Browsing on the Battle-Barge Edition>PTS 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/287-pts-patch-notes-11-0?>Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes>October Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/289-october-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>546864382
I desperately want SM3 to get here so we can get Necron kino.
>>547730337Let them stay with SM2 to iron out all their retarded gameplay decisions before potentially releasing SM3 with problems that could have been tested before.
>>547730337Why do people like Necrons so much?
>>547728806>>547729786Its a fun bug but it really does not matter.
>>547730436>Let them stay with SM2That ship's sailed Brother. They're already making SM3, they've said as much. Any chances of Saber learning from their mistakes in SM2 are as high as likelihood of Grigorenko letting players enjoy the game without throwing half the universe at them.
>>547730665>That ship's sailed Brother. They're already making SM3They are, but it's in pre-production instead of being actively developed. They also came out and said SM3 won't be seeing the light of day until like 2029 at the earliest. They're not even diverting people to SM3 right now iirc.
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>>547730643It makes the mm actually useful. It fires way too slow otherwise.
>>547730643It literally doubles the multi-melta’s DPS and burst damage, what are you talking about lmao
>>547731504>>547731831I feel like I am the only person here that actually plays the game.
>>547732359What are you even talking about? Explain yourself before i report your ass to the Inquisition.
>>547732359If a mechanic for a gun lets that gun fire two times every 3 seconds instead of once every 3 seconds, does that effectively double the gun’s DPS? This is a yes or no question.
>>547732359I don't play with melta since I prefer the plasma cannon.
>>547732359>>547732947>I prefer the plasma cannon>plasma cannon>plasma>cannon
>>547732359Still haven't explained your retarded statement?
>>547730337Confirmed 2009 at the earliest. They said a 4-year development window at the smallest.
>>547737093
GIVE ME TECHMARINE, I WANT TO MELEE WHILE MY AUTO-GUN HAS MY BACK.
>>5477372182029, I'm not a time traveller, just chronically demented when it comes to what I've written.
>>547737235No Telorian for you Brother. Yet....
>>547737345Telorian the Techmarine is such a fucking goofy combo. Imagine if Vanguard was called Vangelus.
I wish teh game had more mechanics like the chalice part in obeliskmakes the game more interesting I also wish you didnt have to play lethal to get more extremis
How deadly could rending talons be compared to bone swords and devourers?
is there a pic of everything that will come with the patch a few hours from now?
>>547738191Hate to disappoint you.
Space Wolves are so fucking lame.
I wonder how they'll fuck up their previous fuck up with assault's new "feature".
>"we nerfed chaos spawn rate!">still more chaos spawn than actual chaos marines
>>547740435Getting pelted to death by a storm of inferno bolters was kind of ass during the release of Lethal and Absolute when they were the only things spawning and getting revived by Sorcs.I don't know, I'd take the fucking spawns.
>>547740071If Assault's dash attack wasn't changed to a meteoric shoulder bash that's stronger than shield rush with return ability charge on the caveat you actually hit something with it, it's still dogshit.
OP pic should have been a compilation of what we'll get in the incoming updateNo one took pics or bothered with the PTS?
>>547741251Why would you do that over a jump ground pound thoughThe problem is that is has to do more damage than ground pound to be worth it, but if you do, it makes ground pound obsolete You’d have to make it do more damage than ground pound but only to 1-2 targets to make it viable and distinct
>you JUST know that retards running Sniper will buy the heroic bolt sniper rifle and then play the current weekly hard stratagem with it where there are almost no Majoris spawns and a ton of Minoris shitters
>>547742616youre god damn right i am
Is the new Heroic Heavy Bolter green? It it locked to green?
>>547742480Innately having charge back means it doesn't require a perk to be spammed. So now shit like Wings of Flame is raw value instead of a necessity.
>>547730643>>547732359I won't let your dumbass get away. Explain your reasoning or admit you're retarded.
I'm worried Brothers. Worried that there's going to be influx of new (or even old) bugs. Each time they roll out a new update there has to be a hotfix soon after to alleviate some of the problems. Where's their QA dammit?
>>547748002QA probably has like 500+ bugs logged at any given time and management chooses to go live anyway because they want to hit their milestonesAll bugs rated lower than critical by some project lead will be allowed in and can be fixed later, or not at allQA is an unthankful job even if you do everything right you still get blamed for the bad decisions of your higher ups
>>547748872I personally do blame their upper management (pic somewhat related). Them and that nimrod Grigorenko the game director. Dude's so full of himself in his quest to sekirofy/soulsfy SM2 that he'll do anything to do get there. I wouldn't be surprised if any bug that appears is just treated as "gaming experience".If you say X is bad and needs fixing they'll mess up Y and Z to boot in some way. Same shit's with Tarkov (am I glad I dropped out before the wiggle debacle).Russian devs are vile and overall spiteful towards their communities.
>>547749705>Russian are vile and overall spiteful towards humanityftfy
>>547749705Sekiroifying the game to give us the current block weapon mechanics has been the single best thing to happen to this game thoueverist…
>>547749705Russians unfortunately have the genetic code of south Asian brownoids buried deep within them thanks to the extensive border over Kazakhstan. This is a fact. They're the most brownoid of all whites, and with that desert monkey DNA comes the vicious spite that infests that part of the world.
My first purchase with my 1000 points?>Stock MKVII>Clean Black Templar helmet>Veteran Bolt Shoulder>Cloak shoulders (both)
how many bings and bongs until the update?
>>5477515138 hours 19 minutes.
>>547751395Based cosmetic chad.
Man, think of the data mines we'll get out of this patch.We might actually get to see what techmarine looks likes.
>>547753585Yeah, I imagine we'll finally get a proper look in this one, and a new wave of Heroics to peak at too.
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>>547753585>>547753806Hope mission dialogue anon has a peak to see if Techmarine finally has his blurbs in existing missions.
Just played this game for an hour,what did I think of SM2?
>>547756051You're questioning your sexuality.
My ass is heavy.
What Class did you think was ass on release but eventually became one of your favorites?
I wonder what they will do with the heroic meltas. >>547757540Vanguard as of patch 11.
>>547757540Tactical I thought it was shit because he dies to fast and he has 4 bolters that all feel like total ass to start withOnce I discovered auspex quick kills on bosses I changed my mind
>>547757540Bulwark was boring right up until he got Shield Rush and now he's fucking GOATed.
>>547759167I would play Bulkwark so much more if I didn’t have to double tap the parry button to parry Also because he’s the designated “please carry me” shitter class in pubs
>>547759969You mean he carries shutters, right? He's expected to just be people's get out of jail card for being shit thanks to banner heal.
>>547760402>BROTHERS, I REQUIRE A TORQUE WRENCH TO INSTALL THESE SHUTTERS
they really need to add the option to talk between loading screenstext chat is important for higher difficulty just to dscuss a strat
>>547760402No I mean that most shit players I meet in Absolute+ play Bulwark because it’s the class you can fuck up the most onIt’s the safety blanket class of Space Marine 2
>>547763318Gonna hard disagree on that one, since bad players don't take the good perks like Steel Within and have no idea about mechanics like the block animation cancel into dodge.
>>547763487It’s just my personal experience Whenever I have a Bulwark on my team they have the lowest damage dealt and the highest damage taken.
holy shit the stratagem hard mission are people just leaving to let the bot fill and potentially get another player to pass on the torch
I tested it outEven with Armored Advance, you cannot storm shield a helbrute plasma cannon.
I feel like the Director spawning Tyranids has gotten better at it's job ever since stratagems were added
Last mission before patch 11. Goodnight.
>>547766236You can block the regular shots, you can't block the charged shot that leaves a DOT wake behind it.
>>547770680It’s certainly bugged sometimes, I tried to block it with armored advance and full armor a few weeks ago on the Fall of Atreus hard weekly and lost all my armor and half my health for the trouble Yes, I mean the regular four-piece shots, not the charged one
>>547770680What the other anon said. I tested the storm shield against every projectile a couple months back and neither uncharged and charged plasma cannon shots were blockable by the storm shield.>>547772593>sometimesSo you're saying you could actually block it sometimes?
>>547730337>phasing regenerating automatons with the best ranged shit in the settingIt will be thousand sons all over again, but worse
I crave a bloodbath
How long until the update?
>>5477776183 hours then you can download
>>547775849The monkey’s paw will curl and Saber will make Necrons unbearable to fight You’ll fuck up a single dodge against a basic Majoris and lose 75% of your HP
>>547777962Nah the disintegration stuff should be the faction debuff.Tyranids cloud your sight and slow you down while Chaos gives you a visual debuff.Necrons should just take a percentage of your health and/or flat out kill you if you're below the threshold.
>>547777962>You’ll fuck up a single dodge against a basic Majoris and lose 75% of your HPThis is already how it is right now.
>>54777761810am CET, so 3 hours 32 minutes.
>>547778895Yeah except instead of just sniper ranged Warriors it’ll be the entire faction
>>547781313You forget the tentacle spawns and their 75% love slaps?
>>547782663the succ and aoe are more egregious
>doesn't react to getting repeatedly shot in the face by .75 calibre rocket-propelled rounds and starts doing gay ballerina twirls and leapsWhy doesn't the automatic rocket launcher cause stagger on consecutive headshots? Why is the signature weapon of this game's namesake not allowed to feel powerful? Why is there such a dramatic gap in ease of use between the automatic bolters and the other primaries Tactical has access to? Like fuck even the pyreblaster causes stagger after enough sustained damage and that thing is so easy to use a retarded toddler could manage it.
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>>547783931I hate that whip warriors are programmed to act like ranged warriors instead of bonesword warriors when they get shot at
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>>547785792I hate that bonesword warriors create a giant invisible shield that protects parts of their body their boneswords are clearly not covering.
GODDAMNthe mission this week is genuine cancerAlright what should I buy?
50% damage boost! Nice work team, assault has been successfully gigabuffed. Now for tactical, which really needs some more power. What do we recon for it?Patch notes, btwhttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0
>>547787524>stimms boost damage by 25%>Assault's silly jump pack dash attack now deals 50% more damageIs the latter worth it after the damage boost?>Heroic Heavy Bolt Pistol immediately executes reinforcement calling enemiesAwesome>Heroic Thunder Hammer also makes a shock grenade AOE on ground poundActually cool>Heroic Power fist light attack damage boosted by 200%Will this be enough?
>>547787684>>Heroic Power fist light attack damage boosted by 200%>Will this be enough?Good question, I'd like someone with the actual numbers to check how much it deals now. If it hits as hard as a shoulder bash or thereabouts it should be enough.>>Assault's silly jump pack dash attack now deals 50% more damage>Is the latter worth it after the damage boost?Lmao no, it isn't going to be worth using until it either doesn't cost as much as a full ground pound or outperforms ground pound for damage (meaning it'd need to one-shot entire packs of majoris to be worth ever using)The heroic HB making him get fencing parrying is insane btw, if it wasn't a mandatory upgrade from regular HB before it sure is now.
>>547787524>Inherent buffs to TacticalI can't tell if the abilities will be all related to mobility or something built into their unique class ability. Wouldn't turning his auspex-on-parry into an inherent perk fulfill the latter?
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>>547787684>>547787903I didn't play the PTS, was the 50% less charged damage always there?
>>547788224There was a charged attack penalty, but I'm not sure if it was always 50% or if it used to be 25%.
>>547788224I think so.The current Power Fist is so entirely dependent on charge attacks to even function so I guess they wanted to make a version with on the completely opposite end of the spectrum to use its light attacks.
> For too long, Vanguard's role was to be a vessel for the squad's healing perks.Dmitry calm the fuck down, you haven't even finished nerfing the bulwark yet
Patch notes for 11.0 are out:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0
>>547788648My bad, sorry for doubling >>547787524.
>>547788730You are NOT forgiven.
>>547788976a friend of mine wants to know if this is a female cat. thank you in advance.
I'm actually shocked that they haven't added the Chaos Marine sets to all gamemodes. It's the most autistic thing ever, despite the readability I sincerely doubt it would make a difference or anyone would care.
>wow sniper is about to be really fun->nevermind
>>547789613So what is it good for now then?
>>547789613Monkey paw'd before making it to the big leaguesFuck Saber and these vatniks
>>547789673embarrassing you after you miss 8 consecutive headshots and can't find any ammo
>>547789613I've come to the conclusion that this thing is comically good against tyranids and comically bad against chaos.
Now that his dlc is out you WILL buy it, right anon?
Will the draped heroic pauldrons even be customizable for color consistency?
>>547789613They also nerfed the heroic heavy bolter without mentioning it in the patch notes.Accuracy 1 instead of 4. Also DoA.
