No Fun Allowed Jonathan Edition[PoE 2]>New league: Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212[PoE 1]>Keepers of the Flamehttps://www.pathofexile.com/keepers>Ongoing 3.27 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J (embed)Streamer complaints go here: >>551798469
What was the holten thing? Explain
dead game dead thread
>he is a jingakh
>10 minutes without a threadwhy are we so dead...
>>551874835holten is an area in interludes, the league circle spawns VERY close to the waypoint thereyou can reset the area and get crystals much much faster than mapsalso its still exists, you can do it yourself but you cant sell it anymore to retards
You can still have fun in SSF
>>551874982So the selling was the making money part?
God bless fubby for giving me an ungodly amount of seethe to read and laugh at
So will poe1 manbabies succeed in turning poe2 into another zoom zoom poe1 meta game, or will poe2 right the ship and become a modern game that it should be?
>>551875176fubby is MY hubby get the HELL AWAY from him
Have you noticed that the downfall of POE was when we started getting more Chinese sweats?
>>551874986Not while drops are balanced around trading. SSF is for nolifers who like getting kicked in the balls.
Not to blow my own cock but GLAG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLURGH GLUG GLUG GLACK GLUG GLURGH
>>551875349Hell yeah.
alkaizer status?zacchie status?Quin69 status?fubgun status?zz ran status?rue status?
>>551874814Just got to Holten, am I doing this right?
>>551876349rapedrapedrapedwonrapedraped
>>551876434You are raped
Did they ever release the phrecia mods for average joe private leagues or was the last gauntlet a hacky strapped together special occasion?
holten run still works
I play HC SSF
>>551877337doesnt that shit take like 50 hours to set up the best temple layout? even worth doing this when it could be nerfed any day now
poop 1 eos
Tried crossbows for the first time this league.Flash grenades, armor breaking, generating heat then throwing the explosive grenades and detonating them to do less damage than a single essence drain? lmaoGalvanic shards for mapping seems cool though.
Why didn't you tell me crossbow grenade levelling was so comfy
I don't get Vaal crystals. I need 6 to run the temple and my max is 18. Do I only get 6 rooms before I open the temple? Will I be able to run the same temple 3 times on max crystals, or do rooms get squashed after each run?
>>551878005grenades is op
>>551878328Rooms get squashed after each run but you get to place more, you can't run an identical temple over and over even with stacked attempts
My only coil is giving me dry hits, jonathanI cant play poe2 like this
>>551878328kill the architect to farm crystal and medallion capacity, crystals cap at 60, medallions cap at 6. architect/atziri destabilizes a lot of rooms, for normal temple every time you close it it will destabilize ~4 rooms.
>>551878483>>551878717So say I got 12 crystals, the rooms get destabilised after the first run but I automatically get a new deck of rooms for the second run?
>>551878826yup, and you can occasionally find medallions that let you place an extra room.
>>551878826Yeah, it is exactly the same as doing a run with 6 crystals, going and doing 6 maps and then coming back and doing another run, except you don't have to do the maps in between
Abyss was more fun than temples
>>551879039Abyss is more fun this league than last league
>>551878475Well I'm in act 2 and it doesn't feel that great for bosses.
>>551879568I remember having to unload everything against bosses, Explosive + Flash Grenades and basic attack bolt too
I miss /OurGuy/ Swordbro
>>551879568use pohys frost merc
noone is actually using divines in poo2
1st time seeing this, what's the exploit going around to get people banned?
>>551880056theres no whitepaper for DIVCOIN and the dev team isnt doxxed, 0/10 wouldnt hodl
>>551880709Edge posting in global
poe2, aka>new league starts>everything is okay for a week>chinese come up with 203903290 div per second strat>everything gets inflated 20x>?
>>551881049works on my hcssf
I've only made it to act 3 this league.It'll take shadow or duelist to make me play again.
>>551881297retard
it's funny, ggg is trying to make you only do everything a little via those shittly atlas twigs, but people still end up going deep into one mechanic anyway and they hate that
>>551881760retard
>>551881642Playing the same classes and skills as last league again just isn't fun for me.
ah.. you were at my side all along
>>551879747he'll be back next league
>>551881786so play other skills? not to mention that bear, wolf, wyvern and plants are all viable builds compared to the shitshow that was huntress launch
>don't play the league cause every build looks lame and boring>stumble upon a sole fun looking build a month later >turns out it's an rmt build Lmao, you retarded fucking nigggers, I can't event attempt it, you literally don't want me to play the game. I'm just gonna buy D4 dlc, play for a week, get my share of arpg fun, and move on. Truly a game for a mazed mutts.
all of this is bait i respecced into crit and my poison damage is better
>>551882898
>>551882898>you literally don't want me to play the gameCorrect, you have a horrible "can't-do" defeatist attitude and you'll never be happy with the game no matter what, so you might as well just not even play it.Also there's like an 80% chance your "temporalis" build is retarded bait that works just fine with sands of silk and 3 owl idols.
>>551882898retard
>>551882898>maximum honor is 1its literally impossible to beat 4 floors of suckemas without getting hit
>>551882898im confused about this picdo you have to do the ENTIRE trials without taking a single hit? all for what, an armor? for 2 fucking mirrors?
>>551883305retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFNuKx8UAMcHopesissies, our lord and savior Mathil the fence sitter has spoken. League is saved. It was so simple all along. Just go;>who cares lol
>>551881642>>551881784>>551883268>>551883369stop posting
>>551883198>you have a horrible "can't-do" defeatist attitudeLet's see anons Temporalis.
>>551883414>you are not entitled to a temporalisHOLY TRVKE
>>551883438retard
>>551883414>It doesn't matter >You will own nothing and you'll be happy
>>551883397bros... trust the vision
>>551883582
>>551883684>stop
>>551883414>noo don't leave the game i need viewers>just ignore %80 of the game including crafting since prices for even a simple omen is fucked up beyond measure>just enjoy being poor since you are not entitled to anything.I hate streamers like you wouldn't believe.
>>551883768JUST CRAFT YOUR OWN GEAR!!!!JUST RUN RITUAL INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>551883414This guy has thirsty nerdy women from his chat in his dms begging him to fly them to nz and finally get married but chooses not to because?? gay?
>If I wasn't being paid I wouldn't be playing PoE2
alright whats the new exploit now
T R V K E
>>551883451if you can't farm 2k divines, you don't deserve gear worth 2k divines, and there isn't anything wrong with the game.
Rolling ruined poe2.
>>551883768Stop having this defeatist attitude, anon. You should be more like this cuck over here >>551883198 - own nothing and be happy.
HE'S RIGHTREMOVE ALL ORBSADD MORE FRICTION
>>551884061>alright whats the new exploit now
>>551884446i hate feet man gross
>>551884393seething poor can't hide his butthurt
>>551881950Wtf are you doing
>>551883768i wish there was actual real crafting in this game's campaigni know you can do it somewhat deterministic in the end game but im in act 4 and i got like 2 abyss bones and maybe 10 essences of which half are useful to meexalts are too rare for how often they brick your items i honestly cant remember one use of an exalted orb i was happy aboutchecking the shops after every level is the only thing that feels like not a waste of resources
Im level 63Ive been farming holten for the past 5hWhat now
>>551884631the campaign is undertuned enough that all the "crafting" you need is adding sockets and runes into a weapon and exalts on any random pieces that already have 1-2 good mods.>exalts are too rare run rarity. seriously.
>>551884647>Im level 63>Ive been farming holten for the past 5h>What now
>>551884791Dude
>>551884393Can you write the price you think a Temporalis should be?Like actually write it out for us, how cheap would it need to be for you to be happy?
>>551884647Log out, uninstall and get on PoE1
>>551884791i look like this
Take the HCSSF pill and leave this trash behind.
>>551885082I'm not trans, sorry
>Temporalist went from 100 divs to 2 mirrors
>>551885082HCSSF but without pausing and logging outIf you do any of those things you might as well play regular SSF
So, some peolple feel left behind because some no lifer streamer has an insane temple setup and now we need another streamer to tell us how we should feel? Apparently me and the whole community is compose of 10 year old childrens.
>>551885082I'm too shit at the game for either
Dadgamer status?
>>551885639tubbed and fubbed
only cannonball builds are fun so hc is out of the question
>>551885156we need the chinks to start duping them again, I miss 0.1 when we had god rolled temporalis for 10 divs
>>551885694>only cannonball builds are fun so hc is out of the question
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>551885694retard
>>551885894>DUELISTHe's clearly called Gladiator
So what are the odds of next poe1 league being just a economy reset tier? They will have no time with this 2 month vacation of theirs
>Mathil going full shill modeYou know the game is fucked then. Mathil only does this when he is worried about his income. He openly says that he needs PoE to have good community sentiment so he has viewership. Right now his viewership, and the viewership of all PoE creators, is tanking because GGG has released 2 terrible leagues in a row.
>>551886235Honestly I'd settle for a rerun of one of the good leagues, they're clearly not capable of producing anything even resembling a proper league at the moment
>>551886363>2
>>551883414Mathil is just retarded and treats PoE2 like PoE1.>Uhm bro if people are printing hundreds of divines YOU can become rich by farming Ritual!!!>What do you mean every single ritual related farming item is now much more expensive due to natural economy inflation?>What do you mean that regular maps don't drop anywhere near the same amount of RAW CURRENCY that temples do?>What do you mean that farming ritual for days resulted in 2 decent omens meanwhile temple farmers made another 1000+ divs?Literally nothing he says makes sense in PoE2. It only makes sense if you're thinking about PoE1. In PoE1 the economy can absorb stuff like this if it is fixed. We saw a MB dupe/farming issue with the tree in PoE1 and after a few days everything was fine.
>>551885309It really is weird how poe'ers never fail to be as melodramatic as possible about every change. Going all the way back to when eternal orbs were removed. Reading comments after the Vaal Pact nerf would have you assume GGG killed everyone's dog irl
>>551885309Nah, no one needs to tell me how to feel. NiGGGers have no idea how to balance and ruined 0.4 with a bad economy. Hopefully 0.5 will fix it and we just wait until then.The real issue is faggots on twitter/reddit/grindr acting like we've never had a fucked economy. When it happens you just abuse or quit, it is not a big deal. It has happened in PoE1 like 5-6 times at this point.
>>551886556he's 100% right thoughbeitjust farm stuff the streamers aren't and make money selling the drops they need
If I play werewolf with witch will my shapeshifted form have tits?
How hard will the ccu drop now that the holten farm is dead?
>>551886695You're retarded. The price of those items do not keep up with raw divines dropping when there are no divine sinks. This is a symptom of a poorly designed game, not omg we all better lynch fubgun.>>551886780No, no 6 nipples even though I wish they did. I don't want them to have tits though you weirdo.
>>551886797How many people do you think were actually running Holten?
>have a million easy farms>have the market completely flooded with fantastic cheap rares and uniques>WAAAH I'M PRICED OUT HELP ME FUBGUN
>>551883528biggest piece of shit poe streamer
Why shit bases like ar/es and pure ev drop a lot more than pure armor? fuck you johnatroon i just wanna craft my own shit
>>551887178retard
>>551874814jesus christ
>>551887112Name these million farms please>UHM ACTUALLY OKAY SO LIKE WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT I PUT A RITUAL TABLET IN MY ALCHED MAP AND THEN ONE TIME I HEARD MY BUDDY FOUND AN OMEN WORTH 280 EXALTS!!!
>>551883684
>>551887308whats his build
>>551883414>fence sitterDon't you dare insult the archon saint of enjoying poe.
>>551887614mathil is the biggest unpaid shill GGG has
>>551887439I'll spoonfeed you one or two if you tell me what div/h you will be satisfied with.
>>551887649>you might not be miserable like me>but you also don't get paidWell.
>>55188766850
>>551887668This game has no farms. It has nothing interesting to change your maps. It has nothing. You alch + double slam and put in 3 abyss tablets. End of discussion.Or, really, you just build a temple because it provides 100000x the returns of everything else and if you sincerely believe anything in this game compares to dropping 10-15 divines doing your temple, then you're just being silly. There is a reason everything is hyper inflated. There are no sinks. Nothing can compete with the temple printer.
>>551886235Oh no, we might end up with a great league like Sentinel, rather than some abomination like Heist.
>>551883414>I, me, myself, I MATHIL, made a build with this item and it didn't go up in priceretard got ego checked so hard he is now crashing out and begging people not to fuck off.this fucking midget's gaslighting game is some next level shit.
Use the temple or quit, why is this so hard for you fags to understand? It is like 2 weeks into the league, it is okay to quit.
>>551886363Mathil is always about just doing your own thing and not worrying about what other people do. Because that's what he does.
>>551887935No, he is just an out and out shill. He literally released a video years ago, I think it might have been during the expedition nerfs, where he basically said that he tries to be the optimistic/positive voice because if the community sentiment is too bad people stop watching him.Keepers and now Druids are both horrible leagues that have had horrible retention and horrible viewership. I am pretty sure every PoE streamer is legitimately feeling fear about their future at the moment. It has been like 6 months of bad income for them.
>>551885082HC in PoE2 especially seems like an exercise in CBT.No thank you.
>average holten enjoyer
>>551887862retard
You're going to overdose on tings and it's not going to feel good anymore if you keep playing this shit league.
>>551887785Xesht 3
>>551888121>>average holten enjoyer
>>551888097retard
>>5518880790.2 was much much worse and nothing happened. nothing happened to poe2, nothing happened to ggg, nothing happened to poe streamers.nothing ever happens. doomers and hopesissies are equally retarded niggers, I just hate that faggot mathil because he pretends to be above it all.
