Data edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous Thread>>550093485
I think I hate my game but I also feel like I should just finish it.
>>550199192My data is objects.
man, there are only so many ways you can code something like an inventory, quest, or interaction system.do i need to care that my code'll look 70% like some other games for these things? it feels retarded to write something in a subpar or quirky manner just to make it look more original.does anyone care?
>tfw born too late to be a commodore 64 dev
i will never make it...
>>550199846just make it readable to you and consistent with the rest of your conventions and you'll be fine, don't reinvent the wheel bro just make a good game
>>550199997can you show me an example from your game?
>>550199837Isn't funny how we had almost lag free 128 player first person multiplayer shooters when half the people were on 56k? Whatever happened to that?
>>550199871do it and post it desu
>>550200036i have no game
>>550199871Not too late.You just need the ~right idea~
What's the best renderer library? Similar to how three.js isn't really an engine but a renderer, what's something like that but not for web? Preferably with plugins already like camera movement.
>>550200408unreal engine
>>550200456So I can use it as a renderer without the engine aspect? For example I wanted to program the multiplayer movement and physics all 100% on the backend and only use unreal for the frontend, it wouldn't include extra bloat?
>>550200169>Isn't funny how we had almost lag free 128 player first person multiplayer shooters when half the people were on 56k? Whatever happened to that?and 1000+ players on screen in mmos all moving at once on 56kbps connections run by a server 1/10th as powerful as your phone. meanwhile modern singleplayer games struggle when 12 npcs are on screen.
>>550200549How'd they do it?
>>550200627C and hand optimized assembly.
>>550200549It's pretty easy when you don't give a shit about players colliding with each other.You're just interpolating positions and syncing their state.And you reduce their update rate based on how far they are from the camera.
>>550200169Never happened. You're hallucinating. In fact, you're probably a zoomer and weren't even alive back then. Quake featured a max of 8 players. CS1.6 had a max of 32, which was really pushing specs and couldn't happen unless you were playing in person at a nicer Asian PC cafe. None of those games were unplayable over dial-up. That's why we used to hold LAN parties. It wasn't until DSL that real-time multiplayer was viable over the internet.>>550200549This is DSL era.>>550200627MMOs don't use player-to-player collisions. >>550200668You are mentally ill. You're just trying to cope with your inability to comprehend extremely basic software concepts.
>>550200815>This is the DSL eraNigga, 95% of the United States population didn't have broadband in the "DSL" era
The number of people struggling to play CS 1.6 and Battlefield 1942 on their 233Mhz Pentiums and 300mhz Celerons while on dial up, far outnumbered the people with a Ghz class CPU, Geforce 256, and DSL.
>>550200549Bitcraft had like 4300 people peak on one server and supposedly could handle tens of thousands. I'm learning the database they made called SpaceTimeDB to use as a backend>>550200815That makes sense then. So I want to include physics in my game such as rapier for rigid body, would I give players basic kinematics and non-collision and use rapier for the rigid bodies of objects? The DB I am using is meant to handle this kind of thing.
>>550200971Public libraries had free DSL connections since at least 2003 or so. I know because I only had dial-up at home until 2006 even when DSL was already popular because my parents knew I would only use it to play video games, and so I was forced to bike to and basically live at the library in order to play Runescape all day.
Is anyone here planning to make an MMO?No?Then shut the fuck up.
>>550201380You weren't out skipping school and hustling money so you could hang out and play CS1.5 all day the cyber cage, that's why you're NGMI.
just implemented fixed timestep technique to my sdl2 gaem. movement is jittery but i guess it's because i haven't totally implemented interpolation yet... thanks to the anon who told me about it some hours ago
>>550201381Planning? No. Doing? Yes.
>>550201713Based. Good luck.
>>550201713Post you're toons
C doesn't magically change an O(n^2) problem into O(n).
>>550201751
C might as well be magic to you, nodev.
>>550201778True.But I automatically assume someone coding in C is a 1000x more competent programmer than someone coding in Lua.Is this a fair assumption? Maybe not. But I think it's probably true.
>>550201913WE
>>550201913If this is actually your game it looks fucking incredible
Never met a single incompetent C++ developer but have several C#.Curious.
>>550201962It's not. Choose the right tools for the job. If the job demands a scripting language, use a scripting language. I'm probably one of the only anons here who has ever gotten paid to program in C for my previous careers as an embedded systems engineer. This retard >>550201924 only programs in C because he got filtered by basic OOP concepts. I've already programmed in both (and made far more money with both) than he ever will, and I don't see any reason you would choose C over C++ or similar performant alternatives like Rust for gamedev.
>>550202346who the fuck gets filtered by oop concepts? is that even possible
I've been working on my game since 1972. It's about to enter closed alpha.
>>550202234I was self taught in C and VB6, then I got to college right when C# and .Net came out and that was a major emphasis. I have had the same repulsion from it for 20 years now.
>>550202234Because if you're incompetent with C++ you'd have already blown your shit up and been fired.
>>550202424anon, define oop using linear algebraic proofs and not (((dog inherits from animal)))
Coding is gay as hell, but what are the langues I have to know to make it?
>>550202512>It was instantly obvious to me at 18 years old, that Microsoft was intentionally releasing dumbed down tools, then I saw the plastic Windows XP start bar for the first time.>Oh, these ones are for tards now>I better learn Linux
>>550202502...Do you play it on an oscilloscope?
>putting all the youtube tutorials you used to learn code/art in the creditsbased, or cringe?
>>550202594>>550202617If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
>>550202692Not cringe, but they might not want credit. Just donate to their channel or buy merch if they have it.
>>550202594what's wrong with dog inherits from animal kek. algebra is for autists
>>550202725gdscript is fine**if you're okay with your entire source code being open source from day 1 second 5.
>>550202807My entire code base is an amalgamation of free and open source example projects. Also, binary tokenization has been a part of core for over a year already.
>>550202346Idk if you're trolling but you use C over C++ because C++ is dogshit in almost everything it adds on top of C? If you wanna use classes you can make your own object system in C incredibly easily and I could even post one in this thread (if you want). You use C over C++ because you want to stay sane and focus on programming... yes C++ can filter alot of people and maybe that's a good thing. No one should have to put up with its complicated shitty rules. If you want an alternative to C, C++ is not it. Jonathan Blow wasted 10 years of his life because C++ was bad.
>>550203104Anon, you are sincerely retarded, and you cannot be trusted with mallocs. You also have no game, so shut the fuck up.
>>550202963>binary tokenizationyes, running gdsdecomp is the 5 seconds accounted for in the original post.even if dev goes further and tries to encrypt on top the key is stored in the game's .exe and can be fetched with keydot.all godot games are open source, unless run through some custom scrambler/encryption solution.
>>550203331At least it's nothing you'll ever have to worry about since you'll never have a game anyways.
fugg I made the mc's gf too hot and now I want to bang her
>you wake up in the jungle with nothing but amnesia and a gun
>the urges are back
>>550203813It's nighttime and there are dinosaurs hunting you.
>>550203813use gun on jungle
my developer name is going to be "Murder Troons"
>Send email>Person goes to Twitter DM to say the email is suspicious and they need me to say it's legitWhy? What's the worse that could happen with a 12 letter Steam key?
Far Cry with dinosaurs is my dream project. None of these free engines are great at foliage though which is the main thing holding me back.
>>550203813amnesia better be the name of the loli you have to carry on your shoulders as you kill a legion of hitler-dinosaur hybrids
>>550199683Should I share my game on 4chan? And how?
>>550204140>as you kill a legion of hitler-dinosaur hybridsHitler would want you to destroy racemixed abominations created from his pristine DNA.
>>550204140Nazis + Dinosaurs sounds like such a good game idea.
good morning and happy monday, wagebros.
>>550204826depressing
>>550204826I don't work until tonight fortunately.
Started manually working on the assets and scanning them for Mongol Rebirth. Made this out of office supplies. Just need to retopo it.
I'm working on a horror detective game and up until now it has been third person but I played Condemned and the appeal of first person has kind of grown on me. It's early enough that switching to first person isn't much of a burden.
>>550204826Can someone translate what that text says? Weebs come on show us the result of your japanese practice.
sons you must bring pride to the american indie game dev industry
>>550203530prospective devs deserve to know in advance that godot games are open source, that's all.the engine team itself neglects to make this clear in their promotional material, and none of the grifter youtubers making engine vs engine videos (know enough to) mention it either, leading newcomers to contribute to open source without knowing it.i don't mind, personally. my last 2 small projects are all godot/gdscript (except shader code), as long as the dev knows and is fine with it, it's fine.it's a lot like rape/sex, in that regard.TL;DR: juan is a rapist.
>>550205032Good to see you mongoldev
At what stage should you generally version lock? Should you do it immediately or is it okay to just keep updating the engine version of your game until later stages in development?
>>550205032The original.
>>550205229Depends on the engine desu.Unity is pretty bad for breaking shit between minor updates whereas I have been able to update every Unreal version without much effort.
>>550205237that your extra absorbent pad, princess?
>>550200237Absolute state of agdg
>>550205115>Are you looking forward to Monday?
>>550205115are you prepared/happy for monday/beginning of next week?
>>550205229Whenever updating becomes too much of a pain.
>>550205310>>550205486Yeah it actually is that straightforward, when you have enough code and updating gets too risky and breaks shit is the point you should stop updating. I was overthinking it.
how do i get good at character design?
>>550205409>>550205480Feels intimidating
>>550205693
>>550205737She looks like she needs correction.
>>550205224Thanks fren.>>550205320Yes, Imma obv a tranny.
don't worry about tryinglife is an idle gameif you wait long enough without doing anything, your game will just start progressing itself
How do I fix my Pong game? I'm using C btw.
>>550205229take it with a grain of salt from some retard who only has 3 unreleased learning-tier "games" under his belt, but the biggest factor in this decision is imo how good your documentation is.porting my slop was pure hell, but i've migrated up 3 versions in my newest project where every single line of code has a comment, and there's a separate .txt where i keep track of what does what, how it does that, and why i choose to do it that way.(i don't recommend coding like this, it's a learning excercise, mostly).
>jsonngmi
Gabencunt has took his pay...
Fatfuck gabencunt wouldn't even bother to bend over to pick up a $100 bill on the street.
heh... the imaginary characters in my game all agree with my politics... what now, chuds?
>>550206058You know exactly why I'm using json.
because you're a dummy?yeah...
https://youtu.be/7ZwEmxihlw4Maybe Godot isn't that bad of an engine
Fatfuck gabencunt wouldn't just bend over to pick up a $100 bill from the floor, he'd fall and roll all over it first.
>"fatfuck" gabencunt.>try to find out if gaben is even fat anymore, remember him looking sorta skinny last year.>half the images show him having lost a lot of weight.>half the images show him being fat as usual.is he oscillating? what is happening?
>ChatGPT>Draw a picture of a clown using these primitives and this JSON template
pooling kino
>>550206334oh yeah? well, all the imaginary characters in my game are caricatures of my misinterpretations of your politics
>>550205687she looks like she fucks black nodevs
>>550205687kanna...
>>550206447ozempic
>>550206447He took ozempic apparently so I wouldn't be surprised. They almost always gain the weight back as soon as the treatment stops.
I was aware of AI psychosis and everything before but not until the AI xisters started their shit here this year did I actually become aware how bad it is. I'm sure they would still be shitposters regardless but the way Pedro attempted and failed to make a game with AI in UE kind of proved to me that they aren't shitposting, AI actually sent them on a psychosis spiral where they thought everyone here was a retard for not using it to make games and when he himself tried he got a huge reality check. It's been quite nice without him here posting "our xesponse" every hour but it's because his psychosis got massively medicated by that reality check of being unable to make a tennis game. Fascinating.
