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>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
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>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
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wuwa won
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>>551673542
>fatzuru
worse fetish than pubeshit
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>>551673542
So why is she tied up again?
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How's she lookin brahs
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>posting porn
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peakzuru
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Say it wh me:
Bricki
Brickzuru
Brickarja
Bricknine
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>>551673795
copies on reset tenacity are the whole point. the rest is meh
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>>551673542
uuuhh sis you can't post that
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>>551673970
It's the best I got on short notice
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you are senmetsumaxxing her arent you?
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>corrupted veronica
>loses kowalski
>complete personality change
>becomes abusive pyscho dominant yandere girl
>laughs maniacally all the time
>is the Florence of czn
would people roll for her limited banner?
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>>551673923
Yep, looking more and more like a Tipherasweep
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>>551674068
Is she limited? If not then skip.
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>>551674049
i dont know what that accessory is
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>>551673542
SEX
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>>551674049
Hmm, wrong missile and core upgrade...
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hai rei desu
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>>551674049
I haven't figured out yet if it's better to create max HLLs or cycle the same 4-5 repeatedly. I think 3x HL with turn start and 2x shining core to create 2 more might be optimal. Or at least consistent. Creating HLLs feels like its only good for dropping ego skill nuke
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Which one should I go for? I am in-between E2 Veronica or E0 Khalipe, but open to more suggestions.
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>>551674049
upgrade core is way more consistent
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Are Selena nodes necessary if I just plan to make her a support for Sereniel? I am not sure how her potentials affect extra damage.
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Why the fuck doesn't Yuki have her partner on the story chaos?!?
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>>551673542
*starts sucking on the monitor*
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>>551674617
isnt mei lin e2 cracked? gayron e2 with bria?
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>>551674068
who is this bitch
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>>551674617
I main Khalipe but she's sadly not that good. Even with a god deck you're only getting about 1500% dmg on your best turns. She's like S tier chaos but B tier static battles.
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>>551674617
Khalippe was my first character i built and I very much regret it. Get anyone else imo shes a brick right now

also fuck this retarded captcha
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>>551674919
not wheelchair accessible
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>>551674919
she's a gimp in wheelchair; she can't go anywhere
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>>551675017
t0 in all content according to reddit nigga
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>>551674903
extra dmg can crit, bro
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>>551674903
Only the crit nodes.
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Is this a decent serenial?
I can push the attack a bit high probably with some better attack rolls.
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>>551674953
gayron is too p2w, you have to rebuild his deck at e3
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>>551674150
weren't those all revealed in the roadmap?
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>>551674953
Sounds generic. One extra Ember per attack. Gayron would be amazing if his Futility attacks were 0 cost.

>>551675016
>>551675017
Nyo...
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>>551674617
i find renoa fun. it feels good to load her hand with durge bullets and then let them rip.
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>>551675103
>>551675130
So only the crit nodes, right?
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>>551675145
Are you running Instinct or ATK goblet?
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>>551675097
>reddit tards are tards

why am I not surprised?
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>>551675614
I wouldn't mind her if I already didn't have 3 void DPSs built.
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>mfw they forgot to nerf me again
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>>551675882
I have both but for this one atk. If I go instinct she goes to like 783 atk.
Her 3rd piece is really bad so I plan on replacing it in the future (no atk rolls or anything)
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>1h of autoing dailies
fuck this shit honestly
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>>551676680
play the game ;)
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>>551676693
Haru is sexy...?
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>>551676693
corrupted haru and corrupted rei better be succubi
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>>551676680
>1hr of autoing vs 10 seconds of playing
bro...
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>>551676849
No need to bs people, faggot. It will never be that fast even with skips.
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>>551676992
Cassius and Tressa NEEDED to be nerfed.
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Is mutant predator spike THAT good of a weapon? why do people always recommend it
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Men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
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>>551677271
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>>551677365
It's generic and easy to trigger.
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aieeeeee stop posting slops
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>>551677441
did she just farted right before the final laser??
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Do I actually have to burn stamina on memory fragments at level 40? I've built a couple of decent teams to 40 but I already feel like I'm hard stuck even trying to run abyss 10-20 levels below my team. Potential tab upgrades are way too expensive.
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>>551677441
RIVETING BOSSFIGHTS
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>>551677786
>>551676992
NERF CAS AND TRES MORE! THEY KEEP RUINING THE GAME WITH ENDLESS TURNS!!!
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>>551677535
giwtwm
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>>551677480
>/pol/nigger twitard is pro nerf
Of fucking course.
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https://youtu.be/o2PuV9vnyI8?t=638
>for 1.15millions you have to kill the boss 5 times
>for 1.3 millions you have to kill the boss 15 times
Whalechads won
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>>551676680
Weren't they going to reduce the nodes to 1 even if you used 60 stamina? Whatever happened to that?
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>>551677535
This is indeed disgusting
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>>551676693
Fattening Haru
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Bros... how the hell am I supposed to get to 60% crit%?
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>>551679929
4 crit rate substat on average on all memory fragments except slot 4
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How is this? I didn't get any good copy options and missed out on the right Plasma Missile epiphany but salvaged the latter with a divine epiphany and Upgrade to thin the deck.
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What's this about skipping first dimensional tunnel in laboratory zero?
It makes copy event better for 2nd one? Im confused as I've heard it before in here
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>>551677146
it took me about 5 mins to finish my dailies (spending all my stamina) by just playing, while it might be on the long side it's still nothing crazy like what you're going through...
https://files.catbox.moe/btz21v.mp4
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>>551680438
>all that shit to clear a simulation
so glad I pulled Khalipe
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>>551680660
Nobody cares.
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>>551680660
thank god and good riddance
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>>551681114
no blobbing!
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>>551680926
I have Khalipe too, but I don't have anything to use Yuki in and I like her so I just made her my simulation slave so I could stare at her more...
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>>551681404
Blobs, you say?
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is this game better than limbus company?
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>>551681640
it's better than wuwa and fgo
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>>551681640
is water wet?
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>>551680660
An era has ended...
Good.
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>>551681640
It has actual gameplay if that's what you're asking
Regarding the story I wouldn't pay much attention to it right now since it's currently being rewritten as we speak
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>>551681609
Dis a Pear! Not a blob
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>>551681640
A dried shit on a sidewalk is better than LC.
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>>551681640
gameplay is more engaging overall, boss fights aren't puzzle game yet, current story is like canto 1 and 2 tier but it's getting rewritten.
Normal gacha though so you won't be able to autismo max with (or without) battlepass yourself into every character.
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its alright i guess
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>>551681640
Story wise absolutely not
Gameplay wise absolutely fucking yes
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>>551682180
You forgot to mention cancer equipment rng.
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>>551682309
I'll take that over le quirky achievement shit in MDs.
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yeah I'm not gonna bother with this autism
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>>551682784
it's not needed at all
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>decent Kyrken emissary options
>good starting events
>tons of card removal
>good early epiphanies
>decent forbidden card
>get fucking Kefox
YES YES YES, WE'RE SO BAC-
>Interior
>epiphanies fucking refuse to trigger
>unlock last two cards on the last boss
>those were the most important ones
FUCK
FUCK ZERO SYSTEM
FUCK DEEP TRAUMA, IT'S A SCAM
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>>551682309
Equipment rng is as cancer as you let it be, these trash games are designed to be played with suboptimal rolls in general.
It's only stuff like pvp or tryharding content for small korean penis pinch reward increases that will make you worry about near perfect/perfect substats.
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>>551682309
>>551682938
>lucklets seething hard
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Stopped playing Sereniel and decided to do a Chizuru run without her. Goddamnit, she is so bad it's depressing. Epihpanies are complete shit too.

Inhibit makes no sense, it's so bad. Also it costs 1, jesus christ she is so clunky and awful.
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>>551682871
>Not doing events that trigger eps
Anon....
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>>551683062
The only good thing chizu chu is good for is being cute and rapeable...
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>>551683080
I fucking did whenever I could. Combat epiphany rate was absolute DOGSHIT during this run.
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>>551680357
I've read the opposite. First tunnel can get you a forbidden and a divine epiphany to dupe. Second tunnel competes with event tiles so going for it might mean you don't get the copy event.
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dead thread dead game eos right after wuwa eos
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>>551682938
I can't clear most current endgame shit at all so i have no fucking idea what "pvp and tryharding" you are talking about. Fucking lvl60 is an insane slog as i either get wiped turn ~5-7 or just take forever doing shit dmg.
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selena looks pretty cute with her goggles in camp
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>>551683045
Having played Epic -"SPEED OR KILL YOURSELF"- Seven for years, czn's substat rolls will never make me seethe.
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>>551683062
BUT SHE CAN SOLO THE NEBULA BOSS YOU JUST DONT GET ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>stove account region sticks even without vpn
ok based
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Can anyone tell me why does the game remove my original Shining Core when fighting the boss?
This wasn't happening yesterday.
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>>551683846
You mean the doggo? What do you mean exactly, is it not getting saved or what's happening?
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>>551683846
This is the saved deck btw, it always removes the one without unique
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>>551683846
rift boss does not let you have multiple copies of the same upgrade card
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>>551683846
bro no duplicate upgrades in the bossfight
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>>551684262
>>551684365
That's so a kike move, why does that shit have even more rules for farming decks?
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>>551684596
because this is how gacha games are designed and therefore it's ok
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>>551684596
.........
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>>551684596
It's so Tressa doesn't overshadow Sereniel in her own event like she did Chizuru.
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>>551684596
Everyone has to pay the Tressa tax now
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I whored myself to Rin but with enough affection managed to reach 1.000 ATK points to max out her Potential skill!
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>>551684698
tressa is so cute man
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>>551681640
Best gacha gameplaywise around
Plot is… scheduled to be rewritten. Event’s plot is good though.
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>>551684698
>>551684849
>>551684990
Nigger devs should have just nerfed her already instead of doing this convoluted bullshit
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>>551684996
Nice and aesthetic 1k attack
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>>551685216
>retard thinks devs won't turn bosses into complete fucking multistage effect and counter stacked abominations in a few months
So pure and innocent...
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>>551685216
>>551684596
who's this slut
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>>551685216
They are nerfing her, just not fast enough.

Or at least, "rework" her, maybe they'll still keep her good? Who knows.
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>>551685216
Ok, now ALL upgrade cards are considered unique. You sure you want to continue down this road?
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>>551684698
did you gen this image?
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>>551686026
Encore
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combatants like this when??
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>Tressajeets are STILL seething
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>>551686119
I didn't but yes these are genned.
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>>551685212
>Event plot good
>Shady company that caused everything gets away scott free
>The test subjects forgive them
>We're friends™
Event story isn't any better
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>>551686709
its fun and good enough
who is supposed to punish them? the police?
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>another run where mika gets epiphanies for every single card and the other combatants still have half a deck of stock cards
i think this is actually a bug. it happens far too often.
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>>551686709
>umm the bad guys didn't get punished how can this be a good story???
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>>551686858
just remove all her cards first bwo unless you are building a mika deck
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>>551686709
I hate stories where space has some sort of police

Space should be a fucking lawless hellscape, I love Starsector's setting
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>Sereniel just came out
>0 pictures of Sereniel ITT
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>>551686282
well that's yuki's outfit, but they're cute and yuki is a disgusting pig.
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>>551686852
It's funny because Yuki is a police officer and did absolutely nothing
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>>551687052
did you already forget what she looks like or something?
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>>551686983
ooooh of course. just remove all her cards, why didn't i think of that. i could just click the remove all cards button because it's so easy to do that any time you feel like it. and it's definitely not possible that she gets an epiphany and then that card gets an epiphany the very next battle. that definitely never happens.
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>>551687052
im not into bitches you feel me homie
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>>551687139
well she probably has her jurisdiction
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>>551687023
Anon, space as in the full definition of the word, is either free or under someones jurisdiction.
And that planet had multiple installations on it so there would be someone held responsible for that shit one way or another.
For the space to be "free" it would have to be hidden or in whereever the fuck nowhere that no one even knows something exists there, but our command, the investigation bureu and the church know, so the idea that nothing should happen is absurd. The worldbuilding already made it that way.
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>>551687364
LMAO i know your retarded ass is removing basics from other chars before her cards
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>It did reset twice this week
Hope you guys did the last boss before it changed or you lost crystals.
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Sereniel is fun but there's going to be consequences for her release in the long term.
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>>551687052
the mods deleted the kissing one i posted but thankfully didn't ban me for it
there were no nips vag or pussy tho
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>>551687594
>but our command, the investigation bureu and the church know
We don't care
Yuki doesn't seem to care either
The Church knows?