>>551888009Mathil is just parroting PoE1 talking points where there is a functional, multi-layered economy with various sinks of various league mechanic currency, some of which come from power-independent mechanics that can farmed by low level/skill/knowledge players. He is right about PoE1 and it is hard for anything to break the economy like this.What does PoE2 even have? Why do we trade in Divines? They don't even do anything.
>>551888247There's no need to sign your posts on 4chan.
>>551888291Literal cargo-cult economy
>>551888278What? The viewership and retention for Keepers and Druids was both measurably worse than any other modern league, as far as I can tell. Maybe Necropolis was worse.I think Streamers care if they just did PoE1 and it flopped and now they're doing PoE2 and it was flopping and then a massive economy fuck up got everyone mad.
>>551888079>OH NO PLEASE THINK OF THE HECKIN STREAMERINOS cuck simp bitch lmao
>>551887935>retard got ego checkedHe said that in response to people panicking about items becoming unaffordable, anon. Very dishonest.
>>551886695uh no, omens from ritual are actually losing value in the past few days, logbook was around half a div before and now it's 1/3 div. So Mathil is actually a retarded out of touch nigger that says shit opposite of what reddit are complaining because he wants people to call him le based
>>551888430what do you mean what you stupid fucking retard? what exactly happened? do you see any poe streamer quit the game? stop streaming poe?did anything happen to poe2? did it stop development? did it get cancelled?what happened to ggg? did they go bankrupt? did they fire people? was jonathan removed?nothing happened you retarded faggot. you're just a schizophrenic unemployed retard who thinks the world ends every fucking dogshit league.fucking cretins.
>>551888641you're just hallucinating about stuff he hasn't said, he isn't wrong
>>551888651>you're just a schizophrenic unemployed retard who thinks the world ends every fucking dogshit leagueThis should go into the OP
>>551888430The raw Steam number for people playing poe2 yesterday was about as high or higher than any poe1 league launch before Crucible. Streamers existed long before that when league launches were smaller. They will continue to exist.
So when can we see GGG's profits for 2025? I just wanna laugh at how badly they got BTFO with poo2.
>>551888651Retard post by a retarded retard and I can't believe I am even responding to you.I don't think GGG is about to EOS the game. You're making up a hyperbolized strawman. I can only assume this is because Rajesh shat in your area today and you're really upset. Okay, get this: Even if PoE won't die, we have seen that when GGG fucks up enough it does hurt streamer's income. All of them literally made videos about how a year+ of settlers with no word from GGG was forcing them all to make difficult decisions regarding their futures streaming.I think if every streamer quit tomorrow it wouldn't impact PoE that much. My point is that the reason MATHIL and other STREAMERS are coping and hoping and lying about the economy is because they don't want everyone to quit and stop watching 2 weeks into the league. This is damage control by them.
>>551883414Mathil is the talkative tri of Poe1. Get him the fuck out
>>551888651>>551888908retarded retard
>>551888993I don't even watch Mathil because he's boring to me but that's so fucking wrong. Mathil makes like 50 builds a league, tests new interactions, and overall tries to invent something good constantly.TalkativeTrigger plays 6h per league, then bitches to Jonathan about issues from 3 patches ago.
>>551888651TRVKE>>551888908Retard
It is amazing how there's never been a more low effort currency printing mechanic in POE1, given its reputation for being out of control power. Just set the temple up once and off you go. No chance of ever making a mistake. No thinking. No continued maintenance in terms of buying juice. No downtime. It's the lowest barrier to entry to a slot machine endlessly sucking your dick.This finally happened https://clips.twitch.tv/SeductiveBrainyJellyfishRuleFive-PkYm-HRobAhdgSjS
>>551888908yeah and I said that I don't like mathil because he thinks he's above it all and that dogshit leagues don't matter, player dissatisfaction doesn't matter because when 0.2 was live poe2 was down to mostly negative and now it's back to mostly positive or higher.my point is nothing happens, not to the game, not to the streamers and not to ggg.if you count some streamers making videos crying about lack of content as something happened then you're fucking retarded because they're still here, they're still streaming poe.
Aha! Ive found you Raneesh, post your hands and RMT bill, NOW!
>>551883414>just farm breach for 50ex/hr bronigger
>>551889165Mathil will happily let Jonatroon and Chris write SLUT on his forehead with their poop because it means accepting whatever GGG shoves down his throat.Also Mathil is the equivalent of doing campaign runs, he bitches out at T16 maps and burns all his portals on a pinnacle boss and claims if he played better it would've died so it counts.
>>551889467did you just say the heckin n worderino~?!did you just post a heckin racism?
This is the kind of ideal scenario where price controls actually work.
>>551889738retard
>>551889578just stating facts
Poop 2
is there any atlas mechanic that's way better than the other or should I just spec into the one I like to do
>>551890263Please clarify.You mean PoE1 or PoE2?
>>551890263Fun/hr is the best farm :)
STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ECONOMY BEING RUINEDhttps://youtu.be/AFNuKx8UAMc
path of retard
I am once again asking for a good PoE2 SSF build
>>551890497the only good poo2 build is the uninstall build
>>551890443what is that small child even saying, someone give him a stool
>>551883414>crafting is in a great state
>>551890497titan shield wall
>>551890723is it fun?
Mathil, Talkative Tri and Talkative Tri's dad will host a podcast to discuss how great GGG, POE2 and the state of the game are right now.
>>551890757It's PoE2, so not really
>>551889570Again I don't even watch him more than 5 minutes a league, but comparing him to the Trigger is just unfair.
>>551890757>fun>poe2nigguh..
>>551883414yeah mathil doesnt even care about economy shit. that's his thing because every other streamer is currency maxing. mathil on the other hand is literally currency minimizing, he actually plays the way that earns you the least possible currency as possible.
>>551890850>>551890885I like PoE2.
lunar beam wolf or calamity bear? Wolf feels like max Combo Play ™ so i would like to avoid it if i can help it but it has the edge on single target i think
I tried druid for 20 minutes at league start and then never logged in againI'm currently playing the new paladin class in D4.
>>551891031same but I finished all "content" in poe2 before I quit day 4
>>551890359oh right, poe 2
In poe2 is there a way to play as a non-human creature like an orc or werewolf or something like that ? I feel like tearing through a horde of enemies as a giant monster would be sick as hell.
>d4 baiter fishing for (You)s again
d4 won
>>551890757It is two buttons, so you have a little delay for damage which can be dangerous in some situations, but damage is very chunky with wide AoE and crafting shields is very easy. Armor gets comfortably tanky (not as much as super big ES but viable)
>>551890497I stopped playing in 0.3.1
>TFTroons got fucked by the new hotfixgood enough
The thing that these retarded streamers and redditards don't get is that not only is temple just the best farm, but once set up it is entirely reliable and gives consistent, very high profit.Everything else is just RNG and less profitable. You're not guaranteed to find omens. You're not guaranteed to get the right catalysts. You're not guaranteed an Olroth's Resolve. Meanwhile Temples are locked. They give similar currency and the same double corrupts every time.This>lmao go farm ritualshit is for fucking retards because in ritual the game itself treats getting a divine orb from one like a rare event, meanwhile in temple it is a common occurrence.
Been away for a couple days, is temple stacking patched out now? Had a character about to reach Holten. I really just wanted to farm cultivation orbs for a chance at a crazy Doryanis Prototype.
>>551890497Learn to use poe.ninja. EDC lich is very easy
touch of cope-ACK!
>>551891690EDC is boring as fuck.
>2roons are so desperate to pretend their game is viable that their bar for a build being fun is being able to damage the monsters and *almost* survive sometimesGruesome.
>erm, you caring lil gup?>a big care?>lol just don't care lil bro, look at you caring with your cares>LMAO THIS LIL BRO IS CARINGMathil needs to fuck all the way off, he wore out his welcome ages ago. Innovate some more T11 map farmers
Lily pits
>>551891919that's a man
Reminder that Memethil defended archnemesis to the death until he was successfully bullied into changing his opinion months later. He will *ALWAYS* slurp GGG cock because playing GGGslop is the only way an uneducated 5'1" loser can make $300k a year.
>>551892103if it's so easy then why don't you do it? you'd be stupid not to, there is no way you make $300k a year.
there was nothing wrong with archnemesis, besides it not going far enough
>>551892449In PoE? Yeah, no way. Mathil got in early and kept it consistent and even has a presence on youtube.In streaming in general? Hmm, probably a better shot than you think but still unlikely. That is to say, the odds of making $300k doing anything are basically 0 for anyone here, but maybe you can randomly catch some autistic fanbase and grow if you stream.
>>551874814>No Fun Allowed Jonathan Editiondadgamers won?
>>551892980tot he dadgamer fun is that nobody who plays more will beat them
matil is so tuff for not caring...
Tri won.Mathil won.Zizaran lost.Tubgun lost.Nugi won.Alk lost.Zaccie won.Jonathan won BIGLY.Chris lost.Raxx lost.PoE1 lost.PoE2 won.
>rolled back 30 minutesjon???
>>551891919the amount of filters are making xir's face unclear
>>551883414Thank god mathil is the one sane person. People look so stupid freaking about this shit. It happens every fucking league. People were saying this about the tree in keepers. Why are people so obsessed with what other people have. It's a weird logic that poe is zero-sum. I think dad gamers make like 5 natty divines a league, then see someone getting 10d on a single screen and freak out that they're wasting their time or something. You're playing a video game, you're already wasting time.
>>551894649It's not actual casuals. It's the people who play a lot and are just bad that get the most upset.
is pbod herald stacking fun to play
>>551894649+1 discord rank for defending your queen
how do you think they'll nerf djinn/plants/shapeshift next league? they have to kill the old new stuff to make room for the new new stuff. assuming we get any i guess.
>>551894820we're not getting a new class next league though
>>551894789I'm liking it, but it's nothing special. You could skip it and not miss out. I enjoyed crafting all my gear for it since it was a nice break from the typical essence on a fractured item crafting.
>>551894938we're actually get 3 new classes and 35 new ascendencies and a surprise 10 new acts (the campaign will be 70 hours)
bump
>>551895285HOLY BASEDJONATHAN SAMA I KNEEL IN YOUR TUB
>>551894954I might switch to it, did all the ubers on my ignite eviscerate already so I want something a bit more active instead of waiting to get hit to do anything
>>551895717I will say, you kinda need to pick a version to go for and budget to spend because there's very little transferrable between them all.Also it's fairly squishy.
>>551895939I got like 150d in the bank and I've already got a mageblood and svalin so I think I'll be fineWill spend the workday looking at different versions thenThanks anon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I *NEED* TO PLAY THE 5 MIRROR TEMPORALIS BUILD SO THAT THE DOGSHIT GARBAGE GAME THAT I HATE PLAYS LIKE POE 1 AND NOT DOGSHIT GARBAGE NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
>>551896236You NEED a source of explosion for PBoD builds, be it a mirror wand, an explodey chest or the foulborn bereks, so center your build around that.I personally went for a CI version and there's another anon who has a life based version. If you already got the svallin, you will probably want to do the life version.Also the tattoos are not required at all, I had none for the longest time and fitting them into my build was an expensive headache that while nice, were not necessary.
I just made my 50th exalted orb. How many more temple's do I need to run before I can start doing what Fubgun is?
>>551896527about tree fiddy
>>551896248
it's uphttps://youtu.be/xOYpl3GhkYo
Jonathan Won.the aislop spammer jeet lostsimple as
>>551896953>23 subsbuy an ad bro
You either craft or run holten estate, those are your options.
they should have some kind of trade league mmr. people playing 15 hours a day with optimal grinding strats should be in a different trade league than my uncle returning from poe 1 several years ago.
>>551894820thunderstorm is the only plant skill that will get nerfed. oil spray is the only shapeshift skill that will get nerfed (because of what it does in campaign). djinn probably no nerf they'll just let 20k ES disciples exist because they're still planning to balance ES far in the future like always.
>>551897275HOLY TRVKE
Lily is quite masculine today
Do better, anons.
poe2 is dei slop
>>551897275>Jonathan Won.Is that the name of the guy Tencent sent to the GGG offices to fix things?
league saved
ack
>>551898905is that mathil
>>551898385>base any speed or fluidity locked behind end game crafting and chase items>make the base gameplay feel like slow dogshit otherwise>surprised when people are upset they can't obtain this fucking retards
>>551899197SOFT hands made this post.
>>551896781>1sissy outs himself with personalized search historyembarrassing
>entire game revolves around trade>economy gets fucked up>looool just stick to your lane bromouthbreathers
>I MUST SUFFER WHILE OTHERS TAKE THE EASY ROAD>THIS MAKES ME A MORALLY SUPERIOR PERSON AND A BETTER HUMAN THAN YOU WILL EVER BE>I CAN NOW GUILT YOU INTO THINKING THE SAME WAY AND SPIT ON YOU FROM MY HIGH HORSE CONSTANTLYno, it doesn't turd. it just makes you a retard.
>>551898505you're way too nu to be posting herelurk like 2 more years
path of exile 2? more like elden ring rip off lmao
>>551899418retard
>>551899365Trade still works. Good items are still cheap.
>>551899375Playing video games seems to cause you a lot of mental anguish, anon.
0.4 was shit piece, will 3.28 be shitpiece?
the temporalis build doesnt even look that good compared to poe1niggas paying 5 mirrors to be slower than a 50div poe1 autobomber
>>551899375playing video games is not suffering. Please go outside
>>551899776it's the RMT build of the league, the RMT build is always terrible value.
https://youtu.be/AFNuKx8UAMcMathilgods keep winning.
Has /poeg/ thanked fubbers for saving 0.4 yet?
Guys, i've got it... tubgun
>>551900076Thank you for posting the video once again.No, we still have not watched it.
Are most poe players unemployed? Idg how the dropoff from Sunday to Monday is so small
>>551900095milky saved 0.4 tho
>>551900264>wenewfag
>>551900298>working between christmas and NY
>>551900298tons of people take these days off.
