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>>546482320Smooth directly on the forehorn.
>>546482320lifted her bangs and kiss her forehead
Any way to speedrun goop for wedges? I assume the current go-to is auto hack and pig?
am i missing something with the gold MC wedges, they dont seem like big improvements over purple
>>546482665Chase IV and III
>>546482714That solo-able?
>>546482798yes, with a Saki or Lady nipple
>>546482864Cool beans, I'll give it a try later. Does anyone have the map with where the first two bosses spawn?
>>546482701gold wedges go up to +10 and also it's supposed to be endgame chase, don't expect a huge difference
>>546482701gold consonance wedgies are very underwhelmingpurple multishot is 25%gold is 27% and maxes at 49%
my retard wife
>>546483039Some are giga worth to max out before anything else, such as Siren Wings Inspo.
>>546482665The spear tech is faster than the pig. Chase is good because it gives money, cunnycoin and globules but if you just need some globule quickly it's better to do Escort.>>546482798It is with several characters but /dna/ often does long hours of Chase grinding. Look out for recruitment posts.>>546482864Lynn is the fastest for soloing since she has the best balance between AoE and single-target damage.
i'm gonna smelt the attack speed halberd so i can zoom faster
I saw a few days ago a build with MC using Lynn dual pistols and the dps was kind of servicable + auto ricochet.Is that build viable with the nipple bow too?
>>546483416weapons in general are viable but not great with mc
>>546482320Wife
>>546483126>but if you just need some globule quickly it's better to do Escort.It's better anyway if you can stomache it, since chase doesn't have a chance of double drops from box. You can get loads of money way faster from maze and you can afk lunocoins, chase is just more fun to do.
>barely played today despite 59 and close to 60>just forgot to alt-tab back into game to continue waves or redo commision.The grind..has gotten to me.
>>546483814it's healthy to take a break from a live service game, it's nice the dailies are literally 5min
>>546483416I don't think the bow's gonna be good with the MC. Her passive proc rate is directly connected to your trigger probability so you can have 100% chance unlike i6 Nifle who has a set probability for triggering her skill but they both have the same 1 second CD on proccing their effects.>>546483643Weapons in general are not very viable but the MC is specifically good for ranged weapons because they proc her passive which is basically a weaker version of i6 Nifle. Her damage gets outscaled pretty hard by lv60 tho.
I think I bugged my Maze, clicking the bonfire does nothing.Tried jumping into the void to reset the character position, tried restarting the run, cleared a run only with battles. Nothing happens.
>>546483758>You can get loads of money way faster from mazeOnly at tr60. Less than 1% of the players are tr60 right now.As long as you need all three, Chase is still the best thing to do but it unironically gives too much globule relative to money and cunnycoin so you quickly reach a point where you don't know what to do with your globules while you still run out of the other two within minutes.
i'm at 58 but i need literally millions of gold to continue in any meaningful way
>>546484382Below tr60 it's shit to solo and coop isn't working too well so that makes it very frustrating to play.
>>546484489I can solo Chase 4 with my Lynn in about 8 minutes and I just hit 58 yesterday but I've done some long hours with /dna/. Even with the terrible connection, it's still much better than grinding solo.
>>546484008Already wish we had a sweep mode.
>>546484741how do you deal with the allahu akbar guy in solo?
>>546484878piss off gachamonkey
I'm finally free
>>546484741I disagree because not everyone can do that and making a mistake at the end can cost you the entire run, wasting all of the time you spent on it. Not to mention if you aren't TR60 yet you really don't care about goop, getting to a high rank should be your priority first.
This shit is still not on steam
>>546484382Case is a trap. You need hard focus on coins or luno coins at any given time. No boost makes it even worse.It's a nice break for something different but will never be as good.
>>546484926gz
>>546484892You mean the minigunner in phase 3? I just kill him. Lynn has the second best single-target damage after Psyche and the second best AoE after Rhythm.
>>546484916cry moar faggot.
>>546485006Maybe not as solo but with a competent team you can average a Chase 4 run in ~5 minutes.
>>546484463Easily farmed with Lynn + randoms.
>>546485124You're the one crying about having to play the game, you fucking subhuman waste of oxygen. Fuck off back to your digital casinos.
>>546484926
>>546485171And you still spend 5 minutes on nothing if the connection decides to take a shit and not let you pick up the rewards at the chest. Happens way too often to be worth it despite my extremely good pc and connection. If they fixed that I'd be playing chase way more though.
>>546484463Chase III and IVabout 110k per 5-8min run on top of about 45 luno coinyou need a lot of luno coin for skill and craftingbut if for whatever reason you need only gold then >>546485175 with drop books works better
>>546485474>if the connection decides to take a shit and not let you pick up the rewards at the chest. Happens way too oftenI probably spent over 10 hours in total grinding Chase with /dna/ and this literally never happened to me.
>>546485507>per 5-8minIf you're with a dedicated group, maybe.Randoms will almost always push that time to 10 to 11 minutes.Excavation not only gives you 1.5 more coins for the same amount of time, but also gives you a chance to catch geniemon.
CHOOSE (1)
>>546485865
>>546485865Sleepy maid, easily
>>546485865Lunotress.
>>546485865snow is the sexist currently, right?
Surely it's smarter to use 4 level III(purple) commission manuals than to use 1 level IV(gold) commission manual, right?
>>546486214someone did the math and iirc purples are the worst value of any of em
>>546485865When are we gonna tame Lulu?
>>546485742Good for you. It happens to me with randoms 1 in 4 games. Though I play on EU so I have to suffer 3rd worlders and even people playing on phones.
>>546486214i turn everything gold
l still need ~22000 of EXP.Each weapon gives 400 + 1240 EXP, so this will gives ~8000 EXP.So I need to forge an additional 12 weapons.Good lord.
>>546486214Green to blue is a big loss.Blue to purple is no loss.Purple to gold is a massive loss.
>>546486373>running chase with randumbsThat's retarded. Solo is faster. Also, should have come to NA. I'm playing on the NA server from the UK.
>>546486290How though? It's simple math. Do 800% of 1, and it's 8. Do 2000% of 1, and it's 20. Now do 800% of 1 x 4 and it's 32. Is the game fucking with actual math or what?Now doing gold gets you sooner investments if you need it, but in the long run it's worse.
>>546486527This makes sense from what I've looked at.
Lisbell please take my yum yum cream
buff lisbel
>need to reach act 28 to be able to afford the last sharpening potionIs that even possible?
>>546485865>CHOOSE (10)
>>546487313Why'd you take easily farmable stuff over yum-yum milk that can only be obtained from here?
>>546487313Bricked.
>>546487426Because buying the Yum-Yum Milk is utterly nonsensical with how many geniemon is thrown at you.
>>546487313>didn't buy yumyum milk for 5* mons
>>546486587idk i probably read wrong
>>546487513yumyum milk is for the BP pet, silly
>>546487313>perfect example of what NOT to buy on these kind of shops
>>546487951And boxie, I have yet to see another one since the guaranteed ones.
>>546485474Hey, at least they fixed the instalose bug they did fix itright?
>>546488334no
>>546488367actually wait i feel like i read a patch note about it
>>546486523Don't forget the wedges.
>>546487313>buys easily farmable shit instead of the actually limited stuffHoly fucking brickGOD. I fucking kneel to your mental retardation.
>>546487313I used to think DNA is the first 'gacha' where no one is incentivized to reroll. I stand corrected.
>>546487313>ZE MILKyou dun goofedbrickedetc.
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOI FINALLY MADE IT BROSI KNEW HODLING WAS THE RIGHT CALLNEVER LET YOUR DREAMS BE MEMES
>>546489063Look at this silly little bugger and all his siblings I'm going to feed to him.
>>546487951Thanks for pointing this out lmao
>>546489063>>546489241Time and place so I can go and kick your ass?
>>546486290>someone did the math and iirc purples are the worst value of any of em>>546486527>Green to blue is a big loss.>Purple to gold is a massive loss.>50% < 37.5%I will never understand how you retards come to these conclusions. >>546486436You are simply retarded.
>>546489241>SIX BoxiesExplode
>>546489063
>>546489063whenever I see actual boxie spawn screens, its consistently this spot (for sewers). proves theory there are "better" spawn locations than others
need a charon that actually uses the horns for combat"mess with the bull you get the horns" ult quote
>>546487513Nah fuck off. Boxies and Goodnight are too rare. I am buying the milk and feeding it to them and future rare mons.
>>546489420this and that one storeroom in fortressthere is also a specific place in sewers where ive gotten shiny equinex twice
>>546489063>>546489241bwo... can you like... leave some boxies for the rest of us?
>>546489241damn you lucky dawg. you are that extra boxie spawns guyyou can ascend all da wae nao
what are the best weapons to use pre-rank 50
>>546482320
>>546489478good info, which store room is it?
>>546489550skill damage scythe and flamethrower
>>546489681
>>546489241wow. 6 boxies and two goodnights. I have yet to see any beyond the guaranteed ones. fml
>>546489063>>546489241I just found another Ardent one...
>>546489821my goodnight is 2* and it's actualy crazy how much reliability it adds to psyche
>>546489794roger that. ty>>546489857what the FUCK?!? (also map cords)
>>546489821Same. Some people should just fucking explode.
>>546489961*la la la* not listening
>>546487313>didn't get all the weapon letters>bought out all the permanently available wedgesBricked.
