Phalanx EditionUpdate 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0>December Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/328-december-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>551939383
Fists suck and they eat shit
>Greetings, we will be your Battle-Brothers for this operation. How do you respond?
>>552563076introduce them to legos
>>552562980>Fists suckHe saved Terra is what he did. He was a brave Primarch with a brave Legion. And in this house, Rogal Dorn is a hero! End of story.
>>552564223They jobbed to the Orks and lost to the based Iron WarriorsFists suck and they eat shit
>>552564223Imperial Fists haven't existed since the War of the Beast
>>552564361>lost to the Iron LosersThe Iron Cage was an Imperial Fists victory, the Iron Losers and Chudturabo retreated with their tails between their legs They baited the Fists into a trap and STILL couldn’t finish them off
>>552563076Lamenters are the better yellow spehs mareens
So if the Imperium is 24/7 working until you die in some factory, how exactly are they maintaining numbers
>>552565238It’s not, that’s just “shit I learned on day 1 from a YouTuber” info repeated by newfags and leftists Your quality of life in the Imperium varies wildly depending on when and where you’re born Even if you’re born as a lowly serf somewhere in Ultramar, you can honestly expect a better life than most people have on Earth today Wake up early, tend your fields, go to space-church, get married, fuck your wife, have kids, did
>weekly hard strat with randos>get to the final area with 4 heals, feelin confident>3 termies and a helbrute spawn, kinda expected>barely scrape by, end up being the last one on the team>start pushing the wagon>another helbrute spawnsare you fucking kidding me
>>552566070Just post codes if you haven't beat it
>>552565238Normal humans have sex all the timeFactories and Mechanicum worlds use servitors for daily wagie tasks
>>552566070Today there's a large amount of retards, had to blow all my 10 stims when I was left alive alone to fight the first hellbrute in the corridor, of course coupled with all extremis and majoris spawns.
>>552565238Servitors are used for the most menial tasks, and the Mechanicus is entirely built upon those "Why the fuck aren't you turning those corpses of guardsmen into food rations you absolute buffoon" efficiency focused autists leading to them understanding that forcing the average unaugmented human would be unable to function properly with a work schedule that makes 996 look humanitarian
>>552566070Yeah the cart pushing section has two possible Helbrute spawns; one as you enter the arena, and one when you step on the platform with the buttons that rotate the tracks. If you haven't had a Helbrute spawn up to that point, then you're likely to have two back-to-back there.
2026 year of block xenophase and banner customization
>>552572443Block Heroic Chainsword would probably be straight up busted. Being able to fit punch-shoulder bash-stomp into a single Adrenaline Surge window would be nutty.
Just checked, and yes, lightning claws still are inherently feminine even in 2026
>>552575090Based, Raven Guard are the most feminine legion by far >hides in le shadows listening to Evanescence (female singer) >too scared to fight in the open against more confident, chad-coded Legions>fragile pale skin and physique afraid of the light >boring black and white color scheme afraid to take risks and use bright colors >long-hair wearers (feminine) >chief lighting claw users amongst the Astartes (a confirmed feminine weapon by the post above me)
>somebody fucks up the letters on Reclamation or Ballistic Enginei have to leave instantly every time. under no circumstances is ''guy who can't fucking read'' a good teammate that I need to be helping.
>>552567036>The rate of diminishing returns on menial labour is abhorrent. More of the crew should be turned into servitors.>Yes, I agree, but the Space Marines prefer the company of their serfs. Servitors cannot appreciate honourable service, or some such nonsense.>You are to be reassigned to sanitation duties.>That is the work of a servitor!>The servitors' augmentations are put to better use in other duties.>I-if you restore my sight...>Your petition for augmetic replacement has been denied.>I still have use without my eyes.>Correct. They will not be required for your new duties. Septic dives must be conducted blind.>There must be something, anything else I can do...>Are you volunteering for servitor conversion, menial?>I... no, I will report to the sanitation master.>Servitor, your efficiency levels are below optimal, explain.>Damage.>Define the damage.>Spine compromised.>Have you not received pain suppressants?>Suppressants administered. Damage severe.>*Sigh..* Report to the surgical bay. If we cannot replace the disks you will be put to some other use.>Compliance.You gotta remember it's not as simple as "not a servitor? chill, man". Normal humans can have a hellish life at work, and you need to remember servitors are also kinda human. Just because you were lobotomized doesn't mean you died and stopped feeling. It's way more varied than just basing it on your place and time of birth.
>>552576678How about symbols on Reliquary? You don't even need to know how to read, but it still happens.
>>552577050Its important to remember that a large number of servitor laborers are clones/vat grown things, its not all punished criminals and penitents.
>>552576678but greek letters are haaaaaaard
>>552577684There's only 3 greek ones, lambda, omega and sigma. The rest are latin ones
>>552565804Ultramar has a life expectancy in the 40s
>>552577549Even the clones and vat growths have all the machine parts installed and brain functions reprogrammed after their birth/activation/whatever.
>>552578120Yeah but in the famous words of Chairman Cheng-ji Yang >how can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel painWhen you're born a genetically altered haemonculus with an atrophied cerebral cortex you were never going to have any other option in life in the first place. Born to be a slave means your brain growth was retarded before you ever woke up because why waste the materials
>>552578096Ah, just like in the middle ages. Deus vult!
>>552578410I don't know if the servitor on the battle barge was grown or converted, but considering that he had to take pain suppressants, shows that he could feel pain.
the burst bolt pistol is secretly the worst heroic by far
>>552581984Death's Grasp is fucking dog shit.
>>552581984It looks cool and reminds me of OG bolt pistols so I refuse to use anything else now.
>>552564361>jobbed to the OrksAre we talking about the Crimson Fists or the Imperial Fists?>>552578096False, the average life expectancy in the Ultima Segmentum of even a helot without rejuvenat treatments is around 80 years, and they’ll be mostly happy ones surrounded by beautiful Greco-Roman architecture and natural beauty
>>552583017The Crimson Fists never jobbed to the Orks, they won every fight but they had a catastrophic freak accident that wiped out 70% of the chapter.
>>552585220So they jobbed to a cruise missile?
>>552585553it doesn't really matter since in the end the Crimson Fists won that war and fully recovered.
>>552585815So did they or did they not job to a cruise missile?
>>552581984It's the power sword, chainsword, bolt pistol and power fistHeavy bolter, heavy bolt pistol are also terrible but not the worst
Heroic Multi-Melta should give you the Block defense type and you can prog Adrenaline Surge either with a melee or your next melta shot
>Prestige 4 Tact joins squad>Transhuman Physiology>Dies every other encounterPrestige should have been gatekept by something other than levels.
>>552593227With how long it takes I don't know how someone can reach P4 in even a single class without accidentally gaining some competence. No matter what roadblocks you put in place it seems people are always going to find a way to be retarded.
>>552599553You can reach P4 with just Ruthless and never touching Lethal and/or Absolute.
Couldn't get any replies but I just bought DarktideDoes anyone want to play? I've never played it before.its me IAmGay
>>552600726
>>552602290>go to the darktide general>me: yeah I enjoyed sm2 and vermintide so I got darktide if anyone wants to play>some random anon: >space marine 2>go to the /sm2/ general>me: yeah I got darktide and was wondering if anyone wanted to play>some random anon: >darktidewhy are you guys so anti fun
>>552600726I play darktide but I suck at it.
>>552603086Because I fucking hate Darktide and I don’t want to type out a 4-5 paragraph essay detailing every thing Darktide did wrong again. Saber is a bunch of retarded fucking vatniks and almost anyone could probably do a better job managing SM2 than they have. Darktide might even be an objectively better game than SM2 right now. But at least Saber hasn’t blatantly lied to my fucking face and then tried to pretend that they didn’t.
Space Marine 3 should taken away from Saber and be given to Creative Assembly.
>>552605567A small family company like CA couldn’t possibly get the necessary budget together for SM3.
>>552605567absolutely fucking not CA wanted to make hyenas they shouldn't be trusted with anything without sega's leash tight around their neck
We should give Space Marine 3 to Relic!
What prestige perks do I get for vanguard
>>552609240grappling hook gives 1 armour tabincreased ranged damage for <10mfortitudelast one could be anything, i have increased grenade damage
>>552609396Does the grenade damage perk really add anything to any nade that isn't a regular frag?
>>552616972Not really but at the same time Exigency Charge is entirely worthless, restoration is low value right next to Launch Restoration, which only leaves indomitable spirit which is useless with Upper Hand.
>>552617582>which only leaves indomitable spirit which is useless with Upper Hand.I actually just take the 15% more melee damage on the regular perk tree and take Indomitable Spirit.
>>552604804>Saber is a bunch of retarded fucking vatniks and almost anyone could probably do a better job managing SM2 than they have.Saber has made several asinine design decisions when updating and balancing the game, but other than that, they are doing a remarkably good job. What other developer could've made this game and not turn it into monetization hell with retarded update schedule?Look at Darktide itself, it took them 2 years to get the game into an acceptable technical state, with shit even dumber than what Saber did.
>>552591430Powersword is great, I dunno what you're talking about. 20% range/damage on power rake doesn't sound like a lot, but it is. Shit slaps.>"but balance parry"It just takes getting used to
>>552619912I personally don't like its swing speed.
>>552620169You should be spamming rake and whirl, and those animations are the same across the board, so it's no biggie
I just played with a guy who refused to pick up two medical stims despite having 1/10 of his health, then died when one chaos spawn rushed him.I really dont understand why this is such an issue in these types of games.
>>552621517Just use the golden rule>ping the stim/relic>if a person refuses to pick it up after 10 seconds, standing there like an idiot, just pick it up yourself.
CODES? IN MY THREAD?
>>552628861Its 7:30 AM on a sunday morning after the end of a break periodpeople are getting what little rest they have left before going back to school/work
>>552630660fair enough.
>>552591430The heavy bolt pistol is goated. It's a run saver with how you can just pop a reinforcement caller. You prevent 2 more Extremis from showing up, dumpster a Majoris without it going into Devil Trigger, and if it's Nids, you also get the psychic backlash either stunning, killing, or putting Minoris into execute. Sometimes on solo runs, I'll actually bait out reinforcement calls by running ahead of the enemy group just to pick off a couple Majoris and thin out the swarm.
>>552604804I've never played Dark Tide. Is it worth getting into as a new player? My only experience with it is watching the trailer and listening to Disposal Unit. Is the game as fun as Left 4 Dead 2? All the menus and shit look like absolute cancer. Like some Back 4 Blood type shit.
Leveling this build is a fucking pain, bro fr fr onE
>>552634510It's really fun, and yeah it's about as fun as l4d2 imo, if not more. The vibe is different to sm2 though, since you're not playing as supersoldiers doing operator shit during an apocalypse, but instead you're a group of 'normal' humans fighting through 10 kilometers of literal evil god shit to survive and do missions.On higher difficulties the enemy density is like 4-6 times more than in sm2.The problem with Darktide is with it's cosmetic monetization and glacial pace of meaningful updates that add new maps, weapons and classes. It's so bad to the point where I am willing to let a lot of shit SM2 devs do slide, because at least we get consistent patches and great customization along with quality customization.I have equal hours in both sm2 and Darktide.
>>552636763I might have to give it a try if I can be a regular degular Guardsman. I wanna larp as Tanith. Cadians are fucking gay.
>>552616972the other three prestige perks are trash so i picked the most "useful" oneexigency charge is useless since as a vanguard you shouldn't be on low hp unless you're playing with that shit damage over time modifierkilling 7 minoris to get one armour tab is also fucking useless since vanguard only has 2 armour tabs and you really shouldn't be running out of it thanks to the grapple hook perk20% increased grenade damage won't kill majoris/extremis but it damages them further a bit to save ammo/meleeing time
>>552641369How come the imperium doesn't make use of snazzy acronyms>Greater good?>I'm DeathwatchIt don't work
>>552643749>Dr. Bile>I'm OH of the HOotEIDoesn't have the same ring, does it?
>>552563076Thank The Emperor the Sons of Dorn are here to help me. :) Surely my safety is assured.
>>552562759//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System, CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE. >All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.>All Brothers are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.Welcome Brothers! I hope you are and have all been doing well since last year when the last update was posted. This time around the update is rather minor but no less crucial:- Recently submitted Flesh Tearer Dude has been added to both versions of the Wall;- Small adjustments to alignment of certain dudes have been made in the image version.For those who might've missed the last update (since it *was* a month ago), there was an update to Black Templars' frames to better suit their chapter theme. I've had a few other designs lined up, but I had to put those plans on hold for a little while. I'll probably get back to working on them in a week or two.You can rest assured, the Dude Wall is still going strong despite a short hiatus. As always: should you have /YourDude/ to post, be sure to do so.Happy New Year Brothers and enjoy the latest DudeWall!Signing off,Wall Anon=FYI=>**Ultra high quality version of the Dude Wall is available on the website**>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/ **Glory to the Imperium!//// END TRANSMISSION ////
>>552634510If you want to play Darktide because you like 40K, play DarktideIf you want to play Darktide because the gameplay looks fun, play Vermintide 2, it’s a better game in pretty much every single way
>>552650883Thank you for your unceasing service to the Emperor anon
>hard siege>heavy bot>300 kills on average>assault bot>struggles to reach 90 kills
how do I win against the terminator with missiles? I can't get close to him or he instakills me with the barrage, I can't snipe him from afar or he instakills me with the barrage
>>552671516You have to close the distance and bear with the missile barrages. You're not really going to be able to reliably strafe the soulreaper shots and fire back with your gun and reliably retaliate.
Astartes! CODUS POSTUS!
>>552673251but when I close the distance I just get instaraped by the missiles anyway???
>>552650883Based WallAnon.
>>552675835Just practice dodging.
>>552675835You’ll take at least a little bit of chip damage 99% of the time but it’s not hard to avoid the majority of the missile barrage once you get good at dodging it
Playing the highest difficulty, with people of the highest level, and they regularly still don't know that you can clear mortal wounds, or that the Vanguard is running a perk to let them heal from executes. Impressive playerbase, this game.
>>552679002>think Heavy team perk that lets you full heal people is an anti shitter perk>mfw shitters don't know they can't heal mortal woundsIt's ogre
>>552679996>year of our lord mmxxviii>sm3 gets released>prestige 10 level 100 players on EXTERMINATUS difficulty still dont understand how coherency works>mfw
These necron gauss beams literally one-shot me through full armor? Who the fuck designed this?
>>552670072Anon no matter the game mode heavy bot is on some crazy shit, like maybe half as good as a real player and the other bots are nowhere near close to actually contributing
>>552679002You still have players complain via chat to only let the Vanguard kill Extremis enemies so everyone can heal...
>>552684685Normies might be dumber than we thought
>>552685035Only 20% beat Ruthless, not sure if the achievement ticks if they also beat Lethal/AbsoluteYou have normoids buying this game on sale, playing the campaign up until the finale of the first chapter and then quitting. Some normoids will continue up until Kadaku and then they'd drop the game for something elsePlayers on /v/ despise the grinding required for PvE and these fags aren't normies anymore
>>552684685To be fair, I main vanguard and I do instinctly go for the execution regardless if I need the health or not.
Is this an accurate Black Templar
>>552692617>red shoulder trim is correct>black and red heraldry on shoulders are correct as well>leg heraldry is whatever, as long as it's not fucking templar knees>color is correct The trim on other details could be gold or silver, not white, but it's up to you.
>>552690113>I do instinctly go for the execution regardless if I need the health or not.Everyone should do this anyway, faster E wins.
Rate my heraldry.
