Balding editionA new game and two projects will be announced at the Genkidamatsuri event on January 26 2026Minecraft x DBZ DLC is outXenoverse 2's Future Saga Chapter 3 is outFighterZ new balance update is outJump: Gathering announcedGekishin Squadra is outXV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3 LAUNCH TRAILERhttp://youtu.be/FtxSegpS7TIGEKISHIN SQUADRA TOPPOhttp://youtu.be/2sX9nEP_KIUFIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKUhttp://youtu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96SPARKING ZERO DLC 3http://youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBUhttp://youtu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8>Useful links:rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.SDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026DB The Breakers:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>545790626
SoraAre you certain you can trust Recoome?
>>545992487DBS will always be infinitely worse because, no matter how bad DBM is, it will never have any effect on the greater franchise.
>>546003445neither has the super manga to be fair
>>546001537The androids are mechanical in Multiverse, Yamcha even says they need maintenance.
>>546003923I guess they say cyborg but theyre not even supposed to be that, really. Bulma herself says its more of a cellular enhancement thing. The only confirmed inorganic thing in them was their bombs. Thinking the androids are mechanical is a pretty common misconception though so im not gonna blame him for getting that wrong I guess
>>546003923>>546004292yeah he probably went with cyborg cause that's how they're called in french, as i know that happened in a good deal of european translations. Some of them outright have their full names be "C17" or "C18", where the C stands for Cyborg.
>>546004749Tbf the official translation calls them androids despite that not being the correct term either, so I don't think thats much of an excuse. As far as im aware theyre closer to something like a space marine or Captain America than they are robotic. Its weird how obscure that lore is though despite bulma just up and saying it during cell saga
Apparently people are bitching about this new artist.Is he that bad?I do say this render has a couple of issues.
>>546005046The head doesnt look like it fits the body at all, kinda looks more like super goku than daima's art style
>>546005046
>>546005046Nigga has scoliosis. Welcome back Yamamuro!
>>546003553toyobros...
>>546006395what the hell is up with those shoulder muscles
>>546008010>Toyo saved GundamToyofags...
>>546008276BOOM
>>546008874bros, i think we made fun of him too hard....
>>546008874>>546008276You jest, but we know that was just that Anno magic rubbing off on Tomino's child
>>546009115Gundam just always made more money for Bandai than DB on average.
>>546008874>nerfed GODji for the Zoro agenda>get beat by GODndam 2 foldLol get fucked
>>546010251One Piece has never once made more money for Bandai than Gundam. Despite this being one of their best year ever.
>>546005046>>546006395J.C.Staff alumni?
>>546008874>Naruto and Pretty Cure that lowJeez
>>546011038>lowIt's basically a top 10 for an international company, anon.
>>546011186I know but that's a far cry to the usual numbers DB, MSG, and OP gets yearly
>>546011593Yeah but those some of the biggest IPs on the planet by a pretty big margine.You also have to take into account this is just for Bandai so if the franchise's focus isn't on a figurine sales and video games, the main share of their revenue won't appear there.
>>546012413Cute
If you had the opportunity, what would you do with supreme kai of time lore to make it fit in. Assume you can change whatever you want from super lore as long as its relavent but you cant change the og/z lore
>>546012751Just make it so there's one Time Kaioshin per universe and instead of dealing with timelines, they make sure time flowscorrectly and all the universes stay in sync.
>>546013178Without the timeline stuff it kind of removes a lot of their interesting story potential, no?
The Future Trunks arc showed us each timeline has their own copy of the divine heirarchy. So since Chronoa lords over time, she's above Zeno. It's as shrimple as that.Chronoa > Infinite ZenosAlso make it so Chronoa has Time Apprentice Kaioshins, make them all cute girls.
>>546013282Eh, the timeline thing is already limited since their goal is to keep history 'on rails' for no real reason.
>>546013316Chronoa is literally below Beerus in the hierarchy, we literally saw it happen.And she's only U7's time kaioshin, she doesn't lord over anything beyond that.Hell, she doesn't even lord over U7's time, she's just Toki Toki's caretaker who's basically the incarnation of U7's time.
