The Nightmare is Ongoing...>>551673542>Roadmap Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4 [Embed]>Dev notes 12/20https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11551068>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Current/Upcoming Featured BannerSereniel - Instinct - Hunter | Starts Dec24 >>>[***LIMITED***]<<<Narja | Starts Jan14Nine | Starts Feb4Tiphera | Starts Feb25>Current/Upcoming EventsGalactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Ends Jan13The Great Rift - Season 1 Phase 1 | Ends Dec24Chasing the Star's Trajectory - Login Event | 21-day check-in | Ends Jan13>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Check the Rentry
I won. Tressa deserved the nerfs.
nyaggers
>540k is only goldHaha...Gold looks better anyway...
Anon is such a raging faggot instead of staying quiet he cant resist typing when hes called out on his faggotry and proves my point
>>551749418
Starting to get real sick of the gameplay loop. It seems to me there's only two options:>farm Chaos until you get lucky with the copy events and equipment (dozens of hours per character if you want to get a better than average deck)>use the deck to place slightly higher in the leaderboard than you would had you not invested all that timeor>farm Chaos until you get an acceptable deck>use the deck to participate in the event at a basic levelBut since the roguelike plays the same way every time even the latter option has started to feel like a chore. I know they are adding more gameplay options but I don't have a lot of faith and that's a long way off. Think I'll give this game a break and check in at Easter.
not going to bother farming decks right before the new season. 200k is fine, too.
Your days are numbered, Selenafags. She's going to get nerfed and/or replaced. Enjoy her while you can.
Sonya is cute. They should buff monsters and vanguards
>>551749690>long way offroguelite tower is next month
>>551749710Im noobDo the seasonal decks get deleted or somethin
>>551749690>Think I'll give this game a break and check in at Easter.Check back in around March 18th to see if Euphina is Limited or not, and whether we establish the precedent that the 3rd unit each Season (or 4th, depending on where you start counting) is always a Limited.
>>551749826I'll see if I can just grind out dailies until then I guess. Pretty depressing to be facing the prospect to have to then refarm all my old decks in addition to new ones at that time.
>>551749734glad no 4* is as broken as tressa and cassius
A fall off so steep it needs to be studied.
>>551749901its not seasonal content, you'll be able to use decks from any season
>>551749865You keep your decks but you cant use them in the new season. New cards get added and new equipment, maybe balancing as well. But you can still use all your decks in stuff like basin.
>>551749986What isn't? The roguelike tower? Surely we will be building rather than taking decks.
>>551749865They won't get deleted but you won't be able to use then in season 2 events like the leaderboard or the 9/9 boss fights.You can still use them for farming and in basin.
>>551749163https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2PuV9vnyI8&watch this pryden is good too
>tourists switching back to seasonal concern trollingi'm noticing
How does this card work? Is it own card or team's card. Say I put it on Mika. will exhausting Sereniel's card generate a shield?
>>551750248>IF I DONT LIKE A POST ITS TROLLING!!!!!
Has anyone tested whether the Tentacles of Chaos 8% ally attack affect the holder themselves? You know how in games these days the word ally can either mean everyone but that character or it could also mean the whole damn party. Which is it here?
>>551749690you can fuck off right now, doombro
>>551750435>WTF SOMEONE IS TELLING THE TRUTH?!??!>*slurps SmileGook tiny dick*>UUUHH NOT ON MY WATCH BUDDY
im concerned
>>551750323own
uh oh doomfag melty
officially joining the doombrosthis is retarded and will kill the game
>>551750008>>551750056Ok thanks. So it still sounds worth it compared to the normal chaos. The special seasonal cards you can get are better right?
>>551749914Crazy how the guy went from a nightmare run killer to a walking jobber
>>551750532Alright thanks
Who is melting down this time? Doomjeets? Tressajeets?
>>551750390I think and act like this.
>>551750502>but I don't have a lot of faithyep, fuck off
>>551750592Is this doable with E0. I know shes strong but i see people saying E2 1 shots or something
What the fuck is this cutie on about, just say how much you love me instead of this convoluted shit...
>>551750741t. lorelet
>>551750603yeah but its all Tressas fault! shes the problem with the game! not the super busted broken as fuck new limited unit!
>>551750592>this is retarded and will kill the gameWrong. This is good for the health and longevity of the game and proves that the game is saved and that the devs listened. It's also a nice bonus that this comes on a Limited unit. You lost.
>>551750741bro thinsk he spittin but only thang he spit is owen's cum
>>551750741You don't understand. Her character is a manhwa trope of the Korean version of a tsundere. She will never get with you but always long to be with you secretly. She will end up with another guy only to still yearn after you.
>>551750594>The special seasonal cards you can get are better right?Hmm. Not really. You can do very well without them. But who knows what they might add next season.
>>551750741>he lacks the required information
>>551750037The roguelite tower lets you bring any d*ck, the seasonal contents don't let you use old save data which is fair in my opinion.
>>551750592This is exactly what Tressa is doing right now but not anywhere near as broken.What's your point? That she's a balanced version of Tressa?
Where do I get more counseling tickets? I got graped in Chaos. Also, asking once again, what to buy from Nono's shop, the research tickets?
>>551750741>"I am better than that Yuki bitch, don't you forget it">"You'll see how true that is, one day">"Perhaps when this is all over, you'll finally have the guts to make a move on me"
>>551751046it resets on daily rest which is in 7 hours and 23 mins from now
>>551750592god forbid banners characters can compete with F2P tressa and not be unplayable trash like Yuki.
>>551750904Oh i see. So what Chaos zone is best for farming most decks? Does it depends on character or something
>>551751046you only get 4 a day. (3 without the research track upgrade) you should buy and use research tickets, yes.
>>551751046>Where do I get more counseling tickets?They are replenished daily and they are the same things you use for excursions/dates. >I got graped in Chaos. It's completely random if a unit get sent to Epione, but apparently it can only happen once per unit, per day.
>>551751046Tourist-kun's are so cute!
>>551751121>>551751187>>551751193Thank you.
So whats the best Sereniel team? Selena and Mika? I was thinking of running her with Khalipe but idk
>>551751165Are you new? Then lab0. Otherwise it really depends what characters you want to build. Look into OP to see the deckbuilders.
>>551751228ehem, that's not a tourist but a newcutie
>>551751165if you check the op, there is a wiki website that lists what each chaos can give you. each chaos has events and gear exclusive to it
>>551751046Newcutie you can pay 30 crystals But you can also just stack up to 100 corrupted decks and do the chaos in deep r trauma mode, you should do that anyway for more save data value When you then do counseling all decks get cleaned
>>551751046>Also, asking once again, what to buy from Nono's shop, the research tickets?Yes, research tickets and the policies. The policies do not replenish themselves, so buy those last if you are new and don't have points saved up.
>>551751228>BRO WTF A PLAYER DOESNT KNOW ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME??!?! TOURRISTTT TOUUUURRIIISTTTTTTT
how the tower and all new content will get ruined in a few easy steps1. put weekly chores on it2. put a leaderboard on itthorgast in wow was a masterpiece in dogshit design and every gachoid is hell bent on copying its mistakes
>>551751316Depends on the contentShe can work with anyone
t. tourist
Why the fuck is the fast forward button for events slower than just me spam clicking?
>>551750741Even with all the Asuna screaming like she is Kirito from SAO, Yuki is still so far ahead it's not even funny
t. ranny
>>551751228>newfag trying too hard calling another newfag a touristlmao
>>551749734She literally does one thing with Sereniel and the devs know it, I know your shitposting for (You)s but shut the fuck up because it gets grating seeing shitposts in this general day in and day out
>>551751469>1. put weekly chores on itThis is exactly how I stopped having fun doing Chaos. Literally as soon as it turned into a weekly chore I stopped wanting to do it because now it feels like a chore.
>>551751331not really new just been playing casually and havent actually grinded for good decks because i overthink about whats optimal. I like following a guide
>>551751515Because you have to combine both spam clicking and the fastfoward button. (secret tech)
Uh oh tourist melties!
>>551751469>how the tower and all new content will get ruined in a few easy steps1. made by SGsimple as
Chizuru buff when..
>>551751663Posts that you personally dislike are not inherently shitposts, anon. I'm saying what I genuinely believe is going to happen. She's going to get rightfully nerfed and/or replaced with a 5* that makes her obsolete.
I want veronica to have a personality swap when corrupted and then rape me
>Chizu chuuWHO
>>551751797No, but your posts are blatant shitposting.
What do we call this new TCM team?
