The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>547485205>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xngtneuz>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerYuki - Striker - Order | Until December 3rd>Current Events/Upcoming ContentGalactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026Guardian of the Ark - Policy Event | Until December 3rdGalactic Disaster Dispatch - Login Event | Until November 25th>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update: https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239>Galactic Disaster Content Improvement Update Noticehttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11261625>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.https://rentry.co/cznsavedatahttps://czn-calc.vercel.app/https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculatorhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
we hating mihoyo and the guy who hates mihoyo with this one /czn/ bros
Nia sexo
Yuki's tits aren't big enough
>>547528432wdym, you can still run chaos for 13 hours a day for perfect Mei lin decks, sounds like content to me
>1 month later>still no hypno porn of any of the girls
>>547528119Is the Korean language text in those files too, or is that kept elsewhere? I'd be interested to know if it's different in Korean or not. If those files only stores the English language portions, then it seems reasonable to believe that the localizers, being the incompetent shits they are, simply didn't know which file to paste their "translation" to so they put it in all of them. Which means the original story revisions might still exist in Korean... maybe.
We need more Yuki porn
>>547528338Is Selena wife material?
>apparently Mei lin's spirit of thr aromata can stack up to 2 turns if you have 2 of themwtf is this shit bros
>>547528679All story db files contain all of the supported languages. I extracted only the english text from it.
>>547528615Pfft, I'm running chaos for 13 hours a day just trying to get both the Move and Kick epiphanies on the same deck.
Where are the Black Friday Deals gros?
>>547527485That's kinda crazy. Doesn't that mean the Starseed writer literally just got in when the CBT started at September.
>every combatants in the standard banner play important role in the prologue>they scrap itThe one that pissed me off they scrap Kayron and Protos bromance
>>547528742You mean the duration extends if you use it twice in one turn?
>>547527802>>547528119The game got heavily criticized before even release. Could it be that they reused one of the many rewrites in the main story?.
>>547529024yeah, those kinda cards usually don't do that
We love and support all CZN content creators here. All of them, except one.
>>547529038As far as I can tell there's only two versions of the story in the data.pack right now. It is very possible that the rest of the rewrites did not even get to QA (or whatever semblance of quality assurance team they have in that company), so there's no reason to put them in the data.pack at all.
>>547529091Wouldn't that mean if you had enough copies of it you could keep the buff going indefinitely and have literal infinite growth? That doesn't sound right.
>>547529020I pray they bring it back in the rewrite but they probably wont
Back to the choas mines to grind a deck
>>547527628BA characters have extremely simplistic designs and rely mostly on their halos to stand out.Kancolle also did the same but with guns instead of halos.
>>547529321yeah, it's unusual but it's real, look at this shit
https://files.catbox.moe/wnz6le.pngreminder this is what happens to characters that aren't loved enough.
Torture Owen to DeathGive Kayron knighthood status and his own yacht
This is gonna take a while...
>>547529689NTA but it's interesting that it extends the duration instead of the buff strength (20 -> 40)
>>547529689bwo that's an op combo right there nia can cycle a deck each turn
BATTOU
>>547529689Even as someone that likes Mei Lin I have to say that should probably be hotfixed. I know most content currently is turn-limited, but it's probably not a good idea to also let her have infinite damage growth during marathon-length fights if we ever get them.
>>547528338idk the purpose of this combatant
>>547529689>the more and more we find out about mei lin, the more broken she isif you don't have her bis team, your account is bricked
>>547530051you want them to kill the game?
>>547529020So that's why I feel weird, 0 presence of standard banner characters in the main story.This extreme level retardation feels like an actual sabotage.
>>547529689>13 MORE HOURS IN THE MEI LIN MINES
>>547530238I want them to release a fix so that her infinitely scaling buff doesn't last infinite turns so that it doesn't kill the game. And if they happen to give Mei Lin owners 50 rolls in compensation I wouldn't decline.
Im actually gonna invest in Hugo fuck it man
>>5475304892/3 female is still straight, just don't go for the tier 0 luke hugo build
>>547530176Yeah but assembling a Mei Lin deck is like 10 layers of RNG to get every god piece. If you tortured yourself for that and won the lottery then you deserve it.
why the fuck am i ending half my shit without epiphany's and not getting all my cards until the floor 2 boss in the event chaos?entire run without last ditch assault or deluge.
>>547529689Are you sure the stacks from the previous turn carry over?
rng finally decided to smile at me
Just in time for the meta to shift...
>>547530727>No violence cardTime to go back to the mines
>>547530727damn thats good well time to try it again and aim for 4 unities next time.
This game sucks.
No, actually. . .it swallows
>>547530289Even Amir have screen time, isn't it weird that we get Amir as prereg reward but she didn't shown up in the prologue?
>>547529776I do this to Yuki every night
>>547530051And how will they deal with the outrage from players?
>>547530972Just like Haru
>>547531135With compensation rolls of course.
>>547530051Bitch they have a lot of ways to deal with Mei Lin without touching her kit and if you think otherwise you're fucking dumb
Is this game going to EOS soon? I have had a terrible track record with Gachas.Draglia LostTribe 9Black Beacon
>>547531346Yep it's over by 2030 considering how long epic shit can last
>another day>another day without any standard pulls
>>547531346Start playing and see for yourself. I used to have this skill for actual jobs I got into = redundancy for everyone within the next year but it eventually went away.
>>547531318Come back when you grow some hair on your balls kid. Then maybe you will be able to handle forming a coherent argument.
>>547531634The dormitory is the only reason GF2 is alive right now. Everything is so unremarkable right now especially meta balance which has turned me off gachas I have whaled in.
Say something nice about her
>>547531801>coherent argumentHow ironic coming from the likes of you
>>547532045adagio bot
>>547530051why would they hotfix it? its a multi turn combo that basically just amounts to +1 morale for every card used while buff is active.we literally have monster cards that give +2 morale for free and near infinites with theressa.not to mention most decks prefer the move 2 basic card to be duped and to maintain this buff you'd need a close to min-maxed nia+veronica.
bros im feeling it. the urge to affect my daily life!!
>people making figures of Mei Linshe is obliviously isnt not getting hotfixedthis is HER game
I have Cassius e2. He is apparently very strong buffer with his last potential node ? Can any CassiGODs here teach me the fundamental on how to build this giga 4 stars ?
>>547532045sexy bitch that starts craving cock when she gets a meltdown
>>547531634>Dragalia Lost>Revived WitchHaha...Yeah, same...
>>547531346lol
Are we just forgetting Luke and Rin can also 1-turn kill the Crab? Why is it only Mei Lin getting the spotlight? Is this actually "China hate" and that's why you people want her nerfed?
>>547532045worth an 80% refund on my dumb decision to lvl 60 her
do you roll for tier12 or tier13?
>>547531346>I have had a terrible track record with Gachas.>Dragalia LostBro, Dragalia Lost was around for 4 years. You retards don't seriously play the same game every single day for 4 years and then get sad when it's gone, do you? I'm usually out at around the 1 year mark. I don't ever want to be forced to play the same game every single day for 4 year or more years.
>>547532837>you people want her nerfedwho?
>>547532837I kneel
>>547532234Morale can't be stacked infinitely from what I've seen. Effects that provide permanent morale are tied to exhaust or upgrade cards that cannot be reused. Other cards provide it for only one turn and then expire. If Mei Lin's buff continues to extend and stack without resetting, it would be unique as far as I'm aware. That said, I don't have every single character in the game, so if another character can do that, feel free to enlighten me and I'll withdraw my criticism. I assume you meant Tressa, but again I'm talking about potential long-form combat that isn't solved in one or two massive burst turns. In other words, fights that might exist in the future and do not exist now, which is why I said "if we ever get them". Currently, extending Spirit of Aromata is worthless compared to rushing shit down. But it could be an issue if we had fights that forced things to drag out 20+ turns. A marathon instead of a sprint. Changing this now doesn't impact her performance in any existing content, but would prevent her from getting the equivalent of 100+ morale stacks in content that might exist in the future.
>>547532502Not even a cassius conoisseur but its very simple. Get the last potential because its free +1 morale every time you clear a quest. The short and simple is>Stack healing tressa upgrade>Get quest epiphany that makes it initiation>Any healer>Pick triple 0 questAnd from there its easy mode. You heal -> get 3+ daggers -> quest procs -> do more shit
>>547532837>Are we just forgetting Luke and Rin can also 1-turn kill the Crab? Why is it only Mei Lin getting the spotlight?Gachadrones just have no brain whatsoever, and it's currently in vogue to hate on Mei Lin and Veronica, most likely because they don't have one or both of them. Tressa/Cassius is still bonkers and braindead and so is Beryl Retain. Luke and RIn are also both very good. It's just not meta to hate them yet.
>>547532837>lukecant do shit without mika>rine2 or fug off>mei lineasy wins with an easily acquired deckbuild at e0
It doesn't even stack, you guys are retarded.
Should I build Nia or Cassius? Cassius is cool but Nia is really cute and the game is lacking in cute.
>>547533239>with an easily acquired deckbuilddamn that's some good bait
Who should I get?
>>547533376Veronica. Pretty much everybody benefits from having her on their team.
>>547533376You should have rerolled. Veronica is probably the answer.
>>547532837the people want a niche build that no one ever uses that mandates having at least 2 mulligan units to maintain it nerfed that no one's ever used because its a meme.>>547533078Its that armored monster card anyone in the game can get it granted it takes 80 points but it doesn't force you to mulligan your deck to maintain it.have you tried using that meme build? it literally doesn't work in chaos, its an actual joke build over just running multiple unities. if you wanted ramp up cards there's a neutral that whenever gets drawn deals up to 5 hits per turn.
>>547533364He's not wrong. It's still rough, but compared to other deckbuilds that are more expensive and demand specific divines, etc, Mei Lin's deck is not that bad to acquire since it functions even with less perfect versions.
Why is Mei Lin’s kung fu school called Eromata?
>>547533026Just look at a few posts above you...?>>547533239>mei lin>easy wins with an easily acquired deckbuild at e0How to imply you don't have Mei Lin without explicitly saying it.
>>547533376you're looking at him
>>547533558She is trained in the art of love making.
>>547533558She has lewd thighs (股)
I think the sword is cooler than the fist
>>547533836learning the stroke patterns for chinese thighs
>>547533364>>547533567>bro, making three card copies is sooooo hardstart playing trauma mode and start deleting more shit, retards
>>547533239Mei Lin is tier 5 without Veronica tho
>>547533524>Its that armored monster card anyone in the game can get it granted it takes 80 points but it doesn't force you to mulligan your deck to maintain it.Hadn't seen that one, before. Nice to know. Granted it only provides 1 morale per turn compared to the 3+ that Mei Lin could provide, but it would also apply to the entire team. I'll rescind my complaint.>it literally doesn't work in chaos, its an actual joke build over just running multiple unitiesYeah I did say as much. You would never actually run multiple Spirit of Aromata unless you were building for content that currently does not exist and cannot be deleted in big burst turns. Basically like a gauntlet of waves that get harder and harder until you tap out. A single big burst would just put you in the next fight so it wouldn't be as valuable as an enduring damage increase that ramps forever.
