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It's coming, singlcels: the biggest event of the year with 100% official TCALUK support and prize pool. Every participant had to qualify by winning in other tournaments, so only the proven best of the best will face each other. Tonight, the true king of Total Warhammer shall be crowned. Sit down and watch, singlcels, you might accidentally learn something about actually playing the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flPV96epDNY
Thanquol soon, friends!
Farseer Naestra!AUTARCHOUS ARAHAN!
Total gobbo genocide
Female Custodes soon, citizens!
>>549998830All who love retention fear the Milker.
>>549998817so true king
>>549998878Dwarf vengeance one step closer.
T b h I kinda miss when soldiers singled each other out in single combat and finished each other off in wacky animations
>>549998878>Total gobbo genocideSome of you dwarfs are okay.Don't come to the Badlands tomorrow.
SPARTMAAAAAAAAAAAANS!perpeare for benis
>>549999171Pharaoh does this
>>54999878001101011 01111001 01110011
>>549999171Synch kills are fine, it's the indecisive exchanges that get old quickly.
My uncle's friend works at CA and told me the planned release order:Space marines/eldar/imp guard/orksChaos space marinesChaos daemons (one faction)Space wolvesDeath guardTyranidsGrey knightsNecronsAdmechTauSisters of BattleThousand SonsDark eldarCustodesVotannWorld eatersGenestealers
>>549998712
Total War lost
>>549999459>Chaos daemons (one faction)fake af they wouldnt miss out on the opportunity to DLC out every faction
>>549999465>hate fun campaign, thing bad
>>549999470I don't see how it would work
>>549999556It's cheaper because they can port over the daemons from WH3 but not the mortal units they used to round out the monogod rosters. And they still sell the monogod space marine chapters on top of that.
>>549999465>multiple humans retarded characters addedThe general when they start rolling the inevitable LL dlcs with a dozen speesh marins captains that no one but the greasiest fa/tg/uy cares about (and before they add new factions)
>>549998780I want to hang out with the lute player.
glub glub i am a fish
>>549999593What do you mean? Thats enough for an entire space marine army right there!
>>549999593It would be too kino for us to comprehend
40k is going to be boring when it comes out there's barely any factions
BLACK PEOPLE
>>549999942It really is my nigga. Imagine fighting only 3 other guys, and one of them is your own dudes if you pick any of the imperium.... it's actually stupid af
>>549999942Which is why I'll be waiting for half a decade before paying it any attention.
What did Arch think about the announcement?
>>549999909>Literally 6-man squadsPeak
EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTING
Farseer wife or Howling Banshee wife?
>>550000260One does lsd the other does coke
>>550000147That faggot's still alive??
Your friendly neighborhood leaker here.>Factions are more unique than ever before as they already said>Eldar for example have a fuckton of Psy abilities>Orks usually have some interesting gimmick to their units making them both a menace to themselves and others.>For now 11th edition will be their "final" goal, it can change later, everything before it and FW is available for them to use.
>THIS ONE IS FOR BALIN YOU ORC FUCK
>>549999942vgh we are going home...But honestly CSM are probably already somewhat developed. In that Helldivers Valrak's leak it was mentioned that starting factions will be what we are getting now, with IG replacing CSM, which were originally in a base game and were playtested in previous testings.We won't get them as a preorder bonus because people complained about getting dlc factions for free if you buy game at release which you will do anyway. Which lead to the only realistic option of not giving them away for free anymore and instead releasing them with a delay shortly after. But yeah, that will mean that at least evil marines will arrive shortly at least.
>>550000260Farseee on the streets, howling banshee in the sheets
>>550000731Ok but when tyranids
>>550000147Seething that RTS looks and plays like RTS.
sayl's funny button has been pressedi wonder how karl will take these news
>>550000840TW has nothing to do with RTS. It's not RT and it's not Strategy. It's actually the antithesis of RTS: RTwP Tactics.
>>550000751A wee lad.
>>550000731Have they said anything about legendary lords or their equivalent?
>>550000751CSM are coming two months after launch.
>>550000801Eventually obviously, Chaos and Necrons are priority right now as far as new "races" go.They're also working on the smaller DLC that will add units, wargear, lords, new character customization options and events.
so did 40kchuds leave?is the general safe now?
>>550000801Tyranids will be the first major content drop and they'll introduce a galaxy map meta-progression system where a Hive Fleet invasion slowly overtakes the Galaxy, and you play scripted and themed campaigns to drive them back bit by bit, unlocking more campaigns along the scripted progression as you complete them.They'll do a similar thing for Necron with a great awakening, and with Chaos splitting the galaxy later on.
>>550001068You have 3 days until next batch of news or something.
How is this possible? I have enggame crisis turned off and it's not even turn 70
>>550000987I mean they said it officially.Lords as we know it are still in the game or do you mean DLC lords?As of now they want to tie in with the 11th edition boxset so Marines vs Orks is the first "pack" FLC Yarrick
>lower unit cap>lower unit sizes>2 imperium factions at launch>no chaos at launch>no indication of diplomacy mechanics>2 campaign resources>console limitations>100% accurate to tabletop models (aka SOULLESS) designs like every other modern 40k gamethe total war fanbase isn't the target audience for this game and thats a FACT
>>550001142>it's afraid
>>550001046I fucking hope, I don't know if it was Valrak or someone else who said it, but regular SM are apparently going to play like Nakai + Aislinn. It could be wrong but it sounds very possible. It's very fun from time to time, but not something I will want to play constantly unless the system got a nice overhaul in 40k, so I will have to pivot to Orks/Eldar/IG. CSM with a regular conquer shit system will be more consistently fun I think
>>550001129>Chaos splitting the galaxy later onThe galaxy is already split in the game anon. It's the indomitus era.
40k has the most potential of any Total War game they've ever done. They have some really good ideas here.However, CA is incompetent. They are staffed by tremendously poor employees now. This game will be a complete disaster that makes WH3 look like a masterwork.
>>550000975>>550000751Lorelet here, is he one of those "His real form is actually a grotesque creature" like that one dbz guy or he actually looks like handsome Arthas?
>>550001257lol its 40k, everyone knows they'll put the least amount of effort in because 40o fans will buy it regardless
>can't move in raiding stanceDamn, I forgot that this is a recent qol>>550000987I think that only that they exist. I hope LLs work like 3kingdoms instead so mostly generic killable Lords with some unique stuff on top and not a completely separate unit. So if you play as Ultras for an example you just have Titus and Ventris as functionally your generic company captains with only a bit of a flavor like some trait and that's it. Just like Cao Cao has that one eyed general in 3k.
>>550001257I'm hopeful because the devs seem really passionate and autistic about the IP. They'll build something good purely on that.
>>550001272He's just an asshole with a handsome face.
>>550001372Hyenas was their passion project they hate this nerd shit
>>550000910
>>550000975Considering the roid epidemic that's ravaging modern teens, this is quite a realistic portrayal.
>>550001167>console limitationsIt's getting released on consoles? look what that did to CoH3
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FOREST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i really hope console release doesnt fuck it up but its gonna fuck it up isnt ithows halo wars 2? they worked on that and it was on console, surely that isnt terrible
>>550001459yes, it's a console releaseonly reason it's getting released on consoles is because of 40k fans not being pc players, gotta get that "wider audience!"
>>550001352People keep saying this but most 40k games don't sell particularly well
>>550000910Total war has always been a battle movie watcher and the rest has been barebones and just a vehicle to make battles feel cooler and more impactful. It's a miracle the series has lived this long honestly with how dumbed down it's gotten. Compare rome 1 to some of the shit we have today and they basically have ONLY removed things like formations, buildings, spy/subterfuge, even sieges were more in depth in their VERY FIRST GAME. It's pathetic
what are the chances CA gets to flap its wings with 40k and create truly literally who units like the slaugth?
>>550001547I'm significantly less excited now
>>550001424RTwP is not real time by definition. Strategy and Tactics games focus on opposite things. You're dumb and your shit's retarded.
>>550001676How come when I do battles I have to do them in real time then?
>open pause menu to go take a shit>game stops being RTS
>>550001546Most of the people who made Halo Wars 2 are long gone, it's irrelevant. It'd be like saying this game should have good music because Rome 1 had good music
>>55000159740k fans are loudthey'll demand a 40k total war for years but have no actual interest in playing a total war game (otherwise they'd be doing it already)they just want it to exist because they want more 40k to exist
med 3 is going to be on console too you knowtotal war is dead
>>550001167>lower unit cap>lower unit sizesWe don't know this. Marines being actually radically different faction sounds great>no indication of diplomacy mechanicsthere is a button for this>2 campaign resourcesSo more than TWW>console limitationsin this age? Consoles are better than what most TW players have>100% accurate to tabletop models (aka SOULLESS) designs like every other modern 40k gameThis isn't real in any game, why is this meme still being pushed?also>seethe picturelol>>550001605They won't need to resort to this for over a decade. They would be allowed just like others are if there will be a need for this.
>>550001907>copium level: maximum
>>550001797You're thinking of all those 40k ecelebs who like to be "naughty" on the internet and weren't invited to playtest the alpha and are now seething instead.
>>550001605ZeroThey are clearly copying the current models 1 for 1, as every modern 40k strat game does now, probably by GW's autistic order
>>550001968Well it already sounds leagues better than TWW, with a multitude of new features and old ones being returned
>>55000075116 in hollywood years
i like total war
>>550002082it sounds like a stripped down version of WH3
>>550002152slurper
>That ball-jointYeah they are copying the models 100%
Neat.
>>550001907>This isn't real in any game, why is this meme still being pushed?so you're either blind, retarded, or bothSM2, DoW4 and TW40K all look identical to each other because EVERYTHING has to be as accurate to the tabletop models as possible, GW demands it soeven the trailer is interchangable with those games, any warhammer+ animation and secret level, its all the same shit
>>550000260Neither of those would be a good situation to be in. If you want an Eldar wife, you want a Guardian.
>>550002208uhhh can you outline it? I cant discern it from everything else in the image
My leak post on here back on october got scrubbed from the archive what
>>550000840we dont want an rts we want an autism warfare simulator
>>550002208I can't discern anything in this AI slop.
>>550002250Last time game wasn't accurate graphically and gameplaywise (DoW3) it flopped hard.40k needs to feel like 40k. Crazy idea I know.
>>550002396pls dont leak and ill vac u again
>>550001907NTA but how many times do people have to reiterate that console limitations for RTS isn't about specs it's about a fundamental dumbing down of mechanics because controllers can't keep up with more complex gameplay. Reminder that the other console RTS CA developed was Halo Wars 2 and that game is dumb as bricks and has less depth than even your average rock-paper-scissors RTS.
>>550000260Farseers wife is probably an ex-banshee
>>550002250>so you're either blind, retarded, or bothNope, clearly you are>SM2, DoW4 and TW40K all look identical to each other because EVERYTHING has to be as accurate to the tabletop models as possible, GW demands it soNope, all of them can have their own designs and use plenty of them. You won't find pic related Gravis to buy as a model. SM2 classes and wargear do not correspond to any unit. Darktide enemies are somewhat based on Vraks Traitor Guard which you cannot buy anymore and features tons of unique designs as well.
>>550002447DoW was also shit and you failed to mention that
>>550002447DoW3 flopped, because it was mobashit just like tw40k will be which will flop laughably as well.
>>550000869holy fucking shit is the empire at war with everyone?
>>550002510>post his space marine 2 multiplayer customization as a counterargumentgo to campaign, and look at the designs for literally anything, 90-100% tabletop accuracyachaeran is just the fucking phobos captain model
>>550002547They are going for realistic simulated combat for Warhammer 40k with a bunch of gore physics added.
Can't wait for moders to get their hands on the wargear system though.
>>550002523I said it flopped, doesn't flop mean shit to you?>>550002547We've all been through this before back when TW:WH fantasy was announced. Save your strength for the next decade of seething, no need to do it pre-release.
