Smissmas Edition>NewsSmissmas is here: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=259202>Official SitesBlog: https://teamfortress.comWiki: https://wiki.tf>Frag With /tf2g/When: Friday & Saturday Afternoon. Check for posts in the thread or be the one to announce.tf2g's Official Server: 78.46.128.115:27015 (EU)Ready Up: https://tf2gfragready.b4k.dev/>Other 4chan ServersWeeabootique: 198.245.61.57 (NA)Castaway: Castaway.tf (NA/EU/AUS/Asia)Konata: konata.tf (EU)>ResourcesFAQ: https://pastebin.com/Svy4uc7tMods: https://pastebin.com/8Q6bzADkPreview Loadouts & Skins: https://loadout.tf | https://weapons.tf | https://p337.info/tfviewHUDs: https://gamebanana.com/mods/cats/1644 | https://tf2huds.dev/Scripting: https://pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | https://pastebin.com/R7V4cN8STrading: https://backpack.tf | https://trade.tf | https://stntrading.eu/ | https://tf2trade.tf/Stats: https://pastebin.com/0yaDyWb4Sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/Community Server Browsers: https://serverbrowser.tf/ | https://thegabenzone.github.io/truequickplay/#/serversCreators Leaks: https://archive.is/GeYbEtf2g's Guide to Heavy: https://pastebin.com/Y7ZWgt96>Competitive News & Events: https://teamfortress.tvLobbies & Mixes: https://tf2center.com | https://pastebin.com/vNTDF4eLLeagues: https://pastebin.com/UJ9sDAdq>Previous Thread>>549239481
EXCUSE ME, I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
3 NIGASON CART
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
>>549553887thanks for baking, it wouldn't let me for some reason
5 = name7 = description
i like how this map plays, but oh my god i cannot stand the 16 year old doing a shitty accent on a usb microphone in their echoey bedroom for the announcer
>>549554241Arizona Arnold Palmer
>>549554241fempyro is my wife
>>549554241wacky face stretcher
Seriously though, what happened to last year's maps? I actually kinda wanted to play Maul for an hour.
>>549554393Happened with the 2024 Halloween maps as wellI guess they just forgot about them since it's only 2 maps missing
>>549554273
>>549554241bad dragon arrows
steam friends
>>549553887casual servers dead as usual?
>>549555024It's chewsday innit
>>549554241sex with fempyro
Not sure why they picked Pyro to have the Ranger cosmetic instead of Sniper or Soldier or even Demoman.
should I even bother getting the taunt for this
>>549555073ahahaa
so when is valve remove the ctf map
>>549555293no
>>549556018When you learn english.
>>549556018gonna remove*>>549556104shut up...
>>549556018you mean gamemode? never?
Did Zesty win yet?
>>549556327did i say gamemode i'm talking about the new mechawreck happening
>>549553887Thanks man, you forgot to add your steam group here you go! https://steamcommunity.com/groups/transf2
>>549556665no but your post was so ESL anyway that I wasn't sure what you meant
>>549557017i said ctf map though
This is a good OPNow, where's the MvM update?
>>549556717amazing that you have links like that in your speed dial
>>549557482He's obsessed, not really amazing
>>549557482Oh you honor me, you're literally soooooo the op image (or any fempyro image you have saved) sister
>>549557689This but ironically
Just wasted 22 usd on keys and winter boxes.Fucking shame.
>>549556018If anything's gonna happen, he'll just be removed from the credits of the map so he doesn't get paid
>>549558997show the loot
>>5495573142 weeks
>>549559382bellybutton rape
>>549559138
Which case should I invest in? I'm thinking Blue Moon or Mayflower but Mayflower is already .20.
>>549559746>3 dollars in 2 weeksSell ASAP
Kill festive pyros. Behead festive pyros with the festive eyelander. Roundhouse kick a festive pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a festive gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy festive pyro mains. Defecate into a festive pyros festive sandvich. Launch festive pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry festive pyros in a wok. Toss festive pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a festive pyros gasstank. Judo throw festive pyros into a woodchipper. Twist festive pyros heads off. Report festive pyros to Valve. Karate chop festive pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant festive pyros. Trap festive pyros in the underworld. Dump festive pyros into the trash compactor. Liquify festive pyros into a vat of acid. Eat festive pyros. Dissect festive pyros. Exterminate festive pyros in MGE. Stomp on festive pyros skull with the festive mantreads. Make festive pyros check'em. Cremate festive pyros with the festive degreaser. Lobotomize festive pyros. Mandatory trade bans for festive pyros. Crush festive pyros into a festive paste. Drown festive pyros in festive jarate. Vapourize festive pyros with a festive pomson. Spawn camp festive pyros. Kick a festive pyro from your mvm lobby. Shark festive pyros from hat drops. Feed festive pyros to alligators. Slice festive pyros open with the festive half-zatoichi.
>>549559902I can only sell them on 16 Dec, it's over for me.
Heโs so perfect bros
>>549557689cook his ass
>Releasing an update on Tuesday so when casual inevitably shits itself you can just blame it on the scheduled maintenance500 IQ move by Eric
Does Valve even still make pink cookies
>>549554405>>549555117holy winrar
>>549560531nice wrist clipping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmoSKPfMWA
>>549561748KINO. Another character introduced to the TF2 Cinematic Universe. WE'RE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER
>>549561748christ, and i thought that pl_brazil, or whatever map it was with the casino and tanks was bad
>>549561748sad thing is that map is actually pretty fun until the fucker starts talking
>>549561748Random guy trying to voice act at 2AM energy.
>>549561748ESL accent and dogshit mic holy hell
>>549561748Administrator>Mission begins in 60 seconds...>The bomb has almost reached the final terminus! Hahahah!Short and concise, clearly states what's happening to players and has a bit of humor thrown in that isn't disruptiveOC announcers>WELCOME MERCENARIES! I, NUTTY PUTTY THE NUTCRACKER DEMAND YOUR NUTS! Erm, not those nuts, heheh...BUT YES! IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU BRING ME NUTS SO I MAY BECOME HUMAN, AND IN RETURN, I'LL GIVE YOU IMMORTALITY, HAHAH! Except you Medic...
>>549561748>tf2fags really think their cringe writing and acting is on par with the base gamedunning kruger fanbase
>>549561748>there are voice lines in the game now where some OC donut steel is actually the guy medic stole the skeleton from and it was a real story and not medic having a goof
>>549561748>Shit mic>Randomly switches accents like he suddenly remembered the character is supposed to be German>Constant voice cracks>Can't properly shout, sounds like a kid recording at night trying to not get caught by his parents>Long ahh witty monologues that get interrupted before he can even finish them>Le epic Morshu reference (probably others)>Desperately wants to be part of the established lore (this is supposed to be the patient Medic stole the skeleton from)Not a SINGLE redeeming quality, holy shit
>>549561348at least as of 2019, so probably yes.here is the recipe: https://x.com/kcline/status/1209532826351063041
>>549561748pd_watergate and its consequences have been a disaster for announcer-kind
>>549561748Any time someone decides to make custom announcer voice lines, it's like shitting all over Ellen McLain's voice talent and whoever the VO director was.
>>549561748>I'm a freakin' Nutcracker. And you better believe you don't wanna see me get nutsStopped listening there. It's giving me a I'M DA JOKA BAYBEE and the generic "You don't wanna see me when I'm angry" vibehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX_wprkggoEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAZjR5nTkME
>>549564404>And you better believe you don't wanna see me get nutsIt's a literal Da Joker reference.https://youtu.be/lnVEUB3RMW0?si=b-fuCXeSWJ-Gru1T
>>549564571beat me to it
>>549564152watergate was at least soulful because it used willfromafar text to speech
>there's a secret stash of gold nuts on dah red team>you'll get a big pay out if you pull this off>who am i you asked?>you can call me the nutstah
>>549561748>inb4 mapmakers blame it on Player Destruction not having official voice linesThere's a bunch of unused voice lines like for PLR that can easily be repurposed for PD to indicate when a team gets/loses the leadhttps://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Administrator_responsesEverything you need for PD is pretty much there, but mapmakers would rather have their discord kitten be a part of TF2
>Cashew, Macadamia, Peanut...>3 nutcations...one monumental nut-off...
>dey picked the tin man ova me?>heh. well. i guess that's pretty nutty.
>was going to buy austalium gold paint>got it from the sock insteadnice, good update
Update seems cool enough, probably won't touch again for a while.
>NIGGA IM NUTS
>*plops a big bag of nuts onto the table*>Whadda say, fellas?
I like big nuts... especially if they visibly weigh down the sack they're in
>>549565920YYYYYES
https://knockout.chat/thread/77604/20#post-2805436They already reached out to the knockoutroons to stay hush hush about the mapmaker being a pedo lol
>>549566182Go back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRl3r4q_dUY
>"I like my teams like I like my romances: six years old."what did spy mean by this
>>549566365I think it's pretty clear what he meant by that
>>549566431but tf2 is much older than six yearsdoes he not like the tf2 team
Nutcracker cosmetics when?
>>549566536No and everybody hates him because he's gay and french.
>Nutcracker map is making everybody here seethe because of reddit humorHonestly, kinda based in an ironic way.
