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PRIDE edition!

Previously in /coopg/: >>551611560

>Latest News/Updates:
Darktide:
Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719

Vermintide 2:
Gifts of the Wolf Father
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098
Hotfix 6.9.2 patch notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330

>Acknowledged
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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kiss yer kroogers
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>>551782182
cute!
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>>551782182
one on the right is ork shit
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>>551781840
Sisters and Tech Priest are the only classes I could see fat shark adding that would actually give the game a healthy player base again.
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>551783571
You will get an administratum scribe and you will like it.
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>>551782738
Never happened.
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>>551783968
Fatshark making an administratum scribe a class seems like a fantastic way to bleed the game of players.
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>>551784118
CYA!
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>>551784331
nice bike
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>player doesn't hit ready at pre game
>leaves the instant the timer runs out
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>>551784331
...
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>>551781840
so true sister
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>>551783571
how different would a sister be from zealot
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whats the more fun or better game? vermintide 2 or darktide?
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>>551785745
Space Marine 2.
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>>551785410
More ranged focused and tankier maybe have a seperate Talent tree for miracles.
Vermintide 2 showed that Fathsark is more than willing to add Similar but Different classes.
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>>551785745
darktide if you prefer simpler games, vermintide if not
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>>551782182
>>551784118
>>551784331
>>551784863
>>551784906
>>551785745
>>551781840
>>551783713
Made for Big Guilliman Cock
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>>551785745
Darktide
>>551785813
Still Darktide you roll slop enthusiast.
>>551783561
Stupid ogryn attention whore. Kill thyself.
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>>551786438
Primarchs have no sex drive. Their penis is only for peeing and thats all. The Emperor had no reason or desire to allow his "sons" the ability to reproduce or be sexually aroused by anything.
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>>551785745
both games are fun anon, both have their weaknesses and strengths
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>>551785745
Darktide obviously.
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>>551786590
>Stupid ogryn attention whore
Ironic when you post in the faggot thread who are all only about attention whoring.
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>be me gaming on my desperado cum
>some faggot 2000lvl psyker poxbreaker (irl mentally ill) starts shitalking on mic or arm chair generaling
>have VC muted while blasting hatsune miku and blasting heretics so idc
>nigga starts trying to grief me and green circle chase
>rush so far ahead the fag cant shoot barrels if he cant even see me :)
>rape him on the scoreboard
>faggot rage quits in the elevator at the end cos he saw me mogging him 800k to his pathetic 400k dmg with only 45dmg taken
poxbreaker truly is the toxic shitter title desu va theyre always giga jealous of us true survivors desu neeeee
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>>551788304
That totally happened I was in the elevator
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>>551788304
youre so fucking cool man can i have your babies?
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>>551788304
Did you get bullied during a match and decided to come up with a totally true cool story about how you don't care?
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Crouishers could be here...
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>>551788304
>me unga
>team bunga
text
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>>551788474
>>551788482
i can smell the jealous seethe MMMMM so good.
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>>551788685
oh no i meant it what i said, im already thinking of names for our children
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>I was in a TEAM
>EVERYBODY DIED!
>but not me
>I killed all the crushers on my way
>I didn't bother reviving my shitmates
>win in the end
>Sydney Sweeney is all like "oooooh babe plz plz suck my tiddies!"
>I'm like "nah babe I have to keep Tiding"
>she's still waiting on my bed as I type this
True Story.
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>>551788795
U must first have anal bleeding (male period) to be able to get mpreg.......... (also this captcha is aids)
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>>551788989
This is true. I'm Sydney Sweeney

Heil Hitler btw
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>>551788989
This is true I was the crushers
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>watch a mister E video
>his scum is named the same as mine
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>>551787707
I post in the thread that's made first. Simple as.
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when the FUCK does the shop reset i need a reason to buy that one 5 dollarino aquila pack
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>havoc sissies cant function unless their hands are held and they all have to rely on a real man to keep them afloat
all havoc players should wear short skirts and crossdress for the Auric GODs who run this general
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>>551789230
Why would you possibly name your scum "Stimmer-E"?
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>>551788304
fake and gay
>>551788989
I believe.
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>551789373
>551788304
Trying to troll both sides i see
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>>551789180
BABE SHUT THE FUCK UP WHO ALLOWED YOU TO TALK? BY ALLAH I SWEAR
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You come up with original names for all your characters right anon?
You aren't boring and just name them after your username right?
You aren't a gigantic faggot and put your user in brackets (you aren't special no one gives a shit) right anon?
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>>551789629
I didn't bother picking a name I use the default one.

I'm tired of counting fucking empty boxes.
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>>551786810
NTA but I hate when people post worthless non-answers like yours.
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>>551789629
obviously thats the most fun part! but im not telling so it wont get stolen!
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>>551789629
I named all of my characters after the different sephirah of the Kabalah tree of life
(Hokma, Tiphereth, Yesod, Malkuth, Netzatch)
And FlorgeGroyd
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>>551784134
just think of all the cosmetics they will sell, eighteen different varieties of eyeglasses alone. the meganekko crowd will empty their wallets BIGLY
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>>551789180
We love you Miss Sweeney!!!
>>551786438
Based
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>>551789941
I was halfway to typing "gay" when i saw the last name
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>>551789286
answer me please :(
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>>551790208
Next Thor's Day
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>>551789180
show tits
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I regret using my $12 to buy hive scum. I could have used that for the 7th class instead.
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>>551790208
An entire year later!!!
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>>551790308
Is google broken?
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>>551790375
nyooo...
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>>551790208
January 1 2026
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>>551789180
Imagine throwing away your career to pander to MIGA which is dying as we speak. Couldn't be me.
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>>551790406
yeaaaaah You're not Sydney Sweeney..
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>>551790532
Oof. Looking awfully off-topic here
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Wtf is this shit?
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>>551790770
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>>551790796
>mutants
fun
>barrels
fun
>enhanced blitz
VERY fun
>extra poxbursters
unfun, gay, and piss and cringe and gross and ew and nty
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>>551789879
boohoo
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>>551789879
hey I mean you must value everybody's opinion
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>>551789286
>>551790208

Next year
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>>551789629
>You come up with original names for all your characters right anon?
All my characters have original names, except maybe my zealot but I'm too lazy to change it and I do like it and think it fits.
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>>551789391
Gordon-Fentman
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>>551781840
am i crazy insane loony for thinking that 12 dollars for the hive scum dlc is highway robbery
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>>551789941
Gross.
>>551789629
I do that yes. Glad I’m not gay or boring. :)
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average ranged havoc scoom game
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>>551790770
I think you’re correct. That button in the top left corner is looking mighty juicy…
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>>551793870
No, a character DLC that is half the cost of an actual game is insane.
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>>551788304
they hate us cuz they ain't us
and they ain't us cuz they bad
simple as
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>>551788304
I would've just forced spawn a monstrosity or even a demonhost and then left and let them deal with it by themselves.
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when you shoot an ogryn in the head but only hit his brain
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>>551798797
would be amazing if even a single one of those modders gave a fuck about readability
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>>551794190
>editing out names
coward
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Wait, do you guys seriously have problems reading these charts? They're not the best, but they aren't that poorly laid out.
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>>551793870
Even the $8.99 plus tip "sale" price is pushing it.
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>>551800802
You schizos ain't ever finding me!
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>>551783513
serves you right
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I tried something but the result is meh, I share it anyway
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>>551801724
Truly it is Moebian time.
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>>551786747
They don’t have a sex drive but they should still technically have semen and balls and stuff like regular Astartes and Custodes
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>>551801465
>caring this much about a splitfag
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>>551802930
you don't have to be so salty splitfag
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>tismcharts
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>playing through an entire havoc mission with only field improv to cleanse corruption
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>>551802924
>and stuff like regular Astartes and Custodes
Why should they? Primarchs aren't humans. Astartes and Custodes were human once, Primarchs were never human.
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>in every mission someone has to play cod to grenade 99 crushers and shoot 999 gunners
>nobody ever does because they want to play darktide
>forced to be veteran to actually finish a mission
>hate every gun except big iron#2 and red hose#2
>big iron reloads too much to handle the endless tide of shootsmen alone
>people call me bad for using las weapons
The plasma gun fucking sucks and so does 40k
I wish I was occasionally shooting big rats in the chest with my black powder handgun between caving small rat heads in with my hammers
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>>551804220
>people call me bad for using las weapons
in what universe
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>>551804220
None of these complaints are real unless you play exclusively H40
if you play exclusively H40, consider just quickplaying with shit loadouts to do whatever and have instead, it's way more fun unless you insist on peak performance every game
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>>551803371
Call me when Zealot isn't relegated to bookbitch in Havocs, and I'll go back to playing it in them. As things stand, I'm bored out of my mind with that build.
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>>551785745
I just tried out Vermintide 2, but I didn't like it as much. I don't know what exactly was it, but it felt "empty" in general. Maybe it's the graphics, the sound or something. I'm really not sure. Getting jumpscared against an assassin really surprised me in that there was no sound. Maybe it's a good or a bad thing, but yeah.
It also felt slow when swinging, though I was playing the dwarf (superior race btw) with the hammer.
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>>551804220
>>551804479
I thought a couple of the las weapons were good in 40s. I at least remember a las pistol Vet doing well.
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>>551804470
/coopg/ has this tendency to call lasgun users "retards" simply because they can’t comprehend a veteran using anything other than a plasma gun.
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>>551805002
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8
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>>551805002
The only lasweapon i've ever seen called irredeemably bad in here is the infantry, people talk up the laspistol and recon all the time.
We even have some helbore truthers floating around.
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>>551805253
>We even have some helbore truthers floating around.
You goddam right
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>>551805253
Laspistol is just a better helbore.
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>>551805253
I sometime bring an infantry lasgun in auric, but I have the autofire mod
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>>551804884
they're good but some of the people playing h40 decided they're not good so thats the basis on which you get invited sometimes
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i've been obsessed with havoc today since i started taking it seriously but i keep fucking dying after my teammates die, i feel like its impossible for me to clutch any situation, and don't get me started on fighting chaos spawn 1v1, i'd rather get shot in the head, ngmi bwos...
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>FullAuto cheat mod
>chinese and russian localization
Pottery.
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>>551805253
Infantry las are good for the exact same reason recons and laspistols are, just tuned differently. The fast one feels like a recon with a good scope if you use the autofire mod.
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>>551806598
What rank? You should be able to carry missions up to 25 or you aren't ready to pull your weight in H40
if you're above that then what can you do, luck of the draw. It's very hard to actually soloclutch havocs after a certain point, it's designed to punish you for picking bad teammates.
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>>551806598
Chaos Spawn 1v1 depends on your weapon, but it's often a pain in the ass. As for being unable to clutch, it's normal past a certain point in Havoc (mid 20s or low 30s, I'd say), especially if your allies' respawn is in a bad spot. Often, there's just too much shit to deal with. Havoc is a lot more dependent on good teammates.
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>>551806608
nothing wrong with an autofire mod if you want to preserve your hand
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So, what's the "when" to jump into another difficulty? Currently I was on Heresy on my Ogryn and it was all good, I don't think I lost a single match but they were just a few.
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>>551806929
rank 26 just today, before that it wasn't that bad, and yea i think havoc is really turning me into an elitist by not allowing people with "optimal" builds in my party just because i know its not just about being optimal, its flat out about being viable
>>551807017
yea, maybe i just don't know its combos and windows as much as plague ogryn, i feel like ogryn and nurgle beast are much better designed compared to the fucking chaos spawn and its ridiculous attack speed, and righto about the teammates
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>>551806759
>>551807194
Don't call a weapon "good" if you have to mod the fucking game to make it serviceable, lol
The weapon as Fartshark intended sucks gigantic donkey dick
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>>551807442
>anything below aurics
As soon as you unlock them
>aurics
Can do damnations without being carried
>maelstorm
Can do aurics without being carried
>Havoc
Can do maelstorms without being carried
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>>551807462
>maybe i just don't know its combos and windows as much as plague ogryn
Yeah, it's harder to fight, for sure. You could always use Creature Spawner to practice. You'll pick it up much more quickly in a focused setting like that
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>>551807442
When you feel like it.
If you go up a difficulty and get your ass beat then either improve your build or go back down and work on fundamentals for a bit.
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>>551806598
Being unable to clutch on sub30 is not a good sign. You are too reliant on other teammates. Should practice a lot on a melee class to get better.
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>>551807596
It's not about making it servicable, it's just about not ruining your mouse. Only an old man wouldn't actually be able to click faster than the infantry las firerate, so it's not about the weapon performing well, it's about not wanting to ruin my mouse.
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>>551807596
(you)
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>>551807834
>mouse
I'm more concerned for my hands at this point, tbqhwyfam. A round or two with the Tac Axe unmodded leaves my hand angry with me these days. I don't use the faster weapons without autoswing/fullauto anymore.
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>>551807834
>Only an old man wouldn't actually be able to click faster than the infantry las firerate,
I'm only 37 :(
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>>551807834
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>>551807990
idk if it's how I hold my mouse but I never got wrist issues or whatever, but I have ruined multiple mice playing PoE and similar games so nowadays I try to rebind or use mods so I don't rape my switches
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>hand hurts after gaming
You are either playing for way too long or are ridiculously fat.
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>>551807442
It's easy to do the bare minimum of surviving as an ogryn and even a mediocre taunt ogryn who doesn't die is often useful all the way to aurics
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>>551808129
I dunno. Could be genetics, or maybe you're just younger than I am. I'm in my 30s
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>>551808095
What is this retard post supposed to imply? You think people can't click faster than the firerate on the infantry las? It's like 3 per second dude lmao. Non-disabled humans can manage like 5 per second no problem sustained
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>>551808186
People who lift weights are often susceptible to hand pain. Not that you would know anything about that lol
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>>551808186
>>551808681
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>>551808681
>People who lift weights are often susceptible to hand pain.
because they're first timers doing things improperly
anon was right about you being a fatty, wasn't he.
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>>551808851
>because they're first timers doing things improperly
No. This is an even bigger problem for advanced lifters
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>>551808703
Very bad.
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>>551804801
VT is older with worse graphics and had less QoL features so it feels incomplete by comparison but I still like it
>>551806608
Kek
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>>551808681
This concept is poorly understood by most modern people, but believe it or not, conditioning your tendons helps them grow stronger. People who lift are suspectible to hand pain because they spent their entire life not conditioning them beforehand and should have started out more slowly.
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>>551809296
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It feels incomplete compared to Darktide. Which is a shame, because I'd love to just main dwarf as much as possible in that game, but the game is just eh.
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>>551808681
>>551808129
>>551808091
>>551807194
you need to hit the gym man that shouldn’t be happening
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>>551809076
absolutely untrue, tendon problems are a beginner issue and an issue for people who are roided out so hard their tendons can't keep up with their muscle mass anymore, which you won't have to worry about if you're not a world class strongman or bodybuilder
if you actually use your hands in your life and condition your tendons a bit by doing this, you will never ever develop tendon pain from clicking your mouse playing shopclick or ratclick. Like, you must be able to acknowledge that there are factors at play that make some people suspectible to this while others never get it.
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I use a shitty 35$ mouse you can bet your ass I'll use the autofire mod lol
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>>551807596
you realize you can just click manually and it does the exact same amount of damage right? the mod doesn't increase firerate
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>>551809409
Thanks for the irrelevant and incorrect response, ChatGPT
>>551809672
>and an issue for people who are roided out so hard their tendons can't keep up with their muscle mass anymore
I think it's funny that you are such a dyel that you can't imagine this issue happening to natties and that you sort of identified the problem but tried to tack on beginners who don't encounter muscle imbalance issues without offering an alternative cause
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any scros wanna game? playing through the campaign for the first time :)
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NIGGERS! *fart*
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>cheaters so assblasted about their own cheating that they out themselves as poorfags and handlets
good times
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is Darktide fun
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>>551808681
>everyone already dunked on you
Shame, lmao get fucked fatty.
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>>551810709
Pipe down, twink
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>>551810764
yes if you can stand the boring early game long enough to get to the fun stuff
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>>551810771
Your grip is barely strong enough to jack my cock off
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>>551810783
I piped your mom down last night, cheater
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i dont lift im on a 4chan general for fantasy videogames
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>>551810991
>anon need to think about me tugging it because his hand is sore
Lmfao poor lil baby with his tender wittle hands :(
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>>551810375
>I think it's funny that you are such a dyel that you can't imagine this issue happening to natties
It doesn't really because for non beginners tendons strengthen faster than muscle mass builds, and muscle mass caps out before tendons do unless you do REALLY retarded shit, but keep ranting on about shit you're clueless about.
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>>551811221
Just say you aren't muscular enough to have encountered this issue and shut up, weak bitch
>>551811196
Keep talking like that and i'm sure to cum
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>retard has a melty because he can't lift heavy bars properly
That's grim bro
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>>551811104
the discussion is about how to prevent wrist pain from clicking in games the community lovingly dubs "shopclick" and "ratclick", you'd have to be pretty silly or biased to think it's not related.
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>>551811221
Its an over compensation with your hands/forearms when doing an exercise.

