7.40 edition>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2previous: >>550256496
>Chen nerfsfuck you niggers only like 10 people actually play him
>>550347757can you cool your jets
>>550347791why nerf a hero nobody plays that is already dogshit in pubs?
>>550347876stop asking questions
>ice frog>frog herofrog game
>>550347757Even weirder is zero OD changes. It’s not like he was being picked.Give me back essence aura already god dammit
>>550347672Anons - it's weird, - I saw THESE FROGS BEFORE THE UPDATELike the frog man's little frogs were following me -wtf was that?
>>550348047>ODFuck you nigger.t. ember picker
>>550348047he got a bunch of indirect buffs
>Already had 2 niggas trying Treant pos 1
Is Slark saved?
>>550348117it's called an update teaser
>>550348275and we still get them because valve cares
Buff Hoodwink
>>550347757>NOOO WHY CANT I JUST LEARN A HERO NOBODY PLAYS AND GET FREE WINS AND INFLATE MY MMR??? I SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR PLAYING THIS HERO IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE JFIOAJGIKGJDKLGJADKLGJkill yourself nigger
is largo a groyper?
>>550348349lol get hit with the nerf bat insteadspam this dumb shit every tread only to get btfo
>>550348349Huff Boodwink
is every new hero going to be some furry dev's oc now
>Licks CMs feetLargo is one of us
>>550348574the alternative is just some boring human
>>550348414How is nerfing an already shit hero that is hard to play and execute incentivizing me to play it?
>>550348730wouldn't be a problem if artstyle was uniform and model scale wasn't all fucked up
Wow cool hero design Dota 2
>>550348574>zero of the last 5 heroes release have fur
i can't even tell how bad frogman actually is because patch reinstallers are the biggest retards alive
>>550348797Primal has a fur set
>>550348776the world doesn't revolve around you, buddy
>>550348797>actually ;) they're called... scalies ;)sorry I think you misunderstood somethingwhen I say "furry" I'm being courteouswhat I actually mean is "subhuman faggot freak"
why nerfs
>>550348906this retard>>550348349
>>550348906why hoodwink japanese
>>550348902No one cares Omniknight
>>550348776>e-erm he takes skill so he should get to be OPFuck off, this was a cope argument back when injoker was free MMR and it's a cope argument now.
>>550348884Feels like you have a subjective hatred of the hero, not worth replying in good faith anymore.
How bad are the Kez nerfs? I haven't suffered a lot from them but I'm also complete ass still.
Sillybear offlane is back. AdmiralBulldog lives on
>>550349026I accept your concession
why does pango even still exists like goddamn just rework him
>>550347672https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNU5UmIsw38
when can we finally acknowledge that eliminating the battle pass and focusing resources on developing meaningful gameplay changes is working
>>550349857not yetthis year would have been okay if they had one more update in the middle
>>550349914it will never be enough for you then
>>550349857These patches are even worse than when the BP was so bad that only whales were buying it.
>>550349953thats rightthey promised more heroes per year and then started releasing less heroes per year
>>550349980>These patches are even worseelaborate on this
>>550350014>they promised more heroes per yearwhen did they do that?
>>550349857>we don't know what to do with these heroes so we are gonna make random changes from patch to patch
went as a primal beast and that fucking largo cucked me out of my Q. SEVERAL TIMES.
>>550349857There were more meaningful gameplay changes during battlepass, largest droughts started happening after they stopped
>>550350434>There were more meaningful gameplay changes during battlepasslike what?
>>550350503there were. you can accept that or not
>>550350430This nigga got LICK'D
>>550350545not a single example tho?
Did they really kill Diffusal Blade working on illusions or was that just a shitpost on /v/? I don't play anymore I just couldn't believe core original mechanics would be trampled like that
>>550350753They did
>>550350051Are you blind? This one wasn't even finished, they just straight up removed the facets from certain heroes. Pango is now literally useless, Brew and LD are incoherent messes.
>>550350858yea they should have been removed from captains mode
>>550350815Brutal
i hate this pixar shit game
>>550351325Define pixar
retard here, is MK buffed or not?
>>550349098How???He was supposed to be dead, not alive.Rat is dead, split is dead hell never hurt the pro scene again!!!
>no huskar nerfDumbass hero should be removed
>>550351541Huskar's only true counter is your mind. Become one with the game.
>PL no longer shackled by diffusal blade>his illusions do assloads of damage mid/lateprepare yourselves dotards
>>550351703>Gets Mega'd before coming online I'm prepared
terrybros... we got monkeypawed...>innate no longer has damage penalty>in exchage conjure image completely gutted>also diffusal and vision nerfs lol
>>550352392you will not farm or use the map cleverlyyou will brawl
>>550352740>brool>when nearby illusion damage output got nerfed (75% -> 56%)mmhm
>>550348776But he is OP in actual adult dota instead of toddler retard dota AKA trenching AKA Ladder?
>>550352816it got nerfed across the board
>>550350430>>550350568This is the tastes OF A BUFFER!
>dumb rhythm animation looks like a sperm entering an eggI can already see the fat bastard porn with this hero already
>they fucking buffed kezlmaoooooo
Treant offlane patch
>>550353635Explain now
so why the fuck is dota a rhythm game now?
>>550353507pretty sure its a tadpole anon
>>550353768he can build attackspeed and rape your asshole in 2 seconds instead of being useless outside of his katana ult and the cheese sai ult -> katana q faggotry
>>550351703I'm not even sure he does more damage. Sure he has more agility gain per level, but his illusions only do a fraction of that extra agility as damage anyway.>ShackledPeople bought it because it was better than everything else. Removing diffusal as an option doesn't suddenly make other items better, nor any illusion hero that bought diffusal before.
imagine still playing dota 2 in current month and yearespecially after this excuse of a patch
imagine posting in generals on 4chan of games you don't even play in current month and year
>Lots of unpicked/garbage heroes >Lots of unpicked/garbage items>No Unique gameplay like split pushing/Level 1 Rosh /4 protect 1/ Tri lanes/ Jungle heroes/illusion heroes dead/Global hero strategy/Early push strategy>Instead autistic "OBJECTIVES" is emphasized>Retarded devs killing everything unique and cool about Dota>No Cool shit/gameplay/heros/items addedWhy not just delete the dead heroes(+60%) and items from the game if u dont want to buff them?Same fucking shit stale meta for years.Atleast e-blade(over tuned) is back i guess
Do I just auramax on Largo and blast my ballards?
This broodmother buffs are absurd plap plap plap plap
>>550354512>>No Unique gameplay like split pushing/Level 1 Rosh /4 protect 1/ Tri lanes/ Jungle heroes/illusion heroes dead/Global hero strategy/Early push strategygood
>>550354512They did revert oracles disarm affecting allies though
is it time to admit there is too many mechanics to balance and just roll back to 6.88?
>>550353507porn brainrotten brown subhuman
>>550354485I just had to once I realized some heroes lost their facets, there were no new items and the game got worse (as if it was possible).
I like the frog. I just wish when you used lick it would make a Yoshi noise.
phoenix is such a fucking cancernigger hero it's unreal
>>550354610That skin looks mad retarded
the list of items that work with frog shard:>urn, vessel 2 heals for 1 charge>holy locket 2 heals for 1 use>give a teammate free linken, and a second teammate a linken with second still having 5s uptime, sadly cannot target self for utility>lotus orb>glimmer cape>eblade>solar crest, frog only gets the barrier as if self cast>pollywog charmThe following don't work:>euls or ww>force staff>psychic headband
Amazing change you retarded niggers, hero is literally unplayable now.
>>550355565>didn't check DisperserAre you even a real dotard?
>>550356035good. fuck invi niggas
so who won
EXPLAIN THE LONE DRUID CHANGESIT JUST SOUNDS LIKE 200+ BUFFS AND ZERO DOWNSIDES HOLY SHIT
Largo (me) tonguing loli pugna persona
naga sisters what do we build now
>wake up>patch
>>550356548yeah you and your bear can instant root now lol or sumshi
where is that saudi blood money russian tournament being streamed? bulldog is playing there, did he pick the new lone druid?
>>550356962Unfortunately he cucked out because Russia bad. Its only Russian and Chinese teams now
The patch is fucking tiny tho? Half the heroes almost untouched, half facets just removed, and some weird changes for a few heroes, that's it.Dotards are so easy to get fooled
good morning dotards
>>550356548>build aghs on main bear>attack speed on small bear>now perma root through bikibiSasuga valve
Pepe skin when?
yeah fuck this game
>>550356681We dont.Naga is not a Hero
>only 8 teams out of 24 make the playoffsWhy not have some LB starters
Why is it that these niggers in turbo just pick the same 10 heroes on rotation? I want to pick up some heroes I never play and make some progress with the MH event but every fucking time the game is full of morons playing Pudge, Ogre, Sniper, Invoker and the likes. Why tf does this game mode even exist if it's so fucking ass?