>>547790405Also look at this description discrepancy. I'm assuming the patch notes text is the correct one here, and that the description is about to make a lot of people very disappointed when they find out their new heroic purchase does not, in fact, one-shot everything.
lol
>>547789613Not bothering to even update. Fuck you Saber and fuck this game.
>>547790405>>547789613>>547790694what the fuck saber
>>547790962NOFUNALLOWED
>>547790962no refunds!
>>547789613
>>547789613>>547790405>>547790694HAHAHAHAHAHAHASorry that whole patch 11 thing didn't work out patch 12 will save us trust the plan lmao
>>547789613What a colossal disappointment. I know they were struggling to balance the game but this is just retarded.They should just tell people that the gear is meant for Average difficulty and be done with it.
>>547790405they also decided to shave a bit off the top of the bolt pistol base damage increase
Of course the squad cohesion mechanic is not a lot of fun either, terminus spawns really aren't built for it to workTrying to stay grouped up against a big enemy that constantly forces you to move while the game also throws extremis enemies at you that ALSO may be zoners is just not how the game is meant to function
>>547791790you mean clumping up in a game where literally every enemy has gigantic cleaving attacks is a bad idea and a mechanic that forces you to do that is bad?no way
Really want to get death's grasp but I still dont have the stupid double edged chain saw swordthoughts on which one I should buy?
>>547792761The chainsword sucks because it's balance and it's so goddamn slow. The gimmick is useless.
>>547791790Obviously it's not meant for the current game. The same goes for bolter weapons - no stagger on consecutive headshots from mini explosives auto launchers? Come on now....This game has to be redesigned pronto.
>>547792761Chainsword deals good damage at this point, it's a nice alternativeI'll have to wait until I hear the numbers on the power fist's light attacks to know if it's any good
>>547792921I'll let you know how it goes.
Map is huge, double Trygon is the easiest Tyroneid boss fight, idiots will get filtered with the letter puzzle section.Slow ass niggas who won't run to the Thunderhawk after the boss fight deserve to get kicked.Also the heroic Heavy bolter is mid.
>>547793612>who won't run to the Thunderhawk after the boss fight deserve to get kicked.do you fail the mission if anyone doesn't make it in time or do you just get the bad ending?
You can earn some good boi points Brothers. Saber's too kind to us.
>>547794439>Saber's too kind to ushey, at least it's not requisition. labor of love my ass.
>>547790172AYO WHERE DA SISTAS AH BATTLE AT?
>>547794439>laughing in my 99k accoladesSure thing Saber. I'm not going to grind my ass off doing stratagems to unlock your blue doritos. Fun fact: if you have 99999 accolades and spend for instance 400 points you're left with 99599, which further goes to show these fucks artificially cap the points so you can farm them even if you wanted to.Screw those ruskies.
>>547794850How do you have 99999 accolades? I thought it defaults to 1000
It's funny but the ammo efficiency makes this thing borderline unusable with how twitchy enemies are in this game.Someone needs to tell "sidegrade" doesn't mean "mediocre meme weapon".
>>547794992I modified the value before patch dropped. And it doesn't default to 1000 unless you successfully complete a stratagem mission. Only then does it reset to its cap. Otherwise whatever you set above 1k naturally depletes as I described without dropping to the artificial cape.Same goes for requisition points btw, but it'd be pointless not to play ops so I have them maxed out at 2k most of the time either way.
>>547794850based, if they don't respect your time you're not obligated to follow predefined progression path
The heroic heavy bolter is fucking trash.
Good to know devs always have players enjoyment on their minds with the patch being so lackluster. I suppose we're waiting for a community update and 12.0 now, eh? Fantastic!>>547795191Big dick Techmarine at work I see. Good for you Brother!
>>547795772hello, is this Dead Niggers Storage 2 General?
>>547796568That's right. Are you calling about an already deceased one or would you like to submit another?
I want to buy the heroic heavy pistol because it looks cool even though I know its effect is terrible. Buffing gunstrikes at the last minute is nice but the thing's ammo economy is still a nightmare. But it looks cool.
>Woke up>Read notes>Sanctified Wrath charges increased from 1 to 2Oh wow we're off to a great fucking start. This addresses literally nothing about why the item is bad.
>>547796754>that pickek wtf
>Assault jump pack dash attack damage increased by 50%>That's the change>That's actually the fucking change they made after the Focus Forums, Reddit, the Steam community hub and this place collectively blew up on how shit the new attack is>"The attack does no damage, literally takes 2 charges of your ability to take off O1 (ONE) block on the lock wheel HP meter of an Warrior, so we upped the damage by 50%, now 2 charges take off 1.5 blocks ooooh so strong"This is a fucking shitpost someone would have made on what Saber would do as a sick joke, instead of an actual fix, holy shit.
>heroic bolt sniper rifle does not replenish ammo from perks>heroic heavy bolter got nerfed with accuracyholy fuck please ukraine bomb saber hq
okay, i guess i'll just spend the accolades on cosmetics then
the double trygon fight is easy, only need to focus fire on onethe puzzles are stupid and there's a neurothrope/carnifex spawn in there
>>547799131>double trygon
>>547798827The Heroic Instigator is the only weapon that made it through without same insane retard change, that's worth buying.
>>547799131Coming off the back to back bullet sponges that was the Trygon and Vortex Beast to getting a double boss that arguably falls over is. Well, idk what Saber is smoking. It feels so out of character for them.
Watch, Tactical and Vanguard are going to get quality gameplay changes in Patch 13 that only further emphasizes Saber does not have a fucking clue about what to do with Assault.
>stratagem nerfs assault>people pick assault anywaysDo they not read, are they stupid, or stubborn, or what?
>new operation>level 9 assault sanguinary guardfuck these niggers, there should be a level filter toggle
>>547801349>saber buffs assault>a nigger complains that people pick assaultdo you not read, are you stupid, or stubborn, or what?
>bought phaseblade and daggers 3 days ago because didn't want to accidentally cap accoladesi stopped paying attention to this game's news because the grind was so fucking boring
>nerfed bolt sniper for no reasonI genuinely hope you niggers get drafted and drone bombed. What an utterly fucking inept and useless race of "people".
Unmentioned change: They've removed all Ultramarines logos from all purity seals across the board.
>>547801907Saber buffed assault?
>>547803093I seriously hope this isn't a mistake on their part.
>>547803347It's been replaced by a skull that's decently fitting, so definitely intentionally. I think this is actually a damn highlight considering the ass backwards changes elsewhere.
>assaults new jetpack attack>change from pts>Jump Dash attacks deal 50% more damageSo is this worth using? I'm guessing not if it still consumes a charge to use
>>547803440Yeah, it's nice to have at least that. Thanks for bringing it up brother.
>>547803652No.For context, in the PTS it took two dash attacks to chunk 1/3rd of a Warrior's HP on Absolute. As in combined, collectively, both charges. Now it does 50% of a Warrior's HP.It's the most disgustingly insulting change in the entire patch.
>>547803938>bulwark gets a FREE attack that can be used regardless of whatever perks you use>assault has to use up three fucking perks to make his attack consistent>first column competes with two of his best perkslollmao even
>>547803093>take time to finally clean up your marines and unequip every purity seal because people here seem to be extremely anal about them>saber takes time to finally clean up ultramarine symbols from purity seals the following weekffff
>>547804338Also even if using wings of flame to make use of it you have to hope you're not going to be hitting the target in front of you with it because youre going to dash away from them. Assault is so scuffed lmao.
>>547804368>Here at Saber we value quality and painstakingly craft our models!
>>547802992but it's a sick headshot multiplier just don't miss
Its clear to me that these ziggers are getting actual content from some higher power and they are just a QA farm that is somehow worse than India.
>Prior to Patch 11, there was mention Assault's dash attacks weren't visually finished and still needed animations>Patch 11 drops>Looks exactly the same as it does in the PTS, you just dash into the first chain of a light attackOkay? So it doesn't even look good, it's both jarring AND shit.
>trials got reset on every classEvery patchnew bugs
>>547806157They are actually just shit posting at this point.
Squad unity is a horrible modifier, you're at the mercy of your teammates because all healing and armor regeneration is completely disabled if they both die. It's almost as bad as great responsibility.
I already know the answer but im gonna ask anyways. Is the heroic fist any good after the changes. 200% of nothing is still nothing but its something I guess.
They've broken the order of all decals and colors, it's impossible to find anything now. You've got stuff released last year mixed with the Salamanders stuff at the bottom.
>>547809319>spend 30 seconds smacking one warrior to put him into execute with "stronger" light attacks or spend three seconds charging a heavy with an actually decent fist to put infinite warriors into execute at onceIt's trash.The heavy bolter is trash.The bolt sniper is a meme.
The reclamation daily was so fucking bad that I'm not even going to try the weekly.
Chaos spawn are fucking gay.
>assault>blood angel champ>power axe/sword(block)>inferno pistolI can die to zoans happy now
What's the blue currency and how do I get it?
>>547811701Stratagem mode.
>>547811701Stratagems. They're regular operations but with modifiers to make them spicy. Some are harder than others.
>>547811915>>547812041Oh, I've only been playing pvp. Feels kind of shitty that stuff is locked away from me because I don't like pve
Vatnik faggot nigger fucking retards
Balanced is fucking gay they need to get rid of it.>parry the whip nidder combo>cant perfect parry because minoris attacking at the same time are causing the non perfect parry where you just block the attack to go off
>new patch>chaos spawns are as niggery as ever
I know all Russians are faggots but this is a bit on the nose.
why the fuck am i not seeing the blood angel's champion for assault?
>>547816729Because it's for Tactical. You just get the parts for Assault. They're shit though when not part of the set.
Yay another stratagem I will not be taking part in.
For people who missed it. Heroic Thunder Hammer is actually pretty good on Assault now.
>>547818837Yeah but the Bulwark has the advantage with it because of the shock damage amp.But I doubt it's worth taking the hammer over the storm shield.
I'm having fun
>>547820012Same. I'm actually relieved the new heroic weapons kind of suck, I don't feel as much pressure to get Accolades as fast as possible.
>>547821289The new sniper rifle is alright against tyranids. Really good if you don't like zoanthropes.
I bought two helmets and the hammer.I take it only the instigator and bolt pistol are the only good choices left now? Did anyone test the power fist yet?
>Try to join game>They failed or something before or just as I joined and could load in>Kicked back to ship>Try to find new game>Have to go back to menu because the game finder shits itself every time this happens
>Forgot to use cheats to stack accolades before patch>Have to actually grind shit stratagemsUpdate the fucking trainer ffs.
This strategem was fucking absurd. It felt like I was fighting a constant horde the entire way through.
>>547822854>helbrute on first area>multiple anus heads>5 terminators spawn>mfw
So they buffed the shit out of the Vanguard kick and the perks associated with its damage beyond the first signature's ability to auto-execute.Is it worth running both or is it back to the 5% heal? Or is the ability to just immediately execute a low health extremis enemy still the better option because of the refresh?
>>547736032That's how it used to be called before GW went all retarded with trademarks. I still call it that. There's also the Flamer, the Heavy Flamer and those space elf dudes are Eldar.
>>547750034This.
>>547789163It's either a female or a neutered male, since there's no balls.
>>547824625Most annoying part is my mate getting into 40k because of SM2 and being utterly confused when I use old terminology.
>>547798519Unfortunately, saber ran away to Uzbekistan, or one of the other -stans, forgot which one, so Ukraine can't bomb them.
>>547824597Can one shot thropes with the kick now
>>547806386You can get requisition from completing them again!
Leak with Techmarine's trials. So far this is the only addition compared to PTS leaks.
>>547827304>activate bothHow many sentry turrets can the techmarine even deploy? Are they built into the map or is that his ability?
>1) Something we should have done long time ago>2) Something we said we are going to do, but nobody noticed>3) Something we said we are never going to doSo what the fuck were these in the end?
>>547827572Modular chaos customization?
>>547827572Make friends
>>547827386Two, as far as I can tell. Another prevailing theory is that once Techmarine's on the map there will be sentries spread throughout its layout and you'll be activating them.
>>547827572>1) Something we should have done long time agogive everyone false hopes and then crush them.>2) Something we said we are going to do, but nobody noticedAvoid making the game fun, probably.>3) Something we said we are never going to doAdd something nobody likes.
>>547828614>one nigger leaves>a techmarine joins>a deactivated turrent spawns under you so you can't move>you die
qrd on the update?
How do I customise my bots? Do they just use the last loadout I had selected?
>>547811224ok Dante
so why the fuck don't they buff Assault's team perk?
>>547829803My theory is assault is paying a permanent mobility tax and the retards making the game MASSIVELY overvalue it.
is bot customization cosmetics only?
