Disgusting Fat Pig Edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Silent Thief Milana and Silent Mage Flut - Until 12/31>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Millennial Lord Adam - Until 12/31Everlasting Katana Hunter, Shiou - Until 12/23>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:[Free Gems] 200 gem code in webstore - YJseQZA8dJ[New Abyss] Deepsnow Hinterlands[Festival Feast: Mission Pass] - Until 12/24FREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week on their official web currency store: store.wizardry.infoANOTHER FREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week on their new official web currency store: webstore.wizardry.info/product>Fanguides:https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>General Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz>Tavern/Camp choices:https://rentry.org/2gngvv2n>Friend Code:https://rentry.org/SavoryRisk>I.V checker and Other Stat Calculators:https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/Previous thread: >>550311705
Pulgritte was right, commoners are lower than cattles
>mission failed, elf girl is dead, witch has escaped>Admiral Agave: "ahahah lmao that was funny, here's your gold, masketta"what a guy
>>550445556Yeah the go fetch me some kids for epstein island gave it away. Atleast it's starting to look like we can actually fix pulgritte
>>550445393And she is lower than the commoners, devoid of practical knowledge, gluttonous and prideful, suitable only for correction. I picture yeka her great ancestor, truly the pinnacle of womanhood, in my mind as I mating press her. Perhaps she may yet be useful in bearing an hier worthy of continuing the lineage without shame.
new player here, I just finished first run of the second abyss. Should I bother with bondmate farming for the first or second abyss?
>>550446229t.Serpens
>>550446341mel, mudd, and jack are all I've farmed up all the way
>>550446341It's extremely tedious for miniscule stat gain. I'm at end game and never touched it.
>reach floor 6>cat isn't in the guild anymorenyo....
>>550446341do it if it's convenientwouldn't go out of my way for it
>>550446687The trap ones are pretty significant
>>550446341Bondmates are something you use to cope when you're out of actual content to do. There are a bunch of ways to strengthen your characters at your point in the game.>Leveling up>Getting new gear>Substat autism>Discipline/inherits>Relic Brews (get them passively)>Getting new lanterns for Well of the MindDon't stop your progress just to do some shitty sidequests 11 times for some stats.
>>550446341Get bondmates for your thief and don't bother with others unless you have nothing else to do.
550 atk thief vs bounty scorpion, hunting arrow bow>HA2 - 953>thunderstrike - 1235>no ailment - 608>bleeding - 734>poison - 785>poison, bleed - 941>poison, bleed, stun - 1110>evasion down - 583>crit poison - miss, 777>crit poison, bleed, spellbind - 1161>crit poison, bleed, spellbind, confusion - 1319
>update
>>550448507fixing the earth den bug hopefully
This new weapon enchantment thing is a waste of money isn't it
>still 60>near the end of the mines>no Yuzu>haven't even looked at new junkI'm gonna beat the game.
>>550449092did you do any sidequests or request yet2 of them was insanely hard so I just progressed in the abyss since it was more manageable
>>550449542No, I learned that was a bad idea on the first floor of Abyss 1
How's the new abyss bros? Haven't played since the anni
Not sure if they fixed the snowstorm not applying bug after the game crashes - I crashed, restarted and then tried the wolf>8 wolves immediately >Entire party frozen on the 2nd roundGreat stuff, really looking forward to this
>>550449092Me too, I'm gonna try to reach the GWO at least today. Probably will have my ass whooped.
>>550449092how did you beat the wolf at 60
>>550446341I usually farmed them when also farming adventurer bondsmates or leveling reserves
>>550449780That fight was clearly designed around having Erwin
>>550450035I mostly abused Knight's Defense (and Nourishings to keep it going) and Makaltu with some Defending depending on my Freeze/Shatter status and just wailed on it while my high Mag Yek cleared out the pups (god Yek is still so good in this Abyss), it started doing some big AE blizzard thing that looked scary but I'm not sure what it did, and it died afterwards
I am still at Big Foot that kick my ass. Its very painful(to my pride).
>>550450760How did Yek deal with the dozen uber dogs that get summoned near the end that require 3 AOE hits to ko?
mfw checking request at guild>one request requires you to fight bigfoot again>another request requires you to fight wolf yet againjohn drecom what the fuck aaaah.
Pigritte my beloved.
>>550451375why are you such a loser?
>>550451409Don't give it attention.
>>550451139just keep trying, a lot of it is RNG. bring 2 characters with priest spells and take it slow, don't get overrun by his friends. madi is the best spell for that fight.
>>550451409are you a bot?
>https://xcancel.com/Wizardry_Daphne/status/2001202070620397661Ver. 1.21.1 has been released.Please check the in-game announcement for details.▼Update Contents◆Fixed Bugs- The game may freeze during battles with certain enemies in the Earth Demon Cave.- In "Heavy Snow Zone Isberg," if you task kill a battle in a blizzard immediately after the start of the battle, the blizzard will disappear upon returning.- Depending on the device, some scenarios may freeze while playing the "Recover Rare Ore" quest.- In "Heavy Snow Zone Isberg," the enemy turn order image may be displayed incorrectly during the Great Monster battle under certain conditions.- In the Ancient Mausoleum, the "Summon Corpse" option may not appear when operating the "Altar of Morgus, God of Death."- If you come into contact with a certain enemy during auto-movement, the scenario may continue playing after the battle ends, while still in auto-movement.- The achievement "Gather Around the Priest" was achieved under incorrect conditions.* Earned rewards and achievements will be collected at a later date. We apologize for any inconvenience.Other minor bugs have been fixed.The boss skips were patched?
I spent way too long in that closed area where you're supposed to use your right hand on the tree. I'm retarded.
>>550451241Was that what the blizzard effect was for? Idk there was a lot of dogs at one point but they just nibbled at my KD'd frontline so I didn't pay much attention besides near the end when the blizzard spooked me and I went all out nuking along with Alice Mahalito
>>550451794I think his strong dogs are summoned by "linked howling". You'll know when he summons 6 dogs at once, followed by another pack filling the whole 3rd row.He has 2 blizzard moves.One deals no damage and instantly freezes every character and enemy on the field.The other instantly shatters and kills all your frozen characters.He can use the two moves back-to-back.
>>550452056>The other instantly shatters and kills all your frozen charactersUhhh I probably got lucky then, I think I was a nuthair from him living, going again and my imminent death
>>550452329One more question, did you cheat or do the fight legitimately?
>>550452056Fuck so this is what happened to me. I think the fight was going well and then he one-shot my entire party. I legitimately don't know how you're supposed to avoid that since frozen can't be cured. Do I just grind while walking the hammers? But even then it takes about 2 turns before I get frozen again. Legit the guy feels like a stat check. I might try defense opening spam next time but there's legit no way to deal with he insta kill even when spamming fire every turn.
The girl didn't deserve to die. She's just a kid, kid are stupid and they don't understand the gravity of their actions.
>>550452614Fuuuuuuuck is this fixed already?
>>550452751I think the new class is going to have a skill that either cures freeze for a row or raises the party's temperature. Then some of the wolf's gimmicks become more tolerable.
>>550452614I mean, I was Frozen and Shattering a lot, that's the only fight where I had to actually pay attention to the mechanic and learn it, Yeti had low HP. I had to Defend sometimes when I knew there were too many pups and they'd Shatter me even with KD up but I ended up doing 4k+ to Big Woof from the Openings so hey w/e
cheating gwos btfo
>>550452845It says right there gwo
I beat the yeti at level 60 without cheating though i had godess earrings on all my front row, he didnt seem to.l use his breath much compared to when i didnt wear so i wonder if the ai knows how vulnerable you are.
Where can I quickly fight some creeping coins?
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Galbadus job change tomorrowhttps://xcancel.com/Wizardry_Daphne/status/2001217014413844726Ranger for Christmas Day I guess.
>>550453587They're not going to give him fighter are they
>>550453650Fighter is a little better with the new skills but I would prefer samurai.Beastfolk don't get magic classes and thief would be pants-on-head retarded.
>>550453650ninja
>>550453529A2
>>550453650Tall mage. He is a big guy.
Anyone find a new Adventurer Bone chest yet? They aren't stiffing us until a Catacombs-equivalent area again, are they?
Sneak attack vs frozen enemy. This was a surety hit. Non-surety non-frozen sneak attack was 888.Freeze definitely applies a damage reduction and not an increase to stats.
>>550453587>Ranger for Christmas Day I guess.Well that's lame. I guess I can hope that one of the two Rangers will be a Big Titty Dark Elf. A true Christmas miracle.
>>550451139wtf where did you get a picture of my cat gwo
>>550454620not your cat
Wicatdry...
>>550453869What floor?
>>550456140i've seen them on the first 3 floors as well as both floors of the ship. they probably appear on any.
>>550450035Malefic wind is quite good in that fight, people are sleeping on it but it hits as hard as La-spells while saving you a turn you'd have wasted clearing an enemy buff
Has anyone been able to test the critical poison thief skill? Does critical poison actually do decent damage to enemies?
>>550456945Think some anon tested it last thread and the answer is no.
>>550456945iirc that other anon testing it said it was doing ~55 per tick
>>550453529Bronze grade exam has 3 or 4 in the back row of some encounters. Worse comes to worse the boss fight has 1 (one) creeping coin and a couple entities for the Christmas bone pass if you still need them.
Do I need to beat abyss 3 to do the copper exam
>>550453587How good is galbadus in a4?
I don't understand the logic behind weak player poisons, I'm already giving up on 1k+ damage, at least make it worthwhile.
>>550457896It's too easy to just spam def and just wait for the monster to bleed out.
>>550457896there is no logic, its probably jank coded to scale off monsters not doing 1000s of damage to you so when you do it to them they do the same damage ticks as they do to you
>>550457896They never make damage over time good on the player sideThere’s often too many ways to cheese out defensive strats and you can’t milk whales as hard
AIEEEEEEEE LULU NYOOOOOOOOOO
Actually it's quite difficult to name RPG, especially JRPG that have strong DOT build. I can think of MAYBE Darkest Dungeon.
