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>>551330578>not merry xmas editiongayI wish YOU a merry christmas, anon
>>551331709I sincerely hope you don't spend your holidays on 4chan
>>551331709>not making the next thread to fit his wishesL A Z YAZYMerry Christmas m8
why can't you do direct inter-platform transfer in space age? the expansion feels more like a weird scenario pack than an evolution of vanilla factorio
>>551332219>Why can't you (X) with a platformDeveloper oversightissues with the infinite asteroid economybalance issues discovered at the LANinsistence upon a single intended solution to the game
>>551332219>>551332162
>>551332219the same reason you can't have chests or people on thembad gravity>but belts ca-magnetized
>>551333442>Magnetized biter eggs
>>551333587eggs are a great source of ironiron is ferromagnetic
>uhh you can't do that because it's unbalanced!riiiight, so we make it so that the game feels like an erectile dysfunction instead -- you can get hard but you'll lose it mid-actioneither don't put broken shit into the game, or let the players go wild and build around that
>>551335039Don't be rude. Just for that I'm taking away your Quality LDS from fluid.
>>551335039what am i meant to be seeing here
>>551335479mental illness in full display on christmas eve
>>551335479I believe he's trying to show that the Heating Tower's 250% efficiency when burning flammable fuel allows it to pretty easily invalidate nuclear power. But I personally still find nuclear more convenient unless you're on Aquilo.
>>551335039>>551335874The benefit of nuclear is that it uses practically no fuel. For 480MW, you're eating 16 solid fuel per second, that can actually deplete an oil patch over time. Or it requires a pretty big depleted patch with speed-moduled pumpjacks. If you're doing several GW, you start needing a green belt of fuel or more, which is now a whole can of logistics. Yeah it's not that hard to set up in the grand scheme of things but nuclear does not need it so it's still simpler. I made a tileable nuclear blueprint and expanded it to 2.2GW over time until I switched to fusion, and it was running the whole time on my first uranium patch, something like 8 centrifuges processing the ore and literally zero (0) kovarex processing for the entire game. And logibots (early game logicbots with low speed and unupgraded cargo, mind you) supplying the fuel.And of course fusion basically invalidates both of those, except aquilo where you specifically need heat.
>>551335874>I believe he's trying to show that the Heating Tower's 250% efficiency when burning flammable fuel allows it to pretty easily invalidate nuclear power.>5 heating towers>7 chemical plants dedicated to cracking and making solid fuel out of 75 oil/s (useful resource)vs>two nuclear reactors (more like 1.5)>1 uranium fuel cell per 2 minutes aka like 10 uranium ore per minute (meme resource outside of nuclear)if he is, he's not doing a very good job at itand i refuse to believe he meant the other way around after i post this post
>>551331778>>551331997Mine was dobe alreadyI got socks
>>551337874>>551335874uhm technically both processes turn crude into heat
>>551331709>not merry SExmas edition
>>551337874>meme resource outside of nuclear>atomic bombs (100x u-235) can't even wipe a mid-late game biter base the blast radius is insanely pathetic, it destroys what, like 4 or 5 nests? AND you have to do it manually, meanwhile a 4-round salvo of artillery strike will accomplish the same thing, if not morethe atomic bomb is in an insulting state really
>>551330578man that looks like shit
>>551339478They're fun to put in the lead spiderton of a hit squad and shoot at particularly large nests but... yeah it's still a manual process... If you put a nuke in an auto-fire spidertron it generally won't go very well...Also, you can put biter capture rockets in Spidertrons. It's not particularly useful but it's a thing that you can do...
>>551339617it's the future googles believes in
>>551337874I feel like there's the niche case of heating towers in Gleba/Aquilo maybe Fulgora for someone that wants to have self-sufficient planets. I personally think that's bogus as a platform perfectly capable of taking imports can deal with exports as well.The other case would be someone who skipped/cheaped out nuclear and solar, as an upgrade to boilers, but you need nuclear for personal power so not much point there also.I think the fact that heating towers makes power is most incidental (hence the name heating).Anyway, nuclear is king.
>it's a 1 to 1 ratio from eggs to maggots and a you're not supposed to be able to make eggs any other way >and maggots to nests is a 5 to 1 >which means you might need on average to run the creature chamber 100 times to get 1 queen
>>551347705Isnt there a suboptimal turd for that
>>551349931There is, I'm just saying that's the default and I hate it.
>>551350146I had to run my vrauk 2 program nearly 600 times to get 2 of them
>>551350985you don't *need* vrauk2s for science thougheverand they don't cost cdna and retrovirus in the first place which are 15 different items needed in minuscule quantities
I take that back it's 50 times, 500 eggs -> 100 nests
>>551351131Least the compost turd makes retrovirus a non issue
>>551351562please don't tell me you took the compost turd that makes literally every composter require a constant amount of a secondary input from three other plants to merely exist to craft something as trivial as retrovirus
>>551351730I havent clicked anything yet
>>551351959only worms are probably worth it, and that's mostly a QoL that almost entirely gets negated by chemicalthe molasses one is a fucking scam and I forgot what the other one isretrovirus and cdna are just annoying to craft so I made a bulk craft of 100 of each but I made only 5 bees because I didn't expect it to bee this bothersomeI'll just make a batch of 20 and repeat if I don't get anything
>>551352267I only set my cdna to 1 stack of 100 and it made them and I picked it up when I needed it and it made another but yeah rng crafts can still fuck you
>>551352713I can understand automating moss and biosamples, but cdna, in the amount that it's needed is just on the order of 3/6 for every new plant/animal, so the idea was to just make a stack of the thing on the spot whenever I ran out, considering it'd last me a few hundred hoursbees seem to be the exception, not the norm
for whoever wanted advice on gleba. you want to build on high ground, but need access to both green and purple areas for the trees
>>551354717also don't build your actual base too close to your tree harvest area or it will be molested by starfish
>>551339876Reminded me to redraw a stupid joke I made ages ago
>>551353132Can you even handcraft that
>>551355680No. But I'm bothering to set up 6+ caravans to make something that will work from here until the end of time, not something that I will use once every hundred hours. The first recipe that asks for cdna is zungor cocoons. By then, I'll just use logistic deposits.
>>551347470using the fuel fulgora shits out was the difference between me running out of power randomly and me being up 24/7and for gleba heating towers are great because the planet runs on a fucking potato worth of power
>>551357330>gigawatts of power literally in the air>he still burns solid fuel
>>551357428how're you gonna get it out of the air dumbassnets?
can i get a QRD on stormworks?i started a career mode save and the first real mission asked me to go repair a small fishing boat, which i could never findi am 99.9% certain it wasn't there or it had sunkthe waypoints on the map don't seem to do anything or help for navigatingthe game tells me i can respawn my boat to put it back in place and refuel it, but i have to do this twice (first time makes the boat disappear completely) and it comes back with some fuel missing (only had 85%). the editor doesn't have a "respawn" button at all, only a "spawn" button, which says it'll cost $18k to "spawn" the boat but using it twice to respawn (??) the boat costs $0is the career mode supposed to be jank shit and ignored or what the fuck is going on
>>551357515>Airdropping barrels of energy to the planet possible after advanced recipesSounds more like a meme challenge run to produce no ground energy
>>551357428>Free electricity from the sky>absolutely pathetic accumulator uptake rateHolmium accumulators really should be base game. There's no excuse for requiring a field of literally 5,000 accumulators to get good uptake per lightning strike.
>>551357330You could also just use nuclear, solid fuel recycles fast anyway.>>551358210Accumulators on Fulgora and Asteroid Grabbers are the only two situations where quality feels needed honestly.Elf modules go a long way in Space Age.
>>551357428i basically only ran uncommon accumulators on 4 huge separate islands and i'd still run dry of power until i started making steam batteries
>>551355048isn't megaman a robot?
Is the crust good yet?
Fulgora is my favorite planet!
>>551356937I just made 1 caravan pick shit from multiple places and only do a loop if I need cdna couldn't be fucked to handfeed it
>>551360914shopping list caravans my beloved
>>551330578404 KB JPG>>551291314 #>>551293905 #>>551293975 #And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"https://youtu.be/5IsSpAOD6K8?list=RD5IsSpAOD6K8 [Open]Here's your 8+8 Medium Steam Piston Generator 14K Swatts /EGG/https://files.catbox.moe/5ok1zp.xml
>basically every /egg/ game out there except factorio is dead or dying
>>551361147Should I make myself a train or truck or paddle boat
>>551361202wtf does that even mean you stupid fucking zoomer
>drunk>want to impulse buy an egg game>stream downpraise gaben
>>551363087nta, but from my small perspective>stormworks: cranking out DLCs to farm money, polishing the game is abandoned>stationeers: rocketwerkz is trying to scoop up the KSP void and is probably going to focus entirely on that rather than stationeers>KSP: 110% murdered>CoI: DLC farming mode>Satisfactory: not. can't manage blueprints, most likely never will>spengies: regressing as fast and hard as sid meier's civilization series>zachtronics: retiredfrom what i see, beyond city-builder-like /egg/s like CoI or Timberborn or workers and resources, we've only ever had decently really polished and complete /egg/ games ever: factorio and KSP the scene does not appear to be improving, but seems to have collapsed into every single /egg/ either dying, dead, retired, or in DLC farming mode, the game equivalent of a shitcoin rugpullingagain, NTA, maybe A meant something else entirely
>>551363167time to buy one off steam
>>551363087That /egg/ games are a dying genre and it makes me sad you stupid fucking retard.
>>551363771>dsp steadily continuing development>motemancer getting weekly updates
>>551364271dsp has slowed down development and started using ai generated assets
>>551365059false and false
>>551366452by assets i mean audio assets (voice acting). and maybe more
>>551367325oh no ... it's retarded
>>551367325>started using ai voice actingpoint at this poster and laugh
2.1 will save /egg/
>>551368419Why would anyone load up a new save just for 2.1?
>>551367850>>551368383are these posters bots?after the dark fog patch, over two years ago now, they very obviously started using an AI voice actor and used it to replace a previous real voice actordismissive, no-argument having weak bot posters BEGONE
>>551368754begone non believer
>>551370958I'm not sure what would make me want to do anything on factorio until I'm done with py hold on for me for another 1k hours(unless you can just run 2.1 py just fine)
>>551370958A mysterious new post has surfaced in the Stormworks Discord, sparking speculation about its creator. The community is asking one question: was this made by /egg/? and was it released?We wanted to know whether it was designed for a train or a boat, if it included a cargo selection system within the blue box, and most importantly who built it and what its intended purpose was.
>>551370154>schizo has a meltie again and starts spamming stormwank
>>551372487Why are Stormworks posters so unhinged, anyway?Or, why do the unhinged flock to Stormworks?
>>551372487huh?i'm not the schizo stormworks poster you fucking faggot
>>551363771>>551361202Besiege is still getting content/QoL updates a decade after release
>>551360805Working on fulgora too long makes my head hurt from the vfx and audio of the storm, wish I could turn that shit off. Oh and the periodic bot deaths alarms. Gleba too but much less, from the screen wide effect
>>551371659you can cover up to 45 degrees from the center block of the emitter
>>551363771CoI only has the supporter edition DLC with a bunch of cosmetic shit. They are still adding content and mechanics to base game.Satisfactory is finished. It's the exact same factorio is in now, or was before the dlc release.There are new eggs released very oftenComparing other eggs to factorio as a standard is dumb as it's an exceptional game, the kind of game that makes everyone in the gaming kingdom turn their heads around and travel to see what all the fuss is about, like bg3, or gta v or euro truck. Comparing them to factorio on the basis on polish is mega dumb as it's one of the most polished games ever, maybe THE most, as I'm genuinely struggling to find one more polished. And it's not even polish, it's czechCount yo blessings, huwite male, other genres have it way way worse. Anyway factorio should go open source for 10th anniversary
I don't understand why I should build a dedicated steam prop instead of using abstract power transmission propellers.(1/2)
>>551380015Maybe you can connect multiple props to one engine?I think one piston almost powers one prop.Still huge.
>>551380015(Of course, steam props are cooler.But it's like if bots had higher throughput than belts.That isn't very cool.)
>>551371659
>>551383502kek
generational run
FTDDo ring shields boost all layers of your armor (depending on where the shell is coming from), or only the outermost layer?Tooltip on the shield generator block implies the former.Tooltip on hovering over armor with shields enabled implies the latter.
>>551372603>Why are Stormworks posters so unhinged, anyway?despite making up 5% of the posts stationeers and stormworks make up 90% of the meltdowns
>>551373379>Besiege is a decade oldDear god
The older I get the more I want to turn Christmas into just another holiday where I play Factorio all day. Every year, my crackhead family comes to my house for a week just to call me a failure.>"Your house is too far from town">"You don't even have enough bedrooms for all of us!">"It's nice that you get to play with your computers thingy all day but when are you getting a real job like your brother">"Your food is garbage">"Why is there no Christmas tree?" (They set it on fire 3 years in a row)>"Your decorations look like shit">"Why aren't you married? Are you gay?" (My fiancée died 2 years ago)And this goes on and on. Every year, I just end up asking myself "Why do I pay over a grand to feed my family for a week when they'll just trash the place and complain the entire time?". Maybe it's a class divide thing. I'm just casting pearls before swines.Anyway how was your Christmas /egg/?
