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Ten years of comfort Edition

Previous thread: >>547918314

>Latest News/Updates:

Darktide:
New Class Reveal - Hive Scum
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/new-class-reveal-hive-scum
Dev Blog - Hive Scum: Narrative & VO
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-hive-scum-narrative-vo/115001

Vermintide 2:
New Free level: Return to the Reik - Out Now!
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-free-level-return-to-the-reik-out-now/114928

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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desperately want ogryn to get more weapons
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>>548035642
Heavy bolter pls
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Is Vermintide 2 fun solo? I picked it up when it was free and forgot about it
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>>548036408
I despise the bots but they are fairly capable (especially at survivng) so I don't think you'll have much trouble up to Legend difficulty.
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>>548035528
What's the most soulful comfy main hub area out of any coop game?
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>>548036408
yes, but bots use your loadout
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so how other classes will refer to ganger?
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>>548036808
N
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>>548035528
The Red moon is so comfy. Taal's feels cold and isolated, and the Mourningstar too dour.
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>>548036607
Hubs are a fucking cancer that gets in the way of playing the game. DRG's hub is the least intrusive and most fun overall.
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>>548035528
Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.9.2 patch notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330
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>>548036808
ATTENTION SCUM
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>>548036954
>wanting a matchmaker to drop you into a game directly from the main menu
>cooperative games
No soul, no soul
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>>548036607
monhun hubs, particularly MHW's original hub
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i do not fucking understand why people like the mk3 club on ogryn it's so god damned fucking bad i would literally take any other weapon
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>>548037670
Take bleed
Take rending
Take Heavy Hitter, all the attack speed and impact you can get
Spam light attacks
You should understand once you do these.
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>>548037804
im using all that its shit
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>>548037670
The latest round of ogryn nerfs killed it.
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>>548037956
I don't remember it getting any worse nerfs than halving the amount of bleed stacks per light attack (which affected every weapon). Armored enemies are tankier but you can still stunlock crushers just fine.
>>548037836
>its shit
Maybe it's your blessings, maybe it's you. It's no longer the retarded OP bonkstick it used to be, but it's still perfectly serviceable and arguably somewhat good.
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>>548037670
It's a braindead spam stick. Ogryn doesn't really have any standout melee anymore at this point so I guess a lot of people go with it since it's easy to use and staggers well. I personally can't stand to use anything but the pickaxes these days because everything else feels so pitifully weak. If I wanted a braindead spam stick I would just use the Karsolas over the bully club honestly, but I use the Branx on pretty much every ogryn build now.
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I like Ogryn :)
JUST WISH FUCKIN' PUNIES COULD SHOOT THE BAD MEN WITH GUNS
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>>548038552
I also like that the giant who is stronger than a space marine has worse melee damage than a cop, this is good game design
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>>548038621
Blame malicelets.
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I would have taken an update to the mission hub with a cantina where we can gamba and do silly things over getting a hive slop class
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>>548038872
Happens in the december 2 update. Trust the plan.
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>>548038872
that would require a dev team that actually wants to be working on this game
their management is retarded. you're literally not allowed to interact with the community unless you're a CM or get approval, and they think they're gonna attract anyone except pale pajeets who hate their jobs.
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>>548038621
It was a very loaded "i like ogryn :)".
I'd like them to be the best melee class, with how poor their ranged game is (heavy stubber being the exception).
Ideally building into a role would lead to similar performance across classes, with some unique advantages. It's nothing that hasn't been discussed to death, and it's all ideas guy shit, so I'll cut the post short.
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>>548036408
Yes, but don't be scared to play with randoms
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>>548037836
it's objectively not shit
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>>548039498
well i dont like it
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>>548039880
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>>548039880
No full frontal nudity, no buy
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4 more sleeps and Darktide is saved.
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>>548036408
yeah I've played through the entire campaign with only bots multiple times, on legend difficulty, and even done some maps on cata with them. It's quite fun. I also play quickplay a lot.
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how come one side has only some randoms in rags, poxxers and renegade guard unit while other side have guard regiments, arbites, rogue trader ship, army of convicts and now high ranking gangers and still unable to put a dent in Dreg Shotgunner-sama forces?
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>>548040641
Simple, there's a LOOOT of heretics. Tertium has a population of like 90 billion people. (Funny thing is that in the 10 years of Tide video it did show that us the player collectively have killed over 90 billion enemies already, and that's only in 3 years)
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>>548040947
what do they eat?
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>>548041046
Corpse starch, rats.
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>>548040641
hive tertium has a population in the high tens of billions and atoma itself numbers just shy of a trillion. even under the most optimistic and crowded conditions, the mourningstar couldnt have more than a hundred thousand souls between crew and passengery aboard
>>548041046
imported foodstuffs from the nearby agriworlds that lie within and support the greater mobian domain. most of it are related to our present-day crops of basedbeans, wheat, and maize, where it's processed into a macronutrient-rich slurry usually called "slab."
>>548041162
cringe grimderp oldlore
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>>548040641
actually the real number of people we fight is like 3 dudes per mission
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>>548040947
No they haven't. 90 billion kills would take quite a long time at the rate we're going.
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>>548041162
>>548041293
mainly what are cultist forces eating, I imagine they don't get any supplies and already ate whatever there was stored in sectors they control
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>>548041829
the same stuff. how they get it is going to be different though.
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>>548041046
Ration, duh. Are you stupid?
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>>548041721
?
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>>548042425
You fell for retarded Swede maffs. I don't think you grasp how many matches 90 billion kills would take. Spoilers: it's a lot.
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>>548042591
It would take 3 years of 27k lobbies doing 5 missions daily and scoring 600 kills on average, why
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>>548029215
>buffing damage against bosses for the team
Irrelevant. I run thunder hammer stealth zealot and just one-shot every boss for the team
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>>548041829
>what do cultists eat
Each other
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>>548042967
>27k lobbies
>daily
There are nowhere near that many lobbies on the daily. Not even a tenth of that.
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>>548043152
That's a completely different role and arguably completely unnecessary with a good team, because bosses just fucking melt within seconds. This includes human bosses. Regular captains don't even get to stand up before their shield cycles, twins similarly die before they get to stand up.
That's not to say thammer is bad. It's fine. I don't mind having one in the team as the second zealot. I'd rather play VPOZ tho.
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>>548041829
Anything and everything they can get their hands on, except probably literal shit. Especially cannibalism but it was made pretty obvious that they also steal rations.
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>>548041829
Again, corpse starch, rats.
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>>548043401
You do realize that the Steam chart counter does not show console numbers, right?
Yeah, the current player count is around 6-7k people at peak hours. That's is just Steam however.
There's still Xbox and Playstation players.
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>>548043753
There's no way of knowing of course but I really don't think the console playerbase of Darktide is very large. Based purely on my anecdotal experience I encounter way more Steam players than globies. Maybe there really is 20k console players playing Malice together to scrape those kills into the billions the Swegroids claim, but I doubt it.
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>>548044008
I really do wonder how many globies there are. Maybe they're just more skewed to the babby difficulties, while auric and above are PC sweat territory? I have no clue because I never touch any difficulties outside of auric, havoc, and the occasional uprising speed run for Melk, but the latter I usually solo through MMT.
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>>548035528
Average hive ganger experience on december 2

https://files.catbox.moe/k86x6q.webm
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>>548044327
Rogue estimate from only playing Auric Maelstorms, I'd say about 10% of players are on console
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>>548044008
90 billion kills in 3 years is not impossible or even improbable at all.
Doing 5 missions with all missions averaging 600 kills, is not at all difficult to do. For fuck sakes regular damnation alone easily spawns like 1500 enemies.
And then if you play auric the numbers goes to like 3000+ easily in a 30 minute mission.
And since Havoc exists, those missions swell the number to like 4000+ enemies killed during a 30-40 minute mission.

91 billion enemies killed in 3 years is 100% doable. Also Fatshark has their own actual metrics that they can track internally. Like they even added that one thing for cyber-mastiff showing that some singular guy out there has petted their cybermastiff like 780 different times.
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>>548044521
You're trying to convince a paranoid and deeply mistrustful person that a statistic can be taken at face value and isn't an attempt to trick them.
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>>548044818
statistics only exist as a tool for decision making and influence
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>>548044873
Every Arbitrator I've seen is some kind of reference or joke. I haven't seen a single normal name out there.
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>>548044473
>doesn't even spin
what's the point
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>>548045036
Hive Scum will be the same. Everyone will be some variant of George Floyd, a stereotypical nigger name like JaMarcus Dindu, or some drug reference.
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>>548044473
No spinning. No sovl.
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>>548045036
Mine's one of my RPG characters
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>kf3 is under 300 players
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>>548043469
>weakened
What exactly were you trying to show?
Bosses is what ends runs. If you don't die to bosses you won't die to poxies.
>but mutants
How bad can you be
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>>548044474
>this nigga thinks consolefags play maelstroms
Lmao
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>>548041046
Corpse starch and whatever mold/fungi grows on the plumbing.
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I have been at 9/10 on the achievement for completing 10 missions in a row without being downed since shortly after launch and I have never made much of an effort to actually do it. I started actually trying to get 100% achievements recently and immediately got downed twice in a single match by silent overheads when I have genuinely probably gone down to overheads probably less than 20 times my entire time in game. Most of my downs come from joining already losing missions or impossible wipe scenarios.
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>>548046129
Are you retarded? I've seen it.
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How do I even play psyker in havoc?
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>>548046261
I got that penance during when Arbites first released. The auric difficulties were bugged and everyone bulldozed right through them.
So I got that penance and then the next one very easily.
Also I got the "finish mission with no damage taken" penance too.
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I really like Terminus Warrant lexus run&gun, hope Scum get to be even speedier
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>>548046361
Sure, some do. But I won't believe for a second the ratio is the same as PC players.
Swedes always say most players play low difficulty, who are these players?
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>>548046695
>I'd estimate 10% of Auric Maelstorm players are console
>WTF NO CONSOLE PLAYERS DON'T PLAY AUROC MAELSTORM
>OKAY WELL YES LESS CONSOLE PLAYERS PLAY
Really don't see why you felt the need to object to my original post
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>>548046543
I got the no damage as veteran one pretty easily after actually making a concerted effort to get it in a normal snoric. The only ones I have left funnily enough are killing 40 stunned enemies as zealot, 20 sequential headshots (again at 19/20 since shortly after launch) and then 10 missions in a row without being downed. I thought for sure I would have just earned these through normal gameplay after enough time but apparently not.
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>>548046695
I've played auric maelstrom missions where I am the only PC player.
Also I see at lest 1 or 2 console players in my auric maelstrom teams very commonly.
Hell, console players are also very common in Havoc, even in Havoc 40.
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>>548045935
>What exactly were you trying to show?
That bosses die plenty quick. It doesn't matter that the video shows weakened bosses, you can just assume that a regular boss survives for roughly twice as long. The video just shows the possible DPS of a good team, and that it isn't necessary to have a thunder hammer to achieve such numbers.
I don't have a recording of a captain getting completely raped unfortunately, otherwise I'd use that. Microsoft's jeets ruined GeForce Experience by including a DRM check, so it stops recording whenever it trips, and just having Spotify running (not even playing) trips it. I often forget to turn it off.

And no, bosses aren't usually what end runs. I've lost more runs to retards somehow failing the DPS check against rotten armor, or getting cornered by 5 flamers with nobody taking care of them, or some retard lagging behind and not doing his job, etc. etc.
Bad teams lose before bosses can matter. Only mediocre teams struggle with bosses. Good teams annihilate bosses and 2-3 mutants ironically become more problematic lol.
>just dodge
I do. The guy behind me might not, and land in a puddle of fire.
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>>548046539
You shit flames left and right while the team protects you
Or you go full retard and bring some obscure knife build and zoom around while contributing nothing
Not much really depends on you if you go first route, and you throwbthr game if you go second.
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>>548046831
I kind of cheesed that 20 headshots in a row thing by just queing up for a uprising mission, and then I just equipped revolver on my zealot and then I just ran around head shotting the chaff enemies at point blank.
And after I got the achievement I just left the mission.
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>>548046786
Because it's retarded
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>Shock Maul
>long slim bulgy head
>Arbites Shock Maul
>short girthy thick and lumpy
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>>548047038
If anything you're just making it obvious you don't even play auric maelstorm missions, anon
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>>548047010
I've heard that brain burst counts as a headshot and that you can just use a particular build to spam out 20 brain bursts in a row and get the penance, not sure if this is true or not though
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>>548046904
My teammates don't fold to bosses, they fold to other shit like flamers or ragers when bosses appear.
You always talk like you single out bosses and other enemies don't exist, this literally never happens.
If you remove bosses ylur retards can just continue playing like usual.
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>>548043469
>That's not to say thammer is bad. It's fine.
Outside its one niche, which as you pointed out is unnecessary? It's ouclassed in every way. It's still my favorite weapon.
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>>548047304
>You always talk like you single out bosses and other enemies don't exist, this literally never happens.
This literally does happen all the time when a boss spawns, because I play chorus zealot.
>boss shows up
>everyone regroups
>chorus to stun the boss and every surrounding enemy
>it's fucking half dead while getting stunlocked
>continues to get stunlocked and eats shit
>maybe include a stun grenade to hold the armored horde in place
>the veteran might have to shoot a sniper or bomber
Outside of that, there's still ogryn taunt, vet shout, kraks to stun them. Only burgles are an exception, and those are completely trivialized by bubble, if you bring bubble. If you don't bring bubble, the psyker likely has enough DPS that they don't matter either.
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>>548047296
if this was true I would probably have it from mortis trials (which gives a buff that multiplies your brainburst by 10)
I'm only at 17/20 though
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bruh they put us on hold for a frame
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>>548048531
100% they just forgot to make a reward and had their artist draw this up in an hour
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>>548048531
A frame. That's it?
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>>548048531
>team retard portrait frame
t-thanks...
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>>548048531
Considering the shitty rat tail I'm surprised that I'm less disappointed
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>>548036408
The bots are pretty good, since they use your builds. Just know that they can't properly use some abilities, like Bounty Hunter's ult (it often breaks and the bot just aims the gun until it dies without ever shooting) and you might be able to get all Tomes and Grimoires, since they can't get to some spots and sometimes they refuse to teleport the item to their invetory or themselves to you
But they are good enough to beat maps on Legendary (I did the Skittergate on Legend with them), and I personally prefer them over randoms when playing with friends
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>>548048531
how do I get it and tail? Wasn't playing during that time
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>>548049186
they're good enough to beat a lot of maps on cataclysm as well, if you have them built really well. Though some parts might give them issues..
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>>548048531
A GRUNTIN' FRAME
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>>548048531
God damn it.
>should we make an actual new cosmetic for this event we held?
>nah, lets just put in another fucking frame that nobody gives a shit about.
Fucking Sven.
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>>548048531
I want a shirt covered in food stains at least
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>>548048531
It is what it is.
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>>548049312
>how do I get it
log in

>how do I get tail
had to play the event, it will never come back, enjoy fomo
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>>548048531
Remember when we had that first community event or whatever that was about adding the Ascension Riser mission?
I like how we got the mission (it always going to be added) but they also then added that one helmet cosmetic too. It's the memento mori helmet.

