Collab Edition>What is Morimens?A Slay the Spire inspired card gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos>Official Linkshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/https://x.com/morimensofcl>Arc 2 Chapter 4 PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rmkXTIDAfc>Current Events (V2.4.0)2nd Anniversary[Memorial Archive: Dawnbringer's Guidance] 2025/11/17 - 2026/1/26-200 limited pulls for story completion[Memorial Event: By the Silver Key] 2025/11/17 - 2026/1/26-A free arc 2 character selector[Memorial Event: We Will Meet Again] 2025/12/1 - 2026/1/26[WoD Archives: Silver Frost Archives] 2025/12/15 - 2025/12/29[Skin Event: Sinful Decadence] 2025/12/15 - 2026/1/12[Rerun Awakenings: Thais/Lily/Tulu] 2025/12/15 - 2026/1/12[Rerun Event: Carnal Desires] 2025/12/15 - 2025/12/29[Character Event Awakening: Murphy Fauxborn] 2025/11/24 - 2025/12/29[WoD Event Awakening: Uteri Somnia] 2025/11/24 - 2025/12/29>Upcoming Events (V2.4.1 & beyond)[Your Existence is not Forgotten] Mist Sequence × Morimens COLLAB: 2025/12/30[Character Event Awakening: Mouchette][WoD Event Awakening: Doomsday Rampage]V2.5: 2026/3/26V2.6: 2026/6/29V2.7: 2026/11/16>Guides & Wikishttps://morimens.huijiwiki.com/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10UVim8m1SnY9fSDKfaH4AwnPPd22zsCDDNB6SV15yO4/edit?gid=167686509#gid=167686509>Forgotten Eve>>550322380
Seems like this is a no-FOMO collab
>>551332862Based B.I.A.V. Bless.
Reposting for convenience
>>551334046Morifrens, are we pulling?
Codes?
>>551332862M-m-my knees.... I can't help but to kneel...
>>551337084HVGX-HLDX-QKKNQKBQ-SSDG-JZYUCatsgiftDc5000SilverkeyMistSequenceWeWillMeetAgainZMCT-NAQM-CDTH
>>551332862they're not cutout to be gacha devs...
>>551338271>they're not cutout to be gacha devs...I've heard this before and I know how that went
>>551332862Unfathomably basedThinking about it, their decidion to only collab with EoS'd titles might make the collab terms more flexible. Pretty sure the "single player game" he mentioned is StS itself, though.
>>551339548the director sold his soul tho
>>551339548B.I.A.V. still has potential EOS threat looming over them and they clearly don't have autis...dedicated fanbase to tolerate Kim's slow decent into madness. >>551339698>Pretty sure the "single player game" he mentioned is StS itself, though.It's single player games. While StS seems like a no-brainer. I wager there will be more. Wonder if they are more obscure like mainland only games or something like DD.
>>551340719Abomination or Occultist from DD would be amazing.
I wonder whether a collab with World of Horror could happen.>>551339548Ah, a fellow refugee! Well met.
>>551339698Would be cool if they did, especially with a sequel releasing later this year. There'd be plenty of people who know of it anyways so it'd be cool if it happened desu>IroncladI never used them a ton but from what I remember, Caro or Chaos?>SilentChaos >DefectBlue might be possible but I have no idea how you'd translate orbs to Mori though>WatcherMight as well give them UltraChrono Ark collab cope
>>551339698I don't think it's StS otherwise he wouldn't have been so secretive about it.
>>551341862Feels like collab characters might be mostly chaos unless they have a very obvious connection to a given realm. Defect is all about the different kinds of orbs, so maybe it's kit could change depending on the team's realm, like with 24.>>551342108StS collab/homage is already in the works, yeah, so I guess it's just a question of when and how they fit it into Morimens and which OTHER single-player games they have in mind. Could be that StS is the only one confirmed, so they decided to be vague so as not to get hopes up for any particular game.
>>551336130No vulnerable and no scaling. Trash tier.
>>551328580>>551331109>>551331804i was thinking tinct with mouchette because -1 cost to five cards is really important for strike builds. yes tinct has some funny strike dps stuff too but that's secondary, it's the 5 arithmeta that really matters because strikes are hard to discount otherwise. i really want to finally get to use +strike wheels.
>>551343114I'm honestly not sure what to make of her kit. The numbers are decent looking and she can make good use of wheels like Alva's. But the lack of utility is eeeeeeh and I'm not sure how well you can build a team around her.
>>551336130pulling to Make Lotan Great Again
>>551345881What about Helot?
>>551343114probably true
when is moriwomen releasing
>>551345579She has a bit of utility with her .... OE. Which is not good. But then again. It's just play strike to deal damage character. E2 is interesting. Because it gives you copy of the last strike card played with reduced cost. So it could be GHelot's bloodthirsty flail or Lotan's skill which name I forgot atm. This might be best uses. Like Lilly's strike to protect need endure build up. Extra niche uses. Is sudden fallacy relic in Arc 1. Since it makes any card count as strike. Now we only need awakener that makes EVERY card in your deck count as strike. That could be funny.
So, lore question: There's an Aeon associated with Caro, Chaos, and Ultra, but none for Aeqour.Was the dead god of Lemuria that Miryam was trying to resurrect the Aeqour Aeon or am I misunderstanding?
I genuinely do not know how I finally cleared it. I didn't change my comp, or my strategy, or do much fiddling with my covenants. I think the only significant thing that changed from previous attempts (aside from which relics I got) was waiting until the following turn to use William's support instead of popping it right away.Didn't get three stars, but I did clear it without a revive, and that's what I care about.Still, I think it's safe to stop hiding my UID now. No risk any of you will try to add me after this shitshow saga.I'd post the replay code so you can all sneer at me, God knows I've earned it by now, but it spawns failblocks in the text box.>>551347646There are three Aeons, but they correspond to Joy, Intellect, and Desire, not to realms.Cthulhu is not an Aeon.
>>551349240>I did clear it without a reviveJokes on you anon. It took me 5 to clear the fight. And I spend 3 just to get there. I have no idea how you suppose to counter 700+ damage every turn and stay sane enough for all the phases.
>>551349589How is the joke on me when even using one revive means your team comp was too weak to clear, let alone using five?Tank units exist, dude.
>>551350493The point being you needlessly hard on yourself. I performed far worse as an example. Don't take it as an offense. It might be some communication issue.>your team comp was too weakIt wasn't. I was.
>>551349240Was this normal or hard?
>>551351410Definitely a communication issue, but I'd say it's on my end for not picking up on it.>>551351624Normal, which is why clearing without a revive was so important to me.
>>551349589FAT shields, keeping weakness up, and having something like STR down(gdoll for instance, or miryam's defend) goes a long way. Also tentacle enemies are basically just a soft timer. Kill fast or die.
>>551334046I can see myself trying something like Mouchette, Lotan, Casiah, Flex. Not sure if it will be any good but it feels like it is going some where.>>551339548El Director was always going to do it, cash grab is the only reason to switch to making a gacha after making real games previously.
>trying to pull Thais >second time overall getting this zesty, bloody, not-Sephiroth/Abel NightroadIdek if he’s good, I’m tired of seeing him and his tight ass pants. Unless he IS good, in that case welcome to the team, and stay away from my wife Tinct
>>551357358He needs OE to be useable really.
>>551357358Your 200 silver... >if he's good Mostly alright. Once you get his OE that is. Makes him much harder to play compare to a lot of standard DPS. But watching him just going wild with screech blood is really, akhem, FUN.
>>551357358He's not bad with investment but not a game changer or anything. Pretty dangerous play style though. He wants you at low life for more damage and will also get you there with his OE filling you hand with 0 cost "lose hp, do damage cards".
>>551357358He's awkward to use without a good aliemus-focused support like Thais to power his exalt-spam playstyle. Every exalt with devour increases the strength multiplier of his exalt for the battle. He also gets better with OE, naturally, which fills your hand with his 0-cost until full and gives +1 hit to every future attack he does for that turn.>and stay away from my wife TinctDon't worry, Uvhash is bloodsexual for (Your) blood, specifically
It is done.
>>551358004Grats on your new blender, dude. Merry Christmas!
>>551349240Apparently the failblocks don't actually matter, so here it is if anyone wants to watch.e3fe4dd1-e8c0-3517-9840-f8db1a54e38b#E#aAnd like I said, if anyone wants to shit on how I played, go for it. I was needlessly rude about the whole affair last thread, so it's only fair.>>551357358Nothing to add. High-risk low-reward until OE. High-risk high-reward at OE. You'd think he would work well with Sorel, since she also likes to be at low HP, but she eats all the babies and doesn't leave him any.>>551358004Does Gurph need OE, or is she just even more ridiculously good with it?