>>551399251Unfortunately it's the cost of having a relationship with toxic people.Do you actually spend time with them otherwise?Do you have other friends that would help you in a bad spot?Would your crackhead family even help you in a bad spot?
>>551400028>Do you actually spend time with them otherwise?No. Not really. We're all too busy and don't have much in common.>Do you have other friends that would help you in a bad spot?Luckily, I do.>Would your crackhead family even help you in a bad spot?Likely. They're somewhat loyal despite how toxic they can be.
>>551399251at the ripe age of 28, i have successfully completely disconnected from every other human. no friends, no family, no loved ones, no coworkers, no customers, no clients, no bosses. nothing. it took me a while to do it, but so far it seems personally very worth it.i will spend my christmas doing pretty much the same thing i do every single day, playing /egg/ games, "working", and cooking my ascetic mealsi did make myself hot chocolate for once which was surprisingly good, turns out you don't need milki bought myself stormworks and am playing with modular engines
>>551400952If they would help you out, maybe there's something to salvage.Have you leveled with them on how discouraging their complaining is?>>551401070Anon....At least you've got /egg/, I guess.
fulgora is overwhelming, a lot more so than gleba>recycle gears to iron plates>iron plates to steel if steel runs low, but also recycle steel if there's too much>recycle concrete, turn iron ore into iron plate, but also destroy it if there's too much gear>recycle LDS for copper and plastic, also retain or destroy the steel, but keep a certain amount because it's needed for rockets>recycle copper if there's too much copper cable>keep solid fuel for rocket fuel, but also destroy it to save one water>park a platform in orbit collecting ice, but only break it down if there's a lack of it on the ground, but also recycle if there's too much>stone>etc.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>551401305Yes and they don't care. But that's the kind of things I should talk about with a shrink.
>>551401305>Have you leveled with them on how discouraging their complaining is?you've clearly never had to deal with toxic family
>>551402460thankfully not
>>551399251who cares nigga
>>551401523Fulgora is love. Fulgora is life.
>>551401523It can be a real pain if you're trying to scale up. But just beating the planet is simple if you set up a sorting system.
>>551399251>Anyway how was your Christmas /egg/?Same as every year, I spend weeks figuring out decent gifts for family depending on what they like/need and all I get back is just a shitty gift card that's exclusively valid in a couple chains of shoe stores, meanwhile there's 6 separate gifts for my older sister under the tree and she isn't even here this yearso I'm just gonna lock myself in and play vidya
>>551404891Welp. At least you're gonna have some new shoes! (which you won't wear anyway, because you don't need shoes to /egg/)
>>551405002yeah but this is the 10th year in the row this happensI don't need yet another fucking pair of shoesat least one of those stores sometimes carries some other stuff like backpacks so I got one 2 years ago from there but at this point, it's just fucking uselesshow many pairs of shoes does a man need for fucks sake, three is already enough
>>551404575>i set up this contraption to make the stack inserter only take items if there's >= to its hand stack size of them>mfw i see this webm and remember they work like that by default
>>551405078I think you need to do that anyway with multiple items so it doesn't get stuck waiting for something that's rare. I had that issue when doing quality scrap.
>>551405620yeah, i just realized that the only thing i messed up is the iron chest really, that's unnecessarygood old 1.1 habits
>>551332219Because platforms insist upon themselves.
>>551332517>insistence upon a single intended solution to the gameThey're going to make promethium spoil aren't they?
>>551405862there will be a mod reverting that within the first 30 minutes after the patch releasing, maybe even 10
>>551352267>I didn't expect it to bee this bothersomeI love puns, but this one ... this one is so bad it stings.
HOLY CRAP LOIS FACTORIO REFERENCE?
are YOU a modded portal power user?
>>551406138You bet I am
>>551406138>crass fake engagementWhoever lost his time programming this should get fired.
>>551406286it's literally just steam for people who don't use steam
>>551401305>Have you leveled with them on how discouraging their complaining is?That never works. The root of the ongoing toxicity and complaining is in practically all cases the fact that they're sociopathic or self-centered to the point where they're no longer able to relate to or place themselves in another's perspective. Literally asking them to do what they have already proven they cannot, is not going to be productive. It's just going to agitate them, rattle the cages, and produce more toxicity in return.The only thing which is going to actually resolve it, is to take a firm stance that they can either "agree to disagree" and leave it at that, or leave and not return.
>>551406138Oh so THAT's why the entire mod portal was slow as fuck at one point the past few days. They must've been redeploying a new version and rebuilding cache.
>>551406374https://mods.factorio.com/mod/K2-fuelsAre you telling me there's no config for this at startup for k2 anymore
>>551406345>The only thing which is going to actually resolve it [is to fake my own death]FIFYJust leave the crabbucket, anon.
>>551406494i can't recall how was it in 1.1 anymore, but i remember it removing tons of startup options once it was updated to 2.0
>>551406497No- "leave and not return" as in; kicking them out of your house. If they're self-centered dickheads they won't want to ruin THEIR Christmas, so they'll think twice about pissing you off again.The point is to make it about THEIR needs; not YOUR needs.
>>551406138i wonder if there's even a lower limit or does it say "power user" for everyone
>>55140679050?
>>551406602That's ass. It used to be a default option. I mean, I didn't use it, but at least it was there.I won't shame you for it then. Merry crimbo.
>>551399251crackheads don't have houses
>>551399251More and more people are just dying while the rest are just becoming more distant. If I want to have a family in the future I probably have to make it myself
py on christmas is chinese water torture
>>551409834I celebrate on the 24th and now everything is closed so games are the only thing to do
>>551331709Now I want to make a Christmas mod for factorio (just adding Christmas gifts that can be built by assemblers) anybody have a guide on his to mod Factorio?
>>551410109Add a santa hat to py caravans and call it a day
>>551410252sex
>>551410252You wouldn't even know what to bus blind
>>551410278calm down it's just spaghetti
>>551410278That's a man, baby.
>>551410361is that so
>>551410451I'm gonna parm
>>551409889I'm going to read a book.
>>551410764Don't read 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, it's so fucking boring
>>551410764Ive been finding it more time efficient to just audio book while driving
>>551410804It wasn't so bad. Verne's description of marine sealife are probably too verbose by today's standards but at the time they must have been like talking about never before seen animals by the common gentleman. It's period-appropriate.
>>551410252nakadashi inside her
>>551411083>>551410278>pyggas so thirsty they wanna shag a dude in dragwomen do not play factorio
>>551411174ACKSHUALLY Katherine of Sky is the single confirmed biological female that plays Factorio
>>551411174she has boob armor, so she's a woman
>>551411202She's single??
>>551411202Yeah, but she's fucking ugly. And she turns off biters.>>551411218I have seen the artist's twittershe is trans
rent free
>>551411317nah, I enjoy his py images, we even had it as the op a few threads agoI just have to explain the obvious
>>551411261>Yeah, but she's fucking ugly. And she turns off biters.is this the /egg/ equivalent of>we could be killed, or worse...>expelled
WELP.Since, I don't have to help Plane anon anymore since he's solved his pid problem lack of gyroscope.I suppose, I can build a train. What power train should it have?>Steam Electric>SuperCharger Diesel Electric>Steam Direct DriveI have three designs that, I could build here they are.>Super Long>RO-RO>Common Layout
>>551412223Here's the RO-RO shape.
>>551412310Here's the Common Layout.
>>551411405but that is what rent free means
>egg when someone posts spaghetti
>>551413080Today is 'sghetti day.Lay it on us.
>>551412415Here's the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER LONG.
>>551413214only had those two I'm afraidno idea where I got them from either, they've been in my /ck/ folder since 2017
>>551413080I am capable of perceiving her fat nuts and erect cock.
>>551411261A hole is a hole. If it makes my dick hard, it's female.
>>551415401You mean (You)r erect penis.
>>551412310>>551412415>>551413331While, I wait for this doing some more development of steam pistons. Think, I've found a solution to high pressure and low pressure cylinders that mirrors IRL steam pistons designs.
>>551405078You can use a constant comb
>>551410109You add prototypes in data.lua and you set what needs to run during the game in control.lua. everything is reskinned and renamed vanilla machine
>>551417693What's that?
>>551417969https://wiki.factorio.com/Constant_combinator
>>551417969
>>551363771gtnh development is still ongoing!
>>551411261>sheso a pooner?
>>551418427py is our gtnh
>>551380015You can get way more power out of a steam prop
>>551420790gtnh is so far removed from py is not even a funny comparison nigga
>>551423235They're both difficulty-focused community-developed modpacks with a fuckton of content
>GPU can't render DSP at 60 fps in late gameIT'S SO OVER, goodbye 500€ at least
>>551425105>takes a loan for a cpu bottleneck
>>551421529He's right, you can get alot of power from steam pistons.
hey everyone, grinch spending my christmas on 4chan here;Can nuclear fuel be put into rockets in any way? I vastly prefer it over rocket fuel
>>551401070milk makes it a lot better, hot chocolate made with water is thin and sadwhat do you do for work?
>>551408045on the bright side family planning can be treated much the same as a successful factory with all the parts working together in tandem, if you're the family patriarch.Mine refused to spend thanksgiving or christmas with me last year after I'd been out of town for half a decade as a teenager. It's not like I had a choice, and when I came back as an adult finally ready to meet my family as a real life person they wanted nothing to do with me, won't take my calls, etc. I can make assumptions why but I still don't know. So instead I made my much older brother go to AA meetings and got him off meth now that I'm back in town and I get to be the weird uncle for my neices.Giving them life advice, cooking for them, cooking for my brother, helping them with jobs and their livelihoods and getting them to work together on things is like an engineering project- social engineering I guess but I just want them to live fulfilling lives and to help me feel fulfilled by actually being able to be surrounded by people I love on christmas and on thanksgiving, instead of getting ghosted by the people who were supposed to be my family.
>>551426106I'd love some input guys.>>551427652I don't think that can be done in stormworks.
>>551428332>I don't think that can be done in stormworks.seems ridiculous that no sci-fi oriented or engineering oriented game has played with the idea of a nuclear bomb going off to launch something into space as fast as possible. Like a rocket.
>>551428646explosions aren't optimal for acceleration
hey guys I discovered pinswhy doesn't this shit have a button next to add tag and add ping
>>551429253what about an explosion contained in a tube that is sealed off from one side
>>551432371oh christ, is that where that gun meme is originally ripped from?
>>551432371Specifically engineered for a slower burn
>>551432581nice fat twink cock, faggot
>>551428332long carriages look a bit off in trains. I think just the front half of this image seems like a good size for a single carriage. with the current length, it should probably be a good bit taller and wider to look right.
>>551428308I just see time passing and everyone older dying, so within 20 years or so I don't expect many older than me
>>551434639Ie me and my cousins are the oldest of my generation(very early 30s), none of us have had kids, all the older people will be far gone soon enough, and if nobody does shit about it that's about it
>>551424409don't make me laugh
>>551439708>no argument
>More MoteMancerI'm using an old version from July off of TPB, and it seems impossible to leave the Plane of Water because I can't place any of the master crafting stations. It seems to me to be a bug rather than something intentional. If you are doing this, I recommend the Plane of Fire instead. One interesting thing I tried was putting a loop down the water portal so that I could feed it a life runestone from the other side. This does work, but it was still 1-way.Something that wasn't very obvious is that it's possible to transmit power through the portals. But coming from the Plane of Life this is not very useful because on the remote side all the mote patches are too far away, and on the local side the portal is also likely far away from you. In the Plane of Earth you get Factorio-type powerpoles, but of course you can't use a building in its opposed plane.The different little mechanics, power-poles, etc... they just don't feel as interesting as they ought to be. Not worth buying.
>>551441334gtnh is cookie clicker for retards, py is brain damage simulator for nolifers
>>551442590gtnh is a big tutorial into a patterning simulator interrupted by designing new linespy is balancing one thousand plates on one billion sticksbut they have the same spirit of a modpack so large and grueling you start contributing to it before finishing
I just ended tutorial and unlocked all the given technology options on the same world, can I still evolve my technologies like science pack production (the purple thing) or the game caps a roof limit to what can I unlock in tutorial world? I like that world because of the pre-buildings so I want to still on it, but I am afraid I can't keep on it.playing raw game with no mods or dlc.
>>551447669bro's playing the raw prawn
>>551442590>gtnh is cookie clicker for retards
>>551399251>(They set it on fire 3 years in a row)
>>551447669anon you'll probably won't get an answer because none of use played a tutorial in a long time, or ever
>>551447838I can understand your shock. You are indeed brown.
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IndustrialRevolution3PatchsetIncoming hissy-fit bitching in T minus ten./egg/ might want to secure downloads of the IR3 mod and add-on mods before Deadlock catches wind and delists all his work again, like he tried to do with IR1 before.
>>551451130>macOS/Linux only for nowabsurdly fucking based
>>551450463There is no shock, I am saying that "cookie clicker for retards is a pleonasm".also I am not even the other guy you retard.
>>551451130I kinda don't care but good on the man for doing it
generational run finished100%
>>551451130Does this - or will this - include the addons?Airships and Space Mining look cool.
>>551452601omg your cock must be so huge
>>551452601grats
I hate Satisfactory's 3D-ness. Everything is a chore. Everything takes 10 times longer than in Factorio. Why can't I stop playing?
