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HOLY FUCK the Renegade at level 4 is nuts.
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>>546946910
It's the only weapon actually usable at medium-long range. The osprey takes way too long to get a kill in the open unless they are retarded and out of stam/smokes/don't dodge
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so how long until embark implements some sort of karma system because of "player feedback"?
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>>546947107
I don't think that would be a bad thing
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>>546947107
a karma system would be a good solution as long as it doesnt do some retarded shit like alter the matchmaking
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Now that I've gotten the luckiest drop in the entire game, does anyone have informed opinions on the less used guns?

Bettina, Tempest, Vulcano, etc?
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Summit was raging on the game yesterday about the overall balance of the guns and spawns while on Stella. While raging, he 3rd partied two dudes who JUST spawned in late to the raid. He hears someone stomping around, corner peeks and down him, THAT GUY literally spawned in seconds ago and Summit kills him.
How can anyone watch that and think it's okay? If I was a dev and saw that foolishness, i'd VPN into the office computer and change that immediately. How can you not be embarrassed and ashamed? Oh but no, they need to have a 3 week long survey to ask players what they think of the games balance and gameplay and then look at the data for another month before they finally decide to knock off 2 points of damage from the Venator.
Meanwhile they sure were quick as fuck to nerf the lockers, no 3 week long survey and months of data there.
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>>546947541
>bettina
sucks
>tempeste
basically a big smg, good only for pvp but it shreds at close range
>vulcano
best gun in the game out to about 10 feet
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>>546947541
>betina
bad on paper, bad in reality, not even good against arc
>vulcano
i've looted more than i've died to
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>>546947541
They all sucks
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>>546947541
>Bettina
Shit; awkward ARC breakpoints, abysmal ammo economy, dogshit durability burn (-8 durability per mag). Would probably be amazing if the grey guns weren't so strong.
>Tempest
Mid, there's nothing else to it. Kettle but without the carpal tunnel.
>Vulcano
Amazing within 10m.
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so basically, the arc are just drones built by the wealthy humans that left earth over 100 years ago and it's their descendants attempting to take back the planet for themselves after having outgrown orbital habitats? seems to be what everyone has settled on as explanation for what the arc are
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>>546947107
it's indirectly already in, because killers get higher SBMM ratings. i wouldn't mind if they differentiated a little though
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>>546947896
yuh
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You ever just act like a guardian angel ?
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>>546948053
Got murdered for it last time, so never again
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>>546947896
>>546947948
Seems like this whole thing could have been sorted with a phone call
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>>546947107
it better come with an cool outfit on both ends of the karma
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>>546948086
People who kill players who help them are worse than niggers. I've had traitors and backstabbers, but nobody i ever helped with an ARC killed me. Don't let them change you, anon.
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>>546948053
Yes. I take a high vantage point and whenever I see a snitch turn red I snipe it from across the map
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>>546948053
Always. I say "I got you, buddy" and then I ask if they're okay after. I helped a dude being chased by a Rocketeer earlier.
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Average new yorker commute to his work, 2025, colorized
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>>546948086
be the change you want to see in the game
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>>546948053
I love running default skin, finding a random downed player at nightraid, reviving them and just sprinting as they heal (because lingering). Twice now I've had confused heartfelt thanks that fade off in the distance. I'm renaming my tag to Medic as soon as they let me. It's funny as hell.
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>>546948267
Literally me. I ask them if they need meds and give them a little gift if I have extra items since my storage is maxxed out and money is meaningless
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>>546947896
The question is whether or not the rich space humans are pulling the strings, or if the robots did a Skynet.
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>>546948285
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>>546948459
skynet would be the cooler option
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>>546947896
>wealthy humans
>>546948459
>rich space humans

So what you're saying is the arc is caused by space israel?
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POST YOUR SKIN AND YOUR PLAY STYLE
>mostly chill, try to help other raiders but will stomp your nuts if you act weird or try to loot my shit
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i didn't get my items back from an honest to goodness turbo cheater from 1.5 weeks ago... are they successfully getting away with it?
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>>546948607
The angle that Sweden is trying to push is "EVIL RACIST WHITE PEOPLE", but we all know that it's evil racist (((white people)))
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>>546948621
>he bought the troon skin
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>>546948756
the fuck you mean troon skin
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>>546947896
The coolest twist would be a mix of both
Rich humans built a bunch of clankers and automated the process, left and never went back, we're out there getting stomped and they have no clue we still exist
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What other games fall so strongly on their community to make it what it is? This game has brought gamers together better than any multi-player slop in the last 10 years.
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I hope they dont go full autist with the lore so we can have the shredder on the other maps.

Map specific arc is fucking stupid
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>>546948856
You heard me. That's the girly pop skin. The robot voice skin. The light up keyboard with matching striped socks skin.
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>>546948621
friendly player who practices castle doctrine (excuse to kill niggers)
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>>546949138
This might be the best looking outfit in the game
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No one uses the allahu akbar skin. You could establish yourself as the first Al Qaeda to enter topside
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>"team up" with some guy at the last elevator
>start killing some of the 10 drones around us, no real need but free exp while we wait
>the nigger drops me after i turn my back on my impromptu """ally"""
>it's a spic
every fucking time without fail
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>>546949134
you say that like its a bad thing anon
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>>546949134
Eh don't care. Looks good.
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>>546948086
Same here
I saw a guy get chased by hornets near extract on spaceport and helped him
Later i get knocked down by a rocketeer and right as i am about to extract, he shows up and knocks me out. He was a balaclava ryder
Now i shoot those cunts on sight
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>teaming up with randoms during shitskin hours
you'll only make that mistake once
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>>546948893
Looter shooters are basically shooter MMOs. People loved MMOs and love shooters so no brainer. Arc Raiders managed to release in a great state, performance and bugwise. Think about all the other extract games, buggy, shitty performance, janky sounds, janky animations, and all other problems youd expect from EA. Arc releases and it plays so damn smooth, it runs really well, it sounds great, has a cool 80s space retro thing, is casual to attract normies. Plus the PvE is a step above the competition with cool setpiece bosses and shit.
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>>546948621
Avoidant type. Just trying to get some loot and attempting to complete some objectives while trying to make it back alive.
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>>546949789
Pfft I have the same skin (but I use blue) and I play the same way
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>>546949138
>>546949184
>Clean
>Well fitted
>Good for multiple environments
>Vest version good too
>No random bits and baubles and useless shit hanging around
>Every color is incredible

I only wish the helmet was interchangeable, but otherwise yeah. Objectively it's the best, though others offer more unique aesthetics
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>>546949184
>>546950095
I stopped using it because everyone was using it.
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Really hope they add more free battle passes because if they don't the daily quests will be literally useless for people who aren't buying premium passes
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How do I get over the sheer terror of the extraction shooter? Having a secure slot helps but I'm terrified of all human AND robot sounds. I dread encountering a random asshole while trying to extract with a couple of good pieces, I'm scared of losing my good stuff so I never use it
Yes I know this game is way more forgiving than most, I run free loadouts all the time, but I need to get over it somehow
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>>546946748
I think they fixed this, they put a switch on the other side
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>>546950261
This happens with Helldivers 2 but there are ways to farm the credits needed to buy them without paying in that game (it's grindy or cheesy as fuck depending on which route you choose)
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The lack of cosmetics is atrocious, there is barely anything to distinguish yourself with
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>>546950418
Just go in and eat shit, what you fear is the unknown, once you know what it feels like to lose it you realise there is no fear.
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>>546949707
Did they just... code well? I have friends with weak PCs running at clean 1080p 60fps with no major downgrades and the game looks great. Truly a lost art
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>>546950418
> I dread encountering a random asshole while trying to extract with a couple of good pieces,
You just gotta get used to it. I dread extraction too so Im focusing on upgrading my benches so I can craft hatch keys.
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>finally spawn in a good spot at the start of the match on blue gate
>rush breach room
>red glowstick and shock mine blueprint
>both dupes
All it took was 7 matches and ~43 minutes for one single time I'm first to get into breach room
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>>546950418
mainly through exposure. putting yourself through it until you're comfortable with risk and loss
though even with much experience you'll still have raids and situations where everything's on the line and the tension and nerves come creeping in
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>>546948621
>never shoot first, try to be helpful and friendly when possible.
i'm not surprised of the ryder hate but I think it's one of the few cosmetics I think actually look good, but either way I will continue to try and dispel the ryder narrative.
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>>546950797
Did they nerf it? I went into the breach room with a friend and it was all random crap materials + a green weapon
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>>546950929
It's still the only way to reliably (lol) get the augment blueprints afaik
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>>546950925
You get shot at a lot?
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>>546950976
They really need to add some other ways of getting blueprints, like one of the vendors selling a random blueprint daily for a bunch of materials (so you can't just coast on buying them but you still get SOMETHING if you have enough stuff)
Not being able to craft a decent weapons suck ballsack
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>>546950418
In time you'll get over it. Until then just don't use things that you can't replace. Fortunately doing something like running a Ferror IV and one of the other grey weapons upgrade to IV is dirt cheap so it doesn't really matter if you die. Eventually you'll upgrade to using greenshit and not caring if you lose it. Until they re-balance the weapons, there is no reason to use blue or purple shit. Maybe use the blue venator if you want to PvP. Sometime after around level 12 or 15 you'll probably be able to start producing hatch keys. Shove the key up your ass so that you can't lose it. If you find awesome loot then just put it in your ass instead. Then, depending on the overall value of the run, make a judgement call on whether or not you want to consume your hatch key or if you want to risk normal extraction.

Also, on PC, speak up in your mic. We hate the KOSniggers but the majority are still friendly.
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I LOVE THIS
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>>546951010
not really, but I do tend to call out first using my real male human voice so maybe that helps.
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anyone beat a matriarch yet?
seems like you need to unite the whole lobby against it
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It's always niggers with rattlers.
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>mfw I thought I was picking a pretty boy face but it's actually female
>can't change it now
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>>546948621
was playing super conservative sleuthing through mid loot areas for a couple weeks but now half my workshop is upgraded besides weapons, utility & refiner and now itching for some justifiable pvp action

highest tier guns I have is blue shit
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I finally caught up to that fucking bastard surveyor for that quest and I just decided to blow a wolfpack on that fucking bastard. No regrets.
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>get snaphook from battleass
>afraid that something stupid will get me killed when I use it before I can shove it back into my ass.
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>>546951226
raider>customization>appearance

can change any time
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>>546950418
You'll stop caring so much after losing enough kits. Just play more, this is the filtering phase.
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>Quest: IN ONE ROUND_____
FUCK YOU
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>>546951257
surveyors drop to one trigger mine if you catch it while it's got it's antenna out.
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>>546951491
I didn't have a trigger mine, but I had a wolfpack. I finally was in the right place at the right time to finish that fucking quest.
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>>546951489
yo what the fuck is wrong with these shitty ass quests? So vague cant find shit have to look it up online half the time while I'm hiding in a bush. Lose immersion. The worst part of this game.
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>>546951489
they arent as hard as I thought they were, unironically watch a video because quests in this game are gay as fuck
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>>546951407
Welp, I'm retarded. Thanks anon
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Went into trios, never fight people because i play solos, proceed to engage with 24 different people and come out alive and on top, without third partying. Utterly insane. I got nothing for it though. Bluergh.
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Free if anyone wants it
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>freekit
>RS1 banzai charges over open coms
>melee only

Yup. It’s PvP time
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My game's totally bugged out, can't even move without it teleporting me back to the same spot. Has the three little red squares on the side. What do?
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just got my medium gun part BP to go with my venator BP
all I need an an anvil BP and I'm set for life
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>>546952949
Post a steam invite link or a friendcode
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I just left a Storm raid with 20 hp with a Wolfpack recipe, no safety pocket, while be hunted. GOTY
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>>546951992
>>546952987
How do you trade in-game?
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>being sneaky during storm raid
>guy just casually walks past me without noticing me
>drop him with my toro
>he gets on mic calling me a "son of bitch" in broken english
I'm not made for this bros. Killing other players sucks even when it constantly happens to me.
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>>546953112
You invite the other person to the lobby and then drop the item for them and they put in their safe pocket? It's not rocket science
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>>546952987
you wouldn't. I would love you forever. can I trade you some exodus modules or a deadline for it? I have some magnetic accelerators and complex gun parts
IveEmbarked#7625
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>>546953168
>Killing some innocent random guy
You're the monster you think you are
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>>546953168
oh btw I didn't even loot him. I just wanted to feel what it is like to kill.
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>>546953168
The game just has no sport. The TTK makes it too easy to ambush.
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I did spacesport electro storm for both probes and plants in two runs. I drop into the trench and a lady skin gets the drop on me. Says
>hi raider
I don't move and she slinks out from a corner directly behind me. I just dont turn around and we trade
>Yup
>Sure
And she goes on her way. Found her corpse after picking my plans. Hornets got her. Got the Lures and Zipline I needed to extract and a Loot Survivor mk3 off her. I couldn't save her bros... if only she hadn't given up and crawled to extract. Why even use Survivor if you don't?
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is there a difference between using a hornet driver to stun ARCs compared to a showstopper?
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>>546953382
I prefer the hornet driver because it detonates on impact while the showstopper has a fuse, making it way harder to stun rocketeers
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>>546953448
both of them explode on direct impact with an enemy, but i suppose the hornets are more lenient in that regard
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>>546953112
yeah just duo and drop each other whatever you're trading
if you're actually staking something the most secure method is
>both ping that you have the agreed items in inventory
>walk away from each other, both drop the agreed upon items, and then both ping each other's dropped items (verifying the correct item has been dropped)
>circle around and grab the other item, finalizing the trade
i'm sure there's probably still cheeky ways to get scammed like this but this seems to be the best zero-trust solution
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>>546948621
I bring plenty of defibs and go out of my way to help people in peril or show them cool tricks if they're new. Alternatively I hunt bad apples and taunt them with whatever I have queued up on Soundpad.
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>can't put a suppressor on kettle
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>>546953967
Kettle is for boiling water anon
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>>546949184
It's definitely a tryhard outfit a kid would like. Personally I think it looks better without the jacket.
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>leaving control tower
>Can't hear shit because of storm
>Guy ziplines up and lands right in front of me
>Insta blasts me with a shotgun
>Don't even draw my weapon, just say 'HEY HEY HEY' loudly over the mic
>He freezes and stares at me
>Calmly walk past him and use the Zipline down

