>servitor editionPreviously in /coopg/: >>551416505>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Leave your mental illness in the old thread
Darktide bad
>>551611690You first, dishonest ragebaiting faggot.
>>551611910It's exactly the type of people who get mad after reading that post who need to keep their mental illness in check
Darktide has been there for me more than anyone or anything else in this world.
>>551612468You're in an abusive relationship
>Heres your new class bro
>>551611910lil bro feeling called out
>>551611560my little pre-servitor
>first post of the thread is the troon of course to instantly make a shitpost
>>551611560Is Phasmaphobia accepted?
>>551612714This is exactly what you were told to leave behind
>>551612786It's purely co-op, right? I don't see why not. People just primarily talk about darktide, with a side of vermintide autists baiting darktide posters but never actually discussing their game for some inexplicable reason.Post entertaining webms to win favor.
any news dropping out for darktide?
>>551612786dont they have their own thread
>>551612613Is this an assassin?
Is Event Horizon still the best representation of what happens when you travel through the Warp without a Gellar Field?
>>551613232Assassin? More like In ass-ass!
qt
For various reasons I stopped playing right before arbitrator and then just never came back.Thought about returning while on hollidays, but there are two new classes now. And tvtropes said that both of them have very high skill floorBut the fact that arbitrator's dog can save you from being pinned down by hounds sounds nice.How much more skill you need to properly play as two new classes compared to original 4?
>>551613617cool story
>>551613617Arbi has the lowest skill floor of any class in the game
>>551612468That's actually really sad. May I suggest trying to work on your judgement of character?>>551612945>for some inexplicable reasonSame reason as DRG, game's old enough that there's nothing new to talk about. Even Darktide discussion has slowed a little since everyone's maxed hiv cum.
>>551613617hmm ok rather the previous shitposting we had than this weak bait
>>551613587Still been meaning to read this series, any anons tried it, is it good?
>>551611356Pickaxe ogryns on suicide watch.>all_time_highDoes fatshark even use it anymore? I wouldn't be surprised if it got axed sometime soon (swedish definition of "soon").>"metasissy" nonsenseI don't get it, are you mocking tryhards? But this is a non-tryhard filter list?Shredder frags are fine (outside of rotten armor).Serrated blade is fine (with a mercy killer knife).Weapons specialist is fine (with a bleed shotgun).Hell, all of your grievances with the vet are situational at best.>Am I missing anything?You should add wound curios to the filter (excluding martyrdom zealot, obviously).
>>551613830*Including martyrdom zealot, obviously
>>551613432You don't get out if you get in without a gellar field.
>>551613902BASEDt. Pietygäng
>>551613432Mutation, possession, madness, death, yep pretty much.>>551613985No one got out in the movie, the whole crew was dead when the ship popped back out of hell.
It is fun knowing I got my true survivor, meaning I no longer need to play the gamemode and I don't need to interact with the people within it.
>>551614578Most importantly they don't have to interact with you
>>551614578Bizarre attitude if it's genuine. I'm the opposite and feel this is the healthier choice. I play havocs primarily as it's much more fun, and people actually treat it like a co-op game, unlike the zoo non-havocs are. I don't give a shit for titles/frames etc and never used a title until I got Havoc-Forged just to help me with lobbies (host or join). You went out of your way to grind for a title for and from a mode you never had interest in (outside of said title)? Weird.
>make a weapon>make a slightly different looking one>give it a shitty swing pattern and lower damageThanks obesefish
>>551615051
>>551615051I think fatshark is reducing the number of marks for new weapons down to 1 or 2 because they always ended up making one bad mark that no one uses
>>551613830>Pickaxe ogryns on suicide watch.Unfortunately true. Pickaxe has been pushed out of the meta by the armored enemy HP buffs, no longer one-shotting relevant targets is terrible. I also never accepted pickaxe ogryns in the first place, Skullcrusher is far too valuable to give up.>>all_time_high>Does fatshark even use it anymore?Yes, both havoc stats work. At least the backend uses it. Truelevel normally only shows one, but I've hacked that to show both.>I don't get it, are you mocking tryhards? But this is a non-tryhard filter list?Plasma/dsword is the most known build and the only players that use it are terrible at the game and think it's some GIGA OP CRUTCH 100% WIN RATE build, but they don't know how to play.>Shredder frags are fine (outside of rotten armor).I disagree entirely. They don't contribute anything meaningful, because you never bring a vet to solve horde clear. Not the vet's job. I never want mine to have frags in 40.>Serrated blade is fine (with a mercy killer knife).Good point. I'll make it a special clause to allow knives.>Weapons specialist is fine (with a bleed shotgun).That's literally the only exception, but you are right, I'll make that a special clause as well.>You should add wound curios to the filter Yeah, I just wrote down>Wounds clause: If Martyrdom, must have Faith's Fortitude (+2 wounds) and at least 2 wound curios>Crit aura clause: If Blazing Piety, must have Infectious Zeal (+10% crit aura)This is probably a scalding hot take, but I unironically think having +1 wound is actually fine. Most players at 40 already maximize revive speed, which I KNOW also helps assist speed, but un-netting someone a picosecond faster isn't what makes it worth taking, it's reviving someone faster. I don't mind bringing a psyker or scum with +1 wound. Missing out on +17% toughness will never protect you from the things that already erase your health bar.
