Happy New Years - 40k Edition>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editorLast Years’ Thread:>>552118637
Cooperate
>>552310739Nothing in this image has anything to do with /coopg/
Skullcrusher zealot in havoc. Yay or nay?
>find some candles in a circle>clearly a ritual>you can light said candlesAwwwwww fuuuuuuck
>>552311078No fun hats. No buy. Simple as.
dear god fatshark please turn middle tree zealot into a proper support slut
>>552311754Thank you for next dlc class idea :p, prepare to pay $15 for another "what vanilla class should have been" one-note character.
>>552311095We literally had an OP image of a trans space marine like two threads ago. Shut it.
>>552311095almost like every time people start posting legitimate fatshark criticisms someone from their (((content creator))) program starts posting random quotes from the game and suddenly a new shill general gets posted if we're near bump limiti'm noticing...
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>552313002I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW! OPEN FIRE!
>>552311078>They didn't even pick the good looking gasmask to put the commissar's cap on>people will still buy itTruly, grim dark.
>>55231109540k generaldeal with it
>>552313002Schizo troon
>>552313440https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcHb68f8L2Q
>>552313660I laughedA BIG BELLY LAUGH
>>552273971I love your censors they’re so cute :3
ogryn halberd
>>552310739Vashtorr is cool. I wish they would make him do more.
>>552316403gay robot
>>552313440they lost that model 2 years ago sorry :(
>>552313740It was from when this was still called /vtg/. Used to have some great OC in here. Phanrack was one I remember, funny videos
>home alone, time for some Darktide>quickplay auric, team is full retardo>I start yelling racial slurs in voice chat>alt f4>go to the kitchen for a drink>my mom is home>she has guests>"who were you talking to, anon?"My life is so fucking over.
even looging isn't helping this shit
is there a functional dorktide scoreboard mod yet?
>>552317313Lug your heart out in Mortis Trials, build for crit and hope for Death Dealer so you can shoot non-stop,
>>552317313I did the math on it and IIRC this amounts to like 40 minutes of non stop shooting with a twin stubber. Fucking retardedPeople say mortis trials makes it faster, but it's still 40 minutes of holding it down
>>552317527ye, hop on discord cutie
>>552317189>>I start yelling racial slurs in voice chati wish i met randos that would send me back to the cod xbox era, i miss that kind of brainless fun
>>552317776okay xx
>>552317797last time I had this comfy feelign was when I was playing Rising Storm vietnam
>>552317696cheers i'll give that a whirl>>552317717holy shit really?did the talent used to function differently or has it always been like that?
>>552317189>WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY FUCKING KITCHEN YOU SPEARCHUCKING UNWASHED RETARDED NIGGERS?
holy shit thye gutted the inferno staff
>>552317189Just tell them the Fuhrer's spirit took you over for a bit, I'm sure they'll understand.
>>552317940lmao, the amount of times i died of friendly napalm in that shit was crazy, fun game tho, would kill joes with a shovel/10
>>552318025It used to be worse. It was originally 5%, then got bumped to 8% for a while.
>>552318378I dodged that saying I was playing with my friends and we were just shit talking for fun
Cool start to the year. This is the only game I've played where the playerbase gets WORSE as it shrinks.
>>552319241is it Havoc at least?
>Play auric maelstrom>Res allies several times>When I go down they don't res me>Leave>Receive a message saying I ruined a guy's chances at auric storm survivorKek, cope moron. Should've made the effort
>>552320218>Receive a messageThis doesn't happen
It happened, I was the message.
sent you a msg on ICQ faggola
>>552320564They say you shouldn't kill the messengerBut they never say you shouldn't rape the message*rips open the envelope and starts fucking*
>>552320218idk what kind of dweeb is rolling the dice on 3 complete fucking strangers not dying even once in 5 auri maelstroms but i notice some very vocal faggots actually have the audacity to even complain no lessmaybe if they weren't a friendless fuck they wouldn't be in that situation and its probably also why they're a whiny bitch too
This guy has been having a melty over aurics for like a week now.Take a day off nigga.
I wish they would fix the tallying on penances. I have hundreds of hours and still have the rank 3 and 4 kill X penances and pushing poxhounds in midair penance still going.
Why do Heavy Sword enjoyers insist on the Mk IX? It feels like abysmal dogshit compared to the Mk VI which literally kills like 2 ragers in one single heavy and melts human-sized enemies
>>552324926>Why do Heavy Sword enjoyerswho?
its late here but idc i want to COOOOP, anyone up for some havoc?4944749582ill wait a bit then start regardless
>>552324926It has a fun swing pattern so it feels good to use even if the numbers are worse, for meone time, I told reginald the exact same thing ITT after he said people are stupid for using it, and he replied calling me a clueless idiot, in response to which I doxxed him. isnt that crazy
>>552319348Yeah. That's worst part. People going down 30 seconds in and then immediately leaving like it's quickplay. Sure it probably means you're too dogshit to be at this difficulty but have some fucking pride man. You're not going to improve unless you actually spend some time in the deep end you know?
>>552324926Because the IX has an easy single target combo while also having access to heaby horizontal heavy spams which are great with deathblow
>>552311078What is this obsession with Kreiger cosmetics. Why does everyone cream their pants over them?
>>552326783Creamger
>>552325294What region?
>>552311078Still waiting for the ration backpack for ogryn. Wish they would just sell everything, stingy fucks.
>>552325707That wasn't Reginald. It was me, Tanner.
average havoc scoom gaem
rannick is so gay
>>552327160Is... is that a scoreboard? AAAAAAA IM GONNA CUT MY COCK OFF AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
>>552327396you were gonna do that anyway don't pretend otherwise
Look at my scoreboard, big numbers good
>>552327641NO I SWEAR. THIS IS YOUR FAULT SO NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY MY MEDICAL BILLS
>>552327771That's true
>>552327160Yes we know they intentionally made the class stupidly OP to compensate for the fact that no one was excited to play it
>>552326921EUalways forget to put the region
>>552316317they'll simultaenously make their Ogryns above average intelligence (in some cases well above average)and yet they still seem to implement weapons for Ogryn under this idea>no you can't put that in, it's too "delicate" and "precise" for himwith the only exception being the Heavy StubbersI would fuckin' LOVE if Ogryn got an halberd, poleaxe, or some sort of spear / glaivealso that outfit goes HARD as fuckwhat a great looking design>kind of a diving suit>steel rope and a towing hook>Conan-style wrestling belt>that line of run across the blue glass eye coverswonderful stuff
>>552313534blind goy cattle
ratclick and poxclick players:https://youtu.be/yaapnjOofXI
>>552327771SPREY AND PREY
Now that the dust has settledWhy is everything wrapped in leather and cumrags?
>>552329360it's heckin' grim dark
>>552326783Poster boys for 10th edition guard, also the veteran guard kill team are kriegers (but I painted mine like steel legion).
>>552329550Well, well, well. Lookie what we got here, secondary boys, an honest to God firstdary who plays with the plastic toys
>>552329887oh hai modishpunkypony
>>552330018Hello, everypony*shakes your hoof*
>>552329887more like first-dairyI bet he's got big milkers underneath his warhammer t-shirt
>>552330228Mm-mmI wouldn't mind sucking on that!
>playing looger ogryn with achlys twin-stubber>hive scum with +attack speed crate on teamI'M WASTING SO MUCH AMMO BUT I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN
>>552330924I had an old school looger on my team today. Never went into melee, red ammo several timea and went down a lot, but at least he did the hacking
https://files.catbox.moe/8sxhq5.mp4>trying to S rank Mirage at Sea for the billionth time in RoN>bitch ass prince tanks 2 mags of pepperballs and pistolwhips to the face>mfw enough time elapses to trigger the "active shooter" voiceline that causes the sandjoggers to start executing hostagesi fucking hate this map so much
Physically cannot use the slab shield due to the ptsd I suffered from the beta.
>>552331394The fuck is this nigga yappin bout?>>552331519I only really used it after it got buffed, but now i've over-used it
Are either of the two folding shovels on Ogryn good? I've only used the basic non-folding one and it was very okay.
>>552330228 lost over 1/3 of my body weight from the cancer lol, can't stay above 140 pounds at 6'2"
>>552331962They are very weak compared to the mk 3 bully club, pickaxes and shield
>>552331702the cooperative tactical shooter, Ready or Not
>>552327160painfully boring
>>552332039holy fucking lankletIm 190 at 5'10", and Im not fatGod damn get some meat on your bones you stupid cancer-having first-dairy
>>552332039Yikes. Way to bring the mood down
>>552332081I'm trying to break away from only using those 3 anon
Trying out weapons that I haven't used yet, is hellbore just for taking out ranged gunners and threats with the charge or are there stabby shenanigans as well with the bayonet?
>>552332407I'd say the folding shovels are both better than the fixed one
>>552332493You can do a bit of stabbing, but it's nowhere near as strong as it was
>>552332407It won't have the horde clear or stagger of the others but I have fun with them. Mark 5 with brutal momentum will still clear poxies but will stagger mixed hordes rather than kill them outright. The special strikedown will deal with armor but only one at a time realistically due to the reach.
>>552332782They used to be able to 1shot 4 crushers at a timeNow they can't even 1shot a crusher
>>552311078>Hive Scum hood for zealot>No actual cosmetics for scummieWhat the fuck did FS mean by this hahahaha
>>552332162>The abysmal dogshit AIslop UE5 asset flip shooter, Ready or NotI didn't realize people still played that garbage, especially after they censored and permanently degraded the graphics of the PC version in order to have parity with the console release.
>>552331962The mk V shovel is a good weapon for pure heavy attacking, and the thrusted up special heavy on them is one of ogryn's best melee sources of monster damage. Its blessing slots are at a premium with access to all the good ones, depending on how you want to build. Less casual stagger compared to the club though.Used to do a cute trick of popping multiple Maulers with Brutal Momentum/Thrust special. Might still be able to do it against a fresh stack with heavy dedicated damage investment.
>>552330401Anon please
>>552332039Sorry to hear that man. Hope things look up for you. Keep pushing.
>>552332184literally the fastest most aggressive class, if that's boring then darktide is boring
>>552333927>Keep pushingHe had cancer, not a baby
>2 vets in team> one is h40>no field improv>no ammo auraI swear they're worse than ogryn players
>>552330018https://youtu.be/LE3M0bgRivE?t=12
>>552332286Not everyone who get's cancer goes right to the death bed. Not initially at least. Just a shit fact of life.
Do psykers even have dialogues about Cadia?
>>552333220its not an asset flip, but yes its unrealslop. and theres a mod you can download to restore that stuff
>>552312769That one isn't coopg either
>>552332039i hope you beat it the fuck up, lost too many family members to that and have a couple suffering from it, its one of the worst things you could possibly get, much love
>>552313440>imperial edition pig nigger bandanai bet you are shit, kill yourself oinker
>>552336330>Ignores part about it being AIslopDon't think we didn't notice that>theres a mod you can download to restore that stuff1. You should not have to mod a game to restore content that was removed from it. 2. You would still be playing a dogshit game even after restoring it to its launch state.
>>552337138yeah, the AI is bad. the game is much more fun when you have multiple human teammates its not my favourite game or anything, youre free to think its unplayable, anon
Where were you when Telopots and his army of Beta-faggot slav orbiters came back to save Darktide?
>>552335905Usually starting the conversation for the vet to finish with one of their voice lines.
sniper weapon when
>>552339658ratling update :3
>>552337073It’s stylish tard relax
>>552335905Yes. They’re all huge fans and heartbroken about it naturally. I think the French one offers some very heartfelt condolences for the vet and everyone he lost.
>>552334703A distinction without a difference
>>552319241>>552326706This can't be havoc 40 because unless the host is a retard that accepts everyone, this kind of stuff doesn't happen.In which case>the playerbase gets WORSE as it shrinks.is correct.All the good players climb out of the shitter bracket shortly after a reset. You need to keep up, else the only players you'll get are retards that belong at the shitter level, or 40s unseriously clowning around because they can't derank anymore, and their ego tells them that high 20 is somehow easy because they beat 40 (it kinda isn't).The solution is to win a 30-40 at any level on the week before reset, so the reset puts you at 30, then doing the 30-40 climb on the first week after reset.Yes, it basically is that simple. There's no better way of filtering out all the sub-humans.Unless, of course, you belong down there with them.
>>552339658Your vigilant autogun? Your helbore lasgun?
>>552342418hellbore lasgun doesn't have a sniper scope
>>552343942Your ocular implants? Your sensory enhancing combat stimms?
Lvl 1 psyker is criminally boring
>>552344709Your cockium? Your vaginanite?
Would it be too much to ask for the stamina replenishment part of this talent just be baked in to Marksman's Focus? Feels like a tax node if you want to run Deadshot.
>>552345491Arguably doesn't feel any better until the mid 20's.
>>552345624Assail carries low levels, it's pretty fun and strong
>get shot by sniper twice>no laser>no audio clue>not even a flash before the shots>finished by a silent poxburster ticking 30465454 times in 0.5 seconds while jumping on meNice game fatshark nuke sweden already this country is just full of lazy niggers
>>552345494I accept your concession
>>552346338I’m not that guy though I just wanted to say that
whats the point of playing ironbreaker if youre just going to eat shit and die constantly
>>552347707couldn't be me
wtf can a psyker do against a boss
>>552348641Void shields are weak to chain weapons and shock mauls.Fully juiced brain burst spam deals okay damage to monsters. Can usually strip 1/4 to 1/3 of their HP with Empowered Psionics stacks.Burn fucks up monsters real bad, so keeping max stacks with your flame staff is good. Add shriek for even more damage.Shock staff leftclick spam is surprisingly okay once you build it for unyielding, just don't expect any epic instagibs.Greatsword melee builds fuck them up real bad, too, built for finesse and crit.Laspistol has truly retarded crit/weakspot damage on unyielding, and access to a burn blessing. Dumdum + Infernus is meta for a reason. Same for lasguns, but they're markedly worse.Bolt pistol with Puncture is also decent.
