Healing edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous Thread>>550597616
One week until ChristmasRemember
luddite xisters do be angry that AI chads are smarter then them
>>550672321fuck off shill
Around 100 arguments about AI happen on agdg alone EACH DAY.About 700 arguments in the week around your bait.AI webm? Low effort social media repost? BOOM thread's done.Also, not only are you having to deal with every retard that has no game, but the entire backlog of faggots who asked a chatbot to do something for them and it made something better than they could because they're unskilled retards :)Take all the "thread success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of AI obsessed faggots in agdg who post constantly about AI (again, 100 arguments a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "having a good thread."Blackpills, 2 weeks, Grok is the closest thing they've had to a gf, AND to top it all off: None of the people who claim that AI is going to take over ever seem to have used it to make a game. If you successfully win this "mediocrity lottery" by baiting the thread into arguing about AI you'll have to so it all over again the next thread>He thinks that we can just have a thread about gamedev in 2025HahahahahaF A G G O TAGGOT
>Six days left to prove you can make pong!https://itch.io/jam/12-days-of-christmas-paddle-and-ball-game-jam-2025
>>550672321retard
>mother fuckers and daughter fuckers
before: https://litter.catbox.moe/2ej0bhyxa2zhw0t2.webmafter: https://litter.catbox.moe/ae0he0csvz5xq4d6.webm
>>550672321Meds.
>>550672694>oyakodon
Eric here... I don't browse the thread anymore, too many schizos .
should I pick up game dev as a hobby?I wasted 2025 completely. Achieved absolutely nothing except whatever I did at my desk jobI need a creative outlet pretty bad, but have no code experience beyond what I did in highschool (text based adventure game being the most complicated thing I made)
>If I was an expert artist, I would have already made it.>If I was an expert coder, I would still have not made it.>If I was a music/sfx expert, I would still have not made it.Bros....>>550672321Based Eric Chad thread poster>never give upAiieeeeeee! But it's so hard Eric! But what other choice do I have, my odds in the wage cage are terrible!
>>550673294make an interactive CLI text-game
>>550672454damn this is like the one nerdy kid who stands on his chair to tell everyone santa actually isn't real
>>550673246The biggest proof that the keys don't come form Eric was right in front of our eyes. He would never post keys here or even lurk after it became clear that all the devs left and it became a den of shitposters. The only one who would keep doing it despite the desolation is eric schizo. This is just irrefutable
I have to finish proof of concept before a meeting tomorrow night with the rest of the team. Wish me luck
it's ok eric.. i mean not-eric, we believe you.
>>550673294Nah. Gamedev is a terrible hobby. Try Pickleball instead.
>>550673483anon this is amateur game dev general, not professional "i WoRk oN A tEaM" general. fuck off back to your high rise apartment you nepobaby.
>reddit tennis
>>550673246>>550673326>>550673443>>550673445>>550673528The guy posting the keys is the schizo who just now made this thread OP. Who is the one person we all know who loves to vandalize the OP and tries to convince everyone that the Eric keys are real? If only there was some regular poster
>>550673661I mean, he could also try tennis. Tennis is my main H O B B Y, but it's also quite hard just like gamedev and not particularly fun until you get really good at it, which takes years of practice.
>>550673643We're all equally neet losers, we just managed the step of "going outside and meeting people" That said core idea of the story and gameplay loop was my idea so if I can't cobble together a "look, it is a functioning thing" its gonna go nowhere so we're here now.
>>550672742KINO
>>550672742Aesthetic animation is rly good. Text speed should probably be a bit snappier to follow the flow of how your animations move
>>550672742yooooo which powerpuff girls season is dis
>>550673294>hobbykek i will never understand your type, you better hope it's>0% about money>0% about attention>0% about le gamedev communitycause be prepared when your game gets>max 10 downloads, $0 donations>10k joined gamejam only gets 20 plays max>making a good idea can result in thieves who will make it off your idea and crying about it won't stop itodds are you like video games, the idea of having a video game on par with AAA, but not the effort required to make such a game
can't wait to see the look on eric-doubter's face when Mr. Barone makes his annual pilgrimage and proves them wrong in front of everyone
>>550674202>it was real in my head mooooom
>>550673708if this is true then how does he afford all of those keys? surely not from his own game's sales.And how has he posted switch, ps4, and vita keys in the past? Steam keys on their own are easy to come across, you seriously think some schizo is driving up to Target every year and buying all of their game key cards just so he can pretend to be Eric Claus for a day? Get real.
