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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>551432519


>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4 [Embed]
>Dev notes 12/20
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11551068

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
Chizuru - Psionic - Void | Ends Dec24
Sereniel - Instinct - Hunter | Starts Dec24 >>>[***LIMITED***]<<<
Narja | Starts Jan14
Nine | Starts Feb4
Tiphera | Statrs Feb25

>Current/Upcoming Events
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Ends Jan13
The Great Rift - Season 1 Phase 1 | Ends Dec24
Chasing the Star's Trajectory - Login Event | 21-day check-in | Ends Jan13

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
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...Is anyone emptying the event shop? Everything costs so much event currency.
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Which one?
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>want to start working towards max duping a bp partner
>not nyx
>would've picked priscilla if scarlet wasn't so obviously BIS for every striker
>current bp goes away before next season's character previews
who to pick
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>>551474547
I'm only buying the important shit, stuff that I can easily farm idgaf.
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>>551474548
Pale Shooting Star
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Start the turn with two shots or have more Afterglow, bros?
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>>551474548
I like shining core
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Beyond improving the 5-star partners, Smilegate needs to make the standard partner banner better. It at least needs something like a rate-up selector.
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e2 sereniel doko?
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>>551474765
all of the card animations are so low effort
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>>551474739
I was going to say, if you have Peko then recovering two lasers from the graveyard every turn gives 2 out of 3 stacks of Repair Complete, but I think those are permanent? haven't even checked
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>>551474930
Why E2
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>>551475164
Rei is the only one that's actually worth getting. Not sure why they put effort into her and no one else
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>a gold shitter
a fate worse than death
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>finally a decent run
>i HAD to get completely bodied by the vagina monster before reaching the end of the run
a classic
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>>551475526
>died to NERFED vagina
please tell me you didn't die using sereniel...
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>>551475478
That was the animator's first project. He got lazier as he realized how many he had to do.
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>>551475596
the secret was having all her cards at the bottom of the deck for two turns in a row
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Which one? Middle sounds like it could be good but I don't know if it's the homing lasers that get the damage boost or if it's talking about the flat damage I deal
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>>551475776
The flat damage of that card.
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>>551475776
right is your break engine
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Guys why is it when I use the Homing Laser with the Move all Homing Laser L in graveyard to hand it never does jack shit? What is the nuance I’m missing here?
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>>551476264
You sure the Laser L are not exhausted?
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>>551475264
I end up getting both. The equipament could be better and I wish I had got a copy on the Divine card but, overall, I am satisfied with that. Getting 8 cards on ravage is nice.
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>>551476264
they only go to the graveyard after you end the turn
if the right pile says something like 1+2 it means there's 1 card in your graveyard and 2 cards in the just played pile, don't remember what it's called
then once you end the turn graveyard becomes 3 plus whatever cards you were holding in your hand
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>>551476645
the graveyard is inclusive of both the used card and discard piles
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>>551476264
There is a reason that her ego skill move all exhausted laser to hand
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>>551476698
It's not the Graveyard keyword but the Move one. Move means it doesn't give a fuck of the state of the card, it is moved in your hand no matter what. Hence how Mei Lin recycles the same Strikes over and over.

This is why the only reason why your Laser doesn't recycle them is those Lasers getting Exhausted. Laser Ls are not permanent like the Lasers that start in the deck.
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>>551475478
Nia's are good too for some reason
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>>551476924
Because they're silly just like the Rei eating one, so they can animate them in cute and extravagant ways rather than having to deal with realism/cool factor
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Am I right to assume Sereniel is bricked if I don’t get the middle epiphany in Chaos?
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>>551476264
It's the Laser L variant, not the others. I also got confused by that, but the card won't move the regular Laser.
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>>551477047
Utmost right can be good depending on the situation, although I think it should be Retain.
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If I’m farming a deck and the first boss doesn’t even give me a choice for the one I’m building do I just reset? It’s a shame since I got the mutant sample but I dunno when to quit and when to keep going.
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>>551477285
depends. are you doing the season one?
season chaos has 3 copies in total (2 boss + event). unfortunately there's a chance you miss it or find the shit version that picks a random card to clone, but still. 3 dupes of an important card is still good

so only reset when the 1st copy you get is for a shit card you absolutely didnt want to duplicate
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>>551477047
Both the left ones can be good with the right divine. Either +AP or reduce cost.
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>>551477215
>>551477629
Thanks bros
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>>551477559
I’m doing lab 0 if that’s the season one. Thanks for the advice, just got the purple gun off Cthulhu so there’s more reason to keep going.
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Anyone else dumb enough to pay for the battle pass like me? Which partner did you pick?
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>>551477047
its nice if you're a laserlet, sereniel can fill up your hand very quickly even if you just pick leftmost one, AP isnt a problem and her EGO just fills your hand again
i feel people are overhyping it, i duped 2 of left one and it cycles quite nicely
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>>551477047
If you have enough draw power, left is good too. That's an If.
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>>551477807
sometimes you might get
>dupe of your character card but not exactly the one you wanted
>dupe of the card you want but has no epi
in both cases I still keep going. my mei lin has only 3 unity cards but she has 2 buff cards which is still pretty good for example
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>>551477832
Serithea because she's the sexiest cutest girl in the game. None of the BP characters are very good, but if you want a purely mechanical tip, the selector is an item without a timer. We're getting partner buffs in the future that may or may not include the dragon girls, so you can decide to wait and see.
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>>551478056
>the selector is an item without a timer
what about this
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>>551477047
The X+ one is really fun if you got her dupes
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>>551478307
How could you foil my plans like that
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>tried to farm a decent deck for selena
>it's all shit
>fuck it, let's do the weekly boss
>634k first try with my previous character decks + the first sereniel and selena decks I got
>gold
good enough for me, I can't be assed
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>>551475164
rin's normal illustrations are weirdly low quality. the animations look a lot better.
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Whats the best difficulty is best to farm lab zero? What modifiers do you guys aim for?
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Will we get a Solo Leveling collab?
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>>551479323
After the Soul Eater collab
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>>551479264
difficulty 8, tier 12+ with whatever mod isnt cancer (skip stuff like -50% HP)
unless you know your deck will need the full 170 points like removing 4 to make a 0 card before first waypoint rerolling for t14 isnt really worth it
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So how's our revenue? Did we mogs Stella Sora?
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>>551479656
Sales are good.
Turns out ass is the key to success.
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>>551479656
We beat Wuwa when they just launched their new 3.0 region.
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Damn...
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>>551479906
Pubes doko?
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>>551479906
Pubes...
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>>551479873
Unironically insane. Are we looking at another 20m+ month? Wish devs would give us some sugar as well. Players literally made them millionaires.
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>>551479567
What's more important the difficulty or tier? Let's say diff 7 but tier 12
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>>551479906
too thin
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>>551480115
Lowest difficulty where you can still get 5* equipment, highest tier you can reasonably clear.
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Isn’t Amorphous Cube really good? Is there a catch?
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>>551479873
>Climbs 65 spots
>Still can't win
2D chibi sprites are so strong...
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you guys think we will get a taller girl than Sereniel in the future?
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>>551480319
The production value of this game is so good for a roguelike deckbuilder. I wish StS was anything like this game in terms of animations. Chrono Ark too.
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>>551480331
Asian tall is 5'6ft
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>>551480293
Nope, best accessory besides the emblem of exceptional specimen
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>>551480319
Sereniel's chibi is actually making me horny the way she holds her tits.
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>>551479873
Is this better than other the other banners or is this an instance of CNZ being good because it beat Wuwa?
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>>551479873
how did this happen
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fucking finally
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>>551480609
CZN made $29 million in it's first month
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>>551480756
Very funny that this will be much harder for newfags to get in 1 month.
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I have like 8 save data files that I’m not sure of which is better, can someone just give like a hypothetical perfect build so I can use it as a reference to checkmark against? Or are there key skills that weigh far more? I know for someone like Tressa Shadow Reload is make or break but Sereniel has been so strong consistently I don’t know if she even have something similar. The same applies for the 3 pieces of gear.

Otherwise I’d have to upload like 8 images and it seems like I’m wasting thread space.
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>>551480853
Not if they roll the latest powercreep.
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>>551480771
So did this banner do better or is it only good because it beat Wuwa?
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>>551480718
Whales finally got a character worth swiping for + she's limited so even more reason to open wallets
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Does Serenial do extra attack damage or is that just when characters do those follow up attacks?
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>>551480994
Both
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>>551480404
are there even any HIGH production value roguelike deck builders?
because everything on the market is very plain in terms of that
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what does /czn/ think about half-whites?
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>>551479873
Can't wait for "GL" to become "Android" on the meme shitpost chart.
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>>551480718
2.9 was a filler patch and 3.0 has ~100 pulls in part 1 alone.
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>>551480994
I don't know what it ranked in the first month, but 14 is very good for CZN
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>>551481117
Not that I'm aware of. CZN is the best one for that.
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we need a mode like gfl2's artifact exploration mode that invalidates save data, level, potential, memory fragments, dupes, partner level and partner dupes
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>girls frontline line 2
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>>551480923
idk if someone figured a "perfect" build yet, it's only a few days and she has a lot of good epis/build variety.
she feels so much better to play than others "meta" chars like tressa/mei lin in chaos for this reason,both of them can just brick without the good shadow/reload/unity.
With Sereniel it's nearly impossible to just brick on epis, like all the homing lasers except the 1 cost are good, all the shining cores except the X one are good, etc
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>/gfg/
>girls loving girls
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>>551479873
as someone who grew up playing games in sprites and pixels, I approve 2d supremacy
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>>551481565
Guess I’ll keep them all for now then. That’s also the thing, I can’t even begin to compare them because I roll over shit so hard, but as a new player I’m also not at the point where I can fight end game stuff for actual comparison, missing too many potentials/gear/levels/etc.

