Hornet EditionThread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZNYVd2-GsPrevious Mission: >>550262568 >AC7/8 on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/502500 (AC7)https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288340 (AC8)>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Ace Combat 3: A New Translationhttps://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net/>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA Twitter (JP)https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES >AC7Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes>No EML/QAAM/SASM>In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel >Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/e9PNHDcD >Project Wingmanhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PWhttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn Misc Stuff>/aceg/ Collagehttps://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV>Razgriz Patch Guyhttps://www.strangerealpatches.com/>Ostrich's Modshttps://superostrich.xyz/>/aceg/ Assault Recordshttps://pastebin.com/CjuB314d>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guidehttps://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx >SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk >/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK FAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Is there any AC8 news yet?YES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
CLOUDS.
Guitar guy is highkey making me miss my fraudster husband. Praying he follows in Count's footsteps and avoids pulling a Chopper
Clouds + Hornet
Since we got the trailer, wanted to share some old tone-deaf Ace Combat western TV ads. At least these days we're getting an honest look at the tone of the game.AC4, far more silly than the tone of the game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrjQnPWRyUMAC6, much more western-epic than the cheese tone from the actual gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqwAAJcdxEAir Combat's the only one that seemed to get the tone of the game righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh4fIVZsDdA
I hope we'll get electronic warfare worth a damn, Enchanter-style.>>550524091Buddy...
>>550524091Nah he'll be to busy sitting on the ship doing this over the comms during boss battles
>>550523183Light bounce on the interior walls of the hangar, definitely some form of RTGI in use...
I had kind of forgot about this but a couple of years during one of the many what we wanted in 8 times. I predicted airships in mission 1. We got airships in M1. For my next trick I predict we'll get the X originals + some of the AC3 planes in the base game
>>550523183F-18s at a snowy ground base, very Finnish.
>>550526248wonder what "MF" stands for
>>550524478
>>550526921Motherfuckers, Oh wait sorry this isn't the Cold War game so we can't get away with that.I see snow, Navy planes on an airfield we could get lucky and at the start your stationed on Mega Float
>>550518313>>550523094Specifically, the Bamco execs actually listened to what the problems were and went "how can we fix this?" (assign more programming and engineering staff to unfuck the middleware) instead of just asking if the devs could continue with no added help.
>>550527563Yeah I didn’t know Bamco wanted it to keep going, totally wrong on that.
Question: is that one buddy who's playing all the games stopping to sleep? Or eat? Man's blitzing through each of them faster than I can refresh the thread sometimes. I'm worried is all.
>>550527563Bamco of all companies actually trying to help their devs is a surprise.
>>550529127The games just aren't that long tbdesu. Especially if you're not trying for S ranks or all aces and just want to see the credits.
>>550529807I guess I just forgot how to play these games without S ranking every mission on Ace
>>550530436Yeah, same. Whenever I replay these games I always alt tab after every mission to check the S rank requirements and possible Ace spawn location and spawn requirement for the next mission. And once I've alt tabbed might as well check what the buddies are saying and reply to a few posts, etc.So each run takes twice as long(or more) than if I just sat down and played the game.
I still find it surprising that the big filter for people playing AC7 for the first time is Long Day. Literally the simplest mission type in game (rack up x amount of points within timelimit).
>>550527142>>550531665?
>>550531480Makes you realise how terrible people are at these games. Also I remember how many people were crying about the time limits around AC7s release as if they're not incredibly generous.
>>550529807This is true, back when 4 was the newest one I use to sit down after dinner play the game from start to finish it only took a couple of hoursI did that for so many nights I honesty can't remember how many times I beat 4 on PS2>>550531480Yeah I remember we had one anon here who couldn't beat it for nothing it took him weeks to finally clear it. And it was so simple you could S rank it with any plane you had and no parts on your first run with out even trying just blow shit up for 15mins you get an S, I never could grasp how that game filtered so many people everywhere
>>550532527Hoping they dont cuck on time limits. Having something that by its nature pressures the player is great for incentivizing learning the mechanics properly. Its also part of the arcade game DNA thats been in AC since the 90s.
>>550527563Sounds like bullshit desu.
>>550531480Newcomers get tunnel vision and try to focus on one target at a time, instead of switching targets constantly based on what's easiest to shoot.
>>550532987The trailer features a timer on the HUD so they'll probably keep the time limits.
>>550533363Interesting that the view here is so zoomed in while the HUD is scaled normally. Wonder if this is a new element of the target lock camera.
>>550531480It's the first big ground pounding mission where you actually have to pay some attention to what you're doing and keep firing at shit. Took me a couple tries the first time around.That said, Pipeline Destruction filtered me way harder than Long Day ever did.
>>550533363>15 mins on the clock>0 points>20 QAAM's on the wingsThat pancake is fucked hard>Watch this be a scripted battle and they are invincible
>>550533609After 30 years they decided you can finally zoom in on targets when your in cockpit view instead of just HUD view
>>550533351Target prioritisation is like issue 5 desu. The bigger issues are that they can't read the radar, can't handle 3D space properly, and can't plan an efficient route between targets to destroy them all in one pass.I've watched a bit of gameplay for flight game newbies and it's always like this:Fly towards whatever target is currently targetted.Fire missile at it.If it's dead, make a full circle and go towards the next target.>>550533609>Wonder if this is a new element of the target lock cameraThat's not new. The PS2 games all had this "great feature" where if you press triangle all the way down it massively zooms in your view, but only in HUD mode(cockpit and 3rd person don't do this). Thank god the newer versions of PCSX2-QT allow for per-button sensitivity mapping again like the older LilyPad did.>>550533759>20 QAAMs I think this is actually what happens if you pick the same SPW twice. Hornets only carried like 10 QAAMs in AC7.
>>550527491>we could get lucky and at the start your stationed on Mega FloatI think you might actually be right
>>550534051>>20 QAAMs >I think this is actually what happens if you pick the same SPW twice. Hornets only carried like 10 QAAMs in AC7.Its the most logical method of balancing multiple SPW choices on a single flight desu, if you want more ammo for your SPW, you stick with one choice, if you want more versatility but less magazine depth, you choose two SPW.
I just want a fucking FOV slider for the cockpit.
>>550534272>I just want a fucking FOV slider for the cockpit.would be strange to not add one after they spent the last interview hyping up how ultra detailed and pretty the new cockpit cabin models are.
>>550534051>I think this is actually what happens if you pick the same SPW twice. Hornets only carried like 10 QAAMs in AC7.But look at the standard missiles 122 in 7 base was 98. Unless the missile part is equipped they have up'd the ammo count as I truly hope we have returned to AC6 levels of enemy count
>>550534714If the maps are truly as huge as they've been promising (10,000km2) then they surely must have upped enemy count so that you arent spending half the mission afterburning across empty space.
>>55053511610000km2 isn't even THAT huge. It's 100km by 100km. That's 2 and a half minutes at mach 2 to cross the entire map.
>>550536181True, but its still a decent jump up in map size over previous titles, no?
>>550529807>Especially if you're not trying for S ranks or all aces and just want to see the credits.who the fuck plays like this?
>>550537305The buddy that's currently in these threads, going through all of the ace combat games.
>>550537305I legit never bothered with doing S Ranks or getting all the named Aces until I played 7 and finally got around to Zero. I just never had much interest in trying to 100% any game, much less Ace Combat. There's no way in hell I'd ever try doing that with 5, but 7's a fairly short game all things considered. I've always played to see the story and then speedrun with planes I think are cool.
>>550536181That's 10 minutes wasted if the targets are only on the four corners. BF2042 has the same problem with their oversized map, if I'm not mistaken
about Ace diff, I know in old games it made your plane a paper plane but what about the newer games? It doesn't seem difficulty changes anything, you can still tank quite a number of missiles
>>550534272>>550534471I want to have more head movement in cockpit view. AC7 artificially limiting your neck to 90 degrees feels awful (when literally every cockpit ever is spacious enough to crane your neck all the way backwards).>>550538842It's way more forgiving in 7. Every game before AH would have you die with a single MSL on Ace.
>>550539146I know, which is why I asked, what's the difference between Easy and Ace when you can just play both the same way?
