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Repairing What's Broken edition

Total War 25th Anniversary Showcase (End Times / Medieval 3): https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war/blogs/91-total-war-25th-anniversary-showcase

Lords of the End Times - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPIpN9OKKR4
Patch 7.0 Details: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/84-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-7-0-introducing-the-free-content-and-the-masque
https://schedule.phase-connect.com/#/
Tides of Torment released: https://store.steampowered.com/dlc/1142710
Tides of Torment trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsEX51KP6U8

TWW3 - What's Next: Fixes, Tides of Torment and More: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/80
TWW3 - Hotfix 7.0.2: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/12603-total-war-warhammer-iii-hotfix-7-0-2?page=1
Total War Warhammer 40,000 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVgCDqLTaJk
Total War Warhammer 40,000 FAQ: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/4199910/view/655966683127611597

>Stuff
1d6chan: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics
Roll Charts: https://imgur.com/a/81snQma

>Older Titles
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-Official

Previous Thread: >>549874837
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Total GAY
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Neferata will be the next DLC.
Let us focus on Warhammer 3: Neferata.
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Be a good person.
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>>549886927
wtf bro
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>>549886930
Based, love vampires and cats me
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Nagash is more interesting to us than Space Marines.
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>>549886750
>fantasoi OP
it's afraid
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Has the MP community of the grimdark future found a solution to the green menace?
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>>549887060
Every other race in 40k > space marines
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I wish that Tides of Torment Legendary Lords had more pieces of wargear. It was common for Warhammer 1 lords to have 4 unique wargear, each.
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>>549887162
What will be the 40k equivalent of trees for mpfags?
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Why even call the 40k game total war when it functionally isn't total war?
That clearly isn't a total war game. It's a dawn of war inspired mobile game
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>>549887297
Dead trees
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I LOVE PLAY AS THE SPACE FAR-RIGHT THEY ARE SO COOL
NO, I AM NOT A NAZI, YOU NIGG... YOU BROWN FA... PERSON I RESPECT
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What interviews are people talking about?
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Prepare for another decade of Games Workshop's popculture reference slop franchise
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>>549887232
norsca has a shitload if you count the monster hunt equipment
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What's the 40k equivalent of the Skaven?
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>>549886750
fantachads will hold the line
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>>549886930
>Vampires were cursed to burn in the sun because they betrayed Nagash
>before that they could hang out in the sun and get a delicious bronze tan
The skelepope ruins everything doesn't he...
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>all these antis melting down
They really believed 40k was impossible huh?
It's literally fantasy all over again, once this game launches they'll disappear again.
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>>549887142
If I were afraid, why did I add the 40k trailer and FAQ? I was in a rush to get the OP up before the shitposters were able to further vandalize it so I just used an image I had on hand.
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Is Total War just a subsidiary of Games Workshop at this point?
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>>549887358
The nazi faction is always the most aesthetic
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>>549887502
Yes, Saga Old World and Age of Sigmar soon.
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>>549887337
>Why even call the 40k game total war when it functionally isn't total war?

Because they would lose their 'brand' power and earnings if they didn't call it Total War. Even though if they had just made it new IP like Halo Wars it would solve most of the criticism
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>>549887474
Of course it's possible it you make it look nothing like TW
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>>549887537
we could have gotten total war planetside....
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>>549887431
Tyranids
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Cant fucking wait.
Because DoW4 is gonna suck, just wait
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>>549887587
Nobody would buy that sadly
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>>549887585
>look nothing like TW
Yeah I've heard this before some 10 years ago. Get better material.
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>>549887431
The Imperium
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>>549887337
What is Total War then? Spearmani, Towers and Rams?
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>>549887431
Humanity
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age of sigmar on the 16th
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We are getting more Total War: Warhammer 40,000 news on the 16th December.
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Making myself comfortable since 40k is a ttw now.
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>>549887431
The imperium.
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>consoles
Uh oh
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>>549887502
Yes. They tried to avoid that through Hyenas before Sega forced them to turn into a tax write-off.
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>>549887587
>planetside
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Total War games by sales:
1. Three Kingdoms
2. Warhammer 3
3. Rome 2
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>>549887697
Holy fuck I am suddenly a fan of the omnissiah
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>>549886750
bless you, baker
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Fantafags and Histsissies better understand who runs this general now
Despite the game being at least a year or two away, 40k discussions WILL dominate this general forevermore
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>>549887763
Same
I was a wreck of nerves yesterday, thinking it could be another IP
Now I unclenched my butthole and nothing else matters
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No playable canon characters for the first 2 years, CA will then give in to popular demand.
Mark my words.
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>>549887474
"antis" isn't your word you dumb 40kuck normalfaggot cattle.
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I told you that historyfags would forget that they're getting a game the moment 40 got announced.
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>>549887826
What were they thinking with that tranny shooter how did SEGA even allow it to get off the drawing board let alone give it a hundred grand
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I can't wait to design my own custom Legendary Lord! If only Creative Assembly had tried this, sooner.
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>>549887740
smashing rectangles of dudes against each other
no rectangles, no total war
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>>549887854
yeah
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>>549887976
Calgar was in the trailer you retarded histkek sissy
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>>549888026
Daniel...
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>>549887749
>41th millennium finally ends
>the clock rings thirteen times at midnight
>the Emperor rises up from his throne and reveals he was the Horned Rat all along
>all Custodes are transformed into rats and attack the pilgrims
>The Imperial Palace is renamed New Skavenblight
Whatcha conna do, no-fur?
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>>549886750
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>>549887976
This guy might be an official Legendary Lord.
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>>549887985
How can they hope to compete? History is so fucking boring, Medieval 3 needs to be $20 or it will sell zero (0) copies
>>549888026
Only 40k CHADS get this experience
>>549888027
>recruit barbarian unit
>it's a vague blob
ROME 1 ISNT FUCKING TOTAL WAR REEEEEEE
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>>549888072
That was Magneus Calgar of Navyblue chapter. A common mistake, I know.
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>>549888027
What if rectangle consists of 2x2 Space Marinii?
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>>549888151
>40k Total
I kneel...
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>>549888151
it has all the memes
nice
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>>549888307
it's missing charlemagnes, but I guess that one went out of commision a while back.
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Which faction is the space pontus?
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>>549888205
It's chapter master Calgar so yeah pretty much.
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DLCs will probably add new chapter masters and wargear.
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>>549888426
The Tau
But they are not in yet
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>>549888205
"this guy" has like 4 different miniatures depicting him
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game
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Reminder that Calgar lost both arms and legs fighting the Tyranids and is more machine now than man.
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>>549887337
>real time battles
>campaign map
Sounds like Total War to me
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>>549887474
>make a racing game
>write Total War on the box

THEY SAID IT COULDNT BE DONE
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>Each Space Marine chapter will be its own faction.
lmao
40kikes are pathetic
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>>549888684
wasn't that Gabriel Angelos?
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Bitching about unit size, wait until you see my golden bananaboys
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Just watched the 40k trailer last night snd decided to try warhammer fantasy. 100s of dollars worth of dlc no thank you. I’ll just wait for 40k.
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>>549888684
Computer, Maschine, Panzermensch
Geh gradeaus, lass es raus!
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My friends, we aren't all clued in on Warhammer 40K lore. Give us some time to catch up.
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a 14,99 DLC for each of these!
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>>549888768
Anyone bitching about space marine unit size is a mong
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I hope they add the best Guard regiment
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>>549888869
40k is releasing with 4 factions the other 30 will be dlc. Just creamapi I guess
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>>549888735
what else would they be? a multicolor blob?
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>>549888869
I need to buy the dlc
I NEED! I NEED!
Get a grip, man
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>>549888958
You're getting cadians, cadians, and more cadians
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>>549887297
Since you can flatten entire battle map with destruction I can't think of anything of this sort
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>>549888869
Sales don't exist in this nigga's reality.
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>>549889017
Kislev.
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Ultramarines are the lamest part of 40k
atleast show something less bland
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>>549888693
Behold, Total War!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dawn_of_War_%E2%80%93_Dark_Crusade
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CA should include amibos like nintendo that allow you to unlock legendary lords if you use the right one
This'd fuck over the creampi fags
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Named characters KNEEL to Norn Emissary doomstack
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>>549889017
I wonder if regiments will be factions, or if others will be specialized units and all main guardsmen will use the FUCKING CADIAN PATTERN ARMOR AGAIN.
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>>549889115
Nope, didn't have a real campaign map or real battles
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>>549888958
for me it's the savlar chem dogs
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The 10 seconds of gameplay they showed looked like ass.
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NGL this looks kinda shit
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>>549889087
>MPfags adding artillery units to their army only to flatten terrain and not attack units, so that OTHER units can attack.
Would be hilarious and plauisble.
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>>549889115
Yeah, it's campaign map was clearly inspired. Just like bfme and empire at war
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>>549889224
They were showing the PS5 gameplay. Wait until PC gameplay is shown in Spring.
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>>549889114
Wanba lick those metal abs
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What if they add Chaos Space Marines as a free DLC race like they did with Bretonia?
what if they did that and then they never ever got an update just like bretonia
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>>549888991
It has been funny watching histoids and fantatrannies cope in all these ways. I'm excited to see fantafags create Volund tier rants about how 40k ruined total war
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>>549888958
I wish but CA is too lazy to take my money. I don't even expect Vostroyans and I'll be surprised if we get ASL.
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>>549889237
>fags are gonna post DoW4 screenshots pretending it's Total War for the next 2 years
I'm already tired
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Boy I sure love mobileslop.
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Are you thankful anon? Are you thankful that your favourite Strategy franchise AND your favourite setting are about to be sacrificed on the altar of dogshit console strategy gaming AT THE SAME TIME?
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>unable to talk about the game we have for like a week minimum
Thanks 40kfaggots for nuking this place
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>>549889279
>40k TW is so kino is literally evokes real tactics into MPfags
HOW can we compete fantasisters...
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My 100 Daemonettes would easily swarm and obliterate 5 Space Marines.
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>>549889295
>they're developing an RTS simultaneously for console and PC

Ah. That's a choice
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>>549889217
kino taste tho
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will there be a Terranis planet easter egg?
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>>549889302
my army will probably be like.. year 3 dlc into the game..
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>>549889457
I think anything that fleeces 40kbucks of their money is good, they can make a mythic mode for Med3 with the Carpathians full of big titty vampires using those shekels.
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>>549889165
>all main guardsmen will use the FUCKING CADIAN PATTERN ARMOR AGAIN.
As they should. It looks cool and is fitting for a standard space trooper outfit. The others are crazy enough to be separate factions
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German exclusice article by Gamestar with a lot of new information about the game structure

One of the intesting parts translate by DeepL:

The galaxy map is above everything else and serves as a kind of hub for what you actually want to do that evening, that day, or that weekend. The galaxy has been divided into numerous sectors and solar systems. The developers call all of this together Crusade Theater. It is the stage on which the great war of the universe is being fought.

From here, you can decide for yourself how you want to influence this war in favor of your faction. You currently have the choice between three different game modes, known as Flashpoints, which appear in the individual solar systems:

A major campaign: This is a classic Total War sandbox. Over many rounds, you build your empire and take on the competition. You gather resources, raise armies, and attack your enemies. Such a solar system can consist of up to ten planets.
A short campaign: There will also be shorter campaigns that you can complete in one evening, for example, because there are only a few planets here. These will probably be more story-driven scenarios.
Strike Battles: Finally, there was talk of short-term Strike Battles. Here, you jump right into the decisive battle that is currently raging and try to turn the tide with your units.
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>>549889515
I blame the ratfags.
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Lorefags, how dangerous is minor daemon to a space marine?
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>>549889457
the price of existence is imperfection
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>>549889641
>a mythic mode for Med3
oh my fucking god
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soon...
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>>549889402
yeah they really should have made something that doesnt look like Dawn of War. The insane thing is the UI in actual Dawn of War shows that they could have made something that looks like Total War?? Like why the FUCK does DoW look more like Total War than Total War now??
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>>549889457
Lmao consolefags will be second class players at best, especially since only a handful of them will buy it. They will receive every dlc and update months after PC, just like it happens in VT2 or Stellaris. CA just needs to pretend that they will be totally equal for a release to bait some of them into buying it.
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>>549889670
>Germ
Opinion discarded.
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atleast we'll have summer sale
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>>549889670
So are the outcomes of each of three types consistent within the overall crusade theater? So a win in the long campaign and later a win in the strike battle will both be positive for me in the overall game? Or are they separate entirely like campaign and skirmish?
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>>549889686
What do you mean? An African or European daemon?
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>>549889686
There are many examples of space marines being killed by nurglings, even one time choking to death in a room of nurglings farting until they ran out of air
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>>549889884
Imagine the smell.
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>>549889641
Why are histoids such poor turd worlders?
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>>549889237
Because it is shot. Did you not see the smothering of console logos? This shit will run like ass and be designed to be played by the most mind-drooling retards ever imagined. Its practically no longer a strategy game at all and probably is only a total war game in name.
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>>549889747
>not even in the starter faction
It's not fair necron bros...
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>>549889639
That sucks cuz I would lick Deldar abs too
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Will Tau be a TWW 40k 2 starting race or TWW 40k 3?
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>>549889815
>Lmao consolefags will be second class players at best, especially since only a handful of them will buy it.

