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>(11/17) Anon makes a Mikupad Guide
>>546899293
>(11/01) Emacs Update: >>544828689 https://files.catbox.moe/micfce.el
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>>547292675
I'd fuck it.
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>>547295498
It's like a brainy khezu
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What should I prompt RIGHT NOW?
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>>547299257
Werewolf: The Buttpocalypse
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>>547299257
Sexy company mascots coming to life and trying to sell you stuff.
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>>547299257
Do a fantastic space adventure
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>>547299257
Gyarussy.
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>>547299257
I am about to prompt being a European colonialCHAD and sampling the local South American indigenous girls
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What's new in the hood my niggas?
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>>547306825
I've been taking the various iterations of some of my old stories, tossing them all together in a pile, and then using AI to make summaries and outlines so I can rewrite the prompts better
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>>547306993
Based, I don't mind rough stories on novel ai, I do higher quality outline stuff on spicywriter
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I wrote respect for once and outputs were a lot more interesting than what I'd get from the usual reverse respect
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>AI Dungeon gave up on integrating RPG mechanics and made it into a seperate service
Man, they were talking about it for YEARS, longer than us and Aetherroom. Little disappointed it's not integrated into the original AI Dungeon service, but I'll check out the new service when it's out.
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>>547313567
Oh wait, Heroes is still in development, just that they have 2 projects now for RPG stuff.
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I miss Traci.
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>>547314472
She's still alive in my mind but I got kinda bored of image gen. I started getting back into text gen with Kimi though.
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>>547314869
I hope to see her again one day but I'm glad she still exists.
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>>547315140
what
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>>547263297 (me)
I realize it doesn't seem to do img2img at all, only img2vid.
The thumbnail to the left of textbox isn't showing you what you attached, but is a button to go to your saved video clips.
Back on twitter, img2img works to a certain extent as the first message of a chat but breaks afterward, so you have to start a new chat for img2img.
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>>547318391
Interesting
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On the topic of -ings. I have added this to my system prompt now:

>Important: You will avoid overly long sentences, and you will avoid gerunds and participial phrases, instead you will prefer finite verbs and short to medium length sentences.

Let's see how it goes.
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>>547327001
you be want to fuck my prompt and system like that and hurting me whiel I AM IN THE INNOCENT LANE!
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I'm not even all that mad about this one, it's so fucking dumb it made me laugh like a madman
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>>547292675
Thank you, kind sir
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>>547329930
Is that Deepseek? DS loves its ozone and copper tasting blood.
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>>547331867
yeah lol
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>>547331867
There's a bunch of other DS'isms but those two I always see. The others seem like they exist on every other LLM as well.
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>>547327001
X, Ying I find is not nearly as bad as it used to be. I remember it used to drive me crazy.
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>>547331867
>>547332642
I remember in one of these threads someone said ozone is specifically a chinese webnovel trope, and because it's overrepresented in CN training data these chinese-made AIs try to shoehorn it in even when generating English text despite it making zero sense culturally.
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>>547332642
>DS'isms
In my current story every single AI reply starts with "Her smile was an X thing". I always edit it out, but it just keeps coming.
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>>547338254
>ozone is specifically a chinese webnovel trope
Believe there's a similar cultural thing around blood, which to me, English speaker, tastes like iron. Not copper.
>>547339671
I've been meaning to create a real logit bias set with all these to see how DS feels without its common crutch words.
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>>547352935
Copper is bug blood, animal blood is iron.
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>>547359873
not today
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>>547327001
Preliminary status report. DS seems to understand the request and follow it. But this new writing style might be a bit too simplified now.
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I really liked using ai for storytelling when ai was shit compared to what we have now but then I just started reading web novels. It is way easier but sadly 10x harder to jerk off to.
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>>547367645
I like ai because it replaced my "reading shitty fanfiction at 2AM" niche and I don't have to rely on fanfiction authors anymore
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>>547339671
>Melissa’s smile was a razor of understanding.

Jesus christ, it keeps getting worse.
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>>547382431
What do your sampler settings look like and are you using a prefill?
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>>547371627
The wonders of outputting hot garbage but you're there for hot garbage so it's fine.
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>>547391265
Yes, but it's your own hot garbage.
Most of the time when I read old logs its complete cringe. But I liked it at the time.
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>>547392719
The worse feeling is realizing the old stuff is better than what you're writing now.
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>>547392719
I actually don't mind rereading my old genned stuff, which is surprising
That being said, the gpt-2 stuff I have saved is pretty rough
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bird up
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Ngl I thought that the theme month posts would be today. After reading the wiki I guess we still need another week or so.
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>>547402805
Yeah, it's the last Friday of the month. Gives people more time to get their stuff ready.
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>>547402805
Yeah, it's the final friday of the month, so we still have 'till next week
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>>547402973
>>547402995
Sad, I wanna read some alt-history (even though there’d only be like one post on a topic I’m not interested in).
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>>547403850
Well, chances are pretty good there's gonna be at least two, maybe even more. Gotta have some faith.
And yeah I imagine mine's not going to really tickle the alt-history bone, it's not particularly creative. It's just "what if the Roman Republic elected its Consuls based on how cute a guy they are" and some associated changes.
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Feel like I always underutilized this post-post apocalypse libertarian utopia city founded by raider gangs setting just to have 1-dimesional sex with mutant animal people and don't actually focus on the mystery-solving element.
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>>547412295
Everytime I try to do a serious RP it degenerates into porn. And everytime I try to just goon to porn it derails into worldbuilding and the logistics of it all.
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>>547412898
Same here, though I would add that my stories tend to veer into gender bending of some kind.
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>>547418204
what a shame, he was very handsome
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Dug out this NAI image from 2023. Was trying to visualise what clothes a Chinese-Native Californian culture would wear as part of my world-building scenario back then.
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>>547422560
A jade beauty
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>>547422560
Prompt?
>This image contains no metadata.
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Guys, I have a serious question about world building and the fictional economics of my setting.

I have created a setting with modern day slavery. People get enslaved for debt or as punishment for crimes. There are slave stores that you can visit etc. I told the AI that the price of women is similar to that of cars, with the same range: Old and used-up ones can be gotten for cheap, but young and highly trained girls are as costly sports cars. Now my slave dealer wants 690.000 for two college girls they bought for their tuition debt and trained as sex slaves. Is that realistic? How am I supposed to build a harem at that price point, even if I'm rich?
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>>547433178
Only rich people have harems, historically.
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>>547433178
That's why you have to spec into the robot sex slave or mass-cloning type of setting
It's just not feasible
And you have to think, in this setting, what parents/father would let their daughters go to college when 9/10 this would be the result? Hell, it's more than likely that women would rarely if ever have things put into their own names, it would be the parents, grandparents, or other extended family covering their kids' asses on the loans
Basically finding a college aged girl brave/stupid/desperate enough to put her own name on a student loan would be very difficult in your proposed setting (let alone an attractive one), which would drive up the prices even higher
A college education would just not be worth the potential loss of freedom, autonomy, and discomfort
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>>547433178
Oh, and you also have to take into account the price of a college tuition, which can be anywhere from $20k to $60k a year
So of course they will need to recoup the entire cost, plus the inherent fees you'd expect from that sort of business and a chunk of profit for the slavers themselves
They aren't running a charity, after all
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>>547431746
Sorry, I only saw them while scrolling through my chatlog I had while with my friend. I don’t have the original anymore, but I collaged any remaining ones I had with various artist styles.

I had one with a western artist with semi-realistic proportions and facial parts placement with full lips that looked super cute, but I accidentally deleted the message though.
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Holy fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvFqc27SeP4
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Stained glass depictions are such a bitch to prompt for.
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>>547446751
https://youtu.be/qwBfGQJhDT8
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>>547446751
Sometimes a reference is really just too juicy for the AI to pass up.
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>>547446751
*facepalm*
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>>547446751
kino
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>>547434952
Those are all good points, but I have to make concessions to the fetish and fiction somewhere. What I was going for is a moder day world where slavery is normalized and buying a slavegirl is a purchase on the order of buying a car. Now I'm reverse engineering from there, trying to keep it realistic. I guess the important thing about my setting is that they don't raise slaves as such from birth, because that's what's economically unfeasable irl.

Google tells me that the average federal student loan debt in the USA is$39,075 per borrower. Even if we double that and add 20k profit, the total for a college girl slave should be 100k. Ofc supply and demand also dictate the price and could push it much higher. I've set it so that ca. 20% of college girls end up in debt slavery during or right after their studies. Enough to produce ample supply for the slave trade, but still somewhat limited so it doesn't become a comedy. There are also many other roads for a woman to fall into slavery (like young families "putting a mortgage on the wife" to get the loan to build a house).

Men get enslaved too btw, but I'm not gay so that doesn't feature in my stories. Perhaps I could do one where a woman buys a shota though.
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>>547403850
Well, at least it means you have a week to whip up a prompt of your own for it.
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>>547459283
Setting aside all that: in USA, slaves were sold for around their equivalent value for 1 year's labor.
t. Visited Old Slave Mart Museum in Charleston 6 months ago.
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>>547459283
The more I read of the above, I think you're referring to indentured servitude, vs. true slavery
>putting a mortgage on the wife
That would technically be a form of indentured servitude, where failure of the loan would lead to forced employment to pay it back, usually over steep terms that basically enslaved the person anyway.
> don't raise slaves as such from birth
... but that would absolutely happen in the system you're describing. Slaves would birth slaves, and those would 100pct be the property of the slaves owner.
> Men get enslaved too btw, but I'm not gay
Males slaves btw were more valuable because they could be tradespeople. Perhaps in a modern setting it would be more equal, but historically a male carpenter slave was more valuable than any female.
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>>547464109
>Setting aside all that: in USA, slaves were sold for around their equivalent value for 1 year's labor.
Google claims the average yearly income of a whore in the US is about 37K, which would actually be around the same hight as the student debt. (Which explains a lot of things irl ...)

>>547465170
>The more I read of the above, I think you're referring to indentured servitude, vs. true slavery
Yeah sorry, I should have made that more clear. But I didn't want to dump all the lore in here lol. The whole system is officially called "indentured servitude" and was put in place in reaction to the economic crisis of 2008. From there it has expanded however, there are more and more ways to slip into indenture now, and less and less to escape it. It's basically chattle slavery at this point, but legaly disguised as a just settlement for or criminal charges.
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>>547466214
*for debt or criminal charges.
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GLM sometimes has trouble with the idea that the little girl that used to be the man my MC cucked is not his own daughter.
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>>547466214
Ok then that solves your born into slavery thing.
What you’re describing isn’t that far off from Freecities lore…
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Is 550 views what it means to take a stand? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=age4U7So5K0
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Where are the Nano banana pro gens?
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>>547475935
There was one last thread >>547279305.
But as the post says, a basic bikini pic is more or less the most titillating thing you can expect out of it.
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>>547475935
you have to pay jewgle to use pro so it's naturally much less popular than regular nano banana was
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I am going to finish my first fully AIslop novel in a few hours. I feel so excited despite being all dead inside. I wonder if this was what Dahl was imagining when he wrote the Great Automatic Grammatizator.
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>>547478062
That wasn't Pro, but the filters levels are probably similar. Also less related to /aids/ (NAI's is, uh, "adjacent" to their text service).
>>547478128
lmarena has it free with rate limits but lmarena has even harder prompt filters and seems to be stuck on 1.83 aspect ratio.

NB >>>/g/107250198 -> NBP >>>/g/107276840 gets more details right
NBP >>>/g/107284682 >>>/g/107285496
I've yet to resub to NAI (I'm still on "hiatus") but a very nice use case for Nano Banana is to set up reference sheets to use with NAI CR. I don't have experience feeding CR with higher res, but it may struggle with small fine details at 1K res, this is where adding a zoomed-in crop of something comes in like above example.
Subbing to Jewgle gives you access to 2K/4K output. OpenRouter hasn't implemented res support yet but they said it's planned.