>>549566834nigga that's nuts
>>549566834tf2 updates have an average 100% chance to make /tf2g/ seethe, it's pretty incredible
Next OP shall be Nuts Edition
>>549566332you know the rules, anon
>>549566834>>549567250>Add garbage content>wtf wdym you're not happy about getting more slop???
Sidewinder is a pedophile mapDo not support pedophiles
>>549567524This is /tf2g/ sir if anything they'll go out of their way to buy map stamps for it
>>549567524Meanwhile, crickets when Metabolic is outed as a pedo
>>549567524Im largely out of the loop of the greater online e-drama landscape, but who actually takes these "soliciting minors via discord" callouts seriously?
olivia ToT
no one gives a shit about metabolic
>>549567853this but unironically
>>549567887Ok and no one gives a shit about your fake drama. All 4 of those other map makers were gleeful to work with an alleged "pedo" but we're not supposed to be mad at them I guess.Meanwhile Metabolic posts Vipes' dox and apparently also spams cp on the FNAF general >>549364121 + still actively gets items in the game. Yeah I think Metabolic / BE NICE 2 ME is a worse person.
Was there an update that removes decals or something? My pics haven't loaded for the past couple of days.
lazer gazers is the best new cosmetic
>unusual effect: team recognition I laffed
Wutville is still peak Smissmas map.
>>549569123
>>549569270What is Zesty doing on the cvckchair?
>>549569387enjoying the view
>>549561727Itโs a nice render. No need to nitpick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UINGhBb9BQwAlright which one of you is Goose
>>549559943Fuck festive pyros. Get head from festive pyros. Fuck a festive pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy festive pyro cunts. Have the festive pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into festive pyros. Fry festive pyros' brains with sex. Toss a festive pyro's salad. Urinate into a festive pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw festive pyros onto a bed. Twist festive pyros' nipples. Report your love for festive pyros to Valve. Split festive pyros' legs in half. Impregnate festive pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon festive pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a festive pyro cum dumpster. Submerge festive pyros into a vat of cum. Eat festive pyros' pussies. Dissect festive pyros' clothes off. Dominate festive pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap festive pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Make festive pyros suck'em. Cream inside festive pyros' holes. Lobotomize festive pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for festive pyros. Give festive pyros your love paste. Drown festive pyros in mad milk. Whip festive pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with festive pyros. Invite a festive pyro to your mvm lobby. Give festive pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck festive pyros like an alligator. Slice festive pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
>>549570024this but also shupos
>>549570024this butt also shupos, zhanna, ms pauling and olivia >>549553887>
>>549570939don't forget young administrator and femscout
>>549569951it's probably this dude >>549570024
>>549571319No thanks, I'm a straight male. Feel free to stop projecting any time though
>>549571319Unironically this
>>549564152I like the announcers on Cursed Cove and Farmageddon
Should I buy an Unusual Federal Casemaker, Unusual Winter Woodsman, some other all class hat that doesn't suck or Strange FN skins?
>>549572768Skins are underrated are make for classier loadouts than unusuals
>>549571436>
>>549570024>>549571436based af
>>549569938What nitpick, it's right in your face in the middle of the screen. They also gave him faggot eyes.
>>549572768Unusuals are gaudy and skins look like shit. Just make a nice cosmetic loadout and maybe paint it if you've got cash to burn.
what do u think about smissmas 2025 loadout and taunt?
>>549572768Post how much keys you have
>>5495775868/10Only one stinkers for each (Money Scout and the stupid Snowman)
>>549577586I really like the coat cosmetics and most of them are blue, so I'll probably pick them up once they're ten cents.
why did they add an islamic ball on christmas
>>549578952>Jewish Shape>IslamicRetard-kun...
>>549578952I know nothing about the abrahamic faiths other than the 200 pages of the quran i read out of curiosity and two chapters of paradise lost and whatever gore xitter spammed at me because of october 7th
>>549568446For what it's worth, that guy doesn't seem to be credited on the map anymore, and that ban happened way after the map was uploaded to the workshop. Still bullshit, though.
Holy shit guys check steamhttps://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=259202
>>549580084we are back!!!
>>549577586why is spy on there twice
>>549579490baby making sex with honey
>>549577586Looks pretty good overall. The Fallout New Vegas set for Pyro looks out of place though but I can't explain why.
>>549579490jewish rat
Got a couple NEXT ITEM hypes, but they were not that great. What Class/Weapon we playing this time?
>>549581481probably because it's essentially a promo set for an old game during christmas?
>sidewinders workshop comments got turned offhmm
>>549581390Sex before marriage is wrong.>>549581606Sheโs a cat, and Iโm pretty sure sheโs not Jewish.
>>549553887this image doesn't have anything to do with tf2. perfect op 10/10
>>549577847Disagree, Scout sit taunt is spot on.Scrub paints take paint in the worst wayAlpine apparel paints the undershirt. 1/10Sydney Shearer does not take paint. 1/10Most of the rest of these are acceptable hatte.Heavy winter coat and Sniper Pilot helm were the best of my unboxes.>>549581683vid finally processedhttps://youtu.be/RHvivUetK04
>>549579240>jews invented spheres
what the fuck valveI literally can't tell which one I'm supposed to shoot
https://youtu.be/d5QbpyWWLe8I kinda like old hire but the best hat for it's elite grade.
>>549583573is it just me or are the first 3 effects and the orbiting team logo running at choppy, low FPSlooks weird when demo's idle animation is smooth and fluid
>>549583551what team is he on!?!?! the white team????
>>549582126>Sex before marriage is wrong.Honey wouldn't say that
B4rry status?
hmm...
Why prices goes up for Festivizer?Yes, I am not aware.
>>549586447you aren't reading the patch noting? try doing that
>>549586749The only reason that it can be used with all weapons now? Do you think the price will stabilize?
>>549587142Price will absolutely stablize because you can still get festivizers from drops. It might take a month or two to go back to normal if speculators hold on, but it's not the new normal.
>>549577586Surprisingly small amount of dogshit
Soldier's handwriting is neater than I expected
>>549587513>medic's is in english and not germansovless
>>549582282that's the pyro, retard
>>549567524>pedo>actual charge is having been a child sending sexual material to adultswhat
>>549589430Yeah I don't think that retard actually read what it was sayingCalling a grooming victim a pedo is certainly a hell of a take
>>549577586i will be opening as soon as i collect a few. i was just putting together some cold-weather loadouts and noticed demo was lacking a good winter chest option, i'd like that one the most.
My Smissmas loadout? Why, I'm glad you asked>B.M.O.C.>Saxton's Own Spirit Of Giving>Merc's Muffler
>>549578952It looks way too much like a big boobie with a nipple on it.
>>549590494haha imagine if it was fempyro's boob
>>549589632kino
>>549581683flare pyro
>>549589632trying too hard
Matterhorn best PLR map for winter.
I hope i win the boxing tournament so i can buy coffin of andy.
>>549592462cant you just watch in on youtubeor pirate itrule34 or something else perhaps
>>549560075that's what you get for being a retard
>>549581683direct hit only, but the floor is a constant resupply, meaning that you have to pop the other guy into the air then get the airshot to kill
>>549581683demoknight with a ramp on both sides to trimp into the air
>>549581683booties/tide turner, shield bash damage onlycould also require the persian persuader and put ammo packs around the arena
6 = name7 = desc
>>549594578anon #549554241 is a nigger he never delivered
>>549594578Smissmas Sex with Shupos
>>549594578Shupogaki
>>549594578Strange Smissmas Sweater Detonator
>>549594578paedophile
>>549594578fempyro is my wife
>>549594578test
>>549594578Honey the Cat
>>549594578I love CP
>>549595106>>549594727nice
>>549595106>>549594727
>>549595274Nice.
>>549595274better man than me, id delete it out of principle
I don't listen to what Steam Discussion threads or Youtubers say about hats and workshop items. You can gauge if the community as a whole hates it by how fast it goes on sale. This case is a good case because the price took hours to drop whereas last year's took 30 minutes.
mmmmm bimbo pyros....
mmmmm bimbo pyros (futa)....
>>549596476based>>549596556cringe
Just got to play as saxton hale for the first time on a full server and I won, nice.Its like a demoknight on steroids.
A dead game is better than a toxic game, chud!
>>549597625>this game is dead! I want new content!>no, not like that! this game is fucking dead!
>>549597792/tf2g/ already does something like that.
How would you reimagine the TF2 tutorial and training mode to:1: actually include all 9 classes2: give it more polish3: give more sovl?
Gavle is kinda ass, very red sided. That first checkpoint on the payload section needs to be pushed forward, why the fuck is it in a spammy as fuck room?
What if your main was an insect? Would you still love them?
>>549602062>pyro not a fireflydam now i'm reminded of the dang firefly song, i blame you anonymous poster
How's the value of everyone's inventory doing?
>>549589632i really should start making seasonal loadout
Ok but seriously, what happened to b4nny?
>>549602668Wasnโt he arrested for eating the Yomps burger or something like that
>>549602668the slurs.tf logs got released
>>549603003Idiot, b4nny infiltrated the competitive mode as a secret agent to disrupt it from the inside.
>>549601682This is my first holiday tf2 event. Is every Christmas map just terrible? I thought the Halloween ones were bad
I want to slap the guy who made the new festivized variants because why does the kunai have that battery front and center
>>549603327>>549603520You are going on the Naughty List.