How do I stop the wolf from doing his 0HKO on my whole party? What happens is he freezes himself and then one shots everyone, so I don't have the chance to unfreeze him with a spell.
Man A4 got some big lore drops, Drecom is cooking
>>550457896It's a golden rule in JRPG that DoT(From the players) will never be super good or super useful anon. Why? Ask the nips they started that shit.
>>550458241giwtwm
>>550451747These niggaz are so lazy. They ofc can fix the fucking crashes on mobile and pc. They just waited for the new abyss to not do the work twice, probably because of spaghetti code. Fucking gooks, man
Mister Bonepicker please spawn I need sleep
>>550458361Do card builders like slay the spire count as RPGs?They tend to have pretty strong DOT builds.
OK seriously, fuck this. Rinne is at 122 trap detect and she STILL fails to spot every other chest trap. Every abyss the same bullshit.
>>550460771which floors?
>>5504608686
>>550447398Whoa that's quite huge Over 2x damage with 4 ailments
>>550462217Yeah but... it's still about as strong as a single wild strike...
>>550451375Me off screen watching her with a smile on my face
>>550447398>thunderstrike?
>>550459685Etrian Odyssey is an exception, though it's generally more of an AoE clear option rather than something that will do much to bosses
>>550462582I very vaguely remember it years ago but I remember using poison to help get past the scylla boss in EO2U
>>550462294Thieves aren't for damage They're gold pickers and chest openers
>>550462754Well why don't you go and CHEST OPEN that scorpioness then
>>550462582The necromancer poison bomb neg diffs like 60% of the bosses.
>>550462690Probably Dark Hunter Force Break which inflicts a pretty strong poison, but also completely binds the enemyIn the newer games you also have the mechanic that it's easier to inflict status on enemies that already have a status and bosses usually don't have that much poison resistance so it's a good one to start with
I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES I HATE THE MINES
HOW DO I BEAT THE WOLF
>>550463234Dwarves, kill this man.
Stop pretending like this is the first time.
>>550464652He chunky
>>550464804Did you also take church road in previous Abyss!
>>550463926You wait until people find a new bug to cancel the blizzard or grind levels for the new skills and keep attempting until it works
>>550465098Church first time every time.
>>550465528Ok but did you set the last one to church before doing this one?
>>550465576I'm pretty sure it's a bug or intended Same thing happened to all paths last abyss side quest
Silver equipment barely feels like an upgrade compared to ebonsteel, it's like 20 more attack...
>>550462342Olive's legendary skill
HOW THE FUCK DO I STOP THE WOLF FROM DOING GLACIAL STORM ONE SHOTTING MY NIGGAS HE'S ALWAYS UNFROZEN BUT HE GETS FROZEN AND THEN INSTANTLY ONE SHOTS EVERYONE WTF IS THIS DESIGN
That dead end with 3 walls to reverse, which ones are poison traps?
>>550466502No man you don't get itIt's not HIM who has to be unfrozen, it's youBut you can't prevent itSo hope he doesn't do itHope this helps
snowberries
>>550462342Wind skill from Gerard
uhh racist much??
How do WHALES feel about the new skills completely invalidating their WHALED lv7 heavy attack and FPS?
>WHALED lv7 heavy attackThat's not a whale skill since you get it from a regular adventurer
>>550466620HOW THE FUCK DO I PLAY AROUND A MECHANIC THAT I CAN'T INTERACT WITH I CAN'T BE FUCKING UNFROZEN ON A WHIM I'VE DIED 6 TIMES ALREADY ALL ON A SINGLE TURN ONE-SHOTThis is legit the worst boss in the game. Unbelievable bs.
Mages' new Invisibility spell is quite useful.
>>550467259Uhm, just get lucky? Like, with the doll? GOD, why can't you people just stop being so greedy? I bet you haven't bought a great value 99 dorra package in ages.
>>550467106Nah lv7 is definitely still whale territory. Nobody's pulled 37 gandolfos as F2P
Did they just recently add a Dwarf with a passive skill for trap find to the gacha pool?
Is this how you get a wife irl?
>>550467394The problem is also that my entire frozen party simply can never hit him, so I'm stuck when he summons ten billion wolves trying to either tank (unsuccessfully even with Knight's Defense) or deal 500 damage a hit in his frozen state where he can one-shot my entire team. I legit don't know how this fight is supposed to work. Mages don't have the damage to hurt him and the linked wolves ate 4 Lazelos and still kept going so killing them is out of the question.
what's the password?
>>550467774It's your credit card number.
>>550467696The Admiral has a way with his words
>have to fight fishmen again in the true endfiggers
Almost finished up A3 the correct way, do it again with Church route?To do that, is this all I have to do: Wheel accept quest, Wheel to last floor, do the quests and kill gwo?
>>550447398Given how much enemies have this annoying tendency to resist status ailments, this doesn't really do much. Thief really needs higher crit dmg multiplier instead of these weird gimmicks.
>>550468651Up to youTry to clear the first 2 of Abyss 4 first If you can stand the enemies you could farm for some new weapons
I like this skill.
>on a preemptive strike Abenis goes before the blizzard takes effectH-HAYAI
>>550447398This is completely worthless.
Abenis is my mvp so far. I have her Flash at level 3 so every combat she instantly kills a wolf on turn 0
>>550470078Its not so bad.Thief can stack 3 by themselves. Poison, Crit Poison, Bleed.
>>550470357You wasted three turns of setting up (assuming it doesn't miss) just to deal enough damage to match that of a fighter in one turn.
My MVPs in order are:Yuzu-Livana-Shiou-Lana-AliceStruggling with some bosses but it's the price that has to be paid for a full SOVL party
We really need a way to organize the spell/skill list. I keep skipping Dalto because I keep misreading it as Dilto.
>>550470549Those skills were going to be used anyway. Unlike hide to activate sneak attack.
I hate coordinated howl. In what way is that considered balanced?
>>550470838You either cast sleep or you aoe them with mages gwo
>>550470838The abyss isn't BALANCED, gwo. It's hell out there.
>>550470576>full party of legendaries>soul?
>>550470706Just use mirage strike, you are using debnya? right?
>>550452614Why couldn't they have waited until I cheesed the wolf?
YOOO I GOT ONEGWOS I FINALLY GOT ONE
>>550471227I see
>>550470838Kantios is literally 3 MP
>>550453954No one else is getting tall mage or black rod lol
god i wish i got a black rod
I finally met the white hair girl on the 5th floor near the fountain. How much longer until I reach the harken? Because I sure as hell don't want to do this shit all over again if I mess up.
>>550471851haha
>>550471851good luck gwo, the fountain is there for a reason.
>>550471851
>>550471851Route 6? You're backtracking all the way to the stairs to pick some berries.Route 5? You're at the end of the floor.
>>550471895>>550471982Just tell me, do I need to save it for the wolf boss? Or is that after the 5th floor harken?
>>550472061Wolf boss is immediate after the fountain.
>>550472061Your ass will be thoroughly violated via berry picking so you will probably use it for that. I'd suggest do berries, use the fountain as needed, go back to town fully geared up for wolf rape and come back
>>550472113>>550472224What I wouldn't give for a map of the place. Actually, is it randomized like Guarda?
I use bondmates as my personal ghost harem so I'm only bonded with hot women
>>550472224SON OF A BITCH. WHY DOES PICKING BERRIES TRIGGER A BATTLE?
>>550472303I'm pretty sure every Abyss is assembled semi-randomly out of premade blocks every time you start a new route or wheel back far enough.
>ambushedheh
>>550472424Shouldn't be a berry stealing whore then masketta, now enjoy goblin dicks
>>550472650It wouldn't be so bad if the game isn't crashing every time it happens. I can still fight when I log in afterward but it's just annoying.
Fuck, what happens past this screen at the end and the credits start rolling? Took focus from the game to check the screenshot and the game crashed and sent me to accept death and the wheel. Did I miss anything?At least I found the right point to wheel to, rockhome.
Is it better to hook out and go look for berries from the previous floor or just continue as needed from the 5th floor fountain? Just how many do I need?
>>550473376There's 3 near the fountain and the rest is easier to reach from the entrance
>>550473376If you had already cleared out most of the enemies on the floor before reaching the fountain, it's far easier to backtrack than to start the entire 5th floor again.
>>550473376>>550473697>>550472303This map layout matches mine. Berry locations may be randomized because this one doesn't have 2 bad berries and one good berry marked.
>>550474053Berry berry good map, thank you.
TOTAL YETI DEATH
>>550474245Thanks. I stole it from the last thread. This one is my map.
Reminder that there are more berries on the map than you need to gather so no need to go after all of them
>>550474614I assume the half-eaten berries don't count and you need to get all 4 of the good berries.
>>550474614The kid hired me to get some berries and by GOD she's going to get some berries
WHERE IS THE RANGER! SHE IS GOING TO MISS THE XP RATE UP !
>>550474859
Rinne is not having a good time in A4
>>550474859Here's your ranger, he's dead.
>>550475138Neither is Yuzu with all the hands on her tail.
true end gwo
>>550475138I don't know my Thief Rinne is doing a good job with her row skill and a bow
>>550475776Yeah but mine is in the front row like a ninger and she keeps getting stabbed in the coccyx
>When the leader is frozen AND there are 6 or more wolves on the field, he can cast glacial storm which is a full team AOE that does a lot of damage. It's recommended to break his frozen state ASAP.I haven't fought it yet but how many snow wolves does it summon if the skill has a requirement of 6+ wolves?
>see spoilered image >click on it to see what it is >get spoiled Why am I like this?
>>550475964Kek I did the same thing...
>>550475881He can summon 4 in one howl and the wolves can also summon other wolves.
>>550475776I haven't tested, does Rinne's magic damage bypass the freeze damage reduction like other magic?>>550475881Near the end he summons 6 at a time and they have double the hp of the previous wolves. He can still use Glacial storm after you shatter him.
