No Update Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/11-21-2025-update.90383/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlock: >>549359601
Will Silver be good or bad for the game's health?
Shuffled the cuddle tierlist around a bitPost tierlist
Join the InhouseTHB52THB52THB52
beyblade hero? no not a dreidel
There really is no reason to split push when death-balling is guaranteed success. You try to split push and the death ball immediately comes and swallows you while unless you're one of the few lucky heroes with good escapes and speed.
>Another Calico gameMight as well just show me the lose screen from now
>>549471190is there a best video for beginners? Like by that guy Deathy or someone else? Like the definitive up to date one?That runs you through "beginner to deadlock (but not necessarily to moba/hero shooters) basics and slightly advanced topics" that takes you through the gameplay loop, including "jungle" and shit? Jungle and jungle invade and ganks from jungle is what looks probably most intimidating considering I'm not familiar with the map and can barely even tell what icons are on the minimap (this is probably a bad thing if I wanna play Mina)Or a video that runs you through all the staple common items people will commonly go for depending on the character role/opposing team?>>New Player Guide>it's a list of moba terminology
kill inhouse trannies
Τhe black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
Rem should've looked like THIS.
need 3 for inhouse to startTHB52THB52THB52
>>549471690I finally won a game against her. Holiday lasso again and again, dragging her under walker. Also, Holiday might be the most fun character in the game.
>>5494721632 moar
>>549472370last slotTHB52THB52THB52
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>549472163Cute Geist
>deathy says Seven is probably OP>lists him in D tier on his channel and siteThe downplaying is real...
uhh with how fucked mm is can we force a thing where the eternus retards stay in their lane and not be able to swap to the weaker side? or are they too pussy to face each other?
pocket is epic
i think the current patch is actually great and laning is the best its ever been + walkers are excellent, my only issue is the speed meta + midboss still being shit
how to paige geist into mcginnis
>>549473750Take free ult advantage and rape once ult
>>549473848nigga we could not fucking secure a single soul
>>549473878Broke ass
>>549473750uhh buy monster rounds and neutralize the lane + farm boxes if its that bad?
>>549471493>Paige cuddlesif only
>>549473878>we could not fucking secure a single soulYou have 2 choicesEither harass the enemies so hard that they can't even show their face without risk dying, which Paige+Geist should be doing.Or use punch to kill confirm.
>two sub heroes selected>main character high prior>get infernus, one of sub heroesHOW DO PEOPLE GO NEGATIVE ON THIS HEROTHIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING
today I will remind them
>>549474704I will shit talk every Dynamo I ever come across.Everyone who plays this dumbass with his reddit bowtie is WORTHLESS
deadlock laning is legit the best and most dynamic and fun laning in any moba and its not even close imo
>>549472163THB52THB52THB52need 2 or 3 for inhouse
>>549474704And I will remind you that I'm ass blasted this stomp hits behind while lash's can no reg on stationary targets standing on flat ground.
>>549475114Even after the orb drop update?
>>549475267yes i like it, i think the new medpack is way better and can make for some clutch moments and just makes the lane more interactive
>>549475267Especially after the update
Oses Seven build is kinda bad since Seven's gun is bad, but at least he actually plays it unlike Apacycle'z Victor build that he himself literally does not use...
>Team has 3 people that are obviously a stack because they all have a similar naming scheme going on>Two of them are backseating me while dead>Tell one of them "stop typing retard">Gets offended and all chats about me saying THE R SLUR and then calls out my location to the enemy team for the rest of the matchThe sensitive Redditors getting pro players banned have invaded matchmaking
>>549471483Good. Extremely good
Just had to lane against stomp Dynamo and spirit Doorman
>>549475114>>549475267>>549475306Any video guides to laning?I'm watching Deathy's latest (2 weeks ago) video
peoples' names in this game are unhingedhalf this lobby has giga meme names
THB52need 1 for inhouse
the anvil of pain and misery is the best item in the game
>>549477648Still need 1
>>549474704>>549475264he sneeds it
>>549476190>The sensitive Redditors>THE R SLURYou mean you?Fuck off, Retarded niggeR
>>549478543https://4chan.org/rules#global
>>549478680>Sensitive pussy trying to hide behind rules & modsEvery fucking time.I'm just gonna say it once more, this place doesn't welcome you. Fuck off.
>>549478867trying too hard to fit in
>every playstyle that isn't Gun ivy is dogshit even after multiple nerfs to her gunthank you yoshivery cool
>>549478543are you retarded or indian or both? i was quoting the person in my match
>>549478867>this place doesn't welcome you.you don't know shit about what this place welcomes, you retarded election tourist.
I can't make Paradox work this patch for the fucking life of meis there a build that works?
>>549479776It's not just you.
Need 2 for inhouseTHB52THB52THB52
>>549479776>>549479917I have a near 100% win rate on her, I don't know what I'm doing so right. I mainly stick to swap builds and going for easy picks.
>>549480021Need 1. THB52THB52THB52
xth for fuck tranniesjannies suck my cock and balls
>>549479917Are we ignoring that Infernus having lower win rate?
>>549482483If you're Dynamo and you're the last one alive on your team you're doing something wrong
it's another all solos team against a 5 stack episode.fucking hate this dogshit matchmaking.
>>549483317this game unironically needs autobalance and votescramble
So whos taking a break til next yearOr are you hoping they do another christmas skin event lmao
I can't rank up because I only play honest heroes.
>>549483603Lef me guess. Mo and Krill?
>>549483575I've been on a hiatus since like october and I only come back here at the end of the day to gather the day's worth of people hating the game but still playing it. It reminds me of my dota days
>>549484895>>549483575Same. I love the game but I ain't gonna grind on the cuck playtest.When street brool comes out it'll be a comfy enough game mode for me to come back to the game regularly.
Vindicta bunnysuit got taken down because "people were bitching"I FUCKING HATE NEO-PURITANSVINDICTA WAS A CHILD *WHEN SHE DIED*SHE'S BEEN A GHOST FOR 50 FUCKING YEARS
>>549485831aww, gooner troon gonna cry?
>>549485831who cares you did download it?
>>549485831but she died 200 years ago
>>549486008you're even more brainrotten than the guy you're replying to
>>549477797based mods
>>549486009Yes, I have it. Its even still downloadable from the mod manager. The main problem is that it will probably break when the game updates. Of course, once the game gets VAC all the mods won't work, but it still makes me sad that the bunny vindicta is extra temporary...
>>549486250Lorelet, let me spoonfeed you.She died 200 years ago, yes, but she didn't come back as a ghost until the first maelstrom, 50 years before the in-game ritual.
TRVKE
>>549486250I didn't even know she was sick
How do I carry as Doorman exactly? I tend to get ahead in lane (5+ kills) but if there are too many weak links in the team I feel it's so hard to snowball.I do not have this issue with Geist for instance.
>>549485831it's less gay than playing normal paige because you're playing a man
>>549486742>muh coomer mod died...Why should I feel pity for someone who can't think without his dick in his hand
>>549487763I just like casual eroticism.Its not even nude or exposed or anything- its quite classy.
>>549488068Holy shit your dopamine receptors are this fried
>>549488178Nah, you're just a onions-fed zoomer hylic
>>549471493Drop Kelvin to awkward. He's a frozen corpse with no body heat.
>>549488416what's wrong with onions?
>>549487763Not him but after looking up the mod I kinda get it.Its tame enough to be an official skin (considering the skins in DOTA for female characters) and pretty well designed.
>>549488608its a wordfilter for s o y
>>549485831If she was actual child, Valve would make sure to point it out with design and her characterization, and since she calls Mina child it's safe to assume shes in her age range. So people who are being puritans about it are actually kind of retarded in their own way. Also, isnt Bikinidicta still up? Which would mean the modder actually removed the mod himself. Why do they shit themselves up this badly?
Vindicta is 16 no?
>>549489579No
>>549489668She died 16?
I accidentally got some deadlock takes from somewhere else and they were somehow more trash then hereI had no idea there was so many 4.8k haters. These "people" genuinely think build creativity and viability went down after the change, based off "feels" no doubt.Oh no you can't buy 7 purples in a row(you still can its just finally exposed as a shit strategy)
>>549489714No age has been given.
>>549489769my problem with the 4.8k thing is there's not enough item variety. mainly gun items.
>>549489579Her age is nowhere stated and her quote about being child is very subjective from her point of view, meaning she was this innocent person before death and now this angry, revenge driven ghost after death. Reading comprehension is truly dead it seems.
>>549489843I mean, she clearly doesn't look like a childDoesn't act like a childAnd is what, a 100+ year old ghost?I dunno I'm not a puritan, just a very weird thing to get mad at.
Call me retarded but I really like the early game nowStill miss solo lanes but this current iteration of laning phase is super funThings just sort of shit itself midgameWalkers are too strong the jungle is too simple and midboss is too bland as wellWhich feeds into them neglecting the base/patron because its all in the secret server
>>549490181>Walkers are too strongthey're useless!
>>549490181>Walkers are too strongIts the opposite, they're too weak.If you leave them alone for 10 seconds most m1 characters or seven can melt them. Defending feels ass too since the walker zone is so tiny, your only hope is trying to nuke the wake as fast as possible to bleed time for reinforcements.
>>549490164 All that, nothing about her looks or voice lines implied her age until someone said she was 16 and from that point some people are bent over in trying to classify her as a kid which is really fucking stupid.
>>549489837There is literally more gun items than spirit for t2 and t3
>>549490696by variety I do not mean quantity
>can't use the bathroom while in queue because the devs still refuse to add an accept match button to the queuehow has it gone on without it for this long?
>>549490805You sound like a complete slob.
>>549490796I know what you meant but I believe this to be a perception that isnt rooted in reality You dont have to pick cultist and fleetfoot every game
>>549490870what? for wanting to be able to do other things while in queue without risking landing in lane and getting shot at for free?
>>549491061Have you considered not queuing until you are prepared to play a match? You don't have any common sense, I'm afraid. Just because sometimes it takes a few minutes does not mean it will always take a few minutes. You might actually have some form of learning disability. I'm guessing you're not big into books either.