>>547829191You don't get it! This is just Tzeentch fucking with you through warp shenanigans.It's stylistically designed to be that way. Hopefully it'll work...
where are the double xp events at...
they butchered my dark kraken emblem
why the fuck does it take like half an hour to apply a 7gb patch
>>547832270It took about 10-15 seconds on my machine. Are you using HDD?
You can now paint Storm Shields separately - neat!So that makes two worthwhile changes in this patch.
>>547816839You also can't change the color of the eyes from red.Least customizable champion set they've added to date.
>if all your teammates are dead then you're not regaining CHP or armor ever until they come backI forget if it was like this during Lethal release.
i REALLY hope they give us the cog shoulders for iron hands
They added cohesion back but not the meter?
>BA champions parts doesn't look good with red at allepic simply epic
>>547830476It just grabs whatever you have set up for that class. It isn't actually any real "customization"
>>547835109>it's the "the paintable object has a separate material effect on it that modifies the color you apply, so it doesn't match anything and the color always looks wrong" mistake againsven...please...
>>547833638>>547835109It took them 2+ months to arrive at that? Who's left working there because it's not even a skeleton crew. It has to be a janitor or another cleaning lady moonlighting as junior dev who's doing all the work while the rest fucked off to Sri Lanka to work on SM3...
>>547835180but like does it use the higher rarity weapon or just the skin?
>>547835526I did a run of Reclamation to test, and I don't use the ABR on Tactical or Knife on Vanguard, but the game still gave them the grey versions of those weapons. You're expecting the bare minimum of Saber and you should know by now that they can't even hit that
>>547833954why is it i can never find any kind of infographics whatsoever on the heraldry of all the legions? i'd really like to make my dudes accurate...
>>547835886If "40k [chapter] heraldry" is SOMEHOW giving you 0 results at all, go to an optometrist and then go to Lexicanum or Fandom
>>547835886most founding chapters have their heraldry listed online, and some of the successor chapters.
The new power fist looks very iron handsy with the massive rivets and plates.though most of the other artifact weapons are deathguard 14th legion for some reason.
I thought for sure the chucklefuck devs would somehow have the shock grenade effect from the Heroic Hammer damage me but it actually doesn't.
Also this melee damage boost stimm needs to last way longer, otherwise you lose the effects after a single execution.
>>547838928every video ive seen on the new equipment during PTR said it was shit and needs buffing so idk why devs didnt buff it.
>>547835886Because GW tears them down on official channels because of "piracy". They're still out there, of course, it's just a picture and GW is retarded.Also, the more esoteric chapters might not have full heraldry guides. A lot of it is vague specifically so you can paint (Your dudes) however you want.
>>547839065They did buff it kek>20% damage boost to 25%
>>547839065because they do not give a fuck about your feedbackthe only person that reads feedback is their tranny community manager
kino, absolute kino. God i wish we could play chaos in pve
Where my Snakes at?
New heroic fist is kino as shit, kills rubric marines in 4 blows on normal operations, which probably means it will get nerfed soon
>>547841861I only have 350 points left, wondering if I should get the Heavy Bolt Pistol or the Fist.
To the guy who said Talasa was going to die in Reclaimation, I told you so.
>>547842561What was the conversation?
>>547842528Probably the heroic fist isnt better than the charge attack versions if you know how to line up the power waves but honestly i dont give a fuck i want to smack things with light attacks and ive wanted to do it from day one and i don’t like the charge playstyle
>>547842848People were saying Talasa was going to die in reclamation based off of leaked dialogue.
I am so fucking furiously angry. Another fucking patch fucked up. Fuck these goddamn fucking retards.
>>547843310They should have realized there are two ending dialogue strings then. One where you make it out and one where you don't.Inferno has fail dialogue when you let the generator explode or if you don't detonate the promethium in time.IIRC letting the train explode in Ballistic has Acheran shouting at you too.
>>547843640Yeah you and me both bro.
>>547841042Yeah.
I'll submit this MM to the wall.
>>547838787That's good. I've had the shock grenade effect that drops when you lose all armor damage me a few times.
I'll submit this AL too.
>>547845549Scratch that.I want the glove on capeside.
This is all I ever wanted.
>>547846381basednow if only we could get mk VII legs
>>547846123Haven't seen AL posted here in a while, openly that is.Hydra Dominatus!
Time to bash my head against the weekly hoping for one run where nothing fucks me for an instant loss
>assaults only change in this update was the complete joke of a dash attack>meanwhile vanguard can now oneshot extremis with his grapple, along with receiving multiple other quality of life buffs>devs already talking about class updates for tactical and vanguard as if the dash attack for assault is some huge game changer like bulwark shield buffSeriously what the fuck is wrong with them? Like the buffs for every other class are occasionally well thought out. Why do they hate assault so much?
Kek at the new gong sound for blocks. Also holy shit the game runs really bad now.
>Heroic sniper rifle comes out prenerfedAre you actually fucking kidding me?!
>>547849123Saber don't nerf. They fix fun generating things. All under Tov. Grigorienko's watchful eye.
>>547849123Pidor you dont understand the heroic weapons are meant to be worse than their relic counterparts. Heroic Bolt Sniper was almost as good as fire rate las fusil so we had to make it shit.
>Major update>Adds less cosmetics than mods have>Adds six new weapons, nerfed into the ground and again not better than the base versions >New map and boss, but its piss easy and very samey to everything else we got>PvP updates which is dead and never should have been in the game >A bunch of class changes that still do not balance the classes, not even close In may ways the update cycle of SM2 has saved me from any disappointment for SM3 I know in advance it will be bad.
>>547849385>Grigorienkowho is this vatnik anons keep on mentioning? I understand he's the game director but does it mean he hes the final say over what gets changed (nerfed) etc.?
>>547850479yes
>>547850557Fucking hell. This is downright malicious and torpedoing the game at its core. I mean what does it take to get him fired? A massive wave of negative reviews the levels of which are only comparable with Helldivers 2 review bombing back last year?
So all of Phaedrus died but the squad leaders for Octavio and Heraton made it out. Glad it wasn't a complete wipe three squad wipe.
>>547848472It doesn't even do enough damage to one shot minoris. Meanwhile my ground pound can one shot an entire group of majors. It's not even 1/20 as good as the bulwark ability. I hate these retarded slavs so much.
>>547844950nice! i also made a cool looking emperors children vanguard.
>>547851046>I mean what does it take to get him fired?draft papers. people in lead positions rarely ever get fired or leave unless they do something really dramatic like fuck their CEO's wife or steal company funds
Honestly the operation and Death's Grip are the best things of this update.
>>547851392That actually looks pretty fucking good.
>>547851742Grasp*
>>547851751yeh we can also do word bearers now with the crest from one of the salamander successors ( im not buying the season pass until we get iron hands stuff)pic taken from reddit
new cosmetics are probably the best thing about this update
>>547852097Fuck, that's actually amazing.
>>547851392>>547852097It's bullshit they'll just remain in the husk of PvP.
>>547852794Too bad its not in the only game mode people actually play.
>>547853173Helbrute mode is pretty fun
>>547852794>>547853173And to think. PvP in SM2 could have been invasions. Where beating the chaos players who invaded your world (once only) gave you 2x match rewards.
>>547854164goddamn that would have been cool, but how would they have fit that into the game? especially at Lethal with 3 extremis enemies can pop up.Like yeah if the invader or invaders take down a squad it would just checkpoint reset but still
>>547832523You always could...
>>547854164The Operations maps are too poorly designed to accommodate any kind of PVP.
I thoroughly regret getting the hero heavy bolter. This thing sucjs
>>547854530>but how would they have fit that into the game? especially at Lethal with 3 extremis enemies can pop up.Once the Chaos players spawn in, it reduces other enemy spawns, and like bosses you can't proceed until they're (or you're) dead. And I think even though sometimes they would murder you and fail your run the 2x to all rewards would justify that. >>547855229Obviously from day 1 the idea should have been design the maps with PvP areas you run through that sometimes cause players to spawn in.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed but they changed all the ultramarine heraldry on purity seals into generic skulls. Probably my favorite part of this update desu
>>547854691The only way I found to do it previously was to use general color scheme match what I wanted on the shield, and then set everything else to the actual color scheme I wanted on the armour. I only now noticed that the storm shield can be colored as "wargear", since one of my shields changed color from how I remember it looked before the patch.
>>547846975A full suit of mk 7 or 6 would be awesome.
>>547855504True sons of Ultramar don't care.
>>547848756I noticed my frames would drop to like 40 in the armory. Never had that happen before.
>absolute reclaimation bosses fall over to tactical with a pyrei'm not even upset, i'm glad it's not aids
>>547852097Blood Angel red might be that particular red in that image but I just made my own attempt and I think Khorne red fits the washed out red the Word Bearers have on right now. I'll post some additions to the wall later.I also did not buy Salamanders for that proper iconography but oh well.
>>547852454Nigga i just played with you in the new map.
>>547855597Yeah, you could be smaller so enemies would have a harder time shooting at you.
The heroic heavy bolt pistol is fucking terrible. The perk thing is about being able to hit enemies calling in reinforcements and it struggles to hit anything, even if it's right in front of you. Do the devs even play their game?
>>547857657No, they don't.
>>547852454>Beakie with laurelsSay psych right now, I'm gonna update
>>547857657>Do the devs even play their game?Why would they? They have statistics that tells them everything!
>>547852454Raven Guard is gay and Corax is a mutant retard.
>>547858217Thats a Retributor
I can't believe that its been months and people still don't know how the Obelisk floating islands work especially if forked on the "B" path.
Multi Melta is unusable now.
>>547858495I just went back to using hero plasma or pyre. I'll miss it for sure, but c'est la vie.
>Chaos mission>Tactical with Pyreblaster
>wrapped bolt sniper barely made sniper feel like he was worth playing over much easier to play classes>saber: woah, wait a second, we can't have that!>sniper now still firmly the worst class in the gamel m a o
>>547859045Yes? And?
>>547853031im living on the copium that they will eventually let us play chaos in horde mode atleast
>>547859449Stop missing shots, shitter.
>Heroic bolt sniper can't ammo regen with the Sniper's Perk>Heroic heavy bolter has nerfed accuracy (from 4 to 1)
>>547859723Would be cool if they added a chaos vs loyalist siege mode.>Astra Militarum minoris >Generic Spess muhreen majoris>Special marine extremis>Dreadnought terminus
Where did that event to give us 200 accolades on clearing the new mission goI was hoping to use them to go full melee meme setup with sniper using heroic bolt sniper, heroic heavy bolt pistol, and heroic knife
>>547859823The nerf to accuracy makes the heavy almost unusable.
>>547860258It's useable for noobs or for people who don't want to deal with Balanced.The Duellist perk turns it into Fencing and instantly cools the gun.I'd still take the good ole venting version, hopefully Steam discussions is a dumpster fire over these nerfs that they revert these changes in a hotfix or patch.
>New updateOh cool what fun new things are there to try!>Nothing they nerfed it all Welp! back to helldivers
Holy fucking shit literally no one is doing the basic stratagem missionswhy didnt they just merge this into the operation quickplay list?
>>547856413nice, the last stand part during the boss was epic
>Arbitrary 6 shots>Nerf ammo regenWelp, shant be playing this patch.
>>547861238Is that game fun? I want to try it but I'm afraid to get yelled at by the vets for not knowing anything.
>>547861628JustDon't Miss
>>547860103hopefully but even that would take some work for the devs
>>547861419Why should people play dailies? You only get paltry accolades.If they want people to play the dailies give it 50 accolades each.
>>547851392Too bad he'll still be shouting like a World Eater.
Do I really need to finish the campaign before jumping online? this feels nothing like SM1, feels like a glorified SP tutorial
>>54786193820 is more reasonable. 50 is a bit much for normals.
>>547857657>introduce a garbage heroic HBP in the update that makes it obsolete due to the buffs the regular bolt pistol gotIt's like they're angry at the HBP for being the superior option for so long.
>>547862052Are you playing on Angel?
>>547861660Yeah very fun. And it isn't that deep no one is using voice chat or even text chat usually because its not necessary. D10 which is the hardest difficulty is still a challenge for most random groups of people but no one cares that much because progression unlike SM2 is fast. There isn't anything magical you need to know before you play you can just play it and learn on the spot.
>>54786214650 for normals, 100 for hard, I'm not waging for anything else.
Ground pound with no perks affecting damage 171.Ground dash with no perks affecting damage 33.Both using block power fist. This shit is a fucking joke. The only, ONLY way this could be even used in a meme build is if the heroic power fist worked with it.>some more testing laterIt doesn't work with the relic power fist. In fact it does less damage (30) because it's based off the base damage of the weapon. The fucking relic does 60 damage with light attacks now actually. So a dash attack from it is pure wretched dogshit. Another side note, the perk from assault that increases damage on sprint attacks works with it raising it to 60 ish damage. But the power fist perk that increases the damage on cannon jab doesn't work with it. It's so fucking completely worthless.
