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Eothas did nothing wrong edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Thread Question
What would the favorite RPG be of the sadist that created this new captcha?
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bring back quaffing
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>>550458392
bruh the new captcha is probably the easiest one so far
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>>550458498
It was really annoying at first but after I actually realized how it works it's really fast to do
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>>550458392
why did they do her dirty like that?
We didn't see a body, so I was expecting some sort of grand reveal that she escaped and was only presumed dead by Minsc.

Also, she's got a voice that makes my heart melt.
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>>550456165
Aerie becomes gangsta af when you romance her.
>gives birth in the middle of fucking nowhere
>straps baby to her back
>says it's no big deal and she'll take care of it while we all continue murder hoboing
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he would eat baby
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This guy mating pressing Cassia.
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>>550458629
You reminded me of pic related.
Instead of these retards saying in the page of cernd's baby that the child looks similar to the baby aerie has with the gorion's ward, they only say this in the page with gorion's baby.
You can't tell me this wasn't on purpose.
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Rogue Trader question.

Question!
Im a few hours in, just did the quest to find the temple of the death cult and while doing it did the tour of the Freight line area.
When talking to the dude in charge i picked to give him some tools and fabric to improve that part of the ship from the cargo because im going for because im a softy faggot iconoclast.

My question is if i dont happen to have those cargo trophies ready and full i simply can't give them and i can never go back to that choice right? those points, that decision is gone?
So should i only sell a few of my cargo (i havent unlocked merchants yet) and always keep a couple cargo of each type for those kind of checks?
Ty ty
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>>550459042
But he’s my bro, and that’s what matters
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the necromancers ability of increasing overtime damage effects the higher the level they get seems to work on their summons stats effects not just their own spells.so you can just spam the lv 1 summon spider spell on enimes who dont have any aoe attacks and have it do a gazillion poison damage.
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>>550459173
> i simply can't give them and i can never go back to that choice right?
in most cases yea. unless there's an option to leave, you're forced to pick another option to continue.
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>group of martials rushing me
sorry but your getting spider spammed.
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>>550458392
not sure which is the most nothingburger of a setting, Eora (had to google the name) or Rivellon
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>>550459772
Summons are ridiculous in this game but they also seem like they all do the same fucking thing
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>>550459836
This is peak world building
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>>550459927
Calling a prison island Fort Joy will never not be funny
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>>550459594
So stands to reason to always keep maybe a couple of each cargo resource at the ready?
I still havent unlocked the merchants so maybe this is a moot point
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I quite like the gameplay of CRPGs (top down, 3d with real time pause/turn based, usually not grid based, different character abilities, etc.) is there any game that really encapsulates that type of gameplay well?
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>>550459927
>generic island-continents where each represents a faction
yawn
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>>550458392
tq: WotR because of its puzzles
as in they are not that hard but they are obnoxious to click on and solve
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>cant fight a martial CHAD one on one so he has to resort to using spiders like a BITCH
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>>550458498
technically yes but the fact that I have to click different places and can't do it completely on autopilot makes it worse
if you had all the images in one page and just had to pick one it would be way better
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>>550459085
So, what's your point? Aerie also had a baby with Cernd?
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>>550460194
nothing chad about rotting and being carrion food if you ask me
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>>550460183
>they are not that hard but they are obnoxious to click on and solve
and than suddenly the temple in Nenio's quests
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Dark Heresy should have a full voiced sex scene with Larry where he calls the femquisitor a filthy mon-keigh while fucking her, because even he is wise enough to know that nice Eldar finish last
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I mean what are you supposed to do if a wizard summons a ton of spiders?
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>>550460285
That if you just too a look at this wiki without much knowledge, you would think the one that wrote the trivia implies that both of the babies are Cernd's.
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>>550460106
>So stands to reason to always keep maybe a couple of each cargo resource at the ready?
Yeah this is a good idea. Various cargo related options often come up in planetary exploration and management. So keep a stack of each.
Speaking of cargo, grenades count as Mechanicus Creations which makes them very useful for building rep with the cogboys
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>>550460119
every game in the OP except Jade Empire and VTMB
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>>550460439
Oh right of course, I'm being retarded tonight.
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>>550460106
yep, you just need to mindful of the "sell all" option at merchants.
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>>550458392
I'm trying to enjoy WOTR but it feels that I'm doing something wrong. Maybe one of you can help me.

I'm playing a wizard and honestly? I'm buffing all the time, that its not a bad thing perse since I enjoy buffing and debuffing but.. I feel like I'm mostly using one or two spells all the time.

Of all of the spells that I have , it is either magic missile, haste / illusion buffs and the occassional ray to do damage.

The rest of my party? It is kinda the same, Camellia is basically either using the Evil Eye hex or the +1 on rolls. Nenio is applying the buffs that I'm atm not able to apply and that basically takes half of my party away. I'm legit spending most of my playtime buffing and debuffing. Are there other classes that deal with AC in a better way so that I can respec Camellia to that?

Having to also apply all these buffs is legit taking most of the fun away from the game but without them I mostly miss my hits. I have the usual feats of penetration, elemental focus, spell focus and so on. Yet sometimes it is not enough and I end up missing 40-50% of the hits. I'm taking now Drezen but I kinda feel done with the game.
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>>550460836
everything that you listed are common things we warn players about wotr
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>>550460473
Yeah i just saw that i could add all those weapons and shitty armors as cargo too
Keeping the "named" loot just in case
>>550460580
Okay, i will try to always keep some of the loot back. Just had to give some more cargo to quench a strike on another working segment.
Cant wait for that shit to bite me in the ass for being too lenient
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>>550460836
Strong level 1 arcane spells are: Grease, Sleep, Enlarge Person, Snowball
Strong level 2 arcane spells are: Glitterdust, Burning Arc, Scorching Ray
Strong level 3 arcane spells are: Haste, Fireball, Dispel, Stinking Cloud - actually a lot of level 3 spells are good.

At this point your hasted martials should be destroying everything with little support. You can boost your spells using rods etc when fighting powerful enemies.

Once you get level 6 spells you'll really start doing damage and your dispels will carry the day(especially with Goggles of Pure Sight).
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>>550460394
Larry should have multiple voiced sex scenes with femquisitor in each act
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>>550461339
>Keeping the "named" loot just in case
Good idea.
If you decide you want something back you can always retrieve it from cargo
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>>550460836
Respec and take the Paladin pill. Get a horse and smite demon filth. That's what I did after Drezen.
Or install this mod at least.
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/195
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>>550459085
Or maybe they're noting that they reused the art from the base game of cernd's baby for aerie's baby in tob you fucking schizo
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>not!arab trader race as a tent if non-stop wizard dules
dope.
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2.6k comment thread deleted by reddit mods because it was critical of larian
https://old.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/1pob4iv/swen_response_to_the_ai_interview/
really makes one think
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>>550458392
>Eothas did nothing
Fixed
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>larian in the big 2025
We have all moved onto solasta 2.
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>>550460836
Cam needs to be hyper minmaxed to be moderately useful as anything other than a hex bot.
If you want to focus on ray spells you want items and feats that boost your ranged touch attack rolls. If you don't have precise shot you're also probably taking a -4 penalty on all your ray rolls.
Spell focus also does nothing for damaging rays so you'd want weapon focus and improved crit instead.
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>>550458392
the new captcha is easy with keyboard, but I can see how it would be annoying if you're using a controller
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>only race is human
>no magic

Swordhaven is off to a bad start
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>>550458392
>What would the favorite RPG be of the sadist that created this new captcha?
Aww. Is "pick the odd one out" too hard for a simple mon-keigh?
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TQ: WoTR, specifically plays the game for the minigames and puzzles
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>>550463492
It must be fucking miserable being a crpg dev who wants to make anything other than a dnd game.
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>>550463659
Too bad they explicitly wanted to do a BG1 clone.
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>>550463659
Why make a fantasy game without fantasy stuff
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>>550460836
You should probably be playing on Normal. Core is possible without much pre-buffing but inexperienced players should be playing no Normal aka Baby mode.
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>>550463845
This is why despite this entire genre ripping off lord of the rings we'll never get an actually good lord of the rings game.
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>>550463492
I'm now interested in this game
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How autistic do you anons get in making sure your playthroughs are different?

For example, I replayed the ME trilogy this year (the first time was around 2012-2013) and I decided to really make sure I tried most of the outcomes without actively ruining my chances at surviving until the end. So I ended up making a spreadsheet tracking which major (and worthwhile) minor decisions I've made across the trilogy, as well as which order I did the missions.

Do you anons have something similar or am I just retarded for doing this?
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>>550459836
Rivellon is easily the worst of the lot. Despite having more than a half dozen games they have very little care for the setting. It's not even that it changes ever game in terms of topography. For most games they don't even bother to have named kingdoms. It's as blank as can be.
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>>550464429
I make the same choices every time
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Pirating Swordhaven rn. I'll report back once I've played for an hour.
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>>550460836
Most of the game can be handled by just throwing out bless and protection from evil. For the occasional boss you toss in something else. It sounds like you're not exploiting crowd control spells to trivialize most of the encounters.
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>>550458392
I fucking love this new captcha man. Just slide the bar and click the one that doesn't match.
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>>550465164
Oh yeah well what about when it's
>two balls
>one ball off to one side
>one ball off to the other side
>two big balls nearly touching
>four balls
What then, hotshot
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>>550465509
Four balls
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>>550465613
You used chatgpt. There's no way you did that yourself
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>>550465509
The first time I got it it was 2 balls 3 balls 2 balls, so obviously it's 3 balls.
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>Clair Obscur meets bg3
Will solasta 2 be game of the year?
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>>550463647
You could say the correct answer is immanent.
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>>550465509
>>550466125
Anons, it's the odd one out. You've got two pairs of two similar images (i.e the same number of objects, the same shape of objects) or in case of text, a set of four images that have something in common (i.e. they're all letters or they're upright or they have the same color) and you just pick the one that isn't following the pattern.
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>>550466406
I appreciate that reference
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Why did they let lizards aesthetically mog everyone else in dos2
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>>550466504
rhalic mogs every other god though
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>>550466482
But can you solve this puzzle?
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Will Esoteric Ebb be the true successor to disco elysium?
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>>550466802
Squares are weak to posion, triangle fire, crosses arcane, circle water, and the star requires you slot in a potion that used a cheese wheel as a base.
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What is Obsidians next game?
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Just got no way fag'd by a fish. It's over for my RT.
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>>550467230
Avowed 2: Return to Avowed Island
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>>550466802
yeah, they all go in the square hole
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>>550467230
Probably dogshit nobody cares about
Maybe grounded 3 it's already been a decade since they made their last crpg I think
Now it's just Skyrim clones for people too dumb even for Skyrim and shitty kid multiplayer slop
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I don't think I've seen a single person outside this general excited for Solasta 2.
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>>550460836
>Having to also apply all these buffs is legit taking most of the fun away from the game but without them I mostly miss my hits.
Download the buff mod, bro.
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>>550460836
Just tweak the settings to make the game easier
Wotr "difficulty" is just knowing an overpowered build and pre buffing even more. Theirs literally no shame in just playing on easier settings and skipping the horse shit
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>>550467230
>next game
You mean their next flop?
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>>550468427
This general is not excited for it either lol. It's going to come out like 2 anons are going to make a couple posts and that's that
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>>550464786
It's funny the other Anon posted the map of the world and I genuinely can not tell you where divine divinty is supposed to be like I played all of these games and I have no idea if this is fan made or real
The elves and dwarves were next to each other below the humans and the desert orc lands were to the southern right
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Me & /crpgg/ playing some roles
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So the first hour of Swordhaven is a pleasant immersive down to earth experience. I'd say its a medieval sim rather than a crpg as we know it.
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>>550468427
I will play anything as long as it's turn based dnd.
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>>550460836
>I'm playing a wizard and honestly? I'm buffing all the time, that its not a bad thing perse since I enjoy buffing and debuffing but.. I feel like I'm mostly using one or two spells all the time.
Yeah, that's what wizards do. They need to save spells and maybe throw 1 big control aoe per encounter.