>>551609997Deimos force sword (the small one) with warp resistance dump so you can run at gunners slightly faster with sprintInfernus stafftoss knives or m1 infernus into crowds or stray gunners so that you can get your crit going on and get closer to gunners, you can stay out in the open for a rather absurd amount of time if you critstack properly. With scriers I honestly feel like FGS is a dps loss compared to deimos if you're willing to put up with its clunky combo. (L1 H1 then QQ or block to reset its combo, blocking is slower but easier) as well as the mobility loss being pretty painful in havoc where all it takes is a single hard nudge to make things spiral. Although if you don't want to put up with the gay combo, then FGS can be fine. Scriers is pretty selfish especially when your only utility contribution is a fuckload of damage, and suppression on your infernus so don't be surprised if you get rejected by people not into funruns. I typically only really run it on my own assignment so if people take issue with it, they can go find another H40 lobby. I wouldn't recommend taking it on wide open maps with a team with a team composition of really poor ranged classes or weapons for obvious reasons, but it does amazing on tight knit maps like hab dreyko even with a poor ranged setup. Psyker already does a billion damage with staff, this is just doing a billion damage with your sword against armor packs and monsters way faster, so it's arguably just a fun run setup.
>>551616153Now filter players who haven't spent 30 skill points
>>551616316fucking kekadded to the list
>>551616316Hold the fuck up, that happens?!
>>551616465Yeah, you seen a fuck load of it (even havocs) with the latest big patch (hiv cum release) as it reset everybody. Even a week after, I seen it often.t. inspectCHAD
>>551616465It's mostly a phenomenon caused by fagshart's incompetence causing skill tree wipes (they seem to finally have fixed that with the most recent patch actually, but wiped builds remain wiped) and retards who never double check their shit, and are too dumb to notice.
>>551616316>arguing about fringe cases>anon shows up with a steel chair
>>551616316As well as keystoneless builds. I still see a ton of vets that are thinking it's still 2022 applying to my lobbies.
>>551616724I hate this shit. They're always RIGHT NEXT TO A KEYSTONEJust pick one, faggot! Even if the ping one is too much effort for you, pick either of the no-effort ones then. So many HIV Cum don't use a keystone either and every time they're right next to two (usually two, rarely 1 or 3) of them.
>>551616724What keystone are toxic scum with no custom stimm supposed to take?
>>551617054Take a hike
>>551617054Does VM (not VD) trigger on needler kills?If not, Adrenaline Frenzy is right there. Everyone takes the node right above it.
>>551617095
>>551615051>give it a shitty swing pattern and lower damageIt's the moonlight greatsword. I want light sweep with heavy jabs.
>>551617054>no custom stimmFor what purpose?
>>551617451Probably doing healing stimm crate memes
>>551617451To affect everybody with normal stimms.
>>551617410just off the top of my head there's the shivs and the power falchion
>>551611356Made some changes to the dev notes.All of these are just notes, it's not actually in development yet. I'll see if/when I want to actually channel my autism into being productive, and whether I dare to release it even here.I actually kinda feel like this may be a "we can't have nice things" situation, because stuckies and shitters are fucking LOUD. I imagine plebbit and possibly the official forums would have a massive meltdown over it if it's ever released and they ever catch wind of its existence, which may in turn put more pressure on fatshark to kill modding like the wallhack cheat already did. I like my QoL mods too much to want that.
>>551614708It's not bizarre.Only thing I like about havoc is the enemy density and horde sizes, it should be like that in havoc too.Rest of the shit that exist in havoc is not interesting or worth my time simply because it is anti-fun by design, ie. 90% of the weapons are useless in it.And at the same time I don't care to waste 30-40 minutes in the party finder filtering people or applying to other's games. In that time I could have have ran 1 or 2 auric games, which are more fun than having to sit around doing nothing.
>>551617787>it should be like that in havoc too.*auricBrainfarded and shidded
>>551617773If you want to limit the amount of calls and save yourself the headache of finding a way to check who the "host" is, make a new button next to accept/decline that'll run the check.
>>551617787>auric games, which are more funNTA. In my experience, high havoc lobbies tend to stick together. During reset week, 30-40 climbs will usually stick together if you keep winning. After the regulars finished their climb, 40s tend to still stay together. 30-40 minutes is exaggerated and probably only applies to the lower levels. I don't usually take longer than 10 minutes to fill a 40 unless it's during witching hour, and then I can always just change server if I'm okay with having 200 ping. I agree with your other points on why auric > havoc, but I also agree with >>551614708 that aurics are a fucking zoo. I get so many sub-humans in auric maelstroms that would look out of place even in damnation. It's a breath of fresh air when an auric player is even remotely competent, and then a miracle when they actually cooperate. Co-op is a complete necessity in high havoc. Aurics unfortunately feel like single player most of the time, and it pisses me off.
>>551618070Noted:>Instead of automating it, maybe add a UI button or keybind that runs it manually for all current applications.>Consider making it a toggle that automatically runs it every X seconds>Terminate all checks when the party is full; the party finder has some logic that does that, otherwise check for party player count.I'll consider writing down any more (You)s that you guys might have, but I still can't promise I'll deliver. May be silent for a while, have chores to do.
>>551618469No interest in accepting skullcrusher arbites?
>>551618667They're not blacklisted, but I don't see a reason to whitelist them either. Both class exclusive mauls tend to perform better in general, and if you specifically want a Skullcrusher arbites, you can manually filter through the small handful that still remain after Soulguilt and TtW filters out like 70% of them.
I've never played Havoc before, should I just apply to random lobbies?
>>551618773>TtWTermimus Warrant?
>>551618993Run your own.
>>551618993To run your own lobbies you need to use mods, otherwise it is unusable.