>>547863191In order for Assault to be on par with Vanguard a single jump would have to give you 2 armor charges on a kill. Not to mention he would have to give the whole team some sort of heal. The disparity is beyond insane. Saber does not in any shape or form understand or play this game and its very obvious given this whole new relic tier shitshow they also won't change.
>>547863385I'm just blown away that they gave bulwark this giga OP new move that has a laundry list of effects and works with so many perks and is so safe and so high damaging.Then assault gets an attack that is literally WORSE than doing the already worthless lights attacks. Especially after the mountain of feedback they got. This shit used to do even less damage.
they really need to give the heavy a new bolt weapon or make the heavy bolter more funan autocannon that lets you choose between area of damage or penetration in the perk tree would be cool
>>547863191Oh and the relic fist with overcharge does 261.55 on a level 2 charge. Block fist does around 334. So it's not actually half damage. I have no idea how saber coded this thing.
>>547861789Or I could just use the las fusil, which can still regen ammo while having great single target damage, dead-accurate hipfire and the ability to fire into minoris hordes indefinitely. I don't understand their rationale towards balance; the las fusil is allowed to be good at everything, yet the heroic bolt sniper can't be amazing in it's highly specific niche (single target damage) without making sniper's ammo regen perk inert? It makes no sense to me.
The negative reaction to the Wrapped Bolt Sniper change is the most shitter yelp I've seen yet.>Nooooo the gun with infinite ammo IF I land my shots can't have infinite ammo at all times if I miss!
>>547863954>Side grade weaponNo one cares
>>547861660Just a warning it is very grindy at this stage with so many warbonds and the devs being very stingy with the premium currency (cause ofc they want you to buy it). If you do get the game (I still recommend and think it's worth) the Control Group warbond has a warp pack which allows you to zip in and out of bunkers solo, and there's a mod around to highlight super creds with big bright beacon arrows so you don't miss them, makes the grind a teeny bit better.
I reinstalled wwz (because apparently it got another dlc recently? no wonder sm2 keeps getting fucked up) but if you thought the extremis wavecallers spawning behind corners was bad here, the wwz variant will spawn out of bounds behind invisible, bulletproof walls or behind checkpoints that close when you go through themnot to mention how all the disabler specials have no way to get out by yourself and have to rely on teammatesat least the weapon leveling is better, just straight "number go up", no picking between ammo or damage
>>547864247Calling them "side grade" is RPG-tier itemization bullshit that this game was never meant to have. What a spastic retard that game director is. I could be even more picky and ask why heroic is placed after relic if it's a side grade? At most it should be below relic separated by a line and with its own red outline as it is now. This is what happens when you start introducing RPG into a co-op shooter. I wish they added more "depth" to skills, but they'd monkey paw that too.
>>547864578I played that when it first released and I remember liking almost everything except the New York train missions.
This game isnt even remotely as complex as Vermintide 2 which has 20 classes all with unique skill trees and abilities, and like 60 weapons all with different movesets. Saber clearly does not play their own game as they lack an understanding of even the game's most basic mechanics.
>>547863954>every other class can just mass murder everything on screen without even aiming>sniper: if I miss 8 times I might as well not be here, and even if I never miss you'll still barely be able to tell I am heretry again with the las fusil heroic, saber
Just joined a team to do my first operation, how do I not fuck things up?
>assault gets campaign jump pack>sniper's las fusil turns into SM1 lascannonwow, so fucking hard saberif anything i want to understand their mentality of nerfing the fucking shit out of everything, making things too hard, and monkeypawing the fuck out of anything they want to call a positive
what should I buy?
>>547867460Just give more ammo to the sniper, that's all it needs, the hitboxes, especially head hit boxes are so shit there's no excuse why he shouldn't be carry 60-70 shots by default.
>>547867613Heroic PlasmaHeroic InstigatorHeroic Hammer
>>547867460PvE Assault can't get the campaign jump pack. Like think real hard why he can't.
As we have been saying:>Commitment and Wings of Fire should either be one perk or inherent>The new gay dash attack should not use up a full jump pack charge>Make the prestige perk that grants you invuln on jump pack lift-off inherent too
>>547867613>s-tierplasmabolt pistol>a-tierthunderhammerheavy bolterpower sword>b-tiercombibolterchainswordinstigator>just fuck my shit uppower fistheavy bolt pistolbolt sniper riflecombat knife
>>547868575The Bolt Sniper is A-tier at minimum and only because it's mid against Chaos. Get lost with this vitriol. It still one taps every single Majoris into execute in one shot.
>>547866887heroic fusil is listed in the files as no_charge. please look forward to heroic las fusil having 10 shots and a slower fire rate than the ammo variant. but at least you wont have to wait for it to charge!
>>547868575>Gladius>Not SFucking retard, it's literally one of the best weapons in the game.>Instigator>B>Chainsword after all the changes>BYou are atrocious at this game. Thank God you're not balancing it because it'd be even worse.
>>547869292>>547870116>saber samefaggingget bombed by ukraine vatnigger
>>547870237>I am shit, therefore everybody else who calls me out is SaberYou're crying because the gun with infinite ammo IF you can actually aim, doesn't allow for a cheap copout if you can't in fact aim.
"A small number" translates to "almost every"
>>547868575>Try Heroic power fist on Bulwark>take the perk that you regain a shield on a non-lethal gunstrikethis actually flows really well. You get a gunstrike on the nearest majoris after every finisher which just always tops off you shields. I feel really sturdy.
>>547870116>it's literally one of the best weapons in the gameIt's balance so no.
>>547871489>Weapon that explicitly promotes dodging for insane damage ramps>B-but it's Balanced
>>547871757Yes.
>bot customization is client-sideprofoundabsolutely stunningtruly incrediblebravo saberbots will never get perks
>It was never our intention to make the Tactical allergic to ammo boxes and cache and we intend to change that>It's been too long for the Vanguard being a heal class and we intend to change that
>>547871291My decision of not playing shitgems gets better every single patch.
>no bro you dont get it i'm actually literally perfect at the game and never miss even a single headshot on anything despite the actual best players in the game not being able to do that
>shitters who don't know where to go inside the catacombs>shitters who don't know about the dark area capture point>shitters who can't find the broken servitor>shitters who can't align islands
>>547872537If you consistently miss headshots to the point you'd chug through all six shots and have nothing left before the next ammo crate/loadout station, I'd fucking kick you in a heartbeat.
>>547873385>no bro i'm actually perfect at the game and never miss any headshots for dozens of minutes at a time
>>547873771Yeah, actually. The odd one or two misses, yeah. Never to the point I make insane cope posts like this. How the fuck are you missing this much? Do you have Parkinsons?
>>547874252You heard it here first folks, the perfect player is in our midst; i sure hope you're going to post gameplay so we can bask in your glory of landing headshots on a spazzing lictor or leaping carnifex
>sniper ammo perk doesnt effect heroic sniperl m a o
>>547874363I simply choose not to shoot enemies I know dance around like spastics with limited ammo weaponry. You can do that, you know? Swap to your knife and Shadow Stab them instead?
>>547874518>i simply choose to not have a primary weapon for at least a third of the gameNice, i'm sure you're super useful
>>547874990Yeah actually, my stats are similar to >>547874514Once again, skill issue. If you can't kill a Lictor in record time with your knife using Shadow Stab, there are serious problems with either you or your build.
>>547875276>shadow stab a lictor dancing around in your faceThen i'm sure you'd be willing to actually post your gameplay, or even just your actual stat screen instead of going>UUUHHH ITS ACTUALLY LIKE THIS GUY'S
>>547875443>He actually can't Shadow Stab a Lictor after a parry or a stagger with an Inferno PistolJesus Christ anon this has to be bait.
>>547875774>inferno pistolSo you don't have a secondary either?
>>547875443>>547874363literally all of the good streamers who play this game abuse the hell out of knife on Sniper, what the fuck are you blabbing about nigger
>>547875917Despite my apparent ineffectual loadout according to you, I still top dog the scoreboard in every pub I'm in. But what do I know, I was just the guy saying the Stalker Bolt Rifle was one of the best weapons in the game on release, when everybody insisted ALL the bolt weapons were shit and I had no clue what I was talking about.
>>547876084>I still top dog the scoreboard in every pub I'm insure you do, which is why you've still yet to furnish any proof
>>547876441Kinda difficult to do that when I'm in work, faggot.
Haven't played since just before the Survival/Horde mode update, started a few weeks before and got most classes Prestige maxxed (minus Ass)Any notable balance changes someone could sum up for me?
>>547863954The point is their approach to balance is completely fucking haphazard. As I touched on here >>547863936 the las fusil is still allowed to be a jack of all trades with no penalty. The heroic bolt sniper, even with it's unique perk, is still a bolt sniper at the end of the day. It's efficacy against fast moving enemies with small head hitboxes like Lictors and Chaos Spawn is still gonna be shit, it can't cleave through minoris hordes and it can't reliably hit headshots while firing from the hip. The heroic sniper is extraordinarily good at one thing while ranging from mediocre to absolute shit at everything else, and I don't think being amazing in a single niche justifies a prestige perk of all things being arbitrarily invalidated whenever you use it.This change also exacerbates the issue of a lack of perk loadouts. Now every time you want to use the weapon, you have to pay 750 req to swap out the now useless perk for something else, which disincentivises players from using the weapon pods in missions for anything besides restoring your ammo because if you take another weapon you'll just feel crippled due to not having the ammo economy perk. This issue on sniper was already especially bad since if you wanted to switch from the bolt sniper to the las fusil you likely didn't have lethal efficiency selected, meaning you lose out on a massive upside of the las fusil being able to cleave through hordes without a care in the world. The fact that swapping out prestige perks even costs requisition to begin with shows that they likely don't even have plans to make perks factor into loadouts, since what are they gonna do; Tax you 750 req whenever you use a weapon pod in a mission?
>>547876710ammo restoration of any kind was a mistake tbqhwyf
>retards arguing about pro gamer skillz or lack thereof in a PVE team gameIm sure all your funkopops are watching in awe of your gameplay
>heroic sniper perk doesnt work against vortex BeastTHANKS FOR NOT FIXING THE BUG I REPORTED YOU FUCKING USELESS FUCKING NIGGERS
>>547876710See this is an actual critique. Yeah, I agree it has downsides, my point was "it's not literal F-tier garbage." It's great against Tyranids, but I'd never take it on Chaos over the Las.
>>547876630just uninstall
>>547876617>no resultsHoly shitYou genuinely work at a fucking gas station AND you have the balls to post it? You need to stop playing video games and get your life in order, son
the bots look so good with my costumes. the heroic thunder hammer is cool but i dont like non block. axe got a huge buff.
>>547877640Mate i haven't reinstalled yet.
>>547878551dont
>>547877951Anon there's no jobs here. My prospects began and ended at my location of birth and the desolation of the few trade jobs around here in the 2008 crisis. I didn't have a computer of any kind until I was 19. If I had the ability to go back in time, I'd invest in bitcoin and learn how to draw furry porn.
>take time to change out all the ultima iconography on medals and stamps>leave the one on the crux terminatusWhat kind of mental retardation is this called
>>547879474One of Tactical's chests still has it too. The one with just the red ribbon and the gold medallion connecting them.
>>547878586WHYI WANT TO KNOW WHYWHAT CHANGED
>>547880278nothing good
Honestly not worth using over even a relic bolt sniper.And the power gap between zoanthropes and ranged terminators is just comical, this is an instant kill on zoanthropes.
>>547879474Because the Crux is still technically part of the Ultramarines pack. The UM blue bolter, chainsword, and Crux shoulder come bundled together.
>>547884145You missed several headshots, not a skill issue, the weapon as a whole has serious hitbox problems against TS. Aim for the absolute top ot the head, like you're trying to skim the bullet off their scalp.
>>547885640>You missed several headshotsIf I missed headshots it wouldn't have refunded my bolts, that's eight headshot hitmarkers in a row, five on the latter terminator.
The new level is really fun and the art team really knocked it out of the park. Outside of obelisk I think they have done a consistently good job at level design.
>>547885818Hm, somethings definitely not right. You might be getting the refunded shots, but there's no way this weapon takes way longer to kill Terminators compared to even an ammo Las.
>>547886009Well it's a heroic weapon from saber so there definitely is a way.
I now see why they initially disallowed decals on this. The lore-appropriate Salamanders marking is already present on the tilting shield, so it'd be redundant to put another one on the pauldron. However, nearly every other non-Salamanders decal is too big for the shoulder and overlaps with the preexisting flaming skulls. It's best to leave this one unadorned.