I hope AC8 will finally have some of the skipped ADF/ADFX
>>550539316No plane repairs when using the return line.Slightly less dumb enemies that are more likely to shoot missiles at you if you're in rangeScore requirements are higher but who cares, you're going for S ranks, not just barely clearing the score requirement.Aces spawn if you do super specific shit like flying under one of the railguns in Stonehenge or along the mass driver on Tyler Island.Overall AC7 made Ace difficulty pretty toothless. The change from Hard to Ace is barely perceptible.
>>550539807well at least the final DLC mission made S ranking a bitch for some reason, so there's the difficulty kicking in
>>550540635I think the DLC was a pretty healthy thing for the dev team. They clearly used the DLC as testing/training on fixing a lot of the issues 7 itself had like toothless allied AI. I think they're using it as a baseline for 8's gameplay, I hope at least.
I dont know why people get so mad about AI, this is the best toy ever conceived by man.
>>550529127Yea, I play a lot of them over the course of a few days, but some are short so I can knock them out pretty quick. 3 and 5 were the only ones where I really spent over 2 days on.
>>550542494I hope the few chuckles you got out of that were worth RAM and GPU prices quadrupling and you not being able to afford a new PC or console in the next 5 years.
>>550542494Don't AC7 taught you anything on why AI is bad?
>>550542494you gotta ask it to speak in ebonics, if it refuses to, ask it to speak in "aave"whole lotta fun
I hope AC8 has branching storyline like ACX
>>550542551Wait, did you get the true ending for AC2?
>>550543024games branching storyline ruins the story tempo, every fucking time, I'd rather not. There's always a moment where a big character defining scenario happens on one of the side mission and then completely disregarded because it's not part of the main mission. Hell even in ACX, barely any of the missions matters outside of where you started + the big chapter end mission.
>Full Band knew too much, actually he did too muchBecomes>You were just a pawn in this too Mckinsey What was Bandog's problem? If he knew shit sucked why did he kill Fullband?
>>550543570Because Fullband was being really annoying. He warned him like 5 times.It's not like he'll be missed.
>>550543570he hates everyone but he knows his job, Full Band is a just an intel leak waiting to happen and intel leak will make life worse for everyone in Osea, him included.
>>550543570Full Band specifically 'knew too much' about the Osean's plan to reactivate Stonehenge. He mentioned in First Contact that the recon team was 'investigating the ruins'. So he probably went a step too far with breaking into secret intel on what was their big plan to turn the tide of the war.
The whole "Champ went down crying like a baby" thing never made sense to me. Dude's last words were "WOOOHOOOOOO YEAAAHH" right as he pulled a cobra. And when Mihaly does kill him, it's instant. Unlike Brownie, where he takes his sweet ass time. What was Full Bands problem?
>>550543952for that one I'm going to chalk it up to translation error, the whole convo makes no sense, Tab went from chastising him to mellowing down in a matter of seconds
>>550543952Nothing but shit talk. Full Band made fun of High Roller getting shot down in Easy Day too. Nice horse.
>>550543110I thought it didn't have branching path endings only 3 did? The last mission I remember having to do was going inside an enemy stronghold and blowing up a missile/rocket inside of it
>>550544156Then you got it. It's unlocked by shooting down all the Z.O.E. planes.
>>550544225I wasn't aware that the named ZOE planes were an ending condition
Finally caved in an bought the game + CFA 44 for the sweet mods yesterday, is it always this cheap for AC7? Is the DLC price going to get lower eventually, I might get that too someday if it's low enough. Don't need it right now since I can just use my PS4 for the DLC.
>>550544512It's on sale right now so it's super cheap. But you could always just download the DLC files and use CreamAPI or SmokeAPI to unlock the DLC.
>>550542639I have money on it burning up once people start pulling their money from no one making anything
>>550543570Knew too much and can't keep his mouth shut. Also Bandog warned him multiple times by that point
>>550544636I really don't want to bother with CreamAPI which is why I bought Nosferatu instead of APIing it, paranoid and all. I'll just wait for a lower sale, if that ever happens.
>>550543952>BrownieShe should've just ejected when she knew she was being hunted like a rabbit with no way out.
>>550545019can you guarantee he wouldn't just gun her parachute down?
>>550545119I definitely would have but I doubt it would have interested Mihaly much to keep after her once she was out of the cockpit.
>>550545381didn't they tell scary stories about how no one lived after facing Mihaly in mission 11? He clearly wants the kill, in or outside the plane.
>>550543952>"WOOOHOOOOOO YEAAAHH"I wonder if thats what the average Strangereal Su-37 pilot thinks every time they pull a cobra right into the protagonist's two missiles coming for them
>>550545665at least they died with a smile
>>550545504I figured there's no sport in shooting down a parachute, as long as your opponent is still in a plane they theoretically have a sporting chance to fight back, no matter how small Brownie's was.That said I very much want to see enemy pilots eject in AC8 specifically so I can shoot them down twice, preferably you get to hear them panic over the radio as they fall, too.
>>550546236>they're shooting at bailed out pilots?!
>>550546236I think Infinity has a mission where an ally parachute out of his jet only to got shot by a laser equipped drone. Kinda based
Bandog best AWACS, I'm a sucker for the "you're all bastards but you're MY bastards" trope
>>550547130More accurately shot at by a girl trapped in a space station remotely piloting a CFA-44 Nosferatu that is being gaslit by an AI telling her its just a video game.
>>550547360I wonder where they were planning to go with that storyline.
>>550547130Lmao, sick. I never got to play Infinity, or Project Wingman for that matter.
>>550547360Tf was Infinity on? How did this manage to save the franchise?
>AC8 announcement finally motivates me to play the ace combat games rotting in my backlog for the past few years (the PS2 ones in release order and then 7)>thought 4 was breddy gud if a bit short>just finished 5>mfw the entire like second half of 5's storyi don't know if it's just because i'm a sucker for the tropes or because i haven't played a singleplayer vidya with any story at all in years or if it really is good and i'm just not used to liking good things but i really enjoyed it. zero is next on my backlog, but i might have to postpone playing it due to the war thunder winter event i agreed to play with my friends
>>550547761The multiplayer was great. That's all that Infinity was made for.
>>550547920Games with serious effort and focus on the story have become a rarity in the past decade due to focus on multiplayer. Move on to Zero as soon as you can, story is just about as good as 5's with different tone and themes.
>>550547920im pissed they locked the mig-25 behind the event as a reward instead of putting it in the tech tree
>>550548193As expected of the Snail
>>550547920AC5 is kinda dumb and melodramatic but it is sincere, which is kind of a rarity these days. It's also big and bombastic and having character moments and story cutscenes between every single mission really draws you in. Unfortunately it gets worse on every replay because of the gimmick missions and the "kill respawning enemies while dialogue plays" missions.Zero is a bit more understated and you'll have a lot of missions with little or no story inbetween but it has immense replay value and the sheer cool factor of the Ace squadrons is the best of the entire series.
>>550548873>it gets worse on every replay because of the gimmick missions and the "kill respawning enemies while dialogue plays" missionsI like flying around in planes and shooting enemy planes, and these missions to me are still just more of that, so I genuinely do not understand why other people have such problems with them.
It's odd how Ace Combat Advance is the only other game to take place in the 2030s because AC8 will likely touch upon the 2030s
>>550549694winchester simulator especially on long ass missions like Bunker Shot (forma de AC5) and desert arrow/lightning
>>550549694Because it's more fun when the enemy planes are varied in make and come from different vectors. With infinitely respawning enemies you're just shooting down the same squadron over and over again.With AC5 specifically they're also not very fun to fight. You'll often get a squadron of like 2-4 craft that respawn infinitely and you'll clear the entire map before the story triggers hit so all you have to do is just kill that same squadron over and over again.
anyone here knows where I can find a frame/poster with this pic? or should I just make myself one?
>>550550345it doesnt need to be this exact one, I just want it to be the OST cover
Going back to the thread when the trailer dropped and chuckling at the few limpdick attempts at trolling petering off not even halfway through the night.
This is such a cute little game help me this is miserable on pc
>>550551602What is wrong?
>>550551764just bemoaning the controls, even binding the buttons on my controller it feels super awkward to play this one
>>550551885It's dubious if this game is even canon iirc project aces didn't work on it
>>550552596On that note, for the love of God avoid Northern Wings. It's definitely not canon lmao and is also trash.
is there any Multi SPW mod for AC7?