@550673708>t. the guy who spams the generaldo (you) even have a game?
>>550672742prompt?
>>550673294making prototypes and tech demos is funmaking actual products that other people want to buy and play not so much, there's a lot of tedium involved, but it can be rewarding
>turns out Eric really does have jungle fever
Let me guess. "Eric Barone" is gonna add some meta-ironic comment about getting exposed as a fraud to this year's Christmas post. Almost like he constantly lurks here like a schizo with no life. He's a really busy man, it's amazing that he finds all this time to lurk here 16 hours a day and snipe the OPs of new threads with such precision.
Fuck Eric, I'm gonna request a refund, 50 hours and 10 years later.
>>550674673Calling it now. This year the schizo will make the card as generic as possible to avoid including any incriminating references
>>550673708>weYou mean you. You don't speak on my behalf>>550674565This. The work is way too much nowadays. This isn't 2010 with a lowbar anymore where a basic UI is good enough. Even game jams are having their bar raised.
>>550672321Reminder to stop rewarding this kind of OP shitting and just make a better alternate thread. Then bump the better thread and let this one die. Has worked in the past and will still work. It's all AI xister has left, just take it from them.
Give up
>>550675051so now eric schizo is the ai spammer? you people seriously need to get out more, this is getting sad.
>>550674091I should definitely add an option to change the text speed. Thank you anon.
i need to get good at making lolislop
>thread is about a successful yesdev>presumably from /agdg/>AI xisters explode seethingmy work here is done
>>550674713How do you expect me to buy more ferns...
>>550675342The answer to one shitty screenshot of text OP is not to post another shitty screenshot of text.
frfr though eric, hurry up on the chocolate game.
>>550675553i look like this fr
>>550675051>ericschizo removes the AI and chudot vandalismYeah, I'm thinkin' based.
>>550672321>>550672454>>550597616>>550597760These are all the same poster. He makes his shitty screenshot OP while nobody is watching then replies to it to make this the first post, THEN links the thread. Stop rewarding this behavior.
where is the lolidev general
>>550675553kek you're that bugs bunny poster aren't ya?>>550675678will you be my gamedev gf? can you draw art? i am in need of a 2D artist in particular. i can code. but we have to work on my game idea first, unless of your course yours sound super gmi.
>>550675987>he doesn't know
>>550675801>>550597629>12/18/25(Thu)09:16:07 >>550597760>12/18/25(Thu)09:17:23(1 minute and 16 seconds after)>>550672372>12/18/25(Thu)21:20:07>>550672454>12/18/25(Thu)21:21:01(54 seconds after)Fact Check: FALSE
>>550675987right here kanna-dev
Post you're games.
>>550675678you're fat and asian?
>>550676257is this 3d with some sort of filter?
game dev doko?
>>550676178>does the same thing twice>forgets that people have brains and can recognize patterns>thinks his ban dodging multi device posting ways can fool us
>>550676823Recognizing patterns that aren't there is a symptom of schizophrenia. I'm just here to prevent the spread of misinformation and encourage the spread of Christmas cheer.
>>550676658Yes, it basically voxelates the scene if that's a word. I can show more if any interest.
>>550676257>around 1k wishlists in just 8 daysPretty good.>No menus, no demo>Release Date: Q1 2026Lol. Dream on.
>>550672742did you do the art for both? cutscene makes me wish the actual sprites were higher fidelity now. also sex with all 3
>>550676683she looks like she fucks high poly men
>>550677272no its okay
>>550678498Damn, wishlists are public? I had a hard enough time finding it on the partner site. An it's worse, I registered for nextfest in 2 months, demo needed. How fucked am I?
>>550679595um that's a lowpoly child she's not supposed to fuck anyone..
>>550679595What?