Basically the fucking dumbass has terrible form and is trying to pass it off as an actual issue.
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>see previous thread
>retards actually trying to make arguments about the boltgun being bad (on veteran) in havoc
>when it unironically has the same ammo efficiency as the plasma gun
>hits extremely similar breakpoints on just about everything that matters, but does so without overheating
Are you fuckers just clinically retarded or something? Hardstuck in 20-30 and unironically thinking plasma is good for cleaving hordes, and bolter should be magdumped? Please tell your wranglers to stop letting you on the internet.
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>>551811450
No, it's about desperately coming up with excuses to cheat after getting compared to Russians and Chinese, lol
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why do you move SO slow in darktide
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>>551811425
Uh huh buddy. You know when you try to pose like that, you have to keep in mind it does nothing when the people you talk to actually know these things. All you're doing is confirming to me that you're weaker than me and that you're mad and a liar, none of which actually helps you a lot in any discussion.

Also funny how you're also the gay rageposter. Truly a mental illness, but at least now I know that the guy who keeps posting about sucking dicks is a twink lol
>nooo noooooo stop saying im weak because my hands hurt when i click on poxwalkers... im owning you! im pissing in you!
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>>551811842
Boltgun is bad. It's a shitty sniper and only a retard magdumps into bosses and it's bad at that too.
You're better off using the helbores in havoc because the charging meter synergizes well with armourbane and surgical.
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>>551811907
oh thank god last time i checked the thread there were two anons celebrating a successful session, i was worried this general was headed toward a mentally sound space
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>>551811907
>one of the most common issues among advanced lifters isn't real because the other girls in the spin club don't have it!
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>>551812497
Bro you lost just give up
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>>551811859
It's all downhill from the game being more range-focused
>need a way to survive being shot at in the open because otherwise the maps would need to be a constant cover run
>add slides which make you immune to ranged fire
>have to sprint to slide so you don't just sit in slide 100% of the time without penalty
>but if sprint actually made you move significantly faster than enemies it'd fuck up combat
>so sprint is just vt2 walk speed and dt walk speed feels like you're a geriatric
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I refuse to mod my game. I want to experience it exactly how Fatshark intended and this makes me morally superior.
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>>551812308
Not my point. Every retard seems to think plasma gun is the greatest thing ever, but boltgun is exactly as good or bad as the plasma gun is, because they have extremely similar damage output, with the boltgun trading infinite cleave for being able to shoot more (and thus, in practice, handling gunner balconies and flamer spam better).
I do think helbore is wonderful and among the best weapons vet has access to, but here you're trading DPS for infinite ammo, and sometimes you just need raw DPS, not infinite ammo. But helbore vets in havoc 40 tend to be some of the best players, which usually makes up for it.
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I don't mod because I don't have severe muscle imbalances in my hands :)
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I don't care if you mod your game or not, this is not your tumblr blog, faggots.
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>>551812846
You've made this point before.
And while I think the plasma gun is incredibly boring now. I think you hate it because tranner did a "meta build" which is just a meat grinder jerk off that a bunch of retards followed not understanding the breakpoints.

I don't think a single competent vet uses it anymore. If hellbore was meta you'd think the same thing.
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>>551813072
I like the plasma gun, it's good and fun to use. I find the delay between trigger pull and actually firing annoying, so I prefer the boltgun, but I acknowledge that the plasma is definitively stronger in auric, and has its own relevant strengths even in havoc.

I dislike the plasma gun because only fucking retards use it. Accept one into your game and there's a solid 70% chance the player is dogshit and will completely refuse to actually shoot the shooters.
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>>551813314
I mean that was literally my point. Just look at the perks I guess next time when build inspecting.
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I only do roleplay builds I have the cosmetics for it.
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>>551813614
I just pick the cosmetics with the most purity seals.
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>>551813046
>>551809409
>>551810709
>>551811221
>>551811847
this this this
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>>551812603
Admitting that you are too weak to encounter an issue common to strong people and then citing that as proof of your strength? You are too weak and retarded to even be speaking to someone like me
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>>551813575
>Shout is meta and I don't think it's bad.
>Kraks are meta and I don't think they're bad.
>Piss tag is meta and I don't think it's bad.
>Dueling sword and power sword are meta and I don't think they're bad.
It's literally just plasma sissies that are consistently really dogshit players, to the point that inspecting their build isn't worth it or even necessary. I don't know what causes this phenomenon. No other class suffers from it to the extent that veteran does. Players with the overrated cookie cutter meta build tend to do fine on other classes. It's just the plasma users that always fucking suck.
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>>551814062
>handlet desperately needs the last word of an argument he lost hard
Cope as bad as your form? Not surprising. I'll give you the next reply this my final (You)
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>>551808703
Multiplayer basically doesn't work and it's a poorly optimized glitchfest, may eventually become a good game in a few years though
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>>551814062
>an issue common to strong people
>professional soccer players often die on the field as their heart stops because they ran for 90 minutes, that means cardio is bad for your heart
Just lift some weights and you'll likely never encounter tendonitis from darktide or vermintide ever again. Final (You), schizoposter.
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>>551814220
You rather can't read.
Or are so blinded with anger you just used this discussion to vent about people being bad at videogames, ignoring that I literally said shitters use it.

Buy an ad bro.
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now that the dust has settled, how is it
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>>551814945
I can read, anon.
>If hellbore was meta you'd think the same thing.
I acknowledge that this was said, and I disagree. Unless veterans are inexplicably retarded and will always suck ass no matter their choice of weapon.
Again, no other class is like this.
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>>551814447
>be wrong
>get corrected
>act like a faggot because your ego got hurt
Yep. You're an evermediate perma dyel if i ever saw one. At least you will never have to worry about having overdeveloped flexors
>>551814839
What a retarded argument, even for you
>Just lift some weights and you'll likely never encounter tendonitis from darktide or vermintide ever again
I had to reduce my grip training and do some extensor training to get rid of the hand pain. You just hit 200lb on the bench and now you got a severe case of the dunning kruger effect going on
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>>551815180
>TLDR
Good and fun, but too difficult for bad players.

Scum's skill floor is too high for shitters to ever competently use, and has no easily spoonfeedable build that would allow them to not suck. It'll probably receive humongous buffs when fatshark returns from vacation, because I sincerely doubt that malicelets have an appropriate win rate.
The class is pretty good in the hands of a good player. I have a lot of fun playing it in aurics, and it feels among the easiest/most natural classes to achieve really big scoreboard numbers with. The launcher is so overpowered now that it feels kinda gross to use.
The lack of actual defenses makes it pretty hard to do objectives or revive shitters who take a knee every 20 meters. I feel like I have to rely on desperado a lot of the time just to pick up my tards, after using launcher to clear the crowd around them. But I often just leave them to die if nobody else bothers to pick them up. It's not like arbitrator where you can just laugh off whatever chip damage might come your way.
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>>551815439
You're retarded and overdid grip exercises for whatever little faggot sport you do. Maybe you're even a spastic bodybuilder aspirant who did it as part of a split for no reason. Either way you fucked up and now you somehow think it's normal and a sign of strength when it's really just a sign of you doing retarded shit for no reason
t. been lifting for 8 years now without a single inflammation of any tendon, never had any issue poxclicking either (I still use the full auto mod cause it's comfy)

PS: it's funny you place a 200lbs bench into dunning kruger territory. Like, the 200lbs number in particular. Picking that number admits more about you than you might think. iykyk
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>>551811859
You do? The sliding feels quick
>>551814839
>>professional soccer players often die on the field as their heart stops because they ran for 90 minutes
Wtf that’s scary…
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>>551811859
Probably because you're using a weapon with poor sprint speed, on a class with low base movement speed, with a skill tree that doesn't take move speed nodes, and a build without any stamina.
Staff + greatsword psyker is a crawl, but throw in combat knife and a bit of stamina, and suddenly you're zooming. Same for the usual arbitrator builds. You CAN be fast as fuck if you build for it.
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>tfw been playing knife + laspistol zealot for months
>without autoclick mod
>at best my hand will get mildly tired but no lasting pain
try riding adv/dual sport. you'll get monster wrist/hand endurance. i will admit that i'm a bit of mutant though because i use a left-handed mouse so the clutch hand is my mouse hand. probably helps a lot
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>>551815180
It's boring, it should've been admech or sororitas.
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>>551816242
I knew you'd be too butthurt to keep yourself from dropping yet another seething response
>t. been lifting for 8 years now without a single inflammation of any tendon
And without a single respectable PR too
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>>551817470
>And without a single respectable PR too
kek. got his ass
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>>551817470
>I am superior to you because I lift for numbers, injuring myself in the process
lmao
one day you'll be as strong as me, if you haven't fucked up your body in the process trying to take shortcuts
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>>551818082
>one day you'll be as strong as me,
Yeah. When i'm geriatric and bed-bound
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>>551815180
It's kit is different variations of boring. Either spamshooting everything or m1'ing into hordes. In both cases you pray not to get hit by 2 things at the same time.
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>>551818249
sent that freak flying
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>>551818249
this nigger is proudly telling everyone he gave himself tendonitis and is in rehab but somehow others are the invalids. stay delusional
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>>551810642
Gonna be playing again in about 10-15 minutes if anybody wants to join my strike team. Loving this game just as much as I love VT. Although I prefer VT because I like WH:Fantasy lore more even though end times sucks shit lol.
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>>551810642
>>551818902
You can click the magic number for your share code to automatically copy it to clipboard, then paste it here. Makes it easier for people to join, not having to manually type it in.
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>>551815180
boring obvious barrel scrape that makes you realize this is probably fatshark's last game before getting JUSTed by Tencent if VT3 doesn't land on its feet
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>>551818846
Sure you're like a toddler compared to me, but at least you never had to experience the pain of pushing yourself
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>>551819628
>fucking up and giving yourself an injury because you did things you couldn't handle
>"the pain of pushing yourself"
comedic
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>>551819819
What a dyel way to put it
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>>551819925
retards like you are the reason dyels think lifting is dangerous
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>>551820325
It's obvious that you're merely trying to annoy me as punishment for being better than you btw
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>>551820882
if holding up a mirror to you is what annoys you perhaps there's underlying problems
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>>551820965
No. It's the scrawny little faggot struggling to hold it high enough so i can see it who's being bothersome because i just plopped a steaming turd on his ego
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>>551821590
he's not coming back from this one. it's over
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>all this because anon gets sore hands from clicking too much
Mods?
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How is the shooting line of talents for the ogryn? I like the heavy stubbers a lot but I feel like the shooting talents are basically a meme of "DAKKA DAKKA BOOM BOOM" or whatever. I am just a heavy hitter addict I think. What do you think? Also, I wanted to try the ripper guns more often. Which mark is for what kind of situations?
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>>551822051
Lugger just sucks ass. You can make it work but you have to play like a faggot unless you got a vet and hive on your team. Ripper is better than the stubber as it handles armour better.
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>>551822051
>How is the shooting line of talents for the ogryn?
Somewhat viable. If you absolutely must LOOG, use the achlys twin stubber, practice trigger discipline, and keep your crosshair small (stand still, crouch, brace, fire in small bursts at faraway targets).
Pure ranged builds are bad, you are still required to melee, so at most you'll want to do some sort of hybrid build. The bleed + resist while surrounded by bleeding enemies talents are pretty important.

