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New Years Edition
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>Story trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ULiusPxQG4

>Character banners

[12/25-1/22] Justine & Caroline 5*, Riko Tanemura 4*, Toshiya Sumi 4*, Yukimi Fujikawa 4*

[12/28-1/22] CHOICE OF: Ren Amamiya 5*, Yusuke Kitagawa 5*, Makoto Niijima 5*, Yui 5*, Yumi Shiina 5*

>Weapon banners

[12/25-1/22] Warden's Judgement (Justine & Caroline-exclusive) 5*, Deliverance of Strength (Justine & Caroline-exclusive) 4*, Moonlight Needle (Riko Tanemura-exclusive) 4*, Scarlet Scepter (Toshiya Sumi-exclusive) 4*, Heavy Metal Pain (Yukimi Fujikawa-exclusive) 4*

[12/28-1/22] CHOICE OF: Phoenix Dagger (Ren Amamiya-exclusive) 5*, Shadowkiller (Yusuke Kitagawa-exclusive) 5*, Nuclear Finisher (Makoto Nijima-exclusive) 5*, Cyber Jammers (Yui-exclusive) 5*, Moonlit Feather (Yumi Shiina-exclusive) 5*

>Current events
[lasts 30 days after account creation] Take Your Heart
[12/25-1/22] Crossroads of Fate: Twins Arc
[12/25-2/5] Half-Year Anniversary Event

>Guides and resources
Character building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Synergy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbV0OY_6K579nxUa5FuDcOkbxDc1VJD5ejjq3dkuELs
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo

>Chat Emoji PNGs
https://mega.nz/folder/zZUkSRID#UHs3AK6fB-rnNy8S3mWKgw

>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Four Chins - 100055671

General Chat Channel #624
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I love my wife, Nishimori Haruna
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>>552225723
If they released it as a single player game, with or without gameplay changes, they'd get a lot of people double dipping to get it back and the interest of people who don't like gacha games but are interested in Persona (I know a number of friends like this saying they'll check out the story on YouTube eventually).

If they reworked it into a single player game, I could see stuff like Idols being unlocked through Synergy, Crossroads of Fate included directly into the main story to unlock P5 classic characters, etc. And if we're even luckier, they could rebalance 4 star characters, though this last one isn't likely.
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>>552226584
Motoha is so cute its unreal
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>>552227092
this but tomoko
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>>552227271
We love Persona waifus here

Also I love my wife Tomoko
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>>552227271
Definitely not Tomoko. She's ugly
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>>552227524
Based
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>>552226584
Why were the grannies invited to the high schooler party?
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saving for titsuru
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>>552227636
Truth nuke
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>>552226681
We know, antiTomoko schizo
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>>552228879
Lmao
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Wardens + BUI is a lot of fun.
You get so many follow-ups it’s nuts. It’s … probably not worth using Joker as well to get his extra-turn shenanigans for even more, but like idk that sounds fun too
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I love Persona
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Our fuarking hero
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>>552232339
yaoi hands
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>>552227524
Based
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everyone is making fun of wonder bros... https://x.com/Atlus_West/status/2006382110085636555/
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>>552232838
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>>552232339
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>>552232838
Increasingly nervous man laughing
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>>552233274
bigger
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>>552232339
Wonder as his girlfriend Motoha. And their pet Owl
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>>552232838
like femc is any better, at least wonder game made more money than all of them combined except jonklar
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>>552233759
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>>552232838
Wonder is more relevant than the P1 and 2 protagonists and the FeMC, so they're just coping
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Where's my NC sun badge on the season badge panel? Also why doesn't this season panel have the moon one slot?
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what are the chances they add femc to p5x
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>>552235836
Greater than 0, but not guaranteed. Since she doesn't have a P3R model and such to work with.
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Yoshi. I maxed out Dionysus and Dominion. Which person should I max overclock next (not counting the ones you need to spend the fancy tier IV coins to get)?
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>>552235836
If they were going to do it you'd think it would be there from the start. Feels like it makes sense for this game, especially appealing to women for femc/male relationships.
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>>552236714
Norn for shields and a source of windswept
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>>552236714
Alice if you use Joker
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>>552236969
oh and also some defence reduction
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>>552236969
Done. Thx.
>>552237123
I rarely use Joker, but this seems to make sense as the next one to max.
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would you kiss wonder?
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>>552235836
Zero. She's unpopular outside of loud western trannies and doesn't have a high quality 3d model they can recycle
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>>552230749
I appreciate the follow-up
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Why doesn't Nagisa fuck the shit out of her? She wants him really bad.
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>>552241453
Do you really think she just comes over to your empty house only to show you "mocktails"?
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>>552236714
Surt if you haven’t already
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>>552242571
Surt overclock doesn't improve his marakunda effect.
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>see this
wat do
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>>552243226
Skip
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>>552236714
Pazuzu for sepia memes
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>>552226584
Anyone got the full sized picture of this
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>>552246489
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>>552246921
>Xmas
Satanic developers, will never play this shit.
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>>552247215
You said that last time.
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>>552246921
Based and thank you
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I still don't get why the regular Persona thread is tsundere towards 5X, but they're also the same kind of people who think SMT and Persona aren't the same thing and should totally be separate threads so nothing makes sense anyway
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>why is a general autistic and retarded
truly a mystery for the ages
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>another psy boss
lmao imagine those who didn't pull for s. Tomoko actually bricked for months
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>>552247719
they should be separate threads retard.
95% of the people who play one don't play the other.
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>>552248279
I pulled for her because I love her. The only way she’ll ever leave my main group is when we get another 5-star Tomoko
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>>552248279
s.moko was replaced by the twins though
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>>552247719
>I still don't get why the regular Persona thread is tsundere towards 5X
I haven't gone there yet but I imagine they're seething about Wonder being counted as a Persona protag
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>>552250957
considering they don't even know the names of the p1-2 protags that's kinda funny
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>>552251046
Some people see "gacha" and immediately write it off regardless of any potential quality, so it being taken seriously upsets them.

Which, Japanese studios don't care if the West doesn't like them. Obviously the profits of them play a part of it, but I've seen a number of different studios put a number of serious materials meant to be taken as part of the setting, both for anime and games. Considering 5X's success, it shouldn't be a surprise Atlus and Sega count it as part of the series.

With any luck, Wonder and the 5X cast can end up in actual games for some crossovers.
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>>552250957
>Wonder replaced the trinity soul MC
LMAO
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I’m gonna make it right
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>>552235212
The update is kinda broken on the visual aspect.
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Why are Curse and Nuke Idols so limited or fucked?
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>>552252386
>limited or fucked
wut
The 4 star curse and nuke people are all pretty solid, and Ching-Chong Sucky-Sucky is good too
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>>552246921
where's shun
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>>552254263
Trapped and betrayed in the envelope.
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On the one hand twins A1 are really good, on the other hand they make all those ST buffers undesirable. When your "healer" or "buffer" can easily shit out 100k damage or more every turn, and that is WITH a ST support on top.. yeah well.

It's kinda crazy that the basic Queen team with granny and Futaba has even MC hit for over 100k with twins sustain. Half of the damage is coming from supports in this team now I feel...
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>>552258324
Purple
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MAXMIMUM CUTE'N FUNNY GETTO!
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>>552259265
gz, how much gems did it cost?
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>>552259265
Can you tell me then how her A6 works, as in how long it takes to stack the special mask again?

It says 8 turns, which can mean anything and nothing. Power set says 6 turns per stack and it counts any and all actions taken by allies and enemies alike. I doubt it works like that though.
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>>552259463
no idea, i don't buy gems but rather use a vpn, go to the store and buy the exclusive ticket packs there. imma post the history once it updates tho
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>>552259626
no clue, just add me and use em, i've put them on assist. for now
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>>552259680
Can't do that, your friendlist is full.
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>>552259823
my bad, try again
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>>552259463
so, 663 pulls with 4 missed coin flips and a few earlies. not too bad but nothing will ever top my futaba pulls i guess lol
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>>552259949
Alright, sent it.
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>>552250957
Funny thing is p5x is the only thing propping up the franchise. Like, Reload was a mildly received remake and the only concrete thing approaching is 4R. It's pretty dire.
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>>552260717
There's no need to doompost and exaggerate.
reload was quite successful.
And "propping up the franchise" isn't a thing with single player games - it's not a live service thing, there doesn't need to be something new coming out every month or it's dead.
>it's pretty dire
you are distant from reality.
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>>552259626
So, after using it against a weekly boss I never got it back. So the 8 turns are likely 8 twin turns.

The only thing that could make it better is if Ange refunds it.
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>>552260654
thanks
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>>552261389
yeah, seems kinda bad against longer fights
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wtf is going on here
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>>552262345
Well your score is pretty low (i feel i could do a bit better piloting and not fucking around with kits but I’m not going to bother at this point)

Which one’s your Chord / Futaba team
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>had to pity to get a1 twins
>got their weapon in a single 10 pull
I don't know how to feel about this
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>>552262756
futaba and chord are in the yatsufusa team
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>>552258518
How does their buffing/damage fare against Chord? Like for example Haru's rotation benefits a lot from Chord but would the buffs and damage from the Twins make them comparable or even better if you only have one or the other?
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>>552264859
damn rookie, needs correction
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>>552264789
Let me just post the guild thingy result. The numbers are dupes and weapon, while 0 means no dupes or not the 5* signature weapon (in which case they have a maxed 4*)

Keep in mind, twins can do your healer job. They don't inherently rival the Ayaka slot, UNLESS you need SMoko for EHR. Their buffs aren't even that much worse as a healer.
Btw, these are one and done scores. Plenty of things I could do better in both of them.
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>>552262345
Did you auto them or something? I autoed at the start of last week and was in the 30%-40% range, manual'ed the fights at the end of the week with the same teams and went up to 8%-12%.
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>>552267885
no but i used twins for the psy weak boss cuz i didnt pull for haru and for yatsu i didnt use the granny because i needed a medic so queen sucks ass
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>>552268187
>for yatsu i didnt use the granny because i needed a medic so queen sucks ass
>wonda
>makoto
>granny
>medic/guardian
???
Oh, you're a Chordfag aren't you who valued Chord over needing to turn Makoto's entire gameplay on?
Seems self-defeating to cripple Makoto so hard just to run Chord who then underperforms because you crippled Makoto.
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>>552268749
i just always use chord for the weaker team
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>>552268187
mmm yeah, maybe try Sweeper Twins + Chord in the first fight and then run the regular Makoto/Vino team in the second half. Or idk what your friend pull is, but taking a Haru is definitely going to help the first fight and you can do Chord with her for lots of damage.

