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>>550557948
Will we finally get playable aprilis?
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vankid going to be pissed now and gonna blame cs fans OH NO!!!!!!!!!

You can tell vankid is upset with the hurling insults he throws at cs fans without defending his arc LMAO. Vankid is for sure bothered by the recent news of no kai 2. its cs fans fault thought am i right?
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xanadubros, today was not our day...
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Man when SC remake sells worse than FC, It will be interesting. Remakes won't save your ass decisions Kondo.
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>>550557940
Update the OP bro
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Post your Estelles, she's getting another game.
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>No TX2 or Kai 2 next year
>Falcom essentially confirming they are sticking to their one big game a year strategy
Haha...this opens up the possibility, what if they make the 2027 game TX2 first instead of Kai 2 haha....
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>>550558123
Its not real you idiot
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Can someone explain to me the "black dots" captcha? that shit kicked my ass when i was making the OP.
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>>550558251
AIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>550558214

>>550558276
You basically choose the options that don't look like the others. Slide it to see all.
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>>550558214
It'll happen for sure this time.
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>>550558212
wanted to keep it Christmas related. added the link to Steam on top but forgot to change the date.
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so kondo said kai 2 was expensive to make?
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Falcom cannot do 2 games a year. Even when doing asset flip remakes they still can only release one game a year.
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>>550558363
Whoops I forgot the pic
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>>550558449
The development of Calvard ran on Blackrock money, with funding pulled it's not feasible to produce Kai 2.
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I don't mind waiting.
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>>550558449
That was a lie.
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>>550558485
After Kai flopped they said they'd pull back a bit. Unless I dreamt that haha.
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>>550558214
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Vankidfag seething lmao
Kino in the Sky 2nd Chapter...finally
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>>550558212
Of course Renne is fucking part of the main art. She wasn't even THAT important in SC in the grand scheme of things, most of her actual "development" is in sky 3rd.
Of course the entire cast just got sidelined in the cover with the exception of the addition of Weissman.
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Reminder that Remake Kloe is going to end up with Alisa.
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2026 SC
2027 TX2
2028 Either Kai 2 or new Ys
2029 Either Kai 2 or new Ys

You won't be seeing Kai 2 for a while.
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does anyone have the full q&a?
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>>550558214
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>>550558764
For me, it's her Joshua colors.
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I want to slap Rixia's ass so hard.
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They're using AI to write Kai 2
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>>550558224
>A 4-year gap between new mainline Kiseki
Kondo would have to hit ascended levels of retardation not humanly possible for that to happen. Not only has there never been a gap that long between a new mainline release(longest is 3 years), having a gap that long for a game that ends on one of the biggest cliffhangers, Kondo might as well just admit Kiseki ended with Kai and from there they will just start remaking the whole series.
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>They couldnt get TX2 out even though they announced it 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahaha
It's so funny to be a Falcom doomer because you always expect the minimum from them and they still manage to make you look like an optimist every time
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>>550558951
Probably 500 more retarded Nadia & Swin hijinks
u rike?
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>>550558951
Calvard century of humiliation confirmed.
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>Agnes saved us from more Kuro by hitting the reset button
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>>550558214
Haha... good job Estelle. You kept Falcom from dipping further into debt. Good girls like you deserve headpats.
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>only one (1) major release for 2026
>it's a game that will inevitably sell worse than the previous one
>no rereleases, ports or expansions like ys memoire, tokyo xanadu switch, or proud nordics from previous years
>falcom still predicts 2026 to have similar sales performance to this year somehow with only one release
unless they've got something big up their sleeves they're saving for a nintendo direct or something i just can't see how this is gonna be a good fiscal year for shareholders.
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>>550558896
>>550558909
Weird how letting her hair down while also changing her hair color makes her look so different, haha.
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Apparently the Sky remakes are done because they have lower costs, serve as a break for the burnt out team (i dont get how this is the case because theyre still just making more kiseki) and to train younger staff
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>>550558723
You know what? Good. She should. They deserve to be happy together.
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We are definitely getting Sky 3rd before Kai 2 now.
>Sky 2nd - 2026
>TK2/Sky 3rd -2027/28
>Kai 2 - 2029
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>>550558951
>So creatively bankrupt they are using AI to brainstorm scenarios while buying time with remakes
I was being half-serious here >>550543524 but turns out they really DON'T know how the fuck to move the plot forward after Kai and are hiding it with the remakes LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>550558214
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Calvard broke the series. Van failed.
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>>550558449
rean's voice actor is expensive
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>>550558214
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Its UP
https://trails2ndchapter.com/
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You know what I'm glad. I don't want to spend the next 2-3 years waiting for a game that's just going to be a rushed disappointment anyway. I think I'm finally free from this series.
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towastinkiest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. Her feet get really stinky after a long day of teaching, developing lesson plans and grading papers after school!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towastinkiest!!!!
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Good night /fg/.
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>>550558896
Joshua looks good with twintails.
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>>550558214
She won
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Generally what is kondo doing? He's fucking up at every business decision.
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Why would the SC remake even take so long? It's not like they're writing anything new and 90% of the assets needed for the story already exist. Seems like something that wouldn't take up this many resources. Or is TX2's development really that far behind?
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I underestimated how badly Calvard did for them. The remake looked way more expensive then anything in Kai.
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>>550560236
>8951
kai has more mocap animations
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>>550559991
Good night sis
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>>550560236
They spent all their budget on all those stupid le hype overanimated fight cutscenes in order to try to appeal to gachafags.
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>>550560315
Why not just have decent weapon choreography instead of relying on special effects? Wouldn't that not only look better but also save on costs?
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>>550560297
>>550560315
I see.
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>>550558672
For Estelle she was...
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At this point they basically guarantee that Calvard doesn't end with Kai 2.
They can't make people wait 4 or 5 years and still be reusing assets from 2021 but they'll also never make a Kiseki game that has brand new assets that won't be reused for a sequel.
Expect Kai 2 to end on another cliffhanger for Kai 3.
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>>550559991
Good night
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>>550560315
They spent all that money on fight scenes that just get interrupted half way through kek. What the fuck was Kondo thinking?
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>>550560650
Holy kek yea. What a waste.
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>NOTHING
>No TX2
>No Kai 2
>Not even just Ys IX again but the textures are upscaled with AI and Aprilis is playable
>Just a remake of a game that already recycles most of its assets
What the hell
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>>550559519
>I was being half-serious here
Only half huh? I knew that Kondo was lost at the beginning of Kalvard.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/nihon-falcom-actively-using-ai-for-brainstorming-scenarios-conducting-research-and-similar-applications.1386748/

>Kondo just instantly thanos snapped Resetera out of their fanbase

This literally makes up for no Kai 2
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Is it really only SC remake?
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I assume same localizers who worked on sky the first is doing it? I know its still gungho as publisher but I assume acctil is still translator/editor?

Did kondo mention anything about publisher or localizer for kai 2 or sky 2 remake? or using ai for translations
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Thankfully Kondo's dead ending of the series has been reset by Laegjarn's Chest
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>>550560858
Yea.
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>>550560926
kai does give them a good opportunity to just redo calvard
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>>550559805
>I think I'm finally free from this series.
We won't let you free yourself so easily! You will suffer with us.
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>the rest of kiseki will literally be written by AI
what changes?
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>>550560818
what about ys 9? can someone tell me the full tldr whats happening with it?
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>>550560952
LMFAO
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>>550561017
nothing theyve been doing it for years
see swin and nadia
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>>550561023
It's just that they made an updated version of 10 and they already said before that they regretted not making Aprilis playable so it'd just be fairly easy to just push out an updated version of the game
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bros... hold me... tell me it's gonna be okay...
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>>550561017
Considering modern AI is largely trained on R*ddit and social media, I can't imagine it being too different from Kuro.
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>>550561167
>two swords
You just KNOW
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>>550561017
This series has been written by a schizo AI since Sky 2nd.
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ElysiumGPT, generate me Joshua and Estelle again but make them both edgier
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>>550561167
Canceled for lack of interest.
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>>550561167
So this is just Lloyd and Rean mixed together
What do we call it? Royd? Llean?
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this is a sad day for /fg/
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>>550561167
This comes out before Kai 2. Probably
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I miss fanfic anon...
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My only cope that Kai 2 releases in spring/summer of 2027.
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isnt NISA just fucked without any kiseki game and ys game to localize for a while? Are they going to be the ones even doing kai 2 at this point?
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>>550561476
>2027.
2028. 29 if Sky 3rd gets prioritized.
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>>550561271
>hallucinates edgy rean instead
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For me, it's Towa.
Shame about no Kai 2. As much as I like Sky 1st, I feel that remakes just means the series will stall.
Gonna be a Falcom drought next year...
>>550559803
Man it's weird to see Mueller actually DOING something. Looking back it's strange as hell that he isn't playable in Cold Steel or at least Reverie. Reverie even has the perfect story excuse for bringing him back: wanting to more actively defend the now half-blind Olivert.
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>>550561527
Anon I know we like to doom here, but Kai 2 at the latest will release in 2027.
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>>550561554
Im okay with this since I wanted Sky 2nd more anyway
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Shyte 2nd will be an even bigger flop than 1st lmao
Hope it and Kai 2 will take Falcom down with them
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>>550561643
But Xanadu is farther along. They even had art for it.
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>/fg/ is finally alive
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It wouldn't be so shit if we didn't all already know that they'll put no effort into Kai 2 anyways. Just make the game already
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She won.
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>>550561836
Yeah she will have the honor of having the worse selling game in the franchise.
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>>550561829
This. Kai had like 2 years of dev time and it meant nothing. Waiting 3+ years for more of that is awful.
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>>550561894
>worse
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>worse
Reanlatinxes, everyone.
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Do we like the new logo
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>>550562115
no
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Dude steampunk lmao
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>>550561894
No one gives a flying fuck about Calvard buddy. Working on a game that doesn't suck the soul outta the devs is more important than getting another asset flip sooner.
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>tfw wait for kai 2 will be longer than sen 3
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>>550561554
Mintu a cuteu!
A CUTEU!
Jesus Christ look at that elbow pit. QUALITY 3D modeling.
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>>550562204
>makes 2 more asset flips
Damn, I can tell the devs are full of soul now
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>>550562341
They have more fun making those.
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I liked Kai quite a bit, so I'm cool with waiting longer for the sequel, cause the game will turn out better as a result, would rather they take their time instead of rushing it and creating another Daybreak/Kuro 2.
I'm a bit excited for the SC Remake as well, the Liber Ark in 4K Ultra HD is gonna look amazing, man
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>>550562204
>making an effortless asset flip that i like is more important than an effortless asset flip that i don't like
Skykeks are funny creatures
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>>550562450
They put way more effort into the remake.
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>>550560952
Based
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>>550562430
Kai 2 won't be better just because they were twiddling their thumbs doing nothing for the last few years. The development will start a year prior as usual
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>>550560952
KEK
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>>550559983
5. She has immigrant shotas cum inside her shoes because she's an Immigration NGO Girl!!!!!
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No regular human being is looking forward to dealing with the shutdown part again
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>>550562890
YOU'RE an immigration NGO girl who has cum in her shoes!!!!!
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>>550563015
You wish!
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I can't imagine being a non-ironic kaifag.
This is just too fucked up even by 4chan standards.
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>>550563015
Wait that anon is a girl that cummed in Towa's shoes??? Can... can girls do that...?
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>>550562961
I wonder how it will be executed.
Not having access to arts without using a specific accessory will simply not be an issue because of how much easier it is to avoid combat in the remake.
Plus the remake has fast travel.
They're not really going to disable fast travel and force absolutely zero-stakes (high speed mode) running across all of Liberl, are they?
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>>550559983
5. Towa has a nice butt!!!!!
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>>550563206
Squirters are very real - I've dated one.
Yes, I know it's mostly piss.
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>>550563331
Reanasis is this true
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>>550563325
>visible vulva
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I dont like sky the first localization but I like it more than NISA. So i dont mind sky 2 remake
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>>550563436
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25545022/
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>>550563547
Thanks Reanasis... I think... haha...
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>>550563218
I'm expecting them to do forced battles now that I think about it. That's the only thing that makes sense.
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>>550562961
Most of original Sky's gameplay friction comes from
>No fast travel
>Crafts being complete dogshit
1st fixes both of those. So the infamous shutdown chapter will probably be a breeze in the remake since the physical attackers will actually pull their weight this time around.
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>>550563803
Crafts in the remake are simply 99% dogshit instead of complete dogshit.
They still suck compared to arts.
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Wait Reanafemanon you dated a squirter
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>>550563943
I am not "Reanasis" or "Reanafemanon." I am Towacutestfag.
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>>550564092
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>>550564092
...did you date a girl like Towa?
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>>550564212
Not quite that short but that skinny and flat.
Also a domme.
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>>550557940
is the shareholder meeting today or tomorrow?
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>>550564354
It happened already. Sky 2nd confirmed. No Kai 2 (Calvard is too expensive), no TX2 (they forgot), Mishy got executed live on stage.
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So, was ther any censorship in sky remake?
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>>550564668
Yes.
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>>550564585
>Calvard is too expensive
Haha.....ha
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>>550564668
Anelace no longer wants a BOYfriend like Joshua.
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>>550564718
It's sadly true, Sky 1st was both a small fraction the cost and also didn't make the devs hate themselves while working on it.
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>>550564585
So it's just sky 2nd?
i hoped some more news
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>>550564943
That and Mishy getting fired.
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>>550564859
Jesus fucking christ Kondom. What is he DOING
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>>550564726
Why?
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Can't lie, I wanted them to have more time to write Kai 2 so I don't mind waiting but this AI shit is too much. Like, clearly they didn't care or mind given how obvious it is that Sky remake used AI translations, but for them to write scenarios? Best case scenario is AI is used for sidequests, which is hard to imagine them becoming even more dull, worst case scenario the writing team, or Kondo, has no faith in themselves/in it.
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>>550564859
It's weird that Sky 1st is apparently cheaper to make than Daybreak when Sky looks a million times better presentation-wise.
Is it because of the small playable cast?
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Sky 1st did what all the Calvard games were SUPPOSED to do: attract more western players. This and the lower dev cost are why Falcom are prioritizing them.
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>>550565065
>Looking ahead to FY2026, Nihon Falcom expects a small drop in revenue and profit due to a period of transition in development activity. The company predicts revenue of ¥2,600 million (down 0.5 percent), an operating profit of ¥1,300 million (down 3.0 percent), and a net profit of ¥900 million (down 0.4 percent).
Tlansition yealu. Prease undelstandu.
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>>550565176

i prefer ai transaltions to the fanfiction NISA put out with daybreak 1 and daybreak 2
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>>550565275
The Calvard games honestly seem like the peak example of being for fucking no one.
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>>550565186
Calvard relied heavily on mocap tech and tried to appeal to gacha players to help recoup costs. That failed. Sky 1st didn't need nearly as much and had usable choreography ideas already.
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I don't understand why they made Calvard so western.
People don't play Kiseki because it's fucking western. People play Kiseki because Kiseki games are weeb anime games.
People who play weeb anime games don't want to play western-looking woke trash.
What the fuck.
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And it also reinforces my fear that the writing dip seen ever since Cold Steel is no coincidence: Kondo planned up until some scenarios of Cold Steel 2 at best, and the writing team had to fill in the gaps. Kondo, this type of autism where you tell a multi-episode sprawling story needs more than an opening arc; it requires a full skeleton like pic related.

