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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8904 - Zoomers edition

==NEWS==
>NiGHTS, Ai Ai, Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>550125234
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6E13xODyA
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Tails!
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Porn franchise.
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Anyone knows what the next season will do in Sonic Rumble? Like, I dunno, balance changes, new skills, or just a new battle pass?
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Calm down capslock porn poster
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>>550266129
I dont play kiddie mobile slop.
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>>550266041
Was a based franchise back in the day
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Cream the Rabbit.
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Douge
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I don't care who G.U.N. sends! I am not paying taxes!
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>>550265959
>Silver and Blaze are paired together even in the exe side
grim
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*takes your OC sledding*
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>>550264937
What? This is just Tails' core characterization. Like how Sonic is "The Wind."
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>>550266329
Not to worry. SEGA hates the exe stuff, so it'll never matter
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>>550265959
Real Previous Zone: >>550199595
This should be #8905:
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>>550266329
They're benched, so it goes. They'll both debut at the same time too in the movie franchise.
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>He did it again.
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Who does Sonic even appeal to anymore?
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>>550266615
me :)
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>>550266329
>>550266472
cope. Exe will be canon soon because this is a game for kids and this is what the kids want. You old boomers are irrelevant now
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>>550266615
Human men, doubly so if they're evil egg-shaped scientists
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>>550266038
IT'S NOT FAIR i want to wash tails while he laughs and talk about what bedtime story i'm gonna read to him this night.

FUCK THIS SHITTY REALITY
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>>550266615
People who are addicted to the rollercoaster of hoping into disappointment. Myself included.
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>>550266615
Definitely not self-hating fans
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>>550266714
Lmao, anyways
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>>550266615
Hypersensitive, progressivist zoomers with victim and entitlement complexes who want LGBT melodrama and slop in Sonic instead of action, adventure, moral conflict, emotional intimacy, and deep lore
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>>550266953
Perfect description
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>>550266787
Wish I could spend a day with Tails.
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>>550266615
Sonic appeals to children.
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you still come here because you're addicted to being upset/depressed
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>>550266615
Me because the soundtracks slap
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>>550267087
I'm here because I'm locked into a perpetual state of "Fuck I hate how shit this franchise is." and "Damn I love these characters." I hate it.
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>>550267195
When it's not shitty EDM or Dubstep, yea
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>>550267087
that's not why I come here at all
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>>550267268
Real
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>DBZ went from people getting their arms ripped off in a cloud of blood and everyone clearly expressing the desire to kill, and in fact killing, one another
>ends up with Diaper where they all turn into todlres and minor dirt scratches is as violent as it gets
>Sonic went from nature advocacy and moral dilemmas to crying lesbians and whatever sonic&friends is
These two franchises are really basically twins
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Why is Sonic Social Media hyping up Sonic haters and nobody streamers for this big event?
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>>550267775
More like older brother/younger brother than twins.
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>>550267826
They're trying to get literally anyone to play that sub-1000 player count game.
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>>550267826
Thats what you get when you put a woman in charge of things
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>>550267826
>THREE FEMALES
>TWO NEGROES
>ALL HOMOSEXUALS
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>>550267907
More like successful celebrity and deranged stalker.
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>>550267826
I don't know a single one of these and that makes me feel good
Though the actual answer is that it's almost impossible to find a streamer that isn't a Nintendo/Mario Kart dick rider so these are the best they can do
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>>550267775
this nigga did not watch an ounce of dragonball
A true fan, you have my respect
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>>550267826
I have no idea who any of these people are and their influence means nothing to me. I will still not buy this heap of shit.
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>>550267775
Time shall rot everything.
Marvel, disney, star wars, all of the "remake" culture we have, they are just feasting on the cultural output america used to pump out but now can't anymore.
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>>550267972
Don't slander her like that, is a very nice girl

>>550268076
I did actually, even in Japanese. Nappa killing everyone still sticks in my mind harder than Goku going through Daimao
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>>550268008
>it's almost impossible to find a streamer that isn't a Nintendo/Mario Kart dick rider
How do people square that circle with the narrative that MKW is bad and everyone hates it?
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what is the thought process behind identifying as a fan of a franchise but gleefully and enthusiastically taking every opportunity to shit on it and pray for its downfall? it doesn't even seem like "having standards/expectations", it just sometimes seems like genuine hate
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>>550267826
I have no idea who the fuck are these niggerfaggots, but like the rest of all e-celebs they belong in a german gas chamber.
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>>550267775
Dragon Ball is a 41 year old franchise anon. It's been through a lot of cultural and ratings shifts through that time. The OG series had Goku and Bulma stark ass naked multiple times because it was seen as appropriate for children at the time.
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fluffy
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>>550268338
entitlement, it's the thought process of
>this thing should be EXACTLY what I WANT and if it's not then it deserves to fail because it should meet MY expectations and be for ME
basically
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>>550268358
Gone are the days where you could tilt up the camera to see Amy's pure white panties of innocence. Now you find a void or the black shorts of male hatred.
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>>550268317
Because it isn't a significant narrative, it was something people saw in a post once and tried to force as this belief a huge amount of people held so they could have a "gotcha" moment
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>>550268317
It objectively reviewed lower that expected for a new, launch Mario Kart game and people have - rightly - many complaints with it (most notably the fucking nothing, straight road map design).

But the simple fact is that quality for Nintendo games is irrelevant, good or bad. If you're a streamer, you need to be on Nintendo's good side. That's where the content and money is. The only time Sega is good for content is when the new Sonic game sucks.
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>>550268338
Because I hate what this franchise is, not what it used to be. I am a fan of what was, and cheer for the downfall of what is. Simple.
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>>550268338
I don't hate on it enthusiastically. I hope for the best but expect the worse and regretfully I am right more often than I'm not in my predictions on this franchise. You think I'm happy about the fact that we're more of a movie franchise than a game one at this point? Also understand that hate is not the opposite of love. Indifference is.
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>>550268681
seems like time wasted that could be spent getting into something else you enjoy
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>>550268681
based and classicfagpilled
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>>550268228
Goku landing the final hit on Daimao hit hard imo because it was such a-
Nvm this is a sonic thread . Here's a picture.
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>>550265959
why do i get the feel that blaze was designed by a tranny
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>>550268338
>pray for its downfall
I pray for it to get better, but that will only happen when Boost dies.
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>>550268228
>Don't slander her like that, is a very nice girl
Doesn't change the fact that she's a stalker (or at least was)
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>>550268872
Because you spend far, far too much time online
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>>550268878
REAL
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>>550268343
My little war criminal can't be this cute.
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>>550268786
Perhaps it's merely having enough self-respect to know I am worth better, but not enough to leave this franchise
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>>550268338
Anon, think of a childhood friend. You two were the bestest buddies in the whole world.
Eventually he had bad luck with a girl and go really depressed, lost his way and started doing drugs.
Whenever you talk to him now he no longer has any of the spark he had in youth. Hanging out with him is no longer fun. You still like him, you have good memories with him, which he constantly reminds you of. At the same time you notice you don't have any recent fond memories. All of the new memories you have together is either you fruitlessly begging and trying for him to get his life together, or him trying to emotionally blackmail you with those nice old memories to get you to buy more drugs for him.
This goes on and on, and eventually the time you enjoyed spending with him is but a grain of dust compared to the desert of endless stress he has caused you since then.
You want to walk away but you can't. There's loyalty and hope that keeps you close. Yet you understand he's too far gone, it's a burden too heavy to get him back.
Is it then not a mercy to just let him overdose and end the suffering? Would your friend, as he was originally, not rather let it end than to keep the misery going and spreading it to you?
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This is the level of fame SEGA is seeking out.
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>>550266402
>Accidental Avalanche in Spiral Hill festivities kill thousands
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>>550269495
>literally any
Yes. I would be desperate too if my game barely pulled in 1k players
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What is it about a spinoff racing game that has offended one person so thoroughly?
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Sonic
Century of Humiliation
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>>550269495
i dont think anyone of the "big guys" is willing to do it for a good price and this game didnt even make a single million USD on steam
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>>550269507
your Honor, in our defense, we merely wanted to beat the fastest time down the hill
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>>550269782
>one person
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Sega should get someone actually popular to stream Crossworlds.
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>>550269495
They literally have people working on the comic book that can't draw without tracing despite being hired as an artist.
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>>550269874
Not one person, one person so thoroughly
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'ge
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>>550269978
Not for long. SEGA's using AI now.
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>>550266305
Cute N Canon!
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half of the tracks on Sonic's Racing Mixtape is ass and ooc for the wind
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>>550270113
>his ass is NOT listening
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She killed millions.
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>>550269351
with respect to your analogy, it doesn't mean you should be jumping with joy when you hear about him being hospitalized or OD'ing, or standing up and applauding at his funeral, i would assume most people would be more somber in those circumstances, even if a sense of relief was somewhere in the mix
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Soon it won't be SoJ vs SoA. It will all be SEGA of India, and you will clap, my friend.
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>>550266260
>"Okay, before you kys, let's just see if this situation is salvageable. If it isn't, you can go ahead."
What the FUCK, Vector?
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>>550269495
They should have gotten Mr Beast to shill King of Sonic
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>>550266038
>Tails!
is shit.
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>>550270490
He's a detective, not a psychiatrist
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>>550266472
>SEGA hates the exe stuff
Sonic Rivals 2 had a literal nod to Sonic EXE by having Tails race against a demonic looking Sonic. Superstars had a huge shout-out to the Tails Doll creepypasta by intentionally placing the character in the horror themed stage and giving them their own unique disappear animation when attacked by the player.
Sega doesn't mind the creepypastas since they're making people more aware of the Sonic brand in some form.
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Once you get past the crossovers and comicfag pandering, Crossworlds is a pretty shallow game.
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you niggers dont post exe shit ever again
looked up who created that blaze and now xitter's promoting me exeshit everywhere
i dont want that
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>>550270650
>Sonic Rivals 2
I don't care about the stone age, gramps. This aint your time anymore.
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>>550270598
It looks like Chris is kissing Amy's hammer
>>550270651
Do racing games normally have a lot of depth? All the ones I can think of were pretty much entirely about the racing
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>>550270490
I mean that's the most reasonable way to approach things from his perspective. Why the fuck would you want a weapon designed to ultimately destroy the planet to stay alive? If it turns out to be bogus, then Shadow's fine. But if he is just ultimately a weapon then it's literally in Vector's best interest that he die.
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>>550270651
Gadgets are cool; I love point-based loadout systems.
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>>550270782
Agreed, the sonic.exe thing was fun to read once but I don't like how hard people are pushing it and trying to make it more than it really is, I felt the same way about the backrooms, neat concept but EXTREMELY way overdone to the point where I was sick of seeing anything about it
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>>550269053
he can
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>>550268104
That's why it's necessary to create our own stories.
Franchise rot is a real thing and the people in charge are getting increasingly more incompetent.
Sonic isn't cool anymore.
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OM Blaze looks shit
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>>550271196
>Sonic isn't cool anymore
>That's why it's necessary to create our own stories
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hello habibi give us sonic. arab fandoms are very homophobic. we hate shibbing too. (arab dub of sonic x had all the shipping scenes cut)
we provide action shounon only. we also bring back scratch, grounder and the rest of freedom fighters and make parallels between freedom fighters and hamas
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>>550271128
The last horror thing I was into was early SCP. Like up to 2000. Everything after 3000 was just utter shit. Stuff I wouldn't have taken seriously if I was even 10 years old.
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>>550271448
You don't like deer that specifically kills straight people and cant be harmed in any way?
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>>550270893
The weapon in question is sapient, though. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to just tell him to just not destroy and do something else?
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>>550266329
Not in what I've seen
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Why do you want humans in IDW when half of the staff cannot draw humans properly?
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Give us sonic, habibi
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>>550271564
My favorite is the multiple spaceships that are apparently floating in the solar system with planet destroying death lasers that are immune to all damage. Peak human creativity right there.
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>>550271196
Actually this teaches that any good story needs an ending. So to a degree yes making our stories is good.

