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Old bread: >>549995253

>News & updates
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/

>Resources
>Items
https://arcforge.org/
>Skill Tree Builder
https://arcskilltree.com/
>Interactive Maps
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
>Event Timers
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timers
>Key Card locations
https://imgur.com/a/s9YtLXR
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>>550090647
Xer game about trooning out on a mountain was a pretty OK meat boy clone but the story was really hamfisted
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YOU ARE PLAYING A RAT GAME
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>>550020269
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Someone post proof that the hidden karma system exists.
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>trying to farm snitches
>load up spaceport day
>no snitches
>"huh guess its a night thing"
>load up Dam EMS
>no snitches in sight
>it spawns me near the apartments 3 times
>may as well check them
>like 4 blueprints in 1 hour
>snaphook
>lightweight stock
>vertical grip II
>horizontal grip III
ok
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I think a nigger just tried to coerce a rocketeer into killing me on bluegate. Thankfully things are not my problem
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>>550095009
Blueprint spawning resets at the start of every week. You've confirmed it for me
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>>550094363

Art director Robert Sammelin said that the ARC Raiders devs “...analyse behavior and match accordingly.”

He said that during an interview with the Jewish company PC Gamer.

That's the only proof that we have on the subject.

Everything else is speculation from schizos.
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>>550096025
Welp
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>>550096025
>basic bitch "we are collecting data"
So it's a nothingburger
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>>550096603
Cope
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Blueprints you lose during expedition should contribute towards additional skill points
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>gunshots in speranza
It’s over for me bros
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Thoughts? This is with the +5 skill points. Not sure if I want to remove a point from 5/5 breach time and get the other mobility capstone or keep as is.
https://arctracker.io/skill-tree?skilldata=eJw9yDEOACAAg0CayP-_LC6ytLkx5KdHE2NY31Xz5AIGaABS
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>>550097351
It'd be nice if you get a handful of random blueprints based on how many you have at like a 1-3 or 1-5 ratio
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>>550097668
>roll stamina
Fight or flight works great with that but you don't really have enough points.
>raider scraps
swap to three deep breaths, it reduces your exaustion delay to ~1.4s instead of the default 5s.
>no calming stroll
>revitalizing squat mot maxed
calming stroll is ~20% faster in movement than a fully maxed agile croucher, so unless you want to lower your profile every time get that to move faster/regen faster in cover.
>sturdy ankles
abysmal dogshit, full-stop just drain all points to 0. Your death fall heaight never changes from 33m, it only reduces the damage you take in that range of fall by an extremely miniscule amount.
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Devs finally replied to my ticket to refund raider coins but said they are still busy. Gonna grab this if I can
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>>550098256
just bring stims with you
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Load up solo
>Turn proximity chat on immediately
>Announce myself wherever I go
>People have been extremely friendly
>I was talking with someone about how i needed reagents
>third party rando comes by and drops them by my feet
>Come in late to a bastion fight
>Guy gives me a drive and says he can pop hatch for me
>I solo a bombadier (i got the wolfpack blueprint) and someone snipes me looting
>I say "what the fuck bro" and he apologizes ( dismantled all the bombadiers cells that didn't fit in my safe pouch still out of spite)
>I pay the good vibes forward and help out randos with the bigger arcs and escort them to safety

Play trios with friends
>Cutthroat, shoot everyone on sight because they shoot me on sight
>Exfil is tense as fuck due to sheer amount of rats
>No one does proximity chat except to curse you out as they die/kill you

Killing a squad as a trio feels so fucking good through, especially when you reverse an ambush.
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>>550098256
>swap to three deep breaths,
Thanks, didn't even consider it
>>no calming stroll
There's walking, jogging, and sprinting. No one walks, you have to toggle it
>>>revitalizing squat mot maxed
I have it maxed now and I rarely use it, doesn't seme to do shit
>Your death fall heaight never changes from 33m
Interesting, thanks
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>>550097213
right like he said it's a cope
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>>550097668
Loaded arms is too good to give up anon.
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>>550098526
Stims are for general movement, you don't always get enough time to jam it up your ass or you'd rather use that time to pop a bandage/charger.
Also it's a utility slot that you can spend on a smoke or a defib for your team.

Mobility tree is far from the best but it has its niche uses, it mostly suffers from having to need to pick a shitload of garbage perks to reach the capstones.

>>550098663
>There's walking, jogging, and sprinting. No one walks, you have to toggle it
You also have to toggle crouch, it's just a matter of habit.
>I have it maxed now and I rarely use it, doesn't seme to do shit
Crouching actually reduces your stamina regen, 5 points in revitalizing basically just brings it back up to 100%.
That's why I recommended picking either both agile+revitalizing or calming stroll.
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I know embark has largely completely fucked up gear progression and risk and reward, but am I insane or is bringing a hullcracker I to chungus Stella a decent idea? While the rest of their loot isn't spectacular, every Shredder contains a Shredder Gyro worth 3k. This basically makes shredders a decent source of cash that the masses for the most part don't compete over looting. I tried a couple of different ways to kill off shredders and these three stood out.

>explosive spam like magnetic/trigger/impact/blaze grenades
It's effective at killing them, but it's expensive in terms of credit cost and inventory space to carry enough boom to kill multiple shredders.
>toro shotgun + barricade kits
The torro is the cheapest practical means of killing them, and can go infinite via looted shotgun ammo from shredders, but it is a slow TTK that requires appropriate cover and struggles if multiple shredders push you.
>hullcracker
Absolutely fucking demolishes shredders. Spare ammo can be safeguarded in anus. 2 hits to the lower engines will kill it, but pic related's kill report shows it's more like 99% damage from the first hit and token damage from other sources can finish it. It is extremely time efficient at killing shredders. The only concern is the risk of a nigger mugging you. In the chungus lobbies, that's fairly rare. If we value a hullcracker at 10k, ammo at 250 credits, assume 2 hits to kill, and assume that we only loot the gyro, then we break even on our investment with 5 lifetime shredder kills and can just bankroll a new one if we get mugged.

Pic related was from an ultra-late spawn on stella in lobby. Killed 2 shredders in lobby and looted some suitcasese that were within their patrol path. Killed 3 shredders in atrium and looted the freezer. Killed 1 shredder in sandbox. Checked control room. It was looted but I killed shredder #7. Extracted at seed vault. I think perhaps the reward potential might be worth the risk.
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>>550098256
>>550098803
>calming stroll
Anon "WALK" is different from Jog, you toggle it with "V" on PC and people already checked the math you do better just jogging.
Double check the work but it seems a waste of time.
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>>550098256
>>550099170
Oh you were talking as an alter to crouching, never mind
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>>550099170
>Anon "WALK" is different from Jog
Nigger I literally mention that you have to toggle it, I fucking know.
It basically comes down to how you want to silently move because crouch and walk have the same audio ranges. You spend 10 points for revitalizing+agile to move ~15% slower but having the advantage of lower profile or you spend 3 for stroll for slightly faster movement but a high visibility profile.

>>550099305
Nigger, I'm posting it anyways.
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>>550097668
Yellow is overrated.
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>>550098579
Accurate

I run with literal KOS niggers in trios but in solo I'm handing out the flow controllers and magnetrons I got to first for those guys that need it
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>>550099369
kek, I love you too nigger
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>>550097668
I honestly don't feel like the yellow tree is worth investing in beyond the 11 points to enter the tree and grab those two S-tier stamina perks at the bottom left. The extra crawl speed has some value in trios or if you routinely get killed by arc with that one survivor looter augment, but I don't think that it's worth the opportunity cost. 3 deep breaths or the over-encumbered stamina perk are probably more useful than the one raider's scraps. Personally I'm inclined to spend more points in green to get that perk that effectively reduces the weight of your weapons.
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>>550099369
Also yeah three deep breaths is a good one, and I only have 3 points in it
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>>550099660
Yeah it reduces your exhaustion delay by about half a second for every point. That delay is independent of stamina, so it is not affected by lower stamina regen from walking.
It's much better than people think it is.
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>>550099419
>>550098579
Do solos and groups have different MMR ratings for the chungus/brazil matchmaking?
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>>550099550
>The extra crawl speed has some value in trios or if you routinely get killed by arc with that one survivor looter augment
That's precisely why I'm taking it, I have the survivor augment and it's saved me quite a few times. I'm actually considering getting Downed But Determined in the green tree as well
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>>550099992
>DBD
It's amazing with survivor because what it does is basically decreases the hp loss rate when downed so your survivor regen has a much more significant effect when it's not fighting against the drain as much.
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>>550098693
I'm glad you believe the karma system isn't real, so you won't ruin my high trust chungus servers
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>running trios with friends
>load in to dam elctro storm
>Bastion by the plant domes
>We start fighting it
>Almost got it down
>Hella Wasps and Hornets show up
>Retreat back into building to heal
>1 friend gets popped by a hornet, hit by lightining while stunned, downed
>friend 2 is new to the game and ran out of cover and got shredded by wasps
>I make it in, should be safe, start healing
>Hornet hit
>Look around,
>Legit an assortment of 5 wasps and hornets made their way into the dome
>They down me

Did they update their AI or something? I swear they never were able to make it in
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>>550100139
After a quick google, someone on reddit timed it and it's def worth it with that augment
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>>550098303
you refund your coins and you're going to buy THAT?
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>>550099054
Is this post AI generated?
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>>550100413
I like the big jackets. I just hope this doesnt have yoga leggings like cresta
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Alright, updated tree. Plan on running survivor augment pretty much all the time so the crawl speed and crawl health skills are non-negotiable.
https://arctracker.io/skill-tree?skilldata=eJwlh4EJADAMg2KH_7_clEmECD4JhhTNPfNRB9pdXQdiAFI
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>>550013207
I did it again
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>>550100678
You are very bad at identifying AI generated shit.
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So Helldivers 2 was fun and it was PvE only, couldn't they have made what they have now PvE but more Arc/harder so you can find shit to make for PvP afterwards? Like in a PvP map/arena type deal with teams or solos idk. I like the game a lot but damn sometimes it's just not fun. Oh well I'm not a nigger so I don't have a desire to steal shit, moving on.
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>>550100139
You can just go and practice hitting w key in rhythm with survivor heal ticks
Allows you to crawl around without spending 10 minutes in bushes regenerating health
You are welcome
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>>550100962
They could have, but slapping in PvP was the lazy approach.
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>>550100962
>HD2
>make PvE harder
Reddit whined to delete any form of challenge or gameplay depth from that, the PvP tag is probably the sole thing that keeps this game together from the dumb niggers coercing the devs to make it a husk of its former self.
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>>550099369
The crouch one is actually worse not even on a points value, but because you need to stop moving to get the benefit
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>>550100721
Vaults on vaults on vaults is a good perk
I don’t care I spend 38 points in mobility every wipe
I like prolonging fights, running around with flanking augments and stalling, vaulting is useful
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>>550101001
Yes, but you can do that even more efficiently with the perk, retard.
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>>550101134
Adding more pve on top and fixing player damage would make the game good. Unless you like deleting people in under 2 minutes behind their back
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>>550101134
It's already pathetically easy, no where near as challenging as Helldivers. I would be into the PvP if it was more of an arena type deal with teams like 5v5 or something, maybe Rainbow Siege Six style prepping traps and shit in some arena like gladiators cause you got beef to go with the story, any other kind of PvP would be better than this, neither PvP or PvE is satisfying at the moment.
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>>550101241
You might be braindead retarded
IF YOU HIT W IN RHYTHM YOU DON’T NEED TO STOP SO IT’S FUCKING USELESS
It’s also gorillion points deep in the worst of the 3 trees
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>>550101296
Meant seconds. I'm tired
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>>550100962
What’s the point of PvE only content
It’s pointless
If you can’t get shot, camped etc you just waste time grinding
The thrill is the constant angst
Why do people struggle to understand such a basic fucking idea
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>>550101349
>he hits 100 frame-perfect taps in a row
You must be good at fighting games. You're still gonna lose HP on longer crawls no matter how hard you try.
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>>550101481
Angst? Nigga it's a fuckin video game. The worl, the guns, the style, the movement, I like a lot of what this game does but it's unsatisfying is all I'm saying. HD2 was satisfying. This game offers no challenge.
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>>550101486
It’s mostly a keyboard thing
I know because I have over 6k hours in Apex and I was hitting superglide once every three tries on 240hz on topre keyboard
Once I switched over to wooting I almost never fucked it up unless I panic
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It is done. I somehow managed to farm 3.3m in like 3 days.
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>>550101296
Yeah that's pretty much what should be done.

>>550101325
>ARC PvE is easier
You have no idea what they did to HD2 over the last year, it's simply sad.
>arena
Nah, the ambiguous social interactions is what keeps this game unique, big no to any amounts of player segmentation.
Besides, the finals is literally right there.
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>>550101586
>Nigga it's a fuckin video game
What’s your point?
Winning in a fast paced BR like Apex feels like nothing even in high ranked
Winning chicken dinner in PUBG still raises BPM even street thousands of hours
The stress induced by the possible loss and the state of high alertness is the thing you look for, not the handholding PvE lobbies wholesomely taking down the hecking queen
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>>550101590
>Apex
>superglide
>wooting
0 idea what any of those mean.

I'd honestly want to see a vid of you doing it frame perfect crawls for a longer stretch; if you can push the human limits there, good for you.
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>>550101756
>It’s good because it’s bad!
You should kill yourself
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>>550098303
>that telephone
The enemy stand could be anywhere
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>>550101648
The rocketeer is probably a bigger threat than anything within helldivers. The ARC in general have potential to be a challenge if they actually started being deployed in force to complement each other instead of just being encountered piecemeal. Imagine if a bastion had you pinned behind cover while a couple of shredders and hornets pushed your position.
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>>550101648
>>550101812
there's nothing socially ambiguous about acting like a nigger. you're just annoying
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>>550101925
Cant happen, carebears would lose all their lush blooms
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>>550101902
It is the most ammo efficient light ammo weapon.
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>>550101910
YO PHON LINGING
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>>550102016
>le chungus
Go back to HD2 nigger
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>>550102016
I don’t act like a nigger, I met some niggers who throw don’t shoot sliding around the corner with il toro
I just shoot everyone but if hear a carebear crying he doesn’t have a gun or whatever I usually emote “no” to let him get the fuck out or crack a retard
>Congrats on getting a free kit
I don’t care, I am not playing this to handhold retards also you probably have some metal parts I will need those for the stitcher
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>>550101812
My point is if you're angst or stressing what the fuck is wrong with you? You don't lose anything just keep trying and you'll get whatever you need to get done eventually.

>>550101648
I have not kept up with HD2 but around the start it was satisfying. Not just arena, there should be multiple types of way to play the game, I'm just shootin out ideas for discussion. This got stale fast and adding little pathetic shit like snow isn't gonna keep the game alive.
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Why is everyone in the general so angry?
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>>550102441
>there should be multiple types of way to play the game
There's already enough variance between playstyles or different objectives within a single match, everything from stealth looting to PvP, PvE, ratting, trapping, and other social shit.
An extraction shooter does not need extra gamemodes, it only needs to reinforce the already existing ones within the singular gamemode.
ARC needs to be harder and PvP needs to be a bit less lethal and you're gonna see a lot of improvement in the ways people play the game.
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>>550102441
Are you ESL? I can’t parse what you are trying to say
If you had to manually select to go PvPing this would completely kill any dynamic of feeling danger
Traversing to the last air shaft with stacks of everything you need is nice because it elevates your heart rate
If you can go and waste time clicking buttons with no risk what’s the fucking point
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>>550101481
>The thrill is the constant angst
Holy fucking autism
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>>550102612
because the game is dogshit and a complete failure and is nearing eos with only 300k daily concurrent players
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Allow me to fix the game and end ratniggers in one fell swoop.