Sometimes you just gotta act as an authority figure to these young fatherless raiders
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>>546949280
Plenty of people in my region use it and are as obnoxious as possible. I said I go out of my way to help people but I kill these cunts on sight every time.
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>>546954094
I think as a species we should have advanced enough to invent a silent kettle
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what are springs for again? something important right?
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>>546954297
weapon attachments mainly, sometimes guns but they aren't always good.
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>>546954340
Don't slander my boy Torrente
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>>546954258
anon, i...
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i lose most of my best kits to extract camping
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>>546950662
>What's the easiest way to farm hatch keys
Just be on the lookout for high tech items that scrap into sensors. TV remotes and shit often have them. Also some arc loot.
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>>546954258
They did this with vacuum cleaners. Everyone thought that because it was silent, it didn't work, so they went back to loud.
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>>546954574
Bring a key dummy
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>its another duo with venator iv and their rapidfire macro
if there's one thing they need to nerf its this fucking thing i'm so goddamn sick of it
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the amount of quest in this game with the most dogshit awards.
they should be rewarding exp and more blueprints but they keep giving me glowsticks
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>>546952987
thanks again so much man, we killed it out there. it's nice playing with someone who knows what they're doing, and so generous to boot
appreciate you anon, thanks a ton for all the loot. wish you the best of luck
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>>546954780
the amount of venators you get from a good pvp round is definitely too much
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>>546954937
Np, make sure to pay it forward to some other anons here in the future
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what you niggas doin with arc powercells? been stockin up for shield recharges
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>>546955056
I think i've sold most of mine. I keep a small handful on hand for rechargers.
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>>546955056
I don't hold onto anything I can buy from traders, so I sell all ammo/arc cells/shield rechargers. Early on you should definitely be crafting them to save money, but once you get max stash size you can stop caring about money
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>>546955160
yeah not at that part of the game yet. stash is 254 atm.
just kinda pressing through these quests at the moment and yeah eventually money is gonna be for recharges later.

i guess what can arc alloys be for later?
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>>546955318
>arc alloy
Turned into arc circuitry to make advanced electronics for hatch keys/power rods or scrapped into metal to make mechanical components and more guns. The expedition also needs like 80 arc alloy
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>>546955312
This will feed the whole of speranza for a season
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>>546955415
Arc circuitry is for medium shields/power rods, not advanced electronics, my mistake
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>>546955532
>>546955415
yeah already kinda dumped 80 into that phase so now im hoarding them for some reason.
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Doing Stella quests with free kits is the way.
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>>546955671
There's only 3 quests, so it barely matters
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>>546955318
I would be ecstatic to see the DPS of grey weapons vs shields reduced by something like 50%
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>>546955705
everyone scrounges med but then the real niggas camp the fuckin assembly area because of those pitch black areas
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>>546955767
I rush sec in lobby and then leave through assembly hatch
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>>546954940
i break mine down, i am not using cheatgun
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where does a nigga get some fuckin lightbulbs
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>>546955974
the lightbulb room
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I've gotten 3 blueprints from killing these fuckers. Not worth it at all
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>>546955974
Have you tried finding lightbulbs
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>spawn into dam
>seconds after spawning. I don't have shit yet
>get my entire fucking shield vaporized by a single hit from a ferro
>get downed before I can even realize which corner of the map I'm on
I would not shed a single tear to see the ferro and all grey weapons completely fucking gutted.
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>>546955974
power gen on dam
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>>546954672
i had one even, which makes it worse
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man, audio is seriously broken
a duo literally runs up on me indoors and they make no noise whatsoever to the point where i think the random shuffling i hear RIGHT NEXT TO ME is my teammate because there was absolutely no noise prior to the THUMP THUD THUNK next to me
seriously what the fuck
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Where the hell do I find turret enemies
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>>546955312
feeling pretty seedy
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>playing with duo
>we are doing that gay quest on spaceport that sends you across the map
>finish it, hang near the control tower slapping arc with the last few minutes
>loot a bastion near the hatch
>60 seconds left
>go to open hatch
>huh where did my key go
>>for whatever reason I left my key on one of the bastion parts when I was looting it
>mad scramble digging through the bastion wreck for my key
>get out with 10 seconds to spare
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>>546956342
The seed vault
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If i use a snitch scanner indoors will the wasps spawn on the roof? More specifically the control tower on Spaceport. Can I just throw the scanner in the elevator shaft to fuck over the snipers on the roof?
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>server randomly crashes/stops working for me
>I rubberband back and forth for 10 minutes trying to make it to a hatch
>I can't move from 1 single spot without teleporting back to it
>ARC comes and kills me because I can't fight back or run

fuck this trash, going to bed
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>>546956038
~7 wolfpacks for a blueprint is actually kind of decent. maybe
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The fuck happened here?
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>>546956640
yea' motha's dildos slipped out
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>>546956640
My bad my dildos slipped out
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whats the best place to find epic gun blueprints besides the bettina? i'd love a tempest or vulcano. key rooms?
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>>546955312
>>546956391
Do NOT show Celeste.
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>>546956773
key room on night raids specifically
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>>546956640
Can someone draw Queen-tan dropping her purse that spills out probes (dildos)?
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>>546956745
>not named Anon's mom
You had the chance.
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Anyone praising this game's broken audio is an absolute dumbfuck
other raiders are completely silent 70% of the time
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>>546957114
near instant TTK with grey weapons btw.
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>>546957114
>>546956302
it wasnt like this at launch, it's genuinely unplayable if you try to rely on audio whatsoever
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>did a lot of damage to the queen but can't kill her because joined mid match
>take a few more hullcracker shots before I got to the hatch
>she sonic speeds to my position and traps me under rubble while she melts me with her lava beam
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>>546957114
Sound propagation is all over the place, some places I can basically track them through floors like Daredevil and other times I see one just appear out of nowhere from a doorway.
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If there are more than one raider attacking the queen and it gets killed, do all the raiders that attacked it get the achievement for killing the queen? Or just whoever got the last shot?
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>>546957114
i was crouch walking like 2 rooms away and a guy called me out. meanwhile a dude sprints behind me at 100 mph and he's the wind itself
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>>546957404
last shot, unless you're in a party
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>>546957114
Yeah its really frustrating because like the other anon said the TTK is so low that if they get the drop on you, you're pretty muc has good as dead, but you also can't rely on sound cues at all because most of the times people are just completely silent. Yesterday i was on top of the trench towers with my friends shooting a squad, when another squad walked up from the other side, placed a zipline, climbed up and walked right behind us and none of us heard anything at all, it's really bad
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>>546957335
How many hullcracker shots to kill a queen anyway? My friends and i are gearing up to try killing her, we're thinking about bringing a couple of wolfpacks for the rocketeer, 3 hullcrackers and some deadlines to deal with her
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Ran into my first "betrayal".
>Duos, guys are holstered and claim friendly at extract.
>They start tossing grenades soon as the doors open.
>Down me but both chase my friend away.
>Just extract while I'm sitting there.
>Friend gets struck by lightning.
>They got nothing even if they checked him because all he had was grey shit and grey material loot.
And yeah, I can indeed confirm: Anyone with the Ryder balaclava is wee sneaky cunt.
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Any Voyagerbros here?
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>pisses off a million drones
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>>546958140
fuuuuck testing annex and the north complex elevator. rat infested shitholes.
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>>546953967
have you ever heard the kettle at distance?
exactly
it's the second quietest gun after hairpin
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>group of people at extract getting gunned down by rocketeer
>one goes down
>extract opens downed guy and me drop in
>I execute him and he can only mutter a few words to the other
>I start extracting and tell the others to get in here quick
>nobody notices
I didn't even get to loot the guy but with the brief glimpse I saw he had some good shit
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>its another camper at the extract episode
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Looking for comp 2/vertgrip 2 bps, anything else I don't have will be considered
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>Got a Silencer II blueprint from the Trials thing after a match
>Torrent blueprint in the next match on the first crate I search
Is Torrent any good? I think I've seen a fair number of clips of people using it. It reminds me of the LMG class in SWBF2. AKA my First Order waifu.
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The final quest is searching Armored trucks in Blue Point?
There's no quests to take out the bigger ARC?
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>>546958794
nup, missions in this game are buns
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>>546958762
its good for memes fighting in tight corridors or turning corners point blank into a wall of lead but its not particularly good in general due to horrible range and enormous ammo consumption
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>>546958868
I was at least expecting some big cutscene for finishing the last quest but no. What the fuck?
Why did they give shitty cutscenes at the most arbitrary times?
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>>546958762
it's ability to squad wipe in a single mag is unparalleled.
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>>546958727
>swastika
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>>546958948
>>546958868
because the quests arent done, still buns though
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>>546959053
vulcano
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>>546959161
trace the swastika without reenacting this
go ahead
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>>546946748
>No previous

Previous thread
>>546898063
>>546898063
>>546898063


please no more incompetent OPs, how is something always missing. It's literally a copy & paste OP. It rarely changes
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Do quests give you any blueprints?
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>>546955974
Blue gate tunnels on the East side.
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>>546959407
Yes, the lure nade is one of them and even the hullcracker.
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>>546959407
yes but the only notable one is for hullcracker ammo
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>>546957761
Fuck the pve in this game. Too many faggot rat niggers. Don't ever bring anything good. I think the rats are going to kill the pve side of things.

https://streamable.com/mk6h8f
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>>546958727
Is that medium mag 2? If so I'm willing to trade for that and the stock. I have
Venator, Jupiter, Anvil, Comp3, Jolt Mine, Lightgun Parts, Osprey, and Torrente
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>walking around
>hear someone shout don't shoot a bit far in the distance
>ignore it and keep walking, they're probably talking to someone else
>keeps happening every 1-2 minutes
>ignore it again
>gets shot by a ferro
bros is this my fault?
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>Ferro IV
My beloved
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>Some guy accidentally pulls three wasps on himself
>Pop all three off and revive him, let him loot them and go on my way
Honestly the coop feels better in this than most other dedicated coop games. Its the risk that someone is a dick that makes behaving well feel good.
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>>546958794
Is there a way to know how many more quest I have left?

I'm on a new type of plant and just finished library rebuild.
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>People are planning Expeditions to exploit with their friends
Apparently, people are talking about giving duplicate blueprints to a friend who isn't doing expedition so that once they wipe their account they can just ask for the blueprints back.

Thoughts? I think its kinda lame and would be funny if they made it so whoever does expedition cannot pick up "found" blueprints that were brought back into a game.
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>>546959621
It's medium mag 2, yes. I'll take the comp3 bp in exchange if you post a lobby link or a friendcode
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>go to space port on the locked launch tower event
>down someone
"DUDE THIS IS A PVE EVENT WERE ALL FRIENDS REVIVE ME DUDE"
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>>546959687
if someone is giving away their position and you don't respond its gonna raise suspicion, but whoever it was would probably have shot you anyways
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Are we getting new skins weekly?
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>>546960167
We'll be lucky to be getting new skins monthly
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Any secrets for a new player who wants to power through the Merits as fast as possible? Playing today for the first time I've gotten 630 so far just messing around but I would like to get it done before the 20 days are up.
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does anyone have the barricade bp? can you get it from a quest?
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I hid in a corner playing Super Auto Pets until 10:00 at Stella and looted 1 (one) untouched corpse to completely fill my freekit inventory. Got a lightbulb too. Everyone fucking dies or raider hatches long before 5:00.
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>>546960434
The longer you survive, the more xp you get. Try to stay in raid for as long as possible open up as many containers as you can for search xp. Killing arc isn't too bad an option either, but you should probably bring a suppressor if you are doing it often
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WHO ALL READY FOR THEIR VOYAGE
TO THE RUST BELT
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>>546960167
we did so far
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>>546960434
loot everything you come across, kill every small arc you come across, do your quests!
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>>546959862
How do I post a lobby link?
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Even fully upgraded the rattler is a hysterical joke
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>>546960587
What does it even do?
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>>546960514
>>546960752
Ok thanks anons, I've been exiting pretty quick so ill hang around instead
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Kettle IV is the way.
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>>546959953
>do launch tower event with 1 guy whos using the female voice changer
>he kills me with his torrente IV as I was about to close the exfil doors
I should have known better
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>>546960858
Makes you go through the fun process of finding blueprints again
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>>546960775
for the life of me i can't get it to work. The ARs in this game are so bad.
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>>546960945
w/ full auto turbo triggers on my controller, yes
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>>546961007
>The ARs in this game are so bad.
Its helldivers 2 all over again, why can't devs just make guns behave as they do irl
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>>546959815
You have only a few left
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>>546960978
I genuinely don’t know how I managed to grab over 40 blueprints while leveling.
since being 75 I ain’t getting shit at all.
I don’t even remember where I got all of them.
I do use like 20 keys though
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>>546961007
Tempest is very very strong.
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>>546961123
and by 40 I mean 40 unique ones.
plus countless dupes
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>>546960775
Still better than the agreggio
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>>546960769
Shift tab while in game, click friends, click on your profile picture, it will open your profile and there will be a link that says, "join game." Right click it, delete the last set of numbers after the final slash to hide your profile, and then post it here. Sometimes there is a bug that prevents people from being able to see the button like I have right now
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>keep hearing "rust belt"
>look up where the game takes place
>italy
i thought rust best was just an american thing
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>>546961240
Arpeggio upgraded slaps
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>it's a venator iv duo camping the only extraction point episode
good fucking lord i am nearing the end of my rope with this gun and these subhuman browns
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>>546961424
This game is best played solo. No discord niggers, you can hear everything in proximity chat
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>>546961193
never seen one
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>>546961240
Arpeggio is good though
people only say its shit because they use it in close range, die, and then say "wow fucking arpeggio got me killed"
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>>546961424
throw a bunch of snitch scanners
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It's me, the guy who brings 30 door blockers and blocks every random door for no reason
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>>546961296
Yeah I don't have the button either.
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>>546961736
Friendcode it is, post it and I'll wait for ya
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>>546960434
>1 merit per 100 XP
whenever matriarch event is up just dump a ton of heavy ammo into her, use a ferro and aim for the "knees".
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>>546961420
it takes too much investment to be not-dogshit. How much investment does a kettle take to get it's ROF? none?
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>>546961948
Kettle without upgrades is also dogshit, the reload takes an entire business day.
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>>546961492
yeah having friends is terrible
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im level 50 now, what are the stuff that i should be looting and keeping for the "end game", i have all my benches upgraded except my utility.
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>>546962017
Reload speed means so little. 90% of fights are determined by first mag kills.
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>>546961542
its also bad at long range too
better off with a renegade or even a ferro
burst fire weapons are always the ugly child
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>>546960501
the optimal way to play the game seems to be to simply wait until the round hits 17:00 and just loot whatever you want for free without worrying about getting shot in the ass by RDMing friggers.
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>>546961768
Linstead#0350
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Weapon part blueprints should be quest rewards, this is moronic
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>>546948724
I'm pretty sure the angle is just rich people. There are enough rich people in the world to avoid making it just whites. Rich people of any nation have more in common with each other than they do with the poor of their own nations, so it makes sense that they would decide to cooperate and just... fuck off. The theory makes sense without jews or whites, and adding it makes the theory less believable rather than more.
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>>546962214
I'm hearing a turbo venator clearing the entire lobby from below my stairs before dying to the 6th guy with a ferro. Still only 19:00 and 7 people have died in Cafeteria. Pretty tense.
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>>546962132
if you're going to prestige it doesn't really matter
otherwise the only thing that really matters is blueprints
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>>546961542
It sucks at all ranges, it does no damage and is inaccurate
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>>546962232
Thanks, cya around
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>>546961542
I think its better against arc than players. I fought guys at close and far range and I just couldnt knock them in one mag before needing to switch to anvil
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I cannot find the comm's terminal for this quest at the Olive Grove for the life of me
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silencer II bp lets go guys
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>>546962507
on the road near the edge of the map
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>>546962507
Go a little further away from the village, its near the road, i think on a sheetmetal platform. Agreed its retarded
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>>546962596
>>546962605
4th time's the charm
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>>546962132
anything that upgrades/repairs weapons (mechanical components)
if you're doing expedition, pay as you go don't do it all on the last day. You get extra bonuses for how much is still in your stash when its fully wiped
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>>546962671
I just wish they would say the threshold for the stash value
it sucks not knowing
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So do console players get that aimbot thing where you just hold aim and it zeroes in on your opponent?
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trying to get these leaper, bastion, bombardier and surveyor parts is hell solo because every rat fuck comes out as soon as they hear the hullcracker go off
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>>546962945
become rat
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>>546962507
play the game with the interactive map website. These quests are not worth respecting
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>>546963114
i unironically got all my sentinel drivers from killing people.
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>>546962945
lol i got all those parts with a ferro, people even helped sometimes. lmao at sweaties trying to minmax everything
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>>546962945
do it during matriarch or hidden bunker, matriarch is the best though because right now there's a trial for dealing damage to it
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>>546962945
Don't use the hullcracker. It gives rats too much time to respond. As far as I can tell, the simplest way to kill these medium sized ARC is:
>Rocketeer
Use wolfpacks or roll the dice on those electrified husk events to to get your rocketeer drivers
>Leapers
use wolfpacks. Stack a bunch of synthesized fuel/wasp drivers in one place, bait the leaper to walk over it, and then shoot the explosion pile.
>bastion/bombadier
walk up to them with the help of a showstopper/hornet driver/cloak and then plant a deadline on them.