>>551360073>she eats all the babies and doesn't leave him anyActually, Sorel's wheel gives 25% embryo fusion per embryo she devours with her exalt. So, she can exalt-devour 4 babies, produce another embryo for free after it resolves, and then Uvhash can do his OE to fill the hand with his 0-cost card and extend the damage dealt for the turn. The only issue is setting it all up and finding the right team that can support a double-damager setup.
>>551360073Gmurphy is good at any investment level. Dupes and OE just make an already strong unit stronger. It's definitely not needed but I like her so I went for it.
Oh jeez
>>551361125Damn, I'm getting actually'd. But you're not wrong, and are in fact 100% right. It's really less that they can't work together and more that it's very inconvenient to run them together.Leigh and Red24 make plenty of babies pretty cheaply. I've gotten decent results with them. Agrippa might also work in place of either of them, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used her at all.>>551361329Cool, I haven't screwed myself by only taking her to E3 then.>>551361673Helot's gone into business for herself. I'm so proud of her.
>>551362070>Damn, I'm getting actually'd.Man, it gets hard to remember everything about every awakener. Especially since some of the most important parts of their kits can come from any one of several places, we it talent, enlighten, wheel, or OE. Really wish the devs would streamline the game a little bit more, like making all awakener talents usable in all content instead of just Astral Reign. Some P-dives would be amazing with talents enabled.
>>551363067>*be it talent, etc.fuck I'm tired
>>551363067Yeah. Especially since P-Dive feels harder than D-Tide lately. I only run it at lv60, but I swear the trash has lv70 HP/damage numbers every time.
>just read the mailIs Salvador a based chad?
>>551364237I'm able to run level 70 P-dives with my best team (usually only because of the recent extremely strong units that have released), but otherwise yeah. Level 70 feels overtuned, and basing the exp penalty on account level doesn't feel right at all since only team HP and relic numbers scale with account level. If your awakeners are still only level 60-70 it still feels too hard for them to finish in many cases. I'm not exactly a whale (more like a beluga), but I recently broke account level 70 thanks in large part to the exp gain buffs that buying primo silver gives, and P-dive feels overtuned as fuck right now.
I was meant to get Birth of a Soul first, right?
>>551365065Birth of a Soul is great, but Sunfall is equally good since it can be used on pretty much any character.
OH MY GOD CHRISTMAS REALLY IS ALL ABOUT MIRACLESAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>551365629EXPLODE!
>jenkin steals your cloths and masturbates so soundly people start to think an abandoned house is hauntedJENKIN OHOGOE
Got abortion as well.
>>551365629Those R wheels tell a story.
>>551365919Jenkin would NEVER!
So ... she needs at the very least E2, right? She no longer curses Spartans though...>>551365629
>>551369341It's literally what happens in her frenzy.
>>551371017Jenkin sounds like Japanese Fran Drescher when she cums...
>>551336130a girl, rollan
>>551369679I would argue E3, because she lives and dies on being able to get her train rolling as fast as possible. E2 is playable but E3 lets you tutor her shit straight to you hand on the first turn.
>>551375121Will she get a rerun? My brain is working on arknights rules by default and I consider G versions limited.
>>551375774Eventually yeah.
I was doing moderately alright with hard mode till H1-7. Gotten to 3 but using a gnosis or two each level. This whole chapter is pushing my shit in. Looks like free Thais skin is only maybe going to happen for me.
>>5513777761-7? As in the first chapter of arc 1 hard mode? Or did you mean 7-1, the first stage of the 7th chapter?
morinight!
>>551378260Yeah, I messed that up good and it didn't make much sense. Hardmode Thais chapter in arc 1. 7-3 seriously hurt but all of 7 has been ass so far compared to 6.
Only three remain, but I don't want any of them...I didn't want Alva back either, but it is what it is.>>551377776>>551378892Run Caecus and Nautila, put the Birth orison on their 3-costs, and Rouse them as soon as you can. For your other two slots, you can use pretty much any Chaos or Aequor Awakener you like, as long as they're leveled enough.
>>551371017I can't believe you unlocked a smelly little girl's frenzy...
>>551380567How do you know what Jenkin smells like...?
>>551381191She is british. All british are smelly.
>>551381642I thought it's the French that smell.
>>551382976Thais legs
>>551382976>skey wheelBreddy gud. The effect probably ramps too slow for most teams but keyflare is keyflare.
>>551382976Huh, the collab character's event wheel looks like it'll work really well with Beachside. It basically gives her 2 Strikes instead of 1.
>>551382976Moar strikes posse looks interesting for collab chick. Free strikes are good strikes.
>>551382976
Five Tulus and Murphy from the Standard banner... Still no Miryam.
>>551387661DISREGARD I JUST SAW SHE'S GETTING A RERUN! At long last!!
>>551386052Thais hoofjob...
miryam rerun! now the question is if I pull to e2 or just go for e0 and use horizons...I'll judge by how quick I get the e0, I suppose
>>551382976that wheel is absurdly good for discard and good on any other team just for stats alone
>>551382976we love Miss Daffodil here
How frequently do banners rerun? I don't have enough pulls for Lily and I'm not trying to miss out on the next set of characters
>>551396053It depends. Miryam and Thais previously reran in August, for example. Doresain's original banner was in July
>>551382976>Chapter 3 GG rework Eh?
New code:MerryChristmas
>>551401029Arc 2 chapter 3, yeah. I'm on that chapter right now, and I vaguely remember the child in the CG not looking as the text described, so they probably made the new artwork to better align with that.
I am the lucky guy who finally got GHelot last night. I am surprised both versions exist at the same time even if I am pretty sure it isn't canon. I truly expected something similar to D4C's powers for some reason.
>>551401272thanks bro
>>551402382There is nothing stopping it. Both dolls exist at the same time and even have conversations later.
>>551402513In story?!
>>551382976I just realized the current traphase emotes are expiring very soon. Need to get 10 wins in 3 days I guess...
>>551402382>I am pretty sure it isn't canonIt's quite convoluted. I guess. But the answer they can. Story gives explanation later, I'm pretty sure. But I zoned out.
How many copies does the new lady need?
>>551406002No one knows yet but her E2 seems pretty strong, at least on paper.
>>551406002As anon above said. We don't know. OE effect seems really good. But E3 as budget option? If you want to use her as sub damage dealer E2 might be good stopping point.
If you're a spender, I recommend buying the new Christmas wheel to +12.SSR kayflare wheel+12 is very important for dtide and there are no SSR keyflare wheel in standard wheel banner. It even does something unlike the useless 1st anni wheel.
>>551408390Which one, anonpipi? The one with Santa or the one with WInter Thais?
To celebrate his rerun, here is Flares' Doresian+12 doing massive damage at 3 corpses
>>551408554Sorry, I forgot that there's also Santa wheel.They're both good but Thais one is keyflare so it's more important (if you care about dtide).
>>551408686I wondered if I should buy the paid part of the SWanta one.
>>551408620>Flares' Doresian+12Why the fuck would he OE into enemy with full HP? >inb4 Because he can Aw shucks that got me good.
>>551408745because at high difficulties you have to exalt just to bring the enemy hp down unless you have a second dps capable of doing that, like Kath, which in dzone you'll probably use to carry another team
>>551408734Decent dtide filler because the effect, also decent for units with DR scaling like Lily/Corpo/Sanga.Usually Alva's wheel or Dusk and Dawn are better but not everyone has them at max dupes.
>>551402382Same guy. Should I keep pulling from the Caro banner in hopes of getting dupes or other limited characters or should I focus on other realm?
>>551411380If you're new I'd go for other realms or straight to the standard wheel banner. Don't plan your pulls based on limiteds though, it's like 1 every 200 pulls on average.
>>551412291I wanted her and got her which wasted my luck for the next year. I also want Sorel so I've been thinking about pulling some more just to see for myself.
>>551411380there's never any guarantee that you'll get a limited on standard so it's not something recommendable. pulling for a specific limited is pure cope (but do it if your heart really desires still). for dupes, you can use prototype horizons now, the first copy is the most important.
>>551382976Morifrens eatin' good this winter.>>551402382It's canon. When it comes to how Genesis Awakeners work, GRamona is the exception, not the rule.
>>551415243I need to add more morifrens.
>>551415180It's the gamble that sustains me. But I also like the way Horla looks so I might go for her next.