So they're sacrificing the entire scale of the game and making a UI for televisions just to sell the game to like 2000 people on console. That just makes the entire thing even more retarded
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>>549889839
I challenge anyone to point to a single space marines chapter that isn't garbage.
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Great now we all have to deal with cringe forced memes like heresy
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>>549889791
I didn't understand the UI obsession until I realized that UI updates were the only meaningful changes to histoid games kek

WE DONT CARE NIGGA!
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>>549889945
You're a starter faction in DoW thoughie
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should of been set in the Dark age of technology...
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>>549890034
Dork angels
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>>549889237
Im honestly worried about the army limit, it seems there might be a 12 unit cap. The more i watch it the more it feels like a giant downgrade for consoles that might as well be a DoW game. Even the strategic map made me feel like it was 1planet=map and thats just DoW dark crusade.
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>>549889945
Oh Necron is a starter faction alright. Just not the TTW one.
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>>549890004
I can see Tau being a second game starting race for sure.
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>>549890004
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
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>>549887791
PC gaming is going to be dead in a few years because the average consumer will be priced out. Sad!
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>>549890126
20 units wouldn't fit for 40k scale battles anyway.
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>>549890115
Imagine the amount of novels GW will pull out of their ass.
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how do you deal with enemies that blob?
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>>549890126
Surely there will be a pc exclusive setting that bumps up the unit counts, r-right?
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>>549890180
Oh God that's literally a fart beam
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>>549890210
It's a bubble.
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>>549890069
>starts randomly screeching about "histoids" out of nowhere

Is this a bot or something?
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Dahvplays did a pretty solid analysis on it.
He suspects its 3K army style where you have your lord/liutenents leading groups of ~5 units or so given the layout of the UI (rows, lord/hero on the left position).
Airstrikes are likely army abilities.
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>>549890180
Ol' nurgle brapping his way from Tau space all the way to Ultramar.
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>>549890262
Magic or artillery
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>>549890034
The White Scars books I read were pretty good
They seem so chill, and happy while fighting.
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>Total War: Warhammer 40,000 wants to be "the seminal Warhammer 40K game," says its devs, who sell me in just 8 words: "You can customize the fingers on Space Marines!"

Yaaassss
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Do you niggers even like Total War? LMAO
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>>549890262
and i mean with their armies
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>>549890262
Artillery and spells
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>>549890174
unlikely they will make a trilogy, not enough races/factions
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>>549890012
Yup, people don’t understand what “making it with consoles in mind” means. Its not just a marketing gimmick, its a whole design decision because they have to work with VERY inferior hardware.
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WE WON
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>>549889839
If you can truly customize your space marines then logically they can't sell them to you in piecemeal like this. But will I be buying space wolf specific units that can only work in those colors? Will the game stop me from using ultramarines with grey knight units, for instance? I wonder how they'll do it. They must have created a subfaction system anyway since all the factions have them in some form or another.
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wh3 is such shit. Unit tiers and balancing is just complete shit.
>black orcs from t3 building
>Dark riders with shields also from t3 building
There are a million examples of this were units are just forgotten about entirely. Also AI just spamming annoying armies with zero tactical insight just throw a full stack of mangler squids at it. It just makes battles so boring as it's the same solution for every battle.
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>>549890126
TWfags since forever:
>nuTW are bad because you only have to fight 20v20 commandeered by a Lord, give us small skirmish armies not lead by anyone!
TWfags all of a sudden:
>small skirmish armies not lead by anyone gravely worry us, it might be a sign that it's not a real TW game anymore.
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>>549890339
>Airstrikes are likely army abilities.
If they can make it as satisfying as World in Conflict, I wouldn't mind.
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>>549889686
Depends
If the marine has a helmet he is toast.
If the marine has no helmet the daemon is against an uphill battle.
If the marine has no helmet, is wounded, the daemon stands no chance.
If the marine has no helmet, is wounded and has a name? The daemon, lesser or greater is a minor speed bump regardless of which god it spawned from or the battle conditions.
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Oh so FARTY GAY can get an army painter but Fantasy can't?
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>>549890004
Seeing as it's meant to span the entire galaxy, Tau shouldn't even be playable lmao.
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WHAT ARE THE UNIT SIZES ANON!
ARE SPESS MUHREENS IN SMALL SQUADS?
DO GUARDSMEN HAVE A UNIT COUNT IN THE HUNDREDS?
ARE ELDAR A FACTION OF HERO UNITS?!
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>>549890004
>>549890174
I think it's likely there will only be the one 40k game with big expansion packs. Recent events involving IE show that CA realize that locking that stuff in later games is lame, and it might not even work right on consoles.
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>>549890476
A good game like Rome 1 has both.
Warhammer only has big.
This game is seemingly going small only.
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>>549890463
Welcome to running a campaign my friend, lower the difficulty if you're struggling
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>noooo I wanted history games!!!!!
>don’t buy total war pharaoh or 3k dlc

You only have yourself to blame us warhammer chads buy all the games and dlc so were awarded with content.
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>>549890507
superior setting = superior features
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>>549888026
Your cheats bro?
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New Total War console based UI leak just dropped.
Available now for just $99 + paid online + tip!
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>>549890584
It's not hard it's just boring as fuck.
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>>549890210
Even favela dwellers have a gaming pc.
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>>549890216
I was expecting an upgrade to 40 units, not a downgrade to 12. The TW essence was armies fighting against each other, not just a couple of squads, this is closer to company of heroes than a TW game.
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>>549890507
shogunbros we are so back
DRIP TIME
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I can't wait for all the 40k faggots in this general to absolutely hate the gameplay because no matter what, 40k RTS games have always been shit, every single time without fail
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>>549890523
The fourth sphere expansion was specificallt created to explain Tau in every battle around the galaxy.
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>>549890631
But cheats are bad, anon.
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>>549890708
DoW 1 is great and you are a fag. But it won't play anything like that.
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>>549890507
Never doubt GW and CA's greed. They will sell shit piecemeal and I'm not even discounting microtransactions.
>no LL DLC
They can always lie too.
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>>549890708
true but let us enjoy this moment
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>>549890680
This is 40k, not Shogun or even Warhammer Fantasy. It's always been smaller scale.
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>>549890584
The game design encourages heavily to focus only on specific units and ignore 99% of your roaster.
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Main reason I dislike 40k is the same reason I dislike AoS.
The powerscaling is shit. Everyone is a space marine, these super duper hyper elite soldiers that can kill thousands. And theres a kajillion of them, and it really hurts that the bad guys are just the exact same thing but spikey. Its too much of them.
Also, they lose their ‘special’ value when theres actually hundreds of ‘chapters’ consisting of thousands of these guys. Don’t even get me started on fucking custodes; the ‘my guys are the super duper special guys of the super duper special guys’ literal kindergartner crap.
Like, the comparison of IG to empire is lost on me because you can believe a statetrooper kills a chaos warrior every so often, but it doesn't seem that way for a guardsman to CSM. Not to mention how utterly 2nd class all of the aliens are. At least in fantasy, yes, the empire is the ‘main’ faction, but not the only one.
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>>549890596
>3k
>history
lol
lmao
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>Click on generic guardsman lord general in some backwater planet
>WHO CALLS
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>*scrrech* *screech* where the space squires at
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>>549890771
Dawn of War whatever number you slap on is absolute garbage and you have bad taste. You like it because of the setting, don't try to convince anyone it's an actual good game
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>>549890572
If they showed 20 units, you'd right now be saying that it's just same old 20v20 "bad nuTW". So how about just wait for more footage before you doom.
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>>549890910
Squires are for Autarchs only.
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>Dawn of War
mediocre game at best, just because it wasnt complete shit like the rest of them doesnt make it a masterpiece.
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>>549890476
Are you retarded? There has never been a single TW game that lacked army battles, some had small skirmishes, some dont; but they ALL had army battles. Except this one, this one doesnt have clashing armies, at least they didnt show them.
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>>549890872
Trvke
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>>549890476
>people want the ability to have smaller battles
>ok we'll make it so you can ONLY do that then and go backwards in terms of unit size

Do you work for CA?
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>>549890910
>wardancer....BUT IN LE SPACE
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>>549890686
>We might actually get a return of Avatar Conquest thanks to 40k
SOMEONE TELL VOLOUND THAT NEWS MIGHT CAUSE HIM TO HAVE AN ANEURYSM
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>>549890872
Have you tried just turning your brain off?
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>>549890725
And seeing as this game is meant to span the entire galaxy, Tau should literally not even be playable. Tau don't even have proper FTL that doesn't take them ages to get anywhere. There are literally xeno empires without a model line that are vastly bigger than the Tau. Weebs need to fuck off honestly.
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>>549890916
Sorry you're either retarded or like 16.
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>>549890872
Pretty much this. It's strange how total war introduced me to fantasy and I preferred it over 40k almost instantly
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>>549890210
>the average consumer will be priced out.
The global south and the Stans are not the average consumer.
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uh oh
melty
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>>549888151
console war
apt
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>>549889457
Man, imagine if it was Ruse but 40k instead
That shit would actually be cool
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>>549891043
Do YOU work for CA since you already know that we'll ONLY get smaller battles and nothing else?
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>549890916
Almost made me engage with your rage bait.
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>>549891138
>10k for 256GB RAM
I'm going to struggle a bit
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Please No more kicking.
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Eldar but ultra misogynistic and patriarchical
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>>549891228
Hello yes I work for CA. We are implementing a system where all Tau battlesuits are piloted by sexy blue women and the bigger the battlesuit the bigger their tits.
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>>549891228
Yes.
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>>549891120
>There are literally xeno empires without a model line
So they don't matter
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I love the retarded seething CA created with this one
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>>549891420
Neither do the Tau.
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>>549891281
>patriarchical

m8 I hate to be the one to tell you but if non-tabletop players associate Eldar with anything, it's being run by women. Every Eldar campaign in pretty much any licensed game is a woman. Macha, Taldeer, Kayleth, the list goes on.
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>>549890858
Are you dumb? 40k is a setting that gets adapted to specific gameplay, not gameplay that gets ported to a videogame. The 40k lore can handle RPGs, FPS, even a fucking dating sim, why suddenly it cant handle a full TW game and the scope “must be reduced”. There are already dozens of games that copy the tabletop scale, this is a TW game, it should have the TW scale.
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>>549891442
Johnny...
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>>549890981
Bitch, guard vs nids will give whatever engine they use a run for their money. Not everything is spess muhreens. Orks are basically just greenskins in space. Chaos uses veritable tarpits of poorly armed cultists. Deamons are literally the same.
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>watch prealpha footage
>have a temper tantrum

How about you wait until the game is actually out or closer to release before shitting on it.
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>>549890309
Which will take world economy with it
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>>549891508
But that's Alpharius.
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>>549891120
of course the Tau will turn up in the game, dumbass
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>>549891475
Not piratechads
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>>549891475
Eldar girlbosses got me into tabletop models.
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>>549891535
>it's only pre-alpha
You are here.
>it's only in alpha
>it's only in beta
>it's only in early access
>it's only just been released
>it's only just got its first DLC
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>>549890872
the real problem with 40k is the THERE IS ONLY WAR narrative, unlike in fantasy where this is an actually united front against chaos/destructive made up of various order races, everyone in 40k has a hateboner for eachother and there can never be any lasting allies. seriously how the fuck is diplomacy gonna work in this game?
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>>549891272
I don't think there's anything that requires that much RAM.
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>>549889165
I suspect that the IG faction(s) will be Cadian or mostly Cadian and then the army painter will have a few of the more popular other regiments
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>>549891595
And as I said, by all rights they shouldn't.
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>>549891663
There wont be one.
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>>549891475
It's completely understandable. Orks and SM/CSM are male by default and Necron characters are all male too for some reason, so you gotta have a token woman and just imagine tje screeching if your Guard leader is a woman
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>>549891663
They said that there’s cross campaign collaboration. If you save a division of imperial guard they will show up snd assist you in a different campaign as the same faction.
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>>549891161
This is fucking insane lmao
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>history
>fantasy
>sci-fi
It's fucking over for /twg/
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>>549891535
Prealpha looks exactly like warwar3. I have no doubt that's what the 40sois will be playing.
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>>549891521
I was expecting at least, the same scope that some fucking mods for medieval 2 can give us. When you cant even match a 20 year old game then you are not even trying.
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>>549891161
Is this the arch discord?
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Sotek confirmed that he has already played Total War: Warhammer 40,000.
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>>549891494
>this is a TW game, it should have the TW scale.

