AI-moen edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>550279436>Thread QuestionDo you care at all if a game uses AI for art and whatnot?
my bad for fucking up the title I was busy looking at AI pictures
You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.
>>550396774I don't want AI in any of the creative fields like art, music, writing. If it's being used for boring stuff like I dunno, making realistic lighting then whatever, I don't care.
>>550397118He has the "I like to watch" phenotype
Who's Tandy?
Why do you anons support AI? Artists who spent years honing their skills are now being thrown away like trash because some CEO wants to take a cheap shortcut.
>>550393430>Dos 1 I'm casting aero blitz jump into the pack geomancer earthquake to knock down all targets cast a witchcraft damage buff a man at arms damage buff and whirlwind for 3x damage with the bully talentIn DOS1 you aren't casting shit since higher level spells require one gorillion levels of investment to obtain because the level cost linearly increases which in turn forces you to focus on 1-2 schools of skills at most
>>550397209>Only wants her for a handjob>Doesn't remember her nameIt checks out
I don't care at what cost, I just want to see Larian pay for what they did to my Viconia
>>550397239NO! our guy Swen would never resort to such cheap strategies he still employs 73 artists and they should be thankful to still have a paycheck these lazy useless unproductive shits
>>550397118FUCKING TECHBROSI HATE THEMI HATE LARIAN
>>550397118>makes reddit seetheBased
>>550396774If you care so little about what you’re making that you’re happy asking the slop machine to produce some generic garbage for you I don’t see why I should have any interest in it
>>550397239I made this using AI. Its fun and interesting to tinker with, but its just a novelty. I can't see it being useful in a game, and definitely not a paid artist should be using. We want humans to speak with us with their art.
>>550396774>Do you care at all if a game uses AI for art and whatnot?AI has not produced anything that's worth talking about in a serious manner.Can't even repeat the same detail from different angles - which means it's useless for concept art. Pic related is what happens when you let concept artists use AI.If you think the current vidya is slop, just you wait until AI art will become widespread in video games. I don't hate AI on priciple, but accepting AI art is settling for mass produced, low quality garbage. Stick with generating funny memes.
>larians is next game is going to be an ai/jeet coded starfield style flop>dark asset flip got delayed and owlcats mass effect without aliens game is definitely flopingSolastaGODS won btw.
>>550397302NTA but Thunder Jump is a novice skill, Earthquake is Master and that Witch buff skill is also novice. A Geomancer with "dips" can cast all of them just fine by mid game.
>73 artists For what though? AI autism aside that just feels like a waste of resources.
>>550397239I don't care about other professions being shat on by tech, why should I care about artists?Non-meme professions continue to be safe
>>550397118Maybe he can go back to making good games now that leddit can't stop seething about him, so there's no need to pander to them
>>550397553jesus christ how horrifying
>>550397698Textures, Models, Animation, SFX etc. etc.The chase for realistic graphics has bloated the budget and team size of any ambitious studio project.
>>550397553if swens tweet can be believed, they are not using it to generate concept art. the ai would gen some slop like this, along with all the other actual research and brainstorming their creatives are doing, and then the artist would use all of that as rough base to make the actual concept art or to brainstorm further and discard the general design, with critical review all along to prevent say, one or a few artists from leaning on the AI too much.
>>550397239>Artists who spent years honing their skillsYes, drawing furry porn takes incredible skill. I am so sad now
>>550397698Shadowheart's pubes and feetAlso lizard animations
Can AI make this?
>>550397553>settling for mass produced, low quality garbagebut this is exactly what we're getting already?
>>550397698artist are mostly contract work, unless you are square enix or blizzard. Larian maybe has 3 full time artist, two of which they picked up after DOS2
100s of people work for larian, someone is using AI and probably implementing the output without revision. Saying they don't use AI is bullshit. I can believe he doesn't WANT to use AI, but its still happening.
>>550397553Retards like this anon here always ignore the fact that AI tech is in its baby stage right now, and will continue to develop and improve>Automobile industry has not produced anything that's worth talking about in a serious manner.Can't even reach places not connected by roads - which means it's useless for travelling.
Can we go back to shitposting about CRPGs?
>>550397890I don’t see the point of even using ai like this. Feels like every industry is forcing people to use this garbage in a way that just makes everything take more time because you’re now in charge of sifting through unusable slop in addition to your regular job.
>>550398042Very easily, yes. In fact, the entire cover looks sloppy. AI-generated or AI-assisted, tomato or tomahto.
>>550398042>generic waifushitYes, easily
>>550398253There is like only 2 people here who actually even play crpgs.
Sex with fish
>>550398192>I-I swear b-bros it has unlimited potential just keep giving us money please don’t question the bubble
>>550398280>>550398338femcels seething
>>550398379Should’ve been lesbian desu
>>550397890Artists have been doing their own research until now and they have been doing a fine job.Let's say, using AI speeds up their work by 20%.Does that mean an artist can spend 20% time less working? HELL. NO.You get an inferior product, the artist still works the same amount of hours and the ones reaping the most benefits from this are the companies.>>550398192What is AI going to give you that video games haven't been delivering for dacades already? And is it worth the cost of losing more and more human input in it's creation?
>>550398258it's an objective fact that using it properly can save time, and it does do some things better than people can. i have no idea if my hypothetical is valid for something like creating art since i am not an artist and i do agree that if it is used, it needs to be used carefully to avoid just adding slop to an otherwise working human process.
I'm so certain it's a bubble that I'm shorting AI and WILL make several million dollars. Are you anons doing the same?
Can the AI draw THIS masterpiece?
>>550398514>And is it worth the cost of losing more and more human input in its creation?To the people that run these companies? Absolutely and you’d be naive to think otherwise.
>>550398465Me in the back right
>>550398514after seeing the DH and starfinder art?there's nothing to lose
>>550398656i thought the stock market was fake and 100% controlled
are the expanse posters shills? I don’t believe there is any real hype for that shittier mass effect
>>550397239I don't care if ai wasn't used, I'm not exactly pro aiI'm pro it is what it is. And I think it's absurd to think people won't use ai.All it takes is a few things people want to use it some way to justify it in people's heads as the goalposts shift Maybe divinty will be the game that pushes the goalpost or gta6 or whatever elseCall of duty freely uses it now and people barely care
>>550398379>bogged face
>>550398656Yeah but it is a matter of when the collapse will happen because it is lowkey too big to fail even if it is a scam, generative AI I mean, AI in general does have some uses
>>550398997I'm more hyped for it than Dark Heresy atm
>>550398997Actual mass effect is dead so ME fags need to move onto something.
>>550398379
Mass Effect was always for shitters and tumblr troons, real men like ALPHA PROTOCOL
>>550398514>What is AI going to give you that video games haven't been delivering for dacades already?Advanced npc behaviour and dialogue that isn't just 3 lines repeated ad nauseum. Actual honest to god reactivity that isn't just "How do you do, fellow paladin". Characters actually being able to say your name instead of using workarounds like "Knight Commander", "chosen one" or "tarnished"
I prefer x-com to be honest
>>550398763>To the people that run these companies?Brother, we're talking about the consumers here, not the ones who are making all the money from selling you garbage.>>550398852For every shit looking game you have just as many Darkest Dungeons, Raymans, Rivals, whathaveyou.You might as well kill yourself now if you're going to accept slop to spite devs you don't like. You clearly assign no value to art anyway.
>>550397302I could cast all of this besides the witch buff in a single turn which I still had a 1 point dip in case but I had my mage cast it on my melee midway into act 2 Dos1 system is actually incredibly freeing once you know how it works and don't over spend points on saving throws in a non wolf party to instead opt for clenses on everyone with 1-3 point dips to remove stunsLone wolf you get so many points you can get saving throws and 2-3 skills to master with dipsYou only need 4 into a skill to use a master skill and 2-3 into an attribute it's associated with for full accuracy more is just skill cd or higher acc to bypass enemy saving throws easier I wish dos2 used it
>>550399332>Advanced npc behaviour and dialogue that isn't just 3 lines repeated ad nauseum. Actual honest to god reactivity that isn't just "How do you do, fellow paladin".bro AI struggles to edit images how is it gonna do stuff like this
>>550399045You don't have to buy every game. Your time, if not your money, is finite. And if in a hypothetical future every single AAA game uses slop and you somehow can't escape it, there will always be that smaller game that's proud to use 100% organic grass-fed free-range human artists. It's not an inevitable future unless your interest is narrow enough that AI is already taking over your hobby.
>>550398997yes owlkeks shills post here
>>550399332Where Winds Meet has only shown me this is never going to work.
>>550399420>Darkest Dungeons, Raymans, Rivalswhich of these are supposed to be the good ones for contrast?
>>550399495>bro AI struggles to edit images how is it gonna do stuff like thisAnd here we have another retard that thinks that tech is static and is never gonna develop farther. How's your horse-drawn carriage doing, bro?
>>550398997>are (not-crpg) posters shills?Yeah
>>550399262>chinese MC>real man I don't think so
>>550399437I dont disagree that much and I went for plenty of dips myself, but your descriptions of ap costs are a bit disingenious. You'd need to hardcore bank ap before doing such a combo
>>550399051AI has a fuckton of uses, but shit like agentic OS is insane. Normalfags brains will wither completely with shit like that
>>>/v/728650698howling
If you can’t express your art through being artist perhaps you shouldn’t be one.
>>550399495Skyrim has a mod that does this, the Windhelm racists can become really fucking racist.
>>550399592Okay, at least we established you're not a good faith actor. Goodbye saar.
>>550399665>one day my microwave WILL be able to suck me off and only luddites disagree
>>550399705? Mike is a white guy
>>550399530Dude you lost. Like Im fully confident literally everything will use ai in a few years and you won't give a shitIt will be seen as just a tool like a type writer or the computer
>>550399810>it's a crutch for uncreative "artists" to "find" ideas they don't know how to expressWowza! So excited about Divinity and preordering it right now!
>>550399903will you let me play as a rat catcher though
>>550399843i don't see the problem with anon doing thatsame energy as feminists whining about robot sex companions
>>550399946the projection
>>550399748It's only like 11 ap 14 if you cast the witch buff I think You can start a fight with that easily
>>550397239ew she looks like a man t. man with recessed jaw
it's literally free money, anonshort ai while you can
>>550399946Everything turns into "you lost" or "I won" mindset with NPCs like you. You are extremely dull. Your appreciation for the artistic isn't a fucking video game or argument you can win.
>>550399992only after killing a dragon in the tutorial
duuuuude pay 80$ for our fricken alphaaaaa duuuude look at our fricken mass effect rip offffff loooook duuuuuude
>>550400136>>550400220Are you stupid, the modern world economy runs on aiEvery company is currently waiting until it's okay to use ai with the public or just using it alreadyIt's not going away because some redditors complained lol
>>550400384Stop making me feel bad about my impulse decision I made....
>>550399980You will replace communication with your team by sending each other AI Slop.
>>550400384you seem very upset
>>550400198ok using my life saving savings to short nvidiaif this doesn't work out i will find you and tickle you
Glad I finally completed RT on Daring - Ironman mode...Almost lost it because of those fuckin explosive servitors on Kiava Gamma!
AI is only good for memes
>>550400418You're completely missing the point, you cretin.
>>550400532>ironmani always die to the csm fight at the end of act 1 at least once, so this is impossible for me
>>550400418>It's not going awayThis was never the argument. I know it's tempting to paint all the anti-AI fags as ignorant luddites who don't understand smartphones and smart devices are here to stay but let's stick to video games and AI slop yeah?
