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>>549775459Super Hero was a mistake.
Manga TOP was a mistake.
Hiring Toyotaro was a mistake.
>We'll never live in the timeline where dragongarowlee gets to draw the DBZ sequel which happens post EoZ from chapter oneBros...
>>549777059The Super manga in general was a mistake.
Goku was a mistake
Marrying towa was a mistake
CHADgon CHAD GODper.
>>549778118i'd prefer fenyo_n, even though he's already working on dragon quest
This looks like some fanmade shit, whatthahell
>>549785048Ultra Instinct Gokhan Beast...
What are the chances of a DB announcement at The Game Awards today?
>>549785475Zero.
>>549778118>>549785045Dragongarowlee is a better mangaka and imitator than Toyotaro, but he's still fairly flawed and I imagine a monthly serialization would kill him.Fenyo does good key art, but I doubt he'd transition well to being a mangaka.Nakatsuru is really the best choice, especially since he already did an imitation manga (Brief Return of Dr. Slump).
>>549785048Is that a yugioh card?
>>549786206Leaked V-Jump cover, probably just a packin card for it
>>549785260This was Toriyama's original vision of Final Gohan btw
>>549778118The ultimate blackpill is that a passing the torch to a competent mangaka was never in the cards. In Japan, young boys didn't dream of drawing Dragon Ball, they dreamed of drawing their own manga. The real talent got their own successful series going in their 20s (for the bulk of the OG Dragon Ball fans it would have been late 90s-00s), not spent decades as dojinshi artists drawing imitation of someone else's work.
Who can beat Super 17?
>>54978921417 (Super) certainly can
>>549789214this guy, apparently
>>549789435So funny how GT made a roided Android 17 who is a match for SS4 despite one single 17 being (according to GT itself) "half the power" the full fusion has and yet in Super Toriyama said "you know if 17 actualy did exercise he would get stronger" and boom, normal 17 became even stronger than that lmao
>>549789214the top result on youtube for "no one can beat me when i'm super 17" is still the one with a frame of incest porn, and that amuses me greatly
>>549790724What?
>>549790630You know it's weird to me that people shit on 17 for being cracked when RoF showed that's just how this works. If your resting biological powerlevel is higher you can just train to be blue level. If anything it's weirder 17 isn't way stronger. a SUPER 17 if you will
I miss DBFZ days...
>>549791108>>549790630I always headcanonned that the androids, similarly to their infinite energy resource, are also the only characters with a truly infinite power cap. 17 and 18 could theoretically train to one-shot Goku if given enough time
>>549792973dragonball isn't multiverse, power caps aren't a thing in this series. Tien could spend a thousand years in the hyperbolic time chamber and oneshot goku
>>549793105I understand that from a meta narrative standpoint if the story necessitated it, but I don't think that's true canonically
>>549793897We don't have anything that implies that's a thing, though. Dragonball has basically zero hard rules in general much less with its power system
>>549791108It's just weird for him to have grown so strong, yet future 17 was hunting humans and fighting Gohan and Trunks, yet he's a shitter.
>>549794494everyone is weaker in that timeline than they should be, don't think about the future timeline if you value your sanity
>>549794140Well we have the Saiyan's finding the upper cap of specific forms, which implies that there is an eventual cap to everyone that can only be passed through new forms. If Goku never unlocked SSG he would still be canonically capped at sub-buu. Same would be true for everyone's current forms, which is where, in my headcanon, the androids would differ and explain why 17 is so powerful in the ToP
>>549794494Knowing about higher levels of power will make you push harder. Present 17 got absorbed and after that he's probably like, yea fuck that shit never happening again. Future 17 was like Frieza who saw no reason to improve himself. Gohan in that future was also way weaker too compared to main Gohan now.
>>549794995Gohan just jacked off with piccolo for a while and he hit vaugely blue tier. Vegeta's 2 was able to match up to goku's 3 if he really tried. There are no caps, there are no rules, just shit that happens
Everyone actually has a limit and that has been mentioned multiples times, this is canon. The thing is that everyone, with enough effort, can break those limits.
>>549795535then that just functionally means there are no limits for the purpose of this conversation
>>549795446Well to be fair Mystic Gohan kinda has his own shit going on. He doesn't really scale right no matter how you try to cut it. >There are no caps, there are no rules, just shit that happensObviously yeah, but again that's only true in the meta of writing DB scripts, it doesn't actually mean that Videl could train hard enough to pass Beerus just because there are no rules
>>549795730Not exactly, breaking a limit requires plot to say it's the moment for the character to reach that level (usually via transformation). Had Gero not made the androids Goku wouldn't have reached Buu's level seven years later, he would have reached his limit, but he had special training and the plot said it was time for him to break some limits, and thus he became way stronger and even learned two new forms.It's not as simple as a continuous power increase as time passes, when you hit a plateau you either have the plot on your side or you are stuck.
>>549785890Nakatsuru is old. He was 53 when Super began.
>>549785890As far as fights go, I really really like the guy that does/did Heroes.Him and Toyo should collab on whatever the next manga series is.
>>549796434His characters look like chinese knock off toys but his backgrounds and effects are pretty nice, he would unironically be a great assistant and elevate the manga so much
Daima should've had occasional cutaways to the side characters on earth getting into misadventures as babiesIt would've evoked the spirit of original Dragon Ball way more than whatever they were trying to do with the demon realm
>>549796281So he's around 10 years older than Toyotaro? That's not that bad.
>>549796949I didn't even see the point of transforming everyone besides the main cast. Hell, I don't even see the point of transforming anybody but goku
>>54979714516
>>549796281He should have beee making the 2000s Dragon Ball manga when Toriyama stopped, but that old coot in charge put a ban on the Dragon Ball anime/manga production since then.What an idiot.
>>549777461trvke
>>549797286They wanted to transform a few specific characters for the story but the wording of the wish would've been weirdly specific that a blanket wish on everyone was easier. That and they could sell more chibi merch I guess.
Toyotaro somewhat reminds me of this guy.
>>549789214Super 18
>all this build up just to do an OC form with gold fur and red eyes instead of LBSSJ4 or DSSJ4sadge. into the trash it goes.
>>549800971i am frankly amazed you read all that and thought it was somehow going to end with an official form
>>549801079it wasn't even that long! it was like 8-10 pages of SSJ4 Goku fighting black-haired Ultra Instinct Goku. i thought the natural progression would be LBSSJ4 or DSSJ4 vs white-haired Ultra Instinct.
Do people think Daima actually looks better than One Piece or is it a cope?
>>549804110I think you could say that Daima is better if you don't really prefer the seizure inducing animation that modern One Piece has, but I think that's ridiculous since it fits Dragon Ball (especially since most of One Piece's fights are literally just lasers, auras, explosions, and being slammed into mountains and rocks).
>>549804743I really hope one of the announcements IS a DBS remake and they actually put aside their blatant favoritism. I remember when the Heroes anime was airing as One Piece's Wano arc was going on. We watched in real time as they brought in Super Saiyan 4 Vegito and had him team up with Vegtio Blue to fight Super Saiyan 4 Broly and it looked like some shitty filler episode while One Piece got shit like this every single episode.
I wonder if the new DB game will be teased tonight
>>549804110NoDaima looks beautiful and is probably the best animated stuff we've gotten out of a DB showBut One Piece is on another level, Toei treasures that shit
Does anyone play DBFZ in here? Or is it completely dead in here?
>>549800921Imagine the pussy
>>549808506Imagine that her clit is bigger and longer than your own dick
>>549799316Sylux is the Granolah of Metroid
>>549804110It looks way better.>>549808143>But One Piece is on another level,It's vastly inferior, anon.
Bros...
everytime i think of broly i just think of THE O WHY WONT YOU MOVE THE OBEGONE FROM THIS WORLD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHH
GTamales...
>>549811815>KAKAROT, I CHOOSE YOU TO BE THE FIRST OF MY VICTIMS! AHAHAHAHAHA!>KAKAROT, HOW MUCH DO YOU LOVE YOUR SON?he's so goddamn cool
>>549813992I swear that SS4 Goku is traced from a gacha and the SSB from the manga or something what the fuck
Just had a thought, history is gona repeat in a weird way if we get a DBS Kaii. We had DBZ, GT and DB Kai back in the day and the modern run we have DBS and Daima so far. The circumstances that gave us Kai was cause the parties wanted a new series and Toriyama didn't want to make something. Right now he's gone so it's kinda the same thing. At least there hasn't been a new dragon ball evolution yet.
>>549811815What if Broly inherited Paragus's mustache?
>>549817358who's to say he hasn't? We know goku and vegeta shave after all
>>549808945and more sensitive
>>549811815That's literally how he should have looked given he was never a berserker, just a lunatic
So when are we getting anything announced?
>>549811815Same energy
>>549811815The weapon that surpasses Super Saiyan (Friendship Boost x4)
>>549817358>>549818570There should really be a filler episode where everyone has moustaches for no reason.
>>549824129E-even the girls?
>>549824631ESPECIALLY the girls
>>549809598>Bejita! I've been waiting for this!
What's that smell? Oh it's the other world!
I think a Ranma 1/2 crossover would be neat
>>549824129I want pan to show up with the thickest biker gang ass beard ever learning to grill with piccolo drinking *non alcoholic* beer
>>549816046That SSB one's 1000% a Toyotaro trace. That face and those eyes are a dead giveaway.
Bump
Surprised nobody posted Multiverse's latest "however"
>>549852664
>>549852664It's just not really fun to shit on the specials unless it's something extra bad like broly wank or the bojack specials, I just do not give a single fuck about gast or his antics.
>>549852664Of course it's the shitty OC that saves the day. I can't care less
>>549852871Normally I'd agree, but 21 showing up made me curious. How would Salad Gear fuck it up? Can't say I saw that coming kek.
>>549852664>Younger Gero doesn't look like Android 13Cringe Salagir.
Honestly though this does make me kind of wonder why we've never seen a design of an older Vomi. Unless we're supposed to believe that it was a weird age gap romance thing. >>549853219Where does that come from anywyas.
>>549853325Just a fandom theory, feels like something DBM would include considering shit like third form King Cold being stronger than SS Goku.
>>549852664That vomi a cute
>>549853491it's such an insanely common fandom theory that I assumed it was based off of something, though. Like maybe it was sort of implied in a guidebook or something. Is it truly just entirely fanon?
>>549853491Honestly going by this picture I don't even think the theory works that well purely off visuals. You can see pretty clearly that Gero has a fairly jawline compared to android 13 and they don't look that similar in facial strucure either. I kind of just went with the whole 13 = gero thing for a while but actually looking at it, it just kind of feels like nonsense?
>>549853325>this does make me kind of wonder why we've never seen a design of an older Vomi.Toriyama himself didn't like how old everyone was in EoZ, so maybe that's part of the reason, as Vomi would look even older than Bulma. The most likely reason is simply that they recycled 21's design into Vomi with no changes since Vomi only showed up in a single picture, and giving her the same design makes her easily recognizable. The Watsonian answer I'd give is that Vomi died young.>Unless we're supposed to believe that it was a weird age gap romance thing. I'm not so sure, Hedo is Gero's grandson, so at most I'd say there was a 20 year gap, certainly not one where Gero would look ancient while being with Vomi.
>>549854564>Toriyama himself didn't like how old everyone was in EoZThen why did he make the buu saga to EoZ timeskip so gigantic
>>549854776he was ready to end the manga, and end it on a note where the reader could imagine new stories continuing on after the last page turned
Honestly the bigger thing that I wonder about gero is why he keeps attaching the faces of his family members to killer death robots. Like shit 16 even had a self destruct mechanism what's up with that. Best thing I can fathom is that 16 looking like gevo was a last minute thing and he wasn't always meant to look like that
>>549854094>You can see pretty clearly that Gero has a fairly jawline compared to android 13 and they don't look that similar in facial strucure either.It's even more noticeable if you check out how Gero looks outside of that fan art, the chin shape is pretty different.>>549854776>Then why did he make the buu saga to EoZ timeskip so giganticI always took his regrets as "I wish I didn't do that back then". Either that or he didn't want to continue telling stories with such an old cast.
>>54985529716 was an Astro Bot situation.
>>549855620never watched that series so you'll have to elaborate
>>549855552if I had to try my absolute hardest to find a connection between the two I guess their hair looks kind of similar? They both have white hair and if you don't think about it too hard gero looks like a longer and more unkempt version of 13's. It's an extreme stretch and they aren't similar at all past that, tho.
>>549855663Scientist who makes robots lose his son, in his grief decide to make a replacement son robot, robot son end up just reminding him of what he lost so he just cope-declare him a failure (despite being his best work ever) and discards him.
>>549855297>Like shit 16 even had a self destruct mechanism what's up with that.I assume Gero initially saw him as just another machine and wanted to create an android with his son's face for poetic revenge, but still did the usual security measures of putting a bomb in him, but then he got attached and didn't want to risk seeing him died (Even though 16 is far and beyond anything he imagined Goku's power would be). Gero didn't destroy him too... Why he didn't remove the bomb is anyone's guess. Even weirder that 16 can activate it at will.
>>549854564I don't like Prime Trunks having a centre part like Future Trunks. he should've kept the side part in his hair to help differentiate him
>>549855926Not only can 16 activate it at will, it seems like it's an intentional programmed response to suicide attack if an opponent was too strong. The mechanical androids like 19 and 16 having bombs at all feels weird. E ighter,17 and 18 sure you cant force compliance on a sapient being but for robots that wouldn't be too hard
>>549855552>13 is based on how Gero imagined how he looked rather than how he actually looked
>>54985615713 doesn't even look like a chadlier version of Gero, though. They just look like entirely different people if you actually sit down and look at them side by side
Also what was Gero cooking with android 15, why does he look like that
>>54985581813's facial structure is also more fitting for a fit man, and I doubt Gero was fit when he was young. He was likely closer to Dr. Briefs in appearance.>>549856114>The mechanical androids like 19 and 16 having bombs at all feels weird. E ighter,17 and 18 sure you cant force compliance on a sapient being but for robots that wouldn't be too hardIt does seem like 19 didn't have a bomb, as he could've tried a suicide bombing on Vegeta.
>>549856547you know it is pretty weird that Gero programmed the androids to feel fear. 19 attempts to run away and is clearly scared of vegeta after getting his arms ripped off. Kind of odd.