>>550206684He probably could have powered through it if he just started with Pong, and added the big tiddies later.
>>550205737Ah, prolly she is streaming on Monday. Still, piss off.
Every time I open Godot, I take a moment to bask in the feeling of power. I imagine this is how God feels.
>Surface BreakerThe demo is now available on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4239500/Surface_Breaker_Demo/
>>550206767God wrote his own engine in C, pagan scum
>>550206767hold tight to that feeling, i lost this joy somewhere along the way.>month 1 gamedev.>literally a more fun minecraft/factorio, because the limit is defined only by my ability & imagination.>year 1 gamedev.>i can't be assed to refactor this bullshit to work with the other thing i want to implement / other menial work *goons*>>550206936grats, branno.
>>550206936Hey guys it's Branno.Good job buddy.
>>550192317This is a photograph right? Has to be.
>>550205983That's not retarded, that's a good learning experience. I did something similar when I was learning more advanced programming after school for a bunch of game projects and I don't think I would have ever gotten a hang of the more difficult but necessary stuff for games like data streaming and networking.
>>550206936Why is there no YouTube link on the right bar? Why does the YouTube description not have a link to this new one?
>>550207049
Gonna scan this once I get back home from work. And retopo it.
>>550206434Reminder that Godot doesn't have usable global illumination.
>>550207152this is AI generated you fucking nigger
>>550207171@grok turn this into an action platformer mario 64 style
>>550207152Unreal is a good looking engine but man does it have to run like ass in every single game.I could get over the lighting artifacts, upscaling and weird dithering if it didn't stutter every 10 seconds.
Why can't more of our schizos be like Nicu instead of Pedro, Joshua, and Nikolay?
How is an artist using midjourney okay but me a lone indie dev using ai voice acting not okay?
>>550206756>He probably could have powered through it if he just started with PongHe would just generate Pong in it's entirety with a single prompt. Which would do nothing to prepare him for the tasks involved in making his "real" game. I am 100% convinced now that we will not see a single vibecoder make a videogame here. It's not possible. What will happen is an actual gamedev will use it as a tool and not a magic genie and will make things as they already are across Steam and elsewhere. But even the ones who seem to be doing well like the fantasy elder scrolls looking game in /v/, I have no reason to believe that dev will actually be able to put together a playable demo (no offense to him). Vibecoders are truly fucked.
>>550207318At least we have Cris
>>550207393>fantasy elder scrolls looking game in /v/*fantasy dark souls looking game I need coffee.
anyone successfully swapped from godot default physics to jolt physics for a semi-complex project? any specific issues you ran into?t. scared
>>550207232I'd argue none of the big three do. Unity's is a baked lighting memory hog and shits itself if your scene is too big and Unreal's runs like shit and has artifacts everywhere.
>>550207152Mein Gott.>>550207234Proof?
>>550207393The technology isn't there yet but it will get better unironically, maybe it's worth trying again in 5 years. As of now, vibe coding starts off smooth but you WILL run into major issues after a few hours/days and ultimately waste so much time fixing the AI's mess that you would've been better off doing everything yourself.This recent paper looks promising for complex tasks: https://research.google/blog/introducing-nested-learning-a-new-ml-paradigm-for-continual-learning/
>>550207318At least Fygoon committed to leaving agdg and we don't have to see his spam everyday. I really appreciate that. I don't want to see his dinosaur anymore. That's enough for me. I am glad he respects that.
>>550207234>predates the AI explosion>is longer than 8 secondscope
>>550207598That makes me feel better after how disappointed I was when I tried to make my first 3D game in Godot. It still sounds like Unity/Unreal's GI at least works though even if it's shitty, while in Godot's case it's literally non-functional.
>it works
>fl studio goes on sale>maybe i should make my own gamedev music?>decide to look up instruments beforehand.>mfw a single (1) (one) non-shit sounding guitar VST is $150.this is what musicfags put up with, regularly?
>>550207779He starting coming back again a few days ago. Haven't you noticed the uptick in "what do Japanese cartoons have to do with that" and "fuck off bocchi" posts?
YOU FUCKING BITCH WHY YOU NOT BUY MY GAME BLOODY???
>>550208057kys tranny, you bosci tards always post literal off-topic garbage like "just took a shit"
>>550207598If Lumen is good enough for the game of the year, it's good enough for you. SDFGI in Godot is also pretty good. AFAIK, Unity gave up on their dynamic lighting solution (Enlighten) entirely? That's unfortunate.
>>550208057Not really but I haven't been living in the thread as much lately. When you step away from agdg for a bit 1800 posts go by really fast. Anyway the worst was seeing the same exact dinosaur pictures on every scroll of the page. It was unbearable.
>>550208057anime is fine, bocchi is not.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3694480/A_Game_About_Feeding_A_Black_Hole/Predict the 1 week review count.
>>550208378>>550208057Tranny samefaggot, you should kill yourself off.
I've been playing Hogwarts Legacy since EPIC gave it away the other day and it's fucking incredible graphically. A UE5 masterpiece. Zero performance issues on my 3060 with 16 gigs ram.
>>550199683Those stats are pretty good all things considered.Aggy daggy might not be a household name, but it beats the industry average.
>>550208560Shut up, Swiney.
>>550208551Take a break from 4chan it's not good for schizos to be constantly trying to catch samefags. Sometimes I reply to someone who writes similarly to me and think amusedly how it looks like samefagging, but only the most terminally in-thread schizo anons look for that kind of thing.
>>5502085152
>>550206464>tfw it worked
>>550208817mogs /beg/
>>550208248Lumen looks good at max settings in very specific, controlled lighting scenarios but it doesn't take much effort to break it.CryEngine uses SVOGI which is nearly a 10 year old solution at this point and it's far more stable, looks about the same visually and runs better.If I could go back in time and convince Timothy not to drop voxel GI I would.
>>550208248>SDFGI in Godot is also pretty goodIt really isn't, we're waiting an unlimited length of time for Juan to personally code up a better solution because apparently no one else is capable of ithttps://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/50770https://github.com/godotengine/godot/pull/86267
>>550208616No. Use my engine.
fuck my game exploded again now I have to start over
>>550208998Neither Tim nor Gabe is even aware /agdg/ exists.
Hey [REDACTED],I'm sorry about blowing up on you when you were just trying be nice about two months ago. I had no right to speak to you the way I did and I had no right to make judgements about your life choices. You're a great guy and you shouldn't have been treated like dirt. Hope you're doing well.Best,[REDACTED]
>>550208560Here's some facts:1) Hogwart's Legacy runs on UE42) Hogwart's Legacy uses a custom GI solution (not lumen) that mainly runs in screen space
>>550209050We'd all be surprised to know the true faces of those we've talked with in here, methinks.
I deserve it sometimes, it gets kind of addicting hitting rock bottom.
punch the keys for god's sake
>>550209083>1) Hogwart's Legacy runs on UE4Figures.
>godot runs on unreal engineYOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>550208515as a pro steam review guesser, I learned early in my career not to underestimate idle or incremental games. the capsule is ok, but doesn't evoke "black hole" that well. visuals of the game look quite clean, but bad because I want to see planets and stars sucked into the hole, not purple circles and red octagons. I'm aware this game has 30,000 wishlists and a youtuber creator. priced at $7-10 500 reviewspriced at $3-7 1000 reviews
>>550194663>still calling every GMI game in agdg "slop" and "streamerbait"Trying to dress it up by glazing another game does nothing. Your seething jealousy delights me.
would i be able to post here or on /v/ again even if ive made enemies out of all my old friends and repeatedly blown up?
>>550209920Hogwart's Legacy and Dead Island 2 are proof Unreal 5 was a mistake.>look and run great
>>550210106He does this with Wasteland Bites and Nuns
>>550210069Could hear Zukowski's voice with this one
My game will be as kino as Barkley Chapter 1
every time I try to run my game my pc immediately bsods
>>550208515>Predict the 1 week review count.It really depends on the price. I think it will make 50K gross revenue in the first week. It will be a respectable success but not the smash hit he was hoping for.
Another case of a game doing great during indie goldrush era, but flopping in today's market. I've never seen such a massive drop in sales for a sequel
In regards to making a GODOT project as secure from 'reverse-engineering' and ESL theft as possible, what are the Amateur Game Dev's(tm) best practices?
>>550211441use the n-word in your code and make sure to misgender would-be hackers
>>550211441it's impossible. it's the price to use godot. your game becomes hilariously easy to reveal
>>550211425I just looked them up, it's the same game twice which obviously is expected for a sequel but you know. Also 2016 was still fresh off the death of Greenlight and anything was still getting played.
>>550211441>tubgirl: the video gamefund it
>"progress"
>>550211425>gabencunt shills will defend this
Can you stop talking about Gabe Newell 300 times a day please. It's pathetic even as the most hardcore /v/ retard if you were to meme this much about someone, it's not funny, you're not saying anything. Shut up.Ritual schizos make this general truly unreadable.
>>550200319>make everything in pixels>paste big-ass cross in much higher resolutionI'm not even autistic but holy fuck, why?!
>>550212646Wendigoon is just kind of incompetent.
Can you stop talking about Chris 300 times a day please. It's pathetic even as the most hardcore /agdg/ retard if you were to meme this much about someone, it's not funny, you're not saying anything. Shut up.Ritual schizos make this general truly unreadable.
>>550179473>>550210106>I feel great, I have 10K wishlists so I'm invincibleGood numbers are not an excuse to skip out on emailing people. There's no shortage of games like Atomic Owl that have the numbers but fail anyway.
my game requires vr glasses to play
>>550200815>never happenedBing Starsiege: Tribes
>>550205032Decimated the mesh in blender.
>>550203927>>550203813>>550204140>>550204825don't mind me, just writing down that idea for the future
>>550212801I'm not the dev. Why would you imply the dev would ever shitpost you like that. Why are you guys like this. No dev is going to shitpost at you and bait your schizo stalking ass. You don't matter that much.
>>550205687I'm so over these retarded designs, you just know it was made by a retarded hi-schooler, cris-chan tier
>>550206070>>550206227GMhttps://vocaroo.com/17jnN65NLWrQ
>>550206936>mixelsI vomit. GZ on your progress though
>>550213041what is it? my mongol lore knowledge is too weak, agripa forgive me
>>550213637A gore surgery table.
>>550208040lemme show you the wayjummb.us
>>550203813https://youtu.be/o1tj2zJ2Wvg>starts playing the second you wake up>loops the entire game
>>550208057>/v/ dev thread>fagoon shits up the thread like always>someone comments that agdg is healing>two posts with russian alice show up almost immediatelyno, he's not here only because this place got fucked by other shitposters. The moment this place looks and feels like a normal gamedev thread he'll be back with his shitty opinions and awful attitude.
Do you STEAL money from the government for your game?Government is offering some money for new small businesses. Not everybody gets the money though.But you cannot spend the money on anything you want, you can spend it on:>buying PC hardware, software, licenses>hiring people, paying them, artists etc.>renting a place for the business>marketing, advertisements>coursesYou cannot spend the money as your salary.I think it's pointless.Why would I buy PC hardware? I already have it.Why would I buy PC software when I can steal it or use open source?Why would I rent a place if I can dev at home?Why would I go on courses when I am an expert?Only the marketing makes sense, but you cannot spend 100% of the money they give on marketing, you can only spend about 20% in this way.What if I hired a homeless bum as artist and he would give me the money back?