>>552696846Orange Creamsicle looking ass
>get to final area of weekly>hellbrute spawns with 30 meatballs>somehow survive>team does customary for the emperor morale boost as we go to the train control>second hellbrute spawns at train controlwe managed to beat the mission but holy shit that was close, back to back hellbrute is rough
>>552700296They need to rollback on these Terminus spawns
>>552700813Rollback to when there was a guaranteed double spawn? I agree, i'm completing too many absolutes now and they're starting to get more annoying than challenging
>>552701278Rollback when a single Terminus spawn was just a possibility and not a guarantee
>>552701387>Rollback when a single Terminus spawn was just a possibilityhahahaha no
Since Saber hates their playerbase beating their maps just introduce a modifier that every area spawns a Terminus or two but there will be no Minoris, Majoris and Extremis
>>552701387>rollback to when I had a 100% guarantee of completing an Absolute run and there was no tension or possibility of failure Nah I’m good, thanks, I like actually being engaged in my vidya
>>552701668>>552701456This is why your game will die and remain forgotten
>>552701802>your coop pve game will die because the hardest possible difficulty that 80% of people don't ever touch is hardyeah, sure buddy, that's whyBosses are easy shit, the one hellbrute that comes out on a normal strat melts in under 15 seconds. Even with the HP scaling the bosses themselves aren't actually an issue on absolute unless you shouldn't be playing absolute, its the spawn waves that are the actually troublesome part
>>552701802This would have been a good post if you said this a year ago
>fighting Carnifex in the installation on Extraction>it charges into a railing and disappearsOkay
>>552703495Yeah he does that sometimesFirst time i saw it honestly pissed me off because shit was almost dead and i wanted its execute for the healingLiterally was about to power fist the fag in the face and then >poofgone
Any notable leaks over Christmas?
>>552704883Yeah I pissed my pants a few days ago
>>552698973I was actually think that when I made him lol. Still I'm hoping for some fed back to help improve my homebrew chapter.
>>552706805I mean there’s not much to say. Congrats, you made an orange dude with a not-terrible color scheme. Without any context or knowledge of your chapter there’s not much discussion to be had other than “congrats, orange is hard to work with and he doesn’t look like completely dogshit”
I had an idea for a homebrew.>Unknown founding, stuck on a name>Hammer neural implants into their aspirants and nearly all members of the chapter devolve into frenzied madmen within 200 years>Oldest serving astartes is the chapter master at 400 years, is very twitchy and has a lot of facial tics, sometimes struggles to even form a coherent sentence>Not well regarded by the wider Imperium, known for brutality and disregard for collateral damage, but kept off the radar of the wrong people due to their isolationist nature and general thoroughness when it comes to butchery>The twist is that despite being carbon copies of World Eaters, they're Blood Angels who don't know their origin and conceived the implants as a way to curb their unexplainable thirst for blood, resulting in them all falling to the red thirst without even knowing why or what it is before too long
>>552712665Too similar to the World Eaters despite explicitly trying to distance them from the World Eaters Next
>sundayCan't wait for the week to reset tomorrow since you know it's going to be MONDAY and my whole week is going to RESET, can't wait to play some video games tomorrow!
December's monthly update was released early because of the holidays. Is January just going to be radio silence until the final week?
>>552708370Still working on the chapter name but I already have an outline of what their combat doctrine is gonna be.
Man i really want to get the double adrenaline rush, double charge aftershock slam on a terminus but the opportunities are so rare
>>552717782Most of my games actually reset on Tuesday
Is fortitude a good perk for vanguard?
>>552729973I don’t know these shits by name bro at least describe the effect of it
>>552729973Its your third choice by defaultVanguard is not especially spoiled for choice on prestige perks
>>55273046515% health
>>552704883Russians go back to work on 12th of january, so expect nothing prior to that.
Does the bulwark prestige perk that improves stim HP regen improve it enough to clear a critical wound if you pop one after rez or do you still need other external factors to help with that? Just about to hit P4 and it was either that or the ammo regen on extremis kill
Please god tell me they're going to overhaul some of the customization?I just want skulls on my belt when I use the chained rampart.
>>552745395NoThey're too incompe- it'd be too much work, since the system was never designed for that initially. They'll consider it for SM3.
is there a good assault build that actually helps or clears enough enemies faster then sniper/heavy/tac?
>>552746776>>552745395nta, but I am surprised they didn't add fancy lower half to the fancy breastplates, even if those bits are something from the already existing relic gear. Seems like a no-brainer.
>>552748869If you're just asking for peoples builds then here is what I use (balance powerfist), if you're asking for a miracle build that can outcompete a flamer then no such thing exists.
Am I a fag for dressing up like a luna wolf?
>>552754808>luna wolfnah they're cool despite their primarch
>>552754808NoReal fag hours are Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, War Hounds, Optimus Prime, Unit-01, gummy bear combos and Blood Ravens with le heckin stolen weapons
>open steam thread>anon asks for recs>recommend him SM2 brohers did I do good?
>start up the daily Exfiltration stratagem>i'll just start it and wait for people to join>any minute now>any minute now>any minute now>end up finishing it aloneprobably the first time I've ever completed a level solo and it was completely unintentional. I suppose as far as modifiers go this one was easy
>>552756620I know Horus didn't get a huge window to do shit post heresy, since he didn't survive passed 30k. He was the head of the chaos rebellion though. He managed to sway half the legions to his cause. He defeated arguably the most powerful primarch of them all, and wounded the emperor in his prime, the most powerful human in history, to the point that he's now a permanent vegetable even 10k years later. Not to mention that chaos warbands, despite being severely splintered now, have maintained their war with the imperium for 10k years and counting, which isn't necessarily Horus's doing, but still worth mentioning.Yeah, ultimately, he mostly failed, but you can't exactly call him a jobber. He accomplished a lot and got very far before he got btfo, no?
lobby codes?I wanna finish leveling my bulwarkZ4NSN
>>552767084I'll be there in a minute.Just polishing off a shit.
>>552767374my code may have expired, post your own when you're done
>>552767467It did.I'll transfer lobby leadership to you after you join. US west and a consolefag here.V657C
It's 2026 can I reject my humanity as an IH Iron father yet?
>>552767042Nah if you read the Heresy books he was a mega jobber at the end - to the Chaos Gods. I’m reading the Siege of Terra books and Horus isn’t even himself anymore. He’s basically like Theoden when he was possessed by Saruman - weak, frail, confused, and it pisses Abaddon off even before the end. It’s funny because the Emperor doesn’t even care about him anymore at that point - Horus meets the Emperor in the warp prior to the assault on Terra and tries to go on a “abloobloobloo you’re a tyrant” rant and the Emperor literally just ignores him, looks straight past him, and talks to the Chaos Gods controlling him instead. Big E knew Horus wasn’t even in control of himself anymore at that point. Which is fine, I’ve never found Horus to be a particular interesting character. His massive charisma has never really been adequately explained other than “he jokes around with his subordinates sometimes and that makes people like him.”
>>552767042>>552774283And to add, what I mean to say is that nothing Horus did during the Heresy can be attributed to him - all of it was planned for him by the Gods and he was either manipulated by their servants or just straight up controlled by the Gods themselves to do what they wanted. He wasn’t responsible for swaying the Legions - their own representatives of Chaos did that. He wasn’t responsible for killing Sanguinius or the Emperor - the Dark Gods just did that through him. And Abaddon - who was quite literally disgusted at Horus by the end for allowing himself to be enslaved by Chaos - is the one that’s kept his rebellion alive for 10K years. Horus was, quite possibly, actually the biggest jobber and biggest chump in 40K.
>>552767935>V657Csorry i have to go but we had a few good runs!
So, I'm a new player and trying dudes out. Buddy of mine says I should save my blue currency for a Heroic weapon but frankly I'm not sure what's good and what isn't. I've been maining Tac and Heavy, and I'm trying to decide between Vanguard and Bulwark as the third thing to focus on. So far I've been really enjoying the Chainsword and Heavy Bolt Rifle. Is it just me or is plasma complete ass? May be skill or progression issue but I feel like I'm throwing using the Tactical's plasma rifle.
why the fuck would you play Obelisk
>>552778939Because I'm not a little bitch and I play and enjoy every operation equally
>>552778939Sabre fucked up when they made all operations give equal XP.I'm doing decapitation at level 1 when playing with a prestige character and reaching max level in like 5 games.
>tfw already have 2 toons at P4 LVL 25bros... what am I going to do after I get everyone to max prestige level???
>>552777530Heroic Heavy Plasma is one of Heavy’s best guns, so get that first. All of the Heroics for Tac are mid at best. Flamer is Tac’s best weapon by far. Tac’s plasma is one of his top 3 weapons alongside Stalker Bolt and Flamer, you should only ever be doing charged shots with it. It’s not good because it’s damage is insane like flamer, it’s good because it provides on-demand Majoris stagger (which bolt weapons can’t do) and it recovers contested HP very well in a single shot.
>>552779942Log in once a week to run weeklies until more content arrives.
>>552777530Use only fully charged shots. Also, try aiming around your target's feet, rather than at their chest. Bodyshots have massively reduced damage (for all weapons), but AoE splash does not.
>>552782120>>552785771>Heavy's plasma wants to spam.>Tac's Plasma wants to charge.>Been doing the opposite for my entire twenty hours.Thank you Brothers, I shall put this into practice.>Stalker Bolt RifleHaven't used that since the campaign. What puts it above the noob tube ones and the HBR?
>>552788757>Haven't used that since the campaign. What puts it above the noob tube ones and the HBR?Absolutely ridiculous headshot damage. You'll need like 4 headshots to kill a warrior while I haven't fucked with the HBR in so long that I don't even know how many rounds it takes to kill a majrois anymore.
>>552776153Ggz
>>552788757Only the Heroic Heavy plasma you get with blue triangles should spam - it’s got 200% increases normal shot damage and can’t charge. The regular Heavy Plasma should still use charged shots 99% of the time.
noob here coming from drg and hd2is there a way to browse current missions in progress or is quick match the only way to join randos?
>>552793001No lol
>>552793001if you are willing, i'd like to join and help you with operations (leveling my lower leveled classes.)
Where shall I plant this bump?
Just had a weird “time is a flat circle” deja-vu moment. The first time I ever heard the band Demon Hunter and the first time I ever really heard what 40K was when I was like 15 years old watching one of those old “metal song over a slideshow of 40K images” tribute videos, and it was Demon Hunter’s “1000Apologies” over a Horus Heresy compilation. Now at 33, here I am watching a YT video about Demon Hunter’s musical history with a Demon Hunter tattoo on my arm and a Horus Heresy novel next to my keyboard. Time really is a flat circle.
>>552810665I know the video you are talking about anon. God, I feel old.
>>552817435I like to think that even if I only make it to 80, I’ve still got more than half my life ahead of me.
>>552789250It's a'ight.
>1D 3:01Fucking horseshit
>>552820679Yes, that's when the week resets, what is the issue here mate?
>>552754527i like using the damage and refund on jetpack dodge with the refresh on ground pound kill. its kino
>>552827724Is it cuz he’s black or because he’s a vanguard?
>>552828110It's because he's a bot
>24 hours till daily resetI better see some codes tomorrow...
NEWSWHEN
>>552841825I’ll be posting mine when I get off work and have some beers lined up
Why are Imperial Fists always the best players?
> releases a horde mode than never updates it> new content is 1 operation or just customisationits become blatantly clear they had no post launch plan and just scrambled to come up with a way to milk the game longer.
>>552859124>its become blatantly clear they had no post launch planI concur. That's something we've been saying for some time now, but every month just brings this theory closer and closer to reality. And it's a sad one at that, because they're squandering such potential this game could have. From PvE to customization it's left to rot and there's no one at Saber to care enough about the quality and reasonable changes that could be made if they forgot about their pride for a moment. I get some people say they didn't promise anything, but it's a bit cynical. When devs release a game playerbase has every right to hope for and expect updates, fixes, maybe even changes the team hadn't thought of throughout the game's life. That's my take on SM2. Not a bad game by any means, hell, by today's standards one could say it's a well-rounded title and it seems enough for devs/publisher to rest on their laurels. Sorry for the rant and thanks for reading my blog.
>>552860321>page 10>guy writes some mega post >page 6So how are the other generals still alive
>>552860557All /vg/ threads inevitably are overrun by schizos who will literally post all day about nothing because they want to be the king of the thread. Dogshit posters eventually drive away real posters, and eventually the thread becomes a complete circlejerk where if you post some innocuous question you will get accused of being X schizo by Y schizo because he posted the same question 6 months ago.Brother >>552860321 is not wrong though. Saber fucked up the good will people had at every turn.
>>552827984I think I'm too much of a boomer to utilise this build correctly, otherwise I'm pretty sure it's the best way to play assault.
>>552860557Most /vg/ threads either get schizo personality fags who become identifiable by name because they want a parasocial relationship or just gets spammed with random lewdpostingGenerals are a place where discussion go to die generally. Very, very few games can actually sustain 24/7 discussion about it without it become some discord tier shit. If /v/ weren't also too goddamned fast everything in these threads could easily fit on there with some occasional codes threads, or on /vm/ but that board is dead slow so nobody would visit it
I think neurothropes should be removed from the game
>>552877819I love swatting them out of the air with heavy fist attacks so they should stay
>>552879113Does locking onto zoanthropes or neurothropes actually make you attack upwards?This would be some top secret tech I would instantly need to learn to use.
I had to sell my shotgun. Someone hold me. I had to sell my fucking child just to make ends meet this month.
>>552859124funny how they are still delivering more content than games with an actual plan
>>552881632i had to sell my AR to afford rent a few years ago, hold fast brotherit's only gonna get worse
HOLY FUCK ASSAULT WITH MELTA BOMBS IS SO FUKKING DEGENERATE
Join.HJ6GJ
>>552895216booting up
I wonder if they'll make more than one heroic variant per weapon
Wish you could colour the colurs of the bristles of the "mane" of some of the tactical helmets
>>552903715Only one colourway and its used by the Ultramsurfs, Fists and Minotaurs.
>>552903715There's no "u" in color, fuckboy.
>>55290428440k is an Enlgih IP chud
>>552881632Who the fuck uses shotguns in 40k?
>>552911205Space Marine Scouts used to be able to option them on the tabletop he sold his literal actual shotgun to be able to eat
>>552890984Just wait until you do the same with one of the classes that are good at using them
>>552911885Like?Trying on bulwark and i'm getting some mad results there too
>>552912379Bulwark must be the worst at it since he has zero equipment regenAssault is probably second worst because his equipment regen perk competes with a different perk that is goodVanguard and heavy are slightly better because for them the same regen perk is probably best in slotTactical is significantly better because you get one back at a faster rate without having to do anything (though this also applies if you have a competent tactical on your team since it's a team perk)Sniper is arguably the best since his regen perk has a measly 30 second cooldown and is piss easy to trigger, and since he can cloak and nuke his own position without taking damage (oh and you can prestige perk them to have 15% increased radius, but that's probably more dangerous to you than it is to the enemy)
You are never solving the captcha if you failed this shit
>>552881632The class naming forever handicap weapon selection
>>552914852Imagine if the tutorial was better though>tutorial is just a single button that needs to be pressed>literally "interact with the highlighted thing">this teaches you that if you see a shrine with the icon on it, you should interact with it just like every other interactable thing in the game>extra bad if you are distracted during the conversation about the sigils and miss that they talk about them matchingI mean, even among those who do fail that, the majority of them will probably realise pretty quickly what the issue is. At the very least, I've never had the puzzle fail more than once in a run.If the tutorial had three shrines with one being correct, it would actually teach you the trick to it. You'd still have experienced players solving it before new players could even try it out, but it'd definitely be better designed.