>>552349219thankq for the answer
>>552348641>>552349219Oh I forgot the obvious onesDueling sword with unyielding on it deals real good monster damage. The parry is also decent. Devil's claw parries are also very good and you have access to Skullcrusher, but you need someone else to stun it so it's not really that viable in pubs.Deimos force sword specifically also has decent monster damage even without the exploit, you just need to figure out the single target combo. Just never use the special, it's fucking pointless for anything other than raising your peril.
should i no life darktide instead of space marine 2?
>>552348136when i got autistic about this game i could chuck a grenade from across the map and hit the gutter runner that was on my teammate. wish i had a video of it, i still remember it. we had all jumped off the ledge to the next part so the guy thought he was dead
>>552350382Wrong game, you're looking for WoW or something.Darktide has no real infinite or competitive progression (thank God).
i still don't know or care what any stim does aside from the health one, including all the hiver fart clouds. i have 210 hours. i also don't know or care what most other class abilities are aside from the 3 i play.
>>552351178well you are an ogryn main and a whale, you didn't need to tell us you're retarded.
>>552325707I lold when his orbiters like dorn started calling him jeetinald and tell him he stinks
>>552351379thats not my image little buddy. i don't know what ogryn does either i don't play him.
>>552351178blue make weapon go faster and make run easierred make damage become the big damageyellow make ability go brrrwhen hold rightclick, you can give psyker drugswhen press special, you can hand over drugsThat clear it up for you, retard?
>>552345780Definitely feels a lot better than low level staves without the later perks.
>>552351770i cant read
>>552350554>how much you wanna bet i could throw a football over them mountains?
>>552351868
>>552352297>"AHHH GET THIS RAT BASTARD OFF OF ME!!!">"Azumgi, think I can nail that thagi with nothing but this manling bomb?">"And what, lightly dust the rat bastard and Saltzpyre in a layer of spent gunpowder and shrapnel?">*throws bomb nailing the gutter runner*>"Right you are Bardin. I'll have a beer or two waiting for you back at the keep."Meanwhile Kerillian is being stomped to death by at least 5 chaos warriors.
>>552352610The yellow stim makes you autistic?
ny1 wnt 2 pley havc geimu????
i like darktides gameplay but the vibe just feels off compared to vermintide and i cant really explain it
>>552361885it takes itself way too seriously
>>552361885its due to the sprint and slide mechanics
>>552361885The devs really love vermintide and really hate darktide and probably resent the fact that it's so much more successful
>>552361993i think its custom characters and being able to be multiple of the same class, compared to vermintide i remember so much more dialogue and banter that felt unique
>>552362195How is that even relevant to the post you replied to.
>>552362343Because it shows and you can tell, that's why the vibe is off
>3 psykers and a vet>either pulling teeth or the easiest clear ever
>>552361885The vibe is, like, that it's a different game, dude
>>552362316i believe thats what gamers call soul vs soulless
Do I just demote it. I don't wanna do it.
>>552363014You'll somehow get a worse one if you do
>>552363014Simply stop playing Havoc
>>552363014Pox gas is back? Feels like I hadnt seen it in forever
>>552363125What's worse than>ride the elevator up in the beginning>two rituals spawn, the furthest ritual is somehow faster>get gassed in the elevator>twins spawn>vet can't kill the 10 tox bombers because Lisa fucking Simpson is attracted to him like a magnet>monster spawn and of course it's a Burgle which takes our ogryn away>conga line of crushers>and a weakened chaos spawn too
>>552363014>no toughness grace>pox gasFuck no
>>552363727>sand map rituals>somehow trigger them during an elevator>can't get there in time, get raped by daemonhost>lights out, meaning nobody will want to join your game>rotten armor, so it's a needless slog, assuming you survive the fucking ritual spam on the worst possible rituals map
>>552362316only valid if you limit it to vt1
The only maps I dont join are hourglass maps.Rituals are unavoidable because 99.95% of missions are ritual maps now
>>552363014Join mine instead
>>552364353>easy map>easiest modifiers for this map this weekjej
>havoc
>>552364446Should be way easier than anons assignment. Ranking up or even clearing equivalent level to (if max rank) changes your own assignment so the invitation is there if anon wants to attempt to sideline his entirely
>>552341840>The solution is to win a 30-40 at any level on the week before reset, so the reset puts you at 30, then doing the 30-40 climb on the first week after reset.It doesn't work that way anymore. Your assignment is now separate from your highest completed havoc. Gaining 1 - 3 levels depending on the difference between your assignment, and the havoc you completed.t. make the mistake of grinding back to 40 after returning to the game, got kicked back to 20 despite doing 30s because I was only at assignment lvl 28 when the reset hit
>>552366832This is correct. The resets go by your assignment, not highest done. Does anyone know what happens to your rank if you hit 2 resets without playing. Do you stay at rank 30 each time for example?
>>552367891If max rank then it decreases by 10, or rounds to the nearest integer of 10 from your current assignment each season. If you're 40 then you drop to 30. If you're 34 by the seasons end then you drop to 30. If you remain inactive then you'll drop each season by 10.
alright veteran bros, do you prefer duelling sword or mk6 power sword for havoc 40? i personally prefer the power sword
>>552369775I usually use the knife for mobility but I think I should give the psword an honest go, I haven't used it during the entire games lifespan because when it released, it was one of the hardest weapons in the game to craft (power cycler +2 AND getting non shit stats was a lottery win) and I just disregarded the weapon this entire time.
>>552371605Knife is hard to go back from, but still better than DS. DS made me a lazy player for a while.
I want to play videgaem...
>>552369775They all have their merit.>power swordOverall best option, since it has the greatest ability to clutch, and clears even mixed hordes well enough with no more tree investment than the standard +30% weak spot everyone should have>dueling swordArmor pokes, boss pokes, parry is genuinely useful when you're out of position and can't shout right then and there, but ideally wants a stamina curio if you're gonna do that>knifeBest mobility, still good single target damageIf I had to assume I'm the only good player, it's power sword. If I know the squad is reliable, that actually unlocks other secret options for Skullcrusher (shovel, dclaw, shock maul) or even chain weapons for melting void shields, which are surprisingly viable on veteran since you're not expected to melee much if the other players are actually fucking playing the game.
>cryptic can use crowbarwtf is this class actually going to be
>>55237885717.99
>>552378910fuck i lolled
>>552378857Wherefore dost thou say that?
>>552378910
>>552378972>>552379431>>552379802Stfu and answer this >>552379069
>>552378857>wtf is this class actually going to beAsh waste nomad
>>552378857Equestrian Pony
>>552378857We can't know what weapons they can use, it's just speculation based on it being the "Enginseer's" crowbar & being the only one of their melee weapons with no scum-specific mechanic
>>552378857I don't even know whether the source claiming "Cryptic" is reliable, because the source code files I have access to, do not feature such wording
>>552378857>>cryptic can use crowbarBased on what? Where did you hear this?
>>552338189>>552340613In 1800 hours, I've never seen a psyker talk about Cadia.Their dialogue system works a bit abominably.
>>552381724The issue is just that Darktide is nothing but action constantly. There's barely any moments of peace where characters can talk freely since it will be interrupted by call outs and ability voicelines all the time.Unlike VT2 which does have those "dips" in action which lets you take a breather but also lets the characters to talk and express themselves.
>>552383016>Darktide is nothing but action(And that's a good thing)
>>552383016Yeah, but how does the action affect the fact that this is the tenth time I've heard the same shit. Dialogues are too often repeated.
>>552383334That's because some voicelines have some very autistic and specific set of conditions that need to be met for it to happen.Like character being under 50% health and there has to have been an ambush just 10 seconds prior and your character must have more than 75% of your ammo reserve spent, etc. Like the devs did mention this in 1 dev blog and that is how this shit works.So if you're a consistent enough player you might honestly just only be fulfilling the criteria very few voicelines.And no, I don't think this is a perfect system.Also in general the whole lack of "peaceful" sections then compound this issue too. Basically if the game had more peaceful parts, the characters would talk more, which give them more chances to talk about other things instead of just repeating the conversation #1458.
>>552384352>unique voiceline when under 50% health 10 seconds after a horde and with a female zealot while mercury is in retrogradeHow deep can we go.
Man what are they doing in Auric? they can't dodge, can't push a poxburster, they lag behind, they die to fucking poxwalkers, they don't even do the objectives. I'm tired man, I'm so fucking tired. It was fun to carry them and be the main character the 100 first games but they never learn, never progress, and they refuse to understand that it's ok for them to play a lower difficulty.
>>552384476>Man what are they doing in Auric?Having fun. You having fun or not is irrelevant to them.
>>552384587I refuse to believe the retard dying 3 times while always lagging behind is having fun, I REFUSE
>>552384476>>552310976
>>552384716
What is Christmas like in Cacadia?
>>552385662Cacadia is a muslim planet
wish i never ever installed this shit because it became apparent to me how other "people" are not doing what a bot would dogot all their faggot titles, the $50 cosmetics, everything
Now that the dust has settled, Hive Scum was a waste of class slot.
Finally got my Arbites to lvl 30. There are so many good nodes on Arbites' tree I honestly don't know what to take. Should I just focus on the right side if im doing BTL?
>>552386541>unironically posting heresy scoreboard
>>552386541I am of the opinion that the scoreboard is worthless.In lower difficulties, no shit you're going to be playing with shitters and new players/casuals.And in havoc, raw numbers are highly contextual and lose meaning and raw kills don't tell how 'good' a person actually is compared to target priority and team utility.
is the thunder hammer special attack bugged this patch? It's not doing the special sound effect when hitting a crusher or mauler in the face and im not even sure it's doing bonus damage
>>552388898Have you made sure that's plugged in?
>>552388431
>>552385662Merry CACAsmas, anon!
>>552388431https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0bd702a-60e7-4af5-bf5b-9e39dd5bdfeb/arby-build
>>552310739https://youtu.be/3WkwWwbk0Gw?si=ohEyqpIbrYeRn5CiThis is your average coopniggaJust sad
>>552389949Buy an ad, faggot.
>>552389949Buy an ad
>>552388496its damnation howeverbeen systemically going through penances on every class and now its ogryn and i need 5
I just shat my pants btw
>>552390049unless it's rolling steel that's not enough damage for damnation
>>552389949Fat fuck obese autistic tranny retard.Buy an ad.
>>552389949
>mogged by the TrannerOhnononomo
La creatura de la camera del testos...
The Tranner is the best tide player ever
Best Ogryn pickaxe?
>>552392142Branx if you want the most useful markKarsolas if you want to be brainless
>>552390449we died early
>>552392142Borovian is the most balanced and the branx is the strongest but also the hardest to use
anyone UP 4 HAVOC gamesEU
>>552393386Me but I can only play man with gun
>>552394339i can play woman with staff then4944749582
>>552394796>>552393386I'll hop on as well
>>552394970sorry anon already started :(, if you want i can reply to you after we're done so you can join on the next one
>>552395742Sure thing, I'm in the mood to play
>>552395838you can join now4944749582
Skibidi psyker
H-hey g-guys...re...remember killing floor 3...haha...feels like I am only one left playing it.....
>>552402290Killing what now? This is the Darktide general
>>552400291>Perils of the warp(s) myself
Did I hear a rock and stone?
>>552403867>*hollow, whistling wind*
>>552403867I hear a Cryo is better than Flamer
>>552404791Why would anyone say that when the goo gun exists?
>>552404838Mostly because goo falls off in a bad way when turning on the extra modifiers, especially the one that makes bugs faster.
>>552404791yes>>552404838take a shower
>>552404838Because it gets results.
Flamer >>>>>> every other stupid faggot meme gun
Cryo is fun. Freezing flying shit and seeing it smash down is cool
Can I buy Nightreign yet or is /erg/ still weird and autistic
>>552406218BUY NOW NOW NOW!
Give me the one build that single-handedly solves the most problems that havoc throws at you.
>>552407320Crusher martyrdom zealot with knives and boltgun.
>>552407320flamer bubble psyker
>>552407320rumbler BLO ogryn
Reminder.
>>552409103Hey, at least they are true to their name.
>>552402290>killing floor 3>only 600 players playingThat game is genuinely dead. I'm surprised that the studio hasn't gotten shutdown already such a failure as this.
>>552409520>only 600 players playingIt could always be worse.
>team constantly eats shit in havoc 30s when playing bubble psyker >wonder if im doing something wrong >switch to taunt ogryn bullet magnet>team still eats shit constantly >die like retards trying to pick people up when theyre in the middle of an easily clearable mob im beginning to think the constant shit-eating isn't my fault
>Step away from team to do [important thing]>Hear downed sound(x3)>"Why'd you abandon us, anon?"-_-
>>552410509>[important thing]um chuddie there's 3 poxwalkers to fight I NEED your help!!
>>552410509>>Step away from team to do [important thing]25 Diamantine is not important.
