Merry CHRISTmas Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-16-2025-update.93983/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>551190528
Merry Christmas, Deadlockbros. Barely any time to grind ornaments lately. Got to cook a 4 course meal tomorrow so I've been doing prepGonna cook a goose. I hope you all have a jolly time.
Viscous(F) > Vyper > Paige > Paradox > Mina for hottest girl.None other matter.
*hooks u*
>>551375453>tankbusterRaped item
>>551374837This will be your wraith in your next ascendant 3 game. Everybody say hello!
>>551376290just now I had a talon who bought melee lifesteal as first item to pivot into full punch talon>I am having fun broHe says on vc to then ragequit first when we get our base sieged.Phantom btw
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
When are they adding a game mode thats not this shitty lane moba garbage?
This final boss is challenging... I'm actually not doing horribly but I'm not getting the roll of the dice with the teams :(RELEASE ME FROM THIS CHALLENGE HELL
>>551375453merry christmas too
>>551375750You gotta do a 180 with the camera after you hook someone, Anon. Extra displacement for free.
>>551377598o fuk that works? I don't play bebop much. I'll have to 'member that.
no surrender button is pure retardation on these devs
>>551378138You're trying to treat the symptom, not the disease. Dumb Leaguebaby.
>>551378138True. If your down two lane gaurdians before 12 minutes just fucking hang it up and stop wasting everyones time.
Alright maybe I've been a bit of a salty baby, fuck it. If everyone's learning new heroes cause of the tree I might as well pick up someone new, like Sinclair
>>551378138after the extra slots change it doesn't bother me as much
>>551378334>not the diseaseThe absolute dogshit matchmaking?
>>551378723Bingo. Matchmaking and some mechanics that cause games to drag out. Seriously, imagine if they added forfeiting then created good matchmaking. It would be for naught since the whole playerbase would be poisoned to give up after 15 minutes and whine for forefeits every other game! That's why a surrender option should never be considered.
>>551373339Please understand, think of all the valuable data there is to gather about games being decided from the very start due to there being no way of knowing what heroes your teammates will run
>>551379161Instead everyone will simply not play the game lol. Like what's happened
>>551379161sadly icefraud is of the mentality that believes "if we had a forfeit people would stop trying at the early inconvenience" as if that didn't fucking happen anyways
>eat shit in lane>lose lane early>do fuck all the entier game>0-17>still winHOLY FUCK my actions literally have ZERO impact on weather or not my team wins or not. What even?
>>551375453>absolute deathball >two teammates pushing the one lane without a walkerAhh, deadlock
Venator drops today
>>551379731>teammate loses lane>proceeds to not care about the game at all and afk farms/pushes the whole timemany such cases, and i dont play because of this
Almost finished the challenge all that's left is Infernus, Kelvin, Vyper, Wraith and Paige. God I'm probably gonna hate doing Wraith and I've BEEN hating Vyper every single time
>>551382545Honestly I never played wraith in my 1000+ heroes but she was really fun when I got her for the challenge. Might actually start maining her for a bit
all this challenge did for me was make me hate the game even more
>warden's high-pitched death yelphehe
if you need cash nowcall j.g. wentworth877 cash now
>>551383130Warden, Lash, Viscous and Vindicta got the best death screams.
>>551375453Based chef
WE DID ITBIG COMEBACK VICTORYI NEVER HAVE TO PLAY YAMATO AGAIN LFG
>>551382995yeah fuck this gamenew heroes wont make this garbage anymore fun anymore
>>551382995>>551385846All I can ask for is major map changes or at least for Street Brawl to be extremely replayable
>>551346014that sounds like a good image and i wish to see it one day
>>551384698good job, bud
>>551384698>I NEVER HAVE TO PLAY YAMATO AGAINI feel you, this challenge opened my eyes to how shit some hero's kits are. It's hilarious how Yamato has to sit through a slow ass charge just to do her 1, while most characters can just press it to get instant damage at a longer range with a shorter cooldown
>>551374837mina is such a hottie, hope shes wrapped up under my tree tomorrow morning
>>551384698>>551388558It doesn't help that she looks like an alien
>>551389160Everything about Yamato feels like she was copy and pasted in from a first draft from the early Neon Prime days, frankly I think her entire kit needs a rework into something more interesting
>>551389212Imma be honest senpai, all you gotta do is spam M2 and buy torment pulse, radiant regen and a shit ton of resist, it's foolproof.
>>551390191I get that, it's just that I think she's fundamentally boring
>ornigger starts crying in all chat that I’m raping the pubs with victorlol, lmao even
Anyone that suggests a hero rework never actually has a suggestion on how to rework them, it's always just retards shouting "DO BETTER!"
>finally figure out vindicta>both left and right lane shit their pants
>trying for Paige ornament>get my shit absolutely rocked by a ult/punch InfernusI'm surprised this build isn't run more often, I was genuinely terrified
>playing match>teammate complaining in all chat that we're gonna lose>someone on the enemy team that I don't recognize says "don't worry, [my name] will carry"g-gosh, I didn't know I was popular
>>551390803Actually yeah with his damage amp his heavy melee must hit extremely hard. I like to go full spirit with phantom strike to teleport explode on people
i'm not gonna get better at the game am i
Give me some Abrams tips.I already got his ornament I just wanna play him for fun now
>>551391719you should rape all squishies with leveled charge and point blank, like it's not even close early/mid game, flank them and come out the alley ways/veils
Infernal resilience should have an active that makes Abrams invisible
Tried Mirage todayVery unfun characterIf I wanted to be a split push bot that does okay if the enemy is distracted I'd play McGinnis
>>551394183I just hate how counterintuitive his mark is since firerate just fucks yourself over. It was nice that they finally made CDR work on his mark but it still feels like shit
>no avoid user option>you requeue in the same lane as them
>>551394683This is why I always wait a little bit before requeing
>wander isn't a "sissy libtard" and also hosted masonholy based
>>551375638Paige is without a doubt the hottest and she is also unshaven
>when the core of your kit is hard countered by being 1cm off of the ground
>>551374837Is there a new version of this?also only unemployed people with infinite free time play deadlock
>Hey guys this was a bad time to run urn>Infernus retard with no retard randomly explodes at spends the rest of the game flamingI see the holiday spirit's going strong.
>>551397827Never play pvp games this close to major holidays. 90% chance you run into sweats, schizos, or most likely some mixture of the two.
>>551397749employed people have no time for hobbies full stop
I don't get how to play Vyper in late game. My instinct tells me to slide in, do a bunch of damage and press 4 if things get dicey, but I'm way too squishy for that it seems
at this point I think yoshi just wants the game to fail, I'm sure more movement nerf and orange items buffs are on the way
>>551400516vyper's lategame is about nuking people and pray they don't have time to react
>>551400516>slidingRookie mistake, unbind your crouch key
>>551394183I dont know why people split push with mcginnis. Well thats not true, I know why, it just seems stupid to go balls deep solo with the worst mobility character
>>551402095early game wall is enough to gtfo if it's the sidelane vaultside since two stam is enough to get to the vent
>>551402343>vent to escapeDon't tell yoshi
>>551390715with those mods you deserve nothing but continuous loss
>>551392823No, it should have an active that makes him bouncy. Wall jump and you spring off. Punch someone and they fly away.
>>551400516She falls off big time and if you don't kill them you just die. The good news is that she also has insane DPS so in a 1v1 you should almost always win and you're great at killing objectives.
>>551402343>>551402671>ventsus
>take a month break so valve gives me server admin gamesStomping noobs is so comfy...
>>551375453MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
>Vyper downplayerNext you're going to tell me Billy takes skill.
>>551406995Billy does take skill you have to know when to not die.
>>551407504A skill many Billy players lack
>bait the parry>they get to just dash away before I am allowed to punish itDumb dumb dumb
Merry Christmas/dlg/!I bring Reverb mirage. The reverb cooldown is synced with the 12x mark stack speed at about 4.5 seconds. Coincidentally has a shit load of spirit lifesteal. Add boundless and you are hitting for 2k+
>secret branch was updated multiple times yesterday/todaySo when is that "couple of weeks" when everyone is taking a vacation starting? Because if they are still working, I'm going to doubt the January release.
light melee.baa.
>>551409229>risk: one light melee or a few bullets to the face>reward: two heavy melees with increased damageIt don't add up.
>>551409129It should be noted that ricochet doesnt work with this build because it will trigger on the low stacks and your team will probably flame you for skipping it
>>551409129Do I rush reverb first?
>walk through screen>light melee enemy>instantly get parriedI'm calling santa clause and you're getting coal naughty boy
>>551409630 it wont be synced until you have the cdr from spiritual overflow and Transcendent so Id reccomend after those but its not terrible to get earlier it just wont proc every time
https://steamdb.info/app/3488080/history/Who in the FUCK is still working on Christmas Eve?
>>551410481I keep telling you niggasThis is a passion projectThe devs on this are doing it because they care, not because they're cashing in the valve checks and doing little else
>>551410591I've always held the opinion that everything at Valve is a passion project besides the storefront faggots and CS niggers.
>>551410481Yoshit.....
>>551410481I want to know who is checking steamdb for database updates on christmas eve/day?That fucker right there is sad beyond belief.
>>551408976>miss the parry>dash away>get hit despite being two meters awayyeah idk we're not playing the same game I guess
>>551410863It will always be>enemy dashes>my melee doesn't register>I dash>get melee'd by enemy and someone from another lane
>>551410839One is heading to a bookmarked link for 5 secondsThe other is working at seattle in the 24th of december lmao
>>551410481muslims
>>551410839it's called an RSS feed
>>551411947>>551411429cope and seethe
>>551412235you are on 4chan on Christmas
>>551374837Finished my Christmas Challenge on Christmas Day. Learned that I like a lot more of the cast than I thought.
>>551378527F tier raped hero not even hex is good anymore. Bolts suck dick against anyone who knows how to double jump. Only thing this cuck hero has going for it is pretty brainless mid contest and 30s cd ults which he'll somehow have less impact on than the actual character. Usually cause he's busy missing T5 bolts instead.
>there could be orniggers in the thread at this very moment
>>551395159>he does the same>requeue into eachother anywaysone time I had some salty lash faggot on my team who was worthless in lane and i proceeded to get him 3 games in a row after against him. raped him every game and teabagged on repeat. pretty sure he just quit the game after that cause I didn't see him ever again.
>get to ascended 5 by playing characters i dont really need to aim in gunfights that much>decide to play geist, a char that requires aiming>drop to phantom 6jesus christ.
>>551398212>90% chance you run into sweatsnah every game I've played in ascendant EU the past two days has had like 60 IQ monkeys that literally don't communicate once all game and just BROOL while 40k networth down, never contest an urn, never defend walkers, never farm for big items, never listen to any calls I make on objectives/danger/items. and then when I'm winning it just feels like I'm playing against retards like that. basically no satisfying games. I genuinely think actually competitive people have families that love them and the only people playing this shit atm eat a tin of beans with some tesco lager for their christmas dinners.
>>551401724vyper's lategame is about having an ivy tether to you with heroic aura + healing tempo for the 130% rate of fire buff so you delete someone in 1 second.
Silver.
>“Any man who tries to be good all the time is bound to come to ruin among the great number who are not good." - Niccolo Machiavelli Support life
>>551413586mina cheek peakwhat a good day to be alive
>>551414115They really need to change his kit. Even good Sinclair players have such little impact on matches. If there's not a good ult you might as well afk and not steal souls from allies that actually will help.
