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[PoE 2]
>The Last of the Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883495

[PoE 1]
>Dead league: Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>3.27 Keepers patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3869067
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J

Last retard containment chamber:
>>549270192
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Can poo1tards stop replying to my posts with "b-b-b-but in poo1 its this way"
I really dont give a shit about your cease pool
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Last Epoch is better
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our qween
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Add option to dual wield scepters
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>>549298728
nice bush
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>>549298690
>can poo1tards stop comparing our half-baked early access scam to an actually good game? its unfair and unequitable. black lives matter!
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>>549298690
Highly encourage people to take a look at the last thread as an explanation for why this poo2er is so feisty
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>>549298728
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHA
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>>549298727
>Last Epoch is better
Why does this flash tier game get brought up every thread when no one plays it?
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>bowcucks really think they'll be breezing through one shotting packs this league just like before
have fun doing effectively 10% of your old damage especially without free gear
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>>549299016
Imagine trying to explain this post to someone with a job
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>cease pool
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>>549298550
First for being a Dragon in a video game!
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>>549298728
I'm glad my poe waifu hasn't been discovered yet. Lily makes a great filter to keep the plebs away.
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Are there indians in PoE 2?
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>>549299030
>why does the superior game get brought up in every thread even though it hurts my feelings? it's unfair to pooeggers of color. trans rights are human rights!
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>>549299121
>mentally ill tranny constantly photoshops his adam apple to extreme levels
easy
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This is the post that started the meltie. Just so you know what his insecurities are
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>>549299058
What's with the PoE2 trend if not reading patch notes and just kind of assuming that Johnathan balanced the game then going on to say objectively top tier builds will underperform
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>>549298728
Tyty is going to be hotter in 6 months
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What do you think the base types for talismans will be like for implicits or stats? Like will some talismans be more suited for wolf or bear or dragon? Or will they be pretty generic? I imagine that every talisman won't let you transform into each beast form. So there might be a talisman that only allows bear form but has some bear form implicits or something. Thoughts?
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>>549299224
Are last sleepoch devs so desperate that they need to try to highjack the PoE thread?
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Dragon breath fire has 800% attack speed.
Isn't that potentially a really good cast on crit/ailment trigger?
That sounds real fun
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>>549299185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmsXNZ6zGTk

her?
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>>549299285
it has nothing to do with how good the build is, there is a tipping point where a build like that cannot function because it cant output enough damage.
im sure it'll be fine if you dont juice your maps or other content though, you might only die once every 3 maps then.
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>>549299264
Member how bad D4sissies were seething after niggaran and friends swept the world firsts?
PoE1 GVDS cannot stop winning
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>>549299285
>What's up with brown people shitting in the street?

Just flush anon.
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Gun to your head, would you be able to pick which one is the real woman in this picture?
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>>549299612
>there is a tipping point where a build like that cannot function because it cant output enough damage.
You are actually retarded, the damage ceiling on gear in poo2 is absurd.
Read the patch.
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>>549299706
Trick question the answer is neither.
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Are there specific talismans for dragon? Will they be available early?
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>>549299706
i see a whale and a man
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POOP
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>>549299602
yeah but its only good for bossmelting, absolutely dogshit for packs thou
Aoe looked pathetic during introduction

>>549299706
is the one on the left actually female?
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>>549299706
Trick question. They are both beautiful women
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>>549299706
I want the left one to sit on my face and the right one to punish my ass. If you know you know
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>>549299825
That's me anon. Take this information as you will
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>>549299826
Ironic faggotry is still faggotry and you are still a faggot
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there's going to be shapeshift form MTX
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Just bring back flasks charms are retarded
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why did they waste a shit ton of dev time making new rune mods and special passive tree nodes for a single ascendancy when they could have literally just made something non-retarded instead?
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>>549299706
If you don't want velyna to choke you out with her thighs while she blows bong smoke into your face and berates your builds you're a homosexual
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>>549299608
Cute and smart, why are you fags lusting after a tranny lookalike when this exists?
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>>549299983
>finding pretty women attractive is faggotry
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>>549299991
i think its leading reason why they decided to give every class ability to shapeshift
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>>549299602
it needs glory or rage or some shit and has a cooldown innit?
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>>549299706
Such a violent mogging. God damn.
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>>549299791
Not sure, this one in the vid only seem to have bear and wolf option. Maybe dragon is a higher level one or they have different options on them
https://youtu.be/FrVqIgJTIlI?t=39
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>>549299608
Leave my wife alone!
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>>549299706
The left is a woman who has thighs and breasts to sustain childbirth and rearing and the right is a failed male
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>>549300027
Same reason why they spent all that time putting specters into the game instead of making sure they didn't release one of the worst patches in the history of gaming
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>>549300027
because GGG devs have no foresight
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>cease pool
lmao, jeets please! I can only take so much
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>>549299791
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>>549300087
>why are you fags lusting after a tranny lookalike when this exists?
its fun
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>>549300027
Shut up
Its kino ascendancy
Tons of options and thematically makes sense
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>>549300186
6s cool down and it doesn't consume rage for the first 4 seconds.
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>>549300027
because they wanted to. they can pretty much do whatever they want at this point, the game is successful and they have no competition.
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What is with GGG and not working on / releasing what is obviously most important for a given release? Example, with druid coming, you would have expected an ascendancy geared towards transforming. Why isn't there one? We basically got two spell caster ascendancies for a class that has melee options as well. Why?
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>>549300027
The hidden passive skills one got me.
The tree isn't remotely done yet. What the fuck are they doing
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Pretty much every single nomad passive tree node is going to be nerfed by 75%+ throughout this patch and next league
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Mark said in the interview that druid was busted. How are you queers going to cope when it dominates the leader boards and everyone is loving it? The transformations and animations look sick. It's going to be super fun to play and super strong. Me and all my boomer friends can't wait to play it. Stop hating things just because they are new.
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>>549300372
Yes, but you only get the basic attack of the form selected. The dragon's is that wing cleave.
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>>549300460
why did they give bear only 4 skills? Why are there no nature summons? Why is there a simon says ascendancy node?

Why do they do any number of retarded things that they do? Because they are retarded.
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>why did they spend time on their best chance for success

The self defeatism of brownoids is truly a marvel. You will die brown.
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Post a SINGLE (1) build as Soulful as the tripfags
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>>549299706
Yes
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>>549300553
>Mark said in the interview that druid was busted
Was he playing bugged twister on it?
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>>549300553
So true boss! I can't wait to have an absolute BLAST in this incredible patch GGG have created. They have really outdone themselves this time!
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>>549300674
AI sure can do some wild things these days.
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>>549300635
>The best chance for success is a single node that requires a complete revisiting of the entire passive tree
Nigga pls
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>>549300645
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABgMCZwFvBAcNjxBYEQ8RLRFQEmkUsBccGMIachslHRQdTx3ZIbAlXyeDKU8qjSsILJwtHy6UL9Yv2jHCMjQzsDT3Nbk2xTbYOlg7P0NURKtJG0lPS65MLVMOVa5VxlZIVytYMWEoZp5qq2w9bRlw13F5cYV5sXyDghCCHoKbg9uGyodliG-Leox2j0aPppUgly2XhZfBnjyhI6cIpyun-KyYrTuvt7UEtzG8qsHzw23IE8-D1AfYJNlb2rna3dyN34rfsOkC6-7sOOxV8Wz0cfrSAARedIhvi-INj3OSaqt7RBjC?accountName=kohd_Sayonara%237623&characterName=Kohd_Sayonara

My first build
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>>549300674
I'm going to jerk off to this
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Isn't this kind of busted? Most weapons have 5-10% base crit. Yes giving up iron runes hurts, but you can go from 5% to 8.75% base crit on bows and maces with an exceptional base. This is not one of the runes with Limit 1.
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>>549300635
who are you quoting nigger?
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>>549300770
This but unironically. H8ters are boring, get on board or get left behind.
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Why does path of exile 1 and 2 have absolutely no cultural impact? It's very popular with streamerfags, their teaser vids for a league gets millions of views and their leagues always top steamcharts but you dont see poe shit anywhere? You dont see any poe fan art and the very few is terrible AI slop, you dont see people care about poe lore. You dont see people talk about the story or aesthetics or bosses casually. Its always about muh builds, muh number go up and shit talking the game/devs. Its like poe doesnt exist outside of the bubble thats created and its quickly consoomed and discarded and then forgotten a week after a league launch

Poe 1 and 2 might as well not be a game with a community and fans. It might as well be a cookie clicker people come to every 4 months to get their quarterly year shot just to leave and actually passionately care about other franchises that mean something to them

It has negative cultural impact compared to an elden ring, bladurs gate 3, silksong or expedition 33. Its just junk food
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>>549299516
They'll probably make some dedicated uniques like that, but stats will keep being generalized, no commonplace form specific boosts. Those just make gearing needlessly annoying, tedious and railroad. I presume they want each form have a range between more magic or strength scaling abelites. So you'll be incentivized to switch at least to human and cast spells for combos.
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>two instant brown seethies

kek

>>549301029
Unironically POE2 is their chance for that, impact meaning exposure and attention paid, it has the potential to draw the largest audience. That's why it's the way forward.
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>>549301029
This but Magic the Gathering. Lots of popular things dont have the ability to carry themselves in that way and are meant to be niche.
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>>549300921
You can get 4 sockets on exceptional talisman so 10%
Ascendancy is guaranteed to be busted, since you can get like 22 sockets in total on your gear (invictus)
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>>549301029
Because the game is ugly, it's made by ugly autists who only care about bing bing wahoo number go up. You aren't going to reach the hearts of the masses like that.
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>>549299608
>i work in software
yeah no im good get fucked bitch
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>>549301147
>two instant brown seethies
it really do be like that
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>>549301029
Too esoteric. In endgame it's just an arms race for how fast a player can rub on rogaine VS how bald the developers can get.
PoE2 was an attempt at this but has been a colossal failure in that sense. If anything it's even worse than poe1 as a clickerfied clown show except everything takes 10x as long
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a lot of ceasing posts happening in this thread right now....
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>>549301285
>the game is ugly
not really
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>>549301569
That's your opinion but it isn't the one held by the majority.
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>>549300674
kurwa
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Fubcels be like
>So what if they nerfed Tailwind to make it so you take 1000% increased damage and drains 5% of your life per second, it's still the best ascendancy node in the game!
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>>549301569
Agreed. Their art department is probably the most consistent in the industry. In POE2 the game even looks good when you zoom in and examine stuff unlike the shit models of POE1.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqZs8tQq8U
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>>549301640
do you have an example of an arpg that looks better than path of exile 2?
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this skip the campaign campaign is getting really tiresome
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>5 sockets from invictus
>3 sockets from gloves
>3 sockets from boots
>3 sockets from helm
>4 sockets from Weapon
>2 sockets from Darkness Enthroned
TWENTY SOCKETS
Looks insane for just 2 asc points
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>>549301029
There is disconnect between the adventurous fantasy imagination nature of action rpgs and pure math speed autism. Diablo cashed into atmosphere and action game first, moody, evoking presentation second and arpg 6th. PoE1 is all about stats and builds and blasting hard in public eye. PoE2 tries to be more of a action game with atmosphere and story vs stat spreadsheet. That clashes with core audience who are all minmax blasters and don't care for gameplay or even visuals, outside of formula results and distrating from clearing. Yet still not simple enough for action oriented, loot-shoot common gamer.
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>>549301814
The fact that you can't understand the difference between pixel count and beauty means there is no further point to this conversation. The game refuses to make characters anyone wants to look at. There is a reason people farm or buy mtx that hides your body.
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using skill combos on white mobs?
naw, think ill pass lol
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>>549301814
There are literally none, zero. D4 was clearly the leader before it came out, LE was also ranked but I don't remember that much since I only played the first 2 "patches". After POE2 everything else looks like a mobile game.
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>>549301687
If you take 200% more damage over 10% movement speed in poe2 you are poor or stupid, simple as
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>>549302042
That's your opinion but it isn't the one held by the majority.
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>>549301951
how many things will be on my gear with this?
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>>549302047
>using skill combos on white mobs?
>mobs
>mobS
Dont worry, in few years it will be just 1 big white mob
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Let's not pretend that Diablo 3 or 4 was a cultural phenomenon, /poeg/. I know you want to be an epic contrarian troll and all, but have some standards for fucks sake.
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>>549302042
as a poe2 hater: stfu retard stop trying to sound cool
if the game devs were even half as qualified as the artists this game would be amazing
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>>549302158
On the contrary the majority of people think jonathan is a fat sack of shit who has never had a good idea once in his life.
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>>549300027
it's so they can make the oracle passive trees nodes baseline 3 patches from now
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>>549302002
yeah i think poe 2 was doomed from the start. Just look at this fucking general for a year now, its just JONATROON JONATROON POOP TUB JONATROON POO TWO JONATROON 24/7 all because he wanted to create a more atmospheric ARPG that wasnt about butt blasting to the endgame and pinnacle bosses

