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Reminder that WINRATES DON'T MATTER>WINRATES DON'T MATTERWINRATES DON'T MATTER>WINRATES DON'T MATTERMay we have a thread with good balance discussion now.
>what if we like, made wraith pact again but with even less counterplaywhat was icefrog thinking
Literally what's the point of suppressor and mystic slow
>>549638602>a character who wins a lot isn't goodAre you retarded. I wonder why whrn Paige had a 56% winrate people here couldn't stop seething about it then.
>>549637614Sorry I was wrong, it's 59 percent right now. It's higher if you only count my recent games though and not the ones back when I was new. What now, you call it fake?
>>549638401>another autism editionStop letting this retard make threads
One of these days I'm going to actually have to start using mic because I can't carry without giving these morons instructions on how to breathe.
>Two good games the team skill was balanced >Won both of them>Queue again>5 second queue>Next games had double digit feeders I feel like a schizo but isn't this just some forced loss faggotry at this point?
>>549639349You need to learn the skill of passively making retards think your ideas are theirs. "Does anyone think maybe we should do mid? I'm not sure." You are sure though, you're very sure.
>Buy Capacitor to shut down hyper mobile characters>Can't land it because they're hyper mobile
>>549639403yes, just not in the way people usually talk about forced 50, this literally is just you getting matched with random ass initiates and unranked people because the pool during a weekday at this time is that small
>>549639604I normally don't talk at all because I expect my team to play at about my skill level, but it turns out that's sort of a fallacy due to matchmaking
>>549639659If you aren't an ambush character like Haze yeah it will be hard to land without set up. You can set yourself up with slowing hex but that's a lot to buy to shut someone down and often the hex alone might just be enough. Capacitor is kinda shit now unless you are Haze building Tesla to farm basically.
>>549639349DON'T SAY>Infernus back up you fucking retard before you get gankedDO SAY>Hey Infernus, be careful I think they're rotating for you
>>549638602Its called context my retard. Winrates do matter they just need context to prove a point. For example if someone said mina winrate bad we should buff her, you can contextualize this further by showing her winrate on specific players, which is not bad. This leads to more nuanced discussion of the actual problem(most players cant play mina)Winrates still include all the data of the match and thus are the most predictive metric for deciding future wins. A win is an aggregate stat that includes all the dmg, kills, deaths, healing, etc. Including the unmeasurables. Balancing should be done by winrates because of this higher predictive capability that is inherent to them. This means they will more accurately shape future games then some crackpot new formula THAT IS PROVABLY WORSE(looking at you faceit)
>>549639785I play Gun Ivy and buying Tesla just to sell it feels kinda shit that's why I usually upgrade it instead
>>549639780The other issue I have found is some people are really good at playing a character. Like they might be a Haze with cracked aim that knows she can win any 1v1 and racks up a bunch of kills and farm in the midgame doing it. That player can get to a decently high rank like that while knowing 0 about the macro-strategy. There are these players that are skilled at their specific character or characters they play but that just don't get where they should be and why. If they are in the right place though, they play well.
>>549639931haven't ran the numbers on it yet but considering how gun Ivy always feels awful damage wise before buying some shit like crippling headshot i can imagine just replacing tesla for heroic aura or something like that
>>549640225I don't start building damage until like 30k
why is mina so perfect?
>>549638401Can we not do OP autism already
>>549641202some unfunny trannies think it's "obligatory" for generals to have shit like a discord, ritualposts, schizos and OPshitters so they insist on forcing it
Is monster rounds....bait?
>>549642047yesBecause you will waste 800 and then your lanemate will broooooowl while ignoring creeps and you will still have no control over the wave
>>549642047if you are gay and retarded maybe
>>549642047No? Are you retarded?>Lets you tank waves/jungle better>Deals more damage to push waves harder when you need it early game>A bit of ooc regen tooIt's like one of the best value tier 1s you can buy and it's good on all characters.
>>549642249Its not that I thinks its bad perse but more niche then universal. The bonus dmg is only on m1 and the dmg reduction is only valid on tower dives. I see tons of backline spirit nukers get it and it just seems like a total mistake for them
>>549642916>The bonus dmg is only on m1Everyone uses M1 and in the laning phase of the game, you're going to be using M1 more than abilities.
>>549638401this game fucking sucks
>>549644038you fucking sucks
>>549642916monster rounds helps a shitton with shoving lane if you need to defend hard pushes against idk miku or ivy
>>549642916well on spirit backliners specifically is mediocre but it'a not lile bait-tier terribleit's best on gun heroes (self explanatory why) and close range spirit heroes because it helps them face-tank while diving guardians/walkers way more easily and it's the mast soul efficient gun item for damage against buildings too so you can also take pbjectives faster
There needs to be a better way to visualize Dynamo's ult range after he buys 500 expansion shit items
>>549642047its 800 that you can sell later so its only ever 400 if you only need it for lane/farming
no update in december, I won't play. It's that simple
Got matched with fucking mongoloids. All they did was teamfight while Warden splitpushed. And they have Shiv and Mo&Krill, it's not like I could have done splitpushed as Lash with that comp.
>>549639403I just realized, don't games like Pokemon Unite and League let you see who your potential team is before you actually accept a match? Deadlock needs this desperately.
>>549648108in unite you get put into a lobby and both teams have 1 minute to pick their pokemonyou cam see what your team and your opponents are pickingthere's a limit of only up to 1 of each pokemon (i.e. no duplicates) so you have to pick yours fast but besides that it works well enoughi haven't played any ASSFAGGOTs besides unite and deadlock tho can't comment on the others
>>549648008why didn't you teamfight and just win?
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>549648576dota has a tiered pick system,2 blind picks, both teams pick at the same time with only their teammates seeing who they pick, and a timelimit if they dont pick by everyone on their team loses starting gold per second. If the same hero is picked by both teams its banned which is actually pretty nice. then another 2 people pick, then one guy picks You also get random bans at the start based on your banned hero list.
>>549648008i keep seeing billy's in screen shots and my games both who have more deaths than killshowyou are playing the most broken character in the gamehow are you dying so much
>>549648008>Got matched with fucking mongoloidswell you're at the mongoloid rank, maybe that's why
Why is Billy allowed to be so insanely broken??
>>549649575Its actually very easy, he's a front line character, if people don't join you then you'll just get 1 v 3'd. Even in high elo people will play like pussies and refuse to grow a pair.Also he's comically easy to int in lane with, one bad parry and you're fucked. In that sense he's very sink or swim. Doesn't help he gets counterbuilt by a single 800 item so if you have a braincell he's fucked.
Im here again to shill kinetic dash on dynamo
>>549649515Fuck that sounds so much better than just getting thrown into matches randomly
"Now what I'd love to see is a networth swing.Wipe the soul gap clean. The no ganks, the sinner's rooms, the 12-3 Warden, put it all behind us. ""Your lane lead whatever happened there-""Alright then!""Whatever happened there?""-The deathball""Whatever happened there?!""-God rest its soul""I'll tell you what fucking happened, this piece of shit's enemy blue put six thousand afterburn on my support without any missing call whatsoever!""My walker's dead""Fuck you""Hey we were walking urn here I didn't mea-""Fuck what you meant camp stealer!""Come on.""Jesus Christ, Doorman, why the fuck would you possibly bring that up"
>>549649693Let's be real. All ranks below Ascendant seem to be mongoloid ranks. Not sure if even Asc is safe.
>>549641202>>549641505>nothing there about discord ritual posting or anything>cryinglol
>>549650586oracle cope wrote this
>>549650765lumped them all in the same designation because they are shit from the same asshole
>>549650586I agree that ascendant is a mongoloid rank now
>>549649693This time was extra bad. The enemy team's first walker died at 20 minutes, and we never took their blue walker.
>>549639153nigga talkin I'm ascendant too, I have a 64% winrate on my main, big fucking whoop you want a medal? Now shut up and stop being annoying corny lil' niggas, both of you.
How the fuck do you counter Seven?
>>549652089>ult sevenknockdown>gun sevensame way you deal with any m1igger carrya simple 3200 soul item called disarming hex
They're delaying the update so they can polish the SA minigame featuring Paige and VyperTrust the plan
>>549652179What about ball/surge seven?
>>549652365just shoot him
>>549652207>SAyou can say rape in here
I dont play seven but I think it would be cool if he had a got a self buff for standing inside of his ball
>In light of recent losses. It's an honour to be joined by carries. And not faggot ass 0 damage supports which fed my lane. HE SHOULD FUCKING UNINSTALL!
>>549651826Bro literally asked me for proof. I'm sick of faggots crying that its impossible to climb in rank because of this and that. I'm glad it shut him up.
>>549652483But he kills me nearly instantly...
>>549652365curse will turn off his 3. as for his ball just buy spirit armor and if he has EE then just make sure you have like debuff remover/high debuff resist.
6 weeks minimum until update....
>>549654347I still think its possible we get it around the 12th of jan, any longer would be retarded even if you assume it takes a bit of time to get the mojo back from post holiday celebrations.
Τhe black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.Τhese are TWO different characters.
Player base getting thin isn't it? I keep getting placed to two ranks lower matches now. Unless my losing streak caught up to me and I have fully downranked now.
>>549639349start doing it. Sometimes you'll get some faggot chirping you for talking and making calls but more often than not you'll be the reason you win games. I HATE that 1/3 of me playing this game is literally playing it like LoL or Dota staring at the minimap giving people direction (you, clear these lanes, be careful in that lane we don't see them, buffs are up go grab it, mid boss, we see 5 here, push that walker on other side) but I'd lose even more if I didn't do this.
>>549642047Yeah. Oooh you take 3 less bullets to kill a trooper. Meanwhile the enemy is stomping you with their PvP items.
how tf are you supposed to hit anyone with the shitty ass revolver guns in this game
Where's the December megapatch, Boshi? You said there would be patch!
>>549655135Besides it being a shitpost, I don't understand how this is even meant to be taken in a genuine context. Haze is like a weird smoke creature, not African American, and Calico is black sure. It's very obvious they are, in fact, two different characters lol.But no deadlock thread would be complete without this post. God bless it
>Climb as one character>Literally can't ever play anyone else because matchmaking is fucking terrible and gets even worse if you ever try something newebin
Is Gunman dead? I find spirit Doorman boring and like fucking with people with his portals.
>>549655157I think it spiked again honestly, I see dota only heads playing it recently but I have no data to back that up. Zoomies honestly love this game for some reason.
>>549658426no, he's still retarded
>climbing>in this absolutely fucked systemgegeroni
>ball seven*clears enemy jungle and runs down lanes*what u gonna do about it
Are Seven and Dynamo Liches?
Lady Geist feels extraordinarily difficult to play
>>549656871by not being a shitter, I assume
>>549659208Dynamo is, Seven is just your garden variety undead.
>>549656871lead your shots slightly to account for bullet velocity
>>549639153>500 games>still asc 2so you're just hardstuck
>>549662607imagine being this bored
>>549655157Most players left when they realized that Valve is going to be using AI to ban possible cheaters. No modern competitive game can exist in 2025 without a functional anti-cheat and we're never getting one.It's super sad to see but the people who make this game are AI brained.