>>546489998Ikr. for me its always just fuckload of jellomons, even they drop only shit traits
>>546489463>BoxiesSure, I agree.>Goodnight lollmao
I'm not misunderstanding right? If I want to get to TR55 or TR60 without waiting on the daily exp, I need to craft a lot of weapons because the demon wedge collection won't just do it...?
>>546490631You're going to want to do both.Weapons cost a lot more coins to forge than wedges.
>>546490631Unlock all characters from shop. Level them to 60. Then unlock all weapons from shop. Level them to 60. You'll probably hit 60 before you're done with last weapon if you collected any amount of wedges.
I've got my main dps i6'd, which supports to i6 first?
Assuming lynn has all +10 Wedges does she run all Eternity Wedges or does care about a mix of Eternity and Inspo?
>>546490814>Weapons cost a lot more coins to forge than wedges.Yeah but gold wedges take 5 purple wedges each and farming for those can take a while.
What theYou gain EXP from just obtaining new wedge blueprints?Nobody told me that!
does ascending geniemons give trial exp? or just chars and weapons?
you can't reel in, if you use fish as bait on your last fishing attempt
>>546491035There's no point to running Inspo on her. Duration not only reduces the sanity cost per second on her ult but also extends her passive duration.I do think you will want the range Griffin wedge over the duration one once you have 4-5 +10 Eternities tho.
>>546491086>farming for those can take a whileAnon, all wedge farming is AFK farming. Go do something else in the meanwhile.>>546491197Both capturing one of each geniemon and ascending them gives you exp.
>>546491197Yeah but it gives like 50 trial exp per ascension and it doesn't scale with higher ascensions.
>>546482097By your side: Rhythmhttps://x.com/DNAbyss_EN/status/1989272104295072014
>>546491349thankslets say i have normal, ardent, shiny one, do they all give separate instances of trial exp when ascending?
>>546491349>Anon, all wedge farming is AFK farming. Go do something else in the meanwhile.Yes but it's still gonna take a while. If you're looking at speed, it's better to do weapons.
is the duel wedge worth getting?
>try to report bug>keep getting invalid IDUhhh.
>>546491510>If you're looking at speed, it's better to do weapons.Again, it's better to do both. You're going to have wait hours for the weapon mats (and the weapons themselves) to be done forging anyway.
Simply eric.
>>546491484That I'm not sure of, but my gut says yes.
>>546491690Well, duh. Of course you will want to do both but for now, weapons should be your priority if you're gunning for tr60.
>>546490814>>546490838Alright. How many weapons did you guys have in yiur inventory when you hit 55/60?
>>546491868...you just want to "win" this "argument", don't you?You spiritual third-worlders are exhausting.
>>546491870>55Only the free ones. I did have like 4 extra characters though.>60I'm at 58 with 14 characters, 16 weapons and 4 more weapons being crafted right now.
>>546491870I had all characters from shop (+ 1 weekly) at 60, all weapons from shop. Most weapons were ascended to 60 but last few were level 50 something.
>>546491951Go take a break from 4chan anon-kun. It sounds like you need it. We had a civil exchange of thoughts and now you randomly come with this nonsense.
>20 gold mats for a track-shift moduleWhat the fuck lmao still gonna dump then on Vita regardless
>>546491870just hit 60all free characters27 weapons ascended to 5didn't really focus on wedges
>>546492253>We had a civil exchange of thoughtsDid we? All I saw was you trying to push your viewpoint over and over no matter what I had to say.Fucking hell, you even conceded and then went straight back to pushing it afterwards!
>>546492464>say stupid shit>get corrected>AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE YOU JUST WANT TO WIN THE ARGUMENT YOU TURD WORLDER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHere's one final (You) I guess, if this is what you need you mentally ill retard.
I hope we get a cool collab at some point
10 minutes into waging and I'm yearning for LisbelWhen am I strong enough for immortal theater? Just hit 55
Where does the blueprint for gold Wings.Inspo drop? Couldn't find it in the shop, Chase nor Noctonyagger lv 70. Is it in Noctonyagger lv 80?
>>546492747Yes it's in the one you unlock at lvl60
>>546492069>>546492219>>546492420Thanks for the responses. I might just slow down a little bit, knowing that's a lot of shit to do lmao
>>546492693>no counter-argumentI, uh, accept your concession...?
>>546492698YES YES YES PLEASE GIVE ME BRS SHE WOULD LITERALLY BE PERFECT FOR THIS GAME PLEEAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>546492716>When am I strong enough for immortal theater?I decently built my Lis, poorly built my Tabethe, and didn't build my Truffle, and managed to get to Act 3. Don't know if Lis-chan can clear the others Acts though, might need some well built teammates
>>546492815Fuck, my Saiki will remain underpowered for the time beingThanks for the help
nursing handjob from lisbel
>>546493057She belongs to Samael (futa)
>>546492698we are getting snowbreak and nikke collab
>>546492698fornite is 2 rooms down
>>546493045She doesn't use it. Don't brick her with sanity and efficiency
Lynn on my faceHellfire on my hips
damn nips are not playing around..
>>546493403Really? I was following this anon's build
SNOW FEET!!!!!!!
>>546493057Based, fuck the cuck tranny
>>546493437the number of hikkikomoris skyroketed in the past decade and a half due to bad economythey have a lot of free time on their hands
>>546493403You can absolutely use it on her. The sanity and efficiency is good for spamming her skill.
>>546493674>due to bad economyPsh, they're just lazy. Young'uns don't know what's good for them.
>>546493481Change uplift to resolve, swap inspo for another volition. Your other teammates should have 1x serenity and 1x uplift since they both buff Saiki. Why the is Saiki buffing her teammates.
>>546493538wtf why do you want to fuck a futa cuck tranny?
>>546493775Will do, thanks
>>546493746You can, it sure as hell isn't BiS, especially endgame theatre where between I1 and a healing geniemon + supports you're easily staying topped up without efficiency or sanity.Casual content you don't need it either because you should be clearing it way before you're low and out of sanity
>>546493747uuh, man most of the new neets from the last 5 years or so are mostly 40+yo japanese boomers losing their job and being too ashamed to reinstate to society after failing to find a job for a year straight
>>546493437Gacha games are a weapon made by the CCP to destroy Japan via demographic collapse as revenge for the rape of nanking
t-thanks boxie...
>>546494136>tripled your dropYou should reward it with lovey dovey hand holding sex tonight
>>546494101I'm pretty sure the Japanese invented gacha games. The Chinese just improved upon them.
>>546493979>after failing to find a job for a year straight>a yearRookie numbers.
>>546494226boxie doesn't pass the harkness test thoughever...
>>546493979How do they survive? Pay rent, bills, food?
LETSFUCKINGOOOOOOOOOO
>>546494432EXPLODE
>>546494392>can spot chests and other geniemons over a hundred meters in your vicinity, a sign of extreme intelligence >has hands and a mouth for sign language/lip reading >covers it's highly sexual, voluptuous, plump butt (fertile) underneath a box She passed with flying colours
>>546493437Chinese letters are so kino, i wish i wasnt a moron
bwos im so close to 60 now
>>546494831J-Just one more weapon...
>>546494874i got a gold wedge in the oven, just waiting for it to cook
>Here is your new dance emote>It's not even a good one
>>546490631i got to 55 with barely upgrading any weapons and just collecting every wedge and character available
>obtain 20 gleaming katana>while getting only 5 gleaming dual bladeswtf
>>546491027save for fushu ig since she is mandatory
>>546494831i'm right there with you. let's synchronize and get 60 together
>>546494971Let's see what dance moves you consider good, then, tiger.
>>546491484Yes.
why is mediation so fucking laggy?
>>546494424a lot of 40yo+ leech of their parents until they die and the neet becomes homelessthe Japanese lives of appearances and social status lies. They rather shelter a neet son until death than be pointed at as a failure of a parent that kicked their 40yo leech son out because he's too lazy to go to work.
>>546494971i think its top tier and its gonna be as spammed as the sleepy emote
>>546495062bwo i already came...
There's a special place in hell for people that quit Excavation after the geniemon. Good thing you really only need 2 people for it.
>>546495232>a lot of 40yo+ leech of their parents until they die and the neet becomes homelessthis is true even for non-Japanese. people like these always has existed. because these are the kind of people who just rely and leech off everyone around them their whole life thinking they'll always have someone to support them. they don't know anything about life or how life works because they chose a life not participating in society.
>>546495445Check your chat messages RIGHT NOW.
>>546495445i curse these leeches to never ever get at peace
>>546495065>>546495383My sister has better dances moves than, "stand there and jerk my arms up and down"and she fucking sucks complete ass at dancing.
>>546495445AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN
>>546495065NTA, buthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMLWSXvRfQw
>>546495635Oops.Forgot my funny dance image.
>>546495384you piece of fucking shit i leave for 5mins to get some grips and you've already betrayed mei was one ascension away
>>546495757this dance is locked behind 2 RNG boxes and a gacha outfit btw
>>546495445if i reach the geniemon limit in capture missions can i get them in excavation? also can i solo instead of doing coop?
>>546495757I'm now reminded of the legions of Elins doing the dance on the fountain in Crescentia.
>>546495635a silly goofy dance makes a good emote to spam, retard. You cant spam an olimpics dance, what would be the occasion for those?
