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DUNKAROO edition

Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Early Access doesn't require a code, hop on!
>NEW UPDATE
Caitlyn is the next 2xko champion!!

>TWO ECKS KAY OH
>>549962906
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>>550874026
i main vi/darius until sett comes out and it'll be vi/sett. but if/when the dunk costume comes out, it'll just be sett/darius lol
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>>550874138
i think dunkmaster would be underwhelming unless they literally fully reanimated his entire character to have the basketball incorporated into all of it + custom voice lines and level 3 animation where he dunks on you desu
i'd still buy it though
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>>550874026
Teemo is BALLING.
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why are combo guides like this:
10 routes doing 10 more or less damage from the same starter, no stated reason to do any of them.
Can't they just be: max damage air throw starter, max damage corner, max damage midscreen, max with super and not bloat things up with unnecessary "that's possible bro" routes.
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>>550876858
it's good to know what's possible because sometimes you'll get a random awkward stray hit and knowing all of the combo parts for your character can be helpful in that regard
but also yeah all the info for this game (and most modern fgs, i find) is so scattered and poorly put together
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Ahri has done literally nothing wrong and doesn't need any nerfs
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>go to leaderboard
>find someone who plays my team so i can learn
>1 out of the 100 plays my team
>check out replay
>replay ends
>it kicks me back to MY overview instead of the guy i was looking at
>have to go back to the leaderboard and find them AFTER EVERY REPLAY
holy mother of fucking god how do you fuck this up
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>>550877661
i'm pretty sure replays are a fairly recent addition with how barebones they are
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>>550878828
>barebones
its been 8 years right?
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>>550877661
I think even if you're looking at your own replays, it kicks you back to the main overview page instead of the replay tab, I think they just set it default to go back to that for some reason
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>>550877661
please understand it was very important to get out all those skins in time
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>>550878923
ikr :/
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Ranked badges are meaningless for how many points you get/lose
I am Master 3, sometimes lose to Diamond 3 still only lose -3? Would be okay if they are like 50 matches Diamond 3 with insane MMR and straight got there or smth but profile says 1k matches Diamond 3 and I get rewarded +9 for beating them???
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>>550878923
technically 10 since Riot bought them back in 2015
>>550878828
pretty sure even they confirmed this, which is frankly insane for a fighting game, that's like one of the core bullet points for fighting games, hell any competitive game in general
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>>550879751
It could also mean your mmr is so trash, they think you're barely any better than diamond 3 so it thinks you're playing at your level
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>>550879751
yeah this game really wants to push you upward

>>550881570
if they're getting -3 +9 for games vs diamonds it probably means the opposite, no? the game wants them pushed up
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no motivation to play tuko
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>>550883846
Tukon.
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>>550883846
Try learning a new character and team, it's what keeps it interesting for me
Soon I'll be able to actually do full random select without it being trolling
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>>550883846
i haven't been playing as much lately and even missed my dailies recently
it's getting tiresome getting fucked by the same boring shit over and over
doesn't matter if the enemy has a dogshit vi/illaoi/braum/vi/darius that they barely know how to play and you kill with 0 effort because they can't play for shit, still going to get 2v1'd by their ekko/ahri/yasuo
arcane fatigue and lackluster patches are also piling up and it's hard to look forward to the future of the game
thread is dead
world is cold
december is truly the worst as an adult lol
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>>550885349
Ive learnt all the character I want and had interest in

>>550885984
This is exactly how I feel. I had so much hope for the game but this dev team have shown that they don't really have a vision for the game. Its kind of a mess with a lacklustre cast and lacklustre features. None of the patches have addressed actual issues and I only ever play against ekko and yasuo. The tournament scene is boring because of ekko and yasuo, ranked is dead because of ekko yasuo, learning tech for this game is just "look at this high damage combo" all style no substance that doesn't reward fighting game fundamentals. They announce a new character that nobody has any hype for. I wanted so much for this game to not be shit and still do
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>>550887501
i do still have fun playing this game and part of it is definitely that i just played it too much too fast but at the same time it's a game i've waited 8 or 9 years for so of course i'd play the fuck out of it
i do still want it to be good and i'm sure it'll get there eventually but the devs just need to stop watching fucking instagram reels at work and DO something
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I've learned that cait jinx is a thing, there really is a ship for everything
If they're going to arcane pander, I hope asian cait will be a skin, white cait is cute and all but its not the same
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>>550887501
sounds like vappa parrot from non player.
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>>550891197
what part of what I wrote makes you think I don't play?
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>None of the patches have addressed actual issues
That's right, riot unjustly nerfed teemo for no reason when he was never an issue and his changes should be reverted in the January patch
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>>550895186
or like yasuo getting kneecapped every 5 weeks. bro wants their character icons to unplug your controller finally implemented on ps5 ports
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>or like yasuo getting kneecapped every 5 weeks
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unironically I can't think of a single game that has had balance patches that people liked
of the games ive played a decent amount, league, street fighter, overwatch, marvel rivals, hearthstone and guilty gear
nobody has ever been happy with a balance patch
It's always the same complaints about them not nerfing enough lol. Maybe balance as a whole is placebo
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Or maybe just don't design overpowered characters that do everything for you and have characters with defined strengths and weaknesses
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>>550897696
you gonna name a game that does that
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>>550897696
>le my character: defined strength and weakness
>le your character: overpowered and does everything for you
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>>550897835
CS has had pretty good gun balance and when there have been broken guns they've been addressed pretty fast, Apex has pretty good balance across its agents, R6 has pretty good operator balance but thats more from my friends experiences, Valorant has fairly good agent balance, sf6 has good character balance but the top tiers are overly dominant because they use the dogshit system mechanics the best which is a core issue of the game - the dogshit system mechanics being so oppressive and dominant in every aspect of the game, UNI2 has pretty good character balance its just a dead game because french bread

