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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8911 - Nobody cares about (You) Edition

==NEWS==
>NiGHTS, Ai Ai, Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>550436580
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>>550483971
>yeah sorry bud Sega only wanted to add Surge
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>>550483971
Cucktsunami
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>>550483971
https://youtu.be/Loe1I6IFjcc?si=lPUY6pPpHjrnTps4
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Sonic cucked Kit so hard
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Comics are trash.
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>>550484368
But its Amy fucking Surge....
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>>550484372
It's that or the movies right now, bud
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Douge
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>>550481995
what did she do to deserve this?
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I had a dream where Amy Rose's movie voice was Marisa Tomei. She kind of sounded like a sweeter Sticks but it somehow fit. Also she was modeled most closely after her classic design at first, but her clothes would update throughout the movie (like Robotnik)... Probably so her toys could accessorize for girls.
Rate how realistic and prophetic this is out of ten.
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>>550483971
:(
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>>550484476
Comics and movies will eventually die. But the games will continue.
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Krack the Shitposter
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>>550484604
poor drippo...
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>>550484641
>But the games will continue
The only reason this franchise is still afloat period is because of the movies. When they die out, its over, unless Sonic Team can finally make a good game. Considering they haven't in more than 15 years, being generous, you will see the death of this IP in your lifetime.
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Shadow's the proper gebtleman
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QheJ8VnRfgo
https://youtu.be/s3Sa20WuThk
https://youtu.be/uprBKzT91Z8
https://youtu.be/w8VtSyueNsI
https://youtu.be/UpQ_LkA4nFE
https://youtu.be/hIDBHJU7fxE
https://youtu.be/jbYwTK3_zRA
https://youtu.be/KGuL1A0c88I
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>>550484831
Sonic has a knack for somehow hanging on when it should have died, multiple times. They'll probably figure out a way to keep the blue rat clinging to life yet again
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>>550483971
Sonic is really dead isnt it.
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The Silver of Foxes
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>>550483971
>Blue Tails
>not "Call 9-1-1" Tails
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How do we save Kit?
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>>550484831
>the only reason that this almost 40yo franchise is alive is because of some movies that started a while ago
Sure, buddy.
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>>550484950
>They'll probably figure out a way to keep the blue rat clinging to life yet again
You know, you're probably right. No matter how shit this series gets it'll still draw in the consoomers, at least for now. Crossworlds wasn't nearly as popular as they needed it to be, for instance. They wanted to support this for years, but we cant even maintain above 1k regularly.
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>>550485006
>Silver of foxes
how?
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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A coffee costs 5 rings. Inflation increases 2% every year. If goes back to the future Silver 200 years, will he be able to pay for coffee with 250 rings?
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>>550485474
Maybe
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https://youtu.be/TdJGYPGwZxQ
https://youtu.be/BUJHORsMg_g
https://youtu.be/8GAH0UGtjU8
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>>550485474
No, because Solanea keep sending money to Eggman Empire and can't keep inflation under control, so while it looks like just 2% in reality is way more.
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>>550485006
actually he's blue
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>>550485474
You're assuming the economy never deflates.
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I'm not opening any of those.
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I’m opening one of those
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I'm Honey
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>>550485826
Elise is such a good ruler
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>>550486343
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>>550486529
*kills you*
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fiona fox footjob
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>>550486642
basde honey
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>>550486529
"fucks you*
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>>550486529
*fucking kills you*
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>>550486529
*eats you*
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>>550486529
*obliterates you*
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*does nothing*
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>>550487000
Nerd
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>>550487139
Oh, Sonic Team...
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>>550485843
Has it ever?
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>>550487390
Yes, whenever there's a recession or depression.
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>kitsunami becomes evil
>an issue later, he dies
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>>550487539
In exchange Surge gets redeemed so Evans doesn't have a fit
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*takes your OC for ice cream*
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'ge
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>>550487779
Wow that Sonic looks horrible
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>*beep*
>*beep*
>*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*...
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>>550487779
Huh, Tails the hedgehog doesn't look that bad
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>>550487960
That's Tails.
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>>550487779
Miles and Blails.
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I love Shadria...
>>550484856
>halflidshit
Shadow probably wouldn't know what the pocky game is. I've got no doubt he could learn to be an incredibly good flirt, but where would he have gotten the time to gain the experience and romantic knowledge? What he knows is probably just from the occasional romantic mythology story Maria read him. Why do shippers think he's experienced, bros? Is it just because people think a competent badass male can't be pure? That sucks, you're taking away all of the fun in teaching him.
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>>550487969
The sound of Ian Flynn's death rattle
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>>550488291
omg hell yes
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>>550488308
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>>550487539
isnt he already
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>>550488291
Their gloves are always so clean.
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>shadriafags itt
im going to fucking CUM
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>>550488652
They lick their gloved fingers too.
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shadow is going to cum in maria again
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Is must suck being born royal and pretending not to be the fucked up sex maniac you are deep inside
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>>550488114
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>>550488830
why are you projecting yourself on blaze
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>>550489020
jannydow
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>>550489020
Waggie Shadow
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>>550489020
>milkman Shadow
GIVE ME YOUR MILK I WANT TO DRINK IT STRAIGHT FROM THE TAP
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>>550487236
After I read the 06 leaks I kept calling him meh-files until the game released.
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>>550488880
>Shadow squinted for 1 second while annoyed because the animators were too lazy to use the brows, that's why it's in-character for him to do it 24/7 365 for no reason
Kys disingenuous Heroesnigger.
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>check Japanese Sonic fans twitters
>they all love Mephiles
Why is he so irresistible to them?
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>>550489020
>>550489116
https://files.catbox.moe/2auvp7.png
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>>550489346
He is a Shadow reskin. and they already love Shadow
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>>550489346
Looking like Shadow and being "tragic".
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>>550489438
Now we're talking
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>>550489116
don't be inappropriate anon-kun...
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>>550489346
>>550489474
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>>550489438
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>550489129
I think people still do even if that's clearly not how it's pronounced
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srXlZcl3gN0&t=1036s&pp=2AGMCJACAQ%3D%3D
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>>550486529
>Tailsfags and their autistic porn art with him pretending hes a rizz tier harem Mc is the reason this franchise isnt cool or fun anymore. At least the year of Shadow had more discussion and awesome moments.

Fans rather self insert into a character who's a coward, bitchless, a weakling who just makes exposition but needs to be rescued, even more than Amy.
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why are you interested in 100cm-tall animal people anon
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>>550489916
The gameplay used to be fun and I haven't gotten over it.
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rape correction
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>>550489873
Tails cucks are truly pathetic.
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>>550489916
they can do some pretty cool things and I think that's neat
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>>550489873
In other words we need more Shadow. Even over Tails and Knuckles. At least we'll have coolness happening and not a lame loser kid who doesnt do anything.
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>>550489916
they have really big boobs
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>>550489020
>>550489449
>>550489694
>>550490096
Why arent fans into making Shadow a chad or masculine? Aka badass?
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>>550490203
Shadow is so fucking cool and badass bros... I want to peg him and see if his voice goes as high as his voice actor's
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>>550490432
He uses "Boku Wa" like a bitch and not "Ore Wa" like a chad.
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>>550490432
He says "Boku"
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The Shitdow kiddies must be off school for the holidays
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>>550489173
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>>550490559
LITERALLY MY EXACT THOUGHTS EVERYTIME
HOLY SHIT
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way better than shittails spam and idw waifushit
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Only Metaera fags hate Shadow.
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>>550489873
niggerdow
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>>550489474
I think Mephiles just acts and looks more like a Japanese villain with a typical all-according-to-plan attitude should, more so than Eggman who can't resonate with them. He does have a pretty tragic story where he dindu nuffin and was all fine minding his own business until evil scientists messed with him, but his looks, calmness and calculating nature are probably it. Hope the Nips succeed in forcing Sega to bring him back for real
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>>550487764
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>>550490856
I don’t hate him, just his obnoxious low IQ fans
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>>550490130
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>>550490769
The waifurs are the only good thing about IDW
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>>550490984
Fair, I feel the exact same way about Tails.
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>fails
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>>550491015
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>>550491127
>Ai slop
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>>550490965
I have seen some of the hottest porn ever drawn with this OC its actually fucking crazy.
>>550491127
>One cream lid, one blue
AI trying to please all Sonic fans. That looks like shit, btw
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>Surge displays her cock
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>>550489173
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>>550491148
read that as "sugar-queer"
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>>550491204
>failsfag
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>>550491297
Nooooo, now she has to move the goalposts further!
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>he took a day to figure out the new captcha
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Archiefags clearly hate the games
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Did someone say Tails?
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>>550491265
>I have seen some of the hottest porn ever drawn with this OC its actually fucking crazy.
and you're not gonna share with the class????
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>>550490392
Some do, yes.
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>>550487943
>sageposting
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>>550491297
Ohnonononono Kracksissies WHAT'S THIS?
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>>550491493
I purged my phone for space for more illegally downloaded music, sorry. Wish I had it
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>>550491265
>hottest porn ever drawn
With my Custard? May I see it?
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>>550490965
This reminds me of some of my dumbass OCs I made in Forces. Maybe I should post them.
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>>550491461
Gorgeous boy.
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>>550491448
Maybe the games would be more liked, if they were better made. Just a theory.
>>550491683
Like I said, it is lost, I am sorry.
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>>550490925
I don't because what do you do with a character that had a sympathetic reason to be upset but took it too far? You either put him on a redemption path or you have him double-down because he's mad you stopped him and now he hates you (Sonic/Shadow/Silver/etc).
I don't find it all that interesting to bring him back. I've also just never liked his visual design, even if I understand why he looks like Shadow both his disguise and creature form.
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>>550491686
Yeah, go for it!