I just hit 58.... dont leave me bwos.
psa to fellow lisbelbros:scorchmaxxing is good at purple wedges only. gold wedges you have to build her differentdon't invest in more than one scorchdon't invest in more than one volition eitherthank me later
It's funny how after an update the characters start talking again even if you have the voice-over disabled
>>546495886Nope, that's the default one, though the lootbox ones are kino, and could be modded in to replace the default ones>>546495923Cumscentia...Home...
>>546495917You get a personal limit for your account regardless of mission, but if you join a host in coop who hasn't reached the limit you and everyone in the party can also claim their mon.
>>546496094at least give a wedge build sample...
>>546496094Risuberu pitjob...
>>546496094elaborate
>>546496094so use trapped, surge and duel?
>>546493481I mainly built wings inspo for my i6 Berry, but it does make Psyche a lot more comfy to play. You can fire off a lot more of her skills during ult which translates to more damage. If you don't want to use that you can replace it with Duel for bosses, or another volition
>>546491464Someone edit it so when she spins around and faces you it transitions into the new dance emote instead.
riven wedges when
>>546496965fuck off steve
>>546495445Thanks for the leech and get fucked.
>Doing commissions>Everyone seems to be moving 3x faster than me even though I'm utilizing all mobility options in the gameIs it actual cheaters or is there some superspeed setup I'm not aware of?
>>546482320>>546489679>hfw she sees my yumyum cream dispenser...
>>546496094why? did you hit ATK cap or something?
So nifle is incredibly busted? Everyone is running around as nifle
>>546497132Charged polearm dash (wedge from theatre shop) technique with attack speed wedges.
psa to fellow lisbelbros:scorchmaxxing is good at purple wedges only. gold wedges you have to build Gleaming Wedges onlydon't invest in ATKdon't invest in Skill DMG eitherthank me later
>>546497132rhythmfags are uncontested in speed.your polearm dash might not have enough attackspeed and charged attack speed.
>>546497387yes. she's been considered the queen of DPS 1 week ago. she made lynnfags and psychkeks her bitch
Don't falter, keep hammering...
>>546489063>>546489241why do people want a shiny boxy so much anyway? there aren't even 4 useful traits to put on a boxie
guys I did it
>>546497429holy shit it works
>>546497429why is there a giant crosshair on her forehead?
>>546497725PLAP PLAP PLAP THE LUNOSMITH BABA!!!
>>546497743bricked af
>>546497743Good job breh
>>546497429>hfw I run out of yumyum cream
Really wish you could command the ai like stay put at this spot, be passive, be aggressive...
>>546497165>>546498059no one thinks you're funny lolipedo gachacel
546498181>>546465994
i just started i was reading shartddit and someone said somewhere not to brick and delete some pet with some bonus passive thing?? redpill me????
>about to reach TR60>decide to check who to ascend first>no mats at all
>>546497165>>546498059I think this is funny my fellow cunnyGOD.
>>546497743Based
>>546497165>>546498059lol you guys are so funny
I was going to ask what yumyum cream tastes like but realized thats gay as fuck
>>546498371you get a free pet with a Deft trait. it's one of the rarest trait in the game and they give the geniemon to you unlocked so 90% of the playerbase feed it to their pet because at that point in the game, you dont have enough of the materials to level your own pet other than sacrificing your other pets.
>>546498406What's up with Japan's obsession with mustacheless beards?
>>546497743her footfag skill caught me of guard the first time I ever saw it on co-cop ngl
>>546498578hard to give facial expressions to bearded characters
>>546498561Wait it was free? No wonder, I don't remember ever getting it but I just happened to have it.
why the fuck are my ai attacking the eletro lady's ball from her q?
>>546498525
>>546497429I thought this was a legit advice until I saw the wedges...
>>546497743Beautiful
>>546498724it's from a quest with Truffles where you save a random geniemon and apparently whichever geniemon you save will have that trait.
Why isnt there a lock method, im pretty people will accidently feed their wedges with dupes
bros how do you build the ratchet for lisbell?
>>546498828I thought that pet was a blue one.
>>546498928it can be a green one, but the traits have completely different rarity tier lol.
>>546498886This is what I use with both my Lynn and Lis.
>Check thread>Go back to game>Boxie flying around my head
Any way I can make it faster?
>>546499143gold celerity +10
>build celerity>upgrade to +5>see I can build another celerity>try to fuse>can't find the mod>what the fuck>find out it's for ranged weaponsThey need to rename their entire mod system.
What ranged weapon is the best for Daphne for her to be the least useless in her damage while her skill and ult are going?
>>546493217Isnt samael the sword Inanimate objects cant be futa
I think commissions need to be 5-10 times longer and rewards should scale with the increased time.There also needs to be a proper survival mode where you can spend over an hour.
>>546496394>>546497198gleam and glimmers attack bonus from duration is multiplicative, not additive like scorch. its scaling at purple is just trash, but at gold its bis
>>546499616thanks friend
>>546499616So you're saying Gleam & Glimmer and stacking eternity is better than Scorch stacking? I'm gonna need hard proof for this LisGOD.
>>546497165rhythm doesn't know what to do with a penis
Finally, TR60.Image for progression reference.
>>546497743based
>>546499616broofs?
>>546499132thanks bro i'll try it out
>>546500050how do you get 119190xp from main/side quests? i only have ~90k from that
>>546499548i told them this on both surveys
>>546500230NTA, but ascending weapons gives main/side quest xp, kek
>>546500230~900k i mean>>546500309oh...
We need sorties and raids
https://youtu.be/d0EjeKiPbHA?si=AsODmaOMV5G9rjzx&t=5>nyoooo, weapons do no damage, they are just stat sticks!
I'm starting to suspect that Lunoforge outsources to Lunolaze.
>>546500540>?si=
>>546499492The wedge UI is some of the worst UIs in the game. You can't upgrade from it, the sorting options are limited and what sorting options exist are completely fucked.
Are demon wedge commissions bugged? The defence ones don't start
add nikke's advises to this game so i can spend more time with my favorites
is this about what i should expect from tr60 maze runs? i didn't turn on all the modifiers because some of them sounded scary...
>>546501090>5 times the threads compared to pre-TR 60>6.5 times the glaze compared to pre-TR 60The game really only begins at TR 60, huh...
>>546501090you're supposed to turn on most of them
they should add mastery tests you have to do before you can level up
>>546501350you get 1.6-1.9k threads at level 70 maze tho, it's 3x not 5x
>>546501459look at this hussy showing off her shoulders
>>546501459she owes me rimjobs
Lv 70 Hedge sucks.
>>546501381ok so i don't have to do all of them, good. i ignored all the annoying ones that just make enemies tankier but kept the big ticket ones
>>546499939>>546500187it came to me in a dream
i can see the T60 door, im so close to it
why couldnt the game start at 55? the road to 60 is nothing but pain...
>>546501753do i stack duration in my free slots then
Atleast this confirm there's no such a thing as pity
Surely this can be turned into a viable build.
>>546501090go with easy modifiers until you max the skill treesi turn them all on except for atk and the last one for 8.2k per run, lasts about 10-15 mins depending on which buffs and boss i get.
>>546501994Sister, people have gone up to 17 without a golden for characters. Come back when you hit 18 without one.
>13 completionsYou're just baiting for (You)s.
>>546501994>Completions: 13
>>546502008With slide wedges, maybe
>>546502128>i turn them all on except for atk and the last oneyou disable this one?? i figured i'd have to keep it on since it adds +15, but if i can skip it that'd make my runs much comfier. i will try it and report back
Im farming secret letters on exploration level 30, What level do stop?
>>546499616>get Gold Gleam and Glimmers and lots of skill durationgot it. Thanks!
>>546499143gold celerity+10, and that atk speed spear i guess (don't)
>>546502538yeah, it prevents you from having an actual build since everything is randomized. having 2 choices + reroll is better for time.
>>546502562Whenever enemies are no longer dying to three jellyfish pulses.
>>546502293>>546502334I'm just saying I read somewhere that it's pity were at 10 run.
mr goodnight is so disgusting sounding
>>546502859he is sensual my guy
>>546502859>tear tear~>noah noah~
total boxie death
>>546499143Gold celerity makes a huge difference. Going from a 20% wedge to up to 75% is massive.>>546502741Early on there was only speculation because the rate is definitely not a flat 10%. Recently collated data all but proved the pity theory correct but it's not a hard pity. Basically you have an almost zero chance of getting the gold reward in the first few attempts but the rate spikes hard to the point that the 15th is almost guaranteed and going beyond that is extremely shit luck. It works out to slightly higher than 10% on average.
>>546501989Lumino has Eternity (ATK+duration) as well. If you go the Gleam & Glimmer route then that's what you'd want to stack but I'm not that anon and I don't know if what he's saying is true. And duration is still a completely dead stat on Lisbell and basically all Lumino chatacters.
>>546501989what free slots? wedges? 3 eternity 1 scorch 1 volition,4 eternity 1 scorch4 eternity 1 volitiontheyre all basically within a few % of each other, depending on your stat sticks. pick your poison, just dont scorchmaxx or skip glimmerweapon slots? still go skill damage
>>546497742>4 useful traits>drop rate>extra pickup range>autohack>fishing trait
Is there any scenario right now where I can level and wedge out a weapon to the point it actually does damage and can kill shit?That isn't like cheesing shit in a character's kit (like the buzz saws)
No wonder I haven't seen any complaints about the cancerous amount of pointless walking you have to do. Everyone's just been exploiting the spear charge attack. Think they'll nerf it or make it less of a slog to complete missions?
