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>both drown
how would you design a system where this would happen?
clearly in the current game state only 1 person drowns so there is no benefit to not killing other people

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>>548515554
>busting my ass trying to get the trial outfit
>remember through this OP that it looks like complete dogshit and if it were in the shop I wouldn't buy it for 400 coins
>only interested because it's exclusive
>stop caring
thanks

What's wrong with the trial mechanic? I've kinda ignored it

>>548515640
You don't. It's not possible, I think. Not without something like a division dark zone-style "THIS FAGGOT KILLED A GUY" alarm or whatever.

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>>548515554
>be me
>freekit
>hear a deadline get placed close by as I spawn
>run towards it
>see a bastion explode
>hide in bush
>guy sprints out to loot it
>he hasn't even recharged his shield
>kill him with ~5 stitcher shots
>practically cries into the mic
What is wrong with the fags who play this game?

>>548515839
It's impossible to do it you only play solo (the correct way to play) so you did the correct thing

>>548515839
>playing in a squad doesn't chop your contributions by 1/3 so it's basically mandatory
>scores for individual trials aren't capped and a ton of trials can be cheesed like this week's Kill Hornets where you can throw 100 snitch scanners to spawn them infinitely and stack a bazillion points on one trial
TLDR once you start approaching the higher trials every leaderboard is a massive cheesefest where you can't promote without a dedicated discord LFG doing bullshit

Genuinely not going to play the game until like Friday evening so I can get an easy group to 2x in. I am so close to that outfit

>>548515640
Make maps have more ARC on them and make them actually move towards the sound of gunfire instead of needing to be directly underneath them to aggro them

Gonna KOS anybody with the trial outfit.

>>548515640
introduce more lethal arc and make them far more sensitive to gunfire/better at pursuing people into buildings and shit. Situations where you're just fucked if you didn't bring a lure grenade, showstopper, or enough firepower to stop one.

>>548516471
>>548516572
for something that almost drove humans to extinction, these robots are oddly dependent on sight. I was expecting at least one that would track me by sound or another method

Does anyone else feel that the higher tier weapons just don't feel worth it? I've tried all the legendary and epic guns and besides the Tempest, they just don't feel worth the investment compared to taking something like a Venator or Anvil. Sure, they're good under the right circumstance but only marginally better when cheaper weapons work just fine. And you'll still eventually be dropped by a free loadout hiding in a bush or rushed down by five guys with stitchers so for the time it takes me to craft 10 Aphelions I'd rather just make dozens of max rank Kettles to slug it out with.

>>548517070
I think snitch's visual range should be reduced but their hearing range should be 4x better. Also there should be 12 of them on the map at any time.

>>548517298
Bobcat takes 20 body shots to kill, to Stitcher's 17. 12 and 9 for headshots.
Yeah, the purple weapons are disgustingly dogshit

>>548515874
arc already has it to an extent. you see people occasionally get blown up because they open fire on players with a rocketeer nearby. rocketeer is strong because you get equipment gated by it and it's difficult to take cover from it, you just need more encounters that are like that. special modifiers where it actually feels like arc has control of the surface.

people will find ways to rat but you're more likely to have "NOW WE'LL BOTH DROWN YOU RETARD" moments that are actually real

>>548515640
Not really true thanks to the flares.
Faggot will always come running to rat someone who is weak and get 2x loot for 1 kill

>>548517298
yes, a bit hyperbolic but basically anything that isn't stitcher or kettle is shit

>>548517454
>Also there should be 12 of them on the map at any time.
I'd be surprised if there wasnt

>>548515874
>>548515640
the arc, flares
it's already there. could be tweaked though; higher ttk, more arc. whatever

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newfag here
give me a reason why I shouldn't do this every time?
no I don't care about his loot

>>548517607
Depending on the map there's only 2-5 I think with blue gate having the most

>>548517674
here is your single post of attention mrster autogynephiliac. please, leave

>>548517674
there is no reason.
the game is designed this way.
happy hunting.

>>548517674
Why should you do it?

>>548517808
because I was told this was a pvp game and that I should be pvping all the time

>>548517674
There's no reason not to do it
In real world you'd face prison or severe reputational damage, but since no system like that is present in this game, the only thing stopping you is your conscience, which is a non issue for you since niggers lack this

>>548517674
>nyagger
>female avatar
Fucking tranny autist what a surprise.

>>548517776
>>548517889
>>548517936
damn all this seething reminds me of reddit moralfagging

>>548518046
>doesnt deny being a tranny or having autism
Haha.

>>548517674
I commented on someone's steam that they KOS in solo arc raiders and they privated their whole account

>>548518157
Imagine being this retarded.
No one is looking up steam profiles mid-match.

>>548518157
eh you can delete people's comments and restrict it to friends only so he was being dumb

>>548517878
>I was told this was a pvp game
believable
>and that I should be pvping all the time
that's for the group mode, you didn't at any point think it was weird that nobody was shooting you or fighting back?
sociopaths really just think differently
>I must be the best PvPer in the world
>shooting people just doing their quests or refreshing their loot fo the group mode

>>548518238
at the end of a match it shows you the profiles of everyone you interacted with. literally if your profile isn't private you can just go directly to their steam profile right after they kill you/vice versa

>>548518238
nta but the idea is not that it's a word of warning for other players, but that their friends will see
(u retarded idiot fuck)

>>548517674
Because as soon as I took even 1 bullet I'd hop off the console, destroy you, and spend minutes tbagging you and verbally berating you while others looking to extract also come and join me in telling you to kill yourself

>>548518342
are you a cute girl because I wouldn't mind if so

>>548518296
>>548518318
why the fuck are carebear redditors still playing this game?

>>548517530
Il toro in cqc is retardly strong with 3 person corners

>>548518429
i was just shitting on your thought process lol

>>548518429
To make you mad, faggot.

>>548518295
well I also was told that the pvp in this game is not meant to be balanced tests of skills

>>548517878
Ah I see. You were misinformed. Its pvpve. You dont always have to pvp. Simple misunderstanding.

>>548518429
>>548518504
it was too harsh though, sorry

>>548518504
your thought process is that your steam friends periodically check your profile, read the comments, and make judgements about you based on what rando seethers are whining about
L O L

>>548518594
>the context being that someone literally privated their acc because of it
yae nigga

>>548518543
Make me mad by dying angrily?

>>548517674
If I hop into an extract at the same time as someone I just down them and tell them to use the console, so you'll never catch me at the console

>>548518046
>Be me
>Going to extract on Blue Gate that has rocketeer patrolling
>See it shooting at two guys, two flares pop out
>Extract opens, guys crawl inside
>Go inside before rocketeer target me
>Two guys crawling inside, easy targets for me
>Approach one of the guys, hear a gasping "no", thinking I'm going to down him
>Bandage him instead to make sure he survives the extract
>Don't have time to tend to the other guy, but they had already called the extract so the three of us extract safety
>Hear "thank you, were gonna make it" just as the screen fades to black
You just wouldn't get
You cannot fathom something like this
The nigger brain cannot even compute this possiblity

>>548518672
>the context being that you did it in the first place because brain damage, and were still so angry that you went BACK to check the comments later.
absolutely shat on

>>548518563
I feel like you're just pretending to be retarded to get replies on 4chan

>>548518773
not me and i rarely die in solos. i'm borderline kos
the simple fact here is you made an idiotic assumption and im bullying you for it

>>548518429
>nigggy mad he gets killed in return to trying to backstab/rat
maybe take the friendly pill lil bro

>>548518839
am I failing?