>>549856446He's obviously racist
>>549856157>>549856257>Gero imagined his younger self as a buff man who walks around with exposed chest and a completely different face and hairstyleI guess he disposed of 13 once he realized how cringe that was.
>>549856446he a Mack Daddy
>>549856773Gero's ultimate plan was to make Goku's ulcer explode from android 15's racist mexican impression. A truly devious genius
I wonder if Vomi is racist...and if she is, I will correct her...the hard way
>>54985669619 is also programmed to feel joy in torturing his opponent. He's even programmed to be greedy and want to hog all the fights... I guess Gero likes his subjects to rebel a little, and 17 and 18 took it too far?
>>549858185I think it's more that the Artificial Human tech naturally breed rebellion and 19 was just the most controlled.
>DB Legends now has supports>One of the latest additions is Belmod>His special ability is to yap about Jiren's life story for entire minutes to annoy your opponentThat's hilarious. I'm not sure what made the devs think this was a good idea desu, but it is very funny.https://youtu.be/UP-Hoxnskbg?t=274
Someone pointed out that English Cell sounds like The Great Mighty Poo from Conker's bad fur day and it fucked me up
>>549858936That's what you get for watching dubbed anime
>>549858847I thought the gameplay itself would be interrupted for minutes... Still, two minutes of yapping. Jiren's background is not that long...
>>549859193I never said I disliked it
>"Jiren's parents were slaughtered by a powerful foe, but he was spared and was rescued by a man who would go on to become his master. From that day on, Jiren devoted himself to the path of righteous power determined to forge himself into a steel wall no marauder could break. In time he made friends, a new community, and he followed his master's way. Then, the same villain returned. Jiren and his new brothers in arms stood against him. The boy was sure this time he would win, but the foe was too strong. And Jiren watched as his friends were slain one by one, even Jiren’s master lost his life in the merciless battle. Jiren tried to regroup and keep fighting, but none of the other remaining students would join him. With no hope of rescue, the people in his land were forced to submit to this cruel conqueror, and Jiren was left all alone. Jiren suffered untold grief when those he trusted walked away, betraying their principals for the easier path. After that, his view of the world changed. He gave up trusting anyone. As he saw it, there was only one great truth, that might makes right and that sheer strength determines all. Only victories ensure allegiance, subdue and others will follow. Having feelings just gets in the way. I have become enamored with his singular resolve, this colossal yearning for strength built on a bedrock of suffering and desolation.
>>549859656>Jiren is the pinnacle of strength. His unwavering conviction is why he truly shines as a Pride Trooper. Jiren is the pride of Universe 11, and it's not just his power, the strength of his spirit shines brighter than anyone else's. There are many who take pride in their power, but there are none who can show they’ve reached the new heights without arrogance. JirenJiren is the pinnacle of strength speaks with his fists, he is the ultimate warrior who leads by example. Jiren has walked the path of solitude, but it is that very loneliness that's allowed him to hone himself into a truly powerful warrior. That strength is cultivated, is exactly what Universe 11 needs. Most who walk the path of true strength fail, but Jiren is the only one I've seen to bring purpose to such a journey. His unwavering spirit in pursuit of unrivaled power is inconceivable."
>>549859656>>549859756I still don't see how his backstory is like Sasuke's honestly.His backstory is basically just 'If Goku lost against Piccolo Daimao / Freeza'.Jiren doesn't even want revenge and had no ties with the dude who killed his family.
anime jiren came really close to that iconic sasuke crash out and going I AM AN AVENGER!!!!!real fucking close
>>549859193and in the sub he sounds like Chiyo papa
>>549861098Based
>>549860952>real fucking closeHow? At no point does he even mention or imply vengeance about anything.
>>549861469When Goku was pressuring him he got so mad he struck at the stands deliberating targeting universe 7 just to spite Goku and he brutalized 17 and Vegeta for mocking him for getting caught up in his feels for his dead masterThose moments were like when Sasuke fresh off jobbing picked a fight with Naruto tried to use his Chidori on him even through he was taught to only use that on people he wanted to kill, damaging the water tower getting happy to see Naruto tended it and he pierced it only to see it from the back that Naruto's Rasengan blew out the backside of the tower while while Sasuke only managed to make the backside leak a little and then after Kakashi tied him up to scold him he cruely and insanely threatened to go kill everybody Kakashi cares about so he knows how it feelsJiren very well was heading down that path and probably would have if he weren't in this enviorement where he could work through it with someone who can beat him rather than in his home universe where even if he eventually found someone who could beat him he would either overcome them there with his rage further throwing him into the Sasuke mentality or he'd rage at his powerlessness and dive even more into Sasuke's mentality and start doing villainous stuff thinking the way he's been doing is making him weaker or that he needs to be more extreme.Jiren even went off about how he doesn't see his fellow pride troopers as friends, he doesn't care if they live or die or even protecting anyone.in the manga Jiren had plenty of oppertunities to step in and save the other pride troopers yet he did nothing, he lost half all of his team to Caulifla and Kale in the anime and Kefla and Kale in the manga and did nothing to help themWhen Toppo and Dyspo flat out ask him for help in the manga he ignores them, he doesn't outirhgt insult and belittle them while smiling like Toei did it tho, further acting more like Sasuke, it's undeniable what Dark Jiren was heading towards
>>549862372>reddit spacingDidn't read and opinion discarded.
>>549861363and Dartanian Nickelback sounding like the Great Mighty Poo (and Plankton) isn't?
If Mega Man had a chance to return... there might be odds for DBS2 after all.
>>549862438refute me or perish from my sight little boy
>>549856808Now that sounds like a Toriyama joke.>I originally designed him to be my replacement body but I just couldn't get the face right!
>>549862776valid
>>549862687XV3*
>>549862372That's stupid, by that logic every character that every got mad was like Sasuke. Their reasons to be mad are vastly different and so are their actions as they are mad.
>>549865069Ma-masaka
>>549865069>Buucule
HerbuuBuutanSabuu
>>549858847I'm not watching 30 minutes of some retard yapping.
>>549865981It's about 2 minutes.I also timestamp'd it.But don't.You don't have to.You could just read it: >>549859656 >>549859756Or alternatively ignored it.I don't really care desu.Why even bother replying to me for this.Anyway have a good day Anon.
>>549866104Huh, timestamp didn't work for me when clicking and it put me at the start. I just believe in bullying people posting youtubers in general.
Gekishin delaying balance changes to not "disrupt" a tournament where 90% of games are boring mirror matches is such a mistakeThis is babby's first moba, why even pretend it will ever be competitive, hold your tournaments if you want but don't fucking interrupt the normal flow of the game for themTank and Tech roles are completely in the shitter thanks to SS4geta and Ultimate Gohan, half the roster in these roles are basically throw picks, and their balance changes are getting delayed because of esports larp
You know, that show that ripped off the saiyans had their people become really vunerable to getting affectiong and human/pussy dick. Do you think the saiyans themselves would be like that too if they decided to give peace a chance, like if Nappa and Radtiz were revived and too weak to continue their saiyan upbringing and ideals and just settled down you think they'd find a nice human woman and end up developing the into better stronger saiyans because of it? It's kinda a catch 20/20 if you thin kabout itTarbel's been that type of saiyan for his whole life yet as far as we know he's not even as strong as Ginyu back on Namak, Aba and Cado who are still alive by the way were namak freiza's level and he was terrified of them.That Onio fella from Neko Majin is canon yet it will be years before he's on earth and he unlocked super saiyan just doing his usual thing and he's loyal to one womanFinally, there's Broly but he's a natural freak of nature like Gohan so I don't knwo if it's far to judge.In recent times since super really they act like Pan and Bulla are gonna be as filled with potentital like Goten and Trunks who are strong but only on the base level, there's never gonna be a time where they need to lock in and be the heroes not with Goku,Vegetaa, potentitally Broly, Gohan and Piccolo around.I'm thinking too much, Toriyama would raff or look disgusted at me wasting my time like this instead of somking, drinking and flipping through a nudie mag while recovering from wisdom tooth extraction and strunk out on Ibueopoefin I took 8 of them
>>549854776>Then why did he make the buu saga to EoZ timeskip so giganticBecause Uub needed to grow
>>549862687>Mega Man had a chance to returnI don't know why people act like this is a big dead, this is like the fourth time Capcom has "revived" classic Mega Man, and with how long every games takes to come out now I wouldn't say something that got a game in 2018 was dead in the first place. Now bringing back X or Legends would actually be something.
>>549841128>>549816046Really? I think the SS one is the trace. SS4 Goku is from Legends btw
I made the mistake of searching how the new Toyo art has been received on Twitter. I didn't know things had become Serious Business. People are running Sparking Zero levels of defense on him.
>>549870698those aren't people
>>549808263There'a 1 (one) guy here still playing.
>>549808143No. One Piece gets a lot of glittery and rubbery effects, Daima got actual good animation. I don't want a new DB series/movie to look like One Piece, this shit is meme tier.
>>549870972They were raking AnimeAjay over the coals for making a really indirect jab at Toyo. One guy even went to his Discord to try and dig up dirt of him calling it shit outright. I still don't understand how Toyo gained such a devoted cult following.
>>549872239>I still don't understand how Toyo gained such a devoted cult following.They are just NPCs still following their programming from back when shitting on the DBS anime was the big trend amongst social media NPCs.
>>549872239>the successor of Dragon BallHe's a Shueisha employee, he has 0 authority on anything. He does whatever he's told to do.
>>549870698So they are saying it has one or two flaws and other than it's not only a worthy successor but extremely good too?Weird thing to say about Toyble but okay
>>549811815the top panel here is the best in my opinion. the pupil makes him look crazier and provides additional opportunities for him to emote (i.e. shrinking or enlarging). great concept work though. the bottom panel is also really good.
>>549808263i was going to reinstall it the other day but then i remembered my team is just Kefla, 21, Vegetto and that i've played it to death. so i reinstalled Granblue Rising instead. i really hope we get another season of DLC and another playable chick that isn't ANOTHER Android 21 variant or nigga with a boyfriend Stand performing half her attacks.
>>549808263I play it from time to time.
>>549877571DB is a series for men, it's not going to be a place for you to realize your fantasy of being a woman.
>>549878262i just like women, man. particularly, tough women who can fight like Saiyans. i'm fuckin' dying for them to add Captain Marvel to Marvel Rivals because she is effectively a Saiyan and will (with any luck) be a Saiyan-function in that third person shooter/brawler environment. it was also foolish of you to ignore that my team includes a male self-insert (Vegetto). men like watching women brawl. fuckin' WWF/WWE has had women as part of their fight cards pretty much since forever.
>>549878770YOU'RE BROWN.
>>549878262>DB is a series for menAnd yet, you're here.
>>549866715I void any match where ultimate gohan/SSJ4 Vegeta is picked. I absolutely refuse to play against this stupid bullshit. And boy is this matchmaking getting longer and longer. Takes 5 minutes on average to find a game in the any queue now.
>>549852664>>549852851Honestly it's not THAT bad>Pros>Bulma FINALLY gets to shit on the retarded OC that kept shitting on her for an entire chapter>Cons>Gero dies too fast>Retarded OC is still the one to oneshot Gero
DB is a series for men
>>549886258Do you mean homosexual men?
>>549872239>blue checkmark
>>549866901>potential like Goten and Trunks>fusion fodder jobbers>potential
>>549780991CHADCHAD CHAD GODCHAD.
These are all the Universe 6 Saiyans (except for Renso) shown on screenSay something nice about them
>>549895978it's probably just a perspective thing but man kale is tall here
>>549895978Looks like characters from dr. Slump lol.
>>549886128>Bulma FINALLY gets to shit on the retarded OC that kept shitting on her for an entire chapterThat was the most surprising part.>Gero dies too fastExpected from the guy who doesn't care about fights...
>>549895978filler ass designs
>>549785890Moro clears any design SHARTsuru ever drew in his life.
>>549901510Cell is cool, but what does he have to do with the discussion?
>>549903536Telling everyone how mindbroken you are over the best DBS villain isn't the gotcha moment you think it is
>>549898631why the fuck would a guy who doesn't care about the fight decide to write a fucking decades-long tournament arc
>>549906150>best villain is a beggar for his lifelol pathetic
>>549775058how do you guys feel about RB2? i've been replaying it on emulator and galaxy mode might be my favorite single player mode in a DBZ game. I'm shocked this game got so much hate at the time it feels really good to play
>>549911304It's a good DBZ game. Loved it. Shame there was no GT. I wanted to see SS4 on the PS3/360 big screen.
>>549906150>Barry Kahn out of nowhere
>>549858847>>DB Legends now has supportsEveryone knows that this is just a way for them to be lazy and get out of having to make SPs every single banner. The current one doesn't even have an SP.
>>549910528Just like the best Z villain.
>>549914581Still hilarious to me he got infected by Reddit after failing to cuck Gohan
>>549869990>>549816046SS seems to be a trace from Toyo, SSB from Dokkan and SS4 from Legends lmao what a pichttps://x.com/AeonPeneko/status/1999541749295771741/photo/1
>>549911304The interface is lazy and I don't vibe with RB2's graphics and soundtrack. Character select screen is too cluttered without any theming.I like the combat moves however so there's that, good animations for the supers.
>>549813992Beyond based that GT is not a part of such crappy drawings that are literally traced.
>>549911304RB games had the problem of having BT3 as the direct comparison. Galaxy mode itself would be more welcomed if they put a story mode in the game, so it would be "on top of" and not "instead". Though I can see why they didn't considering RB had a very detailed story (except for Buu saga that was butchered), so they'd be essentially copy-pasting 90% of it, or they'd have to find a way to do everything the same but different which could be annoying.
>>549813992Between this and the renders from that Tokyo store, why is it that they can't get any spectacular artist to handle these?
44 days left until the franchise is either saved or doomed until 2028 at the earliest. List the announcements that would make /dbs/ implode and the announcements that would land like a wet fart and ensure that general stays dead.
>>549922418>Implode GOODDBS Season 2Janemba movieOGDB/Z Remake but it LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE PIC RELATEDDBS movie but it's about Cooler or JanembaXenoverse 3>Implode BADLive actionRemake but it's very clearly soulless and ugly and from the trailer alone you can already see them censoring shitDaima season 2 And they're babies again>wet fartSD series
>>549922418i just want the DBS remake and a big reveal as to where the FUCK Sparking Zero is headed. i don't care about mobile games because they won't put SDBH characters in them.