Sorta related - Do the twins count as Medic/Guardian when they're in that configuration or does it not apply because they're Virtuosos?
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>>552269035
I'm not sure it does you any favors here, because Makoto is such a retarded rugpull that she's glued to Chizuko, eats 2 slots mandatory, and Chizuko is the only 4-star Wonder doesn't at least have some kind of similar compatibility persona for. Not yet anyway.
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>>552269148
>Sorta related - Do the twins count as Medic/Guardian when they're in that configuration or does it not apply because they're Virtuosos?
The fox's damage did not seem excessive for my Medic Twins (most enemy hits being 1500 ballpark) so I assume they counted.
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>>552269220
yeah i know, i fucking hate characters that are tied to another character, i hope i can replace granny in the near future, i just dont like using 4 stars much less a dried up hag.
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>>552269387
well, the answer for that is they replace Makoto with BUI in a little bit so...
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>>552268187
No Haru so you use twins as... Almighty sweeper on Psy fight? I feel like if you don't have/borrow Haru you would default to whatever regular sweeper they arent resist to, so like Ann fire team or Jonkler.
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>>552269453
thats kinda fucked up ngl
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>>552269761
yeah i use jonkler alongside em
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Where's the monthly revenue cope?
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>>552271459
https://revenue.ennead.cc/
Site is down
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I fucking rerolled so many times on the CoF event but I only get HP or Ail Accuracy on the custom card.

What's your bounty?
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>>552273316
Just filling out a few main stat cards I couldn't even find for Yusuke and Minami.
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>futaba is attached to riko because they would look very similar with futabas natural hair color
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>>552275209
>barely progress even with half anniversary and twins
Eos soon.
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>>552276721
>Maya
You just know he's a bitter P2 troon even without look the profile.
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>>552275074
Use the inscribe feature to reroll useless rev cards into better ones.
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>>552215506
>>3 more weeks until mont
1.
3 for Howler.
Check the Phantom Pass weapons for their dates, I think it was 8 and 21.

>>552235836
Not 0, but realistically they're probably 0.
The P3 collab is a P3R collab specifically and she's not a P3R character.
They already talked about the collabs being easy to do because they pull the assets over from the mainline games back when they talked about the P1, P2 and SMT collabs.
It's not that they couldn't put in effort to make a new model for Kotone, animations, design her kit, bring back her P3P seiyuu or cast a new one, etc, etc.
It's that for them to do it, it has to be worth the time and money spent.

>>552252386
Every single nuke and curse character has been great though?
Sepia is great for the Ill Wind trials and one of the new Technician stages, and he was a great event boss killer before the DoT nerf.
Joker is still the only curse sweeper in the entire game.
Berry and Nuke Bui are DPS monsters.
Leo is one of the best DPS buffers in the game.
Vino and Queen remained relevant in China for 1 year and 3 months before Nuke Bui stepped up.
Psy is easily the worst followed by Gun desu.

>>552275220
>futaba is attached to riko because they would look very similar with futabas natural hair color
Brother, you did not need to headcanon a reason to explain that.
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>>552230831
>You get so many follow-ups it’s nuts. It’s … probably not worth using Joker as well to get his extra-turn shenanigans for even more, but like idk that sounds fun too
I am just gonna stack follow up procs with Swimsuit Miyu later on.
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>>552277943
>Psy is easily the worst followed by Gun desu.
Gah. I meant to say the opposite, Gun is the worst followed by Psy.
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>>552276721
I don't have to imagine
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>>552277943
You're almost certainly a redditor.
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>>552277943
>It's not that they couldn't put in effort to make a new model for Kotone, animations, design her kit, bring back her P3P seiyuu or cast a new one, etc, etc.
I think the problem lies more with the situation they could face if they decided to make Door-Chan a thing in Phantom X. People were miffed a bit about the whole situation with the season pass gatekeeping the Answer despite previous interviews implying they won't do one while being deliberately clear on ommitting the majority or downright everything from the female protagonist route. Making one now after all that went down with Reload would feel like a slap to the face.
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>>552278097
I'm someone who plays P5X and enjoys discussing the game in anonymous imageboards.
Sadly, this is the only one that has a general.
>you did not need to headcanon a reason to explain that.
Funny I had to use this twice in just a few minutes.
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>>552277943
lmao leo is dead after we get wind vast. He would've had a much longer shelf life until summer marian but that has changed with the twins release
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>>552278264
Go back.
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>>552278297
>lmao leo is dead after we get wind vast.
Nah, he isn't. Nightmare's Catcher will start to run 3 bosses at some point. That's the reason he stays relevant.
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>>552278264
/vmg/ is a dead board. Also /vg/ should not have generals.
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>>552278408
Not like you niggers don't just auto that shit. Regardless, 99% of the time we'll be splitting chord/vast/twins leo will probably be dead weight
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>>552278524
I meant /v/ lmao
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>>552278680
>Not like you niggers don't just auto that shit.
Auto gives me terrible scores.

>Regardless, 99% of the time we'll be splitting chord/vast/twins leo will probably be dead weight
Fair enough. The twins might phase him out completely, I forgot.
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where's rise
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>>552282574
In my bed
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>>552276384
The twins not being instantly recognizeable as meta definitely hurt their sales.

Even people here were doomposting and shaming others for rolling for them, and this site is lolicon central. It was probably a lot worse on other sites.
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>>552283085
You mean you were shitposting about them nonstop and multiple people told you to shut the fuck up because it was obnoxious?
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>>552283348
You mean normal behavior for any new gacha character release? If you aren't getting excited over new characters then why are you even here? Just to shitpost?
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liz when?
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windeu
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>>552283085
They were instantly recognized as "without A1 this is going to be absolutely garbage" and that's what it is.

Literally anyone using or talking about them has A1. That's just the reality of that.
It's not some shitty A1 like 15% crit-rate for Futaba or whatever Wind Vast has. This is a A1 or fucking bust A1. A0 twins are a passive +1 to wonder skills and that is it.
There are good A1 that make a good char even better, and then there's Twins A1 which makes a shit character genuinely good, roughly doubling their performance.
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>>552284580
Considering you're in a shitty guild and not even 8* in SOS does it really matter in your case?
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how do i get good at tycoon? or do i just accept that im bad and wont get those coins and gems?
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>>552284849
Why do you think so? I am, in fact, in 8*. Guild doesn't matter to me. As long as I get all the mattering rewards I'm good.
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>>552284007
Ugly
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when is flat attack better than atk% and vice versa?
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the only persona game i played is p5x should i play persona 1?
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>>552291175
Should probably play P5 first holy shit nigga
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>>552259265
that A6 is bonkers.
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>>552291605
why? it has an 8 turn cooldown
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>>552262345
are those bad scores?
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>>552291175
since youre new id go with persona 5 royal then persona 3 reload and maybe persona 4 golden after when it releases
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>>552289460
>when is flat attack better than atk%
Never.

>>552291175
>the only persona game i played is p5x
Ouch.

>should i play persona 1?
If you're a zoomer then forget about P1 and P2. You're not going to like them if you didn't grow up playing older JRPGs from the 90s and early 2000s.
Go play the latest versions/remakes of the modern Persona games. You'll like those better probably.
There's Persona 3 Reload, Persona 4 Golden (it's getting a remake either this year or the next one, Persona 4 Revival) and Persona 5 Royal.
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>>552259265
damn all that for 6* C3
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>>552291175
Yes. 1 is quite enjoyable, and I it somehow has better gameplay than 2.
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>>552259265
does this actual give wonder another perma +1 or did they just forget to remove the text?
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>>552293424
yes
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>>552293482
damn thats neat
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>>552293756
in a way you could say its the best a6 in the game then since its always in effect and makes an unremovable party member stronger
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>>552293845
nah
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>>552293845
It's the best A6 I think, it will always be relevant and as they add more characters like the twins and it stacks the difference between a +10 wonder and a +0 wonder will be clear.
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>>552294015
good argument, thanks for the input.
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got a1 twins, how important really is their 5* weapon?
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>>552291175
persona started at 3
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>>552259265
why does their hat read oxymoron if you read the letters successively
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>>552295409
Very.
It benefits from their A1 because it gives damage buffs to the party whenever they use their S3.
It also gives them extra Desire Level which improves their skill damage and effects too.
The twins were basically designed as an A1R0 unit desu. If you check their kit you'll see the devs weren't subtle about it.
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>>552295758
because that’s their whole thing? they’re two parts of the same person, but very different. also one of their skills is even called oxymoron
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>>552293845
Sure man that 3% extra wonder damage is gamebreaking
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>>552296508
unironically yes
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>>552296508
i thought its for all skills not just damage dealing ones?
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>>552296724
it is
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>>552296508
It'll add up over time if they release more attendants that increase wonders skill/highlight level
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kinda fucked up that wonder stole jokers lolis like that
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>>552297202
Looking how underwhelming they are without atleast one level into awareness, it's not a big loss.

But in all seriousness, I am gonna assume that Margaret might become the next velvet room attendant if they do a carbon copy of Reload's collab with Revival.
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>>552297523
I would assume Elizabeth is next, then Margaret
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>>552296724
The problem is it's not a lot because a lot of stat scaling wonder buffs are fixed and don't increase.
So for example Dominion's atk buff skill gives 15%ATK, +1.25% for every 500 ATK you have, but the latter part is capped to 10%. If you have 4000 ATK it's capped.

Level 7 increases it to 15.8% + 1.31% for every 500 ATK, and it's still capped to 10%. It means the requirement is a little lower, but that's it.
Effectively this means lvl 6->7 gets the buff from 25% ATK to 25.8% ATK. The damage buff goes from 16% to 16.4%.

The biggest gains get sustain abilities due to the flat part. Like Sandalphon: Grants all allies 25.5% ATK + 771 shield. Increases the main target's dmg dealt when they have shield by 20.4% for 2 turns.

->26.8% ATK + 955 shield. Damage: 21.4%.


tl;dr: You need a fuckton of skill levels before this actually matters. This is on the level of your hideout bonus'.
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Nobody is going roll Elizabeth. She's one of the few women in this series that is canonically used goods.
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>>552298530
wonder is kinda ass so i'll take anything that makes him better and hopefully he will get stronger in the future
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>>552299051
Maybe the next time they release a protag, they actually take wonder's slot.
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A6ing the twins is only worth it if you’re a whale though. You’re better off stopping at A1 and saving for other characters.
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>>552299545
thank fuck the other gachas i play don't force an unremovable shitty male mc into my party
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>>552298791
Just more reasons P3 is the worst one
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>>552299560
Nah it's worth it because they're hot.
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>>552299051
Wonder being mid offensive-wise makes sense from a story perspective but I think the only "version" of him being stronger will be an summonable Idol version of himself or the White Mask Wonder.