Don't listen to ripperfag btw, you are supposed to kill crushers with your pickaxe. Ripper is a piece of shit. That retard has been trying to bait people into using it for several months now.
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>>551822051
its fine, it chews through ammo like crazy though, but youre super tanky, youre a tf2 heavy, not really a damage dealer, but you will eat a ton of punishment from rooms of gunners, shotgunners, shooters
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>>551822401
>confusing me with someone else
>still ass mad about a previous argument on 4chan of all things

My bad for doing game discussion during schizo hours.
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>>551822732
>there's a second retard trying to unironically recommend the rippergun now
Sorry for optimistically assuming only one person can be that retarded, and sorry for your condition.
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>ripperhomo is back
Oh boy...
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>>551822732
couldnt help but out yourself, could you
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>>551822863
Both the twin stubber and ripper are not good. I'm sure you are very sound and well adjusted person.
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>>551823069
Twin stubber is alright with fire PBB. Pulls out real fast, is accurate enough for fire bullets to kill really far away targets, and doesn't absolutely rape your ammo reserves the same way ripper does by necessity. It's the boltgun argument again. If you think it's bad, it's likely because you're magdumping it like a retard instead of picking your targets and firing in smaller bursts, but I must admit that's pretty on point for the ogryn LARP.
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>>551823420
>if you don't fire like a retard the stubber is okay
>but you have to fire like a retard with the rippergun because. BECAUSE YOU JUST DO OKAY.
>Its the fucking plasmagun schizo having another whinge.
Amazing arguement. Utterly raped me.
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>>551823420
Every random you'll ever meet magdumps bolter. And if you're some pretend "nah bro I headshot everything with it trust" then you're much better off with a different weapon.
>yeah but I play [low difficulty shit]
Then at that point nothing matters and you can have your thumb up your ass and clear missions.
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>>551823629
what are you going on about schizo
things never said for 500, alex
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>take crystalline will
>don't peril and pop at all for a dozen missions
>take it off to invest the points elsewhere
>pop in 3 missions back to back
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>>551823629
>explain how to use a thing in a video game correctly
>bruise some retard's ego
>retard has a melty over it
Truly a /vg/ classic.
>>551823725
You're right that randos hipfire it, but randos are complete fucking retards. Boltgun fires projectiles the size of an xbox, if you can't hit heads with it, that's a tremendous skill issue.
I'm about to play havoc 40 btw.
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>>551823752
>schizophrenic when you brought up the bolter even thought it serves absolutely no purpose to the absolute mid off between the twin stubber and the *i**ergun.
This thread has been awful. Just ban us all.
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they genuinely need to octuple the max ammo for the twin-linked heavy stubbers
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>>551824054
>commonly accepted top-tier gun is actually bad and serves no purpose
Are you being contrarian on purpose, are you trying to bait, or are you genuinely developmentally challenged?
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>>551824152
After playing hive scum lugging in aurics is even more disappointing. You can't even move I don't understand why fatshark makes it so shit.
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>>551824295
i think they're going to buff it soon to compensate. what do you think about starting with 5,000 rounds instead of 600 or so (and also receiving our current total ammunition per small ammo brick pickup)
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>>551824454
>ogryn forever cucked because he can't die in heresy.
I'm sick of the rumbler.
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>>551818902
Fantasy lore is kino yeah. Easily top 5 in the fantasy genre. Gay as fuck that we still don’t have an Ogre mecernary class in VT yet.
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>>551822051
If you want to be a gun lugging ripper ogryn, know that it will be ammo hungry.
mkVI is the best for Lucky Bullet and Flechette combo. You get a 3 for 1 deal on its braced burst fire, that the other rippers need to hipfire to get. Netting you 3 crits or free bullets for 1 proc. This lets it stack max bleed stacks off a single crit, Combined with Point Blank Barrage fire bullets it is a strong room clearer with decent damage against monsters.
its horizontal braced shot is good for clipping off heads in a row. Also has the best finesse damage of the rippers, so it gets a little more out of crits
Blessings: Flechette/Cavalcade

MkII is the best if you don't care about flechette. It has the widest cone giving it a strong room clear with the fire bullets, and the most up close damage for non-crusher removal. Nice ammo dumping problem remover.
Blessings: Blaze Away/Whatever you want. I like Inspiring Barrage so I can keep shooting and ignore even more chip damage while I do it or otherwise fill my toughness quickly in a pinch out in the open.
Can Opener is also an option if you must absolutely must shoot Crushers for your gun lugging vision.

Mk V Ripper; is the best side-arm ripper but probably the weakest lugging ripper. It is the best at special removal at range, with a high minimum pellet count that always counts as doing at least 70% of its damage as long a 1 pellet hits. Highest rate of fire, but highest recoil and smallest cone,
Blessings: Blaze Away/Whatever you want. Again I like Inspiring Barrage to fill toughness at range, and can save you a talent point if you skip Steady Grip.
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The past 150 posts or so have been some of the funniest I’ve read on this website in recent months
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>>551825402
I regret making just one post in there, even though the (you) isn't inflammatory, it's just god-awful "logic". It's just weird to read and how anons commonly reduce themselves to children. This is how children talk.
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When are we getting female Ogryns? I need to express myself.
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>>551826894
Googoo gaga peepee poopoo
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>7/8 missions done for weekly
>start last one
>reset happens
>finish mission
>didn't count for 7/8, counted for new weeklies
Huh, so that's how that works. Can't be mad, didn't have much time last week to play due to the holidays. Ah well, good to know.
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>>551824454
>all skill trees get reworked
>ogryn gets reworked again
>crafting gets reworked
>the other 3 classes get reworked again
>hive scum gets reworked right before and after launch
>ogryn needs to get reworked again again
Maybe if we weren't playing Reworktide the swedes could work on new content.
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>>551827525
they can't, please understand
the mastectomy cosmetics would be too noticeable
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>>551829391
its literally what happens because redditors and the modern video game retards are "ALWAYS BUFF NEVER NERF"
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>>551827525
YWNBAO
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>>551785410
Depends how they go about it. If one of the talent tree branches is hospitaller, then that would probably be the best way to make SoB stand out a bit, but a) balancing this without it becoming OP would be a bitch as piss toughness is already very strong, and b) her other two talent tree paths would likely be ranged and faith focused (ie. buffs) so she's going to tread on veteran/zealot toes anyway.
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>>551789230
>image
… does that really happen to people?
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>>551801724
Not bad at all. I chuckled. Nice work.
>>551803695
But then where does the ‘geneseed’ come from…?
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ggs anons, I got an error code but was gonna hop off anyway
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>>551833884
I also crashed. Ggs
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>>551833594
hundreds of people die a year in accidents like this
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>>551834124
Good. Fuck 'em
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>>551808186
>playing for way too long
I'm thin. That said, I'm a DYELfag, so my weight is probably beside the point anyway. I just hate working out so much. I can barely get myself doing 20 minutes 3 times a week.
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I remember a couple weeks back when I shared that I don't get wrist pain despite playing so many games and shooters since I was ~5 years old, even if I play for hours day after day (even these days), and some schizo on here thought I was lying. Some people on here refuse to look after their bodies at all but jump at the opportunity to make a fool of themselves online!
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Just found out about the Badab war. That shit is crazy. Justice for my nigga Huron.
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>>551835739
This never happened
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>>551836631
I am old enough to remember when they first added Huron to the lore and how angry Chaos Undividedfags were.
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>>551836643
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550286435/#550371232
Thoughts?
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>>551836631
carcharaGODS won btw
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my scoreboard mod seems to keep crashing, any fix for it?
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When are we getting an Age of Sigmar fatshark game
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>>551836631
>”hey, can you spare me 20 dollars over here?”
>”no, but we’re going to spend 100 dollars against you for overstepping”
Pure 40kekino
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>>551837056
The shitpost massreply guy did his usual shtick(extremely low effort obviously insincere) and you took him seriously enough to not only remember it weeks later but legitimately believe he thinks you were lying?
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>>551837901
If only I was a betting man. It's as if I can see into the future when it comes to people like you on here.
>never happened
[prove it did]
>uhh...goalpost-shifting schizomaxxing
Every time. Beautiful.
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what is the latest rat news´ ?
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>>551837901
Im the creator of that post. What the fuck are you on about
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>three posts is “mass replying”
newtards just can’t help themselves
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which helbore variant is good?
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sooo, how am i supposed to synergize uncanny strike with soulblaze? build up uncanny then spray fire? or spray fire first then build up uncanny?
how long do soulblaze stacks last for anyway?
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>>551835739
Same. I just do the basics for health, basic lifting and stretching. Look like a DYEL, but somehow my wrists don't ever hurt no matter how long i play. Remember to take care of your bodies. They say the flesh is weak but it's what we use to operate the machine so might as well make the best of it.
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>>551842585
spray fire first then uncanny
>how long do soulblaze stacks last for anyway?
depends how much you spray the enemy. How many stacks they get. easy to figure out in the meat grinder
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>>551842962
thanksies, as for the duration i'd go figure out but i just finished a havoc 40 by a hair and its 4 am, night night
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>>551843465
same here
sweet dreams
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>>551841071
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e08cee7-3443-4279-a634-e3450b786a57/the-krieg-storm-trooper
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>>551843754
>skipping keystone for +10% attack speed
>kraks without grenade tinkerer
>going deeper than Reciprocity on the right
Why would you link this?
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>>551835739
I have honest to god no fucking clue how you can injure yourself while playing video games

I'll give a pass to the 3rd worlders here who are too poor for good set ups.
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>>551844114
Genetics and unergonomic posture. Sitting hunched over for several hours every day is bad for your back, not having a wrist rest is bad for your wrist, having weird hand posture on your keyboard can fuck up your fingers, and performing ANY repetitive tasks (such as clicking) can lead to inflammation or worse if you have bad genetics. It also becomes worse with age. And that's not even touching on things like arthritis which is linked not only to genetics, but also diet.
Also look up repetitive strain injuries.
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>>551843754
This build fucking sucks dogshit
>Skipping the keystone/subnode that actually enables the helbore to oneshot damn nearly every enemy in the game
Even for auric this build fucking blows
??????
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is this a gimmick or actual zealot build tech?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82EpvAqXth0
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>>551844114
It's pretty easy to do over a long period of time with poor posture. Over a shorter period of time, well as one example when I had my second ever job at a pizza place, I'd go to work almost every day, give my wrist a workout doing dough and scooping 'za out of the oven, then go home, drink and play CS until early hours, rinse and repeat. Developed some RSI/carpal tunnel from that.
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>>551845397
It used to be actual build tech when you could build for CDR on taking damage, but even mentioning such a build absolutely mindbroke every shitter in this general into having prolonged melties.
Health zealot builds are a lot less good now because the main reason to even build for it is gone, and the main reason you could afford to (having near-permanent gold toughness because of CDR stacking) is also dead. +5% health on curios is also extremely retarded, you get more mileage out of a single damage resist to the things that actually hurt your health, unless you regularly eat shit to fucking shooters or something.
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fuckin finally
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>>551836896
Don’t some people still think Huron should replace Abaddon? He’s cool but I think they both have their place
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>>551845771
Post stats.
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>>551845859
honestly i dont care if it sucks or not but good lord finally i get the grenadier gauntlet
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Relic blade is almost everything that I wished the evis was.
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>>551846436
>something entirely different
Hmm...
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>>551846436
I look like that
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>>551845841
Failbaddon, you mean? He earned that nickname for a reason, GW have generally always used Chaos as just shitkicker bad guys to get beat up on and Abaddon pretty much never won any engagement he was in, so when Huron was always more successful in his endeavours that's why people wanted him to replace.