I honestly feel bad for jonathan but baldman started it with creating the most hyper autistic numbers go up faggots on the planet so pushing anything but blasting cookie clicker slop is forever gonna trigger them
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I say in the patch notes they are changing something about the Titan Ascendancy. Why did they decide to change whatever it was? Was it that thing that made all your hits crushing blows which would brick bone shatter?
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>>549301687
unironically yes and I dont see anything wrong with your sarcastic statement.
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>>549302295
cant wait
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>>549302258
a meltie over jonathan, i didn't see that coming.
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>>549302228
Diablo 3 is the best selling arpg of all time and was played by millions of people a decade after it came out. No other arpg has even come close to it's success. Please stop spouting baseless bullshit.
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How does poe ninja even index poe2 characters? Are they on the website somewhere?
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>>549301814
literally any game where you can actually see what's happening on screen
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>>549302228
i made thousands off d3 auction early on so cant really complain but it was turbo shit, d4 is marvel movie of arpgs, flashy and appealing to normies and forgettable after 3 days
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>>549300553
Preach it Brother! I know I'm going to have an absolute blast playing volcano meteor druid!
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>>549302465
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>>549302354
>all because he wanted to create a more atmospheric ARPG that wasnt about butt blasting to the endgame and pinnacle bosses
Then why is poe2 about butt blasting to the non existent endgame? The dark souls esq boss fights they showed off before launch don't even exist. There are a few extra hours of struggle before the two games become almost indistinguishable from each other aside from graphics.
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>>549302426
Diablo 3 has had zero cultural impact. No one but the most retarded of faggots look back on D3 and think of good things.
You citing sales is proof that you're not even human, you're some sort of sentient cockroach that eats shit.
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>>549302354
Good thing brown's opinions don't shape the game as much as revenue. POE2 is going to make GGG successful, it's the way forward.
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>>549302484
looks good enough
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>>549302228
d3 was a cultural phenomenon because everyone was talking about how shitty it was on release
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>>549302603
Everyone knows what diablo is. Only perma online autists such as yourself has any clue what path of exile is. You lost, diablo will forever be etched as the definitive arpg in the cultural zeitgeist.
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>>549302674
Yep, POE2 looks fantastic. It is the weirdest cope you could try and it instantly outs your skin color.
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>he is a jingakh
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>>549302769
You are RAPED
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>>549302818
>another low IQ that doesn't know the difference between art style and pixel count
This general sure attracts a lot of melted brains.
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>>549302580
because they are stuck. They were hoping people would like the more slow burn feel of poe 2 but people seethed that a white mob pack didnt die in one button and bosses take more than 5 seconds to kill. I wouldve liked if poe 2 went in the more hardcore route of everything being able to kill you easily and bosses take a good amount of effort to put down but people cried for poo 1 again so they are turning it into poo 1.5
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>>549302945
poe2 has a great art style.
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>>549302945
I said earlier their art team was the most consistent in the industry, I was talking about their art direction too in that.
This is for POE2 specifically though, I know they don't give a shit about their Kingsmarch simulator.
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>>549302893
>strawman
Concession accepted.
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>>549301029
because poefags are the equivalent of dementia patients at the poker machines
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>>549303108
Why is there no /d4g/, dilator? Where's the /d4g/?
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>>549303141
When I think of poe players the first thing that comes to mind is that video of a row of boomers (true) sitting in front of slot machines just slamming on the screen over and over as graphical explosions happen.
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>>549303141
>>549303141
I'm at the Buffalo slot machines
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>>549302674
true poe2 doesn't have any visual clarity problems, please post a lot of feedback indicating that on their forums so that the game's visual clarity never improves (because it doesn't need to of course)
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>>549302426
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casual couch+controller ssf homebrew players are eating good. as long as my wyvern druid (every attack sends me back a few feet and has a long windup) can beat the act 2 boss im in the clear. playing maps in this game is peak retardation and you should get a job if you’re even considering it.
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>>549303003
>but people
Only faggots on here, normal people liked it. But jonathan is a faggot and listened to faggot streamers and got us where we are today.
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>heh, those poe boomers and their slot machines... now if you'll excuse me it's time to pull the baal lever for the 398th time today
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>>549303375
yeah poe2 is a nice little mindless weekend game, doesn't need to be anything more than that
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>>549303318
so the game looks great you just don't like hectic combat?
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>>549303459
based d2hater
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>>549301569
>not really
POE 1 is ugly AF. Especially the campaign. The Heist has some good looking locations, but the entire campaign looks like dogshit. When you start playing and it's the early acts it's just BLEH.

POE 2 looks fucking good. The presentation is amazing, starting with Act 1 and Act 2 it's all WOW all the time. they even made different colors of san to liven up the fucking desert, that's crazy.

>>549301029
The reason why POE 2 doesn't have mainstream appeal like the Souls games with streamers shilling the Executioner Displates is because the game is very niche and enthusiast focused.
Dark Souls was simple as a stick, literally everyone could figure out the game based on rolling, hitting and sipping.
POE 2 is much simpler than POE 1 but it's still a mechanical nightmare to figure out, an average normie doesn't have the commitment to figure out a POE 2 build.
>some rando on the internet
>playing lightning strike monk
>lightning staff (makes sense right?)
>armor + eva gear (because staff is Str+Dex)
>no ascendancy (what's an ascendancy?)
>no cold damage and no frenzy charge conversion (it's a lightning damage build, no?)
>permastuck in Act 2 (the mobs don't die when i hit them)
>the entire skill tree is crit nodes (I need more damage, right?)

This dude is in Act 2 and he already needs a 3 hour lecture on how to play the game, he doesn't know what an ascendancy is, he doesn't know about the resonance, doesn't know how to scale the damage, doesn't know shit really.

POE 1 needs 300 hours to figure out, POE 2 still needs 100. It's still impenetrable to a random normie while Dark Souls only required you to block and sometimes roll.
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>>549303329
Another strawman, quality of the product has no connection with cultural impact. Next thing you'll tell me that marvel movies had no cultural impact because they were bad.
Why are poe 2 fags so bad at logical discussion? Are they just dishonest?
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>Druid Oracle Asc
>Take damage from Mana before Life if Mana is Higher than Life
>Minus T H I R T Y F I V E P E R C E N T life and mana
What the fuck is GGG smoking with this dogshit MoM knockoff? Druid's already next to all the MoM nodes anyway
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>>549303598
yes? i was agreeing with you, are you okay?
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>>549303649
What's the cultural impact of Diablo 3?
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>>549303562
Whats crazy is that people still play it WAY longer than POE1 which has decades of endgame systems. It's going to get scary after a few more leagues...
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>>549303598
man that looks so good
I really wanted poe2 to be like that throughout the whole game including the end game
I hate streamerfags and poe1fags so much for ruining everything
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>>549303697
I thought it was 15 each?
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>>549303459
real D2 enjoyers played it once or twice on hell difficulty and never touched the game again. Its 1% of D2's playerbase that kept hitting the slot machine to get pointless items that nobody but a few autists care about

this kind of autism spawned chris and the mistake that is poo 1 autism
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>>549303697
Nevermind I'm a bit of a tard, 15% less on both is still fucking retarded though
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>>549303743
they objectively don't but that's fine
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>>549303459
SVOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
Zoomtrannys will never understand the heart pumping adrenaline excitement of furiously clicking the corpse trying to beat out everyone else to grab the good loot drops.
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>>549303729
retard
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>>549303860
So you're saying D2fags just run the campaign over and over again... and that's it? Would POE1 be more appealing if you had to run through the campaign 3 times over?
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>>549301569
Poe 2 looks fantastic. They just insist on making super dangerous mechanics like mines be barely visible among all the other shit. I can deal with all other bs, even if that makes game tedious, like navigating among traps or weirdly spaghetty geometry
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>>549303794
Small tard moment on my part but it's still pretty ass considering it doesn't even give you ES damage splitting and druid has no way to mana scale that well compared to Sorcfu. I'm not terribly impressed even if Traveler's Wisdom seems cool enough and the other Druid's spell rage is a neat mechanic. That said though, it seems vastly inferior to Bloodmage/Lich/Sorc shenanigans
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>>549303953
made me laugh
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>>549304079
the real D2 end game is running the campaigns 200 times across 200 different mods
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>>549304079
I'm saying D2fags treat the game like how dark souls fags treat their games. They play it to the end, beat the boss, MAYBE beat it on nightmare/hell and then never touch the game again
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poe1 players broke into my apartment and stole my jewelry last night then put it back before i woke up just to mess with me and tell me that they have copies of my key
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>actually people play POE1 for longer

keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

This the culmination of decades of league... the worst league yet. This is a good thing tho!
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>>549303743
>It's going to get scary after a few more leagues...
>poe2 is going to filter the mentally ill out of society since they'll be playing the full 4 months of a new league and then jumping right into the new one
johnathon.......i see now..............you had the worlds best interests at heart..........i kneel
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>>549304347
Doesn't count because poe 2 was stealing dev time. If poe 2 didn't exist this league would have been wildly successful.
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I love speedrunning d2, it's so fun unironically, very rewarding. Becoming a VFX fountain through esoteric mechanic knowledge was fun like 3 times max in poe1.
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uhhhh poe2bros what do we do about this...
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>>549299058
LA is buffed once you outgrow lightning rod, genius
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>>549303459
This is based
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>/poeg/: I HATE THE CAMPAIGN I DONT WANNA CAMPAIGN AAAAAAAUUUUUUGH AUUUUUUUUGH *crying vomiting sounds* AUUUUUUUGEEEEEEUUUUUGH
>also /poeg/: POE needs to be more like Diablo and have you run the campaign on harder difficulties and that'll be the entire endgame yep :)
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>>549304116
Yeah I tried to pob some stuff to make that node work and it never seemed great to me. The only way I can manage to get a decent mana pool is with EB, and when I get that mana pool, I probably have enough mana sustain that I don't mind the 50% less recovery in regular MoM. The way it's worded also seems like it doesn't actually raise your 1-shot EHP since it's determined per hit
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>>549304079
they are literally trying to bring that kind of experience back into poe 2. that explains the lack of endgame content and the sheer amount of focus on the campaign.
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>>549304347
These are great numbers
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>>549304515
Higher retention than half of poe1 leagues looks pretty good to me.
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>>549304549
i look and talk like this
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>>549304617
most intelligent poe2 player
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>>549304515
its crazy that they hit a goldmine with 0.1 and then threw it away because jonny thought he was cooking
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>>549304515
>dawn of the hunt with over half the classes and ascendancies missing, with no endgame, with the worst atlas, with weapons and skills literally marked as "coming soon", in a paid game versus the newest league in a game with decades of history

KEK

Keep posting this please you save me the time of snipping it myself
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>>549304347
>>549304515
>complete f2p 10 year old game that gets hyped up by content creators gets a fragment of the players
>beta paywall game that gets shit on by every content creator in a pathetic attempt to bring it down but still goes strong
honestly it's looking pretty over for poe1 after another year of poe2 updates
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it'll be good in twenty years. TRUST THE PLAN
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>>549304549
>/poeg/: I HATE THE CAMPAIGN I DONT WANNA CAMPAIGN AAAAAAAUUUUUUGH AUUUUUUUUGH *crying vomiting sounds* AUUUUUUUGEEEEEEUUUUUGH
POE 1 players.
>>549304549
>POE needs to be more like Diablo and have you run the campaign
POE 2 players.
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The hype for 0.5 is going to be insane. We're coming off a bad patch which people will always assume will bounce back. We'll have the massive endgame rework, probably templar or dualist and swords. We might not hit a milly but it's going to be 800k easy.
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>>549304556
Didn't EB get assraped? And if I remember correctly 100% MoM is possible with just items and skill points. It just seems like frankly questionable design (again) considering all the balancing they've done previously between 0.1 to 0.3 to prevent certain archetypes from becoming too dominant or meta and then they make a mistake of printing out something that may have been strong before they did 800 nerfs. Same thing with Ritualist and Ingenuity. Kind of a red flag considering it has taken them almost a year to release druid as one of the most complete characters in the game before EA
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>>549304792
Oh and don't forget the actual player count, would you rather trade with 25% of 80k people or 25% of 300k people. I know math is hard for you browns so I'll allow you to ask chatgpt I know you're fascinated by that.
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Maul, Rampage, Ferocious Roar, Furious Slam, Walking Calamity
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>>549304549
I like everything poe desu
I'm am deranged lunatic
Don't come near me or I'll make you enjoy the game too motherfucker
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>>549304771
The Nerfhammer to a fully functional and fun game was definitely absurd but I think 0.3 definitely corrected quite well. The nerfs especially I feel were heavy handed with how much they course corrected in .3
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>>549303296
My wife fkn loves that one.
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>>549305185
do u wear thigh highs and a chastity cage and if so what's ur discord
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>>549305000
>the shills are already potentialposting about the next league before the current one has even started yet
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>>549300553
Didn't mark also say infusions were busted? And warrior was busted?
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do people not realize all mobs are getting over double health in the highest juiced maps?
all the 0.3 giga damage builds died, you wont be able to ignore defenses anymore lest you throw all your maps in the garbage or run baby maps
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>>549305362
Warrior is busted get gud.
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>>549305000
>hype for 0.5 will be insane
>Either Act 5 drops with a character (hype) or we get jack shit because they reworked core game mechanics yet again
These doodoo patches with 1 character each are going to really ruin the hype for the game. If I remember correctly Act 5 is only about the size of act 1/2 so it's not on the larger side, and Act 6 is basically micro sized. They'd have to release 5 and 6 at the same time (they won't) to really match the Act4 hype
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>muh culture
I try out dozens of builds every league
I listen to POE music every league
I get in arguments and schizo theories about POE lore every league
I get a front row seat to POE eceleb drama every league
I post esoteric POE memes and force them even in the most inappropriate social situations every league

Meanwhile *your* culture is seeing a Diablo 4 ad at the Superbowl or some incredibly gay shit. You lame as fuck, boy. Now if you'll excuse me:
https://youtu.be/u2vRZx1IC-g?t=42
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My first druid will be Vore Build. Strength to overpower and Nom you whole. Int power to digest you faster for mana and HP regen.
Itadakimasu!
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>>549305362
>infusions were busted?
200% more damage and 6 more chains for Arc seems pretty busted to me
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>>549305372
>do people not realize all mobs are getting over double health in the highest juiced maps?
They do not replace the monster pack modifiers with monster fat modifiers.