I doubt that they're gonna give Wonder an Persona that is offensively gonna be stronger than most Idols.
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>>552299967
Wonder isn't even bad if you look at the story.
Keep in mind all story canon character are literal GARBAGE like normal Motoha and a fucking owl.
Rest is just Wonder's wishful thinking.
>Boy DO I WISH this cool doctor I met would be this maniac thief that bleeds the enemy and deals all the big dick damage I could never

Why wonder's sole imagination is only ever getting carried by dudes and girls is another thing.
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have the devs said why they wont let you remove wonder from the party? itd be a win win because theyd make more money from people pulling characters instead of him
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>>552300926
because it’s persona
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>>552300926
The combat is fundamentally designed around him being a permanent fixture. Imagine if you could do shit like main dps/twins/chord/wind vast on one team. This would make sub dps finally viable but then we'd HSR levels of powercreep.
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>>552300926
>have the devs said why they wont let you remove wonder from the party?
Because he's THE main character.
I don't know how it goes for other gachas, but you don't really remove the main character from the party if they can fight, not in persona.
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>>552300926
No but it would be shit because I hate gachas that have the protagonist as a character only for you to bench them almost immediately. If you want to use more characters they can just add an extra nightmare catcher boss.
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>>552302007
99% of gachas want you to bench the MC to sell you more characters.
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>>552302121
And those gachas are shit for it. It's worse than the gachas that have you play as a strategist role meaning you're usually nowhere near the action
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>>552302121
Should just gacha the main character then.
Also it's still crazy to me how there's a fucking HOYO game that actually always has a genuinely strong and viable main character around that's optional to include. The only issue you face is that you only have one, and the next class change is going to come. Unlike here, you can't use them in every team, only once.
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>>552300575
He's not bad but from an offensive capability he's probably the lowest out of all the protagonists. The multiple timelines being compromised of multiple team compositions with most critical events being carried out or pushed through by other characters than him in the main timeline is a strong allude to that.

Basically Higurashi but with only snippets of the previous arcs, or worms, or a village wide curse.
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>>552302854
>White Mask Wonder either took the deal Jonkler received or went mad with power.
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>>552300575
Shun and Riko are good though
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>>552303842
He just tulpa's the entire Tokyo. It's his Palace.
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>>552302854
>Basically Higurashi but with only snippets of the previous arcs, or worms, or a village wide curse.
What p5X is umineko? I like umineko
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>See Tomoko
>day ruined
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>roll for twins put them on my compainion assist
>EVERYONE IN MY COMPAINO ROLLED FOR THE LOLIS
>7 ASSISTS
IL NEVER GET MY FUCKING ASSIST COINS
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>>552305296
Public servant Tomoko!
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>>552305132
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Wonder trying to beat this game of fuckery across timelines makes sense.
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Okay guys I don't understand the twins and give up. I'm watching my twins auto the event fight and weird shit happens.

First of all they are in their strategist form. As such they have the psy nuke attack, which should hit twice, which it usually also does. But once combat goes for a bit it hits 4 times?!?
Also they just used a highlight to attack and fucking CRIT it?!??? I thought highlights can't fucking crit.
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a tw twins guide says almighty damage doesnt benefit from penetration or def reduction

is this true in this game?
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>>552306062
>Also they just used a highlight to attack and fucking CRIT it?!??? I thought highlights can't fucking crit.
Violet's can.
Hers were the first highlights that could achieve crits hits back in China.
The twins' were shown to hit crits too in one of the videos to advertise them before they were added.
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>>552291816
They’re not “good” scores if that’s what’s you’re asking
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>>552306260
Yup. They wanted the lolis to be a high floor, low ceiling unit for newfags.
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>>552306893
just surprised on lufel saying to use pierce rate on them as substat when it does nothnig, he doesnt know ?
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>>552306736
whats the average
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>>552307242
You should be able to get atleast 10% with A0 shilled characters and decent builds/rotations.
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>>552307181
Doesn't pierce rate get changed?
Right now it's just a lower value def shred, but there has to be something changing eventually. I'd assume it becomes like resistance shred in other games?

But yeah, no idea. They also give themselves pierce rate with one of their persona so there's that.
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why cant i use this im borrowing a twins
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It's Chihaya day, woo!
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>>552282574
Part of me is looking forward to her.
Part of me is dreading to be forced to listen to her JP voice.
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>>552312527
>Fool Upright, more persona medals at the RoR
Oh well. Maybe I'll get a good buff next month.
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if i dont have haru or queen whos better to borrow for guild?
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>>552313319
SMotoha for Kartikeya I guess.
For Yatsufusa... I've no idea honestly.
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>>552313532
are you fucking stupid? This is Haru's boss. Not everyone is in motoha slammers
>>552313319
Haru if you have smoko and/or twins. Makoto if you have neither of those.
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>>552313532
>>552313826
thanks
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>>552313319
S.Motoha for Kartikeya
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>>552313826
>smoko and/or twins
Speaking of, who's better for Haru on global now? I assume on CH it's still Moko because of the Mindscape buffs.
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>>552314868
twins
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trust and prosperity is the best set for minami isnt it?
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>>552317297
Generic support set, so yeah either that or a control set depending on the fight
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Can they hurry up and add the dedicated repression medal farms already
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>>552317964
thanks, and is it fine if her hp is at 15k only in battle and not outside of it?
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summer katayama
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Every 4 star is gonna get an alt except her lmao
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I got lucky enough to get Minami to A1. How does her pierce buff work? Since she boosts everyone's max HP just by existing, does any heal from her (S2, S3, or Highlight) always trigger the buff? Do the heals from the Blessing she grants also trigger the buff?
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>>552314868
Haru without SMoko doesn't work. The EHR is too big.
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Haru/Moko/Chord?
Makoto/Granny/Twins?
Now to figure out how to split Surt, Vishnu, Dionysus and Dominion...
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>>552323392
You don't need Moko to hit the Ailment Accuracy threshold. Her 5* weapon + cards with Wonder wearing the Starry Dagger and Shiva are enough for that..
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>>552323392
so if you did your research, youd know the twins are outscoring smoko on haru teams
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>>552324203
You mean A1 twins vs. A0 SMoko? Because well. They better do. But I still think that must be some misplay or some whale shit with maxed out Haru weapon to cover the EHR issues.

>>552324093
That'd be a massive pain in the ass to get for just one char though. There are better ways to spend those resources. Shiva is also not helping with the EHR issues. So you basically need EHR main stat and in general do a lot more EHR malding.
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Overall Evaluation

“The flying serpent has no feet,
the five-skilled weasel ends in poverty.”

This saying perfectly describes the Twins:
many skills, but none truly refined

Aside from Superiority (Ice/Fire + Mind Core),
most roles are partially overshadowed by random design choices

As a Superiority support, their buff strength is average
At Consciousness 0, they can’t even outperform SP Jun in a Defense role

However:

If used as Rescue, or

With Consciousness 1,
their buffing power becomes genuinely strong

For Rescue specifically:

At Consciousness 0, healing can drop off
(Yes, a Rescue unit that’s bad at rescuing — international joke material)

But in terms of buffs, they outperform Yukari and Water Peng by a wide margin

Ultimately:

They suffered from global version synchronization

Their Mental Image advancement was spent too early

If they can’t keep up with future content, buffs will be the only solution
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>>552325482
you fags way oversell how much haru needs ehr. You act like if she's not at 180 she's hitting single digits
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>>552326426
Twinrager looking for any excuse
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>>552326426
>The flying serpent has no feet
The grounded one doesn't have any either. What the fuck is this saying.
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>>552325482
my haru reaches the aliment acc needed without main stat or moko

just roll the substats bro?
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>>552327658
螣蛇 – a mythical flying serpent

無足而飛 – has no feet yet can fly

梧鼠 – the “five-skill mouse” (a weasel/rodent said to have many abilities)

五技而窮 – though it has five skills, it still ends up trapped/at a dead end

Meaning:
Having many abilities doesn’t guarantee excellence; being unfocused or spread too thin can lead to mediocrity or failure.

This is a classical Chinese proverb often used in literary criticism and strategy discussions
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>>552328064
I'm not sure how specifically a flying serpent that has no feet contributes to this analogy when all serpents have no feet. Or does China have serpents that have feet?
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>>552328840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7eNFj_9Vk
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What syngeries should I focus?
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>>552330183
phoebes 17 and kotones 13 are pretty good
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>>552322890
Any of her heals that would heal more damage then the amount of damage the target has triggers the buff on that target. I believe blessing buffs count as the individual healing themselves, but if you are full group healing every other turn you should have 100% group uptime on the pierce buff unless one of your targets has a ton of HP and damage, and the heal somehow doesn't over heal.
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>>552330183
Tomoko
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>>552330183
Definitely not Tomoko's. That's a one way trip to bricked accountville.
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>>552330183
Tomoko in the afternoon
Miyu and Kotone in the evening
Phoebe in the night
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>>552330183
You have it right already

Cherish
Miyu
Messa
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>>552331078
Based
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>>552331078
>>552332815
Cringe + samefag'd
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>>552322669
>goes to Nagisa's house in the evening
>comes home at night with a fresh stick of dark red lipstick
How does her witless husband suspect nothing?
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>>552330183
Miyu's is good.
Messa's is kinda whatever because you barely ever use the gun.
Masaki is worthless unless you have a hard time keeping track of the cards that are being used in a tycoon match.

I can't tell which ones you already did, but Yumi's, Miyu's and Kotone's are probably the absolute best we got right now. The stuff you'd want to prioritize Rank 17'ing.
We should be getting the first 14 ranks of Runa's synergy in the next patch. I heard that one's decent since it supposedly gives price discounts for rare synergy shops or something like that, which should ease up getting gifts for your other synergies.
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>>552338443
Messa's synergy gun damage & reload is (currently) EXCLUSIVELY for Shun minigun, for a lil extra damage and more spreading defense down. High rank Messa synergy lets you Gun > 3 > Gun > 3 > Gun > 3 on AOE fights.

Would previously have suggested nighttime Yui for cheap flowers for girl confidants, but with the extra first time Miyu gifts you can usually get to rank 15 on most synergies just by doing all the first time regular gifts & the first time Miyu gifts, so then the cheap flowers from Yui are just for grinding high level cosmetic rewards for girls that like flowers. Which is a shame, because I was previously the most gung ho about telling people to level Yui.
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>>552321139
I love her but Rei has a negative percent chance of being involved in this game
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And we are DONE the twins shop and I can go do other things that aren’t fighting Shiva again
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don’t pull for the twins
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>>552284007
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>>552277837
>burn all your reroll cards when you didn't even get the main stat
Dumbass

>>552339326
Not "exclusively" since we lack Gun characters so anyone with good offense stats has value in another hypothetical Gun-only Kohryu or some shit like we had that one time.
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>>552350118
I'm gonna A6 them
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>>552330183
Tomoko is top priority to unlock options for Money since everyone needs gifts to actually get anywhere
Miyu is probably 2nd priority for blanket affection gains and Yumi 3rd for AP refilling
Fortunately all 3 also conveniently occupy different time slots
Shun for bonuses for the AP drinks
Cherish for Card Counter in Tycoon

After that it kind of falls to whatever you want.
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>>552350940
lol
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>>552350940
Based
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>Tomoko is top priority
and other lies I tell myself
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>>552350940
Based
>>552351306
Cringe
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Tomoko is my top priority
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This faggot just replied twice to himself and then posted >552351481
Mentally ill
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>>552351174
>>552351265
>>552351306
>>552351439
I ain't even riling up the antimokoschizo or anything.
Tomoko is legitimately the #1 priority so you can unlock Money+Social Stat gains from the jobs.
Without that, you lack the money and/or stats to raise anyone else.