>>551900298bots, chink rmters
>>551900334Still not watching it.
>>551900298>media so successful in their war on christmas that retards don't even know what time of the year it isgrim
>>551900298>Idg how the dropoff from Sunday to Monday is so smallt. wageslave so cucked it doesn't understand that people do take the holidays off
>>551900551more likely that other poster is just brown and/or third world and doesn't celebrate christmas
Why are people so stupid? Really, why does everybody cry about the economy being ruined? Do people lack even the most basic understanding of economics? Yes, people print divs in the temple but you aren't left behind if you don't. Rarity omens are dirt cheap right now (5c) and you can get abyss tablets that ran for 1div+ a few days ago for like 20-30ex and all the abyss currency is mooning. I made ~80div in just over 2 hours farming abyss, which is insane. I swear, people just chose to be miserable.
>poe2 defence force already dropping in with "holidays during Christmas" bitpredictable
>>551900421Yeah it's greatI work from home but don't actually do any work so I just make time and a half while playing PoE
>>551900748>Do people lack even the most basic understanding of economics?Yes. Remember that Ziz complained to Jonathan that we needed more DIV sinks to stop the ex:div ratio from getting too high
>>551900896how is that a bad economic take?
>>551900748>The economy isn't ruined if you just focus on the one unsaturated marketThank you Adam Smith
>>551901085>the one unsaturated marketCatalysts are even more wild. This always happens when there's a giga profitable strat, everything becomes more profitable, because the giga juicers still need all the other currency.
>>551901062adding more use cases for an item raises the demand for that item and makes it more valuable.
>>551899672>>551899864
>make completely factual, non controversial post on poe2 reddit>downvotedwhat causes this phenomenon
>>551901443>Screenshotting your own twitter posts
I stopped playing poe1 because the breach walls in maps got really tedious and I was basically just playing standard anyway, that was like a month agodid they seriously not change anything still? it's actually over..
>make completely factual, non controversial post on /poeg/>called a retardwhat causes this phenomenon
how's the poe experience on linux these days
>>551901784>he can't stop losing
>>551901664>>551901815Mark is very upset and spends too much time here.
>>551901815retard
retard
>>551901664go back
Mathil sold some unique thing for 79d, what was it? I know someone else much watch him
How is this ok? PoE2 is literally designed to grift the player
>>551901964Mageblood
>>551901664>post on reddit>suffer the consequences of posting on reddit
>>551902034I'm not going to bother redownloading PoE1 for this but imagine I posted "How is this ok? PoE1 is literally designed to grift the player" with a screenshot of the Act 7 Vaal City layout
does this still apply?for the galvanic shart build from rue
>>551902237that map has a very clear layout though and unlike poop2 the exits for zones are always in the same places each league
>>551902370Guess what's also true for the zone you posted
>>551902237Vaal city always has the exit roughly in the middle without gay dead end tunnel stumps at least. Even the worst dogshit poe 1 zone is always more readable than an average poo2 one
>>551900748>I made ~80div in just over 2 hours farming abysswhy is lil bro lying
>>551902348Yeah you need some damage left as phys so the lightning portion doesn't get too high
Why is it that you trade league players get your league set on fire every release? Whereas my SSF is shielded from your mockery of a league? Get fucked. And trade league is supposedly "the way" to play the game? lmao.
>>551900748omen of light prices have gone down, ritual prices have gone down, nobody is crafting everyone is just spamming temple hoping to buy mirrors.
>>551902543I was broke as fuck before.
>>551902551so no qual on stormblasts then
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFNuKx8UAMc>you are not entitled to temporalisbased
>still no seamless switching between controller and kbm, despite even the most low budget indie games having this feature Thank you Jonathan, very cool.
>farm farm farm farmok but for what, I already killed the pinnacles with my 1 div starterI have the same problem in poe1
>>551902726shoulda been 3 seconds of him saying:>POO TWO BAD
>>551902237>Act 7 Vaal CityTakes me 30 seconds to find the entrance because that map has a set condition for the door to spawn. Directly north of the map entrance. I don't expect a retarded poo2 player to know that though.
>>551902774ruthless ssf (hardcore) fixes this
>>551902656I'll go try again but if I dont have 5 divs within half an hour you are big bullshit
>>551902956Important context maybe. My IRR and my build can handle 3x 11% monster effectiveness tablets.
>>551901347yeah but unlike a real economy using a div removes it from the market, it doesn't just recirculate. also those use cases would have to have demand themselves. what's happening currently is hyper inflation from the minority abusing the mechanics of the vaal temple and flooding the market with raw divs and joe-blow has to abuse it too or afford nothing.
>>551902912>>551902484If you browns actually could afford a poe2 key you would know that it is also a very obvious layout and nobody would ever clear down the dead end anon was complaining about
>GGG IS PUTTING THE GAME ON RAILS!! WHY CAN'T I USE THIS PAYOFF SKILL TO APPLY THE DEBUFF IT REMOVES?!Has there ever been a more retarded take?
>>551903094>164I have 30 something
>>551903201"Payoff" skill is a retarded tubbed idea so yeah the redditor is right to be mad
Will SOMEONE think about the dadgamers... PLEASE
>>551902726holy FUCKING TRVKE. I thought australians weren't based?
>>551903201why do payoff skills exist in the first placesounds like builder/spender slop
>>551903094What build are you running that you can comfortably fit in that much rarity?
>you are not entitled to temporalisI am, it's the most fun item in the game. Kill yourself you vile le positive tranny.
>>551903146>what's happening currently is hyper inflation from the minority abusing the mechanics of the vaal temple and flooding the market with raw divs and joe-blow has to abuse it too or afford nothing.why is it that people are so fucking stupid that they cant figure out how markets work and that they can abuse holes in the market to make even more money than divine printers
>>551903275payoff skills are a retarded idea (in arpgs) but thinking niGGGer would allow it to be self-sustaining or that they should be self-sustaining is even more retarded
>>551884446disgusting kike feet
>>551902726>i was having SO MUCH FUN in keepersyou can tell he hated it
>>551903146>unlike a real economy using a div removes it from the marketCommodity markets in the real world also obey the laws of supply and demandThe div:ex ratio for this time in the league really isn't different than it was in 0.3. Exalts are, as they were designed to be, not valuable things to hold on to any more than augments are. Nobody farms exclusively raw exalts, so holding up that ratio as the standard bearer for the health of the economy is retarded.
>>551903551>The market being abusable is fine since you can abuse it tooVery interesting take.
>MY BUILD FREEDOM IS CRIPPLED!How so? All people did in PoE1 is put the highest percent damage supports into the one gem you were using. I hated that about PoE1. My main skill was basically taxed 3 support gems because you basically always had to use melee physical support, brutality and close combat or some shit. 3 fucking gems instantly otherwise its wet noodle tier. Fuck PoE1 gem setups.
I liked keepers. Not the league mechanic though. Async was super comfy and fun.
>>551903692I mean that's just capitalism. There are entire "first world" countries running on just that.
>>551903692>people farm a thing>people dont farm the other thing>the other thing gains very high value compared to the popular thing people farmpoint out one bad thing about this situation
>>551903732>Had toYou didn't. Close combat quickly tapers off unless you were rubbing faces with enemies. Melee Phys actually nerfs your attack speed and brutality locks you out of elemental possibilities. It's genuinely just your fault if you think you're locked into those supports.
Reminder none of this would be an issue if we didn't have async Gog was right, it's killed another league
>>551903551people want to blow up monsters, not be hideout warriors. abusing the market is brownoid/shitbaggery and just slightly more distasteful than exploitation of game mechanics.
>mathil is seething because his community is upsetfun
>>551900748>you can get abyss tablets that ran for 1div+ a few days ago this is a part of the equation that retards can not comprehend because they never spend any currency on map materialsits still not as profitable as farming the temple but relative to the price of items, you are making more money than before. like any hyperinflation ultra juice retard league you can farm something for a few hours and buy a headhunter.
>>551903732people claiming builds are limited aren't making builds, they're annoyed that build creators aren't making builds FOR them for every class and archetype.but the real reason for that is because pob2 is lagging behind the changes of the game, and all "build creators" ever did was look at what gives high numbers in pob.
>>551903907retard
>>551903992Give us 3.28 news
>>551903401https://pobb.in/YLFBOThETVkyBloodmage. People are sleeping on the Khatal tech, that alone turns choir of the storm into a mini-autobomber.
>why are you mad about some fucktard CEO being a billionaire?>you are not entitled to a CEO's mansion>just chill and enjoy waging away little goy
>>551903917mathil always was the hopechad supreme, slaying doomsissies when they get too uppity.
>>551903972I never played trade before this league and one of the first things I did was buy a bunch of rare tablets. most people who play this game don't really know anything about it.
>>551904075retard
>>551904075shalom
given its pretty easy to farm, why is Rigwald's Ferocity so expensive? is it good for anything except making move skills go slightly faster?
>>551904042great build you got anon.surely this doesn't feel bad to play?
>>551904042>83% rarity andvarius Holy fucking tranny retard LMAO
>>551903326I think people use builder spender terms too loosely. That setup implies that one skill is significantly weaker than the other. Basically people think the "spender" skill has to be a weak noodle skill you use to get to the big skill. Not the case. I mean it could be if you set it up that way. I use rolling slam to build rage and break armor. Then I use sunder when its needed. Sunder has decent range too so you can hit ranged enemies more easily. Not sure why people get upset about having the option of pressing a second button.
They just murdered poor innocent dadgamers slaving away in the holten carry mines for big streamerWhere's the justice
>>551904025ask your mom
>>551904119mathil understands that he is playing a singleplayer game that happens to let you buy items from other players, not a wealth-check epeen-waving game.
i'm very close, do not force me johnathan..
>>551904279no one who says poe2 is "builder spender" has actually tried to design a build. if they did they'd know that the functionality where you press more buttons if you want to deal more damage is already in the game, i.e. you can press less buttons if you get better gear and pressing more is either an ssf adaptation or purely optional.
>>551904253I went back and forth between mobility and rapid casting on the spark and the latter feels smoother. Yes you slow down more, but with my setup just a few spark casts are enough to clear the screen. >>551904254Look, I don't like IRR as a mechanic either, but if you aren't hitting 150+ you're just giga cucking yourself if Jonathan didn't cuck IRR rolls on rings I'd wear 2 gold rings.
Is FOMO a legitimate mental illness? I think most issues people have about this game can be traced to FOMO. I have never felt FOMO about anything and its hard for me to understand how people with bad FOMO feel. I have met people who play path that say shit like "Well, if I don't farm abyss, I am going to miss out on XYZ". What is it about FOMO that drives people crazy?
>>551903876you should always be adapting supports to your weapon and exact skill usage, not just copying some retard with a maxroll account.
>>551903665commodity markets in the real world also don't function like in vidya games. me slaving in a cubicle day after day won't manifest a new mona lisa out of thin air into my hands like me alch-n-go'ing maps until a mageblood pops out of a random jar or fallen monster.exalts are absolutely designed to be more valuable than augments are, and more to the point -supposed- to have more value than just legal tender and have a built-in mechanism for preventing (hyper)inflation. that was niGGGers whole design philosophy behind orbs and omitting gold from the game for over a decade. how their design actually manifests is a different story...
>>551904042>on the Khatal techplease explain
>>551904569This is actually a good take and makes sense. I play SSF and press multiple buttons. I enjoy that gameplay but I am sure if my build got very strong, I could set it up to press one button. That isn't my desire though. The reality is that both types of builds exist pretty easily. I have seen one button spark builds. One button lightning arrow builds etc. I have also seen multi button lightning arrow builds etc. Both types can exist in this world. Its just a matter of how strong your character is or is not I guess.
>>551904282The ban wave is going to be of biblical proportions. You will see the forums, this place, discord, Reddit, twitter, tinder, Pinterest, and chain mails going all up in flames. People defending it are trying to save their ass by justifying it through insane mental gymnastics. It's fucking over! I can't wait for the outrage.
Has anyone tried that persistent ground 3 support gem? it says the ground effect makes enemies cooldowns take longer to use again but how useful is that? Obviously it doesn't hurt to have that if you are using a lot of ground effects anyway but most enemies have fast cooldowns anyway it seems. Not sure how much a diff it makes.
>>551900551chirstmas is a consumer holiday. nobody can afford shit.
>>551904994I wouldn't be surprised if it flat out doesn't work on half the enemies because nobody at GGG bothered to use it and it has been incorrectly coded from the very beginning. Or it's incredibly OP and breaks some bosses AI.
>>551904805>that was niGGGers whole design philosophy behind orbs and omitting gold from the game for over a decade.There are plenty of currencies that still have value, just not base exalts. And that's what makes the system good compared to gold. If one is hyperinflating, just move to a different one. Regular exalts being common enough to be worth using during the campaign was a stated goal of the design in PoE2.
PoE2 actively moves the exits around as you move about the map to ENSURE it's the last thing you find.
This is a disgusting league. The first week they illegally mined mirrors. The second week they used the temple to mine 1000 currency, which collapsed the economy. Now they found something else again. It's just a nightmare. A disgusting game.
>>551904930>ban waveNothing will happen
>>551905335>Now they found something else again??
>>551904827You put Khatals Rejuvenation into your Life Remnants. This provides you with a +40% increased cooldown recovery. Together with Cooldown Recovery 2 and Temporal Mastery that lets you push down your Lightning Bolt CD to 0.26 seconds, which translates to it triggered every 0.05 seconds which in turn does a fucking of damage.
>>551904847I've realized I don't want to hit more than two buttons to kill white mobs even in ssf but 3-4 is fine for magics and rares and silly combos are actually fun for bosses. I'm even using syzergy this league, have probably gotten it off twice in total lmao
>>551904930I dont know how one can watch fubgun. Like this is a man completely out of control of his life.