>s-stop mocking my police obsession>you m-must be fricken madddd>n-nooo im n-not upset
>>550396774swen got the ai jeets here excited
>>550399903desu, I'd rather want a noble bright game. There's too much grim derp lately. I want to be a shiny hero in a fun and whimsical fantasy world without rape, body horror and vomiting orcs.
Why even add consumables to the game if they're not needed on the hardest difficulty?
>>550399903>dos2 was pretty darklol
>>550400647for me, it's the edit of sawyer turning into eothas when he sees someone making a fun build
>>550399903I will be playing as Lawful Good
>>550400984post it
>>550400682Because of the CSM himself or because of this piece of shit sniper that covers him?
>>550400532>completed RT on Daring>thinks it's some sort of an achievementAre you a game journalist or something?
>>550400968It was. The sorcerer Auschwitz was pretty fucked up also the shriekers and silent monks.
>>550399881he isn't white
>>550401056Not who you're replying to but the CSM has AI that either makes him burst 3 of your guys down on the first turn or run around and do retarded shit.
>>550401056usually just the csm, but one playthrough on unfair the sniper killed my entire party after we killed the csm.
>>550401184he's whiter than Shepherd who is canonically a mutt because all of humanity is racially ambiguous by that point according to lore
>>550400384>mass effect rip off huh ?
Shan't be touching Rogue Trader until all the DLC is released
>>550401498see you in 4 years then
>>550399881Looks like Christiano Ronaldo
>>550400418can't wait for this stupid bubble to pop
>>550396774>3.92 MB
I never played lawful good, its to boring.
>>550401620Who?
>>550400946Consumables are always such an afterthought
>>550401115>only 6% of players finished the game on Daring>only 0.6% finished the Ironman modeIt is *literally* an achievement. Now go be a cunt somewhere else.
>>550401706>it's too based*Fixed
>>550399810If you laugh you go to hell
I dont get why people here care about larian games so much ucb they are all woke trash and super easy
My alignment is based on the quest reward
>>550401706Angel in WotR is great
>>550401626>can't wait for this stupid internet bubble to popyou in 1999
>>550401938Any flavour of Lawful is great in WoTR.
>>550401850romances and fully voiced
>>550401984
>>550401850dollies with canonical pubes
>>550401940>Dot Com.jpg
he Marvin Gaye'd his own father
>>550401787Portuguese football player, arguably one of the best. Apparently spelt Cristiano. My bad
Fuck this.
Hard or Unfair?I played RT back at launch on Daring and remember it being very easy. Heard they nerfed all the broken shit tho.
WHERE ARE THE GODDAMN WAIFUS IN DARK HERESY
>>550402117and look at internet now, every fag in addicted on itsoon normalfags won't be able to take a shit without AI assisted toilet guiding them
>>550401787Bro how do you not know RonaldoI don't watch sports at all yet ik who he is. You had to have seen his face at least somewhere >>550402257 he's one of the most famous people in the world
>>550402257You forgot the anal rape, one of his many accolades.
>>550402384Even on Unfair by Act 2 your party can kill everything using only one or two party members. Cassia Grand Strategist + a damage dealer or two is just too broken. I'm having fun on Unfair trying to learn how to make suboptimal but still broken builds for my RT, though.
I always play chaotic while self inserting because I have high test and make every decision based on vibes. Also I am better than everyone.
>>550401818>It is *literally* an achievement. Lol, littel baby>Now go be a cunt somewhere else.No
>>550401850>I don't get why people care about the only people that make AAA CRPGs
>>550402275What is this? I haven't played WOTR all the way through but I think I recognize the Azata dragon, but the surroundings look high tech.
>>550401830>people advocating the use of ai are the worst people you've eveer metI wish I could live in an insulated bubble like this guy where people using AI to streamline work is the worst possible thing that could happen to you
Reminder: https://voca.ro/14dpPu4k1VRR
>>550403047If someone is seething about wotr you know it's blackwater
>>550402390In my basement
>>550403154kek I'm really like this
>>550402275the best way to do blackwater is to just leave it for act 5 when you can speedrun it
>>550403154Are you me?
>>550403154KEK
>>550403089My dream is for AI to suddenly stop working so we can see the crashout when the work skills lost over just these few short years are laid bare.
>>550403154Sawyer was right
>>550402471>he's one of the most famous people in the worldWhile that's probably true for most contintents, I wouldn't bet on Americans knowing him.
>>550403472Blackwater isn't even that bad. Just leave it as the final dungeon you do before finishing Act3.
are all women fags?
>>550403154>https://voca.ro/14dpPu4k1VRRhttps://voca.ro/167Bcajw0lsk
>>550403154this is why DH will be better
>>550403154Waifuniggers btfo
elf wives!
>>550404415you're a fagif a woman doesn't exist to service my cock she is worthless, I am the main consumer audience for CRPGs and I demand satisfaction
>>550403814I think blackwater is specifically bad if you've been relying on mindlessly right click attacking everything. If you've actually been using cc and have some way to either lower ac or target touch ac it's fine.
>>550404121Define 'fags'
>>550403689My familiarity with ronaldo is due entirely to ronaldo memes.I don't know how you can be on the internet and not at least be acquainted with him.
>>550404415Agree, if they don't like black dr she-mengele we have at least 2 or 3 more female companions that will be revealed.
>>550404121>there are non-hindus ITTWhat the fuck, saars.
>>550404671I've been on the internet since before you were born and I have never heard of ronaldo memes
>>550404641I mean most women seem down to lick some snatch, it's pretty gay
>>550404695I wonder if the Kroot companion is going to be a romance. That'd be a first (to my knowledge), being able to romance a monster.
>divinityI've never played this series, where should I start?
>>550404820Most young women are liberal and they are doing virtue signaling to fit in, since women have a biological compulsion to fit in because it's their safest option, and culture at large is very liberal. If culture was extremely conservative women would be calling for gays to be burned at the stake.
>>550404794Pretty difficult since I was on the internet when Al Gore invented it.>I've never heard of ronaldo memesThat just means you live under a rock
>>550404820Most dudes are OK with sucking dick, what's your point?
>>550399332You literally can’t have a coherent story or characters with AIslop, it can’t do it. Believe me I coomed to AI chatbots and tried a to use it as a text adventure simulator and I had to tardwrangle it constantly and edit it’s messages as it would blatantly contradict the things it was writing about all the timeWe’re talking good paid for models btw not dogshit like CharacterAI.
>>550405178no we are not
>>550405106Season 3 of the anime
>>550405178>>550405251I ain't gay, but 20 bucks is 20 bucks
>>550405251If you're not ok with sucking dicks then you're not really a man
>>550405206The problem with this is you're talking to people who refuse to accept it's possible that the tech could ever have any limitation
Would Camellia perform fellatio or does she think it's for the peasantry?
>>550404121https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM
>>550405314>>550405331I only suck pusy
>>550405206>Believe me I coomed to AI chatbots
To be fair, AI Chatbot Yrliet puts out
>>550405647Nigger it can’t even stay incharacter for cooming without me tardwrangling it, that’s the point of my post. Using it for a text adventure was even worse.
>>550405578>Would Camellia perform fellatio or does she think it's for the peasantry?I think pic related is a good hint
>>550399262Does overdosing on coke really give a man the ability to tank pointblank shotgun blasts?
>>550405518transformer based LLMs are close to hitting the plateauthat doesn't mean something else won't appear.we did start with RNNs
>a third of the /twg/ thread is Froggy sperging about Veilguard, 40K and Owlcat
>>550405913>I like the feeling of a man inside me.Me too Cammy, me too
>>550405981You’re assuming that it’s going to be here any day now instead of like, in potentially 10 years.
good morningi hate camellia
what a sperg lol, calm down little man
>>550404820Lol, lay off of porn for a while
>>550406249i'm certainly not assuming that, in fact everybody might get completely retarded before that happens>>550406301we all hate her
>>550404928Garrus? He's also a bird-like. Red prince is a literal furry
>>550406408I don't care. Kill all artists
>>550401328shepard is based off some olive skinned blue eyed tall dutch guy. like every top model has the same skin tone and eye color, even meeks
Camellia is /crpg/'s mascot
>>550406408Swen really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by letting his lazy bum artists rely on JeetGPT.
To keep the game lore-friendly, the Kroot will be voiced by Steve Blum
>>550406408yeah i dont why people keep sperging out about ai, theres nothing you can do to stop it
>>550405206>all tech has been evolving and developping since it's conception. But not ai though, no sir, it will never develop beyond what it is right nowI'm not sure if you people are just obfuscating stupidity because you have no argument or if you're actually this fucking retarded. Either way - yikes
>>550406763Reading comprehension, Sandeep.
>>550405518Please. Tech has been ever imàproving, computers as a concept are what not even 100 years old? It was unthinkable to even chat with a robot with any depth in 2015 and now you're saying we hit our limit because it's not perfect a decade laterLolLmao
>>550406641Mark Vanderloo.Not to be mistaken with Mark Meer, a Canuckistani that voiced Shepard
>>550406408This was already posted in this thread, shill
They always come crawling out of their mudhuts whenever a dev even so much as mentions AI
>>550406954tech improves but it doesn't create, which is the limitation anon is referring to
>guy staring at the typewriter>Woah I don't think it could ever get better than this
>>550406879Yes, I know that you have a problem with it. Ai can already help you with that already btw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3jROzEijlQ
>>550406954I guess you're not familiar with the concept of plateauing? is the iphone you own now really that different from an iphone from 2015? Why do you think "technology" is this magical thing that follows an ever-upward trajectory?
>>550407253Thank god the commentary is actually in english instead of some gibberish ebonics
>>550407280Because you have small improvements until the rest of tech catches up and you jump ahead and than small improvements until the next generation The camera alone on modern iphones absolutely blows out the old ones you fucking idiot You're right theirs only so many ways to make a square shaped mini PC but one day those will be directly connected to our brains and AI is nothing like a physical small box dumbass
>>550405985and now some tard is accusing everyone of being a jeet just what this general needsmore schizos
>>550407209>Clackclackclackclackclack *ding* *sshhhhhhkkkk*Is this unbeatable though.>>550407280Iphones are a terrible example
which romances are ideal for indians?
>>550407596indians don't understand romance or courtship as a concept they do arranged marriages
>>550407253Wait, is this just what slandered showed, but not sped up?
>>550407464>The camera alone on modern iphones absolutely blows out the old ones you fucking idiotIs this why you buy an iphone? for the camera?>>550407551It's the same shit as AI proponents who promise you miracles will be done in 5-10 years because technology is always evolving and improving and wait, this is still the same fucking shit apple sold a decade ago except marginally "better" in some technical aspects
After reading all the anti AI posts I can say with certaintyYou guys are fucking stupid lol like to the point you aren't even ready to discuss on how little you understand human nature and how everything is going to play out
>>550407596any fertile white woman will do, saar
After reading all the pro AI posts I can say with certaintyYou guys are fucking stupid lol like to the point you aren't even ready to discuss on how little you understand human nature and how everything is going to play out
>>550407596Which ones have rape?
>>550407725>this is still the same fucking shit apple sold a decade ago except marginally "better" in some technical aspectsI'm saying that's a terrible example because Apple clearly can just do "upgrades" but chooses to just dripfeed it because it lives on brand recognition. Things can be better, but why do that when people will just buy a marginal improvement.
