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>>548236719

>New to Mahjong? Play here (tutorial included):
https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com

>Interested in this general or in Mahjong? READ THIS:
https://repo.riichi.moe

>Watch M-League (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday 19:00 JST):
https://abema.tv/now-on-air/mahjong

>/mjg/ booru:
https://mjgbooru.com/

>basic sanma tourney
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18gwxq94YjDh7a7dSl4GvSC7xtmYX-3lPFkaX5bm7rW8/edit?usp=sharing
>registration
https://forms.gle/DESgg28n3HsjVZYe6
>sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/118JEPLEAN-_WKBOVXaAyWn0uWTt5S-Fa3UNCC9X0NHw/edit?usp=sharing
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sex with jks
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Ako is 2nd for me
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I'm going to feed Wanjirou grapes
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people on tenhou play too quickly i need my 5+20 tips
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poko /doko/lympics on the telli
https://www.twitch.tv/roleplayto
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>>548312000
Genuine question: why are you posting this here when it has NOTHING to do with mahjong? Your faggot clique on /doko/ doesn't matter here.
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I care
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>>548312160
it's for me, I asked, I cared
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>>548312160
shut up tranny
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When's the next mjg meetup? I'm tired of playing with my club
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>>548312160
Many other posts also don't have anything to do with mahjong. You don't call those out because you're a pussy.
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Ace Attorney Investigations Collection
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>>548312368
>I should be able to derail the thread with off-topic posts because other people do it as well.
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>>548312491
not a single mahjong related post so far, why are you here
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>>548312491
and yet you say nothing about them
Sounds like you've just got an axe to grind with /doko/
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>>548312491
Why are you posting off-topic instead of posting mahjong related things?
No, complaining isn't mahjong related.
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/jong/ is the home of mahjong and carries this community.
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>>548311756
>sucky
shiroko-7.png
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>>548312707
didn't read lol
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>>548312816
You did and you're bad at lying
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I like to pluck my armpit hairs out when im bored, the pain is kinda comfortable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1r8yedANIU
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>>548312613
there are multiple mahjong posts in this thread already, /doko/trannies can't read
>>548312641
>you need to call out EVERY off topic post in this thread
why?
>you're out to get us!
you guys have your own general, keep it in there.
>>548312682
>you're not allowed to say something about off topic posts because you just can't
lmao I'm queueing right now
>>548313114
kill yourself
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but mahjong books are so boring... any progress on the mahjong VN?
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riichi book 1 makes me feel retarded (is retarded)
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>>548313403
just ask him yourself
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I'm going to ranked
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I hate mahjong
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Dokokeks, this is your home, we are brothers.
You'll always be welcome, loved and cared about.
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>>548313559
Don't do it
This time of day it's nothing but bots

Stay here and argue instead.
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>>548313764
this but unironically
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>>548313764
This. A real man posts about whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
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>>548313764
NOOOOO SET ME FREE, I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK HERE.
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'roko
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I hate Uma musume and Blue archive
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>Pedo archive
>Japanese MLP
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Newer player here. How do I queue up for friendlies in MS? Do I need room keys? Nearly my friends cut me off after I had a drunken rampage at a wedding and none of them play Mahjong anyway.
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>>548314093
>>548314218
Based
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BA characters in mahjong soul are a separate matter from blue archive. Aruposting to say something retarded doesn't make you a baggot.
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>>548314248
Pretty self explanatory if you click the friendly match tab, either join a room through the code or make one.
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>>548312354
I think there's one in Aus right now
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>>548314218
>>Pedo Archive
No need to compliment the kusoge...
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>>548314373
That's right, slave. Give me your upvote.
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Is incorrectly scoring your hand as the yasume when it was the takame a chombo?
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>>548314771
Not a chombo but you aren't allowed to do it
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>>548314749
Gave you 4chan gold award good sir, you win the Internetz today
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Everyone is welcome here except for rc players
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>>548315091
No he didn't.
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>>548315165
And blacks
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>>548315386
hanner would say this
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>>548314771
No, chombos are for more serious mistakes than that.
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>>548314771
No it's just you being retarded
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Chombo should require intent
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Iishoku doujin
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>score my hands retardedly, on purpose
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daisangen is just sanshoku if you think about it
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>>548316290
I guess sandoukou not really sanshoku
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>>548311891
>Idolmaster doujin with great art
>Piss Tag
How does this always happen
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>steve talking about christmas in japanese every time a game starts
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Do you consider the mjs win streak title impressive?
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>>548314771
Pro tests ask scoring questions for this specific reason. Here's Jenn's presentation on the JPML test if you were interested (timestamp is the start of the scoring section) https://youtu.be/uLgfOLCIQTA&t=1735
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>>548316706
No, because you need to play sanma to get it. I respect you less if you touch that "game mode"
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If you're half decent youll get winning streak in gold on the way to jade the first time
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>>548316706
Not really, it's like the baby version of "The Journey" and is probably the most common achievement title in the game.
If they had Shrine Guest it would be a different story
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>>548316998
It's not even about being decent it's just getting lucky, you are going to get those mandatory loss matches
Crow doesn't have the winning streak title for example
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>>548316557
Her max login voiceline is mega cute
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I met a man who said to me, "Pon." And hereafter I was never the same.

Majsoul Friends Room 52830(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=52830
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alright i'm tired of going for tanpin as a adeptsperm

are iipeikou, san shoku, and honitsu good to build/look out for? they seem ok
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>>548316783
I don't really respect anyone playing mahjong. And I think mahjong elitists in particular are worth around the same as cockroaches.
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>>548317761
yeah
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>>548317761
>iipeikou
no
>ssk
good to look out for
>honitsu
good to force an open hand with
read rb1
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>>548317761
Honitsu mostly, iipeiko and sanshiki are more of a coincidence. It's good to keep them in mind, but for example I wouldn't push sanshiki too hard if the value isn't there.
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>>548316706
I respect NO ONE but gohan blanco
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>>548317761
read a book, please, I beg you
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>>548318092
i was told to not read a book by a couple saints until i'm expert 3 since it's "a waste of time"
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>>548318092
don't listen to anon, you can get to master easily with just 5 blocks
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>>548318258
well I mean I didn't read any until jade but it doesn't hurt
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>>548317573
3/4
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>>548318258
Those are crab bucket saints.
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i'm kekxpert and i know tanpin and yakuhai
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>>548318309
NOT MAHJONG FUCK OFF I'm joking
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>>548318371
>>548317573
Started
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>>548318475
HOW ABOUT YOU FUCK ME IN A MAHJONG GAME INSTEAD?
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>>548318258
RB1 is a book specifically written for beginners, don't listen to people telling you not to read the book for beginners.
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>went from maka D to C+
lol
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>>548317761
Going for iipeikou and sanshoku too often will give you brainrot, you'll start seeing them in places where you have barely any chance of getting them and lose out. If you can go for them without any loss in efficiency then go for it, but don't give up a solid pinfu for a less efficient hand just because you can maybe snag an extra han off a relatively slow and hard to get yaku.
Honitsu can be good if you really need to brute force an open hand, but it's much slower than tanyao and it's very easy for your opponents to read. Again, take it if you can go for it without any loss of efficiency, just be aware that the rate at which you draw useful tiles will be about 2/3 less.
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>>548313114
You should pluck an armpit hair whenever you make a misplay.
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Don't queue ranked if you care about your ELO, I just logged in
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thank you for the advice, everyone. decided to start with RB1's Ch 3.
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Queuing
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I wish we could go back to elo, ranked sorted by precious rocks is gay
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Do I have more aura if I reach master without reading any books?
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No master is the new bronze room
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>>548319521
ron2, tenhou, segamj, and mjfc all have elo
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>>548317761
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>>548319737
yeah
never read books
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>>548319737
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>>548319737
blackpill: people barely care about where you are, and no one cares at all about what you've done to get there
this goes for all facets of life
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doko
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>>548320202
my ex girlfriend thought it was hot that I had a toned body by doing sports instead of going to the gym
I didn't tell her I lifted 5 times a week at that point
I'm not sure why, but some people find effort repulsive.
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>>548319907
thank you very much
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Most mahjong books are pretty shit but RB1 is good.
You have to remember that pros write these as a source of supplemental income, it's why we get shit like the Shibukawa chinitsu practice book.
Sonoda's "how to get digitally lucky" seems more like a mentaru book 1 though, anyone buy it yet?
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>>548317573
gg
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>>548317573
gg
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>>548317573
Back to 2/4