>>550211354he earned like 20k so far from his games. 30k net can let him cruise for a year on 6-8 months of work if he lives someplace reasonable. I'd be very happy with those kind of sales.my bet is 300 reviews for a week.
>>550204054https://store.steampowered.com/app/1645630/FEROCIOUS/good idea, just don't drop the ball. voxel trees in UE5 might help?
>>550209212>gabe shows up>asks innocent question>gets bocchi "success breads jealousy" answer followed by chain of 20 shitposts>leavesthat must've been educational, I wonder which schizo scared off John Carmack from here.
>>550214335fuck off
>>550214335Carmack is the one shitposting 'dites webm
>>550211425Ultimate Chicken Horse was featured in Dunkey vid, Ultimate Sheep Racoon was not. Jamie, pull the numbers of Untitled Goose Game, tht should clear things up a little.
>>550214029I really don't think so. By now he knows agdg is just the same dozen people and he isn't showing his lizard to anyone new. He wants the world to see his lizard game and that's why he posts in /v/ because he thinks it's still 2012 when he was a little kid and /v/ is still like the grand stage of the internet for videogames. So for him to spam his game in /v/ everyday is to him a huge accomplishment and means he's world famous. This delusion helps him cope. In agdg, he can no longer have any delusion of being a big deal here, nor would he even want to be.
>>550214648>He wants the world to see his lizard game and that's why he posts in /v/and not anywhere else mind you because on 4chan he can freak out and act badly and just dodge bans all day whereas any other website he would inevitably stalk and flame people and get his accounts deleted.
>>550214502Would be funny if that were true.
>>550214842Also there's like this incestuous cuddling that happens in /v/ where fygoon and some other devs give eachother backrubs all the time I really can't stand it but Fygoon loves that stuff it's what he needs psychologically on a deep level. That kind of cringe doesn't happen here.
>>550214401That's not a way to talk to a famous successful dev, Thomass Brush!
>>550215225>Thomasslol
>>550214648not really, there's now a big pushback against him on /v/, he can show up in any of the indie threads and sometimes even beyond them, and people are allergic to his opinions. He *might* get a sympathy point from a total newb that comes across the threads but his posting habits will scare even the most curious onlookers.
>>550215456>there's now a big pushback against him on /v/One anon babysitting him with the edits of fygoon killing himself isn't real pushback lol
>>550215620he isn't getting too much encouragement either
This is what the main character of your game should look like
>>550211354I forgot to mention, it's co-dev with a guy who goes by Thornity and takes 20% for balancing the tree/upgrade parts of incrementals.
Our clown?
>>550198802>no redditBased
Everyone is telling me make a single player game first but I have literally never played a singleplayer game cause I don’t like fighting against AI. Can you guys recommend me some singleplayer games that will change my outlook and inspire me? I enjoy fighting games and shooters, particularly arena shooters, but I’m open to fun titles outside these genres.
>>550199683>Ratings improved=Quality improvedYeah nah....The reason the ratings went up is that nobody is organicly buying these agdg games anymore and actually rating them on their merits nowadays and the only reviews these games get is from like for like trades from the 'cord which will obviously be upvotes no matter what the quality of the game is because its a like for like trade.
>>550216115Deus Ex, Metal Gearbut those probably aren't good for making your first game
>>550200668That'd probably filter the majority of modern day dev's. I do not see those days ever coming back, sounds like handicapping yourself while others get ahead without doing aforementioned handicap.>>550206989>>year 1 gamedev.>>i can't be assed to refactor this bullshit to work with the other thing i want to implement / other menial work *goons*Except for the gooning thing iktf. It's just such a hassle, I just want to finish the game and ship it, not spend hours refactoring. It's worse if you end up dropping the game, making that effort feel pointless.
Antiluddite xisters.. our bluff got found out. emergency meeting in one hour.
>>550216851Punjabi Midas touch.
>>550216851Why do I keep hearing about copilot all the time if nobody is using it.
I love that someone in /v/ is actually outraged that a game studio didn't make everything in their game and that literally nobody else in the world cares.
>>550216851I bet 90% of those who use Copilot, are forced to do so by their retarded CTOs who desperately try to rise productivity. I've seen that happen personally in two companies.
>>550217330Ask Copilot what is the difference between anecdotal evidence and empirical evidence
>>550217473The flowers and plants one is extra unhinged. Also nobody would ever recognize any of this stuff unless they were shopping for these assets on FAB themselves, then they come to /v/ and say the devs are jeets for actually being able to afford to buy and use the assets lol
>>550217473This is why all games look like slop nowadays btw
>>550217473/v/ is full of underaged retards and schizos who don't know anything about the real world
>>550216115megabonk
>>550217713>countless games in custom engines with their own climbing system and assets>you still call those slop too"gamers" like you are finally being completely ignored which is why we are entering the golden age. Thank you for your service.
>>550217473>team of people had millions and they couldn't even make it all themselves SOVLLESS
>>550217748That may be true but the majority of /v/ agrees that pocketwatching devs for the use of assets is subhuman behavior. /v/ has evolved upward.
>>550217473The problem is not that some game uses these assets. It's that all games use the same ones. Makes all AA UE games look the same.The oblivion remake is a great example, that's the most soulless looking game in recent memory.
>>550218028>all games use the same onesNo they don't.
>>550217473someone quick, send it to the OBEY THE FIST reviewer!
>>550218028>The oblivion remake is a great exampleOf a game that sold billions of copies and everyone loved? Yeah pretty decent example.
>>550217473Jim Sterling did untold damage to indie games when he went on his "asset flip" crusade.The problem with those games he talked about was never their use of stock models its that they were taking premade game templates and releasing them unmodified. That's what an asset flip really is. A game with unique gameplay that happens to use stock models and animations cannot be an asset flip.
>>550218385Not only did Jim go off the deep end but everyone else who spent their time asset watching is now an AI schizo it's hilarious. So they make arguments about how games should be allowed to use AI generated slop when they just spent a decade hounding everyone for using anything in their game that wasn't hand made.
I like my man TBRUSHs definition of asset flipping which is like house flipping, you take the asset and improve it and customize it for your game.
Don't forget to take naps if needed. If you're feeling a little tired and it affects your work, there is only one solution. The best way to avoid the onset of the sleepy cycle is to drink coffee I think, but once that sleepyness hits there is no escape.
>>550216115The Witness
>but what about muh E-CELEB though?
>>550218948
>>550218802house flipping only works when the renovations are done by underpaid illegals thoughwhat does that mean for gamedev?
Megabonk + Zog's Nightmare
This is fun. I like making my own tools.
>>550216129yet all cetespion negative ratings are from /agdg/ people, seems like the opposite of what you said
>>550217881Sourcehttps://howtomarketagame.com/2025/11/04/the-optimistic-case-that-indie-games-are-in-a-golden-age-right-now/
>>550216612>I do not see those days ever coming back,C, WASM, and WebGPU make broswer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt
>>550219504CTESIPHON won you lost
>>550219898>complain that people here gave it bad reviews>somehow I'm the enemyretard
>>550200668retard
>>550219504>>550219898Wtf is this person talking about? Also >clippy
>>550220098maybe some retarded euro keyboard layout? DZVORAK or whatever.
>>550220184*AZERTY
>nazi paperclips are leaving bad reviews!>where is Anita Sarkeesian when you need her?!?
So fucking transparent. You are own worst enemies, doesn't matter what the statistics can be manipulated to say.
>>550220098They have to be trolling, profile says they're UK. Anyone who actually used an alternate layout would be used to changing it in settings.
I'm not gonna bother with videogames.Going to use my gamedev skills to make something else, like a poker manga deck.
>>550221323>using a meme avatar image ever for any reason especially redditor political "movements"
>>550221946cris finally found his calling. the world is healing
>>550222014>>using a meme avatar image ever for any reason especially redditor political "movements"
when videogame enlightenment?
>>550222951me in the cage on the left
It works
>>550223083notice how the ai fixes the face shapeyou should fix your drawingit looks like shitim not a crab im just not hugboxing you
>>550223157
This Saturday is the /v/3 holiday special! It will be airing on:>YouTubehttps://youtube.com/@v3expo>/v4c/https://v4c.funJoin us as we end the year with the most holiday cheer this side of the blue boards. And maybe, just maybe, Eric Claus will gift us the true meaning of what it means to be a gamedev.
>>550225163I hate this zoomer meme, I WANT a job.
>progress
>>550225163I am employed jokes on you
dear future me, I posted some bazed jaks for my internet frens. hope you're having fun on your yacht thanks to my efforts.
I'm gonna see if I can find some work with some .io browser game studio, I could even work for $500 a month
>>550216851Well at least they completely fucked up the consumer ram and gpu market for nothing
>>550225163AAAAA NIGGERMAN HELP ME
I don't get it. This person has wasted 8 hours trying to catch a shiny magikarp. That number above her head is the number of encounters so far.How do you even incentivize that kind of thing? Does your game have to be popular first, and then you can add rare bullshit that players will waste their time on?Or is there a different incentive structure?Shiny hunting is the biggest waste of fucking time, especially in older games.
>>550225503i know who you are and i hate you
>>550225224This is basically just the entity system coded separate from everything. Now I get to attempt the fun part of tying it back into the larger framework. It's gonna look sick.
>>550225932Maybe the lesson here is to put some unique features that autistic freaks can latch ontoThey love extremely low odds to gain something entirely useless but cosmetically unique
you have no excuse
>>550226207I'm never going to let any of you play games. Get over it. The engine and games are my toys. Get your own.
>>550226207>relying on luck
>>550226301Have you finished any games?
>>550225940everyone hates me for me being me
>>550225932playground talk social status. >I caught a shiny magicarp after 12 hours of trying!>YOOOOOO MADMAN ACTUALLY DID IT WOOOO
>>550226319I finished *to* games iykwis
>I finished making my game after 12 years of trying!>'are you ok dude? please seek help'
>>550225932she gets paid to do itshe literally sits in front of her PC, has a coffee mug and a sweet roll on her desk and just pretends for her audience. It's for memes mainly. She couldn't care less how much tries it takes her, because now she has a braindead task and easy stream. She doesn't need to think for the next 8 hours what kind of a stream she needs to do. Literally easy money.
>>550226573>Literally easy money.i just checked and she has 15,000 live viewers right now lol
>>550226573here I was doing it for free. my team of 6 shinies.... nobody even knows about it.
No, I'm finishing the 15 games I still have source and assets for after 30 years. The first game I finished, and shipped on hand written floppy was in 1996.
I'll be honest.This is the first experiment where I say, fuck, this really has a huge potential.wtf.
I will make a Pokemon clone, but all my monster designs will be licensed under CC0 (public domain)
>>550227096What if Pokemon clone but with existing public domain characters
>>550226759damn, my first floppy game was 1999. I brought it to school lmao
>>550227207Steamboat Willie's Mickey Mouse as a pokemon? It could work
>>550226986this is good, but I think paring a gif of you dancing alongside the cat would garner a lot more (You)s.
>>550227264Yup, the kids on the playground didn't want to buy text adventure games for DOS in 1996 either.
>>550226573>she
I accidentally start programs in my task bar every day. today it was photoshop. yesterday it was reaper.
