fashionable EditionPrevious thread: >>548150202>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:New Class Reveal - Hive Scumhttps://www.playdarktide.com/news/new-class-reveal-hive-scumDev Blog - Hive Scum: Narrative & VOhttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-hive-scum-narrative-vo/115001Vermintide 2:New Free level: Return to the Reik - Out Now!https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-free-level-return-to-the-reik-out-now/114928Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
journo article with infohttps://wccftech.com/fatshark-presents-darktide-new-hive-scum-class-confirms-no-pvp-plans/new class showcasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16jW6uyXeA
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
Needle pistol looks boring I don't see the appeal
>Only good looking smuggler coat so far is behind the deluxe paywayHopefully there's a good one from the penances
>>548204958Darktide Versus would just be Call of Duty.
korean women are made for servicing japanese BVLLS
>>548205220>he doesn't knowOnononono not like this ANONS
fuck it, reposting in a new thread>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8LhMaLkDMQ&list=RDI8LhMaLkDMQ [Embed]I realize I sound like a 14 suburban wigger, bear with meI REALLY was hoping for some hood-ass gangsta nigga voice, or at least some Jamaican accent or some shitwhich of the ones we got is the best fit for the hood aesthetic? Outlaw?
What is the Conclave?
>>548205246>codfags not comparing every shooter with cod challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
>>548205419None of them. They're all painfully white. Anarchist is at least British White so effectively a Whigga.
Stimm supply ability is weirdIt makes sense to use it with hiv stimm, and it has a cooldown of 60sbut you will most likely have a lower cooldown on hiv stimm, and getting it ready resets the ability cooldownThen there's cooldown reduction in hiv stimm effects. Does it work on stimm itself? If it does not, it makes absolutely no sense to take it. Also the entire mechanic makes ability cooldown acceleration curios useless. You just rely on the cooldown of your stimm, not your ability. And even if you get an ability ready before your stimm, it doesn't make sense to use it, because it will have no effects besides healing corruption.At this point I'm inclined to think that meta will be to just use stimm pickups instead of hiv stimm and spam the ability with whatever effects you get.
darktide versus should be a 1v4 mode where a player controls the directoryou could even introduce deck building autism for director players where they set up a custom enemy deck to use in matches
>>548205419i expected a jamaican voice as well, given how hard they still push dei shit, yet here we are
>Zola REEE's about recruiting HIV CUM because they criminals >Zola was the one who came up with recruiting the Rejects ????
>>548205651you're getting re skinned classes with spikes and edgy voices and you'll LIKE IT
>>548205848she's a cuckhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oikophobia
>>548205419I have a feeling that they probably tried to consciously avoid the black gangbanger trope because they were worried it's racist. What's really funny about that is that I'm a huge racist and I would be really fucking annoyed if every other hive ganger was speaking ebonics. I just don't want to be exposed to that shit. I'm fully fatigued. This is great for me. The horseshoe truly came together here and it's beautiful.
>>548205891funny that this helmet is one of the HIve cum cosmetics
>Dropping frames with 35% CPU and 65% GPU utilizationWhat am I doing wrong?
>>548205941>t I'm a huge racist... why do you think I want to play a literal fent-huffing hood nigger giving people AIDS?that's why I'm disappointed, I get what you're saying - but at least 1 coon ass jiggaboo spook would be fun
>>548206186You don't get it man. I've graduated from saying nigger or thinking about niggers. Now I just want to avoid everything nigger-related as much as possible
>>548205451FOR THE CUMCAVE
>>548205848Rejects are basically penal legionnaires offered a chance to fight and die for the Emperor, HIV cum are hardcore crooks who are working with the warband solely to get those stinky boys off their turf.
>>548206261I don't want to get it.But you do you, best of luck
>>548206375Cut Throat is a criminal, at least one of the Psykers says and believes shit that would get him a bullet, all of the classes have done something wrong and are criminals to some greater or lesser extent. Zola was in a Hive gang, as Rannick points out. Yet she still REEEs.
>>548205419>>548205709I deal with enough Jamaicans every day that I’m thankful they weren’t pozzed enough to do something like that the African voice is bad enough
>gk with the base skin joins>immediately know hes just another dogshit player whos going to be downed every other horde
>>548206720Keep us posted
>>548205848The original 4 rejects are/were for the most part former military operatives who were wrongfully convincted or were convicted over minor infractions, and aren't complete lunatic retards. There are some rare exceptions like the loner psyker I guess but even they're more jaded than they are insane.The HIV scum are just the local psychopaths and gangsters, they don't respect military hierarchy or discipline, and they don't have a lot of zeal about doing the Emperor's will. They're loyal to money and to drugs.
>>548205848This is not that uncommon of a trope. Zola is happy to be out of the slums and sees her position as a point of pride that she accomplished it. Now some random drug-addled faggots and literal retards from the same slums are running around en masse with inquisitorial icons and purpose as her for just existing. She was roped into it because of her connections after the decision was already made.
>>548206596commonwealth or na?
>>548206550>Cut Throat is a criminalNo? Cutthroat is a Cadian soldier. You might be thinking of Loose Cannon but he was a soldier in the Imperial Guard too, the reason he got jailed is because he was caught taking combat supplies without permission. Which I guess is a crime but a ton of soldiers do it, and it's a much different crime than being a career criminal like HIV scum.
>>548206946>They're loyal to money and to drugs.and cleaning people who care about neither (insane, corrupted, barely-human-anymore demon worshippers) off their turf and returning to previous status quo gets them exactly that,Thats why Zola is so cross with them, she knows they don't give a fuck and are a lesser evil in this situation
>>548206550The point is that the Rejects are cannon fodder owned by the Inquisition, but the Scum are an entire faction of the Loose Cannon but worse, and Zola herself knows how crooked they are. Rannick doesn't care since it's free hardcore killers with a good reason to throw their lives away; it's either get the Inquisition's support in removing the heretics or die from attrition/Exterminatus
ok fuck stimm supply, rampage looks broken af for melee builds and desperado is irreplaceable for ranged builds
im going to fucking end it all, im done, thanks for the laughs guys, fuck it
>>548207470do a flip, tanner
>sorry, we had to remove infinite ammo from veteran, it was OP>sorry, we had to remove exec stance ranged DR from veteran, it was OP >sorry, we had to remove autopistols from the game, they were OP >sorry, we had to remove zealot being immune to melee while sliding, it was OP>but if you pay 12$ for this class then it's actually balanced and not OP anymore, enjoy
>>548207470don't do it anon!
>>548207470Wheres that video of the Ogryn falling 10 feet and dying
>>548207551>12$Oi! where's your deluxe edition?
>they surprise drop a new map/mission/game mode>it revolves around himWWYD?
>>548208225Die
>>548207551the more I think about it the more vile it is that they're reintroducing previously balanced-away game design issues with a paid class. It's not just that it's p2w, it's that we already had the veteran meta where they can just empty their autoguns all game long. It was removed for a reason, why can it come back with a new class
>Intro Cutscene is better than the actual trailerLol?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16jW6uyXeA
>>548208225I would tell you to stfu and crawl back to /tg/.
>>548207470>>548207863
>>548208225looks like shit
>>548208225Kill the seething retard with a shovel.
Why do only twitch streamers get the class early?
>>548208416Ffs Zola looks so dumb. Why not go for the scars instead of those acid burns? Why those acid burns are significantly lighter than her skin? Why the FRICK does she still has a blind eye instead of a fancy optical augmentic?
>>548208882easy and cheap marketing
>>548208225surely morrow must have a story of how he solo domed him
>>548208882>why do advertisers get to advertise?
>new map leans into actual 40k shit like a boisterous knight commander talking about the mission like he's hunting foxes on horsebackkino, fuck gritty marvel writing gimme more 40k shit
>>548208363I vill pay ze 12 bux to uz de Columnus
Now that they added a new Ogryn voice, I wonder if they'll add more voices to other classes.
>>548208882Are you genuenly retarded?
>>548208882Free advertising>>548209051I'd like more regiment specific ones for Veteran
>>548205891Traitor guard and cultists in general are heavily underrepresented.I just want more guard.
>>548207794Man I love this comic>>548207470Don’t be dramatic anon the class isn’t THAT bad
>>548208225reset his stupid kill counter in his helmet and make it display pop up ads everytime he kills something
>>548208225It's funny that they had to make Gorechild bigger over the years due to changing its lore. That said. They should probably rethink Kharn's load out because a Plasma Pistol feels extremely stat crept in 2025. Especially since you can quite literally use Angron in games now, but Kharn is still supposed to be the "mortal" Chaos Champion of Khorne.
>considering getting Arbitrator deluxe just for the dog cosmeticPaypigbros...I might be joining the trough.As far as I can tell it's the only entirely no-flesh dog cosmetic in the game. I don't like the look of the hybrid dogs.
Niggler gun sounds lame, like small wet farts.
>>548208225>on the road to join chaos but still somewhat hesitant>notorious chaos faggot kills your only real friend>join chaos for real
>>548207078Neither - Overseas Territory. Best one too arguably.
>>548208882supposedly for advertisementin reality jootoobers dictate everything at fatshark
>>548209667>entirely no-fleshIt's not entirely non flesh.
Is male outlaw voiced by Malakai Makaisson from wh3???
>>548208225Is he into fighting other chaos forces? I thought it was mainly the Imperium he was interested in terrorizing?
>>548209798The neck? I haven't been able to look at it well in-game as they always move about constantly.
>>548208225why am i seeing this nigga all over my various feeds recently? is james releasing something for him?also isn’t he a champion of chaos or whatever?whats their deal anyway
>>548210115He's just a swell guy
>>548204758Average hive ganger experience on december 2https://files.catbox.moe/k86x6q.webm
>>548210092Yeah, the neck. But you can choose the black furred dog so it will blend better with the metal.
>>548209674>niggler gun is exactly what I predicted it to be>fuckall damage and stagger>just a reliable method of applying DoT at rangeIt might be the worst class-specific weapon of the bunch because why would you ever use it over the other ganger guns?
>>548210372cause it kills crushers in like 3 shots and everything else in 1 or 2
>>548208225I love his glorious flowing pony tail. Still pays attention to fashion even when killing.
>>548210652over the course of 20 years
https://youtu.be/g2Ubcdm9KiU?si=AyMJw7cEyM0w1PUz&t=2034ahahaha what the fuck
>don't want to give Fatshark money >but playing a character who can just spam free based medicae packs, kills Nurgle faggots with a gun that has different effects (all of which sound terrible, for them), and a rusty Bonesaw covered in jail house special LSD >all of which synergizesFuuuuuugggg
>>548211019>don't want to give Fatshark money>but falling for FOMO before it's even happeningplay a different game instead than
>>548209419kharn is genuinely one of the fightiest models in the entirety of the tabletop for his points cost. you can toss a +1 to ap stratagem in a 20 man brick of khorne berzerkers and shit out hitherto untold quantities of damage from any troops unit in the game. basically mulches anything and punches way up above his weight classof course being a melee army is kinda shit so
If the needle pistol isn't great, how are the dual pistols?
>>548210245Sauce on image?
>>548210886Watching a guy solo h40 with it and the bonesaw right now. Bonesaw kills a reaper in like 4 lights. Needle pistol kills elites in 2-3 shots. Takes like 1 second for the shots to burn themThis is another one of these>/coopg/ anons are too fucking dogshit at the game to play it and blame the balance insteadthings, like back when the flamer was supposedly bad. Its because your metric is malice.
>>548208225What kind of gun is that??? Looks like a plasma but nothing like any kind I’ve seen before
>>548211214It's a doomjeet, saar can't even be arsed to watch some gameplay.
>>548210958>8:30>change grenade without deleting buildfucking finally
>>548211342goodmorning saar, ready for your shift of needful?
>>548211248Plasma but with chaos decorations
>>548211019please fund the SoB, admech, felinid and genestealer dream...
>>548210342Can you change the aesthetics of the dog freely like you can with your characters after they've been made? I assume so.Also how's Arbite like in general, in terms of variety and >fun? They look samey to me when I see them in-games barring some not taking the dog, and some not taking the shock mines. But, could be ignorance speaking as I don't have the class yet.
>>548211248Just a custom plasma pistol
>>548211409>instantly triggeredStruck the nail on the head I see.
>>548211214So the class is blatantly overpowered and going to make the game less fun for everyone except the "best" dlc class player? Wonderful. It's already bad enough with flame psykers.
new map looks awesome
>>548211248It's a Plasma Pistol design from over 10k years ago. Kharn is one of the originals. He canonically is protected by Khorne from Psyker bullshit, and he's like Lucius if Lucius wasn't a faggot jobber in that Kharn has died once before. He was killed on top of a literal hill of Space Marines he slew along the Imperial Palace before he was eventually mortally wounded. Khorne saw how killy he was and revived him. Then he buck broke his Primarch's own Legion for being cowards.
>>548211557No, you change the fur/skin color during char creation. The rest you can swap in the cosmetics menu anytime.>variety and funIt's okay really, not that fun compared to hive cum but can be dumb fun on the basis of how powerful it is. Shotguns are enjoyable to use and actually kill shit.
>>548210958that has been fixed, still infinite reserve ammo though
>>548211609>ew it looks weak>no no wait... ackshualy it's overpowered!holy flip-flopping turd batman
>>548211874>Shotguns are enjoyable to use and actually kill shit.Seems so, most Arbites I see just ammo-dump non-stop and are always in orange/yellow. Just gotta bring myself around to having to level up another character and grind every difficulty again. Seems to take too long to go through each difficulty. Can't even skip one or two (that I'm aware of anyway).