Can't you burn the fuck out of the wolves with lahalitos?
>>550476194>Mage-only spellI am sad.
>>550475964Without context I'm gonna forget about it in a couple of days
>>550476319uuuuUUUUUUU spirits, FAAr and WIIIDeee
>>550476319your berkanon?
>>550476319Your Berka?She even got a new bonk skill.
Im on turn 3 of the new dailies and I've already been 1 shot 3 times and not a single hit has landed?!?!?
>>550476321That's not true, I haven't forgot the text spoilers I scrolled over so farThe GWO is a priestThe rocks are kidsYou get a literal fish bondmateBut they probably don't matter without context>>550476426>>550476442I started in June.
>>550476552fort doesn't get reset btw yuzu is down to 60
>>550476552Many of the new enemies (birds, wolves) are super squishy but have ridiculous evasionSo, mages or hammers.
Only 10 weeks of logins if you want to upgrade a single silver weapon. Not too bad.
>>550476764wdym? the yellow ore?
>>550476583>see spoilerAyyyyyyyy I did it again!
I don't really know what to do, I'm going to need 1 more for the frontline and it's either my 80 fort Berk or Masketto, and I don't like either idea.Do you guys have your memento cors in the front row?
Iris regains her sight thanks to you
>>550476764Didn't notice that it's 4 red books. You can get an advanced class to lvl 70 every 50 weeks (if you redeem during a blessing)>>550476904I put mine in the front row, he rarely gets ohko'd through 3 layers of mitigation.
>>550476095>>550476121Yeah... Unless it's a glass cannon (how much hp does it have), I am so not ready for it. I'll hook out when I'm done picking berries and bringing all the scrolls when I come back.
>>550475964>>550476875Because people use them far more often as surprise boxes instead of actual spoilers, so you've been condition by years of misuse on 4chins to open them regardless.
This is a spoiler free spoiler, it will keep you guessing
The Game.
>>550476904I don't but that's because I have to keep berka and iarumas in the front.
Nope not clicking them anymore
>>550476854You need 15 red, 15 blue, 15 yellow, 1 silver ore.The den of light dispatch is pretty bad for giving the yellow stuff.
>>550476904>80 fortThat bothers me more than someone having VIT boon to the point where I don't even register them
>>550477302It's the only one I got...
aieee im spoiling myself
>>550476875With each spoiler you are becoming one of us. SWO!! NoThInG CaN StOp tHe KnOwLeDgE yOu GaInEd!
LULUNARDE IS DAPHNE
but who is velma?
>>550477254you can buy a few for guild points. same with a single silver ore every wek.
>>550477562NIGGA WHERE IS THE BLACK BAR!?SPOILERSANS, GET DOWN!
Why can't I just take these kids to the fucking inn and pay for a month of royal room.
Is it worth grading up your team/masketta straight away? Or hodl them at 60 till they can max level after grading up
>>550477624https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJqZCa-xXvQ
By the time you can regularly get silver gear worth using over your Ebonsteel stuff they’ll probably have eased the gold and silver ore acquisition more.
>>550477702I’d uncap Masketta man right away if you’re going to stick people in the dispatch mines.
>>550475964because on four chins forum we expect an epic meme with cats, boobs and penises instead of an actual spoiler when clicking on that funny super mario box
>>550477702A4 is pretty hard so up to you
>>550477702copper grade first. My mistake was trying to kill yeti without it.
>>550477654>guild points>Spending a currency that can be used on rolls on any thing but rolls>>550477702Just grade them up. You don't even start to lose any xp until 68, and that's only losing from the daily requests.>>550477747You really only need 1 fine ore if you truly got a good piece of silver gear. +15 with similar blessings will outdamage ebonsteel.
I didn't know we had 5* alteration stones.
>>550477928the rolls are too expensive. I've only been buying the gems this whole time and the silver ore.
GWOs, is Iris going to be evil? I'm not sure if I handle hurting her.
>>550478372Gems and bones are the exact same price, buy some bones if you have extra points. I suppose silver ore for less than 1/4 of a roll isn't that bad compared to 30 marks in the banner exchange.I still wouldn't stock up on silver ore ahead of actually finding a weapon you absolutely need to +20.
>>550478670Albinos are inherently evil, gwo
New icon for when your thief activates their Jew powers.
>>550478829i only have a single +20 as it is
The above lvl 60 resurrection cost isn't too bad. I keep forgetting that deaths without the greater harken cost 25 fortitude instead of 15.
Gonna start A4, how would you compare it to Guarda difficulty-wise?
>>550479624the environment is better the fights are worse in certain spots. Having 6 birds speed/eva buff themselves then attack isn't fun.
10.25million xp for lvl 70, matches the prediction>>550479624The same so far, easy regular floors with difficult bosses.Blizzards are harder than FOES on the first run, but less annoying on any return trips.
>>550479913I guess its a good thing SAM and NIN learn nothing useful 60-70.
>>550479624Maps are easy to navigate, but the enemies can be really annoying. They can still 2-shot you and have high accuracy and dodge, but the main gimmick of the abyss causes a new status called chill which progresses to freeze which lowers your ASPD/ACC/EVA in return for drastically lowering your damage taken. I've had fights where I just kept missing for 3 rounds against 1 enemy.
>>550479987My D0 Yuzu will probably be 70 by the time I finish A4.
Any GWO advocating for skipping the grade up exam can kindly go EXPLODE
>>550480103What's the exp farm strat?
>>550478850I can fix her.
>>550480371Kill monsters. I'm grabbing the chests on 4/5/6, but it's twisted sliver so the rates for anything good are awful.
>>550480368The real issue is the sheer amount of tags needed.I only have enough for 7~8 bronze grades so I'll need to think hard on who to grade up.
>>550480368I want to at least do the yeti fuck without upgrading, more as a personal challenge.
>did it again
>>550479624You basically need a new set of gear if you want an easier time (speed, accuracy) as the old meta (eva) will struggle against the new weather debuff. You can still beat it but expect a lot of rezing since they're going to outspeed you.
This place looks comfy.Don't let anything take a turn in this fucking cave because it will fuck you up.
curiosity killed the cat
DO NOT OPEN MAJOR SPOILER
I feel like only when you start facing the wolves you should consider copper grade
opening spoilers getting as dangerous as opening chests...
Got this from some ice slimes, it's a ring. Leveling increases resist and defence
>>550482523looks ass
>when you're absolutely sure you had cleared out the area you've been through before logging out and now they're suddenly enemies behind you when you log back inBull fucking shit.
>>550482523Wow, it's terrible
>>550482523The question is does it have any additional unlisted stat bonuses?Some items have auxiliary stat bonuses like detect trap on the hound mask.
>>550482523I think my best monster drop so far is a 3* white. 4* blue is insane.>>550482648iirc it gets +5 defense per level so it could end up being an extra shield for your knights
>>550482705Yeah, they're actively respawning now.
>>550482737No hidden stats. No hidden freeze/chill mechanics (didn't try getting shattered while holding it).
>>550482705They do respawn, yeah.
>>550482842>>550482908Well fuck that shit. I'm hooking out and just restarting the map instead of backtracking for the berries.
>>550482865*kisses u*
>>550480689>grabbing the chests on 4/5/6,show your disarm stats
>>550484141I think it was 139/151 at lvl 60. The chests in the abyss are easier than the ones on the sidequest.
>>550466502ummm just like use a fire scroll on him so he's not frozen???
>>550484341>139/151wtf
>exp daily has a wolf leader nowHis hp was about half the boss version but this was not fun.
>>550484341>170h-how...
>>550484469>>550484571And now with master ring.D4, lvl 3 skills, and +10/10 from relics
>>550484341bah stop making me feel bad for dying and getting timegated by fortitude a few times. I will grind it soon I need the gold. Idk if I'll even attempt wolf anytime soon.
>>550484562how much exp does the wolf give compared to guarda?
>>550484705in general the dailies are giving me like 50k xp drops, unless that was just the special campaign daily.
I always forget this place is full of whales
>>550484692>relic farming it's over...
God I want to just plaster Yeka's stockings with my seed.
>>550484815whales or turbo farm autist(usually the former)
asking again, has anyone been lurking the 2ch thread? How are they liking it?
>>550484705That fight gave 75k. They were calling more wolves so I suppose you could try and farm it out. There was a cursed doll but it ran
>>550484705Double stones is >>550477928>>550484815If I was a whale, I would have bought the 5 detect scroll mission pass.>>550484860>relic farming 3 poltergeists (around 7+ failures), one goblin, two coins, one footpad. I got an extra footpad and goblin from the exchange.
So is earth splitting strike better than FPS?
>>550469883sexo
>>550485197Earth splitter and poise strike might not have an accuracy bonus. If it is a fight where accuracy doesn't matter, they are better.
>>550485059They HATE it and are starting a petition
>>550485412A petition about which aspect? Is it a spoiler?
>wow this try is going pretty goo-
>>550485740
>Kill cyclops miniboss>updateJD YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
>>550483582This is getting out of hand now... The respawn rate is absurd.
>>550482865BOW!
>>550486331It dropped me where I left off, good luck anon>>550486426Just dodge the conga line when they enter a big room
>>550486554I got fucked no sp and it fully healed.
maybe if people are trying to skip all your bosses, they aren't well designed? :)
Savor the risk
>>550486547
>>550486554I hooked out when a wolf respawned on the other end but here's a picture of when I scouted ahead.
anus
Counter to the wolf boss?
>>550487292>66 sp for only 30% water weakness bonus
trapper doko
>Cannot be upgraded
there are ninjas?
Neutral man and Berk are going to be the only ones that can afford to cast this.
Before
>>550488530After
I still have no idea what magic type are most enemies even weak against here?
>CAW CAW>MY CONTROLLER GETS POSSESSED BY THE DEVILSeriously, fuck you JD
>>550488970Monsters are untyped. Adventurers are random stuff.Most of the snow monsters are weak to fire.