This should kill the ARC before rats have much of a chance to respond. Smoke/barricades can help give you some breathing room to loot. Hopefully you can shove the important bits up your ass before the rats get you.
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>>546963546
meant to include an "or" after "wolfpacks" in the leaper section. I guess you can stun/deadline them too, but I'd be concerned about it waking up and then tackling you with the mine.
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Is this game comfy?
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>kill surveyor in hopes of bp
>get one
I thought they fixed it...
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>>546963705
Nope. You get swarmed by pve robots while some loser with no job sits quietly for 20 mins to kill you after you've killed all the enemies and bosses.
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>>546963774
Betty is such a slut
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>>546963705
solo is comfy and friendly 90% of the time. With 10% of it being ass clenching sweaty/frightening. (for me at least, players may vary)
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>>546963705
>bring bolt action and pistol
>find a random spot to snipe from
>never loot kills, just ruin people's matches
Very comfy
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>>546963705
Comfy if you have a mic
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>>546963850
I find that a nigger suckerpunches me every 5-6 hours or so. Always a rat with a freekit.
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>>546963870
kid who distracts everyone else in class - core
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>>546963870
So you're the asshole of spaceport
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>>546963870
Lol I do this too
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>>546963870
oh shit I know you and hate you
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when i snipe from a random roof, i am pkk'ing
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Changes I'd like to see.
>Shields doubled in effectiveness across the board, with blue receiving additional resistance vs shotguns/light bullets, and pink vs shotguns/light/medium.
>freekit weapon pool restricted to rattler I and hairpin I.
>ARC presence increased by at least 300%, and they're more sensitive to investigating noise
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>>546964301
Changes I'd like to see
>you killing yourself
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>I got the venator recipe
>Crafted and upgraded them
>I'm too afraid of using them because i'm a faggot
>Venator will get nerfed soon
I hate my loot fear, i have tons of mats and guns because of that.
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>>546964301
All stupid suggestions
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So security locker isn't worth going for right? Mobility then? I only put 12 in survival
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Yeah im really not a fan of pvp in this game
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Embark needs to add a more or a map that has very good loot but forbid free kits.
The new map is a COD TDM fest full of free kits playing like rats, its simply not worth it to use your full gear in that map because the chances of you getting ambushed or third partied by a free kit kamikaze is extremely high.
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>>546964562
its still incredibly worth it
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>>546964620
add a mode or a map ****
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>>546964620
they could just have a common event that prevents free kits
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>>546964620
free kits shouldnt have heals and the problem solves itself
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Not only was I able to get the quest done with the comm's terminal but I got the loot vault in the old fort as well.
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>>546964383
I'd say that with the state of the current meta, gear fear is very much justified. Why risk losing a valuable weapon and possibly shield if you could get smoked by a freeshitter with a Stitcher and green shield? I'm gonna keep hoarding blues/epics until they address the lack of proper progression in this game.
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>>546964620
The solution is simple, you remove free kits entirely. Low tier gear is cheap to craft so free kits really have no reason to exist.
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>>546964702
Kill yourself.
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why are people crying about freekits. you know you can use them too. retards lmao
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>>546964702
sex with ARCs
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Just give free kits a fucking cooldown like SCAVs fuck this isn't hard you don't to sit there and GAME DEV solutions just copy existing shit. 25m hard CD after doing a FK run. Force people to actually use their gear.
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>>546965001
go back to tarkov
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>>546964620
free loadouts are not the problem
the power of grey and green gear is
if free loadouts were banned people would simply resort to just using cheap weapons, it would change nothing
blue and purple gear needs buffs while grey and green gear needs nerfs
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>>546965018
Fuck your mother.

>>546965143
Yes!
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>>546965215
Never played that trash. Not an argument.
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>>546965150
60 minutes would be way better.
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>>546965086
And it kills the whole point of the game which is looting and using the better gear.
Why use better gear if you can pretty much kill full geared players just as easily? You can pretty much get a stitcher and kill blue geared players easily if you are the first to shot.
Blue/pink geared players advantage over freekit/green geared players are too small to be worth it using them.
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>>546965414
good gear is a huge advantage
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>>546965348
>>546965414
Ignore that retard, anon. He's been shitting up the threads constantly with his edgelord teen takes.
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>>546964031
Guilty as charged
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>>546965227
It absolutely would change something because rats are cowards and even the thought of losing cheap gear scares them, that's why they roll free kits even though it is sub optimal rat behavior.

Higher tier gear still needs buffs but that isn't the reason free kits behave the way they do. Even if heavy shield was 3 times stronger a rat with a ferro 1 will try because he has literally nothing to lose.
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>>546965468
Not in game that is designed around ambushing. I can pretty much destroy any blue geared player even if he has venator IV if play like a rat.
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>>546965265
>>546964702
I'm tired of anime aesthetic
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>>546964795
holy shit you people are so fucking retarded at gamedev
the problem with free kit is that it's shit at everything except running towards the closest fucker and trying to kill them
this fixes fucking nothing because it doesn't nerf freekits in a direct gunfight against a regular player
all this would do is make it worse, because now freekits instead of maybe having some heals for you once you squash them have fucking nothing, the amount of healing in a round goes down while the possible damage remains the same

if your proposed change to freekits doesn't make them worse in a gunfight it's not fixing shit
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Free anvil bp, post steam join link or friendcode
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where the fuck are the augment bps, I haven't found a single one
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>>546965735
Blue gate breach room by the yellow markers, I can only spawn in at the right spot and get there fast enough once an hour to even hit it
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free kits being strong in pvp + third person makes it not worth running full gear in most maps.
Free kits can melt blue geared players way too easy and the fact the game is a THIRD PERSON shooter makes peeking and camping too strong, which makes the problem even worse.
Any free kit can kill blue geared players if they hide behind a wall/cover waiting for a player to appear because they can see people coming from behind the wall which is a MASSIVE advantage.
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>>546965587
The best way to frame the problem imo is in terms of player psychology. If i invest in a guccikit, how am i playing? Cautiously, deliberately, with a high degree of tension because I've invested in my kit.

What is a freekit playing like? He's got zero stress, zero tension. He's playing the game like it's COD because he has nothing to lose. If he wins, which he can because the stitcher is busted even at level 1, he gets all my shit. If he dies, he just immediately queues up another freekit run. The imbalance in psychologies is what really rankles me. If embark wants to maintain it, which would be fine, they should make freekits much weaker. It's as simple as that.
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>>546965468
No it fucking isn't. Blue is barely better than green shield, and pink is fucking WORSE because it barely gets any definsive bonus at all while getting saddled with a MASSIVE movement penalty. The only true pvp advantage that you get with a custom kit is the venator, which is its own fucking can of worms since it is itself grossly op compared to other weapons.
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>First time playing, PC
>Switched off crossplay
>Did 30 runs
>Not 1 PvP instance took place (except for a single trio run but that is expected and we shot first, and no one died)
Im glad I bought this game, its rare to actually have a unique experience and a full loot PvP game with minimal KOS is pretty cool to see.
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Areas of your screen not visible to your character should be darkened and blurred. Players should not render unless there is a direct line of sight between the two.
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>>546966047
venator AND the tactical blue augment that throws a smoke bomb at you when the shield breaks. The smoke bomb augment is the best augment in the game BY FAR.
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>>546966057
In my experience a rabid nigger will jump you every 5 to 6 hours or so.
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>>546965468
You are correct but bad players will never admit they are getting outskilled by bad kits
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>>546966138
I can't believe it's even remotely controversial of a take lmao
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The fact a blue pistol ( Venator ) and a blue augment ( Blue tactical augment ) are the best gear in the game tells how imbalanced the game is atm.
Legendary and epic itens are simply not worth using because most of them are weaker or not worth the investing into.
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>>546966132
Seems like OCE + PC is a pretty chill place then, maybe its a regional thing
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I have like 5 venators from various kills and random loot crates, might as well run these things.
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>>546966216
Legend and Epic are stronger, its just nit by much and that is a good thing. You guys are asking for Tarkov at its worst when it was impossible for no/low geared to even hurt geared players. It sucked, it wasnt fun, and it turned the game into sponges.

You fags also bitch your stashes are full and you have nothing to do, and yet also cry you lose stuff. Just accept it and move on god damn.
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>>546966367
There's a difference between sponges and a stronger shield providing one extra bullet worth of protection.
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Heavy shield should turn you into a juggernaut in PvP, and blue shield should be significantly stronger than green. No real reason to bring a blue shield in considering batteries are scarcer than powercells. Also never bringing in my Bobcat, Vulcano or any other epic I get until the shield situation is addressed. There's a lot of risk and zero reward. Imma rock greys/greens until they fix the shitty meta. Also freeshitters should all get Rattlers, 3 bandages, a grey shield and that's all.
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>>546965913
I agree, power-wise, free kit should be so weak that you want to avoid players because even in a confrontation where you have the drop on them it's easy for them to turn it around. So it forces you to third party after they got chipped by other players or arcs.
Hairpin is the perfect weapon for this. It is strong enough against arcs for you to loot, it is weak enough against players so you don't fuck around, and it is silenced so you're not just hunted down by kitted players.
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>>546966464
>turn you into a juggernaut
nah, that would be leg shields
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>>546966464
>Imma rock greys/greens until they fix the shitty meta
Same here, I'll also not be running any keys until they patch the bugs and make them better
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Tactical Augments are fun because I get to just start reaching into my bag of tricks when fighting.
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how is bobcat? looted one from a security breach locker and thinking of taking it in with me on future raids but have never seen one or fought against one before
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I cant find any bps at all, whenever i do find one its always a bettina...
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>>546964383
>nerfed
there's literally valid things wrong that are set incorrectly on that weapon (ammo issue being #1)

not really a nerf when a weapon is accidentally saving half of all ammo
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>>546966627
It's a faster firing Stitcher afaik, so it should be super good.
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>>546966627
Worse than a stitcher 4
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>>546966627
Loses to a Kettle IV
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>>546966590
healing purple does the same thing, it just makes you put your heals in the bottom row opening up space for util
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>>546966627
Bad without the magazine II-III mod.

Default bobcat only has 20 bullets. Guess how many bullets is required to down a light shield
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>>546966367
>and that is a good thing
no, it really isn't
it's just too time consuming and costly to make purple gear for it to be worth using
you need to get out of your even starts arena shooter thinking
the way the game is balanced right now just fundamentally breaks the progression
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>>546966797
I haven't really started using higher tier augments, I somehow looted some and I see they have different sub-types at that rarity.
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>>546966467
>I agree, power-wise, free kit should be so weak that you want to avoid players because even in a confrontation where you have the drop on them it's easy for them to turn it around.
This.