I am conflicted.
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>>550565542
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>>550565542
We've had this conversation, there is nothing inherently "Western" about Kuro.
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>>550565815
Nta but he said the action combat was made because of foreign feedback.
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>>550565335
I prefer something that is cohesive with a few cringe jokes to shit that makes no sense like a character using "Mr." out of the blue for no reason. Or the low effort of GungHo who clearly did not revise or read their MTLslop past the prologue, which is the most natural-sounding part of the game.
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>There there, it's okay, you'll get more games later. Just hold on, okay?
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>>550566000
You just reminded me that Kai 2 might not even be the end. Fucking hell.
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>>550565815
The graphics are clearly more western than the CS3/4 engine graphics and wokeshit is clearly not a Japanese thing.
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>>550566000
Trips confirm, Estelle will bring us more games.
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>>550564585
>Calvard is too expensive
How? They had no trouble making a filler game in a year to cover for the delay of Ys X, and most of it is reused assets. How can he have the nerve to say that?
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>>550566189
Either mocap really costs that much or hes lying and is trying to delay making more Calvard games. Maybe it's both.
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I don't know about you people, but I'm excited to see my Ys wife again.
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Unironic chance of Cold Steel 1 remake? CS1 and 2 are pretty dated...
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>>550566386
If they're talking abour Zero already then CS1 isnt too far behind. Especially if they really do skip 3rd.
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>>550566054
Graphics thing is such a reach lol.
Kondo said the identity politics are something he thinks Japan needs. You are delusional to inject your American delusions into it or to think Falcom wants blue-haired freaks to buy their games.
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You know who also still has an ongoing game?
Lavi WON.
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>>550566512
I kneel....
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>Falcom cares more about Lavi's shit gacha game than Calvard
Holy shit this is somehow all the more damning
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The POWER of mobile....
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my FUARKING hero
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...maybe... maybe Reanasis was right... maybe... maybe Van should have been a girl...
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>>550565995
fair enough. I agree gungho isnt ideal. But I promise you im not exaggerating when daybreak 1 and 2 had waay more than "a few" cringe jokes and more mischaracterizations and fanfiction. At least gungho estelle was more charming to me than xseed. But I dont know its just preference at the end of the day. The fact that theres an "xstelle" shows how far differences can happen
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>>550565995
nta but did you play NISA daybreak 1/2? You dont know how bad the trannylations were if you didnt play them
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>uh guys...
>you didn't forget about me right...
>you didn't forget about my arc that hasn't finished right..
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>>550566868
this art style is so much better than kuros but i hate remake shit so much
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Y'all hear sum?
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>>550566493
>Kondo said the identity politics are something he thinks Japan needs.
Nigga really thinks Japan needs KGB subversion tactics?
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>>550565542
HEY STOP IT ANON!!!! how else are western people like floofy and reddit supposed to enjoy the games. Everybody knows cold steel is the most hated arc in the west. Reddit hates cold steel, discords hate em, 4chan hates em, falcord hates them. So making calvard less weeb like cold steel clearly got them more sales worldwide and more western sales than cold steel right???
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>>550567085
I would never forget about you. You're the best Sonic villain.
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>>550567085
I don't care anymore. If Falcom doesn't care then why should we? I really wish I didn't play Kuro 1, 2 or Kai and I wouldn't have if I knew Falcom were just gonna pull the rug out from under everyone who did. The people who dropped this series after Reverie have no idea how good they have it.
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>>550566493
Erm but Van has blue hair......oh no....
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Literally all it took for westerners to like the games more was a female protagonist LMFAO
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So Joshua's fake stigma is in the shape of a flame. In the Bible, flames are symbolic of God and they are considered to be evidence of his power.
In Kiseki, Ouroboros uses that flame symbol. Obviously the main symbol is that of the snake eating its head but I am stumped on what the flame means. The only thing I can come up with is it means something like the fire of Prometheus, which enlightened mankind; Ouroboros does have a lot of tech that is basically considered more advance than anything else in existence. But only a select few know of this.
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guys guys i accidentally the whole arc
sorry about that hang in there only 20 more years
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>Calvard destroys the series
>Sky turns it into endless remake slop
Haha ..
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the cliffhanger in kai was so shit that no one cares about falcom releasing two new games instead of the sequel
can you imagine the seethe if they did the same thing after cold steel 3? because that was an actual good cliffhanger
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>even the Lavifag is bullying them
Dark day for Calvard fans
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They should probably plan things out better....sloppy work kondo....
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>>550567546
reddit and the west thinks kais cliffhanger is more brutal.
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>>550567546
yea but then one year dev time to make cold steel 4 made it shit. So one year release isnt always a good thing as your making it out to be
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If Kai 2 ever comes out it will be absolutely destroyed by JP now because the long wait won't be worth it.
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Q:
Regarding the sales strategy for the Trails series. Personally, I was disappointed that Kai no Kiseki did not conclude. Wouldn’t it have been better to wait until the story was finished before doing a remake? Was the decision to insert a remake this time the result of weighing the benefit of attracting new users against the risk of alienating existing ones?

Kondo:
We apologize for keeping everyone waiting on Kai no Kiseki, and for the concern this has caused.

The reason we decided to insert a remake of Sora no Kiseki was to acquire new users. Kai no Kiseki is a PlayStation-exclusive title, and it has become clear that the user base is gradually shrinking. Because we had narrowed the platforms, before Kai no Kiseki moves toward its conclusion, we felt it was necessary to increase the likelihood that people who had “graduated” from the series, or those who have been interested but found it difficult to jump in mid-story and thus stayed away, would return or join in. For that reason, we decided to insert a Sora no Kiseki remake at this point.

Kai no Kiseki also has very large development costs due to its scale. The Trails series has now been running for 20 years, and the development team has been worn down by operating online games as well. Internally, there was a desire to let the team take a breather, and to help raise motivation toward completing Kai no Kiseki. To that end, we wanted to return to our roots and take another look at Sora no Kiseki.

how does every single wors out of kondos mouth just make you lose more and more hope
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Estelle has killed Kiseki with remakeslop. All momentum the series had is gone.
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>>550567698
Nah. I wanted more time for them to cook up the plot and got what I want. Sad day for Xanadufags, if anything. Or the general, really. Kondom walked back the "two games a year" thing after the first fucking year kek
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>>550568005
Yes I wanted my Xanadu BRO
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this is what falcom gets for trying to appeal to the west
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I enjoyed the remake as a good nostalgia trip but I always liked that Trails was always moving forward and we were always seeing new things but the remakes are the first time this series just feels like its going backwards. Like it has no idea how to move forward anymore. Now we're looking at minimum two more years, could even be three or four, before the series finally moves forward again.
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nadia rizz
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>>550567929
>before Kai no Kiseki moves toward its conclusion, we felt it was necessary to increase the likelihood that people who had “graduated” from the series, or those who have been interested but found it difficult to jump in mid-story and thus stayed away, would return or join in. For that reason, we decided to insert a Sora no Kiseki remake at this point.
I told you, Reanspics. The writing was on the wall. You don't lose 90k fucking people and think you created a masterpiece beyond reproach. Doesn't matter what any popularity poll says. I guess Reanshits in Japan and the West have one thing in common: they are not Kiseki fans, they are just Cold Shit fans.
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>>550564287
Need a girl like this fr
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>>550567801
It was brutal how much of a shitty cop-out it was, yeah
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>>550567929
>Kai no Kiseki also has very large development costs due to its scale. The Trails series has now been running for 20 years, and the development team has been worn down by operating online games as well. Internally, there was a desire to let the team take a breather, and to help raise motivation toward completing Kai no Kiseki
What a cope answer. Remakes officially killed the Calvard arc.
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Since when did Renne develop winking as a thing anyway? CS4?
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>>550568390
>Kai no Kiseki also has very large development costs due to its scale
legitimately HOW
kai is fucking disgusting in how much of an asset flip it is
they promoted this big craft revamp and then only redid half of the existing crafts
you spend 1/4 of the game in a randomly generated dungeon
WHAT SCALE??? WHAT DEVELOPMENT COSTS???
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>>550568642
It's lying/damage control, the real answer is because they moronically wrote themselves into a corner.
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>>550568616
Since she met Ban-san and her cooch got wet for a dude and it wasn't a reflex for self-preservation
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>>550568616
winking specifically idk but she always was a semen demon
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>>550568287
>le 90k meme
Get a new material, Skytroon
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Falcom cut every single fucking corner imaginable so I don't believe that excuse for a second
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>>550568390
>operating online games as well
What online games? Were they ever even involved in the outsourced kusogachaslop?
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>>550568287
Guess there is no other way to view this...
Trails has been a slow motion trainwreck ever since Cold Steel. Remakes are cheap and easy to shit out, they have nostalgia and the added benefit of appealing to western newfags. I can bet you the reason the old seiyuu got replaced is to hire cheaper, newer talent.
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>>550567929
>>550568390
>>550568642
>>550568681
Neither of these are a good look for Calvard. Worst case scenario, both are true...
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>>550568792
>Get a new
ESL reanspic. How novel, lol
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Calvardfags, CSfags, TXfags. The time has come for us to band together and wage a final holy war on skyfags and remakeslop
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>>550569106
I accept your concession
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>>550569115
Vankid, I'm sorry you lost, but you have to calm down
Estelle said it will all be okay
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>>550568878
it's mtl
>オンラインゲームのようにスタッフが疲弊してきている。
the staff is becoming fatigued as if they were working on online games
full quote
>Q 軌跡シリーズで界が解決しなかったのは残念だった。空は完結してからでも良かったのでは?既存のユーザーが離れてしまうかもしれないリスクは?
>A 新規ユーザーの獲得のために空を挟んでいる。ここにきて、ユーザーの先細が明確化している。いったんシリーズを卒業している方や、気になっている方を界の途中でも参加してもらうことを狙った。界は開発コストが凄く高い。オンラインゲームのようにスタッフが疲弊してきている。界の完結へのモチベーションを高めたり、リフレッシュなども兼ねて空を挟んだ
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I wouldn't mind waiting so long if it meant we got a super high effort game with tons of new assets but we already know that we won't. So why the fuck is it taking so long?
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A CS1 remake would sell better btw. Nobody actually likes SC
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Not cool Bansan
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All the stages of grief on display.
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>>550569115
Why should I join forces with you when you've spent your time shitting on Cold Steel constantly? Vankid, you burned all of your bridges.
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>>550569258
lmao!
>>550569115
Nah, Sky is good.
>>550569197
Kill yourself, gay schizo pedophile
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Vankid, you're going full schizo
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oh god kai 2 doesnt get announced and vankids ALREADY blaming it on cold steel sales(ignoring that falcom dropped the ps vita between cs2 and cs3) LMAO. Why are vankids the most insecure people in the fandom
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>Every remake brings us closer to the cold steel remake are
Frightening thought
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i don't mind sc remake but i want kai 2
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>>550569365
>Sky is good.
Sky was never good.
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>>550569476
just dont play cold steel remake since you know the plot already. Why play something you know you hate vankid? Unless you secretly like cold steel like politicians lying about their sexuality
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SC remake is good for new loli Renne assets. Also Third will get skipped for Zero remake.
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>muh flop handheld
Lmaooooooooo why are Reanspics so afraid of the truth? Their arc did irreparable damage to the series and KINO IN THE SKY has to save the series.
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>>550569597
Based. TioGODS were so back
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>Calvard is too expensive
He never said this by the way
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>>550568287
cold steel still sold the most though??? Are skytroons incapable of not being insecure for one minute about their favorite arc not being the most popular jesus christ lol
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>vankidfag melty
Yep, seeing Sky 2nd do big numbers and be a fan favorite is not sitting well with them.
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I guess they want to keep any new fans they got with the remake so they go ahead with more. Problem is there will obviously be a sales drop and how many are gonna stay to continue the series unless they go on with zero/Ao remakes.
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vankid doesnt understand how popular handheld consoles are because they were born during fortnite era. I guess their small brains makes sense with their immaturity. no wonder cold steels plot was too complicated for their pea brains
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I kinda knew this would be the way Falcom goes but you'd think they would've at least chosen to not kill the series' entire momentum in japan just so westerners could catch up (not enough will play the subsequent games to justify the costs since Zero and Azure are still in chibi artstyle and CS1 and 2 are pretty outdated visually which is a normalfag repellant)
Pretty obvious trap and they still managed to fall into it. Now they have to commit to remaking everything
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>>550569476
all this dogshit fanbase wants is slop steel forever they never respecting the anthology nature of the series
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>>550569927
this happens with current jrpgs. Catering to the west has always been its downfall. atelier yumia with its combat system, dragon quest, final fantasy, and now trails
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>>550569963
There's nothing to respect about this tranny series thoughever
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>>550569927
>Remake everything up to Kai
>By the time you get there Sky 1st will be too old again and they'll have to reremake it again for the new new fans
>Repeat until time stops
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>>550570015
Its over....why does the w*st corrupt everything....
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>>550569702
Already looking forward to all the Tio ToT kino scenes in 3D, of course the auction partner is a lock.
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You're acting like the last mainline Trails game was released over a decade ago, when you weren't even meant to experience Kai until next month
Even then playing the Japanese release means it's only been a little over a year, so if Kai 2 releases in 2027 that's just a 3 year wait which is still rather generous