>>552917465I'm sorry, but if you need a tutorial for a """puzzle""" this simple then the game should just alt+f4 itself and start up Roblox for you
>>552917635Not going to argue with thatThey clearly decided to not do it for reclamation's computer puzzle, which is the same level of difficultyBut there inarguably is a tutorial, and it's a bad oneIt could be removed to save the players some time (since that scripted sequence usually feels extremely long) or improved to actually teach the thing it should teach
What compels lvl 20+ niggers to go into average operations and state at the wall when in trying to speed thru the mission to lvl up my low ranked guys
>Raven guard amd Raptors cosmetics soonHoly based
>>552920919Holy ESL
What should I take as my 4th prestige perk for bulwark? I already have increased charge damage, increased ranged damage, and partial ammo refill on elite execution.
>>552639289>GuardsmanThere's literally a class for that but they're the most boring to play, imo.
>>552921213Invulnerability banner is clutch against Terminus enemiesExtra medkit heal isn't that bad either, take it if you're a shieldnigger with no heal banner
Why don't they do a campaign for chaos boys?
>>552921883"Space book says no" please understand. Small indie development team please understand. Loyalists helping the loyalist cause please understand. Ultramarine game please understand. They'd have to make new armor and record new voice lines please understand. It's not lore friendly please understand. GW says they can't do it please understand.
>>552921883That reads like a displeasure at the SM2 content, Comrade! Expect a visit from your handler from Petropavlovsk soon!
>>552920919>playing anything but lethal/absoluteasking for trouble
>>552921883The real answer is that it would only have 25% of the playerbase that SM2 has - and make only 25% less money. Most fans of 40K aren’t actually fans of Chaos.
>>552927327>Most fans of 40K aren’t actually fans of Chaos.I've seen a number of casuals be interested in Chaos on a surface level, especially the perpetually horny crowd when they hear about Slaanesh or the faux intellectual crowd with Tzeentch.But the second you show them what Chaos Space Marines or just the shit that the cultists get up to with human sacrifices, general enslavement, insanity, and mutation then they'll most likely balk away.
One time I fought the Tyranid Primes on Absolute and they had Extremis enemies spawn in during the fight and I thought this was the hardest terminus fight ever because biovores and zoans would absolutely fuck anyone over when you're restricted to that small circle when the floor gets electrified.But extremis spawns haven't happened again in the Primes' arena.
Has anyone here played necromunda?
>>552924795My lvl 3 assault with green weapons isn't gonna cut it
>>552905321And it's graced by my American patronage.
>>552928161I really like the Word Bearers. Don't know how they aren't more popular. They aren't just busting harder nuts now that they're following Chaos. Let's say that you get a 100% confirmation that God was real, but He not only demands sacrifice, he demands you to suffer for no reason other than that you're alive. The suffering saint is an idea that's perpetuated throughout most if not all religions. Jesus on the Cross, Samson at his stockade, Jonah and the Whale, Buddha in his attainment of Enlightenment. Even look at Celestine and her resurrection process, Sabbat and her holy wounds, the Emperor himself and the Golden Throne. The 4 are no different in what they demand of everyone. To turn your back on them because what they ask of you is too great is cowardice. Them being ideologically driven, and in a way that makes sense, is why I like them more than the other Traitors. If I knew that carving scriptures into my skin would ingratiate me to God, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
>>552932017t. ErebusKYS
>>552928161>get up to with human sacrifices, general enslavement, insanity, and mutationHonestly not much worse that what the imperium does to its people.
>>552932470You hear the painful truth, but choose the comforting lie. Is this what your "courage" and "honor" are built on? A foundation of falsehoods? The facts care not for your feelings. God, the true God, the undeniable God, demands your sacrifice, and you have the gall to deny Him? Yet, you would make flowery speeches and cry to the heavens in service to a man who, to his dying breath, denied his divinity? How is the sacrifice demanded of the 4 any different? Every day, millions die meaningless, unseen, uncared for deaths, all in service to an Emperor they've not once felt the presence of. The 4 see and take pleasure in every ounce of suffering you go through, every minor frustration, every misfortune. Your pain means something to them.The Emperor, in contrast, cares little if anything for your microscopic life. Every day, 1,000 of the most truly gifted individuals who can commune with the great beyond are destroyed in utter agony for no purpose other than to sustain his decaying form. You would think that, if he was as benevolent as you believe, he would at least ease their suffering, but he does not. He grants them no peace. They die in torment without even a simple "Thank you.". The 4 not only see the agonies of their faithful, they REWARD them. Why suffer for a God who does not care? Who doesn't even acknowledge your service and devotion?Tell me, I'm legitimately curious, how can you still deny them?
ReminderPTS for the Techmarine is likely gonna drop anywhere between the end of this month and super early February.Actual Techmarine update will drop mid-end of February.Patch 13 will drop late March. (Also slated Q1, only way this roadmap timeline makes sense)
>>552919510Reliquary in general just has a shitload of waiting around Some of it was intentional for lampooning parts of the setting but that's only funny if its not in a regular pool for quick play same as WWZ marsielle 3 being fucking ass with the flashlight segment
>>552921050>SoonBruh the Raptors cosmetics is like five months away
>first game on lethal>Gun strike a Chaos Terminator>It super armors through and just kills me Really? I get that it's supposed to be hard but why would what's supposed to be an award for a party actually be harmful
>play inferno hard strat>vanguard loses 99% of his health on the first majoris
>>552938720Did he fuck up the rest of the map?
>>552932017>>552934996Nobody likes the Word Bearers because:A: they have a boring color scheme B: they have 0 good characters, Lorgar is a giant bitch and everyone hates ErebusC: they’re massive jobbers who lose like every fight they get into, they’re practically masters at sucking Ultramarine cock at this point Imagine being the designated bottom bitch for the Blueberries lmao
>>552942543:(I disagree about the colors, but I can't argue against anything else. Conceptually cool, but wasted. Why can't everyone have a designated Talos like the Night Lords?
>>552940279We wiped at the first terminus point
>>552948265Many such cases.
>>552948265Ah, well thenyeah that's a skill issueSometimes you just flub the first encounter because you're not spinning on all cylinders yet but then do well the rest of the time but yeah, taking 6+ hits from a single warrior then dying immediately is just a baddie who shouldn't be on absolute.>>552936961Did you dodge or parry? What attack was it doing?
>20 minutes leftanyone planning on playing during the weekly reset?
>Horus stared at Angron with a baleful eye. He allowed his brother to rant on.>”We smashed aside Dorn’s feeble defenses,” Angron said. “We broke Luna in days. Why do we know slink around the Throneworld like curs, waiting for Mortarion, when victory is in our grasp?”>”WE smashed Dorn’s defenses?” Perturabo’s leaden response simmered with anger. “I! I! I! I broke Dorn’s gates, not we!” Holy shit why is Perturabo such a manchild lmao
>obelisk>enemy ignores the first 3 hits
>>552953406Its his genetic flawFrom the very start he was always going to be best or second best at everything he did but then be a schizoid about itThe heresy was just the breaking point where he was finally able to be open and honest with himself that he wants the fucking recognition
>>552953406>I! I! I!
>press ESC>console playereverytime
>>552956163I think just about every Primarch would grow spiteful if they were shafted as hard as the Iron Warriors were. Makes me wonder what could possibly have happened to cause the Heresy if the Emperor had tried to nurture everyone. The way it's told, it makes it sound like this actually was the best outcome, and that he was going to lose 8 sons regardless of what he did. I just can't see how though. Like, if he had treated Perturabo nicely, helped Angron, and maybe, I don't know, tag teamed with Mortarion instead of kill stealing when he was one off dogs, what would make three loyalist Primarchs fall to Chaos?
>>552958042The Dark Gods would have found some other way. Horus, Fulgrim, Magnus (before he went full retard) were treated pretty well and they turned anyway.
>>552958042>I think just about every Primarch would grow spiteful if they were shafted as hard as the Iron Warriors were.Yes but the problem is that Perturabo CHOSE to do the worst, dirtiest jobs in the imperium in the most ballbusting way possible. Perturabo chose to shoulder the burdens in the hardest way possible then never said anything about it to anyone. He slits his own wrists then proffers them to the world saying "gaze upon the pain I bear!" when he's the one who cut himself. He could've easily built his own empire like Gorillaman did and made it a great place where people would sing his name but he didn't. He had all ability to choose to do things easier or to just go up to the others and sing the praises of his legion but he didn't. He sulks in the background crying about not getting recognize when he purposefully endeavors to not get recognized because some fucked up part of his brain thinks it isn't going to be worth anything if they don't do it on their own.And the kicker is that, more than likely, if anyone ever did actually recognize his accomplishments and praise his genius he'd turn his nose up at it or just not actually feel anything because he doesn't recognize the accomplishment as impressive himself and doesn't know how to receive praise.I'm not joking when i called him schizoid.Perturabo and his legion ultimately had the genetic flaw of wanting to be the Emperor's weapon. Their genetics make them want to just follow orders, to turn their brains off and do mindlessly as the guy above them demands, as was the original intended design of primarchs and marines by the emperor, but the human part of them is still there and is in agony under that lack of life.Also there was no helping angron, not without something else falling apart in the same stroke.
>>552958016I feel like i've seen that name before and I only remember names if theyre great or fucking terrible so he might've done that exact same shit in the past and still not learned
What’s the weekly
>>552959385He could've stopped the High Riders. I don't buy the bullshit about it looking bad or whatever. It's gaining a Primarch that AT LEAST lasted a handful more decades at the POSSIBLE cost of a system. IIRC from Betrayer, Nuceria was still pretty technologically basic compared to the wider setting of 30k, so it's not like if the Emperor had to force compliance it would've been a costly or time consuming campaign. He could've saved Angron's slave brethren. I'll look at it this way: instead of shitty writing, the common sense way of doing things was so simple, the Emperor overlooked it trying to gamble and scheme amongst a billion different possibilities he could see. He missed the trees for the forest, and the simple answers eluded him. I can accept such a stupid mistake being made simply because his condition as the most powerful being to exist ever, along with the weight of responsibility he would feel as Humanity's steward, made it so he overthought things.
>>552963168Fake and gay, are you new or something?
>>552965223Neceria submitted was the problem. If the Emperor was seen militaristically stomping out a planet which he already gotten a surrender from, forcing them to change their individual ways when it doesn't stop them from paying tithes, how many more worlds then would become fights when they might've surrendered peaceably. The only way to win that situation is if the planet rejected the Imperial yoke so they could justify an invasion which would paint angron as a hero.The bad writing is in adding details to the horus heresy in the first place thus turning ancient, lost myth and legend into idiotic melodrama
>>552965223Serious answer, here it is. I've got a strat in mind, but I'm not sure about how the "ignore the first 3 hits" modifier works. I'm thinking that the Flamers might have either a really slow tick rate or a really fast tick rate when it comes to damage.>Theoretical If it's really fast, using those on the Heavy and Tac would be key to opening up large groups of enemies. If it's really slow, it'd be best to go with the rate of fire Bolt Carbine and hose the area. >PracticalWe'll see.
We're trying the weekly. Emphasis on "trying". I'm currently drunk off some Fenrisian grog and am 2 steps from death.AP39B
They didn't playtest this weeklyHow do you align the islands with only 30m of view?
>>552966410Your dude should make a comment along the lines of >Now we should be able to crossJust before the final rotation lines up. Just make sure your dumbass teammates step off the plate.
>Obelisk againJesus christ.
Good effort, Penny, but I'm several beers deep, I forgot how manyh. Fuck it,. I'm done for the night/day. I dont know. Hav a good night./ day . Gonna sleep. The Emperor protects and shti.
Only took two tries.Did the Shieldwark Build alongside a Tact Auspex and Assault Strategic Strikes which melted Terminators and both Helbrutes.
Tactical with grenade launcher, Secure Stockpiles and clutch auspex skillsAssault with Terminus bonus and gunstrike memery, heroic Fencing ThunderhammerBolt carbine Vangay with Extremis heal
How the hell are you guys having to try multiple times on a mission with fucking Larraman’s Cells
assaultsissies...now is your time
>>552968953Getting overlapping red attacked by a terminator and a helbrute.
>>552968953Its still Obelisk and Shadow of the Warp fucks everything up
>>552889548Just because other devs take major liberties in developing their games doesn't mean I'll give Saber credit for doing the bare minimum. In the shittiest way possible. And besides they're getting paid to do that
>>552932017>those entities from another dimension that want to eat my soul and who can only influence my plane of existence by jumping through some convoluted hoops?>sure, I'll help themFuck you, Book Holder
>>552970520Meanwhile modders, and that's just one update.inb4>modders have more time and no red tapesuck it up, nothing's stopping russkies to put out more shit
>>552955843joke's on you, i only do normal strats for blue mana
>>552966410>he rotates the island by eye instead of waiting for the voice line to playok i now understand why so many shitters like him struggle with it
>>552972214>Lightning Clawsare gay
>>552973754
Thanks for the Doritos brothers. The heavy plasma incinerator rapes anything I point it at. Emperor's blessings upon you lads.
is black templars champ one of the best value dlcs? you can reuse those armor parts on almost every class
>>552650883submitting my BA lieutenant for the dude wall
Have they said anything about adding Iron Hands cosmetics?
why does my game crash on load up from main menu every time now?
>>553000706verify files in steam
>>552972214>modders put more heart into their project leading to more content and actual fanserviceGaysWorkshop aside, passionate people like that should be at the helm of the project not some krokodil-smoking nikita and sasha from St. Petersburg.
>>552972214>no custom animations for any of that>just clipping galoreThe issue isn't the passion, but the fact that modders aren't held anywhere near to the same standard of quality.
>>553004702As if Saber doesn't have the cloaks on Sniper clip through the bonding stud shoulders egregiously.
>>553004702>standard of quality>SaberOk.
>>553004702Anon >>553009456 beat me to it.>no custom animations for any of thatYou know, I'd rather we had more customization options and missions then devs coming up with new melee weapons that take up unnecessary, already limited, manpower (we know they're working with a skeleton crew). They can't even do something as simple as mirroring shoulder pads, even when a semi-competent modeller would need an afternoon to do it and that's a worst case scenario.
>>552991052Received.
>>552911729There's no need to worry, America is currently the greatest it has ever been.
>queue for a hard stratagem>level 4 bulwark with no teamperkI wish you could blacklist people
>>552917465To be honest, I rarely look upwards, so the first time I played that op I didn't notice the stained glass windows at all.
>>553002392>passionate people like that should be at the helm of the projectIt wouldn't work. You underestimate how much these people (not all of them, but vast majority) value the e-clout they get from releasing these mods. If they worked at a company, nobody would ever know of their existence.
>>553013520>implying vast majority of modders would prefer e-clout to getting employedyeah nah
If you had to guess, how long do you think it will be until we get the Techmarine patch? And do you think everyone will be stuck having to play with bots in order to level it due to the class restrictions?
>>553013080They need loadouts and filters for PvE quick>only accept players near you (<100 ping)>only join lobbies with max prestige players>[at your own risk] only join lobbies with X classes>only join same platform players (will ensure you'll never play with Microshit and Snoyggers whom you can't communicate with anyway)>filter out blocked players from joining you or joining them
>>553015476Oh sure, they'd jump on the opportunity to get hired, but a few months/years down the line they'd quit due to feelings of not being valued enough, start their own studio, show one mock-up of a game, rake in donations and then vanish without a trace. Happened many times already.
>Heretics have infiltrated the Battle Barge!
>>553018963I would love a repel boarders mission
>>553018963ain't you supposed to be a darker shade of red
Oh yea, time to watch Guardsmen give their lives to the Emperor, praise be his name.
That’s the funny part about mods in this game to meYou can’t play online with them, so you install them, play dress-up for an hour, play a round or two with bots, then get bored and uninstall them
>>553025317friendless fag
>>553025317Black Shield problems.
>>553026184All of my friends are playing Arc Raiders, they moved on from this game months ago
>>553025317>console cope
>>553027229and you didn't follow along?>bro
>Blud Rehvans lose an entire battle barge to just one Ork Kroozer
>>553030749It was captained by Gorgutz, who has basically been a thorn on the Imperium's side for at least a century now.