>>546502008No, charged attacks only do damage when you build combo with them. Unless we get some wedge combo in the future that lets us build S combo with a single slide attack, spamming charged attacks is not going to be viable.
>wedges just call em mods lil bro
what's your guys advice on getting more boxies?just visiting every single geniemon spawn on all the maps every day?
>>546503256I swear to God if I see another MORON suggest putting the auto-fishing trait on Boxie I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm.
>>546503380bullet jumping feels very janky compared to warframe i hope that gets fixed
>>546503380I don't think there's a conceivable way to nerf itif they did, they would have to fix movementright now, so much shit just kills your momentum, and you move abysmally slow without it.
>need 20 (tenten) grips to ascend a weapon to 80>Lv 70 commission doesn't even guarantee a purple copyNigger.
>>546503459be lucky, sweep lonza and sewers after reset, then again after 3 days
>>546485865whos the left one again?
>>546503583I will be vindicated when devs allow box bro to double your fish.
>>546503380I do want them to nerf it because I don't want melee to just be a movement tech but only after they improve on the general movement of the game.
You build characters because you're rushing trial rank. I build characters because I don't have enough for expeditions all day. We are not the same.
>>546503583who else would you put it on and what else would you put on boxie instead?
what should i put on my monthly horse
>>546503380>exploiting
>>546503894It's part of the game's progression.You're not special.
>everyone looking for shiny boxies>mfw the first free one I got was shiny
>>546503459Wait until 1.1 when they add more chests to the game.
>>546504134why are you cooming to boxies Rhythm, lock him up
>>546504065If it was an intended thing then other weapons would have similar or better mobility. It's clearly not intended for you to replace the normal movement moveset with a charge attack. The charge attack feels janky and moving around that way the whole time isn't really fun. I'd rather they just end the mission when the objectives are finished or give you a massive movespeed buff when out of combat.
>>546503940Auto-fishing goes on a random throwaway 'mon. Whichever is your favourite aesthetically speaking because when you fish you don't do anything else.For Boxie, it's up to you. You can put Fierce on it for a little bit of extra damage or you can put Chubby on it for faster slide (this is what I'm considering because I still use slide on its own a fair bit even with the movement tech because sliding is the best way to move a tiny amount quickly and I think a better slide would be the best QoL for me right now) but you can put any of the other movement options on it depending on what you want, maybe the dodge CD, that's also pretty good.
>>546503894Randy is so great for expeditions
>>546504134anon, the free ones can't be shinyyou might be missing a free boxie
>>546504306People using a weapon that let then charge forward and whatever means they can to spam that skill is not a new thing that only happen in this game, everyone has used this in a game before and every dev already know about it. The moment you make a weapon with a dash skill you know this will happen and they decided to not put any type of hard lock
why does lonza have so many mechanisms gated behind quirky switches This seems like a lot of work accidents waiting to happen
>first time I ever see a Yale in pubs>he was complete dead weight
>>546504683I had one during first week in an Exploration run.
>>546504683retconning him to a her would fix this
>>546504306>If it was an intended thing then other weapons would have similar or better mobilityDagger is faster but restricted to the floor.
>>546504667Didn't they say something about the Forsaken repurposing the fortress? I only read the story in cbt1 so I don't really remember.
>>546503635Also 90% of melee weapons need them, no joke.
why cant i be mors in normal gameplay
>>546503380Warframe is a speedrunning game, this is a speedrunning game. Theres no exploits, it is intended
>>546502718hmmm, it took me around 17m to get 6.5k with the modifiers you described. what char/build do you use, whats your strategy? do red rooms give more trace pts than blue?
>>546505112just click the switch button bro
>>546505271Except that zorencoptering was removed from Warframe faster than you could type "zorencopter."
>>546505430NTA but I don't believe (You)Watch thiszorenco-ACK!!!
>Click on the forge recipe for celerity to get to the dungeon I need to>0 drops in 10+ runs with 2x dropsHmm...
>>546505576this is where you use the 2000% manual and be done instantly
>>546505576>>546505696>wasting drop boosters on stuff you can AFKI always wonder what it's like to have low IQ
>>546505371huham i blind
>>546505696If he got 0 in 10 runs with 2x, he won't get one in 1 run with 20x.
>>546503940literally anything because fishing is totally divorced from normal gameplay
>>546505312I6 lynn. wanewraith, buzzsaw and pyropig.jump up and press Qmaxed lantern buffsi just take red doors, no idea about points, only spend them on the node before the final bossthe modifiers have levels, up them for more points
>>546505919It's right there
>>546505889>time is infiniteWe know NEET-kun, you don't have to remind us.
>>546506012You can AFK farm at work, granted you aren't some minimum-wage turdie doing manual labour or something.
>>546506201Even then you can use your phone to AFK
>>546505547Im not saying every single thing will be intended, but the long walking sections are there to incentivize faster movement, they are not there to cuck you.
>>546505430Zorencoptering was so fucking powerful they only dared to remove it after they've reworked the entire movement system, removed stamina and added bullet jumps to compensate. Fucking kneel.
>>546505576finding rare drops is like boiling water. If you manual and use manuals it won't ever happen. you need to afk and go blank
>>546506350and then they added void dashing which replaced bullet jumping
>is completely useless
mr fleshlight makes erotic noises
>>546506617she's not completely uselessshe's a nice damage increase for lynn
>>546506503which was too fast so they nerfed it and renamed to void slingfunctionally the same but a little slower
Oh shit I just remembered tr55 is new boss levels I can finally start my sawgun
Btw if you really hate "exploiting" melee weapons to move you could try catching the rabbit pokemon and slapping all the +movement perks on it. It's not anything mindblowing but your basic jump/helix jump do get noticeably longer.
>>546490470I hate you so much.
>>546506814did thisit really shows how much nicer movement could be if they just tweaked the numbers a bit
>>546506814If I do that, I lose boxie loot and I am afraid I can't do that.
>>546503459it's only twice a week and a full sweep is ~30min
>>546506814I'm not one of those retards but suggesting giving up Boxie to fix the movement of the game is retarded.
>>546507005If it eases your hatred, I still haven't found a geniemon with At Ease.
>>546506267the app keeps crashing on phone, it's pretty shit. you can fish tho.
remove boxie from the game and put his looting skills on every other geniemon
>>546507191>>546507337What does boxy do for you if you're just spamming something like capture to open letters
>>546506814Sure Ill give up better loot for worse speed clears
>first they came for the carrier>next they came for the smeeta>finally they came for the boxie
KILL BOXIE BEHEAD BOXIE I HAET THAT FAGGOT WHERE'S MY SHINY
>>546507618>was there to witness it alli'm so powerless, bros...
>>546507442>spamming something like capture to open lettersI use the pig for that already. A movement rabbit does nothing for me.
>>546507393Welcome back, universal vacuum discussion. Man this game is really trying to hit every single note of warframe's growing pains lmao.
>>546507717With this >>546489063 >>546489241 guy, apparently. He hogged all the boxies.
just give us 2 geniemon slots ezif you want to keep it mobile friendly with no extra buttons make it so you only get passive effects from the second one instead of the active abilitygive them cute little animations where they play or fight when you're idle too
>>546507750>warframeWhat's that?
>>546507442suck in potions and loot from far away
>>546507859DNA rip off but with more LGBT and Canadians. Its awful.
geniemon that auto collects nearby things like mushrooms and ore when
>>546507859DNA with worse aesthetics
>>546507834Tap to use first, hold to use second.Hire me, gooks.
Boxies tongue my anus
>the gacha zoomers who seethe at warframe are back
>>546507859DNA but without Lisbell, so its SHIT
>>546507967That should be a trait.
>Play Rhythm with fast shiny rabbit buffs>Feels good but lose 99% of the lootI just can't.
>>546507859A game you'll be hearing a lot about until the devs stop copying every single aspect of it.
>>546501753Solid, I will build with this in mind, thanks!
>>546507750Did DE remove universal vacuum? I distinctly remember having some cat thing back in ~2016 that was collecting all the loot for me in missions but a couple days ago some other anon was acting like Warframe didn't have global/universal auto-loot.
is it worth grinding and ascending and leveling my people as high as i can or should i just msq until i brickwall?
I know there are faster runs out there but I'm happy I finally got under 20 seconds
>>546508269You will have to start max ascending all the characters to go from tr50 to tr55 and you will have to start max ascending weapons and grind for gold wedges to go from tr55 to tr60. For now, just finish the quests.
>>546508269irrelevant when you do it since you'll have to do it anyway
>>546506617Not in bed
>>546508269You have two options.Option one is to play the MSQ, have fun, and wait until more MSQ arrives.Option two is to exhaust everything the game has to offer and level and ascend your characters and weapons to max.Choose wisely.
>>546508459shes def a starfish
Is the Outsider build actually good or just a meme
>>546508726>Option three is to drop 4500 dollars and then never play the game again
>>546508773memedoes ok damage but melee range is a bad joke
>>546508901Shame, I wanted to swing a weapon for a change
>>546505989i have finally cracked the code. thank you for indulging me
>>546508261You could install mods that vacuum loot on any companion since like 2017 or something.