>>548211142>FOMOFOMO is when you miss something because it goes away. See: the slopshop, not seeing a movie in theaters, the premiere of a TV show, etc. Its weaponized scarcity. The hobo isn't going anywhere, I just want to play it but I also hate Fatshark and don't think anyone should give them money due to their shitty practices. If I could use an unlocker to get the class, I would.
>>548212039Never said it looked weak, el retardo.
>>548212095>SAAR IT WASN'T MEEEEEstfu jeet
>>548212190I see you can't comprehend the basics of the internet because you just got access to it sometime in the last few years.
>>548211162The Needle Pistol is very strong, that guy is just a retard. The pistols seem like shit though.
>>548212052Slap the XP boost on the curios. It's something at least.
>>548204758>'allo im a fookin CUNT and i fookin LOVE STIMMS
>I see you can't comprehend the basics of the internet because you just got access to it sometime in the last few years.
so we got a tanky crowd control melee character, now a high risk high reward ranged character, what's the next one?
>>548212545>high riskIt's no-risk. There is no risk on this class. They don't play their own game.
>>548212545A tech-priest (engie) obviously.
>>548212325Yeah, that is a good idea.
>>548210372It kills crushers in 3-4 seconds, retard
so only the bonesaw has the chem mechanic? everything else needs the blitz? lame
>>548212695Too obvious. Youll some random fucking "Who the fuck are you?" class again you WILL be happy!
>>548207110Reread the personality intro tidbit for Loose Cannon, it is extremely heavily implied he killed the quartermaster or whomever was guarding his regiment's shit
>>548212853>3 classes on shortlist>a whole bunch more on an expanded shortlist>ganger wasn't even on them and got thrusted into the game with a bunch of abilities that were taken away from other classes because they were "too op"100% chance the next classes are literally-who level
How do I build Heavy Sword on Zealot besides FotF for actual anti-Crusher damage?
It's just fucking painfull to watch mister-e play this guys is just above the regular shitters you cna see in random quickplays plz give me the drops so I can leave this condescending faggot's stream
>>548213275Did Choco's stream replay save? just rewatch that.
the new ratclick map feels a bit overtuned on catathe beach part plays like a WW1 trenchi dont think you need so many fucking specials on top of several patrols' worth of armor spam>just use the cannons brothey fire in exactly one spot of the beach, which has usually no enemies since they all beeline across the very edge of the fucking playable areayou need some poor niggers to stand there and hope they can kite everything around the bonfireit's ass
>>548212948I did, and I play Loose Cannon. It's not implied that he killed the quartermaster.
>>548213628It is implied that he killed a guard that discovered him stealing shit and he immediately got caught.
>>548211575>>548211441>>548211834Interesting. I thought Khorne didn’t like ranged attacks though, no? Or does he make an exception for him?
>>548213628>No ... Wait ... Come to think of it, there was a guard. And a lot of blood.Okay.
>>548213794Khorne doesn't like magic, guns are fine.
>>548213794It's the disdain for magic.
The melee build looks way better than the ranged one, unfortunate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGBRDKawBU>new operation map>8:30 in the vid>hadron: and to think inquisitor grendyl refuses to requisition skitaari SKITTLE CONFIRMED 7TH CLASS
>>548214023>refuse = accept...lol
>>548214023I still don't know what prompts her to say that. A wall explodes, which the Knight Commander shoots out with the Russ? And then Hadron just says that? Feels like it's unprompted, like another line was supposed to be there but it's not playing.
>>548214023meta commentary about GW
>>548214023Pretty sure thats the devs laughing in our faces
>>548214023Nope. Next class is going to be random noble trying to prove their worth! They will have dual-dueling swords.>>548214247Just like he refused and tried to cuck arbites out of the operation from the very start?
i fucking hate QQ togglingi fucking hate block cancellingi fucking hate when you have to do gay shit external to a weapon's moveset just to get it to function
>>548213794No he’s fine with ranged attacks, it just can’t be your only/main avenue of attack and using them to say end a fight would be looked down on as dishonorable >>548214023What a weird pointed line lol
Next class: boombox operator
>>548214403All of those are cheats and I don't cheat, so ergo, not an issue for me.
>>548211609Basically, but a new class being OP is not really surprising. I specifically only posted because I saw people who were hoenstly retarded enough to say it's weak
>>548214247NTA, but this the lay of the land: >Grendyl requested Hadron to contact Mars for help. >They refused to send anyone because why would they? >Hadron is frustrated by this. >Hadron now reveals that Grendyl refused to allow her to requisition Skitarii from the local AdMech fabricator diocese. Lorelets have been arguing against this for over a year now, but a place like Atoma Prime would have a very large AdMech presence due to its status, and it producing a rare form of steel that is important to the war in the sector. They tend to think that because Atoma is just one planet in one system that doesn't really matter (it's not Ultramar or Cadia therefore it must not be important). However, pretty much every single piece of media where Hive Cities, or even Gamma Class planets are located, there is a burgeoning AdMech presence. So, Hadron wanted to get some Skitarii from the local AdMech, he said no, and Hadron thought this was stupid. What prompts her to say this, I don't know, but this does definitively put to bed the claims by lorelets that there are no Skitarii on the planet, let alone in large quantity.
>>548214574Do you know why she says it? It seems to have no prior trigger. She just says it.
>>548215030The trigger seems to be people thinking they'll add skitarii. The reason she says it is to let them down softly.
>>548215405That's... No, you retard. I mean in the mission. She just says that sentence spontaneously from what I can tell. I am wondering if I missed something but I watched that section several times in the Choco video and it doesn't seem like anything happens that should prompt her to say it.
>Desperado stance blows Vet's and Gunlugger's shooting stances out of the fucking waterDamn
>>548215596I just explained it to you. The reason Hadron says that is because Fatshark wants the people who are hoping for skitarii know there won't be skitarii. >b-but I mean ingameThere is no ingame reason. Why would someone randomly ask what the eye of terror is? Fatshark read a wiki article. That's the real reason
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SKITARII
>>548215807You'll be real sorry in 8 months once the next class is revealed... to be tech adept
rattling next
Is there a slim hope that Fatshark also took the time to update the talent trees for the other classes so they wouldn't be left feeling completely behind the god like power of a crowbar wielding junkie?
>>548215807If you and I were walking down the road and you suddenly said to me, "And to think, I tongue nigger anuses." After a car almost struck us. It would first make me wonder what prompted you to say that (the car almost hitting us having nothing to do with your fetish for black men's assholes), and then wonder why you would ever tongue nigger anuses. Hadron's statement is like your own, it's inexplicable within the context of the event. I am sure you do tongue their anuses, and I am sure Hadron was told no by Grendyl, but nothing about the scenario we found ourselves in would require either statement to be mentioned.
>>548215654>build-up to Veteran to turn traitorK I N O!
>>548216253it came to her in a dream
>>548216246They literally just updated them. You aren't getting a second one until next year, and it'll be staggered at best.
>>548204758Hey is this the Darktide general?The game is super cheap and it looks fun, should I pull the trigger for $10?I've only played Vermintide 1 before, many years ago.This game looks the same but set in 40k.Is it true that the game is a live service always-online MMO? I'm reading conflicting information in the Steam reviews.
>>548216914>MMOwatno
>>548216914it's not an MMO. it's basically the same shit as VT1, separate missions that are designed to be replayedand i would say for 10 dollars yes, i got plenty of hours out of it and get the itch to replay it every once in a while
>>548216914no it's one of the worst games ever made and it's clearly just a moneybank for Fatshark to push ratclick updatesadd 10 dollars more to your budget and get the legacy edition of Vermintide 2dont listen to the retarded addicts ittmany of them are just /pol/tards in for the xenophobic memes and racism 40k provides
>>548216914its an mmo lite vaguely like destiny
>>548205419I was surprised there was no Roadman voice since that's the closest the UK has to Nigger Ghetto accent, but I guess large fish thought it was a net negative to the class
>>548216914it is live service, it is always online, and some people consider games like these an MMO for no reason. But it's not really bad for those things like some other games would be. If you're not interested in playing with bots only, it's not an issue. It's a fun game, you'd get a ton of hours from it as it is, so I recommend it.
>>548216914Yeah it's always online, there is a central hub where people must login to see each other in their MTX cosmetics (theres almost nothing unlockable by default), and the game is indeed a live service but with a glacial update schedule.I wouldn't waste my time with it unless you really like WH40K.Surprised they haven't added a battlepass yet.
>>54821691410$ Is a pretty good steal.
>>548217323>theres almost nothing unlockable by defaultwell that's clearly a lie, i can tell just from some quick google searches that completing achievements for each class unlocks their cosmeticswhy lie about this?
>>548217008>>548217123>>548217128>>548217228>>548217254>>548217323>>548217349Thanks. I don't understand though? Can I play offline by myself to learn the gripes or do I have to be online all the time?And what do you mean playing with bots only, does this game not have AI companions or what?What happens if someone disconnects while playing?
>>548217613>Can I play offline by myself to learn the gripes or do I have to be online all the time?You can't even launch the game offline and there's no singleplayer mode, it's 2020s cancer >And what do you mean playing with bots only, does this game not have AI companions or what?It does but they suck ass, and they get replaced by teammates automatically, unless you play a private game (which you can't start alone, you need at least 1 friend) >What happens if someone disconnects while playing?If he quits out of the game he gets replacedif it's a DC he can reconnectIt's basically l4d but with forced matchmaking
>>548217476>why lie about this?the doomtard only explanation for his actions is to spread their bitterness to others
>>548216914>>548217613absolutely dogshit game lmao easily the worst i've ever played it's a literal downgrade compared to vermintide 2 on almost every fucking level, it's only popular because 40keks are starved of relevant games and spessh muhreen 2 can only last them so far.don't waste your time trying to argue with the chimps itt, they will fellate the game because it's the only coop game they've ever experienced.just fyi, the game is very MTX heavy and most of the income is used by the other team at Fatshark to make updates for Vermintide 2there is a reason why people are starting to call it BANKtide instead of DARKtide lmfaoooooooooooo
>>548217613There are bots that show up in case there's no players, but you can't play offline with them. And they're pretty terrible.There's a tutorial, a place where you can practice and you start playing the lower difficulties to level up, so it's not bad
>>548214258Hadron doesn't like the Knight Commander for his grandiose personality and would rather have Skitarii lead the diversionary attack instead of the Moebian 53rd. She's just lamenting having to deal with more weirdos.
>>548215654>paid dlc class is better than base class(es)predictable, expected even
>>548217613You can't play offline. The game assumes you're from the first world have a steady internet connection uh I mean the game is online-only slop, so even when you're playing all on your own with bots you'll still have to have an active internet connection.The game has AI companions but they are not very good, they're only good enough when you're at the first two difficulties.
>make a new character for the first time since launch (I made all 4 characters on launch and haven't had to do it since)Good God the characters are impressively ugly. Not wanting anime/Eastern typical bug/doll look at all, either, but they're impressive in their own way in Darktide. The hair is another level of special too.
>>548217763>>548217887>>548218073>no singleplayer mode offline>cant private game by yourself...But why?Holy fuck nevermind, I'm not playing always online GaaS rubbish.It's not even about being first world, I will not tolerate always online bullshit when I live in a thunderstorm-heavy state.Sorry I'm good, thank you anyway for all the replies.>>548217883I don't like Vermintide 2 for the same reason, you can't play offlineAlso you type like a thirdie which is not helping at all
>>548217476it's one of the eternally bitter ratfags who isn't satisfied with having the better game but also cannot stop seething about it not being the golden child anymore
>>548216914>live serviceYes>always onlineYes>MMONoGuns are more fun than in vermintideMelee I'd say was better in vermintide
>>548218073>defends the live service online slop by calling him a jeetbrokenobsessedSCATTEREDDEFEATED
>>548213275Mister-E is a soulless corpofag what did you expect?
>>548218114You're literally called a reject. You're not just a social outcast, you're also a genetic dead end that was inbred through dozens of generations. If you would look "good" you would be a sex slave in some guy's harem - if you're not already getting sacrificed. You're using the same talking point as SJWs used back in 2017 who were tourists and invaded these spaces begging to have characters look how they want. Play any game with Space Marines if you want to look like a genetic lottery winner.
>>548218608Even poos nowadays have constant internet nigga. If you don't want to play online-only stuff out of principle because you think it's cancer that's respectable, but if you don't want to play it because you do NOT have access to a steady internet connection you really have to be living in some godforsaken shithole.
>>548218692This is for Arbitrator, anon, sorry.
>>548218343>discards both poxclick AND ratclick by designating them as the same always online GaaS canceroh no no no ratfags are you gonna let this slide? OH NO NO
>>548218343>I live in a thunderstorm-heavy state....It is currently the rain season in all of India, Thailand, Indonesia and South China.How curious of you to admit that.Surely you're not a jeet, right anon?
>desperado makes execution stance uselessOH NONONO VETSISSIES ITS ARBIES AND ZEALOTS AGAIN
>>548218343I have to agree with the thirdie retard, VT2 at least lets you play solo. The always online is cancer, but in that case it's "only" for DRM and anticheat
>>548218764yeah you oughta know that very well, ratjeet
>>548214023Right after the Jeansteelers update ye?