>>550491797
Damn. Got a description please?
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>>550491618
Understandable, no worries
>>550491683
If I could draw porn well I'd do it just to please you. Maybe someday..
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>>550491701
>Ai slop
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im going to fuck women
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>>550491885
Gotta stop mobilefagging and get on my PC first
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Discussion currently in the 5chan General
>people asking for a Lost World rerelease (Sonic Lost World is the second best reviewing Sonic game in Japan behind Adventure)
>people panicking over Switch 2 news along with them realizing Crossworlds isn’t getting a physical release on the system until it’s too late
>some dude spamming it asking for a crossover with Chrono Trigger I believe
>them begging for Sega to stop with the vtubers
>people saying Frontiers is unplayable because of its story
>users complaining about American Sonic saying they want him to be like “Spiderman with Goku powers”
>requests to fire more of the current staff
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>>550491907
Draw some anyway if you like. I'm sure she'll love it.
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Tails!
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>>550492162
mkay. I'll do it when the time comes, gotta get lotsof stuff out of the way first
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>>550491509
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>>550490559
>>550490581
So? Jotaro Kujo says Boku and hes as manly as cigars.
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>>550489173
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>>550492284
cute squishy brain
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>>550492126
>>users complaining about American Sonic saying they want him to be like “Spiderman with Goku powers”
Archiefags who hate the games love the idea of changing Sonic's personality
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>>550492115
Good luck!
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>>550492242
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>>550492305
He's also a dolphin fetishist that ignores his wife due to autism and forgot his daughter for 16 years
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>>550492305
Cigars are for old people.
About as manly as erectile dysfunction
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Why are Archie fans obsessed with changing the way Sonic behaves and ruining it for everyone else?
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>>550491227
>Fake and Fraud
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>>550489916
I got tricked into thinking this series was good 25 years ago.
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There is every reason to be upset.
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>>550492284
>sageposting
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Boku, Shadow's pronoun in JP, is typically used by boys. Boku was originally from words like geboku (manservant) and kouboku (public servant), which signify servants, but it began to be used by young men to refer humbly to themselves. It's often used to portray oneself as a gentle or harmless male. For reference, the only other Sonic characters that use "boku" are Tails, Charmy, and Big.
Even journos like it.
https://dengekionline.com/article/202410/21824
>I like that Shadow uses 'boku' as his first-person pronoun. When you think of a cool, unsociable rival, 'ore' is usually the more common pronoun, but Shadow's 'boku' gives off an air of immaturity and danger. This is also in contrast to Sonic, who is an accomplished hero. It's a stark contrast to his usual cool and reliable demeanor, and combined with his inability to be honest, he really does bring out the maternal instinct. I think there are many fans who secretly want to take care of Shadow.

>>550490694
>>550491297
Nobody ever claimed he can't do it once in a while. The problem is that it shouldn't be his default expression that he wears constantly. Every screenshot you post shows him with that expression for just a few seconds before he quickly snaps back to his usual sharp, serious look. It's honestly like you're purposely trying to ruin the character. Look at all the Shadow stock art by Uekawa, he doesn't fucking do that there because that's not an expression he makes all the time.
Halflidshitters infuriate me. They have to deliberately twist peoples' words because they have no ground to stand on. You don’t like Shadow. You probably want Archieshit. You prefer his overly sanitized fan-approved version that would never hurt a fly. You’re the Shadowfag equivalent of a Uwuverfag, a blight, an insult to everyone who actually likes the characters as they are. The level of stupidity here is truly mind-blowing. I forget I have to talk to Sonic fans like I would a disabled child.
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>>550492510
You give a dead comic too much authority
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>>550492601
this desu
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>>550492528
Same
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I wish this was me, bros
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>>550490862
>Outdated hasten trying to screw the ULF
>You have this saved

Pathetic incel post
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>>550492645
I don't know why he's constantly trying to get us to talk about something he hates.
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Dude i fucking love walls of text i will never reads.
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>>550492616
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>>550490862
Remember when we trolled Crash into thinking he was getting a cartoon by Wildbrain? Good times.
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>>550492804
yeah
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>>550492623
Based
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i like foxes
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>>550492937
They do make for pleasent decor
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>>550491227
>Knuckles and Rouge after the Sonic Gens Party.
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>>550492623
I'm only posting from the games though.
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>>550491979
>Reality is pic related
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>>550483971
Send your voice requests and discussion topics here. I feel pretty good today about doing more complex and higher quality requests so feel free to send some comics or more 'cinematic' requests.
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Super Mario Eclipse is a better open world game than Sonic Frontiers.
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>>550492983
>sageposting
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>>550492126
Nothings funnier than seeing the Japanese review scores compared to ours
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>>550492881
I will oblige, I love that fucking mess. It's dogshit but crazy and I fuck with that. It's such a fun read when you don't take it seriously
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>>550493315
>Shadow and Rouge after Knuckles' 'romantic dinner'
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>>550492494
>Beta cucks against what is actually the highest level of manly, Jotaro like Shadow, Frank Castle, and Dirty Harry are lone wolf manly

Take the L
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>>550493520
>Forces
>35/40
Yeah, fuck the fags trying to tell me this series should be handled by the Japanese.
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/vpklskk028do9f9/TangleLemurSRCW+HD.rar/file
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>>550493438
>he wasted a day to figure out the captcha
The seethe is tangible.
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>>550492806
>t. Uwuver-loving literal faggot
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>>550493520
>SA2 lower than lost world, forces, and frontiers
am I being trolled
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>>550493835
oh lawd it's the infinite sandwich
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>>550493691
Just got reminded of my childhood with this. I remember the animated version though does anybody got the SAUCE?
https://voca.ro/12iqOXSXJfRX
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.rar?
I am NOT clicking that
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>>550493315
>half-lid shit
Krack help!
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>>550493520
They loved Mario Galaxy but Sonic
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>>550493809
tangle blender model
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>>550493372
Yeah you have no rebuttal.
He should be doing it 5% of the time, not 95%. How is spamming refuting this?
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>>550493516
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>>550493731
I got a rails to complete the trifecta.
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>>550493898
topkek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TI4dS5xkQU
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>>550493315
>pic related is actually canon and in character

Shadiuge > Knuxouge
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>>550493893
>after eating the infinite sandwich
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>>550494276
Dude
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>>550492494
________ ______ _______ _______ _________ ____________ ________ ____ _________ _______ ______ ________ ____ ______ ______________ ______ ______ ______ ______ _______ yes ______ ____ _____ ____ ________ ________ _________ ________ _____ ______ ________ ___________ __________ ________ ______
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It's fine, it's just a blender file.
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>>550494140
Take the L, Tails sucks
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>>550493456
Archie is ooc shit for people who hate the games and want to ruin the characters. Fuck off.
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>>550494359
does the owner of this cig smoking guy allow people to lewd him
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Rouge who?
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>>550494096
the corners of the logo looked like amogus at a glance
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>>550494134
Where do you get most of your sageposts, anon?
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>>550494480
But I love the games. Can I stay? Oh pwease oh pwease let me stay your highness!
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https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/vg.meta/filename/1000028%2A/filter/text/
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/vg.meta/filename/1000027%2A/filter/text/
Most annoying Silverfaggot ever award
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>>550494446
Change your diaper, edgelord.
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>>550494483
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>>550493456
There has never been a time where the mandates made a story worse. The alternative was always something stupid and off brand. The comics shouldn't keep trying to completely change the characters.
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>>550494480
I love Archie and the games, cope
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>>550493993
>spam
It was 5 examples anon. Relax.
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>>550494506
Do it anyway.
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I'm going to peg Shadow and lick him and he will be MY property, you aren't allowed to post him. Only I get to post him. Fuck you.
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>>550494751
No matter how hard my cock gets for someone's oc I'll never draw porn of it without permission.
That's just me tho
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>>550494745
But it affected her like 50.
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>>550494673
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>>550494827
oops.
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Alright shadow, you asked for it.
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>>550495003
I laughed
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>>550494896
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>>550494889
I'm pretty sure he's cool with it.
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Shadow and Lanolin don't have any ships because they're shipless tards
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>>550494483
I don't get it, why is she messing with Tails of all people? Doesn't she have Kit?
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>>550494713
People who say this inevitably expose that they don't know anything about Sonic. This is the only way. Nobody who knows Game Sonic and Archie Sonic's full personality can genuinely claim to like both.
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>>550494891
>Still no rebuttal
I bet you defend pic related
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>>550495098
women
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>>550495143
Sure why not?
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>>550494506
You can do whatever you want with him. He belongs to sthg as far as I'm concerned.
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>>550495003
Why did Tails draw off model Shadally
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>>550493848
I want to do gay shit with my /sthg/bros
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>>550495198
>Sure why not?
Halflidshitters ARE the Uwuverfags of Shadow...
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>>550495336
Imagine caring that much
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SMUGiona is here to laugh at (You)!

She thinks shipping is for losers!
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Lettuce is garbage
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>>550495385
I care about Shadow more than any disgusting human
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I care about Krack
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>>550495245
Thank you. All in due time.
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Wanted to commission that Dulcy x Shadow piece, but no artist is answering, are Twitter DMs broken rn or what?
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>>550495143
I'm not going to sperg out and write an essay about cartoon characters if that's what you're asking.
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>>550495482
And none of your whining has ever mattered despite that, imagine that.
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>>550495450
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>>550495450
What are you talking about? Lettuce is amazing. I can't picture a sandwich without it
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>>550495584
So is defending Silver's mischaracterization
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>>550493520
>Shad05 was so edgy the japs couldn't even rate it
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>>550495526
>no lids
canon and in-character
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>>550495561
But my whining has mattered. I live rent free.
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>>550495526
Yes and it's almost Xmas so probably busy too.
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You're burning bridges because of Silver's characterization
It isn't worth it really
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>>550495696
I don't even know who you are.
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Shadow invaded my personal space.
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>>550495143
Silver is the cutest hedgehog so I'm ok with this.
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>>550494713
I like the games and Archie and IDW and the shows. I've never read Fleetway or any of the mangas, but I'd probably like them too. I like Sonic :D
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>>550495696
>rent free
>>550492623
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>>550495526
>Dulcy x Shadow
What? Why? For what purpose? How does the sex work? Is she the dom?
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>>550495129
Sega took Kit to the back of the shed and shot him
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>>550495437
take off your clothes
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>>550495846
Gigabased. Try out Fleetway. It ends on a cliffhanger but it's pretty wild and cool.
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>>550494584
Mainly Pixiv and Xitter.
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Pregnant shadow giving birth to tails.
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>>550493315
>This got Shadouge fags (or that one shadouge schizo faggot) instantly seething after they get instantly triggered by a harmless ship post and initiate the Knuckles Rouge Shadow fight for the umpteenth time
Kek. Knuxouge won.
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>>550495749
IDW fans should be treated like snap cube fans
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>>550495437
I'm shipping you to Antarctica
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>>550495912
>why
Anon requested
>how does it work
idk
>is she the dom
probably
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>>550495846
Liking every piece of slop with sonic's face on it doesn't make you a good fan or a "chad".
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>>550495749
The hate is deserved. Uwuver is the worst thing done to any character.
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how good sonic characters are at poker
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>>550496172
He's more popular than ever because of Uwuver tho. Everyone hated him before this.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=dcBi0ByPVAE
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>>550495846
A lot of people are like this but the guy sperging is genuinely insane and physically cannot perceive someone not having the exact same views and tastes on Sonic as he does while still "liking Sonic"
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>>550495437
I'm shipping you with Antarctica
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>>550496254
Stick would wear mirror shades and blame the government for losing.

