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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8910 - BFK edition

==NEWS==
>NiGHTS, Ai Ai, Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>550379648
Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbOQhAlnCcQ
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my wife, sage the sloth
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>>550436580
Based OP!
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>>550436862
Cream always getting forced into these is so funny. It's literally a Sonurge tier crackship.
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>>550436820
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>>550437058
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I, anon, have creampie sex with Hotshelter
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>>550436862
Cream always getting put into these is so kino. It's literally a top tier canonship. So is Fiona. It's especially kino when we get free replies for posting them.
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>>550436580
Im not a furry, Im not gay, and Im not a rapist but for some reason I really want to bend tails over and violate him while he begs me to stop and cries out for sonic to save him
I don't know why
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>Sonic has been a gary stu since Battle/X/Heroes
>Tails has been a total non-combatant since Unleashed, except for one cutscene where he was mind controlled by Eggman for less than a minute and one cutscene where he managed to get Zavok to retreat
>Knuckles has been a mediocre guardian since Riders, a game in which the Master Emerald isn't relevant, the whole world isn't at stake and Knuckles himself isn't present against his will
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>>550437226
>anon
*alota
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>literally marry tails
>ignored
>forgotten
>vaulted
>everyone points out they only got married in an au
>the same with sonally but for them it counts for some reason
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>>550437302
Jpfags will see this and blame the characters rather than Sonic Team for consciously making these decisions
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still the best ship
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>>550437316
jej
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It's kind of terrifying that we have someone who is actively stalking people on here. Thankfully I don't use social media but I feel bad for those of you who do.
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Why won’t they patch Frontiers for Switch 2? Even fucking Batman Arkham Knight got patched
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>>550437474
can someone tell me krack's address
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>>550437474
Nah, nothing will come of it in the long run.
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>>550436807 (me)
The ultimate problem with Tails in Sonic Forces is the culmination of the entire meta era, at its core.

The key reason why everyone has a problem with Tails in Sonic Forces is because the REAL, ACTUAL Tails was player 1.5 or Player 2, Sonic's actual sidekick in the game who can do what Sonic does, since his debut. His arc in the Adventure games reinforces that active player status, that he can fight on even when Sonic is gone. Sonic Forces is building on the foundation of Lost World, of Generations, of Colors, of UNLEASHED. Where the Post-06 status quo is that all of Sonic's friends are garbage, and ONLY Sonic should be playable ever. This hurt Tails' character most of all because this created a contradiction in his own status.

Tails has to be the sidekick following Sonic around, but he's not allowed to be playable. So now his fear is played up, his IQ is played up, but his strength and speed are practically erased. Basically Sonic X. Sonic Lost World was the absolute extreme of overdoing his "smart guy" role to the point that he's extremely arrogant, and Sonic Forces is the other extreme where the focus is all on his fear and sudden lack of fighting ability.

The character arc Tails actually goes through in Sonic Forces is severely hindered by the game's refusal to let him do anything. Contrast that with the Avatar who gets entire levels dedicated to being Sonic's partner IN-GAME. Tails is with Classic Sonic the whole time but this never amounts to ANYTHING in-game like it does for the Avatar. As far as we can SEE, Classic Sonic is doing everything, even if Tails is the one telling him where to go in-story.

We don't even get to see Tails fight in that big battle cutscene. Tails in Forces is introduced cowering, reappears cowering, and then just tags along as an NPC bystander never getting to truly make up for his lowest points. This is what makes Sonic Forces' depiction of Tails so inexcusable.
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>>550437474
It's not stalking when HotShelter posted it herself on twitter.
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Having sexual fantasies about Namefags is bad and it means you've been here too long
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>>550437495
Must not need it.
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>>550437495
Sega isnt allowed to anything specifically on Nintendo for Sonic as long as the Sony deal is in place
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>>550437226
Imagine how broken a person needs to be to take a pic holding a hugging pillow of a character from a kids game.
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>>550437280
>Im not a furry, Im not gay, and Im not a rapist but
[posts gay furry rapist fantasy]
Well at least you didn't deny being a pedophile
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>>550437671
Sometimes I dream about the OC's, but that's fine right?
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Douge
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>>550437815
Ultra autistic, I bet her parents are dissapointed that she'll have mulatto kids if she ever gets bred
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>>550437849
I think I've only had one dream that included Bump, and I didn't even get to kiss her, unlike that time with Amy.
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>>550437895
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>>550437495
There so fucking much to take in for those updates.
So if you release a Switch 2 Edition of a game still in print on Switch 1 you need a new physical release which goes against Sonys deal with Sonic
You can do just a straight patch for the game like the Nintendo first party games like Mario Odyssey did but then people on Switch 1 could patch it an get a relatively massive download for something they won’t be able to use anyway
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>>550437849
That depends on thee oh sees
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>>550437902
Taikles x his younger sister, Tikari
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>>550437985
[Spoiler]I hope Sans is okay.
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sparky reigns supreme
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Tails is a little bitch
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>>550437979
oof, better luck next time. Had a vivid dream about holding Amy's hand as a kid, that was nice.

>>550438034
see >>550437058 and >>550437193
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>>550438034
I want to fuck Roads' OC.
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>>550437985
How do I help troubled women with their hurt boobies?
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>>550438305
I dunno, lidocaine?
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>>550438305
I've heard massage is a good treatment.
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>>550437058
We need more drawfags who animate. This is sexy.
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>>550437985
>>550438159

>>550438305
Gentle kisses all over.
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Where is blueboard anon? The whiteboards are fucking shit.
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Shadow the Hedgehog is not romantically interested in anyone
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>>550438372
I've been trying to get better at it.
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What a mess, the Sonic MicroSD cards are actually too slow to use on Switch 2 and apparently the fucking 1TB cards, The Shadow ones, have fucking memory corruption issues.
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>>550438235
I've never had a blobian dream before. Every time I realize I'm dreaming I wake up.
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Simply put, Tails is "Player 2", or "1.5". If he is not filling THIS role, in gameplay and/or story, then he's not being "Tails".

Sonic & Tails = Batman & Robin, The Flash & Kid Flash. This is the standard, the baseline, the expectation. Sonic Forces had a perfect set-up in-theory. Sonic & the Avatar, Tails & Classic Sonic. And it failed to capitalize, on the Tails side. The entire Meta Era could have EASILY just been Sonic & Tails just like the classics, but they couldn't do even be allowed to do it.

All they gotta do is let Tails be playable and WRITE him like a playable character. Write him like someone who can do what Sonic can, and that's it.
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>>550438515
Nice, I can already jerk off to that.
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>>550438515
wild
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>>550438515
Nice!
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>>550438534
>The Shadow ones have fucking memory corruption issues
The universe does have a sense of humor after all
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>>550438515
PUT SOME BOOTS ON YOU SLUT
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>>550438546
You can train yourself to lucid dream, but it's a bit of a process and can mess with your head.
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There's one anon here who's cock I would suck and the rest of you are ugly
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>>550438661
If toes make you horny, that's on you bro
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>>550438729
prove it
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>>550437602
>The ultimate problem with Tails in Sonic Forces is the culmination of the entire meta era, at its core.
Now this is a point I disagree with however. You're sort of making the same mistake, by treating those games as if there was a bigger plan behind them, when in reality it was an uncoordinated mess of miscommunication. Forces is not quite the conclusion to the meta era. I think it's more accurate to say that it tried to end it. The thing about Tails being arrogant clearly wasn't planned at all, it's just a localization quirk by Pontac and Graff. They were told Tails is smart, so they made him arrogant, because that's a stereotype for smart people. Despite keeping Pontac and Graff on the localization, Forces was a clear attempt to break away from previous meta era games, at least in terms of writing and tone. I agree that the presentation ultimately fails because the gameplay is a part of that presentation and it's still based off the Unleashed and onward style of not allowing the other characters to be playable. Although, once again, you see Sonic Team's efforts to break away from that, by making the Avatar and Shadow playable. I think ultimately these problems came from Sonic Team vs SoA, combined with an overambitious premise they clearly didn't have the budget or resources for. But there are still some aspects of Forces that succeed as far as I'm concerned, and I like the general ideas. The complete disregard of anything Forces related is worse than the alternative. We could theoretically have an enhanced Forces, but we won't, because no one wants to consider the nuances of what that would mean or how it could be effectively realized. I like the Tails and Classic Sonic team up for example, but people's general mindset would ensure we could never see that again or improved upon.
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>>550438546
Don't do this >>550438729

It took me years to undo the damage
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>>550438714
I'd probably dream more if I stopped fapping so much.
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How the fuck did Tails of all characters become the hardest character to write in Sonic?
How did Boom do it right?
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>>550438823
Too late anon. I'm coming to suck your dick and you can't stop me.
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How to write Sonic: If it didn't happen in the games it's bad