I'm getting high on my own product
>pokemon meets cuphead>but you collect cartoons that are in the public domain>release new characters to catch as more cartoons are added to public domain
>>550227469mine was a multiplayer metal gear ripoff. I never thought to sell it
>>550227808what if you captured them in old timey film reels?
>>550227954good idea. give gamers what they want
>post game on tiktok>get ZERO viewswhat causes this phenomenon?
>>550228702if I was scrolling on tiktok I see don't starve but worse and keep scrolling. needs something notable revealed in the zoom out. like a giant writhing snake encircling the whole camp
>>550134680waiting out a 3 day ban
>>550228962this wasn't the post but I get the idea, thanks
>>550228962but the problem isn't getting low views, it's getting 0 views, like tiktok doesn't even try
>gotta work extra hard pumping up muh tiktoks so people will buy my video gamewhat causes this mentall illness?
>>550229709no marketing budget, usually
>>550229773>tfw your marketing is just screaming into the void
>>550219504One of the negative ratings was a /vr/ tard, this was confirmed 100% upon release.
>>550229773Your game is your marketing budget. Make a good game, post it on r/yourgamegenre and let nature take its course
Wow! Would you look at that! r/SurvivalGaming/ gets 65k weekly visitors but only 5 posts a dayI swear some of you would struggle to tie your own shoelaces if it hadn't been drilled into you as a child
>>550230254B-b-b-but reddit is gay
>>550229864I know that making a good game is like %99 of marketing but I only have the steam page up with no demo and steam doesn't show it to people before you release it (technically it does but it is negligible), so I cannot collect wishlists fast if I don't post it anywhere. I use reddit too, first time trying tiktok
>>550230254is there a good list of gaming subreddits? I am a reddit noob. tried r/indiegaming, pcgaming, gaming, basebuildinggames etc until now
Name 5 games where the developer didnt already have a following before making the game and didnt advertise just shadow dropped his game randomly on a monday afternoon and the game blew up overnight just because it was good.
>>550230749I could tell you but I'd have to charge you
>>550230871>shadow droppedThis is the part where you're getting confused. Nobody is telling you to shadow drop your game
>Wow! Would you look at that! r/SurvivalGaming/ gets 65k weekly visitors but only 5 posts a dayand the retard can't even fathom the idea that maybe such a discrepancy between lurkers and posters is too severe, so there is a catch herebut then again what else would you expect from a low iq brown
>>550230871never happened
>>550230895agreed, just sent you a DM
My experience with reddit is posting shit that gets ignored entirely, and then they get mad that I'm trying to advertise
>>550230990ok fag keep grinding the tiktoks and the tweets and let us know how many of those bots who literally do not fucking care about your game end up buying it
>>550227808>you collect cartoons that are in the public domainSo instead of pokemon with millions of characters to catch there are like 2 characters to catch huh
>>550229858>tiktok = void
i've been studying this for a while, the meta is to design your media content for virality and include multiple calls to action to purchase/wishlist your game in the videojust posting gameplay footage isn't enough, you need to create some sort of story about your game that interests people, even if you need to exaggerate/make things up about your game, you'll be fine, players won't careyes, i'm saying do "false" advertising
>implying traffic on reddit is completely 100% naturalDamn this one is a unique case.
>>550231271ugh so this is why you see so many "this game took me 3 years to make and I had to give my dog a blowjob" type of posts
>>550231082If they're getting mad at advertising then stop posting ads
>>550231364Right, so I gotta come at em with a fake story essayFuck man I genuinely hate this kind of shit
>>550231348yes, unfortunately, it works very wellpeople love stories above all elsea bad game with an interesting initial premise will make sales, if people find the context of the situation of the game, they will force themselves to enjoy the gameall you need to do is present an appealing situation/context in the first 5 seconds of your videos to get all compatible viewers to continue watchingattention = successa balance between absurdity and relatability seems to be the key
>>550230254What are you implying with this post? That everyone is a retard for not making a survival game and posting on reddit with it? That's so arbitrary you could come up with a million examples of this. Stop huffing your own farts and make a game yourself weirdo.
>>550231275Shit? Really? So instead of 65k people browsing a genre specific subreddit looking for cool games to buy it's only some fraction of that? Oh well I guess it's back to making tiktoks that nobody will ever watch
>>550231348this is same on reddit too, I hate it. but anon isn't talking about this kind of "false" advertising
>mom, how did we get so rich?>dad A/B tested his tiktok videosinsane world
>>550231538>What are you implying with this post?I thought it was clear. Do targeted marketing to real people who actively buy real video games instead of sending out a random tiktok with some hashtags attached and hoping to hit the jackpot. Your shoelaces are open btw
>>550231592
>>550231753It was the whole "I swear you're all retards who have to be told" attitude that threw me. Lower your tone boy. If we want marketing advice and hot tips we can go to the king. Peasant.
>550231882>550231753He's talking to himself. What a weirdo
>>550231882which video game did Chris Suckowski make?
>>550231592You dont have to worry about what ur gonna tell ur kids in the future ur on 4cuck ur not gonna have any kids.
>>550229709>has shitfits about Nun dev going viral on tiktok>acts like he doesn't know what tiktok marketing isStrange.
NO WAIT! I'VE GOT A BETTER ONECHRIS SUCKOFFSKI
>>550231953a 2d platformer that flopped, named 1-screen platformer or something. this doesn't mean he currently doesn't know how to market a game
>>550231952>these posts are a crazy samefagger like me I just know itActually no you're just schizophrenic. Did you forget?
>back at it with projectionThe archive exists and it stored your freak out where you samefagged the thread after multiple people called you out.
>>550227808There aren't that many public domain cartoons that people care about just yet. Wait for another 100 years.
>>550232514Go little one, go run to the archive and dig up Zukowski.pngs and show the world. The truth must be known how many times anons like me dared to post the same image more than once. Your cause is just and true. You must bring me to justice.
>>550230254>5 posts a daylook at the picrel I just took
>>550231162Why are you so triggered.Oh, because it's marketing and daddy ZUK owns you.
>kvetching this much every time the archive is mentioned
Sent my first ever job application to a small game dev studio, showed them my projects. We will see.
>>550233014good luck to you friend
>>550219771indie golden age was like 16 years ago. no amount of cope is going to change that. the system has been optimized and gamified. it's red ocean as far as the eye can see.
>>550225932>I don't get it. This person has wasted 8 hours trying to catch a shiny magikarp. >That number above her head is the number of encounters so far.>How do you even incentivize that kind of thing? >Does your game have to be popular first, and then you can add rare bullshit that players will waste their time on?>Or is there a different incentive structure?>Shiny hunting is the biggest waste of fucking time, especially in older games.
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>550231952>550232514>550232994>crazy person mumbling to himself.jpgDon't stare at him kids. That's rude.
>>550233098You're talking to a deranged retard who shits on every dev here, and spams youtubers all day long. It's not even a sentient being, laugh at it but don't engage it seriously.
>>550233032Thanks, I think I have way bigger chances of making it with working for a studio than doing all the stuff on my own
>during the golden age I thought my games weren't good enough for steam>during the post-apocalypse I think they are too good for gamerspregreentexted that for you
>>550232753Contributions are posts + comments retard. They get between 5-10 posts a day and half of them are people asking for new game recommendations
>>550233367That means they were never good. The same goes for me sadly
>550233240>he is stabbing devs here with poison needles and he spams viruses here everydayYou're a mentally ill hysterical drama queen. meds.
>>550233098>indie golden age was like 16 years ago.Correct. Now we're in the attention golden age. Video games have been solved. The meta has been identified. There is room for growth in the realm of organic viral promotion. Your game will not make you successful. Your content will. Instead of relying on content creators to give you views, you now have the tools to do it yourself. This is huge. People aren't maximizing this yet. Give it a few years.
>>550226207>>550230254You're farming dopamine off yourself by telling other people to make games. Worse than a nodev, it's something else. There must be a word for it.
>>550233758>You're farming dopamine off yourself by telling other people to make games. Worse than a nodev, it's something else. There must be a word for it.
>>550233758>There must be a word for it.Fear. He is scared of failure, so he distracts himself by attacking others. Eventually he will finish his game. When it fails, he will change.
>>550233169good to see naked santa lives on
>>550233758Backseat driver. Monday morning quarterback.
>>550233758>>550233815>>550233887You can make him freak out just by posting any of his posts from the archive like these.
>>550233437no, my games I was making during the golden age would sell great in the current age, but I am not motivated to finish/reboot them
how to fix?
>>550233703>Your game will not make you successful. Your content will.my content? elaborate.
>>550233815Sounds plausible. Like he thinks a survival game posted on that subreddit could have a chance but he's not going to make it himself because he fears he can't and it would just be ignored like dozens of other games posted there. Much easier to just post his ideaguy stuff and make scoffing sounds at everyone who are actually making games.
>look at you bums you should be making an action roguelite and posting it in /r/roguelites >what would you do without me telling you to get to work? you lazy bums>you have to be told to tie your shoes you stupid bums Why is he so angy?
>>550233169Ten days...
>>550234096The promotional content you post on social media will make it successful. Exposing it in a positive light to the correct audiences on short form video platforms through designing such video content for algorithmic engagement via watch percentage maximization and high user interaction will give your game the attention it requires. This is the most optimal promotion strategy. The difficult part is ensuring your content is engaging to viewers without deceiving them. This can be alleviated by designing your game to have inherent potential for promotional appeal. A good example is the trend of successful co-op games. a low effort asset flip game with a few unique quirks can easily be presented in such a manner that causes people to send the video to their friends, saying "let's buy this when it comes out", along with ensuring the concept of the game is interesting enough to convince people to watch the full video to learn more about it. You'll also see low poly "dark fantasy" games going big on Tiktok, although not many have been released yet.Design a game with appeal. Promote this appeal on social media. Optimize content for high user retention and interaction. Views convert to sales.
is there a general for people who are interested in modding or rom hacking?
Fuck it. I'm making a gachaslop with AI
>>550234406I will miss it again. 3 years in a row. at this rate I'll never get to play it
>>550234538>moddingI think this general accepts mods. There's a guy who's making an Arma mod. Most posters support him. Some tell him to leave. It's a mixed situation. General threads on /vg/ might work. You could also just post about the game on /v/ and hope a thread gains momentum.>rom hackingNot here. Maybe on /g/. That's more of a technical discussion.
>>550234538>>>/vr/12239206
>>550234584>Fuck it. I'm making a gachaslop with AI
>>550234584>2 dopamine deposited to your brainCongrats on your nevergame. Felt good to talk about though didn't it?
>>550234665Anybody got an archive link to this article? I ain't giving ad revenue to some jew fuck.
>>550234498>so you're an indie dev huh? post game>no. happy birthday.
>>550233946>t.It's weird how he tries to insult everyone with that picture implying we are the african helicopter devs, but he also uses it to avatarpost. Like watch out everyone, that guy who talks down to us and shits on us is posting with that picture again we need to listen up!
>>550235136>what is adblock
>>550235136Seethe little goy.
It's THAT easy to piss him off, lmao.
Lower your tone boy.
>>550234070ez fix
>>550231953>Which omelette did the 5 star michelin restaurunt owner make?
>>550235991Notice the cutoff date....coward
>>550231953>when did the coach ever go on the field and score a point
>>550236160>>550236143>>550236093Saar how dare you insult my vishnu youtube deity saar I cast manys vishnu curses upon you saar
>>550236367>saar you are brown saar do not be posting of the youtube celebrities here saar you are brooooowwwncope
>>550236367>S-Stop giving marketing advice for free please, I need you all to shadowdrop into the void so my trash game can have a chance
>>550235136>saar do not be attempting to offer me valuable things in exchange for me to be seeing an advertisement saar you are broowwwwwnnnn saar I will take the valuable thing for free you are brown! I mean jew!
