Big Guy EditionPreviously in /coopg/: >>550421272>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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What's the most broken class and why is it <insert class here>?
>WATCH. LEARN. THEN SHOOT YOURSELF.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>550556675Real talk, do you have OCD or what?
>>550556549are you doing this on purposedo you have a progressive neurological disease>>550556547Veteran, probably, though he does have some jank in the way he's played that makes him annoying enough to not bother with.
>>550556675not funny ratanon
>>550556547Ogryn on a fundamental level, not because he's particularly overpowered or non-functional, but because fatshark can't figure out a way to actually balance him. The game design is broken. He's too strong in noob difficulties so he keeps getting nerfed, into then becoming useless at higher difficulties, so he gets buffed into being a golden god in noob difficulties, and then nerfed and the pendulum swings back and again and again.
>>550490761>>550490987>>550556771>Something about 40k just destroys communitiesDing dong nail on head. Having played my fair share of Warhams games because I have a problem, there is just something about them that attracts the absolute lowest common denominators, complete mouthbreathers. Between Darktide and SM2 I've seen a lot of players in great drip, leveled to fuck and yet they're just knuckledragging, going down constantly and shit. My theory is that these are people into the tabletop who are just naturally shit at vidya, but they're playing and not giving up on the game even when they perform terribly because they can bring their fave minis to life.
>>550558040It takes a real special kind of person to shill out a grand for an army only for the next codex update to render them useless. The whole dripped out and looking like a failure is part of the reason why I just use the free cosmetics we got in Darktide. SM2 too. It's also why I'm miffed the really decent looking free cosmetic set (the Moebian 21st) is locked behind buying the game within 2 years of release.
>>550558513Eh, it's really not that bad. Armies have gotten more expensive but are still not a grand, and codex/rules are updated in a pretty slow cycle. There's also all the randomness of dice and missions so even with a weaker faction you'll win a decent portion of the time, so long as you don't play like ass. The minis look cool though and are the main draw of getting into tabletops.
>>550558513>bought the game around release>refunded it>rebought it after arbite came out>kept the 21st cosmeticsFeels good man, especially since it's basically the only decent free zealot outfit.
>>550559596Yep, everything else is space hobo bdsm shit. Which is par for the course for Zealot, but I prefer some more armor on them, or at the very least a decent looking helmet.
>>550559727>>550559596If you're poor just say you're poor
>>550560074I... I'm poor, okay! I'm poor!Are you happy now?
>>550560561Good girl
>>550560561This is what it all boils down to. Poor people complaining about cosmetics that were made for people with money
Honestly even the stuff in the store looks ass.
>>550561106I just let my personal stylist decide what to buy. They haven't made a bad purchase so far
>>550558513The Imperial Guard hasn't changed significantly since 2007. Marine players are the ones who get shafted.
>>550561249Are thou joking? Marine players get a guaranteed 5 releases minimum a year and constant codex updates with powercreep. The ones getting shafted are chaos/xenos.
You WILL join my havoc assignmentWe WILL have fun.
>>550561648post code and region
>>550561623Gaydubya specifically hates non-monogod legions and refuses to give subfactions like Traitor Guard and Dark Mechanicus their own books, despite how they could help sell loyalist kits for kitbashing/conversion.
>>550558513GW changing editions largely doesn't matter.Many, if not most people, just play with their friends, so rules changes have very little impact.And many people stick to the armies they like because they've been collecting, building and customizing them over a long period of time.
>>550561868Oh I didn't expect anyone to respond, I'm still at work sorry. I'm an NA fag but I can queue into Europe comfortably with 80 ping
>>550563314>Traitor GuardWas a thing, they lost their faction like 12 years ago at this point. It was because they didn't want to make models since they were mostly conversion based armies. >Dark MechGW knows that if they sell this, AdMech players will skin them alive since Dark Mech will be as a rule given Mechanicum units from HH that the Mechanicum have (and the AdMech still do) but GW refuses to give to AdMech in order to keep the two armies separate. It'll mean that every AdMech player sells their army almost every night or just tears them apart for conversions in order to subsidize the cost of building a new army from scratch since their army is already by far the most expensive in the entire game. The seething would be fucking insane and GW is too stubborn to do anything.
>>550561648No, please! I'm not havoc ready! I swear I'm not!
>>550558893>Armies have gotten more expensive but are still not a grandGenestealers, AdMech, Orks, Nids, and Guard. The first two (assuming you aren't simply just building the cheapest shit posssible) is like $2-2.50 a point. Genestealers are functionally the same. Orks and Nids and Guard all have the same problem of using tons of units, but Guard can be quite expensive depending on which units you want to mix in or flavor Guard it is. All of them are going to run over a grand without trying.
what time is slop o'clock
>>5505658873 hours or so? I can't remember. 3 or 4.
dead game, dead general
maybe im doing something wrong but this game just feels worse than vt2 in every way
>>550571109the pigs are eagerly anticipating the fresh slop bucketit is the same slop as before, the farmer just scoops it all out into a bucket and then puts it back inplease don't tell the pigs, it would crush them
>>550571247
>>550571247*BZZT*WRONGThis is fresh slop with completely different colors and models
Psyker is the bestest and the strongest and also the best and also the strongest
The slop is here but it isn't the recolored enforcer stuff
the slop is rancid
is damage the dump stat on sneedle?
>hive scum didn't get any new cosmetics this time around eitherI'm starting to get the feeling that they might not be getting any new cosmetics like arby.
>>550573061Yeah, damage literally doesn't matter, the rest matters at least a little
>>550573061yes, as well as stopping power
you're getting coal for Sanguinalathat will 12$ for standard edition, 18 for deluxe coal edition
>>550556405you're a big heretic
gak...?
>>550573061Damage.
>>550573515ACK!
>>550573515he was trying to call out a gunner, so sad...
>be me>be new psyker>see group of gunners>think i'm targeting shotgunner for soulblaze>actually targeting regular gunner>get no soulblaze>pull mobs>there was 10 maulers and 7 ragers hidden in the pack>o bother
>>550556675explain yourself
>BASEBALL CAPSLMAOOOOOOOOOOOwhere the fuck is my voxcom backpacks you N SLURS
>>550576443>ratfags are gross subhumansThis isn't news
darkjeet sama...
>>550576443>>550576851This is based on your search history
>Scummie gets nothingErrrmmmm what the science my fellow rejects??? I thought everyone said arbie getting no cosmetics was just a stupid geedubs thing that totally wouldn't happen with the scummie because reasons?
>Mannheim's Fury is back in the shopHoly fuck. That is the first time in 2 years. Grab it now if you like that gun, it's the only black camo Plasma, and it's the only one that uses the other model.
Hive scum are just ballistic psykersLet that sink in
>>550578708Thanks JJ902
>>550578997The guy who cheated in super mario 64?
>>550578708>ranged scummera flame staff psyker downgrade, correcthe's more fun and easier to use, though>tox and crate scummera support zealot side gradeno gold toughness but I think a lot of the shit he brings to the table is a lot more significant and I'd say he does more damage>melee scummerthis is what zealot wishes he was, this is what everyone wanted zealot to be at launch, this is what the knife copers have been wanting for agesI love ityou can keep the sink outside, though
>>550577586Squeal louder, my little piggy hehehehe oink oink
commissar set worth oinking even though i only use achievement cosmetics because store bought stuff usually is an indication that someone is shit?
>>550580001My god you're truly retarded.
>>550580001Newb here, based on my own ideology Penance Cosmetics prove that you at least read. The penances may not be the end-all-be-all hints at strategies but it does convey the idea that you READ and can solve a very easy PUZZLE. Commissary just proves you can bash your head against a wall for o-bucks and just BUY your look instead of "EARNING" it. The penances aren't even fucking hard. 90% can be done on Malice.
>>550580079pattern recognition therefore smart however
>>550580001>>550580161Slav coded posts
>>550580287Also the penance cosmetics tend to look better. More purity seals and stuff.
>>550580319100% slavgroid coded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hj3U18FHgQ
>>550580456They look cool in the setting. Did I insult your izzat somehow? I think Vishnu is a dumb cuckold and should be forgotten entirely. Do you think the same?
>>550580519Calm thy ovaries, Pidor, just get drafted in Ukraine and die.
>it's an actual izzat poster who cannot insult Vishnu
Me: wants some slopThem: Give the worst slop possible
I'm tired, here's a less retarded version:Not my screenshots, nothing for arbeetus and HCUM
Them: Wants moneyAlso them: No I won't give you things to buy
Jolly Oinkers Piggerino
>>550579227>>melee scummer>this is what zealot wishes he wasZealot is the better melee class and has cooler and better weapons.
wait are we mad at the commissar thing because the uniform is russian or something
>>550580001>store bought stuff usually is an indication that someone is shit?No, not really.
>>550582246IM AFRAID IT IS SO
>>550582169no...? the hell are you yappin about sonny jim
>>550558040the vast majority of players do not interact with the tt at all, its like 0.00001%, its just normies, and normies are bad at games, this isnt rocket science
>>550582169>the uniform is russian or somethingWhat? I don't see a big brown spot on the pants bottom?
>>550582169No it's because the commissar outfit is the best looking one in the slopshop and I wouldn't be surprised to learn 90% of the playerbase already owns it. Fartshart is just proving to be the WalMart of fashion sense.
>>550582169No clown shoes, not russian
>>550580001I don't like red berets (though this looks more like brown which is even worse, but it could be filters, don't want to start the game to check)pants are extremely genericYou could just grab the body, set is is meh. But I already have too much cosmetics on veteran, I'll pass.
Bought the Armageddon vet forever ago. It might have even been the first thing in the store. Looks pretty good in this meanwhile they fucked up the Krieg sets
>>550583167NIGGERS!
INSANE NEW COSMETICS FOR ARBY AND SCOOM
>>550582335No, not really.
>>550583309>jebediahRaze that barn, boy
some nice dicksucking veil cosmetics for psykers
>>550582169I dunno, there's like only 2 options what it is.1. guys who are butthurt that someone is spending their own money on something that doesn't effect them.or2. it's just bunch of guys just shitposting as a low effort trolling.Pick your poison, I guess.
>>550583435Love that fetish.
comissar larpers are usually fat and ugly
>>550583435>>550583536I prefer the penis nose veil
>>550583435>sees a veil>instantly thinks about sucking dicks
>>550582139>better melee classvery funny joke>cooler and better weaponsyeah wow you have the choice of>thammeryou're memeing, very cool, enjoy waiting for the monstrosity to show up only for the vet to krak it to death before you even set up your stacks>relicamazing horde clear, dogshit everything else>dueling swordyour actual meta pick, you fucking book slave, and it's SHIT
>>550583435I would take this veil without the hat in a heartbeatwhy the fuck do so many psyker cosmetics cover the eyesTHEY GLOW, I WANT TO SEE THEMfatshark literally does not want my money
>>550583774Yeah turns out glowing eyes in the Imperium is not a good thing and Psykers aren't exactly the poster children of the Astra Militarum. Just be glad you weren't executed, bud.
>>550583656Meta pick for book sissy cumslut cockslave bitch boys is knife
Is The Outlast Trials any good? Every person on every review seems to be sucking it's dick and it looks like it's still getting new content and decent playercount. Might pick it up
>>550583774Psykers that get soulbound to E Money usually suffer some kind of disfigurement or are psychologically unhinged by the experience, blindness is a fairly common one, so they cover their eyes.
>>550583656>very funny jokeIt's true, zealot is better at melee than hive scum and they don't instantly fold to a mild breeze.>thammerYou're the one that brought this up. Not me.It's still a good weapon, most people are just mindbroken by the dueling sword and can't use anything else after using it once.>>relic>amazing horde clear, dogshit everything elseJust by you saying this I can already tell you don't play zealot at all.>dueling memeWay to expose yourself even more.
>>550584875only one of the personalities is soulbound tho>>550584925you think melee scum isn't god tier, by default your opinion has no value
>>550584925Something very satisfying about poking the rager's and mauler's heads off. Recently been using the combat knoife and it's also fun. Newb question: What is rending? Does it just reduce carapace armor?
>>550585075rending increases your damage against armor types
>>550585048The cosmetics approved by GW are taken from sanctioned psyker wargear, who are all soulbound. Psykers pretty much just use their mindsight anyway, far superior to normal sight unless you're standing next to a pariah.
>>550585214I see, so it's kinda like the opposite of brittleness?
>>550585265rending is personal, brittleness is teamwide
>>550585265Rending only applies to your own attacks, brittleness is a debuff applied to the enemy. They do the same thing pretty much in that they allow damage to bypass armor, but brittleness can be exploited by the whole team.
>>550585383>>550585478So Brittleness is probably the better option if it is given, but Rending is not bad if your role is to focus armor.
>>550585507it depends, because rending is good for weapons with bad armor pen against certain armor types, brittleness is only really valuable against crushers
>>550585507Ideally you'd have as much of both as you can if you're taking on an anti-armor role, but brittleness is rare on talent trees, you'd usually have to sacrifice a blessing slot on your weapon to have enough of it to matter. If you can take a brittleness talent without compromising your build, it's worth taking, but you should take up rending first and then have a weapon blessing to apply brittleness since it's almost always a better source for stacks.