>New Mk3 Looting Augment:Revenger
>Same stats as looting mk2 except no trinket slots but two safe slots and one extra weapon storage slot(not usable). Can only use heavy shields.
>Deal 50% less damage against other players
>Take 80% less damage from other players until you shoot another player(CD: 2 minutes)
>When shot by another player you deal 100% PvP damage against that player for one minute and he is tagged.

There game is fixed, shame Sweden is too retarded.
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>>550102612
Someone called me a carebear
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>>550102756
Never balance a game in your life.
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>>550102756
It’s so broken this must be bait
Everyone would run this for pvp advantage and actual pvp confrontations would turn even more into triggernade spam
Is this general general audience just retards and gamer dads?
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>>550102706
>300k daily concurrent players
isnt that a lot?
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>>550102664

>>550102664
Pretty much what this guy said. You're a fuckin weird autist and you're abnormal.

>>550102656
Oh my bad I didn't know we had the extraction shooter dictator up in here. Weird fuckin faggot.
>social shit
Super faggot.
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>>550102612
Not angry, just disappointed.
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>>550102682
I mean, maybe it’s just me, I have a resting bpm of ~45 so anything stress inducing feels nice
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>>550102756
>Looting augment: trap card
>+50% damage resistance while looting and interacting with extraction terminals
>when you receive combat damage from a player while looting or interacting with extraction terminals, emit a flashbang that aimpunches the assailant
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>>550102612
It’s an act
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>>550103029
>social ambiguity isn't the game's strength
Straight up kys
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>>550103129
>those runes
Why are you ukrainian
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>>550103269
You're a pathetic bitch, didn't realize you fucks were this weird. I guess it's my bad for just treating it like a fuckin game and not some life altering deep shit or whatever the fuck you have up your ass.
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>>550103413
>whatever the fuck you have up your ass
Snap hook and second stack of trigger nades
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>>550098303
that solar panel could probably power that random camera for about 10 seconds if left out to charge for a full day
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>>550103413
>it's just a game
No matter how delusional you are, you can't design games with that mindset alone.
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>>550102898
How is broken? You are nerfed if you PVP and only get benefit if you are attacked first. That 80% damage reduction would go away if you are the instigator, so you would be double nerfed at that point.
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>>550103246
Honestly would like to see this in the game, imagine rat tears.
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>get knocked to 20th place in 2x promo
>go into EMS Blue Gate with a free kit
>go into the tunnels where the Bastion is
>find a weapon crate with a Wolfpack
>there was another guy there but he disappeared
>throw the nade
>run to extract, someone is there
>shit
>run towards another extract but snitch nearby is spotting someone
>run back and manage to extract in the first one
>moved from 20th to 18th
Welp, hopefully this is will be enough...
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>>550072642

What do you think of having some sort of in-game 'scanner' (taking the idea from Cyberpunk2077 as I'm playing that at the moment) which gives you some idea of a raider threat level, or some other metric to gauge trust? It would only work if it doesn't require consent and is invisible to others i.e. other players can't know they're being scanned, as if there's an item you hold that holsters your weapon, then cunts will just shoot you as you're scanning them and this doesn't solve the problem of betrayal and players preying on trusting players. it could be a weapon attachment potentially, or an augment, so players can see you have a scanner equipped but won't know it's/when it's actively happening. the factions concept could play into it.

pardon the 6 gorillion hours in gimp example photo with shit ripped from CP/AR screenshots
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>>550103790
Everyone would run this and that in turn mean when people want to kill your they HAVE to kill you before you turn around and light them up
This would mean nature of pvp would change direct confrontation/assault/window of opportunity attacks to discrete stalking/camping only
So it literally achieves the opposite of what you want this to do
You are missing the point by a huge margin: players want to kill other players, there are always means to an end but since regular attack is no longer a valid option on the off chance the opponent wears this augment (he does) you instead wait around until he is busy and chuck two trigger nades, then finish them up with a stitcher
Every engagement would be even more lopsided
This also affects regular players, most players just play the game but now even when you are not camping you’re direct confrontation is essentially a death wish if the opponent wears the augment (he does) so instead you resolve to camping him instead to increase the chances of success
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>>550102756
Anons really do get dumber and yet more confident by the day.
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>spawn late on a map
>dead body where spawn is
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or just remove incentives to pvp
>looting mk3 augment
>death acidifier: automatically destroys equipped gear (weapon, shield) and turns all bag items into damaged versions of themselves
remove the loot incentive to pvp and see if people still kill each other
>they'll just do it for fun and to spite others then!
good, that's what pvp should be exclusivelt about
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>>550103129
Why aren't you on the frontlines?
Plenty of stress there
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>>550104814
Kek
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>>550104814
kek
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>>550104665
I am fine with this one on one condition
Given purple items in this game might have drawbacks I assume it’s only fair to put some sort of drawback on this powerful spiteful augment too
>Given the unstable nature of acid compound this is the only augment that loses durability with use
>Semi random durability burn up to 50 percent, depending on how much loot you have and how much you were shot at during round
>If you extract and it breaks in Speranza, you stash turns into damaged versions, all weapons and augments are broken
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>>550105137
Alternatively if it breaks from durability burn your raider dies from acid burns (wipe)
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>>550104609
That's normal. Means someone was doing a naked run and got a bad spawn.
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>>550104665
>good, that's what pvp should be exclusively about
Where did you get this from?
I click better so I deserve to get fruits on your looting session and you get to have doing it all over again!
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>>550104665
pvp is fine, its the TTK and the complete lack of being rewarded for risking anything that is not
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After reaching 5m, I don't wanna go into Stella again for 2 weeks.
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>>550105334
But unironically.
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>>550105775
After reaching 5m I don’t even want to play this shit anymore. Trials are shit, loot is useless, and if I ever shoot back at a nigger I get stuck in nigger hell matchmaking for 30-40 minutes. If something doesn’t change with cold snap I’ll just uninstall.
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>>550106195
How I feel too, I even got escape from tarkov but i'm not enjoying it. It's got the stupidly low ttk issue too and ontop of that it pairs solos with groups so sometimes you're just fucked especially if they're geared and it's got a lot of cheaters
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So if I shoot at someone who shoots at me I'm now stuck with retards for defending myself?
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NGL, I regret buying this game already. Every time I open Steam and see it my library I think: I don't wanna play it, but I should if I want to get my money's worth.
I'm about to spend some money on a gacha next week, and you might say that it's a waste, and all of it will be gone when the servers close. But I don't see it as an "investment", it's like treating myself to a nice meal. You don't complain that food turns to shit the next day, you simply enjoy the taste at the moment.
But playing this game feels like a chore. Like by playing it, I'm paying off a debt. It's not fun. Not in its current state.
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>>550106195
The main reason I'm wiping is because the current meta is garbage, so it might be the best time to do so. I farmed so many BPs but I don't use 98% of them as a solo player. Why would I craft Ospreys, Torrentes, Venators (I know it's good, but it's not cost effective) blue/pink attachments etc.? To use on measly a Stitcher/Ferro loadout? There's a 0% chance I'll do the expedition a second time if you need to hoard stash value again, and if they don't fix the balance soon and make better gear stronger in PvP then I'll probably drop the game. Sadly BF6 is shit as well and bleeding players like crazy due to (again) incompetent devs.
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>>550106751
I'm really hoping that the cold snap update comes with the much needed pvp balance pass, i'd also like a higher arc presence and new types but i'm not expecting that but surely I hope they fix the ttk and the dead in the water gear progression before they go on their vacation
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>>550106751
Well the devs for Arc came from Frostbite so no surprise they're shitting it too. This game is holding up now but I'm sure by January it'll be done at this rate. A lot of big streamers are already not playing it.
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>>550107318
Highly doubt that we're gonna get a balance update this month, sadly. They've allowed the trash meta to go on since release, and now that we're so close to Christmas they probably only run a skeleton crew at their office.
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Rate my augment idea
>Instantly deploys a smoke at your feet when shot by another player out of the 90 degree angle of your view. Marks their last location that fades away in 7 seconds(team mates cant see this)
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>>550107520
my line of thinking is just that cold snap is about a week or so from the second season and so logically it'd be a good time to try and implement the balance pass before season 2 kicks off, that way they get about a week to see the effect of the balance changes but then again they're swedes and haven't shown that level of foresight so far so maybe i'm giving them too much credit
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>>550108001
Still don't get the idea of cold snap. Are they just gonna be timed like night raids after the seasons or something
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>>550106172
Just got it from trials from queen as well
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>>550106474
Why kvetch about it here instead of just walking away? You make bad decisions sometimes, best things to do is to accept them and move on.
Oh wait you're a fucking retard, never mind.
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>>550108392
I hope it will be limited visibility, persistent footprints and cold status effects that will freeze your ass off if you're not moving or under a roof or some kind..
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>>550108663
Will they be permanent during the active time introduced to all maps though or what
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I don't know how often you guys play with randoms in trios but it is crazy how fucking dumb these players are. They will NEVER shoot at any ARC enemy no matter how threatening it is to them/your team. Like 3 hornets can be circling them firing and they won't shoot even once at them. It's nuts, like, dude, DO SOMETHING
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>>550109134
>play with randoms in trios
Why would you ever put yourself at such a HUGE disadvantage?
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>>550104281
Ok whats stopping players from doing what you described now? People can do all of what you said right now, hell many rats play just like that(see Matriarch campers) All my augment does is gives a way for passive players to be passive and have protection from getting destroyed while unaware. If Triggernades are the problem then that's just a problem with the equipment.
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>>550109134
Most consoleniggers are waiting for you to die so they can grab your shit, especially in chungus lobbies.
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>>550109316
To try something new. I like to go in "kitted" with weapons that are about to break (say, a Torrente 1 at 50 durability) to try and use it or lose it and get loot that way.

But god damn its crazy. Had a dude who had good loot and was honestly good at the game overall rush 3 people (for some reason) and then die. Gets on mic and says "where the fuck are you guys??!" as if were supposed to magically know hes going to rush 3 niggas inside a building up a staircase. Gets himself killed for no reason then blames his team instead of just... not killing himself
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What is a chungus lobby?
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>>550110769
le wholesome 100 chungus lobbies are where you get put into if you are constantly friendly and never engage in pvp
as opposed to bad girl matchmaking lobbies, where everyone shoots each other on sight and gangs of female raiders will ambush you and rape you after stealing all your loot
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>Big and lil smokes
>Blaze nades
>Shrapnel nade (switch springs for metal parts)
>snap blast
>light sticks
>explosive compound itself
All of these need a serious reduction in crafting cost.
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>>550111376
>>Shrapnel nade (switch springs for metal parts)
you don't understand. Superior Swedish engineering needs those springs to make the shrapnel go BOING
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>>550111376
>Big and lil smokes
They're fine.
>Blaze nades
I'd rather buff fire a bit.
>Shrapnel nade (switch springs for metal parts)
Yes.
>snap blast
Yes.
>explosive compound itself
No.
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>Kettle 4
>Shoot a guy and break his shield before he even shoots back at me once
>Hit him with every single round, literally every single one
>He shoots back and kills me before I kill him (also used a Kettle 4)

I do not understand this game. I genuinely think the game just denies some of your shots. Like you actually deal 0 damage. He had a faster trigger finger than me, cool. Its not that I'm mad I died, I'm mad the game just doesn't seem to function. How could I possibly have shot him so many times first, broke his shield first, hit him with every round I could possibly have shot, and didn't kill him? It's just not really possible unless the game for some reason didn't count most of my hits as damage
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>>550112575
https://cpstest.org/
post it for the sake of science.
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>cp test
very bold pf you mr fed
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>he hasn't unlocked the secret Arc Moon HQ map yet
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Is everyone who is complaining about PvP self reporting that they're being put in low trust lobbies?
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just lost 4 IV Il Toros because a pop was completely silent until it already jumped on top of me while I was being accosted by 4 arcs on Stella. fuck this game and it's utter dogshit audio. this happens so often
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>>550090647
You will never be a real extraction shooter. You have no chase, you have no progression, you have no thrill. You are a battle royale twisted by persistent loot and PvE into a crude mockery of Escape from Tarkov. All the praise you get is uninformed and half-hearted. Genre veterans are bored and unimpressed, "fans" play 2 hours a week and don't know any better.
Power gamers are already done with you. Thousands of hours in other games have allowed nolifers to abuse bad design choices with incredible efficiency. Even aspects that “work" look half-assed and flawed to anyone who has played a videogame before. Your risk-reward structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a million normies to buy in, they'll turn tail and bolt the second you attempt to require some effort in order to try and give your game longevity.
You will never last. You wrench out a shitty cosmetic every single week and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel irrelevance creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually the honeymoon will be over - casuals will move on to the next shiny thing, nolifers will get bored. Nexon will put you on life support, relieved that they no longer have to put actual money into the game's development. They’ll milk whoever's left with increasingly predatory MTX, and the fanboys will keep pretending this game is some sort of underrated gem, just like they do with The Finals. Your playerbase will decay and go to 10-20k, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably shit.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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Anyone else wiping and not redoing the quests? I hated doing them. It's just a shame I won't have the Trigger Nade BP. Hullcracker was nerfed to the ground so it's whatever, also you can buy it. Burletta is common enough so idc.
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>>550114301
Who the fuck is doing quests?
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>>550114301
The quests progress is getting reset too?
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Lads, opinions on this? It's at 75 points and I have 6 points remaining and the only things I can think of are all the downed perks, either damage resist while downed or crawl speed. I play mostly duo / trio and sometimes the enemy tries to just finish you off by shooting, but for all I know the damage resist perk is functionally worthless like most perks in the game adding like some 5% which hits almost no breakpoints for anything.
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>>550114379
You do them initially for the cosmetics, although they suck.
>>550114507
Yes.
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>>550114301
yeah FUCK the quests
I don't care about the Burletta or Hullcracker bps
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>>550114678
after my reset i'll probably get the trigger nade bp and ignore the rest
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>>550114678
You know you're going to do them to make the vendor NPCs shut the fuck every time you load into a map, right?
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>>550115015
you can just not accept them
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>>550112751
I got a two star as my best on 10 seconds. I'm not out here saying I'm the best or some shit, I am saying I factually shot the dude more times before he shot back at me one time. I broke his shield and had already shot him 2-3 times before he broke my shield. There is just no possible way he out DPS'd me unless the game fucked me over. Packet loss? Lag? I don't know, but there's just no way
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>>550115110
Run OBS and watch your dogshit gameplay
It’s not a you problem, most people are severely delusional and yes it will be embarrassing
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>>550090647
Stella is absolutely broken for goop runs, the occasional time I get ratted im not even mad it was prolly only 3-4 mins of my time
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>>550116119
Nah bro we gotta run security there were gunshots there
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>>550113702
People who complain about PvP are also the ones most likely to engage in PvP, and because they kos they also run into other shitty kos players.