Still, franchises in general have the big weakness of being money making machines so if it"s a company they hardly want to nuke something popular, another example is tekken... do you really need to revive heihachi again? The hype cools down over time if you keep bringing someone from the dead, in fact the latest iteration tastes like nothing.
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>>550271769
The staff can't write properly yet they still try to give us a story.
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>>550271664
You have to think of it in their world's logic. In that hypothetical situation Shadow is basically programmed to destroy the planet eventually. It's innate to him existentially. That ends up not being the case obviously but at that point in the story in that story path, that is the hypothetical brought up.
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>>550271851
I can see Sonic's boobies
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>>550271564
Goku can still kill it because Goku isn't attracted to women.
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>>550271786
I still laugh at the 900 new SCPs made specifically to attempt to powerscale past 682 because they wanna be the super special Mary Sue
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>>550271685
So OOC it's painful
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>>550271961
but enough about sonic team
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You thought SEGA had low standards before, look at this person pushed to sell Crossworlds.
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>>550272079
Their worst stories are better than IDW's "best" stories.
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>>550270441
Ah, no. At the funurel, yeah you'd just silently feel relief and hopefully choose to remember him by the good times.
The getting angry part is only applied when some other faggot digged out the corpse and started puppeteering it so he could get drugs at a discount. Of course I'd applaud if the drug dealers didn't fall for it and this asshole got some stitches.
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After Yuji Naka was fired, Sonic became a franchise with zero self-respect.
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>>550272341
>after
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>>550272097
That picture is a joke right? Like markiplier doing retarded stuff, right?
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>>550271851
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I dont think anyone cares other than you
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>>550272341
How can this be true when the franchise is currently obsessed with referencing itself.
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>>550272402
Yes, AFTER.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>550272473
referencing stuff from when naka was still making sonic games
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>>550272556
>Forces was good, actually!
>I dont care if he greenest and then sabotaged boom, hes my goat!
>B-balan was good!
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>>550272402
Naka's autism kinda held things together.
Bad NiGHTS clone aside.
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>>550272473
Referencing stuff to sell garbage makes the stuff being referenced less important. Not sure how you see this as respect.
Going back ian flynn style and rewriting scripts or inserting headcannon lore is just about the most disrespectful thing you can do.
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>>550270782
god it's like you guys love being contrarians
she looks so much better than her actual design
Why is Sega so lazy about designs anyways? Sonic used to change boots and braceletes every now and then. People love new skins, but Sega refuse to give their scrimblos new clothes for some reason. Idiots
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>>550272971
I want to trap her in a birdcage with a feeding tube full of my semen
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>>550272971
>god it's like you guys love being contrarians
Why do you think theres so much movie hate, specifically here and here alone?
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Not Sonic + your gay
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Being ooc is a compliment, because the original characterizations are shit. You can get mad, but it's the utter truth. Wind fairy bullshit is gay and no one likes it.
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>>550272971
don’t the mobile games practically pump out tons of skins?
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>>550273439
The original characterizations are good, the current ones are not
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>>550273654
Nope.
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If I stop windposting will you melt my big mushroom head cock with the entrance to your cervix?

No? fuck you and stop shitting on windposters
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>>550273742
I should clarify, for everyone besides Sonic. Windnic is shit I agree with you
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>>550273753
I would like to see it
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if your sonic wouldn't do this, then he is ooc
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>>550273753
Black Knight was the most in character Sonic has ever did and it sold less that 100k. Windnic fucking sucks.
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>>550272971
>she looks so much better than her actual design
It's too fucking excessive and weird she can't be recognized anymore.
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>>550272858
>Forces was good, actually!
>I dont care if he greenest and then sabotaged boom, hes my goat!
What the fuck are you even talking about? Naka was long gone by then.
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>>550273548
and they get maximun traction with minimal effort. Why aren't the main games taking advantage of that? They are the ones that can make real changes to the designs. Most mobile games are just references to other things
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>Sales are up
>Scores are up
>Movies are doing surprisingly well
>Collabs everywhere
>Sonic's friends are back in the games
>Sega is confident in the IP again
Genuinely, give me one reason why you're still doomposting
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>>550274157
It doesn't appeal to me
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>>550274157
Because the Black Arms will rise again
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>>550274157
Does popularity = quality to you?
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>>550274157
>Franchise is currently behind schedule and shit is being delayed, rushed, or cancelled.
You tell me.
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>>550273997
>he doesn't know
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>>550274368
I do fucking know retard, it's just looks worse
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>>550273997
Nigga it's fucking Blaze in a poncho what's so excessive about that?
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>>550273914
Sonic has no character to be out of, he is a mascot.
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>>550274437
>nooooo, you cant take my 2006 models away from me
We will be looking at these tired ass models forever because autistic faggots hate change.
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>>550274157
Because all the side shit is irrelevant if the main games still suck.
Frontiers has a shit ton of problems and if it's going to be the template for the next main game, Sonic Team need to make a lot of changes that I suspect they simply won't.
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>>550274612
>Because all the side shit is irrelevant if the main games still suck.
On the contrary, if the main games still suck then the side shit becomes very important, because otherwise there’s NOTHING AT ALL to look forward to
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>>550274519
Weird ass hair and weird ass shoes, you can't even recognize that's Blaze first look she looks like a furry Hornet or a humanized Espeon
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>>550274612
>Sonic Team need to make a lot of changes that I suspect they simply won't.
Because they simply can't.

The real core issue of the series is that ever since these games stepped into the realm of 3D, the skillset of its developers were lacking compared to their contemporaries. They simply do not have the ability to make truly good games.
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>>550274612
>Frontiers has a shit ton of problems and if it's going to be the template for the next main game, Sonic Team need to make a lot of changes that I suspect they simply won't.
Why would they when the fans eat it the fuck up? They literally just need ONE moment with "aura" and these fags put their blinders on.
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>>550274157
Am I supposed to be happy with a follow to Frontiers, the most nothingburger game I think the series has created so far?
Or praise Crossworlds for being a just okay racer?
Maybe the mobileslop games are worth adoration for being more meaningless shovelware bloating phone storage?
But you’re right, the movies are at least by-the-numbers Western mascot movie quality. Our saviors.
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>>550273753
Is this a roundabout way of saying you want to fuck Blaze?
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>>550274586
So you just hate Blaze, understandable.
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>>550274135
>Why aren't the main games taking advantage of that?
You answered your own question

>they get maximum traction with minimal effort
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>>550274612
Sega/Sonic Team spends more time gaslighting people into thinking a game is good than actually making it good. They're never confident with having a game speak for itself because they know it's either bland or terrible.
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>>550274851
Yes. Any criticism of this major company is a personal attack on me and you hate Sonic.
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>>550274157
Because a lot of sonic fans, especially those on 4chan, are too far deep into the meme that sonic is, was, and always will be "never good"
They are completely terrified of showing any kind of positive emotion to any aspect of the franchise because the fandom has been practically programmed to only ever feel negativity towards Sonic, at least outwardly, lest they suffer the unimaginable indignity of being seen as a fanboy
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>>550273885
yeah I bet
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>>550274971
You don't get to decide what I like or not, actually.
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>>550270782
That's what you get for looking up a shitty character kek
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>>550274838
As much as I liked the boss fights in Frontiers, it's notable that they're the only thing people even remember from that game because the rest of it was boring as all fuck.
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>>550274815
Their mistake was constantly changing gamplay. They could never refine, improve, or add on anything because whatever they're doing would get dropped for something else. How are you supposed to keep up the quality of something if the framework keeps fluctuating?
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>>550275173
Please anon, mushroom heads are cute, why tease me like this?
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>>550275192
But i can confirm it, why do you like her to change so drastically if not having distaste over her?
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>>550275173
This fucking sucks
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>>550275139
>They are completely terrified of showing any kind of positive emotion to any aspect of the franchise
Apart from the universal love for the Adventure games but go off king
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>>550275221
For me it's not even the boss fights because those suck too. It's literally just the music and that Sonic looks cool.
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>we are making money
>why are you doomposting?
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>>550275221
People also remember the fuckass pinball section
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>>550275221
The rest of the game is running around in a wasteland and going through short versions of levels from Generations.
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>>550275312
I am sorry, but there is nothing that I can do for you at the moment.
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>>550275398
>Post about liking the adventure games
>Get immediate pushback from the "Umm the adventure games were bad actually" people who think it's the most profound, jaw dropping take in the world
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Shadow
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>>550275369
Because the ENTIRE franchise needs at least a new coat of paint, and I dont mean exclusively to Blaze. For instance, instance have grown to despise this fucking Sonic model, and will say we need a new one there too. Just because I want change, doesnt mean I hate them. I hate stagnation.
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>>550275514
>The brand new mainline game added 1 (ONE) new level background design and the rest was all re-used assets
How did they get away with this
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>>550275385
>Silver
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Frontiers is probably the worst aging Sonic game in the series. Even Colors (the game that ruined the franchise btw) still holds up.
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Delete all Sonic fans over 25
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>>550275725
>How did they get away with this
Anon, they got away with giving everyone the same boost hallway for 15 actual years, they will buy literally anything with Sonic on it.
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>>550275838
Only 5% of the fandom are left
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>>550275630
That's not a problem with the fanbase, though, that's an issue with content-farming Youtubers and the retard audience who only function to parrot their opinions.
Luckily, this is dying out over time. Slowly, but surely.
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>>550275573
I will remember this slight
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>>550275806
I can still say good things about colors despite it being a 90% 2D Boostslop game with RCS in it. At least the fucking rails didn't pop in.
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>>550275786
This could be us but you're too busy *insert buzzword* posting /sthg/
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It was funny hearing how the pop-in could not be patched because that would involve recreating the game from scratch. Lmao.
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Reminder if the next movie flops it's going to bury this pink retard for the rest of thia franchise useful life.