>>552407604What are the deets on this one
>>552410591[Important thing] includes but is not limited to:>Doing the fucking objective>Chasing bombers>Chasing trappers>Getting a clean shot on snipers>Rushing a gunner line>Picking up 25 Diamantine
>>552407320pgun/psword vet
No clue if that disconnect/alt F4 saved the dude from the net, unfortunate if it didnt because we were right in front of the extract heli. Game hung like a motherfucker trying to close so I'm assuming it didn'tThanks for the games anons, I should probably stop for now until tomorrow because my GPU has been turning my room into an inferno
>>552381724Like the other guy said, it’s just the way the dialogue works, sometimes you’re lucky, other times you’re not, although I do find dropping into regular aurics and damnation seems to help>>552385662You mean was
>>552406218It’s still weird and autistic and that’s because of Nightreign dude. Just wait for a sale.
>>55240732050% viscocity crate scum with needle and knoife. The needler is the answer to every threat in the game save for bubble shields. Needle rapes crushers even through rotten armor, and scum in general provides an unreal amount of unyielding damage. Infinite ammo needle means you can kill every single gun mob on the map thrice over and then some. The blitzes are hilariously broken, and rockets can oneshot problem rituals that were triggered by mistake or the bugged maps that are far away.Really the only thing you need is a front that isn't retarded.
Got my first red after ten hours of Kruber did I winWish I played more 2XP ending soon
Is Forever Winter worth it? I don't play extraction shooters and it being pve might help. I do love the visual design though.
>>552412260What flavor MtnDew in the crate
>>552412321the visual design is the one good thing about that game
>>552411750>You mean was"Cacadia stands", everyone says this, it never went anywhere.
>>552410757you bring bubbleand use the flame staff to burn the baddies
>>552412260this exact build is going to get nerfed in some way, don't know how but probably through the needlerit just does absolutely everything and isn't even hard to play because of scum's huge dodges
>>552412485I like rending, the game loves to throw armor at every moment at you so having more rending is generally much more valuable to everyone for both direct damage and DoTs such as blaze or bleed, crit can be useful for psykers and zealot teams, a little more situational though.You really should take the chem grenade most of the time too. The amount of mixed horde clear it provides is nasty. Rocket is situational and only taken if your team lacks much of an 'oh shit' button or is having trouble clearing rituals. or if you for some reason have two scums on your team (you really shouldnt do this)
>>552411695It didn't, but it was a very funny conclusion to some very funny attemptsWe'll get it next time
>>552409868goddamn. this is what happens when you put zero effort into marketing. also when your game is bad.
>>552413048Sad, got real damn close so I feel bad leaving you without a clearance level, especially since that last second rager nuke was legitimately just me panicking and slipped. Better luck tomorrow or whenever you feel like playing again lad
>>552411230*ahem*>>Doing the fucking objectiveis a team effort, you shouldn't leave the team to do it, the team should follow>>Chasing bombersacceptable>>Chasing trappersnot important>>Getting a clean shot on snipersif a snipers is a threat to the team, it means it has LOS on you, which means you have LOS on it, which means you don't have to leave the team to get it>>Rushing a gunner linethis is fine>>Picking up 25 Diamantinei kneel
>>552413356>you shouldn't leave the team to do it, the team should followLOOOOOOLLMFAOOOOHAHAHAHAdownright fucking delusional
>>552413356>it means it has LOS on you, which means you have LOS on it,Except they can shoot you through hordes
>>552413473gun -> spacebar -> left click
>>552413647*randomly jumps while shooting a gun*Weird but okay
>>552413647It didn't hit. Now what?
>>552413715it's my magic trick. I use it to shoot snipers and bombers that hide behind hordes. Guns are still accurate in the air.
>jumps>gets sniped mid air because you couldn't dodge>ACK!
>>552413901try again until you do!
I'm back after a bit. Does Zealot still only have 1 build?
>>552414041Fucking Nurgle giving snipers aimbots.
>>552409904Hast thee tried changing the telekine dome to venting shriek? Instead of creating a safe space for and relying on thy comrades to handle far away threats, thee couldst simply removeth every problem for those folk in a 30 meter cone in front of them every few seconds.
>>552414101It has at least 2. With variations.
>>552403535>use crystaline will offensively to religion of peace groups of specials
>>552412938Very likely. Raw dps and damage numbers is really supposed to be desperado's thing, but it truly does not have much of a reason to exist as long as needle does in its current state because it can fufill much of the same role, and then some with its AP attributes and faster TTKs, which ends up with some hilariously bloated numbers compared to if you had gone desperado.
>>552414101Want to play relic blade zealot?Play greatsword psyker insteadWant to play martyrdom zealot?Play hive scum insteadWant to be my chorus slave?Then the zealot is for you
>>552410509>rolling steel>teammates try to chain revive each other>instead of first killing the sniper that has downed them repeatedly>while busy dealing with the boss, the horde, the two mutants, the tox flamer, and the trapper
>>552413647>jump on spacebar
>>552414994>jump on anything but spacebar
>make ogryn>go for maul and shield for maximum cleave and stagger, pair with taunt>goes pretty well>"why aren't you planting your shield, anon?"...What?
>>552415141this never happened
>>552413356>is a team effort, you shouldn't leave the team to do it, the team should followHave you EVER played the big fan event or the cooling rod event with pubs? They kill poxwalkers on the other side of the map. They ain't doing the objective.
>>552415141I thought they all went extinct but I saw a TOOOOONKgryn a few days ago.
>>552414041This shit has killed me even when I do the dodge movement tech off a ledge, perpendicular to the sniper's line of sight no less. For some reason the moment you're airborne these fuckers just lock the fuck in to montage your ass.
>>552415127Left-alt. Dodge is spacebar since you dodge a lot more than you jump.
>>552415141This literally never happened to anyone ever
>>552415127Spacebar is for dodging, anon.C is to jump.
>>552415441Of course, i'm being hyperbolic for the sake of being argumentative. The keyword is should. Teammates should help. But unfortunately they often don't.
>>552415670Eh, I've been using shift to dodge since Vermintide so it just feels more natural to me. Space has been jump since time immemorial.>>552415989C is to CROUCH and CLIDE.
>>552415127I use V to jumpSpace to dodgeAnd Ctrl to crouch
>>552414760>red beam of death moves over you>loud bleep of death sounds out>POW!!>eat shit>red beam of death moves to next target>get revived>loud bleep of death sounds out>POW!!>other fag eats shit>red beam of death moves over you>revive the other guy>loud bleep of death sounds out>POW!!Clicker training works on dogs, but not these retards.They are literally sub-animal level of intelligence.
>>552415989>Run this same set up in another game that has spacebar dodging my anon!
>>552415597yup. That's why u gotta bait the shot first.
>>552415597>For some reason the moment you're airborne these fuckers just lock the fuck in to montage your ass.I can't tell you how many times I've been peep'd out of the air by a sniper after being thrown by a mutant. I honestly can't even be mad, getting dunked that hard is just impressive.
>>552415597Yep. They can completely miss you with the shot but you still take damage
>>552416379My favorite was getting thrown by a mutant into a BoN and getting eaten before my feet touched the ground.
>>552409868Man why are devs so shit ass now
>>552416379Poxbursted against a wall and getting crusher overheaded before I landed was the wombo combo I suffered.
>>552416647>nowAnon, It's Streumon. They've existed as a lucky fluke since their inception.
>>552416647maybe it's because you and me are too lazy to save gaming
>>552416379It's always fucking kino when that happens. I laugh every time.
Whats the major archetype even missing in DT now anyway? Summoner? Is it just going to be necromancer but with like servo skulls or some shit or is that to cool and to much effort
>>552414174i have and people tend to eat shit before we drop out of spawn cause my bubble isnt there to secure them from the one reaper they struggle to kill
UwUlfric
>>552417147Wasteland shaman that summons giant rats.
>>552414174I like venting shriek on non ritual maps so I dont accidentally trigger it.Every single map I have gotten in the past three weeks are rituals.
>>552417147Engineer
>>552416816Ha didn't see the studio, the euro jank is part of their DNA and cannot be removed.
>>552417147Summoner, including TF2 engineer turretsDedicated support/force multiplier "aura bot" whatever you want to call it (something with an active gameplay focus on it, rather than the incidental shit zealot gets)Loot goblin (buffs for picking shit up, extra crate finds, etc.)Pickup/objective delegation (think: sending a servo skull to pick up ammo, plasteel, or automatically hacking an objective, perhaps slower than a player would)
I just use the default dodge and jump combo option on spacebar.
KEELL THE INTRUDAHS!!
>>552417749I could see a laybrother of the cog but not a full on techpriest. Any techpriest that did a naughty would be stripped down for parts and servitorized before they could ever be sent to a penal legion.
>>552417918You should not do this because there are instances where you will want to jump but you are forced to dodge. There is also an option for 'force dodge' or something like that that basically turns a neutral dodge into a backwards dodge. With this set up you can neutral jump, neutral dodge, jump backwards, jump left or right, and dodge backwards or dodge left and right.
>>552418002DLC classes aren't penal troops.
>>552418002this >>552418145, arbites specifically refers to teammates as rejects
>>552418002Hive Scum and Arbitrators don't get the reject prologue. Scum are brought on as mercs and Arbites intervenes because Grendyl and Zorin are getting impatient with the whole situation. Only the original four are rejects, but even they eventually become full on inquisition troops, that's the whole point of the trust levels.
>>552418002oh my goooood who caaaares about the reject theme? shut uuuuup
looks like shit on krieg set, the fuck am I supposed to use it
>>552417147The bare hand brawler that fights hand to hand and kicking Like Jackie Chan but racist to aliens
Wasn't arbitrator busted at launch too? Didn't play very much only thing I remember is the dog being a bleed monster that hit everything in its path with stacks of DOT
>>552419057how would they give this class melee weapons to choose between and upgrade?Different combat styles? That you have to spend plasteel on?
>>552419272Yeah the bleed was fucked on launch. It's fixed now and the talent is arguably just not worth taking (out of the way). GreencircleFRIENDS will cry otherwise.
>>552419272Arbitrator was bugged at launch and received several hotfixes that actually broke the class more and more until dog bleed was about 3-5x as strong as it was supposed to be, which was fixed soon after, but they went on vacation after completely breaking the keystone Execution Order into non-functionality with a bunch of other talents remaining half-functional.
>>552419487>dog bleed is le badStop peddling misinformation you fucking retard.
>>552419730There he is. >posted 3 times alreadyJust yet another izzat-baiter.
>>552412315are you some kind of hyper wage slave?who hasn't reached max level on all characters yet...
>>552419834>receives numeric proof of [supposed bad thing] being quantifiably useful in content of a higher difficulty than he is ever capable of having any hopes of beating>baitN'wah
>>552419730what kind of scoreboard mod is that, how is it so pretty
>>552420012Some people have only picked up V2 recently, as Steam gave it away for free to keep awhile ago.
>>552419487You just got fucking destroyed >>552419730
>that level>female voicewhy are female people so autistic?
>>552350664>i'm glad my game is dying and the playerbase is getting worse as it shrinkslol retard
>>552420062Power DIIt's questionably useful as a "scoreboard" because it's far too extensive to quickly view mid match, but it's extremely useful for post-game analysis since it neatly tracks a lot of stuff. It's also fully updated.Be aware that you might need to occasionally clear the saved matches, it's historically run into some performance issues if you have a lot of saved games for some reason. If you ever experience stutters, clearing Power DI saves should be the first thing you try.
>>552420149oh, i wouldn't know
>>552419834His dog is doing more damage than you and it doesn't go down all the time
>only thing that feeds condition is bleedRagebaiter at it again, usual hours.
>>552420505>implying I'd use a Puncture meme gun when Mk III shotgun existsN'wah.
>>552420505The "usual hours" keep changing. How about you just grow up and admit that you're wrong?
i'm feeling lazy brown serfswhich mod is crashing my game when i pickup ammo
>>552420417Yeah, I mean, why would Steam tell you about a free game that you already paid for?
>>552420767It's crazy how much smarter you are than him. Everyone can clearly see that except the retard himself
>>552420178the few femtists that exist and don't find a cultural niche to draw simp bucks of some kind from are raised to be delusional by abusive parents and wind up in a pocket universe where no man woman or child (camera, tv) can reach theminevitably they drown in some arcane hobby and match with a blue collar worker who subsists on a diet of cigarettes and non-diet soda
>3 Blitzes>Summon servo skulls that follow you around and kill or collect shit, Stationary turrets, Shoulder Laser>"Stimm Lab" Feature is choosing specific upgrades for these call it tech lab or someshit idkNow who is competent enough at fagshart to do this
>>552420954>too lazy to hit win+R and paste %appdata%\Fatshark\Darktide\console_logs>too retarded to read an easily navigated logWho's brown here exactly?
>>552421258>Who's brown here exactly?Me. But only below the waist(I shit myself)
>>552421258thank you for the (you)while i am white, i am also a ginger and need a steady diet of yous to keep from vanishing
>>552421241>fire one bullet>servo skull automatically sucks up a big ammo packOh that would be so funny
Sofoni is giving me psychic kisses in my mortis trials. I can't focus.
>>552421395Maybe they could be like bardin ranger and generate ammo on certain amount of kills or some shit
>>552421407sefoni is built for sapphic romance with my femme scum in the outer reaches of the galaxy only
>>552421395>servo skull automatically seeks out ammo and delivers it to the lowest % ammo player>it griefs the entire team by vending ammo to the fucking Pickpocket scumI can already tell that this is going to be a thing, and that it'll receive numerous complaints until they finally add a check against Pickpocket, because they didn't think that far, because they don't play their own fucking game the faggot Sw*des..
