I liked the anarchist voicelines where he talks about atoma being flat. It might sound silly to you but 100% some druggy retard would actually fucking think that

>>550421408
People who ain't never seen irl junkies don't think the anarchist is realistic

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

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>>550421029
>at least one of the hive scum personalities is downright faithful, having very positive interactions with the zealot and always acting like he's their padre, as well as praising the Big E for good fortune or when someone else does it
>aside from general distaste for arbites, the lex, nobles, and calling veteran a sucker for being fodder basically, they're otherwise not heretical at all
Which personality is this? Outlaw?

>>550421851
I think its bounty hunter.

>>550421851
female bounty hunter, probably male too but female is the one I've been playing
when complimenting the zealot for killing streaks or reviving him it's usually something faithful and amicable
>holy works still left to do, priest

I just realized something. The new ogryn voice, Heavy, who is specifically a hive ganger, was put into the game files in february this year. You can see people were fucking around with an unfinished version of it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTr7HV8yT-Y

Notably, notice that he was already using ganger vocab at this point (doornail'd doornail'd doornail'd). So beyond a doubt they had already planned for this Ogryn voice to be a hive ganger.
So, you can actually deduce that they've planned for Hive Scum since at the very least early 2025. Given that this video was probably late to the party and the voicelines were probably already in for a bit, probably late 2024 at the earliest.

I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's solid evidence that they've planned Hive Scum before the arbites release already. I'm curious if they planned to do hive scum first originally

>>550422578
Yes. We know

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Is this as absurdly strong as it sounds?

>>550423214
Kinda. It also makes your dodges faster, which is a huge mobility boost and lets you movement tech off ledges like crazy, but, if you're bad and unaware of your surroundings, you can also cliff yourself without being able to hang on.

>>550423417
>lets you movement tech off ledges like crazy
What does this mean exactly? NTA and I don't have hiv cum.

>>550423589
Sliding off ledges makes you project out from the ledge. It's faster than sprinting off them.

>>550423589
Sliding off ledges preserves your momentum, you just gotta do it sideways or backwards.
If you climb on a crate, turn to the side, and dodge slide, you can fling yourself at ~2.5x sprinting speed to get a decent bit of distance.
Many players do this unwittingly off stairs and then ledge themselves.

>>550423750
>>550423754
Ah I see what you mean, yeah. Great movement if you're aware of your surroundings but can make it easier to ledge yourself.

>"OI MATE DON'T FOOKIN SIT IN THE ELEVATOR REVIVE ME U FOOKIN COONT THIS IS A TEAM GAME"
>"I'm not your fucking babysitter just die it's the end of the level anyway"
>"OMG YOU COONT IMMA REPORT YU FOOKING COONT INNIT BLIMEY"
Kek I love bongs they're the gentle retards of the EU server

3 wound curios on new Zealot for Martyr, or do you do 2 wound + Toughness now that stacks cap out? 3 wounds lets you have more HP with max bonus though.

>>550424837
2w + 1t. I don't see why you'd go 3w, doesn't seem worth it. You get multiple sources of TDR as Zealot alone.

>>550424932
'Cause you have a bigger health pool remaining while at max stacks than you do with 2w+1t. But yeah, 2w+1t was what I initially threw on.

>>550424837
I forget the math but I vaguely remember 3 wounds letting you sit at 25% from Holy Revenant and get the full bonuses. Slightly easier quality of life to pull off. +1 toughness is probably optimal though. If you bring martyrdom into AIDS havocs, you're gonna need lots of corruption resist because the purple mechanic actually counters high numbers of wounds otherwise, can't regen a locked wound back with purity since they accumulate fast.

>>550423214
it's enough dodge distance for a pox burster to begin their leap onto you, and instead of pushing you just dodge twice and are now 20m away from the explosion radius
it's enough dodge distance to immediately remove yourself from fire puddles even if you're at the center of the circle
it's enough dodge distance that you can backstab a bulwark by dodging from his front
it's enough dodge distance that you can kite a daemonhost by just backdodging
it's pretty fucking good

>>550424837
I've been going, 3 wound curios. One more notch of synergy for the Bleed for the Emperor and Restoring Faith combo, and two wounds worth buffer instead of one at the minimum.

did the new captcha break 4chan X for anyone else?

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why is there two threads´ ?

>>550425381
press f12 and delete your cookies for the site
down side is you're now going to have to do a bunch of captchas to stop doing them again

>>550425138
>but I vaguely remember 3 wounds letting you sit at 25% from Holy Revenant and get the full bonuses
Yup. That part is nice.
>If you bring martyrdom into AIDS havocs
Nah, I haven't even touched Havoc for a couple resets. Appreciate the info though in case I ever change my mind.

>>550425356
>Bleed for the Emperor and Restoring Faith comb
Oh, I can see it. I hadn't even considered running them. I was stacking DR and toughness regen like mad when I redid my Martyr build. I guess I could drop Punish Impiety and Shield of Contempt though. SoC always annoyed me that it'd just get eaten by teammates, potentially when I really wanted it up. And I'm not a fan of this Eviscerator's push attack.

>The carrion lord thing is the faggot German Psyker isn’t it? Yeah that guy should probably be domed. The golden throne thing can just be chalked up to everyone not knowing that’s a Khornate slogan and just them being zealous.
It's a shame because I kinda like the female version of that voice and I'd use it if only to add more variety since literally everyone just uses the female Savant and "m-muh beloved" male voice. I don't even mind the minor heretical shit but openly and directly speaking shit about God Emperor is one of fastest and surest ways to meet him in universe, so it's genuinely just fucking jarring.
As far as the Zealot goes - it's been hinted that the whole "blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne!" is an actual memetic threat and people corrupted by Khorne will start saying it or variations of it unprompted and without prior knowledge, and out of all the Imperial organizations the Inquisition probably recognizes it. That being said if only it was reduced in frequency I'd just say it's a funny little easter-egg.

>>550425758
Who are you talking to?

>>550425929
The voices!!!

>>550425929
His beloved.

>>550425519
One for ratclickers and one for pigclickers

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>>550426042
DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?

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ATTENTION, YOU INDOLENT RABBLE!

I SHALL NOT TOLERATE THE CONTINUED INFESTATION OF MY MAGNIFICENT AND IMMACULATELY MAINTAINED THREAD BY THE LOATHSOME, FUR-RIDDEN VERMIN COMMONLY DESIGNATED AS RATFAGS.

REMAIN EVER VIGILANT, AND EXECUTE WITHOUT HESITATION ANY INDIVIDUAL EXHIBITING SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR.
FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL BE MET WITH DISCIPLINARY MEASURES OF EXEMPLARY SEVERITY.

THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

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>>550421080
>>550421194
that is correct, enfeeble only applies while you're smiting enemies, not with shock mauls or electro staffs
the steam guides have better written descriptions for a lot of talents
>>550421417
it's the same effect(electrocution), but enfeeble works kinda like a weapon blessing for your blitz, so it's not active unless you're smiting, and you can't wield your melee weapon while smiting so it doesn't benefit from high voltage
so if you're smiting and someone else hits the affected enemies with a shock maul or arbites shotgun, those enemies count as electrocuted and they get the bonus from the high voltage blessing
however charged strikes IS a slightly different effect(it applies DoT on enemies as well as electrocution), so the shock maul benefits from it even though the shock maul applies electrocution to enemies
>Tl:Dr; don't trust fatshark's lies

>>550425519
See >>550422970

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>>550426605
Your Tank-tank is ready-good to go Sir yes-yes!

>>550427206
Looks like a gerbil.

>>550427301
YOU look like a gerbil

>>550427301
You can tell it ain't a gerbil because it ain't crawling around in someone's asshole

>>550427301
That's a Land Raider anon.

Whats a good dog build for arbitor

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>>550429462

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What if the Imperium discovered Pandora one day? What would happen?

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>>550429462
>>550430246
Funny, my tree is almost identical
Reload aura because shotgun, and stun immunity because auric shitters never do objectives

>>550430439
a rogue trader would likely be the first person to make contact
he'd try to turn a profit there
the imperium would likely try to keep contact extremely limited as a single planet of a unique xenos species is well below their notice and not worth the effort, for example they already see the tau in much the same way, only fighting them when necessary, but regarding them as a spec in the galaxy it'd be best to just be in a stalemate with

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>>550430439
verdant goldilocks planet just ripe for being an aggricultural planet
not to mention the retarded-namium ore that could be used for... stuff?
>What if the Imperium discovered Pandora one day?
>What would happen?
TBD

Would it be silly to take the bolt pistol over the needler into havocs as a stim crate guy?
>uploading files from your ip range has been temporarily blocked
>Was fine this morning
How did this website get so much fucking worse over the course of just 5 hours

>>550433224
sounds like someone was doin' sum fuckin' WORK

>>550433224
>Would it be silly to take the bolt pistol over the needler
Sorta. Bolt pistol's boss damage is pretty alright, but it's nowhere near the needler, which also really badly fucks up carapace. Needler also has REALLY unexpectedly good horde clear if you go with the blue one that spreads the love. Needler reaches some really fucking unethical damage numbers (even if TTK gets a little wonky) that bistol will never, ever, ever even hope to achieve.
Lethal prox with launcher is kinda okay, but that only works if you have a vet to feed you more grenades.
If you're considering the bistol in the first place, just look at the revolver instead, at least that has fuckloads of cleave and benefits from having infinite ammo more since its primary major downside is completely negated. Now you just have to reload speed maxx which scum does by existing.
Needler is still the best weapon for non-despacito builds.

when are they going to add a DLC class that gives gold toughness

>>550433884
I'm waiting for the inevitable aura that gives 1 gold toughness while in coherency to be hilariously OP

>>550430439
Really depends. Any military confrontation obviously ends in a wash in the Imperium’s favor. The Na’vi/planet itself already struggles to fend off an invading polity several times less advanced and impressive than the Imperium. There’s lots of natural resources they could make use of. With some effort they could turn it into a habitable world but the heavy gasses requiring everyone to wear a gas mask is kind of a roadblock.

Thanks to fatshark "generosity", I can buy one singular weapon reskin
If I get a skin that multiple classes can use like a chainaxe, can I wear it on any class?

>>550434659
Yes

>>550433998
One of these days FS going to release a balance patch that absolutely fucks the game up.
>We overhauled the toughness/dodging/combat system bc it was too op :)
It's going to be the winds of magic combat balance patch of Darktide

>>550435942
that already happened and it was p13
>but it added so much good stuff!
it also introduced gamebreaking toughness gen to every class the game is a joke now and havoc is their piss poor desperate attempt to make it difficult again (it's not you just play it like it's a WoW dungeon and bring specific skills)

>vet on the team
>interact with ammo pack
>don't replenish grenades
the jews are right, we really are cattle

auric maelstrom is funny the game will just spawn literal waves of mutants and crushers at you

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Is the flamethrower supposed to be bad in darktide?

>flame particles don't hit what they visually are on the screen
>wtf is a direct hit?
>flame particle somehow bad enough that aiming at enemies moving horizontally can dodge unscathed
>zero stagger (or maybe the hits aren't registering)
>flame particles are ugly
>have to cycle the weapon, even when hit by a melee attack (hurrr being stabbed by a grunt turns the safety back on)

maybe DRG spoiled me, but it's seamless in DRG to just use it, enemies die on screen

>>550430439
They kill the xenos. When the planet's fauna fights back, they virus bomb the planet then send miners down to strip it clean of all valuable minerals.

>>550437619
The flamethrower is very strong in Darktide. But the visual mismatch between the cone and actual AOE is retarded.
>zero stagger
Left click. Especially with the stagger blessing, this causes a lot of stagger.

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>the joke used to be that darktide wasn't a 40k game, it was a game about homeless meth addicts wielding rusty metal shivs stabbing zombies
>that's now unironically true

>>550423214
It was downright detrimental before the latest fix but now it's supposedly okay. +50% dodging state exists only to compensate for halved dodge duration (this is how they increase speed) so it effectively does nothing. I don't think this node is important to have, scum is starved for points. I prefer regained posture and jittery, because I use d-claw and you need to recover stamina quickly when you parry.

>>550424837
3 wounds always. 2/7 wounds is more hp than 1/6 wounds, and revenant recovers exactly 2/7 hp, martyrdom is designed to work with 7 wounds.

>>550430439
It’s really nothing special at the end of the day
The Na’vi are pretty standard Xenos, the wildlife while dangerous can be defeated, might even be looking at an Ambull situation where they’re weaponized and shipped across the Imperium, the environments are lush and pretty but not on the level of say a Pleasure World, the only thing of any real note is the seemingly sentient hivemind that controls everything which the Biologis and shit would definitely want to look into and do experiments with (in addition to the rest of the world)
Besides that, the standard resource extraction would commence, any resistance violently put down, etc.

with the disable screen effects mod, which effect is warp siphon?

>>550440285
Fuck off, retard

>>550441106
Did you read kulis guide today? Go read kulis guide again and calm down, idiot.

