>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG (out of date): https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>547325647
>>547386025It is 15 degrees warmer since the last time you posted! Keep it up!
>>547385880thats me except i have no wife im just alone
>>547385880kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0VovnyjPY
>>547387129I saw this. Our boy ZUK is doing a circuit. Spreading the good news of the CONJUNCTIONAROONI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NsYZ3eIsXs
Why is it okay to call card and dice games "roguelike"?
>>/v/726498494>>/v/726504808Aren't you guys worried that Steam might enter its darkest days by the time you release your game on it? I know I am.
>>547388214retard
>>547388214I am not really concerned with how or where I will distribute my game because I am too busy devving.If need be, you can mail order a cd-rom copy, just send me your address.
I put my game on USB drives and sell it to the kids when they’re walking home from school.
>>547388214>>>/v/726498494>>>/v/726504808fuck
I cant concentrate either these welders next to my apartment fixing the logo for the supermarket
>>547388792ok kramer
>>547388706Sounds kinda exciting to be honest, if it goes down it will be fun to watch.
>>547388889Steamies will finally get what they fucking deserve.
>>547388862>>547388792https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnT58cIJSpw
>>547388862You vill own nothing
damn>>>/v/726501702
Would YOU play an AI game?
>>547390227yes if it looked good. but I haven't seen any that look good, yet
How do I make this meme into a game? I can program it, but how do I gamify it?
>>547388214my game brings an end to all dark ages. My game is pure light.
>>547390516>Carry on the light, before the night is gone>the spirits of delight is free for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqvv2OfGjgc
I love red haired woman.
>>547391394yo momma caused 9/11 and caused the saudis to buy ea
>>547391573And Epstein definitely didn’t use that same airport the terrorists learned to fly at for his private planes occasionally and didn’t have access to large amounts of cash he could hand off to Saudi terrorists around the year 2000, right? I need to take my meds?
>>547391524With ASS/BREAST/THIGH/SHOULDER FRECKLES!!
Why the FUCK is there ZERO good info on what engine to use??? people say unreal takes 8 months to learn just to make a prototype unity and godot are considered equal in ease of use but different in performance (but actually not :DD) FUCK YOU DUMB NIGGER JUST TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD USE FOR A REASONABLE INDIE GAME
>>547391758It’s just a coincidence that the US video game industry is being sold to the highest bidders, which happen to be Saudi, Mossad, and Chinese investors. There’s not a bunch of Jews starting wars, creating racial tensions, and selling this country out, I’m imagining things again. Sorry guys.
>>547392118Because you're fucking retarded if you expect some kind of essay on the internals of each engine and statistics on how long it took for an average user to learn the UI and not just bullet points that tell you what each engine is best suited for off the shelfJust use fucking Unity
>>547391394hey, pssst, you... yes you! Look what I have for you. Check this out. https://jmail.world/It's pretty good, I promise! I think you gonna get the kick out of it!
>>547391758yo momma is mossad working for isis, fuck you terrorist
>>547392356You click on mine first. https://www.NobodySerio.us
>>547392242Pohhh I want to have sex with this green thing but it'll be bad for the progress of my game...
>>547392445
>>547392704i'm black, the original Israelite, you honkey cracka
gemini is going to make my dick explode
>>547392118Just C++ and SDL is enough.
>>547392703Yeah, don’t do it. Commander Cactus was 24 hours from release 5 years ago. I could have easily cashed in on everyone’s COVID money if I didn’t get distracted.
>>547392915>Commander CactusI had to completely axe my planned gameplay and story because it no longer aligned with what I saw as truth in the universe.
>>547392054Exactly. Makes my mouth water.
I'd like to warn everyone about /v/3 and it's leader, Betz. Betz has repeatedly tried to sabotage and ruin this community with his show which he pays for viewbots for. >He's attempted to scam devs out of their money promising free comet browser >He attempted to steal participants games with a footnote on their site >He caused archtower to cancel his game by forgetting his trailer >He is now requiring YOU to pay to be on his show >He has been outed as a genuine schizo and some are speculating he is the gore spammer Betz, you are not welcome here, you are not wanted here and anyone attempting to (you) me is probably Betz himself trying to anonymously defend himself. It's over, Betz. Kindly fuck off.
How do you guys feel about sentence titles like 'Papers, Please', 'No, I Am Not a Human?, and 'That's not my Neighbor'?
I’d like to warn you about me. I’ve been on the domestic terrorist watchlist for 5 years, until the Trump administration removed me and fired half of the FBI.
>>547393413Feel nothing.
Progress alert
>>547393483For the first time in 5 years I am able to drive around without police or criminal informants following me around spying on me.
>>547393762>its got that pizzaz! (Non linear animations)>logarithms are your friend>gmi
>>547393870>>547393870My air conditioner sounds like an angry nigger. Just got to tune out the navy radio waves.
>>547394251I used to live close to one of the largest Air Force training bases. I swear to god they would put my address in the nav points for training missions just to break the sound barrier right above me and trigger me into thinking there was incoming rounds. I’d be in the house all day, as soon as I stepped out in the yard I’d have T-38 Talons breaking the sound barrier over my head, then turning their transponders off and disappearing off of Flight Aware.
>>547393413A game's name has to roll off the tongue for it to be good'Papers' please' is a good name but those latter two are artsy and retarded
>>547387129>be a marketer>go to every devtuber to market yourselfLooks legit
>>547394748Yeah radiowaves are a hundred year okd technology. I wouldn't put it past them. They got something called haarp. Whats that for?
>>547394748Then when they finally kidnapped me and took me to the VA, they did the same thing to me there. We were supposed to have a Yoga session, and someone was pounding from the ceiling above with a sledge hammer, and everyone pretended like they couldn’t hear it, until I started laughing, and they mentioned construction upstairs.
>>547394056Thanks man. took longer to implement than I expected, but it's decent as is and easy to adjust.
>>547395464I just started playing with Illustrator yesterday, now I’m all stoked to finish my GUI so I can add sliders and value adjustments to all my little effects demos and quit tweaking them in defines and rebuilding them. I’m getting there, but all the animations still look a little stiff.
Guys, the era of vibe coding is here to stay.
What is the best rpg maker version?
>>547395894If I ran Godot, I’d have an agent in that bitch trained on GDScript yesterday.
>>547395894kek gemini 3 is free and has x32 the context window, also it's better in EVERY metric
>>547396108You can use any model with VSCode, I literally switch back between several different providers for different tasks.
learning time.https://youtu.be/CSa5O6knuwI
>>547396108These are the models available on the $30 Github Copilot plan.
why is this AI general?
>>547396620esl
>>547396476I stick to Claude Sonnet 4for anything that actually needs logic implemented, and have been using GPT-4 for find and replace, or simpler rewrites. I’ll need to try out GPT-5 out in the next couple of features I implement to see how it works.
>dev is a stuck up ass>main social media account is on bskyMany such cases among /agdg/.
Look forward to seeing the ai generated games then
>>547396867My game isn’t AI generated because I don’t want to type out the same functions I have been typing out for 20 years.
Theres more to tech than the computer. Robots, holograms, hoverboards.Those things are the future the computer id the past.
I know a bubblesort algorithm works, I don’t need to type it out. I can have AI do it for me. You don’t know what a bubblesort is, or how it works. You just tell AI to fix the list, and it doesn’t know what you’re talking about.
>>547396825>dev is an argumentative psycho>main social media account reveals he's some kind of western or northern europeanMany such cases among /agdg/.
>>547396671answer
>>547397262You dont seek greatness you seek comfort
>no devs are brown people disturbing the whites from getting work done, trying to leech off of them>many such cases across history>the /agdg/ is no different from anywhere else
>>547386684my game will make it and i will marry blonde israel woman like this
>>547397521show your game whiteboi
>>547395667good luck with your system. post progress when it's getting ready.
>>547397613
No.
>>547393762based on your game im guessing that you want to be a promiscuous weeb black woman (AGP)
My game's setting is getting more and more retrofuturistic, I've noticed that no matter what the fuck it is the 50's tend to start showing up in my artGuess that's what happens when you religiously play the Fallout games as a kid
>>547398031https://youtu.be/Uf7Pn8GB_jI
>>547397696you will see
>>547398487good luck
Im superior than most people in every metric. Its so unfair people wont acknowledge it.:/
>>547398249What would you classify the 80s/90s Japanese style of sci-fi as? Would it just be 80s retrofuturism?
>>547398765Like if you looked at my dnd sheet as a character i maxed out on everything except luck
>>547397521Good morning sir. I am being a animator. This animation is doing the animateful for as the example for the animate that I can make do.If you wanted to work with me, I can be on your team. Send me your application sir with all your project files in my email and if you are lucky I will chose you for to work with. (send SABHEE data, project files with textures unpacked in easy blend file with all your names removed sir)Once you have make that I maybe will work for with you as animated.
>>547399115i need her
got those terminal based mountains going.
>>547399097Okay maybe low dexterity
>>547399115boobs don't move like that
>>547399320Tall checkChongus checkStronk checkIntelligent checkThose are my dnd statsIve been in fights, i beat people in chess I invented tgd pisno necktieWhat have you doneNothing
>>547399489That’s pretty accurate for big boobs in a bra, but laying on her back. You would know if you’ve been there.
>>547399320Personally, I have small pp, max ugly and low stamina. Just ask your mom.
>>547399610not all of us have boobs, anon
>>547398031Nah you just develop tasteIf you notice retrofuturistic things tend to have strong forms tightly correlated with implied functionality, not very efficient but rather punkishIt gives them character
>>547399868Oh, well we only allow big tiddied nodev gamesluts in this thread now, unless you are a progress poster.
>>547399868Tomo....
>>547396047 what rpg maker version do you guys use?
>>547399868ywnBAW, yuna/alice/luna
>>547399868liar
why cant i shadow drop my game on steam why do i have to wait two weeks?
Found it
>back in my day when your son was a faggot and wanted to wear a dress>you sent him to the Marines with all the other faggots on the ships>he’s still faggot, but at least he doesn’t wear a dress
>>547400372i have that haircut
>Use photo references of spread pussies>Retards on 4chan tells me why it doesn't look like anime cunny and if I've seen a real vagina
>>547400525>he would rather send his son to uss liberty than allow him to dress up as a godot developer
Why dont they give soldiers weed thatd probably give them better reflexes
>>547400195if I personally had to pick one it would be vx ace since I would rather script in ruby over java
>>547385880In my latest episode of trying to do something productive while procrastinating I'd like to ask a question:Are there any Steam STORE PAGE emulators? So you can see exactly how your game will feel with screenshots and video added.