>>546013316Meant for >>546012751Since DBS made the distinction between creator gods and destroyers you can make a Destroyer of time.>>546013564The post asked what you would do if you could change the system freely. I gave a change in the system to my preference.
>>546013564>she's only U7's time kaioshinAw shit, there's more of them?
>>546014115>Aw shit, there's more of them?We never saw another one of them but she's been called U7's Kaioshin of Time a few times after DBS became a thing.
>>546012751Just make it into a recent job title that was created because of time travels done by Trunks and that other universe, make it so Time Rings became the responsibility of the Kaioshin of Time recently as well, and remove the whole "Can erase wrong timelines" bit.
>>546013564>>546014260Which is an evil stupider part given how U6 and 11 people are also hanging out there all the time
>>546013316I wonder why they didn't update the Supreme Kai lore after DBS
>>546014349Which make no sense since DBS said the ONLY way to travel between universes was the angel cubes.
>>546014362They tried a bit but it just made it worse.
>>546014283Xenoverse 3 being about working with Chronoa as she first establish the time patrol would be awesome honestly.It would also justify changing rules around and a lot of other stuff because you can be like 'Oh, Mechikabura is a new threat, he was never a problem before because his thing is being a time demon but Time was never regulated like that before so now he's breaking the law!'.
>Last thread ended with 777 repliesDragon Jackpot.
>>546014798When did they say that?
>>546017972Tummy
bad day at school, huh
>>546017514U6 tournament.
Go drink your juice, champ.
I am upset there are likely some people from the old pisscord that think I am this schizo anon having a meltdown about Dragon Ball. To paint a clear picture, MackOnslaught / KyanosOnslaught here, not me.
>Comes from out of NOWHERE to defend himselfIt would've been better if you said nothing. Now we know it's you.
>>546022248I have no idea who any of you are and I don't care.
>>546017514U6 tournament, but unless the anime words it differently, Champa didn't say it like it's the only way, just that it's one way to do so. Manga also had Shin in U10, and he went there seemingly without any Angels.
>>546022913Shin's Kai Kai can take him to grand zeno's place, so maybe thats just also a way to do it
>>546022442>>546022490Considering there's a narrative that I committed assault over a Dragon Ball Z Abridged joke, I felt compelled to say something. Genuinely I think it's hilarious that this was an obvious plot to drag me out, you guys must have missed me a lot.
>>546023053Yeah, only the Demon Realm is specifically said to be a place you can't teleport in. The way the universes are presented, they all seem to be in the same dimension, side by side, and the Super Dragon Balls spread themselves among U6 and U7, with no mention of dimension opening, so traveling between them by flying from one to the other seems possible, even if it would take a long time for most.
If you want my real account instead of harassing this random, look up Cyraxx.
DONT LOOK UP THAT USERNAME IF YOU DONT WANT TO THROW UP JESUS CHRIST
>>546017514>>546022913I checked out the anime, his wording is the same.
Xenoversebros, what do you think the plot to Future Saga chapter 4 is?
>>546012751>fits inIt already does.Time Kaioshin operate on a greater scale than Kaioshin and Hakaishin, which is why they never interact. The time rings only travel to other, set in stone timelines, where Chronoa deals with time distortions, which if left unchecked destroy history, not create new timelines. It's all focused on Universe 7 because it's a video game about Dragon Ball's main storyline, or because Universe 7 is the one with the most unchecked time travel, and thus the most interest from people seeking to create distortions.
>>546024162He'll turn himself purple-er.
I own Dragon Ball just like I'm going to "ACTUALLY" own Blazblue in a few years. That's why I am spam posting not caring what anyone else thinks. Y'all ain't ready for what the Cure to Republican Bigotry that has plagued the U.S. the past 10 years has in store for you.
some nigga was really born and then grew up to become this demon. Put him out of his misery the moment he posts about going to a con. It would be easy.
>>546024162Goku will show up in the final boss battle and [get in your way] "help" you defeat Super Duper Villain Fu and/or Omega Shenron, and then the final cutscene will be all of them yucking it up in Conton City.The next week they'll announce the next DLC.
>>546024810Better idea. Stalk him on the internet for 5 years straight, I'm sure he'll be mentally stable after that. This is completely rational Dragon Ball fan behavior.