>The rest of my party?
Martials auto attack and that's it. Cam/Nenio are full casters so they are in the same boat as you, throw a control aoe and that's it. Nenio can throw haste/invis.

>Having to also apply all these buffs is legit taking most of the fun away from the game
That's why you take enduring spells so you buff once per dungeon.

>Yet sometimes it is not enough and I end up missing 40-50% of the hits.
That is a common occurence, in fact hitting around 20% is the norm for higher difficulties. Only good builds can get around that.

>I'm taking now Drezen but I kinda feel done with the game.
A common drop off point. You need to enjoy build autism to beat Pathfinder games.
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>>550459173
Don't sell off all your cargo, it will be a common thing for quest to need some cargo from you.
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Owlcat could do the funniest shit right now by going on Social Media and going "Hey we're never going to use any AI for our games."
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>>550472413
Why would that be funny?
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>>550472413
they'd have to explain that expanse theme then
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>>550472413
Which would be a lie, every studio that says this lies
I assure you, everyone's codemonkey is consulting chatgpt at times, and most people have at least tried to generate images.
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>>550462531
Using photos of real people for chaarcter portraits will never not look retarded
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>>550463647
It's easy because the inquisition has tought me many things. I also hear that compared to the naval service it is barely a challenge
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>>550466498
Lol, retarded lanklet
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>>550466802
Of course https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dmohsez6fck
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>>550460394
>>550461494
this and this
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>>550467729
Nice shoulders, sis. Lmao.
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>>550459173
When you get merchants you'll only sell enough cargo to reach the next tier, and for a while profit factor will also be limiting. You'll always have some cargo available.
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>>550467729
Genuine question. I know you’re not a woman so what compels you to play as one in a 60+ hour role playing game?
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>>550477770
Maybe he's not a self-inserting faggot
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>>550477770
he probably wants to lesbian sex
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>>550467729
Just use toybox to make her into a gay fish. If I remember right there’s no point in her romance where she specifically pays attention to your gender. She’s just the arbitrary straight girl of the group like Valerie and Camellia before her.
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>>550478364
>arbitrary
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I won’t compromise my principles
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>>550477770
women play these though, how do you know anon isn't one?
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>>550478787
>women play these though
proofs?
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>>550478874
desu I've never seen any man play rogue trader, just saying
it's all women
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>>550478787
>that portrait
>trying to fuck cassia
>woman
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>>550460836
Yeah my Nenio is usually buffing, summoning and maybe lobbing some controlled fireballs, so many spells just run into resistance or immunity so I don't bother trying anymore. I like wizard types but for WotR I'd never try to play one, a spellcaster/melee attacker combo or oracle angel is more reliable.
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>>550477770
It's a roleplaying game. You build your character according to what kind of concept you have in mind and play him or her that way.
But you wouldn't know, because you don't roleplay, but self-insert.
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>>550478787
Women rarely use portraits that ugly
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>>550478787
The handful of women who actually play this make a beeline for Jimmy. People who play as women and are only interested in lesbian sex are males 99.9 percent of the time. Similar to how anybody that plays a male and goes for the homosex romances are generally women irl. TLDR it’s a fetish thing.
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>>550478874
do you think all the obsessing over marazhai, daeran, heinrix etc are guys and all the women who make fanart and fanfic are guys and all the women cosplaying are guys and...
spoiler, you've been talking to women here too
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>>550478874
A man wouldn't lust after jimmy
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>>550479235
>>550479131
fwiw I'm a woman who prefers Marazhai and would romance Cassia if she was available, I do use a better looking portrait though (the cute asian crime lord)
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>>550479235
This man of wo knows what's up
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How's Swordhaven? Probably going to buy it this weekend as long as ratings aren't a huge red flag by then
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>>550479559
slavjank with some soul
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>>550479559
Does it have any romance???
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>>550479813
Not everything made by slavs is automatically slavjank. The demo wasn't jank at all imo, are you saying the full game has some amounts of jank?
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>>550479863
go outside and have sex
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>>550480218
dogging might be illegal where he lives
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>>550479975
i only saw one graphical glitch, the actual gameplay and so on was fine. its heavy on roleplay with robust dialogue trees where skills and stats really matter. I have only played 1½ hours though.
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Dark Heresy alpha... Por favor...
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I JUST FUCKING WANT A NEW WAIFU TO BE REVEALED IN ALPHA
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>>550481350
You know they won't reveal any new party members. Maybe you'll get an npc waifu.
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>>550481350
you know you can go meet and kiss dollies in real life, right?
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>>550481350
kys
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>>550481350
New waifu is in act 3/4 because you meet her in commoragh
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>>550481525
Or even build/buy your own, and you can give them backstories and have them go on little dates

>>550481350
Come on, you know it's what you really want, just give into it, allow yourself the true dolly experience
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>>550481350
The real waifu were the herertics you've burnt along the way
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Why can’t you anons just settle for the black chick? You aren’t racist are you?
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I want to play Rogue Trader but I don't know shit about Warhammer. Can I start it in my current state of ignorance and bliss or should I watch an 8-hour video explaining the lore and setting first?
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>>550482680
I might, if she's romanceable and I like her personality.
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>>550482898
RT does better job at explainig lore from the position of generic human in the setting.
Main 40k lore is about good boi marines fighting evil spiky marines while bilions die in the background.
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>>550482898
Words with lore meaning are highlighted and by hovering the cursor over them there will be a brief explanation, but most things are easy to understand by context alone

If you REALLY want something obviously a short general video won't hurt while you download
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x7DdJ5DP_E
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The Imperium has never been the same since Guilliman fucked Yvrain's brains out
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>>550483208
Nice, thanks.
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You guys are going to have to wait for the waifu DLC. Base game Dark Heresy won’t have any.
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>>550482680
idira wasn't a romance option
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>>550483820
Holy fucking ruined
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>>550483607
>pc portrait smaller than companions portraits
unplayable
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>>550483820
and you will happily pay up
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>>550483820
I'm not a waifunigger, so I don't care lmao.
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>want to alpha test
>will be the 20th for 2 week holidays

shieeeeeeet are the alpha tests for certain periods of time?
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>>550463647
If only yrilet looked this beautiful in game
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>>550483607
You should have made an eldar girl and fucked Jimmy. Imagine the shame, self-hate and cognitive dissonance he'd feel
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>>550484725
No you just get the alpha if you paid, until the beta comes out at least.
And if you didn't pay, you get the torrent and play anyway

If you actually want to report bugs and stuff I have no idea how they handle it.
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>>550485093
>you get the torrent and play anyway
me me
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HUSH NOW MON'KEIGH NO NEED TO THANK ME WITH YOUR PRIMITIVE RITUALS
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>playing as a woman
>playing as a wizard
>romancing non-virgins
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>>550485093
>paying money to alpha test
People really are retarded
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>>550485446
no dummy if you paypig you support owlcat and they can make more w40kslop
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>>550485446
You get the game at launch, you are paying the same as if you bought the game when it came out
>But why would I want the alpha
Some people have fun fucking around in the early builds of a game they want
We will get mileage out of it in these threads as we always have. RT alpha was a good time on /v/
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dolly smooching should result in pregnancy
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>>550481350
It'll be a Daemonhost that 80 hours in will reveal the demon in question is a dude and nobody will survive the discourse around it.
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>>550481350
you will get her but she will cuckold you
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>>550486239
based total waifufag death
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>>550485745
I too am getting the game at launch and I haven't paid a penny
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a swarm of bugs killed me in swordhaven
i alt-f4
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>>550486002
It does in the Expedition games. Someone posted it a thread or two ago. The Iconokek route for Kibbles results in a baby, but only if you play as a male. And I think they updated Arue’s ending to include children too.
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>>550486002
femcels hate those though
no one wants jimmy's baby, just jimmy
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>>550486461
The classic fangberry for bokken blunder
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>>550486662
silence you rancid whore
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>>550485446
I support the devs I like because I'm not poor.
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>>550486239
demons don't have sexes, silly
they're tranny-coded, Korn in particular
btw Biokek wanted to do a demon waifu+husbando in one, but they cucked out.
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>>550486662
Wrong. 20 new primarchs from Jimmy is what I'm getting
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>>550485745
>RT alpha was a good time on /v/
You should go back
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>>550487249
>Early Taash was like that
>we got picrel
WHY BIOWARE
FUCKING WHY
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>>550487590
Ikr? I was looking at that concept art like "What the fuck, Taash was cool at one point?"
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>>550487590
that ugly creature perfectly encapsulate our fallen state
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>>550487590
She was too pretty, and trannoids are waging a war on beauty
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>>550487590
I think this is just an issue with Qunari starting in Inquisition where amusingly they tried to "humanise" them. They try so fucking hard to make them look like regular people. I remember being so weirded out making a male Qun and the face is just like some regular guy. I personally prefer the DA2 one.
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>>550486662
You know nothing
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>>550487249
Wait we could’ve gotten a demon gf with a fat ass? What the fuck is wrong with BioWare?
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>>550481350
>he buys a game with the vague hope that a half-baked waifu will be revealed sometime later in the game
Are owlbabs this pathetic?
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>>550487590
that thing's writer trooned-out and changed their name during veilguard's development
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>>550488101
A tranny was the director of the game and nobody hates attractive women more than trannies. To add on to that Patrick Weekes the main writer had a midlife crisis and turned into 300 pound blue haired tumblr clown. So it doesn’t matter how good the concepts were, the game was always doomed to fail with these freaks in charge.
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You have 1 minute to convince me to play a role other than John Skyrim.
Protip: You can't.
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>>550482898
I knew only the very basics and was fine, it explains everything you need as you go.
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>>550488748
your forced meme will never be funny
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>>550487590
what the FUCK is that thing?
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>>550488748
I play skyrim but not always as John Skyrim the dovahkin