>>547533916Too high effort for the average retard here
if i have veronica and nia built for yuki should i go ahead and build the rin i just pulled as well? i'm kinda bored of playing yuki so want something different to swap between.
>>547533916but I don't have the perfect divine copies or the manifest ego that lets you turn one things...
Weapon types that we need more of in the game?
>>547534075they've giving us a huge tax refund so why not, anon
>>547534239GLAIVE
>1 hour run ruined because the wrong epiph dropped on interior
>>547528525Finally a real take
If your deck can't kill Crab 9/9 in one turn then they are TRASH and you should DELETE it and CLOSE your account while you're at it.
I didn't check the mission tab for almost 2 weeks and I have like 20+ bonus stages to do from the arks policies...
>>547534170The neat part about Rin is since the Move 2 drags from anywhere it matters the most for the divine epiphany to be in her sword attck instead that will get recycledMain problem is getting tonclone the Move 2
>>547534006the veronica crutch is real, sure. rin literally doesn't work at e0 and luke is a worse renoa without someone, say, mika drawing like a meth'd out humanities major
>>547533992Post your Mei Lin deck or you're full of shit
You heard the man. >>547534035 Anyone that can't 1-turn 9/9 Crab with Rin is officially a lazy retard. So post your videos now to prove your IQ. I'm sure he'll be kind enough to oblige by posting his first. Not me though, I'm a lazy retard.
>>547534239Kusarigama, or the meteor dart/meteor hammer, or just chain weapons in general.
>>547534239dragonslayers
>>547534515That just means he needs any draw support, something that pretty much any carry needs honestly.
>>547534019its lower but it's infinitely easier to maintain. i think the mei build works way better in theory then in reality, besides needing to draw it every turn which mandates nia and veronica, you'd be gimping your deck of unity copies and 1 card draw each turn. plus i don't think that comp would really be practical in a infinite wave hoard mode scenario since your only reliable aoe would be a catapult veronica and you have very little sustain.
Yuki clear is the only honest one
Post a Luke guide
>>547534260cause i have no credits right now... i'm poor man
>>547534992Fair points. You would have to rely on one-shotting enemies with punches every turn to keep it going, and I doubt Spirit of Aromata would scale fast enough for that since modes like that tend to employ exponential stat inflation.
>just get the perfect epiphanies, bro
>>547532837Luke left him behind...
Does the 50% stack?
>>547535318Draw power too strong...
>>547535318>everyone was saying you needed Lucas as Luke’s best support>he was holding him back
>>547535115>get the boolet spam cards>get the draw epiphanies>get the 9-cost 4x single hit forbidden card>get confiscation with ap epiphany>delete the restbring draw guy or mika with gear bags
Soon she will be complete...
>>547535748How much have you spent?
>>547535748brickGOD
>>547534239Rocket HammerPilebunkerLASER BUREIDO
>>547535834Bout 2 stacks
do only gray policies give battle missions?
*sighs*
>>547535318No, it was the Devs who left him behind
I almost clicked without reading when I saw the 1APThanks for nothing
>>547535748Based. How many 50/50’s did you lose?
Into the pile
>>547536197jej
>>547536246Another 10% reduction to Chizuru’s numbers…
>>547536246when was this sent?I just logged off and dont feel like relaunching to check
>Dimensional tunnel>100 credits>-3 stress>Escape and restart
>>547536381right now
>>547536381Literally moments ago
>>547536398
>>547536398lol
I don't think I like Kayon. He feels like shit to use
>>547536398you rike? beri beri good replayability sir
Which partner is the best for Tressa?
>>547536562knowing about the battle pass partner that unlocks half his gameplay and reading his manifest ego dupes does make him sad
>>547535213hmm actually now that i think about it you could just hypothetically build mei normally then just use this to duplicate her aromatic, would still need to use nia to mill the deck to redraw a copy each turn but the dupes don't need to be in mei's deck. oh man think of the potential!.ugh now i wanna go farm a nia deck for that strat to try it out.at t10 in nightmare mode you could get a 2 removal(after 1 was converted) the monster card and 3 copies of nia curiosity.
Selena sucks
>>547536680Just stick with the 3 or 4 star for her.
>>547536562He's pretty clunky without his partner, but can be decently worked around. Sucks that his oath doesn't automatically come with outbreak of war.
11 completo
>>547536246I don't accept your apology and i demand more now gimme more!!!
>>547536857Yeah, in gameplay.
>>547536878Renoa dog walked by whom?
>>547536818I have a data with that. it's nice
>>547537064Mika Rei
>>547537064tressa and vero
>>547537064She can handle her own I'll have you know>>547537195I like her with Rei and Nia desu
>>547537113>d5
>>547537278>he didn't abuse it
>547537113>cheat data
I E6'd Yuki and got a decent build on her for once and she's actually pretty fun. sry chizuru, your tits are hot but yukis is wearing a thong
>>547533916how high do the stats have to be to deal this type of damage? my rin doesn't do shit compared to this
>>547537113nice and shiny
>>547536246just remember that the more free pulls we get, the worse the next characters will be
>>547537523Doesn't matter, the monster girls aren't until next season.
>>547537443That's e6
>>547536818>monster card and 3 copies of nia curiositylmao good luck grinding it
>>547536818You can get a +2 ego epiphany on that. Rocks so much
>>547537931oh.
>>547537994don't underestimate the autism of a former runescape player.
>>547538029thats cool is there a list of epiphanies for purple neutral cards?
>>547538176I would wait for an event with spirit kefox elite but then again that might never happen exactly because of how strong the card is
Very cool. Game is held together with string.
most kyrken's effects are dogshit
>>547538686What am I supposed to see here
>>547538316Not as far as I know. They seem to be generic though. Like +1 morale or resolve. Only seen the ego points one once
>>547538837Just take the free money or free remove dude.
Nice.
Why doesn't my mail icon get the notification mark anymore? I always have to click into it to see if there's anything new
>>54753911267>>>>>>>>>69
why some people have 3 options, and even better options like delete 2 cards?
quick question I dont need an explanation if you dont want to go indepth about it. I need a second party, do I go with tressa/hugo or do I use my selector on mei lin since everyone posts about her? If not are there any high end dps worth checking out?
>>547539289one of the zero system upgrades is adding a third option
>>547539296Just do Tressa, she's very budget friendly. You can even skip Hugo and use 4*s only, it can be even better.
I want to roll already fuck can yuki fat tits banner end already?
>>547539289gotta upgrade the zero system bud
They really need to rebalance some of these epiphanies. Like I only want 1 Tressa epiphany for shadow reload but getting it is a pain.
>>547539940If Yuki gets better epiphanies maybe we can cry about everyone else too.
>>547531526got 2 pulls from level 52 rewards, I'm swimming in it
>Stop playing Mei Lin>Go to tressa>Get a great deck for her on literally the first run>Even the equips are greatI see now, I understand everything.
>>547539940They should just make it cost some sand to reroll an epiphany.
>>547535986I love my Yuki!
>>547540683<40% crit rate'fraid to say its bricked
>>547540672Doing one clear per day where I use all my sand to reroll then waiting for the daily reset.
>>547539289last upgrade in the zero system gives you the third option.
>>547535748Did you forget the two egos in the exchange shop?
>>547540790I think it's a good solution. Prevents normal people from burning out, while the autists are still free to grind.
>get good equips on yuki>divine epiphanie on rat mutant>copy of her best two aoes>still lose on last boss but get to keep her build (mika and khalipe got mindbroke)>finally 3* stage 9 of dimensional>get yuki e6 from gift mail 10 roll>fuck shit outta my wifeThis was a gud saturday evening, bros. Hope the same for you all, cheers.
>>547540979I think they'll likely add something like that as a QoL down the line, like 2-3 years in so they can cash on the "DEVS LISTENED" publicity.
can I remove forgotten cards after picking it?
>>547541330Yes, but you still pay the memory cost.
How to guarantee Mei Lin getting copies after the boss
>>547540683You need better memory fragments. She needs over 50% crit chance and probably 4 + 2 set crit damage.
>>547541394fuck. I put it on Mika because I was focusing on another character but the game decided to feed her good divine epiphanies and dupes.the forgotten card is bricking the faint memory
no one cares minmaxxing autist
>>547541431post the results later
>>5475414311. Remove as many non unique non basic cards as possible.2. Pray to whatever god you believe in.
She has surprisingly big boobs
Can you use the protos turn rewind when you get an epiphany to reroll them?
>>547542129its predetermined
>>547541632This run was doomed because I didn't get the right spire (and I even had room to remove it too lol), but I finished it anw on principle. If the kick had been correct, it'd have taken the third slot.>>547542129No
>>547537443Stack your morale.A lot of Rin's attacks are multihits so she benfits from morale a lot.
useless fuck
>>547542514
Why are you guys rushing to get a perfect build? We're not even in the middle of the season yet.
>>547542514Is this actually from the "please show me your panties while being disgusted" guy fanbox or just AI slop with his art?
>>547542778gonna guess autism
>>547542778if I stop playing CZN, I'll do better at CZN
>>547542842Most definitely slop
>547542778low effortbut retards will still take the bait
Whats a good Beryl team for Lab0 if I want to grind her Retain deck?
>>547543069mika vero work just fine
>>547543134literally an exploit abuse hope they delete your account
can a man get a czn rabi that isn't slop
>>547543069yuki rei but unironically
>>547543182manipulating cards with uniques to not get fucked by RNG is not an exploit, its not being retarded
Veronica reslly carrys hard holy fuck. My Yuki feels good now
>>547543182What's wrong with you
I got Kayron E2, but I already have 8 characters at lvl 50.Hit account lvl 50 probably Tuesday or Wednesday... should I do it? Is he really that strong at E2?
>>547543365he's fine at e0. If you're a brainlet you need e3 and/or bria. Just invest in your main damage dealer's potentials and get them to 60 instead. Kayronchuds are walled by crab 9 anyway
>>547543358>>547543069so cute....
>>547543365E3 is the major powerspike for him because he can exhaust futilities from the hand and the graveyard. You could wait for that if you want, he might feel a bit clunky without his E3 or Bria.
>>547543583one kayronfag managed to do it but he was too much of a pussy gatekeeper to post deck
>>547543365He is the real MC
>>547543802nyoh my goodness...
>>547543617
>>547543365Dear god, My account is a male seeded account. Now I got my E2 Luke, both are lvl 1.
>>547541791>surprisingthey are very in your face
>>547543992God I wish that were me
>>547543965Source/artist please...