Meanwhile I've made quite a few friends in my high trust lobbies.
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>>550115110
>Packet loss? Lag?
pretty sure that happened to me
>run around corner
>1 shot still downs me
>probably not around the corner on his screen
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>>550097668
one of these days people are gonna realize that the second in raid crafting perk isnt worth it
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>>550117248
PVP complainers are most likely people who don't want to PVP (in the moment) because they have something to do. A quest? Need a specific item? Want to go to a specific place? They want to go there and do their shit and get out. Not get shot in the back and die in .75 seconds by a stitcher 4.

Most PVP in this game is not a "fair" engagement. It's all about backstabbing, getting shots off first, rushing someone who isn't prepared, etc. Is that a good thing or bad thing? Eh, that's a personal opinion. This all stems from the fact that 1. grey weapons are just too fucking good for how cheap they are (s4 is the best gun in the game no argument) and 2. shields break too easily. Dying faster than you can react (sometimes) isn't fun. These problems exacerbate PVP because even if you're a free kit rat you bum rush someone and fuck them up and get everything.

Why the devs have no hot fixed the game is beyond me. It would be very simple to balance the grey weapons so that you can't be completely fucked up by any no-skill retard m1ing you.
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Everything will be fixed on Tuesday, just wait for the patch.
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>>550118574
That's why i'm hoping the cold snap update fixes this abhorrent shit. It seems like they didn't want to do drastic changes while the season was ongoing but the season ends in like a week and a half so it's now or never considering they're taking a christmas break and said there wont be anything after cold snap until january
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>>550118423
It's there mostly for the key, laser tripwire traps are dogshit.
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>>550118574
most pvp engagements in any shooter are not fair, it's all about who sees who first
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If you were a raider in the world of ARC raiders,
would you do things like installing acid/explosives on your gear
just to spite other raiders who kill you and deny them loot?
and if everybody started doing so, would people even bother killing each other at that point?
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it's really freaking annoying how you can be playing in carebear lobbies for like 5 games straight and then suddenly be put in some mouth breather KoS retard lobby where everyone shoots everyone
like, I genuinely haven't had anyone shoot me in that long and now I'm just instantly shot right out of spawn by some guy hiding behind a rock and then HE gets shot by another guy who then gets shot by ANOTHER guy
like I wish there was a way to know whether you should anticipate the KoS retards or not
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>>550120978
no because its a liability to weigh yourself down with explosives that might blow yourself up on accident
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>>550114640
>It's at 75 points
Your SP cap is max level + 1.
>sturdy ankles at 3
Waste of 2 skillpoints right there, shit is ass. Your death fall height always stays at 33m and the otherwise present damage reduction for that range is fucking nothing, maybe you'll get like a ~6hp save from a 32m fall at 5/5.

But otherwise yeah, your tree is basically perfect.
You can spec into roll stamina (3/5 for an extra sprint roll or 5/5 if you want to run between the rolls a bit), the DBNO perks are also pretty good (CBYW > DBD > TC), TC gives about 3 or 4% damage resistance per point from what I can roughly gauge.
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>>550117302
You should have ran across the door and jumped, there's a ladder to the right of the entrance.
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>>550120990
always anticipate them never let your guard down even in carebear lobbies
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>>550120990
>like I wish there was a way to know whether you should anticipate the KoS retards or not
All of the fun is not knowing and having to figure it out
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>>550121771
I love that fun! it turned tarkov into the kind of game I love: battle royales
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>>550121878
>it turned tarkov
Tarkov never had any incentive to work together outside of your team, especially when the TTK is an eyeblink.
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>>550121729
>>550121771
the problem is unless you shoot first you're dead
the game needs higher ttk
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>>550121974
I remember when the trailer dropped
USEC team goes into factory and gets into a fight against BEARs
then after they knock each other out one USEC and one BEAR wake up alone in the locker room with scav voices closing in
so they decide to team up to survive

people thought that's how the game was supposed to work
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>>550120216
Yes and in this particular game that sucks ass. There is barely any reason to use a heavy shield at all because it just does not save you from enough damage to be worth the cost. You die in 6 shots instead of 5, wow, epic!! Yes it could save you and let you instead kill your attacker, but it isn't guaranteed. That is the entire problem. It does not give you any real advantage, just a chance, it's basically pure RNG.

No one is saying if you have a heavy shield you should be a walking tank that can't be killed. But I do think nearly everyone agrees you shouldn't be able to completely own anyone with a shitty ass grey weapon. Grey gear and low tier gear should be used for survival and looting. You go in with a free kit, you try and find some items, you get out. If you're attacked, you run, stand and fight if you must but you shouldn't be able to turn the tables so easily because the stitcher 1 kills so fucking fast.

It is annoying in other games like Tarkov where you basically can't kill someone at all if you don't have the right gear yourself. But there is an obvious middle ground between "the shittest weapons in the game are also the best" and "guy spends 100k per run and is unkillable"
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>>550122082
>people thought
Trailers are always bogus, mechanics are the things that influence behaviour.
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>>550122087
>It is annoying in other games like Tarkov
You don't need AP bullets to kill a geared guy though, that's a complete lie. Even if you're armored you can easily die to leg meta or blunt damage, and if your face is armored you usually can't hear shit because those helmets don't support tactical headphones and the enemy can exploit that.
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>>550121682
yea.. I thought of that after
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>>550122323
yes but you also don't need a kettle to kill a player, you can do it with a ferro
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so why does matchmaking suddenly take 2 minutes
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There's too many fucking people doing Matriarch/Harvester. This is the second game in a row where the Matriarch dies before 15 mins, insane. I can't get any damage in.
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>>550122087
Heavy shield has a place in coordinated trios where you have support and time to retreat and recharge. It is absolutely useless in solos/duos though because of how initiative and first shot advantage work.
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>>550122323
But unlike in ArcRaiders in Tarkov spending money typically does give you some sort of advantage. Better movement, can't die as easily to bleeding or whatever, better protection from a player who isn't geared. Etc. In Tarkov if you try and be a free-kit rat you will get fucked up and die/lose more often than not. In Arc if you're a free rat you can and will fuck up anyone in the game for 100% profit in all senses. Imagine if in Runescape the best weapon was an iron scimitar for some reason. Imagine if in Total War the best unit was 1 standard infantry squad. It just makes no fucking sense and it sucks the fun out of the game.

If grey weapons did much less shield damage that would probably solve nearly all of the "problems" with KOS/PVP. If you have a stitcher 1 and it sucks ass, everyone will think twice about just trying to light up whoever they see. Would also incentivize players using more and different weapons/gear.
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>>550100413
I like the head portion
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>>550122716
>4 extra stitcher bullets
>way more chargers needed to get back to full
nope still useless
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>Because of rats like that I dropped out of the game. Frustrating. I want to play a game to have fun or challenge and not get angry.
>This is textbook griefing gameplay behavior. This ruins the user experience. I don't doubt that this will hurt the game over the long term unless they figure out some kind of system that punishes this behavior, I'm sure Embark knows this. Either through reduction in XP or something similar or they get marked on the map as a HVT in the next match and others will get rewarded for taking out the rat.
>Killing players during a PvE even should warrant some kind of debuff(s) or auto-kick.
>This is exactly why the fucking Queen and Matriarch maps NEED to be PvE ONLY. i cant tell you how many times this has happened to me exactly. 3rd partying a person fighting AI is the most pussy shit/mentality/strategy ever. Embark needs to change this
>This is why something like only 2% of people have killed the matriarch. It's also part of the reason I think the game needs PVE and PvP lobbies. The PvP dilutes and diminishes the PVE aspect so much.
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>>550123792
>same 2 chargers as a medium shield
Don't be retarded.
The gist of it is that miniscule advantages are better seen in longer, more drawn out fights.
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the rattler is the perfectly balanced freekit weapon and the level 1 kettle and sticher should be brought down to it's level with nerfs
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>>550123280
Yeah, I agree with everything, you pretty much nailed it with "there needs to be a middleground", I was merely pointing out that Tarkov isn't a "100k makes you immortal" type of deal.
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>>550124264
yes
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>>550124264
Pretty much.
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>wholesome chungus night stella
Huh. Neat.
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>>550124250
Arguably the shield chargers need a buff. It takes a VERY long time to shield up. I actually takes too long IMO, your shield breaks and you need to charge up? You have maybe 3 seconds to do so and get ready for the enemy's next attack. It takes so long overall from: shield broke, get to cover, inventory/button presses to grab the shield, charge it, and get back to fighting. It's what makes shooting first/breaking shields first the best attack in the game, because someone with a broken shield is at such a disadvantage they are practically already dead.

The time it takes for you to do all of that shit and have a shield back and ready is LONGER than it takes nearly anyone to run up to you and keep shooting you. There are a TON of problems with the PVP in this game because of little problems like these. Grey weapons too good, shields too shitty, recharge too long, etc.
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I was hiding on a server or something in robotics sandbox to avoid a shredder, and got stuck.
When I unstuck, it put me outside the map. I ended up running all the way to the lobby before I could just walk through a wall to get back into normal play.
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>>550124683
>Arguably the shield chargers need a buff.
I think they are fine besides the blue charger, it could stand to lose a second of use time, down to 4s instead of 5s.
Shields though definitely need a buff, deflect percent for every shield can easily go up by 5-10% and heavy could stand to have 90 charge to incentivize a double charge combo.
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>>550124264
Also freekits should be limited to one weapon slot
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>>550123945
git gud
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>>550095009
what the fuck
>find another snaphook
>give it to someone
>find light gun parts blueprint
>find tactical mk 3 healing blueprint
did they up the rates? that's like 8 blueprints in <12 hours
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>>550125838
>snaphook
snaphook BLUEPRINT*
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>>550102612
I'm literally just shooting people based on if they like Alice in Chains or not.
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>>550127698
What's Alice in Chains? Is that an anime?
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The trails from last week ends Tuesday instead of today? Do I understand that correctly?
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>>550127934
no thats for store updates
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>>550125838
No you were just bad at blueprint farming before. Whenever I load up a raid with an intent to find bps, I can usually find 1-2 per raid and extract in about 10-15~ minutes.
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>>550125838
>kill surveyor
>another blueprint
>>550128587
I'm doing nothing differently
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If they don't buff medium and heavy shield to make you basically a bullet sponge to free loadouts, I'll quit.
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>>550129047
There are less blueprints in the shadowrealm
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>>550127698
AIC's Unplugged mogs every other one by a huge margin, including Nirvana's. Yeah I said it.
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>>550129372
I'm nor a pvpfag, I'm the guy posting webms where I don't even shoot back
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>>550129370
same but if they don't add that hairstyle on Tuesday
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Got the game yesterday and I've already put in 12 hours, this shit is addictive.
Is it realistic to try to farm for the expedition thingie or should I just chill and not wipe?
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>>550129370
I shoot female characters on sight with my free loadout.
Lucky for you I haven't played in over a week cause this game is boring as fuck once you see all there is to see. Kinda disappointed that I paid $40 for what essentially is Fortnite: Extraction Edition. Except Fortnite is free. And Arc should be too, and could be too, if they didn't hire a retard to design the skins that only braindead retards actually buy.
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>>550129657
you can do the expedition pretty easily in the time left but what might be unrealistic is getting the 5mil in credits/stash value after the expedition to get the 5 talent points
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>>550129607
This one is cuter imo.
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>>550129657
Depends, you can probably reset and not get the skill points that are worth 1mil per extra skill point
but you could get all the other stuff

But it's also like 1.5mil of grinding and sometimes the items don't spawn, the 5mil grind is essentially supposed to be over the next 2 months, so you could just do the next one in the next 2 months if you don't want to rush

but 21/22 is the final day, so that would be like nolife grinding
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>>550129820
I want both
But I need a new cuter female face to go along with them
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>>550129506
Dude its not contest. AiC fucking rules.
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>>550129713
>this game is boring as fuck killing people on sight
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>fags discussing their barbie dress up doll's new hairstyles
Bring me back to a time where there were no female avatars in multiplayer shooters, shit was so much better.
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>>550129778
>>550129848
Kek there's no way he'd be able to do the expedition in this time frame. He'll need to farm humidifiers and cooling fans, and I doubt he'd be able to amass specific loot types for step 5.
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>>550129916
I'd be down with anything cute. Game is extremely UNcute right now.
>>550130047
>fags
Guys who take issue with this kinda stuff are usually the ones who repress their homosexual inclinations. Just saying.
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>>550129973
It's even more boring being friendly for arbitrary rewards.
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>>550130297
>i dress up female characters, call things "cute," and post little anime girl reaction images but actually you're the gay one
Yeah, alright dude.
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>>550130445
yea but who cares about that

does my daughter look cool?
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>>550129370
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>>550130509
Sure, looks like Michael Jackson with sunscreen applied improperly.
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>>550130445
How am I gay if I like cute females? You make no sense. On the other hand, I knew someone who was very outspoken about gays. Years later they came out as gay themselves. People who are secure in their sexuality don't take issue with females in video games or playing dress up.
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>>550130729
ummmm its supposed to be cum, because she sucks off other raiders to make sure she can extract

retard
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Lmao just died to some faggot camping zipline at Pilgrims peak not but a min in, this is all this game's gonna be now isn't it?
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>>550130730
I don't care about gays, you can be a fag all you want, but enjoying "cute" anime and playing dress up with virtual barbies is fucking embarrassing. I don't like grown dudes acting like this shit is normal. And I've mentioned a million times here, it's one thing if the character models are sexy, my best friend plays chicks exclusively but only if they're hot (he ran around naked as a chick in BG3, dude is a mega coomer) but when I asked why he didn't play a girl like usual in this game he said, and I quote, "why would I play as a chick in a space suit."
You guys are fucking coping hard. You're emasculated and fucking embarrassing. There's a reason you're locked up in your room and never leave, there's a reason you've never been inside a woman, there's a reason your family is disgusted by you, embarrassed by you, and watching little girl anime and playing barbie dress up is directly connected.
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>>550130814
Cum isn't that color retard.
SHAMONE!!!
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>>550131017
You must have had a good gun to sell

>zipline up one of the small towers on spaceport
>immediately shot
>some indian going "thank you for the weapon sir"
>its 1 minute into the match
>he's cheating and thinks my pink attachments are valuable
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>>550130047
well we can't have cool looking dudes either so i'll settle for a qt woman
fuck i hate modern gaming and trannies so goddamn much
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A few days ago every Arc in Stella Montis froze. At first I thought my internet was crashing but people were still moving around. I tried asking people but either they had no mic, or mics weren't working. It was bizarre. Is this a known glitch?

