>What the heck is this/indie/ is the general for all indie games, such as A Hat in Time, Animal Well, Baba Is You, Balatro, Battle Brothers, Cave Story, Celeste, CrossCode, Cultist Simulator, Darkest Dungeon, Darkwood, Dead Cells, Disco Elysium, Environmental Station Alpha, FTL, Hades, Hollow Knight: Silksong, Hotline Miami, LISA, Lobotomy Corp, Loop Hero, Machinarium, Monster Train, Noita, Nuclear Throne, OFF, OneShot, Rain World, Shovel Knight, Slay the Spire, Starsector, Subnautica, Sunless Skies, The Witness, Void Stranger, etc., as well as other games that just don't fit in any other general such as Atelier, Pillars of Eternity, and Valkyria Chronicles. /jrpg/ is welcome. Idle, roguelite, shmup, 4x / RTS / city-builders, and RPGMaker games are cool too.Mobile or consoles, Flash or Unity, freeware or early access. This place is a home for the indie game community and indie and obscure games that don't have a home. So be free to talk and share all your hidden gems, forgotten games and starving devs here.>Can I talk about games that already have a general?We mostly discuss games that are not popular enough for their own threads, however, all indie games are allowed. So talk about them if you want, but don't overdo it since you already have other generals for that.>Recommendationshttps://pastebin.com/ZbG0JPSn>Booruhttps://indiegame.booru.org/>Steam Grouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/indiegamesgeneralThread Archives:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/%2Findie%2F/text/%2FIndie%2F%20/type/op/>Previous Thread>>547536993
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>>548204678I can't believe I missed a "hurr durr, not a roguelike" post. As always: The overly narrow definition of roguelikes that the genre started out as, has been phased out. Just as we don't call shooters "doom clones" any more, just as we stopped calling MOBAs "DotA Clones". The Berlin interpretation can fuck clean off, too. Here's the truth: Language works by a common understanding, not by hyper strict definitional rules. And in that sense: roguelike has simply become a term to encompass all "run based" games, where if you die you start over, likely with some amount of randomization. If it only has slight elements like that, people say "X with roguelike elements". What your picture is talking about, people now call mostly classic, or traditional roguelikes. This is also a good thing, because who wants a genre with zero innovation?>but anon the term is so broad! It could encompass!Shut the fuck up.Sometimes genres are not very descriptive and operate on "I know one when I see one" rules. The fuck's a beat 'em up? You beat up people in every game? Adventure game? Point and click? You mean like Call of Duty?I actually feel you a little bit. I was one of 5 people wanting to call DotA clones "ARTS", short for action RTS, because it combines ARPG controls with RTS gameplay and objectives (destroy enemy units and bases). But guess what? Riot was mad that people called their game "dota-clone" so riot came up with MOBA, and because League was the biggest game in the world at the time, that term stuck. And neither of us are gonna be helped by insisting on the terms and definition WE think is superiour, because they fit a narrower description of the type of game, while everyone else has an entirely different understanding. It's over for ARTS, it's over for "roguelike" to just be Berlin interpretation classic roguelikes. Every game that is technically a rogue-lite, gets called a roguelike by a majority of people. You just have to accept it.
Puzzle anons, I deserve a medal. Dev is a fuarking genius.
Ah, Earth Dancer! Your dance has brought me joy and happiness. In gratitude, allow me to bestow upon you this recipe.
What's the fastest way you guy achieve 100 million hand on Balatro? Was thinking of just going Plasma deck hoping to get lucky with kings of hearts without some replay cards and no chip cards?
>>548252106You only need a score of 20k to get the 100m required with plasma (10k x 10k is 100m) so it's not that hard.Mime with steel card is easily doable. Sock and buskin with glass cards with double pairs, 256x before other bonuses so you only need 80 multiplier or a few x multipliers to get the 100m. If you don't skip, that's very possible to achieve by ante 4.White stake obviously because higher stake is not required. Avoid skipping unless the reward is extremely good.