>>549603327we used to get okay christmas maps but Wutville was a sign of things to come
>>549600475It would just be a nice basic, easy to understand tutorial. Ideally the merc of the class your learning would narrate everything for peak soul
>>549600475I honestly think its fine as is, gives a short intro of the basis to understand the game and engi/spy's special kitsthe rest you get through experienceat most I would add a achievement weapon drop with a "wow you completed x achivement and unlocked y gun that does z, when you complete milestone cheevos you get more guns, check your achievement progress here *arrow to the ingame achievement button*
>>549604287you didn't close your quote you fucking idiot
>>549604357Your funeral is going to be a closed casket.
>>549604458
>>549600475>>549604287I also don't think that it's necessary to make a tutorial for all nine classes.Should only be for the basic and starter ones like Soldier, Pyro, Heavy and maybe Engineer. Like, do you really need to play a tutorial to understand that you can double-jump as Scout or that you have to press M2 to ubercharge? Make the in-game tips more visible or something instead. In-game pop-ups can be annoying but they're there and they can work
>>549600475Lots and lots of spoken dialogue with comic humor voiced by workshoppers doing bad impersonations
matterhorn is fun
jesus fucking christ why do no modern voice actors seem to have their balls properly descended?I just played the nutcracker map and the announcer voiced sounded like a 14 year old doing a shitty impressiona dude in my party said it took him a moment to realize the announcer wasn't some guy in the voice chateven the better announcers on other maps, it still is obviously just some 20 something year old guy with zero real bass or gravel to his voice
>>549581683Wrap Assassin, Baubles only.
>>549604559This
>>549604626Krampus is the only one that breaks that trend somehow
>>549604559why is everyone so pouty about the comics all of a sudden? i thought they were funny
>>549604593>PLREhhhh...>>549604626Yeah, what really sucks is that you can immediately tell that it's a zoomer doing the voice. I'm not saying that you need to hire veteran voice actors to do this but are older ones that expensive to get for a quick job?
>>549604626the tf2 accent is unescapable
>>549605386Because the ending finally came out last year and it didn't stick the landing for a lot people. I mean it was always going to be hard to make a good conclusion after ignoring the comics for like 7 years but they glossed over a bunch of stuff people wanted the answers to, even to the point of making jokes about it, made Administrator's motivation "it don't matter lol," made the guys we play as "the worst team ever lol," and let Jay Stinkerton cuck Ms Pauling from Scout. Left a sour taste in peoples' mouths afterwards
>>549605386Their beloved Youtuber said that the comics don't epresent the trve humor of TF2 so newfags don't like them anymore (the game humor has changed way before the comics started to come out)>>549605610Don't know what you're talking about, the last issue was pretty much universally praised even if it took almost a decade to come out. I'm not even saying that it was a perfect conclusion but considering all the delays and shit, it was definitely a satisfying one for tons of people.
>>549605743>pretty much universally praised>for tons of people.Tons != Universally praised. Note that I said "a lot of people" not "every person." There are a lot of people who didn't like it, yes they're in the minority, no that doesn't change that a lot of people didn't like it and that's why the comics are perceived as flawed now. You'll see a lot more of the honest opinions about it on /vg/ and there were a lot of them when it was new.
>>549605869"Lots of people" isn't a minority.And taking /vg/ as an extent of the public opinion on a topic is fucking stupid, sorry to tell you this. Like I said some of the criticisms are totally valid however believing that the last comic was the straw that broke the camel's back is very funnyYou want an actual piece of TF2 media that didn't stick with a lot of people? Meet the Pyro.
>>549605321true as fuck, that voice is like rum and cock to my earsas meh as the actual map is im glad we got it just for the monsterfucker fuel. Even for a "furry" character it doesn't look like a generic mascot-style fursona, it actually sorta fits in tf2s art style
matterhorn is fucking aidsits like they asked the mapmaker "hey make a payload race, but it only takes 1 second for each team to get to the other teams spawn and spawnrape it from literally 2 seconds after setup timehave fun"
>>549604487mio mentioned!
>>549606589Payload Race really sucks because either the carts and spawns are extremely far away from one another and the map becomes even more of a slog than real payload or the tracks are so cramped that it becomes an absolute spawn-camping fest.If I wanted to play deathmatch in TF2, I'd just queue for CTF or KOTH.
>>549605437zoomer tf2 youtubers either vociferously hate zesty jesus or religiously orbit him because hes the only tf2 youtuber left who isn't one game of truth or dare/lost bet away from dressing up in a cheap temu maid dress and sucking their equally faggy friends flaccid chodei remember listening to the chucklenuts podcast and there was like 15 minutes of them just talking about how much they love onions lmao
>>549606107>"Lots of people" isn't a minority.Actual retard, there are 1.5 billion black people in the world and that's a hell of a lot people but they're still a minority.>And taking /vg/ as an extent of the public opinion on a topic is fucking stupid,I didn't say it was, I just said you'll see more honest opinions here. That's a fact. I think you're trying to argue semantics more than just reading my posts.
>>549607396>Black people out of nowhere
Decided to try mvm again, did 2 two cities tours, meh, nothing.Wanted to try out Mecha Engie. Take forever to find a group to do the last mission. GET A GOLDEN SNIPER RIFLE, MY FIRST AUSTRALIUM EVER. WOW.
>>549607580https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un4p-6lzIpI
>>549607558>Using a real example of a large minority to illustrate a point isn't allowed
Whoโs up doing their usual?
>>549607665I'm so unc I don't remember the last time I was up at 3AM. I go to bed at a nice 11PM
>>549607717Iโm probably your age or older. You can do it bro. I believe in you.
>>549607580I thought australiums only dropped on two cities?
>>549561748i blame Eric's lack of standards
>>549607982They changed that like a decade ago because there was no reason to play the other tours
>>549604626because they are asking their friends and family to do voices for free, because actual professionals ask for money.>the announcer voiced sounded like a 14 year old doing a shitty impressionprobably because it's most likely a 14 y/o doing a shitty impression
>>549607315anon did you type this one handed
>>549607628I immediately got into a sniper duel with a twitchy sniper main who hid near a sentry with a razorback so it's not all good.
>>549602630all my loadouts are usually>hat cosmetic>something on face or head or just a badge>body cosmeticso i just swap the hat out for bmoc
Am I going senile or did the Crossing Guard use to NOT have a Strange version? Did this always exist? I swear I've never seen a Strange Crossing Guard before this update, not ingame or on the community market
>>549611086I think they always existed but were rare
New maps are distinctly mid, performance is dogshit, all the aimbotters and furry goon stacks are out and about. That's enough for one night.Anyone found anything interesting yet? Easter eggs, unintended build spots, OOB clips?
>>549611086it always had one
>>549600475I think the easiest way would be to just have an obstacle course where step by step you have to do class specific things, maybe with a bot doing them first to demonstrate, then putting them to use on an easy scripted dustbowl match with bots
>>549600475>Scout: target practice while moving and jumping>Soldier: rocket jumping tutorial>Pyro: reflect practice>Demo: target practice for pipes and to get a feel for stickies>Heavy: something like tower defense>Engineer: tutorial for the PDA and how each building works & explain metal costs>Medic: Medigun & healing tutorial, maybe focus on how you shouldn't rely on your syringe gun too often>sniper: target practice>Spy: tutorial for backstabs, Invisicloak, disguise kit. maybe a stealth minigame at the end where you have to capture the intelligence without getting spottedI would also add in small tutorials for specific unlocks that are very different from stock (i.e. dead ringer, shields, lunchbox items, etc)
>>549607580MVM tour costs 4 dollars per try. Australium Sniper costs $73.70.That's around 19 waves to break even.Worth it?You could buy the australium sniper, or other video game.
Welp, that was the Smissmas updateTime to hibernate until July or be suddenly waken up by the MvM update, whichever comes firstZzzzzz...
What weapons does Smissmas Sweater look good on?
>>549587513wholesome!!
>>549611086what loadouts actually look good with the crossing guard?
>>549595274based delivery
>>549616581The black box is usually a pretty safe choice while every other weapon really depends on what seed you got
"let's make the worst health distribution of any map"
>>549620302Damn, looks nothing like a TF2 mapNot even some team colors to divide the map
>>549577586>Pyro getting NCR Ranger armor instead of sniperBonehead moveOtherwise 5/5 pretty gud
How do seasonal unusual effects work? They can only show up on the hats in the new case?
>>549620913all hat cases swaps their unusual pool to the current event unusual poolwhen the event ends the event case gets monopoly on the event unusuals but it also gets a mix of old effects
>>549621124That sucks. Unusuals should move to a gem and socket system like Dota.
Still waiting on this fempyro mod to get compatibility with Summer 2025 cosmetics.
>>549620302this is indistinguishable from a csgo map
Gold rush > every new slop map
why does gavle (pronounced gahv-lay) have an attack defend round before the actual round where you defend the cute goat effigy?i like the goat
>>549607790>man o war jellyfish>blue ringed octopus>urchin>stonefisheither sniper has one hell of a toxin immunity or this is moments before he is fatally gangraped by some of the most famously poisonous sea creatures known to manthen again, with frequent use of jarate pills and no symptoms of jaundice, maybe his liver can tank ithes gonna need something for the pain though, fucking yeowch
>>549623534Valve will just give him an unlock that gives him a free immunity to poison
>>549622182>goldrush>bettermaybe if i want to sit around doing nothing while i wait for the server to fill...