Dama chiitoi has been recorded and will be used against you in a court of law.
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Based
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>>548321410
You are such a useless person.
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>>548321331
Started again
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>>548320356
It's usually women that find effort repulsive, and that's the case because they are retarded.
I wish I was wrong.
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Great, now we've got a /r9k/tard replying to himself
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ron
chiitoi nomi
nisenyonhyaku
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>>548321996
Whiteknighting hypothetical women won't get you laid, nigger.
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>>548322121
and pretending to be a failed normalfag won't win you any friends here
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>>548322121
>eeerm, if you don't like me crying about chicks in mahjong general, you're le heckin white knight
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>>548322275
nobody was crying except you
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I followed RB1 to the letter insta riichi and all and made it thru Gold in 140 hanchan
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>>548322275
I'll keep doing it anyway, in fact I'll start enjoying the process, knowing it makes you "people" annoyed.
Checkmate.
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I'm a rare gifted kid burnout recluse failed normalfag who only plays mahjong now because all other games are boring. You wouldn't get it.
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I read chapter 1 of rb1 and installed mahjong soul
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>>548322405
Cope and seethe
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>>548322550
didn't happen
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poker "players" should be burned alive
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Fucking bravo, eurokeks
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He just hates blacks so much he doesn't even believe that any of them could be good people, whoa.
How did Yostar get away with this?
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>>548322550
You did not, chapter 1 is exclusively dated about setting up tenhou, everyone skips it.
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Go away bravokeks.
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i figured out how to download the mahjong soul emotes off of the repo am i doing this right?
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>>548322774
Blacks and wamen.
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I don't hate women but I do hate fujitakana, though.
Ugly pink bitch. Hope her producers beat her after the shows.
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why did a bunch of people pretend to be me when i talked about my ex? i have a new gf and she's lovely. fuck off incels
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>>548322774
Sir, she not black, Sara brave indian women don't mistake it!
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>>548322835
no you're supposed to extract them from the game yourself by screenshotting each one individually
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>>548322993
Like this?
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>>548322945
i'm not reading this shit
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>>548322929
It's everyone's moral duty to punch PINKS
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>>548323156
in the womb!
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>>548323115
Yes, good job. Now just a couple thousand or so more to go
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Pinks are for impregnation
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>>548323325
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>>548323325
this is gross
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>>548323325
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>>548323485
Interesting way to come out as a homosexual
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>>548323485
if that's gross then i'm fucking gross
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>anon (idiot) makes a politically problematic post or off-topic post
>anon (retarded) butts in and complains
>this only fuels the fire of online arguing for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and derails the thread
>idiot keeps trolling, retard doesn't understand why all of this is happening to him
>anon (me) metaposts about the situation
>someone posts sexually provoking nodokers
>everyone forgets what was happening and we are all back to loving eachothers
>faggot shows up to manifest disapproval of the new situation
>everyone gangs up on him (we love faggots here, so it's only fair)
>repeat ad nauseam
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Who the fuck is Miya Nagasaki?
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>>548323605
no it's not
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>>548323665
I read your post
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>>548323665
shaddup fatso
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>>548322774
What did she do to him anyway?
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>>548323967
Didn't go out with him
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>>548323967
She was born as an underaged indian woman in his proximity.
It's an extremely relatable type of hate if you think about it.
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>>548323967
she sharted mid-hanchan. stinky!
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>>548322956
Isn't Sara a kike name?
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>Hover over Jade room
>Feel the killing intent
>Log off
>play something else

Seeing as I dodged that 4th, I'm chalking that up as a +230 day
Another successful day of mahjong
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>>548324878
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>>548317573
ggs good mahjonging all around
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>>548317573
Back to 3/4

Getting a drink also. So it's gonna be a minute.
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a sad state of affairs
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>>548325432
Harunas is bigger
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>>548325432
drawing swimsuits is difficult please understand
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Is FFXIV the only mahjong client with a chat?
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>>548317573
>>548325419
Started again
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>>548325828
ron2
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>>548325828
Majsoul has a chat too, but you gotta pay for it first. Protector of the cat kingdom or whatever's the last whale tier unlocks it
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>>548325828
You don't want a chat for your mahjong client
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I'm just a bill, yes, I'm only a bill
And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill
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>>548324997
Sarah was the wife of Abraham in the OT. kikes didn't exist back then, jews in general didn't exist yet either (the nation of judah didn't come for a couple centuries or more), even the hebrew language didn't exist; they probably spoke Sumerian, as he likely lived in Sumeria.
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>>548325828
tenhou has chat on the tournament lobbies
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The Nodokannons are too big honestly
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>>548317573
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>548317573
Bruh
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IRC is now using the codeword "mailed" for "mention me in the discord"
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>>548325828
Is it in-game? Mahjong Soul, Tenhou, and a handful of others have them in tournament lobbies.
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>>548317573
MY FIRST YAKUMAN NYAHAHAHAH
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yuzu
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My first yakuman was a double yakuman
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>>548327740
yuzu yuzu
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>>548327808
no it wasn't
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I hate it when the stupid snake says "かな~”
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>>548327882
Yes it was
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>>548327436
>>548327571
>>548327512

what did he get?
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>>548327740
>>548327860
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>>548328117
Big dragons. With a concealed triplet.
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You mean daisangen with an ankou?
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>>548328117
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>>548328310
No he doesn't.
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>>548328310
No.
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>>548328260
>>548328398

nice
very nice
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>>548328398
>>548327571
good job, nyagger
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>>548328430
>>548328403
Hmm... I think he does
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>>548328630
>I think
no you don't
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>>548325432
I used to dislike this butt shape, but it has grown on me.
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>>548328707
>i think
i cares
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My first yakuman was a regular kokushi, and I was so happy about it that it made me keep play mahjong and make OCs, and eventually join my first league and rank up a whole tier.
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>>548329061
I believe you.
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>>548328398
>blue dragon
THEY MADE A FORTH DRAGON?
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>>548329149
I lied.
This is but one of many tricks in the sleeve of the average Umineko reader.
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>>548329251
Didn't you read the patch notes?
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I'm Saint, and I think I've only ever got two yakumen in my entire career.
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>>548329251
You're just colourblind. That's green.
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I only play asura and memesura to fish for yakumen whenever I have to play mahjong.
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Kek.
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>>548325432
>地味な女
I will now play your character.
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four of my six yakuman were in >sanma, one was a double. adeptchad btw.
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>Mangan at draw while everyone else hit tenpai
That's better than a yakuman in my book.
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>>548329251
>G
>blue
get your eyes checked anonchama, that's green
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>>548329520
no
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I am taking a 15minute walk, there better be a cozy koko waiting for me once I am back
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I'm in heaven, I'll show you heaven
It's so much heaven

Let's make a move
Let's leave this world behind
I know you approve by the look in your eyes
I'm in heaven, I'll show you heaven
So much heaven
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Now that was a clown hanchan.
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>>548330062
careful out there anon, its snowing
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I need to shave my ass, Wiping feels like trying to get peanut butter out of a shag carpet
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>>548330763
Invest in a bidet
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>>548330763
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>>548330763
You should understand what that would result in once hairs start poking out again
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>>548330763
>shave my ass
don't do this
NEVER FUCKING DO THIS
don't tell me i didn't warn you
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>>548325432
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Would you chii this if
>shimocha has ragequit and disconnected (like here)
>shimocha is still playing normally