How to write Shadow: If it didn't happen in the games it's bad

How to write Amy: Give up now

How to write Tails: If it happened in the games it's bad
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>>550438887
Because the west did it
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>>550438842
ill go like a month without fapping and still get nothing good
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>>550438842
Don't fap for a week or two, then see if your dreams get any better. I know mine do.
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>>550438887
He could actually do something.
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>>550438946
>How to write Tails: If it happened in the games it's bad
Only Unleashed and onwards. The ONLY exception is him outsmarting the deadly six
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>>550438729
Is it mine?
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How to write Sonic: Like SA2 or Black Knight
How to write Shadow: Like SA2 or Battle
How to write Amy: Like SA1, SA2, or Heroes
How to write Tails: physical like the classics, written like SA1 or SA2
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>>550439065
You just want to see the character succeed without accepting any downsides ever. But in the process of doing that you also ignore his other successes, like the ones he has in Forces, which you would know if you watched the video. But you'd rather be in denial over his low points instead, and ignore everything else.
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>>550438729
What if I showed you pictures of Shadow while you sucked?
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>>550439150
Sa2 and Black Knight are just putting Sonic in a dangerous situation and giving him a basic mission. His actual personality barely shines through the cracks.
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>>550439076
He would never ask. Never speak to me again.
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Okay Sparky, now you can continue your education journey by watching Randomfox's other video on Forces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xdepIrAcRc
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>>550439172
This anon makes a good point actually.
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Nintendo forgot about Sonic
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What if the Sonic 4 movie has Amy be le independent girlboss who don't need no man as well?
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Why do people refuse to watch Randomfox's videos? They are informative and well made.
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>>550439238
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I wish windfags would argue more often. It's more interesting this way.
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>>550438546
I genuinely feel sorry for you. I've had multiple dreams about blobians, usually just me lying in bed with cute blobian girls sleeping on top of me while I hug them tightly and feel them breathing. It's heaven.
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How’s your love life?
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>>550439397
Absolutely fine as long as we get a decent shower scene.
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>>550438569
You know there's multiple Robins and multiple Kid Flashes, right?
If Tails hypothetically did reach his Nightwing phase, who the hell would Sonic's Jason Todd be? God forbid we find out who his Damian Wayne is.
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>>550439507
um... im in a band?
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>>550439172
He has NO successes in Forces. Guiding Classic Sonic while doing nothing himself is not a success. He did that in Colors. He didn’t even get a SHRED of acknowledge pimento in the final battle of Forces while EVERYONE ELSE did. The opening scene literally puts him on the level of background NPC. These ARE too big of OOC examples to ignore and you don’t get to act smug by ignoring or downplaying them.
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What the fuck are you people even talking about
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Failure, cowardice, and uselessness are never accepted without exceptional triumphs over them
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>>550439496
Based.
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>>550439612
Hotshelter's fat pussy
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If you read his response you'll see Sparky admitted Randomfox was right after watching the video. Sparky only complained about the execution of the story, not the story itself.
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Fixed the stupid captcha issue where it says verification was required
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>>550439661
If the execution is bad the whole thing is bad. The execution IS the story
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>>550438887
It's simple.

Tails is Sonic's kid brother, who follows along and can do what Sonic does. As a kid brother, he's a bit timid at first but ultimately becomes more confident and courageous. He's also super smart, and loves tinkering with technology.

The problem becomes when you try and remove his "Player 2" status. All of his ability to keep up with Sonic and do what Sonic does gets ignored, which removes half of his entire character. This leaves you only with his initial timidity and his high intellect. And then, you've arrived at a generic "Nerd" archetype that's completely incapable of doing anything physically active but is a walking encyclopedia of information otherwise that can build anything the plot demands. And so you end up making him the mission control guy in the chair, tech support for Sonic who is doing all the action by himself.

But that's not Tails anymore.
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>>550439661
So we've confirmed now that Randomfox is a more extreme windfag than Sparky and in a head to head debate Randomfox actually wins
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>>550439658
see >>550439653
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>>550439612
https://youtube.com/watch?v=U28ul9ziu-o
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tails canon butthole
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>>550439707
concept/potentialfags don't understand that
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why do people still pick fights with windfags. the conclusion is always the same
>They prove you wrong
>You get exhausted because they are so autistic that they latch onto details you never cared about
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>>550439707
Just like Silver and 06
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>>550439804
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>>550439874
Anon this was a case of two windfags fighting each other because they were arguing over intent and execution (took them hours to even realize that)
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>>550439608
>didn't watch the video
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>>550439874
Windfags tried to tell me the games are good so I know they are retards.
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>>550439707
No, execution and story are two different things. A story is a sequence of events, the execution is the way in which those events are represented. Those are two very different things.

>>550439967
I knew from the beginning, I just want to see the specific points raised in the video get discussed because I think they're interesting.
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>>550439496
I've noticed that I've gotten better at imagining physical sensations this past year. I've mostly been manifesting hugs with Vex and R. Mika.
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>>550439967
Let me guess, the windfag who's opinion more closely aligns with autistic details from the games won?
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>>550438887
Relative to how simple his character is, Sonic has been written much worse and for far longer.
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>>550439968
Nigga. I will not watch that shit. Accept this fact now. Randomfox’s opinion is not gospel. If YOU cannot tell me HERE IN WORDS why I am wrong, YOU ARE USELESS
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>>550439550
In all honesty, there's no real reason to have that kind of situation in the first place.

Tails can easily be like the "Teen Titans leader" AND "Batman's Sidekick" roles at the same time, here. All he'd need is games where he's doing his own thing, whilst otherwise tagging along with Sonic as usual.

Tails can grow into a Nightwing like figure to emphasize that he's now an equal partner to Sonic. We don't necessarily need a new "Tails" to be Sonic's kid sidekick to fill that space. There's room for Sonic to have others fill that space for a one off adventure, but we don't need to outright replace Tails' original role.

In all honestly, I don't really like that there's just multiple Robins. I don't like how a lot of comic heroes are like that. Not that I don't like the other Robins themselves, it just bugs me 'cause there should be one "Robin" character like Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman ultimately are. I saw a tweet recently about who the 4th big DC character is, and all the replies were Robin or Flash, but neither is a valid answer because ultimately, "Robin" and "The Flash" practically do not exist as characters at all because of this whole mantle thing. But that's whatever...
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>>550440179
You don't even know what he says in the video, yet you keep talking your nonsense.
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>>550439496
That sounds beautiful.
>>550438974
I'll give it a shot. My tennis elbow is flaring up again anyway.
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>Opinion
>It's just a bunch of objective facts that happened in the games
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>>550440258
I don’t need to watch his video to have an opinion on Forces
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>>550440103
>hugs with Vex and R. Mika.
Are you me?
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>>550440303
Your opinion on Forces is misinformed and incomplete because you lack greater context, which that video would amazingly provide, if you were more open minded.
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The only people who find Randomfox disagreeable think the comics are in character
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>Sonic nervously sweating.
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>>550440427
Nicole replace Tails with Fiona.
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>>550440423
The guy who refuses to pay attention to Randomfox's lectures and study used Archie terminology earlier.
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>>550439285
No.
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>>550440423
I don’t even read the comics. Forces Tails is OOC
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>>550440528
BASED SPARKY
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unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.
https://files.catbox.moe/lsq16a.jpg
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windfags vs everythingfags who wins
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>>550440528
You act as an expert on this series and yet you refuse the most basic of knowledge.
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Funny that the Core 4 is just Sonic and his biggest cocksuckers & Knuckles
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>>550440613
heh, nice.
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>>550440636
Sparky is knowledgeable in his own right and he decides if there is value in what Randomfox has to say
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>>550440712
The Core 4 is the most retarded idea in this entire franchise. Tails Knuckles and Amy all make each other less compelling when they're around each other. They have the worst dynamics.
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>>550440628
what the hell is an everythingfag?
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>>550440775
This isn’t a problem in Boom or the movies
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Oooh, a lemon.
>munch
SA1 Tails voice: AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>550439734
Randomfox is never wrong, just extremely overzealous.
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SALZAM!
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>>550440802
holy newfag
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>>550440775
At least it makes sense for Tails and Amy to follow Sonic around everywhere, Knuckles not so much
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>>550437602
>Tails is with Classic Sonic the whole time but this never amounts to ANYTHING in-game like it does for the Avatar. As far as we can SEE, Classic Sonic is doing everything, even if Tails is the one telling him where to go in-story.
So you ignore the actual intent and focus on your headcanon version of Forces instead. This is no different from how people mischaracterize the characters just because they didn't understand them when playing the games. You always correct them by overanalyzing character profiles, like with how Amy's crush on Sonic is misinterpreted as creepy because it looks that way to uninformed casuals who don't pay as much attention as we do, but as soon as someone does it with a game you're biased against suddenly it's not a valid point.
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>>550440179
>Randomfox’s opinion is not gospel
It should be at this point. He is THE gamefag of the fandom.
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>>550440363
Fine taste, my friend.
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>>550440774
That's not how it works. You can't arbitrarily decide if it has value or not when you don't know what's being said.
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>>550440423
In other words, Archiesubhumans. They have never gotten a single W in this general.
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At this point Randomfox is gospel. The rest of you try to cope and say shit that makes no sense. Randomfox's logic is simple. If it's in the games then it's in-character. If it's out of the games then it's out of character. All of your fanart, fanfics, and headcanons have to align with Randomfox's pure and clean vision of the franchise. You must boil yourself of all those pesky little westisms that taint the Sonic franchise so you too can have perfect clarity of who Sonic is.
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>>550436580
Why are Tailsfags massive porn addicts?
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Did somebody say wind?
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Imagine not already knowing that the comics and cartoons are OUT OF CHARACTER
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Why do Westfags want American Sonic to be a thing when America is woke as fuck and will just torch the IP like they have been casually doing with their own?
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Imagine having sex
with Sonic
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>Rouge
>Honey
>Cream
>Bunnie
>Sage
>Mina
>Sonic
>Barby
>Zooey
>Vanilla
>Blaze
>Morain
>Li Moon
>Belle
>Sara
>Sticks
>Ariem
>Cosmo
>Nicole
>Maddie
>Wave
>Fiona
>Carrotia
>Perci
>Marine
>Alicia (Anti-Sally)
>Tangle
>Sara
>Maria
>Rosemary
>Sally
>Various human women
All fox'd. How does he do it?
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>>550439496
I don't normally dream but, I did have one similar with a random OC I've never seen. Some light blue character. I just remember how fluffy she was before waking up abruptly.
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>>550440942
>So you ignore the actual intent and focus on your headcanon version of Forces instead.
False. That's not at all what I did at all, in any way, whatsoever.