I hope they dont balance future great rifts around a specific team because that will kill creativity. Also theres not enough resources to do that every few months
>>551751928CSS
>>551751696for that you need to live in a villa, sweaty
>Cassius and his two wives
>>551751924No, anon. Posts that you personally dislike are not inherently shitposts. Or are you shitposting right now and this is how you're doing it?
>>551751987sweaty? as in she sweats a lot?
cascade style sheet?
>>551751928SCSSeh Cuh See
>>551751928It's a totally new team, so we should call it SCS
>>551752080Why does adding a "nya" make her hotter?
>>551752206you know they didn't test cassius well when this nigga can get 40 morale by himself while Rei the actual buffer needs to copy her morale card 3 times to get 12
>>551752087as in, when you lick her, she tastes sweat
>>551752251it's child coded and you're pedo
>>551752351DAS RITE
>>551750991i never mentioned Tressa, she is as regarded
>>551752051Your posts are shitposts. Simple as.
>>551752351Everyone's a pedo. Age doesn't actually exist. Most places in the world have an age of consent that is younger than 18, and "18" doesn't actually exist.
>>551752302Just a little buffoonery.
>>551752454Shut the fuck up, you stupid fucking shitposter. Don't trigger yourself by replying to my genuine opinions. It's that simple.
Is it better to get a partner rather than 5* dupes using memory archive currency? The current partner banner’s 4* rate ups are pretty bad.
>>551752631never use your memory archives until eos
haha le chaotic neutral joker character xddd
>>551752302I mean, they definitely didn't expect that someone is gonna win the duplicate loterry 3 times in a row to get 3 dupes of the same specific epiphany, that is gonna work with a lottery win of 3 other dupes of a card with a specific epiphany.I am yet to see a "choose quest" on my Cas after ~20 runs with him.
>>551752587You should get treatment for all that sand in your vagina, xis.
>>551752937I accept your concession.
>>551750592Somehow this is fine but the EXACT same thing with Tressa instead wasn'tI just don't understand slurpers, they literally only nerfed Tressa so she wouldn't outshine Sereniel in her own niche
>both side can only deal around 50% of boss hpDidn't someone said 500k are guaranteed even with half assed decks as long as I have Sereniel? Did you guys lied to me?
>>551751434It's ok tourist-kun, you can stay here
>>551753195>early suppression bonus: 0you need to kill the first boss as long as it says 6/10 topright
>>551753036Tressafags like you who don't understand how game breaking she is will never not amuse me.
>>551753195In games like these (e7,gi,wuwa) if anyone tells you "you don't need meta to place", it is 99% the case that their "half assed" is above your best. So never listen to faggots that say how easy it is cause they are decked out metatryhards.
>>551753483sereniel is almost as gamebreaking as tressa but youre okay with her cause shes a paid unit?Hypocritic slurp piggy
>>551751695looking at the leaderboards and see what decks they have is a pretty good guide. you can always look up which world shits out which equipment and roll with that.
>>551753786Cry more, Tressafag. Your tears are delicious!
>>551753432Well, I can't even kill the the boss on both side...
>>551753907oink oink
>>551753786I mean. Yes? She is a limited unit you'd have to pay for in one way or another. Everyone wanted to roll on strong characters and once the nips voiced their concerns it was owari dayo onee-chan®
>>551753786>youre okay with her cause shes a paid unit?
>>551754023>>551754031pathetic pay piggies with no life want to waste their hard earned money on gacha games
Do you think they should start making 5* units that are only as good as Yuki or Chizuru, but turn into units that are as good as Sereniel when you have them at e2 with their Partner? Personally, I'd like to see that. Can you think of how much money CZN would make?
>>551754116Okay but why do you not answering the question? Scared of implications? :)
>>551754116lmeow something tells me I earn more in a day than you do in a month
personally I think sereniel should sit on my face
>>551754116Tressafag STILL crying this hard is fucking hilarious.
>>551754439
>>551754538Shes not even nerfed yet. Which is especially delicious. Imagine the melty after the nerfs.
>no trauma code after HaruSo they gave up on the idea or what? I don't get what are they trying to do with that shit. I know seasons have their own story so TC is only for non seasonal units?
>>551754626its off-season content, Narja will have one
Which characters work well with Khalipes Celestial build? I might just do the High-Cost rally build because idk who to pair her with except Haru. Seems like her BIS partner
>>551754626It's still the first season bro
>>551754626Oh yeah, I thought we were supposed to get a Luke Trauma code and that's why Lucas was on the banner. I guess the story rewrite takes precedent. Maybe we'll start getting them once the rewrite happens. And can I just say - who the fuck even cares anymore? Not a single person is ever going to go through the rewritten story. No one is going to do that. Shit's cooked. I read all of Chapters 1-4 and the Trauma codes, and I just skip everything now because it was all fucking terrible. Damage is already done. Even if they added rewards to the rewritten story that I could go back and claim, I still wouldn't read through it, and I'd just complain that our fast forward is dogshit and that skip doesn't on things you're seeing for the first time. Just let me skip the story. They had their chance, and they blew it. If they don't even make a story anymore going forward, that would be an improvement because then I wouldn't need to hold down Ctrl for an hour.
IKE LIGHTONING DINGO
>>551754741Amir
Any wins you have using Sereniel don't count by the way. All illegitimate.
>>551754975This. That's why I am using Tressa
>>551754938Good to know. I eventually want to build Amir. Just focusing on more meta units atm
And done, my reign of terror was over
Kayrona is ready to shake off some dust
>>551755158grats
Whats better?Trigger NihilumEpiphany to 1 random cardTrigger Epiphany to 1 selected card
>>551755123I'm not that guy. Amir is just bad, but she does have iirc 2 [Celestial] epiphanies. You should probably just wait for whichever future unit ends up having [Celestial] stuff as well.
>>551755268normal epiphany since it doesnt cost faint memory
>>551755268depends on how many cards still need epiphany,I usually go for select
>>551755258FAT
are we getting another month of 10 pulls for the nerfs? we got a fucking month of gives because of some stupid "ntr" controversy. this is worse and nothing? or do the koreans not care about this at all?
>>551755270Yeah but shes hot so i still want to build her, If theres ever a moment where i have a good stock of spare resources
>unlock mission>it's the army of bugs>"HOLY SHIT AOE TIME YUKI TI-">realize Sereniel is better in AoE than herUchi no battou...
>>551755464Can't believe I pulled this brick in my 50/50, she'll stay lvl1 for a while
>first half of GR was supposed to shill Chizuru>no one is using Chizuruhaha...
>10 standard pulls in 4 daysI hope Mei Lin will come home with them.
>>551755464why couldn't yuki be fun to play like sereniel... all she needed was a stacking hit mechanic like mei,lin, cap it at 2-4 extra hits and she has the aoe niche locked down, but no, she hits twice at most for wet noodle dmg.
>>551755371>we got a fucking month of gives because of some stupid "ntr" controversy.Nah, it was a whole lot of things. Every shitpost rumor was confirmed true facts. That's how we know that 30% cheaper nigger cocks in Dawei removed the original story so he couple replace the story with his own fanfic. It wasn't just Owen, it was all of it. But he is a piece of shit who does love cucking people for no reason. Author's thinly veiled fetish type shit.
>>551755569Yeah even ignoring her low damage, she has the Inspiration thing but it doesn't feel as good as breaking bars
>>551755464actually yuki kills them MUCH faster because it takes forever to use 50 lasers with serenielso she's definitely 500% better for efficiency
welp, I played a ton, started on launch day but I'm done, shitty story + bare bones deadkbuilder with a gacha on top is only fun for so long.
>>551755464My Yuki is indispensable for AoE because her 3 blue slashes cost 1 and give 3 morale each.
>>551755536Devs are retarded and don't know how to shill their characters.First half should debuff you with permanent -2 morale whenever you gain AP outside of ravaging the enemy.
doomtard falseflagging on cooldown
>>551755632>is only fun for so long.I do wonder how anyone is going to be able to play this game long term. The workload is already massive and they're gong to be adding like 3 or 4 brand new entire modes that also reset. I can't see myself making it past Season 2.
>>551755268Select.If you're talking about the tunnel event, it doesn't say "Nihilum", but "epiphany" is orange. It's still a nihilum epiphany, except you get 1 more memory encroachment.
>>551755663>>551755626Mine has 1 cost add 2 Vulnerability onesTo be fair you're not wrong she's not that bad for AoE. However for Instinct specific enemies Sereniel is still better. Breaking each one of them 1 gazillion times for 1 gazillion lasers is too goodFor AoE Order packs Yuki is probably faster and better
Which one? Im doing the main ravage/ missle build
>>551755625like her ego is so shit, put cards back in deck... get small dmg boost? it'd be cool if it either drew them back in to self activate inspiration on those cards, or it got a extra hit on her ego per card returned to deck, that would feel nice to play around.