In any case no one cares I guess
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>>551687713
>The only art for this game is ai slop
How did this happen? How is 99% of this games fan art just slop?
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I did it, bros!
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>>551687594
>that planet had multiple installations
what planet was it? it was probably some abandoned ruins
they also said that the lab was installed somewhere chaos related so there's probably no towns around there
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The story has so much potential but its handled like ass. Remember that supposedly emotional scene with yuki at the end of the event but shes dressed like a stripper with her titties flopping out of her dress? Its like everyone competent has left the team or something. I dont see that original spark this game had.
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>Been outside for 1.5 days
Any meaningful news?
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so everyone but the F2P anon is abusing this thick bitch?
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>>551687606
you don't know shit actually. between the other two i only had a single removal (thanks to lucky convert events)
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>>551688261
everyone actually since even f2poor have enough pull currency and the omega selector
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>>551687926
Here, have some sovl, gramps.
>>551632919
>>551662517
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>Characters have to conform to my code of dressing or i won't take them serious
ok
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Are Sereniel's cards bullet cards?
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>>551687743
Yeah, and that's fucking bad writing. You'd think Chaos mutation experimentation using stollen rare materials would have some people actually be interested in what the fuck is going on.

>>551688083
Cassius has a corp there that used to do some kind of trade. It cannot be empty.
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>>551688348
>the first one
kino
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>>551688130
now this is a limbab take
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>>551688360
>Yuki
>Nothing too crazy
>Sereniel
>Safe but boring
>Chizuru
>Ridiculous in the worst way possible
What were they thinking when they designed her?
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>>551688556
Yeah I'm sorry Yuki I'm STROKING my TINY PIS- I mean HUGE CANNON while you cry, if you don't mind it
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>>551685348
Thanks!
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>>551680259
You need 4 lasers. 3 is pushing it.
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I'm having fun again
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>>551688556
Did anyone in the world get sad or emotional here?
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>>551688885
yeah me
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>>551688764
That’s right. Don’t judge a grower.
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>>551688964
Have you read any story ever?
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>>551688885
My dick started to tear up.
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>>551688885
They obviously wanted this to be a sad moment but I felt nothing. Felt like a deus ex machina because the writers couldn't figure out how to actually beat the villain
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So what's the QRD on Sereniel? What epiphanies or cards do I need to get on this fat bitch so she starts trivializing content?
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>>551689264
>Felt like a deus ex machina because the writers couldn't figure out how to actually beat the villain
It's the complete opposite of that. Kaguya is full of smart people who wanted the gem to beat the villain. Lo and behold, it worked.
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>>551689276
>so she starts trivializing content
really anything
if you want a build specifically for the rift leaderboard, you want to be copying the base laser with an epi like +hit on ravage, and getting the upgrade that gives extra lasers on ravage
you can also dupe her ultimate, it's just that good
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Chaos is a ladder...
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>>551689560
did he get to fuck Sansa?
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>>551689697
Only in his dreams.
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>>551687713
Pubes?
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>>551689078
>sereniel has the firepower to destroy an entire planet
>she can't pop a chaos core
>our cannon doesn't destroy the planet we shoot at in the process of shooting the chaos core
???
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>>551689276
homing laser turn start and shining core upgrade to create more. 5 of these combined. the rest of the cards don't really matter. some are fine none are required.
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>>551688261
nyes, but I'm also f2p. I probably fucked up by not taking a 2nd Pale Shooting Star over a 4th Homing Laser though.
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>>551688885
I found Haru's and Renoa's trauma codes to be kinda sad. The story sort of took itself somewhat seriously and it did it's job.

I can't take anything Yuki does or says seriously when she looks like she's wearing a towel as her sole piece of clothing and her large tits are spilling out. It's like playing a sad game but making every character wear clown outfits so the seriousness and impact of the scene dies a worse death than the characters ons creen.
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>>551673542
E2 or partner for Sereniel? Or both? Do we know any leaks if if a later character will support Sereniel? Imagine if big hand girl gives you a bigger max hand for even MORE lasers

Laser spam is so fun I'm in love, I haven't rolled since Day 1 and I'm tempted to spam to E2 her (already used code for E1)
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>>551689276
Pick your poison. Sereniel offers relative freedom of playstyle. You don’t necessarily brick yourself if you fail to get a specific one or lack a Divine Epiphany.
That being said I:
>like Shining Core’s Unique upgrade
>like Plasma Missile’s Draw 1 (it says it ACTIVATES again if not ravaged. That isn’t a second hit. This means if the guy isn’t ravaged it will hit twice and draw twice!)
>like Homing Laser’s epiphany that brings it to hand at the Start of the turn.
Frankly if I get either the 1st or the 3rd of the ones I mentioned I consider the deck blessed enough to continue the run to the end and see where it goes.
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>>551690053
partner >> dupes
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The fuck does this even mean?
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>>551690053
e2
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>>551690224
all of your combatants get a free dupe for the run
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>>551690224
Increases character dupe by 1.
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>>551690053
Her Partner is limited like herself but the Dupe ee got from the event works on her
t. Got mine to E2 that way.
So if you are gonna choose, I’d got for the partner and use this or next season’s dupe to E2 her if you want.
She is good enough I don’t think you’d be desperate for either E2 or the Partner. I think E2 is a bigger boost however slightly over her sig, but as the sig is limited you can’t conveniently get it later.
That said you CAN buy the sig from the DNA shop so if you are close to 300 DNAs it’d be worth it as it’s the same you’d expend in 30 summons
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The newer 3rd stage is kind of nice. I appreciate the extra shop.
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>>551690176
>>551689851
What fragments do I get on her?
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>>551688337
>>551689876
yeah my bad i was talking about the no pull account anon, BTW what's your score with that deck? 600K?
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>>551690670
I’m using the new set that came with Chizuru that increases Instinct damage on ravaged targets + the attack set
I think the crit damage set could be better but I had a leftover IV executioner set that increases Crit Chance as its main stat and went to use it. Sereniel’s final potential requires 30% crit chance to trigger and increases her damage by 10%. At 60% that goes up by another 5% and I plan to farm that later but as she is curbstomping everythibg already as is, I’m leaving that min-maxing autism for later.
This is my deck by the way. She consistently gets her hand full of cards. I actually was aiming for a build closer to the top leaderboards but as I said, it was working like crazy already so I’m in no min-maxing rush for it either.
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>>551688556
they really want people to take the mindbreak element serious with fucking retarded character design like this lmaoooooooo
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why is bro acting like a sjw now
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Is it better to
>+25% atk
or
>+16% instinct damge
on your slot 5 for a DPS like serneiel?
It's the difference between having 940 atk (+25%) or 847 atk (+16% instinct damge). The substats on the instinct gear are better (namely +3.6% crit chance)
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>>551689925
Feel the same, Yuki is so sexualized its like watching your character with porn mod in a story oriented game cinematics
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>>551691086
I dont like this set, also it doesnt work well with Selenia
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You're in the Chaos with your Sereniel GF and this fat bastard slaps her ass... What do you do?
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>skipped yuki and chizuru
>went to roll for sereniel
>got this
thanks I hate it
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>>551691474
Put one on and go into a battle mission. Attack. Then switch. Come back and tell us what you discovered.
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>>551688858
Counting which lasers towards the total?
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>>551691662
I’m all ears if you have other suggestions.
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>>551691474
847 x 1.16 is already better than 940, and that's not even accounting for any extra attack you get from gear during battle.
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>>551691761
I'd watch him fuck her if he allows me. Seeing that stud fuck her and Sereniel making faces and sounds i never seen nor heard before
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Where do you guys farm Sereniel decks?

Lab 0 or is there a better map in zero system?
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>>551692345
Lab 0. Same as any other character you're focusing on, you want Veronica/Rei and Mika since their unique cards can't be duplicated so it makes it easier to hit the dupes you want on Sereniel. And instead of always removing basics, you should remove unique cards from the other characters to further increase your odds of hitting the dupe you want.
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I'm having fun like you wouldn't believe
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>>551692764
>you should remove unique
*non-unique
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>>551692764
Did they unfuck Lab 0 so it doesn't feel like torture trying to get a lot of dupes? Might as well go do city of mist or something if they haven't
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>>551688556
This scene isn't bad because Yuki is being a semen demon, it's bad because Asuna wasn't even a character up to this point. Neither was Haku either, he's even less of an antagonist than Louis or Judas.
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>>551691761
And yes, the fat fuck killed me thanks to Nia breaking down right then. Made a good show of it, though. Got a pretty good Sereniel deck with no basics and three homo laser dupes too. Not meta, but still good for a dead run.
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>>551692345
Lab 0. It seems they fixed the Epiphany chances in it and it has a higher terabyte ceiling than Zero System
Specifically I roll for a decent tier/challenges in the difficulty VIII. This allows you to remove Unique cards from others to increase the odds Sereniel gets the Copy chance while not being ballbusting hard.
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>>551692070
2/2/2 like all dps
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>>551689925
The tone mismatch between the cosmic horror and the gooner/slice of life slop is so bad I can't get into anything with the story and characters at all.
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>>551693000
who is that cube woman?
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>>551692345
Lab 0 if you are willing to farm wings, bug planet or city of mist otherwise so you can farm the ravage claws (less damage, but applies to entire kit) or egg (good stat boost) or crystal ball (more damage but only buffs lasers).
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>>551692941
Why can't it be bad because of all the reasons listed? It's not like there's one specific reason why it's bad
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"Veronicum"
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>>551692940
They seem to have unfucked Lab 0 yes. At very least a Deep Trauma run consistently unlocks epiphanies with frequency equal to the Zero System.
Not sure how this applies to normal runs though.
>>551693139
What’s the third 2 bro?
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>>551692208
It does seem to be a bit better, yes. The same attack on the same enemy did a flat 20 dmg more, and 24 more on the critical.
It's not bad having two because I can move the atk% one on non-instinct characters around and keep the instinct one on sereniel (the only instinct dps for now).
Thank you.
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>>551693149
Solia, from the Battle Pass. If I had pulled Daisy beforehand, I wouldn't have bothered, but she's alright if you forget that she essentially costs ten bux.
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>>551693143
Yeah the game is just in an eternal tug of war between the people who want porn and the people who want a dark cosmic horror story and the devs trying to meet both in the middle results in some clown shit
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>>551692925
Too many overlapping naming conventions in this game. Unique tag vs. unique card.
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>>551692070
i use the old instinct set because I had a good one. i'm pretty happy with it.
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i had one boss left to do so i just hopped into judas
she can basicly nuke both forms in 1 turn with a 3x move laser and if you have some draw to cycle all deck
>laser spam first form
>use ult to get your lasers back
>use 1 cost cobalt on 2nd form + all your lasers
>win
perfectly balanced character
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>>551693449
there's no unresolvable tension, they're just doing it wrong. read muv-luv.
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>>551693196
I'm not someone who believes in judging the quality of a story because of how a character looks, that only controls my first impressions and I do think the scene is a nice animation that would work as an emotional moment if they had worked for it during the last 2 chapters. I'm aware not everyone is willing to do that, but I don't mind trying to take seriously stories where characters look slutty.
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>>551693293
the extra dmg to characters with agony on them
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>>551693449
Just make the girls appropriately designed like Veronica, Renoa, or Magna, then make their home screens as lewd as Sereniel and Maribell's. She had a horrific, stressful day in the cosmic horror expanse, so she wants to come home, take her clothes off, get in a steamy bath, and get lewd with >(You). Perfectly reasonable way to balance it.
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>>551693935
>read muv-luv.
I did and rolled for the latest girl in Muvluv too, she's so cute.
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>>551694112
yuki puts more clothes on before she hangs out with the captain.
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>>551694206
EN option when
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>>551694414
given that you need a JP VPN to even access the game, quite literally never.
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>>551694112
Veronica's screen made me pretty horny because I imagined fucking her inside her hiding spot while she tried her best to not moan and alert Kowalski
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>>551694206
Did she get ntr raped by aliens like all the other girls, too?
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>>551694791
muvluv girls garden is just BA with sex, it has barely anything to do with the actual muvluv franchise.
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>>551694112
I really do want more characters like Veronica, Renoa, Magna or Mei Lin and less characters like Yuki or Chizuru that are just comical in appearance
Seems like they'll just continue doing the thing of sluts in space though so I will continue not taking the story seriously.