>>550551025Went a lot better over on /v/ where the standard "le DEI" and "le woke" threads about AC8 were up for a few days after the trailer dropped.
>>550543952Full Band is just talking shit because he's an asshole. He does the same thing about High Roller later in the same mission
>>550552813>>550552596Ace Combat Advance is Canon until canon info contradict it
Real glad they decided to go fully in-house for cloud rendering, trueSKY was impressive 7-8 years ago, but after seeing 8's trailer and going back to 7, the difference in definition is crazy. 7's clouds all have this fuzzy wispy look around their edges, like they're strands of cotton candy.
You are now on the dev team and have been tasked with a choice, you must add aircraft to the playable roster following these rules;>One aircraft from the previous games you love>One aircraft from the previous games you hate>One aircraft to be banished into the voidYou are allowed to use any aircraft, playable or non playable from the previous games, you must fulfil all 3 options
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveyf23>One aircraft from the previous games you hatenosferatu>One aircraft to be banished into the voida10
>>550555904>aircraft I loveA-6E which made me so happy when Kono/Shimimoto namedropped it during an interview as an aircraft they've modelled>One aircraft from the previous games you hateSu-47 Berkut, its kind of awkward looking and my tism gets a little bothered its based on a testbed and not an actual service aircraft, but at the same time its very iconic and unique.>One aircraft to be banished into the voidSu-30M2, the Flanker spam in 7 was kind of unreal desu
Just finishing my replay of AC7. Man I forgot just how boring this story was. And the scenarios were more there to showcase a large number of entities on screen like some wannabe dynasty warriors shit and the weather effects (which are insane but don't add to the story)I love the way this game looks, it's fucking gorgeous, but the ost is so... Okay. And so is the story.There isn't a branching route, wingman commands, prompts to respond to dialog, reticuke for manual targeting selection, you don't feel like you really have a wingman, you don't even choose the loadout for Mr. Man Who I Continually Confuse for Tabloid, you don't even see Count's face in any of the cutscenes do you?
>>550556227>the weather effects (which are insane but don't add to the story)no shit? they're weather effects, they're there to enhance the flight fantasy-immersion factor and to add a little extra bit of feedback in gameplay
>>550556139>banish A-10Look it's you
>>550547469Given the year it was made I always figured the story would have finished off asShe finds out its not a a game the AI has been telling her lies the whole time. The very moment she breaks free of the AI's control your missile slams into her craft killing her instantly.
>>550556571enlighten me on the a10 then
>>550552813Mobile game No one can play it just as we can't play the prequel to X>>550554967Not even mentioned or shown in anything official from the 30th yes anon its still not canon today just like its been for a long time. Same for Northern Wings
Next info drop when? When's the next big games event? I am pretty confident PA is aiming for spring/summer as a release window, since there's a certain other AAA videogame release in winter of '26 that'll just suck up all the oxygen...
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveThe Draken from Zero>One aircraft from the previous games you hateAll planes are beautiful dreams. Maybe the Shinden, I think it looks dumb>One aircraft to be banished into the voidGripen E/F, I don't even hate it - matter of fact I quite like it - but its fanboys have personally slighted me by being annoying on twitter so i'll take my petty revenge here. I won't veto Gripen C though, I'm not a monster
>>550557146It's fun to use on air to ground missions regardless of which game it's in
>>550557290Northern Wings is 100% not canon but Ace Combat Advance is canon until it get shown not to be canon
Are the AC7 DLCs worth it?
>>550557753Not listed on the official sites timeline its not canon buddy
>>550559117They're very low right now and you only need the Top Gun and Season Pack plus the three 25th DLCs to get everything
>>550556227One of my biggest gripes is you can't sell aircraft you've bought. Just lemme reinvest please.
>>550559523I meant like the three story missions
>>550557730when are air to ground missions just air to ground?
Last PS2 game time
>>550559717Very much so
>>550559793Bagging planes with an A-10 is bragging rights
>>550559717Those are a must buy how else will you experienceSALVATION!!!
>>550559914Mystery nigga
>>550559793Whats wrong? Can't hit targets unless you're in a raptor?
>>550560459Seriously, I want this game remade so bad. Surely they must have the masters of the fmv cutscenes, right.
>>550560459Pretty standard so far, but some planes became yellow after getting hit, which I guess is tied to that new bar that went left?
>>550561239Yeah, killing yellow stuff makes you more merc, not doing that makes you more knight. It changes what I ain't telling you.
>>550561008i've done ace of aces in an a10, i just prefer a plane that doesnt handle like a blimp piloting an eagle
>>550561141for the remaster of 5 they had to AI upscale the cutscenes so I doubt they have the original files
Those Windmills and Houses shouldn't have been worth points if they didn't wanna get blown up
>>550555904I'm gonna quite optimistically work off the base that AC7's roster is being carried over and my additions are simply added on top of/retracted from that baseline list.>One aircraft from the previous games you loveViggen.Honourable mentions: Tigershark, Harrier, Tornado>One aircraft from the previous games you hateF-117AI don't hate it as a plane in and of itself, but in the context of Ace Combat I have always loathed it. An attacker that has consistently been saddled with a crap ammo pool and crap selection of SPWs.>One aircraft to be banished into the voidThe ADF-11F Raven does absolutely nothing for me and if it never existed I would never even notice.
>>550555904>F-15S/MTDIts cool>RF-12Anyone who A ranked the missions involving this thing understands why, god help you if you are doing the international release for some reasons>X-02SThe poster boy for EML faggotry worldwide, seeing its slaves trying to justify its use and existence was something else, also the X-02A looks better
>>550561942<<Only a mercenary would attack a wounded windmill>>
>>550562565I appreciate the choice being given to finish off jets or bombers, I imagine the game will have some sort of branching related to this Ace Style in terms of story, looking forward to find out
>>550543952There are some cut lines where he really is yelling for help akin to Brownie. Full Band's line in the next mission wasn't accordingly adjusted, I suppose.
Love that they let you choose what style of mission you want
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveB-1C, let a co-op buddy protect me as I bomb the fuck out of those challenged by gravity, while chilling laid back eating snacks in my COFFIN bomber (chose C over B for coffin memes)>One aircraft from the previous games you hateF-117A, getting baited into using this in a particular mission in 6 will be both the best and worst experience of your life>One aircraft to be banished into the voidASF-X, ugly, would prefer a rusty harrier or a heavy shitbox, barely functioning soviet vtol
>>550555904>Su-24I remember really liking back in Infinity's time, plus it's always nice to have moar swingwings in game>ADF-11 RavenHate's a strong word but aside feom the drone weapons I find it to be boring both design and gameplay wise.>Su-30M2No reason for this to exist when the SM is essentially the same plane so Kono's Flanker fyetish can be appeased.
>>550565564Pick Costner for Kestrel, and I think you already know what those bars were for
>>550568494>KestrelThat shitty ship who got sunk twice?
>>550568565Don't blame Kestrel II's stupidity and arrogance on the Kestrel, she gets it from the Barbet
Airforce Delta Strike feel like what AC would be like if it was Japanese
>>550568865
>>550569102AC don't feel Japanese in how the games feel
Wonder how Osea will spin the narrative for Ceres Sea battle where they lost Barbet fleet in the attempt to sunk Kestrel. A naval combat with the Yukes with Kestrel fleet brushed out?
>>550555904>>One aircraft from the previous games you loveMiG 1.44>>One aircraft from the previous games you hateVarcolac>>One aircraft to be banished into the voidF-4
speaking of carriers, I wonder why no one bothered to recover Andersen during AC7? It's not that badly damaged and still full of valuable planes to use inside.
>>550572620It's nearby the Lighthouse and inside Arsenal Bird's range, even when the bird is down to one.
>>550572620I don't think that's a freshwater body of water it sank into,and even if it were...
>>550572750Ah fair enough, I forgot about the Arsenal Circle of Doom in the briefing>>550572845Andersen, not Kestrel 2, the final mission carrier
>>550543570Because Full Band actually endangered the entire war effort bragging about upcoming ops, and the Stonehenge op specifically was the most important in the entire war. Hating McKinsey is entirely separate.