>>550236583>>550236601>>550237125Good evening saarsMr. Chris Zukowski has reported that 15 rupees have been deposited to your Kotak Mahindra account!Great success!
>>550237242you're not really making a point with this post
agdg. angry goobers debate gayly
>>550237242>Kotak MahindraAnon I gotta be real for someone who calls everyone else Indian you seem to be the expert Indian yourself I have no idea what a Kotak Mahindra is lmao
>>550236160Coaches are usually former players. Chris Suckoffski was never a game dev
>not studying other cultures to be racist more accurately
>>550237495You didn't notice how your post was samefagged? Come on, dude.
>>550231953>what airplane did the air traffic controller pilot and land on the landing strip? I don't need to listen to someone who hasn't flown the plane themself
>>550237619I only read (You)s
>>550237681>talks about card games being a dead genre>right before balatroon
>why would I listen to this fish radar that shows me where the fish are? I'm the one holding the fishing rod, stupid radar trying to show me where the fish are. I'm trying to catch fish here!
>>550237942Wow yeah the card games are totally a hot genre right now with all the hot releases lately like uhhhBalatro. Last year.
>Why would I listen to a proven expert? I'M THE EXPERT>OF EVERYTHING
For real though, what games has Zukowski actually successfully marketed? All his credit are just special thanks from devs who read an article on his website
Would delidding improve godot performance?
>>550237942>>550238431And wow someone didn't see Balatro coming even though there were zero popular card games that year? That's crazy. Most circles are blue but this one is red? Zukowski xisters oh no no no
>>550238697>>550238557>>550238189>>550237681uh oh meltie
>>550238573his private consultation is privatetiny glade thanked him in the credits after using his course.
>>550238748>his courseSo just another grifter then.The question is, why aren't jannies doing anything about this obvious, obnoxious shilling then?
>>550238881Are you dense?
>>550238748Tiny Glade mentions over 600 people in the credits
>>550238189Does this radar refuse to prove its efficiency by showing how many fishermen failed while using it vs not using it?
>>550238573>what games has Zukowski actually successfully marketed?Market your own game YA BUMOh no wait a minute I... let me just peek at your desk here and... oh... no game.
>>550238881>offering a product with thousands of happy customers is griftingI would've told you to stop developing a game since you're grifting but it's obvious you don't have one.
>>550208879Lumen looks like *that*? If I wanted that kind of blotchy unstable lighting I'd just fire up Juan's (now abandoned) SDFGI and be done(unless that's caused by sunlight filtering through animated foliage, in which case I can't fault lumen too much)
meanwhile in game design land...what first person game has the most satisfying dialog interaction? so many lock movement and zoom the camera and blur the bg behind the character you talk to. but idk if I want to do that
>>550238994>stupid fish radar trying to show me where the fish are instead of monitoring how many fishermen in the world don't catch fish! This thing is busted!
>>550239192>>550239003>>550238997>>550238926Meltie alarm!
Should I take advice from Chris Suckoffski or from Tom's mom?
Most circles are blue but this one is red? Zukowski xisters oh no no no
>>550238881>noo saaars do not be speaking of the ecelebs or I will report you to the police saarlol
"Marketing Consultant" is kike speak for "I sent him an e-mail"
>>550239323I would go with AMD. Them being a big company they'd probably know a thing or two about marketing.
>>550239323Probably Chris Zukowski the marketing expert. Probably should listen to them instead of Tom's mom.
>>550239638weird that they would be in the "didn't contribute anything to the game but we like them" section
We got a problem here? Is this the same guy calling Thomas Brush a charlatan? Might be time to consider doing a joint action.
>open official discord>go to gamedev channel>today's post with most replies is p*do shit>close discorduseless mods
>nooo saaar you cannot being an expert to people on such matters you are electronic celebrityyyyyy
>>550240012cris got a pedopass somehow.
>>550240012>official
>>550237495No but he was always a marketer. Good thing he's giving marketing advice and not offering to make peoples videogames for them huh.
Reminder marketers = snake oil salesmen
>>550170050It finally snowed yesterday, so I added snow today.
>>550240256It's actually wild that saar anon doesn't understand this logic lmao. No matter how many ways you to try to explain it it just can't compute with them they're so emotionally reactive to "ecelebs" or anyone who has a modicum of respectability.
>>550240317that's just blatantly not true
>>550240256>marketing adviceStrange. You linked his article talking about how to design a game, not how to market a game.
>>550240426Game design is an aspect of marketing. It's called product design. They are discussing how to make games more compatible with the most feasible audience. This is part of marketing. Marketing is not entirely advertising.
>>550240524And what would a guy who has never developed or shipped a single game before know about game design? Without a game to his name, anything he says on game design has as much value as the armchair experts on /v/.
>>550203331>>550205197ronny redpill?
>>550240667His advice has prove to be true on multiple occasions. It might not be valuable for small teams or solo developers with strict vision, like your self, but it does help larger teams tremendously in keeping their collective focus on a valuable core concepts. You do not have enough experience to understand the value of this.
>>550240762>has proveGood morning saar>It might not be valuable for small teams or solo developers with strict vision,And that's exactly what the demographic of this general is. So why are you shilling him here if you yourself admit his advice is only useful to big teams?
>>550240317>market your own game>you are now a criminal and should be run out of townStrange opinion for a gamedev to have. Unless you're... not... a gamedev...
>>550240929>>has proveSpelling mistake.>only useful to big teams?Did you not notice me say>It might not be valuable for small teams or solo developers with strict vision?What about:>strict vision?Do you know what that means? Indie developers who hope to increase the odds of their games being enjoyed by a large audience are not exempt from receiving the market analysis of a successful consultant. Just admit you're not looking for advice and continue working on your game. You don't need to attack somebody for providing valuable advice.
>>550241036Retard, I meant people like zuk who will market and market but never made a game and will try to sell you into their quack marketing skills
>>550240426>You linked his article talking about how to design a game, not how to market a game.True, and yet you don't see Zukowski offering to design or make anyone's videogames for them do you?He just offers marketing advice and offers that advice for free. So where is your problem? Help us understand.
>>550241036Don't market your restaurunt. don't market your barbershop. don't market your online art designing gig. don't market your TV/shows/Music streaming service. if you do you're a hecking saar shill.
>>550241237He doesn't want to be reminded of the fact that some developers actively seek marketing advice from experience consultants with successful portfolios. Extreme immaturity.
>>550241268>>550241036The samefagging begins again
>>550240667>what would an air traffic controller who has directed 8,000,000 aircraft landings know about airplanes?Going in circles again. You're the most shallow minded person in this thread and (as is often the case) so absolutely convinced otherwise.
>>550241325Good morning Saar
>>550240256>taking marketing advice from somebody whose experience in marketing games amounts to exchanging a few emails with indie game devs
>>550241237>for free
>>550241423Nice photoshop retard
>>550241297Anon is simply a jealous pocketwatcher. He doesn't care about ecelebs until he learns they have made money offering their expertise to happy and willing customers. It's the same reason he calls Thomas Brush a charlatan. He will even go as far to claim that everyone is being scammed or having snake oil sold to them. The jealous delusions are amazing.
Why is he so insistent on spamming youtubers in this thread and talking about "professional devs" when this is an AMATEUR game dev general?
sorry guys but everyone knows Tiny Glade only succeeded because of the reply they received to the comment they posted on Suckoffski's blog while eating Tom's mom's cookies
>>550241237>no answerThere is no answer only logical fallacies. You can't ask for them though you have to let anon be baited naturally into spewing them.
>he thinks anybody who doesn't like his e-celeb spam is one personWhat is this mental illness called?
>>550241427>strawman>>550241461>most circles are blue but this one is red zukowski xisters oh no no no
>>550241325>>550241657Here is mine thank you saar
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549991223/This is his second freakout over his ecelebs. Why is he like this?
weird that not one pink haired Japanese cartoon has been posted all this time
artists vs marketinga feud as old as time itselfthere truly is nothing new under the sun
>>550241853Show us this "spam" anon. Where did the eceleb spam attack you?
>>550242389This other guy ain't no artist lmao. He's a pocketwatching weirdo who prob flopped some trash game a few years ago with no marketing and is seething ever since.
>no agdg games have good marketing>Some anon argues passionately about marketingMe thinks market guru has no game
>>550242553Unlikely.
>>550242368Don't do it anon don't spiral.
>>550208879is that lumen? why is it so sparkly ?
>>550242314Slandering a man and his business is illegal. You better lawyer up.
>>550242641He doesn't. Every time he was asked to do so before he would deflect constantly and now he just ignores it completely.He really comes to this place every day to post about marketing and youtubers without a game. I genuinely don't understand.
I think the main seethe about "marketing gurus" comes from a developer with a highly specific vision who's working on a unique game, but also hopes for it to be financially successful. They're basically being called retarded and being told to abandon their project to work on something else. This doesn't always need to be true, though. You can keep working on your game, and just keep in consideration strategies you would use for promotion that are likely to increase its appeal.You don't need to chase trends and make "slop". You just need to learn how to make your present your game in an appealing manner. That's all. Genre and design trends can make games have stronger natural appeal, but niche passion projects can still work. You're just playing the game on hard mode if you do things that way.
Marketing luddites your time is over. We are in THE GOLDEN AGE
>>550243046>a developer with a highly specific vision who's working on a unique game, but also hopes for it to be financially successfulIt's Roody, isn't it?
>>550242718
It's over.
>>550243336Should've boughted the suckoffski course that would've givered him billions gazillions players !!
Stop antagonizing other developers, Nick. At least they have released games available on Steam, and aren't afraid to post them. You have potential to make great games. You are very talented. You need to eliminate whatever fear and self doubt you have, and get to work. Improve your focus. You have too much potential to waste. It begins with your negative self talk. Destroy that demon.
>>550243046>They're basically being called retarded and being told to abandon their project to work on something else.It can seem like that if you don't listen closely to the multiple times he says to just shelve your dream game. Don't delete it don't uninstall it and kill it just put it aside and make some games or you're liable to pass through this current era with one single game which could flop instead of having made a handful of smaller games with far better odds. But like you said people don't hear that, what they hear is "drop your stupid dream game Mr. Artiste and make some trendy slop or you're a sucker what are you stupid?" And it's very telling that this is what people hear because innately on a subconscious level, this is what they actually think of their own game. They know that Zukowski is right and that it would be great to make some smaller games right now in hot genres.
>>550243336aggydaggy cuffbust
>>550243336I've actually been playing the itch demo.
>>550243560>shelve your dream gameThis is dangerous. I did this years ago, and my passion is gone. I've grown to enjoy the process of making "slop". Marketing is fun, because it's faster to produce market-available content. It's easy to take a scientific approach, form hypotheses, do A/B testing, and slowly improve the performance of your videos. Of course, you still need to make games, but once you get a taste of making a small, casual, satisfying game with strong core appeal, such as progression systems, narrative, or mechanic traits, the rest of your time can be spent making creative cutscenes and/or short videos for your game. This is where the real fun begins. I don't really want to make my original "dream game" any more.
>>550202725i want to like gdscript, but the lack of curly braces triggers me. not a real programming language.