What are the odds you guys figure that the Arbites and Scum get continued support? It sorta sounds like Fatshark are a bit nervous to prioritize giving them (just going off Arbites) future weapon options because of the fallout that might emerge by giving a DLC class a new weapon over one of the base classes that still need certain hallmark weapons. Or in the case of the Ogryn: literally any weapon.
>>550586078>continued support>giving a DLC class a new weapon>OgrynSMALL INDIE COMPANYPLEASE UNDERSTAND
>>550586078If they get new weapons, there'll be freebies for all classes, so it's never going to happen because Fatshark has no financial incentive to do that, Darktide doesn't get freebies as often as Vermintide.
i want a non-reddit psyker voice holy shiti know they're quirky chungus schizos but how about 1 that shut's the fuck up >MY BELOVED DURR>(inane bitching)>mystical nigger voice
>>550586414Female savant is the least offensively annoying psyker but she still occasionally says some stupid bullshit about THE LEX ATOMA
>>550586486yeah she has a cute voice
>>550586414Don't worry, Morty, we're gonna get the alcoholic grandpa who st-stutters, Morty. It's all in due time. Duuuuue time.
>>550586414You will never get a sane psyker, they're all fucking nuts. Best you can hope for is that they just rip off DoW's sanctioned psyker directly who just laughs, screams and sobs and mutters incoherently.
>>550586414black psyker is genuinely the way to go
>>550586486>i was enforcer
How are you all liking the new genestealer cultist class?
>effortlessly clutch aurics no matter how bad things are>Die in ways so humiliating in havocs I'm pretty sure people are blocking me afterwardIt's getting to a point where I'm the last one to be picked up and am regularly declined in parties
>>550586714It's not a genestealer cultist. >We await the day the Emperor will descend from the sky with his great golden host.
WTF, it really is ChristmasHalfway decent cosmetics in the slop shop....
>>550586414I actually enjoy the male dreamer. I think he has a lot of really good lines for other characters.
>>550586078I think they'll give both arbites and scum new weapons for free eventually. There is that very old steam blogpost or whatever where they detail that new maps and new weapons would be entirely free.I'm not sure what kind of weapons they'll get.But knowing fatshark and seen what they have done in past with Darktide, they'll just most likely make a 1 or 2 new weapons that are shared by all the human classes and then ogryn only gets 1.
>>550588047>Halfway decent cosmetics in the slop shop...
>>550588306the ocular cosmetic clips with anything you'd want to wear it with and leaves a dumbass space between the jaw and neck wrap... its so over
>>550588438everything is trash
>>550558040i play these games cause im so zonked out by schizo meds my brain is completely numb
>>550561623See this is what I mean. You think that getting constant updates and new models is good, when it actually means that you're getting ripped off over and over.The Guard by contrast has had the same models for decades with minor additions that are mostly just minor permutations on a Rus or Chimera frame, or the Kriegers which everyone begged for for a generation.
>>550588886many such cases
>>550588616most of it would be passable with another pass on the morphsit looks ridiculously stocky and ill-fitting in far too many cases
>>550583167>No free cosmetics event for Darktide again
HELP THEY FUCKING TURNED ME INTO AN OGRYN DOLL
>>550589165FUCK. And to think I could almost have 1000 "free" Aquilas and spend them on... I don't know, a fucking curio skin that no one can see.Very cool.
>>550589165>versusbucks>anything worthwhile
>>550589317kek
>>550589317another ogryn nerf
>>550589317*GASP* Just like the gypsy woman said!
>>550581298COAL! IT'S COAL!!!
>>550589317Taken to the smexual dungeons
>>550588986I mean, I'd like for there to be more support for alternative guard regiments. Having to kitbash like crazy is not good on the wallet.
>>550589969is that from "that" game?
>>550580001
>>550589317>The Fear & Hunger Experience
>>550589317>runs off with you in hand
>>550590209he will look cool as I revive him!
>>550588250>There is that very old steam blogpost or whatever where they detail that new maps and new weapons would be entirely free.They also said new classes could be free and aquilas would be earnable during normal gameplay, until the truth was updated.
>>550591473The difference is that the part that discusses new weapons and maps is completely unambiguous, they blatantly state that new weapons and maps will be free. It's the reason why they haven't gone back on that.What they didn't promise anything is the new classes or aquilas being free. That's different because they have plausible deniability with that.I 100% guarantee you that if Fatshark had been more vague with the new maps and new weapon shit, like they did the same>"new maps and weapons might be free, but we aren't settled yet"The devs would 1000% be charging US out the ass for mediocre map and weapon packs, that contain like 1 new map and 2 new weapons (1 shared by all human classes, 1 for ogryn), and then the said pack costs like 25€.
>>550590349my camera was stuck there for a few minutes and I literally couldn't do anything, everyone else died yet I still counted as alive but the only thing that affected me was gaseventually I got unstuck somehow and clutched up with somebody who re-joined
>>550590209>Power falchion >When the old Power sword or even Tactical/Combat axe kills faster and performs better
>>550592278y would u assume something that isnt happening
>>550592278charging for a map is a terrible idea thoughplayer pool of like 10 dweebs
>>550589425>play darkturd>get a frame or insignia as "unique" reward
>>550593958this game is practically free to play since it was offered in a humble monthly, they have to make money somehow
>>550593958>charging for a map is a terrible idea thoughAnd you think that stops Fatshark? The same devs who created the original dogshit crafting system in Darktide?
>>550595218Yeah but charging for a game mode or a map just means those things are completely dead on arrival because only a fraction of the player base will purchase it, but you need 4 players to fill a game. Splitting an already divided player base even further is patently retarded. We've seen what havoc did to game quality, with aurics going from often having shitters, to almost exclusively having shitters. We've seen how DLC game modes play out in ratclick.
Sienna filters me, her beam staff sometimes deals pityful dmg sometimes nukes
>>550595508Fartshart will let people QP into games hosted by people who own the DLC. Standard practice for them, really.
>>550595218people still sub to humble monthly?
>>550595218>tfw you realize you play a f2p game and that's why it's filled with brazilians and slavgroidsgrim
does zealot's stun nade have any use?
>>550596012Sweet new Bardin drip.
>>550596012>when your are 6 years old and parents buy you too big clothes in hopes you "grow" into them
>>550595982stunning i think
>>550595982Locking down dense hordes of armor (think melee maelstroms and havoc), going for safe-ish revives, rarely to help with objectives.I think they're simultaneously zealot's strongest blitz, but also the least broadly applicable in generic aurics, and I go some matches without throwing a single one. They're absolutely vital to me in havoc and I wouldn't want to give them up.
>>550592278I would pay thst csuse I'm not poor and I'd have more weps and maps now
DLCs with maps and weapons for everyone > DLCs with classes and weapons locked to them
Basically, see everything Vermintide 2 did? Do that again.
>>550593527>you can only ever use things for meta, never for fun
How's the crowbar?
>>550596012unironically more soulful and funnier than anything in the game
>>550596956Tranner says it's dogshit and Mr. Sneed says it's good. I don't know what to think now because I can only get my opinions from jewtubers.
>be coopg shitter>complain about uzi scum not killing crushers>be plebbitor>complain about uzi scum not killing crushers>be fagshart forum user>complain about uzi scum not killing crushers>be steam forum user>say the most retarded shit imaginable to get thirdie points to buy cosmetics with>be me>kill crushers in half a magScum will receive ginormous buffs because nobody can play it, and I'm not sure how to feel about it.
>>550596012
>>550596937>ImplyingMetafaggots only care about Dueling sword, I point that Falchion is really bad compared to old weapons
>>550597545They can do fuck all to his killing power for all I care. I just want them to retard proof his toughness damage reduction so hiv cums in my team stop going down to the slightest breeze
>>550597545>>kill crushers in half a magPost build or didn't happen.
>>550596012Don't worry honey you'll grow into it
>>550597902>Post buildNo, I refuse to spoonfeed you thankless faggots anymore, it'll just start some retarded izzat argument. If you don't know how, skill issue.
>>550597743>implyingPower sword > dueling swordNoob
>>550597545>to get thirdie points to buy cosmetics withwhat
>>550598068Translation: no because I keep making up shit and my proof gets called out so to save face and no longer suffer embarrassment, I'll continue to shit-post, but can not substantiate what I say.In future, just ignore these people, coopg. This guy is an evident rage-baiter.
>>550598068It's not like its hidden, they just dont actually look at the skills and talents. There are a grand total of two things for ranged rending and you take them and rape crushers, this isnt rocket science
>>550598234Steam has this points currency you get for spending money on the platform. You can use those to make your profile pretty. You can buy reactions using those points, awarding (a portion of?) those points to the recipient. Poorfag thirdies are deeply vain but also too poor to acquire points the normal way, so they resort to baiting on the steam forums for clown reactions.
>>550598068So it didn't happen. Got it.
>>550598297woman coded post
>>550598415ah lol I thought cosmetics in game
>>550583435>>550583536Patrician fetish anonshttps://files.catbox.moe/3z8nu9.webm
>>550596012Is this how it actually looks like in the game if you make the smallest size ogryn? I'm new and I didn't even know there was a height slider for them. If that's what it actually looks like on the smallest size tho I'm going to buy this shit and make an ogryn that's fucking funny
>>550599208
ah yes..NA hours
>>550600106Ewuro hours (late afternoon for them), it's early morning for yanks currently.
>>550600106
>>550596956>>550597427https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6991dSBReg
>>550598297>>550598460Translation:>I'm retarded, can't read, don't understand basic game mechanics, and would lash out even when spoonfed every step of the way, because the implication of not knowing how insulted my pro gamer izzatYou just fucking suck, skill issue. Go figure out the build on your own, it's not that hard. If my dogshit aim before breakfast can manage this, then so can you in an actual real game scenario.
>>550583167Wait you can get the shark hat? Am I still able to nab it?
>>550600320fuck sake another tranner wannabe who only lift in the psykanium
>>550600649Case in point. Kill yourself.
>>550599208I don't think I needed to see that.
>>550600425Should be up for another day or 2.
>first havoc game of the day>nimble hiv cum flings himself off the ledge twice in the first minute (very first room of engagement)Holy shit. Just when I start to warm up to this garbage class there's a new level of retardation that begs me to avoid them again.
>>550600851maybe you shouldn't browse a website with a dedicated dickgirls board, then
>>550600320It's just the same guy you raped yesterday trying to troll you now bud
>2 hours for steam salewhat are ya buyin'?
>>550601229You'll have to wait and see, anon. What a silly question.
>>550601229nothin'unless Helldoodoo 2 is like 75% off or something
>>550600320>hidding dps numbersYou are clearly using uprising psykhanium, keep yourself safe
>>550601348would buy it as well if not for that chink "anticheat"
>>550601514I mean Fatshart's anti cheat isn't any betteras I recall Darktide beta's anti cheat bloat had to be removed manually even if you uninstalled via Steam
>>550601138There’s no board like that here though…>>550596840Sure but classes are cool too
>>550601514What linux distro do you use btw
>>550602169hd2 anticheat works on linux thoi use artix s6 btw
>>550602242Fair.A hilarious amount of people I see complaining about anticheat end up being normgroids using win11
>>550596012Kino!Fatshark does it again!Thanks for the laugh!
>>550589425pretty much>>550595832but enough about vermintide
>>550560561that’s hot>>550559596damn based Fatshark they know what’s up at least
>>550571109Dead games, you mean>>550571890Lore accurate>>550573515God I wish they would stop strapping random junk to the helmets
I'm the only FBC: Firebreak fan in the world.
>>550603408you're a fan of the concept, not the actual game in any way
>>550603558I think the game is fun but it just lacks depth and replayability.
>>550576443>>550576831ohnonononono ratroon xisters…….>>550580456>RATniktelling……….
r8 my zealot build with flamethrower/duelling swordshould I move blood redemption and purge the unclean for those 2 bottom bleed talents?should I replace blood redemption with vicious offering?
>>550603862wtf
>>550603650>make a l4d clone>don't make it replayablehow do devs keep failing at the most important aspect of any horde shooter???
>>550603650You don't actually believe FBC Firebreak is fun, it's literally not a real videogame
>>550582674jej>>550583598>>550583648>>550583536>>550599208something is wrong with you
>>550599313>>550599946>>550600851>>550586893>>550582335>>550561648When are we going to get characters who look like this?
>>550604401you mean felinids? soon
>>550586414You’re retarded if you don’t think the beloved male is the best voice for the class. The femjeeta one is fairly inoffensive if you can get past the accent. The French one is great for the accent but the lines are boring.
>>550604439We already have felonids
>>550604845the big E has good taste
>>550602451oh i wasnt that anon i just mentioned it
MK IV or MK V Blaze Force Sword? which is better
>>550604845ADD FELINID TO DARKTIDE
>>550605682they are nexttrust the plan
>>550604845By the Emperor, the Ecchlesiarchy is NOT gonna like this one bit.
>>550605556>normal force swordDeimos blaze force sword MK IV. L1 H1 chad stab takes care of any issues you may be having.The other marks just have more easy crowd control but don't have nearly as versatile attacks, especially against carapace. You sacrifice some horde clear on your light chain, but you really shouldn't be attacking hordes with your melee as psyker if you're playing a staff build.
