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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>548845590

>12/03 (Wed) Update
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11402378

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
Chizuru - Psionic - Void | Starting December 3rd

>Current/Upcoming Content/Events
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026
Guardian of the Ark - Policy Event | Until December 3rd
Galactic Disaster Dispatch - Login Event | Until November 25th

>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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nyaggers
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>>548877516
Nigger
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>>548877537
hm that's racist
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O W E N
Adds a new bitch to his harem (Yuki)!
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>game EOS due to unprofitability
>CEO naked dogeza
>"in return, if you make an E7 account now we will give you loads of free rolls and freebies"
Will you play E 7?
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Are you not having fun
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>>548877583
I'm banned from E7 due to chargebacks.
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Remember /czn/ is balanced game for creative minds. Just don't look at leaderboard
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>>548877583
no because of all the missed event and exclusive rewards
only if they start a brand new server where all the stuff from 10 years can be earned will I even consider trying the game
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>>548877583
Isn't E7's gear system even more brutal than the shit popular today?
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Is there a war going on between a baker who wants a thread number and one who doesn't?
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>>548877707
you're posted in a defaced general, anon
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She wonned so hard they will now break her arms.
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>>548877462
Why does the shitposter keep removing the thread number during SEA hours?

/czn/ - Chaos Zero Nightmare General #229
/czn/ - Chaos Zero Nightmare General #229
/czn/ - Chaos Zero Nightmare General #229
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>>548877691
No its much easier to gear and farm. And most characters can pass gear to others
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>>548877583
as a rule I don't start playing games that are older than 2 years
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not this shit again
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>>548877583
>game EOS due to unprofitability
But enough about your favorite non-CZN game!
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>>548877707
thread number is to mark their izzat farm so they can check how many (you) they get
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They rather make dumb shill buff that make Yuki does almost triple damage instead of actually buff her
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>>548877767
>>548877707
First time baker, I missed the number. Sowwy bros, if I bake the next time I'll make sure to include it.
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>>548877707
>Is there a war going on between a baker who wants a thread number and one who doesn't?
There is a baker who counted the threads and then added the thread number. There are multiple bakers (probably including the guy who added the thread number) who spend the 1 second it takes to continue the thread number.

There is only one (1) retard who removes the thread numbers, and he does it during SEA hours only.
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>>548877910
don't bake with a thread number fuck them
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>>548877246
Idk how gfl works, but here's a top of my head list of things they could do in CZN that would break the current meta:
>fight that doesn't care about your damage, but is just a survival check that ends when you die
>fight where you get nasty debuffs if you don't mostly/full block damage
>thorns
>true cleave (not shitter adds, actual multi boss)
>draw penalties
>card playing penalties (StS time eater)
>some sort of heal check mechanic, although this might have an issue with Tressa getting too much free damage from heal spam
You could also do what Morimens does where bosses have phases where when you kill them they go invuln and do a phase change when you end your turn, or they get 99% damage reduction when you cross a certain HP threshold
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so it's one retard autist that just HAS to have the thread number? is that it? jesus christ
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>>548877910
Previous baker here. Don't worry about it.
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>Arguing about thread numbers now
Nice general you got here
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this is just the thread reminder shit all over again
remember to point out the correct shitposter this time
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>>548878009
>so it's one retard autist that just HAS to have the thread number? is that it? jesus christ
Nope. It's one (1) retard who removes the thread number during SEA hours.
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>>548877910
Bake a thread with the wrong number on purpose to ragebait them
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>>548877910
Don't make numbered threads.
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Its just one retarded autist who wants thread numbers all the time for no reason.
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>game so stale the general is arguing about thread vandalism
bros what happened
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holeeyyyy fuaaark chizuru is soo shittttt
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So when are they going to patch infinite scaling moves out? Why the fuck would I spend money in a game where all my units are weaker than the free story character that they give you?
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You can count on gacha retards to have no fucking idea what they are doing when they recommend shit that doesnt work
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>>548878182
Maybe because playing the game on easy mode 24/7 is boring?
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>>548878210
Nothing works with her. Shes too clunky
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Das right, I made the thread, go cry to you mama
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>>548878182
To see a new pair of tits and ass of course. It's not like chaos is competitive.
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>>548878132
>Its just one retarded autist who wants thread numbers all the time for no reason.
Nope. I'm not the anon who originally added the thread number, but I am a frequent baker. When the thread number got added, I continued it. Then I noticed that the thread number disappeared during SEA hours. I did not add the thread number back, yet the next thread I baked had the thread number on it. There are at least 2 people who continue the number that is already on the thread. There is only one (1) shitposter who removes the numbers, and he only does it during SEA hours, because he's a shitposter.
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>>548878145
For me, it's
>spend stamina
>consider throwing 50 minutes of my life away to make decks that suck
>shitpost instead
>play keeperRL after
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>>548878064
Why don't you bake the thread yourself and include the numbers then, you're obviously the only one who cares about it
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>>548878240
Isn't she in the #1 team on the JP leaderboard?
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>>548878182
they won't
its against the gacha law to nerf characters
their only option is to make more counter against those characters or just release crazier units (probably anniversary units)
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anyone saying that she is clunky has never ever played a deckbuilder
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they made chizuru shit so you fomo and buy more dupes...
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>>548878270
>you're obviously the only one who cares about it
Stop samefagging.
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>>548878276
You mean cassius tressa is number 1 on the leqderboard. You know the ones that actually keep doing shit for infinite scaling. Not this trash character. Thats not only giga shilled the retarded whale likely e6 her and still looks bad compared to a 4 star
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>>548878309
She is worse than Claw Defect
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>>548878210
>+35% crit damage for 1 cost card
Lmao
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Chizuru is not even bad what the fuck are you people talking about
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>>548878391
What's wrong with it?
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IS THIS YOUR GOAT?
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>>548878210
>jewtumor disinfo shills
water is wet
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>>548878392
Post e6 Chizuru vs e0 Mei Lin
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>>548878210
>Cthulhu weapon as recommendation
>OTK using an upgrade card that has start of the turn effect
These guys are fucking retarded
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>>548878440
Look at 2 piece crit set
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Any good or junk? I figure the deck is thin enough with the upgrades.
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>>548878256
>shitposts
>the other single dude is the sitposter, word
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>>548878210
does bro lose crit damage when the -1 cost from shibari hits the 1 cost cards?
idk if the memo frags apply to the original cost or the current cost of the cards
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>>548878125
why are you posting bricks on a /vg/ gen? this doesn't go here
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Someone help me out here, does Tressa go 2/2/2 or does Offering of the Void work on Agony?
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so the schizo is the thread number guy
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>>548878597
Stop samefagging.
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>>548878451
Looks like a typical support deck to me
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>>548878145
No shota combatant to send me pp pics on Unigram. No Owen doesn't count, he's a disgusting femboy
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>>548878631
only the cost that the card has at the time of playing it counts towards effects
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>>548878380
No it's Vero MeiLin >>548878451
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>>548878631
It's current cost
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shut the fuck up
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>>548878440
You would want to reduce her card cost to 0 before using them most of the time for maximum damage, so she won't be benefited from the set. Just use the 2-set that give 25% crit damage straight
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>>548878289
>its against the gacha law to nerf characters
Outdated unc meme. Etheria restart nerfed characters, so have other gachas.
>But that's why ER dead!
goalposts
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>>548878683
Pfft i hope you are joking with that one. Mei lin vero can do it it with a 0 card deck of anything on left side. You arent challenged on left side like you are on right. You jsut need to kill in 5 turns for max score. You dont even know how the scoring works you retard
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>>548878256
Nobody fucking cares about your autistic OCD thread numbers but you retard
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So since day 1 we had no thread number and suddenly this "Baker" Pushing it
Remind me of that fag who want to force /gfg/ reminder in the OP.
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Chizuru's gameplay feels.. tied hehehehehe
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thread number autist is losing his mind calling everyone a samefag LMAO
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>the SEApag shitposters are now constructing their own narrative about how they aren't the shitposters
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>Luke is the best teammate for Chizuru
lol...
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>>548878782
But the bind bwo
I don't actually understand what the point is, -2 AP per turn seems strictly worse than just having AP reposes, but maybe there's some other gimmick like running 8 quick shelling and he doesn't have room for the divines. Not on JP so I can't check.
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>>548878902
you need to take your meds bro, fr
you are quite literally making shit up
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>>548878839
i laughed
i laughed a lot
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Worst kind of number melty...
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>>548878654
Please stop arguing about thread numbers and help me out :(
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>>548878946
I'm just reading the thread and describing what is happening.
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>>548877983
yeah but why does every fight need to be designed with a gimmick aimed specifically to invalidate some builds or playstyles
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>>548877910
Don't make numbered threads.
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>makes a genuine thread without autistic numbers
>he's a shitposter
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>>548878937
>chink panda
kys CCP
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>>548879008
ccp runs this game and will run your country soon
bowdown
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By the way, because of last thread I went to check since I have Luke (but he wasn't built) and his bullets are common.
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so this is your goat? cheesuru fucking sucks
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>>548877782
>>548877691
Don't even think about touching E7, shit is the most cancerous PvP kusoge
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thread numba bad !
taking my meds bad !
dilating good !
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mindbroken
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>>548878998
because invalidating one or two oppressive playstyles is better than a fight that needs 1 or 2 specific playstyle instead
and a game needs to variety check you, because putting all your shit in 1 style and then rolling everything is bad design
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>>548878939
Like i said. Theres a cap on the score you can get on the left team. Everyone in the top 100 gets max score. There really no advantage to using this over something else. The only thing that these top 100 have different is the score they have on the right team. Its retarded but thats how it is. A ronoa team on left side that kills in in 5 turns will have the same score this mei lin team does.
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Where can I send the devs feedback? I need to write a very sternly worded letter about the state of the game that the leaderboards have exposed.
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>>548878182
They don't need to.
They just need to patch out competitive modes, or leaderboard modes that you see what everyone is using and that you have to use the best of the best to get rewards.
Remove any of these and people stop caring.
>proof?
Kentris 9
No one gave a fuck about Mei Lin OTKing it, hell after a time people even got bored of those
>ooo wooow ANOTHER mei lin show case so original havent seen one of these since five minutes ago
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>>548879076
I don't understand why is heal even there, yeah I'm go through gorillian hoops for one fucking pathetic heal, just give me fucking damage
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EoS soon
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>>548878998
Because only so many units can be meta if every fight has the same gimmick of "do as much damage to 1 target as fast as possible by drawing and playing your entire deck:". The point is to mix it up so people play different characters and make different types of decks instead of building the exact same MeiLin and Tressa combo every season.
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can we please hire back the team who designed launch rosters because this ain't it
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>>548879154
Why? Free units being top dogs scary?
Kill yourself hoyokek
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>>548879076
>shilled with Tressa on banner
>heal gimmick doesn't even trigger Tressa daggers
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>>548879141
no it really doesnt need variety check
the only reason you're ever forced to build 2, 3 teams and to rotate the elements around in gfl2 is so they can make more money
slay the spire for example doesn't need all these shoehorned engagement systems
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>>548879246
IT'S A GOOD THING THAT EVERY BANNER IS A SKIP CHUDDIE
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>>548879146
Yeah I just don't understand why they would use that Chizuru. Just for the meme I guess.
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>>548879197
They allocated some of her power to being a semi sufficient at healing herself so they nerf her damage cus of it. Enjoy
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yessss make chizuru op and tressa too and also mika so they nerf them and forget about my beryl-chan op queen
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>>548879204
only 11 more years left to go
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Can we get a homo banner soon? I want a unit which actually does damage and has a fun kit
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>>548879246
You know how we know that pretty much everything was scrapped by 30% cheaper nigger cocks in Dawei like 2 months before release? And that the new story had 10 writers or whatever. I wonder if it wasn't just an entire regime change rather than it being only limited to the story as previously thought.
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>>548879271
>slay the spire for example doesn't need all these shoehorned engagement systems
Slay the Spire is Nebula Distortion and Chaos, it's a PVE mode where you aren't compared to other people and a "meta" does not matter. Balance can be whatever. The "PVP" is a seeded daily run (they should 100% add that to CZN btw). It's not comparable though.
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>>548879349
The passion controller twink elf is just gonna make Mei Lin Veronica better.
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>>548879335
brother, they are going to change how retain works soon enough, dw
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>>548878680
>>548878687
so bro is a retard, got it
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>>548879491
I HOPE NOT??????
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>>548879271
Oh also the thing I forgot to address, Slay the Spire also doesn't have a savedata system. The point of a variety check is that you can in fact adapt your teams and decks to a specific savedata content. Same deal with Umamusume where you might use the same character but play the roguelike for different stat spreads and skills for every new race.
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>>548879491
How? Why? Orlea isn't even that good.
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>>548879568
>>548879606
mei lin and tressa are going to have that epiphany nerfed and smilegooks will say it was a bug, not a nerf. see: potentials activating bc of zero system stats. retain will be changed but because it effects all characters, it's not targeted at either so no getting mad, chuddie
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>>548879837
>mei lin and tressa are going to have that epiphany nerfed and smilegooks will say it was a bug, not a nerf.
Not a chance. Everyone will quit.
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I luckily got E1 Chizuru while going for E6 Rei. How impactful is E2? Or should I go for the partner? F2p btw.
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magnabwos...
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>>548879246
launch roster is the issue we are here retard
Tressa and MeiLin weren't fully tested and don't have hit/debuff limits so they end up being extremely easy to abuse via deck cycling.