I just wish Yuki was even half as strong. I still find her animations best even from a non sexo pov, but maybe that’s cause I’m comparing her to weeb katana action while comparing Sereniel to Gundam. It’s a bit biased for sure.
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>>551481117
Chrono ark sequel could have been something if it went the CZN route, but sadly it's full of 3d models.
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>>551477047
>create 3x2 uses
>create 2x4 uses
>create 2x2 uses and 2x2 uses later but unique
Ehh, it's all the same shit.
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>>551477047
The fuck is haste?
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>>551479873
Devs should be giving out more freebies bc they are getting way too much profit for such minimum effort
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>>551482174
the enemies action counter doesn't go down
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>>551481117
StS2 is coming out this year, I haven't seen how it looks but StS did make a lot of money
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>>551479873
question. how are the koreans who wanted this game to die taking this?
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SHE IS SUCH A DORK
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>>551481969
>but sadly it's full of 3d models.
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>>551482381
I think this one might be based on Laika's.
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>>551481956
funniest thing is that Sereniel completely mogs Yuki in aoe content despite having mostly ST damage, since you can just break one monster/get all your lasers and kill it/break another mob etc...
She can do well with any support in the game except orlea who clogs your hand and Sereniel needs all the hand space she can get, but orlea is trash anyway so who cares
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Goddammit can someone explain to me what the fuck the Rare Species of the Void Dog at the end of Lab 0 do?
I read him up I swear but there is nothing on his description that explains why he seems to get extra actions if I hit him too much. Clicking him only shows the same Void stacks mechanic as always. Thrice he ruined my runs and I don’t understand it
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Did they nerf the vagina bat or is Serenial just that OP
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>>551482689
this is what my daughter will look like once I pump sereniel full of cum
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>>551482791
He just gets 1 morale every turn. It's impossible to remove or stop it from happening so slowly but surely he'll deal so much damage you'll not be able to outshield or outheal him.
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>>551482793
She's that OP. Every limited will be broken.
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I'm like 30 pulls away from getting my free standard 5 star, what should I prepare for Veronica if I plan to use her with Sereniel?
Also where should I farm for decks in general? The event chaos or is there a specific world I should farm? Or is the Zero version that you pay for better? Do the epiphanies change depending on the world?
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>>551482793
They nerfed it, the werewolf elite and a few others.
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>Sereniel is just beta Kayron and Pre-nerf Tressa
0 cost cards are too powerful. This game is solved.
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>>551483159
It's really fucked up the Kayron can't have 0 cost Futility when Tressa is in the game. Though I guess if they're nerfing Tressa and probably Mei Lin as well then Kayron would have just been nerfed too if he made it to release.
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>>551483078
The dog cunt too? Feels like I can actually play the game now.
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>>551483315
also the testicle grandmas for some absurd reason
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>>551483465
I've had a few occasions where I got bowled over by them so that doesn't surprise me.
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>>551483274
Could be one of the buffs they have planned for February, or whenever the roadmap said they were coming.
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So Sereniel singlehandedly sent Selena from bottom to top tier huh
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>>551482791
>>551482960
They changed him so he gets more hunger each turn instead of morale now to shill the new high hitcount combatants. The extra action only happens if you bring him below the line marked on his hp bar after he already used his action that turn
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I wonder what Kayron's corruption will look like
dude is losing his mind in both of his artworks
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I might actually kill myself
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>>551483159
>>551483274
>dev add corruption version
>its his old kits from beta
I'm calling it
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>>551483840
>that accessory
Bricked build anyway
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>>551483840
>giving her the armor
>not even the ball which would be understandable
100% your fault
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>>551483274
Kayron is too honest for this game
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>>551483840
pffft
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>>551483840
She need exhaust armor/ravage armor
This is purely your mistake
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>>551483896
Brother I rerolled at least 30 times and didn't get a cube what would you like.
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Which world are we grinding for her?
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>>551483972
there was no assignment of blame
it is simply as if you got the wrong epiphany or missed the dupe chances
concerning rng
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>>551483771
I was hoping this wouldn't happen because I hate how Selena's kit has shit like sniper domain that boosts only marks while having many epis that give her non mark extra attacks that don't benefit from it.
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>>551483923
His playstyle is fun to play
>generate futility
>exhaust
>nuke
His kits need damage boost
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>>551484053
I got 3 copies of the card I wanted on her so let's see if the bonus shop in the core gives me it.
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>>551482960
>>551483780
Thanks bros
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>>551483792
>>551483841
Everyone else just looks like battle damage so far, I'm hoping they do more creative stuff with it though.
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Well?
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>>551484437
>6 hours
there is not enough content in that stream to talk this long
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>>551484327
at the very least we are getting new skills and shit with corruption but yeah they really need to do better in the designs
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>>551484437
holy ESL
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>>551484073
Doesn't matter. Selena's stupidly OP in disguise even without Sereniel. Being able to attack 3 (4 if m6 procs) times per card just makes her outscale a lot others stacking morale. She makes Hugo look like a joke.
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>>551484728
It's odd that people weren't building her with ML in a more serious way beforehand. Even if she doesn't hit as many times as Sereniel, it's still a lot.
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>>551484437
>no nerfs ever
DEVS LISTENED!!!!

>actually we will nerf the two best units in the game
DEVS LISTENED!!!!

>also their kits and power will come back in the form of seasonal units
DEVS LISTENED!!!!

>oh no limited units?
DEVS LISTENED!!!!

>actually we will have limited units
DEVS LISTENED!!!!

BUY BUY BUY TOP UPPP TOP UPPPP THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY SMILEGATE
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>>551483771
>we went from TCM to SCS
We like this. This is what CZN is all about. A perfectly balanced game where you're allowed to use any unit that you want as long as it's the current banner unit.
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Has anyone tried fighting the shepard? Wondering how hard the fight will be before committing
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>lost my 2nd +1 ap search
damn shouldnt have picked up the rat card
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>>551484995
I was very sad I couldn't use my chizu chu last leaderboard so I'm glad they listened
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>>551485048
I could never even think about hurting my bro
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>>551484894
I haven't gotten her till now, is my excuse.
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>>551485084
>Free upgrades
>Free weapons
>Only need to praise the void
In void we trust
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>>551484327
>Kayron is now support for exhaust archetype
>he is BiS for exhaust team
Imagine
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>>551482330
There were a bunch of gooks larping as nips in the comment section of the CZN JP rankings chart, dooming and posting pics from ArcaLive. They're quiet now after the game made bank.
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>>551482330
They only care about ntr
https://arca.live/b/chaoszeronightmare/157340646
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>>551484894
Mei Lin + Selena were my first team since they were who I started with.
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Best team mates for Sereniel?
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Literally my first run with Sereniel after pulling for her E2. I'm sitting on 800 of that purple ribbon currency from dupes and thinking I might just push her straight to E4.
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Ok is neutral a basic or common card? Game definitions keep changing and I'm getting confused
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>>551475776
Pick right.
Left is a brick. It seems to do a lot of damage but does nothing for Sereniel's gameplan of ravaging the enemy to spawn lasers.
Middle is a trap. It sadly just does one single extra attack, unlike Beryl's Opening Found that does a dozen hits.
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>>551484894
How do you even build Selena? I only just got her when pulling for Sereniel.
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I'm stupid. Is this thing any good?
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Does Sereniel want Instinct Damage or Attack on her goblet?
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praying that CZN someday reaches this height of character design with its combatants
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>>551485971
There are rarities and card types
>White text = common, Blue = rare, yellow = legendary, purple = mythic
>basic = first 3 cards on a character's card sheet, uniques = every other card on their sheet and cards they create (except luke)
>neutral = every other card not on a character's card sheet (from shops, events, monsters, forbidden cards, etc.). For some reason the neutral cards potential node was renamed to say common cards to make things confusing but it still applies to all neutrals
There are a small number of events that care about card rarity. There's one for converting specifically a common card (includes basic cards and white text neutrals), and random dupe events are for rare+ cards (character uniques and blue/yellow text neutrals)
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>>551486458
No, it's a noob trap.
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But what if I want a sexy female captain...
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Which is better?
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>>551486458
It's the only good trinket for damage dealers besides the lab 0 merit badge which is just a straight upgrade
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>>551486462
Bwos?
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>>551486664
you have to wait for a long time
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>>551486664
You're not a woman anon...
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>>551486674
Left but both kind of suck. This is a card you really want a divine epiphany on if you aren't using the heal version for tressa
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>>551486478
Do you have the other gods?
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>>551486462
Always go for elem damage
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>>551486478
I'm actually pretty hyped about the upcoming content featuring the gods. I noticed the stream only featured 4 of them as possible upgrades, which means Vytor's name might actually mean she is the god/will ascend to godhood in the story. The fact they teased Nihilium as the antagonist behind our current plot and as the possible antagonist of season 2 is exciting too.
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>>551486664
Wrong game sister
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>/gfg/
>gay faggot general
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>>551487273
???????????
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If you guys in need of more leveling mats, go to new combat Abyss difficulty, it's enough for 1-55 2 characters.
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>>551486983
Yeah, I'm a man that wants to look at a female captain's big fat tits.
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>>551487216
wow. dont make me play it bwo
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cut my dick off if you ever catch me stopping at 55
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>>551487383
We pretty much never see Captain in the story though anon...
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>/czn/
>cuck zoomer niggers
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>>551486664
Just headcanon it. Not like it matters since captain is hardly shown at all
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>>551487556
>zoomer
Haha, yeah... We're all zoomer here...
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Sereniel/Chizuru/Rei feels really strong.
Too lazy to build Cassius so I'll stick with this.
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Which one?
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>>551487826
You can remove Chizuru and it will be stronger
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It's so much easier to farm save data for this boss (so far). I hope nobody figures out some chains-level horseshit for this one.
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>>551488031
Tressa nerfs only apply to side 2?
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>>551487867
Ideally you want the "move to hand every turn", it was the most versatile one, but mid and right are pretty good too, you also need other epipis to follow this epipi tho'
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>>551488093
Yep
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>>551488093
Seems side 1 will always be the anything goes part of rift
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>>551487867
I use middle because you're going to trigger ravage every turn regardless.
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>>551487867
Right is at the top of the leaderboard currently
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>>551487383
You should become one so we could look at your big fat female captain ass
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Haven't even played the new boss or hero yet since I'm so busy autobattling the new chapters
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>>551488031
I'm glad that nerfing Tressa allows you to use whoever you want on the leaderboard.
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>>551487867
That destroy is actually insane, it's basically 2k damage for 1 card
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So who should I get after Nyx? Don't tell me it should be another Nyx...
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>>551488802
Another Nyx bwo...
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>>551488802
After the 5* partner buffs the Hunter partner should be pretty good?
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>>551488802
Serithea for looks
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>>551488802
dick pick
There is a correct answer
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>>551488802
Anteia is decent for Tressa and Kayron
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>>551488802
The one who makes your dick leak the most
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>>551488802
They all suck, including nyx. People only cope on nyx because they fell for the nyx propaganda the first time and don't want to feel like they wasted money and resources on her.
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Not sure which one.
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>>551488214
How come? When I tried using it a lot of the times it does nothing because apparently it doesn’t work on exhausted cards.
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>>551489504
Middle and right, left is only good in multi target scenarios. And then it can still brick by only hitting 1-2 targets.
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>>551488802
I got Solia she's alright
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>>551487556
it do be like that
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>>551489504
I’m a shitter so take this with a grain of salt but left is a big no no. Based on my runs that shit doesn’t do jack shit if you fight 1 guy even if it hits him 100x it only counts as making 1 laser.
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>>551488802
>Priscilla
Decent holdover until you get scarlet. Lillian sidegrade
>Eishlen
Niche passive and shit ego skill
>Solia
idk
>Serithea
Crit chance is interesting, but yuri is too strong.
>Anteia
There's no good combatant for her. Kayron maybe, but his personal partner is a high priority to get if you use him.
>Nyx
Good ego, but not actually BIS anywhere.

Pick Priscilla since she's the hottest
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>>551488802
Need a shota dragon so I can dick pick him since all the BP partners are bricks.
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>>551487867
How does destroy work? I started playing a week ago and haven't seen a card with that before this
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>1 bp partner or dupe a month
>powercreep partners will keep releasing every 3 weeks
They're going to be hags in no time...
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Howd I do

Still have 9.6% crit damage in epiphanies
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>>551490214
>attack% V
Keep farming
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>>551490271
Isn’t attack better for newer players? Seems hard to aim for crit chance when the only main crit chance stay comes from 1 piece of gear.
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>>551490193
Hits again on a ravaged enemy. I think it also triggers if it breaks the enemy too.
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>>551490193
Think it's just a inconsistency in ravage text. Sometimes it says Destroy.
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>>551490208
I'd trade my bp partner for crafting mats. Gacha bps are often bad, but czn's in particular is almost worthless.
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>>551490346
>>551490365
I see, I was ignoring that one because I assumed it was going to destroy the card or something, I'll try it out next time I get a chance
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>>551490271
It's a 3.1% difference, and I need it to have 5.4% crit attack% and cd to make it worth it.