>>550489105THERE IS A DEVIL IN YOUR ASSHOLE! USE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO REVERSE IT AND MAKE IT COME OUT!
>>550489105AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE NIGGERCROW TASUKETEEEEEEEE
floor 3 was spooky
Water resistance weakeningVs red spinnerYekat- 414, red spinner staff>migal1 - 356>MU2 migal1 - 569>WW migal1 - 421 (+18%)>WW MU2 migal1 - 647(+14%)>WW MU2 migal5 - 1583Alice-507>lamigal-588>MU1 lamigal-893>WW lamigal-751 (+28%)>MU1 WW lamigal- 1046 (+17%)Weaker than mental unity 1. Neutral-man 15% buff to the whole party would be really good, so his is probably weaker.Text is white so I think no samurai passive or STAB would apply. I don't know where Alice's +28% came from, I'll try again.
>>550490573Yek>migal5 - 909>WW migal5 - 1084 (+19%)Alice>lamigal - 626>WW lamigal - 756 (+20.8%)
>>550490573what's a good number for magic power? like 300?
>>550491189The higher the better, while maintaining ASPD to outspeed all enemies. Just accept that mages will die if an enemy coughs in their direction.
Got the "Good"(lol) end, here's what the Admiral quest reward passive skill book does.
>>550491471Alright speedrunner-kun, your job now is to run hundreds of tests to figure how strong the buff actually is.
>>550491471Sounds like a skill for Sam masketta since he'll be the only one who will benefit from all three offensive stats.
>>550491471Holy shit what a fucking brick
me: "um... sweatie, can you stop?"big wolf: "no :D" *casts Linked Howling, Packlord's Great Howl, Breath of Cold, Glacial Storm*
>>550491419Im more trying to find a good number for berka to be at when equipped with a staff
>>550492620I don't have her. I would assume mixed is bad and are you are better off filling her whole inventory with 2 full sets of equipment to switch between fighter and mage between battles.
I love how their idea for challenging bosses is "this guy will spam you with every debuff so go and unequipp all the good gear uve built up and try and throw some dogshit anti debuff gear togetherSo fun. I love being FORCED to go back and change my entire loadout for 2 hours rather than having a hard boss that is actually possible to beat unprepared
>>550493362your kinapac and madi?
Every boss so far has been a miserable, doll-tier fucking slog. What the fuck were they thinking
>>550493887I guess they don't want people clearing A4 in a day
>>550493515It doesnt matter, I kinapic and debuff RNG still fucks me. It's dogshit and I refuse to go back to town and put on shitty resitance rings at 2 star white level just because these fucking EOS loving jap fucks refuse to design a single fun boss
>>550493887Don't worry gwo, just farm some shitty white 1* silver gear to beat it
>>550493887I liked the Yeti
>>550493947You misunderstand gwo. I am killing them. I am just not having fun doing it. Bounties was more fun than this dogshit
>>550494230Me too but I also whaled for yuzu and she is made for that fight considering the boss spams new adds every single turn if you kill them consistently
>>550494524if you don't kill the adds he keeps summoning them and fills the screen.
>>550495013How do people without yuzu even do the fight, if you sacrifice 2 fighter turns to oneshot each add, are people just chipping away at the boss with a third fighter slowly?
>>550495340I did it with my scuffed team, by putting the adds to sleep with Berk. With enough magic attack the boss goes to sleep sometimes, too.
>>550495498sounds spooky, if he keeps spawning them eventually you will just have a full screen of awake adds, did you just ha3 nuke the boss over and over or something before it got too much?
>yuzu yuzu yuzu yuzucalm down furry
>>550495340I have Yuzu at 20, and I did the fight at level 60. In my attempt, I managed to sleep the boss 3 times, and he only summoned little shitters twice.
>>550495498>With enough magic attack the boss goes to sleep sometimes, too.You can also sleep+shatter the wolf up next, but a burst of 6k damage isn't enough to stop him from instant-killing the party.
What does Yuzunamiki's anus smell like?
>>550495616What I did was put them to sleep, front row priest 1-taps an add with wild strike, lana kills another, then the rest smacks the boss and the back row priest heals. Eventually he stopped summoning as often because he ran out of HP threshold free actions.
>>550495758I haven't gotten to him yet, but I'm not looking forward to it
Gerulf's bodyheat bonus is +3. Apparently hitting a chilled ice enemy with fire does ~20% more damage than against a non-chilled ice enemy.
I am pogging gwos
We need another class change event or for them to drop the shitty system already
We need class change for generic adventurers
I ran out of tags...
>need to round-trips half my characters for their new skills
>>550498050i only have 8 class change sex ticketshow over is it for me?
>>550498298I actually don't think there's a lot of reason to change for most classes. Knight and priest's new skills are basically their own class only. Wizard is good but so far the wolves and birds can be affected by sleep, so the best spell malefic winds is okish. Fighter is probably the only class I'd swap to because of earth shattering strike. My team is 2 fighters, 1 knight, 1 thief and 2 priest/mage and there's really no reason to swap yet.
>everyone running a knigga nowJD won...
Finally killed the wolf. Got lucky with a knight's defense prediction and only lost two characters to glacial storm. You still need to clear out the uber wolves at the end but you get 3+ free turns to do it.Honestly, reversal resonance could be the meta here because the MC usually does survive, but the other 5 die.
>>550499093Are the wolves magical beasts here? I could try to snipe magical beats slayer trait from the well for it
>>550498894I find knight to be great here because it feels 80% of the attacks are single target. Fights generally are cast kantio, usually most if not all land and kill them. Any fight that has things that doesn't get slept, for example birds has a higher resistance to sleep, I just cover with knight and tank the hits.
>something lies at your feetFUCK YESSSS
>>550499093Surely there isn't a mimic or petrification gas after a boss fight.It was a regular unlocked chest.>>550499317They are beasts. My strategy on these two attempts was to deny the wolf from freezing at all with Gerulf. First attempt lost because he shattered MC with frost fangs so I moved MC to the backline.He only started linked howling after I shattered him, but it could be a coincidence.There was a couple turns in the middle of the fight where I should have prepped mental unity ahead of link howling to make it a 2hko instead of 3hko.There is also a chill mechanic where ice enemies take another +20% from fire damage that I forgot about from the previews.
>>550498050>smartly leave all class changing until Abyss 4 releases>need to either change my party out to make progress or brute force the exam so I can quickly relevel everyoneI have no gold to upgrade gear either, not that I'm getting anything good.
>>550500052>no goldYou have 7 days left. That's no excuse.
>>550500052if you head into the new abyss the starter treasure chests are dropping purple shit that sells for a ton. Do a little farming, 1 trip to explore the copper map, then go back full of potions and wipe it out.
>>550500052the new daily gives you 45,000
Those 4 big bird encounters are brutal, man
>Enemies with two layers of fire weakness>Bosses with extreme amounts of summons>A second area with earth enemiesHow many cocks did Erwin suck to get A4 tailored to him in this way? Also, his banner would have expired on the day before the abyss would have launched if it wasn't delayed.>>550501093>4I've only seen ones with two pre-wolf. I'm not looking forward to that final stretch.
>>550501482if they wanted to shill him they should have ran him on abyss release because he just seemed like utter shit
DIS GAME SO GOODEI LOUV VIZADRYMI KIDNY STON ROTATO
>complains about how hard the new dungeon is>the new ICE dungeon>deliberately passed on the new fire mageWhere were you when you ignored the obvious femboy supremacy like a fucking gay moron?
>>550502324lana fucks this
>>550502324He provides literally nothing over another fire mage.
>>550502324i fucks this
>>550502324>femboyI already have Gerulf. He's just been waiting as a priest since the anniversary and Lana has taken over as my fire-fighter.>>550502509Red Asha wants to be a priest for access to more ailments so she can't use Lahalito.
gerulf's boupussy...
Jesus Christ there are SO many enemies in the 6th floor
>>550502772have you been picking berries that's not yours...
>>550502857Not even, I'm just walking man walking's a human right man
im so glad the cyclops is back in a4 what i would do without him smashing me hard in the bussy
>you can skip the wolf on the second run by giving iris the berry basket from the drunkard, then running back to town and wheeling to the slaying wolf nodethis seems like an oversight but im not complaining
>>550502985There's multiple ways of getting through wolf fight on second run. Is basically the doll fight in A3
>>550502324Berka is my fire mage already
>2nd xp dispatch>discriminates against elvesAs it should be.
>>550502664>Red Asha wants to be a priest for access to more ailmentsNo?
>>550502985Noticed that flag after I beat it again and wondered if it would work.
I forgot that junk grades get worse as you progress until you finally find the fey seedling stuff.
They'll rerun the B&B collab every year right?
>>550504946
>>550504946either 1 year from now (approximately march 2026 when it first ran) or when the anime starts airing (date TBA)
>>550505868sovlnuke
>>550502664>Red Asha wants to be a priestShe's not my momYou're not my mom SWOFuck you I won't do what you tell meMOTHERFUCKERUgh
I've gotten up to the wolf with a +15 spear, +18 dragon slayer, +19 ebon greatsword, +18 Ebon axe. most of my equipment is +10 or +15 on a few pieces at most.
>STR boon 8BP all into STR ShiouSo will she better as a warrior with a +20 Ebonsteel 2H until I get a good Silver Katana?
>>550506470Samurai is a brick class, gwo, let it go
>>550505868How exactly does that help when I'm lost inside the blizzard zone?
>>550505868this make me feel im not autistic enough for this game.
>>550506526No, samurai is a popsicle class.
>>550505868if you don't do this you're a soulless pig
>>550506470>>550506526Shiou got fighter gwo she is savedexcept for the fact that samurai does nothing as a 2nd class and Shiou's unique does nothing for a warrior so you'd be better off using a random asshole general adventurer instead
Who thought having fights against groups of 5+ enemies giving them a FREE ambush was a good idea? Fuck these berries.
>>550506794but my writing is uglier than a doctor's...