My playtrough for this winter
>Permadeath
>High difficulty
>Only melee allowed
>Abduction mod to force bandits to become my soldiers
>CHIM AI mod to have them speak as such
>Goal is to conquer every hold, fort and bandit camp
>Max 10 followers when assaulting a place (permadeath for all bandit followers too)
>When conquered edit the prompt in CHIM so npcs treat me as the warlord ruling said hold
>Game ends when I conquered everything and Elisif has become my onahole
I will complete 0 quests or questlines, it will all be a sandbox larp powered by AI
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>>550489208
>what the FUCK is that thing?
A non binary
Horrible creatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_h1UO7ZcH8
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So I'm getting close to the end of my WotR playthrough and I just solved the fucking liquid bottle puzzle. Spent a lot of time trying to figure out wtf it was even supposed to be and considering math shit, then finally based on all of Owlcat's previous puzzles assumed the simplest, dumbest way of interpreting it while ignoring half the tiles on the board and then it was pretty easy. (thanks Owlcat for wasting my time with the things that make you think of fractions on the bottom that don't actually mean anything like that)
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>>550487590
Reminder what they too from us. We could’ve gotten a big booty dragon hunting qunari gf. Instead we got La Creatura.
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>>550489510
trash is like 20 and the most horny/seuxalized I find that funny
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>>550490012
The absence of an answer is an answer too ;)
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>>550488748
I don't care what you do, tranny
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>>550490083
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sex with eldar
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>>550490083
>been asking for a girl qunari since da2
>was really happy once I saw the concept art you posted online
>Then the trailer dropped and she was trash
How are devs susprised when their trash flops?
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Is Spell Combat even worth it in Wrath for a Magus? I played a Magus in Kingmaker and it was fun, especially landing those crits with shocking grasp. But in Wrath everything has immunities and spell resistances out the ass.
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>>550490838
Wasn't there a female Qunari in that animated show? She looked fine.
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>>550490874
doesn't feel like it to me, I just use the spells slots for haste/mirror image/concealment/greater invis
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>>550490453
She’s also clearly written as a giga dyke and the game actually has to go out of its way to explain that she only makes an exception for the male player character.
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>>550491317
>She’s also clearly written as a giga dyke and the game actually has to go out of its way to explain that she only makes an exception for the male player character
As a concept this is actually great and hot as fuck. And if they actually made her hot and not a millennial it would have worked while also being technically woke.
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>>550493528
Yeah it wasn’t done intentionally especially given the writer, but as an unintended consequence now you have this plot line of dicking the world’s biggest bulldyke. Would’ve been kino if that thing was even remotely attractive.
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>>550490874
>But in Wrath everything has immunities and spell resistances out the ass
you're fighting demons brosis
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>>550482898
Emperor good
Chaos bad
Aliens bad
Mutants not bad (but be racist against them anyway because they defile the human form)
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>>550490453
its really not, this is common in trans because theyre not actually body dysphoric, theyre fetishists derived from drag culture, which is predicated on the degradation of women
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>>550494767
not crpg
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>My favorite D&D class? Why, the Wizard of course!!!!
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>>550490874
The fatigue strike is still +1 attack for free.

Problem with touch spells is that there are no good ones after grasp and before hellfire ray. And hellfire is a ranged attack.
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All this fucking wizardphobia is NOT OK
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what luck!
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for me its the females in the back using slings
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sorcerers are cuter
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>>550490874
>everything has immunities and spell resistances out the ass.
You probably haven't gotten a Mythic level yet then, there is an option for completely ignoring resistance or immunity to some element (or sonic or negative).
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Do you have to do the Freight Line in Act 1 or can you wait until you get Yrliet?
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Will we be able to smooch her?
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>>550497082
No
Alcon Entertainment won't allow it or something
At least that's the usual excuse
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>>550497220
She's already confirmed as romancable
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I'm taking that anon's bait/advice and getting some actual dollies
Then no one can tell me who they can or cannot smooch
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>>550497383
confirmed where
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>>550497509
confirmed whore?
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>>550497509
in his head along with her being a tradwife with a child ending
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I love owlcat, and am looking forward to Dark Heresy and the future Rogue Trader dlc.

I love Larian, and am looking forward to Divinity.

Feels good to have multiple good developers working on awesome looking games at the same time. The Dark Heresy alpha may even start as early as tomorrow? Even better.
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>>550497668
>>550497682
https://x.com/TheExpanseRPG/status/1973825815755567394
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>>550498232
all that confirms is her name

the game might not have romance sidequests at all
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>>550498232
Wait, I'm retarded, this is just her name reveal.
My bad.
REMANCE UNCONFIRMED.
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>>550495821
Is Luck still an all or nothing affair like in ATOM?
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>>550498027
indeed, it is most splendid that developers of CRPGs i enjoyed are continuing to make content i am exited for and that over the course of the new year more CRPGs may get announced or released
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>>550498027
This. Wish there was a third studio so we'd have a big 3 but unfortunately the rest either look too low budget or kinda mid (Solasta 2). I liked Wasteland 3 but inXile is too inconsistent.
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>>550497082
not crpg
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>>550499319
>Owlcat role-playing general
Read the OP next time
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>>550499319
define crpg
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>>550499448
the expanse will be a shitty action slop 3rd person shooter
not a crpg
mass effect is not listed for this exact reason
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>>550499543
"It's obvious if you're not autistic"

The Expanse is not a CRPG.
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>>550463647
>3 images of black dots
>I'm supposed to pick the odd one out
????
this gay ass new captcha is the reason I have to spend 5 minutes for each post
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>>550463647
Cute Yrliet... really wish she was romanceable in the game...
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what larian did to get journos to smear them?
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>>550501392
Don't look at those journos and who they're tied to.
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>>550501392
the journos are throwing Swen softball questions, the criticism came from twitter and reddit my guy
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>>550501392
Larian used AI, which is like, fascism and literally hitler and stuff
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>>550501392
He called the gaming industry and publishers greedy leeches. They want him dead. AI is just the excuse they're running with.
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>>550502048
you don't think using AI like the big corpos is hypocritical after calling others greedy?
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just saw an owlcat ad for DH, it reeked of desperation.
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>>550502179
Yes, because that's the only problem with big corpos.
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>>550502590
greed is probably #1 you know
nobody uses AI for the love of the game, they do it because it can save a buck
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Do chainswords count as "swords" for Bladedancer stuff?
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>>550501069
ask your caseworker for help
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i hope divinity has some of dragon commander's edge
>order the general from the matriarchal society to stop prosecuting my rape-happy soldiers
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why did owlcats do it? why no smoochables in dark heresy? why why WHYYYY
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>>550504369
someone post the vocaroo
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>>550504369
WE are all romancing Epione as mishulin intended.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbKA3iGfqs
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>>550504179
It came out too early
>Dwarves trying to push for cigarettes in schools
>The topic of scholarships being a thing where the Dwarves are against it since lazy people will get it
>Elves are hypocrites
Would've been an absolute meme generator
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>>550502846
yea, even the xenos and force swords.
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>>550504464
gross
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>practical incarnation's alignment is lawful neutral
wtf
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>>550468304
>>550475682
Lmao
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>>550501513
schreier is already backpedaling lmao
>>550501887
>>550502048
while I don't like how AI is being pushed by techbros with the "IT WILL LITERALLY BE HELIOS FROM DEUS EX GUYS" bs.
it is a disruptive technology that is here is to stay. as long you have talented people using AI assistant to make people WORK LESS since agents are helpful to trim the fat and cut to the key parts of the projects, I don't see a problem with it.
game journos are way too uppity lately
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>>550481350
You have to romance Larry, seemingly gay, only to discover "he's" a female
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>>550505028
he would do good things without hesitation if it was the most expedient option
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The skill checks are imbalanced as fuck. If you don't use Jae or Pasqal you are fucked.
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>>550505505
isn't practicality over morals the definition of evil?
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>>550505718
yes and that's why dnd alignment is dumb. that explanation makes sense within the setting though
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>>550502846
But knives don't, and certain xenoblades are knives without being clearly named as such
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>isn't practicality over morals the definition of evil?
Uh oh the utilitarian cucks are getting mad at the greater good CHADS again.
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>>550505480
let me guess you are going to do this and get mad when he's still a man.
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>>550505907
Yeah I noticed that. For some reason the life sacrificing knife you get from Kibellah's quest doesn't work for Kibellah lol. Does any build ever want to use a knife? You'd think it'd be for Bladedancers.
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>>550506079
yeah but practical incarnation didn't do anything for the greater good, his motivations were selfish and about uncovering his past
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>>550505627
You can get 100+ skill on basically anyone with gear and traits, there's also the reroll. I had Yrliet and Argenta as tech bots.
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>>550506093
Nah Mishulin wouldn't deceive me like that. I know how he thinks.
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>>550506250
100+ doesn't mean squat with how RT does its skill checks though.
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Dark Heresy, a game no one asked for
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I just hope that Owlkek placates the elf fags with a Eldar waifu that puts out in Dark Heresy, because if Larry fucks the female MC we'll never hear tthe end of it
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>>550506698
>40k meets disco elysium
WE all asked for this.
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>>550506756
>Eldar waifu that puts out in Dark Heresy
no they deserve nothing
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I'm sure I'll enjoy Dark Heresy but I would like Owlcat to make another Pathfinder game. Except whatever the side management part is should be either good or minimally required.
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>>550505320
Because anyone who knows how corpos operate knows that's not at all what it's going to be limited to.
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>>550506756
I'd love a real fem Eldar romance option, shame how Yrliet turned out, but some of the people who seethe about the percieved double standard are too schizo and just ensured no one will take the discussion seriously.
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>>550506979
You cheated not only the game but yourself.
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a crpg where you're Santa Claus but instead of delivering presents you deliver sexual assault, humilitation, and violence as a home intruder
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>>550505320
>as long as I accept the PR version of what is presented to me, the company has done nothing wrong :)
haha yup Larian would never they're one of the good guys
unless...? haha jk they're just using it for inconsequential stuff and besides they still have to use their 73 artists for something real
unless...?
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Pyromancer is so insanely fucking broken. The only downside is killing your teammates in the inferno.
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woman exists to serve man, not to judge him
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>woman exists to serve man, not to judge him
I can smell the hands that typed this
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woman are literally designed to take semen
don't take them seriously
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>>550508947
>>550509115
not crpg
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>>550509024
serve men, don't judge them
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Please serve men. I'd like mine to be medium-rare.
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>>550509201
I'm roleplaying an enchantment wizard
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>Please serve men. I'd like mine to be medium-rare.
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>>550509348
Cam...
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>>550479389
Do it, I made a dude RT and romanced fishwife she is very cute but she cucked me in the end
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camcam puts part of men into her mouth!
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>>550507231
Pretty sure GW said no. Like let's be real the Marazhai heretic ending slides pull was more than likely also them, they do that sort of shit.
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>>550509696
cammie eats men
fellow brazilians will understand
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>>550509810
What was the heretical ending for him anyway?
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>>550510091
He kept returning to the RT despite the existential risk. Really tame shit. Don't get why they pulled it esp since it's Tzeench that corrupts the RT, not Slaanesh
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>>550507820
are you retarded? do you think that the small business across the planet that have been using LLM to help them drop the work load, want to kill you or something?
you faggots in the fight to sound morality right are losing track with the common worker. and only pass as insufferable
are the small business who started to use open source LLMs that run locally also part of this conspiration to kill every artfag on the block too?
you are unironically mentally ill
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>>550510719
not sure what you're talking about but you're arguing against a strawman
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>>550510719
>self centered champagne socialists are losing track with the common worker.
They never were on track with the common worker in the first place. They despise the common worker, and ironically have no idea what socialism is about. And no, it's not about tranny rights.
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>>550507231
Yrliet would have been much better without the absurd no touch rule which is not canonical at all
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>>550511229
She is not like other eldar women wich us why she is special
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>>550510281
>i don't get an eldar being bff with a demon is not canon
Try using your brain next time. It's hard but you can do it! I believe in you, anon.
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Can Yrliet get pregnant by a human?
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>>550510719
>you don't like this? well what about this rant about random other shit
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dh will come out and you will still be talking about yrliet
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If you romanced any of the RT girls that says alot about you (and its all bad)
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>>550511776
hueldars are not canon anymore
maybe in a few years, if/when GW sales drop
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Games where you romance black women? I need to prepare for DH.
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>>550510836
It's hilarious because whenever someone makes a facetious post about AI use you can always count on an AI proponent to miss the memo entirely and act like his personal honure was impuned. And it's usually followed by a /pol/tard sycophant pushing his agenda as it was here. It's more reliable than the fucking sun rising every day.
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>>550512015
The black dollies are never romanceable in owlcat games.
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>>550512336
Idira should have been romanceable. Unsanctioned Psyker romance would've made for good drama.
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If you romanced any of the RT boys that says a lot about you (and its all bad)
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>>550510281
>it's Tzeench that corrupts the RT, not Slaanesh
It's all the same shit to Eldar
They say "she who thirsts" for all chaos
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>>550512015
Mask of the betrayer.
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The vast number of posts in this general are about virtual dollies smooching.
I feel like it wasn't always quite this bad, but maybe it was.
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>>550512596
Black dollies and pajeetas are cute thoughbeitly
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>>550511947
what about the rt boys?
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Do you change your party from time to time or do you decide on your group and then stick with them for the entire campaign?
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>>550512670
The Red Wizard chick? She’s pale as fuck.
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>>550513421
Unfortunately the way most of these games are designed you have like one flex slot that is still limited by the class you play as. So yeah I usually bring the same 4 companions and then rotate through the 5th as I can.
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>>550513013
Sudanese kweens are cute.
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>>550511935
the only way to escape that is for an even worse humiliation ritual in dh
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>>550513421
I tend to rotate a bit but have favorites I nearly always bring depending on who I think my PC would value, it changes depending on if I'm doing good or evil etc
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>>550513796
They have a high chance of having been infibulated in their youth though.
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>>550512596
>only surpassed by pajeets.