Why can't we get proper cosmetics or something for events?
Why is just just useless badges, frames and fucking keychains? Is it some dogshit manager/corpo mandate?
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We'll get Hive Scum armor that's just empty ration packs stapled together
Trust the plan
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>>548049516
Good image
>>548048531
To be expected, I guess
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>retard pushes a poxburster into me from behind
>it knocks me perfectly into two crusher overheads
>this obviously results in a wipe, because the carry went down and nobody revived him
Insane.
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>>548047063
don’t word it like that bobby…
>>548036408
It’s alright but randos are better
>>548036607
None of them
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Heart anon here:

It was a false alarm, the cardiologist said I have a very pretty heart with wonderful arteries (sic), it’s just that I should be less angry all the time.
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>>548038872
One day nayve trust the plan
>>548040641
Because chaos cults are usually poorly equipped to begin with. It takes a long time for them to make any progress in terms of acquiring assets, same thing with Genestealers
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>>548045036
>>548045270
And that’s a good thing! (Mine is actually normal and not a reference to anything)
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>>548053083
>doctor says I should play less coop games
I'm so sorry, bro...
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>>548046864
>>548047127
This. Not sure why it’s surprising or hard to believe, the game is pretty much solved and there are builds that everyone knows about that can steamroll the game
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>>548053639
Yeah I think I'll play Rogue Trader instead, got it for sale
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>>548053758
Rogue Trader is fantastic, enjoy. I'll spoiler this but if you want a broken build go pyromancer into executioner. They did nerf it but it's still very strong and fun.
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>>548048531
>On December 2 we're giving the entire community a reward befitting the winning choice to recover the rations!
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>>548053930
ty dude I'll just go with the flow
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Of the two Rune Blades for Zealot which one do you guys pick?
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>>548048531
Uh... I swear it was supposed to be a trinket initially.
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>548055893
I like the mkII relic blade. It's similar to the mkIII eviscerator where its light attack spam is better at chopping elites, and you can pull out the heavies selectively for thick hordes or crushers.
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>>548055867
Enjoy
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the real reward for recovering is the hacked together Ganger class
you could have had SoB but you proved yourselves unworthy
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>>548048531
omg I love getting tiny little pointless pictures in my vidya games
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>>548039356
It's not "ideas guy" shit to wonder why the class that seems to have been built with CC and AoE damage (range and melee) in mind is worse at both of these things than (arguably) three other classes.

Saying that is just an obvious statement of fact. Now, if you were like going to talk about some fictitious skill tree that has all sorts of autistic detail, and a bunch of weapons that don't exist in the game, or all that shit? Yeah, sure. Ideas guy shit.
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>>548053083
That’s good to hear bud guess you just aren’t built for the path of Khorne maybe put in an application with Tzeentch or Nurgle they have positions open I hear
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>>548039356
>>548057264
All they need to do is reverse the nerfs they did to ogryn recently.
I wouldn't mind some other tweaks to the skilltree, like reworking FNP and PBB.
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>>548053083
Stop lurking here then.
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>>548048531
Goddammit Sweden
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i think a weapon being good or strong is secondary to how fun it is. the power falchion mk1's light attack string is my favorite in the entire franchise. there isn't a single weapon whose basic attacks make me so happy. when no one is looking, i often pretend im swinging it irl
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>>548055893
MKII feels faster and has a better move set
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>>548053083
Toe anon here, it looks like my toe is getting better after I stopped using the antibiotic cream and started taking antibiotic pill.
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>start of Clandestum Gloriana
>walking along, Arbiter keeps shooting their shotgun into singular poxwalkers while completely ignoring specials, not even halfway through the starting section before they get to yellow ammo
>ingenious idea
>double-tap a barrel right next to them
>my loose cannon vet shouts LOOKS LIKE LOOTING SEASON'S OPEN AGAIN as they go careening off the cliff
>mfw
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>private game penance
>solo play mod doesn't allow penance progress
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>>548060812
If you got any friends in DT you could ask them for help.
Could also just text in the lobby asking "Anyone want to help me with a private game penance"
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>>548060812
drop your friend code, bro bro
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>>548053083
>should be less angry all the time.
pussy shit, stay khorne pilled
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>>548047296
>not sure if this is true or not though
It is. Just roll up in some match with bots and BB that penance.
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If you play hive scum and get downed in my lobby I will not get you up but stand over you and watch you die
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>>548061747
Yeah how dare people try to get some fresh gameplay into a stale as fuck game.
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>>548061971
hes roleplaying as an arbitrator anon
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If you get downed in my lobby, I will pick you up faster than you can even react and then go down again because I maxed revive speed
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>>548061335
>Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, only that it flows
>it was from his anus not his hands
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>>548062683
based. I do this too. When someone dies, I revive them even if they're in the flames of hell itself, and if they can't deal with the situation, not my problem.
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What turns people into such little pathetic asslickers
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>>548063192
why are you complaining about receiving free words?
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>5 days left till hive scum
>9 seconds of gameplay footage shown
are these niggers serious
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>>548063737
Snow in Stockholm.
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why did they put a goatse on a mission preview
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>>548060745
this makes so much sense…
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>>548063946
I never noticed this..... Looks like a tyranid goatsee
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>>548063192
they didn't turn this is how they were born.
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>frames frames frames
lmao
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>>548063192
>>548064309
>"Im getting free stuff thats completely inconsequential? Im going to shit my diaper over this for some vague and barely understood reason"
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>>548064645
I don't even read these posts anymore
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>>548064686
Except you had to read this in order to point out that you dont read these posts anymore
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>>548064825
only needed to see it was green
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>>548063192
>>548064645
dios mio... they have merged
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>>548064645
>but broooo
>it's free
Yeah, I don't care.
If Fatshit wants me to give a flying of a fuck about these events and me playing them, they should add some actually good rewards as incentives.
No, I don't give a fuck about 150k ordo dockets. I already have the max 25 million.
No, I don't give a fuck about plasteel or diamantine either.
And no, I don't give a fuck about retarded badges, frames or keychains.
Either give me cool cosmetic armors and/or give me aquilas, or fuck off.
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>>548064645
What actual legitimate reason do you have to defend dogshit event rewards other than contrarianism and trying to defend a multimillion dollar company that could absolutely afford to come up with something more fun and interesting?

Try to come up with an answer that isn't just
>it's free so it doesnt matter if it's boring
or
>you shouldn't care if it's boring
because both of those are stupid superficial asslicker excuses
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>>548065376
>fatshark
>multimillion dollar company
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>slightly corrupted on vet
>retard pushes a burster into me while I'm doing a hacking puzzle
>die instantly
>some Jean-Mohammerde tries to talk shit
>my death mysteriously causes all of the specialists to no longer instantly die the moment they show up
>the faggot gets trapped before he can even finish his sentence
>starts raging on mic
>obviously wipe because literally everyone gets disabled
kek, gotta love instant karma
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>>548065376
If its boring then why do you care so much?
>>548065198
>"IF THESE DEVS WANT ME TO PLAY THE GAME THEN THEY NEED TO SATIATE MY MINDBROKEN OBSESSION WITH CHASING GOALS INSTEAD OF ENJOYING THE GAME!!!"
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>>548065456
>small indie dev!
tencent bought into fatshark for over 200 million brother. update your script
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>>548065584
post hours
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>>548065584
>If its boring then why do you care so much?
I don't care about the event reward at all and that's the issue. I want something worth caring about
it's also not about chaisng goals, it's just about being able to collect cool shit. When the fuck did that become a bad thing?
You're trying for these weird gotchas that make no fucking sense whatsoever lol
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>>548065584
>abloobloo
>no you must play the game events!
>how dare you expect some decent rewards that isn't just a PNG or keychain
Badwin, go back to the forums.
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>>548065610
Chinese money doesn't grant fatshark the magical ability to poof out content from thin air
I mean, just look at Africa
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>>548065790
>>548065871
Have you tried playing video games as a form of recreation and not as a medium to fulfill what youre missing in life?
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Crusher weapon is ass :(
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>>548065456
you're such a clueless fucking retard, google how much fatshark is worth
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>>548066052
I do already play them for fun. Even darktide.
I just don't care to play these dogshit events that are 90% of the time really fucking boring (like stomping giants which spawns fuck loads of ogryns and pogryns) and the rewards they give you are absolute trash that are not worth playing for.
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>>548066380
Youll live.
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>>548066052
yes? having cool things in an event would make it more recreationally interesting
What is this angle you're shooting for here? Why are you trying so hard to defend boring shit in a video game?

you seem really heated for no reason. You keep repeating stupid shit like
>oh you think the event reward is boring? it must be literally all you think about in your life.
why are you trying so hard to defend it with these weird deflections?
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>>548066218
Malice shitters love it
I'm not making it up, you can go to fatshark forums and see how they make up imaginary scenario how crusher will break the game if you make any attempt at buffing it
I knew something was off when they released a falchion, but it has been going on for a much longer time already
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>>548066572
>you seem really heated for no reason.
Projecting. Youre getting red in the face over something that doesnt matter. Deep breaths, 'kay? You'll live. You dont have to use the frame. It will be alright.
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>>548066564
And both I and fatshark would also live if they put in some effort into the game.
Them adding a cool earnable cosmetic set is not going bankcrupt them.
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are there any other weapons like the shock maul and shield that have an "special" attack?
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>>548066735
didn't even try with this one. you're such a weirdo doing this stupid bait shit over and over again, get a life unironically
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>>548066218
It is in fact, okay. I like it on Arbiter. Knock everything around, spread brittleness and skullcrusher in a good sized area of effect. Not bad at killing if you do it right.
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>>548064645
>>548065584
>>548066052
Excellent bait. You’re sure to get more nibbles in a bit.
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>>548066737
>>548066793
Its going to be alright. You dont need to use the frame. Maybe Darktide isnt for you if youre getting this stressed out over a free item.
May I suggest the Sims?
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>>548048531
>that's it?
>that's the event reward?
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>Fatshark: Hey heres a free frame for that event.
>Coopg for some reason:
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Why were Stormvermin patrols so much more memorable in VT1?
https://youtu.be/dVygRFO8wl0?si=cUseQ_VHEvlDUHbp&t=14
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A.... FREE FRAME?!?!?!?!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WERE NOT GETTING 500 NEW MAPS AND 38947 NEW WEAPONS ALL WITH 398572358243664328439252 NEW VOICE LINES ACROSS EVERY CLASS SPECIFIC TO THEM AS WELL AS PLAYABLE SPACE MARINES?!?!?!?!?!
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>>548040641
hive cities are literally just breeding grounds for cannon fodder

what you see now is what the eldar and tau normally see as their local sector's hive world continuously vomits out army after army of guardsmen onto every xenos world within a few weeks' warp travel
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epic trolling, everyone, you gottem
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>>548067204
Stormvermin was the only elite. Patrols were the big obstacle, with weapons being much more limited in handling massed armour. Also their sounds actually worked.
There are patrols in Darktide, but there are already so many elites mixed people barely notice. They don't standout and they have no personality.
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>fatshark bootlicker mindbroken because people say that a shitty frame (we've gotten like half dozen other ones at this point) is pretty lame event reward
Never change Badwin
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>>548066926
you are sad. you know trolling doesn't work when people start to genuinely pity you instead of falling for your ragebait stuff right
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>>548041829
grandpa nurgle provides. they probably have photosynthetic bacteria and/or viruses that turn the local population into a photosynthetic or chemosynthetic bottom layer of the foodchain for the others
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>>548067759
Im not trolling. Its a genuine suggestion. Its not normal to get this upset over something so inconsequential. This is a video game, bro. It aint that serious.
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>>548067147
>hey Fatshark, can you speed up game dev, make new skins and stuff?
>yeah sure here is frame #235 delayed by weeks from planned release
>also we are going on vacation right after new class release, lets hope nothing breaks ;)
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>>548067871
you don't have to keep trying, I already told you it's blatant and makes me feel bad for you more than anything else. I genuinly hope you can internalize that and realize how pathetic what you're doing is, and use your time better to improve your life
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>>548067204
the music, and the fact they were noticeably faster when aggrod
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>>548067692
right, its like how on low levels people warn whats guarding them when they respawn.
but, on Damn hi-int+ etc: lol lmao.
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>>548066052
>still didn't post his hours
lol
beyond obvious, dance some more you chimping out clown kek
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>>548043753
>6-7k people at peak hours
>each person plays 3-5 runs
>each run averages 700-1500 kills
>each run has 4 people
so we get ( 6000 / 4 ) * 4 * 1000 = 6 million kills every single day just from the people playing on steam during peak hours