The real kicker is that the main story didn't have any of these issues because the outfits are fine, the atmosphere is fine and it was easy to get into the world or setting until you went to discuss it and saw everyone killing themselves and having their own breakdowns over the dumbest shit of 2025.
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>>551694965
not buying it. in more ways than one
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Why the fuck does rei have ATK potentials, yet there is not a single controller partner who gives ATK? are the devs high?
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>>551694272
*with the whole crew
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>>551695227
>the atmosphere is fine and it was easy to get into the world or setting
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now
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>>551695227
sereniel is actually relatively tame as far as mecha musume designs go
often they're just outright naked with metal bits covering their nipples and pussy
beyond that, a leotard (like sereniel) or second-skin like bodysuit is pretty much the standard
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>>551695318
Most likely was planned as an offdps before getting turned itno a full on buffer.
Orlea also has some retarded atk scaling when she's primarily a support.
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>>551695572
giantess mecha woman isn't exactly my cup of tea but I guess she's better than the previous two
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>>551695227
every single piece of storytelling outside of the prologue is awful so I can't agree with that, but I do think sereniel looks reasonable enough, she has a ton of delicious sidebooba but her idle is miles better than yuki's
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>>551695318
Every class has standarlised potentials:
Hunter, Striker, Ranger, Psionic: Crit nodes
Vanguard: Crit chance and attack
Controller: HP and attack
Controllers use the defense stat to heal, devs are retarded and I doubt this will ever be fixed.
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>>551695227
>>551695227
I agree they should have battle clothes
That's something they could still fix
Yuki running around in chaos dressed like a turbo whore is just off putting
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where is the double drop on simulation sg?, I was promised that
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Sereniel reminds me of infinite stratos
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ACK almost perfect save data if I got my unity epi before the first dupe...
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Bug planet is my favorite planet, hope we get a season to those little fucks.
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look at this bab still playing around with m*i lin in 2026
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>>551696769
don't make me pull out the mei lin folder
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>>551696913
please do so i can save it
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>>551696769
you're supposed to be playing mei lin AND sereniel, doe?
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So it looks like Trauma Codes aren't going to be as prevalent as I assume the devs want them to be. Personally, I can see them using Trauma Codes as a way to roll out character buffs the same way Fate Grand Zero does with its Interludes. Like, Mei Lin gets a Trauma Code, and if you clear it, it turns her basic card Potential to:

>+5% Mei Lin’s Strike Damage
>If Mei Lin’s Attack is above 500, an additional +5%
>When Mei Lin Ravages an enemy, move 2 Strike cards to the hand, and reduce their cost by 1 for 1 turn

Would be nice.
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>>551697062
>So it looks like Trauma Codes aren't going to be as prevalent as I assume the devs want them to be
based on what?
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>>551697280
When are we getting the spectral cube shop for 4*s? I've rolled like five extra Lucas'
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Is there a keyboard hotkey you can hold down to skip dialogue in chaos?
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>>551697280
>Season 2 - February
huh isn't this season ending in like two weeks? Are we going to get another Pre-season dead period?
Was kind of happy thinking Tiphera might be strong and limited like Sereniel but I'm now realizing she's probably going to be another brick like Yuki and Chizuru if the other two charas are preseason.
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>>551697280
They're just fully voicing them but they did not announce any new trauma code at all. We're three banners in, with three different barebone traumas that did not get expanded upon at all (Asuna, Kurokage, Kaguya's treatment), one of which is a limited. Releasing a code for them after their banners would be stupid and they didn't even mention whether Narja or someone else will get a code in January or not.
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>>551697887
Jan is just tower content. I think they are overestimating how much content that will be.
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>>551697887
yeah Narja's 3week banner is off-season, if there's another limited in S2 it's not Tiphera
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>>551697923
>They're just fully voicing them
Yeah that signals that they want to put more effort into them
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>>551698168
>>551698083
Yeah I should have expected that, I feel like a fool for getting my hopes up now thinking I'd finally have a character to go all in for.
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>>551698193
I can't not be pessimistic because all we've heard so far about the story rewrite is "trust me bro it's coming"
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>>551681640
Not really
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>>551698396
I play R1999 and it has no gameplay whatsoever
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>>551698396
>all slops
impressive
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Plasma Missile? 1, 3 and 4 look great but I want to know what you anons think
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>>551698396
>FGO actually beat something

How fucking dogshit is Tower of Fantasy?
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>>551698396
Battlecats is the only one that deserve a win from what is left.
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>>551698605
3 is goated but I think 5 is the only awful one.
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>today’s missions
>do battle with Sereniel
>simulation didn’t work
>click the very mission
>start a weird battle with pre-made party including Sereniel and pre-made decks
Huh? What was that?
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>>551698605
4 looks pretty bad to me unless you have a lot of draw
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>>551698396
>gacha gameplay tournament
>it's literally just a popularity vote on twitter
yeah i'm sure this will produce anywhere near an accurate evaluation
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>>551698605
Haven't had 3 show up yet, but it looks nuts. Imperil's already really good on its own considering she want to Ravage enemies, but the Laser upgrade's great on top of that. I usually have to settle for 1. It's still pretty good if you have the Shining epi that creates 2 Homing Laser Ls on Ravage.
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>>551698669
It's so dogshit I didn't know it was still even alive. TIL THE END OOOOOOF THE TIME, NONE OF US WILL SAY GOODBYE
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>>551698396
>>551699085
Just redo this but put it on /v/
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>>551699069
wdym you just break and that "draws" all the lasers for free
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>>551699557
The lasers generated don't move from deck to hand when you ravage, only from discard/grave
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>>551699069
You use it then follow up with pale shooting star.
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>>551690348
>>551690457
Ended up going E2 and the partner in about 130 rolls or so and still got like 140 left.
Time to blast lasers, thanks friends. Who should I send with her? Nia and Selena like the demo had? I've been doing Mika and Magna with her in Chaos.

Did they say anything about making the friends system do anything like rentals yet?
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>>551698605
>unique upgrade
>doesn't clog copy pool
>doesn't clog deck
I never seem to get it though...
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HOW DO I GEAR UP CASSIUS WHAT STATS THIS NIGGA WANT
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>>551699702
oh shit my bad
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>>551699901
his BIS are AIDS and monkeypox
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Does sereniel want any forbidden cards or should I just avoid the tunnels?
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>>551699251
The new update is basically a relaunch removing gacha and turn it into classic mmorpg
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>>551700443
Everyone benefits from eternal hunger
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>>551673542
the calculator I use is dead, any good ones?
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>>551700627
I like
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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>>551700783
I've been using this but a while back the reset all button stopped working for some reason so I had to switch to https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator which isn't as comfy
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>>551698396
>Azur Lane beat Brown Dust
>Genshin beat Snowbreak
>Star Rail beat Etheria
>fucking Reverse 1999 beat CZN
This isn't a "gameplay" tournament, this is a favoritism list made single handed by a tranny.
or maybe it's from reddit, same thing
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>>551699820
Cassius, if you built him for Tressa, is really close to a support for her since she spams so many 0-cost cards. Just without depending on healing
I think both Nia and Selena are good units but last I checked Selena was more frequent.
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this game literally does not respect my time im fucking uninstalling
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>>551697280
>simulation double rewards event
where?, here is only 3 days remaining on december
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>Laboratory remnants showing the failed bloody pulsating results of the atrocities from uncountable experiments, performed on creatures and children that could barely manage to survive by reaching limits beyond human comprehension.
dope
>this shows up
>instant 100 SAN loss
I-Is that... e-exposed female skin in non-socially approved areas???
AAAIIIIEEEEE MY EYES! SAVE ME DANTEH!
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more like
>IS THAT A GROUP OF ANONS HAVING AN OPINION I DON'T APPROVE OF?
>AHHHH SAVE ME ASUNA!!!!
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>>551701486
It's the new years gift
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>>551701525
Ngl bros my dick pulsating when this pop up
White tear running down my pants
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>>551701525
she looks so fucking stupid it's worth making the /czn/ equivalent of this
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>>551699820
I've been doing Nia and Veronica in my Chaos runs so far since I don't feel like building Selena just for Sereniel. They're both just there to cycle through the deck and get all of Sereniel's attacks in the hand as fast as possible, with Veronica being able to finish off enemies or deal with shitheads that punish you for card spamming. Cassius would presumably work better than Nia for what I'm doing, but I still haven't been able to get good MemFrags for him yet.
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What am I looking for in my Lab 0 runs to make sure I get the maximum number of copies? The one at the end of the run only lets you pick 1 card per combatant and it's never the right one.
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>>551701525
this is peak retardation
what were those gooks thinking
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>>551702006
Go back to your safe Rodion space
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>>551702153
Remove as many cards that don't have "unique" from your other 2 characters as possible.
Praying to your deity of choice
Restarting
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lol
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They said they would bring the horror back
Where is it
All we got are lore dumps about the 3 new girls and some tear-jerking porn scenes >>551701525
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>>551702227
I'd rather keep posting since it pisses you off so much.
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>>551702269
What about taking/not taking the tunnels?
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>>551701525
I was trying to figure out what wacky woohoo pizza man had to do with this until that other anon's post.
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>>551702467
After the rewrites? Are you dumb?
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>>551702684
Theyre aren't rewritting the events, idiot. Those are here to stay
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>>551702467
>They said they would bring the horror back
They said they wouldn't nerf characters.
They said there weren't any Limiteds or anything like that.
They said that no AI has ever been used for anything in any capacity, and that it'd be difficult to hide if they had used AI because the company is so big.
They said that Tressa will still be a top tier damage dealer after the balance adjustments.
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>>551702467
>rewrite comes up
>BBEG reveal, said to be the most horrible being in all off cosmos
>it's just a black screen
>your stupid face shows in the reflection
>(You) where the Nightmare all along
u rike?
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>>551702580
The tunnels won't offer copies. Lab 0 only has
>one copy for each boss (it's a three option selection)
>one copy event on the second half of the interior (it's a three option selection)
>one very rare variety of said event where you actually get to pick which card you want to copy
So the only way to maximize (not guarantee) your odds is to do what I said, remove as many cards from your partners as possible. it's shit. You're going to be in the mines forever. They said they're gving you the ability to choose which cards you want to copy from the boss coming next april, on the zero system upgrade rework update. Until then it's going to be shots in the dark or playing non-lab0 chaos that at least have one good copy event.
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>>551702840
That’s not what I said. You really are dumb.
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>>551701525
I don't get the joke.
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>>551702852
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>>551698605
honestly, it doesn't make much difference.
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>>551702852
>They said that Tressa will still be a top tier damage dealer after the balance adjustments.
S-surely that part will end up being the truth haha...
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>>551700948
Yeah the reset all button doesn't work but the reset button does
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>>551702852
The “make content with a mechanic meant to punish a specific character” is actually something common in korean gacha.
Blue Archive spent months trying to deal with the Mika meta until they just gave up. They went with debuffing crit damage, debuffing stats of units with equipment like hers and even debuffing stats of her entire school.
None of it worked. She kept being a meta pick. But the point is what they did with Tressa is nothing new.
As long as you don’t nerf an unit directly it’s fair game to them.
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>>551702946
Ugh this explains a lot, most combatants have been fine with just a bit of removal and epiphany but farming for copy is going to be cancer.
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>>551688858
Would the deck have been perfect if he had 3-4 copies of Laser or are there better epiphanies?
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>>551703323
It's cancerous ass. The farming is going to feel infinitely better once the choose your copies update kicks in. I'm not wasting my time until then, and instead will just do the bare minimum to get the gibs and move along.
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>>551702946
lab 0 has a select any card including forgotten card dupe event, it's just rare
also pretty sure the upgrades are sooner than april, like feb or something
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>>551703054
dumb kot
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>>551703301
The funnest part is how all those measuere to nerf Mika fucked over other chars in the process, while keeping still as the strongest proportionally. Truly blessed gamedev thinking.
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>>551703301
>The “make content with a mechanic meant to punish a specific character” is actually something common in korean gacha.
It's pretty standard gacha practice, yeah. The Mei Lin boss nerf and the Tressa (and Mika) boss nerf are both pretty standard ways to temporarily nerf "problematic" units in gachas.