On a set that only she uses.
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>>551490271
What are all the mainstats she wants on her artifacts, and where are the numbers? Does she want Instinct Damage?
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>>551490340
The 60% crit chance requirement for her last node is a trap in itself. If you get it cool, but 5% on one card isn't worth sacrificing much
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>>551490476
Every dps wants element damage on their slot V
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>>551490340
In this case you'd not want attack% because she is going to use a rare set only she can use,

And you can get attack% damage type percent crit and cd% on a god piece.

It's just fucking rare, and you still want at least 3% crit on the rolls to use it.

Which makes it super ungodly rare.
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>>551490476
Damage dealers are all basically crit% IV, element V, and attack VI (or def for characters like khalipe). Some can get away with attack V because their last node scales with attack, but sereniel doesn't have a node like that.
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>>551490620
Now I’m confused, aren’t we talking about 2 piece black wing vs 2 piece executioners? I’m new so honestly I’m probably in the wrong here what’s the context about again?
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>>551490851
They're talking about the newish 4 piece instinct set that gives extra damage on ravaged targets
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>>551490937
Yeah I use that too, I assumed that guy was like me 4 piece instinct 2 piece black wing. I assume that because my Sereniel is also 900+ attack.

Is the math formula in this game different? Cause in most games if you were given 12% attack vs 25% crit damage especially in cases where crit chance doesn’t even come close to 100% most cases would favor attack for the consistency.
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>>551491053
The 12% attack is on their base stat, so fully geared it's closer to 5-6% attack. Peko can also pump her crit chance up too so crit damage is particularly good, but most other characters would prefer the crit damage set as their 2 piece regardless
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>>551488802
Any reason I shouldn't pick Solia for Selena?
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>>551489504
The nomenclature for these cards are still dogshit. I've seen the "Ravage" condition applying to both "if the target was ravaged" and "if the target was ravaged BY this card" scenarios.
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>>551490937
I don't think you even want that on her though, at least for the event boss. Maybe it would be good on Cassius.
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>>551491303
Probably because a 3* shitter is better damage wise.
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Is the replica core weapon good for Sereniel?
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I made it. Second to last Event Chaos.
All the way to the third floor's boss.
That wasn't the pile of goop and eyes.
That thing suddenly had a 2.000 or so damaging attack with a special cut-in and all. And I saw who it was. Haku - HA-87
So, what was I supposed to do? What's the trick for beating him? He clogged my deck with weird cards but they were Cost 2 and I frankly couldn't get rid of them.
He had too much health for Sereniel to kill off so fast. At least not with the deck I had gotten.
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>>551491189
Oh, so attack set doesn’t scale much didn’t realize that.
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>>551491053
Instinct is better then attack% because you can get attack percent on an instinct dmg and instinct is multiplicative. Also picrel it's base.

CD is better because picrel its 12% on base.
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Help me out here bros: first time I took Sereniel for a test drive she was amazing. She was killing everything left and right.
Not a single deck since then has been comparable. And I'm dying a lot.
I assume the Upgrade that creates 2 lasers on Ravage is a must on the level of the dagger on heal from Shadow Reload of Tressa.
Anything else?
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>>551491857
If you have e2 you want return every turn to hand.
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>>551491348
The translation in general is shit and they're not improving it at all
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>>551491857
>I assume the Upgrade that creates 2 lasers on Ravage is a must on the level of the dagger on heal from Shadow Reload of Tressa.
Not really. Tressa is a brick without that epiphany. 4 of the top 10 sereniels on the leaderboard right use a different epiphany. Most of her shit just works if you manage her afterglow properly
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>>551492117
Could you post the leaderboard decks? The raid is locked to me cause I'm still going through the story.
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>>551492112
You don't remember how bad it was before.
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Im gonna be honest. I still dont know what ravage even means.
Do they mean break? When you drain the tenacity bar?
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>>551492393
Yeah, it's when you break the posture bar. Problem is, I've seen the right Cobalt Light >>5551489504 being affected by Ravage being done through other cards, while the Cobalt Light that "hit twice if ravaged" can only work if the ravage is done by itself.
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>>551491189
Are all attack modifiers like that or are some modifiers affecting everything?
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BATTOU
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>>551491832
I’m not following you on the second part.
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>>551490415
CZN bp is dogshit in general since it gives like 3 pulls while normally BPs give 9-10 pulls which makes them the most cost effective way to buy pulls besides the monthly.
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>>551492237
current 1 through 10
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>>551492093
What do you mean? Cause I got E2 so I’m listening.
Actually I’m barely awake so I
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>>551493596
Thank you. Also I lvoe how I see the cards are varying here. Sereniel seems to have multiple ways to build her
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Tressa losted
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>>551493001
12% of 503 is 60 attack.
25% CD on 945 attack with a 61% .. 86% on break .. chance to crit is better.
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>no obvious weapon, just floating cubes
We thinking psionic? Dare I say controller?
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>>551493746
She still dominates in the first team in leaderboard thoughover?
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LukeGOD
CassiusCHAD
HugoKING
KayronBRO
LucasALPHA
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>>551493969
First team doesn't matter long as you clear in 5 turns.
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>>551493628

Her ego says you draw 1 each time you start a turn with laser in hand.

Her laser epiphany says return to hand at start of turn.

Get three lasers with that and that's 3 extra cards.
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>>551493969
first team is literally whatever since its fixed points if you kill in 5 turns
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>>551493834
Ah gotcha.
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>>551494048
Holy shit
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>>551494048
I kinda want to go for e2 now...
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>>551493834
Does the 18% purple gun also work like that? Wouldn’t that make it the most shit purple weapon? The 40% on 0 cost or the Chimeranite would be way better then no? And Chimeranite is like half baked because it shares with copy so no one ever gets it.
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/m/fags which Gundam is Sereniel based on?
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>>551494048
are you sure this works? you're moving, not drawing
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so Sereniel broke the game's balance and everyone's celebrating it not realizing that she is poisoning the well
this is grim
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>OTKO the weekly boss
FVARK
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bviZmH3w5ew
How do we compete with this
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>>551494820
ZZZ lost to CZN last month
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>>551494820
>Trying to kill me with cringe
This is illegal anon
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>>551494820
furry girls are cute, we need a zhao or pulchra in our game too.
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How old are you guys
I'm 34
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>>551494986
I'd rather not EOS
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>>551494317
Freedom Gundam with the legally distinct wings and the beamspam.
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>>551493940
Controller perhaps.
And maybe Justice.
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So after Sereniel banner we get Narja, did they mention what would come with Narja's patch since it won't be a new season yet?
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>>551494820
That bitch doesn't have anything on our working class gal
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>>551494986
>>551495297
>we need a zhao or pulchra in our game too.
If we are forced to have a Hugo, at least give us a Pulchra too
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>>551493940
>controller
The perfect bait to send out just before the real supportcreep limited comes out
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>>551493940
She hides her true self beneath her coat, so my head canon is that Tiphera is actually the blue glowy bits and the hebe is just a stand.
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>>551494324
Yes, again it says if it is in your hand at start of turn

And the text for the epiphany says move to hand at start of turn.

I hand max turn 1.
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>>551491303
Rosaria exists.
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>>551491635
The trick is to spam him until he loses all status stacks, then he enters a weakened state. If you fail to do so, you get a meaty orbital strike to the face.
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>>551496110
she's dresses formally but is just a brat
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>>551479873
Fake news. WuWON
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>>551496110
>white highlights in her hair
She's a HAG
Using HAGMAGIC to look young
DONT BE FOOLED
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is this good?
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>>551497332
OUR GOD Saint is here to dispel the fake news!
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>>551497474
explode
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>>551497474
no
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Are we going to get hyper specific fragment sets every season? And then have to farm them again when they release purple fragments?
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>>551497623
Yes, so start complaining about how dogshit the system is or else we get raped.
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It's him...
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>>551495338
No wonder she’s broken, that’s the one Jesus pilots isn’t it?
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>Browntontas
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>>551497623
100%.

Snowbreak does this, and I actually like the way Snowbreak does it. They launched with a bunch of like "stock" Logistics sets kinda like CZN did, but then every girl started getting their own custom Logistics set. Anyway, you spend your stamina on farming stages for event currency, and the event currency buys out the event shop, which has the Logistics sets in them. So you buy everything you want, then you dump the rest into rolling the Logistics. There's only 3 Logistics, not 6. There's also only 3 substats, and you can reroll the 3rd line. So by the end of the patch, you have at least a decent set for the current girl and then you never have to worry about it again. Then you farm the next girl's Logistics during the next event.
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>>551497928
>Snowbreak does th
stopped reading
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>>551498267
Snowbreak's artifact system is a million times better than CZN's. You're just gonna have to cope with it.
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>>551497474
>instict damage
Throw it in the trash
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>>551497332
>>551497497
Qrd on this eceleb why wuwa love this guy?
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>>551498310
>Sno
stopped reading
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>>551498350
he's flares but wuwa
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>>551498363
Why are you like this?
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>>551498267
basadx
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>>551498310
You should know by now that tribalism runs strong here. People here would rather have the gacha system FGO and GBF have over a pity system just because a chinese company popularized it.
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>there's so little content, czniggers are posting about other games
bros, was serenial solved that quickly...
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>Literally just instinct ravage tressa if she actually consistently generated daggers
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>watching e-celebs
>watching fucking gacha e-celebs
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>>551498491
>nerf the only chaos fights that can be considered slightly hard
>release a character that's impossible to brick
chaos sweep in a month
and then eos
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>>551498490
>People here would rather have the gacha system FGO and GBF have over a pity system just because a chinese company popularized it.
No one has ever wanted FGO's system or GBF's system. However, those *are* the strawman systems that people attack anytime 50/50 is criticized.
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bros I just pulled the new titcow, who do I use with her (no Mika)
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>>551498408
As much as i like you, i have no interest in reading any opinions made by people playing Snowbreak. You wasted your time forming said opinion and i am not willing to waste mine by reading it.
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Narja will powercreep Mika
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>>551498719
You do know gacha games are only doing the 50/50 because Genshin got big and popular right? Want to guess what games were big before Genshin? Want to guess why those games never got big outside Japan.
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>>551499012
>i have no interest in reading any opinions made by people playing Snowbreak
I'm not playing Snowbreak. I have played it, but I quit shortly after the 1st anniversary. It just has a better artifact system than CZN. That's all there is to it. You need to broaden your horizons, little guy. You're very small minded.
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>>551498613
It's really funny when wuwajeet come here and post their eceleb, so called kusoge with real gameplay and story they watch eceleb more than playing the game.
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>>551499012
unfathomably based. fuck chinkshitters and their xiuxiu wuxiu ass, dime-a-dozen garbage
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>>551499049
narja will be the final brick to milk all the gibs from day 1 players
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>>551499105
i only read the greentext since it was what i wrote lmao
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>>551499081
>You do know gacha games are only doing the 50/50 because Genshin got big and popular right?
Yeah, that's the issue with it.