>>549922171>spectacularOr just average for DB lmao, that alone would work, but no, they got an amazingly bad guy for the store and traced art for that one lmao
>>549923039>Or just average for DB lmao, that alone would work,I bet if One Piece got a store they'd do all sorts of cool shit for it.
>>549923032I just want something NEW. Something that'll net us some new figurines, characters and attacks and forms to play with in video games. I (almost) don't care what it is. A season 2 of Super or Daima, a Daima or Super movie, I wouldn't even care if we got a completely new series. Just give us new content.
>>549923878i'm actually so cool on anything new after the last 3-4 new things. no thank you. lol
>>549924210Yet you want a remake of some of the worst arcs of the modern shit.Like, it doesn't get worse than>Resurrection F>Universe 6>Goku Black>Tournament of PowerThese are the bottom of the barrel for modern DB.
>>549924783that's why i want them remade. so they can achieve their potential instead of being squandered on a questionable budget and animator work schedule. and i absolutely believe it gets worse than Super. everything that's come after Super Broly has been worst than the last thing. i hate RoF for the precedents it set but i've got RoF over Daima, the last two arcs of the SHARTnga, and Super Hero because i love SSB and it's (mostly) actually a 2D anime movie and not CG-mid.
>>549925262They don't have fucking potential dumbass.Resurrection F is bad conceptually and has been done three times now.Universe 6 was done twice, bad both times.Goku Black was done twice, bad both times.Tournament of Power was done twice, bad both times.At the very base they are bad. There is no reality where a remake would make them better, and the reality is probably that you're in your 20s and feel some kind of deranged nostalgia for this shit.
>>549925428i wish i was in my 20's and not my very early 30's. i don't have ANY nostalgia for Super, i just think it could be better if it were remade with the same heart & philosophy as the original Z anime. there's a bunch of interesting-to-good material in the Z anime that wasn't in the manga, it was added by the anime team and enriched the universe. i want that for DBS. then maybe after we've established a new, heartfelt status quo we can try some new stories again.
>>549895978How come everyone is wearing jackets but Caulifla and Kale?
I think a lot of people are overestimating how good a potential DBS remake is going to look. I also think people are expecting the fights to look as good as DBS Broly did when that won't happen until much later in the series. BoG, RoF, and the U6 tournament have a lot of fights that aren't going to give way to "sakuga". Like they'll technically be decent, no janky or bad animation but you won't be seeing any cool tricky counters or weighty blows or badass new techniques, nor will you see fights like in wano-onwards One Piece or DBS Broly.It's kinda like how Daima was. There were fights every episode and none of them were bad, but you didn't get a jaw dropping fight until Goku fought the third Tamagami and then not another one until Gomah came with the third eye.
>>549925428>thinking anything is worse than RoFHopeless case.
>>549926426I expect them to make the Goku vs Beerus fight on King Kai's world look good at least since it being bad back then was so controversial.
>>549926564I'd believe that too if they actually cared. Any small scale fight like that is going to be as bare-minimum as they could possibly make it without it looking bad. And people will eat it up because the funny faces are gone.BoG won't get that "sakuga" fight until Goku goes God against Beerus, and even then, I'm expecting it to be as good as Goku and Glorio's spar and not anything more.
>>549925658it would require a total rewrite, is the problem. which would completely decanonise the original Super and create yet another GT-style rift in the fanbase. Super doesn't have a small handful of issues that could be corrected and not really change the story, it's rotten to the core. About the only meaningfully positive ideas it has is Beerus and the multiverse (but not in execution). Super's problems originate in Z, ultimately. the fact Frieza powercrept the setting so bad makes in impossible to really follow up the series. within one arc you go from a weird demon guy who could blow up a city if he really tried (Piccolo), to "the strongest guy in the universe, who can nuke a planet by sneezing in its general direction" (frieza). making Frieza so ridiculously strong means there's very little room for the series to go after that. which is why the Androids kinda soft retcon Frieza's power level, and the next enemy after Cell is a guy who is functionally an extradimensional threat. there's nowhere to go after Buu. Beerus kinda works by being an immortal god of destruction, but the rest of Super has to make us believe shitters like Auta Magetta and Cabba are stronger than a character who could tear holes in the fabric of reality.
>>549926826>it would require a total rewrite, is the problemno, brother. that is the solution.>and create yet another GT-style rift in the fanbasethey literally just did this with Daima so i don't care.
>>549926826>Super has to make us believe shitters like Auta Magetta and Cabba are stronger than a character who could tear holes in the fabric of reality.I mean, it's not like Gotenks wasn't also one of those people, who is a seven year old. A fusion granted, but still
>>549928102Daima kinda still fits in the Super timeline, but it does retroactively make stuff in early Super come off as especially silly.
>>549928141the difference is Gotenks has a reason to be that strong; he's a fusion of the kids of Goku and Vegeta. Cabba is a nobody who didn't even learn SSJ until Vegeta taught it to him.
>>549926426>lookWe want them to improve the story.
>>549928359Come on anon Gotenks is extremely fucking dumb. The dude not only just gets the new super saiyan form extremely easily but also power gaps the entire rest of the cast with very little effort. I like him, but I dislike how people shit on super's powerscaling but ignore shit like gotenks and ultimate gohan that were way more toxic for powerscaling than half the shit super did.
>>549928568He is dumb, but he makes sense in the setting. Gohan and Future Trunks already established that the kids of saiyans are stronger than their parents. so Goten and Prime Trunks, being born after Cell, would be stronger still. Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan are also only about as strong as SSJ3 Goku is.
>>549928820>Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan are also only about as strong as SSJ3 Goku is. No? Gotenks is explicitly stronger than goku's 3 and Gohan is a tier above that
>>549928568You need to remember that he's a gag character. I know that's not what you're discussing, but there's a reason any power level discussion is futile.
>>549928820after Frieza* not Cell
I mean GT has us try to believe the same thing, too. Ledgic was strong enough to make Goku pull out Super Saiyan and yet from all appearances he's a Ferengi that barely has the presence of half the Ginyu Force. Rildo is supposed to be stronger than Buu with a body that IS the planet and he fights like a chump. All of the Shadow Dragons save the last three are either gimmick fights, shitters that make it feel like Goku isn't trying, or both. Super 17 is a meme and the plot leading up to him is just the Janemba movie done worse.
>>549928936Anon i'm well aware, I don't give a shit about powerscaling consistency in this series. I'm just saying I dislike people dogpiling super for "ruining the powerscaling" when this shit's been broken since forever
>>549928935>stronger than Gokuwhen was this stated? >Gohan stronger than Gokuagain, when? Gohan couldn't put down Buutenks, Goku finished off Kid Buu. the only comparison we have is Vegito vs Buuhan, and it's hard to judge how strong Vegito is because he clearly wasn't going all-out in his fight (didn't even go SSJ2).
>>549929007and one of the major complaints of GT is how it fucks the power scaling. at least you can argue that Goku being turned into a kid weakened him.
Saiyans that aren't genocidal assholes being leagues stronger than Saiyans that are is a consistent through line of the series. Even without going blonde Goku got leaps and bounds stronger than any Saiyan before him by an order of magnitude. Cabba being at minimum Gotenks level isn't that much of a stretch.
>>549929220>Goku finished off Kid BuuWith the super spirit bomb, yes. Goku was struggling very hard against kid buu in a straight fight. I'm not sure why kid buu would be comparable to super buu though
>>549929346That's the biggest problem, you CAN'T argue that. There are those that will swear up and down that base GT Goku is above Vegito because of how badly the series portrays comparable strengths. GT has such a hard time demonstrating consistent power scaling for Goku that sometimes his base form comes across as more durable than Super Saiyan 4!
>>549929472Vegeta fucking said that Cabba was equal to him without transforming therefore Cabba is stronger than Gotenks if he weren't Gotenks would be arrogant enough to not listen to Vegeta at all unlike herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-EoEbdM3AThis arc takes place AFTER the universe 6 arc but before the blake arc and Gotenks acts as if Vegeta could easily whoolipe him while being rude as hell to 21
>>549929665Goku could fight Kid Buu on more even terms than Gohan could against Buutenks. Gohan got utterly humiliated in that fight, Goku was able to at least keep up and only got put on the ropes because SSJ3 takes so much out of him. Kid Buu is explicitly stronger than Buuhan
>>549929960which is why nobody counts GT as canon.
>>549929998>Kid Buu is explicitly stronger than BuuhanGod are we really going with that, it makes zero sense for kid buu to be as strong as buuhan and it's not even what they say, they say he's the most dangerous buu. Which he is because of his fighting style and his penchant to instantly nuke the planet rather than fight. If this were remotely true why would goku bother fusing with gohan instead of going to beat buutenks' ass himself
>>549929972>the blake arcAh, Goku Blake, my favourite villain
>>549930320>it makes zero senseyes, but it's what Toriyama wrote so it's canon. same as Goku being genuinely brain damaged. such is the series we have come to love.
>>549932739I mean no that just doesn't line up with what we're shown at all and only exists if you take that one line from old kai about kid buu being the most dangerous buu at face value. There's nothing else that remotely states that he's stronger than buuhan and no one acts like he is
>>549789435Who can beat Super 17 (Super)?
>>549929007>is just the Janemba movie done worse.Really? Villains coming back to life was a meme in Janemba movie. Super 17 arc at least took it half-seriously.>>549930142I count GT as canon
>>549929220>when was this stated?It's something stated indirectly. Goku (initially) says he couldn't beat Buu even with SS3, but he fully expected Gotenks to be enough to deal with Fat Buu, while not even expecting them to be capable of going SS3. So it seems even SS1 Gotenks is stronger than Goku, so SS3 Gotenks is beyond even that... Plus Goku later claims Super Buu was stronger than him still.>>549932739>yes, but it's what Toriyama wrote so it's canon.There's only one line that indicates Kid Buu was getting stronger, and that's when he briefly went buff, but otherwise Kid Buu is treated as weaker than Super Buu. The anime does claim Kid Buu is the most powerful one multiple times for some reason though.
Have too many fanfiction ideas on the mind>weird age regression/gender bend Gohan x Trunks fanfic set before and during the Buu arc>a 356 short chapters (<1500 words) slice of life fanfic about Chichi accidentally wishing him human at the end of the Cell Games>a time loop fanfic that is never getting off the ground because I spend too much time elaborating on how every character moves while they talk because it's the 'serious' oneHaving fun planning the first two though.
>>549937071wishing who human? Goku? Gohan? Either wouldn't work for the same reason shenron couldn't turn the androids human
>>549937406Meant Gohan, but it doesn't matter if it doesn't work because it's a dumb fanfiction and I use it as an excuse to have Gohan go to middle school with Videl, Sharpener, and Erasa and do fluffy shenanigans though the planned ending I have written down is just some RRA grunts with guns kidnapping Videl and a human Gohan having to save her on his own, could get somewhat dramatic I guess.
>this fag gave goten more personality than toriyama did in 30+ years
>>549935316>Super 17 arc at least took it half-seriously.LOLLMAONappa.
>>549937682Human Gohan would still obliterate the world with a sneeze should he wish to. I guess a more believeable idea would be making him unable to use ki or something.
>>549937071Try the first one.
>>549945563>Human Gohan would still obliterate the world with a sneeze should he wish to.My specific inciting incident was basically this.>Chichi bullies Bulma into taking her to see Gohan fight after she destroys her TV>Bulma takes her to the lookout>when Gohan gets healed and after the first wish, Chichi starts fawning over Gohan and lets slip "I wish you were just a regular human boy", which leaves him stuck like that for a year as Gohan doesn't want to abuse the Namekian Dragon Balls for something as mundane as this.It basically does mean he can't use ki, and other things I invented. His hair is slightly less crazy because he's human, he's weaker than Videl and Sharpener because he's a 'regular human boy', but he's not crippled or anything. Only big change from canon to facilitate this is #17 and #18 not having their bombs removed, but I just inserted a line from Bulma saying she'll help #18.
>>549947761I don't think bulma knows how to do surgery, given 18 is not mechanical
>>549947890She'll figure it out.
i miss the style of games like the DBZ GBA games where you actually power up and grind for it and get stronger. so many of the modern DBZ games are just preset forms, its so boring and static. surprised no DBZ MMO exists for that reason alone but i guess its not a popular style of gaming anymore
>>549949201MMOs are still very popular, it's just that the buy in is so high that most would rather do a gacha, which has a similar audience but is way cheaper
Why did nobody say anything about this?
>>549949370i mean yeah, i play ffxiv / wow since their inception and plenty of others. i just wish a DBZ one existed 'cause it's like the perfect power fantasy power grind but it just doesn't exist lol
>>549950503there are alternatives, like dragonball mods for minecraft that have servers that essentially make it into an MMO
>>549910528just like frieza
>>549949201>tfw no Legacy of Goku GT
>>549952097You'll get your garbage beat 'em up and you'll LIKE it.
>>549952452I did like it. The music as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6IgMWiEgzU&t=5s
>>549950604if i wanted to play bootleg dbz like that i'd go play EDF instead desu
>>549950604How is that dragon ball mod for minecraft, anyways?
>>549954204Dragon block C? Extremely barebones but a lot of servers work around it using other mods like custom NPCs or adding their own custom stuff to the mod. It's still 1.7.10 ass combat but it's fine if you're desperate
>>549952918Are you okay? Blink twice if a Drug Cartel is holding you hostage.
>>549911304it was the last good dragon ball fighting game until sparking zero came out
>>549911304>how do you guys feel about RB2?I liked it a lot. The galaxy mode had some bullshit fights tho.
>>549911304Bad graphics, bad story mode, bad interfaceSOLID gameplay (like, more or less BT4)
What are your thoughts on a wrath form awakening for saiyans, their hair turns into a super saiyan like style but remains the base color their eyes glow yellow and the method of this form is using great ape power without turning into one.If anything it's proto super saiyan 4 without the size and monkey features, I was looking at it again and Goku in that form is about as big as Wrath form Broly through that could be either a model problem with xenoverse 2 or the scale of Gomah throwing me off, did we ever see adult goku next to anyone else besides Gomah?
>>549963702Why not but the saiyans hardly need ANOTHER awakening
>>549963973Yeah! How about they throw us humans a bone and give us a transformation!