>>547884145termies have higher stagger resistance than helbrutes and it will never not infuriate me
>Heavy Bot does 15k damage on normal stratwait a minute, my sniper with heroic bolt rifle got outdamaged by a fucking bot????
>>547886684Bots have zero dispersion on their ranged weapons and I'm pretty sure heavy bots don't overheat.
I love that before the meatballs were in the game the headshots and enemies died with a amount of fun thought put into them.Now i get jumped by 5-7 meatballs that all swing at random times so you can never block them properly and get pushed into a corner to get fucking raped.
>>547887379i never notice heavy bot to be this good before, i must have not paid enough attention
>Randomized every list of armors, colors, and decals>Removed the Squad Unity range indicator from the UI even though it had one last yearFire the UI lead, whoever it is, immediately. Some wildly unqualified Slav fraud out there is committing pure thievery every time he gets a paycheck. He deserves to be destitute and homeless.
Welp, you can do assault's shitty new dash attack in pvp, and it's disgusting there. It's a one shot, I think no matter what melee weapon you use.As if assault wasn't fucked up enough in pvp between the braindead groundpound spam and the orbital melta bomb drops that can one shot half a team.The low ceiling tunnels used to be an environmental weakness to assaults you could exploit to avoid their ground pounds. Now tunnels are just as much death traps as high ceiling areas.
>>547888491Yeah that dash attack is basically a stealth buff to Assault in PvPWho was hilariously ALREADY the most dominant class in that mode.
Heroic weapons are mediocre and the Salamanders set is disappointing, but this is the best Operation they've made so far.
You think the white stripe down the helm is too much for a black dragon?
>>547888491>>547888590PvE assault suffers from this
so you guys are happy with Assault now right? now we can move on to buff Tactical and Vanguard yes???
>>547827572>1) Something we should have done long time agoI'm guessing removing all the ultramarine symbols from the purity seals and replacing them with generic skulls.
>>547890605Finally, buffs for the weakest class in the game, fucking tactical. Let's just make it so any enemy within line of sight of him instantly dies.
>>547829210no fun allowed
>>547890805For too long, Tactical's role was to be a vessel for the squad's granade stockpile. With these changes, we want to reinforce the tactical support role for him.-Saber
>>547890805that reminds me, did saber not do anything to curb melta spam?
>>547892098They simply did not buff melta weapons.
>>547892098Just as powerful as before.
Literally why wouldnt you just kill yourself in a stratagem hard mission? doesnt seem like a downside if you get more health and revive
>>547887732Heavy bot is one of the only good bots for that reason.
>LE FRIENDLY FIRE>half the retards doing melee builds are dying to mid tier xenosjust end it
I dont careDeath's grasp is fucking awesome
>>547854164>thinking the vast majority of braindead gamerdads can ever pull that offMy brother in the emperor most of them fold to a single massive wave on substantial difficulty, reddit would go up in flames from their complaints
>shots will penetrate enemy block stancesDoes this stupid fucking perk even work on anything besides warriors?>what killed the first tyranid primeI don't know.
I have to say, the new mission is kinda kino
>>547896323One of the Primes bugged out on me too.
So what were the 1) Something we should have done long time ago, 2) Something we said we are going to do, but nobody noticed, 3) Something we said we are never going to do ?
>>547896615lol
>>547845214>>547846123Received.
>>547888491>>547888590lolhttps://youtu.be/leIfIKES_O0?si=cBMXz3bDsfOHMFyj
Oh, they added Red weapons to the game? How do these work?
>this week is literally Iron Within, Iron Without
>>547897912theyre intentionally worse than the oranges
>>547897912They made them bad on purpose as a joke
>>547897912They're labeled as side-grades with a specific gimmick to them while usually trading said powerful gimmick perk with some stat penalties.>Xenophase Blade is a slow balanced power sword that has a stronger and wider Power Rake>Double Chainsword lets you combo heavy attacks into another heavy attack but is a balance weapon>Heroic Heavy Bolter has shit accuracy is fencingAs of right now, the heroic thunder hammer is a straight upgrade to the regular gold fencing hammer and the heroic instigator is a 5 burst shot instead of a 3 burst.
>>547898536Ah, the Instigator actually sounds pretty good then
>>547898536This is some min-maxing shit. Are we Baldur's Gate now?
>>547898637It has a weaker headshot bonus but it's only by 0.3 iirc so it's not sacrificing too much.
>>547898693It's to promote different styles of play because I think the devs realized that there isn't much variety aside out of block/fencing purposes.Case in point, the Power Fist. Light attacks were absolutely useless because charge attacks fucking annihilated everything but the Heroic Power Fist has weaker charge attacks but 200% more light attack damage.
>>547898768Yeah but the problem is the people making the game dont play it so they have no idea what a "different playstyle" is or how any of the weapons actually work.
>>547898768The problem being a light attack power fist still sucks because you're choosing between wailing on a single warrior for half a minute or killing every warrior in front of you with one or two charged attacks. It needs to be more like 500% damage light attacks at least.
>>547896323Bulwark chunking the boss with his infinite ammo power fist faster than the Heroic sniper doing headshots. Nice!
>>547898926Saber balance moment.
That reminds me, I thought they patched out being able to power fist the Heldrake. Can you still do it?
>>547854164There's no way invasions would have worked with SM2's gameplay, and I say this as someone who loved invading in Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring.
>>547899110Hahahah the fuck is that range?
Weekly stratagems between now and end of the year, Brothers.>26 Nov. - Ballistic Engine: Mine Field - spore Mines spawn periodically and travel to players Suspicious Behaviour - friendly fire Damage from firearms and explosives is enabledMigraine - headshot kills explode the enemy, dealing Damage to other enemies >3 Dec. - Obelisk: Depleted Armour - no Armour Boosts are available, and Squad Members only have one Armour Segment Larraman Cells - health is passively restored at a slow rate We Stand as One - medicae Stimms also heal Squad Members within a 5-metre radius>10 Dec. - Termination: Split Up - when you maintain close proximity to Squad Members, Armour and Contested Health restoration are disabledMaintain Distance - melee Damage is greatly reduced, but Ranged Damage is increasedEnemy Sighted - ranged kills restore Armour based on enemy threat level >17 Dec. - Reliquary: Press the Attack - not performing a finisher for 20 seconds will start draining your Health down to 30%, but finishers restore Health Myopia - ranged damage at ranges greater than 10 metres is reduced by 75%Point Blank - ranged Damage at less than 10 metres is increased by 75%>24 Dec. - Vox Liberatis: Maintain Distance - melee Damage is greatly reduced, but Ranged Damage is increasedDetonation Risk - exploding objects are more common and much more dangerous in terms of radius and Damage Enemy Sighted - ranged kills restore Armour based on enemy threat level Buffed Enemies - enemies have increased Health and Damage
>>547899110Wtf, this isn't how power fist is supposed to work. Why the hell is a melee weapon ranged all of a sudden?
>>547899874>>547899997Tide of battle, top middle weapon perk
>the friendly fire oneholy shit what cancer1-2 retards being... retarded>Split Up - when you maintain close proximity to Squad Members, Armour and Contested Health restoration are disabledim more convinced everyday of sabre's retardation, why force lack of team cohesion in a team game
>>547896323>>547899110is this the heroic power fist?
>>547900197>holy shit what cancerHave faith brother :)
>>547900094Yeah ok but it still doesn't answer why a perk is making a power fist shooting long distance farts. No other weapon can do that and I don't think it's for the sake of 'variety'. Why not have power exe shoot some power arcs after a combo or sth?
>>547900335Did you just come back here after the update or something?
>>547900213I'm pretty sure I was using the relic block power fist in that webm.
So some of the champion skins are bugged on bots? Lmao
>>547899874>>547899997Welcome to the melee meta since well over half a year backIt's also a fantastic boss killer>>547899890Hell yeah, absolutely garbage modifiers galore. Split Up somehow sounds worse than coherency, press the attack will feel awful because just like warp storms it won't leave you alone when there are no enemies around which you can't control, and suspicious behaviour is going to be unplayable the second anyone with an AoE weapon joins your lobby.
>>547899890>friendly fire AND spore minesSweet Emperor...>ReliquaryThat seems pretty annoying, guess everyone has to gang up the heldrake's arena down the center to focus fire.>>547900335Buddy, that power fist meta build has been around since like March.
>>547899890Boy am I glad I don't have to do stratagems. Also, they should just give private mode with the option of selectable modifiers, because why not? More power to the player, but I know we're talking about Saber here, so it's unlikely.
>>547900817> suspicious behaviour is going to be unplayable the second anyone with an AoE weapon joins your lobby.its not unplayable on normal, but it is borderline>fucking xbox players obviously dont read>salamander guy fries our assault>i just spend 90% of the mission way ahead or way behind>occasionally i "steal" a kill or interact with a console and the tactical, who has spent all game frying the team, does a play fire on meborderline retarded that youre at the mercy of retards, but then im playing a sabre game so what is the fucking difference
>>547900817Damn, i was playing Fencing PSword Bulwark back before the Siege update cause it was funny, never touched the Fist, guess ill give it a try once i reinstall
>>547900618>>547900954Yep I checked out last December so I remember PF differently. Retarded change. How did devs justify it? Probably with equally moronic reasoning knowing them.
>>547901127>how did devs justify it?Because the Power Fist was unusable garbage before.
>>547901127>How did devs justify it?Pretty sure they didn'tThey just slipped it into the patch notes and it was slowly noticed that "hey, this makes the fist actually useful"
Do the Salamanders really have so few noteworthy successor chapters? Four chapters seem a bit disappointing
>>547901260True it was. Making it into a completely different weapon is borderline crazy. I mean at this point it's gotta be overperforming due to being so overtuned. I don't see any reason to pick anything EXCEPT power fist now. They went from one side of the spectrum to the other. Bravo!>>547901340>Pretty sure they didn'tChecks out. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
>>547901931The power fist has been the most powerful melee weapon by magnitudes since that change and I don't believe they've even acknowledged its existence after that.
>>547892210>not knowing what melta spam isngmi
>>547902060>meanwhile lets keep the chainsword feeling off and slower for no real reasonnone of this makes any sense at alland ofc the bolters are going to triple down as>muh headshot machinesactual genuine knuckleheads running this game
>>547902220Block chainsword is great and feels great, really no complaints with it Not as good as block fist sure but nothing really is
>>547902060>and I don't believe they've even acknowledged its existence after that.the funny thing is, saber made sure to nerf every other weapon that was remotely fun to use and had good dps, which means they have no idea that the fist is overpowered.either that, or Grigorenko doesn't play melee and the QA keep him in the dark on purpose, just to have one fun weapon for themselves.
>>547902350i meant how they needlessly nerfed the powerattacks seamlessly cancelling into light attacks
>>547902747so what exactly was the logic behind nerfing grenade launchersyeah i get them not replenishing from the tactical perk (in which case WHY have the gun if its implemented in such an OP way) but also WHY is them replenishing from caches such a big deal
>>547902747>Grigorenko doesn't play meleeI doubt he even plays the game at all which could be said about other devs I'm sure. If anything he's jacking off to Dark Souls and similar games, because they're doing everything they can to make SM2 play like it. They talk about variety in builds and weapons choice when there are pretty much no builds to speak of and weapons (with exceptions) are neutered to the ground.But it was quite telling when in some survey or forums post (iirc) they asked people if they want ranged cHP recovery to be nerfed. The disconnect between the community and this retard is colossal and nothing short of getting rid of him will change that.
>>547901340>>547901931I'd rather they don't touch it. It's the only thing that makes assault playable. Bulwark could have nothing else but his shield and still be S tier from it.
>a biovore spawns during the prime fight section where the floors are electrifiedOhh fuck offffffffffffff
Why the fuck did the weekly change already?
im not even kidding when I tell you that the stratagems are totally bullshit, the hard one is entirely RNG. Like come on is this not total bullshit? you're at the mercy of the dumbass director spawning 3 extremis and 1 mini bossMy most successful runs are the ones where the boss spawns early on and you only have to deal with extremis spam
>>547901874They are the smallest Loyalist chapter, have been since the Heresy. They weren't enough survivors for them to even make successor chapters during the 2nd Founding. When the other legions split up, the Salamanders remained together because there were so few of them.
>locking on turns your backstep into a frontstep
>>547904493it works about as well as it does in monster hunterlike total dogshitas a kbm player it happens so infrequeintly i end up end up panicking wondering what the fuck i pressed to activate it
>>547904641The only time I use it is when I want to absolutely make sure a charged attack actually goes where I want it to go and doesn't get wasted pulverising some poor minoris who wasn't even a threat.