>>549662868Just have a bot insta ban any haze/vindicta player that has a sus amount of headshots. Done, easy.These niggas only play two characters its so obvious, you never see cheaters play Lash
>>549658781>be phantom>regularly matched with alchemist playersthese people are actual dogshit and that's coming from a phantom player
feels good not just playing one character like a weirdo and enjoy what other characters this game has
>>549662868what is this brand of retard pretending that writing in a imageboard is like sending letters to a valve senator? is this just a shillbot powered by a LLM attempting to dissuade icefrog while several million layers separated from actually reaching his ears?
>>549659127I will play surge and enjoy my higher winrate
>>549661005Based on Seven and Dynamo's conversation: they're both liches.Dynamo is an archdemilich (good aligned demilich) that accidentally transformed, and Seven is a classic lich that did it on purpose to survive his execution.
Is there a bigger shitter red flag than purchasing +range? Lol just dont miss? Its always some retard with a 10m wide spell at base too
>>549664113this is what they refer to as a self explode
>>549664113i wrote this beucase i'm seething after getting hit by an ability that shouldn't have hit me but they got extra range so it did btw
>>549664113>dude just hit both the people 15 meters apart with a 10m spell
I was thinking of getting into the game for the first time since it looks a little more "done" than when I first got an invite. I saw there was supposed to be a Christmas looking patch but it got pushed back. Should I wait to play the game once the patch comes? Idk how impactful changes are patch to patch in this game because of its current state
>>549662607NTA but i know people with way more games while being lower than oracleGames dont matter if you just suckAlso what's your rank and how many games do you have
>>549664435its just a shitpost dude, ascendant is a literal fucking quagmire, Im watching actual e6 decayed players get stuck here for weeks because the win rate you need to climb back to eternus is insane
>>549664385the next patch is supposed to be the big one. Still though, the stuff that will change in it likely wont invalidate any beginner skills you could pick up by playing now.
>>549664338If they are 15m apart you ain't hitting them with shit anyways because of the diminishing returns on stacking range
>>549664628IC i didn't actually follow the convo ;)Also i just got into asc 2 is it that bad to climb???
>>549664385Honestly? you're probably better off doing something else. by the time the next update comes along (jan) you will be placed by similar new people and won't be getting anally raped.
>running for my life from dynamo and geist>double jump one of dynamo's stomps>turn around to see where i'm going>get stomped>move around a corner>get stomped because it goes around a corner now>almost to my walker>get stomped>walk around the truck to los since i'm almost home free>stomp goes over truck and kills meDELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE
>want to shut my brain off and carry>retarded team running into enemy jungle and getting ganked one by one>diving walkers with no one on the map>continuously feeding enemy carry>building no resists despite being down>while simultaneously acting like they're the smartest guy in the lobbywhy are people like this1/5 games i get a decent team
>pros finally start running headhunter on dynamo>they cut heal boosterJfc im beginning to think these guys are idiots
>>549664676>stacking>in reality youre just seething about greater expansion>>549664781by the time youre in the upper half of ascendant you easily need a consistent 60+% win rate to keep going, and the worst part is every time someone drops this game it requires that much more because ranks are position based relative to how many people are still playing, and someone above you only needs to maintain a 50% wr to keep their mmr above yours
The white woman of Valveoriginality.These are TWO identicalcharacters.
Dynamo stomps you from another continent and takes a fourth of your health no one bats an eyeDoorman's bell is a little strong everyone loses their minds
>>549665027Greater expansion is +35% bucko, a hair shy of +50%. So yes you will be stacking
>>549665181I wont do shit and dont call me bucko
How about that prick's face when he saw the hook?
NEED 2 MORE FOR INHOUSE CODE:N16G3RN16G3RN16G3RN16G3R
>>549665118Stomp build is bait is why. Hybridamo is the play
>>549665113Calico still looks like a niggress here...
>>549665426Are you blind she's literally white?
>I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!>proceeds to cause constant seethe everywherewhy is he so powerful?
Nerf this nigger bitch Wraith already
>>549665361custom match codes are only 5 characters retard
>>549665636but thats what victor says
>>549665628Yeah, but look at that face shape...
>>549665742anon don't be racist...
NEED 2 MORE FOR INHOUSENEW CODE:N0NC3N0NC3N0NC3
>>549665843Kill yourself code:TR4NNY
>>549665881you're right i'm gonna go kill myself nowpretend i wrote I CAN'T FAILLLL instead
>>549665995On my way
Pull.Back.
Patches like this are why this game will never be successful>B-but it's an alphait will never be successful. It will never surpass its current peak player count
>>549666224Here's that (you) you're desperate for
>>549666218Paige would never tell me to pull out
I'm starting a conspiracy that every playercount shitposter on /vg/ is the same handful of guys or maybe a small bot netWhat should I call them?
They got the G.O.A.T.!
>>549666224it's going to skyrocket to 80k in January when they release another 6 fanart bait characters and street brool for the casual who draw them
>>549663761I disagree, Seven is merely reanimated through magic, while Dynamo has his soul contained within a vessel, which is the defining trait of a lich.
>billy standing in tower agro for literally 2 min
would it be possible to get an invoker type character
stamina mastery on victor?
>>549669204no, he gets more than enough speed with enduring, fleetfoot, and radiant
>>549668960Probably to some extent but not nearly as complex since Deadlock leaves far fewer fingers available in play.In dota you can press any number of buttons while still moving, in Deadlock you have to press buttons to move, severely limiting in-combat options.
>>549668960I'd expect to see something more like Kez where you swap kits rather than invoker.
>>549668640Dynamo explicitly asks Seven how he kept his soul from being obliterated and retained it. It's in his helmet BTW. Seven is a lich.
>>549669204Stam mastery on everyone, But seriously, no, vic is slot stated and there is about 12 luxurys higher prio then stam
-50% damage on all m1igger heroes patch now
>>549669367>he doesnt deadlock with footpedalsNgmi
>>549668960They'll probably add a situationally 5th, maybe 6th ability bind at some point. That being said it's definitely possible now. All you would need to do is have ult button be a toggle for your first 3 abilities, between elements to load up combos to create spells, and then the actual created spells.
>>549669204no
>>549669827>nice hacks>IM PLAYING WITH A WHEEL
>>549670318WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>>549670273I think they could leave the ult open and just make the m2 the toggle
>>549670273I'm surprised they haven't made a troll warlord expy yet. Having 2 drastically different guns would be an obvious slam dunk gimmick I would think.
>>549671212i want ogre magigimmie a slot machine on if my abilities do things or noti need the dopamine of getting a x4 and obliterating someone's asshole
>>549671323yeah ogre would be hysterical too doubly so if they also carry over item multicast
>>549671212Holliday started out like that but they ditched itvenator has his crossbow ult coming soon, which swaps his gun and has weapon scaling
>>549671456>x4 disarming hex>24 second disarmYOU DON'T GET TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME ASSHOLE
>play during the day >team is full of russians>one on the enemy team rage quits>one on ours quits too>go to help drifter because his lane partner left >"fuck out my lane why you here cyka">despite it being 5v5 our Drifter and Victor are SCREAMING at each other all game for "taking farm">"LEAVE MY LANE BLYAT GIVE ME SOLO NIGGER BLYAT">"I AM VICTOOR I NEED FARM" (goes 0/9)What's wrong with these fuck heads?
>>549671990welcome to what Dotafags have been dealing with for decades.Even in USEast
inhouse when?
>be me>entire server is full of evil orc RUZZIAN assholes!!!>all of them are running around saying mean words and aimbotting>say politely, "Uhm we should do mid boss.">they say "SOOKA SOOKA BLYAT" (just like in the game Stalker Call of Pripyat)>I say, "Please. Please." in tears>they scream "Fuck yur mother I feed" and then all five of my teammates buy majestic leap and perfectly leap in sync into the enemy spawn and go AFKThis is why we need to send another 40billion to Ukraine
>>549651826>tfw it's your turn for your state mandated lane loss with SereneNo one should have to suffer like this
>>549671212VIndicta exists
>>549665636Because Yoshi fatfingered the range parameter.
>>549672532
>>549672639Infernus bros...
>>549672639If I saw Leviathan's team in a pub game I would disconnect on the spot.
>>549672805People didnt believe me when I said he was f-teir unplayable
so when are they gonna learn the old inventory system was better
yamato is such an useless piece of shit hero why do they insist on picking her
>>549673373you really should not overplay your hand you boosted little gremlin, shut the fuck up
idea: Lighting Scroll but you imbue it to a non-ult ability BUT it doubles the base cooldown as a tradeoff
Spirit Ivy is best Ivy. Flying in kudzu into vortex into my fat ass slamming them is the best.
>>549674417>play geist >put it on dagger>get a ranged stun every 6 seconds
>>549674417>>549674639>mcginnis turrets>djinn's mark>suffering aura>wraith cardsgreat idea
STOP BUILDING GUN MIRAGE. ITS NOT GOOD. IT HASN'T BEEN GOOD IN 6 MONTHS. HE HAS BOT 3 GUN DPS. YOU DONT EVEN USE SCARABS FOR THE SHRED. STOP
>>549674942>puts it on aura of suffering>double cd doesn’t even matter you’re just raped with no movespeed
>>549674973What do you consider gun mirage? You still want fire rate and ricochet on him as core items.
>>549674973yes please listen to this retard, if I have to play against another ricochet inhibitor silencer toxic bullets mirage I will rope
>>549675153>you still want firerateFalse as the djnn is not affected by firerate but cdr>ricochetOverrated, only playable rn because of brool meta. Reverb is just better
why doesn't anyone buy counterspell?
>>549675467Yes im sure farming three 6ks with no components is the optimal strategy
>pick wraith>win
>be seven>be fed as shit, nearly 15k up on the second highest>take 2 walkers, one completely by myself the other everyone died and I finished it off from a third hp>keep our lanes pushed with my movespeed + wave clear and defend walkers where I can>get told i'm useless and not doing shit even though i'm farmed because i'm not always in the BROOOOOOOOOOOOOLfuck you we grouped, won a teamfight, got mid, and won the gamei am always regulated lane janny and nobody FUCKING pays any attention to the good you do from it and it makes me mad
>>549676389might be the least skilled character in any game Ive ever played
>>549675632>the djnn is not affected by firerate but cdrit would be cool if the tooltip for the ability explained this at all
>>549674973What are scarabs even good for?
>>549676460Nah, that's Warden.
>>549676661early game healing
>>549676661what is siphon bullets good for?
>>549674973
>>549676661Wave clear, killing creep thats been health stolen is as good as dealing damage. Lvl 1 if you hit all 4 creep is = to 180dmg. Plus it shreds them for even more dmg>>549676724Doesn't heal>>549676808Siphon bullets is op but slots is tight
>>549677240>Siphon bullets is op but slots is tightI know that, but I want to hear anon's fantastic reasoning to why a better siphon bullet that doesn't take a slot is bad.
Capacitor CalicoJust think about it...
https://youtu.be/L52b_Th8n6Y?t=810Holy fuck is abrams really this much of a noob stomper? I was in disbelief watching how some of these guys play. Even this "pro" Overwatch player can barely read his own abilities. Don't think he got parried even once, what rank is this?