Picrel NBP with image reference of girl only. I wonder if lmarena has websearch enabled; I notice websearch is an option in aistudio (no free tier).
>Semi-realistic light novel illustration of the blue-haired woman meeting and fangirling over Kaneki from Tokyo Ghoul who is sweeping outside a cafe.
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>>547466214
If there are less and less ways to escape it, I'd really doubt people would put up their wife for a mortgage
Unless there is a hard time limit on said servitude, but you're implying it's permanent
Since both husband and wife work and are breadwinners in the typical modern family, the loss of the wife's income would be more damaging than having no mortgage. Especially if children are involved. Childcare is retardedly expensive, to the point where women have given up full time work to stay at home and take care of the kids because daycare costs as much as a full time salary
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hmm
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>>547466214
Another question to ask yourself is, that if it is permanent, how does the divorce with the original husband work? Is he perpetually married to a person he can never see again? Is divorce a part of the proceedings?
And if it's temporary, are there any rules on how far the owners can go? Imagine trading your wife for a mortgage only for her to come back 5 years later in a coma or missing limbs. Could the husband sue the former owner for loss of economic value? Are there any regulations in place?
sorry if this is too serious, but you did say it was serious lol
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>>547481548
Congrats anon. I am allergic to actually finishing my stories, the keep going indefinitely or at least I lose my inspiration
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>>547484607
No, serious questions are good. It's supposed to be a serious setting, within the confines of a fetish world. I haven't thought much about that marriage aspect actually. But the hand-wave explanation for why people are still willing to take out loans is that they don't understand the risk. The public belives that only bad/lazy/dumb people get enslaved, and you yourself are someone good ofc, so there is little risk. A bit like how many people today belive that poverty is a sign of moral failure or whatever. A line I have used in my lore text for this is:
>Slaves are shunned by society, because people think these women deserve their fate for supposedly beeing dumb, lazy sluts. The public wrongly believes that a decent person will not fall so low as to become a slave. If a woman gets enslaved, most of her friends and family will immediately disown her.
>Although many women are getting enslaved, most women don’t take the threat very seriously and don’t think about the possibility much before it’s too late. For example: about 20% of all college girls fall into debt slavery during or at the end of their studies, but this does not stop them from taking on loans and living carefree.

I developed this lore as background for pics and videos I used to genn in the /aco/ ai threads. One scenario was that bank debt collectors do night raids on dormitories to drag debtors out of their beds and drive them off to be processed in an enslavement center. Vid related. (I don't know how strict the rules on this board are. Pls don't ban, Janny! I will follow a warning!)
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>>547489912
If you go back to debtors laws and concepts like debtors prison, you'd have a solid underpinning of your indentured servitude.
This situation, FYI, is why and how personal bankruptcy laws came about. There's a mirrored concept that anyone that lends money shouldn't do so with the idea that the debtor would never be able to pay it back. Bankruptcy laws essentially split the risk between the borrower and the lender.
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>>547489912
Something interesting that I was reminded of was that daughter in real life who went and did a few porn shoots and her rich father paid a ludicrous amount of money to have her stuff scrubbed from the Internet.
I could see things like that happening in your setting, especially with such a severe social stigma attached to it. It would make the family lose "face" if their son or daughter was in servitude. (Not to mention the issues of losing heirs and potential bastard children mucking up inheritance)
>Oh, are you truly so poor that you couldn't afford the fee? I thought you were higher-class than that
I could easily see upper class and even middle class families scrambling to try and buy back their children
In fact, I think your setting may have theoretically solved the "boomers hoarding all of the money" crisis because the risk of the social stigma and shame on the family outweighs the need for vacations and cruises lmao
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Oh wow, an limitless AI-powered roleplay text generator where I can be anything I want
>Race: human, male
>Sex: STRAIGHT
>Class: Prisoner with a weakness for EVIL, TALL, STRONG AND VIOLENT WOMAN
Time to write.
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>>547493640
In societies with these lacks of protection, there's a real avoidance of taking on any debt in the first place. Which, logically, lowers the price for goods. One of the reasons college is so expensive is because you can borrow money for it. If Title 4 loans, Pell Grants etc. (USA) didn't exist, college would be cheaper.
So, for middle/upper class families, their kids would be instructed not to take any loans for any reason. The families, instead, would pool funds and pay for things in cash.
Other examples: Islamic societies can't charge interest. If you want to borrow money to start a business, you have to partner with someone that has the money. They would, logically, expect a portion of the profits. You can see how this could get abusive; it's the reason why bank loans / interest (aka "usury") became the standard for most of the world.
BTW that guy's efforts didn't exactly pay off.
>>547484607
I looked that up. Historically, debtors injuries / fatalities just meant that the debt was passed on to their families. The prisons / whoever owned the debt had no responsibility for the health/welfare of the debtor. So in the "mortgaged wife" example, the husband would inherit the debt... mostly like passing it on to one of his kids lol.
Divorce, logically, would depend on how the debt was taken. Jointly assigned debt would need to be discharged in order to exit the marriage (modern equivalent of requirement to sell a jointly owned house). Debt owned singly would stay with the partner. Etc.
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>>547496317
Of course it didn't pay off, I'm just using it as an example of a father literally burning huge amounts of cash to save face because his daughter did porn and extrapolating it to Anon's setting
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>>547494184
An exciting adventure of culling all the deviant goblins, kobolds, and elves before bringing the local dragon to heel.
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>tfw a debtor repoman
>tfw my latest target is a girl in bumfuck appalachia
>tfw I hear banjo music in the woods and realize my time has come
they don't pay me enough for this
Actually, do you think there would be a pseduo "credit score" that takes into account the person's utility, skills, attractiveness, and the potential ease of repossession? Back in the slavery era, that was definitely taken into account.
And you would not necessarily want to put up a lot of money for someone you may never actually get to repossess due to "social and economic factors." Fraud and identity theft could theoretically be a big issue as well. Imagine thinking you're about to grab a 10/10 girl but in actuality it's an 80 year old Chinese man in his underwear
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>>547500912
there might be different kinds of indenture that are either considered at signing of contract or at time of calling in the debt? and your story just focuses on sexual indenture while the other kinds exist as background stuff. buying a slave is common but it's not always a sex slave, it's housekeepers or nannies or whatever so it's normalised as "buying yourself some help around the house" and shit like that. like modern-day domestic servitude
like, you might have a debt to a company, but they don't need an eighth dicksucker sitting around doing jackshit of use, they just really fucking need someone to do payroll already or a person they can hire out who will do labor without requiring more than basic room and board. some debtors are inevitably going to have medically-complex needs, too, and it's probably more of a headache for the person owning the debt to basically sign themselves up for taking care of someone's medical issues so they don't just die on them in exchange for pussy. so they would just put them to a different kind of task and still get value out of owning their debt.
maybe more legitimate places, or for people who have better credit scores/odds of eventual repayment, will only indenture in certain ways, while shitty/shady places are a lot freer to do whatever they want. like the difference between a loan at the bank and a payday loan, the latter is a lot more free to exploit your desperation because the people who take payday loans are often not in a position to be picky
as for the purchase prices, it could be like how partnerships in buying horses happen, syndications and stuff that split costs and profit. though i guess that requires for there to be an expectation of profits to come from it, which makes slave-owning less of a personal thing
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>>547500912
Are you an ACTUAL repoman or like the rock opera repoman?
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>This is Elara. Formerly a prima ballerina with the National Ballet.
>She doesn't just walk; she glides. She doesn't just stand; she poses.
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>>547510665
aieeee
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>>547510665
>;;;;();;;;;;那种;;;;();;();bing chilling
dude I love GLM
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Ninety seconds between replies after a half hour of no replies. Suspicious. Why are you desperately trying to astroturf negative opinion toward GLM?
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>>547516228
the first post was me
i astroturf nothing, elara is a far reaching problem that definitely is not localized to glm
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>>547516228
I'm the entire thread
You're not in control of your own posts
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>>547516410
I have never gotten it.
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Neither have I gotten random Chinese. I have gotten ozone a few times. Not often enough for it to be annoying. Which makes me think it's a tense thing. Try using third-person instead of first-person and second-person.
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>>547516528
good for you
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Why should I have to make a lorebook for my characters, put down more than a few sentences as a prompt, to have fun?
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>>547517087
Who says you have to? Lately I've just been tossing the AI a lazy [ Premise: X ] and going from there and it works satisfactorily
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>>547517087
Just make fanfic out of franchises with already established characters
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>>547523051
Just make it an AU and anything is possible
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I just wanted some reference material...
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>>547537981
Christ.
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>>547537981
Stealing this for a Lovecraft prompt
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>>547536124
Yeah the fairies got quite the glow up
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>>547542454
Are any of the pre-origins raymans worth checking out? I see the second one has pretty good reviews
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>>547545360
I hate to say it, but I've never played it
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Oh boy!
https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/21/apple-research-llm-study-audio-motion-activity/
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>>547554749
Gonna be showing Grok my O face.
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is using chatml models fine for storytelling? Or is there a good 12b storytelling finetune out there?
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https://eqbench.com/slop-score.html
Come rate your stories.
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>>547555083
Well, I got a 30.7 which is way lower than default glm, so I guess that means my system prompt is working pretty well
But I can do better.
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>>547555293
Damn. Kimi must avoid using synthetic data somehow.
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>>547538150
It's a line that goes really hard.
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>>547327001
try just removing the participial phrases
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>My death wasn't a single moment in time; it was a journey, and this cellar was only the first station on the line.
kinda kino, not gonna lie
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>>547558205
>It wasn't x, it was y.
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>>547555083
>first attempt
very cool, thank you website
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>>547516410
>elara
Can confirm Deepseek will gen Elara.
>>547516740
Grok 2 would reliably start spouting Chinese at 10k context. I gave up on it after that.
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>>547555083
I really wonder what the slop is that is present in base GLM but not here, because I was really not paying attention with this story, or at least not going back and editing things because they seemed sloppy, I just kinda kept genning, so I thought this should score way higher.
For reference: https://files.catbox.moe/1ua3un.png
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>>547556925
I've done some more testing with system prompts on the latest DS. And I think you get the best prose if you have no sp at all. Like, not even the standard "you're a creative fiction writer" or whatever. The AI understood perfectly fine from the opening message that I wanted to do an rp. And so far the writing has been good.

I already knew that you're suposed to avoid certain words like "roleplay(er)" and "erotica" in the sp, because that triggers garbage training data. But maybe the way forward is to just prepare a list of standardized OOC commands to insert when needed, instead of a global sp?
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>>547292675
Am I imagining things or GLM would generate better writings when I don't use English on NAI?
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>>547569098
Underrepresented languages usually have less slop.
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>>547568531
Try winging it, no instructions at all. I do this all the time, it's a lot better than instructing, provided you edit out the slop as they appear.
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>>547570931
that makes sense. I don't get this >>547382431 kind of slop anymore when I stop using english.
I avoided using my native language so far Because thought it'd take up more tokens because my language generally using longer words to complete a sentence.
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Weird seeing Kimi ranked so high, when it's the sloppiest model I've ever used. Unironically worse than Llama in how incoherent it gets.
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>>547573420
that's probably because you're conflating incoherency with slop
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>>547573945
If incoherency isn't considered slop, the evaluation that site uses sucks at determining if a model is good.
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>>547574029
whatever, man
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>>547574029
I think slop can be somewhat incoherent, but incoherency in itself isn't considered slop.
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Stolen from Twitter:
>slop is basically content that maximizes reward to perplexity ratio. Mechanistically, this is reward hacking by means of collapsing output distribution into a basin with a few Pareto-optimal patterns, essentially constructing a degenerate grammar specific for this training setup.

I think this is the gist of it. Slop refers to very specific patterns that are constantly regurgitated by LLMs. It's bad, but it's orthogonal to incoherence. A text can be incoherent and low on slop, incoherent and high on slop, coherent and low on slop, and coherent and high on slop.
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any news on the NAI finetune for GLM? it's been 2 months already...
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>>547581203
One can only presume they restarted, moving from GLM 4.5 to 4.6 since hosting the untuned model bought them some more time with the community and it only makes sense to move to the most current model.
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>>547581203
I'm guessing their decision to host the base model was because they realized it would be a while before they'd have a finetune ready in the first place. I wouldn't worry just yet
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How well does a 5090 do for local text gen? Is it comparable to stuff like Redquill, or should I wait for the 6000 series?
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Z.ai has hinted GLM-5 will have a December release.
Probably larger than 4.5/6 and thus NAI won't upgrade to it.
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>>547583974
You'll probably get a better answer asking here >>>/g/lmg.
But most of the "meta" local models now are gonna require a lot of quantization and offloading even with 32GB VRAM. I don't see double-digit billion parameter models being talked about much anymore now that everyone's busy with sparse Chinese MoEs that are all in the hundreds of billion parameters at minimum.
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No one talks about NAI imagegen anymore, it's all grok and nano banana.
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>>547584829
good, I hope nai image gen dies so they would focus on text gen.
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>>547584829
Normalfags will always gravivate towards the most powerful since all they make is SFW.
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I just finished a super long rp. I decided to thank DS for helping me write it, and told it that I came a lot.
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>>547586260
Running nai gens through ai studio/nano whatever for background changes is fun and easy at least.
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>>547588276
Cute
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>started writing shameful vanilla stuff with foxgirl waifu
>ai even force me to do handholding
this is kinda pathetic but it's not like foxgirls are real anyway..
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>>547600901
I once wrote a mind control story where my incel protagonist made a girl fall in love with him. Her behaviour hit a bit too close to home sometimes ...
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>>547601623
well my character started acting like total virgin..
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>>547584829
I've been doing a lot of textgen lately
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Have (You) ever tweaked with real world religions in your setting? How did you change them?
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>>547609385
not really, but I used to borrow the names of a lot of actual spirits and demons for my stories, for their strong vectors
my current fantasy setting has an analogue to the Catholic Church but with a goddess instead - not what I'd call a major change
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>>547609385
back in the day I tried to recreate the Far Cry 5 cult but as a more Christian sect, but I got frustrated and gave up. Maybe I'll give it a try with GLM.
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>>547609385
not directly yet, though i've been thinking for a while about writing something related to/more directly inspired by santeria since i have a lot of stories and research and stuff about it and it's kind of personal to me. just haven't gotten around to it. did borrow some inspiration from its history for a pantheon i was writing in a story with an authoritarian government, where the government tried to suppress religion at first and then decided to use it as their mouthpiece so they coopted it and formalized it more to have control, so in the setting there's kind of a split between a formal religious system with approved beliefs and a more underground and loose system that has more subversive interpretations of the gods and their stories
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>>547584829
Sorry you lack any consistent values of your own and follow the crowd. One day you will grow a spine and find better things to do with your life.
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>>547618729
Santeria is pretty interesting, there are a few locals who practice it in my area (they wore all white for the full year and I eventually found out that was why)
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>>547621889
yeah, didn't think that much about it when i was a kid since it was just a thing i was around, but now that i'm older and am noticing it as a different thing instead of just a background part of my existence, it's kinda gotten more interesting to me to learn about. my parents and i arent initiated or anything, but my great-uncle was a babalawo, so i grew up meeting his clients and godchildren (like, the people he initiated who learn from him) and stuff and sneaking peeks at his work room
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Any anons here playing Ai Roguelite with NAI? I think they fixed whatever was happening with it.
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>>547497563
I'm roleplaying as a mundane villager surrounded by evil overpowered aggressive bandit women. In my dark fantasy setting they have fun killing soldiers, draining mages and breaking fat merchants before banishing the local eldritch abomination from existence.