>>552421592They do play it though. On Malice.
>>552419730bro dropped the muhfuggin' receipt on his brown ass
>>552420993why did you call them "people" though?
>>552421796>everyone in my superior race instinctually all purchased this one product all at once together because of It's just easier to call you stupid.
>>552418736Ok then, lets get space marines! No, custodes! No, PRIMARCHS! YEAH THEY CAN HAVE AN EMPEROR DLC CLASS FUCK YEAH!
>>552417174Just play more aggressively then (You)r staff and ability can suppress those ranged mobs.>>552417331Out of all the time I've played that build I've seen maybe like two or three rituals where that could happen and it really doesn't warrant swapping off it.
>>552419487holy shit you're retarded
>>552421949lighten up Chang
>>552422375Simmer down, Kyle.
>>552422037oh my god you're so duuuuumb
>>552421241>servo skulls that follow you around and kill or collect shit...don't make me remember Warframe fondly. I can't go back. I can't g
>>552422465
>>552419487I bet he's the same guy who keeps posting about full bore mark 3 executioner for "ammo-dumping on monsters!". He also reminds me of the guy who kept baiting people into some shit-ass Ripper setup long ago. All of these things (dog bleed, full bore mark 3, and ripper) are things that quickly break when you try them in the meat-grinder, but of course he's preying on the fact that the vast majority of "people" here won't and don't ever do that.
>>552422783Wowzers. Detective Retard is on the case!
>>552420767>that reading comprehensionDamn, you're retarded. Try again, anon.
>>552422783>when you try them in the meat-grinder>mfw he's a fucking psykhaniumsissy """theorycrafter"""I'm too busy winning havoc 40s to listen to your hardstuckie babblekys
>>552423047>testing things is badOf course you'd be upset over the fact that there's one person here who can and does verify what is said here, as you know most don't.Also: >>552423034 managed to reread yet, ragebaiter?>>552422979Seen you before >>551865112 get some new material.
>>552422783if literal proof isn't enough to convince you you're wrong, then nothing every will be
>>552423254They're for sure the izzatschizo who got so upset when he got BTFO when anons shown video after video about sprint-heavies in the meat-grinder. He has been branded and enslaved by the idea of the meat-grinder since.
All 3 techpriest voices are S-tier. I have full confidence that fatshark wouldn't fuck up the voices for a techpriest class
>>552423034>arbitrator magically has DoT damage types that aren't bleedOkay, list them.>muh shock DoTWow, a whole 5000 shock DoT over the course of an entire match, how relevant.>>552423254>>testing things is badTry testing in a real world scenario where enemies actually fight back, tranner.>only a single (You)Holy fucking schizo take your meds
>>552412315Unfortunately you got one of the two meh guns instead of the one good gun.
>>552423034You are in no position to call anyone a "retard". The only way "people" like you can be useful is by being enslaved and forced to serve people like him, fulfilling each and everyone of his mundane desires, as well as ferocious sexual desires
>>552423550...they're not calling you a samefag, retard. Bottom two use the same term. Learn to read dude holy shit you're so upset that you can't even read.
Here's you are waifu bro
>>552423254testing things in a vacuum is not great. testing things in an actual game, where enemies fight back, and then checking the results in scoreboard spreadsheet, is way better
>>552423254Take your meds before you hurt someone or rape a child or something holy shit what a schizo incel
>>552423680>copying what other people say and just projecting sexual frustrations on a video game threadYeah pretty clear you've lost>>552423846yep, in-game even worse as fullbore requires every pellet to hit and the damage isn't worth it, even when fully-invested into it. hence why it's easy to see how in-game (mission) is even worse.
>>552423773>tells me there is no hope for me>calls me a sinner>tells me I won't be missed>tells me that even prayers are wasted on meShe's so tsundere it's cute.
>UGA BOOGA UNGA DUNGA BIX NOODS MAHFAKA WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET YOMAKE IT STOPPLEASE
>>552423846Don't listen to this retard >>552423956
>>552423887Meant for >>552423680
>>552423956well we weren't talking about helbores, we were talking about dog bleed
>>552423956>he doesn't know why the blessing is even being takenIt's for hitting two-shot breakpoints on reapers and bulwarks, how fucking retarded are you? Why are you hyper-fixating on le epique monster meme? Why are you autisming over the second best blessing on a gun that has no other worthwhile blessings? Do you even fucking play arbitrator? Have you ever even so much as dreamed of reaching havoc 40 in the first place? Dumb hardstuck retard.
>>552424125Thanks for conforming that it struck your nerve
>>552424216Anon...PLEASE learn to read. What is wrong with you. How many times do I have to remind you to read.
I can't bring myself to get 30 lvl for hive cumIt's incredibly disgusting and depressingThe only thing that brings me joy is female voice of bounty hunter
>Still no punching weapon like brass knuckles for ogrynWhy do they hate this class so much bros
>>552423773>in the grim darkness of the far future there's no racism or homophobia and everyone is uglymakes you think
>>552424261He's a retard. Your sensible posts are wasted on subhuman tranny filth like him
>>552424405Not really because the standard of beauty will have shifted. It ALWAYS does. Traditional Beauty will still be coveted but "Modern Beauty" will break through. For fuck's sake there are people in this very thread who would fuck a toaster if it was in red robes, augmented, and a chastising NEEEERRRRRRD.
>>552424369>barbed wire wraps - lower damage but gives bleed stacks>brass knuckles - strikedown combos>spent artillery shell "gloves" - slower punches, heavy sweeps for horde clear
>>552424261>let me take a widespread shotgun with full bore just to run up into melee to shoot and not melee!True!>>552424473>tranny out of nowhere>more sexual desires out of nowhereObsessed etc.
>>552424693>tranny out of nowhereTRANNY FROM THE TOP ROPE>you bust into the thread
>>552424536dude this is a shitposting thread for being retarded about politics while getting into pointless arguments about a dead end gamego literally anywhere else if you want to be modern and facile about stuff.
>>552424693>what is maul & shield>what is the concept of using a weapon that has poor to mediocre unyielding damage>what is the very idea of using a ranged weapon to quickly dispatch high value targets your melee weapon can'tRight. It always circles back to you retard not acknowledging what the best arbitrator melee is, and HARD slaving fully cooldown maxxed BTL memes, then having a bitchfit about the director daring to send more than 2 bosses your way, while I'm over here just shitting all over them harder than I'm doing right now, down your throat.
>>552424907Freak Status: Bodied
typical maelstrom
FUCK BEASTMEN I FUCKING HATE FUCKING NIGGER BEASTMEN FUCK
>>552425003finally found your ideal gender presentation, huh?
Knew I've seen this episode before.>>552135724>auric>>552135223>Full Bore because it does everything you need, including cleave, but also works against monsters, which it's very good against.This general really is the same thing repeatedly.
>>552425108Confidently CIS? Sure.
>>552423773Thanks Sanjay
>>552425246Yes, that's me. These things are fact. If you were to use that melee weapon and that gun, you would realize why those decisions are being made.You are just too much of a sub-human to put 2+2 together. You do not play arbitrator. You do not play havoc 40. You are an obsessed schizo searching the archives to """prove a point""" when the point you're proving is literally against your favor. YWNBATS. I will never accept your shitbuilds into my havocs. Stay out of my aurics. In fact, stay out of my game. Don't breathe my oxygen. You are a hopeless dead-end faggot and should kill yourself.
>>552425103You know what's crazy about the beastman faction? They genuinely just want the world to end. No winners. All losers. And they eat who they conquer. Crazy, right?
>>552425538You've been outed and as a consequence have lost. Time to move on.
>>552425246That's the resident schizo. You can scroll through any thread from the past month amd you'll see him raging at random anons while accusing them all of being the same person
>>552425580So they're basically IRL niggers?
>>552424536It always cracks me up when the same people who go "eeww gross how can you like that" turn around and start squeezing their hog to a fucking meatball with cables and glowing lenses sticking out of it.
>>552425643>everyone that disagrees with me is the same person>calls others schizolol
>>552421353>>552421735many such cases>>552421587yuritroons out
>>552425643Most posts that get called "resident schizo" do actually look the same. It's doubly amusing when you take breaks from the general (even taking 1-3 days away) and coming back and you can just tell it's the same shit, same homo, same "logic", same attack style nearly every time. Pathetic.>>552424216Did this guy rope himself? Able to answer yet?>Helbore
>>552425821This is exactly the type of schizo shit you're being called out for
>>552425918But I'm not getting called schizo, lmao. I'm >>552425246Learn to read you pathetic dickhead trying to put >>552425643 's target as me and not you. What a loser.
>>552425680>half of the player base when hadron says "testy"
>>552424994>BTL out of nowhereYou getting this upset just shows he is right.Also I know who you are, Shai.
>>552426147Who the fuck is Shai
>>552425538>Yes, that's me.>>>552425697>wait, no, it isn't me!lol
>look away for an hour>thread goes to shitLol
>>552415554>For Sigmar! uwu
>>552426106Sorry. I didn't mean nothing by it. I got my phone in one hand and and my dick in the other and i just can't keep track of which one is which!
>>552426147>ShaiGreat, so it's another named retard like velcrospiderman. And I've no idea what he meant with "HARD slaving fully cooldown maxxed BTL memes" does he mean I do that? He's obsessed with aquila he's made that clear over and over but wait that means I know he's the same guy and that's a no-no to him. Just magic how I know every time.
>>552426296meds
>>552420767Vivec was right and this is objectively true >>552421147Why non-diet
>>552425680It's always split hairs with these niggers.
>>552425329look if you want to identify as a system or whatever the fuck keep it to yourself and your psychiatrist
>>552426508Also correctly called samefag here >>552425246 too. Whoopsie.
>>552426508I think BTL is grossly overrated in havoc 40 specifically and that Nuncio is fucking incredible for boss-rushes, but I have no idea who the fuck this Shai faggot is.>t. refuses to play havoc with /copeg/ and never once posted his name
>>552426538idk but its a surprisingly common flyover state pairing
>>552426759>never posted nameDon't need to. The other greencircles faggot (scoreboard mod, not RetardDI) just picks a name at random in his game and insists they're a copegger. Funny how every scoreboarder is a cocksucker huh, and people reliably pick them out each time.
>>552426979I post scoreboards with regularity and I have no idea who Shai is.>that's what Shai would saySchizo faggot.
>>552419057that’s not a thing>>552418002they don’t necessarily get servitorized some of them are just thrown out an air lock too also they could just be someone Grendyl knows something damning about and have agreed to help him to keep him quiet
>>552425246>pic>Mk VIIDoes this poser even play Arbitrator?
>>552418563It was the Grand Marshal who was doing them a courtesy and standing aside and got impatient, Grendyl wanted them to stay at bay
>>552426325We need more lolis in Warhammer I think it would be funny and cool haha
I should play more arbitrator in havoc 40 and post screenshots so I can bait the resident schizo into fucking killing himself when dog bleed does more damage than this dumb faggot's average damage in heresy (which is the highest difficulty he plays).
Mindbroken.
>one side posts quantifiable proof>the other side just has schizo meltdownsI'm noticing
>>552427987Everyone does more dmg in higher difficulties, you psychologically enslaved and buckbroken spastic. Genuine no-meme neck yourself ASAP my man, it'll not only be good for you, but for all of copeg united! In Atoma.
>>552428232>Everyone does more dmg in higher difficultiesI mean, (You) don't, because you get filtered before ever getting there.
What is the point of double stab pistols? Mediocre accuracy and damage, terrible stopping power, and no penetration of enemies or armor. I don't see any reason not to drop this shit and take a bolt pistol.
>heresy out of nowhereBLAM obsessed too
resident schizo is crashing out hard as fuck rn
>>552425246Well it's just one annoying retard who's also samefagging to drown better opinionsSamefagging should be a bannable offense
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>552428520there's more than one
>>552424261>>552424473posts are exactly 2 minutes apart btwat least get a passcode, retard
>>552426508im Shai and im going to Shait on your head, bitch
Shai?More like, Shait!
>>552426508Shai is a jewtuber who makes lot of videos on arby, specific name Providence, some of his vids have been posted here. Like that "typical H40 start" where it's him and his team getting gangbanged by 6 bosses even though they have chorus zealot with them.It's obvious that he talks in these threads.Especially so because his build specifically is a nonceio aquila with shock mines + dog, while using the flash shield and mk3 shotguns that is constantly getting shilled here.He isn't very good at the game.
>>552428769Your medication, saar?
>>552429112>Like that "typical H40 start" where it's him and his team getting gangbanged by 6 bosses even though they have chorus zealot with them.But aquila with fullboring mk3 is supposed to be king there, what happened? The rhetoric just crumbled!
>>552429112You can tell that schizo that any random anon is someone specific and he'll instantly fall for it. I recommend you try it out some time
>>552326165>S ranksDoing anything less lethal in that game felt like shit. I ended up giving zero fucks about ranks and just tried to keep civvies alive.
>>552429112I hate content parasites, jewtubers, streamers etc all the more. What a disgusting faggot.>>552429525What does this even mean? You feel threatened so you hastily slapped up some nonsense.