You're addicted to being outraged and this is just your brain's desperate plea for you to please give up a series you don't really like
You don't belong here and no one is interested in watching a manchild throw yet another doomer tantrum over his lack of emotional control

Feel free to silently move on
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>>550569963
vankid, nobody asked for cold steel remakes. people even were surprised that sky was getting remakes in the first place. Everybody wants kai 2. I swear falcom and kondo make the stupid choice and you blame it on a few cold steel fans in a general full of schizos. blame japan for not buying your games vankid
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>>550570095
>noooo you have to suck kondos ass no matter what he does like me
piss off faggot
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>>550569963
They should probably make stuff people actually want.
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>>550569854
The Vita was a flop, pedophile. I guess your retarded faggot brain doesn't know what a flop is.
Kondo also made sure to go out of his way to mention how different Calvard was to Cold Shit BECAUSE it wasn't on the Vita, right you retarded pedo cock sucker? Lol
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>>550570183
Refer to the final sentence of my original post
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holy vankid schizo lol. Seems like they are extra pissed off today which is understandable lol
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Maybe talking about gay CS fanfics with Reanafemanon WOULD be a step up for this general...
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vankid melties are outta control. How does cold steel create this much seethe out of someone jesus christ. I swear people hate cold steel more than like other arcs. Cold steel truly has some kinda special power over some people
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I just woke up and saw the news. So they didn't even announce TX2? Only SC remake? Holy shit wtf man. What is going on at Falcom?
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i'm gonna finally be caught up for the first time in the series with beyond the horizon's release in january(im still trudging through kuso 2 rn, act 2) and knowing that kai 2 is not even on falcoms mind kinda sucks. Calvard should have been only 3 entries.
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>>550570325
it's so obviously a flaseflag from the Skytroons because Kondo admitted Sky 1st sold less than Kai
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>>550570359
Talking about literally anything but Skykeks and their impotent hate for this series would be a step up
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>>550570428
He said at the last meeting they'd pull back. This is the result. So blame Kai.
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I'm pissed when you're going on a meltdown? Whatever helps you sleep at night, Vankidfag. Try not to watch too much CP before you pass out
And try not to kill yourself knowing your arc killed Kiseki. Do what>>550570095 said. Let it go. Focus on fixing your shit life which has become our laughing stock
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This all could have been avoided had they just taken a break between Reverie and Daybreak 1 to work on other projects, recover from Kiseki burnout and actually plan Calvard out.
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I mean I dont think cold steel is even that good there are many flaws but even then I dont care that its popular. I dont like solo leveling and its one of the most popular anime out there. But im not going to go around throwing melties and calling solo leveling fans slurs and throwing a temper tantrum because they like it.

vankids truly are the worst part of the fandom. No wonder why falcom didnt make kai 2 yet. the western fans for that are truly loud minorities
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>>550570428
yeah like if TX2 was coming out I would've at least understood but they're really just pushing out Sky 2 when it's just an asset reuse game with a script finalized 20 years ago. They're not even trying to work
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>>550570545
lil troon, that post was specifically aimed at you and your "sisters" here
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>>550570460
Should have been two tbqh
>>550570643
>They're not even trying to work
They working on projects that wont make them depressed. The easier projects.
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>>550570095
People are mad because Calvard has done nothing but blueball you for 3 games and now they want you to wait 3-5 years. No one was mad about the gap between CS2 and 3 because CS2 at least had some form of closure. It was the end of the original Class 7 and Civil war arc. Sure there were still things left to be resolved but CS2 had resolved enough that it was fine to wait. Kuro 2 and Kai haven't resolved shit. So yeah of course people are pissed off that they're being strung along so much. Theres only so much patience a person can be expected to have.
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>Not even throwing a single bone to Calvard fags
>Developers are tired
Calvard is the biggest failure in this series so far haha
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people who call people on that stuff are usually the ones who do that themselves. You might wanna be careful vankid/skytroon. Try blaming falcom for not making kai 2 instead of some boogeyman cs fans
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Man I love Cold Steel it's my favourite arc and Rean my favourite JRPG protag but WHY are you people talking about it?
This is the era of Calvard and Sky remakes, we Cold Steelers are just sitting back and relaxing after we had 5 great games back to back that we loved

Don't get me wrong I like Cold Steel discussion, even when it's people seething about it, but seriously the floor is all yours you don't need to appeal to us anymore we had our decade of games and are content

Talk about Sky 2nd and Kai or whatever lol let Cold Steel and Rean rest this is a really REALLY weird obsession over something that was ended over 5 years ago and that you purportedly "hate"
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will we even get a new arc/region after kai 2 or is falcom just lazy out of their fucking minds to even be bothered? this feels like the mining canary bwos
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>>550570095
2027 will be xanadu
Kai 2 is 2028 the earliest
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why are reankeks having a melty? none of this has anything to do with them but they cant stand not being the center of attention for 5 minutes
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vankid having a super extra melty today. I told you guys todays shareholder news would freak the fuck out of him. I guess calvard selling less by admission of falcom instead of cold steel really fucked his mind
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>gay schizo pedophile calling ANYONE but himself the worst part of the fanbase
wew lad
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>>550570884
2028 for a game that'll probably be another asset flip is hilarious. They really dont give a shit.
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Kondo sais that they need to increase to 100 employees to meet the demands of two games a year. But like.... Kondo said he wanted to do this years ago. Why are they only going to start hiring next year instead of spending the last 2 years doing it?
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>>550570734
nta I dont think calvard could have been two. The scale is much bigger when it comes to lore and septerion. I know crossbell is praised but its finale and antagonists was rushed as shit. But yea calvard doesnt need 4 games 3 would suffice imo
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...you fucking retards do not deserve this miracle of the universe. Fight your schizo wars all day, but the fact remains that SHE FUCKING WON and so did I, haha. More Bestelle for me.
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>>550571096
i played this game 8 years ago i don't care about a 60 dollar hd graphics dlc
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>>550570884
nta but they mentioned they are aware the news of only doing Sky 2nd may seem lackluster but it's on purpose because they want to make the 45th year celebration next year massive which likely means TX2 AND Kai 2
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>>550571040
But we've barely gotten either of those in 3 games.
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>>550570785
CS haters and malders have been seething ever since people have been liking reverie and rean since it came to the west.
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>>550571139
>AND
Only one of those is getting released then. Take a guess which one they'll release.
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>>550571139
falcom wont have the ability to release 2 full games for years
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>>550571158
if they had properly planned for 3 games then yest they can. Daybreak 2 was not planned

>>550571139
when is 45th anniversary?
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>>550571096
Even though sky remakes will help surge the current numbers up, the delay in the main entries will kill the series.

If Kondo wanted a surge of westerners and new players he should have started a new arc instead but ig that’s too much work for poor burned-out indie company falcom
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>>550571040
>I know crossbell is praised but its finale and antagonists was rushed as shit.
I am probably one of the lone detractors against azure, I think that game has abysmal writing outside of the trade conference, intermission, and jailbreak. It's to the point I think CS1-2 are actually better but not by a significant amount because they have their own problems (CS2 especially)
Zero is okay but a bit boring and predictable, its still mostly a serviceable and consistent game.

If Azure ever got remade I assure you more people would see how fucking stupid its writing becomes after the 2nd half of the game. I have no idea why Azure even got half the praise it does outside of its gameplay and bosses which are both better than Zero.
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>>550571329
2027, I shouldn't have said next year technically lol my mind is already over 2025 my bad
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>>550570910
Because Kondo confirmed what I told them last thread: their arc which lost nearly half of the day 1 fanbase is killing the series and the remake is an effort to win them back.
They cannot stand that Rean and CS live in infamy despite selling better than Sky and Calvard. They cannot stand Crossbell is equally successful while being way more popular. Reanshits are just Cold Shit fans. That's why every girl has to be in love with Rean, why every game should include Rean, why every character should ask where Rean is when not on screen, etc
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vankids dont realize that rean had just the same amount of screen time as kevin in kai and van got the most screentime.
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>>550571329
There was no reason to not put everything into Kai. They deliberately decided to make more. They deserve the flops they're getting.
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>>550571441
what are you talking about people have been shitting on azure for years now
the azure is "le goat jrpg" myth died when it was localized
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>>550571441
games that arent translated for a while get praised by the bilinguals in the west and the super fans going thru lengths to play it. Crossbell is the most hyped arc in the west. I liked it but it is overrated as hell.
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>>550571621
I hate Falcoms woe is me shit. Oh you're burnt out? Really? Maybe its because you needlessly drag everything out instead of actually telling a coherent story. Maybe then people wouldnt be mad at your games and they would like them and you wouldn't get depressed about it. But yeah poor you poor Falcom devs who consciously made all of these decisions.
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>>550571621
I mean I guess its possible theoretically. They would need 3 years instead of 2 years for kai. They would need to get rid of routes and grim garten. I guess its possible. It be a rushed finale if you dont mind that.
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>>550571757
Yeah. Its entirely self inflicted.
>>550571823
It wouldn't be rushed if they just fucking planned out what they're doing.
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>>550571340
I have not finished even chapter 1 of DB but half of you talk like CS is the worst and I'd agree it is the worst arc of the series to me but still perfectly serviceable and mostly acceptable with good moments and nice characters. And the half acts like Daybreak 2 - Horizon are warcrimes. I still don't really get if the issue is the shareholders are pissed at sales or that fan reception isn't good. So why would continuing an arc that is probably over-hated but that is factually financially weaker kill the series?

Not to pick too much of a side, but if I was a Falcom investor my redflags would have been the decline in day 1 sales following CS2. Raising a stink about it seems too little too late. But what do I know, I barely got into Trails in 2023.
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>>550558214
So happy my girl won!
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how mad are newfags gonna be when they boot up sky 2nd and realize 90% of the game is just reused maps from the first game
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Falcom going bankrupt would unironically be the best news regarding this garbage company, they'd finally stop making excuses on why are they wasting their lives away on Shitseki and people would be glad that they don't have to listen to weirdos gassing up a worthless series that's practically impossible to get into nowadays
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>>550572053
No one had issues the first time so...
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>>550572053
not as mad as Falcom doing it the 3rd time.
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>>550571943
Too sleepy.
Meant to say
>Why would NOT continuing an arc...
>my redflags would have been RAISED SEEING the decline...
>Raising a stink about it IN DAYBREAK...
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>>550571943
the more you hated cold steel the more you will like calvard since it does things differently with its main characters and cast members personality. And they got rid of the harem if you didnt like that. theres more character deaths like the reporter dude dingo whose vans friend dies so a named character gets killed unlike cs4
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Considering how the gap between Kai 1 and 2 is bigger than the one between CS2 and 3, surely this means no asset or animation will be reused.
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>>550572427
Lmao. You will wait 4 years for an asset flip of a 2021 game and you'll call it KINOOOOO
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>>550572427
Altairbros... our time is soon...
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>>550572482
we will get an azure remake before kai 2
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>>550572427
van and co will probably visit different loops to fight the remnants since thats how they are "teleporting". So we might see a different langport from the past or risettes loop when ishmelga won or where future feri is from
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>>550571943
If I had to guess why shareholders are pissed now and not then is because:
>current arc nearing the size of the previous one despite not selling as well
>game dev costs are higher now making development more expensive
>bad reception
>Kondo saying kiseki is "niche again" implying loss of popularity
Shareholders should maybe get mad at Kondo and the management...
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>Wait 5 years for Kai 2
>It's been so long they waste the first half of the entire game reintroducing every character and plot point one by one
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>>550571943
The reason I was saying it will kill the series is as you say anon, the daybreak games are financially worse off no matter your opinion on them(I like db1 and cold steel the most). So the issue is: we’re trying to get all these new players and revitalized interest in the series, but as soon as kai continues after a sky 2nd/3rd remake, where do these new players go? To Kai 2? They certainly will not be playing the chibi crossbell games after experiencing the modernized sky games, so this whole effort ends up hurting the new fans and the current who want a new main entry. If a new arc was started instead, that would give new/returning fans a solid jumping in point
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>>550571640
>what are you talking about people have been shitting on azure for years now
>the azure is "le goat jrpg" myth died when it was localized
I wasn't aware of how much people (rightfully) shat on the game
>>550571714
That would make sense, but I think even with jank translation something like a train derailment that kills fucking nobody would have anyone go "wtf how?"
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>>550572597
yea but vankid said that cold steel got even less sales and a bigger drop though? So why werent shareholders mad back then if vankid was right about cold steel having the biggest drop in sales? according to you calvard isnt selling well but vankid said cold steel is the worst selling so which is it?
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>>550572482
Its fucking over man. We're definitely not seeing it now that they're saying expense is an issue.
>>550572671
Honestly just do what other series do and bundle games together. They did that for CS in Japan but no where else. A remake (even though I liked it) wasn't super necessary.
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>>550572359
I didn't hate Cold Steel, though. I just think the first two games have a lot issues, I think the curse and Musse being a genius were bordering laughably bad plot points and that the games' writing was incredibly self indulgent. You could trim so much fat from every single game. I did not find a single good reason for why this arc is so long. It could have told the story it wanted to tell in half the time.

