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North Line Update has arrived - New Map Stella Montis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9JeiBAAey4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVfTtOrRuFU

>News
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/duo-and-store-update
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/north-line-update


>Resources
https://arcraiders.com/en/news
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19IQX87jrhY-Sg41a2lm5lKrVJzwwc21gzF5i9SRnhM4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Check the bottom of the docs!
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This thread will be free of Kettle slander
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2nd for KETTLE SUCKS XD
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Killing oblivious faggots as they're trying to solo big ARC never gets old
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okay someone needs to tell embark that the olives are already pickled, this can't go on
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first for impregnating celeste
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mandatory chemical castration for ratting faggots during harvester events would be a good political choice
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just lost all of this to a rat after killing a queen and to really rub it in my face I didn't get the achi for killing her
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Anybody else feel like Embark blew their load to early dropping Stella Montis so soon after launch? Or is the entire thing a cash crab and they just wanted to make as much money as possible upfront?
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>>547007819
you will never be white
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>>547008382
Could've delayed a week maybe but I already felt the game getting stale.
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People who have been betrayed will go on to betray other people down the line as revenge, this is a downward spiral of turning the game into a full blown PvP war where you can't trust anybody.

It's up to you to break the generational trauma and just be friendly.
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which costume do I buy with my munnys?

Bog walker, torpedo, drift walker, or Hawker? I'm not a KOSer so I don't want to accidentally pick what the community thinks is the PVP on sight costume like the balaclava has turned into.
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>>547008529
> I already felt the game getting stale
Dam, yeah Im not sure how much longevity this has
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>>547008560
beekeeper
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>>547007930
We've all seeded her.
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>>547008560
Wait until Thursday, there's gonna be a cosmetic drop probably.
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>>547008560
Whichever look cool to you, I like bogwalker and driftcoat
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I can't bring myself to camp extraction, but if I were a nigger I would stack a bunch of wasp drivers on the floor next to the elevator button and watch from a distance with an osprey. When prey comes to hit the button, I'd shoot the a wasp driver to trigger several hundred damage worth of explosions.
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>>547008560
I like Boonie, it looks good, practical for what someone scavenging the outdoors would wear, and the variations are fairly versatile. Though I do think it looks a lot better on a female character.
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>>547008382
There's supposed to be 12 maps. Stella is them saying
>look everyone we're actually updating the game

stop dooming
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I've understood how to farm attachments (residential) what about weapon bps and general bps like medium gun parts
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>anime arc as the OP
Finally, I knew this day would come.
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>>547008818
naur I don't like that one
>>547008942
Oh I didn't know they were gonna drop new skins constantly. Is it every Thursday they reset and they add a new cosmetic?
>>547008979
Ye both do look cool. I just didn't know if one was seen as a "this guy is a bastard pls kill immediately skin" like the balaclava/ shiesty fit that ppl wear.
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I think free loadouts should be unlimited and the course of action to counterbalance is either be given a grey shield that can be replaced mid match that gives some reduction below green maybe 20-30% and minus a utility or two. Or buff blue/purple shield to either reduce the movement penalty and or increase the number of bullets it can reduce damage on. Blue and purple weapons need a buff and venator reduced a notch to bring it down. Im unsure about the osprey.
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>>547008549
objectively wrong. I'll make it simple for u:
1. around blacks never relax
2. if hear a big booty latina voice saying, "friendly", her spick bf is about to shoot u
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>>547007534
Wasps look like THAT?
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>>547009563
>Is it every Thursday they reset and they add a new cosmetic?
If Finals is of any indication, Thursday is the patch day and store rotations are weekly. Previous ARC patches seem to follow this pattern.
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>>547009502
Anecdotally weapon bps largely come from weapon crates and those raider caches that sound like they have an old stopwatch ticking away inside. I found a heavy weapon part blueprint in the red lockers of the staff room in the spaceport arrivals building. Or maybe it was departure building. I get them confused. Whichever one is more the southern.
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>be me
>friggering with a rattler on buried city
>going about my frigger ways
>some dude is killing a bastion from the library roof
>watch him from a roof to the southwest
>there's no way I can take this guy on with a fucking rattler
>see a rocketeer near hospital
>lightbulb.jpg
>take a few shots
>rocketeer takes notice
>run.jpg
>hear distant rockets behind me
>get back on the roof(a different one, just in case)
>there's a snitch on that guy, too, and the greedy bastard refuses to just go back into the building
>flare
>go over there, grab his guns, finish off the bastion
>had to leave a bunch of stuff b/c weight limit, but I got bastion parts for my hideout
>walk extra distance to another extract so that I don't get ratted on
>extract wtih a rando
Feels good man
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>the last thing u see before ur executed with a punch
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>>547007534
Hey argfags, i was looking forward to playing the game with a friend today, but after it worked yesterday it decided to start crashing on startup (apparently it was opening multiple instances at the same time) and when i tried to reinstall it gave me an error on EasyAnticheat. Anyone else has this problem? (I've already opened a ticket to support).
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2x got killed twice, both times after bringin queen down, I assume it is undoable without a fully white society.
Why do people do this?
Guess I'm not doing that shit anymore, at least I got the achi
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>>547008692
Especially because I lost like 400k in gear today to rats trying to kill a queen or do my quests.
Just makes me not want to play desu
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How much money do you guys bring in per raid (on avg) when running solo? I usually make it but I feel like I may be playing it too safe
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>>547009985
Fug that sounds like a pain in the ass
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>>547010891
Venator IV, med shields, combat augment, 5 shields recharges and 5 green bandages, a mine and/or two grenades for dealing with rats or taking down a medium arc, 40k loadout ish and have like 10 good runs on average
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>>547011053
I just run free and get around 20k on avg
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>>547009736
I stopped seeing niggies once I disabled crossplay, now I only see another type of nigger: the rusnigger.
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>>547010891
Who cares, money is fucking meaningless after you max out the stash.
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>>547010891
If you mean in-raid I keep it simple, anvil and blue augment, shield, bandage, smoke nade
Out of raid, I dont look at value, only loot, a single spring is more valuable to me than 100k ARC dollars
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>>547011168
>Money is fucking meaningless
Objectively untrue, you can kit out a lot from the vendors
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>>547010891
this is the only build u need. having a trash team is not a factor
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I fucking hate Reddit
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>>547010785
Just stop.
Until they make this shit actually worth investing the effort into, it's just a trap. You either kill whoever is dumb enough to attempt the fights, or you get shot while looting/during the final shots of the fight when a tougher enemy is a giant fucking ball of flame that everyone and their ankle biting rat cousin can see.
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>>547011598
I did stop, I just did plants for trials and still got killed for no reason with no loot
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What costume set gives off the biggest "npc bandit" vibe? I'm a solo mostly stealthing around and fighting people when they're getting picked on by drones or don't notice me, so I want to at least look the part for the shitty behaviour
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>>547011540
won't save you from being ratted at all
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>>547010243
what were they thinking with the shit smear
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>>547011547
>tranny grammar
She will never be a woman.
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>>547011547
>>547012009
You will never have real friends though
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>>547012009
Women are forced to use that language in public spaces or the men will ree and silence them.
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I'm pumping every bullet I have into every single Ryder Balaclava I see.
You will not get a response, you will not get a friendly gesture. You will not be left downed. You will die.
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>>547011798
Orange Ryder is the designated nigger outfit.
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>>547012086
Suck my dick
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>>547011798
orange ryder, balaclava on
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>>547012217
you'd fail the vibe check miserably, sorry
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I like orange ryder and im going to wear it and be mostly friendly
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>>547012009
what is tranny grammar
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i don't think the maps are designed to handle as many players embark are putting in but i think it's a server scaling issue. i think it must be cheaper to allow more players access to a node than it is to spin up more nodes to handle the same amount of players. this is really apparent with stella montis.
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Where do you think he is now?
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>>547012839
Freekitting on Stella Montis most likely
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>>547012293
I don't like trannies, so it's okay
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>>547012193
>>547012274
Perfect, cheers lads
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>Celeste herself mentions being able to find a Power Rod in the Generator Hall of the Power Generation Complex on Dam Battleground, but multiple rounds of visiting the room haven't spawned a Power Rod, so it's currently unknown if this is a bug or an intended location, and the ability of the Power Rod to spawn for this quest is bugged.
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>>547013391
It's not bugged I found several, power rod is just a rare drop in any electrical zone
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>>547013391
Thankfully I already found one before so I didn't have to go to that shit KoSnigger map
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>>547013634
Yeah I hate going to power generator, there's always rats and pvp going on. Guess I'll just freekit it and roll the dice until I get what I want.
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>>547013809
Most quests are fucking trash in this game. Anything with a "in one round" which involves extracting with an item is pure aids. It's also nerve wracking having to go around an area looking for the fucking quest item when some shitter could shoot you in the back at any moment. The rewards are trash too except the Hullcracker and Burletta BPs.
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>>547014236
the last quest is bugged or is ultra hard. if you die while you're on it and the key you need isn't in your safe pocket the quest becomes 10x harder because now the key only appears in boxes anywhere on the map
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>>547013178
>tranny tranny tranny
cope and seethe anon, I look more masculine than you'll ever be
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>>547011547
I really should be more mean to women in this game, but in solos I usually just run past and say "have a nice day young lad"
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>Solo exploring for basic materials/prickle pears/basic Arc drivers/random shit
>Crouch sneaking through interiors
>Hairpin only
Why is this so comfy bros?
Yes I get absolutely fucked if a player decides to be a wanker, but it doesn't matter a ton since its just mostly basic shit.
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>>547014236
I hate that quests dont tell you where to actually go. Many times the characters know exactly where something is but the descriptions are pure shit or its in a tiny corner of a huge area
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>>547010231
Based not a total rat chad
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>Stella Montis
>Have a quest in the area
>20 seconds of an AI-voiced character blabbing ceaselessly and loudly in your fucking ears while your teammates are blabbing too, while hearing other raider's footsteps, gunfire, a popper exploding, a shredder shredding all at the same time, on the dark map variant.
Sensory overload holy fuck.
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>>547014964
It's extremely immersive, I guess largely due to the atmosphere and sound quality
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>>547009467
>12 maps
For realsies?
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>>547012441
based
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>Want to wear my fancy pay piggy skin
>It elicits even more KOS behaviour from other players than orange ryder
Pain
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one of the biggest let downs, there really is no (as of now) puzzle or anything beyond getting data
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I think they should make map lobbies a little smaller, but increase Arc presence. Perhaps moreso for Stella Montis. I don't really think they can ultimately solve the spawning issue otherwise for that place.
But in general I think this would improve the game a bit. If not smaller lobby sizes for the exterior maps, than AT LEAST the Arc presence, increased alertness and reinforcement threat too.
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>>547016827
Just dont wear it in black with the vest removed
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>buy game
>running smooth
>sudden huge lag spike 10 minutes in
>alt f4 the game
>unable to reconnect
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>>547016827
the actual outfit is fine, you're just wearing the boring version
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>>547016871
I've just stopped doing it
I have no idea what they were thinking running it for this long with literally nothing in it to progress the puzzle, if there even is a puzzle
It's actually retarded, and such a blunder that it kind of makes you question the competency of Embark being able to keep a live service game like this running with meaningful content
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rats are niggers
rats are niggers
rats are niggers
rats are niggers
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>>547009514
expedition rewards should be an arc sexbot
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Let me craft simple gun parts and give me bps for the others and I'll stop loading in with stitchers
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>>547016910
I personally like Stella Montis as is. When it first dropped it was friendly, became freekit central, and now (at least in my experience) it feels like custom friendlies banding together against freekitters.
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they should make an arc raiders MMO
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>>547016827
>wear my deluxe edition FOMO outfit
>but one of the bright color variants and not the faggy corner camper wetsuit
>always recognized as friendly because I'm trying to be visible
>if others lose sight of me they recognize me later in the match because I look unique
>even when I get mixed up in a firefight friendly solos stop shooting at me quick because I don't blend in
It's just that easy.
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>>547017990
none of this is true
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>>547017990
bright color variant deluxe skin is now KOS for me
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>guy running through stella screaming "I CANT FIND THE CHILDREN! WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN! THEY TOOK THEM! AAAAAH!" while making sounds like he's actually hitting himself IRL
>mfw
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>>547016910
the number of players in the map are fine, its just that the refill* the players with people who join late.
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>>547017990
This barely happens but nice larp
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topside was promised to the ARC 3000 years ago, your great great great great grandparents agreed to those terms and conditions years ago when they decided to play The Finals
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>>547017990
>Wear the bright blue deluxe outfit with yellow backpack
>The same nigger I spared 5min earlier now taking potshots at me from a corner while I'm in the open
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>>547007534
Is lag switching a thing in this game? I was about to kill someone and chased them and then my game got Hella laggy.

I'm guessing it was laggy for everyone else too because it seemed like a lot of ppl started dying to arcs. Took me 7 mins to walk 200m to exit and once the guy in front of me left the server returned back to normal
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does the raider voice thing make you sound like an npc? i was extracting and when someone approached me and talked i swear i thought it was a quest npc or something at first
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>be aussie
>creeping along near the shoreline on the dam map
>hiding in some rocks from drones when I hear footsteps coming towards me
>they haven't seen me
>don't want to kill them cause already have a full backpack
>but whoever it is is gonna see me anyway in a few seconds
>say not to be surprised that I'm behind some rocks, don't plan on killing you yada yada
>guy responds in a heavy polish accent
>"Ohhh yeaaaaah I bet you were HUH bro? Bet you were spying on me weren't you, huh?!"
>lmao alright man sure
>"Fucking untrustworthy australian people you liar pigheaded dogs"
>tell him I'm just gonna walk towards hydro and that I don't plan on killing him
>"Uh huh, yeah okay, MATE..."
>both walking away
>hear him stop moving and take out his gun
>motherfucker
>roll just in time to dodge a ferro blast
>5 seconds later he's knocked on the ground
>just walk off and leave him there
I can't tell if he just hated australians so much he wanted to take the chance to kill one or if he just saw me as a free kill cause I had my back turned but was a very funny interaction
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>>547019158
I should note it was definitely not me. as I checked my speed and I was at 300 mb down and 70 up
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>>547019003
tarkov/rust/dayz refugees are a blight
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should I take this into stella montis so I can use a hatch, or should I just go full ape freekit
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>>547019598
>he doesn't have in-raid key crafting
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>>547016910
>I don't really think they can ultimately solve the spawning issue otherwise for that place.
They can though and its a game-wide solution for every map, no spawns until 10 mins into a raid. Only freekits can spawn late. Its fine if Stella is the labs and you get into immediate action. The issue is as soon as you wipe the five guys in front of you five more immediately spawn behind you in a closet and kill you and this process repeats from the beginning of the match until around 15 mins into the match. Not just for Stella but for all maps, this should never be the case.
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>>547019598
Repair your kit doofus.
Also it's pretty easy to in-raid craft the raider hatch key on the PVP fuck fest that is stella montis
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>>547019598
Mk 2 loot kits are so easy to craft and frankly so are raider keys I think its better to just always run a loot kit rather than a free kit if you have one so you can use ass pockets and carry more shit. I only say to free kit if you purely just want to try pvp for loot
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The fact that stella montis shits out voltage converters like nothing made me realize I can bring 5 showstoppers to every raid. Time to shit on Venator fags
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>>547019325
I don't think a polish guy would be playing on OCE servers.
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>>547018508
Yeah if there was no refill of players at least KOSing someone in the first minute without even seeing their weapon makes more sense, you are making the lobby easier for yourself. But now you just got gunned down for no reason, your freekit with nothing looted going to some random jabroni, and you will get replaced by another freekit in about a minute.
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where the FUCK are the surveyors chat
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Medium Shields should be 50% DR and Heavies should be 60% DR
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>>547020889
Look for the blue line in the sky during night raids.
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Is 30% reduced ads speed a downside or a good thing? Reduced aim down sight time, sounds good, but "reduced ads speed" sounds like the speed got lowered which is a bad thing.
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most economic way to kill leapers?
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>>547021135
its bad

>>547021153
walk up and slap a landmine on it
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Why are people so bitter about being shot at in a pvpve game? That's just how it goes, either spark up a conversation to discern their motives or shoot first.
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>>547021135
most t3 attachments are bad for this reason
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A legendary shield crafted with queen thingies
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>>547010891
blue looting aug, light shield, IV stitcher (extended mag), IV ferro, 5 shied rechargers, 5 green bandages, 5 lil smoke grenades, some other grenade (light impact, snap blast or shrapnel), sometimes I'll also take another 5 shield rechargers and green bands on the ass slots if I need them (if I find something of more value, I swap to the ass slots, I don't mind losing those shield chargers and bands), and around 40 heavy ammo + 150 light ammo
best loadout, I can do almost anything, I can loot a lot, kill arcs, defend myself from rats, and if I die, I don't give a fuck because I can craft everything again with easy
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>>547021135
It means your ADS is reduced to a 1/3rd of the time. Faster ADS = Good.
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>>547021256
Why are you so bitter about getting shit on for choosing the antisocial option?
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>>547013391
It anecdotally has decent odds of spawning in those breachable electrical cabinets that are adjacent to the power rod room
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>>547021256
betrayal makes people bitter, I dunno what to tell you
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>>547021224
>>547021316
>>547021358
Damn I just got this too. Guess I could throw it on a vulcano
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>>547021358
But it says "reduced ads speed" lol, aka slower
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>>547021358
Retard
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I'm tired, nothing matters in this game, no matter what I do some nigger rat camps me and steals my shit, I'm gonna take a break until they figure it out
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>>547021384
kek who said I got shit on? stop projecting anon. And thanks for looting for me.
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woops forgot pic
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What if I just don't want to PvP, what then?
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>>547020680
I wouldn’t think so either but I heard what I heard anon. Maybe it was some random larping as being polish or something. If I was gonna make up the story I’d just go with something more believable like saying they were chinese or samoan desu
>>547021256
The people who get most bitter about it usually trust with their whole heart if that makes sense; they let their guard down completely and then feel betrayed when it bites them in the ass. Not saying you should never trust people, but you gotta always be thinking about the possibility they’ll turn at any second, and the people that get saltiest the most just don’t do that.
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>>547019325
>I can't tell if he just hated australians so much he wanted to take the chance to kill one
that's default behavior for every non-australian
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>>547007534
Damn I love doing Pve Raid bosses and having some nigger backstab me to steal my 5mins of time crafting a ferro 4 and boxes of ammo and green meds.

https://youtu.be/Hws_BQg32wM?si=wbXDAUc7Tv9XrxKz

There's no point to ever bringing anything that isn't Grey to Raid bosses.
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>>547019598
my only gripe is you should have at least 30 shotgun and at least 150 light
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Fighting the exact same twitchy Ryders with the exact same grey or green weapons with the exact same free or green aug with the same utilities and the same empty or junk inventory sure gets dull after a while.
80% of this game may as well not exist.
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Tried all day to get a rocketeer drive and a sentinel firing core, but the more I play the more I run into kosniggers and ratrannies.