It's weird that Hadron doesn't have any mortis trial memories. She must be doing something to keep Sefoni out of her head, but she's not a magos psykana.
>>551617787>>551618159The shitter trenches are honestly a lot of fun. Fatshark should make a matchmaking page (like old auric) that's h25 with maelstrom modifiers and call it mortis or something.
>>551619943Clearly not that fun when people are talking about designing a mod that skips all shitters.
>>551620651Oh boy, here comes the "get good" or "they got carried" or "too shit to carry others" etc.
>>551619846don't worry, we will get her memory echoes half a year after we get red crafting, and all of them will pertain to red crafting as if it's a new, big revealthe gears of fatshark's clock turn ever slowly
>>551619846>>551620813We're getting it with the admech class release. Trust the plan
>>551620926*half a year after the admech class comes outalso we'll get some intercepted vox youtube videos that tease the class eight months after
>>551620774I mean, where's the lie?
>>551620651Anonymous is just very shy and willing to go to extreme lengths to avoid making friends to play with
>>551613617bumpJust tried hivescum, and yeah he's kinda difficultLet's see how guy with dog plays, maybe melee would be more of my thing
>>551619006Target the Weak.Picrel's constellation. The absolute, bare minimum that any build that wants to call itself good must bring, because it includes all of the most cost effective talents.The only reason you wouldn't take picrel is because you're some Castigator's Stance ranged build, which is dogshit because it uses Castigator's Stance lol.
>>551613617>both of them have very high skill floorArbitrator is piss easy. The dog is unironically better than many players. You can take every dog talent and have a build that is at least "okay" because the dog will play the game for you. It's obviously not optimal, but it really does just work lol.>How much more skill you need to properly play as two new classes compared to original 4?Arbitrator may be the easiest, hive scum is... about on par with pre-rework psyker. I think psyker is a lot easier after the rework (god damn are you fucking tanky with the right talents) so I think scum may be a little harder. Can still be built to be a little braindead with ranged BRRRT spam, but if your fundamentals are lacking you will just eat shit.>>551621295>Let's see how guy with dog plays, maybe melee would be more of my thingPiggy is about as unga bunga melee as it gets. Real easy, real comfy, extremely overpowered in the babby difficulties, still a king-tier class in aurics, and remains relevant in havoc 40.
Best blessing for shovel against carapace after uncanny?
>>551621951why would you need more? Decimator I guess
>>551621951Technically Skullcrusher, if you whack them with 2 lights after yelling CADIA real loud. Otherwise Decimator.
>>551621951>>551622037Oh and Thrust, with the folding shovels, but I assume you already knew that and ruled it out, because I assume you're using the non-folding one.
Which two of Confident Strike, Hammerblow and Opportunist should you take on maul and shield?
>>551622196Opportunist (with Concussive talent) because it's necessary against crushers.You actually want High Voltage for your second blessing for damage, but if I had to choose between Hammerblow and Confident Strike, it's Confident Strike. The weapon itself has enough impact, and you can go into Forceful for even more.
Maul + ShieldI recommend against confident strike as a blanket across all weapons and all classes. Exception being if you're new/low difficulties.
>>551622319Does High Voltage only work in conjunction with the shock mines or does it deal its own electrical damage? It has the sound effect, but I thought that was just cosmetic.
Weapons specialist is kino on the plasmagun doeeverbeit
>>551622483>doeeverbeitand your zoomerspeak abusing basic language isn't kino
>>551622006Was looking for a weapon with safer horde clear and better mobility in a ranged focused build and detoxing from the powersword has me fucked up>>551622037>>551622106Didn't even consider the folding shovels those might be the choice
>>551622421Unyielding is real good, especially in havoc where you can't afford to use your gun just to kill bulwarks or spam half your reserves into monsters, but I prefer flak in auric. You can just shoot unyielding enemies with your shotgun/bolter/bistol and they eat shit.>>551622467>Does High Voltage only work in conjunction with the shock minesDon't know, would have to check the source code. Intuition says yes, my knowledge of Sw*dish spaghetti (and meatballs) code says probably not.Doesn't matter, "shocked" is the zappy particles on an enemy, and I believe heavy attacks practically force that. It's effectively a permanent 25% damage boost fwiw.
>>551622483Just reload during downtime, it'll save you two to four points.
>>551622513Thoughbeit and thougheverbeit are some of the funniest 4channel dot org isms in years thoughbeit
>>551622624WS plasma is fucking awesome in auric, so I get it. Played it a lot. It's fun, it's effective, no marks.I've yet to meet a single good player use that in havoc, all of them are turbo shitters and get the DECLINED button before I even bother to check the rest of their build.This is PURELY a player behavior issue. The build itself is fine lol. I'm picky and would prefer piss tag because it helps annihilate bosses before they become a problem, but it's not strictly mandatory if you just bring a Skullcrusher user.