I would've said the same thing if Tomoko and Motoha were switched.
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that man has a waifu and is proud of it, I respect that
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>he actually needs the card counter
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Card counting gets you thrown out btw
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>>552351650
>>552351709
Stop samefagging and shitting up the general you retarded nigger
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>>552351650
>>552351709
You done samefagging or what?
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>>552351650
Based even the anti tomoko schizo leveled her social link because she's irresistible
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>>552352093
>>552352096
Smells very discord invasion-y in here.
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>>552351896
Shadow Polter (red and black panties)
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>>552351896
On one hand, I'm kinda glad that the story on the other side is going so slow as it makes it easier to avoid spoilers
But I really wish we were getting main story updates faster and more regularly because it is my biggest critique of the game.
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>>552352275
>>552352302
Smells very samefagging invasion-y in here.
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they hated him cause he said the truth
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>>552352514
Its not hard to use two devices
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>>552352593
Its not hard to use two devices
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>>552352593
As the top (You) there, I don't even bother acknowledging their idiocy. One could easily be a shitposting samefag like they often are, and then crop out the (You)s and claim they're separate people.

It's best to just ignore those elements typically.
Obviously I'm samefagging right now and this is all very elaborate roleplay. kek
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>>552352784
>>552352794
Not even subtle
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>>552352784
>>552352794
Not even subtle
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>>552353042
>>552353045
Too obvious
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>>552352707
>>552352708
HOW?
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Imagine being so desperate to try and pass yourself off as two different people.
Tomoko schizo, this is not how you get people to like your whore
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>>552353967
this is the hardest crossword puzzle I've ever seen
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>>552353967
this looks like it's made by people who kill people and chop them up.
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When are they going to implement hotfixes for all those visual bugs post 2.7?
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>>552361636
Fuck no.
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>>552350881
I used a a6 twins in guild and it was shit, their a6 effect you can only use once per standard battle ( 6 turns) it's a 8 turn cooldown lmao
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>>552362764
also best time to use it is on the very last skill 3 proc so even though it lasts 2 turns really it's only 1 as that's the last turn
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>>552361636
what bugs?
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>>552362764
You're really, really dumb. :)
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>>552362764
Okay

I'm gonna A6 the twins
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i'm thinking maybe i quit because waking up and immediately doing gacha dailies sets the tone for the rest of the day (fucked) can i get an amen
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>>552366210
why would you do it immediately when you wake up
go to work dipshit
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>>552366210
Ok? Then fuck off from our thread. What exactly do you want to hear from us?
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the seed has been planted
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>>552371716
inside justines womb
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>>552371716
inside caroline's butthole
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>>552371716
which seed
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>>552372634
see >>552372220 >>552372502
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>>552366210
Amen I wish gacha moved away from a daily system and istead it was all weeklies.
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>>552340218
>Cognitive being from a different time
Idk, seems possible with her.
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>>552375931
I think anon means that there's so many mechanical problems from a low-budget dev standpoint
>No recyclable P5 engine model/animations (same problem as Tactica, oldsona, etc)
>Need to make them for Zen too since he's the one who actually fights in their duo unit
>Have to make something up for melee attacks since Zen only uses crossbows (especially since they don't have a Persona, so no copout like the twins using Bugbear gun skills for their "gun")
>Comparatively obscure
>Requires P4R collab to be done first for full context since PQ is a 3-4 crossover
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>>552376923
well the melee is easy. Just bash them with a corndog

but generally the biggest problem is no one knows who the fuck Rei or Zen are, and they've got a lot more ground to cover before they're scrounging around and taking characters from decade old spinoff games (and if they somehow were going to do that they'd take Labrys or Sho first)
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>>552377792
Especially since Labrys and Sho have actual models thanks to dancing games.
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>>552362764
So is Chord shit due to her long cooldowns and low capacity to maximize her effects since they're front loaded and fall off a few turns into a fight?
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>>552378893
>long cooldowns
every 2 turns anon, A6 chord or you're a scrub
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So, Mont really needs a different set depending on which element you'd play her, right? Kinda fucked. Or does she come with a new revelations set.
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>>552379996
I think she comes with a set. Looking at CN sets, one is definitely made for her.
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>>552379996
Crit rate cards should come out with 3.0, which was when her FS variant came out. They also come with a built in resonance damage up.

The elemental cards are mainly if you want to solely focus on either Ice or Wind which is amplified by her A0 which makes her start in her ice form if there are more ice thieves than wind thieves in your party.
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>>552382461
>Crit rate, resonance damage up
BUI time, I see
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>>552366210
I'm thinking of switching from the 8 hour tasks to the 16 hour tasks so I can skip the morning log on just to claim and resend tasks.
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>>552387731
if you actually were logging in multiple times a day you're a schizo
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I'm a brainlet what two mask combinations am I supposed to be using for the twins?
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>>552389242
it depends on the situation. you switch them up, that's the point of the unit
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>>552389242
The Ice/Fire for party wide buffing.
The Electric/Wind for HP healing
The Nuke/Psy for Sweeper/Assassin buffing
The Bless/Curse for Twin Self-buffing.

They are basically a stand-in buffer if you lack a dedicated Buffer/Support Idol.
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>>552389242
Healer combo AOE heals every turn at A1 while giving substantial attack buffs.
Strategist combo gives party attack and pierce buffs to your main DPS.
Guardian can heal and shield on alternate turns.
The other combos work but aren't as good. Ultimately depends on what you want them to do. The strategist fire/ice + nuke/psycho is a viable duplicate for Chord for the side with the less relevant DPS highlight. So you put Chord on the side with the better highlighter for more highlights, and Twins on the other side for less highlights but bigger overall numbers.
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>>552389242
Related Twins question: since they do 4+1 different types of damage on a two turn cycle, does that mean Wonder should have Kohryu equipped when he's using twins unless his rotation needs all three personas, since Twins can keep 100% uptime on Kohryu's passive? Is it time to overclock our Kohryus?
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>>552391137
It's pretty decent. Bonus is, Kohryu starts to dizzy when enhanced.
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Alright, after dozens of resets did I finally got Picrel for Ange.

Good enough or will I need to reroll more?
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>>552391137
>>552391619
y'know I hadn't thought of that. That's maybe a good idea
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>>552391684
Highest Pierce Rate I got was 1.9% after like 5 rerolls
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>>552392437
Lucky you. But I meant the question as in "Can I use these substats?"

I burned up over 30 to 40 rerolls atleast and I would like to try my like with the other card I could create.
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>>552392674
can you not just press the arrow to the right? Do you have to make one before you can go onto the next?
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>>552392761
I only noticed the arrow now and I feel incredibly retarded for it. Thanks.
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>>552391619
>>552392332
I feel like if your Wonder rotation on the Twin side doesn't have a compelling reason for all three personas, Kohryu as a passive attack totem is good. Gives me a reason to spend stamina overclocking him. Great time to do so since I don't need character mats because I'm not rolling on Swan or Howler.
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>>552361636
More often than not they just push any bugfixes to the next update patch.
The one time I remember them patching something faster was when the Melchizedek bug happened.
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>>552392957
It's giga cheap to upgrade compared to some other stuff.
Had it maxed as one of the only 2 I've maxed for a long time already. (the other one being your starter)

Wasn't exactly useful until now though.
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>>552389242
The combination that you need the most at that particular time.
The masks are what determines their battle role.
You're supposed to use them to cover whatever it is that your party lacks. Heals, shields, buffs.
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>>552394367
i mean, consider that the cost also includes getting Merope to level 20 and its actually the most expensive Persona that doesn't need level 4 coins
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Am I retarded or is Justine and Caroline's A1 one of the best in the game?
Or is it just nice feeling QoL and not actually that strong?
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>>552395425
A1 makes the twins reliable but they will still only be major buff supporters.
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>>552395425
it's very impactful. Cherish's and Smoko's are quite good too as A1's, but they're much more usable as A0's while that isn't the case with the twins.
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>>552395425
They have better buffs than dedicated buffers right now, while dealing more damage than 4* dps.

Like my A1R1 Messa vastly outdamages them, but they still deal like 30% to 40% of his damage. I only really used them in the current event fight for farming purposes, but even as a strategist I've seen their HL deal over 200k damage and their normal nukes also breach 100k easily, excluding the almighty extra nuke. And they don't get the Smoko buff (they do benefit from all the debuffs though and Futaba).

Twins A1R1 are a super comfy and nice character. And yeah A0 looks fucking useless.
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>>552395912
I didn't want to spend limited pulls on a standard character like Cherish. Maybe I'll get Smoko's on rerun.
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>>552396158
Meta jewels are the only thing I ever get
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>>552396158
meta jewels probably, the keys are for thieves secrets in the metaverse section if youre new and missed them
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lmao
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>>552396505
pull
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>>552396158
A 5 weapon case is worth 4000 meta jewels i.e. 40 weapon pulls. If you want one it's not an unreasonable purchase. But that aside I'd go just for the jewels.
The key's unlock events that you may have missed (for example, the different summer challenge fights, or the ones that came with Messa or the twins). If you've been playing long-term there is zero reason to get them.
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>>552396158
>>552400431
Did they update the weapon cases too to pull the rerun weapons once they become available in the weapon shop?
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>>552400845
Limited ones aren’t in it.
But there’s a couple unlimited ones that are still worth having - Shun’s, Leo’s, Minami’s, Rin’s, and Ann’s (Maybe Riko’s idk) namely
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>>552401501
Shit, was hoping to stack those up to pull maybe weapons like Makoto on mass.
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>>552396505
After I got the twins, I decided I didn't need the nurse any longer.
Not sure what to do with them, I was thinking of waiting till peebee is out of jail and just trying for her. becasue with the 6 month delay in them going to the standard banner there's just no value in gold tickets outside praying for ann dupes.
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>>552402731
Gold tickets can turn into meta gems for limited pulls - see >>552396158
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>>552396158
Only go for jewels or if you've built up a decent Idol and their weapon is available in that case then go for it.
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>>552402731
The theoretically smartest thing to do is wait for chars to be in there that actually have decent dupes.
Earliest here would be the shield guy. It's still very much standard tier dupes, but they are quite okay with a bunch of the earlier once having been buffed.
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>>552402731
Peebee still in jail for ~2 months, right? Kinda regretting skipping her, and I know Ange is ~5 months away so the window for her use might be small, but I do want to roll for her when she hits standard.
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>>552404895
You did get Futaba right? You’re fine with Futaba and Wind t b h.
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What's better for Violet's moon card. Attack or damage mult?
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>>552406271
Why are you getting cards for a shitty dps that gets powercrept in 2 patches?
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Probably not worth the gems, but...
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>>552406373
doesnt she get powercrept by makoto who comes a while after her?
>>552406518
cute
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>>552405975
Have Futaba.
Loved Wind on velvet trials. Cleared them and felt super rewarded for investing in her. However, she feels much less impactful on boss fights with no knockdown mechanics.
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>>552406373
answer the question retard
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>>552406518
out of all the things they've done this is the most unforgivable and I hope they never do it again.
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>>552407019
>doesnt she get powercrept by makoto who comes a while after her?
NTA, but she does yeah.
He comes out 6 patches after her, so about 3 months.
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Imagine rolling for a boring shit character like kasumi
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to
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>>552404573
By the time some fag hits standard he will be thoroughly powercrept. Happened to Marian, will happen to Phoebe, and will happen to your homo. Roll for favorites or cough up cash, no reason to hoard tickets.
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mo
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ko
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ko
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Skipping Swan because I spent the rolls I had saved for her on getting Twins A1. Now I'm considering also skipping Violet and rolling everything I currently have to push for Twins 5* weapon and possibly Twins A2. Have I gone mad, or is this reasonable? For reference I'm not a pedophile.
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>>552407776
You don't understand anon, I didn't roll for S.Motoha.
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>>552408848
honestly the twins a2 doesnt sound as good as the a1 but i could be wrong, a new character is usually better than dupes anyway and violets a really good st dps character, maybe you could try and get the twins weapon but skip the a2 and get a0 violet? it depends on who you like the most
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>>552408206
Anon, he's still giga meta in China. By the time he enter standard he's still good. And the same can be said about upcoming standard chars as well.