>>550002615that's sayl's funny button
>>550000751>>550000975>jojo protags be like
>>550002710DoW 3 was a shit game in almost every aspect, "model designs" werent a factor
>>550002661>They are going for realistic simulated combat for Warhammer 40kBy having intricate DoW2 cover mechanics and building garrisoning replaced by invisible passive terrain bonuses? Lel. DoW2 was 100x more realistic than this primitive kiddieslop.
>>550002364The ball-joint where the dread arm attatches to the body
>watch Zerkovich play Dechala >units are fast as fuckgoddamn
>>55000271040kiddieshit is sales poison. Fantasychads will laugh at your dogshit flop that has zero hype once the player numbers will be fraction of TWWH kek.
>>550002784It started with complaints about model designs - noodle marines. I also said in my original post "gameplay-wise" it didn't feel like 40k should feel. So I wasn't only talking about models unlike you right now.
>>550002896Damn well better be, Slaanesh needs to always have THAT going for them at least
>>550000000
>>550002826most of the budget has been going to Animation/Simulated combat stuff. Like orcs charging Space marines and then engaging in spectacle close combat. It's never really been done before in Total war.
>>550002510Malibu Stacy with new hat type shit
>>550003026What you want to say is "photogenicity" which has nothing to do with realism.
>he doesn't know
I would have preferred Total War: Renaissance to Total Warhammer: Future Slop.
>>549998712i want to gob gal-a-dry-elfwhats the best faction for it
>>550002504Everything they showed and talked about so far makes this game sound far more advanced and complex than TWW in every single way>>550002628>post his space marine 2 multiplayer customization as a counterargumentand? Why are you goal post moving? This is utterly irrelevant distinction>go to campaign, and look at the designs for literally anything, 90-100% tabletop accuracyIt literally isn't, including main characters>achaeran is just the fucking phobos captain modelCharacter model looking accurate to a pre-esthablished character makes sense. Does Obi-wan in adaptations looking like McGregor/Alec triggers you too? What an utterly nonsensical complaint.
medieval 3 will be trash like rome 2
>>550002830yeah where, the image is really bad that I cant tell (not your fault, the base screenshot is washed out)
>makes custom faction with + relations to guard factions
>>549998830I like this art
>>550003160>so far makes this game sound far more advanced and complex than TWW in every single wayTerrain wise? Yes. Campaign wise? Possibly. Actual in the moment combat? Nope. Enjoy few units and few things to micro because controllers can't keep up.
>>550003124yeah the campaign mechanics are pretty busted
How should I be building Aislinn's outposts. I keep second guessing myself and I feel like my dragonship supplies income is dogshit.
>>550003160so is cyrus, yet he's wearing the exact same design as acheran just in red in DoW4everything in these games is tabletop accurate and it looks shit
>>550003232We know space marines garrison with Guard, at least primarily. So that will get modded for eldar pretty quick too.
>>550003163It will be trash like the best selling Total War historical game that is still played by thousands 12 years after its release?
wait i didnt watch the game awardswhy are anons talking about 40k?is this some kind of a shitpost?please tell me it is
>>550003124>>550003302I wish my mods would update so I could play, I'm not going back to fuckin vanilla, cant stand it.
>>550003232I don't think anons fully comprehend what Eldar being in a Total War game means. Every other faction is fucked.
>>550003232Sqvire do not be tempted by the knife ear witchcraft
>>550003505im sorry
>>550003505FOR DA EMPRAH!!!!!!!!!
i just want it to be good
>>550003505The 40K lot got what they wanted. :(
>>550003505Oh no...
why are all w40k related youtubers such massive insufferable autistic spastic negroid tranny faggots?
>>550003413Now show Shogun 1's numbers just curious if someone picks it, last sale it went below the 1 dollar mark
>>550003517what are your mods of choice m8
>>550003342>so is cyrus, yet he's wearing the exact same design as acheran just in red in DoW4No he isn't, including his head, different backpack and bits on his armor as well as use of a chainsword. Only similar eq is a cape>Actual in the moment combat? Nope. Enjoy few units and few things to micro because controllers can't keep up.Yes including it with proper ballistics they mentioned
>>550003163gods i hope so
>>550003413kinda getting mogged by a game from 2006
>>550000975The fact that I recognize the manga that text bubble is from is crazy. What a crazy fucking story, literally became softcore porn for like ten chapters straight. It's "Wolf Guy". Don't read it. Or do. The teacher is hot
First mod I'm going to make for Total War 40K is a mod so that the Avatar of Khaine keels over dead any time it comes into close combat with a Space Marine unit, so that it accurately reflects its performance in the established lore.
>>550003679continued downward
Post your cheats boys>double skill point per level>auto resolve quest battles>customize starting army>change starting location>remove friendly fire>no climate penalties>warband upgrade for all factionsyep, it's WH3 time
>>550003171
>>550001167Assuming the unit cap is 12 because of the UI screenshot we got is crazy. I see no reason to assume its not 20. I am like 90% sure you can control more than 20 units in Halo Wars so I dont know why people think they are making Total War for the gamecube or something here.Also while the sizes seem lower, we did see an Ork unit with what looked to be either 80 or 100 models. So that being the "high end" is not too far off from the typical 120 unit cap of classic TW.
>>550003505you will have your blue guys and you will be happy!
>>550003678They're all imperiumfags
>>550003675Yeah see they felt obliged/were obliged to reproduce the current Mega-armored warboss model detail by detail, or at least besides the decision to remove the grot gunner
Ram is 1200$ right now. of course they are gonna do Console Release.
>>550003996Maybe it will be map dependent, smaller maps will result in smaller skirmishes, bigger maps will be 80v80 clustefuckfests.
>>550003692why lie?>>550003975>even copies the indented bit on the ball thats not actually part of the model design and just there so it connects betterjesus fucking christ, what's next, mouldlines being copied ingame?
>>550004125imagine trying to play total war with a controller lmao
>>550003739No? You play Rome II if you want Roman content. You play Medieval II for that eras content. They arent at odds with each other, you pick the time period you're interested in. Its not like you can play Rome II if you want to see crusading knights content.
>>550003551You expect another Dawn of Eldar situation?
>>550003505
>>550004125These games aren't being released anywhere near 'right now' though
>>550003760That's just eldarphobic propaganda
>>550003924SFO, I just like its battle pacing far better than vanilla.
>>550003901>A hundred players for the very first gameActually surprising
>>550003924is there anything that makes the AI not retarded? The only challenging part of the game is how every single hostile nation ignores everyone just to fuck with you once youre big enough, and have wall hacks to know exactly where you arent defending. It's like whack a mole rather than strategy it's cringe
>>550004286Phoenix Reiksguard (Railgun) (Melee)
>>550004168Imagine trying to play Total War MULTIPLAYER with a controller
>>550003551Regardless of what their state is in vanilla I am modding the fuck out of them to make it lore accurate
>>550004161>why lie?Where? Phobos Captain doesn't have a chainsword. Has a different antennas. Cyrus doesn't have that thing hanging from his belt. Etc>>550003675>>550004124His armor is literally different.None of those are any different than what previous games did and TWW does. All of them adapt models and then mix up with some of their designs
>>550003413>Attila currently the most-played historical titleBased Dawnless Days finally waking the community up to the best game in the series.
It should have been Star Wars.
>>550004441idk I haven't fucked with AI mods, I just build a garrison in every settlement
>>550004540>lore accurateWhat, you gonna mod them to auto-job and be forgotten?
Watching Enticity stream now and he has to deal with people shitting on the 40k dogshit UI and make up excuses for TCALUK dumbing down the game for consoles lmao40kiddieshit has 0 hype behind it. Turin hasn't even commented on it yet LOL. It's going to flop harder than DoW3.
Which Total War game has the best music?
>>550004857Rome 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpv8vaq583w
>>550004857warhammer 3 music still goes hard after playing for 2k+ hours. The vampire theme with the organ is awesome and I love the rat throat singing
>>550003924using sigmars heirs rn for empire wish at least it had better unit cards for its new units
>>550004614>ignore how he has the same cape, same sash, same armour, same shoulderpads and same backpack which is like 90% of the design, he USES A CHAINSWORD SO ITS DIFFERENTNGMI
>>550004857FotS.
>>550003551They'll be powercrept into oblivion by DLC factions and left in the dirt until Dark Eldar come out and start the cycle all over again.
>>550005076Yeah, tiny changes, like it always has been
>>550004182Definitely.We're going to see what's essentially High Elves with Ratling Guns running as fast as Daemonettes. Eldar are already a menace in every edition of proper 40k, translating them to TW is going to be nightmarish. And that's not even getting into campaign mechanics.
okay but when are tau
>>550004854Why does it scare you?Tell us something about yourself.Where did Grid UI touch you?
>>550005342>doesnt have the pearcool now show us the tabletop model for the necron lord, imperial guard commander, tau commander?we already know you got BTFO in a space marine 2 thread about the necron lord
>>550005413Well for starters your strawman has twice as many options as the mobile game UI 40k got.
>>550005612That's unit dependent, I picked ranged units for the UI in case more buttons makes it more obvious. Melee units have less buttons, because they don't shoot.
>threads countset>video memoryset>force affinity+priority post-launch scriptsetany other attila performance tricks?
The funniest thing is that Turin was so excited at the idea of tw40k and now he's just in radio silence mode regarding the whole reveal lmao. He most definitely didn't like what he saw.
I love Drycha and Rakarth's beasts
>>550005891I don't know what anyone was imaginingAt best it was always going to be a more busy DOW
>>550005889ToB assets swap?
>>550005540>cool now show us the tabletop model for the necron lord, imperial guard commander, tau commander?For what purpose? I'm not the one claiming that vidya can only have 1:1 model versions of existing models>we already know you got BTFO in a space marine 2 thread about the necron lordwhat are you babbling about?
>>550006040>uses the exact same images as he posted in that thread with the exact same argumentmaybe it was /40kg/point being: tabletop accurate designs are forced, soulless and corporate
>>550002297how do i recruit this gf
The UI shown off for 40k is dogshit but I don't mind them trying to mix things up. The current unit card UI system is complete ass for controlling more than 20 units.Ultimately, I think something similar to what CoH1 used for unit selection would be even more appropriate for a 40k TW.
>>550005891What is there to discuss? The game is in pre-alpha
>>550005891Are you sure you're not just assuming? If the other content creators got early access then I'm sure Turin did as well so why would he be surprised?
>>550005967nice, thanks>It might take you 30 minutes up to 2 hours in order to import all shaders from ToBhmm
So we're all on the same page, no one is deluded enough to think M3 or 40k is going to be good.Right?
>>550006125>point being: tabletop accurate designs are forced, soulless and corporateI find obsessing over this to be pointless. Bulk of units was always adapted as closely as it is possible with few exceptions. Characters being identical in particular is a nonissue.
>>550006252nvm found a pre-editidk what makes me angrier: ca for not doing this in the first place or anons who still complain about performance without taking necessary measures
I still havn't picked up ToT and reinstalled yet, are there any particularly glaring bugs yous are waiting to get patched
>>550005891>was so excited at the idea of tw40k and now he's just in radio silence mode regarding the whole revealI feel a lot of niggers here are on the same boat, after weeks of shitposting and theorizing it kinda felt, I dunno, flat.
>>550004475As opposed to vanillas "cast two magic spells = you win"? yeah, definitely.
>>550006248It's not about being surprised, it's about being utterly silent on the issue. Turin helps organize official TCALUK tourneys so he can't really say anything outright bad about them without consequences and when you can't say anything bad and have nothing good to say, you keep quiet.
>>550006483I haven't had any other than the same ones from before
>>550006387I don't think
>>550006387Me personally, am a fan of Total war AND 40k. So yes, Im looking forward to it.