>>553029638NTA, but >playing AI infested crap extraction shooter over kino marine 2
i dont think assault's sprint attack buff perk works on powersword
>>553032445It doesn't work save for the power fist (not the heroic one) and only againt TyranidsSmall famiry company prease understandu
>>553034424i just tested it and it is working. a gaunt takes two sprint attacks to kill with it on and over 4 with it off, im using the faster balanced sword. i think with powerfist and thunder hammer, they have the +50% damage weapon perk, which seems to upgrade the sprint attack damage from 0.5x to 1x, then the assault perk doubles this to 2x plus a bit of extra aoe damage putting the sprint attack above 44 damage so you can vaporize minoris. with the powersword and chainsword it just makes it into a 1x damage attack for about 25 damage including the bonus aoe. axe is busted so it works will with it and it has the aoe damage weapon perk
>>553032239The Emperor protects from extractionslop.
i think i do like the sprint damage perk over the charge damage perk. i sprint attack a lot while dodging and running towards enemies and to apply the new act of attrition 25% bonus damage perk
>come back after a long time of not playing SM2 and bring myself up to speed on what's newWhy in the ever loving Emperor's fuck are they releasing a paid DLC with voicelines and a few heads? Did they hire Cavill to voice all of them and they need to turn a profit after paying him? I can't believe they didn't make hand over fist from selling season pass 1.I suppose they will charge double or some amount at least for a Techmarine too even if you have the season pass. You know since he's going to have a unique voice(lines) and his own visuals i.e. head. They must be high as fuck out in that Kazachstan or wherever they are based now. Fucking bait and switch, this wasn't meant to be GaaS that's what they said it verbatim themselves around launch. If that's indicative of what they are planning behind the scenes then boy am I excited for the sequel. I hope they get review bombed to Warp for this.
>>553044465They won’t
>>553044465Don't think we've heard anything about paying for the techmarine.
EZ weekly
>>553068507Yeah Larry’s means a free win
I can't tell if block makes following blow better or worse
Anybody wanna hard weekly with me seems like nobody is queuing itSIZ77
>>553071785nvm, people finally joined
man, single terminus spawns are kind of boring now
>Obelisk + DarknessFuck off.
>>553076284I mean the entire interior is basically the same, the eyes aren't that hard to spot and with larraman cells the only problem is if there's a sorcerer spawned out past your vision when youre in the middle of something
>>553076284>>553071785Post code if you haven't beat it
>>553076740beat both of them first try and am a little marined out at the moment, gonna play some other gaymes and maybe cycle back later
>>553076284imagine vortex + darkness...
ded general
>>553085368Been lurking this general since yesterday, bought SM2 on sale like a year ago but only just started playing online this week. Been playing tac with a heavy bolt rifle and plasma secondary. Anything I should know?
>>553088280Heavy bolt rifle does not scale well into the hardest difficulties. Use it early to level up melees and secondaries then level all the other primaries you can or else you will regret it when your skilled enough to move up in difficulty but don't have the leveled up loadout
>>553044465>Why in the ever loving Emperor's fuck are they releasing a paid DLC with voicelines and a few heads>retard alertBecause we weren't promised that part of content in the first place, and voice actors are not cheap, broke-ass
>>553088525>Heavy bolt rifle does not scale well into the hardest difficultiesstill good to level it up along the stalker in case you get tired playing the meta. i wonder if we ever get to see bolt weapons on par with alternatives before sm3
>>553088525Thanks.Is there a guide or something though? Other than the prestige perks in the sticky most of the tier lists and other things I found online were last updated like over a year ago so I imagine there have been some balance patches since then.
These sorry excuse of devs haven't even touched anything carcharodons or raptors related. There's absolutely ZERO content for future patches. Nothing they could even share. Oh I'm laffin'.
>>553090040can somebody change 'carcharadon' to 'iron hands'
>>553089418There are build guides a plenty, playing is a different matter entirely because its almost all just fundamentals and knowledgeJust play and when you're comfortable enough in the worst of what the current difficulty you're on can throw at you move up to the next one. Its all just incorporating stuff until it becomes subconscious and routine. Even fighting a dozen warriors and some extremis on absolute starts becoming normal once you're used to it
>>553090040>that picKek. They're probably working on 10 other games now Brother. They're so spread out between projects even making a base-color skin would be an insurmountable task for them. A few people are working on SM2 now, best case scenario.>>553089058>promisesWhat is this? Kindergarten? It was their decision to make them. They could've used this time and money to fix their bugs that are plaguing the game. And a number of people bought season pass 2, not to mention year 1 and anything in between. Let's not pretend they had some high hopes and sales predictions for this game. They made fuckload of money to finance extra content. Which leads me to>voice actors are not cheapThat should've been covered by those profits and if not. Don't spend damn time on something as non-essential as new voicelines. How about changing the dress up system so people can really customize their dudes?
>>553090870>fag bawlin about not getting his self-imposed standardCry about it
>>553090040Did they just make the Techmarine and nothing else they said they would for the upcoming patch? ffs this is pathetic
>>553090870You're talking about the devs being spread thin across the company, yet you are a bitch about them wanting to keep fueling their projects... what do you want, bro? Is your daddy not giving you your allowance? Do you even have a Progenitor?
>>553089058I accept your concession.
>>553090040>devs don't talk about a cosmetic pack>"wE ArE oNLy geTtInG dA tEChiE">"sAbrE iS nOt aNNouNCinG aNythInG">"iTs sO oVeR"Delusional
>>553091585nta but Saber are hilariously famous for doing a ton projects at the same time ( Turok: Origins, KOTOR remake, JP game, Toxic commando etc)and its at the cost of their supposedly biggest one SM2. Rumors about them working a skeleton crew are looking pretty close to reality.they should focus on fixing the game first not head dive into monetization. not with SM2 they shoudn't
>>553092209And what exactly needs to be fixed, bro?
>>553091585They are too spread across development for different games.>what do you want, bro?I mentioned that bro. A quick read through the post you replied to would answer your burning question:>They could've used this time and money to fix their bugs>How about changing the dress up system so people can really customize their dudes?Give it a shot next time. I believe in you bro!
>>553092752What bugs are you blabbering about? Are you that desperate for minor bug fixes?>customize their dudesSo it mostly comes from petty complaints that can be fixed with modsIt truly is a kindergarden in here
>>553093173>modsnigga I'm a consolefag, how about they get their act straight and make something for everyone
>>553093526>console fagNo wonder ya'll are mad about more DLCs, ya can't afford it. Nigga instead you pay for a subscription to play online. GTFO
>>553092286off the top of my head?>neurothrope beam hitbox still works like it wants including phasing through terrain>parries and blocks not registering>models clipping, even on the latest skin packs and gear>matchmaking crapping itself more often than not (and some anons talked about standards that Saber have, lol)>countless loading screens (though this is shitty programming at its core more than a bug)The top two are the most glaring ones and the neurothrope one has been around since launch so they had all the time in the world to fix that one
>>553093921>top twoLol git gud scrub>Matchmaking crapping itselfSo it happened to you once or twice, gonna cry a flask for me about it?>Countless loading screensNot a bug, as you said, ya impatient twat. Start hosting your own games then
>>553093173>download a mod>play around customizing my dude>yay, I got my near perfect marine>realize now I can't play with anybody because I have a mod installed>either uninstall the mod or make someone install it too so we can play togetherAre you on drugs anon?
>>553094216Do you not have friends, anon?... oh wait, don't answer lmao
>>553094341Man, however am I gonna recover from that?Simply put, I don't play this game exclusively and not only with friends at that. People have lives you know that anon? Oh wait, no need to answer that ;^)
>>553094178We gotta badass over here guys!
>>553094754Do you have a life? :^D
>>553093173>So it mostly comes from petty complaints>pettyDo you know what setting the game is in? It's 99% about playing dress up. They may not have predicted SM2's popularity but it doesn't mean they couldn't or can't course correct and make something people would enjoy.>that can be fixed with modsIf this was Skyrim or any Todd game. SM2 is an "action, co-op, third person shooter". Offloading all the work on mods won't cut it and you're fooling yourself if you think this would solve the problem everyone is dealing with. That aside, the game has enough problems with shitting the bed about mods when you're on clean vanilla installation anyway.
>>553093735you're high as fuck my dude, lay off the pipe
where do these edgelords come from? Stop skipping classes you little shits
>>553095360>It's 99% about playing dress upIt'd more like 60%, the rest is on Gameplay and The Campaign, with 1% in PVP>offloading all the work on mods won't cut it and you're fooling yourself if you think this would solve the problem everyone is dealing withYou are fooling yourself by playing on a console and paying an online subscription. Considering how much mods tank the performance, what makes you think that devs would be able to optimize all that while developing fresh new content alongside that with the devs being spread thin? Retards like you will keep seething no matter what, so catering to your wants is gonna be pointless
>>553095914>It'd more like 60%, the rest is on Gameplay and The Campaign, with 1% in PVPThe you don't know the target audience and people playing. Even reddit of places agrees on that.>You are fooling yourself by playing on a console and paying an online subscription. Guess again genius, I'm on PC. And the only thing that "tanks performance" are pointless particles which is exacerbated in siege or high density areas. The fact that there are games that can be optimized and not run like complete shit makes me think a *competent* dev would've done the job right. It's not impossible but certainly difficult.>Retards like you will keep seething no matter what, so catering to your wants is gonna be pointlessFor such an insightful lad you keep missing the point.You're making too many assumptions. I made it very clear what was important to me. Either way have a good one bro and enjoy the rest of your day!
>>553096554As much of a dipshit you are, you're clueless if you think devs don't acknowledge these problems and aren't trying to fix it. It must take much longer to fix them.>Even reddit places agree to thatAlright, Reddtard. Idk if you've read the announcements, but it's very clear that Saber are having a difficult time overhauling an entire customization system. They're likely saving it for SM3.If you don't like it, mods are there and there are discord servers which host modded games, if you have Blackshield Problema. Ez solution
>>553097241so what if they acknowledge them? acknowledging means fuck all when they do nothing about fixing shit such as >>553093921 but edgy people like you brush those aside going off on your 'elite gayman' routine. some stuff in there was a day one bug but you'd rather let it slide. nice one pal. and those fairy tales about having a hard time changing something, boo fucking hoo, if russkies don't like it maybe they should change job. but it won't happen, it would be too good.
>>553093921>>countless loading screensI'd unironically miss this horrible jank. Kinda makes the game feel like a comfy amateur indie project.
>>553095713not reading all this tardfighting but at least I'm happy I don't need to bump the general with dorns or hornyposting
>>553098604I'm just gonna assume you're a developer and you know what you are talking about :^]
>vortex>armor malfunction
>>553093921>parries and blocks not registeringThis. Other stuff is reprehensible sure but this one I hate to the core. Its not just janky but often messes up my flow. Fathsark start to look better by comparison, unreal.
>>553088525HBR is fine on harder difficulties. You do have the perk that increases headshot damage with every shot you land, right?
>>553111663Speaking of things that may or may not scale well into the harder difficulties how do Meltas fare? I sometimes like using them over the Pyre weapons but I have the sneaking suspicion that they are gonna lose a lot of luster once I get to Absolute.
>>553118323You can stunlock majoris enemies with the stagger but you're not going to be contributing much for Terminus enemies nor Extremis for long because you'll run out of ammo focus firing on one target.You'll also be dead weight against Zoan/Neurothropes.
Is the neurothrope healing from damaging you and your party a bug or is it an intended life leech effect?
>Obelisk daily with heavy/vanguard>Hellbrute +4 extemis spawn just before lift>vanguard refuses to go on the lift>cue battle>they both go down near the end and I clean up 2 sorcerers with less than a third of my hp left>revive them both>comment on the fact that we could've just used the lift>HEAVY tells me not to be a bitch>say it was an easy choice>get pinged and kicked moments laterHonestly experiences like these remind me that any amount of time spent with discordhumans is time criminally wasted. At least acknowledge that it was a joke that I wasn't in on.
>>553118323Depends on the class. Useless for Tactical, fantastic for Vanguard. I see Heavies using the multi melta sometimes, but I don't play Heavy so idk. Melta is 90% for clearing minoris and hitting groups of majoris all clustered together. It struggles with terminus enemies, but I use HBP for that.
>>553118323The things it does well are the things you don't really need because almost every weapon can do the same things well enough.
>>553124085I really don't understand people who kick the teammate who saves a run.
>>553124085Never go into a lobby with IRL frens, Steam frens, DiscordtroonsEven if you're right they're still going to kick (You)Only post codes here and only play with randoms when no one joins from here
I have reached my first prestige level for bulwark and am about to pic a prestige perk. Overcharge seems nice (Charged Attack Damage increases by 20%) but what exactly are charged attacks for the power sword? I couldn't find anything concrete regarding this. Are the power rake, the power whirl, the chainsword stomp, etc. charged attacks?
>>553124861>>553125336>>553120220>The dedicated melee range tank killer is shit against dangerous single targets.Figures. But that tracks with how I thought things would play out considering the pyreweapons.Second questions then, is the Chainsword good on Bulwark and is the Heroic Chainsword worth grabbing for heavy attack rev memes or is that asking too much? Asking because I can't decide on a third melee after Power Fist and Thammer.Also is the Thammer Pommel Strike just the dash attack or is there another fucking input I'm missing like the Power Axe's parry attack?
hows plasma pistol instead of heavy bolt pistol for assault? i think it looks cool with the powersword
>>553144942i asked this in a previous thread and was told its "anything where you hold the melee button instead of just tapping it" so power rake and whirl are both buffed, stomp is buffedunless the person who replied to me was also wrong but nobody in the thread corrected them so
>>553145001Your weapon on Bulwark doesn't really matter since you'll be killing everything with Intimidating Aura. Just don't pick Thunder Hammer, unless you hate your team.
>>553146329Functionally useless since the only reason you pick plasma is to hit groups of things. If you're playing Assault, you have a thunder hammer and ground pounds to do that.
>>553146329never mind, it takes 30% of its ammo to kill one ranged warrior
>>553144942The OP recommended perks are pretty solid. I can say this 100% for Bulwark at least. Go with overcharge first because it buffs your charged attack and iirc power whirl too.
live on, space marine
Weekly.NA west.JU4YK
>>553146781hammer is his best weapon
>>553160968nta, TH may be fun and if I'm bored I might run it for a meme op but it contradicts the greatest value of Bulwark - negating incoming damage (not counting aoe).
>>553160165i'm sorry brother, that was bullshit
>>553161549Where is your Emperor now?
>>553160968I can shield bash for damage while also getting to laugh at thrope orbs, terminator soulreaper cannons, enraged devourer shots, and carnifex spines. I still can't block uncharged helbrute plasma cannon shots despite what anons have been telling me.
>>5531601652/37BAPM
>>553161528negating damage is useless if you arent dying anyways. plus the best way to negate damage is to kill the enemy
>>553161549I choked and should've put the relic down in the next room faster.Apologies, brother.
Enlightened fuckin' tzangors, bro.
>staggered>disc chicken follow-up
>>553160968>shield + shield bash to close the gap between you and target>doing womp womp with hammerI don't care if gopniks updated some skills to account for TH I'll stilproudly carry my shield.
>>553161808Have fun inching your way towards two ranged Terminators covering each other.
>>553161808>using TH and having to deal with compounded terminus spawns yeah, that's a no brother
>>553162535>terminus spawnsI meant termies. Sorry it's the late hour.
Ggz, brother.
>did the hard weekly>too lazy to do the normal onethis is just a fucking chore, if I do the hard one just give me the normal rewards too
>>553161695Is this still on?