Kami called chun just now.
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>>548330062
I need to eat dinner first before making a koko. I'll make one 15 minutes from now
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>>548331227
yeah why the fuck not
get your sandshaker babe
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>>548331227
yes, and discard 1m
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I goon
then I jong
then I goon again!
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I say bing. Then goon.
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>>548331454
If you played riichi city you could do both simultaneously
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>>548331227
Yes because the points are close for south 3 and kami's hand looks fast
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>>548317573
ggs
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>>548317573
Good game. Got me all sleepy.
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>>548311756
why do they all have mosquito bites
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>>548317573
gg
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>>548332563
it isn't possible to depict shiny, pink, and smooth skin in cel shading in any other way
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>>548331351
where is my room
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>>548332926
you're in one
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>>548332968
I'm homeless
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saa wasuremashou
sono mirai ga
mata chirubarete yuku nante
nama murui kaze toguro wo maitara
sorega tabun
aizu
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>>548330763
Never shave your anus, only trim the hairs to be shorter.
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You now remember Baccano!
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>>548333408
actually I dont, thats how mid it was
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>>548333408
DRRR!! was better
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Is there a list of /mjg/ recommended anime and movies I can watch whenever I'm bored?
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>>548333790
no
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>>548333790
Symphogear
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>>548333790
No, you've already watched them all.
If you want I can give you a list of slop from netflix that is a mix of korean and western animated shows.
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>>548331351
>>548332926

Now

Majsoul Friends Room 24474(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=24474
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>>548333790
There should be a poll for favorite movies, TO chop chop get to it.
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>>548333949
I fucking hate you I literally just got into a ranked game
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>>548333936
I'll take it.
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>>548333959
These all suck though, lain, sonny boy, come on now...
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>>548333985
Dinner took longer than expected. Sorry

>>548333949
2/4
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>>548334142
Post anime list
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>>548333959
>These anime
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>>548331374
>>548331430
>>548332183
I just chii'd here (and 3m sakigiri from the inside with enough blocks), just rush this down and go S4 with a decent lead and not let kami win his chun whatever+keep the renchan train going
Not sure why Mortal hates the chii this much. Sure a 3900 ron on shimo isn't killing them, but I'd rather just take this than try to get closed mangan
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>>548332639
>shiny, pink, and smooth skin
literally nobody has this
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>>548333959
>sonny boy
why does /mjg/ enjoy kino?
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>>548333959
>No Dr. Stone
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/3855540/BLACK_SOULS_II/
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>>548334423
>Dr.Reddit
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>>548334423
Too kino for this general
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>>548334468
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>>548334423
>Kusosuba
>Shitty boy
>No Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
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the invention of lists has been a disaster for the human race
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>>548334237
Do you want me to list every anime i've watched?
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>>548333949
3/4
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>>548333959
only watched around 23, maybe 24 but I hated Keion so I'm not including that one
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JOIN THE ROOM
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>>548333994
>Blood of Zeus
>Love, Death & Robots
>Arcane
>Secret Level
>My Daemon
>Lost in Starlight
>Wakfu
>The Cuphead Show!
Also japnetflix shit:
>Knights of Sidonia
>BLAME!
>Cyberpunk Edgerunners

And if you want to watch absolute trash and the raping of franchises once you are done, with terrible writing but cool animations:
>Devil May Cry
>Castlevania
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>>548335230
Which of these can be used as league teams next year?
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anon join the room im using the haruna swimsuit outfit and i dont use it often
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I'm at work and I have that outfit
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>>548333790
Essential /mjg/core anime
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>>548333949
Full and started
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>>548335318
Wakfu, perchance.
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>>548335230
Castlevania wasn't toooooooooo bad...
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>>548335879
I think NTR is fine, so I didn't really mind what they did to it. But it was terrible.
At least the animation is really good.
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>>548335879
Fuck you.
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>>548335879
I liked the first 2 seasons but s3 sucked so I stopped watching
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>>548333790
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what your yaku lilbro
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>>548337612
>Tylor
holy based
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>>548337612
damn those suck
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>>548338007
Agreed
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Is Revue Starlight worth watching? Is it mahjong adjacent?
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Finished RB1 but I'm Novice 2
Suji defense doesn't seem to be working here
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I'm just gonna gi watch vintage Frieren (Record of Lodoss War)
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>>548338248
you dont need defense in bronze or silver and maybe gold, just play efficient and you will finish your hands while they chill in isshanten
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>>548338101
keep sucking his dick, faggot
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>>548337612
>Ah My Goddess
I too, love ntr.
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>start playing menzenchin
>almost derank to M1
Nyagging is the only way for me, tanyao dora dora for life
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>>548338248
Suji isn't 100% effective, it's just the next best thing after genbutsu. It simply will deal in sometimes and there's not much you can do about it if it's your best tile. Also, suji is only useful against opponents who know to aim for ryanmen tenpai, and most bronze room players do not know that.
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>>548338362
this isn't even remotely true
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>>548338908
it absolutely is
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>>548338984
No it's not, unless they rangeban mortalbot smurf accounts (never)
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>>548339138
I did smurf myself and with a steady A to A+ score I got to E1 extremely fast, gold took considerably longer but it was just skill issue on my part
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>>548338215
It's going to be when I make team nana the daiba nana team.
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>>548338984
you need defense in any game of mahjong. plain and simple.
being le efficient won't magically outpace everyone else (especially post bronze where everyone has taken the requisite 10 minutes to watch a "how to efficiency' video on youtube)
bronze is full of shitters, sure, but generalizing about silver is ignorant. its the vast majority of players with a wide variety of skill. gold is just silver players who got luckier or played for longer, that's all the higher rooms are; they're a minute portion of the playerbase.
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>>548339874
gold room has more player than silver, considerably so
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>>548339874
you can definitely just zentsuppa through silver
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>>548338215
Revue is hard /mjg/ core
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>>548339962
96% of players can play silver room, 22% can play gold
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>>548340302
if you think really hard you might be able to find the cause of this stark distribution. I believe in you
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I only managed to escape silver rooms because I learned to dama and fold like a degenerate
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This random video I've found today, by a random chinese girl, is hard /mjg/ core.
https://youtu.be/MkApufwDi0w
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>>548340460
because of uma. more people lose than win.
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Telling noobs not to worry about defense is counter-productive regardless of whether or not it's possible to rank up without it. They'll reach gold eventually, and if they haven't been practicing defense then sealclubbing m1 loopers will just turn them into e1 loopers.
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>>548340302
perhaps we have been clowning on m1 loopers too much if they are in the top 5% of players...
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>>548340690
Nice try, m1 looperkek.
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>>548340620
>gacha life
are you 14?
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>>548340690
No can do, we all larp as S2 at a minimum in this thread and that means top 5% is still dogshit somehow.
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>>548340780
I don't even know what that is, but if she's 14 that explains everything.
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As /mjg/gers, it is our solemn duty to sabotage all adeptchads trying to escape silver room. This is the only way that the fun culture of our friendlies, tournies, and league may survive.
Whenever possible, shame anons for using MAKA to analyze their games, and make snide remarks about RB1 and its author. Encourage constant pushtarding and the sancity of "SOUL".
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>>548341042
But pushtarding is what makes them win, and I want them to foldcuck so I can play?
I'm tired of retards winning...
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>>548341042
>sabotage adeptchads by giving them good advice
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>>548337612
i clogged the tylor...
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>>548341042
if you read mahjong books your play will get worse, you will lose individuality and your ability to form your own conclusions based on the bakyou and instead rely on cold statistics, which makes you easier to read.
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TO starting the rigging early it seems.
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>>548338363
sybau
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>>548341532
This is true. You can find proof of it in Akagi and Tohai. Relying on "rules" only makes you an easy target. All mahjong advice is inherently harmful, other than what your heart says.
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Without love, the true bakyou cant be seen
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>>548333949
gg
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>>548333949
ggs
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>>548333949
ggs