Indians get far more positive representation than you think
there are plenty of indian characters in video games that people don't think twice about
for example
normies loved Parvati even though
her personal quest is you literally being her third wheel
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>>550514204
was it deleted for racism
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>>550513796
Pic unrelated
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>>550514301
yeah
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Isn’t Jae a pajeeta?
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>>550514426
She's a gypsy
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>>550514426
explains the necron face
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>>550514426
persian
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There was nothing even racist in that post. Unless “pajeet” is a slur now?
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>>550514426
More like Iranian/generic middle eastern.
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>>550514204
Outer Worlds has no romance right? Lost interest when I heard you couldn't smooch anyone.
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>>550514598
Unf
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>>550514693
of course
it has no romance
infact obsidian were very proud of that fact
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Make a custom party in your next CRPG playthrough.
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Based janny. We love our queens here. Epione canon dolly btw.
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>>550514693
No romances and the devs were proud about it.
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>>550513421
if it seems early on that I'll be playing through multiple times then I'll go full RP and probably not even let anyone hang around benched, only my active party.
First playthrough is typically goodie-goodie and not veering too far off track, second is more wild and ideally with mostly different companions, unless there are some that I'd like to see with the evil/retard choices.
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>>550514597
yes it's been a slur since 2016
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>>550514962
Ha, that's how I do things too.
First playthrough is good and second playthrough is evil, making sure to use the companions that I missed the first time round.
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>>550515174
Nah. That post got canned for insulting our black queens. Indians and sea get shit smeared all over and nothing happens.
Latinos don't care unless you insult DBZ
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>>550515174
it's really just about reporting it, they're not out prowling for content to delete/ban.
I personally love reporting for racism because you just know the retard will rage about it, I think jannies must find it funny too because they tend to be the more consistently reports acted on.
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>>550515174
I got warned for calling some annoying fag brown here
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>>550515438
hello janny
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>>550515174
They prefer latinx btw.
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under rail alpha when?
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>>550512015
the only one that comes to mind is Vette, she is black-coded
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I meant under rail infusion
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>>550515920
Nah that was Big Z.
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>>550512015
samantha traynor from ME3
though i am not completely sure if she is actually black
and I think you can romance the black girl in vampire the masquerade swansong
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>>550516362
I think shes Indian
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>>550512015
I with the top bitch Vivienne in Inquisition was romanceable
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owlcat is from ruzzia right?
and the guy who wrote those metro novels is also ruzzian right?
so it should be pretty easy for them in theory to get the rights to make a metro game rather than waste time and money searching for western IPs
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Sorry, I lose social score if I interact with Russians.
Stick to playing Western CRPGs.
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>>550516545
romancing black women is one thing, but romancing baldies? Ewwww
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>>550516742
He's been declared a criminal in Russia, it's not happening.
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>>550512015
fable
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>>550517208
What happened?
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A metro crpg wouldn't be good. Imagine reloading just because you missed an attack and wasted bullets.
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>>550514426
She both sounds and looks Persian/Levantine, and uses words that fit those languages
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>>550517357
I reload every time I fail a dc check
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>>550517357
I would rather play a metro RPG/CRPG than expanse shit
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Outdoor adventures are good for skin and body shape but they just RUIN the hair!!!!
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>>550517353
The war happened and he took the Ukr side and fled the country.
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>2025
>just got a kickstarter update about owlcat shipping out the last physical rewards from wotr
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>>550517504
I agree
from a world building/lore perspective metro is far better
expanse and it's protomeme is just such a let down
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>>550517480
This annoys me about crpgs. Why even have checks in a game if you're just going to reload until you cheese the optimal result?
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>>550518210
iron man runs
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>>550516920
you know her being bald is pretty realistic right?
black women use wigs mostly
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>>550518306
But the need to even have iron man as the fix proves the flaw.
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I am surprised greed fall 2 isn't cancelled yet
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>>550512015
sawyer won't let you romance pallegina or any of the valians for some odd reason
what did he mean by this ?
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>>550518210
Wasteland dd it well. Can't really savescum in that
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>>550506756
nah
they'll never be happy anyway so who cares
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>>550509810
>they actually deleted this stupid shit that made no sense
holy based, haven't played since before the dlcs so I didn't know
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>>550518767
They can't consent because they're fictional characters
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>>550519064
sex sells
why do you think nobody played colonshit or sword haven?
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>>550519509
rt sold without yrliet sex, explain that?
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>>550517604
that was always silly, they would ruin your skin at least as much as your hair
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>>550518210
The problem is having it be "Succeed = good, Fail = bad" when it should be "Succeed = set of consequences A, Fail = set of consequences B"
Disco Elysium made failing interesting. I never felt the need to savescum because if I didn't succeed at what I attempted, it was almost always at least an interesting result.

CRPG devs are largely too stupid/lazy for this level of finesse though. So we get for every check, two possibiltiies: The Good, and Missing Out.
This is why people reload, there's no DM to say "As you fumble your lockpick, you hear a voice behind the door: There's someone already in there." or whatever
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>>550513421
I'll usually end up with a favorite party or a group slightly bigger than the party size that I stick to.
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>>550519784
that was a bait and switch
nobody expected her romance to be so asexual
that's why yrilkeks are still either seething or deranged
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>>550518210
Save scumming is a choice, just choose not to do it.
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>>550520207
>I never felt the need to savescum because if I didn't succeed at what I attempted, it was almost always at least an interesting result.
Do you think there might possibly be an issue in a system where you can't really fail or only fail in name?
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>>550513421
I change according to the mission/quest
purely for RP purposes
for example i keep rotating squamates in PoE for every major storyline quest
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>>550513421
I change the party up if it's narratively appropriate
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>>550513796
not crpg
if that guy can't post camellia's voice actress you shouldn't be allowed to post irrelevant real life people
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>>550506791
DH being heavily inspired by Disco Elysium is not a good thing

Disco Elysium is VERY linear in it's ending
so if DH follows that game design
It would kill replayability factor
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>>550521031
Its seems likes its very easily possible to make a disco elysium like with multiple endings
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>>550520580
No because it produces an interesting result regardless.
If you fail a check in wrath you miss out on something. If you fail a check in DE you get the cock carousel.
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>>550519784
The first meditation was somewhat sexy so Yrlitards expected more to come
No refunds, as we say in Cyrpus
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>>550521189
So you either win the good boy prize or the consolation prize that's still interesting enough not to feel like you missed out? Then where is the tension in rolling in the first place? You win either way. No player left behind, only winners.
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>>550521159
none of that matters if you already know how the game is going to end
so why would anyone spend time with the whole investigation mechanics from the second play through?
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>>550521031
I played DE a few times because of all the different ways the interactions can go down. I also played ME1 and 2 dozens of times despite the end being the effectively same.
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>>550521553
you can't compare mass effect with DE
Mass Effect even the very first game is very cinematic
DE gives you to impression that it's a very complex detective RPG where choices matter
but they don't in the end

DE is very similar to a telltale game than mass effect
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>>550521545
Just make the game have different endings depending on who you think is guilty
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>>550520968
>that guy
wdym, your aerial silk ads were not deleted
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>>550521545
>multiple endings
>you already know how the game is going to end
>multiple endings
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>>550521973
ME 3 had "multiple endings" too remember?
yeah that's what you're getting
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>comparing owlGODS to some biodrones shit.
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>>550521884
>muh cinema
Retard
>you can't compare them
I just did, try again retard.
>>550522170
No it had one ending, the star child. Saying it had multiple endings is marketing speak like how you are millions of people because your dad came millions of sperm into your mom.
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Real choice doesn't exist in any rpg that isn't short as fuck. It's only about how well they make you feel like your choice matters.
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>>550522593
yea
I was being sarcastic retard
when i said mass effect 3 had "multiple endings"
you're basically getting the same from DH
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>>550522593
Mass Effect IS cinematic
so much so that it LITERALLY had a cinematic gameplay mode for Mass Effect 3
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>>550523229
I didn't play through ME3 multiple times because the ending was shit, not because I knew what was going to happen. I played through the first two dozens of times. Try harder retard.
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>>550522235
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>>550521494
Nobody's saying "everyone has to win all the time" you fucking retard. Just that people wouldn't reload so much if outcomes weren't so flat and binary.