>>546508773It's specifically good for Theatre, pretty meh for everything else. In Echoes it's slow because you don't have mobs to build combo on and in commissions it's slow because you don't have range and no speartech.
>>546508773Katana build is pretty strong. Anemo wedges are OP. Outsider's ult makes sure you're always getting the bonus from resolve.it gets stronger with gold range wedge but dont expect it to farm shit for you. it's only good for boss, overworld and theatre.
JP is the only sovl server..
>>546509225lucky futamc
>>54650832319s is my PB too. no idea how people are getting 17s
>>546509218>it's only good for bossIt's not good for bosses outside of theatre because you have no mobs to build combo on. It does the job but it's not "good."
>>546509452I managed to squeeze in 18s immediately after that but i didnt wanna spam the thread with shit nobody cares aboutI'm stuck using dual daggers because I fucked up and spent my theatre points on the wrong shit so I could probably swing 17 if I didn't have to stick to the groundtheres a lot of little optimizations with plunge attacks and shit that the spear wedges gives you access to
>>546509225Maybe I should have gone there instead of NA...
lobby in asia is kinda dead now hehe. people must be waiting for the chink mmo
>>546509225If you max dupe a character you should be able to dye their default costume.
>>546509724NA is sovless afnothing but afk players
>>546509658enemies are so irrelevantly weak they should lean harder into the musouslop vibe and make every mission have the enemy density of theatre
>>546509147What do you even do with the Glazystal you collect after you light up the entire lantern?
>>546509875crush it up and snort it for trial XP
>>546509658you can do the crouch cancel attack to build combo meter fast with it on top of all the attack speed shit you get from ult and wedges
I am almost done with the tutorial!
>>546509875you get 0 after you're done
>>546509960The tutorial is unironically lvl 60
>>546509960I miss when the numbers were that small
>>546509842they raise the hp depending on how many players are in co op, they should copy more from warframe and keep the same hp but add more enemies
alright, i made it. 133hrs of playtime later, i can finally give my hands a rest.i think from now on i'm just gonna log on for the daily 30x green books and call it a day... i'm tired...
>>546510183congrats!you beat the tutorial!
>>546510183Tired? but Anon, that's when the game begins!
they should make enemies significantly tankier and require weak spot aiming to kill quickly
>>546510148increasing HP isn't the issue.increasing it by the amount they are doing it, is.
>>546510348Why? That just sounds like more tedium.
>>546510348not happening since the game is on mobile tooand mobile players can't aim at all without a controller
>>546509929Okay what's your fastest Echoes kill with Outsider (sub tr60 lv70, maximum 1 gold wedge)? Psyche kills in sub 10s. Guixu Lynn kills in 10-14 seconds. Nifle kills in 20-25 seconds and Lisbell kills in ~30 seconds.
>>546510339the game begins when my wife Fina comes out and not a moment sooner.
They keep introducing new enemies but I still don't know what any of them do.
>>546510348This.
Time for loads of EXP...in 30 minutes, that is
double buttjob from lisbel and truffle
>>546510454Around 25 to 30.
>>546510348if they do something like that, make it so weak point dmg is at least double your crit dmg.
>>546510683So about Lisbell then. That's good enough but not great.
>>546482097Does this mean purples are gonna be craftable? Because the rng for getting one is insane
that really is a big part of why ranged weapons just don't workno headshots and nothing to compensate for their absence
>>546510454Limiting a weapon build to one gold wedge is disingenuous as fuck when it is known that weapons suffer prior to gold wedges due to many of their upgrades going directly from green/blue to gold.
>>546510825That's also i2, not i6
>>546510912yeah + weapon golds are easily farmable you dont have to burn letters on them
>>546510912It's not disingenuous. It's effectiveness vs investment.
>>546510836>he doesn't knowwho's gonna tell him?
>>546510986Yeah, i6 Lis would do better. Probably around 20 seconds.
>>546510494basedBAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>546511054I think that was his point actuallyfarming the multiples you need for golds is hell
>>546511049Yes it is disingenuous. Nearly every weapon wedge blueprint is farmable from a single mission. Character wedges are either weekly locked or eat away at your clue supply.
>>546509225There is a jp server? Fuck
Taking a chill day today.US Defense III Wave 9 Co-op LobbyCan swap to whatever mission (You) need to do.Add UID 3000131166385TR 50 OK1/4
>>546511092rape correction needed
>>546511054Bwo it costs 50k for a gold not 280k
fina's peena
>>546510836probably a spaghetti code relic of the stamina era
i'm finally unbricked
Will we get evolved alts like in warframe and tfd?
What does Mistress Patience's butthole smell llike?
>>546511582I hope so. I want an extra bratty Lisbell.
>>546511582you mean Prime version?
>just got deft>already put gluttonous and range on shiny boxieAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANNA FARM BLOOD BUT THAT HACKING IS CANCER
>>546511619futamc nut
>>546511582That would be horrible with how much more investment characters require here.
>>546510621I wish the wedge equip screen had tabs to separate out those gleaming ones and the tolerance boosting center slot ones
>>546511748TFD solved that by adding an item that lets you transfer all progress. Is very easy.
>>546511748they require less investment and they take less time to obtain
>>546511748But some characters are shit because they are 4*s. Plus can't you just reuse wedges
>>546511582I don't mind, if we can transfer the forma we invest in like in tfd
>>546511582Thanks for reminding me I need to rewatch the story and pay attention this time.
I hate that you can't target farm elemental Griffin wedges.
is there any reason to do higher level captures if I just want geniemon
>"I'll take a step back when I hit 60">will hit trial 62 in a few days >still got a shit load to farm and grind for I'm tired bros... I only want to do dailies and sweep for geniemons until Fina and the Theatre reset but I can't get myself to stop grinding which will lead to a burnout.Someone talk some sense into me
>>546511748Please no, I can't handle another round of literally all my friends going full retard. "They'll release a prime version in 3 years, so investing resources in a base version is a waste" is not a sentence I want to hear even once again.
do i spy sibylle buffs??
>>546512130I don't think so, but why do captures where you can get cucked by lunoloot?
>>546512130rarer geniemons
>>546511748They'll release an alt version in 3 years, so investing resources in a base version is a waste
>>546512190i just made this exact same post earlier. i would suggest developing RSI so you're forced to take a break
>>546512190Stop burning yourself out. Just complete your weekly shit and get your 30 books per day. Leave some grind for Fina to do.
>>546512294
>>546512190>>546512381Self-Impulse Control lv0
my geniemon didn't reset... i thought reset was today...
>>546512190You are the reason devs put timegated shit in.
>>546512494certified oldfag meme
>>546509225Everyone in my coop area is just afk, there's 0 interaction :(
>>546512190Grind away, grindGOD. Playing for 16 hours a day is healthy. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>546512207holy fuck let's go
>>546512747Thanks for the new OP.
game needs open worlds
>>546512190I whaled on skin banner and am taking my time progressing TRTheoretically devs wouldn't want to push customers beyond their own paceThis means getting to TR65 isn't necessary until people like me get close to thereWell.. that's just my hypothesis but you can use it if it helps
>>546506758The only reason void dash was nerfed to void sling was because of mobile crossplay.
>>546512190My friend has a similar problem where he plays until he burns himself out. He is also incapable of playing anything other then live service games.
>>546512975i am tired of every game being enshittified to pander to mobilenigs
>>546512897I disagree. I see an opportunity here to do something different. Instead of 1 big open world with lots of empty space, they can release 2 or 3 densely packed smaller worlds like we currently have. All with different aesthetics and gameplay.
>>546511876if compared to warframe is factual incorrect, a fully build base frame is almost equal power to a prime frame there besides some small stat differences, here you need to intron 6 a character for it be full power which is already a lot of investment (minimum of 120 secret letters if you are lucky), then you still have to spend 2 to 3 modules on it to use all wedges slots
Who do I I6 if I have 900 secret letter clues or do I save for 1.1
>>546513076it really is tilting but thats where they make 80% of their revenue if not more, playing blue protocol really hit home how hard these games are gimped because of mobile
People keep talking about gold weapon wedges but I haven't seen any. Are they all locked behind the lv80 noctoyager tier?
>>546512897nyoI hope they focus on well designed co-op maps that are fun and rewarding
we need spy missions that require stealth and skilled parkour
Should I i2 my Psyche or refrain?How do I make Rhythm more sanity efficient? She burns out in a mere few seconds...
>>546513313psyche goes brrr
>>546513142as long as you can clear act 12 theater just save your resourcesthey might suddenly shill elements you dont have built, which you can make up with a bigger secret clue stash
Picking eu server was a mistake...
>>546513313no we dont also go back to your tranny game faggot
if I really want the scythe is swiping for it retarded? how long until i can get it?
>>546513313they should also be coop only and have mandatory friendship doors
>>546512897Fuck open worlds. pso2 switched to open world and it sucked cock, warframe open world part is the biggest waste of dev resources.
>>546513142Pretty sure only one character maybe Lis is getting added to the shop in 1.1 psyche is just going to weeklies. I hear Lady Nifle is good
>>546512207Sibyllebros are we winning
>>546513142take the sibylle pill she is fun, but if i was you i would save those letters for the 15th to see how the updated will shape those characters
is nifle the most important i6?