>>548515554
You will never be a real extraction shooter. You have no chase, you have no progression, you have no thrill. You are a battle royale twisted by persistent loot and PvE into a crude mockery of Escape from Tarkov. All the praise you get is uninformed and half-hearted. Genre veterans are bored and unimpressed, "fans" play 2 hours a week and don't know any better.

>>548518852
all of your arguments were even worse than the original poster
you've made no progress whatsoever

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>>548518852
my issue right now is that my stash has been overflowing for 3 weeks

>>548518978
Based buried city bro

>>548518954
you assumed that he commented on their profile presuming that others would check mid match. where are you going with this? are you any less stupid 4 cope posts later?

>>548518046
Why is there always some faggot in here trying to convince everyone that playing pve focused is a reddit thing?

>>548518773
guy who originally made the post

of course I went back and checked, I almost never do that, but when someone goes "Hey, don't shoot" and i go "Hey, don't shoot" back, it's nice letting people know the guy is a sociopath who shoots people in the back after pretending to be friendly

I wanted to see his reaction to me posting the truth on his profile
The reaction was that he privated the whole thing lmao

I guess a sociopath wouldn't care about another person's reaction, it's all based around them and their feelings

>>548518721
Based

>le sociopath
videogames are not real life faggot

>>548519238

when I kill you and you start screaming slurs it's real life then

>>548519238
that's fair, and a lot of people are very dethatched from the game theyre playing. A LOT OF PEOPLE are immersing themselves though. and when you kill these same "le sociopaths" they beg and scream on the mic lol.

>>548518721
i bring 3 defibs in my prison pocket to every raid
the joy of people getting picked up out of nowhere, for nothing
superb

>>548519238
>t. sociopath

short of giving us a million more stash slots, we could really use some cosmetic slots for our rooms.

>>548519238
In other games I agree
But in this game you have proximity chat

Also how you play in videogames is a reflection of how you act in real life, even just going
>it's just a game its not real life
Just kind of shows how sociopathic you are, like you seriously can't put yourself in another person's shoes, or even think for more than second, "Hey this guy isn't shooting me, maybe we can team up" ?

This is probably like, when you imagine an apple in your head, you just imagine the drawing from a cartoon, you can't actually imagine and rotate an apple in 3 dimentions
or
Someone asks you how you would feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning, and your response is
>but I ate breakfast this morning

Anybody else know someone irl and think to themself, “yeah he would should someone in the back at extract”?

damn, didn't think 4chan would seethe so much at someone griefing for fun
this site was always considered the asshole of the internet

>>548519628
Why do people pos disingenuous stuff like this?

Oh right it's a micless sociopath

>>548519603
unironically yes
you need to leave your cave more

I can fit all these (You)s in my stash

one time i saw a guy who was from here post his videogame griefing in a normie community and I think the "wtf is wrong with you" reaction he got genuinely confused him

I know I'm not saying anything new here but like, the stitcher is just too good. I spawned in on dam, I had a S4 with no upgrades at all, it was pretty much the only thing I brought. Someone else had spawned in on me just 2 rooms away. Didn't even know he was there but we bumped into each other coming into the same room. Didn't shoot at first but we both aimed at each other and I wasn't giving him the chance. Unloaded a single mag into him and won, he broke my shields but didn't even half life me.

He was fully kitted with a FULL inventory, don't know why he brought so much shit but he did. The stitcher is just the most unfair weapon in the game

>>548519628
You must be new

Are the devs retarded? Why do they have 0 public communication? Surely they made enough money to hire some shitter to do PR.

>>548519859
Have you just stopped trying to be discreet?
Also get the story straight at least.

>>548519859
kek, someone posted something like that earlier
>friend sends a vid of him shooting people in the back after making them trust him, says it's like no other feeling in the world
>(obviously a sociopath if you feel good about getting someone to trust you and betraying them)
>guy says he's what's wrong with the world

>>548519859
I think it's special in this game because it's so fucking easy to grief and get away with it

>>548520078
They saw what happens to swedes in Helldivers if they have public relations

>>548520273
I didn't play that game
what happened?

>>548520078
Must be the humble, quiet nordic way of life.

>>548520273
lol
never concede to your whiny community

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People who play PvP games and complain about getting shot are a special kind of special. The game literally has you getting shot in the back by "players" in the tutorial btw.

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newfag here again
heard gunshots and a flare and went to investigate
guy was saying on mic that he was innocent and got shot first and that he was friendly
as he chucked a grenade at my face
so I proceeded to beat his ass as he screamed for mercy

>>548517502
>2x the loot
You never learned about multiplying 0 did you?

>carebears are literally making up stories about their in-game bullies to feel better about dying

>>548520443
>game is hard in a frustrating and random way at max difficulties but in a way they largely intended
>players find meta options that allow them to skirt around it and trivialize it, but it's one note and not particularly fun
>devs nerf meta
>people get pissed off that they nerfed meta instead of buffing everything else to make high difficulty trivial with everything (but with variety)
>narrative starts forming that the devs hate their playerbase
>whenever devs try to earnestly explain why they're doing things this way they get screamed at, called incompetent, moronic, egotistical, etc
>devs eventually relent and do everything the community wants pretty much as player count starts bleeding
>game is now trivial and beyond solved at max difficulty but you can use a bunch of things
>devs are trapped in an eternal abusive relationship with the community who, now validated in chimping out, spergs out whenever the devs do anything they don't approve of, ever, no matter how minor
>redditors still pretend that this was a perfectly reasonable dialogue between player and developer and not an insane, hysterical meltdown to this very day

i accidentally vaulted while battling a squeaker and he dropped me... and he actually had mercy and defib'd me.
(some of) the kids are alright

>>548520724
I'm assuming he screamed with an accent?

>>548521018
no, it was one of those synthetic raider voices? idk

>>548520724
Why do you play as a female character?

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>>548520523
>>548520932

>>548521095
both making the same point

>>548520952
Wasnt the balance guy very smug on roddit for nerfing things or insulting people?
Its so long ago

>>548521190
iirc he made a joke and people acted like it was a vicious personal attack

>>548521071
Have you seen how tight most on the pants are?

>>548521147
Are you here 24/7?