>>550571479Oh god i didn't consider the Varcolac cause its outside strangereal, i HATE that thing AND it should be banished, don't will it into existence
>>550574897>>550571479do you hate penis that much?
>>550574973yes
>>550571479>adds the fugliest aircraft ever put to paper>banishes the phantom
>>550574897>>550575136Wasn't that the whole point of the question
Varcolac is a fine addition, it can show you which one of us is the tryhard who discards his own shame for an overpowered dick plane
>>550575678Was it overpowered? It was so ugly I never flew it, not onceDidn't help that I disliked X2 as a whole, it's the only AC game of the ones I've played that I never touched again after finishing the campaign
>>550576003slightly better than Fenrir IIRC, but yeah, no point in bothering with that when Fenrir exists. Dunno what they're smoking when designing this.
>>550573656my bad, my bad
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveA-4 Skyhawk>One aircraft from the previous games you hateB-1B Lancer>One aircraft to be banished into the voidR-311 Remora
>>550576275Must be the good shit, since they thought of>You know what this game need?A flying dick with shark teeth
>>550576939guess they looked at thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABsh%C5%AB_J7W_Shindenand thought "how about this but with jets and extra anime"
Fuck those SU37's were quick
>>550577904Neat I can buy one for myself
>>550571437Pretty sure everything in 5 and 0 got publicized, no? It's what lead to 0's cutscene plot where some journalist tracked down the guy all the newly disclosed docs mention.7 also mentions the Kestrel sending off the Razgriz as basic facts
>>550577904You should see the Strigons in AC6. Cunts go hypersonic.
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveSu-37, especially since it has the TLS in 7>One aircraft from the previous games you hateADF-11F Raven, honestly I feel like it's a knock-off FALKEN>One aircraft to be banished into the voidX-29, i don't understand why it's not modeled like the IRL plane
>>550576939>take place in the real world>somehow has wackier plot and design than the strangereal games in
>>550578020>end game plane with early game earningsyeah, good luck with that
>>550578436everything in ace6 seems to be hypersonic, outrunning missiles left and right
>>550579436I can't believe they'd bait me like this
>>550579691You should be able to buy it around....Hoffnung
Excuse me sir, that's a giant death beam
>>550579691Just be a Mercenary chad and you can buy it easy
>>550580352that's been the plan >>550561942
Neat I can change the color schemes of the planes, didn't know I unlocked this one just now
>>550580819Wait until you learn Tomcat's special color scheme
>>550579691You can sell ever, other plane and afford it by like next mission.You get a full refund on all purchases in ACZ.
>>550581287>implying only ACZI'm pretty sure Ace Combat series is the only series that does full refund when you sell equipments, which is weird that they never bothered to fix this 'exploit'
>excited by the AC8 reveal enough to try and replay AC7>decide to throw some extra mods in there for good fun>autism activates and I'm constantly niggled by completely inconsequential details of some of the plane addons>why does this plane need two entire variants packaged together, i just want this one>this name is inconsistent with everything else in the game, and it upsets me>why is this description grammatically atrocious>what the fuck is an F/A-5E Super Tiger>man I wish I could change the aircraft choice screen so that all the DLC and addon planes are nicely sorted together instead of being arbitrarily bunched up under everything>end up getting completely lost in the sauce of editing the compatibility mod's data tables and modifying localization files for 2 days>never actually replay the gameI have, nonetheless, achieved Nirvana
Why would they when they can just jack up the costs by forcing you to buy 4 of each type to equip you and your squadmate
>>550581287I could but the first plane I bought isn't really worth enough to buy it, and the A-10 is my favorite to play with on all the anti-ground missions they offer me, so I'm reluctant to part ways with it... I'll make do with the planes I have for now, I'm like 1 missions away really from being able to buy it
>>550581439IIRC armored core also does it. Also makes you pay for ammo during mission though.
>>550581439Maybe they didn't 'fix it' because it was an intentional design choice that allowed you to freely experiment with the planes and SPWs that were available to you?idk, just a thought.I will forever be mad about AC7 not allowing you to sell stuff.
>>550581439Been a while since I last played but I remember Armored Core 3 giving you full refunds when you sold parts back. I like it that way since it allows for more experimentation and it isn't really an exploit, 'cause you don't earn more money than you already have.
Holy Moly
>>550583360Come back later on ace difficulty to have your mind blown. Two new green plane targets have been added, with one chasing the other ;)
>you killed the president! your punishment is being sent to a secret prison/air base and fly with a squadron of irredeemable criminals who are given access to military hardware>also there's this tomboy chick who can turn dead scrapyard planes into fully operational combat ready fighters all by herself with a couple wrenches and scredrivers>also there's this 100 year old superchad fighter pilot grandpa who keeps flying and fighting despite not being able to even walk without help, oh and he has 29 namesare the other games in the series this unapologetically retarded? i love it lol
>>550584093Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas A. Shilage is the least retarded part of 7
I have a highly trusted source who told me Belka is responsible for the conflict in AC 8
>>550584093>fly with a squadron of irredeemable criminals who are given access to military hardwareAsk Wagner where they got their manpower. Besides, airpower in Strangereal is far more accessible, and in today's world, even actual PMCs (like Draken) can afford to operate multiple fighters (and are often employed as Red Air in training exercises). Many IRL nations also got free F-16s as Excess Defense Articles from the US, so I think it's believable that Osea has enough surplus airframes to use for this purpose.>this tomboy chick who can turn dead scrapyard planes into fully operational combat ready fighters all by herself with a couple wrenches and scredriversThe narrative is all about exceptional people having an outsized effect on those around them, and who's to say that the planes were in Russian storage yard-tier condition when she started working on them?>there's this 100 year old superchad fighter pilot grandpa who keeps flying and fighting despite not being able to even walk without helpThe trope of having an old guy who just won't quit is as old as time.>oh and he has 29 namesCheck any IRL noble's name, and see how many you can count. Mihaly is royalty.
The Grey Men are a Nordennavician psyop
>>550581439I specified ACZ because there are some games like AC2 where you only get half your money back.
>>550584843And to this day Kono never told anyone what the >Astands for. Certainly not his final rank
>>550581439this is one of "those" types of posts
>>550581874The Su-37 has FAEBs too.
>>550588271It doesn't stand for anything. His second to last name is just A.
Could they develop an in flight combat meal for fighter pilots that has a hot bowl of fresh chili? Maybe some cornbread?
Die, countries, die. I can't wait for corporate warfare.
>>550589085>I can't wait for corporate warfare.its already a thing, they're just not doing with violence
>>550588271It stands for AhIseeYouHaveALockAndCanHitMeButInvinciblityPeriodIsNotOverYetFucko
>>550588271I'm sure it's like Homer J. Simpson
What is the best hangar music and why is it Sortie III?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y-0GXY7_E8
>>550547920You have more than enough time to finish zero, maybe even twice for different Acr styles before the event even begins. Also it's barely 40k every other day for the MiG-25, that takes like 3 hours at worst.
>>550591168https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlUjiIFSkg>Razgriz, LAUNCH!
>>550591168>>550591646https://youtu.be/bQ8LmEIWyx4Kneel to AC2's peak OST (again)
>>550584093>other games in the series this unapologetically retardedNothing reaches the levels of 7 but you should try 5.>>550591168https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjuTkZ_pQQIt's got to be the hanger/menu music from X. I much prefer the more varied soundtrack of X with its futuristic feel to the more generic orchestral focus in some of the other games.>>550592251This one is good too but I found it a bit upbeat for the hangar.
>>550591168https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWgnr4msfw
>>550593198Fort Greys is the better 7 Hanger theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfDWgew3UQQ
>>550561581>remaster of 5>AI upscale the cutscenes0/10 put a little effort into it next time this is just sad
For me it's 5's menu aesthetic and music
Full sizedhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137614092
>>550594302To be fair it was good ole simple upscaling, not this newfangled diffusion stuff.
>>550598407Yeah it is as I have the PS4 version of 5. It uses Sony's inhouse emu as it has the same visual issues that can't be fixed you find when playing PS2 5 on PCSX2. Cutscenes aren't really upscaled however, they just work as is.
can the Albatross be refloated? I assume she sunk on her moorings in Fort Greys, so unless the damage is too severe, she can be raised back up and reused for some time longer
>>550604627She's an FCU carrier if they did fix her I get the feeling she was sunk again in 2029.