I stayed for a good five minutes and they never unfroze.
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>>550131063
Lots of projecting and armchair psychology in this post.
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>>550131261
Yeah oh no my anvil and stitcher with grey attachments, and no loot.
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>>550131063
You are a faggot conformist.
>B-BUT ONLY IF DEY HOT
I am also certain that you are brown. Only an ape with a undeveloped prefrontal cortex thinks like this. An actual man may appreciate what he doesn't see.
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>>550131391
Forgot to mention they were frozen and also invincible. This was the last Arc I killed before they all froze up.
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Predictions for Tuesday?
>inb4 1% reduction of Stitcher damage and 1.5% slower reload for Ferro
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>>550131063
anime website
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>>550131864
Already posted my hand in this general like a month ago, nice try. I don't expect you to do the same because people always throw this nonwhite insult around and then never actually prove you're white.
>i watch little girl animes and play as frumpy girls in video games..
>t-they're cute!
>i-if you think otherwise you're actually brown!!! not white like me!!
Alright dude. Keep coping, or maybe post your hand so I can make assumptions the same way you projected some bullshit about me.
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>>550131391
their servers are dying. I froze for about five seconds when I was doing the harvester yesterday. if only they weren't on vacation and could check on things
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>>550132394
I genuinely don't think we're getting any balance changes
A trigger nade nerf if they're feeling adventurous
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>>550116119
Its awesome
>>550118574
Pretty much this. Theyre mostly friendly, but theyre opportunist
>>550120990
Theres still faggots in the chungus realm, just not as many. There was some guy just staring at me in medical when it was just two of us and I knew it was time to leave. Fags will wait for you to be alone to shoot you when theres no witnesses, especially in high trust lobbies. I can normally tell the vibe of the lobby in the first few minutes by how many people are chatting or at least emoting. People dont talk in the hell lobbies.
>>550124634
Based
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>>550132498
>Already posted my hand in this general like a month ago
This is infinitely more embarrassing than liking cute anime girls. Is this what unironic autism looks like?
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>>550132498
>saar i am northern brahmin look my skin in very white saar
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>>550132561
True, I keep forgetting this game is made by lazy european faggots who work like 7 months out of the year. I keep forgetting this despite their product making it very clear
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>>550132394
they're going to nerf the hullcracker again because that one guy was using it to kill shredders
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>>550132561
Unfortunately I agree.
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>>550132952
This is genuinely what I expect. Maybe even a wolfpack or deadline (lol) nerf.
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>>550132729
>get called out for being something you're not
>prove otherwise
>haha you're autistic
????
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why do people keep saying to loot stella to make money it seems less efficient than just doing fast extracts on buried city for like 10k/min profit
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>>550133106
I'm not the anon you're replying to. I think the other guy is projecting just like you projected earlier. Both of you are embarrassing in your own way.
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>>550133242
what is a good spot to loot if you land opposite hospital / grandioso apartments?
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>>550133174
Because on Stella you can get 30k just by looting 2-3 drawers in Assembly. Bonus points if you got a hatch key, in which case you can also leave in 3 mins.
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>>550133389
yeah but it's also a hotter spot and you can get shittier spawns
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>>550132547
But what would cause only the Arc to freeze and being invincible? Everything else still worked, interactables were fine, extracted okay, and people were still moving around. Am I really the only one who experienced this glitch?

For a minute I thought it was intentional, like Embark was doing an in-game event where someone hacked the Arc mainframe and something like evil Raider NPCs would drop in to attack. But that'd be too cool and I realized pretty quickly that this wasn't intentional.
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>>550133468
True, but Stella is a dense place with a million containers to loot, so it's still the most efficient. The downside is that it's extra stressful because of how hard to navigate it is.
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>>550133174
Unless you get a bad spawn theres tons of high density really good loot spots. Theres mag accelerators just sitting out on in the open in the lobby. Unless its a really bad spawn I can still get stuff I need like advanced elec components and sensors.
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>>550129047
omg another blueprint
wolfpack this time
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I'm never doing expedition a second time if you need to hoard stash value again. Not only does it encourage the already boring gray weapon meta around the expedition window, but it also encourages people to start hoarding after the wipe as well. I hope Embark is intelligent enough to foresee that but I have my doubts judging by their conduct thus far.
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uuuuuuhhhhh, 5 minute queue???
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>>550095361
I can buy them being dumb enough to put a cap of some kind on blueprints and keys. sometimes I won't see any for a bit then suddenly there's multiples of each in a single raid
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Anyone else using the self-defib technique?
People are calling me a cheater but I'm not cheating
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>>550135012
Servers are fucked. Stella Montis 5 minute queue too.
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>>550135296
wew
imagine this shit keeps happening as they're on vacation :)
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>>550135247
what is it?
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Sorry guys, Sven is on holiday until early January.
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>>550134060
Their decision making is almost entirely based on streamers' opinions at this point, the only thing they did on their own was the hullcracker nerf.
The trapped locked rooms and 5 mil expedition requirement was thanks to CohCarnage (he said 3 mil, but still...)
The out of bounds glitches were completely ignored for a month until Peanut, streaming to like 80k viewers, intentionally hunted down people on blue gate and made a joke about the retarded employee who put the zipline in stella montis (they literally fixed it a few hours after his stream ended).

You can literally track every major decision they make to a streamer, it's insane. Now only if these retards could cry about how shitty the cosmetics are, maybe we'd get something cool.
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>>550135771
>made a joke about the retarded employee who put the zipline in stella montis
holy based
I genuinely have no idea how it took them so long to literally just deleted an object from the map in their map editor
but I guess maybe their map designer was busy sunbathing by the hotel pool on his vacation to Spain or something
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>>550136187
>>550135771
and the wall glitch still isnt fixed. multiple in space port, can still wall glitch in stella with your own zip.
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>3 minute queue on a sunday afternoon
it's over
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>>550136327
I choose to believe a bug died on the servers and is slowly killing them
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Servers deaded
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>>550136895
Good riddance. The meta sucked anyway.
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>>550135426
>imagine
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I wish theyre were like “private” servers like FO76, but no loot or exp. Just want to be able to explore the map and learn the layouts and stuff
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>minute long queue
>just "fought" a guy who was straight up invisible in stella
it's actually over
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>>550136187
>I genuinely have no idea how it took them so long to literally just deleted an object from the map in their map editor
Yep, that was the premise of his joke. And then 3 hours after his stream ended it was fixed.

You just know Embark went full on panic mode listening to a virtual peanut talking shit and exposing their incompetence to 80k viewers.
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>solos getting played in trio lobbies
lmao
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I'm still sitting on my 1500 free tokens 200 hours in. Guess I'll use them to buy the new deck.
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I can't keep getting away with this.
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>>550138070
kek
This game is so fucking cooked.
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>Fill trios
>get the most normie aussie on the planet with proximity automic on, quality is atrocious
>Talking to his friend about pulling out of a sportsbet early
>Spawn in cultural archives/sec and we drop down into the shredder
>man is actually jumpscared
>"AW FUARK CUNT I FUCKIN HATE THESE THINGS" heard over prox chat for miles
>spend 5 mins "accidentally" luring shredders in cult into them and getting a good laugh
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>>550138286
Nevermind the bugged wall, I like the mine tech I invented.
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>>550138070
I wonder what the reddit operators would have to say about this
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>>550137929
Are they letting us keep them? I'm at like 2.5k, I can probably buy the entire deck the minute it drops. That's kinda retarded.
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>>550138070
>bro 3rd person is so peak bro
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>if you don't like anime faggotry you're brown
what the fuck is this retarded shit I wake up to?
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>>550132952
>the sale cost of energy ammo has been reduced by 70% because it was too valuable.
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>>550138770
Tokens are the premium currency. You're talking about Cred, and it doesn't get wiped. I got 3200.
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I saw a solo raider being hounded by 2 wasps, a Hornet, and a Snitch in a field depot-like shed. Me and my duo comm'd "Friendly" and helped shoot some of the ARC. Solo decides to shoot my friend and books it, with 3 flyers chasing him. I chased and gunned him down out of spite.

Why are people so fucking dumb in this game? We could've killed you in that rusty shed the second we saw 3 ARCs alerted around it.
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>>550139171
NTA, did they confirm cred aren't wiped for new decks?
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surely they won't let no lifers immediately get all new deck rewards when it comes out?
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>>550139698
No, but why would they wipe them? You got the dadgamers who are probably still going through the current one and have 75. I can't imagine them punishing people for having played more (besides the whole horizontal gear progression shit).
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The NFL is starting now which means we have about 11 hours of consoletards being preoccupied checking their parlays. This is the time to loot.
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>>550139160
energy ammo having the sell price it does genuinely feels like an oversight from them. I expect them to lower it at some point
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>>550140069
or just make crafting energy ammo
or anything
take time
12min per energy cell
12h to craft an equalizer
but both give you a profit
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>>550138286
>>550138437
>>550138793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8YOBvq-jc

Here's an oldie too >>550100815
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>>550140008
>queue up solo
>end up in trios
Yeah, perfect time alright. Lmao.
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>we're getting more instruments
Nice I hope they sync up when someone else is playing
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>>550140279
Where does it say that?
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>>550140386
On their instagram
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>>550140217
It's his fault for not setting up his own barricade on his side of the door to block the mines.
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>>550140721
They are audible from ~20m, he's just a lil' retarded.
I actually like how this tech abuses the fact that when people hear traps they think they are somewhere on the edge of the door and not ready to fly into your face.
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>>550140386
>>550140690
Forgot link whoops
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSQGFtKCNzL/?l=1
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>>550140941
As an amateur guitar player, I like this.
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>>550140941
we're getting a snow state and a guitar. what are the odds that's it?
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The first month of quirk chungus wholesome was better than what it is now. The high water mark for me in this game was me and this autistic middle eastern chick rounding up the entire solo server to take on a rocketeer on buried city parking garage before the wolfpacks were common. We had like 10 people diving around evading rockets and plinking it with kettles and ferros. I will never forget that moment and if the game just descends into third world KOS tarkov hell, I'll always have it.
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>>550140941
YES MORE INSTRUMENTS
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>>550141308
same, I've had so many memorable moments in chungus lobbies when I started
especially when there's both experienced and new players in the same lobby
we will never get this again once it turns into a battle royale game
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I have farmed 20 snitch scanners, hopefully it will be enough to go up a few places in the trials ranking tomorrow.

>What's that, you actually dared play the game on the day the trials reset? Guess we'll just put you with all the sweats in the same rank.
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>>550118423
you need to select a bunch of filler talents to get access to security lockers, its only 1 talent point.
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>>550140864
I don't think that there is a problem with your tech. He heard the mines. He violated the NAP by opening that door. He fucked around and found out. There's also cointerplay if he decides to take the risk. It's reasonable for him to get blindsided by that trap the first time, but now that he's experienced it he can use a barricade to provide cover from mines. That's less than the cost to setup the trap, and it's a reusable asset.
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>>550141946
>filler
Red tree has the best perks in general, you're only spending ~4 filler points compared to other trees where you're doing 10 and more to reach capstones.
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Anyone not planning to expedition want a wolfpack, tempest, or lightmag2 bp? I'll take advanced arc power cells or something worth money for them.
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>>550141572
>we will never get this again once it turns into a battle royale game
Already happened. The devs killed the pve aspect by making the loot you get from arc somehow worse than collecting fruit baskets then sending everyone a 5 million dollar bill. No one is doing the PVE. They're either doing scripted optimized loot runs or just KOSing/extract camping with stitchers.

Solo is dead.
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>>550142074
>He violated the NAP by opening that door. He fucked around and found out.
I like the way you think.
Time to craft more explosive mines and instill paranoia into everyone on the EU server.
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>>550140941
>raiders actually get covered in snow
hope they fix clothing staying dry during rain
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>>550138070
>>550140217
how many mines is that to kill someone?
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>>550141659
What's your plan for killing them? Wolfpacks I feel like dont do max damage. I did it with 11 and also got 4 more (so 26 total) and only wound up with like 7800 points. I was so disappointed. None of the trials this week seems like something you can farm as a solo. Wasps take too little damage for points. Bastions don't really respawn much without the hidden bunker event for 2+ every 6 minutes for a whole 40 minutes. Pops/ticks/fireballs take forever and you're likely to get KoS'd while doing them (I still managed to get 18k on Stella luckily). Supply drops are fucky to farm. And queen/matriarch can't get double pointed while also being hard to get a lot of damage on them unless you stack deadlines, which no one is doing because lmao 5million.
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>>550142602
3 for light/medium, 4 for heavy.
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>check rank
>rank 30
>check top 10
>obviously all using the exploit
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>>550142785
pray tell
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>>550142870
snitch scanner stacking
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>>550142894
how is that an exploit?
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>>550143076
just calling it that because people are at like 80k+ score
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>>550142609
Dunno yet, I think I'll go to a quiet place on the edge of Spaceport then start throwing snitch scanners and just kill them manually, you get more points by hitting them in the body instead of the rotors. Might bring along a few wolfpacks if things get hectic.

First place in my rank is 135k...
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matchmaking is still broken huh
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>>550143230
Been trying to get into a game for 6 minutes so I'd say yes
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>>550129713
>freekitter
>KOS
>so bored he's not playing
honestly good
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anyone wanna trade blueprints? not sure if these are worth much I'm looking for a looking mk3 augment bp
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Did a freekit stella run and got scared in the extract, neither me or this other dude would put our weapons away so I threw a grenade and missed and it was on. Somehow managed to win despite only having a ferro and he had a stitcher.