>>546966870
It looks like the same faggot from yesterday who was seething about the idea of people with more time and thus better gear being able to shit on his Stitcher 4 and green shield loadout, lol.
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Anvil and Ferro need to be more reliable. It is unacceptable how inaccurate they are even up close.
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>>546951992
I want it but i gotta go to work and will only come online in 3 hours can u add me ? https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198250808568/
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>>546967129
Nice bait.
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If I spawn in the lower left part of Blue Gate, I surrender, simple as
What a dogshit map
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Stitcher and Kettle need to be more reliable. It is unacceptable how little ammo capacity they have.
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>>546967196
This is literally how you solve the free kit complaints. Make ferro 2 and anvil 1 have much tighter accuracy.
Free Kits would easily get turned on and slaughtered by any decent player
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>>546967318
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Finding cooling fans is impossible
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>>546966590
https://youtu.be/WA_oqFRZWAk?t=118
we need more games where you play as an alchemist/artificer (ab)using disposable items for combat
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Some people in this game have zero survival instincts
>I'm in blue gate reinforced reception security wing looting
>hear some guy outside
>I put a remote bomb next to the door
>it's beeping pretty loudly
>he opens the door
>it looks like he actually SEES the bomb
>he still enters
>I blow him up and finish him with my shotgun
>he calls me a cockroach
What did he THINK was going to happen?
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>>546967141
Already sold it off, sorry
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>>546967741
ah yeah some consolefag spamming DONT SHOOT ultimately gets me because he DID shoot
maybe I should turn off crossplay after all
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>>546967514
server racks in power gen/literally anywhere else with em
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>>546966952
keep doing trials, I got 4k points in something last week and it gave me the blueprint
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>>546967514
pilgrims peak on blue gate
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>>546967514
>already got my 5/5
>every time I find a Cooling Fan I salvage it and drop the mats back
>do the same for Rusted Gear, Rusted Tools, Lab Reagents etc.
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>>546967254
bait
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>>546968209
based
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It really is night and day how quiet breach and search is now with 5/5 on the skill point, now instead of alerting half the map it's maybe if they're on the same floor as me.
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>>546967514
for me it's pillows
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I'm new and I feel like I'm incredibly unlucky or something. There's so many stories of nice raiders in solos, and I just haven't found them or I'm being matchmake with ESLs. I say "hey raider, friendly, if you want this loot I left it here, I won't contest" stuff like that, and I just get shot on sight. I can't seem to get the drop on anyone, which admittedly might be a map knowledge thing, but it feels bad to be killed from an angle by an exfill camper. I've had 4 games now where I'm hiding in a brush or tree, and someone runs by me with a rocketeer or several hornets chasing him, he doesn't know I'm there and neither do the Arcs, but the Arcs just auto lock on me in the bush and fuck my shit up. I don't feel like I stand a chance with such a low economy, especially since I seem to be queueing with only PK'ers. I love the gameplay loop, but PK'ers are all I see and they don't even get anything out of killing me.

tl;dr Am I just unlucky or is this the entire experience?
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>>546968481
i always find 1-2 pillows in the buried city hospital changing room lockers on level 3
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>>546968897
My games have been extra unfriendly this weekend compared to last week
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what keybind do you use for quick use items. im thinking about changing it to scroll wheel click
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>>546968897
What region are you in and are you playing PC with crossplay off? Also what maps, because the early maps ive found are also more peaceful than end game ones.
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It says the expedition doesn't clear your unlocked benches, but does that mean it keeps your bench levels or not?
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>>546968996
I even turned off crossplat because fuck asian console players. Im convinced asian players play on NA servers somehow just out of spite, thats why nobody is talking and just shooting on sight. I did run into somebody full on singing while he was killing people, including me, but that was funny as shit. His voice wasnt half bad either.
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>>546969054
NA, usually Dam or Buried city, and crossplay is off because I dont like the idea of console players stinking up my lobbies with their gamer stink. Only I am allowed to do that.
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>>546968481
I've completely given up hope on that.
I finished all the quests and now only care about my expedition. Everything else can get fucked
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dont sleep on the hairpin
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>>546969018
Q for items because it feels fine there, m4 for dodge roll, m5 for walking, m6 for holstering, m7 for quick comms menu, m3 for shoulder swap
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>>546966057
I've been shot at and killed at least once by pvp fags just shooting me in the back. The first time I actually killed a dude was with the anvil. I said hi to him and walked away and he proceeded to shoot me in the back and I just popped him twice in the face with the anvil or whatever the revolver is called. Called him a bitch and other cuss words as he surrendered like a bitch.
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>>546969318
what am I supposed to do with it exactly
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>almost every solo raid peaceful
>within 2 minutes there are 3 hostile enemies I damaged and get shot at
>last one chases me down to finish me off too
wtf
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>>546947897
you lying tranny.
PROVE IT.
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>>546947897
I was starting to assume this same thing,
I've been outperforming all these shitters rushing me in PvP and seem to have been rewarded with lobbies with zero friendlies
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There's actually nothing to do in the game for me right now. I still need to get Bastion and Bombardier cores for my workshops, but it's not worth bringing in striving for the blues/epics I'd get from said workshops when the meta is using grey/green gear anyway. I don't feel like doing the expedition because I'd lose BPs, so no point in gathering shit for that either. Completed the deck and live event last week already.

Back to WT I guess.
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>>546970160
kill Queen/Matriarch
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>I just died because my own jolt mine stunned the other guy and ME
>he was stunned for significantly shorter for some reason
is there some perk or gear that lets you out of stuns faster? we got stunned at the same time yet he could start shooting me while I was still stunned
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>>546970198
There's zero incentive to do so. Even If I was fully decked out in legendaries I could still lose to a freeshitter with a Stitcher shooting me in the back. Scratch that.
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>>546969142
When I turned off crossplat I ended up getting dead lobbies with only a few aggressive rats who hardly even talked.
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>>546970160
people kill bastions and bombardiers for fun during matriarch/hidden bunker - you'll get cores there
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>>546969318
anvil IV with silencer II is the upgrade
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>try to kill bastion solo
>eventually give up
>some guy rats and sits a lil behind waiting for me
some people deserve an axe to the face
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>>546970251
it's the current trial
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>see some guy just get set on fire in the hospital
>usually friendly but take the opportunity to kill him in a few hits with my stitcher
>end up finding multiple purples and a blueprint after I eliminated the competition
I knew it, that jew was going to take MY money
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KOS chad reporting in.

Why am I still getting stuck in games with larpers and friendlies?

I had to put down a group of open mic pussies that were working together on solos.
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>>546970160
bombardier is arguably so easy tho, bastion is harder in terms of the gear you actually need
just camp in a house with an anvil, you kill it in like 6 clips if you hit all your shots
it helps that its ai is retarded and doesnt shot you through small windows / gaps that you can shoot it from
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>>546970281
I'm running dam rn and nobody wants to talk. Probably cuz its late/early as hell, but at least the last couple rounds have been peaceful. I think nibbas is just tired and grubbin for salvage like me. Im just running free kits so I can upgrade them to green later.
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>>546970521
>bombardier
oops confused it with rocketeer
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>>546970501
>reddit spacing
>is a kos nigger/jeet
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>>546970501
because this is not niggerkov, you are free to go back there though
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This game brings out the worst in me bros, I've had multiple schizo meltdowns over the dumbest shit. I'm going to take a break.
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>>546970501
>purple devil emoji
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>>546970905
Its okay brother, I've had schizorants with my boys and even they are getting tired of it. I'm learning to just take the losses on the chin and land on my feet when I can, its working out. But man this game makes me burn on the inside like nothing else does sometimes. Hopefully there will be some sort of karma system or bounty system implemented. Imagine getting bonus XP for helping non-teammates kill arcs together, that'd be neat. Or maybe an item ladder you can climb for doing helpful feats like extracting with strangers alive.
As you can see, I'm still coping
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>extended barrel bp from trials
Fucking finally, something useful
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>>546970160
Hopeless hamster wheel gamer
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>>546947605
>what are you talking about? The guns, armor, and loot system are all working perfectly as intended. We’re trying to sell the grunt fantasy to players. You aren’t a super soldier.
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I have done nothing but spawn in naked on blue gate and rushing reinforced reception for the past 2 hours in hopes of getting an augment blueprint
I just have nothing to do in the game
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>get shot by a faggot using the ai voice feature
>shoot back
>suddenly some 3rd guy shoots me in the back
>he starts saying some random larp shit about being the "good sheriff"
>gives me a lecture about shooting innocent players
>calls me no-skill trash
>knocks me out
bro, i'm just trying to loot and do quests
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>>546971726
same, I still have like 30~ quests left and I could pay off all my expedition right now but I don't feel like there's much else to do
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When did you guys realize the majority of the player base is overall silently and constantly buying their gear from the merchants, not crafting, not doing quests or trials for BPs, and this is why they constantly run free kits? When did you realize what this might mean as far as balance changes go seeing as embark collects a vast array of data from each match?
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>>546971747
people who larp positions of power ("Sheriff") want to feel some kind of authority
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>>546950925
>wearing orange Ryder
Just give your character the fucking sidecut dreadlocks or a balaclava and move along lil bro
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>>546971292
Yeah, that's why I'm going to take a break, my last meltdown wasn't even due to rats or some bullshit, it was a total misunderstanding that caused me to go on an unironic misogynistic rant and toss out some cruel insults.

I mentioned it in the previous thread but basically I was in solo hunting a Leaper, took a shot from across the map at one and then fought it as it closed in. It exploded and downed me, I sigh and take it as a loss, and someone comes up and tells me they'll defib me. She tells me to crawl to her, and on the way she asks if I shot her earlier; I tell her I didn't, I've been fighting the Leaper the whole time, and she basically sees my ferro and accuses me of shooting her. During the KO animation I go full incel rage and shit over voice, basically call her a typical retarded bitch, it was nuts.

In the recap, I see that I DID hit her, with a headshot no less, while aiming at the Leaper. The distance was so far that I didn't even see her character model. I literally had to step away from the computer, hop in my car and take a night drive, I felt like such a fucking retard. It was embarrassing. It really brings out the worst in me.
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>>546971726
I've given up after an hour or so and just started doing the trials all to 3 stars in the hopes of getting one
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>>546971784
I can't be bothered with the quests, but everything else is done for me
I'm just really disappointed that the "endgame gear" isn't very endgame so you can't even load in into a raid with purples and have fun with it because you'll just get wrecked by a rat with a stitcher all the same
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>PvE trannies keep complaining about the game
>they cheat the system by exploiting the DON'T SHOOT community
>without KOS chads around, they quickly complete the game in EZ mode
>PvE trannies then complain harder about the game
>they start making stupid suggestions to "fix" a game that they never player correctly
>unironically tell people to go back to tarkov
Guys, why is this so common?
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>>546971821
thats because unless you read or watch someone explain it you'll never know you can get these things from trials
i didnt even get what trials were when i unlocked it
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>>546972578
>they cheat the system by exploiting the DON'T SHOOT community
what does this mean
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>>546972578
KOS is a retarded attitude tho
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I love it when tourists try to use mental gymnastics to explain why PvP shouldn't be in an extraction shooter.

It never gets old.
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I think a Hunters v Farmers PvE/PvP map event would be cool.

First 10 minutes is increased Arc spawns and aggressiveness. And night level loot. Also PvP is turned off. After 10 minutes PvP turns back on and a 2nd wave of players spawn in. You can specifically queue to spawn in on the 2nd wave.

Give the PvErs what they want. But they only get 10 minutes or we can hunt them down for being slow
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>queue hidden bunker 3 times in a row in hopes of getting leaper damage trial done
>no leapers every single time
I sure love spawning and extracting, feels like blue gate all over again
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>>546972918
I don't take every fight. That's not KOS. If you're running laterally and I've got an anvil, I'll probably let you go because the anvil is really hard to lead people with. How's that for not being KOS? I might stalk you and shoot you when you stand still though.
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so how many would I have to kill to get 4k? assuming map condition X2 points
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>>546973030
I'm guessing 1.5-2
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pretty sure I've already done this twice (sentinels, not turrets) or does it mean I need to melee it
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>>546972951
OR... JUST PLAY THE GAME NORMALLY
>start game
>randomly spawn into a game that is already half over
>everything is already looted
>shoot first rat that you see
>he is filled with loot
>extract
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just ran into 5 other people doing the reinforced reception thing on nightraid blue gate
I feel like it says something about the shit tier loot distribution and drop rate if this is how people are playing the game
like embark must have the data on how shit the progression and gameplay is, right?
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>3 additional heal slots
>now your top 4 slots can be util
>3 safe pockets
>if you're defibed you get a free bandage effect applied
pretty good stuff
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>>546973002
that's not the point, just looking to PvP is retarded
opportunistic PvP when somebody PvE's is also retarded
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>>546973326
>devs give you a specific mode for players like you
>you still complain
please see a therapist
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>>546973326
change that with security breach and you'll see the same problem, people aren't organically playing out the map/game.

They're just beelining it every time
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>>546973478
try using your big brain to tell us how and when pvp is okay
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>people who take ziplines from top to bottom instead of gaining speed by falling first
Such easy kills. I was on spaceport launch and a dude tried to kos me as he came up, i pushed him and he went back down so i jumped in after him and killed him as i was falling midair and grabbed the line a second before splatting. Was cinema
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>>546973612
>person obviously looking to kill you
>kill him
that's it basically
if the person you target has no intent to pvp you pvp'ing him is retarded
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>>546973030
I killed 1 and got 2 stars, so just do 2
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>>546973496
???