>>551457612you must be spiritually redditorish
>>551447669You are limited to a fairly small subset of the game’s content in the tutorial.
if your space platform can't travel between planets without taking damage to walls at the front, then it isn't worthy of space travel
stationeers bros, how the hell do i setup solar tracking?the horizontal rotation works fine, but the vertical seems to be fucked, as in it goes from 90% tracking to pointing in completely the other way over the solar cyclethe circuits are : read H/V from sensor -> add configurable offsets -> write H/W to solarsis there some advanced fuckery with placement direction of the panels/tracker, or did i mix around a horizontal and vertical component somewhere due to how fucking dogshit the input selection on the chips is
>>551458915>walls at the front
reached yellow science in py, 1500 hours.
>>551463239That's due to the way the daylight sensor and solar panel angles are offset to each otherHorizontal + x and y - Vertical should work.
>>551469094
>>551469094it didnt post my picture ffs
>>551469094that's a lotta hourslooks like it's almost entirely a railbase? but there's some sections that don't look all that connected
>>551469961basically all railbase, 4000 mk3 trains
>>551470083
>>551469094>30 UPS
>>551470885power demands
>>551469094>>551470083>1500 hours>4000 trainspy is deranged
>>551470553>training steambut why>two whole turbines providing 95% of powerbio being its usual nonsense self? you got greens in there?
>>551471794wtf is that consuming 109GW?
shiiiit
how would you check if tanks have the same fluid type?
>>551469094how does it feel to dunk on pseuds all day?
>>551469094How do you feel? What would 10 year old you say?
>>551477980add the signals together and use a selector combinator to count inputs. 1 input is same fluid type, 2 is different fluid types. maybe make a special case for one empty tank.
>>551477980you can use one decider combinatorsee pic rel, then just check if output signal `A` or whatever you choose is not equal to zero as your "tanks have same fluid type signal"
>>551480918whoops, use pic rel instead, a lot less schizo and simpler way to do that
>>551480918>>551478437>>551481272ty ty I was trying to some shit with combinatornow different question, can I get a recycling result somehowor even more advanced, modded "recycler" result (composting in py)
>>551478265I am a pseud, just stubborn, Py is great btw
How is Captain of Industry on the level of Factorio?
>>551482884recyclers just spit out some probability of the ingredients, right?no idea what you actually want out of it and this would be mega ugly, but you can just build an assembler, set its recipe manually or via signal, then read the ingredients from that assembler to get the recycler resultsyou'd also need the right assembler building (would need to do this with a chem plant to know the output of a battery)it's either that abomination or just hardcoding whatever you want in constant combinatorswhich makes me think whatever you want is probably best done some other way, since that solution just sounds unappealing
>>551485196well I wanted an automatic "anything" composting station in py
>>551485472last time i played py the composter just takes anything and turns it into biomassi made a powerplant on the pyserb server with a composter that takes in fish, kicalks, arthropod blood, xyhiphoes, etc.i have no idea what you're talking about then
>>551485726I have a dynamic priority system that adjust value of each item, I wanted to design a composting block that takes any item as long as turning it into biomass is positive expected valueI have such a thing for fuels, but there's a comparatively much smaller amount of them,, in comparison to composting which you can do to almost anythingI guess I'll settle for doing it like I do with fuel and just manually adding outliers
>>551484626More complex than vanilla factorio.But it's only really comparable to a point. It's definitely different enough to scratch a separate type of itch.
I feel like I watched every single factorio video on youtube
behold, a zero signal
Theres a group making lossless copies of Reboot off of D-1 master tapes, and the guy showed this shot of the D-1 player pulling the tape out. I had to make a clip of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L00jx-GH2w8
>>551484626Far harder and more complex than vanilla factorio. Fucking up and running out of maintenance is 10x worse than running out of power in factorio. Screwing up leads to death spirals if you don't know what you're doing and can't fix it in time. It actually used to be even harder before they lowered the normal difficulty and put customizable options in.
>>551494625Captain of Industry is a constant battle against death spiral.
>>551495601Plus it has player traps. >Upgrade ship>send it out to new islands to find corn>brings back super aids and now I have -999 health every flu season
>>551496125IS THAT WHY I ALWAYS HAVE A FUCKING FLU???
I've seen someone do it before but I can't figure out the exact mechanism, how do I 'prioritize' sending common items to the left and the right of the splitters in this picture while sending excess common items and all uncommon, rare, etc items right down the middle lane? Every way I change it all that happens is it goes 'welp I filled up either X belt or Y belt completely and now I'm done' when what I need to have happen is overflow. Do I need two splitters for this? it's very very crammed but I can move the design around and make space.
>>551497004you want something like this?also fuck this captcha why do you have to submit it before hitting the post button instead of just choosing the right one
>>551433651Okay. Since your the only person who replied to my question, I will redesign based on that input.Thank you.Here's the proposed layout of the pistons and wheels but this is not yet optimized.
FTDHP per cost scores:Heavy Armor - 60Metal - 84Wood - 240This is fine for frag and explosive, those shred through wood.But fast kinetic shells have plenty of AP, no sabot needed.And lasers start at 40 AP, or 60 for continuous.Excess AP doesn't do anything, and armor stacking only seems to check one layer.Something needs to change.I can't use 20 layers of wood without slowing the game down.
>>551497769this is EXACTLY what I needed, yes! Any way to compress this contraption down into a smaller space or am I just SOL?
>>551498098probably SOL that's a very common and unsimplifiable pattern i've used all over the place on pyserb
>>551497960Slight modification, after some input.
>>551498098>>551498191I am a genius I am a god I am the greatest factorio player that every factoried
>>551499946this looks like very ugly, I like simplicit.
>>551498650After further input, It would appear stormworks is very indifferent wheels.Effectively optimal perform just add more 1x1 axles.
>>551469094are you going to retire (kill yourself) once you reach phyrric
>>551457612>adding a heckin doggo before automation>adding arachnophobia mode>being swedish
>>551457612>Why can't I stop playing?Shit taste in the soul
>>551469094Why did you choose py4's enhancement turd specifically?
>>551469094That's cool.I'm rolling the bee gacha right now, I've got 15 pulls left
why does scrap even have solid fuel as a result?
>>551507492same reason it has ice
>>551507519do not reply to me ever again
>>551507748sorry
>>551507778for party rocking
>>551507748hi
>>551470885the human eye cannot perceive more than 30 ups
huh... i just realized i dont' have to balance any resource on fulgora, i just place like 1k yellow chests, and once they're full i just blow them up
>>551470553why are you not using generic trains?
>>551503137that's when you start megabasing tho
>>551508248fucking basedit's the factorio classic>die doing something goofy, spawn with a useless pistol and shit ammo>what do?>stick in a wooden chest and shoot it until it stops existingi wonder if you could automate thatfirst thing that comes to mind would be dr. evil tier rube goldberg nonsense:>combinator logic that will have bots build logistic chests which request excess once some "need to destroy shit" signal is reached>same combinator logic will turn on a bunch of machines that just waste energy and produce pollution>situation this near a biter nest>have artillery or a spidertron or a flamethrower turret nearby and rig the whole thing up such that the excess items are "coincidentally" destroyed as collateral damage due to your defenses attacking the biters you just provoked on demand
>>551508248I had a dedicated artillery cannon to blow up overflow chests remotely from anywhere.
>>551508871>i wonder if you could automate thathow about building a spaceship, putting your chest of undesirables in the front of the ship, accelerating the ship to a high velocity, and running it into asteroids with turrets disabled
>>551509139>chest of undesirablesbelt of undesirables*i forgot that SA ships can't have chests on them
>>551509139Might as well throw it overboard at this point.
>>551481272Does this actually check correctly? Wouldn't the red and green selection on the left hand limit the "each" signal to be "each (red)" and "each (green)" - thus never reaching the "= 0" state because there is no zero signal value?The straightforward solution btw. is to use a selector combinator in count mode.It outputs the unique number of different signals that is input to the combinator.Follow that with a decider combinator to check if the value is "< 2".That covers all cases of "not mixing fluids."
>>551492080That should vanish as it goes out on the wire.
>>551509431there's a picture earlier that shows it checking correctly for these cases, which should be comprehensive:>two empty tanks: no>one empty tank: no>two nonempty tanks but mismatched fluid: no>two nonempty tanks with matching fluid type at the same quantity: yes>two nonempty tanks with matching fluid type of differing quantities: yesthe logic is very straightforward>for each type of thing being input>is that type of thing not zero on red>is that type of thing not zero on green>if both are true, then output some signalit's also just one combinator, not a chain of a more expensive selector and then another decider
>yeah I'll make this one recipe output cool thermofluid instead of warm so you have to make one more 500 meter pipe back to the cooling arrayWhy?
>>551511115play the earendelgame, pay the earendeltax
>>551509431which one to use depends on what exactly your required use case is
>>551502680What does stormworks do when someone tries to drive a long as fuck un-articulated train round a corner?
>>551502680>>551498650What design will you go with? or are you waiting for that guy who replied earlier to pick for you??
I needed a heavy lift quad added some guns for measure, as last model got shot down on a server over sawyer.
>>551511686It derails.>>551512416Yup, I'm pretty much waiting on that. I want to go with the optimal axel spam but like if he wants steam then i will go with it.
>>5514526012.1 will add new achievements
>>551510338Thanks anon. Didn't know "each" still represents the full input set of signals on both red and green, even if limited to only one wire by unchecking the other. Very interesting.
>>551514464that's actually why my first attempt looked so schizo and messy, i only just figured that out when i made thatspecifically, not just "each" representing the full input set, but each input of the full input set distributed across the entire "conditions" section one input at a time>each red>AND each greenmeans if we had water and oil as inputs, it should be checking>water on red>AND water on greenand then>oil on red>AND oil on green
>>551508871just dump shit out in the open and let the lightning deal with it
>>551469420spent some time logging the sensor output and figured out the problem, yeah
>>551511686On that topic, I was doing some exploration of steam powered. If it's steam powered, still waiting on someone to say yes or no. Then it would consume alot of space on the frame.
>Landed on GlebaThis fucking planet is AIDS and I hate it
>>551359034I don't get the asteroid grabbers meme, none of my ships have ever been starved of asteroidsIf anything quality engines are more useful for inner system travel because engines are hard capped by their thrust to width ratio, so a more powerful engine with the same footprint allows you to go faster than is physically possible with low quality engines. But speed is not that important either and also for outer system trips, damage quickly becomes the bottleneck rather than engine speed anyway
>>551517394Are you gonna articulate that?
>>551519428Of course, I am going to articulate why wouldn't it be? I have a SRC height reference on the back to make sure it's compatible with SRC and i'm just building frame for the articulations.
>>551519428
>>551363771DSP>>551367325>voice actor in a factory gameI struggle to think of a more irrelevant aspect of the game
>>551368419I think I will finish my megabase before 2.1 drops
>>551391660I'm unironically waiting for SA 100% speedruns. Base game 100% is fun to watch up until they start working on the 20M green circuits achievement which adds 2-3 hours of extremely boring and repetitive slog at the end of every single run; it's mildly interesting to see how this phase got optimised over time to drastically speed up production and runs went from like 9h to sub 5h, but it's still bloody annoying to watch.SA is inherently a longer game and has no particularly grindy new achievements, and 20M green circuits is vastly, vastly easier to achieve now. The last achievement would likely be the one to travel far enough towards the shattered planet, that or the prom research if runs end up doing a deep run on their first trip without ever turning back and bringing back any prom to research with first, and watching speedrunners optimise a ship that can make it like 100Mm or whatever into the shattered space is going to be way more interesting than watching them copy-paste a green circuit churning module twenty times.
>>551520119>Of course, I am going to articulate why wouldn't it be?The pic you posted with all small wheels doesn't have any articulation gaps, implying a rigid design
>>551399251Honestly genuinely why are you hosting them on Christmas>the house is too far from town>you don't even have enough bedrooms for all of us!Are you the one inviting them? If so stop. If they're the ones pushing onto you just grow a spine nigger rather than just fantasizing about it in blogposts on /vg/
>>551521376>>551521376I don't even know if i'll be doing that yet and even then that was like SUPER WIP, I'm waiting on a reply for small wheels or steam powered wheels. >>551512416 >>551512872Once, I get a direction i'll commit and begin building my body on the articulations. Could be steam or it could be 1x1x1..
>>551404575how do you make something like this wtf
>>551522265Oh, That's easy. You copy the blocks placement exactly then you have what he has.
>>551418076>literally a non-constant comb
>>551522420funny, you should try comedy
>>551522479well post one smartass
>>551522553I actually do.. ..you might of been the anon that five years ago suggested that i should.
>>551522723you should quit comedy
>>551522789Sorry mate, I get paid for it. You wanted this, you can't kill the monster you created.
>>551457612Getting shit to finally run gives a sense of accomplishment I never got from Factorio.
>>551524824broken brain
There is honestly absolutely no reason not to buff the atomic bomb blast radius in 2.1>without increasing damage, it won't become too powerful against demolishers>I've never tried it on pentapods but I think they already die to it so it won't matter too much, they're also much more spread out than biters>its main purpose is biter area clearing and right now it sucks fucking balls>they buffed the cost significantly so really making it more powerful wouldn't even be OP, if anything for 100 U-235 you expect a more proper nuke than just a discount davy crockett or something>giving it more risk of blowing up yourself or half your base would also make it more fun and awesome (in the original sense) to useIt wouldn't break any of the balance, it would be vastly more fun and less tedious to use, and feel vastly better, more thematically appropriate and cooler
>>551471794>two blue fans making 140 GWfascinating
>>551521376>>551522142So what will it be? anon.>STEAMOR>1X1 WHEELS
>>551526915It makes sense because you're going to use terawatts of power by space science.What terrifies me is the 30 ups.