>white mobs do more damage than most of the bosses
mathil's opinions are forever skunked because he admitted years ago in a video that streaming poe1 is how he pays his bills so he's incentivized to give forgiving or favorable takes.him trying to smooth over a shit league and trying to ostracize people that complain about the league, legitimate or otherwise, will always be par for the course. frankly that should be true for any non-variety streamer.
>>551904623Something being a legitimate mental illness just means that a doctor is giving you random pills that have never been proven to help anyone.
>>551905552who?
>>551904279sounds like payoff is just a tubbed version of vaal skills desu senpai
Delve Princess just got banned
>>551905552>schizo babbleWhy are all the other streamers being whiny little shits then, you fat faggot?
>>551904994>it says the ground effect makes enemies cooldowns take longer to use again but how useful is that?there are regular enemies with very annoying abilities on longer cooldowns but you often won't notice because most enemies explode too quickly, it assume its more relevant vs bosses? might be better if you are a witchhunter and take those cd-reduction ascendency nodes and also some notables that are on the tree to really stack it.
>>551905764AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>551905403That's pretty cool, thanks anon.
>>551905764>keep doing that
>>551905764My personal TriGOD...
retard question, if I only have 2 ascendency and join a buddy for final sanctum kill will I get the final 4 points or do I also need to join for the scorpion kill?
Fubgun just started masturbating on stream
>>551905873???
>>551875235Considering the fact that PoE1 is a fun game and modern games are not fun, I think PoE2 should head towards PoE1.
>>551905167>>551904994there have been patches where GGG confirmed they were reducing the cds on some regular monsters, I think prowling shades? the guys that go invisible then freeze you after a windup. its also on the passive tree so its definitely a stat on a spreadsheet somewhere for a bunch of monsters.I did use persistent ground this league before respecing out of gredades but didn't really make a comparison.
>>551905764Connor did irreparable damage to his psyche
>>551905764UNCHAINED HARDMAN real!??!?!
>>551905873How big is his temple snake?
I looked up a guide to crafting and it's 45 minutes long, is it really that hard?
>>551905873I thought videogames WERE his form of masturbating
Why nobody respond me ? Poe doesnt need new players ?
>>551884446>38-42 sizethat's a man
>>551906112>45 minyou mean that easy? poe1 crafting guides are much longer.
>>551906112Depends on how advanced you want to get and how quick you can learn. YouTube is not the best.
>>551905552https://clips.twitch.tv/BoldAlertGooseSoonerLatermathil always had based takes
>>551906112Less "hard" and more of>you have these options and interactions that are not immediately available, please consider that>also these things that don't actually work, so please check this>actually most of the information you'll find in the game is worthless so please use this website insteadAlso 45 minutes is just to explain one specific craft.
Stop fellating that midget tranny scathil you underage cucks.
>>551905552no shit
I SAIDWHY IS RIGWALD'S FEROCITY LINEAGE SO EXPENSIVEI DEMAND SOMEONE ANSWER MEEEEE
Does anyone understand the Ckaiba Temple tech that he is using to exclude Armory's from his snake?
>>551906389because thats the price i set it for
>>551903427delicious poorfag tears
>>551905935counterpoint: Elden Ring and expedition 33 is more fun poe1, wow is more fun than poe1, d4 is more fun than poe1, etc. there is nothing fun about poo1
>>551902759console game no bitching
>>551905282>"pennies are hyperinflating? just move to nickels!">"nickels are hyperinflating? just move to dimes!"I don't have the energy to address this...>Regular exalts being common enough to be worth using during the campaign was a stated goal of the design in PoE2unfortunately the way that manifested is it's still better to trade the exalts you find instead of using them. even in a best case scenario in which you get a rare drop that has 4 good mods and you can potentially use 2 exalts to slam 2 more good mods is a worse gamble than just buying a rare with 6 good mods for 2 exalts.
>>551906363seethe
>>551905852You always get the amount of points correlated to the level of the sanctum. That's why literally everybody spends 1div when rerolling to get 8 points at lvl 24.
>>551902475retard
>>551906602smoll
>>551906490(chair clatters)
>>551906363He's a homosexual. Not trans. Don't mislabel him please.
this game is shit lmao
>>551906308That sounds confusing? How am I supposed to know what's a good base and get the stats I actually want?
>>551903427I remember MF gear being so plentiful in D2 that I was gifted it all on day 1 by my friends after being boosted to level 83 in a matter of hours so I could farm hellstone charms and keys with them
Atziris spear - is it good?
>>551906530Subjective. Mapping in PoE1 is far more enjoyable and fun than it is in PoE2.
Holten trannies are still raping the gamehttps://www.twitch.tv/pathofexilebota
>>551906530>d4 is more fun than poe1 or anythingyou strained credibility too far blizzdrone
>>551906854JONATHAN LOOK AT HIS NAME HE'S BOTTING JONATHANJONATHAAAAAN
>>551903732Okay and now you have the choice of using how many support gems on your main gem? Do you still use 5? What changed?
>>551906762poedb and craftofexile
>>551906854soon>banski
>>551906854LMAOOOOOOoooooo (muffled *oooo* in the distance). This shit game is something else man. And niGGGlets too.
>>551906762>What's a good baseWatch a guide/check wiki so it'd explain to you what's available as the basics require you to learn about attribute types and item levels as that dictates what an item can have.>get the stats I actually wantYou don't. But that's dismissive, but nearly all possible steps save for benchcrafting have some level of randomness to it.
>>551905731what does that have to do with anything?
>>551906934nta, but you actually have shitloads of choice and what supports you use depends highly on what you spec into the on the passive tree, exactly how you're using what skills, and even what damage type mods your weapon does.
you guys think lily has a fat cock or nah?
>>551906703thank you for your patronage goy
>>551907073>>551906965I'm guessing the chain is something like:>find good base>load it into craftofexile>see what items give the stats I want (I assume craft tells you this)>get the items>slam those until I actually get the stats
>>551907167no, but i can tell you that she has a pink and a black chastity cage
>>551907191what's it for anyway30% increased attack speed isn't that good unless you have no attack speed from anywhere else. I just want to put it on leapslam
>>551904569How to?>totem build using power charges and no extra buttons>firestorm without infusions>lightning warp without extra buttons>flameblast build without extra buttonsI await your response
>>551906823If you dont like pressing buttons and want to turn your brain off then sure.
>>551907313It gives you tons of damage
>>551907270>>see what items give the stats I want (I assume craft tells you this)It can show you possibilities but not really the way to get them.>>slam those until I actually get the statsNot happening. You basically need a "route" first, let's say essence crafting where you take a fractured item (one mod is locked) and spam essences on it until you get another T1 mod and decide how you want to go from there. Foulborn Exalts makes slamming a bit more palatable but still not ideal.
AHHAHAHAFUBGUN GOT BANNED
FUBGUN CRYING ON STREAMTUNE IN
>>551906530>expedition 33why not just watch a movie ffs?
>>551907313according to poe ninja its most commonly used with walking calamity on shaman, i know nothing about bear though
>>551907393those mechanics are all things you use if you are willing to add more buttons anon1-button totem and selfcast aoe spell builds exist, you just need better gear.
FUBGUN JUST GOT OUT THE ROPESOMEBODY DO SOMETHING
>>551907635because hollywood slop is worse than french asset flips?
>>551906112Youtubers are very bad with condensing information.
>>551907543>>551907621>>551907727IT'S REAL HAHHAHAHAHHAA
>>551907151Okay name 5 different sets of support gems for a single skill you've encounterd
>>551906437Spy and Hall can connect with one another, but the max upgrade is 2 for the Hall in this setup. You need the Depot for 3. Instead you use the upgrade medallion to get it to 3.
>>551907762yeah, nah. French entertainment is literally nigger miscegenation slop. It's where the US got its' multi-cult from
>>551907767They are incentivized to make it as long as possible for ad revenue. It's why they make 20 minute videos explaining every 1-paragraph GGG announcement.
>>551907530Stupid question, but you spam the essence to get the T1 mod you want right? let's say you use a essence and don't get the mod you want, do you use something to remove it or do you just slam another one or something that will change that mod?
why is one attention-seeking retard trying to herd people to fugbun's boring stream? if it was remotely true you would've posted a screenshot
>>551907521>30% more damageso like a bunch of other supports that don't cost 6 divhell heavy swing gives you 35% more damage for the same AS penaltywhy is everyone so bad at this game lol
>>551907931Well this is a blue board and there's blood everywhere
>>551907621over what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-sX0EqZZZIName a better track to listen to while you grind. You can't.
>>551907931>the creation of poop 2
>>551907907okay but we're talking about expedition 33 which has one black character that dies during the prologue
>>551907931>jonatroon developing poo2, archived
>>551907930Not quite, how that works is that an essence will always give the listed mod + rerolls everything else. So if you use it on a T1 fractured item, it gives you a T1 or better mod (top tier Zeal gives more AS than a T1 speed mod) and you can then start fishing for another T1 mod and you'll end up with a triple T1 modded weapon. If you're lucky, there's an open affix for you to put stuff on. If you're ballsy and there are enough open stuff, you can benchcraft locks on it and then use a veiled exalt but that's "advanced".
I have never played expedition 33
>>551907670>Walking Calamity>Attack Speed: 70% of base>Attack Damage: 0% of basehuh so maybe it makes meteors fall more frequently with no downside if you put it in weapon set 1. maybe together with everyone in the league playing druid it explains the cost staying high. I thought I was going to need to use it to proc a fissure every 0.2 seconds using totems but it turns out that with the right setup that was pretty trivial.
>>551908051is he saying "epstein fuck niggas" or "epstein fucked niggers"?
>>551908276It was made by 3 people for $5 working in a garage with a box of scrapsJust like poe2
>>551908263So if an essence rerolls everything else how do I lock in other mods or do you only use an essence for 1 of the T1s you want and use some other currency to fish for the others?
>>551908276me neither.it looks overdesigned and BG3's mocapped facial animation has ruined every other game for me.
>>551908276It's a dog shit over hyped game that used indian shilling farms to shill the game everywhere and then they bought all the awards it got.
>>551908276It's slop
>>551908419The person you are responding to is confusing poe1 and poe2 essence mechanics with each other.
>>551908573I'll just watch the guide then and figure it out from there
>>551908276it's fun but it suffers from the same shit early ps2 games suffered from: 5 minute bursts of gameplay sandwiched between movie length cutscenes
>>551908761I would like to watch her poop
>>551908419>>551908573Yeah, it's PoE1, can't give much input on 2.
>>551907490It's more than just the gameplay. It's easy to setup a bunch of maps in poe1 and run them back to back without any trouble. You can't do that in PoE2 because there's so much bullshit to hinder your fun, such as the random atlas.
>>551907775you must already realize that just setting up for crit, flat damage, or ailments gives you three for any skill right? but it depends on how many you mean by a "set". am i meant to list 30 different gems per skill? obviously life is too short. in any case you want to support skills based on what you want them to do, so viable setups would mean listing multiple skills and explaining what each does in context. tl;dr no u
>>551908847I was asking about PoE2 crafting, I guess I should have been more clear. Thanks for the help anyway anon.
>>551908832b-but that's perverted, anon...
>>551908913Ailments are best scaled by crit, so this is the same thing. And flat damage isn't a thing you get on support gems. Try again
there is flat damage on support gems thougheverbeit
>>551908861I do think ggg should figure out a way to let autists run 1 map 40 times if they want, if only to shut you people up.
>>551908913I asked you to name just 1 (one) example of a skill where this is true. Name one example of a skill, any skill, that has 5 different use cases that are all within parity of one another>>551909224no there isn't there is gain as. Not the same thing
>>551908276It's great. I thought that the phase of my life where I could get fully engrossed by a single player game was over, but that game made me feel like I did in my youth again.
The poe2 atlas is thoughtful and methodical
>>551909301alch n' go peasants such as yourself should be seen and not heard.
>>551908748Best way to learn crafting is to understand mod pools (poe2db.tw) to know what stats are possible on each base, which are prefixes/suffixes, and which ones are more rare/valuable.Once you have that, you can be able to value items with fewer than 6 mods based on the probability distribution of the remaining random slams.Then for the other currencies, you just learn them one at a time to know when they're worth using and how much they improve your odds vs. random slams.Complexity ladder:Base currencies -> greater currencies -> greater essences -> no-omen defiles -> omen defiles -> perfect essences -> fracturing -> other omens -> recombination
>complete the campaign onceFurther campaign runs have the following (seasonal or not):>maps unfogged>all way points unlockedYou still have to do the campaign but it's significantly faster and should make it less of a slog. This still gives you a way to level without having to grind some event for 60+ levels and it still allows everyone to "feel the weight".
>>551907907>trying to offload your gayness to othersif french are known for something its sex. if usa is known for something its gay sex and obesity.
>>551909316i didnt mean gain as thoughever
>>551908051wtf
>>551909167>Ailments are best scaled by critin poe1. in poe2 crits don't automatically apply an ailment. plus you're thinking of a 1 button build. if you are using (say) stormcaller arrow to apply shock then a different skill to deal damage (like in that popular xbow build) you're not going to need to prioritize crit on SCA.
>>551909543your intellect is truly astounding
>>551909840Anon, I...
>>551909741>in poe1crit multi does nothing natively to ailments in poe1 retard. The best way to scale ailments in poe1 is with EOPoe2 takes the hit and crit multiplier into account natively when determining ailment damage.You literally have it backwards and are retarded.