I criticized what Sonic Forces itself is doing and how its story and concepts are communicated.
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Do we have a list of who is s Windfag, JPfag, and a Westfag here?
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for some reason it isn't enough for westfags to have their shitty western OCs but they NEEED to mischaracterize the game characters to have them. This is why i have no tolerance for people who like archie, idw, and satam.
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>comics
Did anyone actually bring them up as being in character?
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>>550441512
What about AoStH and Underground and Fleetway?
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>>550441491
Everyone good is a windfag or westfag. Everyone bad is a JPfag.
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>>550441473
>how its story and concepts are communicated
So yes, that is exactly what you did. This is the equivalent of Sonamy haters saying that Amy looks like a rapist. If you were approaching the series overall with the same standards you approach Tails in Forces you would be calling Amy a rapist. It is the same mistake, just in another context. You ignore the vision and focus on your inaccurate interpretation instead.
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>>550441574
Our lord Randomfox has confirmed that Underground is Wind-approved.
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>>550441638
>So yes, that is exactly what you did.
No, it isn't, at all. What the heck are you talking about? Don't put words in my mouth or twist what I say to mean something else.
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>i post fox
>the thread dies
Another victory for boy!
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the solution is simple. Sega should kill Tails
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>uuuur logically tails should assume sonic blew up in the capsule because it's the most logical thing and he is smart huur duurr
You are playing a videogame for seven year olds. When he says he doesn't believe Sonic died it's because he doesn't believe Sonic died.
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>>550441724
I didn't put words in your mouth, I just observed your behavior. You are disregarding it because of a supposed failure in communication. You failed to understand the Tails related plot points of Forces (as many have, although Randomfox understood them immediately on his first playthrough) just as how most people who casually experience the series fail to understand certain things about the characters, which they then blame on supposed failures in communication in those games.
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>>550437815
holy jealous woman comment
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Why are Tailsfags either the biggest gooners to ever exist or the most autistic motherfuckers you've ever seen?
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>>550441806
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>Hates Archie
>Hates Satam
>Hates the movies (except longclaw)
>Hates IDW

>Loves every game
>Even Forces
>likes underground
>loves the blade of slop
The windshit smattering of opinions. I'm starting to think this guy is crazy
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>>550441462
>I just remember how fluffy she was before waking up abruptly.
This is the worst part of dreaming about something so wonderful. Being torn away from it is soul crushing.
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>>550442001
He's the self-insert, that's why
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Randomfox’s video does not address at all why Tails was cowering with civilians before Infinite even showed up
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>>550442081
how can you possibly self insert as him
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>>550441914
Disregarding what?!

I'm not saying that Sonic Forces' arc for Tails doesn't exist or whatever, I'm saying that it didn't properly showcase or execute any of it properly.

Regardless of any of this, correcting misunderstandings of stuff and having my own criticisms on how things are executed, are two separate things.
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>>550441947
>jelous of an attwhore
lmao, no.
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>>550442156
Tails is a self-insert, "relatable" character that represents the audience.

Sonic is the ideal, Tails is (You) aspiring to reach that ideal.
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Crossover between:
Game Sonic & Archie Sonic
IDW Sonic & Manga Sonic
Sonic X & SatAM

What are the results?
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>>550441837
>retarded faggot doesn't understand the concept of nuance
Sonic was made for teens btw
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>>550441837
Denial is the first stage of grief
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>>550442358
>Sonic X & SatAM
These are the only 2 that would get along.
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>Movie Sonic when IDW Sonic does NOT want to kill Eggman
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>>550442358
>Sonic X & SatAM
I watched a sprite animated series about this very premise, a long time ago.

It ended up becoming extremely Anti-Amy, and portraying her as delusional with Sonic clearly preferring Sally. Looking back, I really did not like this aspect of that all, and it soured the whole experience for me.
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>>550442158
>Disregarding what?!
His arc in Sonic Forces. It's not something you genuinely acknowledge. Instead you focus on how it's showcased, or lack of showcase. This is opposite to your usual behavior, where you put intentions and profiles above execution (which often fails in some regards: see how many people think Amy is a rapist). I think it highlights your negative bias against Forces.
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Sonic Adventure 2.5
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>>550442558
I like Amy and Sally and I strongly believe most of the people who ship the other with Sonic are just inclined to portray the other in as bad faith as possible. It's just the sad truth of shippers. I know what you're talking about. It's a Sonic X animated series with Sally in it that goes out of its way to shit on Amy.
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>>550442558
I remember what you're talking about. It first started out as a simple crossover, but then turned into pure Sonally and dedicated a whole episode to Amy chimping out over their love like a wild animal and she then joined a group of bad guys (I think).
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>>550442558
It's almost like Sonallyfags hate Amy and don't understand Sonic's character at all.
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>>550442692
>>550442692
>Amy chimping out over their love like a wild animal
So how should Amy have behaved?
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>>550442610
>This is opposite to your usual behavior, where you put intentions and profiles above execution
What, I can't criticize things!?

Correcting misunderstandings and criticizing things are two different things. I have a lot of criticisms about this entire franchise. It comes with having studied it thoroughly for years. I just don't always talk about it, because my focus when posting is often just clearing up the misunderstandings.

The reason people don't like Amy is usually because of Sonic X and other stuff flanderizing her character. I have criticized those portrayals of Amy a lot in the past, and cite the Adventure games and Heroes and stuff as examples of how she's done well, with the character profile stuff describing what her character is intended to be.
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I once read a fanfic (or rather fanfics) a long time ago that was a series of retellings for the games and had all these ships and there was one that had a chapter where Sally showed up and was a huge bitch to Sonic and was basically told to fuck off because he's dating Amy now. That was the only time Sally appeared in anything related to those stories.
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>>550442884
The entire scenario is built on reading Sonic and Amy's relationship in X purely in bad faith.

Despite the fact that there's an entire episode that ends with the resolution that Sonic does, in fact, love Amy in return. Sonic X flanderizes Amy 99% of the time very badly, but it still understands what the dynamic between Sonic and Amy is supposed to be, at least on paper. But this completely flew over the heads of the guy that made that sprite series, because he clearly fell for the psycho stalker 'Sonic HATES Amy' memes.

So creating a series where X and SatAM are part of the same timeline for Sonic causes the writer's internal biases to bleed through and glorify Sally as Sonic's true love and demonize Amy as someone Sonic is afraid of.
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>>550442274
chest too small
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>>550442904
That's not what I said.
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>>550442884
It was character-bashing since Sonic loved Sally and everyone shit on her and then she betrayed everyone in her misery.
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>>550442274
legs too thicc
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>>550441491
>Westfag

I know everything about every namefag that currently visits this general.
the majority of sthg namefags who were here before the 2020s are westfags and you can tell based on how they treat Sonic's personality. Artfags like Lettuce and Kayla Na have westfag biases. Lettuce inadvertently ended up antagonizing JPfags this way.
The majority of our current namefags are hard to categorize, but fewer of them are archiefags these days.
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>>550442997
Based
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>>550443227
I don't put intentions above execution.

I make sure to understand what the intentions ARE so that I can judge the execution accordingly. I don't want to draw conclusions based on personal interpretation that could easily be inaccurate. I understand what Sonic Forces is going for with Tails. After watching that video thing earlier, I have a better understanding of what they were going for, so I shouldn't say Tails was outright ruined entirely. But, in practice, he absolutely was, because Forces still does him dirty on a very foundational level in spite of that story. What Tails is supposed to be at his core on the most basic level is not displayed anywhere in the game. Tails' fall into his depressive slump doesn't hold water because he's already cowering before Sonic showed up in the very beginning, and makes no attempt to help Sonic in-battle like he would have in the classics or adventure games. And as a result, he never truly redeems himself either. He just stops acting like that, and returns to normal-ish behavior, but still doesn't actually get to DO anything himself, which is what ultimately holds him back.
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>>550442558
Between Voicetard and that animation I don't trust Sonallyfags to know anything about Sonic aside from the fact that he's a videogame character.
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>>550440937
What the writers (both Sonic Team and western retards like EvanIan) need to learn is that the cast should be "crossing paths".
>People should be running into Tails when he's in the middle of testing something in the field (like flying his plane) or he gets involved with things independently (like SA2, hearing Sonic's on Prison Island and staging a one-man jailbreak and coincidentally seeing Amy - doing the same - being cornered by Eggman and Shadow).
>Amy should be surprising Sonic from behind, she's usually living her life (being on vacation in Soleanna in 06, grocery shopping in Station Square in SA1, etc) before her Sonic radar goes off and attracts her to the adventure
>Knuckles should be doing something like Treasure Hunting for historical artifacts/emeralds or end up encountering the others because of something he can't do on his own (you know, like his theme says, "this alliance has a purpose, this partnership is only temporary" except not directly quoting it you fuck)
And so forth. That's the core of what the "long time no see" meme means: it's a pleasant coincidence that they end up encountering each other, not that they always have their numbers on speed-dial.
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>>550440247
Tails can still work with Sonic without being his sidekick, or being kicked to the sidelines.
Dick doesn't suddenly regress back into being a sidekick whenever he chooses to work with Bruce after becoming the leader of the Titans, they consider each other as equals.
>In all honestly, I don't really like that there's just multiple Robins.
The point of the other Robins is that while the role is necessary, it's not permanent, robins leave the nest eventually, Jason became Robin because Dick spread his wings and Tim became Robin because Jason died.
It's the same for Sonic, if Sonic must have a sidekick, does someone else fill that role once Tails grows out of it, or is Tails more like Barnacle Boy than he is Kid Flash?
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>>550442558
name?
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>>550443826
hmofa the cat
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>>550443784
Does Sonic even 'need' a sidekick?
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You guys get really intense about shipping lol
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>>550443826
If Honey's this catty as a halfbreed, imagine how feral her father must have been.
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>>550443925
Fiona will not stand for this.
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>>550443991
Deep cut Sonic Universe reference
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>>550443782
It takes less writing brainpower to treat the cast as one amorphous blob than to have to come up with (even thin) reasons for why [character] is present in the plot. There's marketing concerns as well, they need synergy between Classic & Modern.
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>>550444232
MORE
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>ITT grown men have shipping wars about animals who don’t even have consistent personalities
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>>550444316
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>ITT I meow like a kitty cat
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Sonic will never love Amy or anyone
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>>550444430
Blaze...
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Do you think this form of crossbreeding always ups up with the child adopting his blobian parent's species, or do you think the human parent could have some hidden species gene that only shows up in offspring?
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>>550444430
Honey…
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I understand that Tails not doing anything physical in the entire meta era is a problem, but that shouldn't discount individual achievements that aren't physical just because they aren't physical. It's a part of his character that doesn't get to shine as much as it should due to him not being playable, but that doesn't mean we should be ignoring the rest of his character in the process. Clearly Forces is operating within some of the constraints of that era, it should be understood as such.
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If I want to ship Knuckles with Bunnie Rabbot I will do it and if that makes you upset it's because you're emotionally immature.
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>>550444328
>ITT
>men
good one
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>>550443784
>>550443918
Sonic & Tails are SUPPOSED to be equal partners that rely on each other, since the Adventure games. I wouldn't say that Sonic "needs" a sidekick, anymore than he needs a love interest or a rival. Sonic is "Sonic", the whole point is that he is aloof and detached. Tails simply chose to follow him, and grew into his own over time.