>>550604859>Osea donate one of their carrier>It's sunk by Erusean drones>Gets refloated and fixed>sunk againI think I understand why Osea decided not to barge in this time
>>550539807>along the mass driver on Tyler IslandTo this day I have not gotten this guy to spawn. No idea what I’ve been doing wrong, it’s the only named ace I don’t have. Maybe I’ll go back and try to get it to work before 8 comes out.
>>550597626Still the coolest fucking motto in the industry.
>>550608334You have to do it before the bombers arrive. You have to fly the entire thing while Bitching Betty is yelling at you levels of low. You need to start your approach before the Mass driver even beings and travel along the entire thing no more than few feet from hitting it. Stay that way for the entire length of it. They will then spawn with the bombers and you must ID the ace for it will count.
Do you think Kono would be mad at me if I leaked the Ace Combat 8 files to Ubisoft so they could develop HAWX 3?
Let's say hypothetically I am a current member of the United States Airforce. What would happen to me if I flew my F-15 into Ukraine to join as a real life Cipher?
>>550610939Let's say, hypothetically, I'm a Commanding Officer in the USAF and one of my subordinates just reported a security breach from an "unidentified" terminal in an unidentified staging area.What's the worst that could happen?Report. Now.
>>550610939You get assassinated by milspergs before you even get in the plane so that you cannot ruin the F-15's kill record.
>>550609484Is there any speed requirement to it? At one point I had thought I was going too slowly, maybe I was just not low enough though. Or not starting early enough on the mass driver. I’ll probably try this one again…
>>550612646Let's say hypothetically one of my convicts got into my office to use my computer to shitpost from my povYou. Solitary. Now!
>>550613369When I did it I went at base speed so I wouldn't hit the rail or fly to high up by accident.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137423130
Full at link above
I cannot wait>To get rescued by the last shitbox carrier the FCU has>Comms and intelligence are down>Horror story at sea trying to survive with our shitbox scrounged up aircraft>Think aid is coming but its always drones and jets coming to fuck us up even more than we already are>Floating around scrounging up even more shitbox aircraft from wherever we can>Get some rep for being survivors>GR take note and give us good shit>"Finally, something better than pickles with pickles" (It's just more pickles)>Get some real victories>"Gentlemen not a single border can resist us now, on the journey home all callsigns report in, everybody form up on rex we're taking back USEA, it's time to go dance with the mobius-1's">Final mission is against a flying Osean+Yuke collaboration supercarrier, both nations collapse under the scandal, Sotoa was a pawn>The plucky shitbox carrier and her crew of misfits win>Post victory party, all the snacks are pickles>I clap and kneel before KonoKino
>>550555904>One aircraft from the previous games you loveYR-99 Forneus... and once that plane has its foot in the door, it would just look silly not to add the rest of the ACX planes, right?>One aircraft from the previous games you hateF-117I don't hate it, but I hate flying it. Still, it must be included for the memes.>One aircraft to be banished into the voidR-201 AsterozoaI'd get rid of almost all AC3 planes if I could, but this twin-bodied goober plane is just too much.
>enemy ace charges us with an Su-57 thinking theyre high and mighty>we counter with an XFA-36 GAMEWhat do you think Kino or Stinko?
>>550524523>my wish to choose my squadron's plane comes true>your hope for effective ew comes true>a-6 already confirmedGrumman buddies, our time is coming.
>>550608798So cool the us air force used basically the same thing as recruit bait 4 years before pa did.
Doing a replay of 7 I decided to use the Hornet for Rescue, you know to kinda make the confusion about who downed Harling make more sense. Good Lord they did the Bug dirty with the loadout options. No AAMs, seriously, jusy QAAMs?
Would you buddies prefer if Ace Combat games featured the F/A-23A and the YF-22 or are you all cool with real history going the way it did?
>>550623830rather see the return of things like FB-22 and F-16XL
>>550582201Not in V/VD, another reason why I'm not too fond of them.
>>550623830One day i hope to be free from the chains of people thinking the F14 is some super plane that can still go "it just needs an upgrade bro", only russiaslop can PSM and do muh cobra, and somehow the ATF choice being wrong as well by armchair aviators
>>550623830What I would prefer is that the loser prototypes get fictional combat ready versions of themselves like the YF-23 gets.>>550625424>and somehow the ATF choice being wrong as well by armchair aviatorsI wanna strangle all of these motherfuckers with my barehands. But they also wouldn't be able to get a word in edgewise if the F-35 program wasn't managed by absolute fucking retards, I consider it a minor miracle the plane is as good as it is. Oh but don't worry, Leafs and Eurofags saber rattling about how they want to move away from American equipment totally mean the F-35 is FINISHED because as we all know the Gripen is literally better than the F-35 and the Eurofighter Typhoon is one of the top combat aircraft in the world.
>>550626083>Eurofighter Typhoon is one of the top combat aircraft in the world.Why do you buddies think the Euros require this text in any licensed media that features the Typhoon?
>>550626083Oh goddammit I got the ATF confused with the JSF program. Fuck it, rant stands, just applied to the wrong lost.
>>550626492Because they did it for 7 and it's funnier to imagine the license holders insisting that anything featuring the Typhoon must suck it's fuel probe to completion. I actually really like all the Eurodoritos though, so I'm just poking fun at them.
>>550626743That text is literally in 04-Infinity as well.
>>550626883Then it's even funnier lol
>>550623437It would be nice to have a wider variety of munitions now that we're getting more than one spw, but I could also see pa giving us fewer options. Kinda like how you can't use level 2 parts in ac7's campaign.
>>550626743Well about that whole leading combat thing......
That's the Wings of Theve... the legendary Ace who reclaimed the skies over Theve
>>550627290I feel like they had a good idea with 7's Sp.Ws but I also feel like each plane could have used one more to give it more options. Like for the Hornet, give it 4AAMs so it has better A2A options.
>>550627724There is also the excuse that there's three other hornets in the game, you just have to pay for them.
>>550627609the ghost of thyiv
All these years later and I see /aceg/ is still the place where MIC shills come to vent because they came across people who don't believe the MIC delivers the bestest that ever bested because we paid billions and trillions for everything.
>>550625424I just want to see some more plane variants, buddy. It would further show that Strangereal doesn't really follow our world's rules when it comes to aircraft RnD, and the thought of a carrier-based aircraft with F-15E capabilities is just too cool for me despite being expensive, illogical and probably unfeasible
>>550628396SAMUYIL HYDENKO????
>>550628413I kinda like the fact that my country is de facto ruler of the world and I'd like to keep it that way, so no I'd say I get pretty goddamn mad at the MIC for being retarded too. The F-35 is good, but it would be better if the program wasn't such a clusterfuck of incompetence and corruption. That's why I'm optimistic about the B-21, because so far it's on time and under budget. But we all know that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be a boondoggle of its own later on. And it also makes furious that there are more J-20s in the world than the F-22. There should be as many F-22s as there are F-35s right now.
>>550630026There's no reason to stop there. Give it the EASA treatment and slap on canards, thrust vectoring and any flavor of super weapon.
>>550623437At least the E from the Top Gun pack can equip HCAAs, and the TGM special even gets HCAAs or HVAAs.
Mobile air-bases on tank treads.
>>550631314That'd be sick. I've been daybdreaming of a helicopter game where one is your homebase lately.
My dream for AC8 is that the F-16C will actually be good, like it was in 4, 5, and Zero. In 4 especially I recall it handled really well, even if it did have a low ammo capacity. It’s too nice of a plane to get relegated to “lame starter plane” duty. I know 7 had the upgraded F-16 with the CFTs but it looks so much better without them.
So if Osea is United States, Emmeria is United States, is FCU also United States or is it Holy Roman Empire?
>>550635623It isn't even an F-16, it's a fictional F-2 upgrade instead of a Block 70.
>>550637006I view Emmeria as more of a weird mix of the UK and a nordic country like Sweden than I do as not-America.
Apparently Merriam-Webster dubbed 'slop' the word of the year and used what I presume is an AI-generated picture to represent it. But the image has some extremely cursed fighter jets in the background which I found funny.