>As long as you don’t nerf an unit directly it’s fair game to them.
There are going to be balance adjustments, anon. They already said it. Tressa and Cassius are both getting hit.
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>>551702946
>or playing non-lab0 chaos that at least have one good copy event.
I feel like it'd be better to just run the insect world for good sereniel decks at this point honestly since lab0 blows
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>>551703054
Limbus Company has a really cancerous wide western “fandom” that bitches about anything remotely lewd and pride themselves in a game lacking that.
They mock other games for it and their fans likewise, attacking gacha with fanservice and pandering like Blue Archive.
Plot twist: those discord retards have been repeatedly caught due to actual pedophilia - the very thing they accused and branded BA fans of being
Anon is basically saying these are the kind of retards going crazy with Yuki’s tits
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>>551703616
It's probably because they all use roblox too for some reason
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>>551698605
>>epi 1
tenacity damage is nice. can help breaking the boss and getting another round of burst
>>epi 2
low cost good nuke
>>epi 3
>2 instinct weakness
only for two attacks but she spamming a lot. won't make a difference
>+60% damage amount
irrelevant. diluted because of Cassius morale stacking
>>epi 4
unnecessary most of the time
>>epi 5
can hit relatively hard because of Selena
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>>551703579
It was hilarious. They weren’t hiding anything and punished an entire school to try to stop Mika. That just filtered out every single other girl from Trinity
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>>551703602
do what you like, but being able to reset seems more valuable to me than the better copy event
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>>551703616
>Anon is basically saying these are the kind of retards going crazy with Yuki’s tits
Sure, saying the scene looks stupid because of Yuki being dressed like a hooker is the same as being a discord tranny and hating sexy women
You sound like you know a lot about discord though, how about you fuck off back there
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>>551703701
>only for two attacks but she spamming a lot. won't make a difference
That's not how instinct weakness works. It's two turns, not two attacks.
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>>551703301
You know who else they've tried to kill off or remove from the meta but keeps coming back? Literal year one character but is still an autoinclude in so many teams
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They should let you copy more cards pre-epi, its more fun, but holy shit why do card upgrade chances fall of a cliff the later into a run you go? Do we know what the underlying calculations are for that?
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>>551703701
Imagine not even knowing how applying weakness works and trying to give your opinion lmao
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>>551703468
You need Foggy Crystal Ball, the Wings body armor ideally (annoying to get the event) and the Emblem accessory or anything that gives you damage. Epis are fine, Plasma could've been the 2 Instinct Weakness one if you wanted a more general use deck outside of ranking, and at least 4 Homing Laser copies. Not perfect by any means, unfortunately. Back to the mines, bwo.
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>>551704249
I have never seen Wings or Emblem so I just disregard those.
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>>551704249
>Wings body armor ideally
I don't think it make a difference at all
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>>551704249
>Foggy Crystal Ball
That's not Intellect
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How much of a difference is there between E0 Sereniel and E2 Sereniel?

Is there actually a huge difference or is it just something dumb like 10~20% boost?
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>>551704481
Intellect is bis on every DPS yes, but Foggy is easy to get and is still really strong. If he finds Cthulu and gets it, that's great.
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What's up with rank 20's sereniel deck, the horo guy.
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>>551703895
Yuki is the sexiest woman released so far among all combatant units, so yes, you're a tranny that hates sexy women.
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>>551704660
probably some chang cheating
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>>551704491
E2 is just for chaos comfort, which to be fair is extremely comfortable.
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>>551704660
People caught speedhacking again? I wonder if they implemented an automated system that detects if you cheat now and wipes your decks.
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Downloading Counterside. Haven't played it since six months from release, what should I expect?
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>>551704491
E1 is just a damage boost
E2 fundamentally changes your gameplay. you always open with at least an OK hand, and you get +1 start-of-turn card draw at the start of the turn on most turns (always on the first).
E2 doesn't otherwise actually influence your damage numbers, instead just making sereniel pretty much the most consistent character in the game by default.
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>>551704730
And you're a seething child with the vocabulary of a five year old. Shut the fuck up before I find your mom's onlyfans and send her your posts.
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>>551704369
You should not do lab zero then. Lab 0 has two advantages: the unique gear and the unique cards. The important unique gear are the DPS event drops, while the important cards don't fit every build (and a really strong sereniel won't have data to spare something like a confiscation).

If you decide to give up on getting the gear, do City of Mist, the events there are far superior. The ore vein being trash is just the start, it has less removal events, the card conversion is rarer and only appears once, there are less chances to hit a divine in an event and so on.
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>>551704730
Good job, your post is entirely unrelated with what I said
Go back to your shitty discord and livestream your suicide there
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>>551704886
I do Lab 0 because it's free and because I can reroll the debuffs.
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>>551704730
Holy based
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Whats the best team to babysit Selena through a memory tier 14/15 chaos so I can farm her ravage support deck?
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>>551704491
E2 Seriniel+Veronica ballista reload+mika AP auto clear abyss
It took an hour but definitely worth it, I'm going to try auto the weekly stage next reset
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>>551704859
Please include a big fat donation, she need it
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>>551705026
If it was another character I'd agree but Sereniel is so cracked she can crush even bad debuffs.
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Haven't been here in a while but good to know Yukifags are still the most insufferable cucks around these places.
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it's always morally correct to cheat on a gacha leaderboard
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Just did some chaos runs with e0p0 Sereniel with a mid build and lacking potentials paired with a shitty Selena.
This character is retardedly broken. Is this supposed to be good for the game?
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>>551705240
Yes.
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Didn't ask
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>>551705240
no
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I asked
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>>551704792
>>551705045
Welp guess I got E3 Sereniel now, thanks anons.
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>>551705240
Yes
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Didn't answer
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>>551705240
It was supposed to be good for the devs bank account, probably.
I did two runs with her and every encounter ended in 1-2 turns. Every other bit of content in the game that I have been bringing her two has her delete everything in one turn, and her memory fragments aren't the best and her potential is hardly touched.
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>>551705131
Well I don't like change and I've spent the last month farming Lab 0 all day every day to get save data for my combatants and I tell you what, Chizuru didn't require this much farm. One run and she was through. Sereniel seems to require a lot of work and wants me to do something different to what I'm used, and on top of that I think her design doesn't match anyone else in the game. Fuck Sereniel honestly going to leave her at E0.
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explode you lucknigger
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>>551705240
Start bitching when real PvP comes up.
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>>551705240
Does she need basic card potential? I already maxed her unique, crit and ccirt damage
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>>551705240
No, it's definitely bad for the health of the game with chaos. Every run is just going to be Sereniel carrying 2 other characters. I accidentally did a 130 lab 0 instead of an 80 and didn't realize until I got to the last boss, it's that bad.
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>>551704886
>it has less removal events
? you can guarantee two removals right from the start, the free removal isn't rare and there are many others.
removal is something that lab0 does nto lack
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>>551705240
Have another (You)
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>>551705437
Might as well go for E4 now. Also explode.
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>>551705718
>Every run is just going to be Sereniel carrying 2 other characters
That's fucking good it mean we finally have reliable dogwalker
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Who is your favorite character so far?
I like Renoa. her design is pretty and she's fun to use.
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>>551706015
I never lost with Mika + Veronica, obviously Sereniel is a tier higher but reliability wasn't the issue. It's now just an issue that the other dog walkers are irrelevant.
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>>551705240
It feels that way because all her epis are good unlike huh literally every other character in the game

Playing Sereniel is like always getting the correct epis on your characters
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>WAH, Why did they think aerial strikers were ok? Now I cannot go hunt deer or kill rabbits without bringing my areal striker. Sucks all the fun out of it. This is SO BAD...
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>>551705718
>>551706015
I'd rather take Veronica for the better copy RNG.
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>>551705240
I think Sereniel's fine for the game. There's already a few enemy types that punish her play style and there could always be more going forward. She's how I want all the characters to feel. "Damn, this character's good when her game plan's in motion. But oh wait, maybe I'm better off bringing someone else to this fight." I want to feel good bringing Yuki to fights with three or more enemies. I want to feel clever for deciding Haru would be great against this enemy that punishes you for playing too many cards in one turn. I don't want characters to feel subpar unless they're countered by telegraphed mechanics.
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>>551702121
I don't have Cassius...
The skellybro won't spook me...
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>>551705240
It's very good for the health of the game that free 4*s are getting nerfed while Limited units like Sereniel are being released. Hopefully this trend continues. Personally, I'd like to see Selena nerfed next, ideally alongside Mei Lin nerfs, and then we can start nerfing characters like Hugo and Luke as well. If we band together, we might be able to see a future where the only units on any leaderboard, ever, are all Limited. I'd even like to see the devs walk back their statement about there being no Limited units. I think all players would agree too. If Yuki and Chizuru and Haru are the types of non-Limited characters we get, and Sereniel is the type of Limited character we get, I think we all can agree we'd rather live in a world where every 5* banner character is Limited and all the 4* units are nerfed into unusability.
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Didn’t read.
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>>551706237
>play chaos
>don't get frustrated because my epiphanies decide to fuck me
>get to just play the fucking run without feeling sabotaged without recourse
crazy how that works
if only this feeling wasn't unique to ONE character
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>>551705574
Let's hope that money goes to czn instead of epic shit or miresi
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>100% tenacity damage
how does it even work on this card? does it affect afterglow?
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>>551706113
I'm still waiting for someone to powercreep Kayron animation
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>>551706237
>>551706512
All other characters will get the Sereniel epiphany treatment, we just have to hold on until February. Trust the plan.
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>>551706650
the card by default deals 0 cost worth of Tenacity damage. it doubles that. THEN afterglow factors in
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>>551706650
The tenacity damage boost does get increased by afterglow iirc so your laser should rape your enemy tenacity bar.
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>>551706715
>All other characters will get the Sereniel epiphany treatment, we just have to hold on until February.
Lil bro thinks "balance adjustments" means "buffs" rather than "nerfs"
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>>551706676
apparently kayron was important for the story before the rework. he was probably gonna be a limited
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>>551706715
Well that's what they said they'll do. For example, the Yuki's buff is giving her a viable single target build.