That said, we'd probably just have e7's gacha if Genshin didn't happen, and I've never played e7 so I don't know what the gacha is like. If Epic 7 is either generous, or doesn't have a 50/50, or doesn't require dupes, then we missed out.
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>>551499194
Narja can be a brick and I'm still rolling for those tits
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Nine(greatsword user) will powercreep Khalipe(another greatsworf user)
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So do you want Instinct % or ATK % on your goblet for Sereniel? Which is it, bwos?
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how do i get the event for this npc in blue pot?
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>>551495521

See Roadmap on January.

Mainly new end game mode.

It's a rather ambitious roadmap so there could be delays though.
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>>551499509
Instinct%
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Dimensional cube or Emblem on sereniel for great rift?
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>>551499509
Element% is stronger even when you don't get an attack substat. This is still true for characters with a final potential stat scales with attack.
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>>551499509
HP
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>>551499585
Cube only works on exhaust and expires after the turn ends right? Or does it work on discard? I haven't farmed Blue Pot so I don't know what it does
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I am stupid. How many crystals should I save up for a limited character pull? I got around 16K gems and I am unsure whether I am just a stupid hoarder and should be spending more of it, or just keep saving.
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>>551499292
>I don't know anything about the other game but I hate this system because the game I don't like popularized it.
There is a reason why gacha games didn't get popular outside of Japan when FGO and GBF ruled. Normal people do not like gambling like the Japanese where there is no guarantee. Being generous means nothing when you can spend everything and not even get the banner character.
I get that there are people like you who love Japan will worship everything it creates but it's obvious the gacha system you love will never work outside of Japan. Remember that Japan had no competition until 2020.
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>>551499756
+10% additive increase per card discarded this turn
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>>551499912

32k for hard pity on one character and their partner

Tbh I think I'll just skip everything except limited or maybe a very versatile/fun support
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So has anyone done the math for the best weapon for Sereniel or even just in general? I read here and there some weapons are additive, some are multiplicative, etc etc. it’s really annoying that you have to look at funny translations and hope your comprehension of the English language aligns with their translator.
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>>551499756
It's only good when Nia exist
No other characters can discard that many cards every turn
Also it doesn't need the wearer to discard
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>>551500058
>There is a reason why gacha games didn't get popular outside of Japan when FGO and GBF ruled.
Yeah, I don't care. I played gacha before Genshin just fine, and I never played FGO or GBF.

>Normal people do not like gambling like the Japanese where there is no guarantee.
The only gacha I've ever played that didn't have a guarantee was Another Eden, and I'd still consider that to be a generous gacha that is better than having a 50/50, because as long as you have any version of a character, you can farm their new styles. Heaven Burns Red did this exact same thing, except they added a Spark and they took away the ability to farm for alternate styles, and the gacha is MUCH worse because of it.

>I get that there are people like you who love Japan will worship everything it creates
This is where you're starting to strawman again. You are attacking FGO and GBF's gacha system, and I have never played those games. And Epic 7 is Korean. We'd have Epic 7's gacha if Genshin didn't happen, not FGO or GBF's. Your overly dedicated, harmonious cultivation of Chinese culture has fried your brain and you cannot even begin a conversation without becoming a tribalistic CN worshiper who attacks his FGO and GBF strawman bogeymen and seems to hate Japan.

>Remember that Japan had no competition until 2020.
Epic 7 is Korean and came out in 2018.
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>>551495521
Memory frag clarity which is the +1-5 equip substats and 1 wave clear sims.
Then the 150 floor tower with no turn limits.
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>>551474429
Whomst?
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How do you fight around Judas's gimmick? I'm getting filtered by Judas 6
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Is Sereniel like this too
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Worth using the universal ego to get E2?
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>>551500925
nah
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>>551500360
>I don't know how ANY of the gacha system works in JP games OR how the gacha system for this Korean game works but they are better than this system because this system was made popular by the Chinese. If you talk about this stuff then you are strawmanning.
Funny stuff here.
>The only gacha I've ever played that didn't have a guarantee was Another Eden, and I'd still consider that to be a generous gacha that is better than having a 50/50, because as long as you have any version of a character, you can farm their new styles.
How many pulls are needed to get the banner character? What you consider doesn't matter when you can just look at the numbers.
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>>551481117
Morimens is up there, but the values come from art and illustrations (as well as music.) Battle animations are just fine. Cinematic ones though, are beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rmkXTIDAfc
This is the main heroine of a whole saga from years ago now depicted in her bad end were he did end up dying birthing a god from the dreams of a cult lead by a priestess of a forgotten kingdom. Morimens is indeed true horror which is it's greatest strength. It's niche as even today is unique in it's genre.
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>>551500925

No, her ceiling is still less than current broken shit (TCM/MeiLin) at base kit, she is occupying the leaderboard because shill buffs and the boss specifically designed for her.

That said, she's the best character Choas because her floor is super high it's hard to get a feels bad run.
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>>551500737
HuGOD
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>>551501110

Brother the game can't even afford card arts, let alone "production quality"
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Not bad, looks like I'll gun for Master this time. E0 Sereniel and Yuri btw.
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>>551501131
Who else? I refuse to be knoted.
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>>551500773
Pierce Veronica plus shields and heals.
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>>551501225
Luke gets better with more spooks so him
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>>551482274
In the next 4 days?
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>>551501224
Also I'm still missing some potentials lmao
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Low IQ retard here.

So the only way I can clear the endgame content is, building an OTK decks...?

How am I supposed to do that...?
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>>551501225
Hugo is the only real tier 0 in the game forever, get him or be bricked until eos.
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>>551501183
uhm? The quality is right there for anyone to see. Their illustrations and music are some of the best in the market.
It lacks in several fronts because this is quite literally an indie gacha which just shows how much talent and heart these guys have.

https://youtu.be/Nw8EG5sAZUo?si=K__-m-mIabHv-xtb

This IS a gorgeous game with a vision that didn't change.
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**The Savior Has Arrived**
The thread is completely dominated by the release of **Sereniel** (aka "Sexreniel"). She is widely considered to have "saved" the game, mostly due to her "massive assets" and the fact that she actually deals damage. Players are frantically debating her best build, with a war waging between **Shining Core** and **Homing Laser** users, all while the **"SENMETSU"** spam echoes endlessly.

**The "Brick" Squad & The Homo**
While everyone glazes Sereniel, **Yuki** and **Chizuru** (dubbed "Brickzuru") are getting roasted for being useless "bricks." Meanwhile, **Cassius** is public enemy number one. The "homo" is accused of breaking the game's balance, and the thread is torn between abusing his kit and demanding the devs gut him entirely.

**Schizo Hours: Pubes & Time Travel**
It wouldn't be /vg/ without some mental breakdowns:

* **The Time Traveler:** One anon claims you can use an *Animal Crossing*-style date-skip exploit to get future rewards. The thread descended into chaos trying to figure out if this is a legit strat or just top-tier bait to get greedy players banned.
* **The Pube Inspector:** A resident "schizo" is fighting a holy war regarding the hair situation of the girls, specifically demanding "heart-shaped pubes" for Mei Lin and criticizing fan art for anatomical inaccuracies.

**Devs vs. The World**
The sentiment toward the developers is pure toxicity. Between broken save files, "spaghetti code," and translation errors, the thread is praying for **"apologibs"** (compensation). The roadmap is also a hot topic, with doomers predicting every season will end with a broken limited unit just to milk the playerbase.

**Other Highlights:**

* **Luke:** A fierce debate over whether Luke is a top or a bottom.
* **Uma Musume Refugees:** A few lost souls comparing the CZN grind to the horse racing mines, concluding that at least this is a "brainless swipe up to win" simulator.
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>>551501225
Orlea since she is the dev favorite and is getting huge buffs in season 2.
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>>551501268
did 1 roll and got spooked by magna does it change your judgement?
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>>551501429
Morimens are one of those games i really wish them to do well but never play because i just dont have that much time to play an mmo, 2 gacha and all the single player games on my pc, watch movies, read manga, etc etc..
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>>551501429

The question is about production quality, the thing that Morimens doesn't have. Even most indie deck builders on Steam has arts for thier cards.
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>>551501525
If you want good value immediately, get hugo or luke otherwise get whomever you want.
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>>551501472
I might pick her up, she already has some huge buffs, if you know what i mean
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>>551501626
I mean, i ain't maxing anyone soon im broke af, but thanks for the recommendation bwo
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>>551501429
I really like that they are doing a collab with a game that fucking died because they love their indie dev community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIFVkhJe0I
What other gacha would even dare to collab with a game that doesn't exist anymore? And it's a permanent one. They literally went and rescued a character from a universe that died, and this character know that it happened which is bonkersly delicious worldbuilding foundations for anyone that got their heart broken when that game vanished.
>>551501621
Yes? And Morimens indeed have great production quality with original music, illustrations, animations, fmv's and unique seiyuus; this genre barely have but a few of these with as much; CZN is an anomaly that has paid off.
They are working towards having the whole game be voiced now that they got a budget. They are investing the money back into the game constantly. It's full of 50V1 which.
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>>551501072
>>I don't know how ANY of the gacha system works in JP games OR how the gacha system for this Korean game works but they are better than this system because this system was made popular by the Chinese.
Jesus Christ man, shut the fuck up. I do know how some JP gacha systems work, but I've never played FGO or GBF, which is the games you keep strawmanning. You have a very weird hateboner for JP for some reason. Are (You) Chinese, by chance? That's the only reason I can think of that would make you act like this.

The country of origin has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a gacha system is good or not. For example, Snowbreak is Chinese. As I stated originally, it has a much better artifact system than CZN. You remarked that people are very tribalistic here, which is ironic because you've been nothing but tribalistic. Anyway, Snowbreak, a CN game, also has a better gacha than CZN. They originally launched with the same dogshit bullshit 50/50 gacha, but they also added a 100% gacha, and as a f2p you can always get enough gems to be guaranteed to get every new unit as long as you are completing everything. So there you go. A CN game that has a better gacha than the popularized 50/50 dogshit. Whether or not has gacha is good has nothing to do with the country that the gacha originated from, you mongoloid.

>How many pulls are needed to get the banner character?
There is no pity. It could be infinite. However, I got every character that I pulled for, and I farmed the alternate styles for units I already had and wanted the styles of, only pulling for new characters. If you've never played a gacha where characters have multiple styles, this probably wouldn't make sense to you. I quit when they added what are essentially 6* characters. I actually pulled the 6* on my first 10 pull, but I still quit because I was already fizzling out and a new 6* rarity is just bullshit.
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>>551501072
>>551502002
Oh, also, they had a thing where like 3 or 4 times per year, you could spend $25 and get any character that you wanted. I didn't do that, but if you are even a light spender, Another Eden was very generous for you.
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>>551501225
Rin maybe?
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>say i am annoyed at the shitty pack deals
>few hours later subreddit post with the same complaint
Dead internet theory or...?
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>>551501338
literally every character in this game enjoys spamming some cards, you just have to find out how they do it and build a deck accordingly
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>>551500737
Orlea.
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>>551502298
Reddit also breathes oxygen. Damn, dead internet theory???