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>>548521071
cuz they look cute
also I want this outfit

>>548520724
Nefriend, use shoulder swap to peek corners better

>>548520952
Decent sum up of they knelt now the playerbase wants them to keep sucking and any changes no matter how minor that arent in player favor is seen as a slight and gets explosive demand to be changed. Shits crazy dev player relation

>>548517674
You're okay with doing this because negroes, or niggers as I like to call them, lack a developed frontal lobe

>>548520952
>defending the devs
They literally admitted what they did was retarded. If 90% of the weapons/stratagems in the game are completely useless and unfun to use, it's a massive problem on their part. Also, a number of devs and community managers were fired for power tripping and taunting the playerbase, dont pretend like they dindu nuffin.

So what will the rats do when their nigger behavior drives away any earnest and honest player, and they're left in lobbies where everyone is a rat and no one is friendly?

>>548521554
I'm sure the stealth nerfs and making the halo stuff useless were purely accidental

>>548521352
>graphics settings look like they're high/ultra
holy chad

>>548521639
just like antibiotic resistance, that's something worth accelerating, not delaying

>>548521554
>They literally admitted what they did was retarded.
wow a corporation played damage control everything they're saying must be from the soul, director instantly noped the fuck out after the big patch because he just loved working on helldivers
>If 90% of the weapons/stratagems in the game are completely useless and unfun to use
retarded hyperbole
>Also, a number of devs and community managers were fired for power tripping and taunting the playerbase,
mostly harmless jokes that the community and the dreaded content creator took as an excuse to deepen their eternal victim complex

>>548521694
let me guess, the (((streamers))) play on minimum settings to gain an edge

Just finished the expedition, when do you get to choose to leave? Is that not announced yet, I don't see anything in game about it besides it saying "expedition window is closed"; did I miss it?

>>548521654
Collab shit being mid is par for the course comparing to the killzone shit even.

face 2, 3 or 15 for femoid characters?

>>548521824
I'm reporting you to the Mossad. Enjoy.

>>548521860
Dec 15

>>548521913
Your mom's.

>>548521913
im using 10 because i like her mature look and nearly jew nose

Had a guy trying to extract with me at the swamps yesterday and hornets swarmed up and I got hit by one, he asked if I was okay, shot me in the back and downed me, and left in the terminal and another guy walked over and knocked me out who didn't have a mic. Really pathetic and abhorrent behavior. Glad I'm not a twisted sociopath. Do these people feel any remorse or shame? They must right

what do i do with these SIX venator 4s i dont really want to run anymore?

>>548522034
Cool thanks

>>548521824
i watch streamers (as background noise while working) and legitimately in like 80 hrs have not seen a single person running graphics settings above low

>>548521278
who?

>>548522135
IT's jUsT a BidEoGaMe

>>548520724
Once you kill people you are put into sociopath lobbies with people going
>I'm friendly
then shoot you in the back

or just pvptards in general

have fun!

>>548521639

Rat niggers are already complaining that they're killing people only to find out its another freekit nigger without loot.

Honestly I freekit for the first time in 75 hours yesterday, and it's disgusting. I immediately caught myself playing completely differently -knowing that I don't give a fuck if I die- and settled on trying out playing like a nigger for a couple raids. If I loaded in with a stitcher or kettle I was racking up kills but in the end not really extracting a whole lot with my gains.

I don't think the idea of freekits is bad, in fact its great. The problem is you can spawn in with one of two A+ tier guns for playing like a nigger.

>>548522353
ah we found the schizo everyone is talking about

>>548522135
>Do these people feel any remorse or shame? They must right
They don't, you'll see them post "it's just a videogame"
probably the same people who jack off to loli and go "ITS JUST A DRAWING"

like yeah, but inherently they are jacking off to a little
inherently they are being sociopath in a game wiht proximity chat

>>548522389
>reddit spacing
>moralfagging about not acting "like a nigger"
pottery

>>548521790
>retarded hyperbole
Except it's literally true you fucking retard? They've arguably overbuffed a lot of stratagems now, but during peak Swede nerf hell most of them were completely useless. Anti-Tank weaponry struggled to kill tank enemies, the 500kg couldnt kill shit further than a metre from impact, railgun was the tickle machine, all sentries were made of paper and more likely to kill players than enemies, mechs were so weak that they'd randomly explode over any damage, etc.
>harmless jokes
I distinctly remember multiple community managers smugly telling players they can just leave if they don't like the changes (everyone stopped playing)

>>548519061
You seem pretty upset by this. N did someone comment on your profile, anon?

>>548522504
Doesn't this reflect poorly on them in real life though? Like, could you use their actions in this game to judge their character in real life?

>>548522820
>judging someone on the content of their character
That's pretty racist of you

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>>548522504
>dies in a video game
>they're probably a pedo

A lot of sociopaths finding out their sociopaths

>went in with a green shield and my trusty suppressed burletta 2
>this puts me reliably in a lower gearscore lobby
>people are cooperating and just running around being cool
>someone kills a chungger who i saw earlier
>he runs up to loot him
>burletta him to death
>revive the other dude
>go on my way
>loot four unopened security lockers and leave with 70k inventory
kino

>griefing
>bullying
>sociopaths
The game literally incentivizes this behavior by design. They even have daily quests.
Get a grip yo.

>>548522585
>Except it's literally true you fucking retard?
never was lol, what happened is that the highest difficulties were balanced to have an element of random unfairness so they wouldn't be instantly solved and diver equipment was balanced around cooperation, team reloading, resupplying, actively covering weaknesses, etc. what happened was that they fucked up and let some overtuned equipment that allowed you to brainlessly solo D9 through immediately and once people tasted that they never let go of it
>I distinctly remember multiple community managers smugly telling players they can just leave if they don't like the changes
this is literally the most reasonable thing for a developer to tell members of a community who are telling them to revamp their entire game into something entirely different lol, which is what happened in the end. launch railgun would be viewed as mediocre in current helldivers

>>548523319
based

>>548523404
i never did and never will do a quest that is at odds with my morals
id rather stop playing or not play agame at all

>>548523404
come on dude shooting someone in the back while their helpless during extract is sketch af

>>548523404
>can't design good pve
>"what if we added welfare so antagonistic niggers create the conflict we can't?"
>profit?
I guess we'll see

>>548522585
I remember when the thorny plants you step on on planets could blow the exosuits arms off
people still mald in /hdg/ about the buffs to this day

>>548523732
people mald in there both ways, it's all BUFFTRANNIES and NERFTRANNIES in there. trannies trannies trannies all day
nobody is happy about the game though go figure!

This game should have one good feature from call of duty dmz, where even if you full die and can have your loot taken you have the ability to wait/ask for support to get revived back and a chance to get revenge. It was fun before cod dmz turned into PvP only and I think this game could benefit from it

is this whole thread just fake pve only carebears baiting fake pvp backstabbing ratniggers?

Hello I don't like how the rest of you play the game and I'm going to say so over and over again every day and samefag replies to myself if necessary.