Picked up Victor 8 games ago. This is disgusting
>>551415608What build are you using on him?
>>551415608You're not even that farmed so I'm guessing lucky RNG, carried by teammates, or in lowbie lobbies that everyone is piss scared of Victor for no reason.
>>551414456Geist is practically immortal with all the lifesteal she has idk what to tell you mate
>>551415668Herest build>>551415712Yeah obviously. Only in oracle 4. Id say ive been unlucky with teammates. My laning stilll hasnt improved because im consistently facing their top performer in lane while my team mate is absolute shite
>>551415608He's legit disgusting. Picked him up for the first time yesterday when me and a friend are learning new heroes and I solo carried while half my team was like 0/5. This was in spite of me fucking up, pressing the wrong buttons constantly but just having basic macro (unga bunga stay in side line and swallow farm) lets you snowball so hard.By the end game I was just running at the enemy 1 v 3 and coming out ontop while my team sniffs glue.If you wanted to spam a hero for free rank, this is the guy.
>>551415787>im consistently facing their top performer in lane while my team mate is absolute shiteNow imagine being a support and having this happen. It's so demoralising. You're sitting there with 5k souls, your team mates 3k souls with no ult still. The enemy is like a collective 4k ahead because your team mates been feeding them in ways that you can't stop him dying and sticking around would just get you killed too. You're now 6k behind the enemy laners. They've taken your tower. And this 1-6 retard infernus wants to hog a lane with you and he's not even smart enough to stall the lane near your walker.
you are mo and krillyour enemy lane is dicta minawhat do you do
>>551414115I won my ornament challenge for Sinclair with a hybrid assistant build, where I 1v1'd a wraith who was almost 10k souls ahead of me. Just because the pros don't do it doesn't mean it's not viable.
>>551417132monster rounds, sprint shoesfarm troopers, leave to farm boxes and only come back for troopersdo not engage or interact.
>>551417348while shooting troopers under bridge you've been headshot booster crowd and love bites proc'd.your seven lane partner is at critical health.
>>551417539I scorn, absorb the health orb minion, and go back to farming boxes after clearing the wave
>>551417640seven has now died twice.he is saying something in chinese.you cannot understand it.
>>551417752I feel like this leads to being eaten by a gru or some other text adventure pitfall
Mina orb down, wow this hero is squishy but is also a slippery little bastard. Rebuttal saved my ass a bunch because both Bebop and Lash were doing melee builds
>>551417539*throws pocket sand at themyour response?
why does warden get a 200 damage 7s cd nuke in lane with a "fuck you" button every 40s that puts you in gay baby jail if you so much as decide to dash at any point during laning phase AND get a gun that does 50000000000000000 dps from level 1
>>551419054because his ult which is the real kick in the dick when he 1 v 4s you is easy to cuck him out of
>>551419054Because he feels like shit to play. He's one of the jankiest characters
>>5514190540 mobility 1 damage abilityult takes half an hour to charge during which he is completely vulnerable
>>551418387the Mina is now complete covered in sand sized Pockets.what follows can only be truly visualized by a twitter artist with too much yaoi on their hard drive.
>>551379731it makes sense in Dota where advantages are a lot flimsier when everyone is competent, here where anywhere past seeker game is p much over if you're 20k down/facing rejuv with your buildings down cuz the macro is very LoL-ish tho...
>>551417132>>551417539>>551417752I camp veil, tell my seven in very racist Chinese impersonation to max 2 and slap it on me. I dive the mina and save for Phantom strike first item
map is very basic right now and there isn't enough stuff to do in it so falling behind means afking at your walkeronce the map gets filled out a surrender button won't feel like it's missing anymore
>play driftoid>getting cucked out of everything by enemy shiv and bebop>enemy team refuses to just push to end>manage to scrape together a few souls>mog every fightnever should've let the homeless creeper get out of abject poverty!
>Spirit Sap gets nerfed because Focus Lens gets nerfedjust remove Spirit Sap at this point it isn't worth buying as a 1600
>>551423093Its the worst t2 spirit and yet still its basically a 50% winrate. Spirit has no bad items
>>551417752rotate to collect my free kills after sweeping my lane in 5 minutes and the enemy mirage and geist fucked off to jungle/boxes in fear and shame
>>551416102Yeah, the challenge really opened my eyes to how little rank means. You can ride one of the braindead heroes to ranks far above what your actual skill is.
>trying to push green lane as yamato with 9k>11k mina shows up and we fight 1v1 with ults for a good 30-40 seconds>teammate shows up to join the push and mina immediately peels off with teleports>someone else's mic lights up: "have you guys seriously been 2v1ing this mina for like two minutes and you cant kill her?"never wanted to call someone a nigger retard more than that moment desu
mina ult should scale bat density not durationthere's no use in getting past +25 bats because something's gonna force you to cancel ult anyways
>>551424253>hooks mina out of the sky with bebop>she's now on the ground continuing to cast bats>hook mirage as he's channeling teleport>he just continues to channel but in a new locationhook should cancel channeling
>>551415608Victor was one of the few characters I beat the holiday challenge with in one try. I thought I would like him because I love playing Skeleton King in Dota 2, but Victor is...too easy. It feels like you could pubstomp with him until you are getting placed against constant stacks that coordinate against you.
Doorman is genuinely so aids cancer to play against
>>551423802real talk though how do you fight mina for longer than 30 seconds without killing her?
>>551424413>215 damage bells before 4 minutesgenuinely why
>>551424530*scooby doo chase theme*
>>551424530it was more like a back and forth skirmish around her guardian
>>551409215Please tell me you meant that as a "they're late so the update might actually be in Feb" and you're not ACTUALLY still huffing copium for a release before 2026.
AS BEBOP IF YOU'RE ULTING INTO A WALKER DON'T STAND INSIDE THE CIRCLEYOUR JOB IS TO ZONE THE ENEMIES STANDING BEHIND THE WALKERS FROM A SAFE DISTANCE AS YOUR GUN CHARACTERS DRILL INTO THE WALKERYOUR ULT DOES LIKE 20% DAMAGE TO OBJECTIVES.
>>551409215nigga yoshi himself confirmed it will come out in january stop fucking coping
>>551423093That's the funniest thing about how active items were treated in games like LoL and SMITE. Once I got ahold of DotA, and now Deadlock, its like the items are a quarter of a characters kit on their own.>Bought focus lense for the first time>think, "eh, it'll do the effect and give me a little damage to work with>after the timer counts down, and I do my damage, its like they got executed>mfw
>>551424765>>551424941Of course I meant that the update is gonna come out in February. Seems like they are going start their vacation so late that half of January is going to be lost.And there's no way they will just come back to work and immediately push the update out. It's going be another week or two after the vacation before the release which takes us to February.
>>551425319they already took the vacation but it's likely there's still some dudes working on their own because they decided to take vacation on another date for their own reasons (you'd know about this kind of thing if you weren't unemployed)
>>551425423depends on how Valve handles PTO rollovers (you'd know about this kind of thing if you weren't unemployed)
>>551425423Valve is a really unique company, don't apply your normal company logic to their inner workingsI've actually worked in a really small tech company and there wasn't even the usual "x% people need to be present at the office at all times". Come summer and Christmas, the whole company basically shut down for the holidays.
>>551425567i think it's easy to assume valve takes good care of their developers considering that well... it's fucking valvebesides, no company would want to have all their workforce out even for a week, there always has to be some skeleton crew at the very least
>>551425279the only have one active that's a skillshot though everything else is a point and click or a gigantic aoe which is kinda uninteresting
>>551424394Someone said it in the other thread but Victor feels like ass if your team doesnt know how to play around Victor. Just now i had a game where I felt like I was 1v6 the entire game. Doesnt matter whether I joined the fight late or initiated, I always ended up alone with my team doing their own thing. Maybe thats good idk, feels like ass tho
>>551426527he's the best damage sponge in the gamebut also the most kiteablein terms of how hard it is to get away from them and how much punishment they can take before they die it goes>victor - billy - mo - abrams - shiv
>teammate seven goes 0-14 with 27k souls at 36 minutessanta's elven agents are invading my games because i've been naughty
>>551426980What about Yamato
>>551427889yamato is after shiv because of flying strike and her 3 not scaling with enemies hit for some reason
>>551428130>her 3 not scaling with enemies hit for some reasonI never even realized that. But i guess it’d be kinda disgusting with the healing
>>551426980>but also the most kiteable>be me>ornamentfag trying to get my viscous ornament>clearing wave, enemy victor is approaching>he's fed as fuck so there's no chance in hell i'm taking the fight>"i'll try and use my character-specific movement to get away">punch myself away>... right into a wall so i go a total of three feet>mfw
how do people even play victor, he feels so clunky and like he was built for ps1 tank controls
>>551428929you become 20k ahead of everyone then start doing thishttps://youtu.be/WxzH8s42e9k?
>>551391719Go all green, all resists, and just be in the way. It's really funny.
>buy mystic slow, suppressor, juggernaut on Kelvin>make the enemy Drifter ragequitMerry Christmas, everyone
During my last ornament chase finally playing for the first time as Lash I was having fun with a full Flog build. I did Radiant and damage. Was pretty fun.
>>551428929>1949 did either of the world wars even happen in deadlock lore?
people just don’t know how to itemize or play against victor stillIf you play literally any m1gger, spirit nuker, or vindicta, he should melt to you.>play seven>buy enduring speed, fleetfoot, mystic slow, healbane>literally walk out of his aura
>>551410994I fucking hate it
>>551429645I mostly agree but if you're a front liner (Billy, Shiv, Abrams, Yamato, etc) you legit have zero choice but to get infront of him. And if you team ain't helping, ur fucked lategame
>>551429645Woah victor is weak to both gun and spirit?! What's victor supposed to do then???
>>551429645if he's got a paige with him he's unstoppable db clears afflictionknockdown forces fliers to stay grounded
>>551419726>zero mobility >faggy shield lets him run at Mach 10
>>551429892yea he counters frontliners and supports heavy lategame which means you have to sweat your tits off and invade his jungle when you’re more powerful we all know the matchmaker is horrible tho>>551429949he takes a lot of space>>551429950that’s leaving it up to a draft and matchmaker diff
>>551424413>>551424556I don't mind the damage, what I do mind is that it comes out lightning speed so there's no dodging it.Either it should come out slower or have an inactive time of a fraction of a second before it can be triggered.
>>551429618You think Frankenstein is fully canon in Deadlock and when the first Maelstrom happened, a soul possessed the monster's body? Or do you think Victor came to be due to the now existence of spirits and magic and what not?
>2026>Americans still calling Mo "Morris", even when Krill clearly says Maurice.
>>551430697Moseph and Krilliam
>phantom>putting me in archon lobbies against faggots that talk shit all game on christmaslol
it's really funny how pocket is all apologetic while nuking 6 people with super frog aids
>>551430697Its actually Mohammed
>>551431317Mohammed and Krillstein. They defeated racism.
>>551431315>"it'll hurt them, but it won't kill them">frog aids puts them 9 toes in death's doorI have a feeling his father was in the right...