>>550006387I don't know who still has room in their heart to give CA the benefit of a doubt. At this point they have to rise back up from underneath our sensible pessimism.
>>550006464Can you drop a link? I had the ToB thing done ages ago but uninstalled Attila since and the source I used is dead.
>>550004240>That's just e̶l̶d̶𝖺̶r̶p̶h̶o̶b̶i̶c̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶p̶𝖺̶g̶𝖺̶n̶d̶𝖺̶ entirely accurateFTFY
What are some good 40K games to prep yourself for TW?
>>550006641>good 40K games>gamesYou mean game. As in singular. And it's ______DoW2______.
Impfags are going to show empfags who the real masters of complaining to get your faction buffed are
>>550006136Just recruit after signing military alliance.
>>550006641>some good 40K games
>>550006567Correct - we know it's going to be bad.
>>550006387I don't get doomers like you. If everything sucks, why do you fucking come here? Why waste your time being miserable?
>>550004694>Dawnless Days>historical
>>550006626https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GTIjpOwBdwYeclTSbwgImbsBnLtEHsnE/viewhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1QYhQlYmIwxOcPlZ7U5oiJoe4Kx9IQCUM/view
>>550005824Melee units in 40K do shoot though anon, pretty much universally.
>>550006641Rogue Trader is excellent imoSpace Marine too if you are fine with shooters
>>550006387I thought it could be alright since what they showed is early development, then I found out it's being made for consoles and my hopes plummeted
>>550006489What are we supposed to talk about? We got 15 seconds of gameplay footage. We already discussed it more than we should. We're all waiting for interviews and dev blogs.
>>550006641Rogue Trader
>>550006641Dawn of War 1/2Battlefleet Gothic Armada 1Rogue TraderSpace Marine 1/2MechanicusAnd maybe Gladius just because it's cheap.
>>550006641Rogue Trader is a good rpg if you want to learn some of the lore bits. In terms of rts dawn of war games are there, and Chaos Gate Demon Hunters got pretty good reviews but I never played it
>>550006641off topicnot TW
>>550006641Final Liberation was the absolute peak of 40K games, and only people too young to have played it and dismiss it now because its "too old" will disagree. Commissar Holt gets shit done, in glorious acted full motion video cutscenes.
>>550006641Rogue trader is the most accurate portrayal of the setting, the devs actually learned the lore for that one
>>550006967>We're all waiting for interviews and dev blogs.Who are "we"? You and the voices in your head? No one gives a shit about more CA lies, people want to see actual gameplay and the gameplay shown was pure dogshit:1. Tiny maps2. No cover mechanics3. No interactive buildings4. Unit sizes smaller than expected of the franchises (it's called Total War not Total Skirmish)There's not a single thing to be excited about, no innovative additions to the franchise formula that would create more tactical depth. All we got was dumbing down of already existing game mechanics and reduction of unit scale.
>>550006568Fan of what part of Total War? The last mechanically true Total War title was Shogun 2 and I just never cared enough about Feudal Japan to amuse myself for an entire campaign.These games stopped being for their real, core fanbase a long time ago. Warhammer was basically Streamer Slop designed to make meme playthroughs using exploits.Anyone deluded enough to think we're getting serious, in-depth strategy games out of these releases is absolutely deluding themselves. CA doesn't have a person in the building capable of making accurate medieval battle-scapes play correctly.I'm not even talking about the politics of it. Crusades xpac, both factions were represented equally and made enjoyable for whichever side you wanted to play. This time if you choose to play any of the Crusader States every in-game cutscene will be designed to make you feel bad for even wanting to play them.
>>5500071782&3 are quite literally objectively false
If CA has been playing into Legend's hand this whole timeAnd Legend makes CA pivotThen Legend willingly made 40k happen by not forcing CA to pivot away from it
There has never been a good 40k game
>>550006387>Faction customization>But premade factions are still there as well>Different weapons within a single unit>Wargear options which visually change your units and their behavior>Enhanced ballistic system>Radically different campaign map with multiple layers instead of a Rome 2 clone>Complete destruction system which lets you flatten entire map>Destroyed terrain creates cover and damages nearby units, opens up paths or blocks them>Procgen is back to offer infinite replay value>Premade maps are still there>New engine they explicitly mentioned will be back to preWarscape levels in moddability, devs helped with caime tool>Radically different factionsI'm yet to hear or see anything concerning. Honestly dooming about TW40K looks very desperate
>>550007060>Commissar HoltWhat an absolute chad. No fancy tricks, no abhuman physiology, no walking tank armour, just a baseline human getting shit DONE. Modern 40K lore doesnt hold a candle to 90's 40k lore.https://youtu.be/7_EUtGgkfuE
>>550006641Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 because there is a possibility that we might not have space battle.
>>550007231No, they are true. Passive terrain effects are not cover mechanics. You cannot garrison buildings. It's primitive kiddieshit with zero tactical depth that cannot compete with games that are nearly 20 years old.
>>550006641DO BOT LISTEN TO THE FAGGOTS SAYING ROGUE TRADER THE DEVS HATE THEIR MALE PLAYERBASEThey deny SoB romance for no reason and the Eldar romance is humiliation ritual spiritual cuckoldry. Meanwhile women get 10/10 romances.Owlcat fucking hates men and loves shitting on them and the wishes of 40K fans. They generally have cuck/humiliation fetish bullshit in their games. They are spiritual semites and fundamentally anti-european.
Dechala has a cool palace, the only thing missing is a mindbroken Miao Ying scissoring with Yin Yin!
Rewatching the trailer I noticed one still apparently intact ork unitI counted 90 models
>no female generals in Dawnless Dayssigh>no Eowyn in family treeSIGH
>>550007262You're not wrong but you are very rude for pointing it out.
>>550006387Its not actually total war but thats okayIt doesnt have to actually play like a total war game to be a total war gameHaving total war branding is enough for meTherefore, its goty
>>550007315Rome 2 promised a great many things, too.
>>550006604There's no exorbitant profit to be made in a serious strategy gamer's Total War. Even if CA could and wanted to make it, they wouldn't allow it. Beyond the fact most of our political and comedy sensibilities are completely un-Woke, Gamers today are literally not patient or smart enough for the kind of long-term satisfaction a good Total War campaign gives. They will want to equip Richard I with Excalibur and solo the entire French and Arab world or they will refund the game.
>>550006884Deselecting units defaults UI to "melee unit" which seems to be the case for the trailer - no units are selected as far as I can tell.
>>550007345>romance
>>550007375I wonder how Space Marines are going to be represented at different unit sizes?Either way, as an Ork enjoyer I will appreciate sending my green horde to their death in the hopes of chopping some Imperials up.
>>550007315>concerningConsole release could be a problem if they dumb down the game because of it.Good thing is they have to actually optimize so shitty console hardware can run it
>>550007178>4. Unit sizes smaller than expected of the franchises (it's called Total War not Total Skirmish)In regards to unit sizes, isn't there a spinoff version of 40k for large scale armies using tiny models?
>>550007375Also, this blob seems to be a single unit, based on the minimapLooking at the minimap aswell, I seem to have noticed that characters (apparently the ones with a star symbol) can be attached to units and it counts as a single unit in the minimap
>>550007345Deserved
>>550007178Yes CA, makes entire new game for me alone, I'm that important.
>>550006753To commisserate with fellow like-minded fans, laugh at the people who Pre-Order and get a game they can't play for a year and hopefully be proven wrong.I was one of the Rome 2 Hype-Bros. I even managed to overlook the flaws of Empire. Now I am a wiser old man with a greater breadth of understanding.But hey, I hope I'm wrong. I really do.
>>550007315fyi the cover system was already in use in Empire and Napoleon. It just hasn't had a real use since FotS (where it was only used for garrisoning fortress walls).
>>550007345So, it's lore accurate?
>>550007416rome 2 delivered all of them and more its goty whiners and doomposters ruined total war when they thought the great content of sadhows of change wasnt enough and threw a tantrum demanding more and total war never recovered from it40k is already the best total war and its not even in beta
>>550007060>>550007324Commissar Holt slaps a governor for stories of his ineptitudehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiaJldR39A8
>>550007375I don't know if I'd call that intact, anon. The models are literally laid out to spell "DAKKA"
>>550007345>They deny SoB romance for no reason and the Eldar romance is humiliation ritual spiritual cuckoldry.MFW characters are actually lore accurate (SOB do not love anything besides Emp and Eldar could not love a monkeigh as anything more than a pet)
>>550007589>rome 2 delivered all of themJesus christ this franchise went to shit because of people like you, who think rome 2 is actually goodIm hype for 40k, but I hope it washes away the stain of shit that rome 2 did to this franchise
>>550006952Wait - Medieval 3 is going to be for consoles?Oh yeah it's gonna be dogshit.
>>550007569Even TWWH3 has cover system for castle walls.
>>550007315>Faction customization>But premade factions are still there as wellSo, are we getting The Space Marine Chapter/IG Regiment/etc like Daniel or is gonna be "here's the Ultrasmurfs, go paint them over and rename them"
>>550007690>The models are literally laid out to spell "DAKKA"WTF
>>550007517I would have thought Epic was a far better fit for a 40K Total War game (in terms of unit sizes), but who am I to argue I guess. : ( Maybe GW only wanted to sell the Legions Imperialis license and not the older Epic 40K games licenses so they dont end up with another "The Old World" situation upending their current game lines.
>>550007703Complete bullshit, SoB do have romances. And the fucking dark eldar twink has a normal romance with the femcel trader, but only Yrliet has humiliation bullshit
>>550007345Romance in RPGs truly brings out the worst in anons
>>550007690>The models are literally laid out to spell "DAKKA"I dont see it
>>550007315Half of these will make it into the game and a quarter of that will not work.The other quarter will be behind a paywall.
>>550006835Cheers bud
>>550007547>"I take what TCALUK says very seriously!"
>>550007345TRVKEThe modern crpg devs hate us.
>>550007402How much brainwashing does it take to become this much of a crack addict for a video game brand in 2025? I really wanna know.
for me its Tau
Eldar bros where you at?Im very comfy knowing that I won't have to wait and pay extra to play my goats
>>550007842>And the fucking dark eldar twink has a normal romance with the femcel trader>Normal romance>Look in>Master/slave dynamic
>>550007983does it even have a vagina
>>550007716Most anons can't recognize when already existing features masquerade as different features.
>>550006136>Be clean at all times>Never speak ill of her or against her>Never question or argue with her>Never imply or ask for sex>Never try to touch her without permission
Lords of the BotET Lords List1. Negroash2. TranquolObvious, I knowBUT, and make sure to SCREENSHOT this3. Glottkin (get fucked Crom)4. Valten WITH5. Boris FLCThe only issue is that I don't quite know what they can put in for the Empire to entice people to actually buy it. They're not missing anything other than Ulricmanii, Knights, More Knights, the Celestial Hurricanum, and either Wizard or Grandmaster lords. None of that feels like it can carry a DLC in 2025, even if EMPfags will buy anything. As such I think it'll be Wizard Lords, Celestial Hurricanum, the Elemental Incarnate of Fire, and then three knightly orders. Of those three they'll be Knights Panther, Knights of the White Wolf, and probably Teutogen Guard.
>>550004137Maybe, but I doubt you'd be expected to control more than 40 units. Its possible there could be bigger uses of AI allies, we do know after all that Guard and Space Marines cooperating seems pretty common(though I imagine there will be situations as SM's where they wont be there for support).I do wonder how reinforcements will be used, like Drop Pods. Reserves that can be specially set aside in order to call them in later? Brought in from the fleet, from a separate Army attached specifically to it? Or will they just be able to be spawned in if you have resources.
>>550007509Unit sizes probably won't go above 200 for performance reasons as always, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ork and IG with 200-model units while SM stick to single-digit or at most a dozen men to a unit and eldar somewhere in between.