>>552429112Oh, that guy. I think I saw the video posted some time ago and just laughed it off as some schizo assuming I'm him. Never clicked the video. I assume you're the same schizo, but thank you for finally fucking clarifying.>some random faggot accidentally uses a good build and plays it like shit, therefore everyone suggesting to use such a build is that same guyPlease, I beg of you, for your own good and the rest of the thread. take your haloperidol, chlorpromazine, or whatever the fuck. You evidently, desperately need it.
>>552429112>google video>no shock mines>no mk3 shotty>no btlno that's not him, our resident retard is incapable of playing different weaponsalso he's incapable of making his own build so he clearly follows someone else blindly, recently he was redoing his shield because his idol told him dumping defense is bad (which it is but it's still funny)
>>552429625Ignore that guy. That's just Tanner Linberg
>>552329360Well, you see, the future is both dark and grim
>>552429673The correct dump stat on flashbang shield is penetration. This is objective truth, and I've stopped caring to elaborate, just search the archive, I've made several posts about why.
>>552429869You've outed yourself as not playing havoc with suggesting that.>>552429673>no btlBut the schizo uses and keeps spamming about aquila, newfriend.
>>552429970I've won more havoc 40s than you've ever played havoc games in your entire life thougheverbeit, hardstuckie-san.
>>552429673>no shock mine>click on random latest vid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02hWJh7CzWE>shock mineWhy you lyin'?
>>552429970I was pretty sure he uses btlI can be wrong but I don't recall him mentioning aquilla even once
>>552430128>he's genuinely mindbroken enough to unironically believe some random faggot jewtuber is [anon that disagreed with him once]Okay, can we pull back the curtain real quick? Drop the mask, drop the funny haha trolling?Like, actually?Do you really unironically believe that?Do you have some untreated mental conditions we (and (You)) should be worried about?
>>552430376Where does that post say that?
>>552430128>changed build>lone wolf>no shottyyou just keep proving yourself wrongour retard plays dog + shock mines and pretends everyone fuels grenades his retarded ass in H40
>>552430453It was heavily implied, and even if the quoted post exactly doesn't believe that, the anon that first mentioned the jewtuber clearly seems to believe so.
>>552430540I'm not >>552429112Just seeing that I clicked on a random vid and seen they used something you said they don't use.>everyone fuels grenades his retarded ass in H40Oh, ESL, I see now.
>>552430540>our retardwe have like 50 of those
>>552429112>Especially so because his build specifically is a nonceio aquila with shock mines + dog, while using the flash shield and mk3 shotguns that is constantly getting shilled here.It's not like Arby weapon choice has a ton of variety, and Shield + MK3 is one of its best combos. I don't know how this generic (aside form running mines with dog) build is any sort of giveaway to you.
Obey my Rat!
>>552430540>our retard [plays correctly]wtf I love coopg retards now?
>>552430082sent that freak flying
>>552430874>(aside form running mines with dog)It's not like remote det does all that much in havoc, besides stunning bosses, which you already have vet and/or zealot, ogryn for anyway. Not worth losing the utility of locking down choke points over.
>>552329485>>552429867Not the reason we’re just le rejects o algo
For me, it's Arbimaul and Shotpistol w/ shield. My strats are as follows: I make sure the enemies get a chance to shoot at my shield so it goes *pling! pling! pling!* and then i shoot them in the face and it makes me feel powerful.Then I hit my enemies with the maul and if it's a lights out mission I make sure to use the special WZZZH attack because it makes a very cool blue flash. The dog does whatever it wants and i gave it both BLEED and SHOCK. And then i win.
>>552431260I wasn't arguing for or against it. I was just saying that it wasn't so incredibly common.
>still have my aquilas from buying the game>still have the 1000 free aquilas>still buy the 4000 first time purchase bundleI'm such a fat fucking worthless pay piggy. I'll be buying the next class and hating it day 1 too
>>552431726Go ahead anon, enjoy the slop. It's the only thing a piggy like you should be eating.
Left >>552431446Right >>552419730
>>552431456>I was just saying that it wasn't so incredibly common.How (un)common is it, exactly? From memory, I remember a vaguely 50/50 split between LW and dog arbitrators in havoc 40, and, out of the dog arbitartors, mostly retarded players running remote det, and most obviously good builds bringing shock mines that they hopefully likely never need.>what kind of retardI'm taking builds that don't take Soulguilt Scan and the Target the Weak, which, those that don't, I decline by default without checking anything else.
>>552431726>I'm such a fat fucking worthless pay piggy.This sounded extremely sexually kinky for some reason. If you want I can wear high heels and step on you.
>been a while since I used plasma>test it out in training to get a feel again>try max charged shots vs normal ones>24 heat with fully charged shot = 9 ammo = 2405 damage chest shot mauler non crit>6 heat with normal shot = 3 ammo = 1263 Damage chest shot mauler non crithuh, what about that rework obese fish? too scared to piss off veteran pissbabies? lady needs a rework
>>552431879Exactly how autistic do you wanna be about this?
>>552432221>how autistic is a known ragebait schizo?
>>552432221Just asking for clarifications and second opinions, is all. Not trying to start an argument or anything, just trying to get a better understanding.Maybe I SHOULD be extra autistic about it, and record every arbitrator that applies to my havoc games. Might make for interesting data.
>>552432279He isn't ratebaiting. He's just spitting facts that make you shit your diaper with rage because he dares to disagree with retards like you
>>552432279Who? The guy I was replying to? I can't tell people apart from their posting style most of the time. It didn't seem like rage bait to me.>>552432379You're already being kind of autistic about it by honing in on and trying to super-specify what I meant by excluding dog+mine from being generic. I'm not keeping statistics about the people I run into, but the generic pairings are definitely still LW+mine and dog+explo. Dog+mine is relatively rarer. Doesn't mean nobody runs it.
>>552432449>He isn't ratebaiting. He's just spitting factsFacts and hard data are effectively ragebait for overly emotional retards who make every decision based on vibes (which ends in getting hardstuck around havoc 26~27 with the rest of them), so he isn't strictly wrong.
>>552432730Notice how he never brings any receipts. His opinions are only supported by his ego and delusions
>>552432717>You're already being kind of autistic about itSure.Tangentially, I think it really might be worth being extra autistic about it and coming up with some kind of data collection tool, but that's going to be quite a lot of effort. I don't mind delving deep into the autism if I can find the necessary time and motivation.>I'm not keeping statistics about the people I run into, butYeah, that lines up with my observations, that's all I wanted to know. I just find it weird that people seem to need some kind of external validation or permission to run dog WITHOUT remote detonation. It's not terrible, but I sincerely believe it to be worse than shock mines, even if you only ever throw 2-4 for the entire game.
>>552432730>>552432964he doesn't belong in this general. we should bully that freak until he kills himself
>>552433119>even if you only ever throw 2-4 for the entire game.How shit are you if you use this many. Most games you don't even throw 1.>inb4 you just throw them at the slightest breeze
who cares
>H40 Consignment Yard>Final area is literally 50 fucking gunners/Plasmaguners>Highground, lowground, completely covering every surface>Not able to peek any of them for 0.1 seconds without getting obliterated>WipeGo fuck yourself you faggot fucking swedesinb4 that one fucking autistic retard calls it a positioning issue or some gay shit.
>>552433363Let me guess, you bitch about bubble psyker.>b-b-but no wai-You wiped. Now wipe your ass and rethink yourself.
>>552433363>positioning issueIf you didn't want to get fucked in the ass then you shouldn't have been on all fours
>>552433252>How shit are you if you use this many. Most games you don't even throw 1.Better to waste that 1 mine you never needed, than to have needed it and eat shit as a result. You get 2 in reserve anyway, and I completely agree with your observation that you shouldn't even need them in the first place, but that only validates throwing out your 2/2 mine when you suspect things might go bad, and keep the 1/2 mine for when you KNOW things will go bad.There are definitely games where I don't even use one. Depends on how steady and reliable the team is. But I'd rather use a mine I didn't need, before things to bad.Also depends somewhat on the lineup. If there's a scum, I'll definitely think twice before I waste a precious grenade pickup. If it's just vet + knife zealot, I'll gladly "waste" them.
im download fartdark after only playing it for like 3 months on releasewhat class do i play
My missions? FlawlessMy ass? Caked with shitI NEVER wipe
>>552433641You play zealot and you have fun. Then you play psyker and you have fun.
>>552431726I still haven’t bought the Scum honestly. It’s just so lame…
>>552433363Ability rotation is probably the play here. Chorus -> bubble -> shout can let you cross a massive distance. Get a better position. Obviously depends on your team comp.
>>552433641Zealot to learn the basics of melee
>>552433682the price of winning
>>552433119What's the payoff from doing something like that? I don't see how it'd be helpful for any of us. Fatshark would be another story, but lmao.>I just find it weird that people seem to need some kind of external validation or permission to run dog WITHOUT remote detonationEh, I can sort of get it, especially in Havoc with Party Finder. It's a sort of self-perpetuating problem. Someone might be afraid to run something "off-meta" (in their mind anyway) and risk getting declined for it. So if people still see dog+mine as off-meta, they might avoid it because of that. Therefore, even if it's better in the Havoc climate than dog+explo, it'll remain off-meta and those people will still shy from using it.
>>552433641Zealot to learn the basics of melee, while also having a bail-out crutch to help you for when you're shit.Psyker when you have a solid grasp of the fundamentals.Veteran is also a good class to get into, but easily falls into the trap of overusing melee.Ogryn is pretty different to the other classes and will have to build its own habits. Play it if you love the idea of being a big retard, but be aware of how different it can be.DLC scum is very hard for inexperienced/rusty players.DLC arbitrator will build bad habits by being the EZmode infinite tank class, but is pretty fun and rewarding in the higher difficulties.
>>552434042It smells so fucking bad
>>5524336413rd for zealot.
>be me>veteran>in the middle of combat>swinging my shovel (fixed, fuck that hinge shit) like a madman>*ding*Wot?>start looking around>see a fucking bell hanging off a cart or some shit>swing>*ding*>mfw
>>552433641Any, anon, it doesn't matter. Learn as you go up the difficulties. No point playing a class that you don't gel with but force yourself on it because some retard on copeg goes "uhhh x is best, y is bad!". Pick any that look/sound 'cool' to you, and if you don't like it, try another. Same principle as any and other VIDEO GAME, Dorktide is no exception.
>>552434065>What's the payoff from doing something like that?Data is always useful. If not for the purpose of developing an effective build, then for the purpose of vaguely gauging other players. Statistics, averages, and means are about the most objective ways of judging how useful something is. It's obviously a matter of sample size, and whatever fluctuating range of error you want to give it, but if [x thing] has an obvious +20% win rate over [y thing], that should be the most easily measured metric about how good/bad thing is.For example, and I admit there's probably some bias here, but I'm pretty sure I've had more losses with dueling sword + plasma + weapons specialist veterans, than I've had with literally everything else. Having data to back that up would be extremely nice.>Someone might be afraid to run something "off-meta"Fuck them. Competent havoc 40 hosts frequently accept builds that make logical sense, even if it doesn't make immediate sense to them personally. Besides, when it comes to shock mines, anyone that competently plays havoc 40 already knows, through sheer trial and error, that remote det spam doesn't do enough, and that shock mine spam is COMPLETELY unnecessary.Also, anecdotally, while I host most of my games, I'm also accepted in more games that I apply to than I'm being declined from, with my weird dog + mines + nuncio build, so I must be doing something right. I also win a lot of games so, again, I must be doing something right.
>>552434704Oh fuck, there are other bells?I only know of the bell near the elevator in the carnival stimms map
>>552433641Arbitrator and Hive Scum are really fun, they're well worth the purchase.The rest of the cast have fallen behind, in my opinion, and you can tell the developers put extra care into the different personalities and talent trees of the DLC classes. Just my 2 cents. :)
>>552434734He doesn't know. Why do you think he asked? Unhelpful prick
>>552434145>Veteran is also a good class to get into, but easily falls into the trap of overusing melee.Overusing ranged*, whoops.Think: Retard vet ADS-ing some random target only to get his ass gaped by some poxwalker. You see those a lot in lower difficulties. Don't be that guy. Wear headphones and listen to audio cues, and learn to melee. Vet is actually really really good at melee.
>>552435006Actually most helpful, honest, and truthful post. You feel targeted as you're one of the "play THIS class!" idiots.
>>552434890I don't remember exactly where we were, looked like a makeshift market with some starts that lead upwards. Really wouldn't be surprised of there are more bells.
>>552435117Being really helpful by giving him no place to start and by refusing to answer his question. How do you think he will figure out which class he likes? By playing them. Which class will teach him how the play the other classes? The zealot?Stupid fucking midwit
>>552434840>If not for the purpose of developing an effective build, then for the purpose of vaguely gauging other players.I don't think it would help me develop a build at all. If anything, if you were to design your build with usage stats in mind, I'd be concerned about falling victim to popularized misinformation, like people who run Shield of Contempt in Aurics now that youtubers put it into their Havoc builds, even though it's far worse in Auric where player skill is low, and the CD gets wasted easily to random bullshit. And that's not even one of the worst case scenarios. I wanna say it's been popular to have contradictory talent selections at times, but I can't remember specifics, so maybe that's just headcanon. >Statistics, averages, and means are about the most objective ways of judging how useful something is.This is predicated on the efficacy of the people designing and piloting these builds though, and I don't think that's a reliable metric. Unless maybe you're talking exclusively about pooling from H40 lobbies. If you are, and I was misunderstanding that, fair enough. But otherwise, I think you'd get a lot of bad data contributed by mouthbreathers who don't actually test shit or look at more descriptive information (like the data extracted Steam guides)There are other biases to worry about too. For instance, with you example of DS+Plasma+WS, that's a build that's popular as the cookie cutter Vet H40 build, right? (I don't play Vet in Havoc) If it is, then that's a significantly biasing factor that wouldn't show up in data because not only is it something that Havoc beginners will congregate to (equating to a lower average skill level than veterans of H40s), it'll also be something that the people who've played a lot of H40 Vet have grown tired of, so they may've moved on to other builds for some variety. But you wouldn't see that in the statistics, so they'd be skewed to imply that the build is inferior.cont...