>>549597625all that typing because somebody said "kys", kek
>>54960658930 is not a cougar that's a christmas cake retard
>>549623385marvel rivals and overwatch made mixed-objective modes popular and people are trying to find a way to make it work in tf2. it's actually really cool cuz historically tf2 was simplpy too old to cross the streams on payload and CP but with modern vscript and shit its able to be made to happen
>>549597625tf2 mods are fun read this!
>>549597625Owning the chuds by killing off interest in the passion project I spent thousands of hours working on.
Part 2 of the BASE Jumper Nerf.https://youtu.be/kxgeL50S96I?si=NdtfD6MDBr6DVUdZ
>>549595108Put your name back on, YD, we all know you love CP you Romanian pedophile
I kind of hate all the new maps. Not a single gem.
>>549628365Already asked grok
>Already asked grok
Grok is based
Isn't it funny how the best player you ever seen is always some eastern european with a bunch of hacking accusations on their profileThese great players should group up and win tournaments. Funny how no eastern european team ever wins tournaments
>>549631780they're just so humble that they never thought to and they all play sniper so it would be 6 snipers vs 6 snipers
>>549577586Scout taunt feels like it should be for Spy and the new Pyro set looks out of place. Everything else is okay.
>>549577586New scout cosmetics based off the last comic are nice I guess
>>549626454>it's actually really cool cuz historically tf2 was simplpy too old to cross the streams on payload and CP but with modern vscript and shit its able to be made to happeni will take your word for it and continue testing the new maps but it seems really hard for red to hold, my team was waddling around lost until we got ran over
>>549577586I don't care at all
uh oh
I love taunt chains
>>549634098Does this shupo actually talk like this or is this an assumption based on her smug ass face
>>549634694they talk like that while playing tf2
>>549634098
>>549634439soul
>>549634439basado and sovful
>>5495641362019 was 7 years ago
THE SEAL LOOKS HUNGRYGIVE 'EM SOME FISH
>>549626307>30 is not a cougarIt is if the boy is 15.
>>549606589Matterhorn is the best payload race map, made to perfectly appeal to the best parts of payload race. The banana peel is perfect.
The game would be better if sniper wasnt in it
>>549634694All of the shupo posters have the most shallow understanding of the actual shupos themselves because they never played the game theyโre from so they wouldnโt know.
Can i get a "fuck sniper" in the thread?
idk what games shupos are even from
>>549628365>From my experience, your main threat with the parachute isn't Heavies, Snipers or Sentries, since you can play around those and use your gamesense>I think it's actually Scouts, because they can chase you down and they can be difficult to hit even from high ground, especially in open spacesI don't think I agree, obviously if you bomb an average player that doesn't even know where he's taking damage from you can kill those classes, but as soon as a Heavy or Sniper sees you floating in the air they have the advantageAs for Scouts there's not much they can do if you're up high in the air, and yes open spaces are in general scout's strength
shupo = cutebut gacha = slop
Can TF2 be classified as a gacha
>>549577586Overall not too bad, there isn't really much slop apart from the snowman, laser eyes and the cash tauntI don't like items referencing the comics to be added since the comics happen after the game events, but with this one it fine since it's just longer hair and some pants/sweaterMedic's sweater is probably my favorite this update. The other 2 taunts are nice as wellStill won't get anything cuz I finalized my loadouts years ago
The new festivized weapons gave me renewed hope...
Is there a list of everything that CAN'T be festivized now? Apparently not everything from the workshop submission has been accepted
Now if they could just make festivized items use a style toggle like hats we'd actually have a system worth a damn. Male stat clocks a toggle too and we'd really be cooking.
>>549643398*Make
>>549643047>not everything from the workshop submission has been acceptedYet.
>>549620302The current style community maps are going for is just Overwatch.
>>549626454>but with modern vscript and shit its able to be made to happenI know this is kind of unrelated but Valve has tried to do them in the past. The only thing that ever got released was some community map features like tf_logic_hybrid_ctf_cp.
>>549634439Christmas miracle
>>549587513if it's from a community map then it's not his real handwriting
>>549641136Fuck SniperOr be fucked by himEither is fine
>>549634098>>549634797When's the rerun.......
>>549605610>made Administrator's motivation "it don't matter lol"complete lack of reading comprehension.the admin's motivation is that zeph killed her parents, but she had spent so long torturing him that she had completely lost that memory leaving only her burning desire for revenge.
>>549623534Sniper is so filthy that it negates and toxins or poisons
>>549643047I noticed that the Pomson is the only Dr. Grordbort weapon that can't be festivized for some reason.
eric please fix the flamethrower bugs
>>549648438submit the fixed faggot
>>549649510Stop eating them pink donuts or whatever and start working on the game yourself, fatty.
>>549649510It's been on the github for years nowEmailing him about it has resulted in nothing...
Why don't more people use the backscatter?
>>549645080They at least got Sniper right from the post card he sent to his parents
Made a new spray, feel free to use.
>>549653307sometimes i have two people to kill but i do enjoy the chunkyness of the critletting it be war painted would be cool too
>>549653307How many hours did it take for you to get a clip like that?
>>549653307>didn't taunt after the failed stairstabThat's mandatory
>>549654262i will
>>549653307Always wish it could do 150 dmg exactly if you're directly behind someone so you could one shot a medic. Would make it more fun for flanking.
>>549643047All passive wearable weapons (parachute, jetpack, boots, sniper's back items, etc.) didn't get themBut there's others missing like the Gas PasserI also noticed the Iron Curtain got it but not the Lugermorph, weird
>>549655271If you idiots seriously think Valve made those festivized weapons themselves, you're even more stupid than usual. They bought a pack from a Workshop creator who made festivized versions of every single weapon in the game. That creator also sent Valve a spreadsheet with implementation info, since some weapons require additional tech (or something, idfk). Valve, as usual, only implemented the absolutely easiest no brain solutions possible and ignored the rest, just like they do with GitHub PRs. The last time we got any actually Valve-made piece of content was the 2023 grill render in the goddamn main menu.
>>549656376>If you idiots seriously think Valve made those festivized weapons themselvesNobody is saying this>They bought a pack from a Workshop creator who made festivized versions of every single weapon in the gameThat's why people are asking since not all of them were added as advertised on the workshop submission
>>549656376>If you idiots seriously think Valve made those festivized weapons themselvesno one has said anything like this ever, why are you punching shadows?
Valve made the festivized weapons themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zivk_vNYQcAnother Gold Rush rant has entered the area!
>>549657404Why are there so many of these
>>549656376>If you idiots seriously think Valve made those festivized weapons themselvesNo one said this you sperg, the question was "which weapons can't be festivized"
>>549658082If I had to guess>People still upset about missing features *cough* autoreload>People misunderstanding the mod expecting it to be a reversion mod to 2010 and getting annoyed by the other changes>TF2C trannies, mod is Zesty-approved therefore bad
>>549657404plap
>>549657404>soijak in the big 26let me guess everything in this video is ragebait
>>549658949I don't know, I closed the video after 10 seconds.Here watch this one instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9oOKqMjNUo
>>549658949ok i got through 4 minutes and 30 seconds until the "OMG IT HAS STUFF FROM LATER EVEN THOUGH IT CALLED GOLD RUSH THAT'S SO STRANGE SO WEIRD SO BIZARRE AND INACCURATE LIKE WHAT IT IS EVEN TRYING TO BE" argument came up for the 3rd time and I couldn't take it anymore. bro would you be interested in playing the game if it had even LESS content? no I don't think so, yet these people always get their OCD triggered and can't shut the fuck up about it. WOW the devs had no idea how stupid they were to include more options for the player, nobody else realized this, give yourself a pat on the back for being so unbelievably smart to see that and point it out 5 times in the same video.
>>549657404Closed after 5 seconds, the way he talks is annoying
>>549634439>>549653307/ourgoy/
>>549661027you know what else is nasty? empty servers
>>549661181Now post the tf2 classic servers
>>549661285why?
>>549661285i care not for that either.i care so little about TF2C that im not going to download it just to grab a screenshot of 8 people trying to have fun on dustbowl.
>>549661360Because tf2 gr has a much better community and is actually playable >>549597625
>>549661673>is actually playableif you enjoy 4v5 games I guess
THIS JANUARY...WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE...
>>549661840When did they add cosmetics to tf2c
>>549661181>lowest hours still has enough players for 2 active servers>meanwhile retail tf2 is nothing but idlebots during those hours
how much money does it cost to play team fortress 2
>>549661840Heavy after the bottom surgery be like:>alright...WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!
>>549662170You pay with your soul.
>>549662054Cope.
>>549662410no i mean whats the retail price of a team fortress 2 subscription in dollars (USD)
Rare Eric Smith sighting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7Mw0OjOYY&t=5777s
>>549661837Better than being banned or forced to play modded servers with lgbt badges
>>549663468never been banned or forced to play on any server
>>549662450YOU are the one coping for weeks that that a free community mod of tf2 doesn't appeal to you specifically and you are missing out on some of the most tf2 fun possible from it
>>549561748https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/comments/3593391553Nutcracker devs won't redo the voicelines, just fix a bug with the Administrator interrupting the announcerWhy? Because the voice actor is an incredible person and put lots of love into his work, of course! Poor guy is probably 14 and would cry if they told him his voice acting sucks :(
Call em nutcracker the way they're busting my balls
Ugh... I'm not sure if swallowing all those TF2 players for immortality was a good idea, my stomach is really starting to hurt... I think I'm gonna, gonna-*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
Hey... I asked for nuts but your Pyro here doesn't have any...