He turned out to be Br*tish (on NA) and was super grateful that I let him extract with me, he kept hyping me up and calling me a legend. #justwhitepeoplethings
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servers die
general die
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>>550145917
sociopaths won
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>kos pvpers think the ttk is fine because they are always at a huge advantage shooting first for engagement
interesting
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Man i dont think im hitting the 5m
Im just now hitting 1 mil liquid.
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>>550141308
I think a lot of people do not realize that the casual nature of the game's design is exactly what has made it devolve into a KOS PVP shitfest.
Any given raid is probably roughly 50% free kits, sometimes probably much more. Why would a free kit help you take down a Rocketeer at this point? He's already upgraded his benches literally 5 weeks ago, and the loot doesn't serve any other purpose than that. If he kills you and fails, it doesn't matter, or if he succeeds it was more fun than taking down some pointless PvE objective.
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>>550146676
The masses haven't even gotten the news yet. Shit's going to be wild. Get your popcorn ready for the holiday season review bombing. The swedes couldn't have timed this worse if they tried.
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>>550138420
well the bug doesn't even really factor into the setup, just gives you a better view of the action
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>>550142894
wtf is that
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>>550147708
1. bring in 75 snitch scanners
2. throw them
3. throw a wolfpack
4. get 80,000 points on the wasp damage trial
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extracted with 10 people on spaceport after defeating matriarch
love this shit
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>>550148959
>50k score on trials
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I don't think I'm going to reach 5M. I just have too many RL commitments this time of year.
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>>550148959
>>550150458
didnt mean to reply
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>>550141308
Solos are still largely chill for me. The weirdos make themselves easy to spot. Played Stella all night w/o incident. A group took out the Bastion and some guy even shot a fireball that was coming at me.
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>>550150578
game has too many conflicting systems going on for me to really "focus" on just making money because all it takes is one gay nigger to ruin your run in under 2 seconds
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I am le ninja looter
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>>550150805
I've just been spamming Stella. It's the one map small enough that you don't need a stack of stims to cross it fast. Generally I end up needing to hit the sec lockers though since assembly/medical/security get looted within 3 minutes. At least a snaphook lets me loot the weapon crates in the rafters that nobody ever looks at.
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>>550150713
>edge shadow ninja outfit
>black with dreads
>nog voice
>friendly before shooting you in the back
>Feigning surrender in warfare is considered perfidy, which is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. Specifically, it is prohibited by Article 37 of the 1977 Protocol I, as it undermines the trust and protections established in armed conflict.
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I'm doing the expedition but don't care about the 5m. The skill tree is worthless. I just want the cosmetic and the stash space and really do not care about BPs.
I'm not going to let these Swedish retards force me to play an extraction shooter where the optimal play is to just run naked.
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an aimbotting nigger was responsible for all of this
i wallhack but don't aimbot because i'm not a nigger
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>>550148083
I have only one KOS: people who use snitch scanners during Trials. A few days ago I waited until a guy had used up all his scanners and then murked his ass. Dude sounded like he was about to cry.
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>>550151603
The skill points are mostly long term copium that the swedes will eventually rebalance the skill tree. It's probably inevitable, but will probably take them 8 months.
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>>550151607
kill yourself
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>>550151832
no u
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>>550151874
you're still a nigger because you use cheats
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>>550151607
Nah that's nigger behavior, nigger.
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>>550151607
disgusting nigger
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>>550147301
You think most people dont know?
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>>550151758
>another nigger mad about white people climbing mountains
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>>550152281
I'm actually white and I used to rock climb and explore at the beach, just to see what was on the other side. Don't ever @ me ever again Ranjeesh.
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>>550141308
imagine if there was some sort of great global reset that brought us back to the shitter days
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>>550152436
keep coping nigger
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Why are wait times so terrible right now?
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>you are a le nigge
>nyo you are le indian
since when did arguments on 4chan devolve to pre 2008 style jimmy rustle gorilla spam
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Why is it taking over a minute to "matchmake" into the fucking practice range?
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>go to annex to use my key
>meet two friendlies, one new guy
>we both use our annex keys and find a venator and osprey bp
>give them to the new guy
>we escort him out
>neither of us had to use our hatch keys
>still dipped with like 80k value loot
My seat in console argartha is guaranteed.
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>>550152831
>why is lil timmy acting like a sociopath in sociopath general?
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>>550152831
>pre 2008
>jimmy rustle
what
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>>550153165
I noticed that too, I panicked and thought i hit the wrong thing

probably just server load or their matchmaking AI is getting more sophisticated
I haven't been placed into any matches where someone is pvping anyone since it started
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>>550120978
I'd go around raping femraiders
or I'd get to a loot spot before anyone else, gather all the valuable things, recycle everything I couldn't carry and then offer deals like "3x rusted gears for oral, 6x bastion drives for anal"
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>>550151603
Same. I'm mostly doing the Expedition for fun. I grinded up to 2mil and it killed a lot of my interest for the game.
It just isn't fun grinding money. And the ~5 extra skill points aren't really that significant anyway.
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LOL
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Is the karma matchmaking thing legit? Because I've been defibbing randoms and not shooting anyone this weekend and I had like 6 Stella matches back to back where literally everyone was friendly.
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>>550151758
You shouldn't emotionally abuse autistic people anon.
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>>550154550
yes it certainly is
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>>550154676
I'll do it every time. No regrats, nigga
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umm what's going on bros
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>>550153473
ok but what would normal people do not people like you
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>>550155192
Swedes are on vacation and the servers dieded.
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>>550154550
it either is
or
people are doing something to get paired
or
its a coincidence

but so far almost everyone is posting
>yea I've been friendly and always get friendlies
and
>I KOS and get put in KOS lobbies
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Is trios behavior affecting how your solo matchmaking works?

If I go around in trios shooting on sight do I get put in the bad boy lobby in solo?
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>>550154550
I dont think its the only factor, but it has to be at least one of the factors when it comes to matchmaking. Its just so obvious if youve played awhile. They know carbears will quit if they keep getting killed by trannies and trannies have nothing to complain about because they have people to shoot in the back no matter what lobby theyre put in.
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>>550154550
Devs said yes, but we have zero actual details on how it works, so we don't know if it's affected by things like defending yourself, downs vs knockouts, whether there's any kind of timer, etcetera.
Doing 5-10 runs where you don't even defend yourself does get you the lobbies where no one else defends themselves either, though.

That said I feel like the one guy in magical pixie land where my pals and I sometimes get friendly trio lobbies, and we tend to slaughter anyone who takes a shot at us with impunity.
>Left a raid last night with 6 stacks of herbals, rechargers and grenades all from the never-ending train of rats trying to stop us from shooting a Matriarch on Bluegate.
Honestly funny how bad everyone is at pvp, and I never shoot first.
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>>550154550
I still suspect that it's simply kill:death ratio based MMR. It would explain the anecdotes of people being sent to Brazil for simply winning in self defense.
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>>550155575
no ones tested it yet
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/dgd/ Dead Game General
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>>550155727
>Devs said yes
post it
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>>550155575
I want an answer to that too since duo/trios necessitates a different playstyle and I dont want to go to pvp hell for shit like this
>>550155734
I just know I dont shoot first and thats been enough to allow me to continue to be placed in high trust society lobbies
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>>550090647
Celeste is actually rather cute
8/10 would give her my seeds
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>>550156194
down syndrome face
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>5 min in queue and still not loaded
Yeah, I'm going back to Marvel Rivals
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>>550156298
isn't that the game considered to have insane massive balance issues by its general?
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>>550155734
I think it might be kdr related too, since kosnigs can also reach lightskin lobbies if they just happen to not see anyone for a few raids to shoot at.

>inb4 4chan general used for content for a dozen youtubers to scalp from for a dollar
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>>550156429
Dunno, I don't go to the general.
Overall, I think, the chinks are trying to balance it. They constantly push out the updates with balance changes, even if it's not in the perfect state. I only go up to gold every season, for the skins, then go back to qp.
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>>550156194
Are you one of those weirdos that finds insect people attractive? If so, I can see why you think she's cute
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>>550155814
fuck off youtube pajeet scalper
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>>550156814
>chungus matchmaking is real
keep coping
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>>550155814
https://web.archive.org/web/20251212150711/https://www.pcgamer.com/games/third-person-shooter/your-bloodlust-does-have-consequences-in-arc-raiders-as-a-dev-confirms-we-do-analyse-behaviour-and-match-accordingly/
Literally 'devs said yes' and no other info, hence the speculation.
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>>550156194
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How to de-aggro my account? I was fucking around pre-5mil and sniping people on space port just to fuck with them (never killing anyone)

Do I just run into a match naked and intentionally get KOSSED over and over until I hear the carebears theme song?
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>>550157037
yes you acted like a nigger so now you must go through the humilliation ritual
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>>550157283
tbf I was the chungus gamer when the game first came out and it was after my 40th time getting KOSd that I figured "If you cant beat them join them"
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>>550154550
It's gear+KDR+aggression, according to my personal observations. Your mileage may vary of course but I've seen what I've seen. I've ran a huge amount of free and naked raids so the gear is absolutely a factor.
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>>550157370
weak mental
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>>550148083
lolmao
based
thanks for explaining it then
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>>550156194
She looks like my Tajik classmate(male) in 8th grade.
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>>550157442
Gear is an odd one. I see a big mix of freekits and real loadouts regardless of what I take. Just came across a stitcher versus a torrente in my last run, hell.
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>do normal loot run
>xXxBrazilNutxXx runs in to KOS
>blast them on mic calling them out for being a faggot player
>guy complains about mean words
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>ignore trials for the first couple weeks
>start trying them like three weeks ago
>all the tryhards have outranked us lowly casuals
>leisurely three starring all trials in solos is enough to double rank up
>make it to wildcard II
>try abusing snitch scanners with a trio one (1) time is enough to put me in second place
>set to double rank into daredevil I and get all the same rewards as everyone else who didn't make it to top 100
What exactly was everyone complaining about, this game is easy?
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Eyy, got my MVP in Rivals.
Are queues in ARC still 5+ minutes?
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>trying to do pop challenge
>always run into someone already doing it
dang it
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>>550159349
Stella is pop world
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>>550157628
is he single
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>>550157918
>I see a big mix of freekits and real loadouts regardless of what I take.
This is what I see as well, that's why I say it's gear+playstyle. Going geared gets you into harder(more skilled and aggressive) lobbies but you can get there on a freekit if you kos enough. It's not just gear, but it's absolutely a factor.
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>>550156258
>>550156607
>>550157628
ah yes
a crash course reminder that the majority for 4chan are closet homosexuals
>>550156194
i hope you learned your lesson. We like GUYS here.
DUDES.
AND THE ANDROID MAN WE CUM ON HIM
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>>550159584
this obviously
its not one factor, it's a game made in 2025, they probably have some "algorithm" that was the big thing before AI
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>running rattler freekit
>get KOSd
>turn to the guy and say "oh please shoot me and send me to the chungus lobby"
>he continues shooting me and downs me
>"heh...thanks idiot. I wanted you to kill me"
>He tells me to shut the fuck up as he knocks me out

Fucking idiot doesnt even know he just sent me to the chungus lobby.
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>>550156194
I think she's cute too
Don't worry bro, when someone rips her model I'll make blender porn of her just for the two of us
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>>550160014
dare i ask what the fuck a chungus lobby is
does this game have bot lobbies?
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>>550160062
i think that the thing that's hard to explain on 4chan is that, while she is generally 5/10 cute with light makeup on, she's knocked up to a 7/10 due to a cute voice in my opinion
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>TU4 is on the 16th
Okay, I guess, I'll take my "free" inventory slots and one (1) skill point for the time being.
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>>550155689
I don't even want to shoot people in the back. Organic PvP encounters are what make this type of game fun and systemically incentivizing people to not engage with a core pillar of the game design is retarded.
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>>550160249
the game is recording your aggression. If you just stand there and get shot it notes that you didnt even fight back and sends you to servers with other people that arent interested in KOS pvp which allows you to loot big money hassle-free
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>>550160014
I kekd irl
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>>550154550
>>550155734
>>550156939
this is something I have wondered for a while. IF karma matchmaking is real, then will it negatively reflect me if someone shoots at me first and I successfully kill them in response?
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>>550160843
>the game rewards you for not engaging with half of it!
This is the most retarded game design I have ever heard of and you're retarded for thinking otherwise.
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>>550160249
The game has matchmaking that anecdotally puts groups friendlies together and likewise groups Brazilians together. The chungus lobby is a homogenous high trust society where everyone is polite to each other and collaborates VS the ARC.
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>>550160973
why do you care how other people play? thats some of the most cuck shit imaginable
what i'm hearing here is that you want to play KOS, so go play KOS, the game will reward you by putting you in lobbies with like-minded players
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>>550160954
Yes. You are discouraged from engaging in PvP at all, even in self-defense. It's retarded.
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>>550160580
Not engaging in pvp is a valid strategy and there are emotes reflecting that
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>>550160954
If it was designed as a karma system, then self defense shouldn't hurt you. But I suspect it's KDR based, so self defense will hurt you. I don't know the truth though. KDR just marches with my personal experience.
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>>550161152
It's KDR based. So, if you want to exploit the system you just go into solos with tons of lure grenades and throw them at people to either have Arc kill them or they get pissed off enough to kill you.
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>>550160954
>then will it negatively reflect me if someone shoots at me first and I successfully kill them in response?
We dont know I hope not
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>>550161140
oh, as a canadian I understand. That sounds like canadian laws lmao
>>550161152
I am fairly good at turning around ambushes or betrayals, so I'll give it a few weeks and see if I get a general sense of my own matchmaking. I'll proabably talk about it on /arg/ if so. That makes me wonder if I should be keeping notes and graphing what happens to my sessions whenever player interactions occurs.
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>>550161395
>keeping notes and collecting data.
This is a voices in the walls general.
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>>550160954
>>550161395
The truth is we don't know entirely for sure, and anyone telling you otherwise is either going off their gut or making shit up.
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>>550154550
not sure myself but theres definitely matchmaking issues for people lately.
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I'm pretty sure I cemented my double rank-up
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wholesome chungusbros, we won
https://x.com/ArcRaiderAlerts/status/2000248204634521841
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>>550142237
Back when the game was in its first few days I remember like 8 guys being on the roof of research and space travel playing flutes while farming the spotter drones from the bombardier down on the parking garage. That's the main pve nerf that I can actually see getting rid of a fun interaction between players
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Why are queues so long? Is the game dying?
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>>550160954
if you kill your enemies, they win
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>>550161880
We can't know the precise details, but we have enough evidence to suggest that some sort of matchmaking algorithm is producing a result of creating chungus/brazilian lobbies.
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>>550162036
>posting unofficial account probably run by some jeet
sick bro
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>>550162125
My guess is that it's either entirely unrelated or they panicked when everybody found out about matchmaking and made some haphazard changes that made the entire system go haywire. Or they just disabled the chungus matching and what we have right now is a (slower) fallback system.
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>everyone finds out about karmic matchmaking and chungus lobbies
>games are suddenly taking longer to matchmake
Coincidence? I think not.
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>>550162502
Yes, I know that, I mean we don't know the details of how the algorithm works. We have two Anons saying "self-defense gets you shadow realm'd" right next to Anons saying "I only shoot in self-defense and I'm still in friendly town" next to more Anons saying "dunno lol"
It's obvious there's matchmaking, it's just opaque at the moment.
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I've noticed that announcing yourself with a mic has a big impact on keeping the peace. Even in the chungus lobbies, I feel like there is an appreciably large percentage of players that will shoot first ask questions later in a vacuum. But if you preempt the firefight with a greeting, many of them are willing to tenuously keep the peace. Especially if you're just two ships passing in the night instead of being some guy that follows around and overstays his welcome.
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>>550162548
Are you retarded? Did you read what was said?
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Literally everyone in the OCE region will shoot you on sight, no exceptions. Even if they have nothing to gain, even if they're in a terrible position to do so, they will shoot you.
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>>550162548
Here's the vid: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hTiCzL4yi60
The best part is, you can make a separate embark id with steam family sharing so you don't even have to buy a second copy of the game. The future is dual accing with chungus acc for looting and muling and pvp acc just for fighting. This game is literally just fortnite with persistent loot at this point.
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I find silent raiders who flicker their lights at you are more trustworthy than voice or voice command users a good deal of the time.
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>>550162887
>AGRESSION
Get this retard out of here
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>>550162728
Ok. Then we're on the same page. Also, for any anons who haven't touched the other settings yet.
>Crossplay: turn off
consoleniggers are niggers
>server: NA
The NA server has the reputation of being the friendliest. That sucks a bit for friends across the pond, but if your intent is to be friendly then you're already at a disadvantage in PvP anyway. It's not like you need pristine ping to fight the ARC and loot containers.
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>>550162728
Basically this
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>>550162950
Yep I agree
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>>550162036
>own multiple accounts
>still get KOS on afk explorer
>But the idea gets clicks and engagements for dimes and free kills for kosnigs
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>>550163518
>I get killed on sight so that means everyone else does too
Did you eat breakfast today?
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>>550162950
>I find silent raiders who flicker their lights at you
This instills some trust because it is indicative that they had LOS on you first and their course of action is to signal to you instead of shoot you. So it's relatively safe to give them some benefit of the doubt and keep the peace.
>voice
Humans are pretty good at reading others by their tone of voice. Baring some soulless sociopaths that have a perfect poker face.
>emotes and voice changers
wolves in sheep's clothing

Another advantage of using a voice greeting is that it encourages people to reply in kind. It can kick off a chain reaction where multiple hidden players reveal their presence. It creates the same kind of situation where you can achieve a degree of safety in public spaces. A nigger who would gladly try his luck to mug you in a dark alley is less likely to fuck around and find out when it is apparent that there are multiple other armed parties nearby.
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>>550162734
>>550163697
Yeah, 'friendly' lobbies still need a display of friendliness. Games like this have enough of a reputation that even otherwise friendly players might try to gun you down if they think you're the creepy one waiting to kill them.