They simply make it 40% less regular mobs and add 40% more life to regular mobs (and 40% drop quant)
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I want a game that looks like Poe 2 and plays like last epoch. I want a bunch of S tier builds that are all fun to play and don’t require a PhD in unemployment and 100% of your free time to get online.
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>>549305774
so what? deadeye niggers can 1shot rare packs in deli t15 maps with their autoattack. autoattack! now that deli jucing is gone high end rare monster will be easier by default anyway.
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>>549305739
hmmmmmmmm
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Removal of homo orb is good, I didn't even use it or have it drop for me, and only crafted with abyss stuff , the devs should look at my account because I'm the peak bell curve example of a midwit, also glad they added a limit to the runes and also lower level of +levels, I need to keep finding broken stuff for them to nerf
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>>549305774
quant modifiers got changed to (health + quant), if you want any endgame juice you have to increase mob health even further
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>>549305774
I hope so the current endgame scaling is bricked. Going up map tiers should actually require incremental gear upgrades
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>>549305962
>and plays like last epoch
Please god no
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>>549305372
anon people were doing 10x more damage than they needed to in this game
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>>549303873
It means you'll ping pong between being hit by life or mana. You are basically .85x2 hp if you can get decent regeneration or leech on both i imagine some recoup as well
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>>549304931
it's leaving early access in a league or two, for the last 7-8 months jonathan has explained what they are doing and why they are doing it.
doomers are too busy counting imaginary wins so this shit is going to hit them like a ton of bricks.
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>>549305769
Infusions were fun
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>>549304204
No they don't. D2 fags started the trend of autismo grinding
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>>549306325
and they lost it all with the patch
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>>549306361
is this same jonathan who is "pretty sure" the game is leaving EA in 2026, it just has to actually be good first
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>>549306573
....?
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>>549305340
he's right though, even leagues are filler in poo2. amazon was a trash league too
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>>549298728
Not even a billion filters can hide his man visage.
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>>549306583
what do you think it needs in order to leave early access?
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>>549298550
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
NO NEW ACTS OF EXILE 2
NO SWORDS OF EXILE 2
NO TOTA OF EXILE 2
NO ENDGAME CHANGES OF EXILE 2
NO CHALLENGES OF EXILE 2
NO PALADlN OF EXILE 2
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>>549306350
>end up in a shit situation
>your energy shield (5-8k of it) takes the brunt of the assrape
>Either go into mana saving mode or health saving mode
>can no longer fight back because one hit decided to delete your mana
>still haven't recovered ES
It seems kind of bad even if the intended purpose is ping-ponging. Let's say you (typically) would start with more health than mana without investment, a single bit hit would 1 hit kill you, meanwhile numerous small hits, where you wouldn't struggle because of Armor/ES, would just get ignored mostly anyway. This is only making you tanky against something you're already good at or in freak situations or with crazy mana/stat investments. I see your argument though but currently I can't exactly see it being good, especially if like that one anon said it functions when hit to determine what resource gets depleted first.
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>me enjoying poe2 while faggots on poeg complain about bullshit
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0.5 is Act 5 + Templar+Shadow + TOTA
It will be the kinoest of kinos and /poeg/ will run the streets brown with seethe shits
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>>549306793
>one hit deletes your energy shiel>second hit deletes your mana
Sounds like a build or dps problem. No encounter in poe2 can cause this
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>>549306137
>>549306289
>if you want any endgame juice
Thank god they removed the map instilling. The delirium in POE 2 is unbearable both because of the fog and beacuse of the invisible mobs popping in.

Either you cuck yourself by ignoring the meta mechanic or you suffer the dogshit experience.

Simply removing the mandatory delirium is the endgame rework I asked for. And they even made the delirium mirrors less shit WOW that's like a brand new mechanic being introduced into the game for me.
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>>549306859
you're the one in the cage, being pointed at by everyone outside of it
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>>549306746
i dunno ask jonathan, obviously they aren't planning on actually finishing it
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>>549307019
sounds like the average experience of a non-armor build that doesnt delete the screen (all of them in 0.4)
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Poocels want to play the same game with no innovation for the rest of their lives. That's just sad.
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>>549307029
>solution: remove delirium instead of fixing it
great game poo2tranny
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>>549306964
You're never getting an act and new character release together. Why would GGG fuck themselves over by releasing that much in 1 patch
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>>549307134
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you know that poe 2 doomers aren't serious because one of their core criticisms is that Path of Exile 2 will never release
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>>549307297
jonathan said 1.0 in 2026 so there
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>>549306964
didn't you say the same about 0.4? how'd that go for you?
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>>549307396
you good bro?
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>>549307118
>he doesnt know what a glass door to the outside looks like
DA DWAGON IS MWAZED
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>>549307019
>>549307180
The Abyss rare with the laser and the palpatine hands one in 0.3 could unironically deal 9k elemental damage in a single hit, the palpatine one was dealing like 4k dps with all of his bullshit, and this was on top of the retarded abyss mechanics. Safe to say it's not as absurd as you might think that you might just get assraped without being able to do much
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>>549306793
>your energy shield (5-8k of it) takes the brunt of the assrape

The node doesn't make any sense for an ES build, but if you go life, mana and armor you basically get 170% life and combines life + mana sustain
>one hit reduces life (your mana regenerates)
>other hit reduces mana (your life regenerates)

It's fucking good.
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>>549307506
don't worry about, poo2 will never release.
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>>549299706
You now remember that absolute horrid tranny stench suffocating every person when ever Larry passed by at exilecon.
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>>549307279
>solution: remove
If something is mandatory and literally everybody does it - just make it the baseline.

That's a good solution.
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>>549307631
playing oracle in the first place sounds so shit though
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what build should i play for 0.4?
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>>549307297
>4 characters left
>2 acts left (both smaller than Act 4)
>Still missing real endgame mechanics Jonathan wanted
>Druid no longer wasting months of dev time trying to make him not feel like shit (hopefully)
>Jonathan wanted swords (duelist) before release in 1.0
>Only 3 patches per year
They have to pretty much or they won't make release before 2027. If it goes like
>Act 5 TOTA 0.6
>Duelist 0.6
>Act 6 + Endgame 1.0
I think they'd leave a lot of mad players for having a terrible patch schedule
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>>549300027
They love reworks, and now they can rework every node and pathing when ever they introduce a new class or node. Expect a total rework of the tree every league!
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>>549307790
but they didn't make it a baseline. they removed it.
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>>549307631
Life Mana and Armor on a spellcaster ascendancy? On a class with the closest defense nodes being ES + Armor? I don't doubt it's possible but I personally cannot see it being good
>>549307927
Part of my problem with it also is half of the nodes being a named skill we can't read yet
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>>549307963
Didn't they already say they aren't going to have all the planned content in before the game leaves EA, they're just going to shit it out whenever they want the marketing boost
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>>549305062
I think this finally mindbroke them lol
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>>549300674
>>549299706
That chick on the left has a fat ass you can see it from the front its that thick its either slampigging or basedjack fat bitch meming either way would
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>>549308068
>but they didn't make it a baseline. they removed it.
They buffed the tablets and allowed you to roll 4 mods on them.

The tablets are about 250% as good as before
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>>549308131
Half the nodes are named skills, the other half are the passive tree nodes we can't see yet (which also I just don't like in general), the third half are those terrible crit nodes. Hopefully the updated oracle ascendancy is slot better then the preview shit that got posted
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>>549308309
nobody wants to argue with somebody who will move the goalposts so blatantly
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>>549308348
>rolling
anon, you get the tablets you get, there's no real opting in or out of the challenge, unlike choosing to instil or not instil your waystones before
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Campaign focus vs open endgame focus
Trade vs no trade
Target farming vs crafting

Despite what some of these ARPG devs have put out, not everything fits together
Which one is your ideal combination?
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>>549308131
>Life Mana and Armor on a spellcaster ascendancy? On a class with the closest defense nodes being ES + Armor? I don't doubt it's possible but I personally cannot see it being good

Oracle seems like a weird anything ascendancy.
There's a notable for totems, another notable we don't know, and a notable that adds additional skills we don't know.

Maybe oracle can be a fucking insane life stacking totem build.
Maybe the unseen skills make him an attack class, there are gloves that allow you to use strength for any weapon, who knows what happens with that.
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soooooo.......what about the "leak" saying div cards were coming to poe2 in this patch
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>>549308662
Poch nailed it, the solo extra drops mechanic is perfect. I would kill for a poe version like that so I can forget about trading forever.
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>>549308739
it was all made up y some schizo in here, what did you expect
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>>549308516
An argument presupposes the other side has a point. This is just numbers. The game with no content according to him attracts as many or more players and retains them longer than the game with decades of experience and content, in its newest offering.

kek
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>>549308739
It's possible it's part of the temple. Last patch had an entire hidden ascendancy and this one likely has one too (tree form)
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>>549308739
sorry poe2 isn't allowed to have good things
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>>549308231
Jonathan said 1.0 release would at MINIMUM have
>swords (and therefore duelist)
>all six acts
>more endgame bosses/content
So something like a Shaper/Elder to pair with the Arbiter, never mind a proper context for the endgame. I assume at least an expedition rework as well. Everything else is merely a potential bonus but GGG is going to look really lazy if their current update schedule stays the way it is now that they can't push back druid and core reworks endlessly. What else do they have left to do? The endgame is "fixed", support gems are "fixed", skill tree is "fixed", it's just characters and content now
>>549308370
I hope so too
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>>549308739
Everything delayed because league mechanics take up 90% of their time. We're only getting 10% actual new content each patch.
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>>549308516
Instilling was as much of a choice as using the tablets or slamming the waystones was.

Instilling sucked ass, it was ruining the visual clarity, swarmed you with invisible mobs and was an annoying stash busywork, and not instilling meant you're losing money and falling behind the economy.

Now you're free to run the delirium mirrors is you like them.
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>>549308826
>Poch nailed it
Jesus fucking christ it nailed nothing it's a dead game that plays like shit is the most Reddit trash game ever created that no one plays stfu about your retarded grifter game
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>>549308728
You have a lot more faith than I do. The press kit version looks terrible but this was also back when Druid was a slow as molasses class
>>549308739
Div cards are TOTA drops iirc
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>>549308987
>The endgame is "fixed"
i sure fucking hope not
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>>549308826
if only they could have nailed shipping a good game
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>>549309139
Couldn't help but notice you didn't address the post and instead had to post a bunch of strawmen.
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I would have rather had a quadrilla form than a wyvern form tbqh
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Why are they treating the game like it's already out of EA?

I WOULD be coming back for a new act.
I WOULD be coming back for a new endgame.

I am NOT coming back for the same exact unfinished game + a league mechanic that'll be added in eventually anyway.
Go back to work.
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>>549308987
So 0.5 for the endgame + smaller league mechanic from poe1
0.6 for duelist + Delve
1.0 for act 5/6 (This isn't unreasonable to come together given how short they've said act 6 will be)
"Release" at the end of 2026
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>>549309146
>The press kit version looks terrible but this was also back when Druid was a slow as molasses class
They always showcase slow ass undergeared classes to avoid scaring the normies away with a zooming blasting seizure fest.
They are proud of their animations and attacks and they wanan show them.

Remember the monk press release? They showed him wrestling the mobs in act 3 while in reality monk was an offscreen blaster starting Act 2.
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i hate jonathan
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>>549309062
I agree, but the solution should not be
>let's just remove it :-)
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>browns exclaiming they are going to stay in kingsmarch doing gacha instead of playing poe2

Thank god
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>>549309192
Hence the quotations. I wouldn't expect more reworks though anytime soon
>>549309498
I wasn't counting league content but also
>Waiting a FULL year for 5 and 6
Jesus Christ, it's so painful I can believe it
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>>549309676
TRUTH APOCALYPSE
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>>549309695
out of curiousity, what exactly do you think gacha means?
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>>549309690
If you make a mistake the correct step really is a step back.
Instilling was a mistake, good thing they removed it.
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poe2 has no gacha mechanics
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>>549309943
the mistake is poo2, they should unrelease and abort it.
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>>549309347
How could i forget the solo drop mechanic what a truly innovative groundbreaking mechanic just give every SSF player several times better/more loot wow i love the game now if only PoE also could 10x my loot so i can get BIS day 1 i'm crying tears of joy how could they come up with such a innovation it's mind boggling
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>>549309504
Good reminder to everyone that this was the trailer for an Act 6 boss for 3.0. Even back then it was getting insta'd on live with regular leveling gear.
https://youtu.be/CK4ERkHbwWM?si=jKDciT4vBzdLrxUU
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Have they confirmed challenges for this league? If it calls itself league and has challenges, it's not early access anymore.
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>>549310043
I was going to say something mean but then I remembered you have nothing but the future of screaming into the void of a dwindling player base of a dead abandoned game and decided I don't need to.
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>>549310109
they aren't doing challenges for at least another year lol
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>>549310109
>he doesn't know
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>>549309854
I think it's a great word to use to cause a reaction. :^)
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>>549310109
No challenges
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>>549310224
yeah the reaction you caused was "that retard is clueless", i guess if you were going for that then hats off
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You are old enough and playing PoE for so long that you know Larry from before he transitioned.
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>>549310109
No free earnable mtx in the paid part of the game.
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>>549310168
lil bro accidentally looked in the mirror
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>>549310009
Welcome to steam, I hope you enjoy your stay.
You give your money, get no profit in return, then go about your business.
Not like every body is a Terry Watanabe but still, thanks for your business!
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>>549310391
Incorrect, I started playing PoE last year.
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>>549299224
literal mental illness
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/poeg/ doesn't know that Lil' Orb is real
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>>549310445
what
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>>549310168
>implying the dadgamers will stick around for poo2
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>>549310074
>How could i forget the solo drop mechanic what a truly innovative groundbreaking mechanic just give every SSF player several times better/more loot wow i love the game now if only PoE also could 10x my loot so i can get BIS day 1 i'm crying tears of joy how could they come up with such a innovation it's mind boggling
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What poe needs to be saved are celebrity skins. I would easily pay five hundred dollars for a jessica alba skin that shows off her cute butthole.
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>>549310707
>tfw flavor of the month turns into flavor of the year
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1.0 will release in Summer 2027
Late 2026 is a nono due to GTA VI
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>>549310707
The only players that stick with poe 1 are the aging autists slowly flaking off, growing disappointed or just dying.
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>>549310643
Terry Watanabe lost 350 million dollars playing slots, what I meant by my post is that steam is a casino, it has different games, but in essence it is a casino.
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>>549311000
you do realize the only time players came back in "good" numbers was when they added a new act. there is no new act in this one.
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>>549311057
poe2 mystery boxes have basically nothing to do with steam but alright
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Jon interview tomorrow?
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>>549311007
>GTA VI
POE has no overlap with GTA
GTA isn't even releasing on PC, and the consoles are definitelly not the POE's main player base.
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>>549310707
Doomies thought that after 0.2, then 0.3 hit over 300k. Anyone coming back for 0.4 seems pretty committed, so we'll see next weekend what the numbers are. Either they're doing it for the league mechanic, the new class, or just for the reset.
League mechanic reason is good. Poe2 will keep having league mechanics so they'll keep coming back.
New class is still fine because they're clearly willing to go through the campaign (the worst thing ever according to poe1eds) again
And the people who come back just for the reset are GGG's forever
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>>549310707
>le 19% retention face
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REMOVE KINGSMARCH GACHASLOP
YOU FAT FUCKING TROON
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>no one's hyped
>no one's coming back

AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You will die a brown person.
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>>549311093
you do realize that the 'bad' number was higher than poe1s all time high.
and why did they even come back in the first place? you said they weren't going to stick around, it's been a year.
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>>549311197
cs2 weapons, dota 2 skins, same model.
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>>549311429
>new game marketed out of the shit
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>>549311259
0.2 wasn't even bad. When 0.3 quietly rolled back the Zizaran's wishlist nobody complained.