Can the devs think of a character kit that isn't just spam cards random bullshit go?
>>551755776escape
>>551755632thanks for fucking off
I like card games
>reach 1.1 mil>3%The days of easy 1% is over. It's all whales now.
>>551755771Sereniel is definitely better on paper but yuki kills them much faster because theres no laser spamI'd rather take 30 seconds instead of minutes
>>551755776No Instinct Weakness one so you can't use this build on non Instinct enemiesthe 2nd one is the best one
>>551755764Ill be honest anon idk whats the difference still. Are the Nihilum ones way better on average
I'M ON THE LAST BOSS IN LAB 0HOW THE FUCK DO I ONLY HAVE ONE EPIPHANY DESPITE MAXIMIZING COMBAT NODESFIX YOUR FUCKING GAME NIGGERS
>>551755776Left if you can generate enough lasers. Otherwise middle.
>>551755626lmao, not even. i got a sereniel build with Maneuvering Fire, i use one laser at the start to get the buff then break and spam, it's so fucking fast
>>551755851>It's all whales now.And that's a good thing
>>551755890>DESPITE MAXIMIZING COMBAT NODESLiterally no point doing this. You're actually gimping urself out of epiphany chance events.
>>551755879So the run is bricked? Noooo
>>551755890Why do you still have basic cards lmao?
>>551755890you have a trillion savedata already anywaycool deck for simulation dailies though i want one like that
>>551755851I have 1 million and that's still Platinum, shit is crazy this time around. Not that I mind, worthless mode, maybe if they'll make deck building easy as fuck, but as long as I get 0 rewards from it who cares.>>551756002You can still use it for the leaderboard boss and Instinct enemies, as I said.
>>551755945nah I'm good, I'd rather use 3 cards instead of 50 to kill them, its only for stamina stuffI use sereniel for the leaderboard and thats it, I don't want carpal tunnel
>>551755885God epiphanies are all the same and those give you more effects, but cost more data. Those are marked with orange text in event descriptions.Normal epiphanies (blue text) are the usual ones you get randomly in battles.Unless I misunderstood your question.
>>551755890>MAXIMIZING COMBAT NODES
>>551756041>1 mil and still platShow proof
Just noticed that Wilhelmina e5 gives a whooping 24% defense increase.Once we hace an actually good Defense character she will be insane.
>>551756136
>>551756190That is not 1 million
brother i just passed you, gold soon...
>>551755965>>551756078WTF IS A NIGGA SUPPOSED TO DO I NEED EPIPHANIES ON MANEUVERING FIRE
Now that the new leaderboards have confirmed that it's Cassius shitting up the meta, can the devs leave Mika alone now
>>551755836Your welcome, I still dont know why devs think adding gacha ontop of real games make's them any better
>>551756246bro there is a billion events with "a selected combatant gains epiphaNIGGER"i never have your problem desu
>>551756241It is in my heart.
>>551756246don't do lab zero. Go to literally any other chaos world and aim for event nodes.
>>551756190Man, Rei is clearly overperforming because she is a 4 star and on the leaderboards, so she clearly needs to get nerfed. Same with Selena. All are on Tressas level.
>>551756190
Will I make it?
>>551756243The run I did was misplay after misplay since it was my first time handling Cassius + Sereniel, which is quite a challenge since they fill your hand with SO MUCH SHIT. Next time I'll get over 1 milly easy, specially after upgrading them. I'll try again tomorrow after reset
>>551756281You sound like a retard, so you may never know.
>>551756342I have to do lab zero because I need at minimum tier 13 for the deck I want to build, and the mythic orb weapon is bis for maneuvering fire.
>>551756137??
>>551756510No..no..
Hm am I gonna get bricked if I come back at the start of Season 2 and skip Sereniel
>>551756775She might make Basin/Tower pissy easy for a long while, besides that not really, Season 2 will shill the new units.
>>551756697My cute brick.....
>>551755270>Amir is LE BADStop choking on youtuber cocks and learn to be good at the gameShe can apply vulnerable quite easily and deal nukes as long as you have 2+ metallization. You can get Celestial epiphanies for Khalipe, or get the free +1 metallization per turn epiphany. You can dupe it if you're so bad at managing her metallization stacksStop proccing metallization to deal chip damage like those low iq youtubers fag
>the buff that reduces HP of enemies to 1 for the first 3 normal battles applies also to the hentai octopuskek
>>551757164This is an Illithid, though.
>>551756951meanwhile sereniel and mei lin be like just play your cards at random lule
We need an Amir rate-up, also, why the fuck did Nia get two consecutive rate-up, just put other units in if you don't want to give Cassius a rate-up before nerf SG
>>551756915Magna is awesome, seeing her unleash aoe counterattack is so satisfying
>>551756951Even Prydwen says Amir sucks but OK.Surely you'll show us your Master badge with your Amir team soon, right?
So do you keep Sereniels basic attacks or not? Obviously you remove the shield.
>Magna is awesome
>>551757582>>551756951Class is still waiting for you to show us your Master badge and top 100 rank with Amir, bwo.
>>551757582>prydwen
>>551757920NTA but show us your master badge with your Amir team
>>551757582>prydw*n
As a lv60 Magna haver, she needs a rework.Counterattack as a mechanic sucks ass. Vulnerable doesn't go with 0 cost spamming, which is the entire game right now. Shielding is inherently worse than healing, and she doesn't even shield that much without excessive AP investment.
>>551757920>>551758212pryden is cool
>>551758234Just make counters scale dmg with atk and def stat (100%+100%, if not more) and shields 50% more power if turn started with no shield.
>>551758234yes
Here's my Seren gear I posted the other day.Going to slowly replace it with the 4p ravage set but it's probably going to be a while before I can swap because these rolls are pretty insane
>>551758732>all those crit rollsShant.
Yuki...forgive me...
>>551749303SHE'S THE STRONGEST!! >>551751086KEK. Best interpretation
>>551758812
>>551757630Depends on the data limit. You can keep one basic attack, it isn't that bad.
Wonder how they will power creep Sereniel eventually, she is fucking broken. You just one tap every fucking enemy in Chaos outside a few cases or just bad RNG. None of my characters even could get a breakdown because everything died so fast.
>>551759027Powercreep her will happen maybe next yearMake her not relevant? Easy, just make enemies that counter her
>>551759027they need to nerf Sereniel
>>551758234Not Magna, Vanguards. Maribell, Khalipe and Amir are also all on the weaker end. I think we should wait and see how they perform in the newest modes just to be sure.
Why is there still no auto play in Chaos mode
>>551759490Play the game bro
if only I got another copy event...
>>551759376Nerfing a limited seasonal unit sounds like a good way to piss off the playerbase
Why are they mad at her being OP
>>551759787You posted the wrong image, he's the correct one>>551752206
which do I copy. Her ult is really strong but I am not familiar all with her so I am not sure if the right one scales crazy well with her.
>>551759959copy za lazor
>>551759959laser is a decent god epi brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sli9DgPnwwatch his guides
>>551760029>>551760052Shit it's going to go over the limit. Is it good enough to justify getting a basic card added back? Hopefully it will be an attack card but you never know it might be the shield.
>>551759603the homing lasers are the only good thing about this deck the rest of your cards sucks
>>551760216In that case no get the ultimateyeah that's the issue with god epis on lasers. you can get insane shit like 1 AP but good luck copying them 1 million times
>>551749690>farm chaos until you get an acceptable deck>farm the new tower (and hope the tower is enough to carry the game on its back) to get save edit tokens>use save edit tokens make your giga deck>grind leaderboardI suppose thats what theyre aiming for?
>>551760363>farm the new tower (and hope the tower is enough to carry the game on its back) to get save edit tokensthe save edit tokens are from the special chaos which is getting added in S3
chatgpt write an essay why i want to quit CZN
>>551749690The future "gameplay options" will be either running more chaos (with more modifiers) or doing more bosses with oyur farmed deck (with more modifiers).You aren't escaping the gameplay.
>>551759959Pale Shooting Star burns through lasers like crazy. Copying the laser is much safer.
>>551759720Bwo is this your first Smilegate game?
>>551759027>everything died so fastlore accurate Sereniel carpet bombs everything to death with her orbital lasers
>>551760587is she made from American DNA?
>>551755569Make one of her attack searcher card epiphany move instead of draw and yuki would be great.
>>551760671She's also fat, so yes.
>>551760671It’s called Strike Freedom for a reason.
