Vic edition >What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others./crpgg/ is not for low quality posts about your romantic attraction to characters, voice actors, or avataring. >Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>549447059Thread Question: What will larian's next crpg be?
>new Divinity by Larian
>>549537690He's hot. How much of a psychopath is he.
>>549537690Wasteland 3 needed more evil companions.
>>549537690I just want them to actually finish Fallen Heroes. Xcom + Divinity was a wet dream of mine an age ago.
>>549537690why does he look indian ?
>TQ has nothing to do with picture>shit comment about waifus copiedshit edition
You guys ready for Origins Remaster?
>>549538236that's a faux indian look from bronzer and black male eyeliner
>>549537690>go to sleep early to wake up early and play vidya fresh like a goodboy>keep doing one more turn till 2 am, wake up groggy and not play vidya at all in the morningwhy am I like this
>>549538485lol thats never happening
>>549538485Yeah this doesn't make sense>Inquisition seal, barely relevant in Origins>Generic monster design>Generic monster design
>>549537690>What will larian's next crpg be40k crpg game by Larian would hilarious, but I doubt GW would ever agree on this.
40k lariancomplete kinogoty againowlcat commits mass suicide
Larian doesnt have the skills required to make a good 40k game, the only thing they beat owlcat in is graphics.
How much longer until froggy comes back so this general can actually start talking about crpgs again instead of havinag a console war about studios?
Larian Warhammer Fantasy about dwarves scaven orks and lizardmen tho
RT was good because it had that Russian writing touch, Larian is only capable of Whedonisms and funny talking animals
>>549537690More like BASED edition
>>549539339>imblying Froggy isn't a proponent of that tooOwltranimal
>>549539339your boyfriend is not crpg
>>549537690Was he meant to look like an unholy mix of David Tennant and Ralph Fiennes?
>>549539478owlcat games have plenty of marvelisms too
>>549539339When Dark Heresy
Black geyser has the most fun rtwp combat EVER
>>549538016Makes maraturd look like a baby bitch
>>549539761name one example
>>549539904literally any line from nenio
>>549539065And combat. And encounter design. And exploration. And environment design. And multiplayer design. Basically everything that makes a CRPG replayable Larian is god tier in, which is why they're #1. The only problem being that they need to fire their entire writing staff.
>>549539339When Dark Heresy or any other reasonably hyped crpg releases
>>549539862tyranny mogs high diff
>>549539862I do think more games should copy its spell scaling system.
Styg was right larian and owlcat are both woke trash.
>>549539645mine is however
>>549540494Who?
>>549540617Underrail guy
>>549539998dubass retard
>>549540495Pigeons do not count as boyfriends, I'm sorry.
>>549539478>RT was good because it had that Russian writing touchlol, lmao, no. The writing was mid tier at best with bunch of asspulls, act 5 is just stupid. The setting carries on the entire game, especially since RT gameplay is a bugged mess. Owlkeks regularly break it after each DLC or patch, in-game balance is shit and all translations except Russian sound weird at best.
>>549540684eugh not again
>>549540854Does owlcat even write their game in Russian first anymore
nobody gives a shit about Underrail you faggot stop acting like the "Underrail guy" is a celebrity
There is zero proof owlcat is actually Russian, I think they are just faking it.
>>549541117>please stop mentioning that other crpgs exist, only talk about owlshit and lariancrap forever
549541117uh oh melty
I've never succeded in the act 5 nekron check in rogue trader
>>549540494styg is also a slavic homosexual so his opinions doesn't mean much
>>549541319you can mention other crpgs that nobody played I don't carebut don't act like your irrelevant celeb is on the level of just saying Todd and everyone knows who that is you don't need to explain he's the "Bethesda guy"
I just got done with the legend of amberland 3 demo, they seem to have fixed the armor scaling and added elemental weapons. Its definitely a very clear step up from 2.
>>549541010Yes
Jae is bae
>>549541685>that nobody played I don't careUh oh melty, please tell us more about how you dont care.
>>549539339He's on /twg/ atm since new WH DLC
>>549541169Nobody considers owlcat true russians.
>>549541893yeah it's only me who doesn't care not the previous 1000 threads that have never discussed undershit
549542145owltrannimal lies
>>549542145Please make another post about how much you and nobody else cares, keep going.
More games should copy underrails effective skill system.
Bg3 did call of duty numbers while underrail is a shit game only played by mega autist.
underrail 2 switching to pseudo rtwp is a mistake
Most game devs have never heard of underrail which is surprising considering its immense renown
Sawyer is the __________ guy
HOT TAKE! black geyser has better balance and combat than pillars.
Darven is a cool guy
I thought Solaste was sci-fi slop, you are telling me it's fantasy themed?
>>549543442It's the other DnD game. Did you confuse Solasta for the Expanse?
the beauty of Solasta
I only ever see people talk about underrail to shit on other games
>>549543781Meds.
looking back why did so many people crowdfund pillars of eternity? looked like a kickstarter scam from the start
>>549543537I think I mixed it up with both Stellaris and Homeworld for some reason don't ask me how or why
>>549543889I would love it if you actually posted about underrail instead of console wars autism btw
I only ever see people talk about solasta to shit on other games.
>>549543908CRPGs pretty much died around the 10s with the last one being like what, NWN2? It being shilled as some revival got people to throw money at it. Same thing with DOS1, and the reaction was so extreme that Swen dropped Dragon Commander to work on that instead.
Anyone who isnt talking about one of the bigger crpgs studios is doing it to be a contrarian.>OOOH LOOK THIS SMALLER GAME DOES THESE LITTLE THINGS BETTER IT SHITS ON ALL THE BIG STUDIOS
>>549543908Tourist
A great deal of games should copy that thing from underrail. I'm not going to expand on that because it's obviously done very well in underrail while most games suck at that thing. But if games took that lesson to heart, they could be a little more like underrail, the best crpg ever made.
>>549544110They haven't died. They've only transformed into a group of mentally ill catboy trannies in the baldur's gate general
>>549544301>anyone who isn't eating turds is doing it to be a contrarianNo, we simply don't like shit in our mouth, unlike you apparently
>>549544559anon goes to general that talks about shit 99% of the timeanon gets upset and decides to talk about undershit instead
Solasta SHITS on bg3.
Underrail is a solid 7.8/10
I imagine Jae celebrating every successful trade by dragging some disheveled lower deck boy into a room and bouncing her fat brown ass on him until he hears the words HIGH MOMENTUM” and uses his heroic action to cum. All behind a romanced RT’s back.
>>549541169They're in Cyprus.
this general sucks when it comes to posting images>80 replies>8 images1 meme, 1 shitpost, 1 reaction, 1 space marine dressed like schoolgirl, 1 meme, 1 guy named darven, 1 reaction, 1 ugly cat
>>549544828>Anon goes to general that talks about crpgs>Anon talks about Underrail which is a crpg>Shit eaters get upsetLooks like you're the one with the problem. I don't care if people discuss pathfinder or dos, or whatever. If I want to talk about underrail I will, because that's what the general if for. No amount of your seething and screeching is gonna change that
>>549545756When are you going to talk about underrail, though?