The entire outrage around 0.2 was Mandela effect caused by the streamers all trying Huntress and having no fucking clue how to play her and forgetting how fucking hard 0.1 was initially.
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>>549311429
>why did they even come back in the first place
half of them didn't
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>>549311424
>views
What does that suppose to mean?
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>ALVA IS ATZIR-
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>>549301029
Poe1 story is shit. Poe2 at least is trying to do the story but it managed to make one (one) act like it meant to be, and literally killing any momentum in act2 with slay queen dindunuthing killstealer. Act 3 is too busy and random to be story good. Act 4 is the same. I has high hope at Act5 tho, killing the MC from the first game will be kino.
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>>549311000
>>549311259
>>549311429
>>549311424
0.4 will not even break 200k ccu and will be below 6 digits in a week once your le epic dragnrn class is a shit

screencap this post and come crawling back to suck my taint in 2 weeks retards
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>>549311660
you just love using random words and inventing facts to say absolutely nothing, huh?
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>>549311660
>Mandela effect
Being normally misled isn't the Mandela effect. The Mandela effect is when a group of people have the wrong recollection of an event.
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>>549311762
false flag post
Poe1ies are not that retarded
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>>549311762
no need, you already shat yourself big time with your epic 0.3 prediction
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>>549311625
so when are the dad gamers leaving, a few years?
>>549311685
the change in player count from 0.1 to 0.3 was ~37%
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>>549311898
pretty sure a solid 70% of the posts in this thread are falseflags
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>>549312063
That's /vg/, yeah.
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0.5 is going to revamp the endgame BIG TIME
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>>549312010
they left in droves for 0.2, 0.3 brought a couple back with a new act, and i suspect 0.4 will look like 0.2 on steroids
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>>549311784
>you just love using random words and inventing facts to say absolutely nothing, huh?
0.2 literally buffed physical damage, buffed the crossbows, buffed the minions, and nerfed the stuns.

Then people went in and started screeching that the game is unbearably hard. It didn't get any harder, not in the campaign anyway, the difference was that you came back to start from scratch after playing 10 twinks.

The difference between the first character and a twink is insane, you're going to have the gold to gamble for 2 iron rings, an amulet and a belt in Act 1 and skyrocket your progression.
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HROC or hydra spectres hc?
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>>549312142
wasn't 0.4 supposed to do that? whatever happened to that?
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>>549312010
Ignore the positive trend and most hyped class ahead of free weekend sir! Brown intellects don't understand this moment will bring in many new eyes and returning eyes that they will convert to long time customers.
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>>549312305
Mark said it was too big for 0.4
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>>549309504
I hope so anon
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>>549312347
so why do you think it's not gonna be too big for 0.5?
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>>549312307
oh right i forgot poe2 had a free weekend, thats cheating!
poe1 can't compete with a free weekend.
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>>549312305
sorry they were too busy making the passive tree less shit but only one ascendancy class
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>>549312480
ok doomie
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>>549312480
Retard.
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>>549311898
>>549311953
pussies
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>>549312265
0.2 overhauled the entire balance of the game to make everybody do less damage and then they walked it back like cowards with a 25% HP nerf within the first few hours of the game as droves of people started crying, nullifying all their previous balancing work.
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>>549312508
damn i forgot that poe2 had a free weekend and barely gained any players at all. remember when you guys thought it was going to hit like 800k because of that
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>>549312305
they did it in 0.3.1
>>549312347
he said there is gonna be more stuff to do
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>>549311739
Acts 1 + 2 are going to get a rework sometime down the road to be more like 3 and 4 iirc
>>549311762
This is cope, all of my normie friends refuse to play cause
>no druid
>where my druid
>le bear man hype
So at least 40% of the people I know who have the key don't want to play without druid
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>>549312307
POE 1 is on a free weekend every day of every week and that only brings 70K players day on of the league.

Are you implying that POE 2 would have a million active players when it releases for free?
I'd bet on 600K tops.
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>>549312551
i mean mark already PROMISED you that 0.4 had a big and good endgame rework months ago, and then it didn't because it was TOO massive.
what if the same thing happens again? we got precedent after all.
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>>549309676
shut up chris
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>>549312790
ok doomie
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>>549312508
poe1 has free weekends by default
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I mean we're all pretending about the bear thing, and going wyvern instead, right?
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>>549312859
>they already did this twice (once for poe1, and once for poo2)
>surely they won't do it a third time
hopetrannies can't be helped i guess
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can we talk about the performance improvements? doesnt that mean we have to deal with more 3rd worldies (jeets/pakis/huemonkes) playing on their toaster?
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>>549312909
Bear is going to be shit if it's balanced around having to summon the volcano
Wolf and wyvern might be cool
Watering the plants looks dumb as hell
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>>549312859
when someone says "promised" you can flush them right away, they can't read or disseminate information properly, something is wrong in their fucked up brains.

>>549312874
OH YEAH
>well they can't compete on an equal level cause it's just objectively better
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>>549309676
based
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>>549313052
>>549313012
ok doomie
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>>549313052
what? poe 2 has more players we know that
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>>549312674
>0.2 overhauled the entire balance of the game to make everybody do less damage
No that's wrong, because they added a fuckload of new support gems and the players ended up with more damage scaling than before.

They only nerfed the mob health because the retarded streamers lead the community outcry.

Johnathan even said it, the POE 1 diehards are too fucking old to learn new tricks and see the opportunities presented to them. They feel like 10000 hours in the old game entitle them to success in the new game without having to learn anything.
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where do all the hopetroons take the hope from? it
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>>549311762
PoE 2 in Asia doesn't run on Garena it runs on Steam China. PoE 2 will likely still break 200k since they will still be included in available player counts.
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>>549313320
retard
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>>549313305
You are the one hopeful for poe 2's failure. And hope is a shit plan.

I don't need a hope. I'm enjoying the game i play and I like where it's going too.
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>>549313320
Wake up, babe. The newest cope just dropped!
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>>549313206
Yeah in an unfinished game that you had to pay for, so why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences? I tried to get the guys I invited to POE2 to play and only 1 of the 5 even installed and launched it. (He enjoys maps and is 30/40 challenges now in his first league)

>>549313242
Just flush anon.

I want more people to play POE, but the first game is inviting them onto the titanic, and t's already hit the iceberg.
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POO 2
HUGE STINK
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>>549313468
i am not hoping for anything, i can see it right infront of me
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>>549313475
I guess if you don't know how it works you could call it cope. I'm just explaining how it works on our side.
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>>549313242
>because the retarded streamers
They should really consider laying down the law on some of those retarded e-grifters keep the ones who understand that their only purpose is to be a clown around
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>>549313320
>Garena
What the fuck? Garena is still a thing? I remember it used to be a pirate server for DotA
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the fact that poe2 already failed to garner new players during a free weekend is kind of grim for your hopes of a huge surge of new players when it becomes f2p
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>>549313528
>why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences?
It looks old and doesn't have WASD
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>>549313636
Garena died when PoE 1 came to Steam
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>>549313528
actually i'd love for poop2 to be good, but it just ain't and that makes me sad
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>>549313545
Me too anon, me too.
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poe1 vs poe2 discourse is so retarded
If GGG weren't dogshit apes both could be good, poe1 was on an 8man crew for years how can they not sustain that??
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>>549312790
doomers act like ggg are in some precarious position where they are struggling to stay afloat.
they own the genre, the game is a massive success and they can do whatever they want.
>ohhh no they only added a new class, 2 ascendancies, a bunch of skills and supports, and a new league mechanic
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>>549313737
divide it by 7 retard
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>>549313737
a pay to play game releases with a huge splash? wow, that is crazy.
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>2 INSTANT brownoid seethes

Yep.
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>>549313737
i cant tell if you guys keep posting this is a falseflag or if you actually don't understand how bad it looks
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>>549313778
yeah that only goes for so long though
poo2 don't have floating power, and we all know it
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I'm going to login to 0.4 and afk for 10 hours then uninstall.
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>>549313778
um wrong poe1 and poe2 are in a fight to the death RIGHT NOW
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>>549313528
>so why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences?
Multiple reasons.

1. POE 1 is old an the people don't want to invest their time into learning the game that's on it's way out. We live in a time economy, there's more games than time, they would play POE 2 or play DOTA while waiting for the release than to engage with a dying game.

2. POE 1 looks bad. The acts are ugly, the presentation is shit, and the campaign sucks dick.

3. Literally any build starts lame and awkward until you get your skill gems and your build comes online, which for a brand new player who doesn't know the loadouts is a good 20 hour investment.

POE 1 is frontloaded with bad experience, and for a new player that's a lot to get over, the new players don't beat the campaign in one evening.
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>>549314002
???????
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>>549314000
>kill long-term f2p success that basically makes itself for an identityless troon game that makes a big splash once and then has 0 incentive for users to stay
great business strategy, i wonder how that went for the last company that tried it
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>>549313606
>They should really consider laying down the law on some of those retarded e-grifters keep the ones who understand that their only purpose is to be a clown around
Didn't they quietly excommunicate Zizaran and replace him with Darth for the interviews?

I never seen Johnathan giving an interview to Ziz ever again. Which is well deserved by the way. His act back then was fucking unbelievable, literally a petulant child stomping his feet.
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What shapeshift form do you think will be the most useful? I am thinking bear form. Wolf form seems gay. Dragon form even gayer.
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>>549314328
when are the users leaving, and why are they dumping so much money into gggs pockets before they go?
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>>549314483
LET ME FINISH
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>>549314216
Do you think if they instead made POE2 the extension of POE1 as they wanted to it would be as popular?
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>>549314219
starlink in the farm, sometimes I dc between 5 to 6 time each run.
When I see I am kinda porting ahead or taking damage out of knowhere I have to hit "esc" and wait a little for the game to come back up.
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>>549314628
you dont get kicked out of the trial immediately anymore
if you get dc'd you have 15 minutes give or take, to log back in before getting kicked out of the trial
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>>549314576
i dunno, whenever is pend money on poe1 i never do it using steam. must be the new crowd.
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>poe1 patch
>hype off the charts even if league turns out to be shit later
>poe2 patch
>people never are hyped
really makes you think
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>>549314576
Actually anon the game that makes them more money isn't important, the f2p one that just recorded the lowest ever (ever) player retention is.
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>>549314000
>don't understand how bad it looks
>January 20205
>as good as 7 months POE 1
>one month
>70% of the POE1's annual revenue
>during the tail end of 0.1 with no league, no challenges and nothing going on

You have no fucking clue.
If POE 2 was outselling POE 1 by a factor of 7 with literally nothing going on, the merchant stash tabs must have outsold the entire lifetime of POE 1.
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>>549314574
Am I the only one that liked Arch Nemesis? I think the only bad part was the god touched mods that made people do degen shit.
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>>549314597
I dont watch their interviews very often did Ziz say this to him?
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>>549314967
Just flush next time anon. Post another chart that will mindbreak them.
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>>549314867
Thank you.
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the only things I know about POE are that the first game has a retardedly intricate skill tree system that basically requires extensive planning ahead of time so that you don't brick your character (or so I've heard), as well as the game is plagued by a draconian inventory system that requires typical gook-style "premium inventory subscriptions" to make it even passingly manageable. I know nothing about the second in regards to those same elements. As somebody who is desperately looking to scratch that FFX sphere grid itch, is POE2 worth playing? does it have retarded inventory limitations completely designed to funnel you into a premium inventory upgrade? what are the big pitfalls the game suffers from that deter non-super fans that I should be aware of?
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Does any of you, kind anons have some clips saved or youtube link to Ziz-john melty inverview.
Eceleb are cancer and they are all fake, but if Johny boy sperged out its real and i really want to watch it
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>>549314967
>merchant stash tabs must have outsold the entire lifetime of POE 1.
I just want to know how many of the bitching from people complaining they about stash tabs in a game they paid to play still bought stash tabs.
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>>549315042
He acted like a petulant manchild. It's on his channel to see I think if you can stand his faggot lisp.
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>>549315042
Yes, it was also the interview where he was complaining about getting BTFO'd by wolves in the Grelwood woods
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>>549314967
poe2 covered the cost of it's development by dec 4th 2024.
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>>549315324
>poe2 covered the cost of it is development by dec 4th 2024.
saaaar please do the needful and shill unil your shift is over saar
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>>549314894
dude nobody here actually likes poe2 lmao it's all just shitposting
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>>549315294
everybody knew already that jonathan is a manchild
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>>549315398
idk why this fucks you retards up so bad
https://youtu.be/ouwX0caU_es?t=684
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>>549315257
Jonatroon shat his tub in multiple interviews. He's a total sperg. Mark has to console him during the interview lol
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>>549315480
>browns when confronted with reality

They live in squalor and will die brown.
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>>549315480
saar thankings for the shillings you will be doing the needful and earnings 100 rupees
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>>549315480
He's talking strictly about the development costs. Not about the lost revenue from the lack of development in poe1 which is a very real revenue loss they sustained over that period
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>>549315181
>does it have retarded inventory limitations completely designed to funnel you into a premium inventory upgrade?
Kind of, but they're 1-time purchases (poe1 isnt subscription either for them), and the base $30 for access is enough to alleviate 90% of the inventory issues.
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>>549314618
>Do you think if they instead made POE2 the extension of POE1 as they wanted to it would be as popular?