Tails going from Robin to Nightwing doesn't mean there should suddenly be a Tim showing up to be like "Sonic, you NEED a Tails". There's nothing stopping Tails himself from just going to help Sonic when needed, he and Sonic didn't have a falling out like Nightwing did with Batman.

These characters aren't costumed superheroes, either. Sonic's not going to tell Tails to stop being "Tails" and give up that identity or whatever.

>>550443834
I think it was Sonic GX...?
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To be fair an in character Amy would have attacked Sally. Sally can't coexist with jp Amy. She barely tolerated Rouge pretending to flirt with Sonic.
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>>550444892
Amy and Sally should've dueled for the hand of their lover
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>>550444965
lightsaber duel or card game?
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>>550444892
For some reason Sallyfags think a good fix is showing Amy tolerating the ship or pairing Amy off with Tails or something. Amy is not the girl who moves on. She bluntly said she would wait until she's elderly if she must.
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>>550445021
chest too small
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>>550444410
She looks malnourished…
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>>550445021
doe
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>>550444892
Amy isn't a violent psycho.

"Sonic's Girlfriend" being very visibly upset at the mere thought of another girl intruding on HER territory is very reasonable behavior. Amy is a passionate and emotionally driven person, this should be understandable, and reasonable. This behavior from Amy is also directly intertwined with Sonic's own nature of being detached and aloof, and not caring about romance at all. The balance is completely ruined if you try and make Sonic very visibly attracted to and pining after another girl, because that ruins his dynamic with Amy inherently.

It's not that Amy can't exist with Sally, it's whether or not Sonic's own character can exist with Sally in-between both of them. Because how Sonic actually interacts with Sally is just as important as whether or not Amy would see her as a threat.
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>>550445204
Amy has physically attacked other girls for so much less than what Sally does. Any art of her getting along with Sally is out of character.
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>>550445081
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>>550445134
wait what
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>>550444892
The obvious solution would be to have Sally move on since she has shown the will to do that while Amy hasn't. But no Sallyfag would ever want to do that. Just vault her. It can't work.
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>>550445324
holy shit
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>>550445409
>The obvious solution would be to have Sally move on since she has shown the will to do that
But which Sally was that?
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Amybros...
https://youtu.be/Lk6kyBN9n9o?si=-Wgs_ANDQNunzcB5
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Sonic should have a villain that is basically a yandere for him, a fangirl that is way too obsessed and wants to to tie him down, break his legs even if she has to do that, just so he doesn't escape her.
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>>550445510
Satam isn't fully committed to Sonic as a boyfriend and was willing to hit on other men, this was even part of the plot for the third season that would have confirmed her to start a relationship with Sonic. Preboot was quick to try out other men when she broke up with Sonic. Reboot had no romantic feelings for Sonic at all. Sally Moon was with Knuckles. Guardians Sally picked an offscreen male. Only Light Mobius Sally had Amy level dedication to staying with Sonic.
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>>550445536
Very jarring
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>>550445598
you just described Amy
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>>550445676
when do they become nude
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That Violet person who kept saying Satam Sonic was IC was clearly lying.
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>>550445890
>Sonally turns Sonic into Amy
many such cases unfortunately
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>>550445134
cute doe
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>>550445378
Bump IS real and CAN hurt you.
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>>550441382
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>>550445996
Take that, Ian Flynn!
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Welcome to the 2020s. Dragon Ball and Spider-man are actually videogame franchises now. Sonic is a movie franchise that gets a videogame once in a while based on an old poorly translated continuity from the 2000s. Every script is required to have at least one "Did that just happen?". Tie in comics all use therapy speak from tumblr. Things are terrible.
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>>550445890
As usual.
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>>550444521
So what happens if the resulting crossbreeds fuck?
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>>550445890
I can't believe Sonic was the one trying to tie Sally down
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>>550445890
No Sonallyfag has ever been correct about anything. The pairing needs Sonic to be ooc to get going.
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>>550443918
>>550444757
Given that Tails was invented to be Sonic's sidekick, I'd say it's safe to assume that there was a demand for Sonic to have a sidekick.

I do not subscribe to the belief that a sidekick is not the subordinate of the hero they work with, if Tails is Sonic's equal then "sidekick" wouldn't apply to Tails, he'd be Sonic's peer instead.
This is why Dick Grayson can't be a sidekick after he becomes Nightwing, Nightwing is Batman's peer, Robin is Batman's sidekick.
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>>550446396
A regular cat comes out.
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>>550446283
Your time is over, old man
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Sally is like the wind?
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>>550446396
Butler era mobians
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>>550446283
It's such a shame how Sonic has been relegated to being a movie franchise from being a video game franchise because the suits suits at Sega Sammy were power tripping on the commercial success of the movies, isn't it? You gave such a good description. I kneel.
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But what if I crossbreed? Why isn't science working night and day on this very important question???
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>>550446126
my virginity...
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metal sonic is going to be real soon and I am not going to give a shit about anything except fucking him and modifying him
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>>550446396
You know Don from Regular Show?
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>>550446890
amy…
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I love Shadria...crossbreeding is based...
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>>550446593
I find it funny that Penders had no issue drawing humans but blobians eluded him so he just made them more humanlike.
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>>550445890
Did you actually think Violet was being smart with that? SatAm is notorious for being the earliest division in the fandom.
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>>550446974
>every game Metal doesn't show up he's chained to Amy's basement chair, sonic doll and dildo sewn onto him, constantly gyrating, and waiting for the sweet release of death
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I love Shadriafags...intrabreeding is based...
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>>550446694
The AI made her look really flirty and I'm all for it.
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>>550447168
You mean interbreeding? Intrabreeding is breeding with your own ilk.
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>>550447281
(The idea is that Shadriafags are all human, like me)
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>>550447281
I love you Krack
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>>550447376
Not her.
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>>550447393
I love you Krack2
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I luv me krack
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>>550447504
I wouldn't recommend that
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>>550447328
I'm not human
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>>550446718
>because the suits suits at Sega Sammy were power tripping on the commercial success of the movies
Sega's higher-ups have a long and sordid history of being arrogant boomers that Japanese corpo-culture prevents from ever contradicting or making look bad while melting down whenever confronted on their flaws (like that infamous incident between Yuji Naka and Peter Moore). It isn't helped by Sega of America's eternal inferiority complex and Starscream-like scheming to usurp control of the franchise until they were permanently dishonored by Sonic Boom.