>>550637006UK
>>550638171No that's North Point
>>550637006>Getting a lot of United States vibes from this.t. guy who's only ever seen the united states when he plays as other countries.
>>550637006Emmeria is UK but with it's capital as New York. It used to be a monarchy, now it's a republic. Estovakia is Poland or some other Eastern European country.
>>550637006Emmeria is more like Britain, or maybe Norway, with American characteristics. It’s not really supposed to be Strangereal America the way Osea is. Similarly Estovakia has some vague Russian aspects to it but it’s really more like Yugoslavia, where Yuktobania is the actual Strangereal Russia.
>Emmeria isn't americaThere's literally the golden gate bridge and yellow school busses.
>>550638985ok retard
>>550639087Come to Europe then faggot I will show you around my town. We can count the yellow school busses and golden gate bridges
>>550639373I'm my way to kick your fucking ass then
>>550639495I will be picking you up at the train station in Innsbruck. You can stay at my place after we are done so you dont have to take the late night train home.
Canada of the Commonwealth exists,but I'll have no horse in this race
>>550588271Archange, ya dumbass
>>550643573tasha pits
General Resources looks like a a fun place to work.
>>550647806Must be fun like working at the CIA where you run glowie project to destabilize nations every day
>>550643573It would be funny if this turn out to be canon
>>550637709What's the visible difference between F-2 and F-16 anyway?
>>550648727three piece cockpit canopy is the biggest tell
>>550648170So just the CIA back in the 80s and 2000s
Warning, over-g, over-g, over-g, icing, stall warning, pull up, pull up!
>>550648216NGL if you crash or get shot down I expect to hear lines like those. You still get a game over and have to restart but still
>>550650083Suspicious corpo glowie guy from the trailer sighing and going<<Alright, show of hands, who wants to go next?>>
>>550648727Size, F-2's are larger and carry anti ship missiles.
>>550650194That is kind of what I expect to hearBut that does bring another question just who is he a glowie for? Osea, FCU, GR, IUN, Yukes?If Osea chances of his direct superior being David North
>>550651621I'm fairly certain Osea is out of the picture in 8. He's either a PR guy for the FCU, or a representative for GR who's job is to subtly prolong the war via social media influencing so that GR can continue profiting
Osea, Usea, EruseaDid they always historically have these names because holy shit medieval peasants would be confused as fuck.
I hope 8 is actually hard on high difficulty settings, 7 feels like everything except bosses is piss easy to fight even on ace
>>550651621My vote's for Belka
>>550652923IIRC Usea was originally an acronym, I can't remember what it was for though.>>550651621The real big twist Oroborusit fits with him being into social media nonsense
>>550654427United States of Europa Autonomous?
>>550654427United States of Euro-Asia
>>550649398>he thinks they ever stopped
>>550652923We don't have a date when the Osea federation was formed until then it was a bunch of separate nationsUsea is the name of the continent not a country so yes its always been that. Erusea is a country so again yes its always been that >>550654427A name that has no meaning once Usea left Earth and arrived in Strangereal.United States of Euro-AsiaAbout your twistThey only exist in the simulation no such group exist in the Strangeworld.
>>550655736Because nowadays they just give out guns and drugs to random people to start events so they can push rules without anyone checking them
Where and how would Kei Nagase show up in AC8
>>550657656/pol/ is not this place
>>550657813Hopefully at a memorial.Specifically, about six feet underneath it.
>>550657813Do we need a 4th one?She can be a B-21 pilot this time for a bomber gimmick mission.
Ace Combat games can be split into two types depending on what role the player-character has.>(You) are the main character of the whole story/conflict.This started with 5 which is wholly about the player character: the story spends a lot of time on you and your squadron, basically all the characters are people you personally know, and the major story events are more relevant to you than to the war as a whole. This even more the case in 7, to the point where even the other characters know they are just NPCs and count on Trigger to progress the plot. >you are just the best fighter pilot aroundIn 04, Yellow 13 is the "main character" and in Zero it's Pixy. The story is more about them, you are just the one who shoots them down. I'd argue X and 3 are also in this camp, the outcome is dependent on player choices but there is a lot more going on and you are just one part of the story. 06 has aThe question is, What side do you think 8 will be on?
>>5506595798 is clearly going with the 5 route, the whole premise is that (you) take on the role of a PR spectacle but quickly surpass it to be an actual legend.
>>550648727Wing shape too, rear section looks different, so does the fuselage part that connects to the air intake but it's not as visually prominent as some of the other stuff.
So at what point will AC become Macross
>>5506614462007
>>550661446AC6
>>550662473>pixelated as shitWhat is this? AC6 for PS1?
>>550662628A webm from an old xenia version
>>550663243Wait, you can emulate 6?
>>550663512How out of the loop are you? You've been able to do that for years. Cut scenes are still fubar even today but at least the invasion from the stealth dimension has been stopped in its tracks.
>>550663705>Cut scenes are still fubar even todaythat's almost a dealbreaker for me
You can't use Xenia on Windows 11? I'm finished. Way to get my hopes up for nothing.
>>550664182>Windows 11Bwo...
>Windows 11
>>550662473>>550662490I don't see space warfare
>>550664460AC3
>>550662473Then in 2019https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRO4o9XW0D8
>>550664619god I love macross
>>550664619How come you have 66 ADMM while mine is only 16? Is this the Shinden mod pack?
Will Ace Combat 8 run on my Apple Lisa?
I sure hope the Razgriz theme comes back into AC8 in some form. I know that the sub-strata of us AC5 fags could be obnoxious, but i think that the "Unsung War" theme is very important even in a storytelling "meta" way. It's not the "AC5 Soundtrack", it's the literal cycle of Strangereal's wars portraited with music. In AC0 you hear not as a citation (or not *only* because are reused assets) but because it thematically fits in what's happening. A demonized ace, destruction, silence and return as a hero.In AC7 you can hear it only when president Harling in M4 dies. Not *only* because he's important from AC5, but because in that moment the cycle starts again. Trigger becomes a demonized ace. And even in this game that is about drone warfare and dehumanization, this theme's hint is just the "whisper" of an old myth that has awaken once again.I wholeheartedly think that the "Razgriz Theme" is something that trascend the game and it's literally the armonization of the endless cycle of Strangereal's wars.
>>550666225>I know that the sub-strata of us AC5 fags could be obnoxiousI see a lot more shitting on AC5 than the reverse these days desu its getting a bit overdone...
>>550601739>the same visual issueswhich ones
How many armored core pilots do we have in here?What's the venn diagram look like for the armored core and ace combat communities?
>>550666853I played some AC5 and liked it a lot but I don't think I got around to finishing it for some reason. I'm sure my edge has dulled considerably. It's cool and I consider myself a mech lover but I'm also a casual fuck.
>>550666853Unfortunally it is still in the "To play" list
>>550666853I really loved Armored Core 5 myself, now that I've got all these emulators set up I should try the other entries for their games as well
So now that the AC8 announcement and AC7 deep sale has brought in a bunch of new players, why do they always struggle with long day?Is it because it's the first mission in the campaign that actually requires some level of efficient target destruction?
>>550667913yeah at that point i dont think most new players even realize different enemy units give different amounts of score, and that tunnel focusing on a single drone or w/e isnt as efficient as scooping up chunks of the base air defences/infrastructure in single passes
>>5506675285 or 6? Cus 6 was what made me wanna try the other ACs, they don't look like they have a compelling story like 6 but neither did Ace Combat 7 but it's still fun to play
>>550666717Ghosting in replay screen shots you can't see it while its in motion. You'll never know it happens until you hit that screen shot buttonThis image was taken off the PS4 version
Maybe I'm an asshole but the story in 04 and zero blow 5 and 7 out of the water
>>550667353It's great, I had the same start with it myself. I bought it and beat it once, didn't think much of it, got back to it a year later and actually understood wtf was going on.Funny how both AC series are published by the same company, have the same initials and same approach to how they present their narratives, except armored core doesn't really show any faces, interestingly.
>>550669657Sorry yea I meant 6
>>550669860While this one was taken from pcsx2Sure its minor stuff you'll never see or even notice while playing or just watching the replay but when you take screenshots you notice it. I would guess it has everything to do with these games were made for SD not HD and it just one of those things you can't fix as its just how the game was made.