No.
If POE 2 was just a major update to POE 1 people would still feel like they are getting into an old game with an old established player base who are all better than you and you will never reach the top of an old food chain.

With a brand new game it's like an economy reset, there's a feeling of a level playing field, nobody knows the game yet, you get to explore and learn along with the community, you get to be the first and grow, maybe you'll be the first guy to figure it out and get ahead of the pack.

Personally I felt like I can't get good at POE 1 after playing 600 hours, because the economy is ran by the people with 6000 hours and i'll never catch up to them.

Any old online game becomes impossible to enter once the player base is old. If you try to play somthing like Dota, League or SCGO right now as a brand new player you will get fucking destroyed. Even the lowest skill bracket all have 3000hours in it and know everything.
POE 1 isn't a PVP game, but the economy is competitive and the scarabs are priced in for the sweaty group farming veterans.
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you guys realize that poo2 was a giant failure not because of the numbers it's pulling, but because of what is going on at GGG since it got released?
several of the "masterminds" developing this turd quit, and with them the vision and direction left
- Chris
- Hrishi
- Rory Rackham
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>open raxx streams
>continuously talking for over 4 minutes now while saying nothing
how?
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>>549314483
Lol ziz asked like one pressing question and Jonathan had a histrionic melty. He can't handle anything but softball questions and glazing
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>>549315294
1 hour 40 minutes to find this. By Innocence I may not be strong enough.
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>>549315715
>opportunity cost in poe
>have to choose if you want a +4 ammy or a +2 with multi/attributes and 500d extra budget
VS
>opportunity cost in poo2
>time and money that could've went to developing poe1
truly and deeply grim for poo2s
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>>549315943
He is a fat faggot that panders to browns, if you can stomach that go for it.
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0.4 looks terrible
when is we getting phrecia private league
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>>549313528
>why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences?
People do not install a game actively wanting to look up a streamer's guide on how to play it. A new player flying blind in 1 is unlikely to even make it to maps without a guide, much less 4stone. By the time you reach the Mud Flats you're getting dozens of drops of gear you can't use because you don't have a loot filter because needing to filter out items sounds retarded to the average person who hasn't played D2 or PoE1 for years. The stats on the passive tree are barely explained and mathematically speaking any skill gem you buy from Nessa has a 2/3 chance of being crap. You will probably spend several minutes on the first lab, same for hunting for the last zombie in the Fetid Pool quest for fuckall reward. If you make it to act 2 you're probably going to be thinking about which bandit is better as if it affects the story because that's how real games work, but that also assumes you're not playing some kind of low damage DoT build and thus can't get through Oak's healing. By the time you fight the Vaal Oversoul the average scrub would have made it to maps, and you've been trudging through gray-brown-blue mazes the entire time.
Meanwhile in PoE2 you get your first skill gem in Clearfell and can see small videos of every option. You can hold Alt on literally anything to see the exact function of it, how it scales, what it interacts with, and so on. You don't have to fuck with links, so if something drops a crossbow and you're a merc it might be usable straight off the ground and is worth checking. Every skill gem you find is useful because it's a blank slate, every support gem lets you see exactly what skills it can support. You reach Geonor and you can beat him either by figuring out his tells (which all his dangerous attacks have) or by itemizing well and getting some cold res because his damage type is visually clear. No guide needed even by a completely blind shitter.
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>>549315715
Only Chris understood the /biz/ part
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>>549315715
>the lost revenue from the lack of development in poe1
what lost revenue? there were 18 leagues from exilecon 2019 to the poe2 ea launch.
poe2 was in the top 10 best selling games on steam for 10 weeks straight on launch.
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>why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences?
>>opportunity cost in poe
>>have to choose if you want a +4 ammy or a +2 with multi/attributes and 500d extra budget
Heres your answer
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i was going to post my build but i remembered the world revolves around me and will become meta if i do like last time
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>>549316250
if it did, it would become meta even without you posting the build
faggot
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>>549316121
So you're claiming development for poe1 continued undeterred at 100% peak efficiency for the entire time of poe2s development?
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>>549315762
>POE 1 isn't a PVP game
you now remember that there exists a support gem almost exclusively used in pvp.
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>>549315943
So far biggest thing i noticed is being not in person Jonathan pauses and hesitates at every sound Ziz makes. I watched a bit of his recent interview and in person he is far more consistent in his talking.
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>>549315820
d4brain
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>>549315762
Yeah I think perception plays a giant role here, POE2 is the new players chance to get in at the ground floor. POE2 also focuses on the best part of ARPGs which is dropping loot. I enjoy picking up items and having strong crafting options with them rather than go farm harvest to get 50,000 juice like some indonesian bug.

>>549316083
Agreed. POE2 is just so much better to actually sit down and play, not open a spreadsheet and plan for you know? However I think it's not going to be immune to the power/feature creep that came with POE1, but with WASD, better animations, cast while moving, immensely better gameplay, I think people will be able to get into it much easier.
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Hello, div/hour trans female here. I don't like PoE 2. That is all.
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>>549316448
what was the problem, the poe1 player count kept on going up didn't it?
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>>549316531
Yeah, there's added latency from the distance which makes communication far from instant, so you have to be careful to not talk over people.
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>>549315820
ai generated slop raises ai generated streamers
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>>549315715
>>549316116

POE 2's development cost must have been ENORMOUS. Probably higher than POE 1's life cycle, or at least close to that.

Poe 2 has all new assets, all new mechanics, so much new shit that had to be developed for it.

Meanwhile POE 1 leagues was just
>click on a glowing rock
>glowing zombies appear from the ground

Shit like the crucible league was developed over a lunch break and just syphoning the money into the POE2's development.
The necropolis was cobbled together from the POE 2's cemetary assets.

Basically everything they did for POE 1 for years was actually intended for POE 2.

In one hand they hampered the earnings and the quality of POE 1 experience ever since they begun focusing on POE 2, in another hand POE 2 is already much bigger than POE 1.
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>>549316083
NUCVLER TRUVE LAUNCH DETECTED
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I like Path of Exile 2.
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>>549316812
nobody is reading that shit lil gupward
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>>549291609
>>549291402
>>549291643
>>549292132
ayyy
>>549300406
Okay so right now I'm thinking of getting some more jewel sockets for my Stormshroud and a new Watcher's Eye (My old one is obsolete now), but most importantly I'm gonna be looking into a Steel Ring for one slot and probably a Death Rush for the other for the nonstop Adrenaline/heal on kill. Chaos Res is doing good now, but more or less I'm trying to get a mix of flat hp, flat phys, etc on the Steel Ring for maximum violence.
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>>549314574
I'm expecting them all to be good
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>>549313528
>so why is POE1 so radioactive to new audiences?
how is that a bad thing exactly
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>>549316918
Triggered you enough to reply. You read it and seethed at every word. Sorry your forever game is dying, time to move on and get with the times.
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>>549316918
I read it. He's right.
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>>549316918
i did snowbeit
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>>549316683
Mornye Mogs this
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>>549317062
i dont even know if it's a hoper or doomer post my dear gupbert
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>>549316718
Mind answering the question?
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Today I woke up and comforted myself: "Just 5 more days, you can do it....". Havent been this excited for a long time. Thanks GGGs

I rarely feel like this nawadays, and my brain is just making up ideas for the new skills that will be available. I really can't wait for the 12th to hit and have the time of my life
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>>549316792
The wildwood was one example where they said it was made for POE2 and put into POE1. So what did that lead to, when they let POE1 have a crumb of POE2's development? One of the most well regarded leagues.

kek

>>549317021
Stagnation leads to downsizing leads to closing GGG. Tencent owns them so they need to make money to keep providing the live service game we play. There is no POE private servers so if they went down we'd lose the game forever. I want to keep playing POE.
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>>549315294
>He acted like a petulant manchild
Imagine having to exist in the same room as him listening to his retarded voice and he's asking you the dumbest fucking questions imaginable
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>>549316083
>if it affects the storyline
>because that's how real games work
Lol, have your (you) despite my agreeance with you overall
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>>549317193
yes poe1s development was 100%, some of the best leagues the game has had happened between blight and settlers. the only noticeable problems were the expedition patch and the ultimatum launch when their intern forgot to merge rituals characters into standard.
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GGG didn't include this nerf in the english patch notes, but did in the KR and RU ones:

Falcon Dive now grants 1% increased attack speed per 400 hit rating, up to 20%. The skill now also grants 4% increased attack speed.
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>poe1 league
>one dev random idea developed in a week turns out to be a banger
>poe2 league
>years of development and autistic focus on polish turns out to be a turd
how exactly did ggg turn from a bunch of nerds doing nerd stuff to pseudo blizzard polish dogshit? if ggg doesnt unironically go back to their roots then they are going to collapse sooner than later
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>>549316083
i got to maps on my first league without a guide because im not a retarded third worlder (then i got filtered by red maps, quit, and killed all ubers next league)
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AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE THEY'RE TOO FAST WE NEED BUFFS WHITE MOBS ARE STRONGER THAN PLAYERS
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>>549316657
>However I think it's not going to be immune to the power/feature creep that came with POE1,

It's definitely not going to be immune. Eventually POE 2 will become an old game that's impossible to enter for a new player too.
And considering how huge the early access already is, the fact that it already has an endgame and crafting mechanics going to happen quicker than POE 1.
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Remember when the community was upset they delayed leagues?

Yeah, so now you got what you wanted and league launches are NOT delayed in favor of content.

I MUCH rather play a league during December and the holiday season with less content than having to wait an additional 4 weeks for it with more content.

Keep it up GGG, you are doing GREAT with PoE2!!
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>>549317319
the game is and always was designed with filtering undesirables in mind, why should that change now? theres a very good reason why brutus has so low clear rate. gatekeeping is good.
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>>549317617
poo2 was a flop from the start
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>the turd is the game that is better looking, better to play, selling better, and attracting the biggest audience including all the POE1 players in denial (minus the browns in kingsmarch)

no, the only turd is the one sitting inside your brown head.
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>>549300674
>man sized feet
its so obvious
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>>549317672
AHHHHHHHHH WHITE MOBS NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>549315762
>With a brand new game it's like an economy reset, there's a feeling of a level playing field, nobody knows the game yet, you get to explore and learn along with the community, you get to be the first and grow, maybe you'll be the first guy to figure it out and get ahead of the pack.
Which is funny because the same people who run 6 alch and go maps an hour and get a divine orb a day on poe1 are going to do the exact same thing in poe2 only it's 3 maps an hour
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Why is everyone being so disingenuous about the issues the early game had? I remember seeing tons of posts on here complaining about mobs being able to zoom at you and stunlock you to death. It was a legit issue everyone was complaining about.
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>>549317992
Don't worry anon, I'm consistent. I've been mocking you people since the beginning.
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uhm why havent they released any teasers or anything
wheres the hype...?
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>>549313737
>alinea analytics
LMAO
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>>549317797
Doesn't count!
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>>549317992
>issues
Yes i know that you have severe mental issues
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>>549317803
>the turd is the game that is better looking
surface level brown mindset
>better to play
wrong
>selling better
extremely wrong
>and attracting the biggest audience
attracting tourists is not a good thing
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>where's the hype
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>>549318063
dude you got like 2 asses and BOOBS in the reveal? isn't that like so friggin cool and badass??? i think that's more than enough teasers until launch!!
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>>549318063
they are reworking the free weekend cosmetics to be supporter pack tier after i called them out im to blame
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>>549317853
Bro. you have no fucking idea.
I was a motivated player trying to get into the POE 1 profit crafting and I gave up.

The fucking influence system
>you need a hunter influenced map
>to drop a hunter influenced base
>of a specific iLVL
>to harvest roll the influence for shaper
>make sure shaper is dominan and elder is secondary
>then stick a conqueror orb up your ass
OH MY FUCKING GOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CONQUEROR'S ORB

Straight up, i give up. It's too much, getting the masters in Aerospace engineering was easier than this. That's why i'm so excited about the POE2. I get to learn with the game as it grows, rather that trying to break through the absolute brick wall that is POE 1/
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>look at how much poo2 is making mone!!!
actually why does it count as poe2 "making money" when cosmetics from poe2 supporter packs are mostly used in poe1?
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>>549318406
You and 5 million others.
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>>549318249
>>selling better
>extremely wrong
that level of cope isn't healthy.
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>>549318550
it develops further>>549318408
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>>549318284
you do realize that the open beta trailer views are worth 100x more when it was all organic word of mouth compared to poe2 being shilled everywhere, streamers being paid to promote the game and every streamer reacting to it?
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>>549318473
Well at least those 5 million others don't have a 10 year headstart on me.

All i need to be top 10% in POE 2 is to do better than 9 other people.
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>>549318638
>cosmetics from poe2 supporter packs are mostly used in poe1?
it's like you enjoy being wrong.
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>>549318731
Can you try again with less brownbabble, you sound retarded.

>>549318712
I realize people want to talk about POE2 more yes.
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>>549318406
do you think the game should be so simple that as a new player you can just "learn" to profit craft? with your supreme intellect that is overwhelmed by the concept of influenced bases?
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>>549317672
>report that dude pls guys
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>poo1 getting stale gamed
>poo2 will take years to be good
sucks to like arpgs
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>>549318903
for me it's definitely peewee 1
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>>549318550
the cope is thinking that poe2 actually makes significant amount of money on its own when like a third of its playerbase are betakey beggars and poe1 players graciously granted them.
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>>549317992
Because you are shit at video games and while you were begging for nerfs to grelwood mobs I was mapping
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>>549315267
Merchant tabs are free for people who actually played the game. I can convert 10 more if I ever need to.
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>>549317992
poo2 paid shills flood in 2 weeks before a new patch
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>>549319219
yes anon, its all a big conspiracy.
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>>549318946
>do you think the game should be so simple that as a new player you can just "learn" to profit craft?