>>551469094How long in real time? As in when did you start this playthrough?I always wonder whether the people who are able to do this shit no-life it for 6-8 hours per day, or whether you're just playing the same save for 2-3 years without updating the mod?
>>551499946I love schizo solution that arise from the problem of>I made a compact build but now I realised I need to completely change the belt logic and I am not redesigning my entire build's footprintTight belt spaghettying is like a minigame inside factorio and it's so satisfying every time you succeed in solving it
>>551526171But enough about Factorio players.
>>551522126It's only 30 minutes from the city center and 10 minutes by foot from the town center. I don't live in the middle of nowhere. It takes about 20 minutes to get to my parents' place. I could understand if it was my siblings who complained since they don't live anywhere near as close. But they don't. They're really glad not to pay for a hotel room. And it's not like anyone is sleeping on the floor, there are 2 guest bedrooms and the living room has several additional sleeping space, 2 sofa-beds and a recliner.Now that I think about it, everything I complained about comes from my parents. My grandmother, my siblings and their kids don't actually cause problems. Maybe I should just tell them that they can go spend christmas and new year's eve alone together if they're just gonna complain about everything.Thanks, now I know the cause of my problem.
>>551508871>>stick in a wooden chest and shoot it until it stops existing>not making a collection of all your spawn pistols to store for the memoriesI always have one next to the spaceship debris on nauvis. And one on each planet near spawn or near the cargo pad
>>551499946niggas will do everything but use logistic bots
>>551527171I just find pY fascinating. The progression from hundreds of generators producing a few dozen MW, to the three tiers of abstract fan blade icons producing incrementally more power and the current bulk of anon's power being made by just two generators, combined with how meaninglessly abstract the icon is if you don't already know what the building is, is amusing to me.>upsUnrelated, but I wonder if inserter clocking even helps in pY? It might improve the impact of large builds, but of course given anon's screenshot it looks more like death by a thousand cuts from a thousand independent small builds than any single large build that could be clocked to reduce inserter lag.
>>551526956The guy you're waiting for would probably say steam. Who doesn't like steam?
>>551527795What I meant was more like why doesn't everyone go to your parents' house, why are you the host?I'm not saying the complaints are legitimate, I'm just saying since your post gave the impression that you hated doing it then you should't be hosting in the first place. It's your house, you get to invite who comes to stay over at Christmas. The complaints are just a convenient excuse >you always say it's too far, doesn't have enough beds, and doesn't have a christmas tree, I was also busy with work this year so didn't have time to set everything up, I won't be able to host. you can host at your house! :)))))
>>551507492so I can make legendary rocket fuel :D
>>551526798open a suggestion thread
>>551528669What do you mean by inserter clocking in the first place?
>>551532003When you connect inserters with circuits and only enable them when they're ready to swing. It's much more UPS friendly because circuits are multi-threaded, each inserter just waiting for the circuit signal is super cheap, and one circuit connection watching for the correct number of items to exist is much cheaper than having all inserters constantly scanning.But it doesn't work for picking up from a belt (obviously) and also you need a separate circuit for every build, and while it's cheap, you still get a lot more benefit if you can clock a few big builds with tons of inserters slaved to one circuit than if you're slaving together like ten machines and you have 2000 independent builds.
>bought Kaizen since it's supposedly a spiritual successor to Zachtronic gamesKinda fun but feels like a glorified sokoban with more steps.
>>551532428I remember moai talking about something like that in his vid and how it would basically create the same amount of UPS overhead as the inserters
>>551528846My parents' "house" is a low income apartment with a deaf neighbor maxing out his tv and an elderly no-fun-allowed granny who goes to sleep at 8pm on Christmas and sends noise complains if you breath too hard in her general direction. So that's a no go. Everyone else either lives far away or don't have the space to host that many people.
>>551532642Well he's wrongIt already was a viable strategy even in 1.0, and I think multithreading the circuit networks happened in 2.0 (I might be wrong though) but either way it's objectively the superior way to build endgame factories. At least in vanilla because like I said I'm not sure how useful it would be in pY builds, it also requires the machines to be synchronised obviously so if your build isn't running at 100% capacity the clocking will be off.
>>551528680Why do you think, I made a steam set first. I'm waiting for someone to say steam just to screw me.I haven't done any work on 1x1 wheels yet because, I'm preparing for the inevitable screwing with steam pistons.
>>551533490will you fucks go back to your hole already
>>551532465i got like 80% of the way through it and got bored. the challenges got repetitive quickly and i felt like they were more tedious than difficult--there is no win condition requirement other than to just "make the right shape": you can use as many parts as you want, as much time as you want, and as much space as you want, as long as the end result shape matches the spec then you win and get to pass to the next level, which i don't like. making the later-game shapes is sort of challenging but the solutions still get silly if i can put a billion rails and riveters and cutters everywhere with nothing stopping me, other than perhaps my ego if i land happen to score low on the histogram, which i don't particularly care about. perhaps if you're one of those people who cares about histograms then the game would be fun for you, but for me personally i would just like to play a normal game where it's the developer, not the player base, who decides what's good enough to constitute an actual win condition.
>>551533932is it possible that there is some userbase overlap between factorio, zachtronics, and minecraft? no, the posters must be trannies
>>551532258never had uppies issues with fulgy-wulgy with like 10K bots flying around
>>551536002what using a cpu from this decade does to a nigger
HEY PID ANONI need to make a PID for my variable valve on my steam engines air intake as i dieselize it.tell me what i need to do.
>producing 3 belts of coke per second as a byproduct if just trying to make some tar
>>551521332there already is anon, I watched it while I was doing my express delivery runit really shows how much vulcanus and nauvis are fleshed out compared to other planets
>>551537618tar is a byproduct not a main product, whatchu need this much tar for
>>551537797>tar is a byproductTar \is\ *the* productrubber, gasoline, aromatics, plastic, syngas, coal coke, organic solvent, coke, tailingstar is literally the foundation of pyanodon
I won
>>551538776cool.
>>551538776>I wonNo world wide factoryoptimized your productionunlocked achievements
>>551538776Great. Buy stormworks.
>>551538776Wait, base 2.0 also has the soulless ass victory screen now too? Fucking garbage
>>551547084that's a mod bozo
>>551547173The victory screen is clearly not from the mod retard. It says "you won by launching a rocket into space" when the mod victory is from some spaceshit thingamajig and anon has probably launched thousands of rockets into space already to reach itUnless you're saying that anon specifically installed a mod for his victory screen for some unfathomable reason (I'm pretty sure that's not actually possible with the modding API)
>>551547369no, that's the old end screen from DLC-less factorio, with a header from the mod he's playing. the new ending screen is different and let's you upload your base to a map of stars that everyone who else who beat the game can see. I haven't gotten to it yet to show you, but I read it in the patch notes.
>>551547369he also didn't even beat space exploration, that's the fakeout victory screen anyways.
>>551547830>that's the old end screen from DLC-less factorioThe old end screen just says "victory" and lists the number of kills you have on every entity, wtf are you talking about
>>551538776>base win screen broke nigga alert
>>551548554How old? Just to be sure I'm not being gaslit I went and found screenshots of the stats-list victory screen from before the new UI overhaul even. Are you telling me that in pre-0.16 versions they had a fancy art victory screen that they then scrapped for years?
>>551549016it's saved as victoryv2 on the factorio wikihttps://wiki.factorio.com/File:Victoryv2.jpgexplicitly DOESNT say space age though. there's the original victory screen from pre 0.16, the new(er?) victory screen that still plays if you're not using space age (ie also in the space EXPLORATION mod when you get the fakeout ending) and the other new victory screen which is for when you win space age and reach the planet that was promised to our ancestors three thousand years ago
>>551550367>summary: victory screen in 2.0So it's the new victory screen, you are spouting bullshit and my original post was correct>the new(er?) victory screen that still plays if you're not using space age>and the other new victory screen which is for when you win space ageThey were both released with 2.0 and are the exact same age you absolute mongoloid chucklefuck, they are both the new victory screen.They are also the exact same victory screen, space age just uses a different image (a stock spaceship instead of the stock rocket) and I think slightly different text ("you have beaten the game by launching a spaceship to the solar system edge" or whatever), otherwise it's the exact same screen and is THE new victory screen, contrasted with the stats-based victory screen from 1.0.Wait, unless they had already changed the base game victory screen in 1.0 and I just never noticed? Is that what you're trying to say? I could've sworn this was new in 2.0 but maybe I'm just going insane, it's been absolute ages since I last played vanilla pre-SA
>>551550367I thought you were talking about the old version with waves of biters and the placeholder defense structure or whatever the fuck it was. Back when the car was literally a car
>>551550940>Wait, unless they had already changed the base game victory screen in 1.0 and I just never noticed?Yes
>>551551615Okay in that case I'm retarded and you were rightI am even more disappointed now though
>>551551615No it is not. The victory screen is new to 2.0, I just swapped to the 1.1.110 beta branch to check. Also this is the file history on the wiki page.
>>551528195Yes. Logistic bots shouldn't be in the game.
Is there any reason whatsoever why personal roboports don't have a bot inventoryWhy the fuck do I have to manage 139 bots in my inventory when literally nowhere else in the game do bots need to live in any chests/inventories outside of roboports (except when being transported for some reason)
>>551555635probably because it would be very awkward to have a separate inventory-in-a-submenu-in-a-submenu?
>>551555903How often would you need to fucking edit it though, you place your bots in there once and it only ever becomes a problem if the die for some reasonIn a pinch, equipping a personal roboport could add a separate column alongside the three gun slots, allowing you to place robots into an "ammo"-like slot. But IMO that's not even really necessaryIt would be way less awkward than having bots constantly leaving and entering my inventory, interfering with my inventory management, being unable to dock inside my roboports when my inventory gets filled from deconstructing a lot of junk, etc.>deconstruct a big build>paste it two tiles over>bots are deadlocked because my inventory is full so they're just stuck forever holding bits of the partially deconstructed stuff, never being able to start constructing the new pasted versionThis problem should never happen, and it doesn't happen ever with normal roboports, only with personal ones.
>>551556479>How often would you need to fucking edit it though, you place your bots in there once and it only ever becomes a problem if the die for some reasonOr if they move around to separate roboports, as the game allows you to command them to do.
>Get logi bots in py>Minimum speed so they won't revolutionize anything
>game about logistics and making machines feed resources to each other>make a robot that moves all of the items in every direction so you no longer have to think>this somehow didn't kill the game
>>551557545Your personal robots never move to another roboport.At least, I think. They never do so normally, so I assume they're also immune to explicit requests you can now set, though I've never tested it. It'd be really fucking weird if it pulled from your inventory though.
>>551560596Like I said I don't think you canProbably can do it with a mod if desired but not as a built-in mechanic
>>551557772They're situational and not the game changer you expect them to be.
>>551550995the old car should be a supporter skin>you can mod itand everyone who plays with you gets it and also has to get the mod
>>551555635>literally nowhere else in the game do bots need to live in any chests/inventories outside of the robot chests
>>551563538Precisely. The player inventory is not a "robot chest" if you want to be reductionist that way. You place several "personal robot chests" into your inventory but for some reason they have no chest capacity and instead you have to use your main inventory (which is again, not a "robot chest")
>>551557772the absolutely do thostart working on multiple builds at a time and all you'll have to do yourself is run around to grab shit to craft the buildings for botsis there "amount of buildings placed by bots" somewhere to see?
>>551558072bots are shit at moving items in any significant quality consistentlyvanilla doesn't even have battery research, just speed, and all it does is increase the % of time they spend charging at roboports that have very few charging spots and shit charging speed, a belt is moving it's items forever, a bot base will eventually hit a recharge wall that forces you to rebuild and spread shit around more to add extra parking lots, uh I mean roboports
Egg? /egg/!
>>551515404Isn't the answer just to just give the sensor the same orientation as the solars? Been a while since I've done solar tracking.
>20 monstrously large kicalk plantations for a whole .2 kicalk/second
Where's part 2
>>551574278for vertical you need (sensor * -1) + 90deg, aka 90deg - sensoryou can fuck around with the orientation for horizontal(placing the panels and sensor while looking the same way won't align them right)however, i made a horizontal offset too, so it's less fucking around with re-linkingit also lets me offset +0.5deg to get an extra couple watts per panel
>>551577921>it also lets me offset +0.5deg to get an extra couple watts per panelElaborate on that
>>551578143for me, default tracking results in 99% efficiencyadding a tiny offset on horizontal gets it to 100, and only drops to 99 for a frame every couple secondsinb4 it's a machine processing order bullshittery and it's supposed to give 100% normally
>>551520445>2 sets of driving wheelsBig boy energy
I have a phd in factorio. That is, I don't play factorio but I know a ton of technical details about it and did a ton of experiments in game to see how things work.
>>551583569Did you know that Factorio is literally programming?