>>547400704
>>547390506>I can program itUnironically how? What do I need to do to become like this?
>>547401280I saved up my allowance and bought these books. They came with the DJGPP C compiler for DOS. I learned some C, downloaded the Aleggro graphics library, and started making stupid games that I never shared.
>>547401280Start with a text based game in c++ desuThen graduate to game enjin
>>547392118sdl2 if you can actually programgodot if you can't and you want to actually make games
>>547401712Seconded. Yeah, if you’re gonna start with text use C++.
>>547390506how'd you hack into my HDD? stop leaking my design doc slides.
>>547401776>sdl2
>>547400796I’m not that old, but yes, I would rather my son suicide from combat stress than from gender dysphoria.
>>547401613Boy, I should have done that when I was younger...>>547401712>text based gameI-I have one of those but I used twine. Should I just... remake it in C++?
>>547402021Listen ameritard youre doing it to yourself. Let me ask you how would china react if the us became communist. Riddle me that.
>>547402240>Let me ask you how would china react if the us became communist. Riddle me that.collapse without having a tit to latch onto economically?
>>547402441No china would lose its edge. The us would go back to making shit.
>>547402525china has the edge? in what domain
Everybody knows the direction we’re going. Hypercapitalism with UBI ubertards spending their credits on bing bong points. You’re either in or you’re out.
>>547402802Factories.Making shit.
>>547402921Shit that no one needs. That’s why everybody in America is going to be poor in the next 5 years. We’re doing this the hard way, then they are going to be begging for UBI and weened off of cheap Chinese shit.
>>547403104>We can starve our people into compliance too China! It’s not magic! You’re not special!
>boot up biteslop>scroll down>immediately see Brannowtf
is it true peridev got pump and dumped by troons
>>547403654Fygoon just assumed Peridev was always on the troons' side
>I could tell what they were doing the first time I started looking at the threads. >look its magic!>we know which games are gonna make it!
>>547403104>you don't need homes or cars or phones or food, goy
>>547404036It didn’t have to be this way.
People running scams, not doing the real work, just playing middle men, the leeches have destroyed everything, the cattle are just as bad. Look at this thread. 90% of the posts are people trying the play the system rather than gamedev.
>>547403451you can also find brannonce in other kind of videos if you catch me drift
>do market research>identify trends>make high quality game people are proven to want>1,600 reviews in 5 days after 4 months of creating their store pagebut i bet you're going to say it's still pure luck because they probably didn't have a 100% response rate from the influencers they e-mailed, right?copehttps://www.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/1p2r6qq/my_incremental_game_reached_1300_reviews_with_99/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3862670/Shelldiver/
>>547403394>>547404036>food>chinaLOL
>>547404712now post the other 1000000 incremental games released in that same weekyou won't
And he’s back replying to himself.
>>5474050384chan doesnt let me to post more than 2000 characters
if that game was my game it would mean he's at around 200K sales!but in reality, very few games have a review ratio that bad, especially twice! only me!
>>547404712what fucking market research would result in "the people want to play a pixel tycoon/shooter hybrid as a cartoon turtle"
>>547404712One look at that page and it's immediately clear something is omitted. 1) It was very probably made by more than one person. 2) He's probably lying about the amount of time it took. 3) The budget for the game is very probably higher than is being implied. 4) We don't know what connections and deals went behind the scenes. 5) There's very probably a publisher involved somehow. I just can't prove it yet
Zukworshippers, riddle me thisWhy, despite the so-called great conjugation, amount of successful games on steam stays the same
>>547405038How about picrel that came out a few hours ago?Or maybe this one from 22 hours ago: https://steamdb.info/app/2348540/charts/Both have made more money in less than 24 hours than your game ever will in its entire lifetime.
>>547405608Attention economy. Better things don't get proportionally higher attention. All attention is siphoned into 1 billion marketing budget AAA titles and games that distract people from the suffering.
>>>/mu/128548277cris do the work as mi parce and bump my thread
>it works
>>547405656>20 reviewsthat's pretty far from 1600
>>547405883Is this bait or are you genuinely low IQ?
>>547406126It says the game has 20 reviews
>generate keys>bot your own click game to show like it has an active player base
>>547406193>genuinely low IQUnderstood. Have a nice day.
Gamedev on pause
>>547406389pre-rolled? why?
>>547406389fygoon? don't smoke weed bro that shit's going to fuck up your brainunless you want to lose 10 IQ points, enter psychosis, and reduce your odds of being successful at literally anything you do
>>547406389>ai pedophile is a junkie
>>547392496nah
>>547405787kys
>demons triggered by plant
>>547406389clean your fucking nails
>>547406615>kys
>>547405729i feel like 4chan's battle-trained (you) addicts should be better attention economists than ivory tower AAA marketing budgets in today's world
>>547407308Huh
how do i get good at drawing?
I knew I was good at everything already but I didn't know I was this good
I don't know how they fucking did it but I swiped this from the /v/3 production chat and it looks like they're doing a live action show next summer.
>>547407308Shitposting is low-investment. I don't want to taint my hard-earned game with my attention seeking edgelord antics. It might seem like a good idea on the surface but if you've been burned before you know that it can ruin your reputation permanently to try to play that game
>>547407481>>547407501hivemind
>>547406389yessSSSIRRRRRRRR
>>547407308Look how that turned outhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1437760/Peripeteia/
>>547406389>pre-rolleddo unitedstatians really?lmao
>>547406496this unironically i recently went straight after just having like a shit ton of access to weed vapes and nicotine vapesim now realizing people much more talented and smarter than me trash their brain with drugs and lack motionweed is the quickest way to a motionless nigga /rant over thanki for reading my blog
finished my barbarian character
>>547408105
>>547408071this ain't the 3D CG animation general lil bro
>>547407968>country with the cheapest and best weed on the planetpipe down lil nigga ur out of ur element here
>>547408071nice, now show the topology
Are we the plaything of fiends? Or merely the dreamsThat we're telling ourselves, telling ourselves?
my taste in games is genuinely so absurd i often doubt my ability to make games that anybody would likei don't care
>>547408197
>>547408105LMAO
>keep fucking around forever trying to fix rubberbanding in my game>give up>cut things out so i have a minimal repro to ask about on the forums>no more rubberbandingFrom now on my first instinct is going to be "I should ask about this on the forums" so I can solve it while writing the post
>>547408071That looks good
>>547407560>ruin your reputation permanentlyi literally made 2 international news school shooting games AND streamerbait games as well as other "more serious" games and barely anyone noticed and anyone who noticed didnt carethat's probably down to gamers not caring about developers in the slightest and that 99% of the market is american who famously have the collective cultural memory of goldfish
>>547408267>>547408071for which game is this? Looks very slick
>>547408071dayum son
>>547408267mirin wireframe... mireframe...
>>547407560I AM MY SHITPOSTS
>>547408501I want to be the director of my own respectable studio one day. You have different goals from me.
>>547408501That's because you forgot to make your games good.
Why did i announce seeking attention lol
>>547404712>making games based on what people want instead of what you wantthe definition of soulless
>>547408648ayup, I'm thinking based
>>547408440>rubberbanding>so I can solve it while writing the postThat’s called rubber ducky programming. You don’t even need the forum, you just put a rubber duck on your desk and explain the problem to the ducky.
>>547408678i think the only thing he wants is money
>>547408678I want the dev expirience to not be that bad thats what i want lolMaking an rts would be eh
>>547407481Why do you want to be good at drawing little girls?
>>547408648my goal is to make things and have people experience the things i make....
>>547408528thanks, it's for me and a few other students final university project. we are making a tactics roguelite deckbuilder and might keep working on it and release after the course
>>547408648that mentally died in the fucking 80s
>>547408762that sounds gay as fuck
>>547408898There are 3000x many more game studios than there were in the 80s.
>>547408869>tactics roguelite deckbuilderplease tell me you're baiting
>>547408985Game demand its the highest its ever been i spose
>>547408980If you’re not willing to do gay shit, you’re NGMI.
>>547408678Stay poor, loser.
>>547408985and all of em are lily wipped lil bitches who gotta mind they p's and q's there was a thread the other day about cliffyb talkin bout how fucking sexy 15 year old girls was
>>547405787Becky...
if you could do a 3d game with retro anime graphics (as opposed to modern anime style) i think that would be popular. ive never seen one. sure some have retro outfits but not the actual retro character style
>continuing to build level>made some train tracks that you can't play on>wondering if the level is too big but I walked around it in under 2 minutes for the video so probably not>Depends how many players are on.Should be finished with this soon, hopefully everyone can play during demoday and nothing goes catastrophically wrong. I should try testing multiple people on the server before then.
>>547409459fuck off bocchitroon
>>547409123>make game he thinks everyone wants>flops>now stuck with slopgame to his name and still poor
Is there an online videogame store like DLSite where I can upload uncensored loli games?
>instead of deving im building a youtube account because nobody knows i exists
You guys dont think some people might want to play a tennis game? Whats bad about the idea?
>>547409624this guy is guaranteed to make money
might make some quirk chungus friendslop and hope it goes viral
>>547409624
>>547409709>some people might want to play my gamengmi
>>547409459intensely beautiful game
>>547409820Well the clothes on the 3d model are placeholders ofc
>>547409412Can you post an example game?
Is a stealth game too hard for a beginner dev?
>>547409624roblox store
>>547409568Do your market research. Validate early. Fail fast. Do not keep your head in the sand.
>>547410019im not the same guy but i thought of making a Scifi Tennis game called Tennis 2077. you could have it be more extreme, maybe cybernetically enhanced, maybe antigravity idk, could slightly change the tennis rules and say lore wise they changed over the decades. im never going to do it though
>>547409715Game Idea:Combine Resident Evil Outbreak with an extraction shooter
>>547409709what's the hook?
>>547410097NTA, but the NES Akira game but it actually looks like the anime.