Because its not designed for Total War players. Its designed for console players and 40k fans who have never played a TW game. Its amazing how TW fans have completely memoryholed CA trying to kill Total War with HYENAS. If that game had made it big, they would have already ditched Total War completely.
The modern Total War fanbase is kind of like a herd of cows, in the sense that you can just walk up and shoot one in the head and the rest will just stay there staring at you, not really comprehending what's happening at all.
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Bretonnia update when?
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>>549891961
what's Total War: Warhammer Forty?
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>>549889815
Game is designed for console first.
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>>549887431
The fanbase
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>>549891961
Total war therapy has mixed feelings on the game
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>>549890872
Allow me to continue:
Narratively, compare the imperium to the empire.
Both do the ‘inquisition’ and ‘root out heresy’ shit, but its secondary in the empire and primary in the imperium. Wholisitically, the empire is a good nation with rogue bad actors, and the imperium is a bad nation with rogue good actors. Why would I ever root for the imperium? Its sucks.
I know its ‘le grim dark’ but its more like ‘roll your eyes because its edgy we get it’.
Or even chaos.
Fantasy chaos is more natural, most chaos warriors are so because its the culture of the northern tribes since they exist in proximity the corrupted wastes. Special characters are usually good individuals turned evil. In 40k, space marines are bio-bred in the rapemines on hellmire 6 and emerge from the enslaved woman’s stomach like the xenomorph. Alright we get it theyre the bad guys.
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>>549891992
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>>549891804
bolter bitches fucking wheeeeeennn aaaaasrrrgghhh
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>>549891961
I thought he was too busy sucking cock.
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>>549892028
Whatever helps you cope friend.
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>40k is impossible to make in total war
>Ok, its happening but it will never happen before Medieval 3
>Ok its going to happen and it's coming out way before Medieval 3 but its going to suck!
YOU ARE HERE
>Ok, its pretty good but it won't sell!
>Yeah well, duh it sold 10 million copies, paypigs love slop, it will never win any awards
>GOTY awards are for shills anyways
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>>549891992
you're getting Bohemond as an FLC and that's it horsenigger
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>>549891992
Bretonnia... IN SPACE
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>>549891161
based Lloyd
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>>549891663
40k has a lot more diplomacy than most people think. Eldar and the Imperium frequently work together to the point that there's an Eldar diplomat stationed on Guilliman's flagship. Tau and the Imperium have had ceasefires in place to deal with encroaching Nids. 40k does have several more "No diplonacy allowed" factions, but even fringe ones likes Dark Eldar and Orks have cooperated with other factions in the past for adequate pay.
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>>549891494
GW owns the IP and if they say that CA must adopt tabletop scale as closely as possible then that's what they must do. This is not Total War: Warhammer 40k Epic Armageddon
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>>549892116
I think you are coping, my dude
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>>549891992
After vampires who are after end times
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>>549892045
Don't worry, with how things currently go GW might make The Imperium the good guys.
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>>549892198
Vampire DLC and rework is before Lords of the End Times.
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>>549892097
Playing Sisters and wiping out SM m*ids out of my galaxy
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Costin gaming isn’t playing it. They just lost one of the largest channels
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>>549891663
>how the fuck is diplomacy gonna work in this game?

No one liked that feature anyway best just to get rid of it
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>>549892045
You're supposed to root for the Tau
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>>549891992
Expedition 33 Won GOTY so soon™
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>>549890638
not enough button prompts
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>>549891992
I just want ways to find and earn crazy powerful magic items. It fits the theme, I think.
Go in quests/crusades, defeat the evil, get brand new armor/sword/trinket. Stuff that might empower a Paladin or the entire army.
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For what it is worth i enjoyed tides. The AI is a little bit more competent than it used to be.
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Magneus Craglar, King of the space marines.
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>>549892315
He will play the A.I. generated version.
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Drukhari when?
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>Hundreds of attempts at making a good 40kek game
>All of them failed
>TW:40k looks shit too
>HOW CAN YOU TELL IT'S SHIT? THIS IS ONLY PREALPHA FOOTAGE!
Warhammer is for everyone, BUT NO PATTERN RECOGNITION. FUCK OFF, CHUDS!
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>>549892320
This but unironically
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>>549892407
two weeks or so
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>>549892407
this is an improvement
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>>549892304
Do sisters and marines even fight each other? I can get ecclesiarchy fighting against guardsmen but marines?
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>>549892407
Never 40k fans ruin everything with their mid ahhhhh goofy ahhh franchise
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I wish there was a button that would make /v/tranny tourist animals drop dead.
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>>549892463
Plenty of great 40k games, you just suffer from terminal shit taste.
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>>549892506
Back in 1st edition the Sisters were sent to Space Marine fortresses to check their purity and purge them, just adjust that into modern lore.
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>>549889237
I know this is pre-alpha but:
>terminators with blue back vents

eeeeeeeeeeeh
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CA... you win. I'm reinstalling Battlefleet Gothic 2
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>>549892449
That's just Shadowheart in dark eldar armor.
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>>549892190
You are aware that Age of Empires 2 which is much more demanding from the player - input wise is already on consoles and the world didn't end right?
We're not currently talking in the afterlife about saving alternate realities from console menace my dude.
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>>549892506
Not really, no. You need strong narrative justification for Sisters vs SM conflict or you need to write Sisters or Marines as retards who scream "HERETIC" at everything
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>>549892124
CA hasn't made a single worthwhile product in almost a full decade
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Spaceking total war when?
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>>549892682
Love that game but EAC sucks.
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99% of 40k games are trash. What makes you think this time is different?
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>>549892407
That's the fun part. They won't. /coopg/ took a massive nosedive in quality that it never recovered from when a 40k game was announced.
You're witnessing the early days of the same problem festering like a sickly plague. Your only option is to bully them and never let them control the narrative.
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>>549892704
giwtwm
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>>549892604
>Plenty of great 40k games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXK3wYJXhNI&pp=ygUZcG9vIHBvbyBwbGF0dGVyIGJ1Z3MgbGlmZQ%3D%3D
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>>549892718
Age of Empires 2 have seperate build for console and PC.
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>>549892463
there are SOME good 40k games
most of them are shit or mid at best though
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>>549890910
>
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>>549892463
>Dawn of War/Winter Assault/Dark crusade failed
>Space Marine failed
>Space Marine 2 failed
>Dawn of War 2/Retribution failed

Are you fucking high?
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>>549892847
>99% of 40k games are trash

Fact check: false
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>>549892859
lol we’ll get ready because im never leaving this is our board now
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Someone is going to make a naughty insignia and CA will be forced to remove the army designer.
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>>549892718
Not him but porting an RTS onto a console and developing the RTS from the draft to be on consoles are two separate things and the latter had a long history of producing underwhelming games.
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>>549892889
Figured I'd be dealing with a tech illiterate 12 year old.
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>>549892912
>see elf tits
>scream

No wonder the Imperium is going down the tubes.
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>>549892506
There's a story about some space marine chapter getting wanked by the author as super cool and edgy and they murdered a bunch of battle sisters
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>>549892970
I know sister. We should talk about trans representation in the adeptus astartes
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>>549892847
Because space marine 2 was awesome.
>>549892770
Yeah I don't see it. Marines are mostly secular and by the book. Sororitas mostly just take care and guard relics. Its probably going to be like Bretonnia where you get massive penalties for waging war on each other. At least guardsmen have their politics so they have reasons to fight other imperium forces.
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>>549892894
>>549892983
Right, I forgot that just like 40k is impossible to be made as a TW game, it's also impossible to design two sets of control inputs for a game so that it could work on two separate platforms. Silly me.
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>>549892983
This is what i'm concerned by.
40K games have a tendency to be good or shit on a coin flip, but recently they've been pretty good.

But making a strategy game for a console is a surefire way to cause problems.
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>>549893070
40k are based and redpilled we love trump and hate woke
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Ah fuck sake, 40K Total War is real?
Well shit, sorry for ripping the piss out of all you believers for the last couple of weeks I guess.
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>>549890262
BRIGHT
IS
MIGHT
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>>549893125
> it's also impossible to design two sets of control inputs for a game so that it could work on two separate platforms.
CA is LAZY AS FUCK DUDE
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>>549892770
>you need to write Sisters or Marines as retards who scream "HERETIC" at everything
Come on, anon. We both know reliance on this writing is the main reason fantasy is better.
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>>549892948
He is correct though, there is plenty of 40k slop out there. It just dies very fast.
There was like a 40k card game announced on the last game awards I think.
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>>549893058
Imperium has cloning vats to compensate for homosexuality in the Astra Militarum.
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>>549893192
what is the lore reason for vampires to have elf ears?
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>>549893070
But Space Marines are already Trans.

TRANSHUMAN.
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>antis shitting and pissing themselves

I live for this
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>>549893125
Genuine question - are you just pretending to be stupid? You really cant see a difference between a PC game like Age of Empires getting a console port 23 years later and the games being designed around both platforms simultaneously?
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330th for abhuman wife.
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>>549887587
Why the fuck would you want that?
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>>549886750
>do a karl franz campaign
>secure my border with bretonia
>GIVE them their territor
>"trusted friends"
>have skaven show up on my north
>ask bretonia to deal with the norscans who are raiding me
>brets dont do shit for 100 turn
>had to deal with them myself + skaven + greenskins
>start an aislin campaign
>explore a bit end up in the old world
>NOW the brets have wiped out most of the northen chaos waste
fucking french
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>>549893058
Xenos bad or algo
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>40k games suck!
>40k has no good games!
>40k gets terrible games!
you bitches sound like my mother complaining that its disgusting to eat a bit of your poop when in fact its perfectly healthy and promotes healthy gut cultures
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>>549893354
>>549887981
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Stop trying to gatekeep us. Little did you know us 40k fans are the masters at gatekeeping you can’t win.
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>>549893435
Nurglechad... I kneel. ..
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>Most friends are hype for Total War 40k
>Only one is against it
>"40k doesn't fit columns of soldiers and large scale troop movements."
>the chat fills with artwork of swarms of guardsmen and space marines all huddled around flags

He's painfully secondary.
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>>549892859
trvke.
40k fans are like locus, ruining everything they touch.
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>>549893308
>has cloning vats to compensate for homosexuality
they are just like skaven fr fr
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I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE ANTI POSTING ON 40k! IT IS A REAL TOTAL WAR GAME! IT IS A REAL TOTOLA WAR GAME!
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>>549893323
Pointy ears are a trait of magical beings.
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>>549893550
Just like you.
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All my friends are hype for Life is Strange
That makes it a good game
The same applies to TW40k
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40k fags are the pajeets of tabletops and strategy games
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>>549892920
>Scat enjoyers enjoyed shit. Therefore it's not shit
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>>549893479
Lets share our fave 40k stories we're writing

In the cold vacuum of the Orion Arm, Cadet Elara was born again—not of flesh and blood, but of steel and starlight. She served aboard the
Aethelred, a cruiser of the Human Alliance, but her true battle was often a silent, internal war fought lightyears from any recognized front.
Elara had always known she was a woman, even when the sterile, brutalizing machinery of the Marine Corps told her otherwise. The Corps issued standardized physical augmentation protocols, "optimal physiology" designed for maximum combat efficiency, which for Elara, was a suit of armor that felt fundamentally alien.
The physical regimen was grueling, a daily reminder of the dissonance between her mind and her modified body. The heavy gravity simulators and combat drills pushed every Marine to their breaking point, but Elara endured an extra layer of psychological strain. She carefully managed a low-dose hormone treatment, a delicate balance acquired through underground medical channels, risking court-martial and dishonorable discharge if discovered.
The whispers in the barracks were the worst. She used a voice modulator to pitch her tone correctly, adhered strictly to the male uniform standards—which chafed in ways the material could not account for—and kept her private moments truly private. Her bunk, a small metal alcove, became her sanctuary, where she could finally disconnect her external armor and, for a few brief hours, exist as herself.
Her CO, Captain Eva Rostova, was an old-school pragmatist. Rostova didn't care about personal identities; she cared about kill counts and operational success. "You do your job, Marine, you breathe," Rostova would bark. "Anything else is irrelevant." This harsh neutrality was the only safety Elara knew.
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>>549893657
>another falseflag hate campaign against Indians
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>>549892407
When (you) leave.
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>>549893609
>tranny slop poster can't control himself
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>>549893402
I mean...yeah? That's how the AI works. If they're your neighbours and friendly, they won't do jackshit all game, except roll up to steal a settlement or two you need to complete your provinces. If they aren't your neighbours, they are free to do whatever the fuck they want. Classic anti-player bias in action.
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>>549890004
If I cant play the Tau and have armies of buffed up Gue'vesa fighting all my battles then I'm going to be sad.
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>>549893657
TOTAL WAR WAS PROMISED TO 40K FANS 40K YEARS AGO
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>>549892859
Same shit happened with /crpgg/.
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>>549893229
They wouldn't bother upgrading the engine for two future TWs, especially for Med3. Yet they did.
>>549893384
All I'm really doing is: not jumping to extreme conclusions pulled straight out of people's assholes like some people do. It's probably a new thing for you to see - a person who's not seething for the sake of seething.
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>>549893639
I was born in the hobby, molded by it. I didn't see the Primaris until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but a cashgrab.
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>>549893648
Does twarwar40k have cute lesbians? I thinkth?
Case closed.
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>>549893731
Thank you grok, very cool.
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>>549893323
Its cute.
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Anyone else here who likes 40K generally, but dislikes marines and finds most other factions way more interesting?
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Finally I can stop pretending to like warhammer fantasy
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>>549893821
This game is mine.
GW gave this game to me.
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>Wake up
>This massive meltdown from the non-believers
I knew it would be ugly, but holy shit. Imagine being this mas at a game announcement kek
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>>549890910
Fun facts about Howling Banshees!
#1: Howling Banshees Exarchs can casually duel Chapter Masters and win, and are capable of killing several Terminators by themselves. A squad of Banshees can and will butcher a squad of Marines with ease.
#2 Howling Banshees can run faster than many tanks. They also have full range of mobility unlike said tanks.
#3 Howling Banshee masks are capable of outright killing Humans before they even get into melee, inflicting heinous damage to nervous systems through sound aline.
#4 You will not escape
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>>549893550
He's painfully correct. 40k doesn't fit the playstyle of Total War. Which is why Fantasy was a no-brainer, while 40k from the looks of things completely changes the real time part of the game to something very much unlike Total War and very much like Dawn of War, a squad based small scale RTS.
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>>549893881
Lelith Hesperax and her succubus lover
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>"It looks like a mobile game."
>"It won't have any mods."
>"It's games as a service!"
>"Even if it is a good game it won't be a good TOTAL WAR game!"
(You) are here
>"Just because it's the best total war game in a new engine does not mean anything!"
>"Total war has always been bad anyway!"
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>>549893807
Unlikely to happen, they don't have models.
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>>549893550
>the chat fills with artwork of swarms of guardsmen and space marines all huddled around flags