>>549545350Very specific fantasy anon. I hope your peepee didn't get too erect
I had a feeling it could be divinity, since it's about the right time for them to tease something for their current project. Pretty exciting
>>549545834People talk about Underrail occasionally. Usually it's about build adive, or about specific areas. It has never caused any seething except for you right now. No, I will not be posting proof, because you can find it in the archive yourself if you're that obssessed
About to try out Expiditions Rome. What am I in for?
>>549545756>>Anon talks about Underrail Where? All I see is empty wanking about how its effective skill system is so great >>549542595
>>549546159Kino, boobies and some great characters
>>549546708Sawyer was right, crpgs these days are just about pandering to the male fantasy
Everyone should copy BG3's sex system
>>549546281If you're incapable of even finishing reading the post to the end then don't bother replying. Your mental deficiency is showing
>>549546887>I don't care if people discuss pathfinder or dos, or whatever. but you're agreeing with the shitposter who calls them shit? getting mixed signals here
>>549543908Another "scam" just means something I don't like poster
>>549546808Rome IS pandering to the male fantasy but not because of boobies. It could have had no boobies whatsoever and it would still be the greatest male fantasy in the world because you fight for Rome, you take on Rome, and you bring it to its knees. Veni, Vidi, Vici.
>>549546159Bestia and Julia soloing the game
>>549546808>we live in a world where full, sumptuous tittes are a bad thingreset the simulation
I dont like how larian somehow made the 5e system even easier. Why is there no strength requirement for heavy armor,why does having a free hand not matter at all when spell casting, why does food/survival not matter at all?
>>549546708>>549546808>>549547301Reminder everyone besides faggots and pretentious retards loved boobs, including women.
>>549547787>food/survival>mattering in 5e
>>549547820When I play the Rome game someday I will pick the big booby lady and romance the gilf
>>549547295It was really unfortunate that the class balance for Rome was so subpar, Veles >>>>>>>>>>>> everything else.
>>549546098The biggest news in the industry? No, we're discussing which games let us be contrarians the most, and which games have boobs.
>>549547820it's not about boobs being bad, it's just that it cheapens the game and makes it look like a weg
>>549548106I'd say veles archers and the spear line of the staff class are all very strong. I remember veles leaning a lot on one specific OP item.
>>549548347your ancestors did not fear full breasted women. why do you, virgin?
>>549548129nobody cares about your shilling about a game we don't even have a trailer or teaser for you retard
>>549548461Veles do not need the Spear Of Achilles to dominate, it just makes them come online very early if you get it since you can get Reaper super early, spec into Marathon and legitimately solo most maps with Sneak Attack+Amphora, nothing will even get to move before dying. Sagittarius is not anywhere near as strong as that, and Triarchus is good, but mainly it's good because it is part of the Veles combo since you want the +20% damage on the Veles before they go on their killing spree. Still the second best class after Veles just because they're useful at killing boss threats due to their armor shred but they're not really necessary even then since you can just stack pilums on everyone and handle high armor targets that way. Plus a properly built Veles doesn't give a fuck about the armor anyway since they're doing 40-50 damage a hit.
>>549548564All iconic crpg waifus have small titties thoughever
>>549548912then get a blanket WHORE
>>549548129Yeah I'm used to this place being pretty one note. Oh well. There are other places to actually talk about crpg with people who actually like crpg.
>>549546098I've seen like 20 different things CONFIRMED for that stupid statue. Come back when they post an actual trailer.
>>549546159Don’t pick Gladiator class for your protagonist it’s a very gimmicky class that relies on gear RNG. Slaves are worth good money and you don’t really use them for much so whenever you have a surplus of slaves sell some for some quick cash. Upgrade the blacksmith asap so you can upgrade and customize gear. Julia is best girl. Ignore Cato. Fuck Cleopatra (literally). Cross the Rubicon and march on Rome and become Emperor.
Best Rome ending is crossing the Rubicon to make a point and then just leaving because fuck Rome.
>>549549881>fuck Rome.Hannibal...
>>549549409Gladiators best use is speccing into the Provocator class and causing mass morale routs, which is easy as fuck if you set them up right. The other two trees are a joke, Murmilos are a poor mans Princeps and Retiarius are a complete fucking meme that are a waste of skill points to spec into.
>>549549881Nah becoming Emperor really is great, you subjugate or kill all your foes and become the beloved ruler of all Rome while Cato seethes in exile in Egypt and the rest of your companions live it up as your trusted retainers. Good times.
>>549537690How do I do the bogdan/slavomir quest properly? I took care of Bogdan and found the notes in his residence, but I can't tell Vivian about the notes. Do I need to find slavomirs body or talk to someone specific?
Also the tomboy gives you kids, the gladiator chick doesn’t. I think Cleopatra’s ending shows kids too. I know there are some breederfags here who care about that stuff
Only Tau waifus can save Dark Heresy
>>549550598Deianera didn't get to have children because she was available as both a female and male romance option. Julia and Cleopatra were for men only, so the writers were free to have them give the protagonist children.
what a weird ass logo
>>549548347>boobs: exist>some tranny on a botsawanian cheetah chasing forum: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>549549409>Ignore CatoCato is cool
>>549550618Reminder that the only difference between tau men and women is the nose slit
>>549551164looks like a vagina
>>549551164I wonder how many people realize this is likely a Divinity reboot and not a sequel to DOS2. >>549551424He's a proponent of a system he has watched fail over and over in front of his very eyes, he's a moron.
>>549552580>Divinity rebootI remember way back when it was called The Lady, the Mage and the Knight and was based on the Black Eye roleplaying system. I was so excited for it, and then it turned into the first Divinity and I lost all interest for whatever reason.
>>549552803I mean The Dark Eye and it turned into Divine Divinty.
>chaste skeleton wife >have to let an ugly bastard take her virginity to get a human bodyLAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIAN!!!!!!!!!!
>>549553104>here, let me put lipstick on my teeth real quickdumb bitch
>plasteel is plentiful, don't extract it unless the planet offers a million bajillion!>me with infinite adamantine and flogiston and 1 plasteel
rapeplaying games
>>549553104If you want spoilers: She gets him so drunk that he passes out and sleeps the whole night. And since the exact wording was just "spend the night with her" technically it's fulfilled and he leaves absolutely fuming about it.It'd still require you to agree to whore out your wife though. You don't learn she tricked him until after the fact.
>>549553104You have to work to get here yourself so why the fuck are you there?
>>549553104how does she have boobs
>>549554303Padding, like genuinely. I think it's actual fruits that she uses? Been awhile.
>>549554303breasts bones
>>549554303
>>549554520cute
>>549553983>You have to work to get here yourself so why the fuck are you there?What
>>549553620>actually falling for the story Ophelia sells you to make you feel betteranon...I am joking, she truly is best girl, although if you picked that option you don't deserve her anyways
I wanna smooch her.