>>549490181Nah you'll learn to hate early game when you get out of shitlow. High level laning phase is either super stompy (which can really dictate the game hard) or it's just a complete stalemate, requiring rotations to make plays happen
>>549492227Weird because the high level players I've heard say the exact opposite
>>549492440You can just watch high level players play the laning phase and see how miserable it is
>>549492227Yeah, certain duos just dominate lanes. Geist + anyone is fucking annoying to lane against.
>>549491264some of us have 10+ minute queue times very frequently, not that you would know.
>>549493142I wasn't aware Initiate had such long wait times.
>>549493213one of the worst attempts at a comeback i've ever seen.i don't understand why you would get so hostile over a feature that literally every multiplayer game in the world with a queue has. absolutely crazy to get responses like this over that.
>he kneeledoh no noHAHAH HAHAHA HA HAHA HA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegarde_HawthorneThis is the most recent Hawthorne descendant I could find. I'm sure there are some that are alive too. Someone should inform them that there's a barefoot ghost in a video game that wants to kill them.
>>549493451NauseatingIn a sane world all the other dns players would spam nigger in solidarity
>>549492895I do tho? Its seems consensus is its an improvement from the previous iteration but also I dont watch seething toddlers
>>549493008Rush healbane vs geist for free lane
>>549493451oh noes muh heckin pro playerino!!!
So where's that December patch you were talking about?
>>549494605coming out in mid febuaraypeople saying january are delusional
>>549493451Honestly pathetic. Nothing’s more cringe than doing a 180 only because you got punished>haha nigger! Stay mad!>*recieve ban* >nonono I didn’t know I’m sorry I’ve changed I’ve changed I won’t do it again unban me unban me unban meIt’s the same as those Slavs who’d cheat unrepentantly until they got a ban and then cry and whimper on the forumHe would’ve been based if he just stood by it or said something like “it’s just a word get over it”. They shouldn’t unban or it’s just stupid because then it’s just “you can say the n word until you get punished them just apologise”
Could you recommend me a decent spirit Haze build? I'm in Arcanist, it doesn't need to be meta.
>>549494605same place it's always been: late january
>>549496190all in the sleep dagger so the usual like surge of power and QSR
I didn't even know that Smoke Bomb could have ability charges. Does literally anyone in the played base buy charge items for this?
>>549493451I mean, it was pretty expected. Kneel a little, go 'BOO HOO IM SORRY UWU ILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN' so you don't fuck over your team and can join again after being 'redeemed'.I don't get why the people involved think this is some big win, he obviously doesn't mean it, you know it, I know it, so all this gay fag drama has been a pointless waste of time unless you think shaming some brown siberian slav for saying the n word in a video game is somehow saving US race relations.
Been experimenting with active reload instead of qsr with mirage, feels pretty good ngl. The extra ammo is great and you still hit for almost 800 at 4.8k
>>549494605Two more weeks, trust the plan.
Fucking retarded leakers dont even have the courtesy to just dumpshit now that the update is delayed
>>549498412they got beheaded by yoshi
>used rallying charge to cancel a 3 man+ enemy dynamo (and a sinclair) ult like 5 times today#supportdiff
>>549498412rumours are bubbling that the reason the update is delayed is that the leaks where fucking with the dev's workflow, and they couldn't push shit to experimental as fast as they wanted.makes sense since for a company as prestigious as valve getting leaked makes them look sloppy + these leaks aren't the same as fortnight/genshin leaks, due to the WIP nature of the game.
>>549499672That sounds dumbAre you implying that the leakers leaked too much so instead of just the street brawl they felt compelled to do a 6 hero updatw too
>>549499672just make experimental experimental client then kek I think they should just disband this secret club already. Their 'feedback' is proven to be shit desu
>lose all walkers at 15 minutes, but none of us are feeding>the enemy is strong, but I am good at movement>manage to secure 2 comeback urns in a row from doorman and mcginnis keeping the enemies away while we cap>turns into 2 neutral urns in a row, the enemy getting picked off trying desperately to stop it from happening>one more enemy comeback urn, but now we're much stronger and more coordinated then them, wipe, and then midboss -> windon't care what anyone says, I love the urn
>>549499672That's retardedThe update got delayed cause valve doesn't abuse their employees into working triple overtime during the holidays
>>549500735>Whoever deliver the urn doesn't matter, it's who can win the fight & steal the urn that matters>Feels bad to deliver the urn and lose the urn to enemies, might as well just not do urn at all>Most urns are claimed by the team with souls leaddon't care what anyone says, I hate the urn
>>549471858Please commission someone to make a big breasted patchouli mod for paige
>>549500735>>549501357>brool happens outside of the area>enemy drops the urn and leaves>come in from behind and deliver ithehehehe
>>549501831Just happened to me just now.Enemies saw that we are camping the destination, so they just gave up the urn and left.I ran to grab the urn and claim it for free.
how do you make mods for deadcock?
>>549500735>Pickup urn>Suddenly entire enemy team is personally paged to come rape me and my entire team just took their paid vacation leave
what if you could attack and use abilities whilst carrying urn BUT it restricted the use of movement abilities whilst carrying it.
>>549503082then it would be even easier for the winning team to take urn
>>549503147okay so what if only the LOSING team could attack whilst carrying urn?
I feel more things should be happening underground and in the rooftopsBut I dont know what they should add there
>>549503398bird neutrals
>>549503398some dragon like objective on the rooftops would be cool they should make the midpit connect into the underground system somehow, they need to make the midpit easier to access anyways
>>549485831can you post screenshots of how it looks?
>>549503510desu i feel a midboss/dragon type objective would be too easy to spot and contestmaybe make it like an elusive flying nob that gives you the ability to supercharge a zipline for everyone
guys the jews control people to build punch viscous do not fall for it
>>549503510midboss should be a sandworm that has a permanent blackhole-like immobilization, if you cant kill it before it succs you to the middle then it one shots you
>>549504381what if midboss roar collapsed blue lane and opened the pit up temporarily
>>549504509lash made this post
They should give the Patrons special abilities that theyll sometimes use on the map
>>549504751>Coming from skybox to mid to do 4000 damageIt would be beautiful.
>>549493451why bother? he witch hunting mob has already deemed him an undesirable. There is no redemption for him in their eyes.
>>549503398>>549503510I think they should move the farm to be more towards the middle of the map instead of people just retreating into their own jungles. Ideally they would reorganise the 'river' so the farm could be on the rooftops of buildings that are roughly where the river is and you would have a lot of fun rooftop fights over 'neutral' farm.Can someone who actually knows what they're talking about tell me why this is a bad idea?
Actually playing Haze made me develop some appreciation for her. That dagger is a lot harder to hit than it looks. It's basically 2D.
>>549506230They should add an actual river that can rescend when midboss is up. Hell, add sewers.
>you can parry puddle puncham i just stupid, i feel like it never works when i try... or do you have to be looking at it for it to work
>>549507627Sewers would be cool as a zip alternative, you already have both bases higher up than the middle so you could surf or slide all the way to mid
I think I hate cult sac. I almost never notice the benefits and its just expensive enough to be annoying and delay an item thats more fun. Is it really so good that it deserves to be slammed into over half of all public builds?Monster rounds is cool though.
>>549508495They already got hidden pipes in the bases too.
>>549508835heavily depends on the jungle's farm
Lash's Q really should be melee damage instead of spirit.
>>549508835No i dropped it a long time ago when they nerfed every single stat on it, people will spend 3.6k and then buy an 800 with it, it basically never pays for itselfWow so op
>>549509343Cultist pays for itself on Victor and Seven, and that's it.
>>549509429And even on those heros is it worth delaying your already distant lategame for +range? I dont think so
>>549509223A lot of abilities should be based on weapon or melee damage. They should also remove or at least nerf a lot of the melee abilities. Like Spirit Snatch is just too insane of an ability. It adds practically a spells worth of damage on top of the damage your ability already has and then steals spirit power AND spirit armor (which reduces their armor, meaning they take even more damage). It's just absurd especially on heroes who have AoE melee abilities.
>>549510071calico would be super homeless without spirit snatch though
>>549510319I'm not hearing a downside.
>>549510071M1gger hands typed this post
if you debuff remove siphon bullets stacksand someone with those stacks is currently living entirely off the stacksdo they just die
>>549509847It is because it's an efficient way to get your 4.8k which is also a huge spike.
>>549511224No. Their max health is reduced, but not current health (unless the new max health is lesser than current health).
>>549511364this, I buy it + kinetic dash on spirit doorman and it's enough to change my gun from a tickler to a credible threat
Is there an easy way to transfer settings between accounts? Like can I download someone's config file or something or do I have to copy every setting from a picture?
>>549511364>>549511679You can hit the spike without getting cultist ya know. Your doorman gun would be even scarier with a real item
>>549508835It's fine on heroes that basically are online with lane items like billy or pocket desu
>>549474704This is why you always stomp at the end of your ult, you will get all of them.
>>549512229I'm taking about Vic and Seven though, where the farm benefits, range buff, and 4.8k combined are all rather good. Cultist and Fleetfoot are all you need on those two.
>4th game in a row with a leaver/afkthis is hell
They unironically need to make the game 5v5. There is no benefit to 6v6 other than the current lanes not being built for a 1v1 midlane. They need to figure this out before it's "too late"
People complaining about the meta are dumb, what even is a deathball. Yes, players group up in MOBAs to take down objectives that's the fucking point. The speed items are broken tho, just because I'm too bad to track an Usain bolt wraith causing mayhem and running away. Fuck that bitchHigh ascendant btw
>>549511802The tool I use is called play on your main little bitch
>>549515501You're 100% right. One of my friends quit the game over this and I don't know how to explain this to him. The way he played the game was super reliant on how passive the game was before and now that he's getting punished by a group of enemies for pushing up he's raging. The only argument right now that I'll entertain related to "deathball meta" is that rotation is too quick and easy because of map design and movement items.
>>549515849>>549515501remove the vents and nerf sprinting
I just joined a friend who is in the leaver queue. We went against all russians and laned as lash/vis vs vindicta dynamo. I swear to god they were cheating because they never ever missed a single denial (lol 150 ping) or headshot. This is awful.
>play characters I like>get fed but can't carry, 5 losses in a row for retarded reasons>play wraith>40k at 25min unstoppable even after inting laneIt's just not fair, bros. This might just make me main the black woman of originality.