Are you sure your friends didn't see the AI images rather than the actual gameplay footage?
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Is the meltdown in the thread with us?
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>>549893970
This mas?
No mas.
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>>549893982
In my ADB books marines killed banshees tho so you're wrong
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>>549894032
Why is Pepe forcing the elephant to inhale his soldering fumes?
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>>549893926
I don't dislike marines, but I don't find them all that interesting honestly.
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>>549894084
Typo, like I said I just woke up.
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>>549893926
Yeah
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>>549893926
I'm still convinced that this is how the silent majority of 40K think, but get drowned out by space marine fans.
Beholders Legion better be in on day 1 or I riot.
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>>549894049
No the images of swarms of guardsmen and marines around flags is the official GW art.
Which is what it should be like in-lore. But he seems to think 40k IS like the tabletop. Which it isn't.
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>>549894049
The top one looks cool. Real image?
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>>549893550
He is right, tertiary
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>>549894076
Hello L*ddit!
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>>549894123
In the Uriel Ventris books an unnamed Banshee Exarch decapitated the Chapter Master of the Mortifactors and took his head as a trophy.
Even Marneus Calgar is at risk of getting his shit pushed in by an Exarch with an Executioner on tabletop.
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>>549894126
The elephant is training to play Total War.
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>>549894218
The end of year player stats CA does for 40k will tell all
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Please everyone calm down. I have prepared a soothing images of giant blue titties to soothe your rattled nerves.
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>>549894126
it's just how it is man.
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>>549893846
>extreme conclusions pulled straight out of people's assholes

The conclusions are based on 20 years of seeing PC games get redesigned around consoles. I dont mean any offense by this, but are you literally just 15 years old or something?
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40k Aeldari wombs filled...
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>40k shiteating has made /twg/ duplicate so much that it knocked /civ4xg/ off the board
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why do people hate primary marines
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>>549893926
I'm in a more cursed situation.

I like Ultramarines, but I have liked them since 3rd edition, further during 4th edition and the whole Battle for Macragge.

I've had to stomach GW making the Ultramarines the posterboys, shoehorning them into everything, and disregaring their original vibe to being "da best of da bestest."

Their recent ultramarine 'protest' joke GW did on their community site actually made me cringe for being this faction, and that feeling sucks.
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>>549894434
Based
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So who will be the day one DLC for TW40k?
desu? I think it might be Chaos Demons. Would be easy since they already have most of the models they need
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>>549894283
>In the Uriel Ventris books
McNeillsloppers...
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>>549894383
The Greater Good demands that I look at blueberry tits.
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Elf clowns > custodes
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>>549894434
well maybe they should have tried copying Humankind's homework, have they considered that?
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>>549893402
The Ai will never help you with anything.
Also whenever a crisis spawns in late game all the spawned stacks will go straight towards you, even if you are on the other side of the fucking planet and other factions are eating up land of the faction that spawned the crisis.
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>They'll dumb down the game for consoles
Nigga, dumb down what? Navigating menus while on the map?
Giving orders to move forward and a few dozen formations (if even).
They just need to map some buttons and be done with it.
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>>549894401
if you have foreseen failure in the skies why are you here? If CA only produce DOGSHIT WHY ARE YOU HERE?!
IS THAT YOU VOLOND YOU CRIPPLED FUCK?
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>>549894490
they're called primary marines because their fans are in primary school
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>>549894557
CLOWN
ELF
PUSSY
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>>549893792
i was hoping for some cooperation from my neighbors norsca was showing up on their border as well and all they did was pussyfoot around albion for 50 fucking turns the ai sucks i wanna kill chaos with of other factions not baby sit them =/
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One hour left, Men of the West
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HOW DARE YOU LIKE SOMETHING. YOU MUST TAKE MY OPINION AS GOSPEL
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I like 40k but 40kucks are so fucking insufferable holy shit. This is TOTAL WAR GENERAL. We are more than just a vehicle for you to jerk eachother off about Le Hobby™
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>>549890004
So are the Tau trans then? It feels like its heavily implied
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>>549894629
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>>549894557
that's not even a contest
clussy is funny, only Henry Cavill likes the banana boys
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Total war Lord of the Rings when?
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Angry joe cried watching the trailer it’s up on YouTube
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>>549894638
AND I WILL ANSWER.
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>>549894687
The only canon trans characters in 40k so far are necrons
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>>549894629
>>549894742
>The Chaplain warmed me about women like you!
>I WAS HOPING HE WAS RIGHT
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>>549894615
Those who are having fun are 40k tourists that have never played a total war game before.
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>>549894638
Until what?
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>>549886750
Reminder that 40k will grow in popularity until shitflix/disney etch gets their claws in it and then it will be bastardized like Star Trek. It is now inevitable.
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>>549894791
good for him.
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>>549894383
I would be more interested in 40k total war if it had interesting factions like Tau.
But it doesn't, so its going to be shit.
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>>549894607
People forget that they ported the highly complex historical games to fucking phones.
They need to change nothing beyond button mapping for consoles and maybe reducing the unit count and graphics.
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>>549894687
>see thing
>"tranny"

Get a grip m8.
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>>549894532
even when I was a kid I recognized mcneil made complete slop
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>>549894619
>um you cant say mean things about CA that's very toxic!

Are you doing a 'bit' where you pretend we're on the total war subreddit or something?
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>>549894789
Literally now
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>>549894401
Different games redesign different elements for consoles. Happens all the time, some devs do it competently, some don't. Lately we've seen a shift for console companies to target PC market more and quicker - the pendulum is going back our way.
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>>549894646
Would you like me to go over the possible Eldar roster instead?
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>>549894742
>2016
2016 was 32 years ago...
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>>549892147
>you're getting Bohemond as an FLC and that's it horsenigger
I'd be happy with Bohemond as a LL tbhwy. I'd want him to start far away from Bretonnia though.

>>549892352
>I just want ways to find and earn crazy powerful magic items. It fits the theme, I think.
Could definately be cool, might be even more fitting for Carcassonne specifically.

>Go in quests/crusades, defeat the evil,
I really want errantry armies. I don't care if they're only low-tier units, even if their only low-tier peasant units (mobs, men-at-arms, bowmen, maybe some battle pilgrims and grail reliquaes too)

>Stuff that might empower a Paladin or the entire army.
Related to this, I think something like the Dark Elves' names of power could be fun for making themed armies for Bretonnia.
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Sugmar dick
hah gottem
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In my C.S Goto books it was confirmed that an Eldar tank is destroyed by a hit from a detached jump pack
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>>549894049
Jesus christ i just noticed, there are only 2 speed options and thats a fucking capture the flag map. This is 100% monkey paw scenario.
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>>549894646
Yeah, this is a vehicle for me to post about how much I love my waifu, Dreadfu.
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>>549894789
After Total War: Star Wars, Total War: Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Total War: Star Wars: The Rebellion, Total War: Marvel, Total War: Operation Iraqi Freedom, Total War: Fallout, and Total War: Palworld! Didn't you hear? You only need an RTS battle and a turn based campaign for Total War! There's not been a precedent for a certain kind of combat, you're delusional if you think so.
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>>549894815
Only the rape demons, actually. The Necron thing was something throwaway that can easily be forgotten.
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>>549893926
Absolutely, especially fucking Ultramarines (basic bitch do-gooders), Blood Angels (what if vampire but armoured gorilla?), Space Wolves (what if hammed up stereotypical viking tropes but also armoured wolf-gorilla) and fucking Imperial Fists (we build walls and are autistic armoured gorillas).
Custodes can also fuck right off, thats just a faction made to appease people who always used to be "my space marines are better than your space marines". Should never have been made into a faction, they were far more interesting when they were relegated to literature and lore only.
Other than, I imagine, a few other Space Marine chapters, I find the rest of the lore a lot more agreeable, Orks and IG are my kinda guys. Crush them with endless numbers and buckets of dice, hell yeah.
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>>549894912
You are just making the conversation boring as fuck. You have sensed upon the winds that doom approaches and then go to the "Discuss Total War games" room to say that Total war games are all shit.
What's the point?
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>>549894853
As one of those who will be having fun, I played Empire total war.

While Sharpe was on a second monitor.
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Crikey, they really did takeover this general.
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>burna boyz are dlc
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>Stellaris is on console
>CK3 on console
>Anno 117 on console
>AoE4 on console
Nothing changed for those games.
Hell I used to play red alert on console, unless they say they want the extreme casual gamers this changes absolute nothing
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>>549894895
cute izutsumi
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I'll just come back in a week or two when the Discord raid ends
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>>549894845
Eldar pussy is for Primarchs only.
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>>549895087
That's probably just devs doing pvp match for the trailer lol.
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>>549894876
I actively pray Amazon and the like completely rape the setting. I want to see 40kniggers get fully colonized by normies.
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>>549891663
>seriously how the fuck is diplomacy gonna work in this game?
>the kino outcome
Everyone except for sworn enemies is in a cold war state where the AI will build up military along the borders, perform minor raiding if lands are undefended, and try to kill any trespassers (this doesn't escalate war status). If the AI and a faction they are in cold war with are invading the same territory of another faction then they will also try and kill them too (also doesn't escalate war status). If an opportunity presents itself the AI will escalate into a hot war state with the intention of taking territory and killing the enemy. If the AI is facing a big threat they can become allies of convenience with other people opposed to the threat, which means they stop raiding them, reduce military buildup on their borders, and stop trying to kill their armies in neutral/hostile territory. After the threat is gone everyone returns to a cold war state. Sworn enemies are in a permanent hot war state.
>the expected outcome
spehss mareenz have +15 diplomacy with imperial faction, -40 with eldar, -80 with orkz, -100 with tyranids and chaos, start with a NAP with the IG
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Find me a single thing from 40K that is superior to its WHF equivalent.
You can't.
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>>549895087
Oh no! That totally not placeholder UI does not have all the time control buttons!
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>>549895147
Most based post itt
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>>549894638
Damn, I'm more hyped about a mod than I am hyped about whatever shit was announced at tgs.
What faction will you all play as?
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>>549895294
clown elves
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>>549895206
40kids will buy any DLC if there's a space marine unit in it so CA can sell Primaris Lieutenant + Burna Boyz pack for £10
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>>549895294
Tyranids are better than Skaven
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>>549895210
The only RTS game to ever get dumbed down because of consoles was Supcom2.
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>>549895294
Exodites > Wood Elves.
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>>549894638
w-what happens in an hour
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>>549895294
more funpowder weapons.
Funpowder is the reason I play total war games. Without funpowder there is no point playing total war.,
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>>549895352
R O H A N
O
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>>549895294
Sisters of Battle.
Sisters of Sigmar are worse in every way.
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>>549895139
You sound like you would appreciate some good Steel Legion miniatures.
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>>549894954
Yes.
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>>549894638
Do I just need Attila for this?
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>>549895294
Tau are cooler than Cathay.
40k darkie elves have sexier snake people working for them.
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>>549895404
>The only RTS game to ever get dumbed down because of consoles was Supcom2.
I will never forgive them for what they did.
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>>549895294
Imperial Knights > bathwater sippers
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>>549894383
You just KNOW theres going to be a Loverslab mod for Tau that makes them all look like wargameexclusive designed them.
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>>549895295
>> its an alpha they will change it for the beta

You are here

>> its a beta, they will change it for release
>> its 1.0 they will release DLC for it
>> its just the first game in the franchise
People like you shouldnt be allowed to have opinions
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What does this pose even mean. Why would you just point somewhere in the middle of a fight?
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>>549895569
Only Attila required no dlc
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Why is my entire guard army black women?
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>>549895609
it's the other way around
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>>549895614
Maybe I'll finally install one of those mods then.
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>>549894032
>Modern strategy game with modern graphics and hefty system requirements is announced
>"IT LOOKS LIKE A MOBILE GAME!"
why does this happen every time?
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>>549895649
ai sloppa defect pls ignore
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>>549895141
Im not saying that Total War games are all shit?? Im specifically saying it doesn't really look like Total War, that's kind of the problem
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>>549894687
The Tau are gooks. Their females are even flat as boards.
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>>549895352
Mordor
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>>549895649
Marine helmets usually have targeting systems in them, so whatever he's looking at and pointing at his surrounding bros saying:
"I'm going to laser pointer THAT motherfucker in particular so stand back."

Also rule of cool.
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>>549895693
It's how you get rid of undesirables
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>>549895606
There was no saving that game, they went full retarded and a PC only release would be for casuals as well.
It was from a period where RTS devs were making casualization left and right and failing hard, we're way past it now.
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>>549895649
he aura farm fr fr.
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>>549894742
>>549894629
>>549894776
Welcome to the next 10 years of /twg/ content anons.
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>>549895614
That'll be on steam workshop bro
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The galaxy has been divided into numerous sectors and solar systems. The developers call all of this together Crusade Theater. It is the stage on which the great war of the universe is being fought.