it has been 1093 days since the game released

that would give us a floor of 6 billion kills. the real figure being much higher
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>>548067871
>you're all so upset
if you say so (you are the only one saying so)
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>>548067204
I suppose because most weapons only tickled them so it would be very easy to get cornered if you couldn't kite them. That said v1 stormvermin have no running attacks so they are only a problem if you have nowhere to go as it's nearly impossible to get hit unless you're standing still.
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>>548068043
It kinda loops back around to being useful information in havoc, though moreso when pointing out that NOTHING is guarding you, so your teammates know that reviving you is free, especially if someone has revive speed.
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>>548068027
What Im doing? Im not losing my shit over pixels on a screen. Im happy because I got to play the event and had fun with it. Sorry if the fun of doing something has been beaten out of you.
>>548068203
But you are???
Look at all the replies here: >>548048531
Youre all livid.
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>>548068370
Bro you really need to learn when to stop, literally nobody is falling for what you're trying to do, everyone is telling you that it's sad to try and "troll" so blatantly. Get a life
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>>548063737
Our beloved youtube celebrities will tell us everything there is to know about the gangster scum once the info blackout ends on friday.
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>>548068460
have any of them even said the embargo ends on friday
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>>548068370
>pointing out fatshark's incompetence = u mad
retard
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>>548068370
It's not even funny anymore lol
Everyone called you out already, why are you still chimping out???
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>>548068459
>Get a life
I do. Its why I'm not shitting my diaper over a video game cosmetic.
>>548068514
This isnt about fatshark. This is about you getting stressed out over something that doesnt mattter.
>>548068515
Im not livid though? I just said youre all acting like manchildren over a video game cosmetic for no reason.
Im sorry you all cant find joy in playing the game itself.
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>>548068507
Jo and Monsieur E both, yes, down to the hour
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>>548068684
>all this inane and desperate projecting
lol
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>>548068951
The irony of your statement
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is arbites shock maul gameplay just special spamming?
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>>548066740
Literally all of them.
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>>548069005
Everyone is literally laughing in your face, you're the only one projecting and desperately insisting everyone is le mad
Get a grip and develop some self-awareness, it's embarrassing to even look at lol
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>>548069162
Why should I concern myself with the opinion of manchildren that cant enjoy a game anymore to the point where they get red in the face when they get something for free?
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>>548069278
>why should I concern myself???
We've seen you reply to literally everyone in this thread
Again, beyond embarrassing lol
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>>548068684
at this point I just genuinely feel bad for you that you keep going, it's sort of a blackpill about autism
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>>548069441
>>548069631
You seem extremely stressed out and concerned about what I think of your opinion.
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>>548069720
Who are you even talking to lol
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>>548069162
I agree with him, except there's no point in antagonising someone who will sperg out over a complete nothingburger
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>>548068370
>Youre all livid.
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guys chill out.... there's a new 2 hour 30 minutes video for us to watch
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>>548069885
It seems you are experiencing stress induced memory loss.
>>548070159
Yes. I am correct. You all got stressed out over a free frame. I cant believe Fatshark made the game unplayable like this! How could they do this to their loyal players!
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>>548067147
It should have been a second new class for this event that basically took no extra effort
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>>548070267
jesus I hope I never end up like this guy just spamming replies to everyone insisting they're mad
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>>548070486
Youll live
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>>548070164
There is?????? Im chillio
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>>548070673
Yeah..... It's about arbitus though
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>>548070894
Oh ok I'm mad again
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>>548070978
Nooooo sweetie...
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>>548070978
Want a free frame to calm down?
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>>548040641
Lord Dreg Shotgunner is just too powerful. He has countless millions of troops.
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>>548069009
No, that's zealot shock maul gameplay because juicing its damage to relevant numbers is kinda hard there.
Arbitrator has access to some really juicy damage nodes that are really easy to trigger, as well as a bunch of rending. It's a pretty competent weapon on the pig. You kind of use it like a worse Rashad that knocks everything on its ass instead of instagibbing. Its main use is evaporating void shields with lights or specials, and Skullcrusher skullfucking all kinds of bosses (assuming you aren't the only source of damage). Stunning bulwarks and armor with the special is just nice quality of life, not the reason you use it on piggy.
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Soon I'll be finally able to play the game
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>>548069009
>>548071659
Wait I'm retarded lmao, I keep forgetting that arbitrator has its own maul. I assume you mean the two handed big one.
No, that one just spams either the push followthrough into heavy or whatever the combo was for cleave, or the heavy overhead -> light -> heavy overhead for single target. Heavy -> swap swap -> heavy is technically more DPS.
I don't even know how useful the special is, it's just a DPS monster with overheads.
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Khorne runs this general
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>>548072117
Definitely not Tzeentch, not even close.
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>>548072117
KHORNE!
KHORNE!
KHORNE!
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>>548071806
the one handed maul
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>>548072289
Is the class specific one not two handed? It's been ages since I've used it.
Either way >>548071806 still applies. It's really not a complicated weapon, but I doubt special spam is all that good.
As far as I remember, a heavy shocks the target, and special applies a powerful DoT to shocked targets, so you want to start with a heavy, but I believe just spamming overheads is better anyway. Might be worth testing, but basically nobody uses the special anyway.
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what's likelihood of arbites going on sale during the winter sale?
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Wasn't the deal that we get free content but paid cosmetics? why are they spamming paid updates now
are there gonna be changes to how cosmetics work? I'd honestly prefer paying for content with free cosmetics
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>>548042425
>>548042591
I've killed over 1 million by myself
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>>548072869
The should give it at least 20% off if they are smart
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>>548072869
very low, Darktide doesn't do big sales
Even the imperial edition upgrade is carefully tuned to never actually give you a good deal on the aquilas on sales
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>>548071806
I just spam light attacks with it
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>>548074107
>just be retarded and do dogshit damage
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>>548072917
you're getting a free 3 minute map
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>>548074376
It might be a small map but it's probably extremely densely filled with unique cool things and absolutely no copypasted assets
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>>548048531
it saved them from having to make two frames. Don't underestimate Swedes in dodging work.
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Don't the twins have East London accents? That's what I'm expecting from at least one voice.
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>>548070164
Mr Lindberg always has... interesting... opinions. I might listen to his words later tonight. There is no guarantee I will heed them, however.
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>>548075445
Hard to tell how effective the needler is from this clip
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>>548075445
shit looks busted
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wooooooooooow I love not being able to see anything, such good game design, bravo fatshark!!
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>>548075445
I like the crowbar, but why is PoV uselessly panic flailing around like a retard when the horizontal cleave combo fucking annihilates those poxers. Just fucking push lol
>dies to a burster
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>>548075445
>mfw a homemade nail gun and rusty crowbar swung by a junkie will outdps a power sword and plasma gun wielded by the emperor's finest
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>>548075445
i now realize the crowbar is just going to be a bully club equivalent, and the dart pistol will be hagbane of sorts
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>>548075445
>blockpush horizontal on crowbar
i cum
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>>548075891
Should've bun be born in space London
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>>548075445
not that it needed very special anims, but the crowbar animation looks 100% reused. and what was the point of this clip... showing him shooting a guy in the but once with the needle gun
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>>548075445
>"this clip is fucking abysmal"
>"upload it"
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>>548072934
We're all poxbreakers here.
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>>548076218
the guy probably spent hours playing the game sweating to get good footage...
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>>548075445
>it's not darktide's coghammer
Stupid fucks
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>>548075445
calling it now, the nail gun will have terrible range
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>>548075445
>needle gun just does another color of the tox gas coming off dreg bombers with the dispersement pattern of soulblaze
kek
inb4 the autist retard that unironically posts AI slop and fatshark forum posts as "proof" of their hard work
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>>548075445
>tell people the needle gun won't be that good
>BUT LE PENETRATES ANY ARMOR!
>fails to kill a fucking trapper on probably like the easiest difficulty
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>>548075445
>uppercut diagonal
I fucking hate this company.
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>>548075891
Needlers are fairly exotic assassination weapons. It's not the same as the exquisite models Rogue Traders or the Officio Assassinorum can get but it's still a big step above niggerrigged zipgun tier.
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>>548072117
this is a slaaneshi tit hive
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>>548072869
happy thanksgiving anon
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>>548076696
I think it killed it, you can hear the noise? but still, pointless to argue a dogshit clip
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>>548076608
It's not a nailgun. It's a needler that fires poison darts
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Daily reminder that cleave doesn't increase the damage you do to multiple enemies it just makes it so you can hit 1 or 2 more guys for a small percentage of your attack damage.
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>>548076696
Remember the arbie showcase. It's a grey weapon with no blessing.
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>>548076679
He must really have btfo you
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>>548075445
>thought the needle gun was cool because of the laser penetrating armor
>this one actually doesn't have the laser part, it just fires the needle with toxin, DOT applicator
>my prediction of hive ganger having a rusty nailgun is actually not far off the mark
hahaha
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>>548076696
You're exactly the kind of retard who thought the arbites shotgun would be weak. He hit it with 1 or 2 shots and killed it
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>>548077067
getting blown by chatgpt isn't as pleasant as you might think
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>>548076032
I noticed that too. Generic shovel sweep push attack, generic diagonal lights, and the uppercut diagonal heavy reminds me of another wep but I can't place it right now. Shock maul maybe?
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Can someone post the promo picture that shows off the deluxe cosmetics for the hive scum?
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>>548076937
>It's a grey weapon with no blessing.
But why would you do that?
>here's some cool clips to drive up hype
>lets do the poorest fucking job at it and make the class and its weapons look like fucking trash
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>>548077310
I bet. Sounds like you're still seething about it
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>>548077238
I never said the arbites shotgun would be weak. Try again.

>>548076937
Unless it's 0/80 stats it's just a more cumbersome bolt pistol with what appears to be almost exactly the same firerate (when ADS) or a much worse revolver, unless the DOT damage is huge and ignores armor.
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>>548077467
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>>548076907
>it fires used heroin needles
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>>548077576
I really hope some of the normal cosmetics are even remotely close to trenchcoat guy. I don't want to look at meth addicts in every match.
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>>548077537
>I never said the arbites shotgun would be weak
I never said you did. I said you were the same kind of retard as they were
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>>548077510
>But why would you do that?
Sheer incompetence.
The arbites trailer was just as bad. The editor had to do some massively heavy lifting.
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>>548077576
danke schön mein neger
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>>548076696
You can quite literally see that
>first shot hits
>second shot misses
>trapper dies from the dot anyway
So, assuming that it's gray weps like with the arbites showcase... that seems incredibly good. Oneshotting trappers is a big deal for a wep that seems this fast and is dot based. It means two shots will almost certainly kill havoc trappers
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>>548077576
Those weapons look like a fucking bad joke lmao, especially the scissor "knife" lol
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>>548077731
>plays the meth addict class
>i don't want to look like a meth addict
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>>548077797
Ein klein döner, mein herr?
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>>548077760
Whatever you say, dumbass.
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>>548077959
>like gameplay
>dislike the look
Is it really that hard of a concept to grasp, retardditor?
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>>548077731
If it's like arbites then 80% of peopel will have the deluxe edition
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>>548077968
BITTE
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>>548071669
Based fellow masteryCHAD. Most missing weapons are close to mastery, it's mostly just Ogryn shit left to do (haven't even used shield since launch). How are you supposed to use this properly at all in non-shitter difficulties? Never cared for it when allies had it anyway. I've said it before on here, but doing this mastery nonsense has been pretty fun, it has made me a better player and realise that most weapons are actually pretty decent or good, but may struggle at top-end of bullshit/difficulty, sadly. I also really liked using high mobility melee weapons on psyker as they are generally a slow and sluggish class.
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>>548077959
>plays the meth addict class
Not in my Lex.
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>>548078073
So you just lost an argument against a dumbass?
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>>548078435
>psyker
>a slow and sluggish class
Uh? You don't have a scrier's destiny build?
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>>548067586
Which is based since when we do it it’s good
>>548067147
Ok
>>548067692
Assuming we’re talking about the same thing they have a little personality
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>>548078572
*blocks ur lex*
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>>548079114
Done that for some penances.
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>>548068760
>Monsieur E
Kek
>>548069009
I look like that and do that
>>548074457
This but unironically
>t. knower
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>>548079162
>Ok
Thats what I said. Not sure why everyone here got so bent out of shape over something so inconsequential
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>>548079274
THE LEX IS THE LEX
Even the Inquisitor doesn't want to deal with the Arbites having proper jurisdiction.
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>>548079443
>t. knower
apparently didnt know that they already showcased copypasted assets
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I just failed a clutch. A sniper was sitting on the lap of a daemonhost, camping the respawn totem.
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>>548076809
>>548076907
>>548077187
>>548077720
>>548075445
no matter how you look at it i think everyone was expecting something with a little more… flash? emphasis? it just looks kind of bland for what’s arguably the most unique weapon of the class, both in appearance and function.
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>>548079605
at least you were the last one standing, you tried to save everyone
the blame goes to the one faggot who died first
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>>548079791
Aww don't worry, the shop will have cool skins for it :)
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>>548079791
What did you expect of a poison dart gun used for assassination though? Bright purple muzzle flash or sparks flying off the target?
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>>548079791
The dual guns are way cooler than anything we have
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>>548079791
>>548080546
Both ogryn and ganger get dual wielding bolters. Trust the plan.
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I think I realize why Im dissatisfied with darktide rn. Im too fucking slow.
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>>548080546
do the bullets come from both guns or centered on the character model?
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>>548077512
(You)

>>548080681
sorry gramps this is a zoomer game
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>>548080739
I'm a little over month to 35, he's just slow.
There's also a lot of experience from VT1 and 2.
And I feel TF2 "knowledge" helps a lot.
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>>548080681
if people on console can make it to havoc 40 then you can too
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>>548080694
Hard to tell
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>>548080694
Don't all bullets in this game come from the center?
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>>548075445
Why do they ALWAYS FUCKING PUSH WHEN THERE IS NOTHING NEARBY TO PUSH???? EVERY CLIP THEY PUT OUT.
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>>548075445
Am I taking crazy pills or does the Dodge on the HIV CUM look really god far and fast?
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>>548075445
At this point I have to believe someone internally at Fatshark INSISTS that the gameplay in these videos has to be low skill and cretinous. It has to be on purpose.
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>>548082465
To show off the moveset and they are still stuck in vermintide
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finally got a giga computer to run games bros
let's go
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>>548082745
the first one sure but I dont get this reaction for this specific clip. He's showing more awareness and skill than 99% of my teammates
>peels for himself by pushing poxies to take out a gun and dodge then shoot a trapper