Christmas love for Ramona!
I need to check daffodil's gameplay again
N...
>>551429135won
How the fuck do I get more quills? It seems like I need a ton of them.
>>551432517Time gated, you just accumulate them slowly. No way to directly farm them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rW4pUG2tqY
>>551306614i tried lotan and she did actual negative damage which is a shame because i like her
>>551434072I love her and Helot forma qt so I will make them work!
>>551434072Lotan exists mostly for her OE which does percentage damage outside of a potential mouchette meme team.
Christmas dinner time. Anonpipis ... survive
Eating christmas babies!
Meery Christmas, Morifrens!
>>551439148She wouldn't say that.
>>551439296She would say that. Before stabbing you repeatedly.
>>551439296She would say something like "Merry Christmas puppy" instead.
Is Inferno the prettiest moriwoman?
>>551441659Nah. That would be Francis.
>>551442047who?
>>551442332Lily's mother. I disagree with him though and agree with the first anon. Gdoll is the hottest.
>>551442047I prefer her daughter
For me it's the orphan rat with a smell fetish.
>>551444451Brown doesn't have smell fetish and I'm not sure if he is even orphan...
>>551448689Tulu looks normal..
Thais' voice is pure sex
>>551450259he's not himself without a throne of tentacles
>>551457117indeed
page 9 ... tired....
Why is there maintenance?
No, seriously what is up with the maintenance? Why does it happen so often?
So they can maintain things.
moridead
>>551474751I mean its Christmas so all we have to do is bump the thread once every 75-90 minutes or so.
Someone on a previous thread said Miryam was already good as support/battery in a GMurphy team at E0.Is that correct or does she need dupes for that role?
Contrary to conventional limitations, Doll: Inferno [b]can[/b] rape the willing. Change my mind.
>>551475981she can already do that at e0e2 gives retain and prepare to her aliemus recharging 3 cost card which just makes it easier to use
>mild personality>not a cute girl>no feats>zero story relevance>extremely powerful limitedwhat were they thinking?
>>551475981Getting retain and prepare on her 3 cost means you don't have to play it right away(and for gmurphy specifically that's important, because you want to play murp's 3 cost every turn if you can and the only way you can otherwise play both is have her 0 cost or a relic that gives more arith). She isn't bad at e0 but it's still a really nice boost.
Is there a way to know when maintenances will happen? Memecord or xwitter, I guess?
>>551479209they do notify in-game a lot about "campus maintenance", but the notices are hard to read and use UTC which is confusing.
why are we having less players on steam after anniversary started than before ?
>>551481963It's Christmas anon, most people are with their families. Not playing gacha.
morinight, morifrens
>>551434072She can be a dps with invested team and image relic in Act 2. You'll need str stacker and maybe Hameln.I don't play her but I saw someone doing A5 W1/W2 with her. W5 is maybe a little but too much hp.
we WILL have a limbus collab before EoS
>>551490661Don't you put that evil on us.
>>551491078NTA, but what's wrong with limbus? I'm not really familiar with that series in general.
>>551492375the biggest problem with limbus is that it's too good
I just realized Mouchette has racism vs bosses in general, that's actually kind of crazy. Basically every stage boss has this tag.
>>551495095A new W3 carry?!
>>551478645Power of Faith. I never noticed that the serpent tail and thought it's just part of his robe.
Mouchette ASMRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIFVkhJe0I
>>551499618>Tanaka RieOh they changed her VASeems like in Mist Sequence she was voiced by Ikumi Hasegawa
>takehito koyasu, mamiko noto, now tanaka rieThat's a classic anime fan
Does getting Mouchette to affinity 15 count as NTR?
how do you get these wheels in the first place?
>>551500873buy ze battlepass
Could you stop advertising in /czn/?Go do d-tide or something
>>551502221It's not us anon, you know that.
>>551492375>the playerbase>The game deciding to go backwards on a lot of features, literally making the player experience worse>Game is a sinking ship with how it's ran by director. Money can't replace a lack of manpower nor buy him timePlenty of things tbdesu
>>551503319>Game is a sinking ship with how it's ran by directorIt still makes him money despite him actively making it worse for the players.
>>551502508It's the guy that plays both or doesn't play anything, the one samefagging in both threads.
>CLAIM FOR FREE
>>551504648Berry nice.
>>551504648whew thank god since murphy and thais milked me dry
>>551504648Noice. I have about 30 pulls I have saved since all the aniversary and gmuprphy banners that she would have gotten. Although I want her for possible strike team shennaigans, I don't want her badly enough to bother pulling right now unless it turns out she is a crazy power house.
>>551499618>>551500007They somehow made a mistake in the description but now it's fixed, it is actually Hasegawa Ikumi just like in her own game. Makes you wonder if they're planning on hiring Tanaka Rie for a future character though
do we love morimens in here?
>>551504648These devs simply cannot be matched
Did you know fishes mate by literally bukkake-ing all over their eggs?I am now requesting Goliath showering Leonora/FemKeeper with his seed
>>551507931why not male keeper though
>>551507931>Leonora>not Sylvester One job.
>>551507808for me it's moriloli
>>551507931I wish I could draw or I'd draw my own moriporns. Not that though. I draw the girls.
>>551508274learn to draw then.
>>551508440Alas, I cannot. Not for lack of trying, I simply lack the motor skills these days.
>>551504648i guess now i understand why she's kinda weak. works great for me cause i was gonna e0 either way.
>>551507459>Makes you wonder if they're planning on hiring Tanaka Rie for a future character thoughMaybe she'll be voicing Arachne or something.
>>551509407Honestly I think she is pretty strong outside the lack of utility. Her numbers are all very high. It's basically pollux but instead of making an already good team stronger she enables weaker characters.
Now I think about it. B.I.A.V also had PGR collab in the works. So if it's not canned, this might be next one. I really don't like collabs.
>>551510342damn bRAT!!
>>551509810i just saw her OE is a petrify. i guess that's where the utility is.
>>551508440sexy boy pose
Juliette bump
>>551521493My beloved will be playable one day.
>>551492375For starters, what >>551503319 said.Also, zero character development for 5/8 of the characters that've gotten storyline chapters so far.The battle system is barely above a literal auto-battler, by design, as demonstrated by KJH himself cheesing an infamous storyline boss by spamming one default skill and hitting Win Rate to prove the boss wasn't overtuned. Which, by that logic, he technically wasn't; the problem is that the only mechanics in the game are clashing and evading. Win clash, deal damage; evade attack, take no damage. Everything that does not count toward one of these two mechanics is functionally worthless and irrelevant, and because both are always up to RNG, it never actually matters what the player does.The game barely ever had any content to begin with, only having two gameplay modes outside of story and grinding. Which would be fine, PM fans like stories (despite never beating the illiteracy allegations), except they started doing reruns of previous events to add voice acting. While that's nice if you understand Korean or Japanese, wrangling 12+ VAs takes time, which may not have been the biggest reason the already-sparse content slowed to a dribble, but surely didn't help.The fanbase is about 95% lapdogs who would eat KJH's shit like soft serve and ask for seconds if given the chance. No matter how idiotic a decision he makes, such as giving Arknights yet another one-sided collab to advertise their game at PM's expense, or adding unbreakable coins at fucking all, these saps will trample each other for the chance to carry his balls for him. The other 5% are sweats whose sole function within the community is to piss and moan when the bosses get nerfed because they don't have the skills to play a real game, so being """good""" at a Korean coin-flipping simulator is the only meaning they have in life. Morimens has its shitters too, I assume, but so far I've yet to see anyone complain that a Story Mode boss in Normal is too easy.
>>551503837There are people who pay money to eat shit and have their hands stepped on too.
>>551524296>food analogy Great. Don't get me wrong. State of affairs is that dire. But THE game is actually doing quite well. What can you do? I have nothing. Well no reason to sperg out in /mori/ at least.
>>551524707>literally thinks shit is foodI don't even have to say anything.
>>551524194>I've yet to see anyone complain that a Story Mode boss in Normal is too easyto be fair there was plenty of whining when they nerfed arc 1 difficulty for the anniwas funny to hear it from them hardcore people who didn't even clear arc 2 hm
>>551524949>the joke (You)
>>551524194Somewhat connected I guess but I will try out czn finally later today. I wish I was able to discuss it in it's general but I am afraid it is still vmgeet central.
FIRST FOR FAINT FEETAINTFEET
>>551525095Well, I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that I didn't see it. Escaping the baying of sweats is a luxury I never thought I'd get to enjoy.>>551525118OK shitgobbler.>>551525131Do it. You won't.