>>550496325
They need to get laid. This franchise is most fun when you enjoy what you like, rather than following some sort of bunk ass continuity no one cares about.
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>>550495137
>People who say this inevitably expose that they don't know anything about Sonic.
No. What it shows is that people aren't autistically obessed with the writting of pulpy childrens' media. Not to say that I don't want Sonic's writting to improve, I do. But finding an intellectual sounding way to frame your autism and then acting like everyone who doesn't sperg out in the same way is retarded is not the way to make that happen.
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>>550494709
https://voca.ro/1hZ24q2EmQFr
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>>550496024
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>>550496482
>Not to say that I don't want Sonic's writting to improve, I do
I hate Us vs Them culture for facilitating the necessity of pointing that out.
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>>550495716
fuck me
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>>550496546
otp
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>>550496523
This man only drops TRVTH NVKES
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>>550496254
Sonic - just a dude
Shadow - unreadable, because he never halflids
Knuckles - doesn't know how the game works
Tails - has all the stats memorized and always plays based on the expected value his hand has. Has no clue that he always gives himself away.
Rouge - great at reading people, and is well dressed for the occasion
Amy - constantly orgasming because she loves cards so much
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>>550496482
Every time an Archiefag learns about windnic they think it sucks and every time a gamefag learns about Archie they puke at all the OOC garbage.
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>>550496824
Only happens in your head.
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>>550496815
>Amy
made me laugh out loud holy shit
good one
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>>550496254
Vector and Espio are good at it.
Eggman is good at it, but he is a sore loser and will sometimes cheat.
Rouge always cheats.
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>>550496975
thx
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>>550494512
>>550494652
>>550494673
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>>550495983
>You tailsfags made this series unappealing to casuals and are totally disturbed virgins

Shame on you
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>>550496815
>Shadow - unreadable, because he never halflids
lol
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>>550497182
no, you wouldn't
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>>550495998
>tdlr knuxouge
>Never gonna happen according to sega
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>>550496997
Why did he go back to calling tom donut lord in the third movie? I didn't like that.
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>>550496523
I read all of IDW. The mandates unironically did nothing to ruin the comic
>No humans
not a Sega mandate, that's just the writers and artitsts archiefagging because they don't care about the world of the games
>shadow acting like an aggressive retard
Sega never mandated this. They mandated that Shadow can't lose a fight when he takes off his inhibitor rings. Ian Flynn goes out of his way to portray Shadow as a vicious cunt because he doesn't like that Team Dark aren't friends or GUN agents. Sega never told him to make Shadow act like this and he never even insinuated as much
>Sonic can't cry/lose/have a girlfriend/be wrong about anything
People who have a problem with this are all either being intellectually dishonest or they never liked the way the video games were written. Sonic has never actually had to take away a lesson in the games. Even in the games where he struggles the world was wrong while he was right. The rest was just never correct
>tangle and whisper can't be in a relationship because that isn't part of their original concept
This one is genuinely stupid but doesn't actually affect the story in any way

>
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>>550497301
Why not?
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>>550497301
prove it
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>>550497151
Award for mass reply, nigger.
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>>550495998
Knux who?
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>>550497349
>according to sega
>posts shadow not loving rouge or acknowledging her "advances" again
Shadouge never got started
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>>550497449
Hes not wrong
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>>550497721
need more rouge silly faces
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it took so long for Sega to come up with approval notes for the Shadow oneshot comic that it got delayed for two years and then canceled
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>>550497803
Maybe the IDW staff should've reigned in their autism and just written Shadow normally without having to be told.
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>>550497721
>Posts non canon animation
>new animation by your logic has Shadow saving Rouge and expressing concern for her safety

Shadouge is going no where and is here to stay.
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>>550498005
Shadow is for blondes and Rouge is for Wade, I simply don't know what else to tell you.
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>>550496523
I don't understand you at all. The comic is out of character. The mandates made it in character. If they didn't want to have their whole story "burned down" they shouldn't have made it out of character in the first place. Sonic's 1991 character descriptions would have been fine. Instead they gave us dogshit
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>she hasn't figured out that canon is a marketing tool
Ngmi
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>>550498005
>>Posts non canon animation
>>new animation by your logic has Shadow saving Rouge and expressing concern for her safety
>Shadouge is going no where and is here to stay.

>Posts a non canon animation in response by his own metric
>Shadow saving Rouge only because of Maria's promise again on top of this
kek
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>>550496523
>these guidelines were somehow too difficult for archie to follow
>so they kept building on their own bullshit year after year until they were forced to reboot and cleanse themselves of mischaracterization
No fucking shit?
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>>550498329
at least attach a sonic related image
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>>550496254
>>550496815
I think Shadow would be the best poker player in the cast.
>Completely unreadable
>Extremely intelligent
>Quick-witted and able to apply new info to his situation flawlessly
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>>550495998
Knux won.
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male hedgehogs circle females as a key part of their elaborate courtship ritual, a noisy, shuffling "dance" involving persistent circling, nudging, and snorting to woo a female for mating, though she often resists at first.
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>>550498492
he would get distracted because he's too busy thinking about muhria
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>>550498586
Mephiles is a girl?
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>>550498005
Shadow also saved Sonic. This means Sonadow is canon. Because obviously, saving someone makes them your lover. Right Shadougenigger?
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>>550490862
crashdowposting was funny
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>>550497407
https://voca.ro/1kFyYHlCBDga
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>>550498704
If you want him to be
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>>550495998
the romantic dinner was true
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>>550498734
>This means Sonadow is canon.
Makes sense to me.
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>>550498521
Shadow wouldn't give a single fuck if Rouge dated Knuckles. He probably overhears them fucking and ignores it.
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>Sonic Prime was allowed to make thinly veiled Sonadow with touchy-feely moments
>IDW isn't allowed to do anything with Shadow
I guess that's what happens when your comic sells below 10k copies each volume, you don't get freedom
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>>550497924
Sega wouldn't let IDW have Shadow lose to their OC.
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>>550499142
>twitter
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>>550498089
Comics are not out of character they are their own continuity, universe, etc with it's own rules and charactizations. It's out of character to the GAMES but not to the comics. I've said this before. Many times.
>>550498421
https://voca.ro/11pWtY2ba1MF
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>>550499293
>Comics are not out of character they are their own continuity, universe, etc with it's own rules and charactizations
Thank you. Many forget this.
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>>550499142
>Shadow we are leaving
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So is Metal Sonic supposed to be a jobber or take the whole team to take down? From what I see of IDW pages people post here it's like they fucking roll a dice and the outcome determines how tough he is this time
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>>550499705
Made for evil black and blue hedgehogs who were gods an' shieet
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>>550499518
>of IDW
Metal jobbing is not exclusive to that dogshit comic, unfortunately. My biggest complaint about IDW is they set up Metal for the Metal Virus arc, and then did nothing with it. I dont mind if he jobs but its unforgivable that they just ignored him like that, and their incessant need to try redeem him fucking sucks.
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>>550499293
Dude. This isn't logical. Archie spit on Sega's face first by not using his character outline and insisting on their own lore and characterization. Anyone who does that is going to get forced to reign it in. This is what happened to Bleach. It is literally the exact same thing. Bleach's anime kept adding shit that was never in the manga, attempted to push a pairing that doesn't exist in the manga and now there are factions of the fandom that hate each other just because the fucking anime couldn't stick to the basic concepts they were given and just HAD to play around and fuck with the characters.
Archie is out of character and deserved everything it got. They shouldn't have bothered to hire Ian onto IDW.
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>>550499514
Archie Shadow was a drone for eggman in those times. he hadn't resolved his memory loss arc yet. yeah i hated that. the more anyone tried to do anything with shadow's memory loss, including in the games, the more i hated that crap
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>>550499823
To be fair, Metal being up for redemption or at least leaving Eggman may be Sega's idea, I say this based on Crossworlds dialogue.
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>>550499991
Don't bother with archiefags. They literally hate the games. They can't stand the idea of Sonic actually acting like Sonic. They need him to be brought down to earth and relatable.
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>>550499514
The Ultimate Lapdog
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>>550498817
Of course Sonic should win in the end, what the fuck do you mean? How is this a bad thing? In every game he always wins. I would argue that IDW actually makes this a problem more than the games do because Sonic is constantly saying shit like "we win every time" and acting extremely uncaring about saving the world, completely ruining any sort of suspension of disbelief.
Sonic not crying is not a bad thing either. He does express emotion but he's not a pathetic fucking baby about it. Wanting him to cry for the sake of crying is projection.
He does struggle too, in most games' stories. There is a conflict that he has to face hurdles in overcoming. I literally can't list them all because it would take so long. This is how you can tell IDW fans hate the games and don't play them.
Sonic does have flaws, it's just that they're not framed in the stories as something he needs to change about himself. Of course you see this as a bad thing, though. Your mention of the "hero's journey" tells me everything I need to know about your narrow views.
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>>550500058
you wanted him to inmediately recover from the amnesia with no in between?
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>>550499991
>deserved everything it got
Over 500 individual issues through a 24 year run and a beloved legacy that still makes unhappy niggers mad?
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>>550500183
Maybe if Sonic actually acted like Sonic there wouldn't have been a problem. The Freedom Fighters would have been fine if they weren't glued to an OOC version of Sonic. But NO the stupid fucking comic has to change everything and be nothing like the games.
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>>550500174
>Metal Sonic
>being redeemed
CAN WE STOP REDEEMING EVERYONE?!
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>>550500379
>and be nothing like the games
No wonder it was successful
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>Good evening, 47.

>Your destination is Tokyo, birthplace for a multitude of eastern-made franchises and the powerhouse of japan's entertainment industry, where Sonic Team will host a private creative summit.
>Our primary target is Takashi Lizuka, studio head, supervisor, and the man responsible for steering a once-straightforward franchise into what he calls a “unified narrative experience.” He prefers controlled environments, rehearsed talking points, and an audience that won’t challenge him.
>According to our client, Lizuka's vision and misdirection has cost the brand its identity, particularly after recent attempts to merge comic and game continuities.
>Our client claims this inevitably hurts the Sonic franchise, by completely neglecting important "relationships" and dynamics inside the plot.
>Several senior directors will be attending the summit. They are not required targets, but the client has authorized bonuses for each one you eliminate.

>Security will be discreet. The egos will not.