This is not per se a bad thing since deckbuilders like this and slay the spire are all about making retardedly broken combos to OTKO stuff but it will inevitably end up with future content having punishment systems to counter the retard strats to avoid trivializing shit (if you play too many cards or you apply too many debuffs the boss nukes your ballsack and ends your turn)
Expect next season for the bosses to heavily punish whatever people used to cheese season 1
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zzz confirmed to have made 90mil last month, czn bucks back to the cvckshed!!!!!!!
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>>548879271
Oh 3rd post from same guy, just thought of something else.
Having variety check also means they don't have to be super stingy with balance. They can make characters with cool OP combos and not worry that it's going to potentially invalidate every other character like MeiLin and Tressa currently do with content only being the same thing, while right now if they make MeiLin but better they have the same problem as with MeiLin where everyone uses that character and it invalidates everything.
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>>548879975
i don't abuse niggerish mechanics i'll be fine so will 99% of the players you're just blanket projecting your reliance on metatranny shit neck yourself
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If they nerf Mei Lin and Tressa I won't quit, I'll top up.
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>>548880038
>Nerf an already bad character by saying it's a buff
Diabolical
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>>548880016
Not worth maybe you get spooked by her later. She seems shit
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>>548880130
Ohh, you're just upset about the leaderboards so you're creating fake scenarios in your head that you want other people to get upset about even though it's never going to happen.
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>>548880104
The issue is just the leaderboards and rewards locked behind a score directly related to damage dealt.
That's the only issue.
You don't even need to make bosses to counter those character if there is nothing to gain by abusing them, or just use current existing bosses that can check them a bit. Imagine if instead of Family Head we had the Blue Pot boss? Would be irrelevant anyway, since 9/9 bosses were just self-imposed challenges that people were doing for fun.
Remove the leaderboards and people will instantly stop caring about Mei Lin or Tressa.
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I've done 5 runs of chaos today. Every single one Mika/Veronica have unlocked all their base cards and gotten epiphanies by the time I got to the boss of exterior. Every single run Chizuru has unlocked 1-2 cards and 1 epiphany at best.
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Is Chizuru's partner a big increase? Kinda feeling like staying with Zatera on this one
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>>548880038
>>548880175
its so funny, I saw people going
>please revert to the bug
>it wasn't doing any damage anyway but at least she could be a vuln bot...
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>>548880175
this is EXACTLY what's gonna happen to mei lin and tressa's epiphanies. smilegook are going to 'buff' them
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>>548880038
>>548880175
What happened to Magna?
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Nerf card draw.
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Leaderboards really did a number on this game. The appeal of the game was that it was a deckbuilder that allowed you to make super fun and varied builds and that every team was different, but the reality is that every single unit that doesn't have 0 cost and infinite scaling damage is dogshit. The game is solved and literally has no room to evolve until they upend their garbage gameplay systems.
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what 2pc for Chizuru
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>>548880527
someone help that poor mouse!
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>>548880314
negro i'm not even engaging with that shit lmao
SEETHE
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>>548880458
Anon-chan, you don't even know what you're talking about right?
Those guys aren't even talking about Magna's epiphanies, hell SG didn't even say they were buffing Magna or talked about Magna specifically.
It was about conterattacks.
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Seasonal chaos gives a higher save than normal zero right?
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>>548880109
Did you also use AI to get those numbers?
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>>548880403
It's Mika's fault. That bitch is an epiphany magnet. She eats epiphanies like Haru eats cake.
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>>548880527
they should just add a boss that uses the ability of the fat fuck that increases cost when you aren't attacking
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>>548880549
all it did was shut the "douhhh dat brick is viable not powwacreep is good!" trannies up
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chiruzu is ok, just get morale on exhaust draw neuts
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>>548880549
Any form of competitive/esport will ruin online game
There is a reason why HSR has no ranking board and the game make $100 millions every month.
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>>548880571
it's a mouse you retardo
a hamster even
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>>548880615
no no, you're right. mei lin and tressa will stay exactly as they are until EoS :)
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>>548880664
>Chizuru x Kayron
Red pill me about this comp how's their synergy?
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https://youtu.be/Ndhr_9-ama0
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>>548880664
this was my cheesuru dick
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>>548880514
I assume counterattack eats vuln now
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>>548880549
Leaderboards expose shit devs that fail at balance. And smilegate has one of the worst balance teams
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>>548880514
not magna, but they fixed counterattacks
it was broken (not the op sense, but literal sense) and it was being counted as fixed damage (so it wouldn't get buffs)
now its not fixed damage anymore, so you can buff and increase its damage
which sounds great on paper, until you realize that now magna can eat her own vulnerabilies with her counters before her e4 (so you could play her at e0~e3, and her e4 did nothing) but now she bricks herself unless you have her e4