Range is op on circular aoes because the value is squared
>>549516193absolutely, the vents are terrible and a failed experiment.
>>549486742any download link for the vindicta mod?
>>549516432Hypercarries are the worst part of the game, legit turn your brain off until you hit your 30-40k powerspike then just steamroll everyone.
>>549514594I want a 4 lane 8v8 mode with a larger map.
>>549516432Tips for playing Wraith? What's your build?
We need an item that affect probabilities.
>>549517897I just use sanya_sniper2011's build. He's really fucking good at wraith.Look at his twitch VODs if you want to see how he plays.
>>549515501>what even is deathballDeathballing is distinct from simply pushing as a team in that deathballs basically never split up. There are no 1v1s or even 2v1s, its always at least half of the team vs 1 pick, roaming to get an easy kill or two that they can leverage into a numbers advantage for the actual objective push.
my bros started playing arc raiders, trying to get them to return to DL again but it's looking real fucking grim right now
>>549471190Is mirage actually a hero to play in this game? Tried 2 times and feels like weaker Mina/Talon. They push one button to deal the same amount of dmg as ur x8...
>>549518392He's better than he used to be but you need good macro and since the meta is brooling...FOR THE DJINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>549518319Your bros only play streamerslop sad to sayNot even worth the breath to try and convince them as they will just pay piggie ape into whatever gamerdude247 tells them too. We can only pray that gamerdude picks up deadlock for a week
>>549518392sole honest gun user of the game
Marvel rivals just released a more fun sinclair it's over for valve
>>549518392He is weaker maybe if you only look at damage and ignore everything elseHe is significantly tankier than both of them and still hits like a truck but with a longer ramp up. My noob advice for mirage is to build him tankier than you think you should, in an attrition fight djnns mark is your trump card
>>5495145941v1 lane is never happening again they learned their lesson, this game is shit for 1v1sWell it's shit in general but a lot can be fixed. 1v1 can never be fixed. I get youre fixated on the autistic 1v1 laning thing but 99% of the players hated it.
>>549518804Thats cool unfortunately I am not braindead so I quickly reached the rank where the horrendous balance became unignorable
why does vyper do so much fucking damage in lane aiiieeeeee
>>549519056LOL and deadlock is balanced? HAHAHAHAHA
>>549517747well unless they kept the old map somewhere it would work with that with some tweaks
>>549519285marvelslop makes yoshi look talented at balancing what is your point? embarassing post.
>>549519285Just checked, even with this unfinished jank piece of shit, the winrates never go beyond 56% ish percent.Meanwhile this piece of shit is nearly 60%, what the actual fuck. How do you have worse balance than a game in beta?
>>549518967>this game is shit for 1v1slol no it isn't and 1v1s allow for more skill expression and importantly. VERY importantly. A 1v1 lane allows for actual lane rotations to happen when the map is built for it.In it's current state, rotating is not a thing unless you already won/lost your lane. It's just not worth losing out on the XP and if the opponents realize they're now in a 2v1 lane they can shove hard and it's impossible to defend and the tower will get a huge chunk taken out of it. In a 1v1 lane, that's less likely to happen if you rotate and you'll already have accelerated farm so if you lose out a few from a bad rotation it's not a big deal. There's just a lot more depth to it. But again the game isn't fully built for this yet either because mid is not 1v1 oriented and rotations aren't any easier to make from mid to side as side to mid. Additionally, THERE'S NO FUCKING DRAFT SYSTEM. Teams are still completely random, so the likelihood of bad 1v1s are higher especially if someone is queued up with a friend and refuses to take mid lane
>>549519627That's cause there's economy involved and items that can completely shut down a character like curse. And no mirror matchups which also screws with winrates. But in any case the balance even i worse in rivals feels less bad cause it's not a 35 minute torture there's a surrender button too.
>no content updates for 4 months>not even something as small as a wacky little holiday event that would take about 2 hours to code>whoops time for a fucking vacation! lol got to take a break from all this hard work we where doing!At this point either A: deadlock has like 3 devs or B: Valve is just so fucking lazy most of there day must be spent doing literally nothing. I'm guessing a bit of both
>>549518804>melee tankdiscarded in a week
>>549516432yes wraith is the biggest elo inflater in the game, you stop when your shame kicks in
>>549520074Just like 99% of people's experience with deadlock>>549520063They're just dragging out development for as long as possible they know the game is going nowhere and just want to get an easy paycheck
>>549519218because she completely falls off late unless she gets a 20k lead
Is it wrong to have this much fun playing Seven?
>Player goes Gunman>Is a blatant aimbotterevery time
>>549516652https://deadlockmods.app/mod/636160>>549504056Here you go
>pop drifter ult >all 3 people it hit get divine barriered instantly
>>549520724>player drifter>die
i picked drifter and died in real life
>>549520513It's wrong to have any fun playing deadlock at all
>>549520101what are other characters like that?
>>549520547you should play doorman and see just how retardedly easy it is to get a headshot, theres a reason gunman was so popular before and its not because it was fun
>>549521249ivy pre nerfs, maybe she still qualifies Im not surepaige
>>549520063None of the devs want to actually work on this game. 100% this game would've gotten canceled had Uncle Dane the molester main didn't leak it.
>>549522009Funny, even when he's trying to kill a game he cant do shit right
When will Valvo add a fairy hero to deadlock?
>>549522009>>549520063What a load of shit, most of the devs are happy just to be working on something that will actually ship since most of Valve's projects fall through before getting this far.You're just babies crying when they have to wait two weeks for their new toy.
>>549522754Doorman is a fairy
>>549522754when will valvo add a cute shota hero to deadlock?
>>549508251Parry hardly ever works in general, I think it's a network issue. Also it still makes parry go on cooldown so you'll get fucked no matter what
>>549523141That will be Pocket's next redesign
>>549474704I will still do lowest damage on the team too
>>549523386i hope soi wanna gape a shota
>m1ggers m1ggers m1ggers!!!!would you rather get 1 shotted across the map from a geist bomb or with a shiv dagger? I don't get it
>>549523926nuh uh because I would be throwing the Geist bomb>how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfastbut I did eat breakfast this morning
>>549523926yes because>against spiritbuy spirit resist/debuff remover/counterspell and it evens the playing field>against gunlose with no counterplay or win with no counterplay no inbetween
>>549523017It's only shipping because it got leaked early.>>549523059Snopes fact check: false
I FUCKING LOVE EVERY GAME BEING DECIDED AT 10 MINUTES IT'S SO FUCKING FUN
>>549523926buff bullet resist items and maybe they won't be so egregious
>>549515501i assume when people complain about deathballing they complain about it being so strong as to make split-pushing a nonviable strategy, which honestly i'm too pisslow to tell you if that's actually the case.either that or they're mad about getting three-man rotated on which honestly that's understandable
games should be decided at 15 minutes
i like deathball metat. mains billy, paige, and wraith
>>549515501When you rotate to stop a split push it's supposed to be a commitmentExcept it isn't in deadlock because you cross the map in 0.5s anyway even for "immobile" characters because fleetfoot exists
>>549524941Then make the game shorter
>>549524976i hate it genuinely impossible to solo push because 4 people always fall into you and you die instantlyt. born to rat forced to brool
>>549525039Damn, I broke something.
so what is the difference between carry/hypercarry and initiatori have seen the latter term thrown around a bit but not entirely sure what it entails
>>549524528>they were totally about to cancel it when they let hundreds of external playtesters download it to their own computers and invite their friends
>>549525327does big damage late gamegets a pickbebop and para are initiatiors that are not carriesvictor and seven are hypercarries that are not initiatorswraith and haze are both because of sleep and telekinesis
>>549525327initiator starts or forces a fighthypercarries do everything
>>549525327Simple, the 10/0/4 enemy Haze is the hypercarry, and your team's 0/7/3 Bebop is their initiator
>>549525371>Valve project #200 would totally not end up like Valve project #199 and all the projects proceeding it (canceled and buried in a ditch somewhere).
>>549522009>>549522751>random eceleb scitzo postingNobody is trying to kill your game, retard
I had a very fun game yesterday that lasted 40 minute with lots of back and forth.Archon btw
>>549524976I love deathball meta
>>549525327Don't let rolecucks mind rape youYou can hyper carry with any hero you can initiate with any hero
>>549525327Initiator has a tool that allows you to immediately start a fight on an advantage if done properly. Like abrams phantom strike -> shoulder charge is a perfect one. Bebop hook. Drifter ult is sort of initiation too it doesnt have to be a stun or reposition
>>549524429>lose with no counterplay or win with no counterplay no inbetweenmetal skin?
>>549525556Haze yes because it's instant, wraith is not an initiator. She can gank solo targets but initiators start teamfights not pick off people. I dont even think mo and krill is an initiator for the same reason, you need an advantage before the krill ult is used it's not something that creates one.
>>549526368metal skin does nothing it's like the worst item in the entire game
>>549526582>>549526368metalskin is literally only used for haze's ultimate. even then you're better off just getting knockdown, curse, silence, etc
/v/ is having a melty about deadlock again
>>549527119cool
>>549527119keep us updated sis, what of the discord
>>549527203dunno something about how half-life 3 is gonna save gaming or something
>>549527119It's a day that ends in Y so /v/ fags are having a meltdown about something
>>549527119>browsing /v/ in the big '25
>Buy Meme Rounds and just full force my clip into candles every time>Wraith Paige lane just full pushes my shit in anyways and I have no wave controlAmazing waste of 800
>>549525231NOOOO YOUR SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE
>>549525231
Mirage is alright. Although I don't quite understand what he is supposed to do, and his 1 is almost useless.
I dont mind the 4.8k gaming but you will never ever convince me to build gun on Lash
>>549478905>>549479413I mean he's not wrong you retarded niggers, no one cares.
>>549529672apply marks, get big damage
>>549529920I like headshot booster while laning but I don't understand why every Lash player build headhunter after
>>549529920you say this until you buy point blank fleetfootvgh
>>549530116maybe because its easy to just proc after slamming? what else would you even buy other than cultist?
Valve should add another vampire, but blond this time.