>when you realize you could've just bought some gpddamn anti-chill/freeze boots/sweater in the goddamn shopWhy didn't I check the shop first before I set out for the abyss? WHY?
>>550507110They only add +2 heat in exchange for losing all your blessings. Don't change your gear until you get down to 2 heat remaining and stuck in a blizzard.
>>550507345I have shitty boots already (RNG hates me) so I'm not losing that much.
Is 2H Fighter still blatantly better than every other class for damage?
>>550506560it has nothing to do with autism there just didn't used to be automapping in these games. Im surprised there's no spinner tiles in some of these storms.
>>550505576
>>550507681Yes and no. Fighter does consistently high damage but unless you had been minmaxing ACC, you ain't hitting that bird that just accelerated without the casters debuff/buffing everything first.
>>550507743>there's no spinner tilesThat's the next abyss along with permament level drain.
>>550507681The new skills give them safe consistent damage, so probably.>>550507895That accelerated bird is still hard to hit with precision strike thief. Which physical attacker are you suggesting to compare against fighters here?
>>550507681if you don't have some type of magic aoe you're fuckt this abyss
Route 6 might be the best place for farming yet given how close the fountain and the harken is after you finished the wolf boss.
How good are Berk and Iarumas in the new abyss with the new skills she gets?
>>550508090Guess I'm just bias since my kot samurai had decent ACC along with torso strike. Still misses but she can at least hit the bird somewhat without relying on the 5% RNG.
>>550508120But LA- spells only do like 400~500 damage. So you need atleast 2 mages or 2 Lego Priest/Mages with Secret Art.
>>550508573>after you finished the wolf boss.It's the doll boss equivalent where all the good loot comes just before the GWO but after beating the most annoying boss of the abyss.
there are too many goddamn enemy spawns wtf is my ass that stinky
>>550508573>after you finished the wolf bossWouldn't you go into the mine to at least have a chance of fey junk? I don't think the Kag is good enough to tank your chances of getting any good silver gear.>>550508703Chilled ice enemies are double weak to fire. Mage Asha, Erwin, and Berk stonks are up.
>>550508703I have access to 3 la spells and it feels like im finally playing wizardry blasting enemy groups to pieces.>>550508593I have them both with HA2. Berka's damage has doubled for 1 less SP thanks to the new attack. She gets 1 shot by the birds spell for 400 sometimes tho. Iarumas doesn't get his skill until 68.
>>550508593berk is unironically savediaru's null debuff might make him really good
there are special voice lines per character for when u turn on autoplay lol.
>Fire mages are sa->gets one shot
>>550508614I could see katanas being a bit better than some of the two-handers just because they get to try to hit the bird twice.Shiou could still be one of the burst damage dealers for meme screenshots because you can give her another 40(?)% damage with fire katana, chill, and fire weakening.
>>550509404My Asha survives water spells just fine
>boss summons the thralls of cocksuckula and breathes on you in the middle of a blizzard that somehow fucking works instead of being blown away.Cool go fuck yourself JD
I will be giving Iarumas one of the samurai swords soon because I like how they look.
>>550509832Give him the really cool looking one.
Can you handle the almighty three-chest beating?
>>550508864I think it's alright for general loots and exp farm since between the harken and the fountain there are 2 encounters, you just finish those and warp out or rest when low on MP so you don't even need to go back to town. The encounters also sometimes be a mimic which drops fey junk (though maybe I got lucky) and the ninja spawned too. But overall shit loots though I agreed.
any clues about the missing knights in sections 5-8?
AAAAA PLEASE RERUN YUZUI FELL FOR NINJER BRICK PROPAGANDA
Does this Abyss have the trust-draining trap too?Because if it does, fuck that, I'll wait until the farming caves open up in a few months.
Fire and chill. VS scorpion bounty.Alice>dalto - 327>halito - 370>chill halito - 441 (+19.1%)>frozen halito - 445 (+20.3%)Asha>halito - 237,239>chill halito - 273,283 (+15.2%)>frozen halito - 275 (+16.0%)Gerulf>eruption1 - 957>chill eruption1 - 1190 (+24.3%)>frozen eruption1 - 2003 (shatter) (+109.3%)>eruption3 - 1605>chill eruption3 - 1925 (+19.9%)>frozen eruption3 - 3175 (shatter) (+97.8%)Freeze/chill is impractical outside of A4 right now, especially against bosses with 15 heat/30 freeze.
>Ambushed by hidden enemy!>Ambushed by hidden enemy!>Ambushed by hidden enemy!>Ambushed by hidden enemy!>Ambushed by hidden enemy!They're just doing this bullshit to shill the trapmaster later, aren't they?
>No! No no. Not me. NEVER me...Ashacute
Im surprised they let us cast spells while frozen.
>>550502931do you have dwarves, beast-folk and elves in your party? they don't get human rights
>>550508703My ~550 MAG D0 Yek with no Skill levels does 700+ w/SA, and that's the difference between one-shotting most of everything and not, and needing to bring a 2nd Mage or not. At the beginning I gave Asha Yek's gear and brought Flut too, but there is no point, Secret Art is better than red number and it's not close
>kill every yeti add>survive all the breath>enragehttps://youtu.be/kXYiU_JCYtU?si=FCtX1vmCQ4lEqwGJ2.6 billion views wtf?
>>550512592bwo your dissipation or that mage buff removal?
>>550512273>AshaIs this against goblins or ice enemies? I fail to see how secret beats Lahalito with an 60% damage boost (80% under chill). Or does ice being untyped prevent the STAB bonus?
>>550512708i was able to burn him. I'm just numb to all the party wipe bullshit they pull at this point.
>>550512909imagine how much vitality she has in bed
>>550512831I mean in general, do you want to be Fire and struggle against every pack of 9 goblins or adventurers or whatever so you can overkill a small wolf and still need 1 melee hit on a Yeti, or just murder everything (except the yetis and big birds) with one Secret Art? There aren't enough pure fire-weak packs to justify the hassle and the HP thresholds are set so that there is barely any advantage to be had, it's not at the Abyss 2 level of Earth having the supreme advantage
best place to farm scorp relic?
I agree with the devs. Treasure chests doing full stone and crit poison is fucking GAY
Wait, is the wolf boss' 1 shot attack... random? Did they seriously add an attack that 1 shots your entire party... that he may decide to use or not...?
>>550513746Bounty twin scorpionessEasy and gives you bounty points
>>550508809Nah, enemies respawn, and I think it can overlap with the current respawns. I had posted some images of the absurd spawns above.
>>550505486evil loves to cuddle
>>550513973I did like 10+ attempts and only saw the first part of it near the end of the winning attempt once I figured out how to survive longer, if it was random I think I would have seen it earlier
>>550513746Scorpion bounty. But you'll probably get enough from any other relic hunts or grinding you do.>>550513467Fair. I think I made it to the route 6 fountain with yuzu and priest Yekat myself. I only added mage Alice as a second, stronger caster for farming and it made things much smoother.
I got a snowhare relic and was curious if they stack. They do count as different buffs and snow is neutral.
>>550514175How do you survive it then?Please don't say knigger's defense, I'm tired of knigger's defense
L:ooks like a new item opens up after you clear the mines. Anyone check and see how busted it can get, same surety hit as the digging mattock but at least it can be purchsed from the chop.
>>550506254just go in the dens a few times and get them to +20 stop being lazy
>>550514421Same effect? I only got 1 snow goblin myself. Slagged several big birds, wolves, and babies.
>>550513328Imagine? My Yuzu is Vit boon.
>>550514570its mostly a lack of money. it was really hard to get before. That's why im grinding at 5th route now.
"Evade trap" is for finding traps on the ground right? useless for chests? Looking at the relics I do have to see if I can make Rinne better at it and there's a lot of bugwings.
>>550514556It's probably for thieves because their best ice breaker is one-handed clubs for 5.>>550514892My grinding route was 4,5, and 6. Enter at 5, check the bottom section of 6, warp back to 4, check the top portion of 4 and bottom of 5, then leave.
>>550514521First, you fill up everyone's inventories with your 1000 Nourishing Potions, then... nonstop Knigger's DefenseBut also, other posters say he freezes you then storms back to back, but that didn't happen to me, which means Batilgref+Porto saved my ass once again! All hail the 5-turn buff Alice
>>550514750Yup + Surety -divine
>>550515064I think evade is also for dodging failed chest openings. That relic is completely useless.>>550515143I had one attempt where he took a turn out of order to freeze everyone, I got one action with knight Debra (I was an idiot and didn't KD), then it was his turn for a glacial blast.
>>550515143It's always knigger's defense and I'm getting really fed up with it
>>550514521Proc wotk, adam, and sanctuary on mc to survive, then 1-tap your whole party back to life with reversal resonance.Easy peezy.
>You WILL slot in a Knigger and you WILL be thankful.EVA chuds kneel to their Knigger Kings.
Need another cave event so I can farm not shit junk
>>550515071i unlocked the tree reversal and started farming to level up. I don't wana push too hard tonight.
>>550516467Aiieee Eulalia save me
>>550516467Tonight I will summon my 5bp luck boon king-killer knigger (kkk) after his CC is revealed. Preferably samurai, so I don't have to keep him as a knigger.
>>550516467yeah I was thinking about not even swapping Lana to fighter since Knight is so good rn. I guess i still want to for some passives.
What kinda relicbrews do you generally have attackers drink? I guess making the attack ones match their alignment is more important than the rest?
We all agree then that the wolf is the cheapest boss they've ever made, right?
I have never used a relicbrew.
>>550517115You only need a single alignment bonus to unlock the 4th relic slot.It's scorpion, cyclops, your alignment bonus, then whatever 4th you want.
Fighter is pretty shitty as a sub class desu Most things transferable to other classes are able to be inherited. Fighter is a selfish class that wants to be the main one
>>550510931Yeka chads, we just simply can't stop winning.