>>551583569If you've ever edited the wiki or posted something original here, you've done more with your "phd" than I ever did.
>>551509082>Pure squeezed eggOkay so being the fucking leaf that I am all of my products are named in English and French.You know what Egg nog is apparently called in French?Milk of Chicken
>>551587804>Le Cock Milk
>>551394983Can any FTD bros answer this?
>>551537634Oh wait fr? Shit I missed it being done, gotta check it out>10 and a half hoursYeah that's only 3h longer than the default settings run, seems like it should be way more interesting to watch than the 1.0 ones
I'm having a unique kind of midlife crisis. The kind where I'm not disconnected from current technologies, I'm not alienated by younger generations, I'm not suffering from the rapidly changing society and I am fully aware that 2007 is as far from current year as 1988 was back in 2007... But I'm the only person I know around my age to have fully adapted to everything. And I feel alienated from my generation.
>>551587804Do you not like ze lait de pute?
>>551587804but bird milk looks like this
>>551591850The fuck!? I want some!
>>551592018they're pretty good
made a plasma turretit has ears to find the enemy and a tail for balancenya :3
>>551593326The red highlights mean its disconnected
>>551593720I haven't placed the mainframe yet.
>>551593763How dare you
>>551526956>>551528680>>551533669Well? 1x1 or Steam.
>>551557772they're pretty godlike for a mall
>>551591346kill a young person, wear their skin and assume their identity
>>551564607You can use both at once and just move low-volume, high-value items like electric engines and science packs around.Still an absolutely broken mechanic.
The slowest thing in my py science pipeline is now stone bricks. Genuinely considering if pitch to stone from tar processing is better than just mining it, I already have some of that going but I can make more
>>551591346I can't relate are you 50+ or something
While I wait for someone to tell me whether I should build a steam train or do axle spam with 1x1s…I’m refining my steam engine’s furnace box. I added a PID, and it’s been a while since I last used one of these.I need to invert the output, but right now I haven’t figured out how to determine the diesel burn rate. This PID will be used to control the variable valve next to it for the air intake.
>>551607635*Whoops* I forgot the image.
>>551607774progress
>>551574910if you took the lmao2wood turd it's literally more efficient to use wood until you get kicalk 2s and kicalk3 as a processing recipeWith trees2 it's still more efficient, but it's just that the amount of wood processing units required becomes kind of silly.
>>551615442All it consumes really is a trickle of steam the plantations are just fuckhuge and relatively expensive for what they produce. I only set them up for colrex or whatever they are called
>>551607519I'm closer to my 50s than my 40s.
>>551627167Essentially, yeah. I was sold on Kicalk as a fiber substitute but they're really just used for korlex.>>551628262understandable then.
>>551628262I figure thats why i cant relate
one of usone of us
>>551634374>snoozybus
>>551591346It's always hard being based
>>551634461I don't understand the meme, breaking bad is worse in that way.
>>551587804Just don't mistake the 'lait de' for 'lait du' or you're drinking coque milk.
>>551634676what an odd person.
>>551634374
>>551646056Does a taylor series suck my dick without asking and then make 10 songs about how it was too small?
>>551330578>make airplane in FTD>no matter what it just immediately noses down into the ocean>everything seems balanced by any guidance tool>still noses down anywaysguess I ain't making a meta craft.
>>551646056what the fuck is up with that ESLglish
wonder if you can savescum mk2 animals.
>>551647212noses down with or without AI? AI fucks up a lot. if it's manual control then yeah you fucked up, might be the controls
>>551653282Looks like you can.
Is it just me or is factorio easier to get sucked in and lose track of time than satisfactory?
>>551615151Got it working for the most part just need to tune it, basically it turns on shuts off air and fuel exhaust to control temp and save fuel.Going to rip apart other people's designs to figure out how to optimise it better.Meanwhile started looking at medium steam wheels just in case someone says use steam instead of normal axles.
>>551657730someone already said steam.
>>551634374>carol is a train autist
>>551657886As far as I know it wasn't the guy.
>>551563780How are you being forced to "manage" robots exactly? What overhead are robots in your inventory creating that can't be solved with the tools the game gives you?
>>551659890Personally, I think you should be building a steam electric but that's just me.
>>551660006>inventory close to full>trash some stuff>but be careful not to click on the robots :)))>ctrl-x a big build>inventory fills up>whoops bots can't dock anymore :))) even though I have eight roboports in my armor :)))))>add or remove roboports for some reason (e.g. swapping between building and combat armors)>number of robots is now incorrect>either manually adjust your logistics request, manually dump them into a chest or pick them up, or carry around a few stacks of completely non-functional robots :))>want to build a very big build (e.g. a shitton of walls, or rails, or something)>materials are prepared>dump normal inventory into chest and pick up all the building materials>don't forget to not dump your robots or go back and pick them back up manually from one of the four chests with all your stuff :)))))))))Just off the top of my head.>can't be solved with the tools the game gives youEverything can be "solved" but solving a problem takes extra effort and is what I'm complaining about.There is no completely automated solution to ensure that you always have exactly the number of needed robots in your inventory no matter what. If the game had a "super logistics request" functionality that overrode everything else no matter what AND automatically calculated the number of roboports in your armor, adjusting as you rearrange your armor, maybe that would solve it. But pending that there are guaranteed to be times when the robots in your inventory get in your way and require manual management.Really, personal reactors don't take fuel and bots are super cheap so it wouldn't even be unthinkable for personal roboports to come pre-filled with bots. The only issue with that is that it would make it impossible for bots to die, but bots returning to the inventory is already kinda cheesable in that you can bypass charging requirements by manually picking them up, so making it a bit more cheesable seems whatever.
>300+ logistics robots>290 construction>Few construction bots die every now and then to bugs>"Might as well automate building robots to 300 total each">Set it up>Go do shit for a few hours off planet>Come back>600+ logistics robots>Accidentally assigned the factory to read construction robot count instead of logistic
>>551668954good, now add a few thousand more
>>551668954anon thats barely any
>>551668954???I have 3000 of each because I just set up a crappy automation line and forgot about it for a few hours.300 bots cant do crap.Speaking of bots, is there some kind of locality thing to them? I dont understand how they actually work or where they "live."I suppose I can always just get tons more or speed upgrades and carry upgrades for them, but that seems to be the brute force way to improving them
>>551671771>Speaking of bots, is there some kind of locality thing to them? I dont understand how they actually work or where they "live."Bots live in robotports.The green box is where construction bots service, the yellow one is for logistic bots.Bots share the same "house" (logistic network) as long as the yellow boxes overlap (it draws dashed lines between roboports).You can have different logistics networks.
Why are the serbians having so many problems surviving on vulcan? Seems pretty easy to me.It's day 28 and I still didn't feel the need to deploy a cooling solution or h2 combustor. The arc furnace degasses at 0C so that's free gas for pressurizing the base.
>>551671771What the other anon said, but also after finishing a task they'll just go hibernate in any random nearby roboport so if you have alternating major construction requests on opposite sides of your base, all your bots will migrate to each side every time for example.It's not really a big problem worth solving in most cases, but you can set robot requests in a roboport and then it try to fill itself with at least that many bots, so if there's a construction or logistics request on the other side of the base that pulls all of the bots over there, once it's done some are going to go back to refill the roboport's request rather than just sleeping in nearby roboports on that far side.
>>551673218don't
The ridiculed belt based space ball fondler has been working flawlessly for hours now. And I lied, I didn't win the game. My midwit IQ allowing I will decipher the constellations and activate the gate and win the game for real.
>>551675852Nobody's really using those display monitors vanilla added are they
>>551676903They have their uses
i know i built an automated wiring factory, if i take some out of the dimensional depot it starts getting replenished, but i have no idea where on the map i actually built the fucking thing
>>551666723Just like i thought most of your problems seem to be caused by yourself
>>551658751Oh yeah, that too
>>551679029>50That's nowhere near enough bots>logistics requestOnly solves one of my stated issues and only if you patiently sit and wait and don't run outside of your network range to keep building some outpost
>>551680762you've been humbledPlease desist
>>551680953>I have no argument therefore I will beg for him to stop replying
>>551682237I'm ntaI don't care about arguments, i didn't say that as some sort of petty gotcha, i'm only telling you that you're making things harder for yourself for no reason.The primary requirement of any system should be having as little requirements as possible.
Honestly speaking doing this for mk2 animals is retarded since they require basic components over and over and they're half the chance, but for the arquad queen? It really just saves you a ton of overhead.The queen assembly TURD exists, yes, but If I can just choose the "give me everything x5" turd instead I'll just take that.Also it means that now I have the means to just set up the area to automate another couple of these without having to rely on creature chambers to make sure that whatever happens that 0.5% chance isn't a catastrophe.
>buy 20 units of cheese, 50 units of oil, and 6 eggs from a food trader for like $200 in total>grow some tomatoes and wheat>run intergalactic mcdonalds and sell burgers for $350 eachTime to build an automated oven
Behold, Ive made the angels bio trees work on gleba
>>551673218>2-3 more mouth breathers and pants pissers>have to deal with sleepers & dead bodies>nobody's really in charge of anything>can't pause while programming>making serious automation investments is dubious because who knows how long the map will last>everything is way more disorganized>sometimes miss a session>stuff changing behind your back>base atmosphere regularly catches on fire for no discernible reason>he set something up the way he likes it which is not the way you like it>people wanting rescuing (in single-player you're forced to respawn)>only play like 4-6 hours per weekAnd personally I keep basically my entire storage in my backpack in single-player, which would be inappropriate on multiplayer.And in the positives column:>someone takes care of mining & smelting sometimes>someone takes care of trading sometimes>someone takes care of crops & food sometimes>someone can (theoretically) hand stuff to you when you're outside>respawning gives a bunch of useful resources now>>551686758Hell yeah, space boigs.
>>551666723>whoops bots can't dock anymore :)Can be trivially prevented by using filtered inventory slots.
>>551690002>refers to fellow /egg/ineers as "mouth breathers" and "pants pissers">needs a leader, but won't lead or commit due to fear and paranoia of map resets>exploits respawning ("gives a bunch of useful resources") nullifying what it even means to survive and making now-meaningless survival trivial due to effectively spawning in water and oxygen on-demandjesus christ you are pathetic
>>551690002>he set something up the way he likes it which is not the way you like itHow autistic do you have to be to join a multiplayer server and expect everyone to set everything up the way *you* like it?Like, damn, I know it's the engineering games general, but c'mon, man.
>>551690002Yeah it does sound like hell if you describe it that wayI decided to just buy water and nitrogen/oxygen for now because the burger business is going so well, I need to spend the money somehow
>>551647212Check the adjustments tab of the AI.Default is way too low, try 150m above water and land.
I'd like to record FTD more but OBS crashes my computer for some reason
>>551673218i assume it's because we are using liquid /pol/ as the main source of cooling instead of using AC'strying to make make a constant 20C thermal battery where it fills up with liquid at night and evaporates it off during the day, but am experiencing some troubles:windows shatter at 300kpa and /pol/ is liquid at several MPa, is there any way of using a sealed off room as a gas/fluid tank? i like seing the orange visibly pool up instead of being just numbers in the pipesyou can't connect fluid pipes to AC's, so actually heat exchanging to the battery seems like a pain in the ass
>>551706923>is there any way of using a sealed off room as a gas/fluid tank?It's been a while since I played stationautism but I vaguely recall there being a reinforced door or wall/window that was rated for seveal MPa.
what's the point of mining/demolition charges when a canister exploding due to overpressure has>smaller material cost>fucking huge blast radius>higher potential to accidentally kill youwhat's not to love?
>>551706923>using liquid /pol/ as the main source of cooling instead of using AC'shuh?>are you trying to cool a room on vulcan without air conditioners?>if so, why?>if you won't use air conditioners, you need to drop the temperatures in stages, and 65 degrees means you only ever had one working stage. try to follow the aforementioned build (pic rel) and see where you went wrong. note, doing this is horribly inefficient; use air conditioners>if you are using air conditioners but still can't get below 65 degrees, you are doing something impressively wrong. post a save and maybe someone can try to diagnose/troubleshoot>TL:DRwithout using air conditioners, to cool a room on vulcan with "just liquid pollutant" you need to make a sort of multi-stage (5+) joule-thomson cryocooler, which is what pic rel is. this is very inefficient, bulky, and not simpleor you could just use air conditioners
>>551708036The only advantage I can think of is precision, and that's just a skill issue on my part. I do like over charging canisters and just randomly flinging them outside to make craters around my base.
>>551653582I can get it to fly straight perfectly fine, but the AI has no idea how to make a water recovery. >>551696437How's the aircraft supposed to reach that altitude when they are launched off pads only 20m above sea level?
>>551690475Wait you can do that now? Alright that helps solve a couple more of my edge cases, ok based, that's actually useful to knowNot as good as not having them in my inventory, but having bot-only slots at least avoids a decent amount of annoying cases
test
>>551676903They've been essential for me.
After conversation, I'm building the wheel train this is the articulated bogey system. I will go with.. It's relatively compact and allows for the most amount of movement.
In a straight fight, this thing is not great.206K cost for 37 firepower.(It abuses spinblocks pretty heavily.)But it goes 201 m/s on the map.It's still not as accurate as I would like, not sure if that's due to enemy craft wobble messing with the AI, or weapon inaccuracy.I tried to make missiles that can hit the Casimir, but it just wouldn't happen.Most of a salvo will miss, and the few that hit only scratch the paint since it's mostly fins and fuel.