I still enjoyed it. Not my favorite, don't really see eye to eye with people who think it is the best arc, but I do think it is slightly overhated. I can appreciate its grandeur even if I think it fumbled on execution a lot. But again, no arc is perfect. Sky and Crossbell also fumbled the execution of some stuff.
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>>550572671
dont say you like cold steel, here the vankids and skytroons will blame you for everything wrong with falcom and the vankids lives
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>>550572671
The series has no future if the mainline games suck ass. Whats the point if attracting new fans is the word of mouth is just "The series is terrible just play Sky and quit"? Trying their best to keep the mainline series of a good quality should be in their best interest because it makes people want to buy EVERY game in the series. You can sell people 20 games if all people hear from.others is how dogshit the series became after game 7 or whatever. But Falcom never understood that.
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>>550572853
I think people who call it the best arc also includes reverie. You have to remember reverie explains a lot of stuff that happened in cs4 and finishes a good chunk of character arcs from cold steel characters like rean and the ironbloods. Calling reverie cs5 isnt farfetched it makes sense
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trails should be the poster child of why long running series suck ass
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at least you're getting remakes so you have a Trails game every year
we OG niggas had to wait years between releases and at most we got shit like Nayuta or TX
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>>550572981
The issue is the creator of the series literally stopped caring about it. We need an autist in control like Nomura or something.
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>>550572718
So is being an illiterate fuck part and parcel of being a gay pedophile. I never said Cold Steel sold less than Calvard.
I said it lost 90k day 1 players from CS2 to Hajimari. And more than 100k from CS2 to Kuro 1. Kuro 2 to Kai lost roughly 9k players. Cold Steel alienated 10 times that amount.
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>>550572631
kai already has the most insufferable chapter 1 because of this
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>>550573080
Nomura was in charge for KH3, and that game singlehandedly killed long term interest in the KH IP.
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>>550573138
KH had a good run. And he was distracted by FF until Square raped that project.
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Where does the newfag pandering end? Are they gonna stop the next arc half way through too to make another new starting point?
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>>550573080
>>550573138
Nomura is autist but that autism is for versus XIII, not KH.
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It's an investors meeting not a fucking FFXIV FanFest lmao did you retards expect Kondo to come out dressed as Van and shadowdrop Kai 2?
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>>550572853
5 games of cold steel is a lot. But hajimari ended it on a good note. People here hate cold steel but the west liked hajimari and thought it was a good ending to reans arc
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everyone from liberl will return in kai 2 so kondo can say it's a good game to play after 2nd
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>>550573138
KH3 was a harbinger of what will happen to Kiseki you can already see the signs
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>>550572975
I did not care much for Reverie or the Ironbloods and I do think it is mostly a CS game. It is 85% CS and 15% Crossbell to me, if I had to quantify.
And it's funny because seeing the praise Reverie got is what made me want to try the series in the first place.
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>>550573215
He just adds it to KH kek.
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>>550573239
Um yes he owes me kai 2
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>>550573239
I already knew Kai 2 wasn't next year. But TX2 not being next year means its highly likely Kai 2 just gets pushed off even further.
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>>550573239
I wanted xanadu and sky. I got half of what I wanted.
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>>550573239
that would've been based THOUGH???
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>>550573297
a lot of the liking of later half of cs depends on if you like the thematic shit the curse conveys or osborne, ironbloods, and rean. Thats why its a polarizing arc.

I think cs4 didnt explain its themes and points well. Reverie at least had better writing and explained its themes better even if it was a good game or not. The writing was clearer and better in reverie. And it made stuff like the normal ending of cs4 and osbornes plan make more sense
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why the tranny doomposting exactly?
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>>550573241
>good note
Eh...
I think the new crew handled the Crossbell cast rather poorly. I did not like, want or need a Rufus redemption arc even if he gets a lovely little and insightful convo with Lapis. I truly think it is character assassination to not only have Duvalie job to Rufus, but to have her assist him after what he did to Lianne. Especially if the relationship is now a gag where she is obsessed with beating him or something.

The best thing Reverie did to me was find a believable way to end Rean's martyr tendencies, but really that's the main thing. Some Daydreams were nice, like the Schera and Olivier one.
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we gonna get crossbell remakes for sure. crossbell is kondos baby, he wants to see that done before he is old and dusted
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>Calvard arc started at 2021
>Over 5 year long arc with no end in sight
Good god
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>>550573396
>Kai 2 just gets pushed off even further.
That's kinda unbelievable. It might not even be the actual end too.
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>>550573679
trying to distract from hard confirmation that Sky 1st flopped
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So basically the series is dying because the Vita players never came back for CS3
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>>550573704
the rean thing you mentioned is one of the things its praised for. Also a lot of people like the picnic squad. And yea the only thing in lloyd route i liked was lloyd explaining why he did what he did to the citizens when he was talking about why he didnt sacrifice kea. Other than that lloyd route and the whole illya mask thing wasnt that interesting
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>>550573779
>kondo promised us before kuro 1 that the arc wasnt going to be as bloated
>not only does it have the same.amount of games they take even longer to come out and are even more bloated
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So Reanasis how about those fanfics
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>>550573817
what does the (is that true)? supposed to mean for describing selling well in north america?
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>>550573654
I disagree. I think CS4 did a fine enough job. I felt all Reverie really did was triple down (at that point I guess) on how much Rean and Osborne parallel each other and sort of whitewash what Osborne did and sort of imply Osborne was essentially a friendless Rean.
Different strokes. Anyways, good night. Be kind to each other, schizos.
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>>550573926
calvard is 4 games. Cold steel is 5 games. Therefore calvard is still shorter than cs
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>>550573926
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Sky 1st did what Calvard was designed to do but failed at: attracting more western players. This is an objective fact and why Calvard is on hiatus.
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>>550574097
For now lol.
>kuro final chapter
Joke of a series.
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why are we doomposting again?
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>>550574227
Source on Calvard being meant to attract more Western players?
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>>550574000
The first bit is an investor's question
the -> is Kondo's answer and the () if just the poster adding his thoughts, in this case wondering if Kondo just lied
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melkor the vankid whose pissed off that cold steel sells more and than falcom is making sky remake over kai 2 because calvard is selling less and falcom are uninspired by the arc
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>>550574227
Yea but it sacrificed Japan. They no way fag'd both....
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>>550574294
im not a shareholder i dont care what their stock price is
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Will Sky 2nd have an MTL translation too? Kondo should be made aware of that though he probably doesn't care
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>>550574335
I assume sky the first got more sales than cold steel 4 if we base it off of steam. so theres a good chance its the most successful trails game in the west
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>>550574227
It didn't attract shit, all the fags in the w*st who praised Sky 1st are the exact same manchildren who glazed every single Trails game before it
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>make heavily marketed Shizuna MC of Calvard
>Van and Agnes are her sidekicks
>Rean comes in as rival and potential love triangle or quadruple
It was so easy to save sales...
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>>550574449
It will, he knows, he doesn't mind.
How do I figure? The AI bit the revealed.
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>>550574590
Not a single person in this world genuinely cares about Shizuna as a character
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>Even AI can't give Falcom ideas for Kai 2
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>>550574535
>>550574641
Vankid is in melty mode lmao
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Are they really using ai
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>>550574743
everyone with a job in 2025 uses AI as a copilot
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Calvard was just THAT badly thought out kek
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>>550574732
Vankids love Sky because their personality revolves around glazing everything but Cold Steel though
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>>550574743
for a long time
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>>550574743
Some people are suspecting that acctil(the localizers for sky the first) used AI to translate then did human editing afterwards. So thats why a few translations mess up the context. Its a preference thing though. I still prefer it to NISA daybreak 1 and 2 those guys intentionally mistranslate stuff for fanfiction or because its too "plain" in english.
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>>550574834
You're not fooling anyone, you were seething at Sky 1st for "derailing" the series for months
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>>550574909
why do you only single out db1 and 2 when cs3 4 and reverie were full of cringe fanfic
someone post the old fart thing from reverie
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Something deeply funny about Rean haters spending a decade shitposting about Rean and telling themselves the next arc would save Kiseki and bury Rean

And then Calvard comes out
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>>550574590
Nadia should've been the MC. Literally the only good thing about Kuso 2.
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>>550574801
I hate windows 11
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There is nothing wrong with Van as protagonist, at least it was not Aaron like leakerkek believed.
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>>550574998
those were bad too dont get me wrong. Im just comparing sky the first to the other recent localizations. I assume anon already played cs3, cs4 and reverie. Plus cs3 and cs4 had far less fanfic than reverie thru daybreak 2. Hatsuu being a lead localizer makes a huge difference in the quantity of fanfiction
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Its incredible how this pedophile Vankidfag goes out of his way to remind us on a daily basis he is the most pathetic poster on this thread. Maybe even this board.
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>>550558214
Good job Estelle
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>>550574946
Vankid, it's not nice trying to gaslight people into believing things like Vankids hating Sky 1st
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Vankid it's okay you don't have to be angry anymore...
I'm sure GabeN will let you purchase Sky 1st with a nice 25% discount later today
You don't have to spend another 4 months pretending it's a bad game just because you couldn't afford it full price
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>>550558723
I will write something about this when I'm done with work today. I finally feel inspired.
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lets be real they could take 10 years to make kai 2 and it would still suck ass because the foundation it has to build on is just rotten
just shit it out already and then take a break and properly plan out a good finale and we'll all just accept that calvard was a failed experiment that didnt really accomplish much
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vankid still seething that japan hates calvard and not cold steel? So cold steel didnt uninspire falcom? It was calvard instead? But vankids said that cold steel dropped soooo many players so falcom must have felt like not doing cold steel right??? But nope calvard was the drop in sales that went below falcoms expectations. Vankid is malding that his favorite arc is less liked than cold steel
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The more they delay Kai 2 the harder of a sell it will be. Old fans increasingly get fed up with Falcom's shoddy treatment or they just get older and forget the series. Probably only 1% of new fans are seriously going to sit through all 13 of the other games in the next 2 or 3 years. Most of them will lose interest before they get to Kai. So when it finally comes out in 2028... who's going to be left to care? Then how are they going to sell a final arc afterwards when no one is left? Falcom really didn't think this through.
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>>550575764
floofy cares. all the zoomers and westerners that like calvard and want it to be less japanese will wait for kai 2
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2bh i feel like they need to do more to flesh the game out in sc remake instead of just making it a 1:1 sc has a criminal lack of new areas and there need to be more high effort side quests and some minigames
fc remake was way too barebones
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I feel bad for you guys so I'm gonna throw you a bone:
There are no plans for Kai 2, Kai is internally thought of as the "end" of Kiseki and the heroes failed
The remakes are a soft reboot/sequel that will be framed as the Golden Loop, this lets the team "take a break" as they just remake games that already exist
There's already a few hints of this in Sky 1st but Sky 2nd will be a bit more obvious with it as most people didn't catch said hints
Sky 3rd won't exist which is when the Golden Loop will be first made apparent, it will instead be a simplified route running between chapters of the Zero remake, think Tokyo Xanadu's structure
The Broken Loop will be seen as just a neat prequel new players can go back and experience if they want to but not necessary to enjoy Golden Loop
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>>550570095
It is rather impressive. The sheer confidence in these mentally ill ramblings and flawless name-calling. It's sad how bad /fg/ has it with schizos.
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at this point just turn the kiseki finale into a book. i don't think that the kiseki continuation can justify extended budgets to create it in a way remaining fans expect. sales aren't there and production costs are rising, makes no sense. the only saving grace could be legacy sales going forward but i dunno, they aren't like capcom with such an evergreen backlog
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>>550576040
Hard to make a book when they don't have any good writers.
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Kai 2 to end of the series will be known as Kiseki's "disc 2"
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>Dies and takes half your domestics playerbase with it
>Sales needs overseas market to make up the loss
>Domestic userbase never recovers in 10 years and forced the series into Remake slop hell

Haha…what a fitting end to our legend of heroes….
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If they genuinely have no ideas then just end the series already and move onto something new. There's no point in continuing it
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are they ever gonna put kai 1 on switch in japan kek
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>>550576040
You still need to have competent writers to have a satisfying book.
Guess what Falcom doesn't have.
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>>550576040
Trailsfags can't read and they refuse to consume any type of media that isn't Trails slop so that would be a massive failure
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One Piece might actually end before Kiseki at this rate
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kai 2 was cancelled i'm afraid
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>>550558672
Kevin being absent is hilarious. Man I hate Kevin. Why does everyone like ntr man so much? Being followed around by some wanna be bvll is gross.
>>550558370
You didn't post the sc version I made with the fog haha.
>>550558764
Mussetelle.
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>>550558951
I don't get how AI would help at all. Is their problem really that they don't know how to do writing? If it's how to plan the story the ai can't help with that
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>>550578051
wont stop them from trying haha
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trails is just gonna die before it gets an ending
we all followed this shit for nothing
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>>550578636
reverie was the real ending. everything since is just a bad dream... haha
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Seems like Trails is basically just dead in Japan
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Calvard killed kiseki and demoralized the devs
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developing without a director must be weird as hell. projects without proper direction are confusing and draining. no wonder they don't want to touch that
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>>550579632
kuro 2 and kai didnt have director. sky remake did
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>>550579730
kek holy shit goddamn they really hate calvard huh
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>>550579730
yes, exactly
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Can't wait to play the new AI generates Falcom slop
10 years from now Falcom will just be Kondo, Singa and a computer
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>>550579730
Oh it shows, Falcom. It shows.
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>>550580075
unisuga will still be doing web design instead of making music
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>>550579730
a director would have said "get rid of these shitty gartens"
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>>550580304
im pretty sure garten is locked in so even after kusano comes back for kai 2 it will still be there. Falcom doesnt want to waste their assets saved from reverie
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>>550580492
they could at least have the decency to make them as fun as the corridor. i actually ran through the corridor multiple times because i liked it. though part of it is also the different gameplay compared to cs, i just enjoyed mage nuking way more back then. kuro battle system feels tedious, so encounters are more annoying
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cunny renne looks cute at least but honestly i dont really look forward to sitting through the first half of sc again
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ADOL IS THE BEST FALCOM PROTAGONIST
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Honestly, the way Kiseki was set up as a whole was a mistake.
They never should have gone for the giant interconnected world thing. They should've taken a cue from Atelier and have like 3, maybe 4 games at most all set in separate worlds with the orbment system being the thing that connects the games, like the alchemy/crafting system in Atelier. That would've solved numerous issues people have like character bloat, all the filler, starting points for new players, etc.
Now Kiseki is stuck in this hell and it looks like Falcom has no idea what to do with the series anymore.
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Is van officially after the news the worst mc of kiseki?
he is the only one that killed its own saga from being produced
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No that would Kevin, he kills everything he touches
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Isn’t there really any chance of them announcing another for 2026 next year?
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List of things that will happen before Kai 2 releases
>GTA 6 release
>One Piece will end
>Todd will actually showcase TES VI gameplay
>FGO will end its current main story chapter
>Most people here will be older than Van
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What did Kondo mean by this
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>>550581610
i was 25 when kuro started haha...
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>>550581610
HL3, KH4, Persona 6... etc
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>>550581610
Dog, the final FGO chapter is this year
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i actually think SC remake will be delayed next year too. it's just how videogames are now
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>>550582035
sc remake will barely take any time or effort to make
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>>550582024
It's OVER then
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>>550581421
no. they said they're doing two games next year in the financial report. suddenly announcing a third title would mean they were withholding critical information from shareholders in the yearly report and there would be a legal shitstorm
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I think I just like the idea of Trails more than i actually like Trails. I like that the story and world continues on after the game is over, I like some of the ideas of the worldbuilding, I like characters from different games interacting. But once I set that aside and try to look at it objectively the execution is almost universally terrible.
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There's always next year's investor's meeting Vanbros
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So, now that Kondo says they are fed up with Kiseki's mainline, does this mean Calvard never had any soul in the first place? And all of the upcoming Kiseki like Kai 2 and the final arc will be cold industrial shit only filling specifications?
I kind of saw it coming but it's still somewhat sad and insulting to follow a series so long only for the dev to wrap it up because they don't like it anymore.
This was really a shitty thing to say as PR
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love renny
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>>550583686
ironic coming from a soulless AI slop bitchass lmao that's not how tits work btw
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>>550583686
legit how are we supposed to be hyped for more when they admit they dont care about it kek
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>>550583686
soon kondo will retire and hopefully someone less retarded will take his place
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>>550583686
First arc that Kondo had to publicly apologize for
First arc to be both a commercial and cultural failure
First arc where even the devs are fatigued by it and BEGGING for a break