It's sobering.
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>>547021256
>press push to talk
>dead halfway through the first word
I would genuinely just beat the shit outta you irl for being a disengenuous piece of shit
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I like you guys, don't queue for Stella Montis
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>>547021879
then it will be forced upon you by a mongoloid
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>>547022179
I'd just hit you before you got through your first words
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>>547022018
just got a free rocketeer drive out of a husk (:
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>>547022207
>All this shit just to get outgunned by a venator or swarmed by freekitters
I respect it
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Most of the complainin' of PvP would cease if they didn't force that many people into a map.
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>>547022207
get ready for my stitcher 4 with attachments
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I think the new thing to do is consistently farm feats so when new raider decks come out you can instantly afford to buy the whole thing.

I want like +10K cred as a safety net
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>>547022018
wait for matriarch, nobody will bother you then. even if the rocketeer is far away - just run to the matriarch fight and aggro it. they'll even kill it for you
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>>547021256
I keep seeing posts like this on reddit
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>>547021950
It can’t be helped then if that’s the case. If only I had the skills to hide my natural, roguish convict charms, but alas..
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>>547022018
i looted like 4 when there was a husk event on one of the maps, thats probably your best bet
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>>547022657
they said they'll reset creds
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Is the Torrente any good?
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>lose all my good gear two games in a row by backstabbers
Suddenly I don't feel like playing anymore, I feel like uninstalling.
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>>547023224
yes, its the mow down weapon. though, I hardly ever run it unless I find it in raid. really heavy
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>"retrieve journal from the northern outpost"
>is actually at the "eastern outpost"
>"retrieve momentos from the apartments"
>is not in the facility labeled "apartments"
Who's the fuckwit responsible for these quests?
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How do augments even lose durability? From being downed? Or taking it from a knocked out player? Because if it's only from taking it from someone else then you probably shouldn't repair it so someone just gets a broken augment from killing you
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>>547023224
It's basically the best shotgun in the game
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>>547023262
>being betrayed
how? There's always something off about rats, whether it's the covered up face or their voice
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>>547023262
>meet stranger who has everything he needs to kill you
>>uuhh hi im friendly lol
>trust level 100% and you immediately turn your back on him while his gun is out
Maybe dont be retarded and trust strangers? You can just tell people to leave if they are friendly, you are not forced to team up.
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>>547023262
do it stop wasting your time. You'll thank me in a couple months
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How fast is crouch walking with 5/5 Agile Croucher?
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>>547023658
like 10% faster
you might aswell walk
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>>547023202
Expedition is not raider deck you retarded gorilla nigger faggot. When you get a new deck yoyr creds get reset.
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>>547022738
>matriarch, nobody will bother you then.
are you kidding?
>>547021989
I've been backstabbed during matriarch fights at least 3 times so far.
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here's hoping I don't get backstabbed at dam for the weapon
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>>547023720
Damn.
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>>547023083
>>547023728
>they said they'll reset creds
>creds
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They should add a discrete way to kill someone, amogus style. So I can kill an equalizer/Jupiter fag in a crowd without anyone being sure it was me.
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>>547019325
Saying that you're hiding and not planning on killing someone is too autistic and is going to freak people out. I recognize that an autist isn't a threat and that they'd just shoot me if they wished me harm, but low iq retards are going to take that the wrong way.

Just great them with "hello friend" or "didn't mean to startle you friend". You don't need to tell them your position either. If they don't know where you are, then that slows down the encounter and adds weight to you being earnest in your friendliness since you could have used the initiative to just blast them and you didn't. Some urban youths will still look for an opportunity backstab, but it gives skittish players an opportunity to chill out. Opening the line of communication also gives you an opportunity to gauge them. If they are silent, use emotes, sound dishonest or brown, then you know not to relax. But if they sound genuine then you can probably both abide by the NAP like civilized individuals.
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>>547024023
BROOO do not bring that. It's 50/50 you will be killed for it.

I've been killed for fucking anvils during raids.

https://streamable.com/mk6h8f?src=player-page-share

>>547021989
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>>547024128
Idk about discrete but they should add more executions, I want to hit people with my crowbar
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>>547024261
>>547024128
ppl like you are going to kill the pve and a lot of the player base will eventually quit helping at raids or never bring anything.
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>>547024482
I would find that amusing so it's a win win
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>>547021256
Because the game has a very strong collaborative pve component with a solely pve narrative, a HUGE percentage of the population wants to be friendly, and they're bitter as fuck about the ttk being so incredibly fucking low that being friendly completely throws the fight 90% of the time if the hostile rat isn't completely incompetent.
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>>547024482
>You're gonna kill the game by continue playing the same way it got 700k concurrent players
Ok buddy
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>>547021256
I don't mind being shot at but

being friendly then backstabbing
killing at the matriarch events
and other lame shit is faggotry
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>>547025274
this and the nigga stringy hair are KOS for me
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>THE one first time I ever crafted and brought in a legendary weapon matriarch spawns a rocketeer that directly targets me
>I forget a fucking lure nade
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>>547025589
they can spawn rocketeers? fuck thats metal
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Uhh so where do I get an aphelion blueprint and what even is that
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>>547025107
>being friendly then backstabbing
Actual betrayal, fair
>killing at the matriarch events
Totally normal and expected
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>>547024023
You absolutely will get killed for this loadout, especially since you have jackshit to defend yourself from players with in utility
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extraction camping IS playing within intended parameters but it's such a bitchy, pussy-ass playstyle
That and sniping on some random roof in spaceport, which from my experience describes over half the fucking lobby when I'm playing duos
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I know it's meta or whatever but the venator feels like shit to use and I don't like it. Literally any other gun feels better
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>>547025363
the shitty black killmonger cut? yeah fuck niggers
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on top of all the known and solved solutions like rattler1 etc, shitter ratting can also disappear when they make PVE more rewarding, make big arc loot exclusive guns and augments that work very well in PVP, i dont think any of the purple guns require leaper/bombardier/bastion/rocketeer parts? just the bench.

extremely easy solution would also be to give blue/purple combat augments an AOE spike that triggers on hit, or a showstopper one, ofcourse with a big cooldown. the point is to reduce the cancer of being shot in the back while shooting at a big PVE, you can easily make that suicide to do with the slightest effort.

lots of good gear should really be gatekept through PVE, preferably solo PVE. maybe they should even make a solo arena gamemode with leaderboards like trials and exclusive cosmetics.
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>>547026147
only solvable solution is double patroling/roaming bots or snitchers
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>>547026312
It needs to be level iv for maximized rate of fire.
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>>547026589
I think it was a huge missed opportunity to not make augments and shields that required big ARC parts to craft
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What's the spawn rate of Olives at Olive Grove?
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Some shit's definitely wrong with the numbers on stun nades/cores, it says they're 10s for ARC, but it feels more like 4s. Besides that they just seem to be immobilized as some of them can still attack.
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>>547026868
Yeah it's absolutely not a stun, I landed one on a rocketeer really happy to rush him and melee him only for him to simply rotate and blast me from the ground
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>>547026784
>didn't hide his own name
alright boys, get him
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>>547026721
Olive grove is a misleading name. I think there's only a single olive tree there, but 1000 people watching it with ferros at the ready. There's an olive tree near the chapel at the north of the map that is almost always free to harvest. Can get 2-3 pretty consistently
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>>547027151
Good luck brother
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>>547026721
You need to kick the olive trees.
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>>547026721
You mean the Apricot Grove?
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>>547027221
The trees have random drops, one olive grove run got me all the olives I needed and other times I've been there they've been apricot trees.
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>>547024239
>another cowboy hatter being a piece of shit
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>>547027221
There's at least three trees in the village. One up by the lemon trees in the north, one near the raised planters, and one by the stream south of the town
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>load in with a shitty kit
>shoot 20 ferro rounds into matriarch
>put matriarch cell in ass and leave
I helped :)
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>>547027374
I don't think that's true
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>>547027221
>>547027264
>>547027336
Yeah it seems pretty random, I will check the chapel trees since I never see anybody on the north half of the map.
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>>547027374
They just went hard with the other types of tree that can spawn. For every one olive tree there's like 5 lemon and apricot trees
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>>547026721
Don't bother. Do a lush bloom event and open interactive map and filter "Baskets"

https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
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>>547027552
Like I said, there's at least 3 near the village. There's also one on the top of the hill west of the adorned wreckage.
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>game supposedly takes place in the remains of Italy
>I'm expected to believe Italians could build a massive spaceport
I know this is sci-fi guys but I just can't take this seriously.
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>>547007634
kettle haters are sub-8cpm handlets
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>>547027551
The trees have dedicated drops, but it's random which trees spawn.
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>>547027623
I just finished the lust bloom event map for blue gate but didn't see a single basket. Got out with like 40 Great Mullen though.
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I thought Celeste mentions Montreal on one of the maps so I thought we were there
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After putting 45 hours into the game over 6 days I think I have to give it a bad review.
The only enjoyable part of the game is the proximity chat and tense social interactions of solos.
The quests all suck and there's nothing to do in this unreal engine walking simulator.
The guns all suck and the ARC are arbitrarily tanky, you shoot at them from a building with a ferro 40 times until killing one. Great gameplay.
The quests revolve around finding an arbitrary pebble in a different location than described.
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>>547025363
Those are white boy stoner dreads
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>>547021256
Because I’m just trying to get some potshots in on the queen for trials score you fucking retard. We can bang bang all you want on regular maps
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Haven’t played ack in 2 days.
I is free.
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>spaceport matriarch
>barely a minute after leaving spawn
>someone attempts to shoot me in the back as snitch sees me
>run up baron husk and over wall
>run inside space tower building
>place my zips
>mine it
>mine the interior shaft zipline as well
>hear someone come up my zip
>*BZZZT*
>flare
>place another mine
>*BZZZT* manages to somehow survive that
>placed a SECONDARY mine just a few steps ahead of it
>*PMMMFT*
>flare
>another mine
>*BZZZT*
>flare
>guy is crawling down below
>shoot at the person attempting to res/ko him
>the friendly guy shoots at me
>pop his smoke augment
>he runs inside
>I zip down and zip to the hatch key
>leave
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>>547027972
That's why you use interactive map. I was able to get all the plants for scrappy 5 in 1 raid by just running to the basket spawns on the outskirts of the map on dam.
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>>547027992
You're supposed to shoot the little fans bro
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>>547028004
It's not hot when she's moving her mouth and tongue like she has brain damage
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Every single fucking round I want to do PvP, and either I find good loot so I get too scared, or someone starts being friendly so I feel like an asshole for openning fire.
How do you cross the mental PvP barrier? OI vowed to at least blast everyone I meet in a loot location, then they end up spotting me, friendly'ing and help me kill arcs.
Doesn't help that all this friendlieness is giving me really bad habits such as becoming careless around other players because they can be assumed friendly anyways.
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>>547025997
>Totally normal and expected
That is not normal nor expected you nigger brained faggot
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>>547028232
>PvP game with guns and limited amount of loots
Gee I wonder what's the expected behavior here
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The game audio is a bit iffy on where the sources come from. Is it because it follows the player camera which is so far distended from the player model?
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>>547028186
If you want to pvp but you don't want to be deceptive, when they try to friend you just yell "IM NOT FRIENDLY" before you shoot and you'll feel better about it. I will ambush people all day but if they spot me and try to be friendly I let them know before I start firing.
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>>547007534
This is a fun game but it's buggy as FUCK
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>New augment
>1 x weapon
>12 x inventory
>3 x quick use
>no safe pocket
>weight capacity of 40.0
>specialty: allows a one time revive (a defib is permanently in its own slot that can only be used on yourself once)
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>>547028186
Rat faggots turn off all voice chat so it feels like they're playing NPCs and not real people
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>>547028186
Look for people wearing the Ryder outfit. Kill them. We thank you for your service.
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>>547028482
>don't shoot
>no
>wanna team up?
>no

Their fault if they push after that
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>>547028792
I got downed by a guy and was joking and stuff and he decided he was gonna defib me and I told him not to. He then got really mad when I gunned him down after.
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first time I've ever joined a matriarch lobby where it was already dead
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>>547028186
there's no mental barrier to cross lol. i queued up the game knowing i wanted to kill players and take their loot
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>>547028186
I think of it in term of personal safety
If the dude is far away from me and I'm unlikely to actually finish him, I just let him be
If it's the opposite and I feel like threatened, I shoot
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>augments dont drop on death
>double shield value i.e. 80 for lightshield
>up player health
wow fixed your fucking game
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>>547026036
the key is the setup, there's a building you can zip up to and position the zip's endpoint be over a fatal height. that's what the mines were for
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>finally find my third gear
>finally upgrade my gun bench to level 3
>finally get to use my renegade blueprint and make a primary I enjoy using
>craft renegade, upgrade to 4, give it all my best mods
>queue for match
>spawn in late and get murdered within 3 minutes by some twat with a stitcher 1 who was hiding in a dark corner for who knows how long
Such is life. Enjoy the rifle and pink stock, my friend. I hope you get raped in the ass with all the lubeless vigor you deserve.
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>>547027815
>t. doesn't know anything about italy or italians
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>>547027815
It's probably in the far future, if the game is in 2300 and they started now I could see it
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second game in a row its already dead
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>>547028626
>augment
>deploys a smoke grenade and fires a fake flare when your shields reach 50% charge
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>>547029267
I played 7 hours straight yesterday with not a single PvP moment, even helped out a bunch of people, until I upgraded and slapped a bunch of attachments on one gun and that was the one run where three people attacked me. The last one killed me while I was closing the elevator on the terminal after saying dont shoot, what a dick.

Its like the game puts you in with dicks the moment you bring in any gear at all.
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>>547029486
devilish
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My brother gifted me this game two days ago. We live very far away and we've been playing vidya together since I was 15 years old. This is our first extraction shooter ever and so far, we've had tons of fun.
We get rekt 9/10 times but sometimes we win skirmishes against other players and it feels super fun and rewarding. It's pretty fun to play tacticool and start flanking people, specially when other raiders are already fighting between themselves. Of course we try to be friendly as much as possible but after the 15th time that we just get killed while we're figuring out the gameloop, we just assume everyone is an enemy.
The good:
>sound design is fucking amazing
>guns are extremely satisfying to use, hitting drones to tilt them so they miss shots just feels great
>game looks gorgeous at max graphics
>survival aspect becomes very tense, specially when you have great loot and are about to die. We got into an extraction point while being downed and we both just cheered and laughed like crazy
The bad:
>gameplay loop feels extremely simplistic and repetitive, but maybe it's because we're just starting
>movement can feel wonky at times when there's uneven terrain
>low enemy variety
>art direction feels very mediocre aside from environments and some arcs, particularly in customization. There's nothing in the unlocks or store that would justify paying extra and every single character available seems to have taken 5 minutes to make inside Metahuman
>there's 0 use for loot in the game maps aside from combat or unlocking new areas
>there's nothing really interesting or particularly rewarding about completing quests
Of course, this is my personal opinion at it might stem from never having played this genre before.
Any tips on how improving our experience playing this game?
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>>547029486
>50%
So one bullet worth of damage.
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>>547029568
>gameplay loop feels extremely simplistic and repetitive, but maybe it's because we're just starting
This one doesn't change unfortunately. The game lacks a range of interesting tools/shields/weapons to make builds, and the skill system is basically 1 viable build only.
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>>547028527
ok name 3 major bugs
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>>547028186
You literally just tell them. Shoot at them or use your mic and say im not friendly.
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>>547029568
The friendly stuff is mostly restricted to solo queue. Duos and trios are a largely shoot on sight.