Thing is just, china gets their dupes for free, we have to save 6 fucking months past their release... and even then we can't save the "coinflip loss'"
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>>552409380
>By the time he enter standard he's still good
Yeah just like Marian lol
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>>552408848
>Have I gone mad, or is this reasonable? For reference I'm not a pedophile.
J&C A2 is basically two of those buffs on 24/7 because they only have a two turn rotation.
It's good, but I think you'd get more out of the weapon.
Also, if you're not a lolicon probably don't do it? The twins are great at A1 and you can save your rolls for a unit you enjoy more A1+ weapon them instead.
Their 4* is serviceable, it gives them attack, which a lot of their stuff scales off of anyway.
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>>552410378
That 30% party attack buff on the A2 that would be active in both healer and strategist modes is calling out to me, telling me to burn all my rolls to get it.
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>>552410835
it's good, but you could also just save up for wind vast A1 and get someone most people consider one of the best supports.
The twins are so versatile and A1 is such a big jump for them already, they probably don't need further investment to stay relevant for a long time.
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>>552411292
A2 twins are better than wind vast
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>>552411292
The upgrade on the weapon going from 4* to 5* looks big enough to satiate my roll thirst. You may be right. Might just throw rolls at that instead of gearing up for an entire additional awareness.
>>552412030
This is what the green goblin mask in my head talks like.
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Is A1 on the twins gonna be a better investment than the 5* for them? Probably not gonna be going for anyone else until my wife Howler drops
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>>552406271
Hp/dmg bonus/crit (or critdmg if you can cap without it/att. This is the standard setup for almost all dps
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>>552407019
Gets powercrept at a st dps by door who does twice her dmg yes but has a niche as a linking dream companio boss character due to dance partner as you need to run double dps for it. I dont think we see this field effect until Akechi though.
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>>552413752
If you don't A1 the twins, you shouldn't roll for them.
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>>552413752
A14* is better then A0R0. A1 adds 4 free triggers of S3 in a 6 turn fight. A0 Twins are barely functional.
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>>552408848
For twins its A1 > R0 > A2 but I wouldnt personally go for A2 if you're already short on gems, its just too expensive for what you get back. The weapon is great but dont let it cost you a new character, you can always get it on a re-run after saving weapon coins.
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>>552412030
Yeah but A2 is massive investment. You're better off getting their A1 then rolling Vast.
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>>552412030
A2 twins buff crit?
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>>552415226
If he already has A1 twins, don’t you need A1 on Wind Vast as well? Going for one more twins is better than going for two Winds.
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Kotone already had it rough being released shortly before violet but now she's taking from behind with being released after the twins. Someone on the dev team hates her.
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I know everyone is saying to get A1 twins but how important is the weapon?
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>Twins went from D-tier already powercrept on release easy skip to
>Your account is bricked if you don't A1

Remember to never listen to /p5g/.
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>>552422537
See >>552295760.
It's the 2nd most important investment for them desu.
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>>552422602
Reminder you lolicons are always inevitably caught and prosecuted.
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>>552425118
But lolicons pretty much never do anything prosecutable.
Whereas the soiboys and seethers have actual human cp in their closets they're always caught with.
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does shun just have no other clothes?
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>>552422537
It's the best 5* weapon in the game, but they don't need it to function.
The only weapon better than it, releasing soon is kasumis, and maybe you could argue chord.
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>>552430934
He spends all his money on ramen ingredients.
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>>552430934
no
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>>552430934
why does he never wear his ramen necklace anymore
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>>552430934
Who needs new clothes when you could instead spend your money on ingredients to prepare new types of ramen bowls?
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>>552430934
almost like they know nobody gives a shit about the males in this game
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>>552322669
Her voice actress is uh, not available at the moment
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>>552433924
yes, that’s why messa won the popularity poll
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>Will outclass every other Fire Idol before.
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>>552438294
she'll be a sub dps that wants A6 to be good
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pulling all p3 characters, skipping p4 characters
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>>552438294
Literally the Mitsuru of the P4 crossover.
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>>552438594
Holy based
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Does wonder get an outfit to blend in with the P3 characters?
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>>552442250
fuck no
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to
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mo
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ko!
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>>552438294
>Healer
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>>552425118
That would be true if any of those fags were doing more than larping and jerking off to hentai
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just a fun fact that the top guilds ask for your paypal or banking history to prove you're spending a minimum amount of money on the game
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>>552445806
thought that was sumi for a second, but was pleasantly surprised
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only just realized that my a6 ann has 3 strife cards and a courage one since i got her
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>>552445864
isnt just showing A6 be enough?
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>>552445864
What a bunch of lunatics lmao.
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>>552446130
Nope. Since, theoretically, you could've gotten a bunch of early pulls
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>>552445864
Proof?
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wonder loves chinese food.
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>>552445864
Bruh that's fucking unhinged also retarded, wouldn't it make more sense for 3-5 whales to form a coalition then just plan who A6's what character?
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>>552446794
Wonder loves sideways pussy
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can I only create one card from the event?
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>>552447382
2, click the arrow at the bottom.
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>>552447532
thank you, I am blind
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What cards should I make from the event?
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>>552447653
Navi cards.
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>>552447793
What are Navi cards?
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>>552447643
They could have made it a bit bigger t b h
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>>552447653
Whatever you need for your current DPS units, or good labor cards. Most future units have better, unreleased card sets.
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>>552448096
futaba, wind
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>>552448096
Labor. Focus on making them offensive or loaded with crit rate or multiplier.
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>>552447653
contrary to what reddit and retards here tell you, the next DPS you want to pull. Better Navi cards will be practically unnoticeable. meanwhile you gain a lot more damage from your DPS having useful substats.
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why is the soccer minigame bar so fucking fast
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>>552448749
because soccer is hard i guess
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Is Howler any good?
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>>552449285
if a monkey can do it so can wonder
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>>552449432
Not really. But they're inevitably going to buff her.
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>>552448749
speaking of the clubs, does the city life event just stop showing up once you reach lvl 9 in them? Haven't seen them for months now.
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>>552450142
There might or might not be a bug where the activities stop showing up if you completed all the quests before hitting Lv10 or something.
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>>552450142
>>552450709
They became notably obscure since 2.4 atleast. Got lucky to grind out the football shop but I haven't seen an invitiation to the music club for atleast in two months.
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>>552450142
It stops showing up once you finish the quest line line associated with it. The only way to reach level 10 is to not do said quest.
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>>552451745
they will eventually fix it… hopefully…
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>>552448749
You have a button to slow it down buddy
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>>552452234
Sure, just how they'll eventually fix Shun's gun not reloading properly.
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>>552452381
doesn't do jack shit
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>>552442845
>>552442998
>>552443156
Based
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>>552448749
lower your framerate to 30
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>>552442845
>>552442998
>>552443156
Cringe
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>>552447653
I made some juiced up Virtue cards for my wife, Yoshizawa
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>>552446128
Disgusting.
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Wonder fucks Slutmire
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>>552457383
More like Slutmire fucks everyone
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>>552457460
So true!
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the Sumire chad in /pg/ mindbroke so many dumbasses and it shows
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>simping for d*rrik
Holy newfag
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Out of Joker, Fox and Queen, which one do the A1R0 Twins cope the best as a replacement DPS
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>>552462819
Joker probably, since the sweeper skill/highlight is half curse.
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>>552462819
They don’t do as much single target as queen, and Fox content is pretty custom tailored to him and his supporting characters.
I’d agree with >>552463129
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>>552459142
Nobody liked her in the first place. She's a mary sue with a generic design.
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>>552463660
This but Makoto
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>>552463854
Nice cope
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I haven't played Royal so I don't know who Sumire is
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Yeah I'm a gamer.
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>>552466890
kys
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>>552466890
gz
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>>552466561
Well clearly you do since you used her real name.
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>>552466890
congrats
keep yourself safe
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>>552467770
I use the name people in the thread use, I don't know her other name if she has one
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I tried giving her a chance. She's a hodgepodge of lazy writing and fanservice no matter how you see it. She's a Mary Sue, plain and simple. She has no personality of her own and has no real chemistry. She's a plot device and some cute character design, which is fine in and of itself, but I'm tired of people trying to justify how she's actually a fleshed-out, positive addition to the cast of characters. She's one dimentional and horrendously reliant on Joker. The whole Cinderella inspired persona was the cherry on top of the cringe cake lol

And people need to remember that her character design being similar to that of Joker's has no symbollic meaning. Just watch the interviews regarding her character design. It was a marketing choice, not anything significant.
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Marie >>>> Sumire.
Better in every single way
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Marie is a literal who forced into a setting where she doesn't belong.
She's also a literal autist.
The only good thing about her is her design. Every single other thing about her screams of someone who wanted to put their oc donut steel waifu in the setting of P4.
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>>552446128
Sumi love
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>>552468652
Except in looks, personality, and popularity.
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>>552469042
I feel like that describes every cast member after Yukiko.
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>>552469456
Kanji was believable, a thug who grew up helping out in a small store run by his mom in the boonies.
Rise being some national level idol who just happens to end up in bumfuck nowhere? Not likely. Same with Naoto, there must be hundreds of cases she could have picked but ended up there of all places?
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>>552469042
but she does belong intrinsically. Marie fulfills the mythological underpinning of Persona 4
She's also not autistic (Sumire on the other hand is actually schizophrenic...)
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can I use the twins as a DPS?
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>>552471489
maybe
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>>552469934
>but she does belong intrinsically. Marie fulfills the mythological underpinning of Persona 4
Not even you know what you're trying to say
>(Sumire on the other hand is actually schizophrenic...)
Thanks for the disingenuous analysis
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>>552469042
She's the best girl of p4 but maybe p4r will add a new waifu or even a female protagonist it's so strange that added fem MC for p3r but not p4 or p5
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thoughts on them buffing the damage the sos boss does for global?

vishnu+his birds does not do that much damage
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>>552471943
nobody would want to play a female Charlie
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>>552471943
No she's not you fucking retard
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Haven't played P5 but kinda want to roll for Sumire cause she's cute. Will she get good buffs for global or is she DoA?
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>>552473258
she gets horrifically powercrept within 4 months by a male so take that as you will
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>>552473358
>male
Irrelevant
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>>552471943
P4R will do neither of those things
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>Tomoko takes her clothes off
>You...
>Wrap it in paper
>Put in the chopsticks
>Add more strawberries
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>>552468652
Honestly, when I finally played P4G when it got freed from Vita, I found Marie to be nowhere near as bad as people made her out to be.
Feels like most of the hate came from people who didn't play it and based their hate off the anime version of Golden.
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>>552471943
>or even a female protagonist
lol
lmao

Never happening.