>>547904790sounds like more of an implementation issuewhy have the move automatically arbitrarily lock onto an enemy and not the direction im pointing? do they really not know how camera and stick/wasd aiming should work in 2025? its fucking dumb
>>547902220I mean, have you played WWZ? Nothing here surprises me anymore
How are the Pyre weapons? Considering leveling and using them, but that depends entirely on if Fire dot is useful (and also if they can actually generate decent cHP)
Outside of RG and Raptors who is known for good snipers?I always use RG but i want another chapter for my sniper.
>>547905632>mole niggas
>>547905598Flamer Tac is probably one of if not the best loadouts in the game The flame keeps doing damage while you’re meleeing stuff, auspex boosts that even further
>>547905632Thousand Sons had a sniper cult
>>547905758Like I’m genuinely surprised they haven’t nerfed the pyreblaster since it came out Pyrecannon on Heavy is just kind of okay, the problem is he comparatively sucks at melee so he can’t take advantage of two streams of DPS at once like Tac can with the fire DoT and melee damage going at the same time
>>547905598Pyreblaster is an easy contender for most powerful weapon in the game currently. DoT melts shit, and if I understood everything right the DoT now gives you CHP (though that is the weapon's main weakness, that CHP recovery is a bit slow). One second of shooting sets enemies on fire in an AoE without aiming, then you can melee them for huge damage. Holding the trigger onto an auspexed terminus until it overheats and then leaving to deal with additional spawns is usually enough to watch the thing slowly die in the background.Pyrecannon is for some reason basically just worse, having the same range as power fist light attacks if not aimed. Still good, though heavy has other weapons that can actually compete for the slot.
>>547905860He also doesn't auspex everything he parries.
>>547905632Snipers used to be part of the scout units. So literally every codex compliant chapter pre Primaris.
>queue the new mission in private mode on minimal>bots on the loading screen are no longer ultramarines and use my armor/color presetssaber don't you fucking dare scare me like that
>>547867613Mk VII helmet with laurel
>>547906231And now snipers are part of both scout and phobos units so literally still every revised codex compliant chapter post primaris.I have like 8500 points of firstborn and even I know that's not what homie was asking
FUCK SPORE MINESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>547906871Just shoot em with your pistol
>>547906871Don't roll into them and you'll be a-ok brother!
>>547905386no but i played helldivers 2 and frankly i have the same complaints about almost everythingonly difference is HD2 crashes 100% of the time before extract
>>547905632I made a White Scar just to get some use out of their weapon skins. The phobos glove also feels appropriate for them.
I wonder how are devs going to fill Raptors chapter pack? Tactical bling? I mean they are successors so it's not like they will add extra chapters.
called it
>>547904329Damn, that sucks. Makes me wish we had another chapter in this update rather than just Salamanders
>grigorenko this, grigorenko thatDevs don't play above t3, everything beyond that is balanced by statistics and spreadsheets. It's literally helldivers situation but you replace sweden with russia, if developers actually spent time playing on higher difficulties they would see how shit simply breaks at those levels, but they don't, so the only point of reference they have is statistical data they gather.I am also convinced that whoever made the decision to split the melee weapons into different parry windows for weapon types was either fired or no longer working on the project, because it's the single most asinine design choice in the game. They could've had weapon types result in different combo pathways, but instead tied it to a core combat mechanic (parrying) by removing a 3rd of weapons from actually engaging with it. And then the other devs that came to support the post-launch had to reinvent the wheel for it 6 times, instead of just removing the weapon types.
Heroic bolt sniper does kinda fuck against tyranids though. Any threat that they have that needs to be shot to bits immediately is generally stationary with a big head so you can deal with them extremely rapidly, the only exception being the biovore which sniper has no good tools for anyways (and blocked headshots still count for the ammo refund, so you still get infinite ranged shots against them in turret mode). Everything else can be handled in melee with a bit of help from the pistol without causing any real issues for the team.So yeah, against tyranids it's absolutely worth bringing.
>>547910980Doesn't help that 90% of the community is just as retardedliterally every video about it i watch half the comments are>bro how did you do *thing that's just a weapon perk*like they don't fucking read
>>547907937Gucci gear, camo patterns and white monster cans
>>547911732To be fair, the game doesn't tell you diddly shit. The fact that you have to go over to the community stat excel sheet to get actual numbers is idiocy at it's peak. It's to the point where weapons stats are useless, since they don't correlate between different weapon groups and even inside the same weapon group they don't mean shit besides "this one does slightly more damage than the other one, and that one swings faster".So of course community has no idea how shit works, because even the perks can be imprecise or vague in their description.And while I am at it, I might as well add to my previous post, by saying that Assault is balanced and strong, because it's balanced and strong on t3 where devs play. They have no idea why people are bitching about it, because they never took assault on like t4+
the vistas in the new mission are incredible.funny how after putting all this work into the level they didn't care to make a proper airlock transition at the very start and were like, fuck it i'm done, fade to black and load the next scene graph please
Do the Tyranid Primes have headshot modifiers and headshot replenishment for the Heroic bolt sniper rifle?
>>547913086yes
>>547907415>swedish gamesBeen along for the ride since PD2 beta, dont think i actually touched HD2 since the ODST bond, ive heard literally nothing good about the game since then, which is incredibly impressiveCant wait for TemuJunkerQueen in Darktide soon, aswell, surely that will bring no new issues
>>547911932>camo patternsshit would be cash, I wouldn't say no to some classes wide capes and hoodies too.
>pubs damage me faster than i can recover chpokay, i think i will skip on this one
Literally first time running this mission and i clip out of bound on my 3rd ground poundnot even over a railing literally just fall through the floor
>increaed HBR damage by 13%Yes, surely this will make people want to use it over weapons that can stunlock extremis to death.
>>547913626Or even bolters that actually do decent damage per shot.
>>547913625is this your first time playing the game? I saw these platforms and tried to not even walk near the ledges, let alone ground pound nearby.
>>547914285it wasn't near a ledge, it just clipped through a floor next to 5 warriors
>>547794439>complete reclamation 3 times>restart the game>get 100 requisition>get 100 requisition againi'm not even surprised anymore, this patch is truly labor of love.
>>547912381>they didn't care to make a proper airlock transition at the very start and were like, fuck it i'm done, fade to black and load the next scene graph pleaseprobably the only way they know how to transition from walking around unable to swing to actual combat mode
>>547913626I told a year ago when they first started buffing hbr and abr, that they could've just increased the damage by like 100% and it still would've been balanced and just okay. Maybe they'll get there in another year.
>>547915367For me>complete reclamation once>re-open the game>get 100 accolades>complete thirce>re-open the game>get a message saying I've received 100 accolades>haven't actually gotten the second batch
>>547915367*accolades>>547915975that's weird, i did get 200.
>>547915430That's not true though. Campaign has a ton of "walk around guardsmen with your gun down" which seamlessly transition into a combat section.
>>547916208Campaign also has a working jetpack, and yet it's lost knowledge
>weekly has friendly damage>plasma cannon and melta rifle pubs load upcan't make this shit up
>>547917253I can't believe how lucky I was with the team I wound up with, and that's even considering the PS4 assault player kept going down.
>>547917253looks like the correct way to play is to equip a melta or a flamer yourself, kill the pubs, proceed to secure the mission.
>>547730617Wacky space skeleton cool
>>547917502the correct way to play is to solo it with the bots. the affix simply doesn't function; you can't hurt them and vice versa.
>>547917253I was fortunate to have a first run where the only major friendly fire incident was the tactical's AoE execution downing us when he grabbed a carnifex kill. The rest of the mission went smooth as butter.
>>547918386i remember that bug. good times
AlrightI'm ready to meme all over this shit
>>547918758goofy ass mittens
>>547920576I like how they fit a first-born scout look
>>547920631Phobos is far too armored to ever come close to looking like a scout while being far too underarmored to ever not look like shit.
What class should I pick if I don't want to be dead weight on the team as a newbie while I learn the game?also any tips for the grind?
>>547920979HeavyStay behind and shootSniper is a lost cause while the others require you mastering melee
>>547920979Bulwark. Be a Chad.
>>547920979Tactical if you can land your ability on the important shit.
>>547920979Heavyat low levels game is 100% designed around heavy being 100% reliable
>>547920979>>547921230this. if you start with >>547921174 you risk never getting good at melee and this game is basically a soulslike with guns.
>>547921857If he masters the Heavy he won't need to melee, he will naturally master Balanced and Fencing.
>>547905632
>>547921967no baiting while new people are around
>>547920979heavylrn2shootlrn2ammoconservelrn2stomplrn2balanced
What do you think people think of me when I join with non premium cosmetics?
>>547922129what the fuck are premium cosmetics? you mean dlc stuff? that you're not a paypig, obviously.
>>547922064It's not bait, I main all 3 ranged classes (actually 2 now since Sniper is dogshit now so I sub to Vanguard). I maxed the 2 melee classes but never play them.Tactical is an aggressive class with a babby mode ammo regen perk, he's not going to learn shit with that. With Heavy he will learn shooting, proper positioning since his melee is mostly stomps and once he masters Balanced learning Fencing or even useless Block will be far easier should he chooses.The guns also hit like a truck unlike the other classes, letting a noob play Bulwark or worse Assault is actually trolling/baiting. The devs can go fuck themselves with their Soulslop, my melee scores in Operations are always below 1000.
>>547916208>>547916829It's xenos tech at this point.
>>547922205>DLCwe call them premium. sweaty
>>547922554I call your mum premium. faggot
>>547916208I always liked how devs "forgot" to take your guns when you're walking past Leandros giving a sermon before a battle, letting you shoot the fucker in the head in front of your brothers and guardsmen
Why does saber hate assault so much? The only thing assault can do well not even better is ground pound to clear minoris trash. Vanguard is just straight up better in every way.
>>547923246well at least the assault doesn't look and behave like George Floyd.
>>547923246Assault is actually OP right now in PvP, this is the best time to max out the Chaos Assault. 9 kills for each 10 matches.Just jetpack thrust and oneshot your opponent.
>>547923454assault has always been op in pvp. at least since they made vanguard's special useless.
>>547923454yeah but campaign, pve and pvp are all different games made out of some shared assets. Even fucking UI works in different way
>uninstall WWZ to try Space Marine 2>thanksgiving double XP eventyo where is the space marine 2 event?
>>547923552>Even fucking UI works in different wayhave they added mouse support in pvp yet or is it still keyboard only?
>>547923551>assault has always been op in pvpUntil recently, no they're not. They're strong pre-patch but never OP. Right now they're OP and will get nerfed in a hotfix.All 5 classes are balanced in PvP, the Vanguard is trash since it gets trash guns (carbine unlocking only at way higher levels) and they nerfed its grappling hook very early on.
>>547923679it's here. you randomly get 100-200 blue mana if you play the new mission.
So is horde mode any good in this game?
>>547923771well, ok, he hasn't been "op" op. It's just nobody-is-looking-up (TM) so unless you're matched with decent players you're getting free kills all the time.
>>547923891no. it's currently abandoned, and devs announced they will be making it worse when they get to it.
>>547923891noyou just play normal wave 1-5 and unlock cosmetics at a snail's pace
>>547923891Hard mode is a ghost town, no one is playing it anymoreNormal mode you'll find some players grinding cosmetics but most leave after wave 10, others just wave 5People just play Stratagems and normal Operations
>>547923891Nope. It ranges from bad to abysmal. Too much visual shit thrown at you that would test the limits of a supercomputer. Plus there's no variety, same map, kill streaks etc. Also:>no fortification
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>>547924509congrats, fren. mica is one of my favorite rocks in dorf fortress. i have no idea what general you think you're posting in tho
>>547924065>>547924135Damn, not even a good place to grind XP or something? bought this hoping horde mode was going to be a good time, specially after the atrocious KF3 launch
>>547925515its the worst mode for xp grinding, stick to operations if you want to grind or level up
>>547925515It only gave troves of XP back when it was on PTS, I think. Devs realized it was too good so they nerfed it, obviously.
>>547925515>not even a good place to grind XP or somethingpossibly the worst place to grind xp. it takes 2 hours to get to wave 15, and then you randomly get disconnected and lose everything.
techmarine waiting roomthe new bolt pistol is dogshitthe new hammer is cool i guesseverything else is who gives a fuck tiertwins boss fight was wtv
>>547926108>twins boss fight was wtvi got flashback from catwoman revenge final fight, but it was easy here
>Want to update my wall guys>I have 11 submissions>moved out of the metro area into semi rural early this year>Could not post images due to 'temp ban' in my region>Was like this until about August>Could post images for about a month or so>Get back into SM2>Try to post my updated dudes>"Temp ban from posting images from your area due to abuse"WOULD THE FUCKING PEDO'S PLEASE FUCK OFF!!!!I know 4chan bans for VPN use but how the fuck do I get around my ISP being constantly on temp bans?