Yeah? If the game is so complex a new player has no hope of ever catching up and hopefully reaching the high level one day, there's no reason to engage with it.

And at this point POE 1 might be the most complicated game out there. IDK I never played Eve Online.
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>>549318903
why would you play a game that you have no interest in? you dont need to log in to buy cosmetics.
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>>549318946
>do you think the game should be so simple that as a new player you can just "learn" to profit craft?
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new tli ssn in 1 month
save me my chink overlords
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>>549318946
most mazed post i've ever read
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyyKfOqzGbs&t=6013s
>Jonathan: "I will get rid of rarity eventually"

Apologize.
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>>549319632
Rarity is good because it makes div/hour number big
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>>549319514
i'm sure poe2 was a best selling game for 10 weeks on ea launch because people wanted mtx for poe1.
that actually makes a lot of sense.
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sorry you shit in your tub for 6 six years
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>>549319632
mark the party sissy will never allow it
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>>549318406
Profit crafting, like profit daytrading on the stock market, will never be accessible because it is a zero-sum game of people underpricing the crafting materials relative to what fully crafted items can be sold for. There is some margin of profit that will always be available because the casuals that don't want to learn to craft will always just liquidate their items at the market price and overpay to save time, but-especially now with async-that demand can be fulfilled by a very small number of people.
Any strategy for crafting that everyone knows about will be arbed away as people start using the mats for themselves. The top 10% is not sufficient because one profit crafter can easily supply hundreds of people's gear alone
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>>549319487
>a new player has no hope of ever catching up and hopefully reaching the high level one day
why do you think that? more specifically why do you use the phrase "catching up"? the game does not continue to grow in complexity at the same rate as you learn its mechanics if you have an iq above 70
just play the game
look up some guides on how to craft specific items to get an idea of the underlying mechanics and what tools you have at your disposal

but you dont actually want that, do you? you dont want to learn how the game works, you just want to click a button that says "CRAFT" and feel intellectually superior to those incapable of performing this action
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>>549319174
d4 paladin expansion early next year, trust the plan it's going to be epic.
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>>549319765
all those poe1 supporter packs, like tears in the rain.
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punch all brainrotted spreadsheet slavery/h poowun imbeciles
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>>549319763
and yet most people in poe1 use new hideouts
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>>549319632
>eventually
Gayest stat in the game alongside light radius
>>549319713
Base drops should be increased
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>>549319763
It doesn't make sense because they release new packs with PoE 1 leagues as well and it didn't make to even Top 30 best selling games this year
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>>549320037
TRVTH NVKE
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>>549319763
you know that you get 300 microtransaction points if you buy an ea key, right?
i technically spent $30 on poe2 ea and another $30 or $60 on "poe2" supporter packs to get points for stash tabs in poe1
jonathan is misrepresenting the actual profit of poe2 by ignoring the fact that a "poe2 purchase" from a poe1 player is not actual revenue generated by poe2
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>>549320167
That IS strange isn't it.
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>>549319632
next time he's going to say "poe1 had rarity for 10 years so it's fine"
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>>549320038
I mostly see shaper, celestial and stuff like backstreets. Since 3.25 I barely see any of the paid ones. I saw beacon for a little bit but have probably seen the floating isles once.
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>>549320037
isnt fubgun one of biggest if not the biggest poe2 creator? if anything its pootoorists that are brainrotted
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PoE2 if you're not some autistic fatass who spends 100+ hours a week playing it
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>>549320167
can you even buy poe1 supporter packs on steam
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>>549320262
>all sales are poe1 sales, steam is a liar.
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>>549320037
trvkie.
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>jonathan is misrepresenting the actual profit of poe2 by ignoring the fact that a "poe2 purchase" from a poe1 player is not actual revenue generated by poe2
Jonathan did a real number on this one
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>>549319870
>Profit crafting, like profit daytrading on the stock market, will never be accessible because it is a zero-sum game

Profit crafting isn't day-trading, it's investment. Basically the crafter takes the orbs the noobs can't use effectively, uses them with higher efficiency calculating the risks and chances, sells a better item than the noobs could craft themselves, and keeps a small cut.

A poe crafter is basically an orb asset manager.
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>>549320415
exactly, poe2 is a great casual weekend game
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>>549320471
I had to go look it up you can. With that said I personally have never bought anything off of steam and just use their website I didn't know either.
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Removing rarity is based. I have always been an advocate for Total Magic Find Death
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>>549320342
strange, vanilla hideouts are extremely rare for me. its all the turtle, dreadnought and the like
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>>549319940
There was really nothing offensive about that guy's post. It was pretty human. Idk what yours is though
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>>549319940
>the game does not continue to grow in complexity at the same rate as you learn its mechanics

The game is 10 years ahead of me, it keeps growing and the old players keep getting more experienced in the same time.

Yes EVER isn't the right word. I could catch up if I invested several years into it.

Or I could invest several years into myself and real life and start a fucking family instead. Imagine what would you looked like if you spent 3000 hours at the gym? Beats being good at a videogame.
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>>549320998
I forgot about turtle. I do see it a lot also. I am not sure I've ever seen someone in dreadnought.
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>>549321095
guy currently posting on 4chan while pretending to be concerned about how productively he spends his time
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>>549321095
lmfao
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>>549321095
>Or I could invest several years into myself and real life and start a fucking family instead.
Go do that then, faggot.
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last league i lasted to act 2 i think, maybe 3, and i promised myself that i would never ever play a non metacuck build ever again. i already hate playing through the extremely padded campaign, with its dead ends and backtracking. So to play an underpowered class on top of that to make it even longer is something i'm never gonna exposed myself to again.

I kinda wanna play druid though, the bear looked cool. But is the bear gonna suck or will it be good?
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>>549321095
>it keeps growing
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>>549321318
>guy posts in the most autistic ARPG community
>pretends he's not obsessed with productivity, div/h and competitive economy
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predict the date for 3.28
my bet would be march 20
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>>549321552
um why are you spending time writing 4chan posts when you could be starting a family?
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>>549321525
i cant believe that some people consider d2r "good looking"
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>>549321572
The very last moment that could be considered within the 4 month window, allowing for a bit of stretching of the definition of "within"
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>>549321610
Fuck it.
Because I have an existential dread of tomorrow coming. I'm scared of going to bed because I haven't done everything I had to today.
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>>549321661
thank you
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>>549321525
Bear might suck. We don't know what the base stats on talismans are or how the Druid skills scale with gem level. If you make a Druid and just play a 0.3 shield wall build it will be extremely smooth through the campaign since it was already good and didn't get nerfed. Then at endgame you can copy someone else's shapeshifting build
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>>549321572
March 20th for 3.28
April 10th for 0.5
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>>549321525
the desert is such a god damn slog.
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>>549321743
If it makes you feel any better when you die and stop perceiving time it will all pass instantly.
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PoE1 is fun
poo2 is not
simple as
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>>549321743
healthiest poe1 hater
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>>549321743
What could you have possibly needed to do today?

For the future if you have stuff you need to do do it as soon as you get out of bed that was that sense of accomplishment lasts the entire day and you don't gotta worry about it.
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4 days 20 hours
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>>549321787
luld
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>>549321848
i just don't care about poe1 after playing poe2.
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>>549321814
nah a3 is easily the worst. the power core area, that area with all the levers and the swamps. they could easily and they should make the areas 50% the size and increase the experience.
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>>549322180
I agree all the areas should be smaller
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Deshar through Matlan Waterways always challenges my will to continue.
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>>549322175
It's ok to check out and get some challenges done. This league was pretty awful with the stagnant meta and non existent difficulty though, and I really don't think there were any fun builds to play.
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>>549321572
probably like 5+ months after keepers unironically
0.4 will be a flop and require post launch support + christmas holidays
so middle of april
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>>549322026
I have overdue art commissions piling up and I just can't fucking bring myself to lift the stylus after getting drained at work and doing the chores.
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PoE2 is fun
poo1 is not
simple as
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>>549322590
Trvke.
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>>549319763
>Millions and millions of people are eating cowshit in India
>Millions of people can't be wrong! Eat cowshit too, anon!
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what do i miss if I don't play the new season and just continue playing standard? i refuse to remake my characters until release. will the new stuff eventually come to standard?
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It fills me with joy how much PoE2 makes poo1 tribal monkeys seethe because they can't stand the fact that THEY THEMSELVES helped kill there game with there retardation and funds.
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>>549322590
both are trash actually
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>>549322745
You will not get the Vaal temples
They usually come to standard, but it will be less common, like abyss. There is a chance it gets nerfed heavily, and some leagues get cut entirely (Poe1 synthesis, tota), but this one is very likely to make it in some form.
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>>549322719
>eating feces
>playing a fun new game and buying some mtx
don't much see the correlation there
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>>549322745
The league mechanic. You'll probably get druid and items not tied to the Fate of the Vaal league.
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>>549322956
>fun
>poo2
pick one. poo2 isn't fun and it wasn't made to be fun. it's made to look good and attract players, but ggg is doing anything and everything to not make it fun.
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>>549322180
>>549321814
>1 hour acts are a slog
I forgot how fucking shit at games this board is
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>>549322745
>what do i miss if I don't play the new season and just continue playing standard?
The new economy and the active player market.

POE is the closest thing to the real life economy. Just like in real life the rich get richer, the poor get poorer etc. Their solution to the income inequality is having the great reset every 4 months and giving everyone a new opportunity to get rich this time.
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>>549318946
>teaching someone how to build a plane makes building a plane simple

retard
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>>549322989
>>549322930
That's fine, I'll wait until the temples are done being beta tested by leaguesloppers.
>>549323103
I don't care about this at all
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>>549323037
>it's not fun because i say so!!
retard
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>>549323037
it's not for you, lil bro. go play something else, no one cares
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>>549323460
I am, poe1 is big fun.
Poo2 is for shiteaters and i laugh at shiteaters.
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Why doesnt poeninja show console players? I don't know how to share my build
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>>549323460
I care
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d4 is fun
poch is fun
simple as
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>>549323572
>console player
>phone poster
just rope at this point, pranesh
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>>549323692
new d4 season on the 11th shit is going to be god tier.
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>>549323720
Why would you need a whole computer nowadays?
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>>549323754
I got the hidden seasonal challenge done for seasons 1 and 2 of D4 then lost interest, came back in the expansion and quit before finishing it. It doesn't even look good anymore POE2 mogs it even though it's a Microsoft-Blizzard product. Sad shit.
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If you play shaman druid then it is guaranteed to be cucked. There is almost never a good "intended" build. Monk staff build all sucked without bell or heralds exploits.
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I REALLY hope we get some new conner melty clips
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>>549323558
>>549323595
cry more lmao
thanks for funding my game btw
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i am worried i will not be able to kill act 2 boss as a druid. I wiped for an hour in 0.1 and 0.2. In 0.3 I wiped like 5 times and had to switch to bows to beat it.
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>one week and i still don't have a league starter ready
sisters.. which build do i choose??
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>6 more poops until I play patch 0.4 for an hour, get bored then wait for the next patch
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>>549324036
no problem, brownoid
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>>549324026
poe2 is the gift that keeps on giving.
connon, ben, steel, ziz, rue, jung, so many melties.
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>>549324171
What was killing you? Usually people struggle with mana sustain since he has so much more life compared to prior bosses, but you can put mana leech on your basic attack to use when you're oom
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>>549324227
>can't stop fantasizing about shit and shit eating
>tries to call out brownoids out of self hate
yep, that's saarjeet alright
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>>549324460
IF IT'S BROWN, FLUSH IT DOWN!
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Brainlet here
Please explain why people use "supported skill duration is 30% shorter" i see this in bunch of builds
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>>549324460
that wasn't me
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how do you fix the bug where the game freezes and reloads making you lose all your map progress? i know they addressed this by now
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Does it seem like tornado is gonna be a viable play style? I love using storm magic in games, but rarely is it good
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>>549324642
If your skill has a duration in it as a pre-requisite for the cooldown, damage trigger, or effect, then you want to be casting it as much as possible. For example, ember fusillade has a duration tag on it that is the length of time it stays attached to you before it fires, if you get this down to something like 0.01 seconds (a bit exaggerated) it'll fire immediately after you cast. It's not always useful but for ember fusillade it lets you get big dps as it already casts absurdly fast but comes with a limit to how many embers you can stack before firing. Having short duration lets you machinegun it without worrying about stack limits
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Cast on crit wyvern.
With fast hitting fire/lightning.
Annnnd..
Rolling magma
Multi proj and chain
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>>549324171
>i am worried i will not be able to kill act 2 boss as a druid. I wiped for an hour in 0.1 and 0.2. In 0.3 I wiped like 5 times and had to switch to bows to beat it.

We just don't know how druid is going to work, or not work. Maybe the bear is going to shit all over Jamanra, maybe you will get hard stuck.

I am unironically going to start 0.4 as an EDC lich because I know that build inside and out and I know i'm going to rich the maps quickly, farm some divines and by that time the community will figure out the builds that work.

Maybe the best bear class is going to be titan... or the fucking monk.
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>sick of dying due to low es
>want to buy upgrade for chest
>plug 2 mandatory stats into trade and set the ES slightly higher (650) than what i currently have (629)
>70div for 3% EHP increase
>any of the good ones are 100+
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>>549324802
>>549324564
cry
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>>549324395
NTA but
>mana sustain problem on Jamanra
Probably the most cringe thing is the lack of early support gems mean you'll need to make some sacrifices on your runes or know ahead of time what build to commit to. Also, fuck doing this guy without good gear. +2 levels on a caster is all you need but if you don't have that it's incredibly annoying
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>rolling magma early game for the 99th time
>poo2 edition
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>>549323159
>plane building analogy
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>>549325262
ok I'm crying
now what
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>>549325231
That's no problem cause you aren't poor, right anon?
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>>549325231
The economy is fucked. Just fucking buy the essences and fuck around with recominator to craft a better chest yourself.
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>>549325419
i have played nonstop for the past 3 days and have 46 div in my stash right now
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0.4 will be my first time playing poe 2. Did I pick a good time to start? What will my first impression be?
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>>549325785
zoomer hands typed this
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>>549325785
it depends on how far you are onto your transition as a proud poe 1 male soon to be female
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>>549324171
just build lots of sustain and upgrade your weapon(s) before you go (probably prioritize the Talisman)
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>>549325920
extremely unc coded post
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>>549325920
I am turning 43 in a couple of weeks but not sure what my age has to do with anything.
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>>549325485
46 div is fucking pennies this late into the inflation economy.