>>547543358beryl is very cute but her umu triggers my fate ptsd
>Couldn't get any OF5 copys, AGAINbros... how do you deal with the fatigue
>>547543992Blessed account that can get mei lin at 300 with e2 kayron and GODLuke
>another 10 rollsChizuru is free again..
>>547544075Anon I....
Remember that Chizuru is still a victim of the free gibs that 30% cheaper nigger dicks in Dawei was forced to provide because he fucked up the game so much. She's probably going to be just as good as Yuki is.
the two stickers of Chizuru and Sereniel are supposed to unlock next phase but we got them nowweird
Am I being dumb or is it impossible to turn off the rare species zero upgrade without also turning off every other toggleable upgrade? The switch seems to do them all?
>he’s back
>>547541791That’s cause you barely get to see them. She covers it up with her gun 90% of the time.
So I just unlocked the event and did a run of its chaos at level 40. How many "pure white fragments" would I get for spamming the level 30 version? 1000 each?
>>547541791
>Get REALLY good cards and blessings>But got the wrong epiphany on the one key card that makes the entire build tick so it's uselessYeah let me spend 5 hourglasses on epi reroll, this game is fucking gay.
I want to touch Selena's boobs...
>>547544854It shows you the available loot, including the estimated fragment count, when you are on the character select page.
Just got Veronica. Can anyone tell me which epiphanies I should be looking out for? Or are most of them good on her?
>>547545186Hmm yeah I guess the 1300 I got was a first bonus. Not much point in doing runs for a couple hundred frags.
You know, for an eldritch horror mindbreak game, this game doesn't have as much Guro art as I expected
>forced to give out free jims>release purposefully bricked yuki and chizuru>give back 5% of their intended power months later>/czn/tards will celebrate thisyou retards are the same "people" who bought the horse armor
>>547545446For reference: Difficulty 8, the one most people do while grinding for save data, says 288 per run.
>>547545101get in line
Another 10 pulls to the stash.
>>547545572I mean the easy solution is to just actually look at the character kits and gameplay before pulling on them instead of pulling bricks and then crying.It's not even certain that Chizuru will be bad. The only reason that Tressa/Mei Lin are as strong as they are is because of a single epiphany out of all their cards and epiphanies. Has nothing to do with 99% of their kit.
its so dumb you can't disassemble leveled up gear for the blue upgrade mat material all it gives you is a bit more of the white 1-3+ one
They need to give us 1 epiphany selection at run start... Would make a lot more units viable for chaos farming
>>547545572>you retards are the same "people" who bought the horse armorI genuinely think that Gayshit has been worse for video games than horse armor
I thought Luke was bad..
I love Magna so much
>>547545943Everyone is good as long as I'm not playing them.
>>547545572>Be f2poor>Uses your brain and test out character in trial/watch review before you pull>Be whale/dophin>Doesn't care because you can afford to get every character in the game anywaySo you have to be an impulse rolling f2p retard to fall for this
>>547546042same
>>547545613Wait, what about "weekly progress?" I thought that was measured in fragments but maybe it's separate?
>>547545989I'm still trying to make a haru/orlea/magna team work by fishing AP incomeMein fuhrer would be proud of me
>>547545440Just pick anything that gives draw power
>>547545961>Luke crying about Yuki's buffsLuke bros why is he crying when he's top tier?
>>547546204Seems to be a different thing. Not sure how that's calculated because I always fill it up before I think to check it.
My Veronicalet account is struggling to clear chaos..
>>547546042Bro, fucking same. Every video I see of Veronica, she does 1500+ damage Ballisatas, but my Ballista if it's at 4 stacks and crits only hits for like 700 or 800.
>>547546265that luke is owned by an /e7g/ger
>>547546294Alright I'm gonna see if I can breeze through level 30 and fill it up.
>>547546378They probably have God teir memory fragments
>>547546491this is my cope, too
>>547546378they have really good memory fragments and or invested a lot of resources into their potentials and egosjust keep farming and playing (get lucky), and you'll do the same
>>547546491It also just depends on reload stacks.I hit for 2100-2500 on crits pretty often at full reload and this is my stats. I don't think my frags are particularly good. Also 3* partner instead of Marin.
>>547544046>>547544170I don't need their dupe, I don't play them at all, If I build Luke and Kayron I'm pretty sure my account will be bricked for at least 2 weeks because that will be 10 lvl 50 characters, I rather have Orlea, Khalipe or Veronica dupes...
I saw someone with 1150 attack on their veronicahow is that even possible
>>547546645E2 Luke is going to be required to be high up on the leaderboard.Unfortunately it will also require Mei Lin.
>>547546365be a good cutie
this game needs better epis for cards, too many retarded fillers
>>547546795this is an unhealthy amount of cutie
>>547543182Man this team FUCKSThe worst part is that I could have gotten the PERFECT Beryl team if I had gotten the upgrade version of opening found because I could have duped it, slapped violence on it and had a hilariously strong team. Too bad that all the epiphanies on this run have been dogshit but this card is hilarious and has saved my ass on several encounters.
>run yellow chaos >passion enemies everywhere>run water chaos>passion enemies everywhereWhy
>>547546858wrong. if you are a good cutie god rewards you
>>547546795Orlea... come home
>>547546958MEI LIN AND VERONICA THAT'S WHY
>>547546959>Reduced cost on combo cardGrim
>>547541210Then she cucks you at the end of the event with Asuna!
Chizuru status? WG said she is going to be a striker? Are you fucking serious 3 back to back striker?
>>547543313>My Yuki feels good nowYeah by "feels good" you mean feels like shit but carried by vero
>>547546834you just don't see the value of 20% shield at end of turn on your main dps
>>547547281I just want to blow my load on a support
>>547547281odd cause people here keep saying shes gonna be a vanguard
>>547532837hate that renoa can't do this because she's limited by hand size
>>547547281No basically she was a striker a long time ago in an old client (which had tons of placeholders stuff so not even the most trustworthy) but she was reworked to a vanguard with debuffs and status mechanics like Kayron's futility.
>>547547406she's going to be worse khalipe screencap this
>>547532837People always speculated Luke would work fine with high crit. Turns out he is, and then he's VERY good if you also have e2 and his 5* partner.Mei Lin still has a higher ceiling, but Luke + Mei Lin teams is probably going to be best for the rift mode unless it has some big gimmicks that prevent it.
>>547547386Just release a character that removes the handsize limit, trust the plan
>>547547281Any Chizuru leak is either fake or leaked by someone working at Smilegate because there is not a single line of localization text, card art, or card skill effect for Chizuru inside the current data.pack
>>547547582they both do the same thing. :) gate will probably just put something on bosses that make them take increasingly reduced damage from each instance in a chain of extra attacks
Is Adelheid going to be the next Mika?
They should implement an indicator to show whether you have obtained a neutral before or not. Filling the cards are troublesome without it
>>547547737There’s no way some of those leaked cards make it into the release version.
>>547547695*card localization textthere's obviously Chizuru's lines in the event story, but her kit is completely missing
Kim Chong Sumida
>>547547737If she doesn't get gutted like a fish, yeah.
>>547546208>haru/orlea/magna teamgod I want this team
>>547547737this time, +2 AP
>>547547582>But if you pull for e2 and his BiS partner hes very good (4 ssrs) >Base Mei Lin has higher celling
>finally reach level 50>Doesn't want to play anymore
>>547544640Breast sweat
>>547548252Join us in Duet night abyss bro
>>547548252GET BACK THERE
>>547545572We literally watched the EN shitters showcase E6 Yuki and fail a chaos run.
can i use orlea with yuki in a team?
>>547532837Still don't get why the HP threshold to trigger slippery/discard in this vid is at like 50%, while mine is at 90% of the crab's health
>>547548271>DNAi would rather reinstall warframe
I'm addicted to battou
>>547547696Yeah maybeIt did sound like the fight would be good for Yuki, so I'm guessing there will be aoe even though we didn't see adds in the trailer
>>547548464>he missedlmao
>>547548203You need 2 teams though for great rift and Luke is the 2nd highest ceiling3rd highest is probably Tressa, 4th... maybe Rin?
Oh baby
>>547548376Something something it doesn't activate until it spawns the bubble (only possible if the very 1st turn). It "force activates" when it goes below 11k HP or something
>>547548626nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>it's a vagina monster wastes a run episode
>>547547849I gonna jerk it
>he jobbed to vagina face
>>547548760Another win for the gook feminist boogeyman.
>>547548626yeeeeeeeah
This general kinda died very quick
>>547548760T12?
i want a unit that's two characters and when you play a certain card it switches them out with a different set of cards.
>>547549121
>>547549229>>547549121that would be Luche
>>547549071Why. It's a good thing. Most gacha general may seems fast but it's just few schizos spamming and talking to themselves
>>547549121Wait for a character that transforms into a robot to fight
>>547549357True, mb, also there's not a lot to do right now, doing the weeklies it's so exhausting, they really gotta do a lot of QoL and good content to keep this game alive, ebic :DDDD doesn't go EoS because it's pvp and has an eSports scene, but this one is single player
>Character with no mindbreak bar>Character that still fights/ fights stronger when in mindbreak mode>Install/Stance/Transformation Character>Character who transforms and when it does it cause stress to the other characterswhat playstyle do you guys want?
>>547549071There's not a lot of content to go through. I guess I could try going to the scrapped side events and see if there's something interesting in there
>>547548998>regular balista >2 rapid firebricked
>>547549485we already have a stance character and a lot of people think shes a pain in the ass to play
>>547549485Character that doesn't give a fuck about you and uses your turns and plays the cards themselves
>>547549485Mesugaki that stuns enemies by taunting them.
>>547549481I think it will be good to get more multiplayer.We'll have the leaderboard mode soon and people will mess with minmaxing and posting attempts/decks a lot more when that is out. However ultimately I think it's going to end up being largely influenced by your characters and dupes.I think the best thing would be to add a daily chaos like the Slay the Spire daily run mode. You can have a random chaos, random team with random upgrades/fragments. Everyone gets the same setup same seed for the day and then there's a leaderboard for furthest clear and extra stuff on top of that just like StS.It would also be VERY good to shill new characters. Just put them in the daily chaos with a different good team every day for a week so people see how they feel when highly invested and end up wanting to pull for them to use in normal modes.
>>547549485>>Character with no mindbreak barWould inevitably be nerfed in Save Data content compared to the rest of the roster, and mindbreak isn't even that big a deal in Chaos. >>Character that still fights/ fights stronger when in mindbreak modeUseless in Save Data content. >>Install/Stance/Transformation CharacterRin kinda does this already. >>Character who transforms and when it does it cause stress to the other charactersMight be a bit more powerful due to the extra stress, so could be good in Save Data content.
>>547549695>we already have a stance characterwe do?
where's everybody?