>>549530375>point blank on lash
>>549530116Same reason why you take it on Dynamo, stomp = free headshot
>>549530471No more vampires. We need a sexy blonde gnome hero
>>549530498when you stomp, you end up in front of them and get free potshots ZOMG
>>549530464Won't mystic shot give you more damage in that case? It even cost less
>>549526205t. oracle peaker sucking up his teams farm on dyamo and pressing black hole 3 times all game but cant figure out why hes hardstuck
>>549530654you buy both for the gun bonus, and mystic doesnt heal you
>>549530464Spirit rendSoulshredder bulletsToxic bulletsEscalating resilience Opening rounds(gives spirit)Slow bulletsMystic shotCrippling headshot
>>549530947
>>549530676Rank posting is cope and also retarded, try harder
>>549531302exposed
>>549531083All the top lashes are buying toxic now but you wouldnt know that because you are mentally stuck 3 patches ago and are unable to think for yourself
the truth is the main reason why everyone hates m1ggers is because of how little skill the m1gger guns take, if their guns were holliday tier people would respect them but they are all no recoil bullet hoses that ironically take the least actual skill to use of any of the actual guns in the game
>>549531574Skill means nothing to meI just hate getting tagged with on-hit effects just for being in somebodies line of sight
>>549531348I accept your concession retard-kun
>>549531734t. seething mid rank shitter
>>549516432>want to try Victor for the first time>enemy team is Haze, Wraith, Infernus, Dynamo, Sinclair, Mo&Krill>Stacking>Smurfing>entire team is 0/10>70k soul difference>Pocket is audibly crying over micI just want to try the different characters instead of person that just shoots you but if I do get matches designed to fuck my mouth
>>549520920they need to make her built less like a twig
>>549529672From whatve seen his 1 is used only to reload ur gun with QSR
>>549532572no man, shes a fucking peasant teenager from like the 1600s, shes perfect
>>549524985>>549524769>>549515849Precisely correct. It needs to be posted on the gameplay feedback forums, I mentioned it in a post I made.The deathballing we see is really the end result of team rotations becoming far too quick. There are some characters who's gimmick it is to go fast like calico or haze, but everyone can. THE MAP NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERABLY BIGGER, but that brings it,'s own issues... so more impprtantly the routing needs to be harder. Jump pads are fun but need to be removed in places, more obstacles, enemies, general annoyances or changes to level geometry need to be in place. There needs to ne more types of objectives to keep teams busy so they're less incentivized to ball up or hyper rotate. These are the real core issues; with the map and people's movement.Jungle rework NOW
>metro completely overextends>builds wraith like a complete fucking inbred, greenmaxing and 2 maxing>his team has to collapse to save him, he lives, his entire team dies, and he loses the gamecomplete fucking shitters will watch that and then use his build because the only thing they can understand is surviving while playing like a retard and how awesome it is
>>549532814Jump vents should have one of these next to them and they only activate if you heavy melee them and then they go on cooldown for 30s or something
>>549533069Same issue with Oses building gun-seven...
>>549529672This one was a bit harder because of the Drifter, but I'm getting the hero. I'll play his as the objective master, defending and pushing.
>>549532814Your obsession with changing the map itself capsizes your argument. Valve has already been nerfing movement, and there are plenty of easier ways to slow rotations that dont require months of work. Personally, I fail to see how making a dense map even more dense is a good thing.
I don't like that whenever you see Lash, it's always the same items, with almost no deviation. He is the most solved hero.
>>549532671>>549532671I ise it for wave clear, 4 bug for 4 troopers. If they die under the steal its like you did 200+dmg, plus it shreds their armor which let's you and your duo smash them easierI honestly think trying to hit heros with it is bait but if its free ill take the shot
>>549534086>Merc magSORRY WHATWHY???
>>549534086They gutted all his other items
>>549532675come onnnn. just a little bit
>>549518804>only steals abilities>can't pick whichWhat's even the point if I can't pick?Also loki steals ults already, and bc he's in the game he's in, it usually boils down to boring 8-10 sec healing healer ult. Rivals is a dogshit game.
>>549534086If by solved you mean everyone is a retard scared of change then I agree with you but mo is also the same build for 8 months
>nigger team feeds billy 16/1 by 15 minutes>ivy leaves>rest of team is at least 8 deaths>i'm the only one positive at 7/1i leftno reason to stay since it was a loss either way
>>549533069People following Streamers are retards anyways, keep seeing streamer builds being the top used and when you click on it; the most ass backwards throwing build you’ve ever seen, it atleast explains why every Doorman I see is going 0/2/5 at the end of every match
>>549534819Thats true but green wraith is unironically meta and your hate has blinded you from the undeniable truth
Why did they overtune calico
Damn, this is what Nashala looks like?
>>549535087yeah doing no damage until 30k is definitely meta bro
>>549530654yeah you just get boththey're the only good gun items on lash because they compliment his burst, he's the last hero you'd want to stack gun damage items on
>>549535208In non shitlow matches they will dive the carry so building green is a counterBesides wraith does nothing until 30k anyways, the difference is you get clapped by a single retard focusing you and he can survive 5
>>549535108They should make her ult even closer to Ethereal Shift. Have it so she can leave it at any time BUT, it does not do two procs of damage, only the one when she leaves it. So she must choose between the damage or invincibility
>>549535431hmmm nah, I actually play in non shitlow matches, and youre a metro viewer, dont argue with me
>>549534149Adds damage that is scaling separately from his weapon dmg, tesla is also not terrible because of this
Mirage if he shave.
>>549535565I accept your concession
>>549535619I never noticed that he has an earpiece connected to his djinn bottle apparatus. That's pretty cool.
>>549535134
>>549533865You don't have to make it more dense, they could build above or below and mame it more interesting in those places.But the map is a very small portion of the overall problem, any changes they've done have done JACK SHIT to stop people from hyper rotating and balling at the 10-15. At higher ELO the team that coordinates to do this better just wins.I think the walker and flex changes have just incentivized this behavior bc of the HP pools and Walkers themelves being easy to sidestep.
>>549536336It needs to be less dense. I hate that every teamfight is happening in super narrow hallways. There are no open areas that are good for teamfighting ever since they decided to put the buffs in the sky.
>>549536532what if they just make everyone smaller
>>549536336And in a game with matchmaking like this, it's just hard to pivot if you weren't locked in at the 10-15. It's really annoying. There's not enough le-way for the losing team. Funny enough, the game was in a similar spot a year ago, I remember how awful the end of year meta was.And don't try to discredit what im saying as a whole bc one part is more or less a problem. The map is part of it, so is the rest. Mechanics and player behavior intersect to create meta, it's a multifaceted problem by nature.
>>549535478I just think she's way too strong and her abilities scale so well. I shouldn't be able to dive you at 3.5k so easily with two huge invuln burst damage
i would infinite perfer ward calico over the bullshit she is now
>>549535108She's dog rn, seeker-kun
how do you lane against mina as paige?i don't think i've won lane against her unless she was retarded
>>549535087How so? I never play Wraith but I assume she’d be crazy with a mainly Gun build
wtf is this matchmaking?
>>549538295A couple reasons, its fucks with the trinity. Usually the best counter to gun carries is blowing them up, running greens means you dont get blown up. The other big reason is her 3 has huge value if you can activate it multiple times in a fight, the more you cast it the higher your chances of winning go. This also applies to the macro sense, the longer the game goes on the higher her winrate goes so it becomes a game of not dieing(and losing)
>>549538295look up sanya sniper for an actual good wraith build, green wraith is a metro cope concoction for awful positioning while simultaneously vacuuming all resources from his team
>>549538775the matchmaking across the board is absolute dogshit
Lost a game where the enemy Infernus only did 16k damage in a 37 minute game but he built tank and became an ult bot with refresher.
Ive cooked a new lash gun 4.8k>opening rounds(+40%)>long range(+40%)>intensifying mag(+40%, your mag dump is like 10 seconds its cool)Grand total of +174% 23.18 bullet dmg or 69.54 per burst
>>549535912he really do be gettin joi off instructions in his ear during the match from nashala
Anyone Archon/Oracle want to queue together? NA region..XCDD1I'll leave the party up for 15 mins then start queueing
>>549530471Yes, his name will be Alucard.
>>549542298Will you talk in sissy voice for me?
>>549542298if i wasnt sick as fuck in bed id play, glhf anon
>>549542009My bad I had no boons its 86.91 per burst
Is there a reason why Ivy's gun does like no fucking damage to creepsLike early game a full clip dump cant even kill 1
>haven't played deadlock in a few weeks>pick Victor>vaguely remember hearing that infuser fagging isn't the play anymore>not sure what to build, just buy rapid recharge while I think >decide to go all in on movespeed>radiant regen, surge of power, juggernaut, whatever that tier 4 healing booster item is called>run around like an evasion tank>don't even directly engage anyone, just dance around like I'm a loot goblin, wall bouncing and random little detours around trucks and other terrain>10-1-13honestly one of the most fun matches I've ever played. I could feel everyone's frustration over missing their kits on me half the time. They barely even procced my ult.
>>549542605She used to be a support character who's gun was shit before m1tards complained that their waifu was not playable for them.
>>549542605You start with 4 stamina, you should be sliding during lane phase. It becomes easier once you start buying your gun items
>>549542605learn to slide and punch creeps? it's not like ivy is a squishy laner she has easy healing so it's fine to go in and get creeps up close.
>>549542906>she has easy healingWhich hero has hard healing?
>you WILL buy random shit your hero doesn't want because the color matches the autistic break point requirement i just added into the latest slop experimental patch
>>549518804Funny that you mentioned Rogue and not Loki, who has been since release, copies with his ult, places stationary clones that fire with him and he can switch places with.
>>549542605She used to be a gun character with slight supportive abilities before spirit trannies complained that their waifu was not playable for them.
>>549543068The ones with 0 lifesteal baked into kit and poor starting regen.Seven for example only has 1 hp per second at base. He absolutely struggles with poke lanes.
>>549543176Smite loki has clones too, why did loki become synonymous with shadow clone jutsu
>>549542605because a well placed kudzu(charged ability btw) can clear on its own, added to that you have 4 stam
>>549543506Le well place kudzu doesn't clear shit early game lol
>>549543137>random shit your hero doesn't wantshow me one hero that's doing this right now
>>549543137there are items every hero wants in every category, if you can't figure that our you're an idiot
>>549543595a full duration kudzu is like 2 pocket cloaks of damage but please tell me who is clearing waves with 1 ability better than ivy early game
>>549544034Pocket
>>549544130I dont know why I bother discussing this game here kek
>>549544212Yeah you're obviously too stupid to be here lol.
