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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>550950737

>* Despite the drama, some brown skinned posters express optimism that the game’s **overall state is improving**.

>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Dev notes 12/20
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11551068

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
Chizuru - Psionic - Void | Ends Dec24
Sereniel - Instinct - Hunter | Starts Dec24 >>>[***LIMITED***]<<<
Narja | Stars Jan14
Nine | Stars Feb4
Tiphera | Stars Feb25

>Current/Upcoming Events
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Ends Jan13
The Great TressaCassiusMika show - Season 1 Phase 1 | Ends Dec24
Chasing the Star's Trajectory - Login Event | 21-day check-in | Ends Jan13

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
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Chaos is a ladder...
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I'm gonna say the word...
META
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me when I call veronica a donkey
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>most cancerous broken as fuck characters finally getting nerfed

>game's issues addressed

>first limited on the horizon full of coom

HOPEGODS HOW THE FUCK ARE WE EATING THIS GOOD?!?!?

IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO WIN THIS FUCKING GODDAMN HARD!!

DOOMKEKS ETERNALLY BTFOO!!!!!
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I need rei.
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>>550973180 (me)
...Is this the dog guy of StS?
what should I do bro?
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What Sereniel best team?
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I spent 370 dollars im this game so far
ans I'm gonn spend much more
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>>550974039
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>>550973982
Your Whirlwind bro?
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>>550974039
this is concerning...
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>>550973587
Stop posting him. It reminds me of how shit Game of Thrones last few seasons were. Even worse than CZN's story.
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>>550973982
>+2 str to all enemies
>no aoe
bwo?
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>>550974213
They were perfectly fine. The Long Night was pure kino.
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FINALLY Tressa and Cassius fags got what they deserved

This is now, once again, MEI and PENISRONICA turf. We RULE here.
Pay your respects or pay with your blood gozaimasu!!!
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I already quit this game and spent 50 dollars on it. Say goodbye to your revenue, Smilegate. Too little too late.
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>>550973982
Kill the little niggas whenever it's reasonable to do.
If you use your flex pot at a good opportunity you can turbo assrape the big nigga. Potions are very very strong so make sure to actually use em, especially on elites/bosses
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>>550974408
>gozaimasu!!!
This would have been a 0/10 post, but you kinda saved it at the end.
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>>550974402
the battle scenes were good, but everything else was shit
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Tressafags HATE this fact!
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>>550973350
Need more Vero feet
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>>550973982
>he didn't bring Yuki
OHNONONONONO
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GET

F

U

C

K

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D

KEKKKKKKKKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>550974408
fuck off meilinbab, you didnt beat the game
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>>550974901
We did, unlike tressissies
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Sign it.
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>>550974462
TY. did that, and it was effective.
The big nigga almost deleted me with 12x3 damage but I killed him that turn.

This is my current deck by the way. I feel pretty strong. I think I'm going to make it
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>>550974213
>It reminds me of how shit Game of Thrones last few seasons were. Even worse than CZN's story.
Calling it worse than CZN's story is a massive stretch. I know people love to shit on the last few seasons, but really it just wasn't long enough. The 2 showrunner dudes wanted to hurry up and finish the project and be done with it. People like to say that Daeneyrs acted out of character or whatever, but she really didn't. She spent the entire show saying that she wants to burn everything to the ground, and the only reason she didn't is because she had the bald eunuch or the midget always telling her that it's not smart to burn everything to the ground. So it's really not surprised and is perfectly within her character that she goes and burns everything to the ground as soon as no one is around to tell her that it's a bad idea.
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Tressa raped that anon's mother it seems.
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>>550974901
>TCMfag getting uppity

NERFS INCOMING LMFAOOOOO
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>>550974901
>tressissy / kekius whining that he'll never score again
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>>550974408
>>550974548
>MeiLindogs getting uppity again
Who owns you again?
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you guys know that 1 year from now we will be dealing 25,000 damage per hit
and normal mobs will jave 1,700,000 hp right?
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>>550974895
Nyo... tressabros... our bad luck...
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>FINALLY Tressa and Cassius fags got what they deserved
Next leaderboard boss in a few days won't be abusable by TCM and as such the second broken unit in the game will be abused, guess who that is?
By the time TCM is removed Mei will also be on the chopping block.
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Tressa should just have sex with me for good luck
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name one bad thing about Sereniel
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>>550974968
Where's the box for "I like a varied meta"
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>>550975316
>anon still doesn't know how this meme works
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>>550975141
I think that's a 2 or 3 year range. Keep in mind, SmileGate isn't powercreeping anything, they're nerfing stuff. They're not even buffing anything. So what if Yuki will eventually have a gimped single-target build. That's a sidegrade and allows her to function in one-enemy content like boss shit. They're gonna spend at least 6 months nerfing all the good stuff while introducing only very minimal powercreep, if any at all. They are trying to reestablish a baseline power level, because no one on the current dev team plays the game. They have no idea what they're doing.
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>>550972460
There's a bunch of gacha with 5+ or even 10+ years without pvp/leaderboard, this system is unnecessary if the core gameplay is good enough. If your contrapositive argument is that this game has no longevity with its current gameplay, then I agree, but TCM has nothing to do with that. Just watch how their nerf will make another broken team appear.

This anon >>550972457, for example, will use whatever next team shows up because he can’t play anything that isn’t meta.
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>>550975340
Is it normal to get mind controlled by her tits? I start looking at them and my mind goes blank.
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>>550975316
Stop posting your misuse of this meme format
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>>550975410
This meme works how i want it to work.
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So do they get reseted to level 1 with nothing leveled up or do we just get an entire free character in resources?
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>there is actually one (1) retard who is just spamming posts from the previous thread, saying things he doesn't understand, shitpost celebrating the eventual TCM nerf, and he clearly doesn't actually know anything about this game
...why would someone do this?
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>>550975654
The former.
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>>550975340
she's too naked
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>>550975440
>Keep in mind, SmileGate isn't powercreeping anything, they're nerfing stuff. They're not even buffing anything.
If that's actually what they do it's BASED and you have no idea how that is infinitely better than buffing shit. Just play any modern fighting game
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>>550975654
Apparently, in cases where "changes" are extreme, they will provide a character reset token.
However, they could very well decide that the changes with Tressa and/or Cassius are not extreme enough to warrant a token.
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>>550975340
She's not out yet.
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Too many big booba girls
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>>550975457
I'm that anon, and I only used TCM in the leaderboard mode. If you don't care about challenging yourself on the hardest content and doing the best you can then that's fine for you. But some of us care about that. And while we're doing that we'd like to use some creativity, not the same team every season.
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>>550975804
You gotta read the entire post, guy. Powercreep is absolutely going to happen, I just think they're gonna spend the first 6 months or so nerfing all the good stuff and then "starting over" with the new 5* units they're trying to sell. Once all the good stuff is nerfed and everyone is now required to pull the banner units, that's when they'll start the power creep.
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>>550975340
ass not fat enough
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>>550975002
hows it going
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>>550975654
In ebin seben they would let you reset the character and extract whatever resources you put in.
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it's retarded that scarlet is the signature partner for rin but also the bis partner for mei lin
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>>550975815
E7 retard here
They will give a character reset if they ever touch a character in any way whatsoever that isnt a straight up buff.
Even changing how a skill works slightly ends up with a full refund.

They dont fuck around with nerfs, they have plenty of experience.
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>>550976053
Both get anal gapped by Douglas
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>>550975990
Just don't use the meta team, retard.
>oh but then I'll not have higher scores!!
Are you playing for the challenge or competing with other players? Sm.h...
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Tressa did nothing wrong.
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>>550976006
I actually got banned here for "spamming" because you reposted an AI version of something that I posted. That's fucked up, but I don't blame you for it, I blame the janny and mods.
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>>550975671
And I keep replying to them like the fool that I am
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>>550976182
she didnt suck my dick yet, deserves nerfs
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>[Deleted]
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>>550975654
Full refund of potentials, xp, uncap mats and save data. But that's still far away, at the start of Season 2.
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>deletes his post
pussy
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>>550975671
>...why would someone do this?
mental illness
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>>550976172
Competing with other players is the challenge, though? That's the whole point of that mode?
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>>550976351
hastetard kys
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>>550976351
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We're back
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>>550976039
Right before the boss.
I go all in on Perfected Strike. Is this good or I am cooked?
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>nerfs already
LOL what a bunch of out of touch chinks, enjoy your negative revenue and 24-hour threads.
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I'm so fucking boreddddddddd
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>>550976243
Sounds like a (You) issue.
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>>550975340
>>550975881
>tfw serenial legitimately revitalized my interest in the game only for the nerfs to instantly kill my interest once again
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hi reminder that Nia is probably a skinwalker/alter/mimic/visitor
none of her behavior or reactions are human in the slightest
there is not a person or a soul behind those eyes
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>>550976512
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>[Deleted] again
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>>550975340
blatant fanservice have no place in this game this is not brown dust, it's going to drive players away from the game as reddit and x are already complaining about it
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>>550976380
Then just admit it you're a metaslaver who'll play only the optimal team to show off in a mode that's intended for whales because the devs are incompetent.
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>>550976721
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>>550975141
Yeah, I love number go up in my Korean games.
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>>550976628
just look at her tooth

she's a rodent
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>>550976628
>none of her behavior or reactions are human in the slightest
How so?
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>>550976820
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If im getting this duped Im just gonna cut the upgrade
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>>550976721
>blatant fanservice has no place in a game where 70% of the female characters dress like hookers
Here's your (You). I know you desperately need it.
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>>550976726
I'll admit that I actually have to go do something meaningful now and am forced to stop myself from wasting time replying to you.
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>>550976527
that boss scales with powers
you have no powers
if you had no trouble until now you should be good
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>>550976721
well anon guess what
it will pull more players than it loses

the puritans who hate looking at hot women are an extreme minority
meanwhile the straight people who just like to see huge tits are 80% of the gacha players

its even more silly when you realize that this is a self inflicted wound, literally just dont use the lobby and you dont engage with it
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>>550976721
Too weak.
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>post yfw you didn't invest in T*essa
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It's a new week time to do your 4 chaos run
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>>550977069
>the puritans who hate looking at hot women are an extreme minority
They are actually, completely unironically, gay Indian men who can't even play this game because India is rangebanned.
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I'm just unable to play a game unless it has fan service in it

I guess I played Silksong but that also has a scene with naked Hornet
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>>550977018
>I lost the discussion but I still want the last word
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magna is literally so shit it's beyond INSANE
she is E2 too
literally the worst CZN
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>>550977140
Tressafags BTFO

KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>550977140
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Any chance of other characters potential adjustment? Especially 5* like Orlea and Rin
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>>550976527
That's an awful deck but I'm assuming you're playing on ascension 0 and that boss is anti-power which you don't have so it's gonna be fine.
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>>550977260
that's funny she was considered must pull month 1
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I really don't get people being upset about the nerfs. Either TCM is the absolute only meta till EOS and you play those long battles over and over, or the entire game's design is warped around them (powercreep so everyone has near-infinite combos, huge debuffs on bosses that kill other things in the process), or they nerf.