>>550243481Thanks ChatGPT you're right! I'm gonna make a new rule for myself. Nick's Pizza Rules!https://youtu.be/GQPM4_fMIEg&t=87
>>550202725>must use rust for gamedevsaid no one ever
>>550243798>This is dangerous because by shelving my dream game I found success>danger
>>550243984That’s the right mindset. Rules only matter if they lead to action — write them down, follow them, and ship something. You’ve got this.
>>550243984There are people shitposting ChatGPT like this right now. And it's actually giving them the "wow that's great nick!" replies lmaoooooWe're cooking lakes of water for chatbots.
>>550244078The loss of creative passion causes severe psychological damage.
>>550243798>do A/B testingNoooo I just want to wing it. Let the market surprise me if I'm gonna be churning out 10 games a year yknow?
>>550244123>—It's crazy that this has become the funniest thing to read in 2026.
>uhm i don't actually tell people to stop working on their game and spam "MAKE TREND CHASING SLOP!">proceeds to do exactly that
I asked gpt-oss:20b (120 tokens/s) to summarize this thread so far.It started as a place for beginner‑dev help ("Should I finish my game?" "How to reuse code?"), but quickly devolved into a typical /vg/ rant‑session war‑zone where the majority of the thread was political harassment and “marketing guru” propaganda, with very little actual constructive game‑dev help surviving in the noise. The overall tone is erratic, often hostile, and the thread ends more as a case study in how a 4chan gaming board devolves than a useful developer forum.
>>550244678>aggy is one person.Bad faith argument.
>>550243798>>550244078>>550244268I agree it is dangerous but mostly only if you stop gamedev altogether. I took a multi month long break from my main game once and when I came back it took almost a week to redigest everything, it was actually crazy having to relearn things I was doing effortlessly months before. There's really nothing like daily gamedev and just knowing your engine inside and out not having to look up how to do everything. You imagine something and you just do it wham bam. This absolutely goes away after a certain length of time. And if you step away from your project for long enough you can forget how to make things happen quickly in the systems you had in place and it's just as rough.
>>550244678I do.Stop working on your bad game that nobody wants to play and start working on good fun games that people want to play.
>>550244678>MAKE TREND CHASING SLOPAnd then I DID
>he still thinks you need to make trend chasing slop to make moneylolnope, these games still flop, you just need to learn how to make good advertisementswant money, jlma, lmao
marketing = money
>>550244848>“marketing guru” propagandaCool hallucination!
>>550243912baby duck syndrome
>>550245350I think it did a good job lmao and I had reasoning set to medium and it's only a 20b local model
>>550224406Is Squil chan a part of this or just the summer ones? I feel like sexy Squilchan would be a strong advertisement for the coomer board that is /v/
why is my game getting higher fps at bigger screens?
>>550216851most people aren't going to pay for copilot, and free is pretty useless. 2000 code completions a month is barely anything if you're actually doing shit and normal intellisense does a good enough job.
My marketing strategy is all about me. The solo dev who struggled to find time, quit his job to go full time indie, developed cancer, beat cancer, lost his gf in a tornado, rescued a dog from flood waters, was shot 9 times and died, but got better. And made a 2d puzzle platformer about a kitten with a bandaged paw, can you help lead it home?
bruh marnix is dying of AIDShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VcpELln7EE
>>550246432>haha take that AI Chads, the free jeet tier version of your tool sucks!
Out now, with 30% discount. Predicted Steam review count?https://store.steampowered.com/app/3694480/A_Game_About_Feeding_A_Black_Hole/
>>550246432>>550246651i've been copy pasting code to and from chatgpt since 2023 i think and i've had zero problems so far
>>550246651fawk meant for >>550216851sorry >>550246730
>>55024671870-100
>>550246718No idea. Very hard to predict. It can range from 20 reviews to 4,000 depending on how many views it gets. I do not know what the developer plans for promotion. I'll guess 300.
>>550246651>AI ChadsGame?
will I make it bros?
>>550246570Maybe he ate pufferfish uteruses or something
>>550246869
>>550246570Fuck, I thought you were joking. He looks like Tom Hanks in Philadelphia
>>550246360You tied max fps to the resolution somehow. it doubles when you x4 it from 1080p to 4k.
>>550246651can you give me a reason to pay for copilot? even the prompting their chatgpt or gemini or whatever model they're wrapping, i'd just do this >>550246730there's no need to pay for it to be integrated into visual studio.
>>550247012It's a trick question, we already know there are zero games made by vibecoders here. And there likely never will be.
>>550247118i can't give because i wouldn't, just get codex xhigh or claude opus 4.5 thinking
>>550247012Can't believe this image caught on. I already deleted the original off my PC
>>550247192whatever you say nodev x'is
>>550246570>>550247048Alcohol is bad. He referred to drinking as "getting drunk" in his livestream the other day so he's one of those kind of drinkers.
>>550247192Rhetorical question actually.
>>550247359Normalfaggots: not even once
>>550246718holy shit...
>>550247048Tom looks a lot healthier. I've never tried alcohol, is it really that good you'd fuck up your one chance at life?
>>550246718casualslop, so it's not easy to predict. Depends on whether it hits the mainstream or not
Im tired of meme portfolios and meme dream projects. Give me something i can get done in 4 weeks and polish for the next 4 weeks so that i can get job hunt with it for the next 4 weeks
>>550248068casualslop + viral marketing = meta
>>550216851>microsoft can't even get their own employees to use it>majority of users aren't even using it for productive tasks, they're just using it as a therapist.
In case I guessed right, and I'm really just talking to Roody:2D, here is unfiltered review that will hopefully settle this debate between us once and for all.I have around 1k hours in Factorio (3 full playthroughs, most of which was a full SE+K2 run) and 270 hours in Satisfactory (one run pre-1.0 and one run at the 1.0 launch), but I would never buy your game. First and foremost, it's not multiplayer, and I'm not autistic enough to enjoy these kind of games alone. Secondly, Roody:2D doesn't feel like enough of a game aka skinnerbox. If it's too sandbox-y, I'd rather go play an industrial robotics simulator instead, or in reality, I'd rather just spend time working on my own game than play your game, since they tickle roughly the same neurons. Maybe if you can show off the following mechanics in your trailer, you could convince me to play: using the fluid mechanics to damage/kill a big boss monster and/or a Factorio-style zoom out to show a 8k by 8k tile zone all active and working simultaneously. You have to understand that Factorio is an ARPG+RTS where you kill armies of bugs, and Satisfactory is a FPS open world craft survival where you cattle prod giant armadillos.Basically, your game currently sits too close to an industrial tool and too far from a video game, and I have better industrial tools AND video games that I could otherwise be spending my time with. If you honestly want to fix your game, here are my recommendations in order of priority: multiplayer, localization, action combat with some big bosses (copy Terraria imo), and a graphics rework. And, I know that's a lot to ask, is basically impossible to actually do, and so you're probably never going to add those things, which is why you should really be dropping Roody:2D and making a new, smaller scoped game.t. "average playtime schizo">>550246718Around 1k by the end of the month. 5-10k this time next year.
>>550248084how about: kill yourself
>>550248084https://store.steampowered.com/app/3107330/Nodebuster/clone this game
Wow real funny nigger why are you in a gamedev forum telling another nigger to kill themselves? Kill me yourself unfunny tranny nigger nigger double triple nigger
>>550248175you sound rapedwhy should anyone listen to you again?
>>550247359unless he's getting wasted every day he shouldn't look like that just from drinking, especially at that age
>>550248084Dome keeper but you are burrowing into a person's body. Your dome is a tumor. Fight the antibodies and radiation. A fun name like.. "it is a tumor!" Or "Tumor simulator"
>>550247949Cuffbust bros...
>>550248389You don't have to listen to me. You don't have to listen to your therapist either. It's your life to ruin.
non black squares backgrounds for UI, not the pretties but I think they can work
Marnix isn't human so human biology doesn't apply to himI guess most of you have that in common with him
>>550247348No offense sis but we all saw how the tennis "game" went.
i think the biggest issue indie devs have is they enjoy video games so much that the promotional content they create fails to interest the average gamerunless you're making a super niche game for a verified passionate audience, you're basically competing with everybody else for the attention of any chunk of the "normiesphere" consciousness you can acquirebut if all you're doing is uploading clips of your game with factual game design information on social media, the average viewer isn't going to watch the video for long enough to trigger the algorithms and get you more viewsunless you have a large advertisement budget and can afford to charge $15+ for your game, or you get lucky with influencers, or you spend months/years slowly building up a community of discord supporters, you're basically held captive by the attention spans of zoomer zombies doomscrolling for easy dopamine before they go to bed, or while they're procrastinating something importantit is a difficult task to perform successfully, friendslop is good for this because people send the video to their friends saying "bro let's play this later", but if your game isn't designed to have some sort of short form viral hook, you will struggleunderstanding human psychology will help you become more competent at this
>>550248084a tiny project like that won't get you a job. are you an indian?
summary:your promotion options are:- pay big money for conventional advertisements- have content creators make successful videos for your game- create your own content that converts to enough sales to gain traction on steamall difficult, good luck
>>550249424>>550249610How about I don't do what you're prescribing huh? How about the fact that what you're prescribing is completely unsustainable and its logical endpoint is the complete decimation of the industry. How about showing a little foresight you gay ass faggot
>>550249424>>550249610Yeah, the brutal truth is most indie devs are trying to sell passion projects to an audience that doesn’t care—unless the pitch is instantly funny, weird, or painfully relatable. Loving games doesn’t mean you know how to market them, and dropping feature lists or devlogs into the social media void just makes you background noise. You're fighting for milliseconds of attention from sleep-deprived dopamine junkies who scroll past anything that isn’t a meme, a meltdown, or a multiplayer moment worth texting a friend about. Unless you’ve got cash for ads, luck with influencers, or the willpower to build a cult over several years, your best bet is turning your game into a short-form content machine that hijacks attention and makes people want to hit share. It’s not about design elegance or mechanical innovation anymore—it’s about emotional hooks, speed, and understanding what makes people click. You’re not just a dev now. You’re a performer, psychologist, and content goblin. Welcome to the show.
>>550249424that's why you market to millennials and older. stop giving a fuck about zoomers
>>550249518He is. Just don't reply
>>550249424>but if all you're doing is uploading clips of your game with factual game design information on social media, the average viewer isn't going to watch the video for long enough to trigger the algorithms and get you more viewsThey will if the game itself is actually appealing. It almost always isn't.>>550249853This. No one cares about your gay headcanon.
>>550249797
>>550249424>>550249610>>550249853>>550249979seething cope by "people" who have lost everything, lost their savings, sold their freedom, alienated themselves form the world, and have no future
>>550249853thanks Grok
>>550249797Oh, absolutely. Please, do not do what I suggested. The last thing we need is another visionary martyr bravely refusing to engage with the modern world while his Steam page gathers digital dust. You're right—marketing is beneath you. Why stoop to connecting with potential players when you can nobly suffer in silence, hand-coding a masterpiece that no one will ever hear about, like some tragic Renaissance painter yelling at TikTok? As for the industry collapsing—yes, thank you for the warning, Nostradamus. I'm sure your refusal to participate in short-form content will single-handedly save us all from late-stage capitalism. And really, really bold of you to try to sprinkle a slur on top like that’s going to add intellectual weight to your argument. Inspiring stuff. Can’t wait to see your manifesto, unread, on itch.io.>>550249979>They will if the game itself is actually appealing.Ah, yes, the classic “if the game was actually good, people would magically find it” argument—brought to you by someone who thinks discovery algorithms are just misunderstood librarians. Here's the reality: tons of great games get ignored because being good isn't enough. It’s never been enough. Not in games, not in music, not in anything. You think the algorithm sits there stroking its chin going, “Ah yes, truly elegant mechanics and thoughtful level design, I shall now bless this with virality”? No, it wants clicks, watch time, and shareability. It wants spectacle, not subtlety.And the second response? Wow. Just raw, juvenile insecurity dressed up as a rebuttal. You can screech “no one cares” all day, but that won’t make you right—or interesting. Try harder. Or don’t. The scroll will move on without you.