Just bought two tickets to the Nut show, and I'm not giving 'em to ye, I'm going with YOUR nuts!
>>549664047>harvest men's nuts>feed them to a 14 year old ESL to make him inflate and kill himself>transcend human mortalitywhat did the tf2 emporium mean by this?
Put da nutcracka on the Borneo shack so IT'S THE NUTSHACK
>>549653307>jarated spy, minicrits useless>no MC on the soldier>no MC on the engi>14 damage minicrit on the sniper, still takes 3 hits instead of 2shotting>3 shots a stationary gibusvision heavy, could have done it with stock>takes 4 shot to kill a stationary unspun heavy, only one of those was a MCgee, i wonder why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcC9bZ_mdjQMobstah when he sees that strunz of a Nutcracka after he didn't make it into the update (Butch is Krampus)
>>549615874Metabolic's back at it again... obviously seething that Vipes won bigly this update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-tjXuvOTwWhich one of you is this
>>549648438These are balsncd updates, even if you call them bugs and are thus out of scope.
>>549667096why are you looking for this kind of content?
>>549667096Based Shupofag
>>549664047https://voca.ro/1teiwfYLgQ4Q
>>549666467>krampus>nutcrackerWhy is Eric so pro-German?
>>549663630Still not playing your faggy mod.
>>549667832Why have you done this
>>549561748>>549563627>>549663667gone are the days of artistic excellence. all we have now, all we GET to have, is endless nepotism, back patting, manufactured demand via clique and committee. The cheap and tawdry, put on par with genuine, time-honoured masterpieces because of petty personal self-gratification and the supremacy of feewings. nothing is to be regarded as grand or beautiful, lest it downplay the supposed value of the mediocre, nothing must be excluded or held to a higher standardi fucking hate the emporium, and i hate Eric Smith for giving up on this games artistic integrity
>>549667572obsessed
>>549668210Eric's ancestor, Erik Schmidt, was on the Mayschnitzel when it got to America. he likes to honor his ancestry
>>549561748I lost this post in the thread and had to listen to this for 2 minutes until I found it again and closed the video.
uh oh...
>>54967313716 years of adding cosmetics you run into two problems>Make similar hats to others already in the gameor>Add unfitting slop but at least it's unique and has never been done beforeI'd say there's only really a handful of ideas that could still be added that are both fitting and unique
>>549673137eric doesn't give a damn
>>549591197As it's really hard to crit a fellow Pyro I think that's out. Gas Passer would be fine if it was gotten on resupply.>>549592462Depending on how expensive it is you might not even need to win. Going to try to have a lot of small sprees on the board this time, $50 was way too difficult for players to get a good list from.>>549593769Direct hit isn't a bad idea, bit worried about resupply though, the retrigger time is like ten seconds iirc, more than long enough to get 2shot. If I can edit the retrigger time that's a possibility.>>549594206I think that would be asking a bit much of the players, to never click M1. Ammomotion isn't bad.>>549604682That's essentially the same as "Wrap assassin, do your best" :P New arena does make this a bit better than the last time we ran it, as well.I'm thinking about a Scottish Resistance and Loose Cannon event, points awarded only in case of a double donk death or any sticky trap. You can push with the cannon into pre-set traps or double the donk into a win. Arena would be a series of trenches, no choke points to put stickies into to the point of lethality, each with some good places to post somebody up with a cannon shot.
>>549673574Nah, Eric needs his shekels.
>>549673137>r/tf2 shitting on the guy that posted thisWe've failed men...
>>549673137The top hat, Spy and Medic ones are valid.Rest not so much.
Smissmas is great.>No contracts>No bullshit gimmicks>Amazing looking maps>Season of giving
>>549676172I only wished that the maps were optimized better
>>549676472abbey gave be framerate problems on point a. Pain in the ass to play directly on point, but was fine everywhere else.
>>549675312r/tf2 more like r/trannies
>>549677089Yes, Abbey is pretty bad on certain parts, hopefully it'll be fixed by the weekend because I want to playyyyyyy.
>>549677151idk man they are posting sovlhttps://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1pjdudn/pleassse_scout_i_need_this_my_health_is_kinda_124/https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1pixh8y/the_cum_man/
>>549677410you're free to go back there then
>>549677746and you are free to suck my dickhttps://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c4/Demoman_laughlong02.wav
>What? You got banned from my server? And you don't like it? What are you, some kind of nigger?
>>549673137I agree with what >>549673574 said where it's been 16 years and eventually they're going to add similar looking hats. Even before the graded hats system there were hats that were near identical to each other (top hats, Demo pirate hats, various fedoras and beanies, etc.) I think part of the issue nowadays is that workshoppers are making items with the intention that they'll be the 'new' version of a previous one in a case no longer available, the first four being great examples of that. Adding cases back into the drop pool would solve this and keep items in rotation.
>>549677410>cosplay>sovlIt's only sovl if it's a woman that makes my weenis twitch
>>549678076The one time I appreciated a clone hat was the Decorated Veteran (specifically the third style). It's an all-class bucket hat that costs a fraction of the Summer hat
>That one nigga in the server spamming gifts and raping my ears>Don't even get anything
>>549678076>That time Valve added the Backbiter's Billycock twiceWhat the FUCK were they thinking?
You'd think mappers would know by now how to optimize their goddamn maps yet almost every new map gives a massive dip in fps, some of them have been mapping for over a decade yet still shit out unoptimized garbage>inb4 get a better pcworks fine on older maps, mappers gotta learn
>>549678076Probably why there's so many Santa hats since the BMOC is like 40$
>>549673137but the CHADphisticated smoker has a cigar!! it promotes smoking, so it's different and worse!!
>>549681872It was always weird the generic ass Santa hat was a limited time event item only distributed to a few accounts
>>549678076>various fedorasThat heavy's fedora is straight up retexture Valve's fedora and the guy fucking got away with it.
Why does every CTF map added since Landfall have such open Intelligence areas that are so easy to grab? The best part of CTF is how long the matches drag out but these newer CTF maps like Frosty or Applejack or Pelican Peak and the latest one added this update all end so quickly.
>>549683578It doesn't really matter, literally every CTF map besides 2Fort and maybe Well have the problem where if there isn't a permanent sentry defending the intel, the intel is free to cap for any scout.
Playing as Scout is really fun.
>Chase someone to matterhorn top>get some fuckhuge frame dip just by looking at lift gearsAbbey A is also ridiculous unoptimized.
>kill the engineer and camp his teleporter exit>hon hon hon>constantly check my back in case someone comes>nothing happens for 5 minutes so i just sap and shoot it >oh but he just so happens to be right at the entrance and stops that one from being destroyedokay yeah fuck you too
>>549689689luck issue
>>549690236well i was being too much of a gamer and it auto balanced me to the losing team when one side was 2-0 on sidewinder
>>549662696why doesn't he have a italian mobster accent, day ruined
festivized g pan my beloved......
>>549680127>guy spamming gifts>bookmark his profile>check it the next day, no gifter hat in his inventory>schaudenfrede irl
>>549689689>upward>red engineer puts a tele spot on the cliff spot>doesn't destroy it>I sit at the teleporter and kill like 8 people before someone finally comes over to stop me>his entrance gets killed>I sit there for a solid 2 minutes waiting for him to eureka to the exit>eventually he does>mfw
>>549665605On the flip side, 2 less shots isn't that big of a downside.
>>549665610How was this gamemode?
>>549680127>>549692201>guy spams so many gifts that everyone gets out of it with at least 20 items and the amount is so fucking high that unless someone else paid nearly a hundred dollars to spam that day the hat is guaranteedthe ref is nice, but i wish there was a way to mark items as untradeable so i dont accidentally autoscrap all of the gifted items, wanna keep at least one y'know?
>>549681278Go back to your Knockout.chat thread, tranny faggot.
>>549701124Why were you there?
>>549701243Laughing at trannies, why else?
>>549676172>>No bullshit gimmicks>>Amazing looking maps...on opposite day
>>549701124based
>>>/v/728063515
>>549701486Suuuuuure
why is this general so deadthe game just got updated
>>549707379We've already discussed the new hats and the new maps suck so we're already out of things to talk about
>>549707379We're all busy getting frags on the new mapsDuh
>>549707465>the new maps sucki like abbeynutcracker is alright minus the atrocious announcer but that doesn't impact gameplay so
Based
>>549707379no MvM update
>>549646072>the admin's motivation is that zeph killed her parentsYou're the one who lacks reading comprehension; they show her with her dead parents but never confirm if he was actually responsible for their deaths or if she just blamed him for them. The whole thing is very non-committal with what actually happened, seemingly as a way to include a "don't dwell on things / learn to let go" message, but that message doesn't really land as well when they spent years setting up the Administrator as having this huge master plan in a game about globe trotting mercenaries and shell companies, only for it to end up being petty revenge that she doesn't remember. Hence a lot of people thought it was unsatisfying.