>>547549485Yeah I definitely think a character that fights in mindbreak mode but harms the team like using mindbreak cards does is a good idea. I think it would be funny for a card in their kit (or a neutral card) to just have +50 stress on it.Something I really want is a character that can turn their starter unique into the monster card of the elite/boss you are fighting, and it remains as that monster card until you change it again (and saves in savedata as the monster card it was after killing final boss). Then all of their other cards just revolve around doing stuff with monster cards. There would be so many different ways to build the character because of the variety of monster cards.
>>547549071Yeah everyone moved on because Bricki was dogshit and there's no reason to roll or look forward to new characters who are going to be shit to eat up free gibs
>>547549898anon. . .
>>547549898
>>547550028>>547550004I forgot
>>547549895>Useless in Save Data content.Retard
Character that summons dragon to fight when
How do I stop being in love with Yuki
>>547549718how would that work? so he is pretty much on auto the whole time?
>>547550101>RetardExplain how I'm a retard. A character who can still fight and/or is more powerful while mindbroken is going to be nerfed while not mindbroken, and you're NEVER going to get mindbroken in Save Data content.
we did it Nia bros
>>547549795>I think the best thing would be to add a daily chaos like the Slay the Spire daily run modeSmilegate, hire this anon
>>547549562brother it took me long enough to get this for my yuki build. let me have this.
>>547550227nta but just have their neutral cards shit out stress on to themselves
>>547550241Grats anon. How many Yuki's did you end up with?
>>547550181NTA but just thinking about it, you could have a character where their cards can't be played normally, but all their cards have combo (the gearbag version not Mei Lin/Haru) with different conditions, and the epiphanies can change the conditions. So you could set up decks with synergy and triggering off of type/cost/attack/skill etc lots of options.>>547550227>Ego skill or card in kit gives +50 stressProblem solved
>>547550302>>547550386Okay, so you have a character that you need to dedicate 1-2 turns and significant draw or AP battery towards, and then what? Then it's a decent character instead of a shitty one? You can just use Mei Lin or Rin or Luke or Tressa or whoever and already kill it by the time you get mindbroken.
>>547550181Yes, high risk, high reward character, maybe give them some slight AP generation on crit or something, so they don't completely brick you
>>547550319E2
>>547550431>Okay, so you have a character that you need to dedicate 1-2 turns and significant draw or AP battery towardsOr it's faster/cheaper to do so and the character is strong enough that it negates the downsides.You aren't very creative.
>>547546385Yeah every run gives 1000
>>547550598>Or it's faster/cheaper to do so Right, that's already covered in my reply. That's already assumed. 1-2 turns is significantly faster than you could ever naturally mindbreak. >character is strong enough that it negates the downsidesNot happening. This is a gacha game. There is never going to be a character who is "good enough", and then becomes "SSS got tier" while mindbroken. That's never going to happen. They're going to be total dogshit, and then decent while mindbroken. There is never going to be a Dark Phoenix in a gacha game, and definitely not one that nerfed fucking Yuki because they thought she was too powerful. >You aren't very creative.I am creative. I'm also realistic. (You) and whoever else thinks this is a good idea in CZN are not realistic.
EoS in about 11 years
>>547550104remove her chest and you no longer love her, you're VERY shallow
So, I am lvl 52 and all my decks are trash, am I just retarded or unlucky?I never get to copy the op card needed for the build or get the correct epi. Some runs are finished just without any epi on a specific card.I am doing T12 lab, any tips?I am using calculator etc
>>547550432>>547550386Haughty/smug asshole character that plays their own cards does so fun
>>547550893I think zero system just gives better decks, with the risk of dying, getting the node reset and having to merge again, but you grind it very hard and you get all the upgrades, you can opt to merge with chaos orbs instead
>>547550893same boat as you anon. Just keep running, try to get lucky, etc. It's a numbers game. Focus on ? zones as much as possible. Labs are just garbage for epiphanies and copying. Did a t12 labs earlier where I was missing several cards altogether by the final fight.
>>547550920It is very cool and is not a trop used often, and they can be both a smug asshole like you said, or some berserker character that is in bloodlust mode all the time
>>547550841>That's already assumed. 1-2 turns is significantly faster than you could ever naturally mindbreak.Or it takes 1 card instead of multiple turns which is something you made up for it to seem worse.>Not happening. This is a gacha game. There is never going to be a character who is "good enough", and then becomes "SSS got tier" while mindbroken.Again, not creative. Like I said the way I would do it is that they are stronger while mindbroken but their cards have negative effects on your team as a whole (damage, status, stress, debuffs, etc) which make it risky. There could also be some sort of escalating penalty or limit to the good stuff while mindbroken so you don't want to stay that way.Being strong enough to negate the downsides is obviously a requirement, that's what would balance the character, otherwise what would be the point?>I am creativeMuch evidence to the contrary
>>547551063I see, Lab might be the problem. I do want to make decks to clear the seasonal crab and stuff, but just to switch it up might need to do some Zero runs again. Haven't done any zero since Lab dropped.
>>547550227They have cards that generates stress, brainletbro. This is why I'm gonna be hired as the Ideas Guy at a video game company and not you.
>>547551147>they can be both a smug asshole like you said, or some berserker character that is in bloodlust mode all the timeboth sound great but a smug asshole villainess that doesnt listen to your commands hits the good spot
>>547551420I saw that character the other day, she's re hot, makes me want to try omega strikers but I already play too many fucking videogames
Does this item work outside of chaos?
I may have gone a little overboard with draw on this deck
>>547551249>Or it takes 1 card instead of multiple turns which is something you made up for it to seem worse.That's unrealistic. If a character is only good while mindbroken, and then can mindbreak themselves in a single card, what's even the point? You're literally just playing Rin at that point, but with an easier condition. >Again, not creative.You understand this is a gacha game, right? No, you don't.>Like I said the way I would do it is that they are stronger while mindbroken but their cards have negative effects on your team as a whole (damage, status, stress, debuffs, etc) which make it risky. I've played Darkest Dungeon, thank you. You're not being creative, you're copying an archetype that already exists, one that you did not think of, and it would be trash in Save Data content, just like I already said. >Being strong enough to negate the downsides is obviously a requirementThis is a gacha game. >that's what would balance the character, otherwise what would be the point?You just told me that you negate the entire mechanic with one card, which makes it an easier mechanic to maintain than Rin's stance. >>547551384>This is why I'm gonna be hired as the Ideas Guy at a video game company and not you.Once again, I'm just being realistic.
For Yuki's fragments is it 12atk|25cdmg|20basic or 4order|25cdmg set?
>>547549485Before making new play styles I want them to fix Basin and move away from turn count. It inherently discourages specific play styles
Why'd you guys tell me to use my selector on Mei Lin this bitch is a fucking miserable nightmare to build a deck for
>>547551698Yes but why would you bring that?
>>547552005Don't build Mei Lin if you're a minmaxer. You're just going to burn out early (or stop being a minmaxer)
>>547552005OhnononoShould've picked Orlea
>>547552005for 9 days the premier boss is her hair color tho
>>547552005It's her trade off for being good at E0
>>5475519532-2-2 works, just give her the right mainstat
I beat the game
>>547552129She's broken at E0 with the meme build, everyone is "good" at E0
>>547552140You have to beat crab 9/9 to beat the game anon
>>547548337they don't really have synergy besides orlea giving vulnerability. you need units that can draw other player's cards to trigger yuki's mechanic.
>>547551818>That's unrealistic. If a character is only good while mindbroken, and then can mindbreak themselves in a single card, what's even the point?Again, escalating penalties or a limit, or it could be a resource spender. Like you build up some sort of resource with their non-mindbreak cards, and when you mindbreak you get some sort of boost (or a higher limit) so you want to do other stuff before you play the mindbreak card. >I've played Darkest Dungeon, thank you.And I haven't lol (well I played a few hours and stopped years ago, didn't like how the meta progression felt). >You just told me that you negate the entire mechanic with one card, which makes it an easier mechanic to maintain than Rin's stance. Except for the penalties or limitations which you're completely ignoring.
>>547552070>Don't build Mei Lin if you're a minmaxerThe fuck? Mei Lin is literally the #1 character for minmaxers.
>>547552349with yuki
>>547552360Sekred declaresthe Gear Bag shall cost 1 less.
>>547552414>Again, escalating penalties or a limit,The thing you are describing is either going to be trash in Save Data content, or it's going to be trash in Chaos. If the Stress bar is a super meter, it's only going to be good in Save Data content. If the stress bar is something to work towards (or, as you want to do, not actually work towards and just use 1 card to fix, completely negating the idea entirely) then it's going to be trash in Save Data content. Those are the options. >And I haven't lollol!!!>Except for the penalties or limitations which you're completely ignoring.I'm not ignoring anything, for the millionth time I am being realistic and am considering that this is going to have downsides. You are the one who is not.
>Shes good bro just get the literal one build with all the correct ephipanies and gears
>>547552536I mean that I agree with this statement:>this bitch is a fucking miserable nightmare to build a deck forSo I'm suggesting that if you don't find grinding Chaos to get that perfect save data fun, don't build her
I just want to have fun in my single player game :v
I don't know if this is a controversial opinion, but I think Confiscation and Rally are better than Gear Bag
Is it even possible to lose with this team?
>>547528338What world has the most "copy a card" events?
anyone else's D5 deck disappear
>>547553017Oh wait nm, still there lmao.
Burnout is setting in hard with this game, I'm so fucking tired of wasting time never getting events I need or getting fucked by RNG fights.
>Reach epilogueKino
>>547553002Technically the event lab, but in practice they all have 1. The lab has two versions of the same event. The common one forces you into a multiple choice. The rare one lets you select the card you want. You can't get both versions in one run. In all other locations, the copy event lets you pick by default. So the lab has the "most" but is also objectively the worst because of it.
>>547552890It's controversial because it's wrong
Guilds when
>>547552690>The thing you are describing is either going to be trash in Save Data content, or it's going to be trash in Chaos.No, because you can design around it. Again, you aren't creative and don't know how to design things. You being "realistic" is just being unable to solve design problems. You just need to make a set of questions for the problems and figure out how to answer all of them. For instance you have presented:>How do you make a mindbreak status being beneficial for the character in some way not only good in savedataWell unfortunately your "If the Stress bar is a super meter, it's only going to be good in Save Data content" statement was fucking retarded and false so it's not actually possible to make a problem from that to solve. Then we have "If the stress bar is something to work towards then it's going to be trash in Save Data content" so:>How do you make it so you can quickly generate stress for the character?Which I've already addressed.If there are problems with those solutions, you need to identify them and determine whether there are solutions. Anyways it's kinda pointless because you aren't creative and can't think of solutions so you just say it doesn't work.