Of course he then immediately heavies a poxburster after the clip ends but you can't win em all
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>>548082663
Hive Scum is the "elf" class, all damage and mobility.
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>>548083154
Magnuson said in the interview the ganger is more like slayer bardin.
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>>548083154
I never felt the damage part of the elf, with kruber I clink on things and they die while elf must do some esoteric combos to do the same
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>>548082981
>Vermintide
>Gigacomputer

You could run that shit on a Steam deck
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>>548084462
>AMD Athlon X4 645
>1050ti
>8GB RAM
i dont think u understood my pain when trying to play this game.....
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>>548080085
They’re mentions of them having a laser that’s used to burn through armor. That would have been cool to see
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>>548075891
>homemade nail gun
Hello tourist. Needle weapons are advanced technology.
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>>548084413
Wake me when Scummer gets a leap skill.
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>inb4 the line is actually broker I hardly knew er
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>>548084413
But it has no charge attack and is clearly more mobile and it has dual knives, a glaive and ranged weapons
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>>548079791
Needle weapons are literally BUILT for assassination. It goes against the point for it to be flashy.
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>>548083154
Aeldari guns and snipers are so cool bros…..
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>>548084559
Except its also mentioned that the lazer is invisible because again what would the point of an ASSASSINATION STEALTH WEAPON be if its noticeable?
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>>548084534
th-thanks game
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>>548077720
it fires a potent neurotoxin its an advanced piece of tech thats been used by human assassins for millennia even on terra.
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>>548085234
A lot of tide game auto settings don't make a lot of sense.
I have a 5800X3D and a 9070, and I turn a lot of shit off manually just because I can.
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>>548085291
perfect weapon for a crackhead
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>>548085690
And turn other things up, obviously.
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>>548084696
>But it has no charge attack
Rampage ability.
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>>548086016
that has a charge?
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>>548086352
No
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>>548086385
then what did you mean by that
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>>548086559
He's high on stims
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>>548075445
crowbar looks extremely op, good damage, insane range and cleave
about needler, I'll pretend they did not show it
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makes me think of that tiktok of the fake autistic girl spazzing out behind the overlayed text of "happy stims"
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>>548087345
The needler killed the trapper
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>>548087769
I mean this fragment doesn't show needler
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>>548088152
Huh? It does, he's shooting it
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>>548087345
I don't know how on earth you are coming to that conclusion about the crowbar on the easiest difficulty. The moveset looks total ass outside of the push attack.
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so the niggler does DOT and nothing else?
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>>548053083
Wart anon here, they had to smear the underside of my foot with acid and then burn the warts with a laser and now the entire underside of my foot has peeled off twice over but the warts are gone
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any news´ yet?
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>>548089187
It probably does some sort of actual damage, but very pitiful damage. I have no idea what the blessings would even do on that with raw damage so poor. AOE spread of DOT if the first target got a critical hit from the gun before it died? Brittleness 2.0? Targets take more damage from all (other) sources while infected?
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>>548089187
It's inferno staff but single target and takes ammo
What's important is how many stacks it inflicts and caps out at, and how much rending it has.
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>>548089480
Nigger you got a mission
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>>548089684
just a mission and it was long time ago
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>>548089595
I really don't think the rending matters when it doesn't kill an uprising trapper in 1 shot. Using this thing on a crusher for raw damage and not the DOT is probably gigaretarded without a hyper specialized meme build that would probably function 3x better with revolver.
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>>548089828
A WEEK AGO STOP SPAMMING AND PLAY VIDYA
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>>548089514
It seems to do a lot of damage, one hit kills a trapper in the clip
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>>548090113
settle down okey?
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>>548080085
>>548084774
>umm it's actually supposed to look and sound like shit because uhh muh lore ok?
Retarded cope, but ok lol
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>>548090332
People are asking you to suggest an alternative. How would you prefer a needle payload weapon if not like this?
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>>548090191
That clip doesn't show it because the gun barely has a shooting effect, but the actual video has audio and the trapper takes a second shot before it does very slightly after to the DOT.
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damn, vermintide II looks great
repeater gun is fun as fug
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>>548090438
the second shot doesnt go anywhere near the trapper, it gets oneshot by the first hit after the dot ticks
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>>548079569
That was different they changed stuff around at the last minute I saw it
>>548088697
>t.
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>>548090525
>verstappen
>all smiles
If only you knew what really goes on.
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>>548090743
PS3 wont help lando and verstappen is coming back to hunt that homosexual's ass
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>>548090661
I rewatched in slowmo and was going to fix that statement, the player misses the second shot. So it does to the first shots DOT after like 1.5 seconds. And that's not "getting oneshot". The gun itself does similar damage to like an autogun it seems.
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crowbar looks like the non-arbie shock maul without the shock, the combos, at least
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>>548090332
Yes lore is king you tourist.
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>>548076845
>$7.35 for 2500 Aquilas
Thats a good deal.
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>>548085124
>>548084774
I’ll be honest I thought they came in flasher variants but it turns out those are actually pretty rare and definitely wouldn’t be used by a ganger…
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>>548090851
>And that's not "getting oneshot".
Don't be pedantic, if it takes one shot to kill the trapper it's getting oneshot. Like with all dot weapons the important part is how many dot stacks it applies, nothing else. I predict it will have a blessing or mark that makes it work like the hagbane
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>>548089936
>injects 100% rending stim
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>>548091649
Oneshot is "I shot the target and it died". Not "I shot the target and it kept running at me for a bit". Needler might actually get people downed or netted when you need something to actually die-die asap.
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>>548091835
I use a puncture bolt pistol all the time and have never had issues with it
I bet the needler is even less weakspot dependant
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>>548091835
so kraks dont oneshot things because the explosion is delayed and the impact damage doesnt kill it instantly?
again, don't be pedantic about random stupid shit like this, it makes you seem actively mentally disabled
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>>548073828
Your post didn't age well
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>>548092282
You're being pedantic by trying to compare a grenade to a gun that relies on DOT to kill something sometime after it was shot.
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>>548092074
bolt pistol staggers the thing you shot and everything around it however
needler didn't even stagger one of the easiest specials to knock around while it was running away, maybe there could be a blessing for shots to stagger?
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How many days until we’re all infected with hiv cum?
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>>548092418
I guess but you can't call a 2 dollar discount very significant either
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>>548092696
We'll find out soon enough. Maybe it's better for ramping up damage against monsters or something
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Given how lazy fatshart is, the code for the new damage type is probably recycled wholesale from bleed but made slower and chunkier so that they don't collide and create a spaghetti code implostion.
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BY THE SIX HOLIES
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>poisoning Nurgle worshippers
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>>548093487
>throws pox grenade at poxwalkers
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>>548093487
poison are chemical
virus/disease are biological
bacteria also create poisonous chemicals I guess
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>>548093487
It's bleach
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>>548084413
He said a mix of elf and slayer, not just one of them
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>>548093487
Space Penicillin.
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>>548093487
Works for Tyranids and Dark Eldar
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>>548093487
>chemical works against disease WOAH
I thought all of you jeets were eating antibiotics like candy?
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>>548093626
Correct. Tourists can't even fathom this basic biology and chemistry.
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>>548093487
Rather than retarded criticisms like this, I wish someone would point out that there was no need to introduce a new status effect if it's just going to be yet another stacking dot just like the 3 existing ones. What's the point?
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>>548093487
It’s worked before, most infamously for the tyranids arguably. Those are two different things btw
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VT1's lighting and color scheme is a lot more dramatic and harsh than VT2's comparatively greyish look
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>>548095459
>What's the point?
Different class thematics
Why doesn't the flamer just shoot bleed juice?
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>>548095459
Why does psyker need mind fire instead of just regular fire huh?
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>>548095641
>class thematics
Why does Ogryn, Zealot, and Veteran share the same bleed theme?
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>>548095641
I meant it more in the sense of, why not make them do unique things at least? I know there's gonna be talent interactions but I mean inherently
Also won't it sorta break boss balance now that I think about it? You can now have 4 different types of dots on a boss. Minmaxing potential increased
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>>548095459
>NOOOOO DON'T DO MORE DOT'S
>BECAUSE...
>???
sybau
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>>548095969
>sybau
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>>548095853
>why not make them do unique
Go on and describe how you would make a DoT effect unique.
>won't it sorta break boss balance
>when TH exists
Shut up, dumb nigger.
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>Last played end of July
anything new beside plasma gunners
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>>548075445
>there are people who are excited for this actual dogshit class
ngmi
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>>548096093
>trans vegas
oof
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>>548096146
Don't do DoT and use any myriad of other weapons gangers have access to? They already did 2 other guns even if basic.
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>>548096146
THs drawback is that you have to use a TH, don't be retarded you monkey

>Go on and describe how you would make a DoT effect unique.
make it slow enemies, increase damage taken, make the toxin paralyze them at full stacks, make the toxin create acid mist that does some aoe damage
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>>548096337
>le poisoned weapons slathered in who knows what
>NOOO DON'T DO THE DOT BRO
Are you retarded? Why the fuck not?
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>>548096285
"mortis trials"
bolter and bolter pistol marks
aside from that Sister of Battle and Skitarii schizophrenics here
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>>548096353
>my solution for a toxin is instead of it being deadly make it useless!
Holy shit, you are retarded!
>toxin create acid mist
Isn't it literally how the blitz works?
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>>548096532
>add DoT to class
>retard argues that adding DoT to class retroactively justifies the DoT in a retarded ouroboros
holy retard
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>>548096723
Wtf are you even trying to say, jeet?
>dot is bad because... there's already dot in the game on other classes?
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>>548096917
You can't even make a coherent argument and resorted to calling me a streetshitter. Cope some more.
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>>548096697
I didnt say to scratch the damage aspect, just to make it distinct from the other things. I have to ask, do you have some sort of sexual fetish of always reading the absolute worst out of everything? Are you the mentally disabled doomjeet?
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>>548097015
Concesion accepted, jeet.
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No Ready or Not is a great game and story I just wasn't expecting that
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>>548097067
>make it distinct from the other thing
>by making it shit
>woah it stuns one enemy!
Yeah, whatever retard.
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>>548097071
I can smell the feces from the designated shitting street from here, "Arnold" from the call center. Might want to get some indoor plumbing and wash your hands sometime soon. Maybe live in a first world country where being paid $5 a day to shill the laziest design choice for a Swedish studio is somehow a good career.
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>>548097219
>making it shit
how is having an added effect ontop of the dot "making it shit"
You must genuinely have a sexual addiction to dooming, these are actually insane reads into what I write
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>>548097249
>I can smell the feces
No shit you can, you're in the middle of Dharavi after all.
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>>548097348
I see figures of speech are in fact lost on ESL's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16jW6uyXeA
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>>548097332
What makes you think it doesn't have any other effects? A mine second clip?
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HIV CUM
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>>548097427
>>548097071
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>>548097517
They wrote about it in the devblog and didn't mention any
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>>548097456
This time he WILL get that korean poon, I'm rooting for him.
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>>548097710
They haven't said how DoT works on needlers, nice try.
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>>548095793
Why add a forth class that shares it?
I'm hearing
>scum don't add anything new!
And
>why is this scum thing new???
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>>548098023
I assume this means the needler since they're used to poison shit in the lore
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>>548095853
The scum has talents that change how poisons affect the enemy in ways that are different from other dots
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>>548098541
They could've done that with bleed too. I'm just saying it's kind of a pointless distinction when it does nothing differently. You'd expect poison and bleed to be fundamentally different in a game no?
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>>548098717
They need to go on their 3-month vacation soon. Stop trying to make them work holidays.
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>>548098528
>homebrewed
>no specifics
So it can benefit from the meth lab three.

Anyway, this new character will have DoT. You can cry and piss your panties about it but in the end you will deal with it.
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>>548098846
>So it can benefit from the meth lab three.
>three
now you're just making shit up, saar
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>>548098846
>So it can benefit from the meth lab three.
thats not what I would assume just because it says "homebrewed", it sounds more like flavor

>Anyway, this new character will have DoT. You can cry and piss your panties about it but in the end you will deal with it.
what a honestly strange reaction to a normal discussion. You act like a 12 year old who knows 4chan is the edgy place so you act it out in every post. To begin with I never complained about it having a dot, just that the dot doesn't seem distinct.
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>>548098717
Done what to bleed? Make enemies bleed in different ways?
>I'm just saying it's kind of a pointless distinction
It's an ovious THEMATIC distinction.
>You'd expect poison and bleed to be fundamentally different in a game no?
Not really, no. Why do you?
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>>548099043
>assume
Don't care about your assumptions.
>strange reaction
Yeah, new char having it's own source of DoT breaking your mind is a strange reaction.
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>>548099168
>Done what to bleed? Make enemies bleed in different ways?
Yea there's talents like that the zealot tree.

>It's an ovious THEMATIC distinction.
Yeah but why only thematic? It would be more fun and interesting if it was also different mechanically too.