>>549556135I truly cannot understand how there are people who like this character. There are many characters that I don't like, but I fully respect the people who do enjoy them, but not this one.
>>549556808She's a realistic depiction of a pure psychopath and a well done subversion of the 'I can fix her' trope. Plus she's hot and one of the best most versatile and useful party members. Just open your heart to her anon.
>>549557157>she's hotthe other stuff (lies) weren't necessary
I finally managed to get a character out of the rogue trader tutorial without wanting to restartYay
>>549556808>Cannot rub two braincells to figure out as to why people like evil horny womanOf all the female characters in WOTR, she's by far the easiest to explain.
>>549557157>she's hot>mid asian elf
>>549557362Camfags don't even like the version of Cam you get in the actual game though
>>549557157>well done subversion of the 'I can fix her' trope>you thought you could fix her? nope lol>well done
>>549558403Name another waifu that is truly evil and stays evil and you cannot fix her in any way.
>>549558403Unironically yeah. I wouldn't really call it "well done" though since she's so blatantly evil and lies about it to you that it's a dull surprise once she mentions she's lying about the spirits.
>>549558489elvira grey
>>549558489Jae. Conveniently written by the same author, too.
>>549558489it's a subversion but it's not well donea well done subversion would be exploring why some people can't change and the "I can fix her" trope is naivejust telling you "no" when you expect something isn't a well done subversion
>>549552580
>>549558835>Jae>EvilGlowies out. This piece of paper says that trading xenos shit is perfectly legal
>>549558489Merill, from Dragon Age 2, she stays a demon contracting Blood Mage regardless of what you do. The best you can manage is keeping her from slaughtering her entire tribe and she really is angry at you for it.
>>549558109Wait, so camtards are just yrlitards? Amazing
>>549558942>Had to specifically call it DOS3What is Swen doing over there.
>>549558942but didn't the stupid shill just call it the>The biggest news in the industry?
>>549558403It's interesting in the sense that she just exists to bait 'I can fix her' waifufags but they forgot that waifufags will just headcanon her entire character and mod her to be a normal waifu anyway.
>>549558978>Xister, you shouldn't bring this nuke to your house, it's very dangerous and endangers not just you, but everyone around you too>REEEEEE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT REEEEEEEEThe most unlikeable bitch in the entirety of dragon age
>>549559107It's because OS is a different series than Divinity and they are actually making a new Divinity game.
>>549558835Not evil. Not actively murdering people for fun as a way of life. Trading with xenos is not evil.>>549558978Not evil. If she was actually doing blood sacrifices for her magic, that would count. But she doesn't. And there is not reason to believe she would not stop after finishing her clan.
>>549559230It's funny how Fenris ended up being 100% right about both her and Anders.
>>549559230because history is not full of good people doing bad things with the right intentions
>>549559435Fenris was based
>>549558489Minthara duh?She stays with you all the way, is uber loyal, and will never stop being evil
>>549559379Merill is absolutely Evil, dude, with a capital E, how in fuck do you think anything she does is fine or acceptable in any way? The fact she acts cute and sheltered doesn't change the fundamental reality of her actions. She's a fucking monster who will and does commit any level of crime and atrocity in order to achieve her ambition.
>>549559375Yeah that's my point, even Fallen Heroes was specifically not called 3.
>>549559570how is Minthara evil? like, she's not murdering random people for laughs and she actively resents murderhobos so if anything she's a saint compared to CamCam
>>549559584Merill is not evil. What she does is questionable, but it's not evil.
I hope that swen will add more companions with hair pussies
>>549559375It's going to be a divinity CRPG which is what matters.They are probably taking the opportunity to soft reboot to try to attract their newly found larger audience.
It's a Divinity Looter Shooter
>>549559759It is absolutely evil. Completely and totally. And she gets a bunch of innocent people killed doing it, and she's not even sorry about it and blames them for not supporting her more instead. She is a fucking sociopath that does not value life and only cares about achieving her goal at all costs, regardless of who it hurts or even kills. The fact you somehow think she's not evil is mind boggling.
>>549559891There's nothing to indicate it's going to be another crpg. They've shifted genres almost every other game.
>>549559759Just because she acts all cutesy like a 50 iq retard doesn't make her not evil
>>549560062It is not her intention to kill people. That's the core difference between her and Cam.
>>549559891You do know that the Divinity series is an ARPG series and not a CRPG series, right?
>>549559707Minthara's ideal ending with you is mind controlling everyone else and ruling the world together with an iron fist.Hell she was even completely on board with you siding with the lord of murder until the very last second when she realized that it meant she was going to be murdered as well.She is evil.She is just not a creature controlled by her primal desires like Cam is.It's the difference between lawful evil and chaotic evil.If anything Minthara might be more evil since all the evil she does is her choice and not a consequence of severe schizophrenia.
>>549560062is this an AI chat that's arguing for the sake of arguing? where exactly in the game does she get people killed and not feel sorry about it?
>>549560193She deliberately disregards the consequences of her actions (and possible consequences) because she considers her ambition and ideas more important than other peoples fucking LIVES and you think because she's not actively planning to kill them, but simply doesn't care whether they live or die as long as she achieves her goals, she's not Evil? Get out of here man.
>>549538016Marazhai would be scared of him
>>549560271The divinity series does have a single genre, or do you think dragon commander is an ARPG?
>>549560185There is "bad" and "evil". The "bad" may be sociopathic, he may do thing that lead to shitty outcomes. But he's not actually going murderhobo for funsies. The "evil" on the other side is doing exactly that. Like hunting wild niggers in savana. Like genociding christians because they are unfaithful. Like serial killing her boyfriends.
>>549560271Divinity has been an>ARPG>ARPG>ARPG but 3d>RTS + Risk + Dating sim>TBRPG>TBRPG>CRPGUp next should be a DRPG.
>>549560390Did you not do her final quest (friendship version) where she gets her entire tribe killed and then blames them for everything rather than admitting she was wrong?
>>549541010Yeah, you can tell that it's translated russian. It has that strange indirect way of speaking that you can't quite put your finger on. It's not exactly verbosity, but it's like they talk around the point rather than coming to it directly.
>>549560492Yep. That makes her much less evil than Camellia. Like starting a war in middle east does mean that you disregard human lives. But that doesn't make you mass murderer.
>>549560151>their last three games are CRPGs>they haven't made anything else in over a decade >the game everyone knows them for and made them a ton of money is a CRPGYeah no reason to think it's going to be another CRPG
>>549543908It presented itself as the long-awaited return of infinity engine style crpgs. REAL crpgs.
>>549560749excited about Owlcat's next scifi crpg, the Expanse
>>549541585You mean the one with the two pillars? It tells some backstory. I think you need to have translated the language using the cogitator in the other ruin first
Divinity Kart
>>549560748But we're talking about Evil alignment as defined in fantasy games, primarily D&D since that's where the alignment system came from, and Merill is 100% NE, the fact she's not CE like Cam does not make her a Good or even Neutral character. Evil can be more than a psychopathic serial killer, that's just one form of it.