>>550670364>except armored core doesn't really show any facesI think when it comes to something like Armored Core, the character's AC may as well be their face. An extension of their character.
>>550670691When are they gonna remaster those games man fuck I wanna play the trilogy without the distance fog, blurry textures and 4:3 aspect ratio.
>>550671098AC3 is the game that most needs a remaster. The PS2 trilogy is fine as-is, even if all planes become big triangles once they're far away.>4:3 aspect ratioAll the PS2 Ace Combat games support 16:9 on native hardware.
>>550671098>>550671384Yeaaaa 4:3 gang
>>550670985That's what I love about it, it's so good. You see it happen in ace combat a lot too and it works. Sometimes less is more.
>>550671384Oh shit you're right. It's been a while since I last played em.
>>550667913Pretty much. It's also at a point in the game where they may not have unlocked some of the better ground pounding loadouts yet.
>>550670691But yet if you take a shot while playing everything looks fine all the time and in fact sometimes even shots from replay look just fine. Its why I always put it as its just how the game was made. >>550671098>remaster those games They are saving that for the 50th with a complete remaster of all of them remastered in 20K
>>550671601But you really don't need them. Especially if we're talking about only beating the mission(but you can definitely S-Rank it with the F-16 with GBPs, which is your starter plane).You even get a pity recharge on missiles once you run out so even if you dump everything on ground targets you can still get lots of points from shooting down the drones since they only take 1 missile.
>>550671601F-16 comes with UGB that is more than enough to S with out even trying.
>>550667913whenever I watch new players stream speed is your biggest enemy takes a while for them to figure out if you're not actively shooting something you should be full throttle all the time to get from A to B
>>550671634>50th
>>550672004GBPs actually. But there's also the option of taking the Mig-29 with LAGMs.
>>5506675285? Hell, I doubt you'll enjoy the rest of the series as the other games are actually good.
>>550637006I thought emmeria is canada
>>550672290Speed is indeed my biggest enemy because that's exactly what fucking I do and that's exactly HOW I KEEP FUCKING CRASHING
>>550672453lmao anon feeling the consequences of his mistakes i promise this dude doesnt have shit taste
Tasha does the lesbian pose, so she must be a lesbian.
>>550672787Her sexuality will never be commented on in-game and 90% of the fanart will be lesbian so she might as well be a lesbo.
I had to redo this one mission like 10 times because I was running tight on ammo, I think this is the longest I spent on a mission lmao
>>550672787>the lesbian poseThe fuck does that mean?>>550672897All lebsians are women who haven't been dicked properly, it literally doesn't matter.
>>550672787tasha getting shot down and molested by sotoan hotwheels milf
>>550666853Both ACs are near and dear to my heart. Both of them coming back after such long hiatuses was insane, I legitimately lost my shit when AC6 got announced.
>>550672938Man fuck I miss this HUD. You could stare directly at the sun and still see it.Meanwhile in 7 I can literally not see the hud cus half the skyscapes are just a white horizon and I can't see shit.
>>550672938Only realistically because I wasn't satisfied breaking my S rank streak so I autistically redid it until I achieved it. I finally have enough for the SU37!
>>550673259Should've sold that A-10 buddy. The Su-37 would've really come in handy in the mission you just played.
>>550673127My nigga
>>550673385I need to finish going through 6's other routes, maybe after I finish my replay of 7.
>>550672452Yeah I got my games mixed up when Viper did carry UGB plus my very first run of the game I was using F-4 on that mission which does carry UGB's
>>550673490Fair enough. Though the F-4 is a preorder bonus so newfrens won't have it.
>>550673608They did make it available as DLC later on didn't they?
>>550673682Yeah but... who's gonna pay 3 bucks for that?
>>550673608They might as you can buy it now with the rest of the DLC planes.
>>550673336It's alright, being able to accomplish it is satisfying all the same! I got through it with the MiG-21, but I can sell it off now and get the SU37!
>>550673818Its on sale like the rest of the DLC so a lot of people would right now.
>>550673895Jesus... why were you still using the mig-21 by mission 10? Could've at least upgraded to the F-15C or the Su-27 which unlocked last mission. Remember, you lose 0 credits for buying and selling planes so you can just buy them for 1 mission and then sell them immediately after.>>5506740051.5 bucks for a single plane is still a scam.
>>550631531Great on the plains. Problematic when it comes to mountains. Unless it also has a path-clearing superlaser or something. That's be rad.
>>550672787I hate that this character is going to be the next Nagase, where she's the waifu and all the other dudes are trying not to stare.
>>550674134And still the only way to get Pixy, Yellow 13 and Razgriz skins.
>>550673862I would've bought the skin packs but money's tight right now, even if they're on sale I can't be irresponsible with money anymore nowadays.
>>550674182Yeah it'd be limited to open grounds, but it'd be cool. Or fighting off a group of them trying to invade your base.
>>550664182I knew the Xenia devs were some of the worst in the emulator world but man this is ridiculous.
>>550672787>brown eyes so that all of the plain-jane romantasy readers and tumblr fujos can identify with herummmmm her eyes are a beautiful, sparkling green, femchudstasha is 100% straight waifu-coded
>>550671634You didn't destroy the FRIED CHIKEN did you? What are you, a monster?
>>550674134haha... that's a great question
>>550674581On that note, I should get around to playing this instead of bitching about it as if I did. Honestly how they went from fetishizing war in AH to saying "war bad, here have another war to have fun in, but remember war very bad" is such a whiplash. That was their canon moment that changed them forever, they can never make another war drama without having flashbacks to "make metal bleed".The OST honestly isn't bad. The game can't be that bad either, right?
>>550672997Being woman and frowning
>>550675415I wish they'd bring back the plane color scheme editor from AH. It was fun to paint your own plane.
>>550675402Anon I promise it's ok to like the fishbed you can say it
>>550675415It's kinda bad. DFM didn't really work out and feels way too forced and the random chopper gunner and AC-130 gunner missions are awful.But the Heli missions are fun enough and it even has a proper bomber mission featuring cutie patootie Spooky 01. You do a canyon run in a B1-B lancer or a B-2 Spirit.
>>550675747They ought to bring bombers back, they worked well. Also B1>B2 especially for that mission.
>>550676140>They ought to bring bombers back, they worked well.they ought to bring back a plane type that would necessitate an entirely different mission design focus for the 2 people who play ace combat for bombing AA gun mobs
>>550675747I mean sure but at least it's different. Team Aces has tried a lot of interesting stuff over the years and DFM may be annoying but at least they tried something new. The double edged sword is that they'll never do it again, but neither will they do stuff like wingman commands again, or turning on a reticule for manual target switching, or "boss fights" with ace squadrons, or the style meter from zero, or pressure sensitive radar and target zooming, or old school hangar menus, or live target reaction camera, and so and such.Unless it's the fucking aircraft tree from infinity.
>>550676539>but neither will they do stuff like wingman commands again,they are doing that again though?
>>550676539They're bringing wingman commands back for AC8 and I don't see a reason why they wouldn't bring back ace squadron "bosses", they were very well received.
>>550676539>pressure sensitive radar and target zooming,Isnt this on Sony/Xbox for not making gamepads that feature pressure sensitive buttons?
>>550676513I think bombers could work. Let's assume those 2 people are roommates or family members, you can make it so those two players have to communicate with one another in handling the ship like an actual crew would.One steers and navigates the ship, the other is in charge of a handling the payload. Like they have a menu that looks like it's part of the hud that selects the different weapons and bombs the plane is loaded with.It'd be a fun couch multiplayer mode. Nintendo somehow pulled off a fun arena like multiplayer mode for Pikmin 3 that I've had many fun weekends with, I'm sure Team Aces could make something like that, even if there's no story involved and it's just a level select it'd be fun.I know you're joking but it really could work if you had to work together with another person.
>>550677098>handling the shipMan my brain is still in sea of thieves mode
>>550677207A plane is kind of like a boat in the sky
>>550675415Honestly? It's not that bad of a gameBUTIt's a really, really, REALLY bad Ace Combat.