>>548523902
its pretty normal to talk about desu. the game is very socially dynamic

>>548523404
The fact that those pissant feats are the only direct pvp incentive in the game and kosfags desperately cling to it will always be funny

The sociopaths didn't like that one

>>548524067
"it's not that deep bro"
>every low iq nigger ever

>>548523840
I think helldivers has a uniquely autistic fanbase of dorks who play nothing else and will never ever be happy with the state of the game
the swigger devs do not help though

Do we know if all the maps are getting snow or just some?

>>548523429
>this is literally the most reasonable thing for a developer to tell members of a community
Telling your fans to stop playing is literally the the exact opposite of what community managers are supposed to do, retard, which is why the game was put on life support soon after release and they HAD to revamp the game if they wanted to stay alive. All they had to do was meet fans half way instead of doing the polar opposite of what most of the playerbase wanted.

>>548524259
Arc is gaining the same YouTube short/TikTok engagement bait fanbase who suck the devs dick, say cod is bad, and then they all leave in 2 months because they don’t play video games and got filtered, and then they blame sweats or streamers or some boogey man why the games not fun

>>548515962
>What is wrong with the fags who play this game?
That they kill unsuspecting players who worked for their loot with 5 Stitcher shots.

>>548523623
it would have worked better if high tier loot wasn't trash, although that probably explains why pvpfags are so excited when they find a venator on someone

>>548524546
they literally said "a game for everyone is a game for no one" and expressed, more than once, that they hadn't intended to get a mass appeal audience, they wanted a weirdo masochistic milsimmer audience. community response was fury and ignoring slash immediately forgetting they said this
do you think developers should just change their game for the sake of lowest common denominator at all times???

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Carebears are too emotional to be realistic or objective.
I have 100 successful extracts ingame and I've been "griefed" at extract by someone pretending to be friendly only once.
You see the same pattern with PvE server players on a game like WoW. They justify playing on a neutered version of the game because "if I don't I'll get ganked and corpse camped!"
Like bro no one is going to waste their time camping you for hours.
If you're dying a ton at extracts, maybe you should alter your behavior when it comes to extracting?
Try not to blow things out of proportion.

>>548524608
I hate gaming now it’s fotm losers who pump numbers up and then leave in a month

>>548524863
you say that but the only fun part of wow was camping multiple scrubs as a rogue til 5am

>>548523404
Really sad you guys defend that behavior. No wonder you're here. Friendless dickless fuckless faggot little loser. Reevaluate your life

Emotional.

>>548523404
no it doesnt

safepockets are a thin, have fun with green items you could have looted yourself?

>>548525303
If you have safepockets why are you mad? Self owned.

Game needs (or rather, could use) RuneScape or Division style PVP. Areas of the map where you literally can not fight someone, but don't have the best loot. These areas would be for questing, collecting ARC gear, getting minimal supplies (so you are forced to pay for equipment or find it during PVP), and with exits that need keys (or else forced to go to PVP extract areas). Or if it was more like Division you need to go into the game and "go rogue" which alerts others to your danger-status and lets you fight.

People that don't want to do PVP never will. I actually love and enjoy the PVP; but I don't enjoy getting ratted by some fag with a stitcher because it's the most broken gun in the game.

>>548523404
>They even have daily quests.
That you don't have to do to afk max the deck.
Alternatively, that you can simply do them in ways that don't adversely set others back if you actually cared about that; just shoot/down them as the extract is closing, or down them in the extract but don't knock them out.
A person engaging in PVP has to intentionally go out of their way to actually set people back (knock them out), and nothing in the game requires that or gives them an "excuse" to do so. If their guns are higher rarity than the PVPer's they're likely objectively worse unless he has a hairpin/rattler/arpeggio. They likely do not have the scrap he actually needs. Anything of actual value to the PVPer, like blueprints or deadlines or wolfpacks or snap hooks, are most likely squirreled up their ass unless they're loaded to the gills. And if they have something like a hullcracker, what is he gonna do, steal it and then leave it forever in his stash to rot because it's useless for his gimmedat behavior?
Which then leaves things like ammo and unsecured quick slot items. Wow, congrats killer, you got bandages and shield chargers and high-tier augs with med+ shields. Things that you will never be hurting for anyways.

>>548525115
>>548524863
But wow has dedicated pvp servers and opt in pvp
if you look at pvp server distribution its always skewed way out of balance for either side, there wasnt a single balanced server
if you didnt want to pvp you didnt have to and most pvp players picjed the server where they were already a majority...

noticing a trend in people playing online games who say "that's hilarious" but in the most deadpan emotionless voice of all time. what's going on there

>>548524094
Just to play devil's advocate: the game does unironically need niggers, and it knows it. They couldn't launch as PvE, and added the FFA mechanic to make things more interesting. Now the compelling aspects of the game are derived from social interactions, and these are easily gamed, and they are. The game asks you to attack other players. The game offers better loot on maps with constrained extraction options. The game will drop you into those maps when the match is half done. The game asks you to loot downed raiders. The game encourages gear exploitation instead of progression. I could go on all day, but the point is that the developers want the nigger behavior, because it hides their poor game design. What the developers did NOT expect (or want) was for the community to be so communal. A collaborative PvE experience was the game Arc Raiders already failed to be. Do not fault niggers for playing the game as intended. They are doing what they do best (what they're told.)

>>548525407
>sociopath response
LMAO
can't even make this shit up

obviously I'm mad because I got betrayed by another real life person who can hear me talking on mic
sometimes they even pretend to be friendly and shoot you in the back

you wouldn't understand if you're a sociopath, you have to be able to put yourself in other people shoes with their personality, if you wanted to truly get it

>>548517298
>tempest
>1.5x headshot modifier
>barely faster than a fucking kettle with a 2.5x headshot modifier
>10 times as expensive
It's worse anon. It's worse.

>>548525620
You're just the same kind of autist who hated people typing "lol" online when they were not in fact, laughing out loud

How would you nerf the stitcher to put it in line with the other grey guns? I'd probably cut the default magazine by 5 and also give it more damage falloff outside of point blank range

first black guy on the mic i run into in a few days, and the second he starts talking to me his fire alarm beeps

>>548525743
It's almost like asking them to imagine not eating breakfast when they already did.

>>548525665
pretty much this

>>548525665
Having waves of niggers rushing you might actually be fun if they weren't such a drain and trying to be the lucky sixth one to finally drain your survivability dry wasn't an infinite upside due to having zero downside.
I agree that the game NEEDS it to be fun, but the elements that demand cooperation need complimentary mechanics that discourage/disincentivize/punish it while still allowing the potential of it to exist.

>>548525892
A smoke detector and a fire alarm are different things

>>548525891
I think the damage falloff is all you need. The stitcher is the only real spray n pray gun in the game. It should be a face melter, but it shouldn't be so effective beyond shotgun ranges against players. It should retain it's normal capabilities against ARC. Trying to get that snitches get stitches trophy with damage falloff would blow.

>>548525891
yea something like that sounds good.

>>548525891
Lower headsot damage to 2x
Reduce mag count by 5

>>548525891
>nerf mag
>nerf bullet velocity
>increase damage falloff
>make the tier 1 even shittier (recoil?)
>make weapon upgrades more expensive
>decrease firerate
>decrease damage by 1?
Pick a combination of these until it's shit enough.