>>550584715game is pretty spooky. lot of cool outfits though
>>550606074tyty
>>550600964>2nd game>on Clandestium>the very start (that long skinny area that's awful designed like everything related to falling off ledges and push mechanics)>2 pogryn, 2 beasts and a captain immediately amongst swarm of billion reapers (thankfully rumbler killed all reapers immediately, it has great aoe for that)Funny how broken this game gets with spawns sometimes. Only shows maximum of 2 boss bars but you can have 5 instantly on spawn.
>>550600964I did it last game by accident lol
>>550607442Do you need to primarily dash backwards instead of sideways?
Whats a good ranged weapon for Zealot that isnt the flamethrower?
>>550607894What difficulty?
>>550607797there were enemies up front, wall to the left and void to the rightapparently there was also nothing behind
>>550607948Auric
>>550608216Bolt pistol. Flamer in non high havocs is pretty pointless. Bolter is okay, revolver decent too.
we did itplease clap
>>550603930Because they tried to make it like Deep Rock in terms of gameplay, but Left 4 Dead in terms of handmade levels that don't change. The objectives don't change often enough in dynamic ways to make each run of a level different.
>>550608398congratulations anonymous!!! Now you no longer need to dedicate your life to this video game :D
>>550607380>3rd (retry with same team as before)Let's just say, demotion because somehow psyker vet martyrdom thammer zealot can't do any damage to bosses. So two swarms throw me back and isolate me. I'm sick of how even in high havocs if I go down the team wipes. But someone else goes down it's rarely into a wipe. Too much pressure to always be on me and seldom on others. Even if I don't use taunt the faggot monsters always focus me anyway. It's impressive how poorly designed this game is and you really see it in higher difficulties. So many ledges, any push is instead a knock over terrain and fences, and how beasts and spawn have command grabs.>ogryn gets ragdolled about the exact same way as humiesHow lazy is fatshark.
>>550599208Fuck off faggot.
>>550608398Nice, now join MY havoc assignment
>>550608728>two swarmsTwo spawns. Too mad to even proofread.
>>550599208Kill yourself
>>550608731>>550609013nice samefag
Can someone tell me what to build for Melee Hiveri feel like im missing something
>>550609475>i feel like im missing somethinghave you tried hitting the enemy?
>pick assault chainsword on zealot>mfw shitting on bosses
>>550609571Kinda, what im currently on is Bleed/Aids Shivs with Dependency and Hyper ViolenceSurprisingly mows through hordes stupidly fast
>>550609271Kill yourself too
>>550584715It's fun and playing through the trails is addicting I like stealth games so this scratches an itch for me
>>550609632Prove it
>>550609013>>550608731cool it with the homophobia please
>team just goes to find every nook and cranny for items, etc. instead of just going through the mapgood lord
>>550610731>team has fun instead of being miserable gay russians that exclusively play this game in their spare timesounds based
>>550610731Dont like it, play solo. simple as.
>two/three bots every match
Any World War Z niggas in here?we eating goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qerr0roEDGA
>>550593527The Falchion's fine to use. Other stuff being better doesn't mean you shouldn't ever use it.
>>550611601>>550612395>get left behind and dieOopsie
>>550611601NTA but from my experience those are the exact players who go down every 2 minutes and are responsible for mission screens reading "Deaths: 12(+)", so if you're such an expert on>>team has funthen please explain to me how they are having fun hugging the ground or sitting at the totem pole for 70% of the game.For the record, I don't mind loot goblins, as long as they actually belong in that difficulty. I'm okay with going slow to check corners. I'm not okay with some retard needing to be picked up every 3 steps because he can't survive without having his hand held every step of the way.
>>550590209Genocide every power fagchion user
>>550612827why? I'm new and it looks cool so I was going to use it for a bit
>>550614015Anon is likely just holding a grudge because there was some either genuinely autistically obsessed or simply trolling retard a while ago who tried to die on the hill of falchion being good somehow, despite being a disappointingly mediocre weapon that is only truly good at chaff clear.There's some weird pattern of the weapon being used by obnoxious assholes.
>>550614231ty anon and begone falchion schizo
>>550614353More like bound by DOODY!!!
>>550593527it's a fashion statement
>>550593527The melee slot on vet is largely irrelevant anyways
>>550615604Careful, you'll aggro the horde of heresy "melee vet" players
>>550614231Unless we're thinking of two separate instances, the argument I recall was one anon saying the Falchion was bad and several others saying it wasn't great but wasn't bad either.
>>550614880The Lex will hear about this
servers shitting themselves right now
>>550583435https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Z5YiXNcxA
>>550614231When discussing what is "good" or "bad" always consider which standard is applied. Something can be good and rape Aurics but fall behind hard on Havocs, and most people don't ever specifiy these things in discussionsThat said I haven't used the Falchion much I'm just saying, people always screech about>NO IT'S GREAT YOU JUST SUCK! >NO IT SUCKS DICK YOU'RE PLAYING ON MALICE! but they will never agree to just say>yes it's good on aurics but falls behind on h40 because the meta changes
>>550616530The power falchion is a sub auric weapon
>>550616697in the hands of a sub auric player.
>>550616697It performs fine in Aurics, anon. You just need a couple melee talents and you can 3-shot Maulers at like 2800 DPS from a cold start. Even on Crushers, with a single crit, you can hit similar DPS. Its biggest problem is the power state, but it still functions okay against weaker enemies while recharging. It's obviously outclassed by a number of weapons, but if you can't bring it to Aurics, you might just be bad at the game.
>>550616530>>yes it's good on aurics but falls behind on h40 because the meta changesThe weird part is that the opposite is true.In havoc, you bring a veteran to shoot things dead. You don't want the veteran to melee very much, and when he does, only to defend himself against straggler trash that made it through because everyone is distracted with the armored horde that isn't worth using kraks on, or you already used them all on the boss train half a minute before.BECAUSE vet is only expected to defend himself against trash, and because the falchion is perfectly serviceable at that, it's fine to use in havoc. Power sword is obviously better in every way, but everyone acknowledges that.In aurics, you need to defend yourself against literally everything because you might as well not have teammates in the average game. Having a dedicated horde clear weapon is pointless when you get raped by ragers as a result.
>>550576443As expected of TOW secondaries
>>550617117Sorry *a couple melee talents OR Focus Target
>>550617262A rashad would be better
>>550600320>I KILLED A CRUSHER WITH A HALF A MAG>look inside>desperado
Martyrdom is the way for the relic blade?
>>550573515Get All Karkers
>>550618012>using the good abilityYes, and?
>>550618025Martyrdom is not the way for anything
>>550618143I thought it was good?
>>550618143NTA but I agree and yet most zealots you see in havocs are martyrdom. But also, most zealots that use flamer use the crit and continuous fire blessings. Disgusting!
>>550618209Lol
>>550617262sounds good in theory but i think there's a pretty good reason we don't see good vets use it in havoc 30-40. Anything is serviceable for pushing bursters and killing poxies. But falchion sucks vs armor, sucks vs bosses, and doesn't have great movement speed. So why bother?
>>550618096Thanks for not going the anti-semitic route!
>>550616530I just started playing recently but what I've learned is that if the weapon cannot reliably kill a crusher then everyone says it's just dog shit and unusable trash. As Veteran it doesn't seem as dire tho since you can bring kraks but that seems to be the end all be all of weapon conversation.Can kill crusher fast? Weapon good. Take long time to kill crusher or can't? Fuck you FatShark you ruined x weapon
>>550618308Care to tell me why?
>>550618209it is good
>>550610731I want to look for plasteel and diamantine for the players who need it, even if it is a small amount.
>>550618515You like getting down by every instance of unavoidable damage?
>>550618209>>550618515Don't listen to shitters from here, anon. Martyrdom is a great keystone but you have to actually play the game or you get folded by poxwalkers like this retard >>550618308
Which weapons do you think need buffs or a redesign and what would you suggest?
>>550618112Meaning the whole "half a mag" shit doesn't matter because desperado quite literally gives you infinite ammo.
>>550618692martyrdom is tankier than you think it is
>>550618737Are you fucking retarded?
>>550618737you still have to reload>>550618729hellbore
>>550618025Might be. Depends on what allows you to 1-combo Crushers now. If you can kill Crushers in a HHL set without Martyr, then you might as well just run BP and be safer (or IJ I guess? But I don't like the keystone much, especially on slow weapons). I haven't done much with my Zealot since the rework so I can't really say what works best with Relic Blade.>>550618729>Heavy Sword needs to be able to handle Carapace. >Shredder Autopistol needs a big buff.>Infantry Lasguns need a bit of a buff (even just removing recoil would be a big boon to them).>Hellbore needs some fucking sights that aren't ass
>>550618729Lasguns: more damage.that's literally it.>>550618468correct for the most part. Obviously depends on difficulty. Relying on ammo or grenades to kill crushers can work, but if you run out of munitions and there's 65
>>550618692kek /coopg/ not beating the allegations as usual, Telopots was right about this place.
>>550619017>coopg is one person
>>55061896765 crushers walking into the room then you want to be able to deal with them. autoposted lmao
>>550619017is he still using sharty lingo and hanging with ruskies or groomers
>>550619082Yes, and he's a big fat retarded shitter.
>>550618845And it still doesn't matter because the ammo is infinite.>>550618824Nigger, this shit here is just desperado 2.0.It is not at all impressive to say "I killed this really tough enemy with half a magazine, oh btw I used the abilities which give you infinite ammo anyway which completely negate the ammo loss part anyway, meaning this whole gimmick means nothing."Since you could do this shit with any other weapon, like fuck it, do it on braced autogun. Is it magically good suddenly? Fuck no, it's still an absolute trash weapon.
>>550619273I hate to tell ya, anon, but BAG is actually fairly decent on Hive Cummer BECAUSE of all their ammo regen and ranged immunity gimmicks.
>>550618729Buff the light attacks on the slab shield. Make the faster and give them more damage so it's sensible to combo both heavy and light attacks instead of just mindlessly spamming Heavy 1 on a macro.Also give us a slab shield with a power maul already, the current slab shield itself is ALREADY called a "slabshield_powermaul" within the game files, meaning the devs are 100% aware what the weapon combination is actually meant to be.
>>550619273????What the fuck kind of cope is this lmaoEveryone bitches about crushers being such a problem on gun-scum, and the video shows 5 crushers dying in 12 seconds proving that to be incorrect. That's all. Whatever you're making up in your schizo head has nothing to do with it, also you're wrong.
>>550619273the 2x SMGs is an objectively good weapon, i don't understand why you're trying to argue otherwise. If you have functioning sensory organs you'll understand this.
>>550619563And make powermaul completely irrelevantAre you Swedish?
>>550619681you DO realize it's possible to update the powermaul too, right? like it's not set in stone.
so when are we getting a big stubber for veteran? or hive scum?
>>550619681Give the shield variant enough of a different strength to exist alongside the powermaulBoth the shockmaul and the shield+maul on arbi is pretty good, and neither are supreme desu
>>550619082i doubt we're more that 60 anons in here
>>550620585that's a whole army!
>>550620489I'd say the shield flashbang is insanely powerful and leaves all other weapons in the fucking dirt, but then again, nobody ever uses the special on their melee weapons unless they're power weapons. QP arbitards don't even know the flashbang exists. Coopg still tries to deny that the dueling sword stun stab was hideously overpowered and losing it was the biggest nerf. I doubt most of the players here know that tac axes can stop charging mutants.
>>550618025Yeah, matyrdom is shrimply better for all of the low finesse/low crit value weapons because BP doesn't actually give you much benefit in that regard compared to attack speed and a minute increase in base damage.BP however is still taken in the context in havoc for the crit aura applying to everyone in coherency which is much more important.
>>550620057Veteran and Arbites
>>550620057When arbites gets any new cosmetics.
>>550620896>Coopg still tries to deny that the dueling sword stun stab was hideously overpowered and losing it was the biggest nerf.I assumed everyone knew this. Never seen anyone say otherwise.
>>550620982But I only play auric/maelstrom
supportsissying?in MY havoc games!???
>>550621113Some contrarian retard had a whole-ass melty about it and then declared he won the argument when he asked for proof (that was obviously impossible to give without autistically digging through recordings because the thing got patched out of existence lmao)
>>550619681You can easily keep the current power maul relevant by not sharing some of the blessings with the shield + power maul.For example leave Power Surge onto the single power maul.And give the shield + power maul different blessings. Could also make the power mauls work different, the single power maul keeps the 12 second cool down with a fuck huge AoE and damage.And if this makes it not as strong just make the cool down shorter, make it like 8 seconds or even 6 seconds.While the shield maul would be more spammable with 6 second cool down, maybe smaller radius, but as bonus it has a built in power cycler so you get 2 hits with the power maul per power activation.
>Chorus>Blazing piety (team wide)Aaaaah, time to leech some havocs!
SupportCHADS run this place.
Reminder that any claims of support zealot "getting carried" are a matter of>in your handsbecause even "support" zealots deal millions of damage and have greater responsibilities than the average psyker
>>550621790Ogryn is the better support class, don't bring dead weight to the team.