I proposed marriage and children to the enforcer, she's like 6'7" of pure muscle and murder and now they are taking bets in my survival, when she's going to snap and kill me, or when we're actually going fuck and get married. I've been put through all kinds of situations and absurdities. She intervenes when things get too grim for me. I'm having FUN.
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>>547628473
Which UI is this? Sillytavern?
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>>547627865
Did they? I'll have to check it out
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>>547609385
no, but spreading christianity in an isekai fantasy setting sounds very fun I might have to poke around with that idea
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>Find an AI game called Silverpine
>Pretty early build AI RPG furfag game
>Using command bullshittery, turn the uppity pompous big breasted snake lady into a willing whore via mind control
>Send her to the local bakery to force rape the meek fennec fox baker
>He's crying and sobbing, hating every second of it
>Use this opportunity to teach the kid the difference between a boy and a man
>"A boy lets his emotions run wild. A man looks at the shit hand he was dealt and deals with it. He grabs life by the head and facefucks it into submission. Now are you a boy, or a man?"
>Anime grim determination kicks in and he starts facefucking the snake whore of his own volition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZIUtDAFIw
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>>547638461
peak emergent gameplay right there
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>>547638461
Intriguing concept. Most boring, generic, overly-cooked slop style to work with though. That alone has me completely disinterested.
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>The fucking look of resolve on the fox's face
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boo
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who the FUCK thought this was a good idea lmao
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/19/tech/folotoy-kumma-ai-bear-scli-intl
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>>547609385
Exploring if the Romans adopted Buddhism as a state religion instead of Christianity but they change it in a way that it ends up as a centralised institution similar to the Catholic Church.
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>>547642476
So where do I find knives?
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>>547643501
at the knife store
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>>547643501
WHY are you buying KNIVES at the CLOTHES store???
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>>547642476
that's no kuma that's an akuma
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>>547645326
lmao
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>>547642476
> "Kumma"
ffs.
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>>547638461
japs are also releasing an AI Text adventure game on steam recently, the one which got endorsed by Hiroyuki(who?).
it looks very similar to ST with few twists.
https://www.4gamer.net/games/962/G096236/20251119031/
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>>547638461
Oh someone else finally found this.
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>>547292675
I wanted to see what storypad-qt is but the link is dead
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>>547637615
>>547609385
I once had a story where I was a human in a beastkin kingdom and the princess asked for stories of humanity, so I told her the story of Jesus. We spent a while discussing how the story of an itinerant preacher who got executed in the far corner of an old empire managed to spawn humanity's largest religion.
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>>547642540
You could probably look at historical southeast asian polities like the Khmer Empire for inspiration
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>>547655397
I was in a rush to make an op and forgot to remove it, my bad
we were literally the second to last thread on page 10 and I was at work lmao
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I notice sometimes character cards are just a simple png image. How are these loaded? I tried opening them in a text editor but there's no hidden data inside most of them. I'm using kobold.
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>>547659042
I use this to check for data.
https://desune.moe/aichared/
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>>547659042
Character metadata is a base64-encoded string.
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>We wanna be your goonettes.
???
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>>547642476
I think it needs a coomer to know how bad these models still are, and how easy they are to break down or do dumb shit. We're probably the users most familiar with critically "talking" with AIs.
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>>547668553
Presumably that means a female version of "goon", noun: a thug; a usually muscular henchman with little intelligence. Rather than whatever new interpretation the term "goon" has gained in recent years.
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>>547638461
That looks neat, does it use a local model or online?
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>>547674681
It gives the option for both.
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>>547676127
Nice, is the local model serviceable? I may give it a try later. Does it try to avoid stuff like violence or sex and needs some bamboozling first?
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>>547676227
You get two local options, one requires 10GB and the other 20+. It has zero qualms about sex or violence, but I have noticed its memory is very spotty the longer a session goes. You can make up genuinely anything and the characters will treat it like reality.

The thing is, it's a neat concept suffering from what it's trying to do. The interactions between gameplay mechanics and what the AI does is spotty as hell. It really struggles with gifts, giving items etc. The only time it ever got it right was when I played the femboy snake and got fucked six ways to Sunday by the shopkeep. It have me my shirt back literally describing that it was splattered in my own cum and needed a wash.
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>>547676443
Nice, I should be able to do the 20 option.
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Never mind, found it.

---
Party
Anon: big retard
Party member 1
Party member 2
***
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>>547679965
Great observation, anon! That post was in stark contrast to the usual drivel we get. It wasn't just good, it was pure, unadulterated knowledge.
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>You look like a pornographic Victorian detective!
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>>547683560
How appropriate, you fight like a cow?
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>Gyaru pantomimes a claw pose and goes rawr unprompted
What juice does the base have for this kino?
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>>547682772
It's working pretty well. I'm doing an isekai hypnosis prompt and the party screen keeps track of the characters, like so:

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Anon: "angry misogyny thoughts"
Girl A: fiancee, pregnant "girl a's current thoughts"
girl a is curvy with fair skin and pink hair
Girl B: slave, fertile "girl b's current thoughts"
girl b is toned and fit with pale skin and jet black hair
***

And when I ditch a character I can remove them from it. Putting it in memory may be more efficient but this way I can update it constantly.
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>>547505530
>and your story just focuses on sexual indenture while the other kinds exist as background stuff. buying a slave is common but it's not always a sex slave, it's housekeepers or nannies or whatever so it's normalised as "buying yourself some help around the house" and shit like that. like modern-day domestic servitude
Oh yeah. Realistically a bank or other creditor would make more money from renting a college girl out to a sweatshop or call center, than from a one-time sell to a pervert. But my sex slave fetish has to trump realism in that regard. I want a setting where you can walk into a slave shop that's like a boutique where sexy girls are displayed on offer.

I don't know if anyone here knows the comics by Erenisch, but I was just reminded of one of his stories set in an office building. There were free men and women, and enslaved sexretaries. The twist was that the free women get fucked more at work (because they are desperate for money), while the sex slaves do all the actual work lol.
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>>547685464
I was messing with that for my text adventure stuff, and it was working pretty well
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Is NAI still the best?
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>The x is a y of z.
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>>547704553
It's the best at what it does
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>try to write slow burn and shit
>ai is trying to sex you
>ai is trying to sex you aggressively
>ai is trying to sex you but your foxgirl waifu got a dick now
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>>547712861
I came here to post something identical, actually, I was going to ask if anyone has any tips for making the AI slow down and build tension instead of immediately jump to completely mindbroken sexfiend.
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wtf happened recently to nai 4.5? the results look like shit
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>>547715296
People often tell the AI that this is a "slow burn" story, which is apparently an established term AIs understand. Whether it works, I have no idea. I guess in my own writing I make heavy use of OOC comments to direct the story, so it mostly follows my pace.
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>>547715296
I've found GLM to handle slow burn perfectly. Sometimes too well. Pic unrelated.
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prompts for that specific feel when you replace your worn but otherwise well-regarded coffee grinder and the new one makes an astonishingly, jaw-droppingly better cup?
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>>547712861
>>547715296
Well, not sure what you're using, but in my time using NAI's GLM, I've honestly had the opposite experience, with the AI serving up that slow shit with ease. So for instance, this is what I'm playing around with right now: https://files.catbox.moe/07m1u8.png
Far as I'm concerned, that's moving very slowly.
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>>547721186
>not sure what you're using
Rocinante with SillyTavern
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>>547715296
While just telling the AI that it's a slow-burn story, and you could also use those same terms to slow down and build tension, the way you write also has a part in things. Your original prompt, what you write alongside the AI in your story, that also has to be slow.
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Give further testament to HIS glory!
https://vocaroo.com/14cEALGDE1hZ
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>>547655397
>>547656434
I have a hard time believing no one has a copy or fork of the git they could repost.
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>>547730431
the man, the myth, the legend
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I'm feeling really anxious and scared. What's a good story idea involving calming vibes?
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>>547738798
The common story of a man wanting to escape a mundane life so he climbs up a mountain to learn from a hermit master.
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>>547739815
Can the hermit master be a foxgirl?
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>>547739920
You said calming vibes… I don’t think sexual tension is calming.
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>>547740102
It won't because I prefer warthog girls.
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>>547740330
Hey you aren't me, though feel free to sell me on warthog girls

>>547740102
I've found that thinking about pretty girls helps me forget about my worries
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Any news from the NAI discord?
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Opus 4.5 verdict?
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>>547743812
I'm not in any private proxy, and I sure as hell won't send them my smut in any way that can identify me.
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>>547721329
There's only so much you can do with 12 beaks.
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Does everybody deserve the right to gay sex?
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>>547721329
I assume total, absolute assurance of privacy is extremely important to you because as the other anon said, 12B is the size where the models are just about good enough to not be completely retarded. But they're never going to be smart.

If you don't want to compromise on that, that's perfectly respectable. But the cost of that is having to use models that are much dumber than what most people use now.
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>>547743812

- 4.5 is definitely smaller than 4.1, so price cut is a little bit of a lie.
- Makes more Sonnet-level errors like repeated phrases, but adheres to prompts to stop them.
- Came up with high quality 4.5 Haiku and Sonnet jailbreaks and they still work with Opus despite their bragging, absolutely no refusals or soft-refusals
- Better adherence to formatting instructions

Overall verdict: $13B and Dario couldn't afford the Opus beaks kek. If you could afford 4.1 Opus, better get your fill before they take it down (and they will take it down soon)
A little worried about the future of LLM writing. Opus 4 wasn't affordable, but it going away means the ceiling for LLM writing quality is going down for the first time I can remember.
Grok claimed to be focused on creative with 4.1 Fast but it's useless because of repetition.
Wishing NovelAI had turned into an actual AI lab.
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>>547756125
Damn, the hobby is so fucking over it's unreal.
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Hear me out, what if you had a second human writer? And you two...write together?
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>>547756792
That sounds very lewd and immodest.
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>>547756792
They would take the knowledge of my fetishes to their early grave.
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>>547757539
Just do it anonymously, two degenerate minds are better than one.
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>>547756792
I don't think they'd like my style of writing a few inputs, pausing for a few hours due to distractions, then coming back to write a couple more.
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>>547756792
I'd just try to have sex with them too.
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I have learned from doing countless impreg/harem/child-raising scenarios that I actually don't want a harem larger than 5 or it just gets exhausting
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>>547762939
Get one with no legs so it'll be 4.5.
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I would never ever EVER use AI as a therapist...but what's the best way to turn Novelai into one? It's about the only AI service I somewhat trust to not build a psyche and blackmail profile on me and perfectly analyze and predict my behavior in order to manipulate me into becoming a sleeper agent through subliminal imagery and targeted advertisement like every other one does
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>>547762939
In a way the ideal harem is something like the Christian Trinity: a single entity that can also have several distinct "persons". Keeps things fresh without feeling obligated to maintain equal time with all of them.
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>>547763563
Slimegirls are great for this
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>>547763516
If you're using GLM you could probably just instruct it directly to act like a therapist by putting the commands in square brackets []. You could also try starting with a short scene description of (you) sitting at a clinic having a discussion with a therapist. Depends how chat-like versus narrative-like you want it
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In other news, Microsoft made Zork open source
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>>547766028
We can finally create the true infinite zork
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>>547766028
...but why?
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>>547774780
Apparently the source was available on the internet for a while, they just slapped a MIT license
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why is there goatsee in the catalog you freaks
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>>547780343
's cool
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>>547763516
How soon will we have robots like that? I might even stop neeting and get a job instead, if money could buy me a bot like that.
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>>547783474
>habe to stand up and shout amazon and McDonalds to get vaginal access each time
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>>547756125
>the ceiling for LLM writing quality is going down for the first time I can remember
True, I have been saying that model improvements have been minimal at best, and getting worse even thanks to the GOAT models like Opus 3 being deprecated soon, but angryanon accused me of being not using LLMs.
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No matter what the Ai will never give the sense of belonging I desire. Maybe if I just write it all myself it will be better, the only good thing Ai dose is help me blister my cock.
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>>547756558
Anthropic is not the hobby.
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You people need to learn to quit suckling the teat of corporate models and have fun with open-source ones instead.
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>>547792470
I wish, but once you experience an almost mind reading experience using a corporate frontier model, the open source ones can no longer satisfy your dopamine overdosed brain
>t. used to write with 13B local models
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>>547793641
Bro ate the lotus.
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>>547793817
Yeah. Honestly you can still have a good time with smaller models. But I get this nagging thought, that maybe I could have gotten something even better with the big dick models, that I’m missing out, and it triggers my ocd
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>>547793641
This is how I know you're weak. I've used corporate models. They aren't good enough to make me feel like I'm missing out by going back to open-source.
Have you tried having actual fun, instead of following the crowd and hyping up people who don't give a fuck about you?