>rhythm hero Campo Santo is bankrupt of ideas
hehe
>>550354512Also no balance in facets whatsoever ever since they were add.Only 1 is always picked for that hero
>>550357674love this patch
Who's the next hero after reddit frog?
>>550358172No idea man why are you asking me?
>>550357996The facet system could be super cool but at the moment it's just [Strong facet] or [Meme build facet that fucking sucks]
>>550358206I thought icefrog browsed /d2g/
>>550358285I'm actually firereptile
>>550357996>axe>lc>wd>lich>necro>jugg>pudge>ursaall have options
>>550357869>Campo SantoGot fired 2 years ago
>>550352392They want terry to just be a tower in fightsReally I'm surprised they didn't just remove helm from the game at this point
>cool fat frog>cool design>SOUNDS LIKE A FAGGOTWouldve been cooler if he sounded more gritty and had a froggy voice.
>>550356548>ld needed RNG to perma root>now it's just guaranteed
New Riki is pretty good, hero can actually farm now(WOW!) without aghs.
>>550358410See Tahm Kench from LoL for how a talking frog should sound
>>550358553Yeah a voice deep like that wouldve been perfect though a bit more jolly. they shouldve made him croak too
>>550356095I did, it works (self cast propagates to ally), forgot to put it in
>frog hero ult is lucio from overwatch
>>550358964No one played overgay though
>>550357674di(lat)e tranny
why does the new hero sound like some limp wristed cuck from california putting on an accent
>>550358826Yeah obviously a bit more cheerful but Largo just sounds like a faggy prepubescent australian dude.
>>550355345>No new itemsDid you miss all the new neutral items, you retard?
I wanted RANGO
WHERE'S MY NEGROBOOOOOOOK
What was the last non-neutral item added to the game? Revenant's Brooch?
>>550348349Literally no reason to nerf her yet she got nerfed anyway.Why?
>>550357038What are you talking about he's literaly posting the games on his channel?
so they just casually raped the solo rosh heroes like that?
What's the consensus on Largo? OP?
>>550357038idgi, why is this tournament bad but the rest of the tournaments sponsored by Russian betting sites ok?
RIP support gyro... you will be missed
>>5503593797.38:Orb of Frost7.35:Tiara of SelemeneKhandaParasma7.33:Blood GrenadeDiademCornucopiaPaviseDisperserHarpoonPhylactery
what drugs did they take when they made largo's ult
>>550360178The drugs that give you soul
>>550360148I forgot about Khanda/Phylactery. Pretty much never see them.
>>550352392>TB gutted>TA guttedmeanwhile all the nigger support heroes everyone loves playing against are left unscathed
>>550360178lsd
Why do some heroes just not have any facets? All of these heroes are just objectively worse than the heroes that do have them.
>>550360284They are kinda common in low ranks because of Sniper.
i reached lvl 27 as largo and i could barely sustain the mana needs, didn't even get aghs
>>550360339Supports got gutted this patch as a whole, despite last patch being a carry patch where supports didn't matter.
if i see 1 more frog on my team ill fucking lose itfucking useless sack of shit
>>550360604He's OP though
>>550360386if they did this kind of shit in the past then they removed them from captains mode
Each song of Largo should have a different rhythm you have to play.
>a frog who plays guitar
>>550356681For core it's the same as before: orchid/bloodthorn + manta
dont have a choice methinks
>>550361250is treant that good now
>>550361240>core nagaGrief pick, reported
>>550360669We need ranked captains mode back.Immortal should be just ranked captains mode, btw.
the battle report really puts things in perspective. 4 months of grinding just to tally up +250mmr
>nerf shit heroes>buff reddit heroes>make balance changes based on valve janny 1k turbo pub experiencesbravo dotards
>>550360386just wait until the 2027 patch. its a free game. you kept pestering them for a new patch they had to rush it
quarryGODS... we're back
>>550362314Damn, mother comes !
never laughed so hard
>>550362386Lick them into mines?
>>550362386idgi
>>550362314>camposanto trannies try to rebalance boomer dota herobravo osfraud
>>550362314>kotl in every game>tier4s buffed with +24 armorpushing highground is sure going to be fun
why does the frog sound like that
>>550362678That's how frogs sound dotard
>>550362314>brood +5%i'm not playing this patch
>>550362386https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQrjbRz3y7A
>>550362314>Spectre>no more free in-and-out global kills >-6%oof
>>550362314why is spectre in the gutter? she now has 2 ultis
>>550362314>brood is bullshit againi'm out
>>550362779Me on the right
>undying ypca and jugg not put into the trashcan im not reinstalling
>game is has LITTERALLY devolved into rare pepe posting
>>550363115Undying was already trashcan though.
>half of heroes dont have facetsbravo
Some heroes don't have facets which makes them automatically dogshit while huskar still has his op facet.
>>550361380Its to avoid him being on my team
*picks rubick*im such a quirk chungs OwO :3 xxxx*steals your best spells with a script*yoink xDD
>>550363354more like*clicks you with dagon and phylactery from fountain and does nothing for rest of the game*
>>550363354i used to do this all the time
>>550362314>Muh LD got le buffed>-10% wrKek todlja
why did they make all australians furrys
>>550362905>>550362926Her desolate is now shit in the early game so you do fuck all damage regardless your ability to escape or having haunt. You're only real option is the old radiance build but it takes too long to come online.
just tried aghs treant
>>550363293>only way to deal with huskar is rush a vessel>he gets a free dispel from the facetwhat were they thinking?
>>550364049Your moonshard dono?Absolute fucking retardation they nuked treant's only good thing (free wards) for no reason ngl.
>radiance burn dont gives opponent miss chanceREDDITFROG THAT WAS THE POINT OF RADIANCE THAT YOU SHINE SO BRIGHT PEOPLE CANT LOOK AT YOU AHHH
>>550364180he still has his free wards and cheaper toothey nuked his healing and armor tho
>>550364292They aren't permanent and can't be used to "farm" the enemy jungle or use a mid/good CC ult.Them being timed is a huge nerf, even if now they come up more often.
So that bald brit fag is obviously on valve's payroll
>>550364180spamming ult every min is nice but the rest is just retarded because he's still a do nothing hero
>>550364828Now he is a do nothing here who can't even ward the entire map for 4200g kekSay it with me >Melee supportKek-w!
>>550364630Yes retard? He's been doing the patch stream thing for years
>>550360386Its just retarded balance in the game rn.No idea what the fuck in going on with icefrog/valve in the past couple of yearsNo.There are heroes with no facet that are better than heroes with facet.
>>550365043I mean he's tried denying it several times
He's right. Valve fucking cooked
>>550365569Wholesome chungus
>>550365569i hope thats a girl
>>550360386>All of these heroes are just objectively worse than the heroes that do have them.That is objectively incorrect.
>>550365569go back
largo is 40% wr across all bracket. have people just not figured him out yet or is he just plain shit
>>550366103this happens every single time a new hero is released
>>550366173except monkey kang
>>550366103People are just bad, the hero is OP
>>550365569>Getting an urge to shoot clothesline tvidotto
>>550366103melee supports suck
>>550366103It's only been like 2 hours since he came out. Who fucking cares about winrate stats right now?
>>550365810Give me an example
>>550330740bro casually forgot the 100% armour reduction passive pango had
i'm spamming games across all my accounts and throwing super fucking hard with Frogo. I will FORCE a hotfix buff for him then spam his ass until he gets nerfed. Then I'll order a bunch of pizza hut (not tipping, lol) and blow up my home with myself inside.
>Lost an hour long game where an Invoker 1/9d because we couldn't lock him down through a LinkensHeartbreaking, we should've ended faster but it still stings.
>>550364169cauterise is garbage, if you want a dispel buy lotus orb, gives him armour too
>>550363232starting to think they will either be gradually reduced or removed altogether, universal is heading the same way
>>550366634ive become so fat off doordash my hand is too fat to hold my mouse and i feel much more retarded and weak than i used to be LOL
>>550347672I like Largo's design but it's so weird that his disciples are this smallIt's like he's sending children to fight for him
I hate how many subhuman redditors who dont play the game and DIDNT EVEN READ THE FUCKING PATCH NOTES there are itt>they le removed their facets so they are worse of now xDDDDLD got the healing facet built into his kit, Slark got his stacks on pounce built in, brew got both of his facets built in, not sure about clinkz but he got a rework/vg/ is a reddit-tier shithole filled to the brim with esport obsessed dysgenic fat freaks
>>550366924https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Surinam_toad
>>550366975uh oh thread bully woke up in a bad mood!