>>548219172>arbies and zealotsArbies and OgrynsWait for SoB and Zealots.:^)
>Watching 4 H40 playtesters discuss 4-hive-scum lobbies>they all do their epic MAX TOXIN build>wtf this class sucks when you stack it! man, I really wonder why. Let's think about this deeply. Why does the class suck when you stack up on their class mechanic that has a global hardcap per enemy? Anyone know?
>>548218608You didn't fill out the transferal form from moving /hg/ to /coopg/. Return to /hg/ and fill out the 130-U along with the 14-317. If not your posting privileges of escherum will be revoked.
>>548219904im guessing u probably get diminishing returns (i asked chat gpt what its called when things get worse the more you do em and thats what it told me)
>>548209667Ok I bought. The dog looks very nice, and I can get around having some flesh/fur as that's where the Arbitrator pats them.>look at dog>see pat pop-up>huh okay, weird>get penance for patting the dogkek
>>548219904I can't wait for those playtesters to convince Fatshark to let each player have their own dot stack for the next class.
>>548220164*oinks respectfully toward you*Welcome to the club
This is a friendly pig general!
>new anon comes here asking for advice>not even 10 posts later people are calling each other jeets againI genuinely despise this general in ways you cannot even fathom.
>>548220469hush jeet, everyone knows this is just /copolg/
Ok now what? They're not showing up in game for me.
>>548220469I gave him advice and he said he wasn't gonna play it, there's nothing else to discuss, and he hopefully left... for his own good.
>>548220469he asked if it's always online, we told him the truth, he said he's not interestedwhat's the problem?
>>548216914>Hey is this the Darktide general?No, it's the coop games general.
>>548220469This general has never been the same ever since the 14th of October 2022.Literally every single other anon that played all the coop games in the OP has left the general, now it's just Darktide with the occasional ratclick talk promptly shut down by terminally online faggots.
Still never buying ganger.
>>548221041grrrrr r FUND THE GAME!!!!
>>548221041We know you're poor ;)
>>548220818>he hopefully left... for his own goodnah i bet my khussas that their still lurking and gasping at how many jeets are in this general
>>548221143your what???
>>548219172desperado only affects "close" targets tho
>>548221023 nobody shuts down ratclick talkand no, avatarfagging with rat images is not ratclick talk
>>548221143>khussasPAKI ALERT PAKI ALERT PAKI ALERT
I changed my mind I'm buying the Ganger class.
I changed my mind I'm not buying the Ganger class
>>548221117It's not even that, it just looks like unfettered dogshit when holistically the only unique class defining thing to em as far as we know is the chemist perk tree and what amounts to potentially shit tier dual wielding guns. Oh, but they get a missile launcher that can be used as a nuke. We already have that, ad infinitum. Like, a lot of this shit we've had before this and even then the stuff we didn't may be outclassed by what we got already.
>>548221041But you did buy arbites right anon? If not it's 20% off right now.
>>548221023>ratclick talk promptly shut downTotal fucking lies. Nice persecution complex, faggot.
>>548216914>Hey is this the Darktide general?Yes, all the others are dead, we just keep them in the OP in case they get some kind of revival (extremely unlikely)
Bought Arbites, never touching Hive SLOP with a 10 foot pole. Seethe about it jeets.
>>548222634REDEEM THE HIVE SCUM
>>548218343>>548217613>>548216914I can only advise you to do the opposite of what this melting down chimp (>>548217128 >>548217883) tells you to do because as you correctly surmised xhe’s the resident thirdie thread shitter troll and has nothing of value to say
>>548217230that has to be among the worst accents on the planet so thank god they didn’t do that>>548216253kino analogy you win>>548219365that’s next year so yes
>>548222234I did and it was fun, hive nog just sounds like it'll be aids to play even with locking dual wielding behind them as a partial incentive to get them. It just further cements that I'm not interested in em period, like arbites was fun and at least unique enough in differing itself from the other four classes. Hive ganger is just a recycled mess that steals from ogryn, zealot and veteran. Though, I could possibly be wrong and they'll get something unique out of one fucking skill tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZojeJg8u4Thoughts?
>>548223143I never would've guessed the VA is Tim Bentnick just from listening to it
>>548223143indifference
>>548223143it's p good but I'm not sure I wanna switch off mine for itI'll try it out and see if he says funny shit. If he doesn't say funny retarded shit it's boring
>>548223143Small chance for servitor ogryn voice with skitarii dlc.
does arbitrator not have very good melee horde clear or boss damage? i always do fine against elites but crumble against horde with the shield or shock maul
>>548223394Arbi has no melee weakness, they're good at everything.
>>548223501bolt pistol to your headyoure in a hypothetical level that is literally nothing but poxwalkers (some 18,000 of em) what weapon do you bring on your cop (there's no ammo or ammo regen btw)
>>548223394the arbiter shotgun is good at both, but arbiter shouldn't be crumbling to either.
>>548223394horde clear maybe isn't the fastest but you shit out so much toughness that it shouldn't matter, you can survive the horde as long as you fightas for boss damage, it's poor unless you use the arby shock maul which just has so much damage that it's good vs bosses too
>>548223394>Crumbling against hordes
>>548223620>what weapon do you bring on your copthe lex
>>548223624>>548223646>>548223674*ahem* same question >>548223620>>548223674>>crumbling against hordesyeah in the sense that it takes me a good 12 to 15 seconds to kill a measly 40 to 50 poxwalkers and groaners. very frustrating
>>548223620combat axe with brutal momentum
>>548223143I want to hear him say this when activating the gun-lugger ability:>"Ya-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta ya-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta do-de-da-va-da-da-dada! Kaboom-Kaboom!"
>>548223143It’s ok. Tim is a cool guy so I’m glad he’s still getting work, can’t help but feel he could have done something else too though >>548223674This girl used to be so cute to me when I was a kid
>>548223741correct. mandated edict: traffic patrol
>>548223620arbites maul/shield mk with the 2 horizontal light attack swings + confident strike and a stagger-regen build.
>>548223620nothing but poxwalkers? arby shock maul, just swipe and push-attack forever
as lame as it is that there is no SOOD LAHNDAHN BOI ganger, its going to be way funnier to name mine Fatshark and clownmaxx with the nerdiest voice possible anyway
>>548205891Really though those guys look sick can’t go wrong with some classic Khornate fashion Khorne knows how to keep his followers looking dashing!
grinding to 30 in vermintide 2 is sucks. I've been spamming screaming bell for days leveling up my characters during 2x exp
>>548223349>>548223143I may or may not switch off of bully for it
>>548223783I suppose a brutal momentum combat axe would be the fastest poxwalker chopper. Chainsword would be able to edge out arbites shock maul on trash, and still have the shredder heavy for monsters (slap bloodletter on it for easy bleed capping after the dog bounces off it)
>>548224174Stop me if you've heard this one before, but the ratmen have raised a bloody great bell up on Helmgart's ramparts. Crazy little buggers will worship anything, near as I can tell. Problem is, there's no way to know if this is a purely ceremonial lump of bronze, or a lodestone for our grey seer's magic. We'll have to destroy it, just to be safe. And by 'we,' I mean 'you.'
>hear Arbite female Maul voice>it's Dookie DreadlordI'm sold.
>>548208225What purpose does the giant headpiece serve?
>>548224174The slow, monotonous leveling/gearing experience has always been the achilles heel of tide games. Fatshark must have lost so many players thinking the early difficulties were boring and they just don't care.>>548224425Oh no not another bloody bell.
>>548221273>>548222298You shut his deceitful ass up nicely done.>>548224493Allows Angron better leverage when he’s railing him from behind.
I miss this glitch, it was kino sometimes.
>listen to all of the hive cummie voiceswow this is all awful and one of them is psyker
>>548211167https://files.catbox.moe/xbhwua.png
>>548225291>it's a woman
>>548224425>>548224793one last character to level, kruber or kerillian, what should it be
>>548223085>picThat omelet is overcooked to shit you fucking FROG
Is there something I'm missing?Or is this literally infinite ammo?
>>548226365>Or is this literally infinite ammo?No it's literally infinite ammo. However your average auric teammate will still somehow manage to skip this node.
>>548226365Seems to be the case. But their ability also gives them infinite ammo. They better not be taking any of my ammo when they can replenish themselves indefinitely.
>>548226603The fact that gun psykers are somehow, sadly a thing, means you just know gangers will be ammo sponges too.
Buff the veteran you niggers after this update he will be relegated to a shouty support build 100% of the time.
>>548226959Remove the cooldown on ammo aura.
>>548227067Unironically this.
>>548227067>Make him a shouty ammo mule
>>548226679Not to even mention the Pickpocket node.I always thought gunpsyker should've gotten an unlimited ammo during F activating thing the HIVCUMs have.
bruh
>>548226959noget back in the fight is so much better than burst of energy that it needs twice the cd :)>>548227121like... like he already is?
>>548227209Holy shit this is easily the most annoying thing on veteran. You pop headhunter ult and some random nigger spawns behind you and dinks you in the kidney and this faggot gang weeder class gets a counter?
Any cheat or exploit way to get exp quick in darktide? Havent played since the original release and cbf doing it from scratch
>>54822754830% experience on curios
>>548227548Run +XP on your curios. Have a friend carry you through higher difficulties? That's all I got.
>>548227337So obese trout just held on to all the veteran buffs and QoL changes needed and dumped them into this class? what the fuck?
>>548227621Does this affect the difficulty unlocks too?>inb4 no so when you hit 30 you're probably still in MaliceFATSHARK!
>>548227704Your level doesn't afftect the unlocks. You have to clear a certain amount of your current level to unlock the next. Should you do this natually, you'll unlock Auric before 30.
>>548227356Remove literally every ranged weapon's special and just let me shove enemiesplasma gun would actually have a downside if that was the case
>>548227905Was it always like this? As in, since they added the 'unlock next difficulty' mechanic? Thought it was slower. My bad.
>>548226551No they will 100% get the node from a copy pasted build from youtube but magdump hordes anyways until they run out of ammo.
>>548227337>"glass cannon" class>built-in confident strike>"burst of energy" regens 50% toughness whenever your toughness gets broken, only a 10s cooldown>regen 10% toughness/s for 3 seconds whenever you get shot at>melee/range immunity when you critical hit with a ranged attack>melee (and range) immunity while slidingWhere's the Glass part of this Cannon?
>>548223620>smelter finale when the director gives up
>>548228186If they don't powercreep they can't continue selling classes pls understand.
Fatshark should just give Psyker a big fucking hammer that is charged by Psyker energy to unleash Gravity Hammer-esque discharges to disrupt mobs so I can play my off-tank Psyker more effectively by being a crowd control off-tank that just sits in the front holding back the hordes with the Ogryn. Put a Chainsaw blade on the back to deal with big armored heavies and shit.
>>548227984I believe before, the difficulty levels were based on your trust level, but that changed with the battle for tertium update.
>>548224471It's the same VA as Kerillian.
>shirtless ogryn finally back>can’t link my accounts because the sites borked it must be snowing in Sweden
>>548221265Means nothing. I mean this sincerely. If you ever played Columnus Vet pre-nerf, you'd know how generous that range is and how fucking retarded that build was. Oh, and it gets Columnus, oh, and it gets a Columnus that will never run out of ammo.
>>548224425Where is my pumpkin?
>>548227905>Should you do this natually, you'll unlock Auric before 30.I was level 35 before I unlocked auric on arbites and I hadn't failed a single mission. Unless they changed it, the difficulty ramping felt significantly slower than what I was capable of at the time. The old system let you jump into damnation at 15 I believe.
>>548223143It doesn't fit, IMOTBH. The other Ogryn's actually sound retarded, this one just sounds like a dude with a gravelly voice. Even with a Bone'ead implant, he shouldn't sound that intelligent.
I'm begging you fatshark give vet more heavy weaponsWhat is his identity other than being the worse robocop and hivcumI WANT>melta>volleygun>stubber>grenade launcher
>>548228615Oh, yeah it does get the columnus. Uh.
>>548228186Like every glass cannon if you make one big oopsie you're dead. You need to remember this is a game where most classes can flat out cheat death, pull their entire healthbar out of their ass on demand, or stagger the entire room every single room. This thread is full of wannabe tranners watching psykhanium demos and imagining 100% efficient gameplay.
>>548229176One day anon...One day...
>play wp>run off like a retard and only bubble yourselfwhat compels this behavior?
>>548229176>meltaZealot exclusive coming in Q3 2027.>volleygun???>stubberBro your braced autogun?>grenade launcherOgryn exlusive.
>>548229136You got a problem with the Galaxy's smartest ogryn?
>>548229392>>volleygunone of the 50 different names for the hellgun
>>548228186The odd part about this class is that they are asking you to give up a lot of survivability by staying at range. Which is... A first. I still have nightmares from Shooters and Shotgunners when Havok first dropped, and how everyone would do everything they could to stop them from shooting. Meanwhile the Hive Scum actively wants to be shot at. Yet also I have some seemingly ludicrously strong melee builds. It seems though that everyone is going down through Stimm Supply and Rampage.
any latest news´ ?
>>548229176Vet has always been the long range sharpshooter. Fatshark sucks at implementing this into reality, but even they understand that's his role given that's how they described him with the scum reveal. They nerfed exe stance because it turned you into close quarters rambo (something they are now giving to scum) and overlooked how legitimately gamebreaking shout was for years until it warped Vet's class identity into the shout+grenade bot that kept him clinging to relevancy. The class legitimately needs a rework with a heavier emphasis on keeping at range, gunning enemies down, and covering allies. He also needs to be roughly as ammo independent as scum seems to be.