Try stockpiling some of the snitch drivers and then chuck those at rival player groups as if they were grenades. It spawns a pack of of wasps and hornets to add to the confusion once you start lighting another team up.
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Huh. I wonder what this about. I've been KOS'd enough at this point that I don't remember dying with that loadout.
Sure wish it'd been my Anvil IV I'd gotten back.
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>game spawns me in with 18 minutes left
>go to the extract and kill someone in the bushes
>he pleads me saying please please please I didint do anything in the most whiny voice imaginable
>say sorry blame the game for spawning me late and forcing me to do this
>He had a free kit and a fuckton of good needed workshop upgrades
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Next update when?
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>>547029652
I'm assuming that this is after the shield buffs and it is ambiguous if you just chunked weak shields or tickled heavy shields. You're supposed to be impersonating the common augment that deploys a smoke when you get jumped.
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>>547029505
I've been running green gear when I'm looking to farm a specific thing, and I've gotten jumped all day by corner camping venators. I mean I'm somewhat asking for it because I'm making noise, but damn those were some thirsty ass players
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They should honestly get rid of the second wave of player spawns at 20 mins. It ruins the game.
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>>547028781
I watched some Tarkov streamer play Arc engaging in niggery, and what do you know, he immediately wears that outfit plus balaclava and a freekit. As if he was browsing thr´s thread kek
>>547029947
>>547028637
I don't use the mic, emotes only

>>547029136
Its basically always advantageous to peace out with nearby players. If you start shit with someone who was happy just looting, theres little to gain while having to deal with yet another problem besides the Arc. And the only time I cracked open actual loot Pinatas was when I blasted rats at the end of the round for shooting at me.Like they aggregate all the best shit from the people they get. Hasn't happened since the weekend though, at all.
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>spawn with 100k worth of gear
>kill queen
>die to a rat
I'm tired, time to uninstall
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>>547030390
>he still hasn't learned that you should only ever go into raids with greys/greens because every shitter can kill you no matter how many epics you're decked with
I'm barely bringing out my Hullcrackers because of those rats. Need 1 leaper core, 3 bastion and 6 bombardier cores.
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>load into stella montis 5 minutes late
well I guess I'm not getting any loot
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>>547030560
>he still hasn't learned that you should only ever go into raids with greys/greens
then there's no point to loot and anything in this game, then make everything grey and drop the charade that it matters.
At least got an achievement out of that I guess.
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>>547030390
what map?
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>>547030581
It just has legs now
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>>547030660
>then there's no point to loot and anything in this game, then make everything grey and drop the charade that it matters.
That's exactly what I think too, and also why I'm playing other games instead of ARC right now. I'm 100 hours in and have no incentive to grind anything. Deck and live event complete. Expeditions can go fuck themselves for resetting BPs.
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I was doing the quest at the control tower today, and I managed to get onto the balcony outside of the locked room at the top. I guess there's no other way into locked rooms, than using a key, is there? Otherwise it'd become common knowledge and there would be no use for the keys.
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Also Where the FUCK do I find blueprints
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I stalked and killed someone in the Arrival building during a Spaceport night raid. Heard someone else above me so I tried to figure out where he was while I was looting the body.
However, a 3rd raider was nearby and ran through the metal detectors at reception, in pitch dark. I heard him so I killed him. Immediately he cries:
>"ARE YOU JUST SITTING HERE IN THE DARK CAMPING?! FUCK YOU RETARD FAGGOT KILL YOURSELF"
so I just laugh on prox chat, while he screams "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" while slowly crawling away and bleeding out.
His Steam profile was hilarious, too. Took a peek and saw this; definitely some sort of bipolar autismo. Rust players are funny.
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>>547030560
Thank fuck my favorite weapons are the Ferro, the Hairpin and the Anvil (Forma De Silencia Hairpin 2). Easy to make.
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>>547029993
Good advice, currently what we do is that we only engage if there's arcs nearby so it adds a bit of chaos. Gonna try the snitch driver thingy.
>>547029716
Hopefully that'll change with updates. What's the 1 viable build you're talking about?
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>zip down from space tower to loot body
>zip back up
>pops have respawned
>shoot through window
>explosion sets off my pulse mine
>pushes me off
thankfully I had a hatch key and no one was nearby
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>>547030959
time to start trials
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>>547031283
The rewards aren't worth the effort.
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>>547031326
It's a great source of blueprint for minimal effort, I did all 3 stars yesterday in one night
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>>547031234
>Hopefully that'll change with updates. What's the 1 viable build you're talking about?
Mostly the stuff in the red tree that lets you loot faster, craft in match, carry more weight, and open security lockers. The two stamina skills on the bottom left of the yellow tree, and the green skills that reduced the movement penalty for heavier shields, lets you breach faster, and that reduces the weight of your guns.
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>>547031089
robots, lockers, trash cans, and raider containers
raider containers are things like duffle bags and hardcases
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>>547030828
once on Spaceport, once on Blue Gate.
Got killed both times right after I brought it down with a buddy, some rats couldn't even wait for us to kill her and tried to fuck us during.
We managed to defend AND kill her on both of tose times and then overwhelmed after all the darkest gorilla niggers crawled out to end us, didn't even get to get close to the wreckage to even pick a single thing.
This HAS to be answered somehow by the devs or there's nothing else to do in this game besides dropping in with a freekit and just mindlessly shooting around like it's call of duty.
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>50k worth of gear
>heavy shields, smokes, tons of utility
>died to a freenigger with a stitcher before I could even react where i'm being shot from
What's the fucking point of good equipment again?
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>>547031502
No point in farming blueprints when you get can smoked by a guy with a Stitcher and a green shield because your blue/purple shield means nothing.
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>>547031616
queen on spaceport is always ratty, so is blue gate. I feel like dam is the least troublesome for both mat & queen
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>>547031682
its a pvp game
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>>547030560
I lost 2 Hullcrackers trying to solo the underground highway bastion on Blue Gate. First time I got shot trekking up north from Checkpoint to the east-most raider hatch. 2nd time, it was because a hornet + 2 wasps aggro'd on me shortly after leaving spawn and got shot by a raider.

Never again. I'm just going bring a Stitcher and Ferro, and to try to attach a deadline mine on a bastion. I have 3 more hullcrackers but they are never going to see the light of day sadly.
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>>547031682
>>547031640
Case in point lmao
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>>547031593
and breachable containers and machinery etc
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I can't wait until they officially patch all door glitching, that way space port tower becomes a sniper nest again.
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>>547031640
>nooooo i should be completely invincible look my gear is EPIC!!
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>>547031791
Exactly.
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>>547031089
people have reported Night mode on Dam at residential have brought up blueprints
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>>547031390
I don't think there's anything they can do, besides genuinely just evening out the loot fields, removing tiers, making tougher Arc just drop shit like blueprints instead of materials (basically things that are nice to obtain but not a necessity for actual content), and buffing all shields.
That doesn't even sound like a good idea to me either, but there is ZERO INCENTIVE to do anything in this fucking game that requires bigger PvE targets, and there's zero incentive to use what they even get you because ITS ALL WORTHLESS SHIT IN PVP.
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I feel like Im just finding the same junk over and over.
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>>547031682
Right now yeah but they'll obviously patch it
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All it takes is for one RAT to ruin my faith in humanity. Their sins outweighs the deeds of the good. Why is this?
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>>547031984
I'll be happy to go play to playing this all day when they do. Until then I'll be playing Eastwood on BF6 or something (finally a good map in that game).
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>>547031954
you're wrong about everything. there's trials which is usually all about killing big arc. plus you need to kill the big arc for upgrades.
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>>547031726
we bunkered the petrol station on blue gate with about 7 barricades.
On Spaceport we barricaded, locked and mined the tower, some fags tried to zipline us from both sides but I mined that with pulse mines so they just fell to their deaths.
Our deaths were purely after killing the Queen since we had to get out of our bunkers
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>>547031954
Ttk just needs to go way up so that shooting first isn't 80% of the fight.
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>>547031895
>gun that's worth 800 pennies versus a gear kit that's worth 50k
>sub-second TTK on the shitter gun
>register that I am in fact being shot
>die 0.3s later without being able to do anything
...???
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>>547021764
>bitter about being shit
>not getting shit on
it would be fun to use your face like a crayon on the pavement anon
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>>547031234
What >>547031589 said. The rest of the skills are literally irrelevant.

They fucked up with this skill tree. What we should have is a small number of choices, which we can reset between rounds, that has a huge impact on how you place.
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>>547032086
Youre focusing on the negative. I do that too. If people were as bad I think, society wouldnt even be functioning, but it is. This game is a bit of a microcosm of that.
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>>547031895
You. Are. Brown.
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>>547032086
because in real life you cant respawn
trusting someone too much one time and thats it
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where can you see all your blueprints again?
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>>547032190
It's the same shitposter every day. Ignore him.
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>hide around extract
>wait for people to extract
>wait for people to try and kill the extractor
>kill those people
>the other people aren't receptive and kill me too
You're all pathetic, broken balance, no progression system, just a pool of rot and misery. Uninstalling, bye
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>>547030390
>>547031616
>>547030660
>WAAA WHY CANT I BE IMMORTAL I NEED A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE TO MAKE UP FOR MY LACK OF SKILL
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Realistically there won't be any meaningful balance changes to freekits and shields until after this season ends
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>>547032394
nvm
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>>547032419
Just another turd-worlder brownoid or nigger, got it.
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Doesn't tarkov gear have huge power spikes where a newer player will just get shit on because their poop ammo doesn't do shit to players that have been grinding
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>>547032574
Yes, and its awful. Every single person bitching about greys killing higher tiers is nothing but a loud shitter.
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>>547032501
You're not skilled enough to beat players in an advantaged position?
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>>547032501
back to nigkov, faget
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>>547032501
>WAAAA I NEED SHORT TTK AND MASSIVE ADVANTAGE FOR INITIATING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SKILL TO WIN IF THE OPPONENT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT BACK
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>it's another kosnigger
>look up his profile
>a fucking russ*an furry
never beating the allegations, you subhumans
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>>547032574
this kind of shit ruins these games like arena breakout.
Dumping an entire 30 round mag of ammo into someones back just so they can turn around and insta kill you isnt realistic its retarded.
This shit only appeals to skilless MMO mouthbreathers like >>547030660
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>>547032574
It does, but you still have a chance of fighting through positioning, careful aim or just demolishing someone's legs if you manage to get them out of cover.

It's a much tougher fight than holding W after headshotting someone with a ferro and finishing the job with a stitcher because you get better performance for less investment for some fucking reason.
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>>547032574
They're not supposed to be going head to head against geared opponents unless they're actually talented and are capable of precisely targeting weak spots in the armor. There is a whole map of loot and npcs for them to fight and farm until they have good loot themselves.
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>>547031984
nerfing grey weapons to make them unwinnable builds like other extraction shooters will kill this game
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>>547032190
Unfortunately it seems like a very tricky balance to find. We want our gear to be worth the investment but we also want players to have a feasible chance of winning fights against each other no matter the gear. I think they need to find a balance between buffed shields and buffed ARC that manages to completely disincentivize freeniggering pvp immediately after loading in. Maybe give hornet drivers and stun mines some anti-shield capabilities? That way you can bring gear to wipe heavy shields or if you're a freeloader you have to at least hunt bots for a bit before you can take down a geared player. Or some other point idk
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>>547032974
The freekit niggers are not supposed to be powerful pvp kits. They are an anti-softlock system. Use a custom loadout.
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>>547029729
falling through floors. falling through doors. getting stuck when entering doors in Stella. Randomly not being able to walk over a tiny pebble
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how is extract camping even fun?
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Anybody need a Venator BP? I'm looking for Light Gun Parts I guess.
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>>547033062
Stick to World of Warcraft or Tarkov
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i mostly like the way the balance is, just so long as things are brought slightly into line. a stitcher shouldn't be better than most rare/epics
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>>547032805
>rat killing people from bushes talking about skill
lol, lmao
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I'm just hoarding purple crafting loot for expedition. Is that a good idea?
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All the grey weapons should make a loud clinking noise when moving from them being scrap guns, even if you're crouching
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>>547033089
same way fishing is fun
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>>547032974
Grey weapons need to be more like the rattler, shit at tier 1, but serviceable after being upgraded. Kettle is a beast at T1, so is Stitcher, a lone Ferro is probably not a threat, but it's a great sidearm for something even at T1.
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>>547033089
Because it makes shitters mad and you get a constant stream of opponents
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>>547019598
how does a kit get damaged?
Also, would anyone be interested in gaming? I'm on my final upgrades for my workstations, mostly need bombardier and bastion cells, as well as one last surveyor vault.
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>>547033270
RNG chance to jam. Freekits are for hunting pops and wasps. They shouldn't be remotely competitive for pvp.
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>>547032974
>>547033038
I do think grey weapons should get slightly nerfed, shields should get heavily buffed, and gear should be more prevalent as the equalizer. The game offers a ton of toys to fit in your bag of tricks and you can even craft a lot of them in game if you have the perk. If freeloaders want to pvp then they should have to invest in the field crafting perks and scrounge for resources to make what they need to kill a player with a real kit. Being able to camp and win simply because you shot first with a ferro or stitcher is the real problem and it's completely retarded.
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>>547033239
I have a gorillion complex gun parts and exodus cores from seed trading and having nothing to craft with them. But If you want to maximize gear value and space maybe upgrading hullcrackers is the play, or stacking those magnetic purple things
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The schizo who wants everyone to be equally strong in PvP is here again it seems. He's gonna shit the place for the next several hours.
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Free loadouts should have even worse guns and they should really stand out, no skins.
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>>547031502
I keep being told this but have literally not gotten a single bp from maxing trials each week.
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>>547033038
Buff shields, nerf headshot modifier to 2.0 instead of 2.5, decrease grey/green usability and reduce firerate increases from upgrades on most guns.

Bigger TTK = time to react without entirely devaluing ambushes or initiative
Shittier greys = a reason to gun the good stuff.
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>come upon two teams fighting
>nearest team is firing on others beset by arcs
>figure they're the aggressors
>gun them down
>they're asking for revive on the ground but the other trio is approaching
>tell them don't shoot
>they're gasmask retards, immediately open fire
>gun them down too
>turns out I killed the wrong team initially and it was the far team that was the aggressor
fugg.

Also Renagade is really fucking good.
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>>547033432
>because you shot first with a ferro or stitcher is the real problem and it's completely retarded.
its realistic thoughbeit
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>>547033485
Hairpin 1 and rattler 1. No grenade items. Exclusively spawns late.
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>>547033485
I don't think freekits should get forced into any particular skin. That's retarded. The other suggested nerfs are fine but changing your look doesn't make sense narratively and also won't go over well with paypigs who like to buy clothes for dress up.
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Free loadouts shouldn't have a gun at all but they should have no friendly fire unless they loot an arc you killed
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Equipping a free kit should have your character constantly spam a voice line where they say "I'm Gay!" so it gets on everyone's nerves and no one wants to be friendly to them
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>>547033485
simply making them all look the same would be the only nerf they need. People would hunt them on sight and they would barely be able to kill anyone since nobody will trust them enough to turn their back to them
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>>547033640
Third person cameras are unrealistic, and it's poor design to have such fast ttk when everyone has a built in wall hack to peek corners with zero risk.
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>>547033640
This isn't a realistic game in any other mechanic, so why would realism be a boon here?
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>>547033725
>PvP immunity in a PvPvE game
You should never make or talk about games.
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Is there no cheevo for helping kill the Matriarch? I didn't have a big gun but I was plinking its leg joints. Was nice to see the whole raid come together like that, I even got out with a Matriarch Reactor.
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>>547033679
I don't agree, paypiggies are not more just because they paid for a skin and get to ruin the game for everyone because they can't wear their monkey suit.
Free loaders are scavengers and they should stand out.
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>shoot someone in the face
>"hey good fight man. sick headshot. see you next game"
>stealthily gank someone before they know what even hit them
>"YOU RAT FUCK. YOU'RE SCUM"
The chad privilege is too real, bro. We're good at the game in our own way and it's treated like a sin.
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>>547032974
>We want grey weapon unusable
Nobody said that or want that, but there should be incentive for bringing expensive kits rather than spamming free loadouts
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>>547033801
It fixes only the backstabbing issues, not the gear performance that's the actual issue. It doesn't stop freeniggers from sitting in a corner and beaming a guy in 0.5s before he can react.
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>>547032626
They're pvefags that got their hands on purples and suddenly want to pvp. I don't find myself dying to shit gear because I'm not shit.
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I'm tired, boss
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>>547033986
It's extremely noticeable on the ferro
I havent tried it on the Osprey but it could be that the scope animation is separate from the ADS animation
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>>547022469
Nah I finally lost it to 3 guys who teamed up after like 8 games.
>didn't see a soul all game
>go to extract after running security lockers
>3 dudes pull up in voice chat all talking to each other, say they are friendly
>i say im all good just looking to get out
>one of them noticed the silencer on my shotty and said "dude he's kitted"
>they talk for a little bit
>one of them turns to shoot me, i down him, i down one of the others, the last guy got me
It was all good fun though, they made it more funny than assholish by saying shit like "he's juiced take him out" as if I was some boss they encountered and all laughing. If I finished the third guy i was going to let them all extract with me, but alas.
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>>547033434
Upgrading hullcrackers does seem good but no idea if that's even tradable for benefit. Let me check.
Yeah so for Combat Provisions that seems best to turn money into Hullcrackers from Tian Wen. And save seeds for the other provisions. I guess I'll stop trading seeds for all this purple crafting loot because I have so much.
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>>547032574
I just think the TTK needs to be higher, it'd solve the ambush = free win aspect and forces the attacker to chase, making them have a disadvantage
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>find snap hook in space tower
>jump off roof for the second time
>think I'll finally catch the wall quickly enough and bungee jump safely
>hit the floor again
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>>547032501
>NOOOOOO I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ENGAGE IN THE SYSTEMS THAT SET THIS GAME APART FROM OTHER SHOOTERS
>I'M SKILLED, SO SKILLED IN FACT, THAT ANY DEVIATION FROM SHOOTING SOMEONE IN THE HEAD WITH A META WEAPON IN EXACTLY THE SITUATION I WANT THEM TO BE IN SHOULDN'T HAPPEN
>WHY SHOULD ANYTHING MATTER BUT MUH K/D
Not a single one of these "PvP gods" would last playing a game like CS2, that'a why they're here.
>inb4 but what I wanna do is rat
And if I had my way you'd be in an actual sewer, fuckin losers can't pick on people their own size.
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>>547034174
I never see the point in using those, why throw that when I can throw a trigger nade, their shield crackles will give me their location
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So I've checked every car, bus, tractor, weird thing that have wheels for rusty gears what's the trick?
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>>547028000
nigger hair
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>>547030560
They killed me for my Anvil 4s. They're killing me for my ferro 4s still.