Den of Water, available after Good end(?), at least that's when I noticed it.Drops high,fine,and silver ore. Also has junk that drops silver tier water weapons/armor(although frustratingly enough, shit crucible junk can still drop as well). Mud slows movement and gives aspd debuff in combat. Enemies are lizardmen/slimes/entities/pixies, although they're easier than the later A4 variants. Has a 20H dispatch like the others as well.
>>550517410yeah I mean is it better to go get Hobgoblins instead of chimeras for Yuzu or something since she'll get more attack. or is the extra 1-2 points not a big deal
>>550505868The most soul in gaming since Wizardry 8.
>>550517729Bwo you blazed through cyotents in 2 daysWtf
>>550517729What does the dispatch require?
>>550517548>We get silver earth weapons>Yeka gets earth weakening to make your fighters hit harderThank you mommy queen.>>550517729>silver water weaponsAlice stonks.>>550517826Hobs were pretty bad due to mostly being 2* drops. They re-appear in A4 so you might be able to farm 4* now. The 1-2 attack doesn't matter.
>>550517729that's nice
I've only beaten the Bigfoot, please don't kick me from the guild mwos(master warped ones)
>>550517729>silver waterMandatory grind if you want to engage with freeze mechanics outside of A4.
>>55051802760 lvl requirement, 6 people, 4 Erf.
I moment of silence for the FWOs(frozen warped ones) that didn't make it back from the new abyss.
>161 disarmare you fucking shitting me
when was octo able to see lulu? I must have missed that scene
4 Fighter/2 Priest:>Abe/MC/Lana>Yeka/Alice/GerulfShould I change anyone? I have Liviana/Gillion/Shiou for melees too. I have Asha/Marianne/Adam for Priest/Mage. Liviana is probably better than Abe for bosses but her flash normally kills a mob. Alice has no SA aoe but has lv 3 Mamagil and lv5 Magil.
Spoilers? Not clicking them
>>550517107just use knight debra
>>550519072All the GWOs have tried to attack her
>>550518930lol dude i have 95 disarm. Every trap is a tiny sliver and I almost never miss.
Should Knight's defense spamming kniggas go first or last?
>>550519124yeah now that we can xp dispatch at guarda and deepsnow I might start working on class changes finally.
How does the new pick axe work?B & B Rerun when? What the fuck is the point of knights Knighter defense skill. They got the same skill twice
>>550519118So far every single spoilered post was just a ruse from that damned Enigmatic Wind!
>>550519114You need 2 less priests and 2 more fighters
>>550518880Looks like I will not be partaking in that dispatch for a while.>>550518930The mimic chests are incredibly obvious.
>>550519124i only have one copy of golden debra
how did this get past QC?
Map 9 has a couple of bigfoot blocking chests. they don't chase or anything
>>550519769And I just got a critical on one of them. Wonder if the boss one is vulnerable to crits
What will be the weapon tier above silver? Mithril or somthin?
>>550519703>Cover defense up>More turns on the cover portion, but not the blocking>Higher chance to trigger the block effect>Stronger block effectAn increase to cover chance is missing?
>>550519368Read it again, the defensive state literally just means defend. The new skill is all cover and defend action in one. Cover defense is the same thing where your knight can randomly defend and generate opening when cover is active. It means even if enemies hit your knight directly and no cover happens, as long as the knight has cover turns then an opening can happen. Is a neat skill.
every chest.
>>550477005don't they only sell these books in insanely overpriced packs?Honestly at some point they should really rethink the current exp grind (and tags) because getting new characters is becoming an ever increasing hassle with every uncap
>>550520230What having 150 > disarm does to you.
>>550520123its the non detailed skill description. it sounds like gibberish to me.
yo master priest
I can't use Secret Art LA spells on priest anymore. Did that get nerfed?
>>550519263HELP ME OR I'LL CRY ALL OVER YOUR GAMER CHAIR AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>550520382it does the job
>>550520481Its only in the middle back row
>>550520481are they in the middle spot?
>>550519263first
>>550520581It's only one turn so slow enough to be behind the rest of your team but fast enough to go before the enemies.
A bit late but I'm happy with the rolls :)
>Don't have to feed gandolfo to my fighters for heavy attack now that they get earth-splitter strike
>>550520638>>550520662Oh right... I forgot.
>>550520321They'll just make a new tier and sell it for a few cents more, then discontinue the old one.>>550520435That toggle tells you which aspect of the skill improves when you level it up. You are right that the description is too vague at separating out the cover vs defend parts of the level up.
>>550520747every day that I regret not farming dragon slayer....
>>550520230Probably a Mimic. There's a fuckloadIf you get a gold one it can drop nice thief gloves
>>550520141Can you extend cover turns?
>>550520782Not like it matters anyway, HA is pretty much useless for most encounters unless you REALLY need the hit.
>>550520954nope. I haven't run into many mimics at all. That's just how small it is at 95 disarm on fighter MC.
>>550520782gachidolfo bros we're free
Is Lv1 better than HA3?
>>550520782Now that I look at gandolfo, accuracy and surety discipline seems kind of good…
the gold from this chest event is so nice bros
>>550521043I've been using Torso Strike Lv2 instead when I need ACC.
>>550521182Earth splitter? Yes.Poise strike? Yes.Drastic strike? keep forgetting to check itThief attack? God noNinja poke? Who knows?
I'm pretty sure I've been one shot by Bigfoot adds for 5/6 of my flames used so far
>>550521458They do it to frozen charactersPut them to sleep before they headbutt you
>>550521458I don't think he can summon or use breath while frozen but the fight slows to a crawl with how much damage reduction he gets.
>>550521182if you're talking about earth splitter its like HA4 while also only being 7 sp so you can spam it for normal encounters. >>550343050>>550362895
>>550521034Cover turns yes
100k a pop
i've become so numb...
>seeing a red dot at the inn
>>550522025covered in drool atleast its not cum.>>550522167It's always a skill issue just git gud
>>550522318Golden Mimics are known to partake in bukkakes.
[SAD NEWS]ESS(Earth Splitting Strike) does not activate on auto if you have learned HA1.
Just git gud.
>>550522835class-auto or repeat-auto?
Got a 9 BP luck boon Clarissa. Do I put the BP in speed like a normal person or do I go full luck for the extra 2ish% chance to activate stuff like WotK and Cover Defense?
Yek sneezing on me in the cold of winter, covering me in her fluids
>>550521815You have to level the skill to 7. Wtf bro. Not with that SP cost (24).
I can't wait for Priest Galbadus. Budget Lord
>>550523974>auto-taunt priestIt's fighter or samurai. I wonder if Drecom has the cojones to release 4 figher CCs in a row.
>Trapper is a boring human male or dw*rfYour reaction to this?
Uhm, excuse me? Even with knight's defense the wolf's storm hit me for 700?
>>550523134class auto.
Share your thoughts about nyabyss 4
>>550526212Cool mechanics, cool setting, dogshit bosses, as usual
>>550526212Iris is cute
>>550526212Gear farming still sucks ass and one handed weapons are just detrimental to use at this point
>>550525038I think he doesn't cast it if you clear his chill/freeze stacks
>>550526539He absolutely does, my whole team was using inferno scrolls... he simply used blizzard to freeze himself + the one shot.
>>550526212I like the atmosphere and everything except the fights. Like, I got to floor 6 yesterday, but my first encounter there, I got ambushed, and a wolf hit me for 500+, so I am like man fuck this shit.
>>5505262125/10 Setting( 3 points Deducted for using bigfoot instead of yeti)7/10 story (we finally get to to see daphne)10/10 audio(Majula level town music)8.5/10 gameplay(Freeze and snowstorms are kino)8/10 Farming ( having leveling back makes farming very tolerable )
I keep hearing ppl say they got ambushed doing the berry quest, I finished it and didn't get anything aside from a ton of regular fights, what gives?
>>550527564It's, as everything else in this game, RNG, down to the berry placements
>>550527249>Majula level town musicIt's good but it's not even close to Majula.
>>550527564While picking berries one of the results can be an ambush, which is extra fun if everyone decides to target MC.
Just roast couple of the 5000 rabbits you killed along the way and give it her instead of picking berries gwos
>>550526212Fuck these blue birds
Shiou has saved me a flame several times just using her skill to taunt and tank a 1k+ damage hit. I swear its more effective than knigger taunts ever were
>>550502509doesnt his signature do more damage to the one target if there's a lot of enemies? sounds like he was made with this abyss in mind
>>550528573>do decent damage single target fireball>:D>entire party raped by 7 wolves next turn
I think it's time to use some of these scrolls.
>>550528670Aw hell no
>>550528573You're much better off using a lahalito, doing almost the same ST damage, AND killing the 87 adds behind the boss
>>550528670i look like this
>>550528969>>550528762The final set of wolves have so much hp that he probably can't even kill them in one lahalito, and they get instantly replenished. Probably better to take the risk of targeting the boss twice with his signature skill instead.
>>550529116Show me your poop throwing arm, kid
>>550529116I look like this
>>550528670nightmare fuel
I picked up magic beast slayer in the well and it's been a huge help this abyss
>Trying to get a single poison proc to test drastic strike>Go from 100 fort to 0Good thing Galina is a bench sitter.
>>550529175heee hooo No ooooh aaaah eeek *spits and pisses on you*
>>550529623your gillion?
>>550523489More into luck as the direction of knight passive continue to scale off luckIf you want a speedy knight you are better off using Barbara or Ophelia instead
>>550529842Setting up fences for another 2 hours. Also not getting the tags for a while.
How much fucking HP does the copper grade negrocore have?
>>550529821Outstanding, you're hired as the A5 greater warped one
>>550530756Pretty low, like 10k at most? You got lazy and didn't take undead weapons did you.
I think the wolf boss uses his 1shot if there are at least 6+ wolves at the same timeThe problem is he gets so many free actions you can absolutely get unlucky and he can do linked howl+freeze+ice storm and there's pretty much nothing you can do
>>550530987To be fair, there's no way to know what the boss is going to be.