>>551845947
Yeah it's certainly not a minmax one, so have fun trying it out but you'll want to roll Brunt's when you have the cash.
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Give me one reason to not bind mark target to m1 as jarate veteran
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>>551847463
Will do, lad.
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>>551847478
You will be blocked by any remotely competent player.
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>>551847478
>pingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingping
Nobody will want to play with you.
Use a mod to auto tag if you're that lazy and retarded.
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>>551847478
You'll be repeatedly resetting a 1stack tag and wasting a bunch of damage on bosses.
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ripper
>reduce hipfire recoil by 75%
>reduce cof bloom by 66%
>add option for trigger dependent interruptible burst fire instead of always using a self-completing burst
>remove the movement speed penalty when reloading
twin-linked heavy stubber
>double the damage bonus granted by crits and crit weakspot hits
>50% ammo reserve and magazine size increase
>remove the movement speed penalty when reloading
heavy stubber
>improve the wield time by 20%
>remove the movement speed penalty when reloading
rumbler
>remove the movement speed penalty when reloading
kickback
>remove the movement speed penalty when reloading
grenadier gauntlet
>add the slab shield and its heavy attack strings
>33% more damage to carapace and 15% more damage to flak
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when is vermintide 3
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>>551848882
2 weeks
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>>551848809
>even with all of this the havoc meta would not change
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>Mara Vinci
just her accent is enough for me to want to explode her head with a grenadier gauntlet
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year 3 of the two week operation in Tertium
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>>551849324
not playing havoc unless they add reds
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>Ogryn's nuke bomb
this shit is amazing
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>>551851953
ly mediocre. Yeah, just use boom launcher if you want that experience. You use rock or box for Ogryn.
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>>551851953
>scum just gets a point-and-click version of it that does more damage and benefits from boltpistol +25% radius
what a joke just stealing other class' stuff but better
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Should I go martyrdom or blazing piety for relic blade zealot?
Auric/maelstrom btw
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>>551851953
that ogryn was an absolute gigachad, saved the run on hab drekyo
>t.malice bro
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>>551851953
It's ok buddy, enjoy the big kaboom :-)

stay out of my games you fucking retard
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>>551852536
>>551852073
>>551852145
autists always have to optimize all the fun out of their games
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>>551852536
>>551852073
>>551852145
>ermm get out of my games you aren't playing the build i want you to!
Faggots. All of you.
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>Field improv medcrate
>some retard picked up a grimoire
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>>551852617
>>551852719
I bet you take the bleed instead of field improvisation because you want so much to be a woman you fucking faggots.
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>>551852617
>>551852719
Very bizarre and reaching attitude to have. Good job, rage-baiter faggots as usual.
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>>551852335
Anyone? :,(
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How often should you ping?
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>>551853165
Once every minute, any more than that deserves a kick and ban.
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>>551852335
Inexorable Judgement
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>>551853165
As much as you pong
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Be gentle, he's a new cutie: >>550549231
>>551853137
>can't even wait 10 minutes
>>551853165
It isn't a matter of how often you 'should', but rather more of do not over do it. Think of it as a ceiling, not a floor. And sadly with Arbitrators they ping a fuck load due to the awful implementation of their dog callouts being tied to pings. Impressively lazy (per Swededev quality).
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>>551853267
Rumors said it's caca
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>>551853445
You shouldn't listen to rumors
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Ogryn doesn't need a rework, he's fine as he is
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>>551852335
>>551853137
>>551853445
You can get away with martyrdom in auric just fine, it just depends on whether you actually like it.
I personally just use BP because it's nice defensively, and lets you get CDR the easiest without intentionally gimping your health pool. I hate playing around martyrdom with pubtards shooting bursters in my face.
IJ is, indeed, pretty good, but it's better when spamming light attacks, which the RB doesn't like, since they're much more expensive on your heat gauge.
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Vet doesn't need a rework, xhe's fine as xhe is
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>>551854287
t. 5% TDR, 5% rending, 5% reload speed
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Fatshark gave us

>adamant
dog veteran
>broker
stimm veteran

If the datamine/leaks are to be believed, the next DLC class is internally called "cryptic". My question to (You) is: What kind of veteran will it be?
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>>551854416
Absolutely rent free. Have you noticed that no one responds to your zir/xhe posts? Such a dusty old unfunny meme, why does this general get so many dropkicks who autistically post the same shit thread after thread?
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>>551854667
i said xhe because vet can be either gender you dumb faggot
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>>551854839
Uh-huh, sure. Don't play dumb, it ain't cute baitposter.
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>>551852536
>out
Frag is good with field improv on a coordinated team stuckie.
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>>551854953
NTA but I think opportunity cost has killed ogryn's nuke, and the added enemy HP buffs really made it kinda shitty now. Hive scum gets a better one with 3-4 charges while still being a competent class, so if you have a coordinated team, let the scum have the crate charges for grenades, and have the ogryn bring something else.
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>>551854953
maybe if you still need a ritual quickfix, otherwise no you are retarded
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Where the fuck is my force weapon?
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Hell yeah, I got to level 30.
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>>551855529
Nvm I'm retarded, they just told me where the shop was.
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>>551855529
Waiting for you to roll it in Brunt's armoury.
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>>551852335
It has no natural crit, scourge needs you to crit and then land more attacks on the same target, piety gives no crit until 25 stacks so it doesn't start rolling until 25 things die and stumbles if the stacks ever drop. You get no attack speed at all and once the stacks drop all benefits disappear until they max out again
I don't like martyrdom because it's dumb and retarded and eats your curios and your keystone turns off when a teammate drops a medpack on the objective
I tried inexorable judgement and it was pretty good even if you don't max the stacks out all the time. With retributor stance, enemies within and forcing enduring faith with charge twice you can facetank a deamonhost and as long as the team kills it before it corrupts a wound it's basically free
>>551854345
Going by vibes even with blazing piety I got more cdr out of pious cutthroat since you can hit heads all the time without relying on rng or stacks
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>>551855746
>I got more cdr out of pious cutthroat since you can hit heads all the time
You get a baseline 20% crit just from taking BP, and can go up to 30% near-permanently, and will usually sit at another +10% from at least a single Scourge stack. +100% cooldown rate for 3s is more consistent than +75% for 2s, assuming both are active just about permanently.
The difference is relatively minor in practice, of course.
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>>551855214
It's still good for clearing rituals, and if you want to Ogryn to camp the crate. I don't think scum is a fair comparison considering how broken his nades are. I don't think its better then box on havoc or rocks on Aurics.

More just pointing out that anon was a gigantic faggot for shitting on 2 players who were playing malice.
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>>551856940
Oh, yeah, I completely agree.
I'd have giving up rock in auric, one-shotting mutants is fucking awesome.
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>>551857068
>have
hate*
I can't believe I wroted that
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>>551847463
>Yeah it's certainly not a minmax one, so have fun trying it out but you'll want to roll Brunt's when you have the cash.
Not bad eh? It's no Brunt but hey. I just got it while playing some matches.
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>>551857068
The face slide they do always makes me laugh.
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>>551854416
kinda based
>>551856913
you shouldn’t
get to know him first he’s cool
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>>551857206
Also, man it feels great to help out with staggering enemies around. Sniping with it is great, but staggering a whole group no matter the size (except mutants) feels wonderful and useful.
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>>551858165
It also leaves behind an opaque cloud that ruins visibility, and blows up every fucking barrel ever, both of which are incredibly annoying. I've played with GG spammers that were borderline griefing by overusing it. The stagger is incredible, but use it sparingly when you feel it necessary, instead of spamming it.
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I honestly think that new campaign system is worse than original one. Forcing new players to go through specific missions to unlock shit is terrible idea.
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>>551785745
Vermintide 2 is the far more fleshed out and finished product
the game is simpler, but still has loads of challenge
theres more maps
the characters are way more likeable and compelling
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>>551856425
>near-permanently
That's the thing, when it does fall off you lose the crits you needed to get it back faster so the low points are extra low
Forcing a slow 5% crit weapon into the crit route with no attack speed to sit between 40 and 60% seems like a bad idea when you can take the knife with 20% starting crit, a bleed blessing for permanent scourge up to 50% which can carry you to 25 piety with faster attacks easily ending up at 75%
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>>551859214
Sure, but BP should be active just about 100% of the time, and losing it means you're playing too slow.
It only seems like a bad idea in theory, when in practice, you're constantly critting with it anyway. Even if its crits aren't particularly great. Works perfectly fine for me, auric or havoc. Of course I'm sure that Pious Cut-Throat also works perfectly fine, I don't think choosing between them is going to make or break your build.
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Post your favorite Reject and their backstory.
I want to compare autism. I'll post mine in a bit.
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>homie buys game for me
>i try out pskyer
>oh i shoot a pistol until i run out of ammo and then i can make one guy's head hurt
>unlock force sword, doesn't do much
>unlock force staff, and then get smite
>holy shit I have an entire discipline's worth of psychic shit I can do now
Why... don't they just give you this shit off the bat? Why would I wanna play a guy with a pistol instead of a fuckin' space wizard?
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>>551859983
Some gay roleplay shit about not allowing you to use your space wizard magic until you've proven yourself.
You should try out assail, it's really fucking overpowered in the lower difficulties.
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>>551846436
I wish Evis was a tiny bit better against elites and significantly less foam swordy vs hordes.
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>>551859983
Because all classes unlock more shit when leveling? Because that sort of progression is normal in vidya? How new are you to video games? I really like psyker's "hobo phase" where you're reliant on a shitty sword and pistol, feels immersive and reminds me of playing lower level psykers in the tabletop RPGs. Psyker very quickly gets overtuned and by the time he has access to every single goddamn discipline with gamma tier power level I'm left wondering why he's still a reject and not one of the Inq's primary retinue.
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>>551860369
You do use the special, don't you? Almost sounds like you haven't built it right.
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>>551860369
I have tried using the +50% stagger on weakspot hit combined with opportunity strike for rending on stagger on the mk 15 eviscerator and it felt way better to use against crushers so i know it can be fixed if fatshark just increases the stagger against carapace and rending
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Psyker should be banned from using guns when they hit 30 and for all guns in their possession to be nuked.
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>>551861010
Rev it, nigga

>>551861030
Lorelet
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>darktide
>lore
Oh boy, secondary is barking again.
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>>551861087
>Rev it, nigga
Still not good when the crusher i'm actively sawing into isn't even staggered
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>>551861189
It does thoughbeit? Rev, heavy attack, and it stunlocks whatever you hit while sawing through.
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>>551860982
Yes? The problem is that the special animation leaves you quite vulnerable and takes a long time. Against weaker or mid-strength elites, you have to choose between weak light spam, heavies (which are okay but not great), and special attacks. Against Crushers, you need at least 2 special heavies to kill without FOTF, and it's not a great feeling to kill stuff with the Eviscerator both slower and less safely than a fucking knife. I'm not saying they need huge buffs, but I'd like to see them touched up a little bit more. For the lack of safety in their special attacks and the time it takes to complete them, I still think the chain special attacks could be better since it's clear they aren't going to do anything about how strong knives and DSs are (as made obvious by the enemy HP buff rather than player weapon nerfs),
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>>551861159
Even worse, a secondary (may Allah forgive me for saying this) gun psyker.
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>>551861279
Maybe it does and i'm misrembering, but i know regular heavy attacks don't and making them do reliable stagger and damage against crushers is what made it so much better to use because you rarely have the safety to use full revved attacks
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>>551861282
>leaves you quite vulnerable and takes a long time
Be so fr, it does not. Dodge back to create space, rev, heavy attack. Wow, now the carapace dude in front of you is stunlocked.
>how strong knives and DSs are
Well yeah, can't argue against that. It could do with a touch up to bring it more in line with those, but it doesn't have the problems with armour y'all are qqing about.
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>fr
>y'all
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>>551861735
What's wrong unc? N
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>>551861648
>now the carapace dude in front of you is stunlocked.
But the 20 other enemies aren't
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>>551861813
You know you can continue to dodge whilst sawing, yeah? Also generally advisable to hordeclear first.
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>>551861912
Dodging breaks the rev.
>hordeclear first
Do you play on heresy difficulty perchance?
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>>551861912
>You know you can continue to dodge whilst sawing, yeah?
Not without canceling the sawing. Having to activate, swing, saw and cancel multiple time produces very low dps
>Also generally advisable to hordeclear first.
Yes, but after the horde clear there are now still 5 crushers

I'm not saying it's impossible to use, i'm saying you can do everything right and it will still be weak
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>>551861912
>kill the most dangerous enemies last
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>>551862087
>>551862209
It does not cancel it, unless you dodge far enough to get out of range. Try it out.
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>>551862292
Please fuck off and kill yourself
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>>551862453
Nice counterargument. I'm not saying evis is knife or dumbass sword tier OP, but it has some fun tech to figure out with how it works and if you do your complaints here are less relevant. Sawing a crusher to death in one revved heavy hit whilst circular strafing and dodging horde attacks is very satisfying to me.
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>>551852335
I prefer Martyr. RB benefits a lot from attack speed, which Martyr gives you a bunch of (in addition to what you get from FOTF), and the bonus damage from Martyr does help breakpoints too. Crit isn't that great for RB. That said, if you're not confidenet playing at low HP, just go BP or IJ
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>>551862750
Admit that you are full of shit, retard >>551862292
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>>551862881
I'm not. You can use the i-frames to dodge horde hits while staying in range of the crusher to keep sawing it, I've done it plenty of times before. Dodging does not innately cancel the rev.
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>>551863156
>Dodging does not innately cancel the rev.
Any and all dodging will cancel the sawing action and animation
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>>551863254
Okay, guess I was just hallucinating all the times I've done it then.
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>Hear that infantry autogun is supposed to be the best crit gun for hiver
>The braced aim is super ass and reload takes forever
I want my diamantine back.
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>>551863301
You were propably in septic shock from your infected front-hole
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>>551863380
Rent free
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>>551804884
laspistol is genuinely one of the top 3 best weapons in the game for veteran
>looks cool
>fun to use
>high mobility
>high reload&swap speed
>no recoil
>pinpoint accurate
>probably the best sights in the entire game
>15% base crit chance(which synergizes extremely well)
if you're taking literally every crit buff
>+5% crit chance weapon perk
>desperado weapon blessing(+20% crit on dodge)
>reciprocity(up to +25% crit on dodge)
>deadshot(+25% crit while you ADS)
and you happen to land into a party where both scum and psyker are using the crit aura you can actually reach 100% crit chance
which means shock trooper gives you infinite ammo and infernus sets literally everything you shoot on fire
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>>551861912
>>551862292
>>551862750
>>551863156
Kill yourself immediately you insufferable, lying faggot.
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>infernus
No. You're one of the few who at least has a clue that you build the dodge/crit-related shit on it at least.
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>>551863681
If Plasma gun didnt exist I think Id use it every game. It pops specials, it melts bosses. And Your melee and kraks are from carapace fucks.
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>>551863775
Uh oh. Retard just got xir front-hole clapped
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>>551853165
Ping poxbursters, bombers, flamers, snipers, and bosses. It's especially helpful to use ping if you hear a poxburster behind a horde of fodder enemies as it'll mark it. If the burster's behind elite enemies like crushers you're gonna have to time it, lmao. Honestly, just don't bind your spot key to m1, and try to ping once for movement and scout pings if possible.
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>>551863327
>infantry autogun
>braced aim
Are you sure you didn't get a braced autogun by mistake?
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>rotten armour comes around
>suddenly nearly every smoke vet (who are otherwise majority of vets) are gone for kraks
Nice modifier, Fatshark.
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>>551863942
"Bracing a gun" is literally shooting down the sights. And its Iron sight is awful.
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>>551863861