>I will leave you to prepare.
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>>550500251
i wanted no fucking amnesia.
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>>550500249
I'm sorry, I don't know this character. Is that perchance Sonic the Hedgehog's wife?
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>>550498817
Sonic doesn't go on heroes journeys because he's the wind: https://youtu.be/fg8TkMtf9es?si=bC5rRtS4B7T5nd_0
>that's what heroes are supposed to do
He is not a hero.
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>>550495632
A delicious peanut butter, lettuce, and jelly sandwich
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>>550500575
>not a hero
CONSULT THE RULEBOOK. YES HE IS.
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>Archiefags can't comprehend the fact that Sonic isn't supposed to lose or struggle
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>>550500414
to be fair it sounds more like he will just betray Eggman again if Sega bothers to actually give him presence in a game, he is a menace in Silver's future so he has outlived literally everyone in the cast (Shadow and Sage included) except Zavok and his friends.
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>gamefags cant comprehend that windnic is unpopular
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>>550500575
He is one
Him saying he isn't one, tho he said the opposite, multiple times, doesn't change anything. Doesn't change the fact that his actions are heroic
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>>550500671
>male teens aren't a target at all
No wonder the edgekino is gone
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>>550500710
Archiefags are a different breed because they feel like fans of a completely different franchise
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>>550500671
Of course he's heroic, but he doesn't join a designated team called the freedom fighters with the goal and job of making the world a better place. That's not who Sonic is. They completely bastardized who Sonic is. It's like if Red's goal in life was to beat Team Rocket instead of that just being something he ended up doing after his journey started.
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>>550500575
>Because we are Sonic Heroes!
>Sonic Heroes video game (2004)
"gamefags" don't play the game and don't know who sonic is
Some anon was debating a so called "gamefag" the other day and that so called gamefag didn't play SA2 apparently (aka the most important sonic game ever)
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>>550500765
Okay I'm fine with Neo 2.0
Also didn't Silver imply that Sage could still be in his future?
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>>550499138
knuxouge is literally nonexistent in the games retard. They do not have a dynamic.
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>>550500816
Funny thing about that is that 6-12 year old love Sonic.exe, it is a huge pillar of the fandom even. Yet they dont want that audience either.

>>550500873
Sonic Forces. Resistance. Japanese made game. Next?
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This is why the freedom fighters would never work in canon. Archiefags would be utterly devastated that Sonic wouldn't actually join them for more than a short period and that he would have nothing to learn from them.
Being fair to Archiefags here, game Sonic with the freedom fighters sounds bad. It would just be all of them learning random life lessons from Sonic instead of both characters bouncing off of each other.
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>my ship matters more thannyourse because she blushed at him once 20 years ago in pinball sonic game
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>>550500710
Is Sonic supposed to be a Mary Sue?
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>>550501075
They would work just fine.
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>>550501075
>Freedom fighters wouldnt work
>"core 4" would work somehow despite being a diet hacked around version of the same dynamic
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>>550501074
>Sonic escapes jail and saves the world in a single day before fucking off
>Game repeatedly shoves down your throat that everyone who isn't Sonic is useless
>The game even says that nature summoned classic Sonic out of nowhere because the earth needs a Sonic because he's so perfect
>This is somehow the same as the freedom fighters

No fuck you. We are not using Forces as an example of anything.
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>>550499991
https://voca.ro/1iAwRBpQBiSt
>>550500243
https://voca.ro/1ngkxVQmWbRs
>>550500575
The wind is just an excuse to not write Sonic to be anything more than a inoffensive bland and marketable to literal children and no one else. Also did you even play the games? Sonic is obviously a hero.
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>>550501175
Momthrowers are getting too uppity. Might have to be put in their place again soon
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>>550501267
It is a Japanese game and you can not ignore it, you disingenuous faggot. You cant have cake and eat it too you fat cunt.
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>rails
>knuxouge
>shadouge
>sonouge
All canon because rouge is a whore
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>>550500984
No he did not, in fact he outright said Eggman Empire is long since gone, so either Sage betrays Eggman and just lives her life or she tries to continue his legacy and fails. The only characters he confirms are in his future are the Zeti (but he may be referring to them as a race and not individuals) and Metal
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>>550501243
Why do archie fans post this singular panel as if "Talking to the wind" isn't already just a euphemism? Sally was not referencing the japanese lore here. I don't know why you're pretending she was. The truth is that if Sonic Team was monitoring this comic Sonic wouldn't have to learn a fucking thing and that would kneecap the story. I doubt you disagree with this.

That Ben Hurst quote is meaningless when Sonic is completely out of character in the actual satam series.
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>>550501310
>Also did you even play the games? Sonic is obviously a hero.
Those "gamefags" and "jp pfurists" you are arguing with dont play the games. they are just undercover shippers who are offended by brown chipmunks. so they larp as "windfags" while simultaneously push for a ship with a pink rat in.
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>>550483971
I care about you Kit
SEGA needs to treat you better
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>>550501376
this
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>>550501310
I think Sonic IS an interesting person and character the way he is and I think you just hate the games. Don't know what to tell you.
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>>550501175
Shadougefags be like, but on Shadow's side (without any blushing).
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>>550501451
>Metal
it's concerning what Metal without Sonic and Eggman will become. Or maybe he will just work for Nega (if Nega isn't retconned yet)
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>>550501310
>Sonic
>Hero

I'll put it like this. Ash Ketchum is a hero. Ash Ketchum saved the world over a hundred times. But Ash's goal in life isn't to save the day. He hasn't made it his life mission to shut down Team Rocket once and for all and put them in jail. He doesn't go around fighting crime. He stops crises as they start to happen because from his own perspective he's just a guy. Sonic's morality isn't much different. Sonic is a hero. Sonic is not a capital H "Hero" in the sense that Spider-man or the lone ranger are.
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>>550501452
>Why do archie fans post this singular panel as if "Talking to the wind" isn't already just a euphemism? Sally was not referencing the japanese lore here.
I know.
the point here is Sonic will do whatever the fuck he wants. as written in the text above and demonstrated in the panel below. despite what your nerdy smartass thinks. "wind" behavior
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>>550501639
>I think you just hate the games
You don't get to decide that, btw, hope this helps.
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>>550499138
knuxouge is literally existent in the games. They have a tsundere rival dynamic.
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>>550501639
>>550501713
Modern Sonic 'windnic' is garbage and I will not compromise. JUST LIKE SONIC WOULD BABY!
https://voca.ro/1eIXc2S2zKxH
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What's funny is that shadougefags really only have one hyper agressive person. The rest of them are either chill or don't care. Meanwhile, knuxougefags have a BUNCH of hyper-obsessed individuals in this thread alone. If they were half as active and not afterschool tourists the ship would probably have a much worse reputation here.
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>>550501750
>decide
Weird way to phrase that. I am just looking at the context and seeing someone vehemently hate what makes Sonic the way he is. Clearly you don't hold a lot of passion or love for the games' storytelling if you're acting that way.
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>>550501921
>twitter
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>>550501310
>Archie Sonic was never an adaptation of game Sonic
Why not? Why shouldn't it have been? There were other Sonic manga running around the time and a Sonic OVA and they managed to keep Sonic's character consistent with what was given to them meanwhile Archie raped everything.
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>in Silver's future, all the remains from the present is Metal Sonic and the Zeti
what sort of disaster do you think Silver's future lives in? No it's not like 06 because that timeline got erased.
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>>550502001
ok, that one hyper agressive shadougefag bro
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>>550502017
Okay, lemme rephrase. No one is going to listen to some random internet cunt's opinion on whether THEY like Sonic or not. You simply can not control if someone else enjoys Sonic even if you incorrectly think they are wrong about it. Your opinion is meaningless, to boil it down further.
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what the fuck is this captcha system
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>>550502086
maybe everything is fine now and he is just coming back because he nas no friends in the future
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>>550502086
Chadvok takes over Eggman's robot armada after he dies and conquers the planet
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Why is the concept that different people like Sonic for different reasons so hard for people to understand?
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>>550501310
Sonic Chronicles comes out, Sega of Japan now has to send suits to question why a freelance writer thinks he owns concepts that appear in the game. Sega of Japan is now monitoring the actual plot of the main series Archie comic instead of delegating notes to Sonic Universe. Do you sincerely see a scenario where the response isn't "Sonic isn't act like Sonic change it"

I'm not defending Sega here. I think it makes for an Archie fan to hate this but do you seriously think any other scenario could have happened? Did you think they were going to be any more reasonable??
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>>550502076
Archie was better than everything past Sonic 06 tho.
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>>550502076
https://voca.ro/1gBwcQuOJACy
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all ships fucking SUCK.... even that one ........
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>>550502086
Pride month every month, suicides in front of you every day
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>>550502215
Okay? By your logic, your opinion is also meaningless. Why should I even listen to you?
I am aware my posts will fall on deaf ears, as all internet arguments do. So what? I can still post my thoughts. What are you going to do?
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>>550502348
It isn't, they just don't like you doing that.
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>>550502323
>Metal Sonic was the only one smart enough to make himself non-magnetic
For being a genius Eggman didn't really think things through
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>>550502348
You are trying to get through to a woman with ODD. The game was rigged from the start.

>>550502425
I ship Sonic x Adventure
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Does Espio also have a iferiority complex?
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>>550501310
I know you're saying that last part as a joke but windnic would genuinely just figure out the entire crisis immediately. Sonic in the new manga is introduced knowing almost all the new lore already because he's Sonic.
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>>550502303
He's extremely blunt he would've said something about it, but he's just acting all anxious coming back meaning he never even wants to.
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>>550502552
Ever since knuckles stole his spotlight in chaotix
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>>550501921
>AIEEEE I SAID TOO MUCH EGGMAN NOW WON IN THE FUTURE
>oh whatever I guess I have an excuse to go back to the past to my actual friends and not stay in the 5000 times changed future where I don't really know anyone
>smilingwhitegayhedgehog.jpg

>>550502086
Seems like Shadow still gets fucked over by the humanity. Silver seems to have issues with Metal **he says he isn't losing to Metal "today", which implies there were times where he has lost to him in the future** and also Zeti but he only knows Shadow from the past, so either Shadow doesn't give a shit about anyone anymore and therefore broke his promise to Muhrya, or he's more likely dead and/or captured
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>>550489873
>Fans rather self insert into a character who's a coward, bitchless, a weakling
That's what a "self-insert" character actually is. Self-insert characters are meant to be loser underdog types that are relatable to the audience.

Sonic, Shadow, etc are NOT the self-insert characters because they are super cool giga chad GODS that you desperately wish you could be. They are the ones that you would "self-insert" as the same way Tails himself would because Tails is the representation of (You) aspiring to be like Sonic.