George and his mole partner, Floyd
>>551430697literally nobody does that
>>551424413>>551424556>>551430480l2p>what I do mind is that it comes out lightning speed so there's no dodging it.lol
>>551415608>barely 5k> ahead of game timer while winninglol you are getting carried, you should be earning around 2k per min and should be 20k+ above the timer
>>551432057>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728835285/#728847938
>551432651>one post from a week ago that was probably youyou lost
>>551432651That was me but but I'm not a burger so your accents sound off sometimes.
>>551432756https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/495638060/#495640086
I will now call him Morris to trigger the autistic third worlder
oh how they fear morris and krill
>>551433246no one does that
>>551433246So he was only called Morris twice in like 14 months?
/dlg/ has fallen... We needed that update two weeks ago...
>>551431587>a completely unleveled unmagical unornament amped snowball will kill someone afflicted
>have timebomb type ability like venom, static, and sticky bomb>lane is two people with an iframe
>>551435259It's important to recognize who counters you in lane and ask for a swap if possible
>>551435651no one wants to swap with me into the mina pocket lane bro
>me when I’m american and I select morris and grill as my hero
>>551428929you hope there isnt a fed drifter on the enemy team, if not, win
>>551435259rush slowing hex
>>551429949That's why you take both gun and spirit resist and become a tank
>three teammates were destroying the enemies walker>I leave to go to blue before the creep wave crashes into our walker>guy on VC starts to say my characters name before loudly growlingcalm your autistic titties
>>551437878>schoolbaguohhh
>>551437878yeah yeah whatever can you post silver and pepper already
>>551429950any character with a paige is unstoppable. shes brokens as fuck
>>551437878>leaks in the most dogshit way possible so when they finally post actual models people barely care because we've had shitty fan arts and ai repaints already
>>551437968I always make the most autistic noises I can in game.
>>551438019kys pedo
>>551438683She's colleged aged bro, its okay I can give her brat correction
>>551437878>"My name is Yoshikage Kira..."
>>551437878Fencers gonna be kino
>>551438683gay faggot
>>551437878Show her fucking face
>>551442505epstein yourself, faggot.
>>551437878>>551438273>>551442557speaking of the ai leaki guess it was pretty fucking accurate after all
>>551443083No you don't understand we need less leaks that take longer and look like shit because we need to support artists ethically stealing from Valve!
>>551443083Well yeah, they simply fed ingame screenshots to the AIIt's not like they made that with prompts or whatever
>>551443671>>551443083>pay arti-- ACKLMAO
I feel like some people working at valve were mad about the aesthetic shift from neon prime to deadlock and are trying really hard to get away with making gay and stupid looking heroes to kill the art direction.
>play hero for the challenge that i have sub 10 games in>do really well>entire rest of the team is utterly incompetent so i lose anywaysle sigh
>>551444846Yeah because these heroes were never there from the beginning (Lets ignore the cute gargle waifu who unironically believes in the power of friendship)
>>551444846>and are trying really hard to get away with making gay and stupid looking heroes to kill the art direction.Neon Prims was gay and stupid
>>551444846I'm going to guess you just hate cute girls? Because drifter, doorman, and victor fit RIGHT in
>>551445262valve realized they can't have another thing relating to space and aliens because they hate half life fans so much
>>551445262Yes that's what they want, brainlet bro. You're two steps behind mentally
>>551445114>ivy>cute>from the beginning
>>551444846smartest fucking thing they ever did
>>551446436inb4 retards fall for this
>>551446512funny thing is the ugly cunts in that image are the real neon prime heroes
Merry Christmas niggers
>>551446682For April fools they should model swap the heroes with their neon prime versions for a day
>>551446436Lmao this looks so fkin retarded
>>551446436muscleguy waiting room
>>551446436some guy drew atlas and all of valve went "yeah, this is peak" then redesigned the entire game
>>551446850Merry kikemas moshe
>>551447213>fuark bros playtesters hate our scifi slop>bro check this --- "hellboy but blue">call gaben we scrap everythingIcefraud....
>>551447213we don't know what atlas looked like and the best evidence suggests he was some kind of anthro bull
>>551448015There's a picture of him right there
>>551446436kek, the way lash was just a chad recolor>tfw no OUCH! shirt mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o86aZ5u0_M8holy based
>>551448256that's the roster from the primelock mod, which was made by fansmore than half of those are made up
>>551449490Atlas isn't made up bro he's in deadlock in the form of abrams
deadlock youtubers are boring
>>551449585Because theyre all millennials
>>551446436bro thinks hes part of the team
>>551449449>Deathy is a spiritcuckYeah im thinking metroCHADS won
>>551437878>goth necromancer schoolgirl that wears stockingsI KNEEEEEEEL
>>551449585All MOBA youtubers are boring. The only entertaining one was Tyler and he became a dad and started playing Chess or some shit.
>shiv - op>calico - op>drifter - shit>paradox - awkward>mina - goated>geist - boring>haze - perfection>yamato - kinda shit in the current meta>wraith - boring
>>551446436give me muscle guy
>>551451249i'm surprised by the fact that every calico i see goes spirit when gun calico goes hard as fuck
>>551451586spirit is easier to play and historically what she has gone
>>551446436It's funny that this roster of literally whos made by amateur modders is more interesting that shit like Concord which had half a bil poured in it (it's still not great, but it isn't as bad).
>>551390652wraith should be made more unique role-wise, right now theres too much overlap between her and haze.remake her into a team leader-gunner that leads by example: 2 is now an airblast-like burst of cards that deflects/stops/nerfs projectiles that hit it, 3 is now shaped like a firing line that wraith "places" on the ground (think holdfast lines) to make it more firing line-themed (and to slightly nerf it by requiring her and her teammates to place themselves in front of the enemies) and her 4 is now a cone AOE shooting gallery channel akin to Miss Fortune's ultimate (maybe she summons another 3 tommy guns for herself and her 2nd robo-arm and magdumps em as cards summon and launch towards the general direction shes firing towards)
if i'm building around an ability and it feels like it's doing jack shit does is the cause usually>bad itemization>poor farm/statcheck>using the ability bad>the ability just sucks ass to build into in generaltrying new characters often feels like i'm running around with a pool noodle and i don't know what area to focus on to fix that
>>551452879Wraiths biggest crime is wasting the card/poker/gambler gimmickEither rework her or she’ll have to share that aesthetic with a different hero that properly takes advantage of it
>>551432507I assume people here just face fuck 24/7 and dont reqlize you can play at a distance
i can't stop myself from buying BRS and merc mag on almost every hero
>>551452921There is only 2 types of abilities that you can "build around" those with low cd and those with high spirit scaling. Even then you buy only 2-3 enabling items and round out the build with other stuff
>>551430630i think it was someone reading Doctor Frankenstein and deciding to make a fuckboy pretty boy corpse for themselvesit was paige being horny. the forbidden satanic book she used for it later fell into billy's hands and then he dumped it at Abrams Investigations.
>>551452879If I had 25 bucks to spare I'd ask a drawfag to make a Wraith edit of this...
>>551453324true
>>551445992Yes. She's a work of art.
what pisses me off about being in shitlow is how literal apes will hound you for the kill till the ends of the Earth no matter how much of a throw it iseventually their feeding will get to them, but now you can’t have fun because they constantly int just to trade lives especially when you’re on a hero that is weak early
>>551431315how did that chad's genes resulted in such a bitch like pocket? what went wrong?
>>551454414>be drifter>ult a guy who is alone>he's 2hp from dead>some fuck comes in and kills him>+1 stacki'm not mad you're mad
>>551454556weak asian dnait's why he's such a self-loathing fag too
>>551449585all the youtubers suck but super is saving the streamer side of things
>>551454398Ivy is the coolest
>>551454414complaining about nothing are we?
>orniggersyour crimes will not be forgotten
>>551419054you forgot>rapes your weapon damage by a static %>slows you to shit>has a deceivingly big aoe that constantly regs despite you being a clear 5m out of the radius.
>>551455065im sure you find broolniggers fun invading your jungle to accomplish nothing or throw your games being underfed lategame
>>551453350YEAH BRO JUST PLAY AT A DISTANCE WITH HOW SOULS FUNCTION IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO WALK RIGHT FUCKING UP TO THEM TO PICK THEM UP HUHDUMB RITUALIST CUNT STOP TALKING
>>551452879Wraith minor rework to be more thematic:Cards now do half damageCards have different effects they cycle through:>triple damage>bullet resist shred>silence>slow>health stealCycle gets randomized on death ("deck" is reshuffled)So if you live for a long time, you can "count cards" and figure out the cycle
>6 wins in a row with frontliner yamato in high asc/low eternus lobbiesim beginning to believe bros
>>551455439l2p lmao
>>551455439if you had a brain you'd realize you can do a lot of things to secure souls rather than run at them in a straight line. ill even give you a tip: there is a mechanic called stamina that allows you to dash, try using it sometime
sneaky venator drop would have been christmas kinoah well
>551456091Don't come at me with that shit retard. The fact you have to dash forward to claim it and go in close proximity to souls is a perfect opportunity for him to bell you with ease. Pretend like it's not. Pretend like he can't just open up a door behind you and bell you with ease while you afk 40m behind your tower. Subtle samefag by the way faggot. Conveniently posted off post cooldown.
>>551455842you just rush suppressor radiant regeneration and get enduring speed healbane healing booster with maxed crimson slash and then you build gun and rape every gun carry in the game.
lol
>holliday lane partner goes full gun with glass cannon crippling headshot and lucky shot>ends the game 0/6 8k player damage yoshi please just end this dogshit ornament challenge I beg you
>>551456430ok lil bro keep dying i guess lol
>>551451586>>551452570I go green support Calico
there hasn’t been an inhouse in weeks
>>551446436Shiv and Abrams looking the exact same made me kek loudly
Zipline speed boost just doesn't work for this game. It's why deathballing has always been the key strat, as if someone is split pushing you can just speed at a million miles per hour to protect the tower.Also, the kept momentum from the zipline when you jump off is fucking gay too. It punishes making any lane moment at all. Zero effort when approaching enemies because you practically teleport right to them.
>>551458038It was doomed from the start, even ignoring made up drama. A bunch of low ranked people sweating their asses off instead of doing stupid event shit like "oops all paige".
>>551435651I never swap lanes unless someone wants to switch with me
>>551458038Are you surprised, look at the amount of people that rage when they lose and can only blame their teammates 24/7
>>551449289Nigga, you post this image every thread and I love it
>>551458409They could make a consumable that would work like the dota tp scroll, call em tickets, cant get on the zip without using one. Would prevent the stupid spam for momentum
>>551458409Thats because you dont know how to push, if you arent ACTYALLY attacking multiple objectives and forcing the enemy to split up then of cpurse theyre gonna deathball because youre begging them to.
Heya everyone its the yamato guy and I just had a weird ass match where this paradox dealth like 50k damage. He oneshot me while I was up like 6k souls with spirit res too. He might be onto something with this build.
>>551454398>Pootis
>>551458791I'm fine with its regular use, but the momentum and boost is too much.Honestly, the momentum wouldn't be a problem if the "team-gated Zipline sections" (I got brain problems and I don't know what to call me) were farther back. It's like how in lane you can kill one or both enemies, you're low or sorta low but you use the opportunity to attack the tower (as you do in a MOBA) but within 10 seconds one/both enemies get crazy momentum that goes far beyond the tower and then they rape you because they're full health and you're not. So what happens if that all you can do is hit the tower for a few moments then you have to immediately split. That isn't fun to me. I'd be okay with them giving towers more health to compensate.