Sure, the fact that they were designed this way in the first place is concerning, but should we really throw game balance out the window so people don't get upset about nerfs, especially to free characters?? This is coming from someone who built all three of TCM btw. I had fun while it lasted, and I'm happy that I'll play something different next season.
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My best Orlea save yet
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>>550977260
Instead of nerfing Tressa they should be buffing characters like Magna.
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>>550977584
they should do both
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>>550977240
No that's what you just did, that was me trying to end this pointless conversation cause you don't actually consider what I say, it's a waste of time, and I have places to be. Go ahead and reply again and take the last word, it's yours.
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>>550977260
She can make a decent debuff bot, but it requires a lot of investment, and probably isnt as worth it compared to just bringing another dps.
Being able to apply stacks of vulnerable and weakened, assuming you have the trinket, is nice.
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>>550977661
>I have something important to do so I'll write a paragraph
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>>550977584
She will probably get a corruption alt like Orlea/Hugo
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>Tressa nerfed

What are they doing to this clearly busted (metaphorically, aesthetically and mechanically) whore? now?

Did dev finally pull head out of ass and nerf shadow reload?

Good and healthy for the game if so. Might even give it another chance if so.
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>>550977661
lmao
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Who's a good cope partner for Sereniel?
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>>550977661
Lmao what a faggot
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>>550977661
Yep, this guy won.

>>550977697
You lost, deal with it, loser.
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>>550977661
I thought you had something meaningful to do, yet here you are still replying
TOP KEK
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>>550976553
>chinks
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>tfw anti-Mei Lin boss mechanics followed by announcement of Tressa and Casisus nerfs
>1 month after the game launched btw
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>>550977893
wtf this bitch already has AIslop?
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>4channer
>having something meaningful to do
lol
lmao even
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>>550976553
sadly niggers like you make the threads uncomfortable fast because of the nerfs
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>>550976601
>Pull for who you like
>Do bare minimum
>Ignore all meta and SEA pvp autism
GZ you can now enjoy the shit game. That's how i've been playing AL for 7 years.
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>>550977425
It is done. Thank you.
This me whooping is ass : https://files.catbox.moe/6a7h79.mp4
(please ignore jesus's voice/stream in the background)
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>>550978016
someone from the thread made it
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>>550977815
If she likes crit akad, if not unironically the 3* is better
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>>550977921
>MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY

Tressafags are low INT, but what else is new...
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the problem with mei lin is that she is way too simplistic and easy to use
she is an unga bunga gorilla type of characrer akin to King in Tekken
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>>550977260
I havent tried this deck out in actual boss modes but a permanent debuff and decent shielding SEEMS like it would be good. I just run her with khalipe and orphea while she charges a nuke.
Speaking of orlea did they ever say anything about her changes?
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>>550976721
You tell them sister!!!
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>>550978198
I wish it was a fallacy. If you're a zoomer you wouldn't understand.
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>>550978240
>2AP
>2AP
>2AP
you need to generate AP with her somehow
and your deck is only good with the auto cast lead trinket
also no counter attack to all enemies in your deck
i hate counter attack and i hate how bad she is
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imagine if the nerf is turning tressa into a partner...
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>>550978240
All we have is her art >>550976635, which from an educated guess we won't be seeing the usual slimes Softie/Swiftie/Toughie anymore, but since she's still instinct she will probably still do something related to hand size manipulation
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>>550977815
if bullets
R4/5 Akad >>> R5 Yuri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R5 Carroty > R0 Akad
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>>550978016
AI gen stuffs are so convenient and easy to use now, nothing is sacred, sloppa can be trained on everything by some random anon.
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>>550978016
yes
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>>550978358
They'd look far better with some actual combat gear on.

This is just cheap whores for the sake of selling sex appeal in vain hopes of cashing in on lonely incels.
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>>550978358
Is it the medium length black hair?
Is Maribel any fun? I dont have her or the bunny girl yet.
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>my problem is nerfs in general
>fixing a completely broken damage combo that is impossible to balance around is le bad
>making a character that was designed primarily around deck and hand control to serve their actual niche instead of an infinite scaling machine that just so happens to also draw cards is le bad

Kys. Actually though.
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>>550978016
Yeah, I genned it because I want to sex Tiphera.
https://files.catbox.moe/r1wg52.jpg
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>>550978629
dont you have a minotaur milking book to read
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>>550977260
>>550978240
Reminder that they mentioned a new end game modes that doesn't have turn limit, long and stress carry over. We could get away with healers before because stress was a nothing burger after you got pass the stat check, but expect shielders like Khalipe and Magna to become relevant once healers can't keep up, and your breakdowns are getting 10-11 cards
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Is middle the best?
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>>550978614
Full please...
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>>550979021
Don't you have a girlfriend to spend time with OH WAIT LMAO
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>>550979114
Restart.
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>>550976721
Faggot
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>>550979114
All shit. You want the one that stacks with passion cards.
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>>550979169
What version of the card would I be aiming for?
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>>550978671
She's kinda slow tempo character and doesn't provide much of anything, at least Khalipe and Magna can spam Vulnerable. Will definitely get mindbroken twice if you bring her to Chaos because of stress/turn.
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>>550979287
+1 hit for each passion card used this turn
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>>550978814
based
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>>550979287
For Mei Lin you need this:
>>550979261
>>550979330
And at least 3 copies of the "Move Basic cards to hand".
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>SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP
>mmmm delicious smilegeito-sama, what is the name of this delectable dish?
>powercreep and P2W
>SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP DELICIOUS IT TASTES LIKE MY OWN FARTS...LIKE SHIT!
>PRAISE VISHNU!!!
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>>550979518
Babby's first gacha?
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>>550977260
>worst CZN
your Maribell?
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>complaining about p2w
>in a fucking gacha game
you lost lil unc?
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>>550979462
Just the correct epiphanies is fine for most content, you dont "need" 3 copies
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>sereniel's partner is a must roll because the alternatives are going to be so much worse
this cow is going to milk me dry
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>>550979610
I can see two clear reasons why she's one of the best CZNs
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9518
retard
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>>550979114
The disparity between this card's best and second best epiphany is insane. And some dumb fucks will really say most characters have multiple builds.
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has anyone done this yet
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>>550979610
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo_H7uAyNBE
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Just looked at all the sloppa anon made of her some threads ago
That's some really good sloppa thank you
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>>550979794
I'm glad the only mode that actually gives you decent rewards is fucking easy
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>>550979114
second one is fine for chaos clears
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>>550979712
partners are whale bait
if you're ftp you probably shouldn't be rolling for partners
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>>550979635
>game is only p2w because the devs nerfed all the f2p stuff
This is the issue.

And on that topic, how fucked up do the devs have to be to stop giving out the free Amir?
Why even make that a limited time thing? It's not like she's even good.
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>>550979146
https://files.catbox.moe/dlocjr.jpg
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im trying build maribel but it feels like theres nothing to trim plus so many neutral cards you need to stack on her. i still cant quite figure out how to play her
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>Why are you calling direct nerfs "rebalancing"
Because they're unironic paid SmileGate shills.

>Nobody's getting buffed to compensate the nerfs, they aren't buffing shitty 5* like Magna either. They aren't balancing shit, they're just nerfing what will make them lose money in the long term
Correct. If they never release another counter attack unit, Magna is never getting buffed. They don't play their own game. In order for Magna to get buffed, it will require them to release a counter attack unit, and then that counter attack unit will need to suck at their own shilled fight, which they absolutely will. Then once that happens, counter attacks will be buffed. Magna wont be buffed, counter attacks will be turned into Extra Attacks or something, but Magna will benefit from this. And that will only happen because they release another shitty 5* unit somewhere in the future.

And guess what? When that happens, the units who beat the shitty 5* at their own shill fight are going to get nerfed! Isn't it amazing?
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>>550977260
Post your Magna stats and potential
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>>550980123
post your rift score
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how do you get the special death animations?
every time I die to a boss it's just a generic "everyone downed" then to the results screen?
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>the schizoid is back regurgitating the same shit from past thread and projecting even harder
>but what if they do this
>but what about this
>but in the future they will surely do this

how do you call this
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Babies gonna cry and in the end it won't matter because the decision's already been made for the good of the game. Cope and seethe more.
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>>550980306
enable Deep Trauma
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>>550980543
oh I should try that
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>>550979932
Thank you
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Enjoy your moment while you can, brownoids, you'll be back to 20 hour threads in a week.
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>>550980306
You are playing on easy mode.
The way the game is meant to be played is Deep Trauma mode.
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>he brought Westmascott
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>>550979917
b-but limited...
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>>550976721
homoreddit complain more about the lack of husbando's dicks to suck
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>>550980631
doubtful, you will still be here seething a week from now
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>>550980717
A literal cripple!
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>>550974625
Let's see Paul Allan's non-Tressa high score
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>Tressafags shitting up the thread again

Gosh you're insufferable. I don't care because it's irrelevant to the main topic.
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reddit is literally celebrating being a gooner game tho and telling people to fuck off if they want males
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>>550979575
A game that prides itself on its gameplay shouldn't take powercreep like it's a good thing because it happens to everyone.
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>>550980335
It's "copycuck" just copy and pasting posts from the previous thread. They aren't even his own posts. I don't even think he plays this game.
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>>550975340
I can't see her pubes
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>>550980894
The content is irrelevant. It's the foundations that matter. It's a gacha game. It's meant to be this way. If you don't like it, go play World of Warcraft.
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>>550980789
All of your recent threads were like 15 hours, it won't be getting better, and yes I will be coming in occasionally to poke at brownoids like yourself.
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>>550980123
Your arguments are all rather speculative. Yes, if they constantly nerf to sell banner units, that will be a problem. But as a meta player I'm happy that I won't be only playing TCM for the rest of the game's lifespan. I'd probably quit desu, it feels fun but not lastingly so. You can argue it sets a precedent, but if the alternative is letting TCM be and, imo, ruining the game, that's seems worth it to me.