>>546973520
I wonder if they're going to make any big changes to the game after the first Expedition
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>>546973779
>person obviously looking to kill you
please explain in detail what this looks like to you.
the scenario is that no one has fired any shots yet.
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>open door
>some guy sitting in a corner for some reason
>run past then say hello
>he shoots me in the head
>almost kill him anyway
>as he tries to execute him a wasp finishes him off
lmao
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Best map for farming snitches without getting shot in the back by players?
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>see youtube shorts
>people having fun
>doing funny things with leapers
>riding wasps and somehow bumping into other wasps and blowing them both up
>just generally doing insane funny things or having funny moments
>me playing
>solo and lonely
>most people i run into are silent or emote wheel only
>30% of them are kosrats most likely with free kits or venator IVs, no in between
>don't do anything fun or creative, just loot and kill things
Man, I need some friends.
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>>546974067
Why not try crawling to the elevator?
>>546974115
Same.
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>>546973923
well then don't fire any shots and don't pvp lol?
it's literally that easy
come up with a harder scenario
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>>546974090
I find far north on blue gate to be pretty chill. Most people have no reason to go into that lake area and usually people are afraid of the roaming rocketeer that spawns near the building. Also the building may be a red zone, but it has really shit loot and only like 3 red lockers and usually a sniper turret out front which fucks with people too. You can just snipe snitches with an osprey to get them close to you.
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>>546974195
I ran into like 3 people last match in there who shot first / trying to shoot at me, I guess it's an Asia server issue
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>>546974067
what a retard
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>>546974324
Maybe try the north/south towers on Spaceport? The ones near the trench area
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>come to dam to get cooling fans
>find some people glitching through a door
>learn how its done
>we share in the loot
>let one of the guys have a vulcano I for fun
>cant find my cooling fans
>someone else shows up and drops me one
>thank him but i still need more
>cant find them wtf
>have to extract
>free loot run???

The glitch strat is to have someone sprint into the edge of a door, like toward the doorframe, at a diagonal, and then have someone else sprint jump into you, hopefully pushing you through. You need to be running.
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>>546974726
I think you can also do it on your own with a barricade
Place it and dodge roll into it as it assembles and it'll push you through the wall
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>NOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE WITH BETTER GEAR TO BE STRONGER THAN ME IN PVP
Alright, then I guess this game is doomed to stagnation because gear only means shit against ARC, but the most dangerous thing on the map is actually other players. If your epics don't make you stronger than a freeshitter in greys then there's nothing to strive for.
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>>546974701
Yeah I just had 2 people try again (free kit of course). I'll try space port, thank you.
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>matriarch blue gate
>she gets bugged into the edge of the map away from us
>shield is up for like a full two minutes
>finally drops again and we waste like 3-4 minutes of a kill
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Someone just killed 5 of us in the matriarch event. We ended up in a building and its over us so the shields are ontop of us.
Then they pulled out that legendary beam gun.
Nobody was reacting because there wasnt gun shots. I didnt realize I was being attacked by a player until i was half dead.
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>>546975005
>If your epics don't make you stronger than a freeshitter in greys
They do though. The issue is that free kitters have no downside so they just bum rush you or play even more cancerously like afking at an extract or crouch walking everywhere to get the jump on you.
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>>546975207
he wanted the queen all to himself, pretty based
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>>546975005
that's how you know it's just freetards countercomplaining about how rare gear shouldn't actually be more powerful
they wouldn't be able to get their free little rat kills if someone with a purple shield could just turn around when feeling a light tickle, and just ohko their puny green shield with their purple gun
rare gear SHOULD be a power fantasy because of how involved it is to acquire it
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>>546975302
Getting gear in this game isn't really all that hard and not to mention there's no mandatory wipes. That being said freekits need to have stitcher removed and get new gray tier shields.
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>>546975302
Yup. Sadly I'm starting to feel like the poorfag crybabies are the majority and Embark might keep this absolutely horrid and boring meta. Might as well delete medium and heavy shield from the game and get rid of the tier color system.
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>murders arguing that murdering grubs is difficult
The game can never be good enough for the most rewarded community. Best I can do is
>game was designed for pve with pvp on the side
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>>546975626
Wait a second... This isn't destiny 2 at all
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>deadline a leaper
>he jumps and the explosion kills me
I'd laugh if that wasn't the final thing I needed for my trial stars
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>>546974176
pvpchuds....??? our response???
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>>546975626
How do you want to PvE when tons of free kitters just want to run up to any sounds of you shooting at PvE to shoot you?
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>>546975850
Bounty system. Initiated a fight? Gain small (1) bounty. Killed a player defending yourself? Medium bounty (2) Player killed from a fight you instigated? Large bounty (3). Escaping with no kills? Remove 5 bounty. After, for example, 10 or 15 bounty, a reward appears with your name, and other players can see a 100 meter radius circle on the map of Bounty location, they can be anywhere in the circle, not just the center. The larger the bounty, the smaller the circle becomes. Rewards include Epic and Legendary guns, large cash or cred rewards, or even raider tokens. The more kills the bounty gets away with, the more xp/money/cred they get. PvP is now funneled for people who want to fight players, and the best players will only fight the best players, grubs can 3rd party for a chance at nabbing a reward, or focus on PvE with less of a threat, requiring map knowledge and awareness to maintain their safety, and players' threat level and game excitement are balanced off by being rewarded for killing unabated.

Second idea, this one is funny, killing someone has a small chance to break their loot, or a portion of it, starting with the rarest items.
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>>546975479
yeah, my inventory is full of blue and purple mats but there's no point in using any of them because I know I'll just get deleted by a stitcher as soon as I go in
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>doing the quest to kill a leaper
>kill it and get the pulse unit
>stick it in my ass
>turn around
>some guy starts shooting me
>down him
>ask why he's shooting me
>like a classic jew tries saying that I was shooting at him
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>>546947605
>I can't change my skill tree after my points are spent
>But the developer will anyways
The rest of the tree is so dogshit that beach is still the best path, but fuck that's annoying.
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>>546976545
>see a rat
>kill him first
>labeled as a terrorist
What a shit system
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Players are getting BPs and shitty pink guns worse than the starting gear in lockers
>WOAH NIGGER THIS IS DESTROYING THE DELICATE LOOT ECONOMY AND PROGRESSION OF THE GAME NERF THIS NOW!!!!
>OP weapons and retarded spawns for over a month
Hold on now. We need data before we rush any balance decisions. We need to consult the players, look at our data and then maybe we can decide how to move forward with the gameplay changes.
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>>546954095
You sound like a real idiot
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Dunno what to do about lurkers once you make any sort of noise, it just seems to heavily disincentivize fighting ARC.

Got corner camped with venators twice, third time some dude rushed me as the bombardier I was fighting was shooting bombs at us. I mean sure enjoy the green weapons, I even put the ammo in the safe pocket
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Switched off crossplay after 70 hours or so of gaming. I've only done 5 raids so far but 0 pvp and not a single "urban" voice has been heard.
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Why doesn’t this game have gear score brackets like in dark and darker or similar? If you’re running a free kit not risking anything you should be in a bracket with other free kits risking nothing, just seems fair
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>>546976814
It's okay timmy you are the coolest kid in class
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>>546976545
Safety pockets already act as a great loot filter. The person finding the loot gets the best stuff, the person killing them gets the second best. The PKKer gets nothing but the satisfaction of a job well done, and I'm okay with that. A bounty system would just get gamed by discofags to reap all of the benefits without actually engaging in sincere pvp. The weapons need slight reworking. The overall game system of game mechanics is fine.
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>>546976545
As >>546976726
said this is an incredibly bad system, even if you made it so that you don't get a bounty placed on you if you shot first, it means letting a rat get the first shot on you which is huge.
In reality you just need to nerf free kits just a little bit which will also incentivize people to bring gear to PvE.
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>>546976869
The only "urban voices" I've heard have actually been cool. One of them dropped a venny BP for me after I healed him when he got jumped by ARC.
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>>546976904
Who says it doesn't?
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>>546976968
MM is still being nice to you. Embark segregated the lobbies without telling anyone, and it's working pretty well.
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>>546976968
Killed one two matches ago when he tried to steal my leaper kill and the loot
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>>546976545
The best part about this is people don't have to like it for it to be good lol this system would be great
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>>546976904
because gear score is freaking retarded
the unpredictability is what makes it fun
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>>546977256
Just wait until people immediately rush any arc you kill to loot it and if you shoot them first you get a bounty.
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>>546977256
Samefag
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Free for anyone that doesn't have it
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If Second Wave ARC machines are so strong and smart, how come they can't open doors?
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>>546976726
>>546976963
>play a single game without getting kills
>bounty goes down
You didn't even read the whole thing. Bounty would get cred and raider tokens, ezpz. I thought pvp players liked rewards lol
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this game is...


fun
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>>546977302
Desperate cope because someone agrees with me.
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>>546977367
So you have to waste your time to get rid of a bounty because of some rat, and alternatively people can KoS all they want, go into the next lobby alt tab and afk then extract?
What's the point?
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>open desk drawer in a random shed out in the middle of nowhere
>snaphook blueprint
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>>546977367
You have to play a round with a bounty on your head because you defended yourself, people will shoot you because you have a bounty forcing you to defend yourself to get an even bigger bounty. In reality people would just spawn with a free kit and book it to the nearest extract to reset their bounty, making the entire system useless.
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>>546977460
I unironically can't remember the last time I actually had fun like this

but I'm old, so theres probably good games out there I just don't want to play fortnite or tarkov or whatever the kids play these days
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>>546977502
>playing the other half of the game is wasting your time
That's funny and ironic

>>546977583
>player killer has to defend himself from player killers
This shit writes itself, fellas.
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>>546976626
Same. Honestly I don't see much point in playing right now even though I enjoy the game itself. I just got nothing to work towards. Fuck expeditions for wiping our my blueprints, and fuck the meta for making blues/epics/legendaries worthless against other players. Fuck investing time and money into crafting or obtaining that shit when I could get blasted in the back by some freeshitter with Stitcher 1 while I'm looting, and fuck all those fucking gay ass casual carebears with their "EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A FAIR CHANCE IN PVP". These people are cancer.
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>>546977705
Your idea is fucking terrible just give up.
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>>546977705
I PvE too though and yes being forced to play a round while marked for killing a griefer therefore I don't want to bring shit in is a waste of time, retard.
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>>546977720
They just need to make free kits play in a separate lobby or buff the good gear significantly

Right now there is no point in gear, in the fucking loot based extraction game lol
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>>546977720
I imagine expeditions will change before the first deadline, Embark wants people to do them but too many are saying it isn't worth it
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>>546977720
Agreed
If a freetard Stitcher fag starts shooting me in the back while I'm wearing a purple shield, I should be able to shrug that off
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>>546977868
Losing all recipes is utter BS and not worth 5 skill points ( most skills are weak/useless ) and a few extra space in your stash.
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>>546977928
The scrappy buff might be good but I don't think there's any numbers.
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>>546977883
I mean, i dont think a sticher I without mag extension 2 can kill you without reloading and if cant kill him while he's reloading its a blatant skill issue, especially if you're using a fucking venator IV.
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>>546969726
>solos are for going into a dynamic experience and seeing what you get depending on who you encounter
>squads are for jumping in and lighting up other people with your bros
Thats just how it is.
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>>546977928
I'm at 117 hours in raid with only 39/74 blueprints. If the blueprint spawns even made an iota of sense I'd be more forgiving, but as it is it's just the sheer volume of containers you need to open for a measly % chance of a drop. Surveyor farming is fucking nothing, I get one blueprint that's usually a dupe from a limited pool for every 7-9 I kill. I will not be doing the first wipe unless they make it VERY attractive with the buffs
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>>546977780
>no argument
You got btfo

>>546977823
So you get 2 bounty for killing a single griefer, 7 if he dies. You still need to kill someone else to reach the minimum 10, or even 15 before it even starts, obviously can be balances around whether your playing solos or squads, more or less bounty earned being relative to said modes.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to not want to kill multiple people every time they load into the game. If you want pvp so bad, just play call of duty or tarkov
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Game is fun but you really need to keep your blueprints when sending people out on caravans because of how rare they are
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>>546978103
Where do you find so many? Only killing surveyors?
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>>546978008
That's beside the point, anything can be outskilled right now yes
But gear should have a meaningful impact on combat encounters, but it doesn't
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>>546978143
>where do you find so many
I hit residential drawers/cupboards from blue gate village and dam's 3 apartments. They seem to most just spawn attachment blueprints so I've been getting a lot of dupes now. The rest I've been getting more recently have been from trials and the occasional trade from here
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>>546973473
my only complaint is that the effect is pretty useless when solo because the amount of times a rando has decided to defib me in the 50 hours i've played is in the single digits but the 3 safe pockets and 3 dedicated healing slots are very nice so I might still use it when I get my gear bench to level 3
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>>546947541
>Bettina
Unpopular opinion, but I don't think it's that bad as people claim it to be.
I don't treat it as an assault rifle, I only shoot 1 or 2 bullets at a time and it gets the job done at medium range.
That said, there are better weapons, but it's far from being as bad as people say it is.
Just play it as a battle rifle.
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>>546977643
It's cheap because it's pretty useless.
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>>546978117
Why would anyone waste energy trying to argue with a retard like you? When you saw no issue with the previous argument it was clear you are fucking stupid.
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>>546977883
Right. But retards on Reddit want everyone to have the same odds in PvP because they're fucking casuals who play on weekends while wagecucking for the rest of the week. There's even faggots in this thread who oppose gear meaning shit in PvP for the same reason, they don't want to get dunked on by well geared players. At this point my time is better spent grinding the garbage BF6 battle pass than playing ARC where my stash is constantly maxed out because I have no reason to craft good shit.
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>>546978117
Nice, so freekits get a free pass to magdump some PVEr anyway.
You genuinely have a tiny brain and you keep projecting your obsession with KOSers when I told you I do both PVE and PVP as the game intended. Not worth engaging with you.
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>>546978349
I enjoy the fruitless activity that is, "sniping," so it's going to be pretty nice to have
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What is the point of everyone wanting a tempest bp if it does the same damage as the kettle which you get for free? Same with any gun really

Ferro and Kettle are the only guns you need, zero point in blue/purple guns
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>>546978372
Yeah, I've been exclusively playing the game for the social aspect ever since completing the Expedition prep and now that I have a cold and my throat is fucked so I can't actually talk to people it has kind of made me realize how shallow the game actually is
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>>546978313
The effect is irrelevant to me, its the healing slots that basically give you three additional quick slots while all the other augments make the additional slots they give you specific item types like one util slot or two grenade slots.

so its best for increasing quick use slots
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>>546978359
You sound mad, my guy. Relax, its not the serious. Don't take things so personally.