>where is the tension in rolling in the first place?
From the RP of your character and what you would have them go for. "Failing" could have you much later ending up teamed up with some bandits instead of fighting them, or fighting them instead of teaming up with them. Or one of them permanently joining you. Like there are a billion possibilities that are more interesting than "You rolled the good number you get the prize / you didn't and nothing happens"
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>all this sudden disco elysium and mass effect posting
I know what you are
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>>550518210
they need to remove quicksaving from CRPGs unironically, only save when you return to your voidship/capital/stronghold etc
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If they have to add a minority companion in every game they should make it a hot Asian chick instead of a sassy middle aged black lady.
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>>550524327
>Nobody's saying "everyone has to win all the time" you fucking retard.
That's what you described. "Interesting failure" is code for consolation success. The logical extreme of "failing forward" is a movie-game where none of your successes and failures ultimately mattered. Where did you get the idea this was preferable? Who the fuck wants to replay Disco Elysium?
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>>550523503
you replayed ME 1 and 2 because you liked it retard and it doesn't matter how many times you replay it
none of the endings will ever change
ME 1 ALWAYS ends with sovereign being blown up and ME 2 ALWAYS ends with you completing the suicide mission
everything else is ultimately doesn't matter
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>>550521031
>DH being heavily inspired by Disco Elysium
Lol, lmao. Are you actually retarded? Just because it's using the same kind opf vertical interface doesn't mean it's inspired by DE. Shadowrun games also had vertical interface and it predates DE by a god decade. Not to mention that it takes a lot more than just shallow visuals to say it's "inspired" by DE
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>>550525150
If they really want to go brown they should take inspiration from Expeditions Rome
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Mass Effect does have multiple endings. 5 to be exact, with one additional modifier for one of them that depends on your game state. They all have their own cutscene and epilogue, and they all imply something very different for the future of the galaxy.
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>>550506791
I ask for this, but DH is not that
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>>550525042
That'd be so shit unless they also provide good autosaves and carefully curate fights to work with autosave.
They'd also need to curate itemization because if there's [item I'm counting on for my build] that I need to pass a check for and I fail it that's worthy of a reload even if it's been like an hour.
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>>550525150
We had thicc Bellara and you chuds rejected her.
>the game was shit
not an argument
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>>550525247
I didn't say it retard
see
>>550506791

I was replying why basing DH on DE is a dog shit idea
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>>550525237
>you replayed ME 1 and 2 because you liked it retard
Yes retard that's literally what everyone is saying. It doesn't matter if the ending is the same or not if the game is enjoyable and the ending doesn't suck balls people will play through and engage with the game multiple times.
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>item I'm counting on for my build
soulless player whose opinion should not be considered
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I understand not liking the companions revealed, but I cannot understand hating the concept of DH
Being an inquisition agent investigating heresy (which obviously ends in a scuffle because it's 40k) sounds rad
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>>550525337
Nobody cares because it invalidates everything leading up to that point and will be endlessly retconned for the sequel.
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>>550525419
you dont need every item
you dont need your min-maxed wiki build
you dont need to pass every check
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>>550525690
Yes I agree pathfinder esque games are badly designed as they reinforce all of these lazy practices. Now are you going to jump over the fence because I agreed with you?
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>>550525656
Nobody wants to replay a "CRPG" and waste 40-60 hoursof their time only to get a linear binary either or ending
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>>550525705
I think it just sounds a bit limiting. You'll be stuck in a grimy gothic city.
In Rogue Trader at least you got outdoors a bit.
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>>550525705
not a dating sim. me mad
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>>550526089
>you don't need to pass every check
>fail a check
>companion I like locked into a bad ending because of it
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>>550526247
An hive world is not 100% city
There are areas around, where the kroot probably live
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>>550526414
>the dolly got the bad ending
Ooohh no how will you ever recover.
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I failed bg3 honor mode 3 times now and literally all 3 times because it was a trap one shot like 3 party members exploding to the Trading mercs or powerful neutral town AI fucked up and aggro'd me at what feels like random like i was breaking the wall to get the one guy out of the act 2 prison and suddenly every guard 3 levels higher than me a mile away knew what i was doing and aggro'd
fuck that dogshit game
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>>550525337
Casey, we know it's you
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>>550527129
Nta but that's kind of shit design
Yes, stories are better when the conclusion feels deserved or at least logically consistent with the events in it

I don't know what kind of argument you could be making against this concept
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>>550518163
>Gnome
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>>550527275
Contrarianism.
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>>550520207
I feel like succeed/fail could work better if a game gave you degrees of failure, passing the check is the best outcome, failing it by a point or two will still give you a positive outcome with a minor to major drawback depending on the severity of the situation, failing it by more than a couple means you have to expend some resource if you want a positive outcome or some sort of silver lining second check, like failing a perception check for a trap but making a successful atheletics one when you fall in it to grab the edges of the pit or find a foothold on a protruding crevice. and then crit fails would still be crit fails
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>>550527275
How is you failing something so something bad happens to someone illogical?
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>>550521494
Sounds like an idea for dnd 6 edition.
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>>550527416
I wouldn't fail in real life
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2 are the artist's oc I think but would you love Cassia like this?
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>>550527416
Because it removes agency from the player.
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>>550527416
>How is you failing something
If it hinges on many rolls its one thing
If it's one singular roll, and that singular roll is completely indipendent of any decision I made, not only does it feel not satisfying but it's not that good roleplay either because it destroy the interactive element

Imagine a dnd campaign where REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PLAYERS DID the final battle is going to be decided by a singular roll NO MATTER WHAT
It's shit
The final battle can be decided by the roll... as the result of some bad decisions the players took. But if it's the only factor the DM should be beaten to death with clubs.
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>>550527573
>the player should never fail and always win
Why do you play crpgs?
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>>550527416
>build a charisma let in kingmaker so I can increase my combat stats
>"I'll just use the bard companion to pass charisma related checks"
>most of the game's charimsa checks will use the PC's score specifically
>including stuff like the ONE CHANCE CHARISMA CHECK to get ekundayo to open up otherwise he's destined to be le edgy monster destroyer for forever
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>>550527565
Is second from left kibbles?
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>>550527651
Strawman
Nobody argued rolls should never affect results, just that they should not be the one and only thing, especially when its a single perception roll.
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>>550527747
>>550527789
>the game should give me multiple chances to not fail so I eventually always end up winning
Why do you even play crpgs?
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>>550527875
Whatever man
Nice bait
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>>550527745
Ok nvm they're oc
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When i fail and dont get chances to try again and eventually get it that ruins my dopamine spike so it shouldn't exist in crpgs.
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>>550527565
Who's the guy on the right?
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>>550527741
Leaving him as edgy monster destroyer for forever is based thoughbeit.
He is required to put that +5 point-buy points he has in his stats to at least some use
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>>550527741
>oooh no i didn't get the good end for my dolly this is bad game design
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>>550528228
looks like your vox officer
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>>550528228
OC, same as second left
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>>550528228
Another OC or montag
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>>550528237
It's retarded that he either goes Total Troll Death, or stops hunting altogether. Why can't he be both? Also he a great spy master
> foreign spies causing trouble? Just bomb their CIA
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>>550528228
>>550528365
ah shit i mixed up my left and right
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>>550527565
>vigdis
>OC
>Abelard
>Cassia
>Heinrix
>Pasqal
>Argenta
>OC
Too ugly for my liking
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>>550528391
>>550528389
WHy does he have 2 ocs?
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Pasqual x Idira.
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>>550528579
people like to make their own dollies
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>>550527789
>failing a important roll at an important moment shouldn't have major effects on the game
Why do you even play crpgs?
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>>550528579
Are you only allowed one?
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>>550528828
Yes
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>>550528776
>shouldn't have major effects
It shouldn't be the only factor >>550527647
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Swen
>known lizard fucker
>no lizard girl companion in DOS2 or BG3
Todd
>known kat fucker
>no marriable khajiit companion in Skyrim
Why are they like this?
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>>550529762
would your pathetic life really be so different if the games had those?
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>>550529762
execs are usually very selfish people
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>>550529662
why not? Sometimes you fail a check and an important npc dies, what's wrong with that?
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Should I play RT? Is it erotic? I’ve been horny lately
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Finally decided to do a shotgun build in RT. Holy fuck it's fun.
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>>550528579
>He has only one OC
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>>550529914
Yes. It feels good to see yourself represented in a video game.
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>>550530321
>yourself
Bruh you are NOT a wolf son im crying....!!!!
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>>550530142
What did you mean by this ESL-kun
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>>550528350
having the entire outcome of a character's quest centered on one check is bad design, yes.
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I much prefer systems where skill checks are handled by meeting a requirement, rather than rolling a dice. Fallout and Wasteland are a couple examples that come to mind, where you either have 75 Speech to convince someone, or you don't. This rewards making specialized builds where your party members actually need to specialize. I also don't want my 300 Lockpicking character to fail to pick a mundane lock. No matter how many times people say so, it's not actually realistic. Your Rogue Trader who has 400 Commerce failing to buy a medpack because you happened to roll a 1 is not actually realistic. It's so videogamey in a bad way to roll dice for skill checks. In real life, people approach a lock or a door or a computer and they either know to access it or they don't.

Unfortunately, if they stick to the rulebook, Dark Heresy will have the dice rolling skillchecks. But I'm hopeful that Divinity will take the Fallout/Wasteland style.
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>>550530475
I’m actually the lizardperson posting every opinion you disagree with
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>>550529762
>>>no lizard girl companion in DOS2 or BG3
bro your red prince??
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>dark heresy
We have all moved onto solasta btw.
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has Larian stated if they're doing early access for Divinity?
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>>550529969
>DM curse of strahd
>players spend one year preparing
>they enter castle ravenloft, all artefacts in hand
>"roll athletics"
>"Uhhh 12"
>"You die, campaign over"
>"Wait what? Is it because we did something wrong?"
>"Oh no you did nothing wrong, it's just that I decided 12 months ago when we started this roll would decide the campaign"
>"What the fuck what a shitty campaign!"
>"If you don't like the rolls to affect the outcome don't play rpgs, whiny baby"

Do you get it now with an hypothetical or do I have to make a drawing for you?
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>>550531134
Yes
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>>550531169
should have rolled better.
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>>550527565
Cassia is at most 7 feet tall.
This is like 9 feet tall, which is way too much.
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>>550530723
In tabletop you could often opt to just take a fixed value on many checks. The idea being that if you're competent enough to do something without really trying you can just do it. Crpgs that roll checks should just use this by default and have a secondary option if you want to roll to try and do something that requires more skill.
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>>550531169
skill issue, should've had someone with athletics if you wanted to delve into a dungeon
gg no re
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>>550530723
[400 Katana] I don't like you. You're already dead.
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Starting Swordhaven tomorrow, happy to have a new CRPG
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>>550531169
Why do midwits always use irrelevant hypotheticals to defend their arguments?
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The only Swordhaven I'll play is the one that has Zards in it and writing that's stuck in 2000s webcomic humour.
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>wtf? I only scored 40% on this exam? failstates are bad game design university!
retard lol
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>>550531942
Maybe if you didn't argue irrelevant points they wouldn't have the opening to.
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>>550532038
The 40% is not dependent on luck, only on how much I studied
I also know what the results will be when I fail, unlike some random perception roll in wenduag's quest for example
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First time
r8 or h8
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>>550532135
Just have a high perception skill
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>>550531942
>irrelevant
It's very relevant, if you think a single roll that wasn't relate to any player decision deciding everything you must thus conclude that in the hypothetical I presented the DM is in the wrong, as it's a case of a single roll unrelated to player action that decides everything in an rpg.
It only stops being relevant when you consider rolls have a context their placed in and can be good or bad design, and once you accept that, you concede the argument.
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All I'm getting from this spergout is someone used a stat dumping skill-let munchkin build and is now complaining that it can't pass checks.
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>>550530723
I agree but rolling as many dice as possible is some kind of sacred cow to some developers
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>>550532145
Remember Iselmyr is the best girl.
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>>550532231
You can fail anyway
You cannot fail an exam to no fault of your own bar extreme circumstances, in which case, it is indeed an unfair and unsatisfactory result that should not have happened and the extreme circumstances are to blame