technically speaking, it's back to working as intended (proof being her e4 existing) but in reality just makes her feel EVEN WORSE to play (counters are still shit)
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I just finished a run with three un-upgraded copies of opening found
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>I want Yuki to be strong enough to not get mogged by literally everyone
>OH YOU ARE NIGGER WHO WANT POWERCREEP
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>>548880549
>The appeal of the game was that it was a deckbuilder that allowed you to make super fun and varied builds and that every team was different
Time traveling concernjeeter...
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>>548880549
I said this earlier and got called a pajeet.
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>>548880775
her cards are low cost and kayron can potentially help with using ap. mika is there so i dont die
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>>548880556
please reply my stam is going to cap
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>>548880885
DEVS SAID IF THERE'S 3 MOBS ON THE SCREEN SHE'S DOING 200%*3 AOE DAMAGE SO SHE'S ACTUALLY STRONG CHUD
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>>548880790
Weaker than Chizuru team.
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>>548880867
They should just turn counters int Extra Attacks.
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(You) play Tressa because she's meta. I play Luke, Renoa and Tressa because swiping stuff up really fast without thinking and making pew pew or swshh swshh noises with my mouth is fun. We aren't the same.
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>>548880653
No thanks, I'd prefer to actually be able to play my upgrades.
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>>548880830
Bad balance doesn't matter, the problem is that the objective is always draw your whole deck and blow it all on singletarget damage. Mechanics and objectives that don't feed into that gameplay will result in a different meta of characters and epiphanies.
People will always find a best strategy and there will always be a meta, it's a waste of time to try to stop that.
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>>548880924
Justified
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>>548880992
>I play Luke
kek
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We are all Indians in here thoughbeit
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>>548880935
But Kayron is AP hungry and Chizuru fucking hate AP
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how do you get tier 14? cant seem to roll it
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>>548880613
You're the one seething, lil bro. You're making up fake shit which will not happen that you want other people to be mad about.
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>>548880790
>Clear first side in 5 turns for max score
And this is why the devs are retarded, nice Yuki shill content you mongoloids. I was wondering why my score is so low when I cleared it in 2 turns with Yuki. 5 turns is literally any comp goes, so the only thing that matters is the 2nd side, which became Tressa's d*ck measuring contest
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>>548880978
>30k damage every 9 turns is better than 30k+ damage per turn actually
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Each new character should be safe from powercreep for at least 1 year.
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>>548881069
but she lowers the highest cost card by 2 bwo
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Holy shit Dellang is going to make me mute this game worst fucking change of the patch
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Tressa is the main character of this game
Stop coping and build her
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Why are there no playable little girls in czn? Gooks are really only into cowtits huh
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>>548881178
you SHAN'T be muting my drunken demon shopkeeper wife! she's doing her best.
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>>548881190
Beryl.
But she has tits and the resident lolicon goes apeshit about her so we don't talk about her.
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ZZz mogged us
uhoh we got too uppity !
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what unit to pair if I want to build Veronica or Mika in Lab0?
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>>548881089
it's all so tiresome
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>>548878654
Alright, fuck you guys. Offering of the void and the agony set do not increase agony damage.
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>>548881278
Mei Lin.
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why did they decide to make the post launch characters not only thee DPS but also three bricks?
they're definitely getting buffed in January, right?
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this is so broken
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>>548878982
Agony isn't void damage, so void set won't affect it
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>>548881163
So it's good synergy or mid?
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>>548878654
2/2/2 since they changed the 4 piece sets to only affect card damage instead of providing element damage %.
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>>548881342
Pretty sure Tressa's daggers damage matters more damage than the Agony stacks, if you're building cassius, but I'd go 2/2/2 anyway because 2 atk/2 crit is still better than 4pc void
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>>548881089
Basically. So you can use your ml team on left side barely make it in 5 turns and have equal score to a yuki that clears it in 1 to 2 turns.
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>>548881465
It is actually, Rei can buff it with her cards.
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>>548881519
does it? isn't her whole thing stacking meme daggers because of the agony
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>>548881261
What happened?
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>>548881089
>>548881532
All they needed to do to shill Yuki is make the 1st side 10 turns make the boss have a 2nd phase if you kill it, same as the 2nd side, why did they do it?
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>>548881504
maybe if you bring vero or cassius with the +1 draw gear because she got no draw, i wonder if a cloned bind card with different lowering ap effect costs would stack to make the entire draw cost 0
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>>548881442
every gacha does that
they beeline multiple dps characters since they are the most eyecatching
no one would give a fuck if the first new character is a fucking support healer or some shit
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Middle or right?
>>548881080
Is this difficulty 8? If so keep rolling
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>>548881089
I can't believe this slipped past initial testing, if there ever was any to begin with.
Thing won't get better as long as Tressa, Cassius and Hugo remain unchanged.
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>>548880549
And some people think that nerfing characters will solve this problem.
It won't.
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>>548881635
It's both, agony is 50% fixed damage, so the harder you hit the stronger agony damage (generally)
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>>548881442
I'm expecting them to announce 2.0 in development and complete rule changes for deck building by the end of season 1. Infinite scaling and ability to reduce decks to 1 card is a complete mistake. The game is a month old and we can already Thoracle everything turn 1.
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I don't like NU Renoa
She's a dumbass
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>>548880549
Only braindead retards care about leaderboards
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>>548881675
actually i havent checked if the bind card is unique if it is uuh i guess they sorta synergize but there's better partners for gaybron
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>>548881721
wait, so I should be running crit/void/atk instead of atk/void/atk??
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>>548881680
But supports are the ones that make broken teams and fun gameplay possible here?
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What feedback will you give when they send a survey for the leaderboard event?
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>>548881697
Oh it will. Until they release the next balance mistake
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>>548881836
more paags and pawgs
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>>548880549
Yesterday I tried fighting against the tide, but I gave up
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>>548881635
Her daggers will always do more damage than the agony they apply, especially when paired with someone who generates a gazillion morale like Cassius.
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>>548881635
The daggers damage should be higher when you add multipliers like Morale, damage buffs, void set, equipments like Foggy Crystal ball, etc...
Also because Agony is backloaded damage, there will be situations where you will have to face tank enemies while playing your hand, because you're avoiding killing them, targeting something else and waiting for the DoTs to kill them instead. Fully investing into DoT might be worth it if we get characters that can trigger DoT stacks though, think Kafka from HSR, but I doubt they'd make Tressa more broken than she already is
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>>548881771
Leaderboards expose how shit the balance is, which means its pointless to roll for anything if a 4 star trounces all your characters in damage and mei lin needs the enemy to handicap her to not be usable
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>>548881823
but would a support character sell? thats the only thing that matters
specially since you are dealing with gacha brained drooling retards here
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>>548881883
Honest diamond!
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>>548881817
If you're running her with Cassius yes.
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>>548881883
No but people told me that you NEEDED tressa, that it was IMPOSSIBLE to break Gold rank without Tressa????
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>>548882039
they would
but dps sell well near the launch of the game
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Is nightmare mode tier 11 the same difficulty/rewards as the normal tier 11?
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>>548880924
deserved
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>>548881050
>>548882146
Post hand
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>>548881975
Name a game with leaderboards where there isn't a clear best character
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>>548882039
Yes. No one would choose a worthless brick that struggles to deal 1% of the damage of everyone else over a powerful support.
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>>548882138
if it's from a tier 10 and then turned into tier 11 yea
if it's from a tier 11 then it goes to tier 12
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>>548882132
Are you trying to act retarded? The level of investment is not worth. This anon seems like hes sweating and cant beat a 4 star with his 5 star. Embarrassing. You should off yourself
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>>548881975
It works for Nikke? Where you can see the one true meta team that beats the bosses mechanics and everyone else copying with a 2% margin of someone using something else.
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>>548882138
It gives out better save data than the normal mode.
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>>548882039
>>548881823
How do you even design a new Support character, given the current state of the game?
AP? Draw? People are already farming decks with divine epiphanies like 4 Repose +1 AP veronica
Damage amp? Surely wont be a powercreep issue
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How the fuck is it fair that Mika gets 3 epiphanies in 1 battle and Chizuru gets 0 the entire run.
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>>548882238
Name a game where a free unit does more than 5x damage what a a paid one does. You free2scum leeches wont be missed when they gut the free2poor characters
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>>548882294
A 5* at e4 with its dedicated partner, and no, my deck is not a brick
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>>548881662
>>548881685
They just need to remove leaderboards.
Then things get fixed with time, because people will play for fun and variety instead of rewards-chasing.
In terms of content, 9/9 bosses where rewards stopped at 6 was the perfect approach.
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>>548882389
just put the whirlpool in the deck lil bro
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>>548882361
Oh shit I know you, you're the toilet hand from Zelda. Never met a celebrity before.
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>>548881682
I'd go with middle
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>>548882397
Epic7, makers of this game. And nobody is getting nerfed chuddie. Feel free to seethe and cry about it though.
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veronicunny
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>>548882385
You release more and more complex bosses with multiple mechanics, phase changes and restrictions. And then new characters get to have more and more stuff added on top too.
Then you end up like Morimens where you spend 5 minutes reading your cards, thinking about your turn order on how to maximize your play pattern without stepping on a land mine and having the boss interrupt you and kill you.

Bosses in this game don't punish you hard enough yet.
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Have they fixed Lab0 chaos? Or will half my decks base cards be without epiphanies at the end of the run
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>>548882641
Man, I wish CZN was just a game I could buy and play. Fuck how every gacha ends up having skill with Yu-Gi-Oh descriptions and boss mechanics that aren't even fun anymore.
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>>548882409
Thats some crazy investment. Likely top .1% rin and then theres the average tressa with just 3 copied upgrades to break the ladder.
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>>548881843
It doesn't if you also don't change how people approach content.
If you just nerf the best thing, people move to the second best thing, then the third, etc
People will always move towards a meta if there are incentives to do so.

You nerf characters if everyone is using that character even without incentives to do so, or at least look into why people are using that character.
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>>548882612
Their creators sponsored are already bitching to them about how unbalanced the game is because of these 3 characters. Time to pack it up and leave leech
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>>548882782
If it makes you feel better 9/10 cards are shit unless you have a specific epiphany so if you don't get the one you're looking for you give up immediately.
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>>548882385
There's no shortage of possible effects they could give a support for their cards.
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>>548882823
Just stop. The gap between the top characters is far bigger than any gap that exists between the rest of pot by multiple times. Perfect equilibrium is not obtainable but these characters completely break the game. Refering to tressa, mei lin, and cassius.
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>chizuru
>building WoW is supposed to stack up her unique card for big damage
>pull her
>go to chaos
>can't stack for shit
>go entire run doing zero damage
hello?
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explain to me how this shit is useful please
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old news but, KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>548883163
We warned you that she was bad. In chaos she feels extea bad since you need specific epiphanies early or youll jsut die.
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Is there a list of cards which can be copied?
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nigga how are leaderboards real haha
just close your eyes lmao
just ignore their existence
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>>548882891
Hmmm...
Nyo
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>>548883264
I've played through multiple runs and she just doesn't stack for shit. I thought she would at least be like Yuki where it was somewhat manageable to trigger inspiration.
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>>548883264
I play renoa and orlea
this is just tuesday for me
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This will be my last post about the great rift. I reached Dismond and I'm satisfied now.
I might revisit it again when it's about to end. Would be nice if I get to keep the sticker even if I dropped below 3% later
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>>548883326
unironic skill issue
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>>548883184
>This is your new tier 0
KWAB
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>>548881975
So the problem is the leaderboard creating and/or forcing a specific team.
Would we be asking for Magna and Amir nerfs if the leaderboard boss leaderboard content favored them?