>>551525619If she is the color from outher space what is Tinct?
>>551525746Why are you so mad on Christmas? In a thread that has little to no shitposting as well..
>>551525805Also a color out of space, just healthy. Faint is sickly.
>>551527306>sick girl gets FAT death resistanceHuh....
>>551527449That's her lore. If it bothers you, take it up with Light.
Thais love.
>finally decide to do my 10 traphase wins>massive balance changes to almost everything from literally today>spend an hour reading through all of it>main Pickman team is giga nerfedh-haha...
>>551525805https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Ghroth
>>551534237How are there so many wacky creatures in the mythos?
>>551536172What being a community submitted expanded universe does to a mf
>>551536560So are they connected for real or are they not?
>>551532440And they buffed a bunch of other units that were already strong. You'll be fine, don't worry about it.>>551536829Can't say for certain if she's connected to Ghroth (and can't rule it out), but because she's Faint's twin sister, she is 100% the same species as Faint. There's no reason to assume alien Awakeners can't siphon power from eldritch beings the same way human Awakeners do; even in the Ultra Realm, not everyone's Daffodil.
>>551538649Oh no, I meant if the planet eye is a part of the lovecraft mythos or if it something added later by somebody else?
>>551541189Oh! Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The Mythos was started by Lovecraft, but he left it open for others to contribute to as they liked.
anons, former czn player here, I was told to try morimens if I wanted better story and less goonI don't care about the goon, but story is a good bonus, but my main thing with czn was the roguelike mode being the one you need to build deck, which I dont' mind, but then you cannot use the improved deck to redo that rogue like so it's like restarting from zerois it like that here as well, or is there some kind of sense of 'development' at least?
>>551542306most of the 'deck building' happens when you compose a team. you pick 4 characters, each has 2 of their skill cards and a basic strike/defence. the same team is going to have more or less the same kind of gameplay most of the time since the deck itself remains the same. during a run you'd at best delete or copy a card or two or add some effects to them, and get different relics. there's meta-progression with leveling your cards/characters/talents/covenants and whatnot, and it's all permanent. someone who's played czn might give a better comparison between the two since i haven't
AIEEEEE SHUT UP MURPHY
>>551542306In Morimens you develop your units, level their skills, acquire their wheels of destiny (basically weapons/equipment), and acquire extra combat abilities called "posses" of which you can take only one at a time into any given run. The relics you can buy or find in a rub are at the end of them, but their numbers are steadily increased as your account level increases (alongside team hp totals, see pic related). There are single-card buff effects called "orisons" that you can buy or find in a run that will give a generic extra effect to a card when it's played (inflicts weak or vulnerable, gives strength, creates a copy in your deck, etc.), but those are lost after each run the same way relics are. There aren't "epiphanies" like CZN has, though, so if you liked turbo-buffing a character's cards then you won't find that here. In Morimens, usually those kinds of big card/passive buffs are unlocked with character dupes or various interactions with their teammates and relics.Hope this helps, but let us know if you have any other questions.
>>551542306I didn't play CZN. So there is that. Each character has 4 (5) cards + ultimate. Two of them strike/defense shared across all as anon above said. There are some limitations like every character belongs to a different realm. And you can only combine two. Archtypes are not really fleshed out gameplaywise and some might be weaker/stronger depending on rules. There are currently two rulesets that change how some relics and characters work for example.>sense of 'development' I mean you upgrade your cards (this doesn't change how they play just better numbers) and dupes also improve characters and in some cases cards too. I guess. It's all permanent.
>>551545376>*The relics you can buy or find in a run are lost at the end of themI need some fucking caffeine
morifrens, do you rouse asap or is case to case basis depending on the Awakener? Also is the command card one time thing? I've been playing for over a month now and I have never ever seen one in my hand after I have used it.
>>551546117Rouse cards activate the awakener's rouse effect for the rest of the battle and is exhausted. If you could reuse them for the 50 aliemus, then a lot of supports would be put out of work.
>>551542306I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try my best to answer.Character upgrades are permanent, except in the rare case that you have to use a guest unit or preset team.Getting or upgrading a piece of equipment is permanent, with the same exception as above.Any beneficial effect you pick up inside a run is temporary.Black Sigils are a temporary currency that only exists inside runs.Any upgrade to a chapter gimmick is permanent, and carries over into higher difficulty modes. You get enough mats to unlock every upgrade.Any Silver you pick up inside a run gets added to your account after you clear the run.D-Tide is the only content in the game that forbids you from reusing anything between runs, requiring at minimum 20 different units and 5 different party skills to clear all five stages. Everything else lets you reuse whatever you like, however you see fit.Nothing really restarts from zero unless you reset it yourself.>>551546117ASAP in Arc 1, case-by-case in Arc 2, since it's free in Arc 1 but not in Arc 2.
>>551546117Miryam is the only character that can rouse 3 times. But yeah. It's one time only for everyone else. As far rose priority go. It usually depends on character. If you have good hand/about to be nuked there is no reason to spend 3 arith on rouse for example. But some have very strong effects attached.
>>551546117For Poison I always rouse 24 as soon as possible, then GDoll if I feel I need the healing. Otherwise I don't worry about the other team members. Varies from team to team.
>>551546117case by case. kathigura needs to rouse immediately to play the game, castor only needs to rouse the turn he starts spamming feathers, salvador and pollux have effects that stack every turn, horla's it's hard to ever care about. etc etc.
ugly spider when?
>>551551060After cute maggot.
>>5515510602.6
Man what the fuck is this game
>>551542306czn betterthis game has no budget and slow updates
>>551551060We already have ugly(cute) spider, though?
>>551554017We dont have pointless gook dramas over NPCs
>>551554554shitposting
>>551554109But soon we can have two spider.
it's time for a morinap
>>551551963Lovecraftian/cosmic horror. Are you new to the genre?
>>551554109she is very strange
>>551544889>>551545376>>551545417>>551546974Thanks, I guess that gameplay wise I should check it out myself. Deck building is mostly units it seems. Is there a roguelike mode? Is there anything with multiplayer, even if just some shared guild to chat or something?How is the daily 'routine'? Does it take much time?What about story, is it decent enough? Is it fully voiced?Fanservice degree? I don't like cow sized naked udders showed in my face, I'm a refined man. I can get excited at the sight of an armpit, feet, navel, nape or even tentacle mind you.Lastly, though this is the least of my worries, is the gacha decent rates wise?
>>551564098No. usually it's just le bug squidtulu monster from le deep or if it's anime you get some kind of moracle to fight back. this one hits different
>>551567945>roguelike modeNot yet. The devs are apparently working on something like that but no idea when it will show up.>multiplayerThere is a PVP mode that is basically a completely separate card game where how much a player whaled out doesn't really matter beyond simply having more characters. It's a completely different gameplay system than normal.>daily routinePretty short, clear whatever the latest event stage is, dump your remaining stamina into it with sweep and you are usually done. The daily is just play 50 cards in any mode. There is a once a week resource stage you should do and another mode once every two weeks. Beyond that nothing is really on a timer.>storyPretty good overall. >fanserviceVery little.>gachaThe game has a fairly low pity and gives out lots of currency. Additionally you get one free dupe of a character and a wheel every month. You do want dupes in many characters though, so I guess it balances out. Still, I'd say it leans toward the generous side overall. You won't max out characters as a f2p but you won't struggle too much either.
Morifrens on page 9!
What were the usable WoDs from here?
>>551567945>roguelikeExisting dungeons are static, although which relics and card buffs you'll get to choose from are randomized.>multiplayerTraphase exists, but don't take it too seriously.>fanserviceThais is literally the embodiment of reproductive instinct. GDoll is literally a doll. Everyone else wears clothes. Optional sexual encounters are strictly contained within the Reproductive Frenzy mode, and relatively few of the Awakeners actually have sex with the Keeper. (When they do, it's a tastefully-handled fade-to-black affair.)>gacha- 3.03% chance of SSR on a given pull, 5% overall when accounting for guarantees- One SR or better guaranteed every 5 pulls (usually just the SR though)- One SSR guaranteed every 30 pulls- Banners with a specific target (ie. limited Awakener, limited Wheel, or standard Wheel banners) guarantee you'll pull that target every 90 pulls at worst, so it'll be at most 360 pulls for a guaranteed E3 of any given limited Awakener/Wheel.>>551579605All three of them are usable, but Dusk and Dawn is really good for Keyflare and probably the best choice overall. Recommend getting that Timeloop Copy before you worry about any of the wheels, though.