>>549678669her firerate is too low for it to be good
>>549676389>Pick Wraith>Imagine her bullying me that I suck with her>If I win she'll let me worship her feet.>Jerk off>Take a nap>Wake up and load into another Wraith game
>>549662607>60% winrate on 500 games >game still keeps him asa lower rankjust shit mm
>>549678737>tries deadlock for the first timeprobably first time gamers who skipped the tutorial
>>549677174He lost btw
>>549679761Yeah but I'll trust him and basically every other high level player over your advice.
>if you dont how know to play a carry then dont play a carryit's ALWAYS low elo tards typing shit like thisif you're under Ascendant 6, you should be banned from this general.
>under ascendant 6 lol hardstuck ascendant 6 detectedyou're not part of the eternus club lil gup
is seven considered a hyper carry with ball buildi know everyone is shit including me in my elo but he shits damage in plastic elo
>>549680204He's trash as a lategame hypercarry. teamfighting with the ball build in the midgame is the way to play him right now. Every other carry outscales him.
>>549679058an absolute fucking cuck even in your fantasies
>>549680204>is seven considered a hyper carry with ball buildno and if you bring that shit into my games I will spend the entire 25 minute 5v6 because you went that useless build flaming you in voice chat.use power surge, moron.
>>549680057who are you quoting
>>549680057who are you talking to?
>>549680527what's the difference between ball and surge, just more gun damage?
>>549680673>>549680674your 4 dead mothers
>>549680204as long as you invest into surge, he can be a hypercarryHe is just subpar to the other heroes in the role, and the only thing I can think that he can do better is pop an infuser unstoppable ult to survive a 1v6 surprise gank for 6s w a 135 sec cd
a lot of people forget that when there's such huge skill disparities between ranks there's also different metas. the most retarded seven build in the world can work in arcanist because its basically a bot match where you're allowed to experiment. the same can not be said of the higher ranks, people start to somewhat resemble humans from archon upwards. not notably, but it's a very stark difference for arcanists and below
>>549680781meds
>>549680781
>>549678781You're getting it for the active.
>>549680841>archonold archon, maybe. Nu-archon, absolutely not.
They should make it so if they get 3 rejuvs and are 30k+ ahead the match just ends, since that's clearly how the game is designed to work right now.
>friend gets on alt account and just chain feeds when I play with him on my main>he has single handedly dropped my account 3 divs by queueing with him and trying to support himholy fucking shit
>>549681237hes fucking based for that
>>549681237sit down support e-kitten
surrender option when
>Metro is a typical EU faggot>Deathy is cool but peak reddit with a facebook-tier chat>Xera is also reddit>Crayon is peak gen alpha>Lomeine is peak gen alphaWho do I watch that isn't a faggot but also isn't like 19yrs old?
>>549682139>Who do I watch that isn't a faggot but also isn't like 19yrs old?any of the russians
>>549682139watch?
>>549681523If there's a surrender option it should only be available after the 30 min mark and with a soul difference greater than 40k or something.
>>549682139wander is our certified gamer dad
>>549682223>watching good players play is bad xdddThis argument hasn't been good a decade ago when it was first made and it isn't good now.
>>549682139wander
>>549682248ok with this, the comeback mechanics are nothing more than fluff
>bebop, holliday, geist, and yamato>no one buys counterspell or debuff removerso this is the power of EU pros...
>>549682304If you just want to watch good players you can watch replays or one of the many game uploader youtube channels, you're specifically choosing to watch the personalities instead and then complaining about those personalities.
>>549682304there are 100s of players you can view NOT on twitch. hell you can watch pro games in-game without learning about peoples names, family, or fucking life. jesus christ
>>549682139I unironically only watch super when he plays deadlockat least the tranny jannies dont get mad when you keep calling him ass at the game
>>549682516>without learning about peoples names, family, or fucking lifeyou sound autistic
>>549682892there are people keeping themselves up to date with other people's lives and im autistic? go scroll tiktok video for 4 hours.
>>549638401ok i am playing on a smurf and it feels fucked up, these low ranks are genuinely clueless and i fear i am actively hurting new player experience (am archon)
>>549683056keep making up straw men in your head
>>549682139Ster when he plays it once in a bloodmoon
>>549683220kind of are, like i don't think newbies even know what a parry key is
>>549683220When people say every rank is the same level of bad they are full of shit and you don't truly understand it until you actually play in those ranks
>>549666830Yeah, because she'd never fuck you and you'd never be able to rape her
>>549680057Oracle is high elo>>549680698surge is for tryhard no fun allowed assholes, ball/ult/stun for fun havers
>>549682139supertf, who is a heterosexual twink
>random parry as soon as i was going to melee hit them*le sigh*
Nobody expects punch Vindicta.
>>549685153if serenethers run this next inhouse, I’m rapequitting bigly. It seems OP
>random parry
>>549683435i had one guy try and parry and fail, i am trying to only play heroes i am bad at but it is still a slaughteractually playing sinclair right now and im so ass that im basically initiate
>>549681485I played gun ivy thoughbeit, he's just a whiny faggot when he "has to lane with another gun character"
>>549685153punch vindicta can legitimately delete people in seconds and she has the scariest melee rps because she can snipe people that mistime parry
>>549683538>Oracle is high elo
oracle on eu is better than ascendant on na thoughbeit
with people suing over ranks so hard i gotta ask, what is the defining feature of each ranklike if you start at initiate and go up, what changes with each rank-up
People weren't kidding about playing with friends being rough in this game, my friends aren't really trying super hard to coordinate or win our games we just shoot the shit and have fun in VC the whole time but playing vs other stacks in the stack queue it is pretty clear most of them are at least communicating actively
>>549686272people know how the game worksunironicallypeople in Oracle literally do not know how to play the gamethey'll kill 3, all be full HP and just reset instead of pushing objectives/mid bossthey'll go shit like punch Shiv or Ball Seventhey won't ever push objectives unless someone frontlines for themthey'll never splitpush to counter deathball etc etc.
>>549686232>oracle
>>549686526what rank do people stop letting walkers die to creep waves at
>>549686272initiate players will buy items twice in a 40 minute game and won't notice that they're being shot at unless it's from the front
>>549686797not phantom that's for damn suret. Full-time lane janny
>>549686526Oracle is a mix of people who know how to play and who have no mech skill or vice versa
whenever someone says "X on EU > Ascendant on NA" does anyone else assume its just an eu player posturing that he would totally-definitely-be-eternus-on-NA and is actually just coping about his low ranki opened the official deadlock discord this morning to look for movement stuff since i never truly delved into movement routing on the new map since returning to the gameand i saw 2 fags rank egoing eachother and one of them was an eu archon 6 player saying that archon on eu is like being ascendant 6 in na
>>549686876The vassal states just can't keep us out of their heads. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
this game has two ranksascendant 3+ and everybody elsethere is LITERALLY no difference because the playerbase is so small atm. the matchmaking algo seems to favour speed over quality so people from alchemist to archon are being placed in the same games with each other.
>>549686778For NA it's Ascendant. I saw it all the time in phantom but when I got past that rank there usually is 1-2 lane jannys at all times who know how to farm and rotate fast enough to each lane.
>>549686526I do all those things right and am initiate.
>>549686876i'm phantom 6 in NA and I queue with a friend who's phantom 6 in EU and it's exactly the same but with russians on mic screaming instead of zoomers on mic being faggots
>>549686876>" does anyone else assumeit's the most obvious thing on the planet.it's some EU shitlow coping about his rank.EU players are subhuman
okay after playing sinclair i agree he needs a rework he is so hard to fucking play and landing the bolt is like impossible
>>549687259and other things seekers believe
>>549687050>For NA it's Ascendant.>mfw im ritualist 3sigh... back to the lane janny cuck cage i go...i actually don't mind being lane janny but sometimes there'll be waves pushing on both side lanes and i cant clear them both at once
>>549687259LOL
>>549686778Never. Low ranks do it on accident, high ranks do it maliciously
>>549687071>I do all those things right and am initiate.>>549687259the sinclairpill is to not actually throw it in the air and have it crash down, too much counterplay and reaction time, you throw it parallel to your opponent and redirect last second into them/around the corner.
Why arent there any doormen in the top 100
>>549687537Too busy holding the door open for everyone else to get in first
>>549687537it's a hard knock life for doormen
>>549687618
>>549687537>why does (support that can't take over a game even if 20k souls ahead and is super reliant on his team) not have any people in the top 100I wonder whythe walker stomp range nerfs really hurt his solo killing protentional if you're spirit and gun doorman just feels like shit after all the gun nerfs.he also can't split very well due to his poor gun DPS and if you spend your bells on walker you have literally nothing to defend yourself with if someone comes for you.
>>549686526I play bad builds in E1 queue because I like variety and exploring builds and not being a faggot who is hyper fixated on winning every matchYou can say these things about every rank, the truth is that you can play an Oracle game and your team will kill 3 and immediately gun for objectives, steal jungle, push lanes and the next Oracle game you can kill 3 and they'll all fuck off back into /your/ jungleIt happens in Eternus occasionally as well as every other rank. It's more like, the odds of "team do bad thing" happening gets lower the higher rank you are, but the odds are never zero. You cannot generalize an entire rank with "Yeah these people ALWAYS/NEVER do that" and arguably there will be ranks where smurfs are more prevalent (Phantom/Ascendant) where you can't even trust the data because you don't know how many faggots are just trolling because they're on their 4th account
>>549687795>are just trolling because they're on their 4th accountimo this is THE biggest problem this game has>heh, I don't give a shit. i'm gonna spend the entire game afk shooting the spawning souls in spawn and saying Nigger in voice chat because I died at minute 2 because I got parriedand don't even get me fucking STARTED on the new account rank boosting.you can have oracle pigs in Ascendant 6 games because they won 10 games in shitlow but still got account rank for it.this game HAS TO get rid of altsthey NEED to be gone
>>549686232theres a lot of layers to the delusion of this post, its fantastic
>>549687772>THERE'S A DOOR IN MIDBOSS PIT>I'M OPENING A DOOR SO WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE LAST WALKER>I'M OPENING THE DOOR>GO THROUGH THE DOOR>GO THROUGH THE FUCKING DOOR>two of my teammates walk past the door and take 20 seconds to join the rest of us
>>549687259its pretty easy to land if you don't go for fuckoff large arcs, all you need to do is aim the bolt vaguely in the direction of someone, so that the rebound doesn't need to go far to actually hit
>>549687537unironically because no good players play him, its like asking why sinclair isnt top 100 when the frontrunners are raigeki and leviathan
High Elo doesn't start until Eternus 4
>>549688328>"I'M OPENING A DOOR FOR US TO ESCAPE GO THROUGH THE DOOR">Teammate's eyes gloss over the door and walks past it>Close it before enemies jump through it and get me too because he took too fucking long>"WTF DUDE WHY'D YOU CLOSE"I'm tired of itI'm tiredTIRED
if you smurf in an alpha game you deserve to be publicly castrated
>>549688328I have a DUO IN VOICE CHAT that I play doorman with and even HE slides past my doors so often that I just insta close them now when I run through themthere needs to be a "YOUR DOORMAN PUT UP A DOOR, WALK THROUGH IT RETARD" blaring noise
>>549687259sinclair should be reworked because his only gimmick is nuking you with boltit's bullshit on the receiving end and having a a one trick character is poor design
>>549688828reworked assistant is good, and bunny builds have been viable longer than nuke buildsthey should change his gun though
>>549689050>reworked assistant is goodit's fundamentally broken and needs to have it's duration to teleport cut in half.