If you wanna be Sonic, you wanna be Shadow, you wanna be "cool", then guess what?

YOU ARE TAILS.
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>>550502453
>By your logic, your opinion is also meaningless. Why should I even listen to you?
Correct and you shouldn't. But you being a whiny little bitch is annoying. And you vastly misunderstand the whole point of this series and it's pathetic. That's all.
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The sonic franchise ends with shadails.
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>>550501310
Sonic 3
>Sonic is spoken of in legend on a mural as the being that will save the world from Eggman's machines
Underground
>Sonic is royalty
Sonic Adventure
>Sonic is the only one in 5000 year to even consider making Chaos less angry
Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic is identical to the ultimate genetic experiment made 35 years before he was born
Sonic X
>Cosmo has heard of Sonic for some reason
>Sonic is the only person on planet earth to innately remember that the earth revolves
Sonic Heroes
>Sonic is the only person in team Sonic who can go super
Sonic 06
>Sonic can't actually die, he just turns into the wind
Sonic Riders
>Sonic is better at Extreme Gear than people who have been doing it their entire lives
Sonic Storybook games
>The characters of legend already know who Sonic is
Sonic Boom
>Sonic is remembered across history for trapping Lyric before he even knows who Lyric is
Sonic Forces
>Without Sonic, the world will go to hell
>Sonic is so important that the universe will summon a Sonic from the multiverse if Sonic is ever incapacitated
Sonic Frontiers
>Sonic is the only mortal strong enough to escape cyber space, and the only mortal who can tolerate cyber corruption
Sonic Prime
>The world will go to hell if Sonic doesn't exist
>Tails would become an introverted psychopath if Sonic wasn't in his life
>After two days of meeting Sonic, everyone is willing to throw their lives away for him even if his death is the only thing that would save them all
Sonic films
>Each of Sonic's quills has enough power to fuel a nuclear bomb.
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>>550502665
>Metal Sonic beats the shit out of Silver in the future to prove he is the superior hedgehog
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>>550502353
https://voca.ro/1eTdgMZ50VHA
>>550502585
>windnic would genuinely just figure out the entire crisis immediately.
wow that sounds like an incredibly interesting story to read and witness!....Fuck nnnoooa.
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>>550483971
I feel so bad for him I wanna hug him and tell him everything will be okay
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>>550502552
>Aren't I cool and powerful enough to warrant one
>literally the ugliest model I've seen on him
I am gonna embrace AI at this point because these models suck that bad.
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What a dumpster fire.
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>>550502694
Okay. Thank god you're done.
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>>550502814
Metal and Silver probably threw one another multiple times for dominance and got hit by a stray debris and they both surrendered.
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>>550502932
Post more fox to make it better
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>>550502959
>Thank God you stopped owning me
Hahaha, have a good day.
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Archie, Satam, and IDWfags all seem to get mad at people who prefer the characterizations from the videogames in this videogame series for some reason. Everyone just kind of mentions "Colors" offhand as if that's an instant win. Why? What is actually wrong with the characterization in Colors aside from the jokes? The jokes aren't even the "Story" in colors and they aren't in the japanese version of the game either. So what the fuck is your point? He said Mcnosehair? Ooh scary.

So yeah that's better than turning him into a generic teen hero jock hero like Archie/Satam or making him an arrogant dismissive but redemption obsessed freak like in IDW
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Pppfftt
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What Archiefags think is "good writing"
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>>550502665
>he says he isn't losing to Metal "today", which implies there were times where he has lost to him in the future
Or it means he won against him every time and now he has to specify when he beats him.
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>>550503104
>Maybe this post will rally them.... n-no?.. a-anyone
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>>550502440
>for you Blaze I will go back in time again and again so you never go through your hormone replacement therapy
tragic
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>>550502665
>Metal GAPES Silver at least once or twice a week
Based. Metal vs. Silver rivalry when
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>>550503136
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>>550503283
You now have to join the deadly six , kit
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>>550502768
https://voca.ro/136NdHuAJ5tL
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>>550503136
DELETE THIS I BEG YOU
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>>550503104
Because Sonic is clearly "over it" just like in the Boom games. Sonic didn't become popular by being a cynical chucklefuck who acts like saving the world is just an annoyance. Just retire and give Knuckles his own game already.
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>>550502678
Am I a cute genius fox with two tails??? Hell yeah

>>550502814
Metal can't be "that" bad if he spares Silver when he loses, but who the fuck is repairing him when he takes damage or inevitably loses? Does he have scientist groupies, or does he have maintenance robots?
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>>550501916
You ignored my argument and mostly replied to the other anon. Sonic stopping eggman because he is fucking with his friends is not the same as Sonic being a freedom fighter who cares much about stopping evil. There's likely wars and crimes and tragedies in Sonic's world that he doesn't stop just like you don't. Sonic isn't a crime fighter.
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>>550501197
That's an enormous flaw in Sonic's character design. I get he's supposed to inspire others but no one, no matter how charismatic and inspiring, whether a real person or fictional, is perfect.
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>WAAAAAAAAHHHHH I CAN'T HANDLE THE PRESSURES OF BEING A HERO WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>550503202
Sissyver would have said something along the lines of I beat you before and I'll do it again or some shit. But he doesn't. 'Cause he is a sissy. And Metal gapes him.
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What if maria Robotnik said "FUCK" what would happen ??????
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>>550503604
A game where Sonic goes back to his baby self and Shadow takes care of him for mobile please
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>>550503604
Why are you crying so much over a dead comic?
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>>550501916
When people say Sonic isn't a hero they aren't being literal. Sonic isn't a vigilante. He is heroic. He is a hero who saves the world. He doesn't consider himself a hero and he doesn't join any groups to help that cause outside of the short term. He doesn't see it as his responsibility and often times he just does it because he thinks it's fun.

You praise SA2 and Black Knight and ignore the fact that neither of those games give him a lesson to learn aside from material facts. He doesn't become a better person by the end of the story, everyone else does. The stories you're complaining about fail to follow this formula because they attempt to maintain this while also having Sonic be the only character who does anything. these two things can't coexist and yet Sega forces it. That is the result.
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>>550503715
The ARK explodes.
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What if zavok said "MARRY ME TAILS" what would happen ??????
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>>550503104
comics were a mistake.
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>>550503715
She did, that’s why Shadow says it
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>>550502552
He was the original star of the Chaotix (the "Knuckles" bit was only added to the overseas versions) so I'm gonna say yeah.
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>>550503715
Spankings.
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>>550503405
You're mistaken about Shahra. She was in an implied abusive relationship and went back to Erazor because she still thought she loved him. She sacrified herself for Sonic in the end and died for him.
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>>550502001
Knuxouge is canon ,cope harder
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>>550502380
The OVA moment is in-character. Sonic letting you struggle if you're able to do it yourself is fine. Sonic jumps in when shit hits the fan. Even in the current manga he will let Yuuta, a human boy, fight Eggman on his own because he needs to for his own affirmation.
If you're begging for Sonic's help and you don't need it (Tails, who can fly, crying about a man in a falling plane over the OCEAN) then he won't help you. He's still a hero. He's still heroic. He's just not a superhero in the traditional sense.
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>>550503479
Metal can repair himself, though the idea that there's a group of Metal worshippers in the future that attend to him is funny.
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>>550503715
This happened unironically. Shadow was originally going to say fuck in his game. He learned it from her
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>>550503804
>Often times he just does it because he thinks it's fun
That's an oversimplification. Sonic does what he does not out of a sense of responsibility, but rather out of love, selflessness, and his own intuitive judgement of what he believes is good and evil.
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>>550501243
Satam Sonic does the "Wear her down" tactic on Sally. The inverse. He is the one attempting to tie her down. That is out of character. Satam is out of character and un-Sonic.
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>>550503804
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>>550504094
My bad I really don't remember much aside from the fact Shahra dying.
>>550504191
Both of these adaptations are out of character by game standards. I agree that for both of them he is not a traditional hero but the majority of the time Sonic is a hero. I'm arguing game Sonic is a hero.
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>>550503612
He was not even talking about Metal, he was talking about Sonic
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>>550502867
Murder of Sonic is the only game were he looks good though
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>>550504473
Sally is like the wind...
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>>550504398
I don't think that's contradictory in any way but sure. I'm thinking of examples like Shadow the Hedgehog where Sonic does have heroic motivations but at the same time it's pretty clear that he's doing a lot of this for his amusement.
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>>550504101
>Lego
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>>550504573
Okay. Metal gapes him still.
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People rarely point out that Sonic actually has his segasonic personality in most of the pilot episode of Satam and Sally bickering with him is a leftover from the idea that he isn't taking this situation very seriously and only doing it for fun.
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Ditch the whore.
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This bread is stale. Add more Shadria for flavor.
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>>550492298
GIWTWM
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Sonic can't run from his depression and trauma
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sex with shadriaryans
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>>550504857
>>550504871
now fuck
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>>550505232
I can't do that...
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>>550504556
Either I didn't word it correctly or you misunderstand me.
Sonic saving the world because it's fun is not a rigid thing. There are blatantly situations in the games where Sonic saves the world because it's the correct, moral thing to do. Sonic isn't a sociopath or terminally interested in fun. That is more like a deadpool or a Lupin than Sonic actually is.
Games like Black Knight, Shadow the Hedgehog, Adventure, and Rush show Sonic mostly having fun with the adventure even though everyone else is taking it seriously. His motivation switches once there is a real threat. There is no arguing with the assessment that Sonic saves the world because he has to because that is correct.

The difference is that he isn't a superhero. If there are bank robberies going on he isn't going to stop it unless he's nearby. In Archie there is a moment where Sonic goes on television to reassure the people of mobius that he is on the case and that the freedom fighters are here to help stableize the planet. This was an adaptation of Sonic Unleash, a game where that was explicitly not his motivation even though he did help people across the game.
I'm not even part of the "Archie has to be in character" bs. It's just that "Sonic is not a hero" is a blunt way of saying that he isn't a vigilante.

Think about it like this. The english word "Hero" in Japan is almost always treated as "Super hero" and "Super hero" is often considered a job. Sonic doesn't see it as his job. In Japan he's more like a smarter Goku than a Spidey.

Yes. Sonic is a hero. No, Sonic is not a "Hero". Get it?
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>>550504556
Sonic is not about "responsibility".

Knuckles is Sonic's opposite, and so it is KNUCKLES who embodies responsibility. Sonic is all about FREEDOM, and "responsibility" is antithetical to that.

What Sonic DOES with that freedom, whatever he wants to do, is driven by his good nature. He does what he thinks is right, of his own free will. But it's not his "job" to do anything. It's not Sonic's responsibility, he doesn't "have" to do any of the things he does. He only acts because he feels like doing it of his own free will to take action to do what's right.