>>548252106Start by catching THESE hands*punches you*
>>548254990Pic>>548254370Alright, so focus on mime with steel cards or sock and buskin glass cards, I'm assuming try going to for double pair hands on both?
>>548252106Honestly just play the game. Trying to go into endless mode will get you hands that quickly go into scientific notation.The trick is xMult, lots of them. Multiplying your multiplier over and over will quickly make your score go crazy, way to do this include but aren't limited to, Steel cards, Glass cards, various jokers, the Observatory voucher, and so on.
>>548257948I forgot to mention but retriggers are always going to be a big key. Hack, Sock & Buskin, Dusk, Mime, red seals on your playing cards, things like that go a long, long way to getting insane hands.
I just had a random seed with baron, mime, blueprint, brainstorm and ghost. And I somehow managed to fuck that up at ante 16 by forgetting to reset a shuffle joker boss blind. Sucks too because I had 2 free negative tag.Seed if anyone is interested: YV9CL7MEYou can likely naninf on that one with plasma.
>>548249814I'm sorry I still play games that are like rogue and don't appreciate fags polluting the pool with their metaprogression sloppa and will fight to the death to keep the line in the sand.
>>548259360Brother, while you fight to defend that line, everyone else is 20 miles past that line having a party, dying, and then crossing that line 10% faster thanks to meta progression. Again: it's not like I don't get where you're coming from, it's not like I don't have my own "this is the better term for it why is nobody using it?" battles that I've lost. But that's just the thing: You've lost already. It's done. You're defending the fort from enemies, that are already in the fort, fucking your lords wife. The term is what it is now. And you can still play gtames that are like rogue. I do too. We just both have to accept that people call them "classic roguelikes" or "traditional roguelikes" now, instead of just "roguelike". I mean, you can refuse to accept it, but you make just as much sense as demanding people to call Istanbul Constantinople, because for you it will always be Constantinople and all these newfags with their Istanbul can fuck clean off.
>>548244758Fuck you.
>>548260398Why do you care so much then that I give up? Does it validate your own surrender?
>>548260576Because ever since I have recognized that it's a fight against windmills, I'm off the mindset to help other anons see that it's a fight against windmills, ya know? I see a fellow anon being angry at something that has already happened, that won't be undone, and that importantly: is pretty standard (Again: a bunch of genre names are so generic that they can technically encompass a wide variety of game. Heck you could call online chess a MOBA, it's multiplayer, it's online, the board is the arena for the battle that you have with pieces). So I like to put my hand on their shoulder, say: "I feel you brother, I was once in this fight too, but it's over. You don't need to be mad at this any more. There is actually no harm being done. What we like, it's still there. It just has a slightly different name than it originally had. That's not so bad". Because really what are we fighting for here? Who decided in the first place that a roguelike has to be EXACTLY like rogue, instead of having elements from rogue? Yeah that was our understanding, and to keep that understanding alive, when games that had elements but where not exactly rogue came out, people came up with rogue"lite". But guess what? Roguelite didn't stick. People still called these games roguelikes. So now that's what roguelike means. We still have our traditional roguelikes, our classic roguelikes, the original term having wider meaning now doesn't take anything away from us. Yeah, they might have introduced new coke, and new coke tastes like ass. But guess what? We still have classic coke. So what's the problem? Be mad that it says "classic" now?
>>548261161>Heck you could call online chess a MOBAthat's why when you're discussing dota you should use the proper name for the genre: ASSFAGGOTS
>>548261264And tell me anon. How hinged do you come across when you talk to a normal person in real life, they mention the word "Moba" and you yell at them: "NO IT'S ASSFAGGOTS!"? Is it un?
>>548261551i wouldn't know, talking to normal people isn't something i lower myself to
>>548261551>a normal person in real lifeYeah I agree, trap is a slur, and people I disagree with are literally fascists
>>548249784It's being held up by a handful of dedicated regular posters during certain times of the day. I used to be one of them, but lately I play less games and have less to say about them and not all of them are /indie/
Hands down my favorite feature in Tavern Keeper so far, is how you can enter this level design mode to place decorations (which have an in-game effect) and even completely remodel any asset in the game.