>>551863468
>>551854935
>>551854667
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>>551864059
Based retard. Someone is asking a legitimate question in the context of the game (there's IAG and BracedAG) and you're being an autistic retard about it.
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>>551864059
Just a weird way to phrase it, especially when there's a real distinction between braced and ADS in this game.
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>>551864093
Your post is an admission
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>>551864156
You're the one obsessed with trannies
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>>551863976
lub me smonks, cucks every ranged enemy, dogs, flamers, even trappers a bit, and dabs on snipers. Still remember the time they didn't use to work on snipers.
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>>551864059
no it isn't, you braindead fucking retard
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>spouts blatant misinformation
>gets proven wrong
>starts deflecting and schizoposting
It's that same faggot that constantly shits up the general around this time. Start noticing, anons.
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>>551864315
Based. I've mentioned this time (SEA hours) multiple times and you get resistance against it. This is a well-known phenomenon on /vg/. Notice, remember, and share.
>>551864261
It's THE nade to pick if you're not against rotten armour and I'm glad majority of Vets in high-havocs pick it. I just wish it didn't obscure teammates in it, can be hard to tell who is where sadly.
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>>551864204
>stop noticing me!
Stop being so blatantly trans
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>>551864315
>everyone itt is the same person!
Uh oh, don't throw a melty now just because you're getting called out for your endless unfunny tranny "jokes"
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>>551864476
In aurics I bring executioner's with spotting to help mark enemies through the smoke, I'd bring it on havoc, but shout's too useful unless the team's stacked with golden toughness and good crowd control.
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>>551864476
You're replying to one of the threadshitters. This guy constantly posts xe/xir/xhe and other tranny shit trying to fish for replies
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>>551864514
Notice how he completely sidesteps the part where he was a lying faggot for several posts and was proven as such.
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>>551864664
>deflecting by trying to make me out as another poster
Oh I'm noooticing
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>>551864626
>the guy who rightfully points out >>551864059 as being a dickhead and the idea of how this thread tanks around this time/zone is...someone who uses "xe/xir/xhe"
On what evidence are they the same person that uses "xe/xir/xhe"? Why do you bring up something entirely irrelevant here?
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>>551864626
Uh oh. Detective retard is on the case!
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>>551863775
Damn, just jumped in to try it out and yep, doesn't actually work. Guess I was just fucking hallucinating idk, questioning everything, sorry senpai. Still luv the evis my beloved, they could never make me hate you...

Completely unrelated, what's the minmax stat and best blessings for relic blade?
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>>551865170
I forgive you, for i am a merciful master
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>>551865094
That post isn't talking about the braced guy
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>there's two shitstorms going on simultaneously
too much for me, bros. have fun
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>>551865334
Ignore him. He's just being a schizo
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>>551844042
>>551844598
so what is a good build??
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>>551865170
>what's the minmax stat and best blessings for relic blade?
76% heat management hits a breakpoint, any more than that does nothing.
The usual dump stat is mobility at 64%.
Power Output seems to add flat damage while powered up, and since you should never be using the thing unpowered anyway, it is indeed viable to dump damage. The damage loss is minimal, and I don't believe it affects any breakpoints in havoc. This is obviously extremely niche and you're likely better off dumping mobility, the gains from having 20% more mobility are very small, and dumping damage is tantrum inducing for many /coopg/ers.
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has anybody tried deadzone: rogue out? would it be worth a spin as a duo?
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>>551865471
Thanks anon, which mark also?
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>>551865670
X for general use as it has easier combos, but apparently the other one is better for stealth. I don't play RB stealth.
Put Cranial Grounding and Rampage on it for damage, the other blessings are pointless, and additional cleave does nothing for it. Carapace, then flak or unyielding, to taste.
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>>551865447
Not quite. I just wasn't aware of the other shitposting going on as I hid it long ago as I already knew it's another izzat episode. Still the point remains where >>551864315 is correct about this general turning shit commonly around this time/zone. And I disagree with >>551864626 about the whole "they're the xe/xir" whatever, as if that's relevant, as it isn't. You'd do well in not being like every other typical 4chinner by just spouting "schizo!" when you don't know what it even means. So, ultimately, the points are true as I've already outlined, and the whole "uhh the truth is actually false because...they post xe/xir!" is irrelevant. So the point still stands, it's just about a different episode of nonsense as we have multiple going on at once.

What a tiresome general. Truly. Not even involved but somehow get involved as I agree with somebody making a factually true statement regarding the time of when this general typically turns to shit.
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>>551865898
>as if that's relevant, as it isn't
And yet it is. I jumped in this general before the hive scum release to join in the hype, and been around since then. There's at least one poster who keeps subtly trying to stir the pot, jumping into arguments with the express intent to antagonise, using language they think might get a rise out of people. Ofc I can't say it's all the one person but it's been going on for thread after thread, consistently with the same keywords, and whenever called out for it they'll either go into deflection mode, calling people schizos or falseflagging, or they'll stop replying only to pop up again the next day, next thread

It is fucking tiresome. Ratfag is repetitive autism but at least mildly amusing, this baitposter/s is something else - insidious, and even when everyone ignores him won't give up the shtick and start acting like a sane person
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>>551865461
NTA but this is more or less my default build
>shovel w/ uncanny strike&skullcrusher + several melee talent nodes, shit lets you melee basically anything but bosses
>buffed up krak grenades delete bosses in seconds anyway
>recon lasgun can be swapped out to whatever you like because it's a generalist build, but I like the recon las, just make sure your gun of choice can kill specialists and gunners
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>>551866976
>lasgun without shock trooper
You should have your skull caved in, you worthless ammo vacuum
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>>551865805
Based, thanks anon.
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>>551867071
You're the kind of guy who shoots poxies and then complains about not having ammo aren't you? I do just fine with only the ammo replenishment from survivalist aura and ammo crates.
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>>551866976
Dump some of those nodes at the top and get max stacks on focus fire and some fucking shock trooper if you're going to use a lasgun
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>>551867254
>I do just fine letting my team shoot the three dozen gunners
>I do just fine not shooting my gun because I'm a melee vet
>those fucking lasgun blessings
Please just kill yourself instead of ever trying to give advice again.
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>>551866976
At least get the 6 stacks if you're going to be playing havoc. 10% attack speed is really not more important than having a 30% teamwide damage amp.
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>>551866976
>that las setup
Which difficulty do you play on? Not hating but it just seems uh, unconventional...
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>>551867849
>havoc
>that build
The only gameplay that build sees in havoc is the minigame of trying to get a full page of DECLINED
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>>551867435
>t. magdumps half his ammo reserve at a single bomber and then cries about being out of ammo
dumb hardstuckie
try actually aiming next time
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>>551866763
They are several different people, some copy other shitposters and they often fight eachother
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Havocsissies belong in cute dresses
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>>551867849
How often do you actually even reach the full 6 stacks? Because in my experience there's always something to tag before it even reaches 4.
>>551867913
anything up to h40, though I dislike havoc specifically because of cunts like this >>551867963 who think you can't handle it without being a complete metasissy
I mean sure it's not what most people use but I'm not most people
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>>551868360
Fair, and no doubt the post right below yours is one of them
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>>551868668
>replying to the retard
He's just having a tantrum why would you even bother.
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>>551868668
Man, you REALLY need attention right now
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day 7 I am still hardstuck inside anon's mom
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>>551866976
holy fucking shit what kind of retarded ass build is this? i can understand making a few mistakes but this is so obviously retarded that i refuse to believe that anyone who isn't of the same color and smell as shit would come up with this
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>>551868668
>I dislike havoc specifically because of cunts like this
Traumatized by being declined too much, you coddled, entitled retard? I don't know everyone that applies to my games, so I have to predict how they're going to play by how their build is set up. Your build is an exercise in free will. If you use your free will to be a retard, I must assume that your gameplay reflects that. Meleesissy vets belong in the wood chipper.
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>>551868963
damn dude go easy on him
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>>551868953
>>551868963
>>551869012
metasissy meltdown
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>>551869143
Neutral 3rd party observer here. The metachads owned his brown ass
They got his brown ass out in the fields picking cotton for they massa
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>>551868963
Melee vet is perfectly viable in havoc. Only a hardstuckie thinks they are useless and declines them since they don't know.
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>havoc sissies can't even function without a big strong man watching their back and holding their hands so they can play the game crossdress correction is needed
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>>551869281
It's true that melee vet is viable in havoc because the damage output is actually better than zealots.
But none of your teammates are going to be shooting things, so your job as veteran is to shoot.
Everyone that plays havoc knows this. Bringing a dedicated ranged vet alongside a dedicated melee vet obviously works. Making your feed-the-scum-more-grenades vet a melee vet is also fine when the scum takes over the role of shooting things.

But I need my vet to shoot so you get DECLINED
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Darktide bringing in this retard practically killed the general.
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>>551869393
>But I need my vet to shoot
Skill issue. Only a shitter needs people to clear trash shooters and gunners for them.
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>>551869618
>only a shitter needs the 17 gunners on the balcony to die
>dude just teleport there what are you doing
Melee vets are literal, unironic sub-humans, aren't they?
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I'm not sure who is trolling who anymore but I wish this general didn't fall into the trap of post irony
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>>551869541
zoomer cattle audience, please understand
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>>551870059
The introduction of havoc, and the existence of True Survivor, terminally mindbroke all the shit players between the scary red DECLINED text and their inability to cope with the festering ego-injury that is their inability to get True Survivor.
Watch all the (You)s this post will get, each one proving it correct.
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>>551869358
You really need practise because you're really bad at this
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>>551869792
>>only a shitter needs the 17 gunners on the balcony to die
If you were a good player you would be doing it yourself instead of relying on others, shitter.
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>>551870310
Even this (you)?
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>>551870342
>If you were a good player
He would be playing ranged vet
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I don't even play the game once I reach havoc 40. I do host them just so I can decline every single one who tries to join regardless of class or build. Sometimes I will leave them on hold indefinitely so they think there's a chance of them being accepted.
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>>551870484
>I don't even play the game
The only true part of this post
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Is he still reeling from being made fun of for being a handlet or did something else set him off this time?
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>>551870681
>did something else set him off this time?
Someone mentioned havoc. You know how it goes.
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>>551870484
>I don't even play the game
90% of this general
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>>551870681
Link his post directly, coward
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>Giving (You)s to someone beneath me.
No.
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>>551871103
He's above you. Just scroll up
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>>551785745
verm, always has been always will be
>much more polished, gets way more content and no faggot report system
>gets 1 maps for every 3 that verm gets, only get cosmetics for updates months on end, get GAME BANNED for calling someone a nigger
not even close
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>>551870059
Blame havoc. I called it a shit addition on day 1, and I was right.
Got my TS and all other penances, can't say there is anything interesting or worthwhile within it. It's basically a melee only maelstrom but 10x harder.

It has less maps than the base mode, less variety of builds than the basemode due to the difficulty spike, the modifiers it has range anywhere from boring to cance, and top it all off it has no interesting rewards or incentives to play it.
It just gives you crafting mats and ordo dockets, which are useless since by the time of running havoc you are expected to have maxed out gear that is fully upgraded.
Another idiotic thing is the party finder, it's not great and having waste time applying to teams which can take up to 10 minutes or even more in the worst cases isn't fun.