>Tinct singsI was unfamiliar with her game...
Finally tried Daffodil again. I actually love her gameplay a lot.
zzzzzz
morinight! survive..
So, uh...is Boss Castor supposed to be really easy, or is it time for me to fortify and start doing A4 with this team?8a760d92-0c26-3fc9-b635-55e32d6a01a2#E#a
>>551595971>OE Tawil>2k max hp>doing Alert III
>>551596404Ah, I was afraid of that. So how badly does the game punish you for trying to do content above your Investigation Level? Mine's still only 68.
>>551596692nta but other way around, he's making fun of you for doing a low alert. you have an extremely built tawil (though with a weak covenant choice), it's chaos ring, decent soulforges across the board, and you're high enough investigation level that your HP won't be a problem. that team could probably a5, with skill and some resetting
also I didn't notice until after posting but get those skill levels up wtf why does your nautila have all 6s but your tawil doesn't, nvm on the 'extremely built tawil'
>>551583079That's 80% of the reason I use her at all. She's pure ear sex.
>>551595971yea you should be able to do A4 pretty easily
>>551595971>>551596692i have the same team but with much lower investment (e2 tawil, e0 hameln, no OEs on naut and caecus, lvl 60 on everyone but tawil) and keeper lvl 66 - and it can do a4, so yours definitely canyour tawil can even try to go for a5
>>551599998No, I understood that. I even preempted it by recognizing the possibility that I needed to fortify (ie. nut up) instead of staying on lower alerts. The covenant does what I need it to do, but I do have a half-baked Paradox I could put on her.>>551600150One, because I've had Nautila longer. Two, because Tawil needs Dreamcatchers to raise her skills, and I only got around to clearing Tide of the Dark Pool II and running Ch8 Hard recently, whereas I got plenty of Shackles from doing various things prior to that. Three, I'm wholly unsure how/if pumping Pinions of Time actually impacts her Wings' damage. (A better view of derived cards' info would be nice.) And four, shield generation has consistently been a bigger concern than damage output. Prior to the last boss of Astral Reign Ch4, Tawil's damage has been adequate with her skills where they are.>>551601806I only started doing D-Tide at all last month... Guess it doesn't cost me anything to try, though.
>>551602535most people run dreams of medicine on tawil as it gives an extra copy of her pinions and omniscient
>>551602535>The covenant does what I need it to doEven if you are happy with the set itself 67% is super low. Your baby set is also really low. Start pumping those pens into them.
>>551602993Makes sense. This look adequate?>>551604428<_>
>>551604694i'd roll more crit damage but overall yeah, that's the stats you want to see at least. cd/cr/keyflare
>>551604694You can get a lot more stats out that, this is what I have on my tawil and gmurphy for reference(and I still have room for improvement).
>>551605267Crit Damage is well and good, but it only does anything if she's critting in the first place.>>551605328I know, but it's gonna take a while to get enough pens/scraps for it. Before I start scrapping spares, will I need a non-CD+CR+Keyflare Dreams set for anybody?
>>551606210yes, pickman can't use CR and may want aliemus (I recommend looking at leaderboards). corposant you might want to put death resistance, though CD+CR+Keyflare will probably also be good enough.
>>551606462Alright, I'll put together a CD+Aliemus+Keyflare set for Pickman and figure something out for Corpo.But for now, sleep. Gn morifrens
>>551606462Corpo's dr scaling is not worth it, you're better off with a crit set on her too
I know both are considered mediocre but is it possible to make Tinct and Helot work together? I guess I should seek cards that buff Strike in general when building around both.
>>551610686You can try something like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPbixF-hz8Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svL3Pzhg7hM
where the heck does this come from? I saw someone have it on the leaderboards, but it's not in the shop, it's not in wheel banners, and it seems weirdly OP for a purple
>>551612831Gdoll event wheel, you need to wait for rerun to get it
back to morinapping..
>>551610686The upcoming collab character will be strike-focused, both on her own strikes and her teammates' strikes. Everyone will get her for free, so she should be a big help. She's chaos, though, so you'd have to choose between Tinct and Helot. Tinct is less awkward to use and doesn't discard all of your juicy strikes.
>>551525095Yeah, I will never understand the complaints about making normal easier. Hard mode nerfs probably worth complaining about but normal mode is normal mode and should probably only be only kind of difficult at most.>>551541189Surprisingly little of the modern mythos was made by Lovecraft. Sure he contributed most of the big names but even then they got added too and changed since then.
>>551618089On the otherhand mouchette kinda wants to run with faint too, so there caro/chaos might be her team.
>>551542076>>551621637So the cthulhu mythos canon and characters runs on the same logic as modern creepypastas and the scp foundation where anyone can contribute?
ran out of rose scrip again......go on without me morifrens...
>>551621748Now I think about it Aequor is the only realm that doesn't have dedicated strike character. I guess Goliath, Sanga and Farros can count as such. But for a different reasons. Truly the only realm that dodged a bullet. For now.
I don't think Morimens gets enough credit for its combat chibis. Even without the visual effects, the animations are really nice and have lots of personality.
>>551626153Ramona love!
>>551626153true
>>551625019how?
>>551625647Goliath puts 3 strikes into hand and Aequor is good with Mouchette because her combos extend to 30+ hits.
>>551631150NTA but I started about a month and a half ago and money is a big bottleneck for me too...
Jenkins thighs
>>551631370Everyone who has finished chapter 1 of the main story will get a free dupe, and the devs said that they plan to make all collab content as permanent as possible, so there isn't nearly as much FOMO for her.
Spartans..
>>551629025I'd rather love Leigh. Because she's lovely!
>>551637802Very cute voice indeed!
Join us today!
>>551638671Me on the right
>>551638960Nice skirt, bro
if you paypig the arc 2 fomo chapter completion bundles you get 40 million rose scrip and 1000 thousand faces seals. it's kind of insane.
>>551639274Are there such deals before every new character? Will we get one for the maggot or Arachne?
>>551629831covenants....
>>551640625Chapter completion bundles are, as it says in the name, for completing a new story chapter, and we get one chapter every ~3 characters
>>551640625idk, but i'd expect there to be one after arc 2 chapter 5 whenever it comes out. i was a little surprised they didn't have any fomo bundles after hard mode chapters in general.
Can anyone help with password pvp? 935392
>>551642284just saw this, do you still need help?
>>551643058Yes 746022
>>551643058Thanks
>>551644140no prob
>>551618089Tinct is harder for me. Helot is very straight forward while Tinct is all about choices. But I guess Lodan will also work with both.
>>551648743Imo the main advantage of tinct is -1 cost to five cards which will let you play a lot of strikes, because strikes are hard to discount otherwise. but i can't figure out a way I like to get weak/vuln onto tinct+lotan+mouchette, it feels like the only options are castor/ogier or horla E1 (GDoll E2 feels like too much arithmetica)
>>551649895Horla and Daffodil are the ones I like from that realm so I might go for it for it.
>>551649895Horla makes the most sense to me, since you would want to save up strikes for a burst turn anyway and they usually don't have retain. Horla lets you sit in carol stance until you want to go off, then swap to red stance(which also puts down vuln).
>>551632083
>>551650494>>551650789probably... horla is so good that i was hoping for another answer but might be what i try first.alternatively aegis+thais/pickman will let you get a lot of aliemus (which lotan needs) and if you get OE mouchette (which nobody will do) you'll get double petrifies which is actually kind of ridiculous.
>>551651165can't we use the monthly thingie on her?
>>551652138She is permanent and works like any other limited awakener. Which means yeah. I'm not sure if they going to hurry up with re-run tho.
>>551652662Wait what? This is neat.
>>551652138we can, it's just there are lots of other characters who want those too and picking mouchette for your focus for seven months over someone like GMurphy or GDoll feels like it won't be too common. certainly a few people will do it and you'll be able to borrow her to try it out.
>>551651165>you'll get double petrifies which is actually kind of ridiculous.Pretty sure you can't double up on those. Once you petrify they get petrify resistance. What it does do is double her FAT exalt mod. Mix that with OE and Faint for lots of death res first and.....
>>551652901the sheet called it "fainted" status, so I didnt think it was a literal petrify.
>>551654619I'm pretty sure it's the same effect as aigis's exalt.
>spend all this time thinking I'm gonna get Inferno Doll>"ooh who's this fiery, Ra girl?">awesome voice, cool mechanic, uses fireIs she limited? and is she on par with Doll: Inferno?