>>546512897no
we need chikan missions that require stealth and skilled groping
>>546513313Yes please. The commissions right now are mind-numbingly boring. Make them take longer, actually fun to play and increase the rewards relative to the time increase needed. Gachafaggots need to FUCK OFF.
evens do 20 more runs of maze for money and gold wedgieodds do a billion runs of termination
>A chance for a bigger fish!>Its actually a lot smaller, every, single, time.
>>546513110and how long does it take to grind and build a base frame compared to an i6 character in dna? lets hear it
>>546513675get to it, arnold
>>546512897They need to use the world they created better. There was clearly a lot of effort put into the starting island yet as soon as you finish the tutorial you're basically done aside from going back during geniemon sweeps or fishing.They could have another multi-phase bounty commission take place there. The map is more than large enough for it. Right now the world largely just exists to facilitate the story and that's a horribly inefficient use of dev time. They need to be using every map for missions.
>>546513862This.
>>546512897NO, fuck you
how the hell did he get to the chest so fast
>>546512190swap to afk farm only and play something else, the new inazuma eleven is fun
>>546514064holy kek i've never seen thatget fucked
>>546514064grinded better wedges than you
>>546514064*teleports behind you*
>>546514064>Enemies learned to use polearm speed tech
>>546514064Dev was manually controlling him
>>546514064you are not the only one who can use the scythe movement tech
>>546514064The western entrance sometimes spawns them really close, like right in the doorframe. so all it had to do is jump up.
>>546514064Not so funny when NPCs start using movement tech too is it?
>>546514064If you take a long time in p3, multiple minigunners can spawn at the same time. I imagine you missed the first one spawning and the warning in your webm is for the second one.
>>546511582psyche prime
Love
>>546514064Randy unironically could have saved that run. T0 character confirmed.
>>546514571>lazily shields the objective while you do your stupid anime introBased Randy.
>>546514414It wasn't, it tracks it with the icons, you can see one appear after the spawn message and there wasn't already one.
>>546514414thing is, that was the first notif. It happened around 40s after reaching the chest
Rebecca's poison stinger..
I guess I'll take it
Surely they make it that you can swap servers without starting over...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxtdzgEJCg
I can't believe I actually farmed and unlocked fucking Randy
>>546515371BADASS
>>546515371He's the only one out of the non-weeklies I haven't unlocked and ascended...
>>546515371Basedget that Chad to i6
>>546515371He's the best expedition character in game.
59 to 60 is hell
>>546513757you can farm Void Relics raw, buy it from a special vendor with aya or gacha then with standing, so about 20 to 30 min of relic farming, then we spend about 30 min cracking relics (maybe less if we are group farming to share rewards), then we wait 12h + 72h for the frame to get build in the forge which is whatever as we aren't investing in anything by waiting the timer
>>546514571randGOD!
>>546515641that actually worth doing? been ignoring it. Rewards look like nothing.
>>546515878>being an impressionletngmi
Hol the fuck up. Where do I get more tickets for my wife psyche?
>>546515996you wait for theatre to end and for the letters to go to weekly bosses
>>546515878Sometimes it gives a letter
>get auto fishing>excited>fish>can't sell a bunch of fish because of a bugain't that a monkey paw.
>>546515878free resources and impressions.letters even.
>>546516187uncheck the water bugs (crabs and lobsters)not sure if it's the same for everyone though
>>546515878Once you reach TR60 it's not worth doing except for fun, because it's more enjoyable than running rescues, maze and afking defense over and over. You do risk getting no rewards if you (or your connection if you're playing coop) fuck up.
>>546516134That sucks, ty
>>546516285I can't sell any of these. Not even individually.
>>546516459Expeditions are the mini quest you send your characters to not chase.
so she was bugged
>>546515371he's op at expeditions
>>546516841they buffed her feet stomp
>>546515764Thats not what i experienced when i played warframe years ago, do you swear that if i install it right now i will only spend 30 minuts relic farming and 72 hours for the frame to huild for any of the frames i want? And after that its nothing? Theres no grinding for gear, levels or skills or anything? The people doing hours long farming sessions are getting nothing in return? Theres no long term goals?
>>546516925neither of those reference her E retardbro
>>546516841Where do I refund my Rhythm now?
>>546516841Is she good now?
>>546516841when was this fix pushed? I was doing some testing with her last night and want to know if this came out after
>>546516841Nice I was gonna build her next anyways
>>546516979The question was what the grind is for a base frame, and he got it wrong because that's the grind for a prime frame.
How to find an efficient team for chase?
>>546515764why do they sell frames for 80 dollars and why is there a trading market if all it takes is half an hour? be honest
they should let you merge together a fully uncapped miraculous, ardent and shiny geniemon for a double-shiny geniemon that has a funny little hat and a 5th trait slot
>>546516693Why can't the chinks fix this? How many weeks has it been? Why the fuck are they so slow at fixing the most important issues?
Sibylle-coin status?
>>546502538you can afford this with i6 nipple
>>546515764>question about base frame>void relicsretard>>546516979It really depends on what base frame we're talking about, something like koumei you can genuinely farm in 2-3 hours depending on your luck. Some activities follow the "you either get the part directly or the pity currency that you can spend on the part once you have enough" formula, some don't
they should let me eat geniemon
they need to implement some form of trading cuz the gold wedge farming is insane and will drive casuals away
Futa Sibylle dominating Berry in front of futaMC while she's wearing chasity cage
is there any good guide for this game that isnt some game hopping faggot youtuber?
>>546517332that's actually who i was testing it with, but it still feels bad if you dont get any trigger prob or multishot or skill damage cards. i got 8.1k without it, so i might just save myself the headache
I take back whan i said yesterday, yeah, dna needs better models. Compared to endfield they do look pretty bad
>>546517568Can Berry also be a futa? I wanna see her useless cock bouncing around
they should let me fuck geniemon
>>546503459one sweep on respawn day (every 3 days) is enough. you aint getting any extra outside that. either is spawned or not. past that, you just have to grind out (co)missions with pet events: capture, excavation, termination.
>>546517534gold wedges are for bored poopsockers you don't need them for anything
>>546517534>gold wedge farming will drive casuals awaygold wedges aren't needed for anything thoughever, i cleared up to act 18 in theater before equipping a single gold wedge, more than enough to get everythinggold wedges are for people who want to invent pointless grinds (such as myself)
Is there a difference between ardent and miraculous geniemon?
>>546503583not gonna bother switch porkymans when Im passing by fish spot. bug off
>>546517198>why do they sell frames for 80 dollarsAre you talking about prime access, retard?
>>546517657>disingenuous gachafag strikes again
>>546517924no its just extra expyou get 100 for capturing each variant and 50 per ascension of each variant
>>546508459would melt off your dick. shes probably still virgin
>>546517837>>546517803it's literally the only thing to do in the game
>>546516841>try her on the 250 kill expulsion mission>30% of the group's damage when competing directly with an I3 decked out rebeccaHonestly not bad at all desu
>>546517657some look good, like Truffle, while others look like they never left the alpha stage, like Berenica. Its jarring
>>546518103Play something else if that's literally the only thing left to do.
>>546518103it's your own fault for rushing to an end game that doesn't exist yet its been out for 3 weeks
>>546510348huh? they are already sponges as it is
how to get blueprint for polymer/syringe? are you pose to have or you get from somewhere? Trying to figure out if have to finish story or bugged.
>>546518094Nice, ty
>>546517934Just because you are autistically lazy don't expect others to be too.
>>546516979>>546517128>>546517461i'm comparing the farms that are the most similar to DNA default farm a prime item farm. But each base frame farm is wildly different to compare, some you can do in literally 10 minutes by killing the same boss a couple times and then just wait the 12h +72h to build, while other you need to do a 40 minute quest to get it's parts like limbo theorem, and the we have lavos locked behind a 1 to 2 day standing grind just to begin to farm him
Where do you get weapon gold wedges? Besides consonance ones from the maze shop.
>>546518340they dont have blueprints you just craft them
>>546518098>spoiler>he doesn't knowRebecca pumped and dumped her.
I am Snow I am a dumb slut
do you get psyche for free?
>>546517534trading is cancer and casuals will never reach gold wedges in the first place
>>546518559Probably
>>546517924Color.
>>546518481from what i gather that seems to be the case, but i don't have
>>546518559i don't know
>go to Icelake city plaza to watch people do the funny dance emote>there's only like 10 people thereThe chat always seemed slow to me considering it's supposed to be server-wide (I think), but it really feels the EU server is pretty dead. Unless there's many different layers and I just happened to join a near-empty one.
Base frame farming in Warframe is baby modeGetting Intron 6 for a single character in this game is fucking ASS. You can't share relics in this game so you need to do ~130 runs to get your Intron 6, which is like ~1090 secret letter clues.In warframe, farming for a prime is like 30 mins top.
>>546518816Eu does feel dead I barely get any co-op also nobody is at 60
>>546518525I do knowalso that still wouldnt involve official penor
>>546518958>gachafag pretending they are playing a harder gameCute.
>>546517534Some of them are clearly not intended to be shit you farm immediately. The rare wedges are long-term goals.
>>546518958>In warframe, farming for a prime is like 30 mins top.I dont believe you, when i played it that was not the responses i got, and a lot of the dna content on youtube is made by warframe players and they all seem to agree dna is more of a casual version of warframe.
>>546518981It does explain why the matches I do get coop for are so laggy, if they're having to put people from all over the place together instead of having enough people close to each other to choose from.