>>550898214
I play Ahri Yasuo, I can play a top tier and see that they're broken and badly designed, and state that they are, without it hurting my own self worth and feelings
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>>550899046
>I play Ahri Yasuo, I can play a top tier and see that they're broken and badly designed, and state that they are, without it hurting my own self worth and feelings
king
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Has there ever been a game where the good in high elo characters are actually balanced and isn't wildly swingy between broken and turbo dogshit
Lol has always had problems with this with like ryze and zeri
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>>550874026
incredible how removing the text improves this image
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>>550897316
League has had plenty of great balance patches. Actually, League has phenomenal balancing most of the time, but the community is straight up too retarded to realize.
Late season 9 the game was almost perfectly balanced.
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>>550899046
im not a shooterfag but dont cs and valo just have the same assault rifle + awp meta all the time? Surely the meta hasnt ever become "4/5 players buy a shotgun last guy buys a heavy machine gun" right? I know you can buy any gun and generally have success but Im speaking in terms of game-to-game variance
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>>550902076
i actually agree
Its just that most players are playing their OTP every single game. Then they get counterpicked or outdrafted or ran down and then they go onto a forum and complain that "x character is so broken", then proceed to cry about it every time they dont get nerfed in every patch discussion thread. The world where league players learn how to draft would be a miraculous one
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANOhqtaohDQ
bros...sajam is NOT happy with street fighter
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Bring back juggernaut double fury blitz that Tod's you every round, it didn't deserve nerfs
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>>550903257
sf6 is being left in such an embarrassing state that i almost think capcom is letting it die so they can release a new fg to focus on. the game is so shit that japanese players are actually complaining for the first time since it came out. i think they know there's no fixing it and are abandoning it the instant people noticed it's unsalvageable

>>550901780
yeah it's from like 2008 or some shit
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i am not looking forward to the january patch
i feel like if they finally meaningfully reduce combo length,
the game's going to feel boring for me
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>>550916384
I hope they just nerf the cringe stuff like looping OTG supers and tag launching every combo
Long combos are fine so long as theyre varied but these two things make them all so homogenous
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>>550916495
Removing tag launcher opportunities in more combos would be incredibly dumb, they're hype as fuck in duos launching your friend into the other guy
Pretty sure they want to address some of the bugged scaling moves, Warwick otg pick up in bloodlust currently doesn't scale at all so you can just loop otg bite until you're out of bloodlust no matter the combo length, and they've said the yas super into super is a bugged interaction, and that one super into tag launch combo is too
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>>550916495
>cringe stuff like looping OTG supers and tag launching every combo
bro said 'fuck you in particular'
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>>550917827
>the 4 best characters in the game are the ones that can do this
really activates the ol' almonds...
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>>550916976
cant be letting warwick have a single functioning combo you're right gut his ass immediately
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>>550918848
I think you're the first person I've seen complaining about ww combos, so idk anything about his regular routes, but I'm pretty sure ww rn could gain full bloodlust in a single combo, and then use that entire bloodlust gauge in the same combo doing otg pickups, there is no way that shit is intended
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>>550916976
Besides you want tag launchers to be good to incentivize team building options, people like braum illaoi blitz want to be launched in to set up or run oki
There is also a choice for point tag launching too, ahri for example needs to spend a bar to tag launch someone from a regular hit unless she wants to sacrifice a lot of dmg, compared to like jinx or teemo who can do it meterless fairly easily
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tag launch is cool but it is simply yet another system mechanic that the top tiers use 500x more effectively than the weaker characters. it also makes combos way the fuck longer and do way the fuck more damage without actually costing anything. they should put some type of limitation on them imo.
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>>550902267
if csgo was a fighting game literally everyone would complain that they dont play into shotgun players and only play into awp and AK players yes
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Why are minigun users so oppressed, there's tradeoffs everywhere in our kit and the top tiers abuse system mechanics better than we do wtf
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>get an itch to play csgo again
>awpfaggot in a long corridor
>awpfaggot in a long corridor
>awpfaggot in a long corridor
FIX THE GAME
NEXT PATCH WILL MAKE AWPFAGGOTS NOT BRAINDEAD TOP TIER FOR SURE
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>>550891086
This game needs more asians.
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>>550891086
>there really is a ship for everything
people ship anything with anything
jayce/darius was popular for a bit on tumblr purely because they released close to each other
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good night tuko
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>>550931041
buy a flash
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the saddest part about the hype being dead is no more tuko champion concept art by fans
the fact that riot tried themselves to revive the trend with katarina for it to go nowhere is grim
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>>550897316
everybody liked strive last patch
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Okay I know how to save this game, it might be a bit out there but listen.