>>550441667
Kill yourself

>>550430439
Whole planet could be subjugated by a single chapter of spess marines without issue. They can barely fend off a small expeditionary force of regular guys with regular guns. And that's only in the movies. So far it's been shown that the humans in that setting are winning by a huge margin off screen.

>>550441905
A nerve was struck. Don't forget to reply to my post twice because samefagging makes you win an argument.

>>550442179
Sounds like some guy keeps destroying you and now you're afraid that everyone who slaps you down is that same guy coming to finish you off

>>550442319
Honestly I was only half confident it's you but you come out so easily it's not even funny anymore. It's like bullying a kid. Sorry, I'll restrain myself. Maybe.

>>550442520
>Sorry, I'll restrain myself.
Hopefully you're talking about putting your restrain jacket back on, because it sounds like that guy really mindbroke you to the point of insanity

How come nobody ever comments on the guy who mass-replies to like 7 posts and says "this made me lol" or "you fucking raped that guys brain out of his asshole"

>>550442929
>why nobody comments on samefagging
are you new

>>550442929
>you fucking raped that guys brain out of his asshole"
I bet he said that to someone who cocksmacked you and you're still salty about it

>>550442179
he's right though

Do lasguns and auto guns ever feel better, or am I just shit at using em

>>550443360
The infantry lasguns feel lame at higher difficulties but the vraks infantry autogun feels good all the way up to aurics with the right class

>>550443360
They used to be good earlier in the games lifespan when shooters and gunners were the biggest threats on the map. Now that it's all carapace spam, they're pretty useless.

>>550442929
/soc/posting is to be pitied, not engaged with

>>550443360
Autoguns don't
Lasguns are alright, their strength is in high ammo pool (both giant magazine and reserve) and high finesse. They scale really well with weakspot hits and crits. Plus have burn blessing for bossing, or in case of infantry lasgun, deadly accurate for even more finesse scaling.
Their base dps is below average, but they do have a niche.

>>550443360
Vraks Infantry autogun is good on Executioner Stance Veteran, but ammo hungry. And amazing on Hive Scum, easily competing for best Desperado gun

Infantry lasguns are in a rough spot between the faster firing recon and the just generally better laspistol. But still viable with a larger ammo pool, if you're prepared to click a lot (or use the full auto mod). Marksman's Focus Veteran can help them to shine a bit more.

>>550443723
Oh look. The boring little streetshitter wants attention too

>>550443505
>>550443508
>>550443601
>>550443868
Thanks!
Melees been really fun, but the rifles just feel off. I look forward to giving them another go though.

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If i get home and my ip range is still image banned, I'm going to kill myself

>>550444238
Why am i not surprised by the fact that women call you a boring, attention hungry streetshitter too?

>>550444317
lol you just whipped his brown ass like the uppity little slave that he is

>>550444450
The reason you don't try harder is because you know that i'll tear you from ass to balls no matter how hard you struggle against me

>>550444585
woman coded post

>>550443723
>>550444238
>>550444450
>>550444840
>spamming/flooding
Thanks for playing, turdboy

>>550430439
the fact that it’s a planet with conditions and environments remarkably similar to (old) terra able to harbor life minus a hostile atmosphere (which can be remedied) alone means it would definitely be put on the list of things to conquer/settle/colonize, but nowhere near the top by any means. honestly, i think something the had a good chance of happening (worst case scenario) is they schedule it for strip-mining and xenocide, and the paperwork for it is lost for 500 years (at least). when they return, they find that eywa has given the na'vi a software and hardware update and made each of them as strong as an astartes and as fast as an eldar. they’ve colonized their surrounding pocket of space with biotech and eywa is now a burgeoning minor warp entity. kinda like a toned down version of what happened with the tau. could still be conquered and defeated but probably not worth the effort in the long run.

SHIVS ARE THE MOST USELESS MELEE EVER
CROWBARS ARE WHERE ITS AT

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>>550445876
Ah yes, "Crowbar." One of Hive Scum's supposed other class unique melee weapons. We have dismissed that claim.

>>550445876
shivs are great though just spam lights with maxed out crit. you can get like 80%, crit on the things its op

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>ranged scum is meta, melee scum sucks

>>550446479
post build

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i play club ogryn. what's the m1 spam weapon for the other characters

>>550445876
I honestly can't figure out how to make the crowbar work nearly as well. Shivs have better outright killing power, the only thing they do worse is control hordes.

>>550446479
ok now post the full video where you probably had to do a highly situational setup with extremely tight timing on hyper-violence, and not just a damage number without context?

Melee scum sucks?
*fires rocket at chaos spawn*
Then how do you explain THAT?

What is the fastest way to farm Daimantine?
I have 5 million credits and 100,000 of the other resource but 8 fucking diamantine

>>550447678
How do I explain 3 rockets not killing a chaos spawn? They suck at bossing, duh.

>>550447575
>zealot
Martyrdom fury of the faithful with heavy eviscerator or chax.
>arbiter
Shield with break the line/forceful. Hilariously overtuned lights.
>psyker
Scriers with force greatsword. The normal force swords are absurdly strong but require you to learn unwieldy chains to get the most out of them.

>>550447681
Fucking how
I have 20k monies, but 600k plasteel and 900k diamantine.

>>550447929
I haven't bought any of the free shop stuff and am trying to get one of each weapon up to where I want it per character. Daimantine is exorbitantly used for all upgrades/edits. I don't even fuck around - the weapons I do have maxed have been untouched in setup for months/years outside major patch changes. I ran out even with the 4k from the event after I got my dual wield desperado setup and my crowbar crackhead build going.

>>550447929
I am spamming aurics and maybe get 3-400 per run. Its fucking slow as shit. Mortis Trials sucks dick for daimantine, I know that much.

>>550447575
HiV cum = crowbar with rampage, adrenaline and crit stacking with flat strength crit and flat cdr stim.

What keystone do i even take into havoc with a crate build?
Chem dependency?

>>550448381
Do your havoc 40 once a week to claim your stimulus check, it gives you like 30,000 diamantine for one mission every week

>>550447575
all of them are "hold m1 to win" if you install skitarius and enter desired combo
though it's better to set up separate keys for horde clear combo and strikedown combo

>>550451235
Missed reset and since I am in Australia there is no one even looking for games.

>>550447575
Rashad on all classes is m1 spam at anything except carapace. Against carapace you need heavy attacks.

i don't care how many people say the dog shock ability is bad. its so rare that i actually get to find and take grenades that it makes arbites grenade and mine not worth it.

it's probably not the greatest but I'm having fun taking the speed stimm flavor and hitting things with the crowbar very quickly like Half Life 1 Gordon

>>550452523
There needs to be a sound effect replacer mod for the crowbar already. Also stim crate effects stack with each other.