>>549964324They did give you an in lore transformation Ultra Instinct, roshi demonstrated humans are capable of it through his is the technique version rather than the transformationsadly in xenoverse 2 the transformation is ass it's easily defeated by spamming basic ki blasts at whoever has it on forcing them to waste their stamina due to the auto dodge and it offers no bonus to attacks or bosters defense or even gives ki or stamina regin, I don't know why they did it wthis way when it'sc clear ultra instinct both signs and mastered makes you stronger, signs made Goku go from not even being worth Jiren's notice to Jiren actually having to fight him
It's crazy to me how they could make literally anything they want as a form for the Majin race and yet all they got was THE shittiest form in the game and nothing since
>>549970686Even more so after Daima where Duu just went 'Look at me. I'm the Super Saiyan 3 now'.
>>549911304>how do you guys feel about RB2?I wish the combat didn't feel like a slower BT3 and that the visuals weren't so bland in terms of colors used.I like it otherwise. More than UT, BoZ or Xenoverse anyway.
Why did FLOPgon FLOP FLOPer FLOPer TRACEo and FLOPma fail to reach this level of popularity?
Still mad you got banned from /a/ huh?
>Too afraid to reply directlySafe to say that hurt him deeply.
But you didn't reply directly either
only fags don't reply directly
>>549952452Wasn't garbage at all. Had more fun with it than with Xenoverse for the past decade.
>>549980045I hate burikko so god damnes much
>>549980045>Fluid smooth animation without retarded camera angles or flashing colorsBetter than anything in Daima desu.
>>549978970>>549980045>>549983361Twitterfag opinions
I hate Daima but I will say nobody is making Twitter call out posts about the animation or sound effects like they do to current One Piece. At the absolute bare minimum it is well animated.
I had sex with The Boss, I think I'm dying
>>549989332Based
>>549989332that little vixen is a known nug-drainer, you should've known better
>>549989021The guy shitposting now is a known character in the thread. He used to try to pretend to be a onepiecefag, but then he outed himself for not having the most basic knowledge of it. There was some fighting girl series he pretended to follow in-between (though I forgot the title). Now he's trying CSM. He's just stirring up shit for the heck of it.
>>549991064didn't know Toriyama was a Bills fan
>>549991352does that mean Josh Allen is a GoD..? Or God of...Choking away playoff games?
>>549970861Duu and Kuu are the best thing to have happened to the franchise in ages.
>>549994743this. they were the best part of Daima. i think you're only allowed to hate the Super Saiyan 3 Duu scene if you personally have never tried to transform into a Super Saiyan because you thought Goku was the coolest guy of all time. Duu is an immaculate vibe reader. he spent like 15 minutes around Goku and decided "this mortal is my fuarking hero." me too, Duu. me too.
>>549994743>>549995795When you realize they could have solved the whole series by themselves and Goku & co weren't even needed. Arinsu would just send Duu on the remainder 2 Tamagamis to beat them and Kuu would solve the problems. She'd probably wish herself to be the Demon Realm Queen and then what? I dunno, who cares lol
>>549995795What the hell is going on there
>>549996854Duu was getting beat up, so Kuu threw him a giant cookie for him to eat and re-energize himself with. as he's finishing the cookie and feeling his power return, he sees Goku powering up and is amazed by his hair and aura. so he mimics Goku, like everyone who has ever tried to become a Super Saiyan after watching Namek.
>>549996854https://youtu.be/Q_GQq5vM74M?si=HIkDtZjXUavF6NG4>>549996819well yeah dude the rest of Daima is ass. Duu and Kuu are just charming silver linings in an otherwise dull series.
Think the manga's returning next year?
>>550001151I doubt it
>>550001151No indication of it whatsoever.
It's funny when you think about it, the ROSAT is just Secluded Training with a 'Spirit Realm training' bend to it.
I'm surprised Goku sweeped the popularity poll this completely, his stock seem to be up pretty heavily from Pre-Super.
>>550005087You bought into memes too hard.
>>550005087I don't get this meme that the popularity poll is just entirely based on people's opinions from super and nothing else especially when the anime was like a decade ago now. He's the most recognizeable anime character in existence of course he's going to be number one on that alone
>>550005435>when the anime was like a decade ago nowSuper was 10 years agoJesus fucking christ I did not need this reality check I just turned 37 today
>>550005435>I don't get this meme that the popularity poll is just entirely based on people's opinions from super and nothing else especially when the anime was like a decade ago now.I'm not saying that, I'm just saying the fandom used to be a lot more hostile to Goku before BOG.
>>550005653oh I thought you were that one anon that ascribed every single placement in that popularity poll to super and super alone. I wasn't really in this fandom pre super but I remember people being super hostile to superku back in the day
>>550005653Again, you just bought into TFS memes too hard. Goku was always Number One.
>>550005087I assume popularity polls just ask "which characters do you know?", and even people who don't care about Dragon Ball know who Goku is.
Guys, the "challengers" track from Budokai 1 also features in Budokai Tenkaichi 1. In which instance does this track play?
EoZbros.. it was supposed to be our turn...
>>550008327Here:https://youtu.be/VaSUtFo-KqU?si=yWeIwiyK8lMloL0G&t=19781I also think it randomly plays on VS Mode.
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>>549989021You would have to watch Daima to make these in the first place, and nobody did
Comm'd drawanon for a pic of one of my CACs, Andui
>>550013112Based
>>550013112my /dbg/ friends are POWERFUL
>>550008959Thank you so much.
kurokimono yo owai da.
>>549989332Before you die, tell me what she tastes like!
>tune in for the official gekishin tournament>every team is kid gohan/ssgoku/ss4vegeta, only the second dps slot has some variationWhy did they think this was a good idea, this is a casual game with no draft and no bans, no possible counterpicking or even choosing helpers based on your opponent, this is pretty dreadful to watch
>>550022393Even funnier they tried that after Sparking Zero's disastrous tournament. How many times it'll take until they learn? Surprised they were using kid Gohan over Hit though...
>>550024424Kid Gohan is basically a third DPS.
>>550024424Hit works a lot less against cordinated people who know what the fuck they are doing, kinda similar to FriezaMeanwhile kid gohan is basically unbeatable in lane and enables some truly stupid boss one shots
>>550024505>>550024702I wonder if ultimate Gohan would be used over him, if he were allowed in those tournaments... Ultimate Gohan with those constant interruptions/stun, low CD and very disruptive moveset, does make him look like the best Technical...>Hit works a lot less against cordinated people who know what the fuck they are doing, kinda similar to FriezaI guess it's because he's not that good at farming early on? The more I play the game, the more I learn how important it is to outfarm, and be capable of fighting off your opponents/escape from them...
>>550025409No, it's just that the best players are not gonna let you take towers for free or let you escape just because you pressed the invisibility button, the things that make Hit good in soloq
>>550025409>I wonder if ultimate Gohan would be used over him, if he were allowed in those tournaments...Of course he would. He's basically a better third DPS.
>>549801510They just reversed the eye and fur color but could also be a reference to super sonic
>>550024424to be fair sparking zero's tournament highlighted a pretty big issue that (as far as i remember) wasn't really talked about outside of the ultrasweat communities, that's not a bad thing in my opinion
>>550026106Thing is, invisibility is a dash of its own, and it goes pretty far. He can be caught but he's better than the other technicals at escaping... Though I'd assume things like the current Build Up meta just makes him worse.>>550026278The more I fight him, the more I hate him... Even SS3 Goku didn't feel as bad as this.
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague do or die time for our boys! the final group stage match against hgg2d is next!
>>550033009So from what I understand: Winning secures our entry into the survival round, tie is death, losing locks /hgg2d/'s spot and renders the final game in the group pointless, effectively eliminating /kfg/ as well as us.FIVE MINUTES.Good luck.
>>550033009why did he trace Toyo's "first generation" Father-Son Kamehameha?
It's already ogre
>>549989332Who's The Boss?
I tried
Can they possibly make it out or is it really over for Gogeta and friends?
>>550038859nah its over. Gogeta did his best to roar the team back today. we just couldn't find the final goal. this was failure on my end. for now though. we did enough to avoid qualifiers this time but this should have been much better from us.
>>550038160you are cute btw. thanks for being /ourguy/. we love you!
>>550039216thanks anon
>>550034097It's an homage.
>>550040024You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?
>>550037435Depends on if you played Xenoverse or MGS3
>>549872239>successor of dragon ballHe isn't. Toriyama didn't choose Toyotarou to be his successor. Before Resurrection 'F' there were a few official artists who would draw promotional material such as Dragon Ball SD, Dragon Ball Heroes chapters and other video games related stuff. Toyotarou was one of them. So when it was time to draw a promotional manga for the movie, Toyotarou was picked for the job by Shueisha and he would continue his manga to promote the new Super anime.>Question: How were you chosen as Akira Toriyama's successor?>Toyotaro: I went to Shueisha and told them I wanted to draw Dragon Ball Super. They gave me the opportunity to work on the series related to the video game, and after about three months, they asked me to draw two pages of Dragon Ball Super. That’s how it all started, and I was really happy.https://www.animeclick.it/news/64770-napoli-comicon-2017-reportage-dellincontro-con-toyotaroMan was literally just in the right place at the right time. He's not really a great artist but he's not bad either, he's just mediocre.
>>550046364He's not a bad artist. He's a bad mangaka. He can draw a splash page or promotional pic, but he's bad at drawing an actual comic.
>>550045785I play xv2
>>550047098>anyone who isnt as good as peak toriyama = badcome the fuck on
>>550047601I would struggle to name anyone worse (who's a pro).
>>550047901Oda
>>550048034Current Oda has a lot of problems (especially overcrowding), but come on, he's not Toyo level bad. And 2000s Oda was actually very good.
>>550048034Don't let your hatred for One Piece cloud your judgement.
Anyone knows where's the fucking leak ToonRaider is referring to?>"has what seems to be scenes despicting events from Super"This is obviously the remake or a recap in the movie trailer or a game trailer, but i just want to see the thing myself just to affirm to it.
>>549978970>>549980045>Le bomb ladyJJK is better
>>549983361>without retarded camera>warped by Teruaki Murakami of all things
Mugen 17
>>549952097They were actually making it but it got canned It was supposed to be Super 17 and Shadow Dragons blended together with a more justified ending to GT.
>>550053085If Toriyama wasn't a faggot, 17 would have looked like this in the ToP arc.
Togashi mogs, and he's worse than most of the mentioned people here.
https://youtu.be/fFLTEDpUNEU?t=213tienbros...yamchabros...
>>550054105>TogashiToyo and every DBZ nostalgiafag's hero....
>>550047601There's not being as good as Toriyama and then there's not having any of the fundamentals.Toyotaro blatantly did not study art in any real capacity. His formative artistic years were spent tracing Dragon Ball, not as a meme, but literally that is how he drew DBAF. Panels, page compositions, poses, all of it traced from the original DB manga, because he's not a real manga artist.It'd be like if Fenyo decided to start doing manga (though at least Fenyo could back it up with way better art), his skills aren't in there. Toyotaro does some good promo pieces (when not in his honestly fuckugly art style), but his manga is dreadful. It is actively boring to read at all times, I don't know what anyone sees in his work.
>>550054105you can be a hikkikomori and not live in total squalor.
The father of SSJ5, Mazoku Yusuke, and Ultra Instinct.....
>>550047601Imagine taking Toyo haters seriously when there's people who unironicly defends and posts Jijii because they catalogued and traced every 90syama panel.I'd take Jiren the Jerk over that weird filler villain AFku fought before the Naz arc.
>>550054513>It is actively boring to read at all timesAre you mixing up Super with Multiverse?
>>550057223You are literally the first person in the thread to even mentioned him.
>>550057223all three of these look like shit. they can't touch my GOAT Shintani.
>>550057491Please tell everyone how fun Toyotaro's fights are, and how they totally aren't a series of recycled action panels, recycled poses, and walls of text. Even when he doesn't drown his art in two of those factors, you're still met with speedlines and incoherent paneling and composition where everything feels completely weightless. Toyotaro is not a good mangaka. Pretty much all DB doujinshi artists aren't either (i.e., Youngjiji, DBM, etc.), but most of them aren't employed to make manga.
>>550058058Saying all of that though, there are some DB Doujinshi with appealing art and good paneling.They're just mostly porn and the artists stick to where their skills are actually desired.
DBColorZ is such a goddamn good add-on. being able to put the fluffy Namek Goku hair on everyone is one of the coolest features ever.
>>550057517Kek, I just checked, last time he's even mentioned at all on the board is November 25. And it's not exactly a flattering comment. At least the first page of the results in the archive is mostly people criticizing him. Toyofag fighting windmills again.
>>550058301also put fluffy Rose hair on Karoly Black, gave Second Coming Broly the Restrained SSJ hair color, and recolored SSJ4 Goku Black. i can't believe Sparking didn't launch with a battle damaged alt costume for every character.
>>550058515
>>550057517and what does this consistutes?>>550058417I can easily pull up a /v/ thread that's just glazing Jijii. There's actually people who defends Jijii just because he emulates their favorite thing.
Why did Cooler kick Vegeta in the dick?
>>550059063>I can easily pull up a /v/ threadCool, you can stay there while you're at it.
>>550058058That isn't that bad. And the reason was this fight was shit wasn't even because of the choreography, it was because neither character really had much of a reason to be fighting each other.
>>550058058>most of them aren't employed to make manga.Jijii actually did a manga pitch at Shueisha at one point http://imgur.com/a/LXbTf
>>550045785>or
>>550059064unlike frieza, he actually knows how to kill monkeys off for goodunfortunately for him, pure saiyans have BALLS OF STEEL
>>550059063>and what does this consistutes?Try speaking English.What I'm saying is that you're fighting phantoms, because people are calling Toyotaro bad, on his own. >>550059230It is bad. There's no real motion in this at all, Granolah flips into pushing himself away from the ground despite that being an anatomical impossibility, and then he completely rotates his body by the third panel, we get two redundancies where we don't see Gas move towards Granolah- yet in the first panel on the second page, he's so close that Granolah had to dodge out of the way, leading into the eternal copy-pasted jobber face Toyo uses.Only the last three panels are what I'd constitute as good.
>>550059136>The deranged shitter already switching to witty retortshaul your ass back to X while i do pull up some /v/ormie threads.
>>550059579Sister, we really do not give a shit you got BTFO by someone on /v/. Go take the issue to them, we're not your therapist.
>>550059523>Try speaking English.Pic>What I'm saying is that you're fighting phantoms, because people are calling Toyotaro bad, on his own.Because Toyo critics NEVER sucked Jijii dick because it honors their Z nostalgia visually.Not once nope.