>>550366975valve removed things from skills and put them into facetsnow they've done the opposite and not put anything back into facets
>>550366924It's fine. One of the disciples says he's 46 in the comic. They're just small.
>>550366924My belly is this big
>first match is having the redditfish as supp 5 and spectre carry against cheese last pick husknarreuthanize me
>>5503661034v5 for le epic nothingburger + bazillion dmg buff, I would prefer any support with actual stun that deals dmg without epic setup
>>550367449>euthanize mehuskar will do it in about 20-25 minutes
I'm guessing patch was on Monday because Christmas sales will start tonight
>>550366378Compare phantom lancer to monkey king, clockwork, beastmaster... and many other heroes with facets. Then there's heroes like earth spirit that lost all his facets and his winrate has improved while brewmaster now gets both of his previous facets for free yet and has a worse winrate. Labeling something a 'facet' or 'innate' or 'ability passive' is completely irrelevant and all that matters is the hero's overall strength.
>>550366103he's like a win more hero
Did they fix EUW servers yet?
I just had a dude in my game with over 5k wins and 2 mvps. Is there a way to spoof the profile things? No way that's real even though he did play like ass.
>>550366924Brood, weaver and arguably engima already do that.
>>550368080It's weird that Weaver gives birth to babies despite being male.
>>550368170He's MtF
>>550368170Could be worse, he could be giving birth to adults like Meepo despite being a male.
>>550368281>hefuck off bigot
>>550368472>>550368291>>550368281you fags will never be zeus lord of olympus
>>550364049Yeah I'm not sold on it at all. Even if I played pos 3 tree how the fuck am I getting the farm for an aghs AND damage items ontop of it?I hate losing the plant sapling too on leech seed and I hate how useless living armor is for slowing pushes too. Eyes on shard for the cost of 5 min life time is better, but feels worse. Those few long games you got into with old tree where you could cover the map with eyes was really fun even if new eyes will be useable in more games.Natures guise I need more time with, it's kind of annoying but having access to it for the first 15 mins is pretty huge. Maybe ill come around on that.t. grandmaster treant protector player
>>550348574you do realize that even pre reborn it was always like this?
Why do treads have a visual effect now
>>550368080>soulless bug throwing maggots>soulless bug throwing spiders>soulless eldritch creature copying itself on another living being>funny frog music dude throwing his own child disciples at people for some reason>>550367136why are they other frogs tall then? is he only hiring manlets?also wtf is this new captcha
>>550368291Meepo mpreg theory is fake, meepo just reproduces via mitosis.>>550368281FtM actually, this is why Zeus doesn't hit on HIM because Zeus isn't a FAGGOT.
>>550366103His kit doesnt have much synergy with itself
Got timed out for getting reported too much after doing 11k damage to buildings because i would rather go hit tower instead of brooling gg
>le winrateI'm just going to enjoy a cool new hero
>>550369553Lycan picker san...
>>550369420Who said anything about impregnation?
I'm in a gambling sort of mood. Link me some Dota related porn so long as it isn't gay (futa is fucking gay) and not scat. I'll goon to it or something I guess.
>>550367923Phantom Lancer has been shit for a year and now that he gets buffed you think he is good? Give me a break. Earth spirit is not good in general, he is good in the right hands just like invoker. I don't know what your point with brewmaster was supposed to be. Yeah, a bad hero is bad.
>>550368472the m is for male
>>550370018>you think he is goodHe has a much higher winrate than many heroes with facets.>Earth spirit is not good in generalHe's doing better now than before when he had 3 facets.> I don't know what your point with brewmasterThen read my post again, I spelled it out for you with the last sentence and no amount of "b-but that doesn't count!" changes the point: Whether an ability is separated out as a 'facet' or just incorporated in a passive/innate doesn't fucking matter.
Leaguechads are laughing at us...
>>550370961a fucking frog....
redditsaw seems op
>>550370585Alright. If you want to be low iq and believe that winrate makes a hero good, you go ahead and do that.
what am i supposed to do when the other support on my team has the wards on autobuy and doesnt put them down
>>550371467Ask him to give some to you. He won't, but it will show initiative and when it's time to pick a scapegoat for the loss your team will be more likely to side with you against him.
Reminder that Clock got 3 facets and one of them is picked over 99% of the times
You're right, I should rely on feels and whether something is labeled a "facet" or "innate/passive" instead.
ever game I've seen of largo he is feeding
>>550360446So, build bloodstone on him?
>Largo was picked by both teams!!>Largo is now banned!>Largo isn't actually bannedI forgot ban protection for new heroes was a thing. I guess there's no point putting him on my banlist then? Or do banlist bans go through?
>>550366975>not sure about clinkz but he got a reworkMORE CLINKZ REWORKSLETS ADD MORE LEAGUE MECHANICSPERCENTAGE ARMOR SHRED>should we do:>20% of total attack damage is treated as pure damage>or:>PERCENTILE ARMOR SHRED BABY BETTER SPIN UP THAT CALCULATOR YOU FUCKING NONCE HYUK HYUK HYUKfuck riot, fuck ex-riot employees, fuck the dota dev team, I hope they all die alone and penniless in india
I can't stop eating chainmail...
>rewarded for being a good goyThank you Lord Gaben.
>>550366975What did clinkz get? How did his facets get built in? You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>550372382yeah you can't stop losing
>>550372237I've switched to Dota from League about a year ago, tft (league autochess) got my attention and I've decided to try it out 2 or 3 days ago when the Dota Eu servers were shitting the bed. I've been playing non-stop, it's fantastic. No wonder League has been getting worse and worse all this time when they have teams working on sloprant, tft, that card game and the meme fighter shit
>>550372727do they not teach you how to read in india?
>>550372997They removed his facets and gave him nothing in return. They even replaced his W with an objectively worse ability.
>>550373135re-read that post very slowly, use google translate to whatever subhuman language you use and then get back to me. Actually scrap that, once you realize you are an illiterate retard just stop posting altogether
>>550373261What post? Link me to the post you are referring to. I'm genuinely curious.
frog feels like grim where he's fucking trash if you don't have a specific combo in mind
>>550373416have your last (You), ranjesh
>>550373476Oh, you can't link me to the post I'm supposed to "re-read". That's embarrassing.
>>550373438I ran the frog with an offlane ogre magiLearning curve lvl 2 ignite and lvl 2 + croak of genius is pretty brutal in lane
>diffusal nuked>Reddit whines that the already dosghsit PL has been nerfed in addition to that>4chan circlejerks that the already dogshit PL has been nerfed again>queue up>PL>queue again>PL againniggers
>>550373903idk how upping his damage and not forcing him to build diffu 1st item is a nerfsounds weird to me
>>550373903outside of being White, that guy looks better than the vast majority of the >people posting in this thread
if you play ranked do you end up playing support a good amount of the time for tokens? i like some support heroes but i dont wanna queue support so it'd be nice to be forced to play them
>>550369461That’s a good thing, soulful dota design where items fill in the missing synergies.
>0 mastery redditfrog as my pos5i love it
I played my first game of dota 2 and did the new player mode and the first thing everyone did was go to the bottom right and have a teamfight then went back to their lane. Is there a reason for this? Is there an objective there or something or is it just noob stuff?
>>550374075Ancient here but I feel like I get offlane/midlane more often than support on my token hunting
>tfw ywn play KOTL or WW because support is boring
>>550372875The card game is dead, anon. They fucked up the balance and tried to focus on some roguelike solo mode that made them zero dollars.
>>550374989I know it's "dead" as in, it has barely any players but there are still people working on it. Just checked and it got an update 2 weeks ago
>>550374521>Kotol>Supportbro is still stuck in 2014.
>all loses since the patchNICE EPICI LIKE IT I LOVE HAVING DADGAMERS IN MY TEAM
>>550376103What's wrong with dads?
>>550374059He's a kiddy diddler tho
>>550375435You play kotl mid or what?
played a few games after a 2 weeks hiatus and it feels like a have to relearn everything again
>>550376832kotol hasnt been a support for years.He is 100% a mid hero.
>>550376832And rush dagon!!
yep old spectre seems to be back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRyVBv8T2s4
How'd you build treant 3?
when did dota go from the self aware edgy game to the quirk chungus game
>>550374382If it was just against bots, probably just a combination of the bots walking up to the T1 towers at the end automatically (outdated btw, don't do it), and then seeing each other and thinking it's best to have a fight to chase kills.If it was people, then they were cluelessly running into each other and brawling I guess. Cute.
>>550377086I remember the 1st world community being way more toxic and edgy ten years ago youre righti think people matured or left
>>550377086always destined with this man at the helm
>>550377086edgy is illegal now
Largo ult has 3 tone variant or strings but his in model guitar only has two FUCKING FIX IT VALVE RETARDS LETS GO
PSG here. >They didn't have the balls for my demon imp bard that disables items randomlyKusoge. I like the rhythm feature however.