>>550452060
What's the closest alive server to you?
I'm an NA fag but I have to queue into yurop because I'm on night shift. 120 ping is still playable on psyker

auto tag with focus target?

>>550453000
Retagging something resets the mark so don't do that

>>550434198
>With some effort they could turn it into a habitable world but the heavy gasses requiring everyone to wear a gas mask is kind of a roadblock.
mate we're talking about 40k
having to only wear a gas mask means it'd be one of the nicer mining worlds in the imperium

>>550452697
I wish I got 120. I have 200+ to Japan/NA or 350 to EU

>>550452279
scum may have infinite ammo, but they are also Chem-Can and bazooka addicts

Not looking forward to whatever tide game comes next feels like they're going to pull a Fromsoft Dark Souls "hardest game ever" by constantly upping the difficulty. Like they could make Vermintide again but the rats will have even more armor and guns.

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>>550455182
the rats are actually missing quite a few guns in vermintide compared to what they actually have available to them in the setting

>>550455182
darktide is hard nowadays????

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>>550455471
>start mission
>1/100 chance a doomrocket lands on your head and instagibs the whole party

am bored of the other classes, convince me to not buy hive scum

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shart

>>550456105
If I install vermintide today, do I get all the christmas event cosmetics if I log in?

>>550456184
I think there's like a 3 day time window to claim each

>>550455484
depending on team comp, yes

>>550455938
I gotchu senpai.
You're bad at the game and can't play the class with the least amount of crutches.
Moving fast gives you motion sickness.
The only weapon you want to use is the dual pistols, not the powerful needler and SMGs.

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>>550457308

>>550430439
Pandora ain't got shit on death worlds like Catachan

>>550456339
Damn

>>550455938
If you're bored of the "classes" and see spending money on a new class as the only way to have fun, you are actually just bored of the game and in the final stages before qutting.

>>550443360
use agripinaa infantry autogun, its extremely stable precise so you rack up headshots even on full auto

>>550440285
>2/7 wounds is more hp than 1/6 wounds
why not just take 2 wounds and 1HP curio, if you care about HP? They redesigned martyrdom to work with 6 wounds, not 7.
Sounds like you're spending a whole curio to make holy revenant slightly easier to lean on.

>>550457368
sorry but you asked for it :^(

>>550457308
It takes more skill to play ogryn than to play hive scum.

>>550458006
It takes a lot of skill to avoid falling asleep at the wheel yes.

Test

>>550459267
learning the new captcha?

>>550459308
Caught a three day for making fun of Indians in /coopg/.

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>>550458412
No, it does take actual skill.
With hive scum you just pop desperado or take vulture's dodge and you quite literally no longer need to even dodge.
Unlike ogryn who still needs to dodge and needs to know what battles he can take.
It's the reason why you see so many shitty ogryn players who die constantly.

>>550459428
The hack of 4chan earlier this year revealed that the majority of posters were Indian, Israeli, or South American.

>>550451235
That's where all the diamantine is? That's insane fuck now I need to get friends to play with me. Party finder is such a meme.
70,000 plasteel and constantly having to grind out diamantine. Bust my ass in an Auric that takes over half an hour and get to leave with 105 diamantine. What a sick joke.

>>550460069
Yeah. It made me role my eyes at how predictable they are.

I wish I had started playing after the Hadron reshuffle, and kept the same number of hours. I'd have maxed out dockets and millions of resources. Fuckers made me gamba my life savings away repeatedly. Tens of millions of dockets and millions of resources, all gone.

>>550454695
even before hivescum, even if no one else on the team is even using grenades, it seems like they're just a rare drop.

>>550459494
Yeah, because nobody has seen hiv janitors dying left and right, all the time since the release
kek

>>550461728
I have toned down how much I've been playing since HIV came out, and I noticed the rampant deaths like everyone else. Then that hit a trough as plebs fled and got hard stuck. Eventually it evened out so that pretty much every HIV player I find is decent, and the few who are bad stand out like a sore thumb.

>>550461728
I've noticed them dying a lot less, probably a combination of people learning to play them and their two "oh shit, I lost all my toughness to ranged enemies, can I get a freebie" nodes are now right down the fucking middle

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How do I farm this shit besides the weekly havoc reward
Is spamming the twins mission with bell shortcut and instadying/qutting a somehow viable strategy?

>>550461728
It's getting better now at least.

>>550462282
>quickplay auric
>type in chat: "pls take diamantine if you see it, i'm poor"
Also I've heard mortis trials gives a lot of resources upon completion.

>>550462282
Run the AIO mod, set distance to max, you can now see all the resources if you get within 60 meters of them. Walk away with a shitload each game, and boost it further with QPs. It means you need to pick it up, sure, but you want it, right?

>>550463141
And some of you wonder why there's always retards in QP who stray so far away and need constant rescuing. You're better off playing normally and spamming QP, not going so far out of your way.

>>550463230
Don't be bad? I can solo Aurics pretty easily, and if you need resources this badly you'll learn how to do that as well or not and then you should just uninstall if you can't.

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>>550463141
is that Fatshark sanctioned
a lot of mods make me think this actually

>>550462487
>>550463141
Thanks, I have that mod already so I think I'll just try to farm QPs

>>550463458
Yes, it's made by a very prolific modder who is also a faggot on the Discord. If they told him to take shit down, he would without second guessing.

>ledge myself twice because I am using Nimble now
AAYYYYYY FATUSHARKU

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>>550464836
You need to be getting faster

>spent all my milkcoins
>all dogshit curios
AAAAIIIIEEEEE

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>>550430439
Horrors beyond imagining

>>550463230
>see one of these idiots
>just laze about with the bots until others QP in
>they are picking up every crafting material their little mitts can touch
>they eventually go down
>in no real rush make my way to them and pick them up
>they continue running off, picking the map clean of crafting materials
>people have eventually qpd in
>finish mission in a lackadaisical fashion
>they actually gg
Love these guys but also wonder what kind of meth/adderall combo they are on.

dear god it's been hard since this month to play anything above damnation, why do the low IQ chinese niggerinsects, slavnigs, and other general shitter/subhumanoids play this game if their brains aren't built for any sort of cooperation

>>550469976
What is the left-most faction there? Reminds me of some wraith kind-of thing from fantasy (VCounts have some things like this).