There was a trans women in my lobby last night and she kept screaming "reeeee foids get the fuck off my game" How do i get a tf2 wife like that?
>>549709976Did you try talking?
valve adding all these festivizers gives me immense hopium for new aussies
>>549710769Stretching Gardevoir's cervix!
>>549710769No, I didn't think of that honestly.
>>549710769egg making yadda yadda
How would (You) fix TF2 if given the chance?
>>549713049by having egg making sex with lucario
>>549713049complete rework of sniper to make him midrange focused like every other class and to steer away from the one shot playstyle.thats it. thats all you need to do
>>549713049remove cosmetics (except world traveler hats with wutville stamps)
>>549710769but if I talk I will lose my dark and mysterious cool top fragger aura
>>549713786more like bottom fragger if you know what i mean
>>549713938Nobody gets what you are talking about.
>>549714143bottom as in penis in your ass
>>549714179oh
>>549714179I still don't get it please go into further specific detail
>>549714657okay so there's a penis, right? and that penis (get this) is entering into your body via your ass
>>549714787that sounds like sodomy and i dont consent to that
>>549715609why not
>>549715609Well yeah, that's why it's called sodomy
>>549620569>>549621879>>549644161>no!!! TF2 maps NEED to be semi-arid deserts in the American southwestRead the room pals. Look at all the Peaky Blinders cosmetics, TF2 doesn't take place in New Mexico anymore, it's set in England.
>>549716314shit postsexy shupo
>>549716314Strawman argument, you can have different locations while still respecting the design philosophies of TF2
>>549715707It's gay and I'm not gay.>>549715726I need a dictionary.Now good night nerds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNVN0pEx6fsThe most sovlfvl TF2 video ever. Just think, 20 million people watched this video and were touched.
>>549707379The general does not actually talk about the game. Itโs literally here for the (you)s and the few sad men who have been here since the beginning who probably dont have anything else
>>549717487*women
>>549716478I don't see how it's all that different in artstyle than other maps. Abbey has the same muted color saturation and rough geometry of early TF2 maps. The biggest difference is just the location.
>>549717016>and I'm not gay...why not?
>>549717806Because older maps, even if they were in a different location, always kept elements of RED and BLU owning the location. The colors were not "the same muted colors," you would have hues of red and brown to represent RED and hues of blue and blue gray to represent BLU, along with the companies' iconography. This is due to the fact that RED and BLU owned bases all over the world and were not just fighting over random locations.Even on Degroot Keep which has similar stonework, the flags denoting the points have big bright red colors symbolizing RED owning that castle.Abbey has no evidence of the teams being involved with it whatsoever. It just looks like a random location.
How can I raffle keys for /tf2g/?
>>549719993Go to scrap.tfSelect create raffle and then private raffleKeep the type as secret link or secret link + password and make the password something only tf2g would knowSet the duration to a short time like 2 hours max OR announce in advance when you're gonna do it and do even shorterFinally put the link in an image so it can't be scraped by jewgle and botsThose are the best ways to try to keep it tf2g specific
>>549719290>RED and BLU need to have different architectural aestheticsOnly symmetrical maps ever do this, and many symmetrical maps don't. It's a motif used in TF2 maps but not a defining feature of them.
>>549720349Are you retarded? I wasn't just talking about architectural aesthetics I was talking about colors and iconography. And I literally gave you an example of an asymmetrical map with a castle that follows the same philosophies. I think the porn addiction is clouding your brain.
>>549720349>Only symmetrical maps ever do thisobjectively false
>>549720181Never mind, I ain't using scrap.tf.
>>549720871The only other option is mannco.store and they make you join their stupid discord server just to access raffles.RIP TF2R
>>549720557>I was talking about colors and iconographyBoth of those are part of architectural aesthetics.>Degroot Keep follows this philosophyThat's a bad example, it's just a tiny meme map so it's hard to say it's emblematic of the rest of the game.
>>549721520>Both of those are part of architectural aesthetics.Yes but again, I wasn't just talking about architectural aesthetics. BLU having factories and RED having farms is irrelevant to what I was talking about. The topic of discussion was about colors you moron.>That's a bad example, it's just a tiny meme map so it's hard to say it's emblematic of the rest of the game.I used it as an example of another map that has prominent stonework structures to compare to Abbey, the size of the map is totally irrelevant. Holy shit you ARE retarded.
>>549721774>I used it as an example of another map that has prominent stonework structures to compare to Abbey, the size of the map is totally irrelevant. Holy shit you ARE retarded.Your post was ambiguous. It's not my fault you can't coherently present an argument. And it doesn't make any sense to say they have "similar stonework" when the masonry is completely different between the two maps.
>>549722668You are either totally braindead from your porn addiction or purposefully pretending to be retarded so you have an excuse to post more porn.Did I say it was exactly the same stonework you stupid nigger? No, I said it was similar. Your OWN argument was about early TF2 maps having "the same color saturation and rough geometry" so I specifically chose TWO early TF2 maps that prove you wrong on both fronts and one that even features a castle so you couldn't hand wave it away being a different kind of architecture. Get a clue.
uh oh melty
>>549722896trvth nvke
turbo autists arguing about the brickwork of a level in an 18 year old video game. this is why i love 4chan
>>549722896>Did I say it was exactly the same stonework you stupid nigger? No, I said it was similar.But you're wrong. Abbey uses fired clay bricks and Degroot Keep uses cobblestones. That's like saying a glued-laminated building is similar to a log cabin, they are completely different.
>>549723939Okay I'm convinced now that your gimmick is the latter of pretending to be retarded and glossing over every point made so you have an excuse to post more porn.
>>549720349>Only symmetrical maps ever do thisthis nigga doesn't even play TF2
Working on a new A/D map for summer '26. Thoughts?
>>549725336Looks good, fits the muted color saturation and rough geometry of early TF2 maps.
>>549725336Unironically though you could probably make cache work as a TF2 map. It already looks a little bit like Granary mid, if you gave it painted pastel textures and a more cartoony background, it would be acceptable in TF2.
>>549553887"Where are you aiming?" is a stupid questionโ It's the place instinct points to atop destiny. That bare exposure, in the gap between restraint and liberation, Simply, freely, purely seeks the fighting life
>>549727551jesse what the fuck are you talking about
Dead General. Sniper General.
>>549701124I don't know who that is but maps running like shit is a fact and not some tranny delusion
4 = name0 = desc
>>549738719gay axe
>>549738719Eric Smith
>>549713049absolutely shooting for the stars here, like asking a mall santa for a ferrari, but here goes>return quickplay with some updated ui graphics>give the server browser a visual touch-up>finish the tutorial mode to include all 9 classes, in the style of half-life opposing forces bootcamp, with the tf2 mercs as your guide (fan impressions if need be)>de-bloat the cosmetics>make maps seperated into dlc packs, with only popular classics being downloaded on install >instate a regular community vote on the map pool to keep things fresh>replace ctf_2fort with ctf_bluefort (call it ctf_2fort_redux, relegate old 2fort to "badlands classics" dlc pack, alongside dustbowl, hoodoo, and other old maps that obviously werent balanced for the current game)>bunch of other QoL improvements, more organized options menus, better default settings, easy direct wepons 4 scrap trading instead of clunky crafting system>repair and upgrade replay system>make majority of old taunts free>contracts to unlock every sidegrade in the game (the phlog one requires you learn how to airblast lmao)>summer update with a couple well-polished maps and no more, weapon rebalances, a few new weapons for under-served classes>every sniper rifle has the machina tracer beam now>halloween: 1 new well polished and playtested map, maybe a boss, nothing more>smissmas update: some un-themed hats, taunts, warpaints, and unusuals, no new maps>do something about idle bots inflating the player count>begin source 2 port in earnest, even if its gonna take years, at least the game will be in a better statealso, cute lucario, would rub fluffy belly
>>549738719Epstein won
>>549738719And so did Mechawreck
>>549739664>>549739780
>>549709976>she>wife
>>549739224>>make maps seperated into dlc packs, with only popular classics being downloaded on installMy TF2 folder is only 35 GB when many games on Steam are 100+ GB (GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, War Thunder, etc.) There's no practical reason to turn maps into separate downloads. If you want to reorganize them in other ways, that's fine though.
>>549726761
why is tf2g so dead?
>>549738763>>549739106was afk
What do the kraut words mean
>>549743854Unfortunately we only have 12 rooms available
>>549741612oh i guess my hard drive space is just tiny then(my hd is like 256 gb IIRC)
>>549743854fleegin smogglen floogen smoogen
>>549739224>>contracts to unlock every sidegrade in the game (the phlog one requires you learn how to airblast lmao)>sidegrade>mfw i can't unlock the hippocratic oath or the third degree
Had a dream where valve completely fixed casual but zesty and gabber started complaining about the tutorial instead
>>549747398>the hippocratic oath1. that's not what it's called2. it's not an upgrade anymore
>>549739224>Aiming for the mud here:I feel like "realistically"(insofar as getting Valve to sign off on anything that isn't just additions from the workshop) adding more features to Casual to make it less shitty would be better than RETVRNING to Quickplay. The whole ecosystem of community servers doesn't exist anymore and has no chance of returning after being sidelined for so long. Casual sucks but the playerbase numbers and engagement that made Quickplay vibrant simply isn't here in 2025. At minimum I'd like Valve to enable votes for shit like team scramble and longer match timers/play to more points so that you aren't wasting a ton of time queueing or AFK in pregame waiting for the server to fill
>>549748129quickplay wasn't just community servers, the current ecosystem doesn't matter
>>549561748https://youtu.be/ySH3yeluMl8?t=1239>Zesty INSTANTLY d/c'd when he entered the Nutcracker map and heard the voiceBased or is Zesty being an asshole?