And instead of the sweet amy rose you'll get an overconfident mary sue whose rolenis to make the entire male cast job so she looks cool.
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>>550276204
I'll take the whole stock (too purposely inconvenience everyone else)
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>>550275773
Silver's mega cock will make her cum so hard she cries tears of joy
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>>550276283
Amy definitely cannot carry a movie, but they weren't gonna risk putting in someone else like Silver who could perform even worse.
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>>550276279
This and the simple fact that even through a reset in the middle of development, it took them 5 years to deliver utter trash.
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>>550276204
Finally embracing weedver
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>>550276283
We're having another movie just 1 year after it, it's going to be like Infinity war and endgame.
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>>550276509
Amy and Vanny WILL be box office hits
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Whisper hasn’t been singing recently
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>>550276509
Good thing Metal Sonic is there to carry
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>>550276501
silverrapefag...
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>>550276665
Nobody cares about Metal Jobber. Both Amyfags and Metalfags are in for a rude awakening.
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>>550276658
She heard Jack in the Box has munchie meals again
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>>550276283
What if it, yet again, does not flop?
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>>550276897
Amy will be allowed to suck Sonic's dick again
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>>550276509
>But-but Silver bad!
He performs better due to continuing the same formula and way less risky for having the majority wanting him next.
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>>550276784
I care.
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>>550277009
Total Ian Death? Sign me up.
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>>550276897
I'm not sure how well the terminal doomers would handle a 4th loss in a row, you can only deny reality so many times
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>continuing the same formula
SSS was a mistake.
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>>550277032
His vocal minority of fans aren't enough to make a movie with him sell.
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>>550276204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWP_uohoKV0&t=178s
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>>550276897
If it doea not flop it means amy is still amy.
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>>550276658
Listen up, girl
Drop your skirt to the floor
Let your clothes, body talk
Shed your skin
Rip your shirt, flesh exposed
Feel hot, feel hard, feel heavy
Fuck who you want
Baby girl, do it just for fun

Hello, what you like? Do you wanna meet later?
Relax and ease your mind 'cause you work so much
I know what you like and you're my main character
I'm here any time, you can call me up

Crave it, wrap it, box
Hard metal, silver stiletto
Devour the entire world
Fuck it, make it yours
Do, do, do, do it
Just for fun

Hello, what you like? Do you wanna meet later?
Relax and ease your mind 'cause you work so much
I know what you like, and you're my main character
I'm here anytime, you can call me up
Hello, what you like? Do you wanna meet later?
Relax and ease your mind 'cause you work so much
I know what you like and you're my main character
I'm here any time, you can call me up
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>>550277158
>you can only deny reality so many times
Movie 3 sits at a 98% user score as of right now. Maybe take your own advice.
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Hear me out, please:
Super Elias
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>Silver
Who?
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>>550268607
You're fucking delusional
Anti-Nintendo grifter content is at it's peak right now
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When I was ten, I was sippin' Shirley Temples
Present day, I'm still sippin' Shirley Temples
My life ain't like a, like a, like a dull pencil
'Cause I'm on my own path, no stencil
Was always a misfit, teachers like thongs always up in my business
And I failed statistics
But I aced sex ed, oh
Said life would have road blocks
Nah bi-, you a square, you Roblox
Won the Super Bowl with my hands behind my back
I just do whatever I want and that's facts
I'ma live 'til a thousand, hit a whip then jump off a mountain
Livin' life with no plans
Look mama, no hands
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>>550277379
In what way? All I've seen recently is MK World glazing and defending the Whedonism in Metroid Prime 4
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>>550277365
They had to include Silver in the art because everyone was expecting him
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>>550277212
That's the same exact thing with Amy, only she's a massive risk due to not having any interesting parts to play in an action movie.
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>>550276665
I'm convinced they only included Amy because they need the obligatory female token character. Otherwise, Metal Sonic is the main star of the show and the one who's going to get a year centered around him.
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>>550277365
reality is a bitter medicine for the delusional
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>>550277302
WOOOOOO GO WHISPER!!!!
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>>550277891
How is Metal Sonic the man star? He's a mass-produced minion in the movies.
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>>550277891
That’s exactly why they did it. The protag must have their corporate mandated gf, and the plot is going to be mainly a romcom because of it.
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>sageposting
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Blaze got a magical girl skin in Rumble
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>>550268886
These accusations never made sense when everyone was designed to follow Sonic because he lead to the adventure.
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>>550278187
I don’t play Rumble.
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>They have to mutate Amy to bring her to the big screen
>Amyfags like this
I'm just waiting for the most hated Sonic character to become the most hated game character.
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Teamshit and core 4 are both as bad as the freedom fighters. Sonic should never have a main group. Tails is already pushing the limit. Change my mind.
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>>550278279
>Super Mario 64
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>>550277749
Amy is far more aggressive than Silver.
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>>550278368
Are your favorite games Sonic 1 and Sonic 4: Episode 1?
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>>550278368
Tails should've been a one-off.
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>>550278031
>man
*main
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>>550276283
Thankfully it's not going to bomb, thankfully, she's not going to make Sonic look weak or berate him. Above all thankfully, she'll be cute and a new wave of Amy fans will be born.
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I like Sage and Metal Sonic being presented as siblings
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>>550278437
In an annoying, comical way, yes.
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>>550276665
>>550276784
I like both, and I appreciate you faggots stick to shitposting Archie and IDW instead of being so fucking obviously bored you're pitting movie characters against another when we're eating good.
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>>550278368
>Change my mind
You are not remotely interested in even the possibility of having your mind changed and nobody else has any reason to attempt to do so
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>>550278368
Nah, Tails is fine. They should just travel around, getting into trouble and fixing issues, and move on to the next.
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>>550278827
Which makes her better than Silver
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>>550277365
>She thinks she is part of the team
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>>550278985
Amy is more popular than Silver
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>>550278746
Agreed, even in spite of the fact that I have no fanart of it saved :(
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>>550278984
I like how your mentality devolved from trying to protect your favorite to failing hard at proving she's better than literal shit.
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Oh, Silverfags melting down again they're gassing Metal up and trying to pit Amyfags against them?
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>>550279186
Buddy, every characterfag is melting down these days
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>>550279186
None of them are here, amyfags are trying to deflect >>550276509, they're just failing heavily.
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>>550279186
Welcome to /sthg/ where the favorite pastime of people with far too much time on their hands is either fabricating internal fandom wars or making up strawmen to be angry at
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>>550279157
Slected that image on accident. Pretty dope adt, though
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>>550278985
Why is Silver there?
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>>550279358
>either fabricating internal fandom wars or making up strawmen to be angry at
All this because REFUSE to hold Sega of Japan accountable.
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>>550278624
Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic and his first three friends should never give the impression that they're a team. Every game that crossed that line has been shitty.
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>>550278279
But that's not Charmey.
>>550277891
They included Amy because she's a legacy and valued roster, fans wanted her and Silver vocally, and she's going to hard mog Peach and this time they know she has the advantage to be the best example of what a strong leading female character should be done.
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>>550279114
The correct word is "infamous"
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>>550274157
Becuse it's a case of Colours
Better than mediocre game releases, Generations is good, we even got a great racing game
That means we're heading for Lost World and Boom

Movies're the only difference
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>>550279482
You’d be wrong again
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>>550276061
Whatever, just don't go fucking lying about me. I have countries I want to visit and I don't want to have to think about you.
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>>550279557
Surge is Sonic's future wife and she will abandon Kit when she realizes what his plan is
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>>550279318
The movie isn't hers alone, newsflash the only character carrying their own franchise is Shadow. Amy's still going to be the most talked about subject of the next film.
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>>550279617
Amy is more recognized as Sonics stalker, and Silver is recognized as a meme, her being more infamous is the correct wording actually.
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>>550279824
Silver is the poster child of the universally regarded worst game of the franchise
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>>550279923
So he's more popular now? can you make up your fucking mind?
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>>550279406
>>550279114
Amyfags really can't take a joke uh?
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They are going to replace Amy's personality with Sally's and even use direct quotes from Satam and Amyfags will grit their teeth and pretend that the movie is good because a creature named after Amy loves a creature named after Sonic.
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>>550279923
Boom?
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>>550278368
You need a consistent group for branding.
Source: Mickey Mouse gang, Mario gang
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>>550266787
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>>550276061
>slight
Thank you for this correction. Those were hard times.
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>>550280016
I never said that? Are you high? Are you smoking Silver’s hair?
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>>550280040
None of this will happen but you will pretend like it did, as per usual.
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People will call Amy a girlboss if she does ANYTHING cool in movie 4, that term has lost all meaning
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>>550280040
If Sallyfags have Archie, Amy can have the movies. Both existed at the same year of each side of Sega, they're just binded that way.
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When will you fags learn that the movies were popular BECAUSE the characters are ooc?
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>>550280132
>"Amy is more popular!"
>"Amy is just more infamous"
>"fine but Silver is more infamous!"
You're just deflected your own shot
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>>550280418
I never said Amy was more infamous, you did smoothbrain
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>>550280324
>/sthg/ hates thing that is more popular than their dogshit games
If I had a nickle...
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Movie Sonic is ooc so calling any pairing with him "Sonamy" is stupid.
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>>550280054
Damn she's hot.
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>>550280367
Only Sonic and Knux are drastically different.
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>girl character gets spotlight
>that one anon: "How can I make this about Sally?"
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>>550280504
If she's not recognised as Sonics stalker then what else is she known for?
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>>550280031
All I did was ask what he's doing there.
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>>550280553
It’s not just sthg, they did this with movie Peach too, plus any female character who doesn’t function solely as eye candy
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>>550280638
And people LOVE this knuckles
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>>550280661
Being in love with Sonic?
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>>550280626
Prime Sonadow is just homosexual Sonamy.
>>550280721
Yeah, because he's entertaining.
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>>550280661
Sonic’s stalker is less infamous and more popular than Silver. That is all I said
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>>550280758
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Fine, your franchise is going well.

BUT, the moment it goes shit i'll be here dumping piss buckets on all the horrible artistic directions it took.
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>>550280852
>a stalker is less infamous and more popular
I have a theory that we don't hate Amy but we just got a terrible rep from her fags
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>>550280809
Yes. Look, what Im saying is that the original characterizations fucking sucks and people like the movies because they're not the game characters.
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>>550280691
To be fair on Peach's case I wouldn't want Amy to look more skilled than Sonic, she absolutely needs to be his cheerleader this film but obviously watch herself well too which she can. Just no "I was wrong about you" or "this is the Sonic the hedgehog I've heard so much about?" Snarky insufferable girl tropes.
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>>550281015
>Fine, your franchise is going well
Who is lying to you?
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>stalker
What is Tails then?
>>550281046
No one here reps anything, /sthg/ is utterly irrelevant.
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>>550281046
I promise you this more me hating Silver than liking Amy
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>>550280324
>This is Sonic
>He is not important
>I mastered my powers of running first since birth or something while you are clearly still a rocky
>I could have defeated Eggman by myself but thank you for being there
>I'm not a girl boss between because I have braindead fans online who will defend me no matter how much I shove my girl futa cock up their throats
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>>550281315
Gay Stalker
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>>550281349
>Esl
He's more popular we know.
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>>550281529
He is not
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>>550281227
Economically it's making money but only because it's going the slop way with shitty crossovers, le canon, shadow being shadow and the movies with fart jokes.