Matchmaking or no, it also doesn't account for the random chance of new players or just people deciding that's the day their serial spree begins.
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>>550162887
thank you for the link anon
dw about the 4chin talking points like
>you're wrong bro, source??
>oh shit is that a source.jpg
>w-well it's just clickbait bro! It's not like the devs confir-
>blink.jpg
>WELL WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS AND DON"T HAVE THE SOURCE CODE IN OUR HANDS SO REALLY IT'S ALL SPECULATION AT THE END OF THE DAY
and so on, and so forth. thanks for actually providing evidence to your claim, most lurkers genuinely respect that.
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>>550163697
>Another advantage of using a voice greeting is that it encourages people to reply in kind. It can kick off a chain reaction where multiple hidden players reveal their presence. It creates the same kind of situation where you can achieve a degree of safety in public spaces. A nigger who would gladly try his luck to mug you in a dark alley is less likely to fuck around and find out when it is apparent that there are multiple other armed parties nearby.
This is all solid. Some dude was just crouched staring at me in medical through a window and didnt say anything until I acknowledged him. He responded via emote and we were alone. I left because he was definitely planning on killing me and felt safer when I found some other raiders. Still gotta be careful in the chungus realm.
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>-50k since the last weekend
How likely is it that the longer queue times and solos being matched with groups is a player response test? Just devs doing a test run to see how pissed off people will get once the game is down to 40-50k concurrent players and it starts happening for real?
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matchmaking is taking upwards of 5 mins. what the hell is happening tonight?
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>>550164509
I only play this game in duos and have encountered multiple solos and trios today plus longer matchmaking times. Not sure what is going on but I had encountered a solo player once before in duos and never seen a trio until today where we have encountered several.
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>>550164070
I'm the one that posted the original screenshot and twatter link, the link to the vid is in the replies of the twatter post, it's not rocket science anon
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>solo qeue
>ganked by duos
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>>550165157
i didn't mean to insult you, i'm saying thanks for providing sources. Most 4chinners would just post a screenshot of a tweet or something and leave it at that. Bringing a link, or a reply providing a youtube video within helps removes effort for people idly lurking to check in
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I'm feel fairly confident that matchmaking is KDR based since the violent niggers in chungus lobbies don't feel particularly confident. Consider vid related. Don't get me wrong, I'm sloppy and make a bunch of mistakes here and am indecisive if I want to try to kill him back or disengage. Just look at the lack of skill of this nigger that jumps me with an arpeggio.
>shoots me in the back. Not only does he not open with a headshot, it looks like he missed part of his opening burst
>misses follow up shots
>Seemingly bamboozled by me dropping down the hole
After this clip there was another minute or two of me breaking LOS and traversing to different parts of the map, but I never saw him again. Given the state of TTK in this game, I should have been dead to rights. This suggests that the violent niggers in chungus lobbies are incompetent retards with a failure rate so high that MMR sends them to chungusland.
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>>550165260
I wish I was ganked by a duo of cute femraiders when I go in solo
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>>550165550
kdr makes more sense than a vague karma value. I watched two idiots fight in spaceport this morning. it went on for a couple minutes
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If matchmaking is KDR based, then easiest way to return to Chungartha after being forced to defend yourself should be to spend a few matches aggressively seeking out fights but just pretending to be incredibly incompetent and losing every fight on purpose.
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>>550165550
unrelated but its such a mental itch when i am watching someone that doesn't know you can switch shoulder camera
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the game actively tracks and shows you when take or deal damage from other players, why wouldn't they base chungus rating off that instead
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>>550164509
I dindt play all week because of the 5m expedition
i run exclusively solo and will simply not play the game at all anymore if they put me in non solo lobbies
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>>550168081
I know I should have swapped there. I choked. What can I say?
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>>550168298
lol no big deal, I'm not genuinely complaining its just funny
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>>550167578
I'm a pvp player and whenever I run out of processors and antiseptics and attachment mats and shit like that I just go naked. I got my safe pocket and if I die it puts me closer to chungusland. Can't lose.
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>>550099891
people feel emboldened to pvp in larger groups
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>>550090647
This game is trolling
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>>550169462
ez 5000 coins
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anyone wanna trade?
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>>550169419
you just summarized thousands of years of human history
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How long is the average queue holy shit wtf
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>>550171106
Seems to be around 10 minutes for me for some reason. I'll probably just stop playing completely if this lasts for much longer.
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the steam discussions are starting to get uppity
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>>550170427
rad
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why am i getting killed by trios as a solo queuer? dead game already? cant fight fair huh nerds?
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>>550172091
what usually happens is you get in a fire fight, and then you lost the coin toss of whether or not "third party friendly" saw you as the aggressor or not.
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>>550168372
I noticed it when making the webm. I thought
>Man, what a shamfur dispray. I need to apply myself.
My copium is that I was focused more on trying to keep track of my loot and whether it's worth my time to even bother visiting cultural archives on stella. There was another player there who was friendly, but he left I guess. The zone largely feels like a nothingburger to me. There's a handful of trinkets on chairs and such around the perimeter of the huge zone, but it didn't feel that great. There's a ton of wooden breach containers in there, but 80% of them contain plain cloth+plastic with what feels like abysmal odds for trinkets. Also there's an above average number of shredders patrolling the halls.

The shredders were part of the reason that I was investigating. I had seen a clip saying that the osprey was good at killing rocketeers from ultra-long range because it had enough knockback to keep them outside of attack range until you could kill them, but he was using an osprey IV with a higher fire rate. I wanted to see if Osprey I could shoot fast enough to keep shredder's out of reach (spoiler: LOL, LMAO EVEN). Maybe osprey IV might do better, but at that point IMO just bring hullcracker I.

Anyway, I need to check archives a few more times to get a better opinion on it, but right now I feel like you're probably better getting the fuck out of there and checking the business center/auditorium. Despite not being a marked zone, there's a decent number of weapon crates and backpacks that can potentially spawn in the business center.
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>>550172329
Extended barrel is needed to make the osprey have enough knockback for rocketeers, give that a try against the shredders
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>>550165550
i just said that
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Can't wait to sport my exclusive expedition white overalls with lizard print on the pants.
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To everyone who says that a bounty system of any kind would be bad, if the devs decided to add one, what's the best/least worst way they could do so?
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>>550172329
You did fine. Cultural archives sucks, I’ve run into creepy people there too. The risk outweighs the reward of that place. Places like lobby are so filled with loot that even after people pass through it they miss tons of stuff.
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>>550173086
wdym anime poster
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>>550172581
Thanks for the tip. But I don't have the BP and have never seen that attachment in the wild. Probably won't happen this wipe. For now I've just settled on bringing a hullcracker I to chungus stella. It risks a 10k hullcracker and the ~1250 credits worth of ammo in the magazine. The spare ammo can be kept in my safe pocket.

In terms of time to kill and impact on my inventory space, the hullcracker is just superb at steamrolling shredders and looting their gyros. Operating costs are cheaper than using quick-use explosives. The operating costs are a bit more expensive than the medium/shotgun ammo that a toro/renegade/osprey would take to kill one, but it's probably worth the ammo expense just to save that much time. Once you kill 5 shredders you've made enough profit to bankroll a new hullcracker if a nigger mugs you. Everything beyond #5 is gravy.
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Trigger nades are fucking disgusting.
Gotta use my stockpile until the wipe.
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I wanna be able to check my total worth to know if I'm done with the grind yet
any way to do so?
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>>550173479
If I don't get a blessed spawn in medical/assembly, I normally just do a quick loop around the map checking on the sec breach lockers, the cafeteria freezer, and the handful of snaphook accessible weapon/grenade cases hidden in the rafters.
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>>550173872
The expedition skin is called Patchwork, and it's most likely this one. You can see that NPC walking in the background in the main menu. There's another variant but it's ugly.
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>>550174051
>launch game
>change PC clock to when the last phase is supposed to open
>check your stash value in the expedition menu
There.
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>>550174163
oh you have to launch the game first
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>>550174115
I still need to check out the cafeteria freezer
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>>550174051
Select every single item in your inventory and select "sell-all" without actually confirming the sale. I checked my full inventory a few days ago and ever since then I just assume that my stash is worth ~1M.
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>>550174163
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>550174221
The cafeteria is on the ground floor of the atrium on the west side. You need one of those fuel cells to open the door.

The contents aren't earth shattering. There is consistently two of those lush bloom baskets in there. That's where I'm going to fucking go for Scrappy's fruit post-wipe. Also potentially some backpack containers can spawn in there. Often the floor of the atrium itself has a handful of those blue luggage containers that IMO are worth looting. I feel like the Atrium is a fairly low traffic zone that doesn't attract many players, and the shredders that patrol the area spook the masses.

There are a number of potential fuel cell spawns within the atrium itself, and a handful of extra ones to the north on the southern side of the lobby in the lobby. The lobby is another area that I need to explore more. I've just tended to shy away since I tend to hear a lot of gunshots and raider flares from that corner of the map.
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>>550174436
I just sold my entire inventory once I was close to 5m. I was already burnt out so I'm taking time off until Tuesday.
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>>550173459
have a beeping sound nearby that only triggers when you're approaching. You can't use it to identify which player in particular however, its just a general small alarm. Doesn't really work in teams unless all 3 members have bounties on them.

The people with the bounty on them do not know they're a bounty target unless someone informs them however.
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>>550172581
Will this send the shredders to brazil?
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>>550173910
I will donate you 2 extended barrels for testing, I'm not using them anyways.
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>>550175167
I haven't tried the torrente vs shredders. I wouldn't be surprised if it ragdolls them to death with ease, but napkin math suggested to me that it would probably take too many bullets to kill them for me to be happen from a cost and inventory space perspective.
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>>550174820
Nice thanks anon. When it comes to unfamiliar areas I normally go in with a freekit and just head to the new area to get a lay of the land.
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Hello /arg/, My name is Nova and I am on The Spectrum™
I am currently figuring out how to manipulate ARC spawns via client side. Does not appear to work with most bigger ARC, besides Bastions. Plus, small flying ARC can be easily spawned close enough to the ground to explode them for free loot. I'll keep figuring this out until I can share a reliable guide on how to replicate it. The longer the tech stays off mainstream platforms like Youtube or X, the longer it'll probably stay before it gets patched.
See you next time on The Spectrum™
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>>550175167
until it breaks from durability loss in 3 mags, sure lmao. Its more of an anti raider weapon tho.
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people watching is so fun
https://files.catbox.moe/lmhqba.mp4
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>>550176156
Were you getting shot inside the spawn?
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I'll fucking do it again.
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>>550175764
Based sperg
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>>550176386
No clue where those shots were from but there were flares going up in that area all game.
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>see someone get ratted in buried city night, flare bounces inside the building
>he's talking shit to the rat, im close, this is my chance for a heroic moment, i even have a defib
>shot is 0.001 seconds too slow, rat finishes kill animation before going down
>it's a little kid and he starts screeching like a maniac
>mfw
It played out way cooler in my head. Oh well, walked away with 75k worth of loot from their bodies.
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>>550176495
At least airshaft extracts are safe compared to elevators and the metro. Metro is by far the worst.
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If aggression based matchmaking is true and there are 100% PvE only carebear lobbies, then doesn't this prove a PvE only mode would work?
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>>550175347
I really appreciate the offer friend. However, I'm a bit indisposed and can't play right now. Even if it does work at letting you knockback the shredders and faceroll one to death, I'm not sure if the osprey is worth it. While cheaper from an ammo cost perspective, I hate that the osprey basically loses one durability per shot. I think it takes ~10 shots to kill one shredder. That's a lot of time to fire a bolt action weapon, and you'll be in trouble if there are multiple shredders in the room. Once the attachments are factored in, i don't think the osprey I is even that much cheaper than a hullcracker I. For now I think I'll just keep running the hullcracker.

>>550175439
I need to make a reference sheet to quiz myself on what routes are the best to traverse to location A given starting point B. For atrium, I think that the access points are:

>hallway on NE side of atrium connects to business center
>hallways on N side connect to lobby (unsure which floors of lobby. IIRC the doors have breach barriers on them)
>accessible from NW hallway that passes the staff room (a breach room worth checking out if it hasn't been looted yet).
>the East side of atrium has a stairwell/zipline that connects down to near seed vault
>there is a ladder vaguely on the west side of atrium that sends you down to the sandbox...I need to double check the location of this one. I know the ladder exists but I can never find it when I want it.
>from the cargo dock, there's a vertical zipline in the SE of cargo dock that sends you up to the top floor of cargo dock, and at the north east side of that is the aforementioned staff room.
I think that the sandbox is worth visiting. There is a sec breach in the central control room that IMO is uncommon for people to visit. There's also a triple battery door at the north of the sandbox that nobody ever opens containing some containers and another sec breach. Still need to memorize the battery spawner locations.
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>>550176819
Carebear lobbies aren't 100% safe. They always throw in a couple of hostile players.
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>>550176857
Also, I think communcations room is involved some way. I haven't bothered with communications much.
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Okay, so I can kill other players. But why? Why would I want to do that? It's objectively more profitable to just not kill each other. One survivor can't walk away with ALL the loot of all the dead people.
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>>550176453
Can you dodge roll out of it if you do it immediately? Or is the blast radius too large? Is the mine glow visible from the other side?
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I just got attacked in the past three games and beat them all three times. Does this mean I'll be put into pvper lobbies now for defending myself?
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>>550177383
Sorry. By demonstrating the ability to take the heat, you've been put in the kitchen.
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>>550176743
you avenged the guy, and you made a little rat-kid mad, you did plenty anon, feel proud.
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>>550176819
A PvE mode could definitely work. We'd just need a denser ARC presence, upgrade the ARC AI a bit to get them to collaborate and flank you so that you can't effortless cheesy them with a bit of cover, and add in some reward structure to encourage players to team up. Something where fighting gives some value after the raid instead of purely getting value from being the first guy to loot the corpse.
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>>550177371
You can dodge roll out of it if you pick the correct direction, you can angle the barricade for the mines to go towards a certain place, you never know which side it is angled towards until it's too late.
Also you need like very good reaction time, see >>550138070
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>>550177371
I'm not him and I haven't done the trick yet, but the main thing with his trick is that it targets what normally is the "safe" way to open the door. IE, take cover next to the button to open the door and then slice the pie to clear the room. Normally the mines are mounted along the perimeter of the door, and they can be cleared by usage of explosives or stepping foot barely through the door before dodging back outside.

If someone was expecting this configuration, maybe they could dodge away if they stood smack dab in the middle of the door to press the button before dodging to the side of the door that doesn't have the button? But in a vacuum opening the door in that fashion is retarded and opens you up to being lit up by gunfire.