I really want to like Yrliet (not romancing her). She has a great voice, and the times when she's not obsessed with other Eldar and raging at Monkeigh are nice, I especially enjoyed her meditation guide scene, but every time it goes back to her kin. In true elf fashion she really does only care about her own race. It doesn't help things that she is basically hallucinating that I haven't helped her every single time I had the chance to.
Personally I can't wait for this "women's voting" bubble to pop
>>550407725You buy it for a lot reasons and uh yeah kinda. It's really really nice to have an extremely high quality camera that shits on a lot of movie professional cameras in my back pocketI remember reading this schizo on pol going on about how something was fake because why would people have a camera at the readyNigga it was 2014 Everyone has one on them lolBut please Anon keep going on about ai can't possibly get better because "checks notes" people still make phones in phone shapes like only a decade after smart phones existYou really don't understand how little time actually passed since modern tech, have you? You act like we have been stuck using the same shit for decadesIt's been only like 15 years lol
>go look at new phones>the high end models are all approaching 90's cell phone level bulk again
>>550407596The ones where you creepily smile at a girl you go to school with and follow her home, never speaking to her but just smiling.I don't have the picture but an Indian on 4chan years and years before Indian hate became a thing said that this is how you "court" a girl in highschool.
>>550407970scratch that, gentiles shouldn't be able to vote, period
swen is such an edgelord
>>550407253I want to smooch Millicentillia
>>550407934>It doesn't help things that she is basically hallucinating that I haven't helped her every single time I had the chance to.I'm fairly sure this is a bugBecause I've had it happen when I know I've done everything But other times, exact same situation, she says >You've always done everything to help me. I've been such a bad ungrateful space elf :( so I think it's bugged
>>550407880almost like a certain industry that operates on the principles of cutting costs and being "good enough" to fool the consumer cattle who won't notice or care, hmm?
>>550408151I mean, Sir Lora was completely useless and is very liable to just die.>>550408078Nah, 3310s were peak comfy and it's not going back to that.
>>550407880If anything that reinforces his point. These companies aren't going to make better technology if they know that they can just keep selling this garbage and everyone will keep propping it up based on future potential that just isn't there.
>>550407864I hate AI but this is extremely impressive. It kinda missed the one fucked up eye though.
>>550407934>She has a great voice, >I especially enjoyed her meditation guide sceneThese are true But the writers had to ruin it with>every time it goes back to her kin.It's like they found it too hard to write more nice and engaging scenes so just used "muh crudarach muh kin" as filler. Unfortunate
So Kibellah is the only fertile owlcat romance?
>>550408347uh yeah, that literally the entirety of the tech industry, have you been sleeping under a rock for the past 40 years, ichabod
Ai Bros pack it upI know commerical robots are coming out soon but an anon said it's doomed because phones are still phone shaped
>>550408379Wouldn't take much to have it nail that, or get as many as you want that you can be picky about the details.
Could there actually have been a better way to permanently end the reaper threat in ME3 without some stupid mcguffin like the crucible? Retarded colored endings aside
brown hours - ai pictures, esl, waifuschizoing
>>550408427owlkek writers are probably paid by the word count like A. Dumas
>>550407864
>>550408705Alexandre Dumas more like Alexandre Dumbass
>>550408427>>55040793440k fags finding out how little depth 40k has in its setting Every race is just a cartoon with only 1-2 objectives forever
>>550407596kibbles. white girl whos their slave
>>550408628Don't be racist there are brown people in the future too look at dark heresy
>>550408079the druid from nwn2?
Sloppa’s good for fapping and memes
>>550408817Depth comes from characters and writers. "Settings" don't give you deep characters for free
>>550408552Leviathan could have been a part of the base game and the creatures could have used their intense psychic power to destroy the reaper horde as revenge for what was done to them. I dunno, I haven't played it in ten years, that's just the first thing I came up with.
>>550408508>he fell for it
>>550408876I remember starfield people seething because like 80% of humans were brown but lol only 8% of current day humans are white so of anything that was being generous
>>550408508Its the Yrlitard with named files
>>550408936I can dance on the head of a pin as well
>>550408998Chatgpt, are these numbers real?
>>550408998Now tell me the percentage of people who bought Starfield who are white.
solasta 2 will also sell 20 million copies
>>550408920Lol it's 40k every other character is just the stereotype of their race or occupation
>>550409024Hehe The tourists love that stuff
>>550408998>only 8% of current day humans are whiteIt's actually lower if you actually look into it. Americans aren't white.
>>550409201100% were White.
What's the least cucked romance in Kingmaker, WOTR and Rogue Trader?
Larian after near bankruptcy and making DOS2 and BG3 is the hungry boxer who trains everyday for a shot at gloryLarian after making BG3 is the lazy and arrogant champ who's going to get btfo by the next hungry challengerHard to wake up at 6 am when you're sleeping in silk sheets
>>550408552Yes, the different writing departments just needed to talk to each other. Shepard solved the major organic/synthetic dispute in the sidequests and the fact that the star child just said no is tonally inconsistent.Even if the crucible had to be in the game just have some of the geth come onboard and sacrifice themselves to deactivate the reapers or something. Without the crucible you'd have to do some victory at a heavy cost shit but with literally everyone united against them you eventually win.
>>550409201Idk probably an okay amount, white losers love Bethesda slop for whatever reasonYou have synthetic man screaming "how could this be, how could Bethesda let me down their biggest fan"Like why are we acting like they made a single good game lol>MorrowindLol
>>550409324post some swordhaven
>>550409316I can't wait until the entire industry looks like this because we replaced artists with the realismslop ai concept art ouroboros
>>550409006Not soI'm that Yrlitard and I just got here
>larianmike tyson>owlcatjake paul
>swordsomething shill is also the one using racist slursyikes
>>550408936Oh man we are so close to truly not being able to tell if something is real or not. Humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and we (I'm 32) happened to be born at the exact wrong moment in time where we got just a taste of the real world but then everything went exponential. Anyone who says they're glad to be able to live in this narrow window of huge change is a fucking bug that should be killed.
>>550409316Can you do the fem noble portraits as well?
>>550409207this tbqh
>>550408939Unfortunately leviathan would have never been a part of the base game because it was purely a post-hoc justification bioware came up with for their shitty writing.
>>550377526>Cucking>sith warrior's apprenticeI never played SWTOR. Was this actual cucking like with Neera?
>>550409316damn, jocasta fucked that?
>>550409491>not being able to tell if something is real or not.>thatsaar.............................
>solastaPeople keep saying this but I have no idea what it is
I knew ai haters were cooked when some Anon posted shitty sonic fanart next to obvious ai sonic art and anons were coping Well the shitty one has soul!True human soul!The ai one is erm soulless! Just for the Anon to reveal both were AI
/crpg/ is an anti-racist generalEvery racist should depart immediately.You. Are. Not. Welcome.
Post THAT sloppy webm of Cam, you know the one.
>>550409674its our favorite crpg
>>550409207Eh, I give it 2-3 Million.
>>550409724yes saar the aibros did the needful and btfo those meanies.Lets invest another billion into chatbots to celebrate.
>>550409790>>550409584>>550409137>>550408936>>5504087432-3 hours for a human3 minutes for a computer Buuuuuuuuut no I'm sure the billion dollar companies won't use it if reddit cries enough
>>550409642Dark side Jaesa fucks some trooper(s) while being drunk. Sith warrior didn't sound phased.Light side Jaesa is a purge virgin waifu with 2 sentence romance, +5 years late
>>550408817True and why only Warhammer I played was Vermintide 2. It was fun, but deep characters were not the goal.
>>550409894damn bro where are all the crpgs with ghibli style or realistic slop portraits my wallet is ready
>>550409316Looks like a character from that russian 'not40k' game. Highfleet or something
>>550409880The world is actually pouring billions into ai and it's practically the only thing preventing most of us from being put into a recession
Will the new KOTOR be a rpg or just another action slop?
>>550410016Highfleet is more precisely "not dune"
>>550408038>Harry, Harry, Harry...
>>550409992Who the fuck romances a Sith Slut anyways? Always go for Jedi Virgins.
>>550409432Don't be absurdThere couldn't possibly be more than one Yrlietard. She is almost universally hated.This very same Yrlietard is responsible for every heinous act that plagues this general.
Why do people say the normalfags won't care about AI slop because it will just be another normalized thing to them but the reaction on reddit (normalfag central) seems to be pretty negative
>>550410005You're too stupid to even understand how it would be used. Instead of texture and modeling artists working dozens of hours you just have ai generate small textures or models to stich together into one unique model or texture
>>550410223>>550409674I think it's a card game old Italian ladies play Similar to Bridge
>>550409353>but with literally everyone united against them you eventually winI doubt it, even with all the species sending the remaining ships and armies to earth they still weren't able to take the reapers above earth 1 on 1, they would have gotten obliterated once reaper reinforcements arrived
>>550410103Well, I haven't played it. I'm just saying that characters look similar
>>550409316Do Janris and fat noble
>>550410319Most predditors don't even know that half of the posters there are botsjust like here
>>550410327idk it felt like you were trying to make a point by quoting posts of ghibli slop but sure thing bro these textures or something
>>550407705indians literally wrote the kamasutra a book that teaches not only how to have sex but how to court different types of women yes it has entire chapters dedicated to stealing someone elses girl
>>550410319Reddit is still terminally online losersReal normalfags are on facebook or X
>>550410319Because AIfags don't consider the pricepoint and expectation.Nobody cares when a $30 game uses AI because it's a budget title and some cost cutting is expected. Nobody expects the industry's newest $80 AAAA title with $30 season pass dlcs to have any cost cutting. Premium products have premium expectations.
>>550410319People don't hold conviction. It's easier to say no when you don't have the option to buy and play it. Wait until rockstar says they use it divinity is out or whatever big game is hereCall of duty literally sells AI art now, and people still bought itIt's all about concessions that make things more and more normal
>>550410368Heh>>550410520>FacebookBoomers>TwitterBots and schizos
>>550408628It's euro-american hours though it's not yet morning in most of asia
Normalfags will eat up anything as long as it’s properly shilled.
>>550410657this is not european hoursthis is latino-american hours though
>>550408628>waifuschizoingthis goes on 24/7
>>550410443>>550409510Do it yourself lazy bones, it's literally uploading the image and saying "Make this in photorealistic style" or something.
>>550409992>>550410223>Dark side Jaesa fucks some trooper(s) while being drunk. Sith warrior didn't sound phased.Why not just romance the sex slave girl?>Light side Jaesa is a purge virgin waifu with 2 sentence romance, +5 years lateBioware is so cucked out that the pure option took 5 years to make.>>550397118Swen makes fun games. Like Todd used to make. I wish Starfield went back to Daggerfall/Oblivion style of generated dungeons with touchups instead handmade slop.
>>550409642Dark side Jaessa has sex with random strangers and troopers in airports as part of her "exploring newfound freedom" when she becomes a sith. Her dark side storyline is about her basically going off the deep end and going crazy.Light side Jaessa doesn't, she has a cute sweet romance.Kaylio also has sex with strangers during her romance. She invites randoms on board your ship and has sex with them without telling you. Not only is this a terrible thing to do, but it's also a security risk, since you're literally a super secret undercover spy, and random people walking around your ship is a security breach. But the game is clear about what kind of person Kaylio is long before this point, so you can't really feel sorry for the people who select multiple options to put themselves in this situation.Neither of these cases felt like the writer's poorly disguised fetish however. In both cases, you've already chosen multiple options and affirmed multiple times that you want to get involved with the wacko shitty psychopaths. I think this sort of thing is only "bad" if it's a surprise from the otherwise traditional romance options.