>>550008063
>>550007771I assume its gonna be like stellaris>pre-made factions with legendary characters>customized factions without legendary characters but you can customize whatever you wantAnd I bet my tight virginal asshole that we will see shit like>Buy this pre-made faction to get more customization options!So there is a hook to buy the pre-made factions for other than the characters
>>550008157>Space Marines units will be the equivalent of Monstrous Infantry in TWWHCan see it happening
>>550008092The game is completed once Nagash, Neferata, and Drachenfels are added. We don't car about anything else.
dawnless day is too hard. uninstalled.
>>550007771● Personalise Your Army: Name your warband, choose its sacred colours, and emblazon its regiments with an array of iconography that strikes fear into the hearts of enemies.● Modify Your Warriors: Tailor your faction’s combat philosophy for both campaign and battle, arming them with your own unique fusion of devastating tactical abilities, signature traits, and arcane wargear.Realistically you can make Ultramarine/Imperial Fist successors here for now. For Guard it's just Cadians obviously as a base. And you get various traits like in games like Age of Wonders and Stellaris to select buffs and debuffs for your faction and a leader.
>>550007345TRVTH NVKE
>>550007983Wait a second...
>>550008157Since we already saw that orks go at a minimum of 90 >>550007375Its safe to assume that we will see wildly different units sizes for armies>Elite armies5-10 models units>Generalist armies90-120>Horde armies120+But thats a wild guessI would highly recommend CA to allow for lore innacurate unit sizes in the settings though
>>550008337Um, sister, you'll need Valten for the Luthor Huss Legendary Hero (Sniffnsmels)...
>>550008334>Space Marines units will be the equivalent of Monstrous InfantryChrist that sounds both terrible and also probably what will happen to appease all the fanwank GW has done for Space Marines over the years.
>>550008035Clearly yet not in game else they would make use of their assets in a trailer. Instead they had only a still image of one of their vehicles.
>550007589Bait used to be believable.
>>550008341Just use cheats
chosen are basically space marines and they arent monstrous infantry
>>550008515Marines being like ogres was one of the oldest predictions made for 40k though
>>550008143I wouldn't mind having reserves for later, many times I've been in a situation in WH where I didn't want to deploy a unit and instead I had to hide them in a forest or behind a raised terrain simply because they were badly beaten up from the previous fight. I'll gladly accept partial army deployment in 40k.
>>550008143There are a couple ways they could handle it>Drop pods are a 'spell' that just summons a squad for the duration of the battle sort of like WHF summon abilities>drop pods are an attribute of select SM units that determine how they arrive as reinforcements when they're the reinforcing army>SM deploy a limited number of their army in initial contact and the remainder are called down in gunships an drop pods via a callin button throughout the battle>SM have some kind of special mechanic regarding the planetary surface and orbital layers, like units stored in space serving as a global reinforcement army for any surface combat and those special reinforcements are called in via drop pod.Personally I think the last one would be the most interesting.
>>550008592Chosen wish they were Space Marines.
>>550008592But that's aspiring champions
>>550007589Rome 2 wasn't playable for like a fucking year after launch. What were you, 10 when it came out? Even when Emperor Edition came out, it was just about as buggy as Empire: Total War was. We haven't even talked about how over half the factions and units were behind paywalls on Day 1 and stayed that way for years.At least after a while all Empire's DLC just came with the game.The game footage we were shown of the Siege of Carthage was proven to be absolute lies. How in the fuck TW players can be such crack addicts when Medieval 2 is mechanically THE BEST entry in the series and moddable in the extreme is beyond me.
IT'S UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CgKwg5_clc
>>550008609I think that all armies will have reserves that you can call in, I think they are going for shit like>you have a 20 unit stack>but you can field 14 and call in reserves as they get depletedBut thats a wild guess
>>550008592Spess mahreen equivalents would be the champion units (wrathmongers, blight kings, the new slaanesh snake faggots, and whatever they'll make up for the Egrimm DLC).
>>550008483No. We want regular Drachenfels. We don't car about some bald guy.
>>550008475Just bear in mind that unit size literally has a setting adjusting it. For games with 160 model units at max size, they have 80-90 on the "medium" setting.
>>550008594I remember when every eceleb was malding over Ogres being a separate faction consisting of 99% monstrous infantry units. Here we are, Ogres are super fun to play.
I wish to peform sexual acts with elf women
>Play Guard>Basically run Panzer Battalion
>>550008732>We want regular Drachenfels.About that...
>>550008868>implying I won't field 20 basilisks
Are ogres the strongest faction in Warhammer? The only other faction they seem to struggle with are Norsca and elves, perhaps demons as well but I struggle to think of a faction who doesn't struggle with demons.
>>550008694What a pointless fucking video, we know what the factions might be, its the ones in the 40K tabletop game. Video may as well just be a fuckin link to this Lexicanum page:https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page
>>550008143>I do wonder how reinforcements will be used, like Drop Pods. Reserves that can be specially set aside in order to call them in later?Probably similar to how Domination summoning/those chaos realm missions work. They don't make sense in Fantasy, but do in 40k. Probably a backported feature/prototype. That other resource here might be a reinforcement limit. Why would it have a cap otherwise?
>>55000859240k has its own system of unit/armour type classifications.Most units (ie orks, guardsmen, eldar) are Light Infantry and take full damage from most weapons. Space Marines are Heavy Infantry, which is a relatively rare unit type that functionally negates most damage except for specialized anti-heavy weaponry that deal extra damage to them and less to light infantry. The dynamic is similar to how Large and Anti-Large works in TWWH.
>>550008962ogres suck big ass, they die easy to arrows
>>550007509I think Warhammer 3 was the first TW game they showed off the game on "Ultra" from the start. I predict that this too will be ultra unit sizes, but if theres an extreme size I could see if doubling everything up. However CA seems to be putting some effort into the cover system, so its possible that this will be the max size. 5 marine squads will be pretty crazy, can only get a full company in an army if you go for no vehicles whatsoever(Its always been a bit unclear to me whether battle brothers operating vehicles count as the 100 men of a company admittedly or if they are techs outside of the company structure).>>550007521We saw the Chaplain in the UI, I think that there will be command squads and bodyguards this time around. I think some of the biggest characters like Primarchs or Warbosses will be independent figures, but it seems that otherwise command squads may be a thing, which I'd welcome.
Christ, is this what the thread is going to be like for the next two years, just endless speculation about what the 40K game might be like when it eventually releases?
>>550008868I do wonder how vehicles are going to work. SEM tanks sounds nice until you realize that means one unit slot in your 20-slot army could either be a Rogal Dorn or a fucking Baneblade. 20x Baneblade doomstacks will be gay as fuck.
>>550009069Space Marines takes regular damage from plasma weapons right? >>550009094True but they also have plenty of tools to deal with arrow units
>>550009165Nah, after the 16th im fucking off until spring 2026 when there is actual gameplay footage
>>550008962Strongest faction is just Orion the wild hunt and being at war with everyone gives you some really ridiculous benefits
>>550008827>Placing down camps in space to eat everything before the Tyranids do>Doing shitty contracts for random factions 2 star systems away for piles of loot and meat-seed>Beating other Chapter Masters automatically confederates themOkay I'm sold.
Fuck it, post maps.Mod is WarCraft: Total War for Medieval 2.This was my last turn before the newest version game out. That campaign is nothing special now.
>>550008475"horde armies" would basically only be Tyranids right? And certain Daemons I suppose like Nurglings. I'd say I expect 90-120 to the cap, down from 160.
Our guy has spoken!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MDRUbkoQ84
>>550009165What would you like us to talk about? The uninteresting Fantasy DLC or Medieval 3 which consists of like 3 dudes saying they talked about making it once?
>>5500091651/3 40k, 1/3 Medieval 3 and 1/3 Warhammer fantasy. It's a general, how else would you have it?
>>550009216>>550009069Depends how they will translate the "save" in 40k (essentially how good the armour is) characteristicI assume they will convert it to a number like melee defense and armour in fantasy
>anons STILL butthurt over R2 launchleave the ancient history for the gameplay, not the game
>>550009051forgot picSo I assume it's last one from >>550008609It just makes too much sense. If they are sticking to 5 or 10 unit sizes from tabletop for Marines due to lore/GW autism then making Marine summons which disappear after the battle or even disintegrate during it doesn't fit. If you deploy all your units during one battle from a reserve then obviously you won't have them ready in orbit for the next battle in this same turn.
>>550009216Plasma is the definitive "anti heavy infantry" weapon type. It deals extra to heavy infantry but is less effective against light targets. There's also power melee weapons like Power Swords and Thunder Hammers that are specifically anti-heavy.
The strongest faction in Total War is the Ultramarines.
>>550009287Orks might go up to 120 aswell, its just that "Shootas" (the unit in anon's screenshot) can be lower in number than the "Boyz" (the melee variant).But horde armies would be >Nids>Genestealer cults>Imperial Guard>Daemons (depends)Necrons have swarms
>>550009392holy mobilemanii
Dude, I had a nightmare that Total War: Warhammer 40,000 was announced and that /twg/ got invaded by an overwhelming amount of immigrants.
>>550009392Yeah it makes sense to me. You have a "company" deployed on the surface that moves like a TW army and then reserves in orbit that you can reinforce any landbattle, but once they're called down they stay on the surface.
>>550009426>The strongest faction is (the protagonist)Woah
>>550009403That seem like a stupid design, plasma feels like something that should be just as effective on light and heavy infantry
>>550009118>Its always been a bit unclear to me whether battle brothers operating vehicles count as the 100 men of a companyThe Armoury is run by Techmarines, their novitiates and chapter serfs and is outside the Company structure, with the vehicles being seconded to specific companies for deployments. Rhinos, Razorbacks and Impulsors are supposed to be part of the company structure but then that doesnt make a lick of sense so its best if you just assume they're part of the Armoury too (even though according to GW they are not). As usual when it comes to GW and numbers many things dont make much sense when you look too closely at them.
GUYS HOLD ONWE'RE GOING TO GET YVRAINE CONTENT FROM SOBORO
>>550009573So fantasy fags are the original immigrants (native americans) and 40k fags are the european colonizers?
>>550009573>A great migration has come to our borders, demanding shelter from larger threats abroad. Do we let them cross into our territory or turn them away?
>anno domini 2025, gregorian calendar>adding LLs with only one piece of unique equipment>adding LLs with no bonus for completing an equipment set
>fast foward 7 years>CA paying 20 dollars+ tip for Spacemarine with shields and a DLC LL named Dickmonger
>>550009245Its hard to find Ogres hot knowing that theres a big ass fucking gaping maw under that belt buckle.
>>550009639>HistoidsNative Americans>Fantasy fagsEuropean colonizers>40k fagsLatinosKino...
>>550009751So just the same as normal women then
What I'm most curious about is transports.Most factions in 40k obviously don't march on foot across a planet's terrain to get into battles. They either ride in dedicated transport vehicles, or are ferried into battle from the air/orbit.How will they represent that? Will a Space Marine unit on the ground come deployed in its personal APC like in Wargame? Will there be options to have airmobile armies transported via gunship vs grounded armies? How would something like IG work, where a 'unit' ought to be a regiment of hundreds yet a single transport can only fit a dozen? Or will they just handwave that all away and make all infantry always dismounted all the time.
>>550009637Who gives a fuck, all his stuff is literally exactly the same shit over and over and over and over and over again.
>>550007842> SoB do have romancesSources ?ib4 that one BL book
I get that Space Marines are supposed to be powerful individuals but just 5 space marines per unit might be a little small.
>>550009041Oh right, the space dwarfs were added back to 40k (on an April Fools no less).