Also, most gamers in many gacha would love to have a competitive f2p team where 2/3 of it are literally free units. Tressa and Mika teams are also really good for new players, nerfing them would only hurt new players more than old players.
New players can approach, for example, Kentris and Family head or even Judas with TM and be able to engage and clear it, while older players can do too but can also use other combatants for challenge or just for fun.
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My comfy camp experience is fucking RUINED. RUINED! This Dellang BITCH won't shut the FUCK up! My soothing music, my cozy chibis by the camp fire. DESTROYED by this annoying CUNT who won't SHUT THE FUCK UP AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
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The autobattler's decisions are completely nonsensical by design, right?
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>>548883326
Apply shackles.. then use a multihit. Shes so fucking clunky shes a bench warmer.
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do i use rosaria with 2 manifests or the 3* rat for vero?
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Imagine being mogged by a 4 star character kekarooo
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>>548883749
What changed? I play the game with slop running in the background, so I didn’t notice anything.
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>>548883749
CHA-CHAN~!
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>>548883796
yes, it seems to operate on very simple logic which shows
it likes to do 0 cost cards, upgrades and skills and just do the biggest available damage multiplier cards
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>>548883326
She wants you to mark an enemy with her skill then hit them with 25 shadow daggers so she can do fuck all damage with her mythic card.
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>>548883868
Dellang now has voice lines and they play any time you do anything in the shop, or even if you just idle in the shop. Her voice is also like nails on a chalk board.
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>>548882624
I thought I'd make some sloppa of her but it's kinda hard. What animal even has low-hanging ears? The closest thing seems to be a dog.
What if Veronica is actually a dog girl?
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>>548884019
shes a rabbit that got saved by a mouse is the lore
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>>548883598
Its not like tressa is a favorite in that side over the e4 rin. But the balance being shit makes a tressa a better dps. Now imagine a e0 rin. Who would roll anything only to be way weaker than a free character? Youd have to be a fucking moron.
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>>548883796
Works well enough with Mei Lin.
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>>548883968
AAAAA SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP AAAAA
if she was flat and shorter id be fine with it.
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>>548884049
Yeah but her ears hang low and anime rabbit girls are never like that
Also Mr Kowalski is clearly a hamster
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How is it possible that all new DPS are all bricks
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>>548884081
only based post itt
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>>548884019
>low hanging ears
I don't know how to sloppa but maybe putting lop ears or lop rabbit in the prompt could work?
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>>548884075
>Its not like tressa is a favorite in that side over the e4 rin.
She is, Rin simply can't compete.
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>>548882389
https://youtu.be/Nz8ssH7LiB0?si=BRzYXNKxIwWRWAK8
Square hole meme but every epiphany goes to Mika
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>>548884110
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>>548883749
Gayest anon ITT
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>>548884113
Devs don't play the game, the guy who originally designed the core gameplay is no longer on CZN
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mathfriends eloise ego 1 or zatera ego 5 for kayron?
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>>548883598
Hey idiot theyll balance the game around these broken strageties if they let them stay and be accepted. So either everything new will feel underpowered and we ALL use tressa mei lin until eos. Or the powercreep the fuck out the game and make everything more difficult too. Or they can bring down tressa back down to earth with the rest of the shitters.
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>>548884190
>not even a dark mode
Disgusting
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>>548884303
on*
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>>548884190
Thanks for illustrating my point

>>548884148
Yeah that does work actually
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Based Khalipe
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3 dupes of Orlea and I still don't know how to play her
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>>548884283
Bria > 3* > 4*
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>>548884159
They are both void single target is the point. And yet tressa blows the fuck out of rin and any other void single target dps. The balance is beyond incompitent.
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>>548884402
thanks anon
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>>548884081
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>>548884276
>The retard who designed infinite combos is gone
And that's a good thing.
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The worst is these 3 will be in standard pool and brick your standard roll lemeow
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>>548884258
Meant for
>>548884081
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>>548884113
Fucking moron devs didnt think what would happen if tressa just duped an upgrade the point where it fills your entire hand with a single heal. And then add another character that scales infinitately with the number or attack cards you play in one turn.
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Yo where the hell did that guy go?
He left his bro with the flower and just peaced out.
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The first ever powerregress gacha, congrat /czn/
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>>548884113
They are overcompensating for Mei Lin and Tressa's existences.
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>>548883006
But nobody cares about that if there is no incentives to do so, that's the point.
People weren't blowing their lids when Mei Lin was shitting on crab9 or FH. Why? Because nobody cared, it was just "oh another one, very original"
Leaderboards creates this incentives, and now you have to use them, so now you feel like they need nerfs BECAUSE of the leaderboards.
Hell, I'm sure if the first half boss was the Blue Pot boss with buffs ML wouldn't even show up there and you people would be complaining about someone else.
If Tressa got nerfed and remove, second half would be flooded with Chizurus and people would be complaining this game is p2w.
The root here is just the competitive mode, nobody cares about what other cunts are doing if it's just PvE, as proving by the fact nobody cared before.
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my void wives
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>>548884719
Wizdaph exists bwo
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>>548884771
>
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>>548884390
No clue what her m3 does but she should work with, Barry, Rin, and Chizuru
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>>548882409
absolutely fucking insane deck
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>>548884390
You don't play Orlea.
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>>548882457
kek
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>>548884478
>>548884478
Retard
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>>548884730
The fact that chizuru is a brick compared to tressa shows how braindead the dev team is. Tressa is a free character. Chizuru will cost most people 70 pulls. Why the fuck wouldnt she be more powerful in this content? Why shouldnt ronoa and rin be more powerful for right side?
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>>548884849
Gwo? she’s after a whole year of mostly power regress aside sheli and livana
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Remember when Rin was bottom tier, they fixed that problem
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>>548884730
>second half would be flooded with Chizurus
Not when she takes the entire 10 turns to do 20% of the boss' health.
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remember to give your psionics exhaust cards. stuff like the 2 ap celestial heal can get 2 morale perm
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>>548884959
And the two banners right after her are worst than standard legendaries again…
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>>548884967
She's on my bottom tier, if you catch my drift.
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I love how Tressa being so good makes whalebabs cry. Like they were gonna be in the 1% regardless lol
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>>548883184
That would've been her best Karmic Flames card if it didn't cost 2 while the character cucks herself out of AP.
Think about it this way, that card is Curses Shackles + instant 5 stacks. Other Karmic Flames will never give this many stacks without some specific Tsukuyomi epiphanies, but it being cost 2 fucks you over because it reduces your other attacks, meaning less stacks per turn total.
Plus without dupes you almost never will have that card on hand to really speed things up anyway
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>>548884925
Jeet.
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>>548885175
Just get the bound at dusk epiphany that reduces the cost of a card by 2.
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>>548884959
Honestly sidegradin in Wizardry is fine when you only have EXP to farm for a new character. It's especially egregious here because of the hoyoshit model
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>need to play bazillions card to make bind 5
>it's not even doing good damage
>tressa spam dagger, stacking agony multiple turns
>play vital strike and does gorilla damage
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>>548885310
the gloomy past thoughts of someone else will dig deep into your mind
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>>548883163
that's because when she kills one enemy with karma flames, the curse from it doesn't get moved to the next enemy
you have to reapply it, but the ONLY card that can apply is in your graveyard and in chaos (specially early) you won't have an easy time drawing specific cards
so you started the fight by applying karma flame to one enemy, killed it, now you only have (at best) one shadow moon in hand, two other enemies to kill, and karma flames is MIA, by the time you get it again the enemies are already dead
you can stack against elites and bosses, that's what she was designed for, but it's basically a finisher since most of her damage is coming from buffed basics+oni hunt anyway
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>>548885310
Allows you to enter floor 3.
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Haha... i love how the game is reduced to 2 characters that are free, perfect for me as a seapagpag eater. And how every 10 minutes everyone is asking why every new character are bricks. I make 2 shekkles a week by the way.
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>>548885439
oh thats the third boss, yeah i dont think so chaos
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+20 save data cost
no contribution
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>>548885458
>the jeet shitposter who larps as a whale to farm izzat is back again
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>>548885534
Cant spot an sarcastic post can you sea pagpag?
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>>548885523
Just delete her curse card.
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>>548885439
whats in there
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>>548884075
Because they want to roll for the character, not because they feel they need the character to compete in some leaderboards.
Why would you roll? Because you want the mew character and to have fun, you're not rolling to clear any specific content meaning you don't feel forced to use the best character. Chaos is an example, we're here complaining about Tressa but it's not like we're only using Tressa in Chaos. Same for Basin. It wasn't even a problem with Judas or Kentris or Family Head. People used Tressa to kill those easily, but people also used Rin or Haru or Yuki and had fun, and no one felt like were losing anything.
It's only a problem NOW. Because you're compelled to do so.
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>old codex now has access to the dimensional tunnels
>but the new cards and equips don't show up yet so you're playing without some of the best tools available right now, including the neutral that fetches forbidden cards
thanks gooks
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so did we ever figure out if Veronica was a rabbit or a mouse
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>>548885737
Rolling for underpowered crap ruins the fun. People would cope and give the devs the benefit of the doubt that they know what they are doing. People gave them too much credit. Get that gook strap out of your mouth.
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>>548884940
Because Tressa is the true main heroine of this game.
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>>548885780
worse, she's a foid
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I need a better first side, but at least I got 500k
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>>548885616
Uh oh brownoid melty.
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I just tried chuuchuu
She seems fun, damage seems low but thats just from the trial.
Her epiphanies also seem fairly obvious as to which ones you want.
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>>548885935
What da fuark
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>>548885935
Holy BRICK first half.
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>>548884296
That's false.
In fact it'll only make things worse because if nothing changes and you only nerf Tressa, now the game moves towards a direction like HSR.
Don't you ever forget that the leaderboard event still has buffs for
>AoE Draw Order
If they keep this but nerf standard options, this only means one character, the current banner one, will show up in those boards and everyone will feel like they NEED to roll for those characters to stay competitive.
What happens to the leaderboard when everyone is nerfed to the same baseline, but Yuki and Chizuru still get shill buffs in said content? It's no like basin, so it'll just be Yuki and Chizuru there, repeating every season for every new character.
Making bosses and mechanics that can affect certain characters is better than just nerfing them, this won't solve the powercreep since this is a gacha game.
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>>548885948
>Her damage seems low in the trial.
Precoping
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B-but I just did it game
What do you mean
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>>548885935
>no T or C
Automatically SOUL.
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>>548886080
>Haru
>Soul
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>>548885980
>>548886012
Hey, it cleared on turn 7. I think if I can build a Rin or something instead of Haru, or make a proper AoE Haru I could make it faster and give Mei Lin the time to kill side 2
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>>548886080
>veronica mei
yeah no
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It's pretty fucking bad I'm not gonna lie
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Any magna's in top 100? My kot brick...
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>>548886016
Yuki is still worse than Mei Lin for first half despite her being giga buffed and Mei Lin being knee capped btw.
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>>548886119
Tressa is the real OP unit of this mode. Side 1 is pretty flexible in what you use, but your score is almost fully reliant on side 2, and it is 90% Tressa decks
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>>548881179
No wonder she has shit bland ults, I was half expecting fucking red hood to appear and fist bump her.
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>>548886192
Nothing but same 2 teams up there
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>>548886276
no you see if chizuru was a little stronger she would powercreep the game
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>>548886276
Where does the 269k damage screenshot come from? I've never seen Mei Lin do that much.
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>>548886276
Shitzuru sacrificed herself to keep Yuki from being the worst character in the game
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>>548885737
Meta-onlyGODS run these halls, always have. SlutfuFRAUDS always wind up exposing themselves as metawhores.
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>>548886370
I took it from here
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>>548884940
Because this content by itself shouldn't exist.
And you shouldn't roll for some character just because they're strongER than the previous one
You're not wrong that Chizuru should have been stronger herself, but that's not on Tressa, that's on Chizuru (the devs)
They're holding back characters like this for some retarded reason, while also adding competitive content. Chizuru is a brick and doesn't feel good to play, but making Tressa weaker won't make Chizuru feel any better. If it wasn't Tressa on side 2, it would've been somone else, like say Beryl for example, and Chizuru would still be down in dumps.
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>>548885301
Nope.
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>>548886119
veronica is soul
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>>548886276
>NOT PICTURED: 3 dupes of Pendant with Retrieve and -1 Divine Epiphany
Dishonest motherfucker
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>>548886276
Uhhh, where's the Veronica cards?
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>>548886016
The newest thing is going to be shilled because its new. This isnt a new concept. And this was litterally their intention. But they fucked up their balancing in several areas including partners and epiphanies. They are so retarded. These characters tressa, mei lin are so overpowered that they dont need to be shilled at all and still beat characters that are shilled. Mei lin takes a step further that they handicapped her and she still can find her way on the right team and left team top 100. You mentioned yuki okay now lets compare yuki the next season where she isnt shilled to mei lin that also gets no buffs. It wont be close, ml will outdamage her over 5:1 on content where neither are shilled or more.
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>>548885339
Doesn't change point 2, but "stacks per turn" is also related to Chizuru's and allies attacks.
That shibari update would only reduce that Karma Flames to 0, but you would still have only 3 AP to get more stacks. This will never against against unlucked AP and potentially infinite stacks from using all that AP to attack more often.
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I believe I speak for everyone when I say devs ruined the dellang shop girl
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>>548886193
Yuki does beat mei lin in first half. But beating mei lin in first half doesnt matter because you cant get extra points from 1st half.
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>>548877462
I haven't played for the last week or so, did I miss anything besides another long ass week of Lab Zero? How much of a shitshow were the leaderboards? I assume they're as autist-friendly as I figured they would be.
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So how do the gooks and nips feel about this?
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>>548886543
Im overplaying it for dramatic effect, but you still can do this is 1 turn while Chizuru needs multiple
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remember that they alredy said that chizu partner its getting buffed
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I do my comfy chaos runs then I come here to shitpost. Already got my 500k with bricki anyway.
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>>548886671
Option to mute NPCs coming up I bet, and all because of her.
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>Here's your top tier Chizuru deck
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>>548886740
Chizuru partner isnt being touched. Theyll touch haru and yuki partners that were released before they announced that.
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I did 147k only on my first try. I think I might be retarded
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>>548886671
>>548886758
Is it really that bad?
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>>548886779
Does the gun activate when *anyone* draws?
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>>548886793
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>yuki will get buffed!
>
>Chizuru will get buffed!!!!
>You are now here
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>>548885857
But that's my point, what the fuck are you arguing against here?
I'm not asking for the character to stay underpowered, I'm saying that nerfing other characters won't make the underpowered character feel stronger.
I want Chizuru to get buffed, I don't want Tressa to get nerfed. People only feel the need to nerd because leaderboards exist, but this won't solve the problem and won't change the fact that Chizuru is bad.
That's the point. You agree with me. If they remove leaderboards/competitive modes (so no needs to worry about rankings and rewards) and they buffed Chizuru so she doesn't feel worse than a 4 star, then everyone is happy.
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>>548886465
So this is with the 0 cost retrive pendant for Veronica and a duped rising dragon spire I presume?
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>>548886841
I got 102k on my first try but I'm level 48
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>>548886892
Nice game
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>>548886894
Theres 3 problem character outliers and everyone else thats underpowered. Nerf the outliers instead of acellerating powercreep by having to buff 9+ almsot the whole roster. Ultimited wcaling is giga retarded in the first place and shouldnt be a thing.
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>amir
>not amira
why does she have a man's name?
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They should nerf mei lin
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>>548886193
Wrong and not the point.
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>>548887151
I think it's illegal to directly nerf a gacha character in china
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Wait what's this about first half not mattering?
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>>548886779
I love that her best deck is the one where she only exists to be bound and raped by everyone.
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>>548887224
its not 2008, unc
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>>548887224
The game isnt chinese. And this is a myth. E7 has touched and nerfed characters before. And so did that one chink game that copied e7 rta and summoners war but was a 3D artstyle.
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>>548886936
Yeah heres the clip
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oa1QBHE5C/
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chizuru was made for the vaginabat
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I lost control and did 20 pulls
I thankfully didn't get a 5* so my account my still be salvageable
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>>548886894
Chizuru and Yuki don't have a problem clearing content, but when put side by side with Tressa Cassius they look like useless bricks.
The problem isn't the rest of the roster, it's the 2 characters breaking the game.
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>>548887268
The only score you get from first half is killing the boss. If you kill it in 5 turns with Yuki, you get the same score as killing it in 5 turns with Mei Lin.
Second half is not only harder to kill, you also get bonus score for healing/shielding, so it is by far the most important part
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Is this a new event? Ive grinded chaos a lot and haven't seen this one.
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>>548887309
Did they change it? I'm not a chink expert I just read it from someone else.