>>550679897They're not public, but they can be estimated based on other data. https://gamalytic.com/game/4241390 shows you at >Outstanding wishlists: 756but that's usually a slight underestimate, so I just guessed 1k.Typically, you want to accumulate wishlists BEFORE you do Nextfest. Nextfest is a wishlist multiplier. If you enter with 1k, you can expect maybe an extra 500-1k wishlists. If you enter with 100k, you can expect an extra 50k-100k wishlists, so it's best to participate in the Nextfest closest to your actual release date. For this kind of game, I'd expect lots of stat sheets and tables. I'm not sure really what your plans are, but based on the description on your Steam page, this game is massively overscoped, and so far, it feels like you have less than 10% of the features you describe the final game having. Your trailer is just a fake cinematic visual mock-up and doesn't show any actual decipherable gameplay. The only thing that shows anything resembling gameplay is the very last gif with the hexagons, and even that's not showing any actual combat.Unless you have a very skilled team of developers with at least a decade of experience and several commercial games under their belts, there's no way you finish a demo in just 2 months.
>>550672742
Luddite sisters..this is our last stand before the apocalypse
>>550680464>3d cucumbers>fully modeled burgertroonpoly
>>550672321why does the stardew valley guy post here of all places?
>>550682151lisa sinso so cute
>>550682151because he can be anonymous
>>550682151That's not Lisa, that's Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade.
>>550681413Oh good to know, I probably am overscoped but just because UI isn't presentable yet, doesn't mean it's not there. I don't make mockups, that was gameplay with the crappy old renderer. I might not make the deadline but I don't know, I work better under this kind of pressure.I recommend other devs here put a hard date for miletones or you'll be 'perfecting' some stupid aspect like I did for months.
>>550679101I hired an artist; she made basically everything you see in those cutscenes. As you can see, she's insanely talented. And the craziest part is, I didn't even ask her to make the characters so sexy. She just did it on her own. I was genuinely surprised when I saw Willow's bounce.
>>550682638
>>550682256erm no that's Shinobu her nerfed form
>>550682256isn't that the name a shadertroon devtuber uses
Woke up at 5am.. Planning what part of my game I'll be working on today. Makind a list of things big and small that I can cross off the list. Then I'm going to have breakfast and then I'm getting to work.No job since 2021. Gamedev is my only chance, but my game is unappealing because people find the wrong things appealing.
>>550682835Yes, Acerola stole his identity from Monogatari. You can tell by the way he edits his videos, also his logo has bats.
>>550682418It looks like a mock-up. There are several cuts in it that make no sense from a gameplay perspective. How did you squeeze the camera into a building to order the units inside? How did you manage to precision command the units to line up at the window and crotch for cover? Through what system did you order the aircrafts to flyover and engage? It all looks completely fake and scripted, and there's no real implication of any gameplay challenge yet. You're so caught up on showing cool visuals that you forgot to show any interesting gameplay mechanics. "Order units to go forward and attack" will be fun for all of 5 minutes at most.I'm also an advocate for deadlines, but IMO you're setting yourself up for failure. A playable demo will require essentially 100% of the game's systems completed, and for a game like this, that's basically 80%+ of what you need to make for the game, with the remaining 20% being additional campaign maps or whatever content you have planned. You've basically given yourself a "finish the whole game in 2 months" deadline, which is just unreasonable. Use shorter deadlines for smaller tasks instead.
>>550683239Don't be pessimistic, anon, it’s taking me 3 days to make my game menu
>>550683239>No job since 2021. Gamedev is my only chance, but my game is unappealing because people find the wrong things appealing.Assuming you're not a trannoid making pedo slop, I wish you success, anon. I've been in that "do or die" long term unemployment abyss before, and I somehow escaped with an eventual victory. >>550682712>
>>550684357It couldn't be pedoslop because people find pedoslop appealing.
I wanted to make a low poly porn game years ago and you guys called me delusional and gay and said no one would ever pay for it so I made a horror game instead and it flopped and now there's low poly porn games blowing up all over itch. YOU FUCKED ME AGGY. YOU FUCKED ME IN THE ASSS
>>550684760You have no taste and no game and would've flopped either way.
>>550684760proof?
>>550682712Get sucked, bitch.
>>550683838> Let me tell you about your gameI can do this all day, units have indoor pathfinding, they crouch and stuff according to morale and stance. Sorry for low quality, trying to fit under 4mb.Now I did make a mistake for making a cinematic for an unknown IP but the UI wasn't in a presentable state yet.If your definition of a mock-up is doing video cuts in a cinematic, then I don't know what to tell you. And there's nothing stopping me for doing a gameplay trailer later.About deadlines, you're probably right, I should move it back, but I'll try to no-life this for a bit first.