>not really, no
Well shit I guess I'm the odd one out for thinking burn, bleed and poison should be mechanically different. Whats next, they add cold and it doesn't slow?
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>>548098717
You are asking a lot of questions that will all be answered tomorrow
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>>548099297
>Yeah, new char having it's own source of DoT breaking your mind is a strange reaction.
Anon I hope you can do something with your life that is more pleasant than just sitting on 4chan and trying to rile up people having normal discussions with weird shit like this. If I was religious I'd pray for you because your behavior is incredibly troubled, this is absolutely not normal for any person
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>>548093487
it worked on the eyeball tree
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>>548097456
finally some good fucking footage
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>>548099331
>Yea there's talents like that the zealot tree.
Be specific, how would you make enemies bleed differently.
>It would be more fun and interesting if it was also different mechanically too.
Like what? Stunning them? That's the only positive I coulg get behind. Even then it might do exactly that. You don't know shit untill the skill trees are out.
>Well shit I guess I'm the odd one
You are, that's how DoTs work in diabloids and WoWoids. It's literally in the name ffs.
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>Loner Psyker VA is in Jagged Alliance 3 with the same voice ("Livewire")
Cute!
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>>548099492
>>548097071
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>>548099628
>Like what? Stunning them? That's the only positive I coulg get behind.
Yeah for example. I don't know it sounds like we agree but for some reason the other hostile retard made it sound like I'm shitting on the class/concept
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>>548067204
i have never seen them do that COMPANYYYY GO shout, pretty cool
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>>548099775
Well we agree on the stun only. It feels like that shitty dart gun shoult have a prominent effect that warrant ever using it. The other shit you brought up is just retarded.
It's either make the enemies convulse or make them spread toxins a la soulblaze.
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They should add a talent that causes poison to spread between enemies
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>>548100068
>The other shit you brought up is just retarded.
>or make them spread toxins a la soulblaze.
I said that. Sometimes I wonder where you people get off being so unreasonably hostile for absolutely no reason, but mostly i'm just glad I live a happier life than that
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>>548100173
>I live a happier life than that
How can you be happy unless you shit on prople online?
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>>548100173
That's the thing tho, you keep yapping about originality and your best example is stun. The same thing that a smigger does. The same thing that arbites maul/shield/mine and general shock maul does.
You're kind of a dumbass frankly.
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>>548100845
And zealot stun blitz
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>>548100143
cant wont/ thats what nurgle does
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>>548100845
suddenly the aoe stack spread idea doesnt exist again. you're gonna have an aneurysm if you get yourself this upset
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>>548101123
>NOOO IT SHOULD BE ORIGINAL
>ackshually just make it scum soulblaze
Concession accepted.
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If toxin doesnt make enemies melt it'll be gay
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>>548101240
Even though you said you liked the idea and you thought you brought it up, you shit on it now. You're being a contrarian to yourself. Unhinged
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>>548101257
It makes them COOF. They COOF for a millisecond until the exaction shotgun shot reaches them.
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>>548101420
>Even though you said
Doesn't matter what I've. ORIGINALITY was your point, not mine. Now pipe down and be humble.
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>>548101257
it'll just be Sister of Thorn's blackvenom, low damage but applies a damage vulnerability to the enemy.
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Replace flamer with Bleeder
Replace inferno staff with exsanguinato staff
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>>548101973
Replace flamer with *drum roll* TOX FLAMER
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>>548101741
So a potential crusher cucker?
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Replace flamer with cum hose
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Replace bullets with HIV syringes. Give them hereteics a suge knight special.
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>>548102426
>inject the heretics with a disease they are already infected with
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>>548101741
big if true
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>can't reload the revolver + shield while blocking
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>>548095459
>the 3 existing ones
You forgot the howevermany electricity dots and the fire grenade dot.
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>>548103390
Yeah, it's a shit weapon. No idea why would someone use it instead of zarona and maul+shield.
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>>548096336
The game was good trannies latching onto it makes no difference
>>548099504
That was a blessed shriveling ungulation or whatever different thing totally
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>>548103575
I use it for roleplay reasons
It's okay against reapers
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>>548103575
It's decent enough at killing specials, and has the gimmick to both push and heavy attack to trigger buffs without needing to swap.
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>>548101604
I never said it's about originality btw, just about mechanical distinction. Take your meds grandpa
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>>548103575
It's way better than the zarona
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>>548099638
Cute! More??
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>>548104275
Oh boy here we go!
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>>548104051
>it's just about mechanical distinction!
>stun 2.0
>soulblaze 2.0
Stop embarrassing yourself anytime.
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>>548101741
Is that good or bad?
>>548102103
>>548102272
>>548102540
>>548100492
>>548100173
Fair points all things considered
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>>548104442
>Hey let's make this dot stand out from other dots by tacking on a different effect
>NO! THAT EFFECT ALREADY EXISTS OUTSIDE OF DOTS!
stfu lol
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>>548104842
>hey let's this thing stand out by being like that other thing!
Damn, you're pathetic.
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>>548104969
If thats a bad thing then why did they add another dot even though dots already exist? Checkmate, bad faith retard
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>>548097517
>>548097219
>>548096697
>>548096146
>>548099168
How would you feel if you hadn't had lunch?
>burn
Enemies deal 1% less damage per stack
>bleed
Enemies attack 1% slower per stack
>soulfire
Enemies move 1% slower per stack
>scum poison
All of the above (it's a paid dlc) 0.5% per stack
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>>548105110
I never argued it's a bad thing. Strawmanning like that is a another concession from you. You're basically BTFOing yourself.
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>>548105394
I've spent my money on the deluxe edition.
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>>548075445
The visual feedback for the needle pistol just looks atrocious, even VT2's hagbane shortbow at least explodes in a poison cloud, where this thing just looks and sounds bad, might as well have just gave them a silenced pistol with tox rounds instead.
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>>548105921
>at least explodes in a poison cloud
Well it's a NEEDLE pistol, it shouldn't have any visual effects at all.
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>>548105394
He's just gonna tell you thats all boring and bad even though thats on par with all the existing talents/debuffs in the game
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Ate arbiters
Ate inquisitors
Luv me fent
Luv me mum
Simple as
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>>548105405
>Hehe you strawmanned me actually I agree with you
most argumentative retard award
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>>548108014
>>548097071
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>>548107257
Giving your discord buddy a tugjob won't distract from a fact that you got BTFO.
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>>548106095
Doesn't really matter when it's something that should be there for gameplay feedback, like how bleeding enemies seem to just sputter blood from everywhere.
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I thought Atoma was the name of the hive city, but it's actually the name of the planet
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>>548109459
Hitmarker not enough for you lil bro?
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>>548110739
FER ATOMA
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>>548111156
FER THA LEEEEEEEEX
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I think I'm gonna wait and see what slop is in the shop for scummies, those deluxe cometics are kinda eh.
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>>548111156
Better than breakfast!
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>>548111548
compared to what we've little we've seen of the ganger's unlockable cosmetics that deluxe character skin is looking awfully good by comparison
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16jW6uyXeA
Are we ready bros?
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>>548111156
>>548111207
FEN TANYL
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>>548112296
>15 hours
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>>548112296
I'm ready for chococell to spill his spaghetti again.
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It hurts here when I play.

Is it over?
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>>548112296
>chocoB
too much of a labor for them to actually make another class showcase video in the same year?
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>>548112626
Bring me his chocoballs.
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>>548112734
do you do any sports or lift? if not its probably just pressure from the table edge, just lean on it less
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>>548112626
Can you speak english?
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>>548112926
She deserves good foreigner sex
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>>548112734
do you have a rat ?
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>>548113426
Ty for the tip, doc
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>>548113628
I used to have 2 , they died after 4 years :,
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>>548111156
>>548112316
FO REAL FO REAL NO CAP!
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>>548114832
>muh fuggin... bix nood summa dat shieeeet
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>>548114832
Is that Floyd of Fynt?
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Hey new Psyker player. Which augments should I go for on the force sword and greatsword? Those are going to be my first masteries.
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>>548110739
The hive is called Tertium, friend.
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>>548117384
In general precognition, riposte, uncanny strike, blazing power are all good but the specifics will depend on the rest of your build and playstyle.
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For me it's still Kruber x Kerillian
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For me it's anon x rat.
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>>548118703
A girl rat right?
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Let me preorder.
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>>548117384
Both FGS and FS have the issue of having way too many good blessings which gives you a lot of options depending on your use case.
I use shred+riposte unyielding+carapace on my scriers melee psyker Force greatsword.
Shred+unstable power and flak+maniac on my normal staff builds. You don't get a lot out of unstable power on a scriers build since it's very very difficult to intentionally stay at 75%, as you will be killing so fast that you be normally very low from quell kills until it becomes unsustainable. At which point your next scriers activation is ready anyways.
The normal force swords are all incredibly versatile and the blessings there really are dependent on your playstyle even moreso. But in general you really cannot go wrong with shred, uncanny, riposte and precog.
Same case with unstable power, nice for normal build, not nice with scriers.
There is a case to be made for deflector because it also gives you block efficiency on top of your other block peril nodes, which enable you to pull off some insanely clutch revives in the harder difficulties but it's also insanely niche and not really something you build for, like havoc where your melee is just a self defense tool otherwise on a staff bubble build.
Blazing spirit and bloodthirsty are a pretty bad meme, you already apply a fuckton of soulblaze normally so melee applying a pitiful amount does nothing really, and using a valuable blessing on the special attacks is really not worth it when everything else is so good.
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what about female rats x human men?
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>>548120439
I like the way you think.
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thoughts on hestia?
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>>548120439
You might as well suggest mutated narwhals x human men
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>>548120439
How about female elf being transformed into a rat breeding sow?
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>rat trannies bestiality rape posting again
Pray that they never make a 3rd vermintide
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I only started playing Darktide yesterday and my conclusion is that rock is love, rock is life, Ogryn should get more rock.
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>>548121258
WILL ROCK YOU
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>>548118703
Don’t talk about yourself in third person
>>548119431
Shit taste
>>548118662
>>548120439
Good taste + truth warp bomb
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>>548117384
>force sword
uncanny slaughterer or uncanny riposte
>greatsword
unstable riposte or riposte shred

carapace and unyielding damage
have flak and maniacs on secondary

see the true light
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>>548121258
>>548121317
I will fucking rock your asshole and split your taint down the middle, sah!
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>>548121515
he never said that
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>>548121258
please tell me you didn't pay full price....
darktide just went it's all time low sale
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>>548120950
There will be.
>Age of Sigmar
>Verminlord villain/final boss
>new cast of characters (Überreiks Five VAs will be too old)
>Seraphon skink character (NPC at hub)
>versus mode at launch (2029)
>improved AI (random slave and clan rats will start running away and regrouping when alone)
It will be peak.
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>>548121930
ᴵ ᵖʳᵉᵒʳᵈᵉʳᵉᵈ
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>>548122198
Holy fucking based
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>>548121930
I preordered and all I got was a gay ass profile frame.
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>>548122198
Anon's mom looks comfy.
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>>548122527
Joke on you, my mom is a fine and beautiful lady, I love you mom.
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Have 12 hours in vermintide now. Why does this have so much more sovl than darktide?
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>>548122198
Cute, we can only dream of being so comfy
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>>548122959
>Why does this have so much more sovl than darktide?
They didn't allocate any funds to improving the gameplay
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>>548122959
Because you value rejected quips from a Marvel film more than actual gameplay
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Anyone here plays hunt showdown?
Worth a buy?
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>>548123076
Wrong.
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>>548123239
anything under the extraction/ royale category is not worth your time or money anon
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>>548123239
streamer game
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>>548123457
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[Retarded take]
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>>548121930
Fug...I paid full price for the version with the soundtrack and everything...
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>>548123946
[Storm of Slurs]
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>>548124025
[self-congratulatory declaration of victory followed by gay ERP]
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>>548123239
It's not that great.
It's a battle royale game which is okay in concept if you want a brainless shooter.
But the extract shooter pvp part of it brings out the worst of people, and you're generally going to spend more time getting oneshot by some retard using a sniper you didn't see using a paid cosmetic skin to hide in the dark of some corner or bush than ever having a good gun fight.
It's only fun if you have other friends to play with who don't play like cowards, but at that point you might as well play anything else and have infinitely more fun.
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>>548095591
Guess they were scared people struggle to see in 2. Ported levels from 1 look terribly bland and empty because of it.
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>>548124692
[CACAdia]
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>>548123127
Provide one (1) example
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>>548124870
The entire game
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why isn't rogue trader on sale?
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>>548124870
I'll give you 2 examples
Vermintide 1
Vermintide 2
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>>548091580
Didn't know it imperial edition has currency, thanks anon. boughted!
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>>548122959
It doesn't.
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>>548125121
owlGODS don't have to cheapen their games for players
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>>548121936
And other copes to tell yourself. I do have an ideal wishlist of what an AoS tide would look like though. Will post later
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>>548123457
>>548123946
>>548124025
>>548124692
>>548123127
Most sensible posts made all thread
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Tomorrow /coopg/ will be saved
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>>548123457
The 'tide games are extraction games.
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>>548128557
You mean in like 11 hours when Choco posts his video, and then the meta is set for the HIV for the first month because everyone argues over it but ultimately that doesn't matter because all the normoids will just use his builds?
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For what it’s worth this general is better than Twg
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>>548129325
I don't think the meta will be set this early
I basically decided my arbites build before it was released and haven't changed it much since, but i don't think it will be that easy for the scum
>that doesn't matter because all the normoids will just use his builds?
They were always going to arrive at something retarded sooner or later
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>>548129507
>This shithole is better than the other shithole where people are even more angry and have stopped deluding themselves that CA maybe will use lube this time!
whoa
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>needing to look up builds for this baby ass game
I didn't even think about that man
You guys are crazy
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>>547962193
she’s hot. just lose the piercings and we’re good to go
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>>548129325
>the meta is set for the HIV for the first month because everyone argues over it but ultimately that doesn't matter because all the normoids will just use his builds
I fucking hate normies so fucking much
I hate jewtube slop-suckers even more
I even hate you niggers in /coopg/ for saying such DEEPLY retarded shit as calling Shield of Contempt or Field Improv bad just because you don't have your favorite jewtuboid's permission to like it.
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If scum is truly glass cannon as devs have said, get ready for many failed missions. Arbitass was faceroll tanky, everyone got cocky for ez mode. Scum will expose all of the dodgelets and no pushblockers
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>>548129738
You misunderstand. The toobers say shield of contempt and field improv is good, these "people" arrived at these retarded conclusions all by themselves. That's how fucking stupid they are
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>>548129572
I am pretty sure that Choco will have figured out the initial meta for the first 2-3 months until people slowly shift to something else, and then shift again. Even though nothing internally causes these changes, it happens anyway. It's a constant thing in DT. I've seen people switch up what the correct meta is multiple times this year even though the old meta they were using (except for some notable examples) is functionally no worse than before. The only thing that drives mass change in this game, truly, is novelty. People get bored of the same build, someone else presents a side-grade or makes a claim that this build is marginally better than the old build (this can't truly be substantiated, and is entirely dependent on player skill i.e. a non-factor), and so they switch. Then they get bored again, and the cycle repeats.
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>>548129803
This but cranked up to 11 because I fully expect the class to also be fast, so it'll be knife zigger 2.0 on fent
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>>548129803
>Zigger
>But the class is entirely designed to be a Zigger
>If you do anything to point this out you will be banned
Awesome
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>>548129861
>even jewtubers know
Then what the fuck is wrong with coopg retards calling literal S-tier nodes shit? Autistic contrarianism? Izzat farming? Actual unironic genuine clinically tested and proven room temp IQ?
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>>548130096
>why are the people who spend all day arguing for fun saying something that they know will lead to an argument
I dunno dude it's a mystery
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>>548130096
NTA but the old tree had some really bad tax nodes where you had to sacrifice something for it.
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>>548130096
Keep in mind that about half of the people in these threads don't play anymore because Fatshark is retarded and they got burn out. They only come back when there's something worth playing such as a new class. When they talk about a class, they are thinking of the information from back when they played which is often inaccurate. I would know, I am one of these dudes who was deeply confused why the fuck people stopped using Shredders.
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>>548130175
There is functionally no difference between being retarded, and pretending to be retarded, which means it's
>Actual unironic genuine clinically tested and proven room temp IQ
>>548130256
I don't remember Field Improv being taxed, but Shield of Contempt definitely put you off the beaten path which often cost you valuable points that would go into otherwise good talents. I still think SoC was worth taking, but the opportunity cost was indeed high, and you weren't stupid to skip it.
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>these nodes that only benefit you extremely conditionally and only if everything goes like shit are S tier!
>taking extra wounds and going down on purpose is a valid strategy
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>>548130679
>he only plays in difficulties where mistakes go completely unpunished
>benefiting the team is bad actually
Is that big daddy n0tail?
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>>548130679
Found the retard!
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>>548130613
>There is functionally no difference between being retarded, and pretending to be retarded, which means it's Actual unironic genuine clinically tested and proven room temp IQ
No shit but the fact that you even have to ask about the reasoning makes you just as stupid.
It's like you landed in india and asked why everyone was shitting in the street.
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>>548130887
>>548130904
>taking the bait made by a retard in a conversation about people purposefully making ragebait