>>550677287Honestly yeah, particularly WW2 and cold war era bombers and planes with an actual crew that goes beyond having a co-pilot.Imagine operating a superweapon in AC but it's you and your two good for nothing idiots like it's a submarine with wings and fifty jet engines.
>>550677657Even judged on its own merits 3 out of 16 missions are terrible FPS missions with really bad FPS controls. And DFM is bad irrespective of whether the game is Ace Combat or not. Not because it doesn't fit with Ace Combat but because it straight up doesn't fucking work.
>>550677835>but because it straight up doesn't fucking work.those clips of someone DFMing and the game outright forcing them into the ground/buildings are hysterical
I think he's breaking up with us
>>550677657I can respect that.Like they were lambasting this game as being call of duty but with jets but that almost sounds like a compliment now cus cod back then accomplished what it set out to do and it got fucking huge. It just followed the zeitgeist like everything else and most of that stuff sucked shit and honestly with that in perspective>not that bad of a gameis respectable.
>>550678495If I grew up with this game in the 2000s cus my parents wouldn't let me play cod then I would talk fondly about it too, like those kids who grew up with sonic 06.
>>550678452She's a beauty
>>550666853Was unironically coping for an AC6 xpac at TGA, that plus AC8 would've turned my legs weak
>>550678885Make sure to save up enough for the FAEB because it's really damn good.
>>550678954That's literally the only AC that i missed playing. Unluckily XboX never was a big thing from where i'm from and even now are extremly hard to find.fml i want to liberate gracemaria like everyone else. And the emulated version is still very scuffed
Why the fuck is an Anean folklore more popular in Osea than any of the Anean countries?
>>550678954jesus christ dlc for ac6 plus ac8 back to back would've killed me I'd be hollering like those dudes at e3 when they revealed twilight princess
>>550679279I love that Armored Core and Ace Combat share the same initials.Bless.
>>550679581I remember when I was playing through ACVI (please) I kept accidentally calling it Ace Combat 6 when talking about it. I had to stop myself mid sentence just to get it right. It really doesn't help that it's the same publisher.Honestly Armored Core x Ace Combat crossover when?
>>550679581i feel dumb now
>>550679006Nyes, I shall heed your advice
>>550679279>>550679581>>550679829I love that this happens and I didn't explain which game series i meant on purpose to make it happen, things get even messier if you're talking to a larger group and they think AC means assassins creed or animal crossing as well>>550679391yeah I mean, friends and I were screaming at each other when AC8 showed up after despairing for years everytime it didn't, the real pain was last year when the announcer was like "a game celebrating its 30 year anniversary" and other stuff and we were on the edge of our seats and it was fucking tekken or some shit, absolute tears of joy this year though
>>550679993Nice.Make sure to use it against the XB-0.
ACZ rewarding OCDs with super plane is always a fun thing to remember
>>550680246I'll try to, if the base doesn't get bombed before I leave
>>550680441You mean the one that you get from S ranking all missions on all 3 styles?Honestly the bigger reward is unlocking the arcade and being able to fight Mobius 1 after S ranking all missions on Ace.
>>550680604Prepare for the long run, and run straight to Avalon
>>550680604When will this franchise stop having coupsCall it Ace Combat: A World with no Coups
Thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KwXePfIgI
>>550681646Here come the smurf planes
>>550682006This is the only thing I dislike about Mercenary runs, Gault's is just infinitely cooler than Sorcerer. Nowadays when I replay ACZ I start on Mercenary and then switch to Soldier after Hoffnung to get Gault in M16.
>>550682006The nuking of Cascadia absolutely was Monarch's fault though.
>>550682284Knight is worse in that mission because you get to fight Wizard. Sorcerer doing the World With no Boundaries in Avalon is infinitely less cool than Wizard doing it.
>>550682487Only thing slightly interesting from Knight is the stealth plen.
>>550680187Dude when this showed up it felt like an electric shock, I stood up in pure ecstasy, tipping over my TV dinner table upon which was a TV dinner half eaten and I made a mess, I can't stand living anymore; ANOTHER thing to keep me alive for the foreseeable future.I spent the rest of the night listening to the Ace Combat: Assault Horizon OST to vent my frustration. My parents yelled at me for being too loud and I was just sobbing just sobbing.
>>550682667The emblem because I cant see through my tears
>>550682006Love those guys. There's something super cool about a squadron deciding to defect from the biggest, baddest country in Strangereal -- who literally just came out completely dominant in the Belkan war -- purely because their belief in their ideals trumped whatever fame or treasures Osea could offer them.The S/MTD is also just such a sexy plane, I love that thing more than any Raptor or Berkut or Belkan space magic. Those 2D nozzles...
>>550682667Hanging on to life just to see another ace combat, based. We'd been making jokes for years during every announcement fading to black it being a jet noise and then ace combat and it finally happened. I'm just happy I potentially get to fly co-op with a friend, he's pretty cool and I'd like to fly with him so it makes me happy. I'm hoping I can drag more friends into the series with co-op stuff
>>550682006I can't wait for PJ to get back to his GF and propose to her
>>550683979I can't wait for the>YAAAAAAAS WE GET TO SEE (beloved character whose only purpose in the story is to die) DIE IN HD LET'S GOOOOwhenever we reach the timeline where zero gets remadeHAHA YIPPIE>does a spinHAHA-GURGGH
>>5506668538 better meet the paint/emblem customization standard set by Armored Core 6. I've made Ace Combat cosplay in Armored Core, I want to be able to do the other way around. What's a good plane to give LOCKSMITH's paint job to, I'm thinking Su-37.
Can I start with AC3? Its story seems interesting
>>550684852yeah bro go fo rit
>>550684852No because the rest of the games starting with 4 never really went back to whatever AC3 did
>>550684628This is exactly how I felt fighting himuntil I figured out I just have to joust him lol
>>550684787Seeing as locksmiths paint is blue on blue, its basically an F2 by default... Nice AC you got there though, the paint makes it look like a TSF
did i just accidentally beat AC0 for the first time in sync with the other guy
Oddly fucking hilarious that everyone I fought (for the most part) didn't end up dying, but they just became actual wagies/jobbers>>550685556lol you might have, because I'm in a gauntlet of cutscenes now
>>550685360I could do F-2, but my reasoning is Freud's on top of the arena in 6, so he probably should be using something at least a little flashy. Not tippy-top of the line, but no shitbox either. On that note, I was thinking an F-22 or some Neucom prototype if we get something like that for OPEN FAITH, since Snail is the sort of fucker who'd pay extra for that. That, and the novelty of an F-22 being used by a bad guy for once.
>>550685769And that's a wrap!
good luck emulating AC6 lmao
>>550685769cool, i'm honestly surprised i beat it before the war thunder event started, although i see now what others meant when they talked about it being replayable. worst part about that though is that means it will never truly leave my digital backlog shelf. i'll probably play 7 after the event, if i don't forget by then.
>>550686587I decided to leave any replayable stuff till after I'm done catching up with 7, after doing all the endings for 3, I wanted to just catch up and finish the story for each game at least once and then move forward
>>550685809aggressor/bad guy paint on F22 goes hard so go for it. I really hope we can paint and decal the planes freely in AC8
>>550682284Sorcerer's interview is the most fun though, dude got traumatized so hard he quit the whole thing to go sell insurance. Gault just died and Wizard is a prison schizo
>>550686447okay now what?
>>550686887you bastard. I wanna play it too dammit.
South Belka
https://x.com/RohanKarMooN/status/2001706958483771866
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>>550685258Little does he know I was just doing that to be goofy don't tell him
>>550523183Recently bought thisThoughts?
>>550686587 (Me)quick addendum to say something i found funny>when playing AC5 i changed aircraft like every other mission on average, probably played a third of the roster at least once>when playing AC0 i bought the fishbed on like mission 3 and never swapped off it for the rest of the gamedespite this i still had a lot of fun with AC0
>>550688241Because Zero has multiple SPW options like a real game, it's a lot easier to use the same plane the whole time, like the F-117.
Having a look at Xenia now. Fuck, these guys are seriously unprofessional. Their shit isn't nearly as ordered or user-friendly as the PSX2 project.
>>550687272>0>woah I hate the north let's surrender to Osea>5>woah I hate Osea let's fuck them up for glorious BelkaStarting to think it's just these retards and the norf are actually decent lads
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