mfw only 1 person was in tenpai s4 game 2
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>>548333949
ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya, ponya, chinya,
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>>548338215
We love Revue Starlight
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>>548333949
roundhouse kick nyaggers into the concrete. eat nyaggers.throw nyaggers into active volcanos.
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>>548342187
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>>548342313
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Where'd everyone go
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intentionally giving bad advice is +EV
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I haven't read RB1 and I'm Expert.
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>>548346429
wow this has never been done before
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>>548346429
Holy fucking based. We should all strive to be like you.
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most of the principles in RB1 are things you should be able to realize on your own just by thinking about the game
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I've never touched a mahjong tile irl and I'm master
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I'm stable throne in friendlies and I can't count fu
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>>548347497
I can already tell your post is going to be retarded, so I'm not going to bother reading it.
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Sometimes I say doko, but when they koko I don't join
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I love women
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you can invent the majority of RMS yourself within a hundred hanchans
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Sometimes I spam doko and never make the room despite being able to
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>>548348139
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>>548345953
to sleep
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https://x.com/mfg573/status/1994934402053542193
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>>548348194
same
doko
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>>548348139
if you love them so much why don't you become one
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>>548348502
Wake up, TO!
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I'm Adept and I can count fu
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>>548348602
IIDX
QMA
uhhh
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>>548348648
I'm biologically uncapable...
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>>548333790
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>>548333790
>movies
JUQ-749
PTRD-033
SDMU-939
SDMU-951
RPIN-077
MOON-017
NGOD-063
RMER-051
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>>548333790
SAO
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>>548341532
Do people really believe this?
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>>548341532
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>>548350643
Top mahjong professionals and writers believe that books are harmful.
https://note.com/kawamura0603/n/ncf5342ba6bf3
Honestly, RB1 should be removed from the repo.
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>>548351108
>gold room saint
kek
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>>548351178
You mean Jade Room Celestial.
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>>548351241
wow he's just like every celestial, why would I listen to him over someone like futoshi?
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>>548351108
Based, "+EV" deal-ins are a massive cope.
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Books are harmful. That's why I'm don't read.
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>>548351887
That's baby shit. Words are the real problem, which is why I aposdnfoika aerfgishdf sadouigfbasudftgh afsedgihsdfgopih
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occultkeks are so funny
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Digital niggers could never will a double yakuman in south 4 to win the entire tournament for their team
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ESL king...
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>indog occultkek
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>>548347497
Me when I'm Tom Bombadil.
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I had trips
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Yes, my hand is obvious.
Now are you gonna fold or risk the deal-in anyway?
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https://files.catbox.moe/5wp9lv.png
steve...
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>>548351319
You've done nothing but tsumogiri middle manzu and pinzu since turn 1 and have a hatsu and haku ponned. I wouldn't drop the twice discarded chun if my life depended on it.
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>>548351108
this is the fate of games post-game theory. they're for mathematicians and theoreticians now. players, genius and intuition, are obsoleted.
I think the perfect information games, chess most of all, has had it the worst. those can be solved. games like mahjong, best you can do is game the statistics.
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>>548355087
So basically, we should all switch to poko as it's the only soulful board game left?
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texas foldem vs betaoriichi mahjong in a folding everything is the optimal play competition
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Who has the harder job? Dokolympics TO, or League TO?
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>>548355610
god no. for one, poker is a dumb, secondly its even more raped.
there's less state and even less choice, which means less variance.
its all around easier to min-max. not to mention its more popular so actual theory people care about it.
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Are you betaori or are you mawashi
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>>548356764
Mawashi geri
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Without a single hit of irony, the only soulful board game left in the entire world is /mjg/ TCG.
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Catan's got soul
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>>548357035
if catan had soul it wouldn't have been dropped from dokolympics
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Add power grid to dokolmypics
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Add the royal game of ur to dokolympics
https://youtu.be/WZskjLq040I?si=2a-HLYA_Y_hj58J2
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>>548357636
there's a site to play it online, its pretty fun. a lot like backgammon.
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>>548356764
NEITHER
Kanzen Shinko Nyaggers BANZAI
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>>548349818
>Aurica and no Misha
Misha is better, just check the Pixiv tags and they agree with me: Misha has double the amount of art Aurica has with Shurelia having triple.
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You're doing your part, right, /mjg/?
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>>548341532
I don'r care about reads from other players, I either tsumo or force them into a situation where they have no choice but to challenge anyway.
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>>548360809
I'm ain't doing it for free, fuji. Pay me.
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>>548360809
intern-kun, tell yostar to call gust
we want an ar tonelico collab
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>>548360809
I already have War Thunder in that category though
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>>548361131
Somehow you managed to choose a game more Jewish than Mahjong Soul.
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>>548360987
after the death note collab
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>>548333790
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>>548361275
>reddit note
amaekoromo-5.png
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>>548361275
Ako, you can't even afford jade, why would Fu Ji listen to you?
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>>548361187
Should I vote for MTGA instead?
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>>548361315
>GTO
the basedest
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How bad is Danganronpa?
Is it worth trying out?
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>>548362349
It's cringekino, worth a playthrough
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>>548362349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfj1zQdJHZc
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>last room posted in /mjg/ was 5 hours ago >>548333949

grim
Majsoul Friends Room 40124(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=40124
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>>548362349
It's a great series
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>>548362513
sorry I'm eating
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>>548362349
1 is actually pretty bad but its the first so it gets a pass
2 is alright
3 is metakino
there's no point in watching the trainwreck anime, but if you do, read alongside the threads of when it released
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>>548362513
still 1/4
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>>548362797
WRONG
it's 2/4 now
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>>548362797
if I join this it's just going to be the cat room again
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kringe steve...
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let me finish eating I'll join at 3/4
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>>548362513
>>548363137
IT'S 3/4 RIGHT NOW
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>>548363226
yeah but I was the 3 out of 4
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that live2d is way too lewd
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every late burger hours has to have that one last room that takes twenty minutes to fill
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brb 3 min
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I need to stop going to sleep at 6 am...
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>>548363328
We must have one last game before the stupid EuroNEETs ruin /mjg/ again!
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>>548363359
why did you join, I didn't get to brb
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>>548362513
>>548363226
>started
Nigger
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>>548363447
me too buddy, me too
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hello burgers
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stop playing I'm trying to do something
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>>548363865
hello
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>>548350186
Update your list
JUQ-749
PTRD-033
SDMU-939
SDMU-951
MOON-017
NGOD-063
RMER-051
PARATHD-3089
DSVR-1831
STCV-578
476MLA-238
326EVA-206
PARATHD-2618
NSSTH-037
PPP-2391
083PPP-2673
083PPP-2542
MXGS-594
KAVR-003
NHDT-388
GG-168
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sorry I didn't want to lose 1000 points
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>>548364114
Why would you do this to Xenia
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I shouldn't have skipped ron on you
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there's too much overlap between my friends list and the list...
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normalize dama
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i was upgrading
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>>548366431
the most sociable of anons ended up on the inner circle
who would have thought
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If you could jong you wouldn't need dama.
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Icanjong
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I dama to save a riichi stick
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(TAKE ME, TAKE ME HIGHER)
KOI WA SHOOT SHOOT
(TAKE ME, TAKE ME HIGHER)
TAMA NI CUTE, CUTE
(TAKE ME, TAKE ME HIGHER)
ITSUMO LOVE YOU
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NormalizeDama
IWasUpgrading
IDamaToSaveARiichiStick
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>>548367059
sex with all those slutss
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I came.
https://exhentai.org/g/3661848/5035c3c477/
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Whenever a retard ron's me with pinfu nomi, I thank them. That could have been a menpin ippatsu ura 1 mangan that would have cost me twice as many points, but instead they chose to be damatards. Same with chiitoi nomi.
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Majsoul Friends Room 15124(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=15124
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Watashi zutto anata o miteta
Kodoku o oitekita mitai
Koyoi tsuki mo warai kakeru
Kocchi o muite
Oh, fly me to the star
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>>548366794
I enjoyed prism spiral first
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>>548367358
I'm on my yearly rewatch of Aikatsu on Parade just felt like singing along with Aoi
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You guys have rotted my brain. Whenever I want to punch something it's now "TO punch" instead of normal punching...
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We gonna dance, wanna see your hands
Taking higher, taking higher