Above everything the movies, because the games still suck ass.
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If you miss your neuralink monthly payments they’ll take your brain and put you in some sicko's VR sex dungeon until your neurons fry
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>>550280156
Is anyone even playing this?
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>>550281413
So the reason stalker is emphasized on Amy because she's a girl.
Therefore stalker is misogyny. But it was okay when Hinata would hide behind trees watching Naruto. Amy never even hid, she made herself known, and Sonic was always leading to the next adventure so the cast was where he was.
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>>550280324
A girlboss it's a type of mary sue.
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>>550281583
But you said he is just now twice? are you ok?
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>>550281873
NO I DIDNT ARE YOU FUCKING SLOW
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>>550281737
gamba addicts, chinks, and literal babies do.
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>>550281941
Just wait out the movies Amytard don't get a melty yet.
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I’m siding with Nicole when she goes rogue and takes over the world. No AI ever called me a slur.
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>>550281315
>What is Tails then?
A mutant freak
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>>550281362
maybe you just hate women
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Truly the end of the series
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>>550282093
Be nice
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>>550280721
>boom makes knuckles stupid
>fans hate it and demand it be changed
>movies make knuckles even stupider
>fans love it and declare the character saved
Retard franchise
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>one day i started to follow sonic instead of searching for food since i'm an orphan left in the forest alone
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>>550282198
This is like 911 for retirement home denizens
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He keeps conflating gullible with stupid.
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>>550282238
Movie Knuckles isn't dumb
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>>550282238
This is how I know you retards argue in bad faith. No one on earth thinks or says movie knuckles is dumber than boom knuckles
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>>550282279
He even tried to seduce him
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Maybe I’ll AI generate a smug chad mobian looking down at a dumb stinky human like pic related
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>>550282238
Movie Knuckles is a good type of stupid not the "what this button do?" type of stupid which makes you boil of anger
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>>550282130
I know I don't like bitches
Now you know why more and more people are just going gay
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>>550282238
He's not stupid, it's fish out of water.
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>>550282238
Movie Knuckles isn't supid, he's dense and uncivilized. There is a difference.
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>>550282238
Knuckles was the most rational character in the third film
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>>550282484
You posting that image tells me that you'd rather fuck a tranny than a woman, so I really don't care what you think.
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>>550282484
Homosexuality and transgenderism and most of all, transhumanism are extremely fucking based

You know it’s based because all the rich people HATE it.
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>>550282484
But gay people like girls in fiction as much as they love boys. Rouge would be your spirit animal.
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>>550282238
Watch boom and the movie again
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>>550282423
>that thing... reminds me of Maria
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Sonic is like the wind!
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>>550282792
Not in the good stories he's not
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>>550282669
Your function is replaced by the artificial womb, which is already being made by China. "Muh babies" is a very stupid thing to base your reason to exist on.

No different than artists who care about being famous losing everything because of AI. Glorious steel and silicon will finally make everyone equal.
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Is Shadow the best rival boss in the series?
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>>550282864
They can never make me hate you all.
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>>550282864
I understand making Shadow black. But silver is just disgusting
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>>550282692
>You know it’s based because all the rich people HATE it.
Whu?
All the turbo rich fags love it to throw it at the slaves. It's a form of infertility and dependency on big pharma.
Guy cuts his dick off now his only purpose in life is following his cult- often the military; That's called a eunuch and it why so many high up rich fags are trannies.
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>>550282904
ywnbaw
You can never replace the genuine touch of a woman.
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>>550283057
Elon and Thiel hate it because it normalizes transhumanism for the goy cattle. If people start bending their gender, then it’s only a matter of time before they start asking for life extension and super intelligence.
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>>550282914
No, he's just the most popular one.
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>>550283034
but silver is one
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>>550283113
>Archie characterization
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>>550282914
I think Blaze in Rush has the most fun boss fight

>>550283223
Why would they hate it? Elon would love to microchip your brain. Biggest power fantasy is to have an AI remotely make you kill yourself because it detected an anti-semitism in your brain activity.
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>>550283187
AI is going to obsolete you, bro. You have no value.

You won’t even be able to fight back.
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>>550283350
>even took away the hug
This franchise is so dull and barren these days
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>>550283113
This is why I don't talk about shipping here anymore, someone will reply le characterizations.
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>>550283350
I'm glad they fixed it
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>>550283323
chest too small
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>>550283323
She stole those boobies somehow.
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>>550283437
Considering I never brought AI up, you are projecting or Indian and for your sake, I hope to fucking god you're merely projecting because I could think of no fate worse than being Indian.
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>>550283350
glad someone cares for the canon
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Amy is going to tongue wrestle Sonic in 4K in theaters
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>>550283523
Blaze isn't one for PDA, anon.
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>>550283635
Terrible cover
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Shitty friends. Shitty friends EVERYWHERE.
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>>550283803
Yeah, I guess so.
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>>550283437
>AI is going to obsolete you, bro. You have no value.
In the future there will be no more armies, it'll just be a bunch of old rich fags with legions of drones at their command. irl Eggman, which means I need to become an irl Sonic
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>>550283921
remember when it was just sonic and dr robotnik? good times
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Sonamyfags refusing to accept how Sonic has always been
Sonallyfags refusing to accept how Sonic is supposed to be
Sonazefags refusing reality as a whole
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>>550283350
Sticks got it easy, everyone else has to put up with a crying dog lesbo that won't leave them alone.
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>>550265959
>>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
I don't really keep up with the series anymore but watch the movies when they come out, what the fuck could this actually be? Has there been any leaks or any hints?
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>>550284251
>has to ask permission from SEGA to form their headcanon
could not be me. my headcanon is correct, and only mine
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do you not tire of forcing the same topics every thread?
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>>550284251
that's why sonegg is superior
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>>550284478
No.
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>>550284416
>what the fuck could this actually be? Has there been any leaks or any hints?
considering they announced this right after filling a new trademark for Shadow, I'm gonna take a wild fucking guess and say it's the shadow show. makes sense to keep selling shadow stuff when he worked and the movies focus on other stuff, really
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>>550266402
Fuck off Woefag
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>>550284645
Shan't.
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>>550284645
not a fucking chance
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Shan't be engaging
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>>550284251
>it's a huge part of human life
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>>550284639
I had no clue there was meant to be a Shadow show, but isn't the 'event' supposed to be a movie? Haven't even watched the Knuckles one yet.
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These guys actually did more damage to Sonic than Arin and the comics combined but I never hear anyone talk about it
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>>550284041
No, the first game I played was Sonic 2 so Tails was always there as far back as I can remember.
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>>550284753
I'm not him, but you seem very committed to thinking I am
maybe you should relax with some tea
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>>550284924
right right, it'll be a movie, then, sorry, I'm a lil tired. You can pass on the knuckles one and lose nothing, really, unless you want to watch a meme show about NOT knuckles
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>>550227293
Yes
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>>550284645
*hides post*
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>>550284251
Enough about shipping.
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>>550284937
I fucking hated these tards back in the day
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>>550284950
ew, non-fan. Of course you would play the easier inferior sequel with a new original character made to appeal to younger players
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>>550284937
Who are they?
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>>550285126
No problem. Yeah I was a bit confused in Sonic 3 when Wade came out because I think he said something in reference to the series but honestly I saw one clip where Knuckles was sitting at a dinner table with a family and didn't really think I was going to get much out of it from that alone.
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>>550285339
this question made me so happy. the world is healing.
these are the original sonic's shitty friends people.
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>>550285241
Mecha Sonic + Egg Robo is harder than Egg Piston Thing
I'm not taking the rest of the bait.
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>>550285174
>We'll never see them again
Why should I even consider playing the new games?
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>>550285440
I don't remember them, if I've ever even seen them. Maybe I'm a little too young. I hope you're right
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N5pFDZTk84
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>>550285620
nice boob holder
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>wake up, wake up my friend.
>It's the dawn of a new day, and you have things to do. I will guide and teach you, and you will learn by doing.
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SO MUCH TO DO SO MUCH TO SEE SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH TAKING THE BACKSTREETS
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>>550286056
Shrek was never good, grandpa.
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>>550284937
I vaguely remember their faces but not much else
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>>550285000
Deflecting blame and playing dumb doesn’t make it any less obvious you’re lying dude. No one else talks about OCshit anymore. No one has recently except for him. You do the fucking math.
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>>550286056
stupid sexy chipmunk
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>>550286269
>Shrek was never good
Leave
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g'night
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Only the most braindead, autistic and retarded posters still bring up ocfaggotry from time to time, but there's this one guy (Woefag) who just can't give it a break.
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>>550286269
All Star was in Digimons first
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>>550265959
OP references the wrong previous thread. Should be >>550199595

>>550249751
There's no candy, it's just little plastic figures.
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>>550284645
This is some randomfox sperging isnt it
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>>550277749
>time travel
>mysticism
>not another misguided violent retard rival
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>>550286687
Complaints about woefag are more annoying than ocfaggotry at this point.
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>>550286289
>playing dumb
I have no reason to do that, I'm not him
>No one else talks about OCshit anymore
happens sometimes, but lately it's just been in response to my posts
your beef with Woe anon is none of my business
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>>550286931
>t. woefag
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>>550286861
You really should read it.
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>>550277891
What the fuck are they gonna do with a year of metal?
New plushies
New tshirts
A clip show of all the times he's jobbed
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>>550287010
>Everyone I don't like is woefag
Whomever this woefag is, they live in your head rent free. Seek therapy.
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>>550284251
>Anti-Sonamyfags refusing to accept how Sonic was always meant to be
Naoto Ohshima and Kazuyuki Hoshino wanted Amy to be his girlfriend but Yuji Naka unilaterally went against that
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>>550278279
They already butchered sonic and you retards have been dicksucking fowler ever since
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>>550287031
That answers my question, thanks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-QMETIkk38
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>>550285486
Amy's panties weren't even good, they looked like diapers
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>>550280031
Yeah silver is a joke
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>>550287235
>once great, simple characters destroyed by the very japanese people that own them
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>>550280049
No one gives a fuck about boom. This franchise still had a reputation to lose before 06 launched
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>>550280661
Being more salvagable than Silver >>550281015
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>>550286687
>>550287010
Thank you, someone else is smart here

>>550286931
If we had to deal with his bullshit with none of you complaining, you can deal with this

>>550286932
>I have no reason to do that
He quite literally did this shit all the time. Bring up some vague statement about OCs so he could samefag reply with her and continue the “discussion” just like you’re doing