Soon I'm only bringing non upgraded Grey's with no mod at all and only a Grey bandage
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>>547034485
In squad play, it's useful for one to throw smoke and one to throw scanner
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>>547033361
As in augment? When you get knocked your augment goes down by 30. 2 times means 40 health left, and then he repaired it to 90.
I recommend not repairing these things because if it's losing durability it means you're losing it anyway.
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>>547034458
The funny thing is that a ton of CS2 and Overwatch streamers went straight to Arc because they kept getting dumped on in Deadlock.
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>>547033640
I don't want it realistic you faggot, I would play WWII game if I wanted it to be
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>>547029267
>>finally find my third gear
Where the fuck are those goddamn things by the way?
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>>547034048
thats fine. It forces them into a boring playstyle and others would catch on fast.
Simply making them wear gay bright yellow outfits would solve all the problems people have with free kits. And they would not be nearly as prevalent
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>>547031682
>no point doing expeditions because you lose bps
>no point farming bps when a stitcher kills everything
How do people like you even get into video games.
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Gonna just take every skill that reduces the noise I make while breaching, looting and try to be a ninja.
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>>547034678
I've gotten downed and extracted and my augment took no damage.
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Should I get this game? How sweaty is solo? I don't have any friends but i'm looking for a comfy time sink. Also how punishing is the economy?
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>>547034001
standing in a corner for 10 minutes and finally opening fire at the unsuspecting guy is not a chad move, schizo
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>>547034780
It's still not addressing the TPP advantages, the guy does not need to be exposed to see me and just strafe and beam my head.
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>>547034590
At this rate those blues/epics are gonna sit in my stash forever because I'm not bringing those when I could get magdumped by a kosnigger with a stithcer/kettle.
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>>547034748
What WW2 game is realistic?
>>547034849
solo is the only fun way to play the game. Otherwise its discord groups killing on sight with an unreal engine walking sim attached
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>>547034624
That was my first thought when I saw it too
But it only mark people for you, not your team, so it's kinda useless
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>>547034754
Cars, buses, those tan truck things, and mechanical loot areas. I just spawned ass naked, searched all the cars and buses near the power generation complex on dam, shoved the gears into my asshole, and repeated until I had three of them. Took an hour but considering I only ever saw 1 in 40 hours of playing normally it was totally worth it
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>>547034958
>Took an hour but considering I only ever saw 1 in 40 hours of playing normally it was totally worth it
Yeah I've literally seen 0 in 70hrs so it might be time to go carjacking
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>>547034927
good players should be able to rape shitty players with good kits
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>>547032974
free kits killing anyone doing anything meaningful is killing the game
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>>547034698
so it's older kids coming to a playground to hit children, wow, what an amazing community
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>>547034841
I said knocked, not downed.
That's why I said if it's taking damage you're losing it anyway.
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>have a 25k promo point run on electromag blue gate
>get tagged by spotter for bombardier at raider enclave
>it follows me all the way to old town
>aggro multiple hornets and a wasp on the way
>loot a probe on the way because im a madlad
>aggro like five fucking pops somehow, two burners
>fighting all of them off madly
>get third partied by a rat
>manage to hit him in the head with an anvil shot, run away like a madman
>slide into cover as a wasp hits me down to a pixel
>manage to survive and extract
fuckin madness. this game is so fucking fun sometimes
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>>547034849
>How sweaty is solo?
On NA 4/5 solos have little interest in fighting you and will help fight AI instead. You just need to learn what to watch out for and be vocal on mic/emotes. Solo is probably the best way to play while groups are team deathmatch.
>Also how punishing is the economy?
Not at all. Some of the cheapest gear to craft is meta and you will be able to recoup most losses quickly.
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>>547035087
Why would I bring in anything more than a blue shield and the same stitcher/ferro combo in the performance of the good gear is shit comparatively? Even blue shields get decimated with just a fraction of initiative advantage, so we're back to square 1.
It's just gonna be shit kit vs shit kit every time because there is no gear progression in a game genre that needs to have it.
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You have done your trials right?
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>>547034754
Pretty much guaranteed spawn at the top of the map on dam, the 2 buses next to the northern extract, breach the trunks at the back.
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Just don't let free kits queue into Matriarch/Queen maps.
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>>547035350
The area with a huge tower to one side? Frequent Rocketeer spawn?
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>>547035334
fuck off cheating nigger, do it solo and not in group
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>>547034849
Solo is the chillest extract shooter you'll ever play
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>>547035034
Yeah do it and finally get it over with. It felt so good to finally be done with it. The buses have the best chance and two of them at the power complex have 3 spots to loot - 1 back panel and two side panels. Plus there are like a dozen cars that can be looted. Best place to do it
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>>547035420
Frequent rocketeer spawn, but yeah just literally next to that northern extract, as in like 10 feet east of it.
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Think long and hard. Have you had more good experiences with players or bad?
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>>547034849
solo is not very sweaty at all, lots of friendly folks and handsless boomers. just don't forget, you can't truly trust anyone
people here regularly use the term kosnigger to refer to anyone who disrupts their hugbox and that's not a minority point-of-view
as for the economy, you get infinite free kits, and half of the weapons you can spawn with on a free kit are more than capable of killing any other player. the stitcher and the kettle are both extremely cheap weapons that are incredibly lethal. there's only three tiers of shields, and each tier is only like ~+15 EHP.
the absolute meta weapon, the venator, is still pretty cheap and easy to craft. everything is trivially farmable
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>>547035449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zl1N4fFsFI
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>>547035567
bad
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>>547035567
cum
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>>547035420
Yeah specifically the stretch of road just below pattern house that runs across a large section of that part of the map.
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>>547035567
90% of my interactions have been neutral to positive. Only been playing for a few days but I've only ran into a few unspeaking assholes.
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>>547035034
>>547035350
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>>547035326
Agreed. If they wanna keep this shit up then get rid of the gear tiering system and have a standard shield for everyone. Then we'd have a PUBG extraction shooter ig but that's what the casual shitters want.
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>>547034849
If you turn off crossplay and play on pc during the hours of the day that gamer dads play, then solo is friendly enough that you'll encounter a backstabbing nigger about once every 5-6 hours. Duo and trio queues are shoot on sight.

Right now the game's biggest economy problem is that there is not an appreciable gap between shitty rusted Grey weapons that you can spawn with FOR FREE and purple gear. Which has led to a problem where a lot of niggers are being nakedly aggressive since they risk nothing jumping people with their free scrap gat. This is more of a problem on console,but there is a distinct trend that you see where 90% of the player killing players are freekit niggers with Grey weapons because the very strongest shield buys you maybe an extra tenth of a second of life. The high loot zones have more consensual/expected pvp with people crutching on the overpowered venator pistol, but at extractions or just any random place other place on the map the most likely person to shoot you is freekit with a Grey gun that outperforms most other guns. There's simply not a reason to use good gear 99% of the time time since the balance is so fucked.
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>>547010231
ethical arc baiting mpk rat
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>>547035116
Well, in the case of Deadlock, some degenerate with thousands of hours in CS could reach low Eternus rank by aim alone. But the moment they had to play macro and actually strategize around timings, objectives, itemization and ability cooldowns, they got shitted on by the higher ranks. For example, the #1 rank in Deadlock for a while was Ana, who is a two time International champion and he doesn't even have good aim.
In the case of streamers, they are subhumans with an ego, so unless they are instantly good at what they do, they will quit the game because they can't take constant clowning from their viewers.
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>>547034943
>>547035307
>>547035521
>>547035578
>>547035791
Okay thanks, i'm downloading it now, got a key for 20 bucks, wanted to know if i'm about to get raped on sight relentlessly. I'm perfectly fine with PvP, I just wanted to know if the PvE part of this PvPvE game is generally ignored by the playerbase in favour of Battle Royale-esque gameplay.
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>>547035087
They will be able to. But it will take good aim, good movement, and maybe some field crafted items instead of simply shooting first with a scrap gat.
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>>547033305
This is pretty much the only solution. It's obvious to me they developed the grey guns first, and by the time they got to the Purples they realized they couldn't make them that much stronger otherwise it would just break the game. TTK is already very high, and ARCs really aren't that tough if you use the right ammo and shoot the right spots.

So, most of the Blue/Purps aren't worth running because the resources investment is too high compared to the value they bring over running shit weapons. Grey guns need OBVIOUS drawbacks like much slower time to aim, jamming, or much smaller magazines.
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>>547035567
More good, but the eggregiously short ttk makes every sucker punch feel terrible since forfeiting the initiative by being nice basically throws the fight entirely.
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Man the worst people are the fags who pretend to be friendly because they know they can't win a fight otherwise. Just shoot me on sight and win or lose like a man. I respect KOSfags more than cowards.
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almost level 75, expeditions basically done, got deck and community event maxed
not sure what to do, a lot of the time i try to pvp as entertainment i end up having matches where i mow down some helpless shitters who make me feel bad on voip, then get caught in the back myself, have really shitty moments etc.
i dont like trials.
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>>547035567
>>547035740
This, and anyone else is either lying or playing in some third world server. Literally maybe 1 in 5 raiders are doing rat behavior
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>>547033305
Absolutely positively agreed.
Rattler upgrades need to be buffed, but other grey weapons need to be brought down to it's v1 level. Besides the Hairpin, of course.
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>still no venator bp
bros...
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>>547036232
>ttk is very high
Delusional
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>spawn into a night raid naked to pick herbs for trial
>get three stars, head to extract
>"i can see you from the roof
>"i wont shoot you, but we need to team up"
>dont answer because hes clearly some faggot larper and/or is just going to shoot me as soon as i stop to answer
>immediately shot by a ferro
>yep
>alerts a hornet and wasp who both start to focus me
>barely get away with a sliver of hp (dont have a shield)
>hear him fighting the bots in the distance
>exfil
>check name
>RunsWithVape
There aren't slurs fitting for the kinds of degenerative zoomer faggots I've encountered in this game.
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>>547036402
Just make the stitcher, ferro, and kettle green
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>>547036481
relative to other contemporary shooters? it's decently high
it's no quake but it's not CS/COD
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>>547034949
at that point just ping through the smoke and it should ping them for your team
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>>547036481
I meant to say fast/low, no need to get upset
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>>547027221
>I think there's only a single olive tree there
Lol no
The problem is that, as everything with this game's map, we 'point' Olive Grove and think that where the name is on the map is where the trees will be
You have to go around; there's a LOT of olive trees kinda far from the 'Olive Grove' name on the map
>>547027551
I got more than 6 olives on one run when I stopped looking for them just where the map says 'Olive Grove'
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>>547036675
You cant really ping someone behind a wall, the entire point of the spotter is being able to 3d spot people you couldnt otherwise, if you just ping a place that defeat the purpose of the nade
On an unrelated note, I feel like live pinging raiders could use a nerf, its very common for people to spam ping in the bushes/smokes/treelines just to get a perfect marker of their position
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>>547036667
There is a mountain of difference between competitive first person shooters, and a THIRD person shooter where players routinely poke their heads into containers.
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>>547033747
I'll go with this Anon's idea.
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>>547036417
I have a spare venator bp
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>>547034580
gotta keep checking, I remembering finding my last when I wasn't even looking for it
>>547034849
It's so-so, solo. There's a new boss lately and map events that are kind of cooperative so you get plenty of moments where you're working with others. Its not that bad
>economy
there are only items you sell (to no one, just turns into cash) and unofficial trading between other players. after a while you build a good safety net and can always subsist off free loadouts
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>>547034919
Sure, but now consider a more likely scenario:
>hear someone approaching your location
>figure out the perfect spot to hide for an ambush
>quietly maneuver there
>pop out and shoot the guy in the back
That player outsmarted the other person, but 9 times out of 10 he's getting called a rat bitch in Arc Raiders. Nah, the shitter acting like a "chad" got outplayed and wants to protect his ego by pretending every time they got ganked, it's because the ganker spent the whole raid sitting there in waiting. Kind of like how you just did with your post.
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This is the balance I want
>wearing blue shield
>stitcher i blasts from behind
>wears down blue shield with 20th shot, lucky bastard got every shot, but no health damage
>lazily turn around saying "oh shit man"
>one shot free kitter on any part of his body with Anvil iv
>drops dead
And I'm dead fucking serious
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hi frens. i'm new. when am i supposed to use my good loot?
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>>547036232
>>547036232
>It's obvious to me they developed the grey guns first, and by the time they got to the Purples they realized they couldn't make them that much stronger
i'm afraid this isn't true and the current balance is actually their intention, i imagine they took notes from Hunt:Showdown where there is no tiered gear based combat and you can pretty much win with any gun even though the expensive ones have obvious superiorities, but thats because the game is very skill based and that doesn't work in this 3rd person shit. the TTK is very similar aswell and important in this context, because it really favours this "first shot is a step ahead" play. but none of that works with machineguns. the one thing the rare weapons in arc have is they are capable of not just PVP but also PVE, which is pretty meaningless because pvp is the biggest risk factor for dying
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>>547036893
I didn't think I'd have to specifically mention in the event of a wall
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>>547036848
The problem with olive grove is that it is full of freekit niggers who can't find the olive trees and instead just mug everyone in the hopes of finding olives. The one time that I went there no less than 5 different freeniggers were taking potshots at me. It's safer to hit the other olive trees on the map.
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>>547035334
i am going to slowly show up in daredevil 3 after putting in no effort
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>>547037056
>shooting first is a major achievement
Nigger
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Saving all my ARC coins for a decent hairstyle
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>>547037146
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>>547037060
I feel like that should be the heavy shield but otherwise agreed.
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>>547016871
>>547017126
has anyone tried to start all the downloads at the same time?
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What if they removed the free kit altogether?
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i just murdered a friendly girl gamer and i feel guilty
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The Betinna sounds so fucking cool
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>>547037787
I'm pretty sure literally everything has been tried. We gaslit ourselves into thinking there was a next step but there simply isn't
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>>547037839
She probably will get off to the tought of her raider getting raped tonight because of you
You cant win against women
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>>547037787
Probably already been attempted but if you need people to get the data then you actually shouldn't* do that. If everyone wants their points they should activate one terminal at a time.
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First blueprint in hours
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>>547037836
It's important as an anti-softlock mechanic. But it shouldn't be competitive with rival custom kits. There's plenty of pve and uncontested loot that you can get with a freekit to get you back on your feet. Honestly freekits should be hairpin kits.
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>>547037056
>outsmarted
You people crucify yourselves in every post and you don't even realize it because your condition is terminal.
The only reason you play is to make people mad.
>got a problem with that, chud?
I'm starting to. You fucking losers are so desperate for attention and easy to make "friends" with in real life. I'm going to start doing so then get invited over sometime, observe their gameplay. Rat? Burn their house down with them inside.
By your own philosophy this is the correct move to make, manipulate the situation to get the outcome I want.
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Are some blueprints exclusive to the Queens husk and those secret missions on each level?
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Can those gay ass devs say something about the shield and freeshitter situation?
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>equip heavy shield
>I run like I'm overencumbered always
>the free kit stitcher who shoots me in the back when I lumber into a room says "phew that felt like it took 2-3 more bullets than usual"
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>>547038310
Did you get got by a cheater?
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>>547038323
i dont think other communities are talking about this and are too retarded to actually think about what it means and solutions so it might not get considered
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Grey weapons shouldn't even damage blue and purple shields tbqh.
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Double the crafting and purchase cost of medium and heavy shields, as well as repair costs, then buff their strength a bit,

There, I actually fixed the game for real with an actual thought out fix.
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>>547038382
they dont even need to reload really, i dont know why people keep arguing that stronger shields can tank a full stitcher mag because every player just magdumps + throws nades which are given for free too
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>>547038452
must have. Don't even remember the incident. Nothing struck me as "woah, that was sus" so far in my 20 or so hours of game time. Least I got a free venny
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What are you guys think realistically happens with this game in like 2 months?

I think in two months the solo players are not going to be that friendly because most people are going to be done questing and shit. I think the conversations now about people being mad about rats and KOSers is just going to end up amplifying in solos where most people are friendly now. So while people say that the duos and trios mode is currently just team deathmatch, I think solos mode is also going to just turn into deathmatch too and that's going to be the game until either it shuts down or people stop playing. The casual Allure that this game has because of the friendliness is just going to evaporate.
If they don't do wipes, I just don't see how this game doesn't turn into queuing into death matches regardless of solo duo or trios in just a little while.
But I don't know I've never played one of these extraction shooters before so maybe there is a piece of information I'm missing.
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Grey shields shouldn't even protect against blue and purple weapons tbdesuwanojathougbeitdes
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>>547036912
and willing to part with it?
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>>547038869
TA-RUE
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When do you guys wait to repair your guns?
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>>547037880
>looks cool
>sounds cool
>absolute dogshit
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>1st place on my leaderboard bracket has 128k points already
can we please not help snitch scanner hoarders, this is gay as fuck
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I'm enjoying doing naked runs.

>>547038924
I guess I'm looking for a Light Gun Parts BP. Not sure what else to be going after.
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>>547038598
Retarded ass take
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>>547039014
It's not that bad is it? Just use it on ARC exclusively and have a sidearm for ratniggers
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>>547038072
>>547037939
there has to be something
that one area inside is an elevator 100%
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>>547039070
This entire game is being exposed as gay as fuck. Sub 100K players by Christmas
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>>547038831
If they don't make the wipe incentives good enough for people to willingly wipe, then the game will die in a few months. There's a reason why wipes are a staple of the genre.
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>>547037393
You're the dumb tard that think the only form of skill expression in a game is landing shots. Being able to 1) pick up on subtle sound cues 2) accurately read the current situation based on said sound cues 3) determining the best location to lay an ambush (critical thinking & prediction) 4) quietly maneuvering to ambush location (timing) then finally 5) executing the ambush properly and not choking due to a last second surprise
You shitters don't even CONSIDER these things as skills worth using or cultivating, so when a rat GOD outplays you, in your tiny mind it's "wow no skill" because you're actually so shit at the 50% of the gameplay that ISN'T running-and-gunning, your brain can't even comprehend it.
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>>547039298
it really is that bad, even against arcs its shit you are much better off with any other heavy or even medium weapon
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>>547039298
It's not actually very good vs arc.
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>>547039358
>There's a reason why wipes are a staple of the genre.
Because in those games it's impossible for grey gear shitters to keep up with fully kitted out players. Does this sound like Arc Raiders to you?
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>>547037060
DESU the gunplay would probably be much more than "shoot first" if you needed to reload most weapons to down someone unless you land like 75% of your magazine in the dome.
I am having an absolute blast fighting other freeshitters with a rattler compared to getting beamed on the spot by a fucking venator.
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>>547037226
Haven't experienced a lot of that desu
Even when I was a freekit myself, most of the people, especially the freekits, were far more worried about the ARC's there than interested on killing me
Yeah, there are exceptions, but that's the nature of the game
I found my olives without a freekit btw...
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Remove the cooldown from wiping
Wiping increases your shield damage resist by 1%

Get grinding
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>>547038924
nta but if you have a medium mag III I'll give you my spare venator bp for it.
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Every girl voice I hear sounds the same, just how many trannies are using the voice changer? I'm about to just start killing all of them.
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>update vroke my tianwen questline
>dont see anyone talking about this
Grim. I hope I'm locked out of the other two Aviator colors.
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>>547039081
I have the Silencer II bp too, and Anvil bp
I wanna be self-sufficient running my silenced Anvils around
But I don't have Gunsmith III yet, fucking Sentinel cores... I don't think I ever met a Sentinel yet
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Anyone got a smoke BP? I got this stuff
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>>547039081
fuck silencer bp is the one thing im looking for
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Are raider cache events a good way to get bps? Most people don't even hear or find them
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>>547039786
broke*, hope I'm not*

>>547039808
You can get Sentinel Cores from lootingbARC Couriers, luckily. I got two that way since I got ganked out of one of my legit Sentinel kills.
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New update on Thursday?
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>>547039081
>>547039647
I've none of those I'm afraid
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>>547040079
i think its mostly guns and gun bps (bettina blueprints)
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I need the Silencer BP so bad for rat-like behaviors I could almost suck a dick for one
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>>547039398
>Night raid Space port
>spawn late
>get to Container Storage
>hear tow guys talking
>climb on roof, bide my time
>pop one with the ferro one he steps on the balcony, don't down him before his buddy starts shooting so I skeet and reposition
>other guy zplines up as expected, right into my Stitcher
>downed