The question is if it will work.

In any case, there are some egregious cases of characters that absolutely don't want to pick anything but a couple of Epis

One is Hugo's Upgrade, if you don't pick the Initiation ones you might as well quit the run
And even worse, mr. top 1 Cassius. Why do his other Quest epis even exist? Why wouldn't you always use the "Choose the quest" one?
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>>551706113
I really like Veronica's design and appreciate how she slots in to basically any team. I wish her play style was a bit more proactive, but it's hard to complain about how effective it is.
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limiteds are allowed to be broken
the characters before the next limited will be chizuru tier, enjoy
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>>551705240
She made chaos less annoying to run
Yes she's good for the game and also for the dev's wallet
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>>551706925
because technically quest choosing is only needed for side 2 teams
if he's on side 1, you can just take the initiation one and retry the run until you get the quest you want always on turn 1.
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>>551707027
Nah Narja is confirmed Veronica for Sereniel
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>>551705740
If you decide to guarantee the removal on start, you give up on the chance of getting the rare event/leadership fates which are some of the most powerful tools you have for shaping a better deck you can get. You can still work for those if you have the patience to reset after the checkpoint, but that becomes very tiring fast.

If you take events into account, lab 0 has one rare card conversion, one rare double remove and one nearly guaranteed common remove. these are all outskirts too, it's very pathetic. For comparison, City of mist has three nearly guaranteed common removals (one of which can be a convert), two rare removals (one of which is a double) one common conversion and a rare conversion too. And that is a weaker planet removal wise, if you compare it to something like blue pot, Lab 0 is even worse, so they're often winning even if you reset for the Kyrken buff. People always focus on the weaker copy event, but Lab 0 events in general are incredibly weak if you don't get the rare ones.
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>>551706925
>The question is if it will work.
Before Sereniel, I would have told you absolutely no way in hell it'll work.
Now I'm questioning my prior assumptions and wondering if maybe they've been malicious rather than retarded this whole time they were designing the other characters.
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>>551707027
>the characters before the next limited will be chizuru tier
Tipheretbros...
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THERE IS NOTHING TO FUCKING DO
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>>551707027
>limiteds are allowed to be broken
>the characters before the next limited will be chizuru tier
THIS. We like this. This is what CZN is all about.
You forgot the part where we nerf 4*s though. Selenafag days are numbered.
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I love Kayron and he's really fun but I haven't played him in weeks in favor of other units.
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>>551707185
They're 100% retarded, as if they're malicious or not maybe it's too early to tell. Everything they've done so far is pure retardation rather than greed
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>>551707116
Or you can be me and retry the entire side 1 until you get the right quest with Cassius on side 2 because you can't be assed to get the right epiphany.
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>>551707196
Isn't Tipheret the last character of season 2?
Limited and OP. Passion healer/support for Mei Lin to bring back to the glorious days of CHINA NUMBA ONE
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>>551707185
>Now I'm questioning my prior assumptions and wondering if maybe they've been malicious
Like the other anon said, they are 100% retarded, but also I think they're malicious. They have not told the god damn truth about fucking ANYTHING yet. It's all been lies. I believe the conspiracy theory that Yuki and Chizuru were "bricks" on purpose and that Sereniel is good on purpose, as a Limited unit. I wholeheartedly believe that. But they are also retarded, and they are also malicious. If they're not being malicious about kit design, they're being malicious with their lying.
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>>551707302
>>551707509
Okay but then how did they manage to make almost all of Sereniel's epiphanies good without accidentally making one of them a hundred times better than the others like every other character? Just luck?
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>>551707504
>Isn't Tipheret the last character of season 2?
>Limited and OP.
No. Narja is the Haru of Season 2, and we only know the first 2 characters - Nine and Tipheret. They didn't reveal the 3rd character of the season... which makes me think that the 3rd (or 4th, depending on your count) unit of every season is going to be Limited. Why else would they not show the last unit of the season?
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>>551707504
narja is pre-season 2, similar to haru being pre-season 1.
they didn't reveal the last character of season 2, presumably because they're the next limited. or maybe they're just not done yet.
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>>551707571
Yuki + Chizuru feedback, also she has some slightly bad ones you almost never want to pick, but they're like 1 per card

Like yeah ok she's overtuned because she's limited, but that's not the issue, the issue is that her card kit is good description wise. She doesnt really have a "GET FUCKED BY A GAY LION IN THE ASS" epis like 70% of Chizuru's entire arsenal
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>>551707645
I'm guessing it'll be Euphina
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>>551707504
>Isn't Tipheret the last character of season 2?
We don't fucking know yet. They revealed three characters, but Narja will be released before season 2 starts. We have no idea if this means we'll follow a 1 off season, 2 seasonals, 1 limited format, if season 2 will be shorter, whether it'll even have a limited or not, nothing. Best thing to do is to make sure you don't roll anyone week 1 unless you're really horny for Tiphera like I am.
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>>551706113
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>>551707843
Same. Narja and Euphina look cut from the same cloth.

>>551707848
>if season 2 will be shorter
They said before that seasons are all 9 weeks.
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>>551707843
who?
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>>551707848
Me too, I'd rather just quit than not roll Tiphera. Bet 3rd character is going to be another ugly fat bitch anyway.
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>>551707976
Big hand slime girl, she's an order psionic probably. She applies a debuff called shock which procs when the enemy is attacked. She also has a card that just activates all order cards in your hand.
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>>551707976
Ms. Hands
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>>551708178
>>551708157
Oh right. Ms Hand.

I hope she's a damage dealer at this point, Narja is getting cucked into support role... Not that I mind in this game but still
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Season 2:
>Instinct
>Passion
>Justice
>Order
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>>551708306
Do you think she can take off her massive hands for the home screen or are they attached to her?
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>>551708539
They look attached to the suit, it's probably a combat suit she can wear off

I bet her lobby art will be her naked inside a cryobath or something kinda like Cyberpunk
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i did the memoir quest today and man yuki really sucked ass. i thought she was supposed to be good?
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>>551708886
that yuki is shit. mine dishes out 1k+ crits at least...
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>>551705240
>release three characters back to back so bad that everyone wishes for powercreep
>take this as an opportunity to also include fomo with said powercreep
>get praise and be applauded
actual 200 IQ gook move
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>>551708325
She's a subdps that works really well with Luke and Yuki
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>>551708306
She'd be better off without the huge tits. It distracts from her hands.
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>>551708306
imagine the handjobs
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>>551709142
sorry but they need the non existent passionlips fanbase
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We need a Euphina-like character but with huge feet.
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>>551709343
When are we getting the Meltlilith clone then? I'll whale for that.
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>>551709343
passionlip huge ass claws always creeped me out, euphina's hands look comfy and soft
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>>551709356
you need to be shot
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>>551709343
When are we getting the BB clone (extra slutty) then?
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Well, it's been a good run bros, unfortunately my aether capped for a few hours so I'm going to have to reroll my account now.
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>>551710684
be sure to give me the credentials to your next account. i'll spend your aether for you.
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>>551674762
It's bad at generating lasers unless you have the move to hand on turn start homing laser with a bunch of copies.
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>>551709343
What we need is the Kingprotea fanbase.
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>characters before director assumed direct control
>Interesting
>Varied
>Unique
>Characters after
>Thick thighs
>Giant tits
>Generic
We won't survive with director in charge of character designs
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I'm gonna miss this nigga bro
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>>551675145
>>551676563
Swap to a instinct goblet.
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>eventually all the popular e7 characters will be in this game
>Game will just be a dedicated ml theater for e7
I saw the future in a dream.
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is this good for leaderboard stuff or just a meme build?
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>>551710973
All I need to survive are bad bitches, cool monsters, and intense violence. I need to be full mast whenever I lose a Chaos run.
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>>551677365
No it's a meme, too easy to lose the damage boost.
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Mutant spike or the purple orb on sereniel?
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>>551711290
You can reach plat/low diamond with this
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>>551711498
Orb.
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Best memory fragments sets for Selena?
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>>551711498
I'm a purple-tubed orbcel
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>>551711323
holy puffies, sauce?
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>>551711243
The Nightmare is Ongoing...
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>>551711608
whats with the unrelated ugly bitch?
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>>551711608
Akane owes me netorase (I've just been using two piece combo sets, wing, tetra, executioner)
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>>551711243
And that’s a good thing. We need E7 sluts.
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>>551705037
I'm seconding this anon's question cause my Selena just reached level 50. Once she is 55 I'm gonna farm a deck.
>>551711727
Thanks
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>>551711685
>sauce?
nta, but it's some sloppa from here. That's the best Mei Lin he made. I'm not that much of a fan of his other stuff. Some of it's good, but most of them I didn't even save. That Mei Lin image is his best work imo.
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this shit slaps lmao
too bad I missed a copy
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>>551712258
coordinated attack divine is always fun
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>>551711945
>sloppa
cool, wonder what's his style mix. could try genning some too
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>>551711685
VoltaicMeteor, I just do random gens on a whim. Not a ton of CZN in there though but there's a handful. It's pretty unorganized and has a lot of contentious shit, you've been warned.