>>549544034dynamo or paige
If I hosted a thread game would people join
>>549544350dynamo has to invest spirit to get range on kinetic for wave clear, paige is arguable I guess
>>549542298ok anons maybe next time... wish me luck in my games!!!
>want to play a character like victor but victor is too prettywhy didn't they make him a fat ugly slob
>>549544418yes
>>549544418I play for fun, not to be a sweatlord, so no.
>>549545395the average rank of inhouses is seeker, they are fellow "fun enjoyers"
What streamer told ever McNiggis to rush tesla bullets?
>>549545550Its from the before time, the long ago when capacitor was bought more than 2 /1000 games
>>549533285>walljump>heavy melee>vent now sends me flying away while the enemy has to just watchAre you retarded
>>549546567if you arent close enough to parry you deserve to lose the chase
>>549547375so every chase then?
i love being on the losing team three games in a row>b-b-but you're the only constant1/10/4 mirage, 0/8/1 infernus, 2/7/6 dynamo, 0/14/4 haze
>>549549124a 3 game streak ain't shit
>>549549124I've been on a 6 win streak loser, cope. I'm terrified of playing one more game because I know for a fact I'll get the most dogshit team possible.
>>549538775This shit happens to me constantly, I'm in Seeker somehow fighting fuckers in Arcanist
>>549550462I'm more surprised that they only managed to get 3 kills on us
If I'm on a loss streak it's only because my teammates suckIf I'm on a winstreak it's only because of me and my pro skills
>me and 2 other teammates on green>we successfully kill two enemy players>there's 3 enemies showing on yellow>everyone but me leaves green with nearly full hp to do something else (blue isn't in any danger) instead of pushing walkerIT KEEPS HAPPENINGIT KEEP HAPPENING IT KASKEPOEFU CK?IGN F?UAAPAHEPHRFIKJHJHDG F
>>549542817ivy's gun received nothing but nerfs since release thoughin fact at the start it was already one of the worst guns in the game
>>549543506And if you do that, you don't get the souls anymore because they died out of range, heraldbro
>Ivy's tether buffs her teammates gun>teammates she flies around can't shoot?????????
>>549545395>I'm not a sweatlord but also losing makes me troon out and ragequit
you should be able to play duplicate heroes in private games
>>549554129you... can
>>549554430i thought it wouldn't let you start with dupes? why are there never fun lobbies of 6 hero vs 6 hero posted here?
>>549554737i remember seeing a game with 3 minas
>>549554737Because people hear dupe heroes and just play 6v6 Redditbop every time
>>549554737Because anytime we did dupe heroes some faggots here would cry about it. One time we did multiple bebops and they seethed for three threads straight
>>549554737it got fixed a long time ago. now dupes are just unbalanced and aren't really that fun
You should get your test access revoked if you put up a game like this I'm not joking
>>549555484Post your own stats in that match faggotKDA means jack shit, unless the rest of your team has 50k damage then he at least tried.
INHOUSE UPINHOUSE UPINHOUSE UP
>>549555903homie, his only concept of teamwork is just dynamo's ult. dont waste your time with him
Since 2025's focus was new heroes, what's the focus of 2026 going to be? Any predictions?
>>549557101Hopefully more objectives/jungle revamp. its why too plain right now. Maybe some more map complexity too.
>>549556960you are supposed to post an inhouse code...
I'm so hecking big, strong, massive, powerful, peerless in my domain.
>>549557327seekerGOD...!
>>549557101Hopefully making the map more fun to actually fight on
>>549557227>>549557101100% the mapJungle revampMidboss revampMaybe some new objectivesAlso probably new game modes too
>>549557228oh shit i forgot
>>549553063true theres no way a character with free healing and 4 stam could ever be close enough to get those
>>549557101Expanding the roster is still going to be a major goal until the game is publicly released.>>549557227This won't happen until years after post-release, if that.
>>549557719>seriously going up alone to the tower where two m1ggers are waiting for you at level 1>and not sharing souls with your teammate while you're at itlmaoI accept your concession you gave with grace
Should I build Mirage spirit or gun? His mark seems like it would nuke someone if I get 8 stacks as spirit.
>>549557736>This won't happen until years after post-release, if that.I hope not. I don't want this game to have dota-level of macro, that wouldn't fit, but it does need something more substantial to spice up the games. Midboss/Urn aren't it.
>>549557975thank you for a glimpse into the mind of a seeker ivy, your input was valuable bro
>>549558083another objective is getting added next update
Inhouse02C0702C0702C07
>>549558034iirc spritual overflow is busted on him, you need a lot of cdr so you can mark as fast as possible
>>549558134Looking forward to seeing you on the leaderboards, apparent eternusfag (lmao)
>>549558034spirit sap, qsr, improved spirit in lane as fast as you can to make your 3 nuke then you can do whatever you want from there
>>5495582696/12
>>5495582699/12
>>549557101if they release 6 more heroes in january, that's 16 heroes in 12 monthsthey still need another 10-20 for a full release imo, open beta 2027next year will probably focus more on the user experience and casual gamemodes
They are 100% going to update jungle and midboss before release lmaoLike come on theyre literally just stationary turrets at the momentEven the fucking guardians/walkers are more interesting than them
>do alright>lose after 50 minutes because your team is just mediocreno worse feeling
>>54955826910/12 need 2 more
>>549559563but it sounds like you are also mediocre
>>549559587Post feet and I'll join.
>>549542850Sliding for ammo is the gayest and most tedious garbage I've ever had to deal with in any shooter
>>549559519>roaming jungle creep that moves all around the map (except lanes)>worth more money/drops statue buffs>have to heavy melee it to claim the dropsthink about it
>>549559940feet
>>549560215Id love a roaming sewer campAnd rooftop camps that fly everywhere
>It wasn't the Deadlock update that was Tuesday>All this time it was actually TF2FUCK
>>54955826911/12need just 1 player
There should be ZERO investment bonus.No faggy 4.8k— no nothing.Worst mechanic ever made for a MOBA. like holy shit.
so did all the kelvin players swap to dynamo or something?
>>549560887yeah, I mean most kelvin players were shameless tier whores so it makes sense to me
>>549560848Why not?
>>549558269STILL NEED 1 PLAYER02C0702C0702C07JOIN QUICK
>>549561006IT MAKES A THE MOST SNOWBALLING GAME IN HISTORY MORE SNOWBALLING, YOU STUPID FUCK
>>549561335Don't be mean.You know if you took away the investment stats and just put more raw stats on items instead that would have the same effect.
>team doesnt play on the deathball>lose>people don't do the one singular item build>loseyeah this game sucks
>>549561335Okay so we go back to just items having statsWhat now
>>549561335investment bonus makes it less snowbally because it concentrates power around the middle investmentif you're getting shitstomped you're going to get shitstomped either way, but if you're only losing slightly and you hit 4.8k you can be competitive with the enemy who has 6.4k in damage
>>549561705What's wrong with items having stats?
>>549561705wdym "what now"? It makes items more important. A lot of items already come with somewhat random other stats, with health being the most common (and most arbitrary). But there's a big difference between buying fleetfoot and getting +30% weapon damage and a version of the game with no shop bonuses and fleetfoot just giving you the passive/active and near pointless 6% bullet resist. Stats are a really good way to balance items INDIVIDUALLY but when you have the shop bonuses something like that becomes the last piece in your early game powerspike just because it also gives the shop bonus on top.
>>549561705unironically a much better solution. then they can make more interesting items
>>549561815Nope. There's a ton of factors to snowballing but you can combine shop bonuses directly with levels. In the early game you get levels pretty fast and a 2-3k soul difference ends up being MASSIVE because of >Base bullet damage scaling your weapon damage bonuses>Getting the AP to have a tier 3 ability >More health just from levels (which can be a 200+ health difference on top of having more items which can also give you extra health as a bonus)
I think I'm finally getting the hang of this.
>>549563031Kill yourself, degenerate
>seeker gamethis shit sucks and i'm not having fun reeeeeeeeee i had to yell at my team to actually push down mid when we he rejuv and 2? were dead, they just fucked off to do nothingthen I had to yell at them again to push down mid and focus + kill patron when 4 of them were dead, they wanted to fuck off and do other thingswhy do they need wrangling so bad
>>549563031Why does lash dog have a massive fucking underbite.
any hero leaks since pepper?
>>549563623no leakers got btfo
>>549487137You don't, you make sure your carry wins lane, you go around interrupting and baroness whoever's most important on their team and you win.That is your purpose. You don't carry, you are there to serve. If your team can't make use of what you've given them you simply haven't done enough.I hope this helps
>>549563569the actual model doesn't, but the stupid character select art does
>>549563796>>549563569it's a tuft of hair
>>549563569HERE COMES THE LASH
>ascended 5>need to play meta characters>just want to have fun playing turret mcginnisdang
I wish Doorman started with 4 stamina
>>549564684he should start with 2
new shopkeeper leak
>>549564878unironically true
>>549564878This but fat fuck dynamo
>>549564574yesterday a 3 stack got on my case for daring to play flame dash infernus in ascendant 4 and when i said "stop typing retard" he started typing my location on the map to the enemy team and saying to report me because i said the dreaded ARR SLUR
>>549565015lmao
>>549564919>it's yours my friend
I can't wait for the game to release.That's when new bunch of players will rush in, and the current "pros" will become washed out and get replaced when the true talents come.