I ended up quietly exfiltrating after a nade from below deleted my shield and I ran out of ammo, but this was one of the most fun moments in this game by far. I'm planning for PvP from now on, if I had any traps or nades on me I probably would have gotten 'em
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>>547039786
I had that happen, if you have another quest you can do it should fix itself after you complete that quest. That's what happened for me at least, if it's your only quest then I have no advice. Either way report that.
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Do blocked players appear in your games?
I hope I can block out all ratniggers
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>>547038831
I don't think they're going to address the issues well. I don't think they honestly can. I think we'll see some new content that'll be fun for what it is, but so much of this game is getting tossed into the trash because it simply isn't worth achieving or obtaining.
I fully expect they'll add a PvE only mode. It'll be a gigantic cope. A gigantic admission of their inability to solve the problems this game has.
It'll die, but I don't necessarily expect it to die fast. Probably going to lose players faster than something like HD2 did though, because the PvE just feels like an afterthought (ironically) and the PvP is not good enough to keep the game alive by any stretch of the imagination.
They'll move on to something else like that did with The Finals. Hopefully they'll have learned. Probably not.
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these devs are really gonna make us wait an entire two months with this doodoo balance? talk about an incompentent dev team. cant even bother putting out a hotfix for the broken gun. cant go into notepad and halve the damage of the venator and ship it to live. at the very least we'd go from one gun dominating to 2-3.
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Had a great electro storm game to farm up probes and I get ferro into stitcher by a fucking cunt who is probably extracting at the last second, or on his knees. Holy fucking hell.
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>>547038831
>in 2 months we'll finally be able to play the PVP game the devs envisioned instead of 90% of lobbies being a bunch of Deep Rock Galactic LARPers (who also cry when you do shoot them)
Why do the carebears hold our game hostage like this, bros?
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>>547040795
making a gun hairpin tier is not what I’d call fixing it
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we need to seriously study the black/orange shiesty phenomenon
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>>547038831
I'd prefer the game either becomes a trve gamerdad hugbox or becomes a complete sweatfest slaughter but my heart can't deal with this will they won't they shoot me in the back.
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>>547040079
I think I've found most of my gun bps from them
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>>547040991
You won't be playing then, though, shithead.
The only reason you play is to make others seethe, so what do you do when your "prey" is un-seethe-able? You get frustrated, quit, and move on like a locust to some other game.
I'm not opposed to PvP, but you *only* valuing competitive skill really fucking speaks to how much you have nothing else in your life, man.
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need a map where its free load outs only honestly
that would make it a true roguelite experience
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>>547041164
>making a gun hairpin tier is not what I’d call fixing it
i said hotfix for the broken gun, not that nerfing venator would fix the overall balance. but at the minimum the venator should have been nerfed a week ago. i imagine stitchers and rattlers alongside anvils maybe the cowboy rifle would dominate but at least thats a handful of different weapons rather than one gun dominating the rest. the balance would be in a poor state still but fuck man, what are they doing over there?
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>>547040328
>if you have another quest you can do it should fix itself after you complete that quest
I've done two for Lance and one for Shani, no dice.
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>>547041227
it's niggers, zoomers and russians thinking they are gangsta by wearing a balaclava
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>>547041431
not rattler, i meant the other one. stitcher and the other gun would be dominate in cqc.
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>run into another guy
>he asks if i'm friendly
>go to speak
>words caught in my mouth again
>he assumes not and shoots me
Holy shit i'm such a fucking loser, I don't have this problem IRL it's just game chat that causes me to clam up.
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kettleGODS run /arg/
best remember that
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>>547033358
>opponents
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>Six randoms all attacking the Matr
>I'm in one building just shooting away at it
>Someone comes up behind, nades and kills me
This doesn't work at all. The RNG to get a whole lobby to cooperate is going to fall apart over time.
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>>547041975
yup these niggers are having fun griefing but they are legitimately going to kill the pve aspect of the game
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>>547040579
How much for the Anvil BP?
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>>547041975
Happened to me too. Buttstabbed by an Il Toro. Lost a Hullcracker and 20-odd rounds, plus my kit and shit. Sucks.
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>>547041721
autism lifehack: develop a gamesona and rp as them
my go-to is cali burnout stoner
sup dude. nah man it's been chill. just questin off the cart. haha nah man you can take my shit if you want. ggs man
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>>547042082
I can see why at launch it would work, but I went in with a good gun/nades/shield just for this PvE element and now I have no idea why I would ever bother with it again.
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>dozens of caches
>no bp
the patch notes lied
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>>547042196
that’s the gayest shit I’ve read all week
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>>547042196
I cringed so hard I got a cramp
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>>547041721
Just use the emote wheel, I've been doing fine with it
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5 runs, 3 prickle pears. Zero rusted gears.
Guh...
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>>547007534
>collecting olives on bluegate, finish up and head to exfil
>find a guy on the way, we team up and kill a couple bots that got lured there
>he's the most normal ass dude ever, we chat about work and whatever
>waiting for exfil to come
>he keeps swinging at open air next to me with his crowbar
>not sure what that's all about
>exfil opens, drop into the hatch
>he tries to swing on me and kill me while im typing on the console
>mag dump him with venator
>no mercy, execute him
>bobcat with ammo, 2 purple items and an anvil IV
????????????????????
Why didnt he just fucking shoot me>?
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>>547042196
id shoot you for acting like that because if you're faking that i'm going to assume you're faking exchanges and are suspicious
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>>547042196
I'd rez you just so I can kill you a second time no cap
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My raidersona is a serial rapist passing off as a chill guy to fool the authorities
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>>547041975
>>547042082
I'm about to uninstall. I wanted to fight cool robots with people and I'm just getting another CoD. Fuck this.
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>angled grip 2:
30% reduced horizontal recoil
>angled grip 3:
40% reduced horizontal recoil
30% reduced (bad) ADS speed

...wha...?
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>>547042325
The "adjustment" was to make bps more rare
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>>547042330
>>547042428
>>547042538
>>547042592
haha it's all good man
nah i get it, do what you feel, can't trust everyone
*bong rips into this text post*
yeah i like the taste of flower better sometimes
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>>547041721
Low IQ retards will interpret silence as hostility and/or a way to dehumanize/otherize you and attack, and even more common than that, regular sociopaths will just use asking as a pretense to attack you regardless of what you do or say. It has nothing to do with you.
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>>547042867
>>547042196
ho ly fucking based
my favorite anon in this thread
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>>547042640
What happens topside stays topside, right ? Shani watches, but she only cares about arc.
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i found a snap hook blueprint in a car hood during electromagnetic storm dam battleground. im only level 10 and i need rare mats and an upgraded utility station. i wonder why it wouldnt drop something more easy to craft. does this games rng just whacky or was it because of the storm?
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>>547043192
>does this games rng just whacky or was it because of the storm?
Both.
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>>547042196
lmfao
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>haven't had a BP drop in nearly a full week
brooooooooooos
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after playin duos/trios im scared to do solos because my last few games of solos ive come across way more people that dont use mics or announce themselves
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i wish the girl voices actually passed
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>>547042484
There's this place in Stella Montis right before you enter the tunnel to extract (where the bastion is) that has like 3 or 4 green hull breaches on the wall and they tend to drop rusted gears a lot.
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>go to spaceport with control tower key
>up there looting
>have jolt mine placed at the end of the zipline
>person comes up
>kill them
>they call me a camper and a faggot
>place another jolt mine
>continue looting
>second guy comes up
>kill him
>calls me a faggot camping nigger, i reply with "don't come to my keyroom" and he whines "KEYROOOOOOOOOOM" as i knock him
>dude had 3 augments on him and multiple guns, knew exactly what he was up to
>3rd guy comes up
>again jolted and downed
>he actually seemed like a good guy and i felt sorry that i didn't bring a defib nor did the other 2
I don't understand what people expect when you run into a key room literally 3 minutes after the game started. Did you think I somehow just spawned in the room, cleared it in 5 seconds, and left? Or were you just trying to pvp me, you rat scumbags.
The only thing I brought into this raid were my renegade, white bandages, green shield chargers, adrenaline, and my raider hatch key. Walked out with all this for my trouble.
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>Encounter someone who asks if I'm friendly.
>"Helloooo. Yep, we're good. Just spawned in, grabbing recyclables and shrooms."
>"Alright. You know where to find the medical kits?"
>"Nope, sorry. Haven't gotten around to that stuff yet, still getting all my benches to level 2"
>"Aight, later."
>Shoots me in the back 5 seconds later and kills me.
>Literally just have a Hairpin and a green looter aug.
Alright..
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What the fuck are these Arpeggio+Anvil loadouts I keep seeing? Do dumbfucks just think green equals better?
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i dont even know if i should keep doin quest because i have no fuckin clue where lightbulbs, rusted gears or lemons are located
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I gotta start doing night raids and all the 2x events dog I need BPs FUUCKFUCKCUFCK
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I never do night raids, should I start?
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>>547042928
>you are low IQ if you recognize patterns of mutes stabbing you in the back if you let your guard down an inch
If you get on mic and say "uhhhbhehgbhofuhckha" I will assume you're friendly and wish you a nice day. I don't shoot mutes but just last match I caught one of those balaclava orange ryders off guard with a hello. He said nothing, clearly didn't know where I was, and a minute later he'd looped around to a hill and started shooting at me. But I need to know you are human and not one of Embark's secretly developed machine learning rats.
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Is the Stitcher actually shit in PvP, has this general lied to me? Or is it me whos a scrub? I can't even down a nigger in a single mag with the larger mag attachment and all upgrades.
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>>547043784
>lemons
Wait until lush blooms or go to the stella montis cafeteria. There is a door locked with a fuel cell which has two wicker baskets in it.
>light bulbs
I always find mine in the blue gate tunnels on the right side. Open red lockers and the breach boxes. I almost always find one every single raid if not multiple.
>rusted gears
Blue gate tunnels breaching cars. It sucks, or dam night in the scrapyard. You can also randomly get them from breach boxes in areas with a lot of cars as well and sometimes even find them sitting on top of things.
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>>547043654
game is full of non-extraction game players who dont really understand the genre, theyre all very stupid and misuse terms like rat, camping. its a bit better if you turn off crossplay but its still mostly normies lost on their way to cod and fortnite
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>>547044092
i haven't been to blue gate at all and im scared
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>3rd round in a row where the queen dies or im literally the only one shooting it and cant get the trial
FUCK MAN CMON
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>>547042928
nta but mutes have been bad news in this, i usually just tell them to scram. if they dont i have to put them down
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>>547044235
There's seemingly a guaranteed light bulb spawn in the car at the electrical substation on Dam. You can also get gears at the scrapyard there.
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>leaper trial
>go electro storm dam
>13min late spawn, run to reset because all leapers are dead by this point, 5 minutes of running for reset or closest would be leaper
>10min late spawn, 5 minutes of running for reset
>7min late spawn, only 3 minutes of running for reset
>14min alte spawn, 6 minutes of running for reset
>repeat like 6 times with similar results
>get an only 5 minute late spawn
>1 leaper still alive
>2 is needed for trial 3 star
>actual good fucking spawn in good time
>leaper close, shoot
>bugs out and jump way the fuck away from me
>dies there
first time this fucking game managed to rage me out in 200 hours, this shit is fucking unbelievable, why in the everloving FUCK is there late spawn in a special 2x score map THAT DOESN'T EVEN GIVE GOOD LOOT JUST FUCKS YOU OVER EXTRA FUCKING HARD FOR THOSE 2X POINTS
FUCK
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>>547043784
There was a discussion earlier in the thread about finding gears on dam and if you follow those tips you'll also find a shit ton of lightbulbs because they spawn in the same cars and buses
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>>547044235
Blue Gate is comfy as fuck if you just loop the edges of the map.
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>>547044235
It's the worst map by far.
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>>547043091
>Shani watches
I bet she likes what she sees too
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>anvil splitter has shitty spread so it's awful from far
>might as well use an actual shotgun up close
>get less XP from shooting big arcs when anvil splitter is equipped, most likely doing less overall damage with it on
when am I supposed to use this thing, it seems terrible in literally every scenario
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>>547044681
I saw someone post a webm of it one-shot headshotting a free kit, so it's based in my book
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ETA on Venator nerf? Want to abuse this as long as possible.
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>>547044483
oh like that area north by the elevator with the piled up cars and shit?
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>>547045006
Even if it does get nerfed it will likely still be a decent option to pair with a ferro/renegade/anvil
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>>547041721
I was like that at first but it gets a lot easier as you do it. Just say “hey bud!” and keep it movin. People will either ignore me or engage in banter. This guy >>547042196
gave solid advice but got roasted. Its fun. Im way friendlier in this game than irl.
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>>547045006
Probably this week if the devs arent jerking off
If it take more time you'll have very little to abuse since basicly everybody will be running it too
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Anvil should take three hits to kill a green shield user UNLESS *BOTH* shots are headshots. The current head + body = 0hp green shield user is ass, but only because first-shot advantage is too strong.
Getting domed once by an Anvil from ambush should not leave you without any room for a single mistake. There's effectively no room for counter-play because you need to devote 99% of your resources into not getting hit.
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>>547045006
Hilarious how overtuned it is, but when its nerfed people are going to just use the Sticher 4 maybe run double to swap
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>>547044332
I just went to a matr map and no one was even shooting at it. Like other anons have said people that engage in pve just get 3rd partied, a lot of people probably dont even bother with it for that reason. Thats a legit issue, that honestly they need to do something about. Cant have a pvevp game if people wont pve.
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>>547043686
anvil toro would be good
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Can't wait to lose well over 100k to someone ratting while I try to get matriarch damage done
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Yeah I think I finna go free kit nigging for a while, I want to get comfortable with the PvP without risking actual gear
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I've just started and i'm overwhelmed as fuck.
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>>547045312
I think it's fine to be able to 2tap, they just need to nerf the +firerate bonus, just like for the Venator and Renegade
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>>547043297
I found a venator bp last night in a desk
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gun skins when
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>>547043192
The loot pools seem dictated by container type. The odds of pulling good shit are boosted by things like
>night/electromagnetic storm
>is behind a locked door
>is behind a breachable door
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>>547045006
dec 18
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I wish i knew i needed pillows and lightbulbs down the line, i got rid of many. Reeee
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>>547044235
Just bring ferro+stitcher and a blue looting backpack. Stuff anything shiny into your ass. If you get killed, it doesn't matter because the important stuff is in your ass.
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>>547043784
look up the videos. I just finished all of the quests today and I can't be fucked to explore shit in this game. You can look around and explore while everyone is trying to kill you
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>>547044094
Gotsta learn dem youngins, this how it go DOWN nigguh
*smacks lips*
Now where mah Ryder Clofs at?
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>>547042640
Im a retired lesbian vice principal. Folks in Sperganza call her “Gizmo Gwen” cus she is good at rigging shit. Before her academic career, she got kicked out of the lesbian navy for fightin and fuckin. She met her life partner Marge in Portland, tough old bitch had a snatch that would make your toes curl, but they got separated when the arc came. She goes topside everyday looking for her.
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>>547044520
I love the map but it's easily PvP-negro territory. You see flares going up immediately when you spawn in and youre constantly getting sniped at
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my prediction as to why the venator hasn't been changed is because they're going to do a full balance pass and are trying to decide what the appropriate power levels are
is it that the venator is overtuned
or is it that other weapons in its tier and above are undertuned
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>>547045312
The freeniggers are going to strawman that you want to be litterally invulnerable to anything short of a railgun.
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>>547044235
Why?
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>>547046691
>You can look around and explore while everyone is trying to kill you
Just wander around with free kits and zero risk? It's how I spent the first 10 hours in the game. Not everything needs to be 100% optimal.
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>>547046695
Seem rapeable, nice profile anon
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>>547046695
>t. average republican voter when nobody asks them to think about gay people
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I finally got enough free coins to get the driftcoat costume and while I like it and don't regret it I can't help but wonder if the early store is a rugpull to get people to spend free coins before introducing more actually good skins before the holidays
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what should I do? upgrading workshops sucks ass, i don't have many BPs and my attempts to grind money in blue ridge village have been total shit. i also have way too much plastic.
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>>547046849
This is literally a buff to freekosing
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>>547046695
This is headcannon for a good portion of redditor players, except unironically.
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>>547046913
Thanks babe
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>>547046823
There are obviously some oversights with the venator. The weapon fires two bullet projectiles per trigger pull but only consumes one per pull. At the absolute least we can expect that to change, which will effectively halve its magazine size, double its ammo consumption, and double its durability decay rate.
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since i have everything maxed out i think im just gonna kos friggermaxxing on dam until the expedition window, need to do my part in scaring away the cod players and encourage the devs to balance freekits and pvp vs pve risk/reward ratios
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>>547046823
Venator is 100% overpowered
If they were to balance all weapons around the venator you'd get a 200ms TTK on shit like torrente and shotguns, it would kill the game instantly
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>>547047106
Not letting reddit ruin my good time. Besides, Reddit is mostly kosniggers anyway desu. Gwens always there to lend a hand.
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>>547046980
>grind money
just do matriarch whenever its up and snag the fallen pieces first
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>>547047340
Would you kill me?
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>>547046980
I sell a lot of what scrappy produces and run poverty load outs.
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>>547047129
i think the two projectiles thing is a lie, and it just fires one 18 damage projectile
at least that's what early testing showed
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Bettina would be good if it was semi auto and also could clip the wings off a hornet/wasp in one shot
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>>547047340
>encourage the devs to balance freekits and pvp vs pve risk/reward ratios

Ya see, some lil' timmy get hisself lost in da hood , ain't no 5-0 comin for ya either. Timmy run around , get all that good good like a good lil honey bee. Then you roll up wit the gat and dat big dick energy and POP is yours , nawimsayin? Nah man, aint no 5-0 comin for lil timmy. He come to da hood, he gon get GOT.
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what do i take in the yellow/red/green tree to get up to 15 points that are useful?
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>>547041721
are you so autistic you don't greet people? you need to start saying good morning/afternoon/evening to anyone you pass by. making a noise to acknowledge the existence of another person is the baseline to exist in polite society. i've identified myself as friendly in arc by just grunting on mic, literally any human sound works since vocal acknowledgement is the minimum. since you say you only clam up in game just get used to using push to talk and saying "hey man". playing arc raiders should be no different than walking around your neighborhood and greeting random people
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>spawn late into raid trying to hunt matriarch
>see a few raider flares
>no one is shooting matriarch
>walk up to take some shots
>some guy throws like 15+ snitch scanners at me
what the fuck
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>>547044886
Oh yeah that makes sense considering that the damage is split and the oneshot protection from shields goes away before the last fragments hit.
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>>547042640
interesting. my raidersona is a retired rapist that got out of the game after a rape went bad and he lost his partner. he got called in by celeste to go topside for one last big rape contract. he exclusively uses assault weapons
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>do my first night raid in a while
>bring decent gear, ready for a fight
>got the purple key for the town hall
>meet up with a guy near spawn and he actually calls out and doesn't shoot
>ask him if he wants to roll with me and he can loot the building with me
>get in and get out uncovered
>he gets a Torrente and some other goodies
>I get a fucking silencer 2 blueprint
>instantly put it in my ass
>we dip out on an extract called by someone else
>no one shoots each other
>we all win
Fucking kino lads. I know I could've looted the whole place myself but it was nice having the backup.
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do people actually consider free kits an issue? they're free kills with the cheapest custom loadout
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>>547048745
If someone decides to play ratty and hold a random corner, you will lose even with the most expensive kit
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>>547048745
It's way too strong for the price, which is 0
Or maybe it's the other way around and high tier gear is just worthless
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>>547048539
Come on old pal, just one last job, you know the drill
You, me, 6 jolt mines, a stack of rope, buried city
Are you in?
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>>547048707
>venator chud
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>>547047934
>yellow
1 on first, then the left branch you get both 5/5 for stamina boost.
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>>547040082
Yeah, the only Sentinel core I have is from a Courier
But still, haven't found another one
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Is the raider deck time limited? I heard the new one is coming for the December update but is there any info if it will replace the current one? Because I need that receding hairline
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>>547049039
It was for ARCiggers. Toro is for raiders.
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>>547048745
A lot of people complain about them. Im interested to see what embark does if anything. The game is fun but theres some blatant balancing issues.
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>>547042515
maybe he wanted to just down you to get some xp?
still, shit behavior from him
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My raiderson is simply a baseline nigger who favours being cunningly brutal over brutal cunning.
I don't do crossplay, so it should provide enough of a novelty.
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>>547049202
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I personally think freekits are fine. Kettle should be a raider killer, stitcher should be enough to wipe a small team. Freekits should start with more ammo, actually and gray weapons should be tier 3 minimum on a freekit. Works on my machine.
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>new game balance with lore inclusion
>Celeste will now tell you she doesn't want to waste high level gear on simple raid topside
>rare tier weapons and above are now locked from daytime raids for Dam and Buried City
If everyone is rats,
No one will be
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>>547048707
Ive had chill night raids as well before
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>>547049097
yeah then what because thats not 15 total to progress
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>some dude made a video about pvp and tips for it
>also shows how he takes down people while they are doing matriarch
>every single person in the comments is raging hard
Lol
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>>547050370
Kek
Link?
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duo partner makin it a habit of runnin aroudn in an area already looting and runnin into a closed doored room full of camping assholes
what do i do to get him to stop?
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Well I did a trio to take down the Matriarch and she died, three teams in different spots all shooting her down. Eventually I ran out of medical stuff though, team went in and looted it, I was able to loot some parts and then while leaving got shot in the back.