>>551458929I don't think you understood what I said so either I failed to communicate effectively or you're retarded.
>>551458038low rankers spam reported everyone
>>551458431I’m nglthe no dupe autism is just so dumbPeople care too much about the win/loss
>>551457318I found those too. One on each side. I tried to kill em, but when phase 1 dies it stays in the "dying" state
>>551454556At least one Geist voiceline suggests he was adopted
>>551454556Is he canonically male or are we still tip toeing around him being a tranny?
>>551459248Killed you doing what? A full combo?
>>551462146In the VN Geist refers to pocket as a dude and his father calls him his son, so idk.
>>551462146Thinking he's anything other than a guy is mental retardation
MIIIIIIIINAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>551454556>chad's genes>is literally just joshua "warcrimes are fun" tomarMy god, he even has the ((nose))
>>551458038the patch killed everyone's interest in playing the game. i presume once the holiday season ends we'll get back to testing dl_express
>>551462146He's male but doesn't consider himself to be one, not too complicated
>>551462987tomar what would you do if you had a son that was too much into frogs
>>551462146>looks like a guy>sounds like a guy>dad calls him sonvs>Game says they, a gender neural term therefor he's trans!!! wtf do you think buddy
>play in inhouse>mongoloid ragequits because his team is losing>wow guise tryhards are killing le inhouseshey alright. and thanks
>>551463834>Game says they, a gender neural term therefor he's trans!!!And it's actually because he's the victim of an assassination attempt and is trying to stay low
>>551462146Of course hes a dude lmao
give us the 2024 map yoshi.
>>551463932>is trying to stay lowlike stay low on testosterone cause their trans?
>get 3 massive glue eating retards on my team>other team has a fed smurf thats 22-1>actually not a smurf>he has 1200 gamesNEVER FIX MATCH MAKING EVER NEVER EVER EVER NEVER!
>>551465443That's just what happens when a viscous one trick has to play one of the easy characters for the Christmas challenfe
>>551465443Imaging being this hardstuck lmao
>>551465443>two Mina's in my lane in a row that haven't even read her abilities>they don't even rake minions in lane>single digit love bite procs before 10 minsthis happened twice in a row with two different peoplethe worst games I've had all month have all happened today specifically
Leak pepper already...
>>551468574This, I need sex so bad
>>551462639RISE UP AND TAKE, WHAT YOU DESEEEEEEEEEEERVEEEEE
>>551468574im leaking inside my chastity cage for her ~
>doorman>infern>seven>shiv>victor>vis>yamViscous and Yamato are going to be pure aids because I suck at them and my teammates have been shit too. Victor is just purely cursed for me this challenge because of the enemy team being poopsockers and highly coordinated.
>>551470170Just PAWNCH people to death as Viscous
Time to ruin some more games by collecting ornaments, which hero should I try next between Mina, Mirage and Ivy?
>banging my head playing on my main climbing from phantom > ascendant 1 > ascendant 2>load up my alt to play ((one)) game to prevent the rank decay>Ranked up in just ((one)) game from ascendant 4 to 5heh... my TRUE potential
>get rejuv, win team fight and take down their patron like usual>despite still having 3, everyone is very low HP and has no ult so we retreat>mo starts sperging because he thinks we should have forced to end the game there I mean we won 2 minutes later but why are some people so retarded
>>551470537>smurfing>on christmasmiserly
>>551470463yeah like noyam and vis are just terrible and I get people on the same level as me as teammates for whatever reasonjust gonna RNG and reroll games (run it down mid and feed) until I get carried with these two
>>551470170>>551472323for visc you can go gun and spam your abilities sometimes and be fine
>>551437878fucking valorant color pallet, this game is doomed
>>551472636You dont even play valorant
Doorman, aesthetically, makes me think of Clair Stanfield aka VINO aka THE RAIL TRACER from Baccano!, the best solipsist in media. His "superpower" is essentially his own solipsism. Did anyone else think of this relatively obscure character?I would like a VINO mod for Doorman.
>>551473004that shit is pastel cartoon as fuck, same thing heredisgusting zoomer shit, looks like shit, has no lasting potential
>>551473203>I would like a VINO mod for Doorman.be the change you want to see in the world
>jeet name>jeet profile text>jeet comments on said profile>loses lane, proceeds to piss shit and cry in chat>throws game by running into enemy base and dying over and over, sells all items>he's on the opposite team next game>wins due to a 19-0-3 vindicta carrying his dumb ass and i'm the only one with knockdown, which i said to buy early on when she was already 7-0 by 10 minutesthe people who play this game deserve death
>>551473220unc is mad
>>551473572fr fr no cap finna bail outta here till unc quit valid crash out
>>551473517I genuinely dread the day when PC ownership becomes common in India
>>551430630the lore is that everything was always real, it was just that humans explained it away as superstition until it became really obvious so there's probably an equivalent of frankenstein but not actual frankenstein (the book), because it would be retarded his name is also victor. unless his creator was gay and lame like that. also mina ha existing as a clear play on mina harker would have the same effect, so there's A dracula book just not THE dracula.
>>551473220>red coat>green zombie handok
>>551473703Also why the Vatican is still a thingActs if God did happen, Jesus did perform miracles, holy relics have actual power, and demons (of the biblical variety) most likely exist
>>551473220Anon I don't play Valorant and BARELY play Deadlock, Valorant is way more colorful.You can tell Valve have a seriously tumblr influenced stable of artists (detrimentally so in many casses) working among their ranks just looking at Deadlock's character designs, especially the INITIAL character designs before they prettied up Vindicta and added Paige and Mina. But I don't blame the color palette on that nor do I find it particularly offensive or "Valorant" coded. TF2 also had a lot of muted pastels.The way Deadlock does its "muted colors" with bursts of vibrancy on key character features, like Geist's arm, Mina's umbrella, Doorman's eyes, etc. is very nice and intelligently done.unfortunately for Valve, Viper from Valorant is probably more goonable than any Deadlock character to date. They really need to add more hotties. Less fucking Mikuginnises, read the writing on the wall, no one fucking wants that shit Valve, it's not 2017. Don't go soulless Stellar Blade goon slop but the game needs continued sex injections.
>>551473220>pastelSo, no. That's really not what pastels are. At all. Nearly everyone has this color palette in the game, it's all MUTED colors, but none are pastel. If you get angry at this pedantry then consider not having such an uninformed opinion, friend :-).>cartoonEveryone looks like this, there's mild cel-shading that's been passed throughout the whole game. They're going to a more comic-book looking aesthetic.>zoomer shitProbably, but maybe instead of throwing a tantrum about it just stop playing the game then?
>>551474074>Viper from Valorant is probably more goonable than any Deadlock character to datewhat the hell are you talking about nigger this bitch is ugly as fuckOUR vyper is sexier than her and it's a recycled WIP model
>>551473703>Mina Harker>her name is Mina Ha, get it? she's Asian because of DEI, and also Emiru
>>551474225i think he's just into girls with skin tight suits and masks
>>551474016honestly its the most realistic part of the lore. religion would flourish in this, nearly every thing they've blamed on demons/witches/etc. now is literally in front of everyone. the witch trials had a basis (granted those were new england puritan-led, but still). characters say God still, so i think it's safe to assume that if God isn't real then generalized faith still is. There's a chapel on the map and stuff
>>551474074Viper is also boring as fucking sinValorant's entire aesthetic is bland as fuck and the only reason it ever got some porn is because OW artists got to put their blender skills to work
>>551474272>because of DEII'm not joking when I say that it brings me to near orgasm that this game will get more shit that makes you guys seethe but still play the game. Silver is going to buckbreak you faggots.
>>551474542really?what do you know about silver that the rest of us don't
>>551474437>>551474225stop replying to bait
>>551474771Openly trans girl boss.Honestly even if it killed the game it'd be worth it just to make the chuds mad.
>>551474542are you under the impression that Mina isn't a little piece of Asian fuckmeat coombait for probably racist gooners?
>>551474074>>551474225the only hot girl in valorant is, ironically, Deadlock
>>551470170Just go full health support for both.
>>551474074also miku IS hot
>>551475117thats a man
>>551474074we already peaked with doorman for SEXO, everything else is whatever.
>>551475310she's mid and her face structure is too distinct for sfm/blender animators to latch on to her
>>551474850>the character trying to transform from a man into a woman also transforms into a bloodthirsty beast under the moonlight>trannies are lycanthropes to own the chuds>>551475310this is exactly what was meant by tumblr influences acting to their detrimentan example of tumblr influences acting to their benefit on the contrary are Ivy and Doorman
>>551473220there isnt a single pastel in that image, zoomer derangement syndrome hit this website hard. >>551474542>>551474850models have only been un-uglified since the playtest release, at this point I doubt the werewolf character will even have anything more than a 5 second werewolf transformation ult
>>551475405THIS is what passes as a man for you? damn you must be swedish or californian/canadian
Every day I play this game, it gets harder to keep up my flawless streak of never abandoning
what can you do when you're 20k souls behind the top farmed player? other than suicide
>>551476385don't play soloyour abilities are at most 15% less effective, they're still going to let you help if you aren't gangraped
>>551472069>reading comprehensionMy main is ascendant 2 while my alt is now ascendant 5. How the fuck am I smurfing if my alt is higher rank than my main?
>>551475581>>551475886all they need to do is bring back her old hair (the new one makes her look like one of those troll toys) and release a cutscene/cinematic model where she's free of her workclothes.she's the only character that fills the niche of a bulkier-yet-not fat/reddit tomboy muscular woman we have in deadlock so far and letting it go to waste would suck.>her face structure is too distinct for sfm/blender animators to latch on to hersounds like a skill issue on the animators' behalf
>>551475581>>551476767>>551474848>she's midcould have stopped there, or said "she's disgusting and will only ever be used as a burly Zarya-esque futa in future Deadlock blender porn"could have also simply stated the other truth which is that normies do not give a single solitary fuck about Deadlock, understandably, as it hasn't even properly released yet and only had one time in the sun so far with a high barrier to entry when they released that batch back in Augustwhen it *does* get any attention the entire focus for mainstream SFM porn will be Mina, Paige, Vindicta, and going by leaks: GravesI for one cannot wait for the Mina blender porn renaissance
i think too many people are okay with openly being porn addicts these days. what do you mean you can't play this game because there's no jiggle physics? what do you mean you need a bikini mod for every female character to find it enjoyable?
>>551477330Pepper is gonna be the futa hero anywayTheyll give her a horsecock
>>551463867ragequitting is peak tryhard behaviour.
Post 'em boys. My verdict as someone who pretty much only plays 3 characters is that Holiday and Vyper are dogshit and annoying to play, Kelvin is way weaker than when I played him last (over a year ago), Warden and Victor are very powerful but kinda boring to play and Yamato (my last unlock) is annoying, but turned out to be very fun going gun.
>>551477330nigga you're talking as if the barrier to entry is gonna get lower instead of higherit's still fucking dota at heart shit ain't changing no matter how many shitty alternative gamemodes they add
>>551477589no, i also install bunny suit mods for the men, not just the women.
>>551477881>it's still fucking dota at heart shit ain't changing no matter how many shitty alternative gamemodes they addIts also a hero shooterAnd casual gane modes fit shooters way better
>>551477589I'm finna open a hentai music video discord gooning live stream right now but I don't use bikini mods or need jiggle physics.
>>551477589i only install mina mods and the lash doggirl one when im specifically jerking off
>>551410481I worked 12 hours on Christmas...