>>550009215I would hope that truly big units would finally get unit caps, but it might just be a matter of supply. If you have enough money you can field your baneblade doomstack. >>550008724That would be kind of gay. I don't dislike the idea of reinforcements in order to extend a battle, but lowering the amount you can bring from the start would suck. If it was an opt-in choice I wouldn't mind.>>550008609Last one would probably be my ideal, though #1 wouldn't be too surprising. Could also tie it into the fleet upgrades, where your starting fleet can call in like 1 drop pod and you can increase the capacity over time.Stand by that I really would not like #3 with the caveat that it'd be fine if it was a willing choice.
mods will save total war 40k
>>550009835I expect clown cars
>>550009637Nobody cares about yvraine
>historychadsEnglish>fantoidsScandis>40kbrosPakis
>>550009597They are "effective" against light - one-shotting them, it's just that plasma fires slowly and there's gorillion guardsmanii, while only 5 space marinemanii. So it's more "effective" against heavily armored units.
>>550009904The last Kain book
>>550009904>source?>NOOOOO NOT THAT SOURCE AAAAAAAHAlso they've never been mentioned to be celibate, so suck it, retard.
>>550009969Yeah I hope that stack sizes went up to 40 but you can put units in reserves to call in later like in tabletop
>>550007707>>550008665keep copingyoull come crawling back to admit 40k won in a year
trading one group of ecelebs for another
>>550009904Sob can have casual sex they just cannot marry
>>550010104>Also they've never been mentioned to be celibateImagine if Argenta fucked the Rogue Trader and then told him she couldn't marry him lmao
>Sisters of Battle are whoresuniverse-expanding "writers" ruin many things
>>550008092Wolf Priests as well, but after they do Middenheim, the Empire roster is basically complete
>>550010232
>>550009835I was kinda hoping when the Thunderbarge was announced that we would actually see them test out embarking/disembarking units in and out of a warmachine for this reason, but alas. Worst case scenario we can have WC3-tier transportation where one model touching a transport instantly sucks up the entire unit.The other issue is scale. Space Marines can get away with throwing 6 dudes in a Rhino and it won't look too weird. On the other hand, it'll be a bit weirder to see 120 guardsmen run into a single Chimera.
>Abbadon won't be playable>Gulliman won't be playable>The lion won't be playableDead on arrival
>>550010497Chimerae will be multi-model units too.
primarchs are actually pretty cringe and 90% of them are retarded babies
>>550010554I was actually hoping we'd get a theater of entirely OC nobodies instead of everyone using big named characters, there's more soul in that approach
>>550009501I forgot Shoota Boyz would be a smaller unit. Yeah fair. I do think Guard will be smaller unit sizes than orks; its hard to read but they certainly did not seem to have 90 troops per unit, eyeballing it I'd say like 60 troops per unit. Conscripts, if they're a thing, could be more per unit(though still that'd mean in that 90 or so tier).>>550009597If a guardsman gets hit by plasma, it'll certainly kill him. The issue is that is just one shot. A Bolter meanwhile shoots twice and kills two.
>>550010625>3/4 Chimeras die in a unit>120 Guardsmen now run into the last remaining one
>>55000916540kucks only get uppity when /vtwg/ Chads are busy. Post Clios, and witness true power.
>>550010554They are the ultimate money printing machine button. CA isn't going to release them anytime soon.Abaddon not included of course
>>550010554>He actually wants the Primarchs in his 40K gamesWhy tho
I just had an idea to how they could do naval battles without battlefleet gothic IPYeah it would be kinda shit, but better than >lets agree to fight over there!Kind of deal>When 2 fleets meet they become "locked" with eachother (think like besieging a settlement in traditional total war)>Each turn they have a decision to make, evade (which will disengage and retreat)>Fire missiles, that will damage the enemy stack>Board, which will force a battle inside the enemy ship
Drawchads bless us with some 40kino drawings!
>>550009992I just remembered the PC version is gonna have mod support from launch. So are they gonna be completely different games or what? My hopium overdose is that the shit we've seen so far is all console gameplay and that the PC version will be more visually in-line with the Total War we know.
>>550008609>deploy a squad via drop pod>three minutes later they all topple over dead because MPfags complained the mechanic was "overpowered"
>>550010871So a text event like in Pillar of Eternity 2? Fuck that.
>>550010678Everyone is more interested in named characters, people are so obsessed with primarchs that they want to fuck them, so they rule 63 them to not be gay.
is it just me or is the 40k campaign map look like the one from the star wars rts
>>550010431I think that'll be the point. Once the Empire is complete it will just be single lord/hero bundles like basedtek mentioned so people can still grab their Kurt Helborgs and whatnot.
>>550003124dechala marauders are pretty stronki think my usual generic armies were something like a few heroes, chosen, pleasureseekers, champions of slaanesh and they kind of mopped the floor with all sorts of armies i went up against up to long victoryironically the scariest army i went up against ended up being sayl with monster spam because that generic army is a little less good at dealing with thatslaanesh feels good to play now
>>550011045Not really, just 3 buttons to press when you select the fleetKinda like when you are besieging a settlement and you have the choices to wait, retreat or fight
>>550010678>create your own primachGonna make them women
>>550009740>TWW 40k and it's $600+ dollars DLCS>STILL cheaper than getting Tabletop
>>550011127Which factions are done with exceptions of special characters?
>>550009835Here's how I'd do it>Space Marines by default always have a transport and begin the deployment phase mounted in it>can dismount from the transport with a button>transport functions as its own unit separate from the squad when dismounted>both squad and transport have a button to remount, calling them back to each other>if a squad is lost in combat its transport disappears in the campaign map post-battle>if a transport is lost, the squad loses it on the campaign map until fully reinforced>an army still moves at full speed as long as at least half of its squads have transports alive>below that, the whole army drops to marching speed in campaign movement>IG have low-tier dismounted units for static garrisons and higher-tier mechanized ones with their own transports>Transports come in units, ie 120 guardsmen will have 12 Chimeras with 10 men each.>Same as before, unit arrives to deployment mounted and transports become a separately controllable unit when dismounted>if the transports lose models and you try to re-mount, the extra guardsmen will just ride on top of the remaining transports>if more than half of the unit has no transport, you can't remount>infantry can be garrisoned in settlements/POI with an air base>these squads can reinforce one battle per turn anywhere on the surface, arriving via callin inside gunship transports>the gunships persist for a while as flying units before being recalled to refuel/rearm, putting the callin on cooldown before it can be used again.>SM get the unique ability to do this but from space, calling down reinforcements via Thunderhawk and drop pod and managing which units on the campaign map are held in reserve in orbit.
>>550011216This. A whole ass race DLC for Total War is less than half the price of a squad of bog standard guardsmen models.
>>550010678I wasn't expecting it at all but I'm very pleasantly surprised at how it seems like every faction will have its own version of Daniel available.
>>550011238Norsca. All monogods except NurgleDrookiHelvesGreenskinsLizardmenChorfsOgres
>>550010497Maybe Chimaera will have a special ability where they can "summon" a unit of guardsmen out, even if they cannot actually carry them, and it'd be a smaller unit(like 20 models, if not 12 as per rules.) so its just a cute bonus unit you get with your APC.Alternatively, I think "smaller" vehicles like Leman Rus and Chimera would fit as being mutli-model vehicles, and if as I predict Guard units are more like 60 models rather than 90/120, they can probably fit in nicely inside 4. Though Killa Kanz being SEM's kind of makes that unlikely IMO.
>>550010678Yeah, as a Romefag I wish we had OC generals again if only so smaller scale battles can happen. Warhammer only has them for like the first 20 turns at most and then it's nothing but 20 v 20. I miss being able to siege a big city as I split the army and use a smaller force to simultaneously capture a smaller less defended town nearby
PUMP THOSE DWARVEN COCKS
>>549998926I wish a femtodes would crush my pelvis with her massive genetically enhanced ass.
>>550011238After LotET? Lizardmen, Empire, Vampire Counts for sure, everything else would be glup shitto tier units but there would still be decent characters to add. Greenskins, Dwarfs, and WoC also have some random grab-bag units that could be added but they would probably just benefit more from character packs as well.
>>550011121Empire At War is literally the only game to ever successfully do the "turn based strategic overlay, realtime space battles over planetary orbit followed by realtime ground invasions from orbit" concept so you can expect CA will be copying a LOT of its homework.Honestly, if this game is literally just EaW with modern graphics and QoL and a 40k skin it will be an enduring classic.
>>550011216>Go on the offical 40k store>Combat Patrol: Space Marine: 170 dollarsOh lemme sit my ass down.
>>550011130how do I enjoy playing slaanesh? in battle I just right click to victory without much thinking involved and I never last for more than 10 turns
>>550008694>>550009041
>b-b-b-but it looks like DoWYes, because they shown only Space Marines so far. It looks like Space Marines will operate on company level, so you won't have more than 100 of them at once at any given time. Horde factions like Guard and Orks will obviously work on a classic Total War formula.
>>550011540Planetary invasions aren't real-time, they've already confirmed that each planet is its own little traditional Total War campaign map that you march armies around on.
>>550011540yeah agreed, i dont think its a bad thingbut i barely played that game and even i still vividly remember the feeling of grandeur when you see that whole galaxy laid out in that intimidating grey discso if they capture that feeling then yeah, kinobut i dont really see how total war will do dawn of war any better or worse than dawns of war in battles, from the footage
>>550011216>Base WH2 & All the Lizardmen DLCs still cheaper than their starter setCA struck gold desu
>>550011701Man grey knights will be total cancer teleporting around the battlefield
>>550011505this.
>>550011621feels like that's just personal preferencebefore i mostly either played like monster blobs, pile of violence, ranged factions, so this emphasis on hammer and anvil and having good tools for it was nice change of pace for me
>>550006387for now tw 40k does not look good for me
when I jump an undefended city and the enemy drop pods in 12 squads of spacemarines anyway
>>550010074>>550010104>>550010259So your only source is one character in a BL novella contradicting the SoB lore from codice ?
>>550011802>he thinks Femstodes look like thisoh my sweet naive secondary
>>550003232poor little guardsmen
>>550011895this
>>550011801n-nani?
>>550011995Eldar have teleportation but Grey Knights entire gimmick is teleportation
>40k is announced>collective IQ of the general drops by 50 points
>>550009165Right, going back about ET endless specualtion!
>>550010810I have no idea who that is.
>>550012078Ignore him, he is a simp for a tranny vtuber that he swears is a women with a throat disease
>>550011995God Warpspiders are going to be CANCER
Space Marine enthusiasts are going to be fucking insufferable about balance aren't they? They wont be happy unless their squads fucking blend everything else.
>>550011995Psshhh... Nuthin' personnel, mon-keigh.
>>550011801>>550012038I'm more worried about how they're gonna make the Nemesis Dreadknight not look completely retarded.
>>550012213How is that different from the greatswords > chosen crowd?
>>550012078Just ignore xim, xe posts for (You)s and samefags so much that i'm not entirely convinced i'm not just replying to xim right now.
>>550011802>>550011505Gay.
>>550012168MP sissies will cry a lot about them
>>550012168>God Warpspiders are going to be CANCERas it should be. Then just when everyone is used to eldar bullshit, the Dark Eldar get released.
>>550009904>BLI just realized that people are going to be using this phrase all the time now and I'm going to misread it every single time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n8R7cezcCY>10,000 people suddenly playing atillaTHE PEOPLE WANT MORE FANTASY GAMES, DROP MEDIEVAL 3 AND RELEASE STAR WARS ALREADY
>>550012395You are a biological woman but I can't prove it
>>550011298oh hi Madisonwhat did you think of the Medieval 3 and 40k reveals?
total war 40k needs their own fucking general jesus
>>550011929>contradicting loreDo show me where it says Sisters are celibate. Oh wait, ya can't. Nice talk you clown.
No idea which one to pick because they're cool as shid. I'm new into Total War.