>>548257948>>548254370Okay I got a good run finally, I have level 6 flush and 9 kings of hearts in deck and 3 of those are clubs, what is the play here? Can flushes on hearts get me to a 100 mil or focus on playing singles or pairs?
>>548249814Glad to hear that ancient chart is still triggering you.
How does persona 5 compare to 4?
>>548250234gzI'm still on those two
Never really tried a management game, at least none on a scale this small. I really enjoy it so far. Figuring out how to increase efficiency by optimizing by a few percent here and there is a lot of fun.Currently trying to find a sweet spot of how many employees I need, so the tavern can run smoothly but still make a profit so I can afford decorating the place, it's a little quaint so far.Also I feel like I'm ripping everyone off left right and center. Selling a single drink usually breaks even with buying a whole barrel of it and a single order or two is enough to pay off an employees salary. Being a capitalist sure is fun
>>548269034Did I see this in agdg? Walls too thin. Install some textures.
>>548259027>reset a shuffle joker boss blindLiterally the freest possible boss blind, if you're willing to do a quick savescum.>>548262736>flushPic.>Can flushesNo.
>>548265113A strict improvement
>>548265113>>>/vg/persona
Tried cross blitz.started skipping dialogue before the tutorials were over.It seems like there's build variety but I don't care to discover it. too many lengthy level transition animations, loading dialogues and characters. I don't care.
>>548282503Filtered? Filtered.Another trash took itself out.
>>548282160Not reading. Answer yes or no.
Why is the first mission of Hitman a fucking défilé de mode in Paris with more NPCs than I saw in entire RPGs?
>>548288625I already told you 5 is unequivocally better all around. 4 felt like it needed a bit more time in the over, 5 is perfectly baked.
>>548293961You're feeding a troll, retard.
>>548293961>I already told youWhere? I don't see anything other than "Go ask a different general" dumbass. Are you perhaps fucking stupid or some shit?
>>548292401THAT is Viktor Novikov, head of Sanguine and ringleader for IAGO.
>>548293961You made the shitposter cry hard, lol.
>>548296939His head is now staring at his own ass, and he's resting in the Seine river.An accident.
>>548297230Hidalgo would be proud.
>>548297485She'll have to fish him out.
Are there any Sultan gamers in this general?
>>548297837Hey that got an award in the recent indie live expo.
nyooom
bump
>>548244758Leaf love.
Pragmata bump.I can't wait to meet my future daughteru.
>>548292401Civ npc in hitman games tend to be absolutely braindead and act more like animated mannequin unless they are scripted, its how they can handle having a ton of them without eating a ton of ram or making the engine shit itself. I know its an older title, but I remember in Blood Money, in the Heaven and Hell level, almost all the npcs on the dance floor are so braindead you can gun the entire place down and they would barely react. While the new games work on an updated version of the Glacier engine, I hardly believe they finicked that much with the core that define npc behaviors.
I have never liked Virus.
Eat shit, monkeys.
Being abandoned by your cat surely is a tragic event
>>548314304She sounds CUTE.>>548314351Yeah, but STILL. I want fair difficulty, not being dropped at a super mundane event with just a gunne, my flaccid dick, and vague directions.>need lockpicks to do anything at all>can't get lockpick until Dathmoor
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1149460/view/627817205072922675https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIYx8FltCGsHype.>>548320834>She sounds CUTE.And funny. Imagine carrying your daughter all day while she hacks robots and you shoot them.
>>548322048
holy shit, i knew he sounded familiar!it's adam jensen.
>>548320834Think of a hitman game less as a stealth game and more as a puzzle game, where the objective is the target, figuring how you go at it is the main attraction. Once you get that, the series really start to shine and every level turn into a playground, you arent supposed to find every possible way to complete the objectives in a single playthrought, and the items you unlock only provide different opportunities, so to speak.