>>550376103i'm getting people that somehow don't realize what a support is and can't operate a mouse and keyboard after playing since launch
>>550373903Where'd you get this picture of me?
>Havent played dota 2 in like 2 years so I am pretty rusty, use the in game community guide feature while I'm catching up>the only ones up to date or have been updated at all in last 1 year are in RussianDotards?
>>550378946Game is basically 100% dead in the west. D2g drops off catalog without pity bumps
so when are you fucking off?
>>550378786Q is top string, W is bottom string and E is both strings
>>550379465meanwhile
>>550378946the rest of Evropa has been completely culturally, intellectually and even physically (rising obesity rates) pacified by the judeo-globalist elites and their useful idiots. If you want to play with nu-whites play league, fortnite or the current fotm goyslop.
>>550379782You are retarded
thread bully leave!
>>550373903>>550374001They also nerfed the Radiance and Shiva's Guard damage to illusions. PL is going to be more cancer than before.
>>550379465Have the thread already archived before hitting 750 posts?
>>550380160you have me mistaken for someone else
>>550380160thread bully is having a manic episode!
>>550380160Gooning gatcha tranny cracker spotted!
patch week is unplayable
>>550379650Then how come you can press two buttons at the same time with the Aghanim upgrade? CHECKMATE, ATHEIST!
All this talk about facets made me realize they're bullshit 99.999% of the time. There's always one facet you pick, and the other (or two others) is absolute trash. The same applies to talents too. Somehow after how many years Volvo STILL can't give two compelling choices. Then you have stuff like Marci where the only good facet gets deleted.
>>550381250System should have never been implemented, it's a pretend feature
>>550381250>actual dota players bitch about facet and other frivolous addition that do nothing but shit up the game for years>reddit billion dollar company defense force always says "accept change"/"git gud"/"skill issue">volvo finally fesses up to not knowing what the fuck they're doing>"at last the scales have shed from my eyes, and I can now see mount tai"I fucking hate all you goddamn pieces of shit
just randomed clinkz and he back
>>550380714>>550380605I'm PSG not thread bully. Thread bully is afraid of me because my esoteric domination style can't be bullied. I'll fart on him like I did in Rain (2x btw)
>>550381350>>550381515I'd say just scrap them entirely. The same applies to the innate abilities where all they did was take a regular skill (Pudge's STR gain) and call it a day. Even worse are how imbalanced facets are.>Lifestealer can pick between 1s more rage (wow) and 1% more damage (WOW)>Viper could completely change his entire hero with VIPER, BECOME UNIVERSAL MY DUDE
>>550380714I mean both of you are right because the general is going to move to vm as soon as a new active mmo or gacha one gets created.
>>550382310feel free to leave
>>550378786https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Vz-xEmjok&t=1749shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Vz-xEmjok&t=2247s
>>550382765I mean I am only here because of the terrible patch. So in a way I am doing you a favour but whatever.
insane mental gymnastics
>>550381515I actually like the facets personally. Playing ability draft and using my encyclopedic knowledge of Dota to stomp hero puddle spammers is too fun
What if facet for frog will be 3 completely different buffs in ultimate? :) or perhaps... DEBUFFS?
lone druid is stronk
>>550385216you're not gonna play shit in the middle of the enemy team
this update sucks, seriously.200 days for this?
>clinkz reworked again Just delete himself already
Bros I have the answer
>>550382276Most new features are just gimmicks for the sake of gimmicks, they somehow manage to needlessly complicate things while making gameplay shallower overall. Kez is more of a League hero than half of League's actual roster.The devs are luckier than they even realize, they will never get serious pushback for their nonsensical changes because the only feedback they listen to (Reddit) is a hug box.
Largo porn check? We're almost 24 hours out and I still haven't seen any. I'm trying to whack my willy OK?
>>550386272I feel like ive been waiting like 8 years for clinkz to be stable for me to pick him up.I like the skeleton archer army angle but I know if I learn him hell get blended next patch anyway
Largo sounds like some furry fetish name like he wouldn't feel put of place in tribal hunter or what was that furry expansion game called
>>550386272Clinkz has always been a bit wonky, his original kit is basically what would happen if you let 1k players design a hero.
>Dota update>Its just Sona from leagueLOL. at least she had big tits.
>>550384993facets, as a concept: great, excellent, gives a potential counterpick potential after the drafting phasefacets, as implemented: frivolous, non-consequential, because valve are creatively bankrupt and are pulling ideas from league
new-ish player here. Is it still possible for me to get the "Praise the Moon of Mene" voice line? It's really fucking annoying and I want to spam it.
>>550381242Largo plays a note with his hand and the other with his tongue
>>550388785go back to league
>>550389354but I came to this game from LOAP.
>>550388785Technically possible, but probably unlikely because of how rare they are now. There are two possible autograph items with the voice line listed in the market for $10+ but you wouldn't know if they are high enough level to give you the voice line so you are gambling that they are the correct one and not a fake that's re-listed by somebody who lost the gamble. It was a TI voice line so chances are, they are never coming back unless Valve decides that to do reruns.
>code name: Bard Frog>actual hero we got: A Bard Frogis Valve now too lazy for codenames?
>mfw new heart on timbershit's so dumb
>>550387498>his original kit is basically what would happen if you let 1k players design a hero....but he also had flaws
UNDERGROUND GLITCH HERE BOYS:IF YOU HAVE UNLOCKED PREVIOUS VOICELINES WITH DOTA PLUS, YOU CAN STILL USE THEM WITHOUT DOTAPLUS. IT SHOWS THEY ARE LOCKED
>>550391839That would require me to buy dota+ even once
this patch is so SHIEEET you guys
I have played the reddit frog hero in mid. He is surprisingly pretty good as a mid laner.
largo on your time is an instant loss
>>550391839
>>550392939BRO IT SHOWS THEM LOCKED
>>550362437mana cost reduction + 40% extra dmgspell amplick into minesseems really good
>>550347672This new hero seems like the worst hero on release on Dota 2 history. I mean, the concepts are cool, but the hero just sucks.His Q can be good but is lineup dependantHis W needs setup from teammates otherwise it's the most underwhelming area skill in the gameHis E and R are jokesAdd the fact that it's a new hero no one has a clue how to play, and having him on your team is a huge liability and almost insta-loss
What does this mean? They removed Eternal Empowerment and replaced it with a new facet that just gives -5 seconds cooldown on RP?
here's your lergo build bro:KHANDAOCTARINEE-BLADEWHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT
>>550393413Ult W speeds up creep speed.Q combos into regular WYou use E on yourself to lower the ult mana costAlso his aghanim is amazing.
>>550385523It depends.Not that Anon, but I've played against him once so far. The big AoE stun thing is fucking annoying and reminds me of Heroes of the Storm. Somebody mentioned Lucio but I think the better comparison is E.T.C. where he has a Black Hole-like equivalent ult centered around him but bard frog can fire it out as initiation or for zoning in the middle of the fight. The stun circle is kinda small but without BKB, he can dance all he wants inside or at the edge of it and nobody will be able to stop him for several seconds so it'd be a good teamfight combo. You'd have to try to counterpick him with shit like VS or Warlock or something to definitely stop him or else he'll just get BKB midgame and do whatever he wants. And when that happens, you will probably be forced to buy Euls and Euls yourself just to avoid the stun circle.Also I think the combo to learn would be tongue lash -> stun circle -> ult. The game I played, the frog player didn't know how to do anything so he'd throw out the circle, then try to walk up to tongue lash me but I'm already out of range so he couldn't do shit. I imagine if he learned to do it properly he'd be way more annoying/lethal. The real question is whether it's worth picking him over somebody else with a good teamfight ult though. You have to use two spells + your ult just to have one initiation, and I'm not sure it's really worth a whole hero slot.
sex with hoodwink
>>550393479When would you ever take -5 seconds cooldown on RP instead of double damage for your Q?
>20/0 enemy mid sniper at 18 minswhat do you do realistically
>>550394520report your team i guess
>>550394482>>550393479why cant you niggers just launch the game and check it yourselves? it's obviously some sort of a bug/error, there would be "new" by this facet otherwise
>played 500 games at 53% winrate during 7.39>+30 net wins over a year>only +700 MMR, give or takeAt least it's positive...
>>550394106this
hmm private negative win rate profile picks huskar with no dota+ or cosmetics and plays like hes 15k mmrseems legitgood job valve!
>lose game>one of team was feeding their face off all game has 20 deaths>end game screen>all four in party other than meI can just feel the reports coming in as they attempt to deflect from their dogshit buddy
Anons, when do I build a crimson guard? Is it only against illusions?Is it good against physical heroes, or not really?Do I only build it against PL, TB and the like?What about against monke? His monkes are physical damagers, and numerous, right?What about building it against undying to cuck the zombies?