If you have your own barricade kit, you can probably deploy it in such a fashion that it would cockblock the mines and give you cover to work with after triggering the mines.
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>trials refresh with patch instead of tomorrow like usual
It's like they're intentionally giving people less and less reason to come back to this turd.
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Retard who bought this game yesterday and regretted it here.
I wasn't really having fun until someone started talking to me using proximity during a night raid. We ended up forming a possie and looting buildings. There were four of us in total. Then I realized I wasn't getting any loot because there were four of us. Then I realized that if I followed the guy without a mic into another room and I shot him in the back of the head while he was looting I could say he tried to betray me and they'd believe me because I was talking the entire time and he was being a shifty silent guy. So I killed him and he had two blueprints and the other guys just believed me lol.

I think I understand the fun of this game now.
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Got ratted mid-extract where my character finished using the extract terminal just milliseconds before his bullets downed me, so I still made it out safely

I was unsure at first whether this was a "just getting damage" situation but the more I think about it you wouldn't do that before the guy is finished starting the extract, and if you did you certainly wouldn't make it that close. And the way he said "sup man" on the way in was a bit menacing. I think the fact that I briskly sprinted into the train and got straight to business initiating the extract is what saved me
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>>550178461
you will soon realize this isn't a game that welcomes rats
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>>550178461
Based sociopath
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>>550178567
its always a gamble, i bum rush into the extract asap, its saved me more than its cost me. I've seen extract campers fuck up and miss the opportunity to kill me because i was quick more than once.
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>>550177274
I’ve asked myself the same thing.
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WHERE'S THE EXPEDITION WINDOW, MANSLY?
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>>550177274
>>550178921
that's the intent of the game btw
killing players is much easier than killing arcs, you can do it with a kettle 1 or a stitcher 1
and because it's so easy and unrewarding, it disincentivizes people from just turning the game into a battle royale
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>>550179097
>unrewarding
Bait
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>>550179097
Throwing a green extendo mag on those weapons is like turning on cheat codes, I still can't wrap my head around how imbalanced this shit is.
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>>550179217
99% of the players you will ever kill will drop either a free kit augment or piles of garbage while the good stuff is in their ass
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>>550177274
This game is funded and built for the Asian market. They don't ask questions like that, only cheat to take everything they can even if they can't or won't use it.
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>>550179017
Three days lil chuddie.
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>>550172091
They broke the queues earlier and for some reason it's mixing group sizes all over the place right now. I don't think I've gotten in a single actual solo lobby in hours.
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>>550179287
it's not imbalanced, it's intended
you make killing players easy and accessible even to the biggest of noobs, it quickly loses its luster so players pursue other things
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my wife gingy is streaming right NOW!!!!
we put her mudshark child up for adoption and now she's free to be with me!!!!
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>the exact same late spawn in a fully looted assembly again
thank you embark
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>>550179726
just kill the guy who looted everything and take it off of him, how is this hard or even a problem?
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57/66 quests down, i better get a nice hat.
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>>550179726
Use your snaphook to loot the gun cases in the assembly rafters.
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It's fucking 10 degrees farenheight with 2 feet of snow where I live right now I don't want a snow map I fucking hate the snow REEEEEEE I want a tropical paradise map please or an explorable sparanza where I can make Celeste my wife
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>>550179787
he's already out through the raider hatch by now
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>>550178653
Its just a videogame xd
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>>550176819
Theres some NPCs in carebear lobbies that look human. Thats why they all wear similar skins and dont use voice chat.
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why the health and medical system in Tarkov is better than in this game
1. you need to eat and drink in tarkov, and you can die from starvation and dehydration in the middle of a 40min raid easily
2. carrying weight, running, etc... all affect the rate at whcih you lose hydration and food
3. each body part has a health bar, adn can be damaged individually
4. when a body part reaches 0 hp, it becomes blackened and cannot be healed back up using normal meds, it also loses its function. blackened legs prevent you from sprinting, blackened arms make your aim sway when ADS, blackened stomach drains hydration and food faster
5. you need to use trauma kits to restore a blackened body part, they take a long time to use but can ensure your survival
6. alternatively, using painkillers will temporarily restore functionality to legs and arms at least
7. if you get hit again on a blackened part you die, even if it's just a leg, which is how the "leg meta" works
8. there's a multitude of injuries: bleeding, shock, fracture. each one requires different meds like bandages, splints, etc... higher tier medkits combine with it painkillers, bandages
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Imagine being Embark and listening to this boomer retard, who immediately changes his mind and pretends like he isn't the reason the expedition skill point cost exists. I hate fucking streamers so much its unreal. I guess it could be worse, they could be listening to tryhard former Fortnite players, but this is still pretty bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g5d1L400Fs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jg00eRNzw
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>>550181402
better than listening to people in this general
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>>550181402
The nerds that dev games think streamers are cool even though they're the ones providing the actual product and content for streamers to leech from. Hence why Nikita being a fanboy of Pestily, Summit and others is cringe as he spoils his game for them and balances around their crap.
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>>550181402
lmfao this guy is a joke. dont know why they added him into games and give him gigs(voices in cyberpunk, bg3 and kingdom come)
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>>550181742
I didn't realize he was in KCD as well. Holy shit, does this guy have the video game devs' version of the Epstein files or what?
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A lot of people in Stella have been asking me where the sandbox is.
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>>550182261
i dunno him and allanah pierce are just part of the same pod of people.
hes just another old fuck with safe opinions
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>>550181314
>look at all these terrible features!
>aren't they great!
no, they're shit, i respect my time too much to even think about playing your aim-bot fest of a game. Stop shilling your dogshit game plz :)
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>>550178461
this is what The Thing should have been.
imagine if they had a system where you are randomly chosen to be a faggot and you get rewarded for kills and extracting safely like trials.
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>>550182710
>what if arc was among us
Uhhh how about no.
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>>550183118
>what if amogus but were all get to choose to be a traitor for no reason
yeah an even better system!
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Mine sisters, our response?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN0FCrfbad8
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>>550181402
>>550181742
>>550182261
If you watched even a bit of his streams, you'd be absolutely horrified at how insanely parasocial his core audience is. Like holy fuck PirateSoftware has nothing on him.
Even with that, even he has some standards - he did drop AssCreed Shadows like a sack of potatoes.
As to devs listening to him, it's not just him, he's just the voice of thousands of dumbass plebbitors.
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>>550174051
just assume you have less than a million in stash and grind to 5 million coins
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>late spawn stella in assembly
>guy standing on engine
>say hello to him
>jumps down and two pumps me with toro
I don't get it. I literally only had a kettle, basic aug and shield, and 100 rounds of ammo, which is like 20k total value? He couldn't be killing me for gear, and it's not exactly thrilling to kill a non-hostile.
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>>550184054
maybe you should have been a good boy for the matchmaking algorithm. ever thought about that?
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Why does it feel like this game punishes you for doing anything other than manically running through a building, getting everything you can get your hands on then running to the exit as many times as possible.

Literally any other style of gameplay is a huge net negative.
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>>550184127
I literally never engage first. Don't tell me self-defense is treated the same as aggression for the mm?
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>>550184054
it's stella, people go there just to pvp
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>>550184538
The only way to avoid psycho lobbies is to present your asshole for fucking when you meet a psycho. Fighting back makes you a psycho too.
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>log on
>no queen or matriarch available
>log off
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>>550163697
I was heading to extract on blue gate, and I noticed another raider noticing me and he ran into a bush. On local chat I said, "I see you hiding in that bush, please don't shoot me," and some guy I was completely oblivious of came out of a bush right next to me. With how prevalent third partying is in this game, sometimes the safest things to do is make your presence known. As soon as three people are all aware of each other, nobody wants to initiate a 2v1 or get third partied themselves.
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>>550182334
I don't know why, but I swear that nobody gravitates down there. I can usually depend upon the control room sec locker being intact.
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I've had enough of being ratted on extract. From now on I'm downing everyone I see there. They can come with me, I just don't want them walking around.
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seeing a lot of people tryin to prove the matchmakin algorithm exists by doing like 10 rounds being nice like thats a good pool to determine anything
about to make a video seeing how often people shoot me when i announce
>if you shoot me you're gay
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>>550185172
It will never happen. Works 100% of the time.
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i got 4 power rods what should i do with them?
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>>550185447
you can use them to make heavy shields if you have the recipie. Up to you. They're valuable on their own, you can vendor and buy a good gun with them.
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>>550185545
what about that room on the electrical part of the dam?
i need to make 4 mill
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>>550185616
It's an alright addition if you plan to loot the servers + SB in power generators, so might as well grab the PR room.
Not a massive bank but it drops good med items and you will make more than you spend if you get a couple of sterilized bandages or vita shots. You can also get vita spray from that room. Also it always spawns at least 3 lubricant for oil as far as I know.
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>>550185172
I do this and it works or calling them a pedophile
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>>550185870
think ill just sell and spam stella montis honestly. dam spawns can just fuck you over if you're in certain parts
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>>550185870
Forgot, it also spawns tier 2 weapons there.
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Are there any skins that scream "This guy is a rat"?
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>got into the friendlyfag lobbies
>consistently leaving Stella with full pockets and no blood being spilled
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>>550186389
Ryder 100%
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these pieces of shit kinda snapped off on one end connecting to the headrest part so i dunno i might be out a mic now
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>>550187623
Go away streamernigger pajeet employee
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>>550187743
Meanwhile I've been using the same Sony Golds I got in 2015. Shit battery life though
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>>550187964
yeah these headphones dont have any swivel on the cup parts so they just kinda snapped from puttin them on and off over time
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>>550187980
>have to be a member of their trannycord server to get updates on game status
i hate the anti christ
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>doing my trials last second
>hop into a night raid space port
>late spawn
>come across a dead raider next to a dead bastion
deadline bros.. please just pick up a wolfpack
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>doing a comfy carebear lobby Stella run
>hear a weird beeping
>walk to it and find something on the wall with several weapons and ammo inside of it
What was that lads?
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Coming to this game from fortnite, the people move like slugs. Easy picking for any people switching games.
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more than anything else, queue times no longer being super fast is killing my desire to play the game.
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>>550187980
even practice range matchmakin is borked kek
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>>550186479
yep, retards who say it doesnt exist are retarded
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is my mic not supposed to work on practice range or something
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>>550186479
Welcome to Chungartha my friend.
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>>550189281
The practice range is a place of silent reflection
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>>550189376
im testing my back up Headset RIG 500 PRO HC
and can get the audio but i get the slash through the microphone during prox chat on the ol xbock series x
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>>550188463
One big boom is one slot, 3 small booms is 3 slots, ass is not fat enough.
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>>550188463
I didn't get the wolfpack blueprint until an anon gave it to me
and then I finally got one today
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>Gingy and friends trying to grief people doing the matriarch
>sudden viewership drop on youtube
even the viewers would rather watch them FIGHT the matriarch/queen instead of killing other people trying to do it
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>>550189612
>>550188463
Trigger grenades are safer and easier to use.
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>>550190950
>safer
>when you can throw WP from behind cover
>easier
>when shit's literally homing
Bait
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>>550191129
Trigger grenades follow a ballistic arc. you can throw those from behind cover too. You also don't need to worry about the wolfpack wasting a chunk of its payload to hunt down some random wasp or tick. I can understand using wolfpacks for rocketeers since they fly, but trigger nades are the path of least resistance for bastions/bombards/leapers
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https://youtu.be/nrjRhOfgH7E
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>>550191383
yeah pretty retarded of them to do this
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>>550191383
good to know
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>>550191326
>throw a WP
>wait for 3s for it to kill all the small fry
>throw the other 2
>bombadier/bastion is ded
I see no issue. All it takes is literally aiming up a bit.
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>>550191806
You know what, if you're happy with it then just use the wolfpacks.
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>>550191894
Ultimately you're making much more noise with trigger nades while also taking more setup time putting you in more danger. You can keep the yellow aggro state if you drop them from high up enough but then it becomes harder to execute.
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>>550186479
Yeah it's bretty great. A round prior to this I got the survey that asked how I liked the pvp, but I didn't have any. I just said I hated it. I was paranoid the algo would take that mean to mean I hated the lack of pvp and toss me into the shadow realm so I used a free load out a couple times, but it's even more friendly than usual. Eveyone has coms people playing music etc
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>>550191383
i need all the money i can get ima get those gay rewards to sell
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>>550192281
You don't need to detonate any of the trigger nades until after they're all planted. If you're worried about attracting third parties, the wolfpacks put on the bigger show.
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>>550191603
that's just how i'm going to approach embark from now on
>yeah it would be pretty retarded of embark to let a free kit weapon outclass every other gun in the game and completely break progression
>yeah it would be retarded of embark to nerf PVE loot values
>yeah it would be retarded of embark to let people use a static zipline to get out of the map and not remove it for weeks
>yeah it would be retarded of embark to drop an insanely high goal for the maxed out expedition just two weeks before it happens
>yeah it would be retarded of embark to not drop a weekly patch with simple balancing and leave the game to rot in the worst state ever because swedes are le tired or some shit
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>>550188937
Dont know but that haul is based. Is that how supply drops work in there maybe?
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>>550192429
You don't but it draws the ARC aggro as soon as it sticks, I previously mentioned that you can avoid it but it also makes execution and positioning harder.
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Damn I paid 50 bucks and wasted 100 hours on Fortnite 2 because these swedes are incompetent as hell
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>>550191383
what the heck is flickering flames
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>>550193162
We really got duped into paying for Fortnite Extraction Edition, huh. Most of these live service games are free for a reason.
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>>550193220
think its like the same shit we did for the bungulator slipknot outfit
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>>550193220
Probably going to be a fortnite storm mechanic where the snow closes in and the map gets smaller and smaller.
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>>550193470
oh nice
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>stella montis is full of kosnigg- ACK
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>>550194073
>-103,880
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>>550186479
>Been playing nice doing Stella runs, helping people up or extract, that kind of thing
>Get put into obviously chungus lobby
>People coming up, asking if I'm friendly
>One guy even asks if my mic is muted, and says it's sus to not react (I was muted)
>Everyone getting along
>Plenty of loot to go around
>Came in naked, and some random guy sneaks up directly behind me, flashes his lights, and drops me a venator
>Regret coming in naked, because I can only carry so much loot to extract
>Embark asks me to rate my pvp experience
Okay, chungustards, you win. It feels like cheating, but I prefer it to the Shadow Realm which is practically unplayable.
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>>550188937
someone triggered the color mini game and didnt bother to go find it.
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>>550194073
+62k wasp trial score
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>400k in 2 hours
damn can't wait to get 2 skill points on reset...
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>>550194603
meant for
>>550194137
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>>550194603
How does one do this?
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>>550194709
Its not lookin great for me either man I should keep goin, but I dont want to play anymore today. We still have a week.
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>queue solo
>get put into duos
what the fuck game
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>>550194786
trios with stacks of snitch scanners and shoot every snitch you see so it comes and spawns more. wolfpacks help as well.
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>>550194709
>just go to stella montis they say
>get 50k average they say
>always have like 20k average
what the fuck
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anything to spend seeds on to make money or do i just sell the seeds?
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>>550195627
sell the seeds
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>hes in chimpout containment and not the chungus loot palace
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Anyone else like screaming conflicting messages into the proximity chat? Like saying friendly while killing someone or claiming someone shot you first while multiple people around so they get confused and take time to react?
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>queue stella solo
>get put into duos
>queue into stella again
>its nightmode
the fuck game...
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So let me get this straight. Just because someone had the game before me, they get a head start on PERMANENT bonuses for the next season and I get jack shit?