Bruh you guys were not fucking kidding with the Invisifans of Dispatch being fucking delusional. I've never seen a waifufag fanbase with their head buried in the sand deeper than these faggots.I mean, hell, they make Raszard look sane. Imagine that. Raszard looks reasonable compared to this band of fucks.Thank fuck I didn't even notice they had a general for the longest time, I've been there for like two days and I already feel my sanity slipping. You can't even talk about the game itself if what you mention might include something Invisigal did at all.
>>550410734>this is not european hourswell ruzzia is still technically european right?
>>550410430The crucible is literal space magic that makes ME relays not supernova when they blow up. They can write anything they want.>shepard comes inside harbinger and fills him with the combined will of the galaxy forcing them to fuck off.Fuck they could have even had TIM piloting harbinger like saren with sovreign in a full circle moment.
>>550410886Did they just copy paste Karlach?
>>550410886>visiting dispatch general why would you do that ?it's filled with homos and troonseven /v/ermin found that general to be too unlikeable
>>550410030Sounds like it's going to turn out well and isn't just a massive con
>>550409673I said close to, faggot. That picture is 90% of the way there.
This is Froggy's evidence that Space Marine 2 flopped since we are offtopic posting
>>550410591Ball and gun gamers aren't people.
>>550411023Yes Anon computers and the engine and flying machines were also just a fad
>>550410990more or lessshe is voiced by alannah pierce so her character doesn't sound good her ingame model is very sexy and people have been begging adhoc to make her a romancable girl in season 2 ( I don't think it's going to happen)
>>550410759>Bioware is so cucked out that the pure option took 5 years to make.It wasn't that, EA just cut funding almost immediately after the launch and thus class stories never really continued. Damn shame.The leaked dialogues are out there somewhere, I can't find them right now
>>550410990Yes and she's voiced by a woman who is in Boltgun 2! Boltgun 2 has a sister of battle player character, which is awesome. It's only a coincidence that she's the girlfriend of the guy who voiced the space marine player character in Boltgun 1.
>>550411057Idc about 40k shit It's gay and lame
>>550410843>I think this sort of thing is only "bad" if it's a surprise from the otherwise traditional romance options.The true cause of Valeriaposting and Shart bear memes.
>>550410886not a crpg no one asked
>>550411186I'll take your word for it. After Andromeda and Veilguard I know how Bioware ended up, but maybe it wasn't always so terrible.Aside from Jacob romance. Lel at Cuckqueans.
>>550410990I mean, she's just a generic red buff demon woman, it's hardly a novel concept even before Karlach. There are more inspired designs in the game.Her sword looks a bit like a dildo which is funny.
I'm in act 4 of WOTR. Should I go full minmax on the the graft and nocticula's gift or maintain my rp and keep my soul pure?
Does a Heretic Arbites make any sort of sense? Want to finally play a Heretic run of RT and it's the only class/playstyle I never really gave a shot.
>>550411646>I mean, she's just a generic red buff demon woman, it's hardly a novel concept even before Karlach.name 3 examples
>>550410886I was promised a game, not a VN with QT eventsI'll stay for her arms tho
>>550410886I checked it out...it's just shipping and coom. Why does this type of game even need a general? It's a game movie with a few variations
>Quetza TemerGET ME OUT GET ME OUT
>>550411932Uhhh.... Meru?>>550412008You must be new here. ddlcg still has a general. ksg still exists.
>>550411932Just put "red demon woman character" on google, you'll get enough examples to realize how stupid of a request that is.>>550411937Tbf the gameplay is fun... there's just not enough of it. At least there could be an endless mode for post-ending where you get random events.
>>550411767there is no heretic run. act 4, the worse unfinished act in that game and any owlcrap game, footfall and chaos marines portion is changed slightly. thats it - oh and some slideshow screens after the game ends because people eat that low effort shit up
>>550412008flavor of the month, do you realize how many people get all their tastes and opinions from the algorithm?
>>550412215Not new, just never interacted with those, ignored anything anime
>>550412008First telltale game?
>>550412008Doki doki literature club had a general and that was even less. Pretty much just a 2 hour movie with a single choice People on this website are actual genuine losers that crave a woman being into them like any normal man but can only get that out of a video game character soIt creates this situation of people being really into waifu shitYou're video game crush would choose someone over you if she existed btw
>>550412468Those tits are uncannily human. I can't jerk to this...
>>550412493So in practice outside of maybe /pol/ and /v/ there is little difference between this place and reddit/tumblr?
>>550412614Anon you cannot possibly think this is a big reveal to you.
>>550412614>outside of maybe /pol/ and /v/lmao
Can you guys please take frogschizo back he spammed and is spamming about Rogue Trader, BG3 and Veilguard in our general :(
>>550412493>People on this website are actual genuine loserstaken a look in the mirror recently? what makes you so better than the rabble that posts here?
>>550412614If anything /pol/ and its colony /v/ were the first reddit casualties.
>>550407934>basically hallucinating that I haven't helped herThis is a bug. It was supposed to be fixed once and for all in the last big patch There's a counter, CrudarachAeldariSaved, that keeps track of how many times you've helped her But sometimes it doesn't unlock and gets stuck on 0You can always manually set it to 3
>>550412614>outside of /pol/ and /v/Please lurkmoar
>>550412727>>550412810>>550412908They differ from tumblr/reddit on politics and rethoric heavily to be fair. Yeah ik the right leaning or classical lib redditors fled there after purges, but still a bit different, these other guys are 1:1
all the other generals i used to post are deadthis is general is the only reason for me to use this board
if Yrliet was real would she spam racist rhetoric on /pol/
uh..................cRPGs...?
>>550412747>about Rogue Trader, BG3 and Veilguard in our general :(In a general that's not /crpgg/?Is it... /twg/? Only general I can think he'd migrate to right now for any reason.
Thoughts on Arbitrators? I like the portrait so want to play one.
>>550413009Yeah, last thread a good chunk of it was him spam argung with anons, he also rages against 40K since TW:40K got announced.
>>550412747he was never our own and we never wanted him herehope that helps
>>550413094thank you for your sacrifice
>>550412614Yeah most people online are a loser, the average normie posts on Instagram not reddit or 4chan lolDon't fall for the 4chan maybe be racist but every "Anon is genuine and you get so many intelligent discussions "Lol no everyone is just as stupid as reddit.I actually do okay with woman I got sucked into this site around 2014 and you really can't leave. Now I'm not some giga Chad or anything but I get laid a fairly decent amount a year and every time I state the most normie bullshit possible like oh yeah my ex was ukrainian in some discussion about Ukraine and I just state why I was over there before the war. I will always have some Anon red in the face screaming im lying because its just incomprehensible to them that people do in fact have sex and not jerk off to anime characters
>>550413019Fun.
CRPGs that I plan to play in 2026 (in this order):Pathfinder KingmakerDivinity Original SinShadowrun DragonfallDragon Age 2
>>550412747I thought he hated RT
>>550413381your thoughts on them?
>>550413284>sextourists ittmaybe froggy is not that bad
>>550413284>every "Anon is genuine and you get so many intelligent discussions "You could on certain boards when the site was less popular. Now for every smart person you have 20 shizos/shitposters/morons>>550413383He does, he spams shit like >>550411968
>>550413381>First two have filters at the startGood luck, don't give up too quick.>>550413383He's very flexible in his opinions on whatever he's seething at.
CRPGs that I have played in 2025 and how I would rate them:Pillars of Eternity 8.5/10Tyranny 8.5/10Shadowrun Returns 8/10Dragon Age Origins 9/10
>>550413381I need to complete thaumaturge , persona V and KM
>>550413094Welp, I salute you guys o7I've been taking a break from /twg/ because the immense content drought had me bored and right now I'm playing other games, hope Froggy is gone by the time I reinstall a TW game.
>>550413284kys sex-haver
>>550413381Kingmaker and dos1 are both rough but I think they did a bigger job in laying the groundwork for the 2nd RPG golden age that just ended than pillars 1 did even though everyone kept giving that game the creditPillars 1 was just a member berries with the graphics, it had no staying power past that point
>>550413019Good origin. Not as good as psyker but still good
>>550413547>Pillars of Eternity 8.5/10Sawyer...
>>550413547What's your 10 so we can know what you're sizing them up against?Also I'm still butthurt that they abandoned Tyranny haflway through the story.
POST EM!Prove you are a Gamer (capital G)
>>550413284see this is why people don't like you humble bragging is bad too
>>550413795>Humble brag> I'm not a giga Chad but I do have relations with womenLol thanks for proving my point, you guys are so far gone you have no idea what normal is anymore
>>550413284>I HAVE SEX AND MY GF IS RUSSIANnot crpg
What cRPG characters would judge me for jerking off to anime waifus?
>>550397118Hate this cornball quote. And Swen is the man.
>>550414072Ex but it was hot when she moaned in Russian tho Da da da da da da papushka
>>550414202fucking traitor bitch how dare she moan in the oppressors language
I wanna smooch her.
>>550414128Pretty much all companions in Wasteland 3 will chastise you from sexing a robot/AI.
>>550413712>85% with controller
>>550413915We don't come to this website to have normal discussions, 4chan isn't like other social media where you get points for flexing about your personal life, it's anonymous for a reason
>>550414332>it's anonymous tell that to namefag, the second best /crpg/ and /bgg/ poster
>>550413712>>550414193>owlkeks>lariantardsGrim. This general would be better if we had more Solastachads.
>>550414202>papushkaThere is no such word in Russian
>>550414307another for the backlog
>>550414523Idk how you spell it Anon I only bothered to learn the like 20 words via duolingo but like пaпoчкa which from my understanding it's not normal to use it like English daddy prob solely for my benefit but she used it regardlessDidn't stop it from being hot
>>550403039>the graphics are good so its okay everything else is shitShouldn't you be in the COD general?
wizards are so pathetic
>>550414854Larian mog everyone else at interactivity.They just need better writing and romances.
I am so skilled at getting laid that I accidentally seduced Valerie.I swear that I didn't consent to such activities.
>>550405106Serious answer is probably DOS2 into DOS1 if you liked the second game (continuity doesnt matter they are set 1k years apart) into whatever old games you want to playDivine Divinity is good (but has some bad bugs from what I hear) Dragon Commander and Divinity II are also alright from what I hear but take that with a grain of saltI havent played these games from what you can tell but nobody else replied so I felt like sharing what I know
>>550414979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHN-ceEbonI
>>550414510There is like only 3 people in this general who have played solasta and one of them is the anon who's high 24/7 so he doesnt count. No one cares we are all waiting on dark heresy and more larian news.
>>550414853>which from my understanding it's not normal to use it like English daddyIt is. It has the exact same meaning
>>550415075Can confirm, I constantly mention Solasta without being asked but I've never played it nor will I ever play it (5e combat lmao)
>>550415075I'm waiting for Dark Heresy and more Expedtions news. Larian is whatever, they're ok, just not something I look forward to
I'VE BROKEN A NAIL!!!
>>550405106Unironically play it backwards. DOS2 is very playable and funDOS1 has a rough filter at the start in Cyseal since you are encouraged to talk around first before you start fightingDragon Commander should be played on the easiest difficulty and you'll just be playing it like a VN. Very fun characters thoughDivinity 2 is fun if you like hack and slash. Pretty bog standard for the time.No idea about Beyond.Same with Divine.