I wish the devs had never made havoc and instead actually focused on making maps for the base game and then made auric damnation/auric maelstrom more difficult.
Over all 4/10 gamemode, would not recommend.
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>>551870059
Don't blame havoc, this place was a shithole long before then and any claims to the contrary are just revisionism.
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>>551871301
>get GAME BANNED for calling someone a nigger
Then don't call someone a nigger. Simple as that.
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Do (you) ACCEPT or do (you) DECLINE melee scummers?
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Who wants to be my havoc boyfriend
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>>551871769
needle pistol right? what's you taking for melee weapon?
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>>551871769
I prefer crate support or gun scum, but melee scum is also good and you have the mandatory skill, so sure why not
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>>551871769
>not skipping keystones for more passives
Confirmed for shitter without any self confidience
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>>551872031
Yeah, needler mk6 and shivs mk1.
>>551872308
But why? What could possibly give me more mileage than 30% ability regen and 15% crit + tdr?
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>>551872415
>But why?
e-penis
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>>551866976
>lasgun w/o the free lasgun ammo shit
Fuck me this general.
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>>551872995
already addressed
I'm not an ammo hog even if I shoot every specialist as soon as they show their pretty face
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>NOO SHITTER YOU HAVE TO HELP MII
>I CANNOT SURVIVE ON MY OWN
>SHITTER? WHERE ARE YOU SHITTER!
>DON'T YOU KNOW I AM LE TRUE SURVIVOR?
>HELP MII!
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>>551874710
mindbroken
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>>551874710
I look like this
I say this
I do this
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Do you guys only play darktide?
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>>551874710
This post is extremely low quality
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>>551874710
Happens more often than I'd like to admit, especially when playing with very slow assholes and me just checking ahead...
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>>551874810
we remember what happened when hive scum came out
we had "true survivors" hugging the floor and throwing bitchfits about how "weak" the class is
likely the same shitters got carried for the title, because as soon as you post something slightly off-meta they also throw a bitchfit
whyzzit that when I play rampage scum I'm the last man standing and have to clutch&carry all the other retards
it's a matter of good fundamentals, once you got that, you don't need anything else
>t. 1000 hours in the game
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>>551875509
>true survivor
>carried
Elucidate me on what exploit they supposedly used, because I'm not aware of the title being easily carriable. Sounds to me like you're jealous for not having it, in which case, how come you don't, if it's so easy to get?
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>>551875509
>I'm the last man standing
Because you run from the danger while your team does the work
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>>551875664
in the darktide discord you can literally just ask for some of the experienced players to carry you
I'm banned from there though because I keep making rude and racist comments
and I'm only mad about not having it because it's one of the few penances I don't have, and it's borderline impossible to get with pubbies since it requires the entire team to not go down
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Pubbing Havok is pretty bad since the last update.
I even pubbed my H40 cheevo ages ago yet can barely complete 20-30 bracket. Is it rotten armour filtering my groups or something.
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>>551875795
Never used Rampage have you? The only way you can survive while using it is by being in melee all the time - the only reason you'd ever run out of danger is during the 7 second debuff where you take 25% more damage and deplete your stamina.
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>>551875880
So that's what this is about. You're a shitty little browngroid who's lashing out because the meanies at the discord won't carry you
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>>551876064
If you're going ham with the rampage but you're team is still going down because the enemies aren't dying then you're beyond useless
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>>551875880
>tries to call others bad when he can't do the bare minimum
>assuming discord premades are the only way to get it
>implying it can't be done in pubs
You are fucking pathetic. I spit on you.
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>>551876065
I mean not really? I'm shitting on you because metasissies like you can't even comprehend being good enough at the game to go through h40 without relying on the builds given to you by your e-boyfriends.
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>BTL doesn't apply skullcrusher onto enemies if you hit them with it
Well, there goes my idea.
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>>551876704
See this right here?
You best get used to it, bub.
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>>551876038
In the high 20s and low 30s, it's usually the twins that filter the groups I've been in.
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>>551876704
Weird thing to say when you just admitted that you haven't cleared havoc 40 with or without a meta build
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Are modifiers weighted?
It feels like an intern is incredibly pissy over speedrunning players and i have not had a single assignment in the past 15 assignments played without hexbound rituals, which wouldn't be annoying if they weren't so buggy
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>>551877064
the fuck are you talking about? I've cleared h40 a whole lot of times
but I play with pubbies and someone always goes down, it seems
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>>551874710
the post that broke the tranny survivor
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>>551877254
They survived being exposed to your tranny-coded posts
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>>551874710
how did you get a picture of me???
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>>551877426
my cousin Rajeet shared it with me on the family whatsapp
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>>551871769
If i want a melee rapist, I just play psyker desu
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>>551788304
whats poxbreaker
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>>551878062
Title for killing 1,000,000 enemies.
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>>551878046
>melee psyker
>melee vet
>ranged arbi
>ranged ogryn
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>>551875880
kinda based doe
>>551871361
true
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>>551878129
well thats pretty meh
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>>551871301
>get GAME BANNED for calling someone a nigger
… is that not something that happens in ratclick too?
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>>551870116
Even though we’re all uncs
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Why not put your money where your mouth is? I played with anon from this general without either of us ever going down. On every class and a lot of different builds. Methinks you're the actual shitter.
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>>551878829
omg you guys are so cooooool!
please carry me i want that fancy true survivor!
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>>551878943
lets face it
you ain't carrying anyone because you're a shitter
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>>551878829
>Methinks
Meth Inks would be a great name for a sleazy tattoo parlor
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>>551858934
>the characters are way more likeable and compelling
If you ignore the flanderization of the first game maybe
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>>551860892
>he has access to every single goddamn discipline with gamma tier power level
I would say he’s more Delta but you could argue it has to do with him being unsanctioned depending on the personality. He doesn’t quite do every discipline but still a pretty good asset.
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>>551865898
>Markus
Wait then who’s the one on the left
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>>551869278
jej
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>>551866763
>Ratfag is repetitive autism but at least mildly amusing, this baitposter/s is something else
probably the same person honestly
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>>551874710
Sauce on this image? Please?
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>wake up
>check this general almost sure there’s another argument that’s taken place because of the time
>there is
Funny stuff.
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>>551878943
Yeah this except completely unironically (and for real)
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>>551815180
I didn't bother with it at all. Should have added something cool instead of more rejects
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>>551879396
soooo true! thats why i need you to pick me up and carry me with your big arms and stuff
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Xer has lost xir mind
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>>551881030
>>551879396
>>551878943
i like it when you post cute girls like this
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Can't you guys stop bickering over the smallest shit for at least 5 minutes?
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>>551865170
you might be conflating with at launch where you couldnt cancel the rev
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>>551833774
from their dna, its not semen dummy
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>>551879451
Is it actually confirmed any of the personalities are unsanctioned? Because a) unsanctioned psykers usually get chucked on a Black Ship ASAP and b) being able to safely channel magic flame for the entire duration of a mission is some high tier sanctioned psyker bs.
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>>551880069
The thought has crossed my mind, with the way both relentlessly post the same shit even when nobody interacts.
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is it normal for no one to join maelstrom missions? i'm new and just trying to run one on diff 4 to get the fucking notification off my screen but i only ever get bots.
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>>551882386
one of the psyker's backgrounds is literally being on the black ships
not that the character backgrounds matter in-game though
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>>551878816
doubt it, look at >>551804801
literally pic related
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>>551882525
I'll join you if you post fatshark friend code
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>>551882620
That doesn't necessarily mean they're unsanctioned though. Is there any solid confirmation?
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>>551882525
probably a network error or something
those happen a lot in this jank-ass game
I haven't played anything below auric in a long time but when I was leveling up my hive scum there were plenty of people around in the lower difficulties
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>>551882525
>diff 4
Depending on location, playing on certain difficulties can screw you up. I'm Strayan, and at off-peak times it can be real hard getting people to join.
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>>551860892
Psykers in darktide are at best Iota to Zeta level in terms of psychic power.
Many people just don't understand that psychic powers in 40k, yes even low level ones, are extremely powerful and dangerous. It's the reason why psykers are so mistrusted by regular humans.
Once you get into Gamma level you start getting psykers that can turn you into meat slush just by mildly waving their hand.

And once you get into Alpha level psykers, they are planet killing threats. An Alpha or Beta level psykers are so powerful that they can mind control and puppet every single person on a planet all at the same time.
They can also crack Emperor class titans in half by snap of their fingers, move mountains or open warp portals and summon greater daemons without effort.
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>>551882797
there's no explicit confirmation but one of the psyker personalities goes
>FUCK YOU CORPSE GOD
>AND FUCK YOUR ENTIRE IMPERIUM
like half the time so I doubt he's sanctioned, especially since he was recruited from a prison to begin with
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>>551883029
No bro you don't understand, at level Level 30 you join the warband and are totally sanctioned. Totally. That was just the warp. You controlled it, right? Yeah, just the warp.
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>>551882957
i'm also in australia and i've seen a ton of level 30's in diff 3 let alone 4 maelstrom.
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>>551883145
>straya
You guys figure out how to fix this mess yet?
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Quickly anon! The lvl 70 smite psyker with 3 wounds is on the ground! You gotta revive him or the grimoire he picked up will be lost forever!
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>>551883405
THROWING KRAK
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>>551883354
Bit'a duck tape will fix her right up. Spray some expandy in there too fer a job well done, shelby.
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>>551883405
>undo my belt
>pull down my pants and underwear
>assume a comfortable squatting positing
>defecate on psyker while he is still alive
>use his robes as a makeshift toilet paper
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>>551883405
I'll just revive him. Not that hard desu.
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>>551876852
I think ogryn charge does tho. weird inconsistency
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>>551883405
and lemme guess, he's on the ground because he blew himself up?
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>Psyker: Neil, NEIL!
Is beloved's name Neil?
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>havoc 30
>goes down the very first point of no return
>2 rituals one which my dummy teammate activated, twins, and one plague ogryn all at the same time
is this normal???
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>>551883145
There's plenty of folk in Heresy, all the level 30+s who aren't good at vidya stay at that level. Damnation is the one where it can be tricky to find people.
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>>551882963
>It's the reason why psykers are so mistrusted by regular humans
It's not. Psyker powers can get real weak right down to the level of party tricks, the reason psykers are mistrusted is because if unsanctioned they can attempt to cast a cantrip, perils and suddenly daemons.
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>>551883872
Yeah, it is odd. I guess it has something to do code jank since with ogryn charge you're actually "hitting" the enemies, since you can apply bleed to them.
While in you use BTL you coun't as blocking so you technically aren't hitting enemies.
But it gets weirder because I tried Thunderous on the crusher maul as well, and that seems to be applied on BTL hit. But it is only the 4 stacks.
So it is inconsistent even in that regard.
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>>551884143
Unlucky on the double rituals but yes. As long as you don't activate them you have 5ish minutes, plenty of time to lure Rinda into an isolated corner and [redacted] her.
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>>551883405
he is the deadest motherfucker on the planet
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>>551884182
so, 80% of the countries playerbase is in heresy then. i play multiplayer games exclusively while inebriated. like right now. and i never struggle to rise to the highest ranks of any given game. we are like NA in that regard, sadly. just shit at games. and in many other regards too.
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>>551884107
I'm wondering what the hell a "quail insect" is
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>>551884364
Yes, I know that.
But people still also mistrust them because they can be very dangerous even without the whole "collapsing into a warp rift" issue.
Psychic powers and how the Assignment works is basically exponential.