>>551756368team 1 is just participation trophy, efficiency doesnt matter
anyone feels wasteful everytime they uses the ego crystal
>>551760671>PAWG from AmericaBuild for
>>551761319Saving them until EOS.
>>551760671Sereniel is a jew.
>>551761359Not with that nose she’s not.
Chaos Zero Nightmare may promise excitement, challenge, and a sense of achievement, but over time it has become clear that continuing to invest time and energy into it no longer brings meaningful value to my life. What once felt engaging has gradually turned into a source of frustration, fatigue, and diminishing returns. Quitting Chaos Zero Nightmare is not a sign of weakness or failure; rather, it is a rational decision based on how the game affects my time, mindset, and priorities.
>>551761469Chatgpt-kun...
>>551761465>The “-iel” ending is common in fantasy naming (inspired by angelic or Elvish-style names).>It loosely resembles names derived from Hebrew (where “-iel” means “of God”), but Sereniel itself is not an attested Hebrew name.>It also resembles names in fantasy literature or games, especially Elven-style names from works inspired by Tolkien.>In Welsh, seren means “star,” but “Sereniel” is not a Welsh name either—just a superficial resemblance.She's an elven Welsh-Jew.
>>551760475>I'm going to have to do another entire season before save data edit>devs will add a new chaos>its events will be a complete downgrade of the 5 original chaos just like lab 0 with maybe one above average rare equipment>they might even decide we don't get to use zero system at the start just like this seasonNO NO NO
>>551761656Nevermind I fucking lied, I just checked again, it's in Season 2 in February.
The decision to quit Chaos Zero Nightmare is not merely about stopping a game; it is about reclaiming time, mental energy, and a sense of agency that the game's mechanics have slowly eroded. While the title initially offers the thrill of progression and the excitement of pulling rare characters, the long-term experience of playing a high-intensity gacha game eventually reveals itself as a digital treadmill designed to reward obsession rather than genuine skill or enjoyment.The primary reason to step away is the oppressive nature of the grind. In Chaos Zero Nightmare, the "gameplay" often shifts from engaging strategy to a repetitive chore. Logging in becomes a matter of obligation rather than desire. To keep up with the meta or to simply complete daily objectives, a player must commit hours to mindless farming—repeatedly clearing the same stages for a fraction of a percent of progress. When a hobby starts feeling like a second job that you pay to work at, the fundamental purpose of gaming as a form of relaxation is lost.Furthermore, the psychological toll of the gacha system is a significant motivator for quitting. The game is built on a foundation of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) and predatory monetization. Every new banner or limited-time event is a calculated attempt to trigger an impulse to spend or to grind beyond healthy limits. The "Nightmare" in the title becomes literal as the player begins to feel anxious about missing a day of logins or falling behind the power creep. This constant low-level stress drains mental resources that could be better spent on real-world goals, relationships, or more fulfilling creative pursuits.
>N-no upgrade card copying allowed in the 2nd half!!!>N-no healing alowed on the 2nd half!!!>You NEED to break the boss twice per turn or your deck is gimped ok!???! So you NEED to level up Selena too!!!>The progression system is still 2 times slower than even hoyoslopHow is this game still alive is beyond me.
>>551761849ContinueFinally, quitting is an acknowledgment of the "Sunk Cost Fallacy." Many players stay because they have already invested hundreds of hours or a significant amount of money into their accounts. However, continuing to play just because of past investment only leads to more waste. Walking away is an act of reclaiming one's future. By deleting the app, the player breaks the cycle of Pavlovian rewards and regains the freedom to choose how they spend their most valuable resource: time.In conclusion, Chaos Zero Nightmare thrives on creating a loop of artificial scarcity and repetitive labor. Quitting is a declaration that my time is worth more than a digital sprite or a slight increase in a stat number. It is an opportunity to trade a shallow, programmed addiction for a more balanced and meaningful life.It costed me $0.002504 to gen that btw
>>551761879>the boss is tailored around the new unit released with itwow really bud
Are we not getting any new story chap next month? How will they shill Narja and Nine then? Not sure if I'm getting this right, but since season 2 is in February, doesn't this mean Narja and Nine are out of season, and the flat girl is the first girl of season 2?
>>551761901>>551761849>>551761469guys i was making a joke...>>551760484about this guy>>551749690
>>551761879You know, I immediately went for the limited character but now I'm genuinely kinda wondering how the 2nd half is even doable without Sereniel. It feels like it wants too many breaks for anyone but her to supply, especially since the other yellow characters aren't very good at breaking at all.
>>551761967Nine story: since you now have to fuck sereniel every two hours you decide to hit the gym more often.You meet Nine and have sex, she joins the crew.Flat girl story: You are visiting Yukis ship and get turbo drunk. You have to use the restroom. By accident you walk into the women's stall and, the door of her stall isn't locked and you see her pee, she grabs you with a leash and you have sex, she joins the crew.
To be honest, I spent a good amount of time trying to find even a single shred of an opinion on this, but I’ve come up completely empty-handed. It’s like my brain hit a "skip" button before I could even process the details, and now I’m just sitting here in this weirdly peaceful zone where the outcome literally doesn't affect my life in any direction. I could probably try to come up with a "take" just for the sake of the conversation, but that feels like a lot of intellectual heavy lifting for something that ultimately has the same impact on me as a weather report for a city I’ve never visited. So, in the interest of full transparency and saving us both some energy, I’m just going to lean into the void on this one and say it’s a total non-event for me—I don't care lol.
>>551761879>>551762039>WTF HOW CAN THIS BOSS RELEASED WITH A NEW CHARACTER BE TAILOR MADE FOR HER?!?!??! WTFFFF BROOOSSS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE TCM MULTIPLE TIMES THATS A TRUE SHOW OF SKILL AND EXPERTISE AT THE GAME!!! FUCKING SMILEGOOK FUCKING US TRUE PLAYERS OVER AGAIN IN FAVOR OF WHAAAALEEEESSS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>551762156If only modern writers could write something this kino
>>551761967Yes we will get a new story chapter.It will be a SoL chapter about Narja and Gaya integrating into the SS Nightmare group.
>>551762156Well at least it would be entertaining
>>551762039It isn't, they made sure of it. Anyone that still thinks this game will be something else other than "roll for every new character or you can't even do the content" after the shitshow that was season 1 is retarded. Especially when they already opened the gates to nerfing.
>>551762039First day second half was actually full of Mei Lins at above 500k before people got Sereniel decks.
>>551762275>"roll for every new character or you can't even do the content"Absolutely mindbroken
Why do you retards ironically pretend that releasing new bosses that are tailor made for new characters is a good thing?
>>551762381>>551762432Are you>a poorfag>a Tressafag>a shitter>a luckletOR>ALL OF THE ABOVELMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO CRY HARDER HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>551762303I guess the ability to add passion weakness makes her viable too. I think they might be the only two characters who can do it in any kind of reliable fashion. I guess a classic TCM setup could... PROBABLY do it, since Cassius's 0 cards are yellow type?
>>551762558Tressa + Cassius without weakness would probably be less damage than Cassius + Sereniel but not by much. Cassius deals all the damage once again.
I have a confessionI do not care about the leaderboard, I do 100k on my first try with whatever characters I like, and stop there
>>551762710I just think TCM would have a tremendous uphill battle in 2nd half, it's tailor made to exclude it as an option to a hilarious degree.
>>551762776You don't care about 20 crystals, 100 event tokens and a shitty red icon no one will ever see?
>>551762558I don't think they can do it by themselves because Cassius only has one dice trick, so he can't generate enough cards for a break like you could in first half. I think other teams can still put up enough of a fight to reach 500k and Khalipe can break the bar fast enough, but that'd require planning your moves and keeping the boss tenacity bar lower but not breaking it until he charges up his finisher. Also TCM would lose to the anti heal mechanic the boss has since the way to counter that requires a tenacity bar reset which only Selena has.
>>551762558>>551762792>D-D-D-DOESNT COUNT!!!!!!>MUH TCM!!!!!
>>551762776At least do 500k for the full rewards bro c'mon that shit ain't THAT hard.
There's so much rng in this fight its crazy.
>>551762792Well the new boss restores the ravage bar to let sereniel break it again. the other thing it does is reshuffle your hand and give you back 3+ AP. I feel like tressa might get bricked if she ended up drawing all her daggers rather than heals or draw cards, but she would be REAAAALLY slow at breaking the boss, maybe not even being able to do it at all, so the boss would effectively give her more firepower
>>551762884F2P btw
>>551762810>shitty red icon no one will ever see?You're not allowed in the guild.
>>551762884Whale status?Sereniel savedata status?Selena savedata status?Congrats?