>>547927121wallanon accepts links to image hosting sites, just at him
>>547927368Oh lol. Now I think about it I have seen others do the same. Still annoying, but thank you.
>>547927471oh i'm sure it is, not being able to post images on an image fucking board of all places. at least you're immune to brainrot from talking with reaction images.
Got my goodboy points for the week what should I get next?
>>547928125anything except the glove
Can I do operations without losing my progress in a campaign mission?
>>547928705No if you do operations before doing the campaign titus dies and you lose the mode forever
Am I missing something with the block axe, if i go into power stance i legit get fucking chip damage out of the ass, making it a complete pain to use against minoris.
>Like the new salamander cosmetics>Like the flamer and any flame weapon to be honest>Still unable to play one due to the stigma of being a redditfag
>>547929685well, if you haven't been able to tell yet, people here are fucking braindead and hate on everything. They even call memes that originated on 4chan reddit-tier. Observe what happens everytime blood ravens are mentioned.
>>547929531Are you not getting both block charges before using the power stance attack?
Alright heroic heavy bolter is kinda mid. The spread and recoil are silly so consistent headshots from range are incredibly difficult. The increased parry window and vent on perfect parry is nice but if you're at any decent range its going to take ages to vent.
>>547932139It’s probably pretty good on the new level though right? Specifically that close range section that feels straight out of spacehulk
>>547932667I guess but it doesnt do anything better than the accuracy version of the HB
>>547933494Just thinking the better parry and rof would be useful there, accuracy not as important due to the point blank range. Generally though I agree the accuracy version is amazing
>Parry Lictor>Phases through me>It was the multi-hit combo>Get stagger-locked right as another Lictor jumps inIt's a good thing that was the end of the mission or I'd have lost my shit.
>Fully charge ground pound into shock AOE space creator into Aftershock shock AOEYeah this thing is cracked on Assault after that one change, genuinely made the class really fun.
>>547932139>heavy bolterramp up, high spread, headshot damagewhat were they thinking when they said "lets have it have all the tedium of multiple borderlands guns combined
>>547938982Heavy bolter should literally be a one man heavy weapons team that can move.The problem is Devastator's were supposed to be a heavy weapons support unit that sat in the back and wrecked stuff. Instead the Heavy Bolter in game feels like a full auto .22
>>547905632Blood Ravens. Cyrus and his scouts were a bunch of badasses.
>>547922457You mean lostech. They're looking for the STC.
>>547899890>Myopia - ranged damage at ranges greater than 10 metres is reduced by 75%So the boss is unkillable?Stratagems are the fucking worst addition ever made to this game.
>Friendly fire enabled>Now have to start actually thinking about how I shootBring this in as standard and make ledges dangerous. Give me more reasons to pant shit.
>>547940093You pray someone is playing Tact with a plasma gun and uses auspex.
>>547942763lol, you just equip pfist, refuse to step on the landing pad until a pub equips a second pfist, then you carry the third guy.
>>547943046I haven't checked if the power fist can still hit the heldrake because the last time I tried, it didn't
>>547943160well the guy who posted a webm earlier itt wasn't fighting the heldrake specifically, but the range looked good.
>>547943272I know the range is good. The patch that occurred I was able to hit the heldrake but the patch right after seemed to have nerf that range just for the heldrake so I wanted to be sure.
>>547943449ok, I'll test later
New Heroics Tier List based on my time with the PTS and the changes over Live>S'Storm's Dominion' Thunder Hammer>A'Wrapped Instigator Bolt Rifle''Death's Grasp' Power Fist>B'Chains of Duty' Heavy Bolter'Wrapped' Bolt Sniper Rifle>D'Retribution's Bequest' Heavy Bolt PistolThe big change to Storm's Dominion was allowing Assault to generate shock areas using ground pound. This is insanely good, and even despite not having the shock perks that Bulwark does, the mobility means Assault can more easily goomba stomp and deny land to reinforcing enemies, and clear space for himself to not get overwhelmed.'Death's Grasp' is this nice middle ground where your lights do solid enough damage to feel useful, and -50% damage on charged attacks isn't that crippling because the Power Fist just does that much retard-tier damage.The 'Wrapped' Bolt Sniper Rifle will always be B-tier, because it's bad against Chaos. Nearly every single bolt weapon is atrocious against the faction with few exceptions. I don't believe the ammo change had any real relevancy to why I placed it here. Tyranids have giant heads on average, while Thousand Sons have dinky heads and shrug off stagger effects harder.
>>547944293Oh yeah, the 'Chains of Duty' Heavy Bolter would have been A-tier had its accuracy not been kneecapped.
>>547944627it was always accuracy 1. the ui for it was bugged
>>547944293>Power Fist charged attacks are still goodSo should I still keep Overcharge or take Armor Reinforcement/Winged Fury?
Glad to be done with spore mines + friendly fire madness. Took like 6 attempts though. I honestly think Carnifexes are the most annoying terminus spawns in the game.>Tanky as fuck>Will either do its spine bunker nuke after a slam or won't, you're not given a warning and it can basically angle itself to hit you from a mile away if it decides to switch aggro>Annoying ass charge spam that you won't get time to punish until the end IF it crashes into something>Enormous delay in its sweeps>Huge AOE when it pulls its talons off the ground>No stagger animation (because it wasn't programmed) so a gunstrike won't stall it unlike a helbruteThe takes so long to kill and you've got accompanying waves but at least the neurothrope can be bursted down to half HP once it comes down. The carnifex just continues being a battering ram with minimal downtime.
Semi Lorelet hereI know Necrons would be impossible to balance with GW being so anal about the "JUST LIKE THE TABLETOP" bs they pulled with the thousand sons, but i dont remember every specificI know they basically cant die and just come back, and also have some of the worst Ranged shit to go up against (same for Tau)Also, what would be a decent faction to deal with? Eldar?
>>547861938>If they want people to play the dailiesIf they actually wanted people to play dailies, they'd add attractive rewards to purchase for accolades. Once you get the MKVII and MKVIII helmets, the three-skull chest and maybe the gloves, there's nothing worth buying because all weapons are "sidegrades" and all other gear is too blinged out or designed for smurffags.
>>547947426>Also, what would be a decent faction to deal with? Eldar?They could work as some auxillary enemy force, mainly because eldarfags get pissy about making them too numerous, even though it's just a game. Also, Someone made pic related when there was a bit of theory crafting going on about enemies in SM3.
>>547947426Eldar aren't really a mob-based faction nor do they currently have reason to fight humanity as much as they used to.>What would be a decent faction to deal withEasy answer? Orks. No real need to explain there.Other viable candidates are Tau, Dark Eldar, and Necrons. >TauHuman auxiliiaries, kroots, vespids, and Tau proper can serve as a decent mob-based enemy>NecronsThe ability to reanimate and repair their troops can have a swarm of Necron Warriors feel like mobs imo. Might be a tough balancing act though. You can have their deatomization mechanic come into play like the tyranid poison/chaos hallucination effect except taking too much fire will just burst a chunk of your health down>Dark EldarUnlike regular eldar, DE can just grow more troops in vats so you can justify having mobs of them die without too much issue. Hell, throw in some warp beasts and human slaves in there if you want.
>>547947957>oh yeah, that's the pic everyone is laughing at, i wonder what could be wrong with it>click>necron minoris: warriors, flayed onesokay, i wasn't ready for this
>>547947426If you mean a faction that smarms you with weak melee units, after Tyranids the only choice left is Nurgle, if they don't go back to Orks.
>>547948456Something has to give for the necrons.We don't even have rippers as regular enemies so scarabs are out of the picture.
>>547947957I feel like Krootox Riders could easily be majoris. The Krootox would ape sperg around like a chaos spawn, while the rider shoots you at the same time. So fun!
>>547947426Eldar never engaged in large scale conflict with the Imperium because they're all glass cannons, but conflict is even rarer today because the elves care more about the galaxy being torn in half by a warp rift. Even the more racist craftworlds like Biel Tan are willing to not just work with, but die alongside the Imperium if the need arises.I predict the next game is going to be Necrons and Word Bearers.
>>547948456Nothing wrong with the pic. You're gonna have to make concessions when you put units into game.It's like saying killing a hive tyrant or trygon gives you aneurysm because three marines wouldn't be able to pull it off.
>>547887862Not only did they randomize the list of colors but they changed around some icons for them too.
>load into operations >disconnected >”MODS DETECTED ALERT ALERT AN AUTOMATED REPORT HAS BEEN SENT MODS DETECTED”I… I never touched a single mod for this game though?
>>547949784Yeah it does that sometimes.
>>547947957If that Anon lurks around here we could add Chaos to the mix, but not T'sons. God no. Put in Khorne's boys:>Minoris:CultistsGoremongers (flying cultists)Jakhals (berserker cultists)Flesh hounds>Majoris:BloodlettersBerzerkersChaos spawn>Extremis:Exalted EightboundBloodcrusherSkull Cannon>Terminus:Helbrute (red)DefilerLord on Juggernaut>Operation boss:Daemon Prince of KhorneLord of SkullsMaulerfiend/Forgefiend
>>547949850Well now it’s doing it every time I try and join a game. Do I need to verify my install or something?
>>547950190Can't hurt.
>>547949243the hive tyrant is severely wounded and we almost losethe trygon gets shot to death by the thunderhawk
Heroic Heavy Bolter is worth using purely for the fact it now has a Fencing parry.
How much does it take to bring a toon to max level?
Clowned by a neurothrope and 4 biovores at the very end but other than that it was a really easy weekly.
>>547950529>the hive tyrant is severely wounded and we almost loseBit of a strawman but ultimately we win. >the trygon gets shot to death by the thunderhawkYeah I know and Bio-titan is shot to bits by cannons, but that's my point. You can go around that sort of suspension of disbelief because it's a game. Though Straban would definitely beat Avatar of Khaine to a pulp.
>>547944293>power fist>a tierlol nothat thing is dogshit 200% of nothing is still nothing why bother with it when you can run a block fist and delete whole groups with it?
>>547949996Khornes forces would've been much better, but chaos undivided I feel is a slightly better choice if only for the variety of enemies. Visual variety could be an argument for various chaos factions.
>>547887862>Some wildly unqualified Slav fraud out there is committing pure thievery every time he gets a paycheckYou just described everyone in russia.
>>547947426nucrons are pussies, they just die to random shit, you also have not-zombies! with the nuflayed ones lore.
>>547952206>Something gets in your face>Forced to roll slop away because you can't charge attack>HPF still does solid charge damage, because again, PF does retard charge damage50% of a nuke is still 50% of a nuke.
>>547952414Same thing goes for the heroic except its even worse because you need two fully charged attacks to kill a warrior unlike a block fist which just needs one. 50% is a sizeable nerf to damage on the one aspect of the block fist that is good ie charged attacks. Literally not worth using unless you're doing some memestrike build which is already one of the gayest parts of the game.
Yeah sick I literally cannot play the game now. I guess I accidentally joined some random dickhead playing with mods, that flagged my game somehow, and now I can’t join any games without being kicked out cuz the game goes “MODS DETECTED MODS DETECTED”I looked up some solutions that involve using a VPN to switch game servers but I don’t have a fucking VPN lmao. Are these fucking devs serious? I woke up today to play some SM2 and it’s been a fucking hour and I haven’t managed to play a single game and now my account might be permanently bricked?What the fuuuuuuck motherfuuuuuckeeerrrrr????
idk why i am even doing this
>>547953202just reinstall bro?
>>547953202There’s a 292 comment-long post on the Steam discussions that’s an hour old filled with everyone saying they have the same issue. Could be a server thing?
>>547953202Delete all the game files, like even the host folder after uninstalling. Then try a fresh install.
>>547954517>>547954646Everything I’ve read says that doesn’t work, because the servers are the ones flagging your game as modded, not the client.
>>547954720what do you think gets flagged as modded, you double nigger?
>>547955885Why do people report that re-installing doesn’t work then?
>>547956138because you touch yourself.
>>547927121there's also /v/ and 'ick on 'eck ban evasion posting
>>547949243if i was going to make the concession it would be the cryptothralls, theyre kinda perfect if they werent so tanky
>>547955885judging by the steam forums this seems to be a server side issue, whatever system they use to detect mods went crazy with the patch.
>>547953202I just bought the game clean new install and I tried to play pvp for the first time cause I want to play as a night lord and I got kicked for having mods. I guess I'll just play through the campain for now
>>547959325also how present is this indian bitch in the campain? please tell me she dies off or something she's seriously distracting since when are cadians indian and why the fuck do I have to listen to an indian accent in my escapism
>>547959883She's there for some time. Thankfully she doesn't overstay her welcome.Mira was still better than the indian/hypsy hybrid. Fuck DEI in modern gaming.