>died with 4 prosthetics
>>551909316>within parity of one anotherwhat does this mean. a skill that is used in five different ways is not going to be used in "parity", nor is that the outcome of the game having genuine build variety. if you use pob and look at which version does the most dps its always going to give you one highest answer, which is why builders whine about lack of diversity. but pob not being the game has been a fact in poe1 for years too.
>>551909491what you're basically saying is that, yes, you know that you COULD use the poe2 atlas happily, but that in practice you will be worrying about whether you are "playing optimally" too much so you won't enjoy it.
>>551910019parity meaning similar performance. If I can voluntarily hamper myself by picking the wrong support gem, this is a false choice and not really an example of what you are talking about.I just hear a lot of cope coming from you
>>551910175There is nothing happy about having to run maps I hate
>>551908861>nd run them back to back without any troublewhy do you want to run maps if the gameplay is dogshit?
>>551909840what are you trying to prove here you brain broken degenerate muttoid
I'm actually mad that I bought into the drama, even without a snake the temple is already juicy. Wish I had build it up from the start. Can't wait to finally get a spymaster to actually get a snake going.
So what I've gathered is, during this early access period where GGG is not patching up holes in the game and leagues are going to be entirely determined by turbo autists... I should just play softcore trade but treat it more like SSF + Currency exchange. That way I can get the occasional divine drop, cash out for exalts, and buy the currency I am trying to use for crafting up my own gear. Sell everything to the vendors unless it's somehow a really good floor drop... And go about my merry way? Is this the answer?
>>551909840the french revolution was wildbiggest concentration of soijaks in history
>>551909968anon.... getting a crit in poe2 often doesn't do anything relevant in poe2 just because you do more damage. if you do 200% damage with SCA your shock is still going to be the same. that's important because it lets you set up your shock skill to do the most shocks the most reliably (not always by skilling into crit) and another skill for damage (possibly using crit for max pob dps). a similar case would be if you skill perfect strike around crit: your crit damage won't help you ignite as much as stacking flammability on the enemy with a different skill first. I notice you keep going back to general principles instead of trying to address the examples I'm giving. I suspect its because you think you know more about the game than you actually do.
>>551910537go hcssf
>>551910537>should just play softcore trade but treat it more like SSF + Currency exchange.So trade? Why are you desperately trying to slot in SSF there.
>>551910537You should not expect this to get handled any differently after early access.
>>551909968>crit multi does nothing natively to ailments in poe1 retardlol you're just changing the subject to try to avoid looking like a fucking retard. I didn't even mention crit multi. but since you raised it: skilling into crit chance vs crit multi is another two different ways you can set up a skill in poe2. some builds may benefit more from one than the other, or both. thanks!
>>551910676Well with the prices of good gear out of the reach of my 1 div/week slow dadgamer hands I figure I can't buy gear.
how did poe1 look this dogshit on announcement?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UG3642raQthis was 2010, we had the WoW graphics revamp in 2010, we had l4d2, we had starcraft 2, cod blops, asscreed brotherhood.what the fuck? it actually looks like diablo 2
>>551910883Who the fuck cares about graphics
>>551910537>cash out for exaltsYou should be keeping it in divs and trading on those pairs in bulk. Or at least chaos.
>>551910312>parity meaning similar performance.yeah so we're talking about different answers depending on how you set up your build: which skills you're going to be using, how and how often. i.e. not what you mean by parity.trust me its all in the game but you have to actually try to design a build with it instead of approaching the game with the goal of being a 1 button shitter.
>>551910548Are you retarded? I just explained it. Ailments in Poe2 take the hit damage of the skill into account including the crit damage bonus. Poe1 does not do this. Both games you need to scale ailment chance so this is a nonsequitur. And yes, a larger hit from a supplementary skill meant to apply a shock will apply A LARGER SHOCK if it crits. Are you daft?>perfect strikeYes crits would help perfect strike ignite because the magnitude of flammability is determined by the percentage of monster health taken as damage. A larger hit will increase flammability to a larger degree. Crits help with this.What are you not getting? Like how can i fucking help you bro, you seem retarded
>>551910537pretty much. your only other real choices are joining the autists that exploit early and exploit often since you have a 1% chance of being banned (unless it's something truly egregious like crashing servers to roll back bad crafting RNG, etc.) or just not playing at all. >>551910676retard
>>551910883not a lot of people played it back then anywayand yeah it obviously looks pretty bad
>>551910883>We had these games from other genres from Triple A studios>Why did this game made by 3 autists in their garage look bad???Why are 2rists like this? The competition at that point was Sacred 2 and Titan's Quest for graphics. Maybe Torchlight as well.
People blindly rejecting 0.4 was peak reddit cringe. It's the best patch yet.
>>551910789>this entire cope postholy retard
>>551910465>if the gameplay is dogshitwho said that?
>>551909840the revolution that was bigly inspired by the american revolution?
>>551911141nvke except we are sinking under dawn's line today
>>551910962>trust me its all in the game but you have to actually try to design a build with it instead of approaching the game with the goal of being a 1 button shitter.So presumably you've done this and can provide an example? So do it
lily looking really sexy today
>>551910953I do since faGGGot is terrible at optimizing them. mostly out of principle though desu
>>551911310why does he have boobs?
>>551911216except the US rejected monarchism for a constitutional republic, not fag socialism
>>551911141The servers going down on the first day and the graphical glitches and bugs really soured everyone's mood.
shoo fubcel polcels
holten exploiters are now doing the abyss exploityou will be poor forever. you will never buy an item again.
>>551911612because I am a hcssf gigachad
>>551911581>The servers going down on the first day and the graphical glitches and bugsThat's been their schtick for the past 4 leagues though.
>you will never buy an item againcorrect, i am playing hcssf
>>551911679who asked?
I have actually become crazy good at the new captchas on my phone. I don't even have to look at the last picture most of the time. Speedrunning this like tyty except I'm not trans
>>551911001I'm the one explaining the game to you anon. >Both games you need to scale ailment chance so this is a nonsequitur.in poe1 crit chance = ailment chance because crits apply ailments. so in poe2 you have a reason to use 1 skill to apply ailments (hence no advantage dealing crits) and another to apply damage. a skill like SCA can apply shock and you could do a 1 button build with it or >Yes crits would help perfect strike ignite because the magnitude of flammability is determined by the percentage of monster health taken as damage. A larger hit will increase flammability to a larger degree. Crits help with this.you don't understand how flammabilty works now lol the chance of igniting with a single hit caps out at 20% if you deal half the ailment threshold of the monster. why would I use a skill as clunky as perfect strike if I only have a 20% chance to ignite? crit is much less good at igniting than, uh, flammability. so you could skill crit or your can skill flammability or you can skill flat damage or something else (rage is really good now). plus once you've ignited the monster with a big hit, ignites can easily be made to last a really long time so there's no reason to just keep perfect striking the monster while it burns. better to switch to a different DPS skill. what skill? your choice. that's the sound of me winning the "there are multiple ways to build a single skill" debate btw.
>>551911612jokes on them and you. I haven't logged in for over a week and won't again until the next league
>>551911924YOU DO NOT SCALE CRIT CHANCE TO APPLY AILMENTS IN POE1 YOU DUMB RETARD. STOP IT. STOP
>>551911984retard
>>551911612>are now doing the abyss exploitQRD?
>>551910495you dont need a spymaster to start snaking, you can also do a commander chain and a synthflesh chain and just let it die naturally without using locks on them. that way you will get a lot medallions which will let you actually get the spymaster chain going when you find one. otherwise its very rng
>>551911984why would I scale ailment chance if I am going to get nearly 100% crit chance and inflict ailments anyway. this is in poe1 btw
>>551911974cute girl with boner bigly good
Do you even get enough crafting materials to actually make gear in SSF? Or are the SSFGods among us relying on pure slams and floor loot??
>>551911974>>551912280t.
FUBGUN THINKS IT WONT BE NERFED LMAOOOOOOO
>>551912382he's just saying that so he can create drama when its nerfed.
>>551912290yes, you do
>>551912290There's this thing called saving where you don't use all your currency immediately
>>551912226>why would I scale ailment chance if I am going to get nearly 100% crit chance and inflict ailments anyway. this is in poe1 btwWhy are poo2ers so fucking retarded?
>>551912579>poe1 sucks, there's no point in doing a crit build unless I get EA and perfect agonyhurr
>>551912290You get enough essences, greater trans/augs, and abyss currency to make really good 4-mod items. It's mostly just gambling perfect double exalts to finish them off, but you do not need more than 4 to do any content. Not really enough omens of light/whittles/fractures to really do that much with those
>everybody doing all these elaborate strats >meanwhile I'm just doing deli + breach with a kill monster = get loot mindset >still make over 1div per map Life's good.
>>551912579this nigga really thoughted people were using crit to apply damaging ailments
>>551912696you dont even know the words you are using. What the fuck is ea? You don't use EO with perfect agony that's two separate selections you fucking retard. 0.7% of all builds are using perfect agony, not 0.7% of ea builds whatever you think that is
Just fought king in mists with 50 petition shards for the first time ever. The fight was interesting but I had no idea what the fuck was going on. It just seemed like tornadoes, frogs, and purple on purple balls flying at me. I died once in the maze which I still don't understand. Why are the little blue wisps baiting me to go down the wrong way? I kind of hate GGG for how they design boss fights because they include a mechanic that has to be done or you die but don't make it clear how the mechanic is done. On the second time, I saw the portal out from one alley over and was able to escape the maze but the wisps did jack shit and I felt like I only found the way out because I got lucky. Did I miss some critical detail? I wanted to figure it out on my own but I have no idea how it even was supposed to work. I would hit a wisp, follow it, it would lead me down the wrong corridor and disappear. Anyway, I killed him and he dropped me ingenuity which I hadn't seen before. Is this a good belt or is it only good in certain circumstances?
>>551912791this. I tested abyss for like 3 days and switched over to irradiated+breach+deli and made like 150-200d per day just doing yolo alch vaal and go maps. people will always buy splinters and catalysts.
>>551912579you're just introducing cases beyond the original scope of the argument to try to move the goalposts. elemental overload, perfect agony and ignite prolif don't even exist in poe2 in the same forms so why are they relevant to a discussion of how poe2 is designed around enabling combos and build variety?
>>551912791people exploiting the vaal temple are making 10 raw divs + 40~ divs worth of other assets per temple run
>>551912791>farm mechanics that drop loot which cant be found in the temple>make moneyNOO REDDIT SAID THE ECONOMY IS RUINED THIS CANT BE HAPPENING
*does another temple run* :)
>>551913079how would it matter if their counterparts aren't present in poe2? I am presenting you objective information on how ailment builds are structured and function in poe1. They do not use crit for scaling for the VAST majority. Contend with that
>>551912980In the future when you get in the maze you can just log out and back in to skip the phase entirely
>>551913113post your headhunter
>>551913098its more like 20 raw div and 20d in other shityou are exploiting the temple yourself, right...? youre not just watching streamers do it?
>>551912972I don't care about poe1 anon. your knowledge of poe1 is irrelevant to me and is unrelated to the discussion. you said that crit was relevant to scaling ailment damage in poe2 as if it was comparable to poe1 and that was incorrect. feel free to call me a retard some more if you like this is not a discussion about build variety in poe1.
>>551913045>splinters and catalystsYeah, they sell like hotcakes. You run a few maps and suddenly you have like 3-4div worth of them + all the other shit you find.
>>551912980Ingenuity is still good, but not nearly the obvious BiS it was before the nerf. Mostly used for attack builds when they have high IIR/flat damage rings.
>>551913098>exploitingretard dadgamer, go protest on reddit
>>551912702I guess that makes some sense. I'm really new so the question was legit. I figured you definitely needed tons of omens to make it work. So based on my own experience so far, you just learn what good mods you can get off of the trans and aug orbs, then use an essence to get it rare, then greater/perfects to gamba on a good 4th stat? Or you could use abyss crafting I guess and try to get a good mod that way. I'm new idk I'm trying to figure it out.
>>551913198>how ailment builds are structured and function in poe1yeah the discussion wasn't about that lolits about how you can take a single poe2 skill and change its function by adding different support gems. you're basically making my argument for me by demonstrating that poe1 is entirely about dps, btw.like, what if I want to do an elemental overload build in poe1 but don't want to build crit? that option just means less damage and is pointless. oh dear, looks like poe2 is the more flexible game after all. now respond to my Perfect Strike example in >>551911924 or fuck off
>>551913316I just proved to you that it is not and you are still deflecting. I dont care that you dont care you are objectively wrong. Crit is far more valuable for scaling ailments in poe2 based on how the fucking mechanics work. Im done with this conversation now you are wrong and retarded
>if you get a good temple layout it must be an exploit because i can't understand it
>>551913292I stopped playing after the first week because it was boring and the economy was already ruined.
>>551913353you also get a shit ton of experience. people underestimate that part of the game in poe 2. once you have near perfect gear you get more character power out of a few extra levels than you could ever get from further gear upgrades.
>>551913648>i-its just a good temple layout, 30 rooms in a temple is intended!
>>551913237churbro
I wanna generate Cold Infusions automatically without Frost Bomb.What options do I have?
>>551913692economy is not ruined you pathetic retardgod you're dumb
>>551913614Basically what this anon said. It very clearly states that the magnitude of the ignite is dependent upon the damage of the hit. So crits = more damage = bigger ignite. And IIRC, ailments work much the same way: The more damage of that type you do, the bigger the magnitude of the chill/shock/bleed/poison. I'd have to go re-read the in game tooltips to be sure but I'm fairly certain that's how it works.
>>551913614>Crit is far more valuable for scaling ailments in poe2 based on how the fucking mechanics work.I've given two actual examples of why that isn't the case based on builds I've personally done. it's especially true in ssf (which I play) because you can't just outscale everything with raw damage by getting uber gear.