>>550059276Temu Yaiba?
>>550060026>YaibaBetter than Daima btwHope their team handles the DB remake too.
>>550058058These threads always remind me how good Toriyama's paneling is. I don't even know how to explain it, it just flows so well...
>>550059858>PicYou're on an English language general on an English language site. Speak properly or don't speak at all. >Because Toyo critics NEVER sucked Jijii dick because it honors their Z nostalgia visually.Your idea is that to criticize Toyotaro is to love YoungJiji because of some rivalry in your head.You're deranged. >>550060274Toyotaro has too many panels all over his pages, and when he doesn't he's covering everything in text boxes or abusing speedline backgrounds. Like, look here, Toriyama avoids every issue Toyotaro encountered. We see the impact and it's impacted because of the sound effect as well as the background shifting.The panel that is focused on just Vegeta's reaction and injury can afford to use speedlines because a background would clutter the image.The third panel shows both the impact and the start of the recovery, which flows into the fourth panel's full revoery and return to the fight.
>>550058240NiceI was putting some TruHan in my fanfic earlier>Gohan blushed as he looked over Trunks' body, the faded scars on his bare torso, his angelic long hair that flowed far more cleanly than Bulma's, with a purple hue that complimented his dreamy blue eyes perfectly. Before he knew it, Trunks had started faintly snoring, all while Gohan stared at his crush.>Shifting closer to Trunks, Gohan curled up into a ball, gripping his bare knees and pressing his form against Trunks' side. If they won or lost the Cell Games, this would probably be the closest he ever got to Trunks.>He was fine with that.
>>550059734>you got BTFOI wasn't even in the thread when it was alive, it's just a fighterz nigger thread i stumbled upon and found some grumpy retard fellating DBAF because it featured SS3 Vegeta beating on a bitch.Here you go btwhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/A41uS2l7hFAyQDWKW7Ghrg/Surprise a bunch of threads! Mostly glazed by a tripfag back then but you can network this shit and find retards just mindlessly glazing this because Super or Toyo bad.
>>550059276>what if Bulma was more blatant coombait
>/v/ even hates DGL's opusThis is why you don't take retard millennial shitter opinions seriously.
>>550063678>>550063871Literally nobody cares about /v/.If you want to argue with /v/, go to /v/ instead of dragging your personal issues and mental illnesses to places where you're fighting nobody.
>>550060716>You're on blahblahblahYou're on a general for a Mongolian basket weaver's photographic codex mega-franchise. If you want to talk about how not!brown you are, you can turn to /bant/ and cry about how every board doesn't have flags on there all day.>Your idea is that to criticize Toyotaro is to love YoungJiji No, i was just saying that the 90syama yearning faggots have all shit taste and unrealistic standards.Even if Toyo wasn't picked to co-write and illustrate Super and it was (let's say for example) Nagayama instead, autists would still find a way to create retarded shitposting for it then evolved into unironic slander.
>>550063678So you came to cry on /vg/ on 2025 because someone used to post something on /v/ in 2016 and then posted it five more times, last time in 2020? This is beyond rent free. Seek help.
>>550064753You got really mad in a telling way about the ESL stuff. >No, i was just saying that the 90syama yearning faggots have all shit taste and unrealistic standardsThat's not here you spaz. What is here is people saying Toyotaro is fundamentally bad. Not "He's not like Toriyama" just that "He is bad". It's also natural to compare him to Toriyama because he literally studied under him for a decade and gained nothing from the eperience. Go be an obnoxious schizo on /v/.
>>550065659>eperience>IESLB
>>550054105I'm always reminded of how Togashi almost lost Takeuchi because he tried convincing her into an open relationship so he could sleep with other women, and he had to beg her for ages to take him back.
>>550063932>Me: 90yama fags are willling to suck off an actual tracer just because it looks good>You:Nuh-uh>Me: Uh-huh, here's an example of normies on /v/ defending it>You: SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP UR A VEE TARD GO BACKWhat an absolutely psychotic summary. Gone from unreasonable slander on a mangaka artist to just damage control over how nostalgiafags just eat up whatever because it's looks like Goku in 1994and if this is going to be your new GTfag//dbs/ boogeyman, be my guest, i already made my point here.
>>550066050No, I said that nobody in this thread is talking about the shit you're talking about.You're inserting arguments that YOU said you got from /v/, and you're going "Yes, this is happening here!" when it isn't. Nobody brought up your specific trigger words, you just got unreasonably upset over people criticizing Toyotaro and saying he isn't a mangaka, and instead of providing a counter-argument, you stamp your feet like a child and cry about the meanie badguys on /v/.
>>550065919Watch as he makes his final shitpost and FLEES before we go back to Toyotaco bullying.
>>550066216>bring up an example on how unreasonable 90syama shitlickers are for anyone else>duhh out of nowhere??Nobody can't be this retarded. Maybe disingenuous? Nah.
>>550066738The issue is that you insert that into an ongoing conversation like it's relevant. It's not.It's just you getting mad at shit on other boards because you're a schizo.
>>550066050Nigger, how is what someone said on /v/ in 2020 relevant to what's happening on /vg/ in 2025? Move the fuck on.
>>549978970Twitterfags like the lamest shit i swear
>>550066843>>550066843>The issue is that you insert that into an ongoing conversation like it's relevant.Totally not because it hurt your feefees and narrative on the ongoing topic.
>>550066925I can post more non-/v/ and non-Jijii examples if you like. I like to see what kind of boogeyman you're gonna call me next.
>>550067365Please show where anyone brought up Youngjiji or any talk about how Toyotaro's issues are that he isn't "Toriyama enough" in this discussion before you showed up and acted like a retarded animal.
>>550067595>You're not allowed to counterargue the topic because not exclusively about Toyotaro's shortcomings >implying most of the nitpicking doesn't come down to "doesn't look like 90s Dragon Ball enough"I can bring it up whenever I want, bitch. You aren't that bright yourselves.
>>550068291You're counterarguing a topic that isn't here. Nobody is talking about the things you're getting mad about, and you only bring them up so you can distract from what everyone was actually saying.
>>550068291>*it's not>>550068382>Nobody is talking about the things you're getting mad about,Uh-huh, go ahead and explain why the first post i replied to didn't cause anyone to think it's not anything what you mentioned.
>>550069020>go ahead and explain why the first post i replied to didn't cause anyone to think it's not anything what you mentioned.I'd respond to this if it was in English.
>>550069140Refer to >>550059858 or simply cry about it.
>>550071783No, you literally wrote something that makes zero sense to anyone who understands English.
I also love how you can't back yourself up as told and just boot up tour proofreeder just to dismiss me instead. What an easy self-concession.>>550071856>no examples
>>550072017>schizo>Indian>doesn't speak English>spends all day seething at decade old posts from /v/
Bejita was raped by Zarbon when he was serving Frieza. That makes sense; bejita only had a power level of 18000 at that time.
>>550072263
>>550072959I'd say the one who lost their composure was the one who brought up decade-old drama from another board.
>>550073072>bringing up an example is whatever etcpic
>>550073310An irrelevant example that applied to nothing in the thread and only made it clear that you're a deranged Toyofag with a chip on your shoulder.
>>550073525>A more blantant tracer with even worse paneling and tacky choreography getting free passes is not an exampleK
Anyways finish up so you can switch back your usual retard programming or head back to your Xitter shithole with your VPN on.
>>550073748It's not when you're entirely focused on people who aren't in this thread.If someone was actually saying that, it would be relevant, but it's not. You brought him up, out of the blue, when literally nobody had been talking about YoungJiji.This is because you're an obsessed loser with no life, and also because you had no argument. You couldn't refute anything in the critiques and so instead you diverted the discussion to "Everybody's so mean!!!!!!"
>>550058301Sexy Black :)
>>550073987Wall of gay text.
So are we actually gonna see some movement next year franchise wise or what? The Hitman Reborn, World Trigger, Psyren, Bleach and Gintama leaks all came true and those leaks mentioned a remake of Dragonball Super with SOME manga content, it's all apparently Shueisha trying to strengthen their IPs because of One Piece no longer being a weekly anime anymore after this year, it's going seasonal because Oda's fucking dying, the anime took a six month break and still caught up to Oda in a flash even after adapting 2 pages for an episode! it's crazy.
>>550074120He will never fuck you.
>>550074510Don't know how you can call others gay when you've been sucking Toyo cock for several hours.
>>550074671Self-report award.
>>550074556>and those leaks mentioned a remake of Dragonball Super with SOME manga contentLiterally the only person to ever mention this was the youtube fag
Man, you guys are horny tonight.
>>550074758You've completely given up on the argument, huh?
>>549978970>>549980045Japan's obsession with anime girls doing stupid "dances" (series of autistic hand gestures) is truly bizarre to me as a White male. I fear I will never understand them.
>>550074556Okay but sauce?
>>550075128That was you many posts ago.
>>550075091well since we're at it, i want to the bnnuy
>>550075091
>>550074631:(
>>550076348
S0 roaster
XV2 roaster
TBLR BM3Z B9MA 5L44This is a code from Gekishin Squadra's third tournament, use it here:https://dbg-squadra.bn-ent.net/en-us/serialcode/completeThe previous tournament's codes:JGHX 5J4Z M5M4 7YM2L6GT SH3Z 8M83 GNY3
>>550088673Thanks, anon
Bros, Goku lost today.
>>550087872Man if only bandai namco delayed the game for 2 more months.
>>550088920Didn't Cena retire?
>The 0 timer bug in xenoverse 2 still isnt fixed
>>550089110Goku cena lost and retired.
>>550088920Cena is Kenshiro, you idiot. Not even Tanahashi is Goku.
>>550088920>>550092095I don't get the meme here. Why would Cena be Goku or Kenshiro? Who's Tanahashi?
>>550093678Tana is the Ace of the Universe! and a Kamen Rider
Goku would probably not like a Cultivation world very much. A setting where any tournaments, and even random sparring matches, are liable to turn into clan feuds and wipe out innocents families sounds like exactly the kind of stuff that kills the mood for him.
>>550093678Look at the t-shirt color in >>550088920 and decide for yourself.
>>550096481White isn't really part of Goku's color scheme, I'd even say that his color is more black due to his hair color.
>>550096551Cope
>Haruhi is getting a new season before DBS
>>550098439DBS is never getting another season because it's not a seasonal anime.
>>550099179Good. DBS should return in 2027.
>>550059345technically that's punished chronoa, not the boss
>>550076348>>550087348Kys furfaggot
>>550098439>Haruhi is getting a new seasonIt's not
>>550087348>>550076348Cute
there is nothing wrong with wanting to the bunny
Finally got that 21 wallpaper
>>550104873And the towa one
>>550104873>>550105019Congrats
>>550098439DBS is never getting another season because it was superseded by Daima.
>>550088920we have to crucify Triple H.
>>550112331First castrate Triple h. After that crucify him.
is this real
Come up with a new Tournament arc in Dragon Ball. It can be set in any series or time period (as long as it respects the original manga canon). No "tournament as a front for the villain's plot" allowed, the tournament must run its course and be the main focus of the arc. You can use any format of the tournament from the series or come up with a new one.
>>550119372i know they arr rook same but that very much isn't Nozawa
>>550098439>>Haruhi is getting a new seasonYeah and a new Half-Life will be at the E33 awards and not Mega Man
>>550119675I actually wrote a short fanfic about Gohan being in the Junior Division of the 24th Tenkaichi Budokai https://archiveofourown.org/works/55242100/chapters/140123755Here's another idea>Set in the Seven Year timeskip>it's a play on the tournament from the Bojack film but with actual aliens stopping by due to the absurd power readings coming from Earth>aliens don't want to take over the planet, just want to fight>ends with Gohan winning (obviously)Side ideas for it>an alien girl that loses to Gohan and instantly falls in love with him (stolen from my own fanfiction)>Yamcha making it to the semifinals of a tournament for the first time in series history, only to be matched against Gohan or Piccolo>no Vegeta or Trunks, Gohan is the only Saiyan involved
>>550076348>>550087348>>550102602Plapplapplapplapplap
>>550119372AI generated
>>550119675Zeno, after being impressed with the tournament of power wants another one, this time including the universes that did not participate in the first one that be Universes 1, 5,8 and 12. they will compete with the 3 universes that impressed Zeno the most in the first tournament, Universes 11, 6 and 7 making a total of 7 competing universes, it won't be a free for all battle royal like last time either nor will it be teams of 10 instead the battle system will be bracket style, the teams will be teams of 5 and each universe's god of destruction will compete against each other in a game of Zeno's choosing from combat to cooking to trivia to even something as simple as rock paper scissors. Since Zeno is rather impatient but flexiable the universes can decide among themselves if they'd rather fight together or 1 VS 1, however if 3 members of the opposing team fall or are unable to battle anymore it's an automatic loss for them.Because mortal levels are not judged this time there will be no erasure upon a universe's overall defeat, instead their God of destruction will be added to the rotation to sub for Zeno's bodyguards for 3 months in earth time. There will be no restriction on flight or fusion as long as the potara are provided before the round begins. The winning universe once again gets to use the Super Dragonballs for 1 wish, however if they so choose the competitors of the winning universe can choose to do the followingSwap one of the losing universe's god of destruction for zeno's bodyguard duty for their own, should they do so 1 of their team members must act as a substitute god of destruction in their place for that 3 months choose to battle their teammates for the right to use the super dragon balls as they wish this will be a free for all. accept a zeno button to call xeno to your location no matter where you are, Universe 7 is not qualified for this choice as they already have a zeno button
>>550098439>post that will obviously age like shitI don't even like DBS or have expectations for it, but they're still promoting it, so there's still something coming.Meanwhile, Haruhi has some lame gacha crossover with Lucky Star and a movie rescreening.If it does get something before the G show, I'll eat Bulma's fat shit in front every one.
>>550119372Nano Banana ahhh screenshot
>>550121095>forcing the same-ass U6 jobbers againU3 lasted longer. Give them some love instead.
>>550088920it's been funny watching people slowly transition from hating super cena, to appreciating cena, to full-on loving super cena enough that they're pissed he actually lost his retirement match like most other wrestlers do
>>550121205Haruhi got a new anime confirmation from the guy who leaks everything correctly.I'd rather have Lucky Star back though, always enjoyed it more.