>>551727779You can use this type of articulation.
>>551733253Or.Bit more fancy..
>>551733448don't draw anything every again
>>551733253>>551733448Thank you
>>551733253I will give a in depth explanation on what's better at somepoint but both equally work. First I'd recommend.
>>551692460parasites like that plague every project and company.
>>551731640This is much better.99k material, 29 firepower, 190m/s, and it stays on target this time.
>>551739707oh wowit reliably rams into itusually that's just a fluke
>>551740171also, this thing abuses spinblocks quite a lot
>>551740561I did make a cheaper craft for hunting fliers (41K), but it's a little unstable and has to be piloted and aimed manually.It also has only one layer of armor.Cost effectiveness is hard to beat though.This also abuses spinblocks, most of my craft are dirty cheaters.Though there is a limit to how much you can add relative to your ship.Eventually you trigger a "subconstruct drag multiplier" that slows you way down.
>>551741405please stop blogposting or I will be forced to spam the thread with chinese translations of DSP reviews.
>>551741491Why?
>>551706923>>551709331Liquid POL + ACs is the way to go.Draw in night air and liquefy the POL -> store in a tank -> evaporate while dumping heat into it from an AC cooling whatever you want cooled.Stable temperatures and AC runs constantly at 100% efficiency if done right.I'm working on a really good design right now based on that, might post a schematic of it later.
>>551741697I'm just joking because the stationeer autist that had specific meltdown is here. Don't worry about it.
Hate these little shits.
>>551742484jokes on you, that autist trained you to successfully stop blogpost spammersgood work
>>551746071>joke's on you, you're making fun of me in publicNo, you haven't.
>>551689257Is that a mod or smth?
>>551746873he's managed to hack the agritower to accept angel's seedsangel isn't SA compatible at the moment and there has always been a specific building to grow treesit's a cute, flavorful change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPBGZcTRqothe factorio 'tubers are really scraping the bottom of the content barrel, what nonsensical gimmick will our boy dosh have to resort to?
>>551750129qrd on this video?
>>551750552Mainly just explaining the process of getting it to run. Not really that interesting
>>551750129>the factorio 'tubersThere is one factorio youtuber and his whole shtick isn't only playing factorio.Stop watching idiots being retards.
>>551750552
>>551750129that sounds gay and retarded and not actually retarded to factorio. nearly slop farm level.now, playing factorio exclusively on an embedded computer behind the assembly arms of a car factory while nobody's looking, that'd be fucking worthwhile
>>551750129It's the same issue Minecraft has. The interesting part of the game comes with redstone, but the moment you say "circuit logic", all of the normies leave. If it isn't "just build more" factorio or a mod gimmick, it's dead.
>>551751415>It's the same issue Minecraft has.Minecraft is a game for children.
>>551751431And Factorio is a game for teens.
>>551750129>what nonsensical gimmick will our boy dosh have to resort to?it's overhe has no choice now but to upload a full py playthrough and getting all the achievements
>>551751431Lego is for kids
>>551751519>>551752319It's a statement, not a comparison. Minecraft is a popular game for children and the audience for videos is children. Might as well get angry at roblox.
>>551752740>Minecraft is a popular game for children and the audience for videos is childrenThe primary audience, sure.
>>55175296090% of the audience is the primary audience, yes.
>>551753584Picture a small technicolor horse.
>>551753806I am doing it right now.
>kelvin effectwhat the fuck, where's the catch?unless i'm misunderstanding something, the pressure in the tube will be higher than above the rest of the fluidwhat's stopping us from putting a mini-turbine on top of the tube and extracting infinite power?
>>551754362oh boy time for another LE BOIL WATER reddit argument
>>551754362
>>551754649>Live on giant ball of molten metal>Boil water on crustWe should just keep digging
>>551755469We are, actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_EoZzE7KJ0
>>551754362>unless i'm misunderstanding somethingthere are two possibilities80% chance that you misunderstood something100% chance that oil barons won't allow it
>Man eating lunch at the US embassy in the Janus system, 2186 AD
>>551752740>Minecraft is a popular game for children and the audience for videos is childrenEven if we assume everyone watching Factorio videos is an adult, the problem remains:No one is sticking around for combinator logic.
Black Mesa's so good it's unreal
>>551756916>No one is sticking around for combinator logicpost your unloved and unwatched combinator logic content here and we'll see for ourselvesif the fridge guy can pull shit loads of views when his videos are 80% powerpoint slides and equations in MS paint with the occasional meme, there's absolutely no reason an autistically in-depth combinator video can't also be interesting, right?
when was the last time you used XOR
>>551757624in some extremely long lost save by now, i made a linear feedback shift registerthat needed XORthat is, if you're talking about factorio or /egg/sotherwise, within the last week for "work"
>>551757746>if you're talking about factoriwhat else would i be talking about unc
>>551757282I don't know who "the fridge guy" is, but I don't mind giving it a shot.Are you supposed to use OBS for this?
>>551755772Not sure i want to take heat out of the mantle of my planet, maybe it needs that hot stuff to function as a big magnet.
>>551757896just put more heat back in when you're done with the heat you took out, easy peasyfly out and take some heat from the sun every now and then if needed
>>551757896>The flow of heat from Earth's interior to the surface is estimated at 47±2 terawatts (TW)[1] and comes from two main sources in roughly equal amounts: the radiogenic heat produced by the radioactive decay of isotopes in the mantle and crust, and the primordial heat left over from the formation of Earth.>Earth's interior heat contributes only 0.03% of Earth's total energy budget at the surface, which is dominated by 173,000 TW of incoming solar radiation.looking at it like this, chink solar panels almost sound good
>>551747047entertainingly, you have to hack the treesfactorio now has plants and treesplants can be grown trees cannotBut I have a basic template now that can grow all three trees and then scattered them on glebaI can extend this to all the crops as well, plus make them viable on nauvis
>>551757879I think he means that one guy that does homemade engineering project in his garage with the weird name, someone used to post it here
what isbthe difference between the red and green circuit? it storages different paths of information?
>>551757896>Not sure i want to take heat out of the mantle of my planet>my planetGet your own fucking planet
Anon is there any mod to skip all manual space ship building/flying thing in Factorio? I hate it so much.
>>551761090Saar please return to designated shitting thread./egg/ is not designated shitting thread and is hunting ground for train.
>>551761090Each red or green wire stores and constantly outputs all information it receives to everything touching the wire. If a red wire carrying "A" and a green wire carrying no signal connect to the same place (such as a combinator), the information isn't shared. It allows you to make two distinct sets of information, even if they have to go to the same locations.
>>551757624daily
>>551330578KSP2 is a metaphor for everything transgender
>>551763970>the immersite ore is trans>how>this account has been blocked
>>551757282Making a demo video.
>>551765740we prefer the term metamorphic
The slaughter of innocent bugs is why you feel bad when you play factorio.
>>551766459>Innocent
>>551766459it's ok, the bugs don't actually feel pain
>>551766459Fuck China, it's my planet now
>>551766459but the most enjoyable moment is in fact nuking them though?
HELP, I ACCIDENTALLY MADE 30 DOLLAR TRAIN YARD A RADIOACTIVE WASTELAND.I WANTED TO BUILD A REACTOR, CREATED CHERNOBYL.
>>551766459I can't remember the last time playing Factorio made me feel bad.
>>551767527nice manga, can't wait to read it
Come to think of it, we're about 13 months beyond the point where we should have gotten an e-manga or doujin or something of the fem-engineer and a biter queen with the fetishes of weight_gain, force_feeding, oviposition and interspecies.
>>551766459Look at Michigan, getting uppity that we turned the water green
>>551761216>he hates the best part of the gamehuh? when you reach a flow state and and you end up with a good design.....not a better feeling in the game
>>551765740KSP2 does not have immersite ore
>>551766459The real way to play Factorio is to walk to the nearest bug nest and let them kill you before you do anythign else, giving you cassus belli to shut up those pesky xeno journalists
>>551750129Sex mods.
>>551769571Oh, I thought he said K2.
>>551768464It's much more efficient to go commission it instead of unsubtly hinting at it here
>>551752740>Might as well get angry at roblox.There's already plenty of other reasons to get angry at Roblox, anon.
>>551766459I play Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries when I first unlock and let loose with artillery, thoughever ...
>>551765884Hearing my own voice is off-putting.
>>551757282>>551773212Catbox is failing. I can't upload the video.
Anyone here tried Captain of Industry? Thinking about getting it right now, how does it compare to Factorio? I like its ides of combining city management with a Factorio-like.
>>551776241Decently fun.
>>551773212YOU CAN'T UPLOAD AUDIO WITH WEBMS ON 4CHAN..
>>551776909I'm using catbox.
Welp, Tried the new system looks like i'm redesigning thank god i haven't committed to anything.
>>551777821Forgot image.
>>551775362https://files.catbox.moe/exvudr.mp4It finally went up. A public speaker I am not.
>>551773212route your mic into your output for a couple days. it fades quickly
>>551779907Guess I will.
>>551778328next time write a script
>>551778210
>>551776241bought it a few days ago after playing a pirated run before
>>551784595Well, It's a bit more compact. I take it your the one messing around with fluid heat sinks?
DocJade is waving his floppy disk around. Took him long enough, unlike his disk.
>>551787859I tell ya one thing, it brings me back to the days of playing age of myth multi-player in a LAN by taking the disk out when you hit the main menu and then passing it down the line.Whole game still worked except the soundtrack wouldn't play, which IS tragic because-https://youtu.be/CtZzvHBKzw0
>>551761216there's space age without space, if you want thatit's not great in terms of actually making biomes but it does let you skip platforms
>>551761289tf you talking about>>551761509that sounds like overconplicated.
>>551792064Red wire and green wire no touch both real
>>551784595Made for human men
>>551784595hehdildo machine
>>551784595Is that the 15k swatts engine? Is that not totally overkill with the wheels slipping way before all that power could be used?
14 year old me: "I bet you could use capillary action in permeable materials to generate hydroelectric energy..."me 20 years later: "You can't, but I don't actually understand why so I'm just going to say 'friction'."
>>551797567elaborate
>>551797726Capillary action allows fluid to wick upwards against gravity in a sponge-like substance, which would add mass to it without needing outside energy, the substance would become heavier and perhaps drive a mechanism of some kind. on the return trip it would be shedding mass as it drips and evaporates it's load.I dunno it's the kinda shit you imagine when you're bored out of your mind during a lecture in high school.
>>551798432how is the absorbent material removed from the water
>>551797567Life was better when I didn't know about the laws of thermodynamics and entropy
>>551799173If the material were composed of a belt you'd need to have the removal side have different environmental conditions in which evaporation is faster than wicking. Which I guess is the sticking point.At that point I guess you're already looking at a situation where you might as well just boil water.
>>551798432>>551799454This would work I think. Ultimately it would be solar powered. It would be really shit though. Completely not worth it.
Now give me your balls
>>551801590Supermegajewtrooninator 10,000 SD Deluxe Edition
>>551757896That's for someone else to worry about later. I'm sure they'll figure something out before it all goes to shit.
>>551805154>I'm sure they'll figure something out before it all goes to shit.
wait logi science needs cottonguts too???
>>551808794
>>551809496fuck me
>>551809742Holy shit how did that take you so long
>>551809906Im slow
>>551809742>600 hours for 1 cottongutPy is not a race but god damn
That could have gone through the 16 guns on the vita planet
>>551807748>Brits reinvent the Brazilian electric shower
>>551810850Even though the big boi defense cannons have 80% accuracy, there mathematically is not an amount that you can build that will completely prevent slip-through.The amount of damage that a can be caused by the occasional missed asteroid is minimal, unless it's a planet with Biter Meteors, in which case it's better to just build defenses than to trust that the place will always be sterilized...
>>551808794setting up studs is kind of annoying but regular cottongut production isn't that badkind of slow as shit tho
>>551810283WR pace
>>551814987I think the nests will announce themselves soon enough even if I don't notice the message. I'm glad you can configure it to only show for asteroids that slipped through.
>>551818237>I'm glad you can configure it to only show for asteroids that slipped through.huh, I didn't know that. Is that new to spess 2.0 or am I just dumb?
>>551818589The previous version of SE I played was 0.5 and I don't think I combed through the settings back then so no idea.
>>551818237
>>551738034he's a parasite for not being willing to lead but you're not a parasite for not showing him better?
>>551798432anon if you harvest energy from the gravity produced by the rotation of the earth like that our planet will eventually stop spinning!
>>551823695whatever, I'll just get out of bed and start spinning clockwise.
All the shit talk makes me want to get stationeers and come soil my pants with you
>stationeers air conditioners need 10(ten) watts to run>a wall mounted lamp that lets you see wtf you're doing(up to 2 meters away) is 50W>active vent is 100W>AC's can move 13KW of heatwhat in the god damn...? if we want to save power we can try to concoct some passive vent multi stage abominationbut honestly, i don't think we need to, building more solar panels/batteries is much easier and will cause less headaches but also less FUN than an abomination>>551824279it isn't worth 23 credits and i hope serbhost figures out how to port forward and makes a dedicated server so we don't have to rely on steam P2P which blocks pirates
>>551830083>AC's can move 13KW of heatcareful with that malinformation, comrade
forgive the spoonfeed, but ive got the flu and cant think well. i started this world back before space age and im thinking about picking it back up. my spidertron and artillery are gone and it looks like getting them back means visiting the new planets for various mats and research. is the proper approach to load up a murdertank and get a starter base going on each planet, then pipe it all back down to Nauvis? any suggestions on where to start?