>>551913806>it's unintendedyeah that's why you get a huge grid, no hard resets and only limited deletion that follows simple rulesretard
Doomed status?
>>551913612also flammability magnitude has no single hit ceiling. You can reach 100% in one hit. Wrong again, retard
what did he mean by that
>>551914054as of right now only dad gamers are doomposting
>>551913806How many times is GGG going to design a mechanic, absolutely miss ways of it being broken and then people cry for it to get nerfed (it has to be shit)
>>551914010You are wrong. Plain and simple your examples are fucking wrong and you are a retard.
>>551913993>It very clearly states that the magnitude of the ignite is dependent upon the damage of the hitI already addressed this. respond to my perfect strike example here >>551911924reminder that the discussion is not about whether you can get higher pob dps with crit, the discussion is about whether skills can be built into different things.
>>551914279there is no flammability cap. You are wrong. And your example has nothing to do with the damage of the hit including the multi effecting the damage of the ailment
>>551914021>its intended broyou clearly do not have a temple set up yourself or you would realize just how fucking dumb it isif you press tab and it says "monsters have 2000% increased effectiveness", thats not intendedif you get a raw divine literally every decent room, thats not intendedjohnnytroon thought that players would only have a few good rooms for a lucky run or 2 and then they disappear again
>>551913893something involving a dark pattern>>551913954is that post suppose to make me rejoin the game or feel bad for being bored by the current state of affairs in the game?
rarity is deadeffectiveness is my new best friend
the jews are the reason path of exile is failing right now.
>>551914279>reminder that the discussion is not about whether you can get higher pob dps with crit, the discussion is about whether skills can be built into different things.No the discussion was literally you saying there were multiple support options for skills and many ways to build them with those supports. But you have still not demonstrated one example of this
The game is essentially an elaborate IQ test. If you can't find a way to stack divs it's not a problem with the game you're just an idiot.
>>551914531you need both thougheverbeit + player iir
>>551914416it is. jonathan thinks that the best farmer should be like 100x as efficient and get 100x more loot than the average or lower end of the spectrum. they made this mechanic exactly like this.the whole temple gets the bonus, and not just single rooms you either have all good rooms or no good rooms, there's no "single good rooms sometimes" (except for the vaal cultivation room, but that doesn't really scale with crazy temples)
>>551913893siphon elements, lil gup
>>551914526no, stay out. in fact, stay out forever. leave /poeg/ right now you butthurt dadgamer retard.
>>551914570you could say that about any game thoughbeit
>>551911924Where does it say anything about a 20% cap?
>>551914570post that opinion to reddit and see how that goes for you
>>551914661>there's no "single good rooms sometimeswhat are you yapping about? thats the point, the rooms are multiplicative. having 5 good rooms is not half as good as 10 good rooms, its way worse. woodful did not expect players to paint the entire board with rooms that multiply each other or he wouldnt have made them work like that
>>551914570then jonathan and the rest of niGGGer failed to design a good business model for making money. if it hinges on the general population being smart.
>>551914961you said>johnnytroon thought that players would only have a few good rooms for a lucky run or 2 and then they disappear againwhich implies you get " a few good rooms sometimes", but that can't happen. it's either all rooms are good, or no rooms are good.
>>551914245you're not engaging me on poe2 at all and have no arguments. >>551914085the confusion is because I'm talking from practical experience and you're just theorycrafting dps values. the ailment threshold of a monster is half its life. 1) if you skill into pure crit and deal half a monster's life in 1 hit you only get a 20% chance to ignite (its not reliable enough). 2) if you deal 100% of a monster's life you get 40% chance but the monster is dead so ailments aren't relevant anyway: you are outgearing the content. (this is why retards say there is only one way to build a skill). but you could just as easily outgear the content with flat damage or by using a skill to get ignite to 100% first then igniting with less gear. because poe2 has options and isn't just a dps game.
why don't we have dances anymore in game?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RINPCG89IbI
>>551915082weird, it worked on poe1.the mistake they made is going for the dad gamer audience with poo2
holy cringe
>>551915117you can deal damage in excess of a monsters ailment threshold retard. You can scale the magnitude of the flammability inflicted WHILE scaling crit, which is probably optimal in most cases. You literally have no idea what you are talking about
>>551914740I meant that if you deal the monster ailment threshold the chance to ignite from raw fire damage is 20%. hence the sentence continuing >if you deal the ailment threshold of the monster.the word "half" was also misplaced lol
>>551914823The biggest retards on the Internet disagreeing with you is like a badge of honour.
>>551915117>poe2 isn't just a dps game>faGGGot had to add another damage penalty to players so bosses don't blow up instantly in the first few seconds>poe.ninja leaderboard still ruled by 1-2 button screen-clearing nuke builds
>>551915434yeah but why optimize a build around a situation where you're already one-shotting everything? why would GGG "balance" the game around a situation where balance is irrelevant. if you have enough gear anything can be a 1-button build and the game is designed like that on purpose.
>>551915728then what do you grind for?
I don't get it. On one hand Jonathan tries to reign in player power like his life depends on it, but then they add items like this that completely trivialize the entire game.
>>551915906retard
>>551915434>more damage is more damage!!! easy there with the high-iq takes bro
>>551915906Mark is the one that does the skill balancing.
>>551915728You can just watch a youtube video of someone with a lot of currency and pretend that that's your account. Way cheaper and faster.
>>551915094"a few good rooms" means a small number ("a few") of rooms which multiplicatively scale loot ("good rooms").as opposed to a large number of "good rooms". do you understand, eslbro?
>>551915275you don't need to be smart to play poe1 at all. you just need enough of a functioning brain stem to follow build and crafting guides, and if browns/turd worlders can make a living wage off of poe1 then that's demonstrable proof you don't need to be smart to play.
>>551915906remember when they were aiming for 500k dps to be the ceiling
>>551916257you just need a large number of rooms, period. the single room is never "good" or "bad", it's just stacking a big amount of mods.
>>551915434>probably optimal in most casesyeah just not the perfect strike example I gave or the 2-button SCA + Shockburst bow/xbow build.
>>551916327>implying farming or crafting is harder in poo2 than it is in poe1they just attracted a more retarded audience than SEAniggers for poo2, that's all
>>551916408Fake news. Jonathan once said Arbiter 1 is balanced around the expectation of 50k dps when you first face him.
>>551915906>in poo1 you give up your weapon slot for broken gimmick>in poo2 everyone can get it in a gem slothe wasnt thingken
>>551915525trade league is always going to be about screen-clearing nuke builds because GGG intentionally designed the game so you can outscale everything with gear, for the reasons I've already gone into.
>>551916642Nothing about "a little bit more damage against some enemies" is broken in a game chock-full of damage tech where the premium stat is movement.
>Just discovered this, if you fail a map and you opened temple in that map you can travel back to your temple through waypoint then get back into the map to complete it. I got back into a tower map that I failed due to invulnerable abyss mobs, I was able to clear the map and not waste my grand project.jonathans spaghetti exposed in 8k lmao
>>551913893siphon elementsthe generator spender progression is kinda retarded>at the start you only have access to manual generation and have to slop it out>then you unlock siphon elements but still need to cast a generator for bossing and vs rares that require more spells to kill than siphon elements generates infusions for>eventually you become so powerful that you dont need to bother with infusions anymoreit was designed for act 1 pretty much
>run t15 waystone>4 mod>empowered boss>full clear>no replacement waystone
alright done crossbowwhats a faster and evenly comfy build i should start
>>551916572I think the biggest issue poe2 has is that ggg stopped leaking all the patch data a week before launch, and pob2 is also delayed and still very out of date in terms of what interactions have code yet. the meta ends up being what streamers feel safe to play and can get to 1/2-button screen clear ASAP, often with rmt'd gear, so its actually behind what is possible in the game.
>>551916742ssf is also screen-clearing nuke builds, the game is a joke
>>551916974poisonburst arrow pathfinder. thank me and fubgun later. you are welcome
>>551917146are you serious
>>551916408>>551916612jonathan also keeps saying the playerbase always beat their expectations.
>threw a tantrum and uninstalled poe2>have nothing to play now>life is boring
>>551917042>so its actually behind what is possible in the game.anon, GGG mandates what you can and can't do in poo2, there is no hidden secret tech. what you see in the trailers is what you're supposed to get, and anything that goes above that makes jonathan seethe.
>>551916572I'm not implying that in the slightest and the audience for poe2 is 90% poe1 players. the rest were people following streamers that were paid to play (like hololive and former vshojo whores) who left after their streamer did their sponsored obligations and new people genuinely interested but left after the first patch or two when they realized poe is genuinely an ass franchise.
>>551916928>>eventually you become so powerful that you dont need to bother with infusions anymorejonathan is figuring out how to subvert this step>navira's fracturing cannot be used without first using a cold infusion to create chilled ground
>>551917146They should kiss
>>551917350>the audience for poe2 is 90% poe1 playersyou are completely wrong here. most poe1 players reject the heaping pile of shit that is poo2, and most people who play it and pretend to enjoy it are not poe1 players.
>finally tried playing with a controller >instantly looting stuff with the press of a button>way smoother control while sprinting >soft auto aim I can NEVER go back bros. It's so much better it's unreal.
>>551917074>play monster killing game>use current meta shit instead of learning how the game mechanics work>complain because its too easy to kill monsters
poe2 needs anime
>>551917203I don't get how, every league it's the same shit. Play an attack build get a bunch of flat and a half decent weapon and you're doing 5mil dps, do the same with spells but it's gem levels.Without even getting into builds that actually have moving parts, the baseline for a basic character is going to obliterate everything in the game.
>make new game>put in lots of cute but useless interactions>this makes the development take x5 of what was initially planned>players ignore all of those interactions to just blastpottery
>>551916412you dont know how the temple works, stop getting your knowledge from twitch streams. the intended gameplay is this>use rooms like spymaster, commander, flesh lab and golem to get lock, upgrade and room medallions respectively>save up your medallions for the right moment>when you see a few of the poggers reward rooms that destabilize after collecting the reward, you place them down (using room medallions to assist), upgrade them with your upgrade medallion and finally use the destabilization prevention medallion so you can run them multiple times. thats the big poggers vision. and when you activate your "juice" (medallions), you also get a decent quant bonus on the temple. you run the temple, collect your vaal cultivator etc, protect it from its scripted destruction with the medallion and run it again. when you close the temple the second time you will probably have lost most of it. then you go through the same thing again.thats why theres a medallion cap of 6, its to limit how big that juiced run isafter the big boy run you are supposed to run the architect and his rooms while you stock up medallions for the next one
>>551917362You can create chilled ground by freezing with the frost nexus support or by using freezing chill with an ice crystal skill. There's also companions and some other shit I probably forgot about.
>>551916881> little bit more damagelmaaaaaaaaaaaao
Why there isn't dot or bleed/poison magnitude on items?
>>551917273nah. during the reveal for this league they specifically said they slow gameplay down for trailers. then they buffed druid (wolf I think) in the first main patch.
>>551917613>current meta shitAnon it's harder to find a skill that doesn't blow up screens of enemies, unless you intentionally build your character poorly.
>>551917706>"save up medallions">the limit is 6>they drop quite a lotyeah i dunno how you plan to save up bigly for a huge cum roon all at once, you're just inventing a scenario that isn't realistic
>>551917765It's precisely what it is, a little bit more damage.You're just used to playing shit builds that struggle with resistant mobs so you think it makes all the difference in the world.
>>551917362>jonathan is figuring out how to subvert this stepno its literally intentional and he's said as much. multi-skill combo design is to get you to the 1-button stage if that's what you want to do. personally I find that boring so I just reroll.
>>551917970lil bro no one gives a shit about what fubgun guide you're following this league
>>551915117NTA, but Im trying to understand here. Tooltip says that Flammability is based on the pre-mitigation fire damage dealt to the target vs the targets ailment threshold. Then, it grants 1% Flammability PER 5% of the enemy's ailment threshold. Ailment threshold as you said is usually half a monsters health, but not always like in the case of bosses. In a raw numbers world with no modifications, dealing a single hit that halved a monsters health would result in yes, a 20% chance to ignite with the hit. But I feel like that's discounting other factors. What if the monster is resistant to fire damage? The hit may overcome their threshold and ignite without the hit itself doing 50% damage. What if there's other things at play like passive nodes that grant exposure or increased ailment threshold? Again I'm trying to understand but it doesn't feel as cut and dry as you're making it.
>>551917504I think the poe1 v poe2 shitting here is mostly astroturfed by a rival company, because claiming that D4 or LE are serious competitors is no longer plausible.
>>551918196>astroturfedit's just shitposting retard
>>551917204get yourself a good autism game like dwarf fortress or rimworld>>551917504they "reject" it verbally but if they keep playing poe2 every patch hoping and waiting for it to be as palatable as poe1 then they're still poe2 players. also nobody only pretending to enjoy poe2 would actually play it? why would they? nobody is going to their house to verify they're actually playing the game or not. what kind of weird brownoid/zoomer cope is that?
Does that mean if i put extraction on dark effigy the totem will kill itself within 10 shots and then continue firing for 6 seconds?Or will it stop attacking and just linger for 6 seconds?
>>551918460this don't look like a stable, sustainable or even growing playerbase to me, tr/a/nny
Well, now that both PoE leagues are over, what do we do for another 3 months
>>551918131I don't play builds made by others. There's nothing OP about Rakiata's. It's a strong midgame support for ele builds and that's it. It's not the path to doing the most damage possible in POE2.It doesn't mechanically change how you move or how quickly you clear, it's just a DPS support in a game where no builds struggle with DPS.
I'm struggling in act 3 because my gear has 0 res, is it possible for me to just reset some easy campaign map and farm temples to get better gear?