>>551658127>Is she limitedSure but limited units in this game are pretty accessible, all things considered.>and is she on par with Doll: Inferno?She's a DPS carry unlike doll who's more of a support, for her role she's one of the best DPS in the game at e3, caveat being that you really do need e3 for her to be amazing.
>>551624948Exactly. The shared literary universe model predates the Internet.>>551649895Minimize the blast radius. Which of the three can you most easily replace on your existing teams?>>551652138Yeah, but you only get one a month, and if you use it on her, you're not using it on another Awakener.>>551652901Mouchette's stun isn't called Petrify, though. The game might very well consider it separate.>>551658127Different roles entirely. Kath is a damage dealer, GDoll is a support. Kath is strong enough to carry a team, GDoll makes a strong team stronger.People argue over whether GDoll needs E3 or OE to function, but everyone agrees Kath needs E3 to function, so if you pull either of them now, it'll take at least 3 months of buying protohorizons to make them work.
>>551658127imo kathugira is the by far the best E3 character in the game, but don't get her unless you plan to E3 her.she's so powerful that I think buffing her DEF wasn't something the devs foresaw. a standard build is blade of the titan + land of nonexistence for wheel, paradox or feast from afar for covenant.she really needs E3 to be good, but then she just solos the game in a way nobody else does, she's much stronger in arc2 than arc1 because she needs her rouse ASAP. she's well worth using dupe materials on to reach E3.
>>551658621>Mouchette's stun isn't called Petrify, though. The game might very well consider it separate.Very likely to be translation inconsistences. Aigis's petrify is called faint in traphase.
>>551658558>>551658621>>551658650mmm guess I'll make a decision once I hit enough posses. though I'm still leaning towards Doll to have both versions of them. I may just bide my time with Kath since she needs more investment to thrive
"Keeper, do NOT the evil women"
>>551659538Despite her being bottomless, Doll I does not posses a vagina or anus. She cannot wile me as others can. I am safe, Ramona.
>>551659815Zoom in on gdoll's crotch.
>>551659334i do think GDoll is probably the most distinctive looking character in morimens and in my head i consider her the mascot. but my E3 GDoll doesn't do all that much for me outside of the wave3 nymphea lilly team (24 aequor is I think her most popular team when not OE but my 24 is only E1).
>>55166017124 is good at e1, you just play her different than OE.
>>551659334In no timeline does GDoll require less investment than Kath.If you already have strong DDs but lack good support for them, pick GDoll.If you lack strong DDs, pick Kath.Either way, you'll be pumping your monthly dupes into them until at least E3.
>reading through the google doc guidedamn lmao is Ultra the ugly duckling that never gets prettier? I think their extra turn mechanic is cool, allows for for some crazy set ups. plus Tinct is there
>>551661959ultra has things going for it flares has just made being unfair to ultra part of his brand. Castor and Horla are uncontroversially two of the best characters in game, and outside of flares' head clementine is also uncontroversially an excellent overloaded support. most people recommend that you pick jenkin when starting the game because she's the best standard DD by a significant margin.
>>551661959Ultra has a few good characters but the realm mechanic isn't really that strong and as a whole it's bit unfriendly to newbies as a result. The biggest issue with purple is the lack of a survivability boost like you get with blue or red. Jenkin is one of the best standards(probably THE best standard DPS) and doesn't need much investment. Castor is one of the best characters in the game(and nearly a full team on his own, only really needing someone to apply vulnerability for him). Horla and Clem are both solid supports. That said, most of it's characters are niche at best and can't carry a newbie. It's (non jenkin) standards range from god awful to alright but only work in specific teams. It's got one of the worst limiteds in the game(wanda). And overall while it's good characters are good it's often better off splashed in other realms than played pure. Flares does play up his hate of it as a gimmick a lot but it's not without real issues, the extra turn is sloooooow to set up, gets cucked by the way multiple HP bars work, and often you are better off just annihilating for an insight card. And +1 draw/arith a turn is a pretty meh benefit for playing the realm.
>>551661959Ultra is loaded, it's Aequor that kinda need help at end game (Gmurphy saved Aequor from irrelevancy)
>>551661959Ultrash is the worst realm for a reason. There are no Ultra clears in endgame.
>>551663432Eh, even before gmurphy blue 24 and blue tawil were both solid teams. OE sanga was an A5 team too. And corpo(although in fairness both of those are a tier below the top). It's just aequor's characters were mostly support leaning and it was lacking DPS characters.
>>551663405>It's got one of the worst limiteds in the game(wanda)Wanda is not even that bad earlygame. If you can snag her somehow. Are there better counter characters? You bet. But none of them can cut major portion of enemy damage while forcing them do an extra attack on top of it. If only that didn't require 6D chess to setup....
>>551663574go away flares
>>551665582FUCK CLEM. WORST UNIT EVER.
I love my evil bug wife.
Most evil (wo)man in the game? Playable and NPCs?
>>551661959Ultra has a strong realm gimmick, but low numbers (especially for shields), poor scaling, a lot of bad standard units, and higher requirements for strategy and investment compared to other realms. (Leap/Quasar effects in particular place a huge opportunity cost on which card you play first each turn.) It isn't unplayable, but it's also not meant for new players or low spenders.Case in point: Clementine. (Ignore the anons who glaze the space bug.) She tries to do everything, but a Jill of all trades is a master of none. Her kit has good effects, but the numbers are low without heavy investment, and while her special space bug versions of Weak/Vuln stack with the real thing, they only last one turn; and if their precursor effect isn't at max stacks, triggering either of them is a waste.>>551662358>>551663432This is what Flares Derangement Syndrome looks like. Ignore takes like this.>>551664002"not even that bad earlygame" equals bad. The early game doesn't last forever.
>>551661959you can go to d-tide and look at top leaderboard clears too to see what ultras people use in deep endgame if you're interested.
>>551665970GDoll, and there's no contest. Being exposed to her for longer than ten minutes drives people insane, and she single-handedly destroyed her own world by summoning the final boss.(Would still smash.)
>>551666001castor is the best E0 character in the game along with GMurphy. you're being misleading. the guy was also reading a google document written by flares so there's no derangement syndrome here besides your own. complaining that a character with massive keyflare regen that scales strength and gives 45% multiplicative on burst turns does nothing is just plebeian. i encourage the poster to draw their own conclusions looking at what people actually play.
>>551665970
>>551663405>the realm mechanic isn't really that strong and as a whole it's bit unfriendly to newbies as a resultjenkin one turn kills all early game bosses
>>551666001>"not even that bad earlygame" equals bad I mean you can use her through Arc 1 just fine. It's when the death resist penalty applies things will get super sketchy. 9 chapters are still 9 chapters. If the metrics for you is D-tide or madness. I'm sorry. Your standards are way higher than mine.
>>551665970Miryam by far. Gdoll is evil too but was "merely" trying to do what amounts to mercy killing rather than being actively malicious.
>>551666751Jenkin isn't ultra. Jenkin is Jenkin, and she is powered by smelly keeper clothing.
jenkin's rat cunny ToT
>>551665970>NPCIt's arugable Herbert. But he comes of as such clown, that you really forget how much of cunt the guy actually is. "N" would be the most evil. But he is just shitposter of reality.
>>551666687>"you're being misleading" while pretending that one unit being good invalidates all criticism of the realm>can't even spell "plebian" right but tries to use it anyway>tries to use "i urge you to do your own research" like a Candace Owens simp and even manages to fuck that up>bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwSo did your mother keep taking birth control the entire time she was pregnant with you, or did she simply not fall down enough stairs?But you've proven my point for me. Take note, any new morifrens witnessing this tragedy: This is what FDS does to a Keeper.>>551666814Imagine you own a car.Now imagine that, no matter where you're trying to go, your car will only get you halfway there.What you have is a bad car.Coping "But it gets me halfway there!" does not make your car good.That car will remain bad until it is able to get you all the way to your destination.Simple as.>>551667273Miryam wasn't malicious, just misguided. She also didn't try to speedrun the annihilation of all existence.
>>551668781>does not make your car good.That's just putting words in my mouth at this point. Just because Wanda has no problem clearing Arc 1. Doesn't make her better than any other character. Which was my point. You either glued to the notion that I don't consider her F tier by default. Or decide to start shit for disagreeing with your opinion. Which one is this now?
>>551668781plebeian is the correct spelling you dumbfuck.
>>551668781all i'm witnessing is cringe
>>551668781Miryam is absolutely malicious. And probably my next OE target because she has spooked me enough that I'm close.
>>551669837And guess what?We're not in Arc 1 anymore.You do know that, don't you?It is very important that you understand we are no longer in Arc 1.>>551669915Eh, you're still a pretentious faggot for using it while caping for a faction in a mobile game. Cry about it.