We’re made of stars, wanna feel you up
Getting higher, getting higher
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>>548367358
stop uploading cp
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supertooooo
PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>548362349
It's garbage for women and "women".
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>>548362349
It's kino for men
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>>548362513
GGs

lucky rabbit...
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>>548362513
ggs
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>>548362349
It's an ok read, nothing too groundbreaking but probably the best one in the series. Love me Kirigiri bacon hands.
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I'm gonna reuse danganronpa theme next league https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7c5NJ_CXio
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>>548362513
gg and gn
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>brown hours
>terasakichihori-1.png
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>>548368618
nice tiddies....
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>>548362513
ggs
>>548368618
titmogged...
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Only trannies like Danganronpa
So no surprise their general is in a state it is.
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Ron on the Chii Pon
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>be burger
>go to sleep
>wake up and see eurokeks have ruined /mjg/ again
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browns are our best posters, TOs, repomeidos, and commentators
now imagine if we had black anons
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>>548367215
lol
lmao
stay mad riichikek
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>>548367919
t.
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Despite being the most populous country on earth, why don't we have any Indians on /mjg/?
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>>548369135
they're league tourists
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>>548367919
don't check the 4han catalog...
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>>548369135
watch more telly, there's one who commentates here
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>>548369135
One of our commentators is indian
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>>548367227
room closed
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>>548369269
how am i supposed to know room status of you don't post it
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>>548369221
>>548369224
He's Indonesian, not Indian.
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>>548369357
Ind(ones)ian
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>>548369357
i thought the indog accent sounded more chinky than that
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All coons look alike to me
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>>548369423
That's like saying Austrians are the same as Australians!
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>>548369513
hanner would say this
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>>548369541
start chasing half dead shanpons?
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>>548369357
proof?
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>>548369628
Your /mjg/ map?
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>>548369513
hanner would not say this
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Is there Japanese/Mahjong terminology for luck, luckshitting, or being lucky? Like "ah, this motherfucker is the lucky one this game"

"designated luck winner"
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HOLY BASED
HOLY SOUL
HOLY RETARD
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>>548369751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bExr8Y66kB4&t=6098s
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>>548369204
>go to suuhan
>see mahjongas
>click on mahjongas
>mime type mapping is as broken as it was in april
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>>548369531
They aren't?
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>>548369713
nagare
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>>548369751
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED I KNEEL
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>>548369935
Wrong. Flow isn't luck, you make it yourself
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>>548369713
un ga ii
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>>548369852
Why have we been meming on steves for this when accepting the ssk here would have meant dealing in?
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>>548370054
We're meming on the Indian
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>>548370054
stevebro...
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>>548369870
>he installt windows
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WWYD?
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>>548370275
it's an 8.1 i use for 4chan, mahjong, and eroge
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I'll be trying out Danganronpa since it's only 1 dollar right now.
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>>548370306
pei
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>Redditronpa
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>>548370416
You'll be a sister next we meet.
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>>548370416
Use that dollar on something better
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>>548369852
>gay egg
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>>548370564
>>548370572
>>548370631
But /mjg/ told me it's kino!!!
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>>548370631
Can't buy a decent food with a dollar nowadays
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>>548370054
asapin rejected ssk too
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>>548370702
it was during retard hours, the same people would probably recommend you s;g
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>>548370743
Asapin rejected his happy family life too
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>>548370702
That'd be Ar Tonelico though? (I think only 2 people have finished it and 2 people are currently playing.)
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>>548370702
>kino
Anybody who uses that word is a retard, so not surprising
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>>548370416
I have impulse purchased danganronpa and added it to my backlog because of you.
I hope you're prepared to take responsibility for my dollar if it turns out to be reddit.
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>>548370702
It still is
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>>548370950
You can refund it? Steam is pretty lenient with their refund policy.
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>>548370950
I will take responsibility.
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>he bought
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that's like 1/3 of a big mac. money wasted...
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dangitronpaul is for teenage girls in the 2010s
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>>548371174
Big Macs are three bucks? Doko???
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>>548370306
2s
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>>548371236
aren't we all
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>>548371174
Where the hell are you getting big macs for 3 dollars?
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>>548371245
Taiwan
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>>548370705
your canned fish reps?
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>>548371236
Everything teenage girls in the early 2010s liked turned out to be kino in retrospect though.
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I haven't eaten fast food in years, if you need to spend $10+ dollars for food I'm going to a taco truck
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>>548371406
you mercury poisoning reps?
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>>548371449
you'd have to eat an obscene amount of tuna or whale. 'deenz don't have this problem.
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After much peer pressure, I've decided to not go through with the purchase.
Thank you for your attention.
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good it's shit
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>>548371303
dumpster
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>>548371587
NO
YOU'RE PLAYING IT WITH ME
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next mjs collab confirmed
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League team theme: pinks.
That's it. Pinks. Maybe even sex with pinks.
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>>548371750
matsuken samba?
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Beat pinks into a coma
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I'm drinking PINK lemonade!
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>Broke tenpai and got 2nd as a result because I thought the 6s I drew was a 7
Kill me.
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>>548372168
okay
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Wow breakin the rule
Roppou zensho ja shibarenai
hanran bunshi sa
Furiageta nigiri kobushi ga oretachi no JUDGEMENT
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>>548372168
so what videogame or youtube video or alcoholic beverage or pornographic doujin were you partaking in while playing ranked mahjong
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>>548372167
you're telling me a pink aided these lemons?
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I hate myself and my play style. Gonna loop soon.
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>>548372545
She rubbed her pink armpits all over them to make them taste better!!1
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I ate too many beets and my pee turned pink..
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>>548372753
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I need more games like nier or atelier where i can just stare at femc's butt
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>>548373581
Mahjong!!
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>>548373625
Don't forget being able to dress up the femc
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>>548373706
this too
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>>548373706
troon
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>>548373209
I ate too many carrots. Now I'm orange.
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>>548373908
I'm orange steve
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Big Buck Bunny
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>>548373625
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>>548373908
i remember watching magic school bus in like 2000 and they said there it would literally happen
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>>548374086
I'm not sure about carrots, but Colloidal Silver will do that to you. It'll make you blue though (daboodee dabooda)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Karason
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>>548374227
yo, listen up, here's a story
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https://youtu.be/ZnxdvSMun_o
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>>548374227
dunmer are real?
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>>548325828
RC has voice chat in friendlies
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>>548374930
I'll be hibikeeping it real with you, but Hibikek doesn't know what Dunmer are. It's before her time.
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I don't want to hear your ESL voices though
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>>548375473
but skyrim was only 6 years ago
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>>548375551
Yeah, the Skyrim remastered HD edition for the Switch, maybe, Todd.
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>>548373908
hello sneve
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>>548375806
nini sbeve
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CALANDAGAN WINS THE JAPAN CUP IN A RECORD TIME! ジャパンカップ
cynthia-7.png
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https://youtu.be/HKvXtgRUYdQ
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>doorknobs licking girls
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3 girls 1 cup
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Where are the mahjong javs in the repo?
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they're not that good
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>>548377895
I took all the free space on repo by uploading Clannad
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>>548377971
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT NOBODY WATCHED THAT SLOP EVERYONE READ THE VN
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>>548373908
that's brown
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food xenia is like posting artchan
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>>548374071
I should actually watch this one of these days.
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>>548376916
>gaiuma winning the nihon cappu
owari da
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> ̶n̶a̶m̶e̶s̶
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>>548378521
>/mjg/'s only Celestial is a baggie
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artchan? is that like some kind of art making buddy?
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>>548378702
>only celestial
did the other ones derank or something
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>>548378521
did he win?
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he removed me from friends after league was over
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>>548378964
noten tobi 4th
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>>548376916
wtf lol
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>>548379570
kimi no aiba ga!
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>>548379570
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>>548379034
>check friends list
>still there
good cup, soulful cup
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>wake up, read /mjg/
>not a single good post (until this one was made)
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>protein brand changed the container so half of it becomes mist when you try to portion it out into a smaller container
M-my gains...
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>>548380439
sorry did you say something?
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>>548379927
>>548380042
That horse went on to "win" (disqualified).