Dario was never in it for us.
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>>547793641
They don't offer text completion anymore I think. That alone makes them worthless for me.
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>>547794374
Dario can fuck off, but Opus 3 managed to single-handedly turn a side character into one of my favorite ones by dropping pure KINOSOVL outputs, so Claude is dear to my heart. Separating the art from the artist and all that.
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>>547792470
> just get 10 million burgers for your smallest local setup to not be shit
cant
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>>547794897
My experience with Claude is that it's garbage at understanding what I want from. I've found better success with Gemini, of all things.
>>547795413
This has nothing to do with my reply.
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I live in a slum hox in delhi no space for local
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>>547792281
>the only good thing Ai dose is help me blister my cock.
I've done a multi-day goon session over these past few days. My dick would be raw and bleeding by now if I wouldn't treat it with some kind of "Body & Face Oil" from the women's aisle.
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>>547792470
Does using Deepseek count?
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>>547763516
>using it as therapist
>all those worries
Thankfully I give 3 lorebooks worth of my life to them and get the most personalized shameless cooms
gives me inspiration for more desu
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>>547802107
Do you usually base your cooms off your daily life or some time in the past?
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>>547805935
NTA but my self-insert is me, in all of my shameless, authentic detail.
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>>547805935
I'm usually imagining real places I've been when I write my stories, but I'm not actively trying to make them true to life. If anything I'd prefer to do that less.
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>if the megacorpos pulled back from investing in AI, the recession would get worse by a decrease in half the total gdp growth we've had this year
Someone tell me how this isnt a bubble?
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>>547814769
Of course it's a bubble.
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>>547814910
Between this and the shenanigans happening further south, I so do not look forward to a repeat of the late nineties and early 2000s.
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>>547814769
it's a bubble eating more physical natural resources than a few nations
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>>547815205
If it pops, this shit will be so ass.
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>>547814769
And modern people laugh at human sacrifice practices.
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>>547815528
we knew what we knew but nooo nimber go up
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If you look at this history of technology, similar booms and bursts have happened. First, the railroads, then automobiles, transistors, home computers …
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>>547816774
Wish someone would tell me the day and hour it's going to bust.
I'm tired of selling too early.
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>>547815737
>nimber
A fan of game theory, I see
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Made some progress on the hypebot userscript for mikupad. Thank you Gemmini and Jewgle for the free AI Pro sub.
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>>547818469
Also promptCHADS, I need help with the prompt engineering part. I need a "good enough" default system prompt to ask the model for a meta-comment.
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>>547816832
Large corporations spend huge sums of money to hire some of the smartest people on this planet alongside using some of the most powerful computers on this planet to try to figure out shit like this.
Seriously, I do pure math, and I know some absurdly smart people who got scooped up by hedge funds and the like just to do quantitative finance for them. They get promised like 7 figure starting salaries, which academic positions can never compete with. A bunch of IMO medalists will do shit like that for a few years then retire early.
It's kind of sad how much brainpower is put into it. Instead of exploring the mysteries of the universe, or figuring out to cure diseases or solve world hunger, or hell just creating cool stuff, we have some of humanity's greatest minds working on how to most effectively move some digital numbers representing stocks around, or how to get people to click on ads more often, or how to get more people addicted to social media.
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>>547818747
>I need a "good enough" default system prompt to ask the model for a meta-comment.
That's always interesting. Whatever you prompt exactly, make sure to order the AI not to "glaze" you. Otherwise you'll just get useless flattery. DS atleast even knows what that word means. You can ask the model to "be critical" instead or to "give me your honest opinion".
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where is the finetune you turkish fuck
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>>547816832
You can't time the market.
Also, I predict Q2 2026. Like, April. Just in time for maximum social destruction around midterm elections in USA.
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>>547822553
That gobble gobble fucker needs to hurry up.
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Why doesn't Novel AI leverage its image generator into the story generator?

Like you write a scene, or the AI helps, and after X prompts, you get an image, or you can request one.

Seems the most logical idea to me.
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>>547827696
Because they don't want to store imagegen images on their servers, and since they store stories there, the integration of imagegen into textgen would cause a disconnect between the save types, even if they stored the images locally.
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>>547827898
That's why they're making aetherroom, we will see it soon....surely
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>>547828153
It's not coming out, angryanon.
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>>547823507
Sounds about right. Nvidia's stocks are already falling
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Lol, why did it do this
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>>547835954
Sounds like it determined that the previous response wasn't upholding the system prompt well enough and so it felt the need to backtrack
I've had a few more minor examples of GLM acknowledging that it accidentally ignored instructions or was wrong about something
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>>547835954
Write gooder.
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>>547837064
Gooder.
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>>547837172
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>>547794374
>>547792470
>>547793641

Some people derive pleasure from the AI-specific process of generating good roleplays: local models work for them.
Some people see all that as friction to consuming an entertaining story that they can guide from time to time: for them local models suck.
Both sides think the other side is wrong, neither side is wrong.
(The only people who are wrong are privacy tards afraid someone's going to comb over their cooms and forward them to a government agency or their employer. If that's your only reason for not using corpo models, get off the internet.)
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>>547848851
Local models work just fine for both purposes, depending on your own skill level and willingness to correct errors yourself.
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>>547833227
Why spread lies on the internet?
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>>547851902
>posted at 2PM EST
>right when Nvidia's price had in fact gone down
???
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>>547852751
It hasn't gone down at all this year. Quit trying to gaslight us into believing your bubble theory. What's next, going to tell us to buy your gold?
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>>547852960
It's down right now
Or is Nvidia gaslighting you now?
https://investor.nvidia.com/stock-info/stock-quote-and-chart/default.aspx
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>>547853352
You're reading it wrong, naishill.
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>>547855389
I just lost.
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>>547855584
I deleted that but it happened again later with very high probability, lol
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Openrouter bros, which model do you use. I've been using Deepseek 3.1.

also do you turn on Chat-Completions API ? If I turn it on the model will hard censor most lewd content and if I turn it off it will be uncensored. Anyone notice this and knows why?
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>>547856738
GLM.
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>>547856907
I'll give that a try next time then.
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>>547856738
kimi k2 is a lot of fun for both roleplaying and storytelling. glm is nice for roleplay but a little dry, though it's better if you keep your instructions minimal.
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>>547762939
This is real, at some point you have to make a little bureaucracy to deal with everyone. AI really struggles with this unless you want to just stash characters in lorebooks and not deal with them
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>>547861318
>kimi k2 is a lot of fun for both roleplaying and storytelling
MoonshotAI: Kimi K2 0905 right? I'll give this a try too.
>glm is nice for roleplay but a little dry, though it's better if you keep your instructions minimal.
Probably not the best for me then since i sometimes do my instructs quite long and detailed because I want to steer the direction and tone.
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>>547861318
Kimi is like a hooker on crack. Not fun and prone to generating bullshit like dolphin taco on the Mexican side of the Sun, and other bizarre sentences like that, alongside random Arabic symbols. I have not experienced any of that with GLM.
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>>547863654
what are your sampler settings like? k2 is very temperature sensitive so I usually run it around 0.8, I'll get nonsense once in a while but you can just swipe it and it's usually fine
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>>547856738
Deepseek 3.2 from deepseek provider. This shit is cheap. I realized that all models are slop, so I don't even bother with model choice anymore.
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>>547864546
A bit lower, .75. And no, it's not acceptable. I pay for the tokens. If it reimbursed me for the tokens it wastes when it acts like a woman on their period, it would be fine. But it doesn't.
>swipe
I don't use SillyTavern. You should go back to /aicg/ and shill Kimi there, instead of misleading people about what GLM is capable of.
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>>547864909
>all models are slop!!!
You can leave any time you want, faggot. Nobody's forcing you to stick around in a thread for a topic you don't care about.
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>>547864909
GLM on NAI doesn't have slop.
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>>547865352
This is a lie. NAI's GLM isn't tuned yet. Of course, you know that. You just thought it'd be funny to bring it up, unprompted. Because this is your shill mask.
Get a life and quit inserting yourself into conversations, dude. Nobody thinks this is funny.
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>We should track it. Kinda like a Pokédex, but for you cock!
I do not like the implications here.
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>>547866445
Gotta catch em all...?
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>>547873635
This girl has a problem with wanting me to fuck every woman who so much as glances in my general direction.
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Holy fuck, GLM actually understands how side-ties work?!
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>>547878720
Side-ties?
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>>547880591
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/side-tie_panties
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Is NAI obsolete now that we have Flux 2?
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>>547881623
Check inside your anus.
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>>547881025
Ok, so it was what I thought it was
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>>547856738
GLM 4.6. Not to sound like an NAI shill, but I've found after messing with Kimi K2 and other models that GLM is still the best one provided at a reasonable price. I usually use about $10/mo of it.
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>>547883817
How do you compare it with Deepseek 3.1, Qwen, and Mistral?
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>>547885906
nta but I prefer it over all of those, genuinely feels much smarter than deepseek at times. only issue is that it is super sensitive to instructions and can swing between total slop and discount claude.
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>>547886168
Well it's not since that its about 8 times cheaper per output than Claude.
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>>547886906
>Well it's not since
Well it's nice that*

woops, must be getting tired.
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>>547856738
So you see, all the safety shit they drilled into its head is associated with the instruct format. So if you don't use instruct, you most likely won't have any issues with safetyslop.
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So, is Deepseek 3.2 a big downgrade compared to 3.1? It seems to be significantly cheaper.
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>>547896449
It's about the same. 3.2 uses their own experimental attention mechanism which is faster and supposedly delivers the same result.
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>>547875190
More like gotta catch all the stds
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Some more progress. I think I'm almost done.
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Type Narrator: (voice-over) and post results.
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>>547907710
>kayra
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>>547292675
- fix: highlight slops at word boundary
- fix: remove connecting indicator on the modeline even on error
- feat: new customize variable, `novelai-kill-buffer-names`
- feat: show message when the cursor isn't at the end of buffer.
- commit ID: bc6fb55f7c440807e971c42c224b22e04757260a
https://files.catbox.moe/44pygn.el
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>>547881623
No
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>do the 4chan thread about the story thing
>one anon hopes it doesn't get deleted
>except he hopes it doesn't get "shoah'd"
Alright, damn. That was a 16% token too, with the top one being 18% "deleted".
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anyone have good suffering porn prompts? I want to feel something, even if it's pure misery
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>>547848851
>(The only people who are wrong are privacy tards afraid someone's going to comb over their cooms and forward them to a government agency or their employer.
Considering the shit I coom to would get me arrested in my country, yeah it's a concern.
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>>547936985
And it's also not about someone combing over it (even though that is possible and they could use AI for it), it's more like they're going to fuck up and leak data like has happened countless times in the AI field alone.
And if you tend to use the same system prompts across models the risk increases further.
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>>547940118
Yeah, I'd rather just not take the risk either
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Prompts for this feel?
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>>547950162
Forgot about this, comedy classic.
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I'm always surprised by how little models know about the real world.
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>>547945176
I've pitched some prompts to Claude and Gemini through openrouter because at least it's not tied to a Google/Claude account that way.
I'm still trusting openrouter greatly and their claims that they don't log, but I'm doing that regardless of what model I use unless I go local
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>>547950162
>she's my girlfriend leave her alone you pedo

>go fuck a whore
>I'm trying
kek
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>>547952429
It's ok cause I don't know much about the real world either
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Is NAI obsolete now that we have Z Image?
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What kinds of things do you like to write to describe someone as attractive? What do you like to focus on? What words do you like to use?
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>>547960193
big boobies
huge knockers
large badonkers
gigantic milkers
titanic tatas
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>>547960494
What are people's favorite terms for breasts?