UI panel pre-render.
>>550682638KINO!!!!! For me it's Aurora
>>550685528OHNONO LOOK AT THE TOP OF HER HEAD>>550684760Word on the street is that vampire survivors/7daystodie hybrids are the next big thing
>>550685528whats going?
>>550672321>never giveACK!!https://www.techspot.com/news/110592-nearly-half-19000-games-released-steam-year-went.html
>>550686269That's what we call Cinema.
>>550686450Valvecultists love that their store is a litterbox, a mountain of sand covering an even larger mountain of shit.
>>550684357>I somehow escaped with an eventual victory.how big of a victory are we talking here, your game made half a million or something? i'm hoping for that kind of success.>>550682712see >>550684357>>550685528erm who's the sexy bystander with big hoo-ha's?
>>550685783nta but is this an rts?
i have chicken powder and spaghetti so im making cup of noodles because the only things i have are spaghetti noodles and this and i have very little money
>>550686774>erm who's the sexy bystander with big hoo-ha's?Tsubasa Hanekawa
>>550686963Yes, is realtime but without the focus on actions per minute. You can pause and give careful orders and it's slower paced and larger scale than stuff like Gates of Hell. It has an operational/logistics layer for the campaign in full 3D so you know what terrain you're going into for battles. Closest game is Graviteam Tactics but with more intuitive controls and sensible UI.
>>550687423she's beautiful>>550687850got any snow maps?
>>550687850Nice, kind of reminds me of Bungie's Myth series based on the graphics and your description of the gameplay.
Our hobby poster?
>>550684760If I were online at the time I could have given you a word of encouragement, but I guess fate had other plans in store for you.
>>550684760Always do the opposite of what /agdg/ says. If Vampire Survivors was posted here anons would say it was going to flop.
>>550687989I'm hoping to do better with shaders but here's an example of winter frost.>>550688853Oh I was skeptical from the name but the crunchy pixels are exactly what I'm going for, I'll check out the gameplay too.
It seems bokudev only replies to his demos steam group discussions now... how do we get him back here bokusisters.... https://steamcommunity.com/app/1149490/discussions/
>>550690092I come here sometimes to shill my game
So is that one fag finally gone from these threads?
what went wrong?
>>550687065food is fuel so you do things that need doing
>>550687423she owes me neko milk
>>550690418Where is your tripcode? Are you really boku? I havent seen shilling in here for about a month now... feels like a troll I can tell hes been gone from here for awhile
>another day of zero progress
Working on UI today. 550 hours worked on the game and it's barely a prototype. The game won't be appealing to streamers or zoomers. It's not even 3D.The fuck am I doing?
>Larian does literally -LITERALLY- the same thing Valve does - using AI for concept art>They are subject to a massive backlash that forces them to publicly backtrackMake a handful of good games and even twenty years later you really can do whatever you want kek.
>>550689168>If Vampire Survivors was posted here anons would say it was going to flop.What exactly is the reason behind this phenomena? It's not just this place, even reddit would have likely said the same thing. Even Zukowski was saying card games/deckbuilders are all dried out in the current market and you should make something else...right before Balatro hit. And he isn't an average person but a professional. So why are people bad at recognizing successful ideas before they become successful?
fatfuck gabencunt did this
>whoops>wrong thread
>>550692131no one knows anything.>thousand people make predictions>one gets lucky and gets it right >he and everybody else think he's a geniusif there were a method to reason out and engineer a major success (relative to what was invested), big studios with very smart highly paid employees would be releasing a new Balatro and Vampire Survivors literally every week. but thankfully no one knows anything for sure which is why we have a chance.
>>550692324thought the logo was a pepe for a sec
>>550692324Qrd? No wishlists? Removed by dev or valve?
>>550692324the correct decision. the trick is to know whether the game is gmi as early as possible.
>>550692653>interesting game gets delisted because gabencunt fucked over indies with his promotion algorithmGreat.
>>550692735>fucked over indies with his promotion algorithmThere is NO promotion algorithm for games in Early Access dumbass, it never gets recommended to people unless the game is already selling millions.