>it's so strange that added fem MC for p3r but not p4 or p5
Because P3 has the least amount of writing around the protagonist as a member of the cast and requires the least amount of changes.
Change Yu or Joker and you have to completely rewrite all the main cast and group dynamics.
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>>552476348
>has the least amount of writing around the protagonist as a member of the cast and requires the least amount of changes
I don’t see how that’s true at all
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Well that stinks.
>Regarding Kotone Montagne’s synergy passives, we would like to clarify the specification. Although two passives are obtained by completing Rank 1 and Rank 9, the effect is not cumulative. The description does not state that the reductions are added together. Instead, the 5% time reduction is replaced by the 10% time reduction once the higher-rank synergy is unlocked.
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>>552477928
Yes, the main character is there, by he is pretty separate from group dynamics and their character development. A lot of the plot and character stuff of 3 happens independently of the protagonist. Yukari and Mitsuru play off of one anaother, Akihiko with Ken and Shinjiro, Junpei with Chidori, etc.
And replacing them shows how little it matters who they were as a person that everything happens 99.9% the same way.

You can't swap out Yu for a girl because that completely changes characters interacting with them. Yosuke, Teddie and Rise for example, would be practically completely different characters if the protagonist is a girl.
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>>552478968
fuck off yurifaggot
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the best 2 characters together, they saved the best for last
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>>552481505
No, I actually hate yurishit
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I hope Motoha and Tomoka never find out I gave them identical heart rings
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this plan better be rock solid, riko
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>>552474447
Filling Tomokos choco taco with cream
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>>552483423
Cute!
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>>552482783
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What are the chances we get another Tomoko unit?
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Yeah this general is dead as fuck. It's just the Tomoko schizo talking 90% of the time
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Rate this card for Violet
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>>552492372
You were supposed to get Control set. She doesn't use Virtue.
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>>552493578
That's retarded. I'm not building her around WV skill 3. The wisdom and virtue set makes her do more damage overall with any buffer.
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>>552493771
She'll have WV all to herself until Makoto. You're retarded lmao
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>>552491984
Who'd think a low effort game that updates slowly, has little events, had a horrible launch PR disaster and is all around stingy struggles to maintain a playerbase outside of meathead guild faggots that congregate on Discord servers.
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>get rev cards with right stats
>but they also have speed
>annoying but try to level them anyway
>lol more speed
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>>552495716
Now you need more speed on your support’s cards to keep up and have the right order
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>>552468232
True
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>>552495716
Sex with Goro Akechi
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My feeling on Riko is more positive lately simply because even if she is a bit boring, she's not a killjoy. Like she actually plays along with the sillier moments and doesn't look down on her teammates. She's actually kind of pleasant.
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>>552500095
This, she’s better than Makoto who plays the same role
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was watching foreign servers doing the twins sos as its same as ours

but its not the same they do like the third of damage ours do so they can just do barely any sustain or defensives at all.
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Man this event boss is way more fucked than the other ones I've played. Any big time Ryujichads here able to god burst burst them on 30?
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>>552503287
I did it with ryuji+leon+and twins as saboteur

Barely beat it because leon fucking died before I could kill shiva the second time(it was a cursed run because sandalphon can't shield once you get heal nerfed, needed to bring king frost), but kali is so fucking weak that it didn't matter.
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>>552503287
Use Leon 2, 3, 2, 3..., Shun's gatling gun and 2 for def shred and his 3 for heals in phase 1. For Wonder, use the physical dagger, Chernabog, Vishnu and Dyonisus. Use Vishnu to Megidolaon the shields and def shred with wind, Dyo to boost crits and Chernabog VoA between shields.
Then we have phase 2: you need to kill Shiva asap or you're done. Pray for Ryuji crits and use his and Leon hightlights before every God Hand Burst, you shpuld need only 2 bursts to kill him or you're dead. Don't even try if you don't have an A4 Ryuji with his 5* weapon.
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>>552500095
that's a pretty low bar, but admittedly most persona characters don't clear it
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>>552505068
What awareness?

>>552505089
That high? What if you have A6R0 Leon and the Twins?
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That is the highest I've gotten in a long time. Are people seriously bricking their accounts by not pulling J&C A1?

>>552503287
I just used Makoto. You only have to do the 25 difficulty one
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>>552507736
If you have the twins or Cherish, you can survive more turns with shields. My strat was considering you had neither one.
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>>552508871
I got a higher score without J&C. Nothing bricked without them, just learn to play the game.
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I wish there were special events or other non-RoR methods to get weapon crystals and the generic skill incenses at times like these when we don't have anything going on desu.
How many more Thieves Secrets will we get?
I know Mont FS and Howler will have one, but what'll happen after that?
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what card sets the best for violet? ive heard it depends on if you have wind vast and maybe some of her dupes, also if you have her in your team instead of chord or a healer
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>>552518906
Violet doesnt function without Chord glued to her. She wants the Virtue set, or in select situations the control+dep set if you have no other way to cap def down
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>>552517504
Howler, windv, matoi, turbo, summer minami have them, maybe a few others. Mainly characters that dont have their own special event like crossovers or CNY.
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>>552516481
But I autobattled. I don't want to play the game.
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>>552520994
>But I autobattled. I don't want to play the game.
Am I the only one who generally doesn't care about how well I do in the weeklies and plays mostly for the stories and the characters?
Also futaba queen sexo.
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>>552508871
The SoS modifier is pretty brutal for the twins fight so yeah, I guess so.
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>>552522254
I'm the same
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>>552522254
I too mostly play for fun.
But I also tend to like Auto.
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>>552522254
Yeah but because you don't carr about the meta you're gonna question why you keep playing and eventually you're gonna fall off.
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>>552508871
Probably by not pulling them in the first place.
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>>552522254
It gives me something to do between story updates, which are way too slow to come out.
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why does merope give phantom thieves bigger busts than they have in reality like 5 star mont and tomoko
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Thanks to dailies EXP change I've gone from level 40 to 60 incredibly quickly but I'm running dry on mats to upgrade my characters.
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Hoom? Why is there dirt here of all places?
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>>552536192
The sheer amount of mats to level up a character from 70 to 80 is going to make you cope.
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>>552529651
I agree with this guy.
There's currently 2 weekly and 2 biweekly fights that actually matter, and then there's occasionally an event boss fight or new palace boss. Everything else can be ignored/autoed. If you aren't even playing on the occasional important fights, why even play the game at all? I assume there are streamers recording the cinematics. Why not just watch those then play a game you actually want to play? You don't have to autistically replay the same fights to maximize your score if you don't want to, but if you just want to auto everything, it feels like you'd rather just watch the cinematics.
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>>552534686
>Why does the autistic lesbian always make the teenage girls hotter?
Impossible to discern.
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>>552541719
About bloody time.
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>>552541719
>Started the game only for her
Gonna A6 her asap.
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>>552541719
Would be cool to see more than just snippets from the various timelines with the different formations of the thieves.
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>>552541719
Finally. Just five more days.
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>>552500095
She's cute, which helps

I think the issue is that compared to normal Persona, 5X doesn't have as much in the way of casual stuff in the main story progression so we have to wait for events to get them outside of the serious business stuff.
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>>552529651
This could happen to anyone though for whatever reason, it's just the nature of any thing like a gacha or long term thing that wants daily interaction.
if I ever no longer care about the story I could also always just come back 6 months later to story updates anyway there's no real drawback for me if I put them the game down temporalily because I don't care and if I put it down forever it also doesn't matter because at that point I'm doing something else it's the same for you except maybe? The small amount of currency and resources you'd lose out on, but you could probably spend to catch up for the most part so you probably really wouldn't feel affected unless you missed a major agent but atmost you wait for a rerun.

>>552539978
Unironically if a guy was autistic enough to record all on P5X EN, main story, events, syngeries and upload it the fights edited out I would just watch it off his channel instead of doing the daily logins. The only trouble I'd really have is like what if that guy stops just stops playing?
Thankfully the daily logins in this game are like 5-10 minutes so it doesn't really feel bad even more when you can just auto the energy.
I think the the worse I've ever felt was the oracle boar fight her event battle always felt like it took ages to complete.
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>>552507736
A1R0
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A2 twins are a must
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A6 twins are must for the permanent Wonder buff

And yes, you will also A6 any future Velvet Room attendant
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>>552541719
NO
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE GEMS
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>>552541995
We need an event where we can get AU versions of the thieves we meet in some of the doomed timelines.
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Now that the dust has settled, should I A1 the twins? I have like 110k gems I've been hoarding for the bumrush of cute girls starting with Swan Mont.
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>>552549347
if you have that much gems, like the twins and arent planning on getting any future units to something like a6 then it sounds like youre pretty safe to pull the a1 desu
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>>552549659
>arent planning on getting any future units to something like a6
I was only planning on metafagging and A1ing Wind Vast but that's it. I'll throw some pulls at them and see if I have to go to full pity, if I do I might just reconsider since it sounds like they're kinda asscheeks if they aren't A1 so it's all or nothing and I'd hate to dump like 40k gems into one unit as a f2p.
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>see Tomoko
>day ruined
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Is this a good pull plan?
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>>552551136
Ive been strictly sticking to doing the crepe part time job because she doesnt show up there
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>>552549034
What would their real Personas be, I wonder
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>>552551216
If you have a built Ann yes.
If your ann is shitty you may want to consider china yaoling.
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>>552551216
Ange and Vast are good choices. If you don't plan on using atleast one or wo theurgy Idols then don't pull for them alltogether.