Holy FUCKING shit Calvard is irredeemable trash lmao
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>>550583686
Huh Calvard? Trails end at Reverie.
>>550583723
We know Bestelle
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>Next Year will mark Falcom's 45th anniversary. I think many people will find today's announcement are bit underwhelming, however since we are aiming to a big mark for the 45th Anni., please wait for more information on new releases and such.
Even Kondom knows remakeslop is underwhelming lmao
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Perhaps I was too harsh on Rean
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>>550584802
its the best game after all
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>>550584771
>just one more year bro trust us!
why did i ever get into this shitty company
how about you do something interesting NOW instead of constantly making promises
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>>550559308
>>550559994
Beta Joshua.
>>550568681
This would be exceedingly simple to solve but they won't do it. Just hire someone to fix the writing. Even I could do so. Sky was also originally created as a fan inspired game similar to the ghagarve trilogy
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>>550584882
Sky 2nd is interesting
you are the one choosing to self-alienate yourself
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>>550584373
>Trails end at Azure
ftfy
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>>550585118
no a remake of a 20 year old.game is not interesting
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>>550584196
That's Cold Steel though, Calvard is them trying to placate Oldfags while also Attracting Wokefags and it failed. Kondo was forced to apologize because the damage can no longer be hidden.
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>>550585438
Link Kondo's public apology for Cold Steel
Oh wait he never had to apologize
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>>550585363
and shitty calvard game #4 is? how?
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>>550585363
experiencing Liberl in 3D is interesting, and the Liber Ark is gonna be real cool with a free camera
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>>550558212
>>550557940
what about Kai 2?
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>>550585501
He didn't because he think Calvard will return Trails to 100k W1 Sales after Cold Steel lose it but fumbled because Kuro2 & Kai are asset flips with padded shit and filler losing further 9k and Kondo was forced to apologize to shareholders now that he can longer hide it.
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>>550558214
What? I was asleep, did Estelle get another another new game?
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>>550585515
Nta but unseen new stuff will always be more interesting than old stuff everybody has already seen, regardless of how pretty the latter is dressed up
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>>550560952
It’s Estelle’s one last hurrah
Estelle will forever be stuck at B rank and fall into irrelevancy in the grand scale of the world after this
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>>550585926
so Calvard IS putrid shit
thanks for finally admitting it
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>>550586062
If she doesn't play a meaningful role in the supposed Leman arc then this series is actual dogshit
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>>550558214
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>>550586236
and Cold Steel is Cowshit. They are both shit anyway. Rean is Negative value to trails, falcom and JRPGs
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>>550586324
This is an anthology series. Estelle should only show up in the final Leman game.
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>>550586563
lol wrong Rean has the highest and second highest Trails entries under his belt and his other 3 games STILL rank far above every other entry except Crossbell
seethe some more but reality is reality and your anger won't change facts
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Lets make sky
oh wait its to big -> sky 1 and 2
lets do erebonia now
we better end skiy first -> sky3
lets do erebonia now
we need a game in the middle
oh wait its to big -> zero and azure
lets do erebonia now
oh wait its to big -> cold steel 1 and 2
oh wait its to big -> cold steel 3 and 4
lets do calvard
we better end erebonia first -> reverie
lets make calvard
oh wait its to big -> kuro 1 and 2

og planned games sky two cs games and 1 kuro game
reality many games

Kondo need to plan the games better before doing anything
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>Sky's remake will bring newcomers! I swear!
>Only 14% of people who played the remake are new players, the 86% left are people who already played the series
So, if I'm getting this right... Falcom choose to remake FC and SC before Kai 2... for those 14-15% of new players?
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>>550586905
Grim that even Kondo has given up on anyone giving a shit about Daybreak rofl
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>>550586905
copium but maybe he's just talking about japan.
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>>550586905
kondo bro those people wont come back because kuro 2 and kai are garbage
your short term thinking ruined any chance of coming back. even if you make kai 2 good kuro 2 and kai are ass and no one is gonna want to play them.
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>>550586876
Cow kino
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Why do people seriously keep thinking "surely this will be the year Falcom releases two new games"
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>>550587148
Because people still listen to Kondo
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>>550586702
Imagine losing 90k sales and losing the goodwill that Sky and Crossbell earned. Calvard could even not recover from the damage that Cold Steel caused to the franchise. Even Pandering to Reanfags in Kai didn't save it.
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The only way to save Kiseki is by publicly admitting the Calvard arc was mismanaged and failed and subsequently restarting it
Offer a deep discount to anyone that owns the games and just have a concise 2 game long arc with all the fat trimmed out
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I don't even want remakes but Ragecuck getting his ass blown out over and over again is amusing
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Calvard will never have the soul that Erebonia has
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>>550587278
>*The only way to save Kiseki is by publicly admitting the Erebonia and Calvard arcs was mismanaged and failed and subsequently restarting it. Offer a deep discount to anyone that owns the games and just have a concise 2 game long arc with all the fat trimmed out
There. Fixed it for you
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>>550586905
Kondo is just completelty detached from the fanbase he has no idea why their games arent connecting to people anymore
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>>550587241
Imagine skyrocketing to the top so hard that Rean can afford to lose 90k sales and STILL sell leagues better than any Calvard title lol holy fucking shit what an insane moggery
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They’re not going to skip third remake are they?
Seems like a bad idea to skip that one to go remake Crossbell but what do I know
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>>550558672
To be fair, the key art that people associate with Sky SC that has all the cast on the Steam page is not the actual cover that was used for the game's boxart. That was this
https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/1203938-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-sc-psp-full-cover.jpg

The Steam image was just a really cool looking promo image

I also like 2nd Chapter's boxart a lot more than the EVO one
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>>550587076
anyone who's played 10+ games in this series is invested and will play whatever slop falcom releases. the only people they potentially lose in kuro 2 / kai are newfags who started with kuro 1.
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>>550587465
Cold Steel is over though so I'm not sure why you feel the need to bring up an arc that has nothing to do with the issue at hand
Beside the fact that it is a widely beloved arc and Reverie receives nothing but high praises and is deemed a good stopped point and a neat thematic finale for the series
Good to see you still seething about a saga that ended 5 years ago thought lol :3
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>>550558991
I legitimately don't know why the hell they announced that when they very clearly had no indication they were in active development for it. If they had the capability to put out more than one game a year, I would get it but they don't
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I’m going to be in my fucking 50s by the time Kiseki is finished at the rate falcom is making these games
Guess I’ll get my kids to play them in a decades time
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>>550587514
They are not
Osborne is in 3rd so it would be the perfect chance to insert Rean flashback in 3rd remake
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>>550587635
it was a rogue agent pushing the art out to drum up interest and force Kondo to commit to the project
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>>550559519
Daybreak II' and why that game even exists at all should have been enough of a clue that there was serious issues going down with planning Calvard
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>>550560201
>Why would the SC remake even take so long
A year is long?

>>550560573
If they seriously make a Sky 3rd/Reverie type game for Calvard I'm going to fucking lose it. It's funny how with Kuro II I figured that they obviously would but now I'm horrified at the idea of this being 5 games
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>/fg/ just repeating to themselves some inane headcanon to pretend it's true
jesus christ all it took was having to wait more than a year for a new entry for you lot to become genuinely insane
the plot can literally go anywhere they want lol they aren't stuck at all they are the freest they've ever been in fact
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>>550587489
What a pathetic arc and mc for relying on Sky and Crossbell's popularity to sell their games. Cry more Vankidfag.
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>>550586062
Actually, I think there is a non-zero chance they're going to put Estelle and Joshua in Kai 2

>>550586905
Considering that Kai did not really move the needle for sales, that's actually not that bad. Remember we're talking about a niche of a niche JRPG here
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>>550587951
>the plot can literally go anywhere they want lol they aren't stuck at all they are the freest they've ever been in fact
Anon, the "they are stuck/they are burned out" is coming directly from the studio. I mean they didn't directly say they don't know where to go but it is pretty clear they have an issue with actually planning out this arc
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>>550587864
>A year is long?
You have to see this from the prism of a bunch of unemployed young adults binging the entire series in the span of a year or so and now going through genuine withdrawals when they finally catch up and have to experience waiting for a new Trails entry for the first time in their lives

Normal studios take 5 to 6 years between titles, yet these people think taking 3 years to develop Kai 2 means Kondo has given up on the series and hates them personally

But again, you can see from their overly emotional outbursts that they are going through withdrawal and in a lot of distress so don't take it too personally and just pity them
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>>550584802
I don't criticize Rean. I criticize the writing around him. Like I don't think he himself is a bad character compared to say the light novel protagoonists he is based on.
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eh, what's another year right guys?
Personafags wait like 6 years for a new game, Rancebros wait decades for translations, Xcomfags don't get any games anymore.
Just sit back, relax and wait for next year. Your game will come.
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>>550587613
>Cold Steel is over though so I'm not sure why you feel the need to bring up an arc that has nothing to do with the issue at hand
A lot of the issues that plagues this arc started with CS
>Beside the fact that it is a widely beloved arc and Reverie receives nothing but high praises and is deemed a good stopped point and a neat thematic finale for the series
Source?
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>>550588415
A lot of the issues that plagues this arc started with Sky
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>>550588374
It's a big ask for this fanbase since we've been used to a new entry every 1-2 years bud
>Personafags wait like 6 years for a new game
About to be 10 years next year
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I just beat kuro 2 and can someone tell me where the vtuber jokes come from? Is that in Kai?
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you'll be the first to Pog out the moment the Kai 2 trailer drops and scream
>"WE ARE SO BACK"
so just spare us the performative melty and go play something else for a year, you aren't needed here
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>>550588709
feel free to fuck off back to r/falcom at any time queer
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>>550588696
New enforcer in kai is basically a vtuber
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>>550588818
hit a nerve, outrage diva?
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>>550588374
personafags get an entirely new game every time they wait
we get asset flips, theres no reason we need to wait so long
either make asset flip games quickly or take 6 years to make fully fleshed out unique games dont make us wait 6 years for an asset flip
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>>550588549
rising vidya costs have finally caught up with Falcom, spamming games is not as lucrative as it used to be.
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>Sky 2nd remake ending credit end
>this song suddenly plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFqaTgjBbE
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>>550588245
>yet these people think taking 3 years to develop Kai 2 means Kondo has given up on the series and hates them personally

Yeah except those games have brand-new assets, environments, gameplay etc. Kai 2 will be another lazy asset flip which will make the 3-4 year wait piss a lot of people off when they play it.
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>>550588972
Would unironically pog out
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>>550588924
Persona games are not worth the wait. And P3 demake was an asset flip of P5.
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>>550589067
lol wrong Yakuza gets away with reusing Kamurocho and no one endlessly moans about "lazy asset flip" you're just another performative loser throwing a forced tantrum
enjoy sitting there moaning for 2 more years until Kai 2 drops and you start scream "KINOOOOOOOOOOO" like the little bipolar fangirl you are
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>>550589067
This holy shit why do these shills refuse to understand this? The deal you make with Falcom is that you accept the asset flipping and corner cutting in exchange for regular releases. If you're waiting so long between sequels then why is there still so much asset flipping? When I wait 5 years for a new Final Fantasy or whatever game I am expecting an entirely new world, characters, story, gameplay systems etc from the previous game. Wait 5 years between Kai and Kai 2 and all you'll get is a new story.
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>>550589271
each yakuza game also has a complete story of its own and doesnt end half way through to sell you the 2nd half
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>>550589570
???
each Calvard game had a satisfying story on its own lol but Daybreak 1 introduced and solved Almata, and Daybreak 2 introduced and solved Zolga AND Gardenmaster
yeah of course neither of them are going to solve the overarching story of the entire series that's the point of having a long running series but you can't blame a singular game for the overarching story lol
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Can't wait to see my cute wife Josette again
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In Rolent while under a fake identity Josette introduces herself as Josette Haar