Most of the complains we have are not really hot takes.
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>>551502298

It's a commom complaint for all gacha games. I don't like it too, but what Reddit couldn't understand is that the price is deliberately high.

1 whales spending 10k USD >>>> 500 players spending 10 USD >>>> 10 milliom f2poor spending nothing
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>>551502504
but thats fucked. there is no middle ground. as a dolphin who is ready to drop 100 bucks a month for a gacha, where does that leave me? i WANT to get more rolls but those fucking packs are trash. even the event packs that SHOULD be a good deal, are not. even the nips are complaining.
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>>551502619
>there is no middle ground
That's society as a whole recently...
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How's this? Ore event wasn't kind to me (I would've gone over 140 anyway. I regret picking up the Forbidden Card)
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>>551502730
Almost BiS congrats
>Forbidden card
yeah I don't think I've seen a single Sereniel with one in the ladder
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>>551502710
we in the west went from paying off a house in 3 to 5 years to not being able to buy a house at all.
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>>551502787
What am I missing? One more laser? (Ignore the armor I was broke the whole run)
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>>551502818
Actually now that I've seen it
>Lasers are not the "Move this on Ravage AND start on turn"
I think those are BiS ones but w/e yours are also good too.
In any case:
>-1 Basic
>+1 Laser
>-1 Forbidden
>Wings and Emblem
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>>551502906
Oh crap I misread it. I thought I grabbed exactly that one. The top 2 ranked don't have that variant either but it's probably the best anyway. Back to the mines?
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Does the replica core equipment work with Sereniel?
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>>551502730
Pretty good, though missing on the laser epiphany is rough. That version of Plasma Missile isn't great either cause the boss is Instinct Weak and Cassius provides all the additive bonuses you need.
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>>551503000
Isn't that Plasma Missile the BiS one every time? I am gonna run Cassius for side 2. Which one should I go for then?
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>>551502963
>Back to the mines?
Not at all. I think it's just the more versatile build to use outside of the event.
>>551503060
>Isn't that Plasma Missile the BiS one every time?
Only on non-Instinct enemies.
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Surprised my bricked deck and equips took me this far. Won't be surprised when whales with e2+ sereniel and optimized decks break past 1.4mil.
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can serena use spark of passion? i have a set with no one to use it on
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>>551501110
>>551501429
>>551501997
keep shilling your game, doesn't change the fact that it's low effort
the eternal vain pilgrimage shit is mihoyo tier slideshow powerpoint storytelling
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>>551503123
your Selena?
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>SG launches game with very little content
>introduces absurdly high prices to net whales and keep the majority from obtaining everything too quickly
>rewrite becomes necessary
>the plan to lower prices as a DEVS LISTENED pr stunt halts
>event prices stay high to hopefully keep invested poors onboard
>make sereniel broken to do the same
>TCM has to be nerfed to make up lost revenue
i've solved it.
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>>551503115
If you're doing laser break loops with Selena, any of these 3 are fine. Personally I like upgrade cause it thins the deck, but don't expect anything from the damage.
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>>551503350
Half of your post is ESL babble but I can guarantee you no sane or 200 IQ company would say
>YABBA DABBA DOOO LET'S COMPLETELY PISS OFF OUR HOME MARKET FOR LE EPIC 200 IQ PLAYS
SG is just fucking retarded.
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>>551503372
That unique upgrade is a massive brick though unless you're only picking it to prevent it from duping
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>>551503248
it's not low effort, it's low production value. the devs are poor and can't afford stuff, even translations a lot of the time (half the game is chatGPT translated)
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>>551503372
Nah the Upgrade is really bad. Even assuming some insane scenarios where you break the boss 3 times thanks to Selena and then use the EGO to get 9 lasers, it's like maybe a 1000% damage at the end turn, which sounds huge but then you remember that Sereniel's lasers get up to 300% each on broken targets
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>>551503454
yelling BROWN at the screen doesn't mean anything in the face of >>551479873. wuwa LOST
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>>551503612
Passion support to make Mei Lin tier 0.
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roll narja
skip nine
skip shartphera
roll t0 limited
yep i'm thinking i'm gonna make it
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>>551503556
>(half the game is chatGPT translated)
Same thing as CZN then.
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>>551503612
>m*le
>no ass
not every dude can have gayron's ass, bro
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>>551503491
>>551503582
Yeah I know it's shit, it does less than a Triple 0. The point is more that I'd rather just give a thin deck with a bit of passive damage on the side.
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>>551479873
>He keeps forcing this stupid tribalism against Wuwa
Man hoyotrannies are truly shameless huh? Why don't you compare to your games that aren't even top 50?
>>551481131
>2.9
Wow didn't know Wuwa had a 2.9 now, you for sure know what you're talking about no doubt.
Pathetic losers having to come to other game generals to fight their little wars they already lost.
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>>551503673
Based and same. Except remove "shart"
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>>551503309
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>even Selena is seeing use now
the 4*s in this game are great bwos
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>>551503856
thank you
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>>551503805
i just had to make a jab at the cunnylords
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>>551503869
I'm happy she's getting some use cause I built her before I selected Veronica
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>>551503869
Magnabros...
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>>551504010
it's nyover
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>>551503869
Lucasbros.....
Maribellbros...
Amirbros...
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>Ugly slut post from a dead game
>[-]
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>>551503993
I was using her too but as a meme Eternal Hunger recycler with the draw 1-> put 1 card on top of the deck card
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Magna and Orlea will be buffed next season
My dog works in smilegate
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>rank 422
>diamond
umm where are all of the players
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>>551503869
You gotta wonder just how fucking strong was that giant goblin to mog Rei. Owen is a shitter so him bitching out is par for the course but once you realize most of the 4* crew are true protagonist crew level the opening tutorial mobs look different.

Hell I never even met another cyclops like it.
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>>551504162
its c-christmas bro
dead game
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>>551504102
Orlea is going t0 confirmed. Magna? She's going upstate to play on your aunt's farm... forever.
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>>551504162
Still farming my Selena deck
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guys all this cross posting off topic shit and stuff, it's really hard to understand
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>>551504398
do some more reporting and get a week's vacation about it, hall monitorfag
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>>551504398
At least they feed the thread
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Roll all females
Skip all males
Yep, simple as.
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>>551504445
4chan has no moderation we know that, that is why /vt/ completely died for example
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>>551504398
Hoyotranny shills are paid to shit the generals of every single gacha that has a similar revenue on the meme chart while also trying to create tribalism between said games.
They do this because their shit slop games can only compete in how much money they make and not in how good they are. Sad really.
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>>551503372
the create 3 one is good for E2, you're effectively drawing 3 extra cards next turn on top of the lasers
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>>551504552
One time /vt/ caught one of the mods got caught samefagging/falseflagging themselves (they posted with their mod account).
No idea if that was an elaborate falseflag or something from them but well it confirms they do shitpost themselves, which is not surprising.
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>>551504483
CZN has no male banners thoughover?
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>>551504483
>skip all males
skipping once a year?
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>>551504861
we need male banners to appease gays and women
hope we get some
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>>551504807
Isn't it only 1 card even if you draw multiple lasers at the same time?
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Yuki needs to show me her feet
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Canon love interest btw.
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>>551505359
tsun bitch
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>>551504552
>>551504829
Your Xmas present.
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>>551483840
imagine giving her the brick armor at all. Better to keep even blue armor than waste a potential purple spot
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does extra damage% count for sexbunny's final potential?
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>>551505359
She needs the D
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>>551498310
>3 pc vs 5 pc
>can reroll substats vs can't reroll substats
>no blue-white stone faggotry vs blue-white stone faggotry
>SB has an item that lets you replace a substat with a substat of your choice
Yeah, its not even a fair comparison. Too bad Snowbreak has dogshit gameplay and awful story. If it did harem at least half as well as Horizon Walker, the story might be its redeeming factor. Harem and serious story just don't mesh well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAj-A0DJFc
This guy says only roll for limited every season because the others will be trash compared to them
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>>551505783
Jenazad said Sereniel is not a must pull
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>>551505697
Just go Amber Sword and you can easily do serious harem. It’s half the reason Nikke is such a big success, doom n gloom survival works wonders keeping bitches in line.
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>>551505783
>Jenafag
Ok i will now roll E2P1 Narja.
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Sereniel just flew over my house
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Crystal ball right?
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>>551506210
Yeah that weapon is for supports

If you ever find the Gun thats better than Crystal ball if you play her with Cassius (so for the leaderboard)
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>>551506210
Yeah. It's one of her best weapons for lazor spam.
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>>551506210
Yes, not even close.
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>complete event missions every week
>ignoring the overpriced dump mats, still 48,000 white fragments off from emptying the event shop
i don't understand how these devs are such fucking retards.
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Finished the event story and I don't get where the fuck Sereniel's love song comes from
They talk like 3 times, they fly together once
Out of the three new girls she's the least close to the MC
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>>551505697
>Too bad Snowbreak has dogshit gameplay and awful story
I think its story is about on par with other gachas, and I liked the gameplay. It scratched my third person shooter itch while I was playing it. Though a lot of the characters stopped shooting guns, which just turns it into 3D ability spam.
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is this game fun? Im downloading it right now on my phone. I never played turn based card games in my life
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>>551506567
yea
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2nd run with sereniel. Not actually sure what I’m aiming for.
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>>551506532
The character and partner exp mats are just currency dumps.
You should be able to buy out everything else by just doing the weekly missions.
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This last for the rest of the battle right?
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>>551506567
>is this game fun?
If you top up to get the latest powercreep, yes.
Progression is locked behind massive stamina gates which can be circumvented by paying.
Your characters need a proper "deck" built which you get purely through RNG by running one game mode over and over again until the stars align. This can take anywhere from 1 hour to 1 month. These decks also get wiped at the end of every season so you have to get them all over again.
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>>551506638
general consensus at least based on great rift as benchmark seems to be duping Homing Laser
I personally went with Shining Core copies and did okay on the content
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>>551506673
seems like it
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>>551506547
Did you really read the story?
SS Nightmare is a famous ship that destroys chaos cores thanks to captains protos analyzing ability.
Sereniel idolizes the captain because she hates chaos.
The captain even suggest to use her cobalt core instead of the ships weapons to destroy the next chaos core which she finds very charming.
The chemistry is there.
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>>551506547
Dude in the very first scene of the story Sereniel told us that she already know about our achievement.
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>>551506828
>>551506861
>Captain replies with
>"Uh... uhm... I'm a little... scared..."
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>>551506547
maybe they just want to breed
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>>551506913
Sereniel is a yandere.
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Sereniel's tits are way too big it's quite unsightly and disturbing
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>>551506567
Honey moon phase is top tier 9 or 10 out of 10.
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>>551506979
Ok Renoa...
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>>551506567
depends
are you a gacha nigger like >>551506705
or do you like to play games?
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>>551506975
>talk about how much of a beta pussy Captain is
>tells me what he believes Senny to be
?????
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>>551506547
She really likes huge cannons.
(You)'re a captain of a huge ship with huge cannons.
(You) have a huge cannon.
(You)'re kinda cute and rapeable.