>>551711945
It's definitely the one I'm most proud of, CZN wise
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>Extra attacks don't count as a hit to reduce stack effects so a enemy can just tank over 6k+ in dirge bullet damage.
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>>551712514
nta but he never shared from what i've seen
however it's quite obvious that krekkov is the primary basis for his sloppa
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>>551712672
>VoltaicMeteor
thanks, i'll try it out
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>>551712672
>Meow appreciator
based
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>>551712701
>Extra attacks don't count as a hit to reduce stack effects
It varies. Some do some don't. The Wolf boss in lab zero gets fucked by bullets/ballistas but the weekly boss doesn't. There is no indication of when it will or will not work.
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>>551712820
That's Twitter, I forgot to mention
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>>551712884
Home run of a starter
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>>551713308
What kind of breakdown makes your nipples like this? Asking for Narja.
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>do the seasonal boss before reset
>only 430k in one run cus im a shitter
>do normal to finish it up and get the last 80k points
>get 480k
Have i just been doing this wrong and im supposed to fight the boss on easy for maximum points?
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>>551713983
The captain uses space age vibrator tech to reduce combatant stress during breakdowns just like it was originally designed for.
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>>551714248
You are supposed to fight it where you can defeat it.
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>>551713983
Can't you read? It's CDDise.
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>>551713983
Whatever that AI sloppa put there
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>another case of 3% remaining for boss to get ravaged
this is actually infuriating. almost made me fucking destroy my phone
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https://files.catbox.moe/fnlxdi.jpg
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Does the forbidden hunger strat require another Precision Aim? If so I might put it on Sereniel
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Should I even bother trying on the leaderboard if I don't have Cassius in my account? I hate their guts for having the gall of releasing such a broken 4*, never put him on banner and then proceed to release a ladder
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Why is it always Owen? Where’s the genderbent Gayron/Luke/Cassius?
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Make it yourself you crybaby
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>>551716848
meant for >>551716701
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i have slop fatigue
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Today I learnt, the toughness damage boost doesn't apply to the one coming from afterglow
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Nyo.
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I have female fatigue
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I have senmetsu fatigue
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I have chronic fatigue.
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>>551717396
cobalto wingo
senmetsu
senmetsu
senmetsu
senmetsu
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>>551716445
Deck searching can't be that strong
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Where's the nono slop?
Honestly this game needs a lot more slim and slender girls instead of making everyone a fat cow.
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I have fatigue fatigue
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this could have been a pretty good one with the correct plasma laser
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>>551717905
Athletes and explorers in general have slender trained bodies not tits bigger than their heads and fatter than the average american
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what the fuck does the middle one mean?
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>>551718239
Some cards can be played multiple times before they exhaust
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>>551718239
increase the amount of time you can exhaust them by 2
not that complicated
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>>551718306
>>551718318
I guess thats the best choice then
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Is this the build to aim for?
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I'm still alive you fucking homo
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Sereniel is like the dumbest shit ever. You just face roll everything with her E2
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>>551715892
Unironically game would be better if all the male characters got genderbent and the furry shit was completely removed
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>>551718491
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Good Day Chaosbros.
Remember to attend the mass today, and pray to the Lord to bless your chaos runs.
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Friend of mine told me some of his dating experience on Christmas.

>meet girl
>"Oh, just me and my 5 dogs. Here, look at some pictures of us!"
>literally her bent over ready to get fucked

>meet girl
>"I'm really into true crime. I really love Ted Bundy."

>meet girl
>"Yeah, so, like uuh I'm like really into social media. I got an insta where I like uh post uh pictures like Kim Kadeshien like uh."

>meet girl
>"So, I'm writing a journal that I have to send my dad daily and I am not allowed to lie on it. He needs to know everything I did every day."
>ask her how old she is again
>"28, why?"

And my parents wonder why I have no interest in meeting anyone. He is also unfortunately forced to date by his parents.
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>>551710973
harsh but true
we need to get rid of him
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>>551718894
wow! my wife looks so hot! I bet her boyfriend Owen told her to dress this way
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>>551719290
no one asked about how your day went, that girl might be writing a journal to her dad but you are writing one to people you dont even know about while you are pushing 30, get a grip retard
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>>551718894
pixai is literal dogshit at least use better slop you jeet
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>>551719507
hit a nerve huh?
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>>551719517
its hard to afford GPUs in india....
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>>551719517
looks good to me, seen way worse
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>>551719290
thanks for sharing it with the class
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>>551719623
>>551719641
samefag
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is it worth it to play now or did I miss on a lot of stuff?
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>>551719649
I wish Khalipe looked like that
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change the app icon to hugo if you want your game to survive gook devs
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>>551719290
The funniest story I've heard is that a girl at work told one of my work friends that she wants to set him up with one of her friends for a blind date. He agrees, then he goes for the blind date, and it's actually the girl herself, not one of her friends. He didn't like her btw.
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>>551719753
Reroll for Sereniel+Veronica and facefuck the game
She makes every previous character irrelevant
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>>551719591
More like he hit yours in a way that left you all red in your face. You need some introspection, faggot.
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>>551719869
guess he got blindsided
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>>551719753
if you are jobless then sure, pick the game up
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>>551719753
Just in time to get all the Xmas+NY freebies plus the strongest character in the game
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>>551719961
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What’s with the influx of new players?
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Is this an ok cope deck?
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>>551720224
good roadmap, good current unit, big boob
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>>551719753
>is it worth it to play now
If you like Slay the Spire or Chrono Ark and you can afford to sink a LOT of playtime into a gacha game, then sure.

>did I miss on a lot of stuff?
You missed out on over 100 free rolls of apologibs as well as a free Amir that they aren't giving away anymore for some reason. Amir isn't very good, so that's not a big deal, but it's still pretty shitty that they aren't giving it away anymore. You can still probably grind out the free dupe from the event shop before the season ends though.
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this seasons almost over and i still don't what memory encroachment does
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>>551720224
CZN was always the most popular game of late 2025 despite the constant /vmg/ melties or gook melties.
It sure helps that Sereniel is absurdly overpowered while the other game that released around the same time as us has a pretty dogshit xmas character
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>>551720224
hopenigs falseflagging. games on its way to eos city
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>>551720463
Memory encroachment used to buff the final boss of exterior to a hilarious fuck you degree but they changed it so it only effects the final enemy of the tunnel so it's a big nothingburger mechanic now
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>>551720265
>cope
nigger what more do you want
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Selena worth the materials to level up?
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>>551720837
I'd hold off leveling anyone until the buffs are announced if you can help it honestly.
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>>551704730
Kek Yuki makes trannies chimp out guaranteed.
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>>551718409
I'd prefer the upgrade that creates 2 and then 2 by ravage but yeah. This means Sereniel would be able to spam those way more than usual.
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>>551720224
FGO ending aka EoS next year so newcuties are looking for new game
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>>551705718
That makes no sense in order for her to carry you need non unique cards as well, so she gets in the way for copying and maybe even epiphanies. What’s the point of dog walking if you can’t build the deck?
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>>551718732
I don't mind some furry here and there
https://files.catbox.moe/hko4wq.jpg
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>>551720265
From what I see your deck would be capable of keeping a constant amount of lasers in the graveyard with that quantity of shining cores and extra exhausts. Though it'd probably have some issues in the early part of the battle before you accumulate them.
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>>551721091
Did they really go for the boring salaryman ending?
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>>551721636
Wdym boring? That's peak Japanese literature
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>>551712258
Update: yeah it's a pretty strong deck
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>>551721448
Thanks
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>>551721717
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>>551721901
c-chowayo..
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Stop posting that thing.
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What thing is he talking about?
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>>551722413
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devs made Sereniel too strong and there’s no strategy to any combat now you just spam lasers
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>>551722729
Senmetsu
Senmetsu
Senmetsu
Senmetsu
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devs made Tressa too strong and there’s no strategy to any combat now you just spam daggers
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>>551722729
There is no interesting content. The current leaderboard boss is designed specifically to show off Serenial. No challenge. No engagement mechanics.
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>>551722729
>PvE
If you don't like it then don't use her, turboretard
>but muh stickers
turboretard
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>>551723013
Constructed is never good. It's only interesting as a chance to revisit decks made in chaos.
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>>551722729
nah sereniel is mid
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>>551722901
>strategy
>in a game
>where you die in 2-3 turns
L
O
L
E
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>>551724057
have you considered installing the game? It's fun, I promise.
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I'm bored of Sereniel, next seasonal when?
>inb4 next season
Next season when?
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>>551724179
after your scheduled dosage of bricks
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>>551718463
I guess I don't have good game theory because I could play for 10000 hours and never once intentionally build a deck with those epiphanies and copies.
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>say game is too easy and requires no strategy
>doesn't post rank
Oh we're doing this again kek
So what's the excuse now that we don't have to farm chains anymore?
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>>551724162
have you considered necking yourself? youd do the world a massive favor, I promise.
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>>551724509
Too busy shitposting here of course.
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>>551724485
youtubers arent known for being good at videogames
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I played five hours of Chaos Zero Nightmare and had fun with the game.

Recommended it to friends and helped them with their builds too. Might consider buying a pack later too since the game has been treating me well and things are looking up for the game!
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>>551724969
Please let me suck your cute penis PLEASE
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>>551724969
Based Rei of hope!
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devs listenend :O
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I'm tired of needing to spend an entire week's worth of stamina to feel like I'm doing anything at all.
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>>551725664
I like it, real feeling of pride and accomplishment
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>>551725664
name a gacha that doesnt do this
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>>551725664
2x simulation soon
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>>551725753
This is the first gacha I've ever played where I can't immediately max out a character as soon as I pull them.
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>>551725664
Same. I just want to be done with materialslop and potentialslop so I can minmax the memory fragments.
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Spending my pulls feels so wrong bros.. I now have sereniel's partner but I only have 200 pulls left. What happens if they release two cool characters in a row? f2p life is stressful..
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>>551725803
Sounds like a skill issue
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>>551724742
He has a top 1% score on great rift...
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>>551725803
every gacha does this, retard
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>>551725882
>What happens if they release two cool characters in a row?
But we literally know the next 3 characters?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erftG0-uZMA
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>>551725882
We already know what all the characters from next season are except the final potential Limited character. I'm fucked because I really want Narja, but judging by Sereniel, the only character you should ever pull for is the final unit of the season.
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Space sluts are here to stay, homos.
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>>551725921
Not with that deck he doesn't
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Doomcucks and spambots lost
HopeCHADS won
Zero out on all despair!!!
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>>551726029
I meant cool gameplay-wise. If they synergize with the characters I like then I simply must pull
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>>551726029
TIPHERA SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH
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>>551725803
Really makes you think huh?
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Any of you saving your Omega codes or did you already use them on Sereniel?
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>>551725882
>What happens if they release two cool characters in a row?
They won't lol. Look. We had Haru, Yuki, and Chizuru. I have absolutely ZERO expectation of any of the next 3 combatants being worth a single anchor.
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I want to farm blue pot for Serena, would it be wise to get a character with AoE for the boss or would I just get far enough with Mika/Mei Lin
That thing keeps filtering me.
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you literally can't get to top 100 because its whalebait this time
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>>551726781
I'm saving them E6 the anniversary limited
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>>551726781
I'm a gacha veteran. I undertand the extreme value of an universal dupe specially since we are so early into the game.
in 1 year i will have enough to max dupe any character in the game and at that point every single character released so far will be powercreeped and the new year busted limiteds will come.
I will be able to max dupe for free.

This is the correct way of playing.
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>>551726960
Really hope it's Luche, that would be insta E6.
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>>551726781
I’m saving for Luche or Tenebria. Whichever comes first.
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>>551726761
Post not cropped
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>>551726939
>this time
And every other time in the future, forever.
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Is Sereniel's +50% Ravage set the best one for her?
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>>551726919
Mei Lin really wants veronica on the team, she's bad with selena
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Should I spend 15 rolls and get my Hugo now?
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>>551727806
gross no
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its actually insane how 4* in this game need the same resources to level as the 5*
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I'm going to touch Veronica
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>>551727806
Obviously. Every second you don't have Hugo is another second you don't have his knot in you.
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>>551726781
I want to e2 my Chizuru but I'm holding out just incase they add a character who tickles my sensibilities more than her.
The correct play is probably saving up two then spending at will afterwards because atm every character gets their last functional buff at e2 and everything afterwards is number increases to varying degrees
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>>551727952
But I'm not gay...
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>>551728232
then why are you rolling for useless homo
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>>551728232
You don't have to lie anymore anon...
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>>551728315
How is he useless?
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>>551673758
She sealed a demon that was destroying her people. 0way for her to kill it so she is looking for a way to kill it.
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>holding control is bad fast forward
>good fast forward requires you to hold down the fast forward button on the screen
I hate it
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What fragments for selena?
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>>551674068
Corrupteds are toggles as of right now. You either have their base kit or toggle on corruption for corruption kit.
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>>551728854
Are you living in launch week or something? People shilled Hugo like he was the best character ever made then when Cassius tech was discovered, nobody even remembered Hugo existed because he doesn't work in other teams and other characters want other people.