>>550396521>not using strict solo matchmakingngmi retard
>>550396657doesn't apply to unranked because valve are gay and dumb
>its a brood patch yup im not reinstalling
great another hero that can just dispel monkey with a clickexcellent design frosttoad
>>550396531It got buffed so it doesn't get dispelled anymore. It's good vs zoo, Medusa's splitshots, heroes like Visage, etc.
>remember on Deadlock how a guy posted "DONT ADD TREANT PROTECTOR" into the community hero ideas because of a nightmare>valve buffs the hero into a nightmareA TREE KILLED YOU. A TREE
>>550396809>unrankedkys
>>550397760he's dogshit now though
Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you for your continued support!
>>550396521Parties are the worst.>pos 1 has beef with the pos 5>keeps bitching for most of lane>my worthless pos 4 joins in on the bitching after laning>tell my pos 4 to shut the fuck up, he doesn't get to criticise anyone because he's so fucking worthless, I'd rather have a Pudge bot sitting around in lane with me than his blind afk ass>pos 4 and pos 5 both get on my case as if I'm the reason we lost a free lane against two melees>tell the pos 5 to shut the fuck up since I wasn't talking to him>we're getting dominated and sitting afk in base, so I give the pos 4 a detailed explanation on how to lane, starting with how it's not league of legends so it's okay to fucking right-click an enemy hero in lane more than once every 10 minutes>pos 4 keeps ignoring everything I say and bringing up random irrelevant shit like how I have more assists than kills so I don't get to talk, or whatever the fuck his logic was>pos 1 staying oddly quiet the entire time, think it's because he's a mature player who is focusing on playing>nope, just feeds like a retard>think 4+5 are a retard duo, which is why the pos 5 joined in for no reason>end of game>it was 1+4 in a duo>5 was a solo randoThe duo was also two British players too. It's always the bongs. I thought burgers were bad but bongs are somehow worse when it comes to English-speaking players.
>>550397507>weeeeeh why is my faggot hero countered WEEEEH
>>550398067Does this qualify as Largo porn?
>>550398067peak reddit.
>>550398067sex with loli pugna
ME SAPPORT
>>550398067Way to ruin loli pugna, faggot.
>>550398067Jeez for a second I thought the tongue was going inside... phew
So now that the dust has settled what are the best pos 1s, 2s, and 3s? And why is the answer to all of them dragon knight
>>550350815>>550351252Are people really about to figure out that crit has always applied to illusions? Is now the time?
I haven't played ranked in a couple yearsShould I bother with role queue or just do the normal mode?
>>550398067This had better lead to vore
>>550352392I have said for years that TB is a garbage design for a hero. He's the least interesting illusion hero and his entire gameplay loop is >Farm>Press E in fights>Right click>press R when lowIts fucking boring and his model and animations look so lazily and sloppily done
Is midas just a useless item now? Whats the actual math on money return
>>550399109Role queue is vastly more popular for a reason
>>550399237You can diss his gameplay but his design is pretty good along with his voiceworkthose are the only things that make him fun
>>550399109Normal is going to have a wide MMR range but if you're rusty, it's fine for getting back into the swing of things.
>>550399354>>550399538ive played about 50 games of unranked in the last month, suppose ill just queue every roll and build my tokens up while i get used to it again
>>550397690but what about singular physical damage dealers like ursa, troll, LC?
Any oldfag have that thisisbob Dota 1 comic that went like:>new heroes back then>>1 sec stun, 300 dmg nuke, speed buff, 500 dmg ult>new heroes now>>1.3457e^4% damage self debuff spin increased while wearing an item that starts with the letter Y, 34%hp vector nuke that does quantum computing with new mechanics(I'm butchering it, but you get the point)
Ok froggo is omega fun, almost as fun as primal
>>550400417It's not worth more than a big armor item (Shiva's, AC) against heavy hitters like Ursa or Sven but it's good for Troll. It's a good item vs high attack speed (like Troll) and/or lots of small attack damage instances (Medusa, summons).
anyone who thinks the frog is good is a herald
eh well
>>550402463He's good if you pair him with Primal Beast or other heroes who predominantly deal damage thought their spells
>Largo>is fat aka largebravo
>>5504028266 months to come up with that name, give them some credit.
>winning lane as support>look at other lanes>they've all fed their asses offevery time
Don't the changes basically dumpster diffu and radi for most of the heroes who'd specifically want them over other items?
im trash at the game, dotards :(
>>550402680Shaman du l'ombre
wow, we should play together (stack) sometime
>>550402826>Auroth>AuroraI’m clapping
>>550402826
What's the build for largo?I feel like it will be aura + aghanim's and lense.
you can click the little frogs in the main menu and they will play a sound>>550405940glimmer/that phys shield item + shard 1st probably
>>550405940Pavise, Solar Crest and Lotus Orb are good on him
>>550405940unironically blademail. longer duration + self heal ult
guysisnt the new heroMAESTRO?OG's will know
Why the FUCK did they ruin midas?
>>550407791Invoker players don't deserve any good items
it's uphttps://youtu.be/UOtnO758Iro
>>550405794Largo also means long in spanish.
how does mmr during placement work? i get that if youre low confidence you gain and lose a lot, but do you gain more/lose less if you get mvp or high gpm xpm kda etc?this captcha is ass btw
>>550348136Examples?
TUESDAY
this patch sucks
>>550407889wexCHADS laughing at exort afk farm sunstrike missers
>>550410007free game no complaining
Done.
largo is the definition of win more hero lmaowhat a useless sack of dogshit
so um did everyones game throw them out?
r8 my layout>>550410652i finished my game right before servers shit the bed, i cant queue now though
>>550410332It's crazy how feckless his ult feels. As a core with aghs he's BadLesh, as a support he's BadVenge.
>>550409472hes a hero that uses invulnerability as a save which saw massive buffs
>LARGO doesn't have a funny meme talent that lets him coreUNSOVL
Largo edit when?
>>550411120that makes him SOVL though
>win MASSIVELY>servers shit the bed>game didn't count>no progress on quartero>no meta currency>no +1 weekly winfuck anonsplease tell me it's gonna be counted laterbecause it was such a hard-won game
>>550399451His voice work is good.His model is... meh. The textures dont do it for me. Other heroes looks great with the relatively low polycount of an RTS unit that heroes have, he just looks blurry and smudgyHis model animations are awful. He runs like he has a rod up his ass and cant get it outHis ability vfx are cool howeverOverall 5/10 nothing exciting. Considering he was AM's brother in Dota1, in Dota2 its a shame AM looks so much better overall considering the hero releases were years apart.
hello, yes no game cordinator plz fix thanks
>>550411331it's tuesday
Are you supposed to basically play the movement speed ult buff 24/7 as long as your mana allows it to move your team faster from fights to objectives to other objectives etc?
Why did they change PL like this? Diffusal has always been his thing.
>New aghsHoly shit is Core Tree finally viable after 20 years?
>>550411816because FUCK pl and every pussy that picks h*mLMAO I am ECSTATICABSOLUTE BLISS
So is PL just fucked? Most are saying he's useless, others are saying he's OP now but their reasoning sounds dog-shit or just cope. What do you build on him now
>>550411816>>550411976total phaggot lancer death
>>550411974Fuck u faggot say that about PL again and see what the fuck happens. You are nothing
idk what largo does but I won 2 games with him on my team
>>550411976PL is fine, just take the armament facet.
>>550411695Only if you e yourself for low mana costs.The thing with Largo is he is effectively a 6 skill buff and control support at the cost of not having a playmaker ult
>>550411331Why is it always indians?
>>550412412Anon.. PL doesnt have a facet
>>550411974BASEDTINKER AND HUSKAR NEXT
how is it climbing mmr playing support? i feel like my fate just depends on a coin toss, is my pa gonna go afk or the enemy spectre?
>hero is fine as is>completely gut themWhat compels Volvo to do this?
>>550413102Its fine. If you are good, you will climb. The scenarios you described happen so little it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things
>>550413102It can feel helpless because at the end of the day somebody has to go hit buildings and if your cores don't want to you can't do much to end the game. You have a lot more impact than you think until that point. Make sure you rotate and secure power runes for your mid.
Why does Largo have a Kez voice instead of a Treant voice
terrybros... how do we cope? hope pros just lose nore with him so he gets buffed?
so they reverted spectre back to old (aka completely dumpstered her), why?
>>550413102you will lose because your mid will get stomped, your offlane will get stomped, and your safe lane will build stupid shit that doesnt work and blame you for not having wards despite dying to an obvious gank or walking into highground.