Please have a little self-respect and don't give retards (You)s.
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>548131058
>don't give retards (You)s.
Ok
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>>548130471
>deeply confused why the fuck people stopped using Shredders
This is such a weird phenomenon to me, and I'm pretty sure it's just mindless cattle who are all bad at the game.
>Kraks and smokes are used in havoc to solve problems that need solving.
>Smokes are functionally useless in auric and below because nobody stands inside them.
>Kraks aren't needed in auric and below because armored hordes are only ever dense enough to matter in melee scab maelstroms.
>If bosses survive long enough to matter in auric and below, your entire fucking team got build-checked.
I unironically feel like it's just people looking at and copying havoc builds without understanding how or why they're good, and retards who never learned how to engage armor in melee. Add a pinch of retards who can't make a competent build, and the kind of team that would spend 2 minutes kiting a monstrosity around if The Good Guy doesn't kill it within 10 seconds.

Uncanny frags are still incredibly powerful outside of havoc, and kraks are still a sidegrade if only for build versatility, rather than being the automatic take that they are in high havoc.
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>>548131464
I use kraks because i've basically used nothing but shredders in the past
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>>548131464
It is almost always a case of havoc builds bleeding into the general public.
I still run shredders almost exclusively in aurics, since nothing still survives long enough for kraks to be worth taking imo.
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>>548035580
Both. They can collab sometimes.
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>>548129610
Wait CA is still ass fucking them? Is it the ludicrous pricing again?
>>548130679
I like look like that
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>>548131464
It's as simple as
>i can't trust my team to deal with armour
>i can't trust my team to kill bosses
>using my grenade for that purpose gives me more options for weapon variety
Sure it's probably suboptimal but who cares, it's just auric.
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>>548130096
Shield of Contempt is bad.
Many people who shill for it and say it is good are only advocating for it because they are genuinely bad at the game.
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>>548132683
Shield of Contempt protects teammates. If you want to claim you can consistently solo havoc without teammates, it's time to take your meds.
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>>548072275
Sick art. I do that.
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>>548089828
>>548089480
>>548090229
*blows it up with a shotgun*
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>still no second faction for darktide
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>>548132683
FOUND THE RETARD!!!
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Does rending do anything against mutants?
Making a knife for veteran in havoc, it's mostly just self defense since i have my gun out all of the time and wanted something more agile and notice that I only ever really use it to kill mutants. The backstab rending blessing looked cool but not sure how impactful it actually is for that.
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I shall be buying, and I shall have fun, but I dread how HIV scum is going to actually do objectives in quickplay because nobody ever bothers with it.
>objectives need doing
>pubtards would rather die than interrupt their spawn door poxer-farming session to block push next to the hacking guy for 5 seconds
>arbitrator has the dog to buy a couple seconds, shock mines to buy out hacking objectives entirely, and Forceful stun immunity combined with ungodly toughnes regen to just shrug off poxers harassing you
>ogryn is too retarded to get distracted
>veteran yells enemies over and gets a bit of immunity through gold toughness, frags buy space, stealth buys out objectives
>zealot also has gold toughness, two sources of stun, melee stun immunity to shrug off poxer harass, and stealth
>psyker is a little worse off, but bubble also buys a ton of safety for certain objectives
Unless HIV scum has stun immunity and/or gold toughness drugs that I can use to force objectives without help, I'm preemptively expecting 30-40 minute missions between several knife zigger equivalent downs/deaths and nobody so much as looking at a single objective.
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>>548133439
Uncanny and mercy killer with the bleed talent
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>>548133441
Gonna laugh if there is a custom Stimm you can make in the Stimm tree that has "Ignore stun" on it.
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>>548133798
>>548133441
The rampage ability ignores stagger
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>>548133439
Depends on your weapons ADM vs maniac, IIRC knife is already good in that regard so it probably won't help a whole lot.
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>>548133439
Rending only does anything if your weapon doesn't have a full multiplier against the targeted armor type for whatever reason. It's part of why rending works on monstrosities. As far as I'm aware, you do still get very slight damage bonuses after exceeding 1.0, but it's not worth pursuing for that.

I believe one of the folding shovels can one-shot mutants with a special heavy. I don't know whether that requires maniacs. Might be a slightly safer option than knife, since in my experience, veteran tends to suffer a trickle of random trash, and being able to hack/stagger your way through them is useful. Unless you want the knife explicitly for running away and killing elites, in which case >>548133545 is correct.
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10 hours until NDA ends
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Hawktuahpill me on the Necromancer career if Ive literally never played Vermintide before
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>>548135396
Single strongest career in the game if you know how to build and play it well
I don't remember the build or how to play it :(
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>>548135396
I once helped carry german girl into Legendary by telling her to switch to necromancer.
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>>548135396
Some simp recommended it to me and it turned out to be really strong
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>>548097190
What are you talking about though
>>548097836
He won’t he screwed it up already now she just sees him as a pussy
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>>548114241
Bad taste in pets do better
>>548112734
You probably just bruised it stop jerking off
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feels weird to play both ratclick and pigclick at the same time right now

my brain is telling me to slide and sprint in ratclick and try to not gun down teammates in pigclick
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>>548133394
It’s coming next year asshoke relax this shit takes time and effort
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Joining random havoc 25-30 is infinitely harder than any 40 will ever be.
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>>548136679
True, but retarded sub-human teammates forcing you to solo everything is a completely different skill set and different kind of difficulty that demands a vastly different approach to buildcrafting and gameplay. You kind of have to abide by speedrun tranny meta to thrive, because you'll be forced to solo clutch kite for several minutes every game lol.
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>>548135467
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>>548135616
Thank you all
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Had a pretty radical idea but has any gun psyker here used the double barreled shotgun? I've been thinking about giving it a whirl
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>>548137463
>gun psyker
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>>548137553
>
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>>548137463
No meme can save that thing.
Arbiters 3 barrels are funny, but still exceedingly worthless.
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>>548137874
Nah, crit stacking vet with weapons specialist for reloads turns it into a shitty bleed-based flamethrower equivalent with the cleave + bleed blessings. It's serviceable this way, and good enough to work in havoc. Just, pretty mediocre.
Definitely not worthless when built correctly on vet.

Absolute irredeemable dogshit in psyker, however.
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>>548136415
speak english
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>>548035528
>hive scum
more like hive scam cuz they are scamming you dummies reselling you a zealot and some weapons lmaooooooo
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>>548138345
I said I'm having to cope with how much better Darktide is.
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>>548137874
Vets can get 3 barrels too now
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I can quite literally remember a conversation happening in these very threads no more than a week and a half ago about the DBS being very strong on the Psyker because some dude made a video demonstrating it. It wasn't Mr. Estrogen or Tranner.
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>>548138345
dead nigger tranny
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>>548137463
>gun psyker
Stay in heresy and below, thanks.
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>>548064158
there is something in the human psyche that makes revulsion and arousal take very similar neural pathways
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>>548139058
Literally never happened
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>>548139058
For the purposes of being a gun that shoots things dead with bullet damage, the double barrel shotgun is complete shit. It struggles to kill anything actually relevant in any relevant amount of time. It's the archetypal short range point-at-head-or-chest-cavity-and-remove-it gun, except every relevant enemy in the game is armored and takes no damage from it. Also it's a gun that wants to be used in melee range, where you should be using melee weapons instead.

The only way I can see psyker using the DBS even remotely effectively, is through the same meme as vet, where you stack crit, use the cleave + bleed blessings, and use it as a worse like the flamethrower, meaning you fire it at medium range into as dense a horde as you can place the firing cone on. I don't know exactly how much crit rate you can achieve with DBS on psyker, but I'll be generous and assume some ~50%.
Congratulations, you just built a good melee psyker.
Cleaving through enemies for a bit of extra bleed is probably effective, but you can do the same, if not better, with greatsword beam Puncture swap, without giving up your ability to effortlessly remove disablers and snipers.

If someone somehow came up with some utter witchcraft to render the DBS usable in a way that doesn't involve just crit stacking bleed, I'm interested to know, but I really don't see it.
Builds that play below auric difficulty needn't apply.
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>>548137463
>>548139207
shotgun on gun psyker would be workable if every individual pellet has a chance to proc a head pop, but honestly the Autopistol is probably just better at the job than a shotgun ever would be
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>gun psyker
>melee psyker
>ranged zealot
>melee veteran
>grenade veteran
>tank ogryn
>gun ogryn
>ranged arbiter
and other such delusional ideas
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Is Darktide way better than Vermintide 2?
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>>548139207
Posts like this make me realize just how few people here actually play stuff like scriers.
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>>548140130
>take the one class that has infinite ammo tools
>hmm nah fuck that let's be an inferior version of others
Just a coincidence that all gun psykers are dogshit and have been since day 1 though.
>No bro trust, I'm a good gun psyker no you don't get it, believe me please!
Let me guess you're the retard that was baiting the newfag into that ripper build.
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>>548140019
>gun psyker
Trash
>melee psyker
Extremely powerful in havoc, and by extension, in auric. Too hard to play for the average retard to succeed.
>ranged zealot
Trash
>melee veteran
Very powerful actually, totally serviceable in auric, but in havoc you're expected to shoot. If you don't have 2x ranged damage compared to your melee, you're not doing your job
>grenade veteran
Mutually inclusive. If your build doesn't grenade, it's shit, sorry bub.
>tank ogryn
Tanking isn't a thing in darktide
>gun ogryn
Gunlugger is okay in auric and below.
BLO rumbler can deal millions of damage in havoc, it's very good.
>ranged arbiter
It's arbitrator, retard.
Stacking cleave on the shotgun is the highest possible damage output the class can achieve in auric, because you kill everything before anyone can even get into melee range, or even blink. You just happen to still fundamentally be a melee build. It's broken.
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>>548136415
Vermintide is a faster game right
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>get in havoc lobby
>arbite has IAG
wat
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>>548140262
>hurr durr da AMMOOOO
When you see gunpsyker, do you just assume people mean they're using the gun all of the time and nothing else?
Ammo is entirely irrelevant when in auric maelstorm, you rarely even need to take a single ammo pack or tin if at all. If you ever feel like you need to justify ammo efficiency in fucking aurics of all things then you have a gargantuan skill issue and are probably not making sound decisions on when to actually use your ranged options. It's only retarded in havoc where ammo DOES become an actual factor to account for.
In auric you can realistically take anything at all and still do really well, guns are usually better for scriers melee setup because of the faster set up time to instantly kill a netter or some other ranged specialist compared to swapping to a staff and lmbing it.
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I'm never playing havoc because I have a job irl already and want to have fun in Darktide the videogame, also everyone is an elitist fag in that difficulty
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>>548140564
>Ammo is entirely irrelevant when in auric maelstorm
ah so you've never played above heresy
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>big wall of cope and lies
IDBLT
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>>548140620
This is why I play on Damnation 99% of the time
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I'm convinced most of you niggers don't even play the game.
Every time I post my code here it's always been the one singular ogryn actually joining, and every single time it's always been on my gunpsyker.
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>>548140564
>When you see gunpsyker, do you just assume people mean they're using the gun all of the time
NTA, but yes. This is what I parse when someone says "gun psyker", because they wouldn't be phrasing it to be a GUN psyker if they had other plans.