>>548323696his voice acting is really carrying a lot of the game, like it did in battletech
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1947910/OPUS_Prism_Peak/I too want to travel with a loli that has lost her memories and only has me.
ooooh there's nothing to play...everything is getting postponed to 2026...i'll be forced to replay Sk*rim again...
It is time for revolution
Continuing Sixy-Four...Reworking the layout helped for a short while.
>>548328898Wall breach phase, 3/3 success
>>548331417City controlled
>>548332412Palace stormed
>>548333380Ring resisted
>>548334110Guards killed
>>548334910It`s over
gachas won
>>548323723Hitman Bloody was better for that. The main impression I get from Hitman WoA is that I'm locked out of all the fun stuff.
>>548334910Wait so the Sultan essentially recognize your challenge and accepts to not use his OP ring to oneshot you out of... curiosity? Respect?
>>548348614He tries to kill you with the ring but you can resist with extremely high magic stat
>>548350179So he really has no redeeming feature, huh?
Not bad for a first try.
>>548282503>started skipping dialogue before the tutorials were over.The story dialogue is all skippable and doesn't really matter. The tutorials are all critically important and have less text than a single modern yugioh card. How does someone pick up a card game if they're terrified of reading short bits of text?>too many lengthy level transition animations, loading dialogues and characters.yeah little bro you clicked the story mode. click the roguelike mode button if you don't want any of that shit. what were you expecting a story mode to have if it wasn't story and characters?
Enjoying Fear & Hunger still, but I feel like I've got two major things to try before I run into that "lol use the wiki to solve this impossible noita tier puzzle to progress" zone.
Two years since I've played Terra Invicta and the only thing I've noticed is that the US doesn't instantly explode anymore and the AI cheats more randomly.
Leaf is so based
I fucking hate Bangkok's mission in Hitman so much. >20 minutes running around, no opportunity>5 minutes dredging through the level -1, find ALL the disguises>pick up security out of habit>security can't do anything: can't poison Cross' cake, can't blend in the rooms
The more I play Cross Blitz, the more I'm starting to get it. The learning curve has been rough but I feel like I'm actually in control of what I'm doing now, and it's hype to have another ccg game where I'm building strong synergies without feeling like the game is ruined now that I know how to pull some cool shit off. Love the archer builds.
>>548348278Can't deny it, it is one of the things that annoyed me with it
>>548360970At least I don't get too penalized for leaving traces behind me, "just" lower score, so I can go loud in a mission if I don't like it. But still, the first few times you play a map, it's tough.
>>548359652I felt like Archers were too fragile and then I unlocked their bow relic. The one thing that pisses me off about the game is meta progression, it's not really a hard game but using someone I don't have the unlocks for is a pain in the ass.
>>548362673Yeah I feel like it would have just been a better game with more of the stuff unlocked at the start. It is a massive game so I think the idea is that they don't want you overwhelming yourself, but it means early runs just feel kind of shallow. Why am I being offered the same couple relics over and over when there's way over 100 in the game? Just so I don't have to read as many early on? Now that my relics list is long enough to actually use the scroll bar it feels a lot better to play. I don't see the same ones two or three times a run anymore, and I'm getting cooler synergies and actually understanding what decks might want each thing. I think this is my favorite one so far, I didn't get the point of death dice because it made things too chaotic in my first run, but now that I have a bunch of synergies that are like "get bonus effects for every death effect" it makes them very strong and I'm actually happy enough to see them that I don't want them sealed anymore.
Are DLCs for pic related worth getting?Currently on sale and liked the base game well enough, but sounds like it doesn't really add that much if you experienced most of what the base game had to offer
These fuckers are ugly in HD.
>>548367259Thank you for the nightmare. What even are these, I remember them being called Mamluks in the French translation.
>>548367591Berserker Splitters. And I dare say the Rewind team did a pretty good job giving them a makeover, had to break out an emulator to compare.