>>550123156>expectationHOLY SHIT NEW SEASON AAAAAAAAA>realityit's just a reanimated recap of the show (with some teasers) like gundam wing got not that long ago
>>550122982U3 managed to achieve a total of 1 (one) elimination.
>>550122996Cena had a better run when he was full time. So this retirement tour thing doesn't bother me. Even in a WWE video game I'd rather play as the 2004,2007,2010, 2012-2015 cena versions. Post 2017, he wasn't the same.
>>550123542They still had guts for taking on U11 and U7 instead of attacking the weaker ones.
>>550125162U6 also attacked U7 and U11 with results for both.
>>550119675There's a tournament open to all mortals in the 12 universes. No one is forced to join, no erasure, you join because you want to. The first phase culls down the participants to a top 16. It's a big free for all like ToP that stops when there's 16 left standing. Then it becomes a classic style bracket to a winner.Winner gets a wish from super dragon balls. The chance at a wish attracts some sketchy individuals to the tournament to try winning it. Some groups that enter will try working together to get as many of them as possible to the elimination portion.
if you squint you can almost see the game Sparking Zero could have been.
>>550130690the same game but the hair glows more??
floof supremacy>>550130753in some ways, yes. lol
if DBS Broly ever learns Blue i kinda hope it looks like Restrained Broly's blue hair.
>>550130690>>550130859idk i don't think it works that well, but i don't like how SZ did namek SS goku hair so i'm biased>>550131034this one looks better, but is still plagued by SZ shitty wobbly hair
Without googling, I'm going to assume there's a Paragus-Broly meme variant with Shaggy and Scooby, and then will post it here.
>>550131752I couldn't find shit what the hell
>>550131034I don't need Broly to have God Ki desuI think it's more interesting for his Legendary SS form to be unrestricted and unrestrained by other forms. Like how Gohan's mystic form trivializes SSJ
>>550134698i agree, it was just a "if it has to be" sort of take.>>550131339i understand. it could definitely be better.
man Sparking Zero isn't fun except with friends, what a useless game.
>>550136248i enjoy playing random tournaments against the CPU and seeing what random modded characters show up myself, but i imagine that's not to everyone's tastesdo wish random outfits were a thing though, might actually get me to finally go off and figure out how to make all those old replacers into proper costumes
>>550125162That guy was clearly one of the best fighters U3 could getI know Dyspo is very light, but Jiren actually had to take matters himself
Hey, I don't know if this is old or not but can someone explain to me why one of those patrollers here is flying around in a freaking skirt? Does she not realize how lewd that is?
>>550139382Half the people just walk around in Freeza force style leotards, I really don't see what's the big deal around skirts
>>549861469This. Even his wishes if he won the ToP had nothing do with revengeIn the anime he wanted to seek what lies beyond strength or something like that, while in the manga he just wanted to bring his master back to life
>>550142208shameless woman, you and that other black haired girl are shameless!
>>550136248pretty true. i only do a few vs CPU matches when i play. that or spend half an hour in the Color Studio.>>550136564the Sparking mod scene still has a long way to go.
>>550144923Why is Mr Yasshimo over there off the hook, huh?
>>549946398I actually really enjoy writing it.When I first made that post, I only had two chapters down, but now it's seven chapters in and at the proper start of the Buu archttps://archiveofourown.org/works/75340971/chapters/196945341
>>550145572>i only do a few vs CPU matches when i playto be fair that's all i did when playing BT at the time as well, at best i'd make a custom tournament run and that was it. But at the time i also had less games i could play, and more free time overall, didn't think of no backlog back then
>>55011967531st World Martial Arts tournament is coming up. Pan and Bulla are around 13. Pan, in the midst of puberty, goes through a mutt identity crisis compounded by a mountain of Daddy Issues and a general chuuni phase causes her to conclude she wants to be a "real saiyan", so goes to Vegeta to have him teach her what that means. Their training together reignites Vegeta's 'saiyan pride'. meanwhile, Bulla becomes boilingly jealous "her" papa is having all of his attention hogged up by Pan, so to get back at him goes to Vegeta's greatest rival Goku to have him train her, purely with the goal of beating Pan. Goku and Vegeta decide to have their proteges duke it out at the 31st Tenkaichi.
>archive of our ownno one reply to it
>>550150246nah fuck that man, nothing wrong with a fun fanfic>>550146296i'm glad you're enjoying it
>>550150246is ffnet the only approved dbg fanfic website or something
>>550150432you clearly don't know his autism, he's almost as bad as the /a/ fag, almost, I've seen him in other threads, just ignore, trust me
>>550150592well considering 3 of his fics on that account are dragon ball related, one of which being what he wrote here last week, and the other 1 being an RE fic, i'm curious exactly what kind of autism you're talking about
>>550150592My contributions to this thread have primarily been Goku having sex with a minor character in DB and being one of 2-3 occasional femhan posters.
>>550119675Zeno is making a new universe because he thinks the rest of the multiverse can handle themselves post-TOP and is organizing a tournament to decide who would be in charge of said Universe.Goku and co get roped in to represent one of the candidates in that tournament.From that point on, either make it a Dark Tournament type team tournament OR make it a Tenkaichi type tournament with Goku fighting his way throughout the tournament, with new characters having their own matches.
>>550143330>In the anime he wanted to seek what lies beyond strength or something like thatWhat lies beyond strength was more his overall goal in life, similar to Goku's general 'Always improve' goal.His wish was never revealed in the anime IIRC.
>>550119675Universe 12, the first universe to invent time travel, goes behind the backs of the gods to further explore this technology. Eventually, they present their finding to Zeno and propose a new tournament based around different timelines/time distortions.Zeno becomes interested and is fascinated by the idea of seeing many different versions of Universe 7 fight, including one where the various villains defeated the heroes, hitherto unseen characters such as movie villains are prominent, and alternate realities in general, like one where every Namekian merged into one fighter or one where everything sci-fi.I think we could call this work "Dragon Ball Multiverse" or DBM for short.
>>549937071What would a timeloop even do to most DB characters except give them infinite opportunity to just be autismos?
How would DBM go if their main Goku wasn't complete shit and it wasn't written by someone who hate Goku?
>>550152652Goku would inspire a lot of the morally bankrupt people to do better like he always does
>>550152930Elaborate.
>>550152930Name one person that isn't a fat fuck retard or Vegeta from the "Z" portion of DB.
>>550152996Well the most obvious one is Kakarot, no? Kind of just being his own grandpa gohan I guess. Granted i'm not sure Kakarot would even exist because his entire deal slanders goku pretty hard
>>550152652the story probably wouldn't have been intended to go beyond the tournament arc for one, goku would've been waku waku'ing people into being better (or dead) the whole way throughplus vegito might've actually felt like he had a bit of goku in him, and compared to our reality's DBM that's practically unthinkable
>>550153019Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Krillin, Yamcha, Oolong. Even Freeza in a way.
>>550153289>from the "Z" portion of DBAlso, it was Gohan who influenced Piccolo
>>550153184Goku inspiring Kakarot to become better and surpass his Vegeta, indirectly putting an end to the Super Saiyans' reign of terror would have been kino.And ironically made Kakarot into a mix of Bardock and Yamoshi.>>550153289Also Buu, if he hadn't given him the idea to break free of Babidi, Satan would have had no shot at getting close to Buu.
>>550153490Kid buu too if you want to count uub, though that's a bit more of a stretch
>>550153367>Also, it was Gohan who influenced PiccoloIf that was true, Piccolo would have just been nuking cities the second Goku gave him a senzu and probably wouldn't have risked his life against Raditz.Kami and Goku even point it out when it turns out Raditz went to the afterlife.
Personally I think the tournament needs more actual stakes for its participants, all these invasion and uber threats having the tournament keep going despite barely anyone being that invested into it feels weird
>>550154326what
>>550154547the DBM tournament, 90% of the participants have no personal stake in the tournament, including the organizers themselves. Which makes everyone's autistic fixation on keeping it going all the more confusing
>>550150432cute Pan
>>550154326Just remove the ubers threats. No reason to interrupt the tournament with them. The only tournament that has that in DB is the Buu saga one and it get the entire thing canceled instantly.
>>550154901Well no, the tournament kept going but became a battle royale that Mr satan "won" by convincing 18
>>550155007I don't think it kept going after Vegeta nuked the stands.
>>550154326I don't think a tournament needs stakes so much as motivations.The three real tournaments in DB pre-Super were just this>Goku wants to win>Goku wants to win AND Tenshinhan is an asshole, school rivalry>Goku wants to win AND Piccolo is evilEveryone there though is competing solely to win the tournament (except Piccolo and Chichi in the last one). They all just want to be the strongest one there.The issue is the human tournament idea, because these fights are too big for humans to spectate as they did in the past. Here, look at the other two tournaments in DB>Cell GamesEstablished as a free for all against one guy, but its function is really just a way to cleanly divide two fights.>25th Tenkaichi BudokaiIs skipped over entirely. The only part of the tournament truly focused on is Goten and Trunks, and they are the only relevant participants in their brackets.The irony with the 25th is that I looked up a fanmade non-Majin bracket for it, and it actually does have a solid series of fights in it.Piccolo vs Kuririn rematch, Videl vs Gohan quarterfinals, Goku vs Vegeta, Gohan vs Piccolo, and the final match would be Gohan vs Goku.But this tournament would be absurd, either in regards to 'how are people even watching this' or 'Why isn't the entire arena destroyed?' Easy remedies for this though>Bulma patents and sells a deus ex machina to the tournament officials so that the fighters can go all out without doing absurd damage to the ring>Everyone just holds back really hard / uses a deus ex machina to make themselves fight at a lower levelThe motive issue is also key, which is why the characters need expansion. I have an idea in mind for a potential tournament, similar to one posted before, it'll be in another post.
>>550155131>or 'Why isn't the entire arena destroyed?'That one is easy to answer, the characters are just that skilled at controlling their power during a tournament match.Like when Goku and Beerus fought in the middle of a city without breaking a single window in BOG.
>>550155131I mean this is true but multiverse wants to have these big interruptions and super bad beings that want to nuke the multiverse like broly, babidi, XXI, etc. So you kind of need to have extrinsic motivations to not cancel the entire thing right there
>>550154757>the DBM tournament>>>/r/eddit
>>550155131>>Everyone just holds back really hard / uses a deus ex machina to make themselves fight at a lower levelKi control already solve that issue where they can fight at full power (within limits since the more they push, the harder it is to control) without collateral damage.
>>550155083It was already over, satan had won. It's just that vegeta and goku teleported in right after it ended so people hadn't left the stands yet
>>550155131just have the saiyan fighters agree to not use SSJ and you find that it's a somewhat competitive and plausible competition.
>>550155131>The picI'd say that even with just SSJ2, Goku would probably have an edge on Gohan. Gohan isn't as skilled and experienced as Goku, without forgetting some of Goku's tricks like IT and not hesitating to use the ring out rule.
>>550155131The anon who mentioned a Pan vs Bra rivalry had a good idea. The best way to do a new tournament now would be to do a next generation school rivalry, but I don't think Bra would end up training with Goku in a post-EoZ world. The schools might end up being>Goku - Uub>Vegeta - PanThat's four of a potential 8 to 16 man tournament. If Bra were to compete, and she were jealous of Pan, I could see her maybe dragging Gohan out of retirement (hell, DBS:SH seems to angle into the idea that Gohan is already leaving his retirement from fighting, so a protégé could be a good next step), so assuming that:>Gohan - BraWhich gives us six, which is a good number for the thematic idea of the tournament as that's over half for 8, and nearly half for 16, all with a goal (in some capacity) to surpass the other 'school' there.Other characters that could be included>Goten & Trunks (as Saiyaman X-1 and X-2)>Piccolo (wanting to see how much Pan has grown)>Gamma 2 (interested in showing off mainly, primarily a gag character for it)>#18 (for the money)>Mr. Satan (intending to let Pan take over, like in the GT tournament)And then there's three Round 1 jobbers to fill out the remainder.
>>550157165>Gamma 2He's dead tho. It's Gamma 1 who's he alive and he's the serious one
>>550105763Thanks
>>550157165Bra isn't a fighter.
>>550157165>Vegeta winning the whole thing>Goku losing first round to an NPCPretty weird pic honestly.
>>550152652>Better fights>Gets to interact with Schizoku>Does something that unwittingly has bad consequences>Loses the tournament but puts up a fight
>>550157328Thanks, I haven't seen the movie since it came out.>>550157165And a final aside as to how I wrote this tournament in my head.Remember, the tournament lasts a single day, and for fairness, we'll say nobody is using senzu.>Gohan vs Gamma 1Gohan win, but it takes a bit out of him.>Piccolo vs NPCPiccolo win.>Goten vs PanA replay of Goten losing to Pan in the anime filler for EoZ. >Mr. Satan vs. Buu, Goku vs. NPC, Vegeta vs NPCSatan, Goku, and Vegeta move to the next round.>Uub vs #18He's actually stronger than her by this point, so #18 plays on her sexuality (in reference to Ranfan vs Namu), but she still loses.>Bra vs TrunksSame as Goten vs Pan.>Gohan vs PiccoloThe two exhaust each other by going all out, and Gohan narrowly wins against him.>Pan vs Mr. SatanA mostly comedic fight a la Pan's whole thing during the GT tournament about being Satan's successor. Pan wins.>Goku vs Vegeta, Uub vs BraCan go either way.If Goku wins, then Uub beats Bra to fight his mentor.If Vegeta wins, then it's Bra fighting her father.Either way, Goku and Vegeta will be completely exhausted anyways.>Gohan vs PanSame deal with Goku and Vegeta.>Final MatchEither Pan vs Bra or Pan vs Uub.>>550157743I just covered up the original orange lines in the bracket.>>550157502It's my AU.Also, we don't even know anything about Bra since we've only ever seen her as a baby or a toddler.
>>550157968>He's actually stronger than her by this point, so #18 plays on her sexuality (in reference to Ranfan vs Namu), but she still loses.18 doing that would be massively out of character given she's a married woman with kids by this point
>>550158260She really wants the money.
>>550158307Krillin has a stable job by now and they're doing fine. Even if she did need the money I don't see her becoming a stripper for it
>>550157960I think Goku could also be the cause for some of the power ups over the tournament instead of it just being Zen Buu throwing power ups around.
>>550158526I honestly think zen buu is one of the characters that should be cut entirely. He's a massive pain to write around and as such doesn't add anything
>>550157968>Gohan win, but it takes a bit out of him.It works even better with Gamma 1 since it counts as a rematch.