>>547553170Play a better gacha if you're not already doing so, or normal videogames idk
>>547552890Strictly on draws>Confiscation+1 (with forbidden card)>Rally+0>Gear Bag+2
>>547553221It kinda sucks that high save files are locked behind the event because of the difficulty only going up to 6 on other planets
>>547553329It's +1 +0 +1, gear bag is -1 in hand +2 from deckgear bag does cost 0 most of the time though which is quite good
I think it's actually super fucking gay that Codex Runs (weekly battle pass quest) and Chaos Event Runs are counted individually, meaning I need to run 5 event chaos and 3 basic bitch Codex runs per week instead of just bundling them together into one "run any chaos at all" quest line.
>>547553386zero system bro?
>>547552890Rally(against enemy where action count matters) > Gear bag > Confiscation > Rally (action count doesn't matter)getting perm morale on gear bags is goated
>>547552140>mei linyou didn't beat the game but congrats on leaving easy (mika) mode
>>547553507You cap the BP weekly exp without the codex missions though
>>547549795>We'll have the leaderboard mode soonthe reason why I don't get what they did with the profile and also how there is 0 reason to add friends, the point is to have banners and profile frames to flex on the poor, coming from smilegate and not getting it is weird, specially being a gookge
>>547553329Gear Bag is +1 and only once in an encounter, and you can't really choose when to do it.There's a lot of value to gain from drawing cards for stuff like equipment giving bonus damage, heal or shield, Veronica getting Reloads etc, that Rallies and Confiscates repeating give that Gear Bag doesn't.Apart from epiphanies that give permanent bonuses, I don't think Gear Bag actually really gives you anything in the long run.
What substats do I focus on Tressa?
i was fighting the boss in exterior dimensional tunnel and escaped but my deck didnt save, is there any reason for this?
>>547553265I didn't read more of your post than this greentext because you are a useless individual. You're probably underage. >No, because you can design around it. Again, you aren't creative and don't know how to design things. You being "realistic" is just being unable to solve design problems.Anon, you told me that you would give this character a single card, probably with Outbreak of War if you had your way, that instantly mindbreaks them. And then on top of that, this character is going to be really good while they're mindbroken. That's just an OP character with zero upkeep. That's not """creative""", that's OP. You aren't designing around something, because in your world there are no limits. You aren't solving a problem, because there is no problem - the character uses a single card to become mindbroken (very """creative""" solution btw) and now they are in their OP state, and it cost them nothing. How any video game at all, and definitely a gacha game that nerfed Yuki would go, is that this character archetype works towards being mindbroken naturally, maybe they have a couple cards that increase Stress for the entire time to help them get there, and then once they are mindbroken they can still fight and might even be better than the average character. This is going to take 1-2 turns minimum in a Save Data setting, when Mei Lin might have already just killed the boss. The other alternative is that the Stress meter acts sort of like a super meter. If this were the case, then your very, very, very """creative""" idea of using a single card to mindbreak the unit, thus """designing around""" the downside could be feasible. They mindbreak, then they get some sort of damage increase or some addition effect on their cards that only activates while they are mindbroken, but each card played subtracts stress or has a chance to unbreak them (sort of like the normal unbreak mechanic), probably spreading Stress like wildfire, and this would be trash in Chaos.
>>547553708Damage over time and then either crit or attack depending on your build.
>>547553702I think gear bag is definitely quite good for quickly getting through you deck once and getting all your upgrades up and running.
>>547553708the only one that matters is the damage over time
did they say they were going to lover/remove the cost on zero system?because its kinda ass
>>547553773>>547553793Are there any stats that affect DOT dmg besides damage over time?
>>547553804They already lowered it, it used to cost 50k to merge on D5.
>>547553804Grind event world until you max out zero system upgrades and then you can use chaos orbs to craft codex
>>547552909Where's your heal skills to shit out shadow dagger upgradex3?
>>547550920Beautiful where is she from?
do people play orlea, or do they get dupes of her and go yeah sure I'll lug ye tired arse about?
>>547553615explainhave I been fucking up this whole time
>>547554069https://x.com/doudoude89/mediaartist OC
>>547553968How many tier unlock levels for the perma upgrades are there?
>>547553738>Anon, you told me that you would give this character a single card, probably with Outbreak of War if you had your way, that instantly mindbreaks them. And then on top of that, this character is going to be really good while they're mindbroken.Holy strawman lying retard, or maybe just retard if that's what you got out of what I said.>the character uses a single card to become mindbroken (very """creative""" solution btw) and now they are in their OP state, and it cost them nothing.Yes ignore where I said that there are many ways to balance it such as needing to meet requirements to use the card, or the card cosuming a character resource that you want to stack, or getting benefits from cards in mindbreak having limits, or being in mindbreak having an escalating penalty, or being in mind break just having penalties in general for using cards so you want to only use it for certain high value things.>How any video game at all, and definitely a gacha game that nerfed Yuki would goGlad to see you repeating the same thing of "this is the only possible outcome and design". Literally 0 creativity retard.>this would be trash in ChaosSee what I mean? You don't ask the question of why it would be trash and what you could potentially do to solve that issues. You just say it would be trash, provide nothing further, and prove my point.
>>547553843Attack
>>547554087I do play her. Both the free healing every turn from slimes while buffing Beryl variant, and 3 1000% attack slimes for 0 ap variant.
>>547554205You need just a bit over the required amount for lv60 in the Codex pass.
>>547554106There's a 10k cap which you can reach without the 1/2/3 codex missions.
>>547553738are you using an llm? thats not x thats x is pure llm speak
>>547554226>Holy strawman lying retard, or maybe just retard if that's what you got out of what I said.Here: >>547551249>Or it takes 1 card instead of multiple turns which is something you made up for it to seem worse.I'm done with you. I didn't read the rest of what you're saying. You're not creative, you're copying an archetype that exists in Darkest Dungeon, and you're not "designing around" anything, you're creating a unit that is supposed to have downsides, except you "designed around" all of the downsides. You are a child.
>>547554373Modern 4chan is funny. You guys are seriously so stupid. Anything that's longer than a Tweet, and you think ChatGPT wrote it because that's more words than you've ever read in your entire life.
>>547554505well that guy also uses a hyphen as an emdash which is also llm coded
>>547554384>HereThanks for proving my point that you're a strawman lying retard or just plan retard.You're quoting 1 thing that by itself is pure upside in a post where I give many examples of downsides to counter that large upside, and many more in subsequent posts.>you're creating a unit that is supposed to have downsides, except you "designed around" all of the downsidesYes because there are supposed to be upsides that counteract downsides. That's what balance is retard. If you create a unit that's all downsides no one would play it. You're the retard saying it would be trash in X because of downsides proving why upsides are needed.
>>547554589>that guy"That guy" is me, and you are really just further proving how stupid you are.
>>547554652anon its really hard to read what you type. youre obviously esl
finally somewhat worth
>>547554678I'm the guy he's arguing with and I don't think that what he wrote is llm because llms don't write shit that retarded.
>>547554678Modern 4chan:>(You) decided that you dislike a post that you didn't read, and it's longer than a Tweet"Clearly this is an AI/bot/ChatGPT, etc.">(You) decided that you dislike a post that you didn't read, and it's shorter than a Tweet"ESL" [note: there is nothing that would ever lead anyone to believe that the person who wrote it is ESL, and this insult is used almost exclusively by people who are themselves ESL]
>>547554179damn he's the OG of the fang yuan pic ty anon
>>547554505>That's not """creative""", that's OP>em dashExcept the triple quotes around creative, these are really common AI signs. You just shouldn't use them anymore
this argument has more back and forth than the bosses ayo
>>547554869its genuinely hard to follow and sounds like a typical russian rant
>>547554896>You just shouldn't use them anymoreI will never take advice on how to write from an illiterate retard like (You), who thinks anything longer than a Tweet was written by AI.
>>547554898shh nigger
I didnt expect my simple question to turn into this long argument
>How any video game at all, and definitely a gacha game that nerfed Yuki would gothis broke my brain
>>547554996I don't think your post was written by an AI, I gave you reasons why someone might think your post was written by an AI. But you do you.
>>547555063Someone here thinks that copying Darkest Dungeon and then "designing around" all of the flaws of an archetype is being """creative""" and that there is no such thing as simply being realistic.
>>547555063Meh, just clock in to do your daily potential runs then clock out. 9/9 crab can wait.
>>547554505llm spotted
>>547555142youre right its too retarded to be written by ai
>>547552278kayron become useable at e3
>>547555142>I gave you reasons why someone might think your post was written by an AIThe *only* reason that anyone would ever think that anything I have ever typed was written by AI is because they are an illiterate zoomer who is looking for a reason to shitpost but they cannot find one because reading anything longer than a Tweet is far too daunting a task for their feeble little brain. They don't even think it was written by AI, they're just shitposting.
>>547555161What? I'm not even the one who brought up a character that fights in mindbreak. It was the guy you just replied to.It's just that pretty much everyone who has thought about new character mechanics for 5 minutes has come to the conclusion that a character with that mechanic is some very obvious open design space, and as soon as people started talking about it you started spamming that it's literally impossible to make a character like that in this game which is a full retard take.
>>547555283>as soon as people started talking about it you started spamming that it's literally impossible to make a character like that in this game...that's not what I said at all. Please, learn to read. Talk about a strawman.
Post your favorite Fate, here's mine
>>547555368The one that gives me money whenever I move.
One time I saw an anon in /smtg/ using AI to reply to some posts, that was funny to witness because the AI had 0 idea what to say and got all kinds of plots from several smt games mixed up
>>547555398Easy on the strip club broski
Can we talk about something important instead, like large anime titties.
>beat level 56>next level codex spawned: level 59fuck you give me level 61 reeeee
>>547549485>character with no mindbreak barI want a risk/reward character where mindbreak actually makes them stronger and fucks with your other units.
>>547555364>>Character that still fights/ fights stronger when in mindbreak mode>Useless in Save Data content. Hello? You straight up said that any character with that mechanic would be useless in half the game. Obviously you aren't going to make a character that's useless in savedata content which means you can't make a character with that mechanic if what you're saying is true (which is why you are a retard and it's not true).
>>547555398I like that if I have a chaos that has severely lowered money from fights, otherwise it feels a little overkill
>>547555445I'm in
>>547555368No contest, best Fate bar none.
>>547555634As far as savedata goes I think transform 3 common to neutral has the highest potential.
>>547555578>Hello?Yeah, hi. >You straight up said that any character with that mechanic would be useless in half the game. Yes, I did say that. I did not say "that it's literally impossible to make a character like that". You can definitely make a character like that. It would just be useless in Save Data content. Or it would be useless in Chaos content. One or the other. Keep in mind, there are already characters who are pretty much only good in Save Data content, and that saying this isn't even that different from how the game already is, and that's *without* characters who interact with the Stress bar as their core gimmick.