>>550692735it's not gaben's fault. gamers are low IQ trash cattle and they like the wrong things
>>550692324>>550692653>wasting 100 bucks instead of re-using the steam pagelol
>>550692831>There is NO promotion algorithm for games in Early Access dumbassthat's exactly my point dumbass
>>550692831>>550692883which brings into question, is megabonk the new strat? release an early access game without using early access and then release content and improve it?
How many games in early access have been completely abandoned? There is a reason there is no promotion for it, they should have never allowed it.
>>550692880$100 is nothing compared to the amount of time (therefore money) it takes to finish a game.
>>550693035qrd
>>550693014>fat retard doesn't want to do any quality control on his platform>lets scammers fester on it>scammers ruin user trust>fat retard gimps the system for devs and ruins the market to deal with scammersAbsolutely genius
>>550693148You're absolutely right, Valve should be charging $1000 per game added to Steam.
>>550676257>>550677272How did you manage to do this? Low res filters in screen space really get noisy when you move the camera
>>550693205That's not the solution. It won't put an end to scams, they'll just switch from asset flips to stuff like The Day Before.
>>550693014Early access wasn't a bad idea but it should have been a way for developers to host free alpha/beta tests. Letting them charge money for incomplete games was retarded and they only did it because they were hoping for the next Minecraft to be on steam.
>>550692883I don't want to see the front page flooded with your trash early access games you only use to "test the waters", Ivan. Get a fucking marketing budget. Never at any point in your development process should you rely on something you have no control over such as the algorithm, that's such gambling.
>>550693794>that's suchthat's just*Fuck it, no more 4chan for me until the weekend is over, better work on my game instead.
>>550693148Small indie company. Can't hire someone to moderate greenlight. Please understand.
Ai
>>550693981is good when valve uses it
>>550693794>I don't want to see the front page flooded with your trash early access games you only use to "test the waters"Projection
>Be told that low level gamedev coding is imposible and a waste of time>Try to learn it>It's actually one of the most interesting subfields of computer scienceI mean, writing a 3D game about beating up waifus to capture them in your male balls, is more interesting and dificult than writing some hospistal or goverment shit and also more interesting than writing a crypto trading scam app.
>>550693247Yes your right, so if screen space is too flickery what might be the solution?
>>550693931It helps that there's hundreds of suckers (in this very thread included) who will defend being exploited by Valve. Because it's okay when Valve does it.
>>550686149>Word on the street is that vampire survivors/7daystodie hybrids are the next big thingnta, but oh yeah, sounds pretty leg-OH FUCK. I WAS THINKING OF DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR
Holy fuck you're retarded. It wasn't Toys R Us job to protect us from bad Nintendo games or promote the good ones. They just fucking sell them.
>>550689087i look like this
>>550694541That was Nintendo's job. Hence the Nintendo seal of quality.
>>550694036What do you call an early access game that gets taken off the store after a month?Certainly not a passion project that's for sure.
>>550689819nice, why none on the buildings?
>poor quality control, market oversaturation with too many similar consoles and low-quality games, and an uncontrolled flood of third-party titles, which eroded consumer confidence and led to video game crash of '83>Video game and hardware sales this year were the lowest they've been in decades
>comparing retail to digital marketMan steamies really are the dumbest creatures out there.
>>550694717Correct, quality control is the publishers job. Nintendo published , performed quality control, and distributed every single game on the NES except the unauthorized ones.>>550694959Good. Last time there was a crash we got all new publishers and developers.
>>550692937make good appealing gamesthe cybernoir game looks competent at a glance but i didn't see appeal. like enemies or situations that you want to roleplay in. its just vague generic looking envs and screens
>>550694891That's where I need some shader work. Check normal of pixel to upright and add snow texturing with some noise I think.
>Nintendo published , performed quality control, and distributed every single game on the NES except the unauthorized ones.Valve published and distributed every single game on Steam as well, and yet performs no quality control.
>>550695175>i didn't see the appeal = game doesn't appeal to anyone ever
>>550695236Nope, Steam is the distribution and market place, PC is the platform. Go play consoles if you want quality control.
>Gaben won't protect me from my shitty buying habits>Gaben isn't giving me free marketing worth $100s of thousands of dollars by putting me on the front page
>Steam is the distribution and market placeAnd yet nothing is stopping GOG from doing quality control on their own market place.