Btw they said they're buffing the healing capabilities of non-Mika healers and under-picked common cards, so no, they will buff at least some non-banner bad things.
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I apologize for being too strong
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>>550981145
>WAKU WAKU MEI LIN-CHAN
>LET'S PLAY THE EVENT AND SEE WHO GETS THE HIGHEST SCORE
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Paid shills going overdrive today, I see
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>>550981136
>Your arguments are all rather speculative.
My arguments are predicated on detecting a trend.

>Yes, if they constantly nerf to sell banner units, that will be a problem.
That's what is happening though. They already did an emergency nerf to Mei Lin via the boss mechanics. You can expect that nerf to go live to the character herself. Tressa and Cassius being mentioned by name doesn't mean they're the only units getting nerfs.

>You can argue it sets a precedent
It continues a precedent that began when they nerfed Mei Lin. It's not setting a precedent, it's continuing a trend.

>so no, they will buff at least some non-banner bad things.
You're far too hopeful and trusting. Owen is never getting a buff. Maribell is never getting a buff. Amir is never getting a buff. They might buff mechanics which those characters can benefit from, but they do not care about balance, they care about nerfing good characters and buffing bad banner characters.
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>>550980813
Paul ALLEN. At least get it right, you izzat brownoid.
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>>550981136
>fun thing getting nerfed is a good thing actually because I'm mentally ill and I feel a compulsion to only play the strongest thing in the game at any given moment
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>>550981341
I like how stupid you are.
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>>550980813
>>550981325
His name... was Paul Allen...
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Which Chizuru foil looks the best?
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>>550981298
>>550981341
And you're being too pessimistic imo. Like I've said before, Mei Lin boss nerf isn't the same thing as a permanent nerf, and honestly it's also somewhat justified, she's overtuned and would work better against the boss than the unit the boss was designed to sell.

Meta diversity is important for fun and creativity. TCM nerfs appear to facilitate that rather than selling any particular unit or set of units, and temporary nerfs on a boss to a unit that would outshine the unit the boss was designed for seems reasonable to me (not to mention Mei Lin is still really strong against that boss anyways). Also, nerfs are more vital to meta diversity than buffs (I'd rather 50% of the roster be viable than 10%).
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>>550979638
You do need.
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I apologize for having waaay too much titty
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>>550981642
just look at this soulless coomslop
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>spend 10+ hours farming chains
>spend over an hour for each boss run
>lagging the entire time due to agony stacks
>spend all protos skill currency to save scum for full house
Playing TCM at high level is only fun in your imagination. This shit needs to be nerfed yesterday.
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wow /czn/ did not improve even after the stream
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>>550981492
>>550981325
I mean the other guy, I think he's on a holyday trip to France
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>>550981541
>muh diverse meta
Meta means "most effective tactic available", if the meta is just the banner unit then it's fucking retarded. There will always be one team beating all the rest. This argument has always been retarded for gachas.
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>>550981763
What the actual fuck is that first team
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The problem isn't TCM.
The problem is the faggot ladder.
And this problem is never going to get solved so pack it up boys.
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>>550981541
>and would work better against the boss than the unit the boss was designed to sell
So you do understand the nerf is purely to appeal to paypigs and not to "protect" the game's balance, right?
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>>550981908
the first team doesnt matter as long as you can clear the boss
the 2nd team is the cheese with hour long turns that gets the points
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>>550981934
Shinobu's right this time.
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Guilds soon btw
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>>550981908
breasts
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>>550981908
This plus 2 empties
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>>550982147
Khalipegod...
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>>550981856
>meta means "most effective tactic available"
zoomers were massive mistake for the internet
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>>550981934
This. The only reason ""people"" are mad about this team is because it enables f2poors to get too much close to paypigs on the only place they can show off.
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>>550981934
Yup they will keep catering to ladderfags now to see who can drink the most cum. That became the future of the game the moment they added this faggotry.
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meta means when the girl in the porn videogame refers to (You) the player and starts deleting files
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Wtf, am I having deja vu? I feel like I've read these same exact posts in the same exact reply chain.
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Wtf, am I having deja vu? I feel like I've read these same exact posts in the same exact reply chain.
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it was never about 1 team being the best
it was about that 1 team being the best and also being the most obnoxious gamebreaking slog to build and every boss run taking 50+ minutes with endless gamebreaking interactions and ever rising leaderboard score
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>>550982585
META
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Izzat farming hours until their work in sweatshops and wet markets
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>>550982634
>reddit humour
kys
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>>550982356
>be f2poor
>be on leaderboard
>still don't like it
if you say so anon
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>>550981934
Cannot disagree, and it only will get worse as they add more game modes and more ladders. It's gonna become unbearable cancer of a gameloop. This was the biggest reason I quit nikke too.
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>>550982751
Nobody cares about you, illiterate.
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>people ITT doesn't understand basic human psychology
Can't wait for the next meta team everybody will copy.
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I have more hopes for this game than during the same period for gfl2
look at that pile pf dog shit after 1 year
bumsmoke is still the only endgame mode
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I think the devs finally found the sweatspot
Just like e7 have smooth transition on ult animation, they finally did the smoothest yet with sereniel not moving from dangling position of when you select a card
We need more that start from that point going forward, BATTOU and Chizuru were a mistake
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basic human psychology is booba hot me spend money
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>>550982909
Lots of people do actually
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>>550982353
>meta wasn't actually an acronym
I mean I knew metagaming was a term but I thought the acronym came first
Either way you know what I meant, no one cares about the leaderboards except people that wank their e-peen. One person using TCM cheese doesn't affect another.
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Guys, stop giving him (You)s. Like half the posts in this thread are literally some faggot copy and pasting posts from the previous thread.
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blablabla
wall of text
brainless rambling
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>>550982969
well good changes are coming
slowly. but they are. at least we know they are there
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>>550983052
Kill yourself and do everyone a favor.
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>>550981934
The ladder where your only reward for scoring high is a fucking sticker? Give me one reason to care.
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>550983223
Meds
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Got yuki from standard banner. Should I build her or just start farming for sereniel? I'd love to play both but I'm out of mats
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>>550983058
metagaming refers to something different
it means using data, tactics and information that goes beyond the game to optimize it
an example would be if you knew your friend always used the same opener word in wordle, and posted his results
you now have unintended info, knowing that day's potentially correct letters beforehand
it's not always the most effective tactic since it could be something only few people have access to, or is time sensitive
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>"mwahaha... now that TCM and Mei Lin are nerfed, the leaderboard will all be completely different teams, not dictated by any fake metric like power level or wallet power or artifact/deck RNG, but rather by each individual player's dedication to the characters, to the game, and to their teams!"
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Even hoyo generals have better posters than this.
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>>550983508
i know, i thought they derived the term "meta" from it. like a word that means completely different from its prior, unshortened form. i don't know if there's a term for such a word though.
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nobody believes that retard
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>>550983645
the posters come from there
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>>550983415
Because the ladder is the only reason TCM is getting nerfed and this trend will continue.
Even if (You) don't care about the sticker and the ranking, it will keep having a direct effect on you and your characters.
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>>550982793
Yeah, Nikke was an unbearable fucking chore simulator of endgame trash. Holy fuck. I quit for the same reason and I can already feel myself slipping with CZN. I do miss my wife though.
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>>550983579
There will always be an optimal build, but it doesn't have to be the same build every single season for every single boss.
Isn't that what you doomers were complaining about before? Having to farm the same save data every season?
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>>550983802
>i hate playing games
>i am the ultimate gachanigger
>pander to me
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>>550983415
The ladder is literally the reason why "people" (aka subsaharan spear chucking niggers) are clamoring for their nerfs.
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doing chores =/= playing the game
I thought we established that when they removed dailies from games like the finals
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>>550981642
Just look at this cultured coomkino.
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Do I have this right?

>Basic - default plain jane attack/defends
>Common - cards you can add to your deck that aren't character specific
>Unique - special character cards that aren't the first four cards for each character. Also, cards created by other cards, like Tressa's daggers?
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>>550983803
>Isn't that what you doomers were complaining about before? Having to farm the same save data every season?
I guess you're right. Now we'll only have to farm the same save data for the same character ever season, until that character gets nerfed or until they release a new meta replacement unit.
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>>550984024
basic - white card name
common - neutrals and luke's bullets
unique - all other cards
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>>550981642
How did she even get to this situation?
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>>550984024
The character's fourth starting card is considered a unique (not Unique-tagged) card.
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>>550984161
Renoa prepared her for me
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>>550983883
>>i hate playing games
False.
>>i am the ultimate gachanigger
I'm only playing CZN, and before that I hadn't played a gacha in over a year.
>>pander to me
I don't want to spend all of my game time playing the same one gacha, anon.
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>>550983785
>improving the game's balance
That sounds like a good thing tho
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>>550984017
Farming sims requires 1000 IQ such as mine and if you want sweep then it's because you're too dumb to appreciate the deep and complex gameplay it requires.
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>>550982095
I want to kiss those buttcheeks
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>>550984339
No one would give a shit about the """game's balance""" were it not for the ladder as evidenced by the fact that no one gave a shit about it until the ladder got added.
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Lo and behold, it's Christmas.
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>>550984017
The issue is gachaniggers can and do call anything other than log in > sweep > log out a chore
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>>550984495
finally a good post
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>>550982095
I miss my loliconcon Shinobufag.
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>>550984547
I did.
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>>550984495
I want to lick in between them.
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>>550984549
Yep, it's Christmas.
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Wait, if Sereniel is one of the most powerful Terrascion combatants and, judging from her PV, she's not completely mentally stable, she can fuck the captain right here and there, and Renoa can do NOTHING about it. She can't even seethe too loud unless she doesn't mind being "accidentally" cut in half by a fucking laser.