I don't know if I'm getting baited or this is a genuine dispute to be had
I hope it's bait
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>>550532145
>lanky faggot
>15 might
enjoy being a muscletard in the storybook sections
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>>550532145
>6 resolce
Have fun missing all good dialogue options
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>>550532485
This is a video game not a test that actually effects anything.
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>>550532145
This image reminded me of how much I hated Sawyer's braindead attempt at reimagining stats.
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>>550532567
Ok so why was this used as an argument >>550532038
Again, I'm being baited right?
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>>550532567
Arguably the test doesn't effect much either. If you fail it you either still pass because your grade was high enough anyway or you don't and have to REPEAT the class.
Either way you either pass the check or get to retry it at a mild inconvenience.
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Savescummer mental gymnastics is quite amusing
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>>550532779
>you don't and have to REPEAT the class.
You know you dont have to repeatedly the game either.
>>550532709
are you autistic that was clearly a joke making fun of you?
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>>550532328
You don’t need an imaginary hypothetical to make your point. I actually agree with your argument more than the other anon’s. The problem is you’re being a childish retard by trying to use an imaginary exaggerated hypothetical to make your point. No educated person does that. There is a reason you see that arguing technique from redditors and soys.
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People who don't play or dm ttrpgs should not be listened to when they discuss crpg design
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>if the video game doesnt give me all the content at once its bad.
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>>550532893
>You know you dont have to repeatedly the game either.
Saar the point is in the example you either pass the check anyway or get to try again saar.
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>>550532145
Poe models are so fucking ugly
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>>550533059
You can just fail a check and move on you know? Your character doesnt have to he perfect and win at everything.
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>>550532964
>No educated person does that
Not true, but if I were to elaborate you would probably find it pretentious so we'll leave it at that.
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Personally, I think that Solasta 2 will be good.
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Remove skill checks, failing is bad game design
Remove branching paths, exclusive content is bad game design
Remove evil route, losing content is bad game design
Remove stat requirements, prerequisites are bad game design
Remove RNG, dice rolls are bad game design
Remove CRPGs, action games are better
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>>550532405
Reminder Aloth is best girl
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>>550532145
Dumping resolve that far is a mistake, but many argue with me. Your plan of "lol just don't get hit" won't always work. I wouldn't have that high of Int for a Cipher either personally.
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>>550533169
Tell that to the guy that came up with the example
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>>550533169
>Your character doesnt have to he perfect and win at everything.
REEEEEEEEEEE BAD DESIGN BAD DESIGN BAD DESIGN BAD DESIGN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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When you think about it failing skill checks is just a game cuckolding you
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Did they ever add controller support to the POE games?
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>The argument made: tie the crucial skill checks to the branching paths
>the strawman: remove skill checks and branching paths
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>>550533687
>The argument made: tie the crucial skill checks to the branching paths
Thats retard because what if you fail and miss out on content?
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>>550533826
Then it was a result of your own decision and thus good rpg design
No argument was made about content, that's a strawman you brought up that no one argued.
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>>550533687
>>The argument made: tie the crucial skill checks to the branching paths
Bitch, you'd still be whining that you missed on content because of failed skill check, you're not fooling anyone
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Sex with strawdollies
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>>550534062
>NO I DON'T CARE THE POSITION YOU ARE DEFENDING, YOU ARE MY STRAWMAN, I SAID SO!
Ok retard

As I said here >>550533027
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>>550533942
>result of your own decision and thus good rpg design
How is the computer rolling a 1 my decision?
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>how is the dice landing on 1 my decision?
>BAD GAME DESIGN REEEEEEEEE
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>>550534210
>How is the computer rolling
The computer rolling a 1 was a result of the branching path you chose, in which you assumed risks, including the risk of failure to follow through
It can also be the result of being careless (I didn't cast anything to detect traps when entering the dungeon)
It's a roll that involves the player character, and is not completely arbitrary
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The inability of crpgg to discuss even the simplest of topics without resorting to hyperbole and strawmen
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Wastelands hard skills checks>dice rolls.
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Is this legit? Not the AI manifactured controversy, I mean the turn based thing

I thought it would be an ARPG
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>>550534613
a simple google search would confirm it
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>>550534613
>>I thought it would be an ARPG
Why? Sven has been a TB god since he started game dev. Now that he has money to do what he wants, why would he make actionslop?
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>dice fags unironically think rolling a one and just failing automatically is good game design
LMFAO
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>>550534720
>Now that he has money to do what he wants, why would he make actionslop?
haha yeah there's no historical precedent for that or anything
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>>550534374
Wrong.
Even your example admits the result, not the dice roll is within your control because of find traps. If you roll a 1 you are not detecting most things even with +10 perception, which as a level 2 spell is significantly less for most of the game.
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>>550534852
>>dice fags unironically think rolling a one and just failing automatically is good game design
yes, cope and sneed
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Dice fag cope up above^
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>>550534960
>If you roll a 1 you are not detecting most things
I beg you to actually play a ttrpg
It's common to make certain key things be immediately visible without a roll if the player casts the right thing. This has been in official modules for decades.

But besides. They could have dug around the dungeon (I had this actually happen)
They could have found a solution that did not require the dungeon (another branching path). Good design is placing the TPK trap only in a place where not only fate is involved in its activation

Again, actually play tabletop.
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>>550533170
sry you are a midwit
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crpg romance scene idea: your charisma stat matters and you have to roll to make your waifu blush
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>mindbreaks /crpgg/
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>>550535206
I have and do.
We are talking about crpgs not ttrpgs.
You even admit this by saying the computer is rolling.
Please work on your bait.
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>pillars,wasteland,bloodlines,Fallout,AOD,colony ship, underrail
All the best crpgs are games that heavily remove dice faging effecting things outside of combat and replace it with hard skill checks.
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I can never lose an argument if I never respond to anything you say
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>>550535528
>I have and do.
You clearly do not, which is why you don't understand the role of the dice, something that should be self evident to anyone who does.
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>>550535623
Bloodlines and Fallout are the only good games on your list
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>>550535623
>doesn't name a single "best crpg"
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>chooses to play a dice game
>melts down because he doesn’t like dice games
>seethes at people who enjoy dice games
hey mate, why don’t you save it for ur suicide note
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>>550535623
>>pillars,wasteland,bloodlines,Fallout,AOD,colony ship, underrail
holy shit taste
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>>550535763
>not liking a single game on that list
Owlslopper or larian fag? Call it.
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turnBASED
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>>550535915
>This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games made by Owlcat and Larian
Read the fakkin' OP
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>>550536036
Thats what I thought im not taking a owlslopper or larian fags opinion seriously.
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I only like things that no one else likes. I'm very special. That's what my mom said.
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One good way to stop players from the feelings of needing to reload is to have an absolutely obscene number of checks, with many that you would have to lean very hard in some particular direction to have a chance at.
So you just accept that you will be missing many, and it also feels more lifelike. But devs whine about this because "waaaah players might not see all the content waaaah"
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Why dont more games just use hard skill checks to prevent save scumming?
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>duuuuude I need to fricken win every timeeeeeer
>s-stop liking d-diceee
>u-urrr grandma could die if u don’t roll a 10 that’s why dice r baddddddd
>i-i’m not madddddddd
>stop liking d-dice!!!!!!!
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>Ummm all games bad ackshually
Top tier discussion only in /crpgg/.
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>>550535710
I mean when I played in 3rd and 3.5 we'd just take a given number on checks to avoid having to reroll until we got a high enough value which is something crpgs should do.
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>larian and owlcat
WE have all moved onto solasta 2 btw.
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>>550536297
hard skill checks are stupid AF
>[Persuasion 200] You should kill yourself
>Yes, I just realized you're right *shoots self in head*
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>>550536608
Shepard does this just from getting good guy points earlier in the game and it was the most kino moment in any game.
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>>550536297
Binary checks are boring. There's no risk reward to it.
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>>550536608
I mean both are stupid since with dice checks a master or persuasion can randomly fumble it.
You really just need to pick your poison.
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>>550536297
Because dice fags get mad when they can't get a lucky roll and have their 6 CHA character pass a persuasion check.
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>Persuasion [DC 25]: Actually I win this argument, dumbass.
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New vegas (the best crpg of all time) has proven hard skill checks>dice faging.
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>>550537010
>n-noooo it’s the dice enjoyers who can’t take losing!!!!!
>i-its the dicefags seething about losing n-not meeee!!!!
just give it a rest midwit
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>>550537252
>New vegas (the best crpg of all time)
Josh...
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>>550537252
>I can't convince you to let me enter the fort? Just you wait a week that I level up and get a new haircut so my cha is high enough!
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Is Solomorne interesting as a companion in RT? Aren't the Arbites just space cops?
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>>550537490
I don't know anon, why don't you roll persuasion and see if I want to give you an answer?
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>>550537490
No
Basically yes.
Glaito is the more interesting character especially with his romance with vyatt.
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>>550537252
>Shit, I'm not smart enough to answer that
>Reads a magazine
>Takes some drugs
>Can now answer it
>Back to being retarded 5 minutes after
Very cool Sawyer.
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>>550537490
No he is a boring companion and lex flopped because of it, they should have made the companion a sexy black cop lady as a alternative to kibbles
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>>550536885
The problem is a d20 system. In a 3d6 system your chances of truly fumbling on a 3 are much, much lower than getting around the 9-13 zone.
So actually, the problem is using a Uniform Random distribution for phenomena (like skill checks, hitting with your weapon etc) that it has no business modeling. Something approaching gaussian/"bell curve" is much more natural for almost everything, but "roll 1 to 20" is easier for retarded people.

tldr master swordsman stabbing himself in the dick 5% of the time is not stupid because it's a dice roll, it's stupid because the underlying distribution of rolling a d20 is stupid for whether you hit with a sword or not.
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>>550537578
>>550537615
Hmm, I probably should use him just coz he's new content but I don't want to drop Yrliet.
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>>550537490
>Is Solomorne interesting as a companion in RT?
No, I don't know where they were going with him aside from bits and pieces they cut off of Jimmy. His cumrag breakdown is nonsensical
>i lost a dog boohoo
wat
>Aren't the Arbites just space cops?
ye
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>>550537615
>lex flopped
It surpassed the playercount of void shadows
I don't know if the exact sales numbers reflect that (not always 1 to 1 with playercount) but it's hardly a flop
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>>550537594
This is pretty much how I passed college so thats realistic
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>>550536850
Goes back to what they were originally saying about how dice rolls could then have the kind of table of consequences. Critica failure and the trap blows up in your face, regular failure and you avoided having your face melted but the trap going off alerted an enemy, etc. Obviously that's a metric ton more work for a dev team, though.
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>>550537787
You know what, you're right. It's not that ridiculous.
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Solomorne is mathematically more popular than kibbles btw.
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>>550537875
And we go right back to the problem with that
>oh I failed? Reload.
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>>550538083
I'm in act 2 and even ignoring the romance parts, Kibellah's DLC has been quite interesting. Freight Line was a cool zone and the blood temple was pretty sick. I like how actually looting stuff in the diseased zone gave you AIDs.
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>>550537252
>[Speech 100] HURRR IF YOU GO WEST YOU CANT HOLD EAST
>I STUDIED SUN TZU DURRRR
Bravo Avellone!
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isn't because some season pass 1 buyers only started playing after lex?
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Hot take
Kibbles would have been more popular if her expansion didn't start until after footfall.
The big problem with void shadows is it frontloads a bunch of stuff, spikes your power, and makes you spend more time when you just want to get through the prologue.
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>>550538248
New Vegas is a great game but using it as an example of good skill checks is pretty funny.
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>>550538246
The DLC is great. I'm just making fun of waifuniggers who just tell outright lies because something surpassed the dlc in player numbers. Never listen to opinions of waifuniggers. They are outright deranged and should honestly be committed
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>>550538173
I think it's possible to make consequences that aren't necessarily successes but don't necessitate immediate reload. If someone is determined to just reload until they get the result they want there's nothing anyone can do about that though.
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>>550538612
>there's nothing anyone can do about that though
remove quicksaving
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>>550538254
I'm sure it's real in your head
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>>550537615
Lex didn't flop retarded kibblefasg
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>>550538612
Of course it's possible. Disco Elysium did it. It just requires writers and event planners that are at least half competent - something that is a rarity among people making crpgs
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>>550538738
The problem is deeper.
>the game is 100 hrs long and I want to see as much as I can because I might not replay it for a while
>oh I failed a lore check? Reload.
People are much more willing to just go with the flow when they can see replaying the game more quickly.
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>>550538612
Consequences should be the culmination of many smaller actions and outcomes. Now there's no sensible place where you reload unless you're adamant on passing every single check.
But then, what I keep trying to emphasize, is that some interesting outcomes should come out of failing. So there could be some consequences that are not easily predicted by just looking at the "successes" and "failures".
This is not "everybody's a winner no matter what" like some anon will strawman, but just making it less binary.