>>551622467>>551622563stat buff: damage_vs_electrocutedAgainst enemies who are under the effect of electrocution, increases any damage (see values below) including explosions and DoTs while the weapon is wielded; stacks additively with other damage buffs, and multiplicatively with power level buffs.Electrocution can be applied by:Source SpecificsArbites Shock Maul • regular attacks and weapon special attacks: if the attack staggers the target and has an armor damage modifier against the attacked hit zone greater than 0.6Exterminator Shotgun Mk III • weapon special: on shock shell hitElektrokinetic Staff • secondary attack: on hitShock Mauls • regular attacks: if the attack staggers the target and has an armor damage modifier against the attacked hit zone greater than 0.6• weapon special: on hitShock Mauls & Shield • regular attacks: if the attack staggers the target and has an armor damage modifier against the attacked hit zone greater than 0.6Enervating Threshold • Psyker talent: on shield staggerLightning Reflexes • weapon blessing: on perfect blockOverwhelming Force • weapon blessing: on hit if the attack staggers the target and has an armor damage modifier against the attacked hit zone greater than 0.6Remote Detonation • Arbitrator Blitz abilitySmite • Psyker combat ability• Charged Strike: on heavy attackStunstorm Grenade • Zealot Blitz abilityVoltaic Mandibles Augment • Arbitrator talent: on Cyber-Mastiff attackVoltaic Shock Mine • Arbitrator Blitz ability
>>551622846Thanks
>>551622846You were right, free +25% damage.
>>551622467You take high voltage on both shield + maul and the regular arby maul because it is just free +25% damage all the time.
Does rending effect the electrocution DoT thing?
>>551622527One of the folding shovels is basically irredeemable because it has the worst of everything. Moveset is especially awkward and the special attack does notably less damage so it comes out faster.The other is basically all crowd control with a very strong special attack. Low damage makes uncanny less useful unless you want to do a funny and whip out a huge damage number using Thrust and even 1-tap a crusher under certain circumstances.I myself defaulted back to non-folding shovel because it's all around more versatile. Light attacks perfect for unanny, heavy attacks perfect for crowd control, and the special jab will stun pretty much everything except I believe monstrosities.
>>551623723One of the foldies has a strikedown pushattack that does surprisingly high damage, enough to ohk mutants. Couldn't tell you which one though, it's been ages since I've given any thought to that garbage.
>>551622527Power sword, ds4, knife, rashad. If it's not on the list, you'll want to slit your wrist.
hammerblow or opportunist on the shield maul? With opportunist I feel like I don't always get enough bangs for my bucks
>>551613617Arbi is the easiest class in the game.Scum is the hardest, but not THAT hard.
>>551623667that's a great question
>>551623667rending is global so yesnow whether or not it does much is a different question
Does anyone even like those ults that are just>buff yourself for a durationbecause I think they're lame as fuck and immediately boil down into a math equation of uptime vs stat gains
>>551625720Still Opportunist because nothing else remotely comes close to the amount of damage you can deal to crushers. If you feel like your damage is lacking against everything else, put flak as your second perk after carapace.If you're STILL lacking damage, do picrel (this usually paths to True Grit, and then often to Forceful, but Execution Order is also good).If you're in need of stagger, Lone Wolf with either grenade is strong, BTL is the strongest ability up to havoc (where Nuncio becomes viable, but BTL remains very competitive), dog is unironically really good at it if you actually take Voltaic Mandibles like you're fucking SUPPOSED TO, and Forceful gives you loads of impact as well. Virtually every good build even takes +25% impact just pathing down to Nuncio or BTL.
>>551626281do you have a full build. Going to the three paths is gonna be costly for the rest
>>551626250Depends on the buff and what else it might do. I'm actually a big fan of Desperado, even though it technically counts as such. On-demand reload is surprisingly useful even with the long cooldown (between forced reloads, since you can't do it again while it's active for half a fucking minute), and projectile immunity is REALLY good for getting undeserved revives off and doing objectives.I don't think uptime and CDR management matter that much for it.
>>551625720see>>551622421Deja vu.
>>551626518meant the full tree
>>551626417Shield maul, penetration dump (mostly inconsequential damage loss against crushers; all other stats are vital except defenses, but that makes your pushes and blocks better, but if you have autism and insist that you must dump defenses, that's also fine), carapace, flak (or unyielding, to taste), High Voltage, OpportunistStun shotgun, unyielding, flak (both non-negotiable), Scattershot (for clearing hallways), Full Bore (for bosses; both blessings have different purposes, other blessings aren't nearly as good or non-competitive)1 health curio because of True Grit, 2 toughness; I'm a huge fan of max flamer resist and max gunner resist, with 2 revive speed and 1 bomber resist. This is a weird setup that many won't like. Flamers are kind of the only thing that truly threaten my health so I run max resist and just shrug them off.I don't think BTL ever needs the full cooldown reduction when it's most useful for bailing your retards out of overheads or charging mutants, and that should happen very rarely when you can flashbang to solve the former problem.This makes concessions to take Forceful's stun immunity for objectives in auric, and also dog bleed. You CAN skip those, max out BTL, take cooldown curios, and build into Arbites Vigilant for EXTREMELY FAT-COCKED DAMAGE. I just prefer absolute stability because auriclets are fucking animals and not dying and shrugging off trash while doing objectives takes precedent over killing everything, which arbitrator does well enough baseline anyway.
>>551626768>reload speed auraThat's a first.
>>551626768Oh right, I forgot: Stability dump on the shotgun, because the shield has atrocious sprint, so mobility is worthwhile on the shotgun (why the fuck do you need your single shot gun that can't snipe to be stable?)>>551626980It's there for the shotgun. Reloading it faster is a huge DPS gain. No, the right side talents and the +10% damage vs staggered aura aren't actually that big of a damage gain, just do BTL + AV if you are chasing pure, raw melee DPS numbers. The shotgun (with Forceful cleave) is probably the single most powerful scoreboard padding gun in auric, it absolutely BEAMS entire hallways and (shot)gunner clowncars, it's truly unethical, and making it more powerful is fucking great. Whether you deal more melee or more ranged damage is up to you, this build does both excellently.
>>551626768>not taking +75% cleave on pushIt works perfectly for the shield since the mk6 follow-up push attack a horizontal sweep.