From here, you can decide for yourself how you want to influence this war in favor of your faction. You currently have the choice between three different game modes, known as Flashpoints, which appear in the individual solar systems:

A major campaign: This is a classic Total War sandbox. Over many rounds, you build your empire and take on the competition. You gather resources, raise armies, and attack your enemies. Such a solar system can consist of up to ten planets. A short campaign: There will also be shorter campaigns that you can complete in one evening, for example, because there are only a few planets here. These will probably be more story-driven scenarios. Strike Battles: Finally, there was talk of short-term Strike Battles. Here, you jump right into the decisive battle that is currently raging and try to turn the tide with your units.
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>>549892920
I would say you are very new to the internet and PLEASE stop replying to bait
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These antis are getting desperate...
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>>549895832
So no real change from what it is now.
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>>549893479
>Little did you know us 40k fans are the masters at gatekeeping
warhammer is for everyone thoughbeit chuddy
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>CA in charge of not fucking up
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After spending the last 2 hours combing through the steam forums looking at the accounts for everuone thats actually looking forward to this game ive realized that none of them even like total war games. They don’t even own any. But don’t worry they have 500 hours of space marine 2
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>>549895693
I mean you joke but...
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>>549895865
Hopefully they give us more detail on this on the 16th
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>>549895352
There isn’t a Dorwinion faction? If not I’ll play Lothlorien I guess, though I’m sure a submod will add Dol Amroth soon
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>>549895832
in the grim dark future, there are only SQVIRES
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>>549895759
It looks like total war to me. What do you think "Total War" looks like?
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>>549895854
You think?
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>>549895914
No no no, no niggers, no trannies, no faggots, otherwise it's cool
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>>549895162
It's the same coomertards with a different hat.
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>>549895708
Volound went through all stages of denial.
>is this photoshop?
>is this console?
>is this mobile?
>is this arcade game?
>is this AI?
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>>549895932
But he did nothing wrong, thoughver.
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>>549895384
>Tyranids are better than Skaven
(X) Doubt
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>>549896032
Slaanesh was in it from the start tho
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>>549895962
That's a pretty fucking pathetic use of your limited time on this Earth that you could have at least used playing video games.
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>>549896032
We already know Warhammer is for everyone, black guardswoman.
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>>549896032
every piece of 40k content released within the last 8 years or so has had a non-white woman in it
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can we get a Halo device as a unique item to equip our lords with pretty please?
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>>549895294
No ratoids.
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>>549895970
You have never read an IG book you street-shitter. Canonical IG comes from every fucking dirtshit world and you should know that if you have EVER played. yeah you trigged me nice job if you were a troll
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>>549896013
The SFW version for sure but I think even tiddies are allowed
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>>549896106
fascist prick
>>>549896196
>EVER
LMAO
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I want to point out that CA preemptively said that they will develop PC first, when the first talked about the new engine working on console. Idk if it was just to cover their ass and they're lying though.
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40k has no vampfus so its inferior
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>>549894638
>cheats
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>>549896152
No and also you're gay.
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>>549896152
The FFG books was golden for weird stuff like that, I love it.
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>>549894283
>exarch
Ah, moving the goal post already.
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>>549896196
So why a negress when it could have been a white man?
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>>549896302
Best case scenario it means they're willing to cancel console versions if they can't get them into an acceptable state without ruining the game
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>>549896349
some pol shit i literally dont care about, it is accurate to canon, sorry faggot cry elsewhere
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>Total Warhammer 40k will be built for console.
I can't wait to play it on my steam deck boys! :D :D I will be sure to play lots of multiplayer! Haha, I hope we are team mates! WOO.
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>>549896304
It has blonde vampire husbandos if that's any consolation.
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>>549896304
It has bara vampires (blood angels) though
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>>549896196
I probably know more than you, and while you're correct, surely not every single world has a mix of races.

Are you telling me that in an empire of 1,000,000 worlds, not one is ethnically homogeneous? Like a world where hive cities are all underground so everyone's pale, or a world where it's all desert so everyone's black?

Every world is all Cadians all the time and every commander is an ethnic woman?

There's a difference between Lore and GW ticking boxes, brother.
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>>549896196
Cadians are described quite thoroughly in several books and the army books, and they aren't black. Sorry, tertiary, no dice.
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>>549896265
I will put you in a gamer camp so you can concentrate on playing video games, subhuman.
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>>549895549
Very well.
Let's start with what's confirmed; Autarchs, Farseers, Guardians, Banshees, and Falcons.
Autarchs are the designated military leaders or Craftworlds, having spent extensive time as an Aspect Warrior in various Shrines to learn a wide array of fighting styles and tactics. Easy generic Leader model, with numerous options for weapons and wargear. Close approximation to High Elf Princes or Druchii Dreadlords.
Farseers are the civil leaders for Eldar, using psychic precognition to try and navigate potential fates for the Craftworld. They are secondary in the military for the most part, but will participate in combat as needed. Exceptional casters, with a huge range of psychic powers ranging from significant buffs to veritable nukes.
Guardians are militia forces mustered from Craftworld civilians and volunteers, usually acting as support for Aspect Warriors on the battlefield. They come in two variants; long-ranged Defenders who have a heavy weapon platform, and close-ranged Storm Guardians who are ex-Aspect Warriors often carrying weaponry similar to Aspect Warriors such as Meltas, Flamers, and Power Swords. They also have a shield support platform to assist in their role as close range support.
Howling Banshees are, arguably, the most recognizable Aspect Warriors that Eldar field. They're fast even for Eldar, and are particularly deadly in melee. They are perhaps the most dangerous melee unit in the setting when it comes to killing Marines and other Heavy Infantry, and can fight on nearly even ground even against Terminator squads.
Falcons are the basic grav-tank pattern used by Craftworlds. They balance weaponry and transport functions, able to drop from orbit to unload a squad of Aspect Warriors even while opening fire itself. One of the fastest tanks in the franchise, it lacks heavy armor but more than makes up for it with speed and maneuverability.
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>>549896576
All die to basic lasguns btw.
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>>549896473
Wait that was the wrong image sorry.
ELDAR SHIT CRYSTALS.
Its canon. you cannot refute it. GW has never refuted it. Anal with an Eldar would be like shagging sandpaper.

I just wanted to get this out there before the Eldar thirst spam gets too much.
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>>549896435
Yeah but I also want to point out that they may have seen the backlash of dumbing down TW for consoles would bring so said that just to take the heat off.
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>>549896623
Everything dies to basic lasguns.
You can kill an entire legion of space marines if you throw enough dudes with lasguns at them.
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>>549896007
Giant armies fighting each other is what I normally associate with Total War. IDK why this is hard to understand.
Its like if they announced TW WW2 and then the screenshots come out and its just looks like Company of Heroes, even down to 'capture points'. You think nobody would say anything?
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>>549896304
Best I can do is another kind of parasite
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>>549896304
But it has steroid-abusing eunuchs in blue teletubby armor.
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Let's take a step down and see what a classic campaign in the 40k universe might look like. As mentioned, a single campaign represents an entire solar system with several planets.

The exact appearance of the solar system and which planets are present there depends on various factors. There are certain solar systems, each of which has been hand-crafted and is intended to represent a campaign scenario pre-planned by the developers. This is probably most comparable to a classic Total War campaign, where all factions start at their designated locations.

To ensure there is enough variety, the game repeatedly throws different planet types together. So you might find yourself on a densely populated ice planet or a mining planet in the jungle.

The individual planets in Warhammer 40,000 are comparable to the different continents from the earlier Total Wars – the space between them, on the other hand, is a connecting mass, like the sea used to be. A continent on one of these planets, on the other hand, functions similarly to a province in the past. The enormous scale of Warhammer 40,000 had to lead to an extreme rethinking here.

On the planet itself, however, you move your armies around in a fairly traditional manner, and it all feels like a genuine Total War game – just on a much larger scale. Although not always and everywhere.

Instead of classic cities, you build outposts or bases for your army. Anything else would have been inconceivable, right? Can you imagine space marines peacefully settling down or 40k orcs farming? Exactly. Neither could the developers.Therefore, cities or even the enormous hive cities are more comparable to independent regions. Your armies are then stationed within or next to this region, and here you have the classic city administration, with new buildings and the option to recruit units.
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>>549896623
>>549896712
As that one ancient comic said:

That's a whole lot of diddely.
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Dark Angels better come soon
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>>549896768
that looks meh compared to this glorious piece
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>>549896492
>>549896510
Yeah I am not a Cadian Stan since i am too old for that but yes you are both correct. My points still stand regardless of this weird pol race bating that you are doing. Yes Cadians have a distinct look. The IG is what I want it to be. I make my own faction.
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now i dont understand half the references in this thread
thanks 40k sissies
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One thing people aren't talking about is that jets are probably confirmed, they appear in the art and the trailer.
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>>549896838
>the casuals gamemode
the writing is on the walls bros
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>>549896304
Also its elves are kinda shit.
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>>549895708
Because we're jaded bastards who hate everything new (until it becomes popular and thus "safe" enough for us to try). People hated TW Warhammer before it came out, now its the #1 staple.
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I'm not even going to buy 40k until there are mods to remove every brown or black human from the game entirely. Not even color options in the army painter.
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>>549896576
Are Eldar trans?
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>>549896965
Revisionism, nobody hated TWW1.
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https://www.gamesradar.com/games/total-war/total-war-warhammer-40-000-wants-to-be-the-seminal-warhammer-40k-game-says-its-devs-who-sell-me-in-just-8-words-you-can-customize-the-fingers-on-space-marines/

Crusade theaters = continents/sectors?
>Hall points to "crusade theaters,".
>Players will be briefed on what's going on, which other forces are involved and why, and what's "in store" for wading into that crusade.
>"It's within the context of that crusade theater – who's winning, who's not – that will slowly reveal what the narrative of that is,"
>"We have got a more tightly focused onboarding narrative, much like we did with Warhammer 3, that we're currently developing. That's actually going to feed into the canon of 40K, so we've got something for everyone."

Destructible environments (to some extent)
>Warcore [engine] allows for "even more diverse" factions than past offerings, explains Mann, while Hall paints a picture of the engine's Havokdestruction physics:
>imagine destroying a building by calling in Space Marines via drop pod, then using the strewn debris as cover during a firefight.

Weapons/looks customizable
>players can choose the weapons of squad members, but that's only one extension
>"We didn't quite get to [customization] with Total War: Warhammer. We went all-out on this one. It really is next-level, probably more than any game for Warhammer we've seen," says Hall
>Players can start with their chapter – and obviously all factions are going to have that to an extent – but I think we're going to see some really great-looking Space Marine chapters."

Hive cities = 40k sieges
>The more Mann and Hall talk [...] From units to sprawling hive cities which will be "highly defended [and] difficult to take"

Personally I couldnt be less enthusiastic about Andy Halls story slop after what we've been treated to with the Fantasy games.
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MultiplayerSCHOLARS, how are we feeling about the console thing? I am do not see how the lightning fast thinking and reflexes that characterize our superior and GODLIKE mode will be compatible with a controller. It's not like the singleplayerDUNCES' minigame where they can just pause.
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>>549897004
Mods wont be allowed due to crossplay. TW:40k is an always online game.
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>>549896756
define giant. How many unit models need to be in a battle before it becomes "Total War."
Also every total war game has had capture points?
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>>549897036
>Andy Halls
this guy is a hack and fraud. Years of teasing Bretonnia updates, yet I never seen a single one.
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>>549897036
Post an archived link since there's a paywall
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>>549897036
>imagine destroying a building by calling in Space Marines via drop pod, then using the strewn debris as cover during a firefight.
And they say this is dumbed down lol
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>buy Kislev DLC thinking Hags have to be an army block hero, since kislev doesn't have one
>they're not
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>>549896879
wrong game, buddy
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Is making fun of the "Wh40K won't ever happen fags" allowed now?
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>>549895708
>why does this happen every time?