>>550157968This idea is extremely repetitive. Look how many times you go "same as before in this tournament" or "same as in an earlier show".
>>550158598He's redundant with the infinite DB sets the tournament has prepared anyway.Hell, there's very little difference between his influence on the tournament and XXI's chatGPT dragon.
>>550158792>Look how many times you go "same as before in this tournament" or "same as in an earlier show".NTA but that's only once each.
>>550158792Tournaments by nature are repetitive, what makes them is the strength of individual matchups.I'm just using the guideline of a 16-man tournament, which is what the main tournaments of DB do after the Cell Games.Like, even 8-man tournaments struggle to not repeat themselves. Yamcha is a quarter-finalist loser three times in a row (and he always loses to the mysterious newcomer), Goku always starts by fighting someone who is completely pathetic by comparison, Kuririn is a semi-finalist loser twice in a row, that kind of thing.This is why DB dropped tournaments as well. I'm not saying "DB should do this", I'm going "Well, here's one that could happen and have real motivations behind it". DB has moved far beyond this type of tournament, which is why the last two were >Universe 6A 5v5 with four gag characters essentially (or half the contestants), and>Tournament of PowerA succession of 1v1s wherein the manga, rushing to the end, had to find excuses to eliminate dozens of people all in a couple pages.
>>550159026>Goten vs Pan as in EoZ>then repeat it with Trunks and Bra>repeat Pan/Satan successor gag from GT>repeat Lanfan with #18>have both Gohan vs. Piccolo and Goku vs. Vegeta be near ties that end with the victor unable to fight properly and lose to the kids
>>550159785>Lanfangshe's at least as old as Yamcha. nobody wants to see some granny strip nude
>>550159535For what it's worth, DB tournaments which are focus of their arcs are usually fought against new characters>21TB4/8 finalists are introduced just for the tournament (Krillin was also introduced the same arc though earlier)>Baba TournamentThe entire enemy team, so 5/5 fighters is new.>22TBAgain 4/8 roster is new with only our 4 heroes returning.>23TBThis one is the outlier in that every finalist was previously introduced (well, ha, though 3/8 we only saw in a serious fight for the first time (Ma Junior, Kami, Chi-Chi), but it was also kinda climax of the first 200 chapters of story.>U6The entire enemy team is new, Monaka too.>ToP65/80 characters are new.So if there was another tournament, I'd expect it to have plenty of newcomers who wouldn't be just NPCs that get spanked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA3mgb7LXmM
>>550162589has vegeta ever used gallick gun while on the ground? seems like a really inconvenient motion to do
>>550162808He did against Zamasu with Trunks
>>550158526That could fall under "Does something that unwittingly has bad consequences". A thing Toriyama does with DB is that bad things tend to happen indirectly because of him (Pilaff freeing Piccolo Daimaoh, Raditz, Vegeta and Nappa coming to Earth, Freeza learning of the dragon balls, Gero creating the androids, Beerus coming to Earth, Freeza returning stronger than ever, Black, ToP), though, Goku is also the one who solves everything.
>>550164996blaming him for piccolo diamoh seems like a stretch. Frieza learning of the dragonballs was entirely piccolo's fault for deciding to monolouge to raditz about them
>>550166594kek
>>550165461It's indirectly because of him. Pilaff only freed Piccolo Daimaoh because Goku kept foiling his plans, and Freeza learning of the dragon balls is all a chain of events caused by Raditz coming to Earth. Stuff like that is why Goku claims he's a doom magnet in Cell saga (Even if his point is bad).
>>550173438I do not get why daima ss3 gets a past when everyone shit on beast
>>550173638it doesn't, people complain about SS3 vegeta not looking exactly like he did in heroes and RB all the time
>>550173438should've been the opposite, so that SS3 Gogeta doesn't just look like Goku
>>550174138I still see more people okay with it/ defend it than I do beast. Art in general is much more willing to show ss3 daima as it normally is whereas in most beast art people nerf how big the hair is
>>550173638>>550173638Because Beast came out of nowhere and doesn't explain itself SS3 not being forever tied to a long flowing mane is probably opening up a lot of creative doors for people so they don't wanna shit on starfish Vegeta since it gave them a chance to move away from always having lion mane hair that Goku and Gotenks have, in fact didn't even Heroes a hire to that unspoken rule?
>>550175480I'm talking more about design than concept, anon. I think vegeta's 3 looks dumb for the same reason beast looks dumb. Giant pillar of gravity defying hair looks kind of shitty
>>550174276I think with beast due to perspective like from a front view it doesn't look as long. When he's charging or firing it looks like picrel from the front because the hair points backward. You'd have to draw him from a side perspective to really see the long hair. With SS3 Vegeta the way people draw it often is that side view that really emphasizes how long the hair is.
>>550173438This makes no sense. Vegito takes after Goku in appearance. Should be the opposite.
>>550180640I don't think i've seen anyone say this ever. Don't a lot of dragonball characters have similar faces anyways with their hair being the main differentiating factors
Say Janemba gets brought back. Would you prefer Janemba as some hell-beast, should he be from the demon realm, or should he be a multiversal threat?
>>550185095I mean janemba's lore fluff doesn't really matter given he has no personality, as long as his fighting style is intact that's all that matters
>>550185095I'd actually want to see him as Multiversal threat. Like some kind of demonic counterpart to angels. I've always wanted to see Whis go all out, and I kind of want to see what bullshit they use to make Goku and (or maybe just Goku kek) Vegeta temporarily angel tier.
I've had thoughts on how I'd bring back every movie villain.>Garlic Jr.Demon realm obviously, another entity vying to rule it. Perhaps make it so that his father was the one who came before Abura. >Dr. Uiro If they ever go back to RRA stuff, he could be worked in as a rival to Dr. Gero that was executed by the RRA for failing in some regard, but his brain remained backed up elsewhere and he continued work for decades following.>Tullece & The Crusher CorpsA rampaging band of Saiyajins from U6 who take over Sadala after conquering other worlds with the Tree of Might.>CoolaHeeters kind of shot him down entirely, as they occupy the space I would've put him in. An alternative is that he was an outcast son of Cold who was enjoying a life of solitude until Freeza's return.>Super #13They really can't be anything else. >BojackGoku destroying the walls of the Demon Realm unseals him this time. Maybe you could say Garlic Jr. was trapped in there too, like a sort of phantom zone that was only stable through the separation of the demon realm's layers.In DBS though, he could just as easily be from another universe and sees Universe 7 as an easier mark than most others (for some reason).>JanembaI think multiversal threat would be better, as his idea was how he was distorting the afterlife and indirectly causing chaos on Earth- so why not have him be made up of the remains of erased universes, they hit a boiling point and Janemba is created as a sort of anti-Zeno, that causes havoc and calamity across all the universes, all while the Zenos and Angels are trapped by his magic. >Hirudegarn & TapionThey'd have to be demon realm inhabitants due to Tapion's ears (think the old man has the same deal), so maybe the old man sneaks out of the demon realm to trick people from Universe 7 into helping them (since Tapion's story is common knowledge down there among those who could unseal him).
>>550186059I don't think there's any worth in bringing back wheelo, he's quite possibly one of the most nothing movie villians. Though not as much as slug given you entirely forgot to mention him
>>550185095Not necessarily how I'd want him back but thought of a fun idea. Janemba is the Buu of U6 starting as the fat one. Their "fusion reborn" is Kale and Caulifla doing a fusion dance.
>>550186362Funny you say that, since I looked him up when writing that and found out he was brought back with a human body in SDBH
>>550186591Yeah he was known as the mysterious character Dr. W for a while people immediately knew he was Wheelio, what's werid is that his disguise tore off like it was made of paper and became a slimmer version of the huge bot we know, less star wars looking thing more humanoid in appearance but still a brain. It was weird, you could tell they were struggling with trying to make a kaio ken tier enemy actually a threat, kinda like what they did with Bojack and TurlesYou know, I think out of all the movie villains Garlic Jr and Slug are the most ignored, third place being Bojack as even through he shows up he rarely does much before getting killed in heroes stories, meanwhile Cooler, Turles, Janemba, Broly you'll always see them in spin off stuff they can't get enough of those fuckers
>>550187496garlic junior and slug I at least see in fanfics on occasion, mostly because dark water mist is nice filler to give the humans something to do. No one gives a FUCK about wheelo
>>550174276this is true. i hate that Daima SSJ3 is kinda growing on me, but i don't ever see that happening with Beast or DSSJ4 because the height and color of Gohan's hair is corny and so are DSSJ4's cuffed sleeves and gorilla hands. at least DSSJ3 isn't as comedically huge as Beast – which is a fucking crazy stat, by the way.
>>5501910782/2
>>550187496>You know, I think out of all the movie villains Garlic Jr and Slug are the most ignoredHe was forgotten once again...
Anons according to the a mainline game every two years rule, we should be getting a console/pc game in 2026. What will it be? Personally I think it'll be either Xenoverse 3 or an OG Dragon ball kakarot game.
>>550191252imagine wearing her like a sleeve
>>550192175you know, if I woke up looking like that I'd also run towards the nearest living thing and kill it
>>550191078I think what helps in making SS3 Vegeta's hair less ridiculous is that it's an exaggeration of Vegeta's already long hair.
>>550192708M U S O UUSOU>>550193607i really like these proportions. what Beast Gohan mod is that?
>>550194302It's from the game itself. I got it from here:https://youtu.be/d5AhPAsxXag?t=677
>>550194302I had legitimately no idea full power super saiyan 4 even existed until I sat down to actually watch GT in its entirety for the first time. It's an oddly obscure form
>>550195252>It's an oddly obscure formIt's not treated as its own form when it debuts. Goku only mentions it when he gets it again against Omega, and even then the English dub probably changed the line, and since it doesn't look visually different, you may forget. Most games completely ignored it too, and even SDBH, one of the few games that used it, only added it years after SS4LB.
>>550195252because it's so dumb that the fandom and video games pretend it doesn't exist and that regular SSJ4 is the 'full power' state.
>>550195138oh wow, i didn't realize till now that the devs produced a pretty reasonably-sized rendition of his hair compared to Xenoverse and Legends. i might actually buy the DLC knowing that. thanks anon.
>>550195647There should be a plot in future where Piccolo can also improve his orange form by training more and being a bit slim. His orange form looks hideous.
>>550013112ms.breedable right there.
>>550195252i barely even think of it as a standalone form. it's less Blue Evolution and more Super Vegeta (i.e. Super Vegeta is superseded by SSJ2 but Blue Evo is still Vegeta's peak outside the SHARTnga.)
>>550195252>I had legitimately no idea full power super saiyan 4 even existed until I sat down to actually watch GT in its entirety for the first time. What I find specially weird is that fans ignore Ultra Full Power Saiyan 4, even though it is an actual form in GT, but on the other hand, I see fans insisting that SS Full Power/Grade 4 is a different transformation from SS1, even though the manga itself doesn't treat it that way.
>>550196445I mean the autism i've seen here is less if full power super saiyan 4 is a seperate thing and more if it's something that exists at all. I don't want to get into that autism though
Not gonna lie I’m kinda glad Gekishin is dying. Hopefully they’ll finally boot Toshi from the company. Everything he touches turns to dog shit.
if you haven't tried the Better Combat and Stable Camera mods for Sparking Zero yet, you should consider it next time you play! i haven't gotten a hang of the Combat mod yet but i can tell by the trailers and by how the CPU is kicking my ass on Weak that it opens the game up a lot. i'm having considerably more fun and an easier time following the action than last time i played.
>>550196592super saiyan grade 4/ full power super saiyan rather. Not super saiyan 4
>>550196623i meant to post a trailer link, fuck.https://youtu.be/9KDbVVOoKjQ?si=pFbMLqOqnTiZ5iMC
>spirit fission got referenced in Dokkan
>>550196592>and more if it's something that exists at all.I think even GT writers forgot about it. Bulma talks about surpassing SS4 may be possible with her Blutz Wave Generator, but Goku technically already did with UFPS4.
>>550197383why the fuck does ginyu know yardratian techniques
>>550186059>They'd have to be demon realm inhabitants due to Tapion's ears (think the old man has the same deal),There's a lot of descendent from the demon realms in the normal universe with pointy ears and not EVERYONE with pointy ears is a Majin
>>550196623it seems to bring back a lot of the cool stuff from BT3, which is pretty neat
>>550197526He was supposed to go there originally, maybe he had intel in what they can do? Knowing something as specific as Spirit Fission is odd though... Does this dialogue go anywhere?
>>550196608>Hopefully they’ll finally boot Toshi from the company.He went from Dokkan, to Heroes to Gekishin. He implements predatory monetization, and Bamco doesn't care as long as it makes them money, so Toshi will stay around, ruining more games in the future.
>>550198110>to Heroes*to Legends
>>550197383I know the games usually use the manga for attacks if the characters don't have many, but do they usually reference the manga like that?
>>550197383I guess this goes to the list of Super manga references in games? How big is the list now?
>>550198398The LR Roshi event in Dokkan retells the manga story of him fighting Jiren.
YABBA DABBA DOOOOO!
>>550202790This is extra funny because it's implied that Flintstones are all gay lmao.
>>550192708>Anons according to the a mainline game every two years rule, we should be getting a console/pc game in 2026.Also according to the fucking news we got months ago.https://www.gematsu.com/2025/10/new-dragon-ball-game-project-to-be-announced-in-january-2026
>>550210454Not bad.
>>550196082>There should be a plot in future where Piccolo can also improve his orange form by training more and being a bit slim.That could work.>His orange form looks hideous.I think he's funny looking.
What is the S.S. short for?
>>550211583Super Science?
Whats the s2 gekishin tier list
>>550214208Gohan and SSJ4 Vegeta at the top and everyone else is irrelevant
>>550211583considering the Red Ribbon Army wears its Nazi inspirations on its sleeve...
>>550211583Super Saiya
>>550214687kek the faction founded by an irish midget and a black guy is nazi? get real frfr
>>550197581hell yeah.>>550210454woah, that is pretty good.
>>550211583Super Special
>>550211583Sado-Sex
It's crazy how Krillin hard-carried the team post-Saiyan Saga, I was rewatching the anime and he's basically the one coming up with all the plans until they get to Namek.
https://x.com/DbsHype/status/2000517887904092609
now that the festival is over xenoverse players are gonna go into hibernation til april
>>550224248That Ryuken looks great.Also the companions make me really think they made the Daima DLC basically a mechanically superior Sandland, at least when it come to the ground combat. Sandland has the same kind of teammates system.