>>552435547whoah there go easy on the retard. he didn't mean nothing by it he's just a little slow
>>552433641they're all viable so pick whatever you think is cool and know none of them are significantly worse than the others
>>552434840....cont>Competent havoc 40 hosts frequently accept builds that make logical sense, even if it doesn't make immediate sense to them personallySure, but it's a question of how the people applying are thinking, not a question of reality. Also, how many hosts actually ARE so competent at screening entries? That's meant rhetorically; I have no idea.>Besides, when it comes to shock mines, anyone that competently plays havoc 40 already knows, through sheer trial and error, that remote det spam doesn't do enough, and that shock mine spam is COMPLETELY unnecessary.>unnecessaryDepends on your team. I've had games where I was very glad to be running LW+mine because 2 or more of my teammates were not very competent, so it very much helped dragged them through the game. That said, I don't host. I want to put as little effort into party finder as possible, and I accept the consequences of doing so.>I also win a lot of games so, again, I must be doing something right.Anon, I wasn't saying dog+mines is bad. I was just saying that it was *relatively* uncommon. That's literally it. I understand and agree with the thought process behind the selection.
>>552378857It's a Squat, baby!(just pretend the wrench is a crowbar)
I would love a mod that collects stats like >winrate per class>winrate per loadout>winrate per team comp etc. Deaths too, damage taken, damage done totals. Just total statistics autism so you can compare the amount of times you die or win with a dueling sword to the amount of times you die with other weps, and so on.
>>552435742>Unless maybe you're talking exclusively about pooling from H40 lobbies. If you are, and I was misunderstanding that, fair enough.Yeah, that's more or less what i meant. Which obviously runs into a sample size issue if I were to develop such a tool and only run it myself in the half dozen games I run each week, assuming I don't win my first run for the week, and then also stick with the group in case 1-2 party members are trying to grind their assignment to 40. Sometimes I really do just play that one W for the weekly. I'm not ashamed to admit that I usually enjoy aurics (usually with a friend) more than havocs.>DS+Plasma+WS,Agreed. There's definitely some bias here, and the whole meta component of what people think is good, what bad players think is good, what is actually good, and how all of that plays out in practice.My personal observation is that, while the build is indeed good enough, only idiots still play that exact build, and every good player has at least adjusted to change for piss tag instead of WS, and even then, dueling sword + plasma is a huge red flag for me, and I'd sooner accept some gigachad confident meme build.>>552436219>Also, how many hosts actually ARE so competent at screening entries?I have no data on that, so I can't give a confident answer. Anecdotally, it seems to be a majority. The few times I do apply to lobbies, we tend to end up with a reasonable lineup with reasonable builds. And I get accepted more often than I get declined.>2 or more of my teammates were not very competent, Yeah, of course. But as you said, that's a matter of filtering out retards, which is a cost you have to pay for when not hosting. LW mines isn't strictly bad, it just excels as being a crutch for bad teams and shitters, which I strongly believe should be avoided in the first place.>I was just saying that it was *relatively* uncommon.Oh I wasn't disagreeing. I actually agree, as sad as it is to admit.
>>552434192You know what they say, "Lucky in game, smelly in ass."
>>552437136>And I get accepted more often than I get declined.How is this even worth mentioning. This would apply to everybody barring some bottom 1% children who spam apply to like H40 when they have zero rank, title etc. So many retards get accepted into all sorts as well too. The average host does not vet for shit.
personally I stopped playing havoc because I got tired of waiting 20 mins to play each game because of the party finder autismI prefer to play aurics with retards and a bad build. I call this H40-at-home
>>552437136>I'm not ashamed to admit that I usually enjoy aurics (usually with a friend) more than havocs.Havocs aren't something I can play with extreme repetition either. Part of that is because of how aggravating I find party finder, but a large part is how grueling Havoc often ends up being and how annoying some of the modifiers can be. I really wish they'd put a difficulty in above Auric that kept damage and health values the same but upped enemy count and boss count tremendously (yes, I know that's what Auric is already supposed to be, but it's not eonugh). Doing the high intensity variants of the last event were absolute peak Darktide, and it's a shame they're gone. So much more fun than regular Aurics or Havocs.>But as you said, that's a matter of filtering out retards, which is a cost you have to pay for when not hosting. LW mines isn't strictly bad, it just excels as being a crutch for bad teams and shitters, which I strongly believe should be avoided in the first place.Yeah, but avoiding them means way more time spent in the tedium of PF instead of playing the actual game. I just don't care enough to bother.
>>552437814>How is this even worth mentioning.I exclusively play havoc 40, barring reset climbs. I find that most havoc 40s very much do tend to vet applicants. Maybe this is an EU thing, but it really is very fucking rare that I join a game, and the host accepts another player that is obviously completely fucking retarded just based on their build.Yes, I am autistic enough to check everyone else's build via inspect from social, including late-joins, before I bother accepting the run. I'd rather leave than waste my time with a complete fucking moron.This is of course, again, purely anecdotal, and also based on assumption, so my claims are unfortunately unreliable. I wish I had tangibly objective data, but I unfortunately don't and probably never will.
>>552311078I kind of want the dice trinket because I find it funny as someone with a 40k army and have had many moments of good and bad rolls winning or losing games.>>552326783Probably the second or third most known IG regiment after Cadians and maybe Catachans. But honestly, it probably has the largest sales out of any of the cosmetics from what I've seen in game and so they keep pushing it out for that sweet sweet fomo cash.
>>552437849Yeah I've mostly stopped playing as of like a week ago. As much as I like havocs, the party finder is awfully implemented, and having to filter at all is just tedious. The average build/player is just bad. And yes even at high ranks too.>non-orange gear>non-t4 perks/blessingsFuck off already. Lazy homos.
>>552433641You play Vet first because it's the most boring, bog standard class in the game. Everything about it is conventional, conventional shooting, conventional hitting, straightforward weapons, the talent tree is uncomplicated and easy to figure out, the class abilities are likewise easy to figure out. In comparison, all the other classes have one area in which they do well and mostly suck at all others, Vet's the only generalist class, and is most players first pick.
>>552438167>I really wish they'd put a difficulty in above Auric that kept damage and health values the same but upped enemy count and boss count tremendously (yes, I know that's what Auric is already supposed to be, but it's not eonugh)I want a novel difficulty concept that addresses some of the pain points in the game for me. I would love a "heat mode" difficulty that has modifiers like>greatly reduced effectiveness of dots because I think the dot meta is lame >greatly reduced effectiveness of "permastagger" things like smite and shock mine because actually fighting the enemies is more fun to me>friendly fire because I dislike how a lot of encounters just boil down into "magdump and dont give a fuck whats in the way">reduced cleave on guns because I dont like how you can basically entirely avoid melee with them and kill whole horde waves with 2 shots of a shotgun>less sprint speed because I don't enjoy how easy it makes kiting enemiesI know these are divisive btw. It's just things I dont personally like, not saying anyone has to agree, just that it would be cool if there was a heat select like in hades where you can custom tailor the difficulty with stuff like this, so you can select which you think are fun
>>552438167>Doing the high intensity variants of the last event were absolute peak Darktide, and it's a shame they're gone.I have strongly mixed feelings about the previous event. On the one hand, at the top end, it was definitely the best that auric has ever been. On the other hand, on average, it was by far the worst experience I've ever had in auric, because most games were filled with 2-3 absolute tourists that neither had any business being in auric, nor any business playing a boss spam event with builds that weren't in the slightest prepared for ANY of the possible spawns. And with the majority of games being worthless shitters requiring me to solo clutch carry the entire run effectively singleplayer, I'd much rather play with bots that at least keep up, as sad as that is.>avoiding them means way more time spent in the tedium of PF instead of playing the actual game.Different strokes, I guess. I like playing havoc and grinding my own assignment to 40, and hosting is part of the reason I do it. Because I most frequently host, I not only get authority over who gets accepted or DECLINED, I can also confidently say that filling a party doesn't usually take very long. At least when hosting a 40 anyway. I really only have to wait annoyingly long when hosting at witching hour, because at times I only get to play late at night. But I can't blame the game or the gamemode for that, it's purely a time zone issue. I often just switch servers if/when the wait annoys me, and get a full lobby within ~10 minutes tops anyway. Playing on 200+ latency can be annoying sometimes, but it's manageable depending on your class choice (psyker has it best, but I don't play that).
>>552438946Never gonna happen because it just splits the playerbase and then you'll complain the game is dead because nobody wants to play with X or Y turned off.
>>552439197>and then you'll complain the game is deadhalf my time playing this game is spent with friends, I dont mind. Havoc and Mortis are already retarded gamemodes that split the playerbase and have a painfully small target audience, a third won't hurt
>>552438961>it was by far the worst experience I've ever had in auric, because most games were filled with 2-3 absolute tourists that neither had any business being in auric, nor any business playing a boss spam event with builds that weren't in the slightest prepared for ANY of the possible spawnskek, that's part of what made it fun. One of the matches I played, we had one guy leave, and I guess the mission had rotated out because he never got replaced. And one other guy was on the floor CONSTANTLY. By the victory screen, I looked at that guy's damage, and he'd managed <400k. It was a fucking slog of a mission. Took like 35-40 minutes IIRC, but god damn was it intense. But playing Shiv melee Scum made it really quite smooth, even when I had to solo clutch 'cause my other guy got downed in a room overflowing with armor. It's something I'd want to play as specific classes/builds though. I don't think I'd want to play it as Vet because of how much harder it is to hold up under extreme pressure on most Vet builds.
>>552439326>I've been shot, a second bullet won't hurt
>>552439769I just really viscerally dislike having to singleplayer solo hard gigacarry 3 completely useless retarded toddlers that don't even have the courtesy to stay at the fucking computer when they get revived, assuming they don't ragequit the picosecond they go down (even when I'm right next to them reviving them with max revive speed). And no, it's not a skill issue, of course I can solo some gay event after going through several trials by fire that are the retarded bullshit havoc will throw at you, but man. I play co-op games for the co-op, for the love of CHRIST please cooperate, I beg of you.
>>552439926you're acting like havoc and mortis trials actually affected quickplay, I notice absolutely no difference
>fuck around on aurics with a grenade glove melee build >the blessings I'm triyng out don't actuall work with the punches so it's utter dogshit so I'm bottom fragging but it's fun so w/e>end of mission a guy goes "h40 and lowest damage lmao"I'm not even showing a title or cosmetic that would announce this to anyone, so did this guy just install a mod that lets him see what peoples havoc rank is to then seethe over it?
>>552440569>did this guy just install a mod Yes. Truelevel.Insecure hardstucklet shitters tend to channel their confirmation bias to the absolute maximum whenever they see a havoc 40. You see tons of them in this general.
>>552438946>>greatly reduced effectiveness of dots because I think the dot meta is lameThanks for nerfing ogryn again and making his melee nigh useless.>>greatly reduced effectiveness of "permastagger" things like smite and shock mine because actually fighting the enemies is more fun to meThis is fair.>>friendly fire because I dislike how a lot of encounters just boil down into "magdump and dont give a fuck whats in the way"Genuinely a dogshit idea that should never be added, it would make the difficulty unplayable with pubs.>>reduced cleave on guns because I dont like how you can basically entirely avoid melee with them and kill whole horde waves with 2 shots of a shotgunThank you for making 90% of the guns in the game even more useless.>>less sprint speed because I don't enjoy how easy it makes kiting enemiesThanks for nerfing ogryn again.
>>552436758Lame. Give us votann
>>552440167Sometimes it does frustrate me when it's 3 useless sandbags, but in that game, the guy who kept going down was at least trying, and the other guy was decent enough. It's definitely annoying when your team really is just 3 turboretards who belong in Heresy or lower, but I don't find those to be the norm. Usually at least one other person breaths through their nose.
>>552440731>hardstuckletSo, those who aren't stuck?
>>552440903Careful he's gonna go have yet another melty
>>552440903Kek
>>552435859>>552435547>>552435006bodies that freak
>>552440891>3 turboretards who belong in Heresy or lower, but I don't find those to be the normI genuinely fucking envy you, because this tends to be my experience in most aurics somehow, but it's ESPECIALLY bad during events.
>>552435547>no place to startThere are 4 classes. You're being incredibly rude to someone thinking 4 choices for classes is somehow worth mentioning.
>>552440735It's just examples of things i would enjoy, within the system I proposed you wouldn't have to turn any of them on and there would be more modifiers you might enjoy morepic related, hades has this. If you dont like one you can just not touch it
>>552441098I legitimately mean turboretards, not just "mildly incompetents". 3 teams of semi-shitters aren't uncommon for me, yeah.