>>546978375
>projecting my obsession
That's a projection, all I did was provide an idea in a singular post, and that's all it took for you to go on a schizorant. At first it was kind of an ironic post, but now I hope they do implement something like that to watch more anons seethe like this, this is a cinematic experience, honestly.
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>>546978260
I have tried dam but really haven't had much luck. I'll try blue gate though, thank you.
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>Doubles down on his projection
Lol L ragebait lil gup
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>>546978719
Oh, power rod room in power gen is pretty good. I managed to find a blaze grenade blueprint, and I usually 1-3 healing sprays a trip as well as a pile of grenades and other meds
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>>546978514
tempest makes cooler shooty noises
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>>546978426
I don't like it because it plays with my timing. I don't want to get used to the travel time of a ferro bullet with a purple attachment.
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>>546978815
Anon I dont think you know what a projection is if thats how you're using it. Im not that anon, but you shouldnt make yourself look like an idiot while calling them stupid at the same time.
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>>546978913
I'm more interested in if it can make the anvil a bit better, the velocity is really what causes me issues. I will miss having a compensator, though
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>I-i'm not him
Kekypow
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>>546978815
>no quote posting because anger overcomes you
Now that's funny, keep em coming. Also idea 2 is still on the table.
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>classic ideasguy retard
>people still responding
jesus christ, stop fucking posting
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Not giving you attention
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>>546979026
>he really is schizoranting
Well then, what a turn of events. I'll see myself out then

>>546979089
to be fair, someone asked him a question and he responded.
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>>546951106
Anvil, gun parts and wolfpack are the only blueprint blocking me from doing the expedition. I don't want to farm them again.
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I accept your concession, thank you.
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>trios spaceport
>matriarch up
>we decide to simply be evil
>zipline up to people offering "help", they're willing to let us loot as long as they do all the damage
>matriarch on fire
>we kill them and take their shit
>move on to another squad
>we kill them and take their shit
>finish her off ourself by snap hooking on top and using deadline
>escape with the good drops while another squad tries to kill us
being the "bad guy" can be fun every now and then
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I still have yet to be able to make an augment that gives me more than one safe slot and a medium shield and it's pissing me off
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>friend and i decide to fight the queen for the first time because of the trial
>no idea what we're doing
>bring hullcrackers and like 60 shots thinking it has to be enough for at least 2 stars
>hide in a warehouse taking potshots for 10 minutes while it bombs us until we're out of ammo
>1 star
perhaps we were a little underprepared
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>wake up
>check arc raiders general
>its another pvp fags melting down over internet words
Starting to think there isn't much of the game being discussed in these threads
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>>546977720
>finished my workshop in ~30 hours, so no point in going big ARC huntin'
>no interest in quests because they're pointless
>no interest in better gear because balance is fucked with most grey/green guns being just as good as everything else (minus Venator) and shields being made of paper, so damn near everyone is ratting because both TTK is crazy fast and first-shot advantage is brokenly strong
>no interest in trials because I think ranking bullshit in an extraction shooter is stupid and they pretty much all involve making a shitload of noise that someone will eventually rat you over as you farm the map, making you lose all progress in the round
>no interest in expeditions because FUCK losing all my damn-near mandatory BPs like wolfpacks and gun parts
>no interest in grinding out the battlepasses because all the cosmetics are either ugly junkpunk garbage or have those goddamn skinny jeans that make my raider look like a twink
>barely have any interest in trying the Stella map because it's already shaping up to be the designated PvP meatgrinder map where loadouts go to die like Tarkov's Factory or Labs
I'll probably freekit Stella for a while when I get the chance so I can be sure I've gotten my money's worth and then I'll be good.
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>>546977367
You think an EBT rat with nothing better to do than camp night raids for hours at a time would bat an eyelash at cycling bounties? If anything, this just gives the rat a more engaging gameplay loop.
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>pretends to be another anon again
Lol
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you can buy BP for like 2 bux online.
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>>546979729
How many people are pretending to be me anon? I'm literally just watching you post at this point, and I'm in game talking about my idea with strangers on dam. Queue up if you wanna get me, I'll be talking about the bounty system in game, so you'll know it's me
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>>546962160
Got my "hit a target 250+ meters away" achievement with the Arpeggio. Actually it was a Wasp almost 400m away. It's a very good and accurate weapon vs ARC, not good for short range PvP though.
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>the schizo is back
I thought we were passed this
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You make it even more obvious when you don't deny it lmao
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>>546980179
who are you quoting?
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Finally used my Control Tower key. Guy started coming after me on the roof; I ran and slid down the ladder to my death.. nice one devs. I actually had a good laugh.
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So, what, ARC nukes Italy every half an hour?
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>>546980362
God I fucking hope so
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>>546948621
Kill on Sight.

Had two kino raids yesterday
>killing on sight in the new map
>get a shitton of loot
>see a guy leaving, i'm basically full so just try to team up as we leave
>we're chilling in the train (like 3 minutes of the match left, we both thought we were the last ones on the map)
>get naded and both of us get absolutely fucked by some random slavic sounding dude
>both of us just laughing because of how caught off guard we were
>guy just extracts with all 3 instead of KO'ing us

>another run on Dam
>rushing red spots (venator IV of course) and killing people
>go to leave when I get enough loot (have a hatch key)
>go to the hatch on red lake
>see two guys there
>try to split them up
>kill one of them and then act like he tried to kill me (he wasn't a micfag, so could easily out talk him)
>act like I don't even need the loot and let the other guy take it
>clip him as he's looting
>loot em both and dip into the hatch

Sometimes I do feel bad killing so much when there's a lot of nice/guillable dudes in the game.

I do sometimes do friendly runs. Especially on the new map where people usually team up for the bastion thingy at the bottom.
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>>546980362
I don't think they nuke anything. I think they send emperor drones which are apparently so destructive raiders faint at the sight of them
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>>546980675
>raiders faint at the sight of them
Which is weird considering canonically people in this universe can be shot in the fucking face and only get knocked out.
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Where is the weak point on the shredder?
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a new skill, 6th sense
if someone aims at you, you get a subtle warning or if a player with lots of rat kills is nearby , similar to how spotting works in wt/wot
it would try to lessen the first shot advantage but dunno
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>>546980872
You have to turtle until it dies ___ :^) _______
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>>546980872
Weak point?
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>>546980943
Didn't Wraith in Apex had a passive like this?
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>Go blue gate, matriarch map, OCE, ~2 hrs ago
>go see freekittens and PvEniggers
>jackpot
>my three stack starts firing into the vents
>5 dudes in the raid area start panicking, running around inside and out
>they get picked off one by one, by either us or matriarch
>don't even go and collect loot

God I was so fucking hard the entire time. Catharsis has been 4% achieved.
Extract

Another

>Go blue gate again
>go find some newniggers
>gank em
>down both
>"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU CALLED YOUR MOTHER?"
>Party member replies "You wanna go to a party where people piss on each other?"
>"Wanna get fisted?"
>down the newniggers

Bliss
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>>546980872
shoot the bottom thruster so it looses balance and cant move for a little
dont shoot its shields
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>>546975395
or just make freekit have only rattler
you're not getting killed by that piece of shit
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>>546981160
Yeah that's fine too.
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They should add gore to the game and brutal execution animations to replace knockout.
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Is the circle reticle with bloom better? I see tons of YouTube shorts with people using that.
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HEY YOU

You're walking down the corridor when some fucker jumps from around corner in front of you and you're already down to 3/4ths health. What do you do?
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>>546981510
guess I'll die
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Built up a dozen keys and started using them tonight. Mostly blue/green crap and a couple weapons/wolfpack. No blueprints even with the pink keys.. am I just majorly unlucky or what.
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wheres Dellor? isnt that just the kind of game for him?
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>>546981510
My instinct would kick in and I'd kill him with a hammer, I would move so fast an efficiently, it'd look like I was teleporting.
>mfw Im brolly
>mfw everyone else is krillin
>mfw I help people more than kill them
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>>546946748
Does anyone have a complete skill tree or a guide?
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>>546981859
ure supposed to loot the rooms during night time
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This game has already peaked right?
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>>546981859
Its not as bad if you have the security breach perk, but yea keys arent as worth it without that perk if you dont have it. Even after the nerf Im still getting tons of loot, Dam Tower Control Room key has been pretty good to me on Night Raid rotations and Electrostorms
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>>546949316
This. It’s always the shit skim subhumans.
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>>546982065
And fight off a whole squad of 10 year olds? No thanks.
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>>546982125
Learn some friendly google spanish, it sends them into a fury. "Estamos amigos por favor! onions mohado tambien!"
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>>546979936
why would you spend real money on something that will be reset with expeditions
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>>546981510
>repeatedly flick "F"
>see them flick "F"
>move on
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>>546981510
I die because the TTK is too low in this game
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>>546949316
White people and Japanese people (honorary aryans) have been shown to be the only race that exhibits empathy
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>>546982385
>japanese "people"
Anon, they're called Elevens, and being honorary is a fucking title they have to earn
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>>546982276
some people won’t do the expedition and just want all blueprints to be able to craft absolutely everything.
and hunting the last 2-3 BP for your collection can be next to impossible. there should be a BP trader in the game that accepts dupes and gives you a special currency for it. 3 BP = enough currency to buy a BP of your choice
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>be up some elevator shaft on spaceport
>hear 2 solo players teaming coming in for the zipline
>incap the first one and throw a molotov down there
>sing the roof is on fire
>his buddy is so afraid he goes "omg kill me ure too good" over voip
im a pretty strong dude
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Will rats ever stop being rats? Surely that mindset isn't sustainable long term.
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fr tho why are the olives already pickled?
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Leapers need an AI buff. I keep coming across ones that are stuck (like the one that spawns above the zipline between the lake/control tower in Dam). That spawn is also way too easy to abuse because if it isn’t stuck in will jump down on the walkway railing next to the zip line and flail around until you take care of it.
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>saw a video of a whole squad setting up tons of flares on the Buried City bridge at night and lighting them all off at the same time

This game is pretty special man.
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>>546982078
>game has been out for 3 weeks
Nah we're only getting started.
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>>546982620
As long as pvp remains an option, really. It's a highly effective strategy, and mostly happens because pve players got mad that gearfags killed them too much, so they just freekit and play like that. It works, and that's the most important factor, stealing the fun that was stolen from them is a ptsd response, not an inherent one.
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>tfw can't put my gun into my anus pocket right before I die
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I place stun mines in random bushes
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>there is a trophy for dealing damage while standing on a Rocketeer
So they actually intended for people to rodeo a Rocketeer?
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>>546951209
This. >>546968996
The new map bought out the shitters. People who will stalk and shoot you in the back(TTK is way too low and whoever shoots 1st will ALWAYS win no matter what,unless they miss their shots). Or they will purposely aggro arcs and run towards people and THEN shoot whoever helps them. They don’t care if they themselves die. Been getting a LOT more of those game ruiners lately.
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>>546981614
>>546982362

A smoke nade plus fire would probably let you reset, but fire's awkward to come about
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>Starting playing on the later maps
>Now its nothing but KOS and betrayals
Damn I found the sweats
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What single change can the devs make to kill the game?
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>>546983037
Since the bigger bots have animations for shaking people off of them, yeah
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>doing missions
>get ratted
>rage load up with pink shield, pink aug + venny IV
>kill the first guy I see out of rage who's just running around
>loot him and find one Celeste Journal
>feel bad knowing he's gotta do this shitty quest again

Yea, I ain't built for this bros
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>>546982620
There must be some hidden matchmaking or it’s just because I turned crossplay off. Anecdotal but I’ve only had a single kos moment in the last dozen hours
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>>546983045
That's even assuming you have a chokepoint to cover, on open space you just spam smokes and play that the guy is braindead enough to not push you into them
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>>546970501
>preddit spacing.
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>about to get snaphook
>remember all the horror stories I read here
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>>546983054
Inversely, I find that most of the sweats are killing newbies on dam and buried city. I think there's a correlation between players who like killing and got killed and seek out weaker pray due to inability, and players who enjoy fighting people of similar skill and choosing to gear for stella or blue gate
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>>546982962
>bushes
does a raider spotter attract nearby arc?
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>>546983128
Consolefags are niggers, there is no "hidden matchmaking".
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>>546983275
will consolefags ever recover from this?
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>>546983151
Fun tools shouldn't be so rare
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>can't open map while downed
but
why
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Is there anything funnier than the fags that care about the "lore" in a game like this?
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>>546983543
Same reason you cant open your inventory when your downed and are unable to drop all your loot in a shithole behind a bush before crawling away from it so the killer doesnt get anything. Not really I just wanted to bring that up.
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>>546983543
Is there even a good reason you can’t use inventory when downed. Came across someone earlier who was downed and laughed about having a defib when I didn’t
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I can't do pve anymore because of all the wallhuggin bushfucking rats. Gonna wear this kossnigger cosmetic and do the same in stella montis.
>please please im friendly im just questing
Im never falling for that shit again.
You pvp-niggers have awakened the beast in me.
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I like the Velati(?) skin but it annoys me your hand clips through the thing strapped to your right hip. Wish I could take it off. Reminds me of the Souls games where such a small thing triggers me
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>>546983275
It’s weird because before the new map,i could count on one hand the amount of downright niggers I’ve interacted with(on PS5)that would purposely KOS(and then be swarmed by drones for going guns blazing). After the new map? Yeah of course it’s gone up exponentially. No doubt it’s shitters who play just to ruin matches. The amount of times I’ve seen people aggro as many arcs as they can,just to run them into other players(who of course they also fire at)is staggering. They get nothing from it other than the satisfaction of being a bigger.
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>>546983275
>pvp niggers are a loud vocal minority on pc
It all makes sense now
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the spawn rate of Shredders on Stella is retarded, they even code them directly into extraction points, whats the fucking game design intention of blocking extraction points with the most dangerous enemies in such a small map?
you can juke rocketeer and leapers outside bc they're open maps, this is just plain retarded
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>>546984346
sis, your 2 magnetic nades while the shredder hasnt aggro'd yet?
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>>546984346
would you rather be killed by shredders or people?
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>walk around with weapon holstered
>whenever you encounter a player say: "Yo buddy whats up?"
It really is that easy to not get shot at
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>>546984416
id rather have good game design regardless of who kills me
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>>546984565
I imagine that’s a big reason I haven’t seen much pvp. Some guy not using his mic or even emotes makes me very wary
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>>546984565
My rule of thumb is you get 3 to 5 seconds (arbitrary based on how Im feeling) to reply to my call out "hey raider, friendly!" and if they dont respond, I pack 15 to 20 impact grenades and I spam the fuck out of them.
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>>546984705
>>546984807
Its seriously a cheat code. Simply using the mic and players actually hearing your voice is enough to deter them shooting you like a scumbag
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>need one more leaper pulse unit to upgrade workbench
>drop in and hear leaper footsteps nearby and lots of shooting in the same direction
>make my way over to where the commotion is
>guy is holed up in one of those tiny buildings with two entrances, both doors open
>leaper looks like it's near death
>sneak in the back and unload into the guy
>tfw became the rat third party
sorry man I needed that pulse unit
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>looking for CPU cooling fan ingame
>trying not to look stuff up if I can help it because the game is fun
>finally google it
>"Yeah I know the best secret spot for it"
>"The top of the space tower"
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This seems like a good spot to snipe people with an Osprey, you need to bring a zipline to get up here.