Because these clasically PC games are now getting console releases that necessitate it looking totally different. People often describe this as 'mobile game'.
The reality is that its almost impossible to make a UI that works for both sitting at a screen 2 feet away and also for a television that you sit far away from.
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>>549897283
You bought a whole dlc on that notion alone and didn't check first?
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>>549896576
On to potential Legendary Lords;
Eldrad Ulthran is easily the most recognizable Eldar character, Eldrad is one of the greatest Farseers to ever live. Over 10,000 years old, the man's older than the Imperium and was active during the Horus Heresy. Given that he's from Ulthwe, the Craftworld being shown off in the promo art, it's almost guaranteed Eldrad is coming as the main Eldar representative.
Asurmen, the Hand of Asuryan, was the first Phoenix Lord to ever exist. Having survived the Fall of the Eldar, the man who became Asurmen took it upon himself to establish the Path of the Warrior, taking in disciples who would go on to become the Phoenix Lords in turn. Essentially immortal, each Phoenix Lord is capable of being resurrected through the sacrifice of an Exarch of their Aspect Shrine after death, turning each one into a combination of vast experience and combat prowess. Given the dichotomy of Autarchs and Farseers, Asurmen fits as a second LL beside Eldrad. Despite this, Phoenix Lords are not tied to any individual Craftworld, and will often travel between campaigns assisting different Craftworlds across the galaxy over time.
>>549896623
Everything does, anon.
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>>549897036
>players can choose the weapons of squad members, but that's only one extension
YEEEEEEESSSS
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>>549897247
Sounds like DoW
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Eurobros I'm fucking dying at work today, fuck those TGAwards and fuck CA for delaying this trailer until them
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>>549897247
>believing any pre-release horseshit from CA
You 40keks are going to get Rome 2'd so fucking hard
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>>549897113
Very true King, perhaps in a match for every PC player there are two console players on the other team! ha, just to make it a fair fight.
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when will be /twg/ usable again?
honestly if 40K turns out to be mobile trash for consoles I vote we ban them from this general they can make their own
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>>549897145
At least 100 men per unit, I dont make the rules I'm afraid
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>>549897350
yes
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>>549897459
Back to work, wagie.
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>>549897421
DoW doesn't even have that. And never did.
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>>549897459
You really didn't miss out on much. Imagine the original WH1 trailer minus the funny wizard but with more guns instead.
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>>549897372
With how gimped psychic phase in 10th ed, I wonder how they will handle it in the game.
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>>549896898
>that looks meh compared to this glorious piece
Correct.
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>>549897486
I'll believe you then? Lmao
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>>549897579
2 did, zoom zoom.
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>>549897343
This is wrong, all console ports of strategy games have their own UI separate from the PC version.
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>>549897036
>players can choose the weapons of squad members, but that's only one extension
HOLY SHIT THE RETURN OF TACTICAL SQUAD ACTUALLY CONFIRMED?! IS THIS IS THE END OF INTERCESSORMAANII?
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>>549897506
In an honest-to-God, not being a hater way, why do 40K games a whole not have a dedicated general ala the star wars, dragon ball and harry potter generals?
I'm dead serious.
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>>549896898
Why this evokes patriotism to a shithole kingdom in WHF?
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>>549897579
It has destructable environments that grant cover in exactly that manner
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>>549897652
Believe me for what? I'm telling you to heavily temper your expectations.
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AELDARIBROS IT'S OUR TIME TO SHINE

>three shitdom engine

does that mean we get duels betweem lords finally?
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Lost and Damned when?
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>Eldarsisies general
A fate worse than death.
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w-we are not going to be getting

>dude TW:40K is LITERALLY just like company of heroes total war is over

posts until spring when they go over the campaign and battle gameplay in-depth r-right?
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>>549897421
You never touched that franchise it seems.
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>>549897316
Yes
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>>549897720
Because they are very different. Harry Potter has like one game
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>>549897506
Realisitcally probably january, there's apparently more info coming the 16th.
But the game itself is at least a couple years away, so interest will die down somewhat over christmas
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>>549897770
onions marines are way worse
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>>549896898
>holy fuck it's the green knight
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>>549897316
Yes
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>>549897554
Rome Total War had Hastati with 40 models per unit. I guess Rome Total War was not a Total War game...
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>>549897912
post the other half of that drawing
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>>549897486
>You 40keks are going to get Rome 2'd so fucking hard

The people you're trying to warn literally weren't here for Rome 2 launch. This general got taken over by fantasy players who somehow simultaneously hold the position of glazing CA, while refusing to play like 12/15 Total War games CA has made.
If you say anything negative based on your experience of CA releases and actually playing the games, then they jump on you like a pack of redditors.
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>Such weak units can actively take cover in the new Total War and even use the remains of a skyscraper or a crater bombed into the ground. This doesn't turn Total War into Company of Heroes, but it does make cover more important. Especially since the cover mechanic is not meant to be a simple buff.

>According to the developers, every projectile that leaves the barrel of a gun in battle is calculated realistically, and if it doesn't penetrate an obstacle, it doesn't cause any damage. How well the cover protects therefore depends very much on how well the soldiers behind it can actually fit and also on the angle at which the hail of bullets rains down on them.

>To get into a better firing position, it can also be worthwhile to reshape the map with grenades and rockets. After all, a house wall offers no protection if said house wall no longer exists. New running paths and flanking options can also be created or blocked by falling debris.
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>>549897670
2 really didnt. The amount of cover you could get from a building was crap.

DoW2's system was a massive downgrade from company of heroes and I don't know why relic did it.
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>>549897554
I demand one (1) man per unit.
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>>549897978
Lmaooooo
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>>549898031
>rome 2 launch
don't remind me
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>>549898031
What are you on, as if Warhammer 3 wasn't a mini rome 2. The fantasy series has had dozens of examples of CA's incompetence and failure to live up to expecations.
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>>549897506
>game hasn't even come out
>fantasy fags want to preemptively ban it already
kek
The circle continues then. You will have to go the way of the histoids soon.
Also I missed the news cycle but do End Times mean we're never getting Dogs of War now?
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>40 minute download for Dawnless Days
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>>549897789
When I saw the trailer on the shitter this morning I saw 0.6 seconds of a battlefield zooming out to a world, I am extrapolating from that that each world will be just one battle and said battle will be an "mp fag mode that plays like shit" with the control points so I shall repeat that until weeks AFTER release.
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>>549897145
>>549897554
3k had 240 men units as standard on ultra settings
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>>549897010
Transhuman? No they're not human at all, they were made by the Old Ones.
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>40k grand strategy
>40k which in lore is known to have MASSIVE battles composed of billions of troops
>game will only be able to handle a couple thousand models at most
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>>549898238
Well how many units does Total Warhammer 40k have as standard on ultra settings?
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>>549898192
oh fuck I forgot about the release. there's no torrent?
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>>549897316
Anti-40K schizos are now on the phase "well yeah 40K got confirmed but its still not good!" so yes.
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>>549898192
>launcher installs much quicker
>0.92, wait a few more hours
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>>549897372
On to Aspect Warriors;
The designated military branch of the Craftworlds, Aspect Warriors are trained fighters broken up into individual Aspect Shrines. Each Aspect represents an role on the battlefield, while each Shrine focuses on a specialization of that role.
Dire Avengers, under Asurmen, represent a balance of offense and defense. They carry modified Shuriken Catapults and are the most basic of the Aspects, but are still effective at typical warfare.
Dark Reapers, under Maugan Ra, are long range heavy support, carry missile launchers fit with grav stabilizers. Capable of both anti-infantry and anti-armor specializtations, they are essentially man-portable artillery.
Striking Scorpions, under Kharandras, are melee stealth experts. Where Banshees are anti-heavy infantry, Scorpions specialize in carving up lightly armored chaff via ambush tactics.
Fire Dragons, under Fuegan, are meant to be anti-armor specialists. The're actually anti-everything specialists and Eldar WILL drop a squad of them out of a Falcon to kill any vehicle, monster, or lone model on the board.
Warp Spiders, under Lhykhis, are fasr-response defense specialists utilizing teleporter packs and close-ranged filament guns that spray a 'web' of razor wire. Until this year they had the oldest models on tabletoo.
Swooping Hawks, under Baharroth, are fast-attack specialists using refined jetpacks to move quickly around the field, either tossing grenades or hosing down enemy squads with laser fire as they go.
Crimson Hunters are fighter jet pilots so they don't count.
>>549897010
No
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>>549898309
But the video game is based on the tabletop which is focused on smaller scale engagements
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>>549896006
The funny thing is I will actually be able to re-create that Bret colored knight with the customization mechanic, ehich isn't just colors and unit faces, but also wargear. You could probably have Sqvire as some guard general/hero or whatever if there is a young adult blonde dude head available
Bretonnia shall live on in space
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>>549897789
It's not entirely inaccurate. The smaller scale and individualism in the units haven't really been done to quite this degree in total war. I am looking forward to the campaign map and bigger campaign map, though. I think if CA goes into detail about them next week they'll really cement it as a total war title with new features rather than dawn of war with a total war logo slapped on it.
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Does 40K even have Fimir?
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Which faction will have the cutest foids?
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>>549898314
By simple virtue of the fact that vehicles seem to be single entities, based on the screens, they should be able to have at least 240
They wont though, because consoles
I will be very surprised if we get even Reaver Titans
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>>549897010
Necrons are the trans-coded faction. They suffer from body dysphoria (they call it dysphorak) and some of them changed gender when they became robots.
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>>549898502
bro 40cucks does even have BEASTMEN!
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That.... Sounds absolutely terrible.

Goddamn, I've defended CA and Total Warhammer for a year in this sub. I seriously hope they don't fuck it up now and make me look like a fool. Four playable races!? No elves? No Chaos? No Skaven (who are super important in the lore right now)? No Lizardmen? No Tomb Kings?

Please let those "four races" just be categories.

Like in Attila, Barbarian Kingdoms - Franks, Saxons etc. Great Migrators - Goths etc.

Please.
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>>549898616
Eldar obviously
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>>549898502
We have Jokaero.
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>>549898438
>It's not entirely inaccurate. The smaller scale and individualism in the units haven't really been done to quite this degree in total war.
Lol
Lmao
Shogun 1 had single entity units.
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>Like you'd expect in the tabletop game, a unit of your warriors isn't just made up of one unit type. It's not the same person: they've got different specialists, different weapon styles," Mann explains, pointing to Space Marines as an example. "If you play the tabletop, a sergeant with an intercessor squad is armed with a chainsword and bolt pistol. They're good in both melee and ranged."

>These loadouts can be changed by players, from picking their weapon loadouts to even more in-depth customization via a fully-fledged unit painter. Neither Mann or Hall seem phased by the balance of power between ranged and melee combat. The confidence brings to mind Total War: Warhammer, which prompted fears – since proven unfounded – over how flying units, godlike beings, and spellcasting would gel with the once exclusively historical series.
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>>549898309
>MASSIVE battles composed of billions of troops
>couple thousand models at most
That has been the case for every single total war with the exception of FotS. The scale of total war has always been comically off. Even FotS didn't get it right since there the battles are too big compared to the real war.
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>>549898640
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>>549898628
>They wont though, because consoles
Unit scale is a variable setting in the Total War games since forever. If you want to doompost at least put some thought into it.
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>>549898309
there should be a multiplayer mode where every day there's different planets with different conflicts of 2-5 different factions and you pick your army, drop in to an active battlefield, and fight until all your units die/rout and another player replaces you
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>>549898031
TRVKE
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>>549898502
No. It also doesn't have big woolly mammoths.
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>>549898731
So does warhammer fantasy. If you know what I mean then stop being a dumb cunt. If you don't know what I mean then don't respond.
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>>549898616
Who do you think?
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So we know what WILL be in the base game: Empire, Orcs, Vampire Counts, Dwarves and some type of Chaos... I would assume Warriors because they are the most generic...

No Elves mentioned... Elven Kindred DLC: High Elves, Dark Elves, Wood Elves. $8 OR Campaign Expansion because Western continent and Ulthuan weren't included in base $15 No Skaven or Lizardmen mentioned... Lustria, plague or Warp DLC: Skaven, Lizardmen, ______(Beasmen maybe?) $8 Other potential DLC? Demons of Chaos DLC: Khorne, Tzeench, Slaanesh, Nurgel; $12(premium price... because Demons of Chaos) Eastern Kingdoms DLC: Tomb Kings, Ogre Kingdom, Araby. Kingdoms of Men DLC: Brittania, Kislev, Tilea or Cathay or Sisters of Sigmar??

SEGA- HIRE ME!
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>>549898383
More into specialists;
Rangers are snipers and scouts, essentially renegades hired on by a Craftworld to support military endeavors. They also have Shroud Runners, who ride tandem jetbikes to fire off sick trickshots.
Warlocks are Seers who previously were Aspect Warriors, combining psychic prowess with combat experience. Often more of a support caster, Warlocks tend to work closely with Guardians if not assembling as a Seer Council to directly assist and guard a Farseer. Likely a Hero unit, but is generally one of the more recognizable Eldar units.
Corsairs, similar to Rangers, are outcasts and renegades sometimes hired by Craftworlds. Putting it simply they're Pirates, bringing in weaponry and tools from the myraid different Eldar cultures and combining their strengths. Might be in the game, but probably not.
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>>549897486
>You 40keks are going to get Rome 2'd so fucking hard
Anon, this is gonna be a way bigger disaster than Rome 2. It's in an entirely different league. Take Rome 2 at launch and
>strip away most of the factions
>add day 1 DLC
>drastically change up the campaign map
>drastically change up the combat because everyone has guns now
>the battle map will be littered with buildings and cover
>for the cherry on top, make it obvious that it was built for consoles first and PC second
>finally, it will be the most expensive TW game in history despite not being an actual TW game and having half your revenue split with those kikes at Games Workshop
Yeah this disaster is Chernobyl meltdown tier. Might even destroy CA. I would love to see it.
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>>549898748
That's actually pretty interesting. So a single unit can have guys with different weapons.
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>Go to bed
>Wake up
>40k Total war is still happening, histchuds still seething
Life is good
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When I send a lord with no army to tail my LL and gain some levels, is that experience free, or is it siphoned off of the leading army?
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>>549897691
>2 years later...
>"WTF WHY IS MY FUCKING ROCKET LAUNCHER MARINE NOT USING HIS ROCKET LAUNCHER"
>"Does anyone else's game crash when they try to equip a heavy bolter on their squad captain?"
>"the animations are broken on the melta marine, they just t-pose!"
>(It will take 3 months for them to fix these issues, and when they finally do, they break double what they fix)

>>549897316
Kinda not really because the point was never that 40K Total War could never happen, its that it SHOULD never happen because CA is too lazy and retarded to do it correctly and the trailer and FAQ proved that 100%
This is going to be a sloppy, static, shitty, borderline unplayable money pit that will be less engaging to play than Dawn of War 1, while not even having anything different to speak of such as gameplay scale or squad optimization, nor advanced squad based tactics because console CPUs won't be able to run anything more advanced without crashing.
This will fail horrendously. Its literally just GW strongarming CA into attempting to make them another licensing-based money printer and new fan generator but its not going to work because in their boundless avarice they are going to try to make the game as easily approachable as possible, which will render it too simplistic and boring for longtime fans and too stilted, clunky, and boring for newcomers.
This can't not fail. There is no universe in which this game is good.
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>>549898761
>Unit scale is a variable setting in the Total War games since forever

Disingenous post. The issue is obviously what the maximum size is capped at, I don't think anyone is denying that you always used to be able to lower it if you wanted to.
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>>549898993
>Kinda not really because the point was never that 40K Total War could never happen, its that it SHOULD never happen
Absolutely pathetic goalpost moving holy shit
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>>549898309
>40K """tabletop"""
>40k which in lore is known to have MASSIVE battles composed of billions of troops
>game will only be able to handle a couple thousand models at most
40K tabletop will never be made. And even if it does, it'll fucking suck and no one will play it
Lmao retard
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>>549898748
Does this signify a departure from strict unit tiers?
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>>549898761
Doesnt change anything. Console limitations will absolutely affect units sizes.
The fact CA did it out of sheer laziness earlier doesnt matter.
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Hey guys a gound a screenshot and the scale seems just fine… wait this is DoW IV
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>>549898940
Experience is shared between the two.
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>>549898860
nigger you don't know what you mean lol.
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>>549898993
>the point was never that 40K Total War could never happen, its that it SHOULD never happen
Here comes the historical revision
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>>549898993
You must have strong shoulders from all the goalpost moving you do
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>>549898993
>Kinda not really because the point was never that 40K Total War could never happen
lol
lmao even
You're not fooling anyone m8.
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@grok add it to the collage
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>>549898761
>> he thinks ghey are going to have variable scale in a console game.