Also this happened at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppyS_xGqQuo
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For me it's ban'ei horse races
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>>548380559
why did they high five? was it some nonaggression pact to let the disqualified horse win?
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what do?
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the game
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>>548380559
Yeah this year's Japan Cup was a shitfest
Next year should be promising based on the Breeders' Cup in the last two years
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>>548381043
the format
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>>548381092
>>548381145
i was joking of course
this is the worst thing i've ever done to rank up
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>>548380982
I assume the 2nd place guy just wanted to congratulate the winner.
The jockeyless horse did good to pace himself, but he had the advantage of not carrying a human's worth of weight around.
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>>548381237
sick
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>>548381043
yeah, I'm going Scipio Africanus on this one
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>>548381247
why don't they run without the jockeys
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>>548381402
horses are retarded
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>>548381475
then send them to horse school
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Anything women like is automatically bad because women are stupid and have shit taste in everything.
Mahjong.
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>>548381859
but women love mahjong?
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>>548381927
Proofs?
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>>548382075
Your local club
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>>548380559
>Croix du Jobs jobs again
FUCK!
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>>548361315
based list
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>>548381927
sanma isnt real mahjong
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ninibros...
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nino a shit
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I am so fucking glad all the harem incels arent gonna invade my client
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>>548385743
youtube link doko
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>>548385743
Nakano Nino (CV: #TaketatsuAyana)
Birthday: May 5th
Height: 159cm
Playstyle: efficiency-focused
Favorite Yaku: Ittsu
>>548385945
When they're all out, probably.
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>>548386081
>Playstyle: efficiency-focused
>Favorite Yaku: Ittsu
is this supposed to be a joke
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>>548385457
What the hell is this?
Why is he banned from emoting?
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>>548386151
They got one right at least
Nakano Ichika (CV: #HanazawaKana)
Birthday: May 5th
Height: 159cm
Playstyle: ambiguous discards
Favorite Yaku: Chiitoitsu
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>>548370572
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>>548385743
she should've won...
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>>548385743
built for NTR
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>>548370572
>>548386220
Why is DGR trannycore? I dont plan on playing it so I cant find out, is it just because of the tumblr aesthetic?
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How important is it to keep 5 over other tiles when going for chiitoi, considering that you could draw an akadora?
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>>548386496
When you don't you'll draw it, when you do you never will
Fuck chiitoi
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>>548385743
decently sized mahjongas
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>>548386496
not important, aka will never come or no one will drop it
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>back to baseline again
feels good to be back to where I belong
>but in return I got cucked from first place because of luckshitter shimocha
shikatanai..
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>sanma tourney has almost 50 participants already
Sanmachads won.
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Did you know? Chiitoi is more reliable than pinfu or tanyao in sanma. Forcing chiitoi at 5 pairs works almost every time.
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>>548386675
how are you still m1 after 3000 hanchans
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Sanma nuts down your throat.
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Didn't know bookbro used to actually win hands
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>>548386735
I lost all my luck points after hitting m3, should have told my past self to just quit mahjong forever..
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2020 was 1 year ago
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>>548385743
no it's not
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>>548385457
>nyagger player is the only damanigger at the table and he's damaing babby hands
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I signed up and am already regretting it
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>>548385457
why does he have to be so close to the camera
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>>548362349
play it, so you can join the danganronpa team
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put me on the miko team
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>>548385743
Ninibros....
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>>548387040
You think I can read Chinese? YOU IDIOT!
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>>548387902
The joke is Koitus did not recognise the wing shape
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>>548388050
joke?
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>>548388050
the what
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heeeeyyyyyy idols its me P-san, as in p*n*s-san!
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>n*m*s
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>league tourist names
not relevant
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nemis?
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>>548386364
cringe fanbase (american zoomers)
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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
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3-Player Mahjong
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>>548388948
That's not the cause but the effect
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Angel Heart (1987)
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Let me guess, /mjg/ hates Deltarune because Undertale got too popular?
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https://youtu.be/kVNSfzMDzAM?si=hy86OaWF5TyM_kgN
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le...'rokofox!
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>>548388314
panes? pangs? pants? pends? pines? pings? pinks? pints? ponds? pones? pongs? punks? punts?
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>names
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for me it's peniswai
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why is this happening during off league season?
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>nasme
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>>548389776
it's /doko/lympics season
>but /doko/ isn-
you're free to believe whatever you want and instead attribute the current state to some other mysterious source
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Asapin bros, why are we so unlucky
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odds sing up sanma tourney then grinch later
evens replay unicorn overlord
0 ranked
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>>548390226
>some other mysterious source
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does amae or any such service have a list of all the wall hashes in the games they archive? yostar keeps them with the logs of course, but that's not easily accessible.
I'm curious if there's any collisions. (potential rigging)
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>>548390605
how are these retards getting tenpai turn 5 every round
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>namaste
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>>548391164
they are salted to avoid that
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>>548391531
and good luck!
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Mom Cat Instantly Carries Her Kittens Back To Nest When the Dad Cat Fights Another Cat!
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>>548391802
to avoid what? and no, they aren't, in fact you can view the wall code in logs unhashed.
they're hashed only during the match. I misspoke when I said "hashes".
they hash them to show that the wall doesn't change. but changing the wall during play isn't the only way to rig.
they can just generate a pool of non-random games and deal from that. and if they were doing that, it would be obvious because the same walls would recur (which they really shouldn't almost ever in a true random deal.)
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>>548392531
ZAMN detective looks like that?!
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>>548392498
anon, do you know what salt is? what are you even on about?
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>>548392498
>no, they aren't
the salt is literally underneath the hash when you view it during the game
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I'm moving over to Tenhou for a few months. I'll still play tournaments on mjs but I think I need to relearn this game fundamentally without the flashy stuff. I thought you should know
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>>548392794
I'm aware of what salting is, and its irrelevant. the wall code is stored, unhashed and unsalted, with the log.
my question is if there's any ready way to get a list of all these codes.
please try reading next time.
>>548392886
again, the log shows them in plain text.
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>>548392959
>the wall code is stored, unhashed and unsalted, with the log.
if it wasn't, there wouldn't be much point to the hashes, would there? it's obvious it's available (and even if it wasn't you could just write it down)
you get the hash and the salt to avoid hash collisions, the addition of salt makes them extremely unlikely (you would have to generate two same walls AND tho same uuids for the salt or however they're making them)
i have no idea if there's a way to extract them easily, but cheating this way would be fool's errand
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>>548393228
>and even if it wasn't you could just write it down
sure, but has anyone done that? that's the whole point of what I'm asking.
>you get the hash and the salt to avoid hash collisions, the addition of salt makes them extremely unlikely
I'm not talking about real, backend database hash collisions, I'm using the term "collision" loosely, talking about them reusing the value, different hash or not.
>cheating this way would be fool's errand
using it to cheat isn't the point, and the salting would make it unfeasable. the point is auditing, to see if they're dealing fairly.