Also I just had the most incredible run this game, I killed 4 people and I wasn't even the instigator in any of the confrontations. Got two blueprints as well.
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>>546984404
1 is fine, but I've seen 4+ spawn in the archives where you can loot those wooden boxes full of fuck all
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>>546984565
I was on PC with crossplay off last night, using my mic, but no one else was using their mic or emoting. It made me a little nervous, but there was no pvp. Maybe peace is just understood as the norm in PC solo.
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>>546985150
that's a terrible spot, what are you sniping? you can't even see the only nearby extraction from here
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>>546985275
Lots of people hide in that compound and come out back or run into the extract, though it's not something I would personally do because as I rule I don't shoot at people unless they shoot at me.
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If I'm tryhard 2 right now, i don't think I'm gonna be able to get the lower-tier skin if I'm only getting 1 promotion each week. I think I'm gonna need at least 1 double promotion. That sucks, i really want that skin. Looks like i need to poopsock to have even a chance. What's everyone's strategy for trials? Do you try to do as many of them as possible or just kinda hyperfocus on one and let the rest more or less slide? I think one good run on e.g. blue gate should get me like 20-30k on harvestables
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They have to cut some of the loadout minutia out. If I have the materials let me save a simple green/grey+upgrades/mods loadout to autocraft. Spending several minutes crafting shift and going through a bunch of menus is retarded
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My stash is full and I don't know what to do, I need 90k to expand.
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>>546985997
Even at max stash you will be constantly managing it every run
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freaking finally
the loot spawns are so retarded, it really does spawn in the apartments on dam for some reason
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>>546985997
Sell and then buy more stash space until it's maxed. Keep the good shit you need though.
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>>546985997
I'm in the same boat. Makes me want to not even play its so annoying.I did one raid last night then spent like 20 minutes managing stash and by that point I just decided to log off.
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>>546986073
been saying it for days grenade and mod bps spawn in residentials, nobody believes me.
weapon bps spawn in raider caches and cases
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Anyone ever hurled abused at you because you killed them?

mf even shot at me first, he fumbled so hard then spazed out and call me all kinds of names
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>>546986478
Only once, I just made retard noises "hurrb durb burrhhh..." and killed him
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>>546984346
they're not hard to kill at all, they're slow as fuck and all you need is something to block the line of sight as they charge up their attack and you wont get hit, i also like to throw a few impact nades on them and then its maybe 2 mags with a kettle 1 till their dead.
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>>546986478
Yup. I got sick of it so i just turned voice off entirely
>kill someone? they talk mad shit and try to make you feel bad on a person to person level for killing them
>get killed by someone? ...they talk mad shit and try to make you feel bad on a person to person level for being killed by them
The final straw was being betrayed by someone. He was sneaking up on me so i shot him and he ran around the corner screaming AIEEEE FRIENDLY FRIENDLY IM A FREEKIT DONT SHOOT. Because I'm a fucking trusting rube, i just turned around to let him go, then he peeked me and got two headshots with an anvil 4. Then, afterwards, he acted remorseful and told me to crawl towards him when he got jumped by arc. When i did, he just went HAHA YOU FUCKIN MORON DID YOU REALLY THINK I WAS GONNA REVIVE YOU? and juiced me right there. Never turning voice on again and I'm full KOS with everyone now.
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>>546986915
I kos mostly but I keep voice on now so I can be aware of teaming. If I had voice off I would've been killed by a trio of cocksuckers working together my last raid.
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>>546986915
That's the thing, people who are backstabbers or kosniggers will eventually just turn everyone in the game to be at each other's throats because you got crossed too many times so now you can't trust anybody.

You only need a few bad actors.
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>get downed
>"nice cock bro"
your response?
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>>546987063
That exact thing happened to me the other day actually kek. I got double peeked and literally instantly killed with zero time to do anything. I'm okay with that, honestly. The part i can't tolerate is the faggy power games people play. It's not like i go out of my way to kill people and generally prefer to slink around and loot stuff, but if i come across someone who didn't announce himself I'm shooting first and not trusting the late DON'T SHOOT.
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>just had the best run on Spaceport
>didn't run into a single other player
felt spooky
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>>546987238
>emote wheel
>thanks
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whats the point of fucking spawning with 18mins left on a night raid you incompetent fucking devs, im using a regular loadout too no free bullshit fuck me man
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you guys are alright. don't go to stella montis next raid
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>>546987218
I think people who get kos’d too much will stop playing mostly. The people who say pvp will take over or a pve mode will kill the game don’t make much sense. I don’t bother because it’s not much fun and loot isn’t hard-earned 90% of the time so why do it. Without drastic changes it’s a shallow pleasure. I would say the chance of pvp is the only pressure mechanic for extraction so it does serve a valuable purpose
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>just saved a lone dude from being killed by a rat extract camper
>another dude was following behind me so it was a squad of 3 against him
>he threw a smoke and ran like a rat to his hole
These rat fucks man
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>>546977343
do want, still got it?
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>>546987656
Wait for 5 more minutes and enjoy your carefree ARC hunting session.
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>>546987218

From a game theory perspective this is how it plays out IRL, but the key difference is the game is played repeatedly with the same players. The winning strategy there is tit for tat with forgiveness. Basically cooperate, defect if someone defects against you, but then cooperate again.

When the participants however change every round, the winning solution is simply to always defect. This is also why server lobbies and matchmaking are such different experiences. People are disincentivized from acting like a shitheel when the people around them can remember their behavior.
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>>546987218
I am not the sins of my maker
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are these purple recyclables new with stella montis? I feel like they'll be needed one day...
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>>546988959
yes
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>>546988959
>wasting precious inventory space on stuff that might be useful one day
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>>546988959
you only need it for a quest
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>>546989554
Probably should have checked that before I recycled it
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Thankfully BF6 had an actually good update today so I got something to play that’s not as shit as the current meta in Arc. Guess it’s gonna be until after the survey is closed for us to know what they’re gonna do to address the gear progression and freeshitter issues
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>need bombardier cells for my last l3 bench
>fuck up deadlining it a couple of times
>get shot while doing it
>lose nothing much but time
>finally get a good spot to mine the fucker
>someone jumps in and blasts him as I watch
>starts looting
>pause, congratulate him over voip and leave

I'm not cut out for this
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>>546989681
Alright man see ya tomorrow
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>>546989681
Unless they finally fixed SMGs dominating at all ranges then the game is still shit
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Why does the gunplay feel so fucking good?
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>>546946748
stop making the OP if you're going to make a mistake, how hard is it to fuck up a copy paste?

Let someone competent make it
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>>546989681
I really hope they do release a very detailed blog post talking about the survey results and what the plan is going forward
because as the game is right now it's going to nose dive as soon as the dad gamers also realize that the progression and whole gameplay loop of looting is a complete illusion
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>>546989853
same devs as Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017), the gunplay and movement is almost identical
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>>546989681
I just hope there's a weapon balance patch thursday, I cant stand dying to another venator
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would a visual faction-like system you sign up for solve pvp a little? I like that you never know.. it makes getting to extraction with nice stuff exciting, but most of the time you are only extracting with 8 minutes of loot that isn’t great. maybe having unlocks to work towards on both sides even if they are only things like customizing your hide-out or unlocking different skins
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>>546982962
Juice up the payload with a wasp driver
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>>546990221
>solve pvp
I dont think there's anything to solve, but a soft system of factions and marking could be fun, aslong as it's on a voluntary basis
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>>546990635
>I dont think there's anything to solve
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>>546947541
>Bettina
Good as a "shoot first" gun at midrange
>Tempest
N/A
>Vulcano
Shreds in CQB
>Bobcat
Not worth unless you have at least Extended Mag II or III, it has 20 bullets base and literally requires all 20 to down a light shield.
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>>546990673
Yeah I dont, please elaborate
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Finally crafted one of these weapons, hoping to use it during a Matriarch run and just hope I set up well enough near a Raider Hatch so I can use it without getting ganked.
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>>546990221
we don't need factions or a nemesis system or any of this retarded shit pve players keep wanting to add
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>>546990819
From my experience this shit is bad at pvp and ok in pve but it seem to absolutely vaporize armor plating, you can pretty much expose matriarch core/queen legs instantly
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>>546989971
this
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>>546989971
>A plan going forward
I hope there's a patch this week honestly, this game got legs but Im not sure it can withstand too long in this state
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>>546991223
God help me but i actually kind of believe in embark. This was a runaway hit beyond their expectations and potentially has real staying power if they play their cards right. I think they're going to be very motivated to stay with it for the long haul.
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>>546990965
After trying it out in the practice range on the dummies to me it just feels like an aim check. I've seen it used for pvp and so long as you have distance and they don't have cover there's nothing you can do against it
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>>546991684
Has anyone here followed the meta of The Finals? how did they handle it? only good way to judge where they take this atm
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>>546991804
There is no reliable way to see how they're gonna handle it except to see how they handle it. I just have a good feeling about it
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>>546989339
People are gona get pissed when they add increased inventory as part of the premium pass
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sometimes I get periods where i'm super on edge and anxious when playing this to the point i'm overly cautious and it's not due to having good loot or anything, this genre is cool
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>>546991804
The Finals is reasonably well balanced but they have a long history of overnerfing or undernerfing stuff and requiring months and months to get problem items to a good state. Currently The Finals is having its first esports tournament and there hasn't been a balance update in about a month in order to "not upset the meta for the pros" which is pissing off everyone who isn't a pro.
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hey i'm friendly!
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Reminder if you're going for expedition, finished all your expedition material requirements and want to cash in stash value for the extra bonuses - this is the best item to keep over any reactors. It's 16.5K for x 3 while reactors are only 13K
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>>546993656
I don't think pvp is that fun or worth it but I'm getting sick of emotes
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>>546994147
Hey raider!
Don't shoot!
Hey, don't shoot!
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I think the most obvious solution is just neerfng grey guns. Any other fix is going to completely fuck the game up.

A free kit is literally garbage that Celeste found out back and is willing to give you because you're so poor. The weapon inside should be a rusted piece of shit that jams, can barely hurt shields, and chews through ammo.

Bringing it up to level 4 should make it actually usable
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>>546994113
How is expedition worth doing? It can take 30-50+ hours to get a strong line-up of BP's.. maybe if it only randomly wiped half of them
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>>546994241
>let's make free kits even worse at pve so the only path they have is rat
retards the lot of you
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>>546994241
just increase player health and double shields lmao
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I NEED PILLOWS
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I'm a Brazilian playing on south america servers
I usually don't PVP and try to help others around, so I thought that other Brazilians would be cancer
but no, it's the fucking Argentinians... what a bunch of cock suckers those retards are, it's always a free kit argie trying to ruin every fucking game
>>546951257
both surveyors I killed was with a grenade to open + anvil shots
they dropped pretty fast
one dropped a bp, but nothing really good
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>>546994374
A bit lame, but you could always just save a bunch of copies of important/favorite BPs, transfer them to a buddy and then transfer them back after wiping.
Or if you want to be turbolame, multibox :)
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>>546994147
im runnin into too many people who dont have mics and low and behold they shoot me and its a console nigger
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>>546994241
Grey ttk is an issue, but maybe just buff higher tier items a little. I usually win out against a nade/stitcher spray even if it's sneaky
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>>546994374
The game is playable without BPs.
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>>546994626
This would be feasible if I was lucky enough to find duplicates of bps I want the most. I can't even find the first copy of most of them
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>>546955312
>>546956391
>>546956819
I wish we could trade our 'seed' for Celeste feet pics
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>>546994939
Yes, but they are some of the only tangible upgrades that change how you play the game.
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>>546994241
I'm not sure that's the 100% correct fix but you are definitely right that it's super delicate. Wrong fix here could have huge knock on effects. I lean towards making free kits spawn without shields but restricting the weapons is also a good idea. Either make them a dedicated junkgun they always spawn with or give them the hairpin. It's strange that the one gun of all of them they actually should spawn with is the one gun they can't spawn with. That would also let them marginally buff guns like the rattler without making the problem worse.
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>>546994939
If they did this merit event once a season and stuck a few semi-random blueprints in it (random gun bp, random usable bp, etc) then I think a lot more people would be inclined to wipe. Casual players have been really slow to find the bp drops compared to the poopsockers so none of them are interested in resetting because of it
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>>546995201
do they change how you play the game? until they do a complete overhaul of gear balance I don't think so, I suppose you could argue the epic augments are the only exception
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>>546994374
Right now I think that the answer is no. I think that the only reason to wipe is if you want to invest in the long game and hope that they make changes like
>further increase wipe buffs to actually incentivise wiping
>rebalance the skill tree so that the extra skill points matter
I started late and am barely level 20, but I'm going to try to complete the expedition. I figure that if they fix the game then resetting will be worth it in the long run. If they don't fix the game, then I'll enjoy this fotm while it lasts and then move on to something else.
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Fellas, I got the legendary hook shot gun from the live event thing. Is that an item you need a blueprints for down the line, or do one if the work benches allow you to craft it at some point? I'm too scared to bring it
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>>546995720
Unless they completely change drops/balancing bp's are some of the only loot to be excited about rn
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>>546995540
Nta but I don't see what the harm would be. Killing people isn't even the goal, the goal is to loot up and leave. You just need to be able to do enough damage to make someone reconsider trying to ape you- which is already more than possible with a level 1 rattler.