>>551627184Correct, except the push already hits everything and knocks them on their ass with the stupid amounts of impact the shield and build have, so you don't need more cleave on your attack. You very quickly hit the damage cap anyway, so cleave is only really useful for impact, which is already solved. The horizontal (push attack or heavy into light, repeat) horde clear combo never, ever needs more cleave. I run absolutely zero cleave on a (very different) havoc build and I never struggle even with the added hitmass in havoc.
I just can't get used to aquilla on arbitrator. I've tried, but it doesn't feel like it's doing shit and it's such a small radius. Meanwhile BtL always works and is very satisfying while still being good (and at such a low cooldown). Perhaps I should give it yet another (!) try. EO and Forceful I do flip-flop on. Been sticking with BO lately but I do miss Forceful. For Havocs, this all is, but with Forceful the only subnode I took is the +cleave one (on the right). The stun immunity for non-havocs sounds amusing too.
>>551626768why not strike down
>>551627573>why not strike downToo small damage gains for the point investment. I experimented a lot with Confident Strike blessing + Strikedown, vs Opportunist and saving the point. Taking both only yields damage gains against crushers which already die just about quickly enough. It's not a bad talent, it just does less than dog bleed does. It adds up to over 100k+ damage in games with enough enemy density, and ~60k on the low end. 15% rending won't squeeze out that much, and BTL + stagger spam already takes care of crushers.>>551627519Nuncio's usefulness is a positioning check. For hordes, you want to place it either in front of, or directly behind, natural chokes. Put it where you expect enemies to bunch up while you're fighting. It's pretty bad as a "discount bubble" safe zone, think of it more as a thunder dome in which you expect to fight the enemies. It's useful for the damage/speed buffs.For bosses, look and see who gets aggro, hope they're smart enough to park their ass against a wall, and drop Nuncio on them. Ideally you want to be the one to take aggro, but that's difficult to force at times. You can save it for when the ogryn/veteran/zealot do their stun combo on the boss and then throw it out. It's great against human bosses because they're trivial to hold in one spot. The added revive speed is really nice in havoc.>The stun immunity for non-havocsis kind of the main reason to even use it in auric. The cleave is obviously insane on the shotgun, but I think EO is better overall. I only use it for the stun immunity to be able to force objectives when quickplaylets just completely fucking ignore them, and would continue to ignore them until they wipe, if I don't do them.
>>551627912eh ok am gonna test it even tho I fucking loathe the shotgun probably gonna pick lone wolf tho. Dog is too much micromanaging for me
>>551628116The skeleton of the build is perfectly serviceable even if you drop everything dog related to use with LW, where you likely want BTL-maxxing with Arbites Vigilant and achieve the highest possible damage output. You might even have enough points to path through melee aura anyway, if you don't like the shotgun. Bolt pistol is a good replacement. Bolter is fine too, but I recommend nades over shock mines with that for a quick stun and also killing specials without having to swap.
>>551628246ended up with something like this. I must say the bottom right path with the crit weak spot boosts is bonker. I'll probably drop the shotgun, I consider my gun a mean of exclusively shooting trappers flamers and snipers
>>551628481>trappers flamers and snipersYeah, that's what I usually use the dog for. Shotgun is okay against flamers, but unimpressive against many disablers. The idea with the dog build is that I can use the shotgun to just kill everything, but if you're doing a more melee focused build, especially with LW, shotgun loses a lot of value.You can probably tweak that build, path through melee aura instead, lose the stun immunity, and max out BTL with 3x4% cooldown reduction so you can get more uptime on Arbites Vigilant and really stack damage buffs. The damage output you can achieve with the big maul is fucking crazy when you do that.
>>551628842probably gonna try that thanks, I still don't know if shaving a few seconds off BTL is worth losing the stun immunity. I guess if I need stun immunity shit has already hit the fans anyway. Testing the lethal proximity blessing on bolt pistol, it seems it doesn't boost the grenades when you hold them
When do you typically use arbite grenade? Shock mines are obvious and braindead in use. I prefer the grenade, but I can't pin-point in text or verbalise why. Maybe that it's versatile. Sometimes I throw it at a set of gunners/shooters, but not always. Sometimes at a teammate that's swarmed, but not always, sometimes at bulwarks, but not always.
>>551629072Stun immunity is mostly useful for preserving slow-ish melee combos while being hit by trash, and tanking through trash while doing hacking puzzles because pubniggers will never, ever, ever help you. Shock mines completely solve that problem if you opt to use those instead.BTL-maxxing is mostly for the damage buff. BTL itself gives damage, Arbites Vigilant needs you to spam your ability and also gives a ton of damage. The knockdown spam is obviously also good, but that depends on enemy density, and I don't think it's that important anyway, but others will disagree and say it's incredible. Either way, CDR on BTL is good, with that specific type of build.Lethal Proximity should buff all of your explosives, even if you have the gun holstered.>>551629112>When do you typically use arbite grenade?Most importantly, to buy space. Think of it like a portable vet shout. Stun (or outright kill) ragers, buy space to pull out your bolter, save someone from eating an overhead or doing an objective while you're far away.You can also spam them through Rolling Steel to fucking kill everything in your path save for crushers.They're also great, again with the boltgun, for quickly killing a disabler that would take too long to swap to your gun.Also in general, you use them with Lone Wolf in aurics. Shock mines have no place in auric, except for maybe armor spam maelstroms. They'll only ever help you do objectives, which Forceful's stun immunity does better. If you need shock mines in auric to survive, you need to learn to play better instead.