>>551834542Just start a new game like intended
>>551834542>You can migrate from 1.0 to 2.0huh. That sounds awful!
>>551835140>>551835206ah, well here i go then. ill just pull all of my books over and be a good gamer. cheers
>>551832976explainreading the AC's display, the number reports up to 14KW, depending on conditionsat steady state mine reported 5KW, and the heat exchanger also reported 5KW - are both those numbers wrong or are you preemptively warning me not to utter the heat transfer and power consumption at once, lest someone divide the two and lose their mind
>>551836126those numbers seem exactly right, i calculated that it seems ACs can do something around 6500 joules of perfect heat transfer per tick (2 ticks per second would make that 13KW, i may be a bit off so our numbers may be the exact same) at 100% efficiencythis information can be upsetting for some who frequent here because of the cognitive dissonance formed when you also take into account that the stationeers server has, despite their best efforts, failed to cool a base for the entirety that it has been online with any amount of air conditioners (last time i checked, they were using 4+)
~250spm of shit science on rubia with two beacon'd assemblers. It was an okay mod. The automation puzzles are interesting. The aesthetics are awful though. I have a 1kspm build with trains all sketched up in the lab but sometimes it's better to just wallow in shit spaghetti patching things until it's good enough. The next meme planet on the menu is pelagos, which at least is pleasant to look at.
>>551760043Are you going to upload to the mod portal when it's done?
>>551761090>it storages different paths of information?If you mean what I think you mean, yes.Here's an example.
>>551766459>actual bug sympathy
>>551796793I might steam electric it
>>551844775when I first saw a bee as a child my parents said I froze. just screaming in terror
I like breadboards
>>551776241It's alright. I don't think it is as satisfying, but the landscaping you can do makes for some pretty fun times. Very easy to death spiral because of a billion different things
>>551844775Yeah this is retarded. Humans are obviously instinctively disgusted or scared by certain bugs. Maybe someone had this experience with a cool beetle or something, but humans don't have to learn to not like cockroaches.
IMA FIRIN MAH LASER, BLAAAH!!!
>>551852327>by certain bugsScale it up to at least the size of a small biter (around large dog size+) and we'll see how long you'd be willing to abide it's continued existence.
>>551778328You have a good voice for youtube videos if you ever want to make one someday.
>>551787859It was funny, but he could have used something very very compressed and uglier and it would have been the same video from my point of view.I remember a funny factorio demake image, with ascii-like characters. Can you imagine remaking the game but all graphics are in the terminal? That would be crazy, and it could maybe run on fewer floppies.>soundtrackDamn, I should play these
>>551789026Forgot to (you)soundtrack is really good
>>551861662Thanks.
So, I got a problem with factorio trains, it is about the sense of direction of the train stops.In two stops, it actually works normally, but in the third one, it inverts the directionwise of the train movement, making it return "no path" and breakung the looping..This is an image that ilustrates my problem.
>>551865794Use a system of 2 lane tracksOtherwise you have to do "precision scheduling" and then your Amtrak is useless
>>551865794I don't believe your image illustrates your reality
>>551866626nigga you want my save or smth?
>>551866657I want pictures of your stations while the train goes 'no path'
>>551866721
In what world does >>551866996 even remotely resemble >>551865794
>>551866996
>>551867105funny how that goes
>>551854395Are you trying to snipe with pac?
>>551867105It is an over simplification.
>>551867284Do you have problems with remembering which is left and right?
>>551867406I am right-handed.
>>551867782Put the station on the other side of the tracks.
>>551867239Yes.The goal is to kill the biggest of craft, a Megalodon or a Singularity.PAC is nice because it's instant, can have a decently long charge time, and is unaffected by smoke, LAMS, or interceptors.Field of fire is there to show where I can safely build, although maybe I could make the horizontal 1 degree since it's on a turret.
>>551834542why is blud putting roboports in the middle of the ocean
>>551867859...Dammit.>Call a doctor immediately if you experience charged particle vaginal discharge
>>551868171Free building space.>>551868605>blud
>>551830083ACs use 10 watts idling, 350 watts when workingThe only odd one out is the active vent, because it compresses gas to >500 bars like it's nothing for just 100 watts
>>551873751> >500 barlol what.
>>551868434>for just 100 wattsRam pump does it for free
>>551874263The pressure ranges in the game are off. Gas tanks can hold 60MPa pressurized gas while looking as flimsy as their 600kPa real life counterpart. Most atmospheric machines also don't have a concept of pressure differentials, so they move a constant volume of gas, ignoring the pressure on the other side that would make that process much slower with real physics.
>>551874838>so they move a constant volume of gas, ignoring the pressure on the other side that would make that process much slower with real physics.Shamefur dispray. Even stormworks will pump faster or slower depending on pressure iirc.
>>551868605ok my clod
>>551865794traffic direction depends on which side of the rail stations/signals are placed oneasiest fix would be moving the red station to the other side, so traffic always goes counterclockwiseyou could of course make a monorail, but you'll need to make "passing places" in strategic locations and be very careful with your signalling
>>551873751i checked with the network analyzer and it always reported 10Wanother thing i found out is that if you're trying to run stuff with insufficient available power, it'll work with a 50% duty cycle, regardless of how much power is availablea transformer set to output max 10W will "power" a bunch of heaters and shit(normal draw 6kW, reported heat transfer 3kW), they'll just toggle between being on and off every second
>>551876981lmao
>>551810175> Already has roboports> Already has 23k worth of rail network stamped down> Has a ridiculously overscaled 28 research centers> Doesn't have cottonguts yet, i.e. not even at logistics science yetYeah- you brought this on yourself.You're not slow, you were attempting to optimize prematurely.I'm at 300hrs and have a trickle of logistics science cooking on the back burner, accruing and allowing me to push through a few of the techs to improve coal processing and allow better use of coal power to scale up power properly, to go through the niobium refining line, to get large power poles and allow me to build a proper wide-area railbase with proper power distribution, and to give me logistics bots in a logistics-based mall that can auto-construct all the building shit for me.
>>551877806I mean, he already said that he's slow
Got a new PC running Mint (because fuck upgrading to Windows 11). Does the native linux version of Factorio allow cheats(mods), or do I need to run the Windows version through Proton?
>>551880152Yes mods just work on all factorio versions
>>551880152factorio runs better on linux as a whole>mintI dislike a lot of things in the new version but it's a "good enough" entry distro if you don't wanna bother with anything specific
>>551880313Thanks>>551880562>it's a "good enough" entry distro if you don't wanna bother with anything specificThat's why I am using it.99% of my PC's runtime is split between shitposting, streaming videos and playing vidya. As long as it can do those three things, I'm happy. The fact that I now don't have to worry about the egregious amounts of spyware in Win 11 is the cherry on top.It took me 2 days to figure out why games wouldn't run when installed on my secondary NVME drive (I hadn't reformatted it after pulling it from my Win10 PC).I still don't know how to stop making that drive appear as a removable device, and every reboot I have to go into Steam's settings to get it recognised as a viable library location, but that's for future me to solve after the new year
>>551881324>As long as it can do those three things, I'm happy.see, the main issue is the playing vidya partit's a perfect OS to read your mail, post on 4chan and watch youtube vids, but it lags behind in any other caseI'm currently sitting on 21, avoiding 22 and I'm going to check out 23 when it coms out next year, people have been shilling cachy pretty often so that's my second option
>>551881603Depending on what games you play it's even better than windows in a lot of casesSure, garbage that uses kernel level anti cheat won't be running on linux ever, but everything else just werks. Install steam and run everything through it with proton, pirated or bought doesn't matter.
>>551881603Not that mint guy but I reckon over 90% of my steam library runs on linux.
>>551881603>see, the main issue is the playing vidya partI guess that I'm lucky, then.I don't play AAA shooters, 90% of what I play is single-player, and everything I've re-installed works near-perfectly (after I solved the drive issue).I'm sure that I'll eventually have ACTUAL problems (RIP all of my Total Warhammer 3 save data), but until then it does what I need it to do.
>>551882053I should add I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. If it doesn't run I just give up. Someone who actually knows how to tweak proton or wine should be able to run everything.
>>551881603>it's a perfect OS to ... run a web browser
dll mods when
Stationeers, the plan isn't 100% up to date because i've been busy like hell but here's the most details I could put in. It should help the latest comrade who joined to grasp the situation and get something else to do than mining ores. A side note related to that, terrain deformation causes host anon's PC to slowly die from some memory leak and extensive mining eventually requires a server restart. Well the last update seems to have improved things like I havent seen any desync last session either... But to be safe if you need to disconnect, it's preferable to restart the game entirely. Not on the plan are the two deep miners collecting coal and iron.
>>551885814And here is what I deciphered the spaghetti to be like last time. It has been slightly altered since, but if that could be rebuilt without doing knots with the pipes, that'd be great
>>551874480omg akizet real
>>551838923>6500 joules of perfect heat transfer per tick (2 ticks per second would make that 13KWdon't think this is the case, near 100% efficiency you can get 14kJ, and potentially more than that if waste and input aren't at the same tempi'm assuming the dev is retarded and can't tell joules from watts, or perhaps intentionally put joules near heat to make mixing it up with electrical power impossiblemultiplying the atmos scanner measurements by 2 just because it reports joules/halfsecond seems wrong, i'll call them watts anyway(or perhaps stationeers-watts, shortened to swatts)what bothers me also is that the AC efficiency charts aren't plotted anywhere
>>551886481i did say joules per tickmeasurements in game though are probably per second, not tick, so double my joules per tick to get the game's... "joules" (should be watts) and your 14kJ (kW)the tablet should be per second, right? does it say per tick?if so, i've been doing a lot of my math very wrong
>>551756542KINO... so fvcking kino....
>>551885814>>551885945I'll have a try at redoing atmo today and next week. Will the base survive if the setup is non functional during that time?
>>551888589did you heat an amount of gas with an external stopwatch, then measured temperature change and used heat capacity to see what the heating rate was?commendable autism, but i think as long as the gas scanner/other ingame measurements agree with each other(i haven't found any discrepancies yet) we should just use those
>>551889430Atmo and cooling I mean. I'd rip the whole thing apart and reuse the space and components for a new system.
>>551883630I mean, honestly speaking that's what most people do
>>551889497a stopwatch isn't nearly "autistic" enough:use a tiny IC10 program to pressurize a single unit of insulated input pipe to some pressure and pressurize a single unit of insulated waste pipe to some pressure using active vents for exactly one tickthen turn on the air conditioner for exactly one tickprovided the output is one insulated pipe segment, it's now very easy to measure the exact energy transfer in exactly one tickanyone who isn't doing something like this is just pointlessly guessing at how an air conditioner operates rather than knowingit's even easier and simpler to do it this way
>>551890941>it's even easier and simpler this way
>>551881603That's why I put up with Microsoft nonsense, the *only* actual reason for choosing an OS is for running your programs, everything else is secondary.If there was a Linux distribution that ran .exe natively, Windows would be finished (I probably triggered some CS by saying that sentence). It's probably getting close with wine+proton, gonna figure out once I buy a new computer to replace my toaster.Also something that Linux evangelists don't understand is that the moment you showed a command prompt to a user, you just filtered 99% of people in a snap.>>551883630That's enough for most users, but phones replaced that usecase.
>>551891981>Also something that Linux evangelists don't understand is that the moment you showed a command prompt to a user, you just filtered 99% of people in a snap.That would mean that more people would use bubuntu though, which is like the childproofed mac-like of linux
>>551891981>Also something that Linux evangelists don't understand is that the moment you showed a command prompt to a user, you just filtered 99% of people in a snap.Honestly I installed linux on my gaming PC a few months ago and I haven't had to use my command prompt for anything, except for the package manager and updates but that's because I chose an autistic distro (artix) and I'm used to updating over the CLI. From what I know Mint and the like have even that available graphicallyAnd I'm like the anon >>551882635, for gaming specifically I really cannot be bothered to do any sort of deep dive debugging, I have never in my life touched wine/proton configs and I don't intend to. I haven't found myself locked out of any games so far except the obvious rootkit anticheat malware.
>>551892213Unbutu rarely comes up nowadays when I see discussions over switching to Linux, it's mostly Mint or Arch (?) in my personal and flawed experience. It probably should then. Also >>551892478 is reassuring for Linux as a Windows alternative.
>>551892768Mint is ubuntu btw
>>551892880I didn't know that (insert Linux/GNU copypasta).Most of my personal experience with Linux comes from installing Ubuntu in a family's member computer because he only used it for browsing, but then he complained it was different and called someone to install a pirated Windows copy (which kept having issues over the years). That was a decade ago at this point.