That's why Sonic is not a "Hero". He doesn't see "being a hero" as his job or responsibility. That is not who he is. He is not a "guardian" like Knuckles or Blaze is.
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is this voice faggot actually arguing that archie wasn't ooc lmao
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>>550504627
He does it for both reasons. He personally believes it is good for people to free and happy and evil for people to deprived of that and be subjected to harm and suffering. He also enjoys helping people out and subduing thugs and bullies who hurt the defenseless and blameless
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Man, learning how to paint is going over my head. It's way different than drawing.
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>>550505513
>this extremely evil dictator who enslaves helpless animals and threatens to blow up the planet would NEVER use the wrong pronouns
What is the psychological reasoning behind this phenomenon?
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>>550505721
so is it true that white paint is made from cum and boob milk
art school stopped returning my emails
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>>550504556
>Sonic does have a perspective change in SA2
>Sonic has other characters to "hide" him in SA2
both of these are true but these are definitely not the same as proper character development. Sonic misjudging a situation and getting better perspective is a very common trope. Frontiers, Black Knight, Blade of Courage, Sa2. Tons of games do it. But the difference is that Sonic is simply learning cold facts in those situations. Sonic did not get alleviated from a flaw. He did not learn a life lesson. He did not improve in any way that the audience can actually relate to. He got better with a sword. He learned that someone out there has the same abilities as him.
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>>550504101
You did the meme
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>>550505853
No. Neither of those work well as paint.
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What if maria Robotnik sent a letter to her cousin saying "ur a little fat fuck loser I bet you cannot even take over the world and turn all the animals into robots when u grow up, FAGGOT LMAAOO"
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>>550505631
archiecucks are not to be reasoned with
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>>550505785
>my hecking wholesome chungus scrimblo bimblo would support my beliefs
it's that simple
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>>550504556
Are you really so fucking low IQ that you think people are arguing that Sonic didn't save the world? No. They're arguing that there's a difference between a character who saves the world and a character who's mission in life is to keep the peace. Goku is an obvious example.
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>>550506028
Amogus Sonic?
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>>550505853
No
White pigments like Titanium Dioxide, etc.
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>>550505893
Cope. Rouge canonically has feelings for Knuckles in the games.
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>>550505968
i dont believe you
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>>550501916
The point of Sonic being the "wind" is that he lives FREELY, doing whatever the heck he wants. Everything that he does out of complete selflessness IS HIS OWN CHOICE, BECAUSE HE -FELT LIKE IT-.

He's not driven by any stupid "responsibility", it' not his "job". He saves the world because he felt like doing it, of his own free will, on impulse. No responsibility needed to "motivate" him, he just -is-. Sonic doesn't see himself as a hero, because it is not his job to protect or save anyone. When he does, it's because he's a good person who does what he thinks is right in the heat of the moment, and that's led to saving the world countless times and being praised as a hero. But Sonic doesn't care what people think of him, he doesn't care how they see him. He just lives his life doing what he loves. That is what makes him free as the wind.
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>>550505785
it's called being mentally ill
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>>550505979
eggman was born after maria died, he's younger than 50.
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'na
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>>550504556
I had a whole thing written up but you are mixing up the moral position of "Hero" with the societal status of "hero". Sonic is a hero like when the guy who made yugioh jumped into the water to save someone who was drowning. Sonic is not a hero like a lifeguard who signed up to save people from drowning.
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>>550506156
You guys should settle down and stop being so aggressive.
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>>550506678
You guys should settle down with me
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Sonic is not a kid that needs to grow up. That's Tails.
Sonic is not a guardian who dedicates his whole life to protecting something. That's Knuckles.
Sonic is not a romantic bleeding heart who would commit to being in a relationship. That's Amy.

The key problem with ANYONE who dislikes Game Sonic, the "Wind", is specifically these three things. They want an amalgam of Tails, Knuckles and Amy. But an amalgam of Tails, Amy and Knuckles is not Sonic at all. That's Blaze, the Nega-Sonic. The polar opposite of Sonic.
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>>550506730
Anon will you fuck my asshole
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Busty tall sexy human woman jerking off Shadow aggressively and forcing him into his first orgasm all over her lap
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>Expecting a person who likes archienic to understand the wind
I am telling you right now that it is beyond his comprehension. It isn't a complicated subject but he is emotionally attached to bitchboy teen soap opera Sonic who has to learn life lessons and be argued with. The concept of a Sonic who isn't driven by strong morality will not enter his brain. Years of Archie have cooked it like an air fryer. Do not read the comics unless you are going into them with the express recognition that they're OOC. He grew up with this Sonic and will never be able to mentally separate the Sonic from SA2 from the Sonic in this picture.
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>>550506334
Yeah she sent it to a fetus
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>>550506695
Sonic's not gay
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>>550506828
sodomy is a sin
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>>550506486
That's best simple analogy
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>>550504591
>not made by Sonic Team
Well.... yeah
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>>550506620
It's been 20 years and I still don't understand why the fuck Mephiles ever needed Silver for his plot
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>>550506620
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"Windnic is just an excuse to avoid making Sonic a character"
Sonic was always windnic what the fuck am i hearing
is this what archie does to people? christ.
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>>550502552
Holy fuck this model + textures look 2008 at best
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>>550507096
being in this general at all is a sin. what's 1 more to the list ?
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Silver was always a mistake
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>>550507252
he just wanted to be around him
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In amerishit media Sonics heroism is treated like a job but in japanese media sonic just runs free, he destroys enemies who prevent him from running free, which makes people consider him a hero, but it's not his job nor does he feel morally obligated to be a hero
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>>550502552
I'd cum on his heart-shaped belly
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>>550507252
I think Mephiles just wanted to fuck with Silver for the shits and giggles
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>>550506864
trillions are saying this
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>>550507416
Small indie company please understand
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>>550506695
they fuck
>>550506965
i don't read archie but there is no fucking way ian has been pushing this redemption moralnic shit for so long LMAO. has he improved his writing at all for the past 20 years?
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>>550507252
>>550507495
>>550507536
So Shadow and Silver go back in time and Mephiles is born, copying Shadow's form. You are being filtered by the most basic paradox plotline
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Glad you're all realizing he's just a retard who doesn't play the games
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>>550507252
Mephiles needed to deceive, manipulate, and distract Silver so Mephiles would be able to carry out his evil plan unimpeded
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>>550507518
So you’re saying all Eggman needs to do to win is cause all the mayhem he wants ANYWHERE EXCEPT where the 3 ft blue rat is? Is he stupid?
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>>550506695
Sonic may be gay, but Silver isn't
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No wonder Shadow is so popular and is always treated as the second option right after Sonic. No wonder everyone overlooks Tails, Amy and Knuckles.

They see Sonic as Tails.
They see Sonic as Amy.
They see Sonic as Knuckles.

They see Shadow as Sonic.

They see Shadow & Sonic together as Sonic with an amalgam of Tails, Amy and Knuckles. Tails' youthful kid brother energy, Amy's passionate romantic heart, Knuckles' sense of duty and guardianship. They want Sonic to be that so badly, the only character they can genuinely Sonic being with is someone whose more like "Sonic" in their eyes.
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>>550507636
I just want to point out that Ian is mischaracterizing both Satam and game Sonic when he does this stuff. Satam Sonic wanted eggman TO DIE.
Not destroyed, not defeated, not "unalived", not "Gone" not "away" not to the shadowrealm D E A D
Proof: https://youtu.be/CeSgXNAhD9Y?si=wLeRj4PurFQSeNQ3&t=1236

It is out of character for the Sonic that Ian fucking grew up with to try and redeem Eggman.
Satam Sonic is more in-character than Archie, but less in-character than IDW.
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>>550507745
The blue rat runs everywhere so it's kinda hard to avoid him, especially when your goal is world domination which includes that rat. Not to mention Eggman has too big of an ego to not try to fuck with Sonic.
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>>550507724
wait but if Mephiles hadn't even confronted Silver in the first place and didn't send Silver to the past then he would've won because they needed all three hedgehogs to work together in the end
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>>550507745
No because Sonic finds Eggman fun, thrilling, and interesting, so Sonic would deliberately seek out the mayhem
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>>550507854
Silver being from the future would make him the gayest of all
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Windnic is gay for Tails. Westnic is gay for Shadow. Everything else is incorrect
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A remember that japanese Sonic fan who made that video about the western Sonic comics and said the best way to read Archie is to see it as its own separate thing because it's so drastically different from how the world is, and the different characters that appear in it, and how the characters act or else you'll go crazy. Lol.
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>>550507495
Ok that is the only explanation that makes sense, Mephiles wanted Silver's booty in his free time. He doesn't need him to time travel, he doesn't need him to kill Sonic, he has no use

>>550507649
But Silver is only there because Mephiles wanted him to be there, so if Mephiles desired, there'd only be Shadow there and he could have still copied that? Couldn't he just go back in time with Shadow without involving another Hedgehog and still copy it perfectly? He literally does something of the sort to show Shadow he will end up in Darkholme Dungeon held by some purple shit container

>>550507724
If Silver wasn't there, he wouldn't need to deceive anyone though? Silver in 06 can't time travel without Mephiles's help.
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Man. If only the Sonic franchise had a rambunctious hothead teenage boy character who with flaws and aspirations and the emotional complexity needed for romance. If only there were characters like this. Nope too bad we have to change Sonic.
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>>550508065
Finally someone who understands Sonic.
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>>550508002
read >>550507649

>>550508149
>if Mephiles desired, there'd only be Shadow there and he could have still copied that?
then Shadow would have taked care of Iblis. Mephiles would had to copy a worse form
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>Voicefaggot claims he played the games all his life
>Core poles of Sonic's character that every gamefag knows about are somehow news to him
>insists that Archie didn't deserve to get mangum vaulted
There's definitely lies here.
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>>550507706
Fucking blobian eyelids
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>>550507854
are you sure
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I don't believe in peace so I'm going to send these voice lines to Randomfox
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Sonic is a wandering traveler who does good deeds out of the kindness of his heart.
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I am tired of talking about the state of this franchise.