>Finally hit Divine Repose + 4 dupes>[Remove] Sample didnt show up so stuck with 2 basicsIs this good enough to cope?
>>551763063>nigger draws the entire deck with infinite APs>"IS THIS COPE???"Bro?!What's the Sir Kowalski? Maybe that's a bit of damage loss but really who the fuck cares lmao
>>551763063Why bother?She isn't good in the 2nd team on leaderboard boss and the deck won't be usable next season.
>>551763063no, delete
What do they give actually?
>>551763156Kowalski was draw 2 as well, but I just realized I didnt even get the epiphany for Ballista fuck... This is despite Nightmare mode + 2 extra fights at the end>>551763158I like to actually play the game outside of dick measuring contest
anyone have the tressa lynx image
>>551762939Monthly pass and one BP for nyx means I'm F2P-lite! Well don't mind the google play points for those 2 1200 yen christmas packs I got for christmas for shits and giggles.>>551763060Nyerm, e6 sereniel 295 rolls.You can probably check on the rankingsAnyway good luck and have fun with your runs lads. And triple 1 is god's punishment for this cruel world.
>>551763060you can look at his shit
>>551763364who is this bitch
>>551763356It literally doesn't matter, drawing entire decks + AP generation is godlike. You also have the good Pendant anyway to spawn 1 million ballistas and the support weapon
>>551763356lucky piece of shit
>>551763448Jetavie from arknights
>>551763561>we have AKfags among the rankingsIs it over?
>>551763364>Monthly pass and one BP for nyx means I'm F2P-lite! Well don't mind the google play points for those 2 1200 yen christmas packs I got for christmas for shits and giggles.>WuWa picOf COURSE a faggot of this proportion has to be a WuWajeet
>>551763627You don't know the worst of it.
>>551763714N-no...have mercy rabigod
Is it just me or does lab0 have hella lots of shop nodes now
>>551763696>Hoyotranny meltyNice.
>>551763785sometimes you can visit 6-7+ per runalso the third floor has 1 now
Does anyone know if removing the Mutant Sample through Dellang's shop increases your memory? I want to remove it from the copy pool
>>551764458It does
>>551764458I don't think I've ever seen it get copied in all my runs so far.
>>551764458I've never seen it get copied
>>551764458It will never get copied
>>551753195It is, just get the unique upgrade epiphany on her and Cassius on the second team and you'll start getting retarded amounts of morale stacks and damage.
Why is Yuki so sexy
>>551764153sex
>>551764845
>>551755268If the "Epiphany" text is orange instead of blue, it's a divine epiphany. Take it 100% of the time.
>>551764458bro? the mutant sample is used to remove a card without losing to many points it'S the best remove eventmutant sample never gets saved in the finished deck
>my cassius keeps giving me heal (suicide) card
>mei lin (16)
>>551764883tits too smallhips not wide enoughthighs way too thinhead is too bigclothes are way too oversized
>>551765068Saved.
>>551764153Cumelya's tits aren't that big.
I will get Yuki pregnant
should I dupe shining core instead if my homing laser is shit
>>551765345If you can dupe it before it upgrades yea. Ideally you want the upgrade version for free missile during ravage
>>551765304PLAP PLAP PLAPGETPREGNANTGETPREGNANTGETOREGANTARE YOU WATCHING, RENOA?
>>551765506
>>551765345How did you end up having to pick from three shit homing laser options when there are so many good ones?
>>551765614I once got to choose between 1 cost laser and two generic epi
>>551765212Close enough.
>>551765870
Is there a priority list for cleaning out the event shops? I cleared out most of the top row besides the golden ahoges or whatever they are for potentials, but how should I be prioritizing them at this point?
Anyone figure out how to proc the wings of freedom event more often? I still sometimes get meal time but the wings I’ve only ever seen once.
>>551765860Lucklet bro...
>>551764458I've had it offered for copy once
>>551766093Homing laser or shining core is a priority for copy usually?
>>551766356go get your grandma's lucky charm and put it next to you
>>551764530Thanks>>551764659>>551764713>>551764736Not my pic, but it can show up in 1 of the 3 copy options after a boss
I keep getting generic epis in my upgrades fuck this gameReroll can't come soon enough
>>551766503Laser
>>551766597If it's not yours. Idk if you're being trolled because you can choose to copy it during the select event but I've literally never seen it get copied during the boss event.
>>551765506Based
>>551765506You deserve Owen
is it worth putting eternal hunger on Sereniel?
new bug who dis
>>551767574Eternal hunger is a brick unless you can discard it off your hand optimally every turn
If I went with the Double Hitter but no afterglow homing laser, would it be better to grab the usual Unique Shining Core or the one that allows to pick a laser to have the one that generates 3 afterglow too?
kek the speed up stayed during the fight
>>551768046the animations didn't get sped up but things like drawing cards did.
>>551767653try to close-reopen the game
>>551767574Putting eternal hunger in your DPS's deck basically means that deck is exclusively for running alongside Nia. If that's okay with you then it's not a bad choice.
Is nerve hacking module permanent, is that why everyone is using it over emblem on sereniel?
>>551767574My Yuki has one as if I'm ever playing her it's with Nia.
Is Pale Shooting Star worth a copy for e2 Sere?
>had 2 turns left with a big hand>this fucker nukes me from half health out of nowhere after he ressed I could have easily gotten 1.2m, what the fuck even happened I was fighting him for over half an hour
fr this really how sum yall niggas is acting
>>551768650Did you use Triple 1? He has a debuff that fucks you up if you heal.
>>551763063Good enough, do this next
>>551767686If you have the leftover data you can treat it as a one time use free ap, it's still good. Plus the boss discards for you.
>>551768759You forgot to add the dogwater choice having x3 dmg and the mid choice 1 morale for 1 turn
>>551768425No idea maybe it is? Combat log doesn’t record damage so it’s hard to tell no?
>>551768913He took it from reddit.
for 1 turn, gain 2 resolve
>>551768759Hell yeah, pick3slop
Magna buff now
Ecstasy of Violence is a skip on Sereniel right?
for 1 turn, cum
>>551769349I have a deck with it and it's pointless, might as well get that 3cost's epi that lowers to 1 cost and hits per Laser in hand
explain this
>>551770181Scratch that, explain this
>>551770353true dat
>>551770181>>551770353???
>>551770181True.
>>551770181>>551770353it's probably succeed a dice roll that requires a certain statlike the seeker of truth might be analysis roll event, Gotcha! might be dexterous, which is on vernoica. etc etc,
Why is Sereniel so sweaty in her home page?
>>551770896she is big and meaty. steamed buns
>>551770353>she can't pass a 50 skill checkngmi
ok so every boss from now on will need to have1. anti mei lin (more hits = reduced damage until you only hit for 1)2. anti tressa tech (no dupes of upgrades)3. anti cassius tech (???)4. anti sereniel tech (forced reset or phase transition after using x amount of cards or doing x% of the boss' max hp)all because they don't know how to balance shit or refuse to nerf 5* or just dont know that it's not necessary to make everything a competitive ladder?
>>551771357Cassius gets killed with the no dupe upgrades as well.
Holy shit I like this one, Pale shooting generates you AP, the create lasers allow you to be flexible and either grab the afterglow or something else, and the laser with double tenacity damage fucks bosses bars
>>551771357This is the exact reason they're nerfing Tressa and Cassius next, so they don't have to invent more "creative" modifiers for them
>>551771560Not according to the leaderboard.
>>551771702Anon what's with your save background
>>551771710That's cause Seren is currently allowed to keep looping. Once the boss no longer supports that he will also fall apart.
>>551771793Sereniel is being fed a snack of course
>>551771702It's a shame you can't have the 2 Shining Cores in the event boss. My first save had those copied too and it was really fun
>>551771702how do you roll a good T14 run
So I'm a new player, is there a way to see how many points my deck currently costs, or do I have to calculate it manually? If I need to calculate, is there a guide on how to do it?
New combatant whenI'm bored of Sereniel already, same shit as Tressa and her turns take forever for no reason too
>>551772197u can see it here, calculator in the OP
>>551772363Thank you
>>551772197you have to calculate it manually however it's not that hardequipment is freeepiphanies (non divine) are freefirst removal of a basic card costs 10 points onlycopy of a first card is 10 points unless it has a divine epiphanyusually 100 points is plenty to get a basic, non fancy deckyou will need more if you want to minmax divine epiphanies or god help you, add neutral cards
>>551772106You get lucky and roll it, then never let go. I make sure to always grab the extra boss when able and never kill the Wolf if I don't do that I can quit after the copy event and keep the map.
>>551772587>never kill the Wolfwhat do you mean by this?