>>551666001>but it's also not meant for new players or low spendersWhich realm is for low spenders?
>>551672462Blue best for f2p. Free shield and damage.
>>551672462Rather than specific realms just worry about strong characters. The only time you really need to worry about what realm to pull on is standard pulls before you go to wheel jail, and that ends once you have a baseline set of units. For that blue is usually recommended because it's easy to play and has useful standards that fit in many teams.
>>551670614She doesn't cause pain/suffering/destruction for its own sake, nor just to take pleasure in causing it. She's only evil insofar as any zealot is evil: If you believe you're working for some infinite good, there's no limit to the harm you can rationalize doing. Which is still evil, to be sure, but ruthless and malicious aren't the same thing.>>551672462>>551673003>>551674262A decent number of blue Awakeners also work at low Enlighten, too, which is another boon for F2P and low spenders. Seems like most of the units from other realms really want at least E2, usually E3.
>>551676350>Seems like most of the units from other realms really want at least E2, usually E3.This is more a part 2 thing than anything. Gmurphy aside, our only other part 2 blue is corpo who wants E2. Sure she is "functional" at e0, but given that she isn't super amazingly strong to begin with getting e2 for bigger numbers helps along. And even in gmurphy's case it's less she doesn't want dupes and more her baseline is already high because anni unit, her dupes are all great and high value(similar to castor who was half anni).
So should I use the spiral thingies to get Inferno's WoD or GHelot's wod?
>>551681703I'd keep it for now and you'll eventually figure out which one you need more. Or you can also save it for a future character's wod.
>>551681703I'm sitting on mine for while until I fail to pull a character's wheel that needs it to function. It's an oh shit button for me.
I really hope they change the 10 traphase wins to 10 matches...
>>551677538I'm not saying they don't benefit from dupes, I'm saying they still work before getting dupes.Celeste, Goliath, Murphy, and Tulu all work at E1, which means 40% of Aequor's ten non-welfare Awakeners work at E1. Abyss Order and Decapitation Damage are practically worthless at E0, while Vortex Reversal and Everlasting Phantasm are too expensive and situational to play every time they come up, but too important to discard willy-nilly.Faros and GMurphy work at E0 because dupes don't substantially change how they operate. The only difference is that GMurphy starts strong and gets stronger, while Faros starts meh and stays meh.So 6 of the 10 non-welfare Aequor Awakeners work at E1 or lower. That's better than Caro (6 out of 11) or Chaos (5 out of 12).Funnily enough, Ultra has the most units that have their kits fully working at either E1 or E0, so I guess the problem with Ultra really is that most of its units are just plain bad. Jenkin, Castor, and Horla still have to carry the entire Ultra realm on their backs. Daffodil could help, since she's more than strong enough to, but she decided she'd rather spend her time running the store, collecting skulls, and being a hot auntie. If you're a true patrician, ask her about her after-dark specials.
>>551695865>Abyss OrderThe main issue with it is 4 cost is heavy as hell. The card itself is rather good, being a high power piercing AOE. Honestly e1 doesn't change that much, especially now.
>>551365629Not a drill. Logged in just to complete my daily, got the pull, decided to change my Realm targets because of our earlier conversation about Tinct and I got her ...
>>551699804Yeah, that 4-cost is what makes it not so great. At least E1 lets you bump that down to a 2-cost with a bit of extra shield gain.Though, yeah, bit of a stretch on my part to say E1 is a huge improvement. More like you can actually play it sometimes instead of never playing any of Tulu's cards. I'll acquiesce and say he, too, works at E0.>>551701269Congratulations!
>>551701591The biggest issue with the E1 is it's white stance that discounts it when you'd rather play it while in red stance. It would be a good card at E1 if red stance was the discount.
Still waiting for us to get the JP Tulu buffs...
>>551704189Fair, but why spoiler this?
>>551705721Because I like talking in black bars. It's fun.
>>551672462Roll blue until you get at least one copy of Caucus, Celeste and goliath. After that swap to chaos since it has the strongest limited options and you're statistically likely to get at least 1 of them after awhile. When we get the next reset item(these can reset enlightens on units you don't want to exchange for better ones.) use it to reset whichever has the most enlightens out of Faros, Pandia, or Alva and use th items you get to pick Jenkins, then later Winkle. In the store buy out the items to enhance Ogier and Aigis each month. Don't neglect Ramona, level her up, she's great. Spend your limited rolls you'll get early on to get one copy of G Murphy, then save for whatever else you want.Once you get a limited character on chaos, you can switch to the standard wheel banner and pic Titan's blade to start rolling for until you get it to +12.
Man, I just can't be assed to put in effort during a dtide full of emergency contacts.
>>551701269horla is ridiculously good. use a dupe on her as soon as you can because at E1 you'll have an insanely powerful unit.
22 hours left!!!! PULL YOUR GMURPHY!!!!!!!!
morinight, morifrens!
After beating Thais in Ch8 Hard...
Up!
>>551712975don't want her
>>551715475I like how her texts make it seem like the Keeper and her are fuck buddies
>>551712975I already have her at E3, now I'm saving my pulls for Mouchette. >>551724965She's the school bike.
>>551725398Wow rude, just because every awaker around is trying to rape me doesn't make me a bike.
>>551726123Leonora? How'd you know I was talking about you and not Thais!?
cold .
>>551624948>anyone can contribute?Pretty much. There was a big group of weird tales, sci fi, and fantasy writers that all wrote letters to each other back in the 1920s and added to the whole idea of the Cthulhu mythos. Even some of the letters they wrote to each other are interesting.Just ignore any lore Derleth added to the mythos that isn't just a god or monster and most of the mythos is pretty good. Well ignore Lumley too but mostly because he is a Derleth dick sucker and also misses the point entirely.
>>551652764Yeah. Dev mentioned on dicksword or somewhere that they got a permenant licence so she is effectively just another limited awakener and if they ever don't get that for a collab they will specificly mention it.
>>551661959Other have probably already mentioned it but if it is the Flares guide then you can safetly ignore 90% of what he says about Ultra and 100% of what he says about Clementine.
>>551726123I'm pretty sure I have seen your pupils turn into hearts so it is not rape.
>>551735642Indeed, it has come up. I for one have made a point to tell everybody that Ultra glazers and Clem simps are to be ignored unconditionally.
when I started playing the game, I liked horla but part of that was that I knew she was cheap and only needed e0/e1 to be great. clem was the first unit I unconditionally loved from her design and early story appearances, and wanted to dump mimetics and gnosis into to play her at as powerful of a state as I could. she wasn't my first OE only because tawil's rerun came before anni (and I had inexplicably good luck on tawil, getting OE for 180 pulls, otherwise I'd have stopped at e3), and clem will also probably be the unit I bring to level 80 first.could these resources be better spent on a carry? yeah probably. but do I really love the character? yeah. when I click lifeform reconstruction or subconscious corrosion and clem does 50k damage to everything and nukes incoming damage and gives me 120 str all at once it's all worth it. play for your heart morifrens...
>>551738738The problem is, as always, that some people aren't content to like what they like, but instead demand everyone else like it too. If that's not you, then god bless.If anyone was caping for Pandia, Alva, or Chaos in general as vehemently as the average Clem/Ultra glazer (or that weird illiterate who thinks Wanda is good even though she can only handle Arc 1 content currently), you'd see the rest of us shitting on Pandia/Alva/Chaos enjoyers too.Like what you like, just don't love it the way a toddler loves Mommy.
>>551738208Go home Flares, you suck.
>>551739265>PandiaI see you are new and have never seen the various Pandia enjoyers who post here. You need to go back.
>>551739265it's just an overcorrection, yeah. people see the flares hatred and it's not accurate and they want to make sure the new players don't get propagandized too bad so they propagandize the other way and it just ends up being a polarized discussion with little of use to those new players who just want some directions on how to navigate their early resources
>>551739736>propagandizedNobody's propagandizing shit. This is not a hot-button social issue. This is a video game.One side is a dude who makes guides for the game and gives reasons for his evaluations. In other words, a guy actually contributing information to those new players you claim to care about.The other side is a bunch of anons and Redditors who shit their pants whenever their precious purple alien faction is criticized and accuse everybody they don't like of being that guy.This is not a gray-and-gray situation. This is not "overcorrection." This is one guy contributing and a mob of retards hating him for it."Propagandized." Fucking hell. Go learn what words mean.
Hi Flare.