If you're a zzz player and crave furry dick then pick him up else he's just dog, literally and figuratively.
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>>551726939
>>551727194
I'm F2P and started 1 week late and I'm rank 83 currently.
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>>551727558
>>551727558
>>551727558
plz...
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>>551729538
just put the orange set on the orange character man
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>>551729693
but is it the best one
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>>551729426
Small world, I'm also f2p and rank 83
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>>551729858
Whats your Sereniel deck and team?
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>>551729426
Pay them no mind, shitters will be shitters no matter what. They can't into strategy and card games.
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>>551729967
this one >>551712258
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>these faggots are UNIRONICALLY caring about this leaderboard whaleshit
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>f2p btw
sure is seaniggers hours here
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See? You mention anything resembling competition where the best players are found out and weeded from the losers, and you get these seething moron nitwits who have the brain capacity of a burnt artichoke.

Fact is the higher you are on the leaderboard, the better of a player you are and the more respect you deserve.
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Ummmm, you guys told me top 100 this season was for whales…
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>>551729783
Yes. But if you have good 2pc atk 2pc crit fragments lying around, you can use that instead
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Does Sereniel's homing lasers on ravage count as drawing?
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Left or right?
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>>551730742
Left 100%
You can ravage the entire board and get 6 extra homing lasers per turn.
With bunny you can get even more depending on how many ravage reset cards you have.
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>>551730721
Move only counts as draw if it comes from the deck, but I'm not sure if that even counts as an ability
>>551730742
Left is probably still better, right definitely isn't worth the save data points
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I'm on the brink...
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Bruh
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What's with leaderboard decks using Plasma Missile Upgrade thay do dmg at end of turn? I thought it sucked?
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>>551731542
Wait can you get a potential 0 AP or +1 AP Cobalt Light?
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>>551731642
Whaleshit.
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Which one should I get? I feel like right would be good for bossing.
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>>551727004
It is not, once you e6 the anni limited their will be a second anni, if you are not saving your codes for the inevitable collab limited then I am simply sorry for you
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>>551732018
Left if E0.
Right if E2.
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>>551673542
Who is the current banner?
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>>551732018
kinda depends on the rest of your deck
the laser-based epip, for generating homing lasers, is second only to the shining core upgrade epip in all of sereniel's deck. i'd probably say it's the best option here unless you are totally overwhelmed on homing laser generation already.
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>>551731642
>upgrade (doesn't clog your deck)
>unique (doesn't clog your copy pool)
It's not terribly impactful, though.
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>>551732018
Left if you don't already have the shining core epi that gives a ton of lasers, right if you do. Right DOES do a shitload of damage on big bosses, but having enough lasers to fuel spam is more important overall. But you can easily get TOO MANY lasers too, so it's a careful balancing act.
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Which save data is better, with and without Rei?
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I was having such a good run and you KICK ME IN THE BALLS
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>>551732925
>having enough lasers to fuel spam is more important overall. But you can easily get TOO MANY lasers too, so it's a careful balancing act.
My favorite part of Sereniel's deck. Optimally, you want the perfect balance between laser generation and laser usage, but even if you fail to achieve it, it's still flexible enough to work in a suboptimal state.
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>>551733220
I like the first one more
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>>551732738

I thought the +60% laser dmg epi is worth the slot but I guess it's not that consistent and we don't need instinct weakness for the leaderboard boss.....
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>>551731642
isn't it broken? it deals +30% for every laser you move to hand every turn and leaderboard decks are moving at least 15 lasers to hand every turn.
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UCHIMAS
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Is atk% better or worse than instinct damage% ?
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>>551733936
Worse
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>>551733281
>farming deck with nia
holy based retard
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>>551733763
Not really. The most I've seen mine do is 2800, and my Triple 0 is doing 8k by the end of the turn.
>>551733609
Yeah it might be worth, depending on how much draw you have. I'd be happy to run a deck with either, but realistically I'm going to pick the unique one if I can just to save me from the copy rng.
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>>551733763

450% attack is like, one or two extra missiles worth of damage at most
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So you only farm lab0 or city of mist for sereniel right, because of foggy crystal ball?
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>>551686940
>>551686852
the fuck are we, some kind of hoyo game?
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>>551734437
yes, and you get that every turn for playing one card. how much is one play of any other epipis of plasma missile doing?
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>>551734748
The bug world is fine too, it drops a good ravage weapon for Sereniel.
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>>551734974
Whats about this thing? It gives 15%atk, almost match Cthulu's gun which gives 18% atk
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>>551733936
Worse, but I still use an atk% one since I have double crit with 15% crit value in substats on it. Farming for a good instinct cup is pure hell.
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>>551735127
best item in bug world! best accessory in game!
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>>551735127
Looks solid. Never got a good deck with it, though. I had no opportunity to test it.
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>>551732476
Sereniel
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>>551735128
odds of getting atk% desire are exactly the same as getting instinct% desire.
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>>551684996
>26
You don't love her
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>>551686282
Sauce
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>>551684996
that CD is kinda...
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>>551735127
Where does Sereniel put this...?
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>>551735549
stella floppa
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which chizuru cards do i copy
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This really activates every time the opponent is already ravaged? So I can just get +1 hit for free essentially? Feels like this would be the best min-max damaging epiphany to get instead of the one that moves to hand at the start of the turn.
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is this just a little too bloated?
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>>551688006
Yukisister!!!
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>>551735854
no shit, i meant sereniel. fucking coomer op pic
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>>551735383
Thank you
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hmmm senmetsu nyes
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I got Hugo
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>>551736724
KnotCHAD
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>>551736724
HuGOD will carry your early game be grateful
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>>551735873
Mmmm nyes its ass, you lose after glow so good luck breaking anything!!!!!!!!
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>>551736724
For a second I thought this was the other thread
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>>551695572
Post some my penis awaits.
The lewder yet mainstream the better
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Ended up with a strange deck. What would be the ideal combination of laser epi? 2x move at turn start + 1 create laser L?
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>>551736724
nice me too
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>>551735415
Maybe I should have worded it better - upgrading goblets is expensive and not really worth the effort if you already have a decent one. I had a nice executioner piece on a different character so I gave it to Sereniel.
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Finally got her.
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>>551736909
He falls off late game?
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games mid i dropped it
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>>551737675
cassius dickmogs him
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>>551705240
yes, it is retarded how broken she is
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I dropped wuwa for czn
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>>551737675
he only falls off in comparison to mei lin and sereniel and pre-nerf tressa. he's a solid guy. don't listen to the metafags
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>>551705240
No but it doesn't harm me in any way whatsoever compared to a pvp kusoge
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>>551738395
I plan to use him with Tressa since she's cute and fun to play
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>>551738279
>Find Chisa (optional)
My excitement for 3.0 reached 0% and I'm only 15 minutes in the main quest. What the fuck happened to the writing team?
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>>551737675

He needs Tressa, while Tressa doesn't need him, and tressa is getting nerfed.
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>>551737546
condolences
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>>551737546
Congrats, she's one of my fav badass bruiser. Very fun to play, make sure to unlock her counter node
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>skip chizuru because of metafaggotry and the overabundance of void DPS despite being one of my favourite designs
>she ends up being arguably the best team for sereniel
A-at least I have a good spook to look forward to... r-right?
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I don't have Khalipe, but she should work very with Magna, no? Magna has a lot of upgrades so she benefits from retain early on, and several high cost cards to activate Celestial.
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>>551740538
>she ends up being arguably the best team for sereniel
even after the cassius nerfs she will probably be paired with nia rather than her, though
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>>551710165
Unironically what is BB's appeal besides big tits
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>>551740680
Cassius is getting nerfed as well? I thought it was only Tressa.
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My reign of terror is almost over.....
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>>551741562
She's kinda creepy. A good portion of her doujinshis is her trapping her Master in some weird rewind dimension where she does anything she wants with him for all eternity.
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>>551741598
>there are achievements for this
nani
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Uchini no _____
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>>551709343
>non existent passionlips fanbase
Only because the censored FGO design killed all interest in her.
The original design is still goated.
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who is after big titty girl
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>>551712672
Please do more puffy nipple big areola shit
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>>551742045
>big titty girl
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Next characters:
Narja (Pre S2)->Nine->the blonde hebe
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>>551741745