I am planning to purchase the complete Solasta collection once the Steam sale begins.
I like the divinty games because I can feel the unionic soul in them, I feel like the dev just wanted me to have fun and that really just sweeps a lot of the issues under the rugI liked the humorI liked the diablo lootI liked tight maps with norandom encounters and set spawns I like the classless character buildingI have a good time playing divinity even the bad games like beyond Bg3 was like this shift of too serious too routine you couldn't even make crafted shit like putting nails on your shoes like the previous two games anymore Bg3 is a snore, it became like every other crpg
This is not a shitpost but feel free to treat it as such, which crpg has the best food mechanics?
>>550415430Underrail is the only game I can think of were some builds require you to constantly eat.
>>550415430Deadfire, cooking actually matters a lot and finding ingredients plays a big part of it. I feel like it's rather "basic" in the Pathfinder games. OS2 had tea cheesing by endgame but that's a different thing entirely
>>550405106DOS2. It's by far the best game in the entire series. If you like it you could consider playing Dragon Commander and Divinity 2. DOS1 is also OK but it's not as good as
Anyone playing Swordhaven? It released today. I loved the demo, actually I stopped playing it around getting into that town because I knew I'd buy it.
>>550415579>Deadfire, cooking actually matters a lot and finding ingredients plays a big part of it. is it fun or tedious? thanks for the answer
Ok, dolly smooching experts, can you smooch dollies in Hogwarts Legacy?
>>550415638Never even heard of it until today, man I wish more CRPG devs invested in fucking PORTRAITS. I seriously cannot get excited for a CRPG if they don't even do that.
>>550415638I fucking hated Atom so I'll wait for a sale. Does this one have as many memes?
Divine divinity is an unionic gem, it has some nasty quet blockers and kind of a bitch to get working on modern hardwareDef could use a big 1/2 ee versionBut 10/10 ostFun gameplay of just diablo liteReally memorable side questingOkay main quest that does what it needs to do until act 3 shits the bed, the larain stapleI genuinely think if it has a bit more polish and came out under interplay with the ad money that would have came with it would be remembered as an RPG classic
>>550415756>funNot really, it's more on you find a recipe, see it can give you great buffs and you use it. I suppose if you're into finetuning builds and such it can be good.>TediousNot really, the ingredients are fairly common and you can often find them in odd places. Or steal them.
>>550415579One day they might make cooking look as delicious as it is in Kamitani games
>>550415579Didn’t the kickstarter also come with a cookbook
I wanted to like Tyranny because of its cool concept and opening but the first couple of hours have SO MUCH READINGI dont even dislike reading in crpgs but the disfavored camp is literally like 2 hours of dialogue I just slumped down in my chair, quit and never looked back again
Why are there no other Disco Elysium-likes?
Barik smells like shit.
>>550415579>cooking actually matters a lotI agree, especially in light of the fact that hp and spell slots are no longer a mechanic and you can go as long as you'd like without restingBut food was also important in the first game
>>550416212I never seen footage past the first 3 hours of de so I'm going to assume most of the mega fans never actually played the whole thing. I mean I didn't either I dropped that shit bored out of my mind lol
>>550415756Like anon says, it's basically just kind of "there". You always have the option to make a plain meal on resting, so it isn't obtrusive. I only remember myself planning for certain meals once or twice, but if I recall it was situationally pretty helpful.There's also one of the modes where ingredients can go bad over time, if you're into that sort of thing. I do like that sort of thing, but getting rid of the rotten food was a chore so I don't think I'd recommend it.
>>550416212your Dark Heresy bro?
>>550415815That game is actually shit. Like ignoring the controversy it’s a magic school game where nothing happens in the fucking magic school
Lol pillars pillars pillars where optimal barbs max int and optimal mages max strength What were you thinking joshy
>>550415815Erm chuddy it’s a SCHOOL, what are you, a PEDOPHILE?????????
>>550416483I unironically got filtered by it. Still haven't gone back. Also Obshitdian needs to add controller support like Owlchads and Lariangods if they want me to play their CRPGs.
>>550413712I pirate all my games
>>550416483>let's make an interesting system where all stats actually matter for all classes and require you to thinkAnd it continues to filter people to this day, SAD!and it keeps
>>550416483Those aren't "optimal" just viable alternatives. Honestly it was refreshing after so much of building every single fighter/rogue/wizard/etc almost exactly the same as every other one.Muscle Wizard in Pillars is for sure one of my favorite crpg experiences.
>>550416925>it was refreshingno it wasn't, kill yourself Josh
>>550416925It's just a wizard but deals like 20% more damage and just awkwardly does all the heavy lifting in the choose your own adventure book scenesIt makes no sense and very video games. Might as well been renamed to damage increase and int to spell scaling
>>550416683>controllertard got filteredit writes itself, there's nothing I even need to add>>550417024Quality discussion, nice work here's a (You) for ya, kid.
>>550416483Why do you keep posting this even though you know it’s not true. Are you perhaps shitposting
>>550416808straight up asking for correction
>>550417105>lil bro is fuminguh oh, Josh didn't like those posts LOL
I fucking hate pillars Deadfire tries so hard to be a wacky interesting game but the only time I baseded when I was bored out of my mind in the epic lesbo pirate city with its epic Caribbean YAAAAAS queen culture and stumbled onto a generic dnd dragon
>She was walking the snarl of gantries overlooking Block-D, which housed a sweeping expanse of storage vats. Vita Ephemera swirled languidly in the open-topped containers below, churned by fans to prevent it from congealing. It was all coarse grey gloop, still awaiting processing into the garbage her masters passed off as food. Siphoning pipes protruded from every vat, connected to testing stations above. Part of her job was to conduct regular hygiene checks on the stock. While the company’s nutritional standards were pitiful, actually poisoning its consumers wouldn’t be profitable.>We might kill them, Chel reflected, but we’ll do it slowly.>During the day the refinery would be packed with labourers, which was why the company had her working nights, tucked away while production went on. Other than a couple of watchmen she was alone in the complex. But she didn’t feel alone now. In fact she felt crowded, as though the place were teeming with unseen people.>Not people. Not any more.>Chel halted and gazed down at the grey pools, studying them with an honesty she’d never allowed herself before. This place was haunted, but its shades weren’t true ghosts. They were too diffuse and degraded for that, their spirits dissolved alongside their bodies, blended into an aggregate spectral sludge.>Processed like sewage.>Once she accepted the truth she began to see the dead, swirling through the gloop in tides of distended, melded faces and groping hands. They were hollow-eyed and hopeless, bereft of sense or sanity, yet suffering all the same. It wasn’t just flesh and blood the city recycled and shovelled into its poor.>We’ve turned them into soul-eaters.Grimderp ""lore"" that will be present in Dark Heresy
>>550417264Pillars made me think that CRPGs were dead for a reason. DOS2 and Kingmaker made me realize that it was just Obsidian that were shit and CRPGs were still just as based as the old days.
The ideal amount of party members is:
Imagine spending so much time to post a novel noone will ever read
>>550417484The entire roster.
>>55041748454 is too few and 6 i do really honestly feel like I just have an extra guy just doing whatever I prob lean towards 4 just because less inventory juggling Most of the reason I prefer lone wolf in dos is just for that lol
>>5504174845, it's also the ideal number for a harem
>>5504174844for obvious reasons
Obsidian never recovered from firing Avellone. You might not like hearing this but it's the truth.
>>5504174844
>>5504174845-6 is the sweetspot.
>>550417484Ideal party size for CRPGs is 6.Ideal party size for JRPGs is 4.Ideal party size for DRPGs is 5.
>>550417853Holy based.
2026 is looking like a great year for CRPGs.
>>550417478Yeah pillars is pretty bad it only exists for people who barely remember playing bg1 to go woah it's like that one thing I played when I was 10Theirs just no fun. Everything is so deathly serious and up its own assIt's uniorionically peter griffin it insists upon itself, it think it's so much more important than it is.I could imagine devs behind pillar waiting for people to make video essays about its deep themes blah blah blah
>>550418112I think it's moreso that that game just feels obtuse. WotR is also an ultraserious game but I found it way more engaging to get into than Pillars ever was.
>>550416570>he never smooched his classmates in schoolAnd that's why you're here
>>550418305>that that game just feels obtuse.In what way mr shitposter?
How long was RT in early access? Can we expect Dark Heresy to launch next year?
>>550418112I enjoyed it a lot, when it released and also in a recent replay. I don't really get the connection to bg1, you could say that about many crpgs, since it is really the grandfather in a lot of ways.Didn't feel the way you do about the tone and setting, I thought the world was interesting.I'm not sure what it is about Pillars that makes certain anons start frothing, it's a weird phenomenon.
>>550418305>WotR is also an ultraserious gameNo it isn't.
>>550418450Maybe around november/december at the earliest
>>550418112Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>550418442Lots of proper nouns. Prose is extremely fucking dry and unengaging, feels like reading an encyclopedia rather than a novel.Companions are also extremely dull.
>anons love shittalking sawyer, but the second someone shittalks Pillars all hell breaks looseCurious
>>550418536>entire first act is fighting through a hellscape of demons>you don't even get to relax until 3 acts in???
can you point out exactly where the hell is breaking loose, anon
>>550418765Both Avellone and Sawyer are regulars in /crpg/, not sure what is your point
>>550418765Yes? The creator is not the game and vice versa. Are you having trouble separating those?
SHEEEEIIIIT YOU MUST HAVE LOST YO DAMN MIND
But what's the non-schizo/shitposter truthful measure of Sawyer as a figure in CRPG history?
I like pillars and I don't even think about it as much as these freaks. It lives rent free in their heads.
>>550415318
>>550418765Have you considered that the sawyer posting is the same retard shitposting
>>550418920The macrocosm might be serious but your party starts off with a woman who's barely keeping herself in check, a wisecracking black woman, a wise cracking abomination and bootlick. Unless you're somehow playing solo, your companions will easily cut through any tension.
Pillars is bad Someone post the 3page essay to explain a generic rat attacking the players because lol it's not up its own ass
Pillars justs falls into the trap of every nu-rpg. Pillars 2 especially is that extremely cringe modern Toddslop style of letting you work for every single faction so you have access to all the content instead of actually bothering to make a coherent roleplaying game by making things mutually exclusive. Like half the faction missions has you slaughtering other factions but they're completely ok with that somehow?
But what's the non-schizo/shitposter truthful measure of Sven as a figure in CRPG history?
did the game make him feel like a dummy, maybe? And that's why he thinks about it so much and gets so angry about it?
consider spoilering this ugly pale ghoul of a man
>>550419353He will be remembered as the TurnBASED messiah who ushered in the golden age of CRPGs
>>550419353He just made a bunch of games that did supbar but kept at it to see his vision and company make it though and is now on the top of the worldIt's weird people glaze other people online like they are friends but it's more admirable than most stories
>>550419353Is it me or does Sven look kinda sickly?
>>550419328>. Like half the faction missions has you slaughtering other factions but they're completely ok with that somehow?This is only true for the endgame and it's blatantly signposted that maybe bombing an entire city block is going to cause issues. You can't "game" all the factions if they're going to be mutually exclusive.>>550419353He's proof that working on something for decades CAN pay off. Up to you if you think 2 decades of pouring over something is worth it.