>>549565182the opposite will happen, most of the deadlock "pros" have pro backgrounds in other games so while they might not be the best they will still be competitive with new talent and they will just attach themselves at the hip to these players and leech off their stream audiences like vegas and everyone else wanted to do with shroud when he came back to the game
As a Lash main who else should I learn to become decent on
>>549565848pocketholliday
>>549565848viscous
kick nemergix out he's taking too long
>>549485831>>549488969There is no such thing as "actually a child" in regards to a fictional character. Its a video game character, people being protective over pixels is more degenerate than jerking off to them
>>549567107I'm a trans mina player too if that matters
>>549569061>echo shard 3 annoying furry
>>549565182>That's when new bunch of players will rush inAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+1 02C07
>>549565848Abrams charge n melee gibes similar dopamine to lash ground pound
>>549565182it took valorant 6 years for the washed T2 pros to finally get replaced with home grown talentthough by the last year the only CSfags left were IGLs with shit mechanics
This is your enemy team for today.What do you do?
seren wins when he wants to
>>549571910gay sex with lash
>>549571910>3 carriesbully one out of the game and steal junglealso thats a very good counterspell gamehope this helps!
70% of games are lost because a team did not go mid after killing two enemy players, often ignoring the multiple calls to go mid to do their own things
>>549573070didnt hit the comp button, so i dont care
>>549500747No, instead they get twice as much vacation time as normal people despite doing nothing to make millions of dollars off other people's game sales.
>>549485831>>549567402Ok but where are the hyper boob vindicta mods like the fanart pics people post here
>absolutely destroy my lane>have half our team's kills (most player damage too, next highest is 15k behind me, highest obj damage also just for good measure)>have only a tenth of our team's deaths>still lose because teammates are mediocreI can't fucking carry 5 other people, how am I supposed to get to my proper skill level when everyone else is dead weight?
>try really hard to play deadlock as a pve game and exclusively split push>constantly having to roam and gank/secure space because it'd just be retarded not toIt's over
>>549471190why is drifter considered 'good' now
>>549574001Play Seven
>>549573326No amount of you being skilled will ever fix your team having bad macro
>>549574061healer trooper changes + gun buffs
>Doing fine in lane>Teammate decides they just want to BROOOOOOOOOOWL instead of controlling the wave>Now we get ass fucked because they hit 4.8k firstthis patch is so dogshit
>>549573070unironically true
>>549574604I have no idea what healer trooper does. It heals YOU? Not other troopers?I've watched one and a half (1.5) video guides and they mentioned the heal trooper but didn't say anything about its function. They've mentioned a few things but not actually gone into depth.I did learn about the sinner vending machine mechanic where you start charging Q with 3 lights remaining??
>>549574513>trying to siege enemy walker with 2 others>maybe 1 guy defending>enemies missing>holding back, taking nearby camps, don't want to get insta-nuked, ping my intention to retreat>neither of them listen>(")suddenly(") it's a 6v3>dip the fuck out>they both dieRinse and repeat every game. There's also a good chance that, because of my bleeding heart, I'll die in a hopeless attempt to fight, though I'm trying to break this habit.
>>549574948When you kill enemy healer trooper, it drops health packWhen you go near health pack, it heals heroes in an AoE around you for a % of health divided by amount of heroes healed
>>549575147the video said you try to save it for last if you can because you hypothetically have less health remaining at that point?
>>549574948healer guy got reworked recently to heal the team that kills it for a bit of healthprior to this change it would heal teammates around it for a small amount ever few secondsfreak rapist broolers like drifter who just run up in your face and hit you like having the big burst of healing for killing the enemy healer trooper versus playing back and healing off of his own healer
>>549575294Well yeah I guess as a general rule but it's just a common sense thingIf you and your lane partner aren't at full HP and you're not going to waste the healing, you might as well secure it whenever. Unless you're explicitly trying to bait the enemy in then pop it when they thought they might kill you or something, I guess
>>549573326you could try communicating, maybe even play with your team
>>549503398>>549504381Mid should be lowered a bit overall and made into a red I-beam construction site for a skyscraper. Midboss should be situated on top/within whether it be a monster or maybe a posses crane or some shit.
>>549534197her old model was rocking some serious pounds downtown ifyaknowhatimeanfrankly she'd be best if she had the lower half of her original model and the upper half of her currentalso Haze needs a chubby butt too
>>549575940I actually like this, plays to the strength of the game being 3d by having a sky high viewable section that shows if people are trying to take mid or not so retards don't attack mid when 4 to 5 of the enemy is up and it gets stolen regardless
Sticc vindicta >>>> thicc vindicta
>>549576157that was the idea, I think the whole scooby doo section of passages and holes beneath mid sucks. It might need some special consideration for flyers like lash and vin but I wanted something like the original 4lane museum back. a Landmark the whole map revolves around, and the blue lane can easily take place within/beneath it. Not sure how to keep lash from being too strong tho, it would need to be not too tall, or the guardians would need some cover from the sky
>>549506230>river rooftop fightsthat's what bridge buffs are for thoughbeit
>>549576608vinboobta > vindicta
green abrams is funny but the lategame damage fall off isnt worth it
these abrams and billy heroes need to be shot in the face
>>549571956this image is fake I would never build richocet/play afterburn on infernus
this game officially died when they blurred vindicta's feet
I wish to return to before mirage was the most broken hero in the game(again)
>>549493451>7 "paragraphs" for 1 word>btw im kazakstandumb idiot
Hero most deserving of kisses on their stupid little head?
>>549494995go say nigger in front of your boss and get fired and then refuse to apologize on principle and then put the fact you said nigger in every resume you ever use going forwardnow you're doing what you expect him to do to meet your metric of "based"you stupid fucking miku posting phone posting nigger retard
>>549576838I told you to start buying real items, but alas our inhouse MMR has already fallen
>>549578947viscous
Parrying Billy really is just random isn't it? It's just a guessing game with its less than a third a second light melee.>Rebuttal Doesn't change a thing
>>549579481Basically. I fucking hate fighting him. If you don't spend money on rebuttal it's such a shit chance on whether you guess right or wrong and if you guess wrong it's gg because Blasted heals so fucking much. And even if you do buy rebuttal you can easily still get shit luck and lose.
>>549574948It heals everyone, you and any friendly nearby troopers or other heroes. The reason why it benefits Drifter is because the pickup range is relatively short, and Drifter operates at short range. He can happily be hanging around near where the waves clash, kill the healing trooper as needed to keep himself healthy, and enemy heroes have to come close to him to get their own health pickup from his wave, which lets him do his thing.Overall the lane goes a lot better for Drifter than before, though he still has some bad matchups. And when lane goes well, he can roam early for stealing sinners and angling for isolation kills to start his snowball.
I didn't realise how visually cluttered the game was until I started playing Sinclair. It is impossible to tell characters apart when it's an orgy of particle effects, and I copy the wrong character constantly.
>>549578947
>>549580236>kelvin, bebop, vyperretard alert
>>549580236This is exactly what I wanted thanks anon
>>549579481>random>guessing gamethese are mutually exclusive things in a pvp game
>>549580468and other things seekers say.....
>>549580169I didn't know why you were talking to me about drifter until I went 3-4 back in the chain.
>>549579481its not randomchoose one, rock, paper, or scissors right now
>>549580236>>549580468Vyper, definitely not, not even close to being nice enough to deserve it. Rest of them are super sweet.
Why is Billy allowed to be so insanely OP, but Drifter and Victor got slapped HARD with nerfs?
>>549580236Swap Vyper and Victor.
>>549580236>vyper, vindicta, paradox and kelvin that high>lash and billy that lowgringealso semi-unrelated but the only thing calico deserves is bald rubbing and slapping
>geist walks into the middle of a lane with no walker with vision on 0 enemy heroes, gets fucking murdered, and then screeches into the micthis meta has done irreparable damage to the ladder, we will never recover from the players boosted by it
>>549580708I mean it's only 2 replies back but sorry if you weren't the person originally asking about Drifter, I guess.
>>549580841the kisses on her head would make her a nice person
>>549581075>we will never recover from the players boosted by itdo we tell him?
>>549581075Right, but I understand the frustration when the enemy team is never showing on the map, always together, and always keeping lanes neutral and literally doing nothing other than waiting for you to get impatient so they can pick you off and THEN do something. It's incredibly fucking boring and it works so well.
RELEASE ME
If you want to counter Billy just buy counterspell, its not that complicated guys
>>549582442
>>549580709If Billy is within melee range he can light melee you before you can reactYou have to guess
>>549583350so react
I don't know if it's a cold take, but we really should just get rid of light melees.Enemies just get to free light melee you whenever they get close because taking the parry gamble roulette is way too risky, if you parry and they don't light melee, you get hard punished by the follow up heavy melee.Either light melees actually need to be reactable or we should get rid of them imo
>>549583697>>>>>>BEFORE you can REACT
>>549584176Melee needs to be polished in general. light melee is in a weird spot now and some characters don't even have an animation for it if you bind melee to mouse wheel.
>>549582125true, but if you want to make something happen should probably communicate instead of having a meltdown when you do something stupid>>549581808lay it on me, Im ready to believe anything at this point about deadlock
>>549584176you can also just shoot someone when you're that close
Let me parry bullets
Genuine cancer
>>549586204every hero in this game is cancer
is there even an honest hero in this game
>>549586309unironically Abramsif you ever got pinned, you were objectively outplayed.
>>549586380>32 or 64 item guarantees his stun>honestretarded meleeniggers as usual.
>>549586479>Modern Abrams>Melee>Retard can't figure out how to counter spell pinhow does it feel to be hard stuck nu-archon, bro?
>>549576828mina downplayer do you prefer mina, booba, or minass
>>549584176>>549584645What if we had a light parry and heavy parry? You could have a very short parry that has cooldown 30-50% shorter than heavy parry, with heavy parry being the exact same as it currently is, but held
>>549586690>new archonI'm asc 4 and you're a retard. There's 0 latency between doing warpstone or phantom strike charge and the stun is guaranteed along with an extra 800+ damage heavy melee. >Abrams doesn't build melee itemsLift strike spirit snatch phantom strike and crushing fist are still top built items across any rank and you're a retarded nigger if you think otherwise. I don't expect you to concede since you immediately brought up rank as some sort of gotcha but understand you're beneath me in every way.
They should have a more dynamic map.Destructible? Yeah, why not?Map open up / closed according to the time? Yes please.Map open up / closed according to objective? Of course.Map that change randomly, and apply random effects to a certain zone/lane? Fuck yes.