>>549688828His bolt is probably his worst ability rn>grey talon arrow but it's slow as fuck and has shit scalingIt's definitely his 2,3 and 4 that's the only better part of his identity in his current state.Motherfucker shouldn't have even been added actually.
>>549689050his teleport at least needs an animation or cast delay. It's kusoge fan mod memes right now.
watching sneaky golems lose every week is great
>>549689258>Motherfucker shouldn't have even been added actually.this is the real sinclair TRVKEwould rather have had fucking Kali than this faggot character who is exclusively played by the most zesty faggot you know or trannies.
>>549689394I agree but swapping back and forth is a much better character identity than before when he just used it as a blinkI think the assistant should move along the same path as sinclair to fuck over extreme long range cheese while also making it more viable for damage output
>>549678737>top 500is the title a joke? top 500 lmao. at that point just say what rank bracket you're in
>>549688104Honestly even with alts removed it's not perfect you still have emotionally unstable spergs in every rank who are just playing with pure spite and contempt for everyone else on their team. I had a game just yesterday where a Paige player said he was tilt queueing and muted all of us in advance then started inting 4 minutes in because his lane duo did something he didn't likeUnfortunately it's just something that will always be present with or without smurfs because these games don't actually punish faggotry and spergs
>>549689408The fact they lost that was so pathetic, their yamato straight up inted the game at the mid-late stage of the game there with the urn when the enemy team was doing mid boss.
>Keep having to turn on the lane with party optionWhy won't it just save?
>>549689927in overwatch you get to grandmaster at like 4000 elo and then the players who are top 500 in the elo rankings get their own distinct rank badge so it's technically it's own brakcet, same shit as challenger in league (i think)
>>549690162to add onto this low GM and high GM are basically entirely different ranks.it's unironically as big as like gold to low masters
>>549678737Why are you watching this, why do you care
I'm no longer motivated
>>549680839>the only thing I can think that he can do better is pop an infuser unstoppable ult to survive a 1v6 surprise gank for 6s w a 135 sec cdeshift but twice as expensive...
>>549690162Okay, but they should just title it "Overwatch LEGEND rank player" or whatever it's called, because saying "top 500" is a little underwhelming. What is Overwatch's playercount, anyway?
>>549690642>What is Overwatch's playercount, anyway?More than this shitty game called "Deadlock".So Overwatch top 500 is actually better than a Deadlock #1 player
>>549690489yea he’s ass
>>549691392yet he seems completely incapable of aiming or even reading the items that he buys
>>549690642 i think its like call of duty where it seems dead based on how it's rarely discussed online other than to make fun of it but it has a billion normies who still love it
>>549672645today I will remind them
>>549691898that's how i feel about league>>549691948thank you for the reminder dynamo stomp anon
>>549691948very glad i have to see this faggot handicap-accessibility-feature-disguised-as-a-hero every game
>>549691948Take the knockup away from stomp. Dynamo should only be an ultbot character.
>>549687469i want to cuddle and rail this fairy creature
>this guy is better than me at Deadlockhttps://statlocker.gg/profile/20183102/matcheslook at the items
>>549694198looks like a metro smurf where he decided to play only vindicta
>play CLOSED ALPHA TEST game>sperg that people arent doing the hecking epic meta build that your favorite streamer told you is poggers and cracked and you'll fry lobbies with it frfrongkys
How do I get the most out of Vyper's slither?
So why exactly is Doorman allowed to shit out gun damage with a godlike gun while also shitting out spirit damage while still having the best playmaking kit in the game
>>549694314Dota 2 is still called a beta, these terms are meaningless. Everyone knows this is the entire game and all changes are going to be minor at best. Like dropping health packs instead of just healing.It's impressive how badly they fucked this game. I am going to celebrate so hard when Icefrog finally dies. Cake and everything. I'll be sure to post it here.
>>549694561devs pet character from the new batch
>>549694561he can't do both of those at once. the gun build is also ass and requires too much money. BWC just let him farm forever.
>>549694637>he can't do both of those at oncewhat exactly stops the gun doorman from doing game deciding plays?>the gun build is also assLiterally just won finals against a team full of players 5 times better than you.
>>549694610>Dota 2 is still called a beta
>>549694880>finalsNo such thing>5 times betterDoubtful
>>549694610>dota 2 is still called a beta>look inside>dota 2 left beta 10 years ago and anon thinks this is an epic zinger because some files, which mind you have existed since the beta, have the word "beta" in themi was joking the first time but this time for real kys
>>549694880reminder that we were being gaslot about gun doorman being bad BEFORE he got nerfedhe has never been considered "good" by these people, its always a fucking cope
>>549694610i hope everythings okay at school, dont let a mental disability drag you down
>>549694561he literally cannot do both at the same time, you low elo glue eater.his gun doorman build before all of the gun nerfs required you to have almost nothing but orange items and Glass cannon.and if it he isn't, he's doing meme gun damage.you sound like you got gaped by a doorman and now want to cry about it.
>Trying out characters>Accidentally rest hand on keyboard in hero select >There's a character filterShit you learn something new everyday
>>549695110>he has never been considered "good" by these people, its always a fucking copeCase in point>>549695071>finals>No such thing
>>549695291By that logic, the inhouses people host are also tournaments
It seems some fags got triggered over their game still being a beta after who knows how many years. Deadlock is going to be the same, be happy with it being an alpha for the next ten years.With no working anti-cheat.
>>549693034make it a slow
>>549695428>>549694610heres your (you)'s now go away
>>549695240ya if you type in char select it highlights charactersM hilights mirage, mina, mokrill, etc
>the streamniggers found out about dynamothey're going to nerf my boy into the ground because of them
>>5496410386 hero patch was outsourced to devs in agartha>>549642047it’s good cheap damage and mitigation for basically the entire game because you’re always going to be shooting npcs also it builds into cultist sacrifice which is extremely good if you get it earlyHonestly I really dislike that it gives damage resistance vs guardians since they’re already not very threatening to dive when you can parry them
>>549695626God I fucking hope so, his stomp is such bullshit
>>549695232I love how you just had to samefag and still did the same mistake of saying both things when I mentioned 3 different things.
>>549695626He's been top 3 winrate in every bracket for a while, it was never a secret anyone needed to "find out".
>>549695626Yeah dude the streamers are why that dumbfuck is getting nerfed
>>549695626And?What's the issue?Do you seriously believe the nutty professor should have a way better and way way way bigger power slash on a charge ability while also having the strongest ult in the game?
>muh elo muh elo muh elonigga nobody plays this game
>>549695946…and other things eternus players say
>>549695698>agarthaMY NIGGA RICHTOFEN IS COMING SOON?????
>2025>They still haven't fixed all the dodging being 100% dependent on who has the shittiest connection
>black hole into gg no re for the thousandth fucking timeI'm so fucking tired of this character
>>549696921honestly dislike dynamo’s lane-wide brap that deals 600 damage and immobilizes and slows and fucks your fire rate on 4 charges lategame even more than his ult
>>549696630they actually want it to be like that check out how fucking retarded the melee hitbox is it's so long
>>549697209Brave
>>549697209They need to make it not go through walls it's probably the most annoying ability in the game
>>549696261agartha has been here the whole time
>>549697305I only post certifiable truclear bombs
>>549697623Yeah how about posting without being an attentionwhore
>>549697696It’s easier to fill out the name field than to include it at the end
>>549696261agartha's been here for awhile. it was always above the bananas!
Won't re-install until they make games not be stomps
won't re-install until they delete billy and dynamo from the game
>>549698214dota 2 has over 300k bots. This game literally never stood a chance.
>Oh you lost your lane? don't worry you can just farm ju-oh and they're invading our jungle and because we lost they have more souls >That's okay I can just farm the...like two, maybe 3 safe camps the jungle has>Oh cool now the enemy shiv is over 3k ahead haha surely I can just play safe and freeze the wave and everything will be okay>aaaand he rotated and got 3 kills and we lost all of our T1s while they still have 2 of theirs>aaaand they're grabbing urnThere is no way to come back from a bad early game unless the enemy team is completely retarded and throws away their lead for no reason
>>549698378>enemy team is completely retarded and throws away their lead for no reasonfortunately this happens often unless you are eternus
>>549694637doorman bwc....... mnph......
Is Mirage supposed to be useless early game? I do tickle damage until I'm running very high spirit power
>Pocket's ult is nothing but DOT >Can't kill>Infernus gets nonstop DOT with no cooldown>Can killWhat did Yoshi mean by this?
>>549698214Every game being a stomp is a good thing if you’re the one winning
>>549698378I know, and they have had a problem like this since the game's launch and they are unable to fix it. They seem unwilling to do experimental stuff like removing urn for other objectives that may be more comeback oriented. As the player base skill improves MORE games become stomps because less terrible mistakes happen. The game makes no sense
>>549698521His early game damage isn't great until 4.8k spirit investment but he still has kill potential thanks to tornado
>>549698521Hes a tank early game. Just use tornado to set up kills until you level up abilities and get good items.
>>549698378a bad early game is the easiest to recover from, a bad mid game is the death sentence
i am so fucking tired of dumbfuck huge aoe bombs that nuke you behind cover
>>549698985i can't believe there was a time when ivy's ult bomb went through walls and it still fucking silenced too.
how do I land sinclair bolts against players who are aware of the jump button?
>>549698884>a bad early game is the easiest to recover fromNot it isn't and this is seen most clearly in these organized "pro" matches where nearly every game is a snowball stomp. Recoveries after a bad early game are rare
>>549698985I hate geist bombs and dynamo stomps hitting me through shit
>>549699121lol
>>549698541infernus needs to be fucking removed from the game
gut every single grenade ability scaling during laning phase
Gut every spirit item and aoe abilityGuns only should be allowed
gut third personmake it an fps
GUT (REMOVE) ITEM SCALING
>>549699721thirty consecutive games of laning against a kelvin and geist
>>549699781Only time it would ever be worth picking paige is if I can look down and see her hyper cowtits jutting out through her sweater
>>549699604Amen
>>549695856he's been that way since forever because people play him like an ult bot, not because of his stomp or his gun
>>549700171So because people take advantage of one thing another bullshit thing in his kit should go untouched?How about just fixing both?
start buying scourge and healbane on paige.
>>549700256when did I say it should go untouched? all i'm saying is that the streamniggers will just make the inevitable nerfs be even more severe
>>549700261I have to buy healbane on every hero because my nigger team won't buy it until minute 25 even if the enemy team is a geist/abrams/ivy/victorI'm ascendant 3
>>549700261Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, sissy support club is 3 blocks down
>>549700261Start playing a fucking proper fucking build, paige is extremely fucking easy to build for but you retardeD FUCKINGF FAGOTS KEEP BUILIDNG RETARDED POINTLESS ITEMS ON HER INSTEAD OF ACTUAL SUPPORT ITEMS THAT HELP THE TEAM IN 10X MORE MEANINGFUL WAYS THAN FUCKING SCOURGEKILL YOURSELF
There should be a hero who's bug themedPeople like bugs, it would be a hit
>>549686778Eternus 7
>>549701296How about a big fucking spider so arachaphobes cant play and we get to read 100 steam threads about how they are pussies and cant play
I don't know why they didn't directly copy dota's ability level up+talent tree system. I don't think the current ability system is good at all.