Yes, sonic is a cereal mascot, it's over.
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>>550508693
Are you fucking crazy
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>>550507296
>not playing in jp
you seem like a masochist
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>>550508667
kek and canon
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>>550508667
ooc
shadow would never fuck rouge because she isn't maria
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>>550507649
Mephiles would've been born regardless tho
all interacting with Silver did is give Shadow someone to go back and time with and seal him away, he actively made things harder on himself for no reason
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>>550508404
No, I mean the current day (aka future) Mephiles would just approach Shadow and time travel with him to have past Mephiles copy his form. In 06 Shadow had to flee from one Mephiles, two Mephileses is not possible for Shadow to beat, even if one must be weakened after scientists did their shit and he just copied Shadow. Mephiles also didn't even need to act like an ominous douchebag, feed him a plausible sob story and then he wouldn't even have to fight Shadow, and humanity would do his work for him.
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>>550508667
This is lore accurate for everyone involved. Based post.
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>>550508701
Sonic is Japanpilled.
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>>550508693
Do it
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>>550508787
Shadow knows Maria would have wanted him to be happy so he fucks Rouge on the daily.
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>>550508693
PLEASE DON'T DO THAT
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The fact that the voicefag has been spending most of his time seething trying to defend Archie's honor speaks volumes.
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Chadckles already won the Rougebowl
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Shadow knows Maria would love Sonic so he becomes Sonic's housewife (male)
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wait i thought voicefag just imitated characters' voices
he's like speaking his opinions in his normal voice?
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What went wrong?
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What if all the male characters were in a room together having power scaling discussions, and all the female characters were in a room together having shipping discussions?

What would it devolve into?

This only popped into my head because I just thought of Amy arguing with someone over Shadouge vs Knuxouge.
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>>550508897
If Mephiles could force people to travel back in time maybe, but he needs to channel his powers for a while to do it to Silver and Blaze. He would need to trick Shadow. Would Shadow fall for his tricks? Maybe but doing it to Silver is easier
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>>550509212
I always thought I liked Archie but I always hated Archienic anyways and now I'm starting to realize through him I never liked Archie at all. I just like the ideas around a lot of its characters.
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>>550498309
>>550498734
>>550499013
Shadouge is Canon bros
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>>550509415
This is 100% factually correct but SJSniggers will have 31 flavors of cope and seethe to throw back at it.
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>>550503104
You are wrong. This is no gotcha, the comic characterizations are typically bad, and perhaps Colors isn't THAT bad by comparison, but you're still wrong:
>What is actually wrong with the characterization in Colors
In English his relationship with Tails is the opposite of what it's supposed to be. This problem is not in the Japanese original, where the dialogue is actually the complete opposite

>the jokes aren't in the japanese version of the game
This is wrong. They are. Actually, the Japanese original has more jokes, and they're more elaborate as well, because there is at least one instance where a joke couldn't be translated, so the English version just extends and explains an earlier joke for several seconds. This is usually considered one of the worst jokes for that reason, but I actually liked it personally. I don't even think the jokes are that big of a deal, it's just a stylistic decision for this game, even if the English version mishandles them a bit
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No, no, what if Sonic & Amy were arguing about Knuxouge vs Shadouge?

Sonic strongly believes Knuckles and Rouge have a thing for each other but Amy is a "Team Dark are all best friends" kinda girl who ships Shadouge hard, and they're just going back and forth over this until Sonic starts wondering if Amy's just projecting her own thoughts on Shadow onto Rouge, and then it gets real crazy.
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samefagging general
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>>550498817
Team Dark were never friends dude Archie made that up
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>>550509716
Thanks, Doc.
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>>550499138
>>550501848

>Shadow wouldn't give a single fuck
>only to reveal they fucked so many times and broke up because Shadow was bored of her being his rebound girl

Not the flex you thought it was, knux getting sloppy seconds is beta cuck cringe.
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>>550509171
>>550509824
That wouldn't make Shadow happy. Shadow doesn't care about tits or sex. He only wants Maria. Don't project your own desire for sex onto him.
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>>550509716

>>550509813
you're welcome...
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>>550509226
>not a single canon source
>all SoA or thirdparty internslop
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>>550498521
>The sloppy seconds contest

>>550504101
>Outdated and non Canon profile
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I liked Scourge from Archie, but he needed to be WINDED for his character to reach its true potential.
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>>550508239
Nobody wants Silver (the skin). People might like Silver (the idea) but they will choose Sonic and Shadow for everything even if it means changing them into Silver (the idea)
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Doot
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>>550508814
Again today are falling for time paradox shenanigans. Mephiles needs to be born, so he has to follow the same choices his future self did to be born. It is how it works. If you actually want to point out inconsistencies then talk about how Silver magically goes back in time from the future when he already defeated Iblis
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I know Dark Brothers wasn't canon but doesn't the fact that Shade existed at all mean that Knuxouge didn't matter to Sega anymore?
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Fellow momthrowers pack your things. We're all going back to xitter.
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>>550501376
>>550501598
Tails will never score
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>>550509468
Rouge says Sonic would look good with Tails and Amy leaps at her

>>550509564
He doesn't need to channel, he can show Shadow what will happen to him in the future casually. It's possible it only took this long for Silver and Blaze because Mephiles couldn't appear "too" good at this without drawing suspicion. On subject of Shadow, even the truth with some details omitted like "I was created in a lab from parts of a god by evil scientists, look at their evil deeds in the past, help me bro" would work fine on Shadow who could relate, and if it doesn't Shadow can't do shit to him anyway, and Mephiles can always go back to before the meeting until he finds the right words to convince him, or he could just time travel to the Ark to kidnap him for a few minutes. Talk to Maria and she will convince Shadow to go and help Mephiles out by going back in time for a minute or two. He didn't need to involve Silver who can beat up Iblis temporarily, so he's a big deal.
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>>550510051
Well yeah they're Sonic and Shadow, you think Silver is going to take over the planet or something?
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>>550509468
>males
Ends in all of them trying to kill each other in a free for all, or perhaps organizing a tournament.
>females
Ends with Blaze revealing her true feelings about Sonic and fighting Amy, and then Sonaze vs Silvaze
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Damn this place got busy out of nowhere
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>Archie called it's universe the "Prime" universe aka the ORIGINAL universe of the multiverse that all others are based on.
>It's the least like Sonic out of all media. Basically the antithesis.
Now this was just respectful.
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>>550510129
>mean that Knuxouge didn't matter to Sega anymore?
Bingo. Except here's the thing: knuxouge never mattered to sega. Sa2 has more shipteasing between shadow and rouge than her and knuckles (she calls his shadow's rings more precious that jewels), and heroes continues this trend. Sonic X is where knuxouge actually came from, and it's what made people start shipping knuxouge hardcore in the first place. It is a glorified crackship that was built on a rotten foundation, which is why even kicking in the door will cause it to come crashing down.
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>>550509925
Shadow is a healthy, virile male. He has desires. Sorry. =(
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Anti-Tailsfags really do just think about small penises all day, don't they? That's pretty fucking weird bros.
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>>550498817
Look, I haven't been part of the people attacking you yet. That said, Shadow ISN'T FRIENDS WITH TEAM DARK. IT WAS NEVER A THING. Ian's garbage decisions for Shadow in IDW were never necessary and Ian himself said no mandates FORCED him to write Shadow like he did. Americans failing to understand the character is not Sega's fault.
If you try and imply Sega's own vision for Shadow is wrong, the vision they have had for over 20 years, I will become a vocal part of your haterbase.
Sonic is shonen and a Japanese franchise. Archie is gone.
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Here's the real question.

All the male characters in a room having shipping discussions, and all female characters in a room having power scaling discussions.

How does THAT go?
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>>550510351
they're perfect...
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>>550510050
Here's wind Scourge
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>>550510427
Amy will gladly beat Blazes ass and hand Silver to a random woman to leave Blaze shipless.
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>>550510351
>Sonic and Knuckles have more shipteasing than Knuckles and Rouge
I think we all know what ship sega really cares about
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What if Silver was evil?
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>>550510516
>healthy
He is mentally ill, that affects someone's desires. He also has oneitis, if the girl isn't Maria she can fuck off.
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>>550506156
Nope, not anymore
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>>550510709
Then he would be like Mephiles and seen as a good character
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>>550510493
It's the "Prime" universe of Western Sonic. Predates AoStH and SatAM and was the last surviving vestige of the old canon.
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>>550510540
Ian wrote shadow poorly because he's a knucklesfag, who are all eternally btfo by CHADow
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>>550510642
>>550510050
Scourge if Sonic Team
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>>550510709
We wouldn't have seen him since he likes his future
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>>550509171
>"Maria... this is what you wanted right?"
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>>550510721
No hes not, hes full of focus and resolve.
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but maybe...
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>>550508565
>>550509927
>>550510565
All Sonic gay ships are good...except Soneggg, but that faggot
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>>550510834
>Sonic 26 (06 remake) is released
>Mephiles becomes a good guy by the end
>Silver is the true big bad
That'd rock actually
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I think Shadouge just doesn't work because Shadow isn't touchy feely and doesn't care about any of this stuff
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>shadougebros post game screenshots
>knuxougefaggots post everything but official content
This is the most onesided shipwar in history. knuxougesisters???
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>>550510565
Knuckles will always protect him
https://youtu.be/4WF_NrwK8rE?t=2645
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>>550510351
Cutest Faggots!
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>>550510841
Isn't it less that it predates those two and more that it took inspiration from their production? AoStH and SatAM were technically concepted first. Archie was just released first, I think.
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I don't like to talk about my headcanons because I don't want to be called cringe
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>>550511117
Cute N Canon!
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>>550511110
Shadougeniggers posted nothing but rouge making vague compliments while shadow ignores her. meanwhile knuxouge has confirmed mutual friendship and feelings. Knuxouge is the most popular rouge ship
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>>550511117
with no hesitation...
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I think Sonadow works because Sonic and Shadow are gay in the very same way and neither one knows that the other one's gay until they try
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>>550511206
You're cringe for being afraid of being called cringe
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>>550510721
The mentally ill aren't sexually inept, femanon.
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The Classic canon is split into two branches: East and West. Sega of Japan in the East with its manga. Sega of America in the West with its "localization" clusterfuck. It wasn't until the Modern era that we got the "Modern canon" that unified the two branches by discarding most of the localization.
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>>550511349
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>>550511206
it cant be that bad
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>>550511441
The west branch is fake bullshit
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>>550511206
I don't talk about my OCs, headcanon or ideas because this fanbase and franchise doesn't deserve expressions and ideas. I don't want Sonic fans to have fun. I want them to be so depressed that they start killing themselves.
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>>550511068
>Shadow isn't touchy feely
Yeah he is, he's fucking constantly crying.
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>>550511318
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>>550511476
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>Archie fag speaks
>Just blasts how much he doesn't know anything about Sonic
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>>550511292
This is the most bad faith thing I have ever read. All you guys do is make bad faith arguments and lie. Knuckles and rouge do not have confirmed feelings for one another, where do you people even get this from? And even with the most platonic interpretation of how rouge and shadow interact, it's clear there's something else going on there.
>Knuxouge is the most popular rouge ship
Holy delusional
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Hmmm. Today I will piss off the Sonamyfag.
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>>550511292
I thought they were supposed to be a tsundere ship?
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Shadougefags spent the last year acting like deranged psychos and now they want to be taken seriously. You're basically the Kuta of Shadow.
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>>550511623
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>>550511486
>>550511318
>>550511623
I don't like Knuckles' voice. Thinking about learning japanese so I can enjoy Sonukles
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>>550511837
This but Shadriafags
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>>550511657
Check the polls rerard
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>>550511837
shadariafags are significantly more unhinged. Sonamyfags also spam gore
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>>550511645
>sonic on the left
>sonic team on the right
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Who is the Ragna and Rachel of Sonic?
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>>550512070
>check the polls that I botted!
Everyone saw anon
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>>550512070
>Scooby-Doo doesn't recognize bots
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>>550512404
Ragna is evil (so good) Zavok because voice actor and red, Rachel is Eggman, Terumi (good) is Sonic
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>>550512668
>Terumi is Sonic
I was going to say no, but honestly you're closer to the truth than I want you to be.
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Gonna smoke a bunch of weed and jerk off to underage cream porn, this place sucks shit like usual
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Shadow has essentially replaced and refined Knuckles while Silver takes whatever is left of that as well as Tails' spot. There's no point to having Knuckles or Tails in a story beyond legacy
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Since when have Shadria fans ever done anything bad?
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>>550513127
they didn't marry me
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>>550513031
Change Cream to Tails and I'm doing the exact same thing.
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>>550501310
This is your brain on Archie crap
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>>550511951
I'm not a big fan of their current voices either...
>Thinking about learning japanese so I can enjoy Sonukles
I wish they did drama CDs...
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>>550513951
Kill this useless, stupid fucking character already.
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>>550512853
Yeah, but it's bullshit. Mephiles is Terumi, he has 3 exactly forms - blue tinted Shadow (Hazama), crystal Mephiles (Terumi), and after he does his scheme he gets access to his previously denied form, Solaris (Susan). Both have the same sort of motivation which is "I was presumably an ok guy fucked over and tormented in the past so I want to destroy everything", both do pointless shit just to cause harm, the plans of both are overcomplicated and make no real sense, and both get erased. Ragna would probably be Sonic, and Jin Shadow? Rachel has no fitting equivalent for Sonic though
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>>550509606
>>550510037
>Shadouge is Canon bros
Shadow doesn't love rouge.
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>>550509226
Indeed. Everything is canon.
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Surge loves 'Nic
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>>550514147
Ragna - Sonic (obviously because he's the MC)
Working off of that we can say:
Jin - Shadow
Hakumen - Future Shadow
Noel - Blaze
Makoto - Amy
Terumi - Mephiles
Relius - Eggman
Kokonoe - Tails
Bang - Knuckles
Izanami - The End
Hibiki - Espio