Even when a person hits "Omicron" level on the Assignment scale, they are classified as psykers, they still might go through their entire life without realizing that they have psychic powers. And those are specifically the party tricks you talk about.
Gamma level psykers are the "I'm going to turn your entire squad's bodies inside out with a snap of fingers", it's clearly not what Darktide psykers are.
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>>551884947
Darktide Psykers are definitely people who discovered they have these abilities, were probably unsactioned, and got scooped up because they were being too stupid and got caught.
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Anyone up for havoc? my current mission is 26 but i'd preferably play as high as possible
can play anything except ogryn
friendcode: 4944749582
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>>551885331
what region
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>>551885362
E with the U
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>>551885021
Yes, meaning they are around Iota or Zeta level in power. It still takes them a lot of effort based on the voicelines and seeing the peril system, you as a psyker has to constantly juggle the peril at a manageable level so you don't explode.
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>>551885475
There is that niche talent that lets you safely explode near elites and specials, but I doubt its usefulness.
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>>551884870
Yeah, somewhere around that figure. It honestly astounds me how shit most kanga bangers are at video games, like across the board there's just this general disinterest in getting better, learning more in depth mechanics etc. The craziest I used to see was in DBD, I'd run into a lot of Asians playing that game past Aus peak hours and they'd perform so much better, even despite the fact we couldn't communicate.
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>>551885421
I'm still kind of on that holiday hangover
You mind if add you anyway?
we can play together some other time
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>>551885712
of course anon, we can play another time, do take care of yourself
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Fatshark friend code guide so simple even a /coopg/er can understand it
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>>551886762
High effort shitpost
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>>551887723
Not a shitpost. This could save someone's life
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Holy FUCK what a meme
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>>551888479
>time until assignment reset: 8 hours
nani?!
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>>551885712
>>551885853
post code tomorrow
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>>551886762
Neat, thanks =)
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Darktide newfag here, any noob traps I should avoid or should I just b myself until max level while doing the story?
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>>551890943
You can't avoid having to learn to stay safe in melee
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>>551884368
BTL is all kinds of fucked up. It's technically a staggering melee attack (but not a weapon attack???), so it triggers shit like Force of Will on every individual poxer you charge through, giving you full toughness without needing the CfC node, and I believe it also fully triggers Forceful and other talents that trigger off stagger. But it doesn't trigger a lot of weapon blessings.
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>>551890943
Never trust party members in not fucking up somehow
if weapon can't hit across map, it's a bad wepon, because you can never trust party to deal with snipers
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>>551890943
Avoid gun tunnel vision, remain aware of your surroundings and accept that you must learn the melee
Avoid noob crutches that build bad habits. Common examples include psyker smite (Palpatine lightning) and arbitrator as a class (because it's too fucking tanky and easy and plays itself up to the highest difficulty lol).
Avoid using the infantry lasgun, vigilant autoguns, heavy sword, ... I think that's all of the truly terrible weapons.
When leveling, most classes benefit a lot from pathing downwards, rather than taking a lot of nodes near the top. Your upgraded abilities are strong. Psyker especially hugely benefits from taking assail, which just fucking deletes the entire lower difficulties in a single button press.
Don't be discouraged by low level performance, many classes want at least 20 levels to come into their own.
Don't be semitic with your resources. You're trying to have fun NOW, and you will eventually git gud enough to play difficulties where you get a decent payout.
Ask questions here.
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>still playing havok
>On this, the Twenty-Ninth Day of December, in the Year of Our Most Perplexing Yet Indubitably Eventful Lord, Two Thousand and Twenty-Five
Lmao.
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>>551891742
It's more fun than snorics althoughbeit desuwa =w=
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>>551863327
It feels bad but it gives me higher damage numbers in scoreboard than any other option. I can't explain it.
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>>551891742
>havok
havoque*
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>>551892252
zip it, Jean-Boubakar
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>havoc 40
did the inferno staff fall off or something? i have bubble shield and i always feel like im doing good with damage and and surviving and helping teammates and shit but then at the end i get such underwhelming damage numbers, i don't remember it was like this but then again maybe rotten armour devalues it?
*gasp* was i bad all along?!
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>>551891603
the agony of being zealot and learning the knife throw arc well enough to hit things 40 meters away because the 3 veterans with you just refused to kill it
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>>551884143
>is this normal
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8k8z3NeII
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>>551892457
mommy
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>>551892356
>completely unreadable scoreboard
Holy fuck please do yourself and everyone in this general a favor and install the mod that unfucks the retarded stoner's abomination.
>underwhelming damage numbers
Players have learned how to deal with rotten armor, by nuking them with kraks, or melting them with AIDS, which no longer lets your DoT rack up huge numbers.
Additionally, you're "supposed to" use shriek. No, don't listen to all the bubbleslave tards who couldn't reach havoc 40 even if you held a gun to their dick. Shriek is DPS king. Bubble is an indirect contract of trusting your team to deal the damage for you.
I don't know what your lineup was, but if you didn't have a zealot to provide brittleness with flamer, you were also lacking a lot of damage against armored enemies.
I don't know what your build looks like, but if you aren't critmaxxed, you're losing out on a lot of DPS because a crit applies an extra DoT stack.
You might not be abusing your melee weapon and related exploits. The regular force swords have Uncanny Strike and a strength blessing on elite kill, you can abuse both with DoTs. It's a little weird and finicky and I don't know exactly how to do it correctly because I don't play psyker enough, but the absolute top performers I've seen all had in common that they used force swords with those two blessings. They also, predictably, used shriek.
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How far Atoma is from becoming a deamon world?
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>>551892714
pretty fucking far
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>>551889409
my steam name is lashedzebra2222
I'm not up for it right now but we'll see if the loudmouths in this thread are really up to the task once I've sobered up
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>>551892714
Very far
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>>551866976
Better, but not taking toughness recovery on focus target is criminal
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>>551892673
>mod
ok which one though
>bubble shield
yeaaa i get what you mean but in all honesty i only use it to force my amoebas teammates to listen, ive noticed that even if i say back up they dont listen, but they sure do love standing in shields so its a way to shephard them per se, ill give venting shriek a go i guess
>build
i appreciate the extensive reply, and since you're mentioning my build i figured ill reply with it if you wanna go so far as to look at it
i was gonna switch from thrust sword to force one so might as well now anyways i just dont fucking want to raise mastery but whatever
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So why peril nexus instead of brittle flames?
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>>551893061
get your own toughness replenishment you fucking nigger
jeez I'm already bringing shout
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Fuck this shit, I'm bussin out the Ogryn easy mode for these havoc pub shitters.
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>>551869281
Melee vet is viable, just like melee psyker is viable. Then suddenly nobody shoots specialists and you die.
I wonder how come people still don't realize this game is about aura stacking. You bring classes for auras and then you have to build them into roles that they can be good at AND which are mandatory, like marksman and horde clear.
You can bring 2 vets, one melee vet and one marksman. But then you don't have zealot's auras, or psyker's infinite cleave, or ogryn/arbites crowd control.
Arguably you can bring a scum to kill specialists and make a melee vet kill snipers. But this requires proper planning.
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>>551871769
no bellows, declined
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>>551893249
>>mod
>ok which one though
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/514
This one. Very TMI, but you can just turn most of this shit off, which I suggest you do. Just fire up the meat grinder and mess around with the options.
>i only use it to force my amoebas teammates to listen
Shouldn't be a problem in havoc 40. It's difficult to pay attention to pings in the chaos sometimes. Use your mic, and speak loud and clear. Double check that it's configured correctly. A lot of retards I see online have a terribly set up mic and would benefit massively from tweaking the gain.
>build
Looks completely cookie cutter, would accept into my 40 without sparing a second thought. You likely have a better understanding of playing psyker in 40 than I do, so I trust you have it figured out. I can only report what I've seen, and my most successful runs had psykers dealing gorillions of damage with shriek. Bubble is wonderful too, but it's a safety measure and doesn't let you pass the DPS checks that are rotten armor. You're putting more pressure on your vet that way.
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>>551892714
not about to become one as long as I'm there
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chaos cultist kruber
skeleton bardin
darkerer elf kerillian
vampire saltz
nudist sienna
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>>551892356
You don't have penetrating flame, wtf did you expect
Probably no penetration of the soul either, you are getting carried
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>mods to fix mods
jeez, great game
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>>551892673
>I don't know what your build looks like, but if you aren't critmaxxed, you're losing out on a lot of DPS because a crit applies an extra DoT stack.
everything else is correct except for this retarded take
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>>551893527
>I wonder how come people still don't realize
Dunning Kruger, egotism, entitlement, lack of reflection, lack of awareness, lack of critical thinking and instead relying on spoon feeding, cope, etc.
You see plenty of anons here that will blame anyone and anything but themselves for why they can't get True Survivor, then in the same breath shame those who aggressively filter out shitters because they need to be le carried. They don't realize that they're the ones that are being carried by those dumb enough or gracious enough to accept their utter dogshit builds, not just because their builds are trash, but because the act of bringing such a build also proves they are trash as players.
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>>551893283
>trusting your retards to not die to a wet fart
amateur
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>>551894289
This is literally objectively true and extremely practical because reaching max stacks quicker yields more DPS more quickly. The curve becomes steeper. Every psyker that deals fuckloads of damage is completely maximizing crit, some even abandon the cooldown aura (which I don't personally like, but it works).
Stop trying to speak with confidence about things that you don't understand, stucklet.
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>>551894185
>penetrating flame
okay what do i change it with then smartass
>no penetration of the soul either
if you took just a second to look at the replies you'd see that i have it, stop trying to be cringe
>carried
really doubt it when i often end up the one reviving everyone, but i like the thought of being carried :3
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>>551894509
>penetrating flame
Brittleness isn't your job, but if you're desperate for damage against armor, ditch the crit blessing.
You ideally should instead have a zealot do that for you, but many zealots are fucking retarded so I understand that this isn't always realistic.
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>>551893249
no kinetic flayer
wildfire
no tdr
sanctuary
kinetic deflection plus tax node on a ranged build
no in fire reborn in inferno build
5/10 I got my build from gameslantern
no empyric resolve combined with the rest of the tree indicating you're clueless most likely also means you are spending too much time quelling and blocking and not enough time firing your staff
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>>551894948
>kinetic deflection plus tax node on a ranged build
>spending too much time quelling
You are so fucking retarded you are beyond saving
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>>551894429
>Stop trying to speak with confidence about things that you don't understand
I wish you did
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>>551895147
Go bait on >>>/b/ instead of shitting up the thread with obvious attempts at misinformation, you fucking faggot.
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>>551895112
take a stamina curio, or git gud, idk
>>551894509
you don't need warp nexus
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After playing VT2 again after a while, shit whoever they got doing animations on DT fucking nailed it man
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Why does everyone call eachother stuckies if everyone here is H40?
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>>551895423
nobody here is h40, it's all larp
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>>551893249
Why would use wildfire with a flame staff? Empyric shock is right there and it stacks multiplicatively with everything, including itself.
>kinetic deflection
Tell me honestly, how often do you block?
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>>551893267
brittle flames is overrated. It takes a while to get all 20 stacks, which caps out at only 20%. Combined with the increased crusher health pool it's just not very impressive. Your melee is way better. A vet and ogryn or arbi can usually manage them just fine anyway.
Meanwhile Crit lets you stack soulblaze faster on everything.
But the most important blessing is always Blaze Away.
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>>551895503
My assignment is 40 althoughbeit =w=
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>>551895423
because some poor lolcalf might dox themselves to prove their rank, duh
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>>551895589
>Tell me honestly, how often do you block?
NTA but Psyker is one of the best classes in the game for reviving bar none because of this node
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>>551895423
>everyone here is H40
Easily proven false by just playing with /coopg/ers. Not that I'd judge. If you don't want to play havoc, or lose interest, that's fine. But trying to speak with authority on it when you couldn't even make it past the h30 hurdle is fucking retarded.
>>551895589
>Tell me honestly, how often do you block?
NTA but the question should be
>how often do you save runs by guaranteeing a revive?
because that's what you use it for in conjunction with bubble.
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>>551893267
Neither. If you want rending you switch to your melee.
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>>551894429
Isn't this sort of a non-realistic way of maximizing damage?
That's kind of a retarded way to put it but I'll try to explain what I'm thinking. Like realistically, if you need to be killing something with dots faster to maximize damage, why is that? It's because someone else kills it otherwise, right? Because otherwise it wouldn't matter if the flamestaff took an extra second or whatever to finish killing that area of enemies. They die more slowly sure but they burn out anyway.
I'm sure there's situations where the crit helps you hit the kill treshold (or just more significantly speeds up the kill to the point it's more practical) but if you're overinvesting in this aren't you just gearing towards killstealing more than anything else?
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>>551895770
>neither
HUH???
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what the devils?
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>>551893267
because retards think they got a dedicated zealot bitch with infinite ammo on their flamer to apply 20% brittleness for them (they don't)
It's also a separate source of brittleness and stacks with 40% brittleness from other sources, which they easily could not know
There's also a funny crit chance on a dot build forced meme going on, which I don't think took traction anywhere outside this place but people still take crit blessing because they think zealots will apply brittleness for them. You should still take mettle though, it's cheap.
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>>551894369
>can't hold your own even with gold toughness
well I guess it's a wipe then
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>>551895827
You're overthinking.
It's fucking rotten armor in havoc 40. Enemy density is effectively "yes, fuck you" and all of them have a billion HP. There is no such thing as killing them too quickly or killstealing. Shit needs to die yesterday.
If you wanted to argue replacing the crit blessing for brittleness, I'd give you that, but ideally a zealot should be doing that instead.
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>>551895589
i think i failed to mention that im not really a psyker main, anyways
>wildfire
i was really doubting wildifire's efficiency but i was lazy to edit around so ill switch that away for empyric shock
>in fire reborn
good point was thinking the other one is better since it works when any teammate gets a kill but whatever
>kinetic deflection
now this im sorry but i had wayyy too many good experiences playing with it considering the amount of times i have to get out of horrible situations because of shitty teammates not backing up when needed, i dont block as much as you might think but when its only me and one guy and i have all the aggro it works flawlessly, not really arguing whether or not its optimal but for me personally it feels good, maybe ill switch it for something else another time but for now its staying
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>>551895962
You know like the one that just ended and gave you a whopping 500 aquilas
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>>551893249
This is close to meta.
wildfire is a trap, get empyric shock
try to get perfect timing, it's +15% damage
kinetic flayer is optional
kinetic deflection is optional, but a very good safety node.
The most retarded part of this playerbase is the amount of people who think their specific build is objectively the correct way to play.
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>>551895919
Brainfart, disregard my post.
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>>551893527
>this game is about aura stacking
Newbie here, does this mean I should make a build for each aura? I just started dipping my toe into Heresy missions, so I know I'm a ways off, but I like being prepared. How do most people organize their saved builds?
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>>551896118
Don't be sorry. It's good. Some anons like to flex their e-peen by advocating zero safety nets.
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>>551895970
You don't play zealot, and/or don't play with good zealots, and it shows.
Puffing on enemies until they reach max brittleness stacks doesn't take long, and thus doesn't take much ammo. A good zealot should always be doing that when a horde gets dense, as meleeing becomes effectively pointless in that situation anyway.
You are correct in your claim that they don't, but that's because most zealots are retards and get carried to 40 because they're just the token chorus bitch.
>There's also a funny crit chance on a dot build forced meme going on
It's not a forced meme, it is literally the way to maximize DPS on psyker, and virtually every psyker that gets big fat scoreboard numbers does this.
Do you even play havoc or are you just izzat farming?
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>>551895827
Realistically you lose stacks when switching to your melee or quelling. You should focus on firing as much as possible, unless the only enemies you face are crushers. Which is why crit chance is only required to proc mettle and you don't need lots of it, you get enough critchance from the perk and souldrinker.
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>>551896313
you can easily change your aura in the pre-mission lobby if you want to. No need to make new loadouts for it
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>>551896313
You can switch auras in lobby since the last update
Open your tree, uncheck the aura you have and pick the one you want
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>>551896408
are you our local Fan the flames advocate?
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>>551896528
Only if you have the appropriate mod that allows you to do so*
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>>551896408
If I open party finder right now 4 out of 5 zealots won't even have flamer equipped
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>>551896716
Are you the fucking retard who interprets applying brittleness on enemies as spamming the slow-ass primary, because you can't wrap your 70 IQ brain around the idea of using the secondary for only 2 seconds instead of dumping the entire tank?
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>>551896381
thanksies, its really fun just tanking everything for once in havoc, and not gonna start talking about how many revives i did because of it
>>551896146
i appreciate your input, ill go see how to time empyric shock in meat grinder, also is kinetic flayer decent? moreso considering it can only happen once every 12 seconds and havoc 40 kinda throws an absurd amount of, well, everything
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>>551896908
no that's not me. I was literally just asking.
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>>551896868
>most zealots are retards
Yes, 4/5 qualifies as "most". Probably a decent number of those that do bring flamer that don't take brittleness either.
Zealot is the hardest class to find an actually good player for.
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>replay vet
>somehow missed the +10% rending on damage
huh
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>>551897116
>+10% rending on weapons*
Still. Huh.
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>>551896831
no, it's literally in the game. Looks like you forgot to read the patch notes.
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>>551896593
Thanks; I've never used Party Finder or coordinated at all, just been queuing up my story missions or playing Quickplay.
Sometimes the (probably bad) skilltree I've chosen doesn't give me access to every Aura, which is why I asked. Again, though, I've just been filling Penance progress bars getting used to all the grenades, abilities, keystones, and weapons, so I'm all over the place.
Maybe I'm overthinking it.
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Are plasma gunners the new enemy?
Don't remember facing them ever last year
Also, they felt like weaker sniper? What's the point?
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>>551897695
They inflict a debuff that cripples toughness generation.
They also used to be able to spawn in clowncar waves, pre-charge their gun, and round the corner instagibbing you from full health before you had any chance of reacting, in havoc. Haven't seen that in a hot minute though so I assume that no longer happens.
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>>551897695
They could rapidfire through walls on release
Now they're just a flavor of shotgunner
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>>551897695
yes
the point is that they shoot at you. They sort of bridge the gap between gunners and snipers.
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>>551897695
they're basically ranged maulers
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>>551896408
>most zealots are retards and get carried to 40 because they're just the token chorus bitch.
What are you then?
The token chorus + flamer bitch?
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>>551898041
>What are you then?
The guy that hits DECLINE on your application.
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>>551896059
>It's fucking rotten armor in havoc 40. Enemy density is effectively "yes, fuck you" and all of them have a billion HP. There is no such thing as killing them too quickly or killstealing. Shit needs to die yesterday.
But those things die so long you build max stacks on them consistently regardless, right? Does hitting the max stacks slightly faster really help that much? You arent limited by how fast you kill shit because your AoE has infinite cleave
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>>551898104
>yes but i don't want to admit it
Ok :)
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>>551898137
Install a mod that tracks burn stacks and see how long it takes to reach the max. It's actually kind of disturbing. You will understand when you do.
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>>551898198
I dunno anon, seems to me like you're the one who needs carrying since you can't seem to reach 40 on your own assignment you fucking leech.
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Specialists vs Elites? Is it Ranged vs Melee?
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Every single pub havoc group is getting destroyed on first boss wave, am I the problem?
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>>551898624
If this is a really clumsy way of asking for clarification on what specialists and elites even are, look here
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies
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>>551898624
Specialists are disablers or otherwise unique enemies that attack in a way that aren't just gun mob and melee mob.(bombers, flamers, netters, dogs, snipers, mutants, and pox bursters)
Elites are just upgraded variants of the melee or gun mooks.
Ragers, scab/dreg gunners are elites.
Crushers and reapers are also elites.
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>>551898876
Monster spam and you didn't have krak grenades? Your fault.
Ogryn and didn't have Skullcrusher? Your fault.
Scum and didn't have launcher? Your fault.
Zealot? Your fault no matter what lol.
I think psyker is the only one with an excuse.
This is hyperbole but also kind of isn't. To be fair, if you're in the shitter trench, it's still your fault because you aren't hosting with inspect mods and aggressively filtering out obvious retards, probably.
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>>551899134
Wait, there a scum players who unironically pick launcher?
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>>551899609
Never seen launcher in rotten armor? It just fucking kills everything lmao. Completely solves the problem of being run down by a massive horde, by erasing the horde. Chem nades are extremely strong too, but they are useless in emergencies.
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>>551898876
Depends
What rank, are you the host. And if so, then are you filtering as aggressively as you should?
If you're pubbing random lobbies while not the host, then it unironically might be a comp issue since a lot of pugs are retards that will just click accept on any class without looking at them or thinking too hard about what makes sense.
20-29 is unironically harder than 30-40 even though it is statistically easier, purely out of the fact that havoc is predetermined by teammates as it is a game mode that you cannot (as easily) solo carry. 20-29 is a paradox in which the game that is supposed to be much easier at that range, is significantly harder because you are playing with predominantly players that are still playing the game mode like auric instead of staying together and planning around modifiers, or simply not understanding mechanics or roles.
I never join pubs until I'm done doing my own assignment once I learned how to aggressively filter retards out.
One misconception about filtering retards is not that the build has to be meta, but it just has to make sense, the items and the talents have to tell me that the player understands what he is doing, isn't falling for obvious noob traps (confident strike on ogryn club lmao)
Don't feel bad about declining players if they aren't providing utility or providing something you're looking for.
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can someone with a brain explain to me how fatshark broke dodging? I know it has to do with hive scum's 50% dodge duration talent, so does everyone just have 50% dodge duration against bullets right now and for hive scum it's just acting as normal?
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>>551899609
Are you one of those people who formed (was fed) their opinion the first week the class dropped and never paid attention post-balance changes?
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there's not a single space maker or lineholder in havoc, all greed damage dealing faggots
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>3 Lts and a chaos spawn on H26
uhh excuse me i don't even think i got this shit on my H40 months ago
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>>551901472
Curious how you're the only constant, yet there still only are "greed damage dealing faggots".
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>>551901472
Because if you don't have 4 people focused entirely on damage dealing you get raped by the twins and two plague ogryns that show up around every corner.
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>>551839819
hello ??
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>>551901472
>>551902379
>>551902924
A skullcrusher ogryn increases your damage and frontlines
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>>551896381
trvth
>>551896007
pic is literally me
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>>551881872
I’m joking anon (but it is slightly misleading)
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>>551894062
it would be chaos dwarf bardin actually >>551884107
no it’s “emperor”
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The Emperor and Santa Claus are from the same region and ethnicity