>>546518559If you clear the content yes.
play LV 70 defense solo >a comfy time can do 4 to 5 waves semi afk no problemplay LV 70 defense co-op>hell on earth, elites have a billion hp and is a miracle if we can ever go past wave 2like what is this game deal when it comes to coop scaling
>>546518981Only thing worth doing in co-op is excavation and it's ruined by people quitting after the geniemon event. Chase is done 3 times a week and done unless you group of friends to play with.
>>546519164I don't play gachas. I don't spend on video games either.>>546519403>I dont believe you,Okay well you can continue living in la la land I guess?In warframe you can share drops, trade, upgrade drop chances for specific parts, etc. It is a lot easier to farm. Is the game-play side more involved, yes but that is about it.
>>546519514I agree. Wish it was like Warframe. Multiple waves with the bros and randoms until you can't go kill anymore and exit with a fat pool of loot.
>>546485865eggy
>>546518958>Base frame farming in Warframe is baby mode>In warframe, farming for a prime is like 30 mins top.t. Disingenuous nigger that probably still has thousands of relics stored and/or will just tell you to buy everything with the plat that you can earn in 10 seconds whenever you want. 8000 hours btw.
>>546518958>In warframe, farming for a prime is like 30 mins top.This is disingenuous as fuck and you know it nigger. You're omitting so much from the prerequisites to that 30 minute process that I'm not even going to bother typing out. >>546519514Can't exactly scale horde size because of mobile, mob density is a problem on mobile warframe too. So they do the next logical thing and scale the health :^)
>>546485865Me between Lunosmith and Snow.
>>546519595>It is a lot easier to farm. Is the game-play side more involved,No, they say the farm is more casual. I believe the people showing that they play warframe more than the faggy rando on 4chan
i dont know what a track shift module is and at this point im too afraid to ask
>>546485865lunoxplorer for me
futaMC impregnating every luno in icelake Violetta, too
>>546485865Lunogloom
>>546520241That's a whole lot of Luno sex.
>>546520216its a forma from warframeYou use it to put a symbol on your character or weapon's demon wedge slot and if you put a wedge that has the same symbol in that slot it costs half as much tolerance
>>546504482>that lynn way in the backkek
Friendly reminder that anyone who mentions Warframe's "trading" in a positive light is an untrustworthy merchant from the depths of trading chat hell.
>>546520440I only ever used warframe.market
We should be able to trade geniemons
>>546485865My Demon Overlord, Snow.
How do I make Berry good?
Is every geniemon Z just a circle blast with a buff? I think there's room for fun that isnt being capitalized on
>>546519802>Thousands of relics storedYes you retarded monkey. You are proving my point. It is easy to farm whenever since access to relics is easy, i can share the drops with others, i can sell the parts for plat, and just trade for the item I want. It speeds things up massively. Trading aside, just being able to share drops makes this shit 100x faster and being able to boost drop rates with void goo helps.>>546519819You are a retard that got filtered by the game, not my problem.>>546520085It is more casual because you have two afk bots that can farm for you dumb shit skin. Slit your throat. Doesn't mean it is necessarily a shorter farm retarded poor fag.
>>546520440Trading as a universal pity mechanic is good. If I just can't get the blueprint to drop and I'm tired and out of traces, I'll buy it and move on."""""people"""""""" who treat any game with trading as a stock market sim and spend 8 hours a day flipping shit should be hanging in the streets from lamp posts tho
>>546520798>low iq poor fag is upset because he can't game the market
>>546520795You are a lying disingenuous nigger. I know you are, you know you are, everyone who played warframe itt knows you are. Go suck start a shotgun.
realistically, how long until eos?
>>5465211292 seconds ago
game needs a sporty tomboy
THE FINAL HURDLE
>>546521129i expect this game to do really well once its on steam, no one knows about it all the gachaslop faggots left because its not a terrible game
>>546521210Be warned, it's an actual hurdle.
>>546521101>boohoo farming is so hard because im a low functioning autistic manchild with anger issues!!!Cry more spergtard. Maybe people would help you farm if you weren't an undesirable retard
>>546485865the luno on the right when she comes out
game needs women with obscenely large titties
>>546521461agreed they're slacking on the chest sizes
>>546519051And?
>>546521157but i still didnt get my shiny boxie yet...
>>546521206okinawan brownbandaid above the noseshort haircuthot pants
>>546519051Rebecca is futa coded
>You have to painfully farm for 1000+ secret letter clues in boring exploration for Intron 6>Have to do this for each character>This is somehow casual
Lisbell...
>>546521101He's not lying, though. Every syndicate has relic packs available for standing and Teshin has relic packs available for steel essence. No point in wasting time farming for relics specifically on appollo, lua or whatever void missions are supposedly best for non-axi relics.
>>546521814just put kagura in the game
>>546521918>he's never seen chinese or korean gameswho's gonna tell him?
>>546485865i like lunodeliverer.but i don't have a pic of her so, have this snow instead.
>>546522053the point is some retard said this is a "casual" grind when it clearly isnt lmao.
>>546521918the only thing you have to do is take a shower
the daily tasks should give at least 100 clues
>>546521950How big a deal is her i6?
>>546522157you mean 100 books
>>546521950>>546522168It's not good. They need to change her I6 to be more powerful. Something like increasing the damage of her full nuke by 10x, or allowing her to fire as many as she can in 5 seconds after she uses the first one.
Which one is the flamethrower?
>>546521918>have toAppropriate picture because you're a lying fuck.
>>546522239I think instead of increasing the number of books you get they should make the monthly card and the battle pass give you a passive green book effectand make it work on chase
>>546522365So how do I get Intron 6 without farming for 1000 secret clues? And if you say pay for it, you're a faggot.
>>546520795>instant deflection towards poorfags because he is so used to p2w gamesi knew you were a gachafag pretending to be a warframe player. kek
>>546521918>painfully>click continue every now and then while watching a showthey do need to add better ways to actively grind letters though. it makes sense to make it tedious as a barrier, but new characters cant even be farmed with letters since they come out in the theatre, then to weekly bosses, then to letter shop, youre only farming older characters with letters anyway
>>546522424that would be insane value, i'd buy it immediately if it did that
>>546522242while using charge attack, combo is generated at double the speed.rike?
>>546522451You wait a few weeks because the foundation of this games core mechanics are based around the standard gacha model i.e. stamina-gating. Just because they removed the gacha aspect and stamina doesn't mean the grind has changed.
where is the lisbel art how did haggods win so hard
>>546522469You're a poorfag because you're fucking stupid. Castrate yourself.
>>546522107More casual than warframe doesnt mean its casual. I wish you fags would stop looking for anything to get angry about
POV: You've been caught decimating the geniemon population trying to find the ever elusive At Peace and Deft traits
>>546521350>terminally online aggro retard talking about being undesirableo i am laffin>>546521960That's the "omitted prerequisites" part. It takes 30 minutes (if you play the game a lot every day so you always have steel essence and void traces and are MR30+ so your standing caps let you buy a lot of packs and the frame you want to farm is popular enough that you can find radshare parties reasonably fast and you have plat to trade for relics and and and and). All that shit takes time, try guiding a new player through the game for yourself.
>>546522676Wait a few weeks for what exactly? Do you have a brain worm?>>546522485It is painful because its slow.>>546522726>poopsocking for 40 hours is casualvs>selling my excess loot and trading for the thing i want in 10 minutes.
>>546522897You get clues from dailies, events and general drops. You are not supposed to grind them like an autistic retard.
>>546522853>GRRR ITS HARD TO GET THINGS WHEN I JUST STARTED THE GAME SIR!!!>Why cant I get x thing when I barely play?You are stupid.
>>546522451>retardYou do not need to get i6 right now. If you're a petulant child who is going to shit himself in anger if you can not get what you want when you want it then you're still fine because even if you never farm explicitly for clues the game still throws thousands of them at you and you can get six introns, every shop character, every weapon and still have enough clues left over to farm a bunch of gold wedges.
>>546522840POV: she saw your yum-yum cream stash.
>>546521918Games would be better if casuals didn't insist on getting shit that is made for more hardcore players, The game doesnt NEED you to get i6, thats there for people that want to play the game for longer. If you make a game for the most lazy person around you would have no game, no incentives and no progression. Coincidentally the same things the gachafag reviewer wanted
>>546522897you have to poopsock for 40 hours to get enough loot in the first place retardi know you don't like this argument because it destroys your point, but casuals will just spend money if they don't want to play the game
is there a better way to mange teams and who has what equipped hoily shit this is so unintuitive
>another day of warfrags shitting up the thread with their off topic bickering
>>546510348Nah.Make a demon wedge where it turns off auto aim but you get to do extra damage against weak spots.
>>546523118You forgot your lolipedo image, gachaturd
Wheres the AFK spot in this map?
>>546523118>what 10 years of farming does to your brainbtw that will be us in 10 years, assuming the game lives that long
...
>>546512897nyo, the smaller and more compact worlds they've made so far are soulful.
>>546523036See, this is why there's no point in arguing with disingenuous niggers, all you get is.>hurr reductive statementr u stupid???Just shut your bitch ass up
>>546523331old screenshot but it's here, close to the elevator
>>546523118Your ¨ontopic¨ seething is no better. And for the second time, its not off topic to compare dna system to other games. Dna is the topic. Retard
>>546523140>he still has auto-aim turned on
is there anything worse than crafting weapons?