BASED BASED BASED, THE GAME IS SAVED
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>>550984732
No, you did not.
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>>550984017
Doing Simulation stages is PEAK gameplay and if you don't agree you should just uninstall.
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no codes?
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>>550982095
I want to kiss those feet
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What's the word on the new girl?
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>>550984764
lord GODron would protect my chastity
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Which one looks best? Oni Hunt could be interesting but maybe it's Tsukuyomi instead
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>>550985206
Sucks homeless cock for fun.
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>>550984547
It's pretty funny. HuGODs sure got quiet when it was unquestionably proven that Cassius was the best partner for Tressa the entire time, but their judgement was clouded because they are gay furries. Now all of a sudden we need to nerf the funny robot magician.
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I NEED FUCKING NEW SHIT ALREADY
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>>550985269
Karmic Flames and/or Tsukuyomi first.
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>>550983456
we dunno how good sereniel is
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What is Beryl's Expose Weakness? Her final potential mentions it but I don't see it as a card or text on a card. Is it the attack that she does at the end of a round?
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>>550985269
Always get the one where the girl is appearing, obviously.
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Nerfing TCM won't make your Harubrick good.
Nerfing TCM won't make your Yukibrick good.
Nerfing TCM won't make your Chizurubrick good.
Nerfing TCM won't make you Serenielbrick good.
The current devs are incapable of making good or fun decks.
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Sup niggers, I just heard the news.
I quit the game the moment they announced the ladder mode.

I'm just dropping by to tell you I told you so and to laugh at you.
LOL
LMAO
ROFLMAO

Enjoy the rest of the game revolving around letting whales show off.
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>>550985801
cute picture of my second wife
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>>550985820
Actually, we're hopechadding about the changes. We like this.
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>f2p browns from singapoor still crying that their go-to team they grinded for 200 hours for is finally getting nerfed
>mfw
Just uninstall, you are pathetic
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>>550985269
Can't you check out the animated cards on the czn website? Unless chizuru hasn't been added yet
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>>550985801
They made TCM though?
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>>550985998
There is zero chance that whoever made the base game is still making the current game.
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>>550985975
let me guess
you spent 20 dollars and you don't consider yourself f2poor anymore
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>>550986084
On the contrary, there is actually a nonzero chance
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>>550986084
retard
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>>550986142
Not even. It's just a literal pajeet shill.
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>>550986142
>>550986312
Damn u mad as fuck kek
Your f2poor team is done.
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>>550986084
Why do you say these things with such strong conviction without a shred of hard evidence?
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>>550986413
where to find pics like this for all characters
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>>550986449
because only pathetic sad sacks of shit in the british government care about holding people accountable for things they say on the internet
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>>550986449
doomtards always lose
they never have METRICS
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>>550986449
>>550986226
>>550986193
>>550986614
>>550986665
The current game and new characters are nothing like the base game and launch characters. Can you guys not feel the difference?
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>>550986665
OG doomKINGS got every demand met
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>>550986704
nigger
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>>550983415
stickers are some of the best things in this game
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>>550986704
giganigger
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>>550986704
What you feel and what is real are two separate things.
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>>550986704
I can't. Explain it.
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>>550986765
>>550986817
>>550986910
>>550987067
Wow, this post seems to have gotten a lot of traction. I guess there are many people who feel like the new characters feel like the old characters. Never mind the fact that they are nerfing the old characters and have promised buffs to the new character. That's entirely unrelated.
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>>550987272
>buffs Hugo
>buffs Orlea
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>>550986518
Dunno, that is specifically from this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prv7WTCk4Gs

I've seen them on Reddit before but probably from different people.
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>>550987272
I'm not talking about characters, you deflecting monkey. Unless you can prove that staff has changed, shut the fuck up and stop making up lies.
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>>550987598
Corruption is an eventuality for all characters, and one of the devs loves Orlea, right? Your shitpost doesn't even make any sense because Hugo is one of the better characters.
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>>550987801
>I'm not talking about characters, you deflecting monkey.
Who do you think designs the characters, retard? AI?
Actually, that might be what's happening now.
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>550987272
>this post seems to have gotten a lot of traction
KEK what a faggot
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>>550985582
Opening Found mistranslation
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>>550987869
>new characters are different from old characters because new characters are getting buffed
>old characters are getting buffed too
>that doesn't count
kek ok Anon
Yes, the best old characters are different from the worst new characters. I guess they're made by completely different devs.
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i prefere faggots over a lot of other posters here
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>>550988441
>>new characters are different from old characters because new characters are getting buffed
>>old characters are getting buffed too
>>that doesn't count
>kek ok Anon
Are you being retarded on purpose? Yuki is getting buffed. A base Yuki buff. Really I think it's just going to be a sidegrade because they previously said the only thing they're looking at is giving her a dedicated single target option. The fact remains that Yuki is so "bad" that they are buffing her.

Corruption is a new mechanic and/or skill tree or whatever it is that everyone will get eventually. That's not a buff to base Orlea.
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>>550981934
where is the shinobuanon webm poster when you need him
sigh...
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>>550988667
First gacha? Corruption will be good on bad characters and meaningless on good characters. It's just a way to rebalance the roster.
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For Khalipe am I better off with the +20% damage when 4+ cards or +20% crit chance with 2 cost cards? I didn't learn math so I don't know if it's better to do a little more damage more often or a lot more damage less often.
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>>550988902
That's entirely speculation, but whatever it is, Yuki is so "bad" that she's getting a buff to base Yuki, outside of Corruption. Tressa and Cassius (and probably Mei Lin) are getting nerfed outside of Corruption.
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we knew you were gay
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>>550988390
That makes sense. Thanks man.
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Anyone in the 1000s rank for the leaderboard that's still top 1%?
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>none of the bp partners are meta for any combatant
lul nice scam
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>>550987272
much feelings
such concern
chaos zero metrics
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>Nerfs
Your game is shit, back to wuwa.
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>+20% damage when 4+ cards or +20% crit chance with 2 cost cards
Are these weapons? Neither of these exist. Mutant predator spike is +30% damage with 4+ cards and sun setting bow is +30% damage when using a 2 cost card (once per turn). Predator spike is better.
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>>550991221
for >>550988918
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>>550988918
Justice is better for her, ironically
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>>550973350
Veronica's smelly cheese farts...
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>>550988294
>Edit: Wow, I never got so many replies! I just wanted to say thank you SO much! This means a lot to me. Ever since my dog died I've been feeling extremely lonely but being noticed like this has really helped me feel less alone. Thank you!
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>>550984764
Renoa is such a beautiful cuckqueen.
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>>550990680
For me it's DNA. It's been taking up most of my time anyways.
I have like 45k crystals and 200 purple rolls so I will probably blow most of that on Sereniel, have some fun with her and then drop the game for good.
I won't bother with a game that only exists for whalefags to wank themselves.
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>>550992084
>picking nyx first
You don't deserve her
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>>550992225
>DNA
I can't imagine anybody that isn't a neet to waste time on this boring grindfest.
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what's the point of these
those are not options, those are chores
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>>550992227
Nyx is sexier.
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>>550992410
I'm not going to deny that it is boring at the moment but I choose to believe in it thanks to the strong Warframe foundation.
The devs just need to distance themselves more and more from mobile and gacha practices to turn it into a real game.
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>>550992660
Nothing, purely bragging rights.
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>whales are better than f2p in this gacha

whos gonna tell him
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>>550992084
I wish I used Renoa or Luke just so I could use Serithea.
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>>550992909
yuki is better for renoa anyways
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>>550992084
How many years until playable Serithea?
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>>550990680
Are they really nerfing characters?
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>5 months and 5 paid battle passes to max one (1) dragon partner
>nyx is the only one worth using at 1 copy and she's not even meta
lol lmao
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>>550992660
>what's the point of these, those are not options, those are chores

you are not gonna believe it
people play deckbuilders with handicaps to make it more fun and challenging for themselves
just grab your 6/9 full rewards and move on
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Let's go finally managed to break 900k without using that ugly glasses bitch. Wish I had the patience to grind chains, I would try to enter the top 100 if I did.
I love Orlea.
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>>550993182
Based pube nun appreciator
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>>550993135
>this snobbish faggot believes hes better than anyone else
LMFAO
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>>550993135
those don't have this on them
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>>550992828
Arknights has proven a long time ago that whalewanking is a meme business strategy.
It has:
>no weapon gacha
>insignificant dupes
>a respectable base SSR rate of 2%
>a fantastic scaling pity system that starts at 50 rolls increasing the SSR rate by 2% with each subsequent roll that averages a 6-star in 60-70 rolls
>no ranking or any even remotely competitive mode
>has several extra game modes that are purely made for fun
And it's doing better than CZN ever will with its whalewanking. Good luck.
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Is Khalipe worth my free selector? She seems to be the only good shielder right now but I'm worried the next one introduced will immediately replace her. I do like her design though.
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>>550993801
>the nerf crybabies are Arkfurfags

HOLY SHIT THIS MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE KEK
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People are gonna regret it man, TCM was actually fun and something to tryhard at, the next great rift of season 2 will be boring as fuck
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Nerf Tressa and I quit
plain and simple
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>>550993182
love this hairy girl with inverted nipples
i just wish she chose a different scent besides citrus
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>>550993910
I quit AK like 2 years ago because I could no longer put up with the increasingly femcel-pandering direction the game was taking but that doesn't diminish how good of a gacha game it is besides its aesthetics.
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>>550993182
nyooo I have 913k stop mogging me
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>tiphera has more sloppa than sereniel
sloppers please, i hunger for angel slop...
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>>550993965
You're only allowed to have fun if you roll the latest banner unit. Sorry.
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Why the hell does Tressa pull up her panties so everyone can see them. And they're not even sexy they're just tighty whiteys
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>>550993801
You forgot to mention it has limited characters that can solo content ignoring all mechanics.
Almost like you are pushing an agenda, barafurry...
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>>550994165
In a sea of tits, the small cups rule alone...
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>>550992084
what did you record with?
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>>550992956
who in the fuck is yuki?
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>>550980717
And I'll do it again
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>>550994165
PROOF that small tits could make a lot of money too.
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>>550994245
>limited characters that can solo content ignoring all mechanics.
And? If you were there from year 1 then limiteds are a complete non-issue.
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I will compare the state of a game that is not even half a year old to one that has been out for almost 7 years now I am very smart btw
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>>550993182
How many Glorious Resistance are you using on your TCM team?
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>>550993973
delete account and post proof
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>>550994165
but sereniel have a negative ass and sounds like Haru 2.0
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>>550981642
No one liked this
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>>550994421
We NEED mesugakis in CZN
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i think i found him
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>>550994165
Sorry but im still waiting for anon to make slop of tiphs soles, get in line
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>>550993182
I kneel OrleaGOD Mika is a bandaid for retards who cannot teambuild
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>>550994745
Does he not know the decks are seasonal and will be useless next season?
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>>550994745
>the CZN reddit allowed a negative post on the subreddit
Wow, that's...