I still can't believe noncio shitquila is just a shitty little barely audible anonymous voice being broadcast out of an even shittier little AoE buff zone.The trailer made it seem like your character's voice would broadcast from them. I want to hear my space cop deliver a "I AM THE LEX" speech every time I use the ability. It should've caused map wide suppression.>line of shooters ahead>duck behind cover>send out your intimidation drone>they all start running away, deeper into the mapfuck sweden for making it what it is
>>551631106It's funny how good BtL is in this regard. It's so loud and crunchy. The yelling of the Arbitrator, and the smashing of metal.
>>551631106Yeah they miss the mark on most abilities on what actually feels good. You wanna know the funniest part about nuncio aquila btw? The voicelines it play aren't the same length as the duration of the ability. They just cut off in the middle of a sentence when it ends. Truly amazing attention to detail
>>55163158212.99 please, small indie company
>>551631106>>551631582>ATTENTION, BLOCK FODDER:>ooweewoo, ur um.... le gay.>ooweewoo, heretics ... ACK!! *ability ends*I actually think they're usually pretty on point with the sound design, but Nuncio feels fucking AWFUL to use lmao. You'd think the arbitrator would just loudly yell lex-approved slurs in the mic, but no, it's just some lame, too quiet pre-recorded voice with the same 4 boring lines that also cut off lol
>>551631231BTL in general is so much better.>hmmm do I want to throw everything except bosses on the ground every 7 seconds, keeping them stunlocked and helpless forever making a non-threat and much easier to killor>do i want a discount psyker buble with a 60 second cooldown that only gives slight stat buffs that are confined only to a 7.5 meter radius
>>551632182>only gives slight stat buffsSome 26%-ish team-wide effective DPS increase is hardly a "slight stat buff", it's a pretty big number, on top of the defensive benefits. It's just completely useless dogshit outside of havoc, where retards likely won't even know what the thing even does, and enemy density isn't quite enough to warrant bringing that. Also being a force multiplier to a force of 0 still nets 0.It's pretty good at gang raping human bosses, for example. Less important with Skullcrusher, and ogryn is still better for raw damage buffing, but Nuncio has other benefits. Solid side-grade to BTL, you just have to give it a chance and get past the learning curve. BTL basically has none lol.
>>551632419>where retards likely won't even know what the thing even doesI have no idea how either the Hiv Cummer's stim packs work other than to just use it or how the Arby's little robot thing work other than to use it. Or stand in it. Surely it's helping. Surely.
>>551632419>learning curveYou shot your otherwise okay post in the ass with that. What in tarnation, anon.
>>551632419The attack speed isn't enough to warrant using it.I'll take BTL because it is more defensive than nonsense aquila because you keep everything staggered and helpless with it.
>>551632542>I have no idea how either the Hiv Cummer's stim packs workcurrently, via exploitsafterwards, not at all, solidly in noncio shitquila territory
>>551632593It's okay anon, maybe you'll grow up and git gud eventually. Until then, keep telling yourself that arbitrator somehow needs BTL to keep everything staggered when half your arsenal already does that. I'll be in havoc 40 putting down my rape zone for the team to instagib captains before they can even fucking stand up after their shield pops.
(you)
Been sick all Christmas anything new
>>551633009I am still hardstuck inside anon's mom, no hope in sight
>>551633009Scoreboard autists had several-day-long meltdowns, darktide servers are still shit, uhh... get well soon if you haven't already idk.>>551633086Confirmed, he's stuck inside my mom
>>551633141It's fine got a stomach virus but I've mostly overcame the lethargy by now and I'm able to be up and about again
Don't care about stun resist still taking rebreather fuck tox bombers
>>551622651Where did it come from?
>>551632946oooh free (You)? I claim it!
>>551622651>>551634549It came from sharty
>>551632726>ablooblooI will get better, and you will still be retarded.
>>551632593>>551632726they're both good you fucking faggots now drop your pants and let me watch as you suck each other off
>>551635291Sounds like you should be sucking them off to soothe their temper
The suck that killed /coopg/
>>551633501>>551633009why do you always post this shit like anyone cares about whether or not you had the flu? tell your friends
>>551637043>tell your friendsHe just did, anon, he just did
Just finished masturbating apeshit style, ama
>>551637373Is apeshit a good lube and how did you get your hands on it?
Telopots was right about /coopg/
Sesbian Lex between female mauls and female savants
everyday a new captcha>>551637639telepots x tranner sextape when
I just saw an ogryn activate the button to the cryonic rod event before the lift got all the way down. Probably the fastest cryonic rod clear i have ever had
>>551641813I don't really get it, isn't that button halfway across the room? You mean on the repair mission with th3 rods you have to slot into the outer ring right?
>>551642457Yes
People aren't gonna bitch and moan at me if I have a sub-optimal build while trying to fill Penance progress bars in Heresy, right? I'm new and getting pulled in different directions (get used to higher difficulties, experiment with new builds, max out weapon masteries, fill the penance progress bars).My dudes are all Lv30 and Malice has gotten too comfortable, so I think Heresy story missions is my next step towards gittin' gud.Havin' fun, though =)
>>551645770people bitch and moan a lot more in heresy in my experience (leveling fresh characters to play with friends who got the game) That said you can ignore them they're almost always wrong and retarded because they play on heresy and think it's worth minmaxing/caring for heresy. If someone gets mad at you for doing things wrong before havoc 30+ he's probably an actual special ed retard who blames his own shortcomings on other people, generally speaking. Just enjoy your own game and try to do well and it's fine, nobody could reasonably be mad at that
>>551645953Word, thanks. I like how some of these penances are forcing me to try a new build/playstyle but hate the idea of being the weak link. I still feel like I am credit to team, though, so I'll keep at it.