3XKO.
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tag launcher shouldn't be possible if the assist is on cooldown and they should increase the cooldown by a couple of seconds
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>>550902267
this is a misunderstanding of how the game works. The gun meta is tied to the economy meta, its not about what guns are prevalent its about what guns are used during certain stages of the game, the team economy, and the utility gained from the gun in things like kill bonuses, mag size, spray patterns, damage, accuracy, all that
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>>550943750
imagine having the privilege of fighting ekko/yasuo/ahri
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>>550944035
sometimes i regret never having be into shooting games, they seem fun. but overwatch and rivals are both so so bad to play as someone who can't aim
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>>550957901
The only shootan worth a shit to someone who has already ascended to fighting games is Quake III.
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>>550957901
tac shooters like cs are probably the most fun I've ever had in competitive games. They have the perfect balance of mechanical skill, game sense, low barrier to entry and high barrier to master. Honestly, whenever I play cs it just reaffirms to me that fighting game devs are actual retards that don't know how to make games and generally just cater to the bottom of the barrel. Imagine explaining throw loops to a cs player, or the drive system and it works, or why fury exists in tuko. They would laugh at you and tell you that you're playing a baby game that's random, and they'd be correct.
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>>550961764
>low barrier to entry
idk the few times ive tried to get into them I got gatekept by my aim
I did some small aim training in valorant and I played a decent amount of ow and mahvel but I think I'm just too retarded to get aiming
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>>550957901
marvel at least you can play someone like Rogue and just run around kicking people
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>>550961764
which European country are you from that leads you to believe that every balancing decision in CS or R6 isn't similarly random gamified bullshit? Real guns and tac ops don't work like your baby games either retard
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>>550962891
aim is like the least of your priorities with tac shooters. As you play more you get a better understanding of headshot level and spray control. What's way more important is utility usage and understanding how/when to use it sometimes with specific line ups sometimes throwing it on the fly to set up fights, your map knowledge, rotations and timings, comms, economy management