>>550287136
I’ll get therapy once he does, he clearly needs it more. Who am I kidding, he’s too retarded to realize it
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>>550287545
I used to be kind of jealous of Megamanfags. Now that they have another new game coming their way with a fucking cool looking design, I think I might abandon ship.
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>>550287869
>I think I might abandon ship
You wish you could abandon this ship. You'll be back.
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>>550287947
>You wish you could abandon this ship. You'll be back
Fuck you. You're right.
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>>550287794
>Bring up some vague statement about OCs so he could samefag reply with her and continue the “discussion” just like you’re doing
cool, but I just like OCs and making my silly posts is just a way for me to express that a little
rarely am I expecting anything but a similarly silly reply in return
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i hate dramafags
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>>550288109
that's not even a fucking oc
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>>550288167
So stop talking about them and talk about Sonic. What's your favorite spin off game?
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>>550282415
>>550282453
>>550282504
>>550282517
>>550282536
>>550282713
t. People who love their drax expy
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>>550288109
More viable design for a Sonic character than Silver
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>>550288215
eh, some of you call the FFs and IDW characters OCs, don't see how the Hobidon lion would be different
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>>550288246
atm crossworlds cos it's really fun still, but I guess my out-there pick would be shuffle? Way back i would play shuffle with friends and I fkin loved it back then. Idc most people think it sucks, that shit was fuckin fun
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>>550288343
This your goat?
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>>550288109
>cool, but I just like [most autistic shit ever]
lol
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>knuckles shit stirring
>silver shit stirring
>amy shit stirring
hi Bulmabitch
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>>550288109
im gonna ask that silverfag to commission this lion getting fucked by silver
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>>550288562
you're posting on a sonic 4cuck general
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>>550288408
>Idc most people think it sucks, that shit was fuckin fun
This should be your mindset for the entire franchise, like your favorites. Fuck anything else. Also Shuffle rocks.
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>>550288564
Yeah man, if you don't like the direction they took movie knuckles you must be a namefag. He's actually le heckin genius warrior alien despite sounding like he has cerebral palsy. When someone with down syndrome speak I sit my ass down and LISTEN because I know they could have 500 iq, even if they're currently shoving a pb&j into the ol' vcr
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>this
>Lunar and Soleil
>Spagonia everywhere
>Tori
>Werehog in Crossworlds
If Frontiers 2 isnt going to be basically Sonic World Adventure 2, I'll be mad because everything points at this direction
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>>550288865
I DIDNT KNOW
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>>550285174
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>>550289113
Sonic Team is never going to do something that makes sense
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>>550288865
I will now read your manga
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>>550288551
Tbf, it's heavily implied that the attack would have been a resounding success had infinite and the phantom ruby not been at there. They only learn about him after he shows up and basicslly solos their forces. They use the same battle plan after he's taken care of and win decisively.
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i feel like the VGAs were a great humbling moment to those that think frontiers 2 will be any better.
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>>550289113
You will only have yourself to blame
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alternatively, IDW is pandering to the tumblr crowd, Blade of Courage is pandering to 2000s nostalgia and "Sun and Moon" are the bare minimum of thematic concepts.
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>>550289596
You're still dependent on an all or nothing strategy at that point
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>>550285174
Spats are hotter and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. The implication of athletics and sweat is greater than your standard, boring panty affair.
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>>550289665
cute noodle
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>>550286692
No, it's was in The Mystery Men first
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>>550290184
You don't like Amy
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Drink up, anon
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>>550286891
>Time travel
She's not that's Sonic dipshit
>mysticism
Are you a tranny?
>not another character that challenges and fights Sonic
That's the issue, she's nothing that brings excitement. only ship faggotry
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All girls should be bottomless and featureless.
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white panties in japanese culture was used to refer to purity and virginity. the fact that she wears spats now means Amy FUCKS
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GirlCharacterfags are so fucking annoying.
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>>550290460
ok abt
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>>550290561
Yeah I know right, they have cooties
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i like girlbosses
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>>550290535
Whats her body count?
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>>550290294
That does not sound like an issue there anon
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>>550290709
Married with 1, or innumerable, no in-between.
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>>550290372
im intolerant to hedgehog cum
i'd drink jet's cum tho
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>>550290790
For me it's muzzle dominance
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Amy best appearance is her being a shit character, how would that go for the movies?
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>>550290790
You fags want me to take you seriously when you're doing this "his arms aren't blue" shit?
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>>550291203
You ever watched Captain Marvel?
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Sonic Battle: Amy is hostile because she thinks another girl is flirting with Sonic
Sonic Rush: Amy is hostile because she thinks another girl is flirting with Sonic
IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog: Amy is hostile because she thinks another girl is flirting with Sonic
Sonic Boom: Amy is hostile because she thinks another girl is flirting with Sonic
Sonic X: Amy threatens to damage Chris to draw Sonic out


Archie Amy is apparently the most "reasonable"
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drink the milk
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>>550290672
Who's your favourite in the series?
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>>550291454
>Cuckmy is best Amy
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>>550291582
Wow, anon, I fucking hate that image, thanks.
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>>550291454
amyfags.... i mean sonamyfags seem to hate archie the most
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>>550287984
Cute boy
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>>550291757
Cuckver
>>550291813
Cuckmy
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>>550291842
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>>550291813
I didn't know they allowed glitchtext here after people went crazy with it.
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>>550291757
It's always people fighting over ships as if they were in real life and i'm wondering why is Silver there even?
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So are we going to agree that the Amyfag who was derailing the thread was a Blazefag all along?
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>>550292002
Cute dog
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>>550291813
Amy Rose speaking the Black Arms native language
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>>550289838
Blade of Courage is vaguely inspired by the movies (human focus) and is made for Japanese children. The reason it resembles Japanese Sonic stories is because it's Japanese media made by Japanese people in Japan following established Japanese Sonic reference material, lore, and design conventions, as well as general Japanese style writing for Japanese boys, to make a Japanese product for the Japanese audience. The fact that it appeals to 2000s nostalgia is basically a coincidence.
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>>550292261
The only thing I'm "agreeing" to is that shippingfags might just be fucking worse than Tailspedos.
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>>550292385
Japanese like big floppy Latina milkers
that's BoC in a nutshell
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ABT should do the art for all female Sonic characters
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>>550292385
that makes sense
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>>550292002
This hedgehog ate my son.
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Sonazefags are fucking awful and they don't understand Sonic.
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>>550292426
Not subtle tailspedo
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>>550290460
Thanks for your opinion, chibijenhen
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>>550292838
Who faps to this shit
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I've taken foot-long rancid stinky shits more appealing than sonamy and silvaze
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>>550292807
Only if he has the eyelashes on. Tails (Girl) is hot as fuck.
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>>550292981
i'd be passable if not sfm
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>>550292981
men
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Do you draw much?
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>>550293013
You just want to fuck Cream but fox
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>>550293251
Well, yeah, that too.
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why are /sthg/ anon cuck-fetishists
what led to acquiring this fate
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>>550293423
minimum effort shitposting
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>>550292981
Silver, he's right there?
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>>550293423
Cuck fetishes are fucking based if you insert yourself as the bull, barely any smut games do that tho, which is turbo gay.
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>>550293078
Better, but still too much bloopshit
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Nothing gets me harder than to watch this stupid bitch and her parasite gay faggot hedgehog friend get cucked having their love crushed and kill themselves. There's nothing hotter than fucking the shit out of a hot bitch while a stupid cunt who wants your dick so badly watches sobbing and then dies because they need your cock because you're the best and they're not worth jack shit.
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There's also
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>>550294326
>cock longer than she is tall
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>>550294326
Jesus
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>>550292523
Might get him to re-draw picrel.
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>>550292838
This fucking sucks. Putting blobian heads on immaculately sculpted human proportioned bodies has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves in this fandom.
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>>550291842
>amyfags.... i mean sonamyfags
I appreciate that correction.
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>>550294326
he worked....so hard drawing this


for what purpose
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>>550294589
Okay but female blobian heads on human woman bodies goes hard tho and I'll fight you on that
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>>550292261
I only agree that talking about shipping here sucks.
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>>550294709
Self-gratification, which is the only purpose humans have
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Sperg
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>>550295086
that's what the archons want you to believe
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>>550294813
Then we will fight!
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>>550282761
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consume your slop
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People have said this for years but would sonic really improve from being snatched up by Nintendo?

I imagine it's the same dweebs that want Disney to have DC and Loony Tunes so they can get their le epic one world Marvel/DC, Looney Tunes/ Mickey Mouse characters

Still, Sega COULD of had an extended universe for Sonic consistaning of Puyu Puyu, NiGHTs, JSFR, Billy Hatcher and I dunno Virtal Fighter if those IPs had any fucking staying power like all of Nintendo's shit has imagine if Sega Smash Bros was made, it'd sell like garbage because nobody knows nor cares who half the fucking cast is look at how fucking badly the sega and sonic series did nobody cares nobody even knows it's all so fucked!!!
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strong contender for the worst thread of the year
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>>550296038
nah. there has been worse
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>>550296038
said the amycuck
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>>550296038
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>>550296038
That depends if the schizo posts gore
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>>550296030
Yeah, this might break the fandom
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Bun!
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>>550296309

I'm not going to pretend Cream didn't like it.
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I like Sonaze, this anon has convinced me this is cute
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>>550296451
depends
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I liked Sonaze, you guys convinced me it's just shit.
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>>550296672
If you actually like Sonaze you might not like anything from this fandom.
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>>550282198
Wait, Google was still working on Dreamcast?
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>>550295994
Nintendo would
>solidify a fairly consistent setting and visual design
>not cause stuff like SatAM or the other Western projects to happen, or at the very least make sure any auxiliary media is kept to a internal standard
>not be afraid to let the side characters go off and do things without Sonic (Shadow would definitely have his own subseries, the Chaotix too)
>be expected to QA their releases more than ST does
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>>550296672
I like it, I don't like shipping here.
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What if Sonic was a serial rapist but everyone was too scared to confront him about it?
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>>550296968
Why is it so hard for Sonic Team to do this? If they want to surpass Nintendo, this is the bare minimum they need to do
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>>550297183
Oh, totally fair
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Sonic Artists for this feel?
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>>550296968
In the other hand:
>nintendo would kill any sonic fan game
>various fan projects would be killed
>no shipping would exist because every character would have a canon pair
>Sonic x as well would never exist, as well any other cartoon
>Sonic would be forever locked on portables like DS, 3DS and switch
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>>550294326
Wait a second, this isn't ungulatr!
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Alright feddies. You can disconnect me (Ryan Lopez-Jordan) from the bozos who throw around shit like serial rape when you know I'm a very chill person to be around, and everyone who has ever wanted to fuck me got my consent in advance.

Thanks for the unplug, but it's obvious this is another one of those instances where "rape" is being used as a mindgame.
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I've eaten shit before and it was a more pleasant experience than seeing the "highest quality" sonamy and silvaze fanart
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>>550297593
>ungulatr
Excellent taste
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Sonamy is the only in-character pairing for Sonic or Amy
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>>550297453
>go onto booru
>sonic femboy rating:e tails
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>>550297898
What if I don't care if it's in character?
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>>550298028
Then you don't care if it's in character
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>>550297898
>t. Amy
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>>550297898
>sonamy
>in-character
retarded faggot your crackship will never be canon fucking kill yourself
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sally had her whole relationship with sonic permanently retconned and amyfags are still mad about it
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Sorry crackanons, but the trifecta will always prevails
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>>550298326
It is in my headcanon, therefore it is canon. I will hear nothing else.
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>>550297378
The only answer I can see is that they never cared that much about brand cohesion and presentation until it was too late.

>>550297582
>nintendo would kill any sonic fan game
>various fan projects would be killed
Not super deep in the Nintendo fangame space, so won't comment.
>no shipping would exist because every character would have a canon pair
Literally no company is going to stop fandoms from shipping and a canon pair has also never stopped that.
>Sonic x as well would never exist, as well any other cartoon
Pretty sure various Nintendo games have had anime or animated shows.
>Sonic would be forever locked on portables like DS, 3DS and switch
I'd be okay with console exclusivity if the games were of a more consistent quality.
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>>550298326
Cope. 2027 is going to break you and the Sonadow fujos forever
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>>550298484
amy dies alone and unloved just like you faggot
>>550298520
>its my headcanon so its canon because im a fat retarded faggot who needs to be arped by a chainsaw
kill yourself mentally ill crackship cuck
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I'm still pissed about it
Knucklesfags tell me if i'm being a baby, but Isn't Knuckles supposed to be a King as well in Amys fortune cards?and they made Chaos 0 a king instead?
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>>550298853
Nope, it's canon because I say it is and you can die mad, nigga
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>>550298778
>crackship collage
kill yourself cuck
>>550298872
fuck off idwfaggot
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>>550298991
go back to sucking tyrone's cock jamal you fucking faggot and od on fent
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>>550298872
he got demoted to a stoopid friend. besides his debut game, only archie took him seriously
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>>550299252
awww, mad at my superior canon, bitch? suck my dick, biiiiitch sonamy forever, because I will it, so it will be.
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>>550298676
Did Nintendo actually keep the Mario brand cohesive even back in the 90s when communication was difficult? If so, that shows how abysmal Sega is in terms of quality assurance and care for Sonic's mythology
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>>550284251
Sonamy fans exclusively looking at it from Amy's perspective is going to be as hyperfixated on romance as Amy is and project their own desire onto Amy's desire for Sonic.

And the opposite end is those who look at it from Sonic's perspective exclusively and conclude that Sonic must hate her, which is just completely false.