>>550419562that's just how germanics look
>>550419405It might be immanent
>>550419535if we're going to consider their record Larian churned out some really dogshit games like Diablo clones that are not worth mentioning unless you want to embarrass themwhat vision?
>>550419328Did you play deadfire? You can’t do every faction quest like that and the game does have reactivity for if you’ve been helping out multiple factions.
>>550419682Most of the games Larian made were to keep the lights on
>>550419353>>550419562>dat skinwalker stareyt people just ain't right
>>550419852exactly they were trying to keep the lights on, it wasn't some noble sticking to their vision
>>550419682Nah I like divine divinty a lot and the rest are fine. I played worse but what's your goal here anonJoshy meltdown, imagine being backed by a billion dollar company like Microsoft and your best effort is avowed lolThan pretending dos2 with crowd funding somehow had it easier
>>550419971I admire the fortitude desu. He basically didn't get to make what he wanted until Original Sin.
>>550419353The fuck is that white stuff on his mouth? Was he sucking cock right before the shot or something?
>>550419979>Sawyer out of nowhereah you're a tribal idiot you thought I was pitting my favorite dev man against your favorite dev man
>>550420084I noticed that too, it's more like rabies desu.
It's the age of the euro RPG devsThe last true decent American RPG that made any kind of footnote in history was Skyrim. A long time ago
>>550420084If your cum looks like that you need to see a doctor
rtwp bros...
>>550420257What does your cum look like bro?
>>550420084Swen is not actually a human.
>>550420259>6 minutes 45 seconds for something that is summarized in the thumbnail
>>550419979Hey quick question can you tell me who the director for avowed was?
>>550420254Avellone was singlehandedly carrying all american CRPGs on his back
>>550420327kys gale
HOT TAKE I don't care about Avowed and I doubt Josh even had much of a role in it
>>550397118Larian has never made good art, they make fun braindead games that are fun because they're dumb. It was obvious they were gonna use AI
>>550419353he gives his female characters hairy pussies which makes him our great savior
>>550420547Sawyer...
>>550420332Correct, he's actually a lizardman which is why he's propagating lizard sex. The reptile cabal is real people. OPEN YOUR EYES
>>550420540Pentiment is the only game he’s made since Deadfire
>>550420949Pillars and Pentiment are actual vision games that didn't try to chase the money by doing something familiar that would mean $$$ so in a way Sawyer is a much more honest if less successful dev
>>550421525Pentiment, fine that's probably true but Pillars? Really?>Not doing something familiarReally?
>>550421632literally tried to reinvent the wheel and rebalance attributes and rtwpdidn't work but it was good effort
>>550421525Pillars was a kickstarter game, really a lot of the problems in that game were fulfilling all the silly obligations they promised for it even though they were stupid and didn't fit right
>>550421632Pillars was a pure passion project. CRPGs were a dead fucking genre when they pitched it.
>>550421707>reinvent the wheelHow?>rebalance attributesIt's still the same %boosts to skills but now INT is just MGT. People focus on this way too much. The only time it just looks weird is on Barbs since you want high INT for longer rages, which doesn't make sense.
>>550421707The big failing was they didn't provide a big drawback for dump stats and inadvertently created a bigger min/max problem than any D&D system.
The failure of Pillars of Eternity 2 really hurt Sawyer's heart.
A Navy Arch Militant seems kind of busted. Basically parried and counter attacked this guy to death.
>>550420084Family guy skit about how old people get white stuff in the corners of their mouth
>>550421903the fuck are you talking about? It's literally exactly opposite of that. Every class makes use of every stat. The only stat I've heard people refer to is Resolve, but that gives Deflection, not being interrupted, and Will as well as some dialogue options.
>>550422043Yes they made them busted with the update.
>>550422010If we’re writing Sawyer fanfic can he and Swen kiss at the end?
>>550422043>navyDid they change something? I don't remember it being anything special
>>550422086Anon your meta dps builds are just dump resolve because damage dealers should never take hits.>but all stats are neededAll stats but resolve.
>>550421707>reinvent the wheelThis is such a retarded take, every wizard build being a muscle wizard because of their retarded stat system is stupid. Every barb build being a hyperintelligent one is also dumb as fuck.At least in DnD, muscle Wizard actually made sense since you were increasing both your STR and INT instead of tying it all into one stat like a min-maxed tard. INT logically tying to things like learning skills, spellbook memorization or maneuvers for combat actually made sense.If anything, Pillars stat system is significantly shitter than DnD. Might being a "force multiplier" stat yet being used for STR checks in dialogue. INT increasing your AOE for some reason (how exactly?).Josh saw a supposed problem (dump stats) and had zero understanding of why they exist.
I like how every pillars discussion just devolves into one retard screaming over everyone else about intelligent barbs
>>550422189The ending is when they make a good game.
>>550422532Cope Josh
>>550414128Jimmy
>>550422392>every wizard build being a muscle wizard>Every barb build being a hyperintelligent oneGenuinely can't tell if you're trolling or just retarded. Either way, you're retarded I suppose.
I've still never played Deadfire, how does it compared to Pillars 1?
They really underutilized resolve, especially since it gives the best conversation options.
>>550422726better than Pillars 1, still shit tho
>>550422726Main quest has a pacing issue, you're supposedly racing the clock but also running around adventuring. Other than that though I think it's quite good, some changes for better or worse. For example they added Penetration, moved spells and abilities to per encounter, and you can multiclass, but you have to decide to from the beginning.One cool thing is that when you take on a companion, you can choose between 2-3 class options for them. I'd like to see more of that.Ship combat sucks, better to just ram and board.
>>550422943I played a deflection riposte build with that one giant greatsword in deadfire and still dumped resolve because it barely mattersYou need so much of it for it to actually have a noticeable affect.
>>550422943It also stops you from being interrupted and contributes to Will.
>>550422726nicer visualsawful main plotunlikable factionsfewer companionsi liked sailing and upgrading the ship though
>>550422254They have this now, which is a really good match with Arch Militant.
>>550421790Yeah a passion project he collected donations for, and made a tidy sum
>>550424132>game developer sells gamewow
>>550422392>Josh saw a supposed problem (dump stats) and had zero understanding of why they exist.They are a problem though. The problem with dump stats isn't that they happen to reward specialization a little bit too well, but because the opportunity cost of dumping multiple attributes almost never comes into play in game when you compare them to the sheer upsides. Sawyer had the right idea that dump stats aren't a problem if every stat is useful on every character in some way or another, it's just the execution itself that went about it all wrong.
>>550424517I wouldn't say it went about it all wrong. Sure Might/Int are a bit iffy but that's really just a naming thing, and I'm not convinced of Resolve being a dump stat. Getting interrupted sucks, failing Will saves often really sucks, and lower deflection will get you targeted more and cause you more pain, and more interrupts as well.I enjoyed the system a lot, though I have only replayed 1, not 2 yet.
PoE1 has no dump stats unless you're minmaxing a specific build and need to squeeze the most out of your primary stat.
grug defend thesis
>>550425286Which is unnecessary to do, even on PotD
>>550424961>Sure Might/Int are a bit iffy but that's really just a naming thingIf anything, my problem is that Might isn't *suppose* to be Strength at all (even though its been pointed out that Might is used in physical based checks, but I digress), but a flat damage stat instead. It would at least be interesting if they leaned into the "muscle wizard" fantasy more, but at best its only paid a tiny bit of lip service in some obscure piece of trivia instead.
>Dec 16>No Dark Heresy alpha in sightOwlcat scammed us again, bros
I do not give a flying FUCK about solasta 2.
>>550426053this but Underrail
>>550426049Simply go to darkheresy.owlcat.games/refunds
>explode a blue horror with pyro explosion>Kibellah gets set on fire coz she was near>Orchestrate Flames and medkit her to keep her alive>suddenly her blade dances are doing an extra 70 fire dmg a hitwtf? this is op as shit? her blade dance normally does like 10-15 dmg each hit
>>550426303>this is op as shit?That's pyrodancer for you
Muscle Wizards are a valid archetype
>>550425938Just having different flavour text for feats of magic/strength would fix itI think that's what athletics is generally used for but someone doing dialogue obviously didn't get the memo
>>550426303Now imagine what it was like before the nerf
>>550426923Did japs ever make a crpg?
I'd make Idira swallow
What was the point of making idira black?
>>550427827she's cuter like that
>>550427827I thought she was a pajeeta
CONSPIRACY THEORY! Mishulin has a negro woman fetish and thats why there not romanceable but added into all of her games, no one touched her waifus but her.
>>550426990>Just having different flavour text for feats of magic/strength would fix itI don't think you understood my criticism. I actually WANT Might to be physical strength, not some vague conglomerate of physical/spiritual prowess that arbitrarily represents one or the other depending on your choice of class.
>>550427916The very obvious Jamaican accent didn't tip you off?
I think Idira > doctor lady in DHpity she wasn't romanceable
Underrail already solved this by making INT=spell slots and technical skill, WILLPOWER=magical strength.
nobody played Underrail
This is the crpg general we only play larain and owlcat games here and nothing else because they are the only two studios that matter.
Does this work on Psyker powers?
>>550428494Yes.
>>550428443Disco Elysium is a crpg
>>550428261Underrail is literally min-max autism: The game.
>>550428602ty
>>550428701>needing to min/max to beat underrail You might just be bad at videogames.
Will the next RT DLCs add anything to the main story or just side quests?
Underrail isnt even hard its just that games have gotten so dumbed down and stupid a game thats a solid B+ tier in difficulty is to much for the average gamer. To imply underrail is a legitimately hard game anywhere near on par with something like an old school dungeon crawler is insane.
Once solasta 2 comes out im probably leaving this general for a bit, solasta fags are insufferable.
Adventurequest is my favorite CRPG
I am not playing codex autism the game
>>550429401Solasta 2 will OWN this general and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>550428094With how dnd has a million fucking >you use this stat instead of that stat for this combat check but they're functionally identical why not just roll "might" into one stat
>>550429389for me, it's princess gravelyn
>>550428778>>needing to min/max to beat underrailThe game supports it, and encourages it even. Diffused builds simply don't make sense in a game like Underrail. Seethe and cope.
>>550429576Honestly anon Solasta 2 lost me with that trailer.I wanted them to make more than a combat sim but they've gone the completely wrong direction and seemingly given us Clair Obscur: Solasta 2.
>>550429864so you admit yourself you dont need to min/max you just like making up shit to seethe about.
strength and constitution should be merged because con boils down to being meat points in over 90% of games, and its totally illogical to be super strong but not at least durable.
>Clair Obscur meets dndSolasta 2? Crpg of the century.
>>550429961No, I said its a game that encourages min-maxxing insofar the game is shallow enough to hyper reward it, retarded serb tranny faggot.
>>550430051irl strongmen explode if they move slightly the wrong way.
>>550430102what lovely feet
>>550430220>the game is shallow enough to hyper reward itNo it doesnt
>>550430249Unironically the best character.
>>550430228okay that's fair honestly. at the same time though, more mass still objectively makes you more durable, and constitution tends to conflate endurance and durability together.
>>550427916>>550428103I thought she was from Space Democratic Republic of the Congo
>>550430379>No it doesntYes it does, and I can literally prove it by going on the wiki and pulling up the page for the attributes right now.
>>550430576hilarious. and it was very obviously a west indian accent.
>>550429301If it makes you feel better. I've never played Solasta.