You are just being disingenuous, they know the larger the better for the trailer, this is the best they had.
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The maximum size of unit is capped by the fact a chapter can have up to 1000 marines. You will not field more than 1000 marines in a given campaign. Everything else has to work around that limit.
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>>549899040
>>549899103
>>549899152
He brushes over some genuine retards who denied it, but he has a point. After hyenas layoffs there was plenty of posting about how CA needed a moneymaker fast, and that they would go for 40k regardless if it was actually a good fit or not
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>>549898938
why are they drawn like that? Is that an edit?
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>>549886750
>wake up
>historytards and fantasissies are still having a meltdown
Just let go.
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>Felis skin for Imperium army painter locked behind pre order bonus.
How mad would you be?
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>>549898309
They don't go up to that scale because it becomes unmanageable.
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>>549899016
Well there is no reason they can't make the max setting on PCs higher than console. Literally every game that releases on PC and console lets you do this. I shouldn't tell you this but if you actually want a valid concern you should wonder if they will balance the game around a smaller unit scale for the sake of consoles. Currently the game is balanced around the highest unit scale.
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ASURCHADS, DRUCHIIGODS, ASRAIBVLLS, IT'S TIME TO FINALLY UNITE AS AELDARI AND BTFO SPACE MARINEFAGS
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>>549898314
CA keeps pushing graphics when they should push troop numbers. About 5-6k is the most you will see on the battlefield in a standard campaign. With mods and custom battles, it can reach upwards of 50k but
>it'll lag even on a 5090
>CA engines aren't optimized for shit so it'll crash before the battle even ends
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>>549889457
>>549896438
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>>549899271
Furshit is gay so I wouldn't care.
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I'm worried that the same team that made twwh3 is making tww40k
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>>549899226
A chapter can have infinite "scouts" who are space marines in all but name so a chapter can have thousands of fighting men just fine, and additionally each scout is waiting for a "real" space marine to die so they can take his place. There is no maximum. It's a lie.
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>>549898993
>the point was never that 40K Total War could never happen, its that it SHOULD never happen
I remember the day you guys moved that goalpost
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>>549899271
Never. They're canonically restricted to their own world, any escapees are killed.
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We don't want TW:AoS until GW brings the WHF ogress, and she-elf lore over to AoS.
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What's with 40k that make histoid seeth this hard because holy shit. They are resorting to imaginary scenario in their heads with just the 10 seconds gameplay footage.
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I love cheats!
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I’m sad

I’ll preface this with saying Im happy for all those who wanted WH40k, seriously, and in all honesty I’ll probably get it as well to play with friends. However…

I’m saddened by the fact that this means wh3 support will most likely be coming to a close in a year or two. I’m a relative newcomer to the series and Warhammer fantasy as a whole, but it’s legitimately been the game that reignited my love of video games after years of burnout.

I know that all games must come to an end and at least warhammer fantasy has had its time in the sun, but Im worried that, quite like the first time around, warhammer fantasy will be quickly rushed to completion and discontinued now that there is an 40k alternative on the table.

I just don’t want my favorite game of all time to get left in a buggy, rushed mess when it has done so much for the total war franchise and basically revived the warhammer fantasy ip singlehandedly.

I know this is probably just dramatic doomerism, but its how Im feeling rn
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>>549899226
Then you balance it the other way around. You start with the highest number your engine can handle and give that to the guards/tyranids, then you balance it down to marines size. Not hard at all, the lotr mod for medieval fucking 2 does that.
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>>549899271
ngl I would preorder for some cute catboys
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>>549899342
what the fuck is that in the corner?
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>>549899342
>CA keeps pushing graphics when they should push troop numbers
This. Take the EDFpill
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>>549899429
Total War players are huge crybabies who will always doompost and criticize because CA have burned us so many times in the past. It's a trauma response honestly.
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>>549899450
WH fantasy total war isnt going away anon, you just got here at the end when its finished. Congrats, you missed a lot of bullshit.
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>>549899381
nigger you need to let go of this team delusion
outside of horsham/sofia it doesnt exist
the credits are basically identical across the games again barring sofia/horsham
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>>549898502
40K have a whole race about forced crossbreeding.
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>>549899381
It's almost certainly the case, unfortunately
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>>549899409
Where does it say that in canon anon?
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>>549899226
That's old lore mostly. You can not only lawyer your way around this limitation, it's also now mostly ignored.
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>>549899381
The lead designer is the same guy who did the battle gameplay for Attila
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>>549899067
40k total war is much more zoomed out and has higher model counts
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>>549897506
Can yov hear the siren's call?
It's svveet and call for yov and yovr kind.
Join vs in the grave svveet fanatsoi child.
VVe've been vvaiting for you.
Oblivion is a svveet release that you seek!
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>>549899381
This is in fact a valid reason to worry

>>549899429
They think the thread is literally unusable when 40k is the topic of conversation.
>why
They haven't explained it
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>>549898914
Now onto one of my favorite bits; Wraith Constructs.
Every Eldar carries a spirit stone to protect their soul from Slaanesh. In times of great need, these stones can be installed into Wraithbone war-constructs to act as supplementary forces. These forces are often slow, plodding, and durable, counter to the usual Eldar units.
Wraithguard, the most basic construct, are durable heavy weapons teams. They carry either D-Scythe to mow down mobs of enemies, or Wraithcannons that can punch holes in just about anything.
Wraithblades are a melee variant of Wraithguard, wading through heavy fire into melee to carve through enemies. Notably, Wraithblades and Wraithguard are as durable if not moreso than Space Marine Terminators.
Leading these two units are Spiritseers, Eldar 'necromancers' who guide Wraithguard and enhance their capabilities.
Above this are Wraithlords, the Eldar equivalent to Dreadnaughts, carrying the Spirit Stone of a leader of the Craftworld so they can continue to provide aid and guidance. Can come with lots of loadouts and are generally pretty damn durable for a walker.
Where Wraithlords are often Autarchs, Wraithseers are Farseers. Ancient, rare, and monumentally powerful, Wraithseers combine the physical might of a Wraithlord with the psychic might of a Farseer. Unlikely to get in as a model, but extremely possible.
Above even these is the Wraithknight, the Eldar answer to the Imperial Knight. Huge, agile, and deadly, they can only be piloted by a pair of rare Eldar twins where one is dead and the other still lives. Over multiple editions Wraithknights are one of the most controversial units ever, causing numerous changes to basic rules for how powerful they are. If Stompas are in, Wraithknights are.
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>>549899271
I have never once seen the appeal of 'catgirls' as compared to normal women. I find neither cat ears nor tails of any value for attractiveness.
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There is a chance that the unit sizes shown off were just large, not huge.
But it has varied historically, they've shown off games with both historically, sometimes with the same game.
The first battle we saw of WH2 was with large units, followed by one with huge.
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>>549899689
that image is cool
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>>549899381
>>549899557
>Galaxy of souls looks suspiciously like Realm of Souls
>going all in on procedural generation gimmick

NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT
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>>549899450
>I’ll preface this with saying Im happy for all those who wanted WH40
I'm not. They are faggots who got what they wanted by complaining the loudest. Faggots like that you can't appease because they live to complain and ruin other people's fun and then they memoryhole everything like they never cared for it. CA will be stuck holding the bags. Mark my fucking words, a TW 40K game
WILL
NOT
WORK
An RTS 40K game works but TW does not work with anything beyond the Napoleonic era and line infantry. You wanna know how I know? Because they tried it with WW1 and cancelled it. Now they are doubling down on their company's future. This is gonna be great.
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>>549899703
Uhhh Daniel is good design. Just his faction mechanics need a rework making your own demon prince is badass
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Will range units in 40k also refuse to fire if one pixel of a friendly unit is in the way?
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>>549899450
>I’m saddened by the fact that this means wh3 support will most likely be coming to a close in a year or two
1-2 years of content is crazy, most people (see: legend of total embarassing predictions) thought the game would be sunset with tides of torment
>but Im worried that, quite like the first time around, warhammer fantasy will be quickly rushed to completion and discontinued now that there is an 40k alternative on the table.
they took an entire year (with all the doomposting that comes with if youve read the frankly toxic youtube and forum comments) to release tides of torment and straight up released it andannounced 2-4 upcoming DLCs this coming year ending with the End Times and you think they're going to rush?
time and time again people look at the evidence and just say silly stuff
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>>549898031
>"uh [game released 12 years ago] was bad at release so [game releasing in 2 years] will be bad at release as well, if you disagree you are a redditor!"
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Which faction gets the honor of your first 40k campaign?
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>>549899794
What about horsegirls?
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>>549899450
Don't worry, even if CA stop supporting the game, modders will fill that role just fine, even fixing bugs and other questionable design decisions.
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>>549887358
Why does the nazi have a fat ass? I must know.
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TWW3 got fucked over by being a covid game too to be quite fair to CA
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>>549897506
And if it's good you fags will either have to leave to another website or put up with our shit for 20 plus years. Im willing to take the gamble.
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You guys are so autistic lmao
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>>549898940
Shared but worth it imo. I always have a lord trailing my main army. Its much better to have level 30 and 20 lords than one level 40 lord by mid-endgame.
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>>549899832
>They are faggots who got what they wanted by complaining the loudest. Faggots like that you can't appease because they live to complain and ruin other people's fun and then they memoryhole everything like they never cared for it
But enough about medieval 3 fags!
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>>549899464
Based on the trailer I see way more Orks and Guard than marines. Hell 1 Guard infantry unit is 80 guys, nearly a whole marine company. Scale seems fine to me
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>W40K TW to be developed for consoles

Its so fucking over

captcha: basedhh
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>>549899905
even worse.
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>>549899806
no shit dude
and ultra was released later
not even that but
>wow not alot of space marines relatively speaking
of course not
its space marines
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>>549899040
>>549899103
>>549899142
>>549899152
Yes I do have strong shoulders thank you for noticing bb <3 but no this is not a goalpost move.
I personally never claimed that it couldn't happen. It couldn't be done WELL, but you can ATTEMPT to make anything. I don't know how to transmission swap a car but I could TRY, it just wouldn't work.
Same thing here. CA fundementally undestimates/misunderstands the scale and quality level required to make a 40K Total War game, and UNLIKE TWWH, the Dawn of War franchise along with many other 40K video games already do the exact same thing that they're trying to do but better and more in-depth and they've been doing it for years but they're better at it.
Are you all really forgetting that half the fucking reason CA hasn't gone bankrupt is because nobody else makes anything like Total War games? They have a monopoly on the gameplay model.
This will not be true for TW40K, which is one of the biggest reasons why it will fail so spectacularly.
People will buy it and try to play it, have it crash or break 5+ times day 1, make an angry review on Steam or twitter (because you just know they're gonna demand 70+ dollars for this game) and switch to DoW forever.
Screenshot this post and watch me be right.
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>>549899265
Are you going to post this every hour?
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>>549899865
>they took an entire year (with all the doomposting that comes with if youve read the frankly toxic youtube and forum comments) to release tides of torment and straight up released it andannounced 2-4 upcoming DLCs this coming year ending with the End Times and you think they're going to rush?
This was not out of wanting to assure good quality, but partially because CA laid off 300 people not so long ago.
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>>549899931
Do you know where you are?
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>>549899905
golshi cute
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Warhammer is literally unplayable without army replenishment heroes. They're in no way an option. There's just too much non stop fighting.
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>>549898868
Anon, she already busy
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I don't know how you can have a big expansive 40k game without either Chaos or Tyranids as the main antagonist faction on launch.
Orks are the eternal jobber faction. They're the enemy that gets hyped up in the backstory, and then gets wrecked when the story actually focuses on them.
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>>549900026
Im not reading that
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>>549899317
This has always been one of my favorite art works, love looking at all the little vignettes. My favorite is the artillery battery about to be overrun by genestealers
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>>549899806
How customizable will unit scale even be when you have to manually choose soldier loadouts? You pick the set for 10 marines in a squad for 20 squads but then find out your computer can't run it so you decrease unit scale and all your marines get wiped randomly and you have to fuck with the loadouts again
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>>549899737
man I remember seeing some of those in DoW 3 trailer and thought they were the coolest shit ever. Well shame the game was trash.
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>>549900129
Orks never job

they always have a right grand old time.
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>>549900026
>Same thing here. CA fundementally undestimates/misunderstands the scale and quality level required to make a 40K Total War game, and UNLIKE TWWH, the Dawn of War franchise along with many other 40K video games already do the exact same thing that they're trying to do but better and more in-depth and they've been doing it for years but they're better at it.