>>548526398
This may be an obvious tip, but just deal the finishing blow with the stitcher. Same with that early "blow a hornet up with snap/trigger" quest, it's way easier if you soften it up with something else first.

I'm a nice guy in this game but I dropped the carebear stuff for the most part. I tell people to leave me alone if they don't have a mic and I will shoot first if they follow me or act shady. You just can't afford to take a risk when TTK is so low

>>548525839
the kettle has a 2.5 headshot modifier? doesn't it already kill in like 13 bodyshots??
jesus dude wtf, and people try to argue that free kits are so poor and handicapped

>>548526636
Chap with just the goggles on.

>>548525440
i disagree but the carebears always win this argument and the studio will always pander to them because they outnumber the PvPers 10,000:1. Tarkov bent the knee, along with virtually every other 'extraction' game on the market.

>>548526647
Meant for >>548526379
Much apolocheese, I'm retarded

>>548526275
>>548525665
You’ll also see more straight up killing once everyone is done with missions and are kitted out. Extraction games with no forced wipes devolve into this btw and frankly it’s still too early for us to complain over it


I also expect a scav update and PvP arena update too

>>548526636
Chap when they bother to model the flesh color on the gloves

>>548526636
amongus guy is my favorite to get murdered by. Can't hate a moonman running around with a revolver.

>>548526785
Tarkov bent the knee since hackers ruined PvP and tarkov originally was meant to appeal to the STALKER crowd but devolved into something else entirely


Embark want PvP they expect you to perform PvP but didn’t expect this heckin wholesome anti PvP sentiment to form

>>548520952
Funny how you conveniently forgot to mention the lying and deliberate lack of transparency in their patch notes, openly insulting the playerbase, trying to balance around bugs in they game that they dont understand, their inability to whittle away the bug list without creating more bugs every update, shipping non-functional untested content every update.

They are just as responsible for the current state of the game and they community as the community is. They nerfed the railgun because it was bugged and they didnt understand that, they left the mech suit non functional for 6 months due to a "bugfix", they nerfed the shrapnel gun by removing its shrapnel, they nerfed fire because of a bug they didnt understand 2 days before the first major fire themed warbond came out. If their nerfs werent always so drastic and being done for the wrong reasons people would not be so opposed to nerfs.

guys I'm too scared to use my stuff, what do

I wish the rattler was better, I like those kinds of guns. even fully upgraded it's still only okay

>>548527319
You'll get over that. Rather the fear of losing your stuff it'll be replaced with rage over the bullshit reason you lost it

>>548527319
Dump it all in the project

>>548527128
Yes but embark will kneel to the Care Bears this is their first hit game

>The finals

Nigga no one cared about the finals they are arc only now and the president is like some faggot who ruined battlefield too

>>548526684
Ferro 2.5x
Hairpin 2.5x
Kettle 2.5x
Rattler 2.0x
Stitcher 2.5x

Anvil 2.5x
Arpeggion 2.0x
Burletta 2.5x
Il Toro 1.0x

Osprey 2.0x
Renegade 2.25x
Torrente 2.0x
Venator 2.5x

Bettina 2.0x
Bobcat 2.0x
Tempest 1.5x
Vulcano 1.0x

Equalizer 2.0x
Jupiter 2.0x
Aphelion ?x

As you can see every meta weapon has a 2.5x headshot modifier (excluding hairpin) or close to it (renerade).
Osprey (a fucking sniper) having 2.0x headshot cracks me up too.

>>548527319
either just sell or >>548527394 or realise that it's totally worthless so you may aswell use it and lose it

>get torrente blueprint
>take it into raid
>kill ~15 arc (mostly wasps/hornets)
>it fucking breaks
is that a bug? I only put like 400 bullets through it wtf

>>548527128
Yeah pve tarkov only blew up cause of hackers I honestly think embark wanna keep pvp a thing

>>548527128
>Embark want PvP they expect you to perform PvP but didn’t expect this heckin wholesome anti PvP sentiment to form

You're right that Embark clearly and decisively wanted Raiders to be a PvP game first, but where your argument is sloppy is that they didn't expect their game to be coopted by PvErs. The combat against the bots is legitimately groundbreaking and 'fun', ALL player progression is from killing bots, there is no player progression from doing pvp.

>>548527128
>Embark want PvP they expect you to perform PvP but didn’t expect this heckin wholesome anti PvP sentiment to form

if this were true they wouldn't have put a bunch of achievements, means, and incentives for you to team up. matriarchs literally exist to force you to team up with other squads for a big reward. the game was initially a pve co-op game that they shoved PVP into to make it more fun. there is no way that they are even slightly surprised that the game has players who want to pve

>>548527132
>balancing the game around the bugs instead of fixing the bugs
>fixing those bugs months later makes X thing overpowered as shit
>ignore it, powercreep and the destruction of core mechanics and challenge ensues
>repeat ad nauseum
Pretty much

>>548527319
>guys I'm too scared to use my stuff, what do
why? pinks are garbage compared to greys anyways. use the shitty pinks and then once you lose them, just keep pumping out level 4 greys.

>>548527442
How do kettle and stitcher have more of a precision bonus than Rattler, Arpeggio and even the fucking lever action

>>548527319
Get the ability to open security lockers, go to the companion map website and realise just how easy getting loot is.

>>548527442
why do so many of the spray and pray guns have high headshot modifiers? seems like it should be other way around

>>548527887
>>548527827
There are still missions around killing/looting raiders too tho it’s just the added mental game

>>548527132
they made a lot of mistakes during dev but the focus on the community was on nerfs, not bugs or design problems. as far as the community was and still is concerned, the biggest problem with the game is that there are guns that don't contribute to power creep
i don't really care if a dev insults parts of the community that I can't stand and if you agreed with them you would feel the same.

>>548526845
>it’s still too early for us to complain over it
I disagree in the sense that it's only a matter of time before the game hits that critical point where the ratio of friendly to hostile drops to where the flawed balance makes it a turn off for 90% of the player base, but it hasn't happened YET and could potentially be averted.
Theoretically, it seems possible. Raider v raider TTK needs to be cranked up across the board, regardless of how. And a permanent worthwhile resource sink to give people a reason to give a shit about engaging with the PvE mechanics at all; the less people that need bastion and bombardier and queen/matriarch cores, the worse things will get.
But after typing that out it reads like the equivalent of "dear Santa, for christmas I only want mommy and daddy to un-divorce", an impossible needle to thread. So maybe the genre is cursed to forever be fotm slop.