>>550621790Everyone can deal millions of damage when you're playing ""support"" and adding 15 minutes to the mission timer.
CONCORDILLIONS DAMAGE!
>>550621990You actually bring both.>>550622030>in your handscorrect, hardstuckie *pat pat*
>>550621790You often don't do that much damage compared to your teammates as Chorus because of how much time you spend holding the relic. But they're still retards who've never played Havoc 40 if they think book Zealot is bad. Book zealot + Purg Psyker has been just about the most busted duo in Havoc since the mode's release.
>>550621990Ideally both.VZPO still the best havoc teams in my experience for effectiveness, consistency and >fun.
Bro felt like a pro gamer saying "VZPO"
>sub-100 IQ can't figure out what anon meant by "VZPO"
>>550622286>You often don't do that much damage compared to your teammates as Chorus because of how much time you spend holding the relicThis way of thinking is a trap, btw. Consider the opposite: You are still capable of keeping up damage wise despite holding the relic during every dense horde or boss spam.>>550622308True but it's VPOZ because saying poz is funny
>>550622393Based newgod. Such terminology has been said on here multiple times before (and no not even by me).
>>550622507>This way of thinking is a trap, btwNo, it's a fact. The more time you spend holding relic, the less time you spend damaging things. I'm not saying you can't do a good amount of damage.
>>550622703Yes, but chorus is the single most impactful ability in the entire fucking game, it completely warps the fight around it (and can instagib bosses, map permitting). The fact that zealot still keeps up damage wise while also having the best ability (during which you can't deal damage) is insane, and all the retards overlook that.Then again, all the retards can't even dream of reaching havoc 40 anyway, so you should point and laugh at hardstuckies for being hardstuck and maybe consider joining their 20s as psyker and intentionally triggering daemonhosts to grief and gatekeep them
>>550622642SYBAU, edgy loser this is how I imagine you look like everytime you have an opinion lol.
Bro felt like a real gangsta saying "SYBAU"
how do zealotards even play this slopi have owned this 3 years and its the only one not at 30melee psyker was better at being zealot than zealot
>>550623040Zealots were great before the great sissification
>>550623153I'm still not used to the high socks *shiver*
>>550623040Zealots play havoc 40 where the class is genuinely very strong and vital to some team compositions. You wouldn't know because you don't even have the patience to bring the class to level 30, so I can't help but deduce that you would never even make it in havoc.>inb4 le who cares about le havoclol skill issue
I'm the best Darktide player, ask me anything.
>>550623035Real gangsters would've called him a nigger, fucking newfags using instagram slang
>>550623397how much do you weight?
>>550623153>>550623240Zealot cuties in my havoks...correction is needed!!!
>>550623357>im ESSENTIAL guys, the havok 40 guys let me play with them onceoh no no
>>5506237943 fridges, but I also carry the team
>>550623824>havokOf course the retard is ESL
>>550623815FUCKING DELETE THIS AND NEVER POST IT AGAIN
>>550623815BASED
>schizo crying about zealot is a gachanogShocker.
i mean you can say i'm crying but all i'm saying is it was even more boring to play than ogryn. ogryn at least had some dumb quirky bullshit weapons
>>550624458???
https://x.com/i/status/2001574854672478448Oh yeah? Well check THIS out
>>550622393It's the vtuber group
>>550625102You're fat.
>>550625102that creature is sick and mutated
>>550623815Die tranny
>trashbag shitter convincing himself that dual autopistols are bad because "every weapon can kill crushers so what" even though it kills literally everything else in the game better than any other weapon too You hate to read the actual 70 IQ shit on here
>>550625683I'd at least accept if someone said they feel like shit to use because the recoil is extremely difficult to manage, and the amount of screen shake it causes is motion sickness inducing, but I never see anyone mention that.I find them quite satisfying but I can't use them for longer than 3 games before the motion sickness kicks in from all the jitter and recoil drift.
>>550622308No, you just bring vet, psyker, ogryn. And then choose between arbys or hiv cum for the 4th slot depending on if you want aids grenades or dog.
>>550622861>Yes, but chorus is the single most impactful ability in the entire fucking game,I never disagreed with that. Re-read the reply chain. I wasn't hating on Chorus. I was just disagreeing about damage output. Maybe it's a major skill issue on my part, but I was regularly behind at least 1-2 teammates on damage with Chorus (Purg psyker being one, obviously), and it wasn't odd to finish a mission at sub-1mil while multiple other teammates were hitting 1 mil or higher. I'll readily admit I'm not the best Chorus player, but the frequency of Chorus presses and time spent holding it is a limitation that no other class faces. I don't think I was ever in a non-meme Havoc game where people were reaching 2mil+, but I quit before Rot Armor + Gardens bullshit, so maybe that's why. The only multi-million damage I remember was when Arbites dog bleed was broken as fuck.
>>550626131>game spawns 5 bosses>makes a youtube recording panicking hard, posts it on every social media platform, and complains about how overtuned havoc is>instead of just bringing a zealotThe sheer amount of cope you retards resort to is pretty impressive tbdesuyo
>>550626005I generally get tired of ranged focus hivescum builds after 1 game because it's just such one dimensional gameplay
>>550623040Melee Psyker has better damage output but is fairly squishy. Zealot trades some damage for a ton more robustness and a bit better mobility.
>>550625683They are bad.I can just stab one in the head with my dueling sword and 1 shot the damn thing and I don't spend time faffing around with a combat ability.Also the needler is just a direct upgrade in every way, you just shoot the crusher 2 times and the DoT takes care of the rest as you run to the other side of the map with your shivs (which can also 1 shot or 2 shot crusher reliably, t. Knower)
>>550626501>it's bad because other things are good toohow retarded does someone have to be to think like this?
I accept all concessions
>>550626182>Maybe it's a major skill issue on my part,No, chorus zealot will never have impressive damage output, but that's not the point. The point is keeping up. It's pretty normal for the damage distribution to be psyker >>> zealot = everyone else if you play a high damage zealot build.But another thing that's easy to overlook is how much zealot's presence amplifies everyone else's damage. Blinded by Blood is a thing, stunning everything opens them up for Skullcrusher, giving everyone +10% crit chance matters a lot for certain builds, etc. so the zealot's individual contribution can be difficult to quantify, which is why it just goes completely over the average retard's head.But really, just puff armored groups (and monsters) with the flamer until brittleness stacks up, then swap to relic blade and swing until shit dies.
>>550626321>>game spawns 5 bosses*throws 4 krak grenades, power swords them**bolter goes brrrrrrttt**throws few cans of AIDS onto the ground**rumbler spam shooting 5 grenades in a row*Wow that was fucking hard>>makes a youtube recording panicking hard, posts it on every social media platform, and complains about how overtuned havoc isJewtubers existing being retarded doesn't suddenly make zealot more useful.>>instead of just bringing a zealotAnyone who is sensible and knows how to play the game don't bring dead weight onto the team.
>>550626839>No, chorus zealot will never have impressive damage output, but that's not the point.And my only point was that the earlier statement >because even "support" zealots deal millions of damage was kind of misleading. That was all I was trying to say.
>>550626904>comes up with a fantasy scenario where half of the shit mentioned doesn't even contributeYeah okay, thanks for confirming I'm trying to argue with a fucking retard. I'll take solace in the knowledge that I will never see you in my havoc 40 games.>Declined
>>550626605>>it's bad because other things are good tooSure, lets go with that.Heavy swords are good weapons now.
>>550627427>brings up some random other shit???
>>550627173>NUH UH!>YOU ARE RETARDEDI accept your concession.Stay bad, stay mad.
I pigged. What's the best build to larp as a commissar?
>>550627625that looks so fucking retarded lol the jacket is so big and the proportions make the character look like he's 13 years old get a refund man, buy something actually good
>>550627625Shout + Focus Target or Shout + Weapon Specialist
>>550627625>Another gloveless skin for Veteran
Shattering Impact + Puncture or Cavalcade + Puncture. Which one on bolter?Playing arby if that helps.
>>550627978>Glove Meter:[0------------------]I'm so sad for you.
>>550627625KraksShoutFocus TargetFor weapons:Bolt pistol or las pistolPower sword or Power Falchion.
"hmm today i will buy a cool skin" <- gloveless
>>550628061>Almost 2026>Fatshit can't make a full armor with visor and gloves lol >>550627778 was right
>>550620057Probably never since they gave a regular heavy stubber to ogryn
>>550629169Penance Cosmetic has an singular glove.
Commissars in 40k seldom look good. Not trying to bait as I know they're a beloved figure in the 40k universe of fans, but most of the time they look pretty meh or goofy in my view. On one hand I do like how they typically look very ruggered, weathered, beaten etc, but their clothing is too flamboyant(?) or so. Anyway /blog in short I think Commissar-esque mtx are kinda doomed from the start. I do agree with the other posts how gloveless for so much armour and clothing looks awful.
>>550629241Yeah and Fatshit almost died making the missing one
>>550627625LOL THIS NIGGA HAS NO GLOVES LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH!But seriously, boy, ask for a refund this is one of the ugliest bundle ever
>>550629169man Fatshark character models are just fundamentally fucked, the guardsman you posted already looks infinitely better just because he actually is proportioned like an adult alone meanwhile what the ACTUAL fuck is pic related lmao
>>550629603
>>550630213To be fair Ultramarines are like 15 heads compared to regular guardsmen. Proportions in 40k is just stupid, and I think it is on purpose.
>>550629603>This is "high quality" premium skin and worth "2900 aquilas" according to Fatshark
>>550630448Who's talking about space marines though? This is for regular humans
>>550618423>he doesn’t know Lol………
>>550630501>Scrapped scion armor still sitting in the files rotting>Only a shitty green helmet made itGrim
>Even a random NPC in Space Marine 2 looks better than Darktide premium skins
>>550631595I think the darktide ones look so dogshit because they wanted to keep the same base body for all classes AND for female models, so they don't have to do multiple variants of armor They DO adjust the armor for females slightly but it's really just a small amount of morphing. If the men actually looked like adult men, they'd have to do way more
>>550631595>men just want one thing>and it's to look like a generic grunt on the battlefield>oorah
>>550631595Even COD got a better one
>>550631808>and it's to look like a generic grunt on the battlefieldyou're godam fucking right
>>550631808Damn right. Game looked peak pre-release when it was lights-out and 4 guardsmen.
>>550630501>>550629603>>550630213>>550631859
>>550630213This would be more accurate if you made the chart with a bare head instead.Also many people don't seem to realize but helmets tend to be large because they have fuck loads of padding inside them. Why? Specifically so you don't get a concussion if someone smacks you in the gnogging.It's the reason why motor cycle helmets are so large as well.
this is why all my characters are female because of the twink body and noodle arms
>>550620585Probably more. This place has a lot of relative activity.>>550621391>>550623815>>550623824I look like this and do this.>>550623794>weight
Dual smg build is probably the easiest this game has ever been>literally infinite ammo>full ranged immunity during desperado so never need to worry about sniper spam>kills everything except bosses or crushers in a single magazineIf your team doesn't have a dedicated CRUSHER killer then you just kite them while mopping up everything else, then drop a chem nade and watch them melt to a puddle anyway. I really don't see how anyone could say they're bad, I'd go so far as to say Hive CUM is braindead OP right now and should be nerfed.
>>550632263is this in The 40 Havock's??
>>550631529I have a feeling it's because of GW in some way.Not sure why or what it could be specifically, but if the armor has sit in the game files unfinished for like 2+ years it indicates that there are definetly other problems behind the scenes.Since no matter how incompetent Fatshark can be, it doesn't take 2+ years to make/finish a 3D model.
>>550586078JUST LET ME USE RELIC SWORD ON ARBITES
>>550632398GW is definitely holding the reigns while riding shotgun. Fartshart is just the stagecrew.
>>550629491Depends on the outfit. They’ve gotten a fair bit of uniforms over the years both in table top and official art.>>550630448Nah 40k is usually fine it’s just this game doing… weird stuff.
>>550632442ah yes the relic sword cop...
>>550632383Aurics, I don't touch meme modes
>>550632442>cops with swordsAnon....
>>550632556With all the surgeries the more advanced troopers endure I would not be surprised to learn at all that height IS affected simply because more hardware = bigger case.
>>550596012Squats confirmed!
>>550631790>I think the darktide ones look so dogshit because they wanted to keep the same base body for all classes AND for female models, so they don't have to do multiple variants of armorThat is 100% one of the main reasons.It's just typical game dev studio bullshit where they half ass a thing out of laziness because they don't want to spend few extra hours of work to refine/polish their game a bit.
>>550632963*straight edge punk starts playing*
>>550632263Eh, I think Arbites is still the easy mode class that'll carry shitters through Aurics. SMG Cummer still requires a bare minimum of awareness and mechanical understanding. But yeah, it's stupid easy to mow down the map.
>>550632869kek
>>550632398You're probably right yea, GW would 100% push for Scions to be a separate class DLC. The armor piece hasn't seemed to change one bit just checked it out here. I think I did see Berets for vet however. I'll double check.