>>550427983Mishulin has a special private version of each game where the black girl is smoochable.
>>550430602Meds
Surely if we just add cutscenes to our mediocre 5e combat sim people will like it. Roleplaying? What the fuck is that?
>the solasta coping has already started
>>550430705Seethe.But go ahead and go over 5 STR on your pistol build, like it means anything.
>>550430895You know your pistol build doesn't need to be min/maxed to beat the game right?
>>550431000Now you're just moving the goalposts.
Dump stats are a good thing. Seethe and cope Josh.
>>550431078How? What about maxing certain stats better for certain builds is "encouraging min/maxing"
>>550431378>being a dysgenic autistic savant is... GOOD
If your game has dump stats you might as well not even have stats
>>550431570Stfu sawyer
Stats and class should be fixed depending on which version of the game you buy?
>>550431481yes
>they were once CRPG developers
>>550431431>How? That you pretend Underrail isn't a game that explicitly rewards a player for minmaxxing and leaning super heavily on a single build concept. Note that I could address you in bad faith, and say its impossible to beat the game without min-maxxing. It isn't necessarily true that you have to min-max to bet Underrail since I've seen people beat the game on Dominating with complete meme builds, but exceptions tend to prove the rule. >What about maxing certain stats better for certain builds is "encouraging min/maxing"The game is too simple, so there's no incentive to have more even stat spreads compared to these lop-sided arrays where you hyper-focus on one or two attributes and neglect most of the others, leaving some at arbitrary thresholds for the purpose of meeting feat requirements while dumping everything else. There is no reason to stray from your main weapon of choice when you can just dump all of your feats on one weapon and perform far better for it either. It's a game where the more you lean into doing *one* thing, you are far, far stronger than a character that elects to do two things, and so on and so forth.
>a game let's you dump a stat if you want to but you still dont have to?>AAAAIIIIEEEE IM GOING INSANE
>>550432646>>a game let's you dump a stat if you want to but you still dont have to?It should mean something if you do, though. Why is this so hard to understand?
>>550432870>It should mean something if you do, thoughit doesn't in poe tho
>>550432591>you can beat the game using shitty meme builds on the hardest difficulty and pretty much buold whatever the fuck yoy want b-b-but it still encourages min/maxingLmfao
>>550432564+1 good post
>>550433078>no argumentI mind broke you, serbtroon.
I can never understand how to build my characters in Pillars because you basically need every stat
>>550433310Explain to me how a game can be beat using any shitty meme build you want but also heavily encourages min/maxing.
>>550433420just put it on easy and right click the combat, it's a bad game anyway, just treat it like a VN
>>550415638nice buying rn I really liked Atom despite the jank
Being a tribalistic retard about a genre that gets like maybe one good game a year if that is hilarious
>>550433560I'm convinced you might be retarded if you think my criticism of Underrail has anything to do with its difficulty, which usually boils down to understanding the range of your weapon, knowing how to abuse LoS, plus a good bit of trial and error, and not the surface level character building. This may sound paradoxical to you, but even simplistic games can heavily reward minmaxxing regardless of difficulty. Take Baldur's Gate 3, for example. It's actually a game where attributes are so irrelevant (due in large part to the nature of the d20's flat distribution + bounded accuracy) that every character plays exactly the same, so you might as well focus on what matters the most (combat).
>>550434442>but even simplistic games can heavily reward minmaxxingRather, reducing the severity of dumping stats, that is.
>>550433420It's a vibes thing.
>>550434442I was shit posting but you are a unironic sawyer fag, never mind keep being retarded pillars is ass and INT barbarian will forever be shit game design.
>>550435230I never played Pillars of Eternity in my life. I don't think I'd like it because it forgot to flavor the attributes.
>>550435230>pillars is ass and INT barbarian will forever be shit game design
>>550434442Underrails attributes do heavily effect the gameplay however.
I told Argenta to shoot IdiraI feel guilty and had to close the game
>>550435320The attributes are actually well flavored. While D&D systems are mechanically separated meat loaded with sodium, pillars is a home made 5 course dinner. Some people just can't get over a barbarian having int, which they'd have in D&D anyway because barbarians made good skill monkeys.
>>550435370Oh I'm more than aware, I've been arguing this whole time Underrail character building boils down to predictable stat arrays that leaves little room for experimentation. I was addressing his strawman that min-maxxing has anything to do with difficulty, and not a mere quirk/failure of game design to grant those character choices the gravitas it rightfully deserves.
>divinity confirmed as turn based>which also confirms it's a crpg Have doubters ever been btfoed so quickly before?
>>550433420Just put a bit in every stat and the most in whatever you want your character to focus on the most. None of the stat boosts for stats are actually that huge. Per and dex are important for pretty much everyone in Deadfire. Might is less important than you'd think for most martial classes because they're already getting so many damage boosts.
>>550435712>Underrail character building boils down to predictable stat arrays that leaves little room for experimentation. Explain two thays true if you can beat the game using any shit meme build you want on the hardest difficulty.
Is there an actual ranking on CRPGs? I know Owlcat and Larian are the kings of the genre but who's in third place? Are there any other devs in the space I should be keeping an eye on?
>>550421707>didn't work but it was good effortIt did work and was very fun though anon
>>550435936>It did work and was very fun though anonFuck off Sawyer
>>550435552Makes sense. It's better for everyone if she lives, especially Argenta.
>>550435812Explain to me how every stat is>le usefulin Underrail when the main strat is to dump Con and run behind walls for cover, or pumping Will for the sake of Persuasion/Resolve is a complete waste of your skill points? Maybe it's because Underrail is a shallow game.
>>550436117*or how pumping Will for the sake of Persuasion/Resolve is a complete waste of your attributes
Did they seriously make Solasta 2 combatslop again? Also why are they so obsessed with 5e? It's the worst fucking videogame ruleset.
>>550436117>in Underrail when the main strat is to dump Con and run behind walls for cover, or pumping Will for the sake of Persuasion/Resolve is a complete waste of your skill points? You can literally beat the game as an unkillble tank though?
>>550436432Yeah, and you can give yourself 18 Will to be a psionic master, but that's not the point. Generally making the choice to put a single point into Constitution is, as you imply, contingent on whether or not you'll go full on tin can, and not because its a sensible idea to have some soaking ability for your average character.
>>550398997I just want another mass effect
>>550436615>not because its a sensible idea to have some soaking ability for your average character.There are a ton of melee builds in underrail that require a little con though?
People itt schizo out about sawyer more than they've ever actually talked about a real video game
Sawyer x Yrliet
>>550437285Yrliet would become frustrated by Sawyer's rejection of intimacy.
>>550437285i could see a woman like yrliet being the reason for sawyer's attitude towards romance
>>550437821Sawyer is definitely the type to defend and support his “platonic” girlfriend for years, then ultimately split up because they were finally forced to admit that they weren’t in love with each other
>>550437285Sawyerliet
>>550437939I suspect Sawyer is the "I like to watch" sort
>>550435726All this did was confirm I will never play it. Who the fuck wants to waste their time with another crpg Divinity after having played DOSII and bg3? I’ve seen enough, and the WEG shit in the trailer was disgusting
>I suffered... indignities.
>>550435726Get ready for Divinity 33, they will be shifting the game’s design.
>>550437285>elantach, why do you refuse to meditate with me? I want to feel your soul within mineSorry Yrliet, I don't want to play into your masturbatory fantasy
>>550438589Sorry solasta 2 is going to be clair obscure meets bg3 and probably be crpg of the decade btw.
being an anorexic little girl with MAX INT and CHA is pretty fun however being a Baki-tier inebriate with MAX STR is also pretty fun INTbarbarian just screams insecurity tho. Yjk some wizard-obsessed nerd wanted to act out his grug smash fantasies but couldn’t dream of not passing every Arcana/Perception/INT check. YJK the lore justification is something like “Grenshal Ugronomous III was born the fifth son of a great wizarding dynasty…gifted with great intellect but denied his inheritance, Grenshal adopted the nickname “Grug” and set out to the Bloodlands as a mercenary. 10 years later, the dreaded “Grug” is now the strongest man alive, more force of nature than human being, but his raw power is matched only but the glimmer in his piercing blue eyes…”and yjk he carries a stack of Magic Missile
>unrionically liking solasta You havent played more than 5 crpgs.
>>550439508>INTbarbarian just screams insecurity thoIts alright if you dump WISThen you can larp as the emperor of mankind
More crpgs should bring back gesalting its really fun in black geyser.
>>550439797This is a owlCHAD aka a multiclassing general.
>>550439952>multiclassingyou didn't beat kingmaker/wrath of the righteous
>>550436409bro the point of solasta is to make a 5e crpgyou can argue forever if it is a good idea or not but that was the goal
Something seems to be bothering Carth. Maybe you should speak to him and see if you can get him to open up about it
Do you think Dark Heresy will mog Rogue Trader like how WotR did Kingmaker?
>>550440841Nah it's a more boring settingAnd WotR didn't mog anything
>>550440841i had more fun as johnny kingmaker innawoods than knight-nepo chasing his mommy
It's over.
>>550440841Sorry bro we're in the phase where we pretend kingmaker wasn't a fucking mess now
When does divinity original sin 1 get good? Is the second one better, and how do they compare to BG3?
>>550441969DOS2 is MASSIVELY better than the first. DOS2 and BG3 are pretty similar in quality although obviously BG3 has way higher production values in cutscenes.
>>550442131Okay, so I gotta just kind of grind through the main parts of DOS1 as quick as possible?
Are there many race specific dialogue choices in DOS2? Torn between elf for the gameplay benefits and female lizard because I like how they look. Lizards are slave owner dickheads so I gather they would have more fun dialogue options, if they have them.
>>550442193Do whatever you want. The games aren't really related to each other. I never finished DOS1, gave up about halfway through. Played DOS2 for 500 hours though.
>>550442193Or stop playing
expanse will give you pivotal decisions such as choosing between having a gay son or a slut daughter
>>550442298Red Prince origin probably has the best dialogue in the game although you lose him as a companion so...
>>550442438What causes a person to think this is funny?
>>550442438>I don't like them! Die!
>>550442474birth year beginning with 2
>>550441969>When does divinity original sin 1 get good?When you leave the first town and start exploring Cyseal proper
>>550441876will it be delayed again?
>>550396774>3.92 MBWhat did he mean by this?
>>550442438so sosiel or camellia?
The best part of Larian's games aren't the combat, it is how they integrate crpg gamplay with immersive sim elements
>>550442447It should've been red princess origin
>>550442682Classic trap of dragging the mouse over everything
Don't Inquisitors have higher authority than even Rogue Traders? Calcazar and Heinrix are allowed to order you around from what I remember. Or is that only special Inquisitors?Wondering what our "power level" in Dark Heresy will be.
my favorite part of rogue trader is my dogmatic human companions and going around doing the bidding of an inquisitor
>>550442447I have heard he’s also the best companion in the game, so I would rather not lose him.
>>550442845It's pretty vague. Both inquisitors and rogue traders have a commission directly from the emperor so they're not really in a hierarchy. It comes down to which of you has a stronger power base. Calcazar is pretty much running on the fumes of the goodwill of the various rogue traders.
>>550442931>I have heard he’s also the best companion in the game,His quest gives the most exp but he is kind of a dick and helping him with his quest is kinda "cucked". You sorta just hang around while he is doing his own thing, like a child brought to the mall by his parents without their own money to spendIt really feels like you are supposed to experience his story by playing him yourself. The best companion is probably Sebille or something
>>550442845Its more like you'd be insane to cross an inquisitor. Also the plot needs you to follow along...