>>549701686Experience and money are too complicated for tards to understand so they simplified it
poule baque
>>549698521Quicksilver Reload into Surge of Power both on 3 will have you doing 500+ damage on an 8x mark.
>play seven 10 games in a row>top souls by a fair margin every game>participate in teamfights, push walkers, kill walkers solo (pisslow)>leave a lane to push another, ask someone to cover the lane I just left so I can try to push/kill another walker>nobody does this>that walker nearly dies to creepthis has happened in 8/10 of my last matches and I don't know what to do about it
>>549702862build speed and nanny the lane yourself, shoving far forward then farming and returning. it's not ideal, but it works
>>549702862did you ask over mic? depending on rank you have to essentially yell orders to your team like a general or they won't even notice you are actually talking to thempings are worthless in most ranks, probably every rank below oracle and even there and above most people ignore them
>victor is at 18k>blink>victor is at 30kDo you have to chase this fucker around the entire game to ensure he doesn't get enough souls or something?
>>549701090scourge lets you give 40% spirit resistance to an ally how is that not a support item.
>>549701090how are healbane and scourge not support items you retard
>>549703223you gotta invade while he's weak
>>549703223>>victor is at 18k>>blink>>victor is at 30kthis does not happen after the jungle nerfs
>>549703223ward his jungle
>>549704185LMAO I love the Dota 2 community meme reference
>>549703558Anyone can buy healbane. It's not a support item and it's something you'll likely buy often on most other characters because the effect is obviously good but the heals are extremely good on aggressive heroes. And importantly paiges only somewhat reliable source of spirit damage will be dragon's breathe. Maybe this retards idea is scourge + healbane together specifically BUT DIVINE BARRIER IS FUCKING 10X BETTER THAN WASTING A SLOT ON THIS GARBAGECURSEVORTEX WEBEVEN REFRESHERscourge is FUCKING USELESS on a support like paige. There are so many good, obvious items for her and retards want to build the most retarded, non-sensical shit possible and just ruin peoples games because of it.
>>549704317me toop
>>549704317Thank you!
>>549704424>Anyone can buy healbaneblud anyone can buy divine barrier/curse/web too that doesn't makes them any less supportive>scourge is FUCKING USELESS on a support like paigehave you used it or seen someone use it THOUGH?anyways it's clear you are mad that you threw a game and feel like paige didn't suck your dick hard enough and it's actually his fault that you fumbled the ball anyways, i'm just ragebaiting you
don't worry guys once I get glass cannon on dynamo we can start winning
>>549704729yes, you need core items on Dynamo to do well. What is your point?
>>549704609>blud anyone can buy divine barrier/curse/web too that doesn't makes them any less supportiveExcept a lot of characters don't want to buy those items because other items are more impactful for scaling their damage/sustain. >have you used it or seen someone use it THOUGH?Like I said, those other items I listed are 10x more impactful. You are a retard.
>>549704424>healbane>scourge>divine barrier>knockdown>pick 1 curse/echoshard/vortexwebThis is a perfectly fine build if you have a close range hero carrying your game. Someone like Victor/Abrams/Yamato/Drifter who usually wouldn't have slots to buy healbane but also needs lots of initiation armor.Being someone who doesn't budge on their faggot build just makes you seem retarded.
>>549704840hold on let me farm a bit im only 5k away, can we all wait 4 minutes? i'm really close to it!
>50 minute game>ends up being close, despite two mouth breathers on our team and two amazing players on the enemy team>check statlocker after>enemy players were archon, ours were alchemistsasuga yoshi
It's cold so come join the inhouse. 0VZX60VZX60VZX6
guys did the egyptians kill charlie kirk with vindictas sniper
>>549705642Fuck I accidentally left. T1016T1016T1016
PLEASE FUCKING BRING BACK UNRANKED I FUCKING BEG YOUTIRED OF THE AIMHACKERS AND THE RANKSHITTERSI JUST WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING FUN AND STOP PLAYING HARD CARRY EVERYGAME FUCK
>>549705791or is calico just insane
wtf seven is really fun
pisslow seven is funget to run at mach 12 and zap homos
>>5497058546/12
cough cough dead game cough cough
>>549705040You should wait, he is the most overpowered character in the game, and he is your carry. Know your place, Warden player
>>5497058548/12
will melee creeps ever lose
>I'm ivy>enemy lane playing like shit, eating my stuns and getting fucked>we get a few kills, take tower>look at my mid lane>our drifter and wraith are getting their asses handed to them a bit>ok, guess I'll rotate and we can kill/push maybe>ping middle lane, ping my ult, ping enemy heroes>fly over, use my combo>my drifter pushes 4>wraith leaves to farm jungle>drifter never actually walks up to help, he just pushed 4 and decided to farm the wave>die after getting both enemy laners lowidk what to do sometimes, some people just do not want to win
>>54970585410/12
>>549708097how about you use your mic
>>549708614Retards don't deserve to hear my angelic voice
>>549708646Then suffer the curse of the luddites.
>>549708120This was somehow less fun and enjoyable than my ritualist matches.
>>549650262wasn't always like this in dota, took icefroig 6 years (from alpha release) to introduce that pick/ban mechanic in mm. yoshi will figure thisout..... soon....
does anyone use counterspell? you get so many spells slugged at you in a team fight it's impossible to actually counter the spell you want like lash ulti
>>549710562if only we could tell who the fuck was shuffling the match
>>549710674counterspell blocks every spell during the 0.8s window
never shufflednever will
poo back
>>549705854T1016need 1
>star playing Doorman>every single time my opponent comes out of the closet, the fucker is 3 meters away from the point where I got him with my Ult>and its always either forward or backwards without rhyme or reason.I hate this shit so much, fucks the luggage cart combo too often. Aside from that Doorman is fun, chucking bells all over the place is fun.
https://files.catbox.moe/wc8u38.mp4
>>549710543nta but>AIIIIIIEEEEEE YOU HAVE TO PRETEND THIS CUSTOM GAME THAT ENDS IN A 20 MIN STOMP IS FUN
>>549711045aaaaaa scary
>>549711070lmaoraped bitch
>>549711070nta but>im raped
did you guys notice that mcginnis was cheating? you left it enabled i saw him spawn a 2k bag on the ground
>>549710709I don't know what that means, joining was a mistake and I won't fall for that again.>>549710543Geist left 5 seconds before the game ended, what's the point of this post?Is this all you guys do in these inhouses?Stomp new people and then do screencaps?
I will be reviewing that last inhouse and will be posting your full steamid with a clip of you
>>549711189>>549711217enjoy your trooncord shithouse that you have to literally plead and beg people to join
>>549711306the mcginnis was a newfag who felt he needed to prove something (???)celi idk wanted to go on a killing spreetrust me 90% of the time these matches go above 40 minutes.
11/12 INHOUSEF49OTF49OTF49OT
>>549711483T1016the bell tolls eleven times
>>549711354im not in any discord servers i just join when they get posted
>>549711483I'll join after this match
>>549712164We will be glad to receive you, so we can give you a one-sided stomp that is 20 minutes. Please redeem the inhouse saar
>>549712164Sorry my game went longer than I expected is there still room?
EFFEMINATE BOLT
Why do newtards not know how to deal with WardenI swear to fuck every time I first see him when I'm playing in shitter ranks with my friend he's at minimum 10-0 with half of my team's networth
>>549714457*disarming hexes warden*wow such skill many wow very skill*kills warden*
https://www.adl.org/report-incident
>>549714334wash werewolf glands
i posted a video on youtube to talk about the drama going on, you know who you are and you really need to step up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5v2dJILqzY
>>549715036ai anon should make this into lash
Need 1 for inhouseT1016T1016
saar saar play our troonhouse
Today I have been going exclusively green, specifically resistances and it's funny>trophy collector >enduring speed>emblem and vest>both shielding>both resilience >plate, witch, spellbb, and jugg in whatever order needed
>lane with shiv>he starts roaming for every box on the map 2 minutes in like he's some kind of min-maxing meta god>enemy team just pushes>2v1 lane, lose>lose gameI hate phantom so much its unreal these people want to act like they're pros except they are all completely fucking retarded
how hard did you guys shit on this retard that he's just sperging about troonhouses in the general
>>549686147>punch vindicta can legitimately delete people in secondshow
THIS is what Mina should've looked like.
bros... m1gger mo is not very good...
>>549718112if i can deny that character in lane it shouldnt build m1 because im always the better m1
Need 1 for inhouseT1016T1016T1016
>>549718609meds
Guess who won
>>549719145team with billy obv
>>549719145left if bot lobbyright if eternus+
I don't see why sevens are ult maxxing again. I thought it got constant nerfs, why is it meta again?
>>549719145one team has wraith but the other team has billySo as usual I'm gonna call it and say that Mina completely decided that game, either he was a drooling retard or was above 50 IQ and demolished.we can see who won with the patron image on the side retard
>>549718609game got remade, still got 2 slots
Cheating should have a 99% chance of turning you into a frog and ban you but also have a 1% chance to turn you into a cool mecha gundam suit with really bloated stats.
boring ahh inhouse fill up faster
>>549719528OK but only if the mecha explodes and wipes the player's patron right before it would otherwise win the game
Please just nerf DynamoThis nigger can be 0-10 and still be effective with a billion health and his unmissable slams and unmissable ultDelete this retarded character
>>549719820we're doing 4v4 all mid pick your hero faggot
There should be a knockdown upgrade that works on unstoppable>b-but that would be OPDota has 'unstoppable' piercing stuns and it's perfectly fine there.
>>549717307idk how hard it is to understand that you only go get boxes when your lane is pushed up under their guardian
>literally nobody on team is positive>tell team to buy healbane and disarming hex>enemy team has vindicta>i have disarming hex, knockdown, and healbane as minalosing team
>>549717307if I get an absolute cuck as my lane partner I run boxes and gank other lanes and let them take towereternus btw
>>549719454meds
>>549717498punch, punch, snipestake to keep them from escaping, crows increase melee damagethe only thing keeping vindicta from being a genuinely good melee character is her paper health
>>549721069>punch, punch, snipePeople parry>crows increase melee damageHuh
>>549720641the best part about that guy is that not only did we lose lane immediately and for no reason, he did not even have a soul advantage over anyone. he'd have more souls if he just did the bare minimum and stayed in lane. trying to grab every box right as they spawn put him behind and the enemy ahead as they got tower for free. and after? the enemy ganked the other lanes and shiv...went for more boxes/farm. at that point the game was over
When will Valve add a wolf hero to the game?
>>549722040Whenever silver comes out.
every time i win it's because i have at least 15k more / top objective damagenever when i don'tmadge
>>549722040yiff in hell
>bebop crying about how he's in a pisslo lobby while him and his wraith friend cry in all chat>wraith goes afk in base 15 minutes intorture smurfskill smurfsrape smurfs
>>549721504>People parryBait them, that's just about any melee character, the only character that gets a free melee in is abrams and even that is a gamble (debuff remover + chain cc reduction)If they're under half you can get a free headshot snipe if you read their parry
do i need to be eternus to get into a hero's leader boards?