The true way to understand Sonamy is to look at it from both sides and understand both sides. Sonic likes Amy deep down, and Amy doesn't want to tie Sonic down. This is what creates balance.
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>>550299313
Even after the second movie? i refuse to believe he did not get a massive glow out of it
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You're so painful to perceive. None of it is my fault. Go buy another winner, this one's not for sale.
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>>550299720
I'm gonna nut to that 'nilla
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>>550299605
sonamy isn't and never will be canon you ooc loving crackship cuck nigger do suck my cock eat my shit kill yourself
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What a bunch of cracked cucks
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>>550299909
Stay fucking mad, it's canon because I want it to be and I'm just gonna keep posting pics of them as long as it makes your sorry ass mad, get fucked bitch.
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>>550299605
That doesn't create balance, that creates. What's the point of ship teasing them if they're never going to get together. It's not good writing. It's a waste of time. It's like creating constant suspense in a horror movie with no climax or resolution
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>>550299909
Sonic canonically likes Amy deep down, he just doesn't care for romance at all with anyone regardless of whatever romantic feelings he does have.

Sonic's the kind of guy to get hit by Cupid's love arrow or be magically hypnotized by a Succubus, and look like it had no effect on him at all whatsoever on the outside even if it did.
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>>550299660
he only got to be important in movie 2. in 3 he was just a stoopid friend. the knuckles series was about Wade playing bowling
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>>550299720
cant stop the croc
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You can be a Sonicfag but not be a Sonamyfag
You can't be an Amyfag and not be a Sonamyfag
Therefore, all Sonamyfags are Amyfags. Who probably self-insert as Amy (some of them are male, even. Yikes!)
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Ship teases are a marketing ploy.
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>>550300156
I need him to be a king as well
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>>550300064 (me)
* That creates tension
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>>550299348
evil!
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Amytroons will never ever beat the allegations.
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People keep posting ship this ship that but they're literally just words on my phone.

I don't need to ask why they're so insistent on posting [character1][character2] words. There's nothing to it.
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>>550300064
Sonic will NEVER settle down, be in a committed relationship at all EVER. He is a nomad who detached himself from worldly concerns, he is "the wind". He's never gonna have a "Girlfriend" or "Wife" or anything.

Oh, and by the way, here is Amy Rose, whose entire identity is being "Sonic's Girlfriend" and loudly asserting herself as such and smothering him in affection.

Sonic and Amy's relationship is balancing both of these concepts and finding balance between the contradictions.

It's like having one character whose whole point is being the strongest and NEVER losing fights EVER, AGAINST ANYONE. But the other character has the very specific point of ALWAYS defeating the first character in every single fight they have, and being stronger than him, despite the first character specifically being 'the strongest, no exceptions'.
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>>550300297
So is the "canon".
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>>550300301
I remember Knuckles being one of my favorites back in the day. but I grew to dislike him as time went on. The conclusion I've reached is that sega treats him bad by making him retarded. and I subconsciously started to dislike him as a result.
i hate sega so much
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>>550299461
The only missteps I can honestly think of is the Super Mario cartoon and the infamous live action movie, but those things didn't last too long and aren't really brought up much anymore.

In comparison, SatAM and Archie are still pretty well known in the Western fandom. Then the fandom separated Classic and Modern because of the soft reboot nature of it. Then Sega adds Boom and the recent movies to the mix, and all of these depictions are hotly debated on what is or isn't "Sonic".
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why is anon so keen on mistreating these poor animals
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>>550300468
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If you don't like Sonamy then you don't like Sonic
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>>550300945
shut the fuck up yoshiwii
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Imagine trying to track down exact wording styles of someone who btfo you ten years ago
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>>550300468
That kind of dynamic is literally an argument to moderation fallacy, also known as the middle ground fallacy.
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>>550300275
I just prefer to post solo Amy because this place can't talk about shipping.
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>>550301297
Too bad we can't all be fast
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>>550301297
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SURGE OR SONURGE
SURGE WILL NEVER BE RELEVANT
SONIC WILL NEVER LOVE HER
SHES UGLY
ITS OUT OF CHARACTER
IT WONT HAPPEN
SEGA WONT EVEN LET IT HAPPEN
SHES PROBABLY A LESBIAN
YOU DONT LIKE SONIC
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>>550300662
SatAM was a mistake and Archie should've been supervised by Sonic Team but I'm not sure how they would do that given how long-range communication was more difficult and language barriers were bigger back then. Boom was a mistake as well
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>>550301736
I am easily distracted by small brown insects traversing in random directions in my room.
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>>550301632
Ok yoshiwii
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>>550300275
No, Amyfags (who like Amy and Sonamy but are tried of shipping discourses wether from their own sperging out, or falseflagging, or both) aren't under the same label as Sonamyfags (vocal about the ship but either sperg out or are easy targets to rile discourse)
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>>550301736
I am right now, actually, just nothing sonic related.
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>>550299720
You cheeky fucks.
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Voicefaggot will never understand Sonic
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>>550300551
So you should hate sega not knuckles
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Voicechad really understands Sonic
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>>550301204
It's just the dynamic born from giving a love interest to a character that effectively shouldn't have a love interest.

Sonic is meant to be cool and aloof and a free spirit. A "Cool Guy" is often visualized as being surrounded by at least one girl fawning over him, but part of being that "cool guy" is effectively being ABOVE the whole "fawning over someone else" thing and being independent.

Amy is designed to be the love interest for THAT. So, she's a genki girl chasing after her "senpai", while he doesn't seem to care (on the surface, at least). It's meant to be "interesting" to see how this develops, to see Amy get closer to Sonic, to see if Sonic really does care about Amy deep down, etc.

But at the same time, SONIC is a mascot character, an aspirational figure, a "Symbol", like Batman. "Batman" is never gonna stop being "BATMAN". Mickey Mouse is the FACE of Disney, for better or worse. That is what Sonic is, he's never gonna "change". But Amy is meant to grow in her own way. So Sonamy can only develop on her end, not his, but that also keeps it stagnant because relationships require both sides mutually growing closer.

If Sonic and Amy officially got together in a major way, that could threaten to severely alter Sonic's own character. The same applies to if Amy ever "moved on" from Sonic, that just ain't happening ever. The very nature of their characters keep them deadlocked forever. A never ending chase that'll last for cosmic eternity.
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Why are we arguing when Frontiers already confirmed Sonamy?
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>>550265959
Send your voice requests and discussion topics here.
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>>550302234
Remember me? I was promised something epic for the weekend. Involving Eggman and tea. Just curious how it turned out?
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>>550300947
tiddy
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Sonurge has to be the worst ship that people post here. They literally hate each other you fucking retard. It will never happen
You don't care about writing or character..there is nothing good about this. You just want to see hatefucking.
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>>550301676
I don't think adaptations or reimaginings are mistakes, they're fairly neutral in concept. The crux of the process to me are the goals of the adaptations. Most adaptations call for a more flexible Sonic, which I think is the source of most of the ire about how he's characterize in them.

But I agree communication would've been fairly difficult. Having one of two representatives in America to help with general notes might've been a good idea.

>>550301736
I do, just haven't drawn today yet.
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>>550302139
I don't care about corporate capeshit. Sonic is supposed to be a person, not a product. He's a character with depth, not a static cereal box mascot. Sonic and Amy getting together wouldn't threaten his character. It wouldn't be a problematic or oppressive relationship. Rather, it would cause Sonic to have character growth. I'm not going to defend corporate capeshit and ship-teasing being used a cheap marketing ploy under the specious argument that "it's in character" when a thorough analysis shows that it's bad
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>>550302449
This
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>>550302003
sonic team can't write good stories nor make fun games and they no longer let third parties have their way due to "brand consistency" and Iizuka's "unified sonic experience" whatever that is. only hollywood can get away somewhat.
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>>550302742
>Rather, it would cause Sonic to have character growth.
How do you give "character growth" to a character that's NOT MEANT TO GROW?!

That's why Kamina dies in Gurren Lagann. The entire anime is about growth and evolution, but Kamina is already at his apex and not meant to grow any further, so he's killed off. Sonic as a franchise is like if Kamina was the main character. Sonic is not meant to grow. He inspires growth in others. He is an unattainable symbol.
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>>550301736
No need when ai can do everything.
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>>550302946
God that show is so gay
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Once again it's the fans wanting to change things because they don't like Sonic under Sega
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>>550303147
You say that until I ask you to generate smut then you fags act like cowards and refuse to gen it.
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>>550303183
There's nothing gay about a show where the entire second half is a guy going to the literal edge of existence and reshaping heaven itself just so he can marry the girl he likes.

The point here is just that Sonic would never do that kind of thing himself because he's got better things to do than obsess over a girl or dedicate his whole life to some girl.
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>>550302946
So you're basically saying he should be a Gary Stu who can't learn from mistakes and lacks the ability to be emotionally intimate with his closest friends and loved ones? Come on. People using the excuse that Sonic is free as the wind" are just Brandnic bootlickers using Windnic as a front
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You really shouldn't waste time or energy getting upset about shipping, nothing you do or say will ever cause people to not ship the stuff they already do, so all you're doing is giving yourself stress
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>>550295994
>would sonic really improve from being snatched up by Nintendo?
Lol no.
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>>550303315
I was talking about myself, not contentfags.
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>>550302234
I would like to correct something that was brought up in one of your voice files. Sonic was *always* supposed to be the "Greater than us Gary Stu Jesus nice guy". That isn't something Sonamyfags or game purists invented. The incedental moments of him having flaws in the games are often either dub changes (Sonic calling himself cool/awesome/boasting) or anomalous ("We're Sonic heroes!"). He was always meant to be the "ideal" character like Santa or a Fairy godmother. That was a thing before even the first game. There's times in the games where Sonic needs to be saved, protected, or aided in some way. Too easy to name. But on a thematic/emotional level Sonic isn't meant to go on character arcs or be left yearning. His motivation is "Because I want to". It's also definitely true that there are games like Rush or Forces that rub the player's nose in this idea that Sonic is the greatest and everyone else is lame in comparison.

Whether or not you consider that good or bad is a different story though. I honestly think disdain for IDW's attempts to make him vulnerable has boosted dogmatic favoritism towards Games Sonic.
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>>550303328
It's anime, it's plenty fucking gay
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>>550265959
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>Sneaks into your officially released game
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>>550296968
>solidify a fairly consistent setting and visual design
Zelda, like Sonic, has a different art style in nearly every game.

>not cause stuff like SatAM or the other Western projects to happen, or at the very least make sure any auxiliary media is kept to a internal standard
Nintendo of America made a live TV show game for kids that's all about some man playing the role of Bowser threatening children (the audience)

>not be afraid to let the side characters go off and do things without Sonic (Shadow would definitely have his own subseries, the Chaotix too)
Nintendo only seriously does this with Mario characters

>be expected to QA their releases more than ST does
The Pokémon slop garbage they approve yearly is significantly worse than anything Sonic Team has ever done
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>>550303782
Made for incest.
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>>550303376
>So you're basically saying he should be a Gary Stu
Learning from mistakes and being emotionally intimate with friends and loved ones is for characters like Tails.

Sonic is "COOL", so he has to be above those things. Sonic is "FREE AS THE WIND", so he has to be detached from all worldly concerns. Sonic is a "MASCOT", so he has to stay recognizably the same and embody a specifical aspirational ideal that inspires fans to follow him.