>>550695441>free marketingNigga you pay the fat fuck to put your game on steam, 100 dollars + 30% forever. Are you high?
>>550695493Steamies are retarded, they don't see the 30% cut as paying Gabe Newell.
>>550695269one only has access to one's own perspective. that said, universality exists within the human experience. that's why level goes up in games. you can't make a game where level goes down and you get weaker as you play. everything that exists in the world and every thought you have is defined by the human perspective and experience. even fantasy or scifi or any concept ever, is based on real life experiences. I believe thinking about that with intent gets you closer to understanding media, why we view them, why we like them, and consequently, the nature of their pull or, appeal.
>>550695493You can avoid that fee by hosting your own website on a $5 VPS. If you want access to their customer base and distribution, yes you have to pay to use their servers.
>>550695532Nintendo and the retailers took more than 30%.
>>550695625Valve charges less to AAA games that they do promote.
>>550695170EA survived the '83 crash, they'll survive this one too
>>550695663Not to mention that Nintendo actually provided direct support to the devs making games for the NES. For the cut you game them, they promoted your game in the Nintendo Magazine and other outlets, for example.
>See modern games>It's garbage worse than SNES gamesMaybe the issue isn't that there are million of games, but that 100% of modern shit is just bad.
>>550695663Those games sell a larger volume and the publishers have leverage. Have you never had a real job before?
why doesn't your game have this?
>>550695753So what "access to customer base" are you paying for if the said customer base is only circled around AAA titles and a few select non-AAA titles?
>>550695750>>It's garbage worse than SNES gamesYet, you can't compete with "garbage"....
>>550695834Why don't you ask Eric, not me?
>>550695818I'm a Mormon
>>550692841It is, my indie has been getting hits and wishlists on Epic quite consistently for past month. On steam it's a drought
>all the games currently suck>you cant make any money>but at the same time its impossible to make a good game>even though the luddites lost
>>550695886I accept your concession, ericschizo.
>>550695917Understandable
>>550695838Not even modern AAA gaming companies can compete with 90's square.
>>550696020How many copies has Eric sold?
I want to show off my game so bad, but I know from experience that it looks great only to me and that at best it will have niche appeal.Internal pressure it is.
>>550695818
Also, Nintendo's seal of quality wasn't worth shit. 90% of those games sucked ass.
>>550696128>gamer brain momentleave your gamer brain outside of agdg
>10% cut for AAA and 20% for super high performing non AAA games, the rest get 30%>your game is now susceptible to be removed at any point due to payment processor bullshit>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)>systematically crippled the promotion algorithms to disadvantage devs and only benefit already selling ones>steamworks ui is outdated and obtuse, some systems like uploading trailers are straight up broken and require you to reupload the same file literally 50 times>incapable of maintaining their storefront and keeping away the bots>can't even unpublish your game by yourself, have to ask gabencunt to allow you to do it (meaning you don't own your game on steam)That'll be $100 + 30% tip forever, suckers!
>>550694959Reminds me of that thing, the Nintendo Seal of Quality. I'm assuming it was to make sure game's didn't enter their ecosystem that were either one or both of>(A) didn't fit their systems desired game types>(B) weren't just the equivalent of asset flipsTo really drive down saturation in gamedev it's going to have to be years of concentrated effort pushing people out of the gamedev market on multiple fronts to the point this only seems achievable under special situations such as a recession or depression on a global scale. Cause otherwise>variety of gamedev youtubers inspiring people to enter gamedev>game jams and their affiliated discords making it look lively and fun>the knowledge that a few indie devs got rich and that they assume they're built different than the majority and can also achieve riches>the knowledge that if you live in certain countries that the amount you can make from a game can outclass wagingI mean come on half of the reasons are just an obvious loneliness masked with an excuse. Just look at how they treat their parasocial relationships, do they really care about gamedev or even games? Or are they just there to bond with a youtuber and their fellow lonely commenters all while using gamedev/games as an excuse? How many of these are the same people that would call gamers losers just a decade ago? It's likely that same type of person who freaks out about staying in and "needs" to go "out." Fix that problem and the first two green texts on gamedev youtube, game jams, and discord is utterly resolved. The last two require something bigger, a global depression where even 1st worlders aren't going to be buying their (3rd worlders) games and times are too tough to gamble it on gamedev.