>>550963665
I never said game balance is perfect, but if you want you can enlighten me as to game breaking aspects of CS2 that is dominating the meta where unless you play that you wont find as much success
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I think console release will boost tuco. No game ever released pc only especially nipponese are allergic to those
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When I press on play ranked I get stuck in waiting screen for ever but Casual works instant is this the known 1.0.3 issue?
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>>550961764
Tac shooters are boring as shit to play because half the rounds you die early and jerk off for two minutes while you watch your team, or just hold a corner and do fuck all while they just take another point
There's more "neutral" but you're fighting a map most of the time, and the few points of interaction with actual people are a meme because ttk is so low
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>>550968019
literally just a skill issue on your part
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>>550965765
i have this every now and then
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>>550965552
it'll prob help at least a bit. i still see people asking for console release under every new tweet the official account makes
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>>550973138
Not only a bit I think tournaments having a hard time with pc + asians will be huge. That's why it's getting treated like shit rn
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>>550970896
That's their core gameplay loop no? It makes the learning experience genuinely awful since you get so few interactions a round to actually practice fighting people and there's so much downtime between those points and rounds that I have to pretend to give a shit about
If I had to learn a shooter as a noob, it'd be deadlock, at least I can theorycraft builds there and can run around shooting creeps and jg in the downtime
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>>550974584
skill issue and DM is right there and learn the maps and skill issue again
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>console release
>Oh yes. Just like Wild Rift got released on console.
>Just like League got controller support so many years ago.
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>>550975272
they've said multiple times it's coming in january
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>>550975828
ignore him he's into fg for game wars only
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>>550974829
If any of that shit was engaging or the gameplay had anything interesting to theorize about maybe I'd care
Learning the maps in r6 is at least a little better since you can actually interact with it, but ttk makes the gameplay so dry, I fully believe Tac shooters are social games
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>>550943737
i haven't liked strive since they added wild assault
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>>550916976
lol they're really going to say everything is a bug
lmao
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>>550891086
>Grabbing her ass
>>550933027
>jayce/darius was popular for a bit on tumblr purely because they released close to each other
God, women are retarded.
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>>550990181
i get the appeal. a "civilized" scientist superhero-y guy and a big mean brute is a pretty commonly enjoyed dynamic. this was also back before league's lore was rewritten and everything was super mashed together, unlike modern lore where every region's lore is SUPER insulated from each other and you barely have characters from one region even knowing characters from another region exist. so back then you basically just had a bunch of toys and mashed them together however you wanted
nowadays if two characters are from the same region that's enough
of course, a superior option has been there from the very beginning!
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>>550937027
>Nigger has to cheat
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>>550990726
that's what i thought at first but i think the joke's supposed to just be "darius is big and he can't see the blackboard while sitting behind him"
after all he's definitely not gonna get useful answers off of darius' paper lol
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>>550990974
He's trying to see Vladimir's(?)
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>>550991068
yea, that's vlad (the pic is the og group of academy skin characters)
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>>550992004
You're such a nigger faggot for knowing things.
>>550990608
Shut up, faggot.
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>>550992203
obsessed lmao
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>>550992203
>they recognize league skins
Woah I can't believe it
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>>550992440
Tard way to reply.
>>550992686
Yeah, but in a gay way.
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>>550992845
im sorry my response to "faggot" was low effort lol
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>>550993737
You better be, faggot.
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>>550993904
mwah
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>>550994006
Being gay doesn't pay.
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>>550994674
that's true
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>>550964092
>spray control
except for valorant, it's rng there lol
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>>550943737
>>550984540
>Anyone
>Liking Strive
>Ever
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>>550931341
I just like cheekbones
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>>550997357
Date an Eastern European tranny then.
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>caitlyn designer says
>not hitscan and you have to hit your headshots
so is she going to have some kind of free-aim thing? maybe if the gun's aimed enough at the head it counts as a overhead if it's aimed down it's a low?
The idea sounds fun as fuck but if the hitbox is goofy people are gonna be so mad lol
can't wait
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>>551000232
i'd be really shocked if they had anything that elaborate, and considering how differently sized and shaped each character is in this game i really truly do not expect the devs to be competent enough to program something like that to work consistently. they couldn't even make a warwick bnb hit consistently on the entire cast
i'm expecting like, high/low shots, if you hit the opponent standing with a high shot it's a headshot, if you hit the opponent crouching with a low shot it's a headshot, potentially unblockable for shits and giggles. one of her traps will also probably force crouch to facilitate this
might be cool though
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>>551000946
okay that sounds cool and also a lot more realistic yeah
Free aim in fgs should be experimented with more though it's always sick when it's done well
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>>551001250
it's cool to watch but it's so aids to play against lol
i remember checking out rev 2 for a while when it got rollback, fighting a few elphelts, asking for help and being given a literal like 30 page long pdf entitled "how to block vs. elphelt" and i was like nah i'm good hahahaha
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>>550940929
xayah's boobs arent that big.
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>>551001479
not yet... but they will be once she gets impregnated by sett
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Secret charm ending
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>>550997090
biggest in house arcsys success
cope xturder
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>>551009525
>biggest in house arcsys success
Subhumans.
>cope xturder
Subhuman.
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>>551006148
when you parry ahri charm
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>b-b-b-b-ut vi is gonna charge s1 me from full screen!!!!!!
https://x.com/HomeDepotemkin/status/2002828275983544473
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>>551021989
>can release it whenever she wants
>generally has an assist out
>most vi teams handshake while charging and release it while the new point character is running at you
yeah bro this is real counterplay
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>>551022225
Unironically airblocking vi charge in tag out situations would probably help you more so they don't get a free plus situation for their lead
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the fact that you can still do actions WHILE tagging out is fucking retarded
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But have you considered it's cool as fuck though
https://x.com/SuperKawaiiDesu/status/1997257322545266826?s=20
If they did change it to somehow cancel your action on tag, it would make duos actually worse than solos
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>>551026208
it's crazy how this guy straight up doesn't even play the game he just labs this shit
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>>551030716
https://youtu.be/C1XcNH3ih_M?si=SXScNT9j806kotiL
He's played online at least a little bit
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lolg thread is fucked so you guys are gonna have to see my zoe pentakill sorry
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>>551036830
but sajam said the top tiers aren't that good... wtf
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>>551038337
we did it
we gatekept the game so well that now the only people who will talk about it are people who play it
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lol
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>>551038830
>>551037084
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I learned vi counter can actually block a burst, so I think she and ekko are the only people that can dodge bursts on reaction



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