The conversation about people assuming androids are mechanical when they arent has me thinking, what is some other commonly misapplied lore in fanfic/ general conversation? One of the most common I've seen are the assumption that mortal levels are this default part of the setting when they don't seem to be. They seem to have been entirely made up by grand priest for the specific purpose of seeing what universes needed to be culled. Beerus, shin, and (maybe i cant remember exactly) Whis seemed to know about the mortal levels system until the tournament of destroyers
Have no idea what's going on in here; but we should all be super dee duper best friends! Super dee duper!!
>>546024162Fu being what causes that future and being too crazy to see is obviously what's being set up. I hope they don't do that ultra-superhero thing I keep seeing. That would suck
Who cares if the CAC dies? They can just wish us back to life with the dragon balls.
Wait I was gone for an hour give me a QRD what happened
>>546024810>>546024080>>546023710Him?
>>546026318This is what niggas who jerk off to feet look like
>>546025032Mortal Level likely just refers to how useful a given universe is, or how much it has evolved.The Dragon universe has been fairly stagnant, and killing off Freeza probably set their overall development back to a permanent status quo.
>>546025032>The conversation about people assuming androids are mechanical when they arent has me thinking, what is some other commonly misapplied lore in fanfic/ general conversation?Wasn't that shit only brought up in the later Daizenshuus and character guides?Can hardly expect people to infer that based on the series alone.
>>546026732No, its directly said by bulma in cell saga when shes looking at the blueprints for 17 and 18, they were never mechanical
>>546026476I meant more in the sense that mortal levels arent actually something the divine hierarchy knows about in universe aside from el grande padre and zeno, a lot of fan works seem to assume they do for whatever reason
>Here's my knowledge of the Androids>[HEADCANON]
>>546026161I posted my username in the thread and realized immediately after that people are going to use it to harass me for 5 more years unless I change it so I had a mental breakdown. All the posts you see in this thread are me.
The Boss made me exterminate the Cohlatcoe race...all of them, I'm a murderer, not a hero...
>>546026909She says they've been enhanced with "bio-organic components". That means they're not actually mechanical, yeah, but it also doesn't make them completely human or anything.
>>546027216What? For reference im talking about 17 and 18 in particular, all the other androids are actual robots or a cyborg in hero's case. But 17 and 18 are explicitly "enhanced on a cellular level"
>>546025032>what is some other commonly misapplied lore in fanfic/ general conversation?Bulma's family name being 'Brief'.
>>546027625Well yeah, theyre like super soldiers or human+ or however you would call something like that, but cyborg implies something different unless you want to say theyre "bio-cyborgs" or something, which feels wrong but I guess you could say it
>>546026909Plus the fact that 18 gave birth...
>>546027915Krillin does call her a cyborg here, if you want to take that. But Id suppose bulma as the more authoritative source here. Granted shes still an augmented human and you could call that a cyborg, but it is a little weird
>>546025032>"Videl Satan">"Bulma Briefs">If you're dead for longer than a year, you can't be revived>GT's timeskip is 10 years>Gohan is 5 at the start of DBZ >"Teen Gohan">Toriyama was forced to make Goku the protagonist again in the Buu arc>"Optional Comedic Prequel">Pan can't become a Super Saiyan due to diluted genes>You have to undergo intense emotional strife to become a Super Saiyan>Super Saiyan 3 hair is the same on all characters
I just realized Videl is Devil...
>>546028262The dead for longer than a year thing is fanon? Wtf I believed that one. Like yeah I thought it was removed by dende or not on the namek balls so basically irrelavent, but I still thought it was real
>>546028214>Krillin does call her a cyborg here,In Japanese, he calls her a artificial human.
>>546028534People misremember the actual guideline, which is just that large groups of people who have been dead longer than a year would take too much effort to revive.Fukkatsu no F ultimately proved that it doesn't matter how long an individual person is dead for.
>>546028703Why did toriyama ever choose the term artifical human anyways, even back when 19 and 20 were villians artificial human would only apply to one of them. Is it some weird Japanese translation fuckery
>>546029241Jinzouningen is a general term that just literally translates to "Artificial Human".
>King Kai never got revivedTOP KEK!!!