Melee psykers often bring a gun, because they have little to no use for most staves.
Assail Puncture swap builds are forced to bring a bolt pistol. Same for greatsword Puncture swap.
I get that this is semantics, but neither of these are "gun psykers" because the gun is just an accessory, and if you disagree you must be autistic.
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>>548140768
That is legitimately what most people mean when they say gunpsyker. Melee psyker but a gun instead of a staff.
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i havnt drunk in a month but this friday i feel like havin some brewskis and playan some darktide

wat do
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>>548140829
>"gun psykers" confirmed too socially stunted to properly communicate what the fuck they mean
shocker
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>>548140736
I don't play the game with anons from here. Just in general and because australian internet makes connecting to anyone outside my region a crapshoot.
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You won't be able to use the name "scum" for your hive scum because it contains the word "cum"
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>>548140309
the point is that if you go out of your way to focus on a single thing from your arsenal and make it your entire approach to solving the game, you're trolling or retarded
you could and probably will argue that these phrases just mean you're using that specific thing among others, but i've seen how people play with these notions in their head
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>>548140863
>pick ogryn
>select booly club mk3b
>play havocs/AM
>roll face on keyboard and spam leftclick
hey, it's what I do when blackout drunk and alone in my apartment, werks for me will work for you
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>>548141040
Very insightful and true post, I'd just disagree with that being true for melee psyker. It really is just that strong lol. You only bring your gun for exploits and/or popping disablers, but that's most classes.
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You guys sound like biggest tryhard retards who will get mad at me being mediocre at a game or making mistakes or not following your advice 100%. And then be mean and make fun of me itt. I much rather blast with randoms and chill.
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>>548141249
That's the case with pretty much any general.
Anon posting is hyper aggressive and schizophrenic.
Anons that actually join games are usually nice and chill, wanting to just play the game.
copeg has seen better times with anons actually wanting to play together, but I take what I can get.
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>>548140736
>I'm convinced most of you niggers don't even play the game.
I play regularly but I'm usually online during the most cursed of hours.
I used to post invite codes, but my experience was largely the same. Post code, nobody joins, and if someone joins, it's one of the same 1-2 people. I thought my havoc titles scared people off, but it seems that /coopg/ just doesn't want to g together in coop. Nowadays I've just added the frequents to my friend list and play with them through there, it's less effort than posting a friend code.
I've played havoc 40s with /coopg/ers. I had fun, but we weren't very successful. The randos I had in the follow-up games were better.
The only groups that I see frequently fill up and succeed are penance hunting groups with newfriends.
Maybe /coopg/ just doesn't want to play auric. Penance farming usually happens in the most babby difficulty said penance allows. I guess that would, in a way, explain some of the completely retarded takes that happen here sometimes.

>>548141249
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I've almost exclusively had positive experiences with /coopg/ users. I only remember the occasional anon talking too much on mic to where it got annoying, a funny rager, and some based anon that called called some rando a nigger.
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>join a H40
>one of them is a psyker with electrostaff
>ok, could be worse
>finally get into the mission
>they also have 3 wound curios
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>>548141554
Sui-psyker
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>>548141554
Probably going for that penance where you have to win without dying, but aren't confident in their ability to live on fewer wounds.
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>Lead Designer said they had top three ideas after Arbites
>Picked Hive Scum out of those three for debatable reasons
>Have since expanded the pool to five but replaced the other two from the initial pool

Pretend that Skitarii and SoB were the two they removed from the pool of ideas. Now assume that Fatshark have five other classes lined up already they are reasonably certain GW would approve.

What do you think those five are? Not necessarily what you want to them to be, but instead what you think GW would approve and Fatshark would think of. If it is too hard to come up with five, throw in Skitarii and SoB on the outside chance that they weren't in the original pool, this way you only need to come up with three.

I am interested in seeing what coopg thinks, because I genuinely couldn't come up with more than one or two if those classes are excluded.
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>>548141554
That's so unfathomably based that my mind cannot even perceive it.
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>>548140972
I wonder how many teases Hive Scum will drop for Genestealer Cults? If GSC are actually on Tertium the underhive's rabble would be the ones most commonly running into them.
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uh oh my mouse is double clicking again. Time to pour some vodka on the switches.
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>>548141628
inb4 "spesh marine"
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>>548141374
Actually, adding on to this
I think the most valid concern one can have is some obsessed schizo posting names and trying to make you look bad, or some other similarly unemployed behavior like stalking and posting steam profiles, and other things that happen on 4chan when someone particularly autistic didn't have his tendies that day.
I don't really have any concerns, because my profile is functionally private, I never post names, and I try to be a good teammate, so nobody has any reason to post bad things about me, or any ammunition to do that with.
A bit of paranoia toward 4chan schizos is justified, but anonymizing your gaming profile isn't all that difficult, so I think such reactions are overblown. Also let's be real, most actual adults just laugh at the retards who post these kinds of things.
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>>548141628
Would be funny if it's an engineer class with a turret, but it's just a regular dude and not skitarii. Imagine the flamewar.
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>>548141616
Yeah, having 3 wound curios doesn't prevent that.
If you go down even once it already discounts the run and no one within the mission team will get True Survivor.
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>>548141826
Aren't there separate ones for not dying and not going down?
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>>548141628
Spyrers. Darktide lifts VERY heavily from Necromunda as a setting, and it would not be crazy for at least one kind of Hunting Rig to be manufactured for Atoman nobles.
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>>548141803
Skitarii don't have turrets, so that's fine. It'd have to be a Tech Adept or something else. Wouldn't cause a flame war in that sense, but if it was a Tech Adept you'd see people say Skitarii Never Ever because there's already a Mechanicus class now.
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>>548141972
dear lord, what horrendous faces
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>>548141628
>>What do you think those five are?
>hive enforcer
>some sort of tech adept
>squat
>beastman
>mutant scavvy
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>>548141870
No, there's just True Survivor.
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>join a H40
>one of them is a psyker with gun
>ok, couldn't be worse
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Sororitas are popular but gameplay wise there’s nothing they have that zealot doesn’t. (Miracles, flame weapons, boltguns)
I hope the next class is an abhuman (ratling) or an engineer style tech class (Skitarii)
Even if it’s something I didnt want like the ganger, if it’s executed well I’ll be happy :)
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>>548142270
Alright, I don't get why he'd take 3 wound curios to H40 then, by the time you get there, you should know better. Hell, he should have been filtered from parties long before that point.
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>>548141972
Spyrer is unlikely. Yes, the nobles might have some hunting rigs, but the premium cosmetic issue is instantly apparrent.
It would most likely be another Arbites situation. Ie. GW cockblocks fatshark out of all possible cosmetic ideas because they are detrimentally autistic about aesthetics.

And we know cosmetics are one factor the devs think about when adding a new class since Magnuson had that interview with Jeficus he did mention cosmetics being one reason why they went with Hive Scum.
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>>548142146
Yeld is the only bad one, and that's explicitly a result of GW's approved paint style for marketing called 'Eavy Metal. The rest are to covered by cybernetics or mostly out of the shot. Sometimes they just make bad face sculpts, that happens, but most of them are average only to be bashed over the skull by the style that they use for everything.
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>>548142478
I don't know either, I wasn't the host.
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Necromunda shit looks like infinity shit
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>>548075445
>Ruthless and efficient.
??
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>>548142704
Guess which one came later.
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>>548142753
Necromunda got revived after infinity
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>>548142661
Probably a friend of the host who doesn't have the heart to inform him that he's retarded
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This rat is done asking for news.
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Suicide psykers are just free frag bombs
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>>548141628
Since they're clearly ok with DLC characters stepping on the toes of preexisting classes I wouldn't be surprised to see a Commissar eventually.
Some sort of assasin or bounty hunter, a primitive/mutant from the deep hive who only uses low-tech gear, a navy breacher, a crusader, any number of bullshit niche options from the RPGs.
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7 hours 40 minutes left of the NDA
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>babysitting a Krieger (full paypig set, helbore, shovel) as he's always lagging behind
>we ping out a DH on approach
>we clear up the swarm
>ok cool DH hasn't been aggro'd
>look at Krieger to make sure he's okay
>Krieger takes a charged shot at DH
>does it again
>when asked, he says he's going to the gym
At least this was a low level havoc but damn you find some amusing goofballs.
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>>548142902
oh shit oh fuck
HE IS SCAMPERING
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>>548142902
*picks it up*
*licks my fingers*
*pinches the fire out*
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>>548142902
filthy rat
get out'ta here
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>>548143310
*you have contracted Dysentery*
*you have contracted E-coli*
*you have contracted Black Plague*
*you have contracted Ratcovid*
*you have contracted Darktide*
*you have contracted Scabies*
*you have contracted Warts*
*you have contracted Headlice*
*you have contracted Hepatitis A*
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>>548143536
Damn... and i haven't even fucked it yet
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>>548143181
He needed to leave irl asap, but still wanted to have a little fun, so he aggroed it for quick short fun fight.
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>>548143574
do NOT the rat
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>>548141972
>Darktide lifts VERY heavily from Necromunda as a setting
fucking no it doesn't
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>>548091171
>umm lore is king, ok?
>bunch of one-use criminals slaughter entire legions, including demons, while being practically immortal
Thanks for projecting and outing yourself as a clueless secondary I guess lol
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>>548143760
>fucking no it doesn't
Necromunda's main hive is named "Primus" and the GSC infested one that got bombed into ruins is "Secundus." Now consider why Atoma's main hive is named "Tertium".
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>>548143998
Because that's just fucking Latin for first second and third, holy dumbass.
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>>548143942
The reason why bunch of crackhead criminals kill thousands of soldiers is because this is a horde shooter game.

It's not that deep.
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>>548144173
>it's a game???
Thanks for agreeing, champ, took you long enough lmao
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>>548143760
how doesnt it? wtf
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>>548144152
>Because that's just fucking Latin for first second and third, holy dumbass.
No shit retard, now use your fucking brain: Why is the main hive on a different planet far away named "Third"
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I'm not a secondary
I'm a tertiary
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>>548144521
Because it is the third hive built on that planet or third in importance.
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>>548144521
its a hive city. there are lots of hive cities.
>getting a lot of boss baby vibes
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Sometimes I remember the guy who wrote a full beyond-charlimit post and put it on pastebin to post here, and it was some self-sucking reddit styled post about why SoB needs to be released or some shit. It was written so fucking gayly too like
>heya everyone its lore-sama here, your one stop anon for all things 40k!
>now, "lore-sama why cant they add any other class" you ask? Worry not my brother in emperor, I shall explain.
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>>548144851
Hope he died irl
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embargo up 2 hrs 9 mins (utc noon?)
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>>548144821
>>548144846
Even the name of the city Darktide takes place in is a Necromunda reference. Hell, the sister city that is anomalously populated but nobody talks about it lines up exactly with Necromunda. Christ guys even the Palanite Enforcers were straight up ported into Darktide.
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>>548144334
I'm not the same guy
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>>548144976
counting to 3 and using a premade design for something doesn't mean "lifting heavily" atoma prime is pretty fucking tame in comparison to necromunda.
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>>548145403
Anon almost every design in darktide is styled after necromunda, what are you actually trying to argue here
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>>548140309
>Tanking isn't a thing in darktide
it is, actually. But very few players know how to do it properly.
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>>548098023
The new DoT is because their old spaghetti code causes unexpected results such as beetus dogs did.
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that's cool and all
but where the fuck are the named gangs?
we had water cartel and some faggot named "ragged king"
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>>548145403
>using a premade design
Palanite Enforcers very specifically belonged to House Helmawr in all their existing lore.
>atoma prime is pretty fucking tame in comparison to necromunda.
The Water Cartel kept the mid-hive tame the same way the Clan Houses kept Primus' mid-hive under control. It's the Underhive that's a constant shitstorm, and we never go that deep.
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>>548145590
It only kinda is, in the sense that you're kiting enemies into a clump near a chokepoint, but the common TOOOONKING of planting your shield and intentionally taking hits, is just purely retarded.
Intentionally taking hits is something that happens very rarely in general. At most, you can hold (or plant) your shield for a couple seconds to let someone get at a gunner/sniper nest safely.
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>>548145781
exactly. Tanking doesn't have to mean taking HP hits or standing still.
I saw an orgyn a few days ago in h40 herd 2 bosses, 2 conga lines, and a horde all by himself. I thought he was trying to suicide but he just kept surviving while we nuked the blob. It was very impressive. But it required constant movement on his part.
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>>548145781
>>548145590
If you actually understand aggro you can relieve your team off most enemies in havoc by kiting them around loops on a stealth class. Ironically stealth has a shit rep cause people just use it to aggro dump in melee range rather than kite looping
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I've aggroed DH at the damnation mission start (accidentally, I was shooting my twin stubber) and went down and one guy rage quit. Then psycher gf saved me and we've made through tough, but cool mission as a trio plus bot. It was difficult and we almost died many taems,but fun. Got one grim out somehow too lol. What a fun game.
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>>548146021
definitely a thing you can do. But if a player is away kiting enemies, we also go from 4 players to 3. So it relieves the team of 25% of their fighting power while the stealth fag is heavy attacking air. Probably best used in emergency situations.
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Who's ready to torture malicelets by speedrunning and rushing the fuck out of missions on hive scum release? Gotta level fast sorry kiddos *sprints through the level with dual knives*
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>>548146281
i hope net-gf gets your ass kekeke
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>>548146180
>psycher
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>>548146262
It has its place in havoc because you can gather up and kite far more than your 25% and you never stop being swamped at objs anyway. Its definitely situational. Also really good at clutching if things ever go bad though
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>>548141628
I'll have a go.