>>551740425you are a sperg retard. you make generalizations that make no sense like evaluating "factions" and not characters and team comps. This isn't shadowverse, you don't get to ignore entire factions, you play the best characters from every faction and no one cares which faction is stronger than others because the best characters in any faction are stronger, by a lot, than the average characters in any other faction. if a new player sees generalizations like "ultra is bad" they will conclude that they should not pull ultra characters, which is obviously wrong, everyone should (and eventually will) pull the best ultra characters.
Even Flares calls the good ultra characters good, aside from clem. But hating clem is his gimmick.
>>551740928You're so angry and/or braindead that you can't even write a coherent sentence to support your point. You are exactly what I mean when I mentioned people loving Clem like a toddler loves Mommy. If you're too stupid to understand what people say to you, that's your problem.
>>551741096You literally can't respond, because i'm correct and you are not smart enough to hold correct beliefs and too much of a pathetic narcissist to correct your own mistaken beliefs. i don't know why you come here just to embarrass yourself and act stupid nobody is impressed.
>>551741325
and you guys were complaining that we didn't have any funny schizos
>mouchette scales on death resistancenyo.....
>>551742127It's time to +12 that Lily wheel, anyonpipi
>>551742127She wants a death res dreams set, ideally.
>>551705317probably never happening considering those buffs are in the context of all other characters being different tooat best we can hope for a cost reduction for his rouse or something, because it seems way overcosted at 3 for current standards
>>551741807Ehh. I don't know that these ones are funny. Maybe he'll grow on me.
>>551742448i didn't realize that a.) burial ground's sighs 6-set doesn't give the awakener death resistance, and b.) sweet slug has a stronger 3-piece effect than other sets. wondering if it's memey to put two three piece sets on E1 mouchette, it amounts to 41% DR, 6 crit rate and 6 crit damage.scarlet embrace is the other appealing mouchette option because it should work with the follow-up attacks.
>>551742681i can imagine that just because E2 mortal blast is so good yeah.
>>551742932>sweet slug has a stronger 3-piece effect than other setsOh shit, I never noticed that. Usually we only ever look at the full 6-piece effect. Might try out some funky combinations with the new covenants now.
>>551744109it's true for all three of the weird hyperspecific astral reign sets, which makes me feel better about their existence because they kind of annoyed me before.
>>551742932You know if it didn't have a 3 turn cooldown slug woud be a pretty good covenant.
>>551740425Whatever floats your boat Flares.
windy day in here
>>551748979that was me. sorry..
>>551749626Ithaqua...
>>551749626... woah
fuck off flares
Hi flares put me in your next video.
Who the fuck is that guy?
>>551757563Giggawhale with schizophrenia.
>>551757563Guide creator, has a lot of useful info but also has a gimmick personality.
I don't even like him that much but Flares at least plays the game, while most of his detractors especially on Reddit couldn't even do alert 3.They will use excuse like dtide being made for whales despite several f2ps doing 400+ on the leaderboard.
>>551705317>>551742723JP Tulu? Other character buffs? I use him as an Aftershock bot in my Discard comp if Aurita's too busy
>>551744109BIAV needs to hurry up and give us our own dog.
>>551759621JP server is a whole different game under the same mask, with different balancing, mechanics, scaling, etc.
>>551759827>our own dog I could swear someone has posted concept art for this already.
>>551759896Sounds like unnecessary extra work
>>551759827Ceobe is unique in the multiverse.
>>551760115The localization deal was basically the publisher can do whatever. So the publisher changed a bunch of shit.
>>551759827We have ryker I guess? He's a dog. Or you can count the hound of tindalos that stalks you if you fuck with the wrong shit.
>>551760115Devs get to test out all their new ideas on the jp server first before implementing them into our server. Can already see it with +10 level stat buffs all the limiteds got, GMurphy's JP Aequor realm, and E1 scaling talents.
>>551758953as one of the posters above i wasn't trying to detract flares. I like that he makes guides and stuff. you can see his clear right near the top of the leaderboard every week which is really cool. i don't think his ultra bashing is entirely serious because there are ultra characters he rates highly, but in this case the newcutie reading his guide took it entirely seriously.(I don't think Flares has posted in this thread)
It is done. Fucking kek, her max stats only go up to 99. Not even 100
>>551760738i kneel
>>551760412>hound of tindalosCan they even count as dogs?
>>551760662As I said, I don't particularly like (or even watch) his guide, nor do I agree with him on many things (making the ultra meme into his brand being one of them), but I noticed that at some point the anti-Flare cult started making as little sense as the Flare cult itself.
asking as a newer player why do I never see this set used? gaining 25 to 50 life every time you posse seems kind of good and it looks like you can do it 2x per turn if I'm understanding correctly.
I swear I saw her stat numbers flicker to 100 for a single frame after leveling her. Maybe they're all at 99.9 and the game took a bit to round it down.
>>551761160this set...
>>551761160it's used pretty frequently actually, if you watch replays of high difficulty clears you'll see it relatively oftenlower difficulties with less optimized teams can't really make use of it because of lack keyflare
>>551761258Meant to post this pic, too.
>>551761160It is often used. Look at some posse spamming teams on the leaderboards and you'll see it.
>>551761383Damn her stats are so low that must means her skills are pretty good right?
>>551761004Hound is in the name so it totally counts.
>>551761678Y-yeah. She is on par with G-Murphy....
>>551761375ty, I probably checked the wrong awakeners, salvador immediately made sense to me just because fat con and low life but I'll click around and see who else it might get used on.
>>551761383how much str does her exalt generate at +12?
Guys, are 8 copies the recommended stop point for the average player? Or do you need to go full retard with it?
>>551761269It's kind of a weird case because of the differences between the arc 1 and arc 2 rulesets. Arc 1 lets you heal as much as you want, but your awakeners don't benefit from the extra stat bonuses from their arc 2 talents, making the healing less impactful. In arc 2, you get those extra stats, but the ruleset reduces all healing by 25% after it you heal any amount equal to your max hp in a given battle. Pretty sure it goes down to 50% and 25%, but it's rare for any normal fight to go on that long. You also want to use your keyflare in arc 2 to rouse your awakeners instead.
>>551761869It depends on the character.
>>551761818Behold my autism.https://pastebin.com/1xU1fapS
What does a Kat team want?
>>5517618698 is a stopping point for dolphins/mid-spendersf2ps/low-spenders should first get their entire d-tide roster up and running (5 teams), before getting their first OE
>>551762408E3! but also a second strength scaler is helpful because kath's not the fastest. weak/vuln as always, extra aliemus or arithmetica generation is good too especially on paradox. clem+horla is probably wasting too many good units on kath but it's a really powerful duo for her and you can even use the last word in kath ultra for even more aliemus and keyflare. this is all assuming you're doing the meta strat of using either land of nonexistence or will unyielding as second weapon + paradox/feast from afar as cov.i'm not at the point of doing alert V yet but this hasn't had issues with alert IV.
>>551762408E3 Kath and STR stacker. If you run her without feast beyond + will unyielding you might consider getting someone who can keep your team alive. Salvador/Ogier etc.
>>551762189that is quite some dedication, impressive>If a Devour effect occurs, the exalt is granted the base Strength again (30+30 = 60).Is this correct though? I think awhile ago some anon who might or might not have been you said it doubled the gained strength per embryo so for example in the case of eating a Thais embryo it would be (30*2)*2=120 instead of the 30+30*2=90 like how you described it in the pastebin.
>>551763223Can you name some of the str stackers?
>>551763638Clem is the bestOgier is the cheapestOthers are Hameln, Thais, Pickmam, Doresian, etc.
>>551763837we aren't fond of bugs in this realm, Keeper
>>551763638Pretty much best options already listed by anon above. Some more "zany" and by "zany" I mean something that can give you STR, but the way STR is provided to you either very situational or temporary. Are Casiah, GRamona and Ryker. They help you with draw too. E2 Goliath. Agripppa/Tinict exalt only, but have some utility with cost reduction. And I guess Daffodil maybe. Not great STR stacker but has vuln and "Free" insight for Hyperflare X.
>>551763279That was me, yes. But then I wanted to be sure that it worked that way, and tested it myself. So, turns out I was wrong. That math (2x2x2xetc) only works up until 3 embryos, if I remember, but the actual in-game formula is linear instead of exponential.
>>551763638Caro in general is a good counterpart realm for Kath. Set up her burst turn, use a Caro awakener's exalt with devour for a nice chunk of shield and temp strength, and let her loose.
>>551744991they've been putting so many 3turn cooldowns on stuff lately