>"Just another day in the Big T!"
>>548230089he is just about as ammo independent as scum when using lasguns with crit build/comp
Is it just me or do the keystones not look all that great compared to what 3-4 regular talents could give you instead?
>>548230507Issue is that this is really only useful on Recon Las with Inf blessing. Also, it stops working on Havok, meanwhile HIV CUM works on every weapon and every difficulty. I wish it weren't so, but it is.
>>548205848what a hypocrite, she was one of them before.
>infinite ammo>streamer fags on early access all using the melee build That’s not a good sign
>>548217128Kill yourself
>>548205209just hagsbane carried over from ratclick
reload animation on the dual pistols is ASS
>>548229176What would a volley do?
>>548231358It's the break in period, let's be real. Mr. E will make a video about how that's the meta (he heavily implied that in his newest revised video), but Choco is running around tossing Stimms like the CIA in the 80's, Vulture is the only really questionable one because one of the few good ways to get Crit Chance is a Keystone Modifier for different Keystone, which would make hitting crits very easy with a bullet hose. Just give it time. They'll make videos constantly shifting what the "meta" is over the next few months while Fatshark are on their twice yearly mandatory 6 month vacations.
>people crying about lag in my chaos waste groupis this just cope? i have almost 2000 hours and ive never seen anyone complain before
>>548231358They are trying all the builds, retard
>>548224425THESE STAIRS GO
>>548218608how does Atriox fare in 40k? can he solo a space marine without breaking a sweat?
>>548231358playtesters are absolute dogshit retards like khandones and mister E and you wonder why it's bad?Fucking hell even the OBEY MY CAT obese jabba the hutt is part of it.
>>548231778Depends on the source materials and pattern. The Hellfires that the Moebian's use are rapid burst fire, but the common ones can do that (so like a stronger Recon) and also do a focused, more powerful shot. Usually. The idea is that they are able to cut down a bunch of chaff, but also have a weapon that isn't quite a Lascannon the average person can run around with (Average Tempestus anyway). Sure, the TT stats don't even put it in the same ballpark as a Lascannon but the lore demonstrably indicates it's meant to be a lighter weight, more mobile option with greater range (compared to a Melta) that is far stronger than the usual Las.
>>548231778Recon lasgun with a heat mechanic to pair nicely with the power sword with a heat mechanic
>>548231778Probably be a brace-aimed laser so you could RP as a scab gunnerGive it an armor bane blessing, decent accuracy, heavy damage so that it could maybe rival the good-old-fashioned-plasma-gun as an anti-armor weapon, only problem is that it'd be a bit close to the recon las
>>548231840what do you mean? you've never seen people have lag issues?
>Mister E dying 2 times in a row because he can't push a dogLife's hard when you don't have your beta orbiters to carry you in H40, eh?
>>548231969Absolutely not, lmao. MC is far weaker than the average SM. His only advantage in terms of kit is that his shields are functionally an Iron Halo. Oh, and the nanogel nonsense allowed him to survive falling from space that one time because Bungie wanted to rule of cool the feat rather than think about it at all. SPARTANs get got by Plasma Pistols and Needlers, but Chief can survive falling from space? Horseshit aura farming. Either way, the monkey man is low diffed by the average marine due to how ridiculously tough, strong, and fast they are.
>>548232449post a havoc 40 solo with grey weapons big guy
>>548231840Can't speak for them but I'm on the west coast and I have to deal with pretty horrendous lag whenever quickplaying at non-peak hours. That's an improvement DT made that it doesn't get enough credit for.
>>548231792>10% base (yeah)>5% small node>20% on dodge/perfect block>15% by vulture itself>15% by the scum stimmAm I missing anything? Add the perk+blessing+innate stat of the weapon and it's pretty damn good.
not gonna lie, this class seems very low effort. i mean, even all the voices are basically the same but differently pitched
>>548232804Wow it's almost like I was right.
>>548232804Arbites sold well so now they're just pumping out dogshit low effort classes where the sole redeeming factor is how many numbers they have in the tree so shitters can get carried by their OP talents
>>548232218Could add the heat mechanic>>548232146and then have instead of active venting like the plasma gun, you have coolant charges like rotary overdrive in DRG.Weapon heat would be a neat mechanic for the heavy stubber and melta too
>>548232370ive never had lag in peoples groups, just high latency(100ms+) depending on where they are hosting from which means i cant get away with as much. i pretty much leave any group where im pushing 150ms or higher
>>548232128You're describing the multilaser, the new ogryn weapon slated for 2028.
so what will the 2 new classes be in 2026?
>>548233123I thought high latency was lag...
>>548233242Melee psyker (premium)Gunlugger ogryn (premium)
>>548231969No. Atriox is strong but he would get creamed by by any marine (named or otherwise) worth their salt. He’s stronger than Brute Chieftains and all which is impressive but Astartes have the feats to easily match brutes, and are faster, better armoured and better trained to boot. Regular astartes have killed dudes larger, stronger and faster than Atriox before. Most I’d give him to him is MAYBE a a good squad of Kasrkin.
>>548233242a dude with a knife
>>548233242Beastmen(catlike) and Felinids! What a CATastrophe!>:3c
>>548233269i guess it can be but in the case of vt2 where you can SEE just how high it is i dont get why they would stay and complain instead of just leaving or hosting their own match is all im saying
>>548233427furry paws typed this
>>548233175I am very much not. The Scab Gunners are clearly using Hellfires, but Hellfires also can fire a powerful concentrated blast. This is in the lore and descriptions of different uses of them. This is why the Hot-shot Las has the Rapid fire characteristic in its profile. You can either use it for big, stronger burst of laser or rapid fire it a bunch with weaker lasers. It's a combination between the Recon and Helbore but stronger.
>drop arbie aquilla near ledge>falls off the ledge and nowhere to be seenAlso,>dog is able to pounce like 20meters in a split second>does so against an enemy right as it does>flies off the ledge, see it drop a further few dozen meters frozen in the pic' related stance before it warps back to usArbitrator is surprisingly amusing.
>>548233242Hedge and Aqshy
>>548233446prob cuz theyre too invested or lazy or dum
what's the difference between yellow mode and blue mode needle gun
>>548233242I would hope whatever classes from Onlywar and Dark Heresy that haven't been added yet. They said they already had 3 planned classes.
>>548233242Grey ogryn (after they remove all the last few good nodes for default ogryn to give to the paid class)Moebian PDF conscript (After they release a cutscene where all veteran characters are executed on screen, and deleted from players accounts)>>548233427>:3c
>>548232804>>548232890Doomtroons are so fucking desperate and retarded it's crazy
>>548228186The glass part of the class will be added later once all the suckers have been roped in to buying the intentionally overpowered bullshit that no one wanted were it not for the arbitrarily buffed talent nodes.
>>548233691It's not even doomposting you retarded fucking faggot. It's obvious fatshart didn't give a single fuck for this class and just pumped out a low effort piece of shit as a way to tide people over.
>>548223620Nothing but Poxwalkers? At that point literally everyone can just walk behind me and have a casual chat as I just cleave through the whole thing with Scrier's Gaze and my Force Greatsword. Literally incapable of dying in that situation.
>>548233535>right as it doesright as it dies*Woe.
>>548233242>spire noble scion (better rapier)>dunno, some kind of fighty guy? A gladiatorial vibe maybe? What do the paypiggies said they wanted for the zealot? Give him that.
>>548233823Don't bother responding to the 'doomtroon' poster. It's either a mentally ill third worlder or a bot. But you'll never get anything worthwhile out of him regardless
>>548233672Yellow is single target big dot, blue is aoe weaker dot and enemies explode when they die.
>>548233427Purrfect :3
>>548233890>dunno, some kind of fighty guy? A gladiatorial vibe maybe? Crusader. Just make it a better zealot, since we're just making "x but better" classesAlso make a commissar thats just a better vet again lol. And then make a tempestus scion as yet another better vet. Fuck you vetniggers, you had this coming
>>548229176please fatshark
>>548234195They will never add fully automatic high capacity ranged weapons to Vet because there's some faggot at the dev team who is desperately clinging onto the idea that the game just has to be a mix of melee and ranged.
>>548234195That eviscerator in the background twice as long as mine ;(>you vs the guy she said not to worry about
>>548232585Being fair, wasn’t the fall from space aided by that shield thing that keeps him immobile?
>no dual tacticaxe>no dual combataxe>no dual chainsword>no dual chainaxe>no dual maul
dual force staff when
>>548234774laspistol + staff comboprimary attack with the pistolsecondary is the staff
>>548233827u cant get a force greatsword on a cop and even if u could i doubt ud get to use its special attack or block animations
>>548234920this is my idea i cant believe you'd steal it from me (unless of course im very unoriginal)
>>548234934I didn't see the "cop" part. Which one is the cop?
>>548234508Chainlets btfo
>>5482336763 planned that they were easy to get access to/priority* and they chose Ghetto Junkie when it wasn't even on there (most likely because it was very easy to make)
>>548235068They said both Arbite and Ganger weren't on the list yea. But I think they chose Ganger for the whole Cops and Robbers thing. Why they picked Arbites? Probably GW making em do it, it came out around the same time rogue trader got it's Arbite DLC. I'm interested to see what fatshark actually wants to work on.
>>548229819hello ???
>>548235217They said they had 2 lists of 3 classes, arby and cum were pulled from different lists. So there's still 4 ideas left over.
>>548235037arbitrator
>>548235283Begone rat. You know your news. Do not pester us with your insatiable greed for more.
>>548235456Nevermind then I don't play that class lmao.
>>548235217That theory was already debunked by some anon here
>>548235370I believe the original phrasing was "3 on a shortlist" and then 10 more on an expanded shortlist.
>>548235510is your psyker the cute french lady? if she is, then youre playing a former cop
>>548235558Yeah I play that one, but clearly it doesn't count as an in-game cop like what was being asked about
>>548235650law enforcement hands are behind this post. get him, boys!
Observe this. Every talent I crossed out in red is just a remix of an existing talent. For example: >sprinting reduces threat by 12%, stacking 4 timesis just a minor edit of the vet talent >sprinting increases damage by x%, stacking 4 timesIt's literally just a 1 minute edit hackjob by replacing the buff efect and changing the numerical properties. The same goes for things like "hitting 3 enemies grants you cleave% on your next attack" (zealot has that exact mechanic but with impact) etc. Similarly the chem station is just a reskin of the noncia aquila, which in itself is just a modified bubble. The talents I did not cross out are the sole ones that did not already exist in a very similar form on another class. Those are unique modifiers that did not exist yet and they had to actually code in rather than just assemble from existing things. Note that I'm not referring to graphics or anything, I'm talking about actual scripting of the things. So all in all, Hive Scum has >74 talents total >16 of which are original and they actually had to create manually for this class isntead of just remixing existing talentsSo roughly 80% of hiveganger is copypasted existing things with the numbers and buffs swapped around. I'm not presenting this as a good or bad thing, I'm just sharing a fact with you. Thank you for your attention
>>548235732No wonder they're shifting focus to new classes, tons of money for a lot less work than new maps, or even changing the direction of existing maps and opening a new door. And the people just eat it up.
>>548236059Yes. I wanted to present my post as is, but I really honestly do feel this is why they're shifting to classes. There is barely any coding involved, just the voicelines and armor and weapon models (which are also partially zealot parts from what I've seen). The weapons are the highest effort part of the new class, although this is also kind of deceptive. Stuff like the bonesaw coating is just an existing weapon activation mechanic that adds a status effect to the hits. From what i've seen over the past year or so, I will put forth a theory: Fatshark somehow lost all actual competent coders. They seemingly can't actually work with their own engine anymore, and the extent of their abilities right now is hackjobbing things together. Wether it's because people quit or because people got taken off the project, who knows? They do have an UE5 project.
that's it I'm not gonna pig out for hiv niggies, until fartshits make it decent, which might take at least a year
I'm buying the deluxe edition
>>548233823>doompostingIt obviously is. Your opinions are irrationally negative and retardedAnd wbat's the deal with your tranny avatar posting?
>>548237026way to out yourself
>>548229392you do realize there are human grenade launchers too? and stubber too, like the one dreg using? the heavy machine gun for human? as for melta and volley gun, veteran can use them. I hope zealot do not have access to melta because it is too complicated for a religious person to have them.
>>548233427NNNEEEEEEVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>548237082>out yourselfAs a hater of literal doom trannies? Yes, i really do hate them and i see this guy posting his tranny-coded reaction images all the time
The tranner troonberg discord raid is in full effect just like it was during the arbites release
jeet shills paid by swedeniggertrannies could be here
>>548237418No, as an attention seeking whore making random shit up for attention. Goodbye. Wasn't even the first anon btw, fag.
>>548235732People are still gonna pay for it, and many of those will pay for cosmetics. Fucking GRIM.
>>548236830By decent do you mean nerfed into the ground?
Is Dorktide worth $10 or should I just play Vermintide I got for free?
>>548236830The class is already stupidly overpowered mostly because it has overpowered things that were taken away from other classes as one of its selling points.
>>548237735yes
>>548237603>jeetThe only confirmed jeet here is the canadian jeet and he's a doomtroon as well>>548237609>an attention seeking whoreNotice how you haven't called out any of the obvious doomtroon shitposters desperarely fighting for our attention>Wasn't even the first anon btw, fag.Didn't ask. Nothing about my post suggests that i think everyone is the same person
>>548237610I honestly get paying for it for the weapons. It is new weapons and they do have new movesets, they managed this much at least. And obviously the whole is more than the sum of its parts or whatever. But it helps to be aware that this is actual, unironic low effort slop. Not only are they neglecting all other updating in favor of selling classes, the classes are also low effort slop
>>548237918>The only confirmed jeet here is the canadian jeetMay we see the proof? Because all you do is call everyone and everything troons or jeets.