>>547555495I need that DD abomination
>>547555692This shit always brick my mei lin..
>>547555692It's too RNG for my tastes, if you can pick which basics get replaced I might agree with you
So I started doing the side stories and how did this get translated into The Detective and the Shaman?The original Korean text is 형사와 탐정 . All of the LLMs I checked would translate this to The Detective and the Private Eye.What kind of MTL are they even using?
help
>>547555878The cheapest one maybe I refuse to believe humans did this, not even jeets
>>5475559231
>>547555249He's usable with tressa and his partner too
>>547555759>Keep in mind, there are already characters who are pretty much only good in Save Data contentThis isn't true lmaoEvery character we have atm is useful in bothThere are some that aren't great, but literally all of them could be fixed with a numbers buff, which means it's not a design issueIf we're talking about being bis for great rift then design space becomes a lot tighter, but that's not what was said, and the design restrictions for that don't even have anything to do with stress.Anyways, your assertions that it would only be useful in 1 type of content no matter what are just wrong.
>>547556145>This isn't true lmaolmao!!!!>Anyways, your assertions that it would only be useful in 1 type of content no matter what are just wrong.No, it's correct. In fact, I hope we get one eventually, that way you can see.
>>547552909wait till you run into an elite mob that stacks morale and 1 shots your team since you don't have a vanguard
Tressa/Mika/?For chaos zero to build a tressa deck.
>>547556229I do hope we get one, which will obviously be fine in both modes, because they aren't going to make a new character that's useless in one type of contentYou never even explained why it would be useless in chaos btw. And your reason for it being useless in savedata was answered by several people.
>>547555368I like the ego manifestation +1
>>547552909Seems like that team could be very weak to Tressa breaking down, especially because you have no vanguard so you're going to be constantly getting stress.
Yuki the virgin
>day 35>Zero fanart
>>547556431>which will obviously be fine in both modesNo, a unit whose core mechanic is the stress meter is not going to be good in both modes. >You never even explained why it would be useless in chaos btw.I did, actually. I gave both examples of what such a unit could be. Anyway, I'm done with you too. Unless you're the same fucking guy, in which case, fuck you, why did you reply to me again. I hid the reply chain.
>>547556556>Zero fanartBro? Your HuGOD pics and lewds?
>>547556638Kek
>I did, actually. I gave both examples of what such a unit could be.NopeYou gave two examples of what you think a unit like that could be like, which weren't even my examples just your own very limited ideas. Within those examples the first one is good in savedata and chaos, but your problem with it is "it's OP" (while ignoring the downsides I mentioned).The second one is good in savedata, and your reason for it being bad in chaos is it would "probably spread Stress like wildfire" which is a mechanic you just added as a downside and then basically decided that mechanic has to exist and automatically makes it bad in chaos, because again you aren't very creative. First thing that pops into your head, and there's no other way it could possibly work, and that idea is bad, therefor it has to be bad.Actual retard.
>>547535748Mine's only E4
>>547555878The translations in this game are so funny man
Come home Captain, we're up in 25th
>>547556985I feel like I never want to play one of these games that has the open world completion aspect again. Shit is just so exhausting.Also the new one is like non-gacha right? But does it have the same progression as the OG where stuff is level capped and releases progressively?
>>547556556Artists would get harassed I think because of the "AI"
>Equipment says activate at the start of battle>Lasts the entire battle>Equipment says activate every turn>Only activates on turn 1
>>547556556Epic 7 gets no fanart either The japanese mostly care about autobattler so they can play actual videogames at the same time, or hoyo games
>>547555878Deepl or non llm Google translate. 100% mtl
>>547557165E7 has no AI accusation and its fanart scene is still dead as this game
>>547556985Holy fuck, ToF is still alive? I quit when the game went to the second planet, the massive desert planet. Holy shit, I kind of miss it now
so when are we getting the patch that gives us the unit stimmy?
>>547557243deepl translates it correctly too. Google translate translates it as "detective and detective" which is still closer than "detective and shaman".
>>547557215>every turnIt says "a turn" and you got exactly that lol
Finally 50. Now the real game can begin
>>547557289E7 spawned trickcal though..... >>547557370Must be some thirdie translation company they hired then
>>547557130No info on that. They say you unlock all the weapons and characters through the event so they could fumble the game again by time gating those events like before lol. >>547557305Probably Tencent money. This could be their last Hail Mary
>>547557215Another case of their MTL being worse than deeplHow is this even possible
>>547555878'shaman' is what they're translating whatever the miko is in later chapters, so it's probably a mixup
>>547557545Is Rabi literally the same gacha character to be drawn in this artstyle or is it an edit? Are you telling me the chinese literally looked at Rabi memes and decided to make a game where everyone is a Rabi?
>>547556985At least the translation is better than czn
>>547557662i think this came first
>>547533524What does 'Mulligan' mean? This is my first card-based game (I mostly play ARPG).
>>547557854It usually means to redraw your opening hand, but people also use it to refer to effects that make you redraw a large portion of your hand.
>>547557854Redraw initial hand after shuffle -x cards as penalty
>>547557750I looked it up and apparently it's true, they even hired him to be an artist at trickal wtf
>>547555623Everyone was in her at some point
Chizuru dateshttps://rentry.org/ovk759qk
>it's ez bro just get this specific epi then copy it three times>then get this specific neutral three times too>30+ restart later>still not getting anything doneYou lying piece of shit.
>>547558106Why are you forcing it nigga, just sleep on it or do something else. It's not like the crab's gonna start walking away sideways in the next hour.
>>547558106use veronica and dont take neuts so theres a higher chance to copy it
Here is simple fix for ephy rngInstead of starting with default deck start the game with starter deck for example Beryl opening found upgrade deck or MeiLin move deck
>>547558156>"Lol." said the crab, "Lmao.">the crab walked away sideways the next our
>>547558198>use veronicaHow does that help?
>>547558348she has the most unique cards
>>547558218>where da crab
I'm so fucking cooked in zzz
>>547558050>extremely for (You)wtf...
>>547558215rougelike is a genre about rng and making your character stupidly strong by abusing the combos. westcucks are literal vegans of vidya that hates everything good and fun
>>547558380>Best card draw>Best at farming buildsGod, when are we getting more standard pulls, I need the selector
>>547558348Unique card can't be copied (because they're unique duh)
Hey
>>547558156Because I can't beat Judas 7 and today is the last day before reset. There's also this fucker that said it's easier than potential grinding so I thought it won't be this bad.
>>547535318Fixed dmg and counter dmg are fucking trash and bugged.Cant crit, dont scale and CERTAINLY arent 50% dmg. Or whatever the fuck it claims it is.Get 1k attack:presumably a fixed dmg of 50% would do 500dmg. No, its 70 or less against the lowest lvl enemies in the game. So its not like its a defense issue.Cant crit either like counterattacks. Cant raise its dmg in gear like the ubsurdly broken extra dmg. Fixed needs an insane overhaul to ever be viable
>>547558198Already using Vero but my problem is I can't even get the right epi.
>>547558776>Judas 7Good luck to your endeavors then. I thought you're just another dude trying to rush 9/9 crab at the first third of the season.
>>547558106>i dis 30 btwNah i bet 1 or 2.
>>547558536W-why is she smiling at me like that...?
>>547557662Rabi came first. Gooks liked the meme and made a game of it
>>547558050Oops forgot to tag the choices. Updated to mark which dialogue lines correct and incorrect
The standard gibs are completely gone now
>>547549485good idea, email them to the gooks
>>547559076>let's make our canon wife kafka without the sex
>>547558106That's nothing. Try farming an actually good Rin deck, where you need specific divine on destruction (it's weighted rng by the way, game literally will not give you the correct one intentionally) and copy it at least two times, specific divine on annihilation, and specific regular epiphanies on other cards. At best you can take suboptimal drawing slash. And that's before considering gear and neutrals.
>>547555368Rest and train
>>547559064At first I thought it was chinese because of bilibili publishing it wtf
>>547558965So true xis.
>>547557967>hired to be the artist on a gacha game because you made a memeAwesome
>>547559145It's going to be really fun to do this every new Season.
>>547557610I start suspecting they don't use MTL. At this point it looks like an incredibly incompetent translator. Even early Horizon Walker wasn't this bad. Maybe you got gibberish in the story, but at least skill descriptions made sense. They needed ~2 months to improve the translation, hope CZN doesn't take more time than a small indie company.
>>547559145lol what do you need any of that shit for.
>>547553170I give it a month and if Chizuru sucks or they don't put in epiphany reroll/fix lab0 copy events, it's going to bleed players
>>547558776How bad are your save data?? I could beat Judas 10 with save data back from October
>>547559095And those are the most valuable ones since the "limited" pulls are all for bricks right now.
You know what, I think the reason why seasons last for 9 weeks is because we're supposed to get story updates once a month but since the shithead gook in charge fucked up the main story we're pretty much forced to play only the seasonal chaos instead of also enjoying 2-3 chapters every seasonIn the end it all goes back to that fucking tard
Actually I realized there's no guide for excursions at all online. I updated https://rentry.org/ovk759qk with all current characters' date dialogue in case you want to minmax affinity
>>547558824Agony does fixed damage and is very good.Idk about bugged, I don't think 50% means 50% of atk.
>Khalipe seeded accountAt this point I should just max her ego
>>547549485Give me an actual air superiority
>>547559486>In the end it all goes back to that fucking tard30% cheaper nigger dicks in Dawei
>>547559505Agony's good because you can spam stack a million of it while also doing decentish damage on a strong as fuck character. On its own, barring some sort of absurdly high defense/damage reduction type faggots it's not particularly amazing.
>>547549485I want this nigga back
>people are STILL farming for hyperoptimized divine epiphanies on core cards and trying to copy them one gorillion times because they need additional crutches to beat contentBurnout says hello. Just git gud you fucking scrubs. I bet most of you use Veronica/Mei Lin, Homodog or some other retardproof team.
>>547559734Yes and?
>>547559601Day 1 people would have called this insanely lucky
>>547559734Maybe the ranked leaderboard faggotry will prove me wrong, but right now I seriously don't think there's any real reason to try to farm out THE deck on most characters in this event. If you want THE deck on most characters just keep fucking up regular Zero, maybe farm some mats from the event if you're broke like everyone else but outside of that don't bother with the seasonal shit.
>>547559734I mean a lot of people are probably doing it to prep for the leaderboard mode.
>>547559734Yes I do use Veronica/mei Lin and I also use Hugo. No I don't need the perfect god decks to clear grab and basin. For now.
>>547559601>going all-in on KhalipecoinGanbare anon, you have two egos in the exchange too for 400 a piece
>>547559182He's living the life
>>547559734>noooooo you can't optimize your teams to enjoy the game
>>547559628Kek
>the way to play Selena is to just throw bunch of neutrals on her decknaruhodo
>>547559970Oh shit, it's "cocks"? Well then.