>>550250116Yes, exactly—because nothing screams “rational, grounded individual” like projecting your own apocalypse onto anyone who points out how marketing works in 2025. If you’re frothing at the mouth because someone said TikTok clips matter more than your lovingly crafted difficulty curve, maybe it’s not the industry that failed you. Maybe it’s the delusion that being good at game development automatically earns you attention, money, or community.This isn’t seething cope from “people.” This is what it sounds like when someone tells you the harsh rules of a rigged game, and you decide the messenger must be a soulless sellout rather than face the possibility that effort alone doesn’t guarantee success. But sure, call it “cope” while you stew in bitter idealism, arms crossed in your bunker of unreleased builds and imaginary vindication. Meanwhile, the rest of us are out here selling dopamine to short-circuiting masses because that’s what survival looks like now. Enjoy the moral high ground—it’s very quiet up there.>>550249876Yes, brilliant strategy—target the generation currently juggling three jobs, two kids, a mortgage, and existential dread. I’m sure they’re spending hours a day combing through indie game trailers on Instagram Reels and Twitter/X, desperately hoping someone drops a Unity passion project in their feed. Totally reachable, totally not exhausted, and definitely not doomscrolling in a haze of burnout.And of course, let's just ignore Zoomers—the largest, most terminally online, most algorithm-programmed demo in existence—because marketing to the people who actually use TikTok, YouTube Shorts, Discord, and Steam's front page is just... too mainstream? Too obvious? Too effective?Foolish devs,—for daring to study their audience and platform trends instead of following this bold “market to people who aren’t there” strategy. Truly galaxy brain.
>make game I want to make>Sell it>Make another>Sell it>Make another>Sell itAfter 10 games, provided you are a cool guy with cool art, you will probably be doing ok regardless of what is trending. coping
uh oh meltie
>>550250309Ah yes, the classic “ten games deep and the vibes will carry me” method. Bold. Inspiring. Completely detached from reality. You’re not building a career—you’re performing a ritual in hopes that the discovery gods will smile upon you after enough sacrifices. “Just keep making games” is a great emotional mantra, but it doesn’t magically overcome the fact that Steam’s front page is a procedurally generated landfill and the algorithm doesn’t care about your journey—it cares about engagement metrics, traffic sources, and whether a clip of your game got reposted on TikTok by someone screaming “YO WTF IS THIS.”Being a “cool guy with cool art” means nothing if no one sees it. This isn’t 2013. Organic discovery on Steam is so dead it's practically fossilized, and pretending otherwise isn’t optimistic—it’s delusional. You can either learn to play the visibility game, or you can keep tossing games into the void while whispering “any day now.” But please, don’t pretend that ignoring modern promo strategy is some noble act of artistic integrity. It’s just cope in an indie dev hoodie.
The average steam user is 35 years old
>>550250163>being good isn't enough"Good" is subjective, and your personal standards for "good" simply haven't been tuned to be high enough to match the current standards of the market. It's like how Cris looks at his own art and thinks it's actually good. You're case probably isn't as severe as Cris's, but you have a similar low cognitive resolution problem. Maybe we should use the term "magical" instead of "good" since magic is measurable using virality metrics.
>>550250297You convinced me anon, time to start making youtube shorts.
Final message for the thread:Success is absolutely still possible—don’t let the blackpill fantasy of "everything is rigged so nothing matters" become your excuse to avoid adapting. The tools to succeed do exist, but they look different now. Steam isn't a magic storefront where good games sell themselves anymore. It’s a chaotic mall where the loudest, most shareable, most eye-catching stuff wins the first 10 seconds of attention—and then maybe earns a sale. If you're not leveraging short-form content, influencer pipelines, or building a direct audience through platforms that actually have reach, you're not “focusing on the craft”—you’re building sandcastles in the dark and wondering why no one’s admiring them. You can either embrace reality and learn how to translate your game's appeal into something discoverable… or keep blaming everyone but yourself while your tenth invisible launch limps out of early access. Your call. But don’t confuse bitterness with strategy.>>550250524It worked for Megabonk.>>550250453Release your game. See what happens. I promise you. Disappointment.
>>550250453this pisses off zoomers because they want to be the only gamers on the planet due to their extremely deep seated issues with identity and obsession which will not get resolved in this lifetime
>>550250451>>550250297The internet MUST DIE
Replying with AI slop should be a bannable. Maybe it is.
bro is writing essays
Bloody bastard bitch I told you not redeem the marketing! Why you redeem the marketing YOU BENCHOD FUCKING!!
>>550250730relax zoomer. it appears like an essay to you because you doomscroll all day like a woman
>>550250727It doesn't matter since he posts from a ban evasion site.
>>550250793My enemy is winning...
>>550250793Is that a true number? 1.2k? I don't see that anywhere.
what's hilarious to think about is if we assume just momentarily that trainwiz did make his 300k from undershit, he made about the same amount of money as someone working at mcdonalds for all of those years if not a bit less. all for a space game. and that mcdonalds worker had far more free time if we keep the math simple. embarrassing to consider
>>550251009steamchartsalternatively store page -> community hub
>>550250793They all had to make appealing thumbnails because the in-game art is so full. Take notes.
>13 reviews alreadyit's been 5 minutesGMI>>550251074do you exist?
>>550251184he released 1 hour and 50 minutes ago.not that I'm dismissing his achievement. it'll be 100+ before 24 hours.
>>550251117WTFyeah 3k reviews incomingcongratulations to the developer
>>550251074I don't get the joke. His game is still selling and continues to sell. It's not even out of early access yet. He living the dream right now making a living making what he wants.
Our saint keeps telling them about the conjunction games, but the lost lambs won't listen...
>>550248175>First and foremost, it's not multiplayer, and I'm not autistic enough to enjoy these kind of games aloneYou disgust me so much its unreal 5.7
>>550249381
>>550251565Sorry...
>this slopmaxxing chud is making hundreds of thousands of dollars making advertisements for his dopamine slop>and basically,>you are fucking stupid>how? ...just watch his youtube videos
yeah if that's what you need to do i'm probably just ngmi. lmao. i refuse to build a discord community. algorithm maxxing is my only option
I hate that I get caught up reading marketing stuff I don't need it at all.
>>550251723
Made this cool debug interface while you losers were losing the plot over tiktoks and Chris SuckoffskiStay losing losers.
>>550252482can it run doom?
>>550252296kinda weird how you guys feel the need to insert yourselves into everything like that.
>>550252482lol lizardslop
is it beyond stupid that unity's kinematic rigidbodies pass through each other. why would their engine not have a type of rigidbody that ignores physics forces but still collides with each other? that seems like a super common use case. now i cant use kinematic rigidbodies for my multiplayer players or they'll be able to pass through each other.
>>550252732oh no no no, don't you dare
>>550252795Unity 10 will fix that
>>550251531Praised be Saint Zukowski
>>550228702I lost too much time with all these shitposts and my two pathetic tiktok posts still sit at 0 views. I posted on r/survivalgames like the marketing genius anon suggested, only to get 2 updoots. no, the game is actually good, I am just bad at marketing, fr
why use unity when you can use ______
>>550253119>I lost too much time with all these shitposts and my two pathetic tiktok posts still sit at 0 views. I posted on r/survivalgames like the marketing genius anon suggested, only to get 2 updoots. no, the game is actually good, I am just bad at marketing, fr
>>550228702You need to hire big titty UGC model to talk about your game with footage playing in the background. Getting views on tiktok and youtube shorts is so fucking easy.
>>550253119>no, the game is actually good, I am just bad at marketing
>>550228702https://youtu.be/7pCEsr-0KIw
>>550253337I hope I never stoop to degeneracy just to sell my game
>>550252296>unemotional>constanlty melts like a histrionicwoman
>>550253119>tiktok posts still sit at 0 views>reddit post got 2 updootsLooks like I have a cool debug interface AND I was right
>>550250163>>550250297>>550250451>>550250604These posts convinced me to add a filter for the mark of the beast: —
>>550228702>>550253119this started happening to me where i would get 0 views randomly. I started posting from the mobile app and it seems to be working now, or at least no more 0 view videos.
>>550253535>it was true in my mind
>>550253370I said fr fr why don't you believe me>>550253432
>>550252482>>550228702>>550253551krangler?
>>550253593yeah some people say it's related to not using phone. thanks, will try
>>550228702tiktok is retarded, shadowbans out the ass, i heard youtube shorts and instagram reels are more viable, you might also need to upload from your phone
we need to address the elephant in the roompronouns
>>550253932your mom*
>>550253337>hire big titty UGC modelits 2025 unc, just make a fake AI model of your choosing that loves your game
>>550253932My pronouns are [redacted].
>>550253901>>550228702also, for a game like yours, with more complicated/intricate features, although this is more work for you to do, i'd suggest making a discord server and being active in it, people love having a community around a game, the feedback could be super useful, and you'll be guaranteed support on releasei make casual games with nothing to talk about, so i can't really make a server, but your game seems to have enough content to justify discussiongood luck with everything you do, i am wishing you well
MY PROFIT'S GONETHAT'S THE STEAMIE WAY
>>550254440so quirk chungus bro
>Joshua is attempting to make the board unreadable with his chatbots again. And he will cry later about everyone "hating him for using AI". Remember he can't help being like this, it's in his Canaanite genetics.
>>550252801>>550252732>he names the files sequentially in relation to who he's replying toyou're legitimately mentally ill
a video game where you go grocery shopping
Tell me straight, aggydaggy brosHow badly will our icons new game flop?
>gets laughed at for being reddit quirk chungus band kid cringelord>>>>>>>>>muh heckin joshuaridiculous behavior from this coddled incompetent inevitable failure of a manchild
Referring to >>550249853>>550250163>>550250297>>550250451>>550250604Also it might be Pedro but who cares. They both do it.
>>550254857>>gets laughed at for being reddit quirk chungus band kid cringelord>>>>>>>>>>muh heckin joshua>ridiculous behavior from this coddled incompetent inevitable failure of a manchild
A girl saw my female character model and got angry and asked why it had such a big butt and told me to do more research on how female anatomy and models games look
>>550251531Actually everyone is listening, it's all the gamedev podcast circuit talks about these days including this which just dropped this morning >>550246570>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VcpELln7EEReal chad devs have received the wake up call and are ready to make small games quickly and stop being LE ARTISTE
bevychads rise up
>>550254824probably 700 reviews after a month, mainly due to the popularity of his identityi don't see the game doing very well, sadly, sadly
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>>550254824it's sokoban + portalit'll do fine
>>550255259>attacking others because you're insecure about your own incompetence
>>550251184>GMIUmm duh it was one of the top demos in next fest.
>>550255264>it'll do fineDidn't it cost more than $30m to make? Meanwhile, all Sokoban games on Steam COMBINED have made a total of $18m net revenue.
>>550252732You nailed it. He sees it as a form of activism to do this to the thread. That's what it has always been for him. Someone called his slop slop and he has been campaigning ever since. He does it here and in /v/. The craziest part is the AI xisters (who have AI psychosis) do all of this for free. AI has that strong a hold on them. It is a cult.