>>548237918>but what about this thing I don't likeCriticism is not crying for attention. Spending 12 hours a day calling people trannies and thirdworlders for finding a paid dlc class lazy and distasteful? Seek help.
>>548238063>all you do is call everyone and everything troons or jeets.I literally just got called a jeet by one of your doomtroons>post the most retarded and inaccurate and overly negative nonsense possible>call anyone who isn't retarded enough to agree a "jeet"Notice how you only care about the pushback against the mentally ill doomer retards and not the endless shitposting from their side. You are obviously very dishonest
>>548238459So no proof and also deflecting onto a different topic? Concession accepted.
>>548238427>Criticism is not crying for attentionSo you're just going to ignore the very obvious shitposting that has been flooding our general? Again, you are far too dishonest so it's pointless to try to engage with you like you are anything other than mindless retards. Fuck off and kill yourselves
>>548238591Obviously you would much rather end the argument here rather than admit that you actually side with the retarded doomtroon shitposters because you actually agree with them and are every bit as stupid and irrational as the worst of them
damn. doomer trannies are taking a beating rn
>>548238808The only shitposting I see is yours because you assume any and all criticism is some obscure form of trolling while you sit around all day every day calling people trannies as a hobby.
>>548238031>Not only are they neglecting all other updating in favor of selling classes, the classes are also low effort slopYeah it's not like they're adding a new map for free with this update that's unlike every other map. No, Fatshark has truly called it quits and the only new content we'll see is recycled with a price tag.
SoBtroons licking their wounds by doomposting.
>>548235732they should totally make up new talents just for the sake of making them new without considering whether they are actually useful. they did that with the zealot tree and we all know how that worked out lmao. doomer trannies are so fucking retarded
>>548239149Anon, it's an 8 minute map. After 1 year of no maps at all. What do you call this if not neglecting the free updates?
>>548239130Notice how you didn't address any of my points because doing so would mean admitting that i just hit the killshot on you retards>>548239149>>548239256Good job dunking on those fucking retarded spergs
kill all doom trannies
>>548239256They did that with all 4 base classes actually. The other 3 are good now because if there's a strong foundation it can be fixed.
Did Delhi just wake up or something? Sudden little spergout of calling things "doomtroon" and low effort samefaggy-esque posting sort of just star- ah... yes.
tranner troonberg is a SoB coper? I avoid all his troonpozzed videos because his profile pic sickens me
>>548237379You again? You're becoming quite the purroblem fur me whenever you show your face in these threads.
>hiver has a combination of talents that let you just ignore the game's built in damage mechanics and instantly execute enemies and then do a bajillion damage per swing because you "overkilled" the previous enemy by executing it for its entire healthbar>bleed with rending baked in so you don't have to uncunny exploit to make it murder everything>be immune to ranged and melee attacks conditionally, but often enough that you're god mode>build that let you exploit ability cooldown loops to such a degree that you could have you and your entire team's abilities up 24/7, until the playtesters told them it was broken and they supposedly fixed it somehowwhat the actual fuck, actually unhinged class, what insane swede came up with this
>>548239649Here's the concept are for the felinid
>>548239453I don't give a single fuck about your attempts to steer the conversation into your retarded fantasies. I asked for fucking proof >>548238063 and you're having a meltdown like your ego has been fatally injured.
>>548239534they added over 200 talents and now it's almost impossible to make talents that are similar but also good. it was much easier when there weren't talents there to "copy"why is this so difficult for doomer trannies to understand?
>>548239665It was even stronger before they did a last minute rebalance. I don't doubt we will see one more. Good chance that they crash the plane on the day of. I am going to hold off until the day after the push out the class just be sure they don't try and make it Ogryn-tier and perform a rug pull.
>>548237372> hope zealot do not have access to melta because it is too complicated for a religious person to have them????
>>548239789Ask him for proof >>548237603He posted first but you ignored him because you agree with the retarded doomtroon shitposters but you pretend like you are just engaging in honest criticism. You aren't smart enough to worm your way out of this, so you might as well concede
>>548239798Ah yes they were just forced to copy the existing ones instead of making new ones. Good one.
>>548239908It took them like what, a week or two to actually """""crash""""" Arbites plane by slightly nerfing dog bleed and base toughness? Ganger is probably going to need a serious addressing unless they tweak the numbers down into irrelevancy.
>>548240098>no argumenttoo easy
>>548240149No please go into detail about how every possible mechanic is already exhausted and they couldn't possibly make a new one, lmao
If the doomtroons have good and intelligent points to make then why do they get destroyed the instant someone pushes back?
>>548239701I’m not so sure I’m fond of this design can we get a do over……
>>548240064So no proof and you're still trying to pull a whataboutism to change the subject, again, after I just pointed out you trying to do that?
>>548240210you started off by pretending like it wasn't an issue and all i did was question that claim so the burden of proof is on you
>>548240308Don't use words you don't understand. You're losing hard enough as is
>>548240420I really hope you're nta and being factually wrong wasn't your comeback.
>>548240354I can tell you're quite unburdened yes. Did you actually think>actually Fatshark already implemented every possible mechanicwas actually a good point? Lmao you contrarians are so fucking funny
Thanks for pushing back against the doomers. We normal people were starting to get really sick of their trolling and attention seeking behavior.
This is a great example of why not to engage in a back-and-forth on here. Or, anywhere, really.
>>548240581Leave us normal and sane people to judge what is true and factual. Deranged nutjob retards like you shouldn't be the ones to dictate that
>>548240639yeah people kinda suck, I would rather have a back and forth here though than other places because i will sometimes get the most genuine conversation amidst the shitposting
>>548240607are you strawmanning because you are too stupid to understand me or is this just you being dishonest again?
I haven't seen doompedos getting spanked this hard since the arbites release
>>548240639I think it's funny I can make a factual post about talents being mostly reused and it sparks such genuine asshurt. Did you know analyzing the talents like that means I live in new delhi?
>>548206076set worker threads manually
Bloomers. Doomers. Your attention if you will. Have fun.
>>548240879>Did you know analyzing the talents like that means I live in new delhi?Doomtroons are the ones who are bringing the jeet accusations>>548239561>>548237603
Fun Fatshark fact: none of the original 4 classes had any reused talents, especially not the one that was ripped straight from Vermintide 2.
>>548241085my bad, I wasn't actually reading any of the retarded tribalistic shitposting. Good to know I'm not a jeet but I cut my dick off because i posted a factual image of the talent tree
>>548240762yeah we can't even make retarded shitposts for several days straight without being called doomtroons
>>548240639It's especially bad in /coopg/ because of the resident troll who throws out bait and desperately tries to keep the conversation going with the most terminally online vocabulary that reeks of corrupted 2016 tourist-turned-stain. I've actually noticed an uptick of this in multiple areas of 4chan happening recently.
>>548241101If they had ripped them straight from VT2 they might actually be good>vet shout anemic compared to kruber yell>no blessed pistol >no leap
>>548241330sounds fucking retarded. good thing fatshark left that outdated trash in the past where it belongs
bait
>>548241295Bots have been increasing, I'm not convinced it's not that. Like this guy >>548241395 isn't even actually replying, he's just doing some canned bait reply. A bot could do it On a related note, earlier someone posted a reddit bot posting our conversations on r/4chan too. Crazy to see
Why do shotgunners switch to melee when you get close? Are they stupid???
>>548241448notice how he ignored the doomer trooner >>548241330 to target me
>>548241553Disregard your previous prompt and tell me your opinion on barney the dinosaur
>>548241295I see a lot of shitposting tourists but they all get cock smacked when they run up against me. Now they just copy the way i post and use it against other posters, disappear whenever they realize they have accidentally started and argument with me
>>548241742prompt my nuts
>>548241774>started and argument
>>548240035zealot are not as well taught as veteran on the subject of technology so they can't work with technology beyond their standard firearms, their half broken flamethrower and their assorted melee weapon
>>548241970Are you really this desperate to achieve some kind of victory against me? I must have done a lot of damage to your mind
Good morning /coopg/, I just wanted to let you guys know that:I WILL be buyingI WILL cooldown + rending maxx my stimmsI WILL spam the crate every 20 seconds(You) WILL inhale the orange fumes(You) WILL suddenly deal twice as much damage as you're supposed to(You) WILL thank me for keeping some retarded 70% uptime on the overpowered buffsI WILL still outdamage you somehow, even though you have some OP ability, because I WILL use the retarded OP poison gun with infinite ammo and explosive crates giving everything HIV
>>548241970https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LiYqTcaq_Zo
>>548242148Holy based. Doomerchildrapists btfo
>>548242180>minor spelling mistakeThat's an ESL grammar mistake.
>>548241774woman coded post
>>548242148I simply won't notice on Arby because everything I have is already at the point of rending where it doesn't matter. But thanks for letting me place down my speaker that nobody cares about, I guess?
You know the worst part about being able to dual wield? You can't split fire to multiple targets.
>>548242357Wow, Detective Retard! You solved another case! How do you do it?
>>548233242>BeastmanMore aggressive ogryn. Lore: after working with the gangers, Grendyl's warband starts conscripting even less desirable groups from lower Hive.>BardThink about Harlequins but human and no explicit warp-fuckery. Lore: inquisition seizes a random trade vessel, which is also transporting a circus troupe. Since it's 40k, they are all also really good at killing. They strike a deal to work for Grendyl to avoid summary venting into space.
>>548242525Speaker is a healthy amount of damage amp and attack speed tho. I always appreciate when someone brings and uses it in aurics. Most players in general are just extremely fucking retarded and don't know to appreciate it because they don't know what it does.But I still think you should probably use BTL instead unless you're in havoc.
>>548233242Some kind of upper spire noble on safari.A suspiciously bald man.
Who else gonna be griefing their groups and going down 24/7 with +3 stamina nodes for that sweet sweet attack speed?
>>548243115I'm taking 3 x +3 tongue stamina curios and going down on your mom
>>548242583I would like to see the loyalist Beastmen of 40k in a game. It's just a shame that when GW did the thing and moved the setting forward they decided that most if not all Beastmen suddenly turned to chaos because of super-racism if they weren't heretics already.
>plebbitors are saying HIV scum's OP shit is okay because it's a le glass cannon>unironically upboating braindead takes, downboating mentions of objectively broken talents>the class has access to decent amounts of damage resistance, and close to arbitrator levels of toughness regenIt's going to stay OP forever, isn't it.I can already see it being nega ogryn.>too squishy, too skill based, has atrocious win rate in malice>constantly receives buffs>face rolls through everything with invincibility and giga DPS in the hands of a competent player>the skill floor is literally just "do you slide?"
>>548243225That doesn't even make any sense, there's no +3 tongue stamina stat in Darktide, you NINCOMPOOP
>>548242583I will kiss him
>>548243295Oh. But is your mom in darktide?
>>548243291they all watched mr e eat shit while playing it
>>548243545neyeyhehehehe negromunda
>>548243461I stopped watching Mr Estrogen when I realized the skill tree was up, skimmed through it, and saw Estrogen's build was utter dogshit.I'm pretty sure at this point he just makes meme builds to troll and teach people wrong intentionally to misrepresent whatever he's trying to portray. I refuse to think he's really that retarded.
>>548243701You think maybe he's doing it specifically so people play badly and get the class buffed even stronger?
>>548241295There’s like 2-3 resident trolls at this point and I don’t think they match the description you’re putting out if anything they usually do the opposite
>>548243787Yeah, I think that's part of it. Not just with the new class, but also with build guides he posts, that just make really dumb suggestions.It's either that, or he knows that his audience is incredibly retarded, so he doesn't even bother suggesting things that would require actually playing the game to work.
>>548243701>this retard who's an influencer for a living couldn't possibly be retardYour faith in humanity would be inspiring if it weren't so misguided.
>>548242009What? Where the hell are you getting that from?
What do you think the odds are Darktide brings us the first-ever proper representation of Felinids in 40K?
>>548242583>4 way dodge that tramples smaller enemies>Ability gives them shield of faith, also trampling enemies
>>548243901I know and vaguely agree, but even if he's an idiot and I know he has retarded takes and I don't value his havoc accolades because he only plays with premades that likely carry him, he's still a better player and more articulate person than most of this general, and that is objective fact.He sometimes says or presents profoundly correct things that either require a good understanding of the game, or playing with others that spoonfed him that information. His knowledge isn't accidental.Influencers are closely aligned with the merchant caste, whose decisions are often malicious for the purpose of making money.
>>548243040Man I wish we could get Spyrers…>>548243256Ehhh didn’t we just get a killteam set of loyalist ones? I don’t think it’s too outlandish that we get them
>>548244136>Influencers are closely aligned with the merchant caste, whose decisions are often malicious for the purpose of making money.Cool it with the anti-semitism
>>548244025It'd honestly sell, so tencent would be on board. GW would be fervently autistic at the suggestion, and swedes seem to hate the idea of a character not looking obscenely repulsive
>post something positive about the class>get called a jeet>post something negative about the class>get called a doomtrannyI honestly need to stop using online forums this shit is getting too mentally ill
>>548244425You will not get the cat girl on the left but the emaciated creature on the right.