>>550632659*breathes in*HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ABOUT GAME BALANCE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T HAVOCKED 40K TIMES
>>550633319Well the game is clearly not balanced around Havoc 40, which is why only a very select few weapons and class builds are viable there.
>>550633405He's probably just upset 'cause someone called him a hardstuck
>>550633405A lot of stuff is viable, but some things are mandatory
>>550632963>153938 characters createdIf we are generous and assume all of these unique people and it's 1 = 1 dlc bought.It'd mean Fatshark made roughly about 1,845,716 €$ from this DLC alone.And this is based on that everyone just bought the regular $12 version and not the deluxe one.I guess you can chalk this up to being a decent out come for Fatshark? Maybe the next DLC class will come sooner than expected?
>>550633525A shame we can't also see how many people purchased the game at 10 dollarydoos. I wouldn't be surprised to learn around 30% of "new characters" were also "new players." (like me, I didn't buy hiv cum)
>>550632963do water niggas really?
>>550634018Stay mad.
>>550633134>GW would 100% push for Scions to be a separate class DLC.Wouldn't suprise, but at the same time hardly makes sense.Since Scions would quite literally just be Veteran 2.0, since that is basically more or less what Tempestus Scions are. TS are just elite guardsmen, their layman term is "Stormtroopers" which is already a unit that exists in most Imperial Guard regiments as a special operatives/elite squads.Cadians have their Kasrkin, Krieg have their Grenadiers, etc.Like people point out the obvious "connections" and similarities between Zealot vs SoB, but Veteran vs Tempestus Scion would 100x worse.
>>550634083Post more of these because these edits are good. Why doesn't Darktide have good memes? What the fuck man.
>>550634334I'd love to make more but I have no imagination atm :(
The next class? Rogue trader
>>550634429And I am just not skilled enough to edit. The world is a cruel bitch.
Next class? Dark Crusade
>>550632263Oh hey, that's me.I hope I wasn't a burden when playing arby.
>>550632263I enjoy the Vraks Infantry for it. Same great dps, but can kill Crushers with the rending desperado provides.
>>550632638>>550632670Fuck you give me swords!
>>550580657>>550580519jej
>>550585230>>550584875Source for this? Never heard of it before.
>>550633525Sort of? Fatshark says the have around 180 employees so it's a few months of salaries at best. Anyone else feel like 180 people seems like too many for their work output?
>>550634659Oh cool! Hello anon, and no you werent a burden. Again Hive Scum is so overtuned you basically have the damage output of at least 2 other people, if not more.
>>550634941That's a saber!
>>550586714That helmet and chest piece look pretty decent actually….>>550589969We should be able to have a gun like this
>>550634275They won't do scions. Hive scum was unironically a step in the right direction. Was much better then arbites. I'm guessing fatshark will do a squat next (an actual squat no a league of votaan tranny) ((yes they still exist)).Or a mechanicam lackey.
>>550635208>Fatshark have 180 employees doing nothing but check visual bugs in cosmetics and fuck themselves in a circle
>>550635523What if....What if they unironically DO do Sisters of Battle and zealot gets completely obsoleted by 10 bucks and boob plates?
>>550635234That's very true, chem grenades are stupid strong, the devs will probably nerf them at some point.And ye, it's fun to see my characters in other people's screenshots/videos. I've seen my ogryn in couple of videos here and youtube. The missions go very smoothly too.Also learned that I need to aim for the heads more. I'm bad at estimating if I'm hitting the heads or not.
>>550634659>top score in a few areas>uhh hope I wasn't a burdenYou sound like a colossal dickhead though.
>>550632638>>550632670I mean if there’s any setting that could accommodate it…
>>550635541I mean, I would almost believe it at this point.
>>550635778https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/filename/dv8t1lg2x9tx.png/>gacha>ffidblt
>>550584715It’s fun yeah. Just another update recently and the devs actually listen and patch up their shit. Gets chaotic if you’re playing with randoms and don’t have a mic but still fun. Can play solo too but it’s clearly meant to be played with others.
>>550635672>>What if they unironically DO do Sisters of Battle and zealot gets completely obsoleted by 10 bucks and boob plates?>zealot gets a 3rd class rework>it's $12 DLC>buying it auto deletes all your previous zealots and then forces you to make a SoB character
SoB is a ranged army
>>550632104Yeah, bare head would be far more accurate.
>>550635523>>550632869It’s going to be votann dude get over this weird hateboner already Jesus >>550634334It does though
>>550635208>Anyone else feel like 180 people seems like too many for their work output?Fatshart is a Swedish studio after all. They can't just fire everyone after they are done making the game. There should be massive 2.0 updates like every few months with that many hands on deck but Swedes cannot follow through on anything after they've made their bread.
>>550581298I waited 2 weeks for this?
>>550635778>>550635946I'm just paranoid and bad at estimating my own skill level.>You sound like a colossal dickhead though.I got that image off google from a reddit post. But I'll try not to be a dick.
>>550634275Kasrkin would actually be kinda understandable, they could actually give them stuff like those big plasma guns and meltas and even jump packs, they’re like the most impressive infantry that aren’t space marines/assassins the Imperium can field, but it would still be weird and redundant yeah,
>>550635208>>550636236From what I understand the 180 employee number isn't just the actual game devs, it includes ALL people who work at Fatshark.Yes, even Jennie in accounting or Svenjamin whose only job is to fetch coffee from the local starbucks.
>>550603862taking blazing piety, but not scourge...how special are you?
>>550636743NTA but havoc builds that don't use a crit weapon do that
>>550632104>>550636123tried to be as fair as possible with the head size, it's also one of the smaller head models and it's still only a little above 7. I think thats how you usually depict early teens.
>>550636669Yes, that's what the total count would include. However, the majority should be devs
>>550636227Votann is cringe and gay and has way more gear and training than the average guardsmen.You are a gigantic faggot for liking cringe space dwarfs over based ones.
>>550635208>180 people>took them up until sienna necro to come up with an ability that wasn't hit harder/go invis/go invulnerable/dash>CW is basically just "get even more stupid than with the original skill tree">set at the edge of the world where reality is breaking in real time>same enemies>half of the new maps are old maps
>>550636575If it was me I'd just give vet all the stormtrooper gear to use and then couple of carapace armor gear on top. There, done.Only other thing that'd maybe make sense if Fatshark does some sort of "prestige" system or whatever. Maybe that'll be what the Mortis Operatives will be? Since we haven't really seen or heard anything about them, but it's what the Mortis Trials are training our characters for, it's what Sefoni says.Sefoni also mentions that her Master, ie. Grendyl likes to watch the Mortis Trials since he sometimes takes interest in the people who are going through it.
Anyone wants to play some havoc 20?Code: 8516422588EU
>>550636851I highly doubt that this is a havoc build. Who out there takes blood redemption over literally anything else? Ttaking blood redemption in havoc where you trigger stalwart on cooldown and you already have second wind is like a drop of piss in the ocean. Waste of a talent point.
>>550636956Considering how malnourished the Imperium is (mmm, corpse starch) I would not be surprised by deviations in proportions, but yeah those heads need to be a bit smaller. It might help with the hueg helmet syndrome. Now I want to run experiments with the different heights.
>>550637753i never got the malnourished thing because meanwhile ogryns are absolutely fucking massive. I don't see why a human would be starving but an ogryn has all the food he wants, especially cause they like abhumans a bit lessI know it's not the same "species" or whatever, but muscle mass requires sustenance period
>>550637129> cringe and gaySubjective> has way more gear and training than the average guardsmenAs do ArbitesRest is your irrational hate boner. Simple as
>>550636956>>550630213It really doesn't take much to fix their proportions I don't think pic related is bodybuilder tier, just an actual adult wearing bulky armor
>>550638101Ogryns live and are found on gravity heavy worlds with their own ecosystems that can sustain them. They can also eat virtually anything, unlike regular people. Pretty simple.
>>550603862Anon, don't take backstab damage.Take disdain instead, they finally fixed it and it works like it should.
>>550638572>ogryns can eat cardboard and old clothing"Rations"
>>550638101>i never got the malnourished thing because meanwhile ogryns are absolutely fucking massive.Ogryns are abhumans so they are kinda weird, but they since they evolved on planets with high gravity and cold environments they tend to be very survival oriented. Meaning they are willing to basically eat anything. If you listen to some of the dialogue when in the Torrent even the Bodyguard sometimes remarks with "Thick slime in those nets... Good eating, no?" And Brawler sometimes makes remarks where he is thinking about chomping a bite out of a trapper he killed.Ogryns have pretty gross eating habits/they are not at all picky and probably can survive off of stuff that normal humans can't.Like I wouldn't be surprised if ogryns could derive nutrition out of wood like cellulose.
>>550639109>chomping a bite out of a trapper he killed....lewd...
>>550618143>boss appears>boss dies 0.1 seconds later
>>550640996I was super confused 'cause a TH Zealot killed a Chaos spawn on that "defend the train" finale mission earlier, and I never even saw him run up to it. I thought someone one-shot it from ranged.
>>550639529Do not need heretics
>increasing Shroudfield duration also puts retarded threat drop on you for 5 secondsMan, I just want a not-so-narrow window. Threat drops are so fucking aids though
>>550640996I do love my bonk zealot build even if it isn't great
Is it okay to not go for Keystone passives on Veteran?
>>550643639yes it's okay, it will give me a mild chuckle as I inspect your character
>>550639109>>550638572I didnt think about how they eat wacky shit but that checks out totally
Veteran would be better with less tax nodes
>>550632263NGL Anon, I can't make the SMGs work. They just feel fucking off to me, and I hate them. I unironically prefer the Stubs, or running Rampage. Rampage is genuinely a ton of fun, and you can make up for the range deficiency with the Needle Pistol.
>>550633525That number is considerably lower than Arbites, I think.
>>550644172classes are balanced around tax nodes and if they feel it's too weak they'll just remove somewhat you're saying is "veteran would be better if he could have more talents" which is true but not really a deep insight
>The shop releases many white and red recolor helmets since months ago>We have few red cosmetics>Barely we have white cosmeticsWhy Fatshark are like this?
>>550643639It's more than ok and for certain builds it's advised.
>>550645008I also think it is bad. That barely we have white cosmetics. I need have more white cosmetics to go with my shoes. Poorfag ruin this for us Brother.
>>550645008And almost zero purple cosmetics. It's not even my favorite color, but it's interesting how rare purple tends to be.
>>550645008>>550645689>white and purpleYou guys are black, aren't you?
>>550645859...wat
>>550645859Not sure why you would make that assumption, I'm quite white and autistic, I have a large 40k collection. Purple is something I find interesting because of it's association with nobility and infrequent appearances. Pretty sure the pigments are more expensive. White paints suck to deal with, but a lot of it has to do with their pigments being larger particles so they separate easily. Although this is a video game so just changing the color value is all it takes for a color change for the most part, so it's always interesting for me to see which colors get used more than others
>>550645859???Ok schizo, how many pure red or white skin cosmetics sets have Veteran and Ogryn?
>>550646637I dont know of any pure red or white skin cosmetics sets that have a Veteran or even an Ogryn
Is Daimon Blades worth 18 bucks on sale or is it just certified not fun?
>>550648830Personally, I have no idea. However, check the player count as co-op games need people to play with.
>>550649546I am aware that like 500 people bought it but it is in early access and can be played solo.
>>550645629>>550647598One of the few white cosmetics sets in Darktide are Truskan Snowhounds, but probably Fatshark forgot about it like blue Krieg
>>550649938Do these cosmetics skins sets own any Ogryns?
>>550649938It'd be perfect is Zealot's and Ogryn's helmets had visors like Psyker's and Vet's
This game has to have possibly the worst cosmetic shop I've ever seen in a game personally. I've been playing for a month and this entire time there has not been a single armor set that I thought huh I would pay money for that. There's a $5 pack right now that would let me get any skin that has shown up in the game in the past month I've been playing and there has been nothing worth the five bucks. I'm not even opposed to buying anything off of principle there's just fucking nothing good to buy.
>>550650904That's been the general opinion for a while now. It's FOMO with a lot of it just sucking. The more prominent IG armies have had better success, but overall it's just not interesting
>>550650904It was pretty obvious at launch that someone had delusions of insane profits, and that's why the systems are still so bad even after being heavily "fixed"at launch there were>weekly slop shop cycles>a timer on the shop with no indication of when the items would be back (this ended up being illegal in the EU, forcing them to change it despite the timer still effectively quietly ticking down and still no indication of when items will be back, they just had to be less obvious about it)>plans for quarterly paid classesand then launch happened and they realized none of those dreams of raking in money would come true, and spent three years trying to unfuck this situation
>>550650904swedes are extremely homosexual, the arc raiders cosmetic store is pretty much the same, idk about helldivers, theyre probably fine in that regard
>>550651841Well they were given the cash shop code to copy-paste into the game so of course it works
Is this how you guys play with the big sword and the big eviscerator these days can I get martyr pro tips
>>5506524691 word"Yikes"
>>550650904It's pretty retarded. Look at Helldivers there's a big permanent catalog and everything else cycles in the superstore every few days over the course of two weeks. It takes two weeks for one new page to be added in Darktide by which point I'm bored and probably won't want anything.