>looks at updoots
>negative updoots
>probably every comment is calling him retarded
So that's how they're curating it...
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>>550993031
Yep.
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>>550994745
>grinding hours to get good (seasonal/temporary/evanescent/temporal) save data
Hey, at least you won't have to grind them again
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>>550994745
>WisadelWorshipper

HAHAHA KEEEKKKKKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>550994165
Sereniel has a total of 0 fanarts lol.
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>>550994745
>r*ddit in favor of the nerfs
Not surprising, but now I know where the shills defending that shit in here come from
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We up for another day of hopium posting senpaitachi?!?
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>>550994745
there's more of these, they are all downvoted to the limit
wonder why these people come here huh
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>There's people that still don't understand how Seasonal Decks work.
>There's people that think that Tressa Cassius will still work when Rift Boss p2 releases in 2 days

When Sereniel drops we will have a very enjoyable shitshow, specially when it's guaranteed they will put a small stopgap to Tressa and Cassius 200 agony stack to avoid the same shitshow while the nerfs come into effect.
People will cry AGAIN and then mention how the nerfs are not needed because the boss is immune to tressa cassius dogshit (conveniently ignoring that they will have to put the same stopgap on every single new boss forever if they dont nerf)
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>>550995401
can you read bro
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>just get a home when they were cheap, then the housing market is a complete non-issue
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>>550995756
Look at the downvotes
Braindead nigger
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>>550995928
he says don't nerf my heros and gets downvoted?
you say he is in favor of nerfs?
brain-dead subhuman
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>>550995732
>Boss is immune to TCM
Nice, now we can make it even and have the other abomination named Mei Lin also removed from the game.
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Reminder that the CZN subreddit cannot be trusted. The locked the subreddit for 3 days because people were posting negative comments, then they removed all the moderators, then they "hired" new ones. When this fact was posted to /czn/, the post on Reddit was deleted, meaning that the owner of the CZN subreddit browses and actively monitors this thread. The CZN subreddit is highly controlled discourse.

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549648207
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549648941
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549649024
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549648759
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549649747
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549645687/#q549649747
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>>550994306
nvidia shadowplay
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>>550996238
meds
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can anyone post the selenial pre-farm prep guide?
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The shills are going hard
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why is she so far away bros?
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>>550996347
saar redeem the meds!
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why do they recommend middle? feels like right is so much better
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>>550996238
Can we trust the gooks to stop them from nerfing Tressa or did they give up on the game already?
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>>550996238
>reddit is highly controlled discourse
ftfy
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>>550996647
middle is recommended for deck farming purposes, because its unique and won't appear on dupes
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call me ghislane maxwell the way I browse reddit 24/7
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>>550994891
>the decks are seasonal and will be useless next season
This. The core gameplay is just irredeemable vomit diarrhea:
>spend weeks farming that monotonous cancer of a game mode for save data
>spend the rest of the time resetting boss for good rng to compete on the cuckladder
>more of these cuckladder game modes in the future, only reskinned
>all that + they usual daily, weekly chores, gearslop farming
The realization and burnout will really sink in at the start of next season. The imploding process has already long began and it can't be stopped.
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>>550996679
KR seems to only have ever cared about Owen and pinching gestures.

>>550996687
True. I don't use Reddit so I don't really follow what goes on over there, but it's weird to me what has occurred on the CZN subreddit.
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>>550994485
Just one on Cassius, couldn't fit another on Tressa or Orlea.
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ahem schizobro
the czn subreddit was literally unmoderated, as in no one had moderator status except the single guy who randomly made it in the first place
you could post anything and no one could delete your post at all except the subreddit creator
the subreddit grew so much that the very own Reddit head admins had to step in and lock everything and demand actual moderators or they would close the subreddit forever because people would easily start posting porn with no way to get rid of it

but you probably already knew this and you are just schizoing your own misinfo campaign
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>>550996647
I don't like right because during auto the game will sometimes just keep using it
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"b-but what about Mei Lin!?!? Now she will surely run rampant!" the Tressafag screams, tears running down his face. Despite the pushback he receives, he holds firm to the delusion that Mei Lin is as atrocious as the team comp that requires only 4 stars, two of them being free units.
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The damage control begins
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>>550996802
Yeah I can't wait for retards like you to leave.
Can't imagine how you would handle the new mode that doesn't even reward a save data file at the end of a run.
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how did we end up with such an unmedicated schizo?
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>>550996979
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>>550997125
the fast threads beget the least meds
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>>550996802
so true bocchisissy, these idiot devs expect us to pass playing the game as "gameplay"
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>>550997125
>BBBBUTTT MUUUUH NERFS OOOH NOOO MUH NERFS LOOK AT MY TCM SCOREEEE REEEEE THE HECKERINO PAYPIGGIES AND THEIR OOOINKERS ARE STEALING OUR F2POORFAGS FUN
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>>550997093
>>550997437
You could just say you like drinking chink cum.
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>>550997676
when I drink chink cum I DRINK IT COLD
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>our schizo is linking his own archived posts as proof for his own delusion
now that's some dedication
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>>550997676
but enough about hoyoslop
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>>550997445
>>550997926
samefag
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>he's trying to spin a narrative that's false
The damage control intensifies
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>>550998202
fuck I made it too obvious...
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>>550998480
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>>550996518
where breasts?
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>why do you like playing the game man!!!
>posts in the CZN general
retarded giganigger
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>>550996238
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>>550998749
she doesnt need them
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>>550996802
That's why you should take it easy and just enjoy famalam, I got my plat sticker and veteranmaxxing until next season.
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>>550996518
So you can save for 7 copies. I hope she's limited too.
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It's funny because the paid shill got exposed as one single samefag earlier today, so now he's trying to paint the anons rightfully shitting on the nerfs as one schizo
Even using fucking reddit screencaps to do so
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yatta
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>it is one guy versus the multiple people that all reside within my head so i am right
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>>550999198
I bet her nipples are delicious
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>>550999738
they are
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>>550999636
I don't have any maxed potentials and i'm clearing everything, not even lvl 60 either
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decent starter deck
I don't get why the 2AP epiphany, isn't that a tad too expensive?
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Save all your stamina items for the 2x resource week thing or you're gonna be wasting a lot
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>>551000009
>Draw
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>>551000172
the 2x resource week is limited to 3 simulations giving double rewards a day
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>We have unironic r*ddit*rs here
Explains a lot.
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>>551000172
>coffeeschizo
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>>551000172
>>551000278
I thought it was 6? Either way, yeah, no use saving stamina.
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>>551000009
bwo...
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>>551000335
lmao
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>>551000009
bro if this isnt bait idk...
but you are cute
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>>551000000
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I started czn 2 weeks ago and people told me to level tressa because of how strong she is. Did i just brick my account?
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>>551000912
purple void season is almost over bro why the FUCK are you leveling purples
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>>551000912
no, she will be BIS for like 2 more months? then REWORKED
everything here is overblown x10
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>>551000912
Brick is a strong word. You'll probably be able to refund Tressa when she gets nerfed. She will probably also be nerfed on the leaderboard boss. She'll be useful for other stuff though, at least until she gets nerfed. Once she gets nerfed, she'll probably be unusable though.
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>>550994745
gameplayniggers get the rope
its not even a complete game like slay the spire, why would you fucking do this to yourself
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>>550979932
>not striped
PLEASE make another one I beg
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>>550974039
Stay winning whalegamer.
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>>551000912
The brickening happens in February. You still have time to enjoy pre-brick Tressa and Cassius
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Just realized Narja isn't season 2
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>>551001268
lol
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>>550974895
The thing is, the nerf isnt coming til s3 im pretty sure.
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>>551001316
>its not even a complete game like slay the spire, why would you fucking do this to yourself
You know how there are people in every gacha thread who just spam that there's no content and there's nothing to do? CZN is perfect for those people because there is an actual game to play. For people who want to play CZN like a gacha, however, it's a Nightmare. The devs want CZN to be a live service game, not a gacha. They're double dipping the scum genres.
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>>551001469
She is the Haru of season 1.
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>>551001582
Nope balance adjustments are season 2
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>balance adjustments
Call it what they are, nerfs.
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>>551001941
If they call it "balance adjustments" then the hopechads can say that they'll be buffing units like Magna too. Or they can say things like Tressa and Cassius aren't getting nerfed, they're just being "brought in line" with other 4* characters...
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>>551002146
If they're gonna do that then they better buff Owen and Maribell, those two are seeing zero use.
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>Game doesn't get good until February
Kyodai it's time to sick back and relax.
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>>550978016
The guy in one the previous threads genned like 10 "images" of her.
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>strawman
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>>551001941
They are buffing the healers to make them heal. And possibly gutting Cassius into a healer too
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>>550979462
Its much much stronger to be 2/2 than 3/1. +3hits<two hits of 10+
Youd like 3/2 if possible however
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>>551002326
>until February
Chaos Assault is in April, and there's STILL no ETA for the story rewrite. I'm gonna strangle a gook at this rate.
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>>551002326
My monthly just ran out so it's good timing for me to skip a month anyway.
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>allegedly buffing healers
>nothing about shielders
nice balance adjustments cznkeks
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>>551002570
The 150 floor tower coming next next parch resets seasonally too
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>>551002370
Which is stupid because healing is already OP. Blocking needs buff, both in and outside of chaos.
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>>551002667
tower will be all 3k attack enemies trust the plan
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Yuki seems like she fucks shotas
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>>551002370
How did we even get in this state?Did they really not play 3 fucking chaos runs using different supports?Cause that's all it would have taken to realize:"oh shit mika is the only fucking consistent healer in chaos".Yes,yes calm down Niafags.You can complete runs with other supports too but they are not even in the same galaxy of reliability/flexibility/consistency.
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>>551002746
I just don't really care what content there is if grinding save data is going to be a slog and every character only has one build. Unless the tower isn't save data content.
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>>551003003
The devs. Do not. Play. This game. At all.
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>>551002994
that would be sereniel
and she does it while their parents watch (nobody can stop her)
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>>551002852
>Healing is op
You mean Mika is OP. The buffs are so Mika isnt stuck in every Chaos run
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Seriously though. How are they gonna buff healers but not shielders?
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>>551003314
>reminder
We already know you're retarded THOUGH
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>>551003018
It is. Cya. Building decks isnt for you. This game isnt for you. Go shit up another general. Stay mad.
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>>550984567
if you want to level sereniel's potentials you will have to clear this screen 220 times. will this be fun?
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>>551001748
Then that means there is a third, possibly limited, unrevealed season 2 character.
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>>551003907
Why do bugs have so much hp compared to every other mob? I started it to reach lvl 25 and it's insane how tanky those things are, no other planet feels that tanky even if you are off element.
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>>551003368
i think the issue is mika is the only healer anyone uses so they know how to fix that problem. the shielder issue is that they have no place in the game. they're going to add event mechanics that punish you really hard for being unshielded, but even beyond that they hopefully do a bigger fix.
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>>550980813
Your point?
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>>551004282
ayo
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>>550985801
If smilegate nerfed every other character to 0 dmg except yuki/chizuru/haru they would be god tier.
In the same vein nerfing tc is a buff to every other unit.
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>>551003907
That sounds like peak gameplay to me. I'll even do it manually.
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>>551004282
The C...
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>>551003907
Your Yuki? Your Giant Ballista Vero?
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>>551003368
Isn't there only Khalipe? They better start adding other real shielders.
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>>551003907
>put khalipe + 2 empties on auto
>tab out
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>>551003692
slurpbro... the stream...
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>>551003018
>grinding save data is going to be a slog and every character only has one build
You're in luck, Zero System in Season 2 is about to get upgraded with swanky new features like a much larger dupe selection pool and epiphany rerolls.
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It gets a cheeky smile from me every time.Wtf was the thought process ahahahah
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>>551005250
that's one fifth of a day's stamina. be appreciative.
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>>551004862
Khalipe, Magna, Maribell
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>>551005221
Yeah I know that's why I said I was skipping a month.
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So the season ends in 3 weeks, but season 2 doesn't start until February.
What are we supposed to be doing in that time?
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>>551003907
That's like 2 Yuki cards.
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>>551005504
We'll have the 150 floors of battles thing.
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>>551005504
Farming potential mats and optimizing memory fragment substats.
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>spend 200 hours farming a gawdlike save and keep it forever
>reroll handpick your save in a few hours but it becomes useless next season
Guess they chose the latter. Imagine being one of the cucks who spent 200 hours farming their save though with the durrent epiphany/dupe mechanics lmao.
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>>551004951
>>on auto
>>tab out
This game isn't for you.
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>>551005709
Can't you just partially AI generate an edit on an area of a picture instead of massacring her X irises?
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>>551005873
blame youtube compression
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>>551003907
Khalipe clears that in 3 turns.
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>>551005846
It's not gonna happen this season so what's your point?
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you rolling for our first limited?
if so how much do you have
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>>551006109
Been waiting for this day.
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>>551005846
>The grind is the point, this game isn't for-- ACK!
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>>551006109
I'm also on a guarantee
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>>551005373
Who's using Magna or Maribell?
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>>551006109
5k and 10
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>>551005867
Yes it is
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>>551005846
Deserved it