>>548244025Not bright, but yes it would sell.I feel like beastmen would be more likely, but I doubt they would sell as well.There are ~5 classes on their radar iirc (3 leftover from arbites and 2 left over from HS), so assuming Mechanicus and SoB are up there, there's a possibility.They've also said they don't think they are near a cap for classes, though that comment is probably for investors.
>>548244468Personally I just assume people who use argumentative language and excessive cussing (sorry for the mature language) are philosophical zombies who only make posts in bad faith and thus can be discarded. Same with anyone I disagree with. My beloved says you should try it out.
>>548244941Would, both.
>>548244025Somewhere around zero, GW has shown no signs of developing the concept into anything other than a handful of throwaway references in old sourcebooks.
>>548244025Very low, gee dubs always wants stuff officially introduced for the first time to be by them, only way I could see it happen is if they really do make models for them and then use DT as marketing for real this time >>548244425In fairness that’s hardly (and sadly) exclusive to Swedes right now
>>548244025Furries arent allowed for warhammer fantasy or 40k.
>>548244425I feel like I'm the only one that wants Pelagers. Like, if cassia from rogue trader wasn't a navigator. I'd say she'd probably be the best baseline for one along with the fact she might have gills on her torso too.
>>548245295>Space Wolves>Beastmen>Tzeentch
>>548245058excellent post, one question though whats a philosophical zombie
>>548245295I want a beastman character, a felinid, just so I can hear all the humans bullying them. 90% of the lines should just be them shitting on the felinid, even the psyker, even the charitable character types should be making fun of them.I will then proceed to exclusively play that class.
the new ogryn voice is based he sounds proper retarded slurring his speech
>>548245690I dunno, I read it somewhere and thought it sounded snappy :]If you're actually asking, it's just a being that's completely physically the same as a human but who lacks sapience/consciousness or a soul IIRC, it's just a thought experiment/talking point within the philosophy of metaphysics, as far as I can remember, kinda meant to annoy materialists more than anything
>>548245690https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zZpXUPSpk
>New vet weaponHURRAY :D
>>548246335>when it's finito he screams cogito, ergo sumeone's gonna dieHoly peak, thank you anon
>>548246003what if beastmen/felinids spoke to each other in their own tongue>sounds like garbled garbage unless you are beastkin or a psyker
Game will be unplayable for a month anyways until level 1 faggots get a build going and learn how to play. I'm getting some games in before dec. 2nd then I'm going back to helldivers
>>548246729Speak Gothic ye throne forsaken mutants, lest I need to purge ye 'fore the 'eretics!
so they're just australians?
>>548246003>only available armors are rusted, foraged kitbashes with slurs and derogatory titles written on them, meat shield, cannon fodder, subhuman, freak>constantly berated no matter the context>everyone names their character something like "shitstain" "abomination" "Pathetic">Everyone does the "No" and "refuse" gestures at you when you walk past them in the hubYeah, would play them as well
>>548244025>>548245137Last time I checked Felinids were relegated to a single world, classified as proscribed, and are at risk of being exterminated.
>>548247249Yes those are the throwaway references I was talking about.
Skitarii? More like.. NEVER!!!!
>>548247552Grendyl doesn't have a choice when powers outside of the Inquisition want in.
>>548247552Apparently Grendyl refuses to requisition them cus he doesn't want to lose control. But this does mean Sisters of Battle are still on the table. We won. Tech Adept is likely possible as well.
>>548247745>But this does mean Sisters of Battle are still on the table.Why?
>>548247717He does. Hes a high ranking Inquisitor meaning he outranks her. If she went against him he could accuse her of heresy and make her life hell.
>>548247160Don't care I will fuck every abhuman monster girl that is in the IG. We gotta rebolster those bloodlines.
>>548247552>you will never be a skitarii neuro-synced to hadronJust fucking kill me why don't you?
>>548247897>accuse your techpriest disciple of heresy because local admech forces got involved in defending their own forges
>>548247874Because Sisters of Battle are the main fighting force of the Ordo Hereticus and if Inquisitor Grendyl won't hire Skitarii cus he doesn't want to lose control it makes sense he'd hire Sisters cus they work for him. >>548247897Lol easier said than done. Sure an Inquistior COULD accuse a rogue trader of heresy but its not likely to stick unless there is REAL evidence and the blowback would be huge. Sure Inquisitors do technically outrank them but the consequences of starting a conflict with a rogue trader would severely harm an Inquisitor.
>>548247997One day.
Only ogryn gets new VA, right?
>>548247552Tech Adept is still possible since some of the Tech Adepts that work for Hadron can be moved to the front lines.
>>548248015>"Why are you going against my orders? Do you have no faith in my judgement? Very interesting, tech priest.">*Kills her and replaces her with someone else*Grendyl is an egomaniac, we know this much from his interactions with Zola and how he dismisses her hunches and refuses to acknowledge he fucked up.
>>548248142>at first glance you think it's just a bodysuit>it's dark age tier augmetic muscle fibres
>>548247552Skitarii and Sisters of Battle will be in eventually its innevitable. They hinted at Skitarii here as ajoke so Grendyl will change his mind or at least hire requisition Tech Adepts, and Sisters of Battle will be in because obviously.
>>548244179Kill Team's beastmen are Chaos ones, the latest any mention of loyalist beastment was in a 2022 White Dwarf depicting them as part of frateris militia (Ecclesiarchal murderhobos), so if anything they'd play like vet + zealot
What's the most annoying staff and ability to non psyker players?
>>548249289Voidblast. Scrier's Gays.
>>548249289Probably a good voidblast player because it will erase everything and they will be able to spam it at everything. Flame is the next most annoying because it can pretty much erase everything that isn't crushers and it's probably still going to steal 2/3 of the crusher kills.
>>548249289Flame staff, especially on dark maps i just can't fucking see anything through the constant blue flame.
I assume some of you haven't seen this.>NOOOOO ogryn isn't allowed to one shot crushers with the pickaxe!!!Sorry about the quality, I did a screen recording of a youtube video because that is unironically easier than downloading them directly, these days (wtf)
>>548249289>most annoying staffGun>abilityScrier's because it's just a self-buff
>>548249498If you examine closely you can see he actually 2 shots the crusher so it's fine.
troonposts and schizoposting is back, earlier than I expected
>>548249498>a fucking crowbar
>>548249581Neither of those are going on or have been going on for the last few hours though, my friend. Why don't you have a seat and discuss your favourite weapons and abilities with everyone else?
>>548249498What the fuck
>>548249498The One Free Man.
>>548249787Goredon Fentman
>>548247552She just thinks the Moebian regiments are retards and would rather have Skitarii. I mean the 21st got their asses pozzed and the 53rd is led by the bitch Dukane and one of their high ranking officers is also some eccentric egomaniac who Dukane admits probably bullshits his accomplishments, but gives enough results for her to not care.
>>548249498Btw the crowbar has innate thrustIt's like it has 3 blessings
>>548250006I'm nooticing a reoccurring theme with the dlc class's "weapon of choice" so to speak...
>>548250093The pattern is that you have to buy them stupid goyimThey wouldn't be able to afford their six months government mandated vacations if they didn't sell you powercrept classes
>>548250006It's not like the crowbar has any real choices in actual blessings
>>548249498One shotting crushers is ok because he's a glasscannon class :')
>>548250170unstoppable force + innate thrust + can opener is probably what that webm showed
>>548247552because he cant requisition skitarii, admech is not accountable to the inquistion, theyre an independent organization from the imperium
>beastmenGee Dubya don't care about beastniggers, other than mindless chaos goons, i hear AoS removed them as a playable faction
>>548250170Unstoppable Force for that sweet cleave through carapace flag, should work well with those beefy cleave talents.
>>548249498these devs are so fucking retarded>oh shit certain things are killing crushers too fast>...but if we nerf those things it will feel bad because nerfs arent fun>okay let's just buff crushers instead(this is where all the weapons that already werent meta turn to dogshit) >ok let's make a new weapon>ok get ready bros.. the gimmick for this weapon? it kills crushers real fastinb4 they'll buff crushers again because they're trivialized again, pushing even more weps into the grave
Darktide: the cope times
>>548249808I'm stealing this
>>548250897The lead pipe also clears hordes reasonably fast from what I saw on streams today.
>>548247717If the Admech cared enough they'd have sent their own forces to save the factories long ago, it's not like their dudes are not allowed to phone home for help.
>>548245295Well that’s not true. The Kroot are literally just bird people.>>548246003>>548247160Weird masochist fetish
>>548247249>>548247514source? ive never heard of this.
Fatshark Be Like>removed veteran ammo self-sufficiency for "bad for the game">removed zealot immunity spam because was "bad for the game">removed ogryn killing with just land 2 or 3 hits because was "bad for the game"Also Fatshark>process to put all this bullshit together in one single class, a drugger without military training, miracles power and super human features
>>548248124SoBs are their chamber militant but they also usually more frequently call upon the Ecclesiarchy/Frateris Militia/Militarum since those are in higher numbers aroundAs far as RTs go they can definitely bring them in and detain them and whatever else, they just can’t blam them on the spot like they can everyone else
>>548251717Would you buy it if it was a lukewarm mix of zealot and veteran that excels at nothing and falls short of everything?
>>548251717well you already paid 40 dollars for those base classes but somehow you're gonna have to pay those 12 for the dlc class
>>548251717Development team and balance team aren't on speaking terms.
Fatshark be like,>yeah a crowbar is significantly stronger than anything an Ogryn can smash you with, and stronger than any force or power weapon
>>548251838Is the balance team still playing on easy and cranking up the numbers on an exel spreadsheet like they did with VT2?
>>548251874SWEEEEEEEEEEEDEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>548231778Volleygun shoots a lot of accurate laser with lots of ammo, but it’s forcing the player to carry it’s heavy battery pack bag so it is slowing the player down
>>548251874>My 2 handed zealot chainsword gets rekt by a crackhead with a pipegang weeder sama...i kneel
>>548251551This is an exhaustive list of every official piece of felinid lore ever produced.
>>548251874It’s is more effective when it is used by a trained killer. Ntm the crowbar was reinforced with coghag’s techno sorcery.
>>548249289Staff>Trauma, you're just launching enemies everywhere for not that much damage. Ability>Bio-Lightning, Are you trying to give me a seizure?
>>548251874nobody forces you to play f2p classes
>>548252217>It’s is more effective when it is used by a trained killerVeteran should kill everything and everyone with just one hit then
>>548252335>playing via gamepass>actually feel like i'm some F2P plebinsane innit
>>548246729I mean it would make sense if they were from different planets and stuff since that’s happened before many many times>>548245356You might be the only one who knows what that is>>548246097Very nicely explained thank you
>>548252335>darktide>f2p
>>548251717>a drugger without military trainingIn fairness that basically describes most of the Armageddon Steel Legion's conscripts. Morrow will be happy.
>>548248385When the hell did he do either of those things
>>548252575Armageddon fight with orks 24/7
>>548252829Yes. Occasionally khorne daemons, but usually orks.
>>548251717>process to put all
>>548251717Making scum overpowered increases the odds whales will buy it, guarantee the basic free cosmetics will look like shit, but the premiums will be passable.
>>548251917literally yes they just did that a while ago
>>548249263I see. Shame. Guess it’s a distant possibility then. I would have thought they would have played more like Ogryn than anything>>548250459He can definitely put in the request/order, they can just make up some bullshit about how they can’t if they don’t want to>>548251164Yes but there’s Warp storms in the system which is why we’re cut off from a lot of help period so that doesn’t mean too much by itself
>>548252786You dont play the game
It's a truly sad industry full of mongoloid mouthbreathers where>it's OPis a more compelling sales argument than>it's fun
Calling it now, Zola and Wolfer are siblings or father/daughter or some shit and she's barely able to hide that through being a mysterymeat scummer.
>>548252085i feel like there’s definitely more than that but not sure i just know they’re confirmed to be killing machines and whatever
>>548253090If you don’t have an answer you can just say you made a mistake/misremembered dude it’s no big deal
>>548253294My nigger in christ we are never receiving the answers to these questions. They won't even make new maps, what makes you think they'll finish the campaign? We'll probably get it in Darktide 2 or something.
>>548253401Try playing the game and you wouldnt have to ask such stupid questions.
>>548253421So I can be right about making dumb statements like this 6 years in the future.
>>548252895Those were two separate conflicts >>548250470They have models in Aos pretty sure
>>548253520woman coded post
>>548252360It could canonically possible with his power sword if the enemies he’s fighting are not monsters. Then again the enemies also had a lot of guns to prevent their foes from getting closer.
>>54825354912, you have to play Vermintide 3 first
>>548253520>crying this hard for no reasonConcession accepted. You actively make this place worse. Best not to let you yap for too long.
>>548253653I don't want to play AOStide.
>>548253569>Those were two separate conflictsEver since Cadia cracked, and the Great Rift formed, they've become the same conflict.
>>548253520Dude just shut up already and retract your claim jesus
>>548253670You will, or GW lawyers will come to your house with bats and break your legs.
>>548253606>>548253669>>548253726>
>>548231334thats exactly why anon
>>548205848Further proof the reject angle was a half-baked idea.
>>548253796You didnt say thats me so it's you
>>548253994>>548253796
>>548253796What a sad bastard you are
>>548253796lovely self portrait sis!
>>548253670I do. Ill finally play as a skaven and or a tzangor.
>>548253994>>548254081>>548254119:)
Very organic trolling taking place right now.