>>551647040I'll help you if you share your fatshark friend code
>>551633086>>551633141Kek>>551634876Technically it came from here first I think since it was to make fun of a Mexican who kept spamming ‘though’ to shitpost
New arby weapon skin, pls
>>551648868Maybe after you get the admech class
>grailjeets every gameback to instalocking kruber myself then
>>551649809>implying anyone cares about an unc ahh game like Vermintide
>>551650174keep typing like a retard, it's soon gonna be second nature
>>551650356hope they do wordfilters for the ebonics trash like they did before
>>551650174Apparently jeets do and they're all playing grail knight
>>551650498I can assure you that jeets are not playing fucking Vermintide of all games. Think about what you are typing before you post it. Does it make ANY sense for jeets to be playing a game like Vermintide? They pretty much exclusively play mobile phone games.
BROKER?HARDLY KNEW 'ERWhy is it broker why why why
>>551650730The most persistent ratfag is a jeet.
>>551611560Well you better get used to it because that is the next class.
>>551650730I'm merely referencing this post >>551649809
>>551650954He's a white Frenchman
>>551651220So a jeet.
>>551652157No. Jeets are indian, Sri Lankan or bangledeshi
>>551650757>1st class: (A)damant>2nd class: (B)roker>3rd class: (C)rypticIt is a mystery.
>>551652389The next class is hive enforcer.
>>551652741Actually it's a Crypt Fiend from Warcraft
actually its yo momma
Ogryn should be allowed to pet the Arbites' dog
>>551619846A psyker AdMech class could be kino.>>551615051That animation is such a classic…
>>551613432>>551614219>>551613985The only thing I’d say is different is sometimes in the Warp the ship itself is torn apart but seemingly not always so it’s still kinda accurate. Fun movie.
>>551652340>no pakistanGood morning sar
>>551653667Also them, but people usually use different slurs
>>551653379Admechs don't have psykers, the magos psykana just makes and maintains the tech that psykers use, like the hoods and staves. Otherwise psykers born in mechanicus jurisdiction are just ruthlessly exploited for their abilities or sent off to the black ships, it's about as awful a fate as being servitorized.
>>551653317https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Yjiu_904Q
>ogryn rushes ahead>kills everything in his path>hiv cum rushes ahead>gets downed and leaves
>>551613232It’s an assassin, yes. In particular it seems to be Legienstrasse who was the sole (known) assassin created by Temple Maerorus, and the focus of a story arc that was overall funny as fuck with how badly everything went. Basically Alex Mercer from the Prototype games on steroids.
>>551653667people call those pakis retard
>>551654758I don't and it makes the mohammedan jeets even more mad
>>551655104you never made anyone seethe with that, people probably just keep correcting you
real darkturd hours
>>551654690Usually only good ogryns rush ahead whereas scumoids rush ahead because they're fast and need to chase kills to keep their abilities up
>>551652389Fatshark uses Necromunda as inspiration for Darktide a lot. And I bet on that the next class is gonna be an ashwaste nomad. I base it on the fact that we had our first map outside the hive this update, but alongside in the story campaign of the No Man's Land mission Dukane says >"but it is already clear that Admonition has a presence in Tertium's fringes, and perhaps even in the desolation beyond."Ie. desolation meaning the desert like wastes outside of Tertium.And in the recent interview Victor Magnuson had with Jeficus he mentioned that the story will next be going somewhere "unexpected". And having the story go outside of the hive would be unexpected since most Admonition's and Moebian 6th's are centered within the hive city.As for the ashwaste nomads, they are described to be a very cryptic and largely enigmatic people on Necromunda, and not much is known about their way of life or history. It is speculated that they might be the direct descendants of the pre-Imperium people who used to exist on Necromunda before the planet was conquered by the Imperium, some other theories speculate they might not even be humans at all and might be mutants or xenos of some kind.Ie. they are very cryptic.It is also possible that the Admonition cult isn't even originally "native" to Tertium itself and they be a group who came into the hive from the outside.Evidenced by the fact that they wear yellow/sandy colored rags, which might be for religious and cultish reasons, but it might have started off as actually camouflouge for the sandy environment of the wastes.
I only sprint when there's three people ahead of me.
Reminder Bully is the best Ogryn and I won't hear any slander
>>551655749*heavy
>>551655749no, he sounds like a perpetually bitter faggotjust like loose asshole veteran
Is there a site somewhere that's transcribed all the voicelines/interactions so I can read them? I tune out all the chatter and end up missing everything =(
>>551655416I rush ahead as scum because landing crits and using despacito makes me invulnerable to attack, and being ahead means gunners and other enemies are targeting me and not the rest of the team. I can also lure enemies to chokepoints for AoE maximum effect or have bulwarks and burgles expose their backs. You just have to know when to dodge, take cover, how far ahead is too far ahead and to not die.
>>551650730Bro it’s been free multiple times all third worlders play that stuff>>551651220That’s just a bit he does he’s an ESL and probably brown
>>551652389adamant was a stretch but broker is obviously a drug dealer and cryptic obviously refers to binharic
>>551656027I usually stay midline if i can because it's more helpful in my experience. It makes it easier to kill the right targets that are ahead and behind
>>551655559I like it. What's their gimmick? Any exclusive weapons?