Worst part is, people with such malignant personalities tend to live to be 100+, so we'll never be rid of them until another decade at minimum (probably 2 decades, if I'm being cynically honest).
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>>550447620
luv krack
luv maris
simple as
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>>550446283
The canon sucks. I want a reboot.
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>>550447393
If you're a Shadriafag I want to breed with you
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>>550447731
Time for a canon Super Genesis Wave :)
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>>550447764
I'm not a girl.
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>>550447806
Who said that matters?
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When is someone gonna love every namefag?
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>>550448028
I don't need love.
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>>550448028
Some sort of namefag slut?
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>>550447648
We really are in the worst era of Sonic, aren't we? As bad as the meta era was, I'd rather take that than the current brand era. Ideally, I'd rather be in the dark era (2000s) when the games had passion, high stakes, and were serious and the fandom wasn't pozzed.
Sonic Team literally has to rely on the movies to give them ideas on what to implement into the games (Example: Frontiers 1 borrowed a lot from Sonic Movie 1). This just shows how creatively bankrupt Sonic Team is. I'm trying to remain optimistic towards Frontiers 2 but after seeing how Sonic Team only managed to pump out a global playtest (Frontiers 1) after 5 years of development time, I can't help but be skeptical
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>>550448420
Shadow gens wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for movie 3. That's painful. The games from now until Paramount gets tired of the movies will probably all be made with the movies in mind for maximum cashflow.
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>>550448028
I love all of them because they are all sweet girls with big boobies in my canon.
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>>550448616
I am an extremely manly masculine man with YY chromosomes who is manly all the time and I'm 6 feet tall with big scary muscles okay
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>>550448616
Damn, who's the most stacked though?
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I thought all our drawfags were trans?
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>>550448797
NO
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>>550448707
sparky
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>>550448420
>We really are in the worst era of Sonic, aren't we?
lol no
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>>550448674
Mmm tomboy
>>550448707
They're all equal, of course.
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>>550448797
Trans-blobian
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>>550448420
The one good thing about the Meta Era is that you could easily ignore it. This current era wants to completely redefine Sonic on every level.
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>>550448420
>Example: Frontiers 1 borrowed a lot from Sonic Movie 1
Some thunder effects on two animations?
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>>550448542
This is all at the behest of the suits at Sega Sammy. We can't even have an original game anymore like in the 2000s because the movies are steering the direction of the franchise now instead of the other way around. What would happen if Paramount suddenly decided to stop making movies? Would Sonic Team be able to deal with the fallout?
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>new captcha drops
>a certain dramafag stops posting
>also i don't have to eait anymore
lol
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>>550449030
Yes but also the focus on character arcs and progression. It's pathetic that Sonic Team had to get the idea from a movie when Sonic Team had already done it in SA1, SA2, Sonic Battle, Shadow 05, and Sonic 06
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300 filtered posts
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>>550446718
>>550447648
>because the suits suits at Sega Sammy were power tripping on the commercial success of the movies
I'm reminded of Vishnu Athreya, the guy in charge of Cartoon Network's scheduling. Back in CN India, his strategy was spamming the most successful show 24/7 (Oggy and the Cockroaches) and he did the same with Teen Titans Go when he got promoted to shitting up American schedules.
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>>550449291
>and he did the same with Teen Titans Go when he got promoted to shitting up American schedules
So that's why i got incredibly bored, an indian was working on it.
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>>550449291
>a jeet was responsible for the CN TTG shilling
indians aren't even human
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What happens when an Indian and a mobian crossbreed?
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>>550449291
Wait, I thought the TTG spam was due to Christina Miller or whatever that CEO's name was.
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>>550449730
Who do you think promoted the jeet, dumbass? The woman fanned the flames with the "it's your new favorite show" marketing crap, but she was entirely satisfied with what Athreya was doing.
Speaking of which, Vishnu was also the executive producer on the shitty Velma show too, and that was after Miller left.
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>>550449716
Street shitter geoffrey is born.
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The only good indian is the guy from khan academy teaching math.
>>550449974
and i thought women shouldn't write but to be honest california should get nuked.
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>>550450257
But inuyasha
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>>550450619
Japanese women don't count, their culture somehow curtails their excesses.
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Surge and Zazz added to Rumble just now…,
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>>550450619
non-american women can do everything because they don't produce shit to spite me, ok???
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>>550450685
Frankenstein? Harry Potter?
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>>550450885
>came out 200 years ago
>came out 20 years ago and is a TERF
And to be honest Rowling's writing is not immune to criticism, she hit big with the worldbuilding above all.
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>>550451102
Being a terf is a good thing though, why mention it? Only complete retards support troons.
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>>550451102
>t-terf!
Nobody cares
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>>550451330
No, but just to say she is different from the average progressive tranny loving woman in the industry.
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>>550450885
>Harry Potter
Characterization is Rowling's only strong point. Plot-wise, she's as hack as they come - comes with the territory with magic. Hell, I can't really say she does worldbuilding all that well when most of that is done in tweets years after the fact. I respect her for driving freaks insane with the fact royalties ensure she will never be divested from her creation despite their instincts telling them to consoom, but that's it.
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>>550451330
On the one hand, they understand the differences between a man and a woman.
On the other, they want to enslave men to force some weird form of equal outcome in performance.
I'd rather we all just strive to be our best and to not get envious of another's natural traits.
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Shes in bros!
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>>550451584
You say this every week.
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>>550451102
>a TERF
*normal woman. Amazing that there's an entire insult for women who don't want mentally ill male sex offenders in their bathrooms.
Harry Potter is a book aimed at children, it's not perfect, but it more than achieves what it set out to do. Sort of like SA2. SA2 doesn't have perfect writing, but it does the job and it's beloved by many.
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>>550451501
So she's Maekawa
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>>550451994
>being so stupid to not understand my point
feminists are all neurotic anyways
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>>550451994
Why does Omega(a Griffindor) hang out with two Slytherins?
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>>550451994
Common ravenclaw victory
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>>550451994
You sound like you think it's impossible for children's media to have "perfect writing" (whatever that is).
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>>550453504
Sonic's family has the genes for huge boobs
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>>550453093
Touch fluffy tail
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>Surge and Zazz in Rumble
I knew I was doing the right thing not spending my red rings on Tangle and Whisper, at this rate Mephiles and Vanilla are not impossible and they seem to want to add as many characters as possible, roughly 2 per month currently. Sucks they are going to be one-and-dones from what it seems, so the character gets included, but never gets another skin or skill. Did get Surge tho, but not Zazz I don't need him when Zavok is in the game as a proper character that will probably get another skill in the future

>>550453550
Can't blame Eggman for wanting to make himself a female clone of Sonic then
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>>550448420
>Brand era
>The movies are the most out of brand thing they have ever done
You guys have a weird perception of the franchise
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>>550451994
>its children’s media excuse
low IQ post
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>>550453964
Why do you say that about the skin and skill being a one and done? I don’t play Rumble so I wouldn’t know.
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>>550453964
>Starline made Kit and Surge as a hobby
>his real job was perfecting female Sonic as Eggman's concubine
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>>550454165
Basically right now every new character from Emerl, Whisper to Tangle gets included with a single base skin and two skills, and they never get more. But it's been a short time, so maybe there's going to be more in the future.
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>>550454385
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It's not that you're in the worst era, you're in the whoring out era.

If sonic was corposlop before, now it's 10 times more, like the movies they'll just copy every other major movie by slapping references, unfunny jokes, overtalkative characters and tik tok dances or other social media shitty trend, movies are so context dependent nowdays that in 20 years anyone watching for the first time will shit on this entire wasteland because nobody understands them anymore.

Sonic sucks because the entire zeitgeist sucks but at least we made le money to produce even more bad stuff and so on...
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After having a shower, and thinking about it some more, who would Sonic's Jason Todd be?
Dick was a Robin that flew from the nest, Jason was the Robin that fell from the nest, Batman's parenting ensured Dick wouldn't let his trauma consume him like it did him, but Batman failed Jason as his mentor and as his savior.

Emerl followed Sonic wherever he went and over the course of the game Emerl had become Sonic's peer, Sonic had faith that Emerl would be able to stop Eggman all by himself, but he was wrong, Eggman's attempt at taking advantage of Emerl's naivety and arrogance caused him to go out of control, Sonic tried using the Master Emerald to stabilize the emeralds inside of Emerl, but he failed, Sonic tried knocking some sense into the frenzied Ultimate Emerl and it worked, stopping the Final Egg Blaster, but at the cost of Emerl's life, Emerl is Sonic's greatest failure, an apprentice he failed to save.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4YpFFD_2wE
>Tails: Someday... When the world is truly at peace... When there's no need for weapons...
>Tails: When we become adults and create such a world... Where everyone can always laugh and smile...
>Tails: Will we get to play with Emerl again?
>Sonic: ... ... ... Yeah! I'm sure of it!
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>>550456059
No it would just be Tails from Lost World after he and Sonic had their falling out
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I will never get a job.
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>>550456383
Yes you will
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>>550456512
Unironically my phone doesn't ring, i guess at this point i'm forced to become a villain.
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Why is she sad?
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we're close to #9000
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>>550456902
Because she watched Sonic pin down and rape Surge. She didn't know what to do. Surge is a villain and Sonic is her friend. In the moment she didn't quite get it. Surge wasn't kicking and screaming, but she was crying. It wasn't like what happens in the movies. It wasn't a violent and loud attack. It was Sonic rutting into the poor woman with need. Blaze backed out before either of them saw her. She never thought to tell on Sonic and Surge never reported the incident. She thought she would feel differently about Sonic now. He's a rapist. The years of friendship with Sonic made things confusing, she looked into those bright green eyes and still saw the man she befriended long ago. A good man. Why didn't her emotions switch? Why didn't she shift to recognize that he's a rapist? She saw the whole thing!

Blaze eventually lost the ability to look at herself in the mirror. Thinking about the matter became confusing. She was starting to lose herself. Every now and again she would catch herself thinking "Why didn't Surge scream for help? Why hasn't Surge told anyone". She realized that all she was doing was coming up with defenses for her own inaction. What now? Should she tell everyone what Sonic did? That doesn't seem right. It was Surge's story. Nobody would believe her. It would sound like she's lashing out at Sonic.
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>>550457106
No milestone, purely because we won't be able to agree upon one
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>>550455279
>Sonic sucks because the entire zeitgeist sucks but at least we made le money to produce even more bad stuff and so on
>Sonic Heroes received generally "mixed or average" reviews, according to the review aggregator website Metacritic.[29][30][31][32] Some reviewers felt the game was better than the previous 3D Sonic games but still below the quality of the 2D games.[2][4][33] The PS2 and PC's version's reviews were considerably worse than other.
>It was a major commercial success. By October 2004, the game had sold over one million copies in Europe.
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>>550457148
It should be Vegeta related.
>>550456690
YES YOU WILL GET A JOB
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>>550457354
Slop
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>>550441306
Imagine having a background.
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>>550457604
Fiona so strong she punches the void.
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>>550457729
Being stuck in the void for 5 months has really done a number to Fiona's sanity.
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>>550457893
Don't worry she's fine, the void is very talkative.
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Okay, ENOUGH straightposting
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It's just a cartoon they don't have anythong down there.
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>>550458805
jpsisters...
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>>550458805
>Surge
My heart only belongs to one irremediable sonic villain
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>>550458805
Stealth dropped her ass too thats fucking nuts.
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Forever casted in stone.
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>>550459360
>>550459460
>>550459637
Are you dumping an entire Pixiv folder or something?
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>>550458805
Also Metal got another skill, so now he has 3 uniques. No wonder, I see tons of Metals around, they have to give him something. I already saw several Surges around, and not a single Zazz

>>550458995
At this rate he's almost certainly coming in.
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you focus on rouge's tits, but I focus on Shadow's grippers and round butt
ngggh
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>>550459708
Shadouge is more deranged than usual today.
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>Live Kit reaction
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>>550459709
>At this rate he's almost certainly coming in.
Behind red rings or behind a game pass like Emerld?
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>>550458995
gayfag
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beliebe in yoself
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Surge getting added to all the FTP and Mobile shit makes me think Sega/Sonic Team is legit gonna get rid of Kit. Maybe even have him removed from IDW. It's clear they don't want "Tails with depression".