>>549560646>where she gets her entire tribe killednot exactly. Hawke and Merill are forced to kill the tribe - unless you call Merill a retard and take the responsibility for her, then they'll just let you go.
Divinity: DivinationDivinity: DinersDivinity: Diving SpreeDivinity: Dividing for Dummies
>>549561115I was not talking about that. Alignment system is retarded.
DnD was a mistake.
>>549560646everything she does for her tribe is because she cares for them, so to somehow extrapolate that as a disregard for life in general means you're an AI bot or something equally soulless
>>549561187The whole reason you're forced to kill her tribe is because Merill won't stop with her insane ambition which causes the Keeper who loves her like a daughter to let the Demon possess her instead to show Merill what was going to fucking happen. Merills response to this is to blame the Keeper and say she could've handled it just fine and that her work was too important to stop no matter the cost. Arrogant, selfish, uncaring sociopath. But hey she acts cute and silly in some of her dialogues so let's just ignore that whole part of her characterization.
>>549561187When I played the game for the first time I told her to fuck off after finishing her first quest and never talked to her again. For some reason she never disappeared from the game and was still treated as a companion and a friend despite the fact that I never did any of her other quests
>>549561262Then what ARE you talking about, since the entire reply chain was centered on whether or not other romance interests outside of Cam in CRPGs are Evil, and irredeemably so?
Evil is when demons.
>>549561478But she doesn't care about them compared to how much she cares about her mad ambition to restore the Mythals. She disregards her people in order to chase her own ambition and obsession no matter the cost. That is absolutely evil, dude.
>>549561750Yes "evil" but in general meaning of that word. Not in alignment based one. Merill is definitely evil in alignment system because there is no proper place for her there. But she's not truly evil.
>>549561903Evil or just plain ol' autism?I can never tell
>>549561750The camfag thinks Minthara is good just because she isn't a pleasure obsessed psycho like his waifu, don't bother anymore
>>549562149You're just being ridiculous at this point, you flat out admit she would be Evil in the D&D alignment system but then go on to say she's not really "evil" because she's not quite as bad as something like Cam, is that it? That's retarded, that's like saying someone can't be Good aligned if they aren't as virtuous as Superman.
>>549561903You can care about people and hurt them while being well-intentioned. This is the basis of many tragedies. And speaking about Merrill specifically, the character is clearly written to have a good heart so reading her as evil in any sense of the word is asinine and just to waste time.
>>549562446Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think that "dnd evil" actually means egoistic, while "dnd good" is altruistic. And "just evil'" means being an intentional murderer. I was asking a question, is there any waifu that is a fucking irredeemable murderer. But you understand it as "is there any waifu that is dnd evil". My bad, I chose wrong words.
>>549562776She isn't well intentioned though, she's hyper focused and obsessed with the Mythals to the point she disregards and flat out runs over the moral standards of her people and the world at large, which naturally results in horrible tragedy. She put her own selfish desires and ambitions over the lives of others and disregarded moral constraints every single step of the way. She is absolutely evil.>>549562797Merill is an irredeemable murderer, though, dude. She slaughters her entire tribe, the fact she had "good intentions" doesn't change the reality of what she does, if anything it makes it worse.
>>549559218There last game did COD numbers, it is some of the biggest news in the industry.
>>549563021>She put her own selfish desires and ambitions over the lives of othersShe wasn't aware she was doing that though
>>549563021Merill doesn't kill if you don't allow her. While Cam was killing before you met her, is killing during our adventure and will be killing if left alive. Do you really see no difference here?
>I wasn't aware murder is bad so its okay
I want Jae ASMR.
>>549559707Now that you mention it Minty doesn't actually do evil stuff after you recruit her. Sure, she approves when you do it, but only verbally.She's just an unfinished companion.
So how much longer until owlcat announces their urban fantasy game?
It's not evil if you're blackout drunk
>>549563323What evil does Astarion do on his own exactly?Companions don't tend to do a lot of stuff on their own you know
>>549563507He's a vampire isn't he? Intrinsically evil.
>>549563483>urban fantasy quite an undeveloped setting in the gaming scene. I can only think of vampire the masquerade on top of my head
>>549563206You're just repeating the "not as virtuous as Superman therefore not Good aligned" malarky but in reverse once again.
>>549563668C77 if you squint, and if that counts a fair bit of others do now as well.
CONSPIRACY THEORY! owlcat is making a delta green game.
>>549563738>>549563648So are drow for the most part
>>549563206>Merill doesn't kill if you don't allow herThis isn't as good of an argument as you think it is. It just paints her like a retarded cunt that needs to be constantly controlled lest she starts killing
>>549563507Astarion does the ritual thingy unless you persuade him.Shadowheart kills the daeva unless you persuade her.Etc.Generally every original companion does something in their story that you can influence.Minthara has nothing.
>>549563648By that logic, Merill is a Blood Mage, also intrinsically evil.
>>549563507kills the G*r hunter by stabbing him in the eyeliterally fucking murders your when you say just a bite and nothing youpressures you to deal with a fucking devil just because he needs his back tattoos readkills 7 billion of his fellows to become supreme evil vampire dicklord
>>549563894Hawkebros...
>>549563825yeah, that's pretty much Merrill
>>549563738No that's just sci-fi, or just cyberpunk if you believe that to be it's own thing.If it is urban fantasy then the term is completely meaningless.
>>549563809What?>Look it upWhat?
>>549563935Canon Hawke is a Rogue.
Hype status?
>>549563879Minthara tried to burn the grove, that it happens before you recruit her doesn't matter since that's still part of her story.Astarions whole ascended vampire thing was more because of his own insecurity than any kind of evil intent anyways.
>>549564150FISHPOSTER? IN MY /crpgg/?
>>549563809Would be a good way to build on the investigation minigame from DH
>>549560749their last three games are ARPGs>they haven't made anything else in over a decade>the game everyone knows them for and made them a ton of money is an ARPGYeah no reason to think it's going to be another ARPG
>>549563879Minthara once used archive.md to bypass the paywall of a news site.
>>549564093Canon hawke is a blood mage that got isabella's stds
>>549564208>Astarions whole ascended vampire thing was more because of his own insecurity than any kind of evil intent anyways.While you may argue that being an ascended vampire isn't inherently evil (it's not like those thralls are gonna have a good life anyway) he does plenty of petty evil shit throughout the game
>>549563879I have NEUTRAL approval with Astarion (almost never brought him anywhere and the few times I did he always had minior disapproval)I said hey what about these people?? And he instantly folded and didnt do the ritual
>>549564093Carver is a much more interesting sibling compared too Bethany and it fits better for the story when Hawke is a mage because of the resentment your brother have towards you and his mother ( she's a disgusting mage lover and tainted your bloodline)Warden from DA:O is an elf from alienage in the "canon" as well. It's just very boring compared too human noble background and not getting Morrigan pregnant that mellows her out a bit in DA:I. Bioware just likes to have the most boring canon choices for their dogshit comics that they released between the games
>>549564554Minthara once finished downloading an obscure torrent and then refused to seedMinthara once refused to round up her walmart total for a donation that would have helped feed hungry kidsShe's extremely evil
Played around with photoshop some more. How does this look for the Exile?>what's with the bitch faceIt's the way TORtanic's models rig to KOTOR's engine. They look perpetually angry. It's kind of funny, especially for LS.