>>550011750Well, each system. It's possible I misinterpreted it but it sounds like the whole system is involved in a campaign at once, presumably with a turn across the whole system simultaneously. But yes its turn based of course on the strategy layer.>>550011729I hope we can specifically customize the companies for our squads, and mark them out as belonging to one. Also wonder if each individual army will be a company or if it'll be more ambiguous.Either makes sense; whole companies deploying is not unheard of especially for stories, but of course in other cases the First Company is not typically "supposed" to be deployed in one battle and other battles will specifically be partial strength of one company mixed in with troops from the reserve companies.
>>550012301You'd have to be a complete idiot to think that a Greatsword should beat a Chosen, though thankfully Chosen only come in small units.
>>550012268That model will be replaced or squatted long before GK get in the game (if they ever do)
>>550011995>can't take much punishmentThey will take punishment.
>>550012429Sir, I do not believe that Lord of the Rings is historical.
>>550012467>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS THE NEXT GAME IN THE FRANCHISE BECAUSE I DONT LIKE OKAY?Nah
>>550012470Pick Grimgor or Gorbad
>>550012213lore accurate Space Marines should be absolute power houses, but they should be low on numbers with long ass recruiting times, so if your squad gets wiped out, you should feel it in the next battle
>>550012470Top right is the most based.
>>550012395More than when we talk about Wahammer Fantasy BL book ?
>>550012268Ironically I think the Dreadknight will probably look a lot better in motion, the model's posing (for both the Dreadknight itself and the guy piloting it) is incredibly stiff and it completely fails to sell the concept behind it. And I actually really like the concept of it to be honest, but the execution was horrendous.
>>550012459You don't have to say that, just read the posts in previous threads and "figure out" which are mine if you think that's how it works like you're doing mow
>>550012519I whacked it to this like a decade ago.
>>550012562that's my point? people want more fantasy games because the lotr mod dropped and suddenlly attila has tons of players
can't wait to see anons /fa/posting here their donusteels
>>550012213Something to understandMost of the people who actually play tabletop are used to SM jobbing. Jobbing is what SM do.But a lot of folks can't get into tabletop because the models are too fucking expensive, so instead they just watch tournament footage and read lorebooks, and these are the kinds of people who will screech relentlessly about SM powerlevels not being "loreful." They don't really care about playing a strategy game they just want to roleplay and experience the stories they read about heroic one man armies.The rest of the 40k community has learned to ignore them, you will too in time.
>>550012657I haven't seen anyone talk about that, I thought that Black Library was just 40k
>>550012469>The Sisters are utterly dedicated to one task or discipline and brook no disctaction from their studies.That leaves plenty of time to get a bf/gf , doesn't it?
>>550012395Combat Patrol (CP) term might be in game
>>550012470>played warhammer 3 for 100+ hours>still get overwhelmed by which lord should i pick next
>>550012921I haven't played 100 hours myself but same, man. I even get overwhelmed by the fucking campaign stuff like building shit, etc.
>>550012301Those posters don't really exist anymore.Empire's melee roster stayed as bad as it was but the inclusion of even stronger missiles reduced the issue as now their gunfire can kill fast enough that it doesn't matter that an elite Empire frontline crumbles to Dreadswords. But yes when they existed they were really fucking gay and retarded.
>>550012771>hot pink prettymarines>pale blue and pink Xirnos>soviet guardsmen>chrome-shelled Jive Tyrant>pitch black NigronsIt's going to be a circus. I just hope they go all out and make it easy to import your own emblems and flags for singleplayer.
>>550012863Black Library is like publishing department inside GW for books
>>550012470Grom is probably one of the easier one among them.
If Astartes are 5 man squads, should Eldar be as well? Or do you think they'll be more like 20-30 mans.
>>550012867Show where it says they are celibate please and thank you.
>>550007345you got filtered you don't care for the settingyou don't care for the storiesyou're just a coombrained faggot obsessed with smut who is lashing out after game writers refused to pander to your fetishCassia and Kibbles are objectively better than any of the dogshit you like, so go fuck yourself
>>550012921>1500 hours in WH2>2100 hours in WH3>I still get fucked in the ass by campaigns
But I don't want to become another battlefield of the culture war..
>>550012823ThisAnyone that plays tabletop know that a strong breeze can kill space marinesIts secondaries and tertiaries that insist on how marines are OP as fuck
>>550012395You're going to misread Black Library as Borderlands?
>>550012731geez, you sound upset sorry Maddy
>>549998926I hate this fanfiction bullshit, wish it wasn't so popular with coomers and faggots
can't wait for the social media shitshow because of oc female marine customization
>>550013026Eldar are slightly more numerous than marines, so I reckon that guardian squads will be 60 ish and aspect warriors 10-20?
>>550013026I don't know anything about 40k but from what i've heard Space Marines are in small numbers and Orks/IG are horde armies so they'll probably be Helf unit sizes(100 for chaff down to 60 for elite infantry)
>>550013192women exist, get over it
>>550012894people might get that confused with CyberPunk!
>>550012863Every time people bring those Tyrion and Teclis books ?
>>550012921Same. I can't choose between lizardmen, orcs, norsca or chaos as a new player. They're cool as fuck.
>>550013192Sounds like gay copium
>>550000210Yea too bad DoW already did it and did it better to boot.
>>550013250I don't believe you anon? There is no such thing as a woman anon.
ITS UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkS9T2F0q0o
>>550000731Do the bong fags at CA actually think this is gonna do well or does the average dev realize this is a terrible idea and this is just shareholder nonsense?
>>550013019I doubt it'll happen since devs are always lazy and just make guardsmen all copy pasted Cadians, but Valhallan cosmetics for IG would be sweet
>Female Custodeshas official lore, official CGI short movie, thats more than some bargain bin chapter from the early 00's
will the oc donutsteel custom space marine chapter be daniel tier
Festodes are real, deal with it chuds.
>>550013509They have none of these. GW has literally already memoryholed this shit so hard it's not even funny.
>>550012429>Attila numbers go up by 7k>WH3 numbers stay the exact sameSo it's just closeted histfags who hate WH on principle simply because it was made by CA, but crave to play fantasy setting in TW game. Poor histfags, choosing to silently seethe instead of giving game a chance and have fun.
>>550000731>everything before it and FW is available for them to use.Holy shit you telling me we gonna see Shadow Spectres and Necron Pariahs?
SPACE. WOLVES. SUPREME.
I wonder what year they'll make it inMaybe even pre-purchase dlc if they get Henry Cavill to voice a shield captain
>>550013621GW really should promote furry abhumans to drive off more of the chuds
>>550013593Daniel's problem was always economy because Daemons are expensive and have terrible replenishment. Custom Space Marines will just be standard Space Marines which will only suck if Space Marines as a race suck.
>>550013593Yes except there will be 1000 threads on /tg/ and reddit discussing how they're secretly descended from loyalist traitor legionnaires and shiet.
>>550000731>everything before it and FW is available for them to use.unbelievably based, this increases the faction rosters a fucking lot
>>550013250>>550013336The Sisters of Battle are an entire badass army of women warriors who are borderline immune to Chaos corruption. If you want cool girlbosses, play them. I'll give you 3 reasons women can't become custodes.1. They're a female2. They're not a boy.And 3. and most importantly, THEY'RE A GIRL.
>>550013317Never seen someone say BL book referring to that
Custodes will be a faction capped T5 Single Entity unit like the Kensai from Shogun 1. Custodes as a faction never ever.
>>550013694Replenishment is one part of it but he also can never increase recruitment slots with tech/buildings/commandments etc, so much of it is gimped compared to other factions.
>>550013629>memoryholed this shit so hardJust like 70% of all narrative slop GW types out in codex's
>>550013629What is this cope
>>550013621I'm not falling for the gaslight, Trickster. Go tell daddy Tzeentch you fucked up again
>>550013673maybe instead of voice acting he should focus on getting that show of his out of development hell, no?
>>550011457I did a very rough counting of a guard unit we could see and counted at least 80 troops, not counting stuff hidden by UI. Assuming I did not double count stuff(I couldn't get a high enough resolution picture) I am wrong actually, they are 80-90 per unit. Probably 90 if they match with this ork unit here >>550007375
>>550013936God I want harlequins very bad
>>550013034I accept your concession.
>CA releases information about Med3 time period>histfags already complaining non-stop about itAnd friends, that's why fantasy will always win.
>>550013787Custodes are reconstructed on a molecular level so it doesn't matter if they start as boys or girls. That argument only works for space marines who are just teens with implants so you can argue the implants aren't compatible with an uterus.
>>550013509>They paid someone to write fanfiction to try to justify this slop>They got a shitty animation that nobody besides Bricky tier (((fans))) bothered to watchNot impressed. I can put a lot of money into wokeist fanfiction, its still fanfiction.
>>550013936>40k showAh yes, I want an entire series of blue spacemarines pointing at stuff out of frame
>>550013250as cocksleeves ?
>>550013221I reckon aspect warriors will be squads of ten, while guardians will be 20 men - defenders get two heavy weapon platforms per unit, storms get four special weapons per unit.
>>550013913Say it with me, there have always been female custodes.
>>550012057just like when total warhammer was announced
>>550014209Femstodes were an in-lore prank by the Changeling.
was this general always this shit or is 40k causing a rapid and sudden degeneration? Look at the absolute shitshow that is /40kg/ on /tg/ to see what awaits this thread if this continues.
i dont really care about any of this shit all i want to do is line up 500 of my little guys with guns and cannons and tanks and watch them go boom in a big line
>>550014060>Custodes are reconstructed on a molecular levelCorrect, so why would a hyperautist like Emps ever make any Custodes that are genetically baseline inferior to the others just so they can look like hot women? Female genes and DNA is predisposed to be weaker and more delicate compared to a males. He would need to entirely redo the entire DNA sequence for every single line of genetic code in this being, instead of just hyper-optimizing the already correctly preset male genomeI'm not falling for your musclegirl fetish coomer cope you dumb cunt.
>>550014318It has always been this shit, you are just annoyed that we are not talking something you can shitpost along with
>>550013026Depends on why are they sticking to those 5-10 units sizes for Marines, while clearly tabletop model count isn't the case for Orks. Eldar are more Elite army as well, in fact normally Aspect Warriors come with 5 models in a kit and are deployable like this by default, while Tacticals/Intercessors kits come with 10 models and that's their default so to speak unit count. If by GW orders they are to stick as closely to tabletop model count as possible, then Eldar would be similar yeah. But might be that just CA wanted to make Marines drastically different by making them hyper elite in particular. I think Eldar may have higher model count than marines just for gameplay variety sake.SM<Eldar<Orks<Imperial Guard will be how average model count will go I think.
>play kislev>empire explodes>dwarfs explode>bretonnia explodes>kostaltyn explodes>there's nothing left but the echoing laughter of the thirsting gods
>>550014128don't be reductionist, Amazon has the budget to get yellow space marines pointing at stuff out of frame and maybe even red space marines pointing at stuff out of frame
>>550014060Then there wouldn't be any 'female' custodes anyway and they all would look the same
I hope when they show off a female custodes, they make her a BROWN woman to, just to make you retards really shriek
>>550014330Best you'll get is half of them firing while other half stand there and the enemy you shoot at walks towards you/stands there and does nothing while you kill them all. (making the AI the mental equivalent of a barely sentient brick was the only way for it to run on consoles sorry, tiny indie company please understand)
>>550014318The thread has always had a few shitposters that appear and disappear as there's news. /twg/ always goes to shit when we get news because our news is so few and far between, people like the /vt/jeet have been trying to become a thread personality for a long while but all this femstodes shit is /tg/ tourists bringing their bullshit here.
how do I into chaos dwarves? I just got the game during the sale just for the chaos dwarfs but they have a lot of sub-currencies and resources to maintain. I'm guessing I just fight and conquer and the rest will take care of itself? Is there a channel or video that's /twg/ approved for noobs or that puts out decent gameplay for me to watch?