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>>550470238
smegmar ghosts

nigga heil nagash

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>>550470415
Ah, AoS, I still forget this exists. Faction is 'Nighthaunt'.

Kerillian VA Arbitrator reminds me of Heinkel from Hellsing

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why is this penance in the game man i dont want to use my stim like a shield pack by playing badly on purpose

>>550471169
You WILL play the game, in its entirety for basic bitch cosmetics, and you WILL like it.

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DO NOT SPEND YOU MELKBUCKS!!!
FATSHARK IS CONSIDERING A WAY FOR PLAYERS TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR AQUILAS!!!

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It's what I would say if Fatshark weren't greedy jews...

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>>550471378
>considering

>>550470942
I think she does a good job as an arbitrator.
Also have noticed that fem Maul seems to like the ogryns.

>>550471378
Wouldn't be a bad solution to make Melk have a purpose again.
But since it is a good idea, it is unlikely Fatshit's management would ever allow it.

>Fatshit wanted to do orcs
>GW says naw
Which is worse I really can't tell

>>550470942
>>550471798
I only played a tiny bit of VT way back when it was new, so to me her voice is primarily Dookie Dreadlord voice, which is already a little strange to hear her in Darktide. But more-so I'm struggling to imagine her voice being for an Asrai (as is the case in VT). And agreed she does a good job as Arbitrator. Good voice, lines, attitude overall.

>>550472008
>we want orks
>well they are a packaged deal with ultramarines
>we DON'T want to do ultramarines
>WELL GUESS THE FUCK WOT

>>550472008
>>Fatshit wanted to do orcs
When? New leaks or interviews?

>>550472087
my beloved told me

>>550471973
The sole purpose for melk should be good curios but he sucks even at that beyond his gacha machine.

>>550472325
Did he tell if'll get new weapons in the next update?

>>550471559
>implying

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>>550472417
you get busted up Bosch circular saw for Scum
foldable chair for ogryn
sourced: my beloved

>>550472376
He should be both curios and aquilas.
Like just make the exchange rate for melk bucks to aquilas like 1000 tokens = 200 aquilas.

Would actually give a tangible reason to actively do and give a shit about weekly contracts.

>>550472659
Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah.
Fartshart would be financially retarded allowing free currency to be exchanged for premium currency. And I personally HATE premium currencies in video games. The issue with tide is no weapon is worth trading for. None. Even a really good curio is virtually worthless. Games like Warframe have a model that permits premium currency to be traded with players for goods that cannot be purchased, but instead MUST be acquired with playtime. Darktide doesn't have this. You just want premium stuff for free.

>>550471169
>why is this penance in the game
Many games use their achievements as an incentive structure to encourage players to try out new play styles or learn new mechanics. Think of it as
>Hey, did you know you can restore toughness with your stimm?
This both encourages you to use the top left branch of the stimm, as well as the bottom right keystone with the toughness node, to reach 100% toughness restored.

What you should really be asking is:
>Why the fuck did fatshark deem it a good idea to tie toughness restoration to a slow-ass animation on a class with low total toughness and few sources of damage reduction
>on a class with two abilities that just insta refill your toughness anyway
To which the answer is probably as simple as "malice difficulty".

>>550472659
>incentivize FOMO addicts boosting your concurrents
>reward long time players with 15 dollar made in china drip
>get everyone else hooked on smaller increments of purchase (like the store is already geared around with its denominations of aquilas that don't evenly match prices)
Trading existing melkbucks is unrealistic but if they swapped over to
>do all weeklies on a class = 15 aquilas
they might finally catch up to a level of fairness and exploitation gacha games figured out a decade ago.

>>550473286
>>do all weeklies on a class = 15 aquilas
Actually evil.

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>Cosmetics suck! They're slop! so ugly oooooo stinky!
>plz fatshark gib them to me for free :,(
Thirdies, everyone.

>>550473286
15 aquilas is too small. It should be 100 or at least 50.

if I had infinite money there's still only like one singular cosmetic piece per slot I'd actually care to buy, and fatshark won't even let me

>>550473698
There's different people with different opinions.

>>550473967
>double or even triple the price of all cosmetics
>make all of them available at all times
>keep the FOMO store EXACTLY the way it is, except it's just items with a huge discount on them, 50-67% price reduction
Fatshark should hire me

>>550473967
Yep, similar for me. The fact that the store is still rotational after all these years and sweet fuck-all ever gets on there per rotation ensures I have zero interest in whatever cosmetics and aquilla nonsense. Beyond worthless proposition.

>>550474038
We are all one.

Orktide would have done numbers GW is rarted

>>550473698
>you wouldn't pay money for a thing but you would accept it for free, this means you secretly desire to pay money for it and envy me for doing so
The mind of a piggie is incomprehensible to sane men.

>>550474116
>take a shit system and make it substantially worse
Swedish designer for sure.

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what is this pitslut outfit and when was the last time it showed up

>>550474463
>the tubes are there to keep you from slipping out

Speaking of slut outfits, how much of such can you make hive scums? This is Fatshart's prime opportunity to cater more to such a crowd.

>>550472087
In an interview
I'm at work but I'll look it up when I get home it was one of the more recent ones
I bet fatshit wants to do a hell of a lot more in darktide as well but gets shot down

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does the other variant of this thing even exist
i rolled 20 times probably?

>>550475410
You know you can change marks just by leveling up, right?

>>550475410
>>550475469
kek

>>550475469
as in the mk on it?
i haven't played this in ages, mb

>>550475410
Based retard

>>550475779
Hey anon, this is co-operative games general, not angry anon general :)

hey i'm sorry the game is CASUALIZED now
and why would THAT be the only way to change it HUH thats right fuck you

>>550475937
Getting rid of Brunt's endgame casino is not casualizing the game fag

How did the casino treat you on launch did you guys win the BM Antax

>Playing malice because no one had plasteel
God it was so fucked

>>550476593
Surprisingly very well but I loathed the old system. I had nigh-perfect weapon for every slot (good weapons that I sought after) for all 4 classes. They'd still be good today barring the optimal 80/80/80/80/60 split, as they had like 75 here and there instead or so. I remember power cycler being so rare, too.

>>550475410
Hehe

>>550475410
lol

>buy coop game
>double xp event ended a few weeks ago
Hard to keep track of all this shit when you don't own the game

>>550472087
>“Every single interview [Andersson] will talk about Orks, but it's not their time yet,” says Martin Wahlund, co-founder of Fatshark. “At some point they will matter, I promise you, but I don't know when... We see this as a long, continuous journey, so to speak, that we want to build over time.”

Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/warhammer-40k-darktide-bolter-indomitus-details

>>550480306
logical, GW sees vidya just as a way to sell more figures. Orks will probably be more pushed once they got new shit to sell to scalpers

>>550480306
It was much easier to make chaos the enemy faction since they could recycle a ton of shit from vermintide.

>>550480452
The only unit you can buy for the board game are the pox walkers.

>>550481016
Is there an aquila body tattoo also?

>>550469976
unironically looks tasty

>>550471378
Fatshark is still considering releasing a non-bogged 1.0 version of the game, apparently.

>>550481243
>apparently.
is there a new statement or something

Hypothetically

>>550430439
Just got my tickets for this movie. Hope it’s good

Does No Stopping Me work on Ogryn or do you still feel slow and shitty charging heavies

>>550469976
There’s literally a fantasy figure on the left so not really

>>550457368
mating press breeding sexxo with ruby (season 1)
>>550455471
>>550455873
>end of mission
>a doom wheel pops out of nowhere and flattens you

>>550482824
I use it with the shield because that thing only makes heavy attacks, it's quite comfy being able to sprint during.

>>550482970
yeah I mena. I can imagine all of that horror.

>>550482824
It makes you quite mobile when using the karsolas and allows you to generally use ogryn weapons without learning complicated movetech

>>550482824
It works, but it isn't necessary.
I use the shield mainly and I do just fine with out it.

>>550483247
>it's quite comfy being able to sprint during.
Sprint during what?

>>550485112
The act of making heavy attacks, ESL-kun.

>>550476593
i had 380s of everything with perfect dump stat rolls, still hated it

>>550485226
There's nothing about that post that indicates ESL, you deranged psycho.
>sprint during heavy attacks

>>550485427
not him but he called you ESL because his sentence back-referred to heavy attacks and you failed to understand it. You can phrase a statement like that in English:
>I like to drink some water, then dance after
to which you responded
>DANCE AFTER WHAT?

Hope you don't get mad at me now

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>>550485427
If you time it right you can drain your stamina while charging heavies, but this does not make you faster whatsoever (easily verified by just testing it). Tap sprint the instant before charging heavy and you won't move any faster, but will drain your stamina. I don't remember if this used to work or not, but it doesn't now/anymore. At least with the shield (as they specify shield), no idea if there are some exceptions to this in regards to a different weapon working differently but I doubt it, but, this is Swededev coding we're talking about here.

Guessing little anon got baited by seeing stamina bar drain and taking complete faith in Swededevs and presuming they're sprinting when they're actually not. Gotta love /copeg/ retardation as usual.
>>550485226
Retard.

>>550486306
It's evidently more to clarity as the original guy talking about sprint heavies is incorrect. You're only outing yourself as one who projects as you fail such basic communication. You ought to clarify or ask before immediately going on the offense.

>>550486515
>not him
thats 2 for 2 on not comprehending text properly, and you wonder why people call you ESL

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>>550486337
>>550486515
>Gotta love /copeg/ retardation as usual.
Correct, because you are so confidently fucking wrong, you retard lmfao
>speedometer mod
>walking heavy attack start: 4.0 units
>walking heavy attack lunge: ~5.9 units, quickly decaying
>sprinting heavy attack start: 5.0 units
>sprinting heavy attack lunge: 7.49 units, quickly decaying
>out of stamina sprinting heavy attack start: ~4.8 units
>out of stamina sprinting heavy attack lunge: 7.16 units, quickly decaying
Vidrel at 20% playback
Shut the fuck up about things you don't have even the slightest clue about, misinformation faggot

I'd rather have the moniker of "ESL" than associate myself with these 2 bickering nincompoops

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Give me literally even just one good reason why slab shield shouldn't let you move with it deployed.
I want to be able to do cool shield charges into heavy gunlines with a gigantic shield like it would make sense to do
Instead I have to chain sprinting slides like an spastic adhd apex legends character

>>550487058
That post >>550486515 is specifically criticising >>550486306 correctly. So ergo, again, you're the projecting ESL. Now that we've established sprint heavies don't work (at least with shield), and how you can't read for shit, we can put this garbage to rest. Read from the top (evidentially you've yet to) instead in future when you feel the urge to (shit)post.
No more (you)s.
>>550487441
Check the distance (no difference and coincidentally you didn't measure or check or even mention). Good job wasting all of your stamina for nothing. Time to filter out people with that talent.
>>550487593
True. I'd rather be (mis)labelled ESL by two chronic retards than be the retard. Wise and simple.

>>550487712
Because you hold RMB to move with it if you want your shield up too.
>but that's not deployed
And what does "deployed" mean, ESL retard? If you could move when it's deployed, what's the point of regular RMB block then. Real Euro hours.

>>550487714
>Check the distance
Anon, that mod measures the player's speed based on locomotion_system.
>ScriptUnit.has_extension(player_unit, "locomotion_system")
>velocity = locomotion_extension:current_velocity()
In layman's terms, it calculates air speed, not axle speed. It literally measures how much you have moved. No other proof is necessary to prove that you are wrong and retarded.

>>550487441
he's gonna gaslight you now but I'm grateful you tested and posted proof king

>>550488041
He already did in >>550487714 to preserve his izzat.

Why it's always a "french faggot playing like an absolute shitter episode"?

Slab shield with cleaver.

>>550487714
I cannot believe one man (generous term) can be this resilient to learning

>>550488341
make it cutting board (oversized) and we have a deal

>>550488041
>proof
you can just otherwise try it yourself but of course most posters here don't play games

>>550488391
>says the anon who doesn't test or play anything himself

>>550489108
Proof anon here.
I didn't bother displaying distance traveled because it's not only difficult to do, but would also likely require some elaborate setup to be well and truly impossible to deny for a 70 IQ izzat-addicted troglodyte. I don't really care to invest that much effort to prove some Canadian wrong enough to commit suicide. Anyone intelligent enough to look at the mod's source code will immediately accept the video as sufficient proof, and if misinfo retards want to have a melty over it, that's their problem.

>>550487441
You just destroyed that fucking retard

>>550489427
Yep, so your tiny video is worthless. You haphazardly post some numbers but completely disregard anything to do with distance (and you now admit it). No one you never see people mention sprint heavies until now because it doesn't work outside of wasting stamina as you do not go further. Such a huge increase in numbers, too,
>~5.9 vs 7.49, surely this'll be easy to see a difference!
Turns out, there's no difference.