You might realize Haar is kind of a ridiculous last name, a silly gag based on the idea that she's a sky pirate
But that's just a distraction from the fact that the idiot used her real first name for her fake identity
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>>550588001
You know, you just made me realize something, the reason why the CS games feels that has much more direction than the Calvard is because a lot of it was just stuff that was set up by the Sky/Crossbell games. The civil war, Osborne, commoners vs nobles, Phantasmal Blaze; all this shit came from the first five games, all they had to do was follow up on it, in fact a lot of the flaw that came up in the arc was not doing that and just starting making shit up (Rean, the curse, the church being behind the nation's foundation, etc.) Meanwhile, all they set up about Calvard was immigration issues. Even Rocksmith was just your run of the mill politician, just doing his job with no greater purpose behind it unlike Osborne, wich is why they had to create Gramheart to begin with it.
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>>550590269
Yeah Falcom had no idea what Calvard looked like even as late as CS4. They're fucking retarded and they gave themselves nothing to work with.
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>>550590267
There's a lot of Josette's in the world.
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at this point a Kai 2 makes zero sense. only a start of a new arc where the resolution to kuro kinda happens inside of it may work
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>>550590595
Proof?
There's not a single instance of someone else being named Josette in all 13 Trails games to date
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>>550590606
pulling another Azure to Cold Steel would be based
Bonus point if Van fellate next arc's MC like Lloyd did Rean
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I know we’re dogging on Calvard but I really enjoyed the enforcers they used for Kuro 1 and 2
Harwood is such a magnificent bastard
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I'd like a Kai 2 but it subverts our expectations and instead features Anies as the MC being sent beyond time and becoming Aidios
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>>550590269
You mean those plotpoints that falcom failed to deliver because they shove rean into it. CS1 already ruined Osborne. CS2 ruined PB. CS3/4/Reverie i don't need to explain. They lose direction because they added Rean and Class VII into it (although this was already falcom's plan by Azure).
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>>550591061
we're all fatigued from your repetitive posts kys already you're clearly suffering
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Just make a console game for HER
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>>550591948
good gacha i play for she
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I love Tokyo Xanadu and want that sequel already
Maybe one day
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>>550591156
I'm just addressing the one of the main problems. Shoving Rean & Co. into an arc that is already loaded with Characters of Interest (Olivert, Osborne, Lechter etc.) and 4 other Characters that has a connection with Erebonia (Joshua, Josette, Mueller, Elie). That's already Big for a company like falcom. Character Bloat with Trend chasing antics is going to ruin a story. And they did it again in Kai by Shoving Rean, Swin and Nadia(+Kevin) into it cutting Van's screentime. How much disastrous Kai 2 would be if Estelle, Joshua and SSS joins the party
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>>550590812
That would be crazy but they already said the next game is "Van's last adventure"
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>>550590269
They essentially ran into the MCU Endgame issue. Hell CS4 was called End of Saga lol.
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pasty ass mf gone be 50 and still blame cold steel for everything lol
sky 1st shows people crave more trails and will willingly buy it en masse if it's good despite the previous release daybreak 2 being universally considered garbage
horizon is so far removed from cold steel and has both daybreak 1 and 2 to spread worth of mouth for it but sadly for you calvard itself is hot garbo so it will never sell
keep seething about rean tho I'm sure sky 2nd will destroy horizon sales too and that will totes be rean's fault haha
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The Calvard arc has so many problems. Calvard itself feels way too modern, very little lore and locations. Almost the entire cast is forgettable, seriously i feel like only Shizuna has a big fanbase. Compare this to how Cold steel and it's characters still lives rent free in peoples mind whether they love or hate it.
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Elliot alone has more charisma and character development than the entire ASO combined rofl
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Risette sexo
Anges sexo
Judith sexo
Elaine sexo
Shizuna sexo
Paulette sexo
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>>550594528
>Elliot
You could've said Crow or Fie or something, but no you had to go with the most boring character in the OC7
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https://vxtwitter.com/Umisuika/status/2001526978164539420/quotes
It doesn't matter how well Sky remakes sell or how many non-JP newfags it brings in, Falcom saying they are gonna start embracing the use AI is gonna drive all of them away KEK. This series unironically completely fucked LMAO
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>>550596357
wind bro
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>>550596405
My bad, I sometimes forget Gaius was even there
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>>550594528
Elliot? I think I heard that's a store in Erebonia haha
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>>550596716
>that’s all folks
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>REEEEEE I hate kiseki i hate calvard REEEEEEE

>REEEEEEE why isn't the next game in the arc and series i hate coming out sooner REEEEEEE

??????
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>>550586876
You can cuck Yufa's bf and romance her.
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Well, this is it for the Calvard arc isn't it? Kai/Horizon 2 is going to be put on the backburner indefinitely and become Falcom's Half-Life 3. We had a good run. It was fun while it lasted.
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Felt weird being in Ruan and seeing Gilbert appear
It was an oh yeah he first showed up here moment
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I will never forgive the faggots that lied about Rean cucking Joshua. That literally made me play past Sky. Now I'm stuck in the middle of Coldsneed with another bashful anime protagonist.
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>>550597875
Wait for CS4
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>What did ruin Trails for you?

me? That they did the same archetype for the main villian 4 straight in row? Staff wielding magelikes (Weissman, Gunther, Mariabell, CS2 Vita). It became so obvious that they change Vita's weapon to a fan even though the she's a witch.
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>>550588696
quatrina is the cutest vtuber
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>>550598332
Okay but vita is fucking hot and she’s named after my favorite handheld
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>>550598565
yeah if your playing for the goon. good for you.
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>>550598565
I'll never forgive sony for how they handled it
at least I can still use it for emulation
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kai 2 cancelled. next game after the remakes will be a new arc
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>>550599068
Good
>>550599823
How Bestelle
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>>550597875
>Rean cucking Joshua.
Huh?
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>>550596716
Why use a line that makes fun of Calvard?
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>>550600487
>Abend
holy foreshadowing KINOOOOOOOOOO
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>>550594151
Nobody craves more Trails, even with the remakeslop it remains unappealing to people
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>>550600487
>ABEND
>as in ABrupt ENDing
lol sky fc prophetised the calvard arc
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>>550600865
obv wrong since sky made a killing so much so that Falcom could afford to buy back some of its shares and increase its market value lol
you != the world at large, learn to be less narcissistic
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>>550600685
it just means evening in german
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>>550600865
not even half a day btw get FUCKED
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>All this retarded whining about "Cold Steel killed the series!!" "Calvard arc killed the series!!""
>When they state the fucking answer right fucking here
It's fucking Playstation-exclusivity that killed this series. If they went all-in on the Switch from day 1 instead of waiting only until now, we wouldn't be in this fucking situation to begin with. The writing should've been on the wall for them with how explosive the Switch was selling from day 1 and how JPs started giving up on Playstation due to Shitny cucking out to suckle the AAA Commieformia tranny cock. So thanks Shitny for killing yet another JP series while you chase after more troon-infested "cinematic experiences"
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>>550600148
He bought Reanspic delusions.
They are NOT taking well the fact that their arc almost killed Kiseki.
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>>550601749
Hey when's Kai 2 coming out?
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cope. get woke go broke BITCH
press s to spit on kondo
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>>550601879
damn brat....
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>>550601676
>Retarded ninceldrone
Those Switch 2 copies sure are selling like hotcakes lol
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>>550601676
so true sis, nisa couldn't keep up with the switch demand
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>>550601889
2027
Hey why did Cold Shit alienate so many people both in Japan and the West.
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>>550601676
Bullshit
This series was selling it’s absolute best with the vita
Cope and seethe all you want
Falcom almost died when they were PC devs
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>>550601879
why it becomes like this...
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>Yet another year for a censored remake
My interest in kiseki is at a all-time low
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>>550601676
This retard thinks tendies buy non-tendie games lmao
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>>550602473
>2027
Proof?
>Hey why did Cold Shit alienate so many people both in Japan and the West.
You tell me since it's your own made-up headcanon
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>>550602473
China at least seems to like it.
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Life is punishing Vankids so mercilessly and they STILL don't learn their lesson
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>>550602110
>>550602317
> If they went all-in on the Switch from day 1 instead of waiting only until now, we wouldn't be in this fucking situation to begin with.
I know reading is hard while being blinded from Shitny's cum all over your eyes but do try and read: IF THEY WENT ALL-IN ON SWITCH FROM DAY 1 INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL NOW WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH. Kiseki at it's core is a handheld series. They had the most sales when it was on handhelds and it was already evidenced when they lost half the sales going from CS2 to CS3 because of no Vita version. When Switch came out they should've been on it in a hearbeat and built up a fanbase immediately. But no Kondo was too retarded and stubbornly clung onto to Playstation-exclusivity despite the fact that Japan was beginning to reject Playstation especially when they started cucking out and went full censorshit-happy. By the time those blind retards finally started seeing the writing on the wall, the paltry "support" they gave with all the late ports did jack shit. And only fucking now are they actually doing Switch versions day 1, it's way too fucking late
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>>550602651
It's my headcanon that Cold Shit lost 90k day one players? Lol.
Also, you seem to be confusing "Vankids" with yourself, Vankidfag. I can guarantee no one ITT has a shittier life than you, a schizo pedophile.
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>>550603117
Nintendo fans don’t play non Nintendo games
They beg and plead for third party games but don’t actually play them
Go play with your fisher price toy and leave the adults alone
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>>550603161
Damn I embarrassed you so hard you're now trying to impose your weird vankid/vankidfag war on me despite me not mentioning either
Such is the fate of arguing with a Rean hater for more than 2 posts, you always default to your weird gay fantasies
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>>550603117
I play on PC sis I don't give a shit about consoles but it's funny to even argue Trails would sell fast on the Switch when we have a clear example it was NOT selling
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>>550603293
And Japanese players don't buy games on Playstation. Get it through your thick skulls
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>>550603117
3rd parties do not sell on Nintendo.
>loss of sales due to Vita
The Vita was a flop lol. This WAS a handheld only series because Falcom started out with quasi claymation and moved on to really ugly 3D.
You and every coping Reanspic would have a better cope if CS3 to Reverie saw stable day 1 sales, but people still checked out more and more with every subsequent game. The only way your retarded idea would make sense is if Nintendo bought Falcom. And even then they'd have a huge hurdle in investing people in a long-running series where you have to play everything that came before it. Kiseki's very nature is what makes it so volatile; it goes against good business sense to do what they have done. The bragging rights are not worth it.
The Xeno series had to be bailed out twice for them to sort of finally get it right.
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>>550603843
>t. chile that started gaming with Fortnite

don't try to speak history to your elders
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>>550603640
PS5] Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter (Nihon Falcom, 09/19/25) – 21,511 (New)
[NSW] Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter (Nihon Falcom, 09/19/25) – 21,453 (New)

Considering there are about 10 million switches sold in Japan and about 2 million ps5s by your logic this number should be much bigger for the switch
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>>550603413
>embarrassed you so hard
Nice headcanon. Also, no reply to losing 90k players lol. Concession accepted.
>>550603640
>I believe every single shitpost I see on /v/
So this is the power of tendies...
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>>550604171
As soon as you post proof of a 2027 Kai 2 release
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>>550603995
This would all be settled properly if we just knew digital sales instead of physical ones because most people buy things digitally anyways.
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>>550603995
>>550603843
>Sony niggers STILL refuse to read.
How much fucking cum did you faggots take holy shit. What part of by the time Falcom stopped being retards and started supporting the Switch it was way too late for them do you faggots not understand
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Falcom getting bought and absorbed into a bigger company really is the only hope they have left. The new Sony CEO said he wanted to return PS to its Japanese roots. Getting bought by Sony and giving Playstation a steady streamline of AA rpgslop seems like one of the few choices Falcom has. Idk who else would take a risk buying them.
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>>550604681
You’re objectively wrong
It’s simple as that
If the fabled Nintendo audience was interested, those 10 million switch sales would translate to sales for falcom
Fuck off
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>>550604681
Hey friend, take it easy
You're anonymous so your ego is not tied to these posts
You made a silly, easily disproved assertion and people here corrected it
But you can just... move on, you don't have to spend the rest of the day defending a flawed stance to protect your image you are anonymous
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>>550604681
Not as much cum and corporate Nintendo cock as you like fellating, clearly.
Let me spell it out to you again, mouth-breather:
3RD PARTIES DO NOT SELL ON NINTENDO
It doesn't matter if CS3 ditched the PS4 and went Switch only and it released in September of 2017 when the Switch had like 5 games: no one would have bought it because Odyssey was just around the corner. Falcom tapped into the Switch market when the thing has moved like 150M units and people are NOT buying Kiseki. People won't buy the thing on Switch unless they see the Nintendo logo on it because that is the audience Nintendo has.
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>post Sky trails is so bad, they put it in hiatus just to keep remaking Estelle's games
LMAO coldshitkeks and calvardkeks in shambles
Series died after Sky 3rd
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Kondo LITERALLY said he understands Sky 2nd is underwhelming for us but he's saving the big titles for the 45th anniversary
Somehow Skytroons are celebrating this, they are being used as cheap filler so they can polish TX2 and Kai 2 and they act smug about it
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>>550562115
That 2 is this but lamer
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>dude they're polishing future turds trust me!!
KEK
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>>550601096
False
>>550601408
Lmao i wouldn't gloat with such embarrassing low numbers but you do you
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Let's study this >>550605680 this post, friends

Notice the needless inclusion of Cold Steel just to fan the flames of arc wars?
Then the absurd exaggeration around Kai 2 taking 3 years to come out as if that's insane
And finally the subtle final adjustment of saying the series died after *Sky 3rd* while at no point making fun of Crossbell; only Cold Steel and Calvard

He flagrantly makes a falseflag post donning the Sky mask but still cannot bring himself to mention Crossbell AT ALL

This is a masterclass of how Crossfags operate, they sow discord and utilize deceit and subterfuge

They are incredibly pathetic ratpeople
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Ragecuck assole status?
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Sky and Crossbell?
Kino of the highest order.
Cold Steel and Calvard?
Embarrassing anime shit that killed the series.
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>>550606718
Gaping.
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>>550606389
>Lmao i wouldn't gloat with such embarrassing low numbers but you do you
This, but for Calvard
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>>550597794
Yea it's over for Calvard.
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>>550606851
Trvke
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>Crossbell and CS1-2 remake will be one trilogy with routes
>will use the Sky Remake engine
KONDOM MY BODY IS READY
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>>550606389
>False
https://www.marketscreener.com/news/nihon-falcom-corporation-announces-an-equity-buyback-for-600-000-shares-representing-5-84-for-884-ce7d51dedc8af02d

There's no recovery from this ownage, just move on lil bro
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Arc wars are so fucking gay
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Calvardanon im glad you're not here to witness this. You're in a better place now....
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It's going to be so funny after they remake Sky SC and maybe 3rd and go back to Calvard, and people see the stark difference in writing and visuals between the two and sales plummet even worse.
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>>550607313
you must feel right at home then fag
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>>550606851
Based p0wnage of tranime shit games by osum anon!!!
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it's not funny, you think I like eating soup for the rest of my life?
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>>550608110
just pretend it's Reanasis' warm piss
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>>550606851
This anon?
So based
People who liking of anime trashes?
Fucking tarded and raped!!!!!!! Yissssssssssssssss!!!
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Ok, but real talk. I didn't enjoy Trails 1st. I reached Ruan but stopped playing for other games, and now I can't seem to go back.
Story? I already know it with the exception of few filler sidequests and voice lines.
Gameplay? They are using the earliest version of the Kuro's combat system. Not even orders.