1. Tech-Adept/Priest. I think this one is near guaranteed as an AdMech class a popular choice in the community.
In addition Dawn of War 4 and Mechanicus 2 (naturally) will have playable Adeptus Mechanicus. Rogue Trader's 3'rd DLC will have an Augmentics system, so I'm guessing an AdMech Origin or Class will be available as well (Tech-Priest or Skitarius remains to be seen).
I could see them being introduced as either some rank-and-file Enginseers of Atoma volunteering to preserve the essential systems of Tertium, or the descendants of the AdMech staff from Clandestium Gloriana coming out of hiding. A wild card would be Hadron's messages to Mars causing an Explorator Fleet to park above Atoma.
I could see them having a Turret, Servo-Skull, and/or a Servitor as a companion/summon. They're near guaranteed to have Mechadendrite and/or Servo-Arm stuff.

2. Eldar Corsair/Ranger. Admittedly this one is unlikely, but not impossible. Eldar have been introduced as a plot point in the Mortis Trials Memories, that one Vox Intercept (Vox 5 I think? Something like "There won't be any Eldar swooping in this time to save us") and I think they've been mentioned in voice lines by the Psyker or Veteran? There's also that Mourningstar hub Vox chatter mentioning a ship at the edges of Auspex range flitting in and out.
Points against Eldar would be the general xenophobia of the Imperium (how would Zealots and Arbitrators react?) and the effort Fatshark would have to put into making the custom models and weapons.

3. Some variety of Sanctioned Abhuman or Mutant. Perhaps a brutal berserker?

4. A Squat/Leagues of Votann Kin. There have been Squat/Kin mercaneries working in/for the Imperium before, with the Squats of Necromunda being the most famous example. I could see them as another Technology class, if more melee focused than Tech-Adept.

5. A Spyrer inspired class? For that Power Armor fantasy? You could have the various suits be the Talent Tree.
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>>548146021
Stealth IS good, and probably still one of the most inherently overpowered mechanics in darktide, but I still don't value it all that much in havoc.
It's obviously incredible for solo clutch scenarios, but havoc is designed to discourage solo play, and I'd rather prevent ever having to clutch, than build around clutching good.
Stealth zealot nuking bosses is fine and good, nothing against it, but I'd still rather play a more normal lineup than to bring a stealth zealot.
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>>548146335
*psicker
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>>548146326
you just know hiv cum will have extreme dodge mobility so only retards will ever get caught
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>>548141628
RECLAIMATOR
&
RATLING
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>>548146281
>tfw FS won't reduce the "beat X number of [difficulty] before progressing" requirements
i'm speedrunning full throttle no ragrets
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>>548146379
You people set yourselves up for dissppointment so hard. It'll be shit like commissar, crusader, stormtrooper, etc.
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i wonder how many classes darktide will actually end up having. how many careers did vermintide 2 have at on launch?
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>>548146617
worst case 8
best case 10
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holy shit i've pressed jump mid ladder and it flung me over the edge and I died, not even ledge grab wtfffff
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>>548146696
>fewer is worst
>more is best
I'd rather have fewer, actually well-balanced classes and content that matters (more maps, enemies), and the atrocious blessing system reworked and rebalanced from the ground up so everything is actually decent and usable.
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ELDAR ARE
NEVER
EVER
EVER
GONNA FUCKING HAPPEN

STOP COPING

It doesn't even make ANY fucking sense for a game like this, it doesn't fit the tone in the slightest

same goes for squat
same goes for fuckass abhumans (besides ogryn)
get real niggers
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>>548146772
too bad man youre gonna get none of that and 2 yearly class releases full of reused talents and abilities
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>>548146775
>same goes for fuckass abhumans (besides ogryn)
ratling would fit for the same reason ogryns fit but fatshark said theyre never gonna do them for other reasons (too much effort basically)
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>>548146924
everyone keeps stating this but can literally never provide a source. i combed through every single dev blog and teaser or interview this game has ever had since january of 2020 because i am giant ratling fag and they have never said anything along these lines
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>>548146924
>too much effort basically
What if they do it anyway but it's a broken and buggy mess that takes forever to get fixed (never)
Wouldn't that be the Fatshark way
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>>548145618
Supposedly the new tattoos and assumedly the starting cosmetics will reference the other gangs
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>>548146775
An Eldar would rather kill themselves than suffer the stink and filth of a hive city.
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>>548146775
>It doesn't even make ANY fucking sense for a game like this, it doesn't fit the tone in the slightest
The actual reason is that Fartshit would have to create a new skeleton, new animations, and an entire suite of new weapons from the ground up with no reuse of old weapons. Essentially they would have to make ogryn again, which they are never going to do.
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>>548146539
I fear you might be right. Those are the near 0 effort class ideas after all. Would you add Sisters of Battle to your list?

>>548146772
Agreed. More maps and enemies would be great. Some Genestealer Cultists would be a welcome alternative to the Nurgle tide.
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>>548147224
yesh this is also why we wont ever get admech or sob. Both of them would be weird with the existing animations and skeleton
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>>548146617
The dev interview claims they're not yet near the point where there are too many classes, so I'd expect at least 3 more, 1-2 per year.
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>>548147324
in what world do we need a new skeleton for sister of battle? It's just a woman. They're not super soldiers like space marines.
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>>548147547
they wear power armor, making them move the same as an unarmored penal soldier is just unfitting and weird
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Ogryn is literally never going to get new weapons is he.
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>>548147637
probably not. i dont understand why they cant retroactively make the one handed weapons dual wield, or get the grenadier gauntlet a shield variant
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>>548147679
and by dual wield i mean integrate punching combos/attacks in the regular attack chains
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>>548147629
yeah well I bet they'll be sliding around like a knife zealot if we ever get them, lol
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>>548146775
Squat's likelihood is predicted entirely based on reusing Bardin's rigging and animations, and GW potentially wanting to shill Votann™ models. Their weapons are also just
>boltgun but better
>lasgun but better
>plasmagun but better
>etc
i.e. low effort reskins compared to Admech or Eldar guns which need new animations.
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>>548147637
Some sub-contractor studio leaked these hammers and power axes.
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>>548147295
>Would you add Sisters of Battle to your list?
Unlikely, people would expect more from it than
>scriers gaze reskin
>shout reskin
>exec stance reskin
so they wont do it. Same with admech, people would want servitor/robot limb stuff. They wont do anything that requires actual coding, they dont have that capability anymore
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>>548147637
>>548147805
So who knows. We might get these in the december 2 update, but I wouldn't be that hopeful.
Not even sure if the power axe is an ogryn weapon, most likely not because that'd be cool and ogryn is only allowed to play with fucking minecraft tools.
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>>548147809
>they dont have that capability anymore
if they don't, they can acquire it. It's not that difficult. Students learn how to do it every year.
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>>548147958
Its human sized, I remember the website that leaked this had tags or some shit. Power axes dont suit ogryns anyway, too sophisticated
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>>548147809
SoBs won't be exempt from low effort charge/AOE buff/selfbuff skill design and just being Vetlot
Admech can just summon units via teleporter and servo arms will just take a permanent backpack slot, servitors will just copy Sienna skeletons
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>>548148043
It's just an axe with a button. It's not that sophisticated. Ogryns already use power mauls just fine.
Only reason why ogryn wouldn't get a power axe is because GW hates fun and would rather let ogryn players eat shit because they don't care about video games being fun.
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>>548148003
Sure, but its Fatshark. I'm content having no expectations.
Seriously p13 was the last time they added anything fully new, and even half of that is reskinned shit. Smite is just the old electro staff etc. Everything they added since, modders could do. So I expect things on the level of mods going forward as well
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>>548148167
I meant more thematically. Ogryns arent meant to be space marines or anything, they're big retarded mostly untrained ogres who will pick up bricks when they feel like it. Power mauls are truly the height of what an ogryn can do because at the core its still a fucking club
The most I would hope for is a power fist for the same reason, plus necromunda depicts that
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>>548148043
Ogryns have power mauls, power picks, claws (which are admittedly artificial limbs) and buzzsaws
I don't think power axes are that out of the way.
Lore wise, ogryns are commonly armed with salvaged shit and rugged because it's hard to find stuff that wont break for ogryns use, but with supplied regiments this isn't the case as they will get specialized armor and weapons made just for them. Fatshark can realistically do anything they want with the ogryns arsenal but just choose not to because it would demand work and new animations.
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>>548148347
Ogryn already use knives so edge alignment is not an issue, also ogryns in this game and even use a heavy stubber to snipe enemies from 100 meters away. An axe is not difficult in this.
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>>548148671
>>548148417
theyre not going to give an ogryn something as rare and revered as a power blade
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>>548148824
theyre only rare and revered to HIVCUM fags. they hand power swords out like candy to any dipshit in the guard that picks up his third chevron
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>>548148824
They already gave ogryns a power maul, which is still a power weapon aka very valuable.
Ogryns can use any power weapon easily, only problem is trying to convince GW to let them use any because they are autistic faggots and hate fun.
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I don't want to do snortis trials...
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>X class needs this
>Y class needs that
Okay but have you considered reworking all the borderline non-viable weapons in the game? Half the shit that is available is barely usable in high difficulties, and like 80% of weapons have at least 1 STRICTLY MANDATORY blessing without which they're next to useless. This isn't okay.
Stop clamoring for new weapons before fixing the existing ones.
>b-but wouldn't it be cool
It would be cool if twin stubbers were actually good, and had blessings that actually fucking did something outside of LOOGing
It would be cool if the power sword didn't mandate an entire blessing slot to be filled with power cycler
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>>548148671
I think its more about slamming shit into walls and stuff. You can do that with a short sturdy knife or cleaver but you'd break anything that relies on balance like a sword or axe. I can see a spear happening though
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>>548149303
name 5(five)
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>>548149379
Ogryns are brute savages. An axe suits them perfectly.
An axe is nothing more than a funny shaped mace when you think about it.
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Ogryn should be able to pull out his giant flaccid cock and slap poxwalkies around with it and the weapon special squeezes it really hard making it temporarily erect and unlocks an armor piercing thrust attack
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>>548149424
Devil's claw is a meme weapon
Heavy sword is almost unusable
Twin stubber BARELY even fills the niche of a quick swap weapon and has literally useless blessings if you're not LOOOGing
Braced autoguns serve no purpose in difficulties where you don't shoot poxers
Vigilant autoguns are grossly outclassed in their niche and thus serve no purpose

Is that 5?

Let's not forget about other already existing mechanics
>picrel
This is a flamer blessing.
>it only works if the enemy dies to fire, so if someone else kill secures, it doesn't trigger
>when it would trigger, it only has a 20% chance to activate
>only on elites/specials, which are often not surrounded by enemies
>when it really does proc, the damage and stagger are inconsequentially microscopic
>this means that, even in the mode that has enough specials/elites clumped together for it to matter (havoc) it does literally nothing
Half the blessings in this game are dead weight, too. This isn't acceptable.
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>>548148196
sanest post in months
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>>548150202
>>548150202
>>548150202
get off page 8 lazy bastards
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>>548141632
I bet there’s a lot of stuff your mind can’t perceive yeah
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>>548139762
You’re only technically right
>>548140064
Yes
>>548140412
Rev up those nukes then because it looks pretty antithetical to what they’re going for
>>548141249
>>548141318
>>548141374
>>548141726
I don’t doubt that actual players are fun to play with but it’s hard to get over that initial hesitation once you see the kind of spergery that’s gotten up to in here I will say though no one has really doxed anyone yet so we’re better than most already
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>>548141651
Next year trust the plan
>>548142902
>they’re killing themselves now
Finally, took them long enough
>>548143051
Sad but true
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>>548142146
Only the models, concept/art wise they like sick
>>548141972
>>548142489
As much as I’d spyrers, I just can’t see them putting in the effort for them at this point, Ganger has really set the tone of what they want to go for and even though Spyrers would actually make the most sense with the story the cosmetics shit presents an issue
>>548143605
>>548143536
Good posts
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>>548142025
Adepts can have pretty much everything Skitarii have so that would be a weird complaint for sure
>>548144818
I’m a secondary meaning I have nothing to do with the table top but engage with everything else :)
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>>548147026
I’m pretty sure they never said anything about ratlin in particular, but more along the lines of “doing different camera angles is difficult so we won’t bother”
>>548146775
>>548147224
You kinda have a point but then it does beg the question of what the hell they’re planning to do with that bit of the story that’s still hanging around so it’s the perfect segue into playing as one or at least seeing some
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>>548146416
*siker
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>>548141142
i didnt get the grog bro, went for a walk and listened to podcast bros that i fucking hate talk about how good not drinking is which helped
its just that 4pm to 7 pm bit that craving hits
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>>548148824
“Power blades” are nowhere near as rare as you might think
>>548148417
I don’t remember them ever using claws, that in particular definitely seems like something that requires more finesse and skill to make use of than an Ogryn is capable of
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>>548152528
peeseeker
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>>548145609
The idea of that is very funny to me for some reason
>>548145781
>>548145984
>>548146021
>>548146262
I should probably learn how to do all of this sounds like a life saver in certain situations…
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>>548148824
>>548153221
You're both somewhat right and somewhat wrong. Militarum issue power swords are common enough, issued to officers and such, but a power sword that an Ogryn could comfortably use would be pretty hard to come by. While Ogryn command a certain respect they're still abhumans and thus second-class citizens. You'll never see a Ratling with one either. Psyggers are an exception to the prejudice because they enjoy the privilege of having normal human size and anatomy.
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>>548144851
Kek
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>>548154304
I can kind of see that, but like I said I imagine in an Ogryn’s case it’s also a matter of viability, you don’t really want a giant retard with retard strength that can be really clumsy swinging around a sword that can cut through most things like butter
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>>548156592
>you don’t really want a giant retard with retard strength that can be really clumsy swinging around a sword that can cut through most things like butter
O'course not ya git, ye stik five 'umie sowahds togeva an' ya got yerself a power klaw!
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>>548156592
Not any better having him swing fuckhueg pickaxes around like he was late on harvesting wheat.
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>>548161829
i mean neither are pleasant but i think i know which one I’d prefer being accidentally hit in the face with
>>548149561
hush hadron



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