>>551918602poe1 ruthless scion league on friday
>>551918165>discounting other factorsthat happened for both sides, partly because its hard to include every factor, partly because some autist decided he wanted to talk about poe1 when I was just giving an example of different ways you might set up skills and supports try to get a reliable ignite.>if the monster is resistant to fire damage?Fire Penetration II sets a monsters fire resistence to 0%. its a really great example of how situational the support system in poe2 actually is. you are incentivized to gemswap to kill fire resistent bosses in ssf, or you can just have the support in all the time, or you can do something else. >What if there's other things at play like passive nodes that grant exposure or increased ailment threshold?there often will be, which is why saying "there is only one way to set up each skill" is retarded. the bonus to flammability for fitting Ignite II support is really high, but you don't need to build flammability with the same skill you actually deliver the big ignite, because it stacks independently on a target.
i played one character to level 77 then quit this dogshit league, however, i now want to try exploiting the templeam i better off rolling a new character for this?
>>551918659You can complete all acts with 0 res, just fix your damage and dodge better, or spend 1ex to buy a good low level piece.
>sit at 74% fire res>only way to cap out res is to rebuy a headhunter with a fire res corruptiondid that at level 99 just to realize I never completed the +10 fire res quest in act 3. this game really needs a better quest reward tracker. wish I was making this up
>>551918601???????????????????????????????? yes? I know that already and pointed it out? what's your point?
>>551918659You can reset zones in the campaign up to 10 levels below you and still get temples, but the temples scale to your level so are going to be more challenging than just pushing through the campaign.
>>551918835>exploiting the templeou are about 8ish hours to latethat shit got fixed
>>551918869so we're gonna pretend the streamers who get paid and puppets like talkativetranny enjoy poo2 and aren't just getting the bag?
>>551918602finally tackle your steam backlog
>>551908276Same honestly, the setting looks interesting but a jrpg with timing based combat eehhh
>>551918659generally in the campaign the solution is to get a better weapon. if you already did act 4 in an earlier league and aren't in ssf you may as well just buy one.
>>551912363I thought HRT fixed your baldness.
>>551917863thats the point, the big run isnt supposed to be that big. you can get like a full set of thaumaturge + alch + corruption chamber or something, upgrade them to lvl 3 and run them a few times. maybe you get lucky and after running it once you get even more synergistic rooms or lock medallions. jonathan 100% thought that when a room says it destabilizes on collecting the reward, its gone unless you use the medallion which saves it. with that in mind everything makes a lot more sense.
>>551917706you put the rooms that destabilize inside a branch chain that can't destabilize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3GfYYtr9v4What is your excuse?
>>551918797fuck I meant Ignite III
>>551885156But Mathil told me prices don't change over the course of a league?
>>551919095?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????>he rest were people following streamers that were paid to play (like hololive and former vshojo whores) who left after their streamer did their sponsored obligations...are you okay?
Why aren't you parrying right now
>>551919581>What is your excuse?I had to take a shit
>>551919095streamers will never like poe2 as much because it isn't designed around HCSSF being reliably survivable with the right risk mitigation.
>>551918861>>551918923>>551919421Well then maybe my weapon is bad, I don't have a good frame of reference for this game though. I'm playing a warrior and I can barely get attacks off before my HP starts melting. I played a lot of POE 1 and in this situation there I would just run purity of elements or take some res nodes in the skill tree but it seems like those kinds of options don't exist in POE 2...
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>>551919853What attacks are you using? Meme shit like supercharged slam is just unplayable regardless
>>551919573yeah thats not how its supposed to work THOUGHtheres a reason it says "destabilizes when you collect the item" instead of "destabilizes when you collect the item unless theres another room behind it because that honestly makes no sense at all design wise
>>551919747most poe streamers don't do hc and/or ssf>BUT X DOES HC/SSF/HCSSFand? they ain't most poe streamers. regardless poe2 has its own batch of streamers alongside the old standbys like ziz and pohx etc.
>>551919853its not actually you, act 3 is where it gets harder to stack more damage just from the passive tree. we've had 3 leagues of people complaining about it being too hard/slow, yet currently the speedrun record for the whole campaign is like 4 hours. I'd actually try to enjoy struggling on your first playthrough before you just trade your way to maps in subsequent leagues or become an ssfchad.
>>551919980>Stash updates>Lady on the cover's look is replicatable>Remember D2???>1.3.0 on JanuaryThanks Crate.
I also have 71% less movement speed penalty and being immune to any kind of slows and temp chain and even with that it feels like I need at least another 100% ms. something is wrong with the game
>>551920131mathil is an exception but it was very much the standard for the big streamers in poe1. ziz has spent most of poe2's lifespan complaining endlessly about it.
>>551920329h-hes fasthow?
>>551919553so why would they even give you the means to make it big? big board, ways to prevent deletion, chain-locks, etc?
>>551920484I would rather not tell I know for a fact that some of the faggy ggg devs read this shithole of board from time to time. I have seen their stupid discord messages.
>>551920109>Meme shit like supercharged slam is just unplayable regardlessits probably built around speccing into slams endgame in a way that streamers can't be bothered to figure out / ggg didn't bother to balance yet / gets outperformed by something simpler.
>>551919853Yeah 2H mace is painfully slow. If you're level 45 g buy a tidebreaker for 1ex and enjoy deleting doryani, he wont even get to play.
>>551913229
>>551920196how is ssf related to being a chad? playing ssf is conceding you have failed in leading, let alone competing, in the rat race but aren't brave enough to just walk away from the game>b-but by not competing in the first place ____"doesn't matter. you're not being smarter by cucking yourself into playing the worst version of the game.
>>551919683Streamers are getting paid to play via the "subscription for portal" and drops promotion too, as well as the #ad campaign to boot. Nobody even brought up retarded vtubers.And they pretend to like the game because why the fuck would you shit on the thing that gets you paid.
>>551918797Huh.So you could overcome the ailment threshold by quite a lot dependent on the monster's conditions. Since we're kinda talking about a situation where you want the hit to be the ignite, to make it reliable it would need to overcome the ailment threshold roughly 5 times over. I think that's doable with some automation, gems, and passive nodes. Your point still stands about not needing to build this way though, as it'd be much easier to just have your clear skill do fuck tons of Flammability buildup and then just bonk the high HP target once the buildup reaches 100%
>>551920813?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? yes? duh? why are you rephasing something I already said?
>>551919853as you only started playing its complicated but there is the option to use 1h mace and shield for some skills and 2h mace for others. generally bosses can be 2h'd safely but a shield makes it less painful to run to the next waypoint through regular monsters (also known as poe2's real final boss)
>hh = 50d>1d = 4~ white belts>chance to chance orb a hh is 1:200why do people even bother buying white belts
>>551921239gambling is a serious problem
Is there anything that can shorten the distance of a skill's effect like glacial cascade?
I have literally no fucking idea how to make currency in this gameI'm running tier 16 with 3 tablets stacked with rarity/effectiveness and I'm making no currency at allis it temple or crafting only?
>>551912980the wisps only ever lead you towards the correct path
>>551921239Gamblers are built different. Back when Astramentis was the universal chase item, people were buying white stellars for 2-3x the expected roi.
>>551921496no. there's also abusing abyss still
>>551921519not really since you need to factor in the 200 chance orbs also the time it takes to buy these items. by the time you bought all the belts you would have made a few divs doing maps.
>>551921713but how
>>551921496ritual good
>>551920567the big board is supposed to be a detriment. >atziri is directly across the start>architect and his reward rooms are always in the corner notice how roads cant turn? and did you know that tiles in the center are more likely to get destabilized? its so those rooms are harder to access.another fun fact: it used to be impossible for rooms to connect to the architect. they didnt even consider snaking rooms like that, the intended gameplay is using roads for everything.>The Architect's room is now able to connect to any other adjacent room.lock medallions are supposed to be a one time destabilization prevention which lets you run a juicy reward room another time, not protect a chain of 50 rooms.
>>551920969>to make it reliable it would need to overcome the ailment threshold roughly 5 times over.you don't need to do it in a single hit because flammability stacks and each stack lasts 8 seconds. I'll just describe my build: tree 1: 2h fire damage, empowered/ancestral damage and warcries, I use warcry then volcanic fissure.tree 2: 1h, totems and armour break, I drop 3 totems in 0.6 seconds which end up slamming the fissure every 0.2 seconds (because totem placement time is 0.2) repeating the 2h mace damage. it supposedly snapshots the flammability bonuses from the first tree. vs bosses I then perfect strike them once they reach 100% flammability. then when the boss is on fire I just smack it repeatedly with Forge Hammer to keep my Rage maxed. vol fissure has Ignite III, perfect strike has Searing Flame II and Eternal Flame II. working well enough that my main problem is defenses. also its a Merc build so I have 100 weapon set points.
>>551921924I donno~ you should look up a guide on making currency with abyss on youtube, friend
>>551920109I'm putting fissures on the ground with the volcanic fissure and forge hammer and then making them explode with sunder and sometimes shockwave totem. Supercharged slam looked cool as fuck but I could never get the timing on perfect strike to feel right so I figured a bigger version would be bad for me.>>551920196Fair enough. It definitely feels harder but I assumed the spike was because every shitty vaal NPC was throwing random flavors of magic attacks at me and my res is nonexistent.>>551920745That's funny, I figured someone might recommend that I buy a unique but I assumed it would be some busted leveling armor, not a weapon. I'll shop around I guess, I've gotten 20 exalts just from playing so far so I might as well spend them.
>>551921940not as long as the temple exists as it is currently
good times
>>551921496dont bother trying to farm shit that drops in the temple. a single temple room drops more raw currency than a juiced map and you clear that room in like 10 seconds. just killing monsters in a map is a waste of a time this league but you will make a lot of money farming mechanic exclusive items>abyss currency and omens>abyss heart of the well farm>breach catalysts, rings and splinters maybe>ritual probably not as much its kinda shit unless someone uses 1000 whittling omens for a mirror craft>delirium for oilssanctum is also insane profit cause temporalis is the new streamer build. you dont have to find the temporalis relic yourself, you can also sell magic relics for a lot to aspiring sanctum farmers.
>>551921979you really like inventing cases in which it makes sense.the way more logical way this all fits is that they want you to build a big temple.
>>551922624Have fun, anon.
>see "tanky life build" gameplay>random map rares chunking the character for over 80% of their life constantlyyeah.tanky.
>>551921979so why not limit the rooms you can put down in total? sounds like that would have been an easy shoe-in if they want your temples to stay small
I don't understand what is so good about Bloodmage...
>>551905552Yes, it is entirely this. He literally said in PoE1 "Yeah, I have to be positive because this is my job and if people stop watching or hate the game I am fucked" so listening to him straight up lie to people about the economy is terrible.No farm has kept up with temples. You cannot find a corner. You cannot find a niche. Materials will never be as good as Raw Divines.That is like saying my job is better than yours because they pay me in gold bullion that I have to sell to dollars to pay my electric bill, and this other guy's job pays him more money directly in $100 bills just left everywhere he can pick up. The Temple prints too many raw divines and perfect exalts. Doing ritual and getting an omen worth 2-3 div can take like 5-10 maps, meanwhile if you set up your temple 6 maps = 10-15 divines.
>>551922994do you really think that jonathan wants you to drop over a hundred raw divines in a hour? the samw jonathan that "bug fixed" the abyss tablet farm earlier this league?
>>551923218read the ascendancy nodes
>>551923084Yeah, my blood mage has 8k life when fully buffed up and she might has well have 800 life. Things are dead or killing me.
>>551922624poe2 is more gear-dependent than poe1 and that annoys people who want to just get to the endgame and get a specific amount of currency per hour. but it has the effect of making the campaign teach the item system which is probably worth it. there are definitely bosses which are less dangerous with high specific resistances (especially lightning and fire) so its worth hording resist gear, you're not doing something wrong caring about it.
>>551923240play ssf retard
Can 100 divines even get a decent starter build anymore
>>551923248Yeah and I don't understand what is so good about themYou literally ACK! yourself with your own spells
>xhe plays in a tr*de league
>>551923378The answer to niGGGers fucking up the game and economy isn't just "uhm g-go ssf and h-hide there"
>>551923395retard
>>551923218Yeah anon, I don't know why getting free crit chance, crit damage, damage reduction, extra life, elemental damage can bleed, I can leech life from my spells.. yeah I dunno do this looks like shit...
>>551923418Read all of them, not just the first node.
>>551923497hide from what?
>>551923634Jonathan's retardation
>>551923084>>551923328>he doesn't press the tanky dodgeroll button
>>551923634hide his girlfriend's eyes from catching a glimpse fubgun's massive girthy temple snake
>>551923583>free
>>551923698elaborate
2 excrement of poop
>>551923727>dodge roll away>the 5 giga abyss rares are already on top of you again
>>551923395Well, I think the problem is that Mathil and the PoE2 community are both right.>Economy IS Fucked up>High tier upgrades and rare uniques are now prohibitively expensive>Rest of the economy has not caught up, saying so is an objective lie>However, great "starter" gear that can clear almost all content is cheap as fuck>A few raw div drops converted into exalt will fill all of your gear slots with stuff that is good enough to kill arbiter because PoE2 has no end game contentSo yeah, I mean, anyone saying the economy is ruined IS right but I think those people need to actually examine what they want to buy to actually do in the game because that realization made me stop for now. I beat everything already.
>>551923218Sanguimancy + Blood Magic makes spells cost double life, which you convert into bongo damage with some lineage gem that scales spell damage from life costs.Spell damage leeched as life + life remnants really help sustain the crazy spell costs.The 15% crit base is a massive effective multiplier for some spells, it helps enable CoC builds.
>>551923497>hide >in poe2 SSFmore like embrace smashing your face into a wall of difficulty that you didn't even know existed.