If you lack an Ice or Wind Idol then Swan Mont can fill in the niche nicely.
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>>552550530
yeah sounds like itd be a good decision, the twins’ a1 is really good but i get that youre f2p so it might be a but much, also wind vast’s a1 is said to be a bit hyped up by some people but still definitely good and if she gets some good global buffs it could be different as well
>>552551216
pretty good but i do really recommend pulling summer minami unless you dint play for meta, shes one of, if not the best buffer in the game. you have a lot of question marks so im not sure what dps’s youre planning to pull but id recommend either door or berry for st dpa and summer puppet for aoe dps if you like them, but if you pull door you might want yukari as well to help him and could then maybe get akihiko instead of summer puppet
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This is the reward?
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>>552554267
That and the satisfaction of obtaining a limited capsule set that might never become available again, yes.
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>>552551136
Cringe
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>>552549347
A1R0 twins is good for mid-spenders and literal brand new players who have almost no limited units at all, if you have that many gems i'm guessing you've been playing for a while and just haven't pulled a lot or got lucky. if you pulled good dps units, they're useless for those roles. if you have marian/smoko and plan on pulling yukari they're pretty useless as healers. if you pulled chord and plan on pulling wind vast/turbo/summer slut marian they're pretty useless as buffers. their saboteur role is terrible outright

they'd be a no-brainer for all accounts if they didn't require A1R0 to be any good, as it is they're above average units in 3 roles but they'll be powercrept in most of those roles by the summer so imo as a f2p you're putting a lot into a unit that's going to be C team bait at best by the time summer rolls around. maybe throw some pulls at their banner and see if you get lucky but i'd stop at 109
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>>552557238
Nah anon, their A1 is currently actually better than a lot of "top tier" supports we have.
And by the time they fall off, they get their china buff which makes them a lot better in everything once more.

Their only downside is that due their elemental mix they can be awful in velvet trials permanent content.
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>>552558265
>supports
what do you mean by this? healers, (de)buffers, or shielders? all four? right now A1 twins are very good:
>good dps but if you have a dedicated 5* assassin and sweeper they're B team material
>as good as marian/smoko, depends on the team/trial
>as good as chord (and also the only other 5* buffer)
>terrible debuffers, rin is unironically better
>worse than cherish (and also the only other 5* shielder)
but come GL summer they will be:
>virtually useless dps
>in about the same position as healers, but yukari will be around the corner
>completely gaped as buffers by the massive dump of meta buffers we're about to get
>even worse debuffers
>still good shielders but that's just because we don't get many shielders, it's a niche unit that you don't often need for most content

as a f2p, any unit that's only good at A1R0 should be approached with serious trepidation because it will probably be powercrept in a year or less. twins will be powercrept in most roles except healer and shielder by summer
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>>552561053
You F2P nigger skip every unit anyway. If anything having a jack of all trades is gonna be amazing to fill in the gaps of your shitty roster.
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I think I'm feeling a little burnt out. What's the bare minimum I can get away with while I wait on new content? Explore some dungeons or finish the rest of the velvet trials?
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>>552563159
Don't bother with that dude, he's been trying to convince everyone that the twins are shit since Christmas.
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>>552563165
I mean if you don't like playing the game outside of the story just stop doing your dailies. Not like you need anything beyond the 4 stars.
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>>552563159
i already said that if somebody skipped every unit they should pull A1 twins. it's not hard to be f2p and only pull meta units who excel at a single role, and if you do that the twins are a pretty bad investment
>>552563336
schizo
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>>552563165
finishing the palaces for the gems and the velvet trials except for the 10 new ones for the gems also could be good
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>>552563631
Gems for characters that he's barely gonna utilize? What's the point?
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>>552563394
>>552563761
You misunderstand. I don't hate the game.
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>>552563889
Well since you don't seem to care for the main PVP game modes (SOS, NG), no I don't think you particularly care for the game.
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>>552563889
You misunderstand. They hate players like you.
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>>552564558
Yeah? Because you leech off of us who spend money.
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>>552563996
>He thinks that I'm the anon from earlier that said that he autos through SOS and Velvet Room
Lol lmao even.
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If you aren't pulling A1 twins you are literally bricking your account.
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>>552564764
I'm glad you spend money on this game to get 20 extra companio coins a week. Please tell me which blue revelation card is best to spend those extra coins on since the companio shop is dogshit. The sos rewards are at least worth striving for a decent rank but there's far more to the game than pvp. You can obsess about score to justify your spending and others can enjoy the story and character interactions
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>552564764
>you leech off of us
Paypiggies are getting uppity again. Pathetic.
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>>552567414
>>552568112
Feel free to install HSR or any other single-player live service game if you don't like socializing.
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>>552565879
Talking with Haru about beans
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>>552571284
No amount of meltdown will make SoS and companio "socializing" but keep sperging i guess. Ill keep enjoying playing the game how I want
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>>552573672
Do you know what the definition of a guild is?
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>>552573728
I do, I also know most guilds are for nothing more than borrowing from whales and posting stickers in chat. Don't act like you're sitting there with your guild in chat planning pulls and talking about your day. You aren't socializing and they aren't your friends because they use your a6 units
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>>552574472
Sounds like you're projecting your experience in a shitty ghost town guild. Most of them aren't that. Not that an anti social retard like you, playing a very community driven game, would understand. You would have more fun just replaying P5R honestly.
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>>552226584

I rolled the twins, what do I do with them now?
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>>552575669
Jerk off to hentai of them.
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>>552575669
Roll for A1 and then their weapon.
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Why yes, I spent $1000 to A6 the twins. I did it because I've loved them since day 1 and was so happy that they became playable!

I also want to fuck the shit out of them!
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When's the next steam? I know Mont drops soon and im sure they want to go over her update and the buffs
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>>552551136
This but Shitmire.
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Shan't be pulling.
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>>552577819
This but Tomoko
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>>552583352
>"Back the fuck away from my Girlfriend"
Based Wonder
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>>552584232
that's basically Miyu's confidant though with the Mermaid Molester
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what romance options do we have? and where can I see them all?
do we get any cute hags? I'm about to cockblock miyu.
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>>552593139
Everyone so far except for the boys,YUI,kayo, and merope.
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>>552593485
Merope is a forced romance she's just too autistic to understand relationships
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>>552593485
Dam P5 had a teacher relationship. why does atlus hate older women.
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>>552594046
they probably didn't expect coomy to be popular despite the glasses and huge tits
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what cycle of fate cards should i make
>rolled makoto the other day
whats her most optimized card setup?
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should I used my fate cards on the twins? their my damage dealer untill kasumi?
how important is i A1 wind vast and ange?
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>>552596441
>>552596640
this I genuinely don’t understand revelation cards
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STOP
PLAYING

thank you
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>>552601775
Nigga stop spending so much money on this kusoge
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>>552601840
I’m free-to-play though???
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>>552601840
brother it's 7* calm down
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>>552601775
6 behind you?
Welp, guess I know what I'm doing now
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yeah fuck this shit
i lose the weapon 50/50 EVERY TIME
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Is Cherish a homo?
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>>552603541
He's a Kanji
Looks homo
Acts homo
Straightest man on the planet
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>>552602650
anon you're a monster
don't crush my hope
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>>552603787
>Straightest man on the planet
Proof?
Does he have some scene of him banging some actual women?
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>>552605010
how much of a closeted homo do you have to be to make a post like this
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>>552605652
Listen, I really hate the fag "fans" in the west and their headcanon shit
But Cherish's scenes so far have been him being a fussy girl unhealthily obsessed with Wonder
So I'm just asking when the heterosexuality kicks in, because he has zero interactions with female characters, and all his scenes are just like weird girly shit

I will now post an actual heterosexual male.
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>>552605871
>Listen, I really hate the fag "fans" in the west and their headcanon shit
self hatred can spark a change for the better
just remember to take care of yourself anon
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>>552605871
akechi is literally unhealthily obsessed with joker and has barely any female interaction scenes lol
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>>552605991
NTA but instead of No U, please show examples of Cherish being straight or fuck off.
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>>552606090
Nah, that's just shounen rival stuff.
There's always a few fujos who ship those but no one ever takes that seriously.
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>>552606127
start off with showing an example of him being gay that's not shipping headcanon
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>>552606191
>start off with showing an example of him being gay
His entire synergy that made me want to puke
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>>552606334
that's shipping headcanon though
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>>552606191
>>552606334
I mean that really.
The first interaction or two were okay, just sheltered rich boy stuff.
Then came the phone call spam, all the being a fussy girl caring for a sick guy stuff.

In contrast to Kira who kept a normal distance and never made it weird, even if he rejected some arcade thots which I thought was pretty gay.
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>>552606545
it's all sheltered rich boy stuff
he doesn't know boundaries because he was never taught about them
you're the homo for thinking anything different
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>>552606658
Okay Cherish cocksucker.
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>>552606724
see what I mean?
you can't get cherish doing gay shit out of your head
you're in love, but you're too closeted to understand it
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>>552606658
There were other ways to show that than by him being your fussy girlfriend
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>>552606826
and your point is...?
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What do you guys think about the current event boss, and the Event Boss contests for fewest actions.

What do you think the lowest possible turn count is for Shiva and Parvarti. I know Moha was done in 4, wondering in hindsight if three might have been possible.
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I think both of you are fags
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>>552606794
I see that you're gay for Cherish, and it works out because he's gay too.
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>>552607235
Doesn't matter how many times you try to tell yourself that
I know you want him to be gay because you're a redditor homo who loves gay shit
But reality doesn't agree with you
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>>552607456
You overlap with one of mine, so you get points for her at least
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The essence of iris they sent out are bugged and can't be used to break through characters lmao
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>>552607426
On the contrary, I don't want him to be gay. It's just an undeniable fact that he is gay. No need to be upset since his homosexuality aligns with yours.
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>>552607718
>It's just an undeniable fact that he is gay
Okay, retard
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>>552607718
The only proof for his supposed homosexuality that you have is your own headcanon which just shows what kind of person you are
Your favorite P4 character is Yosuke isn't it
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>>552607456
Ayaka is boring as fuck.
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>>552607884
>Your favorite P4 character is
Ai Ebihara
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>>552607964
oh so it's the ntr chick, I guess that checks out
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>>552608129
I think you're just saying whatever random stuff pops in you're head. Does Cherish being gay bother you that much?
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>>552608270
I dunno man it seems to bother you a lot considering you can't get him out of your head like a maiden in love
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>>552607456
kinda shit taste ngl
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I'm sorry. I made this post >>552603541 as bait but I didn't expect there to be 2 tards willing to go at it that much with each other. My bad /p5x/
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>>552608316
>maiden in love
What does Yu-Gi-Oh! have to do with this?
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>>552608316
Not that he's in my head, but you think love is the only emotion associated with something stuck in there? What if someone killed your parents in a drunk driving accident, and that person was all you could think about, would that be love?
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>>552608563
You don't need to apologize for being gay anon, it's 2026 after all
>>552608594
Deflect all you want anon, it just shows how mad you are
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>>552608651
Okay Zenkichi Dojima calm down
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This game worth? I like SMT, Persona & Atlus in general but IDK if want to start, consuming too much time? Can take it like another Persona or is absolutly different?
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>>552609067
bro why are you here
go to a website in your native language
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>>552609067
You need to go back
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>>552607964
Based
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>>552615763
>Talent level (up to 7)
What about on low level characters?
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>>552609067
You can beat pretty much all of the story content on a f2p account using the story characters, though you might need some dupes of those, and at best or worst, one copy of the character "Onions" s signature weapon for its defense shredding properties.