>>550014349Custodes aren't humans so female custodes can look like a hot woman while not being inferior to a male custodes.>Female genes and DNA is predisposed to be weaker and more delicate compared to a malesNot universal even in mammals, and custodes' cells are rebuilt artificially so the DNA argument is moot.
>>550014407Imperial hands typed this post real Kislevite comrades would say "nah, I'd win." and take the Old World back
>>550014330its gonna be a pain in the ass to position all of them with a controller
>>550014438no can do
>>550014462But h-heresy?
>>550014462Women and fags are never going to like Warhammer like hyperautist chuds do, appealing to these retards is going to bankrupt CA lmao.If they think woke normies who can barely function without THC oil and kids cereal are going to bother with a fucking tabletop roleplaying game where you have to spend over a thousand dollars and spend 10+ hours of your life painting all your little dudes.
>>550014509Zerkovich is pretty good for noobs, although he will mainly focused on mechanics.
>>550014407That's what's fun about Kislev though, it's like pre-ToD Empire where you just barely have enough resources to put out a few fires at a time but everything is on fire all at once. it's kino.>>5500145093 Outpost provinces for every refinery province.Gobbos with Gorduz are actually Chosen.Always be attacking because otherwise your slave labour will run out which will generate no minerals which will generate no armaments which will generate no Chorf units. Fortunately don't panic because running out of Minerals and Armaments isn't a lose condition.
>>550014509Colonel Damnders is an okay one for 101 stuff, but don't take it as gospelFor Chaos dwarves I tend to just have 1 mine for every 3-4 outposts and it's fine
>>550014696Unironically, that shield she has there, looks so much better than the one GW models have
>>550014509chorfs are worth taking the time to figure out
>>550013975I think they're in at launch with the normal eldarpretty sure they're not an independent faction in the tableslop game
40jeets status
>>550014895stupid fucking ahegao face I hate it so much
>>550014858DOOR
>>550014060>>550014521Then why do you trannies defend female custodes so much if they are not even female?
It's up. Cheater awards 2025!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4awS3EVKkWhich one is your favourite anon?
>>550014963Still shilling men with virtual avatars m'lord
>>550014403>basic dudes can fire four boltgun shots out to full range after movingWhat the fuck even is modern 40k?
>>550014521Then it would go completely against Emperor's policy of not making anything that can replace humanity
>>550014963>40jeets statusBLACKED
>>550014895Who's this semen demon?
>>550015059They're guardians of the Imperial Palace, so they literally carry doors around. It is symbolic and deep in meaning.t. GW
>>550014521Its a completely pointless change that does not need to happen, and only exists to pander to faggots and women. You can come up with whatever dogshit cope you want, but its not canon, and you won't convince any actual fan otherwise. Fuck off back to twitter.
>>550015149They can't replace humanity because they can only be made from humans through a ridiculously long and expensive process that requires psychic mumbo jumbo to be done to their soul, which they can't even do themselves because they can't be psykers.
>goldmarinesmaybe after over 10 years from now, after every main faction was added alongside numerous subfactions and CA has to cope and desperately start digging out minor stuff like now with bearmen or a ship company
>>550011216yeah but I wont own he game or the dlc.
>>55001496340troons are currently malding that nobody takes their shitty female palette swaps of established male factions seriously
>>550015426They should be like Medieval 2 papal guards, AI only and sitting tight on Terra unless player himself goes and tries to conquer it
>>550015310The good thing about this is that it's canon whether you want it to be or not
Woman
>>550013621Femstodes would look like FtM troons anyway, it's pure gooner fanfic
>fierce battle against Isengard>This is playing https://youtu.be/wOqyK7TbXko?si=dQnpD5lXo_SoSkLU>Some of my units stop routing>This suddenly starts playing https://youtu.be/bZacMZZgnh0?si=sqqgICPhW5dgoEJO&t=6I FUCKING LOVE DAWNLESS DAYS SO MUCH LADS!
>making up things to get mad about never change chuds
>>550015706>make chuds malding by existing VGH
>>550013629There's one in the new Scouring book. They don't shove it down your throat but they are still "canon''
>>550013629They actually re introduced femStodes in the (latest i think?) recent HH books, and make her cry.
>>550011130I added some pleasureseekers cause they're the best cav in the game and it works really well I will continue to add some more when I can
>>550014330>500 Best I can do is 10 squads of 5.
>>550015905Femstode memoryhole is the /tg/ version of pivot, some chud loretuber invented it about a year ago.
>>550015974based of GW not to back-pedal lmao, didnt think they had it in them
>(5/5)>20 units >an army is 100 marines are you excited for the smallest, least ambitious total war game yet?
>>550015706pictured: a femstode and her concubines(male)
>>550016376small indie dev
>some third party no-name author includes femstodes in his book (written before the memoryhole)>this means they weren't immediately memoryholed due to pisspoor receptionlollmao
Why nobody bitched about ogre armies being small the same way people complain about marines?
>"We didn't quite get to [customization] with Total War: Warhammer. We went all-out on this one. It really is next-level, probably more than any game for Warhammer we've seen," says Hall, beaming. "Just the other day, a customization guru was showing me that you can customize the fingers on Space Marines! That's the level of granularity we're going with this.no way this is real
>>550016460They have chaff. Was hoping for a faction of “bunch of chaff guard with elite marines” instead we got the tabletop, which is a bad influence on video games imo
>>55001637640trannies will eat any dogshit up
i had a nightmare where 40k total war was announced
>>550016618>They have chaffThe guard is literally supporting the marines in the gameplay you shitting at
>>550016635me too, thankfully it wasn't real
what in the FUCK is thiswhere the HELL is Galadriel?shes not in the family tree, either
the gender of a 5cm tall plastic toy can make men pushing 40 cry out in pain
>>550016659all I saw was a full army of marines though I hope you’re right. Might have just been an allied garrison or something
Is Slaanesh cult uprising bugged? It's not letting me target anyone with it.
>>550013317Actually I think I'm lying I remember making a joke about that before, sorry
>>550016749Look again, there is imperial guardsmen all over the footage
>>550008515Custodes (if they are actually added) will most likely be Monstruous Infantry-esque, you think marine bullshit is over the top? Those golden bananas are like a player in a musou game, mowing down wave after wave of troops. Imagine the Kensai of the first Shogun.>>550016460They are funny fatsos
>>550014407that means there's more for you to kill
>>550016618Why is everybody acting and pretending as if Ogre chaff is this holy grail of Ogre faction used longer than first couple of turns?
>faction unlocker Day 2https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3623142615lollightning in a bottle here, folks
>>550007345>Eldar romance is humiliation ritual spiritual cuckoldryGOOD, you're a fucking human you are a lesser being to her
>>550016460Because the complaining is disingenuous "the battles aren''t big enough it's just dawn of war" shitposting from people who watched the game awards and didn't get any new fromsoft news to cry about.
>>550016376>(6/6)>20 units>an army is 100 Ogres
>>550007345Get filtred, mon'keigh
They will bring back the drop in battles from Shogun 2.I WILL join your campaign and corner camp your ass lmao.
What's the verdict on dawnless days, is it early access .01a or actually fairly complete? Was mostly interested in the easterlings and elves
>>550017047The size of standard Ogre Infantry is 24 men, retard.
>>550016730They have the emotional maturity of 14-year-olds.
>>550017148>deactivate drop inwhat you gonna do now huh?
>>550016460Becasue it's not organic.
>>550015085>no Slaanesh corruption moddisliked
>>550017229but..
>>550017229You think CA will let you do that chud? Huh? Scared? It's going to be always online baby, you won't even get notified that a player is taking control of the enemy army. It will just happen seemlessly.
>>550016909Ogres are (16/16) I believe, those units aren’t even a third as large as an ogre unit. We were expecting 16-unit marines. Imagine our disappointment at getting more than 3xs smaller than we were hoping for >>550017047Ogre units are much bigger than (6/6) this is the smallest total war army we’ve ever gotten
>>549999459Genestealers should be before Tyranids, would be kino
>>550015205retard are you fucking serious?
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>>550016856Where is her buck teeth
>>550017242>someone took their time to make up this list and write it down, with bullet points and allHow can people get so utterly obsessed about something
>>550016914Yeah, that's the sort of thing they should have in those mod, since it's not something that can be done in DaC. Different Easterling clans being playable instead of only main one.
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>>550017317In shogun 1 you could have a 20 unit army totalling 59 men.
>>550017172Biggest gripe for me is that there are only a handful of custom battle maps so 90% of settlements are generic attila ones. I've only seen Helm's Deep and Rohan's capital with unique maps.I haven't progressed deep enough in the campaign yet to judge the big picture but battles work fine so far.
>>550016730>haha why do you care we deliberately shit up your hobby
>>550017457nobody actually did that, that’s not a serious response
>>550017305>unplug internet after launching the gameHeh nothing personnel
>>550016712future update
>>550017242>>550016460
>>550017438Thanks for backing me up mate, but I don't think it's necessary.
>>550017507If you shit your pants because a plastic mini has a paragraph written about it, you're the one shitting up the hobby.
>>550017507Its not your hobby, you're just renting it for your recreational outrage, tourist.
>>550013975They’d be a mercenary faction probably
>>550017242all I know is that this thread has been compromised by discords for years now, and that the people on those discords are some of the worst human beings on the planet, and that 40k kids could not possibly be worse than the community we already have here. gods I hate you people.see you tomorrow
>>550017687>literal no u responseLove to see it.
I hope to fucking god they answer real questions in the 16th and not just go with >here is our vibe, IMAGINE this and IMAGINE thatLike medieval 3We need to know >How will unit sizes work for elite factions>Are campaigns locked after being completed or can they be reopened by attacks?>How big is the planets exactly?>Are objectives present in every type of battle?You know, the meat and potatoesI dont want to know that someone in the design team farted weirdly and they suddenly felt like that would be a great aspiration to make deathguard extra stinky
>>550017649Ultra = standard, nigger.
>>550017742>invade hobby>make changes nobody asked for to appease people who don't play the game in the first place>accuse existing and complaining fanbase of said hobby of being the invaders I wish you at least could change up tactics just once. You've become predictable.
>>550018039But how can we prolonged the engagement that way?
>>550014614surely they'll use the 10 marine intercessor squads
>>550016730>gender and skin colors do not mater>also add females and niggs NOW!
>>550017438So it's entirely possible they were just using Small unit size for demonstration's sake with that trailer.
>>550018074???I said thanks for backing up my fucking point you dumb nigger, why are you insulting me all of a sudden? I fucking know everybody plays on Ultra because why the fuck wouldn't you.That's the last time I try to be nice on this fucking site I swear to god.
>>550018039>How will unit sizes work for elite factionswe literally already know that>How big is the planets exactly?A continent from warhammer 3 (lustria, ulthuan, old world)
>>550018039Dec 16th is the only bit of news we're getting until spring and I expect it to be in line with the dlc blogs but focused on one specific mechanic, probably the new 3 tier campaign thing
>>550018278>we literally already know thatApparently not, given that there is a lot of discussion regarding unit sizes
>responding seriously to this femstodes larperguys...
>>550018226No, since other units were very obviously not on small unit sizes, and they have literally never gone below large unit sizes for their showcases. You're running out of excuses.
>>550018404I'm bored and gotta wait for a download to finish leave me alone.
>>550018335They are retards, they've already said that elite armies have less units, done.There's probably some variation between different elite factions, but they're on the low side, it's that simple. Anything else is some schizo bullshit.
>>550018137That would be a valid point if you were the fanbase, but you're a secondary and in fact GW has only increased revenue after femstodes were established.
tabletop players are secondaries ITTtabletop is an archaic, outdated, symbolic representation of warfare that the age of computers has long since moved past.