>>547559970Oh no oh no oh no Lowkey feel bad for the guy idk why
>>547559937The chinks definitely work them like a workhorse, not even zzz's nip artist lasted a year
>>547559950>needing to optimize your teams to enjoy the game
>>547560149should kill himself faggot ruined his games and other games alongside them
>>547559863That's still lucky. Khalipe is still really good. And if he picks Mei Lin instead, his account is pretty much complete.
We need some new drama so the thread isn't dead
>>547559950>go through one million layers of RNG for Teh Perfekt Dick>RNG says no>"b-bweeeeh, you said it's easy, b-bweeeeeh">proceed to bitch about your perfectly average luck and your inability to hit the ultra far-right end of the bell curveThey could just, I dunno, git gud.
>>547560149He sold out his soul when Genshin became a massive hit, I feel nothing for this manBring back Kianners and no I'm not talking about the pokemon ripoff, bring her back in a mainline game
>>547560229What other games did he ruin?
>>547560253>inb4 chizuru is also a brick>inb4 3 nigger bricks in dawei
>>547560327Any gacha that uses his gay 50/50 mechanics
>>547560149>Lowkey feel bad for the guy idk whyHe sold his soul to the devil and the CCP in exchange for more money than any single human being could ever use. Money that is no longer functional, there is so much of it. And his devilish greed was so vast that it has morphed the foundation of all subsequent gachas in a negative way. His greed left an impact crater upon the fabric of reality.
>>547560240>Khalipe is still really goodFor Chaos, I still haven't even seen a single Khalipe crab clear
>>547559414For any clear of anything that doesn't feel like shit to do. Well, if you're satisfied with baby tier stuff like 6/9 crab you don't need any of this, of course. Enjoy your rock bottom place on the leaderboard too.
I'm a noob. Is there a guide/resource on recommended epiphanies?
>>547560417>it has morphed the foundation of all subsequent gachas in a negative way.just post with an id so i can filter you you boring fucking loser. the same garbage take ten hours a day every day for the past month from you. it's absolutely pathetic.
>>547560517Prydwen
>>547560450https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3P7OCY74w
I'll take my dagger and retain spam over seething over decks for 18 hours a day just to then seethe over ranked leaderboard faggotry.Gold looks better anyways, Sensei.
>>547560604bro is recording on a toaster
>>547560604Khalipe not getting wheelchaired*
>>547560552If telling the truth upsets you to the point that you begin hallucinating things that have never happened, then maybe you should go to Reddit.
>>547560552He's not wrong, the only thing Supercreative's previous work did right was adding a cheap spark on all new units that aren't light/dark. I'd rather they used that system instead of mijewyo's retarded 50/50 system that pleases no one with its incredibly poor pull income
>>547560320I know is not technically "mainline" but we have her in zzz
>>547560480>rock bottom place on the leaderboardlol you retard. you hear the word leaderboard and chimp out for a month. can't wait til you see what a casual nothing it is.
>Hoyo 50/50>FGO / older gacha were even worse>But das different>Yadda yaddaGet a new script bots.
>>547560552kek'd. absolutely buckbroken.
>>547560405Would you rather no pity like granblue and fgo back in the day? No thanks
>>547560659Khalipe already wheelchairs your crutchmongering units in chaos runs so it's only fair. Or what, did you want the fucking hybrid shielder to magically contend with main DPSes?
>>547560698you literally post here all day every day about mihoyo. it is all you talk about every single day. this is your entire life. absolute fucking brainrot.
hithe battlepass meta for the first year isnyxnyx ego 1nyx ego 2nyx ego 3nyx ego 4nyx ego 5nyx team 2nyx ego 1nyx ego 2nyx ego 3nyx ego 4nyx ego 5right?
>>547560286Post your default deck clear.
>>547560912That's not even close to accurate. You just love Dawei and homoverse so you feel like that's what's happening.
>>547560950Nyx is overrated, I like the blue haired healer bitch from the gacha more.
>>547560950No
>>547560912I post what and wherever I please. If seeing things you don't like upsets you this much, maybe don't go to public forums, you petite dicked faggot.
>>547560950nonyxnyxthen egos if you really want to, though I'd probably look at some of the others
>>547560552TRVUKE
>>547560950
>>547560783>get a NotKiana with dapper drip and dappier nickname>invented the mascot of the entire game>never gonna be playable because she lived on the same era as Mibibi's ancestorGee thanks
>>547561015but none of the others are good or useful in any way
>>547561080How's he in today's meta? CM main who washed out ages ago btw
>>547561186priscilla weakness attack persists the whole fight. so you can weakness attack any boss with haru anchor or black dance repeatedly. I think that's pretty cool.
Nyx is overrated. Useless in save content since you can just retry if you got bad RNG. >ChaosLmao who need Nyx in Chaos
>>547561186Bro, your sex partner?
>>547560842Why are you such a little bitch bro
>>547560896That's why I said she's pretty mid actually. She's a chaos character, not an endgame content character.
>>547559628based
>>547561436All I see is you moving goalposts. Try harder next time
>Feeling called out by thatlel
>>547561436Chaos is end-game.
what are we arguing about in this beautiful sunday morning?notice how it's always the weekends and during eu/na hours
Anyone reached 115 yet in Codex? How high do the tiers go?
>MAMOTE AGEMASU NE~>KOSOKU IHANDESU YO~>MAMOTE AGEMASU NE~>KOSOKU IHANDESU YO~>MAMOTE AGEMASU NE~>KOSOKU IHANDESU YO~>MAMOTE AGEMASU NE~>KOSOKU IHANDESU YO~
>>547561515No goalpost was moved though, but I see you're trying to move on because you're scared of being wrong so that's fine by me since I know I'm right.
>>547561321It's such a shame that this semen demon is a partner. It's a shame all of them are partners rather than units, but this one especially.
>>547561635You know you're so right yet you still argue as if you aren't. Concession accepted.
>>547561605Because this game is not good enough to be talking about it most of the time
>>547560659>>547560896You can definitely make a good savedata Khalipe (in theory). It's just a matter of hitting AP on vulture, which is rare as fuck unfortunately. It's a baseline epi too so you can get draw divine on top of that which is the god khalipe setup. Play a 2cost from another character and get 2-3 free AP and draws.
>>54756161014
>>547561635>k-khali only gud in chaos>s-show me crab clear>n-no it doesn't countcry harder next time
>>547561680>you just need every star and planet to align ezpz
>>547561635Please stfu retard
>>547561673There was no argument being presented though>>547561715And I already said why it doesn't, but keep being disingenuous if you want. Doesn't make you any less incorrect.
>>547561692>170 points maxYou know I was about to say "what if they added higher tiers for whales" but I realized how retarded that sounds in a leaderboard game.
>>547560886>b-but fag gay orgy>b-but gayblue>dawei the nigger actually fixed gachakys
>>547561740I mean I have several AP khalipe saves in base game, I just somehow haven't hit it a single time in season even though I use khalipe like 90% of the time.
I got khalipe recently and it was only recently when people started saying khalipe is badhappened when I got mei lin toostrange isn't it?
>>547561748>There was no argument being presented thoughExactly so shut the fuck up.
>>547561743no you
>>547560950Nyx isn't even that good. BP partners are all kinda shit.
>>547561790Chill dude
>>547561843You first.
>>547561715This is why it's never a fruitful endeavor to "prove" something to a schizo and/or shitposter on 4chan. They'll never accept it as proof, not matter how hard you prove something. The goalposts just keep moving until you get tired of replying, at which point he will declare himself the victor, after having been proven wrong multiple times.
>>547561748>i-i'm rightCope harder next time
is left really multiplicative?
ORAORAORAORA
>>547561890>Nyx isn't even that good.You will never convince me that discard up to 3, draw discard count +1 is not good.
>>547561956You need to cope harder right now its seems like.
>>547560952
>>547562010for 4 ego points
>>547562058Yeah, still good.
>>547561952Go back to your hoyofag thread and cry about it like Dawei lmfao
>>547561436>she's only good in the content you spend the most time inokay
>>547560886This is always a retarded argument, because I've only played one (1) gacha that had no pity in my entire life, and it was actually really fucking generous, and it wasn't Granblue or FGO. Meanwhile, every single fucking gacha game under the sun now has 50/50 bullshit with fake news scaling rates, all thanks to Gayshit. So yes, Gayshit is way worse.
>>547562010The skill effect is good, but not for 4 EP. If you use Nia or Cassius, Nyx is inferior to 3* and 4* partners with heal on demand. Nyx is mostly for Mika.
>>547562114I accept your concession, wrong and retarded schizo. [-]
>>547562010The abilities to remove shitty card to make sure I will never have shitty hand in later stage of the Chaos run pretty much makes Nyx useless.
>>547562123Why do you avoid mentioning that one gacha you played before
>>547562025>n-no uGet better arguments next time.
>>547562257Kill yourself. You're mentally ill. I win.
>>547562257Because this is a gacha thread, and you're a shitposter.
>the ladyboy found his phone againsigh
>>547562306No u is all that's needed in this case
>gets his feefees hurt>because he doesnt like the same things he doesKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>547561981Nope, it's a MATHSIGN_ADD(cs01_0337_01 corresponds to SKILL_EFF_DAMAGE_VALUE_ADD)
>ceaseless bait hoursI'll come back later when India and SEA aren't awake.
>>547559734>>547560286Wanting 1-2 correct normal epiphanies and winning copy rng is not hyperoptimized, you disingenious faggot(s). It's the bare minimum.
>>547562309Projecting too hard dude, big weirdo vibes >>547562324Shh, no one is talking to you
>>547562409Bruh, they can't even get their own syntax correct no matter how many times they change it or try to make it uniform.
>>547562459>is wrong>called out>melty
>>547562418it isnt india and sea thonotice how the thread dies down on na/eu sleep/work hours?it's childrenthis is the only kind of game they can afford
Leave me alone..
>>547530238>>547531135>>547531318>>547532234They fixed the cassius shuffle triggering every renoa bullet in deck interaction and noone gave a shit. As if people would notice that hotfix lol. Stop being such drama queens.
Actually, now that I think about it, is Nikke the only modern gacha game that didn't just copypaste Gayshit's gacha, or are there others?
>>547562552duet night abyss tried to be a gacha and failed so hard it removed the character gacha entirely
>>547562552P5X has a banner with guaranteed rateup, but higher soft pity
>>547562597Not a gacha. >>547562680Snowbreak has a guaranteed banner too, but it was added after feedback way later on, and the 50/50 still exists for the gamblers.
>>547562552Define modern
>get mei lin >absurdly boring to playThats it Im going double shielder orlea hyper carry.
>>547562754>SnowbreakOpinion discarded.