>>550489754
Anon, ScriptUnit.has_extension(player_unit, "locomotion_system"):current_velocity() calculates your air speed. A movement teching scum rockets through the air at some 12~14 units or something silly like that. Being thrown by a barrel also rockets you at >10 units. The numerical proof is right there. You just need pretty pictures to spell it out for you because you are profoundly retarded.

>>550489427
You just shat down his neck hole

>>550489754
>No one
No wonder*
Incase there's anybody later on who isn't sure who is correct or what works, you can easily verify this in-game yourself. I know it's hard, as vast majority of people on /vg/ don't actually play the games of the generals they fester in, and it then also means having to look for yourself instead of being spoonfed arbitrary nonsense by an overly-aggressive arrogant retard, but, see for yourself. As shown here: >>550489754
Such a huge increase in numbers, this would surely mean you can see a huge difference in distance too (you see none).

>>550489909
You just raped his asshole and then forced him to suck his own shit off your cock

>>550488981
No anon I dont need to "just otherwise try it myself" (holy esl shitskin) because the other anon who proved you wrong did it already

>>550490359
>otherwise try it yourself
pkay,
>otherwise, try it yourself
you're too busy being an esl and calling others esl to even bother playing the game at all

I justed tested it and you are much faster with no stopping me
Why is this browngroid spreading misinformation?

>>550490617
>you can just otherwise, try it yourself but
You think this is a correction that makes it not ESL drivel? lmao

Darktide is the only multiplayer game I play so I don't know about other games, but I'm often amazed by some people behaving like straight absolute niggers, not bad, nor noob (that would be excusable), but NIGGERS: taking ammo when they're full, keeping the health stim when someone else needs it, taking all their sweet time to save a teammate in a net or ledged. I don't know what goes trough their mind... when I see a teammate in a net it's usually my priority, it should be obvious? no?

>>550490617
kek
>>550490359
Are you really calling someone "esl shitskin" over a comma? This place truly is fucked. Did this place really get so bad post-Helldivers split?
>>550490687
The point is distance with heavy attacks, not if the talent works (this was never contentious).
>>550490712
Ah you're just being a retard for the sake of it, as usual.

>>550490687
unironically izzat. I seriously believe it now. I thought it was bullshit but this sperg fucking whining in broken english about how the proof is fake is proving that izzat is a real concept to me. The literal only reason he's doing this is because he spouted misinfo and the correction wounded his pride, now he's on the fucking warpath

>>550490761
No surprise, take a look at this dump of a general. kfg was never this bad. Apparently hdg is never this bad. Something about 40k just destroys communities. I bet /twg/ will tank when TW40k hits (Emperor bless that poor general).

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>>550470583
Kek
>>550470942
I don’t hear it at all but now that you mention it I kinda want a Yumi-esque voice in the game or even a Schrödinger kind

Just wanted to know if I could use the Branx pick without the WEIGHTY and HEAVY (bad) movement that's characteristic to playing ogryn thanks

>>550490687
>many posts constantly talk about distance and heavy attacks
>you neglect all of this and revise history to say it's about if the talent works
Holy ESL.
>>550491087
Yes, anon, the talent works for what you want. Again, as you're all allergic to it and insist on being spoonfed: test it and you will instantly see it works. I do not understand why this general is hellbent on not playing games but talking about them (granted all of /vg/ is the same).

>>550472618
don’t give them ideas
>>550481016
ugly fucker
>>550490987
at least 80 percent of it is ratfags though

>>550491003
It's close enough she just isn't doing the comic German accent

>>550491336
>40k
>ratfags
Hmm.
>though
Doesn't matter, end result is all the same. 40k = poison (sadly).

>>550491230
You travel longer distances when you travel faster within the same timeframe. Why are you so fucking brown and retarded?

>>550457895
I think you have more available health with 3 wounds than 2 wounds + HP, but I can't get on to check.
>200/7 ~= 28
>28*2=56
>240/6 = 40

>>550491503
Except that doesn't happen. Check for yourself. Oh wait, you're too lazy to. Well, RIP for you, anon. Keep wasting your time though, I'm sure you will continue to do so!

>>550491512
And if one of two of those wounds is corrupted (much easier with 3w than 2w+whatever) you're extra fucked. I'd still say 2w+1t, has always been what I ran since day 1, I thought this is the obvious one. Or, 2w+1s. 3w or 2w+1h sounds dumb but I'll concede I no longer use Martyrdom as Piety is just better anyway.

>>550490987
>implying /twg/ didn’t already tank when tww hit
lol

>>550491649
I checked for myself and my findings aligned 1:1 with what >>550487441 posted, so I'm just posting this to confirm

>>550491952
I disagree, as histfags were always insane and insufferable. I think since tww became a thing they now have a common enemy. Histposts (they are rare) don't get abused, but histfags occasionally have a meltdown out of the blue so I'm still inclined to say that histfags are still victimhood complex faggots as they always have been.

>>550492121
thats usually just the troonguard from crpg, or its /gsg/

>>550491882
How much corruption are you huffing, anon? I don't think I ever got corrupted like that in H40 unless I ate an overhead, in which case it doesn't matter what your bars look like. But I don't play Havoc anymore anyway.
>2w+1t
That wasn't what I was replying to. I wasn't arguing for which option is best. There're strong arguments to be made for both 3w and 2w+1t.

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You know you don't have to reply to obvious engagement bait / ragebaiting.
There are better ways to keep the thread alive than to argue pointless semantics or obvious bait that has nothing to do with any of the listed coop games with extreme fervor.

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I just tested it over and over again to see what you were talking about and you travel significantly further with no stopping me when you sprint during a heavy attack. I don't know wtf that retard is on about

>>550491503
I'm seriously fucking apalled someone as retarded as him could get past the new captcha. Not understanding the relation between speed and distance has got to be some actual mental disability thing

>>550492471
>Corruption
Again, I don't use martyrdom as piety is better. But majority of martyrdoms I see (as most zealots are unfortunately still martyrsubs) are at 1 empty wound and 1 corrupted wound. The blight modifier alone is very common. I often see zealots not using purity aura (I always keep it on but have an extra build ready for TDR aura incase there's 2 zealots but that's very rare). And I often see martyrsubs not using the corruption talent. And of course, the lowest priority, they don't use corruption on curios. Again, I no longer use martyrdom, just going by what I see in-game (in missions), and when I inspect (I inspect an awful lot).

what's your favorite cozy talent not something that's meta or make or break in a build but something that just feels nice

>>550426605
That's not how he speaks

>>550492685
I'm glad they did because I'm happy people care enough to correct brown misinfo, it's the sign of a good and active community that tries to be helpful, no matter if the person who gets corrected appreciates it or not

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I actually really want the Canadian to commit suicide to preserve his izzat now, so I fired up a video editor real quick.
Here you go, Arjun. Left side is with No Stopping Me! and both are sprinting at full stamina. Check how the right side stops when initiating the attack, and how much further the left side travels past the Ø symbol.