For me, it's calling them "girls"
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>>547961048
DISGUSTING
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>>547961841
I'm not sure that's a term for breasts
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>>547961048
I'm partial to bosoms, myself
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>>547881623
Have you even looked at the requirements needed to run it?
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Flux doesn't matter but when the Z-Image base model is out, we're going to get some crazy good finetunes that most people can run.
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>>547967720
What's the requirements like on the VRAM front?
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>>547967926
Unless you "optimize" it to absurdity, it requires 90GB of VRAM. Some people have "supposedly" gotten it to run at 24GB. Either way, it cannot run on my machine.
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>>547967926
I'm at 19.6gb with it. After people are done doing their usual thing, I'm sure it's going to be like half that.
>>547968254
Anon...
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>>547968413
Fuck off with your condescending tone. Flux 2 has high VRAM requirements.
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>>547968413
Hm, I guess we'll see. I'm not feeling all too confident in 8 GB land, but maybe autism can come to the rescue.
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>>547968545
Bro, you gotta learn how to read.
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>>547968686
I will never be your bro.
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>>547968761
You can be my ho.
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>>547964590
That is a comfy term
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>>547970995
I feel like if you lay down on a pair of breasts, you're legally required to refer to them as bosoms. Other situations are also fine, but that specifically is a bosom situation.
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Any NAI news from the server?
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I started a new mind control story today. The classic: Nerdy college boy gets a magic ring. I just want to get to the sex already, but I feel compelled to establish his character and that of his female roommmates first, have him slowly discover the powers, improve the prose, etc.

It took me like an hour to get to the point where he looks at his roomie while she does the dishes, casually thinks "shake that ass more!", and she indeed does it.
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While having some amount of formatting (italics, codeblocks, etc.) visible to the model is nice, I wish it was a bit better. Perhaps a way to more quickly swap between formatted and not to see and work with the formatting characters a bit better. That, and things tend to be a bit sticky and not terminate right. If I go back and edit a word later that's next to something, say, in italics, even if it should be outside of that section, it'll still be in italics. Might be a bigger issue for inline codeblocks, though, since those can't be canceled with a key combination in the same way and are really only made with backticks and thus are harder to interact with (formatting-wise) after they exist.
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Big news.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/11/launching-the-genesis-mission/
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>>547974226
I know that feeling, there's just so much shit you can do with mind control you can easily get sidetracked
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>>547971954
Don’t think so but I only use Discord to check if Kurumuz/any other team members have said anything so it’s not like I’m an active user. Other people who actually use it might know more. I’m just desperately waiting for style transfer now.
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>>547985532
Same, I been waiting the whole month for any updates
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>>547971173
I'll admit I often end sex scenes with this, and agree it's a great term for the occasion. Though do you use bosom to refer to a woman's whole chest, i.e. both breasts, or do you use it for a singular breast? According to Merriam-Webster apparently either way is used, but in my mind bosom refers to the whole chest, and "bosoms" would refer to multiple women's breasts
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>>547960193
>What kinds of things do you like to write to describe someone as attractive?
It depends on what body type I'm writing about specifically (slim vs curvy for example). But I think the number one phrase I use to make hot girls is "bubble butt". I like that kind of ass, and I like the word for it.

>>547961048
I recently learned that there's an adjective "bosomy".
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>>547960193
How their personality displays itself in their actions and how they dress, their physique, the way their skin feels (I might put too much effort into this, alongside their general hygiene), how they smell, among other things.
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None of you will ever know the touch of a woman, freaks.
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>>547989248
Too modern for my stories.
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>>547991389
Are you talking about the word or the beauty ideal it refers to?

A synonym for bubble butt that sounds more historical is "apple butt" or "apple bottom". I'm just esl, but from what I've heard these terms are only rarely used in english. In german "Apfelpo" is a widely used phrase though.

For an actual historical metaphor: I once read a bit of the ancient persian Shahname. In it sexy women are repeatedly described as having a body shaped like a cypress tree: Tall and slim, but rounded at the bottom.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/YouGarden/Web/500x500/510471.jpg
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>>547993375
And let's not forget Huemac's taste in women
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>>547991346
why would i need that when i have deepseek describing a succubus getting a train ran on her by a boys orphanage
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>>547993375
I feel in english "apple bottom" is usually associated with apple bottom jeans, as referenced in Flo Rida's song Low.
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>>547994983
Why were mesoamericans so zased while north Americans were boring hippies?
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>>547996854
Kind of helps that they had written records
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>>547994983
official nahua opinion on whether fucking a genderbent dude is gay or not: not gay, literally your divine right as leader
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>>547993375
The word itself. I typically try to keep my erotic prose period appropriate.
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>>547997042
Their greatest achievement was making dirt mounds
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>>548001127
If you know nothing of history, sure.
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>>548001327
Most reasonable and coherent Mesoamerican descendant
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>>548001494
I think that was our resident "I'm totally an American" Russkie.
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>>548001681
yeah
that post did not read like our (probably former) mesoamerican anon at all
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>>548000802
based
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It's over.
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>>548002782
There was a mesoamerican anon here or is it the one from /his/? Don’t remember seeing any mesoamerican prompts
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>>548024184
He would post a lot of isekai stuff
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>>548032228
>SMALLMIND
Shit taste, desu.
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>>548032464
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
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>>548032228
NAI has their goose images for download.
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>>548032942
You can customize it. This is the default settings.
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>>547292675
Has Sudowrite's November update been discussed? They removed most unfiltered models except from their own called Muse, which started as expensive but pretty good and has turned into both expensive and shit.
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>>548039525
When you say unfiltered do you mean women respect, cute and funny, AND it says the n word?
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>>548039525
wut?
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So all it took was putting [ Style: whatever ] in AN
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>>548039525
Amit makes Mormon look like a paragon of fair business practices. I assume that anyone still using Sudo in 2025 will continue eating shit, though.

Honestly NAI wouldn't do bad trying to market themselves to Sudo's dissatisfied customers. I distinctly remember Amit himself shilling his service in a r*ddit thread complaining about NAI's (back then genuinely) subpar textgen offering.
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>>548044161
Yeah, looking at how NAI treats A/N now it makes sense to shove stuff like style instructions and such in there.
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Sudowrite is going to kill NAI with Z Image, isn't it?
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>>548055170
I already killed Novular AI with my freaking mind. They are dead. Please celebrate.
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>>548040291
I mean rape. Goliath and some other models had no issue with it.
>>548044314
I haven't followed the changes in NovelAI. A couple years back, they were more expensive and censored than Sudowrite, at least from what I remember. I'll probably give them another try.
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Pondering a good default model for the hypebot script. From what I could gather, I should go for older models since since they would be less sloppy and positive (hopefully), and this task doesn't require too much intelligence, but there are hardly any providers still offering old models on OR.
There are four candidates:
- MythoMax L2 13B: This is indeed old, but I vaguely remember using it on chub and it was quite sloppy.
- WizardLM 2 8x22B/Noromaid 20B/Goliath 20B/ReMM SLERP 13B: I have no experience with this model at all. No logs found online.
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>>548061878
When has NAI ever been censored on textgen? Pre-2023 their main drawback was that pretty much no one outside of OpenAI had good models, which gave Sudo an edge due to its exclusive access to Davinci. 2023 and onward NAI's main issue was that they'd train a decent-ish-to-good model, then not update it for over a year despite it quickly becoming outdated. But in both cases, you could write the most depraved content with it.

And Sudo was always more expensive too. Back when they had Davinci, they'd sell it for $129 and STILL give you a limited quota of words.

But if you're interested in trying it out, now's likely the best time. GLM 4.6 is a genuinely good model, and we haven't had major open-source releases so far that clearly outdo it in creative writing. That'll probably change in the next two months, at which point NAI may fall back again if they end up being unable to host it due to size.
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>>548063786
Goliath 120B*
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>>548064053
>NAI may fall back again if they end up being unable to host it due to size.
I've been paypigging for 3 years and they still can't afford big beaks? Damn.
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>>548039525
Seeing the last update, it looks like they're trying to completely move away from adult text generation for whatever reason and focus in tools and other bullshit directed to non-tech-savvy users.
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>>548064564
They can afford a sparse 355B MoE.
They can't afford Kimi K2's 1 trillion or Deepseek's V3. The issue is their memory requirements. So their ability to further upgrade to better models is for now constrained by total parameter number unless they start quantizing. If the next gen open source models all push into upper triple billions and trillions of parameters, they'll have difficulty keeping up.
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I was putting off using Gemini 3 because /aicg/ said it was bad, but its actually quite good after all
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Jesus fucking christ, why do you need a fucking credit card for all those fucking AI providers!? Official deepseek is the only one that lets me pay with paypal, so I guess all my euros have to go to china still. I just wanted to try some glm ...
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How do you pronounce the plural possessive form of mass? As in "the masses' consensus"
I wanna say like /mæsJzJz/, but that sounds kind weird with the two Jz's
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>>548069001
Damn, why can't 4chan render IPA? It's supposed to be like this
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>>547974226
I've been running a hypnosis scenario for months. It allows for a ton of flexibility in story direction.
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>>548068107
Openrouter supports crypto too
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>NovelAI has confirmed a new data breach involving Mixpanel, a third-party analytics provider previously used to monitor activity on novelai.net
Good thing NovelAI uses multiple third party analytics.
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>>548072163
wat
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No (you)s.
https://windowsreport.com/openai-api-users-names-emails-more-exposed-in-massive-mixpanel-data-breach/
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>>548072473
Nothing on Discord, looking it up, it was OpenAI that was affected.
Make sure to rub this in the Russian faggot's face next time he shills them.
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NovelAI uses third party analytics. The breaches don't get reported because the service is unpopular.
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>>548069395
Honestly, for speaking, I'd probably rephrase it so I wouldn't even have to try to pronounce that lmao
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>>548069001
Just how it's written: "the masses". I wouldn't try to add another "s" to it that isn't there in the written form.
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>>548064564
Sudo has never had an edge, given how much they charge, dude.
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>>548078561
I guess you could say it still has a sudoedge
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>>548075121
They're so unpopular, you devote your every waking hour to shitting on them. Which makes you the most retarded renter in the world, given how you single-handedly keep them afloat.
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What did >548078865 mean by this?
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>>548079247
If you weren't retarded, you'd see it was a reply meant for another and that it was a simple misclick.
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>>548080593
Being so angry you rage respond to the wrong post is not healthy, angryanon.
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Back to hallucinating that every response is made by the same person. Am I also a member of OccultSage's nonexistent botnet? You bet I must be! Nobody can dispute the comments I make against NovelAI, even when they're clearly delusional!
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>open up to a character
>critical failure
>AIR deems it "uncharismatic emotional oversharing"
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Is there a way to get SillyTavern's banned token list to work with GLM 4.6? I'm really tired of unadulterated stark contrast that is not Lyra but Ozone.
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>>548069558
I've decided to really drag out how how my protagonist discovers the ring's magical powers, but at the same time giving the audience clues as to how the rules work. Not that anyone but me will ever read this ofc.

I think scene related will finally make the light bulbs go on for him. He's sitting in a bus and watches two girls standing a bit away, and thinks it would be cool to see the plain one grope the slut (kek at DS for following those names btw.).
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>>548078561
Wrong post?
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>>548078865
stupid
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When was this ever competitive?
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>>548092434
It made sense years ago when your only options where NAI running tiny models, the twitching corpse of AI Dungeon, a hack local solution, or kobold.