>>551478060oh, let me add however: it is fucking insane, and absolute nonsense, that they "censored" Vindicta's feetwhen I came back to the game and saw they did that I was blown awaythat is serious faggot retard shit, like peak mental illness on their part, and seeing that kind of thing done makes me want their product to failnot because "oh wtf I can't jerk off to ghost feet during the game anymore", it's not like thatit's a principle thing, and clear self-sabotage, like they really could not have people having fun either ironically or unironically with the foot fetish stuffit bodes really poorly for where exactly their heads are at
>>551478708
>>551478708>like they really could not have people having fun either ironically or unironically with the foot fetish stuffgood. it's entirely inconsequential. no one but weirdos care enough to have an opinion (negative or positive). its the best way for this game to have an immune system for a specific demographic that ultimately offers nothing worthwhile to the game or community as a whole.
>>551477853I use to play all the heroes, especially Shiv and Lash a lot back in 4 lanes. After the shop update I could not build them anymore and dropped them completely. I still feel like they kinda suck still.Gun Giest and Holliday too before the shop update, still good but not as rapey as I remember them.Sinclair surprised me, he is REALLY good if you go support rabbit and boost your team (magic missile seems like a meme).Pocket, GT and Vyper were easy as strong as hell and easy wins.Victor is STILL CURSED for me along with Vis and Yam will probably be lost for this challenge.
>>551463867tranny mentality
>>551479197>best way for this game to have an immune system for a specific demographic that ultimately offers nothing worthwhile to the game or community as a wholesorry what demographic is that?also man you have supposedly really high standards for gatekeeping a game that's clearly got a whole smorgasboard of hyper-degenerate artists working for itand which is very clearly coming from "Modern Valve" which is basically springboarding off the gayest, worst, and least gatekept era of TF2, the grubby fingerprints of "those people" are all over this game but you seemingly think they do contribute, contrary to whatever demo you're talking about initially>no one but weirdos...really laughable
bebop is the worst character in the game. change my mind.
>>551478708you should be executed by public hanging
>>551479950yes most likelyat the very least there is no reason to play him over Paradox
>>551479950his seethe causing potential is through the roof and you must consider the mental terrorism factor in a game like this
>>551479950i like playing himhis hook is really fun to fuck over the enemy team. the issue is that it's ALL he has and if you're bad with it, you're more than useless -- you're a detriment.it's also an awful thing to balance. if you make him good he's horrendously broken because of hook. if you make him awful, he's still capable of being good because of hook.
>>551477853Going at my own pace, will probably try to get at least half of them. Might try doorman and ivy next.
>>551479720>you have supposedly really high standards for gatekeeping a gameGiven that I'm not considering it an ill-omen that a character is missing detailed feet, i wouldn't say i'm the one with the high standards. gatekeeping, sure, but that's not a bad thing if done productively. >a game that's clearly got a whole smorgasboard of hyper-degenerate artists working for itmost of the seethe here is some flavor of complaining that there's a lack of le sexy grills, that X (design choice) on Y (female character) is bad because of Z (dei, woke, etc.)
>>551463932the patrons, doorman, calico, mina, dynamo all personally know who Pocket is (Arin) and still use they/them pronouns in 1 on 1 conversations with them. Citing anything from the VN is retarded since it's even more unfinished than the game. i think a lot of people get mindfucked by this because theyre used to all the nonbinary characters in current game to be women trying to be masculine and not men trying to be androgynous. this is unironically the point of representation, btw.
Is torment pulse always a must have on Victor? I'm trying to branch out what builds I use on him.
>>551482050It's a core item on him, yes. You should always have it, even if you plan on going gun or getting vitality stuff.
>>551477853I forsee many character reworks in the future of this game, I'd be surprised if the game goes into open beta with even 60% of the cast having unchanged abilities. Numbers buffs/nerfs simply aren't enough.
>>551477853Still 10 offTook me 7 games to get my Infernus because I got the absolute worst retards I've played with in ages on my teamHow the fuck does a Holiday do 10k damage in a 40 minute game holy shit
when comparing items that reduce bullet resistance, increase bullet damage by a percentage, or increase your firerate how do you decide which is best for your character? aren't they all just fundamentally doing the same sort of thing? am i just supposed to pick a variety or is building fully into firerate the move?
>>551417132you were supposed to beg for a swap lil nigga
>>551482552it depends on your character
How many snowball kills you lads have?I almost got 4 last night with Paige and Geist. Got 2 today on Victor on the same Billy.
>>551417132You buy rusted barrel and spam it on the Mina. Also buy monster rounds (wave clear, diving). If you have an aggressive lane partner you can bully the shit out of em. Rusted barrel -> walk up on them -> scorn -> melee -> they try to shoot back sand blast' em. You don't win by being pussy with Mo..
>lose connection once>every fight after becomes a slideshowyoshi pls
for how crappy bebop's bombs are and how hard to plant they are, there sure are a hundred ways to completely avoid the damage, huh? may as well remove his 1 and 2, just make him entirely about hooking if that's valve's plan for him.
between this and the carpenter brut reference on that one building valve is proving they have good music taste
Down dashing on someone should do damage
>>551486625i don't understand what the fuck they want from himhe's dogshit outside of his hook which can completely make or break games
>>551487082desu this probably turns into an item at some point
Your local Rat has done it
>>551475581I like her because she kind of fits an archetype I've never seen anywhere. Some kind of female ugly bastard.>Completly immoral death engineer jobwise>Completly stunted social skills because workaholics>Sexually pent up for same reason>Strong because she auticticly insists on doing practical research with heavy machinery>Propably forced to shower daily on company mandate so she wouldn't smell THAT bad>Is most essential asset of Fairfax company so she will get away with literally anythingShe's made to creep on fresh-off the university engineering graduates who are purposely fed to her departments as interns (mostly because being allowed to indulge her sexual sadism makes her especially inspired).
Vindicta should only have one sniper charge
Vindicta should have infinite sniper charges
Vindicta should be my wife
>>551482034a slightly girly/twink looking guy does not make him trans you know
>>551488636>ywn be the meek college intern that constantly gets sexually harassed and groped by mcginniswhy live
i want to play dl_express again but people are either too retarded to install it or they have counter strike syndrome and refuse to learn another map. the maps already gotten updates and it would plays so much better.
someone post the bbw vindicta
>>551431587his dad made a shotgun that fires like 8 shells simultaneously, he made sure he could finish the aids victims
>>551470537>having a smurf with 700 gamesyou are both gay and retarded kek
>go 1 max, Essence Nuke Geist>every fight won because I'm blowing up HP bars from behind buildings>get Spirit Burn: "Kobe!"God, I love this GILF
>>551488524How many snowball kills?
how long do we have to get the ornaments?
>>551479950I know, its great
who would I enjoy as a third que if I like shiv and pocket
>>551492102lash viscous calico
>>551482050victor is a character that stands in the middle of a ton of people, passively doing damage for as long as possible, a character more suited for torment pulse will never exist in deadlock
does tesla proc mystic regen
>>551493760why do you ask, are you trying to find out exactly how retarded metro is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o86aZ5u0_M8truening?
>Mina is still one of the highest pickrate heroeslmao saved the game desu
>>551431315>>551454556I like that if you going on a killstreak as pocket he starts to talk more like a villian and less >sorry I had to do this....
>only ornaments left are all the annoying m1 niggerfaggot heroessigh
i just had a mirage's ult make me unstoppable and stop dynamo and his entire team from raping my ass as victor and win the game cause of thati don't think anybody besides me realized what the fuck even happened until after the fact. seriously why the fuck is mirage such a clusterfuck of abilities slapped together?
holy fuck yama is soooo terrible to play
>Be a good boi and stop rage quitting for a full month>5 minute blackout happens during a match>Banned for 24 hours>2 wins requiered in low priority queueOh my god Yoshi...
>>551494482Bis scarabs are the weirdest part of his kit honestly
>>551494656>thinks not acting like a nigger for a month is an accomplishment
>>5514946562 wins is nothing to a God Gamer such as myself
>dog shit victor goes 2/12>30 minutes comes around>he's literally undefeatable>three people curse him, he just backs up into team >four people have healbane>he heals through the damage + deals over 100k himselfvictor needs to be fucking deleted holy SHIT
>>551494656Low prio should force you into a regular match as a support cuck that locks any carry items
who's the weakest powerlevel wise canonically?billy?lash?
>>551494482>>551494674I still don't fully know what the fuck they do. I know they "steal max HP" but does that even scale? They have basically no feedback on hit and I'm not sure if there's even an indicator of what they're doing.
>>551495976Shiv is literally just a dude, same with Gray Talon. Though I guess that still applies to both Lash and Billy.
>>551495976>>551496127You are now both clinically retarded, the correct answer was Krill
What item could be added or removed to increase build diversity and unique gameplay expression in Deadlock? As of right now, it seems most heroes only really have one or two "meta" picks and they don't vary much game by game.
>>551496881Add in the great club from dark souls, I like that weapon, or the halo reach grenade launcher.
>>551496881I dont know they actually want to do this considering what a nightmare my favorite item(majestic leap) has been to balance, but something like that would need to be made, completely flips how the game is played and makes certain characters function
>Lash being a faggot and running away with 20hp>Door across the map and get behind him>Snowball him in the back of the headHoly fuck I forgot how fun this ginger is. He feels weak as hell now, idk if its because I haven't played him in 2-3 months but doors are still so much fun.
>play pocket>someone's half hp>teleport cloak hits them>briefcase>arctic >they're deadthis hero is silly
>>551479950doesnt matter. 1 hook wins the game
>>551495976i don't really buy that vyper could hang with the cast, IMO being in prison doesn't indicate you're tough it just indicates you're fucking retarded
>>5514994091 anything can win a game, ya fool.
>>551499743nope
how is gun pocket, is that a thing?
>>551495976Holliday. She has nothing powerful of her own. She uses contraptions and a gun.
>>551500115he has the third highest gun dps (at max level) on top of 2 abilities that can directly increased his m1 damage.Too bad he is way too fucking squishy.
>>551499061if you briefcase before teleporting the aoe goes off at the coats position instantly
>>551500115>>551500419dedicated gun pocket feels like a waste compared to a hybrid build given how strong 4.8k investments are
is it people refusing to counter or do anything about her or does Haze just run away with every other game?even in games where they're losing Haze feels like the one thing keeping their team in the game
if you're about to die as vindict and theres 2 dudesdo you go for the assassinate or not because you'll immediately drop 800 souls, but you'll take one down with you
>>551479950not if you play him like a terrorist
>>551487023>and the carpenter brut reference on that one buildingwhich building?
>>551501085>osama beboppin
>>551500676die with less souls and two enemies remaining alive or die with slightly more souls and only one remaining enemy alive hmm very interesting and thought provoking dilemma
>>551500185I agree with this because she's my last remaining orb and she feels atrocious to play>Barrels don't do damage>Gun doesn't do damage (even with headshots)>2 seems only good for escaping people
>>551501405yeah but you just fed someone an entire t3 camp
>>551501198
Fucking useless leakcucks still wont shit out pepper and silver
>>551501651the answer is it depends on the game state, team fighting, mid boss up, what time the game is, is urn up, etc.
>>551500676do it and pray a teammate steals the bag back
>>551432623>you should be earning around 2k per minIs this true? I thought 1k per min was standard but do you guys make 2k per min? How tf do you get that many souls
>he doesn't earn 4000 souls per minutebecome snipepilled.