>>553164684damn straight, need to leave for a function now but i had fun brother
>>553162393>>553162535throw one nade
>>553161808Which is why you would go power fistthunder hammer is slow as fuck
>>553173987But what if I want to fill the screen with shock fields?
>>553174181Then play Assault
>squadmate looks cool as fuck>its my bot
im starting to like the plasma pistol. im using the ammo variant. its fun using non charged shots on minoris and the aoe gunstrike is cool, +25% damage when you dodge.
>>553176847It was always pretty good
Just cleared the hard weeklyAMA
Does any bro know how the libators show company heraldry? I wanna go with one plate but I can't find anything on these vampire niggas
>>553191272are you buying john carpenter's toxic commando?
>>553191272What are your thoughts on tariffs
Is there a cheat sheet somewhere containing damage break points for different weapons/enemies/difficulty or do i have to be an autistic cunt and remember those by myself
>>553146440Good to see that the the descriptions in this game are so obtuse that I'm not the only one confused.>>553147024But are those attacks "charged attacks"? In game they are only referred to as "heavy attacks">The OP recommended perks are pretty solid.Why are "Standard Bearer" and "Emboldend Stand" not recommended?
>>553192584No >>553193964I think they’re based if they fuck over countries I don’t like Primarily Turkey I fucking hate Turkey
>>553194941people started working on a damage calculator some time ago but then it turned out saber changes things without telling us and i think it was abandoned
>>553200457The power whirl and any melee attack that will end with aoe blast count as charged attacks despite what the UI tells you. Tooltips were written with many mistakes and misinfo in them, don't take them as a given.As for the perks>Standard BearerNot much utility. You could argue it'll get you out of a tough spot or help with reviving another player but that's splitting hairs.>Emboldened standMost classes already have no knockback in their own skill set so no point in picking something that could be otherwise replaced with more functionality for you and thus the team.
>>552577931You're giving people too much credit, Brother.
>>553191272Will Dan Brown finally write a 40k novel?
I am fortifying this thread.
>>553191272Do you think Project Blue Book has been secretly continued up until now?
>>553203475Alright, thx for the info
>>553191272what's 1+1
>>553213697Good, Brother
>>553191272Are you going to bump this thread?
>join Reclamation daily>lvl 14 Assault, no prestige
>>552932017The Chaos gods are fundamentally evil cosmic parasites that always take more from you than they ever give. Being in their service is more or less like being the Dark Eldar except you have to end up doing more and more fucked up shit to make sure your soul doesnt get eaten and at the end of the day they will still eat you if you die in their service unless you are someone like Kharn or Lucius.The point of the story in 40k is that everyone is wrong but turning to Chaos is like saying F U to your repressive father who keeps you sheltered and then immediately turning to crime, prostitution and drug dealing.Eventually you will learn the truth that you have been enslaved by horrific powers that care nothing for you and offer you no benefit but at that point it will be too late and in response you will cope and seethe by doing more fucked up shit to people who live better lives than you do because of your own bitterness at your poor choices.
>a small number of majoris are invulnerable for a short time>It's actually every other majoris and it lasts forever lol
>>553240576Most people who end up being claimed by warp gods aren't going out of their way to worship them initially. It can literally be as simple as "I saw a sigil once scrawled on a sheet of paper" sometimes, if not the more standard "I want to be a better martial artist/this art to be better/to get over this tooth abscess/plan ahead better" that gets co-opted by something you didn't know existed due to how controlled information in the setting. He's right in that Word Bearers are extremely fascinating in their need for faith regardless of the consequences, even if I flipflop between liking them and post-fall Emperor's Children.
>>553200457>>553203475i use both standard bearer and emboldened stand. standard bearer is a pretty dead slot, i have had situation especially when relying on heal banner where i died without standard bearer and would have died if i did not have, but its a really niche perk and pretty dead. I like emboldened stand, i do not use the stagger immunity on armor perk and only have stagger immunity after a pommel strike, so its quit nice to have your team stand strong under the banner. i think i have seen my allies get use out of it especially for carnifex fights, cant really tell thoughi use them because i only use hammer bulwark so no shield for cool down reduction on blocking ranged attacks and i find i do not need ammo on extremis kill. the charge damage perk and ranged damage perk are really good.
>>553244653Ammo on Extremis kill is pretty necessary if you take plasma pistol, which I always do because it has the best ChP recovery of any sidearm
>>553240576>you will cope and seethe by doing more fucked up shit to people who live better lives than you do because of your own bitterness at your poor choicesThis is all too real.
>>553203475>any melee attack that will end with aoe blast count as charged attacksare you talking about the last attacks from the light combos, these are considered "charged"? i just tested it and sprint attacks to not trigger momentum gain but these attacks do.
>>553245738In the case of PS charged attacks are power rake (of course) and the aoe blast you get from the ground smash on power whirl. Those are considered charged by the engine.
Is the game worth getting purely for MP?
>>553246082Depends, are you talking pve multiplayer or pvp multiplayer? The devs are almost exclusively working on the former
>>553246458Pve pretty much. How is the progression? Cosmetic only?
>>553246616Cosmetic and weapon choices. PvP is clearly not what the devs want to keep working on though.That being said, helbrute mode is pretty fun.
>>553246616Weapon grind is is both tier based and individual weapon based (accuracy variant and mag size variant track individually but both track for the weapon type), 6 classes can be prestiged 4 times, armor unlocks are purely cosmetic and based on clears with that specific class. DLC is all just cosmetic bullshit that you don't need unless you're a whale
>>553247213>>553247219Thanks bros! Can I just jump straight into MP?
>>553247420They'll make you do a tutorial first but yeah
>>553247420You need to do the tutorial in the campaign first
play space wolvesor not i don't carei don't enjoy this game anymore
>>553253429>i don't enjoy this game anymoreplay assault or hammer bulwark (without heal flag) or vanguard with inner fire
Fuck me. The Bulwarks block/parry feels super weird compared to the Tactical
>>553254065>just crank the difficulty up bromeaninglessalso>vanguard with inner firepost your handle so others can block you
>>553254638trust me initiate, you dont need healing at all when you are killing everything. you are far less likely to take any damage at all when you have more damage and more tools at your disposal. its also kino
The only thing better than a chainsword... is two chainswords
>>553254638>just crank up the difficulty bro Is the actual answer. If you’re not playing on Absolute the game is boring ass that’ll put you to sleep. On Absolute you actually have a chance of failing the mission, which puts you on edge and keeps you mentally engaged. Even after 300 hours P425 on every class, I still shit my pants a little when the team is in a rough spot and I hear a ‘Fex roar or a ‘Thrope scream.
>>553258436>'Thrope screamyou mean that little sharting gurgle?
>>553256175Two chainswords.Connected by a chain at the hilts.Chainsword-chucks.
sigh game is boring>holds left mouse button with flame thrower
>Murat Bisembin the actor known for the popular white scars meme has passed. Oct 11 1972 - Jan 8th 2026.
>>553260579I don't think a flamer is a 40k game has been this powerful since Dark Crusade's flamer on the Tau Crisis suit.
I have tried out Heavy and Tactical and Bulwark so far. I really liked Heavy's Plasma-gun always a joy to use weapons like that. Any especially fun weapons for Tactical? Also how do I block/parry proper on Bulwark? Do I hold down the button or just tap it? It felt really weird ngl
>>553263046So, Bulwark's weird in that holding the button enables block stance and letting go of it is what inputs the parry. So you have to do a quick click of your parry key to input it off the negative edge to actually interact with the game. Same rules apply otherwise.
>>553263046>>553263835you will auto perfect parry everything if you spam shield bash
>>553263046Tac’s best weapons are Flamer, Plasma Rifle, and Stalker Bolt Rifle. Heavy Bolt Rifle can be fun just mag-dumping too but it’s not as good as those three.
>>553261192>Cancer and dead at 53Fuck. Instead of investing all that money into meme LLM training which will never achieve AGI because it just can't we could be investing on cancer and cellular level bio research.
>>553264882Cancer is too profitable to ever be cured
>>553264882Even if they achieve AGI and use it to boost other industries because gud AI do thing that makes number go up; big pharma would never use it to cure known diseases because big number go up There will be a sekrit cure only accessible to the billionaire class
>>553263046Tap it like everything else
Is crashing a frequent problem in this game? Just had one after about 3 hours just as an we activated an elevator mid-stage in MP. Game runs perfectly fine otherwise.
>>553267368Very rarely, sometimes the game freezes for like a solid 30 seconds but it recovers if it let it, even playing online.
>>553267991Even when it goes game not responding? I didn't let it hang, but I guess I should have. I'm just so fucking tired of almost every single AAA game these days running like shit and being prone to crashing. The latest update in MHW has basically fucked the whole game since always crashing after a hunt or two. I don't think it's hardware issues on my side, I have more than fine enough specs. Besides that. SM2 honestly seems to run incredibly smooth. I just get quite annoyed when I crash these days due to it becoming so common
>>553267368the only time this game ctd for me was when an update corrupted a file on disk and it would crash everytime i queued decapitation. checking file integrity in steam solved it.
>>553268232Yeah sometimes it hard freezes for me for like 30-45s and if I just let it sit it usually recovers. Probably the only reason I realized it would recover is that I really didn’t want to reset while running a hard weekly with a good team.
>>553259692
>>553268232do you have an i9? i had to underclock mine or else it causes crashed and other instable behaviour>almost every single AAA game these days running like shit and being prone to crashingwelcome to the jeet new world. dont even update windows
>>553272970>Shittel cpuDie.
Hard Reclamation.I'm drinking JD Tennessee Blackberry.;6DMGX
>>553276764Why Reclamation?
AAAAAAAAI don't want to prestige bulwark anymoreeeeeeI want to play sniperrrrrrr
Every time I play Bulwark I completely forget that the charged shield bash existsI think it’s because I played Bulwark for a year before it existed
>>553283334Because I'd already done the weekly and it isn't Chaos. Also, I'm going to sleep.
if i play the campaign again how long am i locked out of multiplayer?
>>553286171You can swap to multiplayer any time you’re on the battle barge IIRC
holy fuck chaos spawn are brutal without block. with block you just need two parries before going to town, but with balanced or fencing you get fucked after gun striking
>>553288829I play fencing and they're not really an issue.
>>553289617do you just roll around until the guy with the flamethrower kills them?
>got tired of playing space marine 2>decided to play boltgun insteadPretty good game
>>553289812No, I just parry their attacks. Even their little dust-sweeping attack to hide their follow-up.
The fist is growing on me. I used to think that it it was bullshit
>>553299170Charge Fists or Heroic light attack fist?
>>553288829Weird. I play block 100% of the time against Nids, but lately I’ve been bringing fencing to Spawn instead of block and I think it’s helpful when there’s like 3-4 of them just spawning a solid wall of hitboxes.
After having started using block i prefer it to balanced for spawn. Adrenaline rush is about the only thing that can actually stop the meatloaf of 5 spawn all swinging at once from overlapping too much shit at once.I gotta start trying block on the other classes now that i'm used to it on assault though
Chapter Name: Lazarus KnightsHomeworld: Galena (Feudal World)Gene-Seed: UnknownSpeciality: Armored Warfare
>>553307242To Infinity and Beyond looking ass
>>553307242>Speciality: Armored WarfareIf you wanna be green and excel in armored warfare go with Aurora Chapter, dude.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aurora_Chapter
It’s always seemed really dumb to me to put Space Marines in a tank or a jet If they’re getting hit by anti-tank or anti-air weapons they’re not that much more survivable than some basic dude, and their talents seem wasted on just driving a vehicle or aiming a gun, any human can do that Seems a total waste of what makes a Space Marine a Space MarineYou know, that’s he’s infantry sized, but heavily armored and armored and maneuverable
>>553314836A Techmarine is the pinnacle of human pilotsFar superior than a Techpriest, a servitor and a generic meatbag human
>>553312746Might as well wait for the iron hands dlc to play as the sons of medusa.
>>553314948Being 25% better is still worse when i can produce a dozen aeronautica pilots for the same cost. Better reaction time is good but even with the WW2 style dogfights that go on its still not that important, resilience against g-forces can be mitigated with some run of the mill cybernetics, and its not like if something does manage to board the jet you're going to have time to fight inbetween piloting.
>>553316564The Hawk Lords came from loyalist ace pilots from the gooner Chapter and are the best Thunderhawk pilots in the Imperium, literally Ace Combat in 40k but now Ultrasmurfs (purple).
>>553316680>and are the best Thunderhawk pilots in the ImperiumBeing better than a bunch of drop pods isn't too impressive a repertoire; thunderhawks are transport craft which are exclusively used by astartes. And it still does nothing to counter what i said, training one marine just to use him as a pilot is a waste when one could train at least double digits of aeronautica pilots for the same price and not have the massive opportunity cost of using heavy infantry for piloting purposes.There are reasons why marines do it but, besides esprit de corps, most of them are not very good ones.
>>553315204Iron Hands are all spergs with daddy issues.
>>553307242>Gene-Seed: Unknownhehehe
update 12 when?
>>553320058in two weeks
>>5533201052 weeks is too long.
>>553320126for you
>>553320330ugh
>>553314948Okay but what about tanks That’s my main issue
>>553314948>abhuman gets killed in an ammo explosion or fire>tank's machine spirit keeps driving it anywaykwab
Fuck I didn't know that when I would prestige a class I would lose all the perks I spent points on, if I knew I wouldn't have bought the perks at all besides the first row.
>>553321752Back in the day, a Heavy Bolter was not able to penetrate AV13 of a Predator tank's front (S5 + D6 to pen).At the same time, a Heavy Bolter could kill a Space Marine. S5 vs T4 wounded on a... 5+ I believe? Then the marine would take his 3+ armour save for a chance to nullify the wound.Dunno how the numbers look nowadays.So, just as today, vehicles are used to protect Space Marines from anti-infantry weapons.
>>553333570as you progress in the game and buy all the guns you will find that requisition caps out extremely fast and it never is an issue again.
>>553334314Yeah I'm sure it'll get better later but for now I've been playing for about a week so I'm broke
>>553291486It's okay. I bought it ages ago on the ps4 and played until I think the final level. Got tired of fighting the same shit.
>>553318521I'll have you know I have mommy issues, not daddy issues. Shut the fuck up.
>>553337178You have a findom mommy dommy? What's her onlyfans?
>>553299836The relic fencing one. I havent got the heroic one yet.
>>553317924What level of delusional head-canon are you on? A space-marine pilot will be leagues above a human equivalent. Not to mention that even if the plane blows up there is a good chance that the marine will just outright survive it.
>>553339694>space-marine3rdie marine wanker?Do go on, what implants and organs in any way meaningfully affect their ability to pilot an aircraft?>Not to mention that even if the plane blows up there is a good chance that the marine will just outright survive itNo. A thunderhawk is a metal box with jets strapped to it anything that downs it and renders it unusable is going to turn a marine into putty.
>>553321752really good tank drivers and fighter pilots, space marines are directly interfaced with their vehicles, and when youre a pilot, your ability to withstand gforce is very important, else you fall unconscious
>>553341328Super-human sense and reaction times and perception all seems quite beneficial for piloting. And just how many times have we seen and read about marines surviving a Thunderhawk crash at this point? It's quite the normal trope >>553341539That's another good point. Marines can withstand way more extreme maneuvers than a human ever could
>>553341328How about the fact that they're jacked into the ship, retard? Read a fucking book.
>>553341539>else you fall unconsciousonly if the blood has somewhere to rush to, cut off some limbs and replace them with cheap cybernetics>sense and reaction times and perception all seems quite beneficial for pilotingNot more useful than having a dozen more flights in formation with you. On the ground marines can make up for their fewer numbers with their durability, in vehicles there's zero reason for those vehicles to be significantly heavier armored than regular imperial equivalents.>survive a thunderhawkAnd how many dozens of unnamed marines and pilots have been creamed in filler crashes designed to establish the threat
>>553342151Faggot we can do that shit now and its not that impressive, it most certainly would not put them above their admech equivalents who likely ARE the plane.