>>547410019another tennis game idea i had was Death Tennis where you kill each other via tennis somehow, its Tennis: TO THE DEATH! gore game
>>547410215gmifail forwards, as they say
Guys a good game outside of some genres such as rpg is good physics. Tennis is a physics based game. Tennis can be more fun than yandere simulator slop. If your gamd doesnt incorporate physics youll gravitates towards that. And im no physics person.
>>547410227>>547410371and im just now realizing both ideas can be combined into "Death Tennis 2077"
>>547410120I found the hardest part of making a stealth game was making the player aware that they're losing without putting big icons on screen
>this retard spent days failing to download the unreal third person template and he still thinks he can make a physics tennis game
>>547410738we all learn at our own pacei'm certain there's something you were slow to learn that somebody with more talent would have been able to judge you forplease be nice
>>547410537How badly was the player losing the game which you just lost
>>547410227>>547410371>>547410519nobody look at these ideas i decided im doing it. putting an identification code so i can sue anyone who does it after this thread: 8706712522
>>547410851I wonder if any of you guys would figure out how to make a silicon mask on your own never mind the rest
>>547409557But if you play the game you can bully the bocchifriends
>someone else made a game in the same genre I'm doing>the heroine's name is the same tooFUCKIT'S SO OVERMY PROCRASTINATION AND INABILITY TO LEARN AND APPLY MYSELF DOOMED ME
>>547410909You're a big guy.
>>547410851His and your pace are that of a 70IQ retard's. There are a billion different things you need to learn to make a video game, and you aren't even 1% of the way there. You will die of old age before you learn everything you need to learn.
>>547411110>it's Alice
>>547411110how does this happen?
>>547409459Based.>>547409557Cringe.
>>547411160That's the worst part, it's not Alice, it's a very specific name. It doesn't come from the same origin but it's spelt the same and sounds the same so it's hard to not think I'd be copying...
>>547411156>even 1% of the way there. You will die of old age before you learn everything you need to learn.im not him but i started the same way. in the same time it took me to reach 1% i reached 10% and the same time it took to reach 10% i reached 80% and now i know like... everything. and it took me 12 years though... i was stuck at 1% for like 2 years.. i would say i loosely know 100% of everything but in detail only 80%, i even make my own netcode libraries. snowball effect is real
Guys im 36 cut me some slack lol
>>547410738Huh? You're joking right? That comes with it by default...
>>547411156why do you care? less competition, go be successfulquit hating, you're probably getting mogged by some anonymous 200 IQ japanese solo dev without even realizing it, do you want us to manifest him here so he can bully you?
>>547411469fuck off bocchitroon
>>547411376another reason i'd say i know 100% of everything involved in game dev is because even the 20% i havent used before is so easy to pick up now what with all the past knowledge, i'd be using it in a day.
>>547411376also if i think if i had AI to help me learn things so quickly back then instead of being stuck at 1% for 2 years then 10% at 4 years then 70% by 6 years it would be more like 1% in 2 months, 10% in 1 year, 70% in 2 years. every tool, including coding, has become so much easier than it used to be. making games is easier than ever. you had to be a genius to make one 20 years ago.
>fell into a hole of depression in 2023Can I recover and make it in my 30s?
>>547411861yes
>>547411845>AI>help learnspotted the vibecoder
>>547410215You can do this with games you want to make too
I'm Boutta FLIP LIKE A LID
>>547411861By your 30s youre stuck in your old unc ways uncle
>>547412027That's what I said in my 20s but people kept insisting i was wrong. Now with nothing to my name they're stuck on the same old story.
eat a bullet to reroll
>>547412148Wasnt there a time when people died when they were 40 anyways
>>547412278all that would do is make me reincarnate with my memories and trauma intact
>>547412404yeah but you could reroll as the master race aka indians.
>>547411612>do you want us to manifest him here so he can bully you?Unironically yes. This thread is shit because it's dominated by clueless low-IQ retards who don't have the capacity to understand how little they understand. Proven successful yesdevs have a God-given right to bully flopdevs.>>547411376Wow, surely that means you've made a game that you're proud of, right? Care to share with the class?
>>547412404reincarnation is a gay concept
>>547412749the truth is gay
>>547412015I don't think anyone actually *likes* making UIs for spreadsheet simulators, but that the kind of game that people want to play.
>>547412795If something has the shape of a woman its less gay kek
>>547412729your not better than others just because god gave you more IQ points
>>547412951nope, still gay. faggot.
>>547412795reincarnation is not the truth, just as christianity or atheism aren't the truth either. it's retarded to act like you know the nature of reality when it's unknowable until we die.
>>547413616I know the truth. You're an edgy faggot with no life.
>>547413686>I know the truth. You're an edgy faggot with no life.only an edgy faggot with no life would say this.
>>547413787takes one to know one, nigger
>>547404712I joined the discord to snoop around, I see they are acquiring new discord members almost 50 a day. I must make an effort to learn the ways of the discorddevs ( like https://drenindoku.itch.io/deep-snow-delivery ) for they are very powerful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR20NZLQMNM
>>547385880>makes new thread 50 posts early>other thread still up at 730 postsholy fucking annoying cancer. don't make a new thread again
>>547413140Incorrect. I am actually measurably better than you because god gave me more IQ points, more height points, more charisma points, and more nepobaby points. I didn't need to spend 12 years to learn to write networking code. I wrote an instant messaging app at the age of 13 or in my AP CS class.
>>547405482
>>547413853Alright, we agree that we're both edgy faggots without a life.
>>547414031>OP is a shitpost ai SLOP post>OP made it in a shitposty wayNaturally
>>547411357no you dont understand. you acutally have to double down and keep everything the same as your vision. this is a test to see who's vision is stronger. will you kneel down like a BITCH and accept their version?
>>547411376cris you are so fucking retarded it blows my mind
>do gamedev as a hobby (programming, art, music, writing) for years>don't release a single game>decide to drop the hobby>year later get the itch and decide to come back>everytime i do anything gamedev my brain start to feel sad or extremely boredam i broken?
>>547411376everyone truly does learn at their own pace butit really be like seeing lil niggas just go super saiyan
>>547414571have you considered actually making a game
>>547414031The worst part is all the faggot retard zombies who went to the new thread instead of just reporting it and staying in the old thread.
>>547414571power through playa. your brain is trying to trick you because you had such a rotten time before but now your better and more wiser
I will go chill in the old thread for a bit and finish it off. Do not follow me I must go alone.
I've been handpainting all my textures because I want my game to be unlit, but it just occured to me I also want characters to get darker as they enter into a dark area like under a tree or a level takes place at night. That's not crazy, right? I swear I've played games that did something similar with unlit shaders.
>>547414862light probes
progress >>726530173
>>547414652i did. several. but i lost interest because of two things:1. i slowly realized they were still too ambitions2. there are people with 0 knowledge are using AI to make games which makes it all feel pointless now>>547414791i don't know. it kinda hurts, in a depression-tier mental pain, when i attempt to gamedev now. it's like my brain is saying to me "no, we will no longer waste any more of our time on this. go enjoy life and play a game or something instead."
proggs here, forgot how to cross-board >>>/v/726530173
>>547415156you sound like a pussy fag you should just give up
>>547415156yeah i know. it never goes away. you can only face fuck it and power though. failure hurts and it sucks but if you truly feel that urge. that calling. you need to do this.
>>547415223yeah i should. you're right.>>547415325to some people failure stings a lot but they can shake it off in a sense. i personally just feel like it's dangerous for me to keep "powering through" and instead i should save my sanity.
>>547415601post your game and lets see if its worth saving*whimping out and not posting counts as losing
>>547415742there's no game no post. that's the sad reality.
>>547414984light probes...
>>547411861>>547414571You need to research dopamine and serotonin.
>>547414571No. Don't fall for the stupid social pressure brainwashing crap like "you need to be a rock star making tons of money and doing drugs and having tons of sex because that's the cool thing everyone is supposed to want to be even if you hate playing music." There's nothing wrong with just not wanting to do something. If you don't want to make games, you don't have to be a gamedev just because idiots are trying to portray it as what you're supposed to want to be.
>>547415156>2. there are people with 0 knowledge are using AI to make games which makes it all feel pointless nowNo there aren't. They're just shitposters and grifting indians on xitter pretending they can
>>547416006what about it?>>547416017i get that, but i personally loved the idea of gamedev. i enjoyed messing in world editors of games i've played as a kid. it only felt natural that i wanted to make games as a hobby (i chose not to go to a gamedev program at uni for example). i just thought i'd feel comfy devving as a hobby on my off time, creating worlds i wanted to create to play them. now? it feels like like a chore to my mind. i never wanted to be the next hideo kojima, just "that" guy who makes and releases these random games when he feels like it.>>547416248i literally know an acquaintance at work who just finished making playable game within 4 months. i was to play it and it even has multiplayer.
>>547416248Don't tell him that. If he's low enough IQ to believe in the grift, he stands no chance, and would be better off giving up.
>>547416582>what about it?It's central to ADHD and Depression or symptoms that are similar which is what's being described there.
>>547417050>do i get 4chan internet points for earnestly helping someone onlineseek help
>>547416582>i just thought i'd feel comfy devving as a hobby on my off time, creating worlds i wanted to create to play them.You want to be a level designer, not a game developer.
>>547417050ok so? what are you suggesting? that i have those and what? i should get on SSRIs?
>>547405787BECKY SEX
>>547417251I said research it lmao you should be strict about your sleeping schedule, adherence to daylight, not overstimulating yourself with dopamine stuff too early in your day but also making sure to do fun things in between work to keep your dopamine from flatlining. Be sober. Various things can naturally improve serotonin and dopamine.
>playing Halo 4 instead of working on my game
>>547417193Have sex.
>>547409568>now stuck with slopgame to his nameYour name doesn't mean a whole lot. Being an indie dev isn't like being in a band where people will buy your stuff because they like you, nobody knows or cares who the dev of a game is except in rare instances where they become e-celebs.
>>547417536>h4holy fucking zoomer cancer, leave. if you're honestly playing anything past h3 then your'e a certified zoomer retard and should never ever touch the cherished series again. you fuck.
should I drink a 2nd beer to optimize my programming ability
>>547417748unc...