At least I got her reactor I guess but this just isn't worth it, we only had 5 minutes left on the clock and my team mates only got out in time because they didn't even bother looting her.
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Wow a guy came up on me while I was fighting a bastion and instead of killing me he helped me and we split the loot. Takes me back to the good old days of last week
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>>547048707
Love it. Everybody wins.
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in the main menu i wish you could quick craft stuff right in the inventory instead of having to go back to the workshop screen
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>>547039081
naked rat runs are pretty chill when you just hunting for BP's and don't feel like tryharding pvp
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>>547050472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf2EKLAkrQM
Some of the tips are actually solid and it shows you the kind of rat you gotta look out for. But the comments are just funny as fuck
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>>547050370
I mean, is it actual tips or just 10m of "3rd party with a venator"?
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>>547050245
kill yourself because you don't know how to think for yourself. That's 'then what'
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matchmaking when you go in light is suffering, it's nonstop actual newbs and freekitters
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>>547039081
Whats the deal with naked runs?
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>>547051072
>encourages stealth and civility
>get an ass pocket
>no loss if you die
>kosfags get nothing for killing you
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how many of you fags are gainfully employed? Because how on earth do you find the time to do everything the game has to offer so far?
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>played 100s of raids
>never find a Venator
>finally decide to craft a Venator
>find a Venator within a minute of my next raid
Damn. It really works like that, huh?
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>>547051197
So basically just dont bring a weapon or healing
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>>547051008
>ask simple question
>cant answer correctly
>sperg out when corrected
many such cases
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>>547051407
It's pretty much useless unless lvl 4
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>>547051296
Me.
I don't, but luckily a lot of what this game has to offer isn't worth attempting until they rebalance things anyways.
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Shani really just exists for the daily hatch key, what would you allow Shani to sell to make her more useful
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jfc don't reply

just drown because you literally can't allocate the points yourself
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>>547051465
Nuka cola
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>>547051465
Quest items at a very high cost
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>>547051465
Random key each day, high price
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>>547051480
>cant even reply correct
>still mad
many such cases
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If im bringing my Snap Hook should I have a kit with multiple stash spots so I can hide it in my ass?
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>>547051719
Yes
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>>547050370
This community might actually it
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Spawned late into Matriarch and got gunned down by half the server mad that they didnt get any reactors
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>>547050956
>"Here I roleplayed as a silent guy defending the matriarch"
>Proceed to pull out venator and kill everyone
I bet there would be 0 outrage if he actually was honest and said "it's a pvp game and I'm getting the free kills"
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>sniping matriarch with my rinky dink osprey at 700m
>silence 1
>get three shots that do jack shit
>stay scoped in watching for aggro
>tiny circle in the distance
>circle growing larger
>missle jumpscares the fuck out of me right in my face
I'm having fun.
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Time to shove this patrol car key up my ass and hope it's on Blue Gate where I found it.
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>>547051895
even though its a pve game first. The loudest complainers are pvpfags wanting to nerf freekits.
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>>547052235
lmao no, yhe loudest complainers are definitely the people who want pve and its not even close
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thank god this guy couldnt aim
https://files.catbox.moe/lb6eaz.mp4
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>>547044042
>I can't even down a nigger in a single mag with the larger mag attachment and all upgrades.
Are you in close quarters? In close quarters it's going to destroy most guns in a dps race.
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judging by the map, I'm going to guess there'll be a volcanic map and/or a coastal area near "trecase"
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>>547052330
>Venator getting gaped by a kettle
Embarrassing
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>>547052235
Yep
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>>547051859
I just did a quest on spaceport and I called in an extract and about 10 people rolled up on me that had just killed the Matriarch. It was terrifying. Only one rat nigger tried shooting me when the doors were closing and I blasted his ass point blank with the Toro and put him in timeout
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>>547052330
Another Venacuck put down like a dog.
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>>547052312
>he hasnt read the thread
Loud. Vocal. Minority.
Tell someone you think gray kits are balanced, thats a vibe check.
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>>547052482
You already get Volcanic rocks on the ground so I'd imagine something like that. I wonder what the snow map events will be like? Will they be comfy?
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>>547050956
>maybe if some guy is just running aroudn with a Venator and not even shooting at the Matriarch, you should kill him"
>"If a grown man is begging you to rez him, he has legendary loot"

Kek
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>>547052482
Between Dam and Spaceport probably alot of geyseys and weird rock formations
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>>547052330
kettleGODs we stay winning
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>>547052776
Might make us move slower
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>>547052683
This thread is mostly sweat pvpers, that's not representative of the community, if you go to the subreddit or the official discord it's a constant shitflinging about the PvE mode and freekits are rarely, if ever, mentionned
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>>547045970
>>547045909
>>547045803
I'm just running around with a looting level 1 and either ferro 1 or stitcher 1. 1 box of ammo. 3 regular bandaid and 1 shield repair.

Enjoy killing me for zero loot while I do my quest
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>>547052865
yeah, you can even see some orange structures
>>547052776
>snow
forgot about that, I imagine the new "it" skin will be whatever has the most white.
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Why did the devs nerf the locker perk immediately but need a month and a two week community survey to nerf the venator?
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>>547052978
Thats pretty much my loadout too. Wouldnt mind being able to craft a renegade and toro though
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>>547052974
That would help your argument if it didnt explicitly show that the game has a bigger pve community and thus the game is pve first, therefore proving my point.
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>>547046881
>Just wander around with free kits and zero risk? It's how I spent the first 10 hours in the game. Not everything needs to be 100% optimal
You are retarded and clearly have not done ANY FUCKING quests.
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>>547053274
>When the general complain about freekits it's a "loud vocal minority"
>When reddit complain about lack of pve mode it's "explicitly showing that the game has a bigger pve community"
My sides will require 10 exodus mods to repair fully
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Is the Toro good for putting down a filthy rat nigger?
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I don't want to shoot fellow raiders but the game is sorta boring otherwise..
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buff shield values already holy fuck
you deplete it so fast just from basic wasps and recharges are expensive as fuck to craft and upkeep early on until you're a week 2 sweat
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>>547053570
>no argument, not even denial
>pretends to not be seething internally
Seems like a common go to response when pvpniggers get btfo. Many such cases. Next you'll resort to replying without quoting and claiming to be perfectly calm. concession accepted
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>need leaper unit
>seems I can mostly solo it
>some teammates should be able to help
>ping that I need the Leaper Unit over and over
>ping that I see a leaper
>ping the safe building
>they're off fucking in the bathroom or something
>don't help me at all
>pretty much do it all myself
>ANOTHER team comes and jois me
>they loot it before I do
>"Thanks :)"
FUCK YOUUUUU
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>>547052978
yeah i just do that shit just so i can have a safe pocket because i just need basic expedition materials like fuckin sensors or workbench shit like gears
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The real OP part of freekitting is that you can rush down people and trash your MMR for free
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>>547045071
Yeah that's the one
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>>547053979
>join a pug
>"WHYYYY ARENT THEY DOING WHAT I NEED"
bruh
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>still no wolfpack bp
At least let me buy wolfpacks from a trader
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>Kill freekit rat
>Other guy starts asking me if i killed him
>He clearly has voice chat off because he just keeps talking despite me responding
>Ends up attacking me
Some people in this game are just retarded man
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>>547052978
Just did a run with looter mk1 + light shield no guns at night and helped some dude get his quest done and glitched into some key rooms. I think this is how I'll farm blueprints from now on
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>>547054802
You sure you had prox toggled? I find it bizarre someone would be able to speak but have voice chat off.
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>>547050557
>At least I got her reactor I guess but this just isn't worth it, we only had 5 minutes left on the clock and my team mates only got out in time because they didn't even bother looting her.

If you bring weapons that kill her fast, someone will kill you and take them. If you bring cheap weapons that no one wants, you won't be able to finish on time
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>spend 10 minutes solo killing a bastion at end of match
>go down to loot
>rat cunt downs me while looting
>doesn't say anything, doesn't loot me or the bastion, just runs away
at least fucking loot me man, what's the point of being a KOSnigger if you're just gonna kill people when they can't fight back then run away
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>>547034580
For anyone else that was having issues with Rusted Gears, I found a bunch under the Primary facility on Dam, it's the garage looking area.
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>>547044483
for rusted gears just hit scrap yard on dam, for lightbulbs there is a white car on south side of Electrical Substation that has 100% chance of lightbulb in the hood, there's also a drawer in the little hut east on the outside of Power Generation Complex that has 100% lightbulb spawn
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Anyone got a medium gun parts BP they are willing to trade for a compensator III BP?
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How do you guys figure the Arc Emperor (the fuckhuge Arc you see in the distance on blue gate) fight is going to work? I imagine something that big is going to need a dedicated map
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>>547051296
I mainly play on the week ends because during the work week i'm too tired to get stressed out playing an extraction shooter. Who cares if i got fast or not ? Quests are fucking useless and you can do everything with a free kit.
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>>547055481
Triple venator to the face
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>>547011798
Shoutout to Risu
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Almost all my workbenches are level 3, I'm level 35, and I got about five blueprints today solo. Including the Venator...Is it time? For PvP?
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>>547055562
kek
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>>547042201
It will probably get better over time if anything, pvpfaggots are short term dopamine seekers and shooting opponents that have no chance to retaliate will get boring at some point, the casuals playing 2 hours a day will hop on for a queen/matriarch co-op raid. On top of them perhaps changing the TTK at some point making being a rat less effective.
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they should just let people go full wow raid 40 people with a shitload oof matriarchs, queens, rocketeers and all of that shit. have special dps and healing augments, and even tank can draw more aggro and have improved distraction effects on equipment
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>>547055481
Emperor will be its own map.
>mostly indoors like stella montis
>superfuturistic inhospitable interior
>constantly rocking around
>can breach out onto the roof or sides where there are catwalks
>entire lobby can band together to kill it by destroying vital rooms
>when aggroed the emperor begins locking itself down, gassing corridors, spawning bots that make shredders look like a joke
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>>547055664
Your expedition, anon?
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>>547055481
I imagine I'll get shot in the ass any time I try so the mechanics of it don't matter to me
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>>547055879
This would be really cool which is why i don' think its going to happen
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>>547055042
Yeah. Yellow icon showed up and i was talking to people literally one raid before.
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>>547044440
I had to do a leaper for the last quest and I queued dam storm right at the time you posted this, spawned north at red lake and just wolfpacked the leaper for an easy kill
it's that easy, anon
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I did not find the patrol car, I assume it's somewhere in the checkpoint/underground area but I had to scoot.
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>>547056342
There's maybe 10 patrol cars, big dark SWAT van looking things with open backs. One of them will be closed at random and that's where the key goes.
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>>547056537
Gotcha, thanks.
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>have defib
>no one needs saving
>someone needs saving
>no defib
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i'm too scared to use my wolfpacks cause i don't have the bp for them
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>>547056642
>take gear
>rats all have a 6th sense and get the drop on me
>free kit
>literally can run in the open and someone will just yell "hey raider !" in the distance
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>>547056852
thats funny
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>>547056581
>>547056537
be on the lookout for a white light eminating from its back
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>gotta go to spaceport control tower for a quest
>mine the FUCK out of the elevator while I pick the place clean
>extract without issue
>only when I'm back in speranza do I remember I left all those mines there
woops sorry
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thanks spiderbro
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explain to me what makes the kettle good. i've only used level 1 with no mods and it seemed like one of the worse options in the free kit
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>>547057685
very fast firerate with decent damage
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>>547057685
Infinite rpm, no recoil, upgrading to 4 remove all the malus of slow reload/velocity
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>>547057314
>put some gas mines and locked the door of a batiment i'm looting
>hear someone opening it and eating the gas
>hide
>he continues as if nothing happened
>he walks right in front of me and i drop him
>"wtf bro' why"
Nigger are you retarded
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>>547057508
also
>his salty shittalking afterwards bragging how he won that fight while my sides were leaving orbit
>then proceeds to plead and beg for another player to come res him and kill me
literally have negative empathy for these COD faggots desu
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>>547038598
I think that Grey weapons should have a 60% chance to do reduced damage through a purple shield but always damage the shield at the reduced rate of damage. That way it would take longer for them to take your shield and health down compared to other weapons. Where as weapon of the same rarity have 100% chance to do damage through the shield at the reduced damage rate. Until we get the Holtzman legendary shield that basically you have to EMP or melee to "knock it out" to do damage. Otherwise only other legendaries can do damage through or to the shield.
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>>547057508
Why did you peak while you were still reloading? You had him
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>>547057508
lmao
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so what's the lore of the game? what did we do to make them clankers that mad?
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>level 1 stitcher reload animation has the guy fiddling with the shit-ass rusted parts that won't work
>level 4 stitcher reload animation is butter smooth
I like this
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When is we getting QoL
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>>547057853
I genuinely think a lot of people don't realize those are player traps, they think they are environmental hazards.
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>>547058121
totally would've yeah, but hindsight is 20/20
I thought I had reloaded, it caught me off guard completely that I still had to finish it because I interrupted it with the roll earlier
I also thought another player was shooting him based on the "ow" noise he made from the fire, so I thought he'd lost his focus on me
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>trying to get shrooms to upgrade chicken
>jumped three times by rats trying to sneak behind me
>kill all three
>die to an extraction camper while trying to hide from wasp
I'm having fun. Can't wait for doing this three more times.
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>>547058453
I think you're right. It was probably the first time he went there and thought it was just business as usual.
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>>547058413
we're italian
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>>547057685
It's the 2nd best Grey gun in close quarters. Probably second best at medium and long range too. Very good all around against humans. Bad vs bots.
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>>547058421
If a gun's condition is below 50% the reload animation becomes clunkier too.
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>>547039808
There's a Sentinel on Dam up the stairs going to the main complex, another 3 are on buried city (Above town hall and two under the bridge)
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>>547058776
It does fine against all the small bots really. I think you need 3 hits to destroy an unarmored thruster. Really easy to hit.
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>>547058413
They don't like our outfits
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>>547058413
minor disagreement over gender identity
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Do couriers drop bastion or bombardier cores or is it just surveyor and sentinel cores?
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They really need to add a Flea Market or player trading in general. I know you can meet up in a raid but it would be nice to have something else to spend money on.
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>>547058413
The hate the poor
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>>547058908
yeah it's decent against small stuff but a single wasp will ruin your day.
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>>547058413
Clankers are made by elite globalist pedophiles who live in space and want to exterminate the lower classes and poison their water with estrogen.
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>>547058413
It's anti-Italian discrimination is what it is!
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>>547008560
Hawker's my favourite.
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>>547059152
You mean a hornet ? And still no, just hit the back thrusters. Its not that hard really.
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>>547058413
Non-meme answer: rich people fled to space when the Earth became uninhabitable, eventually realized it was safe to come back down, and built robots to wipe out all the filthy poors first. The main question is if the rich people are still pulling the strings or if the ARCs went rogue and killed them too.
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>>547058413
clankers are the the rich ppl who left earth. They send them down to collect resources from thr surface and stop poor ppl from getting in the way
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>>547059152
Kettle is better than stitcher for bots, it one taps the mine rollers and works great against thrusters
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>>547010243
huffing STRAIGHT from the toilet bowl (no coming up for breath)
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I don't think grey guns do too much damage desu. Shields are too useless though. Most of the frustration with free kits is dying because they found you first and removed your entire shield plus 20% of your health before you could even turn around. If you are both prepared you are unlikely to die unless you are in a situation you don't have any cover and they do.
Buff blue shields and above and leave grey guns as is and free kits will have to think twice before ratting but still will be able to deal with the eventual wasp or hornet.
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i really hope we get a space station map
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should i always take level IV gray weapons with me if i'm just trying to gather shit to upgrade workshops? on one hand they seem cheap to upgrade but on the other hand if I die a bunch it'll add up
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>>547011890
funny
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>>547059440
depends on the shit you're collecting, nice to have an ass pocket for rare upgrade mats
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>>547058413
They're incel chuds.
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>>547054802
Are you 100% sure that the game is configured to use the correct audio input?
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>>547059417
the think is its not just about how much damage they do to players and shields its how powerful they are relative to their tier. the stitcher and kettle out damage the pink gun bobcat. even if you buff shields, why would anyone want to take high tier guns for their high cost when a grey gun does as much, if not more damage? thats also the other glaring issue with the grey guns.
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Why does the playerbase make it so hard to kill them? I got my first blueprint ever and I don't know if they're valuable or not so I didn't want to lose them so I shot a guy who came through the place I was looting. It was a boomer and now I feel bad.
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>trio team up on solos
>kill me as soon as i leave spawn point completely naked (was doing a gathering quest)
>all three start talking shit while i'm downed calling me shit and telling to uninstall
Enjoy my empty inventory.
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>>547059810
>the stitcher and kettle out damage the pink gun bobcat
gray delusion. you can still react to both, you can't react to bobcap
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>>547059864
>kill some dude because i had some good shit and i'm paranoïd
>"welp gg man"
s-sorry man
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>>547059440
depends on the gun, ferro is complete dogshit at I for anything but being a potshot-taking faggot in bushes from 100m away, kettle doesn't get any dps boost per mag but makes long distance better (and increases reload increasing dps technically?), stitcher IV becomes a laser beam, rattler IV becomes mildly useable etc.
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>>547055143
It's a pvp game ;)
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>>547059258
>The main question is if the rich people are still pulling the strings or if the ARCs went rogue and killed them too.