>>549587432This should be added to a 2v2 "Laner" mode
>>549587432>day/night cycle where certain buildings are open during different hours offering different objectiveswould actually be a good way to shake up the jungle
>>549588183>Inside a building>It turned night>You're locked in for 3 minutes until it's day againKino
>>549584938That's where draft comes into play desu. Some heroes are so much better at running from a gank, some are really good at punishing a failed gank, some are really good at splitpushing while you're 'trying to make a play' happen, some drafts clearly have one team possess a much better teamfight than the other or possess pick heroes while the other doesn't. Much to think about!
>>549584238just react, youre over thinking it.
Admit you suck at meleeing and parrying. Move on. Changing anything about these two are low iq takes. as the saying goes, "git gud"
why did they give billy an infinite ammo gimmick when we already have vypersurely the gun steroid part of it was good enough
vindicta and talon should be able to parry and melee while flying
>>549586309Abrams
>>549590847Because Billy is a furfag character and thus allowed to be OP as fuck.
>>549591310then why is vyper ass
>>549591343Scalies are oppressed(rightfully).
>>549589319melee hitboxes need to be way tighter
>>549591463This.
>>549370632>>549370542>I remember there was a rumor with some proof in those initial leaking days that some of the devs were the ones responsible for the leak and "open secret alpha" as a last ditch effort to save the game by gathering interest instead of having it cancelled like the other 10 valve projects they worked in the past.I'd really really really really really like to know what this alleged proof was, and the sources.AlsoI'm still praying they figure something out and they get a portion of the update out, a part 1, or drop it just before christmas.If not, they're probably gonna comeback fresh from christmas and overthink changes and it will certainly be until February, or with scrapped shit.
Also can someone post the leaked pepper image, I haven't seen it.
>>549594651If they do delay it with nothing released I 100% expect the patch in February. I feel like they'd say "Well we're already this far. Let's finish up polishing 6 heroes and do the voting thing again", because apparently Pepper and Silver are still super rough.Early February is when I think the next big patch is.
Game is unplayable again, see you faggots next patch when retard M1 niggers stop being OP and Debuff remover isn't a must buy.
I can't play with this dog shit meta, see you all next year
Just won a 5v6.
>>549594651There is no proof, the reality is that groomer dane leaked it because he was a pissed tf2roonHOWEVER, I do agree with the rumor that Deadlock was in dire straitsThe reception to the leak and subsequent playtest is what convinced Valve that there was something to the game and revitalized internal dev interest in it.more than if they just kept plucking along silently behind closed doors
0K7PGbreaking news inhouse inhouse please breaking news join us!
>>549594780just picture a shitty umamusame character except animated in a western style instead of anime
>>549596891Wait have we seen the model?
>>549596965I guess I meant illustrated not animated
>>549587432I still think the entire mid lane should collapse when mid boss roars
>spend 3200-6400 to attempt to counter one small aspect of a hero>they just buy the equal amount in gun items and melt you anywaysI WILL NOT RUSH A DEBUFF REMOVERI WILL NOT WASTE MY SLOTS ON A SHIELDING SLOPI WILL NOT BUY DOGSHIT 3200 RESIST ITEMSI WILL NOT BUY SLOP ACTIVES THAT WORK FOR 3 SECONDS AND HAVE MINUTE LONG COOLDOWNSI WILL ALL CHAT NIGGER AND LEAVE THE GAME IF BILLY, DRIFTER, OR WRAITH GET FEDp.s. the fact this game does not have a draft after 1+ year of slop is embarrassing
>>5495961508/12 need 4 moar
>>549597281>Buy spirit resistance>still get melted
>>549596965>>549596891>>549594780This is still all we have
>>549597617Though the leaker did say her expression and pose arent the same ingame but everything else is accurateTheres also this but we know valve would never make outright weebshit
>>549596150need 2 more players0K7PG0K7PG0K7PG
>>549597735>>549597617i cant imagine what her skills or playstyle will be
https://steamdb.info/app/3488080/history/6 updates today
>>549599924Oh boy I'm sure the 15 or so fucking you tubers that get to play the real updates will have fun over the holidays!
>>549557101>Our goals in 2025 will be to add new heros!>all of 2025 gave us 6 hero's
>>549597935need more
>>5495999244 you mean.The other two are steam spanning updates.
>>549599924this isnt healthy, you need to stop
>>549596114well if there's no proof, then it's just throwing shit at the wall.They started the test for a reason, then 'oops' it got leaked, but really I don't think there's any reason to think it wasn't planned that people would get in, similar to old DotA being in alpha beta for a whiiiiiiiiilllle.
>>549598615well she's a healslut egirl character so she probably has an ult that heals her whole team to max + cleanses + shields
>>549601668>CleansesI will main her if it means making every bebop player on the planet miserable as fuck
>>549601668I thought she was the rocket launcher hero
>>549601610The game was way too alpha for me to believe that desuEven valve understands that dota 2 had wc3 dota/lol/hon players to draw from
Pull. Back.
>>549584176Light melee is also gambling on the enemy not being a third worlder with an autoparry cheat.
Melee damage should be based on health, not weapon damage
>>549603245I hate autoparry fags more than aimbotters
Evropeans love Evrope until it's time to Deadlock against Ranjesh and Mikalevnack with their freshly purchased haxx
THIS is what paige should've looked like.
>>549584176>>549584645>>549587030I still like that one anon's throw button idea
>>549604176Please masturbate before posting.
>>549588183It sucks that we'll never get this because the game's lore requires it to be right before an eclipse. I've been thinking though that when you get a patron to a weakened state the eclipse should actually start which leads to minions getting a giga buff, giving more of an opportunity for a comeback.
>>549564919He looks like Mr Evrart is helping him find his gun.
Pepper and Silver are gonna get scrapped btwTheyre not gonna survive the holiday breakValve will come back on january and wonder why the fuck they made those heroes
how the fuck are people so accurate
any outhouse?
>>549605347we are all cheating desu
I need a Sinclair ult tier list
>>549605747It's called Infernus queue
>stop having fun exploring items and just embrace stupid one-shot express shot build>green outit's that easy.
when's next inhouse?
>>549607762We're all in the Discord, sister.
>>549603258Viscous is hard enough to kill as it is
Objective should gives players a perk, but not snowballing.
>>549607762Approximately 12 to 18 hours from now.
>>549520920i swear she's flatter
It really flabbergasts me how this game's playerbase can be so meta-captured when it's a closed alphaEvery game is just the same assortment of heroes with maybe one or two missing and replaced with an oddball pick or some not-meta-but-very-popular heroes like Mina or Haze, the matches blend together so easily
>>549610889how the fuck can't you "be meta". It's a statcheck
Infernus is truly miserable to play against.>exist in lane for more than half a second>beamed>take 300+ damage because he has duration extenderthis character is so braindead, why do these devs make M1 carries brainless on hit merchants instead of actually requiring them to aim and go for headshots instead of just proccing their 3 on the body.
>>549610889I see off meta stuff decently enough and some of it is good too. Gun Pocket does a shitload of damage and I recommend people try it out
>>549610889>play off meta pick like Victor>game is over because my character is a joke after 90 nerfs and the recent jungle farming changes>quit victor, play Shiv and brain off for free wins insteadthat's how it works for most people.why struggle on your pick when you can just pick the easier stuff and no spend a good chunk of your play time being a useless trooper waiting to scale.
>a second power spike added at the 9.6k threshold How much seethe would this cause
>>549610889There is 30 heros total and 12 per game, even with 0 meta faggetry there would be a shit ton of sameness
>>549611298>How much seethe would this causewhy are retarded zoomers incapable of thinking about anything other ragebait
>>549611384they can't into interactions so they fall back to the easiest trick in the book
>>549611384>>549611484>replying to yourselfSeems the answer is, a lot
>>549611298what if there was a power spike at the 64k threshold? reward players for committing to one color.
I wish there were 6 active slots instead of 4.
does mirage's bullet evasion dodge melees randomly too?or is he just immune to punches when he's ulting away? the last few times i watched him escape with it my heavy melee just went through him.
>>549612027kill yourself, zoomie.
>>549601668she's the rocket launcher hero thorem is the support bitch
>>549612308A second (you)? How delectable! Don't mind if I do nom nom nom
not a part of this conversation but you have to be 18 to post here r/deadlock is probably more your speed little retard
>Don't mind if I do nom nom nomgrown ass man btw
>>549611384>seething at the mere implicationPerhap maychance you are just clinically short tempered and this was not intended to rage you
>549612772>still reddit spacingvery organic post, bro.
Invisible yous are worth double my newfags
>>549612907this pic always cracks me up
>>549612907KEK
>>549607864wheres the link faggot
>>549610889oracle 2 here and i literally never used any of the builds people made and just rolled with my own buys
>>549612960The discordtrannies like to talk shit about inhouse players who aren't in their epic sekrit discord club so you will have to pull some strings to get an invite
>>549612960discord.gg/4vn9ErPrDJ
>>549605347Bro there is literally no anticheat in this game whatsoever, if you're not fucking around with cheats while valve don't give a shit then you're just a cuck
Back to discord troons--> Circlejerking has exposed you>>549612907>>549612946>>549612950
>>549613167you have my pity, here's another (you) to postpone your suicide
>>549613216Statistically I wont need it Mr. 41% so you can keep it
>>549612306I believe he's bugged still though I haven't played against enough Mirages to checkHe can't be meleed or targeted by abilities while ulting
>>549600189if you want in just be good at the game ,lil bro
>>549612708why doesn't abrams go nom nom nom om nom eating geists pussy
>>549580236Calico and Haze would allow as long as kisser was white
>>549613834>He can't be meleed or targeted by abilities while ultingisn't this still also the case with GT while he's ulting
deadflop trannycock
>>549610983Debuff remover needs to make you immune against more debuffs for like 3 or 4 seconds, it's useless against m1ggers who can just keep putting stickers on you with a click from 100 metres away.
>>549615993this but as a tradeoff it no longer removes abilities like seven's stun or bebop bombs
>>549615929think about that a lot don't you
>>549616351I'll have you know that I haven't posted that in weeks until today.
>>549615993Your unstoppable sir?
>>549616130>>549615993Fucking morons
>>549615993Those effects should have a cooldown per target like silencer
>>549616789I only used it once and it sucked shitass, it didn't do anything and I died to nigfernus dots.
>>549616532>I'll have you know that I haven't sucked dick that in weeks until today.