What do you not understand?
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Close enough to top 1's deck I guess. Now to farm selena and casius.
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>>551506979
ANNOYING BITCH
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>>551505592
I think so.
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>Captain is such a pussy he needs the girls to protect him every single mission
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>>551506567
>>551507025
Yeah, honeymoon phase is really good if you like StS. Once all the grime of the game's systems start kicking in it becomes a real chore. Plus they're nerfing the good launch characters so that they can sell you the new limited character. They are doing things to try to make the game better though. I think in another couple months we'll be able to tell whether or not this is a good game or a piece of shit. Right now it's kinda both.
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What is the strongest team for chaos/lab0/codex/etc if I just wanna progress for achievements and shit? I’m stuck on the 10th difficulty. Don’t have Veronica/Mei Lin. I’m gonna assume one of them is probably Sereniel? But I have no idea on who else or how to play it, I’ve just always lost to the new bonus boss and it won’t let me go to the next difficulty.
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>>551506828
>>551507162
>suddenly start talking about other games again
subhuman
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>>551500925
She's strong but Mei Lin/Tressa are on another level
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>>551507204
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?
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>>551506828
>>551506861
>>551507083
The logical next step of being impressed by someone's achievements (and canon) isn't to make a love song about them. You're not going to tell that this one single scene is enough for her to fall in love
I don't want the song to be gone, mind you, I want the story to justify its existence
I.E. more scenes between her and the MC
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>>551507191
>I’ve just always lost to the new bonus boss
You can skip the event for the bonus boss if you can't beat it.
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>>551507079
Captains recognizes a crazy bitch and you never stick your dick into a crazy bitch.
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>>551507245
Your dates and momotalks?
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>>551507245
i was holding Seris hands and flying around with her while my face is clenched to her boobs, what does Renoa-bitch have that comes close?
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>>551507191
Unironically Sereniel yes
She's unbrickable, every epi you get through the run is really good
3rd is obviously Mika. As second, no idea, Veronica is so amazing inside Chaos she's basically irreplaceable. Some sub DPS that provides utility I guess.
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>>551507237
>Tressafag STILL seething this much
This one's for you.
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Sereniel is a crutch
You didn't beat the game
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>>551507191
Yuki+Rei for speedrunning chaos
Sereniel for max comfy
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>>551507325
She writes poetry and calls you a subhuman for liking dogs. And for liking cakes. And for suggesting that she was writing a love letter.
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>>551507237
>>551507162
>>551506828
>called out for his brain-dead trope he repeats every thread just to get btfo again and again
>y-you are the schizo man
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>>551507325
Unlike that stupid oversexualized bitch, Renoa has an actual personality and will not suck your micropenis for simply existing. She has her own likes and dislikes and isn't afraid of telling you like the whole cat and dog thing.

If you prefer Sereniel over Renoa, you're an insecure incel.
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The latest event story feels rushed as fucked. Yuki was about to kill labcoat lady when suddenly monsters appear then Sereniel appears and suddenly she doesn't want to kill her anymore? Haflway through the Haku fight, suddenly without any build up the mcguffin activates and solves everything ez pz. Feels like I'm reading a story without additional context.
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>>551507463
>actual personality
stopped reading here
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>>551507428
>Yuki
yuki is the worst chaos character in game. she is garbage.
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>>551507363
>>551507462 (samefag)
>>551507204 (samefag)
Literally everyone is a Tressafag, and Cassius and Mei Lin are getting nerfed too, for sure.
What are you even schizoing about? Are you made that I brought up StS?
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>>551507490
>Feels like I'm reading a story without additional context.
context is in the 5 unwritten story chapters, you rike?
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I hope Narja will unbrick Maribell or Amir.
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>>551507490
>putting it under spoiler
lol You overestimate how much people care about the story.
Yuki was stopped by Chizuru and calmed down there already. As for the thing activating, yeah, power of yuri I guess
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genius story
>pretty girl starts crying so it's instantly emotional
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>>551507592
works every time bro
crying is women's ultimate
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>>551507529
Get good
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Asuna lost
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>>551507562
...?
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>>551507664
...
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>nerf a character for being too strong
>makes the next character 5x stronger
what did the dev mean by this
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>>551507556
Meds now, dipshit.
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>>551507592
>OH SHIT THIS IS SO EMOTIONAL I'M ABOUT TO CRY HOL-
>>>>
>Nevermind guess I'll fap instead
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>>551507664
Magna should have gotten a corruption instead of hugo...
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>>551507680
by what metric?
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I like how they introduced Narja and Gaya in the story before their banners and how they teased season 2 with the flashback while analyzing the chaos core.
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>>551507705
Hugo is just a better character. He's the face of czn for a reason.
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>>551507556
Just opened the thread 5 seconds ago. Stop projecting dumbass I’ve never leveled Tressa in my life.
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>>551507701
booba
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>>551507760
>while analyzing the chaos core.
What the fuck was that schizo talk by the way
What did the captain see
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>>551507684
Stop unchecking the (You)s, schizo.
>>551507363
>>551507462 (90 seconds)
You're not even explaining what triggered you.
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>>551507762
TOTAL HUGOD VICTORY
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Sereniel was obviously good for the game since it made people actually spend money and pull for real, she's also a pretty fun character with lots of potential builds
That being said, I already had my fun and I don't see myself doing anything else in this patch, people only take 2-3 days to farm chaos for a new character and settle with a score in the leaderboard. But now it's 20 days of nothing
They really need some long term roguelite thing that is not chaos
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>>551507835
pass user, 30 seconds bozo
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>>551507664
Ok now post the CN cropped ears version.
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>>551506567
yea its fun. you will enjoy it for the next 600 hours. after that you will get a bit burned out and jaded and i will welcome you complaining about it /here/. which is kinda fun in its own right. overall 8/10
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>>551507859
>They really need some long term roguelite thing that is not chaos
Well, it was announced.
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Was Haku just a schizo or was the director actually a bad guy?
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>>551507886
>>551507835
NVM it's 60 but some times 30 seconds? IDK
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Haku did nothing wrong btw
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>>551507886
>>551507923
Okay, well you and the other person who isn't you who are consistently posting 90 seconds apart both decided to melt down at exactly the same time at exactly the same post and neither one of you are going to explain why. One of you is mad because I said "StS"
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>>551507897
>cropped ears version.
excuse me?
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>>551507996
I fapped to him thinking he was a girl before the reveal...
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>>551507917
Haku got touched by the god Nihillum so he went full schizo.
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>>551508021
>he doesn’t know about Magna’s cultural revolution
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>>551508082
>Haku got touched
hahahahaha
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>>551508029
It's ok, it happens.
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>>551508021
You haven't seen Amir after boob reduction surgery?
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is there multiplayer in czn?
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Literally nothing wrong to kill the people that try to experiment on you
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>>551508187
Not yet and not soon

We don't even have a single social feature. You can add friends but it's completely pointless
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>>551508187
yes leaderboard
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>>551508131
At least post a good one.
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>>551508187
Only on /czn/ where we compete for the izzat leaderboards. Also guilds are coming next patch or something so we'll probably have raids or whatever.
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What's our guild name
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>>551508250
but he was gonna give him a flower...
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>>551507701
how am I supposed to fucking focus
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I’m the leader of the RinGOD guild.
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>>551507897
>>551508021
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Would this be an acceptable thing to do
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>>551508014
you get shit on because you clearly hate everything about the game while posting in its general and also shilling another game "by accident" in that very same sentence
retard
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>>551508386
holy improvement
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>>551508262
You know he's a he from the get-go tho unlike Bill. I don't remember much about the game but I do know I never got his scenes.
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>>551508330
Toilet Coon Mumbaikars
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>>551508187
You'll be able to borrow save data in the future for simulations. Maybe Basin too, who knows.
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>>551508386
It's a fan edit, right? This can't be official.
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>>551508398
>shilling another game "by accident"
Holy fucking schizo
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>>551508262
Based
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>>551508545
....
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I regret pulling sereniel
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>>551508545
Nah, it's real. The CN versions removed all the ears and covered up all the sluts. Oh they also made all the red eyes a different color because I guess you can't have red eye in CN. Khalipe and Veronica aren't that bad but Magna had her whole gimmick taken away.
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...I said, on opposite day.
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>>551508330
XxTrannyfucker Squad Hitler Elite Batallion Alexandre IIIxX
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>>551508382
Wow! Look everyone, a real ass nigger!
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who has more fun combat, morimens or chaos zero
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Did they forget to add the screams for sereniel when she use her breakdown cards?
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>>551508330
Cluck Zoomer Ninjas
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>>551508937
>Gloom
she's supposed to be emotionless depressed
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>>551509061
No, Luke says a lot of things when you use his...
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>>551508908
reverse 1999
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>>551508330
KnotGODS
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A3 Sereniel or her Partner?
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>>551508908
morimens has very insane combos but can become complicated and fatiguing, there are boss battles where you play hundreds of cards. while czn if you put together a deck that does anything interesting or complicated you are winning the run so hard it doesn't even matter. it's fun to play both.
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>>551509216
e2 + Partner
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>>551509216
partner
E3 is not that big of an improvement
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>>551508545
>It's a fan edit, right? This can't be official.
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>>551509258
>>551509273
Flattie it is then
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>>551509273
s0 partner isn't a big improvement either because Yuri is so strong
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Place bets. Only missing Orlea, Luke and Kayron.
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>>551509379
25% crit is good
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TressaGODs how much time do we have before the nerf
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>>551509384
Khalipe
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>>551509384
Luke is going to be incredibly broken as soon as Euphina releases
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>>551509379
this shitpost aint workin on my niggas anymore
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>>551509418
until the heat death of the universe
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>>551509403
it's not, and yuri's EP bailing you out of bad turns will have a bigger influence on your runs than 14% more damage vs ravaged targets in boss fights. if you're pulling peko you should be doing it for her passives being stronger not the bait EP.
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>>551509403
Draw 2 is also good
And honestly I don't think I've ever even used Peko in chaos, probably quite good for Rift though
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>>551509442
>>551509454
E2 Reona with this.
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newfag here, how does card thing works? Can you add your own cards or games just gives you random cards for that specific character?
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>>551509490
This is true for chaos, but it's only 1 time draw 2 in rift while the +25% crit is active for 10 turns.
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>>551509379
This f2p cope bait will work for a while
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So it's been 2 days.
Do you like her anons?
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>>551509656
Ye she’s great
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>>551509656
She is fun but it's impossible to mindbreak her.
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>>551509647
It's true for chaos. If you can ravage in chaos you're going to kill all the enemies anyways, you don't need +25% crit. And you'll probably have more AP than you need so drawing 2 will probably do more.
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>>551509490
>it's not
25% is good, especially because you already have 60% crit, so you have 85% crit rate

>yuri's EP bailing you out of bad turns will have a bigger influence on your runs
You're already drawing another card every time you draw a missile
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>>551509752
Not like you'd get rewarded if you did, her second mindbreak is boring as all hell
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>retards actually trying to argue 25% more crit is bad
i told you to keep these /snowg/ and /nikg/ SEAniggers out
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>>551509656
I want to impregnate her thighs
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I'm not wasting my 300 blue things on Peko. Your shilling won't work on me. I can beat all the content with a F2P partner and thus won't spend anything on Peko.
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Wife!
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>>551508908
Jagged alliance gold edition with mods
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>>551509812
i appreciate the effort, but these are both horrible arguments. starting at 60 doesnt somehow make 25 crit more valuable and drawing one card on some turns doesn't make drawing 2 cards with an EP less valuable.
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>>551509982
Thats not how it works
>>551509597
Yes
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>>551509981
it's a 3 cost EP that does nothing else. in what situations do you find yourself clicking the EP button in this game?
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how the fuck can i turn off sound from the game when i alt tab?
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>>551510156
Bottom right of the screen, windows sound mixed
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>everyone's wasting their shop currency on an unneeded ego
jesus
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serenniel plasma shit activates as many hugods attacks as possible. pretty cool interaction if intended.
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>>551510106
You fucking dumbass nigger, Peko gives
>25% more crit for the whole fight for 3 AP
>8% more damage at p0
>a 10% damage boost that has up to 3 stacks
>15% more damage against ravaged units
You dumbass niggerfaggot SEAjeetbastard needs to rope itself
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>>551509812
Having 60% crit actually makes 25% less of a relative damage increase.
When I can ravage enemies in chaos I usually end the turn with extra lasers in hand unplayed after killing all the enemies, and I don't use Peko's ego. The times where I can't kill everything turn 1 is usually because I don't have enough ravage because I didn't draw the right cards.
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>>551510025
You're retarded.