>>548362673>>548363418Agreed it's a lot of meta unlocks. I've played enough Cross Blitz to realize what the noob traps are though so I'll share my tips on making the unlocks feel like they're barely in the way:1. Currency is universal, not per character. It takes 2~ runs to unlock and get someone to 99% power. So stick to upgraded characters, don't play someone you just unlocked and didn't upgrade. You should probably upgrade the starter pirate deck first because it's simple, fast, and strong which makes it perfect for quickly unlocking more stuff without needing to learn your own deck as you play.2. Focus on getting characters to 99% full power. That means buying their relics, cards, and then buying some HP until you can buy their first Ultimate card. Relics and Ultimate 1 is top priority.3. Do NOT buy their 2nd Ultimate cards early. It's as expensive as a character unlock and it's like 50/50 on whether it's a sidegrade or a gimmick option. They add tons of replay value but are not needed early on.4. Do NOT max the health on anyone early. It doesn't make a big difference, since 95% of the time if you're winning you take very little damage.5. Do your bounties (blue note spots then red note battles) every single run. You have 3 per boss and the sooner you unlock more relics/trinkets, the sooner you get the variety that makes the game shine imo. If you already did all 3 in a zone it's a pure cash for faster meta progression. You don't even need to win the run for unlocks to count.6. Don't forget to try The Hollows daily/weekly runs. Probably way before you buy anyone's 2nd Ult or max HP. It has it's own currency and unlocks. The way the game scores you is more fun in Hollows than in normal runs imo. If you wait too long you'll realize you have everything unlocked but the Hollows stuff, and it'll suck to grind it out when you could have been doing a Hollows run a day and been almost finished already.
>>548369027Oh shit, yeah, these aren't TS2's mamluks, these are TS3's.Sorry, I have like several hundred hours in TS2, and like only 50 in Future Perfect.
>>548369657The whole gang got a visual upgrade. TS2 splitter, well there wasn't really a whole lot to do for him, but the TS1 splitters are fucking horrifying. If I had played 1 as a kid, they probably would've given me nightmares.Neat to see that the 'Timesplitters are bioengineered humans' plotline wasn't just from FP though, even though TS1 didn't have a plot at all.
>>548370817What the fuck???
>>548372742Yeeeeeah that was my exact reaction. From the wiki>It appears that this TimeSplitter is a younger, more recently formed 'Splitter. One can see that there are pieces of a dismembered human stuck to this 'Splitter, suggesting it formed inside of a living human host before growing to its full size, shredding and killing its host in the process.And I thought the Hybrid Mutants from FP were fucked all the way up.
>>548373834Good lord. Splitters are like Xenomorphs or Wasps.Y'know, same as you, I'm glad I started with Timesplitters 2. As if the dam level wasn't nightmarish enough already with these monsters...
>>548365721Mostly the new level types are the big change...I think the DLC is overpriced for what it is, but if you got to a point where you're thinking "I want to keep playing the game but it would be fun to have some totally new levels", they might be worth buying. Most people enjoy the Frogs at least.
>>548357565I think almost everyone hates Bangkok and the only reason it's not the most hated is because Colorado exists.I played literally thousands of hours of the WoA trilogy but I think I'm kinda done with it now...I could maybe go back and play the H3 levels again, and Hokkaido will always be great, but I really just played everything to death.
>>548375958I dread the moment I'll try Colorado. My modus operanti is to go tourist>civilian servant>security>bodyguard, but new Hitman made a fine job of complicating things: sometimes a "lowly" cook or bartender can avoid suspicion and get unique opportunity, while bodyguards can walk without problem around the place but will have to avoid other bodyguards.
>>548317185Did you already spend the other ways to clear that?
Done with Bangkok.
...urgh.
Man, Void War is actually really good. I can't believe I'm enjoying playing FTL again. It seems like the designers accurately identified everything that sucked about the game they ripped off and made an objectively superior version. I didn't even know I wanted this.