>>551923214if snaking doesnt prevent destabilization, the temples stay small. its supposed to be a natural balance kind of thing>4-6 rooms get deleted per run>you can place up to 6 rooms per run but some of them arent that good, plus a medallion here and there>the intended best rooms self destruct at the end of a run>some other rooms also destroy rooms, the spymaster kills 2 other spymasters to level up to 3 and the sacrifice room destroys 2 arbitrary rooms to level up to 3>killing the architect or atziri destroys most of your boardif you never do anything that would destabilize a room and place as many rooms as possible, you will very slowly grow the temple, but it will shrink back down if you do the mechanic as intended.
>>551923790>Your spells now cost a bit of life>When you're constantly refilling life from globes that put you at 150% life or you're life stealingRemnants was always a huge buff but was just bad at like level 30 when you ascended.
>>551923240Why do none of the other streamers have any trouble being whiny bitches, anon? Why are you so butthurt about somebody not doomspiraling with you? Can't you even cry about how everything is over without a streamer ruining your fun?
JONATROON
>>551923974Streamers need to stop giving incorrect opinions to people in the off chance that GGG listens to them. Thankfully, the temple bullshit is so out of line that it will get quadruple tapped in 0.5, until then this lame duck endgame can go wallow in its own filth.
poo2 big shit
>>551923395you can buy a headhunter for 50d and good rares or build enabling uniques dor a few divines each
>>551923929Ah so you can get actual benefits from the fact that you constantly lose crazy hp when casting? Hmmm...
>>551923378what does that have to do with anything, let alone anything being discussed? it won't circumvent the notion that streamers like mathil make statements based on self-interest rather than substantiated opinions let along empirical truths.
>fracturing orb is 1000 exalted orbs
>>551924151>Streamers need to stop giving incorrect opinions to people in the off chance that GGG listens to them.Correct.However, the streamers that are doomers give the worst suggestions. See: Ziz
>>551923863I have no idea how to build bloodmage but ggg have clearly designed the game to counter the shit out of glass cannons so I'm going to victim-blame you sorry. get more uhhh lifesteal or something you idiot!
>>551924324You can just go farm them anon!
>>551923395~10 div per gear slot?Easily.
Mathil defending the temple is objectively wrong and it will be an objectively wrong opinion when it gets nerfed.I don't know why he has taken the position "The temple is a good thing, actually" like some kind of weirdo shill.
>>551924298>what does that have to do with anything, let alone anything being discussed?>You cannot find a corner. You cannot find a niche. Materials will never be as good as Raw Divines.
>>551923218literally FREE 15% crit. pob warriors literally think crit is the only stat that matters in the game. never mind that spells already have higher than the 5% base crit chance (cold are all 12%), getting 15% base crit chance means dps go up.
>>551923328get a heart of the well with instant leech and use a spell like spark that hits frequently. you heal back to full multiple times a second
>>551923247i never said that, i think they fucked up and didn't do any kind of math or testing like always
>>551924614The problem is not sustain the problem is one taps or dying to a shotgun (basically a one tap). If a boss does not one shot my bloodmage I can face tank everything with Acuity's instant leech, I have 100% crit chance.
>>551924557???????????????????????????????????
>>551924151my theory is that temple only started out bad because GGG wanted to data gather on the economy without it for a few days. it's not like making [current league mechanic] worth doing is hard.
>>551919348My choices are total warhammer 3 or cyberpunk. But now you got me thinking about it I'm actually in the mood for some comfy point & click mysteries.
GRIMRIM
>Make a videogame where one of the most needed item is literally useless and it's just used as a currencygreat design
>>551924271It needs a bit of investment to work (about 10-20d when I built CoC bm last league) but then gets very silly very fast. There's also a mandatory abyss jewel that makes you regen 100% of life you spend, so the bizarre life costs turn into a super powerful 5000 hp regen. Then some other life based uniques put you at like 4k life, crit chance and crit damage based on max life, and you still get thousands of ES, dont have to build any ES recharge because of the life regen works on ES keystone...I know the game is always easy with medium cost builds but this really felt like god mode. I could trip in an abyss and just get up like nothing happened because of the 4k life regen.
>>551924747working as intended, more EHP required. doesn't DM have a 12k life warrior or something?
>>551924326
>>551924636i mean if you go in with the assumption that you can have 80 rooms of your choice in the temple at once, you realize that you can get for example 10 rooms with 60% monster effectiveness which is multiplied by 3x from 10 rooms that multiply them by 30%. thats 1800% increased quantity of items, ignoring everything else in the temple. it doesnt take a genius to realize thats not balanced. theres no way that was the intention
>>551924784i bought cyberpunk during the sale, it's great
>>551924751Reading comprehension: south sudan
>>551924883>ssf existsyou must learn the joy of exalt-slamming your way to a better weapon in act 3.
>>551924883The game has no economy. That is the hilarious part.Divines are only used as currency cause of PoE1. In PoE1 it was organically decided that chaos would be the main trade currency and that exalts would be the rare expensive currency. This was due to chaos being used for map stuff and exalts being used for meta crafting which back then was just as important. You know how you know it is a real economy? When GGG changed meta mods to require divines the economy switched over to using those with minimal pain. That is because the value was based on tier + usability.Divines in PoE2 are just "Well, we physically could not trade 20,000 exalts for items so I guess we'll just agree divines are good)
>>551922164>has the opportunity to spam all this shit on a boss and it's not dead>thinks this is a good buildretard
>>551924914i really dont understand their philosophy of letting bloodmage builds recover that fucking much. wasnt the idea that recovery in poe2 is hard to come by? something about attrition based boss fights? most builds cant even access leech but then its like alright fuck it, bloodmage or any caster with covenant can recover infinite hp if they want to with no downside.
>>551925358boss fights in poe2 are about oneshots
>Poo1>Exploit found to print Magebloods, divines, etc>All with a player base that is far more cutthroat>Within just a day all of the excess quantity is absorbed. Excess MBs are double corrupted, cheap divines were used with meta crafting until price stabilized>Economy is totally fine>Poo2>"Exploit" found to print divines>Economy enters hyper-inflation past the point of no return, nothing can be done, SSF or bust and wait for 0.5, exalts climbing towards 500+ for a div, people hiding exalts on their filters, etcPoo2 needs a real economy. Poo2 needs a real end game. Poo2 needs to actually get fucking finished.
>>551924324first league, huh?
>>551925358>wasnt the idea that recovery in poe2 is hard to come by? something about attrition based boss fights?No, when asked during an interview, Jonathan said that would not be as fun.
>>551925309it's really good for the items I have yeah. played ssf every league, its outperforming LA/LR. fyi.
>>551924790Darkness should scale off overcapped chaos res
>>551923974NTA but what do you mean other streamers don't get any trouble for being whiny bitches? people shit on streamers like ziz, rue, etc. for having bad takes or being asshole all the time. this is a strawman and not a very good one.>Why are you so butthurt about somebody not doomspiraling with you? Can't you even cry about how everything is over without a streamer ruining your funagain NTA but (poe) streamers don't ruin my fun because I don't watch nor listen to their opinions, but even if I did they aren't the root of it. jonathan/niGGGer is the root of poe1/poe2 not being fun. even if they listen to streamers and their shitty takes it's still jonathan and niGGGer electing to listen to them in the first place.
>>551925423originally they werent supposed to bethe game is supposed to be like the count and jamanra fights where you can actually run out of life flasks on a balanced build with meh gear
>>551924324Exalted orbs are useless. Have been useless. Will be useless in the future unless something changes.
>>551924982The same devs also just didn't math out the infinite reroll tablet or titans getting 100% reduced duration on treeI think they're just retarded and stretched so thin they can't even catch basic shit before it's pushed out
>>551925358>waah bloodmage isn't good enough>waah bloodmage is too goodsounds balanced to me
>>551925358Lol, I guess. GGG are completely schizo though.
I'm very new, never played POE1. I only played POE2 on campaign launch.What exactly is the intention with leagues? I started a new character to play the league but for awhile I've just been redoing the campaign. Does each league just make you redo the campaign no changes...? Am I missing something?
>>551925097I never played trade but i imagine people are using some exalt on items, but divines? I'm sure no one in trade will ever use them for slamming.
every time I stop to pick up an exalt I lose more than I gain by picking it up. really makes you think
>>551925808You should be seeing the temple stuff in the campaign which changes it up, but yes you need to redo the campaign each league.This is contentious in the playerbase because PoE2's campaign is harder/longer (that is what she said) than PoE1's. PoE1's campaign, which has to be repeated each league, can be done on a totally fresh account in like 6-8 hours for even a relatively new player.I feel like PoE2's campaign is gonna be ~12 hours for most people, with the good players getting it down to 7-8 and then actual speed runners are at like 4ish, right?
>>551925358It requires the abyss jewel and uniques can't you fucking read? it's not free
>>551925061then explain, with your estimation of me being on par with somebody with an average IQ of 65, what all that green text has to do with the discussion at hand, let alone proving any kind of point.
>>551925985You're way underestimating how long a genuinely new player takes to finish the poe1 campaign
what went wrong?
>>551925808Yeah, that's the lifecycle of ARPGs. It's a fun way to fresh start in a new economy and a new build. You play until you're satisfied, then come back in a league or two.
>>551925808nowelcome to arpgs
>>551925730>The same devs also just didn't math out the infinite reroll tabletyou know what, i take back everything i said. i gave ggg too much credit>the same ceo also just didnt math out that 0 poe1 developers make 0 progress on 3.26
>>551925985>I feel like PoE2's campaign is gonna be ~12 hours for most people,Is there some way people are using previous runs to speed it up? I'm following a build guide this time but some of the random bosses are a bit tough. I'm not like 1 shotting bosses. Does it expect me to be using loot from previous runs from my stash? I might just suck though.
>>551925635that is what its like in the campaign if you hit a gear drought or use a suboptimal build or just get underlevelled. hard to make the game both playable for new players and also a challenge to autists using a streamer build who've done act 1 30 times this year. endgame needs to be at least vaguely doable in ssf even if the game will never be balanced around that. but trade will always make things too easy if you get good items for your currency. those are basically the constraints of any arpg and GGG can't do anything about them.
On that temple cheat cheat, what the fuck is this supposed to mean?
>>551926091now imagine that same player trying to slog through poe2's campaign.
>>551925808Leagues add a new mechanic and give you the opportunity of starting over fresh, which is desirable, because at some point you have everything and can do everything at which point things get a bit stale.
>>551925808>What exactly is the intention with leagues?it's a seasonal reset with new things to do>Does each league just make you redo the campaign?yes>Am I missing something?you're suppose to encounter the new league mechanic which is the vaal temple this league
The temple should just nuke random rooms. Fully random. Did it brick your temple because it removed your main corridor? Though shit, reset and run more.
>>551926282I used to have these turtle toys as a kid. thought this might be an interesting thing to post here.
>>551925838I've used divines to reroll the implicits on resist rings in SSF. it felt *really* dirty. >>551925808every campaign playthrough should be different because you get different items, will normally not use the same build, and the league mechanic in every map is different every league. plus all the layouts and content is random. resetting from 0 is the basis of ARPGs and why they're not the same as MMOs.
>>551926123the pattern wasn't dark enough
>>551926184If you play more than one character you can use gear from them. A twink run is way faster as you constantly have the highest MS boots and some random rare weapon that does one shot everything.>>551926091Sure, but then I am also underestimating it for PoE2.I am going by my own metrics where in PoE1 I am usually completing the campaign in ~8 hours (in one sitting comfortably) and in PoE2 I usually struggle to beat the interludes before I stop for the night on the first day.
>>551926014nigga please the 1 mod abyss jewel is free, both in terms of opportunity cost and price.the covenant is actually extremely good in terms of opportunity cost because it lets you lifetap all your shit, which lets you use mana as a massive defensive layer with minimal investment in mana sustain or cost. all you need is 30 spirit for mana remnants and you get thousands of extra dark blue life which also scales archmage damage. the item itself is cheap for a bad version which lets you get started on the build but you do need to shell out 50-100d for one with spell leech and no extra cost so i will give you that
>>551883315What's confusing about it?
>>551926282The campaign gap with experience is smaller in 2 than it is in 1. A new player to poe1 isn't going to be frostblink/shield charging. There are fewer totally optional areas that a veteran would skip to save time. Gearing is much easier without support gem slots. 2 also has much fewer side mechanics like Bestiary/Delve going on to sidetrack someone from the campaign.
>>551924982you are implying ggg did any actual planning or modeling of the temple, they just made a bunch of rules, made it needlessly large to fuck with players and let it rip
>you can only place X amount of rooms in your temple before you can run it or sell itor>previous room starts to collapse after X amount of rooms are placed
>>551926697You know, it's kind of nice not having 50 retard npcs harassing you about old league mechanics every act. Maybe not everything should be cored.
>>551926253useful room chains but the spymaster one doesnt work without using some fuckery that is extremely painful to set up, you need to have an armory + garrison (body armor + flag) inbetween spymaster + garrison.
>>551926282poe2's campaign is very good, you normally aren't actually going to want to skip it first time.
>>551927023Sub 90IQ GGGjeets should learn from you.
>>551927023the solution is far simpler>rooms can be destabilized even if a room is behind themtemple gone
>>551926979>>551924982ggg will just datamine the server and design diminishing returns for next league, and it'll be more effective than trying to design the perfect solution for something that complicated in advance.
>>551927003>>551927003>>551927003>>551927003
>>551927086I've been trying for 3 days to get the snake started to no avail.
>>551926697Yeah in poe1 i did some delve, heist and betrial while doing the campaign but i had no idea what the fuck i was doing.
>>551910495>even without a snake the temple is already juicy. >24% increased number of rare monsters>19% increased rarity of items
>>551920705good call