I could be wrong but even the mindset "they're all pervs and just want Waifus" ignores how most of those people are also pedophiles who want crossdressing shota ass.
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>>550459991
No idea, he could be either, but we've only had a single season pass character so far which made some people complain and 4 ring only ones, so I'd keep at least 300 red rings saved if you want him for free. Assuming he is even coming, but at this point I'd be surprised if he weren't.
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>>550460213
>people want everyone canon
>they always forge being canon carries the humiliation ritual burden
I can't wait for japaniggers to vompletely fuck up IDW characterizations, although it would be an improvement.
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>>550460514
nta but i am interesting to see if this actually happens since SOJ changed Sage's characterization from what Ian already set up in Frontiers
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>>550460514
It'd be funny if the Nips decided
>Whispa the wurf? Rooks rike Knuckres girfrien and nobody cares about him anymore so he needs something to get a revival
>next game we ship dem together
>they wir hord hands
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>>550460668
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>>550460974
why sad you should be to care about who whisper wants to fuck
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>>550460213
>Sega will rather kill Kit than Zavok and the rest of the Zeti
They wouldn't dare
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>>550461183
*how sad
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Sticks is probably the only non Sonic Team character to keep her personality when written by them.
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It's a pity that such a good Y2K design as Surge has, has to be wasted on mobile games
If she was introduced in a proper game it would sell
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sonadow will be canon in 10 years
maybe less
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>>550459834
It's hilarious how much of an afterthought Kit is to everyone. He could be removed entirely from Surge and no one would notice.
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>>550461241
It's not like Tails hasn't technically killed Kit before. Man was Starline retarded to make Kit's weakness literally "press button in backpack". Guess he just wanted to make Kit super easy to rape.
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>>550461846
Not if movie 4 can stop it
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>>550462129
>girlboss Amy is supposed to destroy the most popular ship
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>>550461048
Nice
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>>550462121
His vulnerability is part of his appeal
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make sure to eat a balanced and filling breakfast today
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>>550462334
i skipped breakfast
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>>550462378
why would you do this? it's the most important meal of the day
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>>550460668
>>550460974
God please make this real because it would be so fucking funny.
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>>550461846
Unironically it's not impossible.
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>>550462481
why not
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>>550462205
You're being desperate. Sonadow will be cratered by the years of recent romantic buildup between Sonic and Amy culminating in a full-on relationship. The fandom will finally be cleansed from the filth of Sonadow fujos when that happens
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>>550461241
Anon, you know as well as I do that Iizuka and co would sooner stroke off a failed experiment solely on the basis that THEY created it than show respect to an outsider creation. Sega is very arrogant.

>>550460213
>>550459834
>>550462103
>Surge getting added to all the FTP and Mobile shit makes me think Sega/Sonic Team is legit gonna get rid of Kit. Maybe even have him removed from IDW. It's clear they don't want "Tails with depression".
For once, the IDW writers are already on the same page with Sega. As part of Evan's redeeming Surge (and Ian's desperate attempts to damage control that), Kit's being set up as the evil male manipulating poor dindu Surge. All they have to do is go all in, murder him offhandedly like they did Mimic, and she's free to become marketable as a solo character.

"We're a package deal" my ass.
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>>550462695
>The fandom will finally be cleansed from the filth of Sonadow fujos when that happens
Unless you eradicate every USfag, I don't see it happening
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I hate Surge so fucking much, I hate her fans, i hate the writers, I hate this fanbase, I hate this world, I hate this universe, I can't wait for the billionaires to destroy everything, make everyone suffer as slaves until they violently rise up and trigger nuclear war killing us all and destroyign the planet beyond repair so those giant cockroaches take it.

Fuck everything, everyone and you guys especially.
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I hate sonadow. but I hate sonamy too... now what?
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>>550462903
Why do you hate Surge so much?
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>>550462628
this >>550462903 is what no breakfast does to you
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>>550440716
Full version of this image?
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>>550461846
There is always the batshit insane possibility that in one of the spin-offs or alternate canons, Sonadow is the relationship with most narrative focus.

Hell they almost did something like that on Prime.
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>>550440716
> Haha Tails, you are banging my daughter
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>>550463148
Yeah in Prime it was beyond clear Sonadow is the favourite of the writers and also the animators
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>>550462836
Don't you dare get mad now when me and so many others fucking told you this would happen the moment Surge's popularity went viral, the moment all that shit happened smart people knew the corporation and the writers would keep her around even if they had to throw out her prior maliciousness and shove it to Kit because he's not popular and thus disposable. Getting mad now if futile either do something about it or shut the fuck up, fucking tired of people seeing the future, doing nothing about it then complaining when the future comes to past. Guess what, if it weren't for people getting pissed at Lanolin's shitty attitude she'd of been in the same position as Surge is now.
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>>550461183
>>550461264
People only defend Whisper on the basis that she's a lesbian. Removing that would expose, once and for all, that her writers have failed to give her character anything except that (except useless crying fits in a failed attempt at drama).
Then again, if the nips do fix her by doing some actual writing, IDWfags will probably attribute that to EvanIan rather than anyone who isn't them.
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>>550463369
>People only defend Whisper on the basis that she's a lesbian.
You're being disingenuous.
she's also a victim
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>>550463493
...Weird how Kit isn't allowed to be a "victim". Must have something to do with the XY chromosomes.
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Your mom? Fox'd.
Your waifu? Fox'd.
Your fav? Vaulted.
(You)? Gaped.

Remember your place anti-tailsfags.
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>>550463346
Oh I'm not mad - I'm right there with predicting this was gonna happen. I'm just saying that they already pre-built Kit's noose before Sega even started pushing on adding IDW characters to games.
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>>550463531
If someone talked about Kit, this would have come up, I'm sure
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>>550462846
It will be like the mass exodus of the fujos from the Amy Hero Academia when the mangaka made Deku and Ochako fall in love with each other
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Starline took this kid and removed his mind to make him a slave to someone else who swore they cared him and him alone and they're gonna burn the world down together and dance on the ashes she starts getting friends, empathizing with normalfags and not wanna do bad things, okay fine no more world burning then he'll fake chaos so she can play hero he doesn't care how many die that she can't save as long as she's happy, can you doomer culture warrors at least wait to see what happens when Kit is eventually exposed for doing this and how Surge will react to it? You all act like she's gonna ditch him for it and he goes full Nine and has to die Sega won't let a kid die
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>>550463884 (me)
*My Hero Academia
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>>550463959
>You all act like she's gonna ditch him for it and he goes full Nine and has to die Sega won't let a kid die
...you know Ian said he's actually not a kid, right?
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>Amy Hero Academia
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>am i included too, right surge?
>>No.
Drippy boy....
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>>550464164
prove it or shut the fuck up
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>>550464164
He's probably around Amy's age
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>>550463959
>can you doomer culture warrors at least wait to see what happens when Kit is eventually exposed for doing this and how Surge will react to it?
I actually did that with Lanolin being corrupted by Mimic. And Evan spat in my fucking face.
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>>550464203
They made amy so OOC it wouldn't surprise me at all if she opens a hero academy.
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>>550463959
How am I supposed to put faith in these writers having a plan when one of them outright admitted that she doesn't do that with simple and necessary shit like "why does a new character act the way they do" until the story forces her to come up with an answer on the fly?
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/793713230136705024/please-tell-me-lunar-isnt-both-sonics-first#notes
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Bet what namefags will be listed in Epstein's list on Friday
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>>550463959
>Sega won't let a kid die
They let millions get vaulted, even if he doesn't die he could disappear in a closet.
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No female villains allowed
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>>550463959
>at least wait to see what happens when Kit is eventually exposed for doing this and how Surge will react to it?
Counterargument: These are IDW writers we're talking about here. Surge is gonna be forgiven while Kit gets blamed cause male.

This is the same bunch who made every male OC character a villain while every OC female character is a "hero". Quit pretending as if this was "culture war" nonsense when the IDW writers are culture warriors themselves.
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Why does Team Chaotix have Smooth Criminal as their theme in Shad05?

https://youtu.be/VIyQcR9A9Ug?si=yPoYq3fp-V1y4DWA
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>>550465416
the main menu theme from Shad05 is copied from a Lilo and Stitch game
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>>550464164
>>550464479
>>550464576
Actually, Evan's the one who says he's older. Her and Ian (as usual because they do not communicate) have different answers:
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/688148211698909184/i-only-ask-because-i-googled-it-an-didnt-get-any
>Evan: I would say that Kit’s probably a little older than Tails (considering Tails’ remarkable maturity, Starline probably thought Tails was older than he actually is), while Surge is around Sonic’s age. So Surge is a teen, Kit is a tween.

https://youtu.be/v2070GIB1lI
>Bumblekast: Hi Ian and Kyle , it my first time asking you guys a question . anyway I have a question how old are surge and kit are they the same age as tail and sonic or etc.
Ian: Yeah, Surge is comparable to Sonic's age and Kit is comparable to Tails' age.
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>>550465302
Retconned.
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>>550465807
Kek
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>>550465807
You am hero alright, Surge. Am hero indeed.
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>>550465669
I like how it's possible to tell who is writing an issue based on how Surge acts. Ian's Surge is a psychotic thug and Evan's Surge is emotionally intelligent and doing this because she "has to"
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Ian vs evan is penders vs bollers
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It could work
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>>550466624
>He thought it was an AmyxEspio moment
You fool
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>>550466364
>half lids
No it couldn't
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>>550466364
Sonia is not an Amy reskin.
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>>550466912
?????
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>>550466912
ah yes shadow is incapable of closing his eyes
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>>550467171
Shadow is the hottest hedgehog
Amy is the ugliest
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>>550467491
>cosmetics
They've really run out of ideas with this franchise
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>>550467491
post surge
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>>550467615
Looks straight out of 2003
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>>550467491
That Metal looks dapper af but I'd like the option to take off the hat, and why the fuck is the 'stache above the nose
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>>550447642
>Shadria
>8 year old boys liking 12-year-old girls
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>>550463959
I don't see how that'd be bad. Kit becoming a bad guy on his own would actually be fantastic for his character. the ONE thing he needs the most is to get glued out of Surge's ass because he's incapable of existing as his own character as long as he's with her.
If they fought and he died that could turn out to be one of the most interesting things the comic ever did actually
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what did he mean
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>>550468272
Silly princess. Girls GET fucked; BOYS fuck!
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>>550468228
>no Fang sword
pity Superstars lived for like 3,5 minutes
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>>550468272
This is kinda gay
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>>550468336
He means he saw this blue sky from afar somewhere
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>>550468432
but enough about you
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>>550460213
>gonna get rid of Kit.
This would break my heart, but I see it happening.
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>>550468272
>>550468409
Kill yourselves faggots, best way to beat your schizophrenia
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>>550468825
Guess some dudes really did the shark teeth look.
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>>550468825
99% of Silver players use this skin
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>see another Sonadow guy in Rumble
>he spams the emote where their noses touch
I guess it makes sense
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How long until the suicide?
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>>550469151
>the emote where their noses touch
wha
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>>550445694
Amy is not a villain at all, and doesn't want to tie Sonic down either. Why do you guys want Amy to be an evil psycho so bad?! She's a nice girl with a loving heart, let her be herself.
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>>550469237
When Surge looks at him with a scared pomni face and slowly backs away into Sonic's friends
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>"Alright, who's gonna take one for the team?"
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>>550446441
>I do not subscribe to the belief that a sidekick is not the subordinate of the hero they work with
Having a character whose sole purpose is to eternally be the hero's "subordinate" is stupid. Period. A sidekick, especially a kid sidekick, should always have the capacity to leave that role and become a peer on equal level. That is WHY Robin became Nightwing. It's only Batman's unchanging status quo that demands a "Robin" to fill that space, but the first Robin already proves that this role can never last, because a Kid WILL grow up and they don't want to just be stuck in Batman's shadow forever.