>>547562680Nta anon but I saw there's a banner right now that gives you two S ranks if you get any of the two, they're both dudes so that must be why I kinda want to try that game because I'm a big smt and persona fan, but I also don't really feel like getting stat checked to death without having a way to counterattack
>>547562517nah, it's south asia >>547320664
>>547562803...? It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Why are you getting triggered by everything, little man?
>>547562552
say I modified my client so that if I change my pc's local time it also causes the game to skip forward days and weekswould this be an ethical way of datamining server side upcoming content such as new banners, the standard banner 50/50 selector or store items?
>>547562503Most anons complain about not getting the correct basic epiphanies and don't care about stacking divines. Stop defending a broken system you faggot.
>>547562986Who gives a shit about ethics?
>>547562941>snobbler believes hes in a position to talk down to others
>>547562941Every anon itt cooked him too hard so he's all mad now, and he keeps posting itt instead of going for a walk or taking a deep breath
>>547562986Try it
>>547563042most people here care a lot about how others play the game
>>547563035NTA but sounds like skill issue on your part.
>>547560402>inb4 chizuru is also a brickthat's a given
>>547562986I don't think that's doable because of how servers work but give it a try I guess
>>547562986Don't do it on your main account, obviously.
>>547532837Rin at e0 takes like 7 turns for the crab. Luke at e0 takes two. Mei Lin is still the only one who can 1 turn ot
When are we getting materiql refunds? This fucking game takes too many credits
Acheron brick?
>>547563150that is how koreans found out about gfl2 global release schedule btw
>>547560552uh oh hoyotroon melty
>>547563184>When are we getting materiql refunds?Never. You *are* getting unit (money/credits) refunds though. On December 3rd.
>>547563221Kill yourself, you pathetic loser. You lost.
They cut my boy's peenus weenus in the chink version of phantom x, take a look at this (uncensored)
>>547562552Trickcal bwo
>>547562482The problem is that all of the card descriptions are written by hand. They already have a clearly defined structure for their skill effects. It takes maybe a month at most to implement a parser for the skill eff json object to produce card text automatically, *then* you can manually write the effects that the parser couldn't catch.
50/50 isn't as bad as locking 15% of a character's kit behind a signature weapon.
>>547563308lol hoyotroon melty
>>547563358Sounds fucking retarded. Glad you're not a game dev.
>>547563334just look at mara pics or something more productive bro
>>547563334Censored
>>547563482>with pantslmao
>>547563365>50/50 isn't as bad as locking 15% of a character's kit behind a signature weapon.It's actually worse. Let's say that there are no 50/50s and there are real rates instead of fake news bullshit scaled rates. Instead of losing the coinflip and needing to go to hard pity, you can just roll for both the character and their weapon, because that's the same as going to hard pity. And if the rates are real rates and they aren't fake news bullshit scaled Gayshit rates, then you might even pull them early. People forget, but when you have real that aren't fake new bullshit scaled rates courtesy of homoverse, you have an actual chance to pull the unit or the weapon before soft pity.
>>547563358I could literally fix it all in a day with chatgpt writing some code and translating (hint:create a keyword list korean->english and always have that in the context)
>>547563334>>547563482This is relevant to /czn/ how exactly?
>>547563440That one is actually very fucking funny
>>547563542both are shit
You know what I actually dislike about mihoyo gacha system? 1 pull being 160 gems.It's fucking annoying to do mental math about how many pulls I have so I tend to round it to 1 pull being 150 and I can't shake the feeling that it's done intentionally so you'd think you have more than you actually have
>>547563517You have no idea what you're talking about and it shows. How about you stop talking and let the adults handle this, kid?
>>547563604Ah, you're just the guy who keeps getting triggered by literally everything, aren't you? You can't even try to prove me wrong, because I'm right.
>>547563591Because it is.
>>547563573True >>547563591Just ask an AI to help you if you can't do the math yourself, also CZN uses a similar system
>>547563425You don't have to be a game dev to parse a json object anon. Do you have a better idea to avoid these mistakes?>>547563529Works great until you hit the context limit
>>547563591>and I can't shake the feeling that it's done intentionallyObviously it's done intentionally. Everything "unfriendly" about gacha is done intentionally. Things that are bad in live service games are almost always bad on purpose.
>>547563517>the retarded primary school drop out is sperging out again
>>547563208That's crazy, I had no idea this was doable
>>547563591>to do mental math about how many pulls I have so I tend to round it to 1 pull being 150Uhhhh..... 16, 32, 48, 64, 80, 96, 112. HTH bwo
>>547563765Just go back to your hoyo thread, anon. This is not a place for you to samefag in.
>>547563591160 per pull is the result of them calculating backwards from "I want the average 5* to cost 10k primogems per pull, with soft pity starting at 70-75 pulls and hard pity at 90".
>>547563736>Works great until you hit the context limitYeah I think 196K will be enough lol
>>547563903Eh you might be right. I don't know how much free stuff you can do with AI these days and they probably have better context limits with paid plans
>>547563591It's 100% intentional. Just like paid packs giving you not enough premium currency to do 10/20/30/etc rolls or more premium currency than you need at a higher price.
Gachas lowkey better than a lot of normal nowadays videogames
DoomGODS wondered/czn/iggers lost...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKkOiylWAwTWO CARDS??
Nyxlets are getting uppity again
>>547564154most gachas are dailyslop where you log in and autos for like 10 minutes like BA, hoyoslop etc. actual gameplay ones like czn and wizdaphne are in the minority
>>547564208Can you summarize the vid for me
>>547564191We always do
>>547564372>get the two remove card choice from the first dude>get the event where you convert into a remove>get another event to remove a card or a shop>leave/suicide
>>547564191Wondered why they always lose that is!
where are the standard pulls at
>>547564549you dont want to pull on standard you will get all standard chars and dupes from losing 50/50s
>>547564549All gone.
>>547564549Yeah I need my Veronica too
>>547563837Uh oh, melty
>>547564549i actually rolled for one partner before i realized how bad local standard roll economy is
>>547564646Get a trip so we can filter your pathetic shitposter ass.
>>547564726tell me more about your filters anonmake sure you post a pic of everything you have filtered
>>547564574But I want them now.
>>547564771Seriously man. Please find a hobby. You are literally making up scenarios in your head and shouting to the world that if they should come to pass it will mean someone lied. Regardless of whether you are doing it in a vain attempt to incite a panic or you genuinely feel this way, it isn't healthy behavior.
What's the deal with that anon that acts like he's married to czn There's other games to play, stop getting mad at everyone's for giving the game some criticism
>>547564726>AIEEE SAVE ME FILTER SAMA I'M GETTING CALLED A RETARDED NIGGER ON 4CHAN
>>547564923Samefagging this obviously posing as another anon to sway thread opinion isn't ever going to work out in your favor. You're nothing but a worthless shitposter.
>>547564923>What's the deal with that anon that acts like he's married to cznThis but the fag who defends the nigger (dawei)
>>547564895The one with the unhealthy behavior is you bro, please take a break from the general, there's better things to do
What the hell are you fags talking about now
>>547565006>absolutely seething
>>547564984Meds pls and genuinely
What level should i leave my supports (Like Mika) at so i dont brick myself with mats? I just promoted her but left her at level 40. Game keeps telling me to level her up before every match >:(
>>54756509450, promote them if you really want to unlock the last potential node like Cassius but levelling them takes 1m gold currently and 200 gold exp cards even after the cost reduction that they're planning.
>>547565051about how cool you are mancan you please share your super cool filters
so like long-term. if you're autisming save data it's obviously correct to run zero level 8 and remove all non-basics from the characters you're not building, so that all epis and copies hit your target. is there any way for the game to fix this?
>>547565051UUUH HELLO?!??!?!BASED DEPARTMENT??!?!?!IS THAT THE FILTERGOD COMING RIGHT BACK AT YA?!?!?AGAIN?!?!?!?!HOOOOOOOOOLLLYYYYYYYYYY MOTHERFUCKING BASEEDD FILTERGOD GOD OF FILTERS FILTERING THE SHITPOPSTERS AND SCHIZOS AT THE SAME TIMEBTFOTHEY WILL N E V E R RECOVER FROM THIS HOLY FUARKING BASSEDDDDD WE KNEEELL FILTERGOD GOD OF THE FILTERSOUR KNEES THEY ARE BUCKLING ON THEIR OWNNNN!!!!!!!!
>>547565243yesmake it impossible to finish the run unless you have a properly built teamby putting in mandatory dps checks
>>547565243Why would it? The system works plus you'll eventually run out of cards to proc epipis on.
>>547565243If anything they should make all of this easier, the game is too grindy >>547565281Wtf
Just found out exactly how "on draw" abilities work with "Move" cardsMoving from draw piles counts as drawingMoving from graveyard/used piles doesn't count as drawingI was wondering why Mei Lin's move unity sometimes proc this only once or twice or just doesn't at all
>>547562257Because he's a retarded shitposter.
>>547565550It's why Yuki's pretty good with this card, she forces a reshuffle if she has no more attack cards in deck.
>>547565550>>547565759If you run out of specific cards to draw (e.g. Mei Lin's punches with Draw-type Unity or Yuki's attack cards with Prepare to Subdue/rats), the game will move cards from the graveyard to the draw pile before drawing, but not from the "temporary graveyard" (the number after the "+" sign next to the graveyard), i.e. cards played/discarded in the current turn.
Yuki game
>>547565895Yeah that's Yuki's downside, she's pretty limited in how many cards you can play every turn unless you have one more Subdue over your attack card count in deck, in which case you can force reshuffle every turn while also blowing all your attack cards at the same time if you have Nia.
useless brick
Time to sleep....
>slopniggerYou don't even have the game installed on your phone AND pc, you faker
>>547566195Very useful for my dick.
cope
>>547566285...is that good?
>>547566374its a specific meme for Meilin
>>547566374It's a Mei Lin exodia deck
>>547566285reloadGOD
>>547566509How do you get 11 stacks of reload when it caps at 4?
dead generaldying game
>>547566634True
>>547566634The stella sora thread is over there.
I got homoseededWho works with Yuki for the event chaos as a team
>>547566615>he doesn't know
>>547566634I want to play but i need to wait for weekly reset otherwise i'll be burnt out and have to continue grinding after i've blown my load.Can't swap teams for another 2 weeks until the credit refund cause i'm broke and the gear rng is triggering me since i'm still stuck at 48% crit for renoa after a week of grinding.
>>547566747Tried Vero with Mika or Rei, they worked pretty well with Yuki. I'll try some runs with Nia and/or Cassius next.
>>547566762hacker
>>547566747Nia (drawing/healing)Veronica/Selena/Beryl/Rei (sub-DPS/more drawing)
I'll bake in 5 if no one's making a thread
>>547566634>>547566678It's bump limit RETARDS
The Nightmare is Ongoing...>>547567301>>547567301>>547567301