asking this during SEAmonkey hours was a mistake. sorry for wasting your time sirs.
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>>548386496
not at all
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>>548393827
>I'm using the term "collision" loosely, talking about them reusing the value, different hash or not.
same
final hash = hash(wall code + hash(salt))
so, having wall code A in two different games, with two different salt hashes (X and Y), would make two different hashes: hash(AX) and hash(AY), so they would be different
>the point is auditing, to see if they're dealing fairly.
i understand, it would certainly be good to have the access to all values at any time for any game, no idea if they provide such access, but as long as the values match, even two same wall codes happening (and they surely do) would not make any games unfair as long as the salt values are different (since it wouldn't allow anyone to check the history for such a wall code occurring in the past)

i have no idea what else do you want, you can wait for the euro hours when they spam the thread with "steins;gate is the best vn" discussion again, just like they did yesterday
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I'm so glad we're talking about salt. Euros could never.
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>>548394454
Euros probably eat unsalted fries.
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>>548394348
thanks grok
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Isn't it Euro hours the now or do those godless heathens also work on the sabbath?
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>>548394625
you're retard, i'm out
have fun looking for unfair games
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SubaHibi is the best vn
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>>548394348
>even two same wall codes happening (and they surely do)
it would be hugely, remarkably improbable, short of a fault in the random number generator. It would never happen if the games were random.
and again, you're caught up on salts and hashes; they're irrelevant, I'm not talking about them, I never meant to bring up the hash to begin with.
all that matters is the string representing the wall, as is visible in the log under the "wall" tab. if some of these values occurred in several games, it would be indicative of rigging.
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omigoto nanoja
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>>548394954
what do you even mean by rigging? yostar tells someone "dude, your wall's gonna be the same as in that one other game"? there's nothing wrong with two walls being generated the exact same way as long as the hashes don't match, because, even if you had access to all the games that happened in the past, you wouldn't be able to figure out what the wall is (since the hash would be different because of the salt)
and even if yostar rigs the game (gives predetermined walls), why wouldn't they just give someone the wall code that has not occurred in the past? maybe i'm a retard, but i have no idea what your reasoning here is
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>>548392934
based, training arc
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closed toitoi should be 3 han instead
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>>548395853
>what is sanankou
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>>548395853
you mean a sanankou shanpon on ron?
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>>548395217
they can generate a pool of games whose wall contents favor a player and deal them to steer towards a desired outcome.
for example, you could, by an algorithm, generate thousands of wall configurations where you get a tenhou every time and deal those. yostar would of course do something different, more subtle, like have them be weighted towards certain players or play styles or any number of criteria.
>there's nothing wrong with two walls being generated the exact same way
the problem is that this would essentially never happen randomly, its astronomically unlikely
>why wouldn't they just give someone the wall code that has not occurred in the past?
in theory they could, but that would take too much processing power to do on the fly for millions of hands, it would need to be done in advance to have any utility. just spin up a set of a few thousand or however many, put them in a pool, and its done. even if you played the same hand twice within even a short interval you probably wouldn't even notice; you'd think it was deja-vu and shrug it off, so there's no real necessity for them all to be unique.
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>>548395957
you're forgetting the important part
>why

every time some gambling addicts blame the online casinos for being "rigged" against them the question is really: why would the casino need to rig anything, when they profit enough just by existing normally and legitimately
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>>548392593
Yes
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>>548395957
>the problem is that this would essentially never happen randomly, its astronomically unlikely
but my point is, even if it did, it's still not unfair, because the player has no way of knowing that without insider knowledge
>it would need to be done in advance to have any utility. just spin up a set of a few thousand or however many, put them in a pool, and its done
that's exactly my point
even assuming yostar rigs the games, rigging it this way (a pregenerated pool to be given to certain players) makes it undetectable, so i doubt they would reuse any walls if they wanted to give anyone certain advantage (unless they're aiming for the deja vu effect, giving you the same hand you played well, expecting you to make the exact same decisions and assuming other players don't change the flow)
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>>548396170
I don't know "why", the question isn't "why", its "are they doing it?" once we have an answer to that then we can speculate as to why. maybe some chink at corporate gets his jollies to gweilos getting shafted, it doesn't really matter.
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>>548396324
because without a motive, why would it even be worth investigating
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yostar hates me and only me specifically and is giving me shit tiles
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>>548396367
to know if its rigged. it doesn't matter why a game is rigged, you just need to know that it isn't.
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>>548396473
so how are you going to find your absolute proof
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>>548396367
to be fair, i can think of a motive like the one a*****u was accusing them of, giving good haipais to paypigs and weak hands to f2ps, to make a psychological connection to "i bought the charm/rolled a character, i played well, now my hands are bad," but they wouldn't have to reuse wall codes to achieve that
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Is this a repeat of yesterday
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>>548396576
we started on the wrong foot, but i guess we're keeping the discussion civil for now
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>>548396570
That would be too noticeable for it to be a subtle psychological effect to keep whales hooked, too damaging in the long term
I mean shit, there is none of that to begin with and yet these accusations keep popping up from mentarulets

Anecdotally, some of our faster climbing highest ranked anons are completely F2P, and a lot of gigaloopers are megawhales.
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>>548396570
>a*****u
Who?
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Hey! Wait a minute. I missed the discussion.
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>>548396792
yeah, you're probably right, i just tried to think of any motive i could

>>548396857
a spammer from a few months ago, he got banned twice
he basically uploaded screenshots of all of his games, claiming yostar was rigging them, because he was a f2p
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>>548396857
AEIOU
JOHN MADDEN
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>>548396323
>but my point is, even if it did, it's still not unfair, because the player has no way of knowing that without insider knowledge
the player might not know, but they might still suffer a negative outcome that was predetermined for them. a fixed game is unfair even if the players don't know its fixed.
>so i doubt they would reuse any walls
in order to do that, they would have to make a rather large dataset, probably for millions of hands, which is impractical and time consuming. if they had even just a few thousand, nobody would notice. most players don't even ever play that many games.
just the fact that this is a possible thing that could happen and no-one's inquired about it says it all, nobody would bat an eye if this were going on.
>>548396529
the statistics. maybe you'd say its not "absolute proof', but I'm not asking about "absolute proof"
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>>548397384
>you just need to know that it isn't
sounded to me like you needed absolute proof
if there's a single game unchecked you wouldn't know

also this all relies on the assumption the same wall plays the exact same in every game when a single call just changes the draw order
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>>548397384
>they would have to make a rather large dataset, probably for millions of hands
i believe mahjong-cpp has the wall-generating code with mpsz format serializer, you could try to setup a generator (along with hashing and salting routine) and see how many walls you can generate in 10 minutes
remember how much money they have, they wouldn't mind wasting several gigabytes on a wall database table and they can run it on a separate machine several times powerful than your home hardware
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>>548397709
Bots definitely take it.
I'd skip.
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>>548397709
just accept your 2nd place lil bro
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>>548397483
it might not play the same, but that's not the point, it might not even have the same outcome as the rigger intends any time its played. if its put there for the purpose of rigging, it shows at least an effort to put a finger on the scale and skew away from natural gameplay.
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>>548397848
yeah, so it loops back even more to the original question
>why?
especially if the rigging fails to even achieve anything
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>>548397709
16k behind? Nah. Just take 2nd.
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>>548397848
what exactly are your conditions for the rig to be happening? a certain percent of same walls generated? same walls generated for the same players? if i were to run such a query on the entire game log (t-sql syntax, forgive me, but that's what i use at work):

select w.PlayerId, w.RawWallCode
from Walls w
group by w.PlayerId, w.RawWallCode
having COUNT(*) > 1