I need help.I killed the two Jews, the Ir*sh, and the bitch, and I need the Irish's face to open up a gate in the basement, and I can't find the Jew's 3D printer to make a mask.
>>548382527>>548383030>>548387585I had fun with hitman, but I wasn't a fan of the selling episodes individually shit. In the end what I did was just endlessly grind out Paris and got really good at it, and never bought or bothered with the other missions.
FREE PALESTINE!!!!
>>548387997For me, the mission I played the most was the Italian one, I really liked it, but I watched Utopia so I'm curious as to what the story is.Also I'm pissed that I got new Hitman 1, then I had to buy World of Assassination, and I still get ingame ads for the current DLC.
>spot target through window>take out pistolI get that the real Hitman way is the piano wire, but I love just putting a cap in someone's head.
I think I stopped playing at Colorado because I don't remember ever visiting Hokkaido.
Ha, now I remember why I never tried Hokkaido.>only one spawn>no items at all, not even ICA coins>entire medical complex is very advanced so I literally can't break in doors I'm not supposed toI'm at the devs' mercy here.
>page 9
>>548377902yeah i got 7 cards
>>548401312Oh you did the very sus thing then.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/diffusionHL1 mod is out
>>548407494stable?
>>548387585Its on the second floor in a room full of servers iirc
>>548390606It isnt as bad as it seem, the only annoying part is getting the girl because there is very few ways to get to her.
Sultan`s Game might be the first good Chinese game ever made
Slaves shouldn`t be able to leave you after you rape them
>>548423536It is weird. And since she's not noble she's not showing up in the palace anyway so she can't use those opposition points against you.
Diana bump.
AIslossha
I'm coping hard that https://store.steampowered.com/app/3656660/Deep_Space_Exploitation/ will get a discount in winter sale. a month after release.
>>548432275You ain't got 9 bucks??!?
>>548413547I cheated and looked for a guide. Thanks anyway.>>548414571It is intimidating though.>>548430185cute>>548431912Trepang?
>>548434062I do but I'm poor. and my regional price is higher because steam are kikes.
>>548435165Your regional prices must be higher so my regional prices (Brazil) can be lower
any other good story game this year? i wanna feel. finished dispatch and thinking of tackling rue valley
>>548437820of the devil
Soon
Found anything interesting on sale?
>>548441645I'd whip her.
>>548447952Cross Blitz is 35% off and it ends in 20 hours. Pretty great card game with a roguelike and a set of campaign modes.
When everyone has instakill bricks, the most dangerous weapon is yourself.
>>548448092I'll wait. It's gonna be 100% off in a few days on whatever repack website.
>>548448867No shot, it isn't multiplayer slop so it has no need to beg for a big playerbase. If you're not the guy looking for sales just pirate it.
>>548448867It was like 5 days ago.
>>548449329I didn't find it when I googl'd it a few minutes ago :-/
>>548449681its on IGG. I assume it must be elsewhere if you don't trust them for some reason.
>>548449767good manthanks for spoonfeeding me
>>548437820Sultan`s Game has a good story
>>548387997>>548388220I never played anything past absolution, the whole thing about selling episodes separatedely, dlc or whatever made me dismiss the franchise as whole and I never looked back.
>>548451502Fair and valid, though I will say I did enjoy my time with that one mission, and from what I've seen of others playing the game I wish I'd had Sapienza and Hokkaido too along with Paris.
I think it's wiki/ walkthrough time for Fear & Hunger. Sad. I feel like they could have made shit just a little more straightforward. >Table with gods: you are allowed to ask 3 questions/ topics.>give them 3 reasonable in game topics like the names of the gods frequently mentioned throughout the game.>Gods: WTF are you talking about?>Door in the ancient city says produce a crown>find a crown and bring it back>Door: ermmmm not that crown, another one!>Other door says gibberish>Some weird Resident Evil chess puzzle you're not allowed to participate in cuz you're "not strong enough">Tree thicket maze has 0 paths that take you anywhere