>play first game of hive scoom after a week of detox>time to despacito all over>make and equip a vraks autogun>quickplay auric>event mission>best player by a large margin, next closest is toxin spam scum with shitty medbox IEDman fuck them smg's
>>550648830The fact that it’s on sale so soon probably doesn’t bode well.
>>550654462almost all games go on sale this time of the year, only the fatcat AAAA games don't
>>550651841it will never not be funny to me that you could directly translate Darktide's store into Nightreign and it would be an infinite money glitchDarktide is such a bad game, it makes me mad how addictive the gameplay is. Everything else feels so boring even if it has better content, live balance, etc.
>>550655535I agree
>>550650904True>bought the 4k acquilas because who knows when that will disappear>nothing I actually want to buy rn
>>550656660I feel called out
>>550639109>>550644043>Ogryns have pretty gross eating habitsThis is because they are based on Warhams fantasy ogres. Remember, 40K started as a WH fantasy wizard sitting up in his tower peering into a crystal ball to show him the far flung future. There are quite a number of analogues.
>>550658097how the fuck does imperium sustain them?one ogryn could probably chew through entire talarn horse rider regiment's horse stock in a few days
>>550655535Solid gameplay loop that's mired in mediocre and slow support. Mods aren't even a silver bullet because: 1 the game updates frequently, 2 your privy to the whims of an autist and drops interest in supporting the mod, and 3 the game shouldn't have to be modded to make it more bearable when it's still being actively supported and developed. Too many developers use mods as a crutch for their own shitty development habits. Like the weapon customization mod's still broken last I heard, and that was a supposed feature they were going to add.
>>550658412No one knows. 40k as fun as it is is stupid and most of it makes no sense when you examine it. Just enjoy the ride
>>550658412Who knows, who cares? Warhammer has always operated heavily on "rule of cool", if you start to try apply logic and get into detailed minutiae like this it takes away from the satirical and parody elements while dragging everything down.
>>550658412dey eat ze bugs, theyre rich in protein
(YOU) are the Veteran with his gun out and space to shoot. Which target do you prioritize? >A: the poxwalkers that the ogryn on your team is meleeing>B: the shooters that are not in melee range of said ogryn, targetting him99% of pub veterans fail this quiz!
>>550659303the sniper/bomber/flamer in the distance
>>550658412Hundreds of men jerk off into their mouths every day
>>550659303But see, if you kill the poxies it frees ogryn up to engage the shooters quicker!
>>550659460I'm starting to see the reasoning. Shoot the poxwalkers for the ogryn so the ogryn can engage the shooters. Then you also kill the shooters for the ogryn so the ogryn can engage the next threat that has popped up in the meantime. Perfect teamwork
>>550659303myself of course
>>550659650Now you're getting it
>>550659303C: The trapper, then the dog, then the mutant, then the sniper, then the bomber, then the flamer, then the (shot)gunner(s) or reaper(s), usually linearly in that order, though currently shooting gunners warrant a shot or two to suppress, and reapers depend on the TTK of my weapon (they get top priority with laspistol)B is the fallback.
>>550659303You shoot everything before the ogryn can hit it so it dies from a lack of toughness generation
>>550658412I don’t understand what you’re asking. Ogryns can eat nearly anything. Sustaining a fighting force that can eat anything in a setting that literally spans an entire galaxy is… not difficult at all.
>>550648830>>550649680>>550655143Dont bother, this game is dogshitEye was kinda funny, but it was 14 years ago, playing this UE5 dogshit slop right now is rearded
>>550659303Why is this dude so much fatter than everyone else, and what's with his crippled little arm
>>550659303I'm already waiting in the elevator.
>>550663319it's a nurgling, hidden easteregg
>>550659303Does the mission have cranial corruption? Shoot one of the poxwalkers in the head to knock the Ogryn back into team coherency. If the Ogryn is sent flying off a ledge, into a mutant or a poxburster, it's his fault because he wasn't in coherency.
>>550612553Is it still alive? I played it when it first came years ago on the xbone. What's it like now?
>>550659303are you malice player
Will you buy Darktide 2 on launch?
>>550666485>buying any fatshark game on launchlol maybe 3-5 years down the line
>>550666485You have to be a true mark-ass jabroni to buy Fatshark games on launch
>>550666663Darktide was unironically more fun on launch than right now though. Can't say i didn't laugh my ass off about the broken ass bugs in VT2 too
How the fuck is a yellow recolored pickaxe worth like 4 bucks wtf is this shit
>>550667285
>>550667285>An old ranger trick ehehehehe>Fucking dies because the smoke bomb deals 1 damage>Slayer bardin randomly dying to fucking stairs>Hunstman kruber deleting bosses in one shot because every pallet in the blunderbuss can crit>Saltspyre deleting entire hordes and getting his entire ammo reserve back on a single crossbow shot because infinite penetration and crits count for every enemy hitIt was fun
i'm done with the dogshit.. till next event in 2 months
>>550668220Congratulations you can now afford one (uno) charm for your weapons.Don't forget to say thank you based fatshark
>>550668314i saved up 500 from the last event so i can actually afford an ENTIRE weapon skinmaybe i will save up and next year i could even buy a pair of pants
stove face stab you
Vermintide 2 broshow do you organize your inventory, how do you determine what to keep and what to remove? I've been playing for a couple weeks now
the shotpistol should be buffed until it's a better sidearm for arbites than the boltpistol isdogsplosion should be buffeddog should be able to maintain full stacks of bleed on a monstrosity instead of them running out constantly because he pounces too fucking slowI am right
>>550671218wrong right wrong
>>550671218The hassan special should target the logation you're aiming at that would fix all the problems I have with it imo
>>550671218Shotpistol is already a better sidearm if your melee doesn't have a shield. Having a shield lets you do crazy things, like blocking overheads and face tanking havoc bosses unharmed, among many other things. The only buff it needs is being able to reload while blocking.Dogsplosion is already very strong and if you think otherwise you are using it wrong. The previous "nerf" was a buff in its overall DPS over a mission. Losing 1 charge only made it worse against monsters, which is fair because it was ridiculous at stunlocking them.Dog doesn't need to maintain bleed stacks when you can bring a bleed weapon or a teammate can maintain the stacks.You are a malicelet.
Haha! That’s so true!
I don't want to use the dodge key unless I'm side stepping. I'm lazy and retarded.
>>550671403you think the shotpistol isn't trash and is any way better than the bolt pistol, and that you need a shield to take 0 damage from a monstrosity/captain with 0 effort, I don't think you should be calling other people malicelets
>>550674564>he's never been cornered by a sword captain>he's never had to tank a daemonhost for over half a minute>on havoc 40 penaltiesI mean it's definitely possible with some sweaty dodging, but I wouldn't exactly call it effortless. A shield just lets you stand there and do the occasional perfect block and maybe a dodge during an attack string, but even those are optional.Almost nobody unironically uses the bolt pistol in havoc 40, yet I've seen my fair share of shotpistols. In fact I've seen more combat shotguns than bolt pistols. I bet your malicelet ass is going to call that retarded, too, because you are just so impossibly clueless that you can't even participate in the conversation.
>>550675237>Almost nobody unironically uses the bolt pistol in havoc 40On arbitrator* I should clarify.It's quite good on veteran, and reasonably popular there. Also strong on psyker for unintended reasons.
> the year is 2027 of the third millennia...> anon still hasn't puchsed arbite,hivescum,and all the other dlc characters yet> he buys them all at once on sale and has a brand new game to play through leveling them all and doing penances> he is a cool guy that has outsmarted all the "rich" anons> he is currently getting his dick sucked as he writes this
>>550668583buy the 5$ (4000 aquila) deal right now you fricken cheapskate
>>550677158>CRYPTicnecron class confirmed
>>550677158Wtf is a "psyker"?
>>550677573Is this some reference I don't get?
>>550677158SKITTLES SOON LET'S GOOOOO
>>550677158i still dont get what broker has to do with scummer
Vraks exec is so satisfying, feed me more elites and specials.
>>550677573Someone who Sykes
>>550677868a broker is a dealerhis mechanic is unique drugsPeople called it was a hive ganger the literal moment broker was leaked btw. Cryptic seems like an extremely obvious nod to admech binaric too. I don't even want admech btw so dont accuse me of coping, just calling it as I see it
>>550677868drug dealer
>>550678069>I don't even want admech btwShit taste teebeehaich
>>550678998I have low confidence in them actually doing the concept justice, it's not a matter of taste in this case
ny1 wnt 2 pley havoc geimu???
>>550679127Who cares, it's still the most interesting option. What would you rather have?
when space marineid take scouts
>>550679202i gotta go to sleep but id join if you host over the weekend
>>550677868my schizoid theory is they meant to say "fixer" but some swedoid got the english words mixed up and got something in his brain that he roughly associated with "criminal contractor of some variety," ergo broker
>>550679218Dunno, I just know I'll be disappointed when they do admech and the combat abilities are >selfbuff>aoe buff>charge
>>550679732Sure, be a pessimist then
>>550679856You sound like a retard just wanting to argue.
>>550677158>crypticit would be hilarious if this isn't actually a hint about the class at all because it's literalI would guess death cult assassin because it has the perfect blend of>no one wants this>it will be uglythat fatshark seems to love, but doing another nimble damage dealer that loves knives right after doing hive scum seems unlikely
>>550679856>pessimisticrealistic anon. hive scum is even worse with just>selfbuff>selfbuff>aoe buff
>>550679934Almost the opposite, I'm giving up the discussion because you seem like a lost case.>thinking they'll give admech a chargeAnyway, if you want to be a doomer I won't stop you
>>550679732You can dumb every single class ability and talent node down to selfbuff, aoebuff and crowd control. I think you don't know what you want or have become disillusioned with the game in general.
>>550679951The zealot already covers dealth cult assassin mechanically and with its weapon set. All it's really lacking is a voice pack to go with it.
>>550680893>CONSIDER THE OVERLAPI shan't
>>550681070I'm sure acting smug on a mongolian basket weaving forum will lead to Fatshark taking action.
>>550677158Cringe>>550671631Need Drukhari sexxo>>550679202Maybe later cutie I have w*rk in the morning :(
>>550680560they could add things like the cool unique ones from VT2 you know. There's no need to defend mediocricity
>>550681472Even those can be dumbed down to selfbuff, aoebuff and crowd control. The unique class are just abilities, auras and keystones with less fancy presentation.
>>550679718It’s sad that this is likely the reason for a lot of weird lexicon choices in this game. Ogryns sounding too sophisticated? Swedes can’t into broken brit slang. Weird spelling or misuse of High Gothic terms? Swedes can’t into Latin. Very unfortunate.
>>550681472>cool unique ones from VT2What are they? Genuinely asking.
>Right side of Hive Scum tree is focused on toxin and stims>Ability does fucking nothing without a stimm to the point that it should really read "your mediocre stim gimmick will now add pithy amounts of value to teammates" >This is at the cost of making your guns usable or your melee combat usable>Talent to sync Supply cooldown with your Stim which should just be basekit with how unusable Supply is without a Stim ready>Because your ability cooldown doesn't matter, only your stim cooldown does, the right-side keystone's CDR is totally worthless on its "intended" build>Additionally, there's a Chem Toxin specific weapon that gets crept out of its own niche by dualie shivs with crits-stack-toxin talentThe right side of Hive Scum's tree is genuinely horribly designed but I at least give Fatshit some credit for trying and failing to do something interesting, in comparison to the total phone-in that was the Arbites DLC
>>550681870The weird spelling is deliberate. Even GW does this because a lot of contemporary english words were butchered over thousands of years, just as contemporary english words are butchered middle english. Example, catheric = catholic.
>>550681870>Weird spelling or misuse of High Gothic termsJust how new to 40K are you?
>>550682043Bait.
>>550682043>with how unusable Supply is without a Stim readyExplain this? Does using the crate while the stim is on CD nerf it?
>>550682550If you don't have a stim up all it does is heal corruption and make people immune to it in a tiny area. So it's good if your team is getting raped in a corner by a Beast of Nurgle but is otherwise almost useless
>>550682941Good to know I've been using it the right way at least, I've seen a few people pop their stim and then drop the crate. I thought it was odd that dropping the crate would also put the stim on CD, but I suppose it makes sense to prevent people from doubling their own stim effects that way.
>>550681603Yeah? Can you place BH ult, necro ult, outcast engi ult, GK ult, WP ult and SotT ult in these categories?>>550681883The aforementioned. To make it short: >BH has a pistol he can whip out and do a super shot with, can select ammo types in skill tree>Necromancer can summon skeletons>Outcast Engi takes out a minigun, the cool part about this one is that it's like a third weapon, it's not cooldown based, and uses ult gauge for ammo instead>GK ult makes him do ultra fuckoff slashes with a holy sword, exact action depends on talents>WP ult lets him bubble himself or an ally to make them immune to damage for a moment, can do stuff like rewind damage and revive allies with it >SotT ult summons a wall of thorns Darktide is distinctly lacking these sorts of cool active abilities.