>>548887372
>The game isnt chinese
Obviously, but if they sell in china they then have to either fork their balance changes or apply the limitation everywhere
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bros i dont have e6 all f2p units like that rank 350 anon has... will i make it?
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>HSR
>character is mid
>AAIIIIEEEE THEY SHOULD BE OP
>CZN
>character is shit
>AIIIIEEEE THEY SHOULD STAY SHITTY
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>>548886843
It’s not an overstatement to say that I now dread going to dellang shop for any reason, I want to skip them even though I need card removals and shit
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>>548883163
Skill issue.
Chizuru is the NEW MEI LIN.
Get gud N00B.
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>>548887450
Oh so all the 1st half teams don't even matter for top ranks...
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>>548887268
You have a 5 turns to get max score. Your mei lin that kills it in 5 turns will get the same score that yuki does killing it in 1. So even though yuki is bis for left side, they made it too easy for any build dps to do it rendering any benefit non existant.
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>>548887445
Chizuru actually has a lot of trouble clearing the 2nd side of The Great Rift boss.
You see plenty of Yuki decks for first half in the leaderboards, but Chizuru is nowhere to be seen, because she is a lot worse in comparison to Tressa
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>Troonimal poster
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>>548887465
That's the 3rd floor event, take it
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>>548887268
First half caps at 5 turns, going below that won't net you any extra points nor will it extend your second half beyond 10 turns.
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>>548887506
I dropped hsr for czn because of powercreep.
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>>548887557
Yuki got like 200% damage increase shilling
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>>548887527
They *matter* in the sense that its a least a showcase of who is good enough to make it but it doesn't show who is best.
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>>548884752
One of those is Gayron's cum toilet though
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>>548887557
Thata because right side the one that matters for top score. And tressa is so unbalanced she makes all void dps look like bricks.
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>>548887450
now that its possible to get season decks in zero, i expect someone to make a revelations tressa and make the scores go into 2 million territory from perfect blocking boss attacks with shields
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I cant devide whats worse, having no arms or having your arms bound behind your back for the rest of your life
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>>548887737
So in other words, Yuki is a viable character in the hardest content of the game, but Chizuru is not?
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>>548887697
im gayron
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>>548887756
Being worse than Yuki definitely worst one
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>>548887756
no arms, easily. she's gonna kill kurokage one day
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where is the leader board battle mode? I can't find it
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>>548886454
I don't want CZN to become a meta-chasing game like shart rail bros...
I dropped shart rail exactly because of that...
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>>548887756
Bound is much better, I can enjoy watching her hands open and close and her arms struggle against the bonds as I fondle her. Amputees just turn me off.
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>>548887906
We have a lot of gachababs experiencing their first leaderboard content. It's no surprise
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>>548887749
It wont, it will maybe break 1m at best