>>553342178>cut off some limbsyou can move the goalpost alll you want, that doesnt change the fact that blood is leaving the skull
>>553342273>we can do that nowNo we can't, retard.Once again, read a fucking book. They are linked to the ship in a way that's indistinguishable from actually being it. They feel every part of the Thunderhawk like it's their own body.
>>553342178>>553342658Jesus fucking Christ, you are retarded. Are you the sort of faggot who only know about lore through fucking meme's or something?
>>553342658>>553343347Sorry bwo didn't mean to reply to your post
>>553334876Just exchange the armory data you don't need for requisition points.
>>553342658If they're still piloting with a joystick and instruments then its no actual, tangible difference from just having a cannon PoV linked to a HUD.>but brooooo they can FEEL the PLANEand i bet it nets them a whopping +1 inch of movement. At no point is "feeling" the metal box on rocket boosters actually worthwhile for the purpose of making a better dogfighter or BVR shooter. Reaction times are valuable but the idea that reaction times are somehow going to level the playing field of a WW2 esq dogfight when they are limited by the craft itself is laughable. G-forces are important but for vertical g-forces a basic pressure suit and some much cheaper implants than gene seed can take care of the worst of it unless you're trying to say that they're just accelerating forward fast enough, mid flight, that it would pulverize the human body by itself which simply doesn't happen when the human body can already tank accelerating hundreds of miles per hour in a second.This is all just nonsensical marine wank, the same as pretending they're the best infantry when they get melee mogged by ogryns, the only fucking reason any marine would be better than an admech equivalent at piloting any vehicle would be sheer long-lived experience. And this still has literally nothing to do with my initial point. I don't give a shit that they're better they're not so much better that they make up for having dozens of additional pilots with a dozen extra missiles per man. Any gun you could strap to an astartes plane or tank you could strap to any other imperial craft.
>>553343912Read a book, nigger. Actually feeling the plane lets them pull of crazy maneuvers with razor thin margins for error. Being able to resist G force isn't just a one time thing either. Sure a human can withstand it once, a dozen times, but can they do it all hundreds of times on the same flight? Can they do it for days on end only stopping for refueling? No. High Gs are taxing physically.I'm glad your dumbass also brought up the experience of the Marines as well. A marine with experience is going to blow a servitor out of the water 10/10 times.
>>552566663>out dps tactical and sniper as bulwarkwhat kind of bots were you playing with. you would've been better off solo
>>553343912You must be the stupidest piece of shit in the entire hobby. It's actually embarrassing how fucking wrong you are. >the same as pretending they're the best infantry when they get melee mogged by ogrynsOh because infantry only engage in fistfights I guess, Let's just forget about how a tactical squad of marines have several venues of engagements, centuries of combat experience. Marines can also get dragged down and killed by hormagaunts, does that mean they are on the level of an Guardsman in your eyes? Also Ogryns are incredibly fucking strong, stronger that the average marine, so if one where to engage them based on raw strength alone, the ogryn could rip them apart, luckily Marines are smart enough to not fucking do that given the choice moron. You don't know shit about 40k and the way you argue proves that without any doubt.
>>553343912You know what. On top of your retardation you are also completely neglecting the separation between the Astra-militarum the Aeronautica Imperialis and the structure of space-marine chapters themselves. Only the space-marines functions as an actual combined arms force due to their independence from the structures put in place to separate most military institutions to avoid anything like Heresy happening again. The Space-marines use their own pilots because they can't fucking rely on the fractured military institutions of the Imperium. And that's still not even taking into account the they are just BETTER at those roles. A space-marine craft can use bigger engines due to the pilots being able to withstand it, therefore their crafts can carry heavier weapons and plating you fucking idiot. An imperial pilot would most like just die trying to pilot a Thunderhawk and maneuvering
>>553333876>5+Other way around, 3+.
>>553342273>we can do that shit nowJust because Musk did that to monkeys (the monkeys did not survive attempting to play Pong) does not mean it's a functional technology right now.
Yes yes, brother against brother. Cousin against cousin. Father against son.
it's absolutely fucking shocking how BAD some players are at this game. How do you reach level 25 as a bulwark and NEVER use your banner?
>>553349395the vast majority of the playerbase is ireedemably pants on head indian iq average retarded and this thread reflects that.
>>553353029Try a Tactical who never used his AuspexIn ReliquaryWith a stationary boss
>>553353326no bully the sm1 anon
>>553349395Indeed, brother. As you said, brother against brother, brother.
>>553353029>NEVER use your bannerThat's my brother right now. Whenever we play these kinds of games he just goes full on unga, zero team-sense at all. It's the same when we played Vermintide and Darktide.He played Kerrilian/Zealot in thosePeople are just universally bad at games that requires you to support you team and stick together. Some of the things I have seen in DT and DRG is maddening
Ready to grab my first Artificer weapon. And I am leaning towards Drogos-Reclamation Beta. Is that a good choice? Eventually I'll get them all but I'm poor as shitAlso In regards to team-roles playing Tactical I guess I am doing Mid-line Duty's sniping elites and keeping gaunt's of the ass of the heavy right?
I’m the original anonI just feel like Marines in a tank, specifically a tank, is a dumb idea Anything that kills the tank is probably going to kill the Marine too unless it’s like a basic mobility killIf you need to protect the Marines on their way to something that’s why you use a Rhino or a Land Raider, those make senseBut a tank? A chapter servitor or a trained chapter serf can do that well enough if the problem is not being able to rely on the Guard and needing armored firepower in a theater without support
>>553362753>But a tank?A space-marine can't fit into a Leman-Russ so naturally people will assume you are talking about Space-marine vehicles, and not normal ones
>>553363026didn't know primarchs were so tight
the mutalith vortex beast is so FUCKING gay
>>553363026>A space-marine can't fit into a Leman-RussTell that to the Space Wolves' Iron Priests and their autoloaders
>>553362114You should level them all. Each one you level gives you a perk point for that weapon type.
>>553362753Space Marines are alone (this is often the case). The enemy is fielding tanks (or equivalents). You need your space marines to kill those tanks. But you don't want your space marines to die too easily. So you put them inside space marine tanks. Sure, your tanks will die. But they won't die as easily as un-tanked space marines would, giving you a greater K:D ratio.Simple.It's the same reason why you don't deploy just swarms of missile-launcher infantry against a tank brigade. That infantry is behind your own tanks as support.
being surrounded by melee major is scary without intimidating aura
>>553371217>npcs standing in a circle just staring at you doing nothing>scarypeak zoomer horror
>>553372210on absolute multiple majoris attack you at the same time, if you hare hit once without stagger immunity you are dead. even then there is a good chance they will layer red attacks on you. with bulwark you just block once then everything is dead in two more hits or so
>>553374207>chainsword assaultkino. i wish i started warhammer 10 years earlier so that i could experience the faction before it was ruined by sales drones
>>553374447yes it is kino
>>553368836>you need your space marines to kill those tanks So just deploy tanks crewed by servitors or Chapter serfs supported by Marines with anti-tank armament? That way the Marines don’t die when the slow tank gets fucking obliterated by a Gargant or a Baneblade cannon or a Tau railgun>wouldn’t the gargant/baneblade/railgun kill the Marines tooNo, their mobility and size is actually better survivability at that point than being in a tank
>>553372569You just use block, PB them twice, then stagger them all instead
Why are you not cancelling to shoulder bash??? Don't you know you are literally wasting your life AND your teammates lives???
>>553379513To clarify my point, I think that the entire point of a Space Marine is to have a guy that’s armored like a tank with the firepower of a tank, without all the drawbacks of a tank like poor mobility and a huge target profile to shoot at So then just sticking a Marine back inside of a tank just feels like it’s defeating the entire purpose of a Marine
>>553379673what does PB mean?
>>553094178>Start hosting your own games thenIs there a way to host a random operation? I have this game since last november and haven't found an option for this. I always join randoms halfway through an operation and I have probably missed countless gene seeds and armory data because they have walked past them earlier.
>>553381673Perfect block
>>553385058oh yeah block is easier than balanced for these situations. but i hate how slow the made block weapons
>>553380536Space Marines may be armored like modern tanks, but they are not armored like tanks in the year 40000. In the grim darkness of the far future, everything is stronger. Space Marines are still just infantry, but scaled up to the year 40000. It's the Guard that's an outlier in how weak an individual trooper is.
Why is the loading so bad in this game? Why does it require loading just for me to alt+f4 out of it lolyes I have it installed on ssd
>>553380536and a predator tank is even more armored and carries even more firepower, whats your point, its like saying tanks are bad because you can just have people carry rpgs and run around, forgetting the fact that ANTI INFANTRY WEAPONS EXIST TO STOP THAT. not to mention you can carry more munitions in a tank for prolonged assaults, or heavier armaments, like the demolisher cannon or missile batteries, on a very fast body
>>553385480I agree with you somewhat. But the difference is, sure tanks are a bit more durable in 40K, but the things shooting at tanks in 40K are orders of magnitude more devastating. In the modern era tanks are getting hit by drones, other tanks, maybe AGMs, and that’s about it. In 40K your tank might be getting shot at by a gun firing shells the size of a bus. I guess at the end of the day, it just looks fucking cool, so I’ll let it slide. 40K isn’t exactly hard sci-fi.
How the fuck is Lorgar even a threat? Just give the fucking loser a wedgie. Fuckwit would probably lose a fight against an Imperial Guardsman. What an embarrassment he must be to Big E.
>>553363026And the point of that is what's the difference. What guns can only be strapped to a hover tank but not a lemun russ such that having the one hover tank who still gets shit on immediately at the opening of battle is somehow better than having 20 lemun russes?Space marines are wasted on doing anything that isn't fucking infantry ops because their finesse despite their resilience matters significantly less when its the craft doing the majority of the lifting. I could crew 2 dozen lemun russes for the training cost of one SM tank except when one of those lemun russes dies on contact theres still 23 more to go around.Land speeders, bikes, rhinos, land raiders, and thunderhawks all make sense because they're simply delivery vehicles for the infantry payload, anything else is a waste.
>>553387705the funniest part is the "loading" happens before the actual loading screen appears. when you see a progress bar everything on your end is already done and you're only waiting for a shitty cheapeast tier amazon server to respond.
>>553387990He’s the writers dedicated jobber for when they need a comically evil ‘Temple of Doom’ style villain who does really evil stuff and then gets his ass kicked
>>553344374I do not fucking careI don't give a singular shit how they're THE BESTEST EVAR There are hundreds of boys wasted just to produce one space marine pilot. A dozen years just to make the marine and then likely a dozen more just to get them air ready. Even if half of would be SM aspirants wash out of the aeronautica that's still more planes in the air.>>553346628>Oh because infantry only engage in fistfights I guessWay to miss the point dipshit. >On top of your retardation you are also completely neglecting the separation between the Astra-militarum the Aeronautica Imperialis and the structure of space-marine chapters themselvesWrong, retard, learn to fucking read. I mentioned esprit de corps earlier and its one of the good reasons to have their own pilots.SM fulfill a distinct battlefield niche as heavy infantry operators and that niche doesn't exist in vehicles; it becomes men in planes vs better man in plane instead of man-sized target with the power of a light armored vehicle vs man with rifle.>You don't know shit about 40kNice projection, wank marines more because you watched one youtuber talk about how they spit acid and can eat brains and move between eye blinks.
>>553390414Hundreds of boys "wasted" in an Imperium with trillions of boys is a pretty low price to pay. In fact, nonexistent. A singular Space Marine can save worlds. Maybe if you stopped trying to apply logic in the face of the Imperium, you could stop sperging out. Have you thought maybe the Chapter considers Thunderhawks to be holy like their bolters and armor? That they wouldn't allow a mere serf or servitor to fly one, not only because they couldn't fly it with half the skill of a Marine, but they couldn't do so for nearly as long? A Marine can fight for days non stop, sleep for 3 hours, and do it all over again for months on end. And yes, dumb faggot, they are THE BESTEST EVAR. That doesn't detract from the heroism and skill of the Aeronautica.
>>553387990He's the "Our primarch fucked up because of this faggot" threat that nobody actually takes seriously. The end result is meaningless when Angron, Mortarion, and Magnus all get major things and he's just off in the corner implied to be traveling around making chaos cults in Nihilus>>553391179>A Marine can fight for days non stop, sleep for 3 hours, and do it all over again for months on endIf you want to be extra pissy, you could point out how they can shut down literally an entire half of their brain and still operate better than an actual person. Squad of Crimson Fists went for almost 14 days without sleeping during the fighting on Rynn's World for example
>>553391179>Hundreds of boys "wasted" in an Imperium with trillions of boys is a pretty low price to payNot when they are the actual best of the best candidates possible and a solid half of them are going to die to an ambull or some shi.>thunderhawkIs fine. Infil and exfil are important enough tasks and one pilot can be running for multiple operations at once. Jet fighters for the cruisers is a different story
Good evening, BRUTHAS! DECIMUS HERE! LIIIIIVE FROM THE KITCHENARIUM!Here is the second attempt at TONKATSU! After taking the advice of a BRUTHA, we have topped the MEAT and RICE with sauce! Though it is not curry. It is instead "Creamy Butter Chicken" sauce. I had to stretch it with water and add flour to it to re thicken it. A side of GREEN BEANS per my GRANDFATHER'S recommendation. THE OPERATION WAS A RESOUNDING SUCCESS!!! 10/10!!! Ah, if only my GRANDMOTHER was around to see it. Rest well at the Emperor's side. NEVERTHELESS! I look forward to more experiments with the BLADE!DECIMUS OUT!
>>553391808>Best of the bestThey're kids who show potential. They could just as easily become nobodies or just die due to Guard/Munitorum bullshit.
>>553392134iron hand anon you are drunk.
>>553392134Looks good brother, admirable versatility in making the sauce as you did despite sub-optimal conditions
>>553392134CHICKEN IN! CHICKEN OUT!Speaking of food. Anyone got that screenshot of Battle-barge mini "event" where Smurfs are taking their meals from a giant pot below the (landing) deck?
>>553392134I thought tonkatsu was a pork cutlet breaded with panko and then fried.
Why do Saber keep saying we can't have any firstborn gear in the game? I mean sure it's Gee Dubs being usual cunts behind the scenes, but aren't there firstborn pieces already in the game?
>>553393310It is. You need to flour it, then dip it in blended eggs, before then adding the crumbs. I also found that letting them sit for a couple minutes before adding them to the pan makes the breading stick far better.
>>553392532HA! Not yet :^}
>>553393395It's literally GW anything that doesn't have to do with gameplay is basically determined by them
>>553393395GW are always fuckwits when it comes to their IP. It's like they are pathologically allergic to anything that isn't their precious plastic.>Why do Saber keep saying we can't have any firstborn gear in the game?If I'm not mistaken, and I very well could be, there are some firstborn gear pieces. I can't be bothered to boot up the game rn, but someone might correct me on this.
>>553393395Games Workshop is British. That should explain every retarded thing that happens that isn't tied to Saber being Russian>but aren't there firstborn pieces already in the game?There's a few technically, but "upgraded and retooled for Primaris™ Marine®"
>>553396907jfc, look at it>IP holder is British>Dev studio is RussianI don't know if it's Divine justice or some fucking fate's irony there
>>553397117The old enemies of the Great Game now stand side by side to fuck over people who want to customize their dudes
>>553389681I don't believe it's actual servers and not other people's machines. You can literally see the IPs of your teammates in your logs if you were a host.