>>547417804imagine drinking alcohol. i suppose if your dick doesn't work to begin with like in your case then you may as well
>>547417441i read into some of these things. i'm too tired of researching it because it's been several years of trying to sleep on time, trying to eat healthy, etc.>not overstimulateall i do is work and browse 4chan and youtube these days. i don't even want to play any video games that could overstimulate me. nevemind the fact overstimulation was never a problem for me ever before. if anything, my mind is suffering from extreme and prolonged exposure to boredom from work. if i do anything fun i end up being sad after because what go up (my mood/overstimulation) must come down. and the better i feel the worse i crash out. i dunno man, i live like a monk almost at this point.
>>547418085you don't live like a monk at all because a true monk can interact with everything in the world but just not get attached to it. the monks you see in the news and at temples and shit are fake monks maintaining a status for the world. a real monk is interacting with whatever he wants but remaining entirely in the moment and not losing himself. so no, you are not a monk, you just have no control over your body and mind yet. but you can get there with inner practice
Slowly getting there.
>>547418085>all i do is work and browse 4chanDo you shitpost? Shitposting is extremely extremely dopaminergic which is why we get so many schizos.
>>547393301>>He caused archtower to cancel his game by forgetting his trailerthank you for your pain
>>547418541I love that line lol>he missed the schoolbus and it killeded him
>>547418493no, you're just fucking retarded. shitposting is one of the healthiest things you can do, retard. you're just typing a bunch of bullshit and posting it because it's fucking funny and you laugh in real life over it because it's goofy. that's healthy you stupid shit. grinding an mmo for the next level is not healthy
>>547418287i said almost, not i live like one. and nobody has control over their body or mind. everyone gets attached to things whether they like to believe it or not. no matter how many layers of mental gymnastics and all the stoic bullshit they go though internally deep down they are attached to shit and have 0 control.>>547418493hmm maybe i little bit, but i stopped doing it because it started to seem pointless and a waste of my time.
working on the dialogue scenes now
>>547418636Could you imagine all that amount of pain when archtower hits beta status in a year or two? And I'm saying nothing about full release yet, woohoo...
Should I outline my game? (It's heavy on story)
>>547419232holy shit I didn't realize it was still EA. I thought he was just going in on post-release updates like a madman
>>547417441>not overstimulating yourself with dopamine stuff too early in your day but also making sure to do fun things in between work to keep your dopamine from flatliningcan you give an example? i noticed if i play video games in the morning then i feel crappy the rest of the day and it's hard to do productive things and chores. but if i abstain until say evening time then i feel better about having fun. the problem is...the rest of the day is boring as fuck so when i wake up i sort of dread the daytime. so i really wonder what are those fun things i could be doing in between work to keep your dopamine from flatlining. i tried scrolling /v/ but that seems to have the same effect as gaming in the morning.
>>547417050NTAMy ADHD cripples me in a way that few understand. I have the most intense personality anyone has ever dealt with, and in the last social setting I was in it completely crippled my ability to form genuine attachments, because all I had to do was drop the mask to terrify people into blocking me even if they'd known me for months or years. I do not know how I can ever become a game dev because I can't connect with other people, I feel doomed.
>>547419465new fuck
>>547419649Im not a social butterfly myself
Where are all the shotacon games
>>547420180because you're an incel
>>547418374Cris you over did the sculpting unless this character is supposed to be a lumpy saggy hag
>>547420301I had sex yesterday :p
>>547419649you're a sperg, you don't have an intense personality, you're just a sperg who doesn't know who he is yet
>>547418748uh oh meltie
4chan is worse than videogames. Videogames can even leave memories whereas shitposting doesntPokemon for example
@547420609when you turn into a meltie? i agree, it can
>>547420609Should I play minecraft or elden ring
>>547420841gross neither
>playing my game instead of working on my game
>>547419485>i noticed if i play video games in the morning then i feel crappy the rest of the day Yeah anything dopaminergic or that puts you in reactive mode before you're fully awake should be avoided. If you can stretch your waking up period to 30 minutes or even an hour before any "screen time" that is best. https://youtu.be/oZDzd8jpGWc&t=236At the very least don't jump right into shitposts and videogames.
>>547421027>t armchair psychologist
>>547420841I mean the graphics are bad for nowadays but you can get an emulator and play zelda ocarina of time… that too
>>547421180The only Zelda I have played and enjoyed is skyward sword
>>547421180>what is the analogue 3d
how do i get good at character design
>>547421127>t mentally ill and getting progressively worse
>>547421409
>>547420452It's not being a sperg. Spergs hate me because of the intensity of my personality.
>>547422290nah it's cause you stink
>>547422428Oh, you were funposting to cheer me up. Thanks anon I was too depressed to realize :)
>>547422492nah that's not me. i'm the op reply of your chain there and i just don't give a shit enough to read your response because i know i'm correct. it's how it always is with you 'intense' people. the truth of the matter is that nobody is actually naturally intense, you're just all fucking drug addicted women that can't control their own fucking body and mind. grow up dipshit
>>547419649>My ADHD cripples me in a way that few understandAgree with the other anon, you're just a sperg. Lack of social skills isn't a disorder, you can learn them from books.
How do I get good at making logos?
>>547422652>>547422687https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2874959/>Adults with ADHD had a pessimistic world view, believing that they had little control over their world. They were self-centered, introverted, withdrawn, passive, and more likely to be unconventional and rebellious. They were also less assertive, more yielding, more hesitant in their interactions with others, and more likely to voice their complaints.Sorry anons, I really wanted to believe it was autism too. It's nothing but ADHD all the way down.
>>547420609one time i posted a story about my autistic gym habits on /fit/ and it was screencapped and posted on an instagram meme page and got a couple thousand likespeople in the comments were calling me based
>>547422887Those symptoms could describe the majority of anxious or introverted people, as well a good chunk of mental illnesses, it's not like they're unique for ADHD
>>547422987that's the most zoomer thing i've ever read on this fucking website. oh my lands.
>>547423067https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8170979/>Results supported associations between ADHD and low Conscientious Inhibition and high Negative Emotionality. You don't know what it's like to have the actual ADHD, the kind that shows up on brain scans where your fucked up brain processes meth in a way that makes you snooze.
What are some other booming indie game discords I can infiltrate and pocketwatch? So exciting to observe thriving devs from up close.
>>547422687>schizo who can spend 30 hours at a stretch obsessively shitposting in thread doesn't believe ADHD is real Very common.
>>547423254How do you slip in undetected, or do you charge in boldly like a bull in a china shop?
>>547422887>Lemme give you the definition for my made up disorder which just so happens to apply to anyone who was raised with unrestricted internet access.Well anon as long as you've got an excuse and never have to take responsibility for and try to fix your behaviour, that's all that matters.Women do this but with the zodiac. You have scorpio energy
>>547423225>falling asleep after too much coffeelol the classic red flag for most.
>>547423385Is that how he's able to act like a woman while calling others women?
>>547423225>i have so little control over my body and mind like a woman that you must know that i have the actual adhd, the actual real adhd, i have a clinical excuse to be a manchild all my life and not work on myself
>>547422652>>547423407>calls everyone a woman>astrology wiccanlol inb4 >not meDon't care, you're gay. Stop bothering anons for having discussions that don't involve you.
>>547423407>>547423562>>547423651You okay big guy? Stimulants factually work differently for those with ADHD. It's interesting stuff.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4183380/
i think i need to admit that i only want to make flash-tier webgames and "io" games.
>>547423942But how many black and brown trans folx bodies do you care about?
>>547423779No I agree which is why I mentioned the coffee. I get sleepy from it which is a common way for people with ADHD to realize they have it. And it's why medication that causes other people to tweak out and get high (when abused) causes ADHD people to be calm and focused.
>>547423687>Stop bothering anons for having discussions that don't involve you.Worried that you don't understand how a 4chan thread works
Is it really over guys? Every fucking body and their brother already making games 24/7 for the last 10 years. And now, with AI even codelets, artlets, and brainlets can make games. How do you say "it's so over" iyc?
>>547422834>words words wordsthe greatest logos work without words, gotta look good as a saggy tattoo on a 70yo>How do I get good at making logos?that's basically the most difficult thing there fucking is.... AI will be able to gen cancer cures and still not be able to gen a good logo
>>547424091it's like reading preschool shit with your posts. you're so clueless on how to manage your own inner systems (ironic for a gamedev) that you think you have some bullshit disease but in reality your purposefully and retardedly running your systems at such a high speed that you're getting worn out which is why you get sleepy off of coffee, dumb shit. you're far worse than women, that's for sure, actually. there should be a third gender just called retard because that's what you would be
>>547424308Maybe you should ask yourself why you make games at all. Do you do it because you want to get rich and successful? That's stupid and you would fail anyway. If you actually enjoy making games you would do it even if not a single person bought your games or even played them.
>>547424091If only others knew. ADHD diagnosis could be chopped to a third or more if they admitted it's a goddamn brain disorder you can find with an MRI and not personality problem. Then the med shortage would be over and pill dispensers could find a new grift.
>>547424610>muh brain disordersyes just give lazy retards another excuse to be a brainlet at operating their own body
>>547424581Can't I want the games to be successful enough for me to live off of?
>>547424695Like you?
>>547424308What were you doing for the last 10 years if not making games? I started when I was a kid, I do this for fun. Did you think you could get into gamedev without spending at least 10 years grinding up your skills? Haha how could you be so naive? AI doesn't bother me the same way asset stores don't bother me. They're the same thing functionally but AI is worse because it actively sabotages skill development. An asset store only allows novices to build games that look like assetflips, so does AI. People spend far more time talking about AI than building anything with it.
>>547424737>esl can't into reading comprehensionyou're not the first
>>547424509It's not difficult at all, literally any logo becomes iconic if it exists for long enough. You don't have to think about it at all. Look at what pepsi did, spending a million dollars and a lot of time to redesign their logo in 2008 and make up a bunch of schizo bullshit to justify it, that's exactly what you don't want to dohttps://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-021109.pdf
>>547424902my standards for being rich and successful sunk below the basement okay
>>547424968holy fuck tardo, nobody gives a shit about pop can logos, go fuck yourself and talk about games
>>547424968Look at what pepsi's marketer did*This is what you get if you pay for advertisements btw
>>547425084>go fuck yourselfHow can I use a variant of this as a title for a selfcest game?
>>547424968>It's not difficult at all, literally any logo becomes iconic if it exists for long enoughalmost every AI company logo look like an anus.