>>550412404>>550412404Easiest way to explain it is>Innate: All buffs he casts last longer>W is Muerta W - Except its smaller, trades the silence ghosts at the edge for mini stuns in the whole aoe on a pulse>Q - Earth spirits grip on allies on a smaller range that also dispels debuffs, dispel a debuff to get bonus regen on largo>Also it can grab enemies to damage dispel buffs in reverse, but on a shorter range>Can be self cast as a pure dispel>E - a straight 100% uptime buff, like old marci sidekick>Makes mana costs cheaper, and gives all spells Lina's afterburn facet effect>Ult puts him in ulti stance>Disarmed and loses his regular abilities>New abiltiies are damage buff (spell damage amp + magic damage on hit), move buff + slow resistance, heal>All three spells have a very short duration and pulse in an aoe>You have to activate them on a metronome beat so can be spammed mana allowing, but time limited by the beat>Shard = any buffs he casts gives Largo a copy of the buff too>Aghs = You can cast two of the ulti aoe buffs at the same time to mix and match, when you do = aoe pulse of damageSo he's a tanky support that buffs teammates, dispels debuffs, repositions allies and enemies, dispels enemy buffs and has some aoe zone control
>Slark "rework">His passives get moved around and he just gets one new ability (which is boring and sucks)they could've at least made give extra essence stacks or something.
Wanted to get back into the game because 3 to 4 number change patch should have been big. Frog hero is cool but holy shit 99% of the patch seems severely underwhelming. They removed more stuff than they added and there are tons of nonsensical reworks and nerfs towards heroes that NOBODY even plays or has dogshit win rate for months now. Worse offender in my personal case is getting rid of the channel time on Dawnbreaker's ult when that was the redeeming quality of an otherwise mid hero that gets outscaled by everything.I don't get why they don't buff the 45% win rate heroes so the meta actually changes and we see uncommon picks instead of the same shit every game.
>>550414032Giving her global teleport on a low cd as an ulti was always a retarded choice for a lategame carryIts good to revert some of that retarded design creep and make her slower and more lategame focused again
>>550411974mana burn is a no fun allowed mechanic
>>550413102i feel like its easier to climb as a support because you can almost guarantee your pos 1 has a good game, barring brain damage. if you pick pos 1 you might get a pos5 whos just there for the role queue tokens
>>550415183is she actually late game focused though? her stats and skills have been nerfed to shit compared to old spectre
>>550413102pick shadowshaman take tower with wards give money whole teamalso disable for days
>>550411974>>550411816>>550415394Mana Burn should remain solely Anti-Fun's signature mechanic. Diffusal is right to remain a poor mans imitation.Lion mana succ and invoker mana vacuum are like the mana drain sidekicks to Magina
Diffusal is still good on her.
>>550416220yeah but then you have a windrunner
>>5504163024 seconds stun on 2 people (or a rampage with Tangled facet) on 10 seconds cooldown + Axe ult with 3000 range isn't a bad thing.
please kill yourself if you pick shadow shaman
>>550416430>or a rampage*or a ravage
>>550416220ai slop
>>550415775>Takes 19% less damage just by existing, reflects it too, scaling massively with EHP>W is a 50% damage steroid illusion on a 20s cd that doubles as a gap closer>Innate is 55+ pure damage on hit at level 16 scaling up to 83+ at level 30, scaling massively with attack speed>Ult with no aghs is a 400% damage steroid that spreads your damage evenly amongst the entire enemy team globally with zero effort (25 talent buffs this to 500%)>Aghs now gives her a global hard disable Yah, still lategame focused. Definitely far weaker early game tho
>>550417039It's from 2021 and not marked as AI, by CloudPillowArt.
>>550413475>The scenarios you described happen so littleheh, surely... you dont know my bracket>>550414107that happens a lot. im getting wisdom or pulling or going mid or gating, i type it in chat, ping it. 10s later my core dies: "ping ping ping sup noob gg end afk">>550413710>>550415537>>550415824i thought d2g would have the opposite opinion of playing core to climb. anyway, thanks for the tips
>>550412327you are brown
>>550415537>if you pick pos 1 you might get a pos5 whos just there for the role queue tokensthey always pick lion and buy zero sentries or dust until they have blink at which point they'll buy 2 sentries and 1 dust until they have aghs
>>550417474Prioritize winning your lane, teleporting to tower dives, and stacking for your pos 1 and you've got a good shot
New patch sucks, we all moving over to HoN with PPD or what?
why is post-pick time so fuckin long
>>550418917HOLY UNC
>you can click the froglings and they do a little animation on the homescreencute :)
>>550419331nobody fucking cares
>new dota hero>look inside>sona league of legends x octavia warframedotards............
bard from leeg mogs reddit frog so much its not even funny
Marci is just HoN Pandemonium
all the good hero ideas are saved for deadlock now sorry dota sisters
Largo's healing song feels me with joy! c:I actually go to demo hero just to hear the song :D
fix the report system
>>550362314Pango Ult got dumpstered so fucking hard
>>550353507kill yourself
>>550362314>pangoniggers on suicide watchgoodfucking league of legends ass hero
>>550419846i care thread bully
Is Largo the first funslop hero?
>finally find a terrorblade arcana with a nice color gem for a good price>hero gets gutted two days later
is frog good
Why?? That seems like a huge increase for essentially nothing_?
>>550362314>shitters are so bad at positioning that a 100 cast range buff is enough to make lina viable in low mmr
>>550418917I installed this game and it crashed when I tried to use demo mode. Pre-alpha quality.
>>550421845he's fun but useless after 10 min
>teammate chats in cyrilic or arab>chance of win instantly halvesWhy must these people queue on EUW?
>>550421221that was treant until they BROKE him
is this game fun?
>>550425884I played I think my first game on him in 10 years today in a ranked game. He seemed fine, I don't remember how he was though
>>550425884Treant has to be one of the least fun supports I can think of. What's fun about him to you?
I have yet to win with Largo on my team or lose against him.>40% winrateYeah.
is frog + bs + zeus a viable meme?
If Largo was the last new Hero, and all hero-related updates afterwards were balance patches and cosmetics, would you be satisfied, or would you think the game is dead and stop playing?
Why can Largo lick himself
>>550409193Just win/loss.
What is the advantage of playing someone like Arc Warden vs Zeus or Lina or any other character with fat nukes that don't rely on single target? Because all I have is that Arcs range on his abilities are nuts but practically doesnt matter when his movespeed is so slow.
>>550427336Lick has a dispel effect on hit
>>550427076With no new content patches would be pointless as a balanced game is very boring.
What can we deduce from the 2025 results?
>>550428372The Dota 2 erp scene will thrive this year.
>>550387063Largo just means "large" in spanish and portuguese.
>>550429434largo means long which is weird cause hes wide and should have been called "ancho" instead then
frog hero is DOGSHIT
Holy fuck the frog actually is terrible, 20 times the effort of playing an aura monkey hero with half the benefit.
IO buffs NOW!
frog feels like he's only good in 5 man try hard stacks that brool forever
>bard frog>New Zealand accent for some reason>not Cajun with a banjoBuncha retards at Valve these days.
IS LONE DRUID BUFFED OR NERFEDI CAN'T FUCKING TELL
>>550432509He will be first pick/ban once he's in captains mode. He's too good of a teamfight hero. But since most pubs are full of retards that don't ever want to group up he's kinda bad.
>toad champion>made for BROOLINGHE'S NOT EVEN HIDING IT ANYMORE STOP HIM
>>550429772>>550429434it means wide in portuguese
Dotards, Lina's wyrmwrought flare or Yurnero's edge of the lost order?
frogman needs double the cast range on Q and double the damage on W.
frogman needs a talent that lets him attack during ult
frogman needs a negative effect for his enemies on his ult songs
>>550432708If you can't tell then he's nerfed for your bear centric sit the actual hero in base all game play style
So do we now have pretty much one of every D&D class in the game?Does Dazzle count as a cleric?
who's herbs?
i think they will release another hero soon
Is Lardo Sentinel or Scourge? I assume Sentinel? Need to update my sort.
>>550436320Classic Sentinel Troll Warlord
>>550436320Definitely sentinel. >ringmaster>sentinellmao
>>550436320This fucker has big Scourge energy
>>550436320I'd say "beastmen" kinda characters make more sense to side with the elves
>>550436320>pitlord>huskAre those really sent?
>>550436082they're testing a hero called arjun who is either chess themed or an archer, judging by previous years I expect it around march-april
>>550437291Huskar was sentinel, underlord wasn't
>>550436320Ringmaster is 100% direhe is a murderous machine.
>>550436578He is though>>550436661Think that one came from the backend variable since it's still in the game>>550437591I got my list from some guy who dove into the data, would they have any reason to flip him or do you think the guy was just wrong?