>>549748793both
>>549748129>The whole ecosystem of community servers doesn't exist anymore and has no chance of returning after being sidelined for so long.harsh realitycommunity servers were more comparable surrogate chatrooms prior to 2015, it's why everyone is so nostalgic but unable to recreate it because that type of community vibe has moved to instagram and discord entirely but nobody likes to think about it this way cuz its true
>go to community browser>servers are either completely full or completely empty
>>549748213>quickplay wasn't just community serversSure, but in your view what else was it?>the current ecosystem doesn't matterIf that's true then we'd have a lot of populated Minecraft and Mario Kart servers>>549750119Gamer "culture" has also moved on. Shooter games today are extremely task-oriented to the point where not pulling your weight is a reportable --> bannable offense. Don't get me wrong salty faggots hopping on mic to sperg about their shitty team have always existed but the mentality of "just log into a random server and then goof off" that fed into Quickplay era's vibe is totally deadPossibly due to the e-sports mind virus or some other factors but most modern shooter games' playerbase behave like they're only a handful of wins away from going pro and it makes them insufferable
>>549751708>not pulling your weight is a reportable --> bannable offensei learned this the hard way trying to get in to marvel rivalsoh well lol
>>549751708>Sure, but in your view what else was it?a quick way to play / get into a game
>>549752087You can still do that, casual takes like 10~ seconds for me to queue US west coast
>>549752572I know, the getting into a match part isn't the issue
morning gamemorning general
'cario game'cario general
>>549758009I think Cerberus is the best helltaker
>>549758676sheโs cute. I wonโt argue that.
Gonta
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2019498104How hard is the Emporium crew seething about Vipes getting this lvdo kino fallovt nevv vegas cosmetic added to the game?
what do pyro players do for fun when they're not airblastingit seems like they're just walking around until someone important can make it down their list of priorities and shoot them to death with their real gun like idk how you can progress the game as pyro
>>549763179I don't know, I'm not in their Discord.
>plr_cutter was the best map in 2024 smissmas>plr_matterhorn is the best map on 2025 smissmas>nightfall & pipeline still in alternative gamemode purgatory
>>549667165yet they fixed the caber which you can argue is a balance update so theirs no excuse now
>>549667165But they are bugs, they're things that are not intended to happenHogging a wall shouldn't halve Pyro's damagePoint blank range shouldn't reset your damage ramp-upReflected projectiles can deal absurd amount of damage to Pyro because the damage calculations are wrong, Valve only bothered fixing it for rockets leaving other projectiles still buggedBesides, even post-Blue Moon they've fixed bugs that affect a weapons viability>Engi no longer consuming metal when redeploying a building and hitting it>Wrap Assassin not instantly shattering because of map entities>Iron Bomber hitbox>Gas Passer counting as wet for the Neon Annihilator
>>549764034I am, and some people here are grossly overestimating how much the emp people care about vipes
>>549772906
Is The Emporium the deep-state of TF2 or something
When I saw this icon I thought it was going to be a new thing that uses a decal :(
>>549775123theres some retards who desperately need it to be to explain why their own shit items aren't picked by valve
>>549777395you need to go back
For this Smissmas, I am grateful for the no hats mod letting me disable most slop in the game, the custom cosmetic disabler for making it easy to choose what to keep and remove, and the casual preloader for letting me do so in casual as well
thats thanksgiving retardfor this smissmas i want all the bots gone foreverial permanently this time and also all enigger mains to be sent to hell for making tf2 worse and unjollywhen i dont like someones hat i kill them for it because my ancestors conquered the stars but its harder to do that if theyre hiding behind an aimbot
>he isn't grateful during Christmasngmi, expect coal in your stocking
When was the last time we got a hat that actually fit the tf2 artstyle? First time in ages and its an elite class lmao
>>549780362Almost a sphinx riddle in its deceit, but the answer is: we never had a hat that fit the TF2 artstyle.Itโs all slop.
>>549773234Can we have context for those messages?Either way>gets attacked by emporium>tries to speak out about attack>years pass>still lives rent free in emporiumโs mindI swear, heโs as big of a boogeyman to them as Zesty is and I have no fucking clue why. Vipes is a left leaning furry. The same shit the Emporium dumbasses are. Yet they hold so much contempt for him.
>>549781349> Yet they hold so much contempt for him.Because he tried speaking out about the bad shit going on in the Emporium. When he was in it, it was an open secret that Emporium members would gang stalk workshoppers they didnโt like, the two most known to do so being Drew and Metabolic. Instead of joining like everyone else or keeping his head down, he tried to speak out and pointed out that it wasnโt right. I should know, I was there. I even remember the workshopper he tried to defend, as they kept plastering his personal info and Facebook in the discord.https://steamcommunity.com/id/vaultshadow/myworkshopfiles/?appid=440Yeah the guyโs dogshit at modeling but you donโt go fucking doxxing people because you donโt like their lack of ability.Thatโs another thing that pissed me off about the Emporium. They kept crying about how doxxing and harassing is bad, yet they always did it so openly in the Discord. Thatโs why the channels kept getting purged and deleted, to cover that shit up.
>>549763179>>549773234>>549781349It's weird how much Diva Dan seethes about Vipes unprompted. I'm convinced he's in on the whole thing.
>>549782351>and thatโs why people copy himAlready trying to rewrite history I see. He only claimed Metabolic and Drew stole from him, and he only did it twice.
>>549782351>>549773234This faggot is unironically known for stealing others shit, why do tranny faggots always outwardly attack others for the same shit they do? It happens even on tf2g with certain posters.
better question: who cares
>>549782351>Projecting when his magnum opus is literally a reference to a cartooncoal
>>549782351Heโs probably one of the few people that come here just to shitpost about Vipes or do damage control
>>549773234>>549782351Diva Dan is a two faced faggot. When posting where Vipes can see, he tried toโbeing on his sideโ. I remember reading a conversation between them on YouTube or Twitter or BlueSky whatever. But behind closed doors he shits on him constantly because he knows he canโt see it. Is he really that afraid of someone whoโs a tiny speck compared to him?
>>549782509>>549783551He always tries to downplay anything that happened to Vipes>oh the concepts weren't stolen he just picked generic concepts from video games! it's a coincidence even though the people making similar concepts are stalking him>oh he wasn't REALLY homeless he was just in the middle of buying a house when the bank account fraud happened and said he was homeless>oh there's zero proof any of it happened it's just... somewhat true>>549782580>why do tranny faggots always outwardly attack others for the same shit they do? They hope it'll throw suspicion off of themselves
>>549783597>oh there's zero proof any of it happened it's just... somewhat trueThat one gets me the most. Thereโs tons of proof, they even admit that it has happened. But then in the same sentence say itโs not true and didnโt happen. And it works. It worked for years. I remember the discrediting shit they tried to run years back, saying Vipes was a pedo or other things, and when people asked for proof, they just sourced an earlier post of them saying the same exact shit. That was their only proof, and for a time people, us included, bought it.
>>549783597>>549783551I really don't get how people like this who create content for the game can go about still letting someone they clearly wronged live rent free in their head.They've openly admitted already he was wronged, and still somehow think now that it's been a while it's ok to turn around and take it back
>>549782635clearly the people over at the emporium
>>549784078The difference is now Zesty and Vipes are talking about it publically, and they think they have the "reputation" of the Emporium to protect. So now they're going back on it and pretending it didn't happen.I remember when Zesty pointed out Drew was still in their server and they silently kicked him from the server to try and absolve themselves.
>>549784078Still donโt get how Vipes is on the same tier of hatred that Zesty is, considering both are completely polar opposites. Not to mention Zesty has a fan base. Vipes? Heโs a small fry they shouldnโt even be worrying about. A nobody. He has no fans, he has no support. Why?
>>549784865Perps usually tend to downplay their crimes and do their best to make victims second guess themselves, it's basic psychology.
>>549784865Because heโs living proof they fucked up and are a bunch of bad people. Itโs not about how big or beloved Vipes is. Heโs living evidence they canโt get rid of, so theyโll do their best to discredit and discourage as much as they can, even if it means forging and making shit up.
>>549763179https://youtu.be/Ig7DljSM2-U
>>549784621>someone should tell him that meanie poopoo head has been permabanned since forever>oh, he's still here? Now THAT'S weird.>I'm sure the reason he's here is that he apologized>surely>oh, he never did?>well, it wasn't that big of a deal anyway>he's cool now
>>549784520they should keep it there instead of spamming it here then
>>549785365I wish it was satire but their brains do not work
>>549785365Ah, gotta love discord where you can say the most blatant, harmful lies and get away with it 100% of the time because anyone who would call you out is banned and unable to view the chat.