>>551505584i can't aim that's why I play dynamo, you're welcome for the black hole btw you bong ghost BITCH
>echo shard pocket barrage doesn't let you have 80% damage ampwhy not
>Be a complete shitter as Pocket>Kinda got ragdolled in lane so I farmed up a bit>Land affliction in teamfights then just kinda fuck off to wait for cooldowns>Win
>>551506354you figured out pocket, his damage at stat screen is basically fake
Le blue ghost sniper bitch that's hard countered by half the heroes and a couple of items
>>551507115and yet her hitscan kirkinator money printer still makes her a permaban against bunny with clock in the night shifts
>eceleb cocksucker replied to meeww
>>551507115Le blue ghost sniper bitch of buying green item debuff remover and doing fuckloads of purple damage from far off in the grey distance while demanding inordinate levels of retaliation from your brown team to put a red respawn number beneath her portrait
>>551507394but sir what about second knockdown?
>>551507456>she spent 3k on one green>your team spent 6k on two itemsShe already won that trade even if you kill her like three times with that combo
>>551507576Omg 6k on two items to permanent remove a hero from the match
>>551507576You can use knockdown on other heroes too
>>551507651>implying you'll actually have the co-ordination to do it properly multiple times>implying she won't have already killed someone with the 3 - 5 seconds she bought herself by pressing debuff remover already>implying she couldn't just back out anyway before second knockdown hitsSorry anon, I just don't actually believe you when you say you 'removed' anything...
>>551507456>>551507576oi why not buy knockdown at that point?
>>551507801Id rather buy knockdown honestly, don't know why it hasn't been mentioned yet
>>551507801>>551507905oops i meant phantom strike lol
>>551507963I guess that's cool too, but for me, it's knockdown.
How do I explain to an infernus player that urn or walker is better than a medium camp?
>>551508076point out that the urn has a really big number above it and remind him that it's like 10x more than a medium camp.don't tell him it's shared throughout the team though, he doesn't need to hear that part because it won't convince him
>>5515077752nd knockdown will force her to cancel flightthen she does no damage
>friend hops on alt account to "play other characters">get put into oracle 5 game since his alt is so shitlow>bored out of my mind in this low elo game on Kelvin>Think it would be mad fucking funny to coinflip mid at 20 minutes while we are down a person>lose the fight>somehow, after they got all 3 rejuvs. we just kill them in the next team fight, take all of their rejuvs without anyone on our team dying>this repeats AGAIN after another failed coinflip>later, they are now doing mid themselves>just walk in, kill all of them and steal it>win the game>>>>people are actually hard stuck in oracle
>>551509391OH NOT MY RANK NOT MY PRECIOUS JPEG I simply must create a steam account to protect my heckin Ritualist 2 rank
>>551509615I agree, it's really fucking cringe.he made the alt account because, and I quote,>the ranks move too slowly, you'll play like 15 games and be the same rankso he spends like 5 dollars every two weeks to have a more volatile rank.it's very faggoty and I make fun of him all the time for it.
Alright how do you play Sinclair? I do literally no damage with him, his magic missile, or his ult copies. Also I get killed instantly if I actually try to use my ults
>>551510413be an autistic societal reject.i'm fucking serious, nobody can play this guy but those people.
>>551510413your ults have the same scaling as theirs, you just have to build some spirit. except for haze lol without fixation it does nothing.boundless, cdr, range, duration + greens is your meal ticket>>551510518god forbid a skillshot be hard to aim
>>551510557the skillshot isn't what makes him for autistic losersyou HAVE to be an autistic reject if you>see this entire roster of cool characters and fun kits>pick the unfinished mannequin with a faggot lisp and unfunny wife>generic as shit magician outfit>incoherent kit and choose him out of all people to play.
>>551470537>alt account>with 700 gamesgenuinely what the fuck are you people doing
>>551509985He's not wrong. Thats the issue with elo, its fucking boring as shit. Just make it like LoL back in the days. 5 wins to go up a divison, best of 3 to gain the division rank
>>551510413rush imp spirit + rapid recharge on every hero that uses charged abilities to do damage
>>551511880as Funke once said>deadlock is for the unemployed >>551512153he can be right about rank being too slow to progress/drop but still be a degenerate for shitting on people below his rank for weeks just to end up right back to his same rank on his main on a different account.
>>551509391oracle is a mixed bag of people that should be 2 full ranks below and people that should be 2 full ranks above
I'm a man of simple pleasuresI like to pick the cute gargoyleAnd I like it when I have the green award for most healingLet you guess, I need more?
>>551512215Yeah but blaming him for something thats structurally a problem is kinda fruitless. Valve should take the feedback but they wont, they already have this same system in CS and Dota and both those games have tons of smurfs aswell
Should this UI be officially implemented in the game? We would lose the skill of "remembering when the fuck things happen" but is that really a big loss
>>551513310I think showcasing boon level is redundant. Midboss timer is good because it's modular, there's no reason to hide it from the players.I think the game should also tell you the state of the urn so that you don't have to do maths for it.
>>551510413All rabbit and melee, trust me. Use your assistant to TP and never die. Spam ULTs. GG.
>spectating a doorman>he ults a mina >sinclair ults him a moment after>it turns into a full-on brawl in the baroness when they both realize each other's thereI wish I'd caught a better screenshot lmao
>>551477727You're right but the people ragequitting inhouses think everyone else is the tryhard that cares too much about winningWhile they are the ones throwing tantrums and ragequitting because they aren't winningYou should now be seeing how the inhouses died.
>>551513310Noobs need less ui not more, but it would be a nice toggle in the settings
>>551514817>Noobs need less ui not morethis has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever read in my entire life.
>9 losses in a row on Shivthis event has caused me to drop from phantom 5 to oracle 4, and my sanity is at an all-time low
>>551514774Oh I was agreeing with you, anon.
>>551515750Shiv is like arguably the strongest hero in game alongside billy, you just suck bro.
>>551515750>losing on fucking shiv>IN FUCKING PHANTOMyou have got to be culled
>>551516016Shiv without rage is not a character past lane but Shiv with rage is fucking unstoppable.
>>551514895Its true, common noob complaint is overstimulation. It needs to be cleaner and simpler for the first time experience, can gradually increase complexity
>>551496881>it seems most heroes only really have one or two "meta" picks and they don't vary much game by game.this feels like it could happen with a bunch of heroes already but the dev team actively pushes against the idea of heroes having multiple viable builds
>>551509391>smurf (with your duo) and handed a lobby with people who aren't as good as you>they have zero chance and lose>"lmao this so easy why are people hardstuck at lower ranks?"subhuman behavior btw
>>551517668when I am quite literally throwing the game on purpose for laughs on fucking Kelvin while that retard is on Mo and you still can't win?Yeah, I am genuinely concerned how you're still stuck in that elo.
did you know that near the yellow walker on the blue side, theres a surprisingly well detailed bank? i had no idea
>>551519338of course bro where do you think those farming wraiths find those extra 10k souls? they rob the bank
>>551519401I would have thought that would be the domain of infernoids
>>551519338ever since they updated the map i think ive only been to this area like twice
>>551519595he is gainfully employed. fucking ixianphobe get the fuck out of my city
>>551519595blackness doesn't discriminate by gender
>>551519595Wraith is literally a mob boss and Infernus was some random punk, you fucking retard.
I want a character that gets 9 seconds of invincibility once they die then dyingbut that's a bit repetitive now that we've got victor
>>551519595holy shit how retarded are you?
>>551519819>I want a character that gets 9 seconds of invincibility once they die then dyingI want you to kill yourself, but we all can't get what we want.
>>551519819cheat death
>>551520237yeah like how calico ult is super eshift and yam ult is super unstoppable
How do you play vindicta. We lost lane but I was 3-0 but everyone on my team was getting ass raped and I was stuck on solo blue lane duty and we never got a guardian the whole game then they were flaming each other saying someone was super low rank and queue took a long time but they were all 0-7 or 1-6. Every game so far i feel like i have no impact and we get crushed. I thought she was a backliner pick character but idk.Sick of the faggots
Deadlock is solved
>>551520827it is impossible to lose lane as vindicta.use the Aidan build.
>>551519338There is also a well detailed big room close to the base upstairs
>>551519338yeah there is an area behind the opposite side Walker toothere just isn't much of a reason to go back there, iirc there used to be a neutral camp in that corner before the map got reworked
>>551520827Shes a support. Supposed to get rescue beam and shred
is it just me or is headshot booster just better than resto shot in every situation
HIIII ORNIGGER
My team are a bunch of MO-RONS!
>21301tired of this retard, into the filter it goes.
I wish they would have excluded some heroes from ornaments. As it is, there is a random chance that you get an ornament Holiday or Sinclair on your team and have to 5v6.
>>551521234Resto is garbage and headshot is mid. Besides monster rounds all the orange t1 are skip teir 2bh
>>551521564plinking an enemy for 50 damage every 10 seconds adds up in lane and it doesn't have any "oh damn it i missed" like resto does
>551522097>50do you retards even play or are you just illiterate?i can't tell which is worse.no, headshot booster is shit. it has been shit for a while.
>kill billy in lane 4 times through parries>understand what a massive fucking retard he is>he goes on to go 14-6 because the rest of my team is just rigged to force a loss
I think free ammo on sliding is a very stupid mechanic and should not be a thing.
How do you deal with Vindicta? Unless I'm playing a spirit burst hero, I just can't lane against her when she's too far away to shoot at or harass.
>>551523964I think it's a very good way to have people use their environment and stamina (so they don't just hoard it).you're a retard.
>>551523964Its a bit overrated imo, I always see some retard buy no +ammo "because of sliding" then proceed to play reload simulator
>>551524107If you can just make knockdown part of your spirit 4.8k rush, otherwise its pretty rough
>>551524438At my rank? Can't, it's very, very rare to match against a Vind that doesn't get Debuff Remover.
>>551521112wish they added something like an event that is like "oh the enemy team is robbing the bank stop them!!!!"
>>551519338yeah it's breddy cool. no one else goes there either so i've shaken people chasing me by actually remembering it exists
you ever shit a fiberous solid one and it was holding back a chili bowl? that's what playing ivy feels like now if i have to play position 1 or 2 as herother than viscous, what are some other versitile heroes to be the carry, support, or sniper/engage/assassin/whatever
>>551524545She wont get debuff before her 4.8k purp tho, if you get it early you have a small window where you can stop her
>>551524993rescue beam vindictafull duration ultbot drifter/vyper
Vindicta ornament DOWNBattle of the snoipahs WON
>>551524107she's a "fuck you I win lane" character like mina
>>551526403>don't feed>keep the troopers off your guardian>knockdownit's that easy
>>551526486the moment she hits 3.6k her snipes are dealing like 500 damage a shotare you seriously rushing knockdown first item?
>>551524993Dynamo is pretty versatile
>>551526716he's a shitlow pig, just ignore him.