>>546029310Does japan not differentiate between androids/cyborgs/enhanced humans/etc. Seems kind of annoying if youre reading scifi
>>546029767It's kinda like how Android, Cyborg, Mecha and all that shit used to fall under the general term of 'Robot'.
>>546029767Toriyama used cyborg for Tao, but Jinzouningen is mostly a holdover from #8 back in the RRA (who is a human that died and then was 'revived' in some unspecified way). It being a general term also means that the Jinzouningen can have a lot of variety.>#8 - Deceased human>#13, #14, #15, #16 - Fully robotic >#17, #18 - Enhanced humans>#19 - Fully robotic>#20 - Cyborg>Cell - Artificial Lifeform
>>546029923Never seen a story solely refer to a cyborg as a robot unless its a derogatory kind of thing or full on brain in a jar(IE robo cop) but I'll take your word for it
I can assume the reason why gero never gave himself the enhanced human treatment is that his body was too old for it or something. But why make his robot body look exactly like his old man self? Did he think he just looked sophisticated or something. I guess Gero always did have weird tastes going by how the mechanical androids minus 16 all look
>>546030170>Never seen a story solely refer to a cyborg as a robotRobocop, no?
>>546030682Anon I know we're dragonball fans but please read my post again.
Speedlines: The Page>>546028262>>You have to undergo intense emotional strife to become a Super SaiyanThis was completely true in the anime and to a lesser extent implied in the manga. Even Goten needed some emotional strife in the anime I think.>Super Saiyan 3 hair is the same on all charactersIt never was the exact same. Just because it grew to the same length on everyone doesn't make it identical. The bangs, the way it flows, and the hair in the front were all different.
>>546031184Even then, I feel people exaggerate how much strife is needed to get super saiyan, training in the time chamber is hard but some people act like saiyans need to have their firstborn child obliterated in front of them to qualify
>>546031447More strife is better for the drama of the moment. It's really all a feels thing. I can admit every form Cabba got felt incredibly lame and shoved in. Maybe it needed more spectacle or a bit more despair.
>>546031447Emotional strife is just one of the ways to unlock it. Goku unlocked SS2 and SS3 without anyone getting killed in front of him, and Goten got it without any emotional issues to the point he doesn't even remember getting it.
>>546028262>>Pan can't become a Super Saiyan due to diluted genesThis one was always the stupidest explanation because we got this twerp.
>>546032465The Goku Jr. TV Special is unironically the best part of GT.
Something I've noticed myself is treating bulma like this massive plot device who can do absolutely anything they want when theyre actually fairly limited in the main material, like she needed to reverse engineer engines, the scouter, the saiyan armor, and even things like the androids were beyond her father
>>546031184I like the "Old Saiyans" arc. I find the question on morality interesting. The Old Saiyans see literally nothing wrong with killing the loser of a fight. It's a major survival of the fittest thing too.It was neat before Naz became boring,
>>546032742Bulma's father is better than Bulma herself btw but that gets memoryholed>>546032465I'm convinced most people don't forget he exists in the context of GT.
>>546032906>most people don't forgetmost people forget*
>>546032774The idea of their morality is cool, but it's done poorly. For example, Grippi fought a human to get money, but she didn't kill him, she instead just traced an OG joke.
>>546033789Her killing the guy would've been an excellent subversion of the thing that's been done twice in series history.
>>546033789>but she didn't kill him, she instead just traced an OG joke.What did she do?
Consequences have actions
>>546035464What's that weird kamehameha gogeta does at the end? The gallick kamehameha or something?
>>546035974Xeno Vegeta's new move is Atomic Flash, Gogeta was doing an Atomic Kamehameha.
>>546036326I kind of wish these fusion moves were more distinguishable. Big bang kamehameha is its own cool thing but most versions of final kamehameha and that atomic kamehameha just look a bit generic aside from the poses
Playing Uub in S rank, and it's rough to make him work>Frail>S1 is weirdly slow>Loses ki blasts from Cyclone after a while, so you have to keep using S1 even if there's nothing>S2 is mediocre until level 3I've tried to use Build Up to die less, but it feels it doesn't make much of a difference... Maybe I'll have to go Snowball to compete with the other DPS, specially the Gokus, but it feels I have to work much harder for less reward...