>>552441224This is probably what havoc should've been
>No More Room in Hell 2 still at mixed reviews with people saying it remains underbakedAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>552441265Maybe we have different standards. Teams that in any way interact with the objective are a breath of fresh air to me, because nobody ever fucking does, and I have to legitimately, unironically, fully solo literally every single step of every single objective, unless I want to wait SEVERAL MINUTES before these actual sub-humans either stop maximally struggling to stay alive against 3 poxers, or get distracted autistically farming a spawn door for minutes on end.Rolling Steel? Fucking forget about it. Fan batteries? LOL they'll sooner get lost. Dreyko hacking puzzle? I can spend a minute block pushing enemies away from the retard attempting it, they'll get frustrated and quit.
So which game has better performance between Vermintide 2 and Darktide? Asking for a friend.
>>552441581The older game. You didn't think before posting, did ya.
>>552327771He looks like that and says that>>552316498No, straight robot
>>552441557Yeah I was mostly just thinking about their ability to endure harsher moments of combat. Objectives are pretty whatever to me at this point after having to solo them all so many times. It's rare for the average dipshit's inability to complete an objective bothers me, but I won't deny that it's a very common occurrence.
>>552412321It’s dogshit sadly. All style no substance.>>552415127Who is the man in this image?
What's your favorite tard player? Mine is shield ogryn on open mic trying to lead the party and just sitting their with the shield out doing nothing
>>552442245>doing nothingRetards who can't appreciate the tank drawing aggro shouldn't be allowed to post here.
>>552442003>their ability to endure harsher moments of combat.It feels far too close to the tabletop equivalent a lot of the time, where it's a completely fucking random dice roll that will just fuck you over at the most inopportune times.>3 retards hugging each other like actual butt buddies>all of them have some aoe ability and synergistic auras as well as a good lineup>decide to go solo to do the objective after a minute of these niggers uselessly bumbling around>SOMEHOW THEY ALL WIPE THE INSTANT I STOP KILLING EVERYTHING>"why anon leave us!! anon noob!!"I wish I could personally curbstomp these fucking shitters. Not filter them out of my game, genuinely fucking remove them from the gene pool.
>>552442456He never pressed his taunt ability.
>>552424769jej>>552425580that’s all chaos factions though
>>552389735It fucks me up that all purple keystones are borderline useless or memes and almost never get picked on most builds.
>>552442576Nvm then, hate away and allow me to join.
>>552442476Damn, I don't think I've ever had an instance where the other 3 people went down and someone blamed me for it. It'd definitely piss me off though.
>>552431726Raccoons are gay why couldn’t red pandas replace them man
>>552442765holy fuck lmao
>>552442593What are you talking about? Two of the three keystones are really good. Or are you talking about the two dog buffs and Lone Wolf? Lone Wolf is at least good.
>>552441224Having this many option sliders would just fragment the playerbase even harder.Because as soon as every person does their own autistically specific difficulty that they want to play, practically nobody will be joining each others games because they have different options turned on and off.
>>552442907The two dog keystones and lone wolf.Lone wolf is kind of ok but removes all the flavor of the class you might as well run vet with shotgun at that point.
>>552442765Hero dog gives their life to save woman.
>>552442672Nah, that's everything that happened. It was on the inter-zone map so bonus idiocy with him dropping shield and saying he had the mobs during the power area and bitching that he kept going down from being flanked. I don't have the scoreboard to show anything, but I'm pretty sure his damage was near zero. Party unanimously kicked him though which was hilarious
>>552442941Dunno man deeds were a very similar principle and people just had fun running random deeds and didn't worry about it. Maybe if the entire game wasn't based on quickplay bullshit you could introduce fun shit to do that wouldn't work with quickplay. Fatshark really messed up there
>>552443479Quickplay is the good part of Darktide, evidenced by havoc since the most common annoyance people have with it is the party finder and how fucking boring, laborious and dogshit it is to use.
>>552442765I would have left then and there and probably not touch this game for several months. What the FUCK
>win 2 havocs in a row, same guys each time>cool, we're all in for a third>right when we're about to go again, one of us has to suddenly leave, they apologise, ggs etc>this guy joins, constantly talks weird shit to the host, then mentions dude weedBullet: dodged. Don't even need to inspect his build.
>>552442765kek RIP>>552443021Yeah I do wish the two dog keystones were better>you might as well run vet with shotgun at that point.Nah, it still feels pretty different from Vet with shotgun to me, mostly because you can be way more aggressive and bring way more CC to the table. t. plays with LW often
>>552429869The correct dump stat is defence. You are a retard if you're blocking crusher overheads, that's an objective truth.
>>552442765>misplay>get punishedBased.
Redpill me on the ogryns ripper guns. Complete dogshit? Or serviceable in some cases? The can opener trait seems useful for the bayonet on the ripper gun.
>>552441557>damnation train>retards merrily swinging at hordes while ignoring the minigame>can't be fucked to swing merrily at hordes near me so I keep getting knocked out of it>won't get batteries, merrily swing at hordes near the spinning thing>dont kill specials, die to snipers and flamers/bombers deleting their little safe areahow did they fail upwards this far
>>552444419They aren't completely useless but they're bad
>>552444419Non-havocs they're okay, just shooting them sometimes. Don't go spamming it, as overall they're mediocre and not worth much ammo investment. I wouldn't bring it into auric maelstrom or any havoc worth a remote damn.
Does brittleness do anything to unarmored targets? Like beast of nurgle etc? or plague ogryn?
>>552445048Armor damage modifier has nothing to do with armor type. Plague ogryn still has damage reductions on certain limbs, that brittleness pushes closer to a 1.0 damage modifier.Technically, brittleness also causes damage gains beyond 1.0 but it's mostly negligible and not worth focusing on.
>>552445048Usually not, but some weapons benefit from it, such as the ripper guns
>>552443908Party finder isn't the only alternative to quickplay. In VT2 you'd quickplay once, then you'd get thrown into the same lobby together. If you liked the team you would often start slotting in deeds for fun. There was no "fragmentation of the playerbase" from this because the game design didn't say >fuck you you HAVE to quickplay every mission individuallyit just had matchmaking and what you did with the lobby afterwards was up to youThe far better system I might add
>>552442672>>552443126Forgot to add when using shield and maul, that H1, push, is insanely strong and great CC and that fucker just would drop shield and scream into his mic
>>552442456Retarded angle my man. When I play shield ogryn I taunt then I smash out H1 H1 H1 H1 to help kill everything I taunted. Why would putting my shield down to turn it into a 3 man mission for that amount of time I'm turtled up help the team more?
At what point do certain builds become way less effective on higher difficulties? For example, I like ogryn and I like both the heavy hitter setup and the gun lugger lucky shot setup etc. However, I am noticing that the higher up in difficulties I go, the gun lugger ogryn with twin linked heavy stubber doesn't seem as effective compared to the heavy hitter with taunt setup. When on the gun lugger setup, I almost don't want to shoot my gun that often because I am not sure what the ammo economy is going to be like. If no veteran on the team, it feels even worse if I shoot too much and run low on ammo.
>>552446440Generally no point, just degree. But if it were a 'point' then it'd just be modifiers (e.g. havoc ones), but other than those, just matter of degree. At least you've recognised this, though, good job. Certain top-tier weapons I find are relatively nowhere near as good in lower-tier difficulties too, and where some shit-tier weapons are actually great relatively in lower-tier difficulties. Like PFalchion feels great in shitter levels, much better to use than shit like PSword.
>>552445048>>552445351>>552445372Haven't played my psyker in a while used to be brittleness on flame staff was good to help out, switch that out now for something else?
>>552447383Armored enemies are resistant to soulfire damage so it helps
crusher arbites is fun
>>552447383>switch that outnoshitters will tell you to do it, but no
>>552447595yes
>>552447595For what purpose? Arbitrator has insane stagger as it is.
>>552447863LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS
>>552447943>post asks what it's good for>tranny freaks outdamn man clean out your hole or something, let the people talk normally without your stench
Crusher arbites would be the best class in the game if the crusher had good carapace damageLet that sink in
>the not-firekeeper takes her cloak off>suddenly she starts talking like dukanewhat the sigma
>>552448092It does have good carapace damage on the Arbites.
>>552448092>if the weapon that can stagger literally fucking anything and also mark it for 80% bonus damage from all sources actually did damage itself, it'd be good>but it doesn't, so it isn'tyou don't fucking say
>>552448092And that's why it does not have good carapce damage? As much as I dislike Fatshark's work ethic, the few people doing actual work to balance the game are doing a good job for the most part.
>>552448084Now you've made me angry...*grabs your head with my muscular yet supple and feminine hands**forces your head down and swallows it in my rancid front-hole*I needed a new dilator anyway!
>>552448235Only if you hit the enemy with a flurry of perfect push attacks to the head, which rarely works out due to enemy density and the angle of attack
>>552447863Skullcrusher. Aoe skullcrusher even.
>>552448668Use energized Heavy Attacks. It can three tap a Crusher with the standard damage buffs up. its kill time is competitive with the arbites shock maul.
>>552448136>talking like dukaneDukane talks like Pari Kim, the adorable train-obsessed girl from Love On The Spectrum
if it takes you more than 3 (three) seconds to get back to ANY of your teammates, you are a bad player
>see darktide thread on /v/ >people discussing how bad hive scum is and how you supposedly get more dodge frames by maxing out mobilitySay what you want about the heated autistic arguments here but the average copeger ITT knows way more than random retards
>>552448092>if
>>552449027>extremely low bart-thanks...
>>552448901With what blessings?
>>552449027/v/ playing games lol.I'll admit I'm not great at playing Ganger, but I'm enjoying it as is although it seems to suffer against more armored enemies. I'm sure some anons know a solution that I haven't looked into yet.
>>552449027Not "dodge frames," "I-frames." You know, frames in which I am invincible. Like darksoles.
>>552449423Skullcrusher and Thunderous for maximum team support with the aoe application
>>552449070All this just to do less damage than every other mace weapon that is available to the arbites
>>552449464ogryn gets not i-frames, he stronk and can take it sah
>>552449639>ogryn unironically has a smaller dodge window and does not get the grace period after dodging>but he dodges the furthest
>>552449718I love playing ogryn no matter what, but it does take me over the edge occasionally because I forget how slidy he is
>>552449464semantics difference (arguably dodge frames fits darktide better because they dont make you immune to getting hit from all things and influence tracking) and mobility stat grants no increase to either of these concepts
>>552449925The fact that you can still be hit during dodges proves they are not i-frames. Please be pedantic in this case because you will confuse new players into believing they truly are invincible when they are dodging and not just interrupting the enemy's tracking.
Uh oh here we go again.
damn i-dodges are on fleek fr fr uncs
I failed the first darktide mission
>>552450192>hegelian dialectics ongoing? I better be a whiny bitch and complain that people are discussing things on my discussion forum again
>>552450572The first darktide mission is to not play darktide because it fucking sucksYou failed before you even tried
>>552450652why did you post that in the darktide general
>>552450630Who are you quoting?
>>552450572How? Can crushers even spawn in Sedition?
>>552449595Here are some tests with the most common damage numbers presented
>>552437849You wouldn't have this problem if you had friends to play with.
>>552450785>/coopg/ - cooperative games general
>>552451037friends betray you eventually, no one ever truly has anyone but himself
>>552450965Is that some $ skin for crusher? Looks like a shock maul.
>>552450820my team all died instantly and i had to fight an endless horde and a boss with a shitty axe
>>552451253understandable, welcome to darktide
>>552451037I did have friends to play with but they're less autistic than me and got bored of havoc a long time ago
>>552451192I promise you it's a crusherThis is a shock maul
>>552451476Btw it's Mk Ia with heavy, light, light combo
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JmWWKyDOYVYWtf is her problem?
Is darktide playable without a mic? Will people COOOOOOOOP with me?
>Female arbites and male hiv coomer>Female arbites: SHOW THEM NO MERCY!>Male coomer: I NEVER SHOW MERCY AHAHAHAHA I'M LITERALLY THE JOKER FROM BATMAN>Female arbites: SO YOU WILL FOLLOW MY ORDERS THEN?>Male coomer: (visible confusion) T-T-THAT'S NOT FAIR!Can love bloom in the underhive?
>Brawler ogryn wants to eat trappers and other human traitors>admits that he's eaten some of them beforeis this just normal for ogryns in 40k? why does nobody point this shit out
>>552452231how are you supposed to insult people then?
>>552452231People very rarely use mics except to scream the N word
>>552452231You don't need voip and very little communication happens anyways.t. h40 never using a mic and have in-game voip disabled (never hear others)Sometimes some greetings or confirmation in lobby/pre-mission, then gg/nt at the end.
>>552452231The average player does not actually use voice that much. The most I've heard on mic was a quirky chungus couple sperging over how strong Arbites is.
>>552452382That's because the default audio mixing sucks, voice chat is way too fucking quiet by default and 99% of players will give up and just not chat instead of fiddling with settings.
>>552452573BASED
>>552452421>then gg/nt at the end.I will never throw the gg first but will always gg someone who ggs, even if it was a bg.I have NEVER sent out a nt
>>552452573What did you say? I can't hear you man turn your volume up
>>552452619you sound like a bitch
>>552452619>never gg firstIt's the best, shows you're the boss (as is always the case for me), especially as everybody then follows suit and ggs after you establish that's how it is.>never ntToo stuck-up, anon. Real recognises real.
You can't spell "nigger" without "gg"
>>552450965And in practical clear time its about 1 second difference, which isn't a bad tradeoff given crusher is also applying the debuffs to everything around you too.
>>552452798I don't think I've ever seen an nt, never not once.