Did any of the old fans actually enjoy the remake? I guess seeing the waifus in 3D is cool.
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damn what triggered his episode today
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>>550608073
I'm not doin any Arc warring so I'm feelin pretty homeless right now actually
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>>550608394
no one here bought Sky 1st sorry sis
maybe in 1h if it goes down to $9.99
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Imagine if kiseki will actually never be finished. Will be funny.
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>>550608516
hum I was suggesting you are gay......................
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>>550608394
I don't play remakes. The original FC is perfect as it is
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>>550602482
The Switch is basically the Vita 2. The Japanese love their portability. Until Kai, I'm betting a lot of JP Trails streamers were on Switch.
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>>550608394
I enjoyed it a lot. Seeing Liberl in 3D was cool, I had not played Daybreak so this was my intro to that combat system. Everything looks really pretty; it is the prettiest Trails game in my opinion. I really like FC's story and so I did not mind playing through it again.
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>>550608394
everytime I read the new script I wanted to go back and play FC, everytime I heard the shit voice acting I realized how hard I was robbed of a genuine sidegrade. I dropped it around Zeiss. So no, I didn't enjoy it either. I shill the original to every person I can find over the demake with extreme prejudice.
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>>550608394
It was ultimately just another FC playthrough. Remake was a bit too faithful for its own good
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Where is my demo.
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ElysiumGPT, generate 7 more random Falcom games so they can stall until 2030
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>>550609863
right here *unzips dick*
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>>550609008
>playing dubbed
Your own fault
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>>550609961
Lloyd owned him
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>>550558672
I know you're thinking of the Steam key art but this is in line with the original.
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>Van cameo at the end of the 2nd chapter
>he flirts with loli Renne
>Van x Renne becomes the more popular couple compared to Van x Agnes
Anies...
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>>550610508
ElysiumGPT, generate an image of me as the chad and Lloyd as the mishyjak
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>>550608394
>Gameplay? They are using the earliest version of the Kuro's combat system. Not even orders.
Orders wouldn't make sense and also the gameplay as it already is is pretty easy to break early. Orders would completely trivialize it
>Did any of the old fans actually enjoy the remake
I liked it
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>>550608394
I haven’t played FC in almost a decade, so playing through the remake right now is a good refresher
I’m in Ruan myself and am enjoying it
I’m a kiseki achievement fag too as I’m looking to add FC to my plat collection, I’ve got 0-Kuro 2 platted
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>>550610642
tacit admission that kekvin and tita are shitters
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Threads are gonna be weird once we're officially caught up with Japan
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Falcom CEO Kondo Shareholder Meeting highlights:

- Falcom currently has 69 employees. Kondo thinks they'll eventually need to get to 100 employees if they want to release more than two games a year.

- Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter didn't meet expectations in Japan, but sold well in North America and China.

- The Trails in the Sky remakes were made in part to give the team a break as the team was getting exhausted.

- Falcom will focus on overseas markets and their multiplatform strategy.

- When asked about the lack of info for the new Tokyo Xanadu project, Kondo said they will have a lot of news in general to share during Falcom's 45th anniversary year.
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>>550610921
>Orders wouldn't make sense
I honestly didn't like that they tried to tie some gameplay mechanics to lore in a the way they did.
>enemies can use orders because of the twilight.
>switching between real time and command battle is a feature of shard technology.
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>>550612001
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter didn't meet expectations in Japan
Digitalsisters... our cope....
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>>550596927
/fg/ is just tsun for Kiseki, that's all.
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>>550612001
>give the team a break as the team was getting exhausted.
Unironically what went wrong for Calvard. Its like they're sick of it.
>they will have a lot of news in general to share during Falcom's 45th anniversary year.
Thats in March I think. Are they gonna say itll come after 2nd?
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>>550613275
>Unironically what went wrong for Calvard.
Faster to list what went right lol And it's just Judith and Risette
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>>550613275
It's not something actually wrong with Calvard but with Falcom making the stupid choice of not having a director
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>>550586905
Yeah Kondo, I'm sure with a 5 min recap video you'll recover all those people who left after Hajimari. Kek, this company never ceases to amaze me
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>>550613590
This. A team can be easily exhausted if they're throw into a project without leadership and guidelines to focus their interest.
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>>550608394
It's garbage, just like the rest of the remakes will be since they'll be made by the same cynical, soulless, underpaid salarymen
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>>550612001
>Falcom will focus on overseas market
kek it's fucking over
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>>550615470
jap market is dead for everything except nintendoslop
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>Fall 2026
how the fuck they take a whole year to release a game that's 90% asset flips that they obviously started working on before 1st came out, given the trailer at the end?
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Uh oh, snoy melty
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>>550616090
games just seem to take twice as long to make now for some reason
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>>550616090
Voice acting takes time. As does translation
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if they are redoing the translation in SC from scratch (dumb idea) i can see it getting delayed even. remember the original translators wanted to kill themselves?
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>>550616090
they have to take turns using Kondo's pc as the skyrocketing prices mean he can't afford buying new pcs
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>>550617195
Lmfao that almost killed xseed
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>>550617195
Since people actually like the old translation they will definitely rewrite it to ruin as much of the originals soul as possible. You can always count on Falcom to put in effort when making things worse.
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>>550612001
>- Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter didn't meet expectations in Japan, but sold well in North America and China.
Hurr durr 'but overseas meant only China' fags btfo'ed
>- Falcom will focus on overseas markets and their multiplatform strategy.
I hope this means Kai 2 is simultaneous release date because that's really stupid to say and not execute otherwise

>>550613590
Wait what do you mean by not have a director?
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Since Kondo stated clearly they will be focusing on overseas markets from now on, I guess it's over for any sort of romance options for Kai 2, isn't it
Oh well, at least the game should be on steam day one...haha...
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>>550616090
Anon, two things. 1, they always release their newest games in Fall 2026. 2, This is the second post that is saying a year is too long and I'm completely lost as to why.
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>>550617682
>people like fan fiction so it should stay
No
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>>550618032
Rean is such a lucky guy...
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>>550617195
Anon, there's a lot of reasons why that wouldn't happen this time

>>550618032
First of all, every country likes romance options. You can't even say that it's some kind of prude then when even western games that you wouldn't even think would have romance options started adding it.

Second, romance options are a non-zero reason for why they are in their current predicament. They tried to have both bonding shit but also try to have a love triangle as a major part of the story. And you can't even say that Japan likes either of them that much since it didn't help Calvard arc in any capacity.
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>>550618221
>fan fiction
You mean, like romance options that never end up canon?
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NEWS!!! she's shipping now
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>>550560573
The opposite is true, they can't keep extending it AND not finish the fucking arc lmao
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>>550618221
>things people like are bad
>we should replace them with things people don't like
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Sky Remakes Translation would've been fine if the characters didn't start talking like robots at times, made the jump to Original SC a good one because the Dialogue wasn't ass to read
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>>550618895
>changing characters personalities to whatever the translators want is a good thing actually
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>>550619302
>moving the goalposts is good when I do it
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>>550612001
They went all in on remakes. Unsure why the team is exhausted: Japanese players seem to want more Calvard rather than Sky which Falcom has sold to them numerous times already. I think the lack of director and grilling from shareholders is what's exhausting the team. Kondo should honestly hold a workshop because as soon as he stepped down as the main writer the series has not found its stride.

And for the people asking how Calvard is so expensive: VAs, probably. Specifically Van's. And they did redo animations for crafts and it seems like the optimized the engine in Kai as it runs better than it did in the first two Kuro games
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They should've stuck with the CSIII graphics instead of reinventing it for Calvard and having to subsequently lose access to all the insane amount of assets they built over the years with Cold Steel III-IV-Reverie
Calvard could've easily feature Crossbell and the SSS since it was all already made, Sky remake would've already had models ready for the cast that would just need a little touching up
The Calvard look wasn't worth all of this and the Genshin ripoff of the Sky remake is an eyesore
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>>550619685
>Japanese players seem to want more Calvard rather than Sky
I don't think they're turning out enough to make this claim
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>>550558723
Imagine Alisa, instead of first going to Thors, as a foreign exchange student in Jenis before CS1 starts, perhaps a bit after FC with Kloe back in Jenis, trying to get away from her mom by physically being as far away as possible. She keeps up the routine of trying to hide her identity, but instead of the awkward first encounter with Rean, the first person she (literally) runs into in Kloe, tits to face and everything. In spite of that they hit it off fairly well, Alisa quickly integrating herself into Kloe's friend group, them recalling Lechter and generally happier that Alisa is nothing like him, with Alisa slowly picking up on Kloe's anxiety, dread, melancholy, and the two ending up with a moment to open up with one another near Jenis' old schoolhouse. Family drama and loss, the pressures each face, the feeling of trying to get away from it all. It eventually reaches Kloe tearfully opening up about Estelle and Joshua, about her lingering feelings for the latter, about Joshua running away.

Imagine Alisa going on a rant about how much guys like him are the worst, how Kloe deserves better, absent-mindedly expressing how if she were in such a position she would treat a beautiful girl like Kloe right. Kloe is flattered but starts to feel like she's being flirted with, yet before she can attempt to express she isn't exactly interested she catches herself looking, really looking, at Alisa, and has to wonder if that's actually the case or not. Imagine that Kloe ends up giving Alisa a kiss on the cheek and thanking her, before realizing what she did and trying to apologize, Alisa's mind finally catching up to what she was saying and babbling out her own apologies, yet both considering that they might have liked that. Alisa tests the waters by saying Kloe deserves a PROPER kiss, and Kloe shyly lets her try. It sparks something in them, and it doesn't stop there.
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>>550621002
Cringe yurific. Use your AI to create a fanfic where Kloe and Alisa service Joshua and Rean's cock.
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>>550621002
Before they know it, their hands have not just pulled each other closer but have started to wander, explore, touch and caress areas as pleasure starts to build. Alisa teases Kloe's ass as Kloe undoes Alisa's uniform any plays with her breasts, freeing them from the blonde's bra and even suckling on them. Alisa's fingers finally find their way to Kloe's snatch, first rubbing it through her panties, then getting under them, two fingers sliding inside her pussy, a thumb teasing her clit. Any thought that they should stop vanishes from Kloe's mind and instead she begs Alisa to keep going, trying to return the favor herself while still giving attention to Alisa's breasts, her bright red face the color of her partner's eyes.

Finally, Kloe is able to climax, her free hand covering her mouth as she cries out Alisa's name in pleasure. The two stop and pant for a moment, Alisa pulling her fingers from Kloe's cunt, awkwardly laughing and making a remark on how it's no wonder Kloe's so attuned to Water Quartz. Before she can apologize for making light of it, she finds Kloe cleaning the fluid off of her fingers sensually, apologizing herself (if teasingly) for making a mess. If that wasn't enough to push Alisa over the edge, Kloe going down on her does, Alisa leaning against the wall as her skirt is lifted and panties pulled down, the Princess' tongue hungrily lapping at the blonde's cunt. She climaxes hard, her face somehow even redder than Kloe's after such an act. The two embrace, feeling lost in their own little world, almost ready for another round, but are brought back to reality as they hear a twig snap. They freeze, spotting Jill staring at them with a bright blush of her own and fogged up glasses. Jill tries to clear her throat and ask what they think they are doing... but a gleam of reflected light hits the fluid on Jill's own fingers. She'd clearly been there for quite a bit longer. They resolve to keep this between the three of them.
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>>550620602
Stable Day 1 sales and Kai selling more than Sky remake in Japan seem to imply that is the case.
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>>550621167
By the time Kloe gets a chance to see Estelle again, introducing Alisa to her group, she still confesses she had feelings for Joshua... but has found someone else instead.
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I'm sure people will totally go through the other games like 3rd and the rest after the SC remake to get to Kai 2. The 1000 more copies sold (multiple thousands will be lost from Kai 1 because people are done waiting) will justify all this waiting for what will most certainly be the recycling of the century
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>>550621183
I mean they aren't turning out enough to make it so that the Sky remakes are a bad idea. Like it'd be one thing if Calvard was selling maybe slightly less than CS and Sky remakes were in their current range but they are too close to each other for me to think its a mistake. Especially considering how much fanservice Kai was bringing to the table. It barely moved the needle
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They're not going to remake 3rd. It's already 90% flipped assets. If they give it a 90% asset flipped remake that'll be nearly 200% and the world can't handle that
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>>550621002
>>550621167
Your writing is uninspired, you clearly abhor details and pacing so you're just constantly rushing form one elation to the next without allowing any breathing room or build-up

Slow down, try to be in the moment yourself and imagine how it would truly play out from detail to detail

And work on your vocabulary and how words produce specific reactions, things like "cunt" take the reader out completely due to it being so crass and brutish
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>>550621140
Nah. Doesn't spark interest. I'd rather write another Agnes masturbating to Van or Estelle and Joshua or lolidom thing. Maybe Reana getting plowed by another one of the Class VII boys, if one of that chick's fantasies catch my interest.

>>550622080
M'kay.
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consider this:
It's still cooking because they scraped it after the backlash, they are putting more effort in secret.
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--!!! ALERT !!!!--

SKY 1ST IS ON SALE

I REPEAT

SKY 1ST IS 25% OFF!!!!!!

GO BUY IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--!!!! ALERT !!!!--
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I think it's time for you faggots to get on the gacha train.
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>>550622852
I'm good, thanks
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If more people get into Kiseki through the Sky remakes that means they'll eventually have to beat Cold Steel 3, but I don't think that's even possible, the sheer amount of nothing inbetween the Beginning and End is likely to put them into a coma
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another anti who dedicates a cooldown to Rean :3
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>>550623175
People are not going to go through 12 games to play catch up
They’re just not
Especially when the average gamer plays 4 games a year
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>>550623319
I mean you did though?
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>>550623491
For every person that plays every game you have thousands who won't move to the next one.
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>>550623579
can I see your study??
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>>550623175
That's what I'm struggling with currently, so you're spot on.
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The solution is right in front of Kondo's face: just bundle the series up and put it on sale for $100. Anyone even remotely interested in Kiseki is going to have the backlog slave mentality, if you get all the games in their library they'll be forced to see the series through
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>>550575968
Will Van/Nadia/Swin still get killed over and over in nuDaybreak 2?
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>>550623491
I did, but I also have kept up with the series since cold steel 1 on vita. Yes I’m a cold shitter but I’ve also played every game up until Kai.
Not everyone is going to be as dedicated as me.
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>>550624179
why do you put yourself above random people
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>>550622852
Why is Joshua in the cover?
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>>550622852
I can't believe Lavi unironically won.
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>>550624469
by not even being in the cover?
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>>550624398
Not trying to, but it’s a statistical fact that people who jump on newest releases don’t go back to play old ones. It’s why every single trails game is advertised as the perfect jumping in point, even when it’s not. Yakuza has this problem somewhat too but that’s not as impenetrable of a series as Trails is
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>>550622852
>So irrelevant that it can't even do the barest minimum of having a lot of whales that try to take over the fandom
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>>550624578
Gacha games don't really have a cover. They have banners.
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>>550624106
That's too far in the future to say for certain sorry
But the idea is a more dynamic approach so Erebonia+Calvard rather than 2 arcs
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>>550623579
And that's different from how it currently is how exactly?