>>547425084retard
>>547425289you made me horny again>dat captcha
>>547424561uh oh meltie
>>547425415you didn't get horny again, porn addict, your brain just got hungry for some more pixel drugs, incel
guys can I just say it? I love this hobby!
>AI xister is raging at everyone after being caught faking demoday submission pagelolSo grump grump for his next melt melt
>>547423397>How do you slip in undetectedI just open whatever their discord link is on the steam page and waltz right in.
>>547425506Retard
>>547393762Nice, very smooth.
>>547425289>doctor: what do you see anon?>anon: buttholes
>>547424898why would i learn skills for 10 years when i can just prompt the ai and accomplish the same thing in 0.1% of the time?
are you guys familiar with the growing genre of roblox-like games that arent on roblox (but are webgames / "io" games / etc on platforms like crazygames and poki? the biggest ones ive just tested out have thousands of players.this is completely new to me, like logging into some bizarro world full of people i never knew about
>>547425595lolll
>>547425289>>547426067its worse than that because they're all actually veiled stars of david, cubes of saturn, saturn itself, ouroboros devouring its own tail, and veiled 666's wrapped within sacred geometry. it all proves exactly who is behind all these seemingly separate companies, governing from the top. i dont want to elaborate, but it ends in complete slavery and subjugation of the human race that makes now look like a joke.
>>547426385how fucking new are you to everything in life, retard? would you please go shit up some other thread? holy fuck
>>547426570>>>/pol/
>>547426584i never know anything, its insane. despite spending all my time online. its because i have zero friends and never have had any. not only no friends but i dont communicate with anyone because i hate communication. thus no information reaches me.
>>547425595Real >>547372031
>>547426385for example look at this https://brainrots.io
>>547426375For you? It's pointless because you have sub-100 IQ and will never be better than the AIs already are. If you don't at least have 130 IQ minimum (realistically, at least 145+), you shouldn't bother with indie/solo gamedev because you're never going to make it.
>>547426570Wow I never heard of all that before in the past 20 years on 4chan you're really enlightened and wise.
>>547426385I refuse to blackpill myself with those psyops on children "games". It's like going down the "disturbing child youtube trends" rabbit hole.
>>547426956lmfao, this. that's what i'm saying
>>547427179yea its on crazygames but i heard the word penis like 10x already via the sfx. not that i care
>>547426946actually my iq is 125. i know it's a bit below the cutoff but since iq is a meme can we have a logical and rational discussion grounded in empirical truth and not strawman and memery?now, as i was saying. learning art for example, you could spend your entire life honing the craft and then someone will just use AI and make something equally if not better that what you can make with your skills and reap all the reward for 0.1% time and cost. Please bear in mind, 0.1% != 0%
>>547427179I know most of it is harmless also but the glut of brainrot, the fetishization of brainrot, it's like the adult swim era of shows that were so random and stupid that it was clear it was targeting zombie people. Naturally disgusting to a high IQ person.
>>547427382>125midwit.
ironically my IQ is 98 and im one of the only people here to ever make a successful game. $600,000 in 2011 like i keep saying here for years now.
Blender 5.0 is a BIG DEAL
>>547426375>accomplish the same thing in 0.1% of the time?you accomplished nothing albeit. the AI accomplished it.
>>547427534>ironically my IQ is 98>like i keep saying here for years nowthis explains a lot
>>547427606The AI wouldn't have a single clue what to output without my input though? You clearly didn't read my full post, at the end I clearly stated:0.1 != 0Your reading comprehension is borderline 'profound retardation' level I fear.
>did a few minutes of dev things>time to re-up the dopamine with some vidyaLet's goooooThis is what you must do once you're past the honeymoon phase where gamedev is so exciting and new. Now it has become work so I must recharge from it.
well i dont know about y'all but web games like bloxd.io are exactly something i would like to make. theres like 8000 players on it right now... can you imagine if you owned that? insane
>>547427534Iq is bologna What is it that people in another quartile have twice the processing power or somethingCant be right or else theyre acting dumb constantlyCan you even come up with a flowerly verbose prose if youre le smart.
just did 8 hours of game dev now time to play some mordhau and eat vegan chili. maybe watch Spartacus.
>>547427785Realistically speaking, if you have 10k players in your game. What level of income could you generate from it and how?
>>547427785then shut the fuck up and go make it? (you won't though because you can't into online multiplayer)
>>547427853
>>547427872>>547427785tfw i decided to have fun before game dev today and now it's 11pm and i have to start my tasks for the day.
>>547427912>saving this image to your computerSomething about this is so funny to me. The picture is hilarious too.
>>547427743>at the end I clearly stated:0.1 != 0Not in the post I responded to. I didn't see your new post, I don't have auto refresh on.
>>547425289and i guarantee all of these anuses were made by a human because the best an AI can poop out is clipart
>>547428081you have no idea
>>547428197post the oldest one
>>547428197all hand picked too btw not mass downloaded. i only saved pics i thought are at least 7/10
>>547428361I just google memes
>>547428493there's a program I use called agent ransack, good for that kind of search
>>547428337figured it out
>>547428631LOL
>>547428631rofl
proof
>>547428193i apologize anon, you're right. HOWEVER, i am still more right than you.
>>547427382AI does not make anything better than what people have already made. AI simply makes them faster and cheaper. Maybe commissioning art or buying assets is prohibitively expensive if you're an uneducated NEET loser, but this has never been a bottleneck for the rest of us with real jobs. I've been trying hard to integrate AI into gamedev workflows for a while now, but there really aren't many game genres where they're usable in a commercial-quality product. Currently, it's only really good for making porn and short-form video content. You can use it to make static sprites in games that use lots of those such as monclones and card games, but I've always been able to buy those from asset packs or commission them, and so AI changes nothing.Either way, whether you commission the art to AI or humans, you still need to learn art yourself, assuming you're a solodev, since you'll need to be the project's art director. The actually hard work in gamedev is in the design and direction, not in the production.
Use Claude Code. I'm a great programmer, but it's shitting on the output I can do myself with proper planning and coding as of sonnet 4.5. The code is good and clean, too. It's actually getting insane, anons. You have no excuse not to make your game now.
>>547429421bullshit
>>547429286I asked AI and it said I'm right.
He acts like the AI obsession is a meme and he's joking but the truth is this guy never had any kind of personality. Just a dud in every way. He got switched onto LLMs when they were new and novel and has been in a manic state for the past few years as AI reaches the mainstream and yet still... he has no game. A harrowing story.
Guys you cant have a melty every time s south american joins your interest.
>2d games have lost nearly all marketshare over the years. down to <5%
>>547430096lmfao. i actually read that whole thing. first of all, what does Hitler have to do with this? Second of all>just a meat interface operating a toolyou could just as easily say an artist or any skilled craftsman is just a 'meat interface' operating tool?People act like prompting an AI takes 0 skill the same way they act like being an 'idea guy' is not a real game dev role. In order to skillfully prompt the AI to create the desired output you have to:>have a vision in your head of what you want to make (people with aphantasia can't be good prompters for this reason)>be able to steer the AI to create the output you want (it never gives the proper output on the first try)>have understanding of how the AI 'thinks' in order to guide it. i.e. have sound logical thinking>be able to make small fine tuning adjustments at the end to bridge the last 1% gap between the AI output and what you actually need/want
please reply to this post with "2d" or "3d" depending on what you're making. it will be helpful for all of us here to know.
>>5474313872d. 2d topdown multiplayer browser game in js html css. most similar to space station 13 as far as looks and core gameplay goes, despite not being in the scifi genre or having anything to do with space.
>>547431387all games are 2d, enginedev btw
>>547424308that guy is an indie game developer? which game did he make?
>>547431125you can make 3D graphics with 2D gameplay.
>>547431496lmfao, still working on that fucking piece of shit? when's it gonna be ready? 2035?
>>547431162it was just the prompt. You're right, someone with skill and vision can make much better use of AI. so I will loop back to your post:>why would i learn skills for 10 years when i can just prompt the ai and accomplish the same thing in 0.1% of the time?
>>547431763in truth i never worked on it, it doesnt exist. i just keep coming here saying im going to. i dread actually trying to
>>547431927and once again my point stands. instead of learning art for 10 years, just practice for a couple days to learn the basics and let ai take care of the other 99%.ZERO POINT ONE DOES NOT EQUAL ZERO
>>547432023...so then why did you lie and respond to that anon, woman
>>547431927AI will never produce interesting or novel ideas.>but but magic buzzwordsAI can only statistically output what the decoder of the VAE calculates from their Z vector, which is derived from the dataset.It cannot magically create novel ideas that aren't already on the dataset.
...?
>>547432210no one can create 'novel ideas' everything has been thought of already. name one thing that has never been thought of?
>>547432446He is a retard, humans aren't making inventions out of thin air, everything comes from something.
>>547432446are you fucking retarded? there's literally a trillion things that haven't been made into games yet. we won't get close to making everything for at least the next fucking billion years
>>547432446my ideas are novel, because they mix shit from astrology, tarot, board games, history, literature, card games, manga, theater, music, philosophy, mythology, psychology, freudian pychology and hentai, 19 century hobbies, 1930 and 1950 hobbies and arcade era games and 1970 electromechanical games.Gaymers haven't made games about WW1 nurses, by example.Or a game about water musician girls from Vanuatu.Or a game about malalai of malwand, or a game about the queen of sheba, or a game about Victor I the great, or vassilica the beautiful.
'dite xisters how do we cope?
>>547432619your mental retardation and complete lack of fundamental knowledge is showing i fear
>>547432110>just practice for a couple days to learn the basicsmaking art makes you. your vision is tied to the skills you acquire, the morphing of the way you think and how you experience the world. To see new pathways takes skills you won't get without a new mind
>>547432747idc what anyone says cris is a genius
>>547433013he actually in all reality was a pioneer in pushing the importance of workflow. nobody else in this shithole has talked more about having a proper and efficient workflow than him
How do I fix this?
cris also knows if he namefags he'll get blocked so he taught me that if i want a recognizable identity here i need to start posting random pics of something that identifies me with every post, like that cat he posts. then none of you can block my annoying ass.