The new equipment isn't terrible on Assault with the shock thunder hammer, but that's more that Assault in this state effectively gets a free equipment slot to do with as he pleases, since he just shits shock grenade AOEs.>Enemies surrounding you>Pop melee equipment for a free AOE stagger>Charge +25% damage Aftershock
>>547960179there is no way that saarkana wasn't meant to be old Mira originally. They had to change it later
>>547959883>since when are cadians indianCadians are unironically nearly all dead at this point, to the point it's kinda ridiculous you keep running into them in every game. Imagine if every town across the globe IRL had a resident Maori person. It's that dumb.
>>547960780that would be dumb actually, guardsmen don't live that long.
>>547961114yeah and a coincidence of meeting her again would be weirdprobably why they changed it
>>547960775didnt know they added something, its like a worse version of block.
Are the servers absolute dog anus for anyone else? Did the new op with powerpoint tier server ticks.
>>547961324What is?
now if only they will give us actual loadout and perks
>>547961840that melee damage buff equipment. block give 90% damage and infinite stagger on your attacks plus ranged damage reduction. with assault's prestige perk you are also immune to stagger when you block. im just surprised the new equipment is so weak
>>547961787beware the dressup station, if you take too much time playing around your computer might catch on fire.
>>547960775Oh by the way you don't even need to fully charge your ground pound to get the shock AOE. It's kind of like how with Aftershock, you only need to wait to the first "zzt" charge noise and that counts as "fully charged" for the shock AOE.
>>547961787There's been yet another AWS outage. Same reason people are getting flagged for modded files for no reason
>>547960179Imagine how badly her izzat plummeted when Cadia fell.
>multiplayer is even more shit and unplayable then normal
>>547953202Works for me.>>547958689This game is peer-to-peer. Everyone plays on the team leader's computer. Only pvp uses dedicated servers. All mod detection is also client-side.
>>547963969than
>>547963992wrong. wrong. wrong (as demonstrated earlier). also wrong.
>first balanced>now fencing>next up is blockSo all melee weapons have a heroic version already. I'm guessing sword is up next and maybe another knife? with the raven guard. They're probably going to butcher the next weapons too and make them dookie tier as usual.
>>547964681>Only melee weapon left without a variant is the Power Axe>Block Power Axe is already the best general non-meme shit melee weapon in the game What will the Heroic be?
>see heroic heavy bolt pistol in shop>"Headshot are instakills">cool>buy it>go into mission>headshot a nid warrior>he doesn't dieI want a refund
>>547964681I doubt it. They've never said they're going to make multiple Heroic versions of the same weapon, so what we have is likely all we'll get. Heroic weapons are meant to provide an alternative playstyle, and baseline Block weapons already do that.
>>547963992>works fine on my machine :)Genuinely if there’s a single group of people on this planet who I could exterminate with the press of a button, it would be people that say this shitYou have never helped anyone ever and you have actively made things worse
>>547965078only if they are calling reinforcement dingus
>>547965078yeh the wording is incredibly deceptive.both the new bolter for heavy and heavy pistol are dogshit. New fist is good tho.
>>547964948>What will the Heroic be?block, no power stance, double attack speed
>>547965096They said that they were going to make heroics for all the archetypes though
>>547967393bad translation or drunken russian babblethey mean one heroic per weapon
>teammate leaves the game because i ran straight through the first half of a mission while killing all the priority enemies
>>547964405Ah yes, I'm sure the game has dedicated servers so nobody in the team is a host and you don't get any loading screens when they leave. Indeed, that must be the case. Absolutely.
The heavy bolter heroic is dogshit. By the emperor.I guess that's what we get for having the heroic Plasma be so good.
What stupid way will they sell us back a multi-melta I wonder.Make it shoot an actual glob of energy that deals immense single target damage? A lore-accurate melta-gun?
>>547972849I just want the glitch back. It made it so much fun.
>>547972849we know the gimmick has to be contrary to normal usage. Single target would be nice. A modifier that bypasses extremis/terminus resistance but nerfs damage dealt to minoris would also be fun. But knowing saber, it will just have worse stats in exchange for another melee buff.
>>547972849Buff all melta weapons by +50% and its minimum range from 1 to 3 for base and 3 to 8 for ranged versions. Also add in +35% more ammo for base versions and +55% ammo for the ammo version.
>>547972849That would be a good idea for all the meltas including the Inferno pistol. Give them an alternate single-target, longer-range version that offers a different playstyle.
>>547965078>>547966114Tactical's new Signal Jammer is the same for garbage wording. It makes it sound like using Auspex at all blocks reinforcement calls for 90 seconds. No, it instead HAS to be used on a reinforcing enemy, and only THEN does the effect trigger for 90 seconds.
>>547974182I just want the fire rate to not suck dick.
>we don't want Tactical to be a grenade spammer>we don't want Vanguard to be a team healerWhat the fuck is wrong with these devs?
>>547975740my favourite is>we don't want Assault
I hope someone pays Ukraine to drone strike Saber HQ, I know there are anons here who can drop $3500-$5000 per drone.
>>547976153I hoe not, the situation in Cyprus is fragile enough as it is.
>>547976035The worst part is that they DO want assault. They think they've already made assault do. Somehow they can't see that assault does not.
>>547974841How about an alternative single target, longer range firing mode (accessible when aiming) that requires charging up the shot?
>>547976485They were moved to Armenia, not Cyprus.
>>547977782They think Assault is so overpowered that they specifically designed the new level to ass rape his ground pounds with the limited ceiling space.
>>547979183more opportunities to use its amazing new Dash attack :~)
How likely are we to get proper chapter differentiation in the dialogue of SM3 operations? I don't want to hear about Ultramar when I'm dressed as a son of Corax.
>>547979649no
That gruff Guardsman sergeant(?) you run into during Decapitation has more personality that Sarkaana.
>>547979649Incredibly unlikely if we're still hanging around with the Ultramarines only and do not get assistance from other chapters.Having some Blood Angels around would be neat but they're helping out the Dark Angels.
>>547980876he's incredibly based. I hope he survived the campaign.
>>547980876IIRC his appearance is generic and changes every mission from other guard sergeant presets.
>>547981525then you recall wrong. he even has a page in datavault
I hope at one Primarch appears in SM3, even if it's just a wordless cameo. I want to see one of those motherfuckers towering over us like a proper living god.
>>547981049>assistance from other chaptersi know a chapter that could make a cool cameo.i wish they didn't go full retard on dow this year, by the time sm3 hits the shelves nobody will remember blood ravens.
>>547982092These guys are the [REDACTED] chapter, Scipius will be shelved for Cyrus and will have specific voice lines.They're already present in Obelisk, omitting them was retarded.
>>547982092>by the time sm3 hits the shelves nobody will remember blood ravens.DoW4 comes out next year too. If it manages to stay afloat and get some expansions, not all hope is lost for the Blood Ravens.>>547982238>They're already present in ObeliskElaborate
>>547982238>They're already present in Obeliskdude what?
>>547981979Loyal or heretic?
>>547982238>They're already present in Obelisk,
>Suspicious Behaviour
>>547980876ASTARTES
>>547952206>execute a jumping minoris>free gun strikeits pretty not bad
>>547961114Generals definitely can, there are life extension treatments for the elite
>>547987952The new Heroic Heavy Bolt Pistol has the strongest gun strike in the game after the buffs. So it alongside the Heroic Power Fist and going all in on gunstrikes is the most meme shit imaginable. It's dogshit but fun.
new mission is crap. its a fucking confusing maze and you cant jump pack in a lot of places
>>547989668assault player lol
Is there an event or something going on for newbies?
>>547990974you get 200 boylover coins for doing the new mission 3 timesbut other than that no
>>547982238cyrus got killed in the dow4 trailer
>>547989668>assnigger can't navigate mapsI'm not surprised
>mine fieldI will not play any stratagem with this fuck ass modifier. What the fuck is wrong with Saber
>>547994360>handshake to healhaving our survival in the hands of people who cant even read is fucking infuriating
>>547992461should I join as a low level shitter?What are the coins used for?
>>547995395cosmetics and really bad weapons
>>547994970kek
>>547948456The obvious solution would be to make the minoris for necrons as numerous and strong as majoris for other factions.You could otherwise use the examples of previous warhammer games where necron warriors aren't actually very strong or durable compared to other races' lesser troops.
>>547994970Did the weekly earlier today and the Heavy with the HHPI didn't clock the friendy fire. He did more damage to me and the Bulwark than the fucking Nids.
Had anybody tested the perks that increases the parry window by 25/50% since the recent update? I'm asking because they presumably use the same code as the Heroic Heavy Bolter, and that now works like a Fencing weapon.
>>547997321That's a good time to make use of the friendly fire yourself.
Opinions on Total War: Warhammer III?
I hate playing after a new patch. Everyone's fucking retarded
So when are they gonna actually fix Chaos Spawn and make them fun to fight against?
>Everyone in the squad using the beakymy niggas
>>548000224bavi
>>547998503Unwarranted hateDevs do give a shit contrary to what people sayOutdated engine (they shoulda made it with the 3 kingdoms engine for more responsive ranged firing lines, better pathing, and better lighting)Superb gooner mods (lazyicarus)
>>547998967Community IQ from my experience:>Vermintide2>Payday2>Darktide>Monster hunter world>Paint sniffing junkies>Monster hunter wilds>Drophead babies>Space marine 2>Helldivers 2
>>547998503Big downgrade to TW Warhammer 2Worse mapWorse campaignWorse visuals
>>548000804Move Darktide above MH and it's objectively correct
Are ANY of the new heroics good?
>>548001110The bolt sniper is good if you literally never miss.
>>548001102I assume you mean wilds but I think the issue is that >Stick to low diff and you're playing with absolute twats>High diff players are just solid
>>548001228above MHW* yesI played plenty of H40 and before that Auric Mael and it's still infested with shitters, bonus points to the 2k+ level dorks that go down once and leaveBut im also in slavic hell (EU) so ymmv
>>548001110If you're retreating the new powerfist isn't bad since you can get a free gun strikeIf you're treating I bet the new thammer is prolly pretty goodThere basically the game just added a bunch of weapons that are alright if you're running away
>>547999047if you play siege over and over again choas spawns are easy as fuck. the only bullshit is the soul reaper terminators with their bullshit auto-lock missles and infinite railgun ammo
>>548001110powerfist is fun af. Always keeping shields up with its gauranteed gunstrike and its charge attack damage isnt that noticable if you are prioritising the stronger light attacks.
>load into Ruthless Decapitation>Heavy with low health 10 lightyears ahead of my spawn location>the entire tyrannid hive fleet is between me and him>he dies and leavesbuh
>>548002238Soulreaper auto cannon>Zero recoil>Excellent tracking>Seemingly infinite ammo>Laser pinpoint spread>Able to be fired on the move with zero penaltySomehow weaker than the Terminator stormbolter because the stormbolter is all that but the Terminator is actively sprinting at the player>Meanwhile the heavy bolter relies on headshots, does no damage otherwise, and must be fired while barely or not movingOn a gun with ramp up which historically doesn't need to ramp upWhy?
>>548003048>Auto cannonMeant assault cannon but still
can anyone identify what hiveships are visible from reclamation's start?
>bot marines now use your cosmetics for their classbased
>>548002679Don’t say “buh” my girlfriend says that Weirdo
>>548005040that reminds me of when someone mistook me in-game for a girl based on how I typed. Apparently I type "femininely" or something
>>548005353You think I’m fucking around but I’m not
test
>>548004789its only client side. you will only ever see your customization, never another player's.
>>548005625buh dog
>>548003048its rotor cannon thats why, its basically a heavy stubber
That’s 3 hard weekly attempts in a row where I’ve been one-shot by a Tac using radiating impact
>>548007686Thankfully that only started happening to me once I started attempting the normal.Definitely one of those modifiers that expects people to perk check their classes and plan their loadouts accordingly before attempting it, but virtually no one's gonna do that.
>>548003389The two big ones are HiveshipsThe fat ones with a dickmouth look like Corrosive Krakens to meThe other fat ones are hard to indetify because half of the entire tyranid fleet roster looks like that. It's possible they're Devourers or Razorfiends but they look a bit too small for those. More likely in my opinion are Void Prowlers, Krakens or Escort Drones
The only time I ever struggle in this game is when I play with other players. With bots its an easy win every time.
these snowniggers really cant do anything right
>>548009242I genuinely wonder why people are so fucking bad at this game or at least appear so