Nah that's not fair. They should clean the slate entirely.
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>>550194709
I'm gonna go for 3 points and ignore the skill points entirely from now on unless they change how this dogshit system works
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>>550196351
I'm not a psychopath, no
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>>550197093
It's a game dude. You can just act like a psycho without being one.
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>>550197298
"acting" personalities is actual, clinical psychotic behavior
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curious how every kos nigger even in friendlier lobbies are always either picrel, some brown creature or أحمد يوسف بنغالور
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>>550197440
I mustn't be a psycho because I'm completely unable to act like a give a fuck about your opinion.
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>>550196351
I'm not a jew, so no.
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>fire 60 limp round through an attachmentless Bettina 1
>-50% durability
Yeah I see why nobody uses this or any of the other pink guns. They all lose not only numerically and through accessibility + cost, but the gray weapons also literally just have better uptime than the fancy guns. How does this make any sense whatsoever? Even in a pure PVE vacuum this is beyond retarded.
>>550196351
>the jew cries out as he strikes you
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Bros, I just boughted the game, what am I in for? Any "must do before x" FOMO?
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>>550198242
refund immediately.
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>>550198242
>buying a $40 fotm a month after release when the game has lost 45% of its playerbase cause its run by incompetent retards
Refund immediately bro.
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>>550197648
Lack of empathy is indeed another trait of psychopathy
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>>550197594
>im gonna dox this KOSer's profile name and mr 4chan will harass him
and this is supposed to make him look like a retard right anon, not you? specifically not you?
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>>550198560
AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>550198560
stop lying, the peak has only dropped 28% which happens to every game ever
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>>550198242
Just kidding. I hated this game when I first got it, then I realized it rewards me for being a psycho.

Pro tip. Don't murder near the elevators, you don't know who's watching.
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>get curious and look up what cheats are/can do
>a lot of extra features like looking up specific containers, aimbot, even arc tracking
>"damn, you can really just cheat this much for buying a tool"
>wonder how much it costs
>its a subscription
>$10 for 1 day
>$30 for 1 week
>$60 for 1 month
wow people who cheat are retarded
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>>550199453
If you learned to code and lived in a country where the law can't touch you, you could be making this kind of money.
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why do i keep being put into night raids on stella when its not even available on rotation
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>when the no-mic stitcher 1 who kills you also turns out to be a level 4 steam account with a totally empty steam profile except for his real name
https://files.catbox.moe/ocovmq.mp4
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>>550198994
It's over bro. It'll continue to hemorrhage players while the devs make increasingly incompetent decisions. Now please be sure to purchase your $45 t-shirt and spend more money on shitty cosmetics so the game's servers stay up.
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>>550199968
why would anyone buy a lgbt shirt
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>>550199884
God I love Audrey Hepburn so much its unreal. In 15 years she's gonna be my AI gf and there's nothing society can do to stop me.
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>>550199548
Why would anyone want to live in a shithole country?
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>>550198163
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that one of the dev's grandmothers was killed in some elaborate SAW trap that somehow involved tasking her to play tarkov and use a 9mm pistol to fight some PMC decked out in level 4 plates. His revenge is to make rare gear useless and scav gear OP.
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>too much of a carebear to KOS even when I spawn in at 17min
why am I like this
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>>550198826
that's actually a fake name i added through paint.net so maybe you should consider who is the actual retard here
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>>550191383
what is he talking about isnt it a window where you can do the expedition and reset, after that it closes like what? why would you do the expedition and then nothing resets until the 20th or whatever the hell he said. where is he getting his information?
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>>550194709
You have days left, the option to leave is 17th but departure is later I believe.

>>550195349
You're too slow.
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>>550200453
Unbroken Spirit, your light inside is not broken.
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>>550201824
He's talking about how we're getting a new raider deck immediately prior to the reset. Some of the options within the raider deck are packs of items. For example IIRC one of the packages in the first raider deck contained some snaphooks. He's warning people to think twice about redeeming any item rewards from the new raider deck before the account wipe strips those items away. The smarter approach would be to abstain from redeeming those raider deck rewards until AFTER the wipe. The swedes should have timed their shit better.
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>>550199168
>rewards me for being a psycho
Lmao, will try this. Sound fun.
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>>550202685
i think theres also the event where you earn rewards jsut playin like when you could grind the bungulator outfit and it rewards you random shit on the way
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>>550202849
I don't know if it's necessarily safe to assume that the cold snap event will be structured the same way, but you're right that it probably is the same due to swede laziness. That's even more hilarious. I can only hope that I luck into finding a new snaphook and or/BP for one shortly after reset.
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>>550202685
but the account wipe is player controlled? where is the information that everyones account that chooses to embark gets wiped at the same time?
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>>550202996
We control whether or not we wipe. We basically flip a switch that primes our account to wipe and then we all wipe together on the wipe day. I'm too busy playing gacha games to link you to a source.
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>>550090647
>queens on dam battle grounds rn
what other maps can i farm lightbulbs on?
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Psycho lobbies and chungus lobbies are a myth.
It's just players reacting to how twitchy and sussy you look. Psychos give off a hostile vibe that we can see without being able to articulate and thus get fired on more often.
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>kill a bastion myself
>spend 5 mins looting and sorting inventory
>go to extract
>someone shot a fuel cannister I ran by and proceeds to shoot me
>run and heal up
>see them coming and kill them
>some other dude runs up 20 secs later and kills me
>I ask why
>he says "because I saw you kill the other guy I dunno"
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>>550196195
Kek
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>>550199453
Now you see why Nexon enables this extra income shaving into China.
>>550196351
>perfidy
Reminds me of that Kyle kid that blew a guys arm almost clean off when someone was approaching him while he was on the ground and pretending to be friendly only to try shoot him in the back.
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>>550204235
still makes me laugh
>shoot three random commies trying to kill you, one of which is armed with a gun and the others with a skateboard and something else
>kill two pedophiles and (i think) a wife beater
incredible, really
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>>550204235
Still can't believe reddit thinks he killed a bunch of black people.
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>>550201107
definitely not you
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>>550200173
genuine question
if you could bring in tons of first-world dollars doing retard gamer shit on your home computer, and the only cost is living in a shithole country that you'll never need to interact with because you live on the internet, whats the real downside?
most of the shithole country problems can be avoided by just never going outside except for food
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>>550194603
Thank you. Got 32k because I was too chicken to bring all my scanners on the first attempt. Still quite happy about it anyways.
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>>550199453
>cheating in a game where gear doesn't matter, where rank doesn't exist and where loot is infinitely generated
Yeah you'd have to be a pretty big retard, but that's exactly what we're dealing with: mouth-breathing retards.
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>>550196351
happens a lot. i got into a duos queue somehow as solo and they thought i was one of the other two who died in a 2v2

we need the counterstrike mic symbol over peoples heads or something
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>>550205213
home invasions?
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>>550205525
gun
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>>550205525
those also, if not especially, happen in first world countries
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It's time to make the Arpeggio into a murder machine.
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>>550205629
>>550205734
>not emoting Dont Shoot and I'm Friendly irl
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>>550205629
Are you a favela monkey that's used to those awful conditions or something?
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>>550102023
PvE players don't actually want a PvE game. They want to loot garbage in a pretty environment while socializing with random people and occasionally engaging in light low risk PvE if they feel like it. They would not actually enjoy a PvE only mode with the Arc tuned to be the primary threat because it would be oppressive and stressful.
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>>550205629
3rd person corner peeking doesnt exist irl and they are probably freekittin too and will hurt you in the process
then what?
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>>550206763
The threat of pvp has to be there otherwise interacting with other players has no risk and isn't as exciting.
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>>550206985
This. If there wasn't the risk of a psycho popping out at any moment the game would be excruciatingly boring. Like actually ridicule worthy bad.
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>>550115110
Average for a normal person clicking regularly is 4-7 CPS. Good players using technique will hit 10+. If you were at 6 CPS and your opponent was at 12 (and likely hit multiple headshots on you) he would kill you much faster exactly as you described.
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>>550206714
>>550206918
god damn modern americans are so cucked
yeah, no. you're right, i should hide in my closet and call 911 and hope they get there in time to save me
>>550206634
LOL
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>>550123945
You don't want PvE. You want to easily kill the AI when you feel like it in a pretty environment. If they did a PvE mode it would need to make the Arc more numerous and aggressive. Instead of just meandering around they would need to actively be hunting for players and being the aggressors with fucked up combinations like Bastion + Shredder or a Bombardier with a swarm of Pops and Fireballs to constantly force you out of cover. You would hate it because you don't want actual PvE either. What you want is barely a video game.
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>>550138070
God third person is such dogshit
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>>550207794
here's a wild idea: live somewhere where you won't have to worry about home invasions
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It's pretty insane that loot isn't more randomized, whoever gets to "the spot" first gets everything.
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>>550208601
how many of those places would allow you legal impunity to fuck with corporations in other major countries like our hypothetical describes?
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>>550147291
The wholesome chungus casuals aren't actually here for the game. They are here for the social experience. The game itself is super mediocre otherwise. This game is basically VR Chat with extra steps to them.
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>>550208801
you are speaking as if VR Chat with actual gameplay isn't an idea that would sell gangbusters
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>>550206985
I completely agree with you. I am just saying the people demanding a PvE mode don't actually want that either. They want VR Chat with extra steps.
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>>550208782
I wouldn't want to do those shitty things, so your hypothetical is pointless
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>>550208924
It clearly already has. The problem is that the VR Chat with extra steps part of the game is in direct conflict with the rest of the game. The people that want PvE only are actually saying "this game really isn't a very good extraction shooter but I would love a VR chat like experience with casual PvE elements." Everyone else trying to play this like an actual extraction shooter is finding it lacking in staying power, because it is.
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>>550207794
you gonna bandage yourself irl too?
you're gonna have to go to the hospital right?
thats going to take your time away from gaming bro...
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>>550208924
I mean, it did sell gangbusters. That’s what this game is. What’s going to kill this golden goose is the Swedes giving every possible advantage to niggers who already have the inherent advantage that comes with lying and shooting people in the back. On top of the whole no actual progression and game breaking exploits of course.
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>>550209039
LOL then why did you randomly interject our hypothetical you strange retard
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>>550206985
i agree but im only shittin myself because all it takes is 3 seconds on average to die to someone competent.
id love a good ol firefight but it feels like shit gettin shot outta nowhere and lose half your life+shield
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>>550209213
>"The people that want PvE only are actually saying"
>"I would love a VR chat like experience"
literally no one said that but you
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>>550209291
>randomly interject
I'm >>550200173 and >>550206714
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Interesting, so blocking someone doesn't stop you from joining a game with them. I blocked this KoS retard earlier and still got paired with him again. Either that or queues are truly fucked and this is related to queue times and people getting put in games with groups as solos.
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>>550209851
the queues are pretty fucked. practice range has a queue for some reason
everytime i tried to queue stella id be put in a duo or night raid
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>>550209851
Blocking only stops you from getting them in random queue for trios and from using voip
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>check everyone's profiles
>almost a quarter of everyone encountered has been VAC banned or is a steam account made within launch window of the game
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>>550209545
exactly
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>join team
>no mics
>selfish loot faggots
>refuse to revive
EVERY... FUCKING... TIME
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>>550211535
i just troll looting bots until they block me.
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>get a surge to finally grind the 4 mill
>only gettin 20k runs in stella
>lose interest
ill just settle for 1 free skill point. im only level 48
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>>550211803
spaceport's pretty comfy, I just let the pvp retards kill each other while I loot in peace far away
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>>550209397
But it is indeed what you want. You want to
>Run around in a lobby
>Socialize with others
>Farm items without risk
>Engage in cooperative PvE
This is VR chat with extra steps. I don't know why you would feel insecure about wanting this as it is clearly very popular and exactly what you are asking for. You want a game where everything happens on your terms, whether that be fighting robots, looting crates, or engaging in socialization. This is exactly what the game is without PvP so what are you upset about?
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>>550211430
>exactly
You are the one that asked me the hypothetical, fucking mongoloid
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>>550212034
>>550212034
>>550212034
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>>550209261
This game is doomed because it tries to cater to two incompatible audiences and will end up alienating both trying to eat the whole pie rather than just taking the bigger slice.
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>>550211968
Your own replies interjected after the hypothetical was posited
How is this hard to understand
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>>550212209
Go back through the reply chain, monkey.
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>>550212298
try again
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>>550212518
You asked me the hypothetical and I replied asking why I'd want to live in a shithole country. What's hard to understand here? I didn't randomly interject, I'm the one you asked.
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>>550212623
>you asked me-
bold of you to assume I'll continue to entertain your circle logic bullshit, not even reading your replies anymore. I posited a hypothetical and you, how very cleverly, bitched and moaned and danced around it like avoiding the point was some special highground for troglodytes
ending this reply chain here
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Monkey.
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bros do you think this game will turn friendly again after the wipe
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>>550212930
It's mostly friendly still right now. I don't know what you people are talking about.

People have one night of bad luck and start blackpilling about how Arc Raiders is over
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>>550209851
>imagine thinking they would completely rework the entire match making system to keep two players separate.

If enough people blocked eachother it would make match making completely unfeasible.
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>>550214579
This has been done before, it isn't a new concept.
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>>550212930
it's friendly now, just don't shoot people
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>youtbe
>GUY THE BEST SECRET FOR BLUEPRINTS 100% EVERY TIME
>click it
>YOU HAVE TO DO BLUEGATE AND RUSH TO THIS BREACH ROOM AND KILL ANYONE ELSE WHO TRIES TO STOP YOU
>IF SOMEONE TRIES TO STOP YOU BREACCH THE MOST EXPENSIVE BOX IN THE ROOM AND PUT THE BEST ITEM IN YOUR SAFE POCKET
bro
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>>550217440
>youtube: the secret guranteed trick to safely get what you want
>look inside:
>just be lucky. Don't be unlucky.
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>wonder why guy I met was doing lush blooms for money
>youtuber: YOU SHOULD DO LUSH BLOOMS FOR MONEY
I see
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>>550217867
is there any point? you always late spawn into a map with all the baskets already looted
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>>550218767
I didn't watch the video so no idea, but i you get lucky then it's probably profitable enough to be like
>omg this works
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>>550217440
Ive never gotten any blueprint from a security breach locker. Ironically enough I've gotten the snap hook bp on the trashcan next to that breach room
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>>550219938
it's that room, apparently high chance for blueprints in all the other containers
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>>550220664
Yeah I get it but is there really high chance of loot there or is it just anecdotal "evidence"?
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>>550221024
I know it's the only source of that Survival mk3 blueprint (probably the only must have blueprint in the game besides wolfpack)

The only other way to get it is from trial rewards, I think it also has high chance for other stuff, but you can find those in other places, like the light stick blueprints
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>Gingy bought the black cock rooster



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