Say I fail every single lock pick in a dungeon. Later I get news about some people moving in and finding some cursed armor in the chests I missed, now it's driven someone mad with power and there's some story opportunity for returning.
I'm not a writer and that took me all of 5 seconds. But these kind of things are not impossible at all, devs are just fucking uncreative hacks and lazy too. Mostly just retreading the same ground over and over, with a few exceptions now and then.
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>>550538246
Everything about the dlc outside Kibbles is good. Her retarded fags think its ONLY well-liked because of her, which nah.
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Solomorne is only more popular than kibbles because of cop fags
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>>550539237
Such people need to be put against a wall and shot. Or just stick to playing bing bing wahoos
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>>550539261
>But these kind of things are not impossible at all,
if you have infinite budget and manpower, sure, feel free to quintuple the work needed for a single dialogue tree
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Cut most of the trash fights, you've cut a 5th or more of the game's run time.
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>>550537759
Don't bother with him. The interesting parts of the DLC are interesting on their own merits without Solobore. Only take him when you must.
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>>550539637
Or just don't shoot your shit on garbage like >>>MUH GRAFFIX that doesn't stand the test of time.
>dude if you zoom way in, you can like see your reflection in the charcter's beads of sweat!
like who really actually gives a fuck, but this is what they waste resources on
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>>550537759
>I don't want to drop Yrliet.
ick
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>>550537781
>It surpassed the playercount of void shadows
Yes because of the goodwill FROM Void Shadows
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>>550539891
Graphics matters, if your game looks like hot garbage, you've filtered 99% of your audience before they even begin.
Owlcat games are good but no one would've given Kingmaker a second chance if it wasn't a pretty looking game with nice animations and portraits.
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>>550539980
nooooo kibblefags would NEVER play lex imperialis
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>>550539980
kibblesfag do you realize people played Void Shadows for more than a shitty romance with your waifu?
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>>550458392
disavowed wasnt worth a new playthrough but I'm glad I got to make use of eothas's corpse for something good
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>>550540728
Eothas deez nuts
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Is Swordhaven any good? How does it compared to Owlcat/Larian rpgs?
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>>550541117
Waiting for more reviews, but I enjoyed the demo. Low fantasy (as in no magic, no fantasy races) but felt like a good solid crpg. I remember being ready to buy while I played the demo, but you and I may have different tastes.
Obviously no mocap/full-voice stuff, that's basically only Larian in the crpg space. So if that's what you need, you'll have to keep waiting.
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Well solasta 2 start the second golden age of crpgs?
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>>550540152
>>550540238
I never mentioned kibbles, you pathological liars
I merely pointed out that VS was very good, regardless of kibbles, and people bought Lex expecting more of the same quality
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>>550541767
I think history will see BG3 as starting the second golden age even if that doesn't seem quite right to me. Solasta 2 will be one of many "AA" crpgs, like Swordhaven and Banquet for Fools. We'll also keep getting Owlslop and Larian normiebait, and some ambitious titles from even smaller devs like Aletheia and Black Geyser.
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>>550542253
Actually switch "Banquet for Fools" and "Black Geyser" there.
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>>550541117
No smoochable dollies no care
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>>550542253
how can bg3 mark the start of the second golden age when we've had a second golden age with the pillars era already
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>>550542945
Microsoft suits unironically believe this btw.
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Solasta will win goty
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who else is high af right now?
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the Solasta bot is starting to piss me off
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>>550543590
WE are all excited for Solasta 2 name a better crpg that is coming out in the next 2 years.
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we love Solasta here
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Solasta, the legendary game nobody ever played.
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More like Camelasta, hahahaha
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>did so well its getting a sequel
>nobody ever played it
Let me guess your a huge crpg fan that only plays owlcat and larian games.
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Does Solasta have summons?
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More like Shitlasta, ahahahahaha
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>>550544979
Every 5e game has summons
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>>550546078
Crpgs?
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>all this solasta posting
I know what you are.
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>>550546078
What am I looking at
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What is the point of this general when vrpg exists?
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>>550547918
is there a CRPG general there or would I have to always be looking at the catalog for whatever might be a crpg?
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i thought black geyser was doing the "he is acting like a over the top dick to test you because you are the chosen one" thing. it seems the king is just very obviously effected by the greed curse and is evil.
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>>550548795
"Greed curse" seems terribly uninteresting as a motivation
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If I were a crazy evil king id just triple the wizard funding and tell them "make whatever you want as long as it helps me take over the world". Within a year id just have a ton of crazy stuff going on in my kingdom.
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>greed curse
bitch I don't need some lameo curse to make me covet my neighbor's goods I already do that
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Currently 15 hours in now and I think I've warmed up to the game while still some things I'm not the biggest fan of.
Quests and character interactions are by far the best thing still, there's a good amount to do in each settlement especially when you get to the main city.
The low fantasy setting picks up the more you explore and it's been fairly unique.
Combat has just been kind of frustrating. Groups of enemies get aggroed one by one from line of sight, pathing gets broken because there's a lot of narrow corridors only 1 person can stay in breaking party and enemy ai.
Enemies will always attack the closest party member so it's very easy to kite them, swap aggro and have your ranged party member never take damage because they're always far away.
Most enemies have continued to be rats, slimes, frogs, turtles. The occasional dinosaur or other weirder creatures have been cool to see. The weapon skills are at least fun to use and help you feel stronger rather than just clicking on an enemy.
Any financial issues I was having prior have been fixed by stealing and pickpocketing everyone. Initially avoided this because I was rping as a priest (there's a lot of flavour dialogue about your characters background which is great) but there's no reason not to steal everything.
Progession is very crafting heavy which I like, between that and the setting I sometimes get reminded of playing Age of Decadence which is a good thing.
Overall, the game has some strong points while the rest is just okay. It has a good amount of QoL improvements over Atom but is still just very close to playing like the classic Fallouts. This has been on 0.99, idk if 1.0 has fixed any of these issues but will see if anything has changed after finishing up.
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>>550550258
Appreciate the thoughts, anon. How's the story overall? I assume somewhat weak but I'm not sure why I assume that.
How far along do you feel you are at 15 hours in, and how completionist are you being? Just wondering a rough estimate of how long a game it is
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>>550549304
>Archmagister gale would tou be so kind as to demonstrate the inventions you brought today?
>why certainly your majesty I shall just disrobe...
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>>550550861
You need the breeze to give a good presentation.
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>paladins back in Diablo
I thought those fuckers all died
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>>550550258
Are you playing in rtwp or tb? I remember hearing rtwp was bad.
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Started playing dos2. After about an hour I restarted and decided to play as Sebille. Kinda funny she's just a fucking racist. I killed Red Prince ON SIGHT. Doing an evil racist murderhobo run cause desu I am bored of goody-two-shoes runs.
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star trek crpg when
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>>550553904
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rtwp was so incredibly tedious in pillars that I really can’t imagine playing an entire campaign of wotr. I have the game with all dlc but I just know I will hate it
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>>550554084
Good news! You can play the whole game in turn-based.
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>>550554084
Pathfinder is inherently more fun because you can break the game with pets and summon spam
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>>550554048
No.
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>>550554084
Well for what it's worth, I prefer rtwp and thought it was well done in Pillars and pretty enjoyable.
However, I exclusively play wotr on turn-based, because rtwp in that game is a dogshit experience and they did nothing to innovate beyond "hurr durr unpause and things go" ie same thing BG did 20 years ago.
So even though we disagree on Pillars' rtwp, I'd personally advise just playing wotr entirely TB.
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>>550553035
Yahoo!
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I want to play Rogue Trader again because I have two DLC's worth of content I've basically not touched, but the first act is such a slog.

It gets even worse though, Footfall sucks so badly, and then when you try to leave you immediately get a dozen back to back hour long interruptions. The game had poor pacing to start with before you had time to breathe, but now it's worse than WOTR.
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>>550556347
>Swen makes writefags on hispter twitter seethe
I kneel
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>literal who has an opinion to share on twitter
fascinating
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>>550547918
vrpg is mostly a couple schizos trolling themselves in the same threads over the course of months.

No, not like here.
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>>550556638
>No, not like here.
How is it different from here?
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>>550556939
/vrpg/ has no threads about dollies
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swen called me his little lizardling
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I heard some people saying that Arcanum is like a spiritual sequel to the early Fallout games.
Any validity in that, or is it just that they're in the same sub-genre?
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>>550555971
The first act and Footfall are faster the second time around.
There's also some DLC stuff in the first act to liven it up
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>>550555971
You get a ship boarding action straight out of footfall pretty much with the second dlc
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Delar gf who behaves like Varang
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>>550556939
The main difference is the anons here seem to be arguing with themslves for shits and giggles and the ones there seem to be doing the same due to some kind of severe mental illness.