>>550437887Could've been wrong, also pretty sure earth spirit is supposed to be sentinel. Weren't those two released close to each other? Maybe the list you went off had some ordering issue
>>550438265I think someone said they basically assign all new heroes Sent, but you could be right. Wish I knew how to check the variables myself
>>550438429Yeah, I've heard that too, but if you want a sent/scourge split you have to do some legwork yourself. Granted, most new heroes are "good guys" and would fall in sentinel, only Grimstroke and Ringmaster are overtly scourge. Maybe Mars.I think the variable is ignored and set to the default these days, which is sentinel/radiant even if the hero is evil incarnate.
>>550438265You're right, I swapped him and pitlord, made Ringmaster Scourge, and Lardo Sentinel. Thanks, anons, for helping me with my tism. Any other suggestions will have to wait until tomorrow.
>>550438429https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Heroes_(Classic_Layout)
>>550437887I know Troll Warlord is Sentinel, that's why I called it a classic
>>550347672They gutted my PA… 12s cd on phantom strike is bullshit and kills her viability even more than it already is. Farming is so slow now not to mention man foghting if you don’t get killingblow+shard sucks monkey dick
>>550418917Holy shit he aged like cottage cheese.
I want an item that has crit protection. I'm so bored with that shit mechanic and how free it is.
>lose won lane because my laning """"partner"""" skils every skill except the one that wins the laneepic!
where tf can i watch these honeypot meme uae playoffs
largo + underlord combo is insaneits just a free lane
>>550418917prescription opioid addiction phenotype
>pick Oracle for atlas>teammate keeps tower diving the Techies like a retard and feeding>save him from a Techies with W+E combo>mashing that E for him>teammate stops running to type "w does nothing techies is mostly physical">he dies while typing>lose because teammate is a fucking retard who dies 20 more times in the next 20 mins while tower divingI swear he was doing it on purpose or something. He could not stop feeding. Every time he saw an enemy, he just ran straight at them.
How do you play 16000 games and can't get out of Crusader?
>>550446585They have achieved inner peace. They come home from the 9-5, play a game of dota and then go out and grill up some burgers for the kids.
>>550446585there's a lot of players like thati just hope they're having fun
here's the biggest patch winnerssome of them didn't get that big direct buffs, so they must've been buffed indirectly by other changes
>>550449623Feels good being a tidechad right now
>>550449623and losersspectre, lone druid and treant will probably go up and people become more accustomed to the changespangolier seem completely destroyed though
>>550449623i wonder about tiny. did the "aura" stun effect do that much?
>>550449623>OD>0 changes >+3%Dotards?
Pitlord buffs are pretty nice, very comfy laning
>>550449623>other changesSaid changes being "every game has a feeder playing the frog".Most of those are dropping back down though. Stats this early are meaningless. You have to wait a week or so.
Stop playing treant 5, he's offlaner now
>no hoodwink buffsAnother patch to skip.
>>550449623Tide talent that anchor smashes when his passive procs is completely broken. I had a faceless void kill himself hitting me inside chrono just from my passive procing a few times.
>>550451864>completely brokenNigga never heard of break
what happened to the art direction?they are putting the most random things from the workshop to the game and call it a day
What's the consensus on the new Heart
>>550454043They literally don't care about dota anymore. Everyone moved over to Deadlock.
>>550454430First item on Centaur with shard and if you get low you have 500hp regen.
>>550454518Gonna try this outon axe too
>>550454484tranny
>>550449797>All major reworks were gigantic flops
>>550454043I need the Ukrainian pudge set
The new hero is just a bad copy of Sona from LoL
>>550449797>oracleshitters in shambles after the hero is no longer easymodelmao get fucked
>>550455702he plays nothing like sona, retard
Those frog tunes are so catchy.
>play new treant>need aghs, bkb and a movement speed item to make him workI donno... do you rush radiance and then go farm?
>>550457350Battlefury is core now
>>550457350my mid went rad tree and that bitch got carried so hard he was just an ult bot until the last few mins
>>550457350>Wasting 4200+ gold so you can have HALF of svens damage for 10 seconds every 70.>On a hero with some of the worst attack speed multiplierIts garbage dont bother
>>550450178indirect buffs
Tree seems godtier in lane for the first 5 mins then quickly becomes useless
>>550458040You get like 10k HP, combine that with a heart and you're ungillable
>>550449797>clocki played it yesterday and a drow would just walk out of cogs and be pushed forward or not be pushed at all, and i was like... damn this hero has a smaller hitbox or something?but no, valve just screwed clock and his cogs suck balls nowthanks valve, my mmr thanks you
>>550451436He farms even slower now though because he lost both of his facets. The vines creep damage penalty is not enough and meteor hammer is still an awful build up for him. He doesn't even get the late game whole map farm from aghs scepter either.Kinda hate the living armor change too. The old one was pretty boring but it was reliable. The new one does fuck all to actually slow tower pushes now.What is better for him now though is the laning stage, since he can abuse natures guise and new leech seed. These changes feel so wrong at the moment. I don't know what the fuck icefrog expects you to play him as.
>>550458576I played clock mid and was against a beast and he could somehow walk SUPER CLOSE to the cogs, thought that was a bit strange.
Dreamleague's 1st match of the day starting if you want to see esports with the new patch.
>>550362314Brood finally playable after 50 years
>>550449797I don't think spectre will go up much, her current iteration is trying to support her old afk farming style and modern ganking playstyle, but it does both worse than before.
Game 1 is pretty even so far. Where the fuck is le froggo?
>>550460887brood was good last patch too
>>550461476Not in Captain's Mode.
>>550461476New heroes aren't available in Captain's Mode until Valve decides they're ready. Are you new?
>>550449623>54% drow WRWhat the fuckHer kit never allows her to carry solo
>>550461610>Are you new?At this point I am.
>>550461790Ahh you're the retard spamming the thread every day about muh wc3dota doomposts. Makes sense. Go kill yourself.
>>550461902>the retard spamming the thread every day about muh wc3dota doompostsNot me, no.
>>550459758from the inside, cogs dont push you back anymore. so yeah, people can just hug the cogs and nothing happens.and if they decide to walk out, they get pushed AWAY. total scam
>>550461790Welcome back dotard
>>550462093I just enjoy watchan it nowadays.
>open esports>cent vs marsi pray for the day brainless melee str heroes are out of the meta
isnt slark worse as support now?
>>550462359he's better at trading for surewhen you trade with your new ability, you basically get your old passive regen back for the duration of the buff
>>550462086>>550458576Is this intentional? The cogs is the ONLY thing that still makes clock relevant. If they actually nerfed the cogs he's dead for real now.
>>550462503>Is this intentional?it is not in the patch notes.they either forgot to mention it or a bug.so it is a valve mistake either way
>>550462440well 9class isnt even skilling it
>>550462503It's not in the patch notes so nobody knows.
>>550462503and yeah, the hero is absolutely dead if this doesnt change
>>550462725>>550462503Its nearly like they need to REMOVE the cog facet and instead give the hero some serious buffs on all his other abilities.He has been unchanged pretty much since a decade and gotten zero buffs (not counting the cog facet) while other heroes has gotten insane buffs on every single skill they got.Heck they even nerfed his Aghs this patch, I don't know what the fuck Valve is doing.
>now also unspellable giga slow how is this balanced?
>>550462971>200 movementcap for 6 secondsisn't this insane?
>>550463102in a lot of cases it's just like 35-50% slow but that's really good too.but then obviously it counters haste effect like lycan or centaur ulti too
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CS' ESL Pro League will be played in front of the live crowd in 2026. What about dotards ESL DreamLeague?
hear me outwhat ifcentaur ult had dispel
>>550462885the only thing they buffed was battery assault, but that spell is do conditional it doesnt matter much.right now, everything good about the hero is around cogs, it burns mana, it bounces twice sometimes, itgives insane vision, etc. they are actually a bit broken, but the rest of the hero sucks ass. they should nerf cogs, make it more fair, but gotta buff the rest of the hero
How come they are only casting 3 bo3s today? There are 4 bo3s to play in that first round.
>>550463215>counters the haste effectdidn't even think about that oh fug
>>550463102it is ok plus the break, but note that the rest of the item kinda sucks compare its effect with nullifier or abyssal and it doesnt seem that great, you know
>>550463664VP Yandex is tomorrow for some reason
>>550463664Time constrains probably
level 1 frog ult feels like fucking griefing if you use it it does nothing
>>550463624Wasn't the battery assault buff really minor?I find it crazy they removed the extra damage on creeps for it, every hero can flashfarm jungle with a low CD mana cost spell now, but GOD FORBID that clock had a single spell that allowed him to kill a single jungle camp a bit faster.
>>550465683Use it after you cast your other spells doofus. Not like you have anything better to do at that point
when cute anime girl hero?