>unlock assail >go from being useless to topping damagebrain burst sucks
>>552453073brain burst was made for almost an entirely different game at this point and needs to be fully specced to do any good
>>552453073It's very strong in lower difficulties but falls off at higher difficulties, although it can still be made to wipe out gunner packs
>>552448954She is kinda cute>>552452309Ogryns frequently eat anything they can eat their hands on cannibalism is pseudo-widespread in the imperium
>>552448330>>552448336You guys are aware that the shock maul is a thing yeah? Literally crusher except you don't move slow and instead of almost no armour damage you practically ignore it.
>>552453232i preferred darktide's general balance (and literally nothing else, don't @ me with a retard take) before the talent reworkelites being an actual obstacle worth of calling in the redactus member of the squad instead of just pure 24/7 zoomer chaos 6 boss difficulty was kino
>>552452231As long as you communicate things with pings you're fine. Ping ammo or stims you won't use for others to grab, ping enemies like daemonhosts so everyone can avoid pissing it off, ping locations of objectives like if you need to carry a battery, etc. Often typing something will get you killed. I honestly think the director notices when you're typing and spawns a trapper behind you wassdawwwsdadsadwdsd.
>>552453423More killin'More goodSimple ass
>>552453373shock maul is annoying because you have to constantly heavy 1 for max dpscrusher might be too idk i never used it but i wouldn't use the cock forall either>>552453540yeah dude wanna run vampire survivors later xD
Hey guys wanna hear a joke?Stealth veteran
>>552453308The force slash special on the greatsword can proc the brainburst from kinetic flayer, and the slash goes through some terrain like boxes, containers, and chainlink fences but not solid walls. Its satisfying to send an unbuffed slash a distance away through a wall and get the proc to oneshot a trapper or dog before you can see it.
>>552453723>I will eventually have to play this joke just for penances
>>552453595>shock maul is annoying because you have to constantly heavy 1 for max dpsNo, it's heavy, light, light with the Mk Ia for the highest stagger and DPS
Should I piggy up and buy 3x blue krieg skins or wait and buy 2x black skins and have some leftover for weapon skins?I don't play psyker so 3x skins fits perfectly with my classes but I dunno
>>552453540I really want a game like Darktide but with Death Hulk pacing. Hordes are fun and all, but I want time to appreciate the atmosphere while still being challenged. Resource management challenges like other survival horror games could probably make up for the loss in twitch reflex difficulty if tuned right. Something tells me GW autism + the GTFO devs could result in something good, GTFO felt like a solid core in need of a soul and a solid "no" guy.
>>552454050Of course you shouldABCAlwaysBeConsuming
>>552453595I don't know, man, with the munitorum mark I can just spam heavy chains for strikedowns and push attack light heavy alternating for cleave, and it literally just werks
>>552449628Well I'm not arguing that it needs a buff. But it's usable and packs of armor suddenly disappear after I apply skullcrusher to them with a special
>>552454095Any 40K game that focuses on something other than Space Marines is welcome at this point. Most wasted potential of any popular IP because its managed to the gills by financebros afraid of bad press upsetting quarterly results.>>552453853brevity, tranner
>>552454276I'm a good piggy that is always consuming but it just perplexes me black color on the exact same skin costs 500 more aquilas.I only have 7400 so it's either 3x blue or 2x black and some weapon skins.
>>552453423the game becomes more and more like cookie clicker with every patch
>>552454415>brevity, trannerDo you disagree or are you just being a faggot?
>>552454050>what should I do with my moneysince you asked, you should spend it elsehwere
>>552454463>it just perplexes me black color on the exact same skin costs 500 more aquilas.Supply and demand, young oinkerSupply and demand
>>552454463>blackMuh 40K Death Corps>blueMuh Frenchies
>>552448901>Use energized Heavy AttacksHell no. Only use light energized attacks.Energized attacks are explosions and the original melee hit is removed. This means you can't deal weakspot damage with them. Heavy energized attacks are 30% stronger than light but they are also much slower. You only really need to use activated attacks for dense packs, and you want to stack skullcrusher as fast as possible so light attacks are better.I use skullcrusher and opportunist, because it really needs that rending even for flak. Many people bring brittleness anyway, and 2.5% is the most common source of it so it won't stack.
>>552453723I have never touched Infiltrate and I don't think I ever will.
>>552455245It was useless since launch. That shit and smoke nades are the biggest joke in the game.
>>552455037>you can't deal weakspot damage with themAlready wrong
>>552455245>1200/2000 engulfed enemies with smokeIt's painful. Paaiinful. And the only thing I've taken away from this is smoke turns of gunners. Wooooow. So cooool. You know what else turns off gunners? MY FUCKING GUN
>>552455442It's the same problem Helldivers 2 runs into with all the support shit they keep pumping out like stun rounds and smoke.Why would you run distruption when you could just, you know, pick a good weapon and FUCKING KILL IT????
>>552455442Just throw smoke grenades into spawn doors
>>552455367>smoke nade>biggest jokeSadly can't fully disagree due to the fact that rotten armour sometimes exists.
>>552455367>tfw played stealth veteran on game launch>people genuinely mad that I'm just standing still on a box killing everything that matters with exec stance while the horde ignores menot my problem
>>552455591I HAVE BEEN
Nice
>>552455037The energized heavy attack has a bigger explosion with more stagger, making it better for control and spreading the effects wider while you beatdown a priority target.
>>552455676Good girl
>>552455802Good job for checking, I feel like I'm the only person who bothers with top % rolls on curios. Most you see in havoc lobbies are using sub-17%s for example. Lazy!
>>552455959Seriously, the takeaway I'm taking-away from this Penance is smoke just turns off enemies.>pack of gunners? turn em off>spawn door? turn it off>reaper? OFF>melee not going so hot? turn it OFF and ON againIt seems strong, but in reality it's just stalling.
>>552456193It isn't stalling. It's to ensure you can get shit done. Smoke yourself and/or enemies. It's something you will need to see (!) for yourself, there's no surprise it's the most-used vet nade by far when it isn't rotten armour shit.
>>552456193You're allowed to kill them while they're stalled btw. Smoke doesn't turn off players too
>>552455802wtf is the point of that mod? >toughness is blue to signify it's a defensive stat>damage is highlighted red because it's offensive>but the actual word is "damage resistance", a defensive statwhat is this retard shit lol
>>552456807Color Coordinating so they don't actually have to read.>if I match up all the red talents I'm super strong!
>>552456927Btw i'm trans
>check true survivor's psyker build>he's using empyric resolveweird how people who actually win havocs agree with me and this thread never does huh
damn he has penetrating flame on his staff too, how could this be
>>552456927yeah I mean I would understand that a little bit but then the mod literally conflcits with itself by highlighting "damage resistance" as just "damage" which rapes your glanceabilityeven with how stupid the concept is, the mod still fucks it up and becomes counterproductive to its purpose
>>552457195>>552457323btw she was also trans
>>552457195>true survivor psyker uses talent that makes him generate less peril I believe you buddy, because when I was trying for true survivor 99% of my attempts were ruined by a psyker blowing himself up for no reason. I am not sure I would take that as a sign he's skillful though.
>>552457195Empyric Resolve isn't necessary if you're running Inferno. I could see myself using it if I'm running Trauma or (Allah forgive me) Voidstrike. Even then, Inner Tranquility gives up to -48% peril generation with no downside.
>>552457195What a weird post. It's like you're an illogical newfag (to DT). In H40 lobbies you will nigh-always see one mistake in a build. Like the wrong perk, or wrong blessing, or a dumb talent choice, but that's it, as their character is ~95% complete, and that's enough to reliably beat H40. You're retarded if you obsess over 100%.
>>552457747>Inner TranquilitySorry I meant Inner Transquility.
>>552454415Pretty sure the boomoids up top just care for the profits of the table top and that’s why they >>552454095Agreed GTFO seem like they could get something nice done probably lack the passion for it though
>>552457806That's correct. His mistake is taking wildfire though.
I'm going to take wildfire and the BB node (as the game intended)
>>552458273Took it when I was trying to get the penance for maintaining max warp charges for 2 minutes, that and the node for soulfire kills to give warp charges.
>>552459141As you should, it's significantly better than the other one. Take pic', not the other one. Most people get this wrong as they don't know the pic' one is when any enemy dies under soulblaze i.e. even if a teammate kills them while under soulblaze.
How do the Arbitres and Hive Scum actually play?Like what role(s) do they fill comparatively?
>>552459416>is when any enemy dies under soulblaze i.e. even if a teammate kills them while under soulblaze.the other one seemed better because 90% of any enemies are on screen, teammates will instantly blast them with ranged weapons killing over two thirds of them before you can put soulblaze on. Uptime mod also confirmed this to me
>>552459559Arbites>never die>able to kill everything without any trouble at a medium paceScum>never die or always die, no inbetween>kills everything without carapace quickly>pray your team deals with carapace quickly>if they don't, it will gatekeep the fuck out of you killing everything else quickly and/or devour precious time of a rending stim or despacito+rending node just to kill 1 or 2 crushers over 10 seconds
>>552459559Arbites generates infinite toughness just for existing and staggers everything, but has generally not-great mobility.Scum has giga mobility and evasion and does a gorillion damage to non-carapace but if you fuck up your evasion you die instantly.
>>552460070>>kills everything without carapace quickly>>pray your team deals with carapace quickly>>if they don't, it will gatekeep the fuck out of you killing everything else quickly and/or devour precious time of a rending stim or despacito+rending node just to kill 1 or 2 crushers over 10 secondsI know the ranged build makes you forget you have a melee weapon, but whipping out the shivs is pretty workable
>>552459559Arbites is robocop with a dogHive scum is fast and agile and gets his damage from firing a billion bullets a second, swinging his weapon a billion times a second and by using his rocket launcher and crazy powerful toxin sources
>>552459559Same role as anyone else, dodge everything and kill everything, prioritising whatever is the most dangerous or whatever your build kills fastest.
What's the point of penetrating flame on inferno staff? It doesn't improve ttk on anything besides crushers and your tradeoff is that you constantly eat shit from ranged mobs because your crit chance is gone, and saying it improves ttk on crushers is being generous because in practice they still never die before the melee with rending or krak hits them anyway, or you just get your rending to 100% outright with uncanny stacks.
Fatsharks Guidebook on Game BalanceChapter 1, how to give a class a meta build>Step 1: make it stack dots on shit somehow >Step 2: there is no step 2
>>552460229Melee in my despacito? I'm going to get 3 kills max on poxwalkers that minorly annoyed me while I was reloading and that's it.There's also rocket launcha but I don't consider it worthwhile to use something that powerful on anything but a gigahorde (pretty common) unless it's an emergency.
>>552460543>make it stack dots on shit somehowDog bleed meta confirmed
>>552460680>apply 8 stacks of skoollcroosher>the dots on the enemy now hit almost twice as hardIn a roundabout way you can think of this as a dot build
>>552460680It was before they made it stack too few at oncealso the average arbites dog bleed does more damage than my melee ogryn bleed still, even now
Is it just me or are shivs just the best melee weapon in the game? Like is there anything they don't do? They're basically a dueling sword with good hordeclear and a really strong special attack
>>552336360>>552311095no one cares
>>552462268I prefer combat knoife, but the free poison knives have their value.
>>5524619021. That's beause bleed was nerfed universally as a mechanic, and then ogryn was also hit with it's talent nerf.2. Dog bleed has double base damage before any modifiers and that never changed. You need to extend it with other sources of bleed to maximize stacks though, otherwise it sucks3. You can't really track bleed damage score reliably because all damage is attributed to player/companion who initiated the bleed first. Dog can bite once and then you will buff that dot to 16 stacks and extend it, all the damage will still be attributed to the dog. This also means that other players can benefit from dog's double base damage on bleed, though all the score will be attributed to the dog.And it works backwards to, if ogryn started a bleed it will be a shitty low damage bleed, even if dog extends it.
Explain why the blaze greatsword doesn't get warp nexus right now
new thread when so I can ask if anyone wants to play havoc?
>leveling a new character>forced uprising>lvl 537 zealot rushing to the end>made all the other lvl 1 alt f4 >he fucking gets netted>I move on after teabaggin him a little for the lol>yells racial slurs with the most offensive Fr*nch accent in voice chatMade my day
>>552454781man if you are reduced to this blatant of an attempt to start some kind of izzat dispute you really need to find another hobby
>>552462268they come attached to wet paper in a game with shitty dedicated servers and skating weapon tracking you have to read in 360 degrees to time your dodges during peak intensity instead of iframes
>>552459559>rolesThere aren't really roles outside of high havoc and even there it's more of like a "where you should be focused all other crises managed" or "how to time your class ability given the following conditions" than a proper distinctive roleeverybody mashes down the elites and snipes the specialists and in every other game mode you just light everything up with infinite ammo
>>552453723>>552453830>>552455245>>552455367Infiltrate is fun
>>552465601>>552465601>>552465601>>552465601new bread
>>552454603i guess the game's flaws are hidden behind the constant stimuli but man it absolutely kills all the love put into the warhammer-specific designs because you just skiitarius a click pattern and watch or do the same thing manually and develop carpal tunnel in your 50sseems like luck in retrospect how good of a balance VT2 struck between horde engagement and downtime/elite & patrol management
>>552412536It went somewhere alright…
>>552448415Lol
>>552448092All I'm saying ismelee weak spot damagemelee critical hit damageOpportunistTrumaDon't question it, just trust it!