1 score is earned per damage dealt
3 score is earned per hp healed or damage blocked, fully blocking with shield multiplies this score by 110%, not the damage dealt score
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>>548887906
this cope doesnt unbrick your shitzuru, retard
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>the dog ate my karmic flames
wtffff
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>>548887807
No this is a scoring system. Its not "clearing" content. It seems like you havent even done this content yet you seem to talk about so much. Right side is made impossible to "clear" by everything. The fact that tressa is pretty much the only one used shows how far ahead of everything she is. Left side is easy as fuck not sure why you think left side matters. Its not use to score like right side for top 100
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>>548887526
WTF.........................
where were u wen chizu chuu is new meirin
i was at house getting pink badge with tresa
"chizuru is new meirin"
"no"
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>>548887906
It used to be a nothing burger for me, but Im enjoying the chaos it created
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This kanchou nigga…
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>>548887952
I'd rather have new characters be exciting to build and get
You could, and probably should have skipped all the limited banners so far, because the launch units are just better. It's getting a little boring to use the same units over and over again
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>>548887151
I SAID
THEY SHOULD NERF MEI LIN
I want you bwos to post angry punching mei lins...
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>>548887956
Anon... I... meant it from her perspective...
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>>548887906
Tourists who will be gone soon anyway
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>>548887906
Whalecucks went mental upon being faced with the reality that their e6 bricks were worse than an e0 Tressa.
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>>548887445
No content is relevant, you don't need to use Tressa Cassius, you don't bring Tressa Cassius to every 11+ chaos do you?
They're only being compared to those because of the memeboards, no other content before this was ever relevant and caused people to have this kneejerk reaction. Why?
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Yuki is good and nothing happened in zimbabwe
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>>548887756
She just does things to my dick. The bound arms with her breast on full display ready to be grabbed are just the best
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my nigga letting tressa take all the blame while being just as essential to beating part 2 as her
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>>548887526
is this true? i'm rolling.......
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>>548888082
Huh?
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>>548887036
There will always be outliers.
You will never fix that.
You can only fix why people are using them.
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>>548887557
You're not really supposed to kill the 2nd half boss, that's why there are diminishing returns on damage score.
But infinite combo teams don't care about that and delete it anyways.
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>>548888090
They are fun though, just not rewarding.
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>>548888247
You dont know what outlier means ESL.
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>>548888224
cassius final potential is actually god tier idk why its so ridiculous compared to everyone else's final pot.
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>>548888090
Yuki is fun to play with though, even more when you get the whole draw engine + freezing blades going
Chizuru is the one that feels clunky as fuck to play
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>>548888256
They did a pisspoor job on the 2nd side if they actually wanted you to shield and heal
>Only attacks once per turn
>Limited turns
I think you get more score by killing it than shielding all of its attacks, not to mention you get hit by the all vuln hand if you don't attack it
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>>548888332
But he's right, Mei Lin is an outlier because her 2 cost nuke doesn't have a damage cap. Truth be told they should just remove damage caps on a lot of cards instead of this wishy washy bullshit they're doing.
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>>548888157
Im not a whale but i rather a whale have their leaderboard fun than them stop spending and revenue tanking because leaderboards exposed how shit their e6 chizuru is compared to an e0 tressa
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>>548888090
>all the limited banners so far
Literary 0
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>>548888474
Mentally disabled people shouldn't have internet access
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>>548888547
always funny to see shitposters reveal themselves like that
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>>548888446
You dont understand. Im calling mei lin, tressa, and cassius outliers that need to be fixed/nerfed. Hes saying then the next outlier will be some bitch like ronoa (theres always outliers according to him). Absolutely retarded argument.
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>>548888090
>limited banners
touristbro...
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>>548888553
Whales keep the servers up, devs should cater to them with prestige content like the leaderboards, not to sweaty f2p
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I don't even feel like investing into Haru anymore why did I waste all my materials?? I feel demotivated and I should quit
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>>548888643
F2poors keep your player numbers up, are you daft
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>>548888643
Current dupe system/scaling makes that impossible because deck building >>>>> any dupes
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>>548888609
CHIZUGAWDS
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>>548888602
>>548888547
ok, rate-up banners, whatever
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>>548888090
>all the limited banners so far,
hsrkek
also, bigger number doesnt always make a character more fun to play
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WhaleSHARTS lost
F2PGODS won
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>>548888702
A f2p is just a leech. Not needed to keep the servers running. You arent paying the bills. And besides most f2p dont a flying fuck about leaderboards. You get a red stamp instead of a yellow stamp good for you
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>>548888659
she is good in basin though
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>>548888710
Is this a bad thing?
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>>548888609
>Mei Lin AP-friendly
The what? Isn't her deck second hungriest after Kayron?
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>>548888474
A whale would still have their E6 Tressa though.
Whales whaling for a full E6 squad don't give a fuck, they have everyone and will have everyone.
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>>548888796
>A f2p is just a leech. Not needed to keep the servers running.
Do you even know how much is needed to keep servers running? Also income doesn't equate quality, look at FGO and mijewyo games if you want proof.
>You arent paying the bills.
Post paid crystals
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>>548888858
Why the fuck would anyone spend money to get a worse version of their E6 Tressa?
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>>548888710
Dupes do matter. You can get an extra 40 to 60% multipler. We all know how strong multiplers are
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>>548888350
The world is a gigantic hoax
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>>548888829
If you’re a whaleKEK, yea
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getting raped by the fucking dogs for the 3rd time in a row kind of makes me want to quit who thought that was good level design fucking retarded
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I kinda get that Chiz was supposed to be a Rin with less dmg but more-easier hit based scaling, but why is the hit gimmick so utterly dogwater unless you do pretty much Rin tier teamdeck permutations to actually activate it in reasonable time. And the end result isn't even that good other than being able to scale her ult.
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>>548888595
They don't need to be fixed/nerfed anyway.
You remove that ceiling, people move to the second best thing (either already existing or that will show up from gacha later) since there will always be a top 3, you keep nerfing them but never solve the problem.
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>>548889014
Is that his old ego animation?
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>>548888903
Because they're whales?
Why whales whale? Because they can.
We're talking about whales here, not metafags. They don't give a fuck if some character is crap, if they can E6 them they will. Their only decision making is based solely and completely on "do I want this character?"
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Not gonna say no to buffs but I've been enjoying running brickzuru in chaos
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>>548889093
They do when they easily do several times the damage as the rest. Literally several times less damage. Its that bad between cassius+tress, veronica+meilin and anotjer other combination in the game with dps+whatever.
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>>548888835
if you play it ideally after the upgrades her nuke turn should only cost 3 ap. her move cards cost 0 her stikes cost 0, vernoicas draws should cost zero if you got the right epiphany, you only need to use her retain buff card that costs 1 ap and her kick which is 2 ap.
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>>548889234
fuck off bitch yuki needs hers first
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>>548889234
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>>548889326
Running E6 Rei in chaos is amusing without the mika crutch. It's basically kill or be killed.
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>>548889205
Nta but you are braindead. Stop pretending whales just swipe whatever with no thought to anything. Ive been a whale in some games and put thought into what i whale for. If its a useless brick thats outpreformed by a free2poors free character its a hard pass.
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>>548889257
You nerf those, people just move to say Kayon stacking or Tsukuyomi Chizuru or whatever
>but it takes longer
Doesn't matter, someone will always find something to exploit, people will follow and copy if there's a leaderboard to use them, and you will always feel like a certain group of character is in the top (even worse when you nerf everyone and the top new are only the rate up shilled banner characters every single time)
This leaderboard is just a content that favours this group, change the type and it'll favour another group, and then we'll be back to complaining about the other group and forget about this one.
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>>548888230
no. you need a skill card to get +2 hits on moon, so even if you duped it twice youd get +6 hits per turn at most.
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>>548889326
Rei carrying BRICKS on her shoulders so they could at least compete with others.
Such a good girl and deserves all the love and headpats.
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>>548889181
It's his special card animation before he started pretending to be a 4 star with a suspiciously low pull chance.
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What's under?
https://x.com/satou_aji11/status/1996535479555276876
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>>548889462
>Stop pretending whales just swipe whatever with no thought to anything. Ive been a whale in some games and put thought into what i whale for.
lmao, whales are dumb as bricks
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>>548889462
Are you aware about JP and Chizuru's banner?
Hell, even Yuki sold a lot.
You are not the rule if you did that, you are the exception.
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>>548889478
Shit examples. You are now trying to prop up bricks. They are balanced bricks that are side by side along with all the other useless bricks.
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>>548889545
Finally an oasis in a sea of slop.
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>>548889545
a pair of brickpples
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wouldnt chizuru get blood clots from being tied all the time?
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>>548889545
>FANART
holy ALIVE game
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The homoKING doesn't concern himself with leaderboard.
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why does sometimes my chizuru feel like a god and sometimes she feels like dogshit? I'm running chi, teresa, rei. what is a teresa replacement? this is for running chaos btw.
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>>548889462
meanwhile japan >>548784965
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>>548889545
UOOOOOOH!
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>>548889545
Im sucking that
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>>548889595
Yukis banner ended before leaderboards exposed the devs. Pre leaderboard there was a lot of coping and faith in the devs, i mean they are devs, they should test their game. Turns out they are morons.
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>>548889689
Either improve deck rotation or more hits.
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>>548888903
You don't get it because you're not a whale. For some, spending money is chump change so they think about E6 Chizuru as much as you'd think about a fast food meal. For others, they're just about collecting everyone maxed out. Or they want to flex a full collection. Or they want the dupe currencies. Also consider that several whale accounts are actually team accounts where several players invest a pretty small amount of money like 100$ a month that still creates a stacked account.
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>>548889627
Doesn't matter.
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>>548889756
does renoas bullets generate hits for chi?
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Now that our flopge is SOARING above ZZZ, how long until we kill Genshin too?
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>>548889462
>Ive been a whale in some games and put thought into what i whale for.
How much money? You probably just don't get how much actual whales put into games.
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give her more damage with morale stacking and draw and shell feel better
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>>548889750
If ignorance is a bliss then I guess it's easier to just remove leaderboards then
Then chill for a couple of months until people forget
Everything is fixed now
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>>548886276
I actually prefer bottom if the payout was at least decent
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>>548889545
FUARK I wanna roll so bad...
Even if she's a brick...
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>>548889662
>neutral instead of the bullet potentials
Tell me your secrets LukeGOD, what's the trick?
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um bros forbidden ecstasy starts at 0 in the second phase if you drawn enough on the first one, its too OP...
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>>548889947
NTA but...neutral IS the bullet potentials anon
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>>548889947
Bullets are neutral cards
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>>548889984
>>548889992
Why are Tressas daggers her own cards though? And Orleas slimes?
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>>548889984
>>548889992
I had no idea since I'm a lukelet, why's this a thing for him and not the other characters that create cards?
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Sereniel will NOT be a brick this time. Trust me bro
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>>548889750
I’m enjoying having my free unit be top tier though
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>>548890074
>>548890097
Who knows? Maybe vibe coded since Luke's partner can also create them, so they HAD to be neutral?
That would be my guess.
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so are we getting a free dupe every season?
free chizuru with max dupes....
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Is the rat card (the one that draws an attack and +50%s it) rare or do you have to unlock it or something? I don't think I've seen it in my lab 0 runs.
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Which 3*s partner are worth leveling?
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>>548890245
It's pretty rare, I don't see it often.
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>>548889750
free unit being top tier is good for everyone
>but then why would I roll?
idk I don't have gambling addiction, if someone is fun to play with then I'll just roll
getting yuki 2 preps and one rat and rotating her deck non-stop is really fun
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>>548890185
From where?
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>>548890285
All of the ones giving %atk are good.
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>>548890354
seasonal shops duh
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My biggest complaint so far is honestly the potential basic / common / unique thing.
I get it now, but man they couldn't have made it worse if they tried.
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>leave chizuru team on auto
>lose
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>>548880403
Anon the way to do it is remove every single card that gets epiphanies from the other 2 bitches
That way you're forcing eps and dupes on the character you're farming for
Yes even shit like source of water and veronica's draw cards. Just don't remove the preparation card because without that one Veronica can't do damage
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>>548890245
It's rare from shops, but you'll find it more often on training (lol lmao) or select 1 from 10 rare card events
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>>548890107
You VILL roll for Sereniel because she is going to have cassius rateup.
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Owen is based.
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>>548890527
But then how do I win the run...
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the support dps t0.5 is better than anyone lmao
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this card has to be broken. it just has to be.
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>>548890586
bring a carry that can deal good damage with basics + buffs
you know who deals good damage with basics? mechizuru
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>>548890303
Sexo.
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>>548890616
magnaros...
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>>548890616
correct except haru is b. i know because i built her
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>>548890679
just wait for the combatant with 99 cost cards...
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>>548890678
even in chaos content?
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>>548890679
I see potential in the 2 lead activation and the -2 cost one, everything else is just bricks on bricks. Why does it all have to be random.
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>>548890778
thats the chaos tier list she is t0 in DS
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My level 60 e2 haru is worse than my level 55 e0 mei lin.
And its not even close.
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>>548890737
haru looks like a G cup to me idk
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>>548890616
>Nia
>S
No. A at most. She's a straight up worse Cas.
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>>548890937
Hunger teams gives Nia a massive boost that no one can properly replicate yet.
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>>548890791
it's non-chizuru combatant cards only, which means you can control it a lot with deckbuilding. the major issue is that it plays ballistas (which isn't actually that terrible because they still damage, it's just pointless).
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>>548890937
Eternal hunger aboose with adagio she matches cassius and veronica
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>>548890679
time to make the legendary 2 forbidden ecstasy only decks on two combatants and get that auto activation 8 hits per turn
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>>548890894
wtf meilin
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>>548891021
>>548891034
How many people with hunger do I need for that? I don't wanna grind 3 sets, is 2 enough?
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>>548890874
haru is really good at basin this rotation, my meilin got poisoned and died and haru khalipe destroyed it.
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>>548891081
Sounds like they had sex
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>>548889545
>not inverted nipples
This is not canon
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Save for Euphina.
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>if I dont care about the leaderboard that means others also wont and the devs wont add more leaderboards
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>>548891301
Partner coded design
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>>548891301
can she support tressa?
No?
Brick
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>>548891340
Her kit was already leaked.
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>https://x.com/tototon3535/status/1995898765535052016/photo/1
We won Chizurubwos
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>>548891021
>>548891034
Cassius has discard capability to use eternal hunger too though on top of his moral farming
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>>548891109
one hunger is fine, maybe 2 if you get the adagio version that draws and discards 2 then moves to top but you can't run any other characters that create cards because you just won't have hand space
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So this is the power of leaderboard autism...
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>>548891438
he doesn't move it to the top of the deck which just makes it a +1ap and draw per deck reshuffle instead of nia's 3-5 times
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Best Character in the game.
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>>548891301
too big
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>>548891562
Shuffle has epiphs to put it in the draw pile too though, least I remember it having that
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>>548891643
sex
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>>548891415
What the fuck is going on down there?
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>>548891415
>monster rape
>not sloppa
BASED BASED BASED
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>>548891817
Good thing Kayron doesn’t have his 0 cost futulities anymore, that would be crazy bonkers over powered!
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>>548891776
yeah but that shuffle is exhaust
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Any way to delete all the endless 3* partner dupes? Perhaps scrap them into a little traveler shop currency
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sugoi game
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chizuru alt will have her arms being usable and she is going to be t0
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I don't know why you anons care about leaderboards so much
Just have fun playing the game no need to be the first in everything
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>>548892075
she has her arms if you delete her bind card
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>>548891961
That’s why you copy it!
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Is it worth ego manifesting 4* partner dupes?
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I'm the boss of /czn/.
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>>548892249
fair enough bro
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>>548892504
me on the far left
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>>548892426
as opposed to...?
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>>548891415
Ai artist anon could make better art
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Tressa E6. Correct me if im wrong but isnt this just grief? It will go to your hand before you draw on turn start and basically lose 1 draw right?
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>>548892426
Why wouldn't you? You're not gonna run out of them
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>>548892707
I assume when they get buffed they'll be 8% ATK baseline and 16% at max dupes, I was thinking there might be one worth keeping a spare copy of which has a really useful ego skill, like Ritochika for example where people use her for the 4 morale despite getting no benefits for being striker
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>>548892686
Cards created at the start of the turn don't count towards the 5 starting draws
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>>548892686
it only loses draw if you had 5 retained cards in hand or extra draw sources
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>>548892658
>AI "”””””””””””””””””””artist””””””””””””””””””””
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>>548891979
There's a trash icon that lets you turn them into a bit of partner XP
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>>548892686
It's not when agony kills a target, it's when you kill a target that has agony so you can create it during your turn.
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>>548892807
>>548892813
>>548892951
ty bros
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>>548892879
By your logic cameramen isn't real professional because they only press a button.
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>>548893028
>cameramen isn't
ESL bwo...
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>>548892879
It's *AI-assisted content producer, shitlord.
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Rolled Chizuru and her partner
She makes my dick hard so I don't regret it
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>>548892686
what it actually means is that you have to kill someone with agony on it. not ending turn and agony procing
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>>548880549
The leaderboards literally don't matter. They give you fucking nothing
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>>548891986
sorry we can only give you muscle enhancers if you use guns
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I think they didn't use Kurokage stand form for chizuru right now because they want to save it for a future alt
some shit like "Unrestrained Chizuru"
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Getting cheeks clapped with Rei/Tressa/Chizuru is labs 0. 1/3 successful runs with them. Who can I replace?
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Is there a way to turn off the autoplay youtube video in the stupid stove launcher?
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I don't think I'll be able to get to 500k bros
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>>548893338
Your views generated ads for them
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Considering they added this picrel.. another fucking DPS next banner???
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>>548893276
rei with mika
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>>548893338
open task manager and kill webview process.
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>>548881975
>pointless to roll for anything if a 4 star trounces all your characters in damage
Sex? Fun? Is the only reason to roll a character in your brain
>she's the most OP character that powercreeps everyone
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>>548893276
Sustain issue, bring Mika
>but then how would chizuru deal damage without rei
Well...
>and if I bring Mika AND Rei for damage, who will stack my wisps
About that...
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>>548893394
If you think about it they already running out of support deck archetype.
The only way to make support archetype is to release attack deck archetype first.
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>>548893394
A break/ravage focused one, to boot!
You can finally give AP to your Chizuru teams!
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>>548893276
Rei Mika Chizuru
You're never stacking Wisps during Chaos without Oni Hunt upgrade epipi, just accept it at this point
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>>548891301
Going all in on Euphina brother
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i built every void dps and support, i dont need other elements
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>doomposted as soon as the new boss was revealed
>patch goes live
>still the best DPS
Say sorry.
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>>548893352
you could if you just grinded out shadow reload like everyone else, but why bother?
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>>548877462
She's at 110/140 points. Do I remove rapid fire here?
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>>548894020
think for yourself
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>>548893806
i never doubted
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>>548894020
You save in case you get a dupe
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What's the event that lets you dupe a card in lab 0? Outside of the ones from beating the boss.
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>>548893806
>>548894174
First half is irrelevant retardbros.
Wake me up when she can kill the 2nd half boss.
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>>548894020
how about you picrel instead of making anons try to do imaginary math without knowing what you removed or converted prior to this
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send help, last chance to copy it
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do you get more epiphanies at the lvl 130 chaos?
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>>548877767
Only slow and dead generals have numbers, bwo.
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Is this good
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gayron in top 10. KNEEL
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>>548894778
how much hp does the first half boss have again?
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how does everyone have 4 shafow reload upgrades
like what the fuuuuuuuug...
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shes top tier
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>>548893394
This implies sereniel is just instinct Mei Lin
Also how do you obtain this? There's no memory fragment stage for it
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HOW DO PEOPLE DUPE 3 CARDS IN THIS CHAOS
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sereniel... inspiration support onegai
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does cursed shackles stack?
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>>548895076
That's good
But for me it's
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>>548895323
if only
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>>548895323
If only, that epiphany is a brick
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Want to hear something silly?
Chizuru's Karmic Flame epiphany
>[Initiation/Exhaust] Skill
>1 Cursed Shackles
>When a target inflicted with Cursed Shackles is defeated, create this card
Is cooked in phase/wave content that forces a turn end when a new wave comes in.
If you kill the enemy that has it, it goes back to your hand... then gets shuffled out together with everything else when the next wave comes, and now you have no way to stacks wisps.
That card really needs [retain] on it, on all forms, but especially on this one.