Tails' story in Sonic Adventure is about growing up and believing in himself for this reason. He is inherently a dynamic character that is meant to grow beyond his role, precisely because his role necessitates it. The very concept of a "Kid Sidekick" is a role that can never last.
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>>550467920
> If they fought and he died that could turn out to be one of the most interesting things the comic ever did

> Expecting the writers to do something interesting
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Must really suck to have Sega discard you like an Archie character.
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>>550456059
Yeah, Emerl is Jason Todd, Gemerl is Red Hood, I came to that conclusion a long time ago.
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>>550469293
bro that was 7 fucking hours ago
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>>550456287
No, that's just Nightwing again.
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>>550470175
what's the point of Silver again
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>>550470274
>yo the futures fucked up again
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>>550470274
Fucking up Sonic for a logical reason rather than just being dumb
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>>550469782
Well, If you think everything the comic writes sucks then there's no freaking point in talking about it, so why bother?
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>>550470274
To remind us that time travel writing should be left in the hands of the skilled
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>>550470559
Blaze and Knuckles are not sidekicks...
rouge is not a sidekick neither
>inb4 but team dork
she is not a sidekick in that.
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>>550470175
Nobody complained when Sonic was being an insecure bitch in prime, but when Silver does it then it's a problem
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>>550470758
nobody watched Prime
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>>550470758
>Nobody complained
lol lmao
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>>550470782
it's unironically the most popular sonic show right now
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>>550470559
All garbage
>>550470693
You are coping
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>>550470904
>You are coping
...what?
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>>550470892
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>>550470892
>competitors are all 20 years old shows whose concepts has been vaulted under 10 steel doors
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>>550471042
Nta but they're right, all of them were made to follow the protag
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>>550471156
what does this have to do with prime being popular?
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>>550471065
Surge left him.
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>>550470559
Kitsunami!
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>>550471304
nta doesn’t make them sidekicks they’re teammates
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>>550468974
So cut- *pukes all over*
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>>550471393
exhausted and dry after 12 hours of nonstop sex, yes
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>>550471382
I thought the fact nobody watches them anymore was relevant, expecially boom whose reception was meh.
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>>550471478
not gonna mention how half the characters are gloveless?
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>>550471415
Same thing, they're just weaker teammates.
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>>550471540
I like paws more than gloves
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>>550470450
> I don't like what your saying so this conversation doesn't matter

The writing of this comic has been gassed up to the point where not only is one of the writers now affecting the games, but elements of the comic itself is seeping into them now, too, you retard
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>>550468974
>Sonic with Shitaze
>Amy with Shadow
>fags
>Self-insert
Holy steaming pile of shit.
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>>550471518
No, she literally left him so she could be in the mobile games. See >>550458805
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>>550471646
That has nothing to do with the point I made
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>>550468974
>sonaze
>shadamy
missing knuxouge and taiream for the perfect quadfecta
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>>550471769
Kys Quaver.
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>>550471661
I don't know why Shitaze sounds so good for her
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Was the news of Ian being fired true or was that nigga just lying yesterday?
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>>550471909
Where do you think you are?
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>>550471678
She is only talking to the devs and opening the way for Kit to get in the game
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>>550471909
Can confirm my uncle works at Sega
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>>550471909
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Okay so he was lying. Simple. Thanks.
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>>550471909
Ian got executed by the mexican cartel, it was fucked up dude
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>>550469097
Because it’s tacky just like he is
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Surge got gangbanged by Sega just to get in the games
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>>550472653
Alvin and the Chipmunks for gen alpha
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>>550472653
Based. Finally some good news about the franchise.
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>>550472653
>Still knitting a time travel plot
Hoo boy
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Read the news. Rip Kit
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>>550472814
Sonic CD movie. What, did you think Silver would be coming? Final movie sting at best.
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>>550472872
she's from another dimension, she gave surge a dollar from another dimension that is most likely worthless in this dimension
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>>550472814
Ruined Silver, now it’s gonna ruin Amy. When will these retards learn?
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>>550472816
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>>550458805
How does this affect Sally Acorn
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>>550473063
>Ruined Silver
he didn’t even show up
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>>550458805
Western. Franchise.
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Prettyckles
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>>550472948
>Sonic CD movie
Crashing the entire franchise on it's knees again but in front of the big screen, what a final movie sting
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>>550473143
I mean time travel plots in general
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>>550473283
Id be fine with it. Got a fun run, all things considered.
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>>550472948
Where did i ever fucking mention Silver?
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What do you guys feel about the movie side of the franchise ending for the foreseeable future? It's pretty unlikely there'll be a Sonic 5.
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Sonic VHS
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>>550473572
Why do you say that, anon?
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>>550472872
Marine getting her Hydrokinesis confirmed was just Sega flexing on IDW.
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>>550473572
There's already talks of an "event" movie after Sonic 4.
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>>550473572
>It's pretty unlikely there'll be a Sonic 5.
>By a Hollywood jewish director
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>>550473803
If it underperforms they'd rather archive Sonic plans and have the shareholders invest into a Luigi movie or whatever
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>>550473959
>shadow movie
FTFY
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They keep making money and keep rating really high, this places attempts to try downplay the movies have never worked because they're incredibly popular. No one gives a ahit about the characterizations like you fags do. They see funny talking animals and that's it. You really overcomplicate this CHILDREN'S MASCOT FRANCHISE. You are watching Chuck E Cheese dance and beg for money. If you cared about the original intent. They left long ago. Sit the fuck down, eat your popcorn, and watch the rat dance.
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>>550473572
they said they wanted to do standalone series' for Amy and Shadow. there were also rumors about Knuckles 2. it's the most active and most engaged with part of the franchise right now. I liked movie 2 and 3.
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>>550474146
Silly Sticks
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>>550474135
Shitty cereal mascot only good for human financial use and abuse.
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>>550468974
The Quadver AU Universe
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>>550469237
“Don’t worry Kit! We can still have fun! Why don’t I take you to a waterpark?”
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>If you cared about the original intent.
Sonic was always meant to be a souless money grabbing mascot built by Yuji Naka's autistic understanding of what being cool is like
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You live in a world where economic efficiency is everything.
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>>550474449
I feel so bad for this doggy his owner is leaving him to play some fall guys games :(
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>>550474416
They are making it very clear their intent is to make the most money possible. The true passion projects they're doing is Yakuza. That's why, despite Sonic making consistently more revenue, Yakuza gets all the funding. Because theyd much rather do that. Sonic is not even popular to its own developers to the point they hired Ian to maintain canon and hired western lore experts. These fags NEED to remember that. All care has left. This IP exists to make money. ST and SEGA could not be fucked to care, thats why the Japanese games are always based off of something fucking else.
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>>550474815
Happy, "together...."
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>>550474441
It's like the darkest timeline where everyone lost their sanity.
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>objectively, all the good fan stories have the M/M tag
Explain this
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>>550474441
>Sonic not with Surge
not seeing it
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>>550475107
Women are very good at writing complex scenarios that will never happen because that's all they do all day anyways. Women really love fag shit.
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I want heresy. I want a blend of Wind Sonic with plenty of attitude and confidence. I want him to have no romantic partners nor considerations for them and focus on adventure, but I want him to physically, not mentally, struggle with his battles leading to more tense moments. I want most what OVA Sonic was, really.
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>>550475174
He ships Sonaze
Sonurge is his pornship
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>>550475312
that's a hot kitsunami
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>>550474828
But i know the profit motive always wins in the end, why do people keep coping with ideological ramblings when every socio-economic experiment always leads to that? Sonic dies like every project dies and the soviet union died, with a fat bureaucrat selling bread in a black market since he's the only one allowed to hoard it without suspect.

Things in nature tend to converge towards incentives, and not dreams of glory or friendship. It's hard, if not impossible sometimes to understand incentives, but their presence is unavoidable.
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>>550474632
Amazing how many times it has to be pointed out that a lot of beloved things came about purely for monetary reasons, not because someone had an idea they really wanted the world to see
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>>550474828
>The true passion projects they're doing is Yakuza.
This haven't been the case for awhile now. They're remaking Yakuza 3 and been doing tons of fuckups as shown with the Yakuza 0 Definitive Edition, which isn't liked by anyone due to ruining the story and the filesize being 5 times the size of the original despite barely adding anything new.
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>>550475713
Everything is his pornship, even a random child he saw at the mall
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So what should i do with this inconsistent piece of shit?