Sonic has to be these things in order to be Sonic the Hedgehog, and keep the franchise running forever. A deeper protagonist that undergoes serious character growth, has relatable flaws and weaknesses, and has stronger emotional bonds with other characters, would have to be, and should be, Miles "Tails" Prower.
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>>550303782
This will always be funny.
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>>550302439
I got caught up with IRL but it's on the backburner, I am so sorry life's been crazy.
>>550303279
https://voca.ro/1mFZHI6I4Vpz
>>550303406
https://voca.ro/155CyAJ37X6i
SEGA games story not the games themselves.
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>>550303376
nta but Sonic is by all means a traditional Gary Stu. I don't think he was well written ever. Windnic=Brandnic. There is no difference when the only thing separating them is that Wndnic might love Amy while Brandnic strictly doesn't. Sonic isn't a real person. He doesn't have any internal thoughts. Someone who carries away the interpretation that Sonic is incapable of romantic love will probably never actually have a reason to question it.
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>>550303965 (me)
That being said, the easiest way to kill BOTH Sonic & Tails is to glorify Sonic to such an insane degree that the very idea of Tails ever amounting to anything becomes laughable.

This makes Sonic's coolness seem artificial and forced, and completely undermines the effect he's supposed to have on Tails, who was introduced as being able of keeping up with him and doing what he does.

Sonic is at his best when he inspires others to become better. Sonic is at his worst when others are made worse just to make him look better.
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>>550304110
Ok, good luck.
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The final blackpill is accepting Sonic was always meant to be a soulless corporate mascot tailor made with the ideas of what being cool in the 90s meant with the sole purpose of making money
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>>550304256
This is exactly what Sonic Team has done for 20 years
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>>550304371
but he's kinda cool
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>>550304256
This has already happened
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Sonamy has to be the worst ship that people post here. Sonic literally hates Amy you fucking retard. It will never happen
You don't care about writing or character..there is nothing good about this. You just want to see a crackship you can self-insert into.
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>>550304110
Yeah. I didn't want to come at it from the angle of "The games did it so it's good". A lot of people have that opinion and it basically appears in every japanese instance of Sonic's character.

I think this confounds a lot of the discussion around Sonic's character. "Sonic is X, Sonic should never X" both get conflated. The truth is that Wind/Brandfags are correct in the objective sense. The Japanese version of Sonic is always portrayed as practically being worshipped but being too humble to take it seriously. Having prophecies about him. The universe bending space an time to proclaim he is the greatest. It is a hardline fact that this is just what Sonic is over in jp (You can probably blame Naka for this).

Another thing people never point out is that Sonic is based on his creator's idea of what is cool and his creators are a bunch of nerds. Yuji Naka in particular clearly has extremely bad social skills and is unrelenting in his biases. Sonic being perfect is a reflection of that.
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>>550304741
Here's a cute comic I will be posting
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>>550304749
>Sonic is Yuji Naka's self insert
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>>550304749
>Another thing people never point out is that Sonic is based on his creator's idea of what is cool and his creators are a bunch of nerds. Yuji Naka in particular clearly has extremely bad social skills and is unrelenting in his biases. Sonic being perfect is a reflection of that.
That's a groundbreaking explanation to why autistic people gravitate towards Sonic. He's an autist's idea of cool.
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I'm not surprised people's opinions are this incorrect.
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Amy is essentially Sonic's Heart incarnate.

Sonic, as a "cool guy" whose free as the wind, keeps his own feelings hidden. He is "aloof and detached" so you will NEVER see him emotionally vulnerable ever. ...And so, that very "emotional vulnerability" is embodied by Amy. Amy is like if Sonic's own Heart was out in the open screaming everything he really feels inside. This is basically what their dynamic is.

Sonic running from Amy, is Sonic running from his own feelings. He's detached from all worldly concerns, he has let go his earthly tether, but the living embodiment of his heart's bonds is constantly chasing him. How can you be "free as the wind" when you've got an emotional bond? Amy says she doesn't wanna tie Sonic down, and this is true, but the very idea of this relationship between them in and of itself is already a tether of sorts. An unbreakable connection, that binds them together even if they are worlds apart.

The kind of thing Sora in Kingdom Hearts uses as a literal power source, is the very thing Sonic avoids like the plague.

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>>550304513
And that is a serious problem.
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>>550304110
nta but surely you have noticed that sonic has literally never gone on a hero's journey in the games despite being the title character? That's because he was already at the end of it by the time the games started.
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>>550304794
>here's an OOC shitty comic I will be spamming
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>>550305000
oh hey i got trips

>>550305118
>OOC
It is in character because I will it to be, you big silly bitch. you don't get to decide, I do, It's my headcanon and you're living in it.
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>>550305118
That is one of the most in character comics posted so far.

Stay free
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>>550304876
>That's a groundbreaking explanation to why autistic people gravitate towards Sonic. He's an autist's idea of cool.

It's pretty simple
>Sonic will never have to learn social skills, everyone loves him
>The only people who dislike Sonic are blatantly wrong in the head in some way
>Sonic never had to learn morality. Him doing as he pleases coincidentally lines up with all things good
>Sonic doesn't have to commit to anything that breaks his hyperfocus (adventures)
>Sonic doesn't have to answer to any authority figures
>Sonic doesn't have to compromise (Autists hate having to compromise)

The eggmoon retardation is a perfect example. Sonic just happens to be the only living creature on earth to remember that the earth spins. Why does everyone else forget? All the "normal" people are too busy caught up on things that are not interesting to Sonic, so they all miss the literal most obvious thing of all time. It's common for autistic people to think that neurotypical people are just dumber than they are when the sad truth is that the average person is decently intelligent and rarely feels the need to prove it.
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>>550305208
I would shit on the Evan Stanley-esque expressions but the artist is a chud so she's spared for now
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>>550305208
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Am I actually seeing discussion happening instead of a meltdown about the comics or shows or some random pairing for the fifteen trillionth time?
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>>550304749
https://voca.ro/1bpsRHOJv20X
>>550305035
That's insane I never realized that. What about Sonic and the Black Knight?
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>>550305461
Sonic and the Black Knight toes the line. It puts Sonic in an authoritarian environment with a villain who is physically stronger than he is. But in the end of the day what wins over? Sonic's existing free spirited nature. There is nothing Sonic actually has to "learn" that contributes to his victory in the end. He does not take on the Knights code of chivalry. In fact the game spends the entire course punishing all things different to Sonic's POV. The fact that Sonic physically struggles in the end just does a great job hiding the fact that morally, spiritually and all other abstract manners that Sonic is "invincible"
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>>550305448
We do that when the weirdos with parasocials fixations are asleep.
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There's an episode of, like, Avatar the Last Airbender where the only way Aang can open his crown chakra and tap into the cosmic energies of the universe is to let go his attachments, i.e. his love for Katara (his love interest), and he just can't do it at first and outright refuses to.

Sonic basically already let all that stuff go, and opened his chakras up to all the divine cosmic energies of the universe, and thus refuses to be brought back "down to earth" by something like "love" of all things. He has already opened his heart, lived and learned, and has made this place HIS WORLD. That's why the entire point of Sonamy is Amy having to catch up to HIM, and prove that she can be with HIM, and get on HIS level.

>>550305461
>What about Sonic and the Black Knight?
Did you play it? The entire point is that Sonic dropped into this world and changed everyone else's perspectives just by being himself. He doesn't play by their rules, he makes his OWN rules and they are the ones learning from HIM.

I recommend watching this video to really understand Sonic's character and how his stories work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8TkMtf9es
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>>550305461
This is literally the core reason why westfags and jpfags will never ever get along. Westfags *actually like* their versions of Sonic. JPfags *Actually like* perfect godnic. Compromises like IDW and Reboot Archie only get on peoples nerves and its the inevitable fate of all non-JP Sonics to end up in the vault.
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You people are legitimately retarded
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>>550305802
OTP OTP OTP OTP OTP
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>>550305461
Black Knight Sonic only ever has to learn how to swing a sword and the rest of the game sucks his dick. He gets in a rough physical spot but the moral of the story is still "Sonic is always right get good". He completely rejects every other lesson and Caliburn simply stops resisting him over time. That's why the story isn't about him, it's about Merlina. Sonic can't fit in the standard protagonist role.
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Okay but we all agree that if Tails was a girl everyone would just accept that Sonic is fucking her right?
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>>550305909
I don't count sonamyfags as "people".
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>the only way you can meaningfully challenge Sonic is the shonen power level trap
>which doesn't matter because Sonic will win in the end anyway
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>>550306014
Yes
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>nooooo you cant actually discuss things like human beings you need to stop around piss and shit everywhere about the things you hate like a chimp like i do
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>>550305671
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>>550306002
I haven't played it in years. I don't own a wii anymore. Truly Sonic might be one of the original Gary Stu's. Now it makes sense why Sonamy fans are so rabid. I finally understand.
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>>550306014
"Tails, but Girl" is CREAM.

Tails is specifically a little sibling, a "Kid" where Sonic is the older sibling and mentor. Turning Tails into a girl would not create Amy, it would create Cream.
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>>550305998
This one might need a spoiler, idk, it's not that bad but jannies might throw a tizzy
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Surge is Sonic's equal. That's why Sonurge works.
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>>550306053
Yeah
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>>550306014
>Implying you need to turn boy into a girl for them to fuck
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>Sonic binds and shapes everyone's morality to his whims
Is Sonic Nietzsche's Ubermensch?
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Have you guys considered this is why Surge is a bad concept? I don't dislike Surge but she cannot change Sonic's personality. All of her routes are destined to fail. Sympathetic characters aren't allowed to hate Sonic. Even Knuckles and Shadow have channel stories that reveal that deep down they have a burgeoning respect for Sonic. If you don't like Sonic you are a bad person. That's a consistent detail in Sonic.
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>>550306203
So that's why there's been so much Sonream
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>>550306221
Now I see why I have a hard time paying attention to Sonic. He has the same problem I find with a lot of isekai anime.
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>>550306205
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>The nail that sticks out gets hammered down
Or in this case,
"the nail that sticks out leaves the fence"
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>>550306203
Okay sure but if Cream was always by Sonic's side, and Sonic kept going to her house to crash and eating her food people would go 'oh yeah he's fucking her'.
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>>550306414
isekai is nonstop lemons. why are you comparing sonic to this genre?
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>>550306203
Cream is presented as younger than Tails though. She is a cute girl people feel the need to protect and lives with her mom, a clear guardian figure. Tails is very independant and isn't treated like a child all the time. Charmy is more like a male equivalent of Cream.
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>>550306421
Cute Kit and Surge
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>>550306254
You do if you don't want it to be gay. Also people would question Tails' obsession with Sonic more if they weren't the same sex.
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>>550306598
Cream is only two years younger than Tails.

Cream is 6. Tails is 8. They are BOTH kids. They are BOTH little siblings. Tails is specifically the "Little Brother" character incarnate, and Cream i the "Girl" version of that (the Little Sister). The difference is purely the boy/girl view that "Girls are more vulnerable and need protection, Boys are tough and should be independent".

Tails and Cream were both introduced as a player character that can do what Sonic can do, but Cream is more likely to be coddled and babied while Tails only will if it's to insult or undermine him or emasculate him.
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>>550305461
Not to be a dick but the problem with your reading on Sonic's flaws is that you're examining Sonic as a person and not his role in the story. When Sonic is lazy, rude, impatient, or callous the story doesn't punish him for it because he is always "Correct to be this way". The only time outside of western media that this actually backfired onto Sonic was Lost World which was written by westerners. At most there is a single episode of Sonic X that plays on Sonic being afraid of water but even then the official status is that game Sonic has no fear of water at all. By the end of the episode Sonic still doesn't have to learn anything and the only damage he takes is physical.
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>>550306565
Because a question that a fair bit of isekais avoid is "why is this an isekai?" Most protags barely wrestle with their new circumstances in a way that feels grounded, so Sonic is similar.