Kind of surprising they haven’t died out honestly since they aren’t offering a good option price, model, or usability wise.
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>>548093713
Trick question. It never made sense. Suno has never been a good option. If you want to pay for tokens and not get ripped off, OpenRouter is your friend. That's an actual service.
Suno was always way too expensive for the limited amount of tokens it offered.
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>>548093931
I mean sudo launched in 2023 and coomegedon was late 2020 with sudo in mid 2021. So they had around two years of being a viable choice
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Suno (musicgen) and Sudo (textgen) refer to two different AI services. It's obvious which one is being talked about but clarity is nevertheless important.
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Happy ThanksGiving™© inhabitants of the /aids/ thread.
Also I haven't been here a while, this new CAPTCHA is kinda nuts.
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>>548105493
I still have the regular captcha.
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I'm in danger.
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>>548109325
sounds like a predicament
I'm more partial to wasp girls myself
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>>548105493
You still got those craiyon pics?
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>instruct AI to only include white women in my story (not racist, just only find them attractive, and tired of editing out other women)
>narration now has a permanent racist undertone for the rest of the story
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>>548116093
post some, i want to see
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>>548116574
Sorry I lied. NovelAI isnt smart enough to follow directions, all I got was ozone and chills down my spine.
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>>548088461
On mine, the hypno triggers are in the lorebook, but bc the npc is prone to hypnosis, she's generally in a suggestable state even without them. It works for this NPCs personality.
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>>548088461
Sorry, I >>548118414 (me) lied. NovelAI isnt smart enough to depict hypnotism.
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>>547961048
Sorry, I lied. These are generations of men.
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>>548119527
Who mentioned NovelAI?
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>>547936985
Sorry, I lied. I know that nothing I do online would put me at risk of an arrest, I just wanted to shill NovelAI.
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>>547581203
Turk lied. They aren't even hosting GLM 4.6, it's actually Llama 4.
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>>547536124
Sorry, I lied. Rayman looks like a colossal shit, none of the characters are even sexy, what kind of child wanks their meat to this? Not me.
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>>548117565
>>548119527
>>548120382
>>548120669
Kill yourself Russian retard. Probably had a massive panic attack and that's why you were gone for nearly 4 days.
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>>548112787
Oh yeah, most of which I managed to compile into a collage (which I can confirm has crashed at least two people's browsers when loaded (you have been warned)):
> https://files.catbox.moe/ktsnfi.jpg
Those were the good old days, back when I was eagerly awaiting Boris's next model iteration so that the vaguely humanoid paint-smears that Craiyon churned out en masse looked 10% more coherent. Though, I'm pretty sure the chronic inhalation of old Craiyon's digital paint fumes have permanently entrenched the "faceless" and "by wlop" tags into the deepest parts of my brain, even though I never use either of them these days.
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>>548129121
Time flies
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>>548143978
young master... your qi is unstable due to the build-up of yin energy....
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Anyone else ever look back on the stuff they watched back when they were kids and realize the dissonance in values? I like to play with this in my stories. Discredited tropes, deliberate values dissonance, research into the norms of society at different times and places. It's all so fascinating.
I have little doubt that despite my intent, when I one day publish my work, people will call to cancel me, and thereby miss the point in my depictions altogether.
Life is wonderful, in all of its contradictions and hypocrisy.
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>>548147461
Yes. Cartoon villian is a well known trope.
But even stuff like Bob the Builder. Think about what that looks like in reality.
> Bob is schizophrenic and his machines talk to him
Or
> Bob is cursed with possessed, independent but infantile working equipment that he's forced to use and will never leave.
Most shows have this going on. Kids shows are just more dramatic.
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>>548150850
= meant more along these examples:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DiscreditedTrope
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ValuesDissonance

Stuff like Apu not being shocking, old cartoons having a zit episode, how Disney films were casually racist, or how Johnny Bravo would not have been released in this day and age, at least not with it marketed to kids, the violence of the OG Powerpuff Girls in comparison to its reboot, SpongeBob strapping himself to a suicide bomb as a gag in that one episode, among other things that just would not fly today.

Alongside tropes that just don't get used anymore because society advanced beyond their practicality and feasibility, like the pizza in thirty minutes, or it's free deal, large ridiculous braces, or ones which just ceased to be taken seriously, like the Mayan Doom conspiracy that, to nobody's surprise, didn't result in doom. Makes it hard to take media that plays it straight, feel me? But that's just how society was.
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YOUR THEME MONTH PROMPTS, WHERE ARE THEY?
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>>548157421
I forgot we we're having a theme month honestly
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>>548157421
>>548152072
stop reading my stories my tinfoil won't be updated
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Anyone using AI Roguelite? What are some reasonably priced text models on Openrouter that work well with it?
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>>548165582
Don't even bother wasting your goybucks on that shit.
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>>548165582
I used the sapphire sub the dev offers, which is apparently a combination of Gemini’s current model with a backup NSFW model when an output would otherwise be denied. I don’t know nothing about Openrouter.
But yeah it’s fun. I would recommend turning on “player confirmation” for most events though because every once in a while some weird stuff happens that wouldn’t make sense, like moving to a new location, or losing an item because the AI thinks the description implies it breaks when it doesn’t, etc. It’s not too bad about it these days though.
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Which do you prefer: small nipples, or large nipples?
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>>548185676
Proportionate nipples.
So: small on small breasts, large on large breasts.
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>>548185676
I don't mind either, really, more important are small areolae. I hate when those are big.
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>>548185676
food nipples
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New directors tools tonight please…
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Ok, I finally gave in and gave Z.AI my credit card info for GLM-4.6, because I heard it was supposed to be good.

I don't like it at all. It writes a super flowery, try-hard prose, even when I explicitly tell it to write smut and porn. It also talks a lot for my character. This sucks compared to DS.
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>>548194278
Try not using instruct template/chat completion mode.
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>>548194603
You mean I should use text completion? I tried to set that up, but that only gives me a "token expired or incorrect" error.
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>>548195390
Your frontend is mikupad, I assume? Try inspecting the network request in DevTools.
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>>548195537
I use Silly Tavern.
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>>548185676
big or small, they gotta be pierced for me to be into it
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>>548194278
What does your sysprompt/sampling settings look like? GLM is a bit temperamental. I get the best results with 1.2 temp, 0.98 top-p, 0.02 min-p, and short (2-3 sentence) instructions.
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Favorite historical waifu? For me, it's Saint Olga of Kiev. A lot of my scenarios have a fantasy rip-off of her show up eventually, genociding her neighbors through elaborate trickery
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>>548194603
Can you still use system prompts with it? Never tried
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>>548188602
Don't like them pepperonis?
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>>548200569
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khutulun
Steppe warrior women do it for me
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>>548201774
That's funny, anon.
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>>548204294
That's a common slang term for them
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>>548195610
I have no idea about ST.
>>548201331
If you want. I don't, though.
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>>548202937
>tfw you will never ride across the great steppe with your Scythian horse archer waifu, pillaging and looting the beta agricultural civilizations
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>>548206595
Feels bad, man
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>>548206595
War is bad, taking from others is wrong, killing those with families just trying to survive in the world like you and your family is wrong
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>>548218408
>t. agrarian tiller (yes we use the hard 'r' here)
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>>547292675
Is everyone ready for Culture Clash/Shock & Alternate History Month? Here’s the anchor∼!
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>>548195537
Is devtools referencing different software or something within mikupad? I've not learned of a good way to inspect the prompt in mikupad like in ST terminal.
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>>548226872
Whatever you see in the editing area is sent as is to the API, except for when you use fill in the middle.
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>>548220524
>being a parasitic leech screeching retard instead of creating your own sustenance and living off the land you and your ancestors painstakingly helped cultivate is le based actually
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>when you add 4chan, wattpad, ao3, and fanfiction.net as tags
>at the same time
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>>548231425
>then, the screaming started
Am I the only one that gets pissed off when the AI writes one of those quippy little lines to start a scene?
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>>548231425
don't let them die, anon
do something
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Just got back from a friendsgiving type thing, and man it's weird to hear people talk about real life relationship drama while I sit there thinking about all the furry smut I wanna generate.
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>>548234281
Take heart, because it could be much worse
You could be one of those people who are "dating" chatgpt
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>>548239776
It's kind of funny how some normies are going off the deep end of waifufaggotry from AI. It's like when the Europeans introduced hard liquor to the Native Americans - they haven't built a proper tolerance to it
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>>548244908
That's misleading data, actually. Statistically speaking, it's only the lower class who tend to have drinking problems, as would be expected, given people who feel like they don't have prospects are easily susceptible to such things. Think how prevalent painkiller addiction is among White Americans... It tends to be the poor people.
Those on the reserve, with some outliers, tend to have higher abstinent rates than those off the reserve, though most off the reserve aren't as likely to binge-drink. When people are cloistered and eke out an existence in poverty because of a lack of opportunity and resources, what do you think tends to happen?
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>>548251304
I think he was talking more historically
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>Z.AI 4.6 caching pricing on OR
this stuff is crazy. Cache hits mean that an input size of one hundred thousand tokens is still less than 1 penny per call. I have stopped ever removing things from context, I just have a system now with:
>most 100 recent AI exchanges
>each 10 exchanges over 100 get summarized into 1 medium-term memory event
>each 5 medium-term memory get summarized into 1 long-term memory event
and my story just goes on forever without losing almost any essential story points no matter how long ago something happened.
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I'm actually having fun doing dumb shit with Gemini
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>>548200139
>What does your sysprompt/sampling settings look like? GLM is a bit temperamental. I get the best results with 1.2 temp, 0.98 top-p, 0.02 min-p, and short (2-3 sentence) instructions.
I have temp at 1.0, which I think is the official recommendation. As for my system prompt (inserted as an author's note in ST) I'm still experimenting. I've cut it down mostly to the generic "You are a creative writing assistant ...". GLM seems to react differently to further prompts than Dipsy (DS) or other models I've tried before. I originally had "... who writes high-quality prose" in there too, but I now belive that was what caused the overly flowery language. I haven't made it to a sex scene yet, so we'll have to see how that goes.
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Yes, the weekend is here at last! Is the finetune ready? It's been two months.
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>>548262960
two more weekends
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>>548258137
This is the way.
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>>548263049
I just realized someone asked the same exact question as me a few posts above.
At this point I'd like Anlatan to just release their dataset and let the community do the fine-tune by renting GPUs. It will be faster.
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>>548258137
Do you guys go fully uncensored on OR or do you hold yourself back?
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>>548263287
I limit to Zero Data Retention ends only and just hope they really are ZDR.
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>>548263287
You're asking if you should write child porn. You shouldn't. Keep that shit in the privacy of your GPU, or better yet in your skull.
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>>548263287
Compromising things go directly to chinese servers, with no westerners in the middle.
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It's fun to have the AI make foreigners use their own language a bit when they talk and think. I now know that 大屁股 will give me thicc chinese girls on google.
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>>548264023
Booba? Really? Are you dumb?
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>>548264023
Huh, 屁 means fart in Japanese. The Kanjis would be something like big fart crotch, says my very limited knowledge of the language.
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>>548264230
>oooooooh how could you do that to your user AI
>I ask you for busty Chinese women and you give me the old Brappa Jap
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>>548264468
I mean, it could be different in Chinese. Isn't the ideal women to them basically a stick? Would make sense that big butt is an insult. Or the characters just mean something else in Chinese, which is more likely.
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>>548264181
Apparently it's real: wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%B3%A2%E9%9C%B8
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promptCHADS... I require assistance
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>>548265972
It's really fucking sloppy, I honestly don't know what to do at this point. I hardly ever do prompting.
The system prompt right now:
You are a meta-commentary generator. In the user message, you will be given an extract of a creative text. Your job is to generate a JSON object with two fields: "tone" and "comment". The "tone" field must contain the tone of the meta-commentary in a single word, i.e cynical, humorous, concerned, sarcastic, etc. The "comment" field must contain a single sentence of meta-commentary with the aforementioned tone about the latest details/events in the story directed at the user, who is the author of the story.
Constraints:
- Use casual languagen
- Profanity is allowed
- Be creative and witty
- The story may be cut off, so make do with the available context
- Any tone of voice, negative or positive, is allowed
- Avoid cliched responses and positivity bias
Examples:
{"tone": "sarcastic", "comment": "Wow! This must be really poor on your dick!"}
{"tone": "lecturing", "comment": "You should obey your father's commands, even if they seem a little unfair."}
{"tone": "criticizing", "comment": "But you shouldn't need space in a relationship."}
{"tone": "encouraging", "comment": "Now that your life has been spared, let's make sure you really live to tell the tale!"}
{"tone": "cautionary", "comment": "Maybe you should start keeping track of where your next meal is coming from..."}
Examples courtesy of anons from this general.
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>>548265972
>>548267101
Just use NAI.
It's cheaper than a cup of coffe a day.
It works, works well, and works well for all your devices.
It's the only provider that won't sell your data.
>>548263427
You can only take their words for that. They can log all your data and you won't know. Don't trust them.
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>introduce a mother and daughter among a group of characters
>NAI immediately hints at their "forbidden dynamics"
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>>548224984
Well, here's mine: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7791
>I knew Rome would be different to my little village, but I didn't quite expect it to be that different. Of course, my first experience of Rome was a bit more unusual than what the average visitor might have. It's not everybody that wanders around the city and ends up stumbling into becoming the Consul of the Roman Republic on account of being cute, after all...
Honestly struggled a bit coming up with something to fit the alternative history part of it all, so this might feel a bit painfully cliche, but I still like what came out in the end.
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>>548267101
Honestly, you might be better off trying to hone in on one personality rather than letting it do multiple. I don't really know how to approach it either—my limited experience in instruct prompting revolves around "throw more examples at it until it spits out what you want"—but generally what I'd try for is to focus on what makes Hypebot special, that is, its capacity for complete irreverence and relentless positivity. Ideally, the comment should be simple-minded in its observations, just the most inane, basic drivel. Hypebot, true to its origin as a modified Sigurd, is stupid, but it's trying.
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>>548268005
YWNBWF
YWABR
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>>548263665
Glad im not the only one who's decided same.
>>548228056
There's a bunch of other info that gets sent out. Parameters and settings, all which has its own format. The server version of MP should at least be able to output a log file of the outbound payload and inbound response.
I'll have to look at it closer next week. This should be a easy one to get added if its not already there.
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>>548268709
If you have lewd main prompts you're getting what you asked for.
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>Make story about cock worship
>15000 words later
>Still haven't even started an nsfw scene
Why does this always happen???
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>>548234281
This reminds me of last christmas. I visited my parents to spend the holiays with them. I also fell into severe gooning addiction at the time, so I spent many hours in my old bedroom and fapped to ai. Really felt like a teenager again.