Also, speaking from experience, don't dupe Karmic Flames, you can't apply more than one Cursed Shackles on enemies to gain more wisps...
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>>548877782
Holy shit why would you lie like this? It took them seven years just to stop fucking you by Charing for gear unequp and the new gear farming is even worse than Wyvern cancer.
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>>548895126
>Also how do you obtain this? There's no memory fragment stage for it
there literally is bro
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>>548894768
no, you don't have any damage scaling for your moonslash. should have chosen an oni hunt that buffs moonslash.
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>>548895489
Wait nevermind I think I understand the point of that card, it's for the Bound epiphany that reduces cost by 2 for highest cost card so it's a free Bind stack
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>>548894293
Heart of Ore vein
normal version is a random selection of 3 cards
the rare version is select card (but this version is really rare)
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Snip snip
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Is there a brainlet guide for farming a tressa deck
Like which save data tier, what to remove from your other combatants, when to restart run
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>>548895647
Jesus christ I barely ever get the normal event let alone the rare version
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>>548895047
Gtfo out of lab 0, every chaos can be seasonal now if you go into a tunnel.
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>>548895914
Wait is this a thing?
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i keep reading and re-reading chizuru's manifest ego and I cannot believe how shit it is. smilegate has won, i'm panic rolling on standard.
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brainlet retard here
how does chizuru gain hits on her shadowmoon? sometimes i'll get it at 1 hit and sometimes i'll see x2 or more hits
i know the skill card can add 2 hits but i don't have that
how does it work, exactly?
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>>548895914
What's the best chaos to run? I got 0 real runs in any of them besides lab 0...
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I'm bricked up!
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>>548896037
just wait another 3 weeks for sereniel
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i just dont get how is kayron so fucking broken with stuff like bria and his ult literally exhausting the entire discard pile and then we have tressa with infinite card creation.