Kind of blanking on any other parallels and that's after stretching a few of them a bit.
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>>550515057
Developmentfags ruin everything
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>>550515125
>NOOOO characters should be stuck in a loophole just like me!
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>>550512070
when you post knuxouge facts, the shadouge schizo will always cope
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They're going to get rid of Kit and have Tails fix Surge into being a redeemed hero. This will lead to Sonic getting a bit jealous that Tails is hanging around Surge a lot and when Surge notices she starts trying to get closer to foxboy because she wants to spite Sonic.
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>>550514681
I genuinely believe Sega is going to move forward with Shadow and Rouge in the next installment. I think that's why they keep shooting down IDW whenever they try to, they want to be the ones that establish it.
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>>550515346
and then she cheats on tails with sonic
and then she cheats on sonic with an evil sonic from another universe that is now green for some weird reason
and then they end in space jail
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>>550511657
> Knuckles and rouge do not have confirmed feelings for one another, where do you people even get this from? And even with the most platonic interpretation of how rouge and shadow interact, it's clear there's something else going on there.
Clear to your headcanon maybe.
>>550515381
It'll never happen.
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>>550515346
Is there a more cucked character in this franchise than Kit? Even his own character designer doesn't like him.
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>>550501310
The Bleach comparison is sound. Even if Bleach is an adaptation and Archie is an AU, the fallout is identical. Bleach's anime ran without supervision from the creator, perpetuated a non canon pairing for years until it was forced to stop and now there is a permanent side of the fandom that feels robbed of a good story and then the other side of canon purists who believe that this is what they deserve for going off script. Bleach shipping wars are even more violent than Sonic shipping wars.
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>>550515668
actually, the character that wins the trophy of most cucked sonic character is Expedition 33
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>>550501673
Shadouge is for the high class people of the world
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Adaptations should always be in character
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>>550512070
Sega > Fanpolls
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>>550516212
Shadouge is delusion and pretending it's any more canon than other ships when Shadow hasn't offered anything to it.
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>Sally is a Hebrew baby girl name meaning “princess”
huh
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Shadow will forever be more popular than Knuckles so Rouge will be Shadows side girl from now on
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>>550515073
if Eggman is Relius then Sage as Carl, Metal as Ada works, but honestly Kokonoe is far more like Sage because they're assholes that are mostly forced to work for good (a bit like Eggman, but more like Sage) for their own devices, then you make Tager Metal and you can mark Konoe/Nine as magic Eggman. Silver could be Naoto because he fills Sonic's role in the future/alternate universe.
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>>550516719
>Princess Princess
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>>550515346
>green arms
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Shadow and Rouge aren't even friends
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>>550516586
>Tdlr

cope
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They love each other
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how big is rouge's penis?
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>>550516989
Nah theyre buds
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Surails
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>>550516865
it actually gives me a fun little idea for my project, I only checked because I thought Sally was one of those nicknames that just got shifted into be standard names
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MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Wouldn't it be unfortunate if Sega decided that Surge represents "Adventure" or "Challenge" in some way?
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>>550517390
why would they do that and what would that even mean?
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>>550517306
being a standard*
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>>550517456
That would mean Sonic loves her because he loves adventure.
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>>550517258
God you people are pathetic. Sonic and Tails are autistic asexual cartoon characters which makes shipping then with girls weird
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>>550517012
>tdlr
You've misspelled this twice this thread, and how is a single sentence too long, your mind is feeble
>Rouge cucking herself again while Shadow's on screen
So this is "Shadouge"...
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>>550510551
> Sonic starts teasing Knuckles about Rouge, Shadow shows some level of disconfort, Knuckles absolutely mad

> Amy comes out as a topic, Sonic get's nervous as hell and denies all of it, Tails is supportive of Amy, Knuckles doesn't sees it, just friends nothing else, Shadow interjects says Sonic should be nicer to her, Sonic tries to shove Amy towards Shadow that has none of it

> Blaze comes out as a topic, Silver tries to pretent he feels nothing, Sonic is slightly curious about how close they are, Sonic says she is a good friend, Tails let's out that she is actually very very close friend, Sonic gets teased to hell and back, Sonic mad.

This is my fanfic.
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>>550517563
sonic only loves chili dogs
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>>550517816
But what if her true last name is Chilidogs?
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>>550517963
holy gaia...
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>>550517634
Sure, sure. But Surge is an aggressive rapist in this scenario so it doesn't matter how asexual her target is.
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>>550517965
The sky isn't actually blue
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>>550518145
Based and true.
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>>550517816
Chili the Dog
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If Sonic's last name is "the Hedgehog", could him marrying a non-hedgehog legally transfer his last name to them? Would Tails stop being Miles Prower and become Miles the Hedgehog? Would Cream become Cream the Hedgehog?
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the fuck is wrong with you posting this tumblr randomfox bs all the time
get a life
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>>550518504
>Cream the Hedgehog
Shadow would takes Creams ladt name because he's progressive like that.
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>>550516760
Sage works as a Carl fairly well and ADA could be Metal.
I feel like Tager would be closer to Big, if Big was operated and worked on by Tails and stuck with him, since Tager in general just tries to stay out of the way of shit unless Kokonoe orders him to get involved.

I agree though, Kokopuffs isn't a 1-for-1 match with Tails. She'd be more like a combination of Nine's (Sonic Prime) selfishness and ruthlessness and Tails' desire for a better and more free world, for himself.

The closest thing I could think of for Nine (Blazblue) would be an evil Blaze.
>Silver could be Naoto because he fills Sonic's role.
Didn't even think of that but that works.

Mai would just be femsonic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN5M2Op_0C0
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>>550518556
I'm not surprised, the amount of parasocial psychosis in these threads is insane.
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>>550518556
It's literally him, posting it on here.
I'm 99% sure he's also that Anti-archieschizo who spams in /v/ and on here. They type exactly the same.
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>>550517012
>"I happen to remember yours being there too."
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>>550518739
>Kiddo
OOC. He should have just punched her in the face for being annoying.
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Looks like it's baking time. Don't mind if I do!
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>>550519743
Sonknux...
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>>550519460
Fuck off. He just happens to know what he's talking about with Sonic
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>>550519460
Also he's the one spamming about how he isn't wrong about everything
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>>550519659
I like how no one has mentioned that Rouge is apparently so bad at keeping her jewelry that a random kid suffering from mental psychosis was able to steal one of her most prized possessions directly from her apartment/house.

The longer I think about these plotlines from IDW, the less sense they fucking make. It's like Evan literally forgets what characters she's writing halfway through the issue.
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>>550519921
Go on. Say what he's wrong about. I dare you.
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>>550519891
>He just happens to know what he's talking about with Sonic.
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>>550520220
>>550520220
>>550520220
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>>550519921
People who actually play Sonic games agree with him
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>>550518832
You're right, by making it roughly 66% Nine 34% Tails Kokonoe fits perfectly. Good solution to free up Relius, because otherwise Eggman is a 100% perfect fit for Kokonoe, he even worked with almost all the villains Ragna/Sonic faced just like Kokonoe, and he also was fooled by Mephiles just like Kokonoe was by Terumis. Tails and Eggman do have to work together from time to time, just like Kokonoe works with Relius semi-frequently despite knowing what he is like, but then it's not like she's much if at all better than him. In fact from what I remember of Relius's end goal was admirable, but then the writing kept pivoting and I am not sure if he really wanted to make a real, nicer world micromanaged by his wife
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>>550520096
>>550520267
Hi randomautist
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>>550492117
I completely forgot I meant to do this. The moment has sort of passed, I guess, but I'm already in too deep with this. These are various avatars I created in Forces not later than 2020 or 2019.
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