It has to be the latter.
>We're going to return to earth but first we have to murder everyone who is still there
Is really fucking dumb.
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>>547059152
Hornet, not wasp. Think 'H' for "Heavy".
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>>547055143
This is why they need to do something about free kits. You can literally clock in and rape anyone with a free kit easily. So faggots just do that instead of playing the game.
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really wondering why the devs made melee so shitty. I thought the green tree would improve damage but all it gets is a stamina discount so you can swing more.
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>>547017873
I thought an MMO-style hub of Speranza where you could interact and trade with others would be fucking awesome.
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>>547060031
tfw slowly becoming a Joel in this fucked up world
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>>547060354
melee can be busted in 3rd person games like this
but it may be a sign they will add melee weapons later, i kind of bet they will.
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>>547060372
i was thinking the same thing as well, instead of a ready up screen we could walk around in a hub area. future update maybe? it also gives us an excuse to show off our outfits
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>>547060031
I felt so bad when I heard his raspy voice say "good fight raider". I don't know if i'm cut out for this game. I don't care if I die and I hate shooting other people but I feel like i'm not gonna progress if I don't.
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>>547060629
After you kill a few it becomes easier. Especially when you encounter a few dudes who just kinda rage at you like they aren't playing a PvP game.
>"BRO WHY WOULD YOU KILL ME WHAT A DICK"
like dude play something else wtf
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>>547060629
>but I feel like i'm not gonna progress if I don't
wait what are you missing out on if you don't shoot people first
do rats get loot from killing players? yes
do rats always extract with said loot? doubt it
do you sometimes get loot from rats who try to kill you? abso-fucking-lutely

the economy is such a net positive, you can have one non-violent extract as a freekit and make 40-50k easily from that run, in less than 10 minutes
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>>547060551
Finals track record shows that melee will remain dogshit for no reason for 6 gorillion years.
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>>547038831
i agree, but at the same time i think it'll only make the game more fun. if it actually becomes a problem (or realistically speaking, if PvE players are loud enough) then embark will probably add a gay baby jail queue that automatically puts you in games with other murderhobo players
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>>547060629
I try to go in with one defib in my pocket every raid for this reason, it's paid off on my conscience a few times. But I fear it'll just take one asshole shooting me immediately after defib to make me stop doing it.
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Trying to farm blueprints is genuinely the worst shit in the world. I'm going into night raids with a looter mk1 or 2 and a light shield, no guns, just teaming with anyone I find to open key doors with the glitch and I've gotten jack fucking shit
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>>547060893
That's the problem, I can't tell if the guy i'm shooting is an old man or a small child or some raging faggot and I only want to shoot one of them.
>>547060914
I probably should have mentioned this was my very first kill, I don't know if i'm missing out on anything because i'm level 4 and was desperately defending my first looted blueprint(Light Extended Mag II).
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>play during the day
>everyone is chill
>play at night
>everyone is a camping piece of shit that doesnt use the mic and shoots on sight
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>>547060893
I had a dude do this to me as I was helping him down a Bombadier. I kept my distance, but was near his building. He comes down and starts lurking around the corner. I ask him "hey we cool? Just helping out" and he keeps creeping. I shoot and down him when he doesn't say anything and then he gets all mad like I wasn't talking to him the whole time and watching him sneak up on me with his gun out.
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>>547056009
Oh god I haven't been doing that. Owell I have a ton of mats saved up won't be too hard to finish.
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You little carebears better be counting the days, because soon the player base is going to get bored with PVEing, which means you won't be able to keep shielding your ego about how bad you are at PVP by pretending to be a "friendly guy"
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>>547061295
Pretty much my experience. Sucks that i'm coming back home at around 23h when i'm done working. I pretty much only play week ends because of this.
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does slappin a lure grenade ona bombadier do anything? i was free kit and it was on the garage in buried city so i was just using all the grenades i can from the raider stash under the parking lot on it and i dont know if i really did anything substantial to it
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>>547061435
I'm looking forward to it. If everyone is a KOSing rat like me then I won't have to feel bad when I shoot them from behind while they're looting.
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>>547061435
ok bro' we got it you're edgy as fuck and better at video games than us. don't forget you still have to get your driving license otherwise mom will kick you out
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Raiders of the Lost ARC
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>>547060629
Happened to me literally once and the dude made a lot of noise to make sure I knew he was coming. Every other time it was a rat raging his ratting didn't pay off.
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>>547061517
Industrial/Electrical areas I think. Especially computer offices or server rooms? I got a lot of em' at the departure building, first floor behind the lobby at Spaceport.
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>>547061517
stella is the goat farming area for practically everything, but obviously high risk/high reward
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>>547061346
>meet dude around 3 corpses
>ask him what happened
>"haha i guess there was a fight"
>don't fucking buy it
>"hey wanna team up ?"
>he starts following me and i'm mad paranoïd
>don't want to shoot first because somehow he sounds friendly still
>run around the place
>mfw he literally yeets himself off the building by accident and dies
I think he really didn't kill those guys, after all.
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>>547060893
Meanest I've been is to those who "friendly" then shoot me in the back, and I give them a "come on really, couldn't win a fair fight?" I GG those who kill me to my face and they're generally pretty sporting about it too. On the other hand, the amount I've times I've killed someone who ambushed me to hear "WOOOOW I ONLY HAD A FREE KIT" is pathetic.
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>>547060372
>>547060556
why would anyone ever want this
not having a hub is a plus for this game if anything, not having to run back and forth just so I can buy a hatch key and exchange seeds is great, the hub could only be better if they permanently removed all voiced dialogue from the traders
don't even get me started on the outfits, show off what, this >>547059193? a gay jumpsuit with heavy duty toilet plunger knees, a bomber jacket that somehow manages to look bad, and the bussin haircut on your unc?
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>>547060914
not him but you aren't thinkin of money economy until you're like deep into the game and got all your quest and shit done

starting out you need like everything you can and money is spent on a stash upgrade
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they should add special ammo to the game to balance gear, make grey guns not use any at all, give good ones to the pink and legendary guns
AP ammo for extra arc damage
electric ammo for extra shield damage
hollow ammo for extra health damage
dragonbreath
make it only craftable from arc components, guns can be balanced through special ammo availabilities and properties IE X gun and Y gun both have hollow ammo but its more effective on the other because the other needs a specific niche in the balance
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>>547061849
I'm pretty happy that i've had plenty of guys trying to jump me, losing and going like "welp gg bro'".
Trying to take someone in the back and THEN bitching is the lowest of the low.
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I've been killed more by actual misunderstandings than rat behavior. Rats are kinda predictable and pretty easy if freekit, I'm still not sure how people are getting btfo'd by freekitters, don't hide and bandage or shield if you get jumped by one just be aggressive after the intitial backstab and you'll be okay.
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>>547061464
Has to be teenagers and console-tards home from school. I'm gonna shut off crossplay and see if that helps. I just got shot in the head while doing the train console from a kid who assured me he was "just there to leave". This game is gonna erode my better nature and I'm gonna turn into a violent and cruel person in real life.

>>547061435
The average player likes you just waits until I'm shooting an arc or looting before opening fire. You fags never fight fair. I'm rocking a toro now just for gamers like you
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>>547061990
This, freekits have no magazine size. If you survive the initial volley and quickly rush them they're helpless. Such is life for an ambush predator.
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>>547038831
I'm not gonna wipe and have to spend a day wrestling an entire lobby for olives again.
How tarkov does it?
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where should I go to fight leapers
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>>547061994
>NOO YOU CANT WIN IN A PVP GAME
nothing personel, kid
>>547062112
forces you to chase the olives again
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>>547062112
tarkov wipes everyone at the same time, non optional. but you have to do it ALL again, and the grind is like 100x worse than arc raiders. theyre supposed to have a nonwipe pvp version eventually. pve is nonwipe
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>>547061990
a lot of my deaths are some guy from reasonably far away but in sight, saying don't shoot, me saying it in return, me passing on and breaching or looting something and then that guy shooting me in the back even though i was vigilant and kept an eye on them. i'll dodgeroll around a corner pop a heal and get ready to dump a mag in their head but the damage is usually done already even with freekit shitter guns because they can dump into the head and the game is just not that fast, the retarded plays they make works in their favour because there is no time to defend a rush like that in the maps in these games, there are not that many corners and you'll get pve on your ass if you blindly run too. nowhere to hide.
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>get killed by KOS sociopath in solos
>check profile
>Rust, DayZ, Dark and Darker
They should IP ban anyone from the game that has played any of this slop
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>>547062157
I'd recommend somewhere near extract and hose it down before the clock runs out. Just got my last 2 pulse units that way.
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>>547061994
I've actually never been killed by a console player lmao. I always check their account after the kill, and its always steam players.
The faggots no mics are almost always some kind of unemployed third worlders or close to it. Russians, turks, romanians, brazilians ... OR literal kids. Kids are the worst, they WILL lie to your face on the mic, try to kill you, and then still rage about it. I kill them on sight now, fuck them.
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>>547062380
How are you getting foreigners in your maps? I've never encountered a non-american
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>>547062326
KOS isn't really that bad really. The real sociopaths are those who befriend you on the mic and then shoot you in the back. People who played DayZ say its normal and to be expected, fuck that.
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> Dam Battlegrounds night raid
>Spawn in late
>Rat kill some guy trying to extract
>Starts getting shot at by Ark but unfortunately knocks out the guy
>Proceed to push his shit in with a hairpin IV
>The guy had a Stitcher and I still got right in his face and killed him
>He could have extracted with the other guy and kept everything but he had to be greedy
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>>547062569
I am playing from Mexico and often play with Euros, Canadians, and US. Surprisingly few from Mexico.
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>>547062326
>The faggot no mics
>they WILL lie to your face on the mic
alright dude
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>>547062569
I'm sadly european so the only surprising one is the brazilian really.
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>>547062729
whoops, meant for gay nigger >>547062380
but while I'm at it, yeah, rust players are the ones you should watch out for
t. former rust player
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>>547061517
power gen in dam
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>>547062729
Are you having a stroke m8
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>>547062181
>>547062321
I guess the problem for me is not the grind. It is that the grind is fucking boring. I'm playing to shoot stuff, not running to a tree to collect olives.
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>>547062872
I was talking about two different groups of people. The no mics subhumans, or the kids with mics. Thanks for proving to everyone that rust players are indeed sociopath retards with no reading comprehension.
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>>547062898
the game isn't ideal for the melanated
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>>547061873
The old man+mullet combo is an Australian thing that you clearly don't get
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>>547062898
It's a grindan game. I wouldn't be playing this either if all I wanted was competitive shooting.
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>>547063019
I've already done my share of fetch quest chores when I played wow.
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played stella for the first time last night. is it just me or is it a straight up DM map? always spawned close to other players, shootouts within minutes, shootouts at extract.
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>>547062898
Grinding is meaningless right now anyway since endgame gear is worthless
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Are rats a problem in all extraction shooters? Are they typically reviled?
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>>547061873
you sound insufferable
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>>547063017
either way I have no problem with no-mics, because I don't have to hear them. my only problems are ever with people who have mics, ironically, because at least half of them have full open mic rather than push to talk
also I think you would do very well playing rust, you have the 10k hour attitude, give it a shot
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>>547058413
>Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent
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>>547062594
Considering the only thing that killing people gets you is middling loot you likely can't carry and everyone thinking you're a massive homo, then yeah, it is a problem. Squads is a whole different situation and I wouldn't be one bit upset about people shooting on sight there. Solo is almost ubiquitously known for either grinding missions or trials, so killing some dude on sight with the knowledge you're just wasting his time is literal psychopath behavior and you should feel bad for doing it.

It wouldn't be as bad if they weren't nerfing everything related to solo grinding in this game. Security lockers were blasted from orbit and the Hullcracker and Wolfpack, literally the only consistent ways to farm ARC for trials as a solo, were made so expensive you have to spend multiple runs prepping gear just to have one shot at getting three stars MINIMUM, let alone competing with the poopsocks who are trying to get double promo.

So I guess in a way it is on the devs for making so much of the game a psychological FOMO trick on fucking everything- from the shop to the trials, to timed events, expeditions, and all that shit. But if you're gunning down dudes on sight to maybe get your shield rechargers and ammo topped off you deserve a permaban from the game and probably should be gulag'd to Counter Strike where you belong.
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>>547063195
freeniggers need to be barred from the map
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>>547063231
insufferable and correct
not every game needs some destiny style bloated hub and almost every cosmetic looks awful
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>>547063323
Unironically never met someone with open mic.
I used to play rust back when i was jobless faggot, years ago. Damn this game is fucking old, and so i am.
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>>547063217
>Are rats a problem in all extraction shooters?
yes
>Are they typically reviled?
they are annoying, but this community seems to want an MMO more than anything else
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>>547063323
Why would you open mic this game? You are broadcasting your position
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>>547063217
In Tarkov rats are typically campers and hiders and there's a spectrum to it
Typically camping and holding a building/corner isnt anything special, that's what you do to survive
Camping extracts is another level entirely, prepare to get shit talked
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What is the appropriate thing to say to a KOS rat that downed me? Just surrender right away and say nothing? Bitching and complaining does no good. These "people" lack souls or empathy.
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>>547063726
>hey wanna suck my dick real quick ?
Is my usual line when i'm mad.
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>>547063217
Yes and everyone hates them. In tarkov at least they are less of a problem because gear matters more so the equivalent of a free kit is unlikely to kill you and in turn you can clap him with a couple of bullets
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>>547063475
posts like this is why the game will die, half of the community wants a PvE hugbox and claims to be a psychologist the moment they are shot in a PvP game
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any good and cheap weapons/ explosives to kill the bigger robots? i took a rocketeer out with a ferro but it okk a long time
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>>547060629
I think of the few times I got ratted on or Arc'd, and how my deaths ultimately didn't matter.
Its not Tarkov, unless you are so dumb as to not keister the one or two really rare and valuable items you may find during a run its your own fault, and everything else is just a bit of frustration.
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>>547063726
"Fuck you faggot nigger I hope your mother dies in a house fire and the police need you to identify the body" or something similar
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>>547063726
EXECUTE ME IF YOU'RE GAY
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>>547063195
it's DM, or was. my first match on it today was very friendly. like 5-6 people in the same area, 3-4 extracting together, etc
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>>547063726
>If you hit me you're gay
Right before they hit me. You have to hit it at the last couple of frames so they can't stop and shoot you. Then they're gay forever.
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>>547063217
Games like this really only stay alive because of the social interaction. Nothing against the game, but running around for five minutes rifling through lockers to have a desync fest shootout with some dude with a Venator, only to get spammed by impacts, is not exactly fun or engaging gameplay. Your fun will 1/1 be tied to who you're playing with and what your goal is. Do you want to just maybe complete a mission and grab a few pieces of loot on a shitty throwaway loadout? Yeah, you can probably go in with minimal stress and not worry about getting shot by some rat prick camping the extract.

But try to grind a trial or get out with something rare you've been looking for (and can't otherwise stash in your ass)? These people are the biggest nuisance in the game and just do it because they know it makes you mad.
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>>547063726
Surrender right away to deny them the opportunity to rub it while you are downed.
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Why do the bad moments from rats and shitty subhumans that KOS stick so much longer than all the positive or neutral moments I have?
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>>547063726
Best thing is to scream and either walk towards ARC or try to hide away if you can
Hope theres someone around and he gets 3rd partied or the ARC get triggered by him
Either way, try to hide your body in a bush or something so he wouldnt be able to loot you
Even while downed you can still open doors, so use your last moments to fuck with him in any way you can
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>>547063726
I say nothing and crawl in the wide open to maximize the chance he get 3rd partied
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I dont want to even attempt something like a bastion or leaper solo with this many faggots lurking about. I'll just wait till tomorrow morning
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>>547062332
any map you recommend, I've been doing spaceport and it seems they dont spawn everytime

but I killed 3 so far
and had my loot stolen once
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>>547063584
>they are annoying, but this community seems to want an MMO more than anything else
NTA but It’s so bizarre seeing people act this way honestly. I started playing the game yesterday and I’ve just accepted that any time you’re out on mission it’s the law of the jungle; sometimes you eat, sometimes you get eaten, sometimes you make truces and agree not to eat one another. It’s nice to wanna be friends and sometimes it’s in your best interest to do so but acting like everyone should be doing that is just selfish. I shouldn’t have to abide by some code of ethics or honour, it’s every man for himself out there.
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>>547063441
Great book. Never read anything like.
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>>547064016
are wolfpacks mandatory for the bigger robots?
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>>547064281
Look up
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>>547063858
snap blast grenades and heavy fuses are good against big ground arcs, used to be blaze nades but they arent so good anymore. its a bit hard to kill big arcs without getting 3rd partied if you take any kind of time though, its best to have 2-3 wolfpacks if you really have to.
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>help another team try to kill a bastion
>they decide to pvp us in the middle of it
>we all end up dying to each other and the bastion so nobody got out with anything
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>>547063965
Cause this game offers you a glimpse at the depths of human depravity life in a first world nation usually shields you from.