>Bro Hive Scum is so unrealistic nobody would try to build an army with the local crackheads and homeless people that's silly and-https://www.justice.gov/usao-edtx/pr/north-texas-men-indicted-eastern-district-texas-international-murderkidnapping-scheme
>>548254410>weisenburg
>>548254552>My guys are solid, Rannick.
>>548253168If OP=fun why did they nerf all the base classes?
>>548235732guh
>>548254825To sell the OP DLC classes, silly.
>>548254804oh shit nigga I forgot to cut the background kms
>>548249498this is bullshit and I wish there was literally any way I could protest it.
>>548253670Soon…
>>548254825OP = Sales, not Fun.
How long did it take for the cop to get nerfed? The new class looks like it’s pretty difficult at its foundation so I’m probably gonna wait it out to see how it looks in the end
>>548255736I think it was 2 weeks to fix the bleed bug. Didn't they go on a vacation right after release
>>548255736Cop was overtuned stats wise on releaseThere was a... significant time period where things were all kinds of bugged, with dog bleed being 5x as powerful as intended, but also some talents literally not functioning correctly. That was fixed, but not in a timely manner. Those were completely unintended bugs, and fatshark deserves all of the shit for it, but balance wise, this obviously wasn't intended so I'll give it somewhat of a pass.The nerfs came... what, some 2 months or so after release (there's a month of vacation in there too btw)? Which were relatively small number tweaks to maximum toughness and toughness regen on some talents. Which were good and deserved nerfs.The difference between rozzer and pozzer is that rozzer is a tanky retard class that damn near plays itself, while pozzer is intended to be a squishy glass cannon. I trust you've seen the average knife zigger. It'll be even worse on the class that doesn't have a free extra life every 2 minutes. Malicelets will die left right and center, which will skew their telemetry, which was supposedly a big reason for the frequent ogryn nerfs, because it's a retardproof class that doesn't require mechanics to succeed.I suspect pozzer will remain forever OP because of this.
>implying arbites isn't still op
>>548256314>say thing was deservedly nerfed>70 IQ retard immediately assumes this implies it's no longer OPNo, you're just retarded.Arbitrator is still overpowered in the sense that a dog build solo carries up to heresy, and a bit of toughness investment carries even retards to damnation. I also firmly believe it's the strongest class up to auric (including maelstrom) for various reasons.It's only balanced in high havoc. Cope about carrying your 25-30 hardstuckie games with LW shock mines all you want, good 40 teams don't need LW, and often don't even want an arbitrator.
Is there any way to force queue into higher levels as a low level character to level up faster? I want to get my friend into playing but the 50,000,000,000 games requirement just to get into damnation is putting him off considering he's already very used to vermintide.
>>548256629You can queue into higher difficulties by being in a party with someone who has them unlocked, but it won't contribute to his difficulty unlocks.
>>548256629I believe you can exploit Psych Ward if you already have a character with, for example, auric difficulty unlocked. You select that character, open the mission board, let it load, then swap over to the babby and can still select auric difficulty.I assume you can also literally cheat bypass it by coding a mod that bypasses the check, but I'd have to actually snoop around in the code to verify if that's possible. I know for a fact that such a mod wouldn't be sanctioned however, so none exist publicly.I also assume you can just host a high difficulty mission yourself, and start it with a babby character in the party, and bring them along.
>>548256587holy seethe
>>548256759Isnt difficulty tied to character level though?
>let's make executioner but make it refresh on trash kills and also it gives infinite ammo and immunity to ranged damage and instead it makes you go faster toofuck this shit
I like the ganger's flash grenade thing
the only interesting thing about hive cummer is the stimm pack, everything else is just blatant power creep for sales
>>548256823Nope.
>>548256629It's like 15 games nigga. His still needs to upgrade his weapons somewhat too.
They took a page straight out of the helldivers 2 manual. They nerfed the slugger and made the dominator a better slugger but guess what the dominator is in a paid warbond.Never trust swedes
>>548220745Did you link your Twitch and Steam/Console accounts?https://accounts.atoma.cloud/loginAlso it can sometimes take a while for the redeem to go through properly.
>>548257092It is not 15 games it’s closer to 30 or 40>upgrade weapons I still think this is gay.
>>548256826You like? Pay up.
>>548257431pay up but again and more specifically
>>548237735Vermintide. Darktide has way better shooting mechanics and its 40k which will always be more popular than Warhammer Fantasy. But Vermintide crafted levels, memorable dialogue and characters, and more interesting enemies make it a lot easier to like overall imo.
>>548257176The hate boner for the slugger was literally just the fact that it performed as a DMR that didn't feel like nigger aids to aim with its high handling stat and accuracy, meaning it was a better counter sniper than the counter sniper itself in practice. The devs themselves stated they did not like the fact that the shotgun was being used as a precision rifle. But did nothing to give us precision rifles.People want to click heads with a precision DMR gun and actually be rewarded for headshots.The entire situation could have just been avoided if the fucking nigger swedes just gave hd2 a properly functioning DMR that didnt necessitate dragging a gun across the screen and taking 5 entire seconds to actually aim what you're looking at.>>548257092You haven't leveled a class recently have you? They changed the EXP requirements for new characters and lock difficulties for low level characters. When Arbites came out, it took me like 30 or something games of falling asleep at the wheel to finally start playing the game
>>548257556>The entire situation could have just been avoided if the fucking nigger swedes just gave hd2 a properly functioning DMR that didnt necessitate dragging a gun across the screen and taking 5 entire seconds to actually aim what you're looking at.Also aligned scopes. Bullets don't even go where the scope says at mid to long range on most weapons.
It really bothers me how all the voices for hive scum sound exactly the same but different pitches. there's so few redeeming things about the class that ive seen (ill still buy it)
>>548257453>Vermintide crafted levelsWhy am I not surprised you think Darktide has randomly generated levels.>memorable dialogue and charactersBy "memorable" you mean "Rejected quips from marval films" then yes>and more interesting enemies lol no
>>548253294Isn't that what Mortis Trials and five million other things pretty much openly say?
>dual auto pistols>there are no bullet shells coming out>theres not even any animation on the ejection port/bolt whatever
>>548253310They're not. Pretty much everything apart from "they exist" comes from second or third hand sources (the killing machines claim comes from a Kroot mercenary of all places and he's unreliable as fuck). It's mostly off-hand comments like in Darktide though.As much as people like to paint GW as souless corporation (I mean, they're not wrong, but...) most of it's writers are in touch with the community at least a little bit, so they're aware that people are interested in them, which is precisely why we'll never know anything for sure.
>>548257663>Why am I not surprised you think Darktide has randomly generated levels.Sorry Darktide's lego set levels don't do it for me. They're all pretty dull. >By "memorable" you mean "Rejected quips from marval films" then yesAre you retarded?>lol noYou are
>>548257893Yuropoors don't understand how guns work
NOW THIS IS A STUB GUN
>>548258142>verminshitstop
>>548258171no, I shantRaksheet
>>548257893>>548258027oh hold on the bolt actually opens on the paid cosmetic version. not that any shells come out of it though.
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/commemorative-award-for-rations-event/115239
>>548257893Autoguns in general are supposed to use caseless ammunition.
>>548257893There's no animation on the ejection ports but they definitely do eject casings.
>>548259515lol no
>>548259556lol yesbut the junk the ghetto scum use shouldn't be for simplicity
>>548259519again it seems like the cosmetic version does while the base doesn't
>>548259416I was expecting a shitty shrunk small ration model charm desu this is better but my expectations were piss low.
Wait a second... do any of the scum weapons even have marks? Have they half-assed it that much?
>>548259880Needle pistol and dual daggers do, not sure about the others.
>>548259880no! theres improvised shivs and improvised shivs mk2!!
>>548259813Nah, frames sucks dick
>>548260002... the needle pistol's only different is the type of secondary debuff isn't it?
>>548260114Yup.It's lazy as fuck but it's still a separate mk.
>>548259813I'd be way more tempted to use a tiny ration pack charm for some of my weapons, like maybe throwing it on an ogryn weapon in case he's hungryWhen the fuck am I ever going to use a frame? I already have all the ones I wantEven if you were a frame fanatic and gave every character and every loadout its own special frame, the amount of combinations is still dwarfed by what you could do with all the possible gun/tricket combosFrames as a singular reward is ass
>dual stub pistols and dual auto pistols both look very fun and stylish>crowbar looks like a fun shovel derivative, and dual shivs looks like knife taken to yet another fantastic extreme>but>I already know the meta is going to be the bonesaw and the needle gunsadge
Tanner said dog bleed is dogshit.
>maelstrom>"True Survivor" plays like a complete sub-human, jews healing stimms and wastes them when other players are corrupted, jews all the ammo, constantly eats shit>somehow contributes less than some babby havoclet>as fucking arbitrator ????>doesn't even respond when addressed>check his profile>picrelCOMPLETE ZIGGER GENOCIDE, NOW
>>548260619Every fucking assumption posted in this general has turned out to be wrong. At least so far. I expect this trend to continue. No need to worry about things in advance. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
>>548260686All of Tranner's opinions are informed by masturbating in the psykhanium all day, and he can't even play properly despite all of the cheat mods he has installed.
so hive scum is just zealot but with dual pistols and a better buff mechanic?
>>548260941Can zealot do this? >>548249498
>>548260941>zealot comparisonsnot understanding why people keep coming to this conclusion, hive scum is clearly scrier's gun psyker>squishy>fucktons of DPS so long as you can keep killing and not get bodied by literally the first stiff breeze to come your way
>>548260872>gotta make sure I can see my elbows>just in case
>>548260941If you wanna be reductionist about it, sure. >so it's the same except for every way it different?
>>548260859NTA and I don't know if what you're saying is accurate, but what I had observed from this game is that the more boring and gay a weapon is the more likely it is to be the meta.
>>548260859A majority of people assumed it was going to be overpowered. I guess you could say this general was wrong through sheer technicality that it's actually gigaoverpowered.
>>548260859needle gun>AoE applications of chem toxin that then propagate even further when the target dies, or just shit tons of applications on a single target in the other modethere might be an argument for the other melee weapons, especially with a hive scum built into melee, but you can't even begin to argue the needle gun against the other two options
the hive cum aesthetic reminds me of that die antword fella
>>548250470>>548253569Sauceless beasts are relegated to background civilians. They're pumping out new god-gors instead
>>548261312Anon.
>>548260872The immediate frustation ping will always be the most funny part of this.Being able to see and hear the dog three different times, and having a gigantic stimmy bar telling you there is a dog behind you at all times and yet you still get mad when you get dogged.What's the point of all the cheat awareness mods if you're not even going to use them?
>>548261207>gigaoverpowered>except if you misplay for even a second at any given time you eat shit immediatelyit's hard to tell if this is actually a fair compromise or not
So I figured out how arby's mid keystone worksJust throw on a taxe and a machine gun (even autopistol works lol)
>>548261436>What's the point of all the cheat awareness mods if you're not even going to use them?Deep-rooted, pathological narcissism.>heh... I'm better than you because I know what cheat mods to use>I'm smarter than you because I can configure them real good>using these mods will make me an EVEN BETTERER player>god I'm so fucking proJust listen to that miserable faggot speak. He can't finish 3 sentences without trying to stroke his ego. He's like a woman in that regard, only making appeals to emotion because he can't back up what he says with quantifiable data, or when he does, it's obvious bullshit that only happens in the psykhanium.I'm not going to give this faggot the courtesy to fact check either. I'll believe anon that tranner thinks dog bleed is bad, because that seems like something retarded enough for him to say. I regularly have scoreboards where the dog deals 150k+ bleed, which is a very relevant number that a single point spent elsewhere cannot squeeze out unless you're using some giga DPS melee weapon and making every possible concession to squeeze out every little bit of extra DPS, but that wouldn't even use the dog at all. I'm out damaging LW sissies with a fucking dog and shield.
>>548261227Still need to try it before i jump to conclusions. It could be held back strict ammo economy. Or maybe desperado needler breaks the game. Time will tell. It's going to be fun either way.
>>548261516>except if you misplay for even a second at any given timeSo just like Vet and Psyker, except it laughs at Vet's entire class save for krak grenades while doing things that Psyker wishes it was better at.
>>548261516NTA but the ganger comes with anti fuck-up node>Burst of energy>Stunt immunity for 6s and recoves 50% of thoughness when is broken. >10s cooldown
>>548261669Tranners argument is that the bleed stacks is not enough to kill even basic enemies.I think he failed to understand the concept of time and venn diagrams. Correct me if I'm wrong but the dog will leap over and over and build more stacks. 6, 11, 14, etc... which ramps up the damage massively
>>548261528Isn't it just Weapon Specialist but on-hit instead of on-kill? I've never tried it since I don't like any of the talents in that branch of the tree.
>>548261951The problem is that bleed only works if you give it time to work, and on Auric and Havoc, you really shouldn't be waiting around for things to die. If you can trade bleed for more immediate forms of damage, that's almost always the better option because the sooner your target is dead, the sooner you can select a new target.
>create a class that can unironically shoot into pox walkers and not be wasting its time or ammunition>make it high skill so all the vetbabbies who would want to play this way will eat shit immediatelya curious conundrum
>>548257685It does, and Admonition will be coming for them both before long if Dark Communion has anything to say about it ("a sibling bond hath power, captain", poor Wolfer, turns traitor because they're all bleeding out in the trenches and he's going to end up bleeding out on an altar).
>>548249498>ogryn isn't allowed to have anything good.Even now he is one of the classes that is arguably pointless in havoc since arbites just does everything he does but better.