>>546037987Switch to Bojack.
>>546035464aren't these both Xeno Gogeta and Vegetto? How are they both there?Also, if the Super Goku and Vegeta in heroes would fuse each with the respective Xeno Goku and Vegeta, would the resulting Gogeta/Vegetto be able to use both god and SS4?
>android 21 thread was deleted againWhy do mods hate her?
>>546028262>nearly all of these are of burger originKill them all
>>546025032>>546040378People don't do it as much, but for ages you'd see Americans call Dragon Ball "Dragonball", and the American movie did not help matters.Actually made it difficult to find DBE because my autistic fixation would have me write it out as "Dragon Ball Evolution", but all torrents listed it as "Dragonball Evolution".
Anyone gona get Sparking on Switch to play with joycons?
This was funny. I'm surprised they never did a joke like this in official material. PRIME Toriyama would've.
>>546039087>no Super Xeno Goku>no Super Xeno Vegeta>no Super Xeno Gogeta>no Super Xeno Vegito>no Gogito>no Baby Vegito Black>no Baby Gogeta Blackall rainy day funds they never used, instead they just killed the game and tried to replace it with a worse one
>>546037987I always wondered if Uub sucked or if Uub players were just braindead>>546039676Jannies are gay
Gekishin devs are so retarded manStar collection takes way too long after lvl4 and there's nothing to play for other than the bonus mission points which are not guaranteed and a rank that doesn't decrease.RIP
>>546040794That's literally what happened in Daima where the fusion bugs got destroyed during the fight.
>>546042340I get the devs wanted everyone to feel special so they'd spend money, but they really should have just copy pasted LoL and Dota 2's rank systems. They are far more engaging, in that you know for a fact when someone belongs in their rank or not, and can play accordingly.
>>546002702Note is pure!
>>546035974>>546036326>Xeno Vegeta's new move is Atomic FlashIt's literally Majin Vegeta's Final Impact with a different name, wtf.
>>546042513Monetization is weird too, 250 to unlock a character, but 350 for a skin? I barely see skins in matches other than the bp ones.Doing the daily mission (play a match twice lmao) after you're done with BP should give you bonus mission points instead of doing nothing.
Thoughts on Future Trunks? Wasted potential desu and bringing him back in Super to just fuck him over like that was not cool. They also made him less metal too.
>>546045307Future trunks was a weird character even in androids/cell. He essentially contributed nothing to the story after his introduction. Could argue he contributes a bit by dying to cell to make vegeta do his thing but being a plot device isnt being a character
>>546045307As a character he’s cool. His bad future doesn’t really make sense if you think about too hard. Like why didn’t they use the Time Chamber to train or why didn’t any of the Z fighters use Baba’s one day revival to help them, can’t they talk to them through king kai?, etc
>>546032465The simple truth is just that they didn't have Pan become a Super Saiyan or else she wouldn't be a damsel in distress anymore and the people who made GT made that very clear in interviews.
>>546047160I know that. I'm asking why western fans would believe a thing so monumentally stupid that was contradicted in the series itself.
>>546047517Just like with everything else>Don't fuck with Dragon Ball fans, we haven't watched the show
>>546040619You have autism
>>546046530The bad future would be instantly solved in like a day by piccolo just asking king kai to contact the namekians to revive him, they can even go train on namek or something to be fully safe
I was hoping a Dragon Ball sequel would be more A Hero's Legacy not Super. It's actually really good.
>>546047836What's with the obsession about reviving the dead to save the future
>>546048856It's just an obvious solution.
>>546048856Obsession? Is it just not the obvious thing to do? Why would everyone be left dead if there was no reason to have them be all dead?
>>546048989It's also the lamest solution. They should save themselves instead of relying on dead people.
>>546048856Reviving the dead became standard procedure to solve problems.Why shouldn't they do it?
>>546042513I believe GS ranks will reset or decay on seasonal basis. In particular, since seasonal rewards are for A-rank, probably everyone will knocked down form S and A ranks to B at most.
>>546049182Okay goku why didnt you stay dead after raditz then? Piccolo and gohan should have handled it themselves
>>546049379It was more waku waku that way.