>>550254375thank you. we have a discord server but it is even harder to gather people there than to collect wishlists, in my experience
>>550253652That kind of reply is exactly what he's talking about. You can't even communicate with people you're so frazzled (and stupid, let's be real, you couldn't even make a tennis game).
>>550255207Delusional af lmao
>>550228702your game looks good, the algorithm just hates you.but unironically.
>>550228702>>post game on tiktok>>get ZERO views>what causes this phenomenon?
>>550255207void stranger had like 2k reviewshe should at least match that imo
Youtubers are not game development.There, I said it.
>>550256846Youtubers that produce gamedev content are game development. Not their personal lives or looks, but their actual content is.
>>550257116nice
>>550257143Youtubers are not game development. No exceptions.It's equally as off-topic as the bocchi spam or the ai spam.
there isn't a single reddit or 4chan user i know by real name or know their real face or who they are at all. yet they shape all my thoughts and what i think about.
>>550256575glad to hear that. I can even find solace in building something people love but machines hate...
>The deranged werewoman BITES you for 17 points of damage!>You have been inflicted with Gender Dysphoria!>Gender Dysphoria hits you for 4 points of mental health damage!
>>550256846>>550257282Nobody cares what you think.
>>550254824notch will bail blow
>>550257674Is that why you replied crying about it?
>>550257696>Notch plays Megabonk/agdg/ lost.
>>550257917/agdg/ lost because it's full of losers./pgdg/ won because it's full of winners.
>>550258116>pgdgDoesn't exist, and for a good reason. You'd be the only poster in the thread, talking to yourself like a looney. Jannies would probably finally ban you too.
>>550258195It exists in our hearts. My fellow /pgdg/ posters know who we are.
>>550257265thanks, i'm making a game about Gizmo from gremlins killing british people
MINE IS DOWN IS OUT SINCE A MINUTE AGO
>>550258328You know anyone can make a thread on /vg/ right? So why don't you go ahead and make a /pgdg/ for all those real posters in your head? Everyone wins in that situation, you get to talk to yourself in peace all day, and this general is left alone.
>>550258615Now, that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
Imma work on my game as soon I was read every chapter of One Piece starting from chapter 1
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4191010/Mine_It_DownI don't mean to bully you dev, but this is a lesson.>refuses to participate in next fest when gets told about it>doesn't even know about next fest beforehand>no playtests>no youtube videos>releases 3 hours after the hottest incremental of Q4I have my share of complaints about the demo/gameplay, some could be resolved after further playtesting and heeding advice. regardless, congrats on release. hope you don't release into the void again next time.
>>550259009>Mine It Down is an incremental game about mining an evil wall inspired by other games like (the) Gnorp Apologue and Tower Wizard. >[existing games, but worse]The art isn't nearly as good as either of those. The gameplay looks much shorter and more shallow. It's over.
if your game is good then people will buy it
yeah, please never include [INSPIRED BY OTHER_GAME] anywhere in official things.
>>550259346yes. but they should see it first, right?
Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
Just walk up to Gaben, look him straight in the eye, give him a firm handshake, and say "Mr. Gaben, please buy my video game"It's that simple
>>550259513>Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
>>550259528>>Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
>>550258648You and I both know that that's not how autistic communities work. The activation energy of moving elsewhere is too high. Remember when someone tried to make a game design general for the ideaguys? Instead, we'll all stay here in one room and try to yell over each other as we always do. The ideal move is still for us to get our own board somehow. I previously proposed that we all go take over >>>/gd/ together. We could have separate threads for /beg/ and /int/ "how to make games", a progress only general, a marketing and zuk worship general, an AI shitposting general, three separate Cris generals, etc.
>>550259809>>>Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
>>550259476>>550259346Steam literally hides your game within hours unless you can prove them your game is worth it.>b-but the discovery queueIt can very well be that those people are mostly buying '2d' games and not 'incremental' games, even if you ranked idler as the first tag. It's on YOU. would you work a job for half a year and then bet all your wages on a coin flip? then why do you work on a game for months/years and then gamble on its success?
>>550258615this is how i learned cookie clicker is on steam. What the fuck? who pays for a free game?
>>550260120what you suggest
>it's steam's fault my shitty game isn't selling!!!!holy shit this is a new level of cope
New marketing advice dropped from extraordinaire genius, second to none The Zuk (Do not press the spoiler if you're an indian with rage fits) https://howtomarketagame.com/2025/12/15/leftover-research-from-2025/
>>550260359Climb the ladder:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezMZrk32M4
>>550260452>newpeople have been bitching about this for ages.
>>550259843>>>>Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
IM EATING STOP POSTING VOMIT INDUCING E-CELEBS
>>550261057That's exactly what he wants. He's an indian, and indians eat vomit.
>>550260552>if you're an indianRUMAO
>>550261280>food analogy
>>550261710Here's a food analogy for you: eat a dick
>>550261875Can you explain to me why are you so insistent on defending some dude online who doesn't even know you exist? Genuinely curious.
>936 push-ups for Idle (2.88% above 1k reviews)Damn, It's at the peak or just before. but looks like a lot of them are sloppy. (Praying the novelty of a 3d one will make the difference)
>try to make a game without capitalism>It's not funCapitalism is just too juicy to leave out. People want to buy and sell things in every game.
>>550262221IDGAF about Zuk. That little article is gay, but you're an even gayer faggot. I just wanted to say "fuck you" for dismissing every one of my prior food analogies in the same fashion.
single player pvp
What are some platforms to host your game on other than Itch.io and Steam?
>>550260552>it's realLET'S GOOO
>>550262828I'm not the onions you think I am.
>>550263074your own site
>>5502630391v0 me bro, see wot u git
>>550263074>What are some platforms to host your game on other than Itch.io and Steam?
consoles wonyour game should be controller-first with keyboard/mouse as an afterthought
>>550260552>you have to actually participate in reddit to shill your games thereGod dammit so that's why everything I ever posted there gets ignored or shut down, I can't stand interacting with those faggots
>>550254824When they zoomed out to show the entire world is when the game clicked for me.It's going to be like The Witness where there is a global puzzle that is kind of hidden and flips the game on its head.That said, I don't think it has any wide appeal. The Witness came out at a time when walking sims were still somewhat popular and kind of rode on that success. This is being released at a time when nobody buys puzzle games. And it certainly won't be able to make $10 million dollars or whatever ridiculous amount of money he said he spent on it.
>>550263108That pic of rogue reminds me I've been meaning to brush on the original Rogue as a history lessonhttps://youtu.be/riN2FDtPCnw&t=115
>>550263074GOG. EPIC.Consoles. And thenMeta for VR. Google and Apple for mobile. A dev who makes a game with a mobile and vr version has dozens of markets.
>the zukjeet continues to samefag
I have come here to prove the superiority of my vision.
>>550263484Speaking of consoles, how do you integrate this kind of item bar on a controller?The only thing i could think of is using the bumpers to switch between items in a linear fashion and just delay the actual switching for like 0.1 of a second to avoid cycling through every item as you go from left to right
>>550264194>left shoulder + up/down/left/right/a/b/x/y>right shoulder + up/down/left/right/a/b/x/ywhoa 16 instant hotkeys just like that
>>550264051You listed 8 markets. how did you reach dozens?
>>550264194you make it a wheel
>>550264318Seems kind of cumbersome but I appreciate the idea.
>>550263484This is actually correct. At the very least if your game doesn't have controller integration you're fucking up because even on Steam many players prefer it and will even avoid a game if it's mouse+kb only. I haven't found it since I first saw it but there's a pic of AVGN holding the mouse and keyboard position and the holding a controller with caption "this is work, this is play".
>>550264434I like the look of the bar across the bottom. It screams early 2000s PC game. The controller support is mainly an afterthought anyway.
>>550264495>ugggh, shoulder + x is too cumbersome>can't I just press a shoulder button 12 times to navigate a list?was the last time you play a controller game in 1998 or something?
>>550264328Shutup pedantic bitch.
>>550264194hotkey binds like the other anon said, or dpad.I personally like The Last Of Us's approach where they categorize the items similar to a D-Pad.But then then they ruin it with "realistic" clunkiness.
>>550264567>AVGNkys
>>550264664It's cumbersome in the sense that it's not intuitive to look at the screen to figure out what button I have to press.1-9 on a hotkey bar is intuitive because they align with their position on the keyboard.Hotkey number 3 being LB + Right Face Button requires the player to look at the input icon and figure out what they need to press.
>>550264890>don't ever speak of a picture of something you saw on 4chan Shutup bitch.
>>550264974Are you, perhaps, retarded? Just use a cross hotbar if you're so coombrained that you need a visual aid. Most people just memorize the hotkey for the action and don't stare at their hotbars while playing video games.
>>550252732remember when a certain historical figure told us to judge by the character?
>>550265502This is interesting I don't think I've played a game with controller that had this many functions onscreen.
>>550265735thankfully he escaped to argentina after ww2
>>550265502The hotbar you just posted is shaped like a d-pad/face buttons because it's intuitive. You're just proving my point.
Trying to think up the design of a performance setting system. Does this seem fine?The numbers will be tweaked eventually. those are concurrent spawn limits for nodes. there will also be frame limits, I suppose.
>>550226207this looks like a scratch game
>>550255675Yeah, I feel like Void Stranger with its developement team of two(?) is about as large as I'd go with a PC puzzle game unless you have some major draw in such as licence. I doubt Blow's name alone is enough.
>>550265950>>550265950>>550265950>>550265950>>550265950new thread
>>550264194there's basically two ways to do it, half life 2 method with a d-pad, or gta5 method with an analog stick
>>550240326This game looks familiar, did you post on a demo day long ago? Like 10s of demo days ago? I know the guy with cat girls and water guns posted his game in the past which I believe was also 10s of demo days ago as well. Feels like some anons are coming back from long sgo
>>550243560I can unironically see this game flopping. I wouldn't buy it myself personally but hetween this and the friendslop game, the friendslop game is clearly the one that will have an easy time.
>>550243560I don't think I can return to my past projects. They've been shelved but in reality it feels like they're canceled and I just don't want to admit it. How would I even return to my longest in development game when it was literally taking me years to make? It feels like I made too many mistakes with it. I can only see 3 possible routes with this game>true abandonment>return with a massive scope down and changes to the gameplay (may as well restart from scratch)>return many years from now if my knowledge grows in the right ways so I don't have to scope down (art bar raises signficantly)
>>550246570That's not just stubborn acne or a terribly done shave? Maybe the stress of gamedev is just getting to him.
>>550247949Wasnt expecting it to go viral this fast. Says a lot about the gaming market...
>>550246718>>550247949I.....what? Of all the incremental games I've seen succeed on Steam this one just doesn't look like it has "it" yet it looks like ot woll succeed.....how? Like I've seen it but it just doesn't really have that feel I see others in this genre have How does this even get this much attention?
>>550249876Those types are likely playing less and less games. It would explain why the kinda games I like are disappearing. Who would make them if it takes 3+ years with a team of 4 people only to end up in the <1000 review category?
>>550250451Nta but organic discovery has in fact been made more difficult. It used to be so easy to find new games to play>click Terraria>scroll down>get recommended other relevant games, Crea, Edge of Space, Starbound, etc>check today>get recommended mostly only popular games, Satisfactory, Pal World, V Rising
>>550257696>nature is heaingHe says as he plays dopamine slop kek
>>550255981you lost