They'll get triggered even harder by rpgcodex mentions there too.
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>>550557941
not shitposting who is the Varang of crpgs?
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>>550557941
Hilarious how fast retards went from le purge the xenos memes to this
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>>550558517
Something something freud was right about most political extremist are just coping about not getting laid and would instantly switch their beliefs for some pussy.
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Do you find her tsundere routine endearing or infuriating?
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>>550558702
Just because your gf is an alien and you love her and she loves you and you have half-alien children together, doesn't make you any less of a human maximalist.
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>>550558882
She reminds me of Kim from better call saul
To answer your question, I enjoyed her attitude, but it's almost completely lacking in payoff.
Sometimes I think KotOR 2 was more suited to a miniseries than a game.
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>>550558702
The colonel got turned into a giant cat person through some sort of super-tech
So of course he's a cat-supremacist now and has a cat-gf
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>>550559076
>To answer your question, I enjoyed her attitude, but it's almost completely lacking in payoff.
The payoff is the "I loved him" line if you're male. Originally, she was supposed to be a late-game companion to replace Kreia when she left.
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>>550559230
He is talking about how the same people online who are posting about wiping out all the blue cat things are now the same ones posting about how they want to fuck the new hot cat chick.
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>>550559232
Yeah. That line really made me unhappy that she isn't a romance option. She's the most prominent female on the promo material and art, but she barely does anything to justify it except having a cool design.
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>>550558346
girl who hates where she comes from whose hatred for it you can capitalize on?
pallegina
valerie
dark side jaesa wilsaam
sharran shadowheart
either voerman
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>>550559427
You're probably already aware but she originally had a dark path where she becomes darth traya and kreia stays with you
The model is still in the game files
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>>550557941
The Varang actress is way more expressive than whomever plays Neytiri.
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>>550559789
Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter.
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Idira should have been a hot Asian woman and romanceable
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idira should have been my romancable nubian QVEEN
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>>550559686
>You're probably already aware but she originally had a dark path where she becomes darth traya and kreia stays with you
that path must have been cut early in development because it really doesn't make any narrative or thematic sense
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>>550560192
As far as I know it was there till quite late.
She literally turns dark in the final battle with her. It would have been easy to have her be the final boss at Malacor
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>>550534852
Just shows how PF2e is once again better than its contemporaries
There are two levels of failures and successes, normal and critical. Rolling a 1 doesn't automatically mean you crit fail, just that your result is one level lower on the critical failure - critical success scale
So if the DC is low enough / your modifiers are high enough, you can succeed even with a nat 1
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>>550550258
Cool Codex post, bro, why don't you tell us your actual opinion?
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>>550560408
I'm just saying it doesn't make any real narrative sense because she only appears in the game for a couple of cutscenes and has no history with Malachor V or Sion etc
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Owlcat didn't make another pathfinder game because they dont have the skills required to do a 2e game.
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>>550560480
The whole 1 being a critical fail isn't even a rule in D&D, at least it wasn't. It was just homebrew shit that caught on through the zeitgeist because funny wacky things.
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Pillars having grazes was good, and equipment that would change grazes to hits and so on was fun
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>>550560962
>The whole 1 being a critical fail isn't even a rule in D&D, at least it wasn't
You're right. It used to be an automatic fail if you hit a 20.
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>>550561576
Grazes and having your "attack speed" depend on your armour were good ideas imo
Just didn't really find the combat otherwise all that enjoyable, though perhaps it was because you had to do so much of it
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The world in crimson
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>>550562074
Nevermind, I got it mixed with skills.
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>>550562361
1 being an autofail was always so silly to me.
>roll a skillcheck dc 1
>roll a 1
>have +20
>sorry you fail.
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>>550562562
Diceslop will always be shitty and ridiculous.
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>>550562562
Its because if something is so trivial that you dont even have a 5% chance of failure, you shouldnt roll for it at all and sucess should just be presumed. And there's also other things that you do to avoid rolling dice like taking 10s or 20s in some editions.
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>>550562562
Even the best of us can miss a shot
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>>550562562
It's nice having some element of randomization so you can't just minmax the game into submission
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>>550560914
2e would be easier to adapt than 1e. 1e has a bunch of pretty funky rules that require a lot of scripting, so it's very easy to break. There's not a lot of simple:
>Add your WIS + CHR bonus to DC
feats. Instead, it's stuff like:
>If you're standing next to a party member wearing heavy or medium armor with the In Harm's Way feat and they're defending you or another caster, and you cast a spell with a cold descriptor on an enemy who is flanked by a rouge, then add 1d6+(2+1d3)*(WIS modifier) to your spells difficulty class to overcome resistance.
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>>550562562
>>550562710
Don't blame all of dice for it. Rolling lowest in d20 is 5% chance, one in every 20 rolls. Rolling lowest in 3d6 is about 0.5%, or one in every 200 rolls.
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>>550558517
you weren't aware of that old meme about the most racist dude and his girlfriend?
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>an 8 foot tall cat lady will never pin you down and forcibly breed you
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>>550562970
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>Harrim and Greybor are both voiced by the same guy
WHAT
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>>550562562
>I'm entitled to 100% success rate once I put enough points into this skill
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>save the kings life and solved the mystery
>doesnt even reward me and immediately sends me on another quest
the fuck man.
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>the diceschizo is at it again
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>>550559789
They did say they are using new technology for Varang's facial capture since she is the latest one to be done. The rest were done a while ago.
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>I ACTUALLY LIKE YOU A LOT BUT I'M MEAN TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS MY EMOTIONS IN A HEALTHY WAY. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE MY PARENTS SENT ME AWAY TO BE RAISED BY JEDI, BUT ALL THE JEDI HAVE THAT STORY AND EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS FINE SO MAYBE I'M JUST BROKEN INSIDE AND CAN'T EXPERIENCE INTIMACY. ANYHOO, IM GOING TO GO TO MY SECRET HOLOCRON ROOM AND TOUCH MYSELF THINKING ABOUT YOU; HAVE A SAFE TRIP. ALSO, I'M GOING TO HAVE A WOMAN SNEAK ON BOARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE SO I CAN VICARIOUSLY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU THROUGH HER. SHE'S GOT A SUPER CRAZY BACKSTORY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE HER SUPER EASY TO TURN AGAINST ME, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE WOULD DO THIS SO HAVE FUN WITH THAT.
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>>550564589
This doesn't make sense. The Exile is canonically female and Atris doesn't come across as lesbian in the slightest.
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>>550558882
there wasn't much dere in her routine
but i recall arguing with her fun enough as far as the dialogue choices went
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>>550565424
we're obviously talking about the superior non canon male version
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>>550565424
>talking about a canon that was decided by different people years down the fact
Meaningless
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>my tragic backstory is that I fucked too many succubi
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every crpg should have a combat arena, also we should bring back roman style gladiator arenas irl
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judging by how much cooler she looks she is definitely a better wizard.
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Why doesn't the high af poster ever play good games?
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>>550566150
Bjalla is such a silly name
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>>550566332
The crpgg poster is baffled by the crpg enjoyer
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will dark heresy have romances?
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>>550566726
Yes it's literally just free money for them
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>>550566332
Like what? The baldurs gate clone he is playing and the wizardry like he was playing dont really seem that bad.
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>>550566726
yes and WE are all romancing epione since she is the only human female romance, as the god emperor intended.
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>>550567046
the god emperor would never encourage race mixing
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>>550567173
He calls it race maxxing
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>>550567173
If the emperor doesn't want racemixing he should give me an inquisitorial giga stacy for me to breed.
Since he decided to give me a bunch of aliens and mutants, I am doing the best I can with what I have.
Owlkek is saving the gigastacy for the expanse unfortunately.
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>>550538248
This thing you think sucks is actually fucking awesome once you realize it's taking the piss. Caesar is a retarded philosophy name-dropping LARPer in charge of a bunch of even more retarded LARPers. Saying some vague Art of War bullshit and making the unwashed raider go "Hmm, yes of course I see" is nothing but a continuation of the retarded manipulation they've been falling for all along. Bonus points if Sawyer was going around the office being autistic about his Hegelian Dialectics dialogue or how brilliant Caesar is.
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>>550567173
There's only one race, in His eyes: Mankind.
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>>550538583
Do you actually think people telepathically knew that Lex was better than Void Shadows and that's why they bought it? Before they played it?
In reality, people enjoyed Void Shadows and bought Lex on the strength of that.
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>>550568570
Cops are cool thats why people bought it.
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I boughted the season pass because I am a paypig for Owlcat
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>the royal family is just actually the bloodline of the anti-christ
didnt see that coming.
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Is this good or bad map design
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>>550570197
it's kino
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I NEED to have sex with Yrliet
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>the watcher
I feel like pillars could have come up with a cooler title
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>>550570197
Extremely annoying until you get teleports everywhere to cheese it and then it's annoying because you still have to bother with it even though it's so trivial
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>>550570498
download character ai
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>>550570504
Nah, POE reminding me of that one shitty gacha game that was getting shilled by ads all the time a couple of years back is just perfect for it.
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Esoteric Ebb seems to be the only disco elysium like that looks promising.
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>>550571101
Thank you dev. I wishlisted your game.
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I was trying to replay F:NV, and I just can't get over how fucking silly everything is. I played the OG Fallouts as a teen and I've never seriously replayed them, and I know why now. The whole premise is just too pants on head retarded. Fallout is great for its roleplaying mechanics, but the setting is beyond help.
I'm not even talking about logical inconsistencies here. I'm talking about the basic elements making up the setting, the layers of it. First there's the 50's sci-fi, which in itself has always been retarded. And not in a charming way. Fight me over this. Then there's the pop culture references and humour, which is not an aside but really another layer, because it's a consequence of the first element. Devs were like "we know this is silly, we get it lololol you don't get it!!". Maybe if they had gone with actual, hard sci-fi it wouldn't be as cringey. Still, even the 50's sci-fi elements might have been tolerable, if they hadn't tried to marry it with post-apoc on top. These three layers never really coagulated into a cohesive whole. They stand side by side and it's jarring. And every game builds on these shortcomings and adds more shit that just stands out and feels weird.

tl;dr Fallout as a setting is retarded but would have been tolerable if it was just one game

inb4 there are no Fallouts after the first
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>>550570504
What about the witcher? ah that's already taken
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>>550571601
Fallout 1 isn't too silly
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>>550571601
This isn't good enough of a post to repost it
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550571601
2/10
bait
not even worthy of a (you)
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>>550571601
having a taste this bad should be a crime
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>>550554048
It fails to be a rogue trader game, let alone a star trek game
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>>550556347
Maybe AI will finally be the thing that will make basedtards and trannies kill themselves en masse
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>>550558882
Tsndere is always cringe. Unless it's a man
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Necromancer's Tale added a romance with Rosario and you faggots haven't told me about it.
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>>550566150
How's the romance in the game?
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>>550576157
It's great. Every time you try to smooch a dolly the game gives you a screen saying "Go outside and touch grass, incel"
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>>550575762
Is that game turn based? Saw that it apparently has controller support so was planning on picking it up during Christmas sales.
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New thread?
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>>550577061
Yes but it's more of a dialogue focused game
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>>550576509
plantfucker pandering is unreal
devs are out of control
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>>550577061
It's more of a narrative game. There is turn based combat in the game, but it's very by the numbers and very much not a main focus.
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>>550577181
This is the last thread
Goodbye
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Humanity in 40k are basically bio-engineered superhumans, they experimented on themselves for millennia. Abhumans are really just designed for a specific purpose/environment.
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Dark heresy when
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Swordhaven bros are we having fun?
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>>550579119
Yeah men of gold/stone/iron
Men of stone were the genetically modified caste and the modifications spread throughout the baseline population over the millenia
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>>550579564
>men of stone/iron were the genetically modified caste

40kiddies don't even know their own lore when the babble endlessly about it, no, the Men of Stone/Iron were AI and the reason why servitors are a thing.
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dark heresy will be a fem mc game
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There's a whole chapter where Belisarius Cawl reminisses about meeting the Emperor when he was just a rogue scientist, helping people fix their DNA.
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>>550579964
Men of Iron were AI
Men of Stone were explicitly not AI. They were biological humans but somehow synthetic and mostly immune to the warp. Highly integrated with cybernetics but NOT AI. Men of Iron were the helpers of the Men of Stone.
One of them appears in a short story called Ancient History
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>>550580173
>when he was just a rogue scientist
Cawl or the emperor ?
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>>550581945
Yes
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>>550581945
both.
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>>550532145
I dont get why you are bumping your might past 13 as a cypher and duping resolve
Going 18 dex instead is also weird compared to bumping up per and int (15 int is just weird)



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