>>550492974
>only one has stamina bar
Anon...

>>550492974
>>550492687
based. The last time someone got btfo this hard was when some faggot tried to claim shredders can kill crushers without rending

>>550492874
What a gay post.
The Ogryn thing that makes everyone run when I use my ability.

>>550493129
probably the same person

>>550493087
The stamina bar is only relevant for the side without NSM!. If you want to assume the left side is out of stamina, even better. You can still sprint without stamina. You know that, right? You play the game, right?

>>550492842
>not using Purity aura in corruption puddles
>no corruption ressist either
Certified retard moments for sure. If I were playing Havoc with Martyr, I'd at least take Purity + the corruption resist talent. If I were still regularly getting knocked down to a final wound by corruption, I think I'd have bigger problems than pissing about which final curio I should use. I'd need to reassess how I'm playing the fucking game at that point kek. Sounds like the majority of Martyr Zealots in Havoc are fucking idiots and/or shit at the game. To be fair, I'm not sure why you'd run Martyr in Havoc unless you were playing with friends. I'd rather run BP as well since it's safer and often better.

Unlesss the corruption in this cycle is way more aggressive than the way blight puddles and innate corruption-on-hit applied in cycle 1, there's no excuse for someone regularly getting that corrupted. That has nothing to do with curio blessing.

>>550443601
I honestly find infantry lasguns to be absolutely dog shit in every way except ammo economy, I guess.
Their flak damage is so low that maulers might as well be crushers

>>550492687
To clarify. I stood 20m from the crusher and then did a sprinting fully charged heavy attack towards it. I made it 12m every time with no stopping me and only 8m without no stopping me. It is very clear that you can sprint faster during heavy attacks with no stopping me

>take no stopping me
>try many runs of sprint+heavy and many runs of just heavy towards crusher
>start each run in the corner between stim table and ammo table
>same distance away from crusher each time (ping to check distance)
cool bait convo
don't @ me

>>550493662
>literal video proof
>still tries to gaslight others to preserve his izzat
Don't you have a beach to shit on?

>>550492912
Yes it is.

I wish the helbores didnt have such an unwieldy way of firing. I would prefer them to be low rate of fire guns without the charge mechanic entirely.

>>550493767
>post says to not @
>does it
Holy ESL...

got'em

>>550493525
are you shooting them in the head or the chest

>>550493662
You are either too retarded to test it properly or you are lying. Either way you should kill yourself

>>550493957
That's the only post that specifies some basic methodology for consistency. So if anything, you and the rest ought to kill yourselves. See how you fail at even considering something so basic? No, you won't. You can't, even. Too far up your own ass.

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My mouse broke does anyone have any mouse recommendations? Playing without side buttons is painful.

>>550493495
>To be fair, I'm not sure why you'd run Martyr in Havoc unless you were playing with friends. I'd rather run BP as well since it's safer and often better.
Martyrdom has the niche of allowing really, really massive hits on bosses with things like thammer and evis, even on chorus builds believe it or not. But to make martyrdom work, you do need purity aura and lots of corruption resist, because having such small wounds makes getting corrupted really easy.

>>550493930
Chest, hence the complaint about the god awful flak damage

>>550494069
Yeah perhaps go to /g/ and not off-topic post here.

>>550493841
If you're gonna be this wounded by people making fun of your english and calling you ESL, I recommend you learn english

>>550493662
>>550494043
>tries to cope with numbers after receiving numerical proof in >>550487441 and then saying the numbers aren't real
>tries to continue gaslighting after receiving moving picture proof in >>550492974

>>550493841
Shouldn’t it be izz@?

>>550494043
>That's the only post that specifies some basic methodology for consistency.
Video proof has been posted >>550492974

You can lie about your results in text (you are doing this), you can't lie about results in a direct video comparison

>>550494043
Someone already tested it you're wrong. Kill yourself

>>550494069
Buy a Zowie. Extremely simple by design since they are made for Koreans who only play ASSFAGGOTS and Star Craft, but they will last until the sun dies.

>>550494237
Not him but /g/ is unironically terrible for advice those tards are so busy bickering about something 24/7 they’ll just ignore you lol

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Is the upside worth the downsides?

>>550494746
No

I don't egt this argument to begin with. This is the talent description for no stopping me:
>Become uninterruptible while charging Heavy Melee Attacks. Remove 100% of Heavy Melee Attack Movement Speed penalties.
I checked kulis guide (which everyone should do when discussing talents before potentially embarrassing themselves) and it says it correctly applies the buff
>stat buff: weapon_action_movespeed_reduction_multiplier

The shield h1 clearly slows you down while using it. This talent clearly removes that.

Why exactly are we pretending it doesn't work? What am I reading

>>550494746
Nope. Just put ally revive speed on curios and manually pick them up while enemies are knocked down by Voice/frags.

>>550494746
It was usable in havoc before the CDR nerfs to vet + psykinetic aura. It was already considered a downgrade by many before the nerfs. It is definitely a downgrade now.

>>550494628
Better than here. It's just a mouse. Pick budget, ensure mouse has what you want and doesn't have what you don't want, check reviews on a few places, the end.
>>550494746
Definitely not. Good you have the other talent which is great, but that revive one is awful.

>>550493821
it should charge the shot passively when you ADS and fire when you press M1
having to hold down M1 and firing on release is cancer

>>550494746
it goes from 30 to 45s cd
you shouldnt be in a situation that requires you to revive people, thats indicative of more serious problems or you can be shouting more often and people go down less

>>550494861
It's whether or not sprint+heavy even lets you go further/faster than just heavy. It isn't about the talent. The talent obviously works when you charge heavies, you don't need any retarded counter cheat to show you that, hence, the topic was heavy vs sprint+heavy making a difference to distance.

>>550494861
>Why exactly are we pretending it doesn't work?
Brown anon was confidently, retardedly wrong and now needs to continue lying to preserve his izzat, because the only alternative is suicide and he's too much of a pussy to do that.
If you don't understand why this is a thing, educate yourself on what izzat means, and you will immediately understand.

>>550495059
Sprinting has been proven to make you faster in >>550487441

>>550495059
>It's whether or not sprint+heavy even lets you go further/faster than just heavy.
Yeah it was tested here >>550492974
again whats the problem? Why are we pretending it doesn't work? What is going on man