>>549565079That's like, your opinion, man. Meanwhile Bethany is the best companion in all of DA2, so yeah, your opinion is WRONG, man, WRONG.
>>549565079>Warden from DA:O is an elf from alienage in the "canon" as well.Wrong. Dalish elf is the default world state in Inquisition
>>549563894No, because blood magic isn't intrinsically evil. Just like necromancy isn't intrinsically evil and you can have good necromancers.
>>549565079Warden is a dalish elf in “canon” and by canon you mean it’s the default worldstate because it’s meant to be the most generic option with the least amount of callbacks for newfags.
Carver's just really fucking boring though. What does he have actually? At least Bethany has her mage concerns.
>>549558489Jaesa and kaylio from swtor. jaesa you have to manipulate her into being evil, but once she is, she's actually pretty bad and stays that way. And Kaylio is just a degenerate in a multitude of ways and stays that way from day 1 forever.There's also Minthara. She's evil, and does not become Good during the game, even if you are.Morinth.>>549559707Compared to Cam, sure. But that's not a very precise criteria. Minthara is Evil alignment because of her lifestyle and ambitions, what she has done in the past and what she plans to do in the future. What she is willing to do to accomplish these goals.>>549560372"I don't have violent urges, I have violent intentions" is a good line and explains Minthara's style of evil vs Cam's style of evil.It's worth noting that Minthara isn't very evil, all things considered though. Her idea of the role of the press is exactly what every irl government does. Her ideas on immigration are completely reasonable and are what a lot of irl nations throughout history have already been doing. She doesn't murder anyone that doesn't stand in her way, and if it were up to her, she wouldn't murder anyone, she's just willing to.Her ideal ending at first is gaining control of the cult, but if you end the game with her romanced and you destroy the brain, she ends up being happy about it because you get to conquer the old fashioned way instead of using a quasi-deity cheat. Every policy she actually lays out how she would rule things is just standard lawful-evil monarchy stuff, nothing out of the ordinary for dnd/pathfinder/fiction, and has worked perfectly fine in several examples. She even says she would surround herself with qualified persons to make the country run well and make everyone adore her, she's not even looking to abuse the populace like some lawful-evil rules. She's the kind of evil that most people wouldn't actually mind.
>>549565572>Bethany has her mage concerns.No she doesn't lol. She joins the circle and everything is fucking peachy. She has no chemistry with any of the companions. She's one of the worst companions in dragon age
>>549565627
>>549565750At least that's something, what does Carver have?
>>549565572He has real tension with the rest of the family?
>>549565403>best companion = biggest titslmao>>549565874Sibring rivarry and liking Merrill
>>549565447>it’s meant to be the most generic option with the least amount of callbacks for newfags.None of the origins have any callbacks in inquisition. Dalish isn't any more generic than all the other ones
>>549541010Yes thats where most of the data mine info comes from because they remove it for English version alpha and betaOn plus side, the plot for Dark Heresy is pretty much taken from an AP so they will have a skeleton to use. I feel they should have used the Rogue Trader APs instead of their original story.
>>549565079>>549565417So does Morrigan not have a kid in the default state?
>>549565447>>549565417my bad, early onset dementia
>>549565572Hes not nice to you, actually a cunt. I have a brother so I can understand the sibling resentment.
>>549566067It matters when Alistair or Morrigan talks about them. It's "something".
>>549565874>At least that's somethingThat is literally fucking nothing. She's not worried about anything, she just exists like an amoeba>what does Carver have?Inferiority complex, sibling rivalry which explored plenty. Excellent banter with varric
Is the expeditions team still around? After their original studio turned to NFTs, some broke away snd made a new studio and then that studio shut down apparently?
>>549566085No. The Dalish warden did the big sacrifice. It makes sense so Bioware never had to use the Warden again.
>>549565982>and liking MerrillFor real? I don't remember anything like that
>>549563507That's a bad example because Astarion actually will conduct the Black Mass if you actually leave it up to him lol. In general yes companions in games don't make their own decisions, but Astarion in bg3 is an exception. One of the cool things about bg3 and one of the reasons it's the game of the decade is that you actually can unironically say "It's not my place to decide" in lots of the companion questlines, and they all have either a default choice they will make, or the game will check another system like accumulated nightsong points to make the decision.>>549563668ShadowrunNew Arc LineArcanumSecret WorldBlade>>549564208Minthara was influenced by the Absolute to burn the grove. When you ask Minthara about killing them, she says killing people like that is a waste of time and resources and draws attention to yourself. She's actually very anti-murderhobo. The Absolute wanted the grove dead, not her. Part of being tadpoled is that you lose track of the difference between what you want and what the Absolute wants.
>>549566448He has a crush on Merrill.
>>549566307At least they didn't try to pull any bs like Alistair fucking Morrigan being canon.I don't put it beyond them at all to pull some bullshit like that.
>>549566153They will talk about you regardless. It has nothing to do with your origin
>>549566291https://campfirecabal.com/still-alive/
>>549566067It was also one of the defaults in DA2
>>549566519
>>549566572Funny
>>549566519Arcanum is not urban fantasy at all lmao
>>549560602Dragon rpg has been done too
>>549566572Yet another reason he is worse
>>549566085the kid isn't mention at all in DA:V and he was mostly fixed in DA:I anyway by Flemeth>>549566307>It makes sense so Bioware never had to use the Warden againI get why it make sense, but I also hate it because HoF trying to find a cure for the Blight slowly consuming him could've been really cool and interesting thing but as with everything DA:V it was scrapped in development
>>549566778Did you cuck your little brother? He does get mad at you for that.
>>549566968I meant Dungeon RPG but that counts as well.
>>549566067Mage does with Cullen. Also if you romanced Leliana as a female mage she makes fun of him for asking about her.
>>549565437Both of your statements are false, both practices are inherently evil. >>549565982>Best companion = biggest titsCan't think of a single CRPG where this was wrong, so yeah, good point.
>>549567041Of course not. Merril is garbage. DA2 didn't have good romances, so I was a volcel
>>549567187Valerie
>>549567035It would have been cool yeah. They could even say the Blight made the Warden mute so no voice actor.
>>549567358Does not have the biggest tits in the cast, yeah.
>>549567035If they’d done this k think people would’ve melted down about them hating the warden even more
>>549567643Unless you want to imply that Linzi is hiding some knockers then no. Octavia is a skinny elf and the twins don't have much in that department.
Has anyone bothered with greedfall 2?