Someone should make a Terry Tate Office Linebacker cosmetic set for Demo to see if Eric would instantly add itEZ money right there
I say it, and I say it again. We need to get tf2tubers talking about this. That Zesty Emporium video isnโt coming out, and BigBoi did an absolute shitshow of a video covering what all happened. If anything he added more fuel to the fire and gave the Emporium more sympathizers.
>>549785552you can make your own server and rules :-)
>>549674875https://strawpoll.com/QrgewGlqjyp
>>549785951Yeah every time I say something like that, or how forums are better, one of you comes out of the woodwork to make some limp wristed attempt to defend shitcord. You know, the reason we have a major grooming problem now, because kids are on it and no one can see what's fucking going on in servers unless they go out of their way to infilitrate them.If you told parents 15 years ago that their kids are on a chatroom talking with adults then they'd freak out. Discord has also been used to organize harrassment and spread total lies against people like Vipes.
Soap Dispenser going up!*Takes a fat puff*Well, guess that'll do...
>>549784621You heard it here first folks. Getting justice for someone who was doxxed, harassed, made homeless, character assassinated, and reputation dragged through the mud counts as a hate movement. A hate movement to who? Stop asking questions and protect us!
>>549784621Drew was the only one they kicked. Metabolic is still in there. Metabolic even constantly jokes about the shit heโs done, and still is doing to Vipes in the discord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoeDRO7-ERoInteresting vid
>>549725336>muted pallet>industrial>team colorsWAY better than most modern maps
anyone have the black zesty png?
>>549787402we need a black diva dan (liam moffitt)
>>549787402plenty on >>>/hm/
[Rumor] Eric will announce the MVM update at The Game Awards tonight
Hi I'm Eric Smith, I'd like to show you somethingIntroducing...The Itemtest Update
>>549787739I kind of feel a sense of catharsis after realizing that Valve's neglect of TF2 was the direct result of them working on their masterpiece megaproject, Half Life 3. Did you really think Valve would do you wrong?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R95f7VwXqIw
>>549758194non egg making sex with lucario
>Breaking Bad Soundtrack
Jill, I don't know man, you've been seeming competitive lately, it's almost like we have a matchmaker among us. I saw that you- DON'T LIE TO ME, JILL! You neato baka!
>>549789723Breaking Bad is based because /ourtripfag/ is a huge fan of it. Also, the best item in TF2 is a Breaking Bad reference.
>>549787739>they and thems welcome to the game awards>brought to you directly from valve studios>we're glad to show you what they've been working on that was worth the wait>lights go out, the audience goes silent, suspense is in the air>marvel type intro starts playing showing all the tf2 characters>in a robotic voice: who am i you ask? hehe you can call me... the robstah!>the crowd starts laughing hysterically, the floor starts to crack open, long shadowy hands pop out, they start grabbing people and begin dragging them into hell>gabe newell limps to the stage with an oxygen tank grabbing the microphone>thanks and have fun!
>>549789723reddit game
I think the Nutcracker voice acting is endearing. A subtle trvthnvke reminder that, nearly 20 years later, this game's community is still dominated by pasty white nerd outcasts with annoying voices that activate Chad's primal bullying instincts.
>>549791120>white nerdThe "VA" is Greek
>>549791196Never mind. Can we petition Eric to have the map struck from the update or is it too late?
Game Awards Valve segment leakhttps://vocaroo.com/11IB7h5oJHBS
>>549791463HOLY FUCK IT'S HAPPENING FINALLY!
Festivised objector
>>549792463holy trans
>>549791120While the voice acting is definitely bad, you have to remember that community servers used to communicate messages with plaintext popups on your screen. Even with a horrible microphone and a horrible German accent, it's still better than what I'm used to when it comes to custom gamemodes. I think a lot of the replies to this are excessive >>549561748
>>549792463Kino
>>549794247Everything after pedos is a word salad.
>>549794247How would that fix TF2?
>>549792463what map is that? looks nice
>>549794878Lilycove City. It's on the workshop and I think other sites. From Pokรฉmon RSE. Sad I haven't found a server to play it on.
>>549794676lefty memes are just like that
>>549792463>"Fempyro is not trans coded">the least tranny person on tf2g.jpg
>>549795135nta but i used to play on a gr15 server about ten years ago that frequently ran a fair few pokemon maps like that, though not that one specifically
>>549786117>>549674875You forgot about my suggestion>>549593887
>>549795347He doesn't even have fempyro installed you obsessed schizo
It's that time of year again
>>549795491What's gr15? I used to play on a Goldenrod server years ago but I think it's gone now.
>>549795347:3
just what did jill bribe eric with to stay hired at valve? i don't think all the pink cookies in the world would've been enough.
>>549797121global rule 15
:3
>>549797453shut up jill
>>549797453you will be my wife
Jill likes 15 year olds shaking their ass
>>549796916>fempyro sign and hud>spazzes out and projects onto merelax sister, no need to get offended ur just like her fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udrYT_t-NrkNew TF2 rant
>>549798439wtf jill was actually based all along?
>>549798891NTA but this is what's on my objector
>>549799532still on ur hud and that image is so u too ma'am
>>549799532i don't like the spots on her hair that makes me uncomfortable
Can't wait for blog post #3 reminding us that the MvM update is coming guys!
>>549553887so uhhh, have they just given up making good maps now? anything goes yeah?
Soonโข
heavy update...
>>549798439wtf I love 6v12 matches now
>>549799905>its been 3 years already since the last comicTFpoo sisters... i think we have been abandoned (AGAIN)
Mobstah update...
Gonna eat an entire bag of assorted nuts then brap loudly while playing on Nutcracker
>>549796723Fair, I did. Trimping next event.>>549786117Direct Hit won, all hail our tournament format for the end of year Tournament.As usual steam shopping sprees will be hidden behind prizes on the board, with the crap tools guaranteeing sprees and the taunts guaranteeing not having anything behind em. As always we'll be playing December 31st, starting at 6pm this year. Loot board is here>>549581683
>>549782351>NGL that pyro set is the most vaginlly dehydrating pyro pick in a minuteGuys itโs only slop when itโs not out items!
Ok nvm i can play accordion music on top of some other accordion music with a demoman, this map is EPIC!
>21 years after Team Fortress Mod, Team Fortress 2 came out>it has now been 18 years since TF2 came outIf they made a Team Fortress 3 for 2028, (not saying they should, I'm saying if) what sort of style should they go for? Keep with the TF2 style but HD, or do a different nostalgic era and concept for their motif? I feel like they have to make it their own thing somewhat, given they've given all the characters conclusions and half the voice cast is dead, but I don't know what they'd do for the style now.
>>549773234Curious what the contest is for the second message and the third one.
>>549798439Spice and Wolf has fallen. Billions of apples must be eaten.
>2025 about to end>Game still plagued with bots>Still no Heavy update>Comic #7 in limbo forever>Quickplay not back
>>549801529>Comic #7 in limbo foreverWhat did he mean by this
>>549801529>Game still plagued with tranniesftfy
>>549801614Yeah I dunno, got me to check though, comic 7 been out for a year now.
>>549797096Dude I still have this saved from last year hahah>Error: Duplicate file exists. here.Nvm just imagine it's your anime girls TF2 edit but it's on my pc and not yours
>>549801529>t. asleep since 2023
>>549801396AWOOOOOOOGAAAAAJILLY LIKEY LIKEYUOHHHHHHHHH T o T
>>549801529https://www.teamfortress.com/tf07_thedayshavewornaway/A year late but enjoy
>>549802628I don't get it
>>549802965two unashamed straight men with matching profile pics
>>549802628Based.
>>549803438You didn't post their profile pics, so I didn't know whether it was matching or not. Yeah it's either two low testosterone stinky weeaboo men or just two getting girls (females) doing their uwu kawaii gimmick
>>549804176Genuine* not getting. I'm sleepy
>>549804176god i hope they were girls i love girls @@r3333
patchie sabotaged my cas sesh
>Updated plr_matterhorn>Bread optimization
Where's the 8th comic9 classes, there must be 9 comics
I am not making this up, within 1 minute of me joining a 24/7 2fort server, the following things were mentioned>4chan>pol>israel>BBCNA bros, we got to talk...
>>549805721those are normal discussion topics now, unless you prefer talking about furry porn and kids
>>549805721those are all the same thing
>Nothing about removing Nutcracker or muting the voiceover
>>549805820strange reply.
>>549586447>>549586265
>>549805943Mappers said they wouldn't because he's a good friend and really tried >>549663667
"Why the nut obsession," you ask? Well, as you can see, I'm a freakin' nutcracker.
>>549805943>>549806180marge
>>549805997I mean have you ever been to uncletopia or the kitty pound. they're basically made for that
Daโ Nutstuhโฆ
>>549806478built for that*
>>549806736this holiday season is about to get nutty
>>549806993just like my wife
Opinions about Flying Colors? Thought about snagging it off the store, it looks cool but I wouldn't know when to spam it.
>>549808129it is the "aura farm" taunt as the normalfags say.so in other words use it as an ego point farmer.
>>549807965is she miss pauiling?
i'm already pauling
>>549808885late 2010s ptsd from that reference
>>549809048
>>549798891>retard can't identify characters and just thinks everything is fempyroyou are mentally ill
scary
>>549809525mama mia, calm down already you're her
>>549812163listen I know you're obsessed with her but neither helltaker characters nor that leopard character are fempyro, you're just schizophrenic