>>551526486Resto locket it also a decent counter. She has the lowest cds in the game and the moment you hear her ult you can pop it to be over 50% and disable the crit dmg
>>551526880>lowest CDs dude her 123 all have over 30 second cooldowns
>>551526880>Resto locket>Decent at fucking ANYTHING>>>>>>>Vind has the lowest CDs
>>551527029>>551527127She does, if you add up the cds of 1,2, 3,4 for each character she has the lowest in the gameI did it like a month ago
>>551527358she is not going to be blasting all 4 of her rapid recharge ult shots unless she is either immensely dogshit or you are in massive massive trouble
>>551527756She should, it is the lowest ult cd so she should be pretty liberal with its usage
>>551519338I wonder what the point of some of these more detailed unique areas will be
>>551528382They're making assets so people have more stuff in hammer later to add to their maps
>>551527358>>551528126niggas will "math" this shit out and still be hard stuck fucking ritualist.you're wrong, retard.
>>551529819I'm hardstuck ritualist because I refuse to make a smurfYou're hardstuck ascendant because you made a smurfWe are not the same
>>551529819Ad hom, I accept your concession
>>551519338>area so detailed the words are flipped backwards
>>551529982you're unironically ritualist lil guppy if that's how you look at CDs.nobody is firing off shit off CD the frame it's active, you dumbshit spreadsheet non game playing RETARD.you're alchemist.you will always be alchemist.the only cure is suicide.
>>551530052why are you so mad bro, it's not worth working yourself up over someone being dumb this much
>>551530052t. The nigger that holds the dynamo ult for 40 minutes because you refuse to slap the Free Money button
>>551530052t. Seething vibes builder>>551530225Not an arguement, I accept your concession as well
Me when silver releases.
>>551530225shitlow Dunning Kruger pigs genuinely should have their tongues cut out for trying to speak about meta or strats while they are in the bottom 20% of the player base building resto locket and gaslighting themselves into thinking it's1. not a dogshit pick into vind who out ranges it2. says vind has "low cds" when she has some of the longest CDs in lane with no charges.
>>551524107I don't get how Vindictas are oppressive in lane. Any time I try her I'm shooting marshmallows unless the oppressive ones are all cheating. I get damaged more as Vindicta. I honestly don't understand.
>>551530415>t. Seething vibes buildersee >>551529982>>551530413>Moneylow elo tourist troon.
>>551523964You are correct>>551524137You are a fag and should kill yourself
>>551530517I wouldn't say oppressive but for a large amount of the cast there is little counterplay. What the fuck is a Billy/Mo/Abrams/Shiv supposed to do when you can just fly and shoot them in the face?
>>551530507>out ranges itNta but resto has a huge range
>>551530628>low elo tourist troonWhat are you even saying, man.
>>551530517
>>551530517>I don't get how Vindictas are oppressive in lanetry getting out of ritualist first and play against people who have a pulse and a functioning monitor.
>>551530517>first item knockdown
>>551496881The redpill is that we need less item slots and items to be more immediately impactful instead of incremental.Remove all diminishing returns and hard caps too.
>>551530867>not phantom strikecuck
>>551530867>shoots you with 3.6k ult before you even hit 3.2k because you didn't spend any souls
>>551528720yeah this is actually a good pointby the time the deadlock map and its jungle is fully finalized custom mappers will have an asston of assets and shit to fuck around with
>>551530517>I don't get how Vindictas are oppressive in lane.In Phantom/Ascendant rank, I can't even tell if people are just that good at aiming or cheating. The best strategy I have right now against her is if my lane comp is bad against her then I just wait out her flight and try to harass her and then hard push the wave to their side since she doesn't have AoE abilities to clear them. like what am I supposed to do against her when I'm playing as Billy/Abrams other than just pray to God that she's bad at aiming.
>>551519338i know they won't but they should really give the map more interactivity besides aestheticsgive the bank a shitton of souls you can steal from, but maybe have some sort of security ghost system that will haunt your ass if you try or have an alarm go off to alert nearby enemies. have the comedy club have a standup guy that will have your character stunned in laughter for a couple of seconds. have ANY enviromental hazards or if I might even be so bold instant kills just for the fun of it.I know they won't do it because MUH COMPETITIVE ESPORT BALANCE shit but god damn they could have so much fun with it
>>551530474shelved unfortunately
>>551509391This is the person the ragequits inhouses?
>>551533000no, i'm not a fucking loser so I don't play in the inhouses.
>>551533101Anon, he's talking about your friend.
>>551533465he doesn't visit 4chan, so the post still applies.
I love having busted shit like Victor on my team just so I can build my giantess Mina in peace and still win
how come cdr works on djinns mark but not love bites
>>551532551the soul jar is a heist already though
>>551536356Because attack speed works on love bites
>>551536356bros why can mirage teleport with his 4 but mina can't wtf
>unironically vindicta downplayers in threadI know everyone left dlg already but this is low
>>551496881>removed to increase build diversityfleetfootas far as i'm aware there is zero reason to not pick it up on a gun buildeven in general movespeed is just a god stat
>>551530517its her stake,if she has a lane partner with and decent damage and she isnt brain dead she will stake you and your gonna get popped. Once she hits 6 her entire purpose is stake + ult and then she is going to be up 1k souls and can buy any item she want. That said, once the laning phase ends she is hot garbage and only exists to confirm kills and damage walkers
>>551510557>except for haze lol without fixation it does nothing.similar situation with mina where you won't apply love bites but the silence can still be valuable
does a copied mirage teleport work with assistant the way i think it does?
>teammates keep flaming me for doing the objective and farming instead of joining their retarded fights that achieve nothingI'm going to go out of my way to spite these people. Who are the best characters to afk farm and rat objectives?
>>551538865Fleetfoot is bait
>>551540484mcginnis lol
>>551540484wraithher entire kit is forfarmingtaking walkersmelting someone in a 1v1and running away really fast
>>551540484To truly spite them its better to afk farm with a brooler
>>551537401Not really, soul jar is more of a courier delivery than an actual heist objective. You're paid fo a job upon completion and the enemy has to stop you. A bank heist objective would have a bunch of souls delivered instantly upon the ones doing it as fast as they can grab it, with some alert or enviromental hazards that a player would need to overcome to get it. Could be anything from just ghost NPCs targetting the player trying to steal the vault to a LOUD alarm that goes through the entire map basically saying "THIS RETARD IS GETTING FREE MONEY JUMP HIS ASS!!!" to a baroness like room you gotta get out of or be locked inside for a long time or just a fucking debuff that amplifies damage you take for a while after getting the bounty. Any of those would be super fun imo, a lot more than just going around the map killing health bars and breaking boxes in between.The reason I do not believe valve will ever implement such things is because there aren't any in dota. Dota's map outside of objectives is just fucking BORING. no enviromental hazards, creeps barely do a thing despite countless reworks, the most interesting locations are just tp spots and 2 pits in the middle of the river. There's nothing even as simple as say, the saws from that one mill map in TF2. Every NPC is a static wall of hp and I genuinely think this is by design rather than because they're WIPs.
>>551491273None. I could try playing Pocket and hitting them with affliction to try.
>>551496881wall running itemwall grappler itemhook item ala titanfall (this might actually be too much though and it'll look wonky as shit unless you REALLY work on it)item that creates a wall of veil upon castmake invisibility items actually useful for stealth rather than the dogshit statboosters they currently areitem that's a soul minigun that has some of the best DPS in the game
>>551528720you are pretty retarded if you actually think this
>>551541112I think they recognize the modding and custom game scene of this game will be huge
>>551519338i really wish you could utilize the nooks and crannies in this room, like that "shelf" above the vault or the gated off portion (available via walljumping) for juking motherfuckers.
>>551540785>Could be anything from just ghost NPCs targetting the player trying to steal the vault to a LOUD alarm that goes through the entire map basically saying "THIS RETARD IS GETTING FREE MONEY JUMP HIS ASS!!!"my first thought is a bottomless sinner's sacrifice or two around the map but it reveals you on the map when you use it
>>551539654Yes.
>maxed point blank snowball does around 80 damage>with pocket amp it's actually pretty threatening time to incorporate this into the majestic leap combo
>>551542123see we need more stuff like that, it'd be really cool even if hard to balance. i mean really at this point who the fuck cares about balance? game's a shitshow in that regard either way. just make it FUN
>>551542291i keep seeing ~streamers~ toss it out with abilities since it does a decent amount of damage early lmao
https://x.com/Krenbot_/status/2004369995485286700the homosexuals want to sex the goatman
>>551542520i don't mind environmental elements being HP walls, since i think the real point is to fight other players over who gets to reap their benefits, but i'd like more of them to give rewards other than just souls. more stuff like bridge buffs or sinners giving idol buffs or midboss giving revives
>>551542902its comicaql hwo all the furries and homos make billy out to be some sorta punk badass as if being a pussy ass nigga wasnt his entire point
They should make it so all the heroes that are really tough guys like doorman, drifter, seven, and mirage, are deathly afraid of Mo for unspecified reasons that even Krill isn't aware of.
>>551540484>teammates keep flaming me for doing the objective and farming instead of joining their retarded fights that achieve nothingI'm genuinely convinced these retards have Overwatch brain, they'll start teamfights on lanes without walkers then flame you if you're the one who has to be lane janny
>>551544860>I fear no man>but that morris>it scares me
>>551546846Uh im pretty sure its mortimer...
>>551546947It's Mohammed
>>551547025Mo its short for Guillermo, obviously
>>551543137See I just disagree with this. They don't have to be HARD to fight but anything that might be more engaging that just these stupid 8ball looking chuds would be cool. Titanfall just had a bunch of goons roaming the map doing basically fuckall but damn if that didn't already make them feel better and actually alive when compared to these dumb things. I'd honestly rather there'd be more of them but with less HP if they're just gonna make them static, at least 5 minutes of every single match will be spent doing nothing but shooting at them while standing still. It's fine to have some objectives like that to wind down but there's currently no other options if you wanna farm but are bored to tears by the current jungle, midboss being the worst offender of this.
>>551547286Roaming is better than nothing, but what really sells the "living world" for me is when they interact with each other. In some mmos the npc wolves will kill the npc chickens and this stuff tho simple is just greatIts probably too late for jungle suggestions(I think they are in progress already) but maybe they could do a gang/faction type split where they move around a bit and fight when paths cross. They could even do a gun/vit/spirit trinity thing so different heros/builds would prefer to farm different jungle creep.
anyone notice a lot more leavers the past two days? someone leaves at least a third of my games
>>551548154>the npc wolves will kill the npc chickens and this stuff tho simple is just greatsovl. i've said it before but the npcs in this game are so boring you honestly could just exchange the midboss for a l4d tank with buffed stats and it'd be a LOT funner to fight against. it'd also make the midboss spot a lot more of a gamble to try and lose enemies in, too
>>551509391i always think i'm a shitter until i get put on a low elo lobby and just dumpster the shit out of everyone and win on my own 1v11
>>551548154>>551547286i was gonna say have some camps that'll push lane for you when you defeat them but then i realized that's heroes of the stormthen again we already added regen globes so why not add merc camps too
>multiple pauses every gameFUCKING STOP
>>551532765>Icefraud>shelving free r34 hmofa smutWe haven't forgotten Hoodwink.
>>551549156if silver was a blonde dog anthro girl that just became a super strong dog anthro girl it would be a 10/10 design and sell bazillions
>heroes I like>win very fast or an enemy leaves and i get a free ornamentI didn't even get to play doorman or calico...