>got cursed, focus lens'd, and silence waved by a paige as abrams beat the shit out of me as geist with ult upok
Victor gets bent over and knuckle fucked if you buy Inhibitor and Silencer50k and it just does not matter.character literally can't do anything if just one person has those two items.
>>549617395>12k worth of items to fuck you over>likely on their gun carryyeah obviously
>>549615993The game just needs more sources of debuff removal.Also the game needs BKB
>>549617395Inhibitor silencer on infernus is op because its additive with his napalm +35%+25%+20% for an -80% to spirit dmgDeathy showed it but never runs it because its too dishonest
>>549617293lmao good fuck geist and geist players
>>549617559we have BKBit's mid outside of specifically trying to use big channeled ults like dynamo lash while there's a haze with really really good knife aim
>>549617460>Victor sucks dick early game>sucks shit mid game>gets hard countered by one of the 3 gun carries late gameebin character I thinkvery playable right now
>>549617395>buys unstoppable
>>549519627Seven had a 60% winrate for months of this game. And marvel rivals has a ban system anyway unlike deadgamelock
>>549617395>Unstoppable>Debuff Removeryou're most welcome
>play Vindicta>entire enemy team buys ACME anvils*le sigh*
>>549519627Rivals balance is genuinely awful and malicious. Two support characters have been running the game since last patch and instead of nerfing then the devs just giga buffed other supports mainly the literal devs OC waifu who had been controlling meta for the last year. This would be like if infernus had been running the game for the last year, Billy gets added and over takes him so Yoshi gives a whole new ability to infernus to make him better.
>>549617864BKB>Dispels on cast (debuff remover)>Makes you immune to like 99% of debuffs/CC>makes you immune to pure/reflected damage>70% magic resist>Is built from some stat components, meaning you can still gain some meaningful stats while you farm the full itemUnstoppable>20% debuff resist (exact same as debuff reducer)>Active SUPPRESSES (not stops) negative status effects and makes you immune to hard CC>Built from a 1600 item which gives minor stats, leaving a larger 4800 gap and that 1600 item builds into an almost neccesary 3200 item so if you get that you then have to farm the full 6400 with no stats inbetween
>>549620806BKB sounds OP as fuck why do dotards want a brainless "i win fuck you" button i thought their game was super le skillful and complex
>>549620981Because CC and magic are very strong. BKB also has a minute and a half cooldown so there's a lot of skill in choosing the right moment when to pop it. That's not as much of the case in deadlock because it's a 6v6 game with movement and verticality and corners etc so fights are way more hectic, which is why you only see people buy unstoppable on heroes that just don't want their ult interrupted.
>>549620981Because there is a lot of ways to kite bkb durations in dota.blink, force staff, glimmer cape, euls scepter, ghost scepter, aeon disk.Also the other poster was being hyperbolic when he said it blocks 99% of all debuffs and CC. It is most of them but there is many heroes that can still disable through it. Beastmaster, Faceless Void, Enigma, Bane, Winter Wyvern etc. Abyssal blade active bash goes through bkb too
>>549621147>>549620806i think unstoppable could use the very minor buff of removing debuffs when you activate it, but without the debuff remover buffsI like that it's not a mandatory item to win but it's too niche at the same time, doesn't even help against antiheal
>>549617916>unstoppablecongratz on throwing games by making poor itemization choices
alright who do i pick if i like TWITCH/KAISA/ASHE/VAYNE in that orderi like SEXY spaceglider characters so don't recommend the nigga who looks like brand
>>549621564Ivy
>>549621564I'd say Mirage but you are a coomer
>>549621564>i'm a league player and i will only play womencalico :^)
FUCK GUARDIANSFUCK WALKERSAND FUCK BEBOP
>>549520063Maybe they all really were hard at work with Half Life 3?
>>549519687>Additionally, THERE'S NO FUCKING DRAFT SYSTEMThank god.
>>549621834why
>gets absolutely shat on>whines in chat all game about youhow do you respond?
>>549622036"cope and sheath, sweaty"
>>549617889if you dont how know to play a carry then dont play a carry
>>549623189thiscarries get called "elo inflators" but people underestimate the role's difficulty especially when win or loss hinges on your performance
>>549620981Dota 2 players dont actually try and improve, they just wait for the next meta shakeup and hope it makes their character OP
>>549620981Bkb lose duration on use first it's like 8sec next is 6 sec goes down to only 5 sec fucking retard
>>549623705>5 sec>only
>>549623705unstoppable starts at 5s and provides no resists, it's unarguably much weaker
>>5496238355 sec is nothing when blink moves your hero two screens and ghost and glimmer exist.
>>549623705it's 8 fucking seconds at first??? holy fuck
>>549624000trips of CRINGE
>>549624000glimmer cape is just guardian ward, the invis effect doesn't matter in teamfights after bkbs have been picked up because there will be detection to anticipate its use
>>549623297Bot response from bot role
>>549625321Anon, be nice to those with disabilities...
What is the counter to curse? I am sick of Haze just walking up to me and pressing curse + ult and there is nothing I can do about it.
>>549625926turn your headphones up and listen for footsteps then hit unstoppable and run away
>>549620981Deadlock has a button like that, it's Mouse 1.
>>549625926Nothing counters curse, i suppose you could buy a bunch of hp and resist to live until effect wears off tho
>>549626216>>549626073God damn it. I might actually be done with this until next patch. Every game in Oracle has turned in to 40min slog where everyone is afraid to push and later the game is decided by which team has someone capable of making a pick (Haze, Bebop etc) and who has more retarded members on their team. Or decided by which team has Dynamo.
>>549626496>bebop>being on the winning teamnice joke
>>549625926debuff resist so it doesn't last as longplaying with your teammates so you don't get picked off
>>549626496>Or decided by which team has Dynamo.It's usually this, let's be honest.
>>549626606I know anon, but my late experience is that Bebop on my team = loss. Bebop on the opposing team = shitter that lands one good hook at 40mins and wins the game just because of that.
>>549625926Passive defences
>>549626696Never considered that 2bh, stacking debuff resist just gets better and better the more I think about it
he ehe da hunt begins.......
I still don't get how they made last hitting feel so unrewarding compared to dota where it's pure skill and a low rank player would never win against a high rank player because denying and last hitting is a skill you need to learn on every hero, and every hero has different attack animations.
>>549627825You answered you own question, noobs were getting shitcanned and they cried like babies
>>549627593Fuck off Matt Mercer.
>Laning>We get a good trade>Start shoving the wave in so we can harass them under tower>Still need to kill like 3 fucking minions before the wave starts moving into their guardian range>My viper without pings, comms or any indication dash jumps off the bridge into their shop gets fried instantly and then rages at me for not following
>>549625305If it's later in the game the carry will often not have inventory space for detection. So if its the carry trying to pickoff a support they can often get cucked by glimmer.
>>549622027Game's autistic enough as it is.
>>549628221but what if I don't want to face haze or infernus
>>549628268Then the game should be addressing the more pressing issue that there are heroes that are shit to fight against.
>>549628268>but what if I don't want to face haze or infernusYou can simply stop being racist.
>I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!
>>549628063In-character.
>>549627825It's almost like it's a shooter and LOS matters and they realized how annoying it was you needed to last hit to get any souls when you cant see all the minions at all times.People crying they removed/changed some of the dota mechanics are retarded. Just go back.
>>549575998haze's got it good, only vindictas missing it given her new remodel
>Enemy team - Every CC teamfight ult in the game>Your team - Literally nothingwow I wonder who will win!
>>549635230>Le Valve Matchmaking
Why are people acting like Vindicta is a child?
>>549635459SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 17 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS AND 29 DAYS AND 23 HOURS AND 59 MINUTES AND 59 SECONDS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
>>549635407I actually can't tell which team you think has "Every CC teamfight ult in the game" and which one doesn't. You dumb niggers will look for any cope you can to avoid admitting you lost because you suck.
>>549635914You are literally ritualist
>>549635407Without fail whenever one of these is posted its the most balanced team comps imaginable
>>549635459she calls herself one
>>549635407quite winnable for both sides lol
>>549636601>>549636450>>549635914/dlg/ pretending Abrams ult is good lol
>he still buys cultist
>>549636184I'm ascendant 2 and have a 60 percent winrate on Seven even after the nerfs. My rank keeps climbing because I win more than I lose, unlike you.>>549636701No I'm "pretending" Paige ult and Infernus ult counter Blackhole. I am also "pretending" that Billy's ult is bullshit to get away from and while not good on its own, sets up the other three ults.
>>549635407The left side looks like a fucking pro tourney draft what are you bitching about?
>>549636863>even after the nerfs.Oh no nerfed from top 1 for the entire lifespan of this game to merely top 3really struggling
>>549637024whats victor doing here
>>549637101>he fell for the Victor downplay agendalol every time
>>549637101victor is like the champion of deathballing olympics and we are in a hard deathball brool meta
>>549637101Ever notice how every major build stopped using EShift on Victor, but all of the major build creators still buy it early as fuck on Victor in every single match?There's some kind of downplay agenda going on with the influencers in this game and Victor/Seven.
>match start>ping lash very obviously standing on the crane >he stays there the entire time>we just shoot the minions from veilside or on the bridge>he hits one slam the entire laning phasekek
>>549637024Do you have a 60 percent winrate with him?
>>549636701if he isn't caught in black hole dynamo won't be able to ult past 25 mins
>>549637537You still haven't even posted any proof of your own stats nigga go LARP elsewhere
wraith is the best broolershe goes in uses free curse on someone and they dieshe runs back into jungle to continue farming for 50 seconds until she gets it back to instantly delete someone in the permabrool again
>>549637143i'm asking seriously, he feels strong when i'm playing him but reasonable when i'm vs. him (unless he's 10-15k up) so i assumed eternus chuds just owned his ass>>549637402fair enough>>549637489anyone using popular builds is likely sub oracle
>Bro you can't just rush your core build items every game you have to counter build!!!!>Counter build>It does fucking nothing because the effect of the item is either totally negligible or they just remove its effect with debuff removerebin
Its so hard to watch other people play my main. My backseating is overwhelming
>>549638401>>549638401>>549638401>>549638401
>>549635459vindicta says she died when she was a child, but they also ignore she calls everyone a child now that shes 12 million years old