>>550683181Oh, and I totally forgot about trueflight volley and pyromancer ult. Trueflight volley shoots arrows that track shit down (or one big arrow that doesnt do it much) and the pyroball flies around braining a bunch of shit
how do i build for shivscrit rate on dodge seems like a given since there's both the talent and blessing for itdo i put on the bleed on crit talent for my second one? the crit toxin talent and the weakspot ones are good too? hyper-critical doesn't seem practical to me
>>550683181it's actually incredibly sad compared to these that hive scum just gets 2 invisible stat buff actives + a reskinned medkit lol
>>550683480Tranner says the correct way to build it is nerfed pissbaby untranny strike and precognition
>>550683181>BH has a pistol he can whip out>GK ult makes him do ultra fuckoff slashesSo just extra damage>WP ult lets him bubble himself or an allyTeam/self buff>SotT ult summons a wall of thornsCC>Necromancer can summon skeletons>Outcast Engi takes out a minigunThese are the only real interesting/unique ones, but also can be boiled down to just extra damage/CC.
>>550683705lmao, how fucking desperate. No anon, these actually wholly unqiue mechanics can't just be dumbed down as "extra damage". You are grasping at straws.
>>550683705You're being really desperate and retarded and i think you should admit defeat
What is the story in Darktide so far? I remember far in the past people were speculating that they were going to add Tyranids and Eldar but it sounded completely insane to me.
>>550684154It kinda fizzled after the stim ritual and now we're doing bog standard war stuff for Dukane.
>>550680893Death Cult assassin with Kibble's VA for the female voice, please would be dope. Too bad it won't happen
>>550683620>nerfed untranny gives it 40% rending>to go with its innate 60% pen on heavy attacksnice nerf lmao
>>550685215Who?
>>550677158>adamantSquat>CrypticAdmech
>>550685609adamant is arbites
>>550684154There are actually a few references to GSC so that may still happen ig, not sure how they'd work them in with a chaos cult as it seems the two would be at odds with each other, both vying for control of the planet.
>>550683480This is how I run them. Put Uncanny and Riposte/Precog with Carapace and Flak/Unyielding. Precog is probably better. Feel free to take Battering Strikes out and put it somewhere else. I played with a more chem-focused setup with Coated Weaponry, Toxic Mania, and Toxic Renewal for a bit. Also a good setup, and the Coated Weaponry (from what I recall) ended up putting out surprising damage, but I don't think it's as strong as just having more immediate damage.
>>550685609>adamant>squatBased newcutie.
>>550685403Kibellah, from Rogue Trader I'm guessing
>>550685403From Rogue Trader. She's a Death Cult assassin you can romance
>>550683480Do you want a dot and/or a kill-stealing instant death effect to cuck you out of hyper violence?Do you think 20% more crit chance is valuable on a build with around 60 to 70% crit chance?
>>550683620Uncanny is pointless on it, get the bleed-on-crit to kill most elites and bosses even faster
>>550685974>>550685983Ah, I'm still waiting until all the content is done before starting to play this game. I made that mistake with wrath of the righteous.
>>550686042my shivs scummer has a 97.5% crit chanceI don't understand the "you have enough crit chance" argumentI want all of my hits to critt. regularly does a million damage in aurics and 2 million in havocs
>>550686070>Uncanny is pointless on it>Blessing that greatly accelerates the only unit type you aren't instantly or nearly-instantly killing is pointlessExplain. Or are you just assuming 100% Rampage up time?
>>550686070>40% more damage against CRUSHERS is pointless>get the HV limiter instead
>>550686270Reasonable. I still need to get around to playing WotR, but I'm in the middle of Tainted Grail still.
>>550679951Zealot is already just the death cult assassin class. Even in the lore DCAs are genuinely just shroud ziggers with knives that snort cocaine and go around shanking people in the name of the Emperor because they are basically religious schizos.Aka exactly what the zealots in Darktide are.It's what the throwing knives, shroudfield and Momentum keystone is for.Also nevermind the fact that we very recently got a Death Cult Assassin skin for zealot.
>>550686419>>550686452Knife heavy headshot crit has like 0.95 adm on carapace. Non-crit heavy (very rare with the 20% crit blessing) like 0.92. You're gaining 5-8% rending from uncanny on a 95% rending attack. Think about this before you try to come at me with kill times and math.
>>550686332>97.5%I get to 87.5% if I swap to Riposte.>10% base>5% talent added to base>Crit rises to 27.5% while swinging>20% from Float>20% from keystone>20% from RiposteWhere'd you get the other 10%? Do you get 15% from your Stimm and not take the passive 5% node?
>>550679856He is a realist.Look at arbites and hive scum, both of them are just made of reused shit.
>>550686778>>550686419Oh and also, the heavy attack rending on rampage is an utter waste on shivs. As I said, 0.92-0.95 adm on carapace built in. Rending can't take it above 1. The only thing uncanny would significantly help with is if you had a mental disability and could only use light attacks and you tried to light attack crushers to death. Or, if you're somehow missing headshots with the shiv overhead. Which I'd honestly consider a form of brain damage too
>>550686778Go up to a Crusher without Uncanny and heavy attack its face. Then do it with 5 stacks of Uncanny. My hits go from 710 to 1168. I'll pass on the bleed, thanks.
>>550677158Cryptic is either going to be admech or an eldar.Those are the only good ideas I have.Unless Fatshark yet again goes full retard and makes some dumb shit like another psyker class like Astropath.God, now that I say it, that's exactly what it'll be. Isn't it?
>>550686965No. It will be a skitarii
>>550682107>>550682214Post an example because I don’t recall any in the same vein as this
>>550686915Weird. My crits do 970 on headshot, plus bleedstacks. I have roughly 90% crit in my build so comparing crits is honest. My crits with full uncanny do 1100. I lowballed the adm to be fair (base damage isn't the same as unarmored damage but often close enough, on this wep it's a bit further) but that's still not worth it to me. I got the same dps on crushers due to the bleed and I got way way more damage on bosses and noticable bleed kills on everything else. I'm sticking to the bleed
>>550686070>Uncanny is pointless on itUncanny causes chem grenades to rape everything even harder.
>>550687378Ah, I do get a lesser boost from crits. Going from 1105 to 1437 (all tested with H1). I sit at ~70% crit too instead of 90%
>>550687370Zola Orgustine. In contemporary spelling it would be Augustine.
I still have not cleared a rolling steel since this update.That map is impossible to carry retards on.
>>550680893>>550685215>>550686698DCAs would be pointless because the most unique thing about them is they sometimes have mechanical jaws so they can eat people but that’s not option here obviously >>550684154Genestealers are still on the list somewhere down the line but tyranids themselves are a no. Eldar are still being hinted at, same deal as above.
>>550687202There is fuck all cryptic about skittles.
>>550687418not really man, chem toxin already has really good rending on carapace baseline unlike all other dots.I just tried it and it gives them like 15% more damage on crushers and doesn't really benefit anything else.
>>550686790the aura and the refinement on the knife
>>550685609retard
>>550687494Yeah, it isn't a difficult mission but yet as it's timed (and rather tight) it's a struggle to carry on and if you have bots it's most likely not happening either. Also I find that the overwhelming vast majority of people don't know how to properly use the first room's door lock.
>>550687531Genestealer cults sometimes start making knockoff tyranid bioforms when they trigger an uprising, so hormagaunts and the like wouldn't be off the table if they start doing nid missions, but I think they'd keep that for Darktide 2.
>>550687531Not all DCAs are cannibals that eat people.DCA is just a catch-all-term for any sort weirdo religious freaks that have formed some weird fringe cults that then express their "worship" of the Emperor in often extremely weird and/or even in heretical ways.Even the most recent DCA model GW made is just a dude in a body glove with a hood dual wielding knives.
>>550687535They speak in a cryptic language
>>550687569>15% extra damage on crushers is badEterna shitter.
>>550687705Woow, I'm so convinced.
>>550687773Opportunity cost my friend. Using a weapon blessing to make your limited resource grenade to 15% more damage to a crusher so it can kill it in 13 seconds instead of 15 seconds may not be the most clever use of it. meanwhile the bleed enables you to do extra full bleed stack dps on a boss without expending any resource and it greatly increases your horde clear and mixed horde clear because elites always get the 8 stacks on a crit even if they were the 5th enemy cleaved and barely take damage. Also, I use the boombringer anyway, chem nades aren't a good panic button and if you're not panicking or need a save why do you need to expend a grenade resource?
>>550687976I'm right
>>550687657wtf does the lock have to do with anything? Enemies come from one side only how does locking the door even help? I've seen this sentiment expressed more than once. So you lock the door and then instead of absnet mindedly swinging at the poxies you now have 3 people standing there doing nothing for the duration. What about this is an actual benefit to the mission objective which is auto completing after a guy spends 5 seconds on it?
>>550687464No, post an example of GW doing this. Im aware FS does this, that’s why I said it
>>550688114You're almost there, anon. Think about it a little more. And no I'm not trying to be rude, but I can tell you're almost there. This is telling as I'd wager money most people only get as far as what you've managed to (so far).
>>550687657>train mission>timed tightwow, really is just the bottomfeeding retards playing it anymore huh? I don't think I ever failed it due to the timer. The only time I wiped was due to getting knocked off by the void shield which admittedly is avoidable I just didn't really know yet
>>550688114it's pointless to use it before the disarming actually begins and it will open back up if you do thatit should be used the moment the prompt to interact with the bomb shows up as it will keep the door shut during the entire duration of the disarming and even slightly afterit also helps the retarded pubs know we're done in that room and they should turn around and leave, they tend to get stuck in there
>>550688295No need to be a passive aggressive woman, just give me your reasoning. Are you saying you struggle with the light trickle of poxwalkers coming into the door with 3 people locking down a choke? Cause I think you're about that retarded, seeing as how you also called the timing tight (the old timing wasn't even tight and you get like 4 more minutes than that now)
>>550688392You've already been spoonfed. See the post above your screeching. Also, please learn to read. See the first post, too: >>550687494 an anon has been non-stop failing it and yet you cry at the post talking to him and not failing anon? You are genuinely fucked in the head in both ways.
>>550688149Have you read any BL?
>>550688309>>550688295>>550687657I have literally, never once, not even with the old objective that required 1 guy to use it permanently, seen a single enemy get past that door, and I never see anyone lock it. You must be actually, horribly, abundantly dogshit if you're letting enemies through that door. There is literally nothing else going on, it's just that one hallway
>>550687662I’m aware, but we’re sure as shit not getting anything like that, so the base Genestealer units are what we should be looking at as much as I’d love something like the stuff Necromunda’s cut off is spewing out.>>550687685Hence why I said “sometimes”. Otherwise they’re just crazy people risking their lives out of zeal, I.e. something we already have. Also they’re more often than not women and that would be weird to translate into a class
>>550688508>use it permanentlyWhat the fuck did the izzat ragebaiter mean by this? I think it's time to give copeg the attitude I give other generals of 'never engage in any back-and-forth' due to the ragebaiters.
>>550688508>>550688392I just realized this, but: You know that helbore vet who just stands still and shoots 1 blast at a time at poxwalkers? Imagine a mission with 4 of them and now you have the average players experience in Darktide. These people are among us
>>550688592Sus
>>550688589>What the fuck did the izzat ragebaiter mean by this?Before they made rolling steel way easier and they heavily increased the time limit, you had to continuously use the auspex for the entire duration of the event. You get breaks now. >izzat! >ragebait! ever consider there's just things you don't know? Ironically you would never, because now THAT'd be some lost izzat.
>game gives you a tool to help herd your retarded randoms>schizo on copeg calls (you) the shitter for having the tiny bit of awareness on how and why to properly use such a basic tool that's out of his grasp of understandingFunny thread.
>>550688508>>550688392it has nothing to do with how helpful or necessary it might be, it's purely that its a mechanic for a map that has been there for years now and yet some people have just refused to learn how it might best be usedit's like seeing people not throwing the virus samples up from the ramp in excise vault, come on man, you've had time to figure this out, someone must've done it in your game at least once>>550688589at one point the duration of the minigame was as long as the progress bar for the disarming is instead of like 20% of it, so one person needed to stand there with their dick in their hands for all three disarming sequences the entire time
>>550687378Didn't get to finish what I wanted to say before my game started.>bossesMakes sense we diverge again. I'm pretty happy with just keeping them chemmed up with the Needle Pistol and whacking them if they need further attention. That is a nice bit of damage on monsters though for sure.
>>550688783It's literally pointless. Enemies can't egt in through that door anyway because there's already at least 3 people killing them at the chokepoint
>>550688849>still missing the point and still refuses to readAnother anon already spoonfed your dumbass on this >>550688592Ragebaiting cocksucker, neck yourself immediately (in the next rolling steel mission).
>>550687638Ahhh I was forgetting the crit aura.
>>550688149You replied to an example of that, Catholic got warped to Catheric. Hell, most of the names of places on Terra are warped from contemporary times. The Himalazian mountains being the foremost example. How fucking new are you?
>>550688910they literally stop coming from there when the second door opens so people move on their own anyway, weird attempt at making something reality that just isntbut what did I expect from someone who unironically struggles with the nerfed train mission
>>550688979Again, already been answered: >>550688309It's clear who plays the game (these other anons and I) and who do not (you).Fling yourself off of a moving train (the train in rolling steel).> nerfed train missionOnly the original guy does, hence why he failed every attempt thus far with it. Everybody else since (apparently) hasn't. You really can not read for shit it's actually impressive. Izzat is too powerful huh.