>>549567187There's nothing intrinsically evil about either blood magic or necromancy. Both are rightfully feared because of the tendency of blood mages and necromancers to be evil pricks, but that doesn't make the source intrinsically evil. You could imagine a blood mage that uses blood magic for good, or a necromancer who uses their skill to protect the innocent or commune with the dead and bring comfort. Magic is magic. No more evil than fire, which can be used to cook food or burn people.
please don't rob and desecrate my grandma's grave just so you can have another footsoldier in your bone army
>>549567854I think Froggy did, Froggy plays pretty much any released CRPGs. He didn't talk about it a lot so it was probably not that great.
>>549567820Valerie looks flat as a board in her portrait so I have no idea why you think she's got big tits. Amiri is the character with the biggest breasts of the females in Kingmaker, by the way.
>>549568082He memes about her constitution score being high that means she has huge boobs
Swen's new game?Divinity: Original SexEarly access starts right after the announcement
>>549567874You have to make a deal with a Demon to even be able to use Blood magic to begin with. Evil by definition. They don't just have a "tendency" to be Evil pursuing Blood magic in and of itself is something only an Evil person would do. And Necromancy is always going to be Evil, there's no reason to use the dead when you could just construct a golem or summon monsters from other planes and get the same exact results without desecrating the remains of the dead.
>>549568237That makes no sense, big breasts would be a result of an amalgation of STR and CHA.
>>549568286You’re not even talking about dragon age lore anymoreWhat monsters from other planes? Demons?
>>549568435>Big breasts>STRWhat?
>>549568029>He didn't talk about it a lot so it was probably not that great.Lol, that retard talked extensively about shitguard and the game was garbage
>>549567854Yeah. I liked the first one so got it. It was neat, it played like dragon age 1 in a good way. I look forward to playing it when it's finished. I'm not a huge fan of being from the island this time to be honest but it's whatever, the story of the first one was ok so I assume if it's as good then it'll be fine.They changed the gameplay a lot.
>>549568462Did you even play the games? The way that you learn Blood magic is by contacting a Demon and learning it from them, that's in fact how Merill learned it and what started her down the road to damnation to begin with. Anders calls her out on it several times during the game. How do you not know this if you actually are familiar with the games and aren't just reading shit off a wiki?
>>549569010Oh okay you’re just illiterate and larping.
>>549568462lmao biggest self report I have seen in a while
>>549568473Big breasts cause physical pain and difficulty unless the woman in question is physically fit and able to handle it, therefore a high STR score should be requisite for female characters that have big breasts. This is why most big breasted women in fantasy are all warriors of some type, while the physically weak classes like casters are all small breasted.
>>549567854the first action game i can think of that swapped to rtwpdefinitely a "black woman speaks, you listen" type gameglad to see the towelheads are still as comically evil though
>>549569243>requisiteA woman isn't going to die if she doesn't pass the STR check to move her tits anon. You're going about this backwards.
>>549568286>You have to make a deal with a Demon to even be able to use Blood magic to begin with.Not always. You're still confusing the majority of cases with something that is always true like a law of physics.
>>549568435Unfortunately that means Valerie still wins. Why is her charisma 15
It’s clearly much more moral to make golems in dragon ageI didn’t play origins btw
>>549569357I have factual evidence on my side. Find me a CRPG female with big tits and they are always a physical class, casters always have small tits, therefore either STR or DEX would be the prime physical stat needed for big breasts, since casters often pump CON yet still have small breasts. And I would argue STR is more likely than DEX since the DEX females that have big breasts are generally still melee fighters of some kind.
>>549566667The banner is titled Sunstone Teaser>The sunstone (Icelandic: sólarsteinn) is a type of mineral attested in several 13th–14th-century written sources in Iceland, one of which describes its use to locate the Sun in a completely overcast sky. Sunstones are also mentioned in the inventories of several churches and one monastery in 14th–15th-century Iceland and Germany.>The recovery of a piece of Iceland spar from an Elizabethan ship that sank near Alderney in 1592That looks like a 16th century ship to me. Expeditions: Elizabethan Era
>>549567874I know DA isn't Warhammer, but I do appreciate how honest the world of 40K and Fantasy are when it comes to their version of mages compared too DA. If you have somebody that can potentially set of a literal nuke on a city or even a planet by accident because an evil demon from another plane whispered in your ear, I get why people will treat you with disdain and want nothing to do with you>>549568462almost all cases of blood magic comes from mages doing deals with evil spirits from the fade and necromancy is using spirit from the fade by force most of the time (I know Nevarra is the exception), your mother in DA2 is a sentient walking frankenstein corpse that is kept alive by both necromancy and blood magic
>>549569691>Find me a CRPG female with big titsI-I can't!
>>549569891Jae from RT. Isabela from DA2
>>549569891Isabella from DA2. Imoen from Baldurs Gate.Annah from Planescape: Torment.Leliana from Dragon Age: Origins.Jeanette from VtMB.Every single female in Expeditions: Rome.I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.
>>549569994I must apologise, my standards are a bit higher than that. Both of them are "average". Also both are rogueish classes though
>>549569823So you’re saying there are exceptions?
>>549569994>JaeSeems like jaetards are really itching for a win after the humiliation they suffered today
>>549550267anyone?
>>549567874I think every enemy mage is a blood mageYou can also side with the mages in DA2 and they all promptly turn to blood magic and trigger a boss fight
>>549570409we don't discuss underrail, the best crpg ever made, hereit's a rogue trader and sometimes dragon age general
>>549550267>>549570409You gotta give more than that anon, I don't remember much from the quests especially the names. >Look it up on the wikiDon't you just kill the guy?
>>549570409You can't tell her about the notes. You just complete the quest after killing him, the notes are just added fluff that has no impact.
>>549569210Do people here even read the posts they’re replying to?
>>549570709nvm then>>549570808.
>>549570409I didnt play it but after looking around steam forums it seems that dealing with Bogdan himself seems to be the main part and potentially the incriminating evidence is optional (also someone says you can report it to Vivian and others say they can't. Could be bugged)
>>549570296>jaetardsthose don't exist
>>549570409Haven’t played it but have you looked under the rails?
if necromancy is evil why can I be a necromancer in bg2 who saves the world
All my skeletons are made of donated bodies actually
>>549570217I don't think that one special case outweighs the negative traits that blood magic and necromancy carries, DA:O and DA2 kinda beats you over the head with how awful blood magic is, Hawke's mother is literally getting turned into a sentient fucktoy by that blood mage trying to recreate his deceased wife
Do you think Yrliet was at Jae's orgy too, just to see what all the fuss was about mon'keigh sex?
>>549572072you are one of the good ones
>>549572072You're saving it despite yourself
Jae has floppy brown worn out army girl hag titties btw.
>>549572429I mean an entire country managing it is a bit more than one special case. Kirkwall is also like the comically awful outlier that makes every faction look bad.
>>549572072If the world ends then no more new souls to play with.