>>549723524No they just stopped updating them for some reason.
>>549720641i do the same thing.like it's just not even fun laning with a teammate that isn't playing the game to the point that doing a box route is genuinely more fun.the last one i did this to kept coping and saying he was doing better in lane without me as the guardian fell and he died with it afterwards instead of just abandoning it like he should have.my favorite is also when they cry and complain about me leaving the lane by spam pinging me but my other teammates love me for ganking their lanes early.
>>549719145Left because Vyper is secretly busted.
what does an unlimited funds victor build look like? when i sell fleetfoot i always end up regretting it
how do people get so much soul, I'm in the lane protecting the guardian, I blink and everyone got 6K instantly
mfw calico
Here's the duo on your team on the other side of the map. Say something nice about them.
>>549728398Don't make fun of rape victims.
>>549728535They were both women too so, LIKELY!
>>549726929watch a replay
why does Billy get Vyper tier DPS on his gun early gamewhy does he also get to have bashdownwhy does he also have a top 5 ultimate in the gamewhy does he get bonus health instead of healing so healbane does nothing against him
I love me some Paigehttps://files.catbox.moe/on869w.webm
>>549679920Thats fallacious my guy
>>549730747PSA: this is a gameplay webm, not one where you can see Paige's pussy
>>549730747I feel like every character could've achieved that
Imagine Paige and Abrams bonding over a misunderstanding after Abrams says he's interested in a book.
Imagine haze blushing
>>549732309paige has gone blue and will try nothing new
Should I bite the bullet and use custom huds already? I'll still feel it's unfair against those who don't use it.
>>54973285950/50 odds that Valve eventually breaks or forbids all the custom shit at some time anyway. Might be better off not getting used to custom stuff in the long run. Happened for dota.
>>549732859Dude just install some fucking hacks lmfaoBoy scouts fretting about the competitive integrity of their play when you can install and hack you want and literally never get banned
>>549733717Yeah just download some hacks already nothing bad will happen to you ribbit
>>549733717kill yourself, pedophile
>>549733717Having a UI mod that makes information you already had available to you one click closer is quite different from autoaim and autoparry. One enhances the game experience just for you, and the other detracts from it for everyone in the lobby.
>>549732859once you play long enough all the info you get from it comes second nature.get it if you don't play that much or something i guess, lots of top players don't have it.
>Power Surge>Imbued with Surge of Power
>>549734968My favorite UI mod is the one that dims the enemy hero portraits that aren't visible on the map. It's extremely convenient.
>>549735147you'll go insane when you realise how many items start with the word Mystic
>>549735147Is seven the easiest canonically to itemize for?Surge of powerTesla/capacitorLightning scrollHe should be the noob introducer not abrams
>>549735238they could definitely make it clearer at a glance, but i'm already used to just looking to see if i can see their HP bar or not.really wish valve would just roll in all this shit into a UI update for everyone, but i can see valve being hesitant to put more stuff on the UI because fucking retards that don't even play the game ALWAYS make fun of the game's UI.
>>549735892Iirc ui improvements were in the big update comming up, who knows what's that entails specifically tho
mina: brappaige: braplady giest: brappé
>>549736251
>>549732119yeah, but from my experience with Paige people often get overconfident when playing against her and start doing stupid shit to kill her only to waste time or wind up dead themselvesonce I happened to juke two enemies by going in and out of teleporters while rooting, stunning an disarming them, allowing my team to push the walkers
>>549736251mina toots tho
this is your threadly reminder to HIT THE FUCKING OBJECTIVES YOU RAT FUCKS
>>549738130I'm playing lash.
>>549738130>*throws kudzu bomb under walker*You're welcome :)
>>549738845at least push the cunting waves then plz>>549738994ty ivy gjgj
>>549739045I will push the waves but as soon as I smell a gank I'm leaving. I gotta get those trophy stacks to keep up since I can't jungle.
how the fuck do you do that zipline speed boost around the bend at blue lane?the one that goes around the building to the right of it that gets you back into lane faster that everyone does.
>>549738130objectives dont matter only mid boss matters sorry not worth risking dying to give up mid boss
>>549739273t. Hasn't played in a month
>>549739273Soloing a walker gives you like 3k souls, they're 100% worth something. Game winning? Prolly not, but if you do it as a carry then thats a massive boost to your late game powerspike
Maturity is realizing geist is a healer support
>walker stomp is actually slightly bigger than the lines on the groundyou had one fucking job, valve.seriously what the hell was the point of drawing these circles on the ground?
>>549739626Correct I'm playing marvel rivals instead which is an actually fun hero shooter WITH a surrender button.
>>549739896Every Rivals support makes Paige look balanced and fair, have fun buddy.
>>549682139after MikaelS quit they're all redditor tier except i guess some russian streamers like dimov and abl
>>549739273>objectives dont matterhow else do you take the base you downy. please stay at rivals
>>549740512You dont need to take any objective until mid boss then you just end the game and take everything all at once cause the game is dumb. Just farm until you are 50k souls ahead by choking them out, get boss if they ever die. Every game is like that
Since the walkers start with such high resist is it not way better to stack shred early if you want to damage them?
>>549740585actual braindead retard take. i put a curse upon your bloodline
>>549740597it's better to take their shit if you have enough map control to contest a walker that early on.that or you're in the ranks where people don't ask for help when mcginnis is dicking their walker at 13 minutes and nobody is rotating to get a free kill.
Now this is basically just throwing
>>549741082am i retarded? how did amber have such a fat soul lead but lose guardians at 5mins?
>>549741082Lash/Dynamo lane is kino.
>>549738994not what she looks like
>>549741727But that's OK because it was made before her model update
>>549739896>likes the surrender buttonPlease keep playing rivals, everybody is better off without you here
>>549742140Dont worry we got a big patch coming up in a day or two. Too bad deadlock's devs delayed theirs for another month and barely work on the game
>>549682139midlock
>>549739876you need to be within the line for it to stomp retard
>>549744070wrongit triggers at it's range.
>>549698378Yeah, matches feel scripted af these days. I can predict the outcome 4-5 minutes in with 95% accuracy just by looking at the state of the 3 lanes and the comps.
>>549719145>m on teammy heart says right but I know left won because of the patron in the bg
>>549741181that's sapphire losing their guardian, the time represents the time when that side's objective fell
>>549744927oh i am retarded. thanks anon
>>549719234>bot lobbyonly low elo players use this term btw
>match average rank>rank on profile>statlocker rank>hero rank arrowsI DON'T KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>549745087Hey man as long as you had fun that match nothing else matters.
>be phantom>sometimes get ascendant games>when I do they are the worst cases of skill disparity and decided entirely by which side has the eternus playeri don't want to rank up but i don't want to lose either
>>549719145You commended mostly everyone so obviously the left side after you won, but autistically hated vyper for something she did wrong in the match. Probably your lane partner when you fed and blamed her
Was watching deathy yesterday and he said a lot of the pros have no idea how the game systems actually work. They just have a billion hours played and try to intuit shit. Which is obvious to anyone with eyes but still there is retards that act like they are infallible
My playstyle rely on my team to not be retarded too much.The lower the average match's rank is, the worse I perform.
>>549746240i mean doorman in general can't really do much on his own nowadays so yeah
>>549746240>My playstyle rely on my team to not be retarded too much.Unless you're playing an actually carry or broken hero like Billy you will always have to rely on your team not being retarded
>>549745597and those eternus pussies tend to swap to weaker side too.. heckin pussies
Any geist players can give feedback on my opener?First three items >headshot booster>mystic regen>healing rite4.8k >active reload>headhunter>healing booster>healing nova>spirit sap>radiant regen
>>549748362mystic burstmystic expansionextra regenmystic regenerationRadiant regenerationhealing boosterHealbaneEnduring speedCultist sacrificekinetic dashThe earlier you can get radiant regen, the better. massively reduces the self damage without having resists.Depending on lane, I'll buy suppressor soon after radiant or after a couple greens.
>abrams to vindicta on the zipline>"huh you're blue too huh?">"*sigh* yes abrams i AM blue"Thoughts? Do you think i have a chance at being hired as a writer at valve?
>>549749380Reason for cultist+kdash? I went for mine because they combo'ed with healbooster. To me cultist is something you want when you gun is poop and geists is pretty good
>>549749541>calico to haze on the ziplie>"youre black too huh?>"*haze sighs*, yes calico I'm a black woman of valve unoriginality just like you"
>>549749541Put some respect on abrams, he is a detective not some dumb oaf
>>549749541you add a "yeah.... we'd better get this over with" it probably doesn't sound that bad
>>549739201Crouch off zipline, immediately air dash using A + W with your camera slightly to the right, air jump after a short delay.
>>549749748I take bomb to 3AP and go hard on farming the enemy jungle. The gun damage is okay, but you get scaling health and ability range.Your bomb is flat hp dmg, so having more helps a lot. Being able to instantly eat an enemy t3 is still a strong tool, especially if you intercept someone trying to kill it regularly.
Today... *cough*... There will be *cough cough *.... A megapatch.... *cough cough cough* -beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep-
what's the deal with holiday recentlywhat do i build on her?
>>549750476barrel (so spirit nuker)
>>549749541Then have her say if she was green she would die.
>>549682139Metro is peak aryan, actually.
>>549750059Why do you cling to this? Yoshi already said it's in january.
>>549682139just play the game nigger, don't sit on the cuck chair watching someone else do it
>>549751386he's fucking dead anon have some respect...
>>549750857
>>549741837Did they ever update this mod to be based off her redesign?
>>549751386He said PROBABLY delayed so there is a chance and anyone saying January is COPING AND DISHONEST
>>549756667>dlggers>dishonestNO… really!?
>>549749773
>>549741837Where did you get this photo of my wife?I miss when she was a gargoyle and not a fucking lizard.
>>549749773the gem that summoned the patron
>>549749773kek
>win 7 times in a row>only rank up onceDon't really get the MMR
>3/13 paradox>3/11 bebop>8/13 doorfag>911 obj damage victorthis was a close game somehow... What the fuck am I even playing at this point holyshit.
Just played a 40 minute game as Warden where I had constant net jitters so every teamfight I was just staring at a frozen screen.I still outdamaged over half the enemy team and ended with a score of 5-4-20 and won the game.Is warden fucking busted? I was barely even playing the game most teamfights, just watching a slideshow
I CAN'T FAIL!!!!!!!!! *nukes your general direction*
>>549763504*jumps*
>>549763458He's insane in the sense that he requires very little skill to accomplish bullshit performance. I could give warden to a codbro and he'd still 1 v 11 assuming I was directing his macro/build.I still don't understand why they felt the need to buff him and Billy when they were already strong.
>>549763684SENDING SHOCKWAVE
>>549763240average potentialman lobby
>>549763173trust me it only gets worse the further you go
Dead game for trannies
>>549764606overwatch is that way sir
>>549764461Yeah but I'm not even in high elo which is whats confusing me. Surely they don't want me ruining games down here? I've grown out my elo.I know you can make a smurf and skip the ranks but that's gay.