>>551549156why does reality have to be so gay
>>551549156I mean wasn't she teased in the christmas update? I find it very unlikely that they aren't doing a 6 hero release. Fits too well
>>551548154Cont.What i meant by the trinity is the soft rock paper scissors we see among the item categories The spirit creeps would nuke(flat damage so you need green stacked to kill) and have long cooldown, maybe some self damage so they will kill themselves if you can tank it. The gun creep would be have high damage over time(% of hp) and negative spirit resist. The vit creep would be resilient to spirit damage whether through hp or resist and have -bullet resist. It doesnt have to be overly strong but just a little incentive to optimize Their placement in the jungle would have to be based off lanes i think(three types for three lanes). To me what makes the most sense is vit in safe lane(the short one), gun in the long lane, and vit in middle lane. Reason being is under this setup would juxtapose the heros/builds they would be weak against preffered lane.They could path crossing mid river, in between mid and the sidelanes(this would allow each type to interact with the other). The only thing that worries me about this setup is maybe it makes the lane matchup meta too stale as it could be that people optimize for the jungle and you have the same heros showing up in the same lanes, might not be terrible but what novelty is gained through the jungle could be lost to a more stagnant matchup meta
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>unc rant
When will Valve add a pair of heroes that are blood siblings?
>>551507115>Blue whore sees me from a mile away while I'm at half health>Gets to miss 3 sniper shots and still get another one to Kirk me withValve continues to not learn how to make a sniper that's fun to play against
>>551551037Yamato is already a thing mate, read her lore
>>551551037paige and billy (real)
>>551551317How could you not get to safety with all that spare time? There's cover everywhere, especially if she's a mile away
>>551551037Mo and Krill
>>551551553>There's cover everywhereEven ignoring her hook, the map doesn't have nearly enough cover to avoid a flying target like that, especially with how generous the hitbox on her snipe is. 9/10 when I get hit with it, it was over a foot away from me.
>child melty
>>551549156>hmofayou're still a furtranny btw.
>>551551915>>551550919malding
>>551552517You're a dingus
If Bebop had a female voice there would be people here saying she's hot.
>>551549104The amount of people that pause immediately after the game starts, don't swap around at all, and then pause after the first ends. Why. Why do that. What does it do.
>>551558120well, I wouldn't exactly call them people, but yeah
>>551558702I'm fairly certain most early game pauses are for completely vapid and selfish reasons and shitters would rather make 11 people sit through a pause rather than cancel their queue
>>551558702it's come to a point i just pause to be a dickhead nowoh the game's started and nobody's paused? WHOOPS SORRY I GOTTA FINISH MY GOON SESH THAT I STARTED BEFORE HITTING QUEUE THANKS FOR MAKING THIS DOGSHIT SYSTEM ICEFROG!!
>>551559665stop that
>>551558702>start hearing water>queue up game>water starts boiling by the time im on the line 9/10 times (3-4 minute queue)>pause>grab tea bag, pour the water, usually takes 30 sec since kitchen is next to my room
>>551560003Pausing for tea is somehow worse than dude weed pauses
>>551529882that is some insane cope but I respect it
>>551561791Thats just how valve mm worksMy original csgo account was hard stuck mg and needed literally 20+wins in a row to rank up. I also had 2 alt accounts supreme and global with 1/10th the games on them
The game needs an outer rim of the map covered with jungle like in dota.
bombmaxxing paradox is so fun, i wish she didn't scale off spirit so poorly
>>551561516Its very based actually. Im based. BaZed you might even say
Is the game compensating for low player counts by making me fight people 6x my rank
>>551560003>>551561516just have a small electric kettle on your desk like how i do (yes, i have to place it on the floor when im heating water in it).
>>551559434>>551560003case in point, these niggers would rather waste 11 people's time than spend 3 extra minutes in their queue
>>551563886you're going to burn yourself doing that, bud
>>551563953i appreciate you not calling me a nigger for pausing to finish my goon sesh
>>551487023im a tard i dont get the lasso reference>>551501659when are they adding Turbo Killer into the game
>>551562751>bombmaxxing paradox is so funboring*
>>551564352maybe im reaching a bit but it looks like jamiroquai's logo from the 90s
>>551565332ebin comeback take my gold
I'm stuck in low priority queue and can't get out, how do I carry games to win?
>>551438683>College Age Student>PedoZOOM ZOOM
>go 7/0 first 10 minutes>enemy wraith 0/3/0 ragequits>rest of team follows of course>13 minute wingame sucks
>>551567150there are just a lot of leavers the past couple of dayssome combination of ornaments and days off is bringing out the worst
>>551566462play warden, collect wins
>Paradox in my lane goes 0/4>Russian Abrams builds full spirit and screams in his mic>Can't solo farm as the sole carry so we just loseI know I shouldn't be tilted but holy shit is victor bad if you can't afk farm.
Why is it that enemies get to Majestic Leap away after getting hit a million times? Make it make fucking sense.
>>551566462VictorIf you're low rank, Drifter
radiant regen paigethoughts?
>enemy victor has only 10% spirit resist>shoot him with four charged shots>barely take out half of his hp of only one of his lives >healbane and spirit burn wouldn't matter either because of his meme healman no wonder why gt has the lowest fucking winrate. Very little reward for landing all your shots, and victor is a nigger
>two matches where my teammates have double digit deaths before min 30alright yoshit, I’ll stop playing your game until january
>>551568105maybe its because there are 15k people across all regions and the only people remaining are retarded autists
>>551568634Not really gonna be hitting a lot of spirit damage on people. Speed and initial HP boost is ok I guess. But like, what would you even need it for?
>>551550338>>551550431Made image for better explain
Alrighty, bros. Goal for this weekend is to climb back to purple, and maybe see if I can break into Oracle. My shit got tanked because of this Christmas event, but I'm going on win streaks again.
Got excited to play the game but got the flu so I was watching tutorials on the game and shit since I can't really play rn.I saw that one of the people whose tutorials i was watching, Metro, was streaming on YouTube and tuned in and holy shit. What a miserable little fuck lmao I guess he's some europoor visiting the states and playing here in NA but all he did was get mad that his team mates couldn't read his mind and talk shit about how the players weren't like they are in EU. Like DSP or Wings of Redemption levels of stream commentary. What a whiplash from the videos to opening the stream.
>>551570804Hes pretty much the worst first experience of deadlock, negatively showcasing the game. Vegas is a close second, they're both whining little bitches I have no idea how people watch them.
>>551570804Every hypercarry player develops that kind of mentality. Like Kassadin players in League.
>shiv>escalating exposure>2 knives>decay>does literally 2700 damageWhat the fuck? There was literally no other interaction.
vindicta fucking sucks to play, jesus christ. this gay ornament challenge isn't worth playing that shit twice
>>551571720>t. cant ult snipe
>>551438683im trans btw
>>551566462I dont have any advice, but I did come here to laugh at you
>>551570998lol I can believe that. Won't be watching his streams anymore but his basic tutorials and YouTube shit didn't seem so bad, even if he is a whiny little cuck when he's streaming. I did watch some Vegas as well and he's not particularly fun to watch either for the same reason you mention. Not sure who to really watch >>551571072gotcha
>>551572156your waifu is a headache to play, sorry you had to find out like this
>>551571720>>551572956do gun build vindicta, melt people, melt objectives (fly above walkers they cant hurt you)
what's up with people trying to go for YouTube clips? I mean, yeah, kill them when you can. But why are you in their base at 15 minutes, chasing a kill you don't need. We win just by having more items than them because of the flex slot system. Chill, brev.
>>551572523Skilled: Eido, Mast, Aimbotcalvin, Surefour, Zergy, probably some russian I'm forgettingInformational & cool: Deathy, WanderFun to watch: SupertfThere's a real drought on 'content creators' with 'personality' and that's to be expected on a game in a secret alpha you have to be invited into. Anyway watch Mast on youtube just to see how a good player can build in interesting ways, he's generally pretty good at showcasing that.
>>551561791It's not really a cope, it was always easier to get higher rank on a smurf both in Dota and CS. Especially in CS the longer you stayed on a rank the harder it was to rank up because the game just went "well this guy probably belongs here anyway" and you needed 8 wins in a row to get rankup lol
>>551573119>YouTube clips?They're actually going for TikTok clips
>>551573613I am literally ritualist and have had 7/8 winstreaks where I only rank up once. I've given up caring at this point, not like it will matter until this game gets a proper ranked mode.
>>551573119>>551573724this but unironicallyshort form content is king nowadays.watching twitch is old ass boomer unc shit
>>551568117>>551568493I played Victor and Kelvin and finally got out. Good lord.>>551572305Everyone in low prio deserves to be there. I arrived there because I'm paying for my past sins when I was drunk. I was okay until I got hit with a blackout and a 24 hour ban. I laugh as well.
How often do rank resets happen?
>>551574084Never!They're actually going to lock the ranks after the Christmas event and you will be stuck at that rank FOREVER.
>>551523964Play Vyper once and your opinion on this will change.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I JUST WANT ME YAMATO ORNAMENT AND BE DONE WITH THIS SHIT ALREADY
can't believe people are still ornament grinding.
>>551573331ty anon. I hope I get over this whack ass flu so I can just start playing and not just watching
>>551574275>Stuck perma smurfing after my rank plummeted during the eventEh, sure
>win the last 3 ornament games with a negative k/d by ratting to deathI might not be able to play these heroes but i can click on your walker
>>551500185Wasn't her father some legendary sharpshooter whom she inherited the gun and possibly the aim from?>>551495976It's either Billy or Krill, I'd still bet on Billy because he is the butt of the joke of every interaction, Krill can at the very least be resourceful.
How do people wiggle around in the air, specifically when they have high momentum?
>>551574854her grandfather was a real life sharpshooter from wild west legend, doc holliday
>do anything as Bebop>diehow do you play this fat fuck
>>551575558stand 50m away, throw out your 8 second hook, and proceed to auto win the game after hitting it a single time
>>551575558veil walker suicide bombing, also hooking people
>>551575558You exist soley as a hook bot. Trying to do anything else is inting.Ur a support.
fuck this game and fuck everyone who plays it but most of all fuck the devs and their broken matchmaking system that puts me in 50-minute games with troglodytes like this (except doorman he did shit but at least threw a few people into spawn which was funny)
>>551576702>cant carry an initiate gamelol, lmao
What's the point of Cube having spirit scaling if the scaling is so bad it's basically nonexistent?
>teammate Yamato talking shit to me>doorman on our team is glazing Yamato>at some point in the game Yamato disconnects>when he returns I type in chat "see doorman, he's not a fag like you thought, I knew he'd come back">yamato assumes doorman was talking shit and turns on him calling him a pussy and shitting on all of his calloutsThe master manipulator
>try out new hero>3 - 26 kills at 15 minutesthanks for the ornament challenge yoshi, real fun
>>551577285the scaling was only added because of demand. it used to not even have any scaling at all.
>>551577285unironically want him to look like this. maybe eyeballs are more like beads
>>551578073his portrait looks more gloopy than the old versions at leastfingers crossed for january
every callout in phantom-oracle by some pub retard has been genuinely a throwthere is never a reason to mic up or have voice comms on
>>551579081just use voice no one cares about your forced female voice they're playing a video game
>>551579230>>551579230>>551579230
>>551575558any build with echo shard is a trap
>>551579221im regularly comms banned for calling people niggers, and I don’t have any plans to stop soon
>>551577825>Ornament Hunting has caused the matchmaking to be even MORE fucked>low player count mixes the ranks more to fill matches>matches still take minimum 15-20 minutes even if its a washthank you Yoshi very cool
>>551574084they never happen and likely will never happen