>>551509981
I was the guy who was shilling Snowbreak's artifact system earlier, and that guy is just a retard. He might even be a shitposter who doesn't play the game. I doubt he plays Snowbreak or Nikke. I'd be surprised if he plays any video games.
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>>551510305
Yuri has 16% attack and 16% increased, which is going to be similar to 8% attack +30% and 15% increased.
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>>551510253
you dont use your shop currency on ANY fucking partners if you are not a braindead SEAmonkey and instead roll for them if you really need it. 70 rolls is a much better bang for buck than 300 memories or what the fuck they are called
>>551510397
you are actually fucking retarded and failed in school you fucking bitchass tranny. never reply to me again
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>>551510447
>>551510397
Maybe you guys can make a comparison table or something you seem passionate about it
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>>551510305
i've made myself very clear, it's not a useful EP in chaos, you want EPs to help you in aoe fights with high incoming damage and this does nothing. you can spaz out and cry about it but it won't make 3EP do nothing useful, and you're wildly overvaluing how much of a damage boost you get from crit rate. maybe you should understand the magnitude of the damage boost before shilling it.
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>>551509981
In regards to EP use, buffs are always the worst because they usually don't help you when you really need them. Like as far as what I have used EP for, drawing cards is usually at the top, damage to immediately kill something, and healing for panic buttons. Buffs just aren't as high value usually.
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>>551510527
Not my fault you don't actually understand how damage calculation works in this game. %ATK on partner is the single strongest stat in the game (well %ATK on weapons too, it's the same mod, but that's a rare mod only on the nightmare cthulu weapons). +% and increased damage are fairly low importance in comparison, especially in rift where you get +500% or something from the rearguard shill mod IIRC.
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>literal retard is saying 3* is better than 5* Partner
That's not true anymore, lil homie, they figured it out.
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>>551510607
>>551510632
>SEAniggers actually getting uppity for getting called out
What's next? You gonna ping your SEAnigger janny on d*scord to ban the bad bad anons? Kill yourself
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>>551510724
He might actually though.
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>>551510724
>SEAnigger this SEAnigger that
How about you SEA a psychiatrist for your psychosis
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>>551510680
They figured out that %ATK on partner is strong.
We're talking about s0 5* vs s4 3* which is 8%ATK vs 16%ATK, which is why the 3* is still comparable or better (for chaos).
If you have s4 Peko it's obviously better because you get +60% damage and 30% increased on top of 16% ATK. Most people aren't doing that though.
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>>551510724
i've spoken plain english and you're crying and throwing a tantrum. you're behaving like an inferior.
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>>551510827
It is not the language you compose your posts in, it is the content that betrays your low IQ, you garbage piece of shit 'human' being. You need to get killed asap
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>>551508394
That's a sexual harassment.
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>>551510724
Meds
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>>551507701
Does Yuki have the best figure of CZN? Consistent tits and ass balanced together, seems pretty rare ironically enough.
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brown hours
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>>551509760
So Peko is just better in all cases then. Yuri is pretty much only good for chaos which, any mode that isn't in that style Peko would be better.
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>>551510724
You're a high strung retard it looks. No point arguing with someone this stupid. Probably a poo.
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Very organic posts of very real players getting mad at people not wanting to roll for the new shiny limited partner lmao
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>some guy getting this angry over some dudes saying 3 star partner is comparable or even more useful to 5 star
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>>551511049
you will obey superior brahmin caste and roll for better made up numbers saar
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>>551511061
>some guy blatantly shitposting at best and being completely retarded at worst is getting called out
Yeah, it's important to correct misinformation in a game like CZN.
It's especially important to nip retarded things in the bud so that they can't spread via word of mouth.
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>>551511020
behold, the power of 25% cr.
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why does my 700atk Orlea still feel weak
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>>551510997
Chaos is like 80% of gameplay.
Yuri is also probably better for basin/simulation because of how short the fights are. I could see using Peko for challenge bosses maybe, probably not a huge difference.
s0 Peko is really just better for rift
Might change when we get new modes
Also as an extra thing, I do have s4 Peko, so I use Peko, but I've pretty much never wanted to use his ego.
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>>551510647
Nta but is the atk% you speak of somehow different than the atk% of memory fragments? Why is that?
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>>551511020
Wow... I...
I don't think I need Peko, sorry SGbros
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>>551510724
Uh oh melty
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>>551508394
Breast cancer prevention is important
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>>551511229
And on a related note, why the fuck does my 700 atk/300 def Khalipe still not do decent fucking damage
These devs are so fucking retarded
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>>551511315
%ATK from memory fragment set bonus only multiplies base atk of character
%ATK from fragment mainstat only multiplies ATK from character + partner + substats (I don't remember if it will multiply ATK added by the set bonus)
%ATK from partner and chaos equipment is a global multiplier on all ATK
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>>551511264
you type the word 'probably' a lot. you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about because you are too dumb to think for yourself and reach the right conclusion. you failed in school, you failed in life as well. you cant do shit.
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While we're having this discussion, I'd just like to remind everyone that a samefagging schizo woke up about an hour ago. He might not even believe what he's saying. He might just be saying it to say it and then agree with himself saying it by pretending to be a different person who is also saying it.
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>>551511020
>10% more damage
>as you get more morale, the usefulness of the +30% buff has lower effect
no need for peko after all
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>>551486478
Should have been six tits with six arms.
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>>551511020
A 9% damage increase for a whole ass 5* kekaroo, that is not even considering opportunity cost of Yuri's Ego skill that is a pot of greed
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should I jack off to Siu's azur sluts or Tharkica's lolis
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>>551486478
would be better if her bare feet were visible
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>>551511451
Bro you should try Magna, will make you love your bricks
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>burgerhours
>everyone agrees Peko is the best partner in the game and especially effective with Sereniel
>poos wake up
>
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>>551511465
I say probably a lot because I use a lot of qualifiers when speaking because that's just how I word things. I try not to state things as certainties most of the time (hey there's another one).
>>551511451
Defense based damage is 210% def and 30% ATK. 700 ATK 300 def is worse than 500 ATK 370 DEF. She doesn't do amazing damage anyways on ST.
>>551511546
This applies to increased damage as well. Increased damage is additive with all other increased damage, it's just scaling on the base damage of the card rather than morale which is essentially increased damage scaling on 100% base.
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Why are you so desperate to get people to roll for Peko?
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>>551511462
Very informative, thanks bro. Is this actually information available within the game? When I just scrolled through the faq I did not see any detailed math formulas at all.
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>>551511264
>never wanted to use his ego
You not only fail at percentages but also at basic biology.
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>>551510724
Waiting for your response to this, bro>>551511020
No way you actually think a 5* character + draw 2 ego is worth a 9% damage increase
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>>551511820
Nope, all stuff people have figured out from testing
>>551511546
You know I hadn't really considered this when saying Peko is better for rift.
I'm at 62% crit 83% crit damage so 25% crit is ~16% more damage, so still going to be decently more than the ~7.5% increase from Yuri having more ATK. The increases of both are going to be fairly irrelevant due to morale stacking and the rearguard shill buff you get for repeated ravage.
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>>551511748
>Defense based damage is 210% def and 30% ATK. 700 ATK 300 def is worse than 500 ATK 370 DEF.
There’s no way that’s true considering Vulture Ejection is her strongest card and you’re giving up her last potential with that stat split.
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So for those of us who got scammed with 1 copy of Peko, what do?
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>>551511020
Who's Kiara
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>>551511952
>SEAnigger refers to his SEAnigger video
Let's see you break down that math shown first.
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just how poor are you all
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Damn the schizo who accidentally blame nikker and snogger still seething?
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ok, but what if ur using the crit damage on IV slot instead? Wouldn't it just be better with the consistent 25% """free""" crit?
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>551512109
>he conceded
>he ran away
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>>551511930
retard what do I need 25% crit here for, getting the ravage in the first place when I draw badly with other egos matters more
>>551512049
In a chaos so I can't look at the numbers but it's like +10% on a skill that usually 140-200% base no? And that skill is probably only 30-40% of her damage. Not to mention defense also scales her shields. I personally prefer to invest more in defense and skip that potential.
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I forgot the image
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>>551512276
Dumbass faggot you dont need a 2 draw with Sereniel in the slightest. With how many items and combatants can cycle through the deck. Just by looking by the raw % increase it is blatantly obvious that a Peko is better than Yuri.
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>>551512439
again, this is only true in rift
in chaos it's just can you hit ravage or can't you, having a crit buff after ravage is meaningless, and being 1 card off of reaching ravage is pretty common
again picrel I barely hit ravage but if I had 1 less attack in hand then having draw 2 would have been useful, while peko would have been useless in every scenario
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Is anyone collecting New Years' cards? Here's Cassius'.
What did he mean by this?
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>seamonkeys try to argue their f2p 3 star trash with a wasted ego space
KEKAROOOO
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Which gacha game call weapon as S0?
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>>551512389
>M*ka
soulless
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>>551512049
The last potential is a bait on most characters. I have no idea why they made it that way, but even a whaled fragment set will often not be able to reach good stats and activate a character's full potential.
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>>551512632
Nta but what level of chaos are you running? I use Pekos 25% buff all the time.
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>>551512653
And here's Khalipe's.
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man, even when you try to give it a chance the story is still unreadable garbage. I can't wait for the full rewrite
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>>551512753
idk this is like an 84 mist in zero I think? need to get the exhaust shield armor
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Part 3 was still the best tho
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>>551512439
And what happens when you drew a bad hand/get status'd and dont cycle through the deck? What if I want to play Selena and use my Nia/Cass/Veronica on the 2nd team? Peko is only good for long fights like Rift, for the other 90% of the game like Chaos, Basin, Yuri would be better just for the draw 2 alone
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>>551512658
we went from
>yuri is better
to
>yuri is comparable
to
>okay yuri is less damage
to
>okay but her 2 draw
to
>okay but still
This is why you should segregate.
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This game would have been better if devs doesn't cater to incels and gooners
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>>551512891
Yeah thanks to Narja's perky tits.
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Real question, can Sereniel work with Yuki? Or is that forced and worthless?
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>>551512916
This! So much this!
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Paid shills aren't welcome here.
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>>551512991
she can work with anyone, cuz she'll just carry their ass even if they do literally nothing
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>>551512991
think for yourself
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>>551512916
I don't mind gooner shit, but I don't like when it doesn't fit at all. Nine and Maribelle's lobbies are fine, but Sereniel's is kinda shit.
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>>551512958
>thanks to Narja's perky tits.
Seeing all the negative feedback her obscene design, especially those disgusting unrealistic nipple bumps, is getting those will be gone in short time.
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>>551511020
I'm still using Serithea. She is cuter and prettier than Yuri and Peko combined.
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>>551512913
now we are at
>okay but yuri is better at shorter fights
while completely missing the point of the absolutely useless draw EGO when playing Sereniel.
>>551513046
Dont fucking roll on her. Listen to the SEAniggers and their 'math'.
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>>551512653
As a true homoGOD, I got Kayron's one.
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>>551512916
>fb_image
>>551513004
>wuwa image
Another raid
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>>551513136
That's already confirmed
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>she thinks drawing card is useless
>in a card game
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>FB_IMG
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>>551512891
I think 2 is the closest it gets to a something good, but Yuki was sexy.
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>>551513136
People are asking for the nipple bumps to be brought back though??
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>>551513392
>he hasnt been to the official forums and Discord