>>551656412Depends on team comp and what they're good at. If there's an arby or orgyn on the team, you don't have to worry about being an off-tank since either of them will handle it far better, but if they're pretty squishy like psykers or vets heavily invested into ranged, it's worth it to surge ahead and take the main pressure off so they can do their thing.
>>551656018no one cares about this game that much
>>551655814heavy has good voice acting but his actual lines are pretty boring. He's way too smart so he comes across pretty generic
>>551656018This game has *a lot* of dialogue. Would be a pretty mammoth task to gather it all in one place like that but nothing like that exists afaik
>>551656458>I like it. What's their gimmick?Summoner class, they use their esoteric ash waste bullshit (psychic magic) to summon native atoman creatures to attack the enemies. Probably even a cyber-mastiff reskin but its a giant cockroach instead.>Any exclusive weapons?Scrap metal long riflesBlast riflesBlast pistolsStalking knivesCharge castersMono-hooksChain lancesMelee weapons made from talons and spikes of the creatures within the wastesJust pick 4-6 of these as exclusives and then just give them the weapons that all human classes share.Low effort and quick to make, ie. how Fatshark likes it.
>>551653941That’s unfortunate. I thought they did welcome psykers in their ranks.
As arbi is there a reason to pick dog aoe shock instead of mine?
>>551657774True. Maybe it's datamine-able through the closed captions, but even still, it'd be a lot of work to format and post all of it. All righty, I'll just keep an ear out. Thanks.
>>551658849it deals good aoe damage and staggers bosses, but mines do provide more value usually.
>>551658849Pick dog explosion if you want leave grenade pickups for other players and want a blitz that you can use more frequently in more situations
which mortis trials map gives Brahm's memories? it's the newest one right?
>>551658849Remote Detonation regens faster and explodes in a radius sending enemies flying but it doesn't crowd control as hard, and you don't need to pick up any grenade pick ups.Shock mines have only 2 charges and don't regen (unless you take Lone Wolf), but it stuns an infinite amount of enemies (except bosses) for 15 seconds. Meaning it gives you at least 15 seconds of time to do something urgent without getting molested by a poxwalkers or getting hammered by a crusher overhead.Both are good but I'd say that the shock mine is more effective and has way more impact that Remote Detonation. Throw 1 mine on to a choke point, like a door and quite literally nothing will get through.
>>551659220It's randomised. You can't control the map you get and you can't control the memory echoes that occur.
>>551659414I thought I saw someone complaining that they couldn't get the memories from the newer map because all the new players caused the game to prioritize the first two? Was that just schizophrenia?
>>551659693Probably, if it actually happened and not inside your head, whoever said that was probably just hilariously wrong.
How I wish that this game took place in Necromunda proper and we could play as kino ultra badass stuff like the Van Saars and Spyre Hunters. Look at this. Imagine the fun and kino.
>>551658849dog if focusing on monstrosities. mine if not, unless you're dogless
>>551659220Iirc all mortis maps give all the voice lines, they aren't tied to specific maps as far as I know.
>>551659693map is irrelevant, the game has a pretty hefty chance of giving you the exact one you're missing, but you can still roll one you've already gottenI got my very last one by just queuing the easiest difficulty until I heard the correct lines at wave 3, it did not take long at all, it's like 50/50 on whether you get one you're missing or one you've already had, even if the ratio is heavily skewed
People say rolling steel is hard but this new operation is absolutely sweaty with randoms, you have to hardcarry and kill literally 200+ elites and specials or your retarded teammates wipe
>>551661847Rolling Steel is only hard if you get people who fuck around trying to fight everything. No Man's Land doesn't have any gimmicks, so they're shitters because they're shitters, the map isn't doing anything.
>>551660058are Van Saars the coolest gang? seems like they are
>>551661847No Man's Land is fun as fuck. No idea what you're on about.Finally a map that actually makes it feel like you're in a war against the heretics and not just mopping up after they've taken what they wanted.
>>551662124>No Man's Land doesn't have any gimmicks, so they're shitters because they're shitters, the map isn't doing anything.it definitely spawns a fuckton more elites and specials than is normal for aurics. I end no mans land with 50% more special kills than other missions and it's way shorter>>551662442>No idea what you're on about.what do you mean?
>penance needs a very specific party to do
>>551662839>it definitely spawns a fuckton more elites and specials than is normal for auricsI guess? Feels like a regular shock troop gauntlet.
>>551663084no I just went through my scoreboards and it definitely spawns more specials than full missions over half the timeframedouble the special density is definitely noticable lol
>>551662404van saars all have super cancer from the STC they're hiding
>>551663029I think you can nab this one on mortis trials pretty easily if you get the right modifiers.
>>551663029???? grab the cooldown stim and use it twicemake sure to take the talent with the longer run
>>551662442>No Man's Land is fun as fuck. No idea what you're on about.I wonder why people have this tendency to disagree with people. That post said absolutely nothing your post contradicts
>>551663175seems fair. can’t be the coolest without a price.
OBESE MY CAT!
>>551662442he never said it wasn't fun?
What was happening with vermintide the other day? I tried opening it to get me wolf father stuff but I kept getting kicked out with an error message that I couldn't be verified
>>551662404No. Cawdor is
>>551664315You're a Sigmarite
I have not played in awhile. My favorite class was Ogryn though. Can I utilize the new tank path on Ogryn and still be a team credit? I heard that Ogryn isn't great except for very specific weapon sets and talent tree setups. My favorite setup before I stopped was a billy club and the taunt. Along with the purple tank talents at the bottom.
Focus fire or Weapon Specialist for plasma gunner build?