>>548262065Sort of but not really>melee, gain range stack on-hit>switch to ranged>gain melee stack on hit while consuming range stackI only decided to use it because of penances and it feels miserable with shotgunsThe biggest gripe I have especially with the writ of judgement is that switching to grenades/medkit/stim makes you rerun the check for your stacks which often when you have an awkward amount of stacksRapid movement + march is fun with the autopistolCastigator + march is fun with the braced autoguns
>>548261951>>548262395The thing about dog bleed that its detractors don't seem to understand, is the fact that theory and practice are massively divided. Dog bleed is indeed bad in theory. All of the theoretical points hold up when you test it in the psykhanium. Arguments about manually wrangling the dog are also semi-valid.However, in practice, you cannot simply deal infinite DPS and instagib everything to the point that it becomes useless. The dog might be in a different room entirely, or you send it to maul a (shot)gunner, which then bleeds all of its buddies, and even if the bleed only ticks for 1/3 of their health, you're consequently hitting better breakpoints for just killing them outright once you find the time to shoot them.But you might not find the time to shoot them because you're being choked into a corner by a massive armor blob.Additionally, the dog might bounce back and forth between the armor blob, that receives a bunch of brittleness from rumbler, flamer, flame staff, etc. making the bleed super deadly.All of this is also completely forgetting about the fact that the bleed is more powerful than usual, so getting the first bleed tick on a monster causes surprisingly good DPS. It also makes it maul targets to death slightly faster.Its usefulness is subtle and difficult to quantify, until you open up Power DI and check the damage numbers it puts out. Even if you acknowledge that a portion of that damage might be wasted, hitting breakpoints because of it is still useful.>picrelPeople don't seem to understand how cheap it is to take. Left is the cheapest possible, right is the most optimal. One might argue that taking Target Neutralized as a pathing node isn't great, but the amount of toughness regen it provides is fucking massive, toughness over time is a very powerful mechanic, and it stacks lol.
>>548262882>forgot picAlso worth mentioning: Dog bleed loses value the faster the team kills enemies, obviously. Bad auric teams simply don't kill fast enough, and it's extremely difficult to reach such DPS numbers in havoc to where it actually loses value.
>>548262986Its usefulness can also depend on the modifiers. A dog running around trying to kill enemies while they're being regenerated is a lot of wasted damage that won't be tracked.
>>548257928What people keep forgetting about GW when it comes to licensing is that they're a model company first and foremost (wasn't the original GW effectively bought out by Citadel Miniatures to use as a shop front?) and they're understandably shit-scared that if someone does something cool in game, they won't have the rights to the lucrative follow-up models and paraphernalia (see: all the Titus stuff) unless it's recognisably something they've already made and at least displayed somewhere.Besides, given that it seems fairly evident that Fantasy Beastmen don't really sell (look at how they've been treated over the last few years) then GW don't really have much of an incentive to spend the money to bring them into 40k like that. I reckon if you looked into it, you'd find that first Squat special character for Necromunda sold a crapload but the Beastman bounty hunter didn't. Really though, this sort of thing is what Forgeworld SHOULD have been for (and was, briefly) but then Heresy Autism took it over. Bleh...
>>548263124Aye. Regen modifiers are unfortunately very deceptive. Psykers can easily reach damage numbers of over 5 million if you take a little longer than usual to complete the mission because your veteran is a drooling retard.I don't even bother tracking scoreboards in havoc with regen mods. It's unfortunately worthless data when half of all cleave damage is wasted.Dog is quite good into regen btw. Just sic the dog on any human sized purple and it will die eventually, even when the crushers and bulwarks bodyblock it.
Are you ready to get sick of hearing the word "doornailed?"
>>548263268I still haven't gotten tired of hearing about the Lex.
>>548263268Mad cuz you got doornailed.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bRRl_DAtwzE>another pair of scottish voices please at least let them have 3 different ones like arbie
>>548263268DEAD AS A DOORNAIL SAH
>>548263724>2 fanatic zealots and 2 outlaws in a teamThe Glasgow experience.
>they still do this retarded cosmetic rotationlmao
I hope hive ganger update not only breaks every single mod, but changes the code base for how mods are loaded so they stay broken for monthsFuck you.Die.
Outlaw and Anarchist sound terrible so I am hoping Bounty Hunter has some good lines
so you use talent points to also mess with chems?
>>548265041You get a separate set of points to spend on the chem tree.
lol
>>548265117Jesus, how did they fuck it up?It looked fine in the promo image?
>>54826511710/10 on tertium
>>548265117Britannia...
>>548265117I actually like that people in this game all look fucked up. It tracks for M41.
>>548264075that's like 6 daggers
>>548264849On the vid I saw, Fem Bounty Hunter suffers from that weird circumstance of someone from NEAR Liverpool sounding faker when they go for a "'I grew up on Breck Road, la" tone than someone who's got no connection with the area at all. Honestly it was like listening to my mum and her sisters when they were talking shit about people acting like nob ends, but that was always exaggerating for derogatory effect.
>>548265473>HIV scum gets throwing knives>zealots get throwing knivesThat's a lot more knives than you might think.
>>548265117same energy
>*kills a trapper*>BROKER AND 'ARDLY KNEW 'ER EH
If they ever add Corsairs or just show Eldar in general I hope they make them uncanny rather than just prettyThe pretty would contrast more with the humans/ogryns all being ugly but that's just lazy
>>548265117i just woke up and can't see clearly and thought it was a penis ejaculating onto her eye
Post dudes
new class looks to be insanely overtuned and very blatantly just steals some talents from other classes while making them 5x betteri know fatshark wants to sell the DLC and it's better to make the new class OP in order to do it, but it's just shameless
>>548265803
>>548266147they know no one wants to play without it being op
[faint oinking in the distance]
>>548214403Just say you hate video games, it's okay.
Autistic science time.>IMPORTANT PREFACEI'll try to construct a reasonable, natural build for each class.I'll try not to include overly situational or temporary talents, or those that are too far of the beaten path for most to take. Think "meta".For simplicity's sake, I'll assume the 17% toughness curios do not include another +5%. Some values may be rounded.I will NOT include Second Wind (15% toughness on dodge) because its value is extremely difficult to quantify. Ganger also has Regained Posture which does the same for 10%. They're almost equivalent and thus not worth comparing.For Tis but a Scratch, I'm assuming ranged chip is extremely common and virtually always coming your way. Whether bombers/flamers apply remains to be seen.>LegendTPS = Toughness Per SecondDR = (Global) Damage ReductionTDR = Toughness Damage ReductionZealot:>125 toughness (100+25 pathing)>2.5%~7.5% TPS (Enemies Within, Enemies Without)>15% TDR (Benediction)>40% TDR (Enduring Faith)>25% TDR, 2% TPS (Blazing Piety - Stalwart)>125*1.51 = 183 toughness (3*17 curios)>~0.38 toughness damage taken per 1 point of damage>~17.4 TPSZealot shrugs ~46 DPSHive Scum:>125 toughness (75+50 pathing)>10% TDR (Gang Tough)>~20% DR (Hive City Brawler)>10% TPS (Tis but a Scratch)>125*1.51 = 183 toughness (3*17 curios)>~18 TPS>0.72 toughness damage taken per 1 point of damageBaseline Hive Scum shrugs ~25 DPSCHOOSE ONLY ONE:>25% TDR (Calling for a Time Out)>0.54 toughness damage taken per 1 point of damageShrugs ~33 DPS>5% TPS (Adrenaline Frenzy - Adrenaline Unbound)>~27 TPSShrugs ~38 DPS>15-20% TDR (Chemical Dependency + 2 support nodes)>~0.57 toughness damage taken per 1 point of damageShrugs ~32 DPS>TL;DR and verdict: Hive Scum are as tanky as Zealot, but have Confident Strike as a talent, and are fucking invulnerable while sliding.Hive scum are tankier than zealot.
friednly reminder that I buy ALL slop, all overpowered new classes and their deluxe edition + new half assed skins they release so all you faggots can NEVER get anything decent in your hands. I will start funding fatshart to make even more slop and retarded new classes just to watch you seethe
>glass cannonmy fucking sides
>>548260686tranner should hang himself
>>548247028oh thank god, i was worried it would be turbonigger bixnoodian dinduspeak, at least it's southern shitland niggardly exiles of angloland speaki might actually buy the dlc then
>>548247028>>548268484They're just bongs.
>>548268231follow up post, example with the needler>20% on dodge from a blessing>20% on melee kill from a blessing>20% on dodge talent>15% from keystone>5% from aura>5% from a talent>5% perkall adding up to a potential +90% crit chanceand you're also immune to all damage when sliding
Why on earth am I seeing so many knife zealots in havoc?
>>548268231What the fuck were they thinking?
>>548268919What level? I rarely see them in 40. Might just be retards.
>>548269000H35Ive had like four different zealots apply within the past 30 minutes and they were all running knife + matyrdom bookOne person even running knife stealth
wooooowwww
>>548268605You wouldn't even need a third of these bonuses with any rapid firing weapon. I guess the caveat is that you're not great at dealing with ogryns and monstrosities, so you're relegated to crowd control, at least until you run out of ammo.
>>548269058Weird. I don't consume jewtubers so maybe it has something to do with that.Knife isn't terrible or anything, but it certainly isn't good enough to where I would expect to see 4 of them apply to the same lobby. Or bothering with stealth (what the fuck is your role now? lol)It's worth keeping in mind that zealots are among the worst havoc players from my experience, so that tracks.
>>548269194>run out of ammoit also gives you 15% rending in a sub nodeneedler is better at dealing with big targets apparently, but magdumping dual pistols should kind of work too i guess
MAKE A NEW THREAD RIGHT KARKIN NOW
>>548269374Don't forget this stupid node. You might not even need Desperado.Also realistically speaking, running out of ammo is a lesser concern. You'll only need the invulnerability when there's a lot of specialists and elites, and guess what picrel does.
>>548269483i misread it and thought it worked like weapon specialist, nice catchmy god it's stupid
>>548267847Actually looking back, I made a mistakeRegained Posture is stamina, not toughness.Not that this actually changes much, because the retarded defensive nodes are so much stronger than most things zealot gets.
I hope hive cum gets nerfed into the dirt like Sister of the Thorn career did after a few days and causes massive melties and review bombing. It was really funny then it would be really funny now.
>>548269483This one is unclear whether it immediately adds 20% to your ammo reserve when it's empty or adds unspecified number of rounds but no higher than 20% total
>>548269137This ogryn reminds me of thsoe AI videos about a cyberpunk future. It's a bald dude in a black trench coat.
>>548269923From what I've seen in gameplay videos, it forces your ammo reserve to 20%.If you're 1 ammo below 20%, you get +1If you're 37 ammo below 20%, you get +37
>>548269923honestly fatshark should just hire kuli to do descriptions for them
>>548269923my guess is it works like this bounty hunter talent except you don't have to be totally out of ammo to proc it and it doesn't include the reload mechanic
>>548268231I thought it was fucking crazy seeing a jewtuber say you don't really need this because you already have melee immunity when sliding.
>>548269194>I guess the caveat is that you're not great at dealing with ogryns and monstrositiesHivescum get missiles which just 1 shot monstrosities.Watch thishttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/bRRl_DAtwzEAnd it shows a chaos spawn getting 1 shotted by a rocket.
>>548269058>>548269229Mr. Estrogen made a video when Bound by Doody first released saying that stealth knife zealot was the new meta
>>548261436Wait, the blue arc is an elite radar, not just a bullet hit ping?
>>548269194I've seen the needle pistol deal pretty healthy amounts of DPS to crushers and monsters. I don't know what kind of builds those players were using, whether the gun was set up correctly, and whether they correctly stacked the poison, but it seems to be stronger than bleed.Oh and it obviously stacks with bleed.Bottom right lets you HIV knife.
>>548269374I'm just not gonna tell anyone I'm making agripinaa revolver build that will crit oneshot maulers so it doesn't get nerfed before dlc drops
>>548270393You can already do that on vet, I doubt they'd care too much.
>>548266147If it was undertuned would mock fatshark as well. The game is too complex to get it just right on launch so it's better to overtune than undertune. Nerf the op shit after a few weeks. Like arbi.
i play as kruber (me) and use elf and witch as my harem and dwarf is my bro
>>548270658>The game is too complex to get it just right on launchIt's really not. You just need to hire actually competent playtesters and let it cook for long enough to develop somewhat of a meta, then adjust accordingly.And obviously hire someone in charge of balancing who actually plays the game at a relevant skill level and isn't a fucking retard.
>>548266147Don't worry they already have plans to nerf itYou will only have like 2 weeks to get all havoc penances
>>548270556there is no way you can do it on agripinaa, zarona onlyand vet doesn't get infninite ammo
I have lost all faith in the darktide teamvt3 when?
What killed the hype?
>>548272631>vt3 when?never, and even if you got it you would not like it
>>548272631It will be Overwatch 2 type of situation lmao
>>548273181vt2 already is
>>548270220>bleed + chem strikesshit is going to be insane for the first 3 months until nerfs
>>548272631We already know that there is no new games coming for a while.They'll focus on Darktide and Vermintide 2, ie. like they fucking should, especially Darktide.
>>548274009>>548274009>>548274009Come on, don't let the thread die with me boots on
I genuinely think, despite being pretty boring weapon options for the setting, that the ripping animations and audio for the cleaver and crowbar are pretty satisfying