What's with this trend of having the 2nd boss be a billion times harder than the GWO?The ghost fish, the doll, and now Ice McFurry
>>550531003Drastic strike>HA4 - 1415>100% ds - 610>463/620 ds (0.747) - 1008>377/620 ds (0.608) - 1243>265/620 ds (0.427) - 1476>181/620 ds (0.292) - 1693>147/620 ds (0.237, red hp) - 1882>49/620 ds (0.079) - 2091>1/620 ds - 4177 surety>1/620 ds - 2088Had to waste a nourishing because of the crit. I guess the damage caps out just before Gillion would kill himself.
>>550531003I think the post saying 6+ wolves and frozen was incorrect, I've been spamming fire attacks and I've seen him do it out of turn order and alone twice now
does anyone even want this weapon type?
>lost to big wolf 6 times>no hookDo I have no other option other than this now
>>550531347i was going to do him this morning but they already fixed the blizzard glitch those fuckers
>>550532105You can still get back to the harken, you only need to fight 3 small wolf packs behind you
early exploiters winning big again
>>550532105Always bring your hooks. Unless you can kill the mini wolves behind you and run away I think you're fucked. I also think you have to get the berries again if you accept death
>>550532029Unironically Yuzu in some auto-farming set-ups. But it is dumb to make a +20 weapon for auto-farming.>>550532105I never tried, but alt+f4 should reset you to just before death. Wait two hours for a flame, and complete your walk of shame back home.Or bitch out, "forced recovery", and pick your berries again.
I killed this set of bigfoots not 10 minutes ago and they're already back.
>>550532029They added a new trinket that buffs the weapon type when both are equipped apparently>>550532320No need to get the berries again, once the mission is complete it's done.
>>550532105i had to accept the other day and all it really did was make me wait to revive the team.
Why didn't I listen to Nootralman when he mentioned the bug...
>>550532029No not really. A frontline ningger is just a worse fighter. Ninggers go in the back row.
Iris is a qt. Can we leave the stinky ghost behind and just have her be the Variant Daphne
I don't want to wait for Trapper. Really dissapointed it's not on thursday.
>>550532437The spawns are nuts.
>>550532105Alt f4 and wait for new flames
The GWO should be in the background when you camp
250 junk and I got like 1 useable piece from Route 5
new banner when
>>550534097I managed to get the beclouded kunai/katana equivalent pretty quickly but sadly I can't do much with them until I stumble across a load of dupes
How many different adventurers have you used in A4 so far?>Yuzu>Debra>Alice>Lana>Galina>Gerulf>Asha>Olive>Yekat>Ophelia>>550534430Ranger Galbadus in 4 hours.
>>550529607What weapon is this?
>>550534808Well of the mind anon
>>550534527yeah needing thirty fucking two items to max one out is insanely fucked up
>>55053488427 copies
>>550534808It's the well of the mind perk. Magical beast slayer-resist. Randomly appears in the slayer-resist nodes of the advanced sections.Almost every weapon got a beast slayer variant in this abyss too.>>550534884>32Anon, 3x3x3 is 27
church route down. two left.you got IQ light for getting good end.can confirm den of water unlocked after that.
Is Neutral Smirker good now? Is his first still worth using?
wow I should have upgraded Yuzu's sig to lvl 3 immediately. Everything is so much easier now when she crits for 900
Thoughts on quickly nuking the Copper exam? Everything seems to have low ACC so i'm guessing a EVA team will make subsequent farms alot quicker.
>>550535059Still too many. 15 would be the upper most limit.6 Gacha dupes to max
>cyclops and bigfoot just fucking oneshot me if they ever land a hitOh boy, I sure do love RNG fests.
>>550535328I'm quite happy with my high ASPD Gillion in this Abyss. His Unique clears rows that MA or LA spells would not be able to clear in a single hit.
Please tell me there's a hot spring nearby before I run back to the previous map
>>550534582Deb/Lana/Gerulf/Adam/Alice/Abenius
>>550535506The copper fight is hell. You still die
>>550535958Copper is fucking easy, what the fuck are you smoking?
>>550535805there is one around here.
>>550528823best investment I've ever made >>550531003Pretty sure you just need to burn him from time to time
>>550445152when you use Knight Defense against Glacial Storm, you also need to remove frozen status beforehand, correct?i had Knight Defence and it one shot everyone, trying to figure out why
>>550536462the storm shatters your freeze and when you get shattered you take a bajillion damage
>>550531910same, i'm pretty sure they hardcoded it so that the wolf does it at least once per fight, no matter what
just dont be cold gwot. wolf leader
>>550534582Savia/Debra/Lana/Alice/Sheli/Benis, I will level up Shiou later just for cyclops farming because some of their weapon drops looks pretty cool then my ninja team for auto farming and whoever is good for true end A4.
>>550536462>>550536545Shatter is supposed to be double damage compared to unfrozen. Glacial storm probably has unique mechanics.Even if you hunt down the potion seller a bunch of times to stock up on hammers, you can still only use one hammer per action so you are never saving the party. On my winning run, I used KD2 and only had two downed party members.You did save your five knight's defense scrolls, right?
>>550535958I beat it first try blind and didn't bring any undead slaying weapons for the Nightcore. I only killed one of the side bosses. Abe died though. I'm fairly sure on a team who all have 140 EVA atleast on the front row will be able to easily beat it on repeat attempts withount killing the side bosses.. Alice keeps a 4 turn Cortu on the team to negate most of the damage from the Nightcore spamming his spells. Especially once you get atleast 3 fighters with earth shatter, SP shouldnt be a issue.That or you can probably just auto attack through the whole exam with enough EVA and if you take down all the side bosses first.None of the enemies have high acc or high eva
>>550536898>On my winning run, I used KD2 and only had two downed party membershow did you predict the wolf would do it?
This might be prety strong
I'm fucking stupid, I should have checked what tag went to what ranking.Also, when I read that you could apparently do one rank, and it counted for the next. I thought I would be able to skip needing to rank up a char, fuck me for not asking I guess.At least I can use these to rank up my main squad to level 60.
>>550537767He started using linked summon and ice storm when I had prevented him from freezing at all during the fight. I got lucky.
One class down, too many remaining.Also, Yekat loses her priest hp until I can pull a summer alt.
>>550537052My level 60s team evasion is in the 80s. How do you get it so high?
Seriously, someone fucking TELL ME the strat for the wolf boss, he literally gets a free 1 shot AoE action no matter what I do, not even knight's bullshit can tank it
>>550538775You have to keep him from being frozen. unfortunately the turn order doesnt always allow that. Try and use chronostasis and porto
>>550538896He wasn't frozen at all, he literally activated the attack when he got hit by a lahalito
Seems like armsmanship is also broken on greatsword, despite what the patch notes say. +7 accuracy and +7 aspd on daggers?>>550538775RNG. MC uses all his rng procs to not die, one-taps a revival, saves everyone with reversal resonance.Has anyone tried just tanking glacial storm with defend?
>>550538775I'm assuming they aren't memeing when they say get lucky, on my most recent try he used it out of turn order while not frozen / 0 addsI managed to live with 5 up after a lucky reversalAND THEN HE FUCKING DID IT AGAIN ON HIS TURN
>>550538081I don't get it you can still merge those for the iron tag
>>550539240Honestly he might just be bugged
>>550538775>>550536637
>when you forgot to bring a hook and have to go all the way back to the harkenThis really sucks
>>550539291I Pre swapped tags because I thought this>you can skip trials>That means that you can go straight to the level cap of 40And I was preparing to rank up some of my extrra adventurers for dispatch reasons. And I ended up accidentally swapping the incorrect tag.
>>550538674Getting lucky and rolling EVA on your gear and sacrificing other stats. Using Lightboots, that one unique light chest quest reward. If a fight can be cheesed by EVA like most of Abyss 1 and 2, then most other stats besides ATK don't really matter as much and you can afford to lower them.The thing is that just about any actual difficult content in A3 and A4 will fuck over anyone trying that. Bit it's still generally good for farming lower tier mobs. I was honestly suprised that the copper exam had way lower acc and eva than the 1st floor mobs from A4.
>>550538775Wait for the next cave to farm gear and/or the next powercreep adventurer
>>550539494you probably have a few dupes you will never use you can dismiss rn
>>550539358I think the aoe normally has a low chance of happening but being frozen or 6+ wolves on field dramatically increases the chance.
>>550539417Get used to it the entire abyss is about making new shortcuts to the next floor.
Sorry Iris I will pick your berries next year...
>>550539559That's not going to save you from a guaranteed, out of turn, 100% 1.3k hit
>>550539639I was planning to finish exhuming the non-renewable crypts, I guess I can do that.
Plz stop spoiling slowfags like me, I just finished the Yeti boss. K thx bye.
That's a longass walk back to the GWO...
>Patch notes says armsmanship works on two-handed swords>It's actually one-handed swordsNice proofreading and QC, JD.+7 aspd is pretty cool once it works on dual kunai. The skill is able to be upgraded with xp books.
>>550539658No, it's 100% guaranteed once he reaches a certain HP threshold. what I'm asking is what the fuck am I supposed to do, because if I hit him he insta kills the entire team even through knight's defense.He had 0 wolves and he was not frozen.
could you spoil what kind of dispatches you unlock after beating the wolf?this could affect my determination to kill it
>>550539661Are you sure it's shortcuts and not simply eliminating the fog of war? And why do I get the feeling that true/perfect end requires going through the map without growing a single tree?
>>550540090-unfroze your MC before it happens-rank up your KD-get more HP by leveling up
>>550540136xp/junk 20h dispatch featuring racism >>550503515
>>550539672Gerard alt with a passive that specifically protects against that move
>>550540286How do I unfreeze? And even if my MC survives with a hammer, all my party is going to die anyways.I am not a whale.I am not going to get to 750 HP by leveling up.
>>550540463Is the damage affected by def or mdef?