>>550466001>Valve one of the most woke anti-anime corporations>adding cute good looking femalesLMAO
>>550466394marci is tranime though
mother comes
>Lone Druid bear changed to an actual melee hero now>Try SD against it in demo>STILL can't use Disruption on the bearNice game dotards.
rosh hits harder?
Void stance on Beastmaster is fucking useless in a game with barely any skillshots. How are you supposed to use it then?
>>550468650Well obviously it is because the spirit bear is undisruptable. Take your PUSSY demon back to ability draft where he belongs, loser.
I think Arc Warden with Eblade might be kinda busted.
Largo is dogshitHis ult is okay in certain situations but at best it's a middling aura that burns through mana like fuck all elseHis AoE isn't complete dogshit but it's just a weaker version of other, better AoE spells, and it isn't powerful enough to flash farmHis E is probably okay but good luck finding somebody smart enough to understand how to use it effectivelyHis Q has some practical uses and is basically his best spell, but it's still just a really weak hook with a dispellHis innate and shard looks memeworthy until you realize it's basically just an extra 1.5 seconds on a bunch of items he can't really affordPossibly not complete dogshit if you have a coordinated team who plays around him but good luck getting that out of a pub game
arc warden support
>>550347672SOULpepe won
>>550454043And yet it's far better than current LoL design. Minus the High Noon skin line, that shit will always be IMO the best cosmetics in a MOBA.
>>550468805
>>550469092The biggest problem I see with largo is that people play him like a ranged into support when he's supposed to be a melee str support.Play him like ogre, not lion. As a matter of fact, not even just ogre, play him like carry ogre.I'm moving to ff14 tomorrow after the sale starts and never touching this dog shit game again.
TI in Mumbai will be a BLAST. lets campaign for it
>>550454043free gameno bitching
did cr1t do something? it seemed like his health got buffered with miniheals while he was getting hit by the troll
it doesnt matter if Largo is shit or OP, what matters is the conceptand the concept is finetherefore, valve and icefrog WIN
>>550432614His backstory is heavily inspired by Pacific Islanders, that's why they gave him a Kiwi accent
>mega on mega violencevalve needs to step in
megas vs megas? pog champ
shitter is so dogshit
>Play 12v12>Storm is fucking unstoppable now with essentially infinite regen>Largo players are the equivalent to idle/lurking Rikis or MK vibing in the treetopsFuuuuuuuuuck
>>550470421can we say that if he won 2x TIs? i've been watching n0tail and i think he is a gameruiner but still, 2 TIs
>>550470496the god of getting carried
Get trolled nature cunt.
Ammar the brown faggot
midas should give 160 gold + the original bountyi
can ame beat spirit?
Love watching falcons lose. such a soulless team
>>550432614>Retard that knows nothing about New Zealand calling others retardChecks out.
>>550470896>chokes against failclowns in TI and doesn't buy diffusal against medusa>same team they choked against gets 2-0 stomped by spiritthey are doomed
quinn is the 2nd best caster after tobi
>>550470496>i think he is a gameruineryeah i watched him play np the other day and it was cringe inducing, he lost his team the game while blaming someone else the whole time
>>550468776No just Lifesteal is less effective
>>550471326He’s voice is teribble too monotone his projecting avout headgames and tilting is hilarious insight in his mindbroken head tho
>bulldog losing to sumail's brotherhow the mighty has fallen
>commercial for getting a masters degree in finland
sex with sheever
This is kinda hot. Just pretend Slacks isn't there.
>>5504733055'10 v 6'2
Is there a point to buying Midas now? HotD still gives extra bounty gold, right? Or was that taken out last patch?Valve really fucking hates Midas...
>>550472683why not do it then?
>>550473983>HotD only gives 50% gold and 50% expDamn, maybe I'll start buying Maelstroms to farm then...
Is anybody capable of spectating friend games? I swear the Watch Game button is broken now. And watching pub games on the Watch tab is fine, just the friend spectating is broken. And yes, I checked if they were below the meme draft MMR threshold so it's not that.
ephey bosom though
>>550473983Yes, to get gold>b-b-but the expmidas is for gold
Are you actually watching the Putin propaganda?
>>550473983ogre and carry arc warden are the only two you could justify it on. Invoker has zero reason to buy it now.
>>550475010>Putin living in your head rent free.
can someone explain how this is okay?
>>550475307its fun
new hero fucking sucks big ballseven if he had his aghs effect transferred to the base hero it wouldn't matter because his ult is as mana hungry as storm spirit
>>550475307It has a silhouette close enough to CW and I don't take this game that seriously.
>>550475307This game is even worse than league now with crap like this
>>550475307does this really satisfy the strict glance value criteria?
>>550475485>because his ult is as mana hungry as storm spiritThat is just not true hyperbole poster. Though It would be nice if his ult did at least some of the aghs scepter damage on base
>>550475307I just got out of a game that was lost because I mispositioned to kill their courier and it turned out to be fucking Centaur Warrunner. Like holy shit Valve FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME!
>talents are now freegiga powercreep
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
>>550475790>mana cost of every beat is 44(with a bit reduction for every correct timing)>2 beats is 88>in a support 5 hero that with a very good game will have 1k mana pool at level 18 and pic related as items>he needs to cast his ult 5 times for full effect(half of his mana already gone)
>the fucking 55% winrate hero got a slap on the wrist>that's itlol xd
>>550476989Is rushing Aghs on this hero the play? Wouldn't you want Solar/Lotus/Linken's + Shard?
How do I build nu-Kez now that he can actually have attack speed with his Q
>>550477456blink 5 moon shard
>>550477552Very funny
>>550476989Chances are you are over using the song if you have mana problems past the mid game. If your other abilities are off cd you should probably be using those. Also you should defs get a second mana regen item before you go for aghs. lotus/euls/vlads/aether or something.
>>550477305Calling it now, this will be his go-to build
>>550478371I don't think this mana pool and mana regen are enough to sustain 2 songs from Aghs.
>>550398067My hero
>>550478371where the shard?
Kino game 1.
Ame the choke artist
>>550478371>snk to do literally nothing
Why is dota casting and analyst soulless?Cap can't even keep up with the casting and they fucked over Tobi over this snake?>inb4 listening to EN streamCS doesn't have this problem
>>550480254tobi is a snake himself
where are my fat bearded game analysts?who is this girlwhere is purge
>>550480710purge isnt fat
>>550478371WRONG NOOBOBVS ITEM RADIANCE RUSH. RUN AROUND HEALING SELF WHILE DOTS
>>550480254Be glad there are EN casters and analysts at all. DOTA is literally on its way out. CS is thriving in terms of the playerbase growth with a multigorillion skin market on top of it.
>>550475307It isn't, everyone that voted for it should feel ashamed.
honestly this piss is such dogshit 2025 still counts as a no-new-hero-year
I still love sheever.
>>550481463>IS A FROG>SEA SHELLSFROGS ARE FRESH WATER, VALVE.... YOU LEGIT CAN DESIGN ONE FUCKING HERO?
>>550481463All he needs is his ult having inverse negative effects on enemies
I'm so fucking tired of crapitilist. It's crazy that fucking gorgc is the better option so much of the time.
i just want to watch esports but it's ruined by this meme centaur set
>>550482864did you not read the comic retardGOD
If I did that I'd get 9 reports and low priority.
>larl picked bot spiritI really want to nap but it looks like its going to a game 3
>>550478460>>550478743>>550480161>>550481338DOUBTERS BTFO
>>550483701good job psg
>pick an enemy hero for the monster hunter bounty>kill him in bounty rune fightIt didn't count because the horn didn't sound yet apparently.>fight breaks in the lane he's in, tp to help>enemy tries to tp when his dazzle graves him>i shackle to cancel tp, my pos1 gets the killAnd yet the bounty didn't count because apparently you have to deal damage to the enemy hero or it's not even an assist, despite the shackleshot canceling the tp and guaranteeing the kill.
>>550484185>>550484185>>550484185
>>550481463doomshitters coping HARD
frog heal is worse than fukin wd heal who came up with this shit
>>550483284NO THE FIRST PAGE WAS TOO GAY
>>550475485>His ult is as mana hungry as storm.You're not meant to strum ult like its a dragonforce solo.You weave brief beats inbetween your other cooldowns thats why its an ult with a 2 second CD
>>550486819He is 100% supposed to do that because his sounds deal damage with Aghs, plus his E
>>550484101The pre-horn thing is because you're still able to swap contract targets until then so that way you can avoid getting cucked by getting killed early or just losing the option to change contracts for a specific mat just because the one you selected happened to be killed early. It's an understandable decision. But they should've included a "I really fucking want this early" button or something but I guess that's too much hassle and then people will still complain anyway.I'm surprised debuffs don't count though. Might be because they just copied the mechanic from the PA + Oracle event where you had to get kills.