>>551764153Rent free
>>551772734If you kill the last boss of the run you lose the map, however if you quit before that point you keep the save and the map. If you don't activate the extra boss you quit before the Wolf boss so that you don't lose the T14, but then you don't get the final copy chance.That's why you always try to activate the extra boss.
>>551772843bro at least attach a hot bitch to your off topic post
>>551772885ah you mean you only kill the wolf if you get this thingbut you would kill the wolf if you have 3 GG lasers and no extra boss i guess?anyway thank you, i'll try to follow your advice
>>551772902Later
>people post 140 deckruns>i can barely clear 90s as i either get nuked or do joke dmgYeah, i think i'll be dropping this grindfest of a game. Fucking gear rng wasn't enough, i can't even adequately farm shit to improve chars, cause deck building is fucking tied to doing high end dives, that i can't do cause my shit is severely underperforming, which i can't improve cause the shit i can grind in reasonable time is fucking disfunctional.
>>551773047In case you have a god build on your hands but no extra boss you'd have to decide whether the T14 or the chance for the perfect build is more important yeah
>>551772843Pretty sure the rent free here is wuwa in (you)r mind. All day, every day.
>>551773157improving your CZNs has nothing to do with chaos retard
>>551773157>muh grindI bet you don't even have leveled the cheap 7/10 unique card potential upgrade on characters you use.140 runs are easy if you pick the right modifiers like -2% HP per turn or no rest allowed.
>>551773434uh huh
Fuck, these battle missions take forever to auto through but they are an easy way to get gold exp materials
>>551773157>RNG memory fragments>RNG character equipment in chaos runs>RNG deck building in chaos runs>RNG chaos run modifiersYou know how not everyone likes playing korean games and how they have a reputation for needing insane levels of grinding? Well, this is a korean game and people who like this game enjoy the mindless grinding. This is a game where you either like grinding or not.
>>551773439>get killed in simulation>need better decks>to get better decks you need better mats>can't get better mats cause see the 1st point aboveYeah, nothing at all.>>551773580Of course i don't, since i get fucking 1-2 piece of the shit i need over hundred of.>cheap>you need a whole day of grinding to get enough for ~2 upgrades max
This is better than sex
>>551774301>get killed in simulation???
>>551774301>get killed in simulationreally? which one? you should be able to beat simus with 50 point decks...
>>551774304>that Target SpottedHUH OHSTINKYgood job anon
>>551774304hmm...nyo, wrong scope
>>551773157>90sWhat? Are you confused with difficulty levels and tiersThere's no way to get 90s at D8
>>551774156>plays roguelite game>complains about roguelite mechanics
Sereniel breast sweat
>>551774656>rng mechanic exists outside of the roguelike gameplayWhat's the point?
>>551774624difficulty 8 is level 90 enemies
>>551774656Nta but you subhumans have been btfo'd so many times by now I can't even bother to keep count.Chaos in a vacuum is fun. Having to deal with 100 different layers of RNG outside of chaos is not.
>>551774656Can you name some other roguelike games that make you farm for specific gear, materials and builds to use outside the roguelike gameplay?You seem to be knowledgeable in the genre
>>551774624Lvl60 dives with nightmare on show me a possible load of 90. Maybe i'm mistaking something, or going to the wrong place.>>551774156>>551774656The game already has boatloads to grind even without equipment rng. Especially since they plan to destroy our decks each season, as well as the gimmick they will apply to other high end content that will incentivize altering your deck anyway.
>>551774656Yeah and people play gacha games while complaining about gacha mechanics too. Remember people crying about the pity system here?
Is the game bugged or did they make the game worse yet again?? Why the fuck am I getting generic shit like this in my epohanies???
>>551749807She has the spirit of pizza
>>551775379u raik?
>>551775379This shit ruined a really good Sereniel deck I had, fucking bullshit
>>551775379I genuinely don't get it either, it's like she can get neutral card episCobalt Light can also have 1 AP on it with no changes lolI think its a bug
>>551775379General epiphanies has been a thing since the start. That's why people said 3/5 is a lie.
Perfectionists seem to have trouble with this game because they can't accept that their build will never be perfect. Even the leaderboard save data isn't perfect.If you spend your resources wisely though, you will be successful. If you aren't successful in this game, it isn't because of rng. It's because you're bad.
>>551775689I've never seen those on any other character
IT'S DONE
>>551775689I've been playing since launch, granted in a very on and off way, and this is literally the first time I'm seeing this.
>>551775780here's mine
>>551775379It's literally always been this way. Morale, Fortitude, Resolve, agony, AP, draw 1, 20% shield, among others. They're called generic epiphanies and exist for all cards.Sometimes they're actually beneficial. Most notable example is Hugo, these greatly increase his chances of retaining Initiation which is otherwise only a 1/5 chance upon epiphany. It's also good for plasma missle because it procs twice, so you can get double morale or double agony.
>>551775697>perfectionist seem to-ain't reading the rest
>Go into the leaderboard mode with a shit Sereniel team>Make more points on hard than i did last season with TCM on max difficultyTressa is a problem where? This angel bitch is twice as strong as Tressa in Chaos and 1.5x stronger in other modes.
when is cassius getting culled?
>>551775924see >>551775867
>>551775957>boss literally says "if you play sereniel deal 50x damage">Instinct so weak to cassiusyeah that must be it lil bro
>>551775957Scores are higher in general on the new boss
>>551775940>reads it all>gets mad>posts this
>>551776102nah
>>551774730>>551774847>>551774869>>551774989>>551774156>the RNG crybabies are back>let me pick my finished deck>i want to play with presets!!!retards
JK SEX!
>>551776350>posts retarded statement>gets shat on>surprised pikachu face.jpeg
>>551775762>>551775867>>551776038I don't know what to tell you dawg. This is the oldest save data I have with one of the generic epiphanies. They're possible on every card for every combatant.
Where the fuck is the art? Do they just refuse to draw this game even when the devs incentivize them?
>>551775924Damn you're actually right.Until now I was convinced the Resolve or gain Shield at the end of the turn Epis on Veronica's ballistas were actual epis and not generic ones. There's more RNG than I thought. Hopefully they can tune it down with the changes + save data tickets
>>551775762Are you new?
>>551775762bro are you a newcutie???
>>551776471We have AI.
>>551776350>acting like fragments add anything to the quality of the gamelol
>>551776471https://www.pixiv.net/contest/chaoszeronightmare7 submissions
>>551776441
>>551776471That's some free as fuck money, too bad I don't know how to draw
>>551776569stop looking for newcuties to groom
>>551776350Did you just make up a strawman for yourself?I literally only mentioned the problem of gear rng, the rest of the game being direct result of the rouge-lite experience is absolutely fine with me.And you will not be fucking keeping your decks forever since the devs themselves said seasons will force deck changes. And i am certain most high end content will load and swap gimmicks, so unless it's something beyond gamebraking, you will still need to adjust your decks every now and then, moreso when new chars come out.The game already has retention built into it due to the main mode. Idk why an extra hyperfrustrating layer absolutely needed to be added on top.
Bros? Is that true?
>>551777008Turns out kanchou is a grower.
>>551776471There's only 7, one is AI, one is MSPaint, and one is the promo for the contest. It's GRIM
>can now start every turn with 6apSereniel is way too ridiculous. A shame about the other epiphanies, but it's a nice deck considering I wasn't even trying to build her and it was a tier 11 Chaos.
>>551777578LMAO this shit is funny as hell.
>company makes game with ai>surprising that no artists want to touch itig it would be surprising to a collection of neets
Pain peko...
should i spend the 400 to get a sereniel memory code from the shop to take her from E1->E2 or save them? I also still have the omega code
>>551778159use either but get her to E2, yes
>>551778159the shop dupes are limited so it's the best thing to buy theree2 makes her far stronger in chaos
Chaos Zero Fanart...
>>551777008Massive ship but small pistol.
Chaos Zero Lolis that scold you and make fun of you but then when you lose a Chaos run or get demoted to Platinum they're kind with you and have pity sex with you
>>551779005Its not the size that matters, its how you use it.
>>551779005My cannon is massive, fuck you Renoa.
>>551779092>t. Beryl>>551779109The one that said your pistol is tiny is Kiara
It wasnt Renoa who made the small pistol comment...
>>551779253Yeah, but she was thinking about it!
>>551779253she could have told them how big i am and how much she likes it
>>551779253She didn't say anything. Silence = agreement.What she DID do however was think about how much better Owen is.
>>551779610Did Renoa take Captain's firstie? Imagine if she's into 4 hours old virgins and fucks Protos right when they're born
>>551779243The gooks allowed this?