These stories aren't about Sonic, they're about everything around him. He's there to impose the moral on the story, but he's also integral to resolving a story that he just shows up for. Makes me wonder why we aren't simply in Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc shoes and Sonic isn't the side character.
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Sort of. The setup inevitably makes Surge destined to fail and be beaten by Sonic, morally and physically, but that could still work because the point would be to have Surge change and grow as a person even if she has to hate Sonic for it first.
The problem is how IDW wants to do this fakeout attempt to write Sonic as *potentially* in the wrong as they tease characters disagreeing with him over and over, but cannot ever commit to this vision; and the other issue is botching Surge's actual character arc, because she's neither a realized person nor grew to change her opinion on Sonic, she doesn't actually know what she wants.
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>>550306981
We got to be in Shadow's shoes for Shadow the Hedgehog at least
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A review from a windfag praises Sonic X for keeping true to Sonic's godlike nature in Japan while critiquing Ian Flynn as being incapable from separating his writing style from the western "Tough jock" Sonic

Timestamped
https://youtu.be/PqNm61Tw8cw?si=xVaD1X2Q7xoijMbl&t=784
He is not incorrect. That is consistent with JP Sonic. But this is the controversy between JP and the West in the first place.
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>>550306358
Correct.
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>>550307281
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>>550306981
The franchise would be a lot better if Tails was effectively the main point of view character alongside everyone else.
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>>550305461
Stealing this comparison from someone else but the best allegory for Sonic isn't Goku but Godzilla. Godzilla doesn't go on character arcs and he isn't guaranteed to be good or bad, but he is the force of nature that causes character development in the other characters.
Sonic is obviously always on the side of good, but his role is the same. The difference is the fact that he talks and sees the other characters as peers and not ants in his way. Meanwhile MANY of the other characters see THEMSELVES as the ants.
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>>550307461
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>>550306358
Binding the will of others to you does not describe the ubermensch. It's complicated to explain, but sonic is most iterations very much embodies the "camel" in "three metamorpheses" either before or on his way to striving to be the "lion". At least as far as I can tell.
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>>550305461
>Archiefag learns why windfags will spit venom in your face if you try to write Sonic as an actual person
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We're thinking about this way harder than Sonic Team ever did.
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>>550307680
End!
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Sonic being a character that intrinsically cannot have mass appeal, because different cultures, neurodivergent and neurotypical people will interpret him their own way, is technically a flaw from a business perspective. Maybe he shouldn't have been conceptualized like this.
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>>550307875
YES
I WAS HOPING FOR THAT END
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>>550307998
Remember, your headcanon is all that matters, don't let a bitch ass nigga stop you from enjoying shit
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>>550305461
>At this rate it probably will never change
in japanese culture it is considered exceptionally rude to take someone's work and recharacterize it so even though Naka already left you will see an attempt to maintain his ideals through Iizuka and then whoever takes over from him.
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Here's your threadly reminder that Yuji Naka is an idiot. An actual moron. He dumb person. He does not form thoughts the way a mature adult is supposed to.
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Blueboard anon is the best.
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>>550308368
Do you think the voice actors had to dress up like the Sonic characters they were voice acting to satisfy Yuji Naka's autism?
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>>550308445
Cigs is staring at her tits and doesn't realize the cigarette is backwards.
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>>550307875
any ship involving Amy is trash
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future!
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>>550308368
>forced VAs to say out loud Glub Glub
I think Naka straight up doesn't understand some japanese whimsies don't make sense for westeners
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>>550308654
I really don't give a fuck, it's canon because I say it is.
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>>550305461
Yuji Naka directly insulted Satam for being OOC when promoting Sonic X lol he's always been like that
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>>550308368
I think he's autistic.
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>>550308749
Nhb may I see, please?
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>>550307875
this is like the tails self insert ship but for women
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I hope this is the last thread.
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>>550308504
It's not that bad of an idea
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I remember that one interview about how someone was trying to talk to Yuji Naka about serious development business and then Naka got bored with the conversation and started talking about his expensive car collection. Yep, that's Sonic's creator.
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>>550308739
your headcanon is ooc and garbage, are you going to have another melty sonamyfag?
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>>550308943
Yuji Naka is the Wind.
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>>550308895
I guess Amy is the the most appealing for women to self-insert into
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>>550307875
I can respect how shameless the author is in her desires to be fucked by two hedgehog man
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>>550308943
Based
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>>550309072
you're so mad lmfao, they're drawings, nigga, how are you gonna cry about drawings?
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>>550309157
A male self insert is a loser nerd who has to work had to be a giga chad, and overcome all his personal limitations to reach that level.
A female self insert is just the pink version of the giga chad by default, and her arc is proving to everyone else that she's -already- all that.
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There is nothing wrong with liking the original (And only good) japanese reading of Sonic's character.
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>>550309436
there's nothing wrong with liking vastly ooc versions of the character either
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>>550307537
>but he is the force of nature that causes character development in the other characters.
i get what you're saying but that's still goku
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>>550309498
windgods, decapitate this man
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Tails: -I wish I could be- as cool as Sonic...
Amy: -I AM ALREADY- Sonic's Girlfriend!
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>>550309628
you can not, I control how powerful Sonic is based purely on my whim.
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>>550309256
says the one getting defensive, your "headcanon" is just self inserting. Amy has no personality outside of being a stereotypical clingy girl.
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shonenfags can evolve windnic
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>>550309619
Goku got somewhat smarter as he aged so alas I can't
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>>550309746
>Amy has no personality outside of being a stereotypical clingy girl.
Wrong, and you're gay
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>>550309683
Lets say this is true.

How does this effect Sonic's career as a fulltime relaxer?
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>>550309845
give me one hobby that she has that isn't cooking, clothes, or Sonic.
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I always thought this stuff was common knowledge. Windfags/JPfags will always be at odds with Archiefags/IDWfags because the latter two add characters traits and character flaws that just outright don't exist in the games. People who are extremely committed to the games will have a negative reaction to the idea that these are improvements.
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>>550308749
He did? Sounds based.
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>>550309940
Fortune Telling... also a stereotypically girly trait.
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Sonic Team be like: let's make a stereotypical girly white girl and call it a character
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QUIT LYING ON THE INTERNET AAAAAAAAA
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I think that far fewer people only like a singular specific part of the franchise than some people here seem to want to believe which is why the "us vs them" debates always feel so forced/inorganic
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>>550310174
Amy is supposed to be 'Girl-Sonic', so what's the problem?

She is the idea of Sonic translated through the lens of what you call "stereotypical girly girl".
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How autistic are you?
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>>550310348
Give you a chance to stab me again?

What good would it do besides make you wealthier and me more anxious
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>>550310273
It's kind of basic and boring
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>>550310491
Not really.

Not unless you either find Sonic boring too, or specifically hate girls.
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>>550310348
Enough to post here.
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>>550310486
I'm just curious, it's not that deep bro
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>>550310573
I prefer girl characters who have more going on in their lives than showing how girly they are
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>>550310191
Yeah, there's more everythingfag sentiment in the fandom than purist and most level-headed people can enjoy what the franchise offers for different reasons.
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>>550310635
we love you resident fiona poster
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>>550310647
Extremely. So what?
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>>550310191
Maybe right now but around 2020-2021 there was an insane shit infighting between classicfags, modernfags and adventurefags trying to rise up from the modern distinction
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>>550310689
Everythingfags are excessively rare. It's mostly just Archiefags who want mobius back and stuff like that.
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>>550310671
Is that true, or do you like Blaze?
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>>550311009
Tailsbros....
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>>550311051
I'm kind of indifferent towards Blaze
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Good times
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>>550306889
>>550307537
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>>550308749
https://voca.ro/123Cfus3ia01
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>>550311009
I wouldn't have guessed that's where you were going with it, but kudos on the process
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>>550310724
I am only one of many.
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>>550311225
A friend asked me to give her one and I owed him
I'd normally draw her straight
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>>550311346
Did he specifically ask her to fuck Tails in the ass or did you add that yourself?
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>>550311219
JP purist =/= Japanese fans. There are almost no japanese Sonic fans and the few that exist are NOT purists. Sonic's western personality might be completely alien to them but they don't have the same burning hatred for every western concept. All JP purists are westerners.
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>>550311219
Sonic wasn't just made by Yuji Naka. He was co-created by Yuji Naka and Naoto Ohshima. It's Ohshima who "Created" Sonic himself, as the artist who designed him and all that.

The dichotomy between their different visions of Sonic is best represented by Sonic 2 (Naka) and Sonic CD (Ohshima).
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>>550311009
no.
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>>550311505
What did Yasuhara do?
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>>550311469
That came to me naturally
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>>550311639
Gameplay/Level Design.

Ohshima designed the characters, Naka made the high-speed engine, and Yasuhara made the level design.
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>>550311489
Why is Rouge a pedophile when everyone else is fairly normal?
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>>550311687
based
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>>550311806 (me)
It could be said that Ohshima made Sonic himself, Naka gave him his speed, and Yasuhara made his world.
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if it isn't jpnic it will die eventually so why even get invested? ten years from now moviefags will be getting insulted by 3 generations of jpfags for still clinging to an EVIL OOC NOT CANON sonic.
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I'll do pretty much anything to win. I don't care how it happens or who I lose in the process. Except (you) even though it's none of my business.
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>>550311919
japan
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>>550311687
Souka
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>>550311989
why do anything at all?
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>>550311489
i'm glad that japan and america find clear common ground here
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>>550311639
>>550311806
Yasuhara also came up with a lot of the lore.
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>>550311989
Movienic may die, but he make some banger money while JPnic makes pennies
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>>550312049
As in Japan sees Rouge like that or that since the artist was Japanese he had to include /ss/ somewhere and Rouge just happened to be the one used to express it?
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I like to think of Sonic & Eggman as Cool-Mickey and Evil-Disney, but if that were true, then who is Sonic's "Walt Disney"?

Between Yuji Naka, Naoto Ohshima and Hirokazu Yasuhara, who is Sonic's true "Walt Disney"? Who is the EGGMAN of Sonic Team?
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>there are people who don't know that Sonic calling himself cool in Sa2 was added by the american dub
I'm too autistic, i thought everybody knew this one.
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/sthg/ is finally dead.
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>900 posts in
>no new thread
so this is it huh?
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>>550312254
got no idea if japan sees rouge like that so lets go with the latter
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>>550312376
Fucking finally
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>>550312376
I'm not dom enough to make a new thread
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>>550312376
>>550312418
We are severing our last worldy attachment binding us from Nirvana.
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Finally. It's over.
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>>550312418
As it should be.
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>>550312421
fair enough
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>>550312365
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Who is more reactive
>Westfag learning that Sonic was always supposed to be a force of nature who sees himself as a guy and not a cocky teen with attitude
>JPfag learning that Sonic in the comics has a wide range of emotions and flaws and various character arcs
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>>550312706
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>>550312706
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>>550311489
>There are almost no japanese Sonic fans
I feel this is a dumb thing to say when it's that western Sonic fans vastly outnumber japanese Sonic fans.
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