>>550624000
NISA already does that but they can't do it with the whole series because hurr durr, too many different localizers and rights
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>>550624757
pedantic remark aside your winner is not in the banner
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I can't believe these autistic devs expect me to travel the Elize Highway all the way to the Gurune Gate to check out the refreshed NPC dialogues every time I move the story 1 inch forward

That's such a massive waste of dev time holy FUCKING shit no wonder the team is exhausting this is clinical autistic behaviour
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>>550625286
It was always a meme that only hyper autists cared about
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>>550624998
I don't know if this is news to you but if it is, gacha banners cycle characters around. That's why you get something like CS2 Rean and Alisa with CS4 Joshua and Rixia.
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>>550625727
whose face is on the app icon?
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>>550618032
Kondo already said it wasn't happening before this anyway.
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>>550625286
Yeah as someone with limited time to play nowadays I can’t be assed to talk to every npc
I’ll talk to some, but Jesus the npc dialogue in sky remake is actually worthless
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>>550625286
You make it sound like you're being forced to do this. NPC chat is for hyper autists
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>>550625845
You tell me, but that's another thing that can switch as a game updates, usually as some special banner ot event promotion.
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>>550625892
I really do not trust Kondo when he says that at all. I'd actually believe him if there wasn't bond events and they didn't do the "almost every woman starts crushing on Van" thing, limiting it to only Agnes and Elaine but that is not what happened because they are too scared to lose that market
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>>550618032
Focusing on the west isn't going to suddenly make the writers stop being retarded.
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>>550625497
>>550626454
No, you misunderstand my post
It's not about the player checking it out, it's the insane amount of dev time being wasted on this autistic shit

At least Sky FC was limited by chapter barriers but then you get to Crossbell and you have every single NPC in the entire fucking country updating their dialogue every time something happens in the main quest

That's months of a dedicated team combing every single NPC and updating it with new dialogue that the average player isn't even gonna bother with

Incredibly autistic and like I said, it perfectly explains why the team wants to move the fuck on from this horribly mismanaged series

>>550626080
That too, there MIGHT be some neat lore drop once in a while but it's gonna be 99% inane garbage
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>>550626454
He IS one, that's why he's bitching about it. He needs to complain about something.
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>>550626593
doesn't seem like a winner if she's not featured in neither the banner nor the app icon haha
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>reading is hard
lmao. The zoomers out themselves.
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>>550626810
But they learned from that since ever since CS4, the games have limited the amount of NPC interaction as they are generally in totally different locations, so you can't just go anywhere
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>talks to every NPC in the games
>but doesn't talk to every NPC in /fg/
Some fan you are
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>>550626846
If you want to disrespect me at least have the decency to talk to me directly rather than through a proxy, and also make sure you understand my post
Why are you so needlessly unpleasant?
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>>550626690
They already lost it years ago. And now they're not even prioritising Japan so its already done.
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>>550627036
You don't have to be this dumb, anon.
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>>550627338
I reverse searched the image and it's 2 years old haha, what a winner
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>>550627304
>They already lost it years ago
It's still around so clearly not
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All I know is that you can ONLY post ITT if you have a penis.
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>>550627161
Yeah you're right, I suppose they do slow it down somewhat
And Kuro's implementation of silent background NPCs and minimap dots helped a bit (even if patrolling Edith gets really grating still)
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>>550627592
No it isn't. That market isnt buying these games. They pulled back with Kuro 1 as well. Now they're gonna focus outside Japan.
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I'm from France, if a French studio developed a series I love but for some reason I had to wait years to get a French pc port despite the Chinese getting theirs a month or so after the official console release I'd also despise the company and move on from the series

Falcom's disrespect for its Japanese players is astounding, they may as well not exist if they don't have a PS5
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I unironically want 3rd before Kai 2 now.
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>>550627489
Because they change banners and icons. You don't play mobile games do you?
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>>550628116
>I'm from France
We allow the Fr*nch here now? Shameful.
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>>550628223
of course I'm not a gachalet I just think it's funny you'd call lavi a winner when she doesn't exist
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>>550628406
Calvard is France THOUGH
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>>550624469
She gets content.....while the main series dies....
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>>550628426
But she does. You saw it. She even asked you to start giving birth.
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>>550628507
And people are surprised it failed...
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>>550628116
Japan doesn't care about PC. The issue is they stopped caring about the games and not even a remake of a game they like could make them return. So the only solution is to make a game they'd like but Falcom can't do that until after Calvard happens. But NOW Falcom put the main series on pause so they have to wait even longer for something that might interest them.
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>>550628406
>>550628910
humble yourself
we gave the whole JRPG genre a chance and got every award in the world plus declared GOTY on our first try
while neither Calvard nor Sky got so much as a nomination or acknowledgement
in fact, thanks to us, normies are now ravenous for turn based JRPGs again, you literally owe France your continued existence
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>>550624469
>>550622852
My girl can't stop winning, even if it's because Calvard flopped so hard it killed Falcom's desire to continue the series. Bittersweet... unless...
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Sky 4th is happening.
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>>550628910
Kek
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nothing sadder than picking up the mantle of the dedicated waifufag... for Lavi lmao
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>>550629878
I can think of one thing: being an unironic Calvardfag. Imagine getting bullied by Falcom THIS badly, so much that the gachafags are expressing pity.
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>>550567801
How is it more brutal? CS3 left you with the thought that many characters, including Olivert, are dead.
Rean succumbed to the curse and his powers, Millium died- you just saw how terrifying Ishmelga was, the bad guys for all intents and purposes *won at all levels* at the end of CS3.
With Kai we know two things:
1. Time was reset to some point so characters dying like Emilia isn't an issue
2. Agnes is gone.

That's one character dying with a second chance at solving things.
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>>550630209
Damm
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>>550630209
Holy shit yeah, that has to sting
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>>550630209
>boy am I glad the series I love is getting shat on and put on hold indefinitely
lol what a brainlet this affects you just as much as any "arcfag" you are in a made-up war with
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>>550630209
Okay maybe the Lavifag isn't the bottom of the barrel...
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you don't need to keep replying to yourself
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Would Kato have allowed this to happen
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>>550630902
kek got his obese ass
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>>550630919
He would have bought a bigger house.
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>>550630902
That's right. I am all of
>>550630209
>>550630427
>>550630572
>>550630578
>>550630781

And you know what? I am also (You).
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>>550630902
Lavifags really are pathetic, aren't they?
... or should I say he?
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>>550623175
They should remake cold steel so people can just strar from there.
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I guess it's pretty much set in stone the next arc will be the final one
In the end we didn't even visit half the East side, so much for worldbuilding
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>Vankid kicked down so hard he has to compete against the gachafag
Haha holy shit...
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>>550631660
based AND true
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>>550631661
Van is SO lucky...
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lavifag out here acting like his EoS gachashit isn't more irrelevant than even fucking ys vs trails lmao
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>>550621002
>>550621167
Sigh.
>unzips
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>>550575968
>it's the muh FF7 remake shit again
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This is what unironic mental illness looks like.
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FINISH IT FOR ME:

GO
WOKE
GO
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how did kea not see the septy of time in her calculations
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>>550632443
RICH
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>>550632443
Fish
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Just started daybreak and man, I'm salty

I can suspend the disbelief in the timeline where nothing happened for roughly 30 years and suddenly technology explodes. It's on the up and up and crazy new advancements, but like it feels TOO fast like 3 years ago we barely had motor bikes, six years ago ground orbal engines were too unstable to be used for ground transport for anything other than super heavy items and suddenly the MC is driving a ford F1-50 that he's spend 2 years gearing up? Like I get that different nations ect ect but feels like we went from medieval fantasy with starter tech to modern day almost scifi way too fast in the span of the past 10 years lmao.
>Like that just annoys me but what really pisses me off about this game, is through out all of the other games there might have been like country based hate and that stuff but suddenly we have white supremacists?????????? Out of fucking no where? Who the fuck are the white people even? Erebonians? To the east of erebonia is supposed to be like a crazy huge desert that's killing everything because the dragon veins are drying up so it's not them? Like is it a small time thing? Is this exclusively a calvard thing? Are the "white" people calvardians? Why are there white supremacists in my fantasy game lmao especially when no other place really seemed to care about race from what I can recall.
>ALSO this is me being an old man shouting at clouds but if you told me in the third chapter I'd have to beat up techbros who got rich off a start up and that vapes were the devil I wouldn't have fucking believed you.
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okay but after waiting so long imagine how hype it will be to see Van again in the cool teaser trailer
Skyfags got a Sky 2nd trailer today and didn't feel anything so did they really win? not a single one of them even cared to post the Kevin screenshots lol
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>>550587613
Do you realize how much it kills CShaters inside that the series didn't survive the arc that they've staked their identity on "saving Kiseki" after CS?
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>>550632937
the karmic justice is insane
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>>550589956
>Calvard
>Satisfying story
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>>550632828
>Like that just annoys me but what really pisses me off about this game, is through out all of the other games there might have been like country based hate and that stuff but suddenly we have white supremacists?????????? Out of fucking no where?
Anon, the "Calvard having an issue with immigration" was brought up like waaaay back in Crossbell. Other than Heiyue, it was like the one thing that we knew about from there
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>>550632504
Woke killed the series
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>>550632828
Crossbell is more futuristic than Calvard so idk why you only have an issue with technology now makes me think you only played sky lol
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>>550631661
There is absolutely zero chance that they don't have a Far East arc. Do you really think they are going to give up the chance to depict a place that could have potentially notJapan, that one of the most popular girls comes from and where Rean's master comes from? And is the most open "no idea what it looks like" location in the series? I would actually bet money they are doing a Far East arc next.
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>>550632828
I just know the translators were jacking off as they translated kuro. They were salivating at the prospect of putting white people bad in their translation
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>>550633123
You get btfo every time you try this.
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>>550633092
???
daybreak 1 has a good story wtf
maybe you didn't like daybreak 2 cause you didn't get it but it's okay not a lot of people get it
kai is great you will love it when you get horizon
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>>550633274
No I thought lloyd was a loser so I skipped them, then had to suffer through 4 games of rean going "forgive me master I must go all out, just this once" any time something even looked in his direction
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>>550631836
Not sure if hot take but I am really not a fan of Renne crushing on Van because it removes the chance of Renne getting a LI of her own. Now, even though I don't think she'll ever lose importance, she's always gonna be seen as part of Van's haremette
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>>550633634
Daybreak 1 has a story that a saturday morning cartoon would find trite
>Literally Satan evil group causes trouble, then they cause more trouble, then they cause more trouble, then they cause more trouble
>You beat them then you beat them then you beat them
>oh and Van has a demon inside him
11/10 story
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>>550633419
The final arc is the chinkshit arc and Arteria will just get fucked. Remember that Kondom hinted that we're not actually ever going to see it, and he absolutely won't be able to resist making an entire arc dedicated to jerking off China. Cao will most likely be forced into it as well.
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>>550633590
I'm confused. This is proving my point?
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>>550633790
melchior is a captivating villain and steals every scene he's part of though
if you didn't feel emotions during ronnie's chapter that's on you but I was happy then cried then got angry and then was hopeful it was a great chapter
risette and judith had cool intros too and letty and oathman are always super cool
gerard section in oracion was super cool he was a great one off villain
sorry you didn't enjoy a video game due to your weird ego problems
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>>550632937
>>550633090
>Reanspic delusion
A tale as old as time.
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>>550633790
That describes like every game?
In fact the first two things are literally Sky's and Zero's plot.
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>Sky 2nd announced
>look inside
>it's more arcwars
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>>550634050
>Melchior
Entertaining I guess, but not substantial in any way. He just chews the scenery.
>Aaron
Utterly ruined within a few chapters especially as he becomes Heiyue's bitch

The rest is >X is so cool!!
whcih well I can't disprove that
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>>550634331
Kai 2 is delayed and there's only one game next year again. This was bound to happen
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Gerard Dantes was cool
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>>550634356
lol that's absurd that's like saying lloyd is heiyue's bitch
oh wait you admitted not playing crossbell lol why do you even hate heiyue then
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>>550634209
Your arc killed Trails, shut up Kusoeater
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>>550634465
>>550634465
>>550634465
>>550634465
>>550634465
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>>550633968
The post that shows that the Calvard arc is nothing like Calvard was shown before.. proves your point that it was like it was shown before?
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>>550633790
>sc's main antagonist is an evil pedo priest and a group of turbo edgelords straight out of myspace
>crossbell's antagonists are a demon worshiping priest, evil bankers with one being irredeemably evil, and a fat guy
>cold steels' antagonists are a guy pissy about his grandfather being outplayed, a clownish noble alliance, and a guy being controlled by a being of pure hatred and malice (basically a demon)
Richard is literally the only antagonist that doesn't fall into that category. Hamilton doesn't fit it either, but the story isn't done yet.
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>>550634516
we already got confirmation that was Sen, Reanspic. Both Japan and the West hated it.
Haha, poor delusional reanspics
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>>550634847
But every single CS game has high ratings?
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>>550634209
Kondo hates you specifically. Calvard? Cancelled lmao.
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>>550581656
Wait a minute? Tita is another claudel clone???
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>>550581610
which series is kai?
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>>550635730
Towa on the tenth page!
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>>550590269
To some extent that's true, but come the fuck on
Calvard looks nothing like was set up in previous arcs. Remember Towa saying immigration is controversial or Gramheart running on it after forming "the patriot party" and winning?
and of course the regression of Rixia and Kevin.



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