Say where you are from and you favorite crpg.Congo WOTR
Playing the first Greedfall right now and while it's definitely janky as fuck it's oddly comfy. I like that my character is actually trying to take his job seriously. And I also like that the natives aren't portrayed as the automatic opressed good guys, they're kind of assholes too. Same with the arab faction who are shady as fuck.
Crpg where breast size = magical power
>>549575217Delicious
I'm doing my first playthrough of Rogue Trader and just loaded in to the boss fight on Thassera against the fool, the psyker, all the stone guardians, etc. Before I started playing, I had heard that on unfair, the game is very hard until the start of Act 2 then it gets real easy, but I'm having the opposite experience. The game was easy as fuck in Act 1, and in Act 2 so far I've dealt with quite a few very difficult encounters. I haven't tried this fight yet but it looks damn near unwinnable. I'm level 32, so maybe I'm underleveled.
>>54957935332 should be fine for that point. Sounds like your builds are fucked. Go back to the ship and ask for training from Janris, that's how you respec
I hope one of the romances for Dark heresy is a hive scum slut.
>>549581767Nah I spoke too soon the fight was easy, even on unfair. I'm a little bit of a brainlet, though, who is Maive's real brother? She seems to hold an attachment towards the fool, but the fool said something like "If someone is going to turn against you the moment there's a knife at his sister's throat, you need to eliminate him" which seems to reference the fake governor who welcomed the party to the planet. Why does Maive care about the fool if the fake governor is her real brother?
>>549582974I feel cucked just by looking at her, she has a body count in the quadruple didgets and at least a few dozen of her exes are alive and around to cuck me further.
>>549583086>who is Maive's real brother?Her brother used to be the fool, then the real governor surgically swapped faces with him.. So the "fool" you fought at the end was the governor, and the "governor" whom you'd been talking to at the feast and who got eaten by space tigers was the fool, ie Maive's real brother. Maive seemed a little confused on this point even at the end.
>>549583086>Why does Maive care about the fool if the fake governor is her real brother?1) awkward Russian translation 2) Maive is a simple woman and still doesn't quite get what is going on
>>549583358>Maive seemed a little confused on this point even at the end.That's what's confusing me.
>>549567874I loved this dumb idiot Welsh tard elf so much.
>>549579353When I did that one Idira ended up the last one standing.
>>549584783The best thing about DA2 was the new art style and the welsh elves and then they got rid of fucking all of it for Inquisition
Which game has the better stealth system? AOD or UnderRail?
>>549590469whoops, i meant Colony ship not AOD.
>>549590469A dance with rogues
>>549590469Rogue Trader. It's the most realistic. You have to pay attention, you don't have some meme "stealth meter" or whatever.
Every crpg companion should start out as a dick and become a bro by the end.
I've been enjoying Pathfinder, but the random shitty homm fights and now this city builder shit with decrees is just annoying, I just want to adventure and continue entering the bone zone while my lich mentor continues to advise me
>>549594831You're supposed to play Kingmaker first so you can remind yourself that at least it's not as bad as kingdom management
>>549595548I'm a new fag to the genre and I've only played larian stuff, is this normal for crpgs to just throw in random bullshit that completely kills the flow of the game to help pad the play time?
>>549595930Normal for OwlcatNot as much for other games, eg BG 1 and 2 are not this way.
>>549596159>Normal for owlcatSo they also do this shit in rogue trader? Cause that's one of the games that's on my radar since I'm a 40k fagHow well did bg1/2 age? Does it actually play well if I come from bg3?
>>549595930Kinda. A lot of crpgs have some kind of home base or campaign to manage. NWN2/Awakening/Pillars have the castle home base you spend the game building up. Expeditions games have a big campaign you're managing. BG2 sort of has a mini version of this with the strongholds.Owlcat games just have particularly bad minigames. I thought Rogue Trader was slightly better and I'm fucking praying DH's investigation stuff happens mostly in actual gameplay.
>>549556135
>>549596385>So they also do this shit in rogue trader?Not anywhere to the same degree.Rogue Trader flows pretty well. There are planetary management minigames, but they don't force themselves upon you and they are much shorter. Just like "which project do you want to build, Lord Captain". There's also ship combat but that's over quickly and it's fun.You do get into a situation where you lose all your gear and have to put the team back together, but that's not the same thing and it's pretty well done.Structure wise, Rogue Trader is much better than WotR
>>549596385>How well did bg1/2 age? Does it actually play well if I come from bg3?They're quite different but goodI am going to commit heresy and suggest you start with BG2. It has a richer sidequest system and better character interaction.
>>54959638540k fag here too, rogue trader is great. It's a really good impression of the world of 40k, and it's good to get away from the battlefield setting. I don't know about wrath of the righteous, I haven't played it, but rogue trader never anything that killed the flow.If you get RT, get both DLCs too, they're really well integrated.
Why can't I make Ulfar my new seneshal
>>549598834Seneschal needs to have a dick so he can continue the dynasty if you are unable.
>>549598834too fat
Should CRPGs have more blood-related companions?
>>549596385>How well did bg1/2 age?It depends who you are. Over the years I have seen new people play and enjoy them. I can also understand how younger players would dislike aspects of them.I have also seen younger people gargle grogtard balls and play "vanilla" which is objectively worse than EE. If those bald fat ogres approach you, just say "Tiax, Minsc, Melecamp chicken, Three kobolds, Jan" and watch them shamble off back into their cave with shit in their pants.I would even in fact suggest a couple mods, but they aren't necessary of course. In short, BG1 and 2 is a great long story arc of getting one-shotted by wolves up through godhood. Arguably, it's the cornerstone of the CRPG genre.
troonfar (they/them) and xis tldr viking gibberish in the most unfinished game section ever exist
Still mad we got the red prince instead of a lizard girl companion
>>549596385Play BG2 with the new version Imoen Mod
>>549600262Red prince is great though. This place couldn't handle him as a woman.
https://youtu.be/mt7L6UysC_0?si=yEN9lPt6CqBh5M4L
>>549600317Does she still get raped by the dwarf from the prologue?
>>549600195>EE>some hairy beasts in the distance get angry, start to stomp and roar and shuffle over>"Tiax, Minsc, Melecamp chicken, Three kobolds, Jan">grunt, huff, stomp, retreat back into dark hole to suck and rim each other in the dark
>>549600637>si=yEN9lPt6CqBh5M4LI shan't click
>>549600793
>>549600793>>549600637easy to fix but yes https://youtu.be/mt7L6UysC_0>>549600817>haha I'm a retard but I'm pointing at you that makes me not retarded
>>549600337True, he does become a bro if you helped him
>>549600234>so mindbroken he can't even enjoy a bog standard manly man space wolf
>>549600337>the red princess keeps lusting over her soulmate and asks the player if they want to be her side pieceyeah not happening
>>549600262the cuckposting would be off the charts
>>549600675Nope all rape has been removed. Now it's all about hugs and helping her through her trauma at the hands of the vile Irenicus
>>549601126I'd join Red Princess' harem.