Considering the entire planet was complaining about rerolling for epiphanies and stuff I knew they were going to get gigabuffed so just got bare minimum working decks
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>>551006610
That's kinda why the shielders should receive """balance adjustments""", anon
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How do you guys build and use your Khalipe? Does she just go on whatever team, kind of like Veronica?
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>>551006109
Sereniel is going to take my rate-up virginity
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>>551006707
nooo it was all just one guy complaining, they'll never add epiphany reroll, it'd break the game!
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>>551005709
I think her right nip is in the wrong place
And why the abs?
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It's been 3 days now of this constant strawmanning.
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Why are all of you spelling Khalipe's name correctly now? I've never seen this many people spell it right in a row. Be real with me, are you all bots?
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>>551004282

wtf btfo that guy
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>>551005709
>not inverted nipples
You had one job AI artist anon
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>EEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH???
>OPPAI PRESENTO??? SUGOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>551007335
I always spelt Khalipe's name correctly, don't lump me in with the third worlders who frequent this general and can't spell her and Renoa properly.
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>>551007008
She's mostly good in Chaos but I use >>550982147 also because I'm hyper-invested in her.
She's pretty self-sufficient so yeah she can go on whatever team in Chaos. She does alright as main DPS, especially in insect world.
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You cannot have inverted nipples everytime
It has to be special and spread apart otherwise it loses it's charm if everyone has them
It's like an SSR roll. If you get an SSR everytime then it's boring.

>>551007251
>why the abs

low test
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>>551007008
She's an AoE merchant, she has a problem with being a high-cost unit though so Mika is mandatory.
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>>551007335
I don't think I've ever seen anyone spell Khalipe's name incorrectly.
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I finally resumed leveling up the zero system and I brought Yuki to the bugmen chaos. She wrecks shit pretty hard, she would be pretty damn good if this world was Order instead of Instinct.

Was I wrong? Was Yuki always... Le good??
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>>551008136
I've seen Khalpie a lot, plus a few other permutations of the last four letters.
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>>551007751
This. Inverted on all the girls just ruins it.
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>>551008337
she's good in your shitstain lv75 chaoses
try lv95
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>>551008337
she is in a lot of leaderboard teams
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>>551008337
For AoE? Yes of course
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Yukicoin will go to the moon when destructible part bosses come out, BUY NOW
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>>551008860
will that literally be like limbus? where destroying some parts weakens the boss and they do weaker attacks
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>>551007751
inverted nipples should be reserved for characters with prominent asian genetics anyway, as they're exclusive to a asian heritage.
>all anime girls are asian
wrong! sereniel has light hair and a hebrew (inspired) name. her traits point towards a northern or central european lineage. unless she has ultra pro maxx mutt genetics, there's no room for asian lineage, thus no possibility of inverted nipples.
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Do we have an accurate count of how many pulls Season 1 gives now?