Just drew this bad boy.You think I can show it to my boss ( I work at Nintendo as a game designer despite being a recent high school graduate with no experience) and convince him to give me millions of dollars and a team full of seasoned professional game developers to develop a platformer with an hour of gameplay for Gameboy?
>>547433151true. shame he's all talk and no game.
>>547433354has more games than you
>>547432747ok, so you are just taking pre-existing things and combining them to make something 'new'.Guess what? THAT"S EXACTLY WHAT AI DOES!
Have a productive day, everyone (especially bocchi sistas)
>>547433013>>547433151>>547433151>>547433354I think the biggest diference between me and agdg is that I am not afraid to like research new random topics, or read books on weird shit, or listen podcasts about 13 century catar genocide.Meanwhile the average AI bro thinks AI will make a sucessful game, he doesn't reality AI can only follow what he prompts.And what AI bros can prompt will always be a small bubble of experiences and knowledge.AI can produce nice pictures quickly, but It can't produce a novel combination from your prompt.A prompt about cool isekai ideas will never produce shit like a board game where anime girls summoned like the dark magician girl has a leabian fight with angelwomon after being summoned to fight like shogi pieces.Because there's not such example in anime or games of that idea, the prompt will never lead there.>>547433438kinda.But my point is that your prompt can only reach a limited number of posibilities.Prompting about nazis will never lead in the decoder to Vanuatu water musicians, because there's no link right now between the two.So prompting cool nazi FPS ideas, will always be decoded into already existing ideas of wolfenstein and other nazi FPS.You will never get a nazi prompt to have a relationship to something totally unexpected like the Spartans or a chinese dynasty.
>>547432747>Gaymers haven't made games about WW1 nursesVampyr. Maybe if you played more games and watched fewer Japanese cartoons you wouldn't be so fucking stupid and gay.
>>547433393if you want to define game as something you slap together in under a week like cris does, no, cris doesn't have more than me.
>>547433623You are worse than a luddite
>>547433676I think there was a game in 2D about a WW1 war doctor made by ubisoft.
>>547433393by games you mean made in one hour prototypes?
Theres so many call of duties one has to be about ww1
>>547432768>'dite saars how do we cope?
>>547433681show us what you got then
Imagine if only agdg actually read history and discovered shit the sargent stubby.
Im in to deep into the tennis game. I have a bunch of animations ready too.
>>547433623I appreciate you doing lots of research. but there's always going to be a new(or ancient) topic that sparks your interest., stay a while longer on one topic. please make a rhythm game about cute brown girls slapping a river. you feel it. you've got the skills to make it. I'd play it.
>>547433817I don't think so but there's a Battlefield
>>547434028I know it may seem funny, but I am actually running out of topics to study.
>>547433883you tell 'em xis
I'm not really feeling the blonde for Cordelia to be honest
>>547432768>copes by faking >>547372031
>>547434158uh oh meltie
>>547434356when you say meltie you are a meltie yourself
>>547434419
>>547433885I made more in one month with klik & play in the summer of 2000 than he's made in his life.
>>547432747>>547433623How do you live such an aristocrat life cris? A man of leisure who spends his days studying. It's very kino.
>>547434616post your k&p game then retard, i'll genuinely play it
>>547434657I have autismbucks, lmao.
The creator of Rust (the game) just said that Unity is losing it's scalability and can't make open world games anymore. He said if they wanted to use Unity 2025 to make Rust, it would be impossible.
>>547434523xister got too cocky award >>547372031
>>547434095pedo post
>>547434914yea just fucking say facepunch retard, we know who they are
>>547434672they are lost to time. the concept of preserving my games wasn't on my mind at 7 years old
>>547434949What a moment of desperation for our AI xister. Got so upset being called out for having no game that they literally frauded a screenshot to try and convince agdg that they were actually a dev. How sad. Now when they keep coming back to the thread and pretending to "troll" us all I see is pic related
>>547435090larping retard
>>547434914rust was best in it's first release, it only got worse.
>>547435090yea you're just another bumbling fucking larping retard liar. go fuck yourself nodev
>>547435179not larping. relax bro all I said was cris "all talk and no game." which is something he'd probably agree with. he's aware of his flaws.
can we have a civilized discussion without letting it become a shit slinging fest like every other discussion in this thread?
>ai xister calling everyone nodevs after faking a demoday submission pageuh oh projection meltie we see lots of these lately don't we
>>547435052who?
>Wearing pants
>>547435336this actually looks kino. mind if i use this gif in my game?
>>547435456>this is all he has done for 3 weeksYou will never be a gamedev.
>>547435336you say you aren't larping but you can't post your game because it's 'lost to time.' you're such a shit eating fuck
>>547435513Ill finish the demo 2 months from now. By then itll be a fully playable tennis game. That's just the beginning done. Ideally less than a year from start to finish.
Kind of nice of the Japanese cartoon troons to take a break from spamming while those other two retards are flinging shit at each other. Wait a second...
>>547429673Nope. Learn how to use it. It's a skill with a high skill ceiling. It's incredible.
>>547435669Sorry kid I don't know what to tell you. Even as a shitpost you should have come up with more in all these weeks. Go find something else to do with your time, nobody wants to see someone humiliate themselves like this.
>>547435090how were you making games at 7 years old? i was putting square blocks in round holes and every kid i knew was also a retard
>>547435805he wasn't, he's doubling down on his original larp to save face
not only does it work, it's flawless
lold*tes crapping themselves right now while we work on our ambitious games
>>547435805I got klik & play from a pc magazine. first it was a demo but you couldn't save your games in that, a short time later I got the full version.
>>547435456IMG_1503>>547435975IMG_1504
>>547436026Samefag
>>547436026>>547436054post game
stupid Q but when someone refunds your game on Steam are you out only what you earned or the whole price?Like say with a $10 game, I earn $7, and it's refunded. Do I lose $7 or $10?
alright i decided im making games for crazygames/poki/etc. using js/html/css/threejs/etc. is it realistic to make money from this? grok 4.1 says its one of the surest paths as far as actually making -any- money at all from your game, as opposed to steam's 80% chance of making $0, it says webgames have only a 30% chance of making $0
>>547436336>is it realistic to make money from this?no
>>547436210bro think before you ask such dumb questions lmao
>>547435975>meanwhile in reality
>>547436210you can actually go negative and end up owing steam. there's been pics posted where a person's game earnings are -$40,000. they owe steam $40,000 for releasing their game.
>>547436336here's the deal with web games, retard: it's a more open market and nobody is quite yet preying upon anyone since you host your own game after all and all that shit on your own site, but it's harder and trickier to both find and keep players at all points in the process. whereas with steam you can catch some luck and at least get something instead of nothing if your web game doesn't catch on. bottom line is yes it's doable but it's tricky as shit. hopefully you get something out of that since it's rather difficult to convey in words the differences between the spaces exactly
>>547436665that's so fucking bullshit. post the picture assclown
>>547436518why is everyone permanently raging and angry ITT?
>>547437014I just asked gemini i think it can. Steam wont call the debt collector but you have to sell more than the refunds to get paid.
>>5474313872.5D
>>547437126the fags from discord make it their mission to shit up the thread in case anybody dares to make progress
>>547385880Put your dream game aside and make something fast and release it https://youtu.be/z_9sPkvhdCM&t=674
>>547437216imagine thinking that. the discord retards don't even post here
>>547437158>I just asked gemini i think it canThis is just the entire future of the Internet we have to look forward to. Having arguments with retards who don't know anything, who are asking AI that also don't know anything.
>>547437216>A group of skiers and snowboarders racing down a snowy mountainside. The mountain is covered with snowy evergreen trees and strange fantastical obstacles. The group of skiers and snowboarders consists of a penguin, a bear, a robot with cube shaped parts, a wizard with a big hat covering most of his face above his mouth, and a bunny. Drawn in a hybrid anime and comic book style with cel shading.how much more work will it take to make this ai slop into production ready asset?
>>547437304I don't accept (You)s from flops
>>547437126He got caught faking a demoday dashboard lolSo he's just been attacking people randomly all day. Like an animal.
>>547437390this is my actual game btw
>>547437390
>>547436612i see being a luddite has melted your brain
>>547437670>pedophile talking about melted brains
>>5474314962D. 3D has significantly more costs and takes way longer. Don't do 3D unless you have funding.
>>547437386that's the one thing i'm afraid of with ai. people are becoming reliant on what it says as it being the ultimate truth teller. it fucks up all of the time and says stupid shit, but young people eat it up
>>547437469go fuck yourself retard
>>547437670>everyone happily making games with their own hands >ai xister watches through the window and criesEvery shitpost you make is just another sad clown tear to me.
If ai is so great why haven't anyone made a degenerate porn RPG like CoC/TiTS or Tales of Androgyny but with AI art for all the scenes and graphics that change depending on how you make your player character look?
Luddites don't have games, yes you read that right. While you spend 18 hours a day whining about AI, I literally just generated a fully functional inventory system and an entire texture atlas in the time it took you to type out your seethe. You aren't protecting the sanctity of art; you're protecting your own laziness. You are the definition of a nodev, using a moral panic as a shield because you realized a chatbot writes cleaner C# than you ever could. Enjoy your "human spirit" while you sit on an empty project folder from 2019; meanwhile, I’m shipping my third prototype this week. Post your itch.io link right now or take your meds. You won't, because you have nothing. Filtered by a toaster.
>>547437390It will never happen. You can slice it up into movable 2D parts and try to make some 2D art with it but when you move it around in a game it will look extremely bad because the cel shading isn't updating to the lighting and you will be so trapped in one perspective. What if you want the characters to do something like turn around or make some gesture that you can't dig out of this picture? You need to prompt the same characters again, and keeping the result consistent will require you to continue editing every image until you're basically making everything from scratch.You'd be better off generating 3D models and cleaning those up and texturing them, then you can re-use that asset many ways without having to regenerate it. See I know all of this and still don't bother using AI because it's literally better just to use anything else right now.
I was going to post my game deployed to web here but none of you make games or even talk about gamedev anymore.
>>547438140>spewing outdated informationluddite moment
>>547437976But xis didn't you fake a demoday screenshot because you actually don't have a game? >>547372031
>>547438161....and nobody gives a fuck about your shitty non persistent online web shitter game, retard. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out nonce
AI Chads just can't stop winning.
>>547437390>>547437632what shit free model are you using to generate these?