>>546523023>>546523065>the only way to get intron 6 is to either wait for 1k clues to pile up over the course of weeks or to slowly grind for them>meanwhile in warframe I can trade for all my high end gear and forma everything in 1-2 hoursyour concession is accepted.
>>546523342This will be us the moment the first major content drought happens. An idle mind deprived of farming is a scary thing.
>>546482389the devs have caused a plague this shit will never end
>>546523472thanks bwo
>>546523591wtf bros I NEED my skinner box this cant be happening
>>546523449Given the same time investment youd have more gear in warframe compared to this game.cope piggy.
>>546523575>1k>weeksThank you for admitting you haven't even downloaded the game.
The schizo got mad about being completely BTFO so now he's posting CP. It was only a matter of time before it happened.
>>546523238tourist moment>>546523342>10 yearsholy shit thats like 1000 i6 characters >>546523493retard
>>54652334210 years of farming for what? There are 62 frames and take 30 minutes to farm, 31 hours of grinding in 10 years. And they come at basically full power according to >>546513110 so what else is there to do?. Unless anons are being very disingenuous about the grind because they want dna to be an omega casual gacha game with no content
>>546524118...wrong thread?
>>546523954Its faster and more casual to farm in Warframe. Cry more
>>546524217No. Thankfully you missed it. Actual CP was posted.
>>546522853You need one source of relic packs, maybe two if you're unlucky. So much prerequisite grinding...
>>546524217>>546523789it think is just a unrelated schizo mad about the op photo since they mentioned hasan
lots of anons getting v& tonight
>>546524421>>546524217its been happening in a few /vg/ threads dont know why its being posted probably an attempt to fuck over 4chan in some way
>>546524347You are objectively wrong. Concession accepted.
>>546524376>duet night abyss is so popular, even the mods are present in the general>>546524421Anon, why the FUCK would you link the post?
>>546504320Auto-fishing goes on Boxie Bro because I don't want to have to fucking switch my geniemon every time I do fishing, retard. Boxie Bro stays on the default loadout because that's the one that does the open world shit.
>>546523532Ascending weapons, maybe? IDK. I'm crafting too and i hate every second of it.
Which wedge should take blaze place
>>546524526This guy gets it.Normal Boxie Bro gets At Ease, Deft, Frugal. The shiny variant gets an additional Gluttonous.
>>546524608blue volition for more skill damage
>>546524421kys
>>546524608Isn't volition just straight-up better than blaze, even more as you become higher TR and unlock a higher ATK% bonus?
>>546524507>warframe can share relics drops with other players and/trade>DNA, you cant share relic drops, pure rng poopsock grindCry more faggot or better yet kys.
>>546518816i turned coop off because it lags to shit
She looks so much cuter with glasses.
>pizza in the threadWhat did I miss?
>>546525192NERD
>>546525192no
>>546525284We're currently undergoing schizo hours.
How do I farm chase?
Another reason we need survival is that we need a mode that isn't about GOING FAST or KILLING FAST so there's a mode you can play with fun and sovful characters instead of picking one of the meta options to maximize efficiency.
>>546525504You learn the two simple layouts and you do it fast. A group is ideal but even solo it's still efficient enough to be better than regular missions.
>>546525192but can she kill echo bosses in 20 seconds no gold wedge TR55 lv70 blindfold gameplay? if not, she's trash.
>8 weapons left to craft out of the ones in the clue shopWill I make it?
>>546525504Memorize the maps and run directly to the first 2 mini bosses instead of killing stuff to reveal their locations
>>546524923Probably, I havent testet it so far, Once I unlocked this weapon and weekly 80 bosses die in like 15s I stopped caring
>>546525672She make me cum in 10.
>>546525609What layout?
>>546525674each weapon gives 1640xp from obtaining it and ascending it to 60/708*1640=13120you currently have 2025xp2025+13120=15145you will be missing 550xp at the end of it, 1 day of dailies will make up for that
>>546525813There are two layouts for Chase. Normally you'd be expected to destroy those boxes to reveal the elites in phase 1 but you can actually just rush them if you know the layout.
it's just a game. just have fun.
>>546525946Fuck is that how people max account level? I've been spending my clues i6ing characters...
So aside from buying weapons and thoughts, what can you paypig for that gives you progress?
>>546525959How do I make the map this big? I'll never remember this..
>>546526104Yes, introns give next to nothing for EXP. With a new weapon or character, you don't only get more simply by getting them, you also get the ability to uncap them for a lot of EXP. And uncapping gives so much EXP that once you've got everything, you don't even have to uncap half of what you got to get from 60 to 62.
>>546526104introns only give 250xp per dupe, they're terrible if your goal is getting trial rank as soon as possible.refer to this spreadsheet for xp valueshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VzI3_SYUeJjPhDj6sixx8LJcIT4EF7hrWm947kOWuqc
>>546526141you can press M in mission to increase the map size but i don't think i can get this big
>>546526135books if you're an oil prince
>>546526141The image on the right side is the layout where you spawn at the entrance of Glevum Pit at the elevator, left is the other one. You just have to compare the minimap to that image as you move and memorize the route. It's not hard. You don't have to speedrun at the begininng, just take your time understand the map and the route.
>>546526141You don't have to remember the entire map, just remember that if there's no elevator you run south until you end up in a big room that splits west and east, then you just clear each wing.If there's elevator just always take left turns.
>>546526135There are packs of exp pages based on your TR. Starts at level 10. You have to spend paid plumes on them but it refunds the cost. The higher level ones give a nice stack of the gold pages.
>>546525672if they fixed the bug with her e, she would.
>>546525674did you craft the easy gold wedges? much easier EXP than weapons, you only need ~21 weapons or so to hit 60 if you haven't been slacking on geniemons and wedges
>>546526512>>546526378>>546525959Good to know but whats the point of this? You only get to do this 3 times a week anyway.
>>546526937Anon go run it again.
>>546526937you can farm luno coins, normal coins and red goop
>>546525570Survival is about killing fast, retard.
>>546526937It's a break from the boring rescue/defend/maze farming, even if it's less efficient since you can't get double drops.
>>546525570And then you will pick meta to survive harder, retard. You cant escape the meta, you can only ignore it
>>546526936I haven't crafted any wedges and have some parts of the farmable part of the wedgedex that I haven't filled out yet.
>>546504134fuck you
whew those weapon bps dont drop, huh?
>>546527476yeah you should do that right now, do the lv 70 wedge missions
>>546504134explode
Uhhh guys, it's happening again.
>>546528054I got a lot of that yesterday and the day before.
>>546527967>get blueprints>need a whole bunch of lower level wedgesback to grinding
>>546528119Turns out I needed to start the launcher and update the game from there.
>>546527958idk average is lower than characters
>completed the first half the casketNow the real maze grind begins and I am not even 60 to enable the modifiers for extra threads.
>>546528515>>need a whole bunch of lower level wedgesTell me about it. I sold those for globules when I just started playing...
>>546528883I'd really wait until 60 for the modifiers until you start actually grinding maze.
>>546528883You're gonna want to upgrade the entire lantern before doing 60 runs anyway.
>>546527958>got BP after 4 tries>needed to do a total of 16 runs just for the fucking grip of the weapon
i ran out of purple books for the lunacoin missionsnow i have to spend 7 minutes for 30 coins
>>546529412Level up your chars and you can AFK them
>>546529412Or you can do Chase 3 and get 110k coins, 2100 globules and 35 cunnycoin in the same amount of time.
What do I need to craft the gold sanity efficiency wedge?
>>546525192she looks cuter without the helmet.
>>546530345TR 60
>>546530253>do co-op Chase>my bow bugs out and stops firing projectiles>my polearm dash tech bugs out and goes 1/10th as fast as it should>its laggy as fuck despite me having a flawless fiber connection
>>546530253is that soloable...
>>546529069false i did 210% maze run as soon as i reached trial 60 and only had the weekly runs and was easily able to do it with lyn i6.
>>546530426Easily.
go my minions>>546530446>>546530446>>546530446
>>546530421The worst part is when your spinjump breaks and you can only jump in one direction instead of the direction you're aiming at. Which server are you on?
>>546530426It takes 3 or 4 minutes longer to solo vs co-op because you can split up to do multiple objectives at once
>>546530421That's why you don't do co-op Chase unless you know the people you're doing it with are going to do it efficiently.>>546530426Very. Chase 4 is much more difficult to solo but 3 can easily be done with i0 characters and basic purple wedges.
>>546530558>lyn i6
>>546530762if you dont have nipple or lyn i6 why the fuck are you even farming maze, get back to grinding clues
>>546530924>why the fuck are you even farming mazeMoney. You get like 1800 per run at TR 55.Which translates to 180k coins per 8-ish minutes.
>>546517924Technically one has a smaller catch rate by their catch zone being smaller and sometimes allowing an even worse zone.Everything else they are equal, shiny just has one free additional trait slot.>>546518958If you remove OBTAINING relics and FINDING a matched group to crack specifically those 10%, sure you can get your 30 minutes.Otherwise you are looking at a fat 4 hours of casual play without bothering with being as efficient as possible.And base frames having cancer farms you get equinox, citrine, baruuk/hildryn being at least a week of standing and styanax being tied behind WEEKS.