>>551892880mint used to be "ubuntu but it's actually serious, lighter and for work"it was basically the windows xp version of ubuntunowadays it's kind ubuntu lite
>>551891981>I probably triggered some CS by saying that sentenceYo! Random CompSci anon here.You did indeed trigger, but not in the way you were probably expecting.See, you're actually totally 120% on-the-ball correct.Windows nowadays truly IS a stinking piece of half-malfunctioning privacy-invasive bloatware that is pushing useless AI services hard, and is waysiding every other concern as secondary. It has been doing this for some time now, and if you're active in software development you'd have noticed the cracks earlier (seeing as Satya firmly dropped the Balmer-creed "developers, developes, developers!" when he rose to power - actually; he pretty much SHAT on it) but they're becoming VERY visible to common consumers right about now.Two things keep Windows going in the consumer segment. One is the first-class support for all things PC-gaming vis-a-vis Linux, and it ties directly into the second one: the perceived inapproachability of Linux.This is actually a footgun Linux does to itself, because of the way its ecosystem revolves around many disjoint distros that each have separate ideosyncrasies and each have separate communities that heavily, HEAVILY (!!), gatekeep 'normies'. The elitist, snobist neckbeard meme is sadly real. And it is the single most greatest impediment to more widescale adoption of Linux. In that sense Mint is a good distro for the general consumer, since one of its core tenets is to always be helpful and approachable to newbies. And if you violate that one a few times, you are (not-so-)kindly requested to GFTO and not return.
>>551893395>This is actually a footgun Linux does to itself, because of the way its ecosystem revolves around many disjoint distros that each have separate ideosyncrasies and each have separate communities that heavily, HEAVILY (!!), gatekeep 'normies'.You say that like a bad thing. What is there to gain for neckbeards to let normies use their distro? They're deadweight. Only corporations want normies in their boat, as paying customers. Which is exactly what we observe: corpo linux distros moving towards OS as a service happy to welcome everyone and community built distros either building on the corpo distros or doing their own thing, with varying levels of gatekeeping.
>>551892478>From what I know Mint and the like have even that available graphicallyMint has pretty much everything available graphically.You require the shell as much as you would on Windows.
honestly I'm still mad that mint 22 decided to bundle yt-dlp by default and keep it on a monolithic package for somethign that needs to be updated urgently every other weekthe fact I have to follow an ubuntu ppa made by a random ass third party for no godforsaken reason because mint won't let you try to install it manually without actually digging into root (i.e. fuck shit up if you don't know what you're doing) is just asinineThat and the gpu crashes that only happened after 22 rolled out and that more than a handful of people reported in the forums without any explanation, which also broke my laptop in very specific ways and had me switch to cachyI can't even blame cinnamon for that one because I specifically added cinnamon to cachy to test and it's been working flawlessly22 is undercooked
>>551893395>Yo! Random CompSci anon here.>You did indeed trigger, but not in the way you were probably expecting.>>See, you're actually totally 120% on-the-ball correct.Why do you type like chatgptOtherwise I don't disagree, but that's why I think Valve is important. SteamOS is "linux for gaming" and it has both the dev power AND, importantly, the mindshare and brand backing behind it to become a major name such that when normies think "hm what if I install Linux to get away from the Windows enshittification", will naturally just gravitate towards it as the default distro for playing games rather than getting bogged down in the traditional "ecosystem".Mint is on a good path but it's still a volunteer project that's consuming ubuntuslop and trying to make it right (which itself is second generation debianslop) while simultaneously reinventing linux on the destkop for normies.
>>551893395Hopefully Valve and SteamOS is going to make Linux more approachable and better as an alternative to Windows. The fact that Gabe used to work at Microsoft, dropped for gaming then went full circle back to making an OS is hilarious to me.
>>551894396I was thinking more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8v16kFEt-o
>>551889430>Will the base survive if the setup is non functional during that time?The 3x serie AC is a backup setup that isnt too efficient but works and was built in the new area, it should be enough to cool the base if we don't mess up with vol again. It needs a bit of extra piping as it is currently compeltely disconnected tho>>551889538>I'd rip the whole thing apartgladly but i'm afraid we're a bit short on space. Moving the gas tanks is annoying but doable and I'll try to help and expand the atmo area further
>>551894396Valve has dumped shitton of work and money into Proton/Wine. Now they are doing the same with ARM.https://www.theverge.com/report/820656/valve-interview-arm-gaming-steamos-pierre-loup-griffais>Valve has been quietly funding almost all the open-source technologies required to play Windows games on Arm. And because they’re open-source, Valve is effectively shepherding a future where Arm phones, laptops, and desktops could freely do the same.Thank you gaben.
>>551897146it's good to have a billionaire the likes videogames, unlike the billionaire that pretends to like videogames and wants people to know he's super good at playing them.
>>551897146>Acquire billions of dollars without falling for the stock market meme>...>the entire rest of the world fell for the stock market meme and has stopped producing cultureIt's like they say, if you want something done right...
>>551897146>Thank you gaben.Precisely. It's good to have at least one billionare in the world whose technological interests align with mine.
>>551896568I think moving the gas tanks outside would be better in any case, but not of the highest priority. I really don't need a lot of space for the setup, like 1x5 frames outside adjacent to a wall and maybe 2x3 inside for all the cooling. We probably don't need that many filtration units either, just one for filtering vol + pol in case of base contamination and another one for oxygen would be enough, so that would save a lot of space. Biggest help would be preparing, disconnecting and dismantling the old spaghet quickly and sorting everything into lockers so I can start work on the new system.
>>551897604It really is fucking hilarious that the secret to valves success is literally just not being a publicly traded company.
>>551894273or just download a nightly binary which comes with an --update argument anyway.
>>551894273This kind of bullshit is exactly why rolling release distros exist. I use Arch btw.
/egg/ games?
>>551894273>mint>>551903650based
>>551903769What egg games run well on linux?>inb4 only Factorio
Is the W&R Early Start DLC good now?>>551904748All of them?
>>551903769You're not a true /egg/man if you don't engineer the OS you use to play /egg/s>>551904748Pretty much all of them since none of them use super invasive anticheats or anything. Maybe KOHCTPYCTOP is the only one that's annoying to run because it's not really packaged as a game on steam.
>>551904748All of them, except ones that specifically require windows-compatible hardware, and the absolute newest ones. >>551905320 is mentally retarded because he doesn't know how .swf files work.
>>551905448It's been ages since I played it, does it actually come with a .swf? In that case that's better, I assumed it was packaged as an exe or something since it's advertised as windows-onlyI'm guessing it comes with a windows-based flash emulator but you can just run the swf yourself if you want then? If so then cool.>specifically require windows-compatible hardwareWhich /egg/s require windows-only hardware?>and the absolute newest onesLike what, I haven't heard of a major /egg/ releasing very recently and most shovelware-tier games usually run fine on proton
>>551905448When something absolutely refuses to run under linux I run a VM with a second dedicated GPU.
>>551894396>Why do you type like chatgptFuck if I know. I've always broken down informative posts the way I did there, since way before ChatGPT was even a thing.
>>551894443It becomes even more hilarious once you realize that what drove him to develop 'SteamOS' was Microsoft in the first place, and their veiled threat of consolidating all software sales to consumers into the Microsoft Store with Windows 8. That was the trigger for Valve to start working on an exit strategy for Steam. And that exit strategy became Proton and SteamOS.
>>551901948That, and knowing when to simply sit back and do nothing - while the competition murders itself.
>>551905158Well- apart from Satisfactory.But that's Unreal-slop, and it doesn't factually run well on ANYTHING - because Coffee Stain are inept monkeys and don't know how to work that engine properly. (You should look through its startup logs some time and have an oggle at all the useless and ultimately unused shitted-up bloatware plugins it's still loading.)
>>551908230You don't get it. Being a publicly traded company would make it illegal for gabe to do nothing. The competition murders itself because investors demand the companies destroy themselves in order to get big numbers in the next quarter.
>all that linux talk earlierOk but which linux is the least trannified
>>551911153you have that shit in your head, not in your distrotherefore none
>>551911153
>>551911314>you have that shit in your headEverybody already knows it's a mental disorder.
>>551911608wish them leaving their containment board would be a bannable offense
>>551911608Yeah, but they make pills for that. Don't despair. You'll get better eventually.
>>551911391Systemd distros are maintained by spineless, easily pressured weaklings. Prime targets for tranny infiltration.
>>551913158haven't checked in on them since the 00's, wouldn't be surprised if they have.
>>551911153Probably the most usable and modern one that comes to mind is Artix>>551911391Red Hat is Mozilla-tier, anon
>>551750129>what nonsensical gimmick will our boy dosh have to resort to?apparently slumming it up with other factorio 'tubershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-_dk53T0Ko
>>551911153probably artix, gentoo, slackware
>>551850695I don't like breadboards. I would rather just do LUA. Am I retarded?
>>551915304>dosh isn't even in the thumbnail/egg/bros... even our token eceleb is fading into irrelevancy...
>>551915304we already talked about this because some other moron, like you, decided to bring it upthe reality of the situation was the dude ended up leaving a couple hours in because they were being retardsplease stop shilling your literallywhosyou are a disgrace
>>551915304>tfw dosh will never laugh at you
I am glad we're at the end of the thread because I would kill all you niggers myself
>>551867841It waas the trains signails, they can manipulate and invert the trail direction.I aalready fixed it.
>>551917947
>>551915304>Admiralty GamingWho? christ if I bothered to put a business email on my account they might've roped me into this.
>>551754362blue = low pressurered = high pressure
>>551918804idc about these fags but why are you shittalking people while being an irrelevant faggot yourself
>>551918804His relevancy is a video where he says that Factorio has good art direction.Something someone with functional eyes can notice.
>finally realised the retarded error that would make trains deadlock my stackers and my entire rail network once every 5 hours>time to update my blueprint, again, and re-stamp it on every single stacker!!at least once I'm done with this I won't have deadlock issues anymore...
>https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-cpu-entwicklung-in-factorio-vom-d-flip-flop-bis-zum-eigenen-betriebssystem#l=engHello fellow computers!
>>551909381This is wrong>muh ford v dodgeYou didn't read the case
>>551917827don't forget we're all here forever
>>551915304red sciencegreen scienceblue scienceNice sciencepurple scienceyellow science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EMG63W388very educational computer science video
>>551394983>>551590363Looks like the UI is buggy. Even on a flat wall, I was getting multiple different values. What that means for actual operation, I don't know, but it "should" improve the armor for all layers.If it's the armor application itself that's buggy (and the UI is reading correctly), it would explain part of why ring shields are bad right now.
Stationeers up:N: Green /egg/s and hamP: Corneroids>>551885814>>551885945>>551889430Cooling, O2 and waste processing (shove it in a tank) is probably all we really need for the interimIf we need water (or emergency O2) we should be able to do tradersWhat is needed (roughly)>3x3 for filtration>2xX for water (maybe put it outside?)>probably 2x3 (3x3? 4x2?) for (effective) coolingOutside connections>"cool" steam in>~700L of liquid /pol/ @~110C (currently) in a closed loop (with 1 AC cooling purged vapor)Inside connections>botany water>pure CO2 for botany>waste (including tank dump)>air mix (CO2/O2/N2)>arc furnace gasses/N2 from the furnaceMost of the mess is shoehorning things in, especially where pipes must travel a fair distanceWe do likely want to keep the design of the filtration, but add more pumps.Another question would be if we put an AC between waste and filtration to give initial cooling, or if we go all in on cooling stored gasses
>>551885814how about something like this?i've been trying to think of a way to use /pol/ as a coolant but can't think of a good way to use phase transitions as a thermal batteryhow much cooling power do we need anyway? looks like the water synthesis would be the biggest producer of heat, especially if we're cooling the oxygen and volatiles it's combusting
>>551926438>We do likely want to keep the design of the filtration, but add more pumps.More pumps means more power dumped in there for most of the time no work. I dont have a single pump on my filtration setup on my save. Sure it's slow but I don't need to process that much waste at a time>Another question would be if we put an AC between waste and filtration to give initial cooling, or if we go all in on cooling stored gassesSame as above, power for nothing. >>551926660Phase change device act as a low consumption AC at the end of the line, you need the system to be below pol condensation point, ideally under 50C so you can replace the last AC at 20 with a condensation chamber. I tried to do that first AC at 999 but the results werent interesting enough. Free to try tho so long as you dont kill us all lmao
>>551926660>Phase change device act as a low consumption ACit's 50W, as much as 5 AC'seven the single input stage AC can get to water freezing temps(but at a very shitty power rating)i have 3 stages built compared to the 5 shown on the pic, and at night it moves 6-7KW(at 20C), which is why i added another 2 stages and a thermal tanki think the phase change devices are only really useful if you're transfering 20+ KW of heat, since need need to fuck around with parallel AC's otherwise
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>>551926438>enter password without capitalising by accident>unable to connect, even if game restartedFUCK
>>551922157>We're designing full CPUs in Factorio combinators now.Wow. Most amazing thing is: I know that this isn't even a weirdest timeline thing, given we had a guy already who built a full fledged MPEG decoder in it. (And yes- they encoded the Danube Sandstorm music video in a world, played back on a 2D 'pixel' grid of lamps.)
>>551930924>Danube*Darude(Fucking hell - I always fuck up that name.)
>>551931610>>551930924if I saw sandstorms over the danube I probably would be worried
>>551930924a simple cpu isn't that big of a deal with combinators, they do so much for you, compared to minecraft redstone for example where you have to implement everything at the gate level
>>551926438HELP, CAN'T CONNCTECT!!1
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can't, trains deadlocked
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