Life in places like India is going outside with the knowledge that if you drop your phone in public, some faggot will "KOS" your phone and run off with it. In a high trust area you drop your phone people will pick up the phone and make sure you get it.
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>>547064281
theyre flying in the sky, if you ping them using the ingame button your character will say whats flying around

thats how I check if a snitch or something before shooting at it
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>>547064050
I just did it near the Dam Control Tower extract, but there's probably better spots. Maybe Buried city if you had a raider key and did it near a hatch? I just threw like 5 blaze grenades at it and loaded it up with Anvil shots.
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>>547064318
No. You can kill them with a heavy ammo weapon. Wolfpacks will make your life much easier though.
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>>547063965
There less common? We have an innate moral compass by which such behavior repulses us?
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>>547063965
Negativity bias
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>>547064318
No wolfpacks are shit and overrated. I just sell them. Mines, nades, and heavy ammo weapons are all you need
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>Need to get some sensors (I'm a keyrat.)
>Drop into Dam doing my usual route that nets me 10+ sensors normally
>Hear footsteps up ahead
>I'm kitted out with an Anvil and a Stitcher so I'm reasonably okay with PvP engagements
>Guy pops open the door ahead and runs at me
>Hear the distinct sound of a Volcano
>Turn around nearly shitting myself in fear (I had 21 sensors on this run.)
>Get clipped going around a corner
>Hear more footsteps up ahead
>Oh. Oh no.
>Door opens and the guy behind it is pulling out his gun
>Run past him screaming incoherently about "ANGY MAN SHOTGUN"
>"Dude what?"
>Hear multiple gunshots and the sound of a raider flare going off
>"DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?"
>KEEP. FUCKING. RUNNING.
>Feel like I'm being chased by the fucking terminator, barely skipping past other bloodthirsty raiders who want my stuff
>It turns into an all out fragfest inside
>Hear a guy laughing and a boom going off
>Peak my terrified ass out from the corner
>Five people in a pile laughing while on fire
>Two guys calling the others every slur under the sun
>Hear more footsteps
>Bailed the fuck out to the nearest hatch, not even bothering even attempting to loot them.
>Made it out with my sensors intact, a blueprint for heavy weapon parts and a silencer 3

>>547064281
Blue Gate has a fuckton of them and they're easy to spot, be warned its an absolute sniperfest. Especially around the Olive Grove/Ancient Fort
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>>547064408
Ive just been using my trusty Ferro IV without an anvil blueprint I'm scared to use any i've collected despte not dying in awhile
and I'll try those spots
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>>547064376
Nah you can already experience that in most big cities of europe with all the engineers around. Thats why i'm annoyed to have to live with this shit in video games too.
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>>547064514
wolfpacks do like 80%-100% of every big arc's health, they're the best anti-arc nade in the game
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>>547063837
There's nothing wrong with PvP at all, but going into solos knowing that 90% of people are just trying to get shit done to advance quests are trials and shooting them in the back with your Venator IV is the most subhuman thing you could possibly do. Again, the bigger issue is that Embark wants it both ways and it's not working. If you want to be competitive in any of the trials or secure your loot for your incredibly specific loadout you need for something, you practically need to treat everyone as a target and get out ASAP. Forcing a solo player who just wants to grind blueprints and levels (90% of players) into a night map where two of the 20 people who spawned will be guaranteed deathmatch players is not good design at all.

I would love to focus on PvP in squads with guns that I like. But to do that I need to do solo raids to get scrap to upgrade my weapons to be competitive, and if some no life with a Stitcher IV rolls up on me at an inopportune moment I'm just boned and have to restart all over again. It's comparable to being a speedrunning tranny but there's a gremlin trying to yank out your controller's cord at random moments. Only actually mentally ill freaks would think that being the gremlin is a fun game loop.
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The longer into the match you are, the safer you become right?
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>>547064376
Thats such an overdramatic gay way of looking at it. Its a fucking game, and if you actually play it a little you realize that dying matters very little even though it may feel like abig deal in the moment, which is exactly as the devs intended.
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>>547064245
I think the slower nature of this game has brought in a lot of people that normally wouldnt want anything with PvP in it, so they see it as just a detriment to the whole thing IDK. the devs themselves said it was boring as a PvE game and its easy to see it would be, less enemy types than just one faction in helldivers
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>>547064664
depends, there can be people who wait until last minute extract camping, but I only encountered it once
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>>547063475
They added the deadline which you can buy 3 of per reset that one shot all of the larger arc
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>>547064664
Yes but actually no.
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>>547064664
people still spawn in until 17 minutes left. at 10 minutes in, arc presence becomes much heavier and there will be big arcs roaming around much more, and people know that most people are loaded with loot at that point and looking to extract, so no.
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>>547064664
You become almost completely safe if you are in an area with an extract that is out of time and you bring a hatch key to leave with all the loot
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>>547064830
10 minutes left i mean.
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>>547064664
To a degree yes, with less than 17 minutes on the clock I believe spawns get disabled so every raider flare you see is one less person collecting loot.


Loot tends to be a bit more scarce but if you've done a bit of exploring you'll have find spots with good loot that nobody fucking bothers with. Dam Battlegrounds has the satellite tower near the water towers where theres a high chance for a guncrate, a grenade tube and blueprints. I'd wager its about 80% likely that the place isn't looted and if you can sneak up there at nighttime? Decent chances for purples and rarer BPs
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>>547064603
>find wolfpack blueprint on Space Port night raid
>still no anvil blueprint
>can't build them because workbench isn't levelled up yet
>still no anvil blueprint
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I want all rats to suffer irl
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>>547064991
>Dam Battlegrounds has the satellite tower near the water towers where theres a high chance for a guncrate,
wut?
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>>547064624
I see that, you think they will cave and add PvE stuff? Tarkov has something called arena not sure if that is more PvP or not
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>>547065081
Tarkov Arena is literally TDM. Tarkov also added a PvE mode as well.
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>>547065070
If you look at your map, the water towers near the bottom where the electrical post is theres a powerline tower and a satellite dish nearby. The little shitshack has the potential to spawn a grenadetube and an ammocrate (this crate can ALSO contain BPs), behind the shack theres a high chance for a guncrate, up on the concrete platform with the actual steel tower theres a chance for ANOTHER guncrate and two more ammocrates.
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The most fun i had in this game is teaming up with random dudes and helping them in their quests.
Or that one time i spooked a guy by firing a shot as i was hiding in a corner. I laughed like a maniac, we both had a good laugh and we befriended pretty much the whole map on our way.
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>>547064376
Go back to tik tok you edgy fag
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Security Lockers are ass as soon as I get my perk.
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I snuck up on a dude and yelled "boo" while he was breaching a crate and scared him really good. He almost shot me
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>>547065081
Adding PvE would 100% kill the game. And i say that as someone who play nothing but solo/coop games these days.
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I'm not good enough at PvP games anymore to continue playing this game, I died within 2 minutes 3 times in a row losing all the gear I had in my inventory.
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>>547065331
>>547064732
Assblasted jeets. Shouldnt you be somewhere trying to scam an elderly woman out of her retirement savings?

>>547065069
They do. That's why they are rats.
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There is 0 reason why the Matriarch fight has to be PvP
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>>547065384
You're a good person for not shooting him in the back immediately Anon.
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>>547065383
woah is that the nigga from one of those old flash point and click 'adventure' type games
blocking a bullet with a bible or some shit
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>>547065456
>>547065459
why do you get so mad over losing some pixels my guy?
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>>547065081
Tarkov arena is the tdm mode they made to farm money of it's retarded playerbase same with pve but they did it to ape off of spt (single player tarkov). What's even funnier is at the end of a wipe most players just move on over to pve with their friends because the rest of the playerbase that keeps playing pvp are insufferable or hacking or both.
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oh god why can't I hold all these gears
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>>547065574
Why do you get a sick thrill out of shooting people triggering the extraction console then downing them when you cant even loot the body?
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>>547064624
This
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>>547065574
Not >>547065456
I don't get mad at losing, I was just telling the Anon hes a good guy for not immediately shooting the guy he had a fun interaction with in the back.

Did you have a good day today Anon?
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>>547064624
Exactly that kind of spicy PvE is what I'm looking for.
If the devs ever fulfilled your wish you'd be malding about Arc being too boring an dthe maps too samey after the first week, because exactly that insecurity of not knowing what the other player is up to is what makes this game exciting.
You always need to make split second decisions whether to shoot first , skeet or talk, and doing tasks that require expensive gear also require you to be on your toes. I like just that, and frankly if I get too many lobbies with only friendlies in a row the game starts to get kinda stale.
The game bascially does everything it can to tell you that this is just part of the game, you signed up for a PvpvE extraction shooter, why are you expecting Helldivers 3?
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The biggest rat is this piece of shit who always shows up in my stitcher runs in very unfortunate places
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>>547065886
>throw my body and soul at it
>kill it
>some russian nigger kills me as i loot it
FUFFFUFFUZGFZGZGFRGZAZEFQFQSV
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>>547065663
My guy, is that Anvil BP for sale? I'm fiending to finally obtain the ability to feed those to freeshitters by the bucketload
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What's the easiest way to make money early on
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When are we getting an actual city city map? Like a real downtown center.
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>>547066078
That's the fireball but the surveyor is a piece of shit too.
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>>547065886
they pop in one ferro shot, closed or not
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>>547065457
Well from what Ive learned on ytube. The best way to get good gear is to find people fighting the matriach and shoot them in the back while theyre distracted.
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>>547066189
Go in with a free kit, go to a residential area, nearly all the loot is misc. items for selling (music, books, ect). Return, sell your whole free kit as well.
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>>547065383
I might just go minesweeper if its that bad now.
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>>547066228
Sorry i'm drunk. Also the fireball is easy to kill anon. Just wait for it to come at you and open, fire a couple shots, roll away from the explosion. Works with any weapon.
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If they want people to wipe they should make it so you can keep 5 blueprints of your choice. Otherwise fuck that.
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>>547066247
These people disgust me
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>>547065858
Not him, but nobody is seriously going to stick around for very long, to play a middling PvP experience with a fake PvPvE set dressing, with 80% of the weapons never being used because the effort to obtain them isn't worth it. Especially when they shoot like a wet fucking fart in PvP itself.
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>>547066237
Yeah I'm aware. I dont always have the ferro and on freekit runs and dont get the stitcher you're fucked when he shows up

>>547066350
He takes more damage when he opens up?
I usually take a lot of damage to him just because I'm also dealing with his two white friends. Then when he dies he lights the floor of the room im in on fire. He's cost me many bandages is all I'm saying
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>loot a bunch of rubbish
>get shot by guy for no reason
>go to his profile
>rust player
It's always the rust players
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>>547066115
nta but I can give you one for free. Post a lobby link or friendcode
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>>547066569
>He takes more damage when he opens up?
Anon, believe me, you just want for it to go right in front of you and open. It instantly dies to even a stitcher.
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Solution: make the game $200

No more kids, thirdies, consolefags, and rust gremlins
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>>547064624
>on Buried City night raid grinding flying Arc from the hospital rooftop
>tabbing out between snitch spawns to post in thread
>tab back into game after checking my posts
>get KOS by some Venator tranny the second I try to leave the rooftop and extract
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>>547066734
>Anon, believe me, you just want for it to go right in front of you and open. It instantly dies to even a stitcher.

WHY DID I LISTEN
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>>547066889
Wtf you mean ? I'm not even trolling, its how i deal with them. I'm sure you can find a billion youtube videos showing you exactly how its done.
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>>547066558
>2 more weeks
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How do you see how much your loot is worth that you're carrying on a raid?
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>>547067058
top left of your inventory
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>>547067058
Hit tab and look in the top left-ish area of the inventory
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I think everyone should get there own loot when looting stuff
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How the fuck did this launch with no saved loadout slots and autocrafting for saved loadouts?
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>>547067149
I have never once played a single game with crafting that auto-crafts for loadouts
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>>547066663
Its Slaytan#0010
Don't have a Mic though if thats ok for you
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>>547065858
>You always need to make split second decisions whether to shoot first , skeet or talk,
The people arguing this only make two choices, and they don't think about either. If they see someone first they shoot. If someone sees them first they appeal to their mercy and pretend to be friendly while looking for the first opportunity to shoot. The game is just fucked until they massively pad the ttk
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>>547067212
What? Lots of games have auto-crafting that can be toggled

I think fallout 4 even did
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>>547065178
Tarkov Arena proves all of those "Tarkov PVP is amazing" people wrong. If the PVP was actually good and not just "Better gear = win" people would play it.
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>>547065081
I don't even think PvE would be the solution. As hypocritical as it sounds, the chance of losing your loot to some dude is a lot of the fun of the game, even if it is super stressful. I think a better solution would be to make it that you can't just immediately shoot someone on sight in solos maybe like a forced friendly period for the first ten minutes of the match, but there's almost no good way to implement that. In general, if the TTK wasn't so fast and shields actually blocked significant amounts of damage, it wouldn't be nearly as bad to get shot at from 10m away and you might have a fighting chance to outgun the person shooting you. But there is literally no chance to do that when four shots from a Venator or two shots from an Anvil will kill you.

>>547065858
Again, I would love tense PvP in a setting like Arc Raiders, but I don't think it works with the looting system. Granted, this is the first extract shooter I've played because the others I've played were such shit, but doing scav runs to get scrap to upgrade guns to shoot other people doing scav runs sounds like being hooked up to a dialysis machine.
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>>547064991
Some nigger with a venator lit me up shortly after I spawned near that electrical tower yesterday.
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>>547063726
This >>547063973
Rats are always two types of people;
1. Literal mongoloids from PvP games who think that it's more profitable to die 10 raids in a row just for the chance of killing one guy and getting his gear,
or,
2. Person with severe development problems who finds entertainment in acting like a piece of shit.


In both cases it's not even worth engaging them. One is too stupid to understand why their actions are retarded, and one just gets even more satisfaction from getting a rise out of you.
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>>547062569
You can explicitly specify which region's server to connect to, and some thirdies are learning that a lot of Americans are friendly and they hope to betray that generosity for their own personal gain.
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>10 people all taking down the Matriarch
>All run over and start looting
>Whole body ripped to shreds in 60 seconds like a pack of ants on a corpse
Just gonna say it; there is no need for PvP. Harder AI and more enemies would have been fine.
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NO NO NO DONT KILL ME AND TAKE MY 50TH VENATOR AND FORCE ME TO CRAFT ANOTHER ONE NOOOOO
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>>547063726
Saying anything just encourages them.
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>>547067501
the pvp is good, but it's not meant for tdm.
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>>547068196
>be the only person with a hullcracker
>do the most damage to the matriarch
>everyone looted it and I didn't get a single core
>only by the generosity of two others did I get any cores
I was ready to gun down whoever looked the most overweight
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>>547068520
You can pick out whose the slowest too lol.
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>>547066558
I just think they need to tone down the damage a bit. Currently the meta is just people using snipers and pistols since none of the other weapons compete. Why would you ever use anything else? The Ferro/Osprey easily wipe shields with one hit and then a pistol finishes them off almost instantly.
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I think the problem is the quests aren't radiant and are tied to progression once you get back to seperanza so the game having players doing fetch quests in an active warzonet feels like two different games overlapping. If you want to just get your quests done, you want every interaction with another raider to be friendly and it's annoying as shit to be KOS before you do the objective when you just hiked across the map to test a water sample. Even if you dont have anything, it's just annoying.

The quests should be more like how Battlefield Redsec handles their missions. Optional objectives beginning when you spawn in that are difficult BECAUSE of the other players but provide direct and immediate benefits for the match you are already in. The inventive is to gain a quick upper hand in the PVP or PVE.
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>>547068617
>thinking anyone is using the osprey
lmao
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>>547068706
Plenty of players are, but mostly it's the Ferro. They're basically the same gun.
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>>547068769
I've never met someone more misinformed before. Do you even play the game? It's anvils and venators, with a few stitchers thrown in
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post limit reached bros

>>547068869
>>547068869
>>547068869
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>>547068706
I just got the BP for it. Is it bad? I wanna snipe from the towers just to troll people
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>>547068895
Maybe you're just playing with the bad players?
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What if The Finals takes place on the space stations that the elites escaped onto from Earth? I mean all the matches are apparently big VR arenas so it's possible. I dunno I like the idea of the careless spacers eating up VR bloodsports while people are on Earth literally fighting the endless tides of ARC.
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>>547068928
It's really bad. It's a complete meme but it is at least "fun." I regularly take a match or two every once in a while just to snipe and annoy people all match. At best you'll down one or two people, most of the time you just pop someone's shields and maybe do a little more than that. The bolt cycling is too low and the damage isn't meaningfully higher than the ferro/anvil. It's literally 5 more damage at the cost of being bolt action
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>>547067345
Nah, I've had lots of situations where I got the drop on people and just spammed emotes on them, I don't even use a mic. I think a lot of KOSers in this game will instinctually refrain from bullshit once ist clear you're on a level playing field and they can't ambush you anymore. Also don'T team up with randos as a rule, cooperating to take down some Arc is fine but after that I keep turned to them until they are out of sight.

>>547067531
>but doing scav runs to get scrap to upgrade guns to shoot other people doing scav runs sounds like being hooked up to a dialysis machine.

Its why so few people actually play Tarkov, but this game is so hilariously generous with loot that a single decent scav run will easily enable you to craft up multiple basic kits, and unless you die like every other raid you will end up with so much shit you ignore 90% of loot anyways as you can churn out green and blue shit til Kingdom come just from your stash. The only thign that makes gear loss really hurt is if you don't have the Blueprint, but you shouldn't take out gear like this on a raid unless you want to use it for something specific or don't mind losing it.
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>>547066889
He is genuinely, wholeheartedly, not trolling. It opens up the armour to aim the flamethrowers, you have like half a second to blast it.
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>>547063726
punch me daddy
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For the flamer ARCs too you can wait for them to open their little side panels when they "search" and it's usually a one shot
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>nooo what about my bp's

the 2 pistols are basically the best guns you can use at different stages of the game lol. could just buy anvil and renegade off trader your whole game and do 100% of content easily
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>>547050956
Buy and ad faggot. This guy is one of the failed dark and darker "creators" who openly exploits every bug in that shitshow of a game. Then crys about people exploiting security lockers?

Inb4 carebear. I pvp every raid im in, uploading a "how to 3rd party" and pretend its pvp is a joke and his replies in the comments just show how desperate he is be to considered an elite gamer as he exploits the shotgun animation bug. For example in one instance he is crying about people calling him slurs in Arc but spent months uploading himself calling people retard and faggot in dark and darker as if he doesn't us the same no no words.



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