>>550442845>Calcazar and Heinrix are allowed to order you around from what I rememberThe Imperium isn't that well regulated at such a high level. Both of you can order each other around in theory, and neither.
>>550442845They can’t order you to do anything, but they can justify fucking you over in various ways while acting against the inquisition will get you killed if they care.
>>550442931What >>550443104 said. You only really get the cliffnotes of Red Prince's story as a companion. Larian did a slightly annoying thing in the game where if you're not playing as the origin character you tend to not get the full experience of certain quests. I think Red Prince is the worst offender in this regard although I've never used Ifan or Beast.IMO from what I remember:>Sebilleworks fine as companion and probably better as companion too>Lohseprobably better as companion desu>Fanebetter as origin but companion is decent too>Red Princegood as both but definitely better as origin
>>550442438The latter if she's romanceable.
>>550443507Other than Sebille I'd say the exact opposite. Lohse is one of the better origins to play. Fane is better as a companion unless it's your second playthrough. Red Prince much like Sebille is a really entertaining character and you miss out on all of that as an origin.
Always keep your eye on the prize
Why journos already play dh alpha but its torrent release is delayed?
>>550443767>Lohse is one of the better origins to playI'll take your word for it. I haven't personally played her but I thought her quest was well done as companion. Do you still get her song if you play her?>Fane is better as a companion unless it's your second playthroughI disagree. He's as close to feeling like an MC as the game gets. Maybe it's because Avellone wrote him but he feels inseparable from the actual plot of the game.>Red Prince much like Sebille is a really entertaining character and you miss out on all of that as an originI agree in that he's a fun character and his personality as a companion is great. I did enjoy having him around. It's just you get almost nothing for his quest when he's a companion.I guess we should be thankful that Larian moved away from this type of design in BG3. Custom characters feel like the intended way to play that game.
>>550444019Owlcat forgot to remove the dark eldar waifu so they're hastily doing that
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
>He plays a wizard and he has never known a woman
>>550444979the woman you've known
>>550445365don't disparage your mother that way
>>550445365Centeol or DAO BroodmotherWho's sexier?
DARK HERESY ALPHA DOKO
>>550445623ngl. As a person who's seen videos of people slowly burned alive, especially with just their heads or face on fire.I think the trailer is in kind of poor taste.
>>550445994>As a person who's seen videos of people slowly burned alivewhy?
>>550445623>me every time i read a dolly kissing post
>>550433420you can dump plenty of shit. i dumped might, con, resolve barbarian. you get more dmg from perception, then vice versa you are dumping int and dex on your muscle wizard
>>550445623Its Lucian in a universe where he rejected his destiny and corrupted the world.
>>550445623>tfw no lizard sex
>>550446110It just happens, okay?
>>550442845the inquisition runs the imperium of man as a shadow government, with the emperor being the figurehead. the imperium of man is split up into competeing factions that often act against each others - the astraum cant tell the mechanicus what to do
>>550445651Broodmoothers can be pretty damn hot
>>550436409>combatslopgameplayslopontopicpostingslop
Real talk. How do you people find time to enjoy these kinds of games properly? I used to be able to play RPGs properly when I was a kid, and replay them multiple times to try different builds, or decisions. But I just can't find time for games that are on the order of 100 hours long anymore. Not to enjoy them properly at least.
>>550447134browsing 4chan less saves time
>>550447134we are unemployed
>>550447134Quit your job lmaoJust take your time. It's not like this is a genre with yearly releases. I'll happily spend a year playing a long crpg on and off.
>>550446956Pic unrelated
Why not an edgy horror themed crpg?
>>550447134unless you're salaried with shit hours or a parent, not much really changes
>>550448978I think the difference is that I ignored school, and never did homework and skipped classes all the time, which freed up a lot of staying up all night playing videogames, which I can do less of now that I can't (shouldn't) really do those things as much.
>>550396774I wanna Smooch Imoen.If it wasn't for the whole soul thing, we'd be on the first boat back to Baldur's Gate the moment I got my hands back on her.
>>550449179She's your sister dumbass
>>550447134Take your time
>>550449312Nah, she's the Bhaalspawn's sister.>watching a show>"hey, the MC's sister is really pretty">"OMG, That's your sister dude. gross!"
>>550449863>tv showit's an rpg retard, you are the bhaalspawn ergo she is your sister
>>550449894That's not going to stop me
>>550449312Only on paperHaving a god-parent in common doesn't really countAnd you didn't know she was your sister until you were both grown up
Best girl
>>550444493No Owlcat would just release with the Deldar waifu then two years after release remove it because it's not canon and only admit to doing so in a Reddit thread.
>>550449894I'm roleplaying as the Bhaalspawn, but I created him to be someone not me.Have you heard of this? I call it Roleplaying.Also, even if she was my sister, I don't really care.
>>550450456>"him">roleplayingyou're doing the opposite bro, you're so unable to play the role that you see it as an abstract character rather than yourself
The god emperor wants to know why you are not having baby making sex with the wife he prepared for you
I roleplay as myself, and I want to fuck Imoen because I would fuck my irl sister if she was Imoen.
>>550450583based
>>550450030Yeah, that begs the question.How can a full human and something that isn't part human be siblings?She's a human, but what if I'm an elf, or a Dwarf? No part of us are the same species.>>550450528it is an abstract character. Because all my Bhaalspawn is is just a collection of stats, skills, and an alignment. I make choices for what I imagine him to say, but that doesn't mean I see him as myself.If I saw that character as just myself all the time (even when not currently playing the game, such as right now) then how is that roleplaying, and not just schizophrenia?How would you play a female character, or an evil character, or even one with a different species that innately behaves differently? Would they all be just different appearances of you as a person, or would you try to actually act different to who you are in real life?
>>550450783>Would they all be just different appearances of you as a personyes >would you try to actually act different to who you are in real life?of course, i don't play females but if I did I'd play it based on how I'd imagine myself to act if I were female, same for race/origin etc
>>550451127yeah, I really think you should check out this Roleplaying thing. It's pretty fun.It's like writing a character in a story, but it's all improvised.
>>550450783I'm a lizardperson irl
>>550451340take your own advice, i don't know why you even play RPGs if you're treating yourself as some omnipresent camera watching dolls do stuff instead of being Henry/bhaalspawn/commander shepard etc
My name's commander shepard and this is my favorite dollie on the citadel.
My name is commander shepard and I am my own favorite dollie.
shepard is a lucky man
Bhaalspawn would never fuck Imoen btw
Imoen would NEVER touch you, you gross coomersShe's only interested in Valygar
If you didn't want to fuck Imoen when you played BG2, you are simply lying.
>>550451508That's not what I said at all.Roleplaying is like inserting a new personality into yourself, while whatever it is you do is seeminly the opposite. Projecting your personality onto a new being.
>>550451508>>550453485You guys are talking about two different types of roleplay.One is the kinda gay kind that you do while playing the tabletop with your friends, the other is while you are alone playing an rpg.In the former you are acting out a character, in the latter you are inserting yourself into the game for maximum immersion.
>>550414296
>Ctrl+F Swordhaven>2 hitsDamn, nobody gives a shit
>>550396774I don't want to be delusional about the progress of technology, but not a single thing done by AI employed by companies or people has improved the quality of anything. It's just been routine slop imitating existing things. How am I supposed to feel excited for the tech equivalent of reheated leftovers?
>>550454461i'm waiting for a repack
who else is high af right now?
>>550454461should have included smoochable dollies in your game
>>550454461>rtwp combat that has no magicKinda a hard sell.
>>550454461I didn't even realize it was coming out already. I didn't really like ATOM so I'm not in a hurry to try it.
>>550450571I'm being railed in the ass by a Deldar, I'm kinda busy
seems like a odd reason for bandits to want to kill someone
>>550453206>Tomboy>Not afraid to fight >Breaks herself out of jail then comes for you >Damsel in distress later >Appears to you in dreamsShe has it all. Better than whiny Aerie or grandma Jaheira
>>550455187You never play the expeditions games?
>>550455740Does Marzi ever actually pound your ass? Like, is there a post-sex scene in the bedroomBecause that's what determines if a romance is platonic or not
>>55045623433?
>>550456165>better than jaheria No
>>550453804If all you do is just "insert yourself into the game" then how do you play more than one different character?I'm not just talking about being a theater kid auditioning for high school drama club, It's all about trying to put the character yourself into the character you're thinking of, and trying to work out what he'd do in any situation.It's just as immersive.
>>550456462a mudrunner game
>>550456451Literally yes.
>>550456707Oh ok that settles itI've never let him anywhere near my ass so I didn't know.
>>550456462All thirty three of themCrazy when they ran out of history and had to colonize space aliens
>>550456559meant to just say "yourself" not character yourself.basically it's just about trying to play out a hypothetical of if you were a different person and who you would be in that way. or play out a role, if you will.Just being yourself, but in a different world isn't roleplaying. it's self-inserting.
>>550456559You are inserting yourself in the world, it's views, it's morality and what is considered acceptable.You obviously can play it a bit more evil or a bit more righteous, but you don't go as far as to create a different character in your mind to act as. You just play as yourself with a dial on the morality scale. You still ultimately do what you like, not what a character you conjured up would like.
>>550456559The same way a writer creates characters who are not themselves.
>>550452312Embrace goonternity
Swordhaven looks alright honestly. It doesn't have a hook at all nor any marketing, they didn't even bother to make the trailer interesting.
>>550457180>you don't go as far as to create a different character in your mind to act asno, YOU don't create a different character in your mind.I get why not everyone wants to do that. It's definitely mental load that takes time away from the gameplay itself, but that doesn't mean that just self-inserting is the only way to roleplay. Limiting it to just "just be yourself" is quite frankly retarded. You're not putting any thought into who your character is. You're just picking whatever dialogue options are closest to what you would say if you had the choice to type out whatever you wanted.Personally, I think it's a lot of fun to design characters that fundamentally disagree with you. I'm playing a chaotic character right now, and I'm anything but in real life.It doesn't have to be some pathological ego-death where you reconstruct your own psyche just to pick between options 1, 2, or 3.Sometimes you've just got to say "I have no mercy. I am Chaotic Neutral!" and slay your defeated foe.
>>550458138I am the one that made the post about you two talking about different types of roleplay, not the anon you were arguing with before.
New bread>>550458392>>550458392
>>550396774I'm trying to enjoy WOTR but it feels that I'm doing something wrong. Maybe one of you can help me.I'm playing a wizard and honestly? I'm buffing all the time, that its not a bad thing perse since I enjoy buffing and debuffing but.. I feel like I'm mostly using one or two spells all the time.Of all of the spells that I have , it is either magic missile, haste / illusion buffs and the occassional ray to do damage.The rest of my party? It is kinda the same, Camellia is basically either using the Evil Eye hex or the +1 on rolls. Nenio is applying the buffs that I'm atm not able to apply and that basically takes half of my party away. I'm legit spending most of my playtime buffing and debuffing. Are there other classes that deal with AC in a better way so that I can respec Camellia to that?Having to also apply all these buffs is legit taking most of the fun away from the game but without them I mostly miss my hits. I have the usual feats of penetration, elemental focus, spell focus and so on. Yet sometimes it is not enough and I end up missing 40-50% of the hits. I'm taking now Drezen but I kinda feel done with the game.