>>549749541>Mo 2 Krill on the zipline>"Krill your Mo 2?">"*Mo sighs* "yes Krill I am Mo 2"Thoughts? Am I Krill 2 Mo 2?
Do you think if rem jumps in mirage and he teleports, then both of them will be transported? I think they might
Why is gun Ivy so much harder to carry than with Wraith?
I am the turret tower.I am the objective annihilator.I am the Seven main.
>>549766347because gun ivy is a shit meme that can't actually carry properly
>>549766347because1. Wraith is overtuned2. Your farming is unoptimized.>>549767198...and other things seekers believe
>>549767287>...and other things seekers believeprojecting much?ivy has 53% WR in seeker (your rank) and 49% WR in ascendant+ (my rank)
>>549766347Base dps too low so you dont scale
>>549765482that's how it works with lifestealer
the infernus nerf was not enough. he's still a braindead hero that gets to do 1k damage 10 minutes in just from his passive. his abilities still refresh afterburn 100% too. honestly his entire kit is absolutely busted, why do some heroes have to work so hard to get results and others are seemingly blessed by God and would have to work their ass off to be bad?
>>549769036>Infernus in my team>Has zero gun items>Has some dash build>Still deals more damage than meYeah he's insane.
the matchmaking has never been this bad
>>549767287the best gun ivy player in the world would rather play gun calico right now btw
>>549769036>the infernus nerf was not enough.>46% winrate
>>549769564>legitimate gun ivy downplayerskys
>>549769687trust me, it hurts to have to run defense for this braindead cunt character here, but shes objectively not great right now
>>549769628Infernus players are elo-inflated, that does not mean the character is bad. Just that his mains cannot function if the character doesn't break the game.
>>549769628yes let’s just buff infernus and mina>high pickrate>low winrate>universally hated>raped comp scenesthere’s a reason even a hack like Yoshi can make sure retarded downplayers in the general populace don’t affect actual balance
>>549770457>yes let’s just buff infernus and minathis tbdesu
gonna play melee vindicta
>>549638401I just saw a youtube video about the next update and future update leaks.The Patron redesign is neat... And makes total sense, but for some reason I actually envisioned the current designs as being more or less final. They look like placeholders given the "foresight" of the radically different (and more generic) patron design, very leshen-esque with the horns and whatnot. But they're unique and not like featureless. They have a neat look to them.Also, what do you guys think of Rem? Because as someone who's played League and knows what Yuumi did to that game, I find him cute but his existence is deeply concerning.also necro when, I need to goon
>>549770751Rem is 100% gonna break the game for a week, he's yummi on steroids. Just stick him on a m1 carry... and whew.
everyone comparing Rem to Yuumi and not Abathur kill yourselves.
>>549771008does REM stay in the fucking base?no?then shut the fuck up retard
>>549770852Yeah the video I saw, the guy making it merely mentioned knowing of Yuumi by name. He did not give it the reverence deserved. Rem can and will very easily FUCK the game up bad.>>549771008>Heroes of the Stormsay what you want about League but HOTS is at the bottom of every assfaggots totem pole, you're delusionalalso from what I just read Yuumi is 100% more of an apt comparison for what Rem does, which is literally latch on to other characters and travel around on them
>>549771823hots had kits with more soul than dota has had for the last 10 years and I am NOT kiddingt. dotard with almost 5k hours into the game
>>549771598Abathur should be positioned as aggressive as possible(not in the base) to shorten the travel time of his bugs(which have duration). In addition, he can soak exp with his body as well as his symbiote for x2 exp(which you need because your team is basically down 1 man)t.grandmaster aba
>>549772291can REM affect the entire map?no?then shut the fuck up retard
>>549772291okay well yuumi chooses a champion and becomes a part of them, essentially equipped on them, and loses all movement autonomy granting passive bonuses to them while occasionally pressing a few skill buttons and being untargetable
>>549766660What does any of this mean?
After reinstalling and playing some Dota, deadlock should absolutely shy away from carry/support gold distribution and allow scaling on all heroes with souls>select all 5 roles>10 minutes to find a match>always hard support minus one offlane game>feed carry tangoes, mangoes, clarities>have to buy sentries>expected to take all of the risk in pushing lanes>gold does not go nearly as far on character because no scaling>has the least gold, takes the riskiest gold, scales the worst with the goldI'm not some faggot who won't do my job as support properly but if a game with 300k-600k concurrent players cannot find a match, something is dearly wrong with the role queue system. My one offlane game over the past 2 weeks had a pudge support btw
>>549773385Dota is exclusively played by peruvians in the west and chinks in the east, it's functionally a dead game killed with patches and valve inactivity to fix core issues like said regional pests.Even Valve stopped trying with the internationals and the prize pool went from dozens of millions to 2 millions from one year to another, it's close to maintenance mode with some balance patches every now and then and community made hats, much like TF2.
>>549770852>>549770751I don't think being untargetable for maybe 20 seconds with duration extender and providing a free divine barrier is that big of a deal
>>549774045I always wanted to get into it a little bit having played some League and liking the assfaggots formula but I tried to play it recently to get some of the FOMO Monster Hunter collab rewards and got filtered so fucking hard by the UI and general feel. No game's UI is as overwhelming and makes me feel like I'm drowning like trying to play a single game of that shit. League's UI and item shop is fine, even Deadlock's is fine. Starcraft build trees are fine. Dota's shop UI is a bunch of tiny rectangles and I don't know where anything is or what to buy and I can't even tell what half the shit is either (the hero select screen is similar, a ton of tiny, unfamiliar squares I have to look through for 10 hours if I don't already know where someone is).
>>549772354We dont know the third skill>>549772513Basically abathurs symbiote except his body is channeling in whatever hiding spot hes chosen
>>549774045>Even Valve stopped trying with the internationals and the prize pool went from dozens of millions to 2 millions from one year to anotheri don't disagree that it's a dead game for the anglosphere but this only happened because they went from cool battlepass shit in the middle of the pandemic to a kinda dogshit one right after that endedonce they saw the line didn't go infinitely up they just used that as an excuse to drop the shit outta it because they couldn't be arsed to do bps with items that weren't exclusively community made anymore
>>549770751>but for some reason I actually envisioned the current designs as being more or less final.You're fucking retarded the current designs are absolute trash.They're supposed to be demi god demon hellspawns that once unleashed fuck everything up, instead they look like a weird puppet, there's nothing memorable or interesting about them.They're also way too mechanical and doesn't fit the setting, something that extends to the walkers that are also being changed.I gave plenty of feedback and told them several times how shit they looked so I'm glad they knew there was a problem there.>>549774646Dota control and UI should be extremely familiar if you played a fair bit of warcraft 3.If you didn't then it's gonna be extremely alien because it's a 20 year old UI design.That's by design because Valve and Icefrog did their best to carry over the original Dota WC3 mod to Dota 2 as much as possible including all the little quirks and old shit from that mod, the absolutely gargantuan amount of work and autistic attention to detail to achieve this is something I don't see people discuss often enough.It was actually even worse before and the UI straight up covered the entire bottom section like WC3, even if you changed the HUD you still had a black void in those areas.This extends to the gameplay and designs like heroes having innate turn rates, body blocking, etc, time mechanics with day/night, fog of war, etc, standard RTS mechanics.It might take some time getting used to if you played RTS but it'll start clicking relatively fast, but if you haven't I can see people/zoomies getting hard filtered by it specially if you only played league which either dumbed down all these or completely removed them, hell league still has some shitty body blocking but it's just an annoying bug/problem instead of a proper mechanic that often ruins gameplay and has never been addressed.
>>549775698>once they saw the line didn't go infinitely up they just used that as an excuse to drop the shit outta it because they couldn't be arsed to do bps with items that weren't exclusively community made anymoreYou could spin it like that but it's just what valve does, the game was already losing players and it could never hit the peaks it had in 2013-2016ish or so until they literally gave away arcanas for free, and then went back into decline.It has mostly stabilized in those 600-800k concurrent They don't really care that much about profit lines, of course they matter and they will design things around profit and marketability but ultimately what truly decides their projects and what they dedicate time is simple dev interest.Dota 2 is going through the exact same situation TF2 went through, just at a bigger scale;>devs lose interest and leave the project>content starts drying up>valve made cosmetics and updates slow down to a crawl>they "make up for it" with user made cosmetics>eventually these user made hats are 100% of all cosmetic releases, valve barely or no longer releases cosmetics made by them>content/balance updates slow down more and more as years go by until you hit maybe 1 big patch a year at most with some half assed balance patches in between>all this while valve says they're dedicated to keep working on the game, sure, all 4-5 devs left that still care>new devs/devs in general have no interest in working in a 15 year old game with very little room to change or grow>all these devs move to other projects that spike their interest like deadlockThere's no Goldberg telling them to focus on this or that or they're fired, no deadlines and shareholders, if they don't feel like developing X project they simply finish their current shit there and then move their desk to work on Y project.
>>549775958>You're fucking retarded the current designs are absolute trash. They're supposed to be demi god demon hellspawns that once unleashed fuck everything upI never saw the patrons in-game as the actual literal embodiment of some eldritch gods but rather magick-mechanical proxies for them as part of the ritual, hence their weird flatwoods monster designs and behelit facesyou're getting real aggro but the more I think about my position the more I think you're the fucking retard here if you think it makes sense for the player characters to be stopping the ritual by killing a big generic spooky demon horn monster (pic related), it literally makes more sense for the PATRON (aka as a "sponsor" "supporter") to be a crude magic powered technological instrument of will prior to them being unleashed and not the literal demon god already appearing in our realm>something that extends to the walkersthe walkers definitely look out of place
games have been so ass I uninstalled until next major update. Game just isn't fun right now and the teammates I've been getting have been horrible
>>549777896my secret sixth sense tells me next update will have good balance changes overall but the new heroes will be absolutely godawful hyper cancer to play against
games have been so great I installed 2 copies until next major update. Game just fun right now and the teammates I've been getting have been awesome
>>549778092shut up mo
I need Necromancer. I hope next update ships with like 4 new heroes including Necro. The game NEEDS hot chicks to flourish.
Practicing on an aim trainer is an interesting introspective process. It really does make one reflect on grip, posture and physical movements.
would you fuck the sapphire patron?
>>549777318>I never saw the patrons in-game as the actual literal embodiment of some eldritch gods but rather magick-mechanical proxies for them as part of the ritual, hence their weird flatwoods monster designs and behelit facesThey're supposed to be avatars, they should represent the patron.Elder demi god like entities stuck to a limited form that inhibits their powers, that is not properly represented by...this mess, which is clearly left over neon prime assets mixed in with quickly made temp models as they figure out the final art style.It's boring and again not memorable at all, it doesn't fit the setting and now that they're moving into a stylized cel shaded style they look even more out of place.I'm not a huge fan of the leaked designs, they clearly need more to make them feel properly otherworldly and less boring but they're a step in the right direction compared to the nonsensical ugly floating emojis on a puppet body.
>>549778674Since its coming out Jan, I would say there's a good chance its a 6 hero update. They're probably spending the extra time finishing off Pepper/Silver.