>>548527975
kettle you could argue is a semi auto that has bullet velocity issues with early versions so it getting precision bonuses is reasonable

I have no fucking idea about the stitcher

T b h I think in the future they might add more “home bases” I think it’s kinda odd everyone goes back to Speraza cause in lore wouldn’t raiders begin to know who kills other raiders? Like imagine a bandit faction where they go to a specific home base while speraza is for good raiders

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no kit > free kit

>>548527975
>>548528015
Because the weapon balance is fucking garbage in this game.
Headshot modifiers need to be around 1.5x or 1.35x with exceptions to shotguns at 1.0x and dedicated precision weapons having 2.0x or slightly lower for things like Arpeggio or Renegade.
Buff shield deflection a little alongside it and TTK is fixed.

>>548528358
Something like a rogue agent system would be useful

>>548527739
It's a feature. Higher rarity guns are meant to break faster.
Despite also requiring more costly materials to fix, and in greater quantities.
You rike?

>>548528515
I have such great luck with naked runs

>>548528358
I was confused too like if everyone lives in speraza wouldn’t people catch on who is a bandit and who isn’t?

>>548528358
An actual legit bandit system would be interesting as Speraza is mostly for good guy raiders who pve while the bandits are clearly a holes lookin to PvP

>>548528681
Been saying this since day 1

>>548528358
having a reputation system or factions would diminish the effect of every person just being an ambiguous "stranger" which I've heard some people say they would vocally dislike

i don't hate the idea of a true faction system in a game like this. but not in this game i think

>>548528358
I dont think anyone in Toledo gaf about dudes who get killed topside, it's just part of the job description hence why nobody wants to do it.

>>548528681
It’s implied other places exist and some humans still live on the surface too a “bandit town” would be an interesting thing especially for roleplay

>remove pvp because muh lore

>>548527442
Arpeggio has a 2.75x modifier

>>548528681
Wait until you realize there is absolutely nothing in-universe justifying how being "knocked out" isn't a death sentence given the timed death-by-orbital-bombs timer.
"Wow John, every time you go out to raid, like 3 more people than usual never make it back. At this rate our population will lose the ability to sustain itself in like a week and mass extinction will happen. Any idea why that is?"

>>548529089
I’m saying you can enforce more pvp with muh lore but go off

>>548520952
holy glazediver, the initial nerf that started the entire shitshow was the railgun nerf which was in response to a console-only random glitch that allowed the arc thrower & rail gun to one shot bile titans.

Stuns & fire status were host dependent for years, to the point that people genuinely made fire and arc builds viable until they "corrected" it (see unfucked their stupid spaghetti code).

Arrowhead doesn't even know what game they've coded, let alone its gameplay philosophy. They're just lucky they struck gold but they've completely pissed away all that goodwill like >>548527132 said

>>548528515
maybe I should try this. just go in with some stims

>>548529140
Anvil spreadsheets were mistaken in the first 2 versions, now updated to 2.0x as every other site has it.
https://www.anvil.work.gd

>>548526275
Okay, I like this idea of incentivizing collaboration instead of punishing niggers (since we know they can take a beating and don't respond well to punishment.) Let's focus on collaborative mechanics. I'll start.

Bond System: when you ping another raider in proximity, you have the option of offering them a bond. The bond forms an ad hoc party within the lobby. It allows party chat between players so prox comms are not forced for impromptu collaborators. It gives the other player the party dot so you don't shoot them by accident, but friendly fire stays on so the social tension remains. You can still stab each other in the back, but now the collaboration can be gamed. If you regularly kill or damage your collaborators, you will gain a reputation for it. Other players can see your reputation when they ping you (even from far away.) After each match the game will ask you to rate the players you formed a bond with. This system can bestow titles based on various aspects of gameplay. Do you avenge the deaths of others? Gain the avenger title. Do you seek out and kill players with low reputation scores? Gain the headhunter title. Do you rate your collaborators fairly so the system can sustain itself? Gain the judge title and let everyone know that you're fair (but not necessarily friendly.) This would allow for the roving gangs that form to stay a little more organized and incentivize social interactions with higher ideals than 'gibzmedat.' The displayed title will always default to your most heinous crimes, so once you tarnish your word (which is your bond) the only fix is to expedition and start with a fresh reputation. The reputation reset should be optional so that players can carry good or bad karma through expeditions if they want. Maybe even show a counter that reveals how many expeditions it has been since a player has reset their reputation for even greater credibility.

>>548528681
We only know that (You) are from Speranza and that there's something of a neutral/rival settlement in Toledo. Also a lot of raider infighting. One of the PA system announcements says something along the lines of "If there's no work for you downstairs then you can go upstairs and get shot by bandits" Some of the set descriptions also list them as clearly belonging to hostile raiders.

>>548529089
Bandit faction would probably enforce pvp though? Oh wait you just don’t want easy identification that your bandit when you gank someone

>>548528590
it's gear based matchmaking
you load in naked and like at least 5 other people will also be naked and you get gamer dads being friendly

you load in with good loot and you get put with the sweatiest most silent rabid pvp brains out there, including the 15 freekits planning to camp loot rooms and extracts

>>548523429
>equipment was balanced around cooperation, team reloading, resupplying, actively covering weaknesses, etc.
me when i'm talking out of my ass online

My biggest issue with the game is that the crafting / loadout selection workflow feels like total ASS

>>548517457
wrong, Tempest is good.

otherwise you are correct.

>>548529089
I don’t get people who ignore the story aspect in online games, I’m just asking a question on why and the game expects you to read the story too

>>548529354
This sounds pretty cool and still puts the power entirely in the community's hands rather than some sort of nanny game system mechanics.
Which means they will never do something like it. If they do I will cook and eat a baseball cap and post it.

>>548526549
>decrease damage by 1
i think this is the most elegant fix. no need for massive fine tuning, just decrease the damage by 1. a full mag with all hits is 20 less damage. thats the difference between dying without any ability to really counterplay and at least surviving for them to have to reload.

>>548529234
>the initial nerf that started the entire shitshow was the railgun nerf which was in response to a console-only random glitch that allowed the arc thrower & rail gun to one shot bile titans.
holy revisionist nonsense, the problem with it was that it literally did everything solo and with relative ease. overpenned bot tanks and blew them up. killed chargers in a few legshots. killed hulks in a faceshot. overpenned bot tower guns and killed them. could whittle down a bile titan solo if it had to. critically, it was not only easier to use with good ergonomics than anti tank but it had a mobile reload so you could run away with your trusty bubble shield and get all the fodder off of you before you continued fighting. the nerf made it somewhat worse at anti tank because it was far and away the best support weapon in the game it wasn't about some secret gaffe lmao

If you're a pure pve player, how often are you actually getting murdered by or shot at by other players? A common theory is that there is a hidden "karma" matchmaking mechanic.

>>548529703
Even the Vulcano? I've never even seen a Tempest in my 100 hours of gameplay.
I got the fucking Aphelion and Wolfpack blueprint before I even seen that gun. The Bobcat too.

>>548517878
It's a PvE game where halfassed imbalanced PvP was added at the last minute.

>>548529354
So how COD dmz did it?