>>549595548The kingdom management was fine for spreadsheetfags like myself. If anything it wasn't as deep as I'd have liked it.Wrath's homm ripoff is just unforgivably bad.>>549595930Rogue trader is fine. The space battles can be formulaic and boring at times but they're amazing compared to wrath's crusade fights. The worst part of RT is the later acts that they just kind of phone in. Hopefully those are getting fleshed out with the next two dlcs.
i liked the space battles, but i played on grim darkness so my cheeks getting clapped was on the line
who else is high af right now?
finally time for an info/lore dump
What kind of party comp should I make in ToEE? My only experience with these older d&d games was Icewind Dale 1 and that game mostly played itself.
>>549601385Imoen not being romanceable is the greatest crime in the world and the retcon to excuse it doesn't make it any better
>>549604301You do still get to fuck her in the new mod obviously They didn't remove that
>>549604301Imoen is a non-character and the retcon is the only reason she wasn't just killed off as some literally who
>>549604301It's interesting how Bioware never really understood why people like Imoen so much. In BG1 even her name is patched together from fragments of other voice lines belonging to a scrapped tutorial NPC
>>549604852Everyone in BG1 is a literally who.
>>549604852She's the girl next door. She doesn't need any more character than that and she automatically is best girl.
If Imoen had better stats maybe she'd be on the team.
Reminder that Imoen canonically gets raped by a lesbian vampire and that then (you) proceed to rape that same vampire to death
I prefer Wilson over Imoen
>companion is a main social skills user>during personal quest you need to defeat their dialog check with your own skill>you never leveled your social statsfuggg
Imoen's backstory is "Imoen"She doesn't need some meme nonsense like "oh no I lost my wings" or "I am the do-gooder daughter of a local lord" or "Viconia"
>muh wings>muh underdark>muh sibling is a queer fellow>muh husband is deadYeah I can do without the baldur's gate "waifus"
>My brother is QUEER>I don't want to marry>I just want SEX>Message me now
Any dnd lore experts? Who the fuck is greyhawk?
You have to balance the game yourself by deliberately choosing underpowered stuff.For example, one person in Discord has shown that the game can be completed on Max Sliders (which is like Super Duper Unfair) using only Operatives (which is the worst class in the game, to the point where people are saying it needs to be reworked).Owlcat have shown repeatedly that they aren't interested in creating extremely well-balanced games.And that's on-brand for gaming in general these days, everything is balanced for drooling retards.
>which is the worst class in the gameThis is verifiably false because exploits are broken.
>>549604852Ironically, that retcon is also the worst thing to happen to the story.All it would have taken is half of a line getting changed.>"Yes, she carries the essence of Bhaal, same as you. Though she was not born with it, our experiments have borne wondrous fruit. Now she is finally ready for extraction."
>>549607495Hit hit the nail on the head there, take my upvote!
>>549607495I would rather they just own the game being an unbalanced playground than some hyper min/max sweatlord masturbatory fantasy like pathfinder.The priest and NO changes were unironically great and turned them into monsters but then they turn around and "balance" bladedancer. It's like the left hand isn't talking to the right.
>>549607495>Owlcat have shown repeatedly that they aren't interested in creating extremely well-balanced games.And that's a good thing. They are singleplayer games, who cares? If you think a class is too strong and that triggers you then just don't play it.
THAC0 makes way more sense it should come back.
>>549607780>NOOOO I CAN'T FUCK MY SISTER THE STORY IS RUINED
>>549607495fuck off sawyer
Solasta three 3.5e
>>549608130That's not why it's an issue.It makes Gorion look bad for protecting one child of Bhaal when another was told to just sit at home doing nothing.It makes Sarevok look dumb for not mentioning or noticing a second Bhaalspawn in the player's party, or in the bounties sent after him.Instead of having a proper chosen one story where we're essentially alone in our experience, we've got someone else right there who's going through the exact same thing. It makes the player less special by proxy since Imoen could have just as easily been the main character.
uh because if bouncy mario cart play time with waifus is unloseable, its not a game, its a visual novel or movie.
>>549607495Operative isn't even bad. It's just a slower buildup support debuff class in a game where most fights are over very quickly
no one gives a fuck about your 3 dialogue line npc waifuschizos. fuck off and die
>>549607780Imoen should have received the Bhaal essence after a drunken session of intimacy after a harvest festival the previous year, something that both of you were too drunk to remember. But Irenicus extracted the memories with his magical apparatus.
>>549608324She also literally doesn't get bhakspawn abilities originally
Why hasn't tim cain announced his new game yet?
>>549608450>doesn't like people talking about CRPGS >doesn't even like people talking about the original builders gate games, some of the most acclaimed CRPGs everWhy are you even here then?
>>549608503She was supposed to die originally
>>549608486I think it would have been cool if the Bhaal spirit from Sarevok latched on to her after he died.It would turn the threat of the Bhaalspawn into something that could potentially be an issue for the rest of time.(I haven't played Throne of Bhaal. so I'm not sure how on/off the mark I am with my assessments)
>>549608672I am talking about the original game, not an irrelevant earlier version that never came to be
>>549608695No, bhakspawn being a virus is lame
>>549569691>casters always have small tits,
>>549608613>Why are you even here then?mental illnessthe same that drives him to include that shit comment in the OP because it's the biggest victory for him all week
>>549608324You were never alone in your experience. The whole point is that he made a bunch of you.
>>549582974eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww>>549608897wasn't she a body snatcher or am I remembering wrong?
>>549608324bhaalspawn just look like regular people until their essence awakens maybe gorion just didn't notice
>>549609013Tbh I don't remember. It's been so fucking long since I played Bound By Flame, and the most noteworthy thing I remember from it is how abruptly the story finished and how it felt like it was set up for a sequel that never came.
So what is the next IP owlcat is going to get?
>>549608897milf/mommy coded casters and especially witch/evil codes ones are the exception
>>549558489Verse from tyranny
>>549609081How'd he notice it in us then?it didn't start awakening until after Mulahey.Also, wasn't Sarevok successfully tracking down and murdering all his brothers and sisters? That's why he originally targets our character in the first place, and why Gorion has us leave to go into hiding.
>>549609354I honestly don't think they are making another 40k game because there isn't any interesting enough perspective for them to tackle.Going from RT/inquisitor to anything else is going to be a downgrade, even a space marine yes. Not to mention a space marine protagonist wouldn't even make for a good crpg.They could always go back to pathfinder I guess, and they are definitely making another expanse game if the one they are making now ends up being successful.I could maybe see them making some kind of deal for a world of darkness/vampire the masquerade game, if everything they are doing now goes well, they definitely have the prestige for it. They could go for some call of cthulhu or some cyberpunk as well I guess. But the former seems too limiting and the latter too close to their work on 40k to immediately follow up on with.So yeah, world of darkness seems like the best ip to follow with if they don't want to make their own original stuff.
What's single worst encounter you've ever had in CRPGs?Can be badly designer, frustrating, tedious or plain super difficult.