Let that sink in
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>>551892714
Relatively speaking we’re pretty far away, but it really only takes Admonition getting their hands on some particularly potent spell in a Chaos tome or something for them to just rip open a rift in the Warp and then we’ll be in trouble.
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>>551882386
We do have some examples of unsanctioned ones capable of that but they’re the exception obviously
>>551882963
>>551884364
>>551884947
>>551885021
>>551885475
With abilities like warp lightning and assail and head popping I think Delta or just below it is a fair rating, keeping in mind that Gamma levels are people like Eisenhorn who can blow up elephant sized zombie monsters with ease, basically imagine if our Psyker could just point and one shot BoNs/Chaos Spawn/etc., but there’s room for debate since the performance of psykers in different disciplines does vary and they might not be as equally potent in abilities,
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>>551905232
Guys, are you letting it sink in?
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I can't really wrap my head around how and when to use remote det, it doesn't really seem to do that much when I set it off in a horde which is pretty much where the dog always ends up. Do I have to micro the positioning more to get more out of it or something?
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>>551906343
Use in shotgunner, gunner, mauler and rager groups or to stagger monsters
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Give me even ONE reason why 4x psyker wouldn't work
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>>551908198
Twins
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>>551908409
scriers rapes the twins faster than any other class althoughbeit
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>ESL bait again
tiring
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>>551909046
>tiring
do you work as car mechanic?
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Ancient chinese proverb;
Man running behind car, get exhausted.
Man running in front of car, get tired.
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>>551909386
Modern Chinese tradition: reverse over man again so you don't have to pay his medical bills
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>be playin on my ogryn
>be swinging all around hordes, etc.
>see my zealot wielding a gun like pic, and he even holds it as such while shooting
what the fuck was it? it looked badass
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>>551910206
prolly braced auto
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>>551910206
he was bracing his braced autogun
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>>551910806
damn, sick
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>>551860892
>because you le level up
Nigga it takes three fucking missions to get there. You spend so little time with that dogshit kit that all it serves to do is give players a bad first impression of the game. It's actually probably why I never bought the game for myself when I tried it the first time a few years back
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I'm going to do it. I'm finally going to use another ranged weapon on zealot instead of the bolter, my beloved problem solver. Picked up a good bolt pistol and looking for a flamer, is bolt pistol just a smaller magazine and slower fire rate with a faster reload?
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Does Ogryn still have a role to serve in the current version of Darktide?

Their weapons, specifically their guns and bladed implements, are such unbelievably poor tools for killing hardly anything found in Auric and Havoc. Maulers, Scab Ragers, and Crushers are absolutely dominating the battlefield, and very few items in the Ogryns arsenal are capable of handling them with any degree of efficiency. Admittedly, the "sharp" weapons are difficult to adjust, and massively increasing the relative threat of Hordes would go a long way to help, but you'd end up proxy-buffing the Psyker's Inferno staff in the process, which is already literally an order of magnitude in effective damage-per-mission above every single other weapon in the game, even the highest second performers. Their guns, on the other hand, really just need to be adjusted for the massive defensive inflation of the enemy roster though, being careful not to over-buff the already decently powerful Rumbler. They received more HP and more flak armor, and should receive appropriately higher damage.

As a specific example: The Slab Shield has the biggest identity crisis in the game. Using swap/block cancel tech to spam the Heavy 1 attack repeatedly, applying bleed to every enemy on the screen, is extremely stupid. Nobody brings the weapon for its defensive efficacy, of which it barely even has any to begin with. Blocking is an extremely underperforming atom of the game's combat system and frankly that should change, especially in regards to shielded weapons, but that's a separate topic. The power the weapon does have should be moved from its Shield to its Battle Maul component, and the shield should remain as an incredibly powerful staggering and control tool, just like its cousins found in Vermintide 2.
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2216794665

PLAYING THROUGH CAMPAIGN FOR THE FIRST TIME AND WANNA DO IT WITH SOME SCROS!!! let's game. B)
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>>551911802
role: big guy
ah'm good at it, sah
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FACT: If your character and build arent SSS+++ tier meta, its dogshit and you should delete the game
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>>551911802
Grenadier Gauntlet is giga fun but I really don't like the melee of Ogryn outside of pickaxe. Everything just feels like you're hitting them with wet paper. It actually kind of frustrates me.
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>>551911802
Just play Ogryn sniper
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>>551908198
The blight spreads.
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>>551912646
Folding shovel is fun, good horde clear and the special big hit fucks carapace. I also enjoy shield, its a little slower but the heavy 1 chained over and over makes you a fucking bulldozer destroying everything in front of you. If its a mixed horde throw in a heavy 2 for big knockback to give everyone breathing room. For ranged I really jive with the kickback, giant fuck you shotgun blast with the perk for faster weapon switch fucks anything that might try to get the drop on you.
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>>551912575
>and you should delete the game
I've tried but Fatshark locks their doors.
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>>551909386
>>551909751
Both are true. Also don’t stop to help run over man.
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>>551781840
How's Darktide doing nowadays? Still worth to hop in? I remeber playing it through Xcloud 2 years ago and found it alright. Are the new classes worth buying, or they are shit as the reviews make them look?
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>>551914352
it's still fun and the new classes are great
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>tired of finger hurting to use lasgun
>"sorry we don't have full auto capability on this lasgun despite that it fires faster than a M60 LMG"
>Ok there should be a mod that makes it full auto
>there is
>"To install the mod we need your email"
>whatever, they need money to run servers ig"
>"also you need to install this Mod launcher"
>wtf other games have this by default
>whatever, download it
>"actually you need to run a .bat to delete a bundle file or else the program won't work :3"
>ok
>error, could not read file
>back up integrity of game files
>it finally works 20 minutes later
>install las gun full auto mod
>play auric maelstrom, about to pop heads
>"SCAB FACTION ONLY EVERYONE HAS CARAPACE ARMOR ALSO EXTRA MUTANTS"
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>>551915235
Serves you right, weakfingered cheater.
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>>551882715
>pic
That’s every redditor though
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>>551914460
First 15 levels of scum is not fun at all though. You are literally a dead weight even on uprising difficulty, think about it
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what's the most kino darktide experience?
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>>551915661
all classes kind of suck to play in the early levels
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Also, how's the dog ningen class?
>>551914460
People been saying that Scum is basically a reskin in the reviews, is it true?
>>551915661
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>>551915661
>You are literally a dead weight even on uprising difficulty, think about it
The best part of scum's release is the amount of self-reporting going around.
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>>551915698
4 Veterans
Power Supply Interruption
Flashlights, on.
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>>551916051
its amazing how these 4 dudes in a trailer and one short cutscene have more personality than all of the darktide fags in multiple years
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>>551915929
Arbites is fun. He's pretty tanky and all about crowd control.
>People been saying that Scum is basically a reskin in the reviews, is it true?
Only thing that's really a reskin is all his grenades being better versions of other classes' grenades. But other than that he plays differently from everyone else being all about running and gunning and spamming stimms.
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>>551916226
>its amazing how these 4 dudes in a trailer and one short cutscene have more personality
No, they really don't.
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>>551916051
>and frank just spooked the daemonhost
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Each ogryn personality has more personality than the vermintide 1 and 2 personalities combined

Let that sink in
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>>551916760
Yes, they really do
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>>551916226
reddit-coded post
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>>551895503
the ultimate cope (bait)
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>>551915698
this
>>551916051
with regular lasguns only

followed by eviscerator FTOF zealot
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>>551910872
The funny thing is he already kinda looks like that
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>>551916760
>>551917697
This
>>551918473
Yup. Pure 40kino
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So when you people say venting shriek is the highest dps, just how much dps more than scriers are we talking about? And does that damage come from blaze or the direct damage, or from the increased uptime on being able to slam staff m2s?
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>>551918902
>flame to 80% peril
>shriek
>big fat stacks of soulblaze on everything
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Skibidi psyker
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>>551919330
>dying enemies spread soulblaze stacks to enemies around them when they die
>lighting new spawns on fire as they engage
plus
>fire ticks can crit, which can trigger empathic evasion
>enemy gunners can't hit you as long as you're burning and staggering shit so you can focus on burning and staggering shit
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Can't complete a havoc game because the matches last nearly an hour and my game will crash at some point award.
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>>551920723
I'm sorry, skibidi psyker
*pisses on his face*
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who's up for havoc? the higher the better
the more i play with randoms the less i want to
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>>551920781
Stop hoarding mods. Remove the useless ones. Trim the fat. Floydwanger isn't real, he can't hurt you.
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New
>>551921254
>>551921254
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>>551921197
>friend can't be bothered to install mods
>he needs to restart his game every hour or the memory leak crashes it
Same as Error 2014 it'll be a while before we can appropriately point fingers at Fatshark instead of blaming modders.
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>>551921854
Hmmmmm when was the last time you and your friend have shut your pc down?
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>>551905487
>people like Eisenhorn who can blow up elephant sized zombie monsters with ease
Can he? I don't recall Eisenhorn being that strong, Ravenor was always the stronger psyker.
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>>551911574
I'm sorry you're too much of an ADD zoomer to stick with a game for 3 missions then



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