Yes, and I just learned that the stat doesn’t decrease when a disaster strikes if it’s already really low (mine was 19 at the time).
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Cassius and Sereniel powers are being limited by handsize
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When farming decks, fate doesn’t ever affect the deck itself right? Would I lose out if I just reset fast all day and just working with the lazy fate? Or would it screw me over? I can’t afford to do this if I run shitters like Yuki but Sereniel seems good enough to not care.
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>>551741885
>That face
More like sharted
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>>551742320
Doesn't matter, just makes your run harder.
Depending on your modifiers, some Fates might be useful, like the Credit earning ones when you have a debuff from earning Credits from combat, but that's really it.
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is balance in the room with us right now
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>>551712714
>Krek
I like his guro
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>>551719797
I want to construct the Khaliphate
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>>551721717
>Go from fucking approximately 140 females daily to sucking your bosses crusty cock
The fastest suicide
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>>551724969
Post ID cutie
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>>551726265
AI her naked
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>>551711290
>1 cost
Imagine if you got a divine -1 cost on this instead
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>>551726761
No one likes tiphera it's just lolinigger cope
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>do 10 pull on beginner battle
>get the cutest girl
Fuck, I thought I'd have to get to 300 on the other banner. What team can I build for Mei Lin? And what should I buy from Nono's shop?
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>>551724969
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They really rigged the score this time huh? Unless you fuck up big time there's no reason to not get close to 900-1million with a Sereniel
It makes you feel good for rolling her. Then you realized to get to 1.2/1.3 million from 1million you need to kill the boss 10-20 times more because of diminishing returns
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>still getting new cuties
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>>551742498
Tressa and tressafags are the problem.
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Is Tiphera even a loli?
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>>551743685
I’m only gold as a new player, don’t have Selena or Rei set up and my 1st team is too weak to kill.
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>>551735806
It's over we can't compete
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>>551743778
Yes.
Anything that doesn't have cow tits is a loli now.
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>>551739107
Explain?
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>>551743778
she looks hebe coded to me
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>>551740661
Nothing works well with manga
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BROS WHICH SERENIEL CARDS DO I COPY
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>>551744137
0 cost laser one.
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>>551744137
Usually the Laser. If you can copy the skill that creates Lasers BEFORE it gets an ephiph it can be good to get 1 copy of the Upgrade and then use the other for whatever
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>>551744137
no one knows
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>>551744137
the one that deals damage
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Who the fuck is Gaya
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>>551743383
You're already set for the top teams.
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Who's bitch this is
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>>551744592
mine
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>>551741519
Now that I think about it, it is pretty lewd that women so visibly display the fact that she allowed someone balls deep in her sugar walls and and she wanted them to shoot their cum all up inside of her.
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sex with Gaya
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>>551744759
...said no one ever!
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Gaya
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Nigga who the fuck is Asuna
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>named gaya
>coat literally says her name is eve
explain it to me, someone
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>>551745071
Its her codename
GA01
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Damn this bitch Erika fine as fuck
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retarded ass shit
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>still no game wiki on characters lores and details
damn this game is all about gameplay shit no wonder we have no fanart as well
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>>551745048
The girl with sweetest smile
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>>551744576
I know since I bought the angel slut+Veronica account. But I really like Mei Lin and want to use her. Both sexually and in-game.
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>e-celeb
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emergency maintenance and delete her from the game
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>>551745230
It's fine as long as it's not Tressa because Tressa was literally free. You should have to pay for that power.
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i am...renoa
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>>551745230
>>551745686
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>>551745686
It's fine because she's a limited unit. This is the true power of limiteds. Yuki and Chizuru are the non-limited power level. Tressa and Cassius are being nerfed to reestablish the power of 4* characters. Everyone agrees this is good for the game. We like this. There is nothing wrong with paying for power in a gacha game. The issue is when power is free.
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poorfaggots seething again
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this is engaging gameplay FUCK I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUN
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>>551745280
Karin is better.
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no one cares lil bro stop spamming
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Finally
Didn't get homing laser dupes (Because it's lab 0) but this shit is good enough
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stop noticing and just swipe, SG needs more shovelware for stove
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>>551745790
This is a gacha first and gacha players like playing gacha. That is, if you have the money. Which you should. Anyone that plays it as complete f2p, like no monthly or BP or anything, is a retard and you should never be on the same playing field as someone that pays. You'd have zero incentive to pay for anything and why would a game with a gacha model thrive through that? It is illogical and does not work. F2p cucks remind me of those woke retards that keep screeching about equality of outcome. You are entitled to shit. Even traditional games discriminate between paying and non-paying customers; you either have the game or you dont.
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>Retarded whores from a dead game and dead thread need to advertise in other generals
Sad state of affairs.
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reminder that 99.9999999% of all players are f2p
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>>551746172
they are not.
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>>551746194
projection
most people take pride on being treated like cucks in a game they spend most of their free time on
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>>551746262
kek. i also like seeing the disillusioned getting raped in real time
>oh, this free unit you got right after tutorial is not breaking the game and making any future releasing unit completely worthless anymore? time doom
like, bruh
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>>551746092
Exactly. It's bad when 4* characters are good. Nerfing 4* characters is good and healthy for the game and is the right thing to do. Everyone agrees. Hopefully they nerf Selena next and replace her with a 5* break character. If you look a the leaderboard and all units are 5* Limited characters, then you will know we have a truly balanced and healthy game.
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i just keep getting fucked by bad draws near the end, damn it

guess i should work on a better selena deck
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>>551746172

And that’s why Reddit/Twitter/Other social media drama never matters.

Most whales have jobs and don’t usually take part in unemployed online gatherings.
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>>551746440
No, nerfing 4* characters that totally break the game need to be nerfed. Why do you keep trying these semantic games like a little bitchass faggot? This is not your discord server where mouthbreathers might fall for it.
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kek destroyed
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>>551746593
>No, nerfing 4* characters that totally break the game need to be nerfed.
Correct. All 4*s that appear on the leaderboard should be nerfed. They are breaking the game. It's much better for the game and healthier in the long run if strong 4* characters are nerfed and their roles are replaced with 5* characters ASAP. We already know Tressa and Cassius are getting nerfed, and we already know Tressa has a 5* version in the future. I'm expecting a "Limited Cassius" at some point as well, which would be where his true power level is. Selena has shown herself to be a problem as well, and we all would be happy to see her nerfed and replaced with a 5* break support unit. Perhaps Narja is this unit. And it's only a matter of time until we have a 5* healer, at which point we can nerf Mika's heals to be 1 cost and give the 0 cost heals to the 5*.

As soon as we nerf the good 4*s and replace them with 5*s, we can be on the road to balance recovery. Ideally by anniversary, leaderboards are only 5* Limited units.
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>unemployed retard from south america keeps shitposting on a barren thread
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>>551746887
Again, a unit like Tressa is so broken that you would need to balance the game around her. She would have ended up either getting nerfed by permanent boss modi or we would have gotten an insane powercreep that would have been unhealthy for any game that is out for two mere months. Anyone with a brain recognized that and your sarcastic SEAnigger ass can go kill itself now.
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>>551746967
you just named all 15 posters here including yourself
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>>551746887
>still conflating 'good' 4 stars with tressa
nigger, tressa is not unlike other 'good' 4 stars. she is better than limited characters. and you get her from the tutorial. are you retarded or something?
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>Forcing the same Tressa nerf ebin issue nonstop
At this point, just get a job you unemployed autists lmao
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>>551747228
CUTE
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>>551747020
>Again, a unit like Tressa is so broken that you would need to balance the game around her.
Exactly. Which is why we need to nerf 4* characters that overperform. It's much better if leaderboards are full of 5* characters, ideally new 5* characters. At least until we can field 2 teams full of Limited characters, then that will be the healthiest scenario for the longevity of the game.

>>551747137
>nigger, tressa is not unlike other 'good' 4 stars.
Right, Cassius is similar to Tressa as well, and those units are getting nerfed. The quick response of the devs to nerfing overperforming 4*s gives me hope that units like Selena will be dealt with as well so that she can be replaced with a 5*. That's what's best for the health of the game.
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>>551747345
See>>551747020
Because you keep saying the same thing. That is not arguing your point, that is repeating yourself without adding anything to your argument. And your argument was already shown to be retardedl flawed.
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tressa is the equivalent of spamming hadouken and winning in bronze ranked matches in street fighter
yeah it's a noob tactic that works very well against other noobs
but once we get bosses with puzzle mechanics, 5+ gauges and timers and 70+ modifiers and nested buffs this shit won't work
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I still don't know what is good and what not. What do I pick here bros?
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>>551747447
If you disagree with me and you think problematic 4* units like Tressa and Cassius don't need to be nerfed, then you'd be wrong, and they are getting nerfed. And you're upset at me for repeating myself, when all you did is literally link your own post to me. I think you're just trying to ragebait me now.
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>>551747595
think for yourself
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>>551747653
Tell us, what makes Selena as broken as Tressa?
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Is there a site that shows every characters optimal decks and also includes the special cards from the seasonal Chaos? I dont know where to look for guides except for P**dwen and that site is kinda meh
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>>551747595
mid
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>>551747668
I'm thinking about getting squished by Mei Lin's thighs. But no clue what card is good, I guess the 1 cost one? idk
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>>551747724
Now you're putting words in my mouth. You are absolutely trolling and ragebaiting.
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>>551747503
this will never happen in a gacha
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>>551746172
This as F2P+ myself I don't want to get lumped together with paypig
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>>551747503
>but once we get bosses with puzzle mechanics
I've played gachas where bosses have puzzle mechanics, and I genuinely do not believe this game is capable of facilitating bosses that have puzzle mechanics. Do you?
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>>551747815
So all "good" 4 stars have their own tierlists inside your head? But based on them merely appearing on the leaderboard is enough for you to warrant a nerf?
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>>551747901
>So all "good" 4 stars have their own tierlists inside your head?
I don't know why you're making up a bunch of weird shit that you are projecting onto me, but I will not participate in your schizophrenic ragebait trolling anymore where you make up things that you think I said.
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Is Sereniel E2 bait or actually good?
sorry if this has been asked multiple times
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kinda shitty epiphany on the homing but ill take it. Feels like the best i can do
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>>551748017
I sometimes go along with retards and their arguments to see how long it will take for them to crumble. Your opinions are flawed fundamentally. A character in a game with a gacha model that you get in the first 10 minutes of the game should not break said game. It is completely unbalanced. That is where the conversation starts and ends. Go back to your debatebro streamer and try to get some more tips on how to argue a losing position better.
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Its funny Tressa is the main unit in this game because on day 1 before i even knew what everyone did i was thinking her playstyle is sick, shes hot and i want to max her out to make her one of my mains
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i am too retarded for the first phase
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>>551748210
>I sometimes go along with retards and their arguments to see how long it will take for them to crumble. Your opinions are flawed fundamentally.
Anon, all you've done for the past 2 posts is that you made up things that you think I said, and you projected that onto me, asking me to argue something I never said. You are schizophrenic, and you are trolling, and you are ragebaiting.

>A character in a game with a gacha model that you get in the first 10 minutes of the game should not break said game. It is completely unbalanced. That is where the conversation starts and ends.
It sounds like we agree then. I don't understand why you're so upset at me for saying something that you agree with. Strange behavior.
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Cassius nerf when
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>>551748074
It definitely unbrick your turn E1 is enough
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>>551747753
Bump because im retarded and have no idea what im doing when farming decks. Im about to do some runs for the weekly thing
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Second Method or Cthullu gun for selena? Ignore Sereniel, she got a bricked save that this run.
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>>551748365
>It sounds like we agree then
We do agree. Now, why do you think Selena needs to be nerfed as well? Can you explain to us what exactly it is in her kit that needs to be nerfed?
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Tressa is cute
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>>551748502
Nope. Sorry. You're too schizophrenic and weirdly hostile towards someone who said something that you agree with. You can go back and reread my posts that you didn't read because you instead substituted your own head canon into them.
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>>551748473
Coordinated attacks are not extra attack so gun
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>>551748660
>crumbling noises
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>>551748668
wait really. Doesn't it work like hugo?
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>>551748702
>unhinged, angry schizo babble
I already answered your question, btw. You just didn't read it. You can go back and read it, little guy.
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>>551748074
it's actually very strong,better add a lot more consistency to her first turns and can allow a lot more OTK.sometimes you just draw 10 cards every turn with homing lasers dupes.
Saying it's bad are f2poor/lucklet cope.
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>>551748768
>>The quick response of the devs to nerfing overperforming 4*s gives me hope that units like Selena will be dealt with as well so that she can be replaced with a 5*
What exactly is it in Selena's kit that makes her "overperform" and needs to be nerfed?
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>>551748780
ok thanks I'll get it then
I can get it as f2poor but then I'll probably need to pony up for narja
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>>551748871
Look at the leaderboard. She's a 4* character, and she's all over it. She needs to be nerfed and/or replaced with a 5* break support character. It could even be Narja, I guess we'll find out. It's weird that you got angry at me for saying something you agree with, and then you got angry because you told me that I'm just repeating myself, and now you're angry at me and forcing me to repeat myself. You are a fucking schizo.
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>>551749037
What exactly is it in Selena's kit that makes her "overperform" and needs to be nerfed?
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Ok guess im forced use Prydwen since this place sucks for getting help. Niggas would rather give troll post yous
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>>551749163
most of us are not gonna write you a full build in a few minutes retard
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>nooooo why is a unit that has a mechanic that perform well in this particular event is broken nerf that shit right now!
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>>551749303
>>551749303
>>551749303
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>>551749248
Thanks for proving my point lol. I was only asking for a link not full build. FUck yourself fagg
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>>551748871
Selena is a tenacityslut
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>>551747897
They've got the foundation with the force-redraw with the second ladder boss. The question is if they will build on it.



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