>>550689108>you have to lock the door to help peopel do the auspexyou do not, it makes no difference to them
>>550689160>still can't read despite multiple posts spoonfeeding otherwiseYep, ragebait + izzat is too powerful.
>merely point out that rolling steel is near impossible to carry in pubs at the moment>shit flinging ensures Wild desu
Going from Shiv Cummer to Eviscerator Zealot feels like such a fucking downgrade in terms of killing ability. Holy fuck
>>550689160Nothing is obvious enough for you brownoids. You can lead a brownoid to water, but you can't stop them from shitting in it and making themselves deathly ill
>>550689312It is what it is.
>>550689197Post says this: >it should be used the moment the prompt to interact with the bomb shows up as it will keep the door shut during the entire duration of the disarming and even slightly afterdoesn't matter, no enemies get through the choke either way>it also helps the retarded pubs know we're done in that room and they should turn around and leave, they tend to get stuck in thereenemies stop spawning there anyway once it's over You keep going on about izzat but you're on some extremely powerful inability to admit it's a pointless mechanic, because you've been shilling that retarded lock for no reason and it's an attack on your honor that I'm disputing it
>>550688943But I’m talking about High Gothic terms specifically. I know that there are irl things still technically around but called something else, that’s more just a progression of language, I’m talking about the actual words and/or pronounciation being messed up in game
>>550688001There is no opportunity cost to be made.
>>550689396>the actual words and/or pronounciation being messed up in gameExamples?
>>550689312>give a small suggestion regarding a grossly misused mechanic unique to that map>some faggot goes on tirade on how the person offering help is somehow the person failing the map/vg/ is a mistake.
>>550689396It's hard to talk about High Gothic because it's not english, low gothic isn't even strictly english, we only see it that way for convenience. There isn't a made up lexicon we can reference and translate, but it's assumed to be a bastardisation of Latin, so there are a lot of words with -ius and and -ium tacked on to make it sound latin-ish, and that's "High Gothic", but most of those words aren't real latin words.
>>550689410>there isn't any opportunity cost involved in picking your melee weapon blessing among 3-4 highly competitive onesIf you have nothing to say, it's better to just shut the fuck up.
>>550689487see >>550689374You still can't make an argument as to why it's actually a helpful mechanic. The door is irrelevant. It doesn't help anyone, ever
>>550686332>I don't understand the "you have enough crit chance" argumentassuming a normal hit does 100 damage and a crit is 2xattack 10 times at 100% crit for 2000 damageattack 10 times at 80% crit but with a 3x multiplier for 2600 damageunfortunately I can't read lua so I don't know what the real values aremaybe you can?https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/master/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/dual_shivs/settings_templates/dual_shivs_damage_profile_templates.lua
>>550689728See: >>550688592Meanwhile you've offered absolutely zero help to the original guy who has failed every attempt. You are a great example of those detrimental to the communities they infest.
>>550689608True, but even so, some of the ways the VAs pronounce the (actual) Latin words and the context they use them in is just weird, you can argue if this is fatsharks fault or not but it still adds to the list of stuff that’s lacking as far as in-universe flavor text is concerned
>>550689850>assuming a normal hit does 100 damage and a crit is 2xThat's a bad assumption. Check damage profiles. On some armor types, a crit headshot is is almost 4x the damage of a regular headshot. On almost all armor types, crit bodyshots do 3x-5x more damage than a non crit bodyshotAlso procs talents like the toxin on hit, and hypercritical if you build around that meme.
>>5506898634 players htat shit can't beat a mission anyway, there's no advice to give. They just die, queue again and get carried by someone who isn't such an utter retard in the nextAll it takes is one guy to guarantee success in aurics.>Meanwhile you've offered absolutely zero help to the original guy who has failed every attempt.sometimes the truth is simply "git gud" and it hurts
>>550690031He was just using those numbers to explain the mechanic, you colossal fucking dingus.
>>550689929>some of the ways the VAs pronounce the (actual) Latin words and the context they use them in is just weirdLatin is a dead language, it's only spoken by people who actively study it and that number has shrunk drastically in the last century since Latin ceased to be a required subject for higher education. VA's, game developers and tabletop wargaming figurine salesmen aren't exactly linquistic scholars scholars.
>>550690248He was doing napkin math with numbers that don't remotely represent real ones. Whichever conclusion you come to doing that, even just to explain a concept, is off.
>>550690501>linquistic scholars scholarsWow that was a pretty bad stroke
>>550690657>scholars that study scholars
>>550686778>>550686896
>>550690568You're retarded. The numbers don't matter if the intent is to convey reasoning. Whether that reasoning is correct or not IS determined by number accuracy but the process itself doesn't change just because the values involved do. But continue throwing your bitchfit about it.
>>550690909>The numbers don't matter if the intent is to convey reasoning.They do. If he had assumed crits don't do any bonus damage then he could assume that getting crit up is pointless. Extreme example, but assuming crits only do 2x damage on shivs is also too extreme to be applicable
>>550691042Okay retard
uncanny on shivs is pointless on aurics because crushers arent a problem there anywayuncanny on shivs is highly situational on h40 because crushers are gunked up in brittleness on almost any comp anywaythank you for listening to my ted talk
>>550691090It just seems like you didn't understand the discussion or the point of it at all. If you want to determine the value of crit rate then the actual crit damage matters, I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around that. I didn't call him retarded or anything, I was just telling him what the actual damage profile is and where to find it, because he himself thought he'd have to check LUA for it.Now get your last word in as izzat demands, my little brown friend. make it sting!!
>>550691137with just the rampage rending node I already two shot them, and climb to a one shot after a good HV proc, soooo
>>550691525honestly I dont even bother with that node and i'm still raping them via HV rng
>>550691137Crushers are one of the only non-special problems in Aurics. They're big, so they block movement, vision, and shots on specials, and they have a one-hit attack that'll pass through other Ogryn enemies. You're fine not running Uncanny because Shivs are crazy. But there's just not a lot of competition for Uncanny in Aurics.>BleedWow, the shivs that already cleave like crazy now bleed too. It's fucking nothing. Monsters are a complete joke in Aurics. You see 1-2 per map (outside monster mashes), and they're never a threat. The bleed is mostly there to kill shit you're already mowing down even harder rather than help against something actually important. In Havocs, I could see the argument if you lack a Psyker. But I'd rather double up on Riposte+Precog than run a bleed blessing in Aurics.
>>550691687>crushers could be here
>>550691772Cute
>>550691772
>>550691772kek
>>550691232>what the actual damage profile is and where to find itDid 4chan eat your link?
>>550691232No, I understood the point, but you sperged out at me when all I was saying was that changing the numbers doesn't change the formula behind them, so the numbers he used in his example didn't matter at all. The guy you responded to was just using clean numbers for simplicity's sake. He wasn't arguing the case.>izzat When the fuck did this niggerspeak shit start exactly? I've seen it since coming back for the Cummer update.>>550692154Look at the in-game stats. Maybe there's a steam guide with them, but I don't know about that.
>>550692938>all I was saying>you were spergingweird, I recall you having a meltdown after I helpfully pointed out the actual damage profiles
>>550692154I thought I mentioned it but damage profiles are ingame you dont need to go through the lua
>>550693123I didn't realize calling you a "colossal fucking dingus" and later calling you a retard for getting so defensive you needed to effectively argue that the basic math involved in 2+2 changes when you make it 3+3 was a meltdown. I'll keep that in mind.>after I helpfully pointed out You phrased it as a correction when nothing the guy said was actually wrong for his purpose, to the point where it seemed you'd missed his point entirely. He answered a question you asked, and then you bitched like it wasn't helpful. So I called you a silly name for it.
>>550639109ogryns are americans??
darktide, but it's an RE mercenaries mode
Why do the shivs have better horde clear and single target damage than either of the other scummie weapons? What point do they serve at all? The crowbar can be kind of workable since it staggers but why would you ever use the sneedsaw over the shivs?
>>550695464>be fatshark>make new class>give class new exclusive weapons>just a pair of rusty shanks>somehow the rusty shanks shit on carapace armor harder than the dedicated armor busting weapons (power maul, thunder hammer)Fatshark's design philosophy regarding weapons is genuinely fucking dumb.
>>550695464Sneedsaw is held back by its moveset. The slow speed doesn't help either for the damage, but the moveset in particular hobbles it. Otherwise there would be a case to be made of using it with max attack speed nodes and stim, and all the toxin debuff/buff nodes. Regardless, this is just pointless talk because the moveset sucks such shit you can't really capitalize on this in a space where it'd work well (it cannot into hordes, so it cannot into synergizing with the other things effectively).
>>550682941It's an ability designed for havoc and it shows.
>>550696515Even in havoc it feels underwhelming as fuck, imo it needs more range/radius on the area so you don't need to direcly hug the medicrate.
is this the mod showing cosmetics that are unavailable i'm thinking yes
>>550696108You can do push attack followed by 2 heavy attacks, but it still won't be all that good cleave and it's still way too slow
>>550696758They forgot to install counter strike source.
>>550695464>bonesawheld back by the built in tox application which fatshark must've overestimated to be really strong>crowbarThey made the special overhead into two separate damage numbers instead of just one. That's not very conducive to HV, despite crowbar supposedly being the designated weapon choice of middle tree scum.>shivsrule of cool, they wanted to sell the class on dual wielding so they gave these extra special attention
>>550696703there's a node specifically for that purpose
>>550696758you just know someone swapped out the penance and event reward last minute so there was an actual reward for the event
>>550695464Just wait until you try using the good old combat blade.
>>550697248>so they gave these extra special attentionIt's 2 rusty pieces of trash
>>550697573What mark? I will buy the fucking skin that's on sale for it right fucking now if it is genuinely better than the shivs, I doubt it.>>550697718All the better to sell skins for.
>>550697751How often do you use the throwing knife special? If the answer is "not all that often" and if you are a staminamaxxing chad, the Mk3 throws better numbers than both the shivs and the other mark.
>>550697248>>they wanted to sell the class on dual wielding>only has 3 dual wield weapons, 2 of which are just guns so there isn't any interesting move set there either>didn't even both making dual wield combat knives or even tac axesThis already just tells us that the devs are half assing everything.
>>550698456They are saving the dual axes for a weapon class that is shared with the other human classes
>>550698281I'm assuming you must be spamming lights on the crushers, because combat knife heavies are fucking gross to perform compared to shiv heavies. I can see a big performance difference between the shivs and combat knife while light spamming them down, but I'm thinking that's mainly the busted uncanny you can get on the old knife.I do use the throw quite often, also, to kill specials in spitting distance and to refresh tox on bosses instead of having to pull out the needler again.
more red dust for the daily VT2 gift
>>550697573I used to use the combat knife on veteran all the time but have never used it on scummie. Is it that much better than the shivs? I don't remember the knife being that good into hordes, especially the MkIII, I always used the MkVI
I just got the new class, really liking it so far. Bless the fullauto and stimm cd mods tho. Also holy fuck you need to spend 1.2 millions dosh to fully master a weapon. Also first time all three purple nodes look appealing
>>550698902silver coins soon too I guess
>>550699597>1.2 millions dosh to fully master a weaponAre you just buying profane weapons to sacrifice or something?
>>550699709yeah basically. To rush em' to Level 20. there's a mod which buys then ipgrade to green then sacrifice it for you. I just have to spam a sacrifice button below brunt's armory
>>550699786Surely that costs a hefty amount of plasteel, too?
>>550699894mmmmmmmmm probably, didn't count but I guess it did. I'll check it out next time I do it and come back to you
New bread doko onegai desuwa bread 4 mi kokoro onegai dokodeska??
>>550699709That's mostly what you do when you've played the game for a long time, you've got the currency to spare at that point.
>>550698874They are never going to make or add them because they are lazy.
>>550700609Oh ye of little faith...
>>550700757He has exactly the correct amount of faith when it comes to Fartshart you apologizer.
>>550700798>>550700798>>550700798>>550700798>>550700798MOVE
>>550698894If you loathe its heavy attacks and don't feel like setting up skitarius to spam the special combo for you at sanic speed, then yeah stick to the shivs.>>550699427The vet doesn't get the silly amount of attack speed, crit and strength (cleave) of the scummer. With those stats you don't really need the heavy sweeps of the mk6 to clear hordes.
>>550701058>setting up skitarius to spam the special combo for you at sanic speed>cheatingI saw a psyker doing this shit with one of the force swords in havoc and I just left. Miss me with that gay shit. I would not have a person who does that on my team.
>>550694937You joke but that could seriously work if they want it to >>550690501I mean sure but Warhammer itself usually does a pretty good job with this stuff and other games have gotten stuff right about it before which is why I say it’s likely down to Fatshark’s Swedishness for getting it so iffy
>>550702528>Warhammer itself usually does a pretty good job with this stuffThe Blackius Librariarius really doesn't.
>>550659303I get attacked and interrupted by a single poxwalker that has snuck out of the ether and ended up behind me
>>550703023Depends on the story/author. You have a lot of them who do