>>551779885That little comment gave us 60 rolls.
>>551779253>Kiara: your pistol is so tiny. You are useless>Beryl: don’t worry Captain! It isn’t about size but about how you use it!>Renoa: it’s only due to you we made it so far, don’t worry>>>somehow Renoa is blamed by KiaraThis is like how Porygon pays for Pikachu causing a ton of children to suffer epilepsy
>>551780034Damn, sucks that I was busy at the time and missed all the early freebies
>>551779243So when are they removing this dialogue from the game
>>551777578Lmao, what a joke
Why do the monster card cost so fucking much??? Some of them isnt even that good.
>>551780195Busy making money, right? You can easily buy more rolls right now.
can i get difficulty 14 savedata in lab0? just spent like 800 mats rolling and got 13 max
>>551777578the tressa clown face is the cherry on top
>>551780558The devs don't play the game, so they didn't noticed how retarded that was.
>>551780514Considering Sereniel’s MASSIVE CANNON line, they will replace it with something like “stay back, Captain. Your cannon needs to be prepared and has a large refracto- cooldown period”.
>>551780692More like:"Careful, Captain. Better let Owen handle that big cannon."
>>551780639yeah? you do 13 and then enable deep trauma to make it 14 retard
>>551780869yeah retard but can i start with 14 and deep trauma it to 15
Does anyone know if Cobalt Light with the ravage = 1 more activate would work on a target already tenacity broken? Or must it always be the card that breaks the target tenacity? What about the decrease cost by 1 one?
>>551780932no retard because 14 is the maximum retardreeeetard~
>>551781125ok haha
>>551780835Why would Owen handle my dick
>>551781053it must be the card that causes ravage if it says ravagedestroy is ravage or already ravaged
Sometimes, I wonder if I'm the only one playing the game in this thread
retard
I love this fatty
>"Fuck it I'll use cassius">insta 1 milI fucking hate this character... My sereniel isn't even fully built yet, I don't even have above 30% crit on her...
>>551781125the fuck are you on? you absolutely can get natty T14Stop replying if you don't know what you're talking aboutYou can get this in any difficulty starting at VIII
>>551781591Was so mad I forgot picrel
>>551781731>>551781125what the hell that retard lied to me
>>551781809HIS game
>>551781469Nobody here enjoys the gameplay. It's pretty evident now that all the people arguing in favor of nerfs are celebrating how strong Sereniel is.No one ares about building fun deck, they just want to roll and brag what they got out of it like all other gachatards.Roll for strong limited, look up a guide on youtube, that's how much people here will engage with the game.
>>551781841just be ready to spend an exorbitant amount of white fragments to find it, its why I recommend that you don't do it on difficulty 8 so you can leave it there forever when you need to farm 0-card decksI live my natty T14 on difficulty 10
>>551781841well not exactlyhighest tier is still 14but you gain an extra "tier" by enabling deep trauma on a tier 14 chaos that gives you 10 extra points even though it doesn't say tier 15
>>551781985Nerfs are good if they hit ugly characters. Now we need to nerf Mika next.
>>551782116>laboratory upgradesHuh????
>>551781985>claims to enjoy gameplay>wants to play TCM until EoSThey should make TCM a standalone game so you guys can just play it forever and the rest of us can move on to other things.
>>551781591Cassius hates melook at this shitI got 1M with Sereniel, Nia and Selena though
>>551782335the zero system upgrades
>>551782348thats kinda impressive, but don't feel too bad since he's getting nerfed
>>551782348I feel like I could get 1mil with nia too if I got a better deck on her, but it's laughably easy how you can get 1 mil with cass...
>>551782086okay, thanks>>551782116ty
>>551782116Wait according to this 8th planet tier 13 is enough to net 170 points no? But even when I turn on deep trauma I can only get 160, I don’t get where this lab upgrade is, is it zero system? I maxed that besides rhe rare species.
I can't wait for the cassius and tressa nerfs to hit so I can reset them both and pretend I never upgraded either.
>>551782335>>551782805I lied againtier 14 deep trauma does NOT add an extra 10 points
>>551782897WHAT DOES THAT MEAN NOW?
>>551782889They should let you reset anyone (with some sort of material or gems)
Anon-kun is getting baited hard....
used 2000 white shit and didn't get a runable 14
Can i use her now?
Hmmm nyesssssss
>>551783653you are like a baby, I had to spend 10K to find one
>>551783762wtf thats so easy
>>551777578Jesus lord, how is this game even famous in JP like this?
>>551783762>on D8I hope you make it count and get a data with 170 points because otherwise its pretty much useless and you'll need to reset for weeklies
>>551784079why?
>>551784056hard-carried by gameplay and the grind (they especially love the grind)
>>551784240as that other anon said, getting it on a higher difficulty is better so you can keep it foreverI've had my DT T15 for a month now
>>551784430but why would he need to remove it for weeklies?
You keep your t14 even if you escape midway for save data right?
>>551784605do you not complete your D8 runs for 2K white fragments? I mean you could probably run D9-D10 but thats obnoxious
I love how Mika is always hogging all the epiphanies during serious runs, but the moment I am trying to farm a 0 card deck, the fucker with only 2 cards is always sparking to add more. Fuck this kusoge and the nigger gooks who design it.
>>551784430>trigger haku in tunnel>kill wolf>get final copy>leave after the last shop>keep your deck>still get almost full pointsWe haven't had to reset lab 0 since 2 patches ago bro...
why did they even add those generic epiphanies... fucking hell, man. those gooks are retarded
Misinformation the general
>>551777578Fuck that's sadI was looking forward to cool (and lewd) mindbreak fanart
>>551784684yes you can literally escape on the last boss and if you're doing the third floor you can get 2 boss copies, escape and still keep
>>5517849682 fortitude is good though what do you mean ;)
>>551785053Damn, I thought people resetting for t14 were wasting their event currencies, but alas, it was me who lacked the critical information....
>>551783762blessed
>>551785271the bad thing about this for sereniel in particular is that you have less chances of getting the purple ball weapon that can drop on haku since you can't kill him to keep the savebut for others generally its really good
they really need to rework the potential system because only like 3 nodes are usefulthe combatant who takes advantage of the entire is mei lin off the top of my head
>>551785462it doesn't make much difference. she has low multipliers, the ball is best but not by a big margin.
its time for your weeklies, sweetie
>>551785679But I am pumping to mommy.
>>551785679Time for TCM to destroy Judas again...
>>551785679Orlea wouldn't push me to become a wagie.
it is time for MILK
>>551785679forgetting to get 500k cumulative boss score is my weekly
>doing my weekly Sererun>got some good epiphanies >last event before the boss gives me Fragment of the Empty Void>finally beat the boss and the reward is an epic equipment >it's Foggy Crystal BallJ U S TUST
>finished my last lab 0 run minutes after reset
and retards were defending the stupid rng of this game...
>just noticed that I didn't do Judas before reset What an awful week
>>551786502Be like me and don't take it>kill boss>Fragment is offered>turn it down in case I get crystal ball>beat extra boss>Fragment again
Give me one good reason why you can't swap gear while inside Chaos
>>551787409Because they get covered in sweat.
>>551787409Your girls will get jealous
>>551756951You're right. Amir is just as good as characters like Sereniel, and anyone who says otherwise is choking on YouTuber cocks.
>>551787409It would detract from the simulation aspect of the game
>doing my weekly Sererun
>>551787409Give me one good reason why you can't get an organ transplant while doing your job?
>mei lin (x)Always impresses me how stupid his posts are
>>551787692>he sees thoseskill issue
should I?
>>551788141>no event coinswtf are you doing
bwos I got peko in 2 rolls
>>551788603gz bwo
At what level should I start farming memory fragments?
>>551784968bro is 1 month late to the party
Perfect run until this dogshit
>>551783736Your frag setup?
>>551783736Can I use her?
>>551789131kek might as well take the mark since it synergizes with Selena
>>551776471>>551777578That Mei Lin one was from the first art contest.
>>551787592She's just as good at extracting my semen, that's for sure
>>551788603this isn't true. i did five rolls and didn't get her.
>>551789352cute
>>551789313Marks applied with Sereniel result in extra attacks performed by Sereniel, though. Selena won't eat those stacks.
>>551790113skill issue
>>551790113Check your partner roster again, because statistically speaking you should have two and a half pekos.
>>551790113why don't people ask for toots in /czn/
>>551790448I asked once but an anon antitooted me and I lost the 50/50
>homing laser>divine epiphany>4 agony
>>551790448I've asked for toots on two separate occasions and no one tooted me. So I stopped asking. We just aren't that kind of thread I guess.