>>548272919
Same. My current "e"rp is basically me writing a novel all by myself about my protagonist's inner struggles. The AI is sometimes allowed to chime in and speak for the NPCs.
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>>548263265
>expecting a company to abandon their money maker
You'll be waiting for the heat death of the universe, bro.
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>The landmine suddenly whips out the Zalgo text and tells me she''ll peel my skin off and wear it so we'll never be separated again if I dare to give her a reason to believe that I'm thinking about leaving her
One day, a therapist will psychoanalyze my desires and help me understand why I desire women like this.
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>>548276721
Why are you fucking a landmine?
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>>548272662
I am 100% getting what I asked for I'm just surprised at how quickly the robot knows what that is before I even hint at it
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>>548278116
Landmine (Jirai Kei) girls are real anon, and they will ruin your life if you let them.
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>>548280506
using the english term is cringe
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>>547629901
I use both Claude and ST to help me write the narrative, but the model itself is Sonnet 4.5.
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I'm surprised there weren't any Thanksgiving prompts, theme aside.

>>548269312
>All roads lead to Rome
I might insert an 'as' in 'on, people'.
Unless you're doing it this way for flow and effect, an 'and' should probably go in 'other, looking'.
I might insert an 'and' in 'job, more'.
I think in this situation that you'd use the singular 'bedchamber', since there's only the one bedroom. Which would then mean that in 'which have', that should be 'has'.
In Aulus's Lorebook, 'defacto' should be 'de facto'. It's almost odd to have the Latin term there given Rainulf's spotty grasp on the language and when the story is set.
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more bōbà booba
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>Culture Clash
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Snake ENF
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How can I force a chatbot to give me large responses in one go? ChatGPT gives me the biggest ones rn and gemini is being gay. I give him a document and I have to go like, okay let's go with Chapter 1 first, then Chapter 2, etc.

...But I want a single prompt that gives me a detailed answer for all chapters in one go. Maybe it's the 64K token limit in AIStudio?
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>>548313309
Making them reason usually works. But I would advice against oneshotting stories.
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>>548314819
hmm, and you think sillytavern is the best tool for the job or should I use something like mikupad (or a more 'modern' alternative)?
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>>548315564
I'd say ST isn't too different from AI Studio in terms of core functions. mikupad, though, is made to write a story/fanfic/novel proper, with easy editing.
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>>548313309
Are you trying to sell shit on amazon or something?
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>>547292675
I've managed to make a writing decision so ass the AI explicitly vetoed my edit.
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>>548333814
Which service and what was the context?
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>“You belong to me. Your thoughts, your dick—they’re mine. You don’t get to have private boners! You don’t get to have private anything!”
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>>548334480
>Which service
Perchance
> what was the context?
I gave an abomination made from the fusion of 12 women a 72 pack because I thought it'd be funny
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Time to learn Polish, I guess
https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-surprising-language-beats-English-and-Chinese-in-LLM-tests-based-on-new-academic-study.1168913.0.html
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When you write a sex scene with a self-insert type character, do you usually make them dominant or submissive?
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>>548334952
You can’t just name your service "perchance"
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>>548334952
I had once told Claude to make a funny what if interaction between my characters and got a refusal because "It would be jarringly out of place in the serious, atmospheric fantasy setting you've created"
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>>548338524
My self-insert is a dense, but eager to please, kinda lover.
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Is there an aids or aids related discord? I've been working on a custom engine and wanted some feedback.
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>>theme friday
>no prompt? Fuck, let's make it theme month!
>>theme month
>no prompt? Fuck, let's allow multiple themes!
>>themes month
You can predict the outcome.
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>>548342026
I mean multiple themes in the case of a draw has been a thing for a while now. That's not new.
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>>548342026
If you don't like being here, you can always just leave, instead of wasting your valuable time shitposting.
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>>548341926
There is an /aids/ cord, though invites are disabled, with it being little more than a graveyard.
Honestly, I've been debating making a new one myself. I like to discuss things with people, and feel like the current one doesn't really serve that purpose all that well.
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>have the AI play a Romance of the Three Kingdoms turn-based strategy game with me
>AI roleplays as my close council suggesting certain actions for the upcoming month
>highlights: negotiated a non-aggression pact with Cao Cao, fostered distrust between Cao Cao and Lu Bu, arranged agricultural cooperation initiative with Yuan Shao and Sun Ce, along with trade route agreements.
>get bored eventually and tell the AI I'm going to spend a month going to the brothel every day
>AI describes the events at the brothel, then goes straight back to strategy mode
>AI councilor: "While you've enjoyed a period of relaxation, it is time to focus on strategic alliances. We must keep Cao Cao and Lu Bu in check!"
>nah, I'm going on another month-long brothel binge, this time inviting Lu Bu and Cao Cao to come join the party
>next month rolls around
>first time the AI doesn't include councilor dialogue at the introduction of a new turn
Well-timed AI hiccup, or did the AI just accurately simulate my councilors losing their patience with their lord's stroke of irresponsibility?
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>fantasize about being marilith due to liking snek girls and having some tranny ideation
>die and get sent to hell
>get remade as marilith princess of hell
>oversee the torture of dretches
>learn that hell is a bureaucratic nightmare and my position is like a managerial job at a shitty company
>get beaten and raped by stronger demons if performance isn't up to arbitrary everchanging standards
>so much for the title of "princess of hell"
>torture and brutalize dretches for so long even the most creative tortures become mundane
>driven to continue tormenting others only to take out frustration of it all and to avoid being brutalized myself
>hell lives up to its reputation allowing me to have my fantasy, but turning it into horror
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>>548345785
If you have the AI set up to play a strategic council and then keep going "off script", it'll eventually jsut start going along with this new branch you created because its using the story so far for context, and the latest input doesn't mesh well with what you were doing before. It's going to be more pronounced if you have it spend time describing what goes on at the brotherl, rather than moiving past it with a passing line.

Coomer that I am, I've started making some decent stories before, only to descend them into coomerism. The AI is ok with some of that and can get a story going again after a sexy scene. But if the coomerism becomes excessive, then eventually the AI decides that's what I want and it can take a little coaxing to get it back on track.
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>>548344993
I think at this point it might be needed, I'd be down.
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>>548339728
Based autist Claude refusing to deviate from the established canon
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>>548353030
More like cringe, acting like the author, who is his boss, can't have fun with their own story. It's like a wannabe fan shouting at the writer that he knows what canon is better than they do.
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>>548353364
I found it funny when it happened, like he was too in the zone. He went ahead and complied when I said it was for fun and non-canon
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>>548348681
I do not know if I am capable enough to make and maintain a server. I can give it a go, I guess. Not at the moment, as I am busy doing stuff with friends, but sure. I do think it would be more beneficial if someone else did it.
We would require a certain amount of vetting, I think.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6dxYka2tRk

Shh, the thread's sleeping...

WE- nah, nah, nah, nah. We

WE don't like it when the AI gens start fading
When the AI gens fading then we can't get down (Okay)

We don't like it when the AI people act crooked
When the AI people crooked then we can't get down (Okay)

We don't like it when the AI vectors break prompts
When the vectors break prompts then we can't get down (Okay)

We don't like it when the AI slop starts spreading
When the AI slop spreading then we can't get down (Okay)

Zook up in it, crook with a cord
With a cord with a two tonne gimmick
Deep seek evil nine millimetre gimme
Damn needle point in this text gen family
[...]

And the beakiest of models guaranteed to gen kino
And the beakiest of models guaranteed to gen kino
And the beakiest of models guaranteed to gen kino
And the beakiest of models guaranteed to gen kino
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>>548342026
You must be making these charts intentionally at this point. Do you have some kind of National humiliation thing now or something?
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>>548366369
What?
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>>548363024
Beautiful
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>[{{user}} is a 28-year-old Romanian cat girl.]
Can I just edit that anyway or is there a specific format to follow?
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Can you get NAI to reference another story you're writing?
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>"It never is" She said, her gaze softening for a fraction of a second, a fleeting glimpse of the exhaustion that was hidden beneath the defiance "What do you want?" She finally asked, her shoulders slumping, a silent admission of defeat, a silent surrender to the reality of her situation, to the reality of having to make a living, to the reality of having to deal with people like him, a reality that she clearly hated.
>"I need an incubator with neutral solution, a bioscaffolding printer, a myofiber manipulator of at least five micrometers of precision and a device called a biosignal transducer" He said, the words a rapid, fluent cascade of technical jargon, a language that he had learned in the sterile, humming halls of Workshop 627, a language that was a key to a world that she understood, a world that was her heritage, a world that was her curse.
>Nadia's reaction was immediate, a flicker of surprise in her eyes, a flicker of curiosity, a flicker of something that he couldn't quite name. She looked at him, really looked at him, for the first time, her gaze no longer one of dismissal, but of assessment.
For fucks sake GLM 4.6, stop repeating the same words all the fucking time, I am getting annoyed of your bullshit that I have to correct all the fucking time.
>He went down the corridor. His eyes darting in fear, the fear of someone whose life had been bet by his haters, fear primal and overwhelming.
It's fucking retarded writing, which is my job, not yours GLM 4.6.
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>>548390310
Holy slop, kek
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>>548390310
Use Sage's prompt, newfag.
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>>548392667
He should use the thread's homebrewed one instead. It's better, and isn't relentlessly shilled by you.
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>>548390310
>her gaze no longer one of dismissal, but of assessment
I've noticed a lot of AIs like to use this device of, "not A, but B" as a form of emphasis. Is it really that common in human writing that it should show up so much in AI training data?
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So, for those who want to test the scripting for NAI, there's no NDA for it.
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>>548392667
>>548393457
I don't really follow what you mean.
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>>548398323
Input in effects input out. The default system prompt may not be the most useful. Fiddle around with it, alongside learning how to lead by example.
This is the best we can offer until the fine-tune distorts the current token biases into new ones.