>where SmileGate ACTUALLY takes feedback from

OH NONONONOOO
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>>551513392
Not anymore, check the thread again normal people don't want the game to be gooner shit.
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>AI keeps using Cassius' Joker instead of actually attacking
I'm gonna build a fucking d*ck with no Joker if I keep having to see this shit
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kayron confirmed hopeCHAD
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>>551511020
does that even account the 25% crit buff?
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What planet to build Selena? Is there any weapon she can properly use compared to second method?
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>>551513460
>>551513531
Top comments of the thread on their official forum are telling them to fuck off with their censorship
You homos won't change the narrative
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>5th Orlea copy
I think my account is the most bricked ever. Who is she even good with?
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>>551513565
I love when it uses joker and then searches for a single shadow dagger instead of a draw 1 source of water. Or when it uses a heal with 10 cards in hand and 6 of those are shadow dagger.
I was still able to auto 10/10 basin with TCM left side though.
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>>551513703
That's funny because it's not up to you or some botted top comments but what their Discord ensemble of content creators and influencers has to say and they listen to actual feedback, not you.
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>>551513768
Growth acceleration on sturdie = 9 daggers. She would beat Mika if there was no hand size. You have 20 days to enjoy that.
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>>551513768
Not really anyone atm. She's fine as a healer in chaos but she doesn't really excel anywhere she's just another option.
That's why she's one of the characters explicitly getting buffed soon, and she's one of the first corruptions (alternate version with different cards/epiphanies).
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Holy fuck all but one went into crit
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>>551513885
>one of the first corruptions (alternate version with different cards/epiphanies)
What is that, and why?
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>T-THEY ONLY TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THEIR OFFICIAL FORUMS!!
>N-NEVERMIND, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY THERE!!
Guess it's bait hours
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>FB_IMG
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Am I free?
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>>551513969
It's alts you'll roll of already existing characters like Moonlight versions from SmileGate's other game Epic7.
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MAKE THE SPEED UP A TOGGLE AND ADD IT TO ALL ANIMATIONS NOT JUST DIALOGUE. I DONT NEED TO SEE MY PARTY WALKING FROM NODE TO NODE 100 TIMES EVERY CHAOS RUN IM TIRED.
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>>551513957
>4 rolls into crit
>they're all lower end rolls so it's still only 6%
I hate this system so much kill these nigger devs
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>>551514108
Yep, this shit is the worst
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>>551514030
no reroll
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>>551512916
TRVKE
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>>551513768
Adding extra hand for her summon will improve her kits, we are in the era of card spamming and her summon bloat our hand
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>>551513969
It's alternate versions of characters. Pretty common thing in gachas. You won't have to pull for them, you'll just have them if you have the character when it gets added. They showed off Hugo and Orlea concept art for it, but we won't get them until April I think?
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>>551514030
Anything but the combatants cards feels like clutter. Except maybe gear bag and strategic point with specific epiphanies
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*recharge your erection after cumming*
How does she do it
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>>551514093
It's not alt it's awakening/ascension/ retrofit/speciality change/mod3
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>>551514030
If you could replace precision aim and quick shelling for divines in those lasers, you'd be good.
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>>551514281
Felt like Quick Draw and Precision Aim replace themselves and contribute to lowering the cost of Ecstasy of Violence
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>>551514281
Quick Shelling and Precision Aim are both very good.
I'm not too sure about FEV on sereniel, but I guess Cassius probably helps knock it down to 0 pretty fast.
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>>551512653
He knows
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>>551514316
OK, cool nobody asked you, though. You also still need to roll for them.
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>peko
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>yuri (post deck shuffle)
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>yuri
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>serithea
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>>551513768
I used her to replace the ugly nerd last rift. You can also do Beryl or softie vuln spam builds. There's no vulnerable spammer that can keep up with any of the big damage dealers, but she comes the closest.
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>>551514612
I accept your conceded
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>>551514612
They could obviously change it but in the roadmap they said it's just something you enable on existing characters once it's added for the character. It's not a separate version you pull for.
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>>551514238
It's a special breakdown effect they get in that special mode where sanity carries over through battles
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>>551514826
that's good shit, glad they're doing it like this
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>>551514826
>they said
Uhuh, they also said
>no nerfs
>no limiteds
How'd that turn out?
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>>551515178
y-you weren't supposed to.....
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>anime avatar doomnigger posting without xer anime avatar
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>>551514826
Why did they pick Hugo out of everyone...
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>>551515337
knot will be top tier and you'll like it
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>>551515337
>wanting to appeal to the furry/Megalia audience
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>>551515337
white women play this game
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>>551515374
Not white but whats up with the chuubas being obsessed with it, is it because it's SORTA a Shadowverse adjacent and Shadowverse is like a national sport there
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>>551515292
How do you know it's him???
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>>551515102
nope
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>>551515616
Oh, that's actually pretty interesting
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>>551515337
KnotGOD game, simple as
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>>551515616
Do you really trust them not to majorly fuck it up?
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>>551515704
Everything that has been fucked up so far is only story/gacha related stuff. All of the gameplay stuff has only improved every patch (and quite quickly too) with more good shit on the roadmap. I do actually trust them to add good stuff if it's gameplay related.
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>>551515704
They haven't lied to us yet.
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>>551515840
nyooo.. you can't say that to a doomNIGGER
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>peko retards saying draw 2 is never useful
I actually might just use Yuri in chaos even though I have s4 peko
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>>551515840
gameplayCHAD
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>>551514306
If Sereniel single-handedly unbricked the bnuuy, there's still hope for Amir!
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>>551515907
we HOPE here
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>>551515704
As long as the new mindbreaks are good I'll be happy
And the Orlea one they showed is pretty good
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>>551515840
>>551515907
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>551512916
YAAAAAAAAAAAS XISTER SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>551515840
>All of the gameplay stuff has only improved every patch
One of the biggest gameplay contents, lab 0, was made as a strict downgrade to normal chaos, only got slightly better because everyone complained and then SG nerfed it again while giving up on it and just letting you farm other chaos.
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>>551515840
>All of the gameplay stuff has only improved every patch
least obvious SlimeGook shill ITT
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just tested this Homing Laser, and like one anon said you get 3 draws every turn, should be pretty good with the Cobalt light that let you hit for every Homing, wonder what divine can get
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>>551516029
pekoniggers are defending their <(70x160) crystals they threw into the garbage for no measurable benefit
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>>551516029
>I have s4 peko
Post it
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>>551514306
with her finger sticking up your arse
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>>551515840
DoomJEETS OBLITERATED FROM ORBIT
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I'm using Yuri because that leaves me more rolls for torpedo tits.
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>>551516029
It's useless because you're supposed to remove all the unnecessary shit from your decks. If you need drawing power, your decks are subpar and filled with too much unnecessary shit.
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card gaming GODS run this general
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>>551516208
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>>551516398
AYYYYYEEEEEE
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>>551516398
>Yvonne
Bwo...
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>>551516365
>If you need drawing power, your decks are subpar and filled with too much unnecessary shit.
That's not even room temperature IQ. This shit right here is absolute zero IQ.
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>>551515840
the speed up is still shitty. Bandaid solution if they dont improve on it it sucks
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>>551515840
HOPEGODS HOW THE FUCK IS IT LEGAL TO BE EATING THIS FUCKING GOOD??!?!?!

HOOLLY SHIT DOOMSISSIES ETERNALLY BTFO!!!

HOPEGODS RULE THESE LANDS!!!
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>>551516398
>no uid
>no hand
>no timestamp
that sure is you bro
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>>551516029
Come on bro, this is right at the start of the run before you remove your cards. These could even be at 1hp if you picked a different blessing
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>>551516503
This is true, I'm guessing they will improve it though.
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>>551515616
Can't wait to double the deck grinding and epiphany rngbs experience.
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>>551516029
>Has 2 useless bricks not at all needed for Lab 0 clogging up his deck
>Complains about needing draw power
So that's what it is, Yurijeets are just fucking retarded
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Pain Peko
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>>551516469
Nta, but what's the problem? Yvonne is crazy good for Mika, doubly so in Chaos.
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>>551516551
>t. gachatard touristfag
wuwigger raiders OUT! GET OUT!
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>>551516610
If you're in Chaos, Arwen is better and since he rolled for a P4 Peko, he surely has a maxed out Arwen too.
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>>551516586
>could've been a triple random convert in the exterior
>looks at enemy hp
>less than 900
uh...
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>>551516398
Delete this sir why you keep destroying my narrative please do the needful
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>>551516610
>Yvonne is crazy good for Mika, doubly so in Chaos.
>tell me you dont play the game without telling me
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>>551516610
Healing as rarely ever been a problem for me in chaos. Would rather use Nyx over that.
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>>551516682
Arwen has passive damage mitigation while Yvonne has passive healing. The difference isn't big.
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guys this thread has too many story lines, branches and narratives I cannot follow anymore
WHO IS WINNING?
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>>551516029
>conveniently crops out the EP count
top kek
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>>551516875
>>551516875
>>551516875
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>>551516840
Me, I am winning.
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>>551516840
mei lin sure isn't. she's getting the same bullet to the back of head as tressa and cassius.
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>>551516664
>dev says it will revamp your character skills
>thinking it won't end up with extra deckgrinding
Stop being a nigger.
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>>551516730
You just hate Yvonne because she has big tits, fagtron.
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>>551516517
I can scroll the text, it's either me or someone I know right?
>>551516698
Exactly this, I took a convert Kyrken and then triple convert fate.
>>551516682
Idk I haven't checked but I just assumed that Yvonne healing will reduce stress if I'm missing HP (I take gangrene a lot) so that's why I run her.
Arwen is ok and I do have him but I find him kinda underwhelming since his DR is only for a single hit. He feels more niche like something I would use for a specific savedata boss.
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>>551515337
You might as well put the furry in early so people would complain less than if he got the corrupted version later which will probably powercreep some unit.
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This button is fucking garbage. Why is the concept of skipping so hard for these devs to comprehend?



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