>>551790664Now you can run a 2/2/2
>>551790664>he has a cursed corpse activatorcongrats Anon
>>551781809LMAO jesus
>>551777578The desc on the tressa art is funny too...
>>551781591>>551781809They're going to have to dismantle Cassius so hard that his "nerf" or "balance adjustment" is literally going to need to be a fundamental, ground-up rework to his entire kit. ...OR, they just make it so that you can only complete 1 quest per turn.
I only have Laboratory 0 available for some reason.How do I unlock Laboratory 1 and so on?
>he isn't at lab11bricked
>>551791779
>>551791779bro you should be lab 8+ at this point...
>he thinks the higher the number the better"[chaos] 0 nightmare" (deep trauma) is the highest difficulty in the game
The funniest thing is, it's only the 0 cost gimmick that allows some other chars that have specific cost 0 features built into them to abuse the system. FUCKING NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THE SAME SHIT, SO NERFING IT WILL MAKE IT WORSE FOR EVERYONE DESPITE NOT BEING BROKEN IN OTHER CASES.
Anyone got the locker-girl home screen, the one coming with the February banner?
>s2 drops>Announcement of a ML versions of charactersExpect this to happen because it's smilegate and they always do this
How much of a brick is Destroy over Back to hand?
>>551785146>2 fortitude1 resolve*
>>551792484NO FUCK YOU LEATHERMAN
>>551792564like 50% worse
>>551792564>>551792734Theres plenty of Destroy in the Top 5 leaderboard
Does the instinct weakness plasma missile stack if I copy them?
>>551792484
>>551792460We are not concerned with balance, young padawan. We are concerned with selling new units.
>>551792971Yea, it'll go up to instinct weakness 4.
>>551792564>>551792845The leaderboard destroy decks compensate by having one or two copies with 2-3 afterglow. Anon's deck is totally reliant on the 1 afterglow from each homing laser L (brick)
>>551776441Haru is sexy...
They should have given us a 5-star selector for Christmas.
>>551793231this is literally the top 5 deck though, did you do better than this "brick"?
>>551793340anon???
>>551793340dumb slut
>>551793376Yeah I'm #1
>>551793231you don't need to stack afterglows, its literally useless to have too much of it
>>551793537>>551793614What?
>>551793724waiting for your best record screenshot or your mom dies in her sleep tonight
>>551793340I too want gibs but they released a character literally the 24th, giving a free selector the 25th is kind of dumb.
>>551792730Aiieee.
>>551793903Soz but your curse is reflected back to your mom...
>>551793973Just don't include the limited in it, duh. Also, I didn't necessarily mean a *free* one.
>>551749303Do I need dupes for her
>>551794178>13 turnwhat?
>>551794325anon is really bad at photoshop
>>551793340Shinobu makes my pp hard.
>>551794325the worst part of this is that he tried to pose as a good player, photoshoped shit like a retard and took 8 turns on team 1 lmao
>>551785594Why would the ball be better than the gun?
>run going on>only missing epiphany on an important card>it's a generic one
>>551793183Cool, I just got a save data file with 4 fucking instinct weakness. Sadly it had 0 divines and no mythic gear but it could be amusing, at least I wiped bosses faster than before though.
>>551793340They should have given us *anything* for Christmas. All they gave us is a 10-pull apology for saying that there wont be any limiteds or anything like that, on the same day that they released the first limited.
>[Ark City] – Excursion Improvements>When a combatant is marked as a Favorite in Unigram, they will now appear in available outing areas after 18:00 (UTC+0) each day.>all areas unlocked>set mei lin as favorite days ago>no mei lin two days in a rownice game
>>551794802isn't the ball 40% multiplicative? it's a tad bit better
>>551794325He cleared the first part in 3 turns
>>551794802unless you are talking about ctuhullu gun
>>551750592>>551795229
>>551795226anon what kind of damage control is this
I thought this card was a brick but it's pretty good. It's an extra laser and versatile too
>>551794314She doesn't get a massive power spike but e2 does make her considerably comfier, especially in chaos.I rolled 1 copy, bought another and used my omega code for the 3rd and then rolled Peko.
>>551795372it should have had initiation
Okay now this is starting to piss me off.>All combatants vital signs are normalNo they the fuck aren't. That's why they're all standing your lobby, bitch. I can't counsel them or erase their memories and I got corrupted save data piling up with every run.
>>551795226That is not how it worksI cleared the 1st part in 4 turn and it still shows 15 turns in the result
Yukis voice is so hot, can't play her long before i need to goon
>>551794325>>551794741>>551794419>>551795371These people literally don't play the game. People who play the game can look at their own best record and see nothing is unusual about 13 turns
>>551795618Same, except I can't play her long because SHE FUCKING SUCKS
>>551795526>epione is your last used teamhmmmmmmmmmm
Is the Cthulhu weapon locked behind some chaos level? I always get the fkn armor
>>551794325>>551794741>>551794419>>551795371>>551795589reeeeeetardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXrSDMdudds
>>551795589That's exactly how it works.
>>551750592We just need more characters that are better than the standard lineup, shut your retarded faggot ass up, literally mindbroken by haru-yuki-chizuru being garbage.>>551795331https://files.catbox.moe/wzl4o9.webm
>>551795959The purple gun? I remember someone saying that it's a 1/6 chance of getting it from the squid
>>551796247Thanks, i'm just unlucky then
>>551795959drops from the same guy
Should I build my yuki? I have Hugo for order enemies but she seems fun
>>551796503She was only legitimately good for the first phase of the last leaderboard boss. There's no reason to build her now if you have khalipe or even sereniel
>>551793340award winning loli as of today
>>551795827alright genius then explain this i have multiple combatants with corrupted data piling up and none of them show up in the therapy screen.
>>551795526maybe you should open a ticket or ask on the offiical trooncord or something, that sucks.
>>551796704restart the game
>>551792564You're trading away Afterglow for it, I think it's pretty bad but that's personal opinion.
Really love to get the correct epiphanies only to get fuck by the rng copy lads
>13-turngate exposes half the thread as being touristsshocking. totally surprising!
>>551796643She has to get buffed in season 2, right? I can't imagine how bad she will be without all the shit she gets from lab0 like her best gear and her designated forbidden card. At least nia will still have curiosity and adagio when hunger is gone
>>551797527It's battouver anon.
whoki?
>>551797058I have multiple times. On different platforms. Before and after reset.
Chizuru's kit is so restrictive I know it's for lore reason but at least make it so the mechanic is optional. You literally can't run her with all the other units and you get fucked with AP+ divine too
So how well is Sereniel selling compared to the past banner girls?
>>551795071It happened to me too, I even had 19 characters at the time (with 20 guaranteed to show up node) and everyone shown up except her.
>>551797821I just don't use it if I'm bringing d*cks with AP divine pipis
Sereniels move to hand effect doesnt count as draw right?
Bros, what do I pick, right one?
>>551795618>this pose became canon
>>551798023move from deck = drawmove from discard/graveyard = not a draw>>551798050yes
>>551798050Yep, it's the card that makes her busted
>>551780558>Why do the monster card cost so fucking much??? Some of them isnt even that good.They prob thought most people would be trying to farm for monster card deck or something which would be beyond retarded since they are so bad but its SG so i wouldnt put it past them if they thought this
>>551798198>>551798219Thanks.
>>551798050I’m a fan of the right. Not exactly THE right epiphany as seen here but a contender for best
Remember when we thought there would be no limit for save data in the highest difficulty? Good times
>>551798227if the monster cards ever become required, i'm out. i refuse to farm for cthulhu gun, either
Rate my photoshop skill
>>551781809Tressa is the issue btw.
>Clear planet at difficulty 10>Still have to do 6, 7, 8 and 9 for codex recordplease no
>>551781809nia is just THAT bad
left or middle? I have an upgrade card for laser generation
>>551798572but they bundled the tressa and cassius nerfs togetherwhy do people still think they are ok with how cassius is?
>>551798637just don't do it. winners quit! turn off the screen.
>>551793340They actually gave us nothing for Christmas.
>>551798365I'm only level 22, still learning so I have no clue what is good and what isn't. Morale seems like a pretty OP buff so far.
>>551798471I'm more impressed by how bad your team 2 is compared to your team 1
>>551791963>>551792023>>551792241>>551792319Uh, OK? So how do I get to higher levels of Labyrinth 0? I can select Labyrinth 0 I II III IV V VI and so on but I can't seem to find where to upgrade the mode itself?
>>551798659Because this is FaGates we talking about.
>>551780558spirit kefox warrants such high cost though
>>551798219Is it?