Good idea but here’s the issue. Cods system was good but abused because at max you had 3 player squads with a bond system (ask other people to join the team in game) you could get 6 man squads so what happened was people would form 6 man super squads and wipe a lobby to keep all the loot

>>548529394
If that were true, why am I still being rushed by 10+ freeniggers if I carry a high value loadout into matriarch and actually use it? Their loadout value is about as low as it can possibly get.

>>548529553
it just was but ok, i understand that you tried team reloading once, got overrun, and swore to never ever try it ever again because you don't lose in pve

>>548529703
the tempest kicks too much and is pretty much the worst of both worlds. Not good at long ranges, not good at cqc and you might as well keep using a stitcher at midrange, too.

ive literally found 5 wolfpack bp's fuck my nigger life i dont need that shit

>>548529971
Yeah you could abuse this system and I played COD DMZ as well it was a useful system for saving people but was abused by pvpers

>any weapon above blue is a waste of time to craft
>heavy shields are an active detriment
Epic swedish game design

>>548530048
Team reloading reduces your squad's overall DPS, locks two people into place to be instagibbed, and requires someone to give up all their ammo to someone else. Nobody ever did it anon

>>548530215
can I have one?

>>548529703
>vs a Medium shield
>Tempest
>body TTK 1.3s
>head TTK 0.87s
>Kettle
>body TTK 1.55s
>head TTK 0.64s
These calculations are for 460RPM kettle, an extremely average number for a joe, faggots with proper macros can do upwards of 700.
So please, shut the fuck up.

>>548529971
I never played DMZ, but what you're describing sounds much better than what we have now. I would rather try to run a server with organized murderhobos than fight the endless freegro horde by myself.

>>548529897
As a PvE focused person, if I assume a karma influence does exist and it's not entirely coincidence, it seems that even defending yourself is penalizing enough to drop you into the codzone. Turning a hostile encounter around and knocking the faggot out seemingly leading to a higher rate of similar encounters in future matches.
If that were true, then just letting them cull you like cattle a few rounds in a row would push you the other direction.

>>548530048
The game is a solo game that you occasionally get to experience with 3 other players. Other than team-reloading which lowers your team's DPS and exposes you to 1-shot AOE attacks, there's literally nothing incentivizing players to group up except for the resupply pod lol, thanks for admitting that you never play the game though.

>>548530547
Yeah shit was fun as fuck lol but cods issue was it had no loot so everyone was pvping at the end

Solo lobbies are where you actually get materials and gear
Duo + Trio lobbies are where you use these materials in an endless deathmatch

>>548530452
works on my machine

>>548530595
It's Raiders Encountered vs Damage Dealt to Raiders

>>548529897
About every three matches I'm getting shot at, out of those, it's fifty-fifty if they successfully kill me. Not sure about karma, since I've only ever downed 3 people, 2 of which completely ambushed me. I will say it correlates with when I bring in a better kit though. Kitted anvil, sticher, w/ medium shield? Almost 100 percent chance people will try and KOS me.

I would give less of a shit about KOS people if I could fucking SEE them. The weird eye adjustment thing means they can camp in a dark corner and I literally cannot see them at all, which forces me to play like there's literally a person in every corner.

>>548529872
Just buff the other lackluster anti-tank options and reduce the railgun's ammo count holy shit, back then it was an end-game stratagem no wonder it was good.
>because it was far and away the best support weapon in the game it wasn't about some secret gaffe lmao
Oh okay you're just lying, nevermind

>>548526636
Ombra

>>548530679
Imagine banding together with other raiders to exterminate rats so you can actually fight a matriarch. Imagine knowing that the guy who shot you in the back for that aphelion BP will at least have your blood on his hands until the next expedition. I really see no downsides vs what we have now.

why are people talking about helldivers? I keep thinking I'm on the wrong browser tab

>Redditors dont want gear buffed because supposedly high geared players will camp spawns and shit on newbies
>Every person who tried to KoS me or did KoS me was a grey gear and/or freenig
hmmmmmmmmm

>>548530771
I could believe this

>>548522389
The matchmaking is based on both party size and gear. If you're a freenigger you're going to be matched with other freenigs.

>>548530547
Yeah call of duty’s extraction mode had like “friendly” things where you could also revive full death players but people realized you could abuse it into 6 man rape squads

>>548530470
what ya got to trade :^)

>>548522389
freeniggers should only have access to hairpins. I don't think this can be refuted. No grenades either.

>>548530674
>game launched with borderline no medium pen primaries so medium pen/heavy pen duty went to support weapons
>it was a regular complaint that you didn't know what seed you were getting dumped into because if you went into a D9 mission with an RR and it was spewers rather than heavy armor you were in deep shit and your team had to cover for you
practically a lot of people just went in with four autocannons because they did everything "well enough" but the game only became a "solo game where three guys are around" as a result of player feedback wanting it to be that

>>548530834
>Oh okay you're just lying, nevermind
???
>it was an end-game stratagem
?????????????????

>>548530771
I think this is correct. It seems the key is to not engage with the PVP at all. The game is trying to put the fighters and flighters in separate lobbies so the pvp lobbies will at least have people who will fight back.

>>548531090
I think rattler would be okay if they got a weaker, shittier shield as well. Or if medium and especially heavy shield resistances were buffed.

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>>548525620
zoomer's dopamine receptors have been burnt to a crisp. first gen in human history to not be capable of feeling true joy or humor etc

>>548531062
nothing really
3 bastion cores and 100 seeds?

I don't think Embark consider all the chronically unemployed as their target audience, like people say this is 'Tarkov for the employed' I'd rather be fed content at a steady rate while keeping it engaging then just releasing things every week.

>>548530967
someone asked about what happened to helldivers in regards to why embark doesn't communicate more and it is controversial

>>548531546
They’ll appeal to tryhards of the finals is anything to compare to

>>548530595
going afk a couple rounds might work too

>>548530771
so my habit of hiding from everyone is putting me in lobbies with other people like me? that might explain why I rarely see other players now

>>548525891
I'd have it receive a penalty vs shields.

>>548531682
thats interesting Im the same way. All we can really do is speculate

>the only friend who's good at PVP wants to just do Blue Gate tiktok route loot runs for 200 games in a row

God I hate minmaxers

>>548528681
>I was confused too like if everyone lives in speraza wouldn’t people catch on who is a bandit and who isn’t?
It makes sense once you realize that this is a pve game where pvp was a sloppy late addition

>>548531956
So it’s like hunt? Would the truly be popular without PvP that’s the question

>>548529569
It needs templates or something like it. Let me create a loadout template with a couple guns, herbal bandage, shield recharger etc and craft or buy it with one button.