Or we can just get Trump to pass a law banning foreign game development.
>iron lung made bank and Markiplier turned it into a movie Your excuse?
>>550696128It was about making sure they actually functioned than the actual quality of the game. And now no one wants to force valve to play games and pick them based on some arbitrary quality standard we just want blatant scams and asset flips off the store. There shouldn't be developers with hundreds of games releasing a year but there is and it hurts everyone. Hell Valve actually let non-functioning games and malware onto the store for years before they were forced by the Australian courts to allow refunds. That's horrible.
>>550695818this is that game by the anon who stopped devving for a few months cause he got a gf on the 4chan dating app right?what game is it anyways?>captcha>they added a harder oneugh
>>550696351ban games from Gyna first!
>>550696040Cris....what's your sleep schedule like?>>550696054Kek why not get an artist?
>>550696417You don't understand, chud, allowing shit like picrel is where Valve's financial interests lie, and only their financial interests are valid!
>>550696648nta but the majority of their cash is likely just from the app fee alone>4+ million app ids>4m * 100 = $400m>2m of those app ids have appeared in just the last 3 or so years>about $66 million every year on app ids alonethis assumes all of the app ids are ones that require a $100 payment
>>550696519>Kek why not get an artist?If a game is good, it'll make it despite the art not being great (still okay, still competent).But for a game to make it because of art, the art needs to be world class and the game can still flop.What I'm saying is great art is s a pretty expensive crutch.
>>550696519I sleep when I feel like I'm sleepy.I don't have a sleep schedule.
>>550696781Valve's 30% in 2024 was over 3 billion dollars. The 66 million (0.066 billion) is a drop in the bucket.
>>550696781Nah most of those are DLCs since they get their own store page too. However, they still take a cut from all those DLC sales, so you were close, just not exactly.I wouldn't think there's more than 100 thousand new games registered on Steam yearly, that's including all the games that remain unreleased.
>>550696926>Valve's 30% in 2024 was over 3 billion dollars.So THAT'S why you get dogpiled and shut down if you ever try to imply Valve is treating devs unfairly and ruined the market...
>>550696648I wonder what the developers have in mind to think that it's ok to release or even advertise a game in this state, even as an early access.The models aren't even the definitive ones, they are just downloaded from the asset store; I surely am not paying 4,99 euros for this, no sir.
reminder that vidrel:- was made by 2 experienced ex-Relic devs- took 4 years to make- earned the developers less than the federal minimum wage- looks and plays better than your game
>>550697380The better question is why Valve allowed this on their asset store at all to begin with. Steamies claim they want to provide the best experience to the customer. How does this "game" being on there benefit the customer, outside of Steam macking a mockery of itself by allowing this shit to stay up?
>>550697407So why do you post FUD that nobody actually cares about?
>>550697407games like this remind me why most of the AA/AAA are cogs instead of idea guys
>Steamies
>>550697680>Crimson Skies, but you own a bar>Hey guys!>why did this game flop?
>>550697680>>550697765I don't believe your games even have better ideas, let alone execution.
Why is no indie devlogger or gamedev youtuber using my game as an example in their videos...
>>550697765Shouldve made Vampire survivors but with potatoes instead
You're a fucking brown third worlder, and judging by your posts, I don't even think you experience the same conscious reality I do.
Who are you talking to?
>>550697913and then they say the society is going to shit because of trannies or immigrantsbut they ignore "people" who like playing VS but with potatoes
You, dipshit. I can tell how many people are posting even without access to your IP addresses.
I don't often wish the pain of awareness on anyone, but you need to take some fucking mushrooms or acid.
>hey man I love your game>Wow thanks, maybe I can get some feedback, what do you like>Never replied again.I fucking hate video game players honestly If I didn't need their money I would never fucking talk to anyone ever again All I need is one big money break and I can just make what I want instead of having to constantly beg for feedback
>>550698262>>550698239>>550698115>>550697929>>550697862Who are you talking to?
>>550697585I was discussing of this exact argument with my boyfriend at the time and his argument was that Steam had to hoard as many games as possible because if it didn't then those game would have passed to the competition and that would have hurt the store.No matter how many times I tried to explain to him that these kinds of games are so crap that no one is going to buy them and no store is going to benefit from them, no, he kept insisting that hoarding shitty games was essential to keep Steam running and first in place.Hell, even fucking Borderlands IV becoming EGS exclusive didn't damage Steam, what can these kind of games do in terms of damage to the store? Anyway, I left him after he started pitching to get matching tattoos (disgusting).