>>550973982
I just bought this game cause of the steam sale
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>>551009170
>as they're exclusive to a asian heritage.
Didn't know that.
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>>551008337
>she would be pretty damn good if this world was Order instead of Instinct.
kek. so you're saying she's not good?
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How do we fix shielders?
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>>551009170
So more reason for Nine to have inverted nipples
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>>551009431
>xe sees no difference between "good" and "pretty damn good"
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>>551009170
Nah, gonna need a source on that. Also Orlea has inverted nipples 100%
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>>551009469
the new mode where sanity carries over will fix them as shields are the only way to prevent sanity loss
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>>551009560
You still take sanity damage at the start of every turn no matter what happens, until that mechanic is gone, healing is just better.
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>>551009559
Interesting by this data Renoa has inverted nipples
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>>551009559
>AI slop response
>in the AI slop game general
SlopKINO
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>>551007751
>>551009559
>You cannot have inverted nipples everytime
>Also Orlea has inverted nipples 100%
Agreed. Orlea absolutely has inverted nipples, and while i do like Sereniel's inverted nipple art that anon did, I don't feel like Sereniel has inverted nipples.
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>>551009886
Stop making me want to use my 300/300 Standard guarantee on Orlea.
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I'm going to personally dig through SuperCreative's employee list and directly ask OrleaDev about Orlea's assets.
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Why did Orlea dev make her weak
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>>551009886
>I don't feel like Sereniel has inverted nipples.
inverted nipples fit her character phenotype
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>>551010248
Do it
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>>551010360
He know that balance patch going to happen that's why he make her weak so she will get buff instead of nerf.
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>>551010360
He was trying not to get accused of favoritism but now that the cat's out of the bag he's going to get her gigabuffed.
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>>551010360
Unironically doesn't play the game. Just made her a jack of all trades because that sounds good.
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I'm still bored af.
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>>551010360
Beta testers didn't discover anything about people being good. Kayron got his 0 cost futilities removed while Tressa got to keep her dagger spam.
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>>551006109
Probably. I didn't initially like her based on her l2d but she looks much better in her animations. As long as she isn't a brick like the other 3 we've had, I'm definitely rolling for her.
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Post Yuki
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>>551011521
>Kayron got his 0 cost futilities removed
You're joking? that shit would fix his entire kits
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Orlea is weak because she was OP with one of the unreleased CZNs that you can see in the gameplay trailer
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Bwos am I safe
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>>551010549
>"...for example, Orlea"
>You really like Orlea, huh? You constantly mention her
>"N-no, I love everyone equally..."
>Yeah, right.
>Here we can see Orleadev's number 1, Orlea...
Was this really necessary? Exposing that poor guy's nunsexing tendencies?
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>>551012019
renoa wouldn't betray you, she loves you
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>>551012019
i went on a date with Renoa today
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>>551012137
Thanks bwo
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>>551011923
Might be why we don't have betas anymore. The 5* got totally fucked over while the free 4* stayed busted.
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>>551012198
Every universe's protos deserves a renoa that loves them, happy 4 u bwo
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Since the mech angel seems to be a waste of time, do we know anything about the characters that follow her?
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>>551012198
Did she bitch about your preferences again?
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>>551012490
She's shaping you into her ideal husband please understandu, she couldn't be there from your childhood so she has a lot of catch up work to do
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Anyone have that ai slop of Yuki with flowers on her boobs??
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>>551007472
Damn this game really is dead in Korea.
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>>551012605
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>>551007472
MONEYos DIMESo CHADmare!!!!!
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>>551012958
Thanks!! I was trying to find it
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>>551012743
what are gooks playing?
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Wake up honey, it's time to do your weeklies
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>>551013153
I played city of mist 200 times already please... please...
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>>551013153
hmm nyo
I'll wait until after the update so I can kill the new boss
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>>551013153
will do them with sereniel
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>>551013107
why?
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>>551013153
>0/8000
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Just finished the story, very grim. It's not so bad toward the end.
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>>551012019
Bro, what the fuck is with that score? Those guys are obsessed! There's like a thousand places in the top 1%. Unless there's some real crazy incentive, I don't see the point to go that far. I can't imagine how much they farmed and minmaxed memory fragments.
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>>551014956
Judas did nothing wrong.
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PLAY THE GAME
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will they refund tressa/cassius mats though?
I'd like to try out some of my other units with their mats tbqh
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Which characters want to bring zero deck characters with them on their team?
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>>551014956
>It's not so bad toward the end
It was so mediocre past the prologue I don't even remember anything except fighting Judas.
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>>551015205
>I don't see the point to go that far.
Tiny penis.
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>>551014956
>>551015640
They course corrected back to the original plot near the end. The original plot was better but it felt disjointed because the director's fanfic didn't lead to it naturally.
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>>551014956
>>551015640
>>551016074
Nah, the Life Core's mere existence puts a plot hole in Ch5's epilogue.
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I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna build Khalipe.
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>>551016221
Meh, not like any of this matters until the rewrite. We'll see what they do with it.
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How do I build Chizuru? There doesn’t seem to be a common consensus yet from my quick googling.
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>>551015523
Yes. But the nerfs are 2 months away and you won't give a shit about the mats by then
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>>551016450
copy her purple card 4 times
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>>551016450
Copy Oni Hunt, Tsukuyomi's +2 hits is mandatory but Oni Hunt is the card that actually wants to be duped
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>>550996075
you don't know how to read holy shit.
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>>551016221
>Life Core
How does that thing work? Since it can revive rei from bolognese, why couldn't we just shoot owen on his head while he's mind controlled and revive him later?
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>>551017521
Presumably they don't come cheap
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>>551016450
https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/characters/chizuru
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>>551017521
>just shoot owen
from how the core works they could it would imitate an emergency recall
good idea
when was he mind controlled? i don't remember?
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>>551017831
By the book at end of chapter 4.
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>>551017521
>Since it can revive rei from bolognese
I still don't know if that's canon or not.
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>>551018217
It's canon. Check the very old Story PV on the official channel.
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This game is so confusing what is faint memory?
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>>551018432
your deck score
if you go past the limit of the chaos difficulty you are running the game reverts back epiphanies and cards until you are no longe over it.
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>>551018432
the cards, the gear is vivid memory which doesn't take up any points
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>>551013153
it can wait until I pull sereniel i am not touching chaos
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Speaking of faint memory, how much pt do you think elite cards should have cost?
Nobody is picking them up for 80.
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Who's a good character to run Blue Pot with if I'm using Mei-Ling and Mika?
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>>551019772
50-60, 40 is the least it can go in my opinion.
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You guys think this is good enough to stay in Diamond? I'm sick of trying to farm chains.
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I think the biggest issue this game has is that the decks you want to build to clear chaos isn’t the deck you want to build for later use. You actively sabotage yourself by picking the cool monster cards to clear the run which makes the whole run miserable and unfun.
Dunno how they can fix that problem though.
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>>551020315
yea it's just an inherit problem with the game that you just gotta live with
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>>551018432
Altering your deck costs memory, be it removing or duplicating cards, buying new cards or getting divine epiphanies. Regular epiphanies and the first duplication are free.
If you go over your memory score then the game will start fucking your deck by returning removed cards, removing duplicated cards or removing divine epiphanies.
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>>551019772
I would've preferred if they were generally stronger and just never got saved, but in the current state I'd say 60. That way you can get a copy with 3 removals in a t14 run and a second copy would require compromises.
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>>551020315
I think the mode they announced in the roadmap where instead of getting save data at the end you get a save data edit ticket instead is a good fix for this. Well it doesn't fix the roguelike mode we already have but the new mode won't have the problems of the current mode.
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>>551020315
I don't understand why Save Data even exists. I mean, I guess I do, because it's a gacha game. That's the answer to all the reasons CZN sucks. But you have to win the RNG lottery a million times all within a single run, but there's still a limit to how good your deck can actually be even if you roll a thousand natural 20s. And Monster cards being 80 points is so fucking stupid. Who would ever use a Monster card?

Really, the devs just don't play this game. It's really frustrating.
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So I'm looking at some achievements and uh... what?
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>>551020308
Yea, I'm lower master and just slightly above you, you got it.
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>>551020315
I came into the game thinking it would be like YGO where you can make all kinds of deck just for the fun of it but nope. It's so limiting that you can't even create meme or gimmicky decks for fun.
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>>551020728
>Really, the devs just don't play this game. It's really frustrating.
This is one of the main reasons why modern gaming sucks ass. Gone are the days of a group of like-minded dudes getting together to make the game of their dreams. There's no passion for video games anymore. It's all about profit or activism.
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>>551020315
>>551021086
I promise you will soon reach a point where lab 8 and difficulty 1 chaos feel the same and you can make whatever meme shit you want with high save data caps.
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>>551021010
AI generated ahh content
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>>551020315
The roadmap has a fix announced specially for this, so all we can do is wait and see what it'll be like.
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>>551020315
That's part of the challenge. It's a balancing act between making the save data good without killing the run, trying to metagame removals, picking gear and neutrals and such all between 3 combatants at the same time.
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is there gonna be pvp tournaments in the future? why would they nerf anything in this god forsaken game?
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>>551021159
>Gone are the days of a group of like-minded dudes getting together to make the game of their dreams.
It still exists, it's just almost entirely indie games. Gaming became an industry rather than a hobby.
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>>551021159
Well the code monkeys at the bottom of the hierarchy are usually still working for passion. No one gets into game dev for the money. It's the suits at the top who are profiteers and activists. That's why when you get rid of them, the result is indie games, and those are still good.
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>>551021418
Nah, 99% of indieshitters are exactly the same, just on a smaller scale. Soulless, trend-chasing faggots who just look at game development as a get-rich-quick scheme.
I'm not saying there aren't exceptions but boy are they rare.
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>>551021778
>Nah, 99% of indieshitters are exactly the same
I mean, maybe. I don't play 99% of indie games. I guess the point I was making is that if you're looking for people who make the games that they themselves want to be playing, out of love and passion for the hobby, you pretty much have to look at indie games, and those can still be pretty good. I think the last "big" game that I played and really liked and felt was a labor of love was Automata which was almost a decade ago, though I've played several indies since that that I really liked.
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>>551021159
I understand your complaint, but this is really the worst place to make it. There is no gacha that is a passion project, none at all, choosing the monetization model is admitting you're willing to make a game worse to be able to jew people. Any dev who claims otherwise is lying, any player who claims otherwise is fooling themselves or trying to rope you. There are plenty of cool games by cool devs out there but the places to find them are completely different.
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>>551021202
That's actually not possible. In YGO you can have all kind of interactions with all kinds of cards. Here there aren't that many interactions to build off of and the upgrades don't enable anything new or creative but just makes you do the same things but stronger.
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whats so passionate about slay the sprite ripoff?
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>>551022182
If players ever discover an actual card combo, it will get nerfed and/or removed, sadly.
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>>551022182
I want to see the people praising TCM gameplay as peak gaming try playing an actual card game with depth and decision making, it'd blow their minds.
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Retard here. Does
>Retain owned cards
Mean only when Beryl retains her own cards? I had Orlea retain a card but it didn't trigger an attack.
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>>551022298
This. Anything powerful that the devs didn't personally intend for is just going to get removed from the game so what's the point?
This isn't a card game. This is just a generic turn-based mobile gacha dressed up as a card game.
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The roadmap has renewed my hopes so much I'm playing for no reason just for fun.
I'M GONNA HOOOOPE.
I'M HOOOOOOPING.
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>>551012958
Is there any version where her nipples isn't surgically removed?
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>Stella Sora increase monthly subscription value
Well SG? At least give a free stam bottle everyday or something
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>>551021357
yes, guild PVP hitting score pinatas
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>>551022182
You're comparing a game that is 25 years old to one that is 2 months old. Release YGO is actually a far worse game than CZN.
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>>551023648
You can safely assume any combatants cards only affect their own cards unless at specifically says "any" or sometimes even "other combatant". Unlimited Firepower likewise only buffs her cards unless you take the epiphany that changes it to any
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/czn/ will be stuck in HOPE(COPE) stage for half a year
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Chaos Zzzzz nightmare
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>>551022182
>In YGO you can have all kind of interactions with all kinds of cards.
sometimes too many interactions
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>>551024284
hopeCHADS be like "the game is dogshit but in a year it will have signs of improvement!"
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>>551023664
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>>551024310
>links
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>>551024310
I haven't played since Envoy of the Beginning was a meta card but why does one path end with Black Luster Soldier? That combo ending with him makes him strong or something?
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>>551023865
Damn I thought I could get easy free attacks. Should have expected it I guess
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Be real, this game doesn't have half the depth of Balatro or Slay the Spire. There's inherently nothing skillful about drafting 3 characters who you know will work well together and get exactly 8 cards via epiphany. And that's okay.
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>>551025080
no this is Slay the Spire (Balatro doesn't have depth)
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>>551024371
I mean, that's the story of Blue Archive, and look where is it now.
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>>551025236
Well you see BA was drowning in fanart from day 1 and we can't even get enough sloppa.
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>>551025236
>look where it is now
the game no one play and only use as material to draw porn?
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>>551025354
>Well you see BA was drowning in fanart from day 1
this is a lie on all accounts
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CZN is dogshit but in two months it will have signs of improvement!
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>>551024310
Yugioh has been shit ever since they introduced pendulums. What I would give to get back pre-pendulum yugioh.
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>>551025741
Genesys format is a thing now.
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merry rinmas