then we got chizuru
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>548896047
You use Bound at Dusk and you get +1 hit
One Tsukuyomi epiphany gives +2 hits
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>>548895914
but do you get the new purple currency?
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>>548896204
you get everything you'd get in lab0 other than the currency for the weekly runs cap
so you still have to farm 4 runs then you can gtfo
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What's the best chaos to farm a tressa deck?
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>>548896047
getting 3+ bind stacks upgrades it into shadow of the moon+ which is +1 hit. bound at dusk is +1 hit. so three hits is what you get at best without the singular epiphany that gives more.
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>>548896063
match the element to the character you're farming
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>>548896282
oh wow good to know thanks. green planet here I come.
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>>548896145
>>548896346
thanks. have a bear.
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>>548886192
No because Counters can't lower the shitpile's stacks meaning it will brick your hand and kill you if you play Magna and not Mei Lin/Tressa/Luke.
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>delete mika's cards
>still get her epis
uuuh ok
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so for chaos is Bound at Dusk good or bad?
after the first turn you get pretty much a free 0 cost use every turn, 2 if you get a epiphany.
How would bringing in mika and her extra ap help when you will have no draw or dmg amplification? Or are people running vero mika and chi and not using bind so you can spam ap and draw? would rei cassius chi work?
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reminder that nia is probably a skinwalker or not human at all
all her reactions to stress and therapy sessions are nonsensical
I cannot tell if there is even a human brain behind that behavior
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>>548896610
>Or are people running vero mika and chi and not using bind so you can spam ap and draw?
It's this
>would rei cassius chi work?
It does but if you want to be safer, go Mika Rei Chizuru
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>>548896142
kayron is unironically honest
if they ever print content with 3-4 enemies that cannot die, then he will outperform the usual suspects, but in bossfights he cannot compete
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>>548896336
Probably Mist City
>void weak
>it's basically lab0 in terms of enemies
>nameless rift event has a select copy card and you find it a bit more often than heart ore vein
>can drop revelations of futility for shields (put it on your support)
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>>548895653
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How early in the run can you leave to not get Laziness?
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You didn't use honest characters therefore you didn't beat the game.
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this is the run
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>>548896942
get to the first waypoint, then you can quite
before that it's laziness
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>>548896942
after getting to the first beacon
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>>548895653
>>548896883
Get out of here Lilibeth! And come back only once you are playable!
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>>548895653
>>548896883
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>>548897017
>>548897028
thanks
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found one bwoposter in his natural habitat
this is who you're sharing generals with
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>>548896883
Wild what they did to the Chinese version, dunno if the censored stuff was posted here but I wonder how much they will have to remove to release the game in China.
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>>548897079
>a gbf femcel
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>>548897079
Bwo... Rowlet fucking sucks...
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>>548896732
alright i'll try this out then. thanks! I think chi is fun to play and has actual pay off to her skills but the dmg floor is kinda low.
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This doesn't work on other combatant's exhausts, right?
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>>548897217
It does.
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>>548897217
It's safe to assume it doesn't, Tressa wants to use the scroll as her Mythic anyways
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>>548896706
Nia is music autism, shes a sensory type. I've met people like this.
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>>548896997
I don't understand how having 3 of these make Tressa broken, when I use her all agony stacks do like 50 damage, my kayron does 1000 damage
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>>548897315
Post leaderboard
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>>548897315
Read what Cassius' Triple 0 and his final potential node do
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>do the ranking boss for fun with whatever teams
>not even 300k
>top 30%
>side 1 has stupidly low HP, can't even use Yuki's full potential
>side 2 has 300k out of ass
Do I really have to build Tressa to get all rewards? Not counting ranking rewards, I don't care about the sticker, it's fugly.
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>>548897426
I didn't even have the time to play the story yet, let alone attempt this leaderboard thing
>>548897432
Wouldn't that make Cassius broken instead of Tressa then?
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>>548897479
>>548897432
Oh right, Tressa AND Cassius, because I have tons of spare exp items and ether to burn, right
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>>548897525
>Wouldn't that make Cassius broken
Keep it on the hush hush
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When's the next 4* releasing?
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>>548897232
Just tested it: it does not.
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>>548897525
We actually like Cassius and don't mind that he's broken
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just started playing a few days ago, can someone help out a scrub? I feel kinda stuck. just got to level 35 and unlocked the forbidden catalysts event

what’s the most efficient way to be getting to level 40 ASAP? i’ve done all the story nodes currently available until I do the promotion at level 40. i could do the story missions from the event but because I haven’t done chapter 5 yet I don’t really want to spoil it

if I don’t have stamina, do you still grind the chaos manifestation stages for save data or something?
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>>548887756
having robot arms with a will of their own fingerbanging you relentlessly
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>*cheats the entire game*
>whats up fellow honest players
Nerf Cassius.
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>>548897718
>frogbogan
No. just do chaos runs, memory frags are a meme because they can sometimes (read most of the time) give only two golds. codex runs give two at diff 7 and three at diff 9, just be careful not to pick a chaos with neglect modifier or you WILL die from a brick draw
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just 2 more copies...
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>>548897315
Because these are the type of stuffs you can do with 2 copies
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>>548897718
do the event story but hold the skip button/don't look
do the growth guide
do the trauma quests in the epione center (the ones that need a key from the shop)
there's less value in grinding below max level unless you're pushing some specific goal, but you do get some xp for completing chaos runs at the highest tier available based on your level
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>>548897315
First, Tressa's agony can deal more damage than that.
Second, it's basically infinite damage stacking with Cassius drawing healings back to your hand
Third, Cassius himself will start creating Triple 0 cards, that get stronger the more attack cards are used (both daggers and triple 0 cards themselves)

While that makes Cassius broken, yes, the driver is still the daggers that can be generated near infinitely to create near infinite Triple 0 cards (while also having backloaded damage from agony stacks)
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>>548897840
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>>548897840
Cassius in the story
>cheating is also skill
So that's soul and canon
Captcha related
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>>548898116
My FUARKING GOAT
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>>548898010
Cassius doesnt do that much damage, even if your triple 0 gets to 3~4000%, he shit out infinite draws and morale so Tressa can do even more damage
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>>548898282
build him for damage, I had my cassius with a single triple 0 critting for 1500 and I wasn't even building for it
>>
what exactly triggers the new boss to fill your hand with garbage vulnerable cards and hit you for eight trillion damage? this motherfucker has so many things going on I'm struggling to understand the fight
>>
YOU PLAYED FOR X HOURS PLEASE STOP PLAYING
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>>548898282
>Cassius doesnt do that much damage
He scales pretty fucking fast man, mine does 400 at around 400% damage
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>>548898006
i’ve done 2+3 and will do some chaos runs I think
will probably have to skip through the event story by the looks of it
thanks
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>>548898628
>>548898628
>>548898628
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>>548898461
you're welcome
I also forgot to mention, the event has a chaos you'll want to run 8 times before the week is over if you want max rewards (the rewards are pretty nice)
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>>548898401
When you reduce stacks to 0 it fills your hand with 0ap garbage.
In first hand killing adds reduces stacks.
In second hand hits reduce stacks.
If you fail to reduce stacks in time (3 turns iirc) it fills your hand with 2ap garbage.
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Sereniel + Cassius banner will be the next motherlode for Smilegate
>>
they are gonna nuke tressa and cassius
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>>548898852
Tressa is on the banner, working as intended.
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>>548897479
>Start new boss without reading any content
>Know my 60 yuki is dogshit
> 2 turn the boss with Mei
> Find out my new 60 is also a useless brick
>Restart with pure Mika e0 Hugo e2 Tressa
>1% global and instantly done with content

Well this game is an eos trap
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>>548897315
Agony might only do 50-75dmg per tick but the strength comes in how much you can stack it. After a few turns you're doing 2000dmg per turn in pure agony.
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>>548898716
I see. I can't even clear phase 1 on max difficulty man, he hits for too much. I'm getting filtered.
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>>548897670
cassius would be better as a hot skull magician girl with big tits
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CAN SHE SHUT THE FUCK UP?? I JUST WANNA BROWSE THROUGH THE DAMN SHOP, NOT LISTEN TO HER PERMANENT BLABLABLA REFRESH AFTER REFRESH! NPC VOICES WERE A MISTAKE!
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>>548899181
Theres no balance at all. Partners either suck or theyre broken



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