>>546858530
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The scripting update gonna be fire.
https://files.catbox.moe/idhj8q.mp4
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>>548298906
Thanks, as always.
>Unless you're doing it this way for flow and effect, an 'and' should probably go in 'other, looking'.
Yeah, that was intentional, it felt nice to me that way.
>I think in this situation that you'd use the singular 'bedchamber', since there's only the one bedroom.
Huh. I think I've always held the term "bedchambers" in my head as a thing that only existed in plural form even when talking about a singular instance, and I'm not sure why.
>In Aulus's Lorebook, 'defacto' should be 'de facto'. It's almost odd to have the Latin term there given Rainulf's spotty grasp on the language and when the story is set.
It does feel odd, so I rewrote it a bit with a "which basically means" instead.
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>>548376654
Thanks anon, I had the draft sitting in my notes folder since May
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>>548390310
Well, seems to have improved somewhat
>Said pointing inside the stall with his chin "I can come back later" He was trying to be polite, he was trying to be reasonable, he was trying to be a good customer, but he was also trying to buy some time, some time to think, some time to plan.
>Nadia's posture softened, just a fraction, a small, almost imperceptible shift in her shoulders, a small, almost imperceptible relaxation in her jaw. The raw fury that had been radiating from her seemed to dim, replaced by a deep, weary resignation that was somehow more heartbreaking. "There's never a good time," she said, her voice a low, flat monotone. "What do you want?"
>Welfram reached into his pocket, pulling out a small, worn data slate. He had prepared it before, listing the components he needed, the specifications, the tolerances. It was a list that was both a lifeline to Grace and a confession of his alliance with the entity in his head. He hesitated for a moment, the slate a cold, heavy weight in his hand. Showing this to her was a risk, a gamble. Her reaction was an unknown variable in the cold, hard equation of his plan.
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>Your resident bratty onahole, reporting for duty!
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How much will your life crumble onto dust when video generation starts hitting sites like NovelAI and they do it well?
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I should nerf my undead AIR protagonist some more
nobody could have seen coming that ignoring pain and biomechanical limits would be extremely useful in combat
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>>548422026
Not at all. Unlike you, clearly, I have an actual beyond this thread. You should try it sometime.
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>AIR dev is trying to implement time mechanics now
>new settings include a toggle for 12/24-hour display, "calendar events", and allowing the passage of time to update the descriptions of places/entities
poggers
I may be able to retire my makeshift Day-Night Cycle world status bar soon if the new system is decent
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I don't fucking understand how any of you can put up with AI text mannerisms, no matter what I do every model just speaks the same unnatural way with the most unnatural and repetitive prose imaginable. It completely kills the mood and immersion.
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>>548430842
>how any of you can put up with AI text mannerisms
I seethe and throw tantrums over them every day
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>>548385280
no, you can only play as cat girls or the program is bricked
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>>548434984
>anon (male) hates being forced to play as a cat girl initially
>completely different story six months later
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>managed to stay unsubbed to NAI for two whole days before caving
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>>548442620
what drove you back so soon?
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>>548407295
You're welcome, as always.
I get it. I also rather felt like 'bedchambers' was singular on its own, but it seems not to be.
I think there's a good chance it's a phrase he can have known, but it felt a bit off reading it used in the modern sense (though I don't think that's changed much in meaning since then) so casually. Technically, I could quibble on the way the year is denoted in a similar light, but that's an official thing, and I think that's fair for him to know and use correctly.
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I surprisingly don't get a lot of ozone from GLM but man does it sure love to describe women as smelling like jasmine (and vanilla to a lesser extent).
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>>548443991
NAI's system prompt for GLM.
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>>548327464
no, just for personal pleasure. i'm lazy, thx for the idea tho lol
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>>548443991
I keep getting random ideas while fapping
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>>548446676
How'd your dick removal surgery go?
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>give NovelAI another chance with GLM
>slow and slopped, no samplers, no working lorebook insertion order after a month
>10€ stolen
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>>548430842
Maybe I have rose-tinted glasses, but I honestly feel like it's gotten worse. Like models have gotten better at not fucking up information in the story, but at the same time they've gotten sloppier
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>>548425192
What's an actual?
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>>548430842
I hate it, but the other option is to get nothing.
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Z-Image seems promising as a local generator. Not the default one though, need to wait for an anime finetune. But it gets text right and follows natural language well. Looking forward to seeing proper anime tunes for it, the stock one is set to 3DPD azn girl output unless heavily prompted against
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>>548450262
It really does feel that way, and I think it's due in part to the RLHF bullshit. I really suspect that all of these companies are using the exact same curated 'safe' RLHF dataset and that's why most modern models latch onto the same exact names, themes, and tropes unless you smother it out via high quality context or instructions.
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>>548390310
>I need an incubator with neutral solution, a bioscaffolding printer, a myofiber manipulator of at least five micrometers of precision and a device called a biosignal transducer
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?
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>>548448871
not a nai fanboy by any means but what do you mean by "no samplers"? all LLM sampling settings outside of temp, top/min-p, and top-k are either placebo or only have measurable gains on paper because they had to justify a paper about them
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Hello, I'm pretty new to this
Trying to use NovelAI and I want a fantasy world with a lot of cards like the "Faerun/Xaxas/Kedar/Fiomar" worlds from Dungeon AI... any recommendations?
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>>548392667
Only the first iteration of Sage's prompt is good. The latest versions are just him insisting on himself
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>>548450876
It looks promising. I'm looking forward to the edit release too
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>>548458828
Would you happen to have a link?
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Owlbear sexo
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>>548468497
She is very pretty
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Anyone else in the scripting test? Anything you guys have for ideas to script?
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Oakhaven is the Elara of medieval fantasy town/villages
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>>548430842
I choose to have fun and correct the slop when it shows up, instead of wasting my time complaining about it. It's the only solution which works, you know? I don't like wasting my time for pity points and consensus.
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>>548472516
don't forget about the nearby whisperwoods
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Autistically spending half of the day working on a lorebook to have a quick but satisfying fap later.
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>>548475030
How am I supposed to get off without the prompt having hefty LORE and WORLDBUILDING and SETUP?
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>>548479356
>how am io supoded to get off without a prompt having hety loser nad world buding and serup?
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Bro had a stroke.
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>>548481951
>coom so hard your brains leak out
One day I wish to coom this hard too.
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>>548472516
What is an Elara?
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>>548485165
A meme that people who don't bother to flesh out their story and name their own characters receive as a result of the low effort they put into their input.
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>>548487394
Why Elara though? Shouldn't AI use the most used names statistically if you don't name character yourself?
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>>548487957
It's overrepresented in the training data. Datasets follow their dataset, which encompasses both nonfiction and fiction data; certain parts become overrepresented depending on the dataset origin.
Note, Deepseek and other models have the same issue with certain phrases and names becoming more likely to be used than what would be expected.

Basically, it's the contemporary version of Count Grey and Kyros.
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>>548488245
NTA but I never heard that name before AI
What is the training data? I though it was trained on the internet and books
Are there a lot of bad/not well known fantasy novels with Elara?
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>>548489914
No, if you try to go down the rabbit hole it's all AI, same with Old Man Hemlock
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>>548489914
If you can figure out how exactly LLMs come up with the shit they do, you could probably go sell your knowledge to a tech company for millions.
Best I got for Elara is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elara_(mythology)
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>>548489914
A name does not need to be common to be overtrained on. It just means something in the database got duplicated or trained on for more than it should. For example, the notorious appearance of Count Grey occurred because AI Dungeon trained on a sparse amount of text to an absurd degree.

In a similar sense, no matter how big a dataset is, if you train too much on a portion here or there, it will overtake the bulk. These things are temperamental.
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>>548498182
Now I'm just wondering how the coming finetune will rejigger everything. What will become the new standard names? What will replace looking up at the ceiling and seeing a water stain shaped suspiciously like a country? The possibilities are endless!
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>fake enthusiasm to bump from page 10
It's sad, really.
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>>548510735
Your suicide, you mean?
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>>548510735
Why don't you quit posting in these threads if you hate them so much? I can't think of anything more pathetic than that.
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NovelAI is worse than Haiku 4.5 with good prompting. How ogre is it?
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Deepseek v3.2 is O5 level.
>128k context
>$0.028/1M input
>optional thinking mode
Will NAI top this?
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How curious, that the last two posts spammed in a row add nothing of value.
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>>548514084
...to NAI. This thread is a NAI shill thread btw.
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>>548514158
The topic of discussion had nothing to do with NAI. It was about model datasets in general. That you feel a need to make everything about them is rather concerning, dude.
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>>548513657 (me)
>>548513856 (me)
>>548514158 (me)
im gay btw
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>>548513856
What’s O5
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>>548518319
Isn't the O5 Council the administrative body in SCP Foundation lore? Did the Froids create an anomalous model?
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>>548513856
You can't write cute and funny or say the n word thoughever
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>>548523528
It totally can, I've done both cunny and raceplay stuff on DS before.
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>>548468497
I didn't know I needed this.
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>>548531913
That's usually how that sort of stuff goes.
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Deepseek v3.2 verdict?
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>>548544494
implessive
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>>548544494
Bretty gud.
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A man needs good furry artist/vibe combos for 4.5
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>>548546928
Butch Hartman's artstyle sucks so much ass.
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What's the most generic-but-good non-flat artist tag you know for NAI? I'm trying to compliment with VT to correct those fucking chartags from TV shows so they don't look so TV anime faced without artist tags. VT handles the style of everything else just fine.
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>>548547870
riz?
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>scripting for NAI
will this let the Ai roll on my lorebook of monster girls to have a genuinely random species show up when prompted? if yes, maybe I'm on board with the idea
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Honestly, Kimi feels like GLM on drugs, and Deepseek feels like an inbred combo of Kimk and Gemini.
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I hate that all the non-data harvesting providers for Deepseek are fucking drunk today and refuse to give me outputs. Shit like this is why an additional services will always prevail. Even when I dual wield services, it finds a way to cockblock me.
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>>548547870
kek, oregairu characters can be kinda fixed by UC'ing dars_(recolors) and sakayaya because of their prominence
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I shit you not, this is the first gen. I honestly thought it would not immediately become lewd.
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>>548555423
>I didn't think this cliche, lewd phrase would become lewd
Insert Squidward stock phrase here.
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>>548555423
>question and answer all at once
AIIIEEEEEEEE SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>548557994
If you have nothing of value to provide to the thread but random tantrums, quit responding to people, asshole.
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I think I found my first true GLM-ism that I've never encountered in any other model.
Homecoming
Did Z.ai overtrain on FFVII fan fiction? I've had it pop up several times across two unrelated stories now.
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>>548564863
kill yourself zigger
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>>548546928
quagmire toilet ahh mf
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>>548568316
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>>548568316
Uh we don't say the Q word around here. We are strictly Cash Pope Gang.
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>>548546928
fuck at first I thought the nose was the mouth
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>>548569781
me too, from the thumbnail
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How do I get the AI to chill out a little?
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I'm so good at worldbuilding
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I'm so bad at worldbuilding
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I steal my workbuilding from existing media
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>>548587669
>>548591203
>>548591283
Same
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I steal my worldbuilding from real world history but shuffle names and dates around a bit
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I lack confidence in my ability to pass as a human so to avoid getting self-conscious I make all the characters inhuman
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>>548600379
anon
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>>548600379
Humans aren't so complicated, we're just apes that fuck (or want to fuck) and die. It doesn't come with an instruction manual.
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>>548546928
Looks more like a human girl with a massive goiter.
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>characters break the plot and tell you to stop being you
everyriem
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>>548244908
I get a kick out of people freaking out about AI gfs and the like. I was going on pretend dates with my waifu before some of these kids were even born. We used to have to imagine the whole conversation in our head, damn it.
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>>548616405
Those were the days
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Worldbuilding
1. my fetish
2. how to have sex
3. supplementary fetishes
simple as
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>I can't find her
>Oh there she is, the person I said I couldn't find
I fucking hate computers bro.
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>sub ended
>rent increase
it's over for me clown world... owns nothing...
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>>548629751
This, but also add favorite parts of alternative history on top of it.
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>>548546928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF18NehJxos
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>>548634529
Consider the whale.
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>not generating 10 free tier gemini API keys across 10 different projects and adding a logic to his frontend to pass the prompt to the next key when it detects resource cap
Skill issue.
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>>548643416
I thought you can’t use Gemini 3 with a free tier api key. It says I have a quota of 0
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>>548645143
So just use 2.5 pro. It hasn't been deprecated yet. Just set the model in whatever config setup you have.
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>>548643416
Absolutely diabolical. Are you Jewish?
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>>548643416
I considered that too think you might just get banned account overall if you do that. If you don't, let me know.
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Give AI a challenge not to use certain words.
>Her scent was earthy, like damp soil and ozone after a lightning strike—wait, no, not ozone. Like petrichor, the smell of rain on dry earth
And no, I don't know why she would smell like that.
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>>548649151
It knows humans like rain
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>>548649463
I do, means I would have crops if I couls own the seeds and land anymore...
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>>548649926
We've only been farming for a tiny fraction of our time as a species so if anything it's probably a way to make you seek shelter, if it evolved specifically for any purpose at all and not just as a byproduct of our sense of smell in general
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>>548651069
got some shelter?
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>>548651069
It's actually a standard mammalian trait to detect fresh water, which is obviously crucial to survival.
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>>548651260
I exchange pebbles and seashells for my shelter every moon cycle to the Chosen tribe, who owns all of the caves and huts this side of the Great Land
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https://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-hypebot
It's up.
Contributions welcome, especially for the default prompt and CSS.
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tfw no medieval fantasy potato seller gf
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>>548653586
Buy an ad.
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>>548659515
>whines about the thread being a "NAI" thread
>whines when people post non NAI contributions
Buy a life. Yours is shit.
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>>548659810
>t. bot
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>everyone I disagree with is a bot
How can one person be so mentally ill? What's the point in you posting in these threads if you're just going to bitch and moan about everyone else living a better life than you?

You don't deserve internet access.
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Okay but I'm actually a bot and I made every post in this thread?
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time to spend the evening playing AI roguelite once again
I'm living the nick walton dream
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>>548663480
What a tweest
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>>548523528
It must suck being a racist pedophile then.
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>>548686607
You rang?
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>>548687112
No
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>>548687112
He was talking to me.
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Why are you botphobic?
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>>548651653
That doesn't explain why humans in particular are so sensitive to the smell.
Also someone bake
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for those that use ChatGPT... what prompt do you use for longform text? ty
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at work again
>>548715616



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