>>550224829Movie 13 canon to Daima confirmed
>>550225758I still don't know why Goku didn't do a Ryuken against Gomah, the set up for it was perfect.Was it some rights issues somewhere?
>>550225836Probably not, they probably lazy'd out on having to animate and draw the dragon when they could just cut corners and do a kamehameha through the chest and through the demon realm. It's weird because the kamehameha against him with kid ss4 goku seemed just as destructive
>>550225836Why do people think it was supposed to be a Ryuken? I never got the impression while watching. Kamehameha is the series most icconic attack, makes sense they wanted to end on it.
they gave dragon fist to ultra instinct mastsered goku in heroes shitty last arc didn't they?
>>550227138>Why do people think it was supposed to be a Ryuken?How Goku powered up and raised his fist just gave that vibe.>Kamehameha is the series most icconic attackWhich was already used already tho.
Honestly reminds me of Ichigo's Getsugas, this is why fight wise I like Naruto and Luffy better their fights don't always end with the same attack and even if they do end it's always creative, Naruto got a hell of a lot more varied after the time skip and Luffy only ended two of his fights with a gattling gun like move and each time was different meanwhile nearly any goku or ichigo fight always ends with a kamehameha or a getsuga tensho
>>550228719Goku doesn't win that often with the Kamehameha but he does use it more and more as the franchise goes.
>>550228719Absolute nonsense, after Arlong, every main fight of Luffy ends with either a big punch or a barrage of punches.
Dabura if he a Kresnikbro
>>550232953>a KresnikbroA what?
>>550224248It's still funny to think Daima will have its full story covered in a game about a year after the release, while Super Hero, DBS Broly and the U6 tournament are respectively 3, 7, and 9 years and counting without even a bare bones coverage.
>>550224683aren't we getting news in january?
>>550233876I'm epecting Kakarot 2 to deal with it eventually, but yeah. SZ could have done it but they were lazy as hell with the story.
>>550224248I wonder if they're skipping the Giants episode. That's quite many additional assets to make for an one-off filler episode that amounted to nothing.
>>550224248Looks elaborate and carefully planned.The complete opposite of the Daima DLCs for Sparking Zero.
>>550197526He says that he learned it because he wanted to return to his original body, but is unable to use it on himself, so he teaches it to Chiaotzu.
>>550235498>>550192708I don't think we're ever getting a game focused on a series that isn't Z again.
I haven't played XV2 in years holy fuck I don't remember a single combo string or what all these moves do there's so much shit the dlc pq are bullying me jesus christ tasuketeI finally understand gohan
>>550238925RIP, Jobber anon.
>>550238039This is the best time for an OG DB game. A Super game can roll out once the anime returns.
>>550242257anon we didn't even get a super game when the anime was fresh
>>550211583Screw Streamer
Well?
Kakarot is an awful, boring, mindless game and I don't understand how people enjoy it so much. I was too bored to keep playing after vegeta.
>>550245959I'd be killed by Freeza like all of them.
>>550245959rape human twinks, next question
>>550246205I really don't get how much people rave about it.I see people going "This is the best way to experience the anime!" and I'm just thinking "What fucking game did you play?"The presentation is fucking weak aside from an obligatory five minutes every arc where suddenly good animation appears, the environments just look bad most of the time, the raw gameplay is mindnumbing and never evolves, the side events and side quests near-universally suck, and it doesn't do anything interesting with itself.You'd think a narrative focused DB game would be a cool opportunity to do some what-ifs and side adventures and you ALMOST get that with the dead villains, but all it really is is two seconds of interesting conversation and then NOTHING. The worst part is that the big super boss hidden story is a fucking advertisement for Xenoverse, I'm just baffled by the whole affair.It might be my least favourite DB game, simply for how high its aspirations were and how hard it dropped the ball in every single regard. Hell, even the very RARE good looking cutscene is ruined by being a compressed FMV, so even that isn't worth playing the game for.Maybe the DLCs fix this issue, I wouldn't know, I played the Battle of Gods one and quit the game when it revealed to me that the sole purpose of it was to grind until you're the right level to 'get' the big transformation (and presumably an actual ending). Absurd.If anyone cares, I did write a delirious and annoying review some time agohttps://backloggd.com/u/Baka_Ouji/review/1496870/
>>550247982i think the issue with Kakarot is that it was too big a bite for CC2 to chew. they had 4 games to build an asset library and adapt all of Naruto Part 2 but were asked to cover all of DBZ in a single game. Scamco should have given them a more reasonable mandate.Kakarot could've covered up to Perfect Cell, then Kakarot 2 could've covered Buu and either the Z movies or the first two DBS movies, then Kakarot 3 should've been DBS up till the ToP, and Kakarot 4 would be the ToP, Broly, and then Super Hero as DLC. they just aren't being given enough time to make all the assets and shit that are required to tell all of the DBZ story. look at Hinokami Chronicles: they're getting to tell that story over the course of multiple games and it's turning out signficantly better game-to-game than Kakarot did.
Lewd 21 https://twitter.com/Navietta/status/1999274031258984639?s=19
you guys ever think it's weird that Toei and Scamco have such a hard-on for anime content, but decided to add a character who has never been in an anime (Shallot) before anyone from SDBH – even though it had a whole ass anime that they made for it? it's not fair!
>>550251035dragonball heroes doesn't exist, anon. Did you mean the new card game dragonball super divers?
Still the peak of dragon ball gaming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3O9pDkW-eA
>>550251147AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! NOO! IT ISN'T TRUE!
>>550251453>Ultra JOBgo in the thumbnailPeak of SHIT.
>>550215140Hitler himself was semitic as fuck
>>550251035He was added to SZ as a cross-promotion event. Heroes died before SZ even came out, it's not goong to be promoted anymore.
>>550252583...still less of a jobber than the future jobber who got his entire reality DESTROYED because he was WEAK.
So Dokkan just added a story where Ginyu learns Forced Spirit Fission from the Moro arc lmaohttps://x.com/MilkFreeza/status/2000518628257456309
>>550256178January 25.
>>550256330we already had the cell arc
>>550257194but did you have cell arc but good? because thats what it is
>>550256125Zamasu...
>>550256178what the fuck they really did it
>>550257495>but goodWhat about the Moro arc is Cell but good, because I just remember it turning into Naruto and having a shit ending
>>550246205>filenameThis is what Goku has to put up with while training Uub.
>>550256178>Ginyu wants to go back to his original bodyThat actually sounds cool
>>550256178>>550257590>Spirit FissionSDBH did it first. TRACEtaro only traced, as always.
>>550261498It always feels weird to assume that Ginyu's body isn't his original.I mean, it kind of makes sense. Why would the guy who can change bodies with stronger opponents keep going back to his old one?But also, Dragon Ball was a weekly manga where Toriyama just made stuff up on the fly. There's no way to tell that from Ginyu's first appearance to when he swapped bodies with Goku that even Toriyama himself knew he was going to have the ability to change bodies.
>>550256178>>550256330>>550257590>Dragon Ball fanbase forgets en masse that Gamma Burst Flash and Goku's Hakai have been in the games since like a decade now.
>>550263216It was an homage.
>>550263993The manga versions of U6, Goku Black and ToP had some references, yes, but this is different because nothing from the Moro and Granolah arcs have been referenced until now though.
>>550264247Ginyu didn't call the technique by it's name, so for all we know it could just be a random different one that does the same thing.
>>550238925which platform
Any leaks about what the new game may be?
>>550270861there's nothing saying that there will even BE game news are genkidamatsuri
>>550270861Dragon Ball Daima: Xenoverse
>>550270979It quite literally says so in their website
>>550271334Then I stand corrected. Still don't think i've heard basically anything "leaks" or otherwise about a new game
>>550271438I'm pretty sure all of the leaks so far are fake shit, an actual leaker would know what all three are instead of just one of them
>>550272256I don't believe anything coming out of anyone's mouth, yeah. It's why I had "leaks' In quotations.
>>550263216A fusion splitting because you beat the shit out of them isn't a technique nor something SDBH invented, retard. Fucking Hirudegan did it first with Gotenks
>>550272256I've got no idea where the remake thing even came from. At least Daima/Magic had a source when it first got announced.
>>550270861DB video games don't really get leaked do they? Nobody knew about FighterZ coming back with Daima Goku, or that Sparking Zero was going to be teased during battle hour, I don't even think people knew Sparking Zero was going to blindside us with a roster expansion until that incident. You can definitely say the ecelebs have some kind of source since pieces of Daima and Super Hero were leaked, but it doesn't extend to the video games for some reason.
>>550270861>>550277530The thing is, video game leaks require insiders at Bamco.Anime leaks just require knowing animators at Toei and its subsidiaries, which AnimeAjay and Geekdom have access to.The whole Super Remake shit comes from some literal who that doesn't have any real connections.
>>550277530SZ got a leak of the movie characters like 2 weeks before the game came out.
>>550276137Goku is clearly splitting an absorption, not a fusion. This is the only instance of this other than FSF.
>>550279090Absorption is literally fusion and has been refered as such many times in the past, and that's not even an absorption anyway. You are braindamaged
>>550278935That was the incident I was talking about. A japanese media company put SZ gameplay on Youtube and someone found it and leaked it.Bandai (or at least for DB) doesn't have actual insiders.
>>550263216Tacopacos nooooo
The day Disney finally dies will be a glorious one, as that will finally put an end to this copyright trash.
>>550263216Remember when they made it look like Goku was being trained by the Grand Priest but it just turned out all he gave him was an outfit change?
What do you guys think about Legends Fest?
>>550285305I don't play PVP>Part 1I'm glad they all got new models, and that they brought Synchros back but I hate that they were lazy and gave Gogeta ANOTHER Soul Punisher LF. That's the fourth Gogeta with a SP ult. They didn't even do anything creative with it, last year Vegito got that cool new burning attack thing and Goku Black got something new too. The win screen for Gogeta won me over though.Janemba was just....there. He's got the kid buu problem where he has all this potential for cool techniques but the games can never be bothered to think outside the box with themGotenks was cool. Sucks that they only did 1 SP though.>Part 2 Gohan was a total 9/10. Kinda bummed that they just reused his Ultra model but it's not like it was bad or anything. The LF was amazing and my only gripe was that it didn't shoot out into space. Goku/Hit is boring but also what I'd expect from a Legends Fest part 2. The fact that there are no SPs is unacceptable. it's increasingly clear that supporters are either replacing SPs or they're being lazy and making it so they can weasel their way out of having to make playable units out of tertiary characters like Belmod.>Part 3I just hope I have enough for 2 rotations. I also hope it's DBS Broly but it's probably going to be SS4 GokuThey need to finish up the storymode.
>>550283360what does Disney have to do with Toei and Shueisha
>>550287441Forgive him, he thinks the mouse owns everything
>>550277530Sparking Zero itself was leaked due to an old copywrite from 2021. No one thought much of it until that first Battle Hour teaser.
Is their a mod for this hairstyle?Long ponytail that reaches down to their back with a bow at the top and on the front long bangs. Basically a mix of Note's ponytail and Chi'Chi's bangs from her early days, I always thought that'd be a good combination but don't know how to visualize it
>>550305908like, Venus?
>>550306431Is that even a ponytail tho? I honestly have never watched Sailor Moon, I have seen the ending credits before Dragonball Z came on tho, I always thought it was weird how they had some girl being vaporized in them considering the vibe I got from the few times the show was on was that it was Clueless but cartoon.
>>550307593it is technically tied back, but not in a pony. Attacker No.1's protagonist is probably closer to what you meanit's basically Power Rangers but all the heroes are all female.
>>550307928Which means the lead and their rival are probably the only ones worth a damn in a fight
>>550308434not far off, actually. 90% of the time it is indeed Usagi (the leader) who does all the work. occasionally the other members get an episode dedicated to them where they save the day. There's also an entire half season where there's a mysterious pair of other girls who keep sniping enemies out from other the main group, eventually they join the main cast.
>>550308775I remember that name, she's the super dumb chick, right? I thought she was like 12 when I was a kid with how bratty she acted, her abilities must of been cracked for them to tolerate her and for her to be able to back it up but we're getting off track, how come back in the early days Note's ponytail looked so much longer? I can't remember the exact video but she was still in the novice outfit fighting Freiza force goons and there was a front shot that made her hair look like that Venus girl's but rather than going past her hips it just covered her back, at some point I wonder if Note was intensionally designed as Pan but actually capable of becoming a super saiyanspeaking of tail heads, I can't help but wonder what a super saiyan with twin tails would look like because of that one CAC with the hairstyle that pops up here alot
>>550310261one of the themes of the series is maturity, so over the course of the show she grows out of it. she's a whiny idiot at the start and a responsible leader by the end. without giving major plot spoilers, the other girls have a reason to follow her.
>>550310261and 12 isn't far off. she's 14 in the first season.
People forget how popular specifically Sailor Moon and DBZ were at the same point in time in the west.Like, FFN had a fanfic archive specifically for crossovers between those two shows before they even had a dedicated crossover option for fanfics. I think it's the only thing of this nature on the whole site (ignoring the generic "X-Overs" section), and the oldest fic in it is far older than most people here at 25 years old.
>>550319132There were also a fair few popular interseries ships. One I remember in particular was Gohan x Chibiusa
>>550319132they were the first anime to get aired stateside in a mostly unedited form, specifically marketed as 'Japanese animation' rather than have its origins hid like was done with Speed Racer and Robotech. they jumpstarted the anime boom in the US and the internet as a whole as a result. without them, this website would not exist.
>>550319410she's basically Future Trunks mixed with Gohan. her creator even admitted as such.
>>550319712I feel like kid of main character coming to the future used to be a more common trope. At the very least it's a very common thing to write on ao3 for whatever reason
>>550319808the specific aspect of her coming from a dystopian hellscape future with the intent of changing the past so as to change her future definitely brings her closer to Future Trunks (who himself was basically a rip off of Kyle Reese from Terminator 1; the whole of the androids arc in general is a riff on Terminator).
made me dig up an old one, lol
>>550320280Cute
>>550320325he should be a solid head taller than her, Usagi is like 4'11 whilst Goku is 5'9.
>>550320528Probably.
>>550320280>>550320325Cute
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