But you're just fundamentally understanding what they're trying to do. They want to depict the entire setting as an open sandbox, not just a few battles. It's a grand strategy game with RTS battles not just an RTS.
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>>549900021
>>wow not alot of space marines relatively speaking
Not a lot of orks or guard either tbqhwyd their units look tiny
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>>549899917
i have zero idea why they are but the pants have flappy sides
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>>549899918
>covid game
Not excuse. Elden Ring was came out the same year and was fine. As were many others.
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>>549893323
First media depiction of vampire was Nosferatu 1922 and he had pointy ears
Then the others decided to slap on them elf ears because why not
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>>549899429
>What's with 40k that make histoid seeth

Once again I am reminding you that what you think is 'histoid' seethe is just the natural result of playing CA games long enough. If you don't understand that, then you literally just haven't been playing Total War games long enough.

40k will come out and will have a bunch of bugs that were in Warhammer, got fixed, and are somehow inexplicably back again. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
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>>549899429
Histoids thought that once fantasy was over they could have their general back. However 40k GODS are going to rape both of them to death
>>549899450
>I'm sad that the largest, most feature rich total war in history is going to live on with a robust modding community that pushes the engine further every year
Fantafags are hilarious
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>>549900138
You're also never getting Drukari, they're planned for Game 2, which will be cancelled after Game 1 makes less than half of its dev investment after a month on the play store
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>>549899794
Cat's are cute, I think people genuinely consider them "Superior" to normal woman, they just like cats and like women.
Something with both traits is fun to look at.
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>>549899832
Yes we only got tw40k because people on 4chan begged for it
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River troll hAAAAAg
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>>549900047
>This was not out of wanting to assure good quality, but partially because CA laid off 300 people not so long ago
who said anything about quality
regardless my point is plenty of people thought the game would be sunset after tides
they were just sure it would be sunset alot sooner than the end of next year, and certainly not before a full fledged (potentially?) new faction
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>>549900281
and then everyone clapped
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>>549900129
The best 40k book of all time, Helsreach, shows Orks as competent villains that don't get usurped by chaos.
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can space marine scouts have sex?
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>>549899265
people that actually play games that exist get drowned by secondaries spamming what if>>549899271
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>>549899836
Daniel is not good design because he doesn't properly interact with the game model: he can't confederate anyone, his faction means he will never get a full DLC/FLC rework like Throgg or Durthu or Malagor, and since he is so different from everyone else and has no unique units and no tech tree it's impossible to give small updates to him.
He was a good idea at launch, but he's not made for a game that needs to last a decade, being updated along the way.
That's the core problem of Daniel and the core problem of the CA main team (unlike the DLC team): they think to make a cool launch campaign and they don't think of the long term total war experience.
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>>549900395
oh sorry i thought you meant out of quality with
>and you think they're going to rush?
yeah i agree the dooming over wh3 was excessive, nagash et al were always gonna happen
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>>549900281
This one's gonna look good in the collage a few years from now
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>>549899059
Not all units can use all weapons.
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>>549900416
only gay sex
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>>549900416
Of course, but space marines only have sex with each other. It's part of the Codex.
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>>549889815
look at civ 6 and 7 and tell me how making it for consoles is not a bad thing
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>>549899421
AoS doesn't have female ogres and elves?
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>>549899737
Thank you.
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>>549900415
Easy mistake to make but you misspelt 15 hours.
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>>549899737
Vehicles;
War Walkers, scout vehicles piloted by Guardians, are basic scouting vehicles. Even then they can still carry heavy weapons, and despite their odd looks they move fast.
Windriders are, putting it basically, Jetbike cavalry. Fast, but not much else.
Shining Spears, under Drastanta, are the Jetbike Aspect Warriors. Specialized in shock charges, they carry Laser Lances which they'll fire at point blank range for maximum effectiveness.
Wave Serpents are the designated transport vehicle based off the Falcon chassis, losing some firepower to maximize transport capacity. Can still pack a bit of a punch though.
Fire Prisms are the inverse of that; losing all transport capacity, Fire Prisms optimize weaponry with a dangerous Prism Cannon that can fire both focused lances and explosive bursts of energy. Most notably, Fire Prisms are capable of shooting through each other by aiming at each others Prisms, allowing some devestating trickshots from around cover.
Night Spinners are a specialist vehicle still utilizing the Falcon chassis. Essentially a 'mortar', Spinners fire large webs of monofilament wire that then fall on the target and slice them to ribbons.
Vypers are heavier Jetbikes with a mounted turret. Very basic, very effective. A notable fast harassment unit like many Eldar units.
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>>549900227
>They want to depict the entire setting as an open sandbox, not just a few battles.
and I'm telling you that you're fundamentally misunderstanding that by forcing this game to run on consoles they're going to be incapable of portraying that sandbox. The "map" will be like 50 planets with 15 possible battle maps possible and like 4 possible climates for planets on launch and every one will feel the exact same and only be nominally different.
Best case scenario you get some random bullshit on some planets like having to dodge meteor showers or traverse swamps or some shit
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This might be the wrong time to ask but is Sayl fun?
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>>549893926
40k would be better without marines. There I said it. Have some crisis either widdle down thier number dramatically or exile them to a corner of the galaxy. Making guard the true defenders of humanity.

then and only then would it be whf but in space.
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>>549899737
Thanks for the rundown anon
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>>549900415
>shows Orks as competent villains that don't get usurped by chaos.
eh some of them
the thing with the orks subs is really cool but the first fight scene is literally several orks failing catastrophically to hide in an ambush (only successful because the templar is reckless) and another where a horde rushes right into prepared defences and gets slaughtered
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>>549900683
yes
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>>549899869
Alrighty then. How about Warhammer 3 that released a few years ago? I guess you guys have already memoryholed the part where that game was basically unplayable for 6 months?
The Realm of Souls campaign designed by people who clearly wish they were making something other than Total War?
The game that's needed 3 separate teams to try and rebuild it into something decent?
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Sit down and get comfortable hissisies. It's not gonna end any time soon.
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>>549900691
>40k would be better without marines.
This but chaos. I'm okay with marines existing as a branch within the Guard who specialize in ship boarding actions or invasions.
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In the lore orks can beat everything they have psychic powers to do whatever they want it’s why 40k is such an epic setting
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>>549900679
>and I'm telling you that you're fundamentally misunderstanding that by forcing this game to run on consoles they're going to be incapable of portraying that sandbox.

Ok but that's a different argument than saying it's the exact same thing as Dawn Of War so it's destined to fail. Maybe it's gonna fail cause of consoles, hopefully not. It's definitely the most reasonable cause for concern at this point.
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>>549900691
>
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>>549900779
>It's not gonna end any time soon.
What exactly is "it"?
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>>549900683
yes
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>>549900250
he has not heard of ze fartencatcher
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>>549894049
>AI actually beats out the real release.
AHAHAHAHA! SO THIS IS WHY AI NEEDS TO BE BANNED!
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>>549900752
Yeah it portrays Orks and an unending horde of violence with tons of random bullshit that the marines struggle to fully keep up with as their numbers dwindle from a whole company to 1
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>>549900779
It's funny that you think any histfags still exist. All that's left in this thread are fantasyfags and general total war enjoyers. That and the /v/ermin tourists who show up to shitpost each other with each new announcement, as is custom.
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>>549900902
>>549900768
I forgot to ask but does he get a mammoth?
I believe in the book he rode a white mammoth to the final battle at Nuln.
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>>549900691
Sort of spoils the whole element of:

>"These superhuman retards literally went apeshit and destroyed the imperium and now we have to rely on 50% of them saving our asses and they could once again go apeshit at any moment."
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>>549900691
Nice try Eldarkek
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>40k doesnt have night goblins
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Histchuds are going to have so much free time to shit up the warhammer thread since they dont have anything to play for the next 7 years before Med 3
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>>549900530
Did you read latest dev Q&A where they said they are working on cross confederations?
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>>549901025
He does
It's not white
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>>549901023
A handful of histsisses exist, though most have fled to /vst/ to share the same handful of boring screenshots back and forth
>look at how big my pontus is
>ZOMG the ai put all its units on a bridge and I flanked them
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>>549901043
They have Moon Gretchens. Gretchens that live on moons.
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>>549901134
>>549901134
>>549901134
NEW
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>>549901025
he does yes
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>>549900863
Its GOING TO BE the exact same thing as DoW because thats literally the best they'll be able to do after hamstringing themselves to consoles. It'll be stunted, worse DoW because trying to make the scale of battles any bigger than that will melt console CPUs (and probably PCs considering how poorly optimized these games tend to be) and they need this game to run enough to engage Apex and CoD drones, which it won't because no matter how much they streamline it, these people just DO NOT care for strategy games.
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>>549894629
WAIT
REWIND!
ENHANCE!
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>>549901067
>7 years

that's wishful thinking anon
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>>549900530
Daniel was a test for 40K customization options
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>>549901140
You sure seem quite obsessed about history players even though they're apparently all over in /vst/ and not here. Some kind of bogeyman?
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>>549894049
Now do the galactic map. Shit is gonna look retarded and I say this as a scifi fan.
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Im a history player and trans me snd my girlfriend are excited to play medieval 3
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>>549901191
>Its GOING TO BE the exact same thing as DoW

Ok I'm not reading your posts anymore. Keep thinking that if you want. There's no way for either of us to prove the other wrong so this is pointless.
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SM unit count seems larger than I thought, looking back at it. Don't like that the set up in the second fight implies friendly fire doesn't exist and sight lines have been stripped down a bit though.
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Should’ve bought pharaoh history cucks.
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ugh... togal war
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And finally; Harlequins
These likely aren't in at launch, but almost certainly will come as DLC. Performers, historians, and soldiers all in one, Harlequins travel the galaxy fighting enemies of the Eldar while performing dramatic plays portraying Eldar history, sometimes at the same time. They worship one of the few remaining Eldar gods, Cegorach, the Laughing God, who is patron of arts and guardian of the Black Library, a secretive and hidden Craftworld within the Webway that contains kmowledge of EVERYTHING.
Troupe Leaders manage these groups, directing both combat and performances.
Shadowseers are narrators and storytellers, and are the psykers of the Troupes. Utilizing both psychic abilities and hallucinogenic grenades, Shadowseers work to LITERALLY transport enemies into the 'stort' being told.
Death Jesters round out the Harlequin trifecta, and are long-ranged specialists with unique Shuriken Cannons. As the name implies, Death Jesters seek to kill their targets in the most dramatic and entertaining ways, which is pretty simple since their Cannons use a toxin that makes their targets quickly expand and explode like a balloon.
Skyweavers are Harlequin jetbike cavalry, toting around special weapons and unique melee weapons like bolas
Starweavers are Harlequin light transports, little else to say on the matter. Quick, effective, deadly.
Voidweavers are the combat variant of Starweavers, trading transport capacity for unique and esoteric heavy weapons, such as the Haywire cannon which can devestate vehicles.
Finally, there is the Solitaire. As Slaanesh takes a special role in Eldar history, portrayal of Her is done only by specially chosen champions of the Harlequins. Solitaires are a horrific force by themselves, always travelling alone and appearing unbidden in horrific displays. Close combat experts, Solitaires can literally dance through entire squads of Space Marines without even being threatened.
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>>549900683
Yes and his mechanics are great without being OP, a great example of balanced and fun
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How many subfactions will space marines get?
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>>549890382
My fellow White Scars bro.
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>>549890012
>just to sell the game to like 2000 people on console. That just makes the entire thing even more retarded
Yes, this always happens with pc focused games which are forced to work on consoles. They will have to pivot after release, since consolefags wont buy it anyway and it wont be fun on it anyway, which again always happens.
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So when are we getting Total War: Red Alert 3?
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>>549905981
they need the woke era to be fully buried so they can include a poster with the babes as a homage to the original
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>>549897978
who's the fag faggot on the top right?
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>>549890441
>If you can truly customize your space marines then logically they can't sell them to you in piecemeal like this.
They can, SM2 has season pass with cosmetics. You will be able to further customize them then by mixing and matching parts like Space Marine games
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>Decide to do one last campaign for fun
>Sayl comes at me spamming dozen marauder stacks because they're dirt cheap chaff but PSYCHE they have Chosen stats (55MA/MD) besides armor
>Sayl has multiple free personal/army spells that wipe out 90% of units they hit AND they can be cast on walls, so even if you field endgame Dragon Guard / Swordmaster / Executioner stacks you'll lose half your army before the battle is even joined. Even then you got fullstack of Chosen tier marauders to beat
I sure love fighting powercreep factions :^)



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