Try buying a bunch of bases, the omens of putrefaction and preserved ribs. Beating 650 ES shouldn't be too hard.
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>>549325983
I only played poe campaign once and didn't really like it that much, felt too esoteric I could tell I would never understand the game.
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>>549326046
I think he is talking about poo1
Theres no way you can get 46 divs in 3 days in poe2
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>>549326015
>>549325785
If you're serious the game is going to humiliate you. By the middle of Act 2 you're going to hit a brick wall, will need to read a giude, and you will probably find out that you did everything wrong and need to respec your entire skill trea and gear.

That's part of the learning experience, everybody's been there.
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did a warmup run to act3 but realized that this game is still extremely boring, see you in 0.5 (probably not)
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>>549325785
Just pick good starting build and you will be fine
I suggest either Exp Grenade Witchhunter or Ed+cont lich. Smith is great but he is boring
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>>549325785
it's a better time to start than last league because there won't be massive horde of monsters hanging around a big crack in the middle of every map.

don't start druid unless you are comfortable with there being zero guides. even if you feel like you want to go in blind, you might want to leave yourself the option to change your mind later.
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>>549326330
this guy is projecting. real men don't feel "humiliated" playing a difficult video game.
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>>549326197
>Theres no way you can get 46 divs in 3 days in poe2.

POE 2 is so inflated right now you can sell a lucky floor drop for 40 divs.
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>>549326015
>>549325785
Find me in Global 1488 once the game starts I'd be more than happy to help you out with anything.
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ggg should add unstable tentacle fiends to poe2 maps
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>>549326330
I've been playing arpg's since diablo 1, I'm pretty confident the campaign is not going to stymie me. Not planning on looking up any guides I want to enjoy a blind run and just experience the game with fresh eyes. I only post here for the banter, I never watch trailers or anything, barely know what the game even looks like. For me personally the more blind I go into things the more I enjoy them.
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Queen of the Forest Werewolf Titan
>+75% movespeed from chest (easily capped with just a few +evasion passives)
>+20% or more movespeed from the tree
>+50% movespeed from lunar blessing, with very high uptime
>Titan can also get a lot of AoE radius increases for super fast clearing, and werewolf form solves attack speed issues by itself
Genius idea or stupid idea?
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>>549326185
yeah poe2 is easier to get into but its a LOT. probably just follow a guide to one of the builds recommended by >>549326347
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>>549326015
because zoomers and apparently people that are as inept as zoomers would ever ask somebody else what their first impression/personal experience will be like from somebody that also hasn't experienced what you're asking about.
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>>549326330
damn man
Brainlets like you make me thing that i am some kind of genious because i finished campaign on my own first time i played the game.
Thanks for boosting my confidence
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>>549326796
>pussy tattoo
whore
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>>549298550
Considering trying out Warrior in 0.4. In 0.3 I mostly played an ED contagion lich which felt really good. Is there any good levelling build for warrior that doesn't feel like absolute shit to play? I remember I tried warrior back in 0.2 and unironically got filtered by act 1.
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>>549326948
worse than that. looks like the top of a spade
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>>549326816
Fuck off telling someone new at it to look up a guide, let them experience it themselves first christ its not rocket surgery
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>>549326894
>Brainlets like you make me thing that i am some kind of genious because i finished campaign on my own first time i played the game.

You had the POE 1 experience.
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>>549326330
lol
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>>549325785
Poe2 is the best ARPG on the market everyone complaining is a faggot you will find that out yourself
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>>549327059
>>549326796
Lily would never
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>>549327123
Lily has a cute cock cage.
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>>549327123
dont make me post it
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>>549326796
Is this real? I thought she was wholesome?
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>>549327227
You wouldn't
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>>549327063
he's 43 anon I think he can make a decision for himself without you sticking up for him.
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>>549327059
It's an upside down heart (that is my cope).
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thanks JONATROON
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>>549326197
>>549326046
Yeah I mean 1
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Keepers/wvljeZRQib
There's exactly one chest with explode and more than 800 ES and every other mod on it sucks, all the rest are 70+
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>>549327282
lmao, she's a turboslut BDP hapa. she had a discord log leak and her PMs are nothing but her being obsessed with sex
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>>549326735
That anon is fucking retarded, if you're willing to actually read what your skills and stats do you can easily beat even pinnacles without needing a guide
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>>549327313
Oh yeah, who gonna stick up for you
*shoves you into wall*

bitch
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>>549327445
>archnemesis
BFR's revenge
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I'm gonna start blood mage.
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>>549325785
If you consider yourself at all decent at figuring stuff out on your own, you really don't need a guide. Yeah you'll probably be suboptimal, but the game has a lot of exploration and you only ever get your first experience once. Just don't stretch yourself too thin trying to be a jack of all trades.
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Punch Monk got the big nerf and I am sad. Maybe Wolf Monk...
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>>549327924
And if you do the league mechanics you're going to get showered with crafting currency and get strong.
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>>549327985
Punch monk got insane buff if you go ham in attack speed thou
Like
SUPER HAM
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The animal forms basically have one or two built-in combos with their few skills and there's not gonna be a lot of variety of you can do with them as a permanent single animal user
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>>549326185
play crossbow. it's op for campaign and imo very fun.
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>>549328224
nta, I tried merc crossbow once and I literally couldn't even make it past act 1. You have so little aoe and the early skills suck so bad.
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>>549328170
Your attack speed is something like ~40% worse at end game with the changes. Having punches be slightly faster in the early game is cold comfort.
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>>549327583
i dont believe that
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>>549327741
>start blood mage.
Do it.

After they reworked the sanguimancy and added the remnant nodes the blood mage is actually a comfy starter.

In fact blood mage might actually feel comfier in Act 2 and 3 than Lich, because lich can't cast without energy shield.
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>>549328386
each point of attack speed is 15% more potent with 1.65 bat than it was in 0.3.0 with 1.4 bat
Just go ORAORAORAORAORA
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I'm for sure starting druid because it's new and I want to have some fun before the metafags optimize the fun out, but I think my bae is Lich with Doedre's Undoing lineage support. I played it a bunch last league and it's so strong and smooth for little investment. And you don't need to pay as much attention as a deadeye or other glass cannons.
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>>549328357
Which patch? Explosive grenade or frost/frag rounds were both good in 0.3. Basic shot has great single target by itself
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>>549327741
Pretty safe league starter with a lot of different spells because Couture of Crimson is going to be so strong on Blood Mage
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Is ignite gonna be good this time

Is infernalist non-minions any good with anything
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>>549328357
I leaguestarted WH and i have no idea how can you fail
>use armor pierceing rounds in act 1 and act 2 for a bit
>switch to grenades
>shit becames cake walk after getting explosive shot
>pick grenade nodes and ev+ar nodes
Comfy as fuck.
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>>549328714
problem is the explosive grenades still take 15 years to explode. I'm sure it gets better later on but early, merc is super rough.
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>>549328673
All analysis I've read seems to indicate that your aspd is going to be significantly worse at very high evasion levels. Did they all just forget to consider the bat change?
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Armour piercing rounds with armour explosion is so satisfying just for the sounds. I don't even know if the explosion is even doing anything but it feels good
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> Ice Fragments (created by skills such as from Escape Shot and Ice-Tipped Arrows) are now only able to hit each enemy once per group of Fragments created.

What does this mean exactly? If a skill creates 3 ice fragments from a hit does this change mean only one of those three fragments will ever hit any one target? Or was there some other interaction that I don't know about getting nerfed here.
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>>549329031
>problem is the explosive grenades still take 15 years to explode
if only there was a way to make them explode faster, or dare i say it instantly with combination of some other skill, i even came up with cool name for it already "detonator"
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>>549328896
I don't know what to use to make it do enough damage, maybe the buffed fire spear skill. Flammability is getting buffed on the tree, but I still don't really understand what it does. I think it just gives chance to ignite, but that is an incredibly odd debuff to put in the game and makes me think I don't understand something about ailments in Poo2
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>>549329269
>If a skill creates 3 ice fragments from a hit does this change mean only one of those three fragments will ever hit any one target?
yes, it's anti-shotgunning. poe1 killed on projectile shotgunning early on, and poe2 is now killing explosion shotgunning
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>>549329232
No, all analysis you read is correct and palm becomes worst at ~800 evasion
But it doesnt take in account the fact that every point of attack speed on you is 15% better now
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>>549329419

Well thats' fucking gay, I was thinking about doing Ice Bow on Amazon or something but this just makes some build ideas I had weaker.
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>>549329294
Yeah, I'm not doing that
Maybe the skill could not suck ass?
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>>549328890
>Couture of Crimson
Bait.
Even if you corrupted off the negative perk it's still a dogshit low level base with 150 ES for your chest, and Bloodmage already has life overflow and crimson power.

For blood mage CC gives ONLY life leach in the overlow zone at the expense of the entire chest slot.

Imo CC is going to suck dick even with the perfect corrupt. A chest with fucking nothing.
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Wow so many cool updates in poo2 0.4 for cold and fire. I'm still going to be applying huge shocks and using lightning damage, but you chuds should definitely have fun neutering yourselves with other elements!!
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>>549329601
So, taking the extra value of each aspd point into account, is the change still a nerf, just less dramatic than first thought, or is it actually a buff for punching?
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>>549328440
your queen was getting stretched by college guys while she was in high school.
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>>549329391
Yeah flammability is like chance to ignite, the more flammability you have on them, the more chance the hit will ignite. Its kinda like that incision bleed effect I think. Not overly clear. I was thinknig infernalist for that noide that makes anything ignite and then I could use whatever idk what
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Is melee ever going to not suck ass in poe 2. How the fuck is it 1 year after launch and we still don't have cyclone, swords, or a lacerate build.
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>>549328357
>You have so little aoe and the early skills suck so bad.

IDK I remember starting with fragmentation rounds and double barrel and just shotgunning my way through the entire game
>bam bam
Shotgun and stun grenade were the only skills i ever used.
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Lets say i will start druid and spirit max
How do i take advantage of giant spirit pool except minions, i am fine with wolf bros, but fuck skeletons man, too spooky.
What uniques interact with spirit?

I will be honest i was 100% sure that druid will get spirit based ascendancy, because you know
Druid - Spirit
Makes a lot of sense, but not in Johnathan head (i still like him because WOLF-Moon-cold is fresh, unique and interesting take)
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>>549329816
Melee will always be worse than ranged, it is the nature of the beast. We'll get swords in like 6-8 months, they'll be disappointing.
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where's the teaser you fricking FRICKS
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>>549329660
Couture of Crimson doesn't have a negative effect anymore
It's going to stack very well with Life Remnants to keep life at 150% even when taking hits
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>>549329802
its early game buff
nerf (not so dramatic) if you play game normaly
Super buff if you stack attack speed on literally everything and i mean LITERALLY everything.
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>>549329630
Explosive grenade is tied for the best skill for speedrunning early game. Skill issue.
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>>549329816
poe2's fundamental design means melee will always be worse than range. Can't be fixed unless they give melee something like 75% damage reduction, seriously.
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>>549329816
Maces have been blowing up the screen since day one and can stack tons of life so I don't understand the bitching
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>>549328896
>>549329391
flammability just means any fire damage done to a target incrementally raises its chance to be ignited. a fire hit that does the ailment threshold only has a base 10% chance, but +% flammability, and simply hitting the monster more times, means the chance stacks up with every hit so you can hit 100%. if you use fire damage on a boss it shows the current ignite chance under the health bar as the flammability debuff

I'm using Volcanic fissure, slamming it with totems to raise ignite chance, then when its high enough switching from mace strikes to Perfect Strike to get a big ignite, then returning to phys. who knows if it'll be "good", that'll depend on Kaom's Madness fissure clearing in maps but it seems like I've figured out a "GGG approved build" if that makes sense.
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>>549329806
do you have anything spicier
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>>549330006
Blood mage basically spends her entire life pool to blow up the screen with a fireball, then sucks it all back in picking up all the remnants anyway.

Although i'm not sure how much harder is getting that abyssal jewel is going to be. Maybe it's 50 div in 0.4
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what was your worst ever PoE 1/2 experience? for me it was playing Spectres in 0.2. They were so weak rare mobs were impossible to kill and I had to attempt Jamanra a dozen times with each attempt taking half an hour.
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I am going to be honest, this "duration" thing in poe 2 and how it interacts with "skill has X% less duration is super intuitive
For example:
Lets say ignite deals 100dmg
Over 3 seconds

Naturally i think it deals 33.3 damage every second
So if i lower duration of this skill to 2 seconds it will deal 66.6 damage.
But nope, not how it works, it will deal 100 over 2.