AND YOU STOP CRYING!
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>>550475713
>He ships Sonaze
Batman signal of red flags
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>>550477313
>inconsistent piece of shit
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Btw cereal box or not, does it cost you too much writing something normal?
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>>550477426
sonic is worse because he never changes for shit, sonic is static in every story and changes personality only according to the writer.
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>>550477757
Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic and Sonic Forces are not the same Sonic. Nu-Sonic fucking sucks.
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>>550477948
This but Tails
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>>550477948
did you fucking read the post
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>>550478030
No. I am doing other things right now and acted emotionally and with as little information as possible.
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Sparky??
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>550478667
Sonadow
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>>550478621
hellokitty for the black proletarian man
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>>550478667
Sonadow
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>>550478621
Based
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>>550478621
a nigga can’t draw sonic damn
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>>550479093
he looks troubled I wonder what’s the outcome of his memories
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>>550479172
He remembered how they treated him in Forces
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>>550479160
What she doing there?
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>>550479239
They being japan, by the way.
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>>550479287
Naturally
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>>550479160
I'm getting really sick and tired of Surge being added to things without Kit.
I know it's just mobile slop, but still.
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>>550479357
You'd be surprised how many attribute that game to the west as an attempt to shirk accountability of Japan's wrongdoings. I just had to be sure you weren't doing that.
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>>550479473
it sucks because he's actually a really visibly interesting character
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>>550479473
Surge is the popular one.
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>>550479518
Hell no I ain’t no jp purist, that’s cucked behavior
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>>550479473
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>>550479473
she lied to him... :(
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>>550479961
I would too, 2ft tall loser
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Wasn't Kit mindfucked into only caring about Surge, what would he even do if Surge actually left him?
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>>550472872
>>550473782
Kit never had Hydrokinesis though. His "water powers" are all from his backpack that sucks in water vapors. He himself doesn't actually have powers, just affinity with the machine attached to him thanks to basically being part cyborg internally. Marine has real water powers that manifests like Blaze's fires.
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>>550474480
how to get tikal wife?
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>>550480208
>what would he even do if Surge actually left him?
we saw this when Surge "died" at the end of their first battle against Sonic and Tails, don't you remember?
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>>550480263
so he just clings to someone else
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>>550480263
>the artist really thought this looked at all threatening
Like dangling a teddy bear
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This is just my opinion, but Surge's more interesting thing is her friendship with Kit.
Having a villain have a good friendship with her sidekick and not being just "ggrrrr you fool! I will torture you for failing once again!" (like she was at the beginning) makes her a more interesting a complex character.
When she looks like she really cares for him, but she still wants Sonic and his friends dead, is when she's elevated from a jobber to a more interesting character.
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>>550480387
well people though Tails Doll was scary and it was just a dangling doll
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>>550480387
I’d rather not get tentacle raped
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>>550474318
The fuck is whisper wearing here
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>>550480387
Sonic got spooked
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>>550480561
A woman drew this
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>>550480481
I think her relationship to Kit is not emphasized enough, it doesn't feel that compelling. Like he could disappear one day and she'd function more or less the same, his major role remains bailing her out during fights instead of being a narrative reason for her to act
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>>550481081
>he could disappear one day and she'd function more or less the same
She was having a mental breakdown with Starline visions until he broke them with a hug, I feel she needs him to keep her sanity in check.
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>>550480725
man, that looks so ass, is that some actual IDW page with edited dialogues?
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>>550480493
No one I knew was scared of that thing, but that's anecdotal.
>>550480556
Good point, and Kit probably would too, the psycho.
>>550480725
What a bitch.
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>>550481081
Didnt you read the 2024 annual? It's clear that Kit supports her emotionally. She'd be broken without him.
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>>550481037
You’re too young to drink Tails
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/sthg/ doesn't read the comics
why do u even discuss them
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do any other sonicfag artists find it really difficult to pose the characters sometimes? the bodies are so small with such giant heads that it gets really fucky
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>>550481462
>pic not related
Frankly, you need to go outside.
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>>550481370
I'm at least 30.
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>>550481378
That's the secret. They do read the comics, and secretly love discussing it.
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>>550481587
then stop looking like pikachu lmaoooo stupid
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>>550437193
Does Sage have tufts canonically
Some artists draw her without and some draw her with big poofy ones
Is it just she's to lazy to trim them until Bump holds her down with a razor
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>>550481587
You're not tails. You're a fat man living in your parent's basement pretending you're Tails.
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>>550481587
Still too young
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>>550481540
It's a joke.
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>>550481660
Tails lied he's way older with a dwarfism condition.
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I'm not really feeling like myself today...
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Whisper.
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>>550481767
>You're a fat man living in your parent's basement pretending you're Tails
Actually i'm a skinnyfat man living in my parent's attic and i'm not pretending to be tails.
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>>550481909
We need our next batch of hopium delivered by SEGA here soon, moral is super low since the VGAs.
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>>550474146
>>550474318
the detailed lips evan insists on doing look so fucking bad
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Major red flags of someone who never read the comics
>They bring up "the slap" to discredit Sally and Sonally
>They bring up House of Cards to discredit Sonic and Tails' characterization
>They claim Sally controls Sonic when multiple panels prove otherwise
>They claim to understand Surge by just focusing on her hatred for Sonic while ignoring her character development
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>>550482095
>since the VGAs
since sonic bombs*
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>>550482172
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>character development
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>>550482172
Comics are for nerd losers.
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>>550480480
Cucky cucking Kit
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>>550436580
>Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026
04 March
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>>550482172
Ken Penders is based and has never done anything wrong, ever.
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>>550469671
>Having a character whose sole purpose is to eternally be the hero's "subordinate" is stupid. Period.
Good thing I didn't say, or imply that.
Also don't put subordinate in quotation marks as if that was wrong of me to say, it's not demeaning or inaccurate in this context.
>It's only Batman's unchanging status quo that demands a "Robin" to fill that space.
If the status quo was as unshakable as you're implying it to be, Dick never would've become Nightwing, left Bruce to form the Titans, or even stopped being a kid, he'd basically be what Tails has been for pretty much his entire existence in the games, a sidekick that only plays with the idea of being more because Sega artificially prevents him from leaving that role, DC isn't like that, Dick is Nightwing and he will not revert to being Robin, Batman does not adhere to a strict status quo like Sonic does, if they want to go back to they way things were, they'll just make a new continuity instead of retconning or preventing progression.
>the first Robin already proves that this role can never last, because a Kid WILL grow up and they don't want to just be stuck in Batman's shadow forever.
Damn bro, it's almost like I already pointed out how the role being necessary does not mean that those who take that role will be stuck with it forever, maybe I could've worked the Robin moniker into a well known phrase about the inevitability of maturity or something.
Tails isn't the only kid who is meant to grow up, every kid is meant to grow up, the idea that Sonic shouldn't have more than one sidekick is one I could accept, if the precise meaning was that he shouldn't have more than one *at a time*, when, or (if we're being realistic with what Sega wants for Tails) if Tails stops being Sonic's sidekick, I see no reason why that wouldn't leave the position of sidekick open, but if that still isn't good enough for you, why not have Tails take on a sidekick of his own, if Tails is like Sonic, he should inspire others.
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This is what Sonic should look like. Literal random twitterfags mog Sega and it's not even funny anymore.
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>You're a failure, Kit.
>You're a failure.
>a failure...
>a failure...
>failure...
>failure...
>FAILURE......
You are not a useful tool, Kit.
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>>550482961
>muzzle
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>>550483015
I don't care one way or another about that fucking muzzle debate, I hardly ever see a difference
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>>550482376
Cucky
Power: cucking
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Sonic but The Hunt for Red October
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>>550483412
I'm told this is for Sonic Rumble, so I raise the question of why I should give a shit?
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anyone else getting kicked out of online races in crossworlds?
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>go to pour myself a glass of water
>I fucking miss the cup and pour water onto the table
I am filled with shame and regret, how did I fuck up pouring a glass of water?
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>>550483853
Just a bad dexterity saving throw, brother, you will have better rolls soon, trust.
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I'm bored so here bread
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>>550483971
>>550483971
>>550483971
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>Surge shadow-dropped to Rumble
>without Kit
>still no Marine
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>>550436580
Tails is shit and his fags spams self insert delusions like in OP.
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>>550488615
tailspedos fear reality
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>>550463539
>Your mom? Fox'd.
>Your waifu? Fox'd.
>Your fav? Vaulted.
>(You)? Gaped.
>Remember your place anti-tailsfags.
>Cream always getting put into these is so kino. It's literally a top tier canonship. So is Fiona. It's especially kino when we get free replies for posting them.
You know coping about you being needy with (You)s to deflect hate and even when ignoring you you still beg for attention, doesn't erase away the fact you're actively self inserting as a cuckold when posting cope never-ships like Fiona with Tails.
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>>550436580
OOC fanfic cope. Honey hates Tails the cuck.
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>>550441382
>All fox'd. How does he do it.
He doesn't self inserter tailsfag.
>Rouge
She just teases him, tricking for information
>Honey
Teasing for fashion for others, otherwise beats him up and that's it
>Cream
Friends
>Bunnie
Big Sister to him, only loves Antoine
>Mina
In an AU 30 years from then.
>Sonic
Only sees him as a brother.
>Barby
She prefers two inch platypus dong over 1 inch micro fox dick
>Zooey
Maybe.
>Vanilla
Fucks with vector
>Blaze
Friend, and she likes hedgehogs
>Morain
Was more impressed with Knuckles strength that exposed Tails the liar and she knew tails was the eternal sidekick in the end.
>Li Moon
Maybe, but they barely know eachother
>Belle
Friends
>Sticks
Only loves herself
>Ariem
Only loves Knuckles cock
>Cosmo
Yes, but is in question since it may have all been love potions by Amy meant for Sonic.
>Maddie
Mom
>Wave
Rivals
>Fiona
She cucked Tails hard multiple times for Sonic and Scourge
>Carrotia
Enemies
>Perci
Strong maybe
>Marine
Friends
>Alicia (Anti-Sally)
Enemies
>Tangle
Friends
>Sara
She's riding knuckles' dick. She even smooched knuckles before multiple times. She also likes Sonic more.
>Maria
Nope only with Shadow. Also dead and she doesn't know him.
>Rosemary
His Mother, you reaching faggot.
>Sally
Another big sister/aunt
>Various human women
Humans and toddlers in sonic x thinking tails is "fluffy" or a stuffed animal isn't romance or a sex invitation.

You get around 3 and they aren't even canon



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