>>548531227
Thank you for conceding

>>548531682
>be a hider
>have to defend myself a few times
>get put into lobbies with castle doctrine "if you don't announce that you're in the building I will counter-gank you" cowboys
>karmic equivalent of elo hell unless you die unresisting

Reminder that you are WRONG about the TRUE EHP of shields. And thats a good thing!

https://youtu.be/cxKMsVo8dg4?si=5NQf7EsuFV5f1jVh

>>548532272
honestly though what the fuck was going through your head when you said "end-game stratagem"
do you actually seriously think that "you unlock gun late mean it better than everything else" makes sense in a game like that because if you do I'm embarrassed that I engaged with you

>every subway attacker in a movie is a clean cut young white man
>in reality its blacks every single time

>>548531103
>human psychology is to always default to the swiss army knife option when little to no information is given about an upcoming challenge multiple times in a row
Swedes are so fucking dumb

>>548532438
>use the faggot calculator
>shields break
>EHP goes from 130 to 60
Shut the fuck up

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>>548531682
>ratting on Stella to wait out a key room
>wait until 5 minutes left
>haven't seen a soul all match
>slowly approach and loot key room
>2 minutes left
>extract on other side of map
>quickly and quietly work my way to extract
>map dead quiet the whole way there
>arrive at seed vault air shaft with 30 seconds left on the clock
>call extract
>no less than 6 other guys come crawling out of the woodwork with their mics on
>"hey, can we leave too?"
>mfw
>we all laugh and rizz while the shaft opens and leave
Sometimes this game is so special

>>548530771
if there is indeed some kind of karma system it seems to work desu

What public communication do you require?
Are you really waiting day to day expecting some sort of revelation about a PvE-only mode?

>>548529142
Wait wait your telling me knocking out isn’t just full death but you are legit knocked out and make it back to Speraza since you just got ganked? That’s so stupid lol

>>548532442
You sound so bothered lmao, yes the railgun was 50k req and at the bottom of the support weapon tree, it just follows logically that it would be some sort of endgame strat, kind of like the fucking mechs that are somehow made of paper

>>548532438
>single, simple subject
>25 minute video

nope

>>548532583
no Im just backstabbing people as a freenigger to ruin the game

>>548532680
there's no endgame stratagems that's not how the game works or has ever worked I shouldn't have to tell you this
goodbye

>>548530968
you weren't supposed to notice that

I love that he explains that
>ermmm ahcktually that EHP is way higher than previously thought
and all the numbers equate to one more anvil shot or 2 more stitcher bullets.
wow, pink shields are amazing thank you retard.

>full inventory again after near empty from expedition prep
guess its time to do some pvp

>>548532805
You get shot at a lot?

>>548532859
the stitcher is a separate problem and being able to tank one more anvil shot is pretty huge

>>548532583
Some clarification regarding the expedition would be nice.

>>548532912
not many people shoot back, black ryders with the balaclava always try to get the drop on me though, I never pick anything up though and when I run out of ammo I just kill myself

DON'T SHOOT

>>548532583
i want to know how much money i need to have saved up for the expedition and i would like for that to be communicated more than a week in advance

>>548533001
>the stitcher is a separate problem and being able to tank one more anvil shot is pretty huge
not when its only one more than the shittiest shield and the game and blue and pink both take the same amount of anvil shots, 4.

>>548528515
Where did you go to find the wolfpack bp? I still have yet to find one, meanwhile I have 4 bettina and jolt mine bps, it's saddening.

>>548527906
>jumping forward with the rr allowed it to oneshot charges to the head
oh it was so funny

>>548532859
>faggot calculator assumes your shields never lose charge
Heavy shields are only useful if you can keep them always charged, which you can only afford in trios with competent teammates.
With how initiative works in solos/duos they might as well not be doing anything.

>>548533001
As long as you can get magdumped without much effort heavy shields will remain dogshit. It's not only for the stitcher, it's for every automatic weapon in the game. Most low-rof high-damage weapon breakpoints improve when you wear a medium shield, not a heavy shield.

>>548532837
Yikes, thanks for revealing your true colors nerftroon

>>548533148
How often do people shoot at you first?

>>548532618
Yeah. The game cannot depict death, it'd lose the ESRB T rating. The closest thing you get is the door asian going
>"this patch was... me mum's... she dieded in the ark attacks..."
>fmv of matriarch rocket landing next to group of Raiders
>camera cuts to completely different area with multiple flares rising in the distance

>sitting at a comfortable rank 4 or something about halfway through the week
>check again yesterday just for fun
>now at rank 28 or something, only 1 promotion
>grind out some shit yesterday night an hour before reset
>finish at rank 20 for 2x promote
heh

>>548533531
>no nerf only buff
Go back

>>548533620
That is so lame. I wish there was blood. Blood splatters across the wall as you blast someone with a shotgun. More death poses too.

>>548533576
somewhere between 20% and 40% of people depending on which map

>>548532618
>>548533620
So wait what happens when you shoot a full down raider…they just are sleeping? Lmao I never put it all together but wait what happens if a knocked out raider is in the open and an arc is patrolling?

>>548534126
>what happens if a knocked out raider is in the open and an arc is patrolling
ARC doesn't aggro on you if you are knocked

>>548533721
>game experience has to match my life's misery
silver lining is that HD2 seems to be dying for real, it's pre-warbond day today and there's not much activity lmao, good riddance

I still feel kinda bad for what I did to this one bro who taught me a spot on spaceport for killing leapers and shit like 2 weeks ago. We teamed up and took down some heavy arc from a security shed and when he was looting I blew him away. Betraying someone after a simple "hey I'm friendly" is one thing and idc, betraying someone after 8 minutes of chilling and getting to know them hits different. Sorry leaper bro I just wanted to know if I could/what it felt like. It wasn't worth it

>>548528681
You would think so but fashion is very important in Speranza, hence why literally every NPC is wearing the same ~20 outfits that are in the store.
So it probably wouldn't actually be easy to identify someone

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>>548533576
this guy just shot me first, literally never even saw him peek, I just rushed him with a smoke and the hammer
black ryder but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, because I was going to kill him anyway

>>548534126
It's like war thunder where the crew only ever gets "knocked out" when they get skullfucked by 120mm APFSDS

>>548534126
It's never established or addressed narratively. The canon begins and ends at "you get back home somehow and Lance fixes you, idk lol"

>>548533396
The forward momentum breakpoint was patriotic af and you know it.

>>548534126
those armour piercing rifle rounds are actually just stun rounds

>>548534425
>>548534216
I kinda regret getting invested in the story and asking questions if they are treating the narrative like this for a fucking T rating in 2025

the fuck are these schizo theories
there is no "good boy" or "bad boy matchmaking

>>548534126
If you collapse the felynes from monster hunter come and get you, and toss you down the next shaft to sberansa

Should you turn off cross-platform regardless of platform? Well besides Xbox because no one owns one

what do you even do when you spawn in at 20 minutes

>>548528681
speranza is obviously a pretty low trust society since the gun lady is behind a solid iron door. its not a wholesome chungus superhappy sunshine place like r*ddit wants it to be.

>>548534284
>it's pre-warbond day today and there's not much activity lmao
It's as if... live service games follow a pattern based on content release dates.
It doesn't matter if the game lives or not, most of the core game mechanics have been made irrelevant or sanded down to a point where you have to go out of your way to engage with them. It's a braindead rambo shooter now, who cares.
Wake me up if they do proper modding so maybe I can cook something up.