Are there more interactions like this i should know about?
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>>549329806
dating doesnt mean sex
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what did xixixi mean by this
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>>549330048
Do you have and maths on uber oraoraora maxxing? There's 115% aspd available on the tree, right? Unless that has changed in 0.4. Did the aspd on glove rune get changed I skimmed the notes. I wonder how hard it'll be to maintain mana on a very fast punching Monk now without the free mana node. Chonk can at least mana leech from chaos dam, right?
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>>549330224
I was going to respond that there is enough ignite chance on the tree already without flammability but I guess it all got removed in favor of flammability. I don't understand why Ignite needs to jump through these hoops.
Was/is ignite overpowered? Aren't people instakilling pinnacles right now without damage over time effects?
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>>549330506
I'm sure your condom funds were well appreciated, anon.
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>>549330567
wtf, did they really kill the one and only deep & complex poe2 build? what's that one guy who was sucking off last lament liches gonna say?
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>>549329806
>i dated a tranny
people simp for a chick that got fucked by a tranny lmfao
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updated notes: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883495
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>>549330567
no fun EVER allowed EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>549330567
lol
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POISON
COLD
WEREWOLF
PATHFINDER
LOGIN
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>>549330758
female x futa is cute and kino
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say something nice about my unique farm cope strat
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>>549330567
lmao
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>>549330815
>falcon dive dead
lets gooo
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>>549330653
There is ailment chance though, does that affect ignites, I would guess so
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>>549330714
anon there are loads of things you can take advantage of that uses life with lich its not just the unique crossbow

>>549330956
shut the fuck up
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If I use a higher support gem does it increase the damage or mana cost or anything?
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>>549330815
>>549330815
>Fanatic Bow now deals 48-80 physical damage (previously 42-70) and 28-64 chaos damage (previously 43-71). You can use a divine orb if you want a worse implicit.
why do these bows even exist?
you can't even scale the chaos damage on them
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>>549331216
nah, the cost multiplier rarely scales with level. the main skill will
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I replaced my Amethyst Ring with this and I'm really enjoying it. Next I gotta figure out how to make good boots (Crafting and proper orb use completely escapes me).
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>>549331030
I'm saying that the flammability nodes on the tree used to just read increased chance to ignite.
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Added arrow bow bases rekt. Grenade xbow bases still unchanged. Fubgunners in shambles.

>>549331242
They gave up
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>now has the implicit: +50% Surpassing chance to fire an additional Projectile
why cant these retards just create normal mods
wtf is "surpassing chance"?
Why is it not just "50% chance to fire an additional projectile"
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>>549330815
>ratpiss got doubletapped
lmao
>regal homo also dead
double lmao
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>>549330653
>I don't understand why Ignite needs to jump through these hoops.
because ignite can't stack even in poe1 (and ggg are very cautious about letting dots stack in poe2) you had to design fire builds around either big ignites or lots of hits, zero ignite.

in poe2 the mechanic is designed so a skill can have lots of small hits and it will still sets stuff on fire -- but it can also synergize with a big hit by making sure it ignite. its nice, makes it distinct from bleed or poison.
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>>549330567
hhahahah
fuck you johnathan
Eternal life is problematic node and you will have to nerf tons of shit if you refuse to rework it.
I cant even image how op it wouldve been in poe2
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>>549330567
>we here at niggerniggernigger games like to suck cock tremendously
why would they say and do such a thing?!
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>>549331423
Because 140% chance to fire an additional projectile is the same as 100%, but 140% surpassing chance means there's a 60% chance to fire 1 extra proj and a 40% chance to fire 2 extra.

>>549331475
I think regal homo should have stayed to compete with essences.
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>>549331358
Yeah I'm just saying, even though you got the flammambility shit, you also got chance to inflict ailments too its kinda like chance to ignite innit, so its all confused and retarded or possibly I am
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>>549330567
poe2 now has zero interesting builds
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>>549331242
remember when they said that base types were going to be damage specific and the rolls on them could be elemental in nature? And now we just have the poe1 system and no elemental weapons instead?

lmao
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>Rathpith Globe now has "Non-Channelling Spells Deal 6% Increased Damage per 100 Maximum Life" (previously 10%).
TAKE THAT LIFE BUILDS FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!
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>>549331423
I'm guessing that every +100% surpassing chance just gives you an extra arrow, remainder being an actual chance
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>>549330567
Poe has only ever been good by accident. Now even poe2 knows.
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>>549331734
ZACCIE DID IT AGAIN
I KNEEL
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>>549331619
yeah regal homo seemed fine, homo exalt was fucked because of the double slams with perfects
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>>549331074
name 5
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>>549330815
>Fragmentation Rounds: Now has Bolts Pierce 2 targets at Gem level 1 scaling to Bolts Pierce 5 targets at Gem level 24 (previously 2 at all Gem levels). Base projectile speed has been increased by 50%.

HOL UP
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what the fuck are you retards doing? unique interactions? who the hell said you could do those? there are plenty of pre-defined skill interactions in the game, and you will use those instead, unintentional interactions are bugs
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>>549331734
don't worry the passive tree has a new node that grants 3% increased life and 5% less movement speed
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>>549332023
nice try ggg im playing lich in 0.4 you wont trick me like you did that other faggot
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What even is "the Druid side of the passive tree"? Top left? Does top left count as a whole side?
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>>549332052
As well as the increased pierce, built-in extra proj speed makes it feel gooder too. Narrows the cone a bit cos its travelling further before it spreads out. Permaforst gets the same bonuses too.
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>>549332228
How many sides does a circle have?
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>>549332405
4
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>>549330506
Sweet summer child
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>>549331853
"surpassing" implies that you only get another arrow if you hit 100%.
so 50% is probably permission to skill into surpassing chance on the skill tree. ggg must have calculated that 1 extra projectile = a specific number of passive points.
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poe 1 update teasers
>hey bro here's ur amazing qol which makes this league mechanic 10 times less clunky
poe 2 update teasers
>yeah we killed ur build lol
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>>549330506
I remember when underage was actually b& on this webzone
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>>549332228
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>>549332068
I don't care enough about autistically memorizing uniques (which change every league) to bother with that shit, man.
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>>549332631
>yeah we killed ur build lol
that's poe1
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>>549332052
frost/frag tactician is the way to go this season again
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>>549332693
more like an octant than a whole side innit
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Are the grenade and shield wall nerfs coming later this week? *heavy breathing*
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So is the surpassing arrow thing an all or nothing stat?
is 99% surpassing arrow worthless or is it an extra arrow 99/100 times?
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Was it really that good? I was going with stun nade insta pin armour break siege cascade tech and it was alright. Siege cascade got a nice buff too, along with Shard Scavenger.
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>>549332631
poe2 update
>we halved ur framerate
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>>549333121
99% is 99% to fire an extra arrow. 29,173% will fire 291 extra arrows 27% of the time and 292 extra arrows 73% of the time.
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>>549333121
>So is the surpassing arrow thing an all or nothing stat?

probably :)
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Is anyone really excited about a crossbow league? Be honest.
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>pack size
nerfed
>parry
buffed
Slow and methodical is all coming together.
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>>549333653
why do you think this is crossbow league
it's gardening league baby
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>Freezing Mark: No longer causes an explosion. Instead, Freezing the marked target grants a Buff that grants damage extra as Cold damage for a duration, or until you mark another target.
Considering that wolf can proc mark instantly, i think its great build for melting bosses now.
We are saved wolf bros
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>549333738
>When Parrying, you now hit all enemies in an area in front of you, in addition to the enemy who instigated the Parry.
>Parry now always hits the enemy you parried, regardless of distance.

you WILL use active block, you lazy fucking fucks!
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>>549333914
>or until you mark another target
preemptively killing any auto-marking interactions
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>>549333914
The wolf is at your door
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>>549333738
ppack ssize ddoesn't mmatter wwhen yyou gget aall oof yyour lloot ffrom rrares
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>>549334256
You will parry the white mob.
You will track your mark buff timer.
You will loot nothing and be happy.
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>>549333914
>turn into wolf
>freeze mark enemy
>proc it
>turn into wyvern
>use your 800% as flamebreath
HM
Am i onto something?
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>>549334458
this isnt genshin impact lil gup there's no melt reaction
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>>549334458
you are onto the worst fucking gameplay ever devised by mankind
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>>549334458
let blud cook
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>>549334301
>>549334256
>you guys talking like white mobs in this game aren't absolutely terrifying.
>>
JONATROON
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>>549333979
I didn't actually look into anything about parry beyond it existed and was trying to find "when" I was supposed to parry. Thinking there was some moment in attack animations to use it.
Finding out it was just raise shield alternative made it pretty boring.
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>>549334458
if troonathan intented it, yes. if not expect it to be buffed (nerfed) mid league.
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>Gemini Bow now has 1.15 Attacks per second (Previously 1.1), now has the implicit: +50% Surpassing chance to fire an additional Arrow (Previously Bow Attacks fire an additional arrow).
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>first time Trial of the Ancestors
>Kaom's test is Noblebellow who infinitely heals himself
wtf? Am I missing something?
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>>549334576
>this isnt genshin impact lil gup there's no melt reaction
am i remembering something wrong or was something like this actually supposed to be in the game early on? at the very least i remember people creaming themselves about some "obvious" skill interactions
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>Greymake now drops with 4 Augment Sockets. Existing items will not have this change.
This was already a good item early for stomping ground, but cool, more resists or max life for twinking I guess. The real question is, can you corrupt it to have 5 on a helmet?
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>>549334825
yeah.
dps.
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>>549334458
the aoe for firebreath is basically the whole screen stuff isn't going to run away.
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>>549334825
first time i went in that guy had immunity to fire (or super high resist, cant remember) and i couldnt do shit to him too, lmao
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>>549334825
It just has really high regen. If you're ZDPS, come back when you're overleveled. You don't need to do that zone to complete the act.
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>>549327498
just recoomb it onto a good ES crusader base
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>Indigon now has "10-15% Increased Spell Damage for Each 200 Total Mana You Have Spent Recently" (previously 35-50%). Existing items can be updated using a Divine Orb.
>Indigon now has "5-10% Increased Cost of Skills for Each 200 Total Mana Spent Recently" (previously 35-50%). Existing items can be updated using a Divine Orb.
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>>549335031
mark got changed, read:
>>549333914
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>>549334753
the difference is that it gives you a comically large More Damage modifier for some kind of followup. I tried Frost Fangs once and kept freezing Geonor with it. felt good, the issue is making it work in endgame.
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>>549335064
why do they keep putting pure numbers check bosses in the game when they claim this supposed to be a build whatever you want dynamic combat game. seems very antethical to this design principle
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>>549335168
any particular synergy with wyvern fire breath? it should work with anything.
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>>549335352
You can build whatever you want, but you'll still need gear to make it work.
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>>549335352
they just seem like numbers check bosses because in this game items > your build.
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>>549335479
its super fast
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>>549335152
what's indigon
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Why are PoETwo'ers so upset that GGG upheld moderation on their website and didn't let insulting and arguing in bad faith, + spamming ruin their forums? PoETwo'ers should respect GGG and the rules they set.
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>>549330567
literally every build showcase gets turbo dumpstered
they did the same thing to jungroan's splinter of loratta stacking flat via Amazon and rings to poison stack with lightning spear and other spear skills by adding a "DEAL NO ELEMENTAL DAMAGE" line to it the very next patch.
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>>549332872
sextant
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>>549335629
flying speed was very slow
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Upcoming Diablo 4 changes will put PoE2 in it's place
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>>549335729
you'd only use it on bosses i reckon and hope you go nuke them down before they get you
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>>549335729
you dont use it to clear maps, you use it to clear bosses
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>>549334458
what is this supposed to be doing exactly?
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so what are the good mona teams with the hexen buffs now
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>>549335667
>zero supporter pack-having third-worlders who think 30 dollars gives them the right to be retarded.
Why are PoE 2 players like this?
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>>549335629
>requires rage to use
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>>549336056
Embrace Big Jon's generator, combo vision or leave :)
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>>549335629
yeah you just seemed to imply there was an interaction beyond "i used an ability that adds damage to abilities, to add damage to an ability"
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>>549335978
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>>549336410
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BAKER
more bread!
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>>549334809
>Surpassing chance
what the fuck does this mean
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how can you hate gainer-spender combo skills?

These people sound like they'd be happy casting level 30 Zeal standing in place holding down rmb
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>>549336595
Let it die, its over, uninstall wizard build...
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>>549336789
mmm ratato
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>>549335730
Games so shit nobody even bothers to argue with you top kek
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>>549336789
D4 builder/spender gameplay is pretty shit feeling in my opinion.
But I'm willing to give GGG the benefit of the doubt that they will make it enjoyable before I hit the point I don't want to wait any longer.
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>>549336789
Poe1 players are deranged. It is why righteous fire has been an extremely popular skill for so long
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>>549336789
the people who complain never say what they think a multi-skill interaction SHOULD look like. because they don't want to do them.
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>>549336954
To be fair this looks like it's the first d4 season in a while that they are putting in some effort. Will be nice after I burn out in 0.4
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>>549337060
Lost all but one finger in a freak lawn mowing accident. I need one button builds.
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Where is the bake
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>>549337067
>he bought d4
wouldn't even play it for free
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I'm generating some poop
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>>549337227
case in point
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>>549337227
>tfw no hard stare build
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Now you gotta keep playing

>>549337525
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anyone got a build that requires literally 0 button presses?
Like i open map, press some button and my character just clears the map on his own?
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>>549337662
>requires literally 0 button presses
>press some button
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>>549337662
you could try just *thinking* about playing the game.
that way you can have any loot you like. I play a lot of games like that.
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how come /poeg/ chat is more active after poe2 league reveal? did people actually give up on poe2 and came back to playing 1?
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Warning everyone ahead of time that every time I die I will becoming here to complain about how the league sucks, balance sucks, ascending sucks, etc to cope
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>>549335730
d4 is funny because I often create my character and hit T4 in the same sitting
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>guy showing he's got a ton of HoM cards
>ask for them
>obviously not given them
>ask people about boot crafts a little later
>he messages me and offers me 1 HoM if I craft my own decent boots
>ask about Armor/Evasion bases
>recommends Wyvernscale
>pick up a 29% quality for 10c
>Deafening Envy and get 34% Chaos Res, 8% Spell Suppress, and 120 Max Life
>craft on Movement Speed + Onslaught (8 tries for max rolls)
>use only a few embers/ichors for the implicits
>exalt and get increased armor/evasion t4
>he gives me the card
I feel genuinely proud i made decent boots for myself. I was able to drop my Cogwork Ring and pick up a really nicely rolled Woespike since I'll be putting more Impale in the build later (likely after changing sword to a rare, even if I think Varunastra is the coolest shit on the planet)



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