Free kits shouldn't be the "I want to pvp but I don't feel like risking a real kit" option, they should be the "I am literally too poor to afford a gun" option. All it takes is one successful extract to have enough parts and money to fund like 3-4 custom kits.
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>>546996175
It's a bp
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>>546996175
i just sold the 2 free ones kek
not worth bringing in
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>>546995540
I think that the starting point is buffing shields. Just make players as a whole way more resilient while buffing arc damage appropriately to keep things about even. Then you can turn around and buff some of the higher rarity guns as needed.
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what are you supposed to do when it says Harvester
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>>546996175
You can still repair it, you just have to not lose it.
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>>546996359
thanks
>>546996487
based
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>>546996279
yep this is exactly right. free kits being a legitimate way to pvp because the grey weapons are simply too strong is not correct. that's really the only reason why free kits are as strong as they are right now, kettle and stitcher are simply too good.
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>>546993656
>shoots you in the face
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>>546996279
Free kits are my "I don't want to wade through a dozen menus and recraft all my weapons/upgrades/mods right now"
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>>546996175
You can keep it in your ass and only use pull it out for a few moments when you want to climb something. The grapple range is ~20m
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>>546996497
run to queen, kill her or go inside the little rocket thing. there's like minigame
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Rather than nerfing kettle and stitcher they should just make them green and take them out of the freekit. Make a new shitty grey weapon to share the freekit pool with rattlers and hairpins
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>>546996279
>the goal is to loot up and leave
nuh-uh, the goal is to have fun
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>>546996631
Freekits should be soft lock prevention and nothing more.
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>freekits are only available if you character's net worth in terms of cash and stash value is less than 100k
I fixed freekits.
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free loadouts shouldn't get grenades and should always just get: a flute, 2 bandages, 1 shield recharge, and a random colored glowstick, or the arc raider fake flare
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>>546993656
>>546996615
had a torrente nigger do this a couple minutes ago. I had the last sentinel core and rusted gear for my gunsmith upgrade and only one safe pocket slot so I wanted to try and befriend him only for him to run up to me, spam crouch as if he's friendly and then magdump me with the torrente.
check his profile and it's naturally a t*rk roach on the NA server.
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>>546997218
yeah dont trust crouch spammers. learned my lesson
did he have a boba fett/torpedo outfit?
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idk about you but if I'm loaded and I see someone roll up to me I'm gonna just kill them.
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>>546997330
It may have been a ryder but I didn't pay enough attention since we didn't make eye contact until he ran up
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>>546974176
How are you faggots real?
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>>546996990
Then give me loadouts I can autocraft it's that simple. If some nigger with a kettle or stitcher murks you, you deserve it
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have they announced when they’re adding more?

been saying for a while now this game needs it
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If they want people to reset they need to buff the bp drop rate.
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>>546997731
no they don't they need to buff expedition rewards or just let you keep blueprints
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>>546997675
Next update will be December 19th (:
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>>546997731
fix the quest rewards honestly.
early on the quests were giving you those simple nade ones and now its just fuckin useless fuckin bullshit like glowsticks
give us exp and more blueprints from them
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>people already complaining about expedition rewards
do we even have clear sight on the actual rewards yet or is it 100% skill tree fear projection
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They should add an augment that auto-disenchants all your gear into crafting maps when you get downed
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>>546997837
thats a good idea. "Quests" are a joke rn
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>>546997803
yea yes

but will there be more
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>looking for surveyors
>six 17 minute spawns in a row and they've all fucked off ages ago
the desire sensor is working overtime, i see
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>>546997963
I haven't looked hard at the trees but most branches don't seem very impactful outside of the initial pips
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>>546996545
Good to know, thanks
>>546996720
I did that for three raids and forgot to use it, one of them I needed to extract with my first blueprint too. Shit had me fucked up
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>load in
>doing quest
>10 mins in have to take a shit real bad
>8 mins to shit
>come back, still alive
>finish my quest after looking in the wrong building for another 2 mins
>last extract is 1064 km away
>only one adrenaline shot and 4 mins to go
I had plenty of time.
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>>546997778
I dont see them letting us keep bp. The idea is that the raider is leaving and that a completely new individual is taking their place.
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>>546998261
Imo the only nodes that matter are the fast breach, double loot reveal and loot speed nodes. Based on the YouTube comparisons I've seen, every other node has like 1/1.5/2/2.5/3% change to the stats they say they buff- aka completely useless dogshit
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>>546998324
the obvious solution is to give us a number of things to "pass on" to the next one. 1/2/3 BPs, maybe a stack of items or two.
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>>546998449
The problem is that a lot of them have invisible effects. Quieter looting is actually really fucking good... you just never get observable feedback because you'll never know about the guy who didn't hear you because you had it. I feel like the skill tree is full of nodes like this.
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To the freekitten wearing the grey costume with the large visor.
Death to aggressors. You are scum. You decided I was KOS.
I decided you were food for my anvil
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>>546998273
The blue looter augment has two ass slots >>546998282
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>>546998579
seems fair
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>>546998803
I didn't mean to quote the second guy
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>>546998943
You just wanted to make sure you had two posts in your ass slots
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>>546998794
>freekitten
*snap*
Yep!
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>>546998628
I run around like a retard and chat up everyone and pvp is still extremely rare for me. give me some different examples of these invisible effects
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The blue looter augment is just the best one to use early game.
>huge loot capacity
>most runs are uneventful and the loot storage lets you make bank on average
>anything of any true value gets shoved up your ass.
>if a nigger mugs you, then they only loot generic pile of crafting junk#63588317.
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Schizo theory incoming
>Loot has x% chance to be a BP
>After rolling for bp, roll for y% chance to decide which BP
>Bettina chance is bugged, so most BP rolls turn into Bettina
>Embark notices that people are progressing super quickly even though the BP drop rate has been effectively nerfed by the Bettina roll chance since launch
>Silently fix Bettina BP bug, then nerf BP drop rate to be equivalent to previous chance to drop a non-bettina BP (x% * y(Bettina)%)

Evidence: I found a fucking million bps and dozens of Bettina in the first two weeks, and hardly any BPs at all after
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>4th raid in a row where I spawn in over 10 minutes after start
Yeah I'm done with this shit
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>looted a surveyor vault of some guy
>still have yet to actually see a surveyor once besides the blue beam in the distance
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>>546999635
After 40 hours of play I would assume only 1 spawns per map. Bring nades
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>no destructible environments
genuinely why?
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>>546999863
Yeah I gotta go hunting for it, I keep expecting to stumble on it while doing other things
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>turkroach betrays me
>exit camp someone the next raid
you did this, roach
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>>546994391
>>let's make free kits even worse at pve
Literally every gun in the game can easily kill any normal bot if you aim for thrusters, what are you talking about
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>>547000151
too much for the server to handle with all of the players each map supports
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>>547000151
Probably too challenging with arc spawns and pathfinding. Not to mention potential performance issues

I do think some surfaces should be wallbangable tho
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>be friendly
>extracting
>guy walks up to me
>get shitblasted by a venator IV in in my head before I can even even respond
learning moment but holy fuck that needs a nerf
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>>546999531
feels like the only BPs I've found post patch have only been on night raids
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>>547000676
I found silencer 2 in a gas station
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>>547000151
got to run on Steam Frame, Gaben is holding us back
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>>546999863
>>546999635
2 remote nades and a single shot will pop one
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>>546998628
You don't notice quiet looting because it doesn't work retard
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>>546978839
>>546978260
Finally found a bp in 2 runs in blue gate, thank you.
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fucking idiots in stella keep dying because they refuse to spend ammo on shredders and let it chase them during pvp fights
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my friend started playing way past me and is on the stage where hes doing loot runs on maps and showed me all the spots
is that how everyone here is playing? just farming the same fuckin spots for shit?
is that where the fun dies?
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>spend 5 minutes making just a basic green loadout
>die

>freekit
>best runs of my life
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>>547000571
Both the venator needs to be gutted, and ttk needs to go up as a whole.
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>sprayed down by venator rats 3 matches in a row
I'm close, I'm feeling it
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>>547000571
felt bad doing this with a torrente earlier, ttk needs to be increased in general
>looting ruby apartments
>hear some guy stomping around in the floor below me
>pull out torrente and wait
>he comes charging in
>light him up and his flare pops before any human could possibly react
I felt bad for doing it but it wasn't personal
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>>547000151
Too much work, the game is clearly a half assed walking sim first and foremost. Entirely reliant on tense player social interactions to make the game enjoyable
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>>547000571
It sucks but I outright refuse to hit the console. Either I knock somebody and force them to do the console while I keep watch, or I just sit in a bush and wait out the 2 min timer for auto extract.
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the damage reduction of every shield should be doubled and i am serious
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>>547002173
they already had very robust destructible environments in the finals
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>murdered within 3 minutes of spawn by a stitcher 1 in boba fett armor
is this the new trifecta?
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>>547002236
Heavier shields should be increasingly resistant to lower caliber ammo too.
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>>547001990
Torrente TTK honestly make sense when the conditions are right, it's basically a shotgun that you cant raise above low cover
Venator can down in 0.5s at any range, it's completely retarded
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>>547002236
And freekits should get a grey shield with current green shield stats
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>>546999537
You're a rat, and the MM algo knows it.
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>>546982362
You keep saying that, but what games have lower ttk? WoT? WoS?
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>>547002470
I met a stranger at extract, and he was friendly so we both hit the consoles. During the 4 second timer, I gunned him with a stitcher II I found on the map to get my light ammo damage against Raiders challenge, and I couldn't believe how quickly he dropped. No wonder pvpers love that thing so damn much.
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>>547002927
You need to compare it with third person shooter games, not first person ones. You can't have fast ttks when everyone has an approved wall hack
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>>546974090
I farmed them on Dam
near red lake
you might get shot in the back in any map man
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>>547001754
free loadout is the real roguelite experience
there needs to be a free load out only map

allow us to craft ammo in raid too
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>>546947541
I only have 6 blueprints so far and venator was like 2nd or 3rd that dropped, is this bumass pistol actually that good
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>>546974115
Solo is for immersion, trios is for doing goofy shit and pvp slaughter
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so here's my conservative plan for bastion and bombardier kills
>bring a hatch key
>find a bastion or a bombardier
>wait for the timer to run low so less people around
>showstopper into deadline
>loot and scoot to the nearest hatch
how about rocketeer?
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>>546974115
The game is most fun solo
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>>547004204
wolfpack
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If you duo with a teammate do you get put into duo lobbies or does that not exist?
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>>546999537
I feel like if you're loading into a match with 10 minutes left, you're being assigned to pvp duty. No reason to loot empty buildings, may as well lurk the remaining exits.
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>>547004053
Yes. It is broken as fuck. The bullets do slight less than half of the avil's damage, but it fires two bullets per trigger pull. Medium ammo is abundant and you can spam fire the thing like crazy. Also it only weighs something like 2 weight units.
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>>547000151
>someone accidentally aggros a Bombardier
>It completely annihilates 1/5 loot spots on the entire map
Seems like a dumb idea
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>>547004587
For what purpose? The valuable shit will be in other players' asses. What do I get for ganking a player? Another pile of crafting mats that I don't need?
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>>547004587
I think it's the other way around, late lobbies are unpopulated and pretty chill
Fresh lobbies are a bloodbath in the first 10m
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>>547004973
If its valuable enough to care about dying its valuable enough for me
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the AI soundtrack they released is better than the game itself
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>>547004382
https://arcraiders.com/news/duo-and-store-update
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>>547004973
Fair point, but what am I going to do, search the dregs and leave? I might as well suicide run up on somebody and get a full bag of garbage instead of hoping I find an unpicked building. Might get some good weapons, consumables, and anything nice that couldn't fit in two ass pockets.
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Today was a good day.
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>>547005419
based rat chad
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>>547004914
you don't have to make everything destructible, explosions to create holes in walls is enough
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>>547005550
I didn't even rat per se, the actual story is quite hilarious, probably the highest IQ play I'll ever have in this game. I'll post it when we get a new bread.
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>need mushrooms
>keeps spawning me across the map next to the Testing Annex

>need stuff from the Testing Annex
>spawned in the apartments
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>>547001735
People are playing this game in very different ways. Your friend is doing it optimally, but I'm always doing different shit going to different maps based on conditions and what I want to burn from my 280/280 stash. I haven't even been up spaceport's tower yet but have killed a matriarch there with a lobby. I barely loot at all and just do trials or kill arc. Not optimal but fun.
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>>547005989
There's a spawn on Dam, right next to the dead baron in Wreckage location, that's right next to Annex. There's a hollow log with 3 shrooms inside.
The other shroom spawn is at Water Treatment anyway, why are you mad about spawning at Annex?
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>>547001735
uh yes, most "gamers" today dont play for fun just to beat everyone else for attention points
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Someone make a new thread, where the hell is that guy who kept complaining about other people making threads when we need him?
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>>547006236
i get it. but im still doing these dogshit quests hoping for cosmetic rewards. think i get a succulent plant now on one.

like i get wanting mats later on because eventually you need all you can to take down the big niggas
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just lost all of this to a rat after killing queen, thank you for being a nigger
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>>547006292
I thought they were in the hydroponics area
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>>547007053
Never seen them there. Water Treatment is super inconsistent as well, the spot I mentioned and another one at Spaceport always have 3
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>>547007049
forgot pic
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>>547007534
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>>547007534
new raid
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>>547004973
sell the mats you loot and buy from vendors retard
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>>547003481
I unironically have no idea, hence why I am asking. This is a shooter with the longest ttk except for world of tanks that I have played.



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