>>550698262>hey man I love your game! it would be perfect if you added city building like Cities Skylines but also if you could ride dragons over your cities and make it multiplayer so I can play with my friends and add mod support. and put it on mobile too!the only worthwhile feedback from gamers is how they feel at a given point in the game and actual bug reports.
I'm talking to the third world piece of shit who spams this thread 24/7.
>>550698330I only post in here to rant. I don't want to talk to you fucking no devs
>>550698440So you're talking to yourself? That's a pathology, you know?
>>550698440>I'm talking to the third world piece of shit who spams this thread 24/7.
You know who I'm talking about, the one who starts spamming gore and loli any time the Jews are brought up.
>>550698380And then everyone clapped
>>550698439I want to achieve flow in my game but unironically what you said is the only feedback I've ever fucking gotten >WHAT IF YOUR GAME WAS LIKE OTHER GAMEFuck me I hate devving so much
Valve was mindbroken by Minecraft's success.
Now he's pretending to be a dev until he switches back to Gabencunt/steamie/luddite spam.
>>550698635>>550698535Why are you talking to yourself? You need help.
Apparently he doesn't know how message boards works, and he thinks I'm talking to him.
He's doing all of this for attention, ignore him.
Nah. He clicked on the bad links. He has to post here.
The audience.
>>550699078>>550699035>>550699025>>550698907>>550698724Why are you like this? Why do you post this?
/agdg/ is my family
>Why are you like this?>Why do you post this?
You're a piece of shit human being and this funner than any game.
>>550691810I made progress but not enough. What did you do instead?
>>550699504I made this Rob Reiner meme and spammed it all over /pol/.
>>550697407no it doesnt
>>5506995043 days making this shit,gonna need to remake 2 buttons,a and remake all again for "dark mode" theme still no script and stuff for the settingsi gonna kill my self
>>550692006Lel I unironically am trying to prototype, it's not going too well. One system needs to be done via code because without it, the hacky method would be time consuming to set up. However setting up the code is also time consuming.
how to fix?
>>550697407Bing Vampire Survivors>>550698380Youre that one black gamedev arent ya
>>550672321I'm sorry, but I came with an idea for a game that will break steam and everyboody's mental capabilities. It 's kind of a hot genre right now with a hot topic right now so it's a double whammy. I hate the idea and I'd have to stop development of my game but when this shit hits the fan you'll be looking at VS type of success.I'm sorry agdg, I'm, gonna make a game of FOTM games.
>>550697765Crimson skies but you are Orcs flopped too.
>>550699702Energy gets sapped out of you fast by the tine you get to gamedevin doesnt it? Dont kill yourself anon. Im slow out devving, not happy about it desu
>>550699950Crimson Skies is truly a cursed franchise.
my game is set in a third world country but it's hard to make tilesets because everything is japanese or western adjecentfor example you can make a dirt road, concrete road or a tiled path but you can't make a cement road
>>550699504made new enemyhe can't attack and gets all fucked up when colliding with a wall
>>550700107I started 3 days ago, I have absolutely no experience besides 5 YouTube videos, and the only thing I can do (horribly) is the game menu
It's been a few long and painful weeks but I finally got one of the playtesters to play the damn gameThey genuinely like itThis gives me a warm fuzzy feeling
i meant asphalt road
The year 2035, gamers use dumb terminals to connect to a server where they rent hardware to play games that are generated on the fly by AI which provides infinite contentAlso Bokube is getting close to release
>>550696424Beyond Citadel it's a game by a Japanese dev it's already out on steam
>>550695818Because there are many forces at play that are hostile to lewd and I'm putting my best foot forward. Once the dust has settled I will review my options.>>550696424No.
>>550700337Ahh that explains a lot. Are you at least following tutorials. Literlaly the only way I could do stuff at the start. Eventually it just sticks/stuff gets learned. Kinda wish I gave up tho, Im sunk cost with gamedev now
>>550700415>thinks it will take a whole 9 years for AI generated player-personalized games-on-demandtry 9 months