For any challenge content then ymmv. Won't hit top of the leader boards without whaling, but that's all those are, wallet measuring contests.

Combat is fun if you like number crunching around the damage formula, autistic wet dream.

If you just want the story go watch a compilation video or Playlist.

The dungeons are intentionally designed larger than base P5 and repetitive to pad the game. It holds your hand on puzzles and hitting check points.

There are "strong shadows" with special mechanics to work around, although you can just ignore them with a strong enough team.

Ultimately depends what your looking for from the game.
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>>552616589
His name is Onions. I have no idea why my phone auto corrected to Onion. Weird.
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Reddit spacing
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>>552616589
>It holds your hand on puzzles
okay but let's be honest actual p5 does that even worse.
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>>552616731
Yes, but not the same exact puzzle for 7 hours.

Not a /vg/ native. Is there a board filter on that word?
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>>552616807
You’re not a 4chan “native”
Underaged faggot
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>>552607456
you like girls that like to please
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>>552601775
>Don't play a game
No
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>>552609067
As long as you understand the pace and release schedule and gameplay of gacha games, then Yes.
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So next stream is wednesday?
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>>552616670
Newfag
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>>552615763
Huh? Why are they different?
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>>552575669
Use them while you wait for the next character you want to pull.
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>>552578458
She's coming out on Jan 7-8, so maybe they'll throw a stream on January 6.

>>552594046
Kumi loves her students non-romantically as their teacher.

>why does atlus hate older women.
Dude, chill. We still have Yumi and Musubi.
And technically, characters like Yaoling and Ayaka are also women older than Wonder.
I think the same holds true for the next women? Mayumi Hashimoto anddd... whatever Matoi is actually called.
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>>552578458
>>552639624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHvx1hRbRQ
Two days until the next update stream.
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>>552596441
>what cycle of fate cards should i make
Cards for the character you use the most, the one you want to futureproof or a character that'll come out in the next months and you can make cards for, like Labor for Ange, Power for the Twins, Virtue or Control for Violet and so on.

>>552596441
>whats her most optimized card setup?
Awareness+Truth.

>>552596640
>their my damage dealer untill kasumi?
They're not much of a damage dealer until we get their mindscape core buffs in a year.
Right now they're best at buffing, healing and shielding.

>how important is i A1 wind vast and ange?
Wind Vast's lets you use her S1 on any character instead of just wind ones. Good, but not mandatory unless they buff it up for global. You can live with her S2 and S3 desu.
Ange's is pretty okay. It lets her act the beginning of the battle without waits and maxes out her stacks which boosts her skills by a lot. It also gives a bit of crit rate. It's a solid buff.

>>552603541
No one is a homo in P5X because this is a chinese game at the end of the day.
But he's easily the male character that is the closest to being one.
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>>552609067
>This game worth?
Do you like Persona 5? Then yes. It's that simple.
You don't need to engage with the gacha unless you want to. The story can be fully completed with the canon team of 4* characters in fact.
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>>552639998
Makes sense. The night of the 7 is when maintenance starts.
Thanks Anon.
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>>552640376
is that set better than wisdom and virtue for kasumi? what if i dont have an a1 navi but have an a1 chord and want some extra crit chance?
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He’s a little fucking fruity
Fujobait for sure
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>>552609067
It's only worth it if you like persona.
I'd say for a gacha the dailies are slightly above the average, and I'd put it at 10–20 minutes.
The 10 being on if an event is going where you need to spend energy.
this does not include the time it would take to strategize vs the weeklie bosses as that's largely optional challenge.
The metroline is also kinda a shitty rogue like and not content I enjoy, but im glad they attempted it.
I'd play it, it's free you'd have loads of story to start with and you'd get an idea if you'd like it.
the only problem is instead of being a finished game the story comes in product cycles.
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>>552640739
>is that set better than wisdom and virtue for kasumi?
Departure+Control? It's serviceable. Vast needs you to hit 10 times every 2 turns to get an extra 300 ATK points for Violet, and along with Chord she's the best support for Violet.
Otherwise you can run Wisdom+Virtue just fine. It's not a big deal.

>what if i dont have an a1 navi but have an a1 chord and want some extra crit chance?
Ideally, if it's possible to you, you want both crit rate buffs rather than choosing between Chord's 15% and Ange's 12%.
At the end of the day extra crit rate doesn't matter all too much if you can already get close enough to 100% in battle post buffs.
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I'm about to fight the 3rd palace boss, but my Wonder's level 60 and party members are 70. How fucked am I?
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>>552642429
you could be fine if you have some decent characters and built them well
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>>552642429
You should be fine. All the bosses are designed to be beatable with story Idols.
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>>552642429
She hits like a truck on her phase transitions. Depends who you have, if you have Cherish with any number of dupes you could be ok. Otherwise get Shun's 5s weapon for sustain and defense shred, and have your healer only healing every round.
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>>552642573
Even the 2nd palace boss?
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>>552643832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLTuW859B5M
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>>552644012
This guy was probably the hardest fight in the game for me.
>108 actions
and I think the cap is 120, he also got the most kills on the new year review or something.
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I don't know what to spend energy on how important are persona dupes? I've maxed Dionysus.
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>>552646568
Just minmax Nebiros or Dionysus. Their dupes are reliable.
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>>552646568
id max dominion as well and maybe alice if you have joker, i usually spend my stamina on event shops and stacking up on mats for future characters but you could also get better cards with it
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>>552642524
>>552642573
>>552642621
We did it bros. I went and crafted the food that gave me more defense, Morganna's Zio weakness almost screwed me over a couple times but we managed.
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>>552647360
gz
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>>552647360
Good job bwo.
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>>552646568
Dionysus is worth maxing out.
Dominion is also pretty solid since his passive generates stacks that give extra atk and damage when an ally like your DPS acts.
Alice too if you have a Joker team for his SoS/guild boss.
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Skipping
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>>552652982
That's fine. Care to share your luck with me for her then?
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>>552652982
Gayest anon in the entire history of this general.
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>>552652982
>stole Tomoko's synergy
Skipping too
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>10 tickets and ~3k crystals because i don't want to dip into my backup funds
Kotone, I'm sorry. I didn't expect the twins to show up.
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>>552652982
Skipping as well

>>552655382
Based
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>>552654890
When there's no jewels, there's no jewels.
Wasting my money on literal pngs and a model you can't export would be far gayer.
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>>552656001
Faggot.
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how do i come up with new recipes?
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>>552656336
Shun's synergy.
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>>552656336
>>552656460
yaoling’s synergy as well
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>>552593139
Look up the P5x theory blog if you want a sneak peak of all the romance options alongside their likes for preparation work.
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>>552593139
Musubi is the only romanceable hag. Yumi doesn't count, she's in her early 20s.
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Do I pull for mont fs or makoto yuki
I think her design is very cool but makoto probably overshadows her on dps
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>>552656942
yeah makotos definitely better than her damage wise but hes quite a while away and if you like kotone it might be worth pulling her if youll have fun with her
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>>552656942
They're like 10 banners apart anon.
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>>552656942
>do I pull the new dps or dps that launches half a year later
nigger???? you can absolutely get both even as a F2P
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>>552656942
Door-kun is a collab Idol while Mont FS will become available again through reruns. If you have Fox or Cherish, you could skip her to stack up jewels and tickets for Door.

Iirc she is also an option from one of the anniversary rewards in the chinese version but that depends if Global is gonna get cucked out of that one. I love Kotone but in the case of collab, go for Door-kun.
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>>552657290
I forgot how slow this fuckass game is jesus
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>>552658156
You say that, but we already went through a fairly large chunk of new characters in our 6 months.
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>>552658156
Really? Because the game is already being sped up more than the CN version and people bitched about it. You want it to be even faster?
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>>552656942
Door Vs Berry would be a better match up.
if you like p3 roll for door. honestly at that period of the game all the units are very good you could probably roll blind and end up fine.
>>552658156
We're on a sped up schedule, when we reach parity with CN things will probably slow down.
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>>552659642
>>552659538
I have finished as much as the game has to offer (without forcing pulls) and realistically it feels like tartarus would be the next logical upgrade

Aside from the twins, the events and characters dropped between the last palace update and now just feel very stale imho
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>>552659642
Yeah. You F2P fags are only pulling Ange, Wind Vast, maybe Yukari because pulling DPS will make you cry or something.
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the twins drained me dry
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>>552660227
should I pull kasumi or skip big bro? I spent too much on the twins.
I'll be in your care to borrow unitsi n the future.
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>>552656914
>Yumi doesn't count
She does.

>she's in her early 20s.
Late 20s. She's 26.
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>>552661472
Yeah. That's early 20s.
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bros pryden still hasn't added the twins to their tierlist should we be worried?
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>>552656942
>Do I pull for mont fs or makoto yuki
I mean, if you're not pulling Violet who's the strong ST DPS inbetween, I think you might as well pull both, Mont FS to keep you covered and then Makoto in May or whatever.
Unless you have a strong Queen. Then Mont is kinda whatever, and you could pick her up in one of the anni selectors anyway.
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>>552660227
Unsurprisingly retarded take, as expected from a paypiggy.

>>552661639
No because Prydwen sucks.
Lufel has been linked in the OP almost from the start and is made by one of the top players in the KR server.
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>>552661884
Don't talk to me, 6* faggot.
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>>552661884
>made by one of the top players in the KR server.
Proof? Name?
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>see Tomoko
>day ruined
3 days in a row now
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>>552668317
Stop going to your part time jobs then?
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>see Tomoko
>day made
I love her so much it's unreal
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>>552657290
Rolled Haru
Roll nuMont
Skip Howler
Skip Violet
Skip Wind Vast
Roll nuRin
Roll Matoi
Skip Crow
Roll Turbo
Get Luce for free
Roll Ange
Roll Door
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Remember weekly tea shopping.
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>>552652982
I might have tried if we didn't get surprised by twins, so instead I have to save for Wind Vast and Violet.

Maybe on a rerun.
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>>552657290
Pulling Kotone
Skipping dog
Pulling Kasumi
Skipping redditor
Skipping chink
Skipping rando
Pulling Akechi
Will make determinations beyond that point based on CN releases in the mean time

Yui is a given of course.
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>>552670451
>Skip Wind Vast
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>>552652982
Even if she got buffs I just blew my load on the twins.
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>he fell for the A1R0 twins meme
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Yes, I "fell" for the Twins. How did you know?
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>>552672659
Based
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how do i get better at the game?
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>lufel tier list
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Lufel is the only good tier list.
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lufel is the only tier list period
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>>552673179
Cherish is the only one here people said to skip.
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Hoom
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>>552673179
>Cherish in S+ tier
>when he's only ever used in Fox teams
>Fox is ranked A tier
??????
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>>552673354
>>552673354
>>552673354
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>>552673297
He's gonna get added to standard eventually, so I couldn't bring myself to pull. I'll just get him through golds or on the random stuff.



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