>>549779006>coming out in Jan>all the work on Christmas decorations was for nothing
>>549778784i mean there's no winning with you faggots, that leaked amber hand patron looks fucking amazing
>>549778784they could start by giving them different voicelines tbqh
>>549773385>team game>full of the most anti social dregs from across the worldwhat causes this phenomena
>>549779387not him but it does look cool HOWEVER it's just your basic bitch shadow demon. nothing wrong with it but it's nothing that really stands out either. sapphire flame being the statue of liberty is way more unique even if it's been done a few times before too
>>549773385support in dota gets a fuckton of gold now you shitstain.
did the sapphire patron leak or something i dont see it on xitter
>>549778784>>549780026hot take: this is clearly not a simple "placeholder" it has ornate details and thoughtful design and is unironically pretty fucking cool and very unique, but it's not generic and obvious enough for normalfag appeal so they're going with this shitbut hey the new patrons will be fine too
>>549773385Go fuck yourself. It's unironically 10x better than the current iteration because it makes the roles more obvious. I do not want to see a fucking paige or dynamo fucking farming the jungle while my carries are underfarmed. These heroes need to get it through their head that they are not meant to have as many or more souls than the carry. But regardless, i'm convinced the current souls system is temporary anyways. The game CAN'T support dotas gold/xp system when MATCHMAKING IS RANDOM, the game has no official "roles", it's still 6v6 so lanes don't actually matter yet. The game is not in a place where one person is the cuck who gains less gold than the other in lane. It would be disastrous in the current state but they would inevitably change this
>>549780546>it has ornate details and thoughtful designAnon it's simple shapes with a text normal map over the half disc, the face has no movement or animation at all and then probably a emission/alpha mix texture over the neon details and that's fully controlled with simple material settings and upping/decreasing sliders.And its "animation" is moving side to side with the little pinocchio arms shooting a limp laser.I love it when people that have 0 clue on a subject speak on how detailed and well/badly done something is.
>>549781130>I love it when people that have 0 clue on a subject speak on how detailed and well/badly done something is.4chan must be your favorite website.
>>549777318this looks like that nigga from chainsaw man
>>549780603They spent a whole year with many trash patches trying to make this soul system work, its clear they dont want to give up and do the dota thing
>>549781625Read what I said at the end. The game is in a spot where position/roles aren't defined and heroes are matched up nearly randomly. They literally can't do the dota gold/xp system if they wanted to. They might change the soul system, they might not, but either way it has to stay the way it is until further changes to the game.
Why yes, I do play Seven, how could you tell?
we lost 4 lanes and a bigger and better map because these retards couldn't (and still can't) balance souls for shitthanks valve very cool
>>549782546They should have just done the hots thing where the whole team shares souls
>>549782546>4 lanes was goodFuck no it wasn't.It was absolute trash.Unless you think the MM putting literal support Ivys up against old Abrams solo on one lane and Wraith with her old early game up against McNiggis in the other solo lane was "good".It was fucking horrendous.
>>549783328you're saying it yourself that it was a matter of matchmaking rather than anything inherently wrong with solo lanesyou don't see dotards bitch about mid because guess fucking what they know the matchups and play accordingly. apparently the deadtard playerbase is too fucking dumb to do the same?now lanes are stagnant as shit, people still get ganked because you can't really leave your lane until a guardian has fallen, and the map is way fucking worse as a consecuence too
this game is just entirely decided by which team has more retards looking at the minimap and running straight at the group of players that have formed over literally nothing
>>549785474>pushing lane by myself>11 retards fighting in the jungle over no objective instead of just leaving the one retard caught out to die>now our team is wiped and they get mid and winwow amazing gameplay
>>549785474This is why I only play M1s or characters who can split push easy. My teammates can be retarded broolers while I get objectives or even backdoor to win.
>>549783328I have ptsd from hmc abrams
>start game>everyone loading in>instantly can tell which team is going to winoh but thank god they increased hp across all heros by 50 for a second there I was worried that this game might not be balanced!
>focus lensed>vortex webbed>doorman traps me in the cart>he echo shard, refreshes, and uses knockdown>on me playing turret mcginnisholy fucking aids let me out
>>549783906You absolute imbecile.The core issue is roster.They did not, do not, and will not in the foreseeable future have the roster required to support 2 solo lanes in every game.They will inevitably end up with old Abrams vs Support Ivy matches, and the Ivy's team has immediately lost by default.Requiring the playerbase to be able to compensate for a lack of roster is rank idiocy.
>>549787320GOO MAN
>>549787320>on me playing turret mcginnisyou deserve it and worse
>>549788805hell else am i supposed to do when waiting for next month
Cultist should be nerfed everypatch until people stop buying itFleetfoot should be nerfed everypatch until people stop buying itVeilwalker should be nerfed until people start buying shadowweave
>>549789268>Cultist should be nerfed everypatch until people stop buying itbased>Fleetfoot should be nerfed everypatch until people stop buying itcringe>Veilwalker should be nerfed until people start buying shadowweavewe should buff shadowweave instead until people start buying itdesu idk why people don't, especially on drifter, its perfect for him
>5 wins in a rowI'm due a humiliating loss aren't I
>>549789517Shadoweave is already p strong tho thats why I prefer to nerf veilwalkerThe only buff that might make people switch is dropping it to 3200 so they are the same price
>>549789628I'm queueing up support drifter as we speak!
>>549789517More than drifter, its great on beebop and billy. I dont play calico but I imagine its pretty good on her tooThey do need to change it to give buff to whatever ability you cast to break the invis. Rn you have to m1 once because if you drifter rend out of invis the rend the buff wont apply till after the rend
>>549789628I'm on a 7 win streak, my best is 8.Pray for me niggas I'm gonna try to aim for the double digits.
should parry be removed?or maybe make it an item instead?like if you're a squishy support/carry and a billy is up in your face something has gone wrong.why should melee characters have to go though two layers of bullshit (getting on top of you then baiting parry) in order to function?
>>549789983>see a blur pass by >in lane near guardian, don't think anything of it>see it again>0.3 seconds later billy combos me to deathFUCK
>Melee charactersThere's no such thingLast time I checked you still had a gun and abilitiesuse them nigga
>M1 charactersThere's no such thingLast time I checked you still had a melee and abilitiesuse them nigga
>>549790168I suggested a long time ago to rework it to be kind of like block from ssbmIf you frame it perfect it will parry just like now but there will be no cd and you can hold it for a shield that breaks after a lil dmg. This would also entail adding a grab button so you could grab someone turtling with block
>>549790616I do tho?
>>549790493Yamato is a melee character.
>hybrid character There is only such thing. Last time I checked you still had gun abilities and hpuse them nigga
>Deathy doing a new tier list today>he said he's intentionally keeping Seven and Victor D tier for "undisclosed reasons"Hrmmm...Really gets the noggin joggin...
>>549791198D for Downplay Agenda
>>549791198Isn't he in the sekrit playtest? He probably knows something we don't
>>549791198Seven probably should be like low B or high C. Victor probably can stay at D to be honest.
>>549791338get your sevens in before it's too late
>>549790712Not a bad idea, which is rare for 4chan
>>549791198>>549791293Where did this meme come from?
>>549782546The map needs to stay 3 lanes but the player distribution should be 1:2:3.Two on mid, per usual, one on one side lane, and three on the other. Side lane "laning arenas" (between T1 towers) should be tinkered to fit these better.
what if the update sucks?like we all hated the midboss patch and wanted it gonethen this patch comes out and is asswhat if the next patch is somehow even worse?
>>549791198>these heroes never see comp>they also get absolutely gaped in 1v1s with the other members of their hypercarry role>le “They are very very strong but I would NEVER EVER pick or play them”can you guys stop being retarded in the midst of a gun meta
>>549792102everyone hates every update, one or two things they like then non stop complaining about changes. there is no what if, youre just wanting to rush the feeling of "new update"
>>549792102every actually big update was good imo so i have faith in them
>>549792102I like this patch thoThere will always be people upset and they will usually come here because they can vent without being down voted.
no better reward for a victory than causing some autist to seethe
>>549792771>ratfootfootrat
>>549792771
>>549792771>from deadlock alphapost flag
>>549793069
>>549638602t. shitter
>>549778735yes. I would like to see her recent private pics desu
>>549793231>anon can't dox me through deadlock because my IP address appears as being from Pittsburgh because of routing
>>549793464Post the county I live in and I will give you $200
>>549793231nice self own
Geistbros, weighted shots yes or no? Are there not better gun items she can buy?
i have 600 hours and im hard stuck ritualist
every fucking game starts with some brit or swede moaning into the mic saying the most asinine bullshit all early game only to become extremely antagonistic once we start losing
>>549790081>1/7/1 dynamo>4/12 shiv>1/6 mcgexactly what I deserve
>>549793728Her gun is good, velocity makes the headshots items pretty attractive. I love weighted shots tho, the debuff resist is great because antiheal is THE giest counter and it counters the counter
INHOUSE UPS3506S3506S3506
>>549793954Frenzy or Crippling headshot.
>>549793728For 3k Berserker is probably the best "traditional" geist gun item. Spellslinger is also fantastic but it do be 6k
>>549794131WRONG CODE SORRYS3507S3507S3507S3507
>>549794201I think Crippling is better but they both good
Friendly reminder Deadlock is getting formally announced at The Game Awards and we're getting the update next week.
>got a dynamo that rushed refresher>pressed black hole twice in a 37 minute gamethis guy was talking all game too, how do these people have 0 self awareness
>>549794478benis
>>549794478I genuinely think anyone who gives a fuck about these awards is in highschool. Also not happening.
>>549793728seconding berserker, I buy it on melee drifter it's a very cheap item that gives you a ton of damage and some resist
>>549794948>>549794948>>549794948
>>5497941316/12 InhouseS3506
>>549793821those are ivy, paige and vyper players for ya
>>549794478>a small stump is placed on the stage by a stage hand>lights dim> the deadlock logo is projected to the screen>so silent you could hear a pin drop>two shadowed figures walk to center stage, lording over the stump>spotlight kicks in>its yoshi(wearing a yoshi costume with comically oversized mallet)>the other is wearing a bag over his head with the word LEAKER on the front>yoshi kicks the leaker from behind his knee, bringing him down>you hear faint sobs comming from the bag>yoshi shoves leakers head onto the stump>stagehands equipped with plastic sheets run across the first two rows, covering the patrons>yoshi raises the hammer far above his head>SLAM>SPLAT>the leakers head explodes like a Gallagher watermelon>fade to black>thunderous applause
>>549778784>>549780546>>549781130>>549780026i think the amber hand's patron should stay as that mechanical crowned puppet thingy, i think it fits the mechanical-occultist theme and i hoped the current iteration of the throne would be further developed into a giant foundry cauldron from which the amber puppet materializes its metal form.i still dont like that amber is now gonna be some forest spirit deer guy taking over a foundry instead of being foundry-themed themselves :/
>>549793728Berserker is her best gun item bar none. Weighted shots is good but more situational. I buy frenzy AND spirit armour so weighted would be overkill but if you need more spirit/debuff resist get it. Its damage is good and unconditional
>>549795081No it's somehow always sinclair or bebop or something else detrimental to winning a game of deadlock
>>549780026Isn't that still just phase 1? There's always the chance it takes on a new form in its weakened state.
>>549791198deathy needs to kill himself