>>550018751>the actual hobbyists are secondarieswild take
>>550018795This is a TOTAL WAR THREAD OUR HOBBY IS TOTAL WARYOU ARE THE SECONDARY
>>550018280Yeah its probably explanation to how the game will work in a galactic span, with some very big luck we might get new footage aswell but I seriously doubt it, I think its gonna be a boring talk show like soitek did with the bulgarians
>>550012213>Space Marine fans won't be happy unless they're portrayed accuratelyAre you stupid? Space Marines are one of the strongest forces in all of science fiction. None of the other factions should be able to fight Space Marines without coming close to losing, no matter what they bring. So yeah if they can't do this right then 40k fans will be upset - as they should be.
>>550018795What's really wild is that there is no polymarket betting for whether the first actual female custodes model will sell out or not (all in for Yes)
>>550018795Are you a Total War player or a tabletop tranny?So yeah, secondary
>>550018795Sir this is total war
>>550018751I play both tabletop and TW games, because Warhammer has pointy-eared women that I want to fuck.
but Im literally sitting next to my Custodes and SoS army they're all woman btw
>no caster reskin for Ranni in any factionrip
>>550019083>>550019073>>550018854I play total war though, why else would I be here?
>>550019085thanks for the blog, I don’t care>>>/tg/
Where is the moderatio? this general is going to shit
>>550019162Silence, or I'll start posting random things about Eldar now that they're relevant to Total War.
>>550016712this sounds like the Viet Cong faction.
>>550018795>hobbyistsyou men the faggots playing with plastic toys?yeah, they're secondaries
>>550019102based
I'm past the point of caring whether Warhammer games might be good on their own merits, every time one is made some of the most annoying fags on the site all mass migrate into the respective /vg/ thread and permanently shit it up. Fuck you.
>>550019152>>550019239If you’re here to discuss total war, then you’re a primary.If you decide to discuss tabletop in this thread based on its shared setting, you are having a secondary discussion
>>550012213Actually no. In DoW 1/2 SM were bottom tier for a long time, barely playable after DoW 2 launch, and SM players didn't make any significant outcry. Their players did change over time and may be less tolerant of this nowadays, but I wouldn't expect a lot, it's just that you should expect one (1) redditfag to make a whining thread about his meme-based headcanon not being realised in-game that gets XXX/XXXX amount of upvotes once a quarter.
You can't convince me that this female custodes debate isn't the discord raid
the fuck is a costode?
>>550019373So both pro and anti custodes people are the same raiders trying to entertain the crowd?
>>550019439Gold space marine.
>>550019373This thread is constantly raised by that discord and has been for years. I hate them far more than I could ever hate the new 40k crowd. I’m actually glad new blood is coming here because I hate this community so fucking much that it’s entertaining to watch it become diluted
>the gender of a 5cm tall plastic toy can make men pushing 40 cry out in pain
>>550019492Probably. Custodes aren't a particularly popular faction, regardless of if they have women or not.
>>550018256>why the fuck wouldn't you.Console game.
>>550016730>>550019565made for white men.
>yesterdayno gobbos, no happiness>todayGOBBOS GOBBOS GOBBOS
>>550019604Literally the cheapest tabletop army, theres a fuck ton of custodes players
I like Female Custodes just because it fits better with my Korean headcanon that they're bio/cybernetically engineered from one cell upThem being the sons of noblemen was always stupid because it made them just the same as Space Marines when they're supposed to be different, plus that draws a really thematic deeper line between the Sisters of Silence and Custodes since like the Custodes then would be fully created and the Sisters would be fully just born how they are through luck (good or bad luck) and so both didn't have a choice to ever become how they are because there was no "before" like there are for Space MarinesThough like you could still have that be just male custodes though
>>550019712How is twg going to cope with 40k not having gobbos?
>>550019745Literally the only reason to play them is that they're cheap. Even then most people avoid them because they're extremely one-note and boring to play.
>>550019784gretchin
>>550019784gobbos literaly show up in the trailer tho
>>550019439Human > Space Marines > Grey Knights > Custodes.
I miss when gold mines were a big deal.
>>550019862whatever happened to Grace?
>>550019880>grey knightsI forgot that they're a thing.
>>550019927They nerfed it too much
>too retarded to start out playing TWW3 after Prologue>can't decide a faction>get overwhelmed even by reading what factions have stats-wisei hate this so much
Imagine if TW:40k has WH3 levels of replenishment and when your custodes die you just get them all back next turn like your rounded up some farmers and gave them ten minutes of training and the banana armour
>>550019754Why would you grow that cell into a female tho ?
so female space marines huh, how about that
>>550020018Just pick be'lakor
>>550019878They're not gobbos.
>>550019373Sure it might be, but the online 40k community will shitfling over these sorts of topics without prompting by raiders. It happens organically even if they're left alone.
has anyone tried the historical fantasy battles yet? :^)
>>550020018I have over 4000 hours and I don't look at unit stats or understand how to read unit cards, I just go off of vibes
>>550020131AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
>its actually good that this unique thing is made slop just like everything else because it makes my "enemy" mad on the internet
>>550019984Grey Knights are so carried by their dope ass helmet design. Their lore and boos are the cringiest shit I've ever read.
>>550019085I wish GW would stop being gay retards and just make official art of fuckable xenos women. They've already got rid of all the stylization and body horror so now everyone is just ugly for no reason.
>secondaries this word was invented by the tabletop community to stroke their egos and make them feel special for being exclusive investors (paypigs) in the tabletop scam. Warhammer tabletop is portrayed as this elite club for patricians and their elitism is apparent in every post. Just look at them, coming into a total war thread and calling us secondaries without any self awareness. That’s just the sort of person tabletop creates, and it’s pathetic. They actually prefer that it’s absurdly expensive because then they feel more exclusive. just late stage capitalism things
>>550020338I wish that Dark Angels can stole their helmet and maybe put a pair of decorative wing too.
>>550020338>Grey Knights are so carried by their dope ass helmet design. True. It's easily the best helmet option>Their lore and boos are the cringiest shit I've ever read.Also true. Just another writer's pet faction that makes less sense the more you think about it
>>550020130Custodes books state that they are meant to be elite advisors and companions as well as exemplars for ordinary humans, can't have those be all male or else
You think that after 40K and Med3 CA will switch into mostly maintenance mode and milking them or will they try to make other stuff like WW2 soon after? They could realistically milk even those 2 titles for so long and I think trying release another big title without finishing those would result in diminishing returns
>>550018039M3 is in early preproduction, meaning they basically haven't started yet.40k is in full production, and likely entered production at least as far back as the beginning of the year, if not earlier. Hence why they're far enough along to show alpha gameplay. There's a real chance this game comes out sometime late 2026, especially with only 4 launch factions.
hehif it's this fucking insufferable after just a single trailer.........................................................i think....i miss ratfags
>>550020583>Also true. Just another writer's pet faction that makes less sense the more you think about itI closed the book during that part when that one guy is channeling his anime dragonball bankai against Angron and shatters his sword and explodesSo fucking stupid lmao
>>550020771I imagine they will try something like Hyenas again.
>>550020130Because it really doesn't matter what it is, plus Custodes are as much works of art as they are weapons, qnd you could argue that like the holy human form includes both sexesThose are both playing devils advocate though, honestly I prefer thinking of the Custodes as androgynous/just the armor
>>550020394They are fuckable. But not for (you)
>>55002085340k has been in development since 2022, its both confirmed by linkedin and in their talks they say "years" and not year when talking about working on the project
>>550020771After 40k, WW1 and 2 are only a skip and a hop away, but they'll probably hold off for a long while and instead milk 40k and M3 with years of DLC before shifting off to new things.
>>550020878>People happily talking about their hopes, expectations and fears>no one shitting on people posting dawnless days, which is the only other topic being discussed here>campaign posting>NOOOOO I CAN'T STAND THIS ITS SO SHIIIT TALK ABOUT NAGASH PLEASEEEEE
>>550021050Work done before the culling literally doesn't count.
>>550020902Doubt it. Hyenas was costly and left CA in a really bad spot. They're gonna try to play things safe for a long while.
Man, the cinematic camera in Total War 40 will be dope, though. You can't NOT be hyped for that. Especially if there's a dropship PoV? KinoooSTEEL RAINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnS3Zb8vuc
Legend WON
I hope Legend shaves that birdsnest hes got going on, its so distracting
>>550021164it's more the 40k posting.........plastic shop talk in my virtual entertainment thread......nnnn..........
>no ratfags>no legend>no voloundIdk anons, 40k is looking hopeful
>>550021404He has a permanent crease/headphone dent in his head that he's trying to cover up
>>550020018Play miao
>>550015389Why make one a woman? And no, 'why not' is not a valid answer.
>40k succeeds beyond anyone's expectations, making CA a gazillion dollars>They use this to fund their true dream project, Hyenas 2
>>550021551I don't like Cathay or Elves in general.
>>550021487>trying to cover upbrotherman
>>550021631Play Katarin
>>550021702Honestly if he tried could he save his hair at this point? Or is it over?
>>550021612SEGA wanted a live service gameThey are making 40k to be live service, there won't be multiple 40k games like warhammer, it will just be a single game they will update till completion
>>550021472>40K is looking hopeful>*looks at gameplay*Retarded tourist anon... I...
I'm never going to deplete the well of enjoyment that Hyenas has given me.Every time it's mentioned, it brings a smile to my face. What a gem.
>>550021834Whats wrong with the 5 seconds of gameplay?
>>550021869>>550021869>>550021869Move later.
>>550021612>40k succeeds beyond anyone's expectations, making CA a gazillion dollarsYea and then Legend stood up and clapped, and then slowly the whole room joined in, Trump called it 'yuge', E3 was 2 hours of CA rebuilding the game industry in every genre, Obama was there...
>>550018226What unit sizes would marines even come in? Like in universe oldmarines are 5/10, primaris are 3/6 (maybe?), the problem here is that marines often do split up into multiple squads rather than a mob of 24 or w/e, theres also thye issue of transports since most of them hold 10 dudes at most so unless they make each transport a squad I couldn't see it happening
>>550014509>fight and conquer and the rest will take care of itself? Pretty much.Slaves mine Raw Resources which get turned into Armaments that you use for all the good shit in the faction. Fight lots of battles and use caravans to get more slaves. Most of the time, you will be using caravans to buy more slaves, but if you're running dry on gold in the early game, use it for that.Just start off by having one factory in a province and the rest as outposts. I read somewhere that it's technically more optimal to have smaller provinces dedicated to just mining, and larger provinces for just factories, but that's a later game problem. Save up for Towers so that you can establish them in big provinces. You need towers to recruit the good units and gain Conclave influence faster.For the Conclave, don't bother with stealing seats that the other factions claim. Even if they take one from you, it's usually better to just invest in another seat so you can unlock higher tiers faster. Once you confederate them, you get all their seats anyways.
>>550021226>Slopposting
>Daniel customization which is completely out of place and doesn't fit with the rest of series so he has no access to items like all other characters in game do>Domination game mode/Chaos Realm invasions with summonable units and generating resources>All those horde factions which can build in other faction cities, make camps and teleport around>Directional armor system suddenly made for a single unit>Big TWW3 siege update with multiple areas to conquer and control and buildable traps, obstacles and buildings during battle, which make fuckall sense in Fantasy, but perfect sense in 40k as something factions can just drop from orbit like a turret.All 40k features either prototyped first in TWW3 or backported from 40k project to test
>>550021957Its quite literally Dawn of War but worse and even more dumbed down. Thats all its gonna be after they gut it to run on consoles.
>>550022136>luddpostingdo you know what happened to the Luddites?the British military shot at them until they stopped breaking things
>>550018912There will probably be new screenshots at least
>>550021702he shaved it a while ago. why did he let it grow back out like this?
>>550008063Can you not see it on their forehead?
Bretonnia rework some day, anons!
>>550019085>ywn be a captured Imperial Guardsman forced to breed Eldar womenWhy even live?
>>550000869>peaces out in 5 turns with half of those factions>fights ~7 more battles in the next 50 turns