>trying to do weekly hard stratagem>2 failed attempts>over an hour of connection failures, afk hosts in the hangar, the game not starting the mission and so onI pray to the Emperor on Holy Terra that Saber overhauls the entire mission select system in SM3
there is no better feeling than an assault squadmate groundpounding the niggers attacking you or a bulwark heal flagging you when shit hits the fan
>>553405372I feel your pain broi've been trying to run few quick decapitation missions to get my bulwark to prestige 3 and none of these console kids can get to the bomb part without dying
>>553406354People aren’t ready for this conversation, but taking other banner perks than healbanner let you have it up more than twice as frequently and prevents a ton of damage that you would have needed to heal. Especially if you have a Vanguard with heal on Extremis.
>hurr durr, muh clipping issuesFuck Saber.
>>553387990>Fuckwit would probably lose a fight against an Imperial GuardsmanHe got blasted in the face point blank with a titan plasma canon and tanked it, before he got a demonic powerup. Loregar wouldn't die easily no matter who he's up against.
>>553409038Iirc it was actually 2 blasts, a 3 nearly killed him, and the Titan princeps went in to stomp on him instead of waiting for his guns to recharge.
>>553409038How is that even explained?
>>553411778He put up a psychic shield. With the start of the Heresy, he began to awaken his powers with them coming into full being in his fight with Corvus on Istvaan 5, giving him flaming wings and a halo. (He got his ass beat directly after this awakening). He grew more powerful as time went on, allowing him to basically use the force or, a less gay comparison, the Diclonius powers from Elfen Lied. As he was digging Angron out of the ground using his telepathy, he was in a crater. Any marine or human that tried to get close was instantly crushed into paste as if stepped on by a Warlord Titan. Lorgar, lorewise, should be second only to Magnus IF THAT. His psychic power is incredible.
>>553412158>Any marine or human that tried to get close was instantly crushed into paste as if stepped on by a Warlord Titan.The funniest part is that even non-Primarch marines survived that exact thing in the HH books
>>553412413I remember in Know No Fear, a Marine gets stepped on by a giant Samus. Has anyone else been crushed like that and lived? The Marines in Betrayer killed by Lorgar were splattered like flies.
>>553392134based black guy cook
>>553392134Your katsu looks better than mine. Mine was chicken but regardless, did you knead the panko in after you applied it? I think that’s what I’ve been doing wrong.
>>553407928I'd rather have that than them spamming frags at my feet while i'm trying to fight some majorisSo sick of it, how the fuck is someone so scared of 2 chaos spawn that you just outright fuck me up instead
>>553405372If you haven't beat it just post codes
Tactical bump, deployed.
I'm a console chad and just started on this game. Liking it so far it's like world war z but better.At first I was just doing executions nonstop but after a while I was trying to git gud. I'm using Block melee and trying to learn the timing although I fucking hate that beefy tentacle fucker that delays his attack like Elden Ring bossesIdk anything about Warhammer but hoping to git gud. Any vids or yters to watch?
>>553435140Everyone shills FirstTourGuardsman here and he apparently can true solo Absolute, so that’s way more than most people can do
I just started, PvP is so quick I'm doing it for now just to unlock cosmetics. Should I play operations to get unlocks or just go for siege?I know somebody is going to say just play le game! But I wanna unlock most stuff quick so I can have fun
>>553436194Normal siege 1-5 for unlocks, prestiging and maxing out all the guns and getting cosmeticsRinse and repeat until all classes are level 25 prestige 4 with maxed out relic weapons + heroics
I have no clue why but ballistic engine has become my comfort operation. Like with the others I struggle to solo with the bots on absolute but with op6 I just have a good old time no matter what. Probably because its objectives are pretty lax in comparison to other ops
>>553436194>so I can have funyou are not going to have fun. there's nothing to do in the game other than grinding. by the time you unlock everything you will already be bored of doing the same thing over and over again and will quit playing until saber adds a new shiny thing to grind for. take your time and enjoy the journey because there's absolutely nothing waiting for you at the end.
>>553437683This is my favorite op too. Something about it being the most straightforward without egregious objectives makes it the nicest mission to work with, as you said. And the mechanics in it weren't made by RPG/Sekiro masochist. Overall a very solid operation.
>>553436194Regarding the fun factor. It comes mostly from playing with your lads or people that you know. As >>553437720 said, there's no real endgame really. Siege/Horde mode was supposed to fill that role, but Saber are too inept to make it into a fraction of what Exterminatus mode was in SM1 (look it up on YT). I can only say you should do everything at your own pace. Don't rush the content.
>>553436194Read as many guides as you can and spend as little time playing as possible
>>553439712>spend as little time playing as possiblethat's actually solid advice. the less you play the less egregious you find average players behaviour and you abandon lobbies less often. you might not remember the current meta for other classes so you don't stress over other people's inane builds. you don't mind others dying to missed parries because you do too. hell i might have been playing this game wrong and casual console players with unmuted mics were in the right all along.
>>553437683>simple op>no scripted boss fight so no massive choke point at the end that you need to like the mechanics of to enjoy the mission>tyranids>two puzzles that are well set up so that the difficulty is dealing with enemies while also doing the tasks rather than the tasks themselves being frustrating>no gimmicks>tyranids>no massive irregularities in map layout that can make playing certain builds unfun (e.g. the giant open spaces of exfiltration where ranged nids can snipe you for chip damage forever) meaning every class can participate in the way they were intended to all the way through>tyranidsIt makes senseThe only other missions that compete for fun factor in my opinion are decapitation, exfiltration, and reclamation, but all of them fail one or more points above.
Well, that's enough of that
>>553445358Reclamation is well paced, really feels like you're pushing forward until the fucking lightning floor>>553445458>tfw surgical strikeWith how early you were parrying i presume you're balanced? You gotta treat balanced like its block and parry just in time.
>>553445596Yeah it's balanced, I don't know whether it was surgical strike or just this rogue Ravener because he went on to murder the Vanguard too. The Bulwark left and when the bot picked me up I wasn't taking any chances and pounded his ass.
>Fighting final boss of mission>getting swarmed by minoris>swap to my melta on my combi melta to take out horde>teammate places melta directly in front of me as I shoot>die instantly Very cool thanks
Why are most of the stratagems lately against chaos, or both factions will spawn?I don't even feel like logging in anymore.
>>553419636I watched a video where a woman makes checkered cuts across both sides of the meat before breading it. I think it helps it better adhere to the pieces. You Make sure you flour the meat nicely, then when you dip it into egg, try not to pinch it lest you smush some of the flower off. Then when you coat it in the Panko, let it sit for like 3 to 5 minutes before you add it to the oil.
is assault just not viable on harder difficulties or what? I was having a blast with chainsword assault up to ruthless but lethal is just wrecking my anus
>>553466596oh boy, here we go
>>553467768nta, but I just tried my first game as one. And it honestly felt pretty underwhelming. It doesn't even have an improved dodge due to the jet-pack
>>553466596I haven't run Chainsword on assault in basically a year. I exclusively play Power Fist or Thunder Hammer with him.I haven't checked if the power sword particle effects have been fixed but it was annoying enough for me to not use it on him after he got it.
What are the best or most fun weapons to use as a heavy? Heavy Bolt rifle feels a bit out of place since Tactical has it too, haven't tried it though
>>553469493I actually really enjoy HBR on Heavy because it gives him some solid pinpoint range and mobility, which admittedly does feel like it defeats the point, but running HBR+Inferno Pistol is one of my standby loadouts when I get tired of running Heavy Plasma. I'm still deciding between Pyrecannon and Multimelta for the third slot since they do different things at the same range but both are quite fun.Take what I say with a ton of salt though, I'm somewhat new and fucking hate the Heavy Bolter.
>>553466596Chainsword is what you pick when you don't have access to power weapons
>>553469493I like my plasma cannon.
>>553466596Every class, including assault, is "viable" on every difficulty. And I have completed every mission on Absolute and hard strats and hard siege with every class. But yes, assault is the weakest of them all, since it's a very feast or famine class, as you rely on getting kills to recharge your shit.
>>553468398I was told the thunder hammer sucks cuz it's too slow. Maybe I should work on leveling the power fist
>>553476250The Thunder Hammer absolutely still has an issue dealing with contested HP and needing to commit to attacks but the Heroic Thunder Hammer softens that problem by dealing constant AOE damage with its shock field effect so you don't have to worry as much about a horde of minoris swarms chipping away at your health in the middle of your attack animations.The regular power fist was absurdly good at damage output but it was exclusively used for charged attacks and that needed preemptive charging to open up a fight. The Heroic Fist proves light attacks can still be useful if they had a 200% damage mark-up, but it's fun on Assault because you can keep pinging majoris enemies with gunstrikes boosted by your third team perk.
>>553466596he is not viable without the invincibility on ground pound prestige perk
>>553476695both thunder hammer and power fist one shot minoris with the sprint attack when you have the 100% sprint attack damage perk and 50% sprint attack weapon perk
>>553469493HBR is a fucking meme pick they added to be tabletop-accurate to the models, you’re just a worst Tactical with it and actively sandbagging your team on higher difficulties if you bring it. Heroic Heavy Plasma or regular Heavy Plasma are Heavy’s best weapons. Heavy Bolter, Multi-Melta, and Pyrecannon are all good in their own way, just not as good as the plasma. Heavy Bolter has great boss DPS but only hits one target at a time and you have to hit heads to do damage. Multi-melta has relatively low damage, but great chap recovery and since all your damage is in a single shot it feels more mobile since you can sprint-fire-sprint-fire, etc. Pyreblaster has great damage but shorter range and you usually just want to set stuff on fire and then melee (lol) or use your sidearm on whatever’s burning.
>>553478896How do you use the Heavy Bolter right? I started using the HBR to click heads and not die but I eat shit constantly using the green HB in Ruthless which may be the problem. I'm about to just have one loadout be Relic Heavy Plasma and another with the Heroic one, but I'm a stubborn enough idiot to give the Heavy Bolter.another shot.
>>553476250thammer doesn't need to be fast because of hyper armour. adrenaline surge stuns enemies even with light attacks, just follow a light with a heavy.
>>553479362>using the green HB in Ruthless which may be the problem.yeah, don't do that with any weapon lol.
What is the worst chapter? And why is it the Raven-Guard? Easily the most boring of the original chapters. Worst primarch too. Did they even accomplish anything besides getting annihilated, and the moping around in the shadows crying? Second choice would the the Iron-hands. Decent primarch, but biggest retard legion of them all
>>553479362Grey and Green weapons shouldn't be used on any difficulty outside the lowest>>553469493HBR on Heavy is what you pick when you're actively throwing the game to piss off whoever the matchmaking forced you with or are have literally just bought the game and don't know anything
>>553480027>>553481497Well, shit. I guess I am retarded then. I was trying to level the HB in the normal dailies and we nearly wiped several times over it. How the hell are you supposed to level fresh weapons or recover from a prestige then? Just the Siege 1-5? I just got Tac and Heavy to P1 yesterday and it's been a special kind of pain.
>>553482262>How the hell are you supposed to level fresh weaponsby sticking to the recommended threat level? now with being able to convert green armory data to purple and above it's easier than ever.alternatively post a code and have someone carry you.>or recover from a prestige thenyou should have all-relic gear on your character before prestiging the first time.
>>553482262Play regular substantial until you get purple tier, then you can do ruthless/lethal(maybe lethal, I don’t know how good you are)
>>553482262>>553483081Also you should at least get a team perk before playing on an underleveled prestige character
>>553482262If you're leveling BOTH prestige and weapons, you have absolutely no right to dump all of the work on whoever you queue with
>>553395709All the shit in the game's primarisified.Including all the armor that says it's MK6 or MK7.
>>553483908is there even a distinction between primaris and non-primaris in 10th ed lore anymore?
What would be considered a good starting point for doing Siege normal? Artificer gear?
>>553483031>>553483081>>553483220>You must have at least two years of SM2 experience to play Absolute, please understand.Yeah nah, I get it. Thanks for the ettiquete know how at least. It's goddamn stupid that prestiging not only sets your level back to 1 but also deletes your perk progress AND forces you to re-buy all of them. As for the green weapons some I just haven't touched like the Heavy Bolter so it's not even at the purple tier yet. I can't just buy and master each variant I gotta put the mandated time in. At least Tac's first team perk is one of the best in the game.
>>553484475YesQuit after wave 5 and then keep repeatingGrinding normal 1-5 siege is much more efficient than doing normal Ruthless+ operations
>>553484851Thanks bro
>>553484846>Yeah nah, I get itfeel free to play your way. just for the love of god, when the game says you got a mortal wound and you can see a skull icon instead of a helix to the left of your healthbar, use medkits to overheal yourself and clear it
Green weapons are perfectly fine on Ruthless if you’re halfway good at the game
>>553486949Yeah I personally went Substantial for Grey Weapons and just switched to Ruthless as soon as I hit Green.
>>553486050Yeah, I try to. Though, that brings up a good question. Is it better to sit on 2 stims to clear a wound guarunteed if you go down, or use them to heal to full if you're below 30% HP? Had two different runs last night where I kept pinging a Heavy to clear his wound on Decapitation but wouldn't pick up the stims I was pinging despite his 100% heal on res perk saving me and the vanguard and he died off during the tyrant fight, and another game on reclamation where I was saving my stims and me and the bulwark nearly wiped because I figured I'd get ressed and could clear the wound with the stims in my pocket and the bulwark needed to burn his guardian relic to save me and the run when the last prime was low.
>>553479362Heavy Bolter is good, just not great. Just hold down the trigger on heads and only stop firing to parry incoming melee attacks. One big issue I’ve heard PC players have, if you have sight in/ sight out set to a fucking toggle or mouse wheel, rebind that shit immediately.
>>553486949>if you’re halfway good at the gameOxymoronNewbs are never halfway good at the game because well they're newbsUsing green guns on Ruthless is awful even for the stronger ones, a complete waste of time when they could just spam Substantial until they get their first gold weapon
>>553487230Most people playing this game are retarded and don’t know how to clear wounds It’s not some 200 IQ play on their part, just a large percentage of this playerbase, especially those playing on Ruthless or below, are braindead gamerdads or normies
>>553484846Absolute was the hardest content in the game(hard strats increased enemy power even more than absolute in addition to the bullshit the effects add), I would avoid it unless you are using all relic gear with a level 25 character(you can play it under level 25 so long as you have all relic gear and at least a full perk loadout, but it is hard), it is unironically pretty difficult content that was designed with a maxed out character in mind.
Newfags who bought this game on sale need to understand that Absolute when it first showed up was hard but was eventually overcome and became actually comfy.The update to Absolute months ago where it added more enraged enemies, Extremis spawns and possible double boss/Terminus enemies made the difficulty dogshit for grinding and made it uncomfy.
>>553487825What's up with that?Who the fuck asked for this? Why didn't they just make a new game mode and call it "Le prepare to die Xd mode for huge faggots who are le hardcore!"I fucking hate nolifers wanting to be stressed 24/7 hurry up and die already
>>553488162The main game devs are Russian who are pretty public about not wanting the players to beat "their" maps very easilySM2's audience are 40kfags and difficulty/FROMslopfagsIt's also the main reason why three kinds of melee instead of just one, with one melee type being buffed to the high heavens thanks to the latter fagbase
>>553488162It is paradoxically the most autistic no-lifers and whales that keep niche games like this alive. Devs know they have to keep engagement up or the money stops flowing because no one and their mother is gonna give two shits about looking super special if no one else can see them. Like, fuck's sake Planetside 2 is still getting updates and that game has only gotten cosmetic pack updates as far as I know.