and it'd return at least one result, would that satisfy you and give you the proof you need?
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>>548398028
16k behind is just 8k direct, something we have right here
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>>548397134
>>548397302
ah that guy
never bothered to remember his name
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Fu Ji is a whore
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>>548398419
either her hand or her head is wrong
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>>548398242
Proof?
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Attention please, attention.
I have decided to induct Spirit Circle into the prestigious /mjg/core pantheon. While other Mizukami works are good, none quite clear the high bar like this one.
What does this mean going forwards? Any time /mjg/core is brought up, you are TOgally obligated to mention Spirit Circle along with the other shows and games that have been previously inducted.
Did I consult the IRCcabal before this? Of course not, I consulted the voices inside my head which offer sounder council.
Thank you for your attention and cooperation.
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>>548398762
What a spirit circle? Is it like a pizza?
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>>548398762
I shall only oblige if you post an OC emote edit featuring the collab you are interest in
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ATTENTION /MJG/
Don't forget to say your rabbits tomorrow!
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>>548398762
I have no idea what you're talking about
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>>548398685
There is none, my cute wife is not a whore
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>>548398019
rigging a game of choice in this way can't be perfect, like they cant offer up a true false dilemma, either this or that where both are losses, but they can easily point you down a path which you've got little to no chance of winning through suggestion; a promising haipai or what have you.
>why
to tip the scales, for whatever end they have in rigging. why doesn't matter.
>>548398053
one should probably be enough, yeah, because the odds of one wall being dealt multiple times ever in a game of mahjong is virtually zero.
but what you'd really want to see is some pattern of recurrence, that much of the entire set has appeared multiple times. just because its so easy to call a fluke. and its not like, if you're going to do something like this, that you're going to screw one guy over in one hand once, it would be an ongoing thing and rigged hands would occur several times, especially over a long period of time.
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>>548398885
no
didn't work for me the last time I did it, and didn't work the time before
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>>548398685
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>>548398762
I wish Spirit Circle got the anime adaptation instead of Sengoku Youko. Also I'm still mad about that terrible Biscuit Hammer adaptation
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>>548398908
>why doesn't matter.
well it kinda does matter, if there's no probable why then there's no real reason to believe it'd be happening
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I hear a character with a Kansai dialect, I mute.
Simple as.
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>>548397709
I would
2nd and 3rd are far enough behind that taking risks isn't too much of a problem, plus you've got your dealer turn coming up
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>>548398923
Third time's the charm, you dumbass.
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>>548398105
This is the kind of hopeful thinking you have to discard. Dealer mangan would also put you in third.

What's the name of that behaviour pattern in psychology? Where people will innately overvalue potential benefit compared to the risk? The reason why people play things like lotteries.
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rabbit rabbit
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>>548398838
Give me a week.
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>>548398885
your rabbits tomorrow
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>>548399075
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>>548399004
it doesn't mean anything to speculate on a motivation, it has nothing to do with the reality of whether or not its happening.
there's a possibility of it, and that alone warrants inquiring into it.
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>>548397776
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>>548398028
>>548399121
Bots take it. I had auto-ron on.

>>548399137
>Dealer mangan would also put you in third.
So that'd be a 0 while winning is +2 and 2nd place is +1. We also see six of the seven dora
Think if I had two calls or if I saw shimocha actively folding against me it'd be better, right now he's shoving 8p still so he might be more willing to play his own hand than max betaori
Chances of 4th are very low here, and if a hand is gonna give me good odds of winning it's this one, but taking 2nd is fine as well
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>>548399347
>there's a possibility of it, and that alone warrants inquiring into it.
a lot of things are theoretically possible but a waste of time to investigate especially if you fail to provide a hypothesis as for why these theoretical possibilities would be occurring in the first place
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>>548399343
I have never seen this jyanshi before
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>>548398838
I made this like four years ago now, does this count?
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>>548398908
>one should probably be enough
i agree that the chances of that happening are very low, but i still have no idea what yostar gains by doing something like that
notice i grouped it for the player, you could take that out and just see if any walls (disregarding the players) occurred more than once at any point (the odds are not as low, but i still have no idea what would yostar achieve by that, i believe they can have a separate pool for rigging if they ever were to do something like that, see my pool generation post)
i believe we all put our points on the table and i see no way to conclude our discussion, so i'm just gonna go play games now
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>>548399547
To be expected of a male character.
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>>548399615
Don't click on this if you haven't read Spirit circle
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>>548398958
at least they censored the toes
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>>548399690
Too late
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>>548399690
What do you think the spoiler is for genius?
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I dont read coming of age slop anyway
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>>548399504
well why does anyone rig games ever? they do, there's no doubt of that, so pick your favorite of those. people have been cheating people in games for all of history, so people are and should be quite weary to the possibility of them being cheated.
having a fair game is enough of a motivation to ask about it, plain and simple.
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I always feel like somebody is watching me and I have no privacy!
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>>548400028
Some people have nothing in their lives and never learned not to be an obnoxious shithead. For instance, most Russians.
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>>548400028
>so pick your favorite of those.
none of those hold up. like I said earlier, there's no reason for a legitimate casino to rig their games because operating legitimately and acquiring a reputation is far more profitable and important in the long run
also you keep saying you don't "speculate on a motivation" when it's all you're really doing. otherwise you wouldn't be talking about "rigging" in the first place
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>>548399785
It's okay, it doesn't spoil much.
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>>548399615
Women are disgusting, eww.
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>>548400310
casinos have gotten into trouble for rigging games in the past, even fairly recently. they're not above any of that stuff, legal liability, diminishing their image, any of it. they do a lot of crooked stuff. there was that one card counting guy, they straight up stole all his earnings. pretty sure its an ongoing lawsuit.
>when its all you're really doing
I'm saying nothing of any motivation. its simply a theoretical possibility, and I wouldn't put it past them. I don't even presume they are doing it, but I'm saying they very well could be, because its possible and game promoters have done similar things in the past.
the better question is why you think I should just assume yostar hosts a fair game? its tantamount to just saying "don't worry about it bro, just trust the process." if the game's unfair, I want to play elsewhere. that's all.
I have to go to bed now. its 8:20am.
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>>548401145
>why you think I should just assume yostar hosts a fair game?
occam's razor
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>>548401145
next time maybe try to make a well-formed definition of what you mean by "rigged," because you were only speculating the entire time with rather vague definitions of what would yostar actually do
the facts were laid out: you have access to wall codes, they are salted, players themselves cannot cheat without having friends at yostar, yostar has other methods of cheating than reusing walls, they can outright make them up
i don't think you made your point clear through the entire discussion
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stop arguing in circles and just post or think of a way to compile a 1000 mahjsoul walls
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>>>/vm/2089586
You can gamble on horses starting in 5 hours. Gambling is mahjong so this is relevant.
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>>548403000
what is the flow meta when betting
also, nice trips
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>>548402953
1000 wouldn't prove anything, there are 2.952328e+38 possible walls (not counting the 0m0p0s, they would make that number even higher), so the chance of two walls being the same are astronomically low, but if it happened, it wouldn't be something impossible
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>>548403479
>2.952328e+38
no, it's actually higher, i'm a retard, but i'm also too dumb to calculate it properly
but it's high
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>>548403000
Sorry blud, /uma/ is 2 blocks down.
This is the MAHJONG thread and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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Confucius say: be wary of gigashitter with last dealer turn
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>>548399343
holy rare emote
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>>548398885
thanks, at least I can't blame you for not reminding me early enough this time
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>>548403000
>>548404000
>548403000
>548404000
How do you do that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0QX9HdbtHY
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Ten Ton Hanner
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Ya but what are chances for a tenhou sutankai daisushi tsuiisou
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>>548404000
Trips beats trips... uma lost.....
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>>548404249
yostar rigged the walls, so they repeat
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This post is salted. Do not eat.
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>>548404605
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Old man adventures in Jade room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMAeCs_r2i0
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>discussion about the how low the chances of something are
>anon replies immediately after to another anon who got 000 exactly 1000 points later
this whole thread is a rigged sitcom
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>>548404832
>Jade
Wasn't he Celestial or am I confusing him with someone?
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>>548404942
It's an alt
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>>548404832
Time to snipe
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>playing ar tonelico
>see 外側
>immediately think of mahjong
mahjong fried my brain
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>>548405170
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https://autotable.riichi.moe/?gameId=koko

mumble: riichi.moe

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>>548404832
unc getting cooked
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>>548407386
>>548407386
>>548407386
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>>548406709
Thanks for the game!
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>>548406709
ggs
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