https://files.catbox.moe/vngfcz.jpg
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>>551025853
I don't know what that is.
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>>551020062
anyone?
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>>551024910
It's more of a meme chart about Halq than anything serious
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>>551025543
Something interesting is that they gave us a sneak peek of every upcoming improvement, except for the story rewrite where they just said "It's coming, don't worry haha." I think they're hoping the gooks will just forget and they can get away with not doing a rewrite since us and japs seem to have just accepted the story will be bad.
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>>551026176
The answer is always Veronica.
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>>551025236
I don't think that space bunny girls will work this time
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>>551026267
What came after PePe? I think I quit for good during that format but I'm not 100% sure.
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>>551026484
S bros...
V bros...
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>>551026575
Veronica's a mouse.
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>>551020308
I had a shitty 802k score that dropped me into plat a few days ago, and my 907k I got with the intent to get diamond back today got me master. So you're probably safe-ish? I'm kind of expecting to drop to diamond after the procrastinating tryhards show up within the next 2 days but that's all I really cared about.
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>>551023664
>This is just a generic turn-based mobile gacha dressed up as a card game.
Sad but true.
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>>551026723
I think it might be worse, every game with leaderboards specially new have some sort of squeeze by the end of the event, now we will see how bad the squeeze will be in CZN
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>>551023828
>Release YGO is actually a far worse game than CZN.
I'm an oldfag. Release YGO is the only YGO I've ever played, and honestly it's probably about the same as CZN.
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>>551026959
YGO released with no effect monsters with only the raw stats of cards mattering and only the simplest of removal effects. It's by all accounts a pretty bad game and it actually took a significantly long time to gain its footing. I don't think CZN will improve a lot in a short time, but I think it can get way better after a while so I'm willing to cut it some slack.
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Didn’t you all say you were quitting?
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>>551023664
You WILL play the developer's approved combo
You WILL farm for developer's approved fragment set
You WILL roll for the developer's designed BiS partner
You WILL use the developer's designated seasonal shilled character.
You WILL jerk off to developer's mandated big titties.
And you will be happy.
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>>551027726
this game is a gacha with dailies combined with a cerebral roguelike deckbuilder and I quit one part of that
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>>551027821
Jesus christ look at the fucking artefacting
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>>551023664
Yeah, the game really isn't that much different from shit like FGO or Reverse 1999.
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>>551027726
i already quit to be fair but this place is still entertaining
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>>551027726
As content creator I'm using this thread as my video material
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>>551027841
>since characters have no real variety for builds, the roguelike runs become boring unless you keep changing up the characters
>to expand your roster you must engage with the gacha
>but viable teams are so limited it becomes boring anyways
>and raising characters to be viable for high level chaos takes way too long
>there's also no real excitement in the game as you either have the stats to clear the run in which case it's easy or you don't and it's impossible
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How do you guys feel about the nerfs in Slay the Spire?
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>>551027726
I’m just here to laugh and make fun of people like you
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>>551028932
You don’t have anything better to do? SAD.
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Too much shitposting near the holidays.
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>>551028918
Nerfs in StS are good because they were done to make the game better in alignment of the identity of the game.
StS devs weren't nerfing fun things so whales could wank themselves on their shitty ranking board.
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>>551029368
Jeets don’t celebrate Christmas after all.
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>>551028918
I... I still miss it :(
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>>551029568
devs please just add all the pre-nerf StS cards
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>>551028918
Nerfs in games like StS are made with purpose not because the devs woke up one morning and saw that they might lose 5 dollars from john sumnida because he might not roll for the latest on banner character...
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>>550994745
>We are all intelligent people
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>l-literally everyone is waking up! T-they dont like the nerfsss ok??? they all understand and woke up and and and they see now how much DAMAGE this is and fucked up and and and

KEK, I fucking love when the lead game director vision overrides all the generic gacha treatment and leave autistic schizos like these forever salty. Stella Sora? Forever ruined for not nerfing their first limited. So happy /our/ game is actually a real game bwos.
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>>551030718
wait, and I just saw now that they believe it all is (LITERALLY) a Reddit conspiracy and that their >>>mods<<<< (LITERALLY) are scavenging our threads and acting upon it? LOL
we official got our lolcows, this is an actual general; let's bring back thread numbering to trigger them even more; god I love autistic tears so much~
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SEA is waking up
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bros i'm already doing the monthly subscription but i want to buy more. the BP is dogshit. someone shill me on what else is actually worth buying
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>>550976721
oh, look at this guy...
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i am the one who wakes up.
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>>551013153
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Boobs
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I love when instead of trying to have a fun game the devs choose to copy the worst aspect of every existing gacha and create a "meta" that's going to be only dictated by which character is currently on banner...
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Anyone thinking the 8k pts will reset and we can double dip this week?
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>>551031781
hahaha nigga just walk away from the screen like nigga close your stove client haha
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>>551031781
it's an acronym
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Khalipe friends, what sets do you use on her? The defense 2 piece seems like a no brainer, but are either of the 4 piece sets worth it?
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>>551032045
i've yet to see a good argument for a four piece set on any character
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>>551031781
If the character you like is good, you better not use them on the leaderboard if they perform better than the banner character. That's a one way trip to nerfsville.
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>>551032045
The 4-piece 2+ cost crit chance set and the 2-piece crit damage set.
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>>551032314
isn't it kind of crazy how one leaderboard dictated the entire future of the game? it's crazy...
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If TCM didn't exist, top 100 on the right side would just be gigawhaled E6 Chizuru and MAYBE a Rin or two.
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>>551033250
Nah, it would be Tressa Hugo Mika
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>>551033250

Hugo comp sneak in a few times when the score didn't reach 900k+ yet. But that comp is also getting gutted with Tressa nerf.
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Not saying it's going to happen, but if the next balloon tits is just as bad as shitzuru, it would be really funny
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For me it's
>0/8000
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>>551033805
They didn't address this, did they, that's grim
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no english dub was the first sign
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>>551032935
I used to make fun of the people sperging out because of the leaderboard, but they had greater insight it seems
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>3 more weeks of zero motivation to run chaos
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Why did we stop pretending to be concerned?
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>>551034058
The concerns were real.
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Can't believe this was the only new gachage this year and they've ruined it. I guess the genre is dying.
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>>551034058
Extremely lewd Corruption HuGOD alt got revealed.
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>>551034286
>only new gachage this year
Stella sora bros...
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>>551034286
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Remember when CZN donned the title gacha with good amount of content
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How will they design the next Great Rift to shill Sereniel without getting run over by TCM again?
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>>551034286
I thought I wanted a gacha with "real gameplay" but what I found out is that "real gameplay" just means 1000x more time consuming chores.
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>>551033805
You can safely clear difficulty8 while turning your brain off with Mika, Khalipe, and (void dps).
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>>551034785
I could if the game would let me turn on auto
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>>551034739
Boss is immune to Agony.
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>forces you to use a guide to pick the right option because picking the option will brick your account
This shit is a bad addition
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How much Faint Memory does the left card take up?
The effect doesn't seem that good desu. Thinking of going with the right card.
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>>551034739
I'm curious about this too. Well not how, since there are a million ways to do it, but by how much they'll limit TCM. Would be funny if they didn't do it at all and let Sereniel be the fourth brick.
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>>551034732
CZN has infinite content. You can do chaos runs as many times as you want and you can make so many decks. 1 card can have like 3+ variations. Just think about all the possible combinations.
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The bad option is concerning
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>CZN has infinite content. You can do chaos runs as many times as you want and you can make so many decks. 1 card can have like 3+ variations. Just think about all the possible combinations.
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>>551034990
Skill issue.
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>>551034990
If this game had any SOUL, pushing units into Deep Trauma would be how you unlock their Corruption alts.
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>>551034739
Tenacity bar can only be damaged on element, has massive damage reduction while un-ravaged. Also give it the same multi-hit damage reduction to screw over Mei Lin.
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>>551034739
Double AoE stage?
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>>551035237
>Tenacity bar can only be damaged on element
Sereniel is Instinct. Cassius can hit it.
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>>551034990
Not getting affinity isn't going to brick your account, and using your ticket on counseling already gets you way less affinity than excursions anyway.
I hope they get more unhinged and you can do a second counseling session with them in this state, and if you fail that then Rin rapes you.
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>>551034992
Divinity cost 20, normal epipi cost 0
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>>551035172
Rei of light...
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>>551035356
It's also twice as big so only Sereniel can do noticeable damage to it.
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>the point they put to nerf Tress and Cassius was they made the fights 4 times longer
Kekarooo. nice excuse
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>>551035826
You don't understand. The reason people are getting burnt out is because they're doing TCM runs on the leaderboard. There's no other possible explanation.
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Do not forget to get your 500k points for the weekly rewards
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>>551035826

People here don't play the game so they don't know that each TCM boss run is longer than the TWO Choas run combined (1+ hour), and you probably need 10+ runs to get near the ceiling of your decks.
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https://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2002937144067957206
I know Sereniel is supposed to sound like a robot but she comes off as autistic
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>>551036370
I mean yea but the point is people run them because they are so much better than any other team
Time is just an excuse
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>>551036473
>wine bottles and glasses
>user manual
what's in the box?
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>>551036473
She just sounds like a standard onee-san character.
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>>551036473
She sounds like she jerks off shotas
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>>551036780
>>551036780
>>551036780
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Twintail girl better get lobby art that's just as horny
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>>551036473
>see this
What do you do?
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>>551036370
The reason the runs took so long is because they didn't optimize their engine, and TCM pushed it to its absolute limits
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>>551021020
What rank are you right now?
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>he invested in Tressa

OHHHH NONONONONOOOOO PFFT HAHAHAHAH KEKKARRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



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