>>553488162Absolute isn't stressful most of the time, the other difficulties are too easy to be interesting at this point.And they didn't add yet another difficulty because they've already fucked up splitting the community like they haveAdd in dumbass ruskie ego (despite being unable to beat their own game on its hardest difficulties) and you get current absolute
>>553488162Absolute was supposed to be the "Le prepare to die Xd mode for huge faggots who are le hardcore!", at launch ruthless was the hardest content, and people said it was too easy(ignoring all the bugs and assorted wack weapon stats/perks), and then they added lethal which people still said was too easy. So I understand why they made absolute hard as balls, it’s supposed to be the hardest content. What I don’t get is why hard strats have even more difficulty bumps from absolute on top of the modifiers they saddle you with.
>>553487230>Is it better to sit on 2 stims to clear a wound guarunteed if you go down, or use them to heal to full if you're below 30% HPI'd rather hoard stims to clear a potential wound. Maybe use one stim if the situation is getting out of hand? I try not to heal to over 50% unless I have a surplus of medkits. See, one of the mechanics that's never explained in game is that you get damage resistance proportional to the remaining health. that's why you can fend off waves and waves of enemies while clinging to the last slither of health. besides making your monkey brain feel good this also means that the top 50% of the healthbar is going to be lost to a single heavy attack you and is basically a waste of stim unless you have a mortal wound to clear.
>>553480368Fire Hawks were the worst. Fortunately, their stupidity got them all killed.Sons of Medusa have the same tardraging baby energy, but aren't as stupid.
>>553489082>One of tbe mechanics that's never explained>One of the mechanics>ONEAnon the amount of shit I have had to learn via word of mouth and by accident in this game would make any goddamn soulstuber wet their pants with the amount of misinformation they could spread off of it. The only sources for ANY info about SM2 at all are r*ddit, this general, and the fucking fandom wiki that is SO goddamn shit and out of date that you're better off praying to the omnissiah and hoping that your power sword can keep doing that neat spin move that happens every once in a while.But no, seriously. It boggles my mind that this game came out only a year ago and there is zero concrete info on how anything works and the only way to test or practice anything is in actual matches.It took two games of mashing buttons in different ways to figure out how the input to the power axe's parry attack worked after being told it was even a thing because the game tells you it's an infinity chaining fast weapon when you always wanna go for parries on it. I get obfuscating the numbers to make players seethe and test things on their own, but like... extra trials for each piece of kit would be better than the nothing we have now.
they need to unify all melee types and change them up in the campaignno more balanced, fencing and blockbalanced damage and cleavefencing speed and parry timingsblock adrenaline surgepress [c] to parryhold [c] to blockparries don't give adrenaline surge charges, only blocking doesblock doesn't give gunstrikes, only parrying doesbulwark with a shield will get adrenaline surges after tanking certain thresholds of damage, allowing them to keep blowing up hordes with mass aoe
>>553490738>The only sources for ANY info about SM2 at all are r*ddit, this general, and the fucking fandom wikiEverything is in the patchnotes. You can just read every release notes post on steam and if you don't go insane by the end you will understand everything about the game. I'm jesting ob but by all means do read patch notes from now on.
>>553487825Absolute is still comfy if you’re not bad Hard Strats are where you go to feel uncomfy now
>>553491527Figures. I was going insane looking for any concrete info at all and the Steam guides sure as shit weren't helpful either. It has been nice talking about videogames instead of lurking though, so thanks for that.
>>553490738>mashing buttons in different ways to figure out how the input to the power axe's parry attack workedActually, you can see that in the... arena? Enter, press esc and you will see a guide on basic combos with the weapon you have equipped.Of course, you can't really practice there, because the game equips you with a pvp version of your weapon when you enter, so it will behave a bit differently, but still.
I genuinely think this has to be the longest period we have gone without any new contentalso i finally started painting my Iron Hands redemptor dreadnought.
Yes I understand that they added more difficulties to the game for the 1% But didn't they fuck up by making every other difficulty tougher than it was? If a premade team of 3 kinda okayish players can they realiably beat the hardest content and collect rewards or is it endless pain it wasn't worth it type of challengeSiege is fun, strategems or whatever that game mode with curses is fucking gay that discourages certain classes based on what it has
>>553495950>But didn't they fuck up by making every other difficulty tougher than it was?They didThe fanbase was literally divided over the 99% and the 1% that Saber listened
Black Templars are literally the Niggers of Space Marines
>>553495950Absolute was unironically easy before the Terminus change, and I don’t know about you but I don’t think I should have a 95% clear rate on the hardest difficulty the game offers while Prestige grinding my characters and playing a P2, level 0 class with no team perk But I did at the time The Terminus changes to Absolute has made it so that I only win about 80-85% of my games, and that’s just fine with me, I need some possibility that I can fail or it doesn’t engage me
>>553501532my problem with absolute is it has to be this way because some of the weapons are so overpowered its impossible to lose when you use them. i cant be a bog standard primaris marine with an auto bolt rifle on absolute
Wtf is going on with the inferno daily, I'm losing all my health from fucking nowhere and nothing's even hitting me
>>553504158Termination, rather
>>553501532Yeah, but I hate losing because of dumb shit like getting frame trapped. I'm sure we've all had moments where you get double teamed by 2 Lictors doing their flail combo while being shredded by Neurothrope lightning at the same time. The game has so many scenarios where you literally just can't win.
>no ranged damage modifier>500 neurothrope spawnsWhat the fuck is wrong with these people
>>553505561Fist them
>>553506649
>>553506757It's usually the first minute of waiting for the thing to come down that usually annoys me the most about fighting a neuro.If I'm a melee class then I try to prioritize some annoying ranged terminus enemies first but then sometimes I stray too far and then the barrier attack gets initiated out of my view and I have to try and time my dodges when the visual indicator for the attack becomes even harder to see.
needs a modifier that lets players play same classesneeds a modifier that removes all minoris, majoris and extremis enemies but instead replaces them with terminus ones (1-2 per section with a 120 second cooldown for every kill; boss enemies still remain)needs a modifier that removes certain classes of enemies and just spams one of them (aka only minoris, only majoris, only extremis spam)needs a modifier where guardsman sniper shots and spore bombs/mines are instant kill but respawn time is cut by 75%needs a modifier where only bolt weapons are allowedneeds a modifier where only one kind of enemy appears but there are a fuckton of them (randomized per game, you can luck out getting spammed by gants/gaunts/guardsmen or you get terminators/lictors)
Good Evening!
>>553513974I love WB. Can't believe they got shafted in the fucking Ultramarines game.
>>553514520I mean getting shafted by the Ultramarines is historically what they’re best at The only one that gets fucked harder by Guilliman is Yvraine
>>553515128How's Calth?
>>553515818Fine. How’s Lorgar’s asshole?
>>553516252@Grok put Lorgar in a bib and give him a binky
i made the howing griffons too!
>>553516252>>553516595no love for the best Primarch?
III Legion
>>553515818Guilliman during Calth was such a fucking monster dude, holy shit.
Melee types should be>Fencing = moderate damage, moderate to SLOW attack speed>Balanced = moderate damage, FASTEST attack speed>Block = high damage, moderate attack speedMost balancing problems occur when you try to adjust more than one or two values at the same time, and the defense style already counts as one.
Hey guys here’s my game redesign ideas >melee weapons should either be peepee or poopoo, not peepeepoopooWhat do you think?
>>553518996true, but i liked Aeonid Thiel the best
What is this? Shitter hours?
19 tries later, I beat absolute solo, and mostly out of luck that I got two neurothropes as a sniper. How the fuck does anyone do this repeatedly for fun? Past a point there's just no winning strategy whatsoever against being staggered to death or staggered + being shot.
>>553518012Imagine if we had a Great Crusade era game where we could play as any of the Legions. Make up some major campaign.
I am prestige 3 with bulwark and am not enjoying it, how do I get gud with this class?I spam headshots with heavy pistol then go in for a few melee strikes but the melee attacks just don't seem like they hit hard at all. For reference I've been using the xenophase blade and my attacks feel like mosquito bites.Assault with the thunder hammer is much more satisfying.
>>553525505Doing it often enough that you winrate goes from 1/19 to like 1/3 Like getting good at anything in life, repetition >>553526994Are you doing anything other than spamming Power Rake or Power Whirl? That’s probably why
>>553526994>attacks feel like mosquito bitesDid you even read what the xenophase blade is good for? It has a 20% wider and more damaging power rake. Every melee weapon in this game barring the Heroic Power Fist has pitiful light attack damage. Proper power sword usage is using power rake with Overcharge prestige talent + 50% more Power Rake damage from the weapon talents. It's either the Rake or the Power Whirl to absolutely wipe everything around you.
>>553526994As a Bulwark you should AoEmaxxxxIgnore the power sword + shield, go for the Heroic Thunderhammer, shock AoE and Intimidating Aura
>>553525505Solo with bots or true solo?
>>553526994>melee attacksThe only reason you use melee at all is to bait enemies into hitting you so you can parry and IA them to death
>>553526994
>>553532986
>>553526994intimidating aura and overcharge
>>553532986this was just befor
how do you do, fellow space marine?
May need 2 for the hard stratagem
>>553538428WhyIts just Obelisk
>>553538428Its not that bad unless you're only getting chaff teammates now. Hell, the darkness barely matters for half the mission
>Try pvp for the first time>Casual matches have fun going toe to toe with equal skill team, come close at least win or lose>after 4 hours of playing suddenly the latency gets fuckhuge>team is often leaving and quitting leave me and 2 others to fight imbalanced metafags using flavor of the month loadoutIs it chinese hours or something? Fucking gay pvp hours right now. Im stopping here
>>553538697I did it I just couldn't find anyone in the matchmaking, truly depressing since I had cross-play enabled.I wish they would just remove all the retardedly playlists since the playerbase is so dead right now.
>>553542989Oh, yeah, that'll do itWhile dividing the playerbase is shit it is also 3am on a monday morning, you picked probably the worst time to find other players on a niche game mode of a niche game
>>553542989What region? NA West, I usually have no trouble finding players, even at 2AM It might be like 2-3 minutes of running solo until someone joins but they always do
wake up, space marine.
>>553554793you've got a hive fleet to burn
>>552562759So I just got the game and I'm having fun with the campaign, but I don't understand something: mods.Can you install mods to the game? I see there's EasyAnticheat enabled, won't that cause problems?Please help me understand, thanks.
>>553539983play during regular na hours
I love playing Tactical, and I love Plasma weapons. But fuck me I am tired of of my team running right in front of me and sending a fully charged shot into their skulls. I get that it's hard to avoid stepping in front of each other but still lol. Also Siege is quite fun and I feel like Tactical really shines there. My damage has been very good, just focusing on blasting elites most of the time
>>553557559>Can you install mods to the gameyes, you can. the game doesn't let you use matchmaking or crossplay while they are installed but private lobbies work. the most popular one, astartes mod, has a dedicated discord where people post codes to play together.>there's EasyAnticheat enabled, won't that cause problems?can't answer that, I only play vanilla but I believe you're supposed to use a mod manager that saves your progress before installing a mod and restores it afterwards.
>>553555760make haste and charge.
Are most people just allergic to swapping to their side-arm and blasting ranged mobs?
>>553566718why do you think that?
>>553566816New player and still in lower difficulties. But the amount of players I see just fighting the small fuckers while a literal horde is gunning them down is annoying. Zoanthropes just get to fly around unmolested and I am the only one trying to gun them down. I just feel like a charged blast or two from a plasma pistol could help quite a bit
>>553567483Also, don't get me wrong. There is still a lot for me to learn, and I don't doubt I make stupid decisions myself. I just think it's the lack of general Team-sense that annoy me. It's a pattern I have seen in all Cooperative games I play like DT/DRG where people tend to just do their own thing, and forget about watching each others back
>>553567483oh, that's what you mean. it's because ranged enemies will shoot you less often while you're actively fighting in melee. another counterintuitive thing - they will not shoot you if you turn you back on them. this also apply to most melee attacks. enjoy space marine 2!
>>553567483a new player? inconceivable!
>>553559980No
we have dreadnoughts in our midst...
What's your verdict on the power axe? I prefer the fluid and circular movement of it over any other melee weapons. Especially the power sword seems to be quite jerky in comparison. Only that the power axe doesn't have a heavy attack against singular targets irks me a bit. >>553146440>"anything where you hold the melee button instead of just tapping it"Does that apply to the whirl attack of the power axe as well?
>>553573269kind of bothers me too that it lacks those heavy attacks for being an axe
I have no clue how I have a 100 hours in the game yet I've not touched the story more than necessary to unlock the multiplayer modes
14 Jan: ReliquaryYou Only Live Once - You do not respawn after deathSuspicious Behaviour - Friendly fire Damage from firearms and explosives is enabledSharpshooter - Ranged damage at greater than 10 metres is increased by 75%21 Jan: Ballistic EngineCorrosion - Damage received is continuously increased with Mission duration up to a limitAtrophy - You can't die by being Incapacitated, but every Incapacitation will decrease your maximum Health by 25% (limited to 10% of its original value)Unshaken - You do not lose control upon taking Heavy Hits, and you cannot be knocked backCome Prepared - No Medicae Stimms are available, but every Squad Member starts the Mission with 10 stimms28 Jan: InfernoClose In - Ranged Damage is greatly reduced, but Melee Damage is increasedPress the Attack - Not performing a finisher for 20 seconds will start draining your Health down to 30%, but finishers restore HealthUnshaken - You do not lose control upon taking Heavy Hits, and you cannot be knocked backBuffed Enemies - Enemies have increased Health and Damage
>>553573897you're missing out.
>>553574212and that's a wrap.
have a nice day marines
>>553573269I do like the power stance on parry/block but I feel like its heavy attacks doing less damage than other heavy attacks make it the most reliant on parry/block among the weapons to deal meaningful damage.Because said heavy attacks, dealing with mobs is really annoying.
>>553573693Yeah but the button that triggers a heavy attack (for example on the power sword) is already taken up by the whirl of the axe - and this whirl is excellent for minors imo. It seems that the sprint attack of the axe is the closest to a traditional heavy attack against singular targets.
>>553579669>and this whirl is excellent for minors imoReally? This shit does nothing for me
>>553578125I think that the regular attacks are also good against minores but the "heavy" whirl attack of the axe just takes the cake.>make it the most reliant on parry/block among the weapons to deal meaningful damage.Intimidating Aura ftw
>>553579825Well I only play on substantial and ruthless. There it works just fine.
>>553573897Same. Its funny because I don't even have friends to play with or do organized groups so its all randos and solo with the bots
>>553580010If I'm playing Bulwark I prefer the power sword still because Power Whirl heavily damages most things and wipes minoris enemies.>heavy axe whirlI get minoris enemies primed for gunstrikes when I'm just trying to wipe them out completely like a chainsword stomp or power sword whirl. A power axe shouldn't feel like a heavy knife swing imo.
>>553573269sprint attack, light attack, heavy attack, light attack is the only combo i use
>>553579825I consistently play Absolute and power whirl fucking DELETES mobs around you. Do you just not have your power sword maxed?
>>553581590If the power axe's attack leaves it at the left side of your body then you're going to do the vertical twirl as the next light attack so I always alternate a regular axe swing into the heavy horizontal spin and repeat.
>>553581592>Do you just not have your power sword maxed?We were talking about the axe.
>>553582194Shit my bad.I don't particularly like the heavy attacks on the power axe. The parry/block wave is strong but everything else feels pretty weak.Wave > Overhead Strike > Gunstrike will usually fuck most things up but anything beyond that is pretty weak. If a ranged warrior doesn't swing back against me wailing against it then it feels like goddamn forever to get it incapacitated.
New Battle-barge is ready, Brothers:>>553583263>>553583263>>553583263
>>553581729the vertical twirl is the last light attack in the combo which benefits from the +25% damage perk
>>553583972There's the double vertical twirl with two hits which is the 2nd light attack string and there's the last overhead swing that's the actual strong one iirc.
>>553574212>Suspicious BehaviorTime to dust off the Hydra Heads.
>>553513834>needs a modifier where only bolt weapons are allowed>get this on Vortex