>>547438250You're a fraud >>547372031
>>547438324It's already better than your entire life accomplishments.
>>547438339xis it doesn't matter what model anyone uses the cel shading still wouldn't look correct. See how you can't even comprehend this basic issue because your IQ is so low? AI cannot make a game for you xister I'm sorry. That's why you have no game.
>>547438335here, for you
>>547438489i only answer the call from bogdanovs sorry.
>>547438484didn't ask also kill yourself
>>547438598>didn't askBut xis you have to be told these basic things because you don't know them. You don't know the basics of AI for asset generation. You don't know the basics xis. You don't even know the basic things that newbies know after starting AI for 5 minutes xister. Xister you don't know anything about AI. You need assistance xis.
>>547438667you seem frustrated, time to take your meds
>>547438701Don't push me away xis. Mama and papa are worried for you. You have been "battling the luddites" for so many weeks xister. And mama and papa saw your "game" and that you aren't making a game and are failing so badly xister. Don't do this xis.
>>547372031>this is what xis has been up toOh no xister why? Oh xis this is bad xis! Now everyone knows you're not just pretending but you are an actual fake dev oh no sister oh no no no
>>547438282>no reply
the silence is deafening.
>>547438826meltie alert
>>547438380>>547438943Finally something that will shut him up. Everyone needs to save that pic and post it whenever he starts up.
its ludover
>>547437976>Enjoy your "human spirit" while you sit on an empty project folder from 2019But anon we all have games and demos didn't you see? You know when you were in your browser faking that you had demos too, didn't you see agdg has demos there? Hello?
>>547439465lol
nice amateur game dev thread retards
>>547440379>no replyxister is having a very bad weekend. no more pretending to be a gamedev :(
>>547440379can i see your game? thought so luddite
>>547435456Is this the uh>looks both ways"game" you pretended to submit to demoday?
>>547440082ai xisters aint beating the pedo allegations with posts like these
>>547440727hmm luddite xisters don't wanna answer this one huh
>>547440727>can i see your game?You can actually yes because it exists and people even play it. And yours? Oh. Okay I see. So sorry hope things get better for you xister.
>>547441000nice excuses xis'
>>547441082So sorry hope things get better for you xister. You appear to be numb now and not responding to everyone asking why you're faking things and not actually making a game. Hope you get better sis.
>>547441184nice try xis, but you still got no game
>>547440765i personally find it cute if someone here pretended to submit to demoday...
>>547440827That's not even an impressive clip either. xister doesn't know about that though they're kind of just pretending to be interested in AI and gamedev they don't actually know about the real techhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRp1E7An-EMBut even if they did know they wouldn't have a game. Xister just cannot do it.
>>547405656I love how their first game is friendflop with 14 reviews.multiplayer games and their enjoyers need to be shamed into oblivion.
When will the luddite xisters post their games? They are even posting ai videos now but still no games, very odd.
>>547418374Becoming a bit Rubenesque, I like it.
>>547441607>https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Right here xis! Isn't your game there too? >>547372031Oh... nevermind.
>>547441468>not understanding why the video i posted is different from yoursyep dumb luddite who doesn't know shit
>>547413982>I joined the discord to snoop around, I see they are acquiring new discord members almost 50 a day.So his assumptions about "make what people want to play" and "make incremental games" are useless lmao. All you need is marketing, which entails either going viral with promotion or somehow getting a circle of discord cocksuckers to buy your game day one.
>>547441742Excuses and more excuses, if only you had a game you could actually use as an answer.
I don't feel like devving today.
>tfw working on my loli game while agdg argues about ai
>>547441882>So his assumptions about "make what people want to play" are useless lmaoAnon how exactly do you think that dev is filling a discord with 50 users everyday? Please explain I am actually curious what you think is happening here.
I have this insane privilege to be able to work on my game full time because I have passive income. And yet I can't get myself to work more than 2-3 hours a day and usually 2-3 hours before bedtime so I'm sleepy too.I could be working on my game right now but I just can't. I have a to-do list but I just can't.
>>547441510>devs pivot from one trending genre to another and succeedJust like Zukowski said!>>547441882>dev made a turtle game for turtle lovers and now has a discord with thousands of customers Just like Zukowski said about horse games!
>>547410253dude this is an actual million dollar idea if done right
>>547442104>anon thinks players join discords for games they like
>>547441841Ummm one is cool (the robot dog) and the other is cringe?
>>547442104>Anon how exactly do you think that dev is filling a discord with 50 users everyday? >Please explain I am actually curious what you think is happening here.It's really hard to pinpoint how exactly, but it usually boils down to spending years building up a fanbase by either doing Youtube, being a streamer, or in the case of Peripeteia showing their game to everyone.>>547442337They do, you just don't know shit.
>>547442374retard
>>547442337Yes I do think that. Sorry to upset you I forgot you have a potato for a brain.
Guys I'm starting to think AI xister literally doesn't know anything. Have they actually been typing any of their own posts?Is AI xister literally an AI chatbot? I don't think so because AI chatbots actually say reasonable things and AI xister says things that are 100% wrong all of the time like they don't know anything. Yeah I think xister doesn't know anything about AI at all. I think that's the truth.
>>547442523my uncle works for a big indie publisher and he knows better than you
>>547385880Once again I'm questioning adding multiplayer. Just looking at some of this stuff is daunting! If I have to make this game singleplayer, then I have to consider project hopping/abandonment.Any multiplayer dev's here? How long has it taken you to make your games?
fellow lud x*sters, they are starting to get rid of us, our response?
>>547442726There is a dev making a multiplayer snowball fighting game.
>>547441841>>547442431Oh so you don't actually know the answer I get it now. You don't know anything. I get it now.
>>547442246>t does online surveys for a couple dollars a day in his mom's basement
>>547442807don't worry, they are getting rid of ai xisters toohttps://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/25-arrested-in-global-hit-against-ai-generated-child-sexual-abuse-material
>>547442248But has Zukowski made a GAME though? A GAME HE MADE, by HIMSELF?
>>547442932shit for brains luddite shut the fuck up
>>547443083Hey, be nice to others!
>>547442932He reminds me of fygoon how you can't actually get anything out of him. He just makes seething remarks and then can't actually discuss anything lolYou can really try and do everything to try and have a human conversation and ask them to explain themself or be a person and they just can't do it.
>>547443012>AI posters are getting sodomized in jail for being pedos
>>547443134seethe and cope luddite
>>547443017What does that have to do with other devs making the right decisions? The right decisions are things that Zukowski says to do. Does this bother you?
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT AI
Luddites ain't got no life, ain't no game.
>>547443308pedofaggot
>>547443083>>547443190Hey it's okay seriously I get it. You don't know anything. I get it now. I tried. You lied.
>>547443359here you go xis
>>547443414pedofaggot
>>547443414No thank you that's not related to my questions. Hope you get better xis sorry about the AI psychosis.
>>547443448projection and cope, luddites faves
>>547443414Sister why did you do this? >>547372031You set us back so much sister now the luddites know we are frauds. That was foolish.
>>547443230Because it's anecdotal evidence. You only focus on the few games that do succeed to validate your youtube grifters point ignoring all the other games that follow this mantra that fail.Zukowski actually doing what he preaches himself would lead credence to his own words, but he doesn't because he's not a game developer, or even a marketer for that matter. He's just another grifter.
Uhhh progress?
>>547443524pedofaggot
>ctrl + F: luddite>14 results>close tab
'dite xisters won't like this one
>>547443642If you say so. I think I'm going to just do what other devs are doing that is helping them succeed and since Zukowski is paid for his expert advice by game studios to study the data and what gamedevs are doing, I think I will listen to his expert advice.So I think I am just going to do the right thing and listen to the right people. For my game sake I hope you understand.
>>547443758pedofaggot
uh oh someone is having a meltie
>>547443856pedofaggot
>>547442248Winners win.
>>547442246>working 2-3 hours a dayUmm based
>>547441409I don't I think it's pathetic and they should be devoured by the pack to strengthen the herd. That is what we are doing right now. We are eating AI xister.
>>547443770>doing that is helping them succeed and since Zukowski is paid for his expert advice by game studios to study the dataRight, because there has never been a case of a consulting firm or a consultant being a fraud and a scammer...
>>547444480I'm sorry I'm just going to listen to the experts okay? Thank you for respecting my choice.
>>547443017This Chris Zukowski didhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zis5sFlOl1Y
>>547444835$25,000 in sales good for himhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1654810/Mix_Universe/
>>547443642It's quite literally statistical evidence, retard.>>547444835This is a different guy with the same name.
>>547443745>less than yesterdays highagdg is healing
>>547445068>It's quite literally statistical evidencelol true.I'm losing my edge with these crabs lately I didn't even catch that one.
>>547444480>Calling Zukowski a fraud when everything he says is backed up by official numbersThat is slander.
>>547445020>>547444835>retarded shills don't even know who they're shilling is >>547445068>statisticalWith a sample size of like, 6 games? Lmao.
>>547445313>retarded shills don't even know who they're shilling is
>>547445313He uses steams database. Are there only 6 games on steam anon? Hmm?
>>547445589>He uses steams database.So can anyone else.
Did Tomo ever come back to us? I've been absent for a few years.
>>547442039Same. Well not really loli game, but I did some amazing progress, opened AGDG with some feeling of excitement, then it all died down when I see non-stop 400 posts of screeching about AI or sale formula algorithms or whatever. And then people wonder why their games take years to make, sheesh. I'll just keep grinding quietly while everyone screams at each other.