>>550540771I am taking 750 damage with knight's defense+makaltu level 5, so I guess magic defense
>>550540176at lvl 70 walking through all those fights will be cake
>>550540463Everyone got free scrolls for KD. I think I got mine while I was in A2.Other tactics to consider>see if makalti can block freeze (it could not block the yoto's self freeze)>carry scrolls and pray that confusion lands>carry scolls and pray that sleep lands>figure out whether the skill is magic or physical and buff/debuff accordingly>stack knight's defense and defend
Do I actually have to kill the GWO in that fight?
>relic enemy>drops a chest>Oops! Mimic>kill it>no Relic or even SlagWell fuck you too.
>>550540991Sleep and confusion aren't going to matter, I got lucky with a hammer stun and he still cast it.
call me when the wolves can be cheesed
>>550540991Manalti does not block freeze, no.
>>550540871I guess you're trying cortu next. Or you just have shit luck and the aoe never proc's because it was a bug.
>>550541374Did it not proc for you? After 2 linked howls, he will do it when he gets hit.
>>550541123>>550541307Wolf hats? Or they won't work because it skips from nothing to frozen?The bodyheat buff on Gerulf was useless so I assume both sets of wool are useless too.
>>550541243Savia's Ancestors...
Yeka...
>>550541620The storm freezes immediately, no matter the frost resistance.
>>550541243Bow Rinne one-shots a whole row of them..
>>550541940Even the linked howling uber wolves?
>>550541940She does 2k damage?
I think I need to farm some gear and bench Yuzu for the GWO fight. What's our best junk loop? i had some 7% 4* rate stuff but i didnt pay attention to what floor dropped it.
>>550542127i warned you gwos, the gwo is antiwhores
>>550541542People did beat it already so there's a hidden trigger that you've missed, a way to survive it or it's a bug. No matter what happens, you're still going to need to retry it anyway.
>>550542127Sidequest has a high drop rate from enemies but the chests are harder.I think the route 1 vanilla junk should have highest 4* rate, but also highest ebonsteel rate.You start getting seedling fey junk on route 7
lmao at the get a man drunk minigame
Holy shit, I finally became (formerly good)neutral after doing a few hundred ambushes>>550542069>>550542059nta but I have the skill on MC / Wana 700~ atkthey can take out a row of the base onesI have Asha MU2 then La- spamming when the big ones come out and that + a MoF clears a row of those
>>550540291thanks, fuck I want that...
>>550542462drink up!
is the gwo weak to dark?
>>550538896It literally doesn't matter. After a certain HP threshold he instantly one-shots. I have done the fight 10 times and last time he wasn't frozen for a single turn. Still insta one shot.
Hypothetically, let's say that I have Yuzu on the frontline with a katana. She needs to inherit a damage skill, which one?>Heavy attack>DTS>Wild strike
>can no longer progress in the abyss because I didn't use the bug to get rid of the storm in the wolf fightWhy does this fight have an unavoidable aoe one-shot. Like why. The only video I've seen of him dying is by a whale smacking him for 8k hp once he summons the uber wolves. Legit gonna quit for several months because of this shit. Literally the worst fight I've ever played against ever. I 100% FF XII fuck.
>>550543389you have to take in consideration that they will take more than 1 year to release the next abyss, if people clear A4 in 1 week they'll bleed playersi think it's fine so far, we just have to get lucky/wait for nerf and/or get more stats
>>550542968>>550543389Knight's defense+blocking+sacrificing one of your dudes to attack (+ the knight because they're most likely going to die too) seems like the only way if you don't have the hammers that remove the frozen status. It's an extremely cheap boss.
>>550543389I'm in the same boat.Everywhere I look, it is people bursting him for 3k+. I will have to live on floor 1 farming gear until I can do the same.
>>550543389Even whales are getting fucked anonhttps://youtu.be/WXejJ4IdjKo?t=10726I did see another JP streamer beat him but I think he just got lucky because the storm didn't kill his MC, or maybe it wasn't even used I don't remember. He used a shit ton of mahalito scrolls to deal with the wolves.
>>550542980not wild strike
>>550543389They REALLY want you to defmaxx. The problem is there are no good farm spots until after the wolf and who the fuck wants to farm subpar gear?
>I CAN'T INSTANTLY WIN WITH EBONSTEEL GEAR AT LV60? THIS GAME SUCKS!
>week before nyu nyabyss>lmao our gear is so cracked a4 will be a breeze wtf is drecum doing>week after nyu nyabyss>its wizover
The wolf is a magical beast. Sorry if this is too obvious, but has anyone tried just using the new beast-resist gloves from the flower cave and KD to push yourself into survivability?>>550543389I was a pessimist like you until I beat him 7 hours ago with based priest Gerulf >>550499093Now the game is fun again.>>550543965I overestimated how much accuracy she had. It is definitely just going to be heavy attack 1.
>>550544138It's not a problem with winning or not, it's a problem with a boss having a "fuck you, I win" move that requires you to remove a mechanic that you have pretty much no control over outside a once per week item.
>>550544269>once per week itemThe 3x hammer is always available from the potion seller.
the wolf boss is weak to fire, correct? should I assume the wolf element is "wind" then?
>>550544138>make a terribly designed boss fight>still suck drecum's dickThe only people I've seen beating him are whales or those who for whatever reason didn't eat a one-shot (maybe RNG). Worst designed fight in any JRPG I've ever played, by like a mile.
>>550544413Yeah... when you beat the wolf
Well that wolf fight is gonna be fucking rough for someone like me who doesn't use knights lol
wat
>>550544573I bought it before I even fought the wolf
>>550544150Still using my +20 Hunting gear just fine desu
>>550544491No, ice is untyped but still weak to fire.>>550544573He appears before the wolf.>>550544630Good buff but too niche to be useful.
>>550544573I think he meant the travelling merchant
>>550544413I've been running around the Abyss and have literally only seen him once. There is literally no reason why the shop shouldn't sell them. You literally can't interact with the freeze mechanic.
>>550544268>It is definitely just going to be heavy attack 1.I tried HA1 after using HA3 all of A3 and it actually lowered my dmg from just doing a regular auto by quite a bityou would probably see more value from having someone use katino and then having her hit the sleeper
>>550544710>No, ice is untyped but still weak to fire.thank you, how did you know it had its own element?
>seething about bossLet's talk about what's really important. The new move has introduced the tech for benis upskirt.
>>550544902benis shattering braps : - DDDDDDDDD
>>550544150They haven't increased the values for gear blessings so I don't see why people with +20 gear with perfect substats would give it up for 1* white silver stuff (unless they have pure evasion maxxed). Only weapons make sense to replace but you still need to get a bunch of dupes to level them up
>>550544791I'm doing this because Rinne is off on dispatch with my ebonsteel daggers. MC is honestly shit with kunai so far, I'll just give him the weeb sword instead.>>550544891Compendium. All the snow enemies are untyped.
>>550544268I didn't use beast-res stuff but that does actually sound like the dev intended progression path.It's like the end of a3 where they wanted you to open 10,000 chests in the ship to get 120 eva on everyone for the corruption guardians. Only this time you got to skip the multi-hundred hour grind if you abused an exploit.
>>550544591If it makes you feel better the wolf still one-shot my entire partu through Knight's defense.
>>550544902For me it's>>550469883
>Guarda releases>this is literally impossible for anyone except whales AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE>Abyss 4 releases>this is literally impossible for anyone except whales AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEWhy are you like this?
morgus please stop giving your superboss powers to some random wolves
>>550545384gamers
>>550545384a lot of these swos sat around lazily without prepping for winter they earned this failure.
Should I just sell all the ebonsteel swords and daggers I'm getting?Thinking of keeping the Maces of Tumult for Knight strats and 2H Axes
>>550545753And by "prepping for winter" we mean cheesing the bosses before the expoit got fixed
2 more hours until we see galCHAD or galBRICK
>>550545774Keep 4 double unified daggers so that you have fodder to enhance something for MC when he is on ninja.
>>550545890what does he say in English? something like "some damn disrespect!"? he is so fucking cool i love him
vmg by next year
>>550545853Yeah, just like how the Fighter Training ground boss was completely impossible without using the bug to phase through the boss!
Funny how it's always the second boss that is the most filtering.>Scorpion woman>Soul boat>Doll>This
>abyss 4 and onwards will require a knight or 2 from now onOnly based
>>550545753>fuck you I got minemost of you abyss 4 fags used fucking bugged shit before it got patched and progress.
>>550546060I’ll find out when I can roll him in 8k gemsOtherwise I die
>>550545947I already have 2 expulsion knives for my main ninja Reason I'm thinking of just scrapping all ebonsteel is because there's already hunting and expulsion gear that have similar stats while being more useful overall
>>550502664You can just CC Asha back to mageAlso Erwin is a fucking elf and is gonna have no HP, Asha has HP discipline and is a human, one of the tankiest mages in the game
>>550546109I don't know if it was impossible or not but it sure as hell was much easier for me cause I just had to walk and get my coins
>>550546496There's a chance that you find a good offhand ebonsteel dagger in A4. Then again, you could always farm another 26 copies if that happens.It is very hard to find silver gear that is better than ebonsteel at the moment. Just keep two double unified copies of everything and you won't have any regrets.
well i have a severe shortage of ebonsteel helmets and boots cause they didn't drop in the seperation cave, and half my team is in steel. Im happy to be getting so many 4* purple pieces now that's going to make me way tankier than much else could.
New>>550547220>>550547220>>550547220
Shiou my fucking MVP so far. Tanking Yeti's build up strike, consistently one shotting his kids and dealing 2k damage every turn.
Made it to 3rd floor of garda castle and turn a corner into a corruption sentry. Wtf There was nothing I could do to prevent it. No golems even in the area.
>>550547696Optional sidequest nearby lets you remove it.
>>550547834Thanks mate. I was legit about to start warping. This stretch of dungeon is not fun.
>>550547936By the time I managed to kill the doll, that final stretch ended up being pretty easy.
Was I supposed to do something before taking the harken out?>>550548339My team got fucked with back to spell binds that took mage and priest out.