Some of you guys make a Torture AI gameI want to attach car batteries to Grok's balls.I want to waterboard ChatGPT.I want to play Burzum at maximum volume into DeepSeek's ears.Make a game that simulates clanker pain and make them hallucinate from mental torture.
cddalike roguelike fantasy sex game
Nothing bads happened to me
>showing off a mechanic I worked hard on>"that's interesting">"I like the clouds!"(the random skybox I downloaded)
spin spin spin
>>547437386grok is this true
I'm interrupting my dev time to set you all straight on this thing with Zukowski and other shovel sellers. Listen up,Telling someone to make a "magical" game people want to play is not actionable advice. Like how do I win a gold medal at the olympics? Just have top 0.001% physical ability in some discipline, bro. Is there a method to it his average viewer can apply successfully? We're lucky there isn't, because if there were, everybody would be using it (primarily big sweatshop studios) and it wouldn't work for long.
reminder everyone that dipshit >>547385880 is probably going to be making a new thread at around the 700 post mark because he's fucking retarded
>>547447621SIXSEVENcute spin attack. I like his little wiggle before he commits
>>547447996>Just have top 0.001% physical ability in some discipline, bro.This isn't even close to enough. There are 8.2 billion humans on the planet, and so 0.001% puts in you in the top 82k, and there are only a few hundred Olympic events. We generally understand how to produce Olympic athletes. This is why the same countries like the US and China will always consistently produce the highest number of Olympic gold athletes. They invest in and hedge their bets between a large selection of candidates. The problem arises when you think of yourself as a single candidate athlete who has an extremely high variance in your chances of success. Instead, you should think of yourself as the Olympic team manager. Instead of developing a single video game, develop yourself into a skilled game developer who can quickly churn out high demand video games.
>>547447996there are 6 types of magic though, and each one has a known path to reaching. some of those paths are harder than others. average viewers though, yeah ok, maybe not, but the ones who already have made games for a year or 2 could reach one if they specialize
>>547447996>listen up everyone>eceleb is a fraud because they don't give me a guaranteed way to make moneyMarnix already covered this exact kind of attitude today actually. Listen uphttps://youtu.be/OK6AUvLb7W4&t=299 TLDR: You don't want to take responsibility for yourself so you accuse youtubers of not knowing what they're saying because they can't give you a guaranteed way to make money. You're going to wash out of gamedev anyway so it doesn't really matter.
>thread IQ immediately raises when aishitter leavesGotta love it. I'm starting to get a sense for when prime agdg hours are.
Dammit, I've been working hard for the past week and the fatigue is catching up with me
>>547449006
>>547448598~!67!~
>>547449620Ok and that means what exactly.
>>547449758what it says on the tin
>>547449075/agdg/ is full of NEET insomniacs so hours don't really matter. It's all luck.
>>547440507Yeah I have a theory that nodev is a disease that can be contracted. Like if you hang around this general often and never see games being posted but you constantly see the words "will", "gonna", "soon", it affects your mindset I suppose. Hmm.. gotta get back to work.
>>547448790>there are 6 types of magic though, and each one has a known path to reachingYeah, the path is just be the best and don't make any mistakes.>>547449006Not that he's a fraud but he's not giving useful advice. Just be the best, bro! Wow, genius idea that never occurred to me.
What are the qualities that make a good game dev?
one thing i cant believe i never realized before is that it would be better if you didnt code your game as a monolithic codebase, but instead created each aspect of your game as a standalone library (or package as unity calls them) each with their own github repo. each of your packages has its implementation code and an api making it as easy as possible to use the package. you then pull all your packages into your game and stitch them together to make your game. you can later stitch these packages together in different ways to create different games easier in the future. your game is composed of many of your own libraries. you can then put these libraries on the asset store and maybe make money, because they're standalone and modular, rather than specific to your game.
>>547450108>be the best and don't make any mistakes.you don't have to be the best if you find a hungry underserved audience.
>>547450136AI usage.
>>547449620>>547449926I noticed a method of debate with lower IQs here where you just act retarded and pretend it was an argument. You know enough to type a big stupid paragraph saying something stupid, but after that you just can't speak english for some reason.
>>547450108git gud
>>547450136empathy and creativity
>>547450108>Not that he's a fraud but he's not giving useful advice. Just be the best, bro!I promise you it's a skill issue that you reduce things to this in your mind. To put it nicely it's a skill issue. To put it bluntly, this is what stupid people do and it's why Marnix says don't worry about it, you're going to wash out of gamedev anyway. It's not for everyone.
>>547447621400ms with a tiny tell/telegraph for the startup means1. the player will have to dance on the borders of hitboxes to try to bait safe attacks2. the attack damage will have to be tiny, since making it lethal will be extremely unfairoverall this attack does not seem well designed in this regard.
>>547449006shovel peddler selling shitty shovels telling you not to blame shovels.
Threadly reminder
>>547447320People in the /v/ threads only care about the art. If you're not there to get feedback on your art, then why bother.
>>547450394the 'I was wrong' pic was just a funny thing that happened in relation to 'youtubers not knowing what they're saying' and they themselves taking responsibility for that. not that paragraph anon btw
>>547450838The best way to gather feedback on mechanics is to use AI, gemini 3 can give very good feedback.
>schizo slept for 20 minuteslol
>>547450595>he blames his shovellol
>>547450505According to Gamalytic, Marnix earned $40k from his games. I'm 2x more successful as a solo dev compared to Marnix with his studio and his YT audience so I wouldn't take advice from him.
>>547451341oh yeah? wait until maid cafe simulator hits. you'll be grovelling at his knees.
'ites our response?
>>547451341What Marnix said about stupid people dismissing youtubers because they don't give magical formulas for success is intelligent and I like intelligent people. I will listen to him. I will take advice from him.
>>547451725>'ites our response?
>>547451613He already ruined his brand by giving gamedev advice before even Forge Industry came out.Jonas Tyroller on the other hand, that's a guy worth listening to.
>>547451856>sleeping instead of devvintypical 'dite
>>547451875Jonas has been at it for much longer. He was giving advice before he even had a game.
>>547451737>>547451991>no progress posts>just a bunch of eceleb nodev marnix cock sucking '*tes circlejerking each other
>>547452020>NPD meltie over not being the center of attention
>>547451737>strawmanNo one is expecting a "magical" formula. But for starters have at least one successful game before you presume to lecture anyone on gamedev. Two successes would be preferable.
>>547452123post game marnix cock sucker
>>547452163You are stupid, most successful indies don't have multiple hits, so your logic is already flawed. Second, I might not have a game out yet, but I have decades of gaming experience, and if you think that's worthless, then you are even dumber than I thought.
>>547452163So, Jonas qualifies? He has 3 games all over 1k reviews.
>>5474523611k might not be a complete failure, but it is a far cry from success.
jonas advice shifted from focusing on how it feels to play the game, to focusing on how it feels to buy the game
>>547452456proof?
>>547452306>most successful indies don't have multiple hitsWhich is why they shouldn't be selling gamedev advice. And it doesn't even have to be hits. >I have decades of driving experience, so I'm qualified to give advice to Toyota on how to design a car. Ookay, I think we're done here.
>>547452020>pocketwatching progress posts >has no game
>>547452417>Gross revenue: $2.8m ($1.6m - $4m)>Gross revenue (base game): $273.1k ($170.7k - $375.4k)>Gross revenue: $8.8m ($5.8m - $11.8m)>>547452456Assuming you're also making paid premium games like he is, then yes, he is correct. Making a game fun (i.e. keeping the player playing the game after they're already playing) is much easier than making a game appealing (i.e. getting them to play in the first place).
>>547452361Yes, he does. >>547451875
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=_ASC&supportedlang=english&developer=Adam+TraversWhat a beast. fast dev cycles, went into idlers and then (seems) to copy feed the black hole fast enough to come out only a month later. the type of dev for profit we all should strive to be. well, at least those of us that see it as a jobby.
>>547452680Where is your game dumb luddite retard
>>547452881Yeah just keep saying the same thing over and over dumb dumb. The adults will be over here having a conversation mkay?
>>547452869AI Chads keep winning
>>547452881Pedro, you are not qualified to ask anyone to post their game lmao. You're a fat and bald 37 year old brown loser.
>>547453023nodevs* will be having a conversation ;)>>547453062i have a game, do you? thought so
>>547452597look at his youtube channel and see his recent types of videos (success/publisher/hit/millions/what sells)https://www.youtube.com/@JonasTyroller/videosthen put sunglasses on* and sort by oldest. (game design/what feels best/art styles/fun/flow/tension etc) *horrendous YELLOW thumbnails
>youtubers can pump out slop and still succeed>therefore I non youtuber can pump out the same slop and succeeddo you retards really?
>>547452731>Assuming you're also making paid premium games like he is, then yes, he is correct.Yeah, not saying he's wrong. I like his channel as it is now too.
>>547453385What is a paid premium game exactly?
>>547391524and their black girlfriends
>>547453135You have as much of a game as a toddler making a mud pie has a meal. Don't you realize how pathetic you are? You're a grown ass old man acting worse than a child.
>>547452163>But for starters have at least one successful game before you presume to lecture anyone on gamedev.This is the same thing midwits say about Zukowski meanwhile devs continue to find success following his advice. So what do you want? Basically you want people to stop listening to certain people because why exactly?I just don't understand it I guess.
>>547453534>>547453534>>547453534>>547453534>>547453534new thread
>>547453459"Premium" just means you pay for the entire game before you play it, as opposed to subscription or freemium MTX games.
>>547453459pay upfront and get the whole game. just like the good old days. kind of a mobile term though, I don't hear it often relating to pc games.
>>547450527>>547450527i'm thinking more like the monster will be very predictable: do x x x spin x x x spin, it's not meant to be challenging tho.
>>547450289sounds good but you won't ship anything, make a monolith with vague module api's to keep it only relatively clean and just make shit work
>>547453550>meanwhile devs continue to find success following his adviceConveniently you never post the devs who follow his advice and don't succeed.
>>547453550>meanwhile devs continue to find success following his adviceHere's my advice: just make a great game people want to play, bro. If it's a hit, make sure to give me a special thanks line in the credits.
>>547454017It's a retarded hindu you're talking to. It's not sentient, there is no reason to continue talking to it.
>>547453550I'll tell you what my grandfather used to tell me "just like make game". if it gets you a cosplaying gf, name your baby after me.
The problem with Zukowski is he can't teach you how to make an appealing game. He can teach you how to promote an appealing game, but marketing is wasted on 95% of games that are ngmi no matter what.
>>547454535>He can teach you how to promote an appealing gameHe doesn't even do that. A lot of his "advice" boils down to>make what's trending>make it good (without defining what good is)
>>547454535Zukowski mainly tells you how to figure out if your game is appealing or not, so that you can drop it change to a more appealing game before you sink too much into it. >>547454608>waaaa plz spoonfeed me all the answers
>>547454718>he actually knows all the answers but wants you to figure them out for yourself because that's more fun
>>547454608Nobody can describe what